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Conference back40::soapbox

Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
Notice:No more new notes
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUEONS
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:862
Total number of notes:339684

643.0. "Adding Insult To Injury" by DYPSS1::COGHILL (Steve Coghill, Luke 14:28) Tue Jan 30 1996 19:07

   Do you have any examples of people adding insult to injury?  The
   following happened last week here in Ohio.  Some think that it was
   cruel.  But what was the losing coach to do---throw in the towel? 
   What was the winning coach to do---mercifully shoot the opponents in
   the head?
   
   Last week the Findlay, Ohio junior-high girls' basketball team beat the
   Fostoria, Ohio junior-high girls' basketball team with a score of
   108 to 14.
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643.1MKOTS3::JMARTINBye Bye Mrs. Dougherty!Tue Jan 30 1996 19:147
 Z   What was the winning coach to do---mercifully shoot the opponents in
 Z   the head?
    
    1976 Gator Bowl.  Ohio State coach punches Clemson player in the face.
    Old fart.
    
    -Jack
643.2POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tear-Off BottomsTue Jan 30 1996 19:154
    
    Woody Hayes.  That wasn't '76, that was sometime between '78 and '84.
    
    
643.3MKOTS3::JMARTINBye Bye Mrs. Dougherty!Tue Jan 30 1996 19:173
    I'm impressed!!!!!
    
    
643.4SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiTue Jan 30 1996 19:347
    .0
    
    Some time in the 1880s or '90s, the Rutgers football team beat Brown by
    222-0.  Should Rutgers have stopped playing when it became obvious that
    Brown's team had zero chance?
    
    No, that's not the way sports work.
643.5SCCAT::SHERRILLTue Jan 30 1996 20:035
    
    
    The Clemson football player had no right to intercept that pass from
    the OSU quarterback. He got what he had coming to him.
    
643.6BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Jan 30 1996 20:279
    
    	"Adding insult to injury" isn't just embarrassing someone, but
    	more correctly "doing something after the fact to embarrass some-
    	one further".
    
    	Like beating someone 100-10 in a football game and then the win-
    	ning team steals all the clothes out of the losing team's lockers.
    	And then maybe sets their tour bus driver on fire.
    
643.7CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenTue Jan 30 1996 20:332
    Ah yes, Woody Hayes.....  I fondly recal the chants of "Woody is a pecker!" 
    during our little gridiron contests.  
643.8POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselTue Jan 30 1996 20:342
    No, it's when you break somebody's arm or something and then you tell
    that person how ugly he or she is.
643.9TRLIAN::MIRAB1::REITHIf it's worth doing, it's worth overdoingTue Jan 30 1996 20:366
    
    Yes, insult to injury would be saying
    
    	"Have a nice day"
    
    to someone you just handed a $200.00 ticket to.
643.10BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityTue Jan 30 1996 20:4021

	The team I played on in softball had to make up a game in the drizzle.
The other team batted 1st. They scored 4 runs. We came to bat and scored 5
runs. Everyone thought this was going to be a good game. The final was
49-5....in 5 innings. We lost...... :-(

	Now one from last year that involved our own Mr. Labounty. One night my
team had someone on 1st and 2nd. I hit the ball and the shortstop got it, and
tagged the runner going to 3rd. You remember the coffee man? Well... Don had a
helmet that was too big for him and he thought the guy caught it. He ran back
to 1st and dove onto the bag. The guy at short threw to 1st, and where I
couldn't see the bag due to Don't body, I couldn't get to it. So I was out, and
the guy tagged Don. Triple play! 

	Now, how does that involve Shawn? When I put this story into the dmsl
notesfile, he put a note in saying he had never seen a triple play before.
(maybe it was a triple play live....) that night he hit into one. :-)


Glen
643.11BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Jan 30 1996 20:458
    
    	Thanks for reminding me of that, Glen.
    
