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Title:Soapbox. Just Soapbox.
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Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
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52.0. "Movies" by GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER () Fri Nov 18 1994 11:21

    
    Seen any good ones lately?  Any bombs?  Let us know so we can spend our
    moviegoing dollar wisely.
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52.1Peggy Sue goes MMMAAAAADDDD!!!!BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Fri Nov 18 1994 12:397


	Watched Serial Mom on video Wednesday night. That was one funny movie!



52.2GMT1::TEEKEMAClass Clown & Box Jester...%^)Fri Nov 18 1994 12:427
	And then to think it was based on a real story.

	I wonder how many mom's there are out there ready
to snap like that ? Makes me wonder what my wife does at 
home all day. She is always on the phone when I try and call,
is she ticking our neighbors off......??
52.3PNTAGN::WARRENFELTZRFri Nov 18 1994 13:001
    got addicted to Scarlet, shouldn't have, lost too much sleep!
52.4LJSRV2::KALIKOWNo Federal Tacks on the Info Hwy!Fri Nov 18 1994 13:025
    Doncha mean "red" or "white" or maybe "Thunderbird?"  Ain't no swill
    named "Scarlet" imho...
    
    Oh, "ScarletT".  Sorry... :-)
    
52.5BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Fri Nov 18 1994 13:064


	Teekema, has yer neighbors talked about obcene phone calls?
52.6GMT1::TEEKEMAClass Clown & Box Jester...%^)Fri Nov 18 1994 13:074
	They haven't said anything,.........yet.

	They do act very paranoid thou.............%^)
52.7BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Fri Nov 18 1994 14:058
| <<< Note 52.6 by GMT1::TEEKEMA "Class Clown & Box Jester...%^)" >>>



| They do act very paranoid thou.............%^)


	That's probably due to you, not your wife
52.8GMT1::TEEKEMAClass Clown &amp; Box Jester...%^)Fri Nov 18 1994 14:202
	Watch it glen, I'll come over and give you some noogies...%^)
52.9BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Fri Nov 18 1994 14:324


	Promises promises promises....
52.10MPGS::MARKEYWorse!! How could it be worse!?!?Fri Nov 18 1994 14:427
    Saw Stargate last weekend...
    
    decent escapist fare. I give it a seven in the sci-fi genre. Better
    than any Star Trek film, for comparison. The guy from the Crying
    Game played Ra (Egyptian Sun God). Telegraphed ending.
    
    -b
52.11BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Fri Nov 18 1994 15:459


	Last night Patrick Stewart said they will be combining Star Wars and
Star Trek in a movie. He will be in a love triangle with Princess Leeya, Laya,
whatever her name was. He said Harrison Ford already agreed to making the
movie. When it was pointed out to him that they were in different time frames,
he responded by saying, "It's science fiction!"  He seemed very serious about
it too.
52.12TROOA::COLLINSNot Phil, not Tom, not Joan...Fri Nov 18 1994 15:5612
    
    My Top Ten Fave Movies (in no particular order):
    
    - Apocalypse Now		- The Draughtsman's Contract
    - Pulp Fiction		- 2001: A Space Odyssey
    - Local Hero		- 9.5 Weeks
    - Brazil			- Monty Python & The Holy Grail
    - Manhattan			- Star Wars (yes, I know it was
    					     terrible, but...)
    
    jc
    
52.13GenerationsDYPSS1::COGHILLSteve Coghill, Luke 14:28Fri Nov 18 1994 15:592
   I was disappointed in Generations.  It was OK.  I was expecting much
   more.  
52.14MKOTS3::SCANLONoh-oh. It go. It gone. Bye-bye.Fri Nov 18 1994 16:436
    re: .10
    
    I saw Stargate as well, and I agree.  Check your reality
    at the door and have a good time.
    
    Mary-Michael
52.15I get the feeling he takes it pretty lightlyDECWIN::RALTOClinton next.Fri Nov 18 1994 17:0316
    I saw Stewart on Leno's show, and I thought the whole Princess Leia
    thing was a big chain-yank.  As much as I admire his acting skills,
    Stewart is usually pretty disappointing on talk shows.  I'm not
    all that fond of TNG, but even at that I'm bemused by what appear
    to be his mixed feelings on the "Trek Phenomenon".
    
    re: "Generations"
    
    I guess I took my "disappointment hit" earlier when I'd read the leaked
    script... once I "accepted" that, the actual film came off as a pretty
    good implementation of the script.  There were certainly better TNG
    episodes, though.  And I can see where some TNG fans would be quite
    disturbed at some of the goings-on, but to say any more would be
    spoiling things.
    
    Chris
52.16NEMAIL::SCOTTKMy multiple extremities: O:) &gt;:&gt; :P +:)Fri Nov 18 1994 19:376
    I saw stargate, I thought the special effects were great.
    
    I also saw "Interview with an Vampire"
    
    I liked it.  If you can get past all the blood sucking you might even
    find some parts of the movie humorous.  
52.17Forrest Gump-best movie so far this year!RICKS::TOOHEYFri Nov 18 1994 20:157
    
    I thought Stargate was the worst movie I've seen all year. 
    
    I saw Generations last night. Thumb up!
    
    Paul
    
52.18MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Sat Nov 19 1994 03:044
Saw Stargate tonight and thought it was the _best_ theatrical movie I've seen
this year.

Then again, it's the _only_ theatrical movie I've seen this year. . . 
52.19GLDOA::SHOOKhead 'em up, move 'em outSat Nov 19 1994 23:123
    
    take the kids to see "the santa clause."  a good family movie and
    an early start on a little christmas cheer.
52.20HAAG::HAAGRode hard. Put up wet.Sun Nov 20 1994 17:582
    saw gump last night. STILL a big crowd in the theatre. corny story line
    for sure. but well acted and entertaining.
52.21CALDEC::RAHthe truth is out there.Mon Nov 21 1994 02:1411
    
    >corny
    
    no, it was really a clever and concious play on the cynicism
    seen in so much of modern life.
    
    one part it did have a problem about was ther rather slick
    attempt to genuflect to the antiwar mobs sensibilities by
    arranging to have the amp power cut off.
    
    what did gump say? i'd really like to know. 
52.22DELNI::SHOOKclinton has been newt-ralizedMon Nov 21 1994 04:494
    just bought a copy of grumpy old men with matthau(sp) and lemmon.
    funniest movie i've seen all year.
    
    
52.23BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Mon Nov 21 1994 12:479


	Saw Generations this weekend. I really liked it. It was the first Star
Trek movie that had plenty of laughes, without the laughter being at the old
men trying to be young again. :-)


Glen
52.24ODIXIE::ZOGRANOne hand clappingMon Nov 21 1994 13:424
    Saw Interview With the Vampire.  So-so movie.  Not as gory (IMO) as
    some of the shoot-em-up movies out.  Wait for the video.
    
    Dan
52.25WECARE::BOURGOINEMon Nov 21 1994 14:418

	Saw Generations, Friday - it was OK, still haven't decided if
	I liked it or not.  Also saw trailers for a new movie Legends 
	(?) with Brad Pitt - MSO Babes, let's put together a field 
	trip for this one!!!!  (yikes!)

Pat
52.26TROOA::COLLINSNot Phil, not Tom, not Joan...Mon Nov 21 1994 15:0110
    
    Saw `The Professional' on Saturday.  It was less violent and more
    sentimental than the trailer suggested.  Not bad, but required a
    certain suspension of disbelief for some of the more `fantastic'
    aspects.
    
    The kid who played the girl was very good (I don't usually like
    child actors very much).  We'll be seeing more of her in the future, 
    I'm sure.
    
52.27GAVEL::JANDROWGreen Eyed Lady...Tue Nov 22 1994 10:455
    
    saw 'the santa clause' saturday nite...i really liked it. tim allen is a
    hoot.  a nice movie that the whole family can enjoy together...
    
    
52.28MPGS::MARKEYSenses Working OvertimeTue Nov 22 1994 14:3738
    I rented a movie last night called "The Hudsucker Proxy."
    
    The thing that really made me interested in this movie was the cast,
    which includes: Paul Newman, Charles Durning, Jennifer Jason Leigh,
    and one of my favorites: Tim Robbins.
    
    Well, in the first couple minutes of the movie, Charles Durning says
    one "line" -- "ahem" -- winds his watch, climbs atop a boardroom
    table, runs down its length and pitches himself through the window...
    falling 44 (or 45 if you count the mezzanine) stories to his death.
    An interesting but hardly Oscar producing role for Mr. Durning.
    
    Enter Tim Robbins, who is a mail clerk for the Hudsucker Company.
    Now that Mr. Hudsucker (Charles Durning) is no longer in charge,
    they look for the biggest loser they can find to become president
    of the company... deflating the stock price so that the greedy
    directors (chief among them, Paul Newman's character) can buy
    up all the stock before it goes public. Tim Robbins. Mail Geek.
    becomes... Tim Robbins. President and CEO...
    
    But Mr. Robbins foils their plan by making the company filthy
    rich by inventing the Hula Hoop. The story line is interesting,
    and the movie is funny until...
    
    Jennifer Jason Leigh arrives. Now the movie is supposed to be a
    take-off on the fast-talking movies of the 1940s... the Spencer
    Tracy/Katherine Hepburn type roles. Unfortunately, JJL is about
    as bad as it gets and overplays the role to the point of obnoxiousness.
    That is why, 54 minutes into the movie, I rewound it and brought
    it back.
    
    So, my review of the movie is this: very promising cast, very
    promising script... but JJL (who's normally not this bad) makes
    the film unwatchable. Therefore, I can only give the movie a 1,
    or maybe a 2 for some of the great cinematography in the opening
    scenes.
    
    -b
52.30WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Nov 22 1994 14:441
    <- Yup... Bizarre movie.
52.32MPGS::MARKEYSenses Working OvertimeTue Nov 22 1994 14:488
    >Was Tim Robbins the guy who played Jacob in 'Jacob's Ladder'?
    
    Yes, and he also had two more recent films, both of which I
    liked: "The Player" in which he plays a movie producer turned
    murderer, and "Bob Roberts" in which he plays a con-man running
    for Senator.
    
    -b
52.33GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERTue Nov 22 1994 14:508
    
    
    Yup, Jacob's Ladder.  A great movie.  The end unravels all the
    strangeness throughout the rest of the movie.  Definitely worth a
    second watch.
    
    
    Mike
52.34PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Nov 22 1994 14:523
	well, there seems to be a consensus.

52.35GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERTue Nov 22 1994 14:563
    
    
    In the box?
52.36ODIXIE::CIAROCHIOne Less DogTue Nov 22 1994 17:284
    Saw Frankenstein, because I was alone and my wife and kids wouldn't
    want to see it.  Neither would I.
    
    Nowheres near as good as the one with Gene Wilder and Terri Garr...
52.37Seen This One?CSC32::M_VEGATue Nov 22 1994 17:5414
Hi, I'm looking for the title of a movie. I only caught a couple of minutes on 
the tube some years ago and this is what I remember:

A mother and daughter are at a truckers' gas/food stop. Mom is leaning against
a 16 wheeler and owns a bag (or backpack), appears to be her sum total 
possession. Daughter is trying to persuade mom to come back to earth and be 
like other normal people. Mom is something of a free spirit and tries to 
explain that it's ok for daughter to feel the way she does but hitching rides 
with truckers and doing her own thing is where she's at. Mom appears centered,
content, at peace with the world. Daughter is all bunched up about mom and life.

Anyone know this one?

Mark
52.38The Neon Ceiling?ODIXIE::ZOGRANOne hand clappingTue Nov 22 1994 18:308
    Not sure,but it could be "The Neon Ceiling"?  I think its about a mom
    and daughter who stumble across a gas(?) station out west thats run by
    a dude who takes old neone signs and puts them on the ceiling of his
    establishment.  The recollection is real fuzzy, as I saw the movie in
    the mid 70's while putting a hurting on a case of Genessee Cream Ale's
    16 ouncers.
    
    Dan
52.3933797::BENSONWed Nov 23 1994 15:1615
    
    I saw Stargate - it was entertaining.  a very good representation of
    the egyptian pyramid/ufo source myth.
    
    Pulp Fiction was awful in every sense of the word.  its amazing what
    canne glorifies as good or great.
    
    Interview with the Vampire is a well-crafted movie.  the sets/filming
    is beautiful. the acting superb.  the story however is basically two
    hours of hopelessness and despair.  i'm quite certain now that vampires
    in large part represent the humanist vision of immortality - endless
    pleasure, power, sensuality, darkness, hedonism, selfishness, riches.  
    i cannot say it was a good movie, only a well-crafted one.
    
    jeff
52.40ODIXIE::CIAROCHIOne Less DogWed Nov 23 1994 17:096
    .39 - Das Vampire...
    
>   endless pleasure, power, sensuality, darkness, hedonism, selfishness,
>   riches...
    
    Isn't that why we're working here??? 
52.41yeah, rightUSAT05::BENSONWed Nov 23 1994 17:451
    
52.42COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertWed Nov 23 1994 19:407
>Das Vampire...

Der Vampir.

Thank you for your attention.

/john
52.43My ears are gray and gnarledSUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowMon Nov 28 1994 17:533
Broke in a new copy of _Life of Brian_  on Saturday night.

A film fit for Jehovah.
52.44POLAR::RICHARDSONThe Quintessential GruntlingMon Nov 28 1994 18:001
    Were you wearing your fake beard?
52.45Two pointed ones, and a bag of gravelSUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowMon Nov 28 1994 18:063
---
yes	(in me best baritone)
---
52.46MPGS::MARKEYSenses Working OvertimeMon Nov 28 1994 18:191
    Lovely day for a stoning...
52.47PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingMon Nov 28 1994 18:291
    "Blessed are the cheesemakers...."
52.48Blessed are the meek...SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowMon Nov 28 1994 18:381
...Oh, that's nice. They 'ave a 'ell of a time.
52.49PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingMon Nov 28 1994 18:542
    "From now on, I want to be known as 'Loretta'".
    
52.50And his wife, Incontinentia Buttocks ...SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideMon Nov 28 1994 19:344
        Coincidence -  we  watched  "Life  of  Brian" (for the umptieth
        time!) at the weekend too.
        
        
52.51CSC32::J_OPPELTOracle-boundMon Nov 28 1994 19:525
    	"Are you a virgin?"
    
    	"Well that's none of your bloody business!"
    
    	(aside) "Yup, she's a virgin..."
52.52PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingTue Nov 29 1994 14:141
    "Wewease Bawwabus"
52.53MPGS::MARKEYBill Clinton: recognizable obscenityTue Nov 29 1994 14:192
    "I was sitting there mindin' me own business, when along comes Jesus and
     cures me, without so much as a `by your leave'..."
52.54CALDEC::RAHthe truth is out there.Wed Nov 30 1994 00:532
    
    the hyenas in Lion King were great. critters after my own heart.
52.55LJSRV2::KALIKOWNo Federal Tacks on the Info Hwy!Wed Nov 30 1994 01:007
    Didja read the New Yorker slam of the Lion King?  'Twas a wonder to
    read; they picked it to shreds ("Funny how the animals rejoiced when
    the Lion King & retinue returned; presumably they preferred being
    eaten by a higher class of predator.").
    
    Not that I've actually SEEN the flick mindjoo.
    
52.56USAT05::BENSONWed Nov 30 1994 12:365
    
    its a bore.  it is an original Disney script.  can't compete with the
    brothers grimm, imo.
    
    jeff
52.57POLAR::RICHARDSONThe Quintessential GruntlingWed Nov 30 1994 12:371
    Well, I thought it was great, and so did my kids. Nyah. 8-p
52.58Lion King quite good....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftWed Nov 30 1994 13:509
    
    Did a double date with Marsden and Emma (and me and Joanna) just before
    Thanksgiving for the Lion King.  Was the two twos first big screen movie. 
    They enjoyed it enough to make it to the end.
    
    We even stayed for the credits, where the four of us cheered a friend's
    name as it scrolled up the screen.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.59WAHOO::LEVESQUEwhat's the frequency, Kenneth?Wed Nov 30 1994 14:103
    >Didja read the New Yorker slam of the Lion King?
    
     The New Yorker has a snot problem.
52.60{simper}POLAR::RICHARDSONThe Quintessential GruntlingWed Nov 30 1994 14:252
    
    
52.61stop thatPOWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionWed Nov 30 1994 14:251
    
52.62USMVS::DAVISWed Nov 30 1994 14:485
Seems to me that some of the most entertaining and best made movies to come 
out these days are coming from the animation studios at Disney. Yeah, you 
can fault them in a lot of ways -- but what can't you? For my buck, its 
hard to beat the diversionary splendor of B & t B, Aladin, and Lion King. 
And I get to take the kids along, too.
52.631/2 ;-)SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, SDSC West, Palo AltoWed Nov 30 1994 15:1813
    with the lions in control, the "circle of life" was maintained and
    balanced; when a wimp lion made a deal with the hyenas to sell out and
    kill the rightful heir, and the hyenas took over, they destroyed
    wantonly; their packs ran wild, and the "circle of life" was damaged.
    The vibrant veldt became a wasteland of death.  I thought it could be
    loosely compared to stalinist-era soviet practise; the destruction of
    the kulaks in the name of collectivized agriculture, with the
    subsequent destruction of productivity and the vegetables rotting in
    the fields.  Hyenas standing in for stalinist thugs.
    
    No wonder the New Yorker didn't like it, buncha commies.
    
    DougO
52.64ODIXIE::CIAROCHIOne Less DogWed Nov 30 1994 16:282
    Actually, hyena farts ruined the ozone layer, causing massive UV
    destruction of the veldt.  Keep yer fax strate.
52.65WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Wed Nov 30 1994 16:3610
    Over Thanksgiving I watched a film called Romeo is Bleeding, starring
    Gary Oldman, Lena Olin and Annabella Sciorra. Oldman portrays a cop
    on the take, Sciorra plays his wife, and Lena Olin portrays a Russian
    gangster.
    
    I think I  would describe the film as a somewhat pretentious character
    study.
    
    My attention must have lapsed, because I really didn't get the scene
    with the chainsaw, the prosthesis and the corpse.
52.66GAVEL::JANDROWGreen Eyed Lady...Wed Nov 30 1994 17:336
    
    
    hyena farts!?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?
    
    
    
52.67POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionWed Nov 30 1994 17:452
    
    ...don't ask.
52.68CSC32::J_OPPELTOracle-boundWed Nov 30 1994 17:573
    	Saw Sophie's Choice last night.
    
    	Haunting.  I'll be thinking about that one for a long time.
52.69GAVEL::JANDROWGreen Eyed Lady...Wed Nov 30 1994 18:346
    
    
    but hyena farts!?!?!?!?
    
    
    
52.70SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareWed Nov 30 1994 18:371
    shouldn't that be hyena butt farts?
52.71POLAR::RICHARDSONThe Quintessential GruntlingWed Nov 30 1994 19:081
    You mean they have the ability to fart out of other orifices?
52.72SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareWed Nov 30 1994 19:171
    <-- this troubles me.
52.73{simper}POLAR::RICHARDSONThe Quintessential GruntlingWed Nov 30 1994 19:212
    
    
52.74BIGQ::MARCHANDWed Nov 30 1994 19:213
    
        Do they laugh while their farting? Or do they fart, then laugh?
    
52.75MPGS::MARKEYBill Clinton: recognizable obscenityWed Nov 30 1994 19:221
    Or do they laugh so hard, it makes them fart...
52.76POLAR::RICHARDSONThe Quintessential GruntlingWed Nov 30 1994 19:251
    Can hyena's fart out there ears?
52.77BIGQ::MARCHANDWed Nov 30 1994 19:272
    
        Do they laugh so much because of all the farting going on?
52.78POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionWed Nov 30 1994 19:516
    
    Hyenas.
    
    No '.
    
    Honestly, Glenn.  I'm appalled.
52.79Boys, boys!TNPUBS::JONGI love Italian food, and so do you!Wed Nov 30 1994 19:531
    Getting off saying the word...?
52.80POLAR::RICHARDSONThe Quintessential GruntlingWed Nov 30 1994 20:041
    What's wrong with saying boys?
52.81POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionWed Nov 30 1994 20:173
    
    ...and Rosie's not a boy!
    
52.82LJSRV2::KALIKOWNo Federal Tacks on the Info Hwy!Wed Nov 30 1994 23:196
    What an absolutely hysterical string!!
    
    'Scuse me, I gots to leave the room & open all the windoze.
    
    |-{:-)
    
52.83VMSSG::LYCEUM::CURTISDick &quot;Aristotle&quot; CurtisThu Dec 01 1994 02:284
    Perhaps one or more hyenas saw a particular scene from "Blazing
    Saddles", and it spread like ...
    
    Dick
52.84CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantThu Dec 01 1994 12:055
    RE: other orifices etc.  Yes, I have seen the results of a cranial fart
    when someone with zero understanding comes up the a "brilliant" idea. 
    They usually have large org charts under them.  
    
    Brian
52.85GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERMontanabound, oneof these daysThu Dec 01 1994 12:153
    
    
    Just leave them closed and enjoy the.....er, bouquet, Dan. :')
52.86POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionThu Dec 01 1994 13:227
    
    I saw the adverts this morning for the movie version of Michael
    Crichton (sp?)'s _Disclosure_.  Great book.  Hope the movie does it
    justice.
    
    I usually don't frequent cinemas, but am willing to make an exception
    in this case.  It opens the 9th.
52.87BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Thu Dec 01 1994 13:4613
| <<< Note 52.56 by USAT05::BENSON >>>


| its a bore. it is an original Disney script. can't compete with the brothers 
| grimm, imo.

	You're an expert at being a bore Jeff..... me thinks the animation and
the storyline combined help make this movie such a success. Plus the fact that
the name Disney doesn't carry that same cringe it had a few years back, which
led to Touchstone films.


Glen
52.88CSLALL::HENDERSONDig a little deeperThu Dec 01 1994 13:513

 Sheesh....
52.89do i look like a "Joe" or what?USAT05::BENSONThu Dec 01 1994 14:131
    
52.90OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Thu Dec 01 1994 15:569
    Re: .86
    
    >Great book.  Hope the movie does it justice.
    
    I liked the book.  I'm just sorry that we're going to have yet another
    movie in which the successful businesswoman is the villain (or do I
    need to say villainess?).  It's not that I don't want them to make it
    into a movie, I want them to make more movies where a successful woman
    isn't evil or pitiful.
52.91POLAR::RICHARDSONThe Quintessential GruntlingThu Dec 01 1994 15:582
    <--- Rent Baby Boom. Great example of a successful business woman. And
    it's funny.
52.92BIGQ::SILVAMemories.....Thu Dec 01 1994 16:4710
| <<< Note 52.89 by USAT05::BENSON >>>


| -< do i look like a "Joe" or what? >-

	Unless you got a ponytail, glasses like father mulkayhe (sp?), I'd have
to go with the what.



52.93MPGS::MARKEYBill Clinton: recognizable obscenityThu Dec 01 1994 18:1018
    Recently saw "Speed" with Keanu Reeves (sp?)...
    
    One critic described it as "Die Hard on a Bus"... pretty accurate,
    except that it was actually, "Die Hard on a Elevator, Bus and Subway".
    Dennis Hopper plays a crazy villain... talk about a stretch!!! :-) :-)
    All sorts of improbable situations, like LA cops acting bravely and
    in the best interest of the citizens and TV reporters providing a
    useful service... about the only realistic aspect of the movie was
    that virtually every place they went, there was construction in
    progress...
    
    Still, it was decent VCR fare and contributed a new babe to my
    boinkability list... (the woman who was in "Demolition Man" and
    who also *very nicely* graced the cover of "TV Host" magazine
    a few months back ... sorry I can't remember her name, I was,
    er, distracted... :-)
    
    -b
52.94CSC32::J_OPPELTI'm an orca.Thu Dec 01 1994 18:243
    	re .92
    
    	You're obsessed.  Get a life.
52.95MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Dec 01 1994 18:283
> (or do I need to say villainess?)

Oh, by all means, please do.
52.96DTRACY::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Thu Dec 01 1994 20:073
    Re: .93
    
    Sandra Bullock
52.97MPGS::MARKEYBill Clinton: recognizable obscenityThu Dec 01 1994 20:223
    RE: .96
    
    Bingo...
52.98Movie trivia...BSS::HAYESJVeryfunny,Scotty.Nowbeamdownmyclothes.Fri Dec 02 1994 06:303
    What was the only movie to have it's credits at the end spoken rather
    than printed to be read?
    
52.99MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Dec 02 1994 12:581
XXX-rated or otherwise?
52.100MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Dec 02 1994 12:593
Citizen Kane treated the cast credits interestingly with audio, though they
weren't actually spoken credits.

52.101ODIXIE::CIAROCHIOne Less DogFri Dec 02 1994 17:241
    was it a movie for the blind?
52.102"Junior"TROOA::TRP109::Chris...plays well with other childrenFri Dec 02 1994 21:315
Went and saw Ahhnald last night.  Enjoyed the movie - light comedy and about 
what I would expect.  I would love to know Maria Shrivers reaction - I bet 
Ahhnald based a lot of his actions/reactions on true life experience. Of 
course you do have to check your logic meter at the door, but that's to be 
expected ahead of time don't you think?
52.103POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionFri Dec 02 1994 21:332
    
    Did he, at any point, say "grab my hand"?
52.104SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowFri Dec 02 1994 21:447
    I saw Arnold on Letterman's show a week or two ago, and he freely
    admits that quite a lot of his performance is based on Maria's
    pregnancies!
    
    He also noted that the Kennedy clan didn't ask him to campaign
    for Uncle Ted.  (chuckle)
    
52.105MPGS::MARKEYThey got flannel up 'n' down 'emFri Dec 02 1994 21:461
    Vote for Ted... or I'll be bach...
52.106CSC32::J_OPPELTI'm an orca.Fri Dec 02 1994 21:582
    	Is Maria S a renegade republican?  In a recent conversation in
    	which I participated, that was the claim someone made.
52.107SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowFri Dec 02 1994 22:116
    I've never heard what Maria's political affiliation is.
    Arnold, however, is a staunch Republican.
    
    Must make for interesting talk at the holiday table in
    Hyannisport!
    
52.108ODIXIE::CIAROCHIOne Less DogSat Dec 03 1994 04:311
    Maria's political affiliation is Kennedy.
52.109More credits.KIRKTN::DMILLERHello...it's me.Sat Dec 03 1994 22:3110
    
    Another "credits" question.
    
    In which film did the credits consist of the stars 'revealing' 
    themselves. (ooh err).
    
    
    
    Derek.
    
52.110WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Mon Dec 05 1994 02:161
    ONe film where this happened was The List of Adrian Messenger.
52.111BSS::HAYESJVeryfunny,Scotty.Nowbeamdownmyclothes.Mon Dec 05 1994 09:143
    Anybody else want to guess at .98?
    
    
52.112PEAKS::OAKEYThe difference? About 8000 milesMon Dec 05 1994 09:169
Re: <<< Note 52.111 by BSS::HAYESJ "Veryfunny,Scotty.Nowbeamdownmyclothes." >>>

>>    Anybody else want to guess at .98?

Well if you want a total guess, Mel Brook's Silent Movie?

                      Roak

But I don't think so...
52.113BSS::HAYESJVeryfunny,Scotty.Nowbeamdownmyclothes.Mon Dec 05 1994 11:5713
    Answer to .98

    >What was the only movie to have it's credits at the end spoken rather
    >than printed to be read?
    
    I thought about this for some time and figured that it had to be a fairly
    old movie, as the credits back then were not as long as they have been
    over the more recent years.  I still couldn't think of it, so the one who
    posed the question gave me the answer...
    
    it was so simple, why didn't I remember it?  It was a memorable movie...
    
    M*A*S*H
52.114Excellent flickMOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Dec 06 1994 14:012
29th Street

52.115PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Dec 06 1994 14:132
 hard to go wrong with Aiello in the mix.

52.116maybeWONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Tue Dec 06 1994 23:186
    
    >  hard to go wrong with Aiello in the mix.
    
    Seen "The Pickle?"
    
    
52.117LJSRV2::KALIKOWCyberian-AmericanTue Dec 06 1994 23:212
    Yeah, I saw it.  What a bomb!!
    
52.118he is good thoughPENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsWed Dec 07 1994 13:565
 okay well.  i said "hard", not "impossible".  ;>

 no, i haven't seen "the pickle" and now i won't - ever.  thanks.

52.119LJSRV2::KALIKOWCyberian-AmericanWed Dec 07 1994 16:022
    Yep, Aiello is good.  Very good.  Mostly.  :>
    
52.120110BHUNA::DMILLERHello...it's me.Fri Dec 09 1994 06:3010
    
    Re .110
    
    Correct.
    
    I couldn't remember the title.
    
    
    
    
52.121Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMTue Dec 13 1994 00:346
    I know this is sad but....
    
    I rented "The Beverly Hill Billies" (sp?) the other day. Gawwwd it was
    terrible. Didn't see enough of Lea Thompson neither.
    
    never, ever, ever, ever (ever) again. 
52.122Wonder if I've got that review around here somewhere?DECWIN::RALTOSuffering from p/n writer's blockTue Dec 13 1994 15:0211
    re: .121
    
    I've seen lots and lots of movies in 41 years.  "The Beverly
    Hillbillies" has the honor of having won my coveted "The Worst Film of
    All Time" award.  I wrote a "review" on it for a movie-loving pal, and
    now he absolutely refuses to rent it.  I've offered to rent it myself
    and bring it over for us to watch together (because it is an
    experience), but he says he won't let me in the house if I have a
    "Hillbillies" tape in my hand.
    
    Chris
52.123Ishtar wuz worse.CSSREG::BROWNKB1MZ FN42Wed Dec 14 1994 14:343
    Beverly Hillibillies is only Second Worst, the real coveted honor
    goes to "Ishtar". That POS was the absolutely worst sewage to ever come
    out of Hollyweird.
52.124WAHOO::LEVESQUEprepayah to suffahWed Dec 14 1994 14:384
    Looks like Dumb and Dumber (or whatever) will be likely to win that
    coveted honor.
    
    Can anyone explain the appeal of such a waste of celluloid?
52.125POLAR::RICHARDSONWed Dec 14 1994 14:531
    Jim Carrey.
52.126POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PerditionWed Dec 14 1994 14:572
    
    Great haircut btw.
52.127He did a porn movie too... BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Wed Dec 14 1994 16:008


	There is some movie that he was in long ago, that is being released. I
think this is the one. IF it is, he doesn't spend much time in it. 


Glen
52.128POLAR::RICHARDSONWed Dec 14 1994 17:081
    Nope, not this one.
52.129the only hockey we'll see this year...GAVEL::JANDROWAu naturelle..back 2 basicsWed Dec 14 1994 20:206
    
    cam neely is in it too!!!!
    
    (not the porn...the dumb one... ;>:>)
    
    
52.130BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Wed Dec 14 1994 20:254


	bummer raq.... he's a cutie...
52.131If it's new, Carrey's as dumb as his characterTNPUBS::JONGSteveWed Dec 14 1994 20:452
   So, is "Dumb and Dumber" an old movie released to cash in on Jim
   Carrey's popularity, or is it {shudder} a *new* film?
52.132GAVEL::JANDROWAu naturelle..back 2 basicsWed Dec 14 1994 21:038
    
    
    i do believe it is a new film....cam is in it and he was on a phone
    interview the other day on a radio station and he (or the radio guy)
    said something about needing something to fill the void of the hockey
    strike...
    
    
52.133Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMWed Dec 14 1994 21:063
    Went to see The Mask, at last, yesterday evening. What a waste of 
    money :^( It was simular to the things that dangle between a human
    male's legs.
52.134JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Dec 14 1994 21:167
    I saw MASK and noted how easily it was to dismiss accountability for
    one's actions.. The MASK made him steal the money and therefore he
    wasn't really a bad guy and the *real* bad guys paid for the crime he
    committed... seemed like warped justice and certainly not edifying for
    kids who shirk responsibility and accountability so easily today!
    
    The only part I LIKED was the when the dog got masked! :-)
52.135Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMWed Dec 14 1994 21:352
    So we agree then it was bollox! oppps did I over stretch the language ?
    
52.136Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMWed Dec 14 1994 21:372
    Going back to "Dumb and Dumber", I laughed more in the trailor for this
    film than I did during MASK. I was kinda wanting to see this but......
52.137POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 15 1994 00:514
    I dare anybody to say Ace Ventura Pet Detective wasn't funny. I hope
    Jim Carrey does another Ace movie.

    Glenn
52.138GLDOA::SHOOKhead 'em up, move 'em outThu Dec 15 1994 00:579
    
 re: Note 52.12  <<<CSSREG::BROWN "KB1MZ FN42" >>>
    
   > Beverly Hillibillies is only Second Worst, the real coveted honor
   > goes to "Ishtar". That POS was the absolutely worst sewage to ever come
   > out of Hollyweird.
    
      you musta missed "heaven's gate".  has to be seen to be believed.
    
52.139JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Dec 15 1994 03:201
    Ace Ventura was *not* funny!
52.140Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMThu Dec 15 1994 03:491
    tee hee
52.141GIDDAY::BURTA field of golden dandelionsThu Dec 15 1994 04:035
I rather liked the bit in A.V. when the landlord came to check out if A.V. had 
any pets....


Chele
52.142CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantThu Dec 15 1994 10:404
    Well just goes to show tastes differ.  I thought A.V. was quite funny
    in a cornball sort of way.  Made me laugh, a lot.
    
    Brian
52.143WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Dec 15 1994 10:467
    -.1 Brian, I'm sure what they meant to add was ..."to me."
        
       Otherwise, they'd be assuming a right to say what you might
       think is funny or entertaining. We bith know no one would
       ever assume that :-)
    
       Chip
52.144CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantThu Dec 15 1994 10:502
    Oh.  I see.  I must have missed the implied IMO, again.  Silly me. 
    :-). 
52.145POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 15 1994 11:3411
    re: Ace Ventura
    
    Well, for me it was when he went to that party and made a complete goof
    out of himself. Oh, and the scene where he played Hindskits Velvet,
    Trainer of Dolphins. And what about trying to get admitted to mental
    home, work boots and a pink frufru doing football slow-mo. Comic
    genius.

    If you didn't find that funny, your corset was on too tight.

    Glenn
52.146SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowThu Dec 15 1994 14:143
I'm with Glenn (well, not _with_ him, but...)

"Come to me, my jungle friends."
52.147POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 15 1994 14:217
    YES! YES!
    
    Can you feel that baby? HUH? HUH? HUH?
    
    I have exorcised the demons! This house is cleah.
    
    Losers! Loo hooo, ze herrrr!
52.148PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsThu Dec 15 1994 14:403
 the sliding glass door thing was purty freakin' funny too

52.149POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 15 1994 15:261
    Rrrreeeeeee heeeee heeeeee heeeeh heeeeallly.
52.150PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingThu Dec 15 1994 15:381
    "Blue Lagoon" is the worst movie ever.  "Perfect" is a close 2nd.
52.151WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Dec 15 1994 15:471
    AV - Allllllllllll Riiiiighteee Then...
52.152POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 15 1994 15:483
    Mind if I ass you a few question?

    What's the matter? Afraid I'll make a stink?!?
52.153WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Dec 15 1994 15:491
    "For God's sake Jim, I'm a doctor, not a pool man!"
52.154Boink! (And yes, I know about her plumbing 8^)TNPUBS::JONGSteveThu Dec 15 1994 15:503
   I know "Perfect" gets critical brickbats, but I feel that any movie that
   contains extensive footage of Jamie Lee Curtis leading an aerobics class
   is not without merit.
52.155POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 15 1994 16:122
    First ve are making zee dolphins disappear, zen ve have zee vite tiegahs
    und ze stuffink in ze pants, und I'm gone!
52.156CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanThu Dec 15 1994 19:3516
52.157Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMThu Dec 15 1994 22:133
    Ace Ventura was funny - No arguing
    
    No thanks
52.158WAS NOT! SNARF!!! :-)JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Dec 15 1994 22:451
    
52.159Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMThu Dec 15 1994 22:521
    tee hee (was too!!):^)
52.160GIDDAY::BURTA field of golden dandelionsThu Dec 15 1994 23:083
I liked it

Chele
52.161WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Dec 16 1994 08:441
    <- ...and that's all that really counts, now isn't it!
52.162CSOA1::LEECHannuit coeptis novus ordo seclorumFri Dec 16 1994 12:212
    It was funny in parts, but annoying in others.  He overdid the
    silliness, IMO.
52.163He doesn't know any other way!CSLALL::CEANESLaughter is a smile that explodedFri Dec 16 1994 13:544
    <--- Jim Carrey overact??? Say it isn't so! ;^)
    
    C
    
52.164POLAR::RICHARDSONFri Dec 16 1994 14:164
    Buncha pious grumps, I say.
    
    
    "Stuff probably looks better on the way out!"
52.165BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Fri Dec 16 1994 14:247

	William Shatner, now there is an OVERactor! Jim Carey? Nah, he's just
silly.... Shatner does it because he thinks that is the way it should be!


Glen
52.166Still, it wouldn't be (classic) Trek without himDECWIN::RALTOSuffering from p/n writer's blockFri Dec 16 1994 14:347
    Yabut at least Shatner was reasonably restrained in "Generations".
    I walked in there fully expecting him to ruin it, and he actually
    did okay.  He even did some subtle (!) facial expressions during
    the Enterprise-B scenes.  Later, though, I'll admit he overdid
    the "Sounds like fun!" line, but I think that was his only lapse.
    
    Chris
52.167JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Dec 16 1994 14:353
    
    Amazing the trash that folks like these days.  Jim Carey is Ren on Ren
    and Stimpy!   And they are just as bad!
52.168WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Dec 16 1994 14:425
    -.1 I don't consider Carey's stuff in trash category. I do have a
      trash catagory, but it has nothing to do with a little mindless
      schtik(sp?)...
    
       Chip
52.169I've ranted at length about him, fortunately off-lineDECWIN::RALTOSuffering from p/n writer's blockFri Dec 16 1994 14:529
    I thought Billy West (?) did both Ren and Stimpy's voice...
    
    But in any event, Carrey sets my teeth on edge.  Can't stand him,
    not even for a split second.  Fortunately, he can only make a finite
    number of goofy faces, which the insatiable, short-attention-span
    public will quickly tire of, and then he will become a Trivial
    Pursuit question.
    
    Chris
52.170Don't LET them promote you. Don't LET them move you...TNPUBS::JONGSteveFri Dec 16 1994 14:556
   I saw a movie magazine article on "Star Trek: Generations" describing
   the several takes of the scene of Shatner and Stewart on horseback.  The
   scene looks fine, the reporter said, but every time they shot it Shatner
   punched different words -- in other words, it was all shtick to him.
   Stewart, when asked if it was difficult for a classically trained
   Shakespearian actor to work with that technique, was diplomatic 8^)
52.171SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareFri Dec 16 1994 15:007
    .170
    
    > Stewart, when asked if it was difficult for a classically trained
    > Shakespearian actor to work with that technique, was diplomatic 8^)
    
    as well he might be.  shatner is also a shakespearean, albeit canadian
    rather than brit.
52.172It's not so simpleTNPUBS::JONGSteveFri Dec 16 1994 15:031
   Don't blame his acting on being Canadian!
52.173Har... I hope they got the best takesDECWIN::RALTOSuffering from p/n writer's blockFri Dec 16 1994 15:0614
    re: .170 Steve
    
    Ha-ha... that doesn't surprise me too much (doing the lines
    differently every time), but it was still funny.  How about
    "Don't let them promote... YOU!"
    
    As much as I used to defend him in the old Trek conference
    (imagine yawning through three years of Hunter in the lead
    role, for example), I think he stopped taking the character
    seriously after the first couple of years.
    
    "Hey, it was just a... LARK!" :-)
    
    Chris
52.174JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Dec 16 1994 15:153
    I was joking about Ren - He just reminds me of him... trash.
    
    :-)
52.175NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Dec 16 1994 15:331
Free the Framingham 14.
52.176BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Fri Dec 16 1994 16:2010


	Ren is NOT trash. He's just always angry! 

	And Billy West does do both Ren & Stimpy NOW, as they booted the
creator, John K (wouldn't even attempt to spell it) from the show. 


Glen
52.178DASHER::RALSTONAin't Life Fun!Tue Dec 20 1994 13:026
    If you go to the movies for reality, you will be disappointed. I saw
    "Speed" to feast my eyes on Ms. Bullock, and what a feast it was!!
    
    Excuse me, I need to get a towel!!!!!!
    
    ...Tom 
52.177PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Dec 20 1994 13:0514
	Speed

	what unfortunate twist of fate made Keanu Reeves take up acting?
	pitiful.  the only thing worse than the acting was the dialogue.

	ridiculously impossible stunts.  stripping wires while riding
	supine on a piece of metal on wheels, traveling at 55 mph, underneath
	a bus.  most people couldn't strip a wire while sitting
	in an easy chair, traveling at zero mph, in their livingroom, without
	cutting into a wire.

	people say "oh, but there's lots of action!".  whoop-dee-doo.

52.179CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue Dec 20 1994 13:0711

>	a bus.  most people couldn't strip a wire while sitting
>	in an easy chair, traveling at zero mph, in their livingroom, without
>	cutting into a wire.


 You musta been watching me hooking up my new receiver Friday night ;-)



52.180PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Dec 20 1994 13:099
>>    If you go to the movies for reality, you will be disappointed.

	first of all, i didn't go to it - it was rented.  and secondly,
	trust me, i don't need any lectures about reality in movies.
	there are impossible stunts that are done well, as in Raiders,
	and then there are the _ridiculously_ impossible ones, and this
	was chock full of 'em.

52.181BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Tue Dec 20 1994 13:224

	Lady Di, I MUST remind you though, the movie had Keanu Reeves in it.
Nuff said... :-)
52.182GMT1::TEEKEMAThe ultimate experiment gone bad !!Tue Dec 20 1994 13:236
	Sorry to disagree, I thought Speed was great. Kept you
on the edge of your chair all through it. And when you thought
it was over, it started all over again.

	Totally radical................%^)
52.183PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Dec 20 1994 13:265
	>>And when you thought
	>>it was over, it started all over again.

	yes, that was unfortunate too.

52.184SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareTue Dec 20 1994 13:285
    .181
    
    keanu reeves is sufficient reason not to see a film.  his presence in
    much ado about nothing was ovbiously to suck in the younger crowd, and
    he came nigh unto ruining the film with his utter ineptitude.
52.185BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Tue Dec 20 1994 13:374


	But he is soooo cute... :-)
52.186SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareTue Dec 20 1994 13:383
    .185
    
    no.  he is a spoiled brat, and he looks like it.
52.187BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Tue Dec 20 1994 13:406
| <<< Note 52.186 by SMURF::BINDER "vitam gustare" >>>


| no.  he is a spoiled brat, and he looks like it.

	What he looks like is.... adorable...
52.188SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareTue Dec 20 1994 13:421
    glen, i've never questioned your taste.  until now.
52.189PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Dec 20 1994 13:438
	>>What he looks like is.... adorable...


	eesh.  he had exactly one pained expression during the whole movie,
	which he alternated with having no expression whatsoever.

	
52.190WECARE::BOURGOINETue Dec 20 1994 13:448
    
>> no.  he is a spoiled brat, and he looks like it.

	Well, if that's what a spolied brat looks like, I would be 
	willing to learn how to deal with it!

	Pat

52.191From humble beginnings...TNPUBS::JONGSteveTue Dec 20 1994 13:442
   I don't want to get into how cute he may be, but to know that he went
   from "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" to this is to me astonishing.
52.192PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Dec 20 1994 13:4711
>>   I don't want to get into how cute he may be, but to know that he went
>>   from "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" to this is to me astonishing.

	he was at least funny in that.  the vapid expressionlessness came in
	handy.

	his "acting" in "Speed" was the most pathetic i've seen in quite
	some time.


52.193BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Tue Dec 20 1994 13:4912


	Dick, I'm sorry you had to question my taste, but he really is
adorable! 

	Lady Di, if the expression wasn't so cute, it would have been bad. But
the guy is a hunk! (although Brad Pitt is best)

	Steve, it is QUITE the change from Bill & Ted to this. Talk about a
make-over. From seeing him on the talk shows a few times, he seems to be more
like he was in Bill & Ted though..... :-)
52.194Ouch!TNPUBS::JONGSteveTue Dec 20 1994 13:495
   Such venom, Lady Di!
   
   I must admit that Sandra Bullock's acting is minimalist as well.
   I guess that leaves Dennis Hopper, dean of the Chemistry Department of
   the William Shatner School of Overacting... 8^)
52.195:-)CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Dec 20 1994 13:508
    If anyone expected anything but impossible stunts, improbable maniacs
    and an endless string of violence and destruction than you were sorely
    mislead.  I however thrive on this and was thoroughly delighted.  Why I
    sat right down in front of the teevee with a nice cold glass of Carton
    de Merlot and a big bowl of Reddenbackers w/white cheese and enjoyed
    the explosion fest. 
    
    Brian
52.196PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Dec 20 1994 13:516
  >> Such venom, Lady Di!

	"venom"?  what's evil and spiteful about assessing someone's
	acting as terrible?  gimme a break.

52.197GMT1::TEEKEMAThe ultimate experiment gone bad !!Tue Dec 20 1994 13:513
	Well, it's not like Arnold Schwarzenager or Jean-Cleaude
are great actors either %^(
52.198CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Dec 20 1994 13:522
    They're not?!?!? Oh my, I guess I need to recalibrate my talent
    sensors.
52.199CSOA1::LEECHannuit coeptis novus ordo seclorumTue Dec 20 1994 13:538
    I liked "Speed"...good blast of continual action.  I was too busy
    watching Ms. Bullock to pay much attention to what's-his-name, though,
    so I have no idea what you people are talking about.  8^)
    
    The "bus jump" was a bit much, though.  I don't mind a bit of
    unrealistic stuntmanship, but this was too much.
    
    -steve
52.200CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Dec 20 1994 13:532
    A sneak preSNARF.
    
52.201It's just the warmth with which you roast his bunsTNPUBS::JONGSteveTue Dec 20 1994 14:082
   Oh, I agree with your opinion on his acting.  I just feel that you've
   been delivering it with surprising zeal.
52.202SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdTue Dec 20 1994 14:288
    
    Saw the movie this past weekend... You have to turn your brain off at
    the door... Entertaining, fast-paced. Sure there were a lot of flaws... 
    who cares? I paid $2.50 for it and was entertained... 
    
      The bus leap was just that... a leap of logic!! :) The other thing I
    moaned about was the train at the end.. Why couldn't they just shut the
    power off to the tracks??
52.203POLAR::RICHARDSONTue Dec 20 1994 14:327
    I enjoyed the movie TIMECOP more than SPEED. And I must admit
    Jean-Claude really isn't that bad an actor and I'd rather have his
    looks than Kenu Reeves.

    I guess I like time travel stories.

    Glenn
52.205PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Dec 20 1994 14:374
	zeal. ;>  geez, if i raise my voice one decibel, everybody's
	all over me.  ooh er, etc.

52.206BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Tue Dec 20 1994 14:3910
52.207Laughing at a bad comedyTNPUBS::JONGSteveTue Dec 20 1994 14:405
   It was the repetition, I guess.  As I said, I agree with you.
   
   Siskel and Ebert reviewed "Dumb and Dumber."  Ebert didn't like it, but
   admitted there was one scene so funny it nearly hospitalized him.
   (I don't know or care what it was 8^)
52.208WAHOO::LEVESQUEprepayah to suffahTue Dec 20 1994 14:434
     It's the dynamic range, Di. If Chelsea were making the same comments,
    no one would bat an eye. If it were <she who shall not be named for
    fear of provoking her to infest this conference as well>, then people
    would wonder if she were not feeling well, being so mild of word... ;^>
52.209GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNo eggnoggin n tobogganinTue Dec 20 1994 14:597
    
    
    Well, I support you lady Di.  FWIW (not much I realize)
    
    
    
    Mike
52.210GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampTue Dec 20 1994 15:5015
    >> Why couldn't they just shut the power off to the tracks??
    
    that's what *I* said!!!  i mean, it isn't electric for nothing!!
    
    and lady di, i agree with you on most counts here...keanu (sp) can't
    act.  his voice sounded so fake.  i vaguely remember bill & ted's
    adventure, but i am sure he was much better in that, being the air-head
    that he seems to be.  and there really wasn't a whole heck of a lot of
    stunts in the movie that could have been done by your every day swat
    member...
    
    and glen, as <> said, i have never doubted your tastes til know...how
    can you put keanu and kenny in the same category!?!?!?!?!??!
    
    
52.211DASHER::RALSTONAin't Life Fun!Tue Dec 20 1994 15:584
    It was interesting to me that the speed of the train could be increased
    but the throttle couldn't be decreased. It was more fun their way!!
    
    ...Tom 
52.212CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue Dec 20 1994 16:009


 I kinda liked Keanu Reeves in "Parenthood" (in a couple of scenes anyway).




Jim
52.213PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Dec 20 1994 16:043
   maybe he was absent from acting class the day they did "looks of anxiety".

52.214POLAR::RICHARDSONTue Dec 20 1994 16:041
    I believe that was just gas.
52.215BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Tue Dec 20 1994 17:278
| <<< Note 52.210 by GAVEL::JANDROW "brain cramp" >>>


| and glen, as <> said, i have never doubted your tastes til know...how
| can you put keanu and kenny in the same category!?!?!?!?!??!

	I haven't. Keanu is better.... :-)

52.216HAAG::HAAGRode hard. Put up wet.Tue Dec 20 1994 18:081
    i'm with lady di. speed sucked.
52.217Not Clique and Claque....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Dec 20 1994 18:2120
    While in the Doctor's office the other day, was going through the few
    magazines that were about.
    
    Anyhow, one of them had a "review" of sorts of Speed by Click and Clack.
    
    
    For one of several bus stunts, how much would it have cost to fix?
    
    This is my bad (and not as funny) recollection of what they wrote, but...
    
    Exiting the highway, hitting cars on off ramp:
    
    Click - Bus drops below 55, boom, new bus, 250K.
    Clack - Oh come on, what if they did stay over 55?
    Click - Then easy, 400 pounds bondo, three hours labor, $250.00
    Clack - You forget, we are talking city workers.
    Clack - That's right, 400 pounds bondo, three hundred hours labor, $25K,
    still cheaper than a new bus.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.218ick...GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampTue Dec 20 1994 19:245
    >> I haven't. Keanu is better.... :-)
    
    i'll remember that...
    
    
52.219hawaiian? WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Tue Dec 20 1994 19:273
    From whence 'Keanu' - ?
    
    
52.220GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampTue Dec 20 1994 19:417
    
    
    yes, i do believe he is of some sort of polynesian ancestory...
    
    either that or indian
    
    
52.221NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Dec 20 1994 19:421
It's "unique" backwards, almost.
52.222BIGQ::SILVANobody wants a Charlie in the Box!Wed Dec 21 1994 12:028
| <<< Note 52.218 by GAVEL::JANDROW "brain cramp" >>>

| >> I haven't. Keanu is better.... :-)

| i'll remember that...


	:-)
52.223WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Wed Dec 21 1994 16:195
    There seem to be a lot of Jesus movies on TV these days.
    
    Jeffrey Hunter, Max von Sydow, Ben-Hur, Barrabas, and perhaps others.
    
    Weren't no "keanu's" back in them golden days of Hollywood.
52.224Watch It!! or else!!8-)MKOTS3::LEE_SMon Dec 26 1994 15:366
    I recently saw two hilarious Bill Murray movies, that I strongly
    recommend.  
    	What about Bob?  &   Quick Change
    They are two very funny movies with Bill Murray at his best.
    			Enjoy!
    						steve
52.225Double "Bill".MASALA::DMILLERHello...it's me.Tue Dec 27 1994 07:389
    
    We had a double Bill Murray over here just before Christmas.
    "Quick Change" was very funny. 
    "Caddyshack" wasn't quite as funny as I'd remembered, but Rodney
    Dangerfield had some classic lines.
    
    
    
    Derek.
52.226Now I know why Dennis Hopper does those wierd Nike CommercialsVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyTue Dec 27 1994 16:256
    How ironic.  I watched "Speed" a few days ago.  It was alright.
    I also watched "Philedelphia".  I thought it would suck, but even
    though there were some "tender" (GACK) moments in the movie I thought
    it was good.  At then end of the movie when they were watching home
    movies of <whatever-his-name-was> (tom hanks) ouch... (no need to pass
    the hanky y'all).
52.227PNTAGN::WARRENFELTZRTue Dec 27 1994 16:275
    We went to the movies a week ago and before seeing the feature, had to
    live thru 5 previews...that's a girl's only flick...that's a guy's only
    flick...that's trash...that's a buddy-day flick with mom...that's a
    girl's flick...1 outta 5 that I would like to watch...that's why my
    Blockbuster membership is invaluable.
52.228CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue Dec 27 1994 16:359

 My ex got one of my kids "Benny and Joon" for Christmas.  I'd never seen
 the film, but watched it Christmas Day...I really enjoyed it.




Jim
52.229LJSRV2::KALIKOWSERVE&lt;a href=&quot;SURF_GLOBAL&quot;&gt;LOCAL&lt;/a&gt;Tue Dec 27 1994 17:296
    Saw "Ready-To-Wear" aka "Pret-a-Porter" over the weekend with my wife. 
    She didn't like it, I rather did.  EsPEcially seeing Sophia Loren who
    looked absolutely SMASHING, and the fashion-show-to-end-all-fashion-
    shows at the end of the moompitcha.  Something to write home about
    fersure!!
    
52.230Blockbuster Video, WOW, what a nightmare.SCAPAS::GUINEO::MOOREI'll have the rat-on-a-stickWed Dec 28 1994 04:0914
    .227
    
    "...That's why my Blockbuster membership is invaluable."
    
    They used to be a BIG client, and are still, as far as the movie stores
    are concerned (they're now owners of Spelling (proud inventors of
    the 'Love Boat'), as well as a large string of music stores
    (Blockbuster Music, Camelot, blahblah).
    
    Too bad their upper management opted (in a political move) to use
    an IBM-based store polling system (i.e. price updates go out, POS
    data comes in).  I heard a sales-dog barking about their travails
    today re: their IBM-based system.  Too bad they had to lay off 100
    Dallas-based people by January 31 to prove they were "right".
52.231Video SignalsPOWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of EcstacyWed Dec 28 1994 11:269
    
    I prefer Video Signals in Stow/Acton/Acton II/Boxboro/WestBoylston/Sudbury.
    
    They let you keep the movies for x nights = number of movies + 1 up to 7 
    nights (other than new releases) and calculate 3 nights from Monday as
    Thursday, unlike Blockbuster who calculates 3 nights from Monday as
    Wednesday.
    
    I have no financial interest, bla bla bla.
52.232The Cowboy Way - Good silly entertainment IMOCONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantThu Dec 29 1994 15:297
    Watched The Cowboy Way last night and laughed my no so little rear end
    off more than once.  For moi, it was truly entertaining.  No real
    memorable acting talent per se but I was in the need for being
    entertained and I was.  Not a bad pick if you are in need of an unserious
    semi action adventure comedy flick with horses and sheep.  
    
    Brian 
52.233POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Dec 29 1994 15:293
    Sounds like a movie for Gene. 
    
    ;-)
52.234CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantThu Dec 29 1994 15:365
    Well, since you brought it up.... I was thinking the same thing myself
    when I was watching the little cowpokes (sheeppokes?) at the beginning
    having their sheep ride demolition derby but I wasn't going to mention 
    it.  
    
52.235GAVEL::JANDROWRaquelfThu Dec 29 1994 16:007
    
    onmigod!!!  last weeq or so, steve and i rented it cuz i heard good
    things about it...and  in the begining, the little boys have  a little
    rodeo (not the qind tine and deb have) and they are riding sheep!!  and
    i said something to steve about gene and sheep, but he was clueless on
    the matter...anyway...i liked the movie...i was rather entertained. 
    woody harrelson is quite the comic...
52.236CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanMon Jan 02 1995 02:119


 Watched "The Last Action Hero" with my son Scott last night...kinda fun.




Jim
52.237ODIXIE::ZOGRANTestudo is still grounded!Mon Jan 02 1995 03:393
    Saw "SPEED" last night.  Okay, I guess.
    
    Dan
52.238CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue Jan 03 1995 00:4212



 Rented Maverick tonight...loved it the first time I saw it in a theatre, and
 liked it just as much on the small screen (though the scenery was much better
 on the big screen).




 Jim
52.239Talk HardSNOC02::MACKENZIEKo...ex-SUBURB::DAVISMTue Jan 03 1995 00:553
    Went to see "Interview With A Vampire" last week.
    
    Hmmmmmm, wanna be one now !
52.240POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of EcstacyTue Jan 03 1995 02:142
    
    "Life of Brian" New Year's Eve 8^).
52.241WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jan 03 1995 09:2111
    Rented:          (rated on a scale of 1-10)
    
            1) The Client -- Entertaining * 6
    
            2) China Moon -- Entertaining * 7
    
            3) Remains of the Day -- Okay * 6 (not my kind of movie)
    
            4) Blown Away -- Very Entertaining * 8
    
    Chipo
52.242WAHOO::LEVESQUELAGNAFTue Jan 03 1995 10:441
    The Jungle Book. Good movie.
52.243CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Jan 03 1995 14:2112
    Rented City Slickers II and Jurassic Park (just to see the lawyer
    chomp) N.Y.E. 
    
    City Slickers II was one of the most frustrating movies I have ever
    watched.  The characters were annoying at best.  The humor was rehashed
    C.S. I.  Trash.  
    
    J.P. was J.P.  Missed most of it as we turned it off to watch the ball
    drop and then I went to bed.  The rest of the folks watched it through
    though.  I may still rent it again as I found it enjoyable.
    
    Brian
52.244PNTAGN::WARRENFELTZRTue Jan 03 1995 14:242
    saw Mark Twain & Me, The Fugitive, The Freshman and Bridge Over the
    River Kwai on video while on holiday. 
52.245MPGS::MARKEYAIBOHPHOBIA: Fear of PalindromesTue Jan 03 1995 14:2832
    I saw "Blown Away" last night. Not very good, in my opinion.
    
    First, I'm usually not all that picky, but I really got bothered
    by the "details" in this film. Minor things like the supposed
    Boston Police Bomb Squad responding to a call at MIT... which
    is in the city of Cambridge (besides, if someone told me there
    was a bomb in Cambridge, I'd be tempted to say "it's about
    time!!!" :-)
    
    Next was a scene where the bomb setup was some elaborate thing
    hooked up to a computer... and the victim had to keep typing
    or the bomb would explode. So, they hook up another keyboard
    through a switch-box and have a robot type on it!!! Duh!!!
    A keyboard has a micro in it boneheads! Put in a new ROM that
    pretends to type.... you don't need a robot!
    
    Then, how come this mad bomber _always_ used a red wire for
    ground? (when in fact, international standards indicate that
    if a solid red wire is used in a circuit that it indicates
    "hot")... and how come he only builds bombs with one ground?
    Here's a hint: real bombers don't use color code at all.
    They generally don't like someone mucking with their creations.
    
    I know, you think I'm being anal. But look, if you're going
    to make a movie based on inadequate characters and mediocre
    performances, at least get _something_ right.
    
    A piss-poor 3.
    
    -b
    (who was at Copley watching them film the bomb in the truck
    sequence)
52.246WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jan 03 1995 15:3111
    -.1 can you say movie? I guess I'm partial to Jeff Bridges. I
      thought daddy Lloyd played a good role as well.
    
      BTW, red isn't hot here, is it? I thought green was hot, balck was
      ground, and why would a bomber (who generally exhibits very individual
      signatures about his work) follow convention. 
    
      I do the very same thing with WWII movies. You can always pick out
      a # of faux pas, but I still find entertainment value.
    
      Oh well... Chip
52.247CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Jan 03 1995 15:396
    	Saw a few over the weekend.
    
