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215.0. "Favorite Cartoons?" by HAAG::HAAG () Mon Dec 26 1994 21:18

got any?
    
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    yup. the RR and coyote tunes are immortal. enjoyed them as a youngster
    and ain't ashamed of saying i watch 'em today as well. also i like the
    yosemite sam ones.
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215.1NETRIX::thomasThe Code WarriorMon Dec 26 1994 21:5017
Roadrunner/Coyote are classic.
I also like Sylvester (especially with the aussie mice).

Of the current cartoons in production, Eek the Cat is probably my favorite
(though Darkwing Duck can be very funny as can be Aladdin).  The Tick is
strange but very funny if only if you pay attention.

For serious cartoons, the old Johnny Quest (though now matter how politically
incorrect they may be now) were great.  (The one with the energy monster gave
me nightmares which I first it way back when.)

For today, Phantom 2040 is pretty good as is the current Batman incarnation.
Phantom 2040 has pretty well developed characters who have imperfections. 
Plus none of the characters are of the "stupid" variety.

Mighty Max is also one of the better ones (I like it because it showcases a
kid that uses his brain to save himself, his sidekicks, and the world).
215.2HAAG::HAAGMon Dec 26 1994 22:343
    i've alos like bullwinkle j. moose and rocky the squirrel. i used to
    watch the jetsons religously. back in it's early days all that spacey
    stuff seemed really cool.
215.3CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanMon Dec 26 1994 23:1912



  Foghorn Leghorn
  rocky and bullwinkle
  Roadrunner




 Jim
215.4Takes me back!BUDDRY::J_OPPELTPlucky kind of a kidTue Dec 27 1994 00:539
    	Tom Terriffic and Mighty Manfred his Wonder Dog.
    
    	Courageous Cat and Minute Mouse.
    
    	Speed Racer.
    
    	Gigantor.
    
    	Anybody ever see Col. Bleep?
215.5POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of EcstacyTue Dec 27 1994 01:182
    
    tom & jerry
215.6DELNI::SHOOKclinton has been newt-ralizedTue Dec 27 1994 02:186
    sylvester
    coyote and road runner
    under dog
    yosemite sam
    
    
215.7My faves.SCAPAS::GUINEO::MOOREI'll have the rat-on-a-stickTue Dec 27 1994 04:297
    "Thufferin' Thuckatash".
    
    "I'll get that wabbit."
    
    "Ah say, ah say, B O Y !"
    
    "Where'th that tweety-bird ?"
215.8MKOTS3::LABORE_MPatriots #1Tue Dec 27 1994 06:342
    Dont forget  Kimba, Speedracer.
    
215.9Odd man out...GAAS::BRAUCHERTue Dec 27 1994 09:317
    
    Bugs is king.
    
    Believe it or not, I roll on the ground on watching Mr. Magoo.
    
    bb
    
215.10WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Dec 27 1994 10:001
    Duckman?
215.11beavis and butthead - NOT!CSSREG::BROWNKB1MZ FN42Tue Dec 27 1994 10:1611
    flintstones, 
    jetsons,
    yogi & booboo (and ranger smith),
    coyote & roadrunner              
    bugs, fudd, tazmanian devil, daffy duck, & co.
    rocky & bullwinkle
    foghorn & the chicken hawk
    
    and for current productions, simpsons, ren & stimpy, and 	
    rocko's modern world.  though they mey never be real classics like the 
    ones above.
215.12Correction: the EARLY Ren & Stimpy. Later R&S SUX!!LJSRV2::KALIKOWSERVE&lt;a href=&quot;SURF_GLOBAL&quot;&gt;LOCAL&lt;/a&gt;Tue Dec 27 1994 10:313
    WhoEVER up & fired John Kricfalusi is an idiot & should be burned at
    the stake.
    
215.13PNTAGN::WARRENFELTZRTue Dec 27 1994 10:324
    rr
    bugs
    t&j
    daffy
215.14GAVEL::JANDROWRaquelfTue Dec 27 1994 12:5113
    
    
    looney toons (bugs and company)
    tom & jerry 
    rocky and bullwinkle
    josie and the pussycats
    winnie the pooh
    jetsons
    flintstones
    the littles (i hate to admit it, but i loved to watch them while i was
     in college...)
    
    
215.15POWDML::BUCKLEYWelcome to Paradise!Tue Dec 27 1994 13:3012
    I concur wit ha few back -- Bugs is King!!! (and don't get me started,
    I can recite many complete Bugs episodes verbatim!)
    
    other toons worthy of my time and interest:
    
    (general lonney toons)
    flintsones
    rocky & bullwinkle
    speed racer
    jetsons
    kimba (TLK is such a suck ripoff of this original concept!!!)
    *original* beavis & butthead (must emphasize pre-MTV episodes!)
215.16not to mention SuperChickenCLYDE::KOWALEWICZ_MLong boats/Tall shipsTue Dec 27 1994 14:484
    - Klyde Krashcup

    - George of the Jungle
215.17HAAG::HAAGTue Dec 27 1994 16:106
Note 215.8 by MKOTS3::LABORE_M 
    
    >>Dont forget  Kimba, Speedracer.
    
    what the hell are these? never heard of them. sounds like a combination
    ex-playboy bunny and a character in one of crash test dummies songs.
215.18I'll save you Nell.....DECLNE::REESEToreDown,I'mAlmostLevelW/theGroundTue Dec 27 1994 16:174
    Natasha and Boris Badenov
    Dudley Dooright
    
    
215.19Looney Tunes are Classics!BSS::DEASONYearning to EarnTue Dec 27 1994 16:184
    Foghorn Leghorn is King!!!!
    Also, The Simpsons before they got a conscience.
    
