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302.0. "March Madness" by CSOA1::LEECH (hi) Thu Feb 16 1995 13:10

    It's getting close, you know.
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302.1Who cares?SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBe vewy caweful awound Zebwas!Thu Feb 16 1995 13:151
    
302.2BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeThu Feb 16 1995 13:175


	There is enough madness going on in the world. Do we need a special
month for it?
302.3HELIX::MAIEWSKIThu Feb 16 1995 13:236
  We're talking minor league basketball here, right?

  One thing you can say about who ever wins, if they played an average NBA
team they'd get creamed 109-45.

  George
302.4POWDML::LAUERIntoxicatingly ConnectedThu Feb 16 1995 13:264
    
    ...minor league?
    
    College!
302.5BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeThu Feb 16 1995 13:336
| <<< Note 302.4 by POWDML::LAUER "Intoxicatingly Connected" >>>


| College!

	Collage
302.6MKOTS3::JMARTINYou-Had-Forty-Years!!!Thu Feb 16 1995 13:406
    Glen:
    
    Yes, we have to have an affirmative action program for a certain month
    where people go mad!
    
    -Jack
302.7BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeThu Feb 16 1995 13:583

	March was always your best month Jack. :-)
302.8MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Feb 16 1995 14:059
    Also talking about spring!:) As in there is really only three seasons
    in New England... Early winter, deep winter, and late winter!:) Three
    months of bad sledding and we pray that summer falls on a weekend it
    doesn't rain....
    
    Me! Every day above 32 degrees F is a grand day in my book cause thats
    one less day the oil man/person wolf knocks at my door for money.:)
    
    
302.9POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Feb 16 1995 14:157
    
    George, need I remind you that the NBA is pro, and college is amateur.
    
    I think that UConn or Kansas will take it all this year, just hoping
    I can find an NCAA pool.
    
    Mark
302.10SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBe vewy caweful awound Zebwas!Thu Feb 16 1995 14:188
    <-------
    
    Yeah Mark.. but it's still basically the minor leagues for the pros...
    
    it's just labeled differently... rather than saying "farm team", they
    say "college ball"...
    
    
302.11MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Feb 16 1995 14:223
    Sorry Mark! I was just looking outside and pine-ing for warmer weather
    where I can cut grass, paint the house.... Wash the truck... simple
    things!:)
302.12POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Feb 16 1995 14:267
    
    Mr. Rauh
    
    I was referring to Mr. Meowski, and yes I to would like warmer
    weather, it should hit 50 by Sunday in Chicago.
    
    Mark
302.13WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Feb 16 1995 14:381
    i'm mad now, who needs march!
302.14MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Feb 16 1995 15:331
    .12????????
302.15HELIX::MAIEWSKIThu Feb 16 1995 17:1518
RE            <<< Note 302.9 by POBOX::BATTIS "Contract Studmuffin" >>>

>    George, need I remind you that the NBA is pro, and college is amateur.
    
  Ok, say that you and I both have kids graduating from highschool this year
with grades that are about the same. Say that the only difference is that my
kid is 5' 8", somewhat awkward but has a knack for physics while your kid is 6'
10", was voted to the all-star team in the league in which his highschool team
plays and can bury a 3 pointer from 25 feet. 

  Which one of us is more likely to have to pay to have our kid go to college? 

  Now I have no problem with this, but calling college basketball players
amateurs is stretching the meaning of the word a bit. They are certainly
compensated for their efforts with room, board, and a free college education
which would cost the normal person in excess of $10,000 a year.

  George 
302.16BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeThu Feb 16 1995 17:1915
| Ok, say that you and I both have kids graduating from highschool this year
| with grades that are about the same. Say that the only difference is that my
| kid is 5' 8", somewhat awkward but has a knack for physics while your kid is 6'
| 10", was voted to the all-star team in the league in which his highschool team
| plays and can bury a 3 pointer from 25 feet.
| Which one of us is more likely to have to pay to have our kid go to college?

	I want to direct this one to JACK MARTIN. jack, if a person gets into
college cause she/he can play a sport, and isn't getting in due to their
scholastic aptitude, do you think these people ALSO should not be allowed to
enter into college like you would for those who got in under Affirmative Action?


Glen
302.17TINCUP::AGUEDTN-592-4939, 719-598-3498(SSL)Thu Feb 16 1995 17:257
    Re: .15
    
    You forgot the use of a convertible from one of the local
    car-dealership fan supporters for the five year period while the jock
    works towards his degree in physical ed.
    
    -- Jim
302.18POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Feb 16 1995 17:3712
    
    George
    
    You missed my point alltogether. You said the worst NBA team would beat
    the top college team by 40 or 50 points. What does that have to do with
    a college education?? And yes the Legal definition of a pro is that the
    NBA players get paid big $$$$$$ to play the game. College players do
    not get paid to play. hence, that is the difference. I highly doubt
    the L.A. Clippers or the Minnesota Timberwolves could beat ANY top
    college team by 40 or more points. They would be lucky to win at all.
    
    Mark
302.19 Go DukeXANADU::KMAC::morarosThu Feb 16 1995 17:512
I want Duke, as always. But without Coach K. this year, it's just not the 
same and neither is their record.  Bummer.
302.20HELIX::MAIEWSKIThu Feb 16 1995 18:0126
RE           <<< Note 302.18 by POBOX::BATTIS "Contract Studmuffin" >>>

>    You missed my point alltogether. You said the worst NBA team would beat
>    the top college team by 40 or 50 points. What does that have to do with
>    a college education?? 

  When did I ever say the score had anything to do with a college education?
All I was point out is that "March Madness" is all about teams of players who
are not that good when compared to the best athletes who play the game.

>And yes the Legal definition of a pro is that the
>    NBA players get paid big $$$$$$ to play the game. College players do
>    not get paid to play. hence, that is the difference. 

  Well that depends on how you define the word "paid". If you get room and
board for 4 years along with a free college education can you say that you
were not paid? I suppose but it's really splitting hairs.

>I highly doubt
>    the L.A. Clippers or the Minnesota Timberwolves could beat ANY top
>    college team by 40 or more points. They would be lucky to win at all.
    
  I don't think I said "worst", I believe I said "average". The Clippers and
Timberwolves are not average NBA teams. 

  George
302.21POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Feb 16 1995 18:062
    
    George, your right you did say average. My mistake
302.22SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBe vewy caweful awound Zebwas!Thu Feb 16 1995 18:1012
    
    RE: .18
    
    Mark,
    
    >What does that have to do with a college education??
    
    
     Have you seen the Grade Point Average of the starting five for
    UMass???
    
    
302.23HELIX::MAIEWSKIThu Feb 16 1995 18:2014
RE    <<< Note 302.22 by SOLVIT::KRAWIECKI "Be vewy caweful awound Zebwas!" >>>

>     Have you seen the Grade Point Average of the starting five for
>    UMass???
    
  Actually it's not that bad. There were a few players who had low grades but
then there were a few that had very good grades and I believe one who was an
honor student. 

  But the way the story was spun by the Boston Globe made it sound a lot worse
if you didn't read the entire text. The Globe has a credibility problem when
it comes to U.Mass with most of their sports department coming from B.C.

  George
302.24MKOTS3::JMARTINYou-Had-Forty-Years!!!Thu Feb 16 1995 18:246
    Glen:
    
    No, if the jock cannot meet the academic standards of the
    school...Larry Bird or not, he/she should not be allowed in.
    
    -Jack
302.25NBA Skill Levels > Top CollegesMROA::WILKESThu Feb 16 1995 18:2411
    re 18
    
    Given that even truly superior college teams rarely produce more than
    two NBA players, it is ludricous to think that the Clippers or
    Timberwolves would not be able to beat any top college team soundly.
    
    The physical strength and the shooting accuracy and shooting range of
    NBA players far exceeds that of good college players.
    
    This is not to take away from the entertainment value of college
    basketball which often far exceeds that of the NBA.
302.26BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeThu Feb 16 1995 18:304

	Jack, do you plan on putting as much effort into getting colleges to
stop giving out scholarships for good athletes like ya want to for AA people?
302.27MPGS::MARKEYCalm down: it's only 1s and 0sThu Feb 16 1995 18:3211
    The thing I like about college basketball is it doesn't make me feel
    too bad. I watch college ball and I could maybe hold my own for a few
    minutes on the floor with some of the teams, but NBA... well, it's
    fun to watch guys fly 10 foot off the ground from the foul line to
    the rim, do a 360 spin, and a roundhouse jam, but well... it's just
    a tad hard to relate I'm afraid. My version of a dunk, at my top
    FSC reserve forward form (with a whopping .4 pt career average! :-)
    was to barely get my fingertips to the rim and just give the ball
    a shove! :-)
    
    
302.28MKOTS3::JMARTINYou-Had-Forty-Years!!!Thu Feb 16 1995 18:3612
    Glen:
    
    Colleges as private institutions can set up their own agenda.  They can 
    keep their faculty and students all polish for all I care.  But the
    government doesn't have the right to meddle and set the standards. 
    That's using my tax dollars to sponsor inequity.  If the college is
    racist (Like Howard University for example), or sexist (like the
    Citadel for example) then it's their business and I don't have to be
    part of it!  I think it's wrong just as it is wrong for MIT or any Ivy
    league school!
    
    -Jack
302.29OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Thu Feb 16 1995 19:3716
    Re: .28
    
    >Colleges as private institutions
    
    Most colleges are explicitly public institutions -- like state
    university systems.
    
    >That's using my tax dollars to sponsor inequity.  If the college is
    >racist (Like Howard University for example), or sexist (like the
    >Citadel for example) then it's their business and I don't have to be
    >part of it!
    
    Most colleges do receive your tax dollars, which does make you part of
    it (if you want to be).  Some schools, like Smith College, do not
    receive federal funds and their admissions practices are indeed
    entirely their own business.
302.30CSOA1::LEECHhiThu Feb 16 1995 19:451
    Didn't take long to utterly rathole my topic, I see... <pout>
302.31GO MDODIXIE::ZOGRANTestudo is still grounded!Thu Feb 16 1995 19:484
    Hopefully my Terrapins will have a good showing this year!
    
    Dan (Trying to get the note back on track!)
    
302.32Can't WaitMROA::WILKESThu Feb 16 1995 20:4213
    March Madness is great both at the High School and College levels. Who
    cares if the college players are semi-pros. The NCAA tourney is the
    most consistently exciting of the major sports events in America.
    
    In some ways I like the early rounds even better than the "Final Four"
    because there are more games to watch and occasionally you get to see a
    "David" slay a "Goliath"
    
    My biggest NCAA tourney vicarious thrill was when my High School Coach
    Rollie Massimino ( a great guy until he got greedy at UNLV ) led
    Villanova to the Championship with a big upset of Georgetown.
    
    Lyndon
302.33CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Thu Feb 16 1995 21:013
    	I think that they should shorten the field of teams and play
    	a double-elimination tournament.  Or at least do it once you get
    	to the sweet 16.
302.34MarchTROOA::TEMPLETONFri Feb 17 1995 00:3612
    .30
    
    For a minute or two I thought I had wondered into a basketball
    conference by accident.
    
    March is the month when, just as you think nature is going to be kind,
    mother nature has to have one last whack at you and you can blame the
    weather for everything that ails you, from a cold to your bosses bad
    temper. 
    
    joan    
      
302.35SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBe vewy caweful awound Zebwas!Fri Feb 17 1995 02:138
    
    RE: .23
    
    Ski...
    
    Sorry, but I read the same article (any biases non-withstanding) and it
    was the starting five who had the low-low grades... There were only one
    or two with good grades and those were the ones riding the pines...
302.36CSOA1::LEECHhiFri Feb 17 1995 12:1311
    I picked last year's tourney winner, you know.  Actually, I picked them
    to go all the way after about their 8th game of the season.  I only
    picked 2 of the final 4 in the pool, though.
    
    I don't think Arkansas will repeat, though.  They have not been very
    consistent this year.  Good game against #18 the other night.  They
    seem to do good playing the ranked teams (except for the opener game
    against UMass), but lose to doink teams.
    
    
    -steve
302.37At least I can dreamREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterFri Feb 17 1995 15:443
	The 'Cuse should take it ALL!

ME
302.38POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Feb 17 1995 17:137
    
    Judge, Syracuse???????? Bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    
    Bet on UConn or Kansas to take it all. Arkansas just doesn't have it
    this year. Dark horse would be North Carolina.
    
    Mark
302.39REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterFri Feb 17 1995 19:566
	If you read the title, I said it was a dream.  I do think the 'Cuse 
should get to the regionals.  If I were a betting man, I would indeed
go for Kansas.  My dark horse pick is Michigan St., particularly if
Respert gets hot.

ME
302.40CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Fri Feb 17 1995 20:271
    UCLA has a shot.
302.41REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterSun Feb 19 1995 18:144
    UCLA will be lucky to get to the regionals.  They have had a bit of bad
    luck in previous NCAA's and IMO their team is overrated as usual.
    
    ME
302.42CSOA1::LEECHhiMon Feb 20 1995 13:399
    UC nearly beat Maryland...I think they are better than their current
    ranking would indicate.  
    
    Xavier, too, is better than the rankings would indicate (31st or so?).
    
    Anyone have the current top 25 list they'd be willing to post?  I don't
    get the newspaper.
    
    -steve
302.43like I said, IFREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterMon Feb 20 1995 20:145
	IF I remember, I'll post the top 25 (AP and/or UPI)

AP just came out today.

ME
302.44one To 25HBAHBA::HAASPlan 9 from Outer SpaceMon Feb 20 1995 20:2126
    CNN/USA Today/Coaches:
 1. Kansas
 2. No Carolina
 3. UCLA
 4. Kentucky
 5. Connecticut
 6. Massachusett
 7. Maryland
 8. Arkansas
 9. Arizona
10. Michigan St
11. Villanova
12. Wake Forest
13. Virginia
14. Arizona St
15. Missouri
16. Syracuse
17. Oklahoma St
18. Stanford
19. Mississippi St
20. Purdue
21. Minnesota
22. Georgia Tech
23. Oregon
24. Iowa St
25. Alabama
302.45REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterMon Feb 20 1995 20:233
	Looks like someone beat me to the polls.  Alas, such is work.

ME
302.46POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinTue Feb 21 1995 12:424
    
    Kansas will drop after losing to Oklahoma
    
    Mark
302.47HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Feb 21 1995 12:499
  One thing I don't like about this tournament is it's single game elimination
format. When you consider that there are thousands of College teams, if two of
the top 64 play a single game, anything can happen. It's practically a coin flip
as to who wins. 

  Was B.C. really better than N.C. last year? Would B.C. have beat them in a
best of 7? Best of 5? Even a best of 3? Probably not. 

  George
302.48CSOA1::LEECHhiTue Feb 21 1995 12:5810
    Considering the way the teams are seeded (a 1 seed plays the 16 seed of
    a given region), the middle seeds get the worst of it...these are the
    real coin-tossers.
    
    You can't afford an off game in the tourney, that's for sure.  I don't
    think BC was better than NC last year, but they did play better for one
    game...that's the breaks, that's what makes the tourney exciting.
    
    
    -steve
302.49CSOA1::LEECHhiTue Feb 21 1995 12:583
    re: .44
    
    Thanks for posting the list.
302.50fun 'n gamesHBAHBA::HAASPlan 9 from Outer SpaceTue Feb 21 1995 13:415
You're welcome and it's changing daily.

As mentioned, Kansas lost and so did Villanova.

TTom
302.51REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterTue Feb 21 1995 14:0514
RE: .47

	That's why it is called March Madness.  BTW, IMHO it is hard
to dispute that Arkansas WAS the best team last year.

	As for the polls, that looks like March Madness has already
occured and is still occuring.  So, who gets #1 now - NC?  They will
lose at least one more game (ACC is a very tough league).  UCLA?  
(overrated)  Kentucky?  (possible)

	Let the fun begin these next couple weeks as those bubble 
teams try to get in.

ME
302.52POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinTue Feb 21 1995 14:5910
    
    Mark
    
    This year is a real crapshoot as far as who will go all the way.
    
    Any team in the top 10 could easily take it. I look for teams that
    are well coached, and have deep benches. i.e. Kansas, UConn, Kentucky
    and North Carolina.
    
    Mark
302.53REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterTue Feb 21 1995 15:407
	I have heard that NC is not quite as deep as they usually are.
Was that when they had some injuries?

	But, given the nature if the tournament, I have a feeling that
there will be at least one surprise team in the final four.

ME
302.54CSOA1::LEECHhiTue Feb 21 1995 19:2911
    re: .51
    
    I agree.  Especially considering the last couple of games they played
    to win it all...Arizona, Duke (who was good last year), and another
    good team that I can't remember at the moment.  They didn't have it
    easy the last few games, to be sure.
    
    I was surprised that Duke took out Purdue.  That one cost me the pool
    last year.
    
    -steve
302.55How the mighty have fallenREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterWed Feb 22 1995 11:053
	I think Michigan is that team you could not think
of.  Now, Michigan might be lucky just to make the
tournament
302.56CSOA1::LEECHhiThu Feb 23 1995 13:017
    Arkansas squeaks by LSU last night...they should have won by a good
    margin but they kept shooting themselves in the foot.  This type of
    play will be what does them in in the tourney.
    
    It was an exciting finish, though.
    
    -steve
302.57POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Feb 23 1995 19:505
    
    Steve, its games like that, that make for good tourney action.
    It all starts march 16th, and I for one can't wait.
    
    Mark
302.58REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterThu Feb 23 1995 20:045
	What is almost as fun is watching all the conference tournaments.
All the small conference teams getting the one big chance at the ring is
really exciting.

ME
302.59WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceFri Feb 24 1995 09:573
    Watched about 20 minutes of the UMASS/Temple game last night. UMASS
    looked horrible. It's a mystery how they won so many games. Looks like
    Marcus Camby is their only real player.
302.60Could have been the difference in that gameREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterFri Feb 24 1995 11:385
	UMass is going to have a tough time adjusting to life without Michael
Williams to save them with last second shots and all around long range 
shooting.

ME
302.61CSOA1::LEECHhiFri Feb 24 1995 12:486
    In watching the Arkansas game the other day, I noticed that Stewart
    didn't play any.  Did they lose him to injury or something?  Without
    ESPN (I haven't had cable hooked up in my new place yet, and won't
    until I get my new tv), I can't seem to keep current on college hoops.
    
    -steve
302.62POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Feb 24 1995 15:036
    
    Well Steve, hope you have it by March 16th or you will lose out on
    alot of 1st round action. Those are usually my favorites out of all
    of them. Best chances for the upsets, don't you know.
    
    Mark
302.63CSOA1::LEECHhiFri Feb 24 1995 17:077
    The first round action is the most fun...lots of games going on at the
    same time.  I can't wait.  I should have a new 31" tv to watch it on by
    March 16, too.  I'm afraid I can't even tell when someone makes a
    basket on my current (tiny, I call it "squint-tv") set.  8^)
    
    
    -steve
302.64rhetorical questionPOWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesFri Feb 24 1995 17:532
    
    Why is it called March Madness when it begins in February?
302.65MPGS::MARKEYMother is the invention of necessityFri Feb 24 1995 17:541
    That's what's mad about it!
302.66POLAR::RICHARDSONOoo Ah silly meFri Feb 24 1995 17:551
    Because the final 4 is in march.
302.67POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesFri Feb 24 1995 18:002
    
    I KNOW that 8^p.  I said it was a rhetorical question!  Jeez 8^).
302.68POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Feb 24 1995 18:044
    
    er Glenn, the final 4 is in April.
    
    Mark
302.69POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesFri Feb 24 1995 18:075
    
    Really?  Then, no longer rhetorically, WHY THE HECK IS IT CALLED MARCH 
    MADNESS?
    
    
302.70POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesFri Feb 24 1995 18:083
    
    <-- oh look, I got a snarf 8^).
    
302.71CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Fri Feb 24 1995 18:183
    	re .64
    
    	Because it doesn't begin in February.
302.72POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesFri Feb 24 1995 18:213
    
    Then what exactly are we discussing right now?  Are these imaginary
    games?
302.73CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Fri Feb 24 1995 18:314
    	They're not part of March Madness.  They are part of the regular
    	season.
    
    	March Madness is the tournament season.
302.74CSOA1::LEECHhiFri Feb 24 1995 18:492
    Joe's right on this one.  The tourney don't start til next month.  This
    is goodness, since I will not be getting my new tv this month.  8^)
302.75They'll sweep the Hoyas!REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterFri Feb 24 1995 19:565
	Key game in the Big East Sunday: Syracuse vrs. Georgetown.

SU won the first meeting because GTown could not make their free throws.

ME
302.76CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Fri Feb 24 1995 20:211
    	Hoyas have always been a poor free throwing team.
302.77Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMAnd monkeys might fly outa my butt!Sun Feb 26 1995 21:331
    Ban March
302.78REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterMon Feb 27 1995 10:4918
    	Well, the weekend had some really good games on the tube (and since
    I don't have a life, I watched most of them :-) ).
    
    	DePaul delivered a blow to Louiville when Klendscmidt(sp?) hit a 3
    pointer and was fouled.  The free throw was the difference.
    
    	Alabama bounced Florida, making it very difficult for the Gators to
    get back to the tournament.
    
    	Purdue does not appear to miss Robinson that much as they defeated
    Wisconsin.
    
    	Georgetown rediscovered Harrington as they handed Syracuse yet
    another defeat (5 in last 7? :-( )
    
    	UCLA won convincingly against an undermanned Duke team to become #1
    
    ME
302.79POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinMon Feb 27 1995 11:586
    
    Judge, true all the games were good, I didn't see any of them, but read
    the results in the paper. Looking to see if Kansas can finish number 1
    or 2 prior to the tournament. They should be a number 1 seed somewhere.
    
    Mark
302.80As of right nowREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterMon Feb 27 1995 15:468
Here are my picks for the top seeds:

West: UCLA
MidWest: Kansas
SouthEast: Kentucky
East: UNC

ME
302.81coaches' pollHBAHBA::HAASPlan 9 from Outer SpaceMon Feb 27 1995 17:2126
    CNN/USA Today/Coaches:
 1. UCLA
 2. No Carolina
 3. Kentucky
 4. Kansas
 5. Connecticut
 6. Maryland
 7. Arkansas
 8. Massachusetts
 9. Michigan St
10. Arizona
11. Wake Forest
12. Villanova
13. Virginia
14. Arizona St
15. Syracuse
16. Purdue
17. Mississippi St
18. Oklahoma
19. Stanford
20. Oklahoma St
21. Missouri
22. Alabama
23. Georgetown
24. Iowa St
25. Utah
302.82REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterTue Feb 28 1995 11:106
	It must be noted that the CNN/USA Today/Coaches poll does not take
into account games played on Sunday.

	Big upset yesterday: Providence over #5 UConn

ME
302.83Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMAnd monkeys might fly outa my butt!Wed Mar 01 1995 01:212
    It's March already........ Jeeze it's Christmas soon. Have they got 
    the cards on the shelves yet.
302.84REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterWed Mar 01 1995 11:229
	Yet another upset last night... #9 Wake Forest defeated #2 North Carolina.

Tonights TV games:
#6 Maryland at Duke
#23 Syracuse vrs. St. Johns at Madison Square Garden

Doesn't anybody want to have a #1 seed? :-)

ME
302.85CSOA1::LEECHhiWed Mar 01 1995 12:316
    It's getting closer...just a couple o' weeks.  8^)
    
    The only score I remember from the radio this morning (of ranked teams)
    was #7 Arkansas over Florida, 94-83 or something like that.
    
    -steve
302.86POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Mar 02 1995 17:382
    
    Syracuse lost again as well
302.87REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterMon Mar 06 1995 10:4814
    Okay, time for a serious basketball discussion.
    
    	The NCAA tournament gives an automatic bid to 30 some conferences. 
    In conferences that have a tournament, the bid goes to the team that
    wins the tournament.  Occasionally, the best team in these conferences
    does not win their conference tournament.  I present as evidence, the
    TAAC (don't remember what the letters stand for) sutomatic bid went to
    Florida International, which had a 8-17 regular season record, but won
    the conference tournament.  Stetson was the best team elligible for the
    conference tournament.  Here is the question, should the NCAA decide
    that the automatic bid should go to the team with the best regular
    season record in the conferences?
    
    ME
302.88CSOA1::LEECHbeware of flaming gerbil projectilesMon Mar 06 1995 12:2315
    I'm not sure there should be an automatic bid.  Why not just invite the
    64 best teams (best record, including schedule strength into the
    equation) to the tourney? 
    
    You always end up with a 16 seed that gets trounced by 30 points to a 1
    seed...not very thrilling.  I think it is unfair when a good team gets
    pushed off the bubble (say one who didn't win its conf. tourney, but it
    ranked #35 in the nation overall) because you have to let in a team
    with a 6-20 record who wins its tourney. 
    
    Too many good teams are left out, teams that could make the big dance a
    lot more interesting (of course, this would certainly make picks a bit
    tougher in the pools  8^) ).
    
    -steve
302.89WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Mon Mar 06 1995 12:5524
    
    Depends on what you think is "interesting."  Schools with big sports
    budgets will always make the field of 64, but small-time programs may
    not.
    
    I think the NCAA shows some (usually lacking) gumption by keeping it
    the way it is.  I personally *like* seeing all the Rider and Coppin
    State teams play every year.  I would *never* hear about those schools
    otherwise.  I enjoy watching those teams, seeing what the unknowns are
    doing.
    
    Sure, the best basketball isn't being played because you don't have the
    best 64 teams in the country.
    
    But this is, afterall, not professional ball.  Let's keep what little 
    variety and collegiate brotherhood we have in NCAA sports and let the
    little guys have their shots.  The big schools have 32 other chances
    to get and at-large bid, and generally have the means to attain a shot
    there if they want one.
    
    Plus, there *is* the occasional upset (URI to the sweet 16 in '88), and
    that's always fun to watch.
    
    - Sean
302.90Top 25HBAHBA::HAASPlan 9 from Outer SpaceMon Mar 06 1995 13:2126
    CNN/USA Today/Coaches:
 1. UCLA
 2. Kansas
 3. No Carolina
 4. Kentucky
 5. Connecticut
 6. Arkansas
 7. Massachusetts
 8. Wake Forest
 9. Michigan St
10. Maryland
11. Arizona
12. Virginia
13. Purdue
14. Villanova
15. Mississippi St
16. Arizona St
17. Oklahoma St
18. Oklahoma
19. Missouri
20. Syracuse
21. Utah
22. Alabama
23. Oregon
24. Stanford
25. Iowa St
302.91REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterMon Mar 06 1995 15:3710
	I say let the minor conferences get their automatic berth.  
These schools do play some good ball, but are not known about because 
they don't get the TV exposure that others get.  This is usually proven
when they play the better teams.  Sure, they get to be low seeded, but 
think of the glory if they actually won.  Look at Santa Clara about three
years ago.  The whole campus was one big party after they knocked off 
#2 Arizona.  So, these small conferences do produce teams that could be
considered one of the best 64 teams.

ME
302.92ASABET::YANNEKISMon Mar 06 1995 19:2315
    
    Sure the 6th place team in the Big 10 is a better team than the
    champion of the IVY league or a bunch of other conferences but so what. 
    Just seeding the top 64 teams, IMO, just makes the tournament have more
    mediocre teams because that 6th place team competes under much
    different circumstances (scholarships, TV exposure, size of school,
    academic standards (or lack thereof) than the IVY league team.  The IVY
    league team excelled under it's set of cicumstances while the 6th place
    Big 10 team was mediocre under it's.
              
    If they make any changes I hope they cut down the number of
    representatives from the big conferences.
    
    Greg
    
302.93Go Quakers!REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterMon Mar 06 1995 20:154
	Isn't Michigan the 6th place team in the Big 10?  And they got
beat ON THEIR OWN COURT by Penn earlier this year.

ME
302.9411 down - 53 more to goREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterTue Mar 07 1995 10:5021
    	Here is a list of teams that have already qualified for the
    tournament:
    
    UCLA - Pac 10
    Penn - Ivy
    Florida International - Trans America Atheltic
    North Carolina A & T - Mid-Eastern
    Murray St. - Ohio Valley
    Mount St. Mary's - Northeast
    Tennessee-Chatanooga - Southern
    Old Dominion - Colonial Athletic
    St. Peter's - Metro Athletic Atlantic
    Southern Illinois - Missouri Vally
    Gonzaga - West Coast
    
    Note: of the 9 teams that qualified by conference tournament, only 2
    were the #1 seed in their tournament (Pac 10, Ivy, and Big 10 have no
    tournament).  Consider yourself a REAL college hoops junkie if you can
    name those two teams.
    
    ME
302.95CSOA1::LEECHbeware of flaming gerbil projectilesTue Mar 07 1995 11:432
    Gonzaga??  Never heard of it.  Of course, I'm not from the west
    coast...
302.96POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinTue Mar 07 1995 11:554
    
    .94 Southern Illinois is one not sure who the other is Murray St?
    
    Mark
302.97ASABET::YANNEKISTue Mar 07 1995 12:585
    
    I believe Gonzago gave the NBA one John Stockton ... otherwise I
    wouldn't have a clue it existed.
             
     
302.98 8^) CSOA1::LEECHa gerbil is a terrible thing to basteTue Mar 07 1995 14:061
    It sounds like a tribal dance or something...
302.99POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinTue Mar 07 1995 17:152
    
    or something you wouldn't want to catch.
302.100MarchnarfGRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA member in good standingTue Mar 07 1995 17:172
    
    
302.101CSOA1::LEECHa gerbil is a terrible thing to basteTue Mar 07 1995 18:588
    Marchnarf?
    
    I could see a maddening snarf,
    a mad snarf
    snarf madness
    March snarf
    
    but what's a Marchnarf?  8^)
302.103REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterTue Mar 07 1995 20:145
    A couple more teams cash in their tickets for the big dance tonight.  I
    see nobody took my challenge of naming the #1 seed that have won their
    conference tournaments.
    
    ME
302.104WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Tue Mar 07 1995 23:344
    
    Gonzaga - First time in the tourney!  Hope they come to Albany (where
    I'm headed for the first round)....
    
302.10515 teams now are inREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterWed Mar 08 1995 11:108
RE: .104 - Got any extra tickets?

Wisconsin-Green Bay and Western Kentucky qualified last night for the 
tournament.

Northeastern plays Drexel to get an automatic bid.

ME
302.106POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinWed Mar 08 1995 11:335
    
    Mark, I answered your question about 9 or 10 notes ago, don't know if
    I was right or not though.
    
    Mark
302.107SUBPAC::JJENSENThe Short-timer Fishing WidowWed Mar 08 1995 14:442
	Nothing to do with College Basketball Madness, but on
	Nantucket Island, March is referred to as "Hate Month."
302.108REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterWed Mar 08 1995 15:366
RE: .106

	Wrong on both teams.  The correct answers are Tennessee-Chatanooga
and Old Dominion.  Western Ketucky was a #1 seed that won last night.

ME
302.109POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinWed Mar 08 1995 15:422
    
    course neither team will be around past next Friday.
302.110REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterWed Mar 08 1995 20:044
	Don't be to sure about that.  Both teams are veterens of the 
tournament.  I'll wait to see who they play.

ME
302.111REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterThu Mar 09 1995 10:486
    Drexel qualified for the NCAAs after defeating Northeastern.
    
    This puts the list up to 16 teams in.  Temple and UMass go tonight, and
    the ACC and Big East tournaments start today.
    
    ME
302.112Techno-roundball...GAAS::BRAUCHERThu Mar 09 1995 11:295
    
    Drexel vs. Northeastern ?  I didn't realize there was a "Big Geek"
    conference...
    
      bb
302.113POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Mar 09 1995 11:545
    
    I look to see Wake Forrest or Maryland in the ACC, I think Uconn or
    Villanova in the Big East.
    
    Mark
302.114REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterThu Mar 09 1995 19:5115
RE: .112

	The coaches were using slide rules and calculating the trajectory
angles for the ball to go in the basket. :-)

Tonight's major action:
	Big East tournament (non-TV)
		Seton Hall vrs. Boston College
		St. John's vrs. Pittsburgh
	ACC (ESPN)
		Clemson vrs. Duke
	Atlantic 10 tournament final (ESPN)
		Temple vrs. UMass

ME
302.115WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceFri Mar 10 1995 10:312
    UMASS crushed Temple. Hammered 'em. Well played ballgame. Lots of
    contributors. Excellent outside shooting by Padilla and Kellogg.
302.116POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Mar 10 1995 13:252
    
    <---- is Camby still out?
302.117BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeFri Mar 10 1995 13:293

	He played last night...
302.118Speculation about whether he'll turn proWAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceFri Mar 10 1995 16:223
     Nope. He's been back for a couple weeks. He's been playing great,
    though last night's performance was quite at the level it's been
    lately (shooting touch.)
302.119CSOA1::LEECHFri Mar 10 1995 16:281
    It's getting closer...
302.120Bracket in the next postREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterMon Mar 13 1995 11:0912
This is the official Soapbox NCAA pool topic now.  This
pool will be based on the points system. The points are


	1 - 2 - 4 - 8 - 12 - 16

by round respectively.  This gives all who don't pick
the national champs a shot to still win.  Good Luck,
standings will be posted.


 
302.121Here it is - the bracket for 1995REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterMon Mar 13 1995 11:10135
11.Illinois
---------------------
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |
14.Old Dominion                |---------
---------------------          |         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |
10.Stanford                              |---------
---------------------                    |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
---------------------          |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |
12.Penn                                            |---------
---------------------                              |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
---------------------                    |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
---------------------          |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
---------------------                              |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
---------------------                                                  |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
---------------------                                        |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |                             |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
---------------------                              |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |                   |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
---------------------                    |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |         |
16.Colgate                     |---------
---------------------          |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
    
302.122I'll be first with my picksREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterMon Mar 13 1995 11:42135
11.Illinois
--------------------- Tulsa
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |Villanova
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- Villanova|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |Villanova
10.Stanford                              |---------
--------------------- Stanford           |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |UMass    |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
--------------------- UMass    |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |Villanova
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Penn                         |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |Penn               |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- Okla. St |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |W. Forest|         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- Minnesota          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |W. Forest|                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
--------------------- W. Forest|                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |UConn
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
--------------------- Texas                                  |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Maryland                     |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |UConn              |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Cincinatti         |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |UConn    |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- UConn    |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |UConn    |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Miss. St                     |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Miss. St           |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Utah     |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |UCLA     |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Indiana            |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA     |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |Kentucky
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
--------------------- Georgetown                                       |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |Georgetown                             |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
--------------------- Mich. St |         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |Georgetown                   |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Iowa St            |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |UNC      |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- UNC      |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |Kentucky           |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
--------------------- Arizona St                   |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Oklahoma           |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Oklahoma |         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |Kentucky |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Tulane             |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |Kentucky |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Kentucky |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |Kentucky |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
--------------------- Memphis                                |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |Memphis                      |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- Purdue   |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |Arkansas           |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
--------------------- Syracuse           |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Arkansas |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Arkansas |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |Arkansas |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
--------------------- Arizona                      |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |Virginia           |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
--------------------- Virginia |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |Kansas   |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- W. Kentucky        |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |Kansas   |
16.Colgate                     |---------
--------------------- Kansas   |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
    
302.123WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Mon Mar 13 1995 21:044
    
    Ha.... like Pitino will win the big one!  ;^)
    
    
302.124At least I posted my picksREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterTue Mar 14 1995 10:396
    RE: .123
    
    	If you're so smart, why don't YOU post your picks and enlighten us
    as to who the NCAA champion is going to be.
    
    ME
302.125POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinTue Mar 14 1995 11:236
    
    fear not I have the winner, Arkansas over UCLA. Judge, can you
    enlighten me on how you did that in .122 without alot of excessive
    retyping. I would like to post my entire picks for the big dance.
    
    Mark
302.126CSOA1::LEECHTue Mar 14 1995 12:1623
    Why not have the killer "32 point bracket"?  Picking the winner of the
    big dance is always tricky; besides, it helps do away with ties.   
    
    Oh well, I'll have my picks in tomorrow sometime.  I'm sitting with a
    pick sheet in front of me right now and will be filling it out as the
    day goes by.
    
    
    Anyone see the Kentucky/Arkansas game Sunday?  Amazing.  Everytime
    Arkansas got conservative with their offense, Kentucky came back. 
    Eventually they won it in OT in this fashion.  You would've thought
    that they would have kept attacking the hoop, especially when being
    conservative is what got them in trouble in the first place.  If
    Richardson is smart, he will have learned something from this mistake
    and he won't make it again.  
    
    Kentucky has too good a defense to let them get set.  A hard lesson
    that cost Ark. the SEC championship.
    
    It was an exciting game.
    
    
    -steve 
302.127REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterTue Mar 14 1995 15:386
RE: .125

	Extract post .121 to a file, then fill in the blanks.  Then reply <filename> (if
using notes /nodec) or if you use XNotes - reply and include filename.

ME 
302.128CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Mar 14 1995 15:43135
11.Illinois
--------------------- Tulsa
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          | Nova
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- Nova     |         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    | Umass
10.Stanford                              |---------
--------------------- Stanford           |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          | UMass   |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
--------------------- UMass    |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |  OSU
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Penn                         |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |OSU                |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- OSU      |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |  OSU    |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- Who cares?  (Minn) |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          | Wake    |                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
---------------------  Wake    |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |   UCLA
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
---------------------  Oregon                                |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | Maryland                    |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
---------------------  Maryland|         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    | UConn             |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  Temple            |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | UConn   |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  UConn   |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |  UCLA   |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
---------------------  Miss                        |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          | Miss              |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
---------------------  UTAH    |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    | UCLA    |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
---------------------  Indiana           |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          | UCLA    |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
---------------------  UCLA    |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |  UCLA
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
---------------------  G'Town                                          |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          | MSU                                   |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
---------------------  MSU     |         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    | NC                          |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
---------------------  FLA               |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | NC      |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------  NC      |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |  KY               |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
---------------------  ASU                         |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          | OU                |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  OU      |         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |  KY     |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  Tulane            |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          | KY      |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
---------------------  KY      |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |   KY    |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
---------------------  Memphis                               |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          | PU                          |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
---------------------  PU      |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | Syracuse          |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
---------------------  Syracuse          |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          | Syracuse|         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
---------------------  Ark     |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |   KU    |
---------------------                              |         |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
---------------------  AZ                          |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |  AZ               |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
---------------------  VA      |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |  KU     |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
---------------------  Mich              |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |  KU     |
16.Colgate                     |---------
---------------------  KU      |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
    
302.129my spoiler sheetCSOA1::LEECHTue Mar 14 1995 17:30135
11.Illinois
--------------------- Tulsa
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |Villanova
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- Villanova|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |Villanova
10.Stanford                              |---------
--------------------- NC-Charlotte       |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |U.Mass   |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
--------------------- U.Mass   |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              | Villanova
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Alabama                      |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |Alabama            |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- OSU      |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |Alabama  |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- St. Louis          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |Wake     |                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
--------------------- Wake     |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |U.Conn
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
--------------------- Oregon                                 |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Maryland                     |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |U.Conn             |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Cincinnati         |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |U.Conn   |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- U.Conn   |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |U.Conn   |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Miss.                        |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Miss.              |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Utah     |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |UCLA     |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Indiana            |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA     |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |Arkansas
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
--------------------- Xavier                                           |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |Mich. St.                              |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
--------------------- Mich. St.|         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |NC                           |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Florida            |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |NC       |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- NC       |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |Kentucky           |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
--------------------- Arizona                      |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Arizona            |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Oklahoma |         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |Kentucky |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Tulane             |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |Kentucky |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Kentucky |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |Arkansas |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
--------------------- Loisville                              |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |Purdue                       |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- Purdue   |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |Arkansas           |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
--------------------- Syracuse           |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Arkansas |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Arkansas |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |Arkansas |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
--------------------- Arizona                      |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |Arizona            |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
--------------------- Virginia |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |Kansas   |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- Mich.              |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |Kansas   |
16.Colgate                     |---------
--------------------- Kansas   |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
    
302.130CSOA1::LEECHWed Mar 15 1995 11:523
    So...who's keeping score?  
    