    	Homeward Bound.  (Oh, Peter.  I'm here to protect you!)
    	Little Man Tate.
    	Walt Disney's Treasure Island.
    	Shadowlands.
52.248MPGS::MARKEYAIBOHPHOBIA: Fear of PalindromesTue Jan 03 1995 15:4316
    As I said, I thought the performances were lame. So fine,
    I've seen a lot of good movies with lame performances...
    they were good because they had other things going for
    them.
    
    Except for some mildly interesting pyrotechnics this was
    strictly by the numbers... almost as much as the Star
    Trek films, you could predict exactly what would happen,
    who was gonna git blowed up next, ect. ect. ect.
    
    I wonder though if that stunt-person really did manage to
    get completely out of the way of those cars at the end...
    that was a pretty hairy "gag" as they call it in the
    stunt trade.
    
    -b
52.249POLAR::RICHARDSONTue Jan 03 1995 15:478
    >    that was a pretty hairy "gag" as they call it in the
    >    stunt trade.
    
    
    What would this be called in another trade?
    
    ;-)
    
52.250MPGS::MARKEYAIBOHPHOBIA: Fear of PalindromesTue Jan 03 1995 15:516
    It would be called, incorrectly, a stunt. For some reason
    which is beyond my comprehension "stunt(persons)" perform
    "gags". I suppose this would be OK if comedians performed
    "stunts"...
    
    -b (the troubled)
52.251POLAR::RICHARDSONTue Jan 03 1995 15:531
    For 50 bucks it wouldn't.
52.252HAAG::HAAGTue Jan 03 1995 16:392
    if you want some laughs check out "lords of flatbush". it was made
    before stallone and winckler were stars and is very entertaining.
52.253GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERyup, it's a watchamacallitTue Jan 03 1995 16:554
    
    
    
    The punch does have kind of a wang to it...........
52.254re .240 kindred spirits...LJSRV2::KALIKOWNotes, NEWS: old; GroupWeb: NEW!Tue Jan 03 1995 17:537
    Also took in "Life of Brian" over the HollyDaze, but not on New Year
    Zeeb itself...  We were at our traditional venue, with our traditional
    daughter, her hubby, and his folks, at Ye Olde Harvard Clubbe on Comm
    Ave in Baahstyyyn, watching the superannuated investment bankers try to
    frug (with) each other.  But after we recovered, Life of Brian was, as
    ever, wonderful...
    
52.255SASSON::MWANNEMACHERyup, it's a watchamacallitTue Jan 03 1995 18:026
    
    
    
    Saw some of it meself, Dr Dano.  Twas on the comedy channel.  Going to
    have to look at the whole thing again from the local video, dat's fer
    sure.
52.256USAT05::BENSONTue Jan 03 1995 19:109
    saw "the santa clause".  it was a pretty good variation of the formula
    theme.  tim allen is appealing.  some of the f/x props were bad or too
    obvious.  when the sleigh goes off the roof the first time, the rails
    it's riding on are clearly visible.  and his fat costume is terrible
    around the neck.  in general it had a sort of "cheap" feel to it, which
    i'm not accustomed to from disney.  but its topped $130 million this
    weekend.
    
    jeff
52.257MPGS::MARKEYAIBOHPHOBIA: Fear of PalindromesTue Jan 03 1995 19:1311
    RE: Santa Clause
    
    Number 5 at the 1994 box office overall too...
    
    #1 Forest Gump
    #2 Lion King
    #3 True Lies
    #4 Flintstones (why, I don't know, I thought the movie blew chunks)
    #5 Santa Clause
    
    -b
52.258CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue Jan 03 1995 19:174


 Yes, Flintstones was quite disappointing...
52.259SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareTue Jan 03 1995 19:343
    flintstones blew BIG chunks.  it was so bad that even the opportunity
    to ogle large expanses of halle berry's delectable skin didn't redeem
    it.
52.260GMT1::TEEKEMAThe ultimate experiment gone bad !!Tue Jan 03 1995 19:365
	Saw the new Jungle Book from Disney.

	It was a lot better than I expected and my kids can't
stop talking about it.
52.261SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareTue Jan 03 1995 19:483
    did they set it in india, where kipling set his version?  i've been
    watching the promos, but i can't figure out why mowgli's accent isn't
    anything like an indian accent.
52.262DTRACY::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Jan 03 1995 19:4922
    Re: .242
    
    >The Jungle Book. Good movie.
    
    Any movie with Cary Elwes _and_ Jason Scott Lee has got to be worth at
    least a matinee....
    
    
    Re: movies
    
    Over the holidays, I saw _Little Women_ (well done, but probably not
    too interesting if you didn't enjoy the book) and _IQ_ (predictable,
    but sweet and funny, with Meg Ryan and Tim Robbins being adorable). 
    Also saw _The Mask_ again (Jim Carrey _is_ a cartoon, so it worked
    quite nicely).  Finally saw _The Crow_ on video (an okay revenge film,
    but more atmosphere than anything else), also _Inherit The Wind_ (too
    much speechifying, of all things...), _The Philadelphia Story_
    (classic), _The Hunt for Red October_ (the sub fight is surprisingly
    suspenseful, for all that it's preposterous), and _The Fugitive_ (Tommy
    Lee Jones is the Big Dog all right).  Unusually light on theater
    viewings this year, but one of my regular movie cohorts was down with
    the flu.
52.263GMT1::TEEKEMATip toeing through the Tulips......Tue Jan 03 1995 19:517
	It is set in India.

	Mowgly speaks no English when he is found in the Jungle
and is taught English the british way during the movie. The process
of teaching him is quite amusing. The other Indian's speak the india
type of english (somewhat exagerated).
52.264SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareTue Jan 03 1995 20:005
    .263
    
    > taught English the british way during the movie.
    
    bwahahaha!  it is as i feared, effendi.  they screwed it up.  badly.
52.265WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jan 04 1995 10:385
    Lion King now #1 on a late surge to overtake FG. Saw it last night.
    Something to do with the holidays, kids bein' home from school, and
    multiple "sit-thrus". Of course, this could always be a media hoax.
    
    Chip
52.266CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantWed Jan 04 1995 18:297
    Watched the Client last night while sitting with a sick friend.  It was
    better than I expected though I wanted to smack the kid more than once. 
    Always enjoyed Susan Sarandon, thought she was cast well in the role as
    Reggie Love.  It was okay, glad I waited to rent it versus seeing it at
    the theater.  I would recommend it.
    
    Brian 
52.267WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Jan 05 1995 09:523
    agreed Brian... i'd like to enjoy SS (one of my favorites). the
    kid definitely needed a dummy-slap 'specially when he wanted to
    confirm the body.
52.268PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsThu Jan 05 1995 12:537
	the client

	another dud.  extremely contrived.  mediocre acting.
	if it hadn't been for tommy lee jones, it would have been
	totally worthless.  and easty was right - grisham sux.

52.269OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Thu Jan 05 1995 16:499
    Re: .268
    
    About the only things the movie had in common with the book were the
    names of the characters and the fact that the kid knew where the body
    was.  The whole relationship between Reggie and the kid was different,
    and Foltrigg was an unredeemed politician.
    
    Grisham writes pulp fiction.  It's good for entertainment value, but no
    one will call it literature.
52.270PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsThu Jan 05 1995 17:025
    
 >>   Grisham writes pulp fiction.  It's good for entertainment value, but no
 >>   one will call it literature.

	having read "The Firm", i concur.
52.271POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Jan 05 1995 17:044
    The Firm was a good movie though. I thought it was going to be a dud,
    but it surprised me.

    Glenn
52.272the firmPENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsThu Jan 05 1995 17:053
	gak.  the book was at least better than the movie.

52.273PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingThu Jan 05 1995 17:068
    Negative.
    
    The ending in the movie version of The Firm was *much* more plausible
    than that of the book.
    
    One of the few movies I thought was superior to the book.
    
    Mark.
52.274chacun a son goutPENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsThu Jan 05 1995 17:073
	well, there's no accounting for taste, as they say.

52.275MPGS::MARKEYI most definitely think I mightThu Jan 05 1995 17:089
    "With Honors"
    
    Starring Joe Pesci and Brendan Frasier.
    
    An excellent example of what you get when you give a whining
    liberal a movie budget. A total turd of a film. Everyone
    involved _should_ be homeless.
    
    -b
52.276POLAR::RICHARDSONThu Jan 05 1995 17:083
    Perhaps it was because I thought it was going to be a complete dud.
    
    Can't help it, i liked it.
52.277PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsThu Jan 05 1995 17:136
  >>  Perhaps it was because I thought it was going to be a complete dud.

	that about sums up how pitiful the movie industry has become.
	if it's not a complete dud, we're surprised.

52.278CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanThu Jan 05 1995 17:149


 I was really enjoying The Firm until the end..I never read the book though..




Jim
52.279"Lion King" better than my medium expectationsDECWIN::RALTOSuffering from p/n writer's blockThu Jan 05 1995 17:2424
    We finally got around to seeing "The Lion King" over the holidays.
    It was beautifully animated, but aside from the nice daddy and
    evil uncle, it seemed to me that the characters weren't very
    well defined, particularly the "lead" Kimba, whoops I mean
    Simba.  :-)
    
    He aged pretty quickly there, too.  I was hoping the aging would
    be more gradual, the way "Rudolph" grows in his annual Christmas
    special.  The second half of the movie seemed to be rushed, as if
    they were running out of ink and had to finish.
    
    But in general, it was much better than I'd been expecting, and now
    I'll have to go and try to find videos of the old "Kimba" series.
    
    Beware:  if you see a Disney film anytime soon, you will most likely
    be a captive audience to a looooooonnnngggg (over four minutes) trailer
    from an upcoming in-the-works Disney animated feature.  Since you're
    not supposed to know who the characters are until the "surprise
    ending" title flashes on the screen, I won't give it away here.
    
    Hint:  the guy is not a cartoon rendering of Fabio, though one wonders
    if he was the model.
    
    Chris
52.280Pocahontus?USAT05::BENSONThu Jan 05 1995 17:341
    
52.281I Liked Jungle BookLUDWIG::BARBIERIGod cares.Thu Jan 05 1995 18:5212
      I saw Jungle Book and thought it was really good too.  I 
      thought Lion King was ok.  I didn't think it was anything
      great and don't understand its enormous success.  Wouldn't
      rate it nearly as high as Alladin and Beauty and the Beast
      (which is my favorite Disney).
    
      A couple months ago I saw the Shawshank Redemption and I 
      really liked it a lot.  Some of it seemed a little unrealistic
      to me, but I didn't mind.
    
      Next year, Disney will do Pocahontus and the year after that
      The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
52.282SMURF::BINDERgustam vitareThu Jan 05 1995 18:566
    .280
    
    Pocahontas
            ^
    
    no need to thank me.  :-)
52.283AKOCOA::DOUGANThu Jan 05 1995 19:134
    Ready to wear - ho hum except the last scene.  Last scene I noticed
    anyway...
    
    To live - great
52.284PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsFri Jan 06 1995 16:207
	"blown away"

	purty good.  tommy lee jones is always such a joy to watch.
	wish they hadn't done the slow motion thing as much as they
	did, but otherwise, a decent flick.

52.285POLAR::RICHARDSONFri Jan 06 1995 16:251
    on video yet?
52.286PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsFri Jan 06 1995 16:265
>>    on video yet?

	yes, sir.  i almost never go to the movies.

52.287both actors are quite young in this one - early 70's?TROOA::TRP109::Chrislike discovering plutonium by accidentFri Jan 06 1995 17:114
	One of my favourite Jeff Bridges movies can usually be caught
	every couple of months at some ungodly hour (what makes an hour
	ungodly anyway - a TTWA)- the movie is "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot"
	and also stars Clint Eastwood.
52.288CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanFri Jan 06 1995 17:149


 I loved Thunderbolt and Lightfoot..




Jim
52.289TROOA::TRP109::Chrisdiscovering plutonium by accidentFri Jan 06 1995 20:443
	<-----------

	You are obviously a man of good taste   :*)
52.290WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 09 1995 09:473
    me too, but i thought the real star was the ordinance!
    
    Chip
52.291POLAR::RICHARDSONSun Jan 15 1995 21:5113
    Well, I rented one of the most heart warming movies I've ever seen.

    "Rudy"

    What a great movie. A true story.

    The first time I watched it, I was choking back the tears. I watched it
    again today and I balled my eyes out. 8,-}

    If you like an underdog beats the odds type of story and you like
    football, you'll love this movie. 

    Glenn gives this one 2 thumbs up and then some!
52.292Fun with tpyos: "I balled my eyes out."LJSRV2::KALIKOWUNISYS: ``Beware .GIFt horses!''Sun Jan 15 1995 21:542
    Tnx Glenn!!
    
52.293POLAR::RICHARDSONSun Jan 15 1995 22:011
    Oooops.
52.294Maverick The PaperASABET::EARLYWhy plan a comeback? Just do it!Mon Jan 16 1995 11:5115
    Over the weekend I rented:
    
    THE PAPER - With Tom Hanks and Glen Close. Good flick about the
    newspaper game. A fair amount of humor, moves along pretty good, enough
    action, and a decent story. I would recommend it.
    
    MAVERICK - With Mel Gibson, Jodie Foster, and the guy who used to star
    in the "Rockford Files" (the neurons responsible for accessing that
    portion of the memory bank are just not firing today.) Very
    entertaining if you're in the mood to be entertained ... i.e., not in
    the mood to watch a serious movie. I liked it a lot, 'cause by the time
    the weekend comes I don't want to take ANYTHING serious! 
    
    
    
52.295MAIL2::CRANEMon Jan 16 1995 12:082
    .294
    That would be James Gardner [sic]. 
52.296WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceMon Jan 16 1995 12:101
    Garner
52.297MAIL2::CRANEMon Jan 16 1995 12:142
    .296
    Thank you.
52.298ASABET::EARLYWhy plan a comeback? Just do it!Mon Jan 16 1995 12:332
    I knew you guys would know.
    
52.299CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanMon Jan 16 1995 12:4816
    
>    MAVERICK - With Mel Gibson, Jodie Foster, and the guy who used to star
>    in the "Rockford Files" (the neurons responsible for accessing that
>    portion of the memory bank are just not firing today.) Very
 

     The guy who used to star in the Rockford files also used to star
     in Maverick.





   Jim    
    

52.300CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanMon Jan 16 1995 12:494


 Snarf Wars
52.301BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeMon Jan 16 1995 13:409
52.302BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeMon Jan 16 1995 13:428
| <<< Note 52.294 by ASABET::EARLY "Why plan a comeback? Just do it!" >>>


| THE PAPER - With Tom Hanks and Glen Close. 


	I thought it was Micheal Keaton who starred in that movie and not Tom
Hanks.....
52.303MPGS::MARKEYHoist the Jolly Roger!Mon Jan 16 1995 14:213
    It was Michael Keaton...
    
    -b
52.304ASABET::EARLYLose anything but your sense of humor.Mon Jan 16 1995 14:306
    RE: .302
    
    ...er  umm  .. blush ... yah it was Michael Keaton.
    
    Only Monday an' I already made a mistake.
    
52.305WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 16 1995 14:416
    rented House of the Spirits this weekend w/Jeremy Iron, Meryl Streep
    Glen Close, Wynona Ryder.....(sorry for any sp errors)
    
    Very good movie - Recommend this one.
    
    Chip
52.306CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Mon Jan 16 1995 15:393
    	Princess Bride.
    
    	Never saw it before.  Glad I finally got to.
52.307MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Jan 16 1995 16:254
re: .-1, Joe

How did it compare with the script published here in the 'box?

52.308CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Mon Jan 16 1995 17:503
    	I didn't see the script.  
    
    	Pointers?
52.309MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Jan 16 1995 17:512
Oh, well, it was in "Lines from the movies", either this 'box or last . . . 

52.310WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Mon Jan 16 1995 17:573
    The Omen.
    
    Slickly done -- and the late Lee Remick looking great.
52.311LJSRV2::KALIKOWUNISYS: ``Beware .GIFt horses!''Mon Jan 16 1995 18:296
    .310 now THERE's an image to conjure with!!! :-)
    
    Care to elucidate, just to forestall any incipient nightmares??
    
    |-{:-)
    
52.312WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Mon Jan 16 1995 18:421
    Even in death she looks good. ;))
52.313JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jan 16 1995 22:178
    The Paper - Lots of FOUL language, otherwise good movie.
    
    Rudy - Rented it almost 3-4 months ago.  My boys LOVED it, as did I. 
    Goes to show you "heart" counts for a lot!
    
    Maverick - GREAT movie, laughed myself silly.
    
    
52.314POLAR::RICHARDSONTue Jan 17 1995 11:501
    Rudy made me want to be a Catholic.  8^)
52.315GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERSpace for rentTue Jan 17 1995 13:287
    
    
    
    Saw a good one thins weekend, "The Saint of Fort Washington".
    
    
    Saw a real bad one as well, "Spank the Monkey".  
52.316oh dearPOWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Oral ExploitsTue Jan 17 1995 15:222
    
    <-- SPANK THE MONKEY?????
52.317Sorry for spoiling some of itGRANPA::MWANNEMACHERSpace for rentTue Jan 17 1995 15:438
    
    
    Yup, and what I found odd was theat the box had thumbs up reviews from
    some folks (Rolling Stone mag for one).  And indeed, there was a scene
    where our hero was indeed in the loo, giving it his best......until the
    dog scratched on the door and ruined the mood for him.  Of course the
    part where he and his mother got drunk and slept together was a real
    hoot.......
52.318MPGS::MARKEYHoist the Jolly Roger!Tue Jan 17 1995 15:454
    Oh my, that sounds like academy award material ... (if the
    cinematography was good :-)
    
    -b
52.319BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeTue Jan 17 1995 17:369


	Heard the Jerky Boys movie is coming out this week. Why do I get the
feeling it will be like their album (which my roomate has) and get old very
quickly into it???


Glen
52.320Spank the.... oh my!SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowTue Jan 17 1995 17:393
	Mike W --  what do you expect when you make your movie selections
		   from the little room behind the curtain at the video
		   store???
52.321GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERSpace for rentTue Jan 17 1995 17:426
    
    
    Hey, hey, hey..........the room isn't that little.
    
    
    Mike
52.322BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeTue Jan 17 1995 17:507
| <<< Note 52.321 by GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER "Space for rent" >>>



| Hey, hey, hey..........the room isn't that little.

	That's for sure.... you'd never get your head in if it was!
52.323SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowTue Jan 17 1995 18:185
How would I know?  I've never been in there, of course!

{look of astonished innocence}

All I know's there's a curtain, that's all.  That's all!!!
52.324CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Jan 17 1995 18:211
    Huge profits to be made from that little back room.  
52.325Wolf - two paws downCONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantWed Jan 18 1995 14:109
    Rented Wolf with Jack Nicholson/Michelle Pfeiffer.  Boring, slow,
    shallow, and too long with a lousy ending.  The seasons were all
    screwed up, Winter in Vermont but spring/summer in NYC?  I have never 
    been a M.P. fan myself but was disappointed in J.N.  He did make a good 
    wolf though.  Definitely in the "Glad I didn't waste the money to see 
    it at the theater" category.  Also in the "Shouldn't have wasted the 
    money to see it at home" category.  Almost as slow as The Two Jakes.  
    
    Brian
52.326POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Oral ExploitsWed Jan 18 1995 14:255
    
    I was browsing at the local video store last night (it sucked imnsho)
    and what did I see but _Spank(ing?) the Monkey_...
    
    No, I didn't get it 8^).
52.327GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERSpace for rentWed Jan 18 1995 15:254
    
    
    
    Did you read the reviews on it, Deb?  
52.328@8^)POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Oral ExploitsWed Jan 18 1995 18:423
    
    Naah, I just saw the box on the shelf, gave myself the V8 thwack, and said
    "Well bless my soul, this really IS a movie!"                            
52.329MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Jan 24 1995 16:144
Rented "Philadelphia" this past weekend. One of the few tapes I've rented
in the past several years which had me saying to myself, "Stop what you're
doing, sit down, and pay attention to the movie, Stupid!"

52.330Oldie but goodieDECWIN::RALTOGala 10th Year ECAD SW AnniversaryWed Jan 25 1995 13:0919
    In a bout of insomnia last night, I watched "Torpedo Run" on TNT,
    a WWII submarine movie starring Glenn Ford and Ernest Borgnine.
    
    Aside from the unfortunate constant reminder of "McHale's Navy"
    generated from Borgnine in a Navy uniform throughout the movie,
    I was wondering whether this movie was a portrayal of actual
    events (I came in shortly after the opening, so I missed any
    opening narrative there might have been).
    
    Essentially, the submarine "Grayfish" relentlessly pursued one
    of Japan's most important carriers (whose name escapes me), almost
    to the point of obsession.  I won't give away the ending or some
    of the goings-on during the film, but the events portrayed seem
    too "unreal" to have actually happened.
    
    It was mostly well-done (I've always liked Ford and Borgnine anyway),
    but the ending seemed strangely anti-climactic in spite of the events.
    
    Chris
52.331SMURF::BINDERgustam vitareWed Jan 25 1995 13:122
    if memory serves me, it did depict actual events.  dramatized for movie
    audiences, of course.
52.332In that case, I'm glad I stayed upDECWIN::RALTOGala 10th Year ECAD SW AnniversaryWed Jan 25 1995 13:294
    Wow, in that case, I'm extremely impressed with the Captain.
    I'll have to go do some research on this...
    
    Chris
52.333WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jan 25 1995 15:593
    was the ship the Yamamoto?
    
    Chip
52.334POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 16:075
    
    Watched _Much Ado About Nothing_ last night.  Other than a couple of rather
    silly visuals (the splashing in the fountain and the swinging on the
    swing bit), I very much enjoyed it.  For me, Shakespeare is definitely 
    meant to be seen and heard rather than read.  
52.33545777::ALEUC8Wed Jan 25 1995 16:085
    Terminator 2
    
    kid	 - "don't kill anyone"
    
    Arnie (puzzled) - "but that's what i do - i'm a terminator"
52.336If I saw it I'd probably recognize it...DECWIN::RALTOGala 10th Year ECAD SW AnniversaryWed Jan 25 1995 16:139
    re: Yamamoto
    
    I don't think so... but I had the TV turned down pretty low because
    it was so late, and although they must have said the name of the
    carrier twenty times, I never heard it all that clearly.  I think
    it started with a "G".  Someone had identified it as the primary
    carrier involved in the Pearl Harbor attack.
    
    Chris
52.337sub bookTIS::HAMBURGERNo fan of tactical TupperwareWed Jan 25 1995 16:198
I remember a book called "Run silent, run deep" gave many accounts of WWII
sub warfare. written by an ex-sub commander based on experiences of most/many
of the commanders he served with. I believe it discusses the sinking of the 
biggest carrier after a long pursuit. (been years since I read it so???)
Public Library for a starting point.

Amos
52.338MPGS::MARKEYWewease Woger!Wed Jan 25 1995 16:1923
    >Watched _Much Ado About Nothing_ last night.  Other than a couple of rather
    >silly visuals (the splashing in the fountain and the swinging on the
    >swing bit), I very much enjoyed it.  For me, Shakespeare is definitely 
    >meant to be seen and heard rather than read.  
    
    Kenneth Branaugh, Emma Thompson, Denzel Washington and Michael
    Keaton were all excellent.
    
    Keanu Reeves was laughably bad. Three strikes in a row (the
    other two being Dracula and Speed) for Keanu. I did like him
    in Point Break though...
    
    I watched it again last week while following the text of the
    play in the Yale Shakespeare guide... the variations between
    the movie and the original text were only slight, which
    surprised me.
    
    I find it easier to follow Shakespeare if I have the text,
    as some of the language usage is not immediately obvious,
    and it's nice to be able to look it up, particularly when
    you have an annotated guide like the Yale book.
    
    -b
52.339POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 16:212
    
    I have to agree about Keanu Reeves.  He was completely wooden.
52.340POLAR::RICHARDSONBelgian Burger DisseminatorWed Jan 25 1995 16:241
    Did he lumber around a lot?
52.341<-- 8^pPOWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 16:252
    
    
52.342MPGS::MARKEYWewease Woger!Wed Jan 25 1995 16:2826
    Watched "True Lies" earlier this week. Definitely enjoyed it.
    It has its silly and overdone moments, but that's par for
    the genre. The stars are Arnold Schwartzenegger, Jamie Lee
    Curtis and Tom Arnold.
    
    The story line is a secret agent whose wife thinks he's a
    computer salesman. She gets bored and has an affair with
    someone who _claims_ to be a secret agent. To teach her
    a lesson, Arnold uses his "real" job to set Jamie Lee and
    her boyfriend up. But Arnold and Jamie Lee get sucked into
    real espionage in the process.
    
    The way the bad guy was "offed" was truly unique. He was,
    um, fired. That's all I'll say.
    
    Tom Arnold was surprisingly good in his role as Arnold's
    spook side-kick. He definitely has a future now that he's
    wisely distanced himself from Rosanne.
    
    And Jamie Lee... look. Stop with the urban legends. The
    lady is sexy and all feminine. She has no dick, inside
    or out. She's married and has kids for gawd's sake, and
    frankly, most women who have squirted out a baby or
    two should look so good... :-) :-) I think she's a babe.
    
    -b
52.343POLAR::RICHARDSONBelgian Burger DisseminatorWed Jan 25 1995 16:321
    Arnold says "grab my hand!" a lot in this movie.
52.344POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 16:334
    
    ..."squirted out a baby or two"???
    
    Uh-b-b-bleah.
52.345NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jan 25 1995 16:351
LIke in "Alien?"
52.346POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 16:412
    
    I wish I hadn't just had lunch 8^p.
52.347MPGS::MARKEYWewease Woger!Wed Jan 25 1995 16:4313
    ..."squirted out a baby or two"???
    
    I was being facetious oh Dearest Mz. Deb. I've been around when
    two babies were squirted out (hopefully I was also around when
    they were squirted in, but that's another matter :-), and I
    can tell you that I'm glad I can't have babies (and no, you
    can't call me Loretta). It was much easier to discusss whether
    Cherry or Walnut sands better with the obstetrician (we really
    did this and I still hear about it).
    
    We concluded the answer is Cherry, FWIW.
    
    -b
52.348OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Wed Jan 25 1995 16:4310
    Re: .342
    
    >She has no dick, inside or out.
    
    I don't think that was ever claimed.
    
    >She's married and has kids for gawd's sake
    
    Adopted, as I recall.  Not that it matters.  Regardless of whatever her
    genes might (or might not) say, she is female.
52.349BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 16:456
| <<< Note 52.339 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Belgian Burgers" >>>

    
| I have to agree about Keanu Reeves.  He was completely wooden.

	I believe that's what Geffen has said on several occassions.... :-)
52.350POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 16:543
    
    I might find that funnier if I knew who Geffen was 8^).
                                                     
52.351POLAR::RICHARDSONBelgian Burger DisseminatorWed Jan 25 1995 16:561
    A gay man perhaps?
52.352BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 17:254

	I think it's Robert Geffen, head of Geffen Records, Geffen movie
productions, Geffen etc.... he's a billionare....
52.353DTRACY::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Wed Jan 25 1995 17:271
    David Geffen
52.354POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 17:282
    
    And his connection with Keanu Reeves is...?
52.355TROOA::COLLINSColour TV, and other household gods.Wed Jan 25 1995 17:295
    
    >And his connection with Keanu Reeves is...?
    
    That neither is an actor.
    
52.356POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 17:342
    
    Somebody is going to get {{{smaq}}}ed, and SOON!
52.357:-)MPGS::MARKEYWewease Woger!Wed Jan 25 1995 17:367
    OK, since no one else will answer you, I'll be glad to Mz. Deb.
    
    David Geffen prefers Cherry too.
    
    HTH.
    
    -b 
52.358POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 17:478
    
    I can feel the top of my hair whiffling in the breeze as all these
    replies go RIGHT OVER MY HEAD!
    
    Are you saying, obliquely, that David Geffen and Keanu Reeves are an item?
    
    I think my brain is set on 16 in a 78 world.
                                 
52.359BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 17:498


	I thought you had heard. They were supposed to have gotten married (a
Union) recently. It was on the radidio a couple of days back.


Glen
52.360POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 17:522
    
    Boy, see what you miss when you don't listen to the radidio?
52.361SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowWed Jan 25 1995 18:187
You're not alone, Debra.  I didn't know that Keanu Reeves and
David Geffen were a couple or married or whatever.  I did know
that Geffen was a mega-billionaire Hollywood type, though.

I'm surprised to learn that Keanu is an actual living person.
I thought he was one of those life-sized cardboard cut-outs
or sumpin'.
52.362NETCAD::WOODFORDDoin' The Thorazine Shuffle.Wed Jan 25 1995 18:2011
    
    
    RE: Cardboard cut-outs....
    
    No, but if you ever see a blow-up doll of him, LET ME KNOW!!  :*)
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
52.363UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonWed Jan 25 1995 18:2310
Is Keenue Reeves really gay? I always hear rumors that he is, but it
is never from a reliable source... where did this rumor that he and 
Geffen are "married" come from??? Any valid source?

Is it just me or do other people think that sometimes the gay community
spreads rumors about stars being gay??? Richard Gere comes to mind...
Also the various theories about Kirk and Spock being gay (I know, they are
not real people...)

/scott
52.364MPGS::MARKEYInvestor in Belgian JewelryWed Jan 25 1995 18:2614
    Is this _another_ urban legend? Can anyone provide proof that
    Geffen and Reeves are married; a reference that is not sold
    at Supermarket check outs would be nice...
    
    Both have been linked with various actresses over the years,
    and Geffen was at a party in NY last year with a fabulous
    looking woman model (I know, 'cause I was there... it was
    at Leona Hemsley's "Palace" Hotel and the purpose of the
    party was to celebrate the success of Peter Gabriel's
    Secret World tour.) [And tough if it appears I'm dropping
    names,  I just have evidence which contradicts the notion
    that David is shagging Keanu...]
    
    -b
52.365SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdWed Jan 25 1995 18:277
    
    re: last couple....
    
    I think WBZ reported it!!
    
    Yeah!! That's the ticket!!
    
52.366POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 18:313
    
    I don't personally care if Keanu Reeves is gay or not; he doesn't have
    a hairy chest.
52.367TROOA::COLLINSColour TV, and other household gods.Wed Jan 25 1995 18:337
    
    >...Geffen was at a party in NY last year with a fabulous
    >looking woman model
    
    Well, Rock Hudson married Doris Day.  Some people will go to certain
    lengths to preserve their privacy.  And, he could swing *both* ways...

52.368POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 18:343
    
    <-- Rock Hudson only married Doris Day in the movies.  He did marry a
        woman, though.					    	
52.369WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceWed Jan 25 1995 18:361
    David Geffen is openly gay, FWIW.
52.370SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras should be seen and not herdWed Jan 25 1995 18:374
    
    "Geffen" sounds a lot like what my cat does in the middle of the night
    after chewing on one of the plants...
    
52.371TROOA::COLLINSColour TV, and other household gods.Wed Jan 25 1995 18:373
    
    Shoot...who married Doris Day then?  Burt Reynolds?
    
52.372CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantWed Jan 25 1995 18:395
    David Geffen is openly gay or so I heard first hand on the radio. 
    Dunno bout Keanu Reeves and really do not care.  I find his acting bad
    either way.  
    
    Brian
52.373POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 18:396
    
    Naah, you're thinking of Dinah Shore, and I don't think Burt ever
    actually married her.
    
    Doris Day had, I think, 3 husbands.  I don't remember who they were, but
    I don't think they were household names.
52.374MPGS::MARKEYInvestor in Belgian JewelryWed Jan 25 1995 18:397
    >David Geffen is openly gay, FWIW.
    
    Well that was one hell of a drag queen he was with then. I've seen her
    on various "fashion reports" and she was also in a Victoria Secret
    catalog. I guess that must be what Victoria's Secret is! :-)
    
    -b
52.375WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceWed Jan 25 1995 18:401
    Mebbe they're just friends.
52.376MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Jan 25 1995 18:424
>    Doris Day had, I think, 3 husbands.  I don't remember who they were, but
>    I don't think they were household names.

I would have guessed Smiley, Happy, and Sunshine . . . 
52.377BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 18:5514
| <<< Note 52.362 by NETCAD::WOODFORD "Doin' The Thorazine Shuffle." >>>




| No, but if you ever see a blow-up doll of him, LET ME KNOW!!  :*)


	I'll bring mine with me Fried-day. Won't yer hubby get jealous?




Glen
52.378BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 18:575


	Why would the gay community need to spread false rumors? We would only
look bad in the end (no pun intended) if we did. 
52.379BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 18:587
| <<< Note 52.364 by MPGS::MARKEY "Investor in Belgian Jewelry" >>>

| and Geffen was at a party in NY last year with a fabulous looking woman model 

	He also told babawawa that he wuz gay on teeevee....

Glen
52.380BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 18:597
| <<< Note 52.366 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Belgian Burgers" >>>


| I don't personally care if Keanu Reeves is gay or not; he doesn't have
| a hairy chest.

	And that's something bad???? Personally, I like that in a man.... :-)
52.381BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 19:006
| <<< Note 52.368 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Belgian Burgers" >>>


| He did marry a woman, though.

	Yeah, haven't youse peoples seen McMillan & WIFE!!??
52.382MKOTS3::JMARTINI lied; I hate the fat dinosaurWed Jan 25 1995 19:013
    No but I saw McDonald and wife on Saturday Night Live!!
    
    Ronald McDonald was great!!!
52.383BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 19:029
| <<< Note 52.374 by MPGS::MARKEY "Investor in Belgian Jewelry" >>>


| Well that was one hell of a drag queen he was with then. I've seen her
| on various "fashion reports" and she was also in a Victoria Secret
| catalog. I guess that must be what Victoria's Secret is! :-)

	Pssssst.... Brian...... she could have been a real woman...... just
thought ya might like to know..... or maybe it was Mr. Reeves himself? :-)
52.384MPGS::MARKEYInvestor in Belgian JewelryWed Jan 25 1995 19:059
    >Pssssst.... Brian...... she could have been a real woman...... just
    >thought ya might like to know..... or maybe it was Mr. Reeves himself? :-)
    
    Oh she's quite real. _Exactly_ the type of woman I like. _Exactly_. I
    kept thinking "You luhky luhky bahstad", and to think he might not have
    appreciated giving her a good WMR. FOOOOOL! She was frighteningly
    babe-a-licious.
    
    -b
52.385POLAR::RICHARDSONBelgian Burger DisseminatorWed Jan 25 1995 19:082
    I'll be grievously troubled if I ever receive a Victor/Victoria's
    Secret catalog in the mail.
52.386CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantWed Jan 25 1995 19:142
    Um, Glenn?  Are you the only one in there these days?  If not, wouldn't
    this be most appropriate for you?  Just thought I'd ask.  :-)
52.387NETCAD::WOODFORDDoin' The Thorazine Shuffle.Wed Jan 25 1995 19:2114
    
    
    Glen!  Awesome!  Alan won't be jealous of a blow up doll...
    All I wanna do is 'look' at it.  :*)
    
    
    Anyone else coming friday night??  There are still a few 
    openings due to a couple of late cancellations...
    
    
    Let me know!!
    
    Terrie
    
52.388OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Wed Jan 25 1995 19:224
    David Geffen is openly gay.  I haven't heard anything about Keanu
    Reeves.  I haven't heard about any union.  You can bet that it will
    appear in _People_ magazine, should any such thing ever occur.  I'll
    believe it when I read it there.
52.389MPGS::MARKEYInvestors in fine Belgian jewelryWed Jan 25 1995 19:254
    Well, I'm out-gunned I guess. OK, Geffen is gay, with fabulous taste
    in women.
    
    -b
52.390NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jan 25 1995 19:271
Chelsea, you read People?!
52.391BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 19:303

	And you get your facts there???? 
52.392POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersWed Jan 25 1995 19:3412
| I don't personally care if Keanu Reeves is gay or not; he doesn't have
| a hairy chest.

	>And that's something bad???? Personally, I like that in a man.... :-)
    
    
    No no.  Read for comprehension, darlin' 8^).  I don't care if he's gay
    or not because he doesn't have a hairy chest.  If he DID have a hairy chest,
    I'd be sad if he were gay.
    
    I like the furry types 8^).
52.393POLAR::RICHARDSONBelgian Burger DisseminatorWed Jan 25 1995 19:361
    {bristle}
52.394CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantWed Jan 25 1995 19:421
    That would be me.  I have a pelt that helps to keep me warm :-).
52.395BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 19:4314
| <<< Note 52.392 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Belgian Burgers" >>>


| | I don't personally care if Keanu Reeves is gay or not; he doesn't have
| | a hairy chest.

| >And that's something bad???? Personally, I like that in a man.... :-)


| No no.  Read for comprehension, darlin' 8^).  I don't care if he's gay
| or not because he doesn't have a hairy chest.  If he DID have a hairy chest,
| I'd be sad if he were gay. I like the furry types 8^).

	Uhhhhh.... then I DID read it right.... ya see, I like them smoothies..
52.396NETCAD::WOODFORDDoin' The Thorazine Shuffle.Wed Jan 25 1995 19:4713
    
    
    RE: .....ya see, I like them smoothies......
    
    
    Oh well, I got big bumps.....sorry Glen....
    
    
    
    
    
    :*}
    
52.397MPGS::MARKEYInvestors in fine Belgian jewelryWed Jan 25 1995 19:486
    > .....ya see, I like them smoothies......
    
    Are we still talking about chests here? (or chest hair?) :-)
    
    -b
    
52.398OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Wed Jan 25 1995 19:528
    Re: .390, .391
    
    I subscribe to People, US (in a moment of extreme weakness),
    Entertainment Weekly, Rolling Stone, Time, Newsweek and Discover.  I
    also receive publications from the Smithsonian, National Musuem of the
    American Indian, and the Library of Congress.
    
    I get my facts from Soapbox....
52.399BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 19:5212
| <<< Note 52.396 by NETCAD::WOODFORD "Doin' The Thorazine Shuffle." >>>



| RE: .....ya see, I like them smoothies......


| Oh well, I got big bumps.....sorry Glen....


	But they ain't got no hair, errrrrrr..... ahhhhhh.... right? 

52.400BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 19:521
movie snarf!
52.401BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 19:538
| <<< Note 52.397 by MPGS::MARKEY "Investors in fine Belgian jewelry" >>>

| > .....ya see, I like them smoothies......

| Are we still talking about chests here? (or chest hair?) :-)

	Chest hair.... we're trying to find out if Terrie has any!

52.402MPGS::MARKEYInvestors in fine Belgian jewelryWed Jan 25 1995 19:541
    Oooooo. Are nipples involved? :-)
52.403Did I really say that?!?!?!?!NETCAD::WOODFORDDoin' The Thorazine Shuffle.Wed Jan 25 1995 19:5511
    
    
    RE: .399/.401
    
    Hey, I'm Italian.....I've got a few.....:*)
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
52.404BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 19:555


	yes they are involved Brian. I believe some people have different names
for nipples though.... 
52.405You hadda be there....NETCAD::WOODFORDDoin' The Thorazine Shuffle.Wed Jan 25 1995 19:5610
    
    
    Like  'tumor' ?????  HAHAHAHA
    
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
52.406BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Jan 25 1995 19:578


	That's the word Terrie!


Glen-who-was-there-for-the-telling-of-the-story-but-not-for-the-event

52.407Obscure Arnold ReferenceMPGS::MARKEYInvestors in fine Belgian jewelryWed Jan 25 1995 19:571
    "It's NOT a tumah!"
52.408NETCAD::WOODFORDDoin' The Thorazine Shuffle.Wed Jan 25 1995 19:584
    
    
    From Kindergarten Cop!!!!  I loved that movie!!!  :*)
    
52.409POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersThu Jan 26 1995 01:339
    
    .395
    
    Oh!  My apologies, Glen, I misunderstood you.  You see, my brain just
    couldn't process favoring smoothness over furriness 8^).
    
    (Honestly, I like chests of all sorts, so please don't be offended if 
    you're follicularly challenged in the chest region.  I just _prefer_
    having something to sink my fingers into 8^)) 
52.410MAIL2::CRANEThu Jan 26 1995 09:551
    So who is David Geffen? (I know I should have asked earlier but...)
52.411SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowThu Jan 26 1995 12:332
He's a Hollywood mogul/producer type.  Also founded
his own recording label, Geffen Records.
52.412POLAR::RICHARDSONBelgian Burger DisseminatorThu Jan 26 1995 13:132
    He also apparently likes men who are made of wood. Makes him beam from
    ear to ear.
52.413BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeThu Jan 26 1995 13:274


	Then why did he divorce Pinoccio?
52.414POLAR::RICHARDSONBelgian Burger DisseminatorThu Jan 26 1995 13:441
    He wasn't into nasal sex?
52.415BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeThu Jan 26 1995 14:014

	Maybe he wouldn't lie, tell a truth, tell a lie, tell a truth fast 
enough anymore. 
52.416POLAR::RICHARDSONBelgian Burger DisseminatorThu Jan 26 1995 14:121
    Or, perhaps he just looked down his nose at nasal sex.
52.417BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeThu Jan 26 1995 14:183

	hey, do ya think maybe he sneezed???? 
52.418...nasal sex?!POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersThu Jan 26 1995 14:411
    
52.419WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceThu Jan 26 1995 14:531
    Sounds like a Cyrano special.
52.420Weekend MoviesGIAMEM::HOVEYMon Jan 30 1995 12:078
    
       "True Lies" - Jamie Lee Curtis.....I'll look at her differently from
    now on...a definite babe, the call girl dance scene was great. Even my
    daughter was jealous looking at her physical condition. Pretty
    entertaining movie.
    
       "Wolf" - fell to sleep before the ending but the wife says there was
    no ending so I didn't miss much.....bad movie!
52.421GOOEY::JUDYThat's Ms. Bitch to you!Mon Jan 30 1995 14:4510
    
    
    	"Legends of the Fall"
    
    	Good flick...long (2.5 hours)...FANTASTIC scenery (it was filmed
    	outside of Calgary)....great looking men.  If you're a sap like
    	me, bring a kleenex.  
    
    	JJ
    
52.422WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 30 1995 14:479
    -1 True Lies i agree...
    
       also rented Mother's Sons with JLC... she played a very nasty mommie
       (in the buff a couple times)... anyone questioning her femininity
       ain't even close!
    
       rented A River Runs Through It - outstanding study!!!
    
       Chip 
52.423MPGS::MARKEYLlamas are larger than frogsMon Jan 30 1995 15:588
    >also rented Mother's Sons with JLC... she played a very nasty mommie
    >(in the buff a couple times)... anyone questioning her femininity
    >ain't even close!
    
    JLC gets naked and I missed it ?!?! I know what I'm feeding my
    VCR next time I go to Ballbuster, er, Blockbuster Video.
    
    -b
52.424CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantMon Jan 30 1995 16:022
    Blockbuster won't have it.  They don't rent dirty movies and neither
    should you.  :-)
52.425MPGS::MARKEYLlamas are larger than frogsMon Jan 30 1995 16:033
    Ummmm... I just wanna view the credits. Yeah, that's it.
    
    -b
52.426WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 30 1995 16:111
    my copy was ffree from any foreign matter... :-)
52.427I'd still kiss her...UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonMon Jan 30 1995 16:3020
>       (in the buff a couple times)... anyone questioning her femininity
>       ain't even close!

Nobody questions her "femininity"... sigh...

She has a condition where her chromosones are actually male. She would
have developed into a male had it not been for the slight problem that she
is insensitive to the male homormone... it has no effect on her body
therefore she developed as any human would by default, as a female.

However, since she is chromosonally a male, she didn't develop a full vagina
or uterus or ovaries... Instead she has a partial vagina (which looks fine
from the outside) and her testies stayed up insider her. She recently had
them taken out since, if left in, I believe they could become cancerous...

She has a daughter, adopted. She's married to Chistopher Guest from SNL and
Spinal Tap. She is one of a very few people with this condition known as
Male Hormonal Defeciancy (???)...

/Scott
52.428SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowMon Jan 30 1995 16:4110
Rented "Maverick" this weekend.  A decent, entertaining film
for a Saturday night.  Especially liked the character of
Joseph.

Also saw "The Mask".  Not stupendous, but okay for a $2.63 
rental.  Be sure to watch past the end of the closing credits
and catch Space Ghost's promo for his talk show on the 
Cartoon Network.  It had me in stitches.


52.429EVMS::MORONEYMon Jan 30 1995 16:445
Although I don't know if JLC really has this condition...

I read somewhere once that many of these "males" develop into truely
stunning women, and more gorgeous models and actresses have this
condition than you'd think...
52.430MPGS::MARKEYLlamas are larger than frogsMon Jan 30 1995 16:4515
    >Rented "Maverick" this weekend.  A decent, entertaining film
    >for a Saturday night.  Especially liked the character of
    >Joseph.
    
    I forget both the character's and the actor's name, but the guy
    who played the main villian in Maverick (who tried to hang Mel
    Gibson's character) was the guy in the opening scene in Indiana
    Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark... he's the guy with Indy
    in the cave as they go for the "lost idol"... the one who tries
    to steal the idol and strand Indy, only to end up with a spear
    stuck through his forehead.
    
    Just thought you'd like to know...
    
    -b
52.431POLAR::RICHARDSONhapless-random-thought-patternsMon Jan 30 1995 16:516
    I liked the scene where Danny Glover shows up to rob the bank. He gives
    Maverick a double take, removes his scarf, Maverick gives him a double
    take, then they both say "nah". As Glover is leaving the scene of the
    crime his mumbling "I'm getting too old for this sh**".

    Glenn
52.432OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Mon Jan 30 1995 16:526
    Re: .424
    
    >Blockbuster won't have it.
    
    Yes, they will; that's where I rented it.  "Mother's Boys" is a fairly
    standard psycho-thriller -- not outstanding, but worth renting.
52.433WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 30 1995 17:055
    beg to differ (again) Scott... the tone of some of the notes in the
    previous 'box certainly DID question her femininity... 
    none here (not yet, anyway).
    
    Chip
52.434GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERSpace for rentMon Jan 30 1995 17:081
    RE .431  That was hilarious, Glenn.  
52.435GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampMon Jan 30 1995 20:107
    
    
    saw 'disclosure' saturday nite...pretty darn good movie, i
    thought...demi looked great (as usual)...michael is getting old, but
    he's still got it...
    
       
52.436WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jan 31 1995 11:181
    -1 got what? :-)
52.437BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeTue Jan 31 1995 13:293

	"it", Chip. Aren't you paying attention!!??
52.438WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jan 31 1995 14:483
    Ooops, sorry... :-)
    
    Chip
52.439Nobody's Fool - big thumbs upTROOA::TRP109::Chrisif not now, when?Wed Feb 01 1995 12:3611
I went to "Nobody's Fool" last night, and Paul Newman most definitely still 
has *IT*.  He's a real life 70 year old, playing a 60 year, and could still 
pass as a 50 year old!  This movie was thoroughly enjoyable and I could have 
sat in the theatre for another 3 hours watching the same characters.  Paul 
flirts with all the women in the movie, including Jessica Tandy - great 
screen chemistry - what a loss her recent death is.  And I don't usually 
care for Melanie Griffith (her "little girl" voice sends chills down my 
spine), but she and Paul were charming together.  I bet it was a thrill for 
her to be sharing the screen with such a classy guy. Bruce Willis plays his 
usual smart-alecky stuff - I like the guy in most everything he has done 
(especially Pulp Fiction).  
52.440If you can feel, you healMOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Sun Feb 05 1995 13:414
Watched something called "Greaser's Palace" yesterday.

Rather odd little movie, to be brief.

52.441CSOA1::LEECHHIMon Feb 06 1995 12:559
    My folks rented Born on the 4th of July, so I got to see it when I came
    over for dinner.  One word describes it perfectly:
    
    depressing...absolutely and utterly depressing
    
    I rent movies to be entertained, not depressed.  If I want to be 
    depressed, I'll watch the evening news.  ymmv
    
    -steve
52.442POLAR::RICHARDSONWeird Canadian Type GeezerMon Feb 06 1995 14:131
    <---- I agree. I felt sick after watching that one.
52.443WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Feb 06 1995 15:123
    rented Mask... i'm not sure how i felt about it other than bizzare!
    
    Chip
52.444WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceMon Feb 06 1995 15:592
    Guarding Tess- amusing. I got a few laughs out of it. Worth the $2 for
    two of us.
52.445WELSWS::HEDLEYLager LoutMon Feb 06 1995 19:274
I was finally coerced into watching Jurassic Park recently.  What a load
of old bollocks.

Chris.
52.446PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsMon Feb 06 1995 19:336

	Jeff Goldblum was the best thing in it, I thought.  And the
	herd of running critters was decent.

	
52.447SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBe vewy, vewy caweful awound Zebwas!Mon Feb 06 1995 19:345
    
    Saw "The Mask" over the weekend...
    
     Best part of it was the dog...
    
52.448Not the cheese, the keys!SUBPAC::JJENSENJojo the Fishing WidowMon Feb 06 1995 20:004
The dog *was* the best character in "The Mask".

The Space Ghost interviews at the end of the
tape are a trip, too.
52.449OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Mon Feb 06 1995 21:245
    The dog was stealing scenes from Jim Carrey -- and that ain't easy.
    
    Speaking of Jim Carrey, Jeff Goldblum and easy, check out a little
    cotton-candy fluff of a movie called "Earth Girls Are Easy," also
    starring Geena Davis.  Loosely based on the Julie Brown song.
52.450CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Feb 07 1995 14:136
    Saw Mask last night.  It was just okay.  Effects were sort of cool and
    the story line was cute.  The detective was a putz and badly cast IMO. 
    I got a few chuckles out of it.  I am not sorry I missed it at the
    theater.  
    
    Brian
52.451SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBe vewy caweful awound Zebwas!Fri Feb 10 1995 13:364
    
    Rented "True Lies" last night....
    
    Shut my brain off (no wise cracks :) and really enjoyed it! 
52.452CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantFri Feb 10 1995 13:391
    Andy, you take all the fun out of it. :-)
52.453SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBe vewy caweful awound Zebwas!Fri Feb 10 1995 15:597
    
    <------
    
    Oh go ahead Brian....
    
    I'll accept one from you! :)
    
52.454PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsMon Feb 13 1995 13:056
	"Killing Zoe" - some good acting, particularly by Jean-Hugues Anglade.
	I happen to like the Tarantino style, so I thought it was decent.
	Beaucoup blood though, as usual.

 
52.455MPGS::MARKEYLlamas are larger than frogsMon Feb 13 1995 20:346
    RE: Chelsea and Earth Girls...
    
    I liked that movie too! Just a fun, goofy little flick with absolutely
    no point! Ya' need one of those every once in a while!!!
    
    -b
52.456PENUTS::DDESMAISONStoo few argsTue Feb 14 1995 12:294
	"Natural Born Killers" - Intense.  Woody and Juliette were good.
	It was clearly a Tarantino brainchild, but I can live without Oliver
	Stone's MTV-like mish-mash production.
52.457CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Thu Feb 16 1995 13:1913


 Watched "The Mask" last weekend..wouldn't have rented it for myself, but
 my son wanted to see it..not bad

 Watched "Clear and Present Danger" yesterday..enjoyed it.





Jim
52.458GOOEY::JUDYThat's Ms. Bitch to you!Thu Feb 16 1995 14:507
    
    
    	"Little Women"
    
    	Good flick.  And it's about time they're making movies long
    	enough to almost be worth the $7 it costs to go!
    
52.459WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Thu Feb 16 1995 23:016
    Just out of curiosity, were there any men in the audience 
    watching Little Women?
    
    
    
     
52.460MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Feb 17 1995 00:283
Pedophiles, every one, John.

:^)
52.461NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Feb 17 1995 13:064
I'm glad they've finally made a movie that has meaningful roles for dwarfs --
it must be the first one since "The Wizard of Oz."

Oh, "Little Women" isn't about dwarfs?  Never mind.
52.462OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Fri Feb 17 1995 16:089
    Re: .461
    
    >I'm glad they've finally made a movie that has meaningful roles for 
    >dwarfs --
    
    There was a movie called "Under the Rainbow," starring Carrie Fisher,
    among others.  It was about the dwarves and the making of "The Wizard
    of Oz."  There was also "Willow," in which the protagonist was a dwarf. 
    (It costars Val Kilmer, which is my primary reason for watching....)
52.463Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMAnd monkeys might fly outa my butt!Mon Feb 20 1995 02:414
    I watched a new movie on Saturday night, it was that good I have 
    actually forgotten what it was called !
    
    How annoying........
52.464Obviously:LJSRV2::KALIKOWTechnology Hunter/GathererMon Feb 20 1995 04:199
    Now Playing:
    
    PLEASE ENTER AND WE SHALL BEAT YOU ON THE HEAD
    SOLIDLY & CONTINUOUSLY, FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS
    
    Next question?
    
    |-{:-)
    
52.465WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Feb 20 1995 11:057
    ...watched the January Man with Kevin Kline, Suasan Sarandon,
       Alan Brinkman, Harvey Keitel, Maria Mastrianonnoooooo (or something
       like that), Danny Aiello... 
    
       i hadn't seen it in so long. i forgot how much i liked it...
    
       Chip
52.466RDGE44::ALEUC8Mon Feb 20 1995 11:084
    "Blue Steel" with JLC premiered on TV over here last night. a c**p
    film, but JLC was nice.
    
    ric
52.467ASABET::YANNEKISMon Feb 20 1995 15:0812
    
    Rented Patriot Games (yea I know 2 days before it was on TV) ... 
    
    not very good IMO.  The book was much richer as would be expected. 
    More troubling were wholesale changes in the plot, motivations, and
    roles.
    
    Maybe watching these movies requires watching the movie before reading
    the book?
    
    Greg
    
52.468CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Mon Feb 20 1995 15:095



 What was the name of the last (most recent) Dirty Harry movie?
52.469POLAR::RICHARDSONOoo Ah silly meMon Feb 20 1995 15:221
    The Dead Pool
52.470CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Mon Feb 20 1995 15:284


 Phew...thank you..
52.471OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Mon Feb 20 1995 17:508
    Re: .465
    
    >Maria Mastrianonnoooooo (or something like that)
    
    Mary Elizabeth Mastriantonio (I might have an extra "i" in there.) 
    Tonight I'll be watching "The Color of Money," in which she stars,
    along with Paul Newman and Tom Cruise.  Unless I watch "Ladyhawke"
    instead.  Depends on what kind of mood I'm in.
52.472POLAR::RICHARDSONOoo Ah silly meThu Feb 23 1995 13:3595
> From New York: It's quiet, yeah, TOO quiet ... it's THE TOP TEN
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> From the home office in Sioux City, Iowa ...
 
TOP TEN SURPRISES IN THE BRADY BUNCH MOVIE

     
10. Instead of Alice in the live-in maid, it's Kato the live-in
    houseboy
 
    
 9. Bobby gets sent off to an orphanage by Newt Gingrich

     
 8. Some dork with a bad hairpiece keeps asking the Bradys about
    their "brushes with the law"
 
    
 7. By the end, all three of the boys have been married to Roseanne

     
 6. Wacky new foreign cousin: Boutros Boutros-Brady
 
    
 5. The kids bear a striking resemblance to Mom's high school
    sweetheart, Bill Clinton

     
 4. Cindy grounded for two weeks after firing shots at the White House
 
    
 3. Every part is played by Paul Shaffer

     
 2. Gripping scene in which Mom O.D.'s and Dad plunges a hypodermic
    needle into her heart
 
    
 1. They keep "gettin' it on" with the Osmonds
 
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52.473GAVEL::JANDROWbrain crampThu Feb 23 1995 13:535
    
    
    ok...now it's in here twice...
    
    
52.474POLAR::RICHARDSONOoo Ah silly meThu Feb 23 1995 14:321
    Sorry, I didn't see yours before I put this in.
52.475WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceThu Feb 23 1995 15:083
    re: -1
    
     Sounds like a line from some porno movie featuring hermaphrodites.
52.476RDGE44::ALEUC8Thu Feb 23 1995 15:105
    .475
    
    hey where can i rent that ?
    
    ric$sicko
52.477CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantThu Feb 23 1995 17:123
    RE: .474
    
    Not only that, he didn't know you had already posted it.
52.478POLAR::RICHARDSONOoo Ah silly meThu Feb 23 1995 17:151
    Thanks little buddy.
52.479Talk hardSNOFS1::DAVISMAnd monkeys might fly outa my butt!Fri Feb 24 1995 01:122
    Jeeeeze..... How many times to I have to tell you it's Vertically
    Challenged.
52.480Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMAnd monkeys might fly outa my butt!Fri Feb 24 1995 01:131
    Oh <r.o> I just did it again, didn't I....
52.481CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Feb 28 1995 15:577
    Saw Natural Born Killers over the weekend.  Very disappointed.  A little
    to surrealistic for me.  
    
    Rented Cops and Robbersons as well.  A few laughs but dumb in the more
    recent Chevy Chase tradition.  
    
    Brian
52.482BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeTue Feb 28 1995 21:229


	Anyone see the Brady Bunch movie yet? They took the Brady's as they
were in the 70's, and brought them into the 90's. It was one of the funniest
movies I've seen in a long time.


Glen
52.483MPGS::MARKEYMother is the invention of necessityTue Feb 28 1995 21:275
    Did they keep all the group sex that's alleged to have happened
    behind the scenes too? Might even be worth seeing if they did...
    :-) :-) :-)
    
    -b
52.484MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Feb 28 1995 22:184
> It was one of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time.

And to think I wasted my time watching a rerun of Blazing Saddles . . .

52.485CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Wed Mar 01 1995 01:459


 I saw Brady Bunch over the weekend...loved it.




 Jim
52.486MAIL2::CRANEWed Mar 01 1995 11:163
    >483
    If they did it would have been X-Rated and the we woulda had to start a
    not along side of Traci Lord's and so on and so forth.
52.487BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Mar 01 1995 12:394

	Traci Lords playing Mrs. Brady? Now talk about having a use for Wesson
Oil! :-)
52.488WDFFS2::SHOOKthe river is mineMon Mar 06 1995 08:196
    
    playing on cable channel tnt this week is "the good old boys", starring
    tommy lee jones.  liked it a lot, and i think most others will too.
    better than most recent theatrical releases, i reckon.
    
    bill
52.489MPGS::MARKEYSend John Thomas some doughnutsMon Mar 06 1995 16:2728
    Two movies last night... had to do something while I was going through
    all my basses and restringing them and setting them up for a bunch
    of gigging I have coming up, so I set up a table in front of the TV
    and popped in a couple of tapes.
    
    First was John Candy's last movie, called Wagons East. The premise
    is a rag-tag bunch living in the west, who decide to return east
    (bucking the trend, I guess). Candy is hired as their "wagon
    master"; the person who leads the way. Ellen Green (of Little
    Shop of Horrors fame) plays the hooker with the heart of gold
    and the chest of titanium, Richard Lewis, in a real stretch
    plays a guy who whines a lot, a couple of the people from the
    new Star Drek farce are in it, and there's one absolutely
    precious performance by a guy who plays a General Custer type.
    Unfortunately, the credits didn't say who played what, so
    other than the obvious, I can't help you. The movie is not
    great, in fact, it's pretty lame. But, the General (or Colonel)
    was a riot and I would recommend the movie on that basis alone.
    There's some other funny scenes too, I won't spoil it. It's
    about a 5, especially since anything with Ellen Green in it
    is more than OK by me (yes, I find her attractive...).
    
    Then there was Wolf. Michelle Pfieffer looking ravishing.
    Jack Nicholson looking like he did in the Shining, and
    James Spader looking annoying. Not much positive to say
    about this film.
    
    -b
52.490SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideMon Mar 06 1995 16:324
        Ellen Green - yum.  "Suddenly Seymour is standing beside me..."