    -M-
215.20Do-right!!DECLNE::REESEToreDown,I'mAlmostLevelW/theGroundTue Dec 27 1994 16:182
    Ooops
    	
215.21SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, SDSC West, Palo AltoTue Dec 27 1994 16:2117
    Kimba the white Lion and Speed Racer are two japanese cartoons from the
    late 60's early 70s; at least, that's when they were imported here. 
    Speed drove the Mach 5, an amazing race car built and maintained by his
    father, with great gadgets.  Kimba is considered by many, many japanese
    artists to have been an obvious source of inspiration for Walt Disney's
    The Lion King, though Disney denies it; the published comparisons I've
    seen do call out some amazing similarities and I think Disney should
    dig itself out of a hole bigger than Intel's and credit the creator of
    Kimba quickly; there's a backlash already underway in Japan from their 
    graceless current reaction against the comparison, which is in the form
    of a letter signed by thousands of Japanese artists.
    
    I'm enjoying some of the new Nickelodeon features; Rug Rats is
    particularly great.  and a few years ago the Stunt Dogs were a
    sly bit of fun, too.
    
    DougO
215.22Memories of TV at my Aunts house ...BRITE::FYFENever tell a dragon your real name.Tue Dec 27 1994 16:222
Astro-Boy, Kimba, and Speed Racer - all favorites when I was wee young ladd ...
215.23motor mouse and autocatCSSREG::BROWNKB1MZ FN42Tue Dec 27 1994 16:3513
    yeah, the earler R & S wer ethe best, just like the earlier Simpsons...
    
    The "Royal Kilted Canadian Yaksmen" and "Cousin Sven" (with the don't 
    whizz on the electric fence) are classics.
    
    Classic Homer line: (after swearing off beer for too long) "I'd kill 
    everyone in this room for just one sweet beer..."
    
    I guess I'm just the wrong age to have really enjoyed Speed Racer, 
    Kimba, etc... My "speed racer" was Autocat and Motor Mouse". The
    scriptwriter for that one must have had a relative in Mayfield, KY, 
    because the expression "boy howdy" was a *very* local expression.
    
215.24CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue Dec 27 1994 16:383

 I'm the cat, I'M THE CAT
215.25NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Dec 27 1994 16:381
Egads!  Nobody's mentioned Roger Ramjet?!
215.26CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Dec 27 1994 16:457
    Clutch Cargo (and his dog paddlefoot)
    Johnny Quest (Hajee, Bandit, Race Bannon, and Dr. Quest)
    Cecil and Beanie (R-a-g-g-m-o-p-p RAGGMOPP!)
    Thunderbirds (Had all of their neat planes/subs/rockets etc.) 
    Scooby Doo
    
    Sigh, to be a kid again...
215.27CSC32::J_OPPELTPlucky kind of a kidTue Dec 27 1994 17:047
    	Baby Huey is making a comeback.
    
    	I don't know what channel my kids watch it on, but the show
    	now has classic ones interspersed with new ones.
    
    	The new ones aren't worthy to be shown on the same screen, in
    	my opinion.
215.28WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Dec 27 1994 17:055
    Anybody mention Mr. Peabody & Poindexter?
    
    Anyone remember Tom Terrific and Might Manfred the Wonderdog?
    
    Chip
215.29CSC32::J_OPPELTPlucky kind of a kidTue Dec 27 1994 17:071
    	Yes.
215.30CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Dec 27 1994 17:075
    RE: Mr Peabody and Poindexter.  
    
    Wasn't that Sherman?  Didn't they always ste into the Wayback machine?  
    
    
215.31WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Dec 27 1994 17:101
    -.1 Yup, sorry... Didju do the voice?  :-)
215.32HAAG::HAAGTue Dec 27 1994 17:189
    re .21
    
    thanks dougo. we didn't get tee vee in the house till '68 and then only
    picked up one station from dickinson ND. i remember coming home from
    the hospital (snowmobile accident) and seeing our very first tee vee.
    black and white of course. on the tube was LBJ saying he wouldn't run
    again. i remember thinking of him as an arrogant crooked bastard even
    then. my dad and uncle were there cheering his announcement. they also
    cheered when tricky dick resigned.
215.33NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Dec 27 1994 17:322
Sherman was Mr. Peabody's pet boy.  I suppose these days there'd be suspicion
of sexual abuse.
215.34Then there was Fritz the Cat 8^)CLYDE::KOWALEWICZ_MLong boats/Tall shipsTue Dec 27 1994 18:104
  Poindexter was from Felix the Cat.

kb
215.35SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, SDSC West, Palo AltoTue Dec 27 1994 18:1753
    "Jungle Tatei" is the approximate name in English for the Japanese
    production which was referred to earlier by the name it was marketed
    under in the US decades ago as "Kimba the White Lion".  This article
    was written for an online news service in Japan.  The following note
    will contain the text of the latter sent to Disney.
    
    DougO
    -----
    Do you know about copyrights?

