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Conference back40::soapbox

Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
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Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUEONS
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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166.0. "weird science" by GAVEL::JANDROW (Au naturelle..back 2 basics) Fri Dec 09 1994 15:34

    
    if you could have any body (note:i said any body...not anybody) as your
    own, who would it be??  or would it be a combination of parts??
    
    
    
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166.1GMT1::TEEKEMATangerine Dream.Fri Dec 09 1994 15:352
	Why yours raq............Total perfection. %^)
166.2GAVEL::JANDROWAu naturelle..back 2 basicsFri Dec 09 1994 15:3610
    
    
    i would love to have:
    
    	my eyes and hair (well, i have these already...so my peepers are
   	 keepers...)
     	crystal bernard's body (plus about 5 inches of height, all
         proportionate, of course...)
    
    then, i'd be a happy woman...
166.3GAVEL::JANDROWAu naturelle..back 2 basicsFri Dec 09 1994 15:376
    
    
    teekma...i think you'd look pretty silly with a set of 40Ds...
    
    
    
166.4MPGS::MARKEYMy big stick is a BerettaFri Dec 09 1994 15:405
    I'd be happy to have just a little less body, tyvm... otherwise, even
    though I _hardly_ hit the cosmic lottery, I'll just work with what
    I got and see how far it takes me...
    
    -b
166.5GMT1::TEEKEMATangerine Dream.Fri Dec 09 1994 15:424
	RE .3

	Maybe I'd look silly, but I'd be happy......%^)
166.6Four years ago when I was roller-skating four times a week.COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Dec 09 1994 15:471
Yep.  Mine minus 30-40 pounds.
166.7SUBURB::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitFri Dec 09 1994 15:4912
    Reminds me of a Butthead and Beavis from a couple of nights ago
    
    "woooah! Look at those boobs".
    
    "Yeah! If I had boobs like that,i`d never leave the house"
    
    "yeah!yeah! Me too. Well,i`d leave the house to buy a mirror. Then
    I could look at my boobs all day".
    
    Er,anyway. Body wise,Bruce Lee would go down a treat. Plenty of
    perfectly contoured muscle. 
    
166.8Spits During OlympicsSTRATA::BARBIERIGod cares.Fri Dec 09 1994 16:127
      I'm not into the musclebound look, but I like good muscle
      tone.  I remember a lot of years ago, I friend of mine had
      a full size poster of Mark Spitz with something like 6 or 7
      Olympic gold medals on.  He was definitely in good shape.
      I'd give mine for that one!!!
    
                                               Tony
166.9GMT1::TEEKEMATangerine Dream.Fri Dec 09 1994 16:154
	Well, if I had to trade my already perfectly toned body,

	Arnold Schwarzenager might be a small step up for me....%^)
166.10MPGS::MARKEYMy big stick is a BerettaFri Dec 09 1994 16:163
    >Arnold Schwarzenager might be a small step up for me....%^)
    
    Hah! One _small step_ for man, one _giant leap_ for mankind...
166.11GMT1::TEEKEMATangerine Dream.Fri Dec 09 1994 16:206
>> Hah! One _small step_ for man, one _giant leap_ for mankind...

More like,  One _small step_ for man, one _giant leap_ for womankind...


	%^) %^)		<<----notice the smiles....
166.12I can have any parts? Wow!TNPUBS::JONGSteveFri Dec 09 1994 16:5410
    If I could have anyone's body parts...  Off the wall, but it is Friday 
    and it *is* Raq...  Hmmm...  I would want
    Arnold's shoulders...
    Michael Bolton's hair...
    Mel Gibson's butt...
    Warren Beatty's fingertips...
    Michael Jordan's tongue...
    Randy Spears's... er... spear...
    Ross Perot's ears...
    And with the ransom I'd retire a happy man 8^)
166.13Okay, I was joking -- all I want for Christmas isTNPUBS::JONGSteveFri Dec 09 1994 16:563
    Seriously, I'd take Michael Jordan's legs, which would add a couple of
    inches and let me dominate the volleyball courts.  I'd wear long pants
    and no one would be the wiser.  That's all I want.
166.14POLAR::RICHARDSONFri Dec 09 1994 18:063
    GRAB MY HAND!

    HOLD ONTO IT!
166.15MINOTS::CAIAZZIFri Dec 09 1994 18:544
    
    This isn't a variant of 'pull my finger...', is it?
    
    
166.16GAVEL::JANDROWAu naturelle..back 2 basicsFri Dec 09 1994 19:405
    
    
    steve...you'd look pretty silly with michael bolton's hair... :> ;> :>
    
    
166.17POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionFri Dec 09 1994 19:422
    
    WHAT hair?  The man's half bald.
166.18MPGS::MARKEYMy big stick is a BerettaFri Dec 09 1994 19:431
    The other half, I would guess... :-)
166.19POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionFri Dec 09 1994 19:452
    
    And the other half is thin and frizzy.
166.20POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionFri Dec 09 1994 19:452
    
    Oh dear, that's not very valdiff of me, is it?
166.21POLAR::RICHARDSONFri Dec 09 1994 19:461
    GRAB MY HAND!
166.22POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionFri Dec 09 1994 19:473
    
    Ooh, I'm holding hands with Glenn 8^).
    