    	See, people?  THAT was a good example of adding insult to injury.
    	It was bad enough that I hit into the triple play in the 1st
    	place, but reminding me about it 9 months later is "adding insult
    	to injury".
    
643.12BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityTue Jan 30 1996 20:475

	Shawn... to think that the same umpire was involved in BOTH plays. He
works in my facility and reminds me of it almost everytime I see him. So I
thought you should be reminded. :-)
643.13EVMS::MORONEYOperation Foot BulletTue Jan 30 1996 20:584
There's a note in the Maynard conference that goes something like this:

In 190x Maynard High School started a football team.   In 192x Joe Blow
caught the first forward pass in MHS history.
643.14WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jan 31 1996 10:1614
    unintentional insult to injury...
    
    in the old days ('70s) Digital had a pretty good softball league
    and we had a powerhouse.
    
    we were playing a team and promptly ran up an 18-0 lead after three
    innings. now, there is a run rule (15 run lead) when the game will
    be called. we wanted to play and we thought they wanted to play.
    we started booting grounders, pop flies, and laid off the sticks.
    
    the result? they walked off the field and they were totally p.o.'d
    that we didn't continue to crush them until the 5th inning. 
    
    sheesh, go figure.
643.15BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityWed Jan 31 1996 10:574

	Chip, we had a team do that to us last year..... it did piss us off. We
told them either become better actors, or stop. :-)
643.16WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jan 31 1996 11:034
    well, we weren't trying to be obvious. actually, we felt pretty bad
    afterward.
    
    we even apologized, but i guess the cut was too deep.
643.17WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonWed Jan 31 1996 11:298
    My CYO basketball team in high school was really good, and we were
    playing one of the weaker teams. We must have been up by about 30 or
    so, and the other guard got fouled. We'd been fooling around in
    practice with taking a foul shot by bouncing the ball on the ground
    first, and Drew asked me if he should do it. Of course I encouraged
    him- we were up by plenty. Well, he did it, and the ref went ballistic.
    Gave him a technical and chewed us out after the game. Looking back, it
    wasn't the best example of sportsmanship...
643.18TRLIAN::MIRAB1::REITHIf it's worth doing, it's worth overdoingWed Jan 31 1996 12:3920
    
    Here's an insult to injury reversal.
    
    We were playing a big wiffleball game. (I have a field behind my house 
    with fences, lights, the whole works.  We take our wiffleball
    seriously.)
    
    We were down 11-8, bottom of the 9th, 2 outs.  I was up, and was having
    a bad night.  The center fielder was giving me grief the whole night,
    for good reason - I had not hit it out of the infield the whole night. 
    To add insult to injury he started walking up to the mound saying how I
    wasn't going to hit it out of the infield again.
    
    Well the reversal - I hit it over his head for a double.  The next
    player up hit a double and we won the game.  If he hadn't moved, I
    would have hit it right to him.
    
    Then the added insult - the losers had to buy the beers.
    
    	Skip
643.19BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Jan 31 1996 13:4212
    
    	RE: .4 [Binder]
    
    >	Some time in the 1880s or '90s, the Rutgers football team beat
    >	Brown by 222-0.  Should Rutgers have stopped playing when it
    >	became obvious that Brown's team had zero chance?
    
    	If Rutgers walks off the field, they forfeit ... even though
    	they're winning.
    
    	The only one that could have stopped this game was Brown.
    
643.20MSBCS::KHAMILTONThu Feb 01 1996 12:495
    I remember reading in one of the local papers last year about a swim
    meet.  After the winning team had racked up enough points plus some to
    win the meet, and the other team had no way to catch up, the winning
    coach shut off the score board.
    
643.212104::SKALTSISDebThu Feb 01 1996 15:1420
    One such incident sticks out in my mind. The girl's basketball team
    which I played on in high school were playing a much larger school
    (they were class L, we were class I, probably should have been class
    M). I think that they were the state champs the previous year. Our coach
    was out sick, and the opposing coach refused to reschedule the game. She
    and her team showed up and said play or forfeit (which meant a loss).
    The game was a blowout, and but the worst part about it was that she
    left her starting team in for the entire games (both JV and varsity).