    Big dance starts tomorrow noon!
302.131REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterWed Mar 15 1995 15:3413
	I'll keep score (since I am the judge).

	I'll also reiterate the point system we will use.

	Round	Points
	1	1
	2	2
	3	4
	4	8
	Semis	16
	Finals	32

ME
302.132CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Wed Mar 15 1995 16:302
    My picks have changed.  I have til noon tomorrow to change my post,
    don't I?  8^)  
302.133CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Wed Mar 15 1995 17:434
    	re .132
    
    	That seems fair enough.  Should be noon Eastern Time to be 
    	consistent.
302.134CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Wed Mar 15 1995 18:461
    How about noon Calif. time.  8^)  
302.135POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinWed Mar 15 1995 19:42116
    
    MIDWEST
    --------
    round 1
    
    Kansas
    Michigan
    Arizona
    Virginia
    Louisville
    Purdue
    Syracuse
    Arkansas
    2nd round
    ---------
    Kansas
    Virginia
    Purdue
    Arkansas
    3rd round
    ---------
    Kansas
    Arkansas
    4th round
    Arkansas
    Champion
    --------
    Arkansas
    
    Southeast
    --------
    1st round
    ---------
    Kentucky
    BYU
    Arizona St
    Oklahoma
    Georgetown
    Michigan St
    Iowa St
    N.Carolina
    2nd round
    ---------
    Kentucky
    Ariz St
    Michigan St
    N.Carolina
    3rd round
    --------
    Kentucky
    N.Carolina
    4th round
    ---------
    Kentucky
    
    East
    ----
    Wake Forest
    St. Louis
    Alabama
    Oklahoma St
    Tulsa
    Villanova
    Stanford
    UMass
    2nd round
    --------
    Wake Forest
    Oklahoma St
    Villanova
    UMass
    3rd round
    ---------
    Wake Forest
    Villanova
    4th round
    --------
    Villanova
    
    West
    -----
    1st round
    ---------
    UCLA
    Indiana
    Miss St
    Utah
    Texas
    Maryland
    Cinn
    UConn
    2nd round
    --------
    UCLA
    Miss St
    Maryland
    UConn
    3rd round
    ---------
    UCLA
    Maryland
    4th round
    --------
    UCLA
    
    Final Four
    ---------
    Arkansas
    Kentucky
    Villanova
    UCLA
    
    Arkansas over Kentucky
    UCLA over Villanova
    
    Arkansas over UCLA
302.136REFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterWed Mar 15 1995 20:0110
	RE: .135

	Would you be so polite as to but that in bracket form?  It would make it much
easier for me if I am going to keep score here.  

	For the rest of you, you have until 12 noon Eastern Standard, 11AM Central, 
10AM Mountain, and 9AM Pacific (of course - if you live or posr in a time zone other 
than these, convert noon Eastern time to your time.

ME
302.137POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Mar 16 1995 11:297
    
    er Mark
    
    I tried your directions in .125 and it didn't work, is there an
    easier way for an illeterate noter to accomplish this?
    
    Mark
302.138CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Thu Mar 16 1995 11:5616
    Try this:
    
    extract bball
    
    If you will look below the command line after you type in the extract
    command and hit 'enter', you will see a string looking something like
    this: 1 note written to file DISK$USER03:[(your user name)]bball;1 
                                 -------------------------------------
    type in "reply" then the file    ^
                                     |
    
    
    Then edit.  
    
    
    -steve
302.139CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Thu Mar 16 1995 12:0817
    I should change my sheet, but I'll leave it as is.  Now I have three
    different pool sheets.  8^)
    
    On my spoiler sheet here at work, I have Ball St. beating Ariz. state,
    and my final 4 are Villanova, Maryland, Ark., and Kentucky (in addition
    to the spoilers in my soapbox sheet).  I weenied out on my Alabama
    spoiler pick, I have wake Wake Forest beating them.
    
    My normal sheet has Ark, Kentucky, Wake Forest and UConn as my final
    four.  I decided to enter two sheets this year in hopes of keeping
    things interesting in the light of the inevitable upsets.
    
    I will be having lunch in today...will be watching first round games
    in the lunchroom.  8^)
    
    
    -steve
302.140POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Mar 16 1995 12:56147
           <<< BACK40::BACK40$DKA500:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SOAPBOX.NOTE;1 >>>
                          -< Soapbox.  Just Soapbox. >-
================================================================================
Note 302.121                      March Madness                       121 of 139
REFINE::KOMAR "The karaoke master"                  135 lines  13-MAR-1995 08:10
                     -< Here it is - the bracket for 1995 >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
11.Illinois
---------------------  TULSA
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |VILLANOVA
14.Ol
    
    
    
    d Dominion                |---------
---------------------  VILLANOVA        |         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
----- ----------------                    |VILLANOVA
10.Stanford                              |---------
---------------------  STANFORD                  |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          | UMASS        |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
---------------------  UMASS        |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |VILLANOVA  
12.Penn                                            |---------
---------------------  ALABAMA                            |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          | OKL ST                  |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- OKLH ST        |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | WAKE FOREST        |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
---------------------  ST LOUIS                  |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |WAKE FOREST         |                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
---------------------  WAKE F        |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |UCLA
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
---------------------  TEXAS                                      |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | MARYLAND                            |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
---------------------  MARYLAND        |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    | MARYLAND                  |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  CINC                  |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | UCONN        |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  UCONN        |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |UCLA         |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
---------------------  MISS ST                            |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |  MISS ST                 |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
---------------------  UTAH        |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    | UCLA        |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
---------------------  INDIANA                  |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA         |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
---------------------  UCLA        |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                      
    
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
---------------------  GTOWN                                                |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          | MICH ST                                      |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
---------------------  MICH ST        |         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    | N.CAROLINA                            |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
---------------------  IOWA ST                  |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | N.CAROLINA        |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------  N.CAROL        |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | KENT                  |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
---------------------  ARIZ ST                            |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |ARIZ ST                   |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  OKLAHOMA        |         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |KENT         |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  BYU                  |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |KENT         |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
---------------------  KENT        |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |ARKANSAS         |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
---------------------  LOUISVILLE                                      |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          | PURDUE                            |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
---------------------  PURDUE        |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | ARKANSAS                  |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
---------------------  SYRACUSE                  |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |ARKANSAS         |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
---------------------  ARKANSAS        |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              | ARKANSAS        |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
---------------------  ARIZONA                            |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          | VIRGINIA                  |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
---------------------  VIRGINIA        |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |  KANSAS       |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
---------------------  MICHIGAN                  |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |  KANSAS       |
16.Colgate                     |---------
---------------------  KANSAS        |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
    
302.141POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Mar 16 1995 12:585
    
    Thanks Steve, damn hard to read and edit though. In case I missed
    the championship game box, Arkansas over UCLA. Let the games begin!!
    
    Mark
302.142What do I know....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftThu Mar 16 1995 13:34137
11.Illinois
--------------------- Illinois
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |Illinois
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- Villanova|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |UMass
10.Stanford                              |---------
--------------------- Stanford           |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |UMass    |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
--------------------- UMass    |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |UMass
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Penn                         |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |Drexel             |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- Drexel   |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |Drexel   |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- St. Louis          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |St. Louis|                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
--------------------- NC A&T   |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |Fla. Inte
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
--------------------- Texas                                  |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Texas                        |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |Texas              |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Temple             |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |Tenn-Chat|         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Tenn-Chat|                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |Fla. Inte|         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Santa Cla                    |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Utah               |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Utah     |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |Fla. Inte|                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Indiana            |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |Fla. Inte|                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
--------------------- Fla. Inte|                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |Fla. International
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
--------------------- Xavier-OH                                        |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |Michigan                               |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
--------------------- Michigan |         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |Iowa St.                     |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Iowa St.           |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |Iowa St. |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- NC       |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |Iowa St.           |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
--------------------- Arizona                      |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Arizona            |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Manhattan|         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |BYU      |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- BYU                |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |BYU      |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Kentucky |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |Iowa St. |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
--------------------- Louisvill                              |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |Louisvill                    |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- Wisc-GB  |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |Tex. Sout          |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
--------------------- S. IL              |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Tex. Sout|         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Tex. Sout|                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |Tex. Sout|
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
--------------------- Arizona                      |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |Arizona            |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
--------------------- Nicholls |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |Arizona  |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- W. Kentuc          |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |W. Kentuc|
16.Colgate                     |---------
--------------------- Colgate  |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
    


302.143POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Mar 16 1995 14:142
    
    sure hope more people turn in their picks today
302.144CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Thu Mar 16 1995 14:1611
    
>    sure hope more people turn in their picks today


  Hey....I just started playing guitar again and I *need* my picks!




Jim
302.145I cleaned it up a bit. Yes, I'm having a slow day...CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Thu Mar 16 1995 14:23141
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Note 302.140                      March Madness                       140 of 142
POBOX::BATTIS "Contract Studmuffin"                 147 lines  16-MAR-1995 09:56
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
11.Illinois
---------------------  TULSA
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |VILLANOVA
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- VILLANOVA|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
----- ----------------                   |VILLANOVA
10.Stanford                              |---------
---------------------  STANFORD          |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          | UMASS   |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
---------------------  UMASS   |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |VILLANOVA  
12.Penn                                            |---------
---------------------  ALABAMA                     |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          | OKL ST            |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- OKLH ST  |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | WAKE F. |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
---------------------  ST LOUIS          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |WAKE F.  |                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
---------------------  WAKE F  |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |UCLA
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
---------------------  TEXAS                                 |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | MARYLAND                    |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- MARYLAND |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    | MARYLAND          |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  CINC              |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | UCONN   |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  UCONN   |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |UCLA     |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
---------------------  MISS ST                     |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |  MISS ST          |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
---------------------  UTAH    |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    | UCLA    |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
---------------------  INDIANA           |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
---------------------  UCLA    |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  | ARK
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       | 
---------------------  GTOWN                                           |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          | MICH ST                               |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
---------------------  MICH ST |         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    | N.CAROLINA                  |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
---------------------  IOWA ST           |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | N.CAROL |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------  N.CAROL |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | KENT              |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
---------------------  ARIZ ST                     |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |ARIZ ST            |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  OKLAHOMA|         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |KENT     |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  BYU               |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |KENT     |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
---------------------  KENT    |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |ARKANSAS |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
---------------------  LOUISVILLE                            |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          | PURDUE                      |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
---------------------  PURDUE  |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | ARKANSAS          |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
---------------------  SYRACUSE          |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |ARKANSAS |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
---------------------  ARKANSAS|                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              | ARKANSAS|
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
---------------------  ARIZONA                     |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          | VIRGINIA          |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
---------------------  VIRGINIA|         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |  KANSAS |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
---------------------  MICHIGAN          |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |  KANSAS |
16.Colgate                     |---------
---------------------  KANSAS  |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
    
302.146less than a 1/2 hour to post your picksCSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Thu Mar 16 1995 14:331
    The deadline draws near...
302.147POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesThu Mar 16 1995 14:352
    
    I'm hurrying, I'm hurrying!
302.148thanks a lot Steve!!POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Mar 16 1995 14:382
    
    :-) :-)
302.149POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesThu Mar 16 1995 14:46135
    
11.Illinois
--------------------- Tulsa
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |Villanova
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- Villanova|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |Villanova
10.Stanford                              |---------
--------------------- NC-Charlotte       |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |Charlotte|         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
--------------------- U.Mass   |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              | Villanova
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Alabama                      |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |Okla St.           |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- Okla St. |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |Okla St. |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- Minnesota          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |Wake     |                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
--------------------- Wake     |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |UCLA
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
--------------------- Oregon                                 |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Maryland                     |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |U.Conn             |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Temple             |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |U.Conn   |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- U.Conn   |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |UCLA     |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Miss.                        |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Utah               |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Utah     |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |UCLA     |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Indiana            |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA     |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |Arkansas
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
--------------------- Georgetown                                       |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |Mich. St.                              |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
--------------------- Mich. St.|         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |NC                           |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Florida            |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |NC       |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- NC       |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |Kentucky           |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
--------------------- Arizona                      |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Oklahoma           |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Oklahoma |         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |Kentucky |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Tulane             |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |Kentucky |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Kentucky |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |Arkansas |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
--------------------- Loisville                              |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |Purdue                       |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- Purdue   |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |Arkansas           |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
--------------------- Syracuse           |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Arkansas |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Arkansas |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |Arkansas |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
--------------------- Arizona                      |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |Arizona            |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
--------------------- Virginia |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |Kansas   |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- Mich.              |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |Kansas   |
16.Colgate                     |---------
--------------------- Kansas   |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
302.150my guessesPOLAR::RICHARDSONbouncy bouncyThu Mar 16 1995 14:52135
    
11.Illinois
---------------------  Illinois
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |Villanova
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- Villanova|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
----- ----------------                   |UMass    
10.Stanford                              |---------
---------------------  NC-Charlotte      |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          | UMass   |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
---------------------  UMass   |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |Wake F.    
12.Penn                                            |---------
---------------------  Alabama                     |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          | Alabama           |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- Okla St  |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | Wake F. |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
---------------------  Minnesota         |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |Wake F.  |                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
---------------------  Wake F. |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |UCLA
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
---------------------  Oregon                                |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | Maryland                    |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    | UConn             |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  Temple            |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | UConn   |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  UConn   |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |UCLA     |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
---------------------  Miss St.                    |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |  Miss St.         |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Utah    |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    | UCLA    |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
---------------------  Missouri          |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
---------------------  UCLA    |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |Kentucky
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       | 
---------------------  Georgetown                                      |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          | Mich St.                              |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
---------------------  Mich St.|         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    | North Carolina              |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
---------------------  Florida           |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | N. Carol|         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------  N. Carol|                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | Kentucky          |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
---------------------  Arizona St                  |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Arizona St         |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  Oklahoma|         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |Kentucky |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  Tulane            |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |Kentucky |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
---------------------  Kentucky|                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |Kentucky |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
---------------------  Memphis                               |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          | Purdue                      |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
---------------------  Purdue  |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | Purdue            |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
---------------------  Syracuse          |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Arkansas |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
---------------------  Arkansas|                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              | Kansas  |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
---------------------  Arizona                     |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          | Arizona           |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
---------------------  Virginia|         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |  Kansas |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
---------------------  Michigan          |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |  Kansas |
16.Colgate                     |---------
---------------------  Kansas  |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
    
302.151What the heck...SHRCTR::DAVISThu Mar 16 1995 14:57135
11.Illinois
--------------------- Tulsa
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |Villanova
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- Villanova|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |UMass
10.Stanford                              |---------
--------------------- NC-Charlotte       |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |UMass    |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
--------------------- UMass    |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              | UMass
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Alabama                      |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |OSU                |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- OSU      |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |WF       |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- St. Louis          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |WF       |                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
--------------------- WF       |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |UMass
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
--------------------- Oregon                                 |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Maryland                     |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |Maryland           |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Temple             |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |Temple   |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- UConn    |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |UCLA     |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Miss.                        |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Miss.              |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Utah     |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |UCLA     |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Indiana            |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA     |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |Umass
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
--------------------- George                                           |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |George                                 |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
--------------------- Mich. St.|         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |NC                           |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Iowa St            |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |NC       |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- NC       |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |NC                 |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
--------------------- Arizona St.                  |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |OK                 |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Oklahoma |         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |Kentucky |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Tulane             |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |Kentucky |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Kentucky |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |Kansas   |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
--------------------- Loisville                              |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |Purdue                       |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- Purdue   |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |Purdue             |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
--------------------- Syracuse           |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Arkansas |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Arkansas |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |Kansas   |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
--------------------- Arizona                      |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |Arizona            |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
--------------------- Virginia |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |Kansas   |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- Mich.              |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |Kansas   |
16.Colgate                     |---------
--------------------- Kansas   |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
    
302.152CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantThu Mar 16 1995 15:3312
    Mich. St. will be victorious.  
    
    Go right through for MSU
    Watch the points keep growing!
    Spartan teams are bound to win 
    They're fighting with a vim! 
    Rah! Rah! Rah! Rah!
    
    See their team is weakening,
    we're going to win this game! 
    Fight! Fight! Fight team fight!
    Victory for MSU!
302.153POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Mar 16 1995 17:006
    
    um Brian, They won't even get past N.Carolina. Sorry to burst your
    bubble, but Arkansas, Kentucky or UCLA will win it all.
    
    ImO
    Mark
302.154CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Thu Mar 16 1995 17:253
    re: .148
    
    No problem.  8^)
302.155lots of games to go, thank goodnessCSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Thu Mar 16 1995 17:3116
    The first three teams to be bumped out of the tourney are:
    
    Arizona  (ugh!)
    Oklahoma (yikes!)
    NC A&T (a no brainer)
    
    
    So, if you picked Miami (I almost picked them, but didn't), Wake Forest
    (you were an idiot if you didn't), and Manhattan (who I never gave a
    second thought to), you are 3 for 3.
    
    If you made normal picks (like me), you are 1 for 3.  This is my worst
    start in recent memory of the tourney.  <sigh>
    
    
    -steve
302.156POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Mar 16 1995 17:435
    
    well Steve, there are always a couple of upsets in every first round
    game. Thank God I didn't have Arizona or Oklahoma winning round 2.
    
    Mark
302.157Early results - with some surprisesREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterThu Mar 16 1995 18:026
        Wake Forest beats North Carolina A&T, 79-47.
        Miami (Ohio) beats Arizona, 71-62.
        Manhattan beats Oklahoma, 77-67.

ME
302.158CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantThu Mar 16 1995 18:375
    No Mark, no bubble burst.  Just a show of alma mater pride was all.  In
    the grand order of things, I could actually care less being a
    non-fan of most things sporting.  This is not to be construed as
    contempt for those that do care however.  
    Brian
302.159CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Thu Mar 16 1995 18:4415
    At the half: 
    
    Virginia    - 31
    Nicholls St.- 27 
    
    
    St. Louis- 38
    Minnesoda- 25
    
    
    Arizona St. up 10+ over Ball St. (didn't catch the score)
    
    
                                                             
    -steve (who has a tv stashed away nearby...)
302.160POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinThu Mar 16 1995 18:588
    
    Thanks for the update Steve, come on St Louis  and Virginia.
    
    
    Brian, just kidding with you, wouldn't mind terribly if Mich St made
    it to the regional finals.
    
    Mark
302.162CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Thu Mar 16 1995 19:217
    Oops, sorry.  I figgured everyone would have had their picks done by
    the time the first game tipped off.
    
    I'll put the rest of my updates (today's) behind a <FF>.
    
    
    -steve
302.163But my picks are here alreadyREFINE::KOMARThe karaoke masterThu Mar 16 1995 19:343
Won't do anything for those who use XNotes, like me.

ME
302.165still a bad day, point-wise...CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Thu Mar 16 1995 20:0013
    More updates (last ones for the day, I imagine):
    
    
    St. Louis- 64  Minnesota- 61 (in OT)
    
    UConn- 100  Tenn-Chatt- 71
    
    Virginia- 96  Nicholls St.- 72
    
    Arizona St.- 81  Ball St.- 66
    
    
    -steve 
302.166Just as soon as I print everyone's bracketsREFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Thu Mar 16 1995 20:145
I'll post the pool standings as well as the new bracket tomorrow morning.

Good night!

ME
302.167results of day ONECSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 17 1995 11:32135
11.Illinois
---------------------
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |
14.Old Dominion                |---------
---------------------          |         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |
10.Stanford                              |---------
---------------------                    |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
---------------------          |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Alabama                      |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- Ok. St.  |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- St. Louis          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
--------------------- Wake     |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
--------------------- Texas                                  |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Cincinnati         |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- UConn    |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
---------------------                              |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
---------------------                                                  |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
--------------------- Ariz. St.                    |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Manhattan|         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Tulane             |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Kentucky |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
---------------------                                        |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |                             |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
--------------------- Miami                        |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |                   |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
--------------------- Virginia |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- W.Kent.            |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |         |
16.Colgate                     |---------
--------------------- Kansas   |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
                               
302.168Here are the results of our picksREFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 11:4212
Since Steve beat me with the brackets, I'll post the points for us

BATTIS		- 12
KOMAR		- 12
DAVIS		- 11
LEECH		- 11
RICHARDSON	- 10
LAUER		-  9
J_OPPELT	-  9
LICEA_KANE	-  7

ME
302.169CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 17 1995 11:4919
    I have 12 points.  
    
    
    Kansas
    Virginia
    Kentucky
    Tulane
    Arizona St.
    Wake
    St. Louis
    Alabama
    Oklahoma St.
    Maryland
    Cinncinnati
    UConn
    
    
    Not that I'm following very closely or anything...   8^)
                
302.170March SnarfPOBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Mar 17 1995 12:251
    
302.171CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 17 1995 12:2812
    I seem to have 12 points on all of my pools...different picks
    on each one notwithstanding.  Strange how that works out.  
    
    Maybe I'll do better today.  12 of 16 is hopelessly average and I'm
    probably behind in the pool that counts already.  
    
    For those who think one point is not a big deal, I was "dis-placed"
    from last years pool by a couple of points (2 or 3), and took second a 
    few years back, one point behind first.
    
    
    -steve
302.172POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesFri Mar 17 1995 13:312
    
    Isn't it one point per game?  I'm 10 and 6.  Gimme my point 8^).
302.173REFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 14:2910
Yikes!!!

Seems that I may be shortchanging people.

Must have been those late games that discombobulated me...not only that, but they 
threw me off.

I'll go through the brackets one more time later.

ME
302.174CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 17 1995 14:311
    Don't worry, we'll keep you honest.  8^) 
302.175POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Mar 17 1995 14:404
    
    well judge  I'm deeply discompointed with you.
    
    Mark
302.176REFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 14:4214
Double checked the results

KOMAR      - 12
BATTIS     - 12
LEECH      - 12
DAVIS      - 11
LAUER      - 10
RICHARDSON - 10
J_OPPELT   -  9
LICEA_KANE -  8

Sorry about that - those late games did me in :-)

ME
302.177But what do I know....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftFri Mar 17 1995 14:594
    
    I get 7, not 8.
    
    								-mr. bill
302.178REFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 15:386
I think you had 8 - but I did have 7 in the first check of them.

Anyway, in reality these sstandings don't mean that much as there
are plenty of points yet to be played.

ME
302.179REFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 17:436
Some early winners:

Iowa St. over Florida
Syracuse over S. Illinois

ME
302.180Can I play?ODIXIE::ZOGRANNeural net needs new stringFri Mar 17 1995 17:538
    Meester Judge,

    Can I post my picks that were entered in the ::SPORTS note?  They were
    entered prior to 12 noon yesterday.  If I could figure out how to move
    them from one note to another I'd do it.  You can check to make sure
    that I did not cheat (I'm 12 - 7 so far).  Trust me.

    Dan
302.181The Dome Ranger strikes again!REFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 17:5513
>CSOA1::LEECH "Go Hogs!"

	Care to make a little wager on the probable Syracuse-Arkansas 2nd round 
game (SU is in - Arkansas chould win)?

	If I win - you have to change your p-name to something that roots for
Syracuse
	If you win - I have to change my p-name to something that roots for
Arkansas

	How 'bout it Steve?

ME
302.183POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Mar 17 1995 17:577
    
    Judge
    
    I'll take that wager if Steve doesn't  as I have the hogs going all
    the way too.
    
    Mark
302.184REFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 17:5710
RE: .180

	I'll let you - provide you keep the header.

	Just extract it from sports, and reply over here.

	Results will be checked by me (and I'm sure everyone else will 
check me :-) )

ME
302.185REFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 17:585
RE: .183

You're on!

ME
302.186mood is getting better now 8^)CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 17 1995 18:0512
    I'll take that wager.
    
    
    I may have to delete my last flame as the meeting in my conf. room
    seems to be a short one.  I may yet get to see a glimpse of my team. 
    If you see it disappear, you'll know why.
    
    I still find the action inconsiderate, but it would seem that it is
    only so for a short period of time (half-hour), which isn't too bad.
    
    
    -steve
302.187CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 17 1995 18:0821
    Geez...this day is starting out as bad as yesterday.  I'm 1 for 3 early
    on...AGAIN.
    
    
    Syracuse- 96  
    S. Illinois- 92   (my only good pick thus far)
    
    
    Stanford- 70
    UNC Charlotte- 68
    
    
    Iowa St.- 64
    Florida- 61
    
    
    [reposted without flame...I'm feeling better now...I don't want to go
    on the cart...I fell happy ...etc.]
    
    
    -steve  
302.188I'm 3-3REFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 18:137
> I fell happy

As long as you didn't hurt yourself. :-)

What about the bet, Steve?

ME
302.189I'm 3-3 as wellPOBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Mar 17 1995 18:161
    
302.190Hope this works!ODIXIE::ZOGRANNeural net needs new stringFri Mar 17 1995 18:211
    
302.191Maybe this time!ODIXIE::ZOGRANNeural net needs new stringFri Mar 17 1995 18:221
    
302.192ODIXIE::ZOGRANNeural net needs new stringFri Mar 17 1995 18:273
    HELP!  How do I move one note to another?
    
    Dan
302.193CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 17 1995 18:2820
    Bet is on.  
    
    Arkansas is currently up 15 with the ball with a few minutes to go in
    the first half.
    
    An interesting score (to say the least) at half is:
    
    North Carolina- 41
    
    Murray St.- 44
    
    
    I picked NC in all my pools, but I have to root for the underdog here. 
    
    The right half of my sheet (East/West), which was perfect through day
    one gets marred with the Stanford win (those weenies!).
    
    
    
    -steve
302.194POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Mar 17 1995 18:345
    
    er Steve, N.Carolina will dispatch the Racers in the second half.
    Love that Arkansas score though!!! Go Hogs!
    
    Mark
302.195CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 17 1995 18:4113
    The last fraction of a second tip-in for Murray St. was taken
    away...officials overturned the orginal ruling (it was a good call, I
    saw the replay- time and horn had definitely gone off before the tip).
    
    Halftime score was 42-41 Murray St.
    
    
    Current score is:
    
    51-45  Murray St. (who had the ball when I was walking by)
    
    
    Go Murray!  8^)
302.196Keeping fingers crossed!ODIXIE::ZOGRANNeural net needs new stringFri Mar 17 1995 19:04146
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11.Illinois
---------------------
 6.Tulsa             |-Tulsa-
---------------------          |
14.Old Dominion                |--Nova----
                               |         |
 3. Villanova        |--Nova-- |         |
---------------------                    |
10.Stanford                              |---Mass---
---------------------                    |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |--NCC----          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
15.St. Peters                  |--Mass---          |
---------------------          |                   |
 2.UMass             |--Mas----                    |
---------------------                              |
12.Penn                                            |---Wake---
---------------------                              |         |
 5.Alabama           |--Bama---                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13.Drexel                      |--Bama---          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |--OSU----          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |--Wake---          |
---------------------                    |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---St. L-          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |--Wake---                    |
---------------------          |                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |--Wake---                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |----Terps-
11.Texas                                                     |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
 6.Oregon            |---Or----                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |Terps----                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |--Terps--          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Temple                                |-Terps---          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |--Temple-                    |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---Ucon--          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---UCon--                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---Terps-          |
---------------------                              |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---Miss S                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---Miss--          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |--Utah---          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |--UCLA---                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
 8.Missouri          |--Ind----          |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
16.Fla. International          |--UCLA---                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |--UCLA---                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |TERPS--
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
---------------------                                                  |
 6.Georgetown        |--G'Town-                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
14.Weber St.                   |-G'Town--                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---MS----          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Florida                               |--UNC----                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---Iowa S-         |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |--UNC----          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |--UNC ---                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
12.Ball St.                                        |---KY----          |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |--ASU----                    |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |--ASU----          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---OK----          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |-KY------          |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |--BYU----          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |-KY------                    |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---KY----                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |---KY----
11.Louisville                                                |
---------------------                                        |
 6.Memphis           |---Mem---                              |
---------------------          |                             |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---Pur---                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---Pur---          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.S. Illinois                           |--Ark----          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---Syr---          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---Ark---          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |----Ark--                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---UVA----
---------------------                              |
 5.Arizona           |-----AZ--                    |
---------------------          |                   |
13.Nicholls St                 |-UVA-----          |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |--UVA----          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 9.Michigan                              |--UVA----
---------------------                    |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---MI----          |
---------------------          |         |
16.Colgate                     |---KS----
---------------------          |
 1.Kansas            |---KS----
---------------------
    

    
                                                                              
302.197POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Mar 17 1995 19:222
    
    any update on the N.Carolina or Arkansas score?
302.198CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 17 1995 19:2910
    NC up 5 with 54 seconds to go.
    
    Every time I walk by I just miss the Ark. score, but they were down 1
    in the second half when I saw it last.  (did they put in the third
    string or something?)
    
    Texas Southern is far from a powerhouse team... (sigh)
    
    
    -steve
302.199POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Mar 17 1995 19:442
    
    Did Arkansas pull it out, I gots to know?
302.200hog snarfPOBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinFri Mar 17 1995 19:451
    
302.201REFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 19:524
If Arkansas lost, you guys should change your p-names to something
rooting for Texas Southern (or Syracuse if they win in the 2nd round.

ME
302.202HTHODIXIE::ZOGRANNeural net needs new stringFri Mar 17 1995 19:546
    UNC 80  Murray St. 70
    Ark 79  Tex So. 78
    Utah 76 Long Beach 64
    
    Dan (15 - 6)
    
302.203CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 17 1995 19:587
    I've missed 6 already with 8 games to go in the first round.  Not a
    very promising start.
    
    My main team squeaks by to win over a doink team by 1 point.  Not good. 
    Not good at all.
    
    -steve
302.204REFINE::KOMARLet's go Orange!!!!!Fri Mar 17 1995 19:593
Hope your not re-thinking our bet now :-)

ME
302.205ODIXIE::ZOGRANNeural net needs new stringFri Mar 17 1995 20:083
    UMass won
    
    Dan
302.206WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Mar 20 1995 09:585
    the big ouch of the series... what? no time outs left (Syracuse).
    
    that's gotta smart!
    
    Chip
302.207The bracket so farREFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyMon Mar 20 1995 10:48131
11.Illinois
--------------------- Tulsa
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |Tulsa
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- O. Domin.|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |
10.Stanford                              |---------
--------------------- Stanford           |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |UMass    |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
--------------------- UMass    |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Alabama                      |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |Okla St.           |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- Okla St. |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- St. Louis          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |W. Forest|                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
--------------------- W. Forest|                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
--------------------- Texas                                  |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Maryland                     |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Cincinatti         |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |UConn    |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- UConn    |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Miss. St.                    |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Miss. St.          |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Utah     |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Missouri           |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA     |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
--------------------- Georgetown                                       |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |Georgetown                             |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
--------------------- Weber St.|         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Iowa St.           |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |UNC      |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- UNC      |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
--------------------- Arizona St.                  |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Arizona St.        |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Manhattan|         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Tulane             |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |Kentucky |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Kentucky |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
--------------------- Memphis                                |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |Memphis                      |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- Purdue   |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
--------------------- Syracuse           |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Arkansas |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Arkansas |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
--------------------- Miami (Ohio)                 |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |Virginia           |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
--------------------- Virginia |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- W. Kentucky        |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |Kansas   |
16.Colgate                     |---------
--------------------- Kansas   |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
302.208The standings so far...REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyMon Mar 20 1995 10:5013
These are the current standings

Komar		- 51
Battis		- 50
Zogran		- 48
Davis		- 44
Richardson	- 43
Leech		- 43
J_Oppelt	- 41
Lauer		- 38
Licea-Kane	- 16

ME
302.209REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyMon Mar 20 1995 10:527
	I just can't believe Syracuse let me down like that (even
though I did pick Arkansas).  Now I'm stuck with this p-name :-)

I'm changing it when Arkansas loses or the tournament ends, whichever
comes first.

ME
302.210CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Mar 20 1995 11:3512
    Too bad for Syracuse, almost pulled off the big upset (though I'm not
    too unhappy about it, personally  8^) ).  Arkansas threw the game away
    to them and they went and returned the favor.
    
    I don't have much confidence in the hogs at this point.  The only sheet
    that I'm doing half decent on (relative to my spoiler sheet) has
    Arkansas winning it all.  They better get their act together quick! 
    Memphis is no slouch.  Personally, I'd like to see them beat Memphis by
    about 30+...I picked Purdue on my sheet.  <grumble>
    
    
    -steve
302.211POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinMon Mar 20 1995 17:596
    
    Arkansas scares the s*** out of me, the way they are playing. In my 
    brothers pool, I'm in first by 1 point. He has Kentucky winning and
    I have Arkansas. I like his chances based on play so far.
    
    Mark
302.212CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Mar 20 1995 18:1214
    I agree...Kentucky has looked a LOT better in this tourney.
    
    One thing for sure, you never know what Arkansas will do.  They can
    play with any team out there and score at will (if you'd seen the Ar/Ky
    game before the tourney, Arkansas went up by 20 in no time flat before
    getting too tentative on offense...shortening the game is never in
    their best interest, they don't play well that way).
    
    I'm just wondering how big a lead on Memphis they will get before they
    follow their troublesome pattern of carelessness.  Hopefully, it will
    be enough.
    
    
    -steve
302.213REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyMon Mar 20 1995 20:218
Kentucky has looked well, but a team that I consider a sleeper now is Tulsa.

Tulsa has the kind of style that can drive coaches nuts.  The love to run up
and down the floor and take lots of 3s.  Umass better not take this team too
lightly if they want to advance.  Of cource, with Villanova gone, I need a Tulsa
win.

ME
302.214CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Tue Mar 21 1995 17:4117
    Villanova was my sleeper pick for the final four on my spoiler sheet
    (and on my soapbox sheet, which is very similar to my spoiler sheet).  
    
    On my "real" pick sheet, I still have all final 8 teams alive...amazing
    considering how many 1st & 2nd round upsets there were (and how many I
    missed...I'm sitting on 43 points right now).  If all 8 teams I picked
    to win manage to win, I should be right back in the game.  8^)
    
    Somehow, judgeing by the way things are going, I don't think this will
    happen, but I will keep my fingers crossed.  8^)
    
    
    
    Stick a fork in me for the soapbox pool...I'm done.
    
    
    -steve
302.215CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Mar 21 1995 17:453
    	I need to see Ok. St. make it to the final 4 to have a shot.
    
    	I'm glad I didn't put any money on this...
302.216REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyTue Mar 21 1995 18:458
	I'd prefer to see Tulsa make the Final 4.

	I want the Wake Forest points.

	For all those behind me ... wait, that's everybody :-) ...
These next rounds are worth 4 and 8 points.  Everyone can get back into it.

ME
302.217CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Tue Mar 21 1995 19:5313
    I'm not likely to back into this one.  Like Joe, I'm glad I didn't put
    any money on it.  8^)
    
    My sheet here at work is the only one with possibilities, though I am 7
    points behind the leader(s).  I could really use a 32 point round, I
    could.
    
    
    At least I won't be trying to watch the games on my tiny (squint tv
    [tm]) 13" toob come this Thursday.  Back to the bedroom with it.
    
    
    -steve
302.218POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinWed Mar 22 1995 14:447
    
    well with 7 out 8 teams still alive for me, I know I'm sure as hell
    in it. Though in my real pool i picked UConn over maryland, and vice 
    versa in Soapbox. I'm in first by one slim point, hope I can hang on
    for some loot.
    
    Mark
302.219Wish I were in your other poolREFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyWed Mar 22 1995 15:424
But in the Soapbox pool, you are down by 1 point, and that, Mark, is
the pool that counts. :-)

ME
302.220POLAR::RICHARDSONKFC and tandem potty tricksWed Mar 22 1995 15:431
    Mark has two pools?
302.2218^)POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesWed Mar 22 1995 15:452
    
    Party at Mark's house!
302.222REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyWed Mar 22 1995 15:453
Maybe one of them is a kiddie pool. :-)

ME
302.223POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinWed Mar 22 1995 16:496
    
    well judge, my real pool pays cash, Soapbox doesn't. Plus I have 65
    points in the other pool. As for two pools, why do you think I have
    pool cues?
    
    Mark
302.224REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyWed Mar 22 1995 17:295
	How do you have 65 points in a pool?  Do they give more than 32
points/round.  Since there have only been two rounds, the max you could 
have is 64 points.

ME
302.225POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinWed Mar 22 1995 17:357
    
    oops 66 points. 1 point for 1st round games 3 points for 2nd round
    games. 14-16 in round two = 42. 24-8 in first round = 24. 66 total.
    
    capice
    
    Mark
302.226REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyWed Mar 22 1995 17:523
	That explains it. :-)

ME (I'm still gonna win the Soapbox pool)
302.227POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesWed Mar 22 1995 18:012
    
    Seems suspicious that he who is running the pool also wins 8^))).
302.228POLAR::RICHARDSONKFC and tandem potty tricksWed Mar 22 1995 18:141
    Komar is the pool man?
302.2298^)POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesWed Mar 22 1995 18:162
    
    Party at Komar's house!
302.230CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Wed Mar 22 1995 18:286
    What time do the games start on Thursday?  Are there any games on
    Friday and Sunday?  There are only 8 games for Thu-Sun, and I'm
    not sure how they are spread out.
    
    
    -steve
302.231POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinWed Mar 22 1995 19:359
    
    Steve, there are 4 each on Thursday and Friday night. Then 2 each on 
    Saturday and Sunday. I believe the games will 7:00 and 9:00 or
    thereabouts.
    
    Judge, you are wrong, I will win the Soapbox tournament and be heralded
    in the box forever as NCAA king, or some such nonsense.
    
    Mark
302.232REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyWed Mar 22 1995 19:5017
Here is the schedule for Thursday - Sunday:

Thursday:
7:30-12:30 - Southeast and West semifinals

Friday:
7:30-12:30 - East and Midwest semifinals

Saturday:
3:30-8:00 - Southeast and West finals

Sunday
2:30-7:00 - East and Midwest finals

Hope this helps

ME
302.233Go TerpsODIXIE::ZOGRANCreative Pretzel Eaters ClubThu Mar 23 1995 12:555
    Here in Hotlanta they are showing the KY - ASU game instead of my Terps
    vs UConn at 10:30.  Oh well, I'm sure they'll update the score and go
    to the game itself if the KY game is a blowout.
    