166.23POLAR::RICHARDSONFri Dec 09 1994 19:481
    HOLD ONTO IT!
166.24This doesn't trouble him...SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdFri Dec 09 1994 19:521
    
166.25GAVEL::JANDROWAu naturelle..back 2 basicsFri Dec 09 1994 19:525
    
    
    deb, i told you....that's NOT his hand!!!
    
    
166.26oh dear 8^oPOWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionFri Dec 09 1994 19:531
    
166.27COMICS::FISCHERI've got a rainbow in my pocketMon Dec 12 1994 12:061
Michael Bolton looks pretty silly with Michael Bolton's hair
166.28RDGE44::ALEUC8Mon Dec 12 1994 14:548
    i'm pretty ok with mine
    
    except i'd like a new right knee, right shoulder and right tricep all
    showing signs of wear and tear and not likely to get better
    
    sigh
    
    isn't aging a vicious thing
166.29MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Dec 12 1994 16:004
All these people wanting body parts from someone else. . . .

Dahmer's spirit lives on . . . 

166.30POLAR::RICHARDSONMon Dec 12 1994 16:082
    Was he trying to be a cut above the rest, or was he just looking for
    severance pay?
166.31POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionMon Dec 12 1994 16:155
    
    I don't want any specific body; I'd just like one that looks better
    with clothes on.  I mean, you spend most of your life clothed; it's
    pretty useless to look better nekkid than clad unless you're a stripper
    or something.
166.32WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Dec 12 1994 17:121
    <- Ohhh, I dunno 'bout that... :-)
166.33Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMMon Dec 12 1994 21:193
    re .31
    
    Don't stop now that was just getting interesting.
166.34POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionMon Dec 12 1994 21:262
    
    Shut yer noise, you 8^).
166.35Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMMon Dec 12 1994 21:331
    ok - tee hee
166.36Keep it simpleDECLNE::REESEToreDown,I'mAlmostLevelW/theGroundTue Dec 13 1994 22:044
    I think it would just be easier if I could send my body out to
    One Hour Martinizing :-)
    
    
166.37MPGS::MARKEYAIBOHPHOBIA: Fear of PalindromesTue Dec 13 1994 22:113
    I think it would take me at least three Martinis...
    
    -b
166.38Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMWed Dec 14 1994 21:293
    re .36
    
    exsqueeze me !!!!!
166.39MARKO::MCKENZIEWed Oct 25 1995 11:11105
Of mice and men: Researchers grow human ear on mouse


(c) 1995 Copyright The News and Observer Publishing Co.
(c) 1995 Associated Press

BOSTON (Oct 25, 1995 - 02:36 EDT) -- It sounds like
something from a carnival side show: "The Mouse With A
Human Ear On Its Back." But it's real. It's alive.

That mouse, and others of its kind, are at the leading edge of a
science known as tissue engineering, which allows laboratories
to grow skin and cartilage for transplant in humans.

The mouse in question, in the laboratory of University of
Massachusetts anesthesiologist Dr. Charles Vacanti, is
helping researchers refine the technology that someday will
allow them to regrow ears and noses for people.

Linda Griffith-Cima, an assistant professor of chemical
engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology who
helped Vacanti grow the first ears on mice, said she did it at
the request of a plastic surgeon from Children's Hospital, Dr.
Joe Upton.

"He said, 'I see these kids who are born without ears. And I
have boys who come in whose ears have been chewed off in
playground fights, and I can't sew them back on because
they're so chewed up,"' Griffith-Cima said.

So she set about creating an ear-like scaffolding of porous,
biodegradable polyester fabric. Then she and Vacanti
distributed human cartilage cells throughout the form, and
implanted the prototype ear on the back of a hairless mouse.

The mouse, specially bred to lack an immune system that might
reject the human tissue, nourished the ear as the cartilage cells
grew to replace the fiber. The mouse remains healthy and alive
after the ear is removed, the researchers said.

"You end up with a piece of cartilage in the shape of an ear,"
Griffith-Cima said.

Griffith-Cima's and Vacanti's research follows in the
footsteps of Vacanti's older brother, Dr. Joseph Vacanti, a
surgeon who does liver transplants at Children's Hospital, and
his close friend Dr. Robert Langer, professor of chemical
engineering at MIT.

Twelve years ago, when Joseph Vacanti became head of the
hospital's transplant program, he started searching for ways to
grow new liver tissue in sick children instead of waiting for
donor organs. Too many of his patients died before they could
get transplants.

Now Joseph Vacanti can implant a polymer scaffolding in a
diseased rat's liver and transplant new liver cells. The new
liver will grow and function for up to six weeks, he said.

Langer, the Vicantis and other scientists now have managed to
grow liver, skin, cartilage, bone, ureters, heart valves, tendons,
intestines, blood vessels, and breast tissue on such polymers,
Langer said.

Although no such tissue products have yet become available to
the public, skin products are in the advanced stages of clinical
testing on humans, and heart valves are in the early phase of
clinical trials.

Someday, ears and noses will be grown in a test tube using the
patient's own cells on a custom-designed scaffold. Other
tissues will be grown from donated cells on polymer devices
placed in the patient's body.

"Some tissues, like cartilage, we can grow all the way to
perfect tissue before putting it in," Joseph Vacanti said. "In
other tissues, we only grow it for a short time, then we implant
it and the body takes over."

Dr. Michael Miller, an associate professor of plastic surgery at
the University of Texas' Anderson Cancer Center, said the
technology is promising.

"In fact, I think the next major advances to come in the field of
reconstructive surgery are going to be due to tissue
engineering," said Miller, who is working with Rice University
scientists trying to grow bone tissues in shapes that are useful
for plastic surgery.

The chemical engineers say their job now is to create better
polymers. It's one thing to grow cartilage that holds a shape for
cosmetic surgery, another to grow cartilage that could mend a
shattered knee, Griffith-Cima said.

Dr. Peter Theran, director of laboratory animal welfare for the
Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to
Animals, said he had not reviewed the Vacantis' research, but
was not opposed to it.

"Generally speaking, we support the use of tissue culture work
because often it means using fewer live animals" than other
procedures, such as transplanting animal organs into humans.



166.40BIGQ::SILVADiabloWed Oct 25 1995 12:171
can penis enlargements be far behind?
166.41POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerWed Oct 25 1995 12:292
    Well, I wouldn't want one there myself. More towards the front would be
    preferable, but to each his own I guess.
166.42CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenWed Oct 25 1995 12:312
    Gee Glenn, you could be something out of Doctor Doolittle.  Sort of the
    soapbox equivalent of the pushme/pullyou, sort of, but not exaclty.  
166.43GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedWed Oct 25 1995 12:352
    
    Sounds eerie to me.......
166.44POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerWed Oct 25 1995 12:373
    Well, I can see this type of thing replacing tatoos etc. Ears on your
    legs, several extra penises scatterred around the body, belly noses.
    You watch, they'll do it.
166.45And nothing can replace tongue piercing, misterXEDON::JENSENWed Oct 25 1995 12:402
    But, but, I don't want to watch.
    
166.46POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerWed Oct 25 1995 13:211
    And, tongue in cheek will have a completely new meaning.
166.47"Okay, who took my ear?"DECWIN::RALTOClinto Berata NiktoWed Oct 25 1995 15:0414
>> The mouse remains healthy and alive
>> after the ear is removed, the researchers said.
    
    Yes, but the mouse is depressed for weeks because he misses
    the ear.
    
    And how'd you like to be the mouse that grows a human penis?
    Talk about bragging rights with your fellow mice?  "Hey, Mickey,
    look what I've got now... you won't have Minnie for much longer."
    
    Then imagine how the poor mouse will feel when his endowment is
    removed for transplant to the lucky recipient.  "Hey, HEY!"
    
    Chris
166.48BIGQ::SILVADiabloWed Oct 25 1995 15:121
<---too funny, Chris!
166.49was it a left or a right earCSSREG::BROWNCommon Sense Isn'tFri Oct 27 1995 13:471
    friends, rodents, countrymen, lend me your ear(s)...
166.50DPDMAI::EDITEX::MOOREHEY! All you mimes be quiet!Fri Oct 27 1995 21:024
    
    <--- It was a right ear.  The mouse with the left ear was busy filing
         for benefits because of the ear-removeable harm done to it.
    
166.51XEDON::JENSENSat Oct 28 1995 02:055
    We keep four mice as pets.  We are expecting to begin the
    human tissue production line quite soon.  We'll be starting
    with easy items, such as the eyelid.  The ear is far too
    complicated for beginners.
    
166.52POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerSat Oct 28 1995 02:172
    That is good advice for someone who doesn't want to be drummed out of
    business.
166.53Leeches heah!~HBAHBA::HAASfloor,chair,couch,bedFri Mar 08 1996 14:4214
If'n anybody out there in BOXland needs a leech, there's a company that
will sell some to you. 

Biopharm (USA) Ltd., of Charleston, SC, raises 'em up and keeps 'em in 
stock so they can be delivered fresh to your door or place of attachment.

Biopharm claims tht their saliva contains a range of pharmaceutical 
substances a veritable "reservoir of potential drugs".

They sell a book, _Those Amazing Leeches_, and are building what they 
claim is the world's firsted leech museum with featuring bloodletting
artifact of yore and a gift shop.

TTom
166.54BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Mar 08 1996 15:003
    
    	We've already got 1, and 1 is plenty, believe me!!
    
166.55SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiFri Mar 08 1996 15:035
    .53
    
    Leeches are currently used in many of the most modern hospitals for the
    removal of blood from subcutaneous hematomas and other places where
    surgical techniques aren't appropriate or don't work very well.
166.56SMURF::WALTERSFri Mar 08 1996 15:364
    
    .54
    
    The difference is, these leeches can be good for your constitution.
166.57SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiFri Mar 08 1996 15:531
    Oh, well struck!
166.58BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityFri Mar 08 1996 15:571
monsewer walters.....very fuuny! :-)