    When the game was finished she told our team captain that she was
    dropping us from next year's schedule because the caliber of our
    players weren't good enough to waste her time with.

    A few months later the local newspaper did a profile on her and she
    talked about how she tries to instill sportsmanship and fair play into
    her team...

    Deb


643.22GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERbe nice, be happyThu Feb 01 1996 16:213
    
    
    I hope someone wrote a letter to the editor.....
643.23I *STILL* would like to!2104::SKALTSISDebThu Feb 01 1996 19:576
    >    I hope someone wrote a letter to the editor.....
    
    My mother stopped me. (She thot it might hurt the small business she
    ran).
    
    Deb
643.24To protect, serve, and rack up incomeSWAM1::STERN_TOTom Stern -- Have TK, will travel!Fri Feb 02 1996 16:192
    Insult to injury is when your car is disabled in an accident, and while
    waiting for the tow truck, it gets a ticket for being illegally parked.
643.25tried to be good sportsmenPOLAR::WILSONCstrive to look better nakedSun Feb 04 1996 09:1517
    i played waterpolo for Hamilton Ontario. Toronto, Hamiltons next door
    neighbor and bane to our existance (people in Toronto tend to think
    they are in the center of the universe, in fact, once I was working for
    a provincial park and these people stopped at the gate house to get a
    campsite. We asked all the usual questions like name, address,
    telephone #, etc., and when we asked what city they were from, they
    looked at us in disgust/wonderment, and said haughtily "Toronto" The
    fact that we were 2000km away from Toronto didn't seem to lessen their
    indignation) anyways, we (hamilton) were playing a waterpolo game
    against toronto. After the first quarter we were winning 22-0. So even
    though my coach hated the coach from toronto he (my coach) decided that
    to be fair, and a good sportsman, he put in our second string. The
    second string stayed in the rest of the game and the final score ended
    up at 52-4. In trying not to add insult to injury, it seemed we made it
    worse by creaming them with our second string. Oh well, it was only
    toronto anyway.
    chris
643.26PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 05 1996 12:373
	Boyz II Men with Mariah Carey

643.27sorry, I can't eat. Lost my appetite.WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonMon Feb 05 1996 12:392
    Rich people at the table next to you order a bottle of Le Montrachet
    from the DRC, and one diner drops a couple of ice cubes in her glass.
643.28SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Feb 05 1996 12:495
    
    
    ice in wine? blech.....
    
    
643.29BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Feb 05 1996 12:492
	Milady.... your wisdom astounds me. :-)
643.30WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonMon Feb 05 1996 13:353
    >ice in wine? blech.....
    
    not just wine. _WINE_. (ie, the bottle probably cost ~ $1k)
643.31CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Feb 05 1996 13:363

 eesh..
643.32ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Feb 05 1996 13:383
    
    
    lot of money to spend on a bottle of wine.
643.33I think I should take umbrage!58633::BUTKOVICHI come in peaceMon Feb 05 1996 13:536
    >> people in Toronto tend to think    they are in the center of the
    universe
    
    *ALL* people of Toronto?!?  I think the fumes from the steel mines must
    have made you addle-brained  8*)
    
643.34BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Feb 05 1996 14:013
    
    	What's wrong with Boyz II Men?
    
643.35PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 05 1996 14:146
    
>    	What's wrong with Boyz II Men?
	
	    they harmonize well, but the lead guy's voice bugs me.
	    he's sort of a one-trick pony, imo, and i just don't
	    like the trick.
643.36BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Feb 05 1996 14:146
| <<< Note 643.34 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Don't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448" >>>


| What's wrong with Boyz II Men?

	Nothing. But the band blows.
643.37WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonMon Feb 05 1996 14:163
    >	Nothing. But the band blows.
    