        &y
        
52.491BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeMon Mar 06 1995 16:594

	Brian, my roomate rented that a couple of weeks ago. I thought there
were some promising parts to the movie too. I LOVED the gunfight. :-)
52.492MPGS::MARKEYSend John Thomas some doughnutsMon Mar 06 1995 17:003
    
    Gee Glen, I wonder why? :-)
    
52.493BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeMon Mar 06 1995 17:023

	cuz it wuz funny?????? :-)
52.494SUBPAC::JJENSENNo! No! I am not the brain specialist!Wed Mar 15 1995 16:533
	Watched "Four Weddings and a Funeral" Monday night.
	Very dry humor....  I liked it.  Now I must hunt
	down Hugh Grant.
52.495NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Mar 15 1995 16:574
>	                                 Now I must hunt
>	down Hugh Grant.

Didn't Jake Baker get in trouble for stuff like this?
52.496POLAR::RICHARDSONbouncy bouncyWed Mar 15 1995 16:597
    Saw Forrest Gump last night.
    
    As much as I like John Revolta's performance in Pulp Fiction, I
    wouldn't mind seeing Tom Hanks win 2 Oscars in a row.
    
    Here's a trivia question, who was the last person to win 2 best actor
    Oscars in a row and what were the years?
52.497RDGE44::ALEUC8Fri Mar 17 1995 09:005
    .494
    
    good luck ! hope you succeed then i can hunt down Liz Hurley 8-)
    
    ric
52.498CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Fri Mar 17 1995 10:3611


 Last night a difficult conflict as to what to watch on the tube arose..Seinfeld
 (which I hate to admit has not been very funny lately) and "Who is Julia?",
 a tale about a woman who receives a brain transplant (and has to rate as one of
 the absolutely worst made for TV movies ever).  I stuck with Jerry, et al.



 Jim
52.499MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Mar 17 1995 18:1812
re: Brazil

I've tried to watch this several times.

Sometimes when I've tried to watch it, if I haven't had anything to
drink, I turn it off after a short while saying, "I must not be inebriated
enough to appreciate this." Other times when I've tried to watch it
after I've had a few, I turn it off after a similarly short while
saying, "I must not be sober enough to enjoy this".

Question:
     Just how pasted should one be to watch this film?
52.500CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantFri Mar 17 1995 18:211
    Try other forms of mood/conscious altering substances :-).  
52.501TROOA::COLLINSThe Forest City MadmanFri Mar 17 1995 18:3710
    
    Note 52.499

    >Question:
    >Just how pasted should one be to watch [Brazil]?
    
    Criminally so...
    
    :^)
    
52.502MPGS::MARKEYSpecialists in Horizontal DecorumFri Mar 17 1995 18:456
    Being more or less pasted will have no effect on one's ability
    to make sense of "Brazil". My suggestion would be to rent and
    watch Eraserhead first; Brazil will make sense by comparison,
    and you'll feel like you somehow "got it".

    -b
52.503TROOA::COLLINSThe Forest City MadmanFri Mar 17 1995 18:489
    
    Why I Liked `Brazil'
    by John (not Joan) Collins
    
    I liked `Brazil' because it was like `1984', except it was 
    at once both more frightening and much, much funnier.
    
    The End
    
52.504MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Mar 17 1995 18:555
I watched Eraserhead once years ago. I don't recall whether I was sober
or not at the time.

A Clockwork Orange has been about the same for me as Brazil.

52.505SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Mar 17 1995 18:565
    
    
    	A Clockwork Orange....classic piece.....
    
    
52.506TROOA::TEMPLETONSat Mar 18 1995 01:528
    My son brought home A Clockwork Orange once and suggested i stay out of
    the room, so of-course i watched it, maybe i am a little old and jaded
    but i did not find it as bad as they thought i would, i understood the
    premise behind the whole thing, i might even have spoilt it for the
    kids because i knew what was happening and they were hoping it would
    shock me.
    
    joan
52.507Read the book, it's betterCSEXP2::ANDREWSI'm the NRASat Mar 18 1995 18:585
    I just finished reading the book for my English class, and from what I
    can remember of the movie, they changed quite a bit.
    
    Most important change is that they left the real ending out of the
    movie.  The real ending is a lot different.
52.508CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantMon Mar 20 1995 11:597
    RE: A Clocwork Orange....
    
    It was a shocker in 1969-1970 or there abouts.  Most of the stuff in
    there is pretty tame by today's television standards.  It was a big
    cult film when I was in college. 
    
    
52.509SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIYap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!Mon Mar 20 1995 13:477
    
    "Clear and Present Danger"
    
     If you've read the book, don't waste your money...
    
    Total disappointment...
    
52.510CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantMon Mar 20 1995 14:092
    Yeah, I sort of agree unfortunately.  The book was good IMO the move
    sucked.  Did not care for the casting of Clark either.  
52.511MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Mar 20 1995 14:113
Watched Schindler's List yesterday, for the first time. Not the sort of
movie one is likely to forget soon.

52.512CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Mon Mar 20 1995 14:204


 I haven't been able to bring myself to watch that one.
52.513So good that I can't watch it anymoreAMN1::RALTOGala 10th Year ECAD SW AnniversaryMon Mar 20 1995 14:2411
    re: .503 "Brazil"
    
    Agree completely... it's on my "Top Ten Favorite Movies" list.
    However, I also find it intensely depressing and anger-provoking,
    so the copy that I received as a gift three or so years ago sits
    on the shelf in its original wrapper, to this day.  Every time
    I look at the box and think "Hey, I'll watch this tonight", five
    seconds later I say "Nahhh, I don't feel like getting that upset
    tonight".
    
    Chris
52.514A weird mix of sci-fi, nostalgia, and weird silly stuffAMN1::RALTOGala 10th Year ECAD SW AnniversaryMon Mar 20 1995 14:3119
    re: "Top Ten Favorite Movies"
    
    As long as I mentioned this in my previous reply, I might as
    well enter a "top ten" list here for the heck of it... some
    titles come and go over time, but these usually show up in
    the Top Ten, in no particular order:
    
    American Graffiti
    A Christmas Story
    Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
    Brazil
    My Favorite Year
    King Kong
    The Wizard of Oz
    2001: A Space Odyssey
    The Sound of Music
    The Trouble with Angels
    
    Chris
52.515GAVEL::JANDROWMon Mar 20 1995 15:5910
    >"Clear and Present Danger"
    >If you've read the book, don't waste your money...
    >Total disappointment...
    
    
    and don't watch it with andy...and i thought he was testy in the
    'box... :>
    
    
    
52.516MPGS::MARKEYSpecialists in Horizontal DecorumMon Mar 20 1995 16:0816
    Actually, I liked "Clear and Present Danger" on the screen;
    Tom Clancy's books are what annoy me. Too many characters;
    too much jumping from place to place; too damn big. Just
    tell the story Tom...

    The movie version had an excellent scene where they were
    ambushed in an alley, although it looked much better on
    a large screen. I also thought Willem Defoe was well cast
    as Clarke. My main complaint about the movie was the
    ending; very clumsy and anticlimatic... it started
    to go downhill once they "offed" the cuban intelligence
    officer...

    So what do I know? :-)

    -b
52.517CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Mon Mar 20 1995 16:1510


 Man, I agree with Mr. Markey, including his thoughts on the ending!





Jim
52.518GOOEY::JUDYThat's Ms. Bitch to you!Mon Mar 20 1995 16:226
    
    
    Watched "Airheads" on laser disc Friday night with some friends.
    
    	Was so stupid we laughed our a**** off .....
    
52.519SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIYap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!Tue Mar 21 1995 14:476
    
    
     Rented "StarGate" last night...
    
    Excellent flick!!! Good Special effects!
    
52.520POLAR::RICHARDSONI don't want to go on the cartTue Mar 21 1995 15:093
    I liked it too.

    What a pyramid club eh?
52.521I'd join!!! :) :)SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIYap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!Tue Mar 21 1995 15:171
    
52.522CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Mar 21 1995 15:314
    Rented Time Cop.  It was as expected, shallow, gratuitous sex and
    violence and perfect for non-cerebral entertainment.  
    
    
52.523UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonTue Mar 21 1995 15:339
>    Rented Time Cop.  It was as expected, shallow, gratuitous sex and
>    violence and perfect for non-cerebral entertainment.  
    
Gratuitius sex? There was 1 sex scene, but it was pretty mild by today's
standards... usually, when I think of gratuitous sex in movies, it's 
usually a Joe Bob drive-in movie, or a Sharron Stone/Maddonna flick...

/scott

52.524RDGE44::ALEUC8Tue Mar 21 1995 15:378
    .522, .523
    
    aw sh**, there i was having read .522 thinking "yes that's one for me"
    then i read .523
    
    8-(
    
    ric
52.525CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Mar 21 1995 15:425
    Scott is right.  It was right at the beginning though so it was off on
    the right foot oo-er :-).  The virtual reality clip wasn't too bad
    though.....
    
    Brian  
52.526OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Mar 21 1995 15:476
    Re: .523
    
    >Gratuitius sex? There was 1 sex scene, but it was pretty mild
    
    Are you thinking that "gratuitous" means "kinky" or "revealing"?  A
    scene is gratuitous if it's not something that advances the story.
52.527POLAR::RICHARDSONI don't want to go on the cartTue Mar 21 1995 15:531
    I've seen far worse movies than Time Cop.
52.528CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Mar 21 1995 15:531
    <---- what she said :-).  
52.529POLAR::RICHARDSONI don't want to go on the cartTue Mar 21 1995 15:544
    Who me?
    
    
    Ursula
52.530CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantTue Mar 21 1995 15:581
    now that you mention it, yes, you too Ursula.
52.531POLAR::RICHARDSONI don't want to go on the cartTue Mar 21 1995 16:005
    Well, you were pointing at me after all.
    
    {wink}{wink}
    
    Ursula
52.532UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonTue Mar 21 1995 16:069
>    Are you thinking that "gratuitous" means "kinky" or "revealing"?  A
>    scene is gratuitous if it's not something that advances the story.

hmm... I was thinking more along "excessive"... 

And I forgot about that VR scene... ;-)


/scott
52.533SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIYap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap! Yap!Tue Mar 21 1995 16:085
    
    RE: Time Cop...
    
      It wasn't too bad... except for not being able to or not trying to
    explain time travel paradoxes...
52.534POLAR::RICHARDSONI don't want to go on the cartTue Mar 21 1995 16:115
    Yes, the time riders would not be changed by the events they changed.
    That bothered me.
    
    That's why I think the Star Trek TTG episode "Yesterday's Enterprise"
    is the best time travel story I've ever seen.
52.535WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Mar 21 1995 16:444
    i rented time cop last saturday. i thought it was one of his better
    movies (not necessarily with the most action).
    
    Chip
52.536ODIXIE::CIAROCHIOne Less DogTue Mar 21 1995 19:473
    I guess when you refer to "gratuitous sex" in the 'box you should be
    very explicit.
    
52.537POLAR::RICHARDSONI don't want to go on the cartTue Mar 21 1995 19:571
    Not only that, you should describe it in as much detail as possible.
52.538WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Mar 22 1995 09:443
    ... but please do not provide tooooo much information :-)
    
    Chip
52.539CONSLT::MCBRIDEaspiring peasantWed Mar 22 1995 11:3524
    Okay, I'll recap the scenes for you all and you can decide whether or
    not it was gratuitous.  I have taken proper precautions to spare you
    the more graphic details.
     
    JCVD meets his wife in the mall.  They play a stranger to stranger pick
    up game and go off home as they both have the afternoon off.  (It get
    better I promise)
    
    The next scene we see a pan shot starting at JCVD's & movie wife's
    feet, naked and moving up the thighs where we catch a glimpse of JCVD's
    ######## and movies wife's #######!  They are entwined you see and he
    has his ###### near her ###### and they are about to ######.  They roll
    around a little kissing deeply etc. when you catch a glimpse of her
    ######s (which IMO were quite nice).  The phone rings and thye get up
    to get dressed and then the bad guys show up.  
    
    Later on @ Time Cop HQ, the resident computer geek is using the
    multibillion dollar hardware to play a VR sex scene with a very fine
    looking person of the female pesuasion.  It shows her on a bed, sans
    clothes and you can see her ######s quite clearly.  She is beckoning
    the computer geek seductively and there is full frontal ###### where
    the ######s and ####### are clearly visible.  
    
    Quite exciting really, neither had anything to do with the story.  
52.540Thumbs up!BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Mar 22 1995 13:037

	I saw Bye Bye Love last night. Pretty good movie. A little predictable,
but a lot of good laughs. It's worth seeing.


Glen
52.541TROOA::COLLINSIons in the ether...Wed Mar 22 1995 13:087
    
    Saw `Demolition Man' on TV last night...Stallone made a big mistake
    allowing them to cast Snipes and Bullock opposite him.  Made him look
    like a crash-test dummy.
    
    It was nae Scottish...
    
52.542OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Wed Mar 22 1995 15:531
    Wesley Snipes looks like he's having so much fun with that part.
52.543WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Mar 22 1995 16:275
    hey, do you think Dennis Rodman is a copy cat?
    
     :-)
    
     Chip
52.544BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Mar 22 1995 17:407

	Oh yeah, in, "Bye Bye Love", Ed Flanders has a part in it. Looks like
that might have been the last part he had before he killed himself. 


Glen
52.545CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Wed Mar 22 1995 17:4710


 while home yesterday I stumbled across an episode of St. Elsewhere..loved
 that show.




 Jim
52.546UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonWed Mar 22 1995 18:059
>	Oh yeah, in, "Bye Bye Love", Ed Flanders has a part in it. Looks like

Whose Ed Flanders and when did he kill himself??? Ned Flanders from the
Simpsons is causing a memory block...

Lisa plays her sax, and Ned says "Kids, do you know what that sound means?"
The kids look up in excitment "Judgement day!!!"

/scott
52.547BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeWed Mar 22 1995 18:3711


	SCREAM!!! That was great Scott! :-)

	Ed Flanders was on St. Elsewhere as Dr. Donald Westphal (sp deb?). The
one who wasn't the real old one, but the next in line for age. He always wanted
to help everyone, but he always seemed sad. 


Glen
52.548COSME3::HEDLEYCLager LoutWed Mar 22 1995 18:414
Dirty Dancing`s on the telly.  It looks just as crap as it did the first
two times.

Chris.
52.549OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Wed Mar 22 1995 19:203
    I'm kinda fond of that movie.  Of course, Patrick Swayze is way cuter
    than Jennifer Grey....  (And any movie with Jerry Orbach cannot be a
    total loss.)
52.550UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonWed Mar 22 1995 20:309
>	Ed Flanders was on St. Elsewhere as Dr. Donald Westphal (sp deb?). The
>one who wasn't the real old one, but the next in line for age. He always wanted
>to help everyone, but he always seemed sad. 

Ah... was he the one with the son who was autistic(sp?)...

When did he kill himself? Any reason given why he did it?

/scott
52.551CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Thu Mar 23 1995 01:3120

RE:              <<< Note 52.550 by UHUH::MARISON "Scott Marison" >>>


>Ah... was he the one with the son who was autistic(sp?)...

 Yes, although the final episode cleared that up.




>When did he kill himself? Any reason given why he did it?


 3 weeks ago perhaps?  No reason given.



 Jim
52.552BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeFri Mar 24 1995 13:1621
| <<< Note 52.551 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Friend will you be ready?" >>>


| >Ah... was he the one with the son who was autistic(sp?)...

| Yes, although the final episode cleared that up.


	Jim, you give this and leave them hanging..... :-)  The final episode
showed the snow coming down onto the hospital, and as the camera pulled back,
it was the autistic son (who now plays on Dr Quinn) looking into one of those
things with water that you shake and watch the snow happen (what is the name of
those things?) Westphal was still his father, but the older doctor was the kids
grandfather. AND, neither were doctors. The last thing Westphal said was
something like, "He's been staring into that all night. I wonder what he's
thinking about?" In other words, the entire show was from his son's
imagination. What puzzles me though is why would he imagine his father showing
his butt to his boss? :-)


Glen
52.553GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA member in good standingFri Mar 24 1995 13:509
    
    
    
    Saw Natural Born Killers last night.  Was okay, a lot of good evil
    conflict stuff going on, but there were some other things about the way
    things transpired that were too far fetched.
    
    
    Mike
52.554USAT05::BENSONEternal WeltanschauungMon Mar 27 1995 13:3816
    
    "Legends of the Fall".  Spectacular cinematography.  Anthony Hopkins
    great as somewhat embittered ex-military commander retiring in
    breathtaking western state.  He's raised three sons himself pretty much
    since wife is too sophisticated and can't live without the eastern
    civilization therefore stays in the east.  Three sons very close.  One
    passionate, sensitive and engaged to a beautiful, sophisticated Harvard
    girl who comes to western house.  Oldest boy follows all the rules. 
    Middle child (Brad Pitt) is wild, Indian-influenced, animal lover,
    hunter, etc. and of course, irrisistable.  All love the girl.  World
    War I.  Death.  Brothers hating each other, dividing loyalty of father.  
    And so on.
    
    It is an excellent film.  I recommend it strongly.
    
    jeff
52.555POLAR::RICHARDSONDesignated BaloneySat Apr 01 1995 18:058
    I heard that Brad Pitt has been cast in the role of a person with 24
    different personalities. Don't know the name of the movie.

    Somehow, the idea doesn't seem very original.

    Glenn/Deirdre/Pamela/Franny/Ned/Dierdre/Anton/Sean/Alice/Jimi/Pauline/Rex/
    Nathan/Melanie/Ursula/Hildegard/Nigel/Boutros Boutros/Leslie/Shareena

52.556ODIXIE::CIAROCHIOne Less DogSat Apr 01 1995 22:231
    "Stybble?"
52.557GAVEL::JANDROWMon Apr 03 1995 12:3510
    
    
    saw 'blown away' over the weekend...not a bad flick...tommy lee jones
    is everywhere these days, eh??  my biggest nit was the over-emphasis of
    the actors trying to speak with a boston accent...and i liked lloyd
    bridges as the old irishman...the beard looked good...
    
    and this forest whitaker dude...i know i have seen him before, and i
    haven't seen 'the crying game'...anybody know what other flicks he was
    in that i might have seen???
52.558For more or less, http://www.msstate.edu/Movies/PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Apr 03 1995 13:1615
   Unforgettable appearances by Forest Whitaker....
   
   Good Morning Vietnam  (Brizzzzzzzzzzzzizzzzzzzz)
   Bird.  (Title role)
   A Rage In Harlem
   The Crying Game
   
   Forgettable appearances....
   
   Fast Times at Ridgemont High
   Stakeout
   Platoon
   The Color Of Money
   (many more....)
   								-mr. bill
52.559BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeMon Apr 03 1995 15:1513

	I heard Brad Pitt's new movie is called,






                    The Life and Times of the Richardson's



52.560POLAR::RICHARDSONFan Club BaloneyMon Apr 03 1995 15:221
    The Richardson's what?
52.561BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeMon Apr 03 1995 15:242
	Pitt is doing your life stories my man! It will be interesting to see
how your other selves live. :-)
52.562POLAR::RICHARDSONFan Club BaloneyMon Apr 03 1995 15:261
    you mean selve's don't you?
52.563BIGQ::SILVASquirrels R MeMon Apr 03 1995 15:391
whatevvah
52.564GAVEL::JANDROWMon Apr 03 1995 16:109
    
    
    mercy buqets, mr. licea-kane...
    
    
    i think i was thinking of 'good morning vietnam'...
    
    now i can sleep tonite... :>
    
52.565TROOA::COLLINSArguing in my spare time...Wed Apr 05 1995 12:377
    
    Saw `Muriel's Wedding' last night.  In spite of the fact that there
    were NO robots, aliens, or the undead, it was still a pretty good
    flick.
    
    Can't get these ABBA tunes out of my head, though!
    
52.566CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenWed Apr 05 1995 18:083
    >>>>    Can't get these ABBA tunes out of my head, though!
    
    Reason enough not to see the movie.
52.567WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Apr 05 1995 18:146
    Awww, come on Brian... Waterloo!!! Aaaaaccckkk...
    
    Congrats on the mountain bike! Now go shred some woods and make sure
    you're wearin' your skid lid!
    
    Chip
52.568Billy Milligan Perhaps???STRATA::BARBIERIFri Apr 07 1995 16:4724
      re: .555
    
      I have no idea of who this movie is about, but I know who
      I WANT it to be about!
    
      A book came out perhaps 15 years ago called, "The Minds of
      Billy Milligan."  I thought it was an EXCELLENT book.  It
      was about an alleged multiple personality who just happened
      to have been the 'Campus State Rapist' (the campus being
      Ohio State).
    
      I really liked the book; the personalities this guy had were
      amazing and it might have been 22.  I know it was more than
      Sybil's 16.
    
      The author of the book was Daniel Keyes who just happened to 
      also write the short story "Flowers for Algernon" which made
      it to the big screen by the name of "Charly" (quite a movie,
      best actor for Cliff Robertson).
    
      Anyway, I hope thats who the movie is about and I'd like to
      reread the book.
    
    						Tony
52.569John HurtSTRATA::BARBIERIFri Apr 07 1995 16:5117
      I am curious as to the movies that John Hurt has played in.
      I always thought he was a fine actor.  He's the guy who played
      the drugged out British prisoner in 'The Midnight Express.'
      (Excellent role.)  He was the guy with the cat who had this 
      sick laugh and when the main guy asked how to escape, he just
      laughed and said, "Take the midnight express."
    
      He also played John Merrick (The Elephant Man) as well as 
      Caligula in the John Jakes classic I Claudius.  Excellent roles
      there as well.
    
      He's one of those guys that (to me) always does a really excellent
      job, but somehow is usually in the more obscure roles.
    
      What else has he been in?
    
    						Tony
52.570PENUTS::DDESMAISONSno, i'm aluminuming 'um, mumFri Apr 07 1995 16:596
>>      I am curious as to the movies that John Hurt has played in.

	"A Man For All Seasons"!!  He was Richard Rich.
	Excellent, excellent job.

52.571AlienHBAHBA::HAASrecurring recusancyFri Apr 07 1995 17:004
Hurt was also in the first Alien movie. He's the guy with the real bad
case of ingestion.

TTom
52.572NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Apr 07 1995 17:142
Not to be confused with John Heard, the actor, or Mississippi John Hurt,
the singer/guitarist.
52.573a sap and a folk singerHBAHBA::HAASrecurring recusancyFri Apr 07 1995 17:185
John Heard plays a really good sap in "BIG."

I discoverd Mississippi John Hurt through listening to John Fahey.

TTom
52.574MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryFri Apr 07 1995 17:194
    
    ... and I discovered John Fahey listening to Leo Kottke...
    
    -b
52.575SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVETS Palo AltoSat Apr 08 1995 17:535
    John Hurt- if I'm remembering the right guy, he was in "Kiss of the
    Spider Woman", and excellent in it; and in "Broadcast News", with
    Holly Hunter.  That wasn't as good.
    
    DougO
52.576GLDOA::SHOOKthe river is mineSat Apr 08 1995 19:153
    
    i believe you're thinking of _william_ hurt, who also played the
    burn-out in "the big chill".
52.577SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVETS Palo AltoMon Apr 10 1995 16:443
    ah.  ok, I think you're right.
    
    DougO
52.578PENUTS::DDESMAISONSno, i'm aluminuming 'um, mumMon Apr 10 1995 16:465
>>    ah.  ok, I think you're right.

	he is.

52.579MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon Apr 10 1995 16:504
    
    William Hurt: also of The Doctor, Altered States and Body Heat.
    
    -b
52.580TROOA::COLLINSDeep down deep, I'm shallow. :^)Mon Apr 10 1995 17:115
    
    Edward G. Robinson, in `The Ten Commandments':
    
    "It's that Moses guy, see?  He's messin' it up for ALL of us, see?"
    
52.581rating: one skunkWAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceMon Apr 10 1995 17:303
    Rented Maverick last night. Don't waste your money. A lame script, poor
    acting and horrible direction add up to a movie well worth panning. A
    true embarassment. Some nice outdoor scenery, but that was about it.
52.582CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Mon Apr 10 1995 17:4112


 I thought it was kinda fun...







 Jim
52.583WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceMon Apr 10 1995 17:431
    Sounds like a case of differing expectations.
52.584USAT05::BENSONEternal WeltanschauungMon Apr 10 1995 17:565
    
    I too was mostly disappointed with Maverick.  With the cast I was
    fairly certain it would be better written and acted.
    
    jeff
52.585CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Mon Apr 10 1995 17:5711



 Yep...certainly it wasn't worthy of an Oscar, but for me it was enjoyable,
 though I found the card game scene becoming a bit tedious.




Jim
52.586CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Apr 11 1995 16:323
    	Taped "The Sound of Music".  Taped over a previous TV showing
    	of it that we had.  This time it is uncut.  Has scenes that I've
    	never seen before.
52.587MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryTue Apr 11 1995 16:3811
    RE: .586 (Oooooh, Joe gets a Pentium snarf!)

    ... and the worst sound mix of any major motion picture
        I have ever head. Horribly out of balance. Andrew's
        voice is mixed too high and drowns everyone else out,
        particularly in the duets. Orchestra sounded terrible
        as well.

    Awful sound engineering. Simply dreadful.

    -b
52.588CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Apr 11 1995 16:433
    	I've always been captivated by the sparkle on the left earring
    	of the Baronness as she and the Captian are breaking off their
    	engagement after Julie Andrews returns from the Abbey.
52.589OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Apr 11 1995 17:054
    Re: Maverick
    
    I thought it would make a decent rental movie -- as in, "Yeah, a rental
    price is closer to good value than a theater price."
52.590They should've stuck to letterbox throughoutDECWIN::RALTOMade with 65% post consumer wasteTue Apr 11 1995 17:339
    "The Sound of Music"'s evil Baronness, redeems herself somewhat in
    the breakup scene by being not only gracious, but by getting (perhaps
    as a reward of sorts) one of the film's best lines, the one that
    goes something like "And somewhere out there is a lady who I think
    will never be a nun."  Plummer's reaction was great.  I was a bit
    saddened to read somewhere (TV Guide) that he apparently disliked
    TSOM pretty intensely.
    
    Chris
52.591POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesTue Apr 11 1995 17:352
    
    The original stage version is much much much better than the movie.  
52.592MKOTS3::JMARTINYou-Had-Forty-Years!!!Tue Apr 11 1995 17:5310
    Debra is correct.  My wife got to meet Mrs. Von Trappe in Vermont the
    year before her death.  She said she loved Mary Martin on the stage but
    simply refuses to acknowledge the movie!
    
    I found the Reverend Mother and even the other nun who didn't care for
    Maria at first to be the true heroes of the movie.  If you really put
    this into perspective, the two of them...along with the other nuns were
    probably put to death in a concentration camp for harbouring fugitives.
    
    -Jack
52.593POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesTue Apr 11 1995 18:0317
    
    Another thing that ticks me off about the movie is that the stage
    version Rolf does NOT give the Von Trapps away while they're hiding
    at the Abbey.  He proves himself to be good at heart after all.  I
    think the reason they had the movie Rolf give the Von Trapps away
    is so that (a) they could show that everyone is either 100% good or
    100% bad and there's no inbetween and (b) they could add some
    excitement and (c) they could have that cute little scene with the nuns 
    tearing up the pursuers' car engine.
    
    Max and the Baroness were malicious in the movie; in the stage version,
    Max was harmless (if opportunistic) and the Baroness (Elsa) was
    perceptive and gracious.
    
    They moved the songs around and added new ones.
    
    I hate the movie 8^).
52.594MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Apr 11 1995 18:052
I don't recall Max being malicious in the movie. Can you explain?

52.595SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIYap!Yap!Yap!Yap!Yap!Yap!Yap!Tue Apr 11 1995 18:064
    
    
     I'm glad I never bothered to see it...
    
52.596PENUTS::DDESMAISONSno, i'm aluminuming 'um, mumTue Apr 11 1995 18:065
    
>>    I hate the movie 8^).

	i am wichoo.  once was definitely enough.

52.597MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryTue Apr 11 1995 18:0910
    I was about 5 or 6 when the movie came out. My Sardine Eating
    Irish registered-as-but-never-voted-for-one Democrat US Mail
    Carrying Grampa took me to see it. For this reason, I have
    very fond memories of the movie.

    Still, I was quite appalled about the soundtrack when I
    saw it on TV.

    -b
52.598WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceTue Apr 11 1995 18:135
    >Still, I was quite appalled about the soundtrack when I
    >saw it on TV.
    
     Yup. I remember remarking to my wife about how horrible the sound
    quality was.
52.599What, dear old Max, malicious? :-)DECWIN::RALTOMade with 65% post consumer wasteTue Apr 11 1995 18:1415
    I didn't get that from Max in the movie, either.  Did you mean it
    the other way around perhaps?  In the movie, Max is almost comic
    relief.  I saw a stage version of TSOM more than a decade ago, and
    it was indeed very impressive, better than the movie in many ways.
    
    Speaking of Rolf's betrayal... as good as Plummer was, I think he
    blew the line "You'll never be one of them."  He said it in a
    condescending, mocking manner.  It would have been more effective
    (to me, anyway) if he'd said it in a kindly, fatherly tone (almost
    the way he'd said the "Come away with us!" line earlier), only to
    have it misinterpreted by Rolf as a "prove my manhood" kind of thing.
    It's subtleties like this that make a movie for me.  I must be a
    frustrated director or something.
    
    Chris
52.600I never noticed. I'll watch it again (and again...)CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Apr 11 1995 18:173
    	I guess when you are used to listening to TV, radio,
    	albums/CDs/tapes, etc., on low-quality electronic 
    	equipment, reduced sound quality is not as noticeable.
52.601POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesTue Apr 11 1995 18:205
    
    Well, I felt that the stage Max was the harmless comic relief Max (he
    dances and sings in that version) who only went along with the Nazis
    because it was easier, while the movie Max really believed in what they
    were doing.  My opinion only. 
52.602MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Apr 11 1995 18:237
> while the movie Max really believed in what they were doing

I didn't get that. I thought I recalled that he only mentioned the risk
of ripping down the Nazi flag to Von Trappe, without showing much concern.
I also always thought that he was quite complicit in their plan of
escape from the musical festival. I took his position to be one of a
disinterested apolitical profiteer.
52.603CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Apr 11 1995 18:248
    	I don't believe the movie's Max believed in the Nazis.  He was
    	like the chameleon used car salesman or politician who is willing
    	to conform in whatever way it takes to sell his wares.  In the
    	movie he said that things would be OK if everyone just learned
    	to get along.
    
    	If Max believed in the Nazis in the movie, he would have turned 
    	them in.
52.604POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesTue Apr 11 1995 18:284
    
    Well, as I said, just my opinion.  Perhaps I'm making my judgment based
    on the actors I saw playing the role in each version.  The stage
    version Max played the role much, much lighter.
52.605MKOTS3::JMARTINYou-Had-Forty-Years!!!Tue Apr 11 1995 18:4213
    The line Max used in the movie...
    
    "Whatever is going to happen is going to happen just be sure it doesn't
    happen to you."
    
    Captain:  MAX DON'T YOU EVER SAY THAT AGAIN!!
    
    Max: You know I hold no political convictions either way...can I help
    it if everybody else does?
    
    Captain:  OH YOU Can help it....You...Must...help it!
    
    -Jack
52.606GAVEL::JANDROWTue Apr 11 1995 19:127
    
    
    	hhmmmmm.....looks like i am going to have to watch this one
    	again...seems i missed a lot...
    
    
    
52.607MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Apr 11 1995 19:145
Well - what WERE you doing Sunday night?


:^)

52.608GAVEL::JANDROWTue Apr 11 1995 19:1711
    
    
    
    well, if you must know, snuggling on the couch, trying to find
    something else to watch...someone wouldn't let me watch tsof...and it 
    was his tv...but, i have the movie at home, so whenever i have about 4
    hours to spare, i'll watch it again...
    
    
    
    besides
52.609SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIYap!Yap!Yap!Yap!Yap!Yap!Yap!Tue Apr 11 1995 19:217
    
    <------
    
    RE: 4 hours...
    
    Glutton for punishment???
    
52.610OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Apr 11 1995 19:577
    Re: .590
    
    > I was a bit saddened to read somewhere (TV Guide) that he apparently 
    >disliked TSOM pretty intensely.
    
    Well, he thought the music was pap; I don't know what he thought about
    the other parts of it.
52.611I've seen the movie explainations. BRAT::MINICHINOTue Apr 11 1995 20:5419
    I and my SO frequent the Von Trapp Family Lodge in Vermont and
    they have a movie called Maria. It is a documentary (sp) on Maria and
    the beginnings, which many would be surprised by. The movie explains
    how TSOM was altered a bit. The VonTrapp Lodge itself lends a lot to
    the explainations about the movie, people places and events that were
    happening. It's very interesting.The movie was a bit changed to "make
    it more interesting" says Maria in the movie. She didn't even like the
    Baron Von Trapp at first. She tells a very funny story. 
    I recommend a visit to the Lodge for historical reasons. Lots of what
    the movie shows explains that they didn't really hide out in the abby
    and that they were often traveling so when they did escape they did it
    very publically. They pretended to be traveling on tour. That bit
    surprised me. That is how they escaped..it kinda bummed me out too..
    I guess I'm an old romantic. 
     
    Last April we dined with two of the VonTrapp sisters, who are at best...
    ancient..but very very pleasant. 
    mm
    
52.612Got through it with a straight face, anywayDECWIN::RALTOMade with 65% post consumer wasteTue Apr 11 1995 21:1614
    >> Well, he thought the music was pap; I don't know what he thought about
    >> the other parts of it.
    
    Yeah, he does look pretty queasy during the "Somewhere in my youth
    or childhood, I must have done something good" song.  I'll have to
    go back and try to find the quote, wherever it was.  His opinion
    was especially interesting given that Julie Andrews made the comment
    the other night that his strong and complex characterization was one
    of the most critical aspects of the film.
    
    Maybe he was better than he wanted to be, in spite of himself.  I've
    always liked him anyway, except in the Star Trek VI movie...
    
    Chris
52.613CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Apr 11 1995 21:223
    	He's an actor.  He's paid to create a character (not to express
    	his personal opinion about the music) while he's taping it.  
    	Once the movie is done, he can do what he wants.
52.614MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Apr 11 1995 23:087
re: Von Trappe sisters "ancient"

How ancient can they be? My parents were adults with kids at the time the
story took place and, now in their 70's, I wouldn't consider _them_
"ancient". The Von Trappe sisters would have been teens or children at
the time putting them in their 60's.

52.615USAT05::BENSONEternal WeltanschauungWed Apr 12 1995 13:269
    
    Have been watching Zifferelli's "Jesus of Nazareth" this week.  Was
    this ever a movie release to the big screen?  It's got so many famous
    folks in it.  Olivier, Mason, Cardinale, Plummer, Farantino (who will
    forever be "Peter" in my mind), Hussey, York, Quinn, Rey, and many many
    others.  Robert Powell, who plays Jesus, is simply incredible.  What
    ever happened to him as an actor?
    
    jeff
52.616CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Wed Apr 12 1995 13:3414


 It was originally made for TV and shown on NBC.  An excellent movie, in my
 opinion.  I've seen Robert Powell in a couple of things since, and I seem
 to recall his name popping up as a narrator on various nature type programs.

 I haven't been watching it this week, but I will occasionally rent it from
 my local Christian bookstore.




 Jim
52.617CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Wed Apr 12 1995 13:3610


 BTW...I agree with you about Farantino/Peter.  He did an excellent job.  The
 scene of him sobbing as he denied knowing Jesus is forever etched on my mind.




Jim
52.618USAT05::BENSONEternal WeltanschauungWed Apr 12 1995 13:364
    
    thanks, Jim.
    
    jeff
52.619WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Apr 13 1995 15:504
    someone mentioned the King of Comedy in another note. one of the all-
    time worst movies ever made...
    
    Chip
52.620MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryThu Apr 13 1995 15:577
    RE: -1
    
    I disagree. I thought it was a pretty interesting study of
    uniquely awful characters. A movie filled with people to
    hate, but not a bad movie itself.
    
    -b
52.621PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingThu Apr 13 1995 17:233
    I agree with Brian....The King of Comedy was very good.
    
    Mark.
52.622WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Apr 13 1995 18:152
    baaaaaaarrrfffff!
    
52.624Not sure thoughODIXIE::ZOGRANIt's the Champale talking!Mon Apr 17 1995 13:425
    Diva was a great movie.
    
    I think the one with Mel was "The Year of Living Dangerously"?
    
    Dan
52.625CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenTue Apr 18 1995 13:358
    Watched The Specialist last night.  Remove brain, insert tape, maybe
    enjoy.  Yes there were explosions, a little gratuitous sex, some brief
    nudity of Sharon Stone and Sly's butt.  Bad spanish accents, dead pan
    acting from Sly himself.  Glad it was a rental.  Don't know what I
    expected but it was not well done.  Jame Woods played a good bad guy
    IMO.  The whole premise of the crime family inserting their own man
    into the Miami bomb squad to lead the investigation was way too far 
    fetched IMO.  
52.626SUBSYS::NEUMYERLove is a dirty jobTue Apr 18 1995 14:338
    
    
    	Also wathed the Specialist last night. I had the same reaction to
    the hitman in the bomb squad!!
    
    	And Rod Stieger as a Cuban mafiosa????
    
    ed
52.627Field of DreamsSTRATA::BARBIERITue Apr 18 1995 17:2312
      I saw Field of Dreams again last night and I just think its
      one of the best films ever made.  I recall that the film
      wasn't even nominated for best picture.
    
      I am curious as to the year it came out (1988 maybe?) and the
      five films that were nominated for best picture the year it
      came out.  If anyone knows, I'd really appreciate it.
    
      I'm almost positive, I prefer Field of Dreams to any of the five
      nominated movies which has to make me wonder whats up.
    
    						Tony
52.628WAHOO::LEVESQUEluxure et suppliceTue Apr 18 1995 17:314
    >I saw Field of Dreams again last night and I just think its (sic)
    >one of the best films ever made.
    
     We must use a different definition of "best"...
52.629PENUTS::DDESMAISONSno, i'm aluminuming 'um, mumTue Apr 18 1995 17:345
>>     We must use a different definition of "best"...

	mmm.  I thought it was pretty mediocre.

52.630SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CTue Apr 18 1995 21:376
    
    
    	Just watched "Wyatt Earp" last night....great flick. Lots of good
    messages in there...
    
    jim
52.631DASHER::RALSTONAin't Life Fun!Tue Apr 18 1995 21:465
    I didn't think that "Wyatt Earp" was half as good as "Tombstone".
    "Tombstone" could possibly have the best two gunfights of all time,
    IMO.
    
    ...Tom
52.632SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CTue Apr 18 1995 22:267
    
    
    	I liked Tombstone too, but Wyatt Earp seemed to catch me on a good
    note last night....
    
    
    jim
52.633Great gunfight and lineDASHER::RALSTONAin't Life Fun!Tue Apr 18 1995 23:0612
    I too liked "Wyatt Earp". But I thought it was a little to long.
    
    Remember at the end of "Tombstone", the gunfight between Doc Holiday
    and Johnny Ringo. Best movie western gunfight ever, IMO. Doc and Ringo
    circle each other as Doc taps on his sixshooter. Ringo draws and Doc
    draws/fires, shooting Ringo in the head/reholsters all before Ringo
    gets his gun pointed. Doc responds to Wyatt with a classic line,
    something like, "I guess the stress was just more than he could bear"
    
    Great movie!
    
    ...Tom 
52.634POLAR::RICHARDSONSpecial Fan Club BaloneyWed Apr 19 1995 02:1311
    <------
    

  How true!

  How wonderfully true!

  How wonderfully , bubblingly , frothingly , burstingly true!

  What a truly ecstasy inducingly correct observation!
    
52.635SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Apr 19 1995 08:4015
    
    
>    Remember at the end of "Tombstone", the gunfight between Doc Holiday
>    and Johnny Ringo. Best movie western gunfight ever, IMO. Doc and Ringo
>    circle each other as Doc taps on his sixshooter. Ringo draws and Doc
>    draws/fires, shooting Ringo in the head/reholsters all before Ringo
>    gets his gun pointed. Doc responds to Wyatt with a classic line,
>    something like, "I guess the stress was just more than he could bear"
    
    	Yeah, a great gunfight to be sure. There were a couple of great
    lines during that one gunfight. I think I need to rent that and "A fist
    full of dollars" again tonight. :)
    
    
    jim
52.636WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Apr 19 1995 11:423
    -1 happy days! my wife bought Tombstone for me!
    
       Chip
52.637SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Apr 19 1995 12:066
    
    
    	good wife. Mine bought me a stainless .45acp for christmas...:*)
    
    
    jim
52.638WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Apr 19 1995 12:257
    -1 Man! I've got to have a serious talk with mine.
    
       Say Jim, can you give me a number where my wife can reach your's?
    
       :-)
    
       Chip
52.639SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Apr 19 1995 12:446
    
    
    	Send her over chip....:*)
    
    
    jim
52.640TROOA::COLLINSLost In CyberspaceWed Apr 19 1995 13:144
    
    I saw `Tank Girl'.  Great fun.  Don't take your parents.  If you *are*
    parents, don't take your children.
    
52.641NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Apr 19 1995 13:435
Wyatt Earp, Wyatt Earp,
Brave, courageous and bold.
Long live his fame
And long live his glory
And long may his story be told.
52.642nothing like a great gun-fight :-}TIS::HAMBURGERREMEMBER NOVEMBER: FREEDOM COUNTSWed Apr 19 1995 14:1021
Tombstone was (IMHO) the better movie. I read a writeup by the company that 
located the props for it. The work they did for accuracy was incredible. They 
researched the guns that each Earp carried and then used either originals or
reproductions. (Wyatts shotgun was a 3-trigger Savage, now illegal but popular
with lawmen back then) The nickle-plate pearl handle S&W Schofield was
an original Schofield just like the one Morgan carried(Virgil? brain fade!)

Doc Holiday double gun rig was correct for some of his history although he
switched the short-gun from a single-action to a double-action Colt Lightning
later on(according to some biographers)
Even the saddles were the correct type for the era as oppsed to the modern
"western" saddles used by many films.
Wyatt Earp (the movie) was not as historically accurate. The cost to make it 
so would have been a small addition to the budget it is too bad they didn't 
bother.

The best gun-fight BTW is Sam Peckinpaws "The Wild Bunch" a 3 and 1/2 hour
gunfight. With ALL accurate weapons (except one, today's trivia, which one?)

Amos
52.643SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBe vewy caweful of yapping zebwasWed Apr 19 1995 14:2811
    
    <-----
    
    RE: Tombstone
    
    
      How authentic was the one Doc Holiday used in the casino when
    confronted at the poker table??
    
     :) :) :) :)
    
52.644not your average Boy ScoutTIS::HAMBURGERREMEMBER NOVEMBER: FREEDOM COUNTSWed Apr 19 1995 14:5229
>  <<< Note 52.643 by SOLVIT::KRAWIECKI "Be vewy caweful of yapping zebwas" >>>

    
>    <-----
    
>    RE: Tombstone
    
    
>      How authentic was the one Doc Holiday used in the casino when
>    confronted at the poker table??
    
>     :) :) :) :)
 
The famous "twirling" scene(where is the whirly-twirley guy when you need 
him?)??

From what I've read of history Doc Holiday never backed down, he knew he was
dying and said on several occasions "it would be better to die quick than in a 
bed coughing blood"(or words like that). The only time he began to act 
civilised was when Wyatt was around. From What I've read Wyatt was the only
person in the world Holiday respected.

One of my favorite lines, as she gives him a cigarette Doc says "Then again
you may be the anti-christ". 
in reality when Doc was down on his luck he used to pimp Big-nose Kate to
raise money so he could go back to gambling.

As the Brits would say "he was a real rotter" :-} :-} but I like him. :-}   

52.645POLAR::RICHARDSONSpecial Fan Club BaloneyWed Apr 19 1995 15:061
    8^@
52.646POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesWed Apr 19 1995 15:102
    
    Seek and ye shall find 8^).
52.647SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Apr 19 1995 15:478
    
    
    	re: "...you may be the anti-christ"
    
    	I loved that line!
    
    
    
52.648CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Wed Apr 19 1995 18:095
    <<< Note 52.642 by TIS::HAMBURGER "REMEMBER NOVEMBER: FREEDOM COUNTS" >>>

>reproductions. (Wyatts shotgun was a 3-trigger Savage, now illegal ...
    
    	What exactly is a 3-trigger, and why should it be illegal?
52.649SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Apr 19 1995 18:1311
    
    
    	I believe the three trigger allowed you to fire each barrel
    separately (squeeze on trigger for one, the 2nd trigger for the other)
    or both barrels simultaneously (the third trigger). Since the third
    trigger allows more than one shot per one squeeze of the trigger, that
    makes it a machine gun, hence illegal (or dang near to it) for joe/jane
    average to own.
    
    
    jim
52.650now, extra points. What was wrong in "Wild Bunch"?TIS::HAMBURGERREMEMBER NOVEMBER: FREEDOM COUNTSWed Apr 19 1995 19:0019
>        <<< Note 52.649 by SUBPAC::SADIN "One if by LAN, two if by C" >>>

    
    
>    	I believe the three trigger allowed you to fire each barrel
>    separately (squeeze on trigger for one, the 2nd trigger for the other)
>    or both barrels simultaneously (the third trigger). Since the third
>    trigger allows more than one shot per one squeeze of the trigger, that
>    makes it a machine gun, hence illegal (or dang near to it) for joe/jane
>    average to own.
    
    
A kewpie doll for Jim! Correct!

Law enforcement types loved 'em you could throw a LOT of lead real-quick!
Went the way of the citizens right to buy a Thompson at the local
hardware store. :-(

Amos
52.651NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Apr 19 1995 19:053
>            -< now, extra points. What was wrong in "Wild Bunch"? >-

It was too violent?
52.652CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Wed Apr 19 1995 19:271
    	Thanks for the 3-trigger lesson.  Interesting!
52.653NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Apr 19 1995 19:291
Why can't you squeeze the two triggers at the same time?
52.654CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Wed Apr 19 1995 19:441
    	And what happens if you squeeze all three at the same time?
52.655MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryWed Apr 19 1995 19:463
    
    ... I tried that once... oh, triggers on guns. Nevermind.
    
52.656NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Apr 19 1995 19:481
.655 reminds me of the punchline "look at the two schmucks on the camel."
52.657it'll hurtTIS::HAMBURGERREMEMBER NOVEMBER: FREEDOM COUNTSWed Apr 19 1995 19:5214
>   <<< Note 52.653 by NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085" >>>

>Why can't you squeeze the two triggers at the same time?

A nasty bruise/cut/fracture of the finger caught between the two triggers
during the (rather violent) recoil of a 12-bore.

The firing sequence is to use the index-finger on the forward-most trigger
then slide it back to the rear trigger for the second(other barrel) shot.

I would imagine trying to do all 3 would result in two injured fingers :-}

and NO the Wild Bunch wasn't too violent :-} (at least that isn't the answer)
:-}
52.658CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Wed Apr 19 1995 21:535
    	Oh, the triggers are in front of each other?  
    
    	I pictured them side-by-side.
    
    	Of course, ignorance is why I ask about it!
52.659POLAR::RICHARDSONSpecial Fan Club BaloneyFri Apr 21 1995 01:557
    I'm watching Blade Runner for the umpteenth time.

    It has to be the most artistically done science fiction movie ever
    made. The attention to detail is second to none. Every scene is a work
    of art. Score by Vangelis is great.

    certainly one of my all time faves.
52.660Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMAnd monkeys might fly outa my butt!Fri Apr 21 1995 02:016
    He dies......... Oppps did I spoil it.
    
    
    Hang on a sec..... He didn't die the last time I watched it....Hmmmmm.
    
    yuk yuk
52.661POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Fuzzy FacesFri Apr 21 1995 03:175
    
    Well, I saw some of The Princess Bride this weekend.
    
    You'd never know it was my first time, tho, cuz I already knew lots of
    the lines, thanks to my fellow boxers 8^))).
52.662WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Apr 21 1995 11:223
    Re; Bladerunner... i love that movie (got it taped!).
    
    Chip
52.663CSOA1::LEECHFri Apr 21 1995 13:4211
    "Why can't I move my arms?"
    
    "Because you've been mostly dead all day."
    
    
    I recently saw the Princess Bride again.  Unfortunately, I missed the
    first 1/3 or so since I didn't know it was on (I was doing a bit a
    channel surfing and ran right into it  8^) ).
    
    
    -steve
52.664SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVETS Palo AltoFri Apr 21 1995 18:505
    Blade Runner - Director's Cut is the only way to go.
    
    The studio release version made absolutely no sense.
    
    DougO
52.665HANNAH::MODICAJourneyman NoterFri Apr 21 1995 18:539
    
    Re: Blade Runner
    
    
    The Directors Cut is that different DougO?
    I saw the studio released version and though confusing, I did enjoy
    it a bit.
    
    							Hank
52.666POLAR::RICHARDSONSpecial Fan Club Butt TinkeringFri Apr 21 1995 18:531
    I have the director's cut.
52.667TROOA::COLLINSFrom Sheilus to the Reefs of KizmarFri Apr 21 1995 18:546
    
    Did the "director's cut" get rid of the voice-over?  I heard that
    Ridley Scott originally filmed it without the voiceover, and the 
    studio suits told him to put some narration in so they could 
    understand what was going on.
    
52.668POLAR::RICHARDSONSpecial Fan Club Butt TinkeringFri Apr 21 1995 19:003
    There is naration and it's well done.
    
    
52.669SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVETS Palo AltoFri Apr 21 1995 19:066
    The studio cut removed a lot of the explanatory material from the
    beginning of the film, realized they'b botched it, and added a lot 
    more voiceover, as I understand it.  The Director's cut is longer, has
    less narration, and simply flows a lot better.
    
    DougO
52.670TROOA::COLLINSFrom Sheilus to the Reefs of KizmarFri Apr 21 1995 19:073
    
    `BLADE RUNNER' PARTY AT GLENN'S HOUSE!!!
    
52.671CSEXP2::ANDREWSI'm the NRAFri Apr 21 1995 19:072
    Dumb question, is it out on video yet?  How much?
    
52.672POLAR::RICHARDSONSpecial Fan Club Butt TinkeringFri Apr 21 1995 19:171
    OK!
52.673re: what's available on videoSHRMSG::ADOERFERFri Apr 21 1995 19:24228
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                               BLADE RUNNER

                         Frequently Asked Questions

                     Copyright (C) 1992-5 Murray Chapman

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                  A WWW version of this FAQ is now available:

                   http://www.uq.oz.au/~csmchapm/bladerunner/

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[...]
    
6. I DON'T LIKE THE VOICE-OVERS/ENDING.

Ridley Scott made BR in a style called "film noir".  Film noir is a 
"hardboiled detective" style of story-telling.  Perhaps the most famous 
example is the Humphrey Bogart movie "The Maltese Falcon" (directed by John 
Huston).  A trademark of film noir is the voice-overs by the detective, 
explaining what he is thinking/doing at the time.

Ridley Scott filmed BR *without* the voice-overs, but due to its poor 
reception at a sneak previews, the studio insisted that the voice-overs be 
added.  Ridley Scott said in an interview on American television that in film 
noir, voice-overs sometimes work, and sometimes don't, and they didn't work 
in BR.

"(A)n extensive voice-over was added to help people relate to Harrison Ford's 
character and make following the plot easier.  (A)fter a draft by novelist-
screenwriter Darryl Ponicsan was discarded, a TV veteran named Roland Kibbee 
got the job.  As finally written, the voice-over met with universal scorn 
from the filmmakers, mostly for what Scott characterized as its 'Irving the 
Explainer' quality....  It sounded so tinny and ersatz that, in a curious bit 
of film folklore, many members of the team believe to this day that Harrison 
Ford, consciously or not, did an uninspired reading of it in the hopes it 
wouldn't be used.  And when co-writers Fancher and Peoples, now friends, saw 
it together, they were so afraid the other had written it that they refrained 
from any negative comments until months later."  [Source: Los Angeles Times 
Magazine, September 13, 1992.]

The ending of the film was also changed by the studio.  Scott wanted to end 
the film with Deckard and Rachael getting into the elevator, but the studio 
decided that the film needed a happier, less ambiguous ending.  The aerial 
shots used in the 1982 theatrical release were outtakes from Stanley Kubrik's 
"The Shining" (which, coincidentally, featured Joe Turkel).

In September 1992, Warner Bros. released "The Director's Cut" of Blade Runner 
(BRDC), which eliminated the voice-overs and the happy ending.


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7. WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF BLADE RUNNER?


- US Denver/Dallas Sneak Preview/Workprint (1982)
- US San Diego Sneak Preview (1982)
- US Theatrical Release (1982)
- European Theatrical Release (1982) 
- The Director's Cut (BRDC) (1992)

The Video Watchdog article which claims there are seven different versions
is discussed in section 13.

Hampton Fancher did several drafts of the screenplay.  These drafts concluded 
with Deckard taking Rachael out of the city, letting her see nature for the 
first time, and then, because she doesn't want to be caught by the police, 
shooting her in the snow.  David Peoples was brought in to polish the script, 
and Ridley Scott asked him to include more detective work.  Peoples worked on 
the humanity of Deckard's adversaries.  His daughter mentioned the biological 
term "replicate", which led to "replicant".  Peoples also told Scott that the 
screenplay was virtually perfect before he worked on it. [Source: Los Angeles 
Times Magazine, September 13, 1992: p. 20.]

The rumours of a three-hour version of BR are just that: rumours.  No version
of the script could be made into a film of that length.  Mary was cut before
any of her scenes were filmed.

Contracts under the terms of the Hollywood Director's Guild usually allow 6
weeks for the director to assemble a cut of the film without studio
interference as he would like it to be seen.  This "director's cut" is fully
edited and has a synchhronized sound track.  This cut is usually not color
corrected or density corrected and may not even have the final music and
effects tracks.  In more recent times the term "Director's Cut" has taken on a
popular meaning that implies a polished final cut of the film that the
director has complete artistic control over.  BRDC fits the latter
definition.  The now legendary "workprint" seen at the Nuart and Castro
theaters, fits the former.


US Denver/Dallas Sneak Preview/Workprint--70mm (113 min):
--------------------------------------------------------
- Webster's 2012 definition of a replicant used in lieu of opening crawl
- voiceovers deleted except at Batty's death
- Bryant says TWO replicants were fried running through an electric field
- conversation between snake-maker and Deckard is different and matches their 
  lips
- includes shot of nearly nude dancers in hockey masks outside Taffey's bar
- Batty says, "I want more life, father."
- Pris lifts Deckard up by his nostrils when she beats him up
- different voiceover used after Batty's death
- ends with the elevator doors closing
- shorter than other versions

This version was shown at the Fairfax Theater in 1990 and UCLA's Los Angeles 
Perspectives multimedia festival in 1991.  This was also the print shown at
a London sneak preview in March of 1982.  A 35mm reduction of this version
was later shown at the Nuart and Castro Theaters in 1991.  There were rumours
that THIS version was the original director's cut, but the official 1992
Director's Cut is not the same.


US San Diego Sneak Preview (115 min):
------------------------------------

- shows Batty making a telephone call to see if Chew is there
- shows Deckard reloading his weapon after firing at Batty
- Deckard and Rachael ride into the sunset

[Source: Video Watchdog no. 20, November-December 1993.]


European Theatrical Release/Criterion Laserdisc/Videocassette (117 min):
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

- Batty sticks his thumbs in Tyrell's eyes, which bleed copiously.
- Pris lifts Deckard up by his nostrils when she beats him up.
- Deckard shoots Pris a third time.
- more of Pris kicking and screaming when she is shot by Deckard.
- shows Roy actually pushing the nail through his hand
- Deckard and Rachael ride into the sunset

The added violence makes this version about 15 seconds longer than the US 
theatrical release.  The 10th Anniversary video edition is the same as this 
release.


The Director's Cut (BRDC) (117 min):
----------------------------------
- voice-overs completely eliminated
- added dialog from blimp to cover missing voice-over while Deckard waits
  for a seat at the noodle bar.
- 12-second unicorn scene added when Deckard plays the piano
- happy ending deleted (movie ends with elevator doors closing)
- extra violence seen on videocassette deleted
- digital soundtrack was remixed for BRDC.



Cable TV [? min]:
----------------

When BR first appeared on American cable TV, there was an additional line of 
dialog when Bryant gives Deckard the description, names, and addresses of 
Tyrell and Sebastian over the radio.  In the cable TV version, Bryant adds 
"...and check 'em out" after he says "I want you to go down there."

[This is an as-yet unconfirmed rumour.  Anyone who has a tape of the original
 premiere release on cable, could you PLEASE contact me?]


VIDEOTAPE (117 min):
-------------------

All video tapes before January 1993 are the "Not Rated" version and contain 
the extra violence in the Euro-release that's not seen in the 117 minute 
American theatrical release.

On January 22, 1993 BRDC became available on video tape in Japan: widescreen 
VHS HiFi at a price of 3800 Yen.  It was released in the US on May 19, 1993 
with a suggested Retail Price $US39.98.

US residents contact Ted Swanson (tswanson@bpa.arizona.edu) for mail-order 
information.



LASERDISC:
---------

In the NTSC markets (M/NTSC 3.58 525/60: US and Japan), there have been up to 
seven versions of Blade Runner continuously available on laserdisc for the 
last several years.

Blade Runner: The Director's Cut (1992):

* Warner Home Video 12682,  $50, CAV, letterboxed (true aspect ratio 2.41:1), 
4 sides, digital stereo, CX/analog stereo, Pioneer pressing, no supplements.

* Warner Home Video Japan NJL-12682, 5,000 Yen, CLV, letterboxed (true aspect 
ratio 2.41:1), digital stereo, Japanese subtitles, Pioneer pressing, no 
supplements.  (From same video master as the domestic WB-12682.)


1982 European Cut/US home video:

* Criterion Collection CC1120L, $90, CAV, letterboxed (true aspect ratio 
2.50:1), 4 sides, digital stereo, CX/analog stereo, 3M pressing, extensive 
still-frame supplements.

* Criterion Collection CC1169L, $50, CLV, letterboxed (true aspect ratio 
2.50:1), 2 sides, digital stereo, CX/analog stereo, Pioneer pressing, no 
supplements.

* Embassy/Nelson Ent., 13806, $35, CLV, pan&scan (true aspect ratio 1.24:1), 
2 sides, CX/analog stereo, Pioneer pressing, no digital sound, no 
supplements.

* Warner Home Video Japan NJL-20008, 12,500 Yen, CAV, letterboxed (true 
aspect ratio 2.50:1), 4 sides, digital stereo, subtitled in Japanese, Pioneer 
pressing.  (Mastered from the Criterion Collection CC1120L but omits some of 
the English supplemental material.)

* (Japanese) 08JL-70008, 7,400 Yen, CLV, pan&scan (probably identical to the 
Embassy laserdisc), 2 sides, digital stereo, subtitle/dubbing unknown, 
pressing unknown.

Note that Embassy and Nelson Entertainment LDs although marked as the NR 
(not-rated) Euro-release are actually the same as the 1982 US theatrical 
release and NOT the Embassy NTSC VHS videotape.  The 1982 Workprint is not 
available on laserdisc or video tape.

52.674CSEXP2::ANDREWSI'm the NRAFri Apr 21 1995 19:433
    (Geez, and all I wanted was yes or no...)
    
    Thanks for the MORE THAN complete info.
52.675re: BR voice oversDECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Apr 24 1995 18:5021
That's interesting about the Bogart-style film noir detective voice-overs - 
I think this actually explains a lot about why it didn't work with BR.

The Bogart-style detectives were portrayed as larger-than-life good guys:
strong heroic-type cool guys with whom the audience could relate. Deckard on
the other hand was not particularly a hero. Let's face it, in every encounter
with a replicant he would have been dead meat, were it not for dumb luck.
He was a mess with his wife gone, and he had this incredible envy/obsession
with expensive animals (anyone read the book?). The voice-over really distracted
from his nature, set up a conflict between who he was and this film noir 
detective tone. This made Ford seem, in my eyes, as if his acting wasn't very 
good, that this wasn't one of his better roles.