    Dan
302.234The current bracketREFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyFri Mar 24 1995 11:49131
11.Illinois
--------------------- Tulsa
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |Tulsa
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- O. Domin.|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |
10.Stanford                              |---------
--------------------- Stanford           |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |UMass    |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
--------------------- UMass    |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Alabama                      |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |Okla St.           |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- Okla St. |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- St. Louis          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |W. Forest|                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
--------------------- W. Forest|                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
--------------------- Texas                                  |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Maryland                     |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |UConn              |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Cincinatti         |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |UConn    |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- UConn    |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Miss. St.                    |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Miss. St.          |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Utah     |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |UCLA     |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Missouri           |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA     |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
--------------------- Georgetown                                       |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |Georgetown                             |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
--------------------- Weber St.|         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |UNC                          |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Iowa St.           |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |UNC      |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- UNC      |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
--------------------- Arizona St.                  |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Arizona St.        |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Manhattan|         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |Kentucky |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Tulane             |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |Kentucky |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Kentucky |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
--------------------- Memphis                                |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |Memphis                      |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- Purdue   |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
--------------------- Syracuse           |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Arkansas |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Arkansas |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
--------------------- Miami (Ohio)                 |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |Virginia           |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
--------------------- Virginia |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- W. Kentucky        |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |Kansas   |
16.Colgate                     |---------
--------------------- Kansas   |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
302.235REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyFri Mar 24 1995 11:5513
Here are the current standings...

Komar		- 63
Battis		- 62
Zogran		- 60
Leech		- 59
Richardson	- 59
J_Oppelt	- 57
Davis		- 56
Lauer		- 54
Licea-Kane	- 16

ME
302.236CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 24 1995 11:571
    I'm closing in on you, judge!  8^) 
302.237ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Fri Mar 24 1995 12:075
Steve,

Why don't you teach the judge to spell Cincinnati correctly?

Bob
302.238CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 24 1995 12:195
    Hey judge, 
    
    It's CincinNati (two n's, one t...not one n and two t's).
    
    Good enough, Bob?  8^)
302.239Still in there....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftFri Mar 24 1995 12:514
   
   If UMASS makes it to the final four, I finish with 28 points.
   
   								-mr. bill
302.240CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 24 1995 13:201
    That's the spirit, mr. bill.   8^)
302.241CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 24 1995 18:5813
    Any guesses as to how Arkansas will play tonight?  Will they follow
    their current trent of getting a huge lead only to squabble it away and
    then squeak to the next round via an act of God; or will they play the
    entire game?
    
    They have been less than impressive so far, and I have them picked to
    go all the way.  
    
    I fully expect another nail-biter tonight, but hope that they win by
    about 20...sure would make me feel better about my picks.
    
    
    -steve
302.242REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyFri Mar 24 1995 19:285
	I think they played Memphis in the regular season and the game was 
close.  I suspect it will be a tight game.  Everyone guns for the champion 
when they attempt to repeat.

ME
302.243CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Sat Mar 25 1995 02:0511



 Not being a loyal follower of college basketball, I've watched a little
 over the last few days, and I have a question...why does each team have
 one player who wears a T shirt under his jersey?



 Jim
302.244REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyMon Mar 27 1995 11:543
    	The guy with the t-shirt under his jersey sweats too much. :-)
    
    ME
302.245Current bracketsREFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyMon Mar 27 1995 11:54131
11.Illinois
--------------------- Tulsa
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |Tulsa
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- O. Domin.|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |UMass
10.Stanford                              |---------
--------------------- Stanford           |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |UMass    |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
--------------------- UMass    |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |Oklahoma St
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Alabama                      |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |Okla St.           |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- Okla St. |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |Okla St. |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- St. Louis          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |W. Forest|                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
--------------------- W. Forest|                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
--------------------- Texas                                  |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Maryland                     |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |UConn              |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Cincinatti         |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |UConn    |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- UConn    |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |UCLA     |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Miss. St.                    |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Miss. St.          |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Utah     |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |UCLA     |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Missouri           |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA     |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
--------------------- Georgetown                                       |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |Georgetown                             |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
--------------------- Weber St.|         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |UNC                          |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Iowa St.           |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |UNC      |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- UNC      |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |North Carolina     |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
--------------------- Arizona St.                  |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Arizona St.        |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Manhattan|         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |Kentucky |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Tulane             |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |Kentucky |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Kentucky |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
--------------------- Memphis                                |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |Memphis                      |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- Purdue   |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |Arkansas           |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
--------------------- Syracuse           |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Arkansas |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Arkansas |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |Arkansas |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
--------------------- Miami (Ohio)                 |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |Virginia           |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
--------------------- Virginia |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |Virginia |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- W. Kentucky        |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |Kansas   |
16.Colgate                     |---------
--------------------- Kansas   |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
302.246Updated standingsREFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyMon Mar 27 1995 11:5713
    Lots of changes over the weekend:
    
    Battis	- 82
    J_Oppelt	- 81
    Lauer	- 78
    Davis	- 76
    Komar	- 75
    Zogran	- 72
    Leech	- 71
    Richardson	- 71
    Licea-Kane	- 20
    
    ME
302.247"Big Country" was impressive...GAAS::BRAUCHERMon Mar 27 1995 13:398
    
    How much does Bryant Reeves weigh ?  At 7-2, he still looks like a
    brick.  Some of his Stanislavskis defy the laws of physics.  Some
    guard nicks him and ho goes down in a heap.  Can the Detroit Pistons
    draft him as "the next Laimbeer" ?
    
      bb
    
302.248POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinMon Mar 27 1995 13:474
    
    he weighs 292 lbs.
    
    Mark
302.249CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Mar 27 1995 13:4913
    Arkansas looked a bit better against Virginia than they have in the
    previous two games.  I guess they only play well against the good
    teams? (or play just hard enough to win?)  8^)
    
    UConn let me down.  In the pool here at work, I picked 6 of the final
    8, but unfortunately, ended up losing 3 of the final four picks.  UConn
    hurt the most, as I had them as a finalist with Arkansas beating them
    in the final game.  
    
    I'm as good as out, now.  8^(
    
    
    -steve
302.250CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Mar 27 1995 14:4411
    After checking out the current 'score card' of entries, I see that I am
    not out of the running yet.
    
    If Arkansas beats NC and Oklahoma St. beats UCLA, I'll get third...the
    final game doesn't matter unless UCLA is in it (then Arkansas would
    have to win).
    
    Happy happy joy joy...at least until next week.  8^)
    
    
    -steve
302.251BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeMon Mar 27 1995 14:484


	How much $$$$ ya got riding on this??? :-)
302.252ROWLET::AINSLEYRest In Peace, PeterMon Mar 27 1995 15:384
Why do they drag this thing out???  Why don't they just play the games and get
it over with?

Bob
302.253SimplePERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Mar 27 1995 15:434
    
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    
    								-mr. bill
302.254Call MCSROWLET::AINSLEYRest In Peace, PeterMon Mar 27 1995 15:455
re: .253

Their $ key is stuck???  Is that why they take so long?

Bob
302.255SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIYap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!Mon Mar 27 1995 15:569
    
    
    
    Mr. Leech?????
    
    Might you want to change the title of this note to:
    
    
    March/April Madness
302.256march/april madnessCSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Mar 27 1995 17:121
    It would be appropriate, I suppose.
302.257CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Mar 27 1995 17:1410
    re: .251
    
    Glen, I pitched my $5/sheet into the pot like everyone else.  If I do
    end up getting lucky and taking 3rd (if Arkansas wins), I will take
    home $55.  
    
    Remind me not to play a spoiler sheet next year...
    
    
    -steve
302.258CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Mon Mar 27 1995 17:193

 Any serious answers to .243 so I can sleep tonight? ;-)
302.259BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeMon Mar 27 1995 18:2410
| <<< Note 302.257 by CSOA1::LEECH "Go Hogs!" >>>

| Glen, I pitched my $5/sheet into the pot like everyone else. If I do end up 
| getting lucky and taking 3rd (if Arkansas wins), I will take home $55.

	Gambler! :-)  



Glen
302.260CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Mar 27 1995 20:004
    To be honest, it's not really the money (though it would be nice to
    win), it is the added excitement that the pool adds to the tourney. 
    Games that would normally mean nothing to me are now worth "points", and 
    are a bit more fun to watch (it's nice having a team to root for).  8^)
302.261POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinMon Mar 27 1995 20:447
    
    .243
    
    Well Jim Georgetown started that craze years ago, now almost all the
    teams have players doing it. Fad, kind of a thing.
    
    Mark
302.262CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Mon Mar 27 1995 20:4510



 Who's Jim  Georgetown?




 ;-)
302.263POBOX::BATTISContract StudmuffinTue Mar 28 1995 12:455
    
    well it looks like Joe and mz_debra, are hot on my trail!!! Good luck
    to you both over the weekend.
    
    Mark
302.264SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIYap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!Tue Mar 28 1995 13:4817
    
    RE: .243
    
    Jim,
    
     Mark's right (Partially)
    
    What happened was that a player on Georgetown had a really bad
    cold/flu/whatever and officials allowed him to wear a t-shirt under 
    his regular uniform...
    
      Once the precedent was set, they had to allow others who complained
    of colds etc. or drafty gyms...
    
    
     Andy
    
302.265CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Mar 28 1995 19:0624
    	re .260
    
    	It's not the money (if that even matters).  For most people,
    	who cares much about a game between North Carolina and Arkansas,
    	for instance...
    
    	I really wouldn't.  But for me in this particular pool, I have
    	UCLA to win it all, and most others have Arkansas.  Now I have
    	a reason to favor one school over the other.
    
    	If you ever went to Jai Alai, it often works the same way.  
    
    	re .263 POBOX::BATTIS
    
>    well it looks like Joe and mz_debra, are hot on my trail!!! Good luck
>    to you both over the weekend.
    
	Mark --
    
    	You and mz_debra have the same picks from here on in if I read
    	things correctly.
    
    	You are in the driver's seat.  If UCLA wins it all, I win the 
    	pool.  All other scenarios give you the win, I believe.
302.266CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Tue Mar 28 1995 20:0010
    Joe, 
    
    It would seem your Ok. St. pick wasn't as crazy as I thought it was
    when I first saw it.  I never would have guessed that they would beat
    Wake Forest, then UMass.  They didn't fare very well last year.
    
    No offense, but I'll be rootin' for Ok. St.  8^)
    
    
    -steve
302.267CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Mar 28 1995 21:556
    	Believe it or not, I picked Oklahoma State because just last 
    	month Readers Digest did an article on them about a dying kid 
    	that became their team inspiration a few years ago, and I thought
    	that resurrecting that story now would give the team an emotional
    	boost.  I was tempted to take them even further in the pool, but
    	thought that final four was crazy enough.
302.2688^)POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesThu Mar 30 1995 14:412
    
    Are there prizes?
302.269SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIThu Mar 30 1995 15:163
    
    
    You get to marry the son of Mikado...
302.2708^)POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesThu Mar 30 1995 16:082
    
    Is this a time for airy persiflage?
302.271POLAR::RICHARDSONBaloney ConvalescenceThu Mar 30 1995 21:511
    jes.
302.272POBOX::BATTISLand shark,pool sharkFri Mar 31 1995 20:094
    
    Good luck Joe on this weekends games, but not to much luck. :-)
    
    Mark
302.273CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Fri Mar 31 1995 20:113
    Go HOGS!  Go Oklahoma St.!
    
    Best of luck to all who root for these two teams this weekend.  8^)
302.274.-2CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Fri Mar 31 1995 20:111
    	Was that Mark Madness?  :^)
302.275POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesSun Apr 02 1995 14:514
    
    So with only the final left, what are the rankings?  Don't ask me to
    figure it out myself, math is hard (tm) 8^).
    
302.276CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Sun Apr 02 1995 22:514
    	As best as I can tell, if Arkansas wins, Mark Battis wins
    	the pool.  If UCLA wins, I win the pool.  That's based on
    	the previously-posted standings, and the remaining picks of 
    	those who played.
302.277POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesMon Apr 03 1995 02:353
    
    So when's the dumb game anyhoo 8^).  I don't expect to win, heck I
    didn't even expect to place or show 8^).
302.278REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyMon Apr 03 1995 11:584
    	I didn't update the standings based on the weekends games.  I will
    have the final standings tomorrow.
    
    ME
302.279I locked up the "Beetle Bomb" spot long ago....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Apr 03 1995 12:024
   
   UConn won.  So who wins the pool?
   
   								-mr. bill
302.280GAVEL::JANDROWMon Apr 03 1995 12:378
    
    
    saw the last 1/2 of the second 1/2 of the uconn/tenn game...was a good
    one...and i don't even like basketball.  am glad uconn won...specially
    totally undefeated for the year...and lobo and rizotti were wonderful...
    
    
    
302.281CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Apr 03 1995 13:093
    Yeah, but that was girlie hoops...they don't count.  8^)
    
    <duck>
302.282CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Apr 03 1995 13:105
    The men's final comes on at 8:40 eastern time this evening, according
    to morning radio.
    
    
    -steve
302.283CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Apr 03 1995 13:584
    Now, if Arkansas repeats, does ::KOMAR have to keep his p_name until
    Arkansas loses next season?  8^)
    
    -steve
302.284REFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyMon Apr 03 1995 14:006
No!

	I am changing my p-name tomorrow no matter what the 
outcome of tonight's game is.

ME
302.285CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Apr 03 1995 14:324
    I thought the bet was "until Arkansas lost".  Am I mistaken?
    
    It's not a terrible thing, hoops starts up again in what, September? 
    8^)
302.286POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesMon Apr 03 1995 14:4020
           <<< BACK40::BACK40$DKA500:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SOAPBOX.NOTE;1 >>>
                          -< Soapbox.  Just Soapbox. >-
================================================================================
Note 302.181                      March Madness                       181 of 285
REFINE::KOMAR "Let's go Orange!!!!!"                 13 lines  17-MAR-1995 14:55
                      -< The Dome Ranger strikes again! >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>CSOA1::LEECH "Go Hogs!"

	Care to make a little wager on the probable Syracuse-Arkansas 2nd round 
game (SU is in - Arkansas chould win)?

	If I win - you have to change your p-name to something that roots for
Syracuse
	If you win - I have to change my p-name to something that roots for
Arkansas

	How 'bout it Steve?

ME
302.287CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Apr 03 1995 16:265
    Shhhhhh!  You went and let the cat out of the bag now.  I almost had
    him convinced, I know it!
    
    
    ;^)
302.288You can't fool me, SteveREFINE::KOMARWhoooo! Pig SueyMon Apr 03 1995 16:4513
           <<< BACK40::BACK40$DKA500:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SOAPBOX.NOTE;1 >>>
                          -< Soapbox.  Just Soapbox. >-
================================================================================
Note 302.209                      March Madness                       209 of 287
REFINE::KOMAR "Whoooo! Pig Suey"                      7 lines  20-MAR-1995 07:52
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
	I just can't believe Syracuse let me down like that (even
though I did pick Arkansas).  Now I'm stuck with this p-name :-)

I'm changing it when Arkansas loses or the tournament ends, whichever
comes first.

ME
302.289CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Mon Apr 03 1995 17:011
    It was worth a shot.  8^)
302.290UCLA #1SMOGGY::CAROLLAWorkin' at Ground ZeroTue Apr 04 1995 03:587
    BRUINS...#1  U C L A took it to them hogs, even without Edney! 
    
    OOOOOOOHHHHHHHH MY...................Party time in LA.
    
    Mabee the Hogs coach has renewed respect for John Wooden and his
    TEN championships. Slamming Woodens championship record as "easy"
    shows he has little if any class.
302.291POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesTue Apr 04 1995 04:394
    
    Does this mean Joe Oppelt won the pool?  I'm amazed.
    
    Judge Komar?
302.292The final bracketsREFINE::KOMARThe BarbarianTue Apr 04 1995 11:53131
11.Illinois
--------------------- Tulsa
 6.Tulsa             |---------
---------------------          |Tulsa
14.Old Dominion                |---------
--------------------- O. Domin.|         |
 3.Villanova         |---------          |
---------------------                    |UMass
10.Stanford                              |---------
--------------------- Stanford           |         |
 7.NC-Charlotte      |---------          |         |
---------------------          |UMass    |         |
15.St. Peters                  |---------          |
--------------------- UMass    |                   |
 2.UMass             |---------                    |
---------------------                              |Oklahoma St
12.Penn                                            |---------
--------------------- Alabama                      |         |
 5.Alabama           |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |Okla St.           |         |
13.Drexel                      |---------          |         |
--------------------- Okla St. |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma St       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |Okla St. |         |
 9.Minnesota                             |---------          |
--------------------- St. Louis          |                   |
 8.St. Louis         |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |W. Forest|                   |
16.North Caroina A&T           |---------                    |
--------------------- W. Forest|                             |
 1.Wake Forest       |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |UCLA
                                                             |---------
11.Texas                                                     |         |
--------------------- Texas                                  |         |
 6.Oregon            |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Maryland                     |         |
14.Gonzaga                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Maryland |         |                   |         |
 3.Maryland          |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |UConn              |         |
10.Temple                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Cincinatti         |         |         |         |
 7.Cincinatti        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |UConn    |         |         |         |
15.Tenn-Chattanooga            |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- UConn    |                   |         |         |
 2.UConn             |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |UCLA     |         |
12.Santa Clara                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Miss. St.                    |                   |
 5.Mississippi St.   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Miss. St.          |                   |
13.Long Beach St.              |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Utah     |         |         |                   |
 4.Utah              |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |UCLA     |                   |
 9.Indiana                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Missouri           |                             |
 8.Missouri          |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
16.Fla. International          |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA     |                                       |
 1.UCLA              |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |UCLA
                                                                       |--------
11.Xavier (Ohio)                                                       |
--------------------- Georgetown                                       |
 6.Georgetown        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |Georgetown                             |
14.Weber St.                   |---------                              |
--------------------- Weber St.|         |                             |
 3.Michigan St.      |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |UNC                          |
10.Florida                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Iowa St.           |         |                   |
 7.Iowa St.          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |UNC      |         |                   |
15.Murray St.                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- UNC      |                   |                   |
 2.North Carolina    |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |North Carolina     |
12.Ball St.                                        |---------          |
--------------------- Arizona St.                  |         |         |
 5.Arizona St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Arizona St.        |         |         |
13.Manhattan                   |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Manhattan|         |         |         |         |
 4.Oklahoma          |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |Kentucky |         |         |
 9.Tulane                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Tulane             |                   |         |
 8.BYU               |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |Kentucky |                   |         |
16.Mt. St. Mary's              |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Kentucky |                             |         |
 1.Kentucky          |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |Arkansas |
                                                             |---------
11.Louisville                                                |
--------------------- Memphis                                |
 6.Memphis           |---------                              |
---------------------          |Memphis                      |
14.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- Purdue   |         |                   |
 3.Purdue            |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |Arkansas           |
10.S. Illinois                           |---------          |
--------------------- Syracuse           |         |         |
 7.Syracuse          |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Arkansas |         |         |
15.Tex. Southern               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Arkansas |                   |         |
 2.Arkansas          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |Arkansas |
12.Miami (Ohio)                                    |---------
--------------------- Miami (Ohio)                 |
 5.Arizona           |---------                    |
---------------------          |Virginia           |
13.Nicholls St                 |---------          |
--------------------- Virginia |         |         |
 4.Virginia          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |Virginia |
 9.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- W. Kentucky        |
 8.West. Kentucky    |---------          |
---------------------          |Kansas   |
16.Colgate                     |---------
--------------------- Kansas   |
 1.Kansas            |---------
---------------------
302.293The final standingsREFINE::KOMARThe BarbarianTue Apr 04 1995 11:5513
These are the official standings

J_OPPELT	129
BATTIS		114
LAUER		110
LEECH		 87
RICHARDSON	 87
DAVIS		 76
KOMAR		 75
ZOGRAN		 72
LICEA_KANE	 20

ME
302.294BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Apr 04 1995 14:128
| <<< Note 302.290 by SMOGGY::CAROLLA "Workin' at Ground Zero" >>>


| OOOOOOOHHHHHHHH MY...................Party time in LA.

	More like riot time in LA! :-)


302.295POLAR::RICHARDSONFan Club BaloneyTue Apr 04 1995 14:372
    Well, for a Canadian, I didn't do too bad, I beat the Judge after all.
    ;-)
302.296BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Apr 04 1995 14:408
| <<< Note 302.295 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Fan Club Baloney" >>>

| Well, for a Canadian, I didn't do too bad, I beat the Judge after all.

	Ok, I think we have enough info for a confession. The Richardson's
should be put on trial for the beating of Judge Komar. The charges brought
forth are assault, assault with a deady weapon (his minds), and 12 counts on
each. Judge Komar, will you be pressing charges?
302.297POLAR::RICHARDSONFan Club BaloneyTue Apr 04 1995 14:461
    Richardson's what?
302.298CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenTue Apr 04 1995 14:541
    I think that's what Glenn refers to his, er, you know, that thing, as.
302.299BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Apr 04 1995 14:553

	Which Glen(n) are ya referring to Brian?
302.300\BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Apr 04 1995 14:563

	March Madness is over snarf! Let the trial begin!
302.301CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenTue Apr 04 1995 14:581
    The nn Glenn versus the n Glen, Glen
302.302BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Apr 04 1995 14:591
<------say that 10 times fast!
302.303NITMOI::ARMSTRONGTue Apr 04 1995 15:037
    I thought the incredible star of the game was the freshman Bailey...
    But when the game ended, he disappeared.  I did not see him
    get interviewed or present when they awarded the trophy or
    cutting down the net or anything.

    A great game.
    bob
302.304WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceTue Apr 04 1995 15:061
    Yep- he's a player!
302.305no one stepped up for Arkansas...CSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Tue Apr 04 1995 16:1456
    I have a few comments about the game (other than my obvious
    disappointment  8^) ):
    
    1) Williamson got mugged each and every time the ball was passed inside
    to him.  Where were the whistles?  I'm not saying he was fouled *every*
    time, but I did see a few times where I thought the foul was obvious
    (and I have a big tv, so I see all  8^) ).   Without the inside game, I
    was surprised they stayed in it as long as they did.
    
    2) Arkansas inhaled on the glass, period.  UCLA out-rebounded the hogs
    50-31, I believe.  Amazing.  Second chance points killed Arkansas, and
    was their downfall.  
    
    3) I think it would have been better for the Hogs if Edney has been
    uninjured.  Perhaps then they would have gone with plan B, which is
    playing solid half-court defense, rather than continuing with a press
    that had little effect (other than for a few minutes in the first
    half).  They gave UCLA too many easy baskets.  I don't think Richardson
    respected Dollar, and thought he could cause a lot of turnovers with
    the press since Edney was out.  
    
    4) The trapping zone was working well for Arkansas, why did they go
    back to a full court press?  UCLA is well known for being great in the
    open floor.
    
    5) Arkansas missed too many easy shots. 
    
    6) UCLA looked very good defensively, and their offense was excellent. 
    Their quick passes and good ball movement really helped them to score
    against a good defensive team.
    
    
    I think that UCLA was definitely the better team last night, as they
    had Arkansas playing catch up most of the time.  Their coach did an
    excellent job with a limited bench against Arkansas' *very* deep bench. 
    A well played game for UCLA.  They were definitely prepared to win,
    Edney or no Edney, which shows the ability of the coach to motivate his
    team.
    
    Well done, UCLA.  
    
    I must admit, I'm not happy at all about the way things turned out, I
    would much rather have seen a close game going down to the wire, but
    that's the way it goes.  I don't expect Arkansas to be the same team
    next year, as they loose McDaniel, Beck, Stewart and probably one or
    two more good players.  Of course, UCLA looses O'Bannon.  8^) (at
    least, I thought they said he was a senior)
    
    I finish with only 91 points in my pool here at work, which is more
    than a few points out of the running.  At least I didn't miss placing
    by only a couple points, like I did last year (and I even picked the
    winner last year).  I now have ESPN, though, so I should do better next 
    year as I will be able to keep track of the good teams.  8^)
    
    
    -steve
302.306POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesTue Apr 04 1995 16:333
    
    Lose.  Losing.  Must I taunt you here as well 8^)?
            
302.307not a word I normally hackCSOA1::LEECHGo Hogs!Tue Apr 04 1995 16:374
    But technically I am right, they do turn a few players loose next year,
    as the seniors graduate.  8^)
    
    -steve
302.308{wry look}POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesTue Apr 04 1995 16:551
    
302.309BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Apr 04 1995 17:094

	HAAAAA Deb!  That was toooo funny. I always wondered what a wry look
looked like in da box.... :-)
302.310POBOX::BATTISLand shark,pool sharkThu Apr 06 1995 12:339
    
    Congratulations on winning the soapbox tournament Joe, you certainly
    came on strong the last week or so. UCLA handed Arkansas their heads,
    I've never seen Corliss Williamson and Scotty Thurman have such lousy
    games at the same time. I'm sure next year will be even more wide
    open than this years tournament. I'll just have to wait till next March
    to see.
    
    Mark
302.311CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Thu Apr 06 1995 17:124
    	I see next year looking more like (what I consider) a traditional
    	NCAA tournament with the tried-and-true old-time big schools
    	dominating.  North Carolina, Kentucky, UCLA, etc.  It'll be the
    	1970's revisited!
302.312CSOA1::LEECHyawnThu Apr 06 1995 21:0918
    Can UCLA get back to the final four without O'Bannon and their 7'
    center?
    
    If that freshmen plays as well next year as he did against
    Arkansas, that will certainly help.  Edney will be there, too, of
    course.  
    
    Unless they recruit a good center and forward, they won't be repeating
    next year, though.  O'Bannon (player of the year) is a BIG loss.  The
    center is replacable (Big Country gave him lessons in the semi-finals),
    though it is hard to replace senior experience that he brings with him. 
    Since UCLA was not a deep team to start with, I wonder what they will
    do.  Being national champs should boost recruitment, though.  8^)
    
    It will be an interesting year.
    
    
    -steve
302.313ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Mar 01 1996 19:404
    
    only 13 more days until the big dance starts. who will it be this
    year?? Kentucky, UMass, Kansas, UConn, or maybe even Purdue. I'm
    betting on Kentucky this year.
302.314LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsFri Mar 01 1996 19:401
    UMass.
302.315BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Mar 01 1996 19:415
    
    	Ahah ... now I feel a yawn coming on.
    
    	Thanks, Mark and Bonnie.
    
302.316SOLVIT::KRAWIECKILord of the Turnip TruckFri Mar 01 1996 20:2510
    
    re: .314
    
    Bonnie...
    
    I don't believe UMass will get past the first or second round
    
    
    You heard it here first... no matter my mental, Prozaic state...
    
302.317USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Sat Mar 02 1996 10:581
    what out for that darkhorse team, GWU
302.318ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 04 1996 11:251
    10 days and counting....  8^)
302.319ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 04 1996 12:314
    
    well after finishing second last year to Joe Oppelt, who no longer is
    here. I would have to say my chances of winning the soapbox NCAA
    tournament is looking rather good.
302.320ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 04 1996 12:394
    but I'll be using my "good" sheet, this year...  8^)
    
    last year I posted my "spoiler" sheet...which admittedly didn't work
    out well.
302.321LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsMon Mar 04 1996 12:454
    |I don't believe UMass will get past the first or second round
    
    andy, why?  they've got the stamina and momentum.  geez, how
    many games have they lost so far...is it still just one?
302.322SOLVIT::KRAWIECKILord of the Turnip TruckMon Mar 04 1996 13:2114
    
    re: .321
    
    Bonnie...
    
    >andy, why?
    
    Well... I personally don't think they've played many competative
    teams...
    
     They've been playing to their competitions level too long, and yes,
    they've been abale to rise to the occasion in the late going, but how
    long can that last vs. the better teams??
    
302.323ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 04 1996 13:551
    I'd like to see a Kentucky/UMass match about right now.  8^)  
302.324ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 04 1996 14:103
    
    while UMass beat Kentucky in the 2 or 3rd game of the season, I'd
    kinda doubt they could do it twice. Kentucky is loaded this year.
302.325ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 04 1996 17:119
    Judgeing by how the two teams have been playing the last half of the
    season, I agree with you.  I don't see UMass beating Kentucky.  I don't
    see many teams that are capable of beating Kentucky, even if Kentucky
    only has an "average" performance.  I do see several
    teams that can hand UMass a defeat, however.  Of this I will say no
    more.  8^)
    
    
    -steve
302.326The 1996 BracketsPOWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 14 1996 12:57136
 1.UConn 
---------------------
16.Colgate           |---------
---------------------          |
 8.Duke                        |---------
---------------------          |         |
 9.E Mich            |---------          |
---------------------                    |
 5.Miss State                              |---------
---------------------                    |         |
12.VCU      	     |---------          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4.UCLA                        |---------          |
---------------------          |                   |
13.Princeton         |---------                    |
---------------------                              |
 6.Indiana                     			   |---------
---------------------                              |         |
11.BC                |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |---------          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7.Temple                                |---------	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |---------                    |
---------------------          |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |---------
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16.W Carolina        |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8.Georgia                     |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5.Memphis                               |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |---------          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11.George Washington |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |---------                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |---------                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
15.SC State          |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |--------
 1.UMass                                                               |
---------------------                                                  |
16.C Florida         |---------                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8.Bradley                     |---------                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5.Penn St                               |---------                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6.N Carolina                                      |---------          |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |---------
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------                                        |
16.San Jose St.      |---------                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5.Iowa St.                              |---------          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12.California        |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |---------          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6.Louisville                                      |---------
---------------------                              |
11.Tulsa             |---------                    |
---------------------          |                   |
 3.Villanova                   |---------          |
---------------------          |         |         |
14.Portland          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7.Michigan                              |---------
---------------------                    |
10.Texas 	     |---------          |
---------------------          |         |
 2.W. Forest                   |---------
---------------------          |
15.NE La             |---------
---------------------
    
302.327NIT already startedGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseThu Mar 14 1996 13:015
    
      Heard Providence just won its first round in the NIT ?  What's
     the draw over there ?
    
      bb
302.328CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesThu Mar 14 1996 13:071
    YYYAAAAAWwwnnnnnn.......zzzzzzzzzzz
302.329ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Mar 14 1996 13:205
    Thank's for posting the brackets, Mz_Debra.  I'll post my picks
    shortly.  If I have time, I'll post my spoiler sheet, too, just for
    kicks.  8^)
    
    -steve
302.330NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Mar 14 1996 13:245
[]	square brackets
{}	curly brackets, aka braces
()	round brackers, aka parentheses

nnttm
302.331WAHOO::LEVESQUEhickory dickoryThu Mar 14 1996 13:271
    brackers?
302.332Salty loogie...SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIThu Mar 14 1996 13:281
    
302.333POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 14 1996 13:43143
    Here's my sheet behind the form feed.  Don't look if you haven't done
    yours yet!
    
    Hurry, you're running out of time.
    
    
    
 1.UConn 
---------------------
16.Colgate           |-UConn---
---------------------          |
 8.Duke                        |-UConn---
---------------------          |         |
 9.E Mich            |-Duke----          |
---------------------                    |
 5.Miss State                              |-UConn-
---------------------                    |         |
12.VCU      	     |-Miss St-          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4.UCLA                        |-Princet-          |
---------------------          |                   |
13.Princeton         |-Princet-                    |
---------------------                              |
 6.Indiana                     			   |-GA Tech-
---------------------                              |         |
11.BC                |-BC------                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |-GA Tech-          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |-GA Tech-          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7.Temple                                |-GA Tech-	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |-Cincinn-          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |-Cincinn-                    |
---------------------          |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |-UNC-----                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |-GA Tech-
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16.W Carolina        |-Purdue--                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8.Georgia                     |-Purdue--                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |-Georgia-          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5.Memphis                               |-Purdue--          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |-Memphis-          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |-Syracus-          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |-Syracus-                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |-Kansas--          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11.George Washington |-GWU-----                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |-GWU-----          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |-Ariz----          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |-Kansas--                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |-MD------          |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |-Kansas--                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
15.SC State          |-Kansas--                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |-Georget
 1.UMass                                                               |
---------------------                                                  |
16.C Florida         |-UMass---                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8.Bradley                     |-UMass---                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |-Bradley-          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5.Penn St                               |-UMass---                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |-Arkansa-          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |-Marquet-          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |-Marquet-                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6.N Carolina                                      |-Georget-          |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |-N Carol-                    |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |-Texas T-          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |-Texas T-          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |-Georget-          |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |-Kans St-          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |-Georget-                    |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |-Georget-                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |-Georget-
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------                                        |
16.San Jose St.      |-Kentuck-                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |-Kentuck-                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |-Wi - GB-          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5.Iowa St.                              |-Kentuck-          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12.California        |-Iowa St-          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |-Iowa St-          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |-Utah----                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6.Louisville                                      |-Kentuck-
---------------------                              |
11.Tulsa             |-Louisvi-                    |
---------------------          |                   |
 3.Villanova                   |-Louisvi-          |
---------------------          |         |         |
14.Portland          |-Villano-          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7.Michigan                              |-W Fores-
---------------------                    |
10.Texas 	     |-Michiga-          |
---------------------          |         |
 2.W. Forest                   |-W Fores-
---------------------          |
15.NE La             |-W Fores-
---------------------
    
302.334POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Thu Mar 14 1996 14:05136
 1.UConn 
---------------------
16.Colgate           |--UConn--
---------------------          |
 8.Duke                        |--UConn--
---------------------          |         |
 9.E Mich            |--E Mich-          |
---------------------                    |
 5.Miss State                            |-UConn---
---------------------                    |         |
12.VCU      	     |Miss State         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4.UCLA                        |-Miss State        |
---------------------          |                   |
13.Princeton         |-UCLA----                    |
---------------------                              |
 6.Indiana                     			   |--UConn--
---------------------                              |         |
11.BC                |--Indiana                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |-Indiana-          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |-Ga Tech-          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7.Temple                                |-Cincinnati	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |-Oklahoma          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |-Cincinnati                  |
---------------------          |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |Cincinnati                             |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |--Purdue-
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16.W Carolina        |-Purdue--                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8.Georgia                     |-Purdue--                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |-Clemson-          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5.Memphis                               |--Purdue-          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |-Memphis-          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |-Syracuse          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |-Syracuse-                   |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |--Purdue-          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11.George Washington |-Iowa----                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |--Arizona          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |-Arizona-          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |-Arizona-                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |-Santa Clara       |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |--Kansas-                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
15.SC State          |-Kansas--                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                      >|Kentucky
 1.UMass                                                               |
---------------------                                                  |
16.C Florida         |--UMass--                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8.Bradley                     |--UMass--                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |--Stanford         |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5.Penn St                               |--UMass--                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |-Penn St-          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |-Penn St-          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |-Marquette                   |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6.N Carolina                                      |-UMass---          |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |N Carolina                   |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |-Texas Tech        |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |-Texas Tech        |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |-Georgetown        |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |-N Mexico          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |-Georgetown                  |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |Georgetown                             |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |-Kentucky
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------                                        |
16.San Jose St.      |-Kentucky                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |-Kentucky                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |-Va Tech-          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5.Iowa St.                              |-Kentucky          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12.California        |-Iowa St.          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |-Utah----          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |-Utah----                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6.Louisville                                      |-Kentucky
---------------------                              |
11.Tulsa             |Louisville                   |
---------------------          |                   |
 3.Villanova                   |-Villanova         |
---------------------          |         |         |
14.Portland          |Villanova          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7.Michigan                              |-Villanova
---------------------                    |
10.Texas 	     |Michigan-          |
---------------------          |         |
 2.W. Forest                   |-Michigan
---------------------          |
15.NE La             |W. Forest
---------------------
    
302.335My picks...ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Mar 14 1996 14:21142
    Here are my picks (my main sheet).  No peeking if you haven't filled
    out yours yet.
    
    You peeked!  Fill out your own form first!!  Don't copy off mine! 8^)
    
    
    
 1.UConn 
---------------------  UCONN
16.Colgate           |---------
---------------------          | UCONN
 8.Duke                        |---------
---------------------  DUKE    |         |
 9.E Mich            |---------          |
---------------------                    | UCONN
 5.Miss State                            |---------
---------------------  MISS ST.          |         |
12.VCU      	     |---------          |         |
---------------------          | MISS ST.|         |
 4.UCLA                        |---------          |
---------------------  UCLA    |                   |
13.Princeton         |---------                    |
---------------------                              | UCONN
 6.Indiana                     			   |---------
---------------------  INDIANA                     |         |
11.BC                |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |  GT               |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |---------          |         |
---------------------  GT      |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | CIN     |         |
 7.Temple                                |---------	     |
---------------------  TEMPLE            |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |---------          |                   |
---------------------          | CIN     |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |---------                    |
---------------------  CIN     |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             | UCONN
                                                             |---------
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------  PURDUE                                |         |
16.W Carolina        |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | PURDUE                      |         |
 8.Georgia                     |---------                    |         |
---------------------  CLEMSON |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    | PURDUE            |         |
 5.Memphis                               |---------          |         |
---------------------  MEMPHIS           |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | MEMPHIS |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  SYR     |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              | KANSAS  |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |---------          |
---------------------  IOWA                        |                   |
11.George Washington |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          | IOWA              |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |---------          |                   |
---------------------  ARIZ    |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    | KANSAS  |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |---------                    |
---------------------  MARY              |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          | KANSAS  |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |---------                              |
---------------------  KANSAS  |                                       |
15.SC State          |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |KY
                                                                       |--------
 1.UMass                                                               |
--------------------- UMASS                                            |
16.C Florida         |---------                                        |
---------------------          | UMASS                                 |
 8.Bradley                     |---------                              |
--------------------- BRADLEY  |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    | UMASS                       |
 5.Penn St                               |---------                    |
--------------------- PENN ST.           |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | MAR     |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |---------          |                   |
--------------------- MAR      |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | GEORGE            |
 6.N Carolina                                      |---------          |
---------------------  NC                          |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |  TT               |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  TT      |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    | GEORGE  |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |---------          |         |
---------------------  N.MEX             |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          | GEORGE  |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |---------                    |         |
---------------------  GEORGE  |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             | KENTUCKY|
                                                             |---------
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------  KENTUCKY                              |
16.San Jose St.      |---------                              |
---------------------          | KENTUCKY                    |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
---------------------  VT      |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | KENTUCKY          |
 5.Iowa St.                              |---------          |
---------------------  IOWA ST.          |         |         |
12.California        |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          | IOWA ST.|         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |---------          |         |
---------------------  UTAH    |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              | KENTUCKY|
 6.Louisville                                      |---------
--------------------- LOUIS                        |
11.Tulsa             |---------                    |
---------------------          | VILL              |
 3.Villanova                   |---------          |
---------------------  VILL    |         |         |
14.Portland          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    | WAKE    |
 7.Michigan                              |---------
---------------------  MICH              |
10.Texas 	     |---------          |
---------------------          | WAKE    |
 2.W. Forest                   |---------
---------------------  WAKE    |
15.NE La             |---------
---------------------
    
302.336Second sheet...ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Mar 14 1996 14:29139
    Here is my spoiler sheet.  This does not have to count for the official
    boxland pool.
    