     Every one of them? No wonder they're so popular wichoo. :-)
643.38BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Feb 05 1996 14:186
    
    	RE: Diane
    
    	Understandable.  That's what bugs me about Mariah Carey [one-trick
    	pony].  If she weren't so darned cute I wouldn't like her at all.
    
643.39BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Feb 05 1996 14:209
	Wow...to think I didn't even see that one coming, Mark.... very good!


| Understandable.  That's what bugs me about Mariah Carey [one-trick
| pony].  If she weren't so darned cute I wouldn't like her at all.

	I like to OLD Mariah...when she used to sing, and put some feeling into
it. Of course now she is selling more records this way......
643.40ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Feb 05 1996 16:124
    I really liked Mariah when she first came out.  Her first release was
    the best, IMO, then she went downhill from there (though she sells more
    records these days).  For the time being, she's turned too "pop" to 
    be of interest to me- other than of visual interest, that is. 8^)
643.41BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Feb 05 1996 16:421
<---pig!
643.42SCASS1::BARBER_Ai was up above itMon Feb 05 1996 16:511
    <---wig!
643.43ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Feb 05 1996 16:532
    
    <---- fig
643.44SCASS1::BARBER_Ai was up above itMon Feb 05 1996 16:551
    <---dig
643.45WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonMon Feb 05 1996 17:041
    shaddap!
643.46ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Feb 05 1996 17:152
    
    <---  that doesn't ryhme
643.47or rhymeACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Feb 05 1996 17:151
    
643.48SCASS1::EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairMon Feb 05 1996 17:162
    
    <Thud>
643.49SCASS1::BARBER_Ai was up above itMon Feb 05 1996 17:241
    <Spud>
643.50ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Feb 05 1996 17:293
    
    oh no April, I'm *not* going to incur the good doctah's wrath. you will
    have to go it alone.
643.51SCASS1::BARBER_Ai was up above itMon Feb 05 1996 17:303
    Just trying to have a little fun.
    
    ho hum...
643.52BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Feb 05 1996 18:196
| <<< Note 643.50 by ACISS1::BATTIS "pool shooting son of a gun" >>>


| you will have to go it alone.

	Can you say this in a family conference?
643.53WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonTue Feb 06 1996 10:153
    opened a bottle of merlot last night. to say it was nothing special
    would be about as complimentary as I could get. The insult? Seeing it
    at another store for 20% less the day after I bought it.
643.54And the book sucks, too.BSS::PROCTOR_RGood, Cheap, Fast -- Pick 2Thu Feb 08 1996 15:5111
    Lessee here:
    
    	Insult:	Hillary (I just don't KNOW where those records came from,
    		honest) Klinton goes on a book tour to promote her 
    		kiddie book.
    
    	Injury:	WE (the supply-sider taxpayers) get to pay for the
    		trip!!! (she uses a government VIP plane @ ~$2300 per HOUR)!
    
    
    	How 'bout that? 
643.55just like Ma Bush did fer her dog bookHBAHBA::HAASExtra low prices and hepatitis too!~Thu Feb 08 1996 16:090
643.56WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Feb 08 1996 16:291
    -1 indeed. but no one will pick on Barb.
643.57LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Thu Feb 08 1996 16:311
    barb wasn't uppity.
643.58find fault only where fault existsWAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonThu Feb 08 1996 16:3211
    >	Injury:	WE (the supply-sider taxpayers) get to pay for the
    >		trip!!! (she uses a government VIP plane @ ~$2300 per HOUR)!
    
     Get over it. Those are the rules. Worked in previous administrations,
    works in this one. Like it or not.
    
    >                     -< And the book sucks, too. >-
    
     Did you read the book prior to giving us your expert opinion?
    
     I have not read the book, but the premise makes sense to me.
643.59POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatThu Feb 08 1996 16:331
    barb wasn't wired.
643.60GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERhave you seen my peewee?Thu Feb 08 1996 16:336
    
    I don't have any problem with this.  This is a perk that goes with the
    position.
    