With the voice-over gone, it is suddenly very clear who this character is, and 
Ford's portrayal seems very good. His weaknesses and shortcomings are very
obvious: I remember in particular after Zhora is killed that he seems totally
shaken and sickened - with the voice-over this was partially obscured.

The Director's Cut is definitely the way to go. No if they'de just get HDTV
going ...
52.676Ed WoodMPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon Apr 24 1995 19:1725
    Saw a cool movie this weekend. Or at least, I thought it was
    cool. I am recommending it, but caveat emptor: this is about
    as "offbeat" as offbeat gets. Not quite David Lynch, but up
    there...

    The movie is about "Ed Wood", the movie director responsible
    for the gem "Plan 9 From Outer Space". He was posthumously
    named the worst movie director of all time.

    He made for a better story than his movies though. The movie
    was directed by Tim Burton (Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Beetlejuice,
    Batman, Nightmare Before Christmas...). Johnny Depp (Edward
    Scissorhands) plays Ed Wood (who frequently dressed in women's
    clothes while on the movie set), Martin Landau plays Bela Legosi
    (in an Oscar winning role), Sarah Jessica Parker plays Wood's
    girlfriend, Bill Murray plays a queen (to perfection),
    Jeffry Jones plays a psychic scam artist, Lisa Marie plays
    Vampira (who once unsuccessfully sued Elvira for stealing her
    act) and ____ Arquette (forget her first name, sorry) plays
    the women who Wood eventually married.

    A great cast, a very funny movie, and lots of lovely
    Angora sweaters... what more could you ask for?

    -b
52.677OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Mon Apr 24 1995 20:141
    Patricia Arquette, I believe.
52.678TROOA::COLLINSJust add beer...Tue Apr 25 1995 00:006
    
    .676:
    
    I'm afraid I simply MUST concur with Mr. Markey's position 
    regarding `Ed Wood'.
    
52.681PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Apr 25 1995 12:319
	Shawshank Redemption - a good movie, not as great as I had heard,
	but good compared to the usual drek out there.  I've never really
	understood all the brouhaha about Tim Robbins, and I still don't
	after this, but he was okay, and Morgan Freeman did a fine job,
	as always.  They could have shortened it to 2 hours, 'cuz it
	dragged a bit, imo.


52.682OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Apr 25 1995 17:233
    Y'know the duet Tim Robbins plays for the prison, and they're all
    mesmerized?  I get to do it for this iteration of the Opera Workshop. 
    We don't sound quite like the women in the movie, though....
52.683PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Apr 25 1995 17:274
	Mozart - Marriage of Figaro?  Excruciatingly beautiful stuff.
	How lucky thou art.

52.684OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Apr 25 1995 17:411
    That's the one.  Mozart is a pleasure to sing.
52.685CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Tue Apr 25 1995 18:453
    	Has anyone seen that Einstein movie?  I think it was called
    	IQ.  It's at the $1.00 theatre here, and I thought it might
    	be good for the price.
52.686IQCTHU26::S_BURRIDGETue Apr 25 1995 18:574
    I enjoyed it.  It's a pretty silly romantic comedy, with a good cast
    and some amusing scenes.
    
    -Stephen
52.687OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Apr 25 1995 19:252
    Yes, it's "IQ" and it's certainly worth a $1.00 ticket.  Walter Matthau
    and his friends are a hoot.
52.688NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Apr 25 1995 20:022
Does Walter Matthau appear in boxer shorts?  I think it's a condition of
his contract.
52.689CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanFri Apr 28 1995 04:268


 Watched Forrest Gump tonight..not bad at all.  



 Jim
52.690WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Apr 28 1995 11:234
    my wife bought the tape for me... gonna view it tonight in the company
    of my one and only and some Dewers...
    
    Chip
52.691MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon May 01 1995 16:2021
    Went to visit a long-time Digit/friend at his new digs in
    Hollis NH on Saturday night. Not only a beautiful home, but
    the most impressive in-home theatre I've ever seen. Big
    projector thingy hanging from the ceiling, 10' wide
    screen, line doubler, surround sound, satellite receiver,
    the works...

    We watched Forrest Gump. There were five of us there, and
    it was the first time any of us saw the movie. Frank had
    it on videodisk (which is _infinitely_ superior in quality
    to VHS.) The movie looked and sounded simply gorgeous.

    AND... I think it was a darn good movie. I was expecting
    a "girl movie" if you know what I mean (lots of weepy,
    touchy-feely group hug kinda stuff), and was surprised
    that it was much more than that. A most definite
    hyperextended pair of preaxial digits pointed toward
    the zenith.

    -b
52.692PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 01 1995 16:329
	saw "Tombstone" this weekend.  thought it was lousy.  all the
	stars looked like little kids playing gunslinger and heck, they
	were just too well dressed - didn't look natural. 
	only scene i liked was when earp threw the dealer out when he
	first arrived in town.

	they ain't makin' 'em like they used to - nosirree.

52.693CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenMon May 01 1995 16:3310
    Wento to the Last Strand in Clinton Saturday night and saw Don Juan
    deMarco with Marlon Brando, Johnny Depp, and Fay Dunaway.  A light
    hearted look at a fantastical world of a young romantic and the
    influence he has on his psychiatrist.  I enjoyed it.  The best part is
    that the Last Strand in a movie and drafthouse like the Elms in
    Millbury.  Enjoy a flick with a cold beverage, beer, wine or pop as 
    dictated by your desires.  Reasonable prices as well.  Movie was $4.00.  
    After that, I really didn't care what the film was about :-). 
    
    Brian
52.695life's a bitchRDGE44::ALEUC8Mon May 01 1995 16:416
    i watched some really crap film Friday night late
    
    i only watched it cos i liked the girly in it and was hoping she'd get
    her gear off but she never
    
    ric
52.696MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon May 01 1995 16:4522
    RE: The Elms in Millbury

    That was where we hung when I was a kid. I remember many
    afternoons spent in that theatre, but perhaps the clearest
    memory is of Dean Martin's "The Wrecking Crew". Saw lots
    of James Bondage there too... used to go there with a
    kid named Kevin and his friend: Ron Darling (yep, the Ron
    Darling who pitched for the Mets when they wuz good; Ron
    was our paperboy for a while too.) We all lived in the same
    "development" in Millbury.

    When I was in my teens and early 20s, the place was run
    down and closed most of the time. For a while, bands were
    using it as a practice space.

    Then it re-opened as the Draughthouse... cool little
    theatre.

    Please pardon this little reminiscence break...

    -b
52.697SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVETS Palo AltoMon May 01 1995 16:4615
    We rented 'When a Man Loves a Woman' with Meg Ryan and Andy Garcia.
    
    I had deliberately avoided seeing this movie because the previews
    catered to the typical dysfunctional family schtick and its all just
    too depressing.  But I was wrong.  They focused in on one aspect of an
    alcoholic struggling through the first six months of sobriety and the
    behaviors on both sides of the couple as they nearly lost and perhaps
    saved their relationship - on new terms.
    
    Meg Ryan did a great job.  And given the premise, the writers did 
    a great job, too.  Every word out of her mouth after she got sober
    sounded like an echo of someone in my family who has been there.  
    It was a little spooky.
    
    DougO
52.698SHRCTR::DAVISMon May 01 1995 17:1915
     <<< Note 52.693 by CONSLT::MCBRIDE "Reformatted to fit your screen" >>>

Ain't the Last Strand great?! This place was my first encounter with the 
movie-theatre/pub concept, and all I could think is "Where have you been so 
long?" Going there is like flying first class instead of coach: lots of leg 
room, better ambiance, drinks and treats by your side (instead of balanced 
on your lap). What makes LS even more amazing is that it's CHEAP. My wife 
and I saw "Don Juan", with a large bag of popcorn (cooked in canola oil) 
and a couple of 20-oz. drafts for $14. Hell it costs that much for just two 
tickets in a cramped little Loeb theatre.

I hope they've done a good job on their spreadsheets. I'd hate to have them 
go under 'cause they're charging too little.

Tom
52.699QUINCE::SILVAMon May 01 1995 17:314


	The best movie I ever saw was.....
52.700QUINCE::SILVAMon May 01 1995 17:313

	The 700 Club Snarf Movie!
52.701WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon May 01 1995 17:366
    Hey Di'... "you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?"
    
    I liked it... In fact I watched again this weekend right after Forrest
    Gump. Loved that too.
    
    Chip
52.702Moral : Intelligence is overrated ?GAAS::BRAUCHERMon May 01 1995 17:395
    
    Well, under intense danger of ridicule, I broke down and watched
    Forrest Gump.  It's actually not bad.  But I think it's too long.
    
      bb
52.703SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotMon May 01 1995 17:402
    Watched "A Room with a View" again this weekend.  Sometimes they *do*
    still make 'em like they used to.
52.704TROOA::COLLINSBrakes just slow you down.Mon May 01 1995 17:425
    
    `Room With A View'?  Is that the boring movie where nothing happens?
    
    ;^)
    
52.705SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotMon May 01 1995 17:431
    No.
52.706PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 01 1995 17:486
    
>>    `Room With A View'?  Is that the boring movie where nothing happens?

	That sounds like it. ;>

52.70742344::CBHLager LoutMon May 01 1995 17:494
Don't forget the crap title music!  On second thoughts, do forget it, 'coz
it was crap.

Chris.
52.708TROOA::COLLINSBrakes just slow you down.Mon May 01 1995 17:5114
    
    A really *good* movie should have at least one of the following:
    
    - aliens
    
    - robots
    
    - the undead
    
    ...and a tank that responds to spoken commands can be substituted
    for the robots in a pinch.
    
    jc
    
52.709PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 01 1995 17:554
	these days, i'd settle for some great acting and intelligent
	dialogue (or no dialogue).  

52.711PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 01 1995 18:093
	have been hearing that that's good.  now i'm convinced.

52.712JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon May 01 1995 18:106
    DougO,
    
    Thanks for the review of Man loves Woman.
    
    I've walked past it a gazillion times for the same reason.  Maybe
    I'll pick it up next time.
52.71342344::CBHLager LoutMon May 01 1995 18:153
A good fillum should have lots of violence.

Chris.
52.714DASHER::RALSTONAnagram: Lost hat on MarsMon May 01 1995 20:069
    Good movies for a weekend always contain:
    
    Violence
    Nudity
    Adult Situations
    
    What would Friday and Saturday night be without it??!! :)
    
    ...Tom
52.715MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon May 01 1995 20:075
    
    Frankly, that sounds like a typical weekend for me, even if
    I don't see a movie! :-)
    
    -b
52.716GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed LadyMon May 01 1995 21:1616
    
    
    re: the elm....
    
    went there once...thought it was really neat...i really liked the
    concept of being able to eat pizza with a bunch of friends watching a
    movie (and chugging beer, if you opted to)...and not be at home...and 
    3 bucks for a movie aint bad!  saw 'housesitter' there a few years ago.
    brian, there's a place in clinton like that????  please send more info!
    
    
    watched 'the return of hunter' last nite (tv movie)...i liked
    it...anyone else see it????  which one was barry bostwick??  
    
    
    
52.717POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Creamy PresentsTue May 02 1995 03:582
    
    Barry Bostwick is always 'Brad' to me.
52.718POLAR::RICHARDSONCreamy Present Chamber DeliveriesTue May 02 1995 04:023
    > 'Brad' to me.
    
    Anagram: dreamt rob
52.719CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenTue May 02 1995 11:598
    The Last Strand in Clinton, right on the main drag.  Big marquee.  Just
    up the hill and around the corner from the Old Timer.  Can't miss it. 
    Didn't see pizza but they have beer, wine and pop, hot dogs, burgers,
    nachos and the usual movie fare.  No smoking as well which I believe
    the Elms is not or wasn't.  There is even a waitron to save you the
    hassle of getting up for refills if so desired.  
    
    Brian  
52.720CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenTue May 02 1995 12:396
    Rented Forrest Gump last night.  Liked it, yes it was a tad long but
    overall it was a good film.  Don't usually like feel good type films
    but this was definitely worth the watch.  Even good for a sniff or two
    at the end.  Must be my weakened condition.  
    
    Brian 
52.721SMURF::MSCANLONalliaskofmyselfisthatiholdtogetherTue May 02 1995 12:517
    re: .719
    
    They've reopened The Strand!!!!!!???? How great!  Many's
    the double feature I sat through on a Saturday afternoon
    in my youth! (with a large bag of penny candy from Zoll's :-)
    
    Mary-Michael
52.722WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue May 02 1995 12:523
    hey Brian, I'll loan you litre of testosterone :-)
    
    Chip
52.723RDGE44::ALEUC8Tue May 02 1995 13:255
    .708
    
    ... and nice girlies wearing little if anything (preferably wet)
    
    ric
52.724Don't know what made me think about this...TROOA::COLLINSOpposed to that sort of thing!Tue May 02 1995 13:389
    
    Did anyone see that documentary a few years ago...can't remember the
    name...which followed the debates between G. Gordon Liddy and Timothy
    Leary?
    
    I remember thinking: "They're both NUTS!"
    
    :^)
    
52.725CSOA1::LEECHTue May 02 1995 13:462
    I rented "Clear and Present Danger" over the weekend.  Not a bad flick.
    
52.726Make that beach...MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryTue May 02 1995 14:0613
    Heard a comic yesterday talking about watching movies on the VCR...
    backwards. In other words, start at the end and watch until the
    beginning.

    The Godfather becomes a movie about a bunch of gangsters who
    keep losing money until they're so poor they have to move back
    to Italy...

    And Jaws becomes a movie about a shark that keeps throwing
    people up until they open the beech!

    -b
52.727I didn't lie, your HonorDECWIN::RALTOIt's a small third world after allTue May 02 1995 14:267
    Speaking of watching movies in odd ways on VCR's, a few months ago
    I watched "Dances with Wolves" entirely in fast-forward-scan mode.
    
    My father-in-law forced the damned thing into my hand, insisting
    and demanding that we watch it.  Well, I watched it!  :-)
    
    Chris
52.728GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed LadyTue May 02 1995 14:497
    
    >>I rented "Clear and Present Danger" over the weekend.  Not a bad
    >>flick.
    
    tell that to the krawiecki twins... :> ;> ;>
    
    
52.729SHRCTR::DAVISTue May 02 1995 16:579
     <<< Note 52.719 by CONSLT::MCBRIDE "Reformatted to fit your screen" >>>

>    The Last Strand in Clinton, right on the main drag.  Big marquee.  Just
>    up the hill and around the corner from the Old Timer.  Can't miss it. 
>    Didn't see pizza but they have beer, wine and pop, hot dogs, burgers,
                ^^^^^
They have pizza.  Nothing to write home about, but not too bad, either. And 
not so sloppy you'll get drippings on your jeans. :')

52.730POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Creamy PresentsTue May 02 1995 17:192
    
    Well heck, let's go there some time!
52.731SHRCTR::DAVISTue May 02 1995 17:325
    <<< Note 52.730 by POWDML::LAUER "Little Chamber of Creamy Presents" >>>

Actually, that's not a bad idea. Organize a box bash around a particularly 
raucus movie ... it could be fun. 'Course, you'll have to bring your own 
wiskey to add to that beer.
52.732Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnFri May 05 1995 06:395
    Someone in my appartment rented Prisilla (sp?) - Queen of the Desert, 
    the other day. I watched it and thought it was very good. I larfed loads 
    all the way thru it. That bloke Guy Pearce who played (can't remember)
    used to be in the soap Neighbours, I think he was perfectly cast for
    the role in Prisilla though.
52.733NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri May 05 1995 13:131
"O Lucky Man" starring Malcolm McDowell as Jack DelBalso.
52.734CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri May 05 1995 14:335
    The Puppetmasters with Donald Sutherland and others.  Middle of the
    road sci-fi quasi remake of Invasion of the Snatching Bodies. 
    Entertaining though.  It was just okay.  
    
    Brian
52.735SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri May 05 1995 15:0410
    .734
    
    > The Puppetmasters...Middle of the
    > road sci-fi quasi remake of Invasion of the Snatching Bodies.
    
    No, it's not.  It is a first-time film of Robert A. Heinlein's classic
    SF novel "The Puppet Masters," original copyright 1951, republished
    uncut in 1990.  The only previous filmic treatment of Heinlein's
    premise was a first-season Star Trek TOS episode called "Operation -
    Annihilate."
52.736SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri May 05 1995 15:077
    .732
    
    The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.  Smashing film.  Some
    of the wittiest humour I've seen recently - note especially the
    trailing credits - and a superb performance by Terence Stamp.
    
    But, Martin, Guy Pearce didn't play Priscilla.  Priscilla was the bus.
52.737CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri May 05 1995 15:104
    Yes, yes, yes, therefore the quasi along with the casting od D.S. as
    the main character.  Different story and all, but people being taken
    over by aliens was the theme of the film/book.  The book was better
    IMO.  Either way it was still just okay, IMO etc..
52.738SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri May 05 1995 15:2310
    Well, yasee, Bri, the DS Invasion was already a remake.  The original
    was better IMHO except, perhaps for the final shot of DS.
    
    I agree that the book of Puppet Masters is better than the film.  And
    although it is a classic, I don't rate it as all that good a book.  I
    put "The Mote in God's Eye" at the top of my list, although it has to
    fight to keep from being dethroned by "Neuromancer."  I think it'd be
    knocked off were it not that "Burning Chrome" (the short story) is so
    much better than "Neuromancer" and I can't bring myself to enshrine a
    work less than Gibson's best.
52.739SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri May 05 1995 15:465
    ttlln (no, it's not the wrong topic).
    
    Seeing a commercial for a new film starring Hugh Grant (*without* that
    vapid Andie MacDowall!), titled "The Man Who Went Up a Hill and Came
    Down a Mountain."
52.740PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri May 05 1995 15:586
>>    Seeing a commercial for a new film starring Hugh Grant (*without* that
>>    vapid Andie MacDowall!), titled "The Man Who Went Up a Hill and Came
>>    Down a Mountain."

	yes - it looks enjoyable, if only for the fact that Hugh, 
	the incurably cute, is in it.
52.741CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri May 05 1995 16:182
    Andie MacDowall, vapid or not, rings my bell, wets my whistle, makes my
    bow tie twirl etc...
52.742SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri May 05 1995 16:352
    Why, Bri?  She's not pretty, and she couldn't act her way out of a wet
    paper bag.
52.743POLAR::RICHARDSONIndeedy Do Da DayFri May 05 1995 16:381
    Some guys flip for that "matronly" look that she seems to have.
52.744CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri May 05 1995 16:404
    Well, I think she's cute.  Her acting is another matter but there is
    something that I just find attractive about her.  Don't know exactly
    what it is, hard to describe.  
    
52.745SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri May 05 1995 16:412
    WEll, I can imagine Ned flipping for her, but I'd wager Onondaga has
    better taste even at his tender age.
52.746POLAR::RICHARDSONIndeedy Do Da DayFri May 05 1995 16:433
    You um be bang on um arrowhead.

    Onondaga
52.747NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri May 05 1995 16:441
Tarzan liked her.
52.748POLAR::RICHARDSONIndeedy Do Da DayFri May 05 1995 16:461
    Yes, he went ape over her in fact.
52.749NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri May 05 1995 16:501
He gave new meaning to "Rub-a-dub-dub, thanks for the grub."
52.750POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Creamy PresentsFri May 05 1995 17:222
    
    Who DOES Onondaga find attractive?
52.751POLAR::RICHARDSONIndeedy Do Da DayFri May 05 1995 17:343
    Me find um you attractive Mz Debra.
    
    Onondaga
52.752POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Creamy PresentsFri May 05 1995 17:415
    
    8^}
    
    Er...you're not trying to butter me up so that I'll diaper and feed you
    at the bash, are you?
52.753POLAR::RICHARDSONIndeedy Do Da DayFri May 05 1995 17:523
    Me um no use butter, me have better idea.
    
    Onondaga
52.7548^)POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Creamy PresentsFri May 05 1995 17:544
    
    Well, it worked for Marlon Brando 8^o.
    
    {ahem}
52.755NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri May 05 1995 17:541
Is Onondaga weaned?
52.756POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Creamy PresentsFri May 05 1995 17:562
    
    I admit to having a little trepidation over this question...
52.757POLAR::RICHARDSONIndeedy Do Da DayFri May 05 1995 18:011
    I admit to having a little titillation over this question...
52.758 ;*) SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideFri May 05 1995 18:034
        Don't forget one with a pink nose for me, Deb!
        
        &y
        
52.759POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Creamy PresentsFri May 05 1995 18:072
    
    <-- shaddap, you 8^)!
52.760MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryFri May 05 1995 18:094
    > Is Onondaga weaned?
    
    If he has any sense, no. He'll be at it for years to come...
    
52.761JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon May 08 1995 17:275
    Saw "When a man Loves a woman" and cried my flipping eyes out.  I was
    sobbing ... man don't watch this one unless you have a full box of
    tissues.  My kids saw it too, and said it was depressing and didn't
    like it... they couldn't relate much to it, because their experience
    with alcoholism with their Dad was not at all similar.
52.762GOOEY::JUDYThat's Ms. Bitch to you!Mon May 08 1995 18:045
    
    
    	Watched "Ghost" on TV last night for the nth time and still
    	cried.  I'm such a sap.
    
52.763TROOA::COLLINSShazzbot!Mon May 08 1995 18:066
    
    `Jurassic Park' was on last night and I didn't cry at all.  I only
    watched it up until my favorite bit, when the lawyer gets eaten.
    
    :^)
    
52.764SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CMon May 08 1995 18:115
    
    
    	My kids like that part too....;*)
    
    jim 
52.765MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon May 08 1995 18:135
    
    I like that part too, but I'm not so crazy about the part
    where the programmer gets it... :-) :-)
    
    -b
52.766CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenMon May 08 1995 18:176
    I watched J.P last night also.  Very disappointed that they changed the
    part about the big pile o' caca.  I mean really, is there anyone in the
    country that hasn't seen this and therefore been exposed to the "s"
    word?  
    
    Brian
52.767Make that speachesMPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon May 08 1995 18:193
    
    <--- what did they do, claim it was a pile of Bill Clinton speeches?
    
52.768NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon May 08 1995 18:191
I haven't seen it, but I have been exposed to the "s" word once or twice.
52.769PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 08 1995 18:265
	hmm.  i thought it was just as funny with him saying "crap", but
	then again, i do like that Jeff.  perfect delivery.


52.770POLAR::RICHARDSONIndeedy Do Da DayMon May 08 1995 18:375
    I would have liked it better if he had said pile o' caca.

    Which reminds me, I saw a great T-shirt on Saturday. It was one of
    those Coca Cola joke ones, it said "Coma Caca". I coveted it. Not only
    that, I wanted it for myself too!
52.771PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 08 1995 18:404
	i also like it when he says, "...and that's chaos theory."
	purty funny, yep.

52.772MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon May 08 1995 18:415
When I heard JP was gonna be on, and then found that it was delayed
by whatever silly ball game that was, I simply threw the old tape
in the VCR and played the HiFiStereoDolbySurroundSoundUncut version
which was over way before the network's contribution was.

52.773MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon May 08 1995 18:426
    I like the chaos line too, but my personal fave is when he
    says: "Yeah, but the Pirates of the Caribbean don't eat
    the tourists."

    -b
52.774TROOA::COLLINSShazzbot!Mon May 08 1995 18:444
    
    ...and they stole the `OBJECTS IN MIRROR ARE CLOSER THAN THEY APPEAR'
    joke from Gary Larson!!
    
52.775PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 08 1995 18:453
	"must go faster."

52.776CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Mon May 08 1995 19:172
    	Babette's Feast was an interesting flick.  Borrowed it from the
    	library over the weekend.
52.777JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon May 08 1995 19:282
    I liked the carribean one too!  Quite frankly without Jeff the movie
    was a visual and nothing more.
52.778Even turning up the volume doesn't helpMOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon May 08 1995 19:466
re: Babette's Feast

    I've been waiting for the dubbed version. I hate it when you can't
    leave for two minutes to walk into the next room without missing
    some of the dialog.

52.779CSOA1::LEECHMon May 08 1995 20:034
    re: .775
    
    That's one of my favorites, too.  That and the pirate line mentioned
    previously.
52.780CSC32::J_OPPELTWhatever happened to ADDATA?Mon May 08 1995 23:295
    	re .778
    
    	What we saw was dubbed, except where there was singing.  It was
    	interesting to see that many of the lines in english seemed to 
    	closely approximate the lip movements!
52.781CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue May 09 1995 02:3814


 In the last couple of months I've got the last 20 minutes or so of a movie
 with James Earl Jones and (I think) Martin Landau and Rip Torn.  Its a movie
 about a nuclear confrontation that ends when the flying command center crashes
 into a plane that I think is carrying a nuke to the USSR..

Anyway, does anybody know what the name of that movie is?  Having seen the 
ending, I gotta know how it started..



 Jim
52.782Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnTue May 09 1995 03:221
    Ermm, 'Crap' :*)
52.783Think this is it.KIRKTN::AGRAYWage rise----what's that?????Tue May 09 1995 03:248
    
    "By Dawns Early Light",so I have just been informed.
    Seen it a couple of times,but can't remember too much about it,
    except that the President goes missing after a plane crash,and
    the VP or Chief of Staff takes over and is a bit of a nut.
    
    Memory like a hen!!!
    
52.785RDGE44::ALEUC8Tue May 09 1995 12:363
    re "By Dawn's Early Light" -  Rebecca de Mornay - wot a babe
    
    ric
52.786CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue May 09 1995 13:0010

 
Is By Dawn's Early Light available on video?  I just gotsta see it.





 Jim
52.787CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenTue May 09 1995 13:075
    Yes, it is.  You will find only one copy of it in most stores however. 
    It was not popular at the theater and apparently doesn't rent well 
    either.  
    
    Brian
52.788CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue May 09 1995 13:125



 Thanks..
52.789MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryWed May 17 1995 15:3328
    Watched "Natural Born Killers" last night.

    Directed by Oliver Stone.

    Starring Woody Harrelson (White Men Can't Jump) and Juliet Lewis
    (What's Eating Gilbert Grape) with appearances by Tommy Lee Jones,
    Rodney Dangerfield, Russel Means, Robert Downey Jr., etc. etc.

    The movie is Stone's assessment of the state of the American
    TV audience, dominated by tales of death and destruction,
    where the victims are insignificant and the criminals are
    heroes. It's also pure conjecture on my part, but it appears
    that Mr. Stone has been exploring the finer points of organic
    chemistry in his spare time. A strange movie, and for me, not
    a very significant one. I eschew the TV culture which is the
    focus of this piece, so the surreal nature of the violence is
    somewhat lost on me.

    Still, Harrelson is magnificently psychotic in this movie,
    whereas Lewis seems almost type-cast. I doubt it's within
    her own psyche to play a normal character.

    Overall, I'd say this movie amounts to a major wank for Oliver
    Stone, and two hours of head-scratching for the average
    viewer.

    -b
52.790OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Wed May 17 1995 18:314
    Watched "The Jungle Book" last night.  (Jason Scott Lee _and_ Cary
    Elwes -- such a deal.)  Tidy little adventure story, suitable for
    kiddies.  Much like an Indiana Jones movie, but with a slightly younger 
    target audience and lots more animals.
52.791SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotWed May 17 1995 18:334
    .790
    
    Did the Disney version resemble Kipling's version to a degree in excess
    of sharing the same title?
52.792OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Wed May 17 1995 18:414
    Well, let's see.  The boy was named Mowgli, and he was raised by
    wolves, and he befriended a bear cub.  But the cute colonel's daughter
    and the dastardly lieutenant and the search for the lost city were
    strictly modern additions.
52.793TROOA::COLLINSmust ipso facto half not beWed May 17 1995 19:136
    
    I supposed everyone just can't WAIT to see Keanu Reeves act like an
    actor in `Johnny Mnemonic', eh?
    
    :^)
    
52.794SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotWed May 17 1995 19:142
    Keanu Reeves would have to learn how to act before he could act like an
    actor.
52.795Hercules - 1970ODIXIE::ZOGRANYoungest one's walking - OH NO!Wed May 17 1995 20:1026
    Saw a truly terrible movie over the weekend.

    Whilst channel surfing I came across a scene which appeared to be a
    young Ahnold fighting a bunch of deckhands on a freighter.  I grabbed
    the TB Glide and discovered that the movie was "Hercules", and that it
    was made in 1970.

    Hmm, Hercules on a modern day freighter?  It turns out that ol' Herc was
    sent from the past to the present to some good deed or another.

    Anyway, the movie was memorable(?) due to the fact that all of the
    characters were using their own voices except for Ahnold!  He was
    dubbed in an English speaking movie!  Guess the Austrian accent
    just didn't cut it for a Greek god.

    He was also incredibly pumped up.  I guess that in 1970 he was still
    competing in bodybuilding contests and was probably still on the juice.
    (insert universal sign for personal opinion).

    And no expense was spared on the special effects, including a flashback
    to Zeus throwing a re-bar lightning bolt.

    Bet ol' Ahnold doesn't show this one during "Movies I made" week.

    Dan
      
52.796SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CThu May 18 1995 14:418
    
    
    	re .795
    
    	hehe..yeah, I've seen some clips from Hercules. too funny....:)
    
    
    jim
52.797I'll have to catch it next timeDECWIN::RALTOIt's a small third world after allThu May 18 1995 15:327
    I also happened to stumble over that Hercules movie the other
    night, and I had no idea what I was witnessing.  :-)  Arnie
    with someone else's voice, strange costumes, incomprehensible
    action.  Looks like I should've stayed with it for some laughs,
    but unfortunately I mashed the "+" button and moved on...
    
    Chris
52.798POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Creamy PresentsThu May 18 1995 16:563
    
    Was this the movie "Hercules in New York", or another Arnie-as-Hercules
    movie?							
52.799MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryThu May 18 1995 16:596
    
    It seems that any movie I can think of on the subect of Hercules
    is laughably bad (regardless of who played him). Was the Herc-meister
    ever the subject of a decent movie? Not that I recall...
    
    -b                                                      
52.801451TROOA::COLLINSmust ipso facto half not beThu May 18 1995 17:101
    
52.802Vague memories of brushing concrete columns asideDECWIN::RALTOIt's a small third world after allThu May 18 1995 17:1110
    The very first movie that I ever saw in a movie theater as a kid
    was one of the Steve Reeves "Hercules" or "Hercules Unchained"
    movies around 1959-60 (at the old Braintree Theater on the edge
    of Braintree Square, for you South Shore Mass. dwellers).
    
    I thought it was a comedy, and I laughed all the way through it.
    Good thing it was a matinee, or they probably would've thrown
    me out...
    
    Chris
52.803ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150kts is TOO slow!Thu May 18 1995 17:525
re: .801

You should have said:

see .451
52.804CSC32::J_OPPELTHe said, 'To blave...'Thu May 18 1995 22:573
    	Saw the original Batman movie with Adam West.
    
    	Corny, but fun, and nostalgic.
52.805He's sleeping?!? Again?!?XEDON::JENSENFri May 19 1995 00:185
    You haven't had the ultimate "Hercules" experience until you've
    watched one via MST3K.
    
    One can also learn how to sell Chevrolets door-to-door.
    
52.806Radar is goodCSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanFri May 19 1995 02:178


 My favorite, right now, MST3K is the one with radar..



 Jim
52.807KAOFS::D_STREETFri May 19 1995 12:251
    Fahrenheit 90210 ??
52.808XEDON::JENSENFri May 19 1995 16:072
    Jim!  Hey, you're not Mr. B. Natural, are you???
    
52.809CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanFri May 19 1995 16:105



 I have enough to handle being Muppet Man, thank you very much ;-)
52.811WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon May 22 1995 10:064
    watched the professional friday night (Gary Oldman). good guy
    movie (acting's about a 7 - story's about a 7).
    
    Chip
52.812DASHER::RALSTONAnagram: Lost hat on MarsMon May 22 1995 14:017
    I watched "Wrestling Ernest Hemmingway" yesterday. Richard Harris was
    great. I really enjoyed it. It wasn't deep, it was just fun and sad at
    the same time.
    
    Anybody else like it?
    
    ...Tom
52.813CSOA1::LEECHMon May 22 1995 14:3510
    I rented Highlander III (or the "real" #2) over the weekend.  Seemed
    very average to me.  I guess I was expecting more from it.  
    
    Parental warning: most of the movie is fairly tame, but there is one
    scene totally inappropriate for the kiddies- thus the "R" rating.  The
    other romantic scenes aren't any worse than what you see on regular tv
    (which, admittedly, is becoming worse every year).
    
    
    -steve
52.814BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon May 22 1995 15:106
| <<< Note 52.813 by CSOA1::LEECH >>>

| (which, admittedly, is becoming worse every year).


	One person's worse is another person't better.... :-)
52.815STRATA::KDYERThu May 25 1995 02:576
    re: 52.811
    
    This film came and went from the cinamas, But Gary Oldmans performance
    is terrific. He never does a bad movie, though he tends to play bad
    guys or characters on the edge(Dracula, Sid in "Sid and Nancy"
    Beathoven(sp) and cameo rolls.)
52.816beat Mz. Debra to it...8^)CSOA1::LEECHThu May 25 1995 13:291
    cinEmas
52.817POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of Deadly WeaponsThu May 25 1995 13:385
    
    8^)
    
    I was still puzzling over whether cameo rolls were anything like Parker
    House rolls 8^).
52.818TROOA::COLLINSOn a wavelength far from home.Sun May 28 1995 22:507
    
    I just saw `Crimson Tide'.
    
    I give it two Xs:
    
    Excellent and exciting.
    
52.819COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon May 29 1995 03:229
I saw it this evening as well.

I would agree with the exciting; the excellent goes too far; there
were a number of technical inaccuracies.  They should have had a
Tom Clancy type expert for a consultant.

But it was good.

/john
52.820DASHER::RALSTONAnagram: Lost hat on MarsMon May 29 1995 05:355
    Just saw "Braveheart" yesterday. I really enjoyed it. Mel Gibson was
    great. I'm now in love with the actress who played the princess,
    beautiful!!!!
    
    ...Tom
52.821TROOA::COLLINSOn a wavelength far from home.Mon May 29 1995 12:218
    
    .819, John C:
    
    Us non-sub types are easily fooled.   ;^)
    
    However, I know what you mean.  Technical flaws (when I spot them)
    can ruin an otherwise perfectly good movie for me.
    
52.822POLAR::RICHARDSONIndeedy Do Da DayMon May 29 1995 13:183
    A lot like the scriptures isn't it?
    
    ;-)
52.823 :^) TROOA::COLLINSOn a wavelength far from home.Mon May 29 1995 13:301
    
52.824CSEXP2::ANDREWSI'm the NRAMon May 29 1995 23:204
    Saw Johnny Mnemonic Friday night.
    
    Nothing like what I was expecting, even though Gibson did write/cowrite
    the screen play.  FX were pretty cool though.
52.825BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Tue May 30 1995 13:238
    
    	I saw "American Anthem" [the gymnastics movie from about 10
    	years ago].  Not bad ... for someone who's not generally a
    	gymnastics fan.
    
    	Janet Jones is gorgeous ... is she a gymnast?  It looked like
    	she was doing the routines herself.
    
52.826SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue May 30 1995 14:459
    .824
    
    > Johnny Mnemonic
    
    I'm told Molly was written out.  If Gibson wrote - or even blessed -
    the screenplay, he must have been under the influence of a serious
    overdose of money.  Without Molly the story isn't worth the paper it
    was printed on, let alone the celluloid to make a movie out of it. 
    Crap.  Pure crap.
52.827OUTSRC::HEISERMaranatha!Tue May 30 1995 17:565
>    	Janet Jones is gorgeous ... is she a gymnast?  It looked like
>    	she was doing the routines herself.
    
    I think this is Wayne Gretzsky's wife.  She is/was an aerobics
    instructor of some sort.
52.828CSEXP2::ANDREWSI'm the NRATue May 30 1995 18:5112
    Molly is gone,  He replaced her with a street-samurai wanna-be named
    Jane.  I think Molly would have been better.  Jones is still there, as
    is heaven, but there is no final 'match' up there.  The Yakuza guy with
    the thumb is there too.
    
    The story has been expanded.  Johnny finds out what data he is
    carrying, and why it's so important.  We also discover how the couriers
    are implanted with the memory resources.
    
    Spoiler about Jane
    
    She and Johhny fall in love at the end.  Eeew.
52.829SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue May 30 1995 19:476
52.831SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVETS Palo AltoTue May 30 1995 19:503
    when he wants to, he cuts pretty deep don't he?
    
    DougO
52.832NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue May 30 1995 19:511
So Binder-san, does the Nausea paper pay you by the word?
52.833PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue May 30 1995 19:543
  the Typograph?

52.834SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue May 30 1995 20:003
    .832
    
    No.
52.835GOOEY::JUDYThat's Ms. Bitch to you!Tue May 30 1995 20:076
    
    
    	I saw it.  I've never read the book.  The special effects
    	were cool but other than that I wasn't all that impressed
    	with the movie.
    
52.836GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberWed May 31 1995 12:1811
    
    
    
    Saw Gump over the weekend, pretty good movie.  Usually, when a flick is
    hyped up so much by everyone, it turns out to be a huge disappointment. 
    Not so for FG.  A bit long, but it was good enough to keep my interest
    and not feel as though they ruined the movie by making it too long.
    
    
    
    Mike
52.837CSOA1::LEECHWed May 31 1995 12:466
    <-- my impression, too.  Pretty good, a bit long, but kept my interest. 
    It was worth renting.  I thought the movie was a bit sad, personally. 
    Not the normal type of movie I rent- I don't like being depressed.
    
    
    -steve
52.838GOOEY::JUDYThat's Ms. Bitch to you!Thu Jun 01 1995 19:519
    
    	addendum to the Johnny Mnemonic discussion..
    
    	According to this week's Digital Today, Digital PCs were used
    	to create a lot of the cyberspace imagery created in the
    	movie.  And Sony New Technologies is running a scavenger hunt
    	on the net having to do with the movie and Digital.
    
    
52.839NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Jun 01 1995 20:344
>    	        And Sony New Technologies is running a scavenger hunt
>    	on the net having to do with the movie and Digital.
    
Lots of obsolete equipment to scavenge in the halls of Mother DEC.
52.840CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenTue Jun 06 1995 13:225
    Watched Serial Mom on HBO the other night.  Glad I missed it at the
    theater and the rental shop.  I usually do not get disturbed over a
    flick but I found the dark humor to be a little distressing in this
    one.  There were some funny spots but for the most part, I would
    recommend a pass on this one IMO.
52.841BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Tue Jun 06 1995 15:569
    
    	Her "War of the Roses" was quite similar, both in content and
    	"audience reaction".
    
    	Very black humor, that might be a little too "black" to be
    	very funny.
    
    	Of course, I liked them both.  But not all would.
    
52.842OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Jun 06 1995 17:366
    Re: .842
    
    "Serial Mom" had a lot of gross stuff that horror flick fans could
    probably tolerate, but it was a bit rough for me.  Other than that, I
    liked it fine.  "War of the Roses" didn't have much gore, but it was
    emotionally very harsh.  Different, but a good movie.
52.843Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnWed Jun 07 1995 03:156
    I forgot to mention that I watched 'The Professional' on Saturday. I'm
    not sure what to say about this one. It was pretty clear to see what 
    was going to happen. There wasn't much of a story line, however, it 
    was entertaining I guess.
    
    4-10
52.844Stinque du jour...GAAS::BRAUCHERTue Jun 13 1995 12:424
    
      Whatever else you do, do NOT see "Congo".
    
      bb
52.845GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed LadyTue Jun 13 1995 13:0219
    
    
    this weekend, i treated myself to the 'classics' (at least that is what
    the tv station was calling them).  i watched 'the three musketeers'
    starring richard chamberlain and some other guy i recongnize but couldn't
    name (he played 'dartagne' (sp)) and raquel welch and faye dunaway... 
    most amusing movie...raquel was pretty funny...she plays a great clutz.
    best acting job i've seen her in...loved the ending...
    
    also watched 'the count of monte cristo', also starring richard
    chamberlain (the following movie aslo starred him, but i didn't watch
    that one), and tony curtis.  read this book back in high in
    french...thank god for english translations...good movie...sad ending,
    but i sorta expected it (not because i had already read the
    book...forgot all that i had read 8+ years ago)...
    
    a very lazy sunday...
    
    
52.846POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PasshionTue Jun 13 1995 13:078
    
    Omigawd, the Three Musketeers!  When that came out in the 70s, I
    immediately fell madly in love with Michael York (D'Artagnan).  Oliver
    Reed was...um...oh, I forget.  Porthos?  And who was the 4th guy?  I 
    haven't seen that in YEARS, that and the sequel "The Four Musketeers".
                 
    Hey, wait a minute!  That movie can't be more than 20 years old. 
    That's a classic?
52.847BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Tue Jun 13 1995 13:273
    
    	Was Michael York the guy from "Logan's Run"?
    
52.848yesTROOA::COLLINSGreen Eggs and HamletTue Jun 13 1995 13:301
    
52.849GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed LadyTue Jun 13 1995 16:5812
    
    
    deb...the tv guide said 1974...that's 21 years...don't know if it is
    considered a classic, but that is what channel 68 was promoting the
    afternoon as...
    
    it was a good movie...i like it.  heard of but know know if i should
    know oliver reed.  the 4th guy, the on with the short hair and first
    one to challenge d'artagne to some manner lessons looked rather
    familiar.  so did york...what else was he in????
    
    
52.850More creativity from JollywoodDECWIN::RALTOBatman &amp; Robin in '96Tue Jun 13 1995 17:027
    Re-makes coming soon to a theater near you:
    
    "Sgt. Bilko", starring Steve Martin in the Phil Silvers role.
    
    "The Nutty Professor", starring Eddie Murphy in the Jerry Lewis role.
    
    Chris
52.851OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Jun 13 1995 20:373
    The 1973/1974 movies are certainly the best of the Musketeer movies. 
    When the latest (Disney) remake came out, I rented them to show my
    friends what a Musketeer movie could (and should) be.
52.852NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jun 13 1995 20:401
If it's from Disney, it should be spelled "Mouseketeer."
52.853OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Jun 13 1995 20:422
    No, this was the one with Kiefer Sutherland and Chris O'Donnell.  No
    mouse ears.
52.854SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVETS Palo AltoTue Jun 13 1995 21:016
    waitaminute, the Clark Gable version had its moments too- the duel
    scene where he joined in with the 3M when the Cardinal's Guards showed
    up was more a dance than a swordfight, but spectacular; and Olivia de
    Haviland as Milady di Winter, scary.
    
    DougO
52.855OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Jun 13 1995 21:212
    The movie places didn't have that one.  They did have one with Gene
    Kelly, but I've chosen to overlook it.
52.856OK, so I have a good memoryTROOA::TEMPLETONBuilt for Comfort not SpeedWed Jun 14 1995 02:5517
    .854
    
    Your age is showing :-)
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    To be honest, I was about to mention that one too but was loath to
    admit my memory was that long.
    
    
    joan
52.857Virtual reality glove?MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Jun 14 1995 03:1110
bb>      Whatever else you do, do NOT see "Congo".


Caught it this past weekend with my oldest.

It's odd what they do when they take a technothriller written in the
late70's-early 80's and try to bring it up to date with the mid-90's.

It's not good, just odd.

52.858Oh wheely?SMURF::WALTERSWed Jun 14 1995 12:446
    
    >Re-makes coming soon to a theater near you:
    > "Sgt. Bilko", starring Steve Martin in the Phil Silvers role.
    > "The Nutty Professor", starring Eddie Murphy in the Jerry Lewis role.
    
    What?  No "Man Called Ironside" starring Christopher Reeve?
52.859WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jun 14 1995 14:351
    -1 Bwahahahaha
52.860CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanFri Jun 16 1995 16:1410


  I saw some publicity a couple weeks ago about "Apollo 13" with Tom Hanks,
 and haven't heard anything since.  Does anyone know when/if this is due
 to hit the silver screen?



 Jim
52.861TROOA::COLLINSSwizzle Sticks of the DamnedFri Jun 16 1995 16:153
    
    Should be out by the end of the month, I believe.
    
52.863CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanMon Jun 19 1995 13:079


 Saw Batman Forever on Saturday.  Kinda fun, though I liked the feeling of
 the other Batman movies.



 Jim
52.864BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Jun 19 1995 15:148


	I saw Jonny Mnumonic (sp?) Saturday night. I can now see why it's only
in a couple of theaters. It would be ok to rent, but not ok to pay $7.50 for....



52.865NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Jun 19 1995 15:151
A plague on Johnny Pneumonic!
52.866TROOA::COLLINSImagine a world without sunglasses.Mon Jun 19 1995 15:173
    
    Wasn't it `Johnny Pneumatic'?
    
52.867MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon Jun 19 1995 15:2030
    Movies:

    Batman 1. Excellent. 4 out of 5.

    Batman 2. Total, unequivocal, crap. Cristopher Walken sucks. Period.
              Danny Devito was the worst of all the Batman villains,
              more obviously so after Jack Nicholson's performance in
              Batman 1. 1 out of 5.

    Batman 3. Seriously flawed. I like it, but the list of flaws in
              this movie is so long, I simply cannot recommend it to
              anyone else. I don't have time to go into all of it,
              but one glaring gaffe is that they spend the entire
              movie building up the Robin (Chris O'Donnell) character,
              only to have him sit out the finale/climax in a bird cage.
              Whooops. Several continuity and filming errors too, which
              are not something I would expect from the likes of Tim
              Burton (who, granted, did not direct the movie, but as
              producer, I would expect he would have kept a better eye
              on things). 3- out of 5.

    And a 5 out of 5 you can rent at your local video store:

    The Shawshank Redemption, starring Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman.
    This prison film is superbly written, directed and acted. The
    best prison movie ever made. IMO of course. If your mileage varies,
    you mileage also sucks. IMO, of course... :-)

    -b
52.868TROOA::COLLINSImagine a world without sunglasses.Mon Jun 19 1995 15:235
    
    The "best" prison movie?   ;^)
    
    What about `Cool Hand Luke'?  What about `The Longest Yard'?
    
52.869BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Jun 19 1995 15:263

	Do you really want to hear about the best, err... prison movie??? :-)
52.870MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon Jun 19 1995 15:297
    > What about `Cool Hand Luke'?  What about `The Longest Yard'?
    
    Very good, even excellent movies. But what we have heah is a
    failya to commun'kate. The Shawshank Redemption is the best
    of the breed.
    
    -b
52.871and Walken doesn't suckPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jun 19 1995 15:305
    

	i am wichoo, mr. collins.  actually, "bad boys" (sean penn version)
	made more of a lasting impression on me than did shawshank.

52.872I'm trying to remember the last time I saw a better movie....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Jun 19 1995 15:3215
    
    re: The Shawshank Redemption
    
    I really hate watching Tim Robbins "act".
    
    But I loved The Shawshank Redemption.
    
    
    Free clue for Hollywood.
    
    READ MORE SHORT STORIES AND TURN THEM INTO MOVIES!
    
    Thank you.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.873PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jun 19 1995 15:345
    
>    I really hate watching Tim Robbins "act".

	yeah, seriously overrated.

52.874Walken doesn't suck but Robbins is overrated... ho effin ho!MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon Jun 19 1995 15:4315
    > and Walken doesn't suck

    Oh no, not at all. :-) His acting runs the full range of emotions
    from A to B. Granted Walken has had some decent moments, but his
    style, which reminds me more of a series of still-life poses than
    acting, wears mighty thin. Of course, he's also an easy target
    following that wretched pig of a Batman film. Gack.

    Bad Boys was also an excellent movie. Overall, some of the best
    films ever made were prison films. But Shawshank is special,
    unseating "Cool Hand Luke" as the top of the heep. And with
    that... see ya; things to do...

    -b
52.875PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jun 19 1995 15:5813
>>    Granted Walken has had some decent moments, but his
>>    style, which reminds me more of a series of still-life poses than
>>    acting, wears mighty thin.

	Agreed, it could wear thin.  He has been perfect for some parts
	though - in The Dead Zone, Biloxi Blues, True Romance... a 
	riveting face, imo, ominously expressionless.  I'm not saying
	he's in a league with Olivier, Scofield, etc., but he's one of
	those oddball characters that's interesting to see pop up in places.
	A hell of a lot more interesting than Robbins. ;>


52.876French Kiss then Die HardDOCTP::KELLERSpprt smlr gvt. http://www.lp.org/lp/lp.htmlMon Jun 19 1995 16:369
saw French Kiss and Die Hard 3 on saturday (gotta love the drive-in, two 
movies/four people/$12).

French Kiss is a cute but predictible love story. Quite enjoyable.

Die Hard 3 -- Yet another Die Hard movie, they'll never win any awards but 
they are lots of fun.  Bruce Willis loves to get dirty

geoff
52.878GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberMon Jun 19 1995 17:106
    
    
    Saw "Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Cyle" last night.  A good bit slow,
    but there was something about it.  
    
    Mike
52.879TROOA::COLLINSImagine a world without sunglasses.Mon Jun 19 1995 17:136
    
    I like prison movies that *don't* have happy endings, like `The Glass 
    House', with Vic Morrow and Alan Alda.
    
    Shawshank *was* very good, however.   ;^)
    
52.880TROOA::COLLINSImagine a world without sunglasses.Mon Jun 19 1995 18:499
    
    .872
    
    >Free clue for Hollywood.
    >READ MORE SHORT STORIES AND TURN THEM INTO MOVIES!
    
    I've always wanted to see a movie version of Arthur C. Clarke's 
    `Breaking Strain'.
    
52.881CSC32::J_OPPELTHe said, 'To blave...'Tue Jun 20 1995 03:366
    	Funny someone should mention Cool Hand Luke.  I'm recovering
    	from surgery this week, and have a lot of time on my hands.
    
    	Today's fare included CHL and Yellow Submarine.  Tomorrow,
    	Elephant Man.  I've also reserved the whole Roots series
    	from the library for later this week.
52.882WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jun 20 1995 10:1519
    i agree that Shawshank has unseated Cool Hand Luke as the best.
    i really don't care for Robbins either. Freeman,on the other
    hand, is terrific.
    
    Speaking of Bad Boys, did anyone recognize the sadistic head guard as
    one of the bullies the Sean dispatched with a pillow case full of soda?
    (in Shawshank)
    
    watched Interview With A Vampire Friday. my wife lasted 5 minutes
    because she couldn't take the gore. it was different vampire movie
    and entertaining. that's about all i feel about it.
    
    watched Safe Passage (Susan Sarandon - love that woman, but she should
    drop Robbins). i thought it was a wonderful character study and a very
    under-rated/under-advertised film. highly recommend it.
    
    watched Kalifornia (Brad Pitt). ehhh, don't bother.
    
    Chip
52.883GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberTue Jun 20 1995 11:165
    
    Hope you mend quick, Joe.
    
    
    Mike
52.884BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Jun 20 1995 12:086
| <<< Note 52.882 by WMOIS::GIROUARD_C >>>


| watched Kalifornia (Brad Pitt). ehhh, don't bother.

	Gee Chip.... did he take his clothes off or somethin??? :-)
52.885WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jun 20 1995 12:325
    gee Glen, i don't think he did but there was a scene where he was in a
    car making love with his girl friend but all you saw was feet and his
    head.
    
    Chip
52.886or was it a VW? ;-)WAHOO::LEVESQUEMr BlisterTue Jun 20 1995 12:411
     That sounds like an interesting position.
52.887CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenTue Jun 20 1995 14:325
    I saw Interview with Vampire last week also and did not find it gory at
    all, certainly no more than your average shoot 'em up.  I thought the
    story line interesting, good vampires and evil vampires.  
    
    Brian
52.888WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jun 20 1995 14:385
    Brian, she took exception to Val's propensity for rat and doggy
    blood. She hates the spooky stuff anyway. 
    
    I would, however, put it a cut above any of the westerns I've ever
    seen (in the bloody category).
52.889POLAR::RICHARDSONTue Jun 20 1995 14:512
    I found the X-Files Vampire episode much scarier than interview with a
    vampire was.
52.890SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue Jun 20 1995 15:279
    .889
    
    > I found the X-Files Vampire episode much scarier than interview with a
    > vampire was.
    
    Perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of "Interview with the Vampire." 
    It was not intended to be a "scary" story in the usual sense.  It was
    written as gothic horror, which is an entirely different literary
    beast.
52.891yawnPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 20 1995 15:347
>>    Perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of "Interview with the Vampire." 
>>    It was not intended to be a "scary" story in the usual sense.  It was
>>    written as gothic horror, which is an entirely different literary
>>    beast.

	Yes, well, I found it pretty horrible indeed.  ;>

52.892SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue Jun 20 1995 15:444
    .891
    
    You would.  You prolly don't like Lovecraft, either.  (Not that I think
    Rice is a patch on him, however!)
52.893PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 20 1995 16:005
    Richard, wachoo mean "You would."? ;>  I tried like heck to like
    Interview, but found it quite boring.  Almost as obtuse as Jack
    and his trip to Cajun country, but not quite.

52.894MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Jun 20 1995 16:054
> but not quite.

It would be difficult to parallel that, would it not?

52.895PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 20 1995 16:077
>>It would be difficult to parallel that, would it not?

	Indeed, my dear.  You have set a new standard for obtuseness,
	in fact.


52.896Pocahontas and FabioDECWIN::RALTOI hate summerTue Jun 20 1995 16:3217
    re: Pocahontas
    
    In the promos currently being shown on TV, scenes with cute,
    furry, little animals take up well over half of the time, perhaps
    even more than three-quarters of the time, in the ads.
    
    Is this representative of the actual movie?  Somehow, I doubt it.
    
    As long as six months ago, the captive audience in a theater at
    the time were "treated" to a seemingly-endless five-minute trailer
    for this movie, and the kids were so turned off by it that they
    vowed never to see it.  I figured that when it actually came out,
    they'd change their minds and want to see it, but they haven't.
    
    I have no problem with that.  :-)
    
    Chris
52.897SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue Jun 20 1995 16:509
    .893
    
    > Richard, wachoo mean "You would."? ;>  I tried like heck to like
    > Interview, but found it quite boring.
    
    Ah, my dear, one does not *try* to like something like Interview.  One
    likes it, or one dislikes it.  Which is my experience with gothic
    horror in general - some people adore Poe, others think he's twaddle. 
    Same for Hodgeson, Lovecraft, Morris, et al.
52.898where is Disney going?OUTSRC::HEISERMaranatha!Tue Jun 20 1995 17:055
    I find it interesting that the secular press in the June 9th and June
    16th editions of USA Today have said that Pocohauntas is not for
    children.
    
    Mike
52.899PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 20 1995 17:067
	Well, just because I wasn't impressed with Interview, that doesn't
	mean I don't like the whole genre, or even that I don't like Rice.

	I kept hoping that it would get better, but it didn't.  C'est
	la guerre.

52.900NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jun 20 1995 17:131
Pocahontas.  NNTTM.
52.901SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue Jun 20 1995 17:155
    .899
    
    Well, if pressed I would admit that nothing of Rice's I've ever read has
    anything like the fascination of something like "The Call of Cthulhu"
    or "The Amityville Horror."
52.902POLAR::RICHARDSONTue Jun 20 1995 17:296
    So, Gothic horror isn't supposed to be scary. Perhaps I used the wrong
    word. Boring is a good one, but Di used it first. So, perhaps dull
    would be my choice, it dragged.

    X-Files wasn't Gothic horror, but it was better horror than interview
    was in my opinion.
52.903SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue Jun 20 1995 17:5114
    .902
    
    > So, Gothic horror isn't supposed to be scary
    
    Wrong.  What most people think of as scary these days is something
    actively scary, like the movie "Alien."  In literature, this kind of
    scariness is classified as terror, because you know what's going on. 
    Gothic horror is subliminally eerie.  You know something is wrong, but
    you don't know exactly what it is or why.  Poe verges on it, especially
    in the portion of "The Pit and the Pendulum" dealing with the pit.  H.
    P. Lovecraft was a genius at it; "The Amityville Horror" is chilling. 
    William Hodgson's novel "The Boats of the Glen Carrig" is a true
    masterpiece of the genre; it gave me the creeps for weeks after I read
    it.
52.904PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 20 1995 17:573
   .903  oh sure.  where were all these suggestions when i was being
	 told to try Patricia and "CArl"?  hmmmm?  ;>
52.905POLAR::RICHARDSONTue Jun 20 1995 18:011
    I stand corrected.
52.906OOps, should be CArl.SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue Jun 20 1995 18:0210
    .904
    
    When you were being told to try Patricia and Carl, the discussion was
    centered on their style of writing, not on horror stuff that's half a
    century or more in age.
    
    'Sides, you're probably going to have a great deal of difficulty
    locating a copy of "The Boats of the Glen Carrig" because it's long out
    of print.  Lovecraft's stories are easier to find; he's been
    anthologized with fair regularity.
52.907PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 20 1995 18:056
>>    'Sides, you're probably going to have a great deal of difficulty
>>    locating a copy of "The Boats of the Glen Carrig" because it's long out
>>    of print.

	oh sure.  tease me mercilessly.  it's the story of my life.

52.908SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue Jun 20 1995 18:121
    Read some Lovecraft.  If you like it, we'll talk.
52.910PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 20 1995 18:175
       
>>       This is like soap opera at its very worst.

	without the sex though.

52.912good movieTROOA::TEMPLETONBuilt for Comfort not SpeedWed Jun 21 1995 02:179
    On Saturday Night at the Movies, on our local PBS station they ran The
    League of Gentlemen. I dont know if its because I am not used to seeing
    actors like Jack Hawkins playing a bad guy, or, as they say, there is a
    little bit of larceny in all of us, I would have loved to see those
    guy's get away with the money.
    
    
    
    joan
52.913CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanWed Jun 21 1995 02:268

 I rented "Hondo", the John Wayne movie that Howie Carr is always
 giving away on WRKO.  Gonna watch it in just a leetle bit.



 Jim
52.914Midnight musings on Gothic HorrorMKOTS3::CASHMONa kind of human gom jabbarWed Jun 21 1995 06:0445
    
    re:  the previous discussion of gothic horror (which, of course, 
    has little to do with the general subject of "Movies.")
    
    
    The inimitable Mr. Binder hit the proverbial nail on the head when
    he opined that in gothic horror, there is an eerie, palpable feeling
    that something, or everything, has gone wrong.  However, the idea is
    bigger than that.  Especially in Lovecraft, but also in other examples
    of the genre, what is so horrifying is that everything that humanity
    and human civilizations trust and believe in is only the most ephemeral
    veneer, the thinnest crust over vast yawning chasms of madness.
    
    In other words, there is a difference in scope between horror and
    terror.  Terror is in the here and now:  Jason, Freddy Krueger, or 
    some other typical axe-wielding psychopath.  Horror is much bigger
    and less defined, but more weird and awful.  I can handle some
    goofball in a hockey mask with a meat cleaver.  I can't handle Cthulhu.
    I can't handle an omnipotent, amorphous, insane, idiot being that is
    evil and destructive to its core.  The idea is just too horrible.
    
    The example that most people might be familiar with is "The Raven," by
    Edgar Allan Poe.  All that happens in the story is that a bird flies
    into the guy's room.  Not much terror there; the man is never in any
    physical danger.  What makes it a perfect example of gothic horror
    is the awful feeling of doom and despair evoked by the story, the 
    awful yet certain knowledge that there is MUCH more going on here
    than meets the eye, and just what the raven means when he says, 
    "Nevermore."
    
    There is a short prelude to Clive Barker's story "Dread" which I 
    think really sums up the difference between horror and terror.  Terror
    is a short-term fear for one's life or well-being.  Horror carries with
    it the implicit knowledge that there is much that is worse than simple,
    quick death.  There is madness without the possibility of sanity.  There
    is pain and suffering without hope of end or relief.
    
    And...there is dread.
    
    
    
    
    Rob
    
    
52.915GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Wed Jun 21 1995 06:4012
re <<< Note 52.914 by MKOTS3::CASHMON "a kind of human gom jabbar" >>>

>Horror carries with
>    it the implicit knowledge that there is much that is worse than simple,
>    quick death.  There is madness without the possibility of sanity.  There
>    is pain and suffering without hope of end or relief.
    