    
 1.UConn 
---------------------  UCONN
16.Colgate           |---------
---------------------          | UCONN
 8.Duke                        |---------
---------------------  DUKE    |         |
 9.E Mich            |---------          |
---------------------                    | MISS ST.
 5.Miss State                            |---------
---------------------  MISS ST.          |         |
12.VCU      	     |---------          |         |
---------------------          | MISS ST.|         |
 4.UCLA                        |---------          |
---------------------  UCLA    |                   |
13.Princeton         |---------                    |
---------------------                              | MISS ST.
 6.Indiana                     			   |---------
---------------------  INDIANA                     |         |
11.BC                |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |  GT               |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |---------          |         |
---------------------  GT      |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | GT      |         |
 7.Temple                                |---------	     |
---------------------  TEMPLE            |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |---------          |                   |
---------------------          | CIN     |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |---------                    |
---------------------  CIN     |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             | KANSAS
                                                             |---------
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------  PURDUE                                |         |
16.W Carolina        |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | PURDUE                      |         |
 8.Georgia                     |---------                    |         |
---------------------  CLEMSON |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    | MEMPHIS           |         |
 5.Memphis                               |---------          |         |
---------------------  MEMPHIS           |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | MEMPHIS |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  SYR     |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              | KANSAS  |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |---------          |
---------------------  GW                          |                   |
11.George Washington |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          | GW                |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |---------          |                   |
---------------------  ARIZ    |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    | KANSAS  |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |---------                    |
---------------------  MARY              |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          | KANSAS  |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |---------                              |
---------------------  KANSAS  |                                       |
15.SC State          |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |KY
                                                                       |--------
 1.UMass                                                               |
--------------------- UMASS                                            |
16.C Florida         |---------                                        |
---------------------          | UMASS                                 |
 8.Bradley                     |---------                              |
--------------------- BRADLEY  |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    | UMASS                       |
 5.Penn St                               |---------                    |
--------------------- PENN ST.           |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | MAR     |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |---------          |                   |
--------------------- MAR      |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | UMASS             |
 6.N Carolina                                      |---------          |
---------------------  NC                          |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |  TT               |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  TT      |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    | GEORGE  |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |---------          |         |
---------------------  N.MEX             |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          | GEORGE  |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |---------                    |         |
---------------------  GEORGE  |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             | KENTUCKY|
                                                             |---------
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------  KENTUCKY                              |
16.San Jose St.      |---------                              |
---------------------          | KENTUCKY                    |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
---------------------  VT      |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | KENTUCKY          |
 5.Iowa St.                              |---------          |
---------------------  IOWA ST.          |         |         |
12.California        |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          | IOWA ST.|         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |---------          |         |
---------------------  UTAH    |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              | KENTUCKY|
 6.Louisville                                      |---------
--------------------- LOUIS                        |
11.Tulsa             |---------                    |
---------------------          | VILL              |
 3.Villanova                   |---------          |
---------------------  VILL    |         |         |
14.Portland          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    | WAKE    |
 7.Michigan                              |---------
---------------------  MICH              |
10.Texas 	     |---------          |
---------------------          | WAKE    |
 2.W. Forest                   |---------
---------------------  WAKE    |
15.NE La             |---------
---------------------
    
302.337Here's hoping!SHRCTR::PJOHNSONaut disce, aut discedeThu Mar 14 1996 14:47136
 1.UConn 
---------------------  UCONN
16.Colgate           |---------
---------------------          | UCONN
 8.Duke                        |---------
---------------------  DUKE    |         |
 9.E Mich            |---------          |
---------------------                    | UCONN
 5.Miss State                            |---------
---------------------  MISS ST.          |         |
12.VCU      	     |---------          |         |
---------------------          | MISS ST.|         |
 4.UCLA                        |---------          |
---------------------  UCLA    |                   |
13.Princeton         |---------                    |
---------------------                              | UCONN
 6.Indiana                     			   |---------
---------------------  INDIANA                     |         |
11.BC                |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |  GT               |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |---------          |         |
---------------------  GT      |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | CIN     |         |
 7.Temple                                |---------	     |
---------------------  TEMPLE            |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |---------          |                   |
---------------------          | CIN     |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |---------                    |
---------------------  CIN     |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             | UCONN
                                                             |---------
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------  PURDUE                                |         |
16.W Carolina        |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | PURDUE                      |         |
 8.Georgia                     |---------                    |         |
---------------------  CLEMSON |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    | PURDUE            |         |
 5.Memphis                               |---------          |         |
---------------------  MEMPHIS           |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | MEMPHIS |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  SYR     |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              | KANSAS  |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |---------          |
---------------------  IOWA                        |                   |
11.George Washington |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          | IOWA              |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |---------          |                   |
---------------------  ARIZ    |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    | KANSAS  |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |---------                    |
---------------------  MARY              |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          | KANSAS  |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |---------                              |
---------------------  KANSAS  |                                       |
15.SC State          |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |UMASS
                                                                       |--------
 1.UMass                                                               |
--------------------- UMASS                                            |
16.C Florida         |---------                                        |
---------------------          | UMASS                                 |
 8.Bradley                     |---------                              |
--------------------- BRADLEY  |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    | UMASS                       |
 5.Penn St                               |---------                    |
--------------------- PENN ST.           |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | MAR     |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |---------          |                   |
--------------------- MAR      |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | UMASS             |
 6.N Carolina                                      |---------          |
---------------------  NC                          |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |  TT               |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  TT      |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    | GEORGE  |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |---------          |         |
---------------------  N.MEX             |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          | GEORGE  |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |---------                    |         |
---------------------  GEORGE  |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             | UMASS   |
                                                             |---------
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------  KENTUCKY                              |
16.San Jose St.      |---------                              |
---------------------          | KENTUCKY                    |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
---------------------  VT      |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | KENTUCKY          |
 5.Iowa St.                              |---------          |
---------------------  IOWA ST.          |         |         |
12.California        |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          | IOWA ST.|         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |---------          |         |
---------------------  UTAH    |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              | KENTUCKY|
 6.Louisville                                      |---------
--------------------- LOUIS                        |
11.Tulsa             |---------                    |
---------------------          | VILL              |
 3.Villanova                   |---------          |
---------------------  VILL    |         |         |
14.Portland          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    | WAKE    |
 7.Michigan                              |---------
---------------------  MICH              |
10.Texas 	     |---------          |
---------------------          | WAKE    |
 2.W. Forest                   |---------
---------------------  WAKE    |
15.NE La             |---------
---------------------
    

302.338ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Mar 14 1996 15:10147
           <<< BACK40::BACK40$DKA500:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SOAPBOX.NOTE;1 >>>
                          -< Soapbox.  Just Soapbox. >-
================================================================================
Note 302.326                      March Madness                       326 of 336
POWDML::HANGGELI "Little Chamber of Full Body Fris" 136 lines  14-MAR-1996 09:57
                             -< The 1996 Brackets >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 1.UConn 
--------------------- Uconn
16.Colgate           |---------
---------------------          |Uconn
 8.Duke                        |---------
---------------------  Duke        |         |
 9.E Mich            |---------          |
---------------------                    |  UConn
 5.Miss State                              |---------
---------------------  Miss St                  |         |
12.VCU      	     |---------          |         |
---------------------          |UCLA         |         |
 4.UCLA                        |---------          |
--------------------- UCLA         |                   |
13.Princeton         |---------                    |
---------------------                              | UConn
 6.Indiana                     			   |---------
---------------------  Indiana                            |         |
11.BC                |---------                    |         |
---------------------          | Ga Tech                  |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |---------          |         |
---------------------  Ga Tech        |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | Cinn        |         |
 7.Temple                                |---------	     |
--------------------- Oklahoma                   |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |---------          |                   |
---------------------          | Cinn        |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |---------                    |
--------------------- Cinn         |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |  UConn
                                                             |---------
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------  Purdue                                      |         |
16.W Carolina        |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | Purdue                            |         |
 8.Georgia                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Georgia         |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |  Purdue                 |         |
 5.Memphis                               |---------          |         |
---------------------   Memphis                 |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | Memphis        |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  Syracuse        |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |  Kansas       |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |---------          |
---------------------  Iowa                            |                   |
11.George Washington |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          | Arizona                  |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Arizona         |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |  Kansas       |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |---------                    |
---------------------  Maryland                  |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          | Kansas        |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |---------                              |
---------------------  Kansa        |                                       |
15.SC State          |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                      
|Kentucky

                                                                       |--------
 1.UMass                                                               |
---------------------  UMass                                                |
16.C Florida         |---------                                        |
---------------------          | UMass                                      |
 8.Bradley                     |---------                              |
---------------------  Bradley        |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    | UMass                            |
 5.Penn St                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Arkansas                   |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | Marquette        |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Marquette         |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | UMass                  |
 6.N Carolina                                      |---------          |
---------------------  N.Carolina                            |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |N.Carolina                   |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Texas Tech         |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    | G.Town        |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |---------          |         |
--------------------- N.Mexico                   |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          | G.Town        |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Gtown         |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             | Kentucky        |
                                                             |---------
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------  Kentucky                                      |
16.San Jose St.      |---------                              |
---------------------          |Kentucky                             |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- WGB         |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |Kentucky                   |
 5.Iowa St.                              |---------          |
--------------------- Iowa St                   |         |         |
12.California        |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Utah         |         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Utah         |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |Kentucky         |
 6.Louisville                                      |---------
--------------------- Louisville                             |
11.Tulsa             |---------                    |
---------------------          | Villanova                  |
 3.Villanova                   |---------          |
--------------------- Villanova         |         |         |
14.Portland          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |W.Forest         |
 7.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- Texas                   |
10.Texas 	     |---------          |
---------------------          |W.Forest        |
 2.W. Forest                   |---------
--------------------- W.Forest         |
15.NE La             |---------
---------------------
    
         ex

302.339POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 14 1996 15:143
    
    Mark, that needs serious help 8^).
    
302.340ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Mar 14 1996 15:157
    
    in 338 I picked Kentucky to go all the way. the kentucky slid off the
    ------. can someone please fix this for me??
    
    thanks
    
    Mark
302.341Mark's PicksPOWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 14 1996 15:23139
================================================================================
Note 302.338                      March Madness                       338 of 339
ACISS1::BATTIS "pool shooting son of a gun"         147 lines  14-MAR-1996 12:10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 1.UConn 
--------------------- Uconn
16.Colgate           |---------
---------------------          |Uconn
 8.Duke                        |---------
---------------------  Duke    |         |
 9.E Mich            |---------          |
---------------------                    |  UConn
 5.Miss State                            |---------
---------------------  Miss St           |         |
12.VCU      	     |---------          |         |
---------------------          |UCLA     |         |
 4.UCLA                        |---------          |
--------------------- UCLA     |                   |
13.Princeton         |---------                    |
---------------------                              | UConn
 6.Indiana                     			   |---------
---------------------  Indiana                     |         |
11.BC                |---------                    |         |
---------------------          | Ga Tech           |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |---------          |         |
---------------------  Ga Tech |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | Cinn    |         |
 7.Temple                                |---------	     |
--------------------- Oklahoma           |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |---------          |                   |
---------------------          | Cinn    |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |---------                    |
--------------------- Cinn     |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |  UConn
                                                             |---------
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------  Purdue                                |         |
16.W Carolina        |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | Purdue                      |         |
 8.Georgia                     |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Georgia  |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |  Purdue           |         |
 5.Memphis                               |---------          |         |
---------------------   Memphis          |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | Memphis |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  Syracuse|                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |  Kansas |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |---------          |
---------------------  Iowa                        |                   |
11.George Washington |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          | Arizona           |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Arizona  |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |  Kansas |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |---------                    |
---------------------  Maryland          |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          | Kansas  |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |---------                              |
---------------------  Kansa   |                                       |
15.SC State          |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |Kentucky
                                                                       |--------
 1.UMass                                                               |
---------------------  UMass                                           |
16.C Florida         |---------                                        |
---------------------          | UMass                                 |
 8.Bradley                     |---------                              |
---------------------  Bradley |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    | UMass                       |
 5.Penn St                               |---------                    |
--------------------- Arkansas           |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | Marquett|         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Marquette|                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | UMass             |
 6.N Carolina                                      |---------          |
---------------------  N.Carolina                  |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |N.Carolina         |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Texas Tec|         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    | G.Town  |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |---------          |         |
--------------------- N.Mexico           |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          | G.Town  |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Gtown    |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             | Kentucky|
                                                             |---------
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------  Kentucky                              |
16.San Jose St.      |---------                              |
---------------------          |Kentucky                     |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |---------                    |
--------------------- WGB      |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |Kentucky           |
 5.Iowa St.                              |---------          |
--------------------- Iowa St            |         |         |
12.California        |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Utah     |         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Utah     |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |---------		 	   |         |
---------------------                              |Kentucky |
 6.Louisville                                      |---------
--------------------- Louisville                   |
11.Tulsa             |---------                    |
---------------------          | Villanova         |
 3.Villanova                   |---------          |
--------------------- Villanova|         |         |
14.Portland          |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |W.Forest |
 7.Michigan                              |---------
--------------------- Texas              |
10.Texas 	     |---------          |
---------------------          |W.Forest |
 2.W. Forest                   |---------
--------------------- W.Forest |
15.NE La             |---------
---------------------
302.342ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Mar 14 1996 15:243
    
    well deb, when I win the soapbox tournament, I fully expect you to
    show me the adoration I richly deserve. :-)
302.343POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 14 1996 15:3312
As The Judge wrote last year:
    
>This is the official Soapbox NCAA pool topic now.  This
>pool will be based on the points system. The points are


>	1 - 2 - 4 - 8 - 12 - 16

>by round respectively.  This gives all who don't pick
>the national champs a shot to still win.  Good Luck,
>standings will be posted.
    
302.344MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways stop at the topThu Mar 14 1996 15:4568
here's mine. i'm new at this.
		
		 	
-----n----1.UCo-n gate -    -----l----- Uconn 16.Co ----------|---------
e |------------k-------- -----n----|Ucon- 8.Du Mich-    -----E----- |
|Duke   | 9.  ----------|---------  | Stat-e   -----s----- UConn 5.Mis
----------|--------- 12.VC-U   ----- ----- |   S    Miss |t | |
----------|--------- | 4.U-CLA ----- ----- |UCLA|    |
----------|--------- Princ-eton-----.----- |    UCLA | | 13
----------|---------  | ana  -    -----i----- UConn 6.Ind
----------|--------- 11.BC-    ----- ----- n    India|a | ||
----------|---------  | - |  ----- ----- |----c----Ga Te h    - |
-----a----| 3.G- Tech-- |    -    | --- ----- | ay |-c----Ga Teeh | |----
|    s    14.Au tin P ----- ----| |  -      | 7.Tem-ple ----- ----- |
Cinn    | | ----------|--------- -    ----- ----- a |--o----Oklahmma |
--- -----O----| 10.-klaho---- |    -    | | - ----- |---n----| Cini
|-- | -----c----2.Cin-innat 15.U-NC  -----|----- |-- ----Cinn     | ---
-----s----Green-boro -- | -------   | --------- n    | UCo|n |--
-----d----1.Pur-ue | 6.W C-arol-----1-----ina |   e    Purdu| | |
----------|---------  | .Geor-gia -----8----- e    Purdu| | | |
----------|--------- -    -----|----- 9.CleimsonGeorg a  | ||         | |
| ----------|---------  | -|   ----- ----- |----e----Purdu      -
-----e----| 5.M-mphis---- -   || | - ----- |----i----Memph s | |- | |  D
| 12. rexel ----- ----|    -    | | -   |----- ----- |---i----Memphes |
|-- |    y    | 4.S racus ----- ----| |  - -   |----- ----- St  u
Syracase| | M    | 13.|ontan| | ----------|---------  | .Iowa-
-----6----- s   |Kansa  | | ----------|--------- Georg-e   -----.-----
-----|----Iowa | | 11 | | -----n----Washi-gton  | -    ----- -----
|----n----Arizo a |  - -----r----| 3.A-izona---- - | || | - ----- iso  n
Arizoaa | V    | 14.|alpar| | ----------|---------  | -    ----- -----
|---s----Kansad |   -- | -----a----| 7.M-rylan 10.S-anta-----|----- ----
a    Maryl-nd | ----- ----Clara-|-------- | 2.K-ansa| | - -----s s    |
Kan|as  | ----------|--------- 15.SC- Sta----- -----te Kansa|  | |
----------|---------  | --------  ----------- u    |Kent cky |
-----s----1.UMa-s | Flor-ida -----C----- UMass|| 16.
----------|--------- Bradl-ey  -----.----- s    | UMa|s | 8
----------|--------- | 9.S-tanf----- -----ord |   e    Bradl|y | |
----------|---------  | nn St-    -----e----- UMass|| 5.P
----------|--------- -  | ----- -----| |----s----Arkan as | - |
-----k----12.Ar-ansas---- |    -    | | - ----- e |--q----| Martuett|---
-----a----| 4.M-rquet---- -    | | - ----- uth  e    Marquotte| |   3
| | 1|.Monm ----------|---------  | Carol-ina ----- ----- UMass|| 6.N
----------|--------- -    -----|-----| | ns   o    N.Caralina | | w
11.Ne| Orle ----------|--------- | |  -    ----- -----   |
|---r----|N.Caholina-- a    3.Tex s Tec ----- ----| | |- -  | -----
-----| | ois       TexasnTec| | | N    | 14.| Illi ----------|---------
-- | -   || --- ----- 7.N -----n | |G.Tow-  | | -----o----Mexic- |--- -
| ----- -----| | .  |-i----N.Mextco   ---- n    10.Ka sas S ----- ----| |
|- | |  -    ----- ----- |---o----| G.Tnwn  |-- | -----r----2.Geo-getow--
-    | ---|-----| ey St .   Gtownl   | s    15.Mi|s Val|
----------|---------  | | |------------y-------- e    | | K|ntuck
-----t----1.Ken-ucky 6.San- Jos-----1-----e --- |c    Kentu-ky |
-----|----St.  ------ 8.Wis-c.-G----- -----reen -- | u    |Kent-cky |
----------Bay |------ WGB ech  -    -----T----- |        | | ||9.Va
----------|--------- 5.Iow-a St----- -----.  u    |Kent|cky |
----------|--------- -   |----- ----- a |--S----Iowa it | |--- |    l
12.Ca iforn ----- ----|    -    | |    -    ----- ----- | -----
|Utah-    | -----h----4.Uta- |------- |   -    | | -|----- |---- ----Utah
| - | -----n----13.Ca-isius-- 6.Lou-isvi| --- -----lle u    |Kent cky |
----------|--------- 11.T-ulsa-----|----- v    Louis|ille
----------|---------  | 3.Vil-lano----- -----va n    Villa|ova |
----------|--------- |   -    -----|----- |----n----Villa ova| - |
-----r----14.Po-tland-- 7.Mic-higa| --- -----n r    |W.Fo est |
----------|--------- -----T	  exas ------ Texas|| 10.
----------|--------- 2.W. - For----- -----est r    |W.Fo est |
----------|--------- 5.NE -La  -----1----- e    W.For st |
----------|--------- -    ----- -----
		
302.345CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Mar 14 1996 15:468

 Great job, Jay!




 Jim
302.346BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 14 1996 15:4910
    
    	RE: .344
    
    	No offense, but WTF is that??
    
    	Are you new to the concept of March Madness, or are you new
    	to the concept of legible typing?
    
    	8^)
    
302.347MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways stop at the topThu Mar 14 1996 15:501
	yes.
302.348MROA::YANNEKISThu Mar 14 1996 15:51137
 1.UConn 
---------------------
16.Colgate           |--UConn--
---------------------          |
 8.Duke                        |--UConn--
---------------------          |         |
 9.E Mich            |--E Mich-          |
---------------------                    |
 5.Miss State                            |-UConn---
---------------------                    |         |
12.VCU      	     |Miss State         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4.UCLA                        |- UCLA --          |
---------------------          |                   |
13.Princeton         |-UCLA----                    |
---------------------                              |
 6.Indiana                     			   |-Cincinnati
---------------------                              |         |
11.BC                |--Indiana                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |-Ga Tech-          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |-Ga Tech-          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7.Temple                                |-Cincinnati	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |-Temple            |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |-Cincinnati                  |
---------------------          |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |Cincinnati                             |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |--Kansas--
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16.W Carolina        |-Purdue--                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8.Georgia                     |-Purdue--                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |-Clemson-          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5.Memphis                               |--Memphis          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |-Memphis-          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |-Memphis -         |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |-Syracuse-                   |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |--Kansas--         |
---------------------                              |                   |
11.George Washington |-Iowa----                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |--Iowa---          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |-Arizona-          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |-Kansas---                   |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |-Santa Clara       |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |--Kansas-                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
15.SC State          |-Kansas--                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                      >|Kentucky
 1.UMass                                                               |
---------------------                                                  |
16.C Florida         |--UMass--                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8.Bradley                     |--UMass--                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |--Stanford         |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5.Penn St                               |--UMass--                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |-Penn St-          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |-Penn St-          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |-Marquette                   |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6.N Carolina                                      |-Georgetown        |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |N Carolina                   |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |-N Carolina        |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |-Texas Tech        |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |-Georgetown        |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |-N Mexico          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |-Georgetown                  |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |Georgetown                             |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |-Kentucky
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------                                        |
16.San Jose St.      |-Kentucky                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |-Kentucky                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |-Wisc. G.B-        |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5.Iowa St.                              |-Kentucky          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12.California        |-Iowa St.          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |-Iowa St.-         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |-Utah----                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6.Louisville                                      |-Kentucky
---------------------                              |
11.Tulsa             |Louisville                   |
---------------------          |                   |
 3.Villanova                   |-Villanova         |
---------------------          |         |         |
14.Portland          |Villanova          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7.Michigan                              |-W. Forest
---------------------                    |
10.Texas 	     |Michigan-          |
---------------------          |         |
 2.W. Forest                   |-W. Forest
---------------------          |
15.NE La             |W. Forest
---------------------
    
    
302.349BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu Mar 14 1996 15:524

	I could care less how they get there, but Uconn and Umass will play
each other in the finals.
302.350POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 14 1996 15:573
    
    Jay, I am NOT fixing that one 8^)!
    
302.351MKOTS3::JOLLIMOREAlways stop at the topThu Mar 14 1996 16:154
	;-)
	
	actually, it's a maze, which if followed correctly shows that
	either Ken-ucky or Villa|ova will win. 
302.352SCASS1::BARBER_AYou lie and your breath stank!Thu Mar 14 1996 16:471
    .344 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  I'm still laughing!
302.353POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 14 1996 17:334
    
    Cripes, Bradley already lost!  
    
    
302.354ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Mar 14 1996 17:432
    
    What about kentucky?
302.355UConn won 68-59POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 14 1996 17:433
    
    They're in the second half, KY leading 94 to 69 last I heard.
    
302.356TROOA::BUTKOVICHrunning on emptyThu Mar 14 1996 17:451
    Does this mean it's too late for the rest of us to join the party?
302.357POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 14 1996 17:464
    
    No, go ahead and join!  I just can't give you points for the first 3
    games.
    
302.358ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Mar 14 1996 17:483
    
    damn!! I thought bradley would win. stanford has good defense however.
    my upset special is Texas over Michigan.
302.359TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisrunning on emptyThu Mar 14 1996 18:162
Waaahhhh.... I just spent 10 minutes putting mine in and my system link 
aborted (maybe it's trying to tell me something?)  Here I go again...
302.360Final: Kentucky 94-UConn 89TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisrunning on emptyThu Mar 14 1996 18:24135
 1.UConn 
---------------------
16.Colgate           |--UConn--
---------------------          |
 8.Duke                        |--UConn--
---------------------          |         |
 9.E Mich            |--Duke  -          |
---------------------                    |
 5.Miss State                            |-UConn---
---------------------                    |         |
12.VCU               |Miss State         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4.UCLA                        |-UCLA----          |
---------------------          |                   |
13.Princeton         |-UCLA----                    |
---------------------                              |
 6.Indiana                                         |--UConn--
---------------------                              |         |
11.BC                |--Indiana                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |-Ga Tech-          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |-Ga Tech-          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7.Temple                                |-Ga Tech           |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |-Oklahoma          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |-Oklahoma                    |
---------------------          |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |Cincinnati                             |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |--UConn -
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16.W Carolina        |-Purdue--                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8.Georgia                     |-Purdue--                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |-Clemson-          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5.Memphis                               |--Syracuse-        |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |-Memphis-          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |-Syracuse          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |-Syracuse-                   |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |--Kansas-          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11.George Washington |-Iowa----                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3.Arizona                     |--Iowa             |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |-Arizona-          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |-Kansas-                     |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |-Maryland          |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2.Kansas                      |--Kansas-                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
15.SC State          |-Kansas--                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                      
1.UMass                                                                |
---------------------                                                  |
16.C Florida         |--UMass--                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8.Bradley                     |--UMass--                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |--Stanford         |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5.Penn St                               |--UMass--                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |-Penn St-          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |-Penn St-          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth          |-Marquette                   |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6.N Carolina                                      |-Georgetown---     |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |N Carolina                   |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |-Texas Tech        |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |-Texas Tech        |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |-Georgetown        |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |-Kansas St         |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |-Georgetown                  |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |Georgetown                             |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |-Kentucky
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------                                        |
16.San Jose St.      |-Kentucky                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |-Kentucky                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |-Wisc -            |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5.Iowa St.                              |-Kentucky          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12.California        |-Iowa St.          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4.Utah                        |-Iowa----          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |-Utah----                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6.Louisville                                      |-Kentucky
---------------------                              |
11.Tulsa             |Louisville                   |
---------------------          |                   |
 3.Villanova                   |-Villanova         |
---------------------          |         |         |
14.Portland          |Villanova          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7.Michigan                              |-Michigan
---------------------                    |
10.Texas             |Michigan-          |
---------------------          |         |
 2.W. Forest                   |-Michigan
---------------------          |
15.NE La             |W. Forest
---------------------

302.361WAHOO::LEVESQUEhickory dickoryThu Mar 14 1996 18:255
>Waaahhhh.... I just spent 10 minutes putting mine in and my system link 
>aborted (maybe it's trying to tell me something?)  Here I go again...
    
    Next time exit the conference then re-enter and type "reply/last" to
    retrieve your buffer. /hth
302.362winners to dateSTRATA::ZILINSKYThu Mar 14 1996 18:256
    
    So far UConn, Stanford and Kentucky have all won their first round
    games.
    
         Tom Z.
      AKA Bartender
302.363BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 14 1996 18:3010
    
    	RE: Chris/Doc
    
    	An alternative is to create a text file in your account for a
    	long entry so that a system link doesn't blow the thing away
    	on you.
    
    	Does NOTES create NOTES*.TMP or .JOU or .TJL files when the
    	current session is dropped?
    
302.364POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 14 1996 20:247
    
    7 games down, and Glenn is alone in first place with 7 points.
    
    I'll post the standings tomorrow morning after all of today's games
    have been played.  I'm showing 19 games to be played today - is that
    right?
         
302.365GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesThu Mar 14 1996 21:39136
 1.UConn 
---------------------
16.Colgate           |--UConn--
---------------------          |
 8.Duke                        |--UConn--
---------------------          |         |
 9.E Mich            |--E Mich-          |
---------------------                    |
 5.Miss State                            |-UConn---
---------------------                    |         |
12.VCU      	     |Miss State         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4.UCLA                        |-Miss State        |
---------------------          |                   |
13.Princeton         |-UCLA----                    |
---------------------                              |
 6.Indiana                     			   |--Cincinnati
---------------------                              |         |
11.BC                |--BC-----                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |-Ga Tech-          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |-Ga Tech-          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7.Temple                                |-Cincinnati	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |-Oklahoma          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |-Cincinnati                  |
---------------------          |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |Cincinnati                             |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |--Cincinnati
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16.W Carolina        |-Purdue--                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8.Georgia                     |-Purdue--                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |-Clemson-          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5.Memphis                               |--Purdue-          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |-Memphis-          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |-Memphis-          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |-Montana St                  |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |--Kansas-          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11.George Washington |-Iowa----                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |--Arizona          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |-Arizona-          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |-Kansas--                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |-Santa Clara       |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |--Kansas-                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
15.SC State          |-Kansas--                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                      >|G-town
 1.UMass                                                               |
---------------------                                                  |
16.C Florida         |--UMass--                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8.Bradley                     |--UMass--                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |--Stanford         |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5.Penn St                               |-Penn St-                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |-Penn St-          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |-Penn St-          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |-Marquette                   |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6.N Carolina                                      |-Georgetown        |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |N Carolina                   |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |-Texas Tech        |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |-Texas Tech        |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |-Georgetown        |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |-Kansas St.        |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |-Georgetown                  |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |Georgetown                             |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |-Georgetown
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------                                        |
16.San Jose St.      |-Kentucky                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |-Kentucky                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |-Va Tech-          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5.Iowa St.                              |-Kentucky          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12.California        |-Iowa St.          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |-Utah----          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |-Utah----                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6.Louisville                                      |-Kentucky
---------------------                              |
11.Tulsa             |Louisville                   |
---------------------          |                   |
 3.Villanova                   |-Villanova         |
---------------------          |         |         |
14.Portland          |Villanova          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7.Michigan                              |-Villanova
---------------------                    |
10.Texas 	     |Michigan-          |
---------------------          |         |
 2.W. Forest                   |-Michigan
---------------------          |
15.NE La             |W. Forest
---------------------
    
302.366GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheThu Mar 14 1996 21:465
    
    umass beat the seminoles
    
    
    
302.367GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesThu Mar 14 1996 22:012
When is the Montana State- Syracuse game. MS is my upset pick of the first 
round. Something about the Big Sky Conference. What a powerhouse!
302.368POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 00:384
    
    Tom, I can't give you points for the games that already finished!
    
    
302.369POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Fri Mar 15 1996 00:491
    Debra is the giver and taker of points.
302.370POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 00:503
    
    I am Debra, the great and powerful.
    
302.371POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Fri Mar 15 1996 00:541
    Well, let's not go overboard here. It's only a game, after all....
302.372POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 00:563
    
    Pay no attention to that man in the last note
    
302.373GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheFri Mar 15 1996 11:2910
    
    
    >>umass beat the seminoles
    
    
    i meant central florida, not the seminoles.
    
    gotta remember to take those potatoes out of my ears...
                                               
    
302.374MROA::YANNEKISFri Mar 15 1996 11:4020
    
    Deb,
    
    I believe 16 games were played yesterday and another 16 today.  8
    will be played Saturday and another 8 Sunday.  The winners yesterday
    were  
    
    East  	UMass, Stanford, Arkansas, Marquette
    Midwest     Kentucky, Va. Tech, Iowa State, Utah
    Southeast	UConn, East Mich, Miss State, Princeton (yea Ivies!)
    West        Syracuse, Drexel, Purdue, Georgia
    
    One day down and I'm already dead in the water.  The three "big" upsets
    yesterday killed teams I had going 2-3 rounds.  Drexel killed Memphis,
    Princeton killed UCLA, and Arkansas killed Penn State. 1 day into a 17
    day tournament and I'm gone.
    
    Greg
     
                                                                     
302.375revenge of the nerds...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseFri Mar 15 1996 11:544
    
      Drexel ?  Princeton !!!
    
      bb
302.376POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 12:0116
    
    Current standings after 16 games (thanks, Greg - I was confused as
    usual):
    
    Glenn	12
    Me		12
    Greg	11
    Mark	11
    Steve	10
    Pete	10
    Chris	 7 (10-3 for first 3 games)
    
    Once I figure out what games had been played by the time Tom posted his
    note, I'll add him in.
    
    
302.377POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 12:484
    
    Does anyone have a time schedule for yesterday's games in order that I
    might fulfill the promise made in the last sentence of my last note?
    
302.378GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 12:548
    >Tom, I can't give you points for the games that already finished!
    
I'm in Colorado. I worked until 5:30 MST. I had no way of knowing the scores. I
appeal to the SOAPBOX crowd. (Yea, that will do me alot of good  :)  )

I'd bitch more, if the prize was better.  :)
    
302.379just click your heels and say "I want my 3 pts, I want my 3 pts"TROOA::BUTKOVICHrunning on emptyFri Mar 15 1996 13:396
    and I think I should get my 3 points because I was honest and put down
    the picks the way I would have done even if I didn't know the scores.....
    
    .... Really!!!  I mean I have UConn and Kentucky to go all the way to
    the finals.  Do you think I would have picked the other teams?
                                        
302.380POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Fri Mar 15 1996 13:401
    No, sorry, this is the real world.
302.381PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Mar 15 1996 13:427
>  <<< Note 302.378 by GENRAL::RALSTON "Only half of us are above average!" >>>
    
>I'm in Colorado. I worked until 5:30 MST. I had no way of knowing the scores. I
>appeal to the SOAPBOX crowd. (Yea, that will do me alot of good  :)  )

	how does he know he appeals to us?  that's what _I_ wanna know.

302.382GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 13:451
<-----  you mean I don't?!??!    :(
302.383GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 13:473
I picked Montana State to beat Syracuse. Do you think I was being dishonest?

What's a short guy know about basketball anyway?  :)
302.384WAHOO::LEVESQUEbeware the IdesFri Mar 15 1996 13:483
    >What's a short guy know about basketball anyway?  :)
    
     Hey!
302.385GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 13:525
    >>What's a short guy know about basketball anyway?  :)
    
     >Hey!

Just for clarity, I was speaking about me.   :)
302.386PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Mar 15 1996 13:535
>> <-----  you mean I don't?!??!    :(

	i didn't say that.  Tom is a very appealing name, for instance. ;>
	
302.387GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 13:551
Thanks, I think so.  :)
302.388ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Fri Mar 15 1996 14:2719
    Actually, my spoiler sheet is winning! (I know, I said this one didn't
    have to count, I just thought I'd bring this up. 8^) )
    
    I should have 14 instead of 13, as I was meaning to pick E.Mich on my
    spoiler sheet (this was one of those games I wasn't sure what to do
    with, so I was going to pick Duke on one sheet and E.Mich on the
    other).  I don't know how I missed this, other than perhaps brain
    damage.
    
    Princeton and Drexel I would never have picked, in any case.
    (who the hell is Drexel, anyway?  I had Memphis as one of my upset
    teams- going to the third round on my spoiler sheet).
    
    It wouldn't be too bad if Drexel could beat Syracuse, but they don't
    have a snowball's chance in Hades of beating them.
    
    GaK!
    
    -steve
302.389somewhere between Northeastern and MITGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseFri Mar 15 1996 14:324
    
      Drexel is an engineering school in Philly.  Small, geeky.
    
      bb
302.390CNTROL::JENNISONJoin me in glad adorationFri Mar 15 1996 15:0610
    
    	Well, my sheet is at home, but my husband can attest to
    	the fact that I completed it beforehand.
    
    	I've got 12 points.  My husband has 10.  The Penn State loss 
    	could have hurt me badly, except that my husband had UCLA going
    	to the finals.  
    
    	Karen
    
302.391GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 15:264
Was anybody else foolish enough to pick Georgetown to win it all? Wanted to
ask this now, in case Missisippi Valley State plays the game of their life 
tonight. It will be fun to see how they get their school name on their jerseys. 
They will probably wimp out with MVS or sumpthin. 
302.392POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 15:357
    
    >Was anybody else foolish enough to pick Georgetown to win it all?
    
    
    {cough}
    
    
302.393GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 15:371
You too??
302.394POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 15:404
    
    They're ahead by 10 in the first half.
    
    
302.395POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 16:359
    
    Uh-oh.  I see that I made an error on my posting by reading the
    brackets incorrectly - I picked both Cincinnati and UNC to win and
    didn't choose a winner between Temple and Oklahoma.
    
    These games haven't been played yet - please forgive me, but I've gotta
    fix that!
    
    
302.396reposted to fix error - left original at .333POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 16:38136
    
 1.UConn 
---------------------
16.Colgate           |-UConn---
---------------------          |
 8.Duke                        |-UConn---
---------------------          |         |
 9.E Mich            |-Duke----          |
---------------------                    |
 5.Miss State                              |-UConn-
---------------------                    |         |
12.VCU      	     |-Miss St-          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4.UCLA                        |-Princet-          |
---------------------          |                   |
13.Princeton         |-Princet-                    |
---------------------                              |
 6.Indiana                     			   |-GA Tech-
---------------------                              |         |
11.BC                |-BC------                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3.Ga Tech                     |-GA Tech-          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14.Austin Peay       |-GA Tech-          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7.Temple                                |-GA Tech-	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10.Oklahoma          |-Temple--          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2.Cincinnati                  |-Cincinn-                    |
---------------------          |                             |
15.UNC Greensboro    |-Cincinn-                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |-GA Tech-
 1.Purdue                                                    |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16.W Carolina        |-Purdue--                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8.Georgia                     |-Purdue--                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9.Clemson           |-Georgia-          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5.Memphis                               |-Purdue--          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12.Drexel            |-Memphis-          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4.Syracuse                    |-Syracus-          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13.Montana St        |-Syracus-                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6.Iowa                                            |-Kansas--          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11.George Washington |-GWU-----                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3.Arizona  	               |-GWU-----          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14.Valparaiso        |-Ariz----          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7.Maryland                              |-Kansas--                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
10.Santa Clara       |-MD------          |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2.Kansas   	               |-Kansas--                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
15.SC State          |-Kansas--                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |-Georget
 1.UMass                                                               |
---------------------                                                  |
16.C Florida         |-UMass---                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8.Bradley                     |-UMass---                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9.Stanford          |-Bradley-          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5.Penn St                               |-UMass---                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12.Arkansas          |-Arkansa-          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4.Marquette                   |-Marquet-          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13.Monmouth	     |-Marquet-                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6.N Carolina                                      |-Georget-          |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11.New Orleans       |-N Carol-                    |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3.Texas Tech                  |-Texas T-          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14.N Illinois        |-Texas T-          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7.N Mexico                              |-Georget-          |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10.Kansas St.        |-Kans St-          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2.Georgetown                  |-Georget-                    |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15.Miss Valley St.   |-Georget-                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |-Georget-
 1.Kentucky                                                  |
---------------------                                        |
16.San Jose St.      |-Kentuck-                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8.Wisc.-Green Bay             |-Kentuck-                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9.Va Tech           |-Wi - GB-          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5.Iowa St.                              |-Kentuck-          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12.California        |-Iowa St-          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4.Utah   	               |-Iowa St-          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13.Canisius          |-Utah----                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6.Louisville                                      |-Kentuck-
---------------------                              |
11.Tulsa             |-Louisvi-                    |
---------------------          |                   |
 3.Villanova                   |-Louisvi-          |
---------------------          |         |         |
14.Portland          |-Villano-          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7.Michigan                              |-W Fores-
---------------------                    |
10.Texas 	     |-Michiga-          |
---------------------          |         |
 2.W. Forest                   |-W Fores-
---------------------          |
15.NE La             |-W Fores-
---------------------
    
302.397ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Fri Mar 15 1996 16:423
    Georgetown is crushing MVS.  
    Louisville is up by 8 at the 1/2, over Tulsa (who started out very hot).
    Temple is up over Oklahoma in the second 1/2.  
302.398ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Fri Mar 15 1996 18:192
    Georgetown, Louisville, and Temple advance.  Louisville won in the
    first OT game of the tourney.
302.399POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 20:165
    
    Santa Clara, New Mexico, Cincinnati advance.  Villanova currently
    crushing Portland - up by 40 with about 3 minutes left.
    