    Machiko Satonaka (cartoonist)


    Watching the ad scenes from "The Lion King" on TV while the film was
    under production, I felt that it resembled "Jungle Taitei" somewhat.
    However, I  believed that there was no way that a production no less
    than Disney would do such a thing.  The reason is that I have learned
    much from Disney Productions concerning protection  of copyrights.

    So I was quite shocked to see the finished "Lion King"

    The animated version of "Jungle Taitei" was aired in America in the
    late '60s.  The Title at that time was, "Kimba the white lion".
    Japanese are familiar with the name of  the hero as "Leo", but in
    America it is "Kimba" The name of the hero in "The Lion King" is 
    "Simba"

    The coloring scheme for the lion who plays the enemy role is the same,
    as well.  Working under that lion is a hyena. a bird is the speaker.
    Not only that, the setting is  not in the savanna where lions generally
    live, but in a rocky area, and the carnivorous  characters get their
    animal protein from eating bugs..... Can all of this be coincidence?

    Tedzuka Productions released a comment concerning this issue, saying
    that "The  story is different, so we cannot say that it is plagiarism".
    This is typical Japanese  modesty and a virtue. However, on the other
    hand, Disney's comments that "We have never seen 'Jungle Taitei' nor
    have we been influenced by it", or "There are always people  who get
    upset over these sort of things," caused me to doubt their integrity.

    I am only one fan, and one Japanese who is proud of Japanese cartoons.
    I do not  want to go beyond what Tedzuka Production is doing and
    register an official complaint. I  wanted to send a message to Disney,
    that at the least a comment stating "With respect  to Osamu Tedzuka's
    'Jungle Taitei'" would have been appreciated.When I sent a letter and
    signatures to Buena Vista International's Vice President Hillary Clark
    on August  20, I had 489 signatures. The number of signatures has since
    increased, and on September  22nd was at 1126 signatures. This is a
    small movement, but the appeal is from the  heart.

(9/22/94)

      Machiko Satonaka, Cartoonist, born in Osaka, 1948
215.36letter to Disney studiosSX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, SDSC West, Palo AltoTue Dec 27 1994 18:1864
    An open letter from Machiko Satonaka



    Dear Sirs,

    The attached list of signees are only a fraction of the people you have
    offended  with your recent production that mirrors Osamu Tezuka's 40
    year old "Jungle Emperor" comic book and the 1966 "Kimba the White
    Lion" American TV animated stories. In fact ,  the doubts about the
    close similarities between the works began within the American cartoon
    community.

    To Japanese Mr.Tezuka's works are a national legacy. Therefore, the
    respect and admiration we Japanese felt for Disney Co. is severely
    diminished. It is not  possible to explain the damage inflicted upon
    our love of this aspect of Japanese culture. 

    All Japanese admired Walt Disney. I personally thank him for teaching
    me how  writers should keep and protect their own rights and
    copyrights. Therefore, it is very disappointing to feel doubt about
    your "Lion King" movie as it is presented  today.

    As I said in my interview with Asahi News, Tokyo News, Tokyo News,
    Nikkan Gendai and Mainichi Japanese newspapers, I think the works are
    so similar, it cannot be co-incidental. The International Herald
    Tribune reported this fact along with  the San Francisco Chronicle,
    Nikkan Sports, Weekly Asahi and the Sankei News.

    The basic story of a Prince cast out to return as the hero King after
    his father  is killed, is only the beginning of a long list parallels.
    There is the eye-scarred, black  maned villainous Uncle backed by
    hyenas, the chattering bird friend, the wise baboon,  the promotional
    shot of the jutting rock, the father lion in the clouds talking to  his
    son, the stony wilderness habitat, insect eating carnivores,even the
    names Kimba and  Simba are strikingly similar. I don't need to go on.

    No one is claiming the stories are identical.

    However,when my observations first reached Disney I was told abruptly,
    "Disney  has never heard of 'Jungle Emperor' or 'Kimba, the White Lion'".

    As I said on my interview with CNN, it is with sadness and regret that
    we are  forced to write this letter. I feel that Mr.Tezuka's works
    should live as property of the  Japanese people. It is not fair to
    dishonour the value, repsect and importance that the  "Jungle Emperor"
    has for them.

    I also believe that Tezuka Productions' conciliatory stance is a
    typical  Japanese response:avoid an embarrassing confrontation at any
    cost.

    At least a sub-title to pay homage to Osamu Tezuka or a few lines
    paying respect  to the origin of the story should be included. If these
    lines were to appear at the  beginning of the movie then surely both
    Walt Disney and Osamu Tezuka would feel satisfaction. 

    Yours Truly,

    Machiko Satonaka.



      Machiko Satonaka, Cartoonist, born in Osaka, 1948
215.37CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Dec 27 1994 19:034
    Tudor the Turtle - Help me Mr. Wizard!  
    
    
    Drizzle drazzle dreezle drone, time for this one to come home!
215.38CSC32::J_OPPELTPlucky kind of a kidTue Dec 27 1994 19:112
    	Who was that amoeba-like guy that Captain Cangaroo had on?  I
    	think he lived in a blackboard...
215.39GAVEL::JANDROWRaquelfTue Dec 27 1994 19:507
    
    
    then there was tenessee tuxedo and the walrus (i believe they were on
    the r&b show....)
    deputy dawg
    chilly willy
    
215.40JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Dec 27 1994 19:561
    Tom TeeeeeeeeRIFIC! :-)
215.41CSC32::J_OPPELTPlucky kind of a kidTue Dec 27 1994 19:581
    	I miss the Mr. MaGoo Christmas special.  haven't seen it in years.
215.42HAAG::HAAGTue Dec 27 1994 20:012
    when i first saw the movie i thought the opening of "who framed rager
    rabbit" was the best cartoon ever made. great knee slapping stuff.
215.43TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Wed Dec 28 1994 00:5010
    
    Does `ReBoot' count (being computer-animated)?
    