Sounds like an eternity of Mondays...  aaaaarrrrghhhhhhh!


Chele    

52.916WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jun 21 1995 09:581
    awww go on... it's all in your head.
52.917Ooops, forgot one.MKOTS3::CASHMONa kind of human gom jabbarWed Jun 21 1995 10:424
    
    Okay, Chele, consider my list revised to include Mondays under
    "Things Worse than Death."  ;-)
    
52.918SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotWed Jun 21 1995 15:307
    .914
    
    I'd forgotten that Clive Barker dissertation on the different kinds of
    fear.  Thanks for refreshing my memory.
    
    You're exactly right about Cthulhu.  Bad dreams for a long time after
    that one.
52.919My public library has some old horor stuffTIS::HAMBURGERREMEMBER NOVEMBER: FREEDOM COUNTSWed Jun 21 1995 15:5315
I think it is involved with "life experiences" for me to watch Jason for 
example I really look for all the stupid things the various actors do and rate 
them on how much(or little) they deserved to get killed based on their own
dumb actions I score higher or lower points based on whether a person knows of
one/some/all of the previous murders. The first victim gets a free-pass :-}
I know how I would deal with it and I have no belief in the unkillable
humanoid, (see the gun topic :-} :-})

Lovecraft is, on the other hand, the type of stories where the characters
have no control, that the evil will do whatever it wants, no one is saved by
some idiot running in waving a cross/star/pentacle at the last minute.
I can never see Portsmouth harbor without thinking of his stories. :-}

Amos
52.920CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitWed Jun 21 1995 16:407
    I saw "Blame it On Rio" last night.
    
    Typically dodgy bit of Michael Caine,but what a luverly pair of 
    juberlies the leading lady had. Worth watching just for that.	
    
    It also featured a rather flat Demi Moore.
    
52.921OUTSRC::HEISERMaranatha!Wed Jun 21 1995 19:126
    Re: -1
    
    I have a friend that went to high school locally with Michelle Johnson. 
    It seems she's been playing that role well for quite some time.
    
    Mike
52.922TROOA::COLLINSAural SectsThu Jun 22 1995 20:1510
    
    I'm torn.  I'm looking forward to `Apollo 13', but at the same time,
    I *hated* `Backdraft' (Ron Howard's last movie), and I'm wondering if
    he can do the story justice or whether he'll just substitute a loud,
    overbearing musical track for genuine emotion.
    
    Of course, there's always `Judge Dredd'.  It's got a big, scary robot!
    What more could you ask for?
    
    
52.923UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonThu Jun 22 1995 20:1910
>    I'm torn.  I'm looking forward to `Apollo 13', but at the same time,
>    I *hated* `Backdraft' (Ron Howard's last movie), and I'm wondering if

Huh? Howard's last movie was "Backdraft"??? I don't think so... I think
the last one I remember was "The Paper".

"Backdraft" was made like what, 5 or 6 years ago???

/scott    
    
52.924SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBe vewy caweful of yapping zebwasThu Jun 22 1995 20:217
    
    
    I caught a snippet of the previews for the new "Apollo 13" movie
    flashing across the TV screen last night, and the damage shown in the
    movie is extremely exaggerated vs. what really occured... Which is par
    for the course in Hollywood....
    
52.925TROOA::COLLINSAural SectsThu Jun 22 1995 20:237
    
    Oh.  `The Paper'.  Forgot about that one (though I never did see it).
    
    As Ed McMahon would say...
    
    "You are correct, sir!"
    
52.927I hope they read some books before making this movieDECWIN::RALTOI hate summerThu Jun 22 1995 20:4227
    >> I caught a snippet of the previews for the new "Apollo 13" movie
    >> flashing across the TV screen last night, and the damage shown in the
    >> movie is extremely exaggerated vs. what really occured... Which is par
    >> for the course in Hollywood....
    
    I haven't seen this, and I shouldn't be surprised, but I suppose
    I'm disappointed anyway.
    
    If I force myself to be realistic, though, the actual damage and
    the actual dangers were too technically complex and subtle for the
    average moviegoer to follow.  So I shouldn't be too surprised if
    they make it more like "The Translunar Poseidon Adventure".
    
    In any event, I just cannot, will not, accept Tom Hanks as
    Jim Lovell.  They should have cast someone like Kevin Costner,
    who even resembles Lovell somewhat.
    
    The problem with making a movie about this mission is that it will
    be very tempting to fall into melodrama, and furthermore, lots of
    us were "around" when this happened and know something about it.
    Then again, that didn't stop the makers of WWII films from taking
    such liberties.
    
    This could make a pretty good made-for-TV movie, but someone
    obviously got grandiose with it.  We shall see.
    
    Chris
52.928OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Thu Jun 22 1995 21:593
    Well, Rolling Stone gave it a boffo review.  Praised the subtlety of
    various aspects, which implies that it wasn't given the standard
    Disaster Movie treatment.
52.929TROOA::COLLINSAural SectsThu Jun 22 1995 22:034
    
    Well...okay...but I found `Backdraft' to be about as subtle as a
    brick to the head, so I'm a little skeptical.
    
52.930GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberFri Jun 23 1995 11:424
    
    
    Hey, I liked backdraft.  Sure there were flaws, but the special effects
    were great.  
52.931looks like a ripping yarnSMURF::WALTERSFri Jun 23 1995 12:3313
    There was a good article in Pop Sci about the Apollo accident. I got
    the impression that it could have been dangerous had not the ground
    crew, the flight crew and the people at Grumman not been very
    inventive.  The Lander did not have enough CO scrubbers or coolant
    water to make the flight home, but they designed and built
    work-arounds.  No-one know whether the computers would come back online
    and the command module had only 15 minutes power to reboot the systems
    and then make the reentry course adjustments.  Sounds like the stuff of
    a good suspense movie. My wife can't wait to see it as her late father
    supervised one of the Grumman teams that built the Lander.
    
    Colin
    
52.932GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberFri Jun 23 1995 12:388
    
    
    Anyone seen The War, with Kevin Costner?  Is it any good?
    
    
    Thnx,
    
    Mike
52.933SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBe vewy caweful of yapping zebwasFri Jun 23 1995 12:4113
    
    
    Off the subject of any particular movie...
    
    Started to watch a movie last night and before it came on, the screen
    read:
    
      "Edited for Content"...
    
    
      What in blazes does that mean? Is it the new Catch-all term for
    "Edited so we can include a bunch more commercials"???
    
52.934WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Jun 23 1995 12:573
    i saw The War... highly recommend it... 
    
    Chip
52.935good 'unSMURF::WALTERSFri Jun 23 1995 12:592
    
    The War - brilliant.
52.936GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberFri Jun 23 1995 13:076
    
    
    Thanks Cheep and Walters.
    
    
    Mike
52.937WAHOO::LEVESQUEMr BlisterFri Jun 23 1995 13:086
    > "Edited for Content"...
    
    >What in blazes does that mean? 
    
     It means they had some naughty stuff in there that doubtless would
    have given thumpers a woody (or constipation) so they excised it.
52.938SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebwas have foot-in-mouth disease!Fri Jun 23 1995 13:5712
    
    
    <-------
    
    Logan's Run???  From ~20 years ago???
    
    
    This has to go into the conspiracy note!!! The FCC is loaded with
    thumpers???
    
     Oh billy???????  Billy???????
    
52.939MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryFri Jun 23 1995 14:126
    
    "Edited for Content" means if they find any (content) they get
    rid of it... this is TV after all, so content-free is the
    goal.
    
    -b
52.940Farewell Aquarius, and we thank youDECWIN::RALTOI hate summerFri Jun 23 1995 14:3217
    >> My wife can't wait to see it as her late father
    >> supervised one of the Grumman teams that built the Lander.
    
    Really?  I'm impressed.  The Lunar Module has always been my
    favorite spacecraft.  It was by far the most challenging to
    design and build, considering the incredible range of functions
    and the weight and size constraints.  Your wife must be very
    proud of her father.
    
    
    re: Rolling Stone review
    
    Good, that sounds promising.  I'm looking forward to it actually,
    but I've been concerned about the usual toying with history that
    Hollywood traditionally loves to do.
    
    Chris
52.941SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri Jun 23 1995 15:005
    .936
    
    > Thanks Cheep and Walters.
    
    Cheep is Bach, now departed.  You usurpin' his moniker?
52.942SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri Jun 23 1995 15:013
    There was an article in a recent Smithsonian Magazine about the Apollo
    13 incident.  Brought all kinds of memories flooding back.  Well
    written, factual, and gripping first-person stuff.
52.943a bit of family history nowSMURF::WALTERSFri Jun 23 1995 15:098
   > Your wife must be very proud of her father.
    
    She is, and she isn't.  It was a difficult relationship.  We recently
    went to Spaceport USA to show the kids the Lander.  That was a great
    trip.
    
    Colin
    
52.944HANNAH::BECKPaul Beck, MicroPeripheralsMon Jun 26 1995 03:134
    re .938
    
    Since Logan's Run had some nudity in it, I'd expect it to be edited
    "for content" for commercial TV.
52.945WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jun 26 1995 10:317
    watched Legends of the Fall... one of the most moving films i've
    seen (and i don't move easily). i'm purchasing this one.
    
    also Disclosure. i give a 6 out of 10. okay, but not worth seeing
    again.
    
    Chip
52.946NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Jun 26 1995 15:315
from alt.humor.puns:

And Disney made a new movie, about gangs of militant folk musicians in
Eastern Europe who conspire to usurp power in their countries. The title
of the movie is: Polka Juntas.
52.947Apollo 13 background infoDECWIN::RALTOI hate summerMon Jun 26 1995 16:33109
    Here's some background for those of you who are anxiously awaiting
    the "Apollo 13" movie, in case they don't explain some of this well
    enough in the script.  This is from memory after re-reading some
    books last week, so feel free to correct any errors.
    
    <Possible spoiler warning>
    
    
    
    1965, five years before the Apollo 13 mission:  All electrical
    components for the Apollo spacecraft are upgraded from running at
    28 volts to running at 65 volts.
    
    Everything, that is, except the thermostats for the heaters in the
    service module's two oxygen tanks.  No one noticed the oversight.
    
    
    1970, a few months before the Apollo 13 mission:  The #2 oxygen
    tank of Apollo 13's service module is accidentally dropped two inches.
    Some slight damage occurs to the subsystem that purges liquid oxygen
    from the tank during ground tests.
    
    1970, a couple of months before the Apollo 13 mission:  Following a
    ground test of service module systems, engineers are having trouble
    purging liquid oxygen from the #2 oxygen tank.  Engineers propose
    turning on the tank's heaters to vaporize the liquid oxygen and let
    it "boil off" through the venting valves.  The intended Apollo 13
    command module pilot Tom Mattingly, himself a command-service-module
    expert who'd worked with the directly with the engineers for years,
    approves of the procedure, as does Apollo 13 commander Jim Lovell
    and various engineering managers.
    
    The #2 oxygen tank heaters are activated, with the thermostats set
    to 80 degrees.  The 65-volt signal runs through the thermostat
    circuitry that was designed to handle only 28 volts.  The switching
    circuitry becomes fused in the closed position, so that the heater
    cannot shut off upon reaching the desired 80 degrees.
    
    The increasing temperature has the desired effect of purging the
    liquid oxygen through the opened purge valves.  Then, with the
    thermostat melted into a locked-on state, the temperature inside
    the #2 oxygen tank reaches over one thousand degrees.  Near the
    heaters inside the tank is a circulating fan unit that is used during
    flight to mix-up and "homogenize" the liquid oxygen, which tends to
    stratify into density/temperature layers if left alone.  The Teflon
    insulation on the liquid oxygen circulating fan melts away under the
    intense heat.
    
    The engineers and technicians notice nothing of this, because their
    tank temperature gauges only register up to 85 degrees.
    
    
    April, 1970, halfway to the moon:  After a successful television
    broadcast from Apollo 13 that goes mostly uncarried by the networks
    and unwatched by a public that was already bored with lunar missions,
    mission control in Houston contacts Apollo 13 command module pilot
    Jack Swigert, who had replaced Mattingly late in the pre-flight
    training due to concerns that he had become infected with German
    measles.
    
    Houston asks Swigert to switch on the circulating fans in the
    service module's liquid oxygen tanks, as is routinely done at this
    point in mid-flight to "stir up the soup".  Swigert switches on
    the fans.
    
    Inside tank #2, the bare wires of the circulating fan arc and start
    a fire, rapidly building up temperature and pressure.  The top of
    the tank blows off, damaging the plumbing of tank #1, as well as
    filling that entire section of the service module with oxygen and
    damaging other nearby components as well.
    
    When the oxygen pressure inside the cylindrical wedge-shaped section of
    the service module exceeds roughly 30 psi, the external panel of that
    one-sixth section of the service module blows off.  This causes more
    damage to that section, and sends an unexpected shudder through the
    spacecraft (though not as massive as some of the "expected" shudders
    that happen in-flight, such as lunar module undocking).
    
    Swigert feels the shudder and notices the first warning light on
    the instrument panel indicating a voltage drop in one of the two
    electrical supply buses for the spacecraft.  Swigert (not Lovell)
    makes the initial report, "Houston, we've had a problem here."
    
    Because of the exploded #2 oxygen tank and the rapidly leaking #1
    oxygen tank, the three fuel cells which generate all of the spacecraft's
    electricity become depleted and soon stop providing electrical power.
    The Apollo command and service modules are now not only without oxygen,
    they are without electrical power for environmental support, engine
    propulsion, communications, or anything else.  The limited on-board
    battery power in completely inadequate to power the entire spacecraft
    for any length of time, and is intended for (and must be saved for)
    the brief period of time covering re-entry into Earth's atmosphere.
    
    Halfway to the moon, the Apollo 13 command module "Odyssey" is a
    dead spacecraft.  Odyssey is for all intents and purposes an airtight
    can hurtling away from Earth along a path that will cause them to
    whip around the moon and head back toward Earth.  Assuming that
    the astronauts can even manage to survive for the three days of the
    return trip, if they are unable to change their course somehow, they
    will miss Earth by several thousand miles, and die in space.
    
    Attached to Odyssey's docking port at the opposite end of the
    command module, away from the service module explosion, sits a
    shiny new lunar-landing spacecraft named Aquarius, with its own
    electrical, life-support, and propulsion systems, that was designed
    for a very different purpose than the one it was about to be called
    into.  And therein lies "the rest of the story".
    
    Chris
52.948CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanMon Jun 26 1995 16:523

 Wow..
52.950Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnMon Jun 26 1995 23:075
    re .947
    
    I want the rest of the story !!!! GIMME GIMME GIMME.....
    
    please
52.951Not to my taste.GAAS::BRAUCHERTue Jun 27 1995 12:559
    
     Count me among the 1% who disliked Legends of the Fall.  Brad Pitt ?
    
     The plot line of this story doesn't ring true for me.  I did like
    the cinematography and scenery.  Makes you want to move to the
    Big Sky country !
    
     I realize it's a hit.  Oh, well.  bb
    
52.952Patience, patience :-)DECWIN::RALTOI hate summerTue Jun 27 1995 14:0517
    >> I want the rest of the story !!!! GIMME GIMME GIMME.....
    >> please
    
    Now, now... :-)  I only wanted to provide a little bit of techie
    background that I suspect will be largely absent in the movie,
    and the movie's coming out in two days.
    
    Besides, I thought that everyone already knew the ending of this
    story (which is one of the big weaknesses involved in making such
    a movie, anyway... everyone knows how it ends).  If you're young
    enough so that you weren't around at the time, there are some good
    manned space flight history books around that can do a much better
    job of describing this story.  The one by Andrew Chaikin (sp?) that
    I mentioned somewhere in the "What are you reading?" topic is among
    the best, highly recommended (over fifty pages on Apollo 13 alone).
    
    Chris
52.953Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotTue Jun 27 1995 14:314
    Like Howard's other movies, "Apollo 13" is a feel-good film.  It tells
    of a time when we were still a great nation, a nation of heroes, doing
    great things on a shoestring.  Today's NASA could not do what the NASA
    of 1970 did, not even with 10 times the money.
52.954OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Jun 27 1995 14:362
    A nation of unwatched heroes, perhaps.  Media interest in the Apollo 13
    mission was really pretty low until disaster struck.
52.955no mo visionHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeTue Jun 27 1995 14:376
With today's factions, we woulda never got to the moon.

The Republicans woulda said let the states do it. The Democrats woulda
staffed it with quota appointments.

TTom
52.956OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Jun 27 1995 14:397
    Re: .955
    
    >The Democrats woulda staffed it with quota appointments.
    
    You're assuming anyone who fills a quota can't be any good.  The truth
    is, pretty much _anyone_ in a government job, quota or not, can't be
    any good.
52.957as a groupHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeTue Jun 27 1995 14:4610
>    >The Democrats woulda staffed it with quota appointments.
>    
>    You're assuming anyone who fills a quota can't be any good. 

No, but collectively, a staff filled by quotas caint be all that great.
Certainly, I allow for the almost random occurence that the quota pick is
a very good employee. I mean if'n you have a highly qualified lefthanded 
homosexual and that's the nexted slot required, then you got a fit.

TTom
52.958OOTOOL::CHELSEAMostly harmless.Tue Jun 27 1995 16:427
    Re: .957
    
    >that the quota pick is a very good employee.
    
    If you have any quotas, then all employees are quota picks because you
    have quotas for all categories.  It just so happens that the employers
    filled the non-minority quota first....
52.959PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 27 1995 20:475
	saw a strange one last night - "Leolo".  French Canadian kid
	who escapes through imagination from his bizarro family.
	lots of crude stuff going on there.  pretty interesting.

52.960Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnWed Jun 28 1995 00:005
    re . 952
    
    I was an embryo ! 
    
    I just like the little techie bits, that's all. Most interesting.
52.961DEVLPR::DKILLORANM1A - The choice of champions !Wed Jun 28 1995 14:426
    > lots of crude stuff going on there.  pretty interesting.

    Is this the gracious Lady Di ? ! ?

    :-)
    Dan
52.962PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jun 28 1995 14:545
>>    Is this the gracious Lady Di ? ! ?

	well, you know how it is - when the movie's in French, it doesn't
	seem so bad.  it's, er, "artsy" - yeah, that's it. ;>

52.963CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenWed Jun 28 1995 14:592
    So the next time I rent Nymphomaniac Cannibal Candy Stripers From Hell,
    I should get the subtitled version and not feel guilty?  
52.964PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jun 28 1995 15:022
   .963 oui.
52.965The RaptureDECWET::MPETERSONMax OverheadWed Jun 28 1995 23:4334
I know this movie came out a long time ago, but I had occasion to watch it for
the first time a couple of nites ago.  I found the movie to be generally
unimpressive until the last few minutes.  But, then, *wow*, what a message.

I'm wondering if anyone who saw the movie interpreted the ending the same way
I did?  Basically, I thought the last few minutes made the claim that heaven
was available to anyone who claimed to love god, whether true or not. For
example, the sheriff, a non-believer all his life, looked into heaven from
outside the gate and marveled at its wonder and beauty.  Then the little girl
said to him, "All you have to do is *say* you love god, and he'll let you in".  

	"Sure, you bet", he said, "I love god".  Poof, in he went.

By contrast, the character played by Mimi Rogers was unable to lie, believing as
she did that god made her murder her own daughter (The same little girl, BTW). 
For this Roger's character hated god and could not bring herself to lie, even
tho' it meant eternal damnation.  Despite the pleading from her angelic
daughter, she would not compromise her loathing.  We're clearly led to believe
that, had she lied and professed her love of god, a god she hated and loathed,
she would have been allowed to enter heaven.

The movie faded out with Mimi Rogers standing in front of the gates looking in
to where she was not permitted to go.

What the director/writer are really telling us is that organized religion has
set up a model of heaven and hell that will accept people with little or no
integrity, but will deny entrance to those of high integrity.  Moreover, it
positions god as an entity possessed of an enormous ego.  An entity that seeks
to associate only with syncophants and, in Orwell's terms, "flappers".

Cheers,


/mtp
52.966COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Jun 29 1995 00:3414
>What the director/writer are really telling us is that organized religion has
>set up a model of heaven and hell that will accept people with little or no
>integrity, but will deny entrance to those of high integrity.  Moreover, it
>positions god as an entity possessed of an enormous ego.

Well, the director/writer has left out one very important attribute of God:

     You can't lie to God.  God knows the Truth.  God _is_ the Truth.

At least that's what "organized religion" teaches about God, so the
director/writer must not be writing about the model set up by organized
religion.

/john
52.967DEVLPR::DKILLORANM1A - The choice of champions !Thu Jun 29 1995 12:166
    re: 52.965
    
    Oh boy, the thumper index is gonna go up on this one !
    
    :-)
    Dan
52.968check that pulseHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jun 29 1995 13:497
>I know this movie came out a long time ago, but I had occasion to watch it for
>the first time a couple of nites ago.  I found the movie to be generally
>unimpressive until the last few minutes.  But, then, *wow*, what a message.

Mimi Rogers in the all together? Unimpressive?

TTom
52.969EST::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQThu Jun 29 1995 15:535
"Legends of the Fall"... saw it on tape last night.
One of the most depressing movies I've ever seen. Don't rent it if you
want to have a good time.

Still a pretty good flick, though.
52.970DECWET::MPETERSONMax OverheadThu Jun 29 1995 16:3212
> You can't lie to God.  God knows the Truth.  God _is_ the Truth.

That's exactly correct, John.  And that's exactly the point that the
writer/director was making.  God knew the sheriff was lying and let him
in.  God knew the mother was truthful and refused her entrance.  In the
movie's opinion (if you believe my interpretation, that is), god chooses to
populate heaven with angels of low-degree.

Cheers,

/mtp
52.972but god created MimiHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jun 29 1995 18:060
52.973BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Jun 29 1995 18:546
| <<< Note 52.971 by CNTROL::JENNISON "Revive us, Oh Lord" >>>


| It's obvious God didn't write the screenplay.

	or the Bible...
52.974SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebwas have foot-in-mouth disease!Thu Jun 29 1995 18:566
    
    
    
    Well... we know <---------  ain't one of those "thinkers" alluded to
    this morning with stuff like that...
    
52.976DEVLPR::DKILLORANM1A - The choice of champions !Thu Jun 29 1995 20:3210
    >          <<< Note 52.972 by HBAHBA::HAAS "improbable cause" >>>
    >                        -< but god created Mimi >-
    
    And MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY, ......
    God created the .......
    
    'BOX BABES ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
    
    :-)
    DAN
52.977MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryThu Jun 29 1995 20:335
    RE: .976
    
    Oh, like, are your knees getting dirty?

    -b
52.978POWDML::LAUERLittle Chamber of PasshionThu Jun 29 1995 21:174
    
    Brian, shhhhh.
    
    Go on, Dan 8^).
52.979DEVLPR::DKILLORANM1A - The choice of champions !Thu Jun 29 1995 21:424
    Brian is just jealous a 'cus he didn't think fast enough!
    
    :-)
    Dan
52.980Priscella, Queen of the DesertTROOA::TRP109::Chrisdedicated sybariteFri Jun 30 1995 16:4812
Rented a great Aussie flick a few nights ago... 
" The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert" Story
involves 3 gay guys who decide to take their cabaret
style show to the outback where they soon find out that
what is accepted in the big city (Sydney) isn't necessarily
accepted in the small town (Alice Springs). Priscella is
the name they christened their bus. The costumes are
fantastic and the acting and script are both very good.
You will never be able to watch Terrance Stamp in another
movie without remembering his performance here. Caught
myself laughing out loud more than once. (And girls...
Guy Pearce is real nice lookin too!)
52.981POLAR::RICHARDSONWhirly Twirly NapsFri Jun 30 1995 16:541
    What about Glen?
52.982SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotFri Jun 30 1995 17:267
    .980
    
    I guess you missed an important part of the plot of Priscilla.  They
    were not three gay guys, the were two gay guys and one FORMER guy. 
    Terence Stamp's character was a transsexual.
    
    I hope you stayed for the closing credits, they were a hoot!
52.983TROOA::TRP109::Chrisdedicated sybariteFri Jun 30 1995 20:4410
<------  I DIDN'T miss that part.... was just trying to leave 
it for others to discover.  I do believe that he was gay
too. I don't know, what do you call a transexual that used
to be a man who is now a woman but still has sex with men? 
Darn..... I only watched the credits until the music was
shown.  "Abba" does seem to be making a comeback in the
Aussie soundtracks (they were used extensively in "Murial's
Wedding" too).  Was there something after those credits?
Never mind - this is a movie that I'll probably be
renting again
52.984OUTSRC::HEISERNational Atheists Day - April 1Sat Jul 01 1995 00:005
>it for others to discover.  I do believe that he was gay
>too. I don't know, what do you call a transexual that used
>to be a man who is now a woman but still has sex with men? 
    
    CONFUSED!
52.985PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 05 1995 13:228
	saw "Interview with the Vampire".  almost as boring as the book.
	what's the big deal about Brad Pitt anyways?  he's nothing to look
	at and about as intriguing as lime jello, imo.

	then watched a _real_ movie - Altman's "Vincent & Theo" with Tim
	Roth and Paul Rhys.  ahhhhh.
  
52.986CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanWed Jul 05 1995 13:3319


 Saw Apollo 13.  Great movie.  It was good to see a movie where the heroes
 weren't shooting everybody in sight or blowing up this or that.  Technically
 it seemed to be done well. 


 Spoiler



 Jim Lovell has a cameo as the crew arrives on the aircraft carrier.  You have
 to look quickly as it is very brief.




 Jim
52.987TROOA::COLLINSMy hovercraft is full of eels.Wed Jul 05 1995 13:376
    
    Agreed.  A well-crafted movie.  Although, I felt that the Command 
    Module looked more spacious than I would have expected.
    
    The launch was breathtaking, and not an inch of NASA footage.
    
52.988CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanWed Jul 05 1995 13:434


 I thought that too about the command module..
52.989SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotWed Jul 05 1995 14:3022
    .983
    
    > trying to leave
    > it for others to discover
    
    Sorry, it was made plain in all the promotional literature I read, and
    also in an interview Terence Stamp gave before the film came out.
    
    > what do you call a transexual
    
    I call a transsexual a transsexual.  Transsexuals themselves, and a
    remarkably high number of psychologists, consider them people who are
    mentally and emotionally one gender but born into a body of the other
    gender.  Sex-change surgery corrects the error of nature, at least to
    the degree that the person's gross physical characteristics are enough
    like those of the proper gender that he or she can function well in
    society.
    
    > Was there something after those credits?
    
    No.  It was the credits themselves.  Rent the film and read the credits
    CAREFULLY.  ALL of them.  :-)
52.990PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 05 1995 14:448
>>I don't know, what do you call a transexual that used
>>to be a man who is now a woman but still has sex with men? 

	Some transexuals who become women naturally have sex
	with men.  If they're now women and having sex with men,
	then you wouldn't classify them as "gay", would you?


52.991Shawshank/Transexual StuffLUDWIG::BARBIERIThu Jul 06 1995 16:3815
      I saw Shawshank Redemption again.  Liked it a lot.  I heard
      Stephen King wrote it.  That surprised me, although I guess
      it shouldn't have too much as it took place in Maine.
    
      This transexual stuff strikes me as really bizarre, but I
      would find it yet more bizarre if a guy who thought he was a 
      woman had a sex change and then preferred sex with women!
                                                        
      Can someone explain why it would be considered more surprising
      for a guy who has a sex change to desire sex with men???
    
      I mean...if a guy thinks he's a woman, wouldn't desiring guys
      sexually be part of the package???  What am I missing here?
    
    						Tony
52.992GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed LadyThu Jul 06 1995 16:557
    
    
    boy...i saw the movie and must have TOTALLY missed the transexual
    stuff...
    
    
    
52.993CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanThu Jul 06 1995 17:205


 
Kiss of the Spider Shawshank?
52.994SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotThu Jul 06 1995 17:253
    There are two instances of the letter S in the word "transsexual." 
    From the Latin, TRANS- (across) and SEXVS (no explanation necessary).
                        ^               ^
52.995PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Jul 06 1995 17:332
   .994  oh, what a frothingly, bubblingly helpful explanation.  we might
	 never have guessed the etymology otherwise. ;>
52.996NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Jul 06 1995 17:331
Exually, the word is transexual.  It means "beyond real" or "far out, man."
52.997POLAR::RICHARDSONWhirly Twirly NapsThu Jul 06 1995 17:353
    Not only that, we never would have guessed its origin either.
    
    
52.998SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotThu Jul 06 1995 17:383
    .995
    
    You can be replaced.
52.999TROOA::COLLINSGone ballistic. Back in 5 minutes.Thu Jul 06 1995 17:397
    
    .998:
    
    A program that moves or deletes notes at random should do the trick.
    
    ;^)
    
52.1000MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryThu Jul 06 1995 17:395
    > You can be replaced.
    
    I very much doubt that...
    
    -b
52.1002PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Jul 06 1995 17:395
    
>>    You can be replaced.

	oh, don't i know it.  arbitrarily even.

52.1003enough snarfs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HANNAH::MODICAJourneyman NoterThu Jul 06 1995 17:403
    
    I saw that Leech! Perhaps now you'll give up this strange
    compulsion you have.
52.1004CSOA1::LEECHThu Jul 06 1995 17:533
    Saw what?  I didn't see anything.  Nope.  Wasn't even in this conferece
    at the time, so I couldn't have seen it.  That is, assuming that there
    was something to see. 
52.1005but then again, i could be mistaken as usualPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Jul 06 1995 17:553
   i believe it was mr. collins.

52.1006TROOA::COLLINSGone ballistic. Back in 5 minutes.Thu Jul 06 1995 17:583
    
    Zounds!   Did I leave my terminal unattended again?
    
52.1007WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jul 10 1995 15:521
    saw Dumb & Dumber this weekend... dumbest!
52.1008MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon Jul 10 1995 16:0011
    I saw "Species" last night... chuckle...

    Standard sci-fi thriller. Not bad, but not oscar material either.
    Decent cast, including Ben Kingsley and Forrest Whittaker.

    Like most films in the genre, the climax is filmed with little
    light, so you can't see the strings and wires on the monster.
    Ben Kingsley clearly was opting out of the inevitable sequels...

    -b
52.1009USCTR1::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketMon Jul 10 1995 17:2114
    .983>> Was there something after those credits?
    
    .989> No.  It was the credits themselves.  Rent the film and read the 
          credits CAREFULLY.  ALL of them.  :-)
    
    And then see what happens AFTER the credits.  There IS a brief,
    hilarious scene, which some moviehouses did not show (either because
    the projectionist didn't know about it, they had a tight schedule,
    or...?).  The Westboro Ruth Gordon Flicks 1 & 2 didn't show it; Clark
    University's Cinema (mumblenumber) did show it, as did Arlington's
    Capitol Theater.
    
    Leslie
    
52.1010CBHVAX::CBHLager LoutMon Jul 10 1995 17:275
Does anyone know why that neanderthal Sylvester Stallone got the lead
role in the Judge Dredd film?  Eastwood would have done a *much* better
job.  (Plus, Joe Dredd is supposed to be pretty old)

Chris.
52.1011WAHOO::LEVESQUEthe countdown is onMon Jul 10 1995 17:338
    >    Like most films in the genre, the climax is filmed with little
    >    light, so you can't see the strings and wires on the monster.
    
     The "monster" was computer generated (probably on an SGI box.) They
    made a mock-up of it, and put lots of sensors on it. Then they had 3
    guys move this thing around, and the sensors were relayed to the
    computer, which used the input to mimic the motions in animation.
    Really cool stuff.
52.1012MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryTue Jul 11 1995 18:0317
    Saw Diehard n -- where n is a large number -- last night.
    Not a bad little thriller. Not bad at all.

    Now, if you saw the movie, no fair answering this question.
    I got it right _before_ they gave the answer in the movie;
    you'll just have to take my word for it. Here's the problem:

    You have two jugs (well, some of you do, but I'm talking
    about the plastic water-holding kind... oh, no, not the
    silicone ones, no I mean... oh nevermind) Anyway, one jug
    holds exactly three gallons of water. The other holds
    exactly five gallons of water. You need to fill one of
    the jugs with exactly four gallons of water. How do you
    do it?

    -b
52.1013MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalTue Jul 11 1995 18:0911
    You fill the five gallon jug and then fill the three gallon from the
    five gallon...leaving two gallons in the five gallon jug.  Pour those
    two gallons into another container.  Empty the three gallon onto the
    ground.
    
    Repeat the process and add the two gallons to the previous two gallons,
    then take those four gallons and put them into the five gallon jug.
    
    See...I'm alot smarter than you saps!
    
    -Jack
52.1014MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryTue Jul 11 1995 18:094
    
    Er, wrong. You don't have a third container. Try again.
    
    -b
52.1015gallonz 'n' gallonzSPSEG::COVINGTONTue Jul 11 1995 18:157
    Pour the five gallon into the three gallon, leaving two gallons in the
    five gallon. (Confused yet?) Drink, or otherwise dispose of, the three
    gallons. Pour the two gallons in the three gallon, leaving (you guessed
    it) two gallons in the three gallon. Fill the five gallon. Pour one
    gallon (all that will fit) from the five gallon into the three gallon.
    
    Can you do this with beer?
52.1016USCTR1::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketTue Jul 11 1995 18:1612
    Fill the 5 gal, pour into the 3 gal to the top.  You have 2 gallons
    remaining in the large container.
    
    Empty the small container.  Pour the 2 gallons from the large into the
    small container.
    
    Fill the large container.  Pour into the small container (which still
    contains 2 gallons) up to the rim; you now have 4 gallons in the large 
    container.
    
    NNTTM,
    Leslie
52.1017and gallons...SPSEG::COVINGTONTue Jul 11 1995 18:166
    Ever noticed how sometimes when you stare at an everyday word it
    suddenly looks weird?
    
    gallon.
    
    hmmmm.....
52.1018NETCAD::WOODFORDSoManyDipsticks,SoLittleOil.Tue Jul 11 1995 18:1712
    
    
    I saw Apollo 13 this past weekend.  I loved it!  There were parts of
    the movie that had me sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to see
    what was going to happen next, even though I already knew what had
    happened in reality.
    
    Great movie!  The hubby thought so too.
    
    
    Terrie
    
52.1019Another methodSPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideTue Jul 11 1995 18:179
        Fill the 5 gallon  jug  - pour out 3 gallons into 3 gallon
        jug - leaves  2 gallons in five gallon jug.  Mark water level
        in 5 gallon jug  -  empty  3  gallon  jug - pour 2 gallons in 5
        gallon jug into 3 gallon jug.
        
        Fill 5 gallon jug to mark, add 2 gallons from 3 gallon jug.
        
        &y
        
52.1020GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberTue Jul 11 1995 18:1913
    
    
    
    You fill the five gallon container and then pour the water into the 3
    gallon container, hence two gallons left.  Dump out the 3 gallon
    container and pour the 5 gallon container into the three gallon
    container (you have 2 gallons in the 3 gallon container).  Fill up the
    5 gallon container again and then pour all that will fit into the 3
    gallon container from the 5 gallon container (which will be 1 gallon). 
    You wind up with 4 gallons in the 5 gallon container.  
    
    Mike (who hasn't seen the movie or heard of this problem before)
    
52.1021MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryTue Jul 11 1995 18:195
    Congratulations .1015 and .1016; you win absolutely nothing, but
    you do get to feel smart for a brief instance of time...

    -b
52.1022GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberTue Jul 11 1995 18:213
    
    
    hey, what about me??????
52.1023NETCAD::WOODFORDSoManyDipsticks,SoLittleOil.Tue Jul 11 1995 18:229
    
    
    I wanna know who Smart is first.......
    
    
    
    Terrie
    :*)
    
52.1024MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryTue Jul 11 1995 18:236
    
    Ok, you too. And &y as well, although his method requires
    something other than the givens (an object to mark the
    container with), so he only gets 98% of the group hug... :-)
    
    -b
52.1025MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryTue Jul 11 1995 18:255
    > I wanna know who Smart is first.......
    
    Giggle! :-)
    
    -b
52.1026GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberTue Jul 11 1995 18:268
    
    
    Reminds me of the comedian who does the bit about men and why they
    don't dance together.
    
    
    "Yeah, wrap those big old hairy meathooks around me and let's dance"
    
52.1027CSOA1::LEECHdia dhuitTue Jul 11 1995 18:343
    re: .1012
    
    I had the answer before that scene was over in the theater.  
52.1028TINCUP::AGUEDTN-592-4939, 719-598-3498(SSL)Tue Jul 11 1995 22:2210
    Instead of filling the 5 gal first, as in .1015 and .1016, how about:
    
    Fill 3 gal, pour it all into the 5 gal,
    Fill 3 gal again, pour all you can into 5 gal, leaving just one gal in
    the 3 gal,
    Empty the 5 gal.
    Pour the one gal that's in the 3 gal into the 5 gal,
    Fill the three gal and add it to the 1 gal in the 5 gal, making 4 gals.
    
    -- Jim
52.1029PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 12 1995 12:543
   .1028  that's nice, but it's not as efficient.  .1015 involves
	  2 fills, 3 pours, and 1 empty.  yours involves 3 fills,
	  4 pours, and 1 empty.
52.1030TINCUP::AGUEDTN-592-4939, 719-598-3498(SSL)Wed Jul 12 1995 13:596
    Where was efficiency stated as a goal?  Maybe the goal is to get a
    workout?  There's wastes 6 gallons of water (1 empty plus f3 left in 
    the 3 gal container at end.)  Mine wastes 5.  Maybe convservation is a
    plus.
    
    -- Jim
52.1031PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 12 1995 14:018
>>    Where was efficiency stated as a goal? 

	nowhere.  where was it stated that inefficiencies in the solution
	couldn't be pointed out?



52.1032TINCUP::AGUEDTN-592-4939, 719-598-3498(SSL)Wed Jul 12 1995 14:037
    >>	nowhere.  where was it stated that inefficiencies in the solution
    >>	couldn't be pointed out?

    Nowhere.   Where was it stated that pickiness in the evaluations of the
    solutions couldn't be pointed out?   %^)
    
    -- Jim
52.1033PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 12 1995 14:087
	;> foof. 

	some people like elegant solutions, you know?  that's
	the problem.  all that extra filling and pouring isn't
	elegant.  although the water conservation thing is a
	good point, i must admit. ;>
52.1034Must have been in Marilyn the Savant's columnDECWIN::RALTOI hate summerWed Jul 12 1995 14:267
    This math/logic problem must be making the rounds; about six months ago
    one of my kids in elementary school brought it home as an extra-credit
    homework problem, but it was "cups" instead of "gallons".
    
    Not quite as controversial as the "Monty Hall" problem, thankfully...
    
    Chris
52.1035SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotWed Jul 12 1995 15:163
    I first saw this problem perhaps 30 years ago.  I'd suggest that it may
    be as old as H. E. Dudeny's puzzle books, but I think it's probably too
    simple for old Henry.  I'll have a check tonight, if I remember.
52.1036SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebwas have foot-in-mouth disease!Tue Jul 18 1995 16:025
    
    Watched "The Gallant Hours" with James Cagney last night...
    
    Thoroughly enjoyed it (again)...
    
52.1037PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jul 18 1995 16:074
	watched "un coeur en hiver".  an odd, depressing, and interesting
	character study.

52.1038DEVLPR::DKILLORANLove In An ElevatorTue Jul 18 1995 16:2510
    
    Saw "Judge Dredd" over the weekend....  Great fun!  Not, shall we say,
    an interesting intellectual exercise, but just good ol' fun.

    It seems that there are somethings in the future to look forward to
    
    Like the co-ed locker rooms :-)

    Dan

52.1039does Packwood know?SMURF::WALTERSTue Jul 18 1995 16:282
    
    Judd Gregg was in a co-ed locker room??
52.1040LEADIN::REITHTue Jul 18 1995 16:295
    
    "Judge Dredd" did have a good comic book type feel to it.
    I think "Tank Girl" did a better comic book feel though.
    
    	Skip
52.1041CSC32::J_OPPELTWanna see my scar?Tue Jul 18 1995 16:392
    	Is Judge Dredd a movie that is acceptable fare for a 10-year-old?
    	Is it any more violent than a common superhero comic book?
52.1042CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue Jul 18 1995 16:4211



 From what I've seen in the trailers, I wouldn't take my 12 year old to see it.
 But, his mother likely would.




 Jim
52.1043This + Mir mission = Great NASA publicity this yearDECWIN::RALTOI still hate summerTue Jul 18 1995 16:4322
    I finally got around to seeing "Apollo 13" last night.
    
    It was very well done, apparently a labor of love (who else would
    care about accuracy to a level of detail that 99% of the audience
    wouldn't be aware of?).  As far as I could tell, there were only
    a few dramatic liberties taken here and there, as well as some
    slight modification of events to make for a tighter story (they
    only had a couple of hours, after all).
    
    While I eventually got used to Hanks in the Lovell role, and he
    was competent in it (though he delivered his lines in a more
    "excitable" manner than most astros do; perhaps he should've
    played Pete Conrad :-)), I still would've preferred someone else
    in the role, given my druthers.
    
    Given my nit-pickers eye for chronological accuracy in period-piece
    Hollywood endeavors, I noticed only one very minor anachronism, and
    I'm not at all sure about that one.  Fine work, there.
    
    Definitely a good movie, worth seeing, even if you know the ending. :-)
    
    Chris
52.1044DECLNE::REESEToreDown,I'mAlmostLevelW/theGroundTue Jul 18 1995 16:554
    Hmmmm, I'm not a Stallone fan, but Armand Assante might make it
    worthwhile to see the Judge :-)
    
    
52.1045CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue Jul 18 1995 16:5610


 I watched Nova's program about Apollo 13 last night.  Quite interesting to
 see, having seen the movie.   The only thing the TV program didn't delve into
 which the movie did, was the time Mattingly spent in the simulator.



 Jim
52.1047TROOA::COLLINSGone ballistic. Back in 5 minutes.Tue Jul 18 1995 17:055
    
    I saw A&E's `The 20th Century', recounting "...the REAL story of
    Apollo 13".  Guess what?  It was the exact same story as in the 
    movie, except not even anywhere NEAR as detailed.
    
52.1048PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jul 18 1995 17:214
	.1046  didn't realize they were married.  interesting.  there
	       was a great deal of chemistry between them. 
	       she's so beautiful, it's almost unreal.
52.1050NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jul 18 1995 17:261
Doesn't sound right.  Shouldn't that be Geritol?
52.1052NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jul 18 1995 17:301
.zapoT_rM ,era uoy thgiR.
52.1053SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebwas have foot-in-mouth disease!Tue Jul 18 1995 17:309
    
    
    Nope
    
    .drawkcab delleps serutaN is Natures spelled backward.
    
    
    HTH
    
52.1054CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue Jul 18 1995 17:306
       
>       She eats right, she exercises, and she uses Ivory soap.


 ...and she drinks Ensure!
52.1079MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalTue Jul 18 1995 18:1226
    Watched the Batman Movie with my kids last Sunday.  The one with Adam
    West and Burt Ward against the Riddler, Joker, Penguin, and Cat Woman
    (The lovely Ms. Kitka).
    
    The UN Council had been completely dehydrated and their bodies was a
    small pile of dust.  At the end, Batman used his Bat computer and a few
    other things in his Bat Cave in the interest of saving the world.
    
    He puts the small piles of sand on a round table at the UN, starts the
    process of rehydration, and they all miraculously come back to their
    original state.
    
    Now to the point of this.  Upon their reappearance, Commissioner Gordon
    is on a direct line with the President yelling, "Success Success...it
    worked...it worked!!!!!"  The President then speaks in another phone
    saying, "Success Success...we did it we did it!!!".  The news then
    flows through the proper channels throughout the world.  
    
    You never see the president because he is on a swivel chair and it's
    back is to us.  There is no mistake however that the President is John
    F. Kennedy...the one who said, "We Did It...We Did It!!!"
    
    Moral:  You can always count on a democrat to take credit for other
    peoples work!!
    
    -Jack
52.1080MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalTue Jul 18 1995 18:133
 ZZZ    had been completely dehydrated and their bodies was a
    
    Were you idiot!
52.1081POLAR::RICHARDSONYurple Takes The Lead!Tue Jul 18 1995 18:141
    Republican propaganda.
52.1083MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalTue Jul 18 1995 18:151
    Hey....we're desparate!
52.1084MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalTue Jul 18 1995 18:151
    DespErate you idiot!
52.1085TROOA::COLLINSGone ballistic. Back in 5 minutes.Tue Jul 18 1995 18:163
    
    Jack's blown a gasket!
    
52.1086SPSEG::COVINGTONTue Jul 18 1995 19:527
    re: .1043
    
    No one else asked???
    
    So, what was the anachonism?
    
    -signed a nittier pickier annoying person to go to the movies with
52.1087Just a little thing, maybe not even an anachronismDECWIN::RALTOI still hate summerTue Jul 18 1995 20:0721
    >> So, what was the anachonism?
    
    Possible spoiler warning :-)
    
    
    
    During one scene, Marilyn Lovell is talking on the phone (nice, er,
    actress, btw), and there's a close-up in which she's holding the
    receiver at such an angle where you can see the coiled cord entering
    the receiver... using one of the new modular mini-plugs, whatever
    they're called.
    
    I may be wrong (that's why I'd said I wasn't at all sure about it),
    but I didn't think those came along until the late 1970's, if not
    even a little later.  I didn't think they were around in 1970, but
    they might have been available for new-at-the-time telephones (?).
    
    Can anyone else confirm this?  I wasn't actually looking for this,
    it just kind of jumped out of the screen at me... :-)
    
    Chris
52.1088TROOA::COLLINSGone ballistic. Back in 5 minutes.Tue Jul 18 1995 20:097
    
    Chris,
    
    I thought I noticed that, too.  I remember *definitely* noticing it
    in another period-piece movie (Five Corners), and it just *ruined*
    it for me.   :^)
    
52.1089SPSEG::COVINGTONTue Jul 18 1995 20:108
    Remind me never to go to a movie with you.
    
    We'd get kicked out in three minutes.
    
    "HEY! The phone was in her LEFT hand three scenes ago. How'd she pick
    up the car keys?" etc, etc.
    
    I don't look for that stuff either, but it does tend to leap out at ya.
52.1090"Stage one" nits :-)DECWIN::RALTOI still hate summerTue Jul 18 1995 20:194
    Well, in that case, I won't even talk about the logo used on
    the "USA" lettering on their faux-Saturn-V.  :-)
    
    Chris
52.1091SPSEG::COVINGTONTue Jul 18 1995 20:282
    Oh, please do.
    
52.1092Lots of little techie nits, but nothing consequentialDECWIN::RALTOI still hate summerTue Jul 18 1995 20:3814
    Okay, the logo was wrong.  :-)
                                             U
    Well, to be more specific, the vertical  S  emblem at the bottom of
                                             A
    
    the Saturn V first stage had the wrong logo/typeface.  I wasn't
    looking for that one, either, but I sure noticed it.  The rest
    of the Saturn V was pretty much on the money.  I wonder how they
    got that wrong, oh well.
    
    But that's a "detail nit" rather than an "anachronism nit".  I'll
    forgive the former, but I get cranky over the latter.  :-)
    
    Chris
52.1093SPSEG::COVINGTONWed Jul 19 1995 13:375
    I missed that one.
    
    Of course, I was just a wee lad during the beginnning of the apollo
    program. You'd think I'd seen enough of the apollo launches during the
    early days of MTV.
52.1094TROOA::TRP109::Chrisdedicated sybariteWed Jul 19 1995 15:347
Hopefully I can save a few people some $$$ by letting
you know about the awful movies I rented last night.

Now, "IQ" with Meg Ryan and Tim Robbins was bad...

but "Bad Company" with Ellen Barkin and Laurence
Fishburne was really really bad!
52.1095CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenWed Jul 19 1995 16:283
    Rented Disclosure last night.  Disappointed after having read the book. 
    Demi Moore and Mike Douglas were both uninspired.  The HR or laywer
    dude was a diappointment as well.  Book was much much better.
52.1096PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 19 1995 16:324
	>>Book was much much better.

	movie must really bite then.

52.1097I've been through this enough times; besides, let him RIPDECWIN::RALTOI still hate summerWed Jul 19 1995 16:5911
    When I saw "Apollo 13" the other night, amongst the coming
    attractions was one for "Nixon".  Gaaah!
    
    The only time we got to see the Nixon character was an ultra
    close-up of "Nixon"'s beady eye.  I guess they figured we wouldn't
    buy the actor (Anthony Hopkins, I believe) if they showed him
    full-face.
    
    But the real question is:  Do we really need a movie about Nixon?
    
    Chris
52.1098SMURF::MSCANLONalliaskofmyselfisthatiholdtogetherWed Jul 19 1995 17:013
    re: .1097
    
    Nostalgia sells.
52.1099Beneath the Valley of the Ultra-NixonsTROOA::COLLINSLife is a great big hang up...Wed Jul 19 1995 17:011
    
52.1100CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanWed Jul 19 1995 17:054


 The Big Screen Snarf!
52.1101NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jul 19 1995 17:293
>                  -< Beneath the Valley of the Ultra-Nixons >-

Will this Nixon movie be soft-core?  Has Phil Gramm invested in it?
52.1102Another Stone flickTLE::PERAROWed Jul 19 1995 17:319
    
    The movie Nixon, another film by Oliver Stone.  Probably full of
    conspiracy theories.  
    
    Apollo 13 was an exceptional movie!! I sat on the edge of my seat the
    whole time!
    
    Mary
    
52.1103Oooo, Sean ConneryTLE::PERAROWed Jul 19 1995 17:325
    
    Anyone see First Night yet??
    
    Mary
    
52.1104SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotWed Jul 19 1995 17:447
    .1103
    
    > Anyone see First Night yet??
    
    Every December 31, in many New England cities and towns.
    
    Oh.  You probably meant First Knight.  Never mind.
52.1105Don't let your fingers do the walkingTLE::PERAROWed Jul 19 1995 17:473
     Ooops, typo, fingers have a mind of their own today.  :>)
    
     Yes, I meant First Knight.  
52.1106SMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotWed Jul 19 1995 17:501
    Nope, ain't seen it.
52.1107SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebwas have foot-in-mouth disease!Wed Jul 19 1995 17:537
    
    
     I understand they're gonna do a remake of "The Drowning Pool"
    
    
    starring Ted Kennedy...
    
52.1108He greyish and clamy lookingTLE::PERAROWed Jul 19 1995 17:575
    
    I thought he was going to be the star of the remake "Mobey Dick"
    appearing as the white whale.
    
    
52.1109Vintage jokes No 1375SMURF::WALTERSWed Jul 19 1995 17:5919
    
    My grandad actually caught Moby Dick.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Of course, they have a cure for it now.
52.1110Trivial interjectionSMURF::BINDERFather, Son, and Holy SpigotWed Jul 19 1995 18:063
    There really was a "Moby-Dick."  It was a real white sperm whale called
    "Mocha-Dick," and it apparently really was a noted mankiller.  1830s, I
    think.
52.1111Served only in elegant cupsDECWIN::RALTOI still hate summerWed Jul 19 1995 18:185
>>    "Mocha-Dick,"
    
    I thought that was one of those General Foods International Coffees...
    
    Chris
52.1112they had notes in 1830s?HBAHBA::HAAStime compressedWed Jul 19 1995 18:580
52.1113NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jul 19 1995 20:001
If it was a noted mankiller, it musta been in =wn=.
52.1114I'll take a miss on Turkey, thanksMOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Jul 25 1995 02:5417
I woke up early this morning. Real early - like 4. I came downstairs,
turned on the tube and surfed for a minute or two. Landed on Flix.
They were playing something called "Midnight Express", circa 1978,
screenplay by Oliver Stone. I only caught the last ten minutes
or so, but it was somewhat, er, riveting, so I rented it this evening.

Story has to do with an American (punk) who gets collared for trying to
smuggle 2 Kilos of hashish out of Istanbul in 1970, and what the next
5+ years of his life in a Turkish prison were like.

I now know what Peter Graves was talking about when he had the kid in
the cockpit in "Airplane".

I also need to have a serious conversation with Suz.

They call that a civilized country?

52.1115Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?MKOTS3::CASHMONa kind of human gom jabbarTue Jul 25 1995 09:325
    
    "Billy, did you ever spend any time in a Turkish prison?"
    
    "Billy, do you ever watch gladiator movies?"
    
52.1116WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jul 25 1995 10:194
    watched True Romance last weekend with Christian Slater, Arquette,
    Dennis Hopper, Christopher Walken, and Gary Oldman... 
    
    just a good, violent, action, love story
52.1117GAVEL::JANDROWFriendsRtheFamilyUChooseForYourselfTue Jul 25 1995 12:195
    
    
    tell suz i said 'hi', jaq...
    
    
52.1118AlcatrazSMURF::WALTERSTue Jul 25 1995 13:041
    Murder in the First.  Slater, Oldman, Bacon.  Bloody good flick.
52.1119where's Billy Hays today?WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Tue Jul 25 1995 13:3411
    .1114
    
    Midnight Express, with Brad Davis (now deceased), John Hurt and Randy
    Quaid contains one of the all-time great movie lines, a line which
    would work well in Soapbox, if'n it didn't contain an r.o.
    
    "that's where you're wrong,  <blank>-<blank>!"
    
    
    
    
52.1120PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jul 25 1995 13:396
>>    Murder in the First.  Slater, Oldman, Bacon.  Bloody good flick.

	Slater ruined it for me.  The courtroom scenes seemed really
	contrived.

52.1121DEVLPR::DKILLORANThe Lecher... ;-&gt; Tue Jul 25 1995 14:388
    
    Saw the new Batman flick last night.  Pretty good, but I wish I hadn't
    seen all the previews, kinda killed it.  
    I wasn't surprised by anything :-(

    Oh well, that's what ya get for "reading ahead".

    Dan
52.1122TROOA::TRP109::Chrisdedicated sybariteTue Jul 25 1995 15:435
Brad Davis (Midnight Express) died from AIDS a few years ago
(drug related I think).  And in case you didn't know, the
movie is based on a true story - the book is a good read if
you ever get the chance.  Makes me wonder how people can be
so STOOOOPID!
52.1123POLAR::RICHARDSONPainful But YummyTue Jul 25 1995 15:542
    I thought it was rather miraculous he he got out of that prison. It was
    like God let him out.
52.1124WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jul 25 1995 16:001
    i believe that was largely based on a true story...
52.1125MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryTue Jul 25 1995 16:016
    > I thought it was rather miraculous he he got out of that prison. It was
    > like God let him out.
    
    i wonder how this effects the "thumper index" :-)
    
    -b
52.1126SHRCTR::YOUNGTue Jul 25 1995 16:337
    RE: Midnight Express
    
    a friend of mine's brother knew the actual individual whom the film was
    based on ...... he, in fact, purchased some of his goods on previous
    trips ...... while the movie made it look like a "one time affair",
    apparently he had made several successful trips earlier.
    
52.1127PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Jul 27 1995 14:384
	saw "priscilla, queen of the desert".  liked it a lot.  captivating
	premise and some excellent acting.

52.1128BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Jul 27 1995 19:494

	I saw that too! Great flick! I couldn't tell they were acting
though.... they seemed so real! :-)
52.1129**KA-BOOM**VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyThu Jul 27 1995 21:102
    I saw "Blown Away".  I was in the "new arrivals" section so it must
    have been recent.  I liked it.
52.1130PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Jul 28 1995 14:005
	"la reine margot", with isabelle adjani, daniel auteuil, and
	jean-hugues anglade.  intense, well-acted, lots of treachery,
	angst, slaughtering of protestants, the usual. ;>

52.1131POLAR::RICHARDSONPrepositional MasochistFri Jul 28 1995 14:441
Saw "Nel" last night. Good movie chickopee.
52.1132DEVLPR::DKILLORANIt ain't easy, bein' sleezy!Fri Jul 28 1995 15:124
    
    "Nel" - Never heard of it.  Anything interesting?
    
    Dan
52.1133PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Jul 28 1995 15:167
    
>>    "Nel" - Never heard of it.  Anything interesting?

	it must be the shortened version of "Nell", which was a pretty
	good movie.

52.1134POLAR::RICHARDSONPrepositional MasochistFri Jul 28 1995 15:173
    Story about a girl who is found in the Blue Ridge mountains who has
    never had contact with the outside world. She appears to be wild and
    speaks a strange language.
52.1135TROOA::COLLINSCareful! That sponge has corners!Fri Jul 28 1995 15:235
    
    >She appears to be wild and speaks a strange language.
    
    ...and she then goes on to become a spokesperson for Family Values.
    
52.1136POLAR::RICHARDSONPrepositional MasochistFri Jul 28 1995 15:243
    And then teaches everyone to spell her name properly.
    
    Glenn
52.1137TROOA::COLLINSCareful! That sponge has corners!Fri Jul 28 1995 15:253
    
    The End.
    
52.1138POLAR::RICHARDSONPrepositional MasochistFri Jul 28 1995 15:261
    <--- Hated that movie.
52.1139Other characters are "Pa", "Jay" and "May"....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftFri Jul 28 1995 15:2619
    
    "Apolo 1" was a pretty good movie too.
    
    "Nell," Jodie Foster in another bid for an Oscar.
    
    An old woman who lives in a decaying cabin in the woods far away
    from almost all human contact dies.  Soon enough, a doctor discovers
    that the dead woman wasn't alone, she raised a "wild child" (now
    thirty-something) and in a brief note, leaves the child to him.
    Nell (Jodie Foster) speaks a language that nobody can understand.
    
    
    Save for some completely over the top speechifying near the end, and
    many unneeded through Nell's eyes flash-backs that are really
    flash-forwards (can't leave anything implied afterall, must hit
    the audience upside the head with 2x4's to tell a story), not a
    bad movie at all.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1140DASHER::RALSTONcantwejustbenicetoeachother?:)Fri Jul 28 1995 16:125
    >"Apolo 1" was a pretty good movie too.
    
    "Apollo 13" was pretty good too.
    
    ...Tom 
52.1141TROOA::COLLINSCareful! That sponge has corners!Fri Jul 28 1995 16:145
    
    Air show!!
    
    ;^)
    
52.1142CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri Jul 28 1995 16:591
    Nel was Nell that was reformatted to fit your screen.  
52.1143Life is like a worn-out cliche.MKOTS3::CASHMONa kind of human gom jabbarSun Jul 30 1995 01:0212
    
    Finally saw "Forrest Gump."  Very well-made, even if their was no
    real meat to the story.  An appealing, tear-jerking dollop of eye
    candy.  Recommended.
    
    It really had nothing to do with the book by Winston Groom, though.
    
    
    
    
    Rob
    
52.1144LJSRV2::KALIKOWHi-ho! Yow! I'm surfing Arpanet!Sun Jul 30 1995 02:012
    Gawd I *hated* that moompitcha.  Mindless goop.
    
52.1145POLAR::RICHARDSONPrepositional MasochistSun Jul 30 1995 02:041
    <--- after 500.0 I'll take your opinion with a grain of salt.
52.1146LJSRV2::KALIKOWHi-ho! Yow! I'm surfing Arpanet!Sun Jul 30 1995 02:1717
    Ain't you the feller wif the multiple personalities?  If so, here's one
    grain per each:
    
    ........................................................................
    ........................................................................
    ........................................................................
    ........................................................................
    ........................................................................
    ........................................................................
    ........................................................................
    ........................................................................
    ........................................................................
    ........................................................................
    ........................................................................
    Oughta holdja.
    
    |-{:-)
52.1147POLAR::RICHARDSONPrepositional MasochistSun Jul 30 1995 02:251
    Sodium do this often?
52.1148Coupla goodiesTROOA::BUTKOVICHMon Jul 31 1995 03:4327
    Just finished watching two great movies.  The first should appeal
    to almost everyone, the second....well, if you can't handle violence
    and bad language I'd give it a pass. If however, you  can overlook
    those things and appreciate a very well crafted film, you might enjoy
    it.
    
