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Conference back40::soapbox

Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
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Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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336.0. "Outbreak, A Prelude???" by TRACTR::WINANS () Fri Mar 10 1995 20:42

    Have read the movie previews on "OUTBREAK", Also were a few articles
    in the news-media this past week on the increasing probability of 
    plague type diseases in the near future due to the increasing 
    resistance of new viruses to today's drugs. 
    
    The movie deals with the results of a outbreak of a plague thought to
    be long eliminated. Might be worth checking out this weekend, wonder
    how my feelings of confidence in the medical profession and government
    to cope with the new outbreaks in TB, rabies, etc will be.........
    
    It's a little uncomfortable to see these these old diseases returning,
    and today's editorial in the USA Today, although representing one view, 
    makes one think......
    
    Discuss..
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336.2POLAR::RICHARDSONAlleged DegirdificationSat Mar 11 1995 01:291
    Somebody is watching Hard Copy, I'd say.
336.3LJSRV2::KALIKOWTechnoCatalystSat Mar 11 1995 02:039
    Heard the original public health folx interviewed on NPR some months
    back.  Ebola virus was involved, as I recall.  Salient phrase was
    "crash and bleed out," a charming notion involving exsanguination from
    each & every extant bodliy orifice, plus new ones that form
    spontaneously.  
    
    Please pass the liver-and-onions, and don't hold the gravy.  There's a
    good noter.  What's delaying you!!???
    
336.4TOOK::GASKELLMon Mar 13 1995 13:1113
    Considering the number of doctors and nurses who haven't seen first
    hand things like measels and chickenpox, let alone pneumonic plague.
    With every  HMO and insurance company trying to keep costs down,
    I don't fancy our chances when something big get's spread around.  My
    fear is that by the time health care providers get moving it will be
    too late, and that could be in as little time as 24 hours - and they 
    will probably be the second wave of people to be knocked out by the
    infection anyway.  We already have a considerable increase in TB, a lot
    of it drug resistent TB. 
    
    The CDC has been making hospitals aware of the possibility of outbreaks
    of several old favorites we haven't seen since the Middle Ages.  And if
    they take it seriously, then I do as well.
336.5AKOCOA::DOUGANMon Mar 13 1995 13:186
    Hospitals breed the new resistant strains - moral is to stay away from
    hospitals if at all possible ( I guess that's self evident).
    
    About TB - one of my personal things to hate - TB can spread through
    dust containing dried sputum.  I hate the seeming increase in people
    spitting. 
336.6CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Mon Mar 13 1995 15:306


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 bubonic plague
336.7CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantMon Mar 13 1995 15:402
    No, it was pneumonic plague.  This was the outbreak that scared India a
    few weeks/months ago.  
336.8Atlanta - home of the CDCDECLNE::REESEToreDown,I'mAlmostLevelW/theGroundMon Mar 13 1995 16:2613
    Last fall one of the networks had a movie on about how our mobile
    society could suffer at the hands of a fast-moving plague.
    
    The story was fiction, but who's to say someone can't board a fully-
    packed plane at Heathrow with sniffles and get in NYC deathly ill.
    By then everyone on the plane is infected (because we know the air
    filtration systems on plane are the pits); the occupants spread the
    virus far and wide after they de-plane.
    
    The promos for Hoffman's flick seem rather far-fetched, (but movies
    are supposed to entertain); they may not be far off the mark.
    
    
336.9POLAR::RICHARDSONcan we have your liver then?Mon Mar 13 1995 16:491
    Wormwood.
336.10TOOK::GASKELLTue Mar 14 1995 12:0414
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    Pnumonic plague
    Hunta Virus
    Anthrax altered for germ warfare
    
    These are three of hundreds that can make you sick and die within
    24 hours.  Without exageration or hyping, right here today, it is 
    very possible for someone to get on a plane looking well, and get 
    carried out the other end near to death, or even dead.
    
    Coughs and colds get passed around in this facility with the greatest of
    ease, I would hate to think how we would manage if it was something
    more deadly.
336.11DECLNE::REESEToreDown,I'mAlmostLevelW/theGroundTue Mar 14 1995 13:075
    .10  That's the point I think the TV movie was trying to make.
    The last time a MAJOR plague was around, the airplane was no 
    where to be seen.  
    
    
336.12TOOK::GASKELLTue Mar 14 1995 14:1313
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    Haven't seen the film yet -- maybe I'll have time this weekend.
    
    Remember the Pneuomic Plague outbreak in India last year, killed 50 
    people and made hundreds sick?
    
    I wonder if the film takes into account that all of our immune systems
    are already under attack by pollution and increases in the UV levels.
    This would play a very large part in aiding the spread of any epidemic.
    
    
                                 
336.13SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareTue Mar 14 1995 14:476
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    pnEumonic plague
    hAnta virus
    
    and anthrax is germ warfare - migawd have you ever HEARD their stuff?
336.14MSBCS::EVANSTue Mar 14 1995 16:589
A contageous air-borne variation of the Eboli Zaire virus could produce 
an outbreak that would be difficult to stop.  I would be less concerned
about old plagues than about new viruses coming out of the rainforest.
The book The Hot Zone was a real eye opener about the existence of 
lethal viruses.

Jim