    If so, it's my new 2nd fave (after `The Simpsons').
    
    I know the show is kinda goofy, but I have this weird 
    attraction to Dot Matrix.  :^)
    
    jc
    
215.44POLAR::RICHARDSONWed Dec 28 1994 02:477
    I'm a bugs nut. I hate watching the butchered episodes they show on
    T.V. now. It drives me crazy!

    I love Ren and Stimpy. It got banned in Canada though. 8-(
    The producers are Canadian don't you know.  8^)

    Glenn
215.45JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Dec 28 1994 02:492
    Shood be banned here...
    
215.46POLAR::RICHARDSONWed Dec 28 1994 03:273
    Nancy, loosen your corset will ya?
    
    ;-)
215.47:-)JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Dec 28 1994 04:121
    Sorry I like my corset nice and tight!
215.48LJSRV2::KALIKOWSERVE&lt;a href=&quot;SURF_GLOBAL&quot;&gt;LOCAL&lt;/a&gt;Wed Dec 28 1994 05:591
               so tight, you should check out her SHOULDERS!! :-)
215.49GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERyup, it's a watchamacallitWed Dec 28 1994 09:2612
    
    
    
    Raq,
    
    
    I think the walrus you are referring to is the one and only Chumley.
    
    
    
    
    Mike
215.50GAVEL::JANDROWRaquelfWed Dec 28 1994 11:035
    
    
    yep!!!  that's him... mercy buqets, dear.. :>
    
    
215.51CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantWed Dec 28 1994 11:533
    Tom Slick
    
    
215.52PAKORA::SNEILJ.A.F.OWed Dec 28 1994 12:0617
    
    Now.
       Simpsons.

    In years gone by.

        Battle of the planets.
        Tom n Jerry
        The loony tunes
        Wacky races(who ever did win that thing)
        Catch the pigeon
     
    
    
     SCott
    
    
215.53Old Print CartoonsODIXIE::ZOGRANTestudo is still grounded!Wed Dec 28 1994 12:2010
    Print 'toon faves - 
    
    Cheech Wizard
    Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers ("---- will get you throuh times of no
    money better than money will get you through times of no ----".)
    Fritz the Cat (mentioned earlier)
    Far Side
    Outland
    
    Dan 
215.54JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Dec 28 1994 15:073
    .48
    
    Yup my shoulders are so soft I wear my bra straight up! :-)
215.55POLAR::RICHARDSONWed Dec 28 1994 15:111
    This troubles me.
215.56WMOIS::FAFELLife is short. Play Dead.Wed Dec 28 1994 15:195
    The Simpsons and Ren and Stimpy. 
    
    
    
    Dave
215.57HAAG::HAAGWed Dec 28 1994 16:038
Note 215.44 by POLAR::RICHARDSON
    
    >I love Ren and Stimpy. It got banned in Canada though. 8-(
    >The producers are Canadian don't you know.  8^)

    you cannucks are big on telling us how you support government control
    over your lives and also support banning of many things "for the
    betterment of society". so why did this get banned?
215.588^)POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of EcstacyWed Dec 28 1994 16:155
    
    .54
    
    Bra talk!!  Definite prancing & teasing material.
              
215.59POLAR::RICHARDSONWed Dec 28 1994 16:161
    They made fun of the RCMP and got on someone's bad list.
215.60NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Dec 28 1994 16:331
Did the Canadians ban Dudley Doright?
215.61WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Dec 28 1994 16:382
    yup, councilor Snydley Whiplash excommunicated him from the great
    white north - The Hoser!
215.62JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Dec 28 1994 16:404
    I tol' ya already Deb... Dr. Dan pranced...and I nevah, I say nevah 
    
    
    tease!
215.63TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Wed Dec 28 1994 16:5912
    
    .57, Gene:
    
    `Ren and Stimpy' did not get banned.  At least, not by the gov't.
    Most TV stations elected not to broadcast the show, though it *was* 
    available on MuchMusic (our equivalent of MTV).
    
    Of course, if you want to get into a debate on the issue of 
    *corporate* censorship (a la `Lou Grant'... :^)
    
    jc
    
215.64CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanWed Dec 28 1994 17:018

 They could ban MTV and it wouldn't bother me a bit..





215.65POLAR::RICHARDSONWed Dec 28 1994 17:034
    You're wrong. The CRTC banned it and MuchMusic had to stop showing
    episodes. They had a marathon on the very last day.
    
    Glenn
215.66MPGS::MARKEYAIBOHPHOBIA: Fear of PalindromesWed Dec 28 1994 17:4212
    Most definitely the Warner Bros cartoons, particularly Bugs. Anything
    with Marvin Martian it it. Many classic Daffy cartoons too...
    
    The new Animaniacs are quite funny. Definitely a lot of adult humor.
    
    And... I rented "Maverick" last night, and there was a promo for a
    *brand new* Chuck Jones cartoon that will be shown with Richie Rich.
    I'll rent that for sure, but pop it out of the VCR before I have
    to watch that sickening little slimebag McDonalds Caulking Compound
    or whatever the %$**! his name is...
    