    The first movie was "Hoop Dreams" - a documentary following two Chicago
    teens over 5 years (jr high and high school) as they pursue their dreams
    of making the NBA.  It was a big long (almost 3 hours) but managed to
    hold my interest. It's crazy how much importance the American school
    system puts on athletics (incoming!!) - these guys were being scouted
    and recruited before they got to high school! In fact, were given
    scholarships to attend a certain high school.  I thought it was kind of
    ironic how things turned out.
    
    The second movie was "Love and a .45" - very much in the Quintin
    Tarantino realm. It stars Gil Bellows (the young convict in "The
    Shawshank Redemption") and Rory Cochrane (the stoner dude from "Dazed
    and Confused") There was a cameo by Peter Fonda. It's a story of a
    smalltown hood that gets involved with a psycho partner.  The two 
    botch up a robbery and from there, the movie turns into an "on-the-lam" 
    road movie. The acting was great and the dialogue very well written. 
    In fact, I went back to check the credits to see if Quintin had 
    anything to do with it - couldn't find anything to indicate who had 
    written it. The soundtrack is also way cool - everything from the Meat 
    Puppets to Johnny Cash singing "Ring of Fire" during the closing credits.
    
52.1149POBOX::BATTISGR8D8B8Tue Aug 01 1995 13:365
    
    rented the Last Seduction this weekend with Linda Fiorintiono(sp)
    and Bill Pullman, was an excellent movie, surprise ending as well.
    
    Mark
52.1150We've got two problems hereDECWIN::RALTOStay in bed, float upstreamTue Aug 01 1995 21:0012
    Since I saw "Apollo 13" a couple of weeks ago:
    
    1.  The fan relay in my car fused shut and caused the battery
        to drain at such a high rate that it expanded and almost burst.
    
    2.  The thermostat on my clothes dryer broke, causing the heating
        element to overheat and short out, causing the thermal fuse
        to melt.
    
    Very funny, ha-ha, heh, okay, heh, you can stop now, heh.
    
    Chris
52.1151DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Aug 01 1995 21:404
> rented the Last Seduction this weekend with Linda Fiorintiono(sp)
> and Bill Pullman, was an excellent movie, surprise ending as well.

If you liked that, try "Romeo Is Bleeding". Quite a dose.
52.1152TROOA::COLLINSCareful! That sponge has corners!Wed Aug 02 1995 01:338
    
    One of the technical errors in `Apollo 13' (say technology buffs)
    occurs when...
    
    ...one engineer checks an astronaut's addition using a slide rule.
    
    Slide rules were not used for addition.
    
52.1153MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Aug 02 1995 01:385
Not so.

My K-E slipstick had a pair of linear scales which could be used for
addition.

52.1154TROOA::COLLINSCareful! That sponge has corners!Wed Aug 02 1995 01:418
    
    You mean they were wrong?   
    
    Ohhh, my faith in technology buffs is now shattered.
    
    (Somehow, when I transcribed it, I *knew* someone here would know
       different!   :^)
    
52.1155LJSRV2::KALIKOWHi-ho! Yow! I'm surfing Arpanet!Wed Aug 02 1995 01:474
    SillyBoy.  Them flyboiz wuz prolly just adding logarithms.
    
    /s/Dan_"He_of_the_Napier-Sharp_Wit"_|-{:-)
                           
52.1156Species -- Don't botherDOCTP::KELLERSpprt smlr gvt. http://www.lp.org/lp/lp.htmlWed Aug 02 1995 11:5311
Went to see "Species" over the weekend.  Supposedly the sexiest SciFi 
Thriller of the year.

It was definitely not worth $7/person.  Not much of a plot or story line.  
The special effects were boring, mostly shot in the dark and in dreams.  
Lots of gratuitious full frontal nudity.

Definitely one to miss altogether or at least wait until it hits the video 
stores.

--Geoff
52.1157RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed Aug 02 1995 13:4113
    Re .1156:
    
    > Lots of gratuitious full frontal nudity.
    
    There wasn't any full frontal nudity and only a few shots of partial
    frontal nudity.

    
    				-- edp
    
    
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To find PGP, read note 2688.4 in Humane::IBMPC_Shareware.
52.1158NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Aug 02 1995 13:541
Perhaps Eric saw the censored version.
52.1159WAHOO::LEVESQUEthe heat is onWed Aug 02 1995 14:063
    > Lots of gratuitious full frontal nudity.
    
     You're giving contradictory signals here... :-)
52.1160SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVETS Palo AltoWed Aug 02 1995 15:518
    I saw Apollo 13 and I remember the scene in question, but I don't
    remember that the operation was stated or even implied to be addition. 
    One of the astronauts had to do some calculations and read off several
    numbers, several of which were operands and one or two presumably the
    results, asking the controllers to 'check that' or 'back me up' or
    something.  I didn't think it was addition.
    
    DougO
52.1161CSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanFri Aug 04 1995 03:3116


 Saw Apollo 13 again tonight..my son Chris hadn't seen it yet, so he and
 I went to see it.  Enjoyed it as much as the first time.  One things bothers
 me though..in the scene where they're telling Lovell that Mattingly is off
 the trip, Tom Hanks is wearing one of those shirts with an aligator (Izod?)
 on it.  I didn't think those were around then.  Also, the priest who is
 with the family awaiting the splashdown is wearing a wedding ring (of 
 course perhaps he wasn't a catholic priest).


 I still found myself with a few tears in my eyes at the end.


 Jim
52.1162updateCSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanFri Aug 04 1995 12:159


 The priest was Episcopalian, according to the book on which the movie
 was based..



 Jim
52.1163CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri Aug 04 1995 12:543
    Izod shirts werer all the rage in that era with frat boyz and
    prepsters.  It was the Grosse Pointe look which included all sorts of
    co-mingled pastels on various garments worn at the same time.  
52.1164PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Aug 04 1995 14:2346
 Here's the whole list (don't think this is in here yet):


 Top Ten TECHNICAL ERRORS/ANACHRONISMS in the movie "Apollo 13"

  - compiled by a bunch of genuine NASA dweebs who actually noticed these
    things.

 =========================================================

 10. The NASA "worm" logo appears on a glass door.
     The logo was not developed until 1976.

 9. One engineer checks an astronaut's addition using a slide rule.
    Slide rules are not used for addition.

 8. Jim Lovell's license plate is new.

 7. The astronauts point out the Sea of Tranquility while on the dark side of
 the moon. It is on the other side.

 6. A technician at the cape is wearing a Rockwell International logo on his
 coveralls. The Apollo capsule was built by North American, which did not
 become Rockwell International until after the Apollo program.

 5. The gantry arms for the Saturn V are released in unison, not one at a
 time.

 4. During entry, the spacecraft is shown hurling directly at the earth. At
 that angle, it would punch a brief but fiery hole through the atmosphere.
 It should be aiming towards the horizon.

 3. The paint pattern on the Saturn V is for the test configuration, not the
 launch configuration.

 2. The astronauts look at their intended landing site while on the dark side
 of the moon. It is a good thing they didn't land - no communications with
 Earth, it's dark and very cold.

 AND THE NUMBER ONE TECHNICAL ERROR/ANACHRONISM in APOLLO 13 is:

 1. In space, from outside the capsule, propulsion jets do not make any
 noise.


52.1166musta been somethin it ateHBAHBA::HAASbuggedFri Aug 04 1995 14:310
52.1167LJSRV2::KALIKOWHi-ho! Yow! I'm surfing Arpanet!Fri Aug 04 1995 14:417
     9. One engineer checks an astronaut's addition using a slide rule.
        Slide rules are not used for addition.
    
    Hey waittaminnit, I provided a plausible explanation for that 'un!
    
    You mean they don't read ::SOAPBOX??  nevermind....
    
52.1168DASHER::RALSTONIdontlikeitsojuststopit!!Fri Aug 04 1995 14:504
    I remember being taught how to add on a sliderule. Of course I don't
    remember how to do it. But I think that you can.
    
    ...Tom
52.11693 and countingPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Aug 04 1995 14:544
  .1168  oh good, then we can use one to count the number of times
	 that's pointed out.

52.1170POLAR::RICHARDSONThank You KindlyFri Aug 04 1995 15:031
    Beverly?
52.1171Mercury has a dark side, the moon does not....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftFri Aug 04 1995 15:169
    
    The genuine NASA dweebs ain't very good...
    
| 7. The astronauts point out the Sea of Tranquility while on the dark side of
| the moon. It is on the other side.
    
    There is no dark side of the moon.  There is a far side to the moon.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1172SPSEG::COVINGTONWhen the going gets weird...Fri Aug 04 1995 15:171
    Same goes for #2.
52.1173Bunch of nutters!!!SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Fri Aug 04 1995 15:186
    
    
    Pink Floyd lied????
    
    Why do they lie????
    
52.1174Already 3 of the top ten dweeb list are wrong....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftFri Aug 04 1995 15:197
| 2. The astronauts look at their intended landing site while on the dark side
| of the moon. It is a good thing they didn't land - no communications with
| Earth, it's dark and very cold.
    
    There is no dark side of the moon.  There is a far side of the moon.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1175Just for the sake of completenessDECWIN::RALTOStay in bed, float upstreamFri Aug 04 1995 15:218
    >>          -< Mercury has a dark side, the moon does not.... >-
    
    I could be wrong, but I think at some point astronomers found
    that Mercury's day isn't the same length as its year after all.
    The year is still around 88 of our days, but its day is something
    like 59 of our days, if I'm remembering correctly.
    
    Chris
52.1176SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Fri Aug 04 1995 15:213
    
    I'll never listen to their CD again!!!
    
52.1177WAHOO::LEVESQUEthe heat is onFri Aug 04 1995 15:223
52.1178PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Aug 04 1995 15:259
    
    
>>    Pink Floyd lied????
    
>>    Why do they lie????

    maybe they didn't lie.  maybe they're just comfortably dumb.
    

52.1179SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Fri Aug 04 1995 15:279
    
    More like "comfortably numb"...
    
    Dumb... numb... still no excuse for lying... 
    
    
    
      Except if your a "nutter" that is....
    
52.1180DASHER::RALSTONIdontlikeitsojuststopit!!Fri Aug 04 1995 15:295
    >Mercury has a dark side, the moon does not...
    
    I thought it was the Force that had the dark side!?  :)
    
    ...Tom
52.1181PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Aug 04 1995 15:315
    
>>    More like "comfortably numb"...

	yes well that was the joke, andrew.  

52.1182DEVLPR::DKILLORANIt ain't easy, bein' sleezy!Fri Aug 04 1995 15:398
    
    > I thought it was the Force that had the dark side!?  :)

    Duct tape is the force, it has a light side, a dark side, and hold the
    universe together....

    :-)
    Dan
52.1183DASHER::RALSTONIdontlikeitsojuststopit!!Fri Aug 04 1995 16:016
    Duct tape is great, duct tape is good, let us thank it for our
    universe!
    
    :)
    
    ...Tom
52.1185POWDML::LAUERLittleChamberPrepositionalPunishmentTue Aug 08 1995 19:524
    
    Roger Ebert ever HAD credibility 8^)?
    
    
52.1186CSC32::J_OPPELTWanna see my scar?Tue Aug 08 1995 20:361
    	I liked "Forget Paris"
52.1187SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Tue Aug 08 1995 20:373
    
    Parley voos frank-case??
    
52.1188SMURF::BINDERNight's candles are burnt out.Wed Aug 09 1995 14:252
    Saw "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" again this w/e.  Had forgotten
    the bitterly poignant ending.  Great film.
52.1189KDCA03::CDCUP_GREENETue Aug 15 1995 18:333
    Saw "OUTBREAK" lastnight, pretty scary stuff!
    
    			Chris
52.1190TROOA::COLLINSA 9-track mind...Tue Aug 15 1995 18:458
    
    Crewman Greene hasn't introduced him/herself!!
    
    Away wi'ya to Topic 19, and doan come back 'til we've been given the
    poop, the whole poop, and nuttin' but the poop.
    
    :^)
    
52.1191It's a Chris MassTROOA::BUTKOVICHblink and I'm goneWed Aug 16 1995 03:268
    Another "Chris" in the box - how many are we up to now??
    
    Moi (Butkovich)
    Hedley
    Rialto
    Wilson
    Kelly
    Greene
52.1192hey Chris...KDCA03::CDCUP_GREENEWed Aug 16 1995 11:134
    O.k I am now registered in note 19.
    
    
    		see ya!!!
52.1193WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Aug 21 1995 11:178
    watched Nobody's Fool with Paul Neuman, Bruce Willis, Melanie
    Griffith, and Jessica Tandy good movie. excellent job by Paul
    ("Sully")...
    
    also watched Circle of Friends with Minnie Driver and Chris O'Donnell.
    see this one and you won't be disappointed. watchout bookworms. the
    ending in the book and the movie are little different (what a
    surprise).
52.1194SMURF::BINDERNight's candles are burnt out.Mon Aug 21 1995 16:196
    Yup, Circle of Friends was a very enjoyable film.
    
    Watched Truly, Madly, Deeply on video lat night.  I liked it.  Subtle,
    richly emotional with zero Hollyweird emoting.  Quite a change for Alan
    Rickman from the nutter in Die Hard or the Sheriff of Nottingham in
    Costner's laughable Robin Hood thing.
52.1195PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Aug 21 1995 16:248
    
>>    Watched Truly, Madly, Deeply on video lat night.  I liked it.  Subtle,

	an excellent film.  what's the woman's name?  Julie Stevenson or
	something like that?  i can't remember now, but anyways - she's a
	hell of a good actress.  and Rickman was to die for, so to speak.


52.1196GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberMon Aug 21 1995 16:455
    
    Saw "Payback" over the weekend.  I thought it was pretty good.  One of
    the better sex scenes that I've seen in a movie.  ;')
    
    
52.1197WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Aug 21 1995 16:581
    ummm, er Mike. who was in this movie?
52.1198GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberMon Aug 21 1995 17:006
    
    I don't do actors and actresses names, Chris.  Have enough trouble
    remembering my own name.  The leading actress, however, has just made
    it to the top of my most boinkable celeb list.
    
    Mike
52.1199WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Aug 21 1995 17:022
    -1 why you can call me Ray or you can call me Raymond bucha doesn't
       has ta call me Chris... :-)
52.1200TROOA::COLLINSA 9-track mind...Mon Aug 21 1995 17:297
    
    `Truly, Madly, Deeply' was a *great* film.  Juliet Stevenson, I think
    her name was.  She was also in `Drowning By Numbers', another great
    film.  I've always like Alan Rickman.  There was another film of his
    I've been meaning to check out, `Close My Eyes'.  Supposed to be a
    fairly heavy movie.
    
52.1201CSOA1::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Aug 21 1995 18:5910
    Saw First Knight, liked it.  A decent "Arthurian" incarnation that
    lacked bad language, nudity and sex scenes.  A rather clean movie,
    actually, besides the bits of necessary violence in the army battles
    and sword fights.
    
    A breath of fresh air to this person who's sick to death of four-letter
    words and sex scenes in movies.
    
    
    -steve
52.1202DASHER::RALSTONIdontlikeitsojuststopit!!Mon Aug 21 1995 19:017
    >A breath of fresh air to this person who's sick to death of four-letter
    >words and sex scenes in movies.
    
    
    I agree with the four-letter word part.    :)
    
    
52.1203loved that guyCSLALL::HENDERSONLearning to leanTue Aug 22 1995 01:0516


>    -1 why you can call me Ray or you can call me Raymond bucha doesn't
>       has ta call me Chris... :-)



  My name is Raymond J Johnson Junior, but you can call me Ray, or you
  can call me Jay, or you can call me Johnny, or you can call me Sonny,
  you can call me RJ, or you can call me RJJ or you can call me RJJ Junior,
  but ya doesn't hafta call me Johnson.



 Jim
52.1204POLAR::RICHARDSONFirsthand Bla Bla BlaTue Aug 22 1995 15:033
    Saw Pocahooters last week with the kids. what an incredibly boring
    movie. The Lion King is pretty tough to beat for entertainment value or
    Beauty And The Beast for that matter.
52.1205PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 22 1995 15:054
	saw "the lion king" last night (prolly the last person in the galaxy
	to see it).  the hyenas were awesome.

52.1206SMURF::BINDERNight's candles are burnt out.Tue Aug 22 1995 15:074
    > (prolly the last person in the galaxy
    > to see it)
    
    Nope.
52.1207SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Tue Aug 22 1995 15:105
    
    
    Nope again... tape's been sitting on top of the VCR lo these 6 or so
    months....
    
52.1208PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 22 1995 15:134
	okay, so that's two people, unless richard knew that andrew
	hadn't seen it.

52.1209DRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC: ReClaim TheName!Tue Aug 22 1995 15:142
    3
    
52.1211TROOA::COLLINSA 9-track mind...Tue Aug 22 1995 15:183
    
    4
    
52.1212PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 22 1995 15:243
	well, i was certainly in good company then.  er... in my opinion.

52.1213MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Aug 22 1995 15:252
Don makes John 5, and that would make me 6.

52.1214TROOA::COLLINSA 9-track mind...Tue Aug 22 1995 15:283
    
    I also have not seen `E.T.', `The Wizard Of Oz', and `Gone With The Wind'.
    
52.1215MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Aug 22 1995 15:292
Yet you DO know what movies are?

52.1216WAHOO::LEVESQUEthe heat is onTue Aug 22 1995 15:291
    So what's this, not having seen the Lion King is some badge of honor?
52.1217But not "I don't use a computer"....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Aug 22 1995 15:303
    On the order of "I don't have a TeeVee" it seems.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1218PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 22 1995 15:307
    
    I also have not seen... `The Wizard Of Oz'...

   <faints, regains consciousness>  HUH!??  i think you must
   be kidding, oh yes i do.
    

52.1219TROOA::COLLINSA 9-track mind...Tue Aug 22 1995 15:323
    
    Hey, these things just happen (or rather, *fail* to happen).
    
52.1220PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 22 1995 15:376
	.1219  so if people say stuff like "Toto too?",  "if you only had
	       a brain", or "Auntie Em!  Auntie Em!" - you're completely
	       in the dark?  i find this deeply troubling, for some reason.

	
52.1222POLAR::RICHARDSONFirsthand Bla Bla BlaTue Aug 22 1995 15:431
    <--- Don't remember that one.
52.1223MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Aug 22 1995 15:433
That must have actually been "1001 Dalmatians: The Next Generation".


52.1224...and your little dog, too!TROOA::COLLINSA 9-track mind...Tue Aug 22 1995 15:447
    
    .1220:
    
    Oh, I've seen snippets here and there, but I've never sat down and
    watched the whole thing (unless I did when I was 3 or something and
    have since forgotten it).
    
52.1221NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Aug 22 1995 15:502
I probably haven't SEEN a movie that Disney's made since 101 Dalmatians.
							 ^^^
52.1225MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Aug 22 1995 15:554
Actually, I would have to agree that portions of the musical scores
for some of the recent Disney stuff (Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin,
Little Mermaid) are very well done and have some redeeming value.
The Broadway soundtrack for B&tB is quite good.
52.1226re .1217 MrBillDRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC: ReClaim TheName!Tue Aug 22 1995 15:595
    Not eggzackly "I don't have a TV," but "I don't have kiddies (and don't
    plan to) (anymore and am a grandparent-in-waiting)."
    
    Mark me down for the latter...
    
52.1227One and only one, or even noneDECWIN::RALTOStay in bed, float upstreamTue Aug 22 1995 16:1717
    If you must see one and only one Disney movie, my pick would be
    "Aladdin"; fast-paced, action, humor, romance, great characters
    all around.  It's got it all.  The others (including "The Lion
    King") all have serious defects in at least one major area that
    have left me saying "I would've done it this way instead", which
    for me is the Kiss O'Death for a movie, animated or not.
    
    As long as I'm talking about "one and only one", the only Star
    Trek movie really worth seeing is "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan".
    
    And if you must see one and only one disaster movie, it'd be hard
    to beat the sadistic glee embodied in "The Towering Inferno", which
    I just saw (unedited, presumably) on AMC.  You got a fear, it's here.
    Fear of fire, fear of heights, fear of water, fear of sharp pointy
    glass, fear of Fred Astaire, you got it.
    
    Chris
52.1228GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Tue Aug 22 1995 16:188
    
    oh, joan...how could you have *not* seen 'twoz'??????  remind me to
    invite you over and have an oz fest next time you are in town! 
    
    
    :>
    
    
52.1229But I changed channels after the first 537...DECWIN::RALTOStay in bed, float upstreamTue Aug 22 1995 16:194
    Oh, and I thought I saw "1001 Damnations" on The Religious Channel
    the other night...
    
    Chris
52.1231TROOA::COLLINSA 9-track mind...Tue Aug 22 1995 16:313
    
    I saw `Fantasia' on another kind of trip...
    
52.1232POLAR::RICHARDSONFirsthand Bla Bla BlaTue Aug 22 1995 16:331
    On the Cannes Bus?
52.1233TROOA::COLLINSA 9-track mind...Tue Aug 22 1995 16:343
    
    dope, er, I mean nope.
    
52.1235DEVLPR::DKILLORANIt ain't easy, bein' sleezy!Tue Aug 22 1995 16:385
    
    > glass, fear of Fred Astaire, you got it.
    
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - that one had me in stitches....
    
52.1236Oh myPOWDML::CKELLYThe Proverbial Bad PennyTue Aug 22 1995 16:452
    so, am i 7 on the lion king list?  also missed b&theb, aladdin and et.
    
52.1237BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Aug 22 1995 16:463

	do bits and pieces count as seeing the lion king? 
52.1238MPGS::MARKEYfunctionality breeds contemptTue Aug 22 1995 16:538
    
    i just saw lk for the first time too... the kids tied me down and
    made me watch it sunday night... :-)
    
    pretty weak as disney animated films go... the biggest problem
    was simba's transition from "cubhood" to "adulthood".
    
    -b
52.1239like in one secondPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 22 1995 16:554
>>    simba's transition from "cubhood" to "adulthood".

	they grow up so fast these days, don't they?

52.1240MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Aug 22 1995 16:572
It's that morphing software .. . 

52.1241GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Tue Aug 22 1995 17:039
    add me to the list of not seeing the lion king (and my s.o. owns it,
    too).  i haven't seen a lot of disney movies, as i read a lot of them
    as a kid.  i/we got 'snow white and the 7 dwarfs' for xmas (i bought it
    for him, not knowing he bought one for me, and visa versa), and we
    still haven't watched either one...
    
    i have seen (and cried, like the wuss that i am) the fox and the hound
    recently.  i like that one.  
    
52.1242NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Aug 22 1995 17:055
>               i/we got 'snow white and the 7 dwarfs' for xmas (i bought it
>    for him, not knowing he bought one for me, and visa versa), and we
>    still haven't watched either one...

Did you sell your hair to buy it?  Did he sell his watch?
52.1243The mane flaws of "The Lion King"DECWIN::RALTOStay in bed, float upstreamTue Aug 22 1995 17:1325
    re: fear of Fred Astaire
    
    Yeah, he was really scary, even though they made him stay on
    the floor in this movie, probably because if they'd let him dance
    on the walls or the ceiling like in his other movies, he might have
    been able to put out the fire.
    
    
    re: Lion King "adult transition"
    
    Yes, that was one big problem (to see the way to do the "growing up"
    thing right, catch that ancient perennial TV special "Rudolph the
    Red-Nosed Reindeer" in a few months).
    
    Another big problem for me was that most of the characterizations
    were either weak or inconsistent (especially that of the main
    character, a serious defect).  The lion father and uncle were the
    only strongly-defined characters.
    
    In addition, the causal relationships between events and actions were
    frequently confused and required a strong suspension of disbelief.
    
    Plus, I got suckered in for at least $20 (there ya go, Jack :-)).
    
    Chris
52.1244More time would have added zippo to the plot....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Aug 22 1995 17:148
    
|   pretty weak as disney animated films go... the biggest problem
|   was simba's transition from "cubhood" to "adulthood".
    
    If anything, I thought they spent too long on the transition myself.
    Catchy tune and all, but....
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1245are you achin' for some bacon?PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 22 1995 17:195
>>    Catchy tune and all, but....

	i could have done without the entire score, except for the brief
	hula number, which was perfection.

52.1246I've got my horse right here, his name is Paul Revere....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Aug 22 1995 17:275
    
    Let me guess.  You don't like musicals?  (How come the only musicals on
    film these days are animated?)
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1247POWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesTue Aug 22 1995 17:344
    
    Fugue for Tinhorns!
    
    Oh, I need to rent that movie again soon.  Thank you, mr.bill.
52.1248PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 22 1995 17:367
    
>>    Let me guess.  You don't like musicals? 


	bad guess.

52.1249Good guess...SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Tue Aug 22 1995 17:371
    
52.1250good gravyPOWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesTue Aug 22 1995 17:382
    
    
52.1251mashed potatoes??SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Tue Aug 22 1995 17:391
    
52.1252gravy boatGRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA memberTue Aug 22 1995 17:393
    
    
    
52.1253BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Aug 22 1995 17:439
| <<< Note 52.1240 by MOLAR::DELBALSO "I (spade) my (dogface)" >>>

| It's that morphing software .. .

	SSCCRREEAAAAMMM!!!!!!   Too funny Jack! You sure are lucky to have such
a great sense of humor! 



52.1254RUSURE::GOODWINTue Aug 22 1995 17:591
    That's not funny
52.1255WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Aug 22 1995 18:021
    who's to say
52.1256BIGQ::SILVADiabloTue Aug 22 1995 18:091
  i think he did....
52.1257WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Aug 22 1995 18:111
    -1 ahhh, thanks Glen
52.1258Second guess?PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Aug 22 1995 18:114
    
    Then you don't like musicians with two first names?
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1259PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 22 1995 18:176
    
>>    Then you don't like musicians with two first names?

	I didn't like the particular tunes in this movie
	very much.  Simple as that, my dear.

52.1260MPGS::MARKEYfunctionality breeds contemptTue Aug 22 1995 18:178
    >If anything, I thought they spent too long on the transition myself.
    >Catchy tune and all, but....
    
    it wasn't the time spent on it, mr. bill... it was the fact that
    the before/after character had little connection in terms of
    personality, motivation, etc.
    
    -b
52.1261CTHU26::S_BURRIDGETue Aug 22 1995 18:237
    As I saw it, Simba was traumatized by the death of his father and the
    spin put on it by scar, ran away, & lived an irresponsible life in
    another area until his childhood friend and the shaman showed up,
    reminded him of who he was, and led him to face up to his
    reponsibilities.  I thought it was reasonably credible.
    
    -Stephen
52.1262SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Tue Aug 22 1995 18:256
    
    
    Hey... hey... hey!!!!!!!!!
    
    You're spoiling it for us what ain't seen it yet!!!!!
    
52.1263PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 22 1995 18:342
  oh, and everyone dies at the end.
52.1264:)SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Tue Aug 22 1995 18:355
    
    <---------
    
    Oh!! I get it!!! Just like your typical musical....
    
52.1265MPGS::MARKEYfunctionality breeds contemptTue Aug 22 1995 18:379
    
    actually, there is one _excellent_ thing to be said about lion king:
    
    
    
    
    		angela lansbury was not involved.
    
    -b
52.1266Thanks.AIMHI::MARTINactually Rob Cashmon, NHPM::CASHMONWed Aug 23 1995 09:104
    
    Between the "fear of Fred Astaire" and Gerald's "Three Magi" reference,
    this was the funniest string I've read in a while.
    
52.1267Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnMon Aug 28 1995 04:056
    My VCR is busted !! I can't be bothered to get it fixed as I won't be
    needing it's services for much longer.... Oh well.
    
    Apparently a group of us are going to watch Judge Dredd next weekend.
    
    Anygood ????
52.1268SCAS01::GUINEO::MOOREHEY! All you mimes be quiet!Mon Aug 28 1995 04:064
    
    Judge Dredd...hmmm...not the comic book, by any means.
    
    Banal mind candy.
52.1269Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnMon Aug 28 1995 04:105
    Ya mean I should take some tottie and find other means of, errr,
    entertainment !
    
    I was never one for comic books..... But I have played the pinball
    machine :*)
52.1270Talk LardCBHVAX::CBHLager LoutMon Aug 28 1995 09:584
I've heard that Judge Dredd is pretty violent, so it must be good!  (And
in keeping with the comic strip, I guess)

Chris.
52.1271BROKE::PARTSMon Aug 28 1995 16:078
    
    
    i saw "Glen or Glenda" (a rhino tape).  a nice compliment to "Ed Wood"
    which i though was very funny.  
    
    "Pull da string!  PULL DA STRING!"
    
                                  
52.1272"Home? I have no home..."AIMHI::MARTINactually Rob Cashmon, NHPM::CASHMONTue Aug 29 1995 06:1315
    
    re -1
    
    If you haven't seen "Bride of the Monster" or "Plan 9 from Outer Space"
    yet, see those next.  You will definitely be ROTFL, especially since
    you already know some of the "behind-the-scenes" humor from having
    seen "Ed Wood."
    
    Anyone can make a bad movie, but it takes a special kind of genius
    to make movies that are THAT bad.  Ed Wood was a god.
    
    
    
    Rob
    
52.1273CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenTue Aug 29 1995 11:583
    Watched Generations last night.  Disappointing.  I thought I was
    watching a 2 hour version of ST:TNG.  I did get a laugh out of Data and
    his new found humanity.
52.1274KDCA03::CDCUP_GREENEWed Aug 30 1995 11:306
    Watched 'Quick and the Dead' last night.
    Not a bad flick, mainly due to Sharon Stone.
    Would this be one of her only movies where
    she is not peeling it all off?
    
               Chris
52.1275DEVLPR::DKILLORANDanimalWed Aug 30 1995 14:264
    
    The "Quick and the Dead".... sounds like a documentary about driving in
    the PRM....:-)
    
52.1276BROKE::PARTSWed Aug 30 1995 15:5611
    
    
   | Anyone can make a bad movie, but it takes a special kind of genius
   | to make movies that are THAT bad.  Ed Wood was a god.
    
    After seeing "Glen or Glenda" I had come to the same conclusion.
    Wood strikes a balance between being totally incoherent (and
    uninteresting) and being simple mediocre (also uninteresting).
    He definitily had a talent, one that is hard to define.  
    
             
52.1277WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Aug 30 1995 18:122
    .1274 i hope not Chris. that would make another one of her films
          with no redeeming value :-)
52.1278POWDML::BUCKLEYgive em the boot!Wed Aug 30 1995 21:206
    | After seeing "Glen or Glenda" I had come to the same conclusion.
    | Wood strikes a balance between being totally incoherent (and
    | uninteresting) and being simple mediocre (also uninteresting).
    
    
    They made a movie about Glen Silva?!?!?
52.1279Gesundheit!MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Aug 31 1995 00:345
One of my favorite Walter Matthau flicks on TNT tonight -
   The Taking of Pelham One Two Three
Even has Martin Balsam, Robert Shaw, and Jerry Stiller
(in the only decent dramatic performance of his career.)

52.1280BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Aug 31 1995 00:497
| <<< Note 52.1278 by POWDML::BUCKLEY "give em the boot!" >>>

| They made a movie about Glen Silva?!?!?


	Buck.... shhhh..... and don't tell them about my refrigerator magnet
about my....errr the same movie.... :-)
52.1281POLAR::RICHARDSONI have blurred areasThu Aug 31 1995 00:491
    <--- The man gets cable and he falls apart.
52.1282MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Aug 31 1995 00:5211
re: .1279

Unfortunately Ted Turner's censors are removing enough words to make
the whole experience less than enjoyable, even though they broadcast
the "Some scenes may not be suitable for all viewers" caveat ahead
of time.

sigh.

By the time you add in the commercials, it's pretty much ruined.

52.1283He should know better to make you unhappy.....BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Aug 31 1995 00:598

	Jack.... looks like Ted Turner is unlucky.... he didn't make you happy.
Maybe he's too busy thinking about that merger to figure out that commercials
ruin good movies..... 


Glen
52.1284POLAR::RICHARDSONI have blurred areasThu Aug 31 1995 01:019
              eh?
	      /
	  oO)-.
	 /__  _\       
	 \  \(  |      
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	  '  '--'   
    
52.1285CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenThu Aug 31 1995 11:551
    Censor the censors!
52.1287DEVLPR::DKILLORANDanimalThu Aug 31 1995 13:393
    
    The delete 'God' ?  That's a new one on me..... :-(
    
52.1289GOOEY::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Thu Aug 31 1995 14:199
    
    
    	I caught part of a movie the other night while flipping
    	channels.  (don't know what channel I landed on)  They
    	dubbed in the word "frickin" for the other 'f' word......
    	And it was used so many times in succession it became
    	quite comical.  I don't think any real person would use
    	'frickin' that many times in one sentence.  =)
    
52.1290DEVLPR::DKILLORANDanimalThu Aug 31 1995 14:3217
    
    re:.1288
    
    > Most likely only when it used to precede the word "damn" ...
    
    DOH ! <smaq>
    
    I shoulda knowd dat!
    
    re:.1289
    
    > dubbed in the word "frickin" for the other 'f' word......
    
    What other 'f' word.....????
    
    <innocent look>
    
52.1291SMURF::BINDERNight's candles are burnt out.Thu Aug 31 1995 15:537
    .1279
    
    > Jerry Stiller
    > (in the only decent dramatic performance of his career.)
    
    Not so.  Stiller was a featured performer in the brand-new six-episode
    radio drama "Blacklisted," on NPR.
52.1292ThankyouMOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Aug 31 1995 17:092
I did not know that.

52.1293SMURF::BINDERNight's candles are burnt out.Thu Aug 31 1995 17:375
    Well, Jack, you too can tune in to hear the series on WGBH radio next
    week.
    
    Or ahn't yew lucky enough ta git 'GBH up theyah in them New Hampsha
    hills?
52.1294MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Aug 31 1995 17:506
>    Or ahn't yew lucky enough ta git 'GBH up theyah in them New Hampsha
>    hills?

Sometimes, if I put the big ladder up to the peak of the roof, and hold
the transistor radio in my teeth whilst I lift a straightened coathanger
overhead.
52.1295NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Aug 31 1995 18:101
Jack, are you feeling lucky?  Do it in a thunderstorm.
52.1296Toronto Film Festival : Sept 7-16th/95TROOA::TRP109::Chrisblink and I'm goneThu Aug 31 1995 21:5215
The Toronto Film Festival starts next Thursday. I love it! 
(mostly because my youngest brother is the box office manager and
 I can scam lots of free tickets) Usually go to 1-2 movies a night
during the week and have been known to go to 4 movies in a day on
the weekend!  Last year I sat beside Anthony LaPaglia at one movie
and behind Tim Robbins for the "Shawshank Redemption" screening.
One of the events I am looking forward to this year is a discussion
night with Siskel and Ebert.  This is the 20th anniversay of the
festival and they are going to show a bunch of clips of movies that
have been here and take questions from the audience.  The audiences
sure are different at these movies - you can actually get through
a whole film without hearing any dialogue from people in the theatre.

Anyhow... the festival has a pretty neat homepage that you can find
at http://www.bell.ca/toronto/filmfest
52.1297Very DrySTRATA::BARBIERITue Sep 05 1995 17:338
      Well, I gave Truly, Madly, Deeply a shot and consider it 
      dryer than any martini Binder could make (imo)!!!
    
      I couldn't stay up through it.
    
      Man, was it dry!
    
    						Tony
52.1298NETCAD::WOODFORDWhere do I begin?....etc.Tue Sep 05 1995 17:437
    
    
    I watched Lorenzo's Oil last night on T.V.  Fascinating docudrama.
    I cried....
    
    Saw Waterworld this past weekend.  It stunk.
    
52.1299Who owns poetry?PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Sep 05 1995 17:5214
    The Postman (Il Postino).  The only unenjoyable part of the movie was
    that The Capitol has shoehorned one more movie screen into the original
    theater.  (Behind the original big screen.)  It is somewhat like
    watching a film in a 737.  (I lie, why do I lie?)
    
    If you disliked Cinema Paradiso, you'll dislike this movie as well.
    I loved both.
    
    
    Best of all, Marsden loved The Goofy Movie.  He watched it after we
    dropped him off that night, and watched it again before we picked him
    up the next morning.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1300NETCAD::WOODFORDWhere do I begin?....etc.Tue Sep 05 1995 17:544
    
    
    Movie snarf.
    
52.1301TROOA::COLLINSOccam's AftershaveTue Sep 05 1995 17:549
    
    I saw `Desperado' yesterday afternoon.  I have this strange feeling 
    I've seen it before.
    
    At least `Pulp Fiction' had a story (three stories, actually).
    
    This was nothing but wall-to-wall mayhem, and only ONE person DOESN'T
    get shot.
    
52.1302POWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesTue Sep 05 1995 17:555
    
    I'm going to give up watching movies made from books.  It's just too
    frustrating.
    
    
52.1303PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Sep 05 1995 18:156
	"Cinema Paradiso" was great.

	finally watched "Babbette's Feast".  dot vas goot.  
	slightly bizarro, but i likes 'em that way.

52.1304BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Tue Sep 05 1995 18:155
    
    	What'd you see ... "Disclosure"?
    
    	Or "The Bridges of Madison County"?
    
52.1305POWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesTue Sep 05 1995 18:209
    
    
    Um, no...two versions of Dickens' _Oliver Twist_ 8^).
    
    One was the ~1940 film and the other the ~1969 musical.  They each should 
    have been required to state in their opening credits "Extremely loosely 
    adapted from Dickens".  
    
    
52.1306BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Tue Sep 05 1995 18:226
    
    	Oh ... before my time.  8^)
    
    	If it doesn't have a fair amount of nudity, or gore, or comedy,
    	then I probably haven't seen it.
    
52.1307PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Sep 05 1995 18:233
 .1305 that's where the "twist" part comes in.

52.1308NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Sep 05 1995 18:263
> .1305 that's where the "twist" part comes in.

That could also be re .1306.
52.1309MPGS::MARKEYLook at the BONES!Tue Sep 05 1995 19:197
    > I watched Lorenzo's Oil last night on T.V.  Fascinating docudrama.
    > I cried....
    
    {chuckle} You cried, no doubt, due to Nick Nolte's attempt
    at an Italian accent! :-)
    
    -b
52.1310BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Tue Sep 05 1995 19:445
    
    	Italian?  Is that what that was?
    
    	I could've sworn it was Irish.
    
52.1311NETCAD::WOODFORDWhere do I begin?....etc.Tue Sep 05 1995 20:179
    
    
    Hey!  It was a heart-wrenching story!  I don't care about
    the accent.  I care about the fact that it's a true story,
    and what those poor children had to go through.
    
    
    Terrie
    
52.1312The expurgated version?! Without the gannet?!AIMHI::MARTINactually Rob Cashmon, NHPM::CASHMONWed Sep 06 1995 08:5611
    
    re .1305, Mz_Debra,
    
    
    Are you sure they weren't adapted from Dikkens?  You know, 
    Charles Dikkens, the noted Dutch author.
    
    
    
    Rob
    
52.1313POWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesWed Sep 06 1995 12:4910
    
    No, well we don't have "Rarnaby Budge" by Charles Dikkens with two Ks, 
    the well-known Dutch author, and perhaps to save time I should add that 
    we don't have "Karnaby Fudge" by Darles Chickens, or "Farmer of Sludge" 
    by Marles Pickens, or even "Stickwick Stapers" by Farles Wickens with 
    four M's and a silent Q!  
    
    Why don't you try W. H. Smith's?
    
    
52.1314BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Wed Sep 06 1995 13:514
    
    	I knew that sounded familiar, and took me a few seconds to realize
    	where I'd heard it before.
    
52.1315TKTVFS::NEMOTOno facts, only interpretationsMon Sep 11 1995 14:094
Saw "Boys on The Side".  

Why Whoopi (sp?) is Whoopi, by the way?  
52.1316TROOA::BUTKOVICHblink and I'm goneMon Sep 11 1995 14:452
    Her real name is Karen something but I don't know why she
    changed it to Whoopi
52.1317MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Sep 11 1995 14:512
How did the Nicholson flick turn out, Chris?

52.1318GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Mon Sep 11 1995 15:586
    
    karen johnson is her real name and she no longer wanted to have such a
    plain, boring 'librarianish' name.  or so she once said to babara
    walters.
    
    
52.1319DEVLPR::DKILLORANDanimalMon Sep 11 1995 16:555
    
    Saw "The Prophecy" over the weekend.  I'd give it about a B-.  A little
    gory in parts, but over all not a bad flick.  An acceptable way to spend a
    couple of hours.

52.1320GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Mon Sep 11 1995 16:597
    
    watched "murder in the first" last nite...i liked it, tho it was a bit
    sad.  it was also kind of neat to watch a movie shot in an area that i had
    been in recently.
    
    
    
52.1321BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Mon Sep 11 1995 17:486
    
    	Rented "Kiss of Death" the other night, starring David Caruso,
    	Nicolas Cage and Helen Hunt.
    
    	Pretty good movie, even though Helen didn't last too long.
    
52.1322Next batchTROOA::BUTKOVICHblink and I'm goneTue Sep 12 1995 06:0565
    The Crossing Guard (**** out of *****) - Saw the N.A. Gala on Sunday
    night - Sean Penn is the writer and director of this movie, and he was
    there, as well as one of the actors, David Morse (you may remember him
    from St. Elsewhere).  Sean didn't have much to say - he mentioned that
    Jack was sorry he couldn't be here, but that after doing 3 film
    festivals in a row, he was partied out. That would be Jack Nicholson,
    who gives another stellar performance (sure to win him another Oscar
    nomination). The cast also includes Angelica Houston, Robin Wright and
    smaller cameo roles by Robbie Robertson and Davie Baerwald. I am
    frankly amazed that Penn is the creative force behind this movie. He
    never seems to show any emotion, and this is a movie full of drama and
    painful emotions.  Nicholson plays Freddy Gale, a man in the grip of an
    overwhelming desire for revenge.  He has spent the years since his
    divorce hanging out in a strip bar, waiting for the prison release of
    John Booth (Morse), the man who has torn his life and that of his
    family to pieces.  He intends to kill Booth and tells his ex-wife
    (Houston). He is haunted by his dreams of revenge.  Booth, meanwhile,
    slowly re-acquaints himself with life outside the prison walls. His
    parents are overjoyed to welcome him home, and he slowly embarks on a
    relationship with a painter (Wright).  It isn't long before Freddy's
    anger and John's guilt come face to face. The writing, acting and
    directing of this movie are all excellent and a bonus for me was the
    main soundtrack song which is by Springsteen.
    
    The Stars Fell on Henrietta (**.5) - The sponsor for tonights Gala was
    a group whose name I am sorry I can't remember - they are dedicated to
    going to high schools and universities and pairing up students with
    developmentally handicapped adults.  I think it is called "Partners and
    Pals" or something along those lines.  Anthony Shriver gave a very
    articulate and meaningful description of the organization and then
    introduced us to one of the founders of the Special Olympics, his
    mother, Eunice (who looked very elegant in a black beaded dress). This
    had nothing to do with the topic in the movie.  The director, James
    Keach was the only "star" from the film and it made it more special to
    watch when he made us aware that this was based on the true story of
    his grandfather.  I was quite disappointed with the movie - the acting
    (Robert Duvall, Aidan Quinn, Frances Fisher and Brian Dennehy) was very
    competent, but I lost interest in the story - the pace was too slow and
    I didn't really care about the characters.  The story takes place in
    1935 on the farm of Don and Cora Day (Quinn and Fisher). Don rescues
    Mr. Cox (Duvall) from a dust storm and soon finds out that Mr. Cox has
    schemes for the farm which involve drilling for oil.  The movie
    basically deals with Mr. Cox's dream of the "big strike" and how he
    goes about trying to make it happen.  The cat was probably the role I
    liked best!
    
    A Month by the Lake (***)I would have given this movie another star if
    it ended with the same zest and appeal that it started with - I think
    it's another example of poor editing.  Three of the actors introduced
    the film - Vaness Redgrave had the lead role and was excellent, Uma
    Thurman and Alessandro Gassman (looked *very* familar - I think he may
    have been the lead in "Like Water for Chocolate").  I really want to go
    on vacation to Lake Come, Italy which is where the story takes place.
    It is set in the mountains and looks lush, etheral and beautiful. Miss
    Bentley (Regrave) has been coming to this paradise with her father all
    her life. Now he's gone and she's returned alone to take photographs
    and bask in nostalgia. Soon after her arrival, she encounters Major
    Wilshaw and falls madly in love.  Things seem to be going her way until
    the arrival of Miss Beaumont (Thurman) who is to be nanny for a
    visiting Italian family.  Her game is to flirt and play with the
    Major's feelings. This of course, evokes great feelings of jealousy in
    Miss Bentley. In the meantime, a handsome young local (Gassman) falls
    for Miss Bentley. The film started off as fun and frolicky was very
    engaging for the most part. It reminded me a bit of the Merchant Ivory
    productions, but showing more humour.
52.1323TROOA::BUTKOVICHblink and I'm goneTue Sep 12 1995 14:175
    Had the name of Anthony Shriver's charity organization wrong - read in
    this mornings paper that it is called "Best Buddies" . The film last
    night was used to raise money ($100,000.00) to start a chapter at York
    University here in Toronto.  He has the same good looks as the rest of
    the clan, and both Mrs and Sgt. Shriver are looking well and fit.
52.13243 more from the FestyTROOA::BUTKOVICHblink and I'm goneThu Sep 14 1995 05:1283
    I always try to choose a couple of movies a year that won't likely come
    to the theatres.  Last year, a couple of fantastic movies that saw very
    limited theatrical distribution were "Once were Warriors", and "Flight
    of the Innocent" - good rents if you get the chance.
    
    Wasn't quite as lucky with my selections this year:
    
    Heavy (** out of *****) - I choose this one because of the cast -
    Debbie Harry (from Blondie), Liv Tyler (Steve's daughter) Shelley
    Winters and Evan Dando (from the Lemonheads) and in fact, they were all
    very good.  The trouble is that the story and dialogue were so sparse
    that I almost fell asleep in the middle of the movie.The story involves
    an overweight and painfully shy adult man (Victor) who works in a bar 
    owned by his domineering mother. Winters was actually fairly subdued 
    which must be a first. Harry plays Delores, a tough-talking veteran 
    waitress and Tyler is Callie, the beautiful college dropout who shows up 
    and takes a job as a waitress.  Dando is her boyfriend. Victor develops
    an immediate crush on Callie, but can't bring himself to tell her.
    Instead, he has an active fantasy life.  A very quiet movie.
    
    Desolation Angels (***) - Choose this one hoping to see some high
    drama. It didn't disappoint in that respect, however the movie turned
    out to be something different than I thought.  The program description
    described a story where Nick returns to Brooklyn from a trip out of
    town and finds out that his girlfriend (MAry) has had sex with his best
    friend (Sid). However Mary and Sid have different ideas about what
    really happened. Mary claims that she was raped and Sid claims that
    there was mutual attraction. Nick resolves to find out whether or not
    it was seduction or assault.  I thought the film would deal more with
    the relationship between Mary and Nick and the aftermath of rape.  In
    fact, it was really a movie about the male ego.  Nick is more upset
    that his best friend betrayed their friendship than about Mary's
    feelings.  There was a question and answer session with the director
    (Tim McCann) after the screening and quite a few women in the audience
    took him to task for certain scenes - the consensus seemed to be that
    rape victims would not act as Mary does and why wasn't he more
    concerned with her feelings. He acknowledged that the film was always
    supposed to be more about the relationship between the guys.  The
    program also noted that McCann had been expelled from the SUNY Film
    Purchase Program but was expelled in 1987 and forbidden from ever
    returning to the campus because of a risque performance piece during
    graduation. Somebody in the audience asked him what he did, but he
    never provided an answer
    
    Saved the best for last....
    
    Frankie Starlight (****.5) - I wasn't expecting too much from this
    movie - basically chose it because it stars Gabriel Byrne and Matt
    Dillon and also because it was directed by Michael Lindsay-Hogg who
    directed "Let it Be", other musical videos and "Brideshead Revisted" I
    was enthralled for the entire movie.  It takes place over a number of
    years and the story flashes backwards and forwards from the main
    characters perspective. He is Frankie, a dwarf who is isolated in his
    adult years by his deformity. We learn about his mother's past - in
    1946 she stored away on an American troopship and partied with a number
    of the men until she was discovered by the ship's officer and then put
    off the boat in Ireland.  Alone, penniless and pregnant, she tries to
    make her way in this new country. She meets Jack (Byrne) who is married
    and has a family of his own but who is attracted to Bernadette and
    becomes her lover as well as a father figure to Frankie. Jack is an
    amateur astonomer and he inspires in Frank an abiding love of the night
    sky and dubs him "Frankie Starlight". After Jack and his family move
    away, Bernadette meets a young Texan (Dillon) who also helps Frank
    along the road to adulthood. He takes Frankie and his mother back to
    Texas, but she is never content. I don't want to give too much more of
    the story away. I hope this movie finds distribution because it is
    really special and very charming. The question and answer session after
    was great - Lindsay-Hogg is a real talker and some of the interesting
    points were:
    
    *  the adult Frankie was played by Rudi Davies who had never acted
    before. He is a famous sculpture in Dublin and hopes to act again,
    although the demand for dwarf actors is obviously slight
    
    * the young Frankie was played by a wonderful boy named Corban Walker.
    He is almost 13 and was more thrilled that he got to meet some of the
    British football players than he was with the actors he worked with
    
    * there is a film clip of "A Place in the Sun" used in this movie and
    someone asked why that clip - he answered that he wanted to use a clip
    that showed the most beautiful people at that time (Elizabeth Taylor
    and Montgomery Cliff) and contrast them to Frankie who may not have
    been beautiful on the outside, but he was on the inside
52.1325CSOA1::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Sep 14 1995 13:3010
    Somewhat off topic, but has anyone bought the new THX remastered
    cassettes of the Star Wars Trilogy?  If so, is the sound and video
    quality much better than the old version?
    
    Of course, if Sony/Phillips and Toshiba/Time Warner ever come to grips
    on a new DVD format, then I may just wait until the new format arrives
    to make my purchase.
    
    
    -steve
52.1326PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Sep 14 1995 13:4514
>          <<< Note 52.1324 by TROOA::BUTKOVICH "blink and I'm gone" >>>
>>    Frankie Starlight (****.5) - I wasn't expecting too much from this
>>    movie - basically chose it because it stars Gabriel Byrne and Matt

	Gabriel Byrne is frightfully attractive.


	Well, just got through the Krzysztof Kieslowski trilogy ("Blue"
	"White" "Red").  Three very interesting films, I must say.
	Why it's a trilogy, I'm not sure - I saw only one common
	denominator, until the very end where there was a perfunctory
	link.  Some excellent acting in all three and I really enjoyed
	the direction.  A refreshing change from the usual Hollywood dreck.

52.1327Red, White & BlueTROOA::BUTKOVICHblink and I'm goneThu Sep 14 1995 14:191
    Di - does it matter which order you watch them?
52.1328PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Sep 14 1995 15:0010
  
>>    Di - does it matter which order you watch them?

	well, as i said, there's the last-minute tie-in in
	"Red", but for all intents and purposes, no.  they're
	separate and distinct stories, characters, et al.
	if i had to watch all three again, i'd do it in
	the same order that i did (the intended order).

52.1329WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Fri Sep 15 1995 20:244
    A Walk in the Clouds, with Keanu Reeves.
    
    
    I'd grade it an F.
52.1330DASHER::RALSTONIdontlikeitsojuststopit!!Fri Sep 15 1995 20:395
    As I've mentioned my son is home from college for a couple of weeks.
    Last night he rented "Pulp Fiction". I thought it was a well made flick
    but very violent. The F-word and the N-word were every other word.
    This movie is not for the squeamish. It looks like it will turn out to
    be a cult film. Actually, I liked it.
52.1331BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Fri Sep 15 1995 20:468
    
    	I got "The Crow" and Mel Brooks' "History of the World, Part I"
    	a couple weeks ago, and last night watched "The Crow" again.
    	Excellent movie ... Brandon was great.
    
    	I haven't seen "History of the World, Part I" in years, so I'm
    	definitely going to watch it very soon.  Hilarious!!
    
52.1332Last Festival movie until next yearTROOA::BUTKOVICHblink and I'm goneSat Sep 16 1995 21:5626
    The Journey of August King (***.5 out of *****) - This is it, my last
    movie at the Film Festival. I am movied and popcorned out and gave away
    my last 3 sets of tickets. This last movie stars Jason Patric, Thandie
    Newton (she was in the Australian movie "Flirting" with Nicole Kidman -
    a good rent if you get the chance) and Larry Drake ("Benny" from L.A.
    Law). The setting is North Carolina, 1815 and slavery is very much a
    part of life in the American South. Runaway slaves are hunted down and
    dealt with very harshly. Patric plays August King, a mountain man who
    is returning to his homestead after picking up supplies. He comes
    across Analees who is a runaway slave.  Drake is the rich plantation
    owner, Olaf Singletary and when he discovers that Analees is missing,
    he sets up a reward and soon the entire community is on an intensive
    manhunt. August is a very quiet and unassuming man, and the movie
    basically deals with his change of heart.  At first, he just wants
    Analees to leave him.  Although he won't turn her in, he doesn't want
    to face the consequences of helping her. Soon after, he develops
    affection for her and is willing to conceal and attempt to find safety
    for her. The director (John Duigan) told us that the film took 45 days
    to shoot and that it poured rain for 39 of those days. I was amazed
    that this didn't really show in the movie - the North Carolina
    landscape is glorious.  One of the slight criticisms I have with this
    movie is how many people August and Analees kept meeting up with in the
    middle of the forest - it was like rush hour on the 401! The acting is
    very good, especially by Newton and Patric was his usual intense self.
    I wonder if this guy will ever do a movie where he gets to crack a
    smile or two?
52.1333CSC32::M_EVANSnothing's going to bring him backMon Sep 18 1995 15:204
    Watched "yellow Submarine" for the first time in over 15 years this
    weekend.  Some really interesting information in the animation there.
    
    meg
52.1334PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Sep 18 1995 15:2214
>>   <<< Note 52.1333 by CSC32::M_EVANS "nothing's going to bring him back" >>>

>>    Watched "yellow Submarine" for the first time in over 15 years this
>>    weekend.  Some really interesting information in the animation there.

	what a co-inky-dink.  just moments ago, i was trying to address
	the following weekly trivia question:

 In the 1968 Beatles cartoon fantasy "Yellow Submarine", what did
 Jeremy Boob, Ph.D, use to repair the sub's propeller, enabling the Fab Four
 to escape His Meaniness and the Blue Meanies?

	i had no idea.

52.1335MPGS::MARKEYMercenary geeks rool!Mon Sep 18 1995 15:244
    
    Bubble gum, wasn't it?
    
    -b
52.1336PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Sep 18 1995 15:317
    
>>    Bubble gum, wasn't it?

    uh-oh.  if it was, i may have to kill myself 'cuz that
    was my first guess, but i changed it.

52.1338CSC32::M_EVANSnothing's going to bring him backMon Sep 18 1995 17:063
    It was gum, don't kill yourself over it though.
    
    meg
52.1339PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Sep 18 1995 17:134
>>    It was gum, don't kill yourself over it though.

	see?  it's the story of my life.  that's it in a nutshell.
52.1340MPGS::MARKEYMercenary geeks rool!Mon Sep 18 1995 17:185
    >	see?  it's the story of my life.  that's it in a nutshell.
    
    So, you wanna go camping? :-)
    
    -b
52.1341PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Sep 18 1995 17:245
    
>>    So, you wanna go camping? :-)

	only if you bring someone we can light on fire.

52.1342UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonMon Sep 18 1995 18:307
I saw "Hideaway" last night...

Don't bother with it...

It was WORSE than Candyman II... (I know - hard to believe eh?)

/scott
52.1343BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Mon Sep 18 1995 18:383
    
    	"Hideaway", the book, was pretty good, I thought.
    
52.1344SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVETS Palo AltoMon Sep 18 1995 19:276
    We rented In the Line of Fire, a Clint Eastwood as Secret Service agent
    thriller.  John Malkovich as a renegade ex-CIA assassin did a nice job-
    it seemed like his makeup changed in every single scene, which, as
    someone trying to be inconspicuous, lent verisimilitude to the part.

    DougO
52.1345PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Sep 18 1995 19:314
	just watched pulp fiction too.  excellent.  stoltz was pretty
	funny.  i didn't know if QT could top reservoir dogs, but this
	was at least as good, i thought.  
52.1346POLAR::RICHARDSONGAK of all tradesMon Sep 18 1995 19:441
    I will never be able to look at a pommel horse the same way again.
52.1347Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnTue Sep 19 1995 02:434
    re .1333
    >         Some really interesting information in the animation there.
    
    Yeah man... like... far out... peace...
52.1348SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Tue Sep 19 1995 11:136
    
    re: Hideaway
    
    	I also liked the book. Movies never quite live up to a good read...
    
    jim
52.1349GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Tue Sep 19 1995 15:024
    
    is that dean koontz' hideaway???  good book...
    
    
52.1350BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Tue Sep 19 1995 15:065
    
    	One and the same.
    
    	I guess I'll wait for the movie to come to cable.
    
52.1351CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Thu Sep 21 1995 18:1711



 Anybody know if "The Big Bus" is on video?  Pretty funny movie about 
 a nuclear powered cross country bus.




 Jim
52.1352BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Thu Sep 21 1995 18:246
    
    	Never seen it on video.  I think it's been on UHF stations the
    	2 or 3 times I've seen it.
    
    	If I see it I'll let you know.
    
52.1353Fun flick... ;*)SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideThu Sep 21 1995 19:065

                       "Unleash the flags of all nations!"

        
52.1354CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Thu Sep 21 1995 19:144


 Lookout! He's got a milk carton!
52.1355SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideThu Sep 21 1995 20:324
                     "So why do they call you 'Shoulders'?"

        
52.1356CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Thu Sep 21 1995 20:524
 

  "OK, blow the orange soda"
52.1357CSOA1::LEECHDia do bheatha.Fri Sep 22 1995 19:261
    Did they have a bowling alley on the bus, or am I mixing up my movies?
52.1358CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Fri Sep 22 1995 19:3512


 Yes, they had a bowling alley.  One of the funnier scenes in the movie was
 people skipping over the bowling balls as they came back down the alley
 as the bus went up a hill.  They also had a pool and a dining room (pretty
 funny scenes there as well).  And a piano player in the lounge.




 Jim
52.1359looking for a shocker?SWAM1::MEUSE_DAFri Sep 22 1995 22:0915
    
    just heard a review of the new movie "Seven"
    Performances by Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman, outstanding.
    Well made, outstanding film, edge of your seat suspense.
    
    but...
    
    the reviewer said it makes "Silence of the Lambs', look tame.
    other words like, shocking, revolting and terrifying.
    
    guess I'll be at the matinee on Sunday.
    
    Dave
    
    
52.1360Seven - great flick!TROOA::BUTKOVICHblink and I'm goneMon Sep 25 1995 03:3313
    Saw it last night - I warn you ahead of time not to eat before seeing
    this movie (that means skipping the popcorn too!)  It was a terrific
    suspense movie, and while I wasn't sitting on the edge of my seat, my
    stomach did get tied up in knots and I was more than a little tense.
    You know a film is good when the theatre is actually quiet (when's the
    last time you saw a movie and you didn't have some moron talking all
    the way through it?)  Both Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman were excellent.
    I was disappointed that the Gwenyth Paltrow (sp?) character wasn't more
    developed - I think it would have made the movie stronger if the
    relationship between her character and Pitt's was shown a little more.
    This movie had some *very* graphic images and I found it to be very
    much along the same genre as "Silence of the Lambs", except even more
    disturbing.
52.1361Agreed.BSS::S_CONLONA Season of Carnelians...Mon Sep 25 1995 03:416
    We saw 'Seven' over the weekend, too - very gripping, disturbing
    film.  (I also agree that Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman were excellent
    in this.)
    