    
302.401BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoFri Mar 15 1996 20:267
| <<< Note 302.399 by POWDML::HANGGELI "Little Chamber of Full Body Frisks" >>>


| Villanova currently crushing Portland - up by 40 with about 3 minutes left.

	I think that game is too close to call.....please keep us updated, Deb!

302.402POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 20:264
    
    They won't TOUCH Georgia Tech, not a bit!
    
    
302.403GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 20:285
 I picked Santa Clara. I probably won't get the points though, because I 
entered my picks late!  :)

  
Game of the night---- Austin Peay!
302.404POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 20:2920
    
    All right, it's almost 5:30 and no other games have started, so I'm
    going to post the standings as of now, cuz Lord knows when I'll get to
    them again, what with the thrilling weekend I have planned 8^).
    
    23 of 32 games have been played.
    
    Glenn & Greg		18
    Me				17
    Mark, Steve, Pete, Tom*   	16
    Chris*			14
    
    
    * All right, I've given these two all the points because I just can't
      figure out when the games started and ended in relation to when the
      picks were picked, but if either of them win, their name goes in the
      record book with an asterisk, just like what's-his-name the baseball
      player.
    
    
302.405GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 20:305
    
    >They won't TOUCH Georgia Tech, not a bit!
    
Who won't??   :)
    
302.406POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 20:324
    
    Austin Peay!  Well, they'd better not 8^)!
    
    
302.407GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 20:328
      >All right, I've given these two all the points because I just can't
      >figure out when the games started and ended in relation to when the
      >picks were picked, but if either of them win, their name goes in the
      >record book with an asterisk, just like what's-his-name the baseball
      >player.
    
I can live with that, especially when Georgetown kicks everyone's butt!!  :)
    
302.408POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 15 1996 20:333
    
    You forget who ELSE picked Georgetown to go all the way!
    
302.409GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 20:331
AUSTIN PEAY ROOOOOOOOLS!!!!!!!!
302.410GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 20:343
    >You forget who ELSE picked Georgetown to go all the way!
    
I didn't forget, I just refuse to mention it!   :)
302.411Time will tell!TROOA::BUTKOVICHrunning on emptyFri Mar 15 1996 20:422
    Well I have Georgetown getting to the Final Four but no way do I think
    they're getting by Kentucky....
302.412GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 15 1996 20:452
Kentucky won't even be in the final, if I have anything to say about. Which of
course I don't. :)
302.413WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Mar 18 1996 09:141
    UMASS makes the sweet sixteen and BC goes home.
302.414ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 18 1996 11:3539
    Drat!  In my second spoiler sheet, I picked Arkansas and Loisville to go to
    the Sweet 16.  Unfortunately, I came to my senses and tossed this sheet
    in the garbage can.  Didn't see Arkansas getting by Marquette with 4
    freshmen starters and their two best players gone.
    
    Of course, I also had Indiana going to the Sweet 16 on this sheet, so
    it's not like I would have been racking in the extra points.  8^)
    
    
    From memory, the following teams advanced to the Sweet 16:
    
    Arkansas (lowest seed to advance)
    Louisville
    UMass
    Wake Forest (in an exciting game with Texas)
    Cincinnati
    UConn
    Kansas
    Arizona
    Kentucky
    Texas Tech
    Georgia 
    Utah
    Miss. St.
    Syracuse
    Georgetown
    Georgia Tech
    
    
    I didn't bring in my sheets today, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of
    my memory.  I think these are correct.
    
    I'm doing pretty good on my spoiler sheet.  On one side of it, I am 16
    for 16 in first round games...too bad I didn't fare as well on the other 
    side.  8^)
    
    
    
    -steve  
302.415ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 11:393
    
    UMass is going to have a hellva game for their third round matchup.
    Kentucky on the other hand plays Utah, enough said.
302.416no more BoilermakersGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseMon Mar 18 1996 12:194
    
      Purdue tumped over.
    
      bb
302.417ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 12:253
    
    I am embarrased for the Big Ten conference. They should only invite 2-3
    for next year. The SEC and Big East conferences are doing great.
302.418CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 18 1996 12:273

 When does UMass play again?
302.419ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 12:502
    
    Thursday night
302.420ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 12:545
    
    of all the top seeds left only Kentucky, UConn, and Kansas have been
    impressive. UMass is not good enough to make it to the finals. they
    better play better on Thursday than they did on Saturday or Arkansas
    will blow right by them. jmho
302.421Sweet 16TROOA::BUTKOVICHKeyser Soze is alive &amp; wellMon Mar 18 1996 13:3314
    I think Shawn got all the right teams back a few notes ago, but I *do*
    have my sheets here with me today so I'll post the Sweet 16 matchups:
    
    (1)	UConn 		vs 	(5) Miss State
    (3) Ga Tech 	vs 	(2) Cincinnatti
    (8) Georgia 	vs 	(4) Syracuse
    (3) Arizona 	vs 	(2) Kansas
    (1) UMass 		vs 	(12) Arkansas
    (3) Texas Tech 	vs 	(2) Georgetown
    (1) Kentucky 	vs 	(4) Utah
    (6) Louisville 	vs 	(2) Wake Forest
    
    I think I have 37 points (21 in the first round and 16 in the second)
    but will wait for the great and powerful to confirm  8*)
302.422BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 18 1996 13:356
    
    	I don't think you mean me, since I don't like, nor do I follow,
    	basketball.
    
    	Could have been Steve, though.
    
302.423TROOA::BUTKOVICHKeyser Soze is alive &amp; wellMon Mar 18 1996 13:481
    oooppps... sorry.  Steve it was!
302.424ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 14:063
    
    well Chris, I'm waiting for the true great and powerful, mz_debra
    to update the standings. 
302.425POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksMon Mar 18 1996 14:125
    
    Hold your horses 8^).
    
    I'm having a crisis here.
    
302.426ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 14:212
    
    <------ full body frisks, eh?
302.427BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 18 1996 14:254
    
    	There're probably a bunch of EH&S employees running around the
    	plant with lollipops in their mouths or something.
    
302.428ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 14:303
    
    nah shawn, prolly a lot of phone calls for ergonomic chairs or
    somesuch.
302.429ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 18 1996 14:3216
    The most interesting matchup, IMO, will be the Texas Tech Georgetown
    game.  They are both very quick teams...should be an up and down, high
    scoring game.  I like fast-paced games, I do.
    
    Another possibly interesting match-up is the Arkansas UMass game. 
    Arkansas may not be experienced, but they are very quick.  UMass has
    more experienced talent, and of course, Camby- who I feel will be a
    major factor in the game.  Robinson will have to have a very good game,
    and they will have to shoot well from 3-pt. land to stay in an
    offensive battle with UMass.
    
    I'm not sure how to call the Cincinnati game...depends on which
    Cincinnati team shows up. 
    
    
    -steve
302.430ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 14:354
    
    UMass can be beaten. Kentucky will take care of that if Arkansas
    doesn't first. Kansas and Kentucky have been impressive. Texas Tech
    blew Carolina out of the building, Georgetown better beware.
302.431WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureMon Mar 18 1996 14:452
    Every team can be beaten. How it plays out is as much a factor of luck
    and mood as it is talent. 
302.432POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksMon Mar 18 1996 15:1015
    
    All right, I'm almost ready, but my Netscape is down today 8^p.
    
    If someone will tell me the results of the following four first round 
    games, I'll update our standings.
    
    
    Indiana vs BC
    Iowa vs George Washington
    North Carolina vs New Orleans
    Michigan vs Texas
    
    
    Thanks!
    
302.433TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhatever it takesMon Mar 18 1996 15:289
    If someone will tell me the results of the following four first round    
    games, I'll update our standings.            
    
    
    Indiana vs BC  - BC   
    Iowa vs George Washington - Iowa    
    North Carolina vs New Orleans - N Carolina   
    Michigan vs Texas   - Texas  (Boo Hiss - I had picked Michigan to get
                                  to the Final 8)  
302.434ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 15:413
    
    <------ Chris, *never* pick the Big 10 to go further than the second
    round. hth
302.435POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksMon Mar 18 1996 15:4414
    
    Thanks, Chris!
    
    Here are the standings out of a possible 64:
    
    Glenn	47
    Me, Tom*	46
    Mark	44
    Steve, Pete	43
    Greg	41
    Chris*	37
    
    
    
302.436USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Mon Mar 18 1996 15:481
    NC lost yesterday...
302.437ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 16:162
    
    that there glenn can sure pick em.
302.438LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsMon Mar 18 1996 17:411
    i c umass is still in contention.  heh heh.
302.439ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 17:492
    
    along with 15 other teams, yes.
302.440close race?TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhatever it takesMon Mar 18 1996 18:281
    Well, there are only 10 points separating the top from the bottom...
302.441POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksMon Mar 18 1996 18:336
    
    Well, some people have lost teams from the next few rounds already,
    which kind of effs up their chances, but it's still pretty open, I'd
    say.
    
    
302.442ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 18 1996 18:371
    My final 4 teams have all survived thus far...  8^)
302.443ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 18:392
    
    so have mine, big deal.
302.444ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 18 1996 19:071
    but my picks are better...  8^)
302.445ready to make a surge...TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhatever it takesMon Mar 18 1996 19:202
    7 of my final 8 teams are still in it.  (double pox on Michigan-hiss!)
    
302.446ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 18 1996 19:274
    
    well Chris, I have 7 out of 8 teams left as well. I at least picked
    Kansas to reach the Final 4. I knew Purdue was the "weak" link among
    the #1 seeds. next weekend should be interesting.
302.447ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Tue Mar 19 1996 11:445
    Yup, I still have 7 out of 8, too.  I wish I had listened to my
    instincts and had Purdue go out one round earlier.  I knew they
    were not a power-house team.  Sigh.  
    
    The Big 10 played very small this tourney...
302.448CNTROL::JENNISONJoin me in glad adorationTue Mar 19 1996 12:3215
    
    	I correctly picked 24 teams in the first round, and 10 in the
    	second.  
    
    	My husband correctly picked 22 teams in the first round, and
    	11 in the second.
    
    	With our scoring (1 point first round, 2 points second), we are
    	tied at 44 points each.
    
    	However, 2 of Jamie's final four teams are already out.  Only one
    	of mine is...
    
    	Karen
    
302.449Georgetown all the way!!!GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Tue Mar 19 1996 17:276
    I'm sticking with Georgetown and Cincinnati in the final, with
    Georgetown to take it all. It would be great because that means that all 
    four top seeds will have been eliminated.
    
    I have to admit that the best looking team during 1st and 2nd rounds, IMO 
    was Kentucky.
302.450ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Wed Mar 20 1996 12:1111
    Georgia Tech is probably going to beat Cincy- judgeing by the way both
    teams have been playing.
    
    If Miss St. and Georgia Tech both win, my standing in the pool will
    likely be much better than it is currently (down 7 pts. in the pool
    that counts...some bozo is sitting with 53 points, to my 46).  Only one
    other person (that I'm aware of) has picked the Miss. St. upset over
    UConn, and that person has Cincinnati in the Final Four.
    
    
    -steve
302.451CNTROL::JENNISONJoin me in glad adorationWed Mar 20 1996 16:205
    
    	I picked Kentucky to win it all (against Kansas in the finals).
    
    	Karen
    
302.452LANDO::OLIVER_BWed Mar 20 1996 16:261
    Go UMass!!!
302.453it could happen...ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Wed Mar 20 1996 19:061
    Arkansas is going to beat them.  8^)
302.454GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Wed Mar 20 1996 22:224
    Re: .453
    
    Maybe they won't get that far, Steve. Kentucky may take Utah lightly,
    which would be a big mistake.
302.455WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureThu Mar 21 1996 10:293
    >Arkansas is going to beat them.  8^)
    
     Not tonight, though.
302.456ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Mar 21 1996 11:265
    I just realized that I have UMass going to the final 4 on my spoiler
    sheet.  Ugh!  They won't make it!  Georgetown is going to take them to
    school.  
    
    So much for winning the pool...
302.457POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 21 1996 14:16127
302.458TROOA::BUTKOVICHChrisbert IncFri Mar 22 1996 03:091
    I have my fingers crossed that Wake Forest loses tonight!
302.459WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureFri Mar 22 1996 10:504
    UMASS pretty much stuck it to a scrappy Arkansas last night. Despite
    furious backcourt pressure, UMASS guards played pretty well. Camby did
    not have a particularly strong showing; they'll need more out of him
    against Georgetown.
302.460ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Mar 22 1996 11:268
    
    .454
    
    Tom, you were saying?? Kentucky 101  Utah 70
    
    Kentucky is going through these teams like a knife through hot butter.
    Their average win has been by 31 points. If UMass can survive
    Georgetown tomorrow, they will get to face Kentucky next weekend.
302.461Tonight : UCONN...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseFri Mar 22 1996 11:486
    
      Georgetown had a wild contest with Texas Tech.
    
      Wake Forest squeeked by Louisville by 1.
    
      bb
302.462ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Mar 22 1996 11:585
    
    well bb, the Georgetown game was fun to watch! I think Georgetown and
    UMass will be another exciting game to watch. UConn plays at 6:40
    and then Kansas and Arizona square off at 9:20 or so. We get Cinn
    vs Georgia Tech instead.
302.463ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Fri Mar 22 1996 12:1120
    To summarize, the following teams advanced last night:
    
    Georgetown (if TT had played smart in the second half, they would have
                won, IMO)
    UMass (anyone catch the score in this game?)
    Wake Forest (by a hair)
    Kentucky (who made Utah look like a high school team)
    
    
    Yippie!  I'm 4 for 4 on that side of my sheet (on both sheets).
    
    Tonight is my do or die night.  This side of my sheet is where I've
    picked the upsets (Miss. St. over UConn, and GT over Cincinnati) on my
    spoiler sheet.  Of course, should the upsets not happen, I still have
    my main sheet, where I picked Cin. and UConn, but I doubt this will
    help me much since most everyone esle picked these teams, too (at least
    in the pool here).
    
    
    -steve
302.464LANDO::OLIVER_BFri Mar 22 1996 12:261
    Go UMass!!!
302.465CNTROL::JENNISONJoin me in glad adorationFri Mar 22 1996 12:286
    
    	4/4 last night, too!
    
    	go Kentucky!
    
    
302.466ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Mar 22 1996 12:304
    
    sorry Oph, UMass is going to meet their Waterloo against Kentucky.
    They are the finest team in the land, and Pitino will finally get his
    long sought after national championship.
302.467BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoFri Mar 22 1996 12:344

	If UMASS or Kentucky wins, each coach could say they went to the finals
and people would believe them. They look toooooo much alike!
302.468WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureFri Mar 22 1996 12:389
    >sorry Oph, UMass is going to meet their Waterloo against Kentucky.
    
     Leech claimed the same thing about UMASS with Arkansas. And then we
    heard that Georgetown would beat 'em. I think some of you guys won't
    respect UMASS until after they win the whole thing- and even then I
    think some of you guys will find reasons to claim someone else is
    better. Having the best record in the country wasn't enough. Beating
    Kentucky in their previous head to head matchup wasn't enough. No
    matter what, it won't be enough.
302.469CNTROL::JENNISONJoin me in glad adorationFri Mar 22 1996 12:438
    
    	To be honest, I really want UMASS to win it all.  However, 
    	I didn't pick them on the sheet I'm playing against my husband.
    	He did.  Therefore, they must lose.
    
    	Sorry.
    
    	
302.470GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 22 1996 12:595
    I think that overall UMass is the best team in the country. However,
    the Kentucky vs Utah matchup convinced me that Kentucky is the best
    team in the tournament. I'd like to see Georgetown win because of the
    pool but I'd really like to see UMass win. But, I now think that
    Kentucky will take it all.
302.471LANDO::OLIVER_BFri Mar 22 1996 13:036
    |sorry Oph, UMass is going to meet their Waterloo against Kentucky.
    
    sorry mark, but i've been directing very strong and positive 
    thought waves to the whole umass team throughout the tournament.
    i may have put all my eggs in one basket, but a girl's intuition
    is a very powerful thing.  /hth
302.472WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureFri Mar 22 1996 13:073
    >a girl's intuition is a very powerful thing.
    
     You consulted with a young relative? :-)
302.473LANDO::OLIVER_BFri Mar 22 1996 13:131
    whoops!  i meant sheila's. 
302.474ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Mar 22 1996 13:197
    
    well doc, I watch college hoops all during the year, and while I think
    UMass is a great team, they are not better than Kentucky. They beat 
    Kentucky in the 2nd or 3rd game of the season. This time of year it's
    the hottest team that wins, period. Kentucky looks by far the best
    of this tournament. so, with that said, Kentucky will beat UMass next
    weekend, end of story.
302.475ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Fri Mar 22 1996 13:2117
    re: .468
    
    What?  You miss my smiley on that comment?  For the record, I did not
    think Arkasas was going to win that game.  I did think they had an
    honest shot to go to the sweet 16, but no farther.
    
    Actually, I was teasing Oph when I said Arkansas was going to beat
    UMass.  I did think Arkansas would give them a better game than they
    did, however.
    
    In any case, if UMass manages to beat both Georgetown (and after seeing
    both teams play last night, I think this is a possibility) AND
    Kentucky, well, I'll give them credit where credit is due.
    
    I *am* rootin' for 'em to beat Georgetown.  
    
    -steve       
302.476GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Mar 22 1996 13:331
    I think that UMass' season ends Saturday.
302.477WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureFri Mar 22 1996 13:5221
    >well doc, I watch college hoops all during the year, and while I think
    >UMass is a great team, they are not better than Kentucky. 
    
     It remains to be seen whether they will get to play Kentucky, much
    less beat them. Nonetheless, it seems to me that Kentucky is playing
    extremely well in an obvious way (they are blowing out their
    opponents). UMASS, on the other hand, didn't really look all that good,
    yet they still put a whupping on Arkansas. UMASS seems to be one of
    those teams that plays better than they look. They are a sneak up on ya
    kind of team. They are also prone to playing to the level of their
    competition- which means when they play a crummy team they slack off a
    bit until crunch time when they do enough to win. This is dangerous, of
    course, in a 1 and out tourney. Kentucky is much different in that they
    come out for blood every time, regardless of the level of their
    opponent. This leads to big wins over lesser teams. The only downside
    to this is that in a close game, they might have a slight
    psychological disadvantage in that they are not used to having to come
    from behind, and it may shake their confidence to be behind in the 2nd
    half. We'll see. Kentucky is definitely hot right now, but I think it's
    too early to be crowning them champs. It only takes one "off" game, one
    time when you look beyond the current opponent to get the vacation.
302.478ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Fri Mar 22 1996 14:1411
    Kentucky can have an "off" game and still beat Wake, though.  I would
    like to see a Kentucky/UMass semi-final game, even had I not picked
    them both to be in the final 4.  
    
    UMass may have beat Kentucky early in the season, but this is a
    different Kentucky team today.  I do think that they will play extra
    hard to avenge their earlier loss to UMAss, should these two teams play
    each other in the semi-final. 
    
    
    -steve
302.479ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Mar 22 1996 14:2112
    
    .477
    
    well doc, you pretty much hit it on the head. I hope Kentucky learned
    it's lesson from the Miss St game. like you said if it's close, or
    their behind, they tend to panic. UMass looked good last night, and
    I hope they beat Georgetown. I picked UMass for my final 4. I don't
    get to see them that often, but I have liked what I have seen. Marcus
    Camby is definitely their top player. He will need to be at his best
    Saturday to counter balance Georgetown's big men. I think UMass
    and Kentucky will meet next Saturday for the chance to go to the big 
    dance.
302.480BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 14:373
    
    	Is this thing over yet?
    
302.481MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Mar 22 1996 14:382
Does this all have to do with some sort of ball game?

302.482ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Mar 22 1996 14:392
    
    no Jack, the weather.
302.483SCASS1::BARBER_Abreath in, breath outFri Mar 22 1996 14:411
    I hate sports.  
302.484WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Mar 22 1996 14:451
    don't hate sports because they're beautiful.
302.485POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Fri Mar 22 1996 14:461
    hate them because? ....
302.486SCASS1::BARBER_Abreath in, breath outFri Mar 22 1996 14:484
    I'm testosterone-impaired.  Just don't see the attraction. 
    Well, except for hocky...  I don't watch much of it, but it's pretty
    cool when they beat up on eachother.  Would like to see a live game
    real soon...maybe sometime in the middle of April.
302.487PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Mar 22 1996 14:513
  .486  you think it's cool when they beat up on each other?  you're
	kidding, right?
302.488SCASS1::BARBER_Abreath in, breath outFri Mar 22 1996 14:523
    I think it's cool when the refs just stand there and let it happen.  
    
    I went to a fight once and a hockey game broke out!  {har har}
302.489PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Mar 22 1996 14:584
  .488  so it's not the fight that's cool - it's the refs letting
	it happen that's cool?  i'm trying to get this straight and
	weigh it against your claims of being testosterone-impaired.
302.490SCASS1::BARBER_Abreath in, breath outFri Mar 22 1996 15:006
    Well, both really.  If you like hockey, you have to like the fighting,
    right? 
    
    When you have me all figured out, please let me know.  ;)
    
    
302.491BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 15:016
    
    	Hey, I'm testosterone-unimpaired and I don't like fighting.
    
    	Let's use a smaller brush, Diane, when painting the entire male
    	species as brainless brutes.
    
302.492ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Mar 22 1996 15:023
    
    well shawn, I could be wrong here, and I hope I'm not, but Di was
    referring to 'pril not men. hth
302.493SMURF::WALTERSFri Mar 22 1996 15:021
    'cept for Bri, where a 9" long nap roller would be more appropriate.
302.494NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Mar 22 1996 15:051
Izzat because he's hairy or because he takes a long nap afterwards?
302.495SCASS1::BARBER_Abreath in, breath outFri Mar 22 1996 15:072
    Let me clear something up, for Lady Di.  I don't like fighting, but I
    like watching it on TV.  Doesn't that make sense?  I didn't think so. 
302.496PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Mar 22 1996 15:096
    
>    	Let's use a smaller brush, Diane, when painting the entire male
>    	species as brainless brutes.

    give me a friggin' break, shawn.  i never implied that the entire
    "male species" were brainless brutes.
302.497BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 15:1011
    
    	RE: April
    
    	No, that doesn't make too much sense.
    
    	If you hated fighting, but didn't mind seeing it in movies,
    	that would be believable, since most movie fighting is fake.
    	But hockey fighting is quite real.
    
    	Not that anybody asked me, of course.  8^)
    
302.498SCASS1::BARBER_Abreath in, breath outFri Mar 22 1996 15:101
    So, it does make sense then?  8P
302.499BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 15:1212
    
    	RE: Diane
    
    	Then I guess I'd have to ask what your reasoning was for the
    	last part of .488.
    
    
    	RE: April
    
    	No, it doesn't make sense.  But who am I to say what you are
    	supposed to [not] like?  8^)
    
302.500PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Mar 22 1996 15:127
>        <<< Note 302.490 by SCASS1::BARBER_A "breath in, breath out" >>>

>    Well, both really.  If you like hockey, you have to like the fighting,
>    right? 

	no, i'd say that was incorrect.

302.501MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Fri Mar 22 1996 15:1410
    Di:
    
    To splain it more clearly...
    
    April is intrigued with the fighting as you are intrigued with death.
    
    It's sad to see a little antelope chased by a cheetah on the Discovery
    Channel.  At the same time it grabs one's interest!
    
    
302.502SCASS1::BARBER_Abreath in, breath outFri Mar 22 1996 15:174
    Oooooh!!  I was intrigued by the poor snowy egret getting chewed up by
    a pack of pirhanas the other night.  It was nothing but fish tails
    splashing and spinning for a straight 5 minutes.  The only thing left
    of the poor egret was a leg and some feathers.  8(   
302.503BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 15:1712
    
    >It's sad to see a little antelope chased by a cheetah on the Discovery
    >Channel.  At the same time it grabs one's interest!
    
    	But Jack, the 2 responses to the situation separate 1 class of
    	people from the other:
    
    	1) Go, cute little antelope!!  You can outrun him!!
    
    	2) Come on, cheetah ... go!!  Are you a man or a boy?!?!  Let
    	   that antelope get away and you'll never hear the end of it!!
    
302.504PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Mar 22 1996 15:2011
    
>    	Then I guess I'd have to ask what your reasoning was for the
>    	last part of .488.

	it was tongue-in-cheek.  she was claiming to be testosterone-
	impaired, presumably due to her lack of interest in sports.  
	that line of thinking should, one would think, mean that
	she probably considers beating other people up to be a 
	testosterone-motivated thing as well.  but she likes the fights.
	they're "cool".  that didn't jibe.

302.505ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckFri Mar 22 1996 15:202
    
    March Madness, people March Madness
302.506BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 15:237
    
    	RE: Diane
    
    	Ahhh, now I understand.  Make a blanket statement, let me call
    	you on it, and then claim that you were merely interpreting the
    	previous reply that way.
    
302.507PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Mar 22 1996 15:286
   .506  shawn, if you think that i think that all men are brainless
	 brutes, i assure you that you are wrong.  clearly, i will not
	 be able to explain, to your satisfaction, what was going on in
	 my tiny brain when i made that reply, so i will not try again.
	 i'm sorry if it seemed that i was damning men.  
302.508BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoFri Mar 22 1996 15:413

	I often hear the term, "DAMN MEN!"  So don't feel bad, milady. :-)
302.509SMURF::WALTERSFri Mar 22 1996 15:453
    >only thing left of the poor egret was a leg and some feathers.  8(   
    
    You have no egrets about watching that?
302.510BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 15:483
    
    	Apparently not.  She has an inheront thing for violence.
    
302.511PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Mar 22 1996 15:502
  <space allocated for obligatory ibis pun> 
302.512DPE1::ARMSTRONGFri Mar 22 1996 16:0533
    I've got to share a true story...

    My wife's hair dresser in Amherst, Mass is a local character
    named Silvio.  Very flambouant, from Italy, dresses like all get out.
    She's been going to him for about 15 years, has our kids hair
    cut there, etc.

    We were out to dinner last fall at a real nice Italian restaurant
    and she says 'Oh, there's Silvio'.  When we're done eating we
    went over to say Hi...I had never met him, but heard LOTS of Silvio
    stories.  He's eating with a few other people, a couple and a single
    guy.  We stood and chatted for about 10 minutes and they all seemed
    to be smiling about some joke that was going on that we weren't
    aware of.  We finally said goodby and left.

    About two weeks later she was getting her hair cut again and
    Silvio said 'how nice to see you', etc. etc.  And then he shared
    the joke.

    Silvio is a LONG time friend of John Callipari, the Umass coach.
    He has access to tickets (through John) to tickets to Umass games and also
    occasionally gets a basketball signed by all the players that might
    be raffled off at local charities.  That night Silvio and John Callipari
    had gone out to dinner with the coach of the other team Umass was
    playing.  All night long, people came walking up to their table
    to say hello and EVERYTIME it was someone who recognized Silvio
    and came over to chat....and NO ONE recognized John Callipari even once.
    Many people came up and thanked Silvio for tickets he had gotten them
    to the Umass games.  The other coach was in stitches......Now we
    know who's famous in Amherst, John!  Everytime someone would approach
    their table, John would sit right up straight and expect to have
    his autograph requested....and everytime it would be someone recognizing
    Silvio.  I guess it was quite a joke all night.
302.513WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Mar 22 1996 16:253
    listen 'pril, no need to try and back-pedal on this. if you like it you
    like it. that's fine. i like the excitement in hockey, in the ring, in
    basketball. no biggie. we all like you anyway. don't be shy.
302.514CNTROL::JENNISONJoin me in glad adorationFri Mar 22 1996 16:455
    
    	speaking of March madness, I'm amazed that diane even
    	bothered to explain herself to the slab...
    
    	
302.515BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 16:476
    
    	I guess not all women are stuck-up snobs who think that their
    	meaning was perfectly conveyed the 1st time.
    
    	8^)
    
302.516LANDO::OLIVER_BFri Mar 22 1996 16:473
    .514
    
    so was i.
302.517SCASS1::BARBER_Abreath in, breath outFri Mar 22 1996 17:111
    .513 thanks.  8)
302.518TROOA::BUTKOVICHChrisbert IncMon Mar 25 1996 01:447
    Wow!  Did you catch the Syracuse/Georgia game?  Nice last second basket
    to tie the game.
    
    I think I'm at 65 points and that's where I'm going to end up unless
    Kentucky keeps it going.  UConn and Georgetown blew it, but I think most
    of us picked them to go to the Final Four.  I'd like to see a
    Syracuse/Kentucky final.
302.519ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 11:0811
    
    UMass just kicked Georgetown's a** this past Saturday. I'm glad I
    picked them to beat Georgetown. In the Midwest and Southest regionals
    I was close to perfection. The West and East regionals, however were
    not exactly good to me. The real NCAA championship will be played at
    7:07 CST, when Kentucky and UMass square off. The winner of that game
    will win it all. Although I see an all SEC final in the making. Miss
    St looked great in defeating Cincinnati, and should handle Syracuse
    no problem. They are physical and fast, a nice combination to have,
    plus great guards. UMass deserves their no 1 ranking, they spanked
    a good Georgetown team soundly. Can't wait for this Saturday.
302.520WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureMon Mar 25 1996 11:1515
    >Georgetown blew it
    
     You make it sound like they didn't get hammered. UMASS crushed them.
    It's not like they were close but made a blunder that cost them the
    game. Georgetown had one decent run lead by some good shooting by
    Iverson in the first half, and UMASS answered and then some. They won
    going away. They put on a defensive clinic in the 2nd half, holding
    Iverson to a whopping 6 points (after he scored 17 in the first half)
    and Georgetown was allowed no inside game whatsoever when Camby was in
    the game.
    
     I've gotta agree with Battis; the championship will be held on
    saturday. You've gotta wonder why they put Kentucky and UMASS in the
    same bracket. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I think they are clearly the best
    two teams in the country, and have been all season.
302.521SHRCTR::PJOHNSONaut disce, aut discedeMon Mar 25 1996 11:401
Good reason to reseed the finals!
302.522ACIS04::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 25 1996 11:5417
    Doc has the right of it.  UMass outplayed Georgetown, period.  
    
    My spoiler sheet is doing pretty well, even though Kansas blew it. 
    They should have given up on their 3-pt shots early on, but they kept
    tossing up bricks (2 for 23 or some such).  Had they hit just 20% of
    their 3's (most of which were open shots), they would have won
    handily.  Had they won, I would have been 4 for 4 in my final 4 picks
    (spoiler sheet- the other sheet is dead), and would have taken a
    commanding lead in pool the here. 
    
    Not only could they not hit 3's, but they must have missed 12 layups in
    that game.  Truly an astoundingly bad performance; it was amazing that
    they were even in the game at the end.
    
    I found the officiating to be less than even-handed, though I'm not
    sure it made much of a difference.  Kansas couldn't hit much of
    anything, and that was what lost them the game.
302.5237' + talentGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseMon Mar 25 1996 12:115
    
      Marcus Camby won the Naismith.  Do you suppose he will get a
     good pro contract ?
    
      bb
302.524BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon Mar 25 1996 12:133

	Camby is a wuss. :-)  Just kidding. 
302.525quitPOLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Mon Mar 25 1996 12:291
    
302.526ECADSR::ARMSTRONGMon Mar 25 1996 12:335
    Marcus Camby is an Education Major and did his student teaching
    this year in a nearby middle school.  the kids said he was
    real nice but didn't seem to know much about teaching.  The school
    had a rule that there were no autographs during school hours.
    bob
302.527GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Mon Mar 25 1996 14:233
    This past weekend was my demise, as far as the pool is concerned.
    Except for that, I liked the outcome. Now we just need UMass to beat
    Kentucky!! 
302.528ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 14:283
    
    
    but, but, Tom what happened to Georgetown??? UMass express, maybe?
302.529BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon Mar 25 1996 15:473

	I need UMASS to beat Kentucky in order to have anyone in the finals. 
302.530ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 15:553
    
    I am sure mz_debra will update the standings tomorrow, when she gets
    in.
302.531ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 25 1996 17:2023
    If Kentucky beats UMass, I will take 2nd place in the pool here.  If 
    Kentucky wins the championship game, I win the pool.  My main sheet is
    doa...I will not win even the Soapbox pool with it.  8^)
    
    GO KENTUCKY!!!
    
    Syracuse really hurt my sheet.  Had Kansas won, I would have taken over
    1st by a good margin, and would only need Kentucky to win one more game to
    insure my victory.  
    
    Oh well, at least I'm in the running with the favored team as my
    remaining pick.  Could be a lot worse.  8^) 
    
    As a side note, I will be rootin' for Miss. St. to beat Syracuse, even
    though the outcome of this game matters not one iota in the pool. 
    [Everyone is dead in the water on that side of the sheet.]  I would
    like to see an all SEC final game.  This should prove the need to
    revamp the ratings a bit.  Big 10 is rated too high (as their quick
    mass-exodus from the tourney proved), and the SEC is rated far below what 
    it should be (two sweet 16 teams and two final 4 teams).
    
    
    -steve
302.532POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksMon Mar 25 1996 17:2716
    
    Here are the points in the pool as of the 8.  I haven't done as of the
    4 yet.
    
    Mark	68
    Steve, Pete	67
    Me		66
    Greg	65
    Glenn	63
    Tom*  	62
    Chris*	61
    
    I know UMass and Kentucky are in the Final 4.  Who else?  I'm home sick
    and have no newspaper 8^).
    
    
302.533TROOA::BUTKOVICHChrisbert IncMon Mar 25 1996 17:394
    Syracuse and Miss State
    
    P.S. - I think I should have either 57 points or 65 points - you are
    either being too generous, or not generous enough 8*)
302.534POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksMon Mar 25 1996 17:4812
    
    As of the Final Four:
    
    Mark	84
    Pete	83
    Glenn	79
    Steve	75
    Me		74
    Greg	73
    Tom*	70
    Chris*	69
    
302.535ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 17:515
    
    well Steve, how do you figure on beating me?? I have Kentucky going all
    the way, and you are 1 point behind me.
    
    Mark
302.536ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 17:522
    
    steve, make that 9 points.
302.537ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 17:553
    
    so if kentucky wins on saturday, I win the soapbox pool?? and if that
    is true, what do i win?? photo's from mz_debra??
302.538NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 25 1996 17:561
A Ronco Apostrophe Remover.
302.539ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 18:052
    
    <-- isn't that nice.
302.540BUSY::SLABOUNTYSlugmania ... catch it!!Mon Mar 25 1996 18:085
    
    	Hey, at least it'd be a gift you could use.
    
    	What do you want, another brown necktie or something?  8^)
    
302.541ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 18:112
    
    well shawn, a date with mz_debra, will do nicely.
302.542PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 25 1996 18:122
  he needs the ronco comma thing-me, too.
302.543NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 25 1996 18:151
Di, they have a new model.  You turn it upside down for comma removal.
302.544BUSY::SLABOUNTYSlugmania ... catch it!!Mon Mar 25 1996 18:1611
    
    	RE: Battis
    
    	Well, "a date with Mz. Deb" would be a bad choice as a prize,
    	since if she won she'd have nothing to look forward to.
    
    	RE: Diane
    
    	I guess he'll have to win it next year for that ... I'm sure
    	that the pool officials have to draw the line somewhere.
    
302.545PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 25 1996 18:172
 .543  ah.  thats very, practical.
302.546NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 25 1996 18:181
Di, it looks like you need the combination apostrophe _inserter_ comma remover.
302.547BUSY::SLABOUNTYSlugmania ... catch it!!Mon Mar 25 1996 18:194
    
    	Couldn't that all be done with the same model, just by adding a
    	reverse switch?
    
302.548PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 25 1996 18:215
  .547  i suggested that before, but you - you brainless brute - you
	chose to steal my idea.  isnt that just like, you.


302.549NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 25 1996 18:212
That should only be undertaken by a licensed electrician, and it voids the
warranty.
302.550ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 18:232
    
    well, see!! I am good for something, cheap entertainment.
302.551SMURF::WALTERSMon Mar 25 1996 18:261
    It's called the Comma Chameleon.
302.552ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 25 1996 18:3014
    Well Mark, as I said, my main pool sheet is dead.  No hope for it at
    all.
    
    My "spoiler" sheet, however, is not doing too bad with 94 points.  Of
    course, it doesn't count in Soapbox, but it does count where it counts. 
    8^)   Should have 102, but Kansas croaked (yes, I'm still whining about
    that game...a 16 pt. turnaround in the standings, since the first place
    guy picked Syracuse).  
    
    As it stands, I'm in second- first place has 105 pts, but he picked UC to 
    go all the way.  He has Kentucky going to the final game, too, thus I 
    need Kentucky to win both games for me to win the pool.
    
    Go Kentucky!!
302.553ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 18:323
    
    I have no idea how I'm doing in my brother's pool at work. I do know
    that I have more points in his than I do in soapbox.
302.554BUSY::SLABOUNTYSlugmania ... catch it!!Mon Mar 25 1996 18:3810
    
  >.547  i suggested that before, but you - you brainless brute - you
  >	chose to steal my idea.  isnt that just like, you.
    
    
    	Oops, how typically male of me to steal an idea and claim it
    	as my own.  So I guess it would do no good, or just appear to
    	be even more typically male of me, to say that I didn't know
    	that you had already suggested that?
    
302.555PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 25 1996 18:433
  .554  ah yes, the Ronco Memory-Be-Gone.  very handy.  run on them
	lately in DC.
302.556BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon Mar 25 1996 18:488
| <<< Note 302.541 by ACISS1::BATTIS "A few cards short of a full deck" >>>


| well shawn, a date with mz_debra, will do nicely.

	Deb, will you agree to this? Mark will pay for all expenses. And if
memory serves me correct, the way you would go to Chicago would be to head east
of Boston, right?
302.557ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 19:102
    
    well try west, you may make it by late summer if you start walking now.
302.558POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksTue Mar 26 1996 01:2017
    
    I DID make an error on Christine's sheet.  Duh.
    
    Again, as of the Final Four:
    
    Mark	84
    Pete	83
    Glenn	79
    Steve	75
    Me		74
    Greg	73
    Tom*	70
    Chris*	65
    
    When are the next games?  Or have they already been played?  I slept
    all day and have no clue 8^).
    
302.559SHRCTR::PJOHNSONaut disce, aut discedeTue Mar 26 1996 07:123
Saturday, about 5:30 and 8.

Pete
302.560ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Tue Mar 26 1996 11:337
    Steve (spoiler sheet):  94
    Mark		 :  84
                         :  ..
                         :  ..
                         :  ..
    