    -b
215.67MPGS::MARKEYAIBOHPHOBIA: Fear of PalindromesWed Dec 28 1994 17:459
    Oh, and I must never forget...
    
    Rocky and Bullwinkle
    and Mr. Magoo... (who used to mumble some extremely rude and
                      suggestive remarks... this was revealed using
                      a science known as "forensic audiology"...
                      I kid you not...)
    
    -b
215.68CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantWed Dec 28 1994 17:473
    <----- Ditto Popeye.  
    
    
215.69TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Wed Dec 28 1994 17:539
    
    .65, Glenn:
    
    They did?  I musta been sleeping off a hangover that day. 
    Okay, Glenn, then *you* get to answer Gene's question. And 
    don't forget to mention `Lou Grant'!  :^)
    
    jc
    
215.70POLAR::RICHARDSONWed Dec 28 1994 17:585
    Well, what the CRTC said is that the show wasn't fit for kids to watch,
    so they banned it from broadcast. You can get the videos if you want
    though.
    
    Glenn
215.71JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Dec 28 1994 18:163
    It's not fit for kids to watch!  I agree.
    
    
215.72POLAR::RICHARDSONWed Dec 28 1994 18:183
    The corset is back isn't it?
    
    8-)
215.73JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Dec 28 1994 18:203
    Uh huh uh huh
    
    :-)
215.74MPGS::MARKEYAIBOHPHOBIA: Fear of PalindromesWed Dec 28 1994 18:245
    One more... I like Beevis and Butthead, even the Mtv version. The fact
    that such political incorrectness can thrive on a Network dominated by
    pinko banality only makes it sweeter.
    
    -b
215.75.62 vile calumny!!LJSRV2::KALIKOWNotes, NEWS: old; GroupWeb: NEW!Wed Dec 28 1994 19:421
                                    Didn't.
215.76JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Dec 28 1994 19:484
    vile calumny, vile calumny = sorta rolls off yer tongue, eh?
    
    
    Now to check the dictionary!
215.77HAAG::HAAGWed Dec 28 1994 19:5810
Note 215.70 by POLAR::RICHARDSON 
    
    >Well, what the CRTC said is that the show wasn't fit for kids to watch,
    >so they banned it from broadcast. You can get the videos if you want
    >though.
    
    that's just an excuse hiding their real intentions. but then you folks
    up their don't care about real intentions. just ban everything. a very
    valid argument could be made the MOST of the garbage on tee vee these
    days is not fit for kids to watch.
215.78POLAR::RICHARDSONWed Dec 28 1994 20:158
    Well, if it means anything to you, I disagreed with this decision, but
    all of the parental groups consulted applauded the move. No Gene, I'd
    rather be an ignorant Cossack type buzzard than really be an informed
    citizen. 8-)

    Guess I'm a sick parent.

    Glenn
215.79SALEM::DODAGo Speed Racer, GO!Wed Dec 28 1994 20:204
Scooby Doo
Speed Racer
2 Stupid Dogs
Bugs
215.80SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowWed Dec 28 1994 23:069
    Warner Brothers 'toons rule.  Classic stuff.
    
    In the current generation, I get a kick out of most of Nickelodeon's
    stuff, especially "Rocko's Modern Life."  (In the live-action area,
    "The Adventures of Pete and Pete" is a hoot.)  "Animaniacs" and
    "Darkwing Duck" are also good.
    
    joanne
    
215.81POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of EcstacyThu Dec 29 1994 11:255
    
    I used to like Scooby Doo until they added that stupid little talking
    fleabag Scrappy Doo.
    
    I won't watch it now, out of principle and all.
215.82HBFDT2::SCHARNBERGSenior KodierwurstThu Dec 29 1994 14:048
    
    Asterix
    
    Tim & Struppi   (Rintintin or something in the OV)
    
    Peanuts
    
    
215.83CSC32::J_OPPELTPlucky kind of a kidThu Dec 29 1994 15:132
    	Is Darkwing Duck a Disney production?  I've really only seen
    	pieces of it in passing, so I'm really not familiar with it...
215.84NETRIX::thomasThe Code WarriorThu Dec 29 1994 16:041
DW is a Disney production.
215.85NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Dec 29 1994 16:132
According to the back of a recent box of Kellogg's Corn Flakes, Darkwing Duck
is "part of the Disney Afternoon."
215.86POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of EcstacyThu Dec 29 1994 16:223
    
    The only duck I'm interesting in spending quality time with is the
    Peking Duck at the Yangtze River in Littleton.
215.87POBOX::BATTISWhen in doubt, foul a freshmanThu Dec 29 1994 18:326
    
    Johnny Quest
    Warner Bros "tunes
    Huckleberry Hound
    Quick Draw McGraw
    Space Ghost
215.88TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Thu Dec 29 1994 18:343
    
    The Itchy & Scratchy Show!
    
215.89The HERCULOIDSUHUH::MARISONScott MarisonThu Dec 29 1994 19:4517
    Space Ghost
    ^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh man oh man...I loved that show... didn't Space Ghost also just recently
have a talk show???

I also liked some other cartoon, about a family (kinda prehistoric, but they
were very powerfull) who had some various monster friends... I think one was
a bird who'd fly the family members about... the cartoon was done by the same
people as space ghost, and it was called.... Dang! "The H????????" I think
it starts with a H...