    
    Mike
643.61BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityThu Feb 08 1996 16:341
she was too toasted to be whired...oh wait...that was betty....
643.62LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Thu Feb 08 1996 16:361
    i really liked betty.
643.63WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Feb 08 1996 16:461
    i liked Veronica better.
643.64...BSS::PROCTOR_RGood, Cheap, Fast -- Pick 2Thu Feb 08 1996 16:4610
    >>   Get over it. Those are the rules.
    
    Whose rules? sure as hell weren't MINE! I like my authors to promote
    their books the good old fashioned way... on the publisher's expense
    account!
    
    BTW;
    	I read the book. there's a 17 page blank chapter.
    
    	(truly, a good idea, but sorta ignores reality -- like the author)
643.65WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonThu Feb 08 1996 16:5420
    >Whose rules? 
    
     The government's. Like it or not, the Secret Service provides security
    for the president and his family (and past presidents). Security cannot
    be reasonably provided on a commercial airliner according to those that
    provide the service.
    
    >sure as hell weren't MINE! 
    
     That's why we don't let you make any important rules.
    
    >I like my authors to promote
    >their books the good old fashioned way... on the publisher's expense
    >account!
    
     The publisher is paying the equivalent of 1st class tickets for Ms
    Rodham Clinton and an aide or two, just like they would if she were
    anyone else. Difference is that the publisher is paying the gummint,
    not a ticket agent. You really can't (reasonably) ask for more than
    that.
643.66REbut(t)BSS::PROCTOR_RGood, Cheap, Fast -- Pick 2Thu Feb 08 1996 16:5727
    
    >> >Whose rules? 
>>     
>>      The government's. Like it or not, the Secret Service provides security
>>     for the president and his family (and past presidents). Security cannot
>>     be reasonably provided on a commercial airliner according to those that
>>     provide the service.
    
    got that right; been in coach lately?
    
>>     >sure as hell weren't MINE! 
    
>>      That's why we don't let you make any important rules.
    
    ah, but they did. they issue one per customer. 
    
    >I like my authors to promote
    >their books the good old fashioned way... on the publisher's expense
    >account!
    
>>      The publisher is paying the equivalent of 1st class tickets for Ms
>>     Rodham Clinton and an aide or two, just like they would if she were
>>     anyone else. Difference is that the publisher is paying the gummint,
>>     not a ticket agent. You really can't (reasonably) ask for more than
>>     that.

    sure I can. and I just did.
643.67WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonThu Feb 08 1996 16:581
    Yeah, but I said "reasonably." That's where you fall short. /hth
643.68BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityThu Feb 08 1996 17:305
| <<< Note 643.63 by WMOIS::GIROUARD_C >>>

| i liked Veronica better.

	You can call her anything you'd like, but her name is Veronica....
643.69BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityThu Feb 08 1996 17:301
adding insult to snarf
643.70PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 11 1996 17:526
  the vending machine just gave me stale pretzels.  as if that wasn't
  bad enough, it then threw my change back at me, and before i even had
  a chance to say "thanks - thanks a million", my change rolled under
  the machine.

643.71CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 11 1996 17:563

 how unfortunate...
643.72SOLVIT::KRAWIECKILord of the Turnip TruckWed Mar 13 1996 13:137
    
    
    Birds will eat stale pretzels...
    
    
    hth
    
643.73NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Apr 01 1996 16:158
From the January 19, 1996 issue of the Austin _Chronicle_:

    Last week's _Chronicle_ erroneously reported that
  Eric Mitchell [member of the Austin City Council] had
  shouted "Up yours" to residents of the Swede Hill
  neighborhood at a Housing Subcommittee meeting last
  year.  In fact, Mitchell leveled a "Screw You!" to
  the residents.  The _Chronicle_ regrets the error.