    8^)  
302.561WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureTue Mar 26 1996 12:061
    Given enough tries, even Leech can do well. :-)
302.562ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckTue Mar 26 1996 12:115
    
    well doc, I was thinking of your comments from yesterday while reading
    an article in the Trib today. Sam Smith the basketball writer for the
    paper was saying what a tragedy that UMass and Kentucky have to meet
    in the semi-finals, rather than in the championship game.
302.563CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsTue Mar 26 1996 12:297
    
    	My husband and I are tied at 76 points each.
    
    	Saturday will decide it, as I picked Kentucky and he picked UMass.
    
    	Karen
    
302.564ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckTue Mar 26 1996 12:324
    
    .563
    
    Karen, I take it dinner is on the loser?
302.565ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Tue Mar 26 1996 12:383
    .561
    
    You should see my third sheet...the one I didn't turn in anywhere.  8^) 
302.566POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Tue Mar 26 1996 12:411
    Boy, you guys throw food on each other?
302.567WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureTue Mar 26 1996 12:543
    >I take it dinner is on the loser?
    
     Kinky.
302.568BUSY::SLABOUNTYStomp your hands, clap your feetTue Mar 26 1996 13:237
    
    >>I take it dinner is on the loser?
    >
    > Kinky.
    
    	You think that's kinky?  Maybe dessert is on the winner.
    
302.569GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Tue Mar 26 1996 13:302
    Do I get anything for coming in last? :) By the way, I think you can
    remove the * now. :)
302.570ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckTue Mar 26 1996 14:203
    
    yes Tom, we have some lovely parting gifts for our contestants, tell
    them what they've won mz_debra.
302.571POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksTue Mar 26 1996 15:433
    
    A Ronco Comma Inserter!
    
302.572GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Tue Mar 26 1996 20:301
    I'll take it! I hope I'm last, I hope I'm last!!   :)
302.573CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsWed Mar 27 1996 16:574
    
    	Hubby will buy me dinner when Kentucky beats UMass.
    
    	
302.574CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesWed Mar 27 1996 17:011
    Kentucky fried chicken?
302.575WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureWed Mar 27 1996 17:083
    >	Hubby will buy me dinner when Kentucky beats UMass.
    
     It may be a long wait.
302.576LANDO::OLIVER_BWed Mar 27 1996 17:121
    Go UMass!!!
302.577ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckWed Mar 27 1996 17:232
    
    no, no bonnie, you go to mass. hth
302.578GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Wed Mar 27 1996 17:564
     >   Hubby will buy me dinner when Kentucky beats UMass.
    
    And they will. Of course you can tell from the pool how much I know
    about college basketball.  :)
302.579ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Wed Mar 27 1996 18:174
    Has anyone heard the point spread for the Kentucky UMass game?  Just
    curious.
    
    Go Kentucky!!!
302.580WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureWed Mar 27 1996 18:211
    Kentucky -8.5
302.581Go Kentucky!ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Wed Mar 27 1996 18:511
    Thanks.  
302.582ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckWed Mar 27 1996 19:252
    
    a large point spread, if you ask me.
302.583BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoWed Mar 27 1996 19:574

	Not when you compare it to whoever has to play one of these teams in
the finals!
302.584ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Mar 28 1996 11:144
    
    Glen, it is a very large spread considering UMass is the number 1
    ranked team in the country. Kentucky is number 2. point spread should
    have been 2-3 maximum.
302.585SUBSYS::NEUMYERYour memory still hangin roundThu Mar 28 1996 12:455
    
    And that UMass beat Kentucky once this season. This is one game that
    should be a pick-um. 
    
    ed
302.586Go UMass!LANDO::OLIVER_BThu Mar 28 1996 14:402
    it's a funny thing.  in the final analysis, the _players_
    determine the point spread.  heh heh.
302.587CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Mar 28 1996 15:1310


 What time are the games Saturday?  And, when is the final game?





 Jim
302.588ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Mar 28 1996 15:457
    
    Jim,
    
    Saturday's are at 4:00-4:15 and the Kentucky game is at 7:10 these
    are CST times.
    
    Monday's is 9:00 EST
302.589CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Mar 28 1996 15:547

 Thanks!



 Jim
302.590PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 28 1996 16:307
  it's down to my brother and another guy, out of the pool of 25
  players they were in.  so they decided to split the pot now, so
  that they can both root for UMass (my brother has UMass).  i
  thought that was quite sporting of them.  oh yes.


302.591Go Kentucky!!!ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Mar 28 1996 16:401
    Which one picked Kentucky?
302.592ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Mar 28 1996 16:404
    
    That way they both come out ahead. fear not, Kentucky will prevail,
    if for no other reason than Oph rooting for UMass. Let it be written,
    let it be done.
302.593WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureThu Mar 28 1996 16:421
    What say, Oph? Let's go give Battis a royal pounding.
302.594PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 28 1996 16:446
>             <<< Note 302.591 by ACISS2::LEECH "Dia do bheatha." >>>

>    Which one picked Kentucky?

	er, are you talkin' to me?  'cuz if so, i already answered that.

302.595ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Mar 28 1996 16:471
    Sorry, must have missed it...
302.596PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 28 1996 16:504
  yes, well it's my brother who has UMass, as i said in .590.
  that _was_ a while ago. ;>

302.597BUSY::SLABOUNTYBaroque: when you're out of MonetThu Mar 28 1996 16:523
    
    	Well, it WAS a full 10 minutes.  Understandable.
    
302.598LANDO::OLIVER_BThu Mar 28 1996 17:094
    |What say, Oph? Let's go give Battis a royal pounding.
    
    Plenty of time for that on Monday, Mark ;-)
    
302.599ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Mar 28 1996 17:236
    
    you both understand that I will be crowing Kentucky's virtues on
    Monday, but don't feel bad, I won't rub it in too much....... 
    
    I was *meant* to win the soapbox pool, and Kentucky will not let
    me down.
302.600CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Mar 28 1996 17:295



 He fiddles and diddles, diddles and fiddles..he stops, he pops he Snarfs!
302.601WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureThu Mar 28 1996 17:312
    If Kentucky wins, Battis can expect to see "connection refused by
    remote node" until June. :-)
302.602ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Mar 28 1996 18:2411
    GGGGGGGG     OOOOOOOO                             !!
   GG      GG   OO      OO                            !!
   GG           OO      OO                            !!
   GG           OO      OO                            !!
   GG   GGGGG   OO      OO         KENTUCKY           !!
   GG      GG   OO      OO
   GG      GG   OO      OO
    GGGGGGGG     OOOOOOOO                             !! 
    
    
    Sorry, K E N T U C K Y  wouldn't quite fit on my screen...   8^)
302.603Go Kentucky. Go HOME, Kentucky.WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureThu Mar 28 1996 18:291
    Apparently "home" couldn't, either.
302.604LANDO::OLIVER_BThu Mar 28 1996 18:311
    maybe next year, kentucky.
302.605BUSY::SLABOUNTYBe gone - you have no powers hereThu Mar 28 1996 18:4113
    
    	I seem to recall that most letters can be legibly reporduced in
    	a 5x7 grid.  I'll see if I can do it here:
    
    
    	ggggg ooooo   k   k eeeee n   n ttttt u   u ccccc k   k y   y !
    	g     o   o   k   k e     nn  n   t   u   u c     k   k y   y !
    	g     o   o   k  k  e     n n n   t   u   u c     k  k  y   y !
    	g  gg o   o   kkk   eee   n n n   t   u   u c     kkk   yyyyy !
    	g   g o   o   k  k  e     n  nn   t   u   u c     k  k    y   !
    	g   g o   o   k   k e     n   n   t   u   u c     k   k   y   !
    	ggggg ooooo   k   k eeeee n   n   t   uuuuu ccccc k   k   y   !
    
302.606Go Kentucky!!ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Mar 28 1996 18:461
    It looks like "GOKENTUCKY!".  
302.607OK, a couple more spaces for you ...BUSY::SLABOUNTYBe gone - you have no powers hereThu Mar 28 1996 18:499
    
        ggggg ooooo       k   k eeeee n   n ttttt u   u ccccc k   k y   y !
    	g     o   o       k   k e     nn  n   t   u   u c     k   k y   y !
    	g     o   o       k  k  e     n n n   t   u   u c     k  k  y   y !
    	g  gg o   o       kkk   eee   n n n   t   u   u c     kkk   yyyyy !
    	g   g o   o       k  k  e     n  nn   t   u   u c     k  k    y   !
    	g   g o   o       k   k e     n   n   t   u   u c     k   k   y   !
    	ggggg ooooo       k   k eeeee n   n   t   uuuuu ccccc k   k   y   !
    
302.608ACISS2::LEECHGo Kentucky!!Thu Mar 28 1996 18:581
    That one looks okay...
302.609BUSY::SLABOUNTYBe gone - you have no powers hereThu Mar 28 1996 18:593
    
    	I hope so, 'coz WYSIWYG.
    
302.610BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu Mar 28 1996 18:593

	Kentucky can't beat Umass. It's against the law!
302.611LANDO::OLIVER_BThu Mar 28 1996 19:002
    there's no dot under the exclamation point.  no point 
    for kentucky. :-(
302.612DPE1::ARMSTRONGThu Mar 28 1996 19:397
    Since Amherst, Mass (home of UMass) is almost a neighboring
    town, I'll be rooting for UMass.

    Tipoff for Miss./Syracuse is 5:42 'UMass time'.

    the UMass game starts 1/2 hour after Miss. wins the first game.
    bob
302.613SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsThu Mar 28 1996 19:486
    
    
    Hmmm.. this "March Madness" thing... 
    
    Are you folks talking about the NBA minor-league system here??
    
302.614LANDO::OLIVER_BThu Mar 28 1996 19:551
    it's either that or cows.
302.615BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughThu Mar 28 1996 19:555
    
    	NCAA.
    
    	Yes.
    
302.616BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughThu Mar 28 1996 19:553
    
    	Andy, are you really as naive as you want us to believe?
    
302.617LANDO::OLIVER_BThu Mar 28 1996 19:561
    hmmm.  in what sense do you mean, shawn?
302.618SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsThu Mar 28 1996 19:5710
    
    
    Ummm... think about what I wrote, Shawn....
    
    
    
    You tell me what YOU think NCAA basketball is...
    
    
    How many diplomas are coming outta the "C" part of NCAA???
302.619BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughThu Mar 28 1996 20:005
    
    	Well, I guess it's late or I'm tired or the moon isn't full
    	because I'm lost here.  And it's definitely too late to start
    	thinking now.
    
302.620SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsThu Mar 28 1996 20:057
    
    
    You ain't lost....
    
    I just wanted to carry on the great tradition of the 'box and start
    some kinda rat-hole before I left for the night...
    
302.621BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu Mar 28 1996 23:287

	Andy, college can't be minor league. I don't know any of them that the
Celtics could beat. 


Glen
302.622tough ticket !GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseFri Mar 29 1996 11:406
    
      Serious scalping going on.  One student reported selling the
     four tickets he won in the UMASS student ticket loterry for
     $16,000, with which an automobile was purchased.
    
      bb
302.623ACISS2::LEECHGo Kentucky!!Fri Mar 29 1996 11:591
    $4,000 per ticket?!  That's crazy.
302.624SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsFri Mar 29 1996 12:013
    
    What's crazy is the idiot that paid the money....
    
302.625The student wasn't crazy at all...ACISS2::LEECHGo Kentucky!!Fri Mar 29 1996 12:031
    <--- Well, that's sort of what I was inferring in my last note...
302.626SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsFri Mar 29 1996 12:054
    
    
    Sorry...(tm)
    
302.627WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureFri Mar 29 1996 12:256
    That's crazy because we don't have the kind of money that puts such a
    purchase within the realm of possibility. If you had more money than
    you could ever possibly spend, if money were truly no object, then it
    would be worth it. Think of it this way, if it would be worth $10 a
    ticket for you to see the game, then that's the same thing as $4000 a
    ticket for someone with 400 times your disposable income.
302.628DPE1::ARMSTRONGFri Mar 29 1996 13:018
    Our local paper carried another complaint about tickets.
    Of the tickets that UMass gets for the game, about 500 were
    allocated to season ticket holders.  these are offered first to
    those who have contributed the most to UMass and other considerations.
    One requirement for purchasing the tickets (at $35 per game for
    4 games) is that you must also purchase 4 nights in the NCAA hotel
    at about $200 per night.  So going to these games adds up to
    serious change!
302.629ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionFri Mar 29 1996 13:113
    
    well paying $4,000 just to see UMass go down to defeat, seems to be
    a double ouch, if you're a UMass fan.
302.630CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsFri Mar 29 1996 14:4013
    
    	Keeping up the madness theme, last night I invited 2 UMass 
    	graduates to join us at our house for game watching.  This morning,
    	my husband said he plans to call another friend, also a UMass
    	graduate, and invite him.
    
    	These guys are big.  I may have to root for UMass just to 
    	stay alive ;-)
    
    	(Actually, I confessed to them that this is one bet I don't mind
    	losing.)
    
    
302.631ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionFri Mar 29 1996 15:472
    
    <------ traitor
302.632ACISS2::LEECHGo Kentucky!!Fri Mar 29 1996 16:001
    indeed...
302.633CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsFri Mar 29 1996 16:026
    
    	Hey, I'm outnumbered!  
    
    	Or do you really want me to perish ?
    
    
302.634ACISS2::LEECHGo Kentucky!!Fri Mar 29 1996 16:213
    You can secretly root for Kentucky, while faking enthusiasm when UMass
    scores.  If Kentucky wins, don't gloat vocally, just smile a lot and
    start paging through the resteraunt section of the yellow pages.  8^)
302.635ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionFri Mar 29 1996 16:433
    
    Karen, after Kentucky wipes up the floor with UMass, you can have
    your husband take U to Mass.
302.636CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsFri Mar 29 1996 17:015
    
    	We'll be in Mass. already!  He'll take me to Peppe's Trattoria,
    	or Scioletti's Italian Eatery, or The East Park Grille.
    
    
302.637ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionFri Mar 29 1996 17:302
    
    Dinner always tastes better when its free.
302.638Top this!SHRCTR::PJOHNSONaut disce, aut discedeFri Mar 29 1996 17:3612
Oh yeah, well get this: 2500 tickets aere due UMass as their share
from NCAA. Alum got 800, students got 800, leaving 900. Where did they
go?

Bulger. In this state, who else? I mean, the Speaker arrived from his
deal to turn felon to the cheers of the House as if he had just walked
on the moon!

This state has the sorriest excuse for gummint that I have ever heard
of. I am depressed.

Peet
302.639Go Kentucky!!!ACISS2::LEECHGo Kentucky!!Fri Mar 29 1996 19:597
    Well, what most consider to be the championship game happens tomorrow
    evening.  
    
    There is no point to this note, as everyone knows this already.  I just
    wanted to post one more  GO KENTUCKY!!! before I left for the
    weekend...for good luck.  8^)
    
302.640LANDO::OLIVER_BCamby can do!Fri Mar 29 1996 20:081
    GO UMASS!!!!!!!!!!
302.641POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksSun Mar 31 1996 21:1113
    
    As of last night's games:
    
    Mark	96
    Glenn	91
    Steve	87
    Greg 	85
    Peet	83
    Chris*	77
    Me		74 <-- 8^p
    Tom*	70
    
    
302.642WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureMon Apr 01 1996 11:186
    Well, UMASS fell. Bummer. They didn't play particularly well, and still
    had a chance to win when they got the Kentucky lead from 15 down to 3
    with a couple minutes remaining. In the end, they couldn't make the big
    plays, and Kentucky has the right to pummel Syracuse (Syracuse?) in
    tonights championship game. UMASS showed a lot of heart on saturday.
    Thanks for the ride, guys.
302.643ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionMon Apr 01 1996 12:322
    
    Does this mean I can keep my p_name for awhile?
302.644ACISS2::LEECHGo Kentucky!!Mon Apr 01 1996 13:0932
    Kentucky/UMass was a good game.  I thought it was all but over when
    Kentucky took a 15 point lead in the second half, but UMass wouldn't
    quit.  They have a lot of grit, hanging in there when it was looking
    like a blowout in the making.  They were in it to the end.  Only an
    awesome Kentucky defense (and some KEY free throws) gave the Wildcats
    the W.
    
    I was about ready to pull my hair out when UMass brought it within 3
    with just over a minute to go.  What is it they say...a pressing team
    does not like to be pressed?  UMass caused some turnovers with their
    press to get back into the game...I thought Kentucky was going to
    buckle under the press, but after it got REAL close, they took care of
    the ball.  Good thing, too, or they would have lost.
    
    I give UMass a lot of credit for coming back (again and again), they
    are a very good ball club.
    
    
    I was a bit disappointed with the Syracuse/Miss. St. game, however
    (though not because it hurt my pool standings in any way...it didn't 
    8^) ).  I was not expecting the sloppy play I saw from a ball club that
    played so well against UConn and UC.  I was not expecting a defense
    that kept these two excellent ball clubs to 35% shooting or worse, to
    allow Syracuse to shoot over 50%.  I was not expecting 19 turnovers in 
    the first half, nor the lack of a patient offense (when they were
    certainly patient in the previously mentioned games).
    
    They were lucky to even be in the game the way they played...I wonder
    if they took Syracuse seriously or not?  Anyway, cudos to Syracuse for
    executing their game plan well.
    
    I wonder what the point spread will be in the final game? 
302.645WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureMon Apr 01 1996 13:101
    It's currently ~12.5
302.646LANDO::OLIVER_BCamby can do!Mon Apr 01 1996 13:193
    the umass team just couldn't get it into fourth gear...
    their rally was impressive...kentucky's defense was
    awesome...oh well, camby's only a junior ;-)
302.647ACISS2::LEECHGo Kentucky!!Mon Apr 01 1996 13:292
    Will Camby play another year, or will he allow himself to be snagged by
    the NBA?
302.648PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Apr 01 1996 13:303
  congratulations, mr. battis, for a job well done.

302.649ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionMon Apr 01 1996 14:053
    
    thanks di!!! The spread I saw for tonights game was 14. Kentucky will
    win by 12-15. imho that is.
302.650GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Mon Apr 01 1996 14:062
    mz_debra, I'll expect that Ronco Comma Inserter at my door no later
    than Friday!   :)
302.651LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthMon Apr 01 1996 14:114
    |Will Camby play another year, or will he allow himself to be
    |snagged by the NBA?
    
    good question...
302.652ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionMon Apr 01 1996 14:172
    
    My bet is that he will turn pro.
302.653BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon Apr 01 1996 15:295

	If he turns pro, and the Celtics win the lottery, it would be cool to
have him here. It would be cool to have talent on the team. I just hope they
have a real coach by then.
302.654CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsMon Apr 01 1996 16:4311
    
    	I've got 92 points after Saturday's game.
    
    	I ended up with 5 UMass graduates at my house, but since I served
    	them grilled sausages and various other tasty treats, they let me
    	live.
    
    	It was a hollow victory.  I even cheered for UMass near the
    	end, but it wasn't to be.  I'll have to find a way to enjoy
    	my free dinner ;-)
    
302.655LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthMon Apr 01 1996 16:501
    there is a free dinner, karen.
302.656CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsMon Apr 01 1996 17:363
    
    	That remains to be seen, no ?
    
302.657LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthMon Apr 01 1996 19:551
    whoops.  yes it does!  
302.658ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionMon Apr 01 1996 20:252
    
    Karen, rest assured Kentucky will crush Syracuse with impunity.
302.659CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsMon Apr 01 1996 20:387
    
    	I've already won.  I did pick Kentucky to go all the way,
    	but my husband is totally out of the tournament now.  He
    	probably won't even watch tonight.
    
    	ha ha...
    
302.660WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureTue Apr 02 1996 11:082
    Too bad the Kentucky that showed up last night didn't show up against
    UMASS.
302.661ACISS2::LEECHGo Kentucky!!Tue Apr 02 1996 12:2316
    <--- No, not too bad at all.  If the same Kentucky from last night would
    have played UMass, I would not be winner of this year's pool.   8^)
    
    They shot 3's okay, but that's about it.  Kentucky really looked bad
    for most of the game.  Their defense was only good in spurts, too. 
    I'm really surprised that Kentucky wasn't sharper than they were in THE
    championship game.  I wonder if they took Syracuse seriously?  Shades
    of Houston/NC State...Houston was by far the better team, but they
    didn't show up in the championship game.  Kentucky was JUST good enough
    to win, unlike the 1983 Houston team, who lost in the last few seconds.
    
    Syracuse played well, though.  Gotta give them some credit for keeping
    it a close game.  A well coached and gritty ball club.
    
    
    -steve                                                
302.662ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionTue Apr 02 1996 12:493
    
    I sense a little bitterness from the doctah, regarding UMass's demise
    and Kentucky's win last night. or I could be totally off target.
302.663WAHOO::LEVESQUEput the opening in backTue Apr 02 1996 13:212
    Very little bitterness. Like I said before, it was a fun ride. It
    nearly went the whole way. I can live with that.
302.664GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Tue Apr 02 1996 13:534
    re: .661
    
    Steve, I may be wrong (it happens once a year or so) but didn't NC
    State defeat Georgetown in 1983, not Houston??
302.665BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 02 1996 14:013

	No more Dick Vitel for a long time! YES!!!!
302.666BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 02 1996 14:0122
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302.667NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Apr 02 1996 14:101
Folx, it's April and the tournament is over.  Give it a rest.
302.668BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 02 1996 14:144

	I was hoping they would give Dick Vitel a rest all year. He is so damn
annoying!
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302.670ACISS2::LEECHUNofficial 'box NCAA pool winnerTue Apr 02 1996 15:3012
    .664
    
    Nope.  NC State beat Houston to win the chapionship.  Houston was far
    superior, yet was taken out of their game by some excellent coaching
    and execution on the part of NC State.
    
    Now, I'm pretty sure it was 1983, but it could have been 1984, I
    suppose (but I don't think so).  I remember watching this game, in any
    case.  8^)
    
    
    -steve
302.671POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Tue Apr 02 1996 15:391
    So, what are the final scores?
302.672POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksTue Apr 02 1996 16:1214
    
    Final Rankings in the Soapbox Pool:
    
    Mark	112
    Glenn	107
    Steve	103
    Greg 	101
    Chris*	 93
    Peet	 83
    Me		 74 <-- 8^p
    Tom*	 70
    
    
                                       
302.673POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Tue Apr 02 1996 16:381
    I'll get you next year Battis!
302.674POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksTue Apr 02 1996 16:514
    
    And your little dog, too!
    
    
302.675WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Apr 02 1996 16:551
    here Toto, here Toto...
302.676BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 02 1996 16:585
| <<< Note 302.671 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Alrighty, bye bye then." >>>

| So, what are the final scores?

	There are no scores if it is final.
302.677ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionTue Apr 02 1996 17:087
    
    Glenn, if I'm still *here* next year, I will win it again.
    
    Glen it's Dick Vitale.
    
    now mz_debra, what's my prize for winning the soapbox tourny??
    A date with you???
302.678POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Tue Apr 02 1996 17:101
    Interesting that a Canadian came in second, eh?
302.679BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 02 1996 17:118
| <<< Note 302.677 by ACISS1::BATTIS "Soapbox NCAA Champion" >>>


| Glen it's Dick Vitale.

	Actually, it's just Dick.


302.680WAHOO::LEVESQUEput the opening in backTue Apr 02 1996 17:145
    /now mz_debra, what's my prize for winning the soapbox tourny??
    /A date with you???
    
     Actually, you get a print out of her scanned 'boxpage picture and a
    couple of tissues.
302.681POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Tue Apr 02 1996 17:192
    I would advise against giving away tissue samples. Even a lock of hair
    can be tampered with these days.
302.682ACISS2::LEECHUNofficial 'box NCAA pool winnerTue Apr 02 1996 17:353
    re: .671
    
    My spoiler sheet racked up 142 points.
302.683ACISS2::LEECHUNofficial 'box NCAA pool winnerTue Apr 02 1996 17:376
    .677
    
    >if I'm still *here* next year, I will win it again.
    
    Don't count on it.  Next year I'll enter my spoiler sheet as my
    official box entry.  8^) 
302.684BUSY::SLABOUNTYForm feed = &lt;ctrl&gt;v &lt;ctrl&gt;lTue Apr 02 1996 17:383
    
    	What's a spoiler sheet, and why didn't you use it in here?
    
302.685ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionTue Apr 02 1996 17:384
    
    .683
    
    steve, you're taking this defeat much to hard.
302.686WAHOO::LEVESQUEput the opening in backTue Apr 02 1996 17:391
     It's his way of hedging when he bets on all the favorites.
302.687ACISS2::LEECHUNofficial 'box NCAA pool winnerTue Apr 02 1996 18:4115
    .684
    
    My spoiler sheet is posted in here.  Since it was my second entry (I
    entered both sheets in the local pool, so I thought I'd enter both
    here), I said it didn't really have to count.
    
    A "spoiler" sheet is a pool sheet that I enter every year in which I
    pick what I think are likely upsets that I was hesitant to pick on my
    main sheet (like Miss. St. going to the final 4...I thought it a
    distinct possibility, but not a likely reality). 
    
    I nearly didn't enter a second sheet this year...glad I changed my
    mind.  8^)d
    
    
302.688BUSY::SLABOUNTYGTI 16V - dust thy neighbor!!Tue Apr 02 1996 18:458
    
    	That's what I thought it was.
    
    	That explained, why not just enter a sheet for every possible
    	outcome?  Then you're guaranteed to win the pool.
    
    	8^)
    
302.689just giving Mark a hard time... 8^)ACISS2::LEECHUNofficial 'box NCAA pool winnerTue Apr 02 1996 18:456
    .686
    
    No hedging...I lost the pool here in the 'box fair and square.  I did
    enter both of the sheets posted here, in the local pool (I usually enter
    two sheets each year).  Battis is the winner here, but I won where it
    counts.  I am a tad richer today, I am, and quite happy about it.  8^)
302.690ACISS2::LEECHUNofficial 'box NCAA pool winnerTue Apr 02 1996 18:498
    .688
    
    Because it's $5 per sheet to enter, that's why.  There comes a point of
    diminishing returns quite quickly.  8^)  Two sheets is the most I ever
    enter, in any case.  
    
    I just wanted Mark to know that my spoiler sheet won big...even though
    it doesn't count.  8^)  
302.691BUSY::SLABOUNTYGTI 16V - dust thy neighbor!!Tue Apr 02 1996 18:5713
    
    	Yes, $5/sheet puts quite a damper on that idea.
    
    	Or does it?  Do you win the entire pot if you win?  If so,
    	let's say you put in W sheets at 5W dollars, and everyone
    	else puts in Y sheets at 5Y dollars.  The pot is now at
    	5W + 5Y dollars.  If you win, you get 5W + 5Y dollars,
    	which is everything.  A tie would complicate it, though,
    	since it would reduce your winnings to 2.5W + 2.5Y dollars,
    	so you'd have to be the last 1 to enter your sheets and
    	make sure that you only submitted, max, 1/2 the total numb-
    	er of sheets to the pool.
    
302.692BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 02 1996 19:018

	I wonder is Steve uses a spoiler Constitution and Bill of Rights like
he does for the Basketball Tournament? It might explain why we can't figure him
out in those topics, either.


Glen
302.693ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionTue Apr 02 1996 19:182
    
    I got a rock.
302.694ACISS2::LEECHextremistTue Apr 02 1996 19:2914
    .691
    
    The winnings are split as follows:
    
    1st place: 50%
    2nd place: 30%
    3rd place: 20%
    
    
    You reach a point of diminishing returns pretty fast.  Two sheets
    is plenty.  
    
    
    -steve
302.695BUSY::SLABOUNTYGTI 16V - dust thy neighbor!!Tue Apr 02 1996 19:325
    
    	2 it is.
    
    	8^)
    
302.696GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Wed Apr 03 1996 13:495
    Steve was correct about the 1983 NCAA final. NC State defeated Houston
    54-52. It was North Carolina that defeated Georgetown 63-62 in 1982. As
    an extra bonus Georgetown defeated Houston 84-75 in 1984. I should know
    better than to doubt Steve when it comes to the NCAA tourney. Of course
    it could be that I'm 45 now and have developed brain dislexia.  :)
302.697ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Feb 07 1997 16:385
    
    It's only a month away. can't wait to win the soapbox tourney again.
    course, steve will find some way to short change my coming
    championship. It should be another good tournament, as there are at
    least 7-8 teams with legitimate shots at going all the way.
302.698ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Feb 07 1997 18:1411
    Well, Battis, you will have a good chance at winning this year, as I
    have not watched too many NCAA games lately.  I know who the best teams
    are supposed to be, but not much more.  There are MANY wildcards this
    year, which should make picking the first couple of brackets
    interesting.
    
    Even the best teams have their weaknesses this year.  
    
    Anyone have the current top 25 list they are willing to post?  Been
    ages since I've seen one (and the local sportscaster geeks only show
    the top 10 + local teams, which annoys me greatly).
302.699ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Feb 07 1997 19:052
    
    Steve, I'll update the top 25 next week.
302.700LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Feb 07 1997 19:101
    i can't wait until next week.
302.701ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Feb 07 1997 19:182
    
    <------- quiet you, or i'll feed you to the sharks.
302.702BUSY::SLABDogbert's New Ruling Class: 150KFri Feb 07 1997 19:184
    
    	I was almost very insulted by that, Bonnie, but I remembered that
    	I didn't tell you I would be on vacation then.
    
302.703LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Feb 07 1997 19:201
    i can't wait until next week.
302.704ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Feb 07 1997 19:223
    
    shawn, bonnie has a weak spot for kids and dogs, she's very fond of
    kids and dogs.
302.705SMURF::WALTERSFri Feb 07 1997 19:241
    fried or boiled? 
302.706BUSY::SLABDogbert's New Ruling Class: 150KFri Feb 07 1997 19:2415
    
    	RE: .703
    
    	NOW I'm insulted by that.
    
    
    	P.S.  Every time Bonnie insults me, I'll add a few more char-
    	      acters to a certain URL.
    
    	      http://
    
    
    
    	8^)
    
302.707LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Feb 07 1997 19:273
    shawn, you really are a bad, bad boy.
    
    
302.708ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Feb 10 1997 11:5128
    
    USA Today-CNN Top 25 Poll
    
    1. Kansas
    2. Wake Forest
    3. Minnesota
    4. Kentucky
    5. Utah
    6. Clemson
    7. Duke
    8. Cincinnati
    9. Iowa State
    10.Maryland
    11.Arizona
    12.New Mexico
    13.South Carolina
    14.Michigan
    15.Louisville
    16.Colrado
    17.North Carolina
    18.Villanova
    19.Xavier, Oh
    20.Texas Tech
    21.Illinois
    22.Stanford
    23.Tulane
    24.Tulsa
    25.UCLA
302.709ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Feb 10 1997 11:561
    Thank ye kindly for posting that, Battis.
302.710ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Feb 18 1997 15:222
    
    23 days to go.
302.711ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Feb 18 1997 18:532
    Yippie!  Too bad I am relatively clueless this year (regarding college
    hoops...  8^) ).  Too many teams that I haven't seen play...
302.712ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownThu Feb 20 1997 15:372
    
    can't wait for the tournament to start. lots of good games coming up.
302.713ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Feb 21 1997 11:353
    I'll be in "guess" mode this year, which will make things more
    interesting.  Still can't wait to fill out my pool sheets.  I think
    I'll go with the odds on one of them, just to see what happens.  8^)
302.714ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Feb 21 1997 12:194
    
    I've already planned a vacation day for March 14th. this way I can
    watch games that are on late Thursday, then again on Friday. I'm
    so pathetic.
302.715ACISS1::BATTISCarnations,not just for Easter anymoreFri Feb 28 1997 13:464
    
    Duke wins the regular season ACC championship with their victory
    over maryland. Minnesota takes the Big 10 championship, first one
    since 1981-1982.
302.716ACISS1::BATTISCarnations,not just for Easter anymoreMon Mar 03 1997 18:062
    
    the big dance starts next Thursday. Can't wait.
302.717BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Mar 03 1997 18:401
that means they will be playing Y.M.C.A. if it is a big dance!
302.718POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Mar 03 1997 18:471
    filthy.
302.719ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 03 1997 18:504
    TV's in this office will be glued to the proper channel, of course.  I
    do believe I have a project scheduled for next week, starting at noon
    or thereabouts... both Thurs. and Fri.   Amazing how these things time
    themselves out, isn't it?  8^)
302.720BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Mar 03 1997 19:031
Steve, you gonna toss back a few brews while working on your errrr.... project?
302.721ACISS1::BATTISCarnations,not just for Easter anymoreMon Mar 03 1997 19:043
    
    Next Monday or Tuesday it will be time to fill out the sheets.
    with luck, i will be in it till the end.
302.722BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Mar 03 1997 19:101
aren't you always?
302.723ACISS1::BATTISCarnations,not just for Easter anymoreMon Mar 03 1997 19:152
    
    I want to defend my championship with honor and dignity.
302.724ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Mar 04 1997 11:424
    .720
    
    Not on Digital's property, I'm not.  Coincidental timing is one thing,
    outright stomping on Digitla policy is quite another.  8^) 
302.725more in the "straight talk" series...GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersFri Mar 07 1997 15:035
  Watch for the Digital ads again during the NCAA tourney.  Like pro
 football, NCAA basketball is one of Digital's chosen audiences.

  bb
302.726ACISS1::BATTISCarnations,not just for Easter anymoreFri Mar 07 1997 19:432
    
    <--- Digital chooses wisely. Most watched sporting event all year long.
302.727SMART2::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveMon Mar 10 1997 12:585
    
    	Yes, but is it watched by people who might actually buy
    	a Digital product ???
    
    
302.728ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 10 1997 13:133
    Madness begins in just a few short days!  I wonder if any of today's
    papers have brackets... they should.  Five tri-state teams are in
    tourney - Kentucky, Louisville, Miami-OH, Xavier, Cincinnati.
302.729ACISS1::BATTISCarnations,not just for Easter anymoreMon Mar 10 1997 13:272
    
    <------ all the paers I've seen today have them.
302.730BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Mar 10 1997 13:301
what is a paers?
302.731BUSY::SLABA Parting Shot in the DarkMon Mar 10 1997 13:455
    
    	RE: .727
    
    	Yeah, right.  Most of those people can't even spell DEC.
    
302.732someone else can keep score!TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeTue Mar 11 1997 04:59136
 1. Kentucky 
---------------------
16. Montana          |---------
---------------------          |
 8. Iowa                       |---------
---------------------          |         |
 9. Virginia         |---------          |
---------------------                    |
 5. Boston College                       |---------
---------------------                    |         |
12. Valparaiso       |---------          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |---------          |
---------------------          |                   |
13. Pacific          |---------                    |
---------------------                              |
 6. Stanford                   			   |---------
---------------------                              |         |
11. Oklahoma         |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |---------          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |---------	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10. Georgetown       |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2. Utah                       |---------                    |
---------------------          |                             |
15. Navy             |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |---------
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16. SW Texas         |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8. Mississippi                |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |---------          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11. Illinois State   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |---------                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |---------                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |--------
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------                                                  |
16. Fairfield        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8. Indiana                    |---------                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5. California                           |---------                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6. Louisville                                     |---------          |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11. Mass.            |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10. Texas            |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |---------
 1. Kansas                                                   |
---------------------                                        |
16. Jackson State    |---------                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8. Purdue                     |---------                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5. Maryland                             |---------          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |---------          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6. Illinois                                       |---------
---------------------                              |
11. So. Calif        |---------                    |
---------------------          |                   |
 3. Georgia                    |---------          |
---------------------          |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7. Marquette                            |---------
---------------------                    |
10. Providence	     |---------          |
---------------------          |         |
 2. Duke                       |---------
---------------------          |
15. Murray State     |---------
---------------------
    
302.733wheww....TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeTue Mar 11 1997 05:32136
 1. Kentucky 
---------------------
16. Montana          |Kentucky-
---------------------          |
 8. Iowa                       |Kentucky-
---------------------          |         |
 9. Virginia         |Iowa-----          |
---------------------                    |
 5. Boston College                       |Kentucky-
---------------------                    |         |
12. Valparaiso       |Bos College        |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |St.Joseph's        |
---------------------          |                   |
13. Pacific          |St.Joseph's                  |
---------------------                              |
 6. Stanford                   			   |Kentucky-
---------------------                              |         |
11. Oklahoma         |Oklahoma                     |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |W.Forest-          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|W.Forest-          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |W.Forest	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10. Georgetown       |NC Charlotte       |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2. Utah                       |Utah-----                    |
---------------------          |                             |
15. Navy             |Utah-----                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |Kentucky-
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16. SW Texas         |Minnesota                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8. Mississippi                |Minnesota                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |Temple             |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |Clemson            |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |Tulsa----          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |Clemson-           |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |Clemson--                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |Clemson--          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11. Illinois State   |Iowa St--                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |Cincinatti         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |Cincinatti         |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |UCLA-----                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |Xavier---          |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |UCLA-----                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |UCLA-----                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                      KENTUCKY
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------                                                  |
16. Fairfield        |N Carolina                                       |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8. Indiana                    |N Carolina                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |Colorado-          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5. California                           |N Carolina                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |California         |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |L.I. Univ          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |L.I. Univ                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6. Louisville                                     |N Carolina         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11. Mass.            |Louisville                   |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |N Mexico-          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |N Mexico-          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |N Mexico-          |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10. Texas            |Texas----          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |S Carolina                   |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |S Carolina                             |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |Duke-----
 1. Kansas                                                   |
---------------------                                        |
16. Jackson State    |Kansas---                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8. Purdue                     |Kansas---                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |Purdue---          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5. Maryland                             |Kansas---          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |Col Charl.         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |Col Charl          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |Arizona---                   |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6. Illinois                                       |Duke-----
---------------------                              |
11. So. Calif        |Illinois--                   |
---------------------          |                   |
 3. Georgia                    |Georgia--          |
---------------------          |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |Georgia--          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7. Marquette                            |Duke-----
---------------------                    |
10. Providence	     |Providence         |
---------------------          |         |
 2. Duke                       |Duke-----
---------------------          |
15. Murray State     |Duke-----            
---------------------
    
302.734ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 11:322
    
    I will submit mine when I figure out how to extract it.
302.735POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 11 1997 11:366
    
    Oh, Chris, thank you SO MUCH.  I was dreading typing that in this
    morning.
    
    I'll post mine as soon as I fill it in!
    