Ah! I got it!  

			The Herculoids

/Scott
215.90POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 29 1994 19:481
    I liked the Fantastic Four.
215.91NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Dec 29 1994 19:511
I thought you *were* the Fantastic Four.
215.92POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 29 1994 19:558
    No I'm not, but we'll take that as a compliment.  8^)
   
    Glenn/Deirdre/Pamela/Franny/Ned/Dierdre/Anton/Sean/Alice/Jimi/Pauline/Rex/
    Nathan/Melanie/Ursula
    
    
    
    
215.93NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Dec 29 1994 19:561
My mistake.  You're the Fantastic Fifteen.
215.94UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonThu Dec 29 1994 20:0313
>    I liked the Fantastic Four.

Please tell me you mean the one with Tourch... please please please...

I HATED the one with that stupid robot! I want Tourch!!!

Another goot cartoon was the Star Trek one...

Or how about Clutch Cargo???  ;-) that's a good one for laughs...
remember the human lips with very red lipstick superimposed onto a still
animated head!!! great stuff!

/scott
215.95POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 29 1994 20:121
    Yes, the one with torch.
215.96POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of EcstacyThu Dec 29 1994 20:122
    
    Not tourch?
215.97POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 29 1994 20:161
    No. It was an american cartoon.
215.98JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Dec 29 1994 21:461
    OH
215.99JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Dec 29 1994 21:471
    OH
215.100SNARFFfff :-)JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Dec 29 1994 21:473
    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssssssssss
    
    4 of 'em today!!
215.101LJSRV2::KALIKOWNotes, NEWS: old; GroupWeb: NEW!Thu Dec 29 1994 23:411
        Watch it Nance, ze Doctah taketh a dim view of snarfitude... :-)
215.102TROOA::COLLINSNothing wrong $100 wouldn't fix.Thu Dec 29 1994 23:498
    
    Sorry, Nancy, but two nonsense notes to set up the snarf is cheating.
    
    Snarf doesn't count.  :^)
    
    
    jc (a recovering snarfaholic)
    
215.103:-)JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Dec 30 1994 04:022
    pppffffffffffffT
    
215.104LJSRV2::KALIKOWNotes, NEWS: old; GroupWeb: NEW!Fri Dec 30 1994 04:471
    
215.105LJSRV2::KALIKOWNotes, NEWS: old; GroupWeb: NEW!Fri Dec 30 1994 04:481
    
215.106Psst, Nancy...LJSRV2::KALIKOWNotes, NEWS: old; GroupWeb: NEW!Fri Dec 30 1994 04:491
    He's right -- you been caught redhanded.  Turn in yer SnarfLicense! :-)
215.107BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Tue Jan 03 1995 12:478


	My favorite one was when Beavis went to Heaven and saw St. Peter. That
was a classic!


Glen
215.108SUBPAC::SADINKeep it off my wave...Tue Jan 03 1995 13:316
    
    
    	I like Beevis and Butthead's version of "The people court" where
    they sentence the praying mantice to death by chainsaw....:)
    
    
215.109CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Jan 03 1995 13:424
    mantiS
    
    
    Brian
215.110SUBPAC::SADINcaught in the 'netTue Jan 03 1995 15:075
    
    
    	tanx....:)
    
    
215.111Ah Hate that Rabbit...SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdTue Jan 03 1995 17:451
    
215.112Yes I watch cartoonsREFINE::KOMARPatsies no longer. Go Pats!Wed Jan 04 1995 00:193
    The X-men rule!
    
    ME
215.113TC!GIDDAY::BURTA field of golden dandelionsWed Jan 04 1995 00:355
Top Cat

(and all the wonderful Japanese ones, Kimba, Astroboy, Marine Boy, Gigantor etc)

Chele
215.114GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERyup, it's a watchamacallitWed Jan 04 1995 09:267
    
    
    Gigantor.......is that the one where the kid has the power (remote
    control) of a large robot that resides in an airplane hanger?
    
    
    
215.115GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampWed Jan 04 1995 11:195
    
    
    oh yes...top cat...that can be added to my list, too...
    
    
215.116CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanWed Jan 04 1995 11:593

 Quickdraw Mcgraw
215.117CSOA1::LEECHannuit coeptis novus ordo seclorumWed Jan 04 1995 12:212
    The Tick.
    
215.118MAIL1::CRANEWed Jan 04 1995 12:241
    Ren & Stimpy
215.119GMT1::TEEKEMATip toeing through the Tulips......Wed Jan 04 1995 12:592
	Betty Boop...............America's favorite girl.....
215.120BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Wed Jan 04 1995 13:464

	The Tick is one of the best cartoon spoofs out there! But the X-Men do
rule!
215.121CSOA1::LEECHannuit coeptis novus ordo seclorumWed Jan 04 1995 14:271
    Yes, but the X-Men are all reruns...at least in these parts.
215.122SHIBA::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Wed Jan 04 1995 14:526



	They are all re-runs now. In a couple of weeks they will start with new
stories again.
215.123PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingWed Jan 04 1995 15:264
    
    Droopy.
    
    Mark.
215.124AIMHI::JMARTINBarney IS NOT a nerd!!Wed Jan 04 1995 15:305
    Speed, Pops, Chim chim, Spritle, Trixie, Sparky, Racer X (Rex Racer),
    
    The Molage, The Mach 5, etc.
    