    If you plan to see this at all, see it soon (before you read any
    of the detailed reviews in the media.)
52.1362WAHOO::LEVESQUEsunlight held together by waterMon Sep 25 1995 11:091
    Sounds good. :-) I like "gripping, disturbing" films. :-)
52.1363CSOA1::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Sep 25 1995 11:457
    I saw Lords of Illusion over the weekend.  Thank God it was at the
    super-saver cinema.
    
    Don't waste your money on it.  
    
    
    -steve
52.1364COSME3::HEDLEYCLager LoutMon Sep 25 1995 12:015
Watched `While You Were Sleeping' on friday (okay, it might seem to
be a bit gurlie for the likes of me, but I had my reasons)  Not a
bad film as these romancy things go.

Chris.
52.1365CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenMon Sep 25 1995 13:513
    Finally rented Pulp Fiction last week.  Thought it was pretty good. 
    Pretty funny in spots actually.  Glad I saw it on the little screen and
    not the large one though.  
52.1366wicked soundtrack!CHEFS::newpa1.new.dec.com::DGDon't dream it - be it.Mon Sep 25 1995 15:005
re: Pulp Fiction
 If you can, get it in "Wide-Screen" or "Letterbox" format.
Also, get the sound wired through your hi-fi and pump up that volume!

Des G.
52.1367POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Mon Sep 25 1995 15:042
    Obviously some very important things, off to the side and so on, are
    lost on the formatted for TV version.
52.1368POWDML::HANGGELIPetite Chambre des MauditesMon Sep 25 1995 17:514
    
    <-- are they ever!
    
    
52.1369Talk hardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnMon Sep 25 1995 23:432
    hedley ye poof ! you big girlie ! I bet your woman's got you right
    under the thumb ! I'd check for bald spots mate.
52.1370COSME3::HEDLEYCLager LoutTue Sep 26 1995 13:284
Ah, bugger off yer git, just 'coz you're too young to get into pubs!  And
my receding hairline has nothing to do with it...

Chris.
52.1371Talk HardSNOFS1::DAVISMHappy Harry Hard OnWed Sep 27 1995 01:471
    <-- oh dear... poort boy's right under by the sounds of things !
52.1372MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Sep 27 1995 02:045
Good movies seen for the first time in the last few days -

	Pacific Heights
	Shawshank Redemption

52.1373POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Wed Sep 27 1995 02:061
    Bet you'll never buy rental property now. 8^)
52.1374POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwWed Sep 27 1995 02:149
    
    I got...er, received, _Seven Brides for Seven Brothers_ for my birthday,
    and I've watched it twice already 8^).
    
    Boy, what a great movie.  They surely knew how to make movies back in
    The Good Old Days.  Fun, and entertaining, and clean without sex and
    swearing and violence.
    
    Jeez, I'm starting to sound like Steve Leech 8^).
52.1375POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Wed Sep 27 1995 02:151
    Any funny parts in it?
52.1376POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwWed Sep 27 1995 02:257
    
    Oh yeah, there's this great scene where Millie is teaching the brothers
    how to court women, and they all gather around and ask her questions,
    and one asks, what about...um...now why can't I remember what he asks
    about?
    
    What about...
52.1377POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Wed Sep 27 1995 02:271
    pettin' and sofa settin' ?
52.1379SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Wed Sep 27 1995 12:543
    
    You two are pistols.... 
    
52.1380POWDML::POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Wed Sep 27 1995 13:248
              eh?
	      /
	  oO)-.
	 /__  _\       
	 \  \(  |      
	  \__|\ {                                             
	  '  '--'   
52.1378POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwWed Sep 27 1995 13:289
    
    Omigawd, yes!  YES!  Gabriel says, "What about pettin'?  And sofa settin'?"
    
    
    For goodness sake, how DID you know that.
    
    
    
    
52.1381POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwWed Sep 27 1995 13:2911
    
                               moo?
                               /
                          (__)
                          (oo)
                   /-------\/ 
                  / |     ||  
                 *  ||W---||  
                    ~~    ~~  

    
52.1382MPGS::MARKEYWorld Wide EpiphanyWed Sep 27 1995 13:5311
    
                               poo?
                 *        (__) /
                  \       (oo)
                   \-------\/ 
                  * |     ||  
                 *  ||W---||  
                **  ~~    ~~  

    
    
52.1383SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIBeen complimented by a toady lately?Wed Sep 27 1995 15:456
    
    
    <-------
    
    You went to The Big E too???
    
52.1384POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwWed Sep 27 1995 15:524
    
    Beverly?
    
    
52.1385POWDML::POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Wed Sep 27 1995 16:011
    {{{thud}}}
52.1386CSOA1::LEECHDia do bheatha.Wed Sep 27 1995 16:071
    I'm experiencing deja-moo...
52.1387HUMANE::KAOFS::J_COLLINSWed Sep 27 1995 17:515
    
    I been seein' previews for this new movie `Assassins'.
    
    Is this a remake of `The Mechanic'?
    
52.1388Failure is NOT an option.CHEFS::newpa1.new.dec.com::DGDon't dream it - be it.Thu Sep 28 1995 09:5119
 Saw Apollo 13 last night.

 Enjoyed it.  Great soundtrack, Good fx. Not too technical. Lots of human interest 
(scenes showing how the families coped).

 Loved Jim Lovell's old mother (Blanche) played by (I think) Jean Speegle Howard (any 
relation to the director?).  Her best line was (when asked by the press about their 
chances of getting back) :-
 "If they could get a washing machine to fly, my Jimmy can land it".

 I'd thought that knowing the story quite well, I'd not enjoy the film, but I did. Of course, 
there are plenty of people too young to remember the actual event (yikes, I'm getting 
old!).

 I thought they could have portrayed Ground Control a little more panicky (like how it 
was). I.E. not knowing what the h*ll was going on, and almost losing it altogether. Guess 
NASA tried hard to put their own spin on it.

Des G.
52.1389.1388 reformatted to be readableROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150kts is TOO slow!Thu Sep 28 1995 12:0825
 <<< Note 52.1388 by CHEFS::newpa1.new.dec.com::DG "Don't dream it - be it." >>>
                         -< Failure is NOT an option. >-

 Saw Apollo 13 last night.

    Enjoyed it.  Great soundtrack, Good fx. Not too technical. Lots of
    human interest  (scenes showing how the families coped).

    Loved Jim Lovell's old mother (Blanche) played by (I think) Jean
    Speegle Howard (any  relation to the director?).  Her best line was
    (when asked by the press about their  chances of getting back) :- "If
    they could get a washing machine to fly, my Jimmy can land it".

    I'd thought that knowing the story quite well, I'd not enjoy the film,
    but I did. Of course,  there are plenty of people too young to remember
    the actual event (yikes, I'm getting  old!).

    I thought they could have portrayed Ground Control a little more
    panicky (like how it  was). I.E. not knowing what the h*ll was going
    on, and almost losing it altogether. Guess  NASA tried hard to put
    their own spin on it.

Des G.

    
52.1390BROKE::PARTSThu Sep 28 1995 13:018
    
    
    not to sound snotty but i think the documentary "Apollo 13 - To
    the Edge and Back" by PBS was far more interesting.  for one thing
    jim lovell is a great story teller.  secondly the documentary gave
    more depth to explaining the technical hurdles that needed to be
    overcome in order to get the men back alive.
     
52.1391wass PBS?NEWSRV::newpa1.new.dec.com::DGDon't dream it - be it.Thu Sep 28 1995 15:2411
 Did Jim Lovell write a book on the story?
 I live in the UK so don't have access to PBS.
 If so, then I'll put it on my reading list.
 Although I accept the film could not go into very technical details,
 and remain popular, I'd love to read more background,

BTW - check out YAHOO on the Web. Found a site with film reviews.

 Des G.

 P.S. Sorry about the formatting in .-2 (damn these proportional fonts!)
52.1392SMURF::WALTERSThu Sep 28 1995 15:284
    
    PBS (Public Broadcasting Service?) in th US produces a program called
    Nova which shares material with the BBC Horizon program.  I wouldn't be
    surprised if it turns up on Horizon one day.  Call Auntie Beeb and ask.
52.1393TROOA::COLLINSWave like a flag...Thu Sep 28 1995 15:309
    
    .1391:
    
    Jim Lovell did co-write a book on the mission; I can't recall the
    title (or the co-author) offhand.
    
    Should be in the `space' or `science' section at W.H. Smith.
    
    
52.1394BSS::S_CONLONA Season of Carnelians...Thu Sep 28 1995 15:3011
    The movie "Apollo 13" was based on Jim Lovell's book (which is now
    being sold as "Apollo 13", although it was originally called something
    like "Moon Lost" or the "Lost Moon" or something.)
    
    I read the book around the time I saw the movie - it goes into a lot
    more detail about how Jim Lovell got to be an astronaut (as well as
    his first trip around the moon, which was a huge success since going
    around the moon was the goal of that trip.)
    
    The book also explained the cause of the explosion in great detail.
    It was a combination of things.
52.1395CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Thu Sep 28 1995 15:3211


 I can't recall the name of the book, either, but it has been reissued as
 "apollo 13".  I've got it at home, just haven't had time to read it.





 Jim
52.1396TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisit's time to trashercise!Thu Sep 28 1995 15:332
I think Jim Lovell co-wrote a book called "The Lost Moon" which I
believe has been re-released in paperback as "Apollo 13"
52.1397Hey! OUCH!TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisit's time to trashercise!Thu Sep 28 1995 15:341
Major notes crash!!!
52.1398CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend will you be ready?Thu Sep 28 1995 15:405



((Jim shaking head, dusting self off))
52.1399BUSY::SLABOUNTYAct like you own the companyThu Sep 28 1995 15:416
    
    	I'm still trying to figure out how it took Chris 3 minutes to
    	construct reply 1396.
    
    	8^)
    
52.1400A notes fender bender.BSS::S_CONLONA Season of Carnelians...Thu Sep 28 1995 15:423
    RE: major notes crash
    
    Hey, doesn't anyone around here believe in using turn signals or what? :/
52.1401TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisit's time to trashercise!Thu Sep 28 1995 17:4810
        I'm still trying to figure out how it took Chris 3 minutes to
        construct reply 1396.
    
        8^)


Well... I thought I'd wait until I read a few responses that sounded
right and then construct my own response (pretending that I hadn't
seen the others) and enter it, hoping that my intelligence would
shine for all to see! ;-)
52.1402MPGS::MARKEYRoger the RogererThu Sep 28 1995 17:505
    
    Wait a minute! Didn't Jim Lovell write a book with "Moon"
    in the title long before the Apollo 13 movie? :-)
    
    -b
52.1403CSC32::J_OPPELTWanna see my scar?Thu Sep 28 1995 20:235
    	I saw "A River Runs Through It".  
    
    	I couldn't understand the significance of all the bones in
    	Paul's right hand getting broken.  I'm sure my high school
    	English teacher would have known...
52.1404Just need the T-shirt, for the set.NEWSRV::newpa1.new.dec.com::DGDon't dream it - be it.Fri Sep 29 1995 14:0411
 Just got the book "Apollo 13" by Jim Lovell & Jeffrey Kluger from my local
 WHSMITH this lunch-time.  And, yes, it was previously published (in 1994) under
 the title "Lost Moon: The Perilous Voyage of Apollo 13" by Houghton Mifflin Co.
 Thanks for the pointers.

 Looking forward to reading it.

Des G.

 Wonder why it was only first published in 1994?

52.1405the lousy side of humanitySWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Oct 02 1995 17:2013
    
    heard so much about "Seven, saw it yesterday at the matinee.Theater
    was packed.
    
    yep, eveybody walking out by the end, looked stunned, and a bit
    speechless. 
    
    the ending.....that's the real kicker, right in the gut.
    
    Dave
    
    
    
52.1406POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Mon Oct 02 1995 17:281
    So, you liked the movie? Is it thought provoking?
52.1407.....SWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Oct 02 1995 17:4117
    
    I liked the movie, but the subject matter is very dark and depressing.
    As as film it has a real atmosphere that fits it well. The acting is
    good and characters very real. 
    
    The film doesn't shy away form the horror and gruesome nature of 
    serial killing victims. Very gritty, and void of any real 
    optimistic viewpoint, since that get dashed all to hell.
    
    You many want to rent a Disney flick after seeing this one.
    
    Dave
    
    
    
    
    
52.1409POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwMon Oct 02 1995 18:519
    
    I watched "A Tree Grows In Brooklyn" on AMC this Sunday morning.  I
    read the book {mumble} years ago.  The movie was enjoyable...makes me 
    want to read the book again.
    
    No naked breasts, no sex, no violence, no objectionable language.
    
    
    
52.1410BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 02 1995 19:171
<---and they call it a movie??????
52.1411easy on the eyes and mindSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Oct 02 1995 19:277
    
    <-----yes, not a reflection of our corrupt world at all.must be some 
              bygone era. where sex was taboo and breasts were only a
              part of a chicken.
    
    
   
52.1412POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwMon Oct 02 1995 19:469
    
    Well, the movie did handle some touchy subjects, as anyone who has seen
    it or read the book will remember - poverty, alcoholism, unemployment,
    death...
    
    But there was nothing gratuitous or titillating or whatever about it. 
    It was a nice movie.  I liked it.
    
    Classics are the way to go.
52.1413BSS::S_CONLONA Season of Carnelians...Mon Oct 02 1995 21:496
    Didn't the book ("A Tree Grows in Brooklyn") have a funny episode
    about breasts in it, though?
    
    The little boy was 4 or 5 years old and still breast-feeding, I thought,
    so the mother drew a scary face on her breast to get him to stop, didn't 
    she?  (Or maybe I'm thinking of another book.)
52.1414AIMHI::MARTINactually Rob Cashmon, NHPM::CASHMONTue Oct 03 1995 08:3024
    
    "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn" is a really great movie, in that sappy
    tear-jerker "I Remember Mama" kind of way.  They don't make those
    kind of melodramas anymore, and it's a shame.
    
    One moment in that movie that kind of hit me was the part where the
    daughter, after her father's death, goes into the barber shop to 
    collect his shaving mug.  The barber knew her father very well, and
    on his wall you see the racks of shaving mugs, each inscribed with
    its owner's name, who he presumably also knows well.  That society
    was so different from today's faceless, anonymous society, where you
    get your money from an ATM, and your hair cut at a store that belongs
    to a nationwide chain, and most people don't know their neighbors, and
    people are afraid to say hello to each other on the street.  Sometime,
    somewhere along the way, we really lost something from our society.
    
    For some reason, the little boy in that movie, who didn't want to 
    read "Troilus and Cressida," reminds me of Dan Killoran.  I have no
    idea why...
    
    
    
    Rob
    
52.1415SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Tue Oct 03 1995 15:2910
    Bought the THX-remastered Star Wars trilogy over the w/e.  Sure, it's
    hokey, sure it's dated.  But the remastering is magnificent - sat back,
    turned up the volume, and enjoyed some of the best WWII dogfights ever
    filmed.  No gratuitous sex, though, so these things must not be real
    movies.
    
    There's a teaser for the whole trilogy at the beginning of each tape -
    it starts, I think, with the jettisoning from the Rebel ship of C-3PO
    and R2-D2 in their escape pod.  BANG!  My wife jumped a foot at the
    noise.
52.1416CNTROL::JENNISONRevive us, Oh LordTue Oct 03 1995 15:374
    
    	I have never seen any of the movies in the Star Wars trilogy.
    
    
52.1417BUSY::SLABOUNTYA swift kick in the butt - $1Tue Oct 03 1995 15:479
    
    	Princess Lea wears a very revealing dress in 2 or 3, so you
    	might be offended by it.
    
    	8^)
    
    	And for all the guys out there, she looks darn good in it,
    	too.
    
52.1418CSLALL::HENDERSONBut what are they among so many?Tue Oct 03 1995 15:5110


 I'm going to pick that set up one o' these days.  I'll never forget my
 first viewing of Star Wars when it was in the theatres :-/




 Jim
52.1419CSOA1::LEECHDia do bheatha.Tue Oct 03 1995 16:275
    They have the set on sale here for $34.95, which isn't too bad (isn't
    real cheap, either).  I'm tempted to pick them up, now. 
    
    Thanks for the review, Dick.  (and btw, they aren't dated, they are
    classics  8^) )
52.1420TROOA::COLLINSCruel, and UnusualTue Oct 03 1995 16:307
    
    "Governor Tarkin, I should have expected to find you holding Vader's
    leash.  I thought I recognized your foul stench when I was brought
    onboard."
    
    I was 13, and in love with Princess Leia.
    
52.1421GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA fighting for our RIGHTSTue Oct 03 1995 16:314
    
    RE: .1417  Feel better, Sean?
    
    
52.1422BUSY::SLABOUNTYA swift kick in the butt - $1Tue Oct 03 1995 16:363
    
    	Feel better than what?
    
52.1423OUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallTue Oct 03 1995 18:456
    I have the trilogy made in the old Dolby days.  It amazes me that
    Hollywood hasn't caught on yet to the fact that all the most popular
    movies of all-time are void of sex.  Add the popularity of the X-Files
    to TV evidence.  Maybe someday Hollywood will figure it out.
    
    Princess Leia was a cokehead. ;-)
52.1424POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Tue Oct 03 1995 18:491
    E.T. was naked.
52.1425CNTROL::JENNISONRevive us, Oh LordTue Oct 03 1995 18:567
    
    	I have seen E.T.
    
    	Why would one want to "own" the Star Wars trilogy ?
    
    	Why not just rent as needed ?
    
52.1426POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Tue Oct 03 1995 18:581
    Why own a carpet cleaner when you can just rent one as needed?
52.1427CNTROL::JENNISONRevive us, Oh LordTue Oct 03 1995 19:045
    
    	Oh, do you watch Star Wars as often as you vacuum ?
    
    Karen
    
52.1428POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Tue Oct 03 1995 19:0810
    No, but some might.
    
    I said carpet cleaner not vacuum cleaner.
    
    
    I bought "Blade Runner" for 9.99. I've watched it probably 10 times
    now. I'd say that was worth it.
    
    If I could by the new Stars Wars set for under 40 bucks, I think I'd
    buy it.
52.1429MPGS::MARKEYManly yes, but I like it tooTue Oct 03 1995 19:1310
    
    For something that was so "state-of-the-art", the Star Wars
    films look sadly anachronistic. The weaknesses in the writing,
    acting and directing show through loud and clear now that
    we've been treated to endless PBS and A&E specials on blue
    screening and special effects models. That's _all_ there
    was... well, that and the first ever case of an actress
    with Danish pastry glued to her head. Star Wars is limp.

    -b                
52.1430TROOA::COLLINSCruel, and UnusualTue Oct 03 1995 19:213
    
    SHADDAP!  Who axed ya?
    
52.1431CSLALL::HENDERSONBut what are they among so many?Tue Oct 03 1995 19:2110

 I'll watch Star Wars over some of the other stuff that comes out of
 Hollywood these days, thank you very much.





Jim
52.1432POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Tue Oct 03 1995 19:271
    I'll vacuum sometimes even though I know I'm missing some shows.
52.1433MPGS::MARKEYManly yes, but I like it tooTue Oct 03 1995 19:274
    
    Er, did I ever tell you why I think Star Trek sucks... :-) :-) :-)
    
    -b
52.1434TROOA::COLLINSCruel, and UnusualTue Oct 03 1995 19:3613
    
    Sure, `Star Wars' looks limp now, compared to `T2' or `Jurassic Park'.
    
    We are in a new age of special effects.
    
    But `Star Wars' brought us here.  Apart from the excellent model, set,
    and makeup work, it was (to the best of my knowledge) one of the first 
    (if not *the* first) movies to make extensive use of computers to control
    light and motion, resulting in a high new level of action realism.
    
    Sure, hokey story and goofy characterization.  Still, it was a ride
    and a half at the time.
    
52.1435CSOA1::LEECHDia do bheatha.Tue Oct 03 1995 19:371
    <--- yup.
52.1436POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Tue Oct 03 1995 19:382
    In my opinion, those movies still stack up to the likes of T2 or
    Jurassic Park for entertainment value.
52.1437MPGS::MARKEYManly yes, but I like it tooTue Oct 03 1995 19:398
    
    Ah, but !Joan, that's the thing... AT THE TIME... That's what
    anachronistic means... it's not timeless. It's identifiable
    with an era and only that era. When you're done being impressed
    with the special effects -- which took exactly two screenings
    for me -- the other weaknesses become apparent.
    
    -b
52.1438POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Tue Oct 03 1995 19:431
    Well, in Jedi, the bike scene in the forest still blows me away.
52.1439TROOA::COLLINSCruel, and UnusualTue Oct 03 1995 19:4915
 
    .1437:
       
    SHADDAP!!!  Besides, it's for much the same reason I'm supposed to 
    be impressed with `Birth Of A Nation' or `Metropolis', even today.
    
    And I am.  Well, `Metropolis', anyway.
    
    Anachronistic, shanachronistic.  `Star Wars' branded the heart of an
    impressionable young teen, and I'll not stand for any badmouthing.
    
    Tread lightly on my sacred ground!!!
    
    :^)   
       
52.1440PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Oct 03 1995 19:523
  .1439  "what can you do when you're branded...
	  and you know you're a teen?"
52.1441POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Tue Oct 03 1995 19:531
    Ask the slaves in north africa.
52.1442MPGS::MARKEYManly yes, but I like it tooTue Oct 03 1995 20:205
    
    !Joan, didncha know that today is my day to dump on people's
    icons? I even have it in my "things to doo" list... :-) :-)
    
    -b
52.1443TROOA::COLLINSCruel, and UnusualTue Oct 03 1995 20:225
    
    .1442:
    
    Yeah...well...take it to the Jerry Garcia topic!
    
52.1444MPGS::MARKEYManly yes, but I like it tooTue Oct 03 1995 20:234
    
    Was Gerry Garcia in Star Wars? Wasn't he "Jabba the Hutt"? :-)
    
    -b
52.1445BUSY::SLABOUNTYA swift kick in the butt - $1Tue Oct 03 1995 20:353
    
    	I didn't like "Star Trek" either.
    
52.1446Sci-Fi, I love it, yes I do, but:-)TROOA::TEMPLETONBy the pricking of my thumbsWed Oct 04 1995 00:5114
    That's the trouble with you kids. 
    
    You're all jaded. 
    
    Too much, too fast.
    
    
    I still get blown away by Wells' photography in Citizen Kane.
    
    But then, I am probably the only one in this note that remembers that
    movie.   
    
    
    joan
52.1447Oh, and I love Star Wars too!AIMHI::MARTINactually Rob Cashmon, NHPM::CASHMONWed Oct 04 1995 05:5715
    
    Xanadu, palatial home of Charles Foster Kane.
    
    Cost:  no man can say.
    
    Actually, it was amazing how much more I got out of Citizen Kane
    after reading about William Randolph Hearst and San Simeon.  Sigh...
    one of these days I'm going to make it out that way...
    
    One of these days...
    
    
    
    Rob
    
52.1448DEVLPR::DKILLORANUneasy RiderWed Oct 04 1995 11:2228
    
    re:.1423

    > Princess Leia was a cokehead. ;-)

    Oh the places I could take that statement..... ;->  Better not though,
    Ms Deb might smaq me again... :-)

    re:.1429

    > ...well, that and the first ever case of an actress
    > with Danish pastry glued to her head. Star Wars is limp.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHA...... :-))))

    re:.1446

    > I still get blown away by Wells' photography in Citizen Kane.
    > 
    > But then, I am probably the only one in this note that remembers that
    > movie.   

    Well, maybe you're not as old as you claim.... :-)
    or maybe I'm older than I seem.... :-)

    I thought the photography in Citizen Kane was phenomenally well done!


52.1449SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Wed Oct 04 1995 15:463
    .1428
    
    I paid $29.95 US at Lechmere.
52.1450But the sequels were patent commercialism.SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Wed Oct 04 1995 15:5421
    .1429
    
    So Star Wars is limp.  That was then, and this is now.
    
    When the first Star Wars film was released in 1977, it was absolutely
    cutting-edge in terms of SPFX.  2001: A Space Odyssey, a decade
    earlier, had invented fewer than 30 completely new effects; Star Wars
    inventsd 360 new effects, including the PDP-11-controlled DykstraFlex
    camera system that produced the realistic-looking flyby action.  Star
    Wars was the first space opera that ever got explosions right, i.e.,
    with debris radiating in all directions instead of falling visibly back
    to the earth.  They did that by the simple, but previously
    undiscovered, technique of shooting with the camera pointed straight
    upward.
    
    Star Wars told a timeworn fairytale story, actually No. 301 in the
    Harvard Book of Plots, but it told it in a way that grabbed the
    attention of hundreds of millions as never before.  It was flashy, it
    was fast, it was immediate and personal.  Never mind the bulkie rolls
    Leia wore on the sides of her head, never mind the '70s unkempt look of
    the boys, it was good moviemaking, and it remains a classic.
52.1451SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Wed Oct 04 1995 15:588
    .1446
    
    > only one
    
    Nope.  One of the best films ever made, hands down better than either
    T2 or JP.  So their SPFX were better, Citizen Kane was a better story,
    and it was told more convincingly.  But then I like Alexander Nevsky,
    too.
52.1452POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwThu Oct 05 1995 15:2627
    
"The Field of the Dead" from _Alexander Nevsky_ by Sergei Prokofiev.
    
Ya poidu po polyu byelomu,         	I shall go over the white field,
polyechu po polyu smyertnomu.		I shall fly over the deadly field.
Poishchu ya slavnykh sokolov,		I shall seek the glorious falcons,
zhenikov moikh, dobrykh molodtsyev.	my bridegrooms, the sturdy young men.

Kto lyezhit, myechami porublyennyi,	One lies hacked by swords,
kto lyezhit, stryeloyu poranyennyi.	one lies wounded by the arrow.
Napoili oni krov'yu aloyu		With their crimson blood they have
					 watered
zyeminyu chestnuyu, zyemiyu russkuyu.	the honest soil, the Russian land.

Kto pogib za Rus' smyert'yu dobroyu,	Whoever died a good death for Russia
potseluyu togo v'oghi myertvye,		I shall kiss upon his dead eyes,
a tomu molodtsu, shto ostalsya zhit',	and to that young man who remained
					 alive,
budu vyernoi zhenoi, miloi tadoyu.	I shall be a faithful wife, a loving
					 spouse.

Nye voz'mu v muzh'ya krasivovo;		I shall not marry a handsome man;
krasota zyemnaya konchayetsya.		earthly beauty comes to an end.
A poidu ya za khrabrovo.		But I shall wed a brave man.
Otzovityesya, yasnyi sokolyi!		Cry out in answer, bright falcons!
    
    
52.1453BUSY::SLABOUNTYA swift kick in the butt - $1Thu Oct 05 1995 15:474
    
    	If I ever sit down to watch that one, looks like I should bring
    	lots of coffee.
    
52.1454POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwThu Oct 05 1995 15:565
    
    Oh no, oh no.  It's VERY exciting.  "The Battle On Ice" is practically
    better than sex.
    
    
52.1455VAIL::MUTHI drank WHAT? - SocratesThu Oct 05 1995 16:044
   What about the poor horse that slips & falls on the ice?

   Bill
52.1456BUSY::SLABOUNTYA swift kick in the butt - $1Thu Oct 05 1995 16:243
    
    	"No animals were injured in the filming of this movie."
    
52.1457KDCA01::CDCUP_GREENEFri Oct 06 1995 10:347
    Basketball Diaries.
    Good flick for any junkie that
    wants to be staight. Good flick for anyone.
    True Stories are always the best movies. (IMO)
    
    
    Chris
52.1458TROOA::COLLINSComputer Room of the DamnedFri Oct 06 1995 11:3915
    
    Living in downtown Toronto, one is constantly encountering film shoots.
    They're everywhere, blocking the streets and sidewalks, bullying the
    citizenry, laying cables, lighting up the night.
    
    Toronto is a popular site for filming, as it can pass for any large
    American city, and the exchange rate helps keep the costs down.
    
    This week they just started the latest David Cronenberg film, which is
    to be an adaptation of the J.G. Ballard novel, `Crash', starring Holly
    Hunter and James Spader.
    
    Interesting.  It could go either way, but I enjoyed the novel, so I'm
    looking forward to it (a bit, anyway).
     
52.1459ACIS01::BATTISHave you hugged a cactus today?Mon Oct 09 1995 19:2810
    
    Assasins!!
    
    Good flick, Stallone and Banderas were great. Julieann Moore was ok,
    but could have been better. Lots of action, Stallone was restrained in
    this, similar to the Specialist, but better overall in my opinion.
    
    Well worth seeing on the big screen.
    
    Mark
52.1460you dawg!WAHOO::LEVESQUEsunlight held together by waterTue Oct 10 1995 11:143
    >Julieann Moore was ok, but could have been better. 
    
    Xlation: she could have bared her flesh.
52.1461ACIS02::BATTISHave you hugged a cactus today?Tue Oct 10 1995 12:062
    
    <-----  or acted better. hth
52.1462good dirty fun :-}TIS::HAMBURGERREMEMBER NOVEMBER: FREEDOM COUNTSTue Oct 10 1995 14:477
Tank Girl. The "Barbarella" of 1995 :-} :-}

bizare, strange, fun, funny, wierd, pick 4 or 5. :-} :-}

I liked it.

52.1464Hideaway should stay hidden awayCONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenMon Oct 16 1995 14:247
    Watched Hideaway last night, Jeff Goldblum and some other folks.  The
    book was way more betterer IMO.  The story line was changed quite a 
    bit and all of the peripheral stuff that helped make the story 
    interesting was omitted.  Don't waste the time unless you are
    particularly fond of Jeff Goldblum and even then think twice.
    
    Brian
52.1465BUSY::SLABOUNTYI'M SHOUTING: I DON'T KNOW WHY!!Mon Oct 16 1995 14:305
    
    	Who cares about Jeff ... who played his wife?
    
    	If she's reasonably boinkable, I'll rent it.
    
52.1466BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 16 1995 14:576
| <<< Note 52.1465 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "I'M SHOUTING: I DON'T KNOW WHY!!" >>>


| If she's reasonably boinkable, I'll rent it.

	You damn heterosexual ambassador!
52.1467BUSY::SLABOUNTYI'll kiss the dirt and walk awayMon Oct 16 1995 15:184
    
    	Yeah, there I go, flaunting my heterosexuality for all to see
    	again.
    
52.1468WAHOO::LEVESQUEsunlight held together by waterMon Oct 16 1995 15:214
    do you have to be so "in your face" about it? Can't you just be what
    you are without rubbing our noses in it?
    
     I'm disgusted.
52.1469BUSY::SLABOUNTYI'll kiss the dirt and walk awayMon Oct 16 1995 15:226
    
    	I can't help what I am.
    
    	My father is a heterosexual, my sisters are both heterosexual,
    	and darn it, I'll be damned if I'm going to hide it any longer.
    
52.1470POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Mon Oct 16 1995 15:241
    Oh no, you keep your pants up, we don't want to see it.
52.1471BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 16 1995 15:361
<----too funny!!!!!
52.1472SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideMon Oct 16 1995 15:544
        Some of my best friends are Thespians; I'm not biased!
            

52.1473POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of OhOhOh/OwOwOwMon Oct 16 1995 15:584
    
    I admit to being a thespian.
    
    
52.1474POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Mon Oct 16 1995 16:031
    I admit to being a thespianophile.
52.1475GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERNRA fighting for our RIGHTSMon Oct 16 1995 16:132
    
    RE: .1472, does that make you a radial?
52.1476BUSY::SLABOUNTYI'm just a little crazy.Mon Oct 16 1995 16:163
    
    	Eesh, what a tired joke.
    
52.1477POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Mon Oct 16 1995 16:181
    It was a good year though.
52.1478CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenMon Oct 16 1995 17:351
    Quick, someone give them a rim shot.
52.1479POLAR::RICHARDSONPettin' &amp; Sofa Settin'Mon Oct 16 1995 17:431
    Bluuurgh!
52.1480BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Oct 16 1995 18:055
| <<< Note 52.1478 by CONSLT::MCBRIDE "Reformatted to fit your screen" >>>

| Quick, someone give them a rim shot.

	even *I* don't go for those....
52.1481UHF - rented it last night ...BUSY::SLABOUNTYAct like you own the companyTue Oct 24 1995 12:3621
    
    	Weird Al Yankovic, Michael Richards, Victoria Jackson, Kevin
    	McCarthy, Billy Barty, Gette Watanabe, Dr. Demento, Belinda
    	Bauer, Anthony Geary.
    
    	Michael Richards is now Kramer on "Seinfeld", Anthony Geary is
    	[or was ... haven't watched this show in over 10 years] Luke
    	on "General Hospital", and Belinda Bauer was the dark-haired
    	evil doctor in "Robocop II".
    
    	Weird Al plays Norman, a guy who just can't seem to hold onto
    	a job for any length of time.  So his aunt suggests that his
    	uncle, who has just won a UHF station in a poker game, let him
    	manage it.  The station is hurting, so he can't do too bad.
    
    	And the movie basically consists of promos for a bunch of new
    	shows [action/adventure/game] that Norman creates.
    
    	And of course there's a sub-plot ... a rival network station
    	doesn't like the competition and wants to buy them out.
    
52.1482CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Tue Oct 24 1995 12:444


 so, what was the name of the movie?
52.1483GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedTue Oct 24 1995 12:468
    
    
    The name was "it", can't you read muppetman?
    
    
    I think I'll rent Tank Girl tonight in memory of Amos.
    
    Mike
52.1484BUSY::SLABOUNTYAct like you own the companyTue Oct 24 1995 12:473
    
    	Oops.  I modified the title.  8^)
    
52.1485BUSY::SLABOUNTYAct like you own the companyTue Oct 24 1995 12:483
    
    	"Tank Girl"?  How about "Commando"?
    
52.1486GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedTue Oct 24 1995 12:4914
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Tank Girl. The "Barbarella" of 1995 :-} :-}

bizare, strange, fun, funny, wierd, pick 4 or 5. :-} :-}

I liked it.

52.1487TROOA::COLLINSCyberian Party HamsterWed Oct 25 1995 12:579
    
    I watched `The Wizard Of Oz' last night.
    
    If I
    Were a King
    Of the Fore-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-st!
    
    Excellent movie; many thanks to Lucky Jack (and Di).
    
52.1488PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Oct 25 1995 12:593
	what puts the ape in apricot?  courage.

52.1489?PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftWed Oct 25 1995 13:064
    Oddly enough, "Tank Girl" was on one of those pay-per-view channels
    last night, for free.  Probably a mistake, right?
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1490TROOA::COLLINSCyberian Party HamsterWed Oct 25 1995 13:087
    
    .1489
    
    Wierd.  Did they edit out the line: "It's like having sex for the 
    first time; you just have to lie back and say `Dad, are you sure 
    this is okay?'"
    
52.1491Are you surprised I passed on "Tank Girl"?PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftWed Oct 25 1995 13:104
    
    Hey, Atlanta/Cleveland was on last night.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1492CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenWed Oct 25 1995 13:171
    Atlanta/Cleveland?  I though football was only on Sunday and Monday?
52.1493BUSY::SLABOUNTYErotic NightmaresWed Oct 25 1995 13:415
    
    	Not football, baseball.
    
    	The GOOD teams that play out of Cleveland/Atlanta.
    
52.1494CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenWed Oct 25 1995 13:512
    Baseball?  Isn't that over yet or are they now doing post season
    exhibition games?  
52.1495Play TZ theme....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftWed Oct 25 1995 16:3713
|I though football was only on Sunday and Monday?
 
    NFL is now on Sunday afternoon, Sunday Night, Monday Night and
    Thursday Night.  Later this season, add Saturday afternoon.  I
    know people who won't miss an NFL game.  How long before Tuesday
    Night, Wednesday Night, Friday Night and Saturday Night NFL games
    join the list?
    
    No matter.  "Tank Girl" I expect was unedited.  It was no doubt *NOT*
    supposed to be free, but it was.  Unscrambled for every tyke in town
    who wasn't watching the World Series to find.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.1496Captain NukeDYPSS1::COGHILLSteve Coghill, Luke 14:28Thu Oct 26 1995 14:245
   I rented "Star Quest" last night (don't bother).  It had a trailer in
   it for "Captain Nuke, and the Bomb Boys."  Stars Martin Sheen, Joe
   Piscopo, Rod Steiger, Kate Mulligrew (sp?).
   
   Has anyone seen this?  Is it worth it?
52.1497WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Oct 26 1995 15:422
    my wife bought me Legends of the Fall as an anniversary gift. this
    made me very, very happy.
52.1498BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Oct 26 1995 15:483

	Anything with Brad Pitt in it would make me happy!
52.1499POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Oct 26 1995 17:462
    It's a sad movie though. If I was watching it during a bout of depression
    I would probably go take a bath with my toaster afterwards.
52.1500BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Oct 26 1995 17:511
movie snarf!
52.1501BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Oct 26 1995 17:537

	Glenn, do you have one of those shiney metal toasters, or one of those
white ones? Just remember, if you take a bath with it, Leslie will be the only 
personality you have left, cuz when the toaster hits the water...POOF!


52.1502CALLME::MR_TOPAZThu Oct 26 1995 19:173
       re .1501:
       
       Is that a new signature?
52.1503BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Oct 26 1995 19:323

	It could very well end up as one. :-)
52.1504LANDO::OLIVER_BFri Oct 27 1995 14:454
    so I watched Pulp Fiction last night.  so what's the 
    big deal?  it was okay, but it was nothing great.  i'm
    getting tired of sleaze, i guess.  and what's up with
    travolta?  he looked like a walrus in a suit.
52.1505GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedFri Oct 27 1995 14:4711
    
    
    Good Andy Rooney, Bonnie. :')
    
    
    I was planning on seeing this one with all the raving going on.  I'll
    still see it, but my expectations will be lower (although I don't
    usually listen to all the movie critics.
    
    
    Mike
52.1506LANDO::OLIVER_BFri Oct 27 1995 14:533
    i think what it is is this.  hollywood spews so much crap
    with impunity that when a semi-decent movie hits the street
    it's lauded as the best thing since (you fill in)...
52.1507MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterFri Oct 27 1995 14:5312
    
    I found Pulp Fiction interesting. First, I think Travolta's
    performance was good, as was... (er, Link from Mod Squad...
    damn, I hate it when that happens...) I also liked the direction,
    particularly the way the time-line worked in the movie. The way
    the story line looped back on itself, gave the viewer a feeling
    of omniscience, since in the final scene, one already knows
    the fate of Travolta...

    I thought the movie was cool. Oh well, I guess I'm sleazy... :-)

    -b
52.1508BUSY::SLABOUNTYDo you wanna bang heads with me?Fri Oct 27 1995 14:579
    
    	Picked up "Blue Thunder" and "Valley Girl" last night for $6
    	each at Caldor's.  Haven't seen 'em in awhile.
    
    	"Blue Thunder" was 1 of Daniel Stern's 1st movies, if not THE
    	1st.
    
    	And "Valley Girl" features the INCREDIBLE Deborah Foreman.
    
52.1509LANDO::OLIVER_BFri Oct 27 1995 15:043
    granted, the PF time line was cool and there were several
    morbidly funny scenes, and tarantino is clever...but i
    don't think he really has a lot to say.
52.1510PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Oct 27 1995 15:204
    >>tarantino is clever...but i
    >>don't think he really has a lot to say.

	i kinda like that about him. ;>  i love his stuff.
52.1511LANDO::OLIVER_BFri Oct 27 1995 15:3710
    .1510
    |i kinda like that about him. ;>  i love his stuff.
    
    Di, you mean you don't seek out the ultimate MEANING
    in all your cultural endeavors??? :-)
    
    tarantino's stuff sort of reminds me of the Twin Peaks
    guy's stuff (whose name I cannot recall at the momento).
    less spooky, but that same cuteness...
    
52.1512WAHOO::LEVESQUEbon marcher, as far as she can tellFri Oct 27 1995 16:001
    david lynch?
52.1513PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Oct 27 1995 16:125
   yes.  i have all of Twin Peaks on tape.  ;>
   Lynch's stuff is slightly more cruel and twisted than
   Tarantino's, methinks.  certainly more bizarre (e.g.
   Eraserhead).  there's a similarity though, for sure.
52.1514LANDO::OLIVER_BFri Oct 27 1995 18:031
    ooooh, di, sometimes i worry... :-)
52.1515WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Oct 30 1995 09:098
    i'll throw another thumbs up for Pulp Fiction (saw it Saturday). good
    movie, nice twists, nicely done. btw, Travolta h-a-d to gain something
    like 30lbs for the role (that's what's up).
    
    also watched Rob Roy. another entertaining story. Liam Neeson is fine
    actor. one of the best today, imho.
    
    
52.1516TROOA::COLLINSCyberian Party HamsterMon Oct 30 1995 11:414
    
    Saw `Seven' yesterday.  Hey, did you nutters know that the FBI is
    monitoring your library book-borrowing habits?   ;^)
    
52.1517David LynchLUDWIG::BARBIERIMon Oct 30 1995 17:216
      re: .1513
    
      The Elephant Man was directed by David Lynch.  I thought that
      was an excellent movie.
    
      Lynch is definitely 'out there'. 
52.1518MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterFri Nov 03 1995 16:1721
    
    Caught "While You Were Sleeping" last night... Sandra Bullock,
    Peter Gallagher... a nice little romantic comedy.

    Sandra Bullock plays Lucy, a single woman who works for the Chicago
    Transit Authority as a token collector. Each day, a handsome
    young man (Peter) comes through her booth, but he never even looks
    at her. She dreams of being with him, and fantasizes what
    she will say if they ever meet.

    On Christmas day, Peter is mugged and thrown onto the train tracks,
    and Lucy rushes to save him by rolling his unconscious body
    out of the path of an oncoming train. Lucy follows Peter to the
    hospital, where he remains in a coma for several days. Signals
    get crossed and Lucy ends up being introduced as Peter's fiance,
    even though they have never met. Familial pandemonium ensues.

    This is a nice film. Not quite on the "Sleepless in Seattle"
    plain, but worthy of rental.

    -b
52.1519BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't drink the (toilet) water.Fri Nov 03 1995 16:193
    
    	Wasn't that Bill Pullman?
    
52.1520MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterFri Nov 03 1995 16:274
    
    Bill Pullman played Peter Gallagher's brother...
    
    -b
52.1521WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Nov 06 1995 09:255
    my wife bought On The Beach. Anyone remember this one?
    
    great movie when it was made and is still entertaining.
    
    btw, Ava Gardner was definitely most boinkable in status.
52.1522DRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC; Reclaim the Name&amp;Glory!Mon Nov 06 1995 09:542
    Who played the USN subdriver in that 'un?  Cary Grant?   Good flick.
    
52.1523CALLME::MR_TOPAZMon Nov 06 1995 11:162
       On The Beach was the first and probably best of the doomsday
       movies.  Nevil Shute?
52.1524CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Mon Nov 06 1995 11:5712



 I  believe Mr.  Topaz is correct.





 Jim who read the book but never saw the movie.

52.1525DRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC; Reclaim the Name&amp;Glory!Mon Nov 06 1995 11:582
    Yup, he was the author...
    
52.1526WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Nov 06 1995 14:322
    Yes, Cary Grant, Fred Astaire (first serious role), Anthony Perkins
    and Ava Gardner.
52.1527LANDO::OLIVER_BMon Nov 06 1995 14:411
    ah, cary grant, a world-class hunk if ever there was one.
52.1528TROOA::COLLINSWorking for paper and iron...Mon Nov 06 1995 14:555
    
    I saw (and enjoyed) `The Usual Suspects' yesterday.
    
    Very, VERY well-written thriller.
    
52.1529PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 06 1995 15:272
  .1527  indeed.  charm cubed.
52.1530MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterMon Nov 06 1995 15:297
    
    RE: .1529

    Would you have felt the same way had he remained: "Archibald
    Leech"?

    -b
52.1531PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 06 1995 15:332
 .1530  sher.  a rose by any other name, etc. 
52.1532WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Nov 06 1995 15:381
    Sorry, that was Gregory Peck in On The Beach... big faux pas...
52.1533MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterMon Nov 06 1995 15:406
    
    Gregory Peckory!
    
    (great Frank Zappa tune...)
    
    -b
52.1534PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 06 1995 15:412
	Gregory Peck - ooh la la.  
52.1535LANDO::OLIVER_BMon Nov 06 1995 15:431
    Gregory, another tall drink of water ;-)
52.1536CALLME::MR_TOPAZMon Nov 06 1995 15:4720
       re .1528:
       
       Did you notice Yolanda Squatpump (or her name, at least) in the
       credits?
       
       ***************************************************************
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       **************       N   O   T   I   C   E       **************
       **************                                   **************
       ***************************************************************
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       ***************************************************************
       
       And I might not say this again.
       
       If you see 'The Usual Suspects', hang around the theatre (or
       wherever) until Yolanda's name passes by.  You might never see it
       again.
52.1537TROOA::COLLINSWorking for paper and iron...Mon Nov 06 1995 16:507
    
    .1536
    
    No, I did not notice Yolanda, although I rarely stay for the credits.
    
    What is "she" alleged to have contributed to the film?
    
52.1538CALLME::MR_TOPAZMon Nov 06 1995 16:594
       
       I have no idea.  I just looked up on the screen, and there was
       Yolanda Squatpump.  I was too transfixed to notice the affiliation.
       I was hoping someone else would see the movie and find out.
52.1539XEDON::JENSENWed Nov 08 1995 20:172
    Saw "The Shawshank Redemption" last night.  Wow!
    
52.1540PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Nov 08 1995 20:215
>>    Saw "The Shawshank Redemption" last night.  Wow!

      so you're kinda surprised that you saw it?    

52.1541XEDON::JENSENWed Nov 08 1995 20:292
    Hey! HEY!!! already.
    
52.1542ACIS04::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Nov 09 1995 11:503
    re: .1539
    
    It's a good flick, eh?
52.1543TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisbad spellers of the world - UNTIE!Thu Nov 09 1995 14:003
>>     It's a good flick, eh?
                          ^^^
You're really Canadian, aren't you?
52.1544ACIS04::LEECHDia do bheatha.Thu Nov 09 1995 14:251
    <-- Well, I did visit Canada once, many years ago.  8^)
52.1545TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisbad spellers UNTIE!Thu Nov 09 1995 14:271
and you haven't recovered yet eh?
52.1546Old hat for the USA?KERNEL::BARNARDPSpikeThu Nov 09 1995 17:318
    
    Saw "Nine Months" last week.....
    
    If your wife/SO is expecting a baby go and laugh at yourself, I mean
    it, the observations in the film are excellent.  Robin Williams as a
    Gynaecologist is excellent.  Lots of stars, good film, great ending.

    \_spike_/
52.1547MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterThu Nov 09 1995 17:314
    
    Hey, aren't you the guy... oh nevermind. :-)
    
    -b
52.1548SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIif u cn rd ths, u nd to gt a lyfThu Nov 09 1995 17:348
    
    re: .1546  "Nine Months" 
    
    Yo!! Any abortions or close calls where the mother's life is in
    danger..??  You know... so as to increase the "hysteria" factor??
    
    Inquiring minds and all...
    
52.1549No, we don't wear hats like thisNOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Nov 09 1995 17:353
                          +-< Old hat for the USA? >-
			  | 
    \_spike_/  <----------+
52.1550MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterFri Nov 10 1995 14:3418
    
    Last night's movie fare: Outbreak, with Dustin Hoffman and
    Donald Sutherland.
    
    Better than I expected. What I expected was another "Andromeda
    Strain", which was an OK but ultimately very boring movie.
    Viruses do not make particularly good plot points.
    
    However, as in Steven King's "The Stand", the virus took a
    back seat to the more interesting interaction of the various
    characters.
    
    No academy awards will be issued for this movie (unless they
    have a category for most interesting simulation of a non-nuclear
    explosion.) Still, a good film and more than worth the rental
    fee...
    
    -b
52.1551CALLME::MR_TOPAZFri Nov 10 1995 14:4815
       re .1550:
       
       You're entitled to your opinion exept in this case and any others
       where you err egregiously.
       
       The only value of this movie is as MST3K fodder (mudder?). 
       Hoffman should be given a 5-year penalty for his so-called acting
       in this stinker (his fault lies in taking a part that has no
       character, not even the slightest hint of one).
       
       It seems like Donald Sutherland hasn't done anything non-silly
       since "Eye of the Needle" -- he played his Evil Soldier part as if
       he were a Saturday am cartoon character.
       
       Feh.
52.1552MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterFri Nov 10 1995 15:0618
    
    Well. If I had paid to see it in a theatre I might agree with
    you.

    If I had been paying real close attention last night, I might
    also have agreed with you.

    Fact was, I was watching the movie with one eye and watching
    my laptop computer's screen with the other eye. And, it's probably
    worth noting, I'm blind in one eye... :-)

    Still, the movie was better than I expected. Far from great,
    but what I was expecting was what you described. What I got
    was a little better than that... enough so that I didn't
    mind the $2.95 I spent renting it. It was better than the
    last Star Trek movie... :-)

    -b
52.1553DRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC; Reclaim the Name&amp;Glory!Fri Nov 10 1995 16:202
    'xcuze me, but ain't it only the Pro-Lifers who err eggreligiously??
                                                           
52.1554SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Fri Nov 10 1995 18:433
    .1553
    
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! {gasp}
52.1555TROOA::BUTKOVICHruns with scissorsMon Nov 13 1995 00:093
    saw "Get Shorty" today - quite good and John Travolta continues to
    impress.  If you liked "The Player", you will likely enjoy this one as
    well.
52.1556SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Mon Nov 13 1995 15:243
    Saw "How to Make an American Quilt" Friday.  Lovely film.  Well acted,
    very warm feeling.  Juxtaposition of flashbacks into present-time was
    extremely well done, could have ruined the film if done poorly.
52.1557TROOA::COLLINSGood idea Oh Lord!Mon Nov 13 1995 15:303
    
    Any robots?  Aliens?  The Undead?
    
52.1558BUSY::SLABOUNTYDancin' on CoalsMon Nov 13 1995 15:315
    
    	And gore is a must as well.
    
    	Those knitting needles can be very dangerous if used improperly.
    
52.1559WAHOO::LEVESQUEbut I can't make you thinkMon Nov 13 1995 15:404
    What about flesh? Hmmm? Bonus points for any movie showing nekkid coeds
    getting offed while they fornicate.
    
    You mean this film doesn't pander to the LCD? Forget it, then.
52.1560SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Mon Nov 13 1995 15:402
    Knitting needles are not used in the making of a quilt, Shawn. 
    Scissors are, though, would that do?
52.1561MPGS::MARKEYFluffy nutterMon Nov 13 1995 15:427
    > What about flesh? Hmmm? Bonus points for any movie showing nekkid coeds
    > getting offed while they fornicate.
    
    Wow, a tape like that, a bug light and a case of Budweiser and
    life would be pretty much complete...
    
    -b
52.1562BUSY::SLABOUNTYDancin' on CoalsMon Nov 13 1995 15:5510
    
    	RE: Binder
    
    	Scissors are good, yes.
    
    
    	RE: Doc/Brian
    
    	Gotta love those "double impalement shots" from "Friday the 13th".
    
52.1563CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenTue Nov 14 1995 11:0710
    Has a chance to see several fillums whilst cruising at 39K feet.  One
    about ditzy high schoolers in Kaliph, worth forgetting, which I have
    done so already.  
    
    The Net.  I liked, sort of.  
    Apollo 13.  Was just okay as well.  Decent dramatization etc.  
    Judge Dredd.  Wretched, horrible, absolutely no redeeming value even as
    escapist fare.  
    
    Brian
52.1564"3 cheers for the White, Red and Blue"TROOA::trp584.tro.dec.com::SUMMERSHELLO UNITED CANADATue Nov 14 1995 11:2714
For any of you interested in foreign films, I recently enjoyed a trilogy 
of French film (subtitled of course), White, Red and Blue.  The colours 
represent those of the French flag and each signify one of the three 
'ideals' to emerge from the French Revolution - egalite, fraternite, 
liberte (equality, brotherhood/solidarity and liberty).  Each film is the 
personal story of a woman dealing with one of these three 'ideals' in the 
present day. Now all those men out there, do not fear the chick flick, 
because these films are surely not. Remember it is a trilogy and would be 
best to watch the films in the order I mentioned them.  I found that out 
the hard way.

Any other foreign film fans with suggestions?

P.  
52.1565ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Tue Nov 14 1995 11:5810
    
                          (__)
                          (oo)
                   /-------\/ 
                  / |     || \ 
                 *  ||W---|| Budweiser?  Gak! 
                    ~~    ~~  

    
52.1566POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerTue Nov 14 1995 13:102
    I like Budweiser commercials though. The latest one with the ant eater
    or aardvark is great.
52.1567ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Tue Nov 14 1995 13:272
    Well, yeah, they make good commericals.  Too bad the "beer" isn't as
    paletable.      
52.1568palatable, nnttmPOWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Wet RaspberriesTue Nov 14 1995 13:312
    
    
52.1569ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckTue Nov 14 1995 13:422
    
    ever the pedant.
52.1570POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerTue Nov 14 1995 13:421
    Not only that, it's not tasty to drink either!
52.1571TROOA::COLLINSThe New Mother Nature takin' over.Wed Nov 15 1995 13:278
    
    I saw a preview for the movie "Sudden Death", the latest "Die Hard"
    ripoff starring Jean-Claude Van Damme and Powers Boothe, about a
    terrorist takeover of the hockey arena in Pittsburgh during the
    Stanley Cup playoffs.
    
    Can the sport of hockey possibly get any more violent?
    
52.1572CTHU26::S_BURRIDGEWed Nov 15 1995 13:323
    If you think hockey is violent, take a look at pro football some time.
    
    -Stephen
52.1573BUSY::SLABOUNTYA seemingly endless timeWed Nov 15 1995 13:427
    
    	The object of football is to tackle the guy with the ball.
    
    	The object of hockey is to hit the puck into the other team's
    	net.  It is NOT to tackle the guy with the puck, even though
    	that's what it's turned into.
    
52.1574POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerWed Nov 15 1995 14:462
    I've noticed more and more fights in football games lately. Not the
    gentlemen they used to be once the whistle blows.
52.1575NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Nov 15 1995 14:501
Execute them all.  Right, lucky one?
52.1576TROOA::COLLINSGo, Subway Elvis!!Thu Nov 16 1995 11:098
    
    `When Night Is Falling', directed by Patricia Rozema.  Very nice film;
    better than her `White Room', but not as good as her first movie, 
    `I've Heard The Mermaids Singing'.  Beautifully photographed, well-
    scripted, and only one casting flaw.
    
    Added bonus: two stunning leading ladies `get it on'.
    
52.1577BUSY::SLABOUNTYCareer Opportunity Week at DECThu Nov 16 1995 16:135
    
    	Well, who are the leading ladies?
    
    	Just wondering, of course.
    
52.1578TROOA::COLLINSGo, Subway Elvis!!Thu Nov 16 1995 16:176
52.1579SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Thu Nov 16 1995 16:308
    .1576
    
    > Added bonus: two stunning leading ladies `get it on'.
    
    That would be full and sufficient reason not to see the film, IMHO. 
    I'd rather watch a subtle romantic comedy in which NOBODY gets it on. 
    Maybe something with William Powell and Myrna Loy in it.  Or possibly
    Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn.
52.1580WAHOO::LEVESQUEsqueal like the pig you areThu Nov 16 1995 16:386
    >> Added bonus: two stunning leading ladies `get it on'.
    
    >That would be full and sufficient reason not to see the film, IMHO. 
    
     Not to me. While it wouldn't be reason in and of itself to see a film,
    it wouldn't be reason enough to avoid one, either.
52.1581SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIif u cn rd ths, u nd to gt a lyfThu Nov 16 1995 16:397
    
    re: .1579
    
    How about John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara???
    
     :)
    
52.1582SX4GTO::OLSONDoug Olson, ISVETS Palo AltoThu Nov 16 1995 16:528
    >I'd rather watch a subtle romantic comedy in which NOBODY gets it on.
    
    Ugh.  Killjoy.  I'm not saying that a movie with abundant sex is
    necessarily a good thing, but a romantic movie full of wishful sighs
    and total dissatisfaction is a hallmark of an even worse dysfunction in
    society than the former.  French Kiss is more my style.
    
    DougO
52.1583SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Thu Nov 16 1995 17:068
    .1580, .1582
    
    When you can't act, simulate sex on screen.  That'll appeal to the
    baser instincts of the masses, and you'll be boffo at the box office.
    
    .1581
    
    Oh, be quiet, man!
52.1584TROOA::COLLINSGo, Subway Elvis!!Thu Nov 16 1995 17:1510
    
    .1583

    >When you can't act, simulate sex on screen.
   
    Anyone who had seen Helen Slater and Patricia Charbonneau in 
    `Desert Hearts' wouldn't say that!   :^)
    
    Or, for that matter, the movie I saw last night.
    
52.1585WAHOO::LEVESQUEsqueal like the pig you areThu Nov 16 1995 17:1612
    >When you can't act, simulate sex on screen.  That'll appeal to the
    >baser instincts of the masses, and you'll be boffo at the box office.
    
     That's one way of doing things. it's no more or less intrinsically
    valuable than the amusing but sanitized films known as "classics" by
    those who believe in the "good old days."
    
     Personally, I'd find value in films that didn't sugar coat things,
    didn't pretend that real live adults don't argue, didn't pretend that
    real, live adults don't screw their brains out on occasion. Neither of
    these things as a focus makes for a great film, but for someone going
    for realism they can play excellent supporting roles.
52.1586LANDO::OLIVER_Bhysterical elitistThu Nov 16 1995 17:212
    well, i'd love to see Brad Pitt and Antonio Banderas go at it.
    Had my hopes up during "Interview" but alas, no dice.
52.1587BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Nov 16 1995 17:221
<----we have the same taste in men.... :-)
52.1588LANDO::OLIVER_Bhysterical elitistThu Nov 16 1995 17:353
    aw, gee, i mean that scene when brad basically says "thanks,
    but no thanks" in antonio's face and then turns and walks.
    i mean, youza.  hot.
52.1589SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Thu Nov 16 1995 17:4815
    .1585
    
    > didn't pretend that real live adults don't argue,
    
    You've obviously not seen the "Thin Man" films, then.
    
    > didn't pretend that
    > real, live adults don't screw their brains out on occasion.
    
    There's a vast gulf between letting the audience imagine the act and
    spelling it out for the audience with icky sticky clarity.  Sorry, but
    I know what it looks like, and I know what it sounds like, and I'd
    rather not play amateur zoologist watching the animals make whoopie.
    
    YMMV.  Which is fine with me.
52.1590WAHOO::LEVESQUEsqueal like the pig you areThu Nov 16 1995 17:537
    >There's a vast gulf between letting the audience imagine the act and
    >spelling it out for the audience with icky sticky clarity.  Sorry, but
    >I know what it looks like, and I know what it sounds like, and I'd
    >rather not play amateur zoologist watching the animals make whoopie.
    
     Nobody said we had to see each spasm. On the other hand, maintaining
    an artificial boundary with the camera is lame, lame, lame.
52.1591BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Nov 16 1995 17:546
| <<< Note 52.1588 by LANDO::OLIVER_B "hysterical elitist" >>>

| i mean, youza.  hot.


	droooollllll..... :-0
52.1592DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Thu Nov 16 1995 19:574
Swamp Thing last night.
One of the great grade Z types.
Cheesey mindless trash you love to love.
The kid's got the best one-liners in the film.
52.1593SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIif u cn rd ths, u nd to gt a lyfThu Nov 16 1995 20:018
    
    
    re: Swamp Thing 
    
    Who was that actress??? Adrienne Bourbeaux (sp?)
    
    
    Oh you know!!! The original Hooters waitress!!!
52.1594BIGQ::SILVADiabloThu Nov 16 1995 20:033

	I know she was in the Fog..... 
52.1595BUSY::SLABOUNTYDo ya wanna bump and grind with me?Thu Nov 16 1995 21:423
    
    	And "Creepshow".
    
52.1596Jigsaw ManDYPSS1::COGHILLSteve Coghill, Luke 14:28Fri Nov 17 1995 12:158
   Rented "Jigsaw Man".  Pretty good flick.  Not exactly a spy suspense,
   but definitely of the Cold War spy genre.
   
   Laurence Olivier, Michael Caine and Susan George.  Michael held up
   pretty good against Sir Laurence, but one of the other prime
   characters (Sir James was the character name, but I can't recall the
   actor's name (although I recognized him from other flicks)) looked
   absurd next to Sir Laurence.
52.1597TROOA::COLLINSGo, Subway Elvis!!Fri Nov 17 1995 12:309
    
    Caine has always been *at least* a good actor, and in some roles he
    has been great.  Unfortunately, he's rather undiscriminating in his
    choice of projects.
    
    What was the name of the other movie he and Olivier did together (it 
    was originally a stage play)?  I enjoyed that one very much, and
    thought Caine pulled off the Inspector Doppler role admirably.
    
52.1598sleuthCTHU26::S_BURRIDGEFri Nov 17 1995 12:321
    
52.1599TROOA::COLLINSGo, Subway Elvis!!Fri Nov 17 1995 12:333
    
    That's it.  Thanks.
    
52.1600SnArFVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyFri Nov 17 1995 12:362
    James Bond is on tonight.  Yippee!
    And it was on last night too. 
52.1601WAHOO::LEVESQUEsqueal like the pig you areFri Nov 17 1995 12:383
    I'm wondering about Goldeneye. Cold be we have a new James Bond. (I
    always like Sean Connery the best. Roger Moore never seemed to be as
    good. And the last one was a bust.
52.1602TROOA::COLLINSGo, Subway Elvis!!Fri Nov 17 1995 12:426
    
    `Goldeneye' has been hyped up as much as Windows 95 was.  I'll probably
    go to see it through force of habit, but I suspect there'll be little
    difference between it and the Timothy Dalton movies, `License To Kill'
    and `The Living Daylights'.
    
52.1603CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri Nov 17 1995 12:486
    I like Pierce Brosnan anyway so I am expecting to enjoy him as the new
    Bond.  Timothy Dalton was uninspiring, Sean was the best however and I
    expect him to remain the definitive Bond.  Roger Moore was better in
    The Saint IMO.  
    
    Brian
52.1604ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckFri Nov 17 1995 12:492
    
    try out Assasins if you like action, its great
52.1605BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't get even ... get odd!!Fri Nov 17 1995 12:557
    
    	If you can ever find a movie called "The Heist", definitely check
    	it out.  Pierce Brosnan gets out of prison to exact revenge on the
    	guy who set him up [Tom Skerritt].
    
    	Non-violent and alot of fun.
    
52.1606WAHOO::LEVESQUEsqueal like the pig you areFri Nov 17 1995 12:575
    >I like Pierce Brosnan anyway so I am expecting to enjoy him as the new
    >Bond.  
    
     I don't typically care much for him, but he seems to be able to carry
    off the lines in a way that Dalton just couldn't. 
52.1607That's a Smith & Wesson... and you've had your 6. BANGVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyFri Nov 17 1995 13:056
    I liked Roger Moore better than connory (sp?).  I didn't care for the
    newer bond movies a while back, but they're good.  Goldeneye was
    on the Wood Brothers winston cup stocker this past weekend.  Maybe
    I'll go see that in the theatre.
    
    I got 'em all taped anyway.
52.1608CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Fri Nov 17 1995 13:386
    
>    try out Assasins if you like action, its great


  With Jerry Garcia?
52.1609Sounds like a job for Turf BuilderNORX::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoFri Nov 17 1995 15:4012
    This should go in "Lines from the Movies", but as long as "Swamp Thing"
    came up here...
    
    One of the "Swamp Thing" movies has one of the greatest lines I've
    ever read about (I didn't see it, unfortunately).  Swamp Thing is
    talking to some girl who has apparently fallen in love with him,
    and wants to marry him.  He declines, and she asks why.  His reply
    goes pretty much like this:
    
    "'Why can't I marry you?' Because I'm a *plant*, that's why!!"
    
    Chris
52.1610CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Sat Nov 18 1995 02:4310


 Watched Goodfellas tonight for about the 10th time..still like 
 that movie.  I don't know what it is about "gangster" or mob
 movies that I like..



 Jim
52.1611MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Sat Nov 18 1995 11:312
We Italians are just naturally loveable, Jim.

52.1612CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Sat Nov 18 1995 15:1316


 ;-)



 There were a few technical errors I found, specifically at the scene
 where we first see Henry as an adult.  They are at Idlewild Airport
 in 1963.  The show a couple aircraft landing, once if which is 
 a 747 (which weren't flying then) and they also show Henry and
 Tommy standing at the rear of a 1965 Chevrolet.



 Jim
52.1613POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerSat Nov 18 1995 23:301
    <--- Stuff like that can ruin a movie for me. 
52.1614CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Sun Nov 19 1995 01:0117


  It bugged me a bit the first time I saw it.  There were a few other
 technical things I noticed, but it was still a good movie.


 Tonight I watched "Hannah and Her Sisters"..one of my favorite Woody
 Allen movies.  I'm quite disappointed with Mr. Allen in the last few
 years, but I still like his movies.  I also rented "broadway Danny Rose"
 which I'm sure I'll get around to watching one of these days.


 Jim feeling kinda crummy all day so he rented a few movies.



52.1615GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedMon Nov 20 1995 11:168
    
    
    Saw "Quick and the Dead" and "While You Were Sleeping" this weekend. 
    Both were okay, but I preferred the Q&TD.  Had some hokie things, but
    an enjoyable nobrainer (which makes it very appropriate for me).  WYWS
    was okay, more of a date type movie I guess.
    
    Mike
52.1616ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Nov 20 1995 11:405
    
    Mike, I am still waiting to see "The Quick and the Dead". Movie was
    loosley based on a Louis L'Amour novel. I love Gene Hackman as an
    actor, he's great. Sharon Stone isn't bad either. Maybe, this weekend
    I'll rent it.
52.1617ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Nov 20 1995 11:415
    Saw Rob Roy (a buddy of mine wanted to see it, so we rented it).  Waste
    of time.  Not a movie for the kiddies, to be sure.
    
    
    -steve
52.1618GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedMon Nov 20 1995 11:579
    
    
    
    Mark, 
    
    Hackman plays someone you love to hate in this flick.  
    
    
    Mike
52.1619AceDYPSS1::COGHILLSteve Coghill, Luke 14:28Mon Nov 20 1995 12:049
   Saw Ace Ventura II.  Wait for the video (if even then).
   
   It was cute and funny in many places, but lacked consistency.  This
   version has even more and blantant sexual inuendo than the first one.
   
   Its best line of comedy was the paradies on other movies.  Opens
   with a take-off on "Cliffhanger."  The take-off on "Sniper" was
   pretty good also.  Some really great sight gags that had the theatre
   rolling with laughter.
52.1620SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 20 1995 12:187
    
    
    	I'd heard "The Quick and the Dead" wasn't that great, but I haven't
    seen it yet. Maybe I will take a copy home after all...
    
    
    jim
52.1621Bring back Connery...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseMon Nov 20 1995 12:324
    
      Goldeneye is IMO only average 007.  Pierce Brosnan ?
    
      bb
52.1622SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIif u cn rd ths, u nd to gt a lyfMon Nov 20 1995 12:386
    
    
    The submarine flick with Denzel and Gene is in the video stores...
    
    Forgot the title.... is it any good??
    
52.1623TROOA::COLLINSHappy Kine and the MirthmakersMon Nov 20 1995 12:443
    
    `Crimson Tide'.    Yes.
    
52.1624SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIif u cn rd ths, u nd to gt a lyfMon Nov 20 1995 12:473
    
    Thanks !Joan...
    
52.1625POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerMon Nov 20 1995 13:041
    Trust Crimson Tide to get clothes red!
52.1626DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Mon Nov 20 1995 13:4610
    
    
    	I liked Golden Eye even though most of it was extremely
    	far fetched.  And Pierce isn't bad as Bond.  A heckuva lot
    	better than Timothy Dalton was!
    
    	Only bad part was we went on opening night and got stuck
    	down front.  I had to put plugs in my ears cuz it was 
    	so LOUD!!
    
52.1627CNTROL::JENNISONRevive us, Oh LordMon Nov 20 1995 19:074
    
    	I wasn't impressed with the Quick and the Dead... enough
    	so that I missed the $3.15 we paid to rent it.
    
52.1628GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedMon Nov 20 1995 19:098
    
    
    
    Some of it may have to do with my gun nut status.  There were some
    interesting pieces in the flick.
    
    
    Mike
52.1629BUSY::SLABOUNTYAct like you own the companyMon Nov 20 1995 19:525
    
    	Ahhh, yes, the flick set in the days of "We're all armed and we
    	will shoot you just for fun.  But we bought these things for tar-
    	get practice and peace of mind".
    
52.1630SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 20 1995 20:387
    
    
    	Murder rate in the "wild west" was about .5 per 100,000. Murder
    rate today is about 9 per 100,000. You tell me when it was safer...
    
    
    
52.1631BUSY::SLABOUNTYAlways a Best Man, never a groomMon Nov 20 1995 21:294
    
    	I have a hard time believing that 450K people are murdered every
    	year.
    
52.1632SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 20 1995 21:4217
    
    
    Where do you get the 450K people murdered each year out of those
    numbers?
    
    	222mil people in the U.S.
    
    	9 out of 100,000 murdered each year
    
    	222mil / 100,000 = 2220
    
    	2220 X 9 = 19980 murdered each year
    
    	check yer numbers....
    
    
    jim
52.1633BUSY::SLABOUNTYAlways a Best Man, never a groomMon Nov 20 1995 21:463
    
    	I was using the world population of 5 billion.
    
52.1634SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 20 1995 21:498
    
    
    	The average rate in the U.S.A. is 9 per 100,000, Canada is 2 per
    100,000, etc......it varies around the world. It wouldn't suprise me if
    450,000 murders occured around the world every year.
    
    
    jim
52.1635EVMS::MORONEYOperation Foot BulletMon Nov 20 1995 21:592
Heck, it probably takes only 3 or 4 hellholes (such as Rwanda or Bosnia) per
year to get 450K, all by themselves.
52.1636True.BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansMon Nov 20 1995 22:021
    Rwanda had more than 450K killed all by themselves last year, I thought.
52.1637SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 20 1995 22:046
    
    	that's war tho', not murder (I suppose it depends how you look at
    it).
    
    
    
52.1638EVMS::MORONEYOperation Foot BulletMon Nov 20 1995 22:233
How do you count it when one side captures a village or region, then proceeds
to kill civilians, including women and children, just because they're the
'wrong' race, religion, tribe or whatever?
52.1639BUSY::SLABOUNTYAlways a Best Man, never a groomMon Nov 20 1995 22:283
    
    	Depends on whether it helps or hurts his viewpoint.
    
52.1640SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 20 1995 22:3414
    
    
    	It has nothing to do with hurting or helping my viewpoint. The 9
    per 100,000 figure comes from the bureau of justice statistics. Feel
    free to look up the numbers yourself.
    
    	re: what do I call it when...
    
    	Ethnic cleansing is murder. Civilian casualties during war is not
    murder. I guess it all depends which war we're talking about (there's
    so many to choose from)....
    
    
    jim
52.1641BUSY::SLABOUNTYAlways a Best Man, never a groomMon Nov 20 1995 22:379
    
    	Oh, I don't doubt your numbers.  I'm just wondering if the
    	comparison to "The Wild West" is valid or not.
    
    	IE, what area was considered "The Wild West"?  Was it all of
    	the US, or just the portion west of the Mississippi, or what?
    	And how does the .5/100K number compare to the numbers from
    	the same area of today?
    
52.1642SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 20 1995 22:488
    
    
    	Ok, murder rate in DODGE CITY was .5 per 100,000. Since the murder
    rate in the cities is considerably higher than the murder rate in the
    suburbs/rural areas, would you care to guess how the rates would
    compare today?
    
    
52.1643Do what the Pillar of Cloud says...SCAS02::GUINEO::MOOREPerhapsTheDreamIsDreamingUsTue Nov 21 1995 04:106
    
    .1638
    
    ...sounds like you've been reading the Old Testament.
    
    ;^)
52.1644WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Nov 21 1995 09:341
    Jim, don't even waste your breath on these guys.
52.1645CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Tue Nov 21 1995 12:2416



 Watched Woodie Allen's "Broadway Danny Rose" last night.  One scene had
 me laughing so hard I thought I was going to pass out.  He and Mia Farrow
 were in warehouse where they store the Thanksgiving Day parade balloons..a
 bad guy was chasing them and fired a couple shots that hit a big helium
 tank..the bad guy yells at Woodie and Mia with a helium influenced voice
 and woodie and mia are yelling at each other also with high pitched voices..
 I'd forgotten about that scene.




 JIm
52.1646BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Tue Nov 21 1995 13:093
    
    	Where is/was Dodge City?  Is it still around?
    
52.1647SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIif u cn rd ths, u nd to gt a lyfTue Nov 21 1995 13:244
    
    
    Isn't that someplace on the "Auto-Mile" on Rt. 128????
    
52.1648NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Nov 21 1995 13:2613
52.1649CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Tue Nov 21 1995 13:274


 Dodge City is in Kansas, I believe
52.1650SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Tue Nov 21 1995 13:2816
    .1646
    
    From the American Heritage Dictionary, Third Edition:
    
        Dodge City
        A city of southwest Kansas on the Arkansas River west of Wichita.
        Laid out on the Santa Fe Trail in 1872, it soon became a wild and
        rowdy cow town whose residents included such legendary figures as
        Wyatt Earp and Bat Masterson. Population, 21,129.
    
    This population figure is current as of the 1990 census; it does not
    reflect the population in the Wild West days, when there were rather
    fewer people there.  Which suggests that about 1/10 person was murdered
    annually in the city.  I have my doubts as to the veracity of that
    figure; I'd guess that Jim Sadin's .5/100,000 should be more on the
    order of .5/1,000.
52.1651BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Tue Nov 21 1995 13:366
    
    	Well, how many people are murdered each year in Dodge City now?
    
    	Like I said, Jim, statistics can be manipulated to prove your
    	point.
    
52.1652ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckTue Nov 21 1995 13:486
    
    well Jim, in the "Old West", just about everyone wore a gun, just like
    you'de wear pants. also, there were very few "real" gunfights. Mostly
    if they saw you in town, they shot you in the back. There were a few
    real gunfighters though. Langford Peel, Wild Bill Hickcock, Earp to
    name a few. ymmv
52.1653SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Tue Nov 21 1995 14:248
    .1652
    
    > well Jim, in the "Old West", just about everyone wore a gun...
    
    Which goes to show you that an armed society is a polite, and safe,
    society.  Of course, this isn't a "feel good" position, so the
    bleeding-heart liberals can't buy it.  They've made up their minds and
    don't want to be confused by the facts.
52.1654ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckTue Nov 21 1995 14:383
    
    well Dick, when I'm facing a loaded gun, I am the politest person
    next to Miss manners. :-) :-)
52.1655BUSY::SLABOUNTYBasket CaseTue Nov 21 1995 14:396
    
    	But an unarmed society isn't a polite and safe society?
    
    	An armed person can still be stabbed in the back before [s]he
    	has a chance to protect him/herself.
    
52.1656smokedGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseTue Nov 21 1995 14:414
    
      Particularly if Marshall Dillon is around...
    
      bb
52.1657SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIif u cn rd ths, u nd to gt a lyfTue Nov 21 1995 14:549
    
    re: .1655
    
    >But an unarmed society isn't a polite and safe society?
    
    Shawn...
    
    Ask the residents of, say, NYC and D.C.
    
52.1658NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Nov 21 1995 15:152
NYC and D.C. aren't unarmed societies -- just look at the number of shootings.
Japan is largely an unarmed society.
52.1659SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Nov 21 1995 15:177
    
    	Japan is also a police state.
    
    	Nazi germany was very safe if you were white, blond haired, blue
    eyed, and not a jew....care to live there?
    
    jim
52.1660NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Nov 21 1995 15:201
Japan is a police state?  How so?
52.1661interesting report...SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Nov 21 1995 15:2587
Press Release

National Data Show Drop in Homicide and Increase in Youth Suicide

For Release October 23, 1995


DES MOINES, Iowa--The number of homicides in the United States
dropped significantly in 1994, according to provisional data released
today at the National Violence Prevention Conference co-sponsored by
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the
University of Iowa Injury Prevention Research Center in Des Moines,
Iowa. Although the homicide rates continue to decline, youth suicide
rates are increasing. 

According to data from CDC there were 23,730 homicides in 1994, down
from 25,470 in 1993. With the decline, homicide falls from being the 10th
leading cause of death in the U.S. to being the 11th leading cause of
death.

"Reducing violence in this country is a top priority, so this is encouraging
news," said Vice President Al Gore who delivered the keynote address
opening the conference. "But this is only the beginning, because 23,000
homicides a year are still far too many. And homicide is still the second
leading killer for young Americans, ages 15-24, and the third for young
children, ages 5-14."

The report shows death rates from homicide fell by 8 percent, from 10.5
deaths per 100,000 in 1993 to 9.7 in 1994, continuing the downward
trend that started in 1992. From 1987 through 1991, the homicide rate
had risen at an average of 5 percent a year. For youth homicides, among
young men aged 15-24 years, the news is not as promising. The rates for
homicide in this group have not come down, although they have leveled
off. The rate of firearm homicide among 15- to 24-year-old males is
over 3 times that of the overall homicide rate (33 per 100,000 population
in contrast to 9.1 per 100,000 population). Firearm homicides among
males aged 15-24 years account for nearly 90 percent of the total
homicides in this age group. 

In contrast to homicide, suicide rates in the United States are not
declining. The number of suicides in 1994 was 32,410, up from 31,230 in
1993. As with homicide, suicide is a major concern for young men aged
15-24 years. Since the mid-1950's, suicide rates have more than tripled
among males in this age group, and this increase shows no sign of
slowing up. Suicide rates among young men aged 15-24 years remain
twice as high as the overall suicide rate in the United States. Although
suicide rates for blacks are lower than for whites, the rate for black
males age 15-19 years increased 165 percent from 1980 to 1992.

In commenting on the drop in homicide rates, DHHS Secretary Donna
E. Shalala said, "These findings are encouraging signs that violence can
be preventable. We have made progress in preventing homicides. Now we
need to do the same thing for family and intimate violence, suicide, and
violence in the workplace." 

Sen Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), who obtained funding for the Des Moines
conference, said: "A stunning simultaneous breakdown of community,
family, and work has created a vacuum which has been filled by
violence, drugs, and gangs. Prevention is the key and it is fitting that
CDC is sponsoring this conference. Violence is very much like a disease
-- it can be studied, understood, and prevented."

About 1,000 representatives from public and private organizations across
the country have come together in Des Moines to find solutions for
violence prevention. Participants at the conference represent health, law
enforcement, education, social services, academic institutions, Federal
and State governments, and community-based organizations. The
conference will begin Monday morning, October 23 and end with an
address by Attorney General Janet Reno Wednesday morning, October
25. 

"Society has not adequately protected our young people from two violent
ends to young lives: homicide and suicide," said Dr. David Satcher,
Director of CDC. "While it's encouraging to see the overall homicide
rate come down, it's distressing to see so many of our young people dying
from violence that is either self-inflicted or inflicted by another. We
have got to find more effective ways to prevent this."

For further information regarding the report Annual Summary of
Births, Marriages, Divorces, and Deaths: United States, 1994, please
contact NCHS, Office of Public Affairs (301) 436-7551, or via e-mail
at paoquery@nch10a.em.cdc.gov.

For further information regarding the report Suicide in the United
States: 1980-1992, from the National Center for Injury Prevention
and Control, please contact Mary Ann Fenley (770) 488-4902

52.1662MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalTue Nov 21 1995 15:354
    Japan is also a monolithic country and there is a deep honor and
    respect for other peoples property over there.
    
    -Jack
52.1663SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Nov 21 1995 15:399
    
    	How would you like to be on trial in Japan? Do you think a Japanese
    style criminal justice system would be accepted in America? 
    
    	Maybe police state is a bit too harsh, but Japan's criminal justice
    system is nothing like America's.....
    
    
    jim
52.1664BUSY::SLABOUNTYBe gone - you have no powers hereTue Nov 21 1995 15:414
    
    	So does that mean the Japanese legal system doesn't favor the
    	criminal as much as ours does?
    
52.1665SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Nov 21 1995 15:456
    
    	It means the Japanese legal system probably punishes alot of
    innocent people. It means the Japanese legal system has much more power
    than a legal system should.
    
    
52.1666another reportSUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Nov 21 1995 15:4647
Highlights of a new report from the

National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS)

Advance Report of Final Mortality Statistics, 1992

Monthly Vital Statistics Report, Vol. 43, No. 6, Supp.

For Release December 8, 1994 (Corrected and reprinted March 22, 1995)



The Advance Report of Final Mortality Statistics, 1992 was released by the
National Center for Health Statistics.

Data highlights

   Life expectancy in the U.S. reached an all-time high in 1992 of
   75.8 years.

   Infant mortality fell to an all-time low of 8.5 infant deaths per
   1,000 live births in 1992, although the rate for black infants was
   2.4 times the rate for white infants.

   Age-adjusted death rates for the six leading causes of death in the
   U.S. (heart disease, cancer, stroke, lung disease, accidents, and
   pneumonia/influenza) fell in 1992.

   Death rates for most age groups declined in 1992, except for the
   age group 35-44 years. Increased death rates for this population
   were mainly attributable to deaths from HIV infection, which
   killed 33,566 Americans in 1992.

   Drug-induced mortality increased sharply between 1991 and
   1992, while death rates for alcohol-induced causes remained
   unchanged. 

   The number of homicides in the country declined in 1992 to
   25,488, down from 26,513 in 1991. 

   The number of firearm deaths also declined, from 38,317 in 1991
   to 37,776 in 1992. Firearm suicide and homicide together
   accounted for 95 percent of all firearm deaths. 

For more information, please contact NCHS, Office of Public Affairs
(301) 436-7551, or via e-mail at paoquery@nch10a.em.cdc.gov.

52.1667PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Nov 21 1995 15:522
  .1666  oh yeah, i saw that movie.  that was a good one.
52.1668MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalTue Nov 21 1995 15:551
    Smarty britches!
52.1669SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIif u cn rd ths, u nd to gt a lyfTue Nov 21 1995 15:5611
    
    RE: .1658
    
    >NYC and D.C. aren't unarmed societies -- just look at the number of
    >shootings. 
    
    Gerald,
    
     Yes they are, or do you consider the criminal element as part of that
    society...?
    
52.1670SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Nov 21 1995 16:0712
    
    
    	Shawn,
    
    	Yes, statistics can be twisted around to mean different things.
    Yes, they are used to support agendas. I will make an honest effort to
    locate statistical sources for the numbers I've quoted you (I know I
    have the studies, it's just a question of looking them up). In return,
    I would like you to do more than just conter with conjecture....get
    some data and support your position.
    
    	jim
52.1671just a cord and a gunSWAM1::MEUSE_DAWed Nov 22 1995 01:3215
    
    
    The Bungee jump in Goldeneye turns out was not f/x.
    
    The stunt guy jumps 750+ feet down a dam.
    
    incredible to see.
    
    
    Overall I really liked that movie.
    
    Dave
    
    
    
52.1672CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitFri Nov 24 1995 15:497
    Saw Crimson Tide last night.
    
    It wasn`t my idea,as I thought it would be way too predictable.
    
    As it happens,I was glad I went. Good acting from the boys Wes and
    Gene. Good suspense type stuff.
    
52.1673CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Mon Nov 27 1995 00:5610


 Saw Goldeneye last night..pretty good.  Pierce Brosnan is great as James
 Bond, IMO of course.




 Jim
52.1674SCASS1::GUINEO::MOOREPerhapsTheDreamIsDreamingUsMon Nov 27 1995 04:053
    < Except for that hokey stunt at the beginning where he jumps off the
      cliff AFTER the airplane and...well, I won't ruin it, but suffice
     it to say, people were ROFL in the audience. TOO unbelievable.
52.1675SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 27 1995 10:2120
    
    
    	re: shawn
    
    	Here's a little tidbit I just read this morning about the murder
    rate in Columbia.
    
    "For the last few years, the half million residents of Uraba, an area
    slightly smaller than New Jersey, have withstood the most brutal armed
    confrontations between political opponents in Colombia. Last year 244
    people per 100,000 were killed, more than three times the national
    average of one of the most violent countries."
    
    	This comes from an article in the New York Times. Taking this
    information, it seems that Colombia's average murder rate is 8 times
    what the U.S. murder rate is (US = 10 per 100,000, Colombia = 80 per
    100,000). Do you still think it's unreasonable to believe that the average
    world murder rate could be around 10 per 100,000?
    
    jim
52.1676CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Mon Nov 27 1995 12:0412
>    < Except for that hokey stunt at the beginning where he jumps off the
>      cliff AFTER the airplane and...well, I won't ruin it, but suffice
>     it to say, people were ROFL in the audience. TOO unbelievable.


  agreed.  There were a couple places in the movie where I felt transitions
 weren't done very well.



 JIm
52.1677ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Nov 27 1995 13:376
    
    saw "The Quick and the Dead" + "While you were Sleeping" over the
    weekend. Hackman was playing a part very similar to his lil Bill role
    in Unforgiven. It was ok, glad I waited for the video, rather than
    seeing it in the theatre. while you were sleeping was only ok.
    Sleepless in Seattle was much better.
52.1678TROOA::COLLINSThe manual is pure fiction.Mon Nov 27 1995 13:458
    
    .1677
    
    >While You Were Sleeping was only ok.
    >Sleepless in Seattle was much better.
    
    How did they both compare with The Big Sleep?
    
52.1679GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedMon Nov 27 1995 13:483
    
    
    Tiring, I'm sure......
52.1680TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisit's tummy time!Mon Nov 27 1995 13:481
Woody Allen's "Sleeper" was good for a laugh or two
52.1681POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerMon Nov 27 1995 13:503
    <---- I like the new pn.
    
    8^)
52.1682ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Nov 27 1995 14:032
    
    the actor who played the Kid, looked an awful lot like Ricky Schroeder.
52.1683CNTROL::JENNISONRevive us, Oh LordMon Nov 27 1995 14:218
    
    	Saw Crimson Tide and Batman Forever over the weekend.
    
    	I enjoyed both of them.
    
    	Karen
    
    
52.1684PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 27 1995 14:313
   Carrey was a scream.

52.16851 thumb up, three down.GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseMon Nov 27 1995 14:3320
    
      Rented Crimson Tide, Batman Forever, Rob Roy, and Apollo 13, none
     of which I had seen.  IMO, rent Apollo 13 and skip the others.
     Crimson Tide has so many things wrong with it, I consider it comedy.
     Two very good actors wasted on a silly plot line.  Batman Forever
     would appeal to boys up to about 10, but isn't for adults.  If you
     think Jim Carrey is funny, try The Mask or Ace Ventura, Pet Detective.
     You'll be disappointed here.  And it lacks all the subtlety of the
     earlier, better, and funnier batmen.  I had high hopes for Rob Roy -
     the Scottish scenery is wonderful, and Liam Neeson and Jessica Lange
     are both good actors.  But, alas, this story is stupid also, and the
     finale features the worst choreographed, and most lethargic, sword
     fight in movie history.
    
      What a truly wonderful movie Apollo 13 is !!!  I'm not a space nut.
     Tom Hanks is not my favorite actor.  But the whole movie is so well
     crafted, you find yourself letting down all your defenses and
     suspending belief.
    
      bb
52.1686PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 27 1995 14:418
     >If you
     >think Jim Carrey is funny, try The Mask or Ace Ventura, Pet Detective.
     >You'll be disappointed here. 

	I respectfully disagree.  Well, not all that respectfully. ;>
	I thought Ace was his best, didn't like The Mask, and thought
	he had some really funny moments in Batman Forever.

52.1687GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedMon Nov 27 1995 14:4511
    
    
    
    So, Lady Di, thought Jimbo was funny in AVPD, eh?  I might have to give
    it a rethink, after seeing Mask and Dumb and Dumber, I skipped Pet
    Detective, but with this new info, I may have to give it a gander.  Of 
    course, there is no need to feel any pressure, M'Lady, although I may
    have to feed the kids beans for a day or two to beable to afford the
    rental....... :')
    
    
52.1688GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedMon Nov 27 1995 14:463
    
    
    I prolly could fit a few more commas in there if I really tried....
52.1689MAIL1::CRANEMon Nov 27 1995 14:524
    Watched Apollo 13 and Back Draft. Now almost being a full fleged FF i
    must disagree with portions of the movie Back Draft. 
    
    
52.1690PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 27 1995 14:539
    
>    I prolly could fit a few more commas in there if I really tried....

	please keep the spacing the same though, 'cuz i kinda
	like "beable". ;>

	i guess people either love or hate jim carrey.  AVPD is
	worth the rental if even just for the opening sequence, imo.
	
52.1691WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Nov 27 1995 14:561
    -1 yeah, that Tex Cobb is a riot! :-)
52.1692Toy StoryCRONIC::BOURGOINEMon Nov 27 1995 14:598
Saw Toy Story over the weekend - loved it!  My sons (3 & 4) liked it, but 
it wasn't the topic of conversation for days, like Lion King etc were.
Have to go back and see it again - this time I just wanted to "look" at it 
- next time I'll need to watch it.


Pat
52.1693CNTROL::JENNISONRevive us, Oh LordMon Nov 27 1995 16:499
    
    	Ackshully, I didn't really care for Ace Ventura, but 
    	I was fully entertained by Batman forever.  I thought it
    	was a perfect Jim Carrey role.  I didn't care for the first
    	Batman movie, and haven't seen the second.
    
    	I don't think Crimson Tide will win any Oscars, but again,
    	I was entertained.
    
52.1694WAHOO::LEVESQUEsmooth, fast, bright and playfulMon Nov 27 1995 16:5210
    Jury Duty (starring Pauly Shore) and Nobody's Fool (starring Paul
    Newman.) 
    
     Jury Duty was your average clunker comedy. Poor plot, a few decent
    gags and quips, but otherwise you'll need a roomful of people all
    chipping in on the $2 rental to make it worth the money.
    
     Nobody's Fool was boring as hell. I started to fall asleep and went to
    bed. Your typical dysfunctional family during the holidays. This is
    entertainment?
52.1695BUSY::SLABOUNTYThis is the Central ScrutinizerMon Nov 27 1995 16:596
    
    	If you want to see a great "dysfunctional family during the
    	holidays" movie, check out "The Ref" with Dennis Leary.
    
    	I was ROLLING throughout most of that one!!
    
52.1696DASHER::RALSTONscrewiti'mgoinhome..Mon Nov 27 1995 17:031
    Saw "Nick of Time" yesterday. It was OK. Wait for the video.
52.1697CSLALL::HENDERSONFriend, will you be ready?Mon Nov 27 1995 17:2111



 I also enjoyed Batman Forever, and I am not a big Jim Carrey fan.  I watched
 about 15 minutes of the first Ace Ventura movie and shut it off..I'll pass
 on the second one.



 Jim
52.1698POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerMon Nov 27 1995 17:425
    Well, I found the first Ace movie to be so funny, I bought it the very
    first day it was out on video. From the HDS package guy to Hindskits
    Velvet, trainer of dolphins, to the loony bin infiltration scene to the
    Crying Game spoof, I was simply kept in stitches, rolling, giggling and
    guffawing!
52.1699BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansMon Nov 27 1995 17:5516
    We saw "Money Train" over the weekend.

    Woody and Wesley do a great job of sibling-type arguments and there's
    some neat action with fast moving subway trains, and we were entertained
    - but I think they should have shortened the sibling argument scenes
    and lengthened the Money Train robbery plot.

    Their sibling stuff was funny in places, but it went too far at times
    into real long-standing family resentments (which made me want to call
    my sister to ask about why she once grabbed my doll and threw it across
    the room when I was 5.) :|

    Different editing could have made this movie better, in my opinion.
    Woody and Wesley were good together and the action scenes on the
    trains were very impressive.  It was worth seeing for those reasons,
    but I think this movie could have been a lot better.
52.1700SMURF::MSCANLONinspiteofmyrageiamstilljustaratinacageMon Nov 27 1995 18:108
    Saw "Money Train".
    
    Not oscar stuff, however, it was fast, funny, had good dialog,
    and had me on the edge of my seat more than a couple of times.  Thumbs
    up for mind candy. :-)
    
    The dialog reminded very much of "White Men Can't Jump." Wesley and
    Woody have a very good rapport.
52.1701BUSY::SLABOUNTYThis Son of a Gun for HireMon Nov 27 1995 18:1718
    
    	I want to see "Toy Story".  I've been waiting for it since I
    	saw the previews before "Batman Forever".
    
    	And I caught "Terminal Velocity" the other day on cable.  Not
    	bad, really, but highly unbelievable.  Tell me how someone
    	can open the trunk of a car, without falling off or being blown
    	off, while plummeting towards the ground at a very high rate of
    	speed.  Not to mention the fact that they would have hit the
    	ground a minute or so before they actually got out of the car.
    
    	And I taped "Return to Witch Mountain" the other night but I
    	haven't seen it yet.  Saw "Escape from Witch Mountain" about
    	3 weeks ago for the 1st time in many years.  It's amazing to
    	see Kim Richards from that long ago, and compare her to what
    	she looked like in "Hello Larry" and especially "Tuff Turf"
    	[yow!!] co-starring with James Spader.
    
52.1702ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Nov 27 1995 18:274
    
    I saw a photo of Kim Richards a couple of years ago, almost didn't
    recognize her. She is even prettier now than "Tuff Turf" days. Oh, she
    also has a kid or two....
52.1703exCONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenWed Nov 29 1995 17:055
    Rented Johnny Mnemonic last night.  Interesting entertainment.  No sex,
    no nudidity, lot's of violence, cool (to me) visuals.  I liked it for
    what it was.  Escapist fare.  
    
    Brian
52.1704SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Wed Nov 29 1995 17:518
    .1703
    
    Tell me you haven't read the short story that this awful movie was
    based on.  Please.  If you had, you could not possibly have thought
    the movie was any good at all.  They even wrote Molly out, ferpetesake!
    
    Even the CD-ROM game sucks.  It got a 1-star review in this month's
    MacUser.
52.1705POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerWed Nov 29 1995 17:561
    Is the Dances With Wolves CD-ROM game any fun?
52.1706CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenWed Nov 29 1995 17:571
    No, dinna read the short story.  
52.1707PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Nov 29 1995 18:014
  that's keanu, isn't it?  i always find it a tough choice between
  watching one of his movies and sticking pins in my eyes.

52.1708SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Wed Nov 29 1995 18:0612
    .1706
    
    Okay then.  The story is in a collection of William Gibson's stories,
    entitled _Burning Chrome._  This stuff is a variety of science fiction
    called cyberpunk; Gibson invented it.  Gibson is a fabulous writer; he
    throws away more ideas in a single paragraph than most authors expose
    in a whole novel.  The short story "Burning Chrome" is one of the
    finest SF shorts ever written.
    
    Find a copy of the book.  Read it.  Then come back and see if you can
    keep a straight face while saying that the movie of "Johnny Mnemonic"
    is good for anything other than wearing out the heads on a VCR.
52.1709ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckWed Nov 29 1995 18:072
    
    go with the pins
52.1710LANDO::OLIVER_Bhysterical elitistWed Nov 29 1995 18:121
    oh, keanu's cute.  can't act to save his life though.
52.1711PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Nov 29 1995 18:254
>    oh, keanu's cute. 

     feh.  he does nothing for me.

52.1712NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Nov 29 1995 18:251
Mebbe if you asked him nicely...
52.1713BUSY::SLABOUNTYAfterbirth of a NationWed Nov 29 1995 18:284
    
    	But "Hey little boy, want some candy?" isn't the recommended
    	phrase.
    
52.1714SMURF::WALTERSWed Nov 29 1995 18:312
    Mebbe if you took out the pins?
    
52.1715PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Nov 29 1995 18:393
  what a helpful lot you are.  thanks.  thanks a million.

52.1716CNTROL::JENNISONRevive us, Oh LordWed Nov 29 1995 19:046
    
    	So, I guess you don't want to come over and watch
    	Point Break this weekend, di ?
    
    	Karen
    
52.1717LANDO::OLIVER_Bhysterical elitistWed Nov 29 1995 19:062
    what a cool movie!  specially when keanu jumps from the 
    plane sans parachute!  
52.1718PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Nov 29 1995 19:084
  .1716  maybe if you had some pie left, but it doesn't
	 sound like it.

52.1719CNTROL::JENNISONRevive us, Oh LordWed Nov 29 1995 19:156
    
    
    	Actually, there's still a bit of apple pie left.  Shall I
    	pinch you now ?
    
    
52.1720POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerWed Nov 29 1995 20:341
    Any boob cake left? I'm fresh out of pins.
52.1721CNTROL::JENNISONRevive us, Oh LordThu Nov 30 1995 12:085
    
    	Sorry, di.  No more pie left.  It's on its way to Glenn.
    	Air mail, sort of.
    
    
52.1722CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenThu Nov 30 1995 12:134
    Watched Batman Forever last night.  Disappointed.  Maybe it was the due
    to the soundtrack being screwed up on the copy I had.  Maybe I am
    getting tired of Jim Carrey's schtick.  Glad I did not see it in the
    theater.
52.1723TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisit's tummy time!Thu Nov 30 1995 13:167
Money Train - not worth full price at the theatre, although it has
enough fun to recommend a video rental.  The chemistry between Woody
Harrelson and Wesney Snipes is very good, but the script for this
movie is really bad (especially for the Robert Blake character)  My
friend and I both looked at each other and laughed at some of the
lines that were *not* supposed to be funny.  You must suspend belief
on more than one occassion.
52.1724ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Nov 30 1995 13:493
    
    <<------   thanks for the crab stuffed chicken breast Chris.
    Harumph
52.1725POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Nov 30 1995 13:541
    You chose to drink American beer and watch football so don't complain.
52.1726ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Nov 30 1995 14:093
    
    <---   Well !joan said you didn't have beer or Tv, so what was I to
    do, mr. personality!
52.1727POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Nov 30 1995 14:142
        Hop on a plane to TO and find proof as to whether or not he was lying,
    so that you could know for certain what the truth is.
52.1728ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Nov 30 1995 14:204
    
    well next year I will just have to do that, plus I want to see for
    myself, what a great cook Chris is. of course, Toronto will not be
    the same when I leave.
52.1729POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Nov 30 1995 14:211
        <Insert Topazian slight here>
52.1730TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisit's tummy time!Thu Nov 30 1995 14:267
>>>     <---   Well !joan said you didn't have beer or Tv, so what was I to


!joan - you lie, why do you lie?  I distinctly remember some of Glen's
homemade brew being consumed and there was a tv, just not turned on!
Now the pressure is on me to think of something else to serve next
year - the crab stuffed chicken is one of my highlights!
52.1731WAHOO::LEVESQUEsmooth, fast, bright and playfulThu Nov 30 1995 14:302
    Perhaps you'll have to make a break for a more interesting fowl; then
    again you could always wow 'em with a rack of lamb...
52.1732ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Nov 30 1995 14:342
    
    why doc, gene won't be there. :-)
52.1733POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Nov 30 1995 14:342
    I'll bet you could make a mean chicken cordon bleu next time. As
    opposed to a friendly one.
52.1734"Mutton, what the hell is mutton?"TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::Chrisit's tummy time!Thu Nov 30 1995 14:352
Lamb was my 1st choice.... I love lamb.  However, I offered up menu
choices to the others and it did not seem to be a fav. 
52.1735POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Nov 30 1995 14:371
    Beware of Mutton Cadets.
52.1736ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Nov 30 1995 14:382
    
    and bidets
52.1737ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Nov 30 1995 14:484
    
    I need to know one thing, well ok, two things. Did mz_debra drink
    any IPA's?? also, were debra and any, say, Rodeo's to be spotted
    together????
52.1738A ventriloquist could be fun in a restaurantDECWIN::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoThu Nov 30 1995 15:1613
>> Lamb was my 1st choice.... I love lamb.
    
    That reminds me, Shari Lewis says that she likes to rattle waiters
    in restaurants by ordering lamb, particularly lamb chops if they're
    on the menu.
    
    In case Shari Lewis is not internationally known, she's an excellent
    ventriloquist, puppeteer and performer whose most famous puppet is
    a cute & cuddly little lamb named Lamb Chop.  She also co-wrote a
    perfectly awful episode of the original Star Trek series, but I'll
    forgive her for that misadventure.  :-)
    
    Chris
52.1739WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Nov 30 1995 15:461
    -1 The Trouble With Tribbles?
52.1740CALLME::MR_TOPAZThu Nov 30 1995 15:514
       While I surely thank each of for continuing to share the
       edge-of-the-seat excitement of your lives, I would respectfully
       ask that you pause for just a moment so that we, The Readership,
       can catch our collective breath.
52.1741Mira Romaine let usDECWIN::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoThu Nov 30 1995 15:5422
    >> -1 The Trouble With Tribbles?
    
    Heck no, that was great!  :-)
    
    If I'm remembering correctly, Shari co-wrote "The Lights of Zetar",
    which featured at least the following silliness:
    
    1.  Scotty falling head over heels for a bookish librarian type.
    2.  Aliens that look like colored flash bulbs popping in mid-air
    3.  These aliens "possess" you, make your skin turn psychedelic
        colors, and turn your voice into a low electronic croaking
        sound
    4.  These aliens can be driven out of your body by sticking you
        in a decompression chamber that was obviously left over from
        "Sea Hunt".
    5.  Scotty getting snarled at and attacked by the possessed
        librarian, just off-screen for some reason.
    6.  Others that I wish I could think of, but it's too painful! :-)
    
    Of course, if I've remembered the wrong episode... never mind!
    
    Chris
52.1742BUSY::SLABOUNTYBuzzword BingoThu Nov 30 1995 16:049
    >                <<< Note 52.1740 by CALLME::MR_TOPAZ >>>
>
>       While I surely thank each of for continuing to share the
    
    
    	Hmmm ... I wasn't aware we had any "of's" here.
    
    	Care to describe them, so I can identify them if I see them?
    
52.1743MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalThu Nov 30 1995 16:093
    WE ONLY WANT...THE GIRL.
    
    Some girl!
52.1744SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Thu Nov 30 1995 16:113
    Yeah, Shari Lewis had a hand in "The Lights of Zetar."  Unquestionably
    the second-worst episode of TOS, the worst being "Spock's Brain." 
    David Gerrold wrote "The Trouble with Tribbles."
52.1745Doh!DECWIN::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoThu Nov 30 1995 16:155
    >> -1 The Trouble With Tribbles?
    
    Argh!  I just got this.  My apologies for being so slow today... :-)
    
    Chris
52.1746WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Nov 30 1995 17:011
    no problem. i they they were a bunch of lambchops that got fluff-dried!
52.1747POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tummy TimeThu Nov 30 1995 18:0810
    
    .1737
    
    I believe I did drink some IPAs, along with some red wine and some
    maple beer (which was completely yummy).
    
    Also, since I drove to TO, there WAS a Rodeo there with me.  So, the
    answers to your questions are yes.
    
    
52.1748TROOA::COLLINSRoboBar: The Future Of HospitalityThu Nov 30 1995 18:095
    
    .1726
    
    It was unfair of me to have lied to you.
    
52.1749ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckThu Nov 30 1995 18:145
    
    <---- great, now you tell me. I could have been drinking some IPA's,
    hanging out with cool people, but, no I was stuck in Chicago drinking
    Miller Genuine Drafts and watching the cat spin in the dryer, you
    should be ashamed of yourself. Harumph
52.1750TKTVFS::NEMOTOno facts, only interpretationsFri Dec 01 1995 11:196
Gozila, the giant monster given its birth from nuclear power in 1954, 
will die in the movie comming soon. 

Good bye - you may be reborn in Hollywood.

52.1751WAHOO::LEVESQUEsmooth, fast, bright and playfulFri Dec 01 1995 11:211
    Godzilla is dead; long live Godzilla!
52.1752TROOA::COLLINSRoboBar: The Future Of HospitalityFri Dec 01 1995 11:243
    
    "Gamera would never hurt a child!"
    
52.1753TKTVFS::NEMOTOno facts, only interpretationsFri Dec 01 1995 11:503
Satsuma, who dressed up in the monster costume in the movies for the past 
11 years, felt deep sorry when he was told his long good partner would die.

52.1754BIGQ::SILVADiabloFri Dec 01 1995 12:423
    
	Gamera's best friend was Jonny Soco!    

52.1755SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIif u cn rd ths, u nd to gt a lyfFri Dec 01 1995 12:437
    
    re: .1747
    
    > I believe I did drink some IPAs, along with some red wine and some
    >maple beer (which was completely yummy).
    
    How's them pearly whites???
52.1756CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri Dec 01 1995 12:501
    Mothraaaaaaa! Mothraaaaaa!  
52.1757Demi and Donald crushed by falling chandelier - betterMOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Sun Dec 03 1995 23:5515
Movies watched this weekend for some odd reason - I haven't rented a movie
in quite some time - Out of 5:

	Startrek:Generations  -2
	Nell		      +3
	Disclosure	      +4

I would have given Disclosure a 5, but, as with most Crichton tales, I was
edge-sitting right up until about 10% before the blah ending. For a change,
I hadn't read the book first - don't know whether that was good or bad.

It's become my opinion that Michael and Steven King ought to concentrate on
whether or not they've got a grabber ending before they start writing from
now on. A good story with a limp ending really pisses me off.

52.1758ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Dec 04 1995 12:062
    Watched Lion King over the weekend.  It was quite entertaining-
    especially once Mr. Pig showed up.  
52.1759BIGQ::SILVADiabloMon Dec 04 1995 12:496
| <<< Note 52.1757 by MOLAR::DELBALSO "I (spade) my (dogface)" >>>


| A good story with a limp ending really pisses me off.

	Isn't that the ending of most porn flicks? :-)
52.1760CSC32::M_EVANSruns with scissorsMon Dec 04 1995 15:263
    Trying to gird myself to either take the kids to "babe" or "Toy Story" 
    After hearing Lolita's review of Babe, I think Toy Story will be a
    better bet.  
52.1761BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansMon Dec 04 1995 15:286
    "Toy Story" is cool, Meg.
    
    It's good for kids *and* grownups.
    
    (For example, I liked it when they showed the Realtor's sign on the
    house:  "Virtual Realty".)  ar ar ar :)
52.1762CSC32::M_EVANSruns with scissorsMon Dec 04 1995 15:486
    thanks Suzanne,
    
    I do try to do one movie with the kiddies a year around the holidays. 
    Usually I avoid them like the plague movie houses are.
    
    meg
52.1763MPGS::MARKEYnow 90% fulla gadinkydustMon Dec 04 1995 16:1612
    
    Toy story is the ballz!!!!!
    
    Best scene is when Mr. Potato Head (voice characterization by
    Don Rickles) is listening to the cowboy suck up to the space
    ranger character, so he pulls his lips off and starts pressing
    them against his ass...
    
    SEE THIS MOVIE. AND DON'T BE A WHINEY-ASSED SNOB. LAUGH. ENJOY.
    AND THEN HAVE ENOUGH NADS TO COME IN HERE AND ADMIT YOU DID!!!!
    
    -b
52.1764Definitely a good one...DOCTP::KELLERHarry Browne For President 1996Mon Dec 04 1995 16:5510
    We took the boys to see Toy Story yesterday and it was definitely very
    cute.  Our enjoyment was marred by horrible sound problems for the
    first half of the movie but all of us enjoyed ourselves very much.
    
    The most memorable thing about the movie was that in a whole theater
    filled with kids you could have heard a pin drop, except for the parts
    where one was meant to laugh.  Everyone in the theater was completely
    engrossed in the movie.
    
    --Geoff
52.1765The scenes with the 'mutant' toys next door were poignant.BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansMon Dec 04 1995 18:2612
    RE: .1764  
    
    / The most memorable thing about the movie was that in a whole theater
    / filled with kids you could have heard a pin drop, except for the parts
    / where one was meant to laugh.  Everyone in the theater was completely
    / engrossed in the movie.
    
    The same thing happened in the movie theater where we went to see it
    yesterday!!
    
    The kids watched this movie very intently and were very quiet (except
    during the parts when everyone laughed.)  The theater was packed, too.
52.1766CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenWed Dec 06 1995 12:207
    The Adventures of Baron Munchausen was on Bravo the other night.  I
    enjoyed it again for the third or fourth time.  A neat story IMO,
    suitable for family viewing but unfortunately one that chidren will 
    never really get to experience with the Disney hype.  The underlying
    themes are great.  I enjoyed Time Bandits more (same folks sort of) but
    still enjoyable.
    
52.1767GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedWed Dec 06 1995 12:256
    
    
    
    Toy Story was neat.  Took the kids Monday night.  There were subtle
    humorous things that were directed at the adults and went right over
    the kids heads.
52.1768HIGHD::FLATMANGive2TheMegan&amp;KennethCollegeFundWed Dec 06 1995 14:596
    It's been years since I've seen Baron (von?) Muchausen.  One question
    in regards to "suitable for family viewing", don't they have a scene
    with immitating _Venus_de_Milo_?  I don't remember if that part was
    "suitable for family viewing".

    -- Dave
52.1769DYPSS1::COGHILLSteve Coghill, Luke 14:28Wed Dec 06 1995 15:025
   As I recall, all we see of Uma is bare legs and shoulders. 
   
   Is the 1930s German production of this story available anywhere in
   the U.S.?  I've seen snippets of it on various cable channels, and it
   looks interesting.
52.1770MPGS::MARKEYNo thanks, I already don't have oneWed Dec 06 1995 15:409
    
    My favorite silly part of Baron Munchhausen: The sheik's performance
    of "Torturer's Apprentice".

    	AH! OHHH! AH! OUCH! AH!

    Wonderful stuff.

    -b
52.1771CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenWed Dec 06 1995 16:207
    Umma on the half shell shows the briefest of brief glimpses of one
    breastal unit.  Nothing to get all worked up over.  No really bad  
    language, only one really adult content scene with Robin Williams as 
    the King of the Moon tickling his wife's feet.  A good tale of the
    fantastic and the absurd.  I too liked the scene with the Grand Turk.
    
    Brian
52.1772SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Thu Dec 07 1995 16:091
    You folks ever read the book of von Munchausen?  It's quite amusing.
52.1773SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Thu Dec 07 1995 16:207
    
    
    Does anyone know if "A Christmas Carol" (or whatever the real title
    is), starring George C. Scott will be shown sometime this Dec.?
    
     I remember seeing it in it's first year of showing and found the
    adaptation quite good...
52.1774SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Mon Dec 11 1995 15:5910
    .1773
    
    I don't know if it'll be shown on the teevee, but you can buy a copy of
    the tape for under $15.00.  I got mine at Tower in Burlington, but you
    can probably also find it at Suncoast.
    
    Trivia:  Didja know that the George C. Scott version of "A Christmas
    Carol" was filmed entirely on location in Shrewsbury...
    
    ...England.
52.1775DASHER::RALSTONscrewiti'mgoinhome..Mon Dec 11 1995 16:363
    Three cheers for Ebinezer Scrooge, Bob C was a whining wimp!
    
    Bah, humbug!  :)
52.1776SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Mon Dec 11 1995 16:461
    Ebenezer.  NNTTM.
52.1777Re: .1774:TROOA::COLLINSDon't do what Donny Don't does!Mon Dec 11 1995 17:163
    
    Did you know that I've *been* to Shrewsbury, England?
    
52.1778MPGS::MARKEYI'm feeling ANSI and ISOlatedMon Dec 11 1995 17:179
    
    Hey, I *live* and *work* in Shrewsbury...
    
    	
    
    
    	Massachusetts.       
    
    -b
52.1779ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroMon Dec 11 1995 19:285
    
    .1778
    
    -b, thank you for sharing that little bit of useless trivia with us
    all. Our dull collective readership is eternally in your favor.
52.1780GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedMon Dec 11 1995 19:304
    
    
    
    Cripes, it looks like Battis is auditioning for the role of Topaz....
52.1781;pLANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Wed Dec 13 1995 12:472
    "Nixon" with Tony Hopkins looks real good in the previews.
    I can't wait to see it.  He was my favorite president.
52.1782ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroWed Dec 13 1995 13:335
    
    I always like "tricky" Dick myself, Oph. We share a few things in
    common, such as our birthdays, and we both lived in Whittier CA at
    the same time. He was a congrssman then. I however never became
    president, like he did.
52.1783TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterWed Dec 13 1995 13:375
    
    .1782
    
    NOBODY ever became President like Nixon did.  :^)
    
52.1784LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Wed Dec 13 1995 14:204
    i remember the day nixon resigned.  i was living and working
    in provincetown for the summah.  the whole experience of watching
    him on TV - it had such an unreal quality to it.  plus the fact
    that people were literally dancing and celebrating in the streets.  
52.1785MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Dec 13 1995 14:232
Just another day in P-town, eh?

52.1786MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalWed Dec 13 1995 14:234
 ZZ   hat people were literally dancing and celebrating in the streets.  
    
    Yes, I have no doubt the lunatics were jumping up and down!  The
    question is WHY?
52.1787LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Wed Dec 13 1995 14:281
    the word catharsis comes to mind.
52.1788Sock it to... me?DECWIN::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoWed Dec 13 1995 14:5816
    For me, the actual resignation was anticlimactic and disappointing. I'd
    desperately wanted him to resign, but somehow my blood lust or whatever
    you'd like to call it remained unslaked.  Looking back on my irrational
    youthful rage :-), I probably wouldn't have been satisfied until I saw
    assorted Nixonian limbs and body parts being dragged and shaken up and
    down the Congressional aisles by packs of wild dogs and/or drooling
    Congresscritters, which are pretty much identical anyway.
    
    Many unanswered questions remain about this matter for me, not the
    least of which is the highly suspicious timing of Agnew's downfall,
    to be replaced by one of the head Congresscritters, thus essentially
    sealing Nixon's fate.  Because if Agnew had remained as the eager
    Presidential understudy, Congress probably never would have gone after
    Nixon to the point of impeachment/resignation.
    
    Chris
52.1789WAHOO::LEVESQUEsmooth, fast, bright and playfulWed Dec 13 1995 15:005
    No doubt if the truth behind all of the Clinton allegations were laid
    bare, and the result was that Clinton & Co were sent back to Little
    Rock in disgrace, a large number of people would find cause to
    celebrate. I doubt anyone would call it catharsis; more likely it
    would called vindication.
52.1790GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedWed Dec 13 1995 15:017
    
    
    I wonder how many people will take this movie as a totally factual
    account of Nixon and will use this as their only resource with regards
    to Nixon.
    
    Mike
52.1791GUMDRP::MARKEYI'm feeling ANSI and ISOlatedWed Dec 13 1995 15:1614
    
    I was entering my junior year in high school at the time Nixon
    resigned. I followed the hearings leading up to the resignation
    quite closely. I saw it then, and I see it now, as a game of
    political destruction by the Democrats.

    I never had much use for Nixon, particularly after Watergate,
    but watching the Democratic power machine at work, the same
    power machine that let LBJ and Ted Kennedy skate, solidified
    a seething hatred of that party that will never go away.

    August 8 1974.                                  

    -b
52.1792LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Wed Dec 13 1995 15:4113
    .1789
    
    |I doubt anyone would call it catharsis; more likely it
    |would called vindication.
    
    yeah, nixon's resignation was a vindication as well as a
    catharsis.  mark, tell me.  why, like a dog of Pavlov's,
    do you immediately bring Clinton into the subject of 
    Nixon?  is it something you just can't help?
    
    as stanley kowalski would say:  nixon's future was mapped
    out for him long before he became president.  he finally
    self-destructed is all.
52.1793SMURF::WALTERSWed Dec 13 1995 15:455
    The way I read it, John Anderson, leader of the house Republicans told
    Nixon's staff that Nixon must hand over the tapes.  Plus,  Joe Public
    was sending thirty thousand telegrams per day to the White House
    demanding his resignation.  Many came from outraged registered
    Republicans. This issue transcended party politics.
52.1794and TT if it doesn'tWAHOO::LEVESQUEsmooth, fast, bright and playfulWed Dec 13 1995 15:538
    >mark, tell me.  why, like a dog of Pavlov's,
    >do you immediately bring Clinton into the subject of Nixon?  
    
     Jack Martin made a comment about the people "dancing in the streets"
    over Nixon's resignation being "lunatics." My response was that there
    would be people dancing in the streets if we got rid of Clinton as a
    result of his misdeeds, implying that something other than lunacy was
    the cause of the "dancing in the streets." /hth
52.1795LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Wed Dec 13 1995 16:005
    |/hth
    
    not much.  i can't help it if people were dancing in the streets,
    just as jack can't help being a lunatic.  i was simply reporting 
    what i saw.
52.1796MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalWed Dec 13 1995 16:041
    I resemble that!
52.1797history according to hollywood...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseWed Dec 13 1995 16:397
    
      Stone makes "history" pictures in which he makes up the history.
    
      The JFK one was actually not bad fiction, but as history it broke
     my twaddle indicator.
    
      bb
52.1798LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Wed Dec 13 1995 16:474
    i don't care for oliver stone's past stuff...but the rumor
    is that he's maturing into a better director and no longer
    see things as black/white, on/off, dem/rep, etc.  after all,
    stone is fifty now!  maturity may have kicked in!
52.1799MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalWed Dec 13 1995 16:481
    You just have a fetish about the name Oliver.
52.1800LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Wed Dec 13 1995 16:581
    oliver snarf.
52.1801DEVLPR::DKILLORANNo Compromise on FreedomWed Dec 13 1995 18:155
    
    > ...after all, stone is fifty now!  maturity may have kicked in!

    hasn't seemed to have helped Senator Kennedy...

52.1802maturity, that is.LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Wed Dec 13 1995 18:211
    alas, dan.  for some it never kicks in.
52.1803BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Wed Dec 13 1995 18:223

	I think he is talking about Stone Phillips... or he ought to be:-)
52.1804SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Wed Dec 13 1995 20:297
    .1788
    
    I *NEVER* wanted the S-O-B to resign.  I *DESPERATELY* wanted to see
    him impeached by the House and then tried and convicted by the Senate. 
    That would have been proof that the Congress had some cojones.  But
    they diddled and fiddled and let him slither out of it like the snake
    that he was.
52.1805IMOSTOWOA::PJOHNSONaut disce, aut discedeWed Dec 13 1995 20:4613
I demonstrated for his impeachment during the Cambodian incursion and
Kent State affair, and all the other things that we ascribed to him,
personally, at the time.

In retrospect, though, (and I won't be around to see it, but) I think
he'll go down as one of the great presidents, adept at foreign affairs
when the literal survival of the globe needed it. Watergate was a blip
in the grand scheme of things.

I don't base this on exhaustive study, just on broad recollections and
retrospection.

Pete
52.1806USAT05::SANDERRThu Dec 14 1995 00:503
    tricky's birthaday wa smine too, Mark.
    
    NR
52.1807 CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitThu Dec 14 1995 10:464
    Murder in the First is a great film.
    
    Oscar type performance from the Bacon lad.
    
52.1808SMURF::WALTERSThu Dec 14 1995 11:3126
    
>    Watergate was a blip in the grand scheme of things.
    
    Eh?  Watergate resulted in the establishment of precedent for one of
    the most important principles of law for any governmental system.  That
    is that the "King" is not above the law".   This had never been
    established in US law.
    
    If the courts had been unable to force Nixon into compliance by rule of
    law, as it had been unable to do in previous cases against US
    presidents then any later prez would be able to get away with the
    same crap.
    
    For example, if Congress denied Clinton support for the Bosnian
    foray, and Clinton did it anyway, Congress could invoke the war powers
    act 60 days after the insertion of forces and use the courts to make
    Clinton extract the troops.  Clinton's ability to declare executive
    privs is constrained by the precedent