302.736ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 12:02144
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 1. Kentucky 
--------------------- Kent
16. Montana          |---------
---------------------          |Kent
 8. Iowa                       |---------
---------------------  Iowa        |         |
 9. Virginia         |---------          |
---------------------                    |Kent
 5. Boston College                       |---------
---------------------  B.C.                 |         |
12. Valparaiso       |---------          |         |
---------------------          | B.C.        |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |---------          |
---------------------  Pacific        |                   |
13. Pacific          |---------                    |
---------------------                              |Kent
 6. Stanford                   			   |---------
---------------------  Stanford                            |         |
11. Oklahoma         |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |W.Forest                   |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |---------          |         |
---------------------  W.Forest        |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |W.Forest         |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |---------	     |
---------------------  G.Town                  |                   |
10. Georgetown       |---------          |                   |
---------------------          | Utah        |                   |
 2. Utah                       |---------                    |
---------------------  Utah        |                             |
15. Navy             |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |Kent
                                                             |---------
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------  Minn                                      |         |
16. SW Texas         |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Minn                             |         |
 8. Mississippi                |---------                    |         |
---------------------  Miss        |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |Clemson                   |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  Tulsa                  |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |Clemson         |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  Clemson        |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              | Clemson        |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |---------          |
---------------------  Iowa St.                            |                   |
11. Illinois State   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Cinn                   |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Cinn.        |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |UCLA         |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |---------                    |
---------------------  Xavier                  |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA         |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA         |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |Kansas

                                                                       |--------
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------  N.Car.                                                |
16. Fairfield        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |N.Car                                       |
 8. Indiana                    |---------                              |
---------------------  Ind.        |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |N.Car                             |
 5. California                           |---------                    |
---------------------  Princ.                  |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |Vill         |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Vill        |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | N.Car                  |
 6. Louisville                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Lville                             |         |         |
11. Mass.            |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Lville                   |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- N.Mex         |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |S.Car         |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |---------          |         |
--------------------- Texas                   |                   |         |
10. Texas            |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |S.Car         |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |---------                    |         |
--------------------- S.Car         |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |Kansas         |
                                                             |---------
 1. Kansas                                                   |
--------------------- Kansas                                       |
16. Jackson State    |---------                              |
---------------------          | Kansas                            |
 8. Purdue                     |---------                    |
--------------------- R.Isle         |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | Kansas                  |
 5. Maryland                             |---------          |
--------------------- Col.Char                   |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Ariz.         |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Ariz         |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              | Kansas        |
 6. Illinois                                       |---------
---------------------  Ill.                            |
11. So. Calif        |---------                    |
---------------------          |Georgia                   |
 3. Georgia                    |---------          |
--------------------- Georgia         |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |---------          |         |
---------------------                    | Duke        |
 7. Marquette                            |---------
--------------------- Marq                   |
10. Providence	     |---------          |
---------------------          |Duke         |
 2. Duke                       |---------
---------------------  Duke        |
15. Murray State     |---------
---------------------
    
302.737POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 11 1997 12:17136
 1. Kentucky 
---------------------
16. Montana          |----KY---
---------------------          |
 8. Iowa                       |----KY---
---------------------          |         |
 9. Virginia         |----VA---          |
---------------------                    |
 5. Boston College                       |----KY---
---------------------                    |         |
12. Valparaiso       |----BC---          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |-St.Joe--          |
---------------------          |                   |
13. Pacific          |-St.Joe--                    |
---------------------                              |
 6. Stanford                   			   |----KY---
---------------------                              |         |
11. Oklahoma         |-Stanfor-                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |-Wake F--          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|--Wake-F-          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |--Utah---	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10. Georgetown       |-UNC-Cha-          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2. Utah                       |-Utah----                    |
---------------------          |                             |
15. Navy             |--Utah---                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |----KY---
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16. SW Texas         |--Minn---                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8. Mississippi                |--Minn---                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |-Temple--          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |--Minn---          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |--Tulsa--          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |-Clemson-          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |-Clemson-                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |--Minn---          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11. Illinois State   |-IlliSt--                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |-Cincy---          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |---Cincy-          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |--UCLA---                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |-Vandy--           |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |-UCLA---                               |
---------------------          |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---UCLA--                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |---KS---
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------                                                  |
16. Fairfield        |---NC----                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8. Indiana                    |----NC---                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |---Ind---          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5. California                           |----NC---                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |-Princet-          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |-Princet-          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |-Villano-                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6. Louisville                                     |----NC---          |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11. Mass.            |-Louisvi-                    |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |---NM----          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |---NM----          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |----SC---          |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10. Texas            |----TX---          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |----SC---                    |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |----SC---                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |----KS---
 1. Kansas                                                   |
---------------------                                        |
16. Jackson State    |----KS---                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8. Purdue                     |----KS---                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |-Purdue--          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5. Maryland                             |----KS---          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |-ColChar-          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |-ColChar-          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |-Arizona-                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6. Illinois                                       |----KS---
---------------------                              |
11. So. Calif        |-Illinoi-                    |
---------------------          |                   |
 3. Georgia                    |---GA----          |
---------------------          |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |---GA----          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7. Marquette                            |--Duke---
---------------------                    |
10. Providence	     |-Provide-          |
---------------------          |         |
 2. Duke                       |---Duke--
---------------------          |
15. Murray State     |--Duke---
---------------------
    
302.738ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 12:282
    
    ok, Leech and Mark and others, get your picks in. Glenn, you too.
302.739ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Mar 11 1997 12:4514
    Don't worry, mine will be in... just before the big dance starts.  8^)
    
    Games don't start until Thursday, noon.  
    
    
    If you want me to keep score, I can.  I've got my Excel spreadsheet
    completed (the guy who kept up with the pool last year is no longer
    with DEC, so I thought I would create one... just in case).  I can mail
    the sheet to everyone who has Exchange, if anyone has the need (or I
    can send the final tabulations to participants of the box pool via
    Exchange in this manner).
    
    
    Excel can be quite useful.  8^)
302.740POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 11 1997 12:5022
    
    Here are the rules again for this year:
    
    
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Note 302.343                      March Madness                       343 of 739
POWDML::HANGGELI "Little Chamber of Full Body Frisk" 12 lines  14-MAR-1996 12:33
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As The Judge wrote last year:
    
>This is the official Soapbox NCAA pool topic now.  This
>pool will be based on the points system. The points are


>	1 - 2 - 4 - 8 - 12 - 16

>by round respectively.  This gives all who don't pick
>the national champs a shot to still win.  Good Luck,
>standings will be posted.
    
302.741ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 12:585
    I expect a lot of boxers to participate this year. DO NOT disappoint
    me. There is no charge to enter, just fill the sheet out. All have
    an equal opportunity to win the pool. I think we ought to have a prize
    for 1st place. Maybe, a Soapbox coffee mug or a cheeseburger from the
    vending machine. Ok, get those picks in, I need my burger.
302.742BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Mar 11 1997 13:40136

 1. Kentucky 
---------------------  Kentucky
16. Montana          |---------
---------------------          |Kentucky
 8. Iowa                       |---------
---------------------   Iowa   |         |
 9. Virginia         |---------          |
---------------------                    |Kentucky
 5. Boston College                       |---------
---------------------   BC               |         |
12. Valparaiso       |---------          |         |
---------------------          |   BC    |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |---------          |
--------------------- St Joes  |                   |
13. Pacific          |---------                    |
---------------------                              |Kentucky
 6. Stanford                   			   |---------
--------------------- Stanford                     |         |
11. Oklahoma         |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |Wake Forest        |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |---------          |         |
--------------------- Wake For |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |Wakefores|         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |---------	     |
--------------------- Georgetown         |                   |
10. Georgetown       |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |Georget  |                   |
 2. Utah                       |---------                    |
---------------------  Utah    |                             |
15. Navy             |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |Kentucky
                                                             |---------
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
--------------------- Minn                                   |         |
16. SW Texas         |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | Temple                      |         |
 8. Mississippi                |---------                    |         |
---------------------  Temple  |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |Temple             |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |---------          |         |
---------------------   BU               |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |   BU    |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Clemson  |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              | Temple  |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |---------          |
---------------------   Iowa                       |                   |
11. Illinois State   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          | Iowa              |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Cinn    |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    | Iowa    |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |---------                    |
---------------------  Xavier            |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          | Xavier  |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |---------                              |
---------------------  UCLA    |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |Kentucky
                                                                       |--------
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------   NC                                             |
16. Fairfield        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |   NC                                  |
 8. Indiana                    |---------                              |
---------------------  Indiana |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |   NC                        |
 5. California                           |---------                    |
--------------------- Princeton          |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |Villanova|         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Villanova|                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | U Mass            |
 6. Louisville                                     |---------          |
---------------------  U Mass                      |         |         |
11. Mass.            |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          | U. Mass           |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |---------          |         |         |
---------------------   NM     |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    | U Mass  |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |---------          |         |
--------------------- Wisconsin          |                   |         |
10. Texas            |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |  SC     |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |---------                    |         |
---------------------    SC    |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |Kansas   |
                                                             |---------
 1. Kansas                                                   |
---------------------  Kansas                                |
16. Jackson State    |---------                              |
---------------------          | Kansas                      |
 8. Purdue                     |---------                    |
---------------------  Purdue  |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | Kansas            |
 5. Maryland                             |---------          |
--------------------- Maryland           |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          | Arizona |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |---------          |         |
---------------------  Arizona |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |Kansas   |
 6. Illinois                                       |---------
---------------------  Illinois                    |
11. So. Calif        |---------                    |
---------------------          |Illinois           |
 3. Georgia                    |---------          |
--------------------- Georgia  |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |Prov     |
 7. Marquette                            |---------
--------------------- Providence         |
10. Providence	     |---------          |
---------------------          |Prov     |
 2. Duke                       |---------
--------------------- Duke     |
15. Murray State     |---------
---------------------
302.743TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeTue Mar 11 1997 13:465
    See?  Exchange is a wonderful thing.  I think Steve should be the
    official scorekeeper since he has already gone to the trouble of
    creating the Excel spreadsheet.
    
    We'll keep him honest!  8^)
302.744POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Mar 11 1997 13:51137
 1. Kentucky 
--------------------- Kentucky
16. Montana          |---------
---------------------          |Kentucky
 8. Iowa                       |---------
---------------------  Virginia|         |
 9. Virginia         |---------          |
---------------------                    |Kentucky
 5. Boston College                       |---------
---------------------  B.C.              |         |
12. Valparaiso       |---------          |         |
---------------------          | B.C.    |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |---------          |
---------------------  St. Joe |                   |
13. Pacific          |---------                    |
---------------------                              |Utah
 6. Stanford                   			   |---------
---------------------  Oklahoma                    |         |
11. Oklahoma         |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |W.Forest           |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |---------          |         |
---------------------  W.Forest|         |         |         |         
14. St. Mary's, Calif|---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |Utah     |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |---------	     |
---------------------  G.Town            |                   |
10. Georgetown       |---------          |                   |
---------------------          | Utah    |                   |
 2. Utah                       |---------                    |
---------------------  Utah    |                             |
15. Navy             |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |Utah
                                                             |---------
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------  Minn                                  |         |
16. SW Texas         |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Minn                         |         |
 8. Mississippi                |---------                    |         |
---------------------  Temple  |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |Minn               |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  Tulsa             |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |Clemson  |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  Clemson |       		   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              | Minn    |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |---------          |
---------------------  Illinois                    |                   |
11. Illinois State   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Cinn               |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Cinn.   |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |UCLA     |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |---------                    |
---------------------  Xavier            |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA     |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |Kansas
                                                                       |
                                                                       |--------
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------  N.Car.                                          |
16. Fairfield        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |N.Car                                  |
 8. Indiana                    |---------                              |
---------------------  Ind.    |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |N.Car                        |
 5. California                           |---------                    |
---------------------  California        |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |Calif.   |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Vill    |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | N.Car             |
 6. Louisville                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Lville                       |         |         |
11. Mass.            |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Lville             |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- N.Mex    |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |S.Car    |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |---------          |         |
--------------------- Texas              |                   |         |
10. Texas            |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |S.Car    |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |---------                    |         |
--------------------- S.Car    |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |Kansas   |
                                                             |---------
 1. Kansas                                                   |
--------------------- Kansas                                 |
16. Jackson State    |---------                              |
---------------------          | Kansas                      |
 8. Purdue                     |---------                    |
--------------------- R.Isle   |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | Kansas            |
 5. Maryland                             |---------          |
--------------------- Col.Char           |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Ariz.    |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |---------          |         |
--------------------- Ariz     |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              | Kansas  |
 6. Illinois                                       |---------
---------------------  Ill.                        |
11. So. Calif        |---------                    |
---------------------          |Georgia            |
 3. Georgia                    |---------          |
--------------------- Georgia  |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |---------          |         |
---------------------                    | Duke    |
 7. Marquette                            |---------
--------------------- Providence         |
10. Providence	     |---------          |
---------------------          |Duke     |
 2. Duke                       |---------
---------------------  Duke    |
15. Murray State     |---------
---------------------
    
302.745Oops... 32 points IS normal, not 64... DUH!ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Mar 11 1997 13:5512
    .740
    
    
    Hey!  That's no fair... I'll have to change several formulas in my
    spreadsheet!
    
    And no points for picking the winner?  How about 32 points (rather than
    the usual 64 points)?  Or better yet, why not score the box pool like
    most every other pool in America is scored? (then I wouldn't have to
    alter my spreadsheet  8^) )
    
    Let's take a vote!  
302.746POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 11 1997 13:574
    
    If you're the scorekeeper, do whatever you want.  I just reposted the
    rules that were used for the past two years.
    
302.747Where's Cornell?MROA::YANNEKISTue Mar 11 1997 14:06137
 1. Kentucky 
---------------------
16. Montana          |-Kentucky-
---------------------          |
 8. Iowa                       |-Kentucky-
---------------------          |         |
 9. Virginia         |-Virginia-         |
---------------------                    |
 5. Boston College                       |-Kentucky-
---------------------                    |         |
12. Valparaiso       |Bos College        |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |----BC----         |
---------------------          |                   |
13. Pacific          |St.Joseph's                  |
---------------------                              |
 6. Stanford                   			   |-Kentucky-
---------------------                              |         |
11. Oklahoma         |-Stanford-                   |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |-Stanford-         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|-W.Forest-         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |-Stanford-	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10. Georgetown       |Georgetown         |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2. Utah                       |---Utah---                   |
---------------------          |                             |
15. Navy             |---Utah---                             |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |-Kentucky-
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16. SW Texas         |Minnesota-                             |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8. Mississippi                |Minnesota-                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |Mississippi        |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |Minnesota-         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |--Tulsa---         |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |-Clemson--         |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |-Clemson--                   |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |Minnesota-         |
---------------------                              |                   |
11. Illinois State   |-Iowa St--                   |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |Cincinnati         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |Cincinnati         |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |---UCLA---                   |
---------------------                    |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |--Vandi---         |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |---UCLA---                             |
---------------------          |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---UCLA---                                       |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                  NORTH CAROLINA
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------                                                  |
16. Fairfield        |N Carolina                                       |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8. Indiana                    |N Carolina                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |-Colorado-         |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5. California                           |N Carolina                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |California         |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |California         |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |Villanova                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6. Louisville                                     |N Carolina         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11. Mass.            |Louisville                   |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |-N Mexico-         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |-N Mexico-         |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |S Carolina         |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10. Texas            |Wisconsin-         |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |S Carolina                   |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |S Carolina                             |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |N Carolina
 1. Kansas                                                   |
---------------------                                        |
16. Jackson State    |--Kansas--                             |
---------------------          |                             |
 8. Purdue                     |--Kansas--                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |--Rhodie--         |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5. Maryland                             |--Kansas--         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |-Maryland-         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |-Maryland-         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |--Arizona-                   |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6. Illinois                                       |--Kansas--
---------------------                              |
11. So. Calif        |-Illinois-                   |
---------------------          |                   |
 3. Georgia                    |-Georgia--         |
---------------------          |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |-Georgia--         |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7. Marquette                            |---Duke---
---------------------                    |
10. Providence	     |- Marq.---         |
---------------------          |         |
 2. Duke                       |---Duke---
---------------------          |
15. Murray State     |---Duke---            
---------------------
    
    
302.748ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 14:084
    
    steve forgrt the 32 point rule. The judges points are used for most
    pools. Besides, you should get more points for picking the champion,
    that's the whole idea.
302.749is this a contest or something?HBAHBA::HAASangel trumpets and devil trombonesTue Mar 11 1997 14:34136
 1. Kentucky 
---------------------  KY
16. Montana          |---------
---------------------          | KY
 8. Iowa                       |---------
---------------------  Iowa    |         |
 9. Virginia         |---------          |
---------------------                    | KY
 5. Boston College                       |---------
---------------------  BC                |         |
12. Valparaiso       |---------          |         |
---------------------          | BC      |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |---------          |
---------------------  St.Joe's|                   |
13. Pacific          |---------                    |
---------------------                              | KY
 6. Stanford                   			   |---------
---------------------  OK                          |         |
11. Oklahoma         |---------                    |         |
---------------------          | Wake              |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |---------          |         |
---------------------  Wake    |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | Wake    |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |---------	     |
---------------------  GTown             |                   |
10. Georgetown       |---------          |                   |
---------------------          | Gtown   |                   |
 2. Utah                       |---------                    |
---------------------  Utah    |                             |
15. Navy             |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             | UCLA
                                                             |---------
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------  Minn                                  |         |
16. SW Texas         |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | Minn                        |         |
 8. Mississippi                |---------                    |         |
---------------------  Temple  |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    | Minn              |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |---------          |         |
---------------------  Tulsa             |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | Clem    |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  Clem    |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              | UCLA    |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |---------          |
---------------------  IowaSt                      |                   |
11. Illinois State   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          | Cincy             |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Cincy   |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    | UCLA    |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |---------                    |
---------------------  Vandy             |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          | UCLA    |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |---------                              |
---------------------  UCLA    |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       | NC
                                                                       |-------
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------  NC                                              |
16. Fairfield        |---------                                        |
---------------------          | NC                                    |
 8. Indiana                    |---------                              |
---------------------  Colo    |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    | NC                          |
 5. California                           |---------                    |
---------------------  Cal               |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | Nova    |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Nova    |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              | NC                |
 6. Louisville                                     |---------          |
---------------------  Lville                      |         |         |
11. Mass.            |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          | Lville            |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  NewMex  |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    | Lville  |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |---------          |         |
---------------------  Texas             |                   |         |
10. Texas            |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          | SoCar   |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |---------                    |         |
---------------------  SoCar   |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             | NC      |
                                                             |---------
 1. Kansas                                                   |
---------------------  Kansas                                |
16. Jackson State    |---------                              |
---------------------          | Kansas                      |
 8. Purdue                     |---------                    |
---------------------  RI      |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | Kansas            |
 5. Maryland                             |---------          |
---------------------  Md                |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          | Md      |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |---------          |         |
---------------------  Ariz    |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              | Kansas  |
 6. Illinois                                       |---------
---------------------  Ill                         |
11. So. Calif        |---------                    |
---------------------          | Ill               |
 3. Georgia                    |---------          |
---------------------  Ga      |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |---------          |         |
---------------------                    | Ill     |
 7. Marquette                            |---------
---------------------  Prov              |
10. Providence	     |---------          |
---------------------          | Duke    |
 2. Duke                       |---------
---------------------  Duke    |
15. Murray State     |---------
---------------------
    
302.750ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 15:236
    
    .749
    
    yes. This is for the top bragging rights within Soapbox for the NCAA.
    All losers are required to bow down and kiss the signet ring of the
    winner. Or, you could just send me a cheeseburger through the mail.
302.751ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Mar 11 1997 16:1315
    All entries must be posted prior to noon on Thursday.  
    
    Da knew roolz....
    
    1.  Point system will follow the standard...
    
    round 1 - 1 pt. per correct pick
    round 2 - 2 pts.
    round 3 - 4 pts.
    round 4 - 8 pts.
    round 5 - 16 pts.
    final pick - 32 pts.
    
    
    Good luck!  (not really... I'm hexing you all as I type  8^) )
302.752ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 16:293
    
    what steve meant to say was this: may your favorite teams find nothing
    but air.
302.753ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Mar 11 1997 16:461
    ... or a very unkind rim.  8^)
302.754ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 16:513
    
    still waiting for the Doctah's picks and -mr. bill's. Oph, how about
    you or April tossing in your picks?
302.755LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againTue Mar 11 1997 16:531
    Go Camby!
302.756ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Mar 11 1997 17:1810
    You are all officially entered into the Soapbox NCAA March Madness
    pool... well, at least those of you who have bothered to fill out a 
    sheet.
    
    As for the rest of you... hop to it! (I've got a sheet filled out, but
    I think I'll make some changes before posting it)
    
    Results will be posted after each round.  If you want a copy of the
    spreadsheet, send me mail on Exchange.  If you don't have Exchange,
    well, you're out of luck.  8^)  
302.757ABACUS::LORTIETue Mar 11 1997 17:43136
 1. Kentucky 
--------------------- Kentucky
16. Montana          |---------
---------------------          |Kentucky
 8. Iowa                       |---------
--------------------- Virginia |         |
 9. Virginia         |---------          |
---------------------                    |Kentucky
 5. Boston College                       |---------
--------------------- BC                 |         |
12. Valparaiso       |---------          |         |
---------------------          |BC       |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |---------          |
--------------------- St Joe's |                   |
13. Pacific          |---------                    |
---------------------                              |Wake Forest
 6. Stanford                   			   |---------
--------------------- Oklahoma                     |         |
11. Oklahoma         |---------                    |         |
---------------------          |WF                 |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |---------          |         |
--------------------- WF       |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    |WF       |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |---------	     |
--------------------- G'town             |                   |
10. Georgetown       |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |Utah     |                   |
 2. Utah                       |---------                    |
--------------------- Utah     |                             |
15. Navy             |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |Wake Forest
                                                             |---------
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
--------------------- Minn                                   |         |
16. SW Texas         |---------                              |         |
---------------------          |Miss                         |         |
 8. Mississippi                |---------                    |         |
--------------------- Miss     |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |Miss               |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |---------          |         |
--------------------- BU                 |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |Clemson  |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- Clemson  |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |UCLA     |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Illinois St                  |                   |
11. Illinois State   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |Cinn               |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Cinn     |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |UCLA     |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |---------                    |
--------------------- Xavier             |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          |UCLA     |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |---------                              |
--------------------- UCLA     |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |Kansas
                                                                       |--------
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
--------------------- NC                                               |
16. Fairfield        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |NC                                     |
 8. Indiana                    |---------                              |
--------------------- Indiana  |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |NC                           |
 5. California                           |---------                    |
--------------------- Princeton          |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          |Nova     |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |---------          |                   |
--------------------- Nova     |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |North Carolina     |
 6. Louisville                                     |---------          |
--------------------- Louisville                   |         |         |
11. Mass.            |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |Louisville         |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |---------          |         |         |
--------------------- New Mex  |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |SC       |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |---------          |         |
--------------------- Texas              |                   |         |
10. Texas            |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |SC       |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |---------                    |         |
--------------------- SC       |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |Kansas   |
                                                             |---------
 1. Kansas                                                   |
--------------------- Kansas                                 |
16. Jackson State    |---------                              |
---------------------          |Kansas                       |
 8. Purdue                     |---------                    |
--------------------- RI       |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    |Kansas             |
 5. Maryland                             |---------          |
--------------------- Maryland           |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          |Maryland |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |---------          |         |
--------------------- S Ala    |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |Kansas   |
 6. Illinois                                       |---------
--------------------- USC                          |
11. So. Calif        |---------                    |
---------------------          |Georgia            |
 3. Georgia                    |---------          |
--------------------- Georgia  |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |Duke     |
 7. Marquette                            |---------
--------------------- Providence         |
10. Providence	     |---------          |
---------------------          |Duke     |
 2. Duke                       |---------
--------------------- Duke     |
15. Murray State     |---------
---------------------
    
302.758ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 18:072
    
    <---- ah, a RON entry. good luck, you'll need it.
302.759TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeTue Mar 11 1997 20:256
    >>  Go Camby!
    
    Are you talking about Marcus Camby?  I wouldn't say he has got off to a
    very auspicious start with the Raptors.  The guy is hurt every other
    game and I think his team-mates are starting to think of him as some
    kind of wuss.  Damon plays *through* the pain!
302.760LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againTue Mar 11 1997 20:292
    he was my NCAA hero last year.  what a
    difference a year makes. :-(
302.761NHASAD::SHERKI belong! I got circles overme i'sTue Mar 11 1997 21:109
    
    Camby had a tough time in college with physical centers.  Didn't bode
    well for him in the NBA.  
    
    UMass got a nice draw.  They will have to start with an upset but
    given their record I think they got a big break.  I would not have
    picked them against Michigan which didn't make the cut.
    
    ken
302.762ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 12 1997 11:113
    
    UMass will get whupped by Louisville. Denny Crum always has his teams
    ready for the tourny. If UMass wins, it will be a medium upset.
302.763ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyWed Mar 12 1997 11:313
    We have a total of 8 entries thus far... I think a few boxers are
    holding out on us! (or perhaps, are keeping thier picks top secret
    until the last minute... like me  8^) )  
302.764Ralph Samson syndrome...GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersWed Mar 12 1997 11:484
  To play effectively in the NBA, Camby must eat cheeseburgers.

  bb
302.765ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 12 1997 12:092
    
    <---- I'll coach him on that.
302.766ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 12 1997 12:126
    
    ok, all you soapbox prognosticator wannabe's. Here is your chance to 
    dazzle and impress us all with your basketball acumen. Don't be shy,
    step up to the table and get those picks in!!! Women, you too can enter
    those picks, Debra and Chris already have chosen theirs. Come on it
    will be fun!!
302.767PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 12 1997 12:259
>    <<< Note 302.766 by ACISS1::BATTIS "Kansas Jayhawks-Toto's favorite" >>>

> Women, you too can enter
> those picks, 

	How Cro-magnanimous of you.



302.768SMURF::WALTERSWed Mar 12 1997 12:281
    Me help you club her, Zog.
302.769ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyWed Mar 12 1997 12:3033
    ... and for those (like myself) who have not really been following
    basketball this year - enter your picks anyway.  You'd be surprised at
    how well you may do.  To help you out, I've printed out the top 10 list
    from the web, and have reproduced it below:
    
    1. Montana
    2. Charlston SC
    3. Murray St.
    4. Fairfield
    5. UMass
    6. Butler
    7. Tenn. Chatt.
    8. Illinois
    9. Old Dominion
    10. Long Island
    
    
    
    Just kidding...  here's the real list (from the AP poll). 8^)
    
    
    1. Kansas    32-1
    2. Utah      26-3
    3. Minn.     27-3
    4. NC        24-6
    5. Kentucky  30-4
    6. SC	 24-7
    7. UCLA	 21-7
    8. Duke	 23-8
    9. Wake For. 23-6
    10. Cincy	 25-7
    
    
302.770SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Mar 12 1997 12:585
    
    	I'm sorry, but I'll need to see the team records before
    	I can make my picks.
    
    
302.771ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 12 1997 13:012
    
    Karen, here is a hint. Don't pick any team from Mass. You'll do fine.
302.772BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Mar 12 1997 13:433

	Yeah.... pick just the teams from Chigago.
302.773ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyWed Mar 12 1997 13:541
    Where's Chigago?
302.774TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeWed Mar 12 1997 14:041
    I just want to be "one of the guys"
302.775BUSY::SLABBuzzword BingoWed Mar 12 1997 14:067
    
    	Speaking of that, sort of, one of those HBO "sex shows" ["Sex
    	Bytes", maybe?] had a story on a pair of males who became females
    	but decided to keep their penises.
    
    	Imagine the possibilities.  I'd rather not.
    
302.776does your HMO do those ?GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersWed Mar 12 1997 14:064
  those operations are expensive

  bb
302.777BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapWed Mar 12 1997 14:0963
    They're called "transgenderists." 
    
    Surgery:  Think $10K for a lopitoffame.  Digital's insurance, with
    appropriate arm twisting, will cover it.  I think I even know one
    person who got a Digitally provided HMO to pay.
    
    All of this reminds me of Uncle Bonsai's song "Penis Envy."
    
    Penis Envy
    
    by Uncle Bonsai 
    
    If I had a penis I'd wear it outside
    In cafes and carlots with pomp and with pride
    If I had a penis I'd pamper it proper
    I'd stay in the tub and use me as a stopper
    If I had a penis I'd take it to parties
    Stretch it and stroke it and shove it at smarties
    I'd take it to pet shows and teach it to stay
    I'd stuff it in turkeys on thanksgiving day 
    
    I'd rival my buddies in sportscars and stickshifts
    I'd shower my spire with girlies and gifts
    I'd peek around corners
    I'd aim at my toilet
    I'd poke it at foreigners
    And soap it and oil it
    If I had a penis I'd run to my mother
    Comb out the hair and compare it to brother
    I'd lance her, I'd knight her, my hands would endulge
    Pants would seem tighter and buckle and bulge 
    
    (chorus)
    A penis to plunder, a penis to push
    Cause one in the hand is worth one in the bush
    A penis to love me, a penis to share...
    To pick up and play with when nobody's there 
    
    I'd sit like a guy, I'd straddle the chair
    I'd play with my fly, albeit with care
    I'd dip it in chocolate, I'd stick it in sockets
    Go to the movies with hands deep in pockets
    I'd stick it in vacuums on vacant verandas
    Gas-guzzling bottles and poodles and pandas
    And puddles and drain pipes and doggies and ditches,
    Poolhalls and potholes and bottles and bitches... 
    
    Zucchinies and zebras, tomatoes, tomatoes,
    And pineapple pumpkins, and gulches and grottos,
    And melons and marshmallows... 
    
    Gloves and gorillas
    Slurpies and slippers
    Chinooks and chinchillas... 
    
    (chorus) 
    
    If I had a penis, I'd climb every mountain
    I'd force it on females
    I'd pee like a fountain... 
    
    If I had a penis I'd still be a girl,
    But I'd make much more money and conquer the world. 
302.778LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againWed Mar 12 1997 14:171
    i love good lyrics.
302.779BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapWed Mar 12 1997 14:191
    Yeah, but I didn't catch them until I copied them off the web. ;-)
302.780ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 12 1997 14:322
    
    march Madness, people, March madness
302.781NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Mar 12 1997 14:361
.777 _is_ madness.  And it is March.  QED.
302.782LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againWed Mar 12 1997 14:371
    would you hum a few bars?
302.783ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 12 1997 15:333
    
    I was hoping for more sheets from the boxers at large. I thought for
    sure we would get 16-17 entries.
302.784CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Mar 12 1997 15:341
    Is there some sort of tournament going on or something?  
302.785MROA::YANNEKISWed Mar 12 1997 15:508
    
    FYI - espn is running a ncaa bracket contest. Type www.espn.com; then
    pick "tournament bracket" and you'll find the contest.
    
    Greg
    
    PS - You'll also find a Digital ad.
    
302.786WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Mar 12 1997 15:533
    >PS - You'll also find a Digital ad.
    
     What's that?
302.787MROA::YANNEKISWed Mar 12 1997 15:559
    
>    >PS - You'll also find a Digital ad.
>    
>     What's that?
    
    I'm not too sure.  When I first saw it I thought someone was using our
    name ... it took a good 10-15 seconds to realize it was really us 
    advertising on the net.
    
302.788ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteThu Mar 13 1997 11:474
    
    The action starts in 3 and 1/2 hours. Waiting to see bugman's picks.
    He's slaved over them for days. My guess is that debra will beat
    Steve and wind up in the top 3.
302.789In under the wire...SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveThu Mar 13 1997 12:01136
 1. Kentucky
---------------------  Kentucky
16. Montana          |---------
---------------------          | Kentucky
 8. Iowa                       |---------
---------------------  Virginia|         |
 9. Virginia         |---------          |
---------------------                    | Kentucky
 5. Boston College                       |---------
---------------------   BC               |         |
12. Valparaiso       |---------          |         |
---------------------          |   BC    |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |---------          |
---------------------  St. Joe |                   |
13. Pacific          |---------                    |
---------------------                              | Kentucky
 6. Stanford                   			   |---------
---------------------  Stanford                    |         |
11. Oklahoma         |---------                    |         |
---------------------          | Wake F.           |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |---------          |         |
---------------------  Wake F. |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | Wake F. |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |---------	     |
---------------------  G.T.              |                   |
10. Georgetown       |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |  Utah   |                   |
 2. Utah                       |---------                    |
---------------------  Utah    |                             |
15. Navy             |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             | Kentucky
                                                             |---------
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------  Minn.                                 |         |
16. SW Texas         |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | Minn.                       |         |
 8. Mississippi                |---------                    |         |
---------------------  Miss.   |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    | Minn.             |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |---------          |         |
---------------------   Tulsa            |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | Tulsa   |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  Clemson |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |  UCLA   |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |---------          |
---------------------  Iowa St.                    |                   |
11. Illinois State   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |  Cincy            |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Cincy   |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |  UCLA   |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |---------                    |
---------------------  Xavier            |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          | UCLA    |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |---------                              |
---------------------   UCLA   |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       | Kentucky
                                                                       |--------
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------    NC                                            |
16. Fairfield        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |  NC                                   |
 8. Indiana                    |---------                              |
---------------------  Indiana |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |  NC                         |
 5. California                           |---------                    |
---------------------  Calif.            |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | Villa   |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Villa   |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |  NC               |
 6. Louisville                                     |---------          |
---------------------  Mass.                       |         |         |
11. Mass.            |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |  NM               |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |---------          |         |         |
---------------------   NM     |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |   SC    |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |---------          |         |
---------------------  Texas             |                   |         |
10. Texas            |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |  SC     |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |---------                    |         |
---------------------   SC     |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |  NC     |
                                                             |---------
 1. Kansas                                                   |
---------------------   Kansas                               |
16. Jackson State    |---------                              |
---------------------          | Kansas                      |
 8. Purdue                     |---------                    |
---------------------   Purdue |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | Kansas            |
 5. Maryland                             |---------          |
---------------------  Maryland          |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          | Arizona |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |---------          |         |
---------------------  Arizona |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |  Kansas |
 6. Illinois                                       |---------
---------------------  Illinois                    |
11. So. Calif        |---------                    |
---------------------          | Georgia           |
 3. Georgia                    |---------          |
---------------------  Georgia |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |  Duke   |
 7. Marquette                            |---------
---------------------  Providence        |
10. Providence	     |---------          |
---------------------          | Duke    |
 2. Duke                       |---------
---------------------  Duke    |
15. Murray State     |---------
---------------------

302.790ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteThu Mar 13 1997 12:472
    
    <---- good luck karen.
302.791Winning EntrySTAR::EYOUNGThu Mar 13 1997 13:15133
---------------------  Kentucky
16. Montana          |---------
---------------------          | Kentucky
 8. Iowa                       |---------
---------------------  Virginia|         |
 9. Virginia         |---------          |
---------------------                    | Kentucky
 5. Boston College                       |---------
---------------------   BC               |         |
12. Valparaiso       |---------          |         |
---------------------          | St. Joe |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |---------          |
---------------------  St. Joe |                   |
13. Pacific          |---------                    |
---------------------                              | Kentucky
 6. Stanford                                       |---------
---------------------  Stanford                    |         |
11. Oklahoma         |---------                    |         |
---------------------          | Wake F.           |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |---------          |         |
---------------------  Wake F. |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|---------          |         |         |
---------------------                    | Wake F. |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |---------          |
---------------------  Georgetown        |                   |
10. Georgetown       |---------          |                   |
---------------------          |  Utah   |                   |
 2. Utah                       |---------                    |
---------------------  Utah    |                             |
15. Navy             |---------                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             | Kentucky
                                                             |---------
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------  Minn.                                 |         |
16. SW Texas         |---------                              |         |
---------------------          | Minn.                       |         |
 8. Mississippi                |---------                    |         |
---------------------  Miss.   |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------                    | Minn.             |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |---------          |         |
---------------------   BU               |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------          | Clemson |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |---------          |         |         |
---------------------  Clemson |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |  UCLA   |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |---------          |
---------------------  Iowa St.                    |                   |
11. Illinois State   |---------                    |                   |
---------------------          |  Cinc             |                   |
 3. Cincinnati                 |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Cinc    |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |  UCLA   |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |---------                    |
---------------------  Xavier            |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |---------          |                             |
---------------------          | UCLA    |                             |
 2. UCLA                       |---------                              |
---------------------   UCLA   |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---------                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |  NC
                                                                       |--------
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------    NC                                            |
16. Fairfield        |---------                                        |
---------------------          |  NC                                   |
 8. Indiana                    |---------                              |
---------------------  Indiana |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |---------          |                             |
---------------------                    |  NC                         |
 5. California                           |---------                    |
---------------------  Calif.            |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |---------          |         |                   |
---------------------          | Villa   |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |---------          |                   |
---------------------  Villa   |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.       |---------                    |                   |
---------------------                              |  NC               |
 6. Louisville                                     |---------          |
---------------------  Louisville                  |         |         |
11. Mass.            |---------                    |         |         |
---------------------          |  NM               |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |---------          |         |         |
---------------------   NM     |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |---------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |   SC    |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |---------          |         |
---------------------  Wisconsin         |                   |         |
10. Texas            |---------          |                   |         |
---------------------          |  SC     |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |---------                    |         |
---------------------   SC     |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |---------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |  NC     |
                                                             |---------
 1. Kansas                                                   |
---------------------   Kansas                               |
16. Jackson State    |---------                              |
---------------------          | Kansas                      |
 8. Purdue                     |---------                    |
---------------------   Purdue |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |---------          |                   |
---------------------                    | Kansas            |
 5. Maryland                             |---------          |
---------------------  Maryland          |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |---------          |         |         |
---------------------          | Arizona |         |         |
 4. Arizona                    |---------          |         |
---------------------  Arizona |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |---------                    |         |
---------------------                              |  Duke   |
 6. Illinois                                       |---------
---------------------  Illinois                    |
11. So. Calif        |---------                    |
---------------------          | Georgia           |
 3. Georgia                    |---------          |
---------------------  Georgia |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |---------          |         |
---------------------                    |  Duke   |
 7. Marquette                            |---------
---------------------  Marquette         |
10. Providence       |---------          |
---------------------          | Duke    |
 2. Duke                       |---------
---------------------  Duke    |
15. Murray State     |---------
---------------------
302.792PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftThu Mar 13 1997 13:17127
Kentucky
          Montana
Montana
                    Montana
Iowa
          Iowa
Virginia
                              Montana
Boston College
          Boston College
Valparaiso
                    Pacific
St. Joseph's
          Pacific                       Utah
Pacific

Stanford
          Stanford
Oklahoma
                    Wake Forest
Wake Forest
          Wake Forest
St. Mary's, Calif
                              Utah
N.C. Charlotte
          Georgetown
Georgetown
                    Utah
Utah
          Utah                                    Iowa State
Navy

Minnesota
          Minnesota
SW Texas
                    Minnesota
Mississippi
          Mississippi
Temple
                              Minnesota
Tulsa
          Boston University
Boston University
                    Clemson
Clemson
          Clemson                       Iowa State
Miami, Ohio

Iowa State
          Iowa State
Illinois State
                    Iowa State
Cincinatti
          Cincinatti
Butler
                              Iowa State
Xavier, Ohio
          Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt
                    UCLA
UCLA
          UCLA
Charleston, So.