    -Jack
215.125oh, and jack, where's your NEW p_n??????GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampWed Jan 04 1995 16:0410
    
    >    Droopy.
    
    >    Mark.
    
    
    sorry to hear that.... :>:> :>:> :>:>
    
    
    
215.126PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingWed Jan 04 1995 16:286
    Droopy, the cartoon character, you dolt.  Used to be shown between
    episodes of "Tom and Jerry".  Hilarious sound affects.
    
    Mark.
    
    
215.127POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of EcstacyWed Jan 04 1995 16:3216
    I just thought I'd repost this for posterity in case Meaty realizes he 
    forgot to change his pname at 00:00:01 1/1/95 and does some quick
    backpedaling 8^).
    
           <<< BACK40::BACK40$DKA500:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SOAPBOX.NOTE;1 >>>
                          -< Soapbox.  Just Soapbox. >-
================================================================================
Note 215.124                   Favorite Cartoons?                     124 of 126
AIMHI::JMARTIN "Barney IS NOT a nerd!!"               5 lines   4-JAN-1995 12:30
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Speed, Pops, Chim chim, Spritle, Trixie, Sparky, Racer X (Rex Racer),
    
    The Molage, The Mach 5, etc.
    
    -Jack
                
215.128NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jan 04 1995 16:561
Flip the Frog.
215.129GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampWed Jan 04 1995 17:346
    
    
    oh...so now i am a dolt...
    
    
    thank you
215.130PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsWed Jan 04 1995 17:403
	yeah, he's a real charmer, raq.

215.131SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdWed Jan 04 1995 17:547
    
    
    Isn't that supposed to be "doltski"????
    
    
    :) :) :) :)
    
215.132GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampWed Jan 04 1995 18:165
    
    
    heyheyhey!!!
    
    
215.133Yes dear??SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdWed Jan 04 1995 18:533
    
    You bellowed???
    
215.134GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampWed Jan 04 1995 19:027
    
    uh-hem...i don't bellow...
    
    thankyouverymuch
    
    
    
215.135Yes dear....SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdWed Jan 04 1995 19:071
    
215.136BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Wed Jan 04 1995 19:217
| <<< Note 215.124 by AIMHI::JMARTIN "Barney IS NOT a nerd!!" >>>

| Speed, Pops, Chim chim, Spritle, Trixie, Sparky, Racer X (Rex Racer),
| The Molage, The Mach 5, etc.


	Jack, when I fist read these, I thought you were dropping hits of acid!
215.137BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Wed Jan 04 1995 19:214


	Tippy the Turtle
215.138CSOA1::LEECHannuit coeptis novus ordo seclorumThu Jan 05 1995 11:262
    Maybe Jack has had a change of heart regarding Barney?  That would
    explain why he didn't change his p_name Jan 1.
215.139AIMHI::JMARTINBarney:Card Holding Member of NAMBLAThu Jan 05 1995 12:444
    Nawww.... I was out on January 1,2, and 3!!!  As you can see, I still
    have a hardened heart!!!!!
    
    -Jack
215.140REFINE::KOMARMy congressman is a crookFri Jan 06 1995 12:003
    FYI, Barney is not a cartoon.
    
    ME
215.141Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMAnd monkeys might fly outa my butt!Sun Jan 08 1995 22:571
    Ren & Stimpy is coming back on over here. Gawd, I love this town.
215.142Hello-o-o-o-o-o-, NURSE!SWAM1::STERN_TOTom Stern -- Have TK, will travel!Tue Jan 17 1995 18:5410
    The Tex Avery MGM's:
    
    	Screwball Squirrel
    	Droopy Dog
    
    Willoughy Wren
    
    These days, the best has to be Animaniacs!
    
    
215.143The PointTROOA::TRP109::Chrisdiscovering plutonium by accidentThu Jan 26 1995 12:2512
Just recently bought the "Best of Harry Nilsson" CD (Everybody's Talkin, 
Sleep Late my Lady Friend, Coconut... lots of great stuff) and one of the 
songs he wrote was "Me and My Arrow" which reminded me of one of my all time 
favourite animated shows - "The Point".  Remember Ooblie (?) and his dog, 
Arrow..... "me and my Arrow, straighter than narrow..."  It was about a town 
where everybody had a pointed head, all the buildings had a point, his dog 
had pointy ears and a pointy nose but this poor little boy was an outcast 
because his head was round.  He tried to hide it with a big pointy hat, but 
it was no good, and so he took off.  I think he travelled to someplace 
called the "Pointless Forest".  Anyhow, he goes through a series of 
adventures and the story ends with victory - I won't give it away in case 
anybody missed it :*)
215.144MPGS::MARKEYInvestors in fine Belgian jewelryThu Jan 26 1995 15:379
    And give me Harry's original "I can't live if living is without you"
    over that horrible bleeting whine that passes for singing out of the
    mouth of a certain "singer" about whom the only nice thing her fans
    can ever think to say is "but she's good looking". WTF cares. And
    whoever did the instrumental arrangement should be shot. Absolutely
    NO sense of drama around that wonderful chorus. I miss Harry. Harry
    was a genius.
    
    -b
215.145GIDDAY::BURTLet us reason togetherFri Jan 27 1995 01:249
Oblio was the boy in "The Point"
"Think about your Troubles" was another great song.

