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Conference back40::soapbox

Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
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Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUEONS
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:862
Total number of notes:339684

622.0. "California Election-Newt Factor" by MIMS::SANDERS_J () Thu Dec 14 1995 17:39

    On Tuesday in California, the Republican candidiate, Campbell, won by a
    landslide despite the Democrats' campaign tactic of trying to make this
    election a referendum on Newt Gingrich.  Campbell won in a heavily
    Democratic congressional district that only gave George Bush 30% of the
    vote in 1992.
    
    On Tuesday in Ilinois (Southside of Chicago), the Democratic candidate,
    Jesse Jackson's son, won.  This win was expected considering the
    district.
    
    The Jackson win made the front pages.  The Campbell landslide barely
    made the last page. 
    
    I feel the Campbell win was very meaningful in the fact that the
    Democrat's tactics did not work.  The White House even sent its best
    campaign gurus to help their candidate.  Yet this barely made the news. 
    Probably just another case of the liberal press not wanting to give
    this much attention. 
    
    Will the Democrats fail in their attempt to make "Newt" the middle name
    of every Republican candidate in 1996?  Campbell was publicly for most
    of the things Gingrich wants to do. 
    
    What do you think?
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622.1NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Dec 14 1995 17:463
What's Campbell's first name?  Where's the district?  Why was there a special
election?  Who was his opponent?  What were the local issues?  How much did
each side spend?  How did the turnout compare with a normal election?
622.2SMURF::WALTERSThu Dec 14 1995 17:506
    > Probably just another case of the liberal press not wanting to give
    > this much attention. 
    
    NPR devoted two large chunks of airtime to this issue, before and after
    the election.
    
622.3ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroThu Dec 14 1995 17:585
    
    well considering Jesse Jackson Jr's father ran for president and
    due to the fact that he is replacing a convicted felon, why do you
    think it wouldn't get better press than Campbell. Whoever, the heck he
    is.
622.4NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Dec 14 1995 17:591
Mods, shouldn't this be in the Newt topic?
622.5TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterThu Dec 14 1995 18:003
    
    ...or the California topic...
    
622.6AXPBIZ::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoThu Dec 14 1995 18:1541
    >What's Campbell's first name?  
    
    Tom.  He's a local independent, got a great record promoting business
    and education in the state legislature- very well respected here- which
    is *very* rare considering the stupidity rampant in the state
    legislature in Sacramento.  He has been described as an independent
    even though a registered Republican for years.  When I lived in
    Mountain View I voted for him.
    
    > Where's the district?  
    
    San Mateo/Santa Clara Counties/parts of each.  Silicon Valley.
    
    > Why was there a special election?  
    
    uhm...I think, but I'm not sure, that the incumbent was Norm Mineta who
    went to head up Clinton's economic policy team just after the election
    a year ago.
    
    > Who was his opponent?  
    
    Jerry Estruth, former San Jose City Council Member.
    
    > What were the local issues?  
    
    Education, responsibility in government.  Rocush is correct in one
    sense (how unusual!) in that his Democratic opponent did try to tar
    Campbell with the brush of being in Newt's camp.  Didn't stick- most
    voters knew Campbell's record better than Estruth's.
    
    > How much did each side spend?  
    
    Estruth less than half a mil- Compbell $1.3M or thereabouts.
    
    > How did the turnout compare with a normal election?
    
    Not good- but this was the day with the hurricane force winds and
    slashing heavy rainfall- completely snarled commutes.  Not surprising
    that turnout wasn't good.
    
    DougO
622.7ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroThu Dec 14 1995 18:572
    
    er DougO, that would be Sanders_J, not Al Rocush.
622.8MIMS::WILBUR_DThu Dec 14 1995 19:116
    
    
    
    .0 Actually Campbell was expected to win.
       The Newt factor was suppose to makee it a closer race though.
    
622.9SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoThu Dec 14 1995 23:127
    >er DougO, that would be Sanders_J, not Al Rocush.
    
    Rocush was spouting off about it a little earlier, over in the Newt
    topic- and about that aspect for which I gave him credit, he was
    right.  Stunning, huh?
    
    DougO
622.10BOXORN::HAYSSome things are worth dying forFri Dec 15 1995 11:4119
RE: 30.1938 by ACISS1::ROCUSH

> Also, this guy got 36% of the vote in a District that had been represented
> by aliberal Democrat, with consistent and very expensive national support. 
> As a point of reference, the Republican that opposed Jesse Jackson Jr. in
> Chicago received 29% of the vote with almost no campaign, no commercials,
> no name recognition, no nothing.  So for a guy running in a Democratic
> district, with almost unlimited funding, attacking Newt gets 36%, I think
> the inferences are clear.

Let's check the math.

Less than a half a million is "almost unlimited funding",  when the winner
spend 1.3 million.  

Something doesn't add up here.    


Phil
622.11SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Fri Dec 15 1995 12:5112
    
    
    Well Phil, if it doesn't add up, then obviously there's a Republican
    plot to bend the truth a bit... no???
    
     Something the Dems would never be guilty of!!!!!
    
    
    Could it possibly be that others (ie National Dem Committee, Friends of
    Dem. loser...etc.) contributed air time and money that didn't fall
    under the loser's umbrella???
    
622.12paper tiger of a tacticGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseFri Dec 15 1995 12:5711
    
      There's a memo floating around by the DNC, trying to put a bright
     face on it, called "Good news for Democrats" - you know, we only
     got beat bad, we didn't get slaughtered, kind of stuff.
    
      I'm afraid this will impress nobody with the effectiveness of the
     technique, the morph of Campbell into Gingrich (whom he resembles
     neither facially nor politically) plain fizzled.  Sure, a close
     loss might not be such a failure.  This wasn't close.
    
      bb
622.13Seems like a lot to me.ACISS1::ROCUSHFri Dec 15 1995 13:0210
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    This guy had spent next to nothing prior to the infusion of the nation
    organization.  I would think that a half mil qualifies when almost
    nothing was spent prior.
    
    The issue is still why no reports stating that this election was a
    confirmation of the Republican Revolution when Campbell wins by 1.6X
    the challenger.
    
622.14SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoFri Dec 15 1995 16:476
    Because Campbell has been elected by these same voters half-a-dozen
    times before, to the State Senate.  His winning doesn't confirm
    anything other than the value to the electorate of a safe pair of
    hands.
    
    DougO