North Carolina                                              Marquette
          Fairfield
Fairfield
                    Fairfield
Indiana
          Colorado
Colorado
                              Fairfield
California
          Princeton
Princeton
                    Princeton
Villanova
          Villanova                     Coppin State
L.I. Univ

Louisville
          Mass.
Mass.
                    Mass.
New Mexico
          New Mexico
Old Dominion
                              Coppin State
Wisconsin
          Texas
Texas
                    Coppin State
South Carolina
          Coppin State                            Marquette
Coppin State

Kansas
          Kansas
Jackson State
                    Purdue
Purdue
          Purdue
Rhode Island
                              Maryland
Maryland
          Maryland
Col. Charleston
                    Maryland
Arizona
          S. Alabama                    Marquette
S. Alabama

Illinois
          So. Calif
So. Calif
                    So. Calif
Georgia
          Tenn-Chatt.
Tenn-Chatt.
                              Marquette
Marquette
          Marquette
Providence
                    Marquette
Duke
          Murray State
Murray State
302.793ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteThu Mar 13 1997 13:183
    
    well, -mr. bill, I don't think anyone will be picking the same teams as
    you did. Good luck in the pool.
302.794ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteThu Mar 13 1997 13:182
    
    Leech, you are running out of time, same with doc.
302.795My picks...ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyThu Mar 13 1997 13:57136
 1. Kentucky 
---------------------
16. Montana          |---KY----
---------------------          |
 8. Iowa                       |---KY----
---------------------          |         |
 9. Virginia         |--VIRG---          |
---------------------                    |
 5. Boston College                       |----KY---
---------------------                    |         |
12. Valparaiso       |---BC----          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |---BC----          |
---------------------          |                   |
13. Pacific          |--St.Joe-                    |
---------------------                              |
 6. Stanford                   			   |---KY----
---------------------                              |         |
11. Oklahoma         |-STANFORD                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |--WAKE---          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|--WAKE---          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |--UTAH---	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10. Georgetown       |--GEORGE-          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2. Utah                       |--UTAH---                    |
---------------------          |                             |
15. Navy             |--UTAH---                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |-KENTUCKY
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16. SW Texas         |--MINN---                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8. Mississippi                |--TEMPLE-                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |--TEMPLE-          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |-CLEMSON-          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |--TULSA--          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |-CLEMSON-          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |--CLEMSON                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |-UCLA----          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11. Illinois State   |-ILL. ST.                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |-CINCY---          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |-CINCY---          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |-UCLA----                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |-XAVIER--          |                             |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |-UCLA----                              |
---------------------          |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |-UCLA----                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |KANSAS
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------                                                  |
16. Fairfield        |-NC------                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8. Indiana                    |-NC------                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |-COLORADO          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5. California                           |-NC------                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |-PRINCETON         |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |PRINCETON          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |-VILL----                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6. Louisville                                     |-NC------          |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11. Mass.            |-LOUIS---                    |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |-NM------          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |-NM------          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |-SC------          |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10. Texas            |-TEXAS---          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |-SC------                    |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |-SC------                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |-KANSAS--
 1. Kansas                                                   |
---------------------                                        |
16. Jackson State    |-KANSAS--                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8. Purdue                     |-KANSAS--                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |-RI------          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5. Maryland                             |-KANSAS--          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |-CHARLES-          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |-CHARLES-          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |-S. ALA--                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6. Illinois                                       |-KANSAS--
---------------------                              |
11. So. Calif        |-ILL-----                    |
---------------------          |                   |
 3. Georgia                    |-GEORGIA-          |
---------------------          |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |-GEORGIA-          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7. Marquette                            |-DUKE----
---------------------                    |
10. Providence	     |-MAR-----          |
---------------------          |         |
 2. Duke                       |-DUKE----
---------------------          |                           
15. Murray State     |-DUKE----
---------------------
    
302.796WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjThu Mar 13 1997 14:06136
 1. Kentucky 
---------------------
16. Montana          |----KY---
---------------------          |
 8. Iowa                       |----KY---
---------------------          |         |
 9. Virginia         |----VA---          |
---------------------                    |
 5. Boston College                       |----KY---
---------------------                    |         |
12. Valparaiso       |----BC---          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |
 4. St. Joseph's               |---BC----          |
---------------------          |                   |
13. Pacific          |-St.Joe--                    |
---------------------                              |
 6. Stanford                   			   |----KY---
---------------------                              |         |
11. Oklahoma         |-Stanfor-                    |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
 3. Wake Forest                |-Wake F--          |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
14. St. Mary's, Calif|--Wake-F-          |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |
 7. N.C. Charlotte                       |-WakeF---	     |
---------------------                    |                   |
10. Georgetown       |-UNC-Cha-          |                   |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 2. Utah                       |-Utah----                    |
---------------------          |                             |
15. Navy             |--Utah---                              |
---------------------                                        |
                                                             |
                                                             |----KY---
 1. Minnesota                                                |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
16. SW Texas         |--Minn---                              |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
 8. Mississippi                |--Minn---                    |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 9. Temple           |-Temple--          |                   |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
 5. Tulsa                                |--Minn---          |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
12. Boston Univ      |--Tulsa--          |         |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
 4. Clemson                    |-Clemson-          |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
13. Miami, Ohio      |-Clemson-                    |         |         |
---------------------                              |         |         |
 6. Iowa State                                     |--UCLA---          |
---------------------                              |                   |
11. Illinois State   |-IowaSt--                    |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
 3. Cincinnati 	               |-IowaSt--          |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
14. Butler           |---Cincy-          |         |                   |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
 7. Xavier, Ohio                         |--UCLA---                    |
---------------------                    |                             |
10. Vanderbilt       |-Xavier--          |			       |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 2. UCLA   	               |-UCLA---                               |
---------------------          |                                       |
15. Charleston, So.  |---UCLA--                                        |
---------------------                                                  |
                                                                       |
                                                                       |---KY---
 1. North Carolina                                                     |
---------------------                                                  |
16. Fairfield        |---NC----                                        |
---------------------          |                                       |
 8. Indiana                    |----NC---                              |
---------------------          |         |                             |
 9. Colorado         |---Ind---          |                             |
---------------------                    |                             |
 5. California                           |----NC---                    |
---------------------                    |         |                   |
12. Princeton        |-Calif---          |         |                   |
---------------------          |         |         |                   |
 4. Villanova                  |-Villano-          |                   |
---------------------          |                   |                   |
13. L.I. Univ.	     |-Villano-                    |                   |
---------------------                              |                   |
 6. Louisville                                     |----NC---          |
---------------------                              |         |         |
11. Mass.            |-Louisvi-                    |         |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |         |
 3. New Mexico                 |---NM----          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |         |
14. Old Dominion     |---NM----          |         |         |         |
---------------------                    |         |         |         |
 7. Wisconsin                            |----NM---          |         |
---------------------                    |                   |         |
10. Texas            |--Wisc---          |                   |         |
---------------------          |         |                   |         |
 2. South Carolina             |----SC---                    |         |
---------------------          |                             |         |
15. Coppin State     |----SC---                              |         |
---------------------                                        |         |
                                                             |         |
                                                             |----KS---
 1. Kansas                                                   |
---------------------                                        |
16. Jackson State    |----KS---                              |
---------------------          |                             |
 8. Purdue                     |----KS---                    |
---------------------          |         |                   |
 9. Rhode Island     |---URI---          |                   |
---------------------                    |                   |
 5. Maryland                             |----KS---          |
---------------------                    |         |         |
12. Col.Charleston   |-Marylnd-          |         |         |
---------------------          |         |         |         |
 4. Arizona 	               |-Marylnd-          |         |
---------------------          |                   |         |
13. S.Alabama        |-Arizona-                    |         |
---------------------                              |         |
 6. Illinois                                       |----KS---
---------------------                              |
11. So. Calif        |-Illinoi-                    |
---------------------          |                   |
 3. Georgia                    |---GA----          |
---------------------          |         |         |
14. Tenn-Chatt.      |---GA----          |         |
---------------------                    |         |
 7. Marquette                            |--Duke---
---------------------                    |
10. Providence	     |-Marquet-          |
---------------------          |         |
 2. Duke                       |---Duke--
---------------------          |
15. Murray State     |--Duke---
---------------------
    
302.797ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyThu Mar 13 1997 14:191
    30 minutes left to post your picks...  
302.798LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayThu Mar 13 1997 14:221
    kentucky seems to be the sizzler team this year.
302.799ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteThu Mar 13 1997 14:592
    
    <--- but Kansas is going to bring home the bacon.
302.800ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyThu Mar 13 1997 16:144
    Poll is closed.  We have 13 participants in this year's NCAA soapbox
    pool... a bit of an improvement over last year.
    
    Good luck to all.  <hex hex hex hex>
302.801WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjThu Mar 13 1997 16:231
    <octal octal octal>
302.802ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyThu Mar 13 1997 16:351
    Hey!  Quit octaling me.  8^)
302.803ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteThu Mar 13 1997 16:532
    
    gon gon gon
302.804ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyThu Mar 13 1997 18:2313
    First three teams to advance:
    
    California (beat Princeton by a mere three points... a come from
    behind victory)
    
    Cincinnati 
    
    Kansas
    
    
    
    Darnit, things aren't starting well for me.  I have picked princeton
    as a sweet 16 spoiler.  Oh well...
302.805TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeThu Mar 13 1997 18:464
    3 for 3, so far.
    
    My sweet 16 spoilers are Long Island University and the College of
    Charleston.
302.806ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteThu Mar 13 1997 19:225
    
    .804
    
    That's what you get for slaving over your picks for days. should have
    done what I did, grab a sheet, pop a beer and write. works everytime.
302.807CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayThu Mar 13 1997 19:258


 Just do what I do..watch the games, and have a good time..don't worry 
 about the rest.


 Jim
302.808ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteThu Mar 13 1997 19:272
    
    <---- ignore that imposter.
302.809LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayThu Mar 13 1997 19:421
    how i hate to do this.  impostor.
302.810SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveThu Mar 13 1997 19:4412
    	
    	BC Won!!
    	
    	yippee!
    
    	Rhode Island and Purdue just went into overtime, tied at 70
    
    	It looks like Villanova is pulling off a victory... yup,
    	just in, 101-91.
    
    	I'm doing great!
    
302.811ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyThu Mar 13 1997 19:504
    .806
    
    Oh yes, I would have probably been much better off had I gone with my
    first sheet I filled out.
302.812TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeThu Mar 13 1997 20:021
    -2    so much for Long Island Univ.  8^(
302.813ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 14 1997 11:3953
    We're half way through the first round of action, and here is the list
    of teams advancing to the next round.
    
    In the West:
    
    Kentucky (gave Montana a severe thrashing)
    Iowa (a solid win vs. Virginia)
    Boston College (didn't get to see any of this game)
    St. Joe's (ditto)
    
    
    In the Midwest:
    
    Iowa St. (fended off a feisty Ill. St. team... so much for that
    	upset pick  8^) )
    Cincinnati (crushed Butler early, but got lazy in the second half)
    Xavier (didn't get to watch this one)
    UCLA (soundly thrashed Charleston So.)
    
    
    In the East:
    
    North Carolina (squeaked by Fairfield... and I do mean squeaked -
    	Fairfield had a decent shot of winning this game)
    Colorado (sent Indiana packing... they are a very explosive team)
    California (just barely beat Princeton... another upset pick gone awry)
    Villanova
    
    
    In the Southeast:
    
    Kansas (down in the early goings, but came back strong)
    Purdue (wins in OT vs. a fast RI team)
    Coll. of Charleston (this team is for real)
    Arizona (my upset pick lead the game, having as much as a 10-pt. lead
    	at one time, until the last 2.5 minutes.  They had a good game
    	plan, but in the end, could not handle Arizona's press)
    
    
    
    
    That's it for now sportsfans.  I'm not doing too well.  I made good
    choices in my upset picks, at least when you look at the games... they
    all could have (and two of them *should have*) won.  None were blown
    out.  And for the record, I don't view Coll. of Charleston's victory as
    an upset.  They are ranked higher in the API poll than Maryland, and
    have one of the best records in the nation.  I think they are out to
    prove that they deserve their national ranking.
    
    
    -steve
    
    
302.814BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Mar 14 1997 12:023

	I can't wait until you tabulate all the points we get for Monday!
302.815 <hex hex hex> ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 14 1997 12:369
    Our leader from yesterday's games is....
    
    CHRIS!
    
    Chris is in the early lead with 15 pts. out of a possible 16.  Nice
    start, Chris.
    
    Of course, this is only half of round one's results, so don't get too
    excited about your lead.  8^)
302.816WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjFri Mar 14 1997 12:401
    So like post the compiled results, eh?
302.817ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 14 1997 12:461
    I'd rather not, seeings how I'm doing so pathetically bad...  8^) 
302.818BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Mar 14 1997 12:501
but that is expected. so post away!
302.819[insert silly smiley face]PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftFri Mar 14 1997 12:536
    
|   I'd rather not, seeings how I'm doing so pathetically bad...  8^) 
    
    Could be worst.
    
    								-mr. bill
302.820ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 14 1997 13:2044
    Okay, since I AM keeping score, I should post results no matter how
    bad my picks were.  8^)
    
    
    Battis, last year's soapbox pool champ - 12
    Butkovich, our current leader	   - 15
    ::EYOUNG	- 13
    Haas 	- 13
    Jennison	- 13
    Leech	- 11 
    Levesque	- 12
    Lortie	-  9 (holding up the rear, the east brackets were 
    			not kind to you  8^) )
    
    Mr. Bill	- 9 (tied for last... your Fairfield upset pick wasn't 
    			as bad as everyone thought  8^) )
    Mz_Debra	- 11 (Princeton let us both down, eh?)
    Richardson	- 12 
    Silva	- 13 (UMass going to the final 4??(!), not bloody likely)
    Yannekis	- 12 
    
    
    
    Interesting matchups for next round:
    
    Xavier vs. UCLA.  Xavier has always been a tourney spoiler... just ask
    Georgetown.  Never bet against this team in the first round.  This
    year, they are ranked, and dangerous (just ask Cincinnati).  This could
    be an upset in the making (I nearly picked this on my sheet, actually,
    but decided to go with the odds).
    
    Colorado vs. NC.  NC struggled with Fairfield.  Colorado looked very
    solid against Indiana - a very explosive team.  They could pull an
    upset here.
    
    College of Charleston vs. Arizona.  They both like to keep the tempo
    up, so it will be a matter of who executes the best, or who has
    the least number of turnovers.  This one could go either way.  My pick
    is Coll. of Charleston on the sheet, and I think they can win.
    
    
    
    -steve 
    
302.821BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Mar 14 1997 13:474

	And what is really cool is I can come in here for the results and I
don't have to watch any stinkin games!
302.822TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeFri Mar 14 1997 14:309
    Nice come back by Arizona.
    
    What happened to Bobby Knight?  He sure wasn't acting like his usual
    self.
    
    Too bad about Long Island Univ.... wasn't this the game that went into
    OT?  I could have had a perfect record!
    
    
302.823ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 14 1997 17:062
    I think you may be thinking of the Purdue game, when they beat Rhode
    Island in OT.  A good comeback, it was.  I thought they were doomed.
302.824ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 14 1997 17:1814
    Miami made a valliant effort in the last couple of minutes over a much
    larger Clemson squad, but it was too little too late.  I give them a
    lot of credit for overcoming what I thought was an insurmountable lead
    by a larger and more physical team.
    
    There's about 40 seconds left, but Miami is down 8 and has put Clemson
    on the line.  Stick a fork in 'em.
    
    In a big surprise, Tenn-Chatt was creaming Georgia into the second
    half.  Georgia has come back, though, and has a chance to win.  Go
    Georgia! 
    
    
    -steve
302.825ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 14 1997 17:451
    Tenn-Chatt upsets Georgia... they win by 3.
302.826POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Fri Mar 14 1997 17:474
    
    Oh, !@#$%^&* me.
    
    
302.827ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 14 1997 17:591
    Don't say that too loud... Slab is lurking in the shadows.  8^)
302.828TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeFri Mar 14 1997 18:022
    Damn!  Another of my Sweet 16 picks shot down.  I can only hope that
    the rest of you also chose Georgia.
302.829SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveFri Mar 14 1997 18:024
    
    	YIKES !!!
    
    
302.830BUSY::SLABGo Go Gophers watch them go go go!Fri Mar 14 1997 18:305
    
    	RE: .826
    
    	All talk.  What a tease!!
    
302.831ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 14 1997 18:362
    Never fear... just about everyone lost two brackets with the Georgia
    loss.  It was pretty much a wash.
302.832Mr_Bill just scored a serious coup 8^oPOWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Fri Mar 14 1997 20:004
    
    Coppin State?  Coppin State?  WHO THE !@#$%^&* IS COPPIN STATE?!
    
    
302.833as of 5:15pmTROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeFri Mar 14 1997 20:1019
    NCAA Men's Basketball
    
    
         Texas vs. Wisconsin                     UT   71 WIS  58 - Final                       
         Miami (Ohio) vs. Clemson                MIO  56 CLE  68 - Final                       
         Tennessee-Chattano vs. Georgia          TCH  73 GA   70 - Final                       
         Georgetown vs. Unc-Charlotte            GEO  67 NCH  79 - Final                       
         Coppin State vs. South Carolina         COP  78 SCO  65 - Final                       
         Boston University vs. Tulsa             BU   52 TUL  81 - Final                       
         Southern Cal vs. Illinois               USC  70 ILL  77 - 2nd half                    
         Navy vs. Utah                           Game begins at  5:12PM ET                 
         Providence vs. Marquette                Game begins at  7:40PM ET                 
         Old Dominion vs. New Mexico             Game begins at  7:40PM ET                 
         Temple vs. Mississippi                  Game begins at  7:50PM ET                 
         St. Mary'S (Calif. vs. Wake Forest      Game begins at  7:55PM ET                 
         Murray State vs. Duke                   Game begins at 10:10PM ET                 
         Massachusetts vs. Louisville            Game begins at 10:10PM ET                 
         Southwest Texas St vs. Minnesota        Game begins at 10:20PM ET                 
         Oklahoma vs. Stanford                   Game begins at 10:25PM ET                 
302.834POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Fri Mar 14 1997 20:276
    
    Illinois beat USC, 90 to 77.
    
    
    <grumble> Coppin State.
    
302.835TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeFri Mar 14 1997 20:343
    up to the minute scores can be obtained at:
    
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores97/scores.htm#ncaab
302.836TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeMon Mar 17 1997 04:452
    I think my only hope is for Kansas to win one more game and then get
    knocked out of the tourney.   *&%$! Duke!
302.837ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 17 1997 14:3424
    This has been reposted with corrections.  Serves me right for going
    over the sheets in the morning before having had my first cup o' java.
    
    
    After two rounds, here are the results:
  
    
    Richardson	- 44
    Butkovich	- 44
    Battis	- 41
    Mz_Debra	- 41
    Levesque	- 40
    Yannekis	- 40
    ::EYOUNG	- 40                                        
    Haas	- 39
    Jennison	- 38
    Leech	- 35
    Silva	- 35
    Lortie	- 32
    Mr. Bill	- 28
    
    
    
    -steve (your friendly neighborhood score-keeper)
302.838POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Mon Mar 17 1997 14:369
    
    Excuse me.
    
    I'd like to know how the two Canadians managed to be in first place.
    
    <8^E
    
    
    
302.839MROA::YANNEKISMon Mar 17 1997 14:4112
    
    Has anyone lost their champ yet or any of their final 4 teams? 
    
    It felt like my pool was going in the dumper but I'm actually OK.  I
    only have 2 guarenteed losers (South Carolina and Duke in the next
    round) for the rest of the tournament.  I could get all but 8 of the
    remaining points.
    
    Did anyone have Duke winning?   That knocks of 60 points right there!
    
    Greg
      
302.840TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeMon Mar 17 1997 14:464
    Beats me.  I hadn't watched one NCAA game all year.
    
    Must be my feminine intuition!  8^)    (maybe one of Glenn's female
    personalities helped him out)
302.841TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeMon Mar 17 1997 14:486
    >>>  Did anyone have Duke winning?   That knocks of 60 points right
    there!
    
    
    No.... but I did have them playing Kentucky for the finals... which is
    why I need Kansas to lose after the next round.   *&^%!@ Duke!
302.842BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Mar 17 1997 14:506
| <<< Note 302.838 by POWDML::HANGGELI "Because I Can." >>>


| I'd like to know how the two Canadians managed to be in first place.

	They picked more teams that won than anyone else. nnttm
302.843ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 17 1997 16:408
    What's even scarier is that Mr. Bill can actually win, should Iowa St.
    make the finals and play someone other than NC or Kansas.  From the way
    things are going this year, I just wouldn't be too sceptical about this
    possibility.
    
    
    -steve (who isn't mathematically out of it yet, I still have all my
    final 4 teams left  8^) )
302.844Maybe curiouser....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Mar 17 1997 17:277
|   What's even scarier is that Mr. Bill can actually win
    
    If I were to get elected President of the United States, scary.
    
    But March Madness is *not* scary.
    
    								-mr. bill
302.845what kind is anyone's guess... 8^)ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 17 1997 18:402
    But with your...uhm, *interesting* picks, I would find that you winning the
    boxpool would be more than curious... it would be an omen of sorts.
302.846even, darest we say...GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersMon Mar 17 1997 18:424
 a conspiracy ?

  bb
302.847ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 17 1997 18:454
    The tri-lateral commission could be behind it, yesiree.  In fact, Mr.
    Bill could be a secret member... that would explain the anti-nutter
    slant in all his notes.  ;^)  It's starting to make more and more sense
    by the minute.  8^)
302.848POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Mon Mar 17 1997 20:547
    
    I've only got 8 of my sweet 16 teams left, 6 of my 8, and all 4 of my
    final four.
    
    <8^E
    
                   
302.849BUSY::SLABAlways a Best Man, never a groomMon Mar 17 1997 21:104
    
    	I'm keeping a list of all my picks in my head.  I'll let you know
    	how I did when the tournament is over.
    
302.850TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeMon Mar 17 1997 21:433
    you're doing better than me.... I only have 8 of my 16, 5 of my 8, 3 of
    my 4 and 1 of my 2.   I have to hope that Clemson does well for a
    couple of rounds and that Kansas only wins one more game.
302.851SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveTue Mar 18 1997 13:557
    
    	re .838
    
    	Jumpin' in late here, but I thought we determined systematically
    	last year that Glenn cheats.  Didn't we ?
    
    
302.852MROA::YANNEKISTue Mar 18 1997 14:148
    
    hmmm ... I still have 10 of my sweet 16 and possibilities of 6 of the 
    elite 8, 4 of the final 4, and the champ.  Thursday and Friday I need a
    Stanford win and everyone to suck wind in the Louisville-Texas and
    Providence-Chattanoga games and I should be in the hunt.              
                   
    Greg           
      
302.853ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 19 1997 11:365
    
    well, I still have 5 teams out of the elite 8 left. all 4 of my final
    four are still kicking. Unless Clemson beats Minnesota and UCLA gets
    beat by Iowa St, i don't think I can win. oh well, probably time for
    a new champion, perhaps Debra or Chris.
302.854ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyWed Mar 19 1997 11:414
    Well,  I have 6 teams alive for next round, and all four final four
    teams left.  
    
    It ain't over until it's over.  8^)
302.855BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapWed Mar 19 1997 11:423
What do they do with the dead teams?  Mass grave?

(Sorry.  This "alive/dead" thing just gives me the creeps.)
302.856ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 19 1997 12:072
    
    dawn, death is a part of life. get used to it.
302.857ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyWed Mar 19 1997 12:072
    Dead teams are recycled for next year... sometimes missing certain key
    ingredients.
302.858BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapWed Mar 19 1997 12:083
    re: "death is a part of life"
    
    And a well anticipated part, if the only thing on TV is MP.
302.859go UCONN !!!GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersWed Mar 19 1997 12:224
  so what's the NIT, purgatory ?

  bb
302.860ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 19 1997 12:492
    
    yes, bb, just ask Jim Boeheim, he'll tell you the same thing.
302.861ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteThu Mar 20 1997 19:312
    
    good luck everyone, see you on monday.
302.862BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Thu Mar 20 1997 19:321
battis.... just how will you SEE us?
302.863BUSY::SLABErotic NightmaresThu Mar 20 1997 19:373
    
    	And, more importantly, why would you even want to?
    
302.864ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 21 1997 11:4953
    Halfway through the Elite 8 round... here are the results:
    
    Richardson - 60
    Mz_Debra   - 57
    Butkovich  - 52
    Levesque   - 52
    Yannekis   - 52
    EYOUNG     - 51
    Haas       - 51
    Jennison   - 50
    Battis     - 49 (welcome to the bottom half of the page, Blazer-boy 8)
    Leech      - 47 
    Lortie     - 40
    Silva      - 39
    Mr. Bill   - 36 (too bad your Iowa St. pick didn't pan out... I was 
    			rootin' for 'em)
    
    
    
    UCLA bit the bullet last night, with a 1-pt. win in OT with Iowa St. 
    Even though I picked UCLA in the boxpool (and in one of my sheets in
    the office pool), I was rootin' for Iowa St.  One sheet in the office
    pool isn't doing too bad, but I picked Cincy in that bracket to go to
    the final 4 (a dumb move, Cincy hasn't beat a ranked team all year). 
    If Iowa St. had won, and then gone on to knock off the yellow gofers in
    the next round, everyone else's sheet would have been dead in that
    particular bracket.   Oh well.  I lose ground no matter what, now.
    
    Iowa St. blew a nice lead early in the second half.  In fact, it took
    them only a couple minutes of game time to lose a 13 point lead.  I
    missed the end of this game, and I'm glad I did.
    
    Kentucky had absolutely no problem with St. Joe's.
    
    Utah/Stanford game went into OT... what a great game!  Utah played OT
    without three starters (who fouled out - including VanHorn), but
    managed to win.  Stanford is a lot better team that I thought.  Never
    really heard much about them over the last year.
    
    Minn. squeaked by Clemson in double OT.  Clemson was down in
    regulation, but made a great run at the end of the game to bring it
    within 2, and a last second shot tied the game, sending it into OT.
    I thought they were going to win it in the first OT, but squandered a 6
    point lead when they tried to milk the clock too early.  Had they just
    kept playing, they likely would have won the game.  It looked like they
    had nothing left in the second OT... they looked terrible.
    
    I was really hoping Minn. would get knocked off, it really would have
    helped my standings.  Now, I'll probably drop in the office pool. 
    Grr... (I'll never pick UC to go farther than the second round again).
    
    Oh how I wish I had turned in my original sheet this year... <kick,
    kick, kick>.
302.865SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveFri Mar 21 1997 12:384
    
    	What about the Richardson Cheating Scandal ?
    
    
302.866BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Mar 21 1997 12:432
seems mz deb is in hot pursuit of him....    

302.867SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveFri Mar 21 1997 12:493
    
    	{ahem}
    
302.868POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Fri Mar 21 1997 12:553
    
    Oh dear 8^o.
    
302.869TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeFri Mar 21 1997 15:196
    Well Clemson losing really hurts me.   I have to hope that Kentucky
    makes it all the way and that Kansas loses the next round.
    
    I was busy watching the skating last night so I didn't see the
    Minn/Clemson game.   Way to go Elvis!   (too bad about Scott Hamilton -
    he has been diagnosed with testicular cancer)
302.870POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Mar 21 1997 15:255
    I was watching the Utah/Stanford game, and I was getting too stressed
    out so I went to bed. Almost as bad as watching the Habs play in
    overtime, drives me crazy!
    
    (8^E
302.871TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeFri Mar 21 1997 15:383
    <--- yeah, I know the feeling.
    
    Can you imagine if we had money on these games?  8-o
302.872No repeat this year... I'm going down in flames.ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Mar 21 1997 16:3518
    Ouch.  I dropped in the office pool - from 4th to 19th.  I'm out of it.
    Thanks Clemson!  Thanks Iowa St.!  <grumble, spit, fume, whine>  I
    would have held my ground had these two teams won, and would have been
    in a great position to at least place in the pool.  Instead, I lose 8 
    points this round, and another 8 points next round in ONE lousy bracket 
    alone.  Stick a fork in me, I'm done.
    
    The only chance I have now is with my spoiler sheet (which moved up to
    mid-pack after last night).  This means that Utah must beat Kentucky, 
    UCLA must beat the golden goobers, NC must get beat, and Kansas 
    has to win... then I *might* (it's a longshot) sneak into 3rd.
    
    Not to use hindsight to beat myself up or anything, but if I had simply
    turned in the very first sheet I filled out, I would be in the lead by
    several points.  Grr... <stupid stupid stupid>
    
    [1st place is $210.00, this year.  I only got a paltry $150 last year
    for winning.]
302.873LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayFri Mar 21 1997 16:461
    steve, i'm so sorry.
302.874SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveFri Mar 21 1997 18:157
    
    	I found an error in the calculations for someone else's
    	pool, and my husband moved up from eigth place to third.
    
    	He owes me.
    
    
302.875ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 24 1997 11:5029
    Well, I'm out of all the pools, now.  Thanks, Kansas... you played like
    a bunch of goobers most of the game (good comeback, but not quite
    enough).  If they could have sank a few shots, they would have had a
    chance.  I've never been completely out of a pool so soon (even my
    original sheet that I keep crowing about wouldn't place, now).
    
    Here are the latest soapbox pool standings...
    
    Mz_Debra takes the lead with 85 points (too bad she picked Kansas to
    win... her only chance now is if Minn. takes it all).
    
    Richardson is tied for second with Yannekis - both at 80 points
    (Yannekis is in good shape to win the pool, though, since both of his
    finalists are still alive).
    
    Next is Haas with 75.  Then:
    
    Butkovich - 72
    Levesque  - 72
    EYOUNG    - 71
    Jennison  - 70
    Battis    - 69
    Leech     - 67
    Silva     - 55
    Lortie    - 52
    Mr. Bill  - 36
    
    
    That's it until next week.  
302.876ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 24 1997 11:511
    Anyone know who made the finals in the NIT?
302.877SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveMon Mar 24 1997 12:5111
    
    	Both of my teams for the semi-finals are still alive,
    	as well as my Championship pick.
    
    	Looks like the semi's will be my chance to pass my
    	husband in points and win that dinner at Peppe's.
    
    	He also owes me dinner because he got a raise, so maybe
    	I'll trade in one dinner for something else.
    
    
302.878BUSY::SLABA swift kick in the butt - $1Mon Mar 24 1997 12:564
    
    	Looks like I'm going to end up with the same number of points as
    	I got last year.
    
302.879ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 24 1997 13:322
    Looks like I'm going to have 50-60 points LESS than last year's office
    pool.  <grumble>
302.880BUSY::SLABAct like you own the companyMon Mar 24 1997 14:033
    
    	Either there are fewer teams this year or you're doing very badly.
    
302.881ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteMon Mar 24 1997 14:363
    
    well, for a defending champion, i picked pretty lousy. Hats off to
    all that still have a chance to win. good luck on saturday.
302.882SHOGUN::KOWALEWICZAre you from away?Mon Mar 24 1997 14:508
  I watched a bit of an NCAA basketball game and I think there may be
 a problem with these folk.  Why one of the announcers said 'in and out'
 like it was a bad thing :-0

Welly well well, Alex, just come to read the metre?

kb
302.883POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Mar 24 1997 14:514
    This taught me a very important lesson. Never count on the Mormons to
    help you win.


302.884Shocking, huh?PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Mar 24 1997 14:534
    
    Abe Lincoln's tips proved not to be the best again.
    
    								-mr. bill
302.885ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 24 1997 16:251
    I think you took his advice too far, Mr. Bill.  8^)
302.886No idea how many would be enough....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Mar 24 1997 16:375
|   I think you took his advice too far, Mr. Bill.  8^)
    
    The only problem is not enough of us are taking his advice.
    
    								-mr. bill
302.887ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 24 1997 16:384
    I can agree with that.  
    
    
    -steve
302.888ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteMon Mar 24 1997 17:122
    
    i prolly should change my personal name, huh?
302.889ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 24 1997 18:381
    Yup.  I think "Wildcat road-kill" has a certain ring to it. 
302.890NHASAD::SHERKI belong! I got circles overme i'sMon Mar 24 1997 19:557
    
    Just count your blessings.
    
      This note would be twice as long if the sheepman was around to crow.
    
    Ken
    
302.891ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ex-championMon Mar 31 1997 13:273
    
    well, it's down to the two best teams. Kentucky and Arizona. I think
    Kentucky will win by 7.
302.892WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Mar 31 1997 13:371
    -1 a touchdown?
302.893ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ex-championMon Mar 31 1997 13:382
    
    um, yes.
302.894ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 31 1997 14:091
    Kentucky by 9.
302.895WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Mar 31 1997 14:361
    I guarantee the Wildcats will win. ;-)
302.896BUSY::SLABAlways a Best Man, never a groomMon Mar 31 1997 14:435
    
    	Really going out on a limb with that prediction, aren't you?
    
    	8^)
    
302.897Championship game is tonight.ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Mar 31 1997 15:0926
    Here are the latest standings in the official Soapbox March Madness
    pool:
    
    
    Mz_Debra  - 101
    Yannekis  -  96
    Butkovich -  88
    Levesque  -  88
    EYOUNG    -  87
    Jennison  -  86
    Battis    -  85
    Leech     -  83
    Richardson - 80
    Haas      -  75
    Silva     -  71
    Lortie    -  52
    Mr. Bill  -  36
    
    
    Players still alive: Butkovich, Levesque, Jennison, Silva... all who
    picked Kentucky to win.  If Kentucky wins, this will the first 4 places
    in the pool (with Butkovich and Levesque sharing the championship); if not,
    the above list will also serve as the final standings.
    
    
    -your friendly neighborhood scorekeeper
302.898ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ex-championMon Mar 31 1997 15:202
    
    either way we have a lady champion. well done ladies. well done.
302.899The Lady Vols....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Mar 31 1997 15:224
    
    I thought Tennessee won the championship already?
    
    								-mr. bill
302.900NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 31 1997 15:231
I like the name of the Fordham University women's teams -- the Lady Rams.
302.901WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Mar 31 1997 15:291
    ewe!
302.902ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ex-championMon Mar 31 1997 20:112
    
    what is the spread for tonights game? 4-5 Kentucky?
302.903POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Mon Mar 31 1997 20:183
    
    Peanut Butter?
    
302.904ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ex-championMon Mar 31 1997 20:232
    
    i'll peanut butter you.
302.905ASGMKA::MARTINConcerto in 66 MovementsMon Mar 31 1997 20:261
    kinky...sign here!! (Harvey Korman in Blazzing Saddles)
302.906ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Apr 01 1997 12:509
    Kentucky goes down in flames... poor shooting ended up biting them in
    the bum.  They managed to get away with it playing Minn., but Arizona
    had their number.
    
    Heck, I had Arizona going out in the first round on one of my sheets
    (and they nearly did go out, too, against S. Alabama).
    
    Congrats to Mz_Debra, who is the new Soapbox March Madness Pool winner. 
    It was a wild tourney... 
302.907ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanTue Apr 01 1997 12:503
    
    what a championship game last night!!! Arizona played fantastic. hated
    to see either team lose.
302.908congrats to the new National Champions and Mz_Debra!WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjTue Apr 01 1997 12:528
    Kentucky can thank their inability to sink a free throw coupled with
    Arizona's inability to miss a free throw for their loss last night.
    If I were Pitino, Mohammed would be practicing free throws for a long,
    long time.
    
    Arizona outhustled Kentucky. How many times did Kentucky make a steal
    or block a shot only to lose the ball back to Arizona and Arizona would
    score every time. 
302.909ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanTue Apr 01 1997 12:582
    
    Mz_Debra, congratulations on winning the soapbox pool. You did great.
302.910ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Apr 01 1997 13:0322
    Arizona must have had nearly half of their points via the charity
    stripe.  Mohammed went 0 for 6 on the line... which was detrimental to
    the team.  Of course, he played an excellent game outside this and a
    few missed layups.  
    
    Kentucky finally ran into a team that is faster than they are.  I was
    wondering if this would give them problems, since they depend so much
    on their press.  I told my dad the other night that Arizona had a good
    chance of beating them (though I wouldn't have put money on it  8^) )
    due to this factor, and the fact that Kentucky was really beat up by
    Minn. 
    
    In a big game like this, you expect your star player to step up... in
    this case, neither key scorers stepped up for either team.  Mercier was
    nearly a non-factor.  He's got talent, but he's going to have to learn
    how to take abuse in the paint and still keep his composure.  He has
    his work cut out for him in the NBA.
    
    While I was rootin' for Kentucky, it is kind of nice to see someone new
    win the championship.  I've always had a weak spot for the underdog. 
    
    It was a great game... both teams gave it all they had.
302.911POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Apr 01 1997 13:035
    
    <restrained dance of joy>
    
    Hey, what do I win?
    
302.912ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanTue Apr 01 1997 13:042
    
    <---- a long overdue date with shawn. congrats again.
302.913EVMS::MORONEYTue Apr 01 1997 18:144
Good thing you won, MzDeb.  Otherwise you would have gotten the consolation
prize - TWO dates with Shawn.

-Madman
302.914B e c a u s e S h e C a nCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Apr 01 1997 18:201
Better watch out.  Mebbe she'll go out with Shawn just to spite all of you.
302.915ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanTue Apr 01 1997 18:442
    
    john, shawn couldn't be so lucky.
302.916BUSY::SLABCatch you later!!Tue Apr 01 1997 19:463
    
    	Congratulations, Deb!!
    
302.917ACISS2::BROWNETue Apr 01 1997 19:526
    Hate to have to say it, but Pitino was out-coached. When it became
    obvious that the press was not going to bother Arizona, and at the same
    time that the Kentucky players were running out of gas; you have to
    adjust and go to a half court defense.
    
    	Give credit to Lute Olsen!!
302.918ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanTue Apr 01 1997 20:233
    
    I expect mz_debra to change her p_name to reflect her new status
    as 1997 champion of Soapbox. wear the badge with pride, debra!!!
302.919BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Apr 02 1997 02:181
unless the prize changes, I'm not so sure she is proud. :-)
302.920LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayWed Apr 02 1997 13:551
    debra, you win a free martini.  or two.  ;-)
302.921POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Wed Apr 02 1997 14:003
    
    <bounce>
    
302.922too bad #2 finishes out of the $WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Apr 02 1997 14:142
    Came in 3rd here and 2nd in the office $ pool. Not bad for one who
    watched his first college b-ball game of the season monday night. :-)
302.923ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanWed Apr 02 1997 14:254
    
    .922
    
    Leech, take notes.
302.924SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Apr 02 1997 14:3212
    
    	For the second year in a row, I beat my husband in
    	the brackets.  He owes me dinner !
    
    	This is going to be tricky, though.  He now owes me two
    	dinners, as we didn't get to go on our date Saturday night
    	because Emily had a fever.  Next weekend is his birthday, 
    	so I can't make him take me out then.  By the time I
    	collect, it'll be winter again!
    
    	Karen
    
302.925I'll be sending him a bill for this oneWAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Apr 02 1997 14:421
    Take it out in trade, Karen.
302.926SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Apr 02 1997 14:494
    
    	Hey, it's supposed to be my reward, not his.
    
    
302.927WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Apr 02 1997 14:521
    You don't find it rewarding? Hmmmmmmmmm.
302.928SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Apr 02 1997 15:034
    
    	That's not what I said.
    
    
302.929WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Apr 02 1997 15:071
    Oh, you simply don't want him to enjoy it. I see.
302.930ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanWed Apr 02 1997 15:072
    
    doc, a bit of advice. quit while you're behind.