I miss Harry too, and I'm another who fails to see why the no-talent did a 
cover of what was a perfectly wonderful song that didn't NEED to get a cover.
(IMNSHO)


Chele
215.146Cartoon ClassicsGIAMEM::HOVEYTue Jan 31 1995 15:4828
     List some old cartoons or Sat. morning shows that were your favorites,
     or least favorites:
    
    	Underdog
    	Top Cat
    	Banana Splits
        Speed Racer
        Magilla Gorilla
    	Ricochet Rabbit
    	Huckleberry Hound
    	Jetsons
    	Deputy Dawg
    	Snagglepuss
    	Bullwinkle
    	Felix The Cat
    	Mighty Mouse
    	Casper
    	Popeye
    	Yogi Bear (& Boo Boo)
    	Gumbie
    	Tom and Jerry
    	Tweetie Bird
    	Daffy Duck
    	Yosemidie (SP?) Sam
    	Elmer Fudd
    	Chipmunks
    
    	
215.147MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Jan 31 1995 17:114
>     List some old cartoons or Sat. morning shows that were your favorites,

When I was a kid, they didn't show cartoons on Saturday mornings.

215.148geezerWAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceWed Feb 01 1995 10:181
     When you were a kid, they had nothing to show cartoons on. ;-)
215.149MAIL2::CRANEWed Feb 01 1995 10:233
    There was always the radio if nothing else. A lot of the first T.V.
    shows we born from the radio, i.e. The Lone Ranger, The Shadow, The
    Green Hornet just for starters.
215.150MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Feb 01 1995 12:286
>                                  -< geezer >-

Au contraire, Doctah - I used to stare at this thing with a 10 inch diameter
(yes, round) screen.


215.151CSOA1::LEECHI'm the NRA.Wed Feb 01 1995 12:511
    Captain Caveman
215.152GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampWed Feb 01 1995 13:123
    
    
    <--- and the teen angels...
215.153PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingWed Feb 01 1995 16:412
    
    Davey and Goliath.
215.154WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Feb 01 1995 16:453
    is Davey & Goliath really a cartoon?
    
    Chip
215.155CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Wed Feb 01 1995 17:011
    	D&G are more like claymation than animation.
215.156HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Feb 01 1995 17:277
  Hey, anyone seen Dilbert this week?

  They are talking about us.

  Seems that the SOAPBOX plague has occurred on the Information Highway.

  George
215.157Some can some can'tTROOA::TEMPLETONSat Feb 04 1995 01:392
    Ban a cartoon? Has any-one tuned into the Canadian Air Farce Lately?
    How do they get away with it?
215.158Warner is bestTROOA::TEMPLETONSat Feb 04 1995 02:045
    I always liked the coyote and the the sheepdog, the dog always seems to
    be taking no notice of what the coyote was doing but was there at the
    right time, and of course it was usually a very violent ending.
    
    But I still like it.
215.159Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMAnd monkeys might fly outa my butt!Tue Feb 07 1995 21:185
    Hey I've just been reminded by seeing sumfing...
    
    
    Wannoo oops sorry I mean Wattoo Wattoo Superbird. Man, what a great
    cartoon that was.
215.160A new find for meXEDON::JENSENThu Jul 20 1995 02:564
    Two words:  "The Tick"
    
    Lotsa laffs.
    
215.161BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Jul 20 1995 14:033

	Yes, the Tick is a great one. Talk about a parody on super heros!!!
215.162LEADIN::REITHThu Jul 20 1995 15:1914
    
    
    Animaniacs has some great moments.

    One of my favorites is from "Pinky and the Brain"
    (Story of two mice [one a genius] trying to take over the world)
    
    (This has a lot of application to engineering.)
    
    Pinky make a suggestion on how to take over the world
    
    Brain:  "Good idea Pinky.  No wait!  What if we wanted to
    	    use a plan that would Work!"
    
215.163(Re-written to resemble the English language, somewhat)DECWIN::RALTOStay in bed, float upstreamThu Jul 20 1995 15:4316
    I've only seen a few Animaniacs cartoons, but I've been very
    impressed.  It's exactly what you'd have expected the old Warner
    Brothers cartoons to have become by the 1990's, if the previous
    thirty or so years of precious little and/or cheap output hadn't
    happened.
    
    Great writing (works for kids and adults), art (nice old-style
    backgrounds), music (it's got that old WB sound), and so on.
    I wish I had time to catch more of these.  A few of them are
    available on videocassette.
    
    I think this is one of those shows that goes mostly unnoticed
    while it's contemporary, and then twenty years later everyone
    "discovers" it, and it becomes a cult classic.
    
    Chris
215.164We're AnimaniacsssssLEADIN::REITHThu Jul 20 1995 15:5023
    
     >   I think this is one of those shows that goes mostly unnoticed
     >   while it's contemporary, and then twenty years later everyone
     >   "discovers" it, and it becomes a cult classic.
     
    I don't know.  It has that prime slot just before Power Rangers.
    I would predict a lot of kids watch it.  It should be on after the
    rangers, so adults could catch it too.
    
    "Wheel of morality
     Turn, turn, turn.
     Tell us the lesson
     We must learn."
    
    Good Idea - Bad Idea:
    
    Good idea - Reading this notes file.
    
    Bad idea  - Reading this notes file when you have something 
    		better to do.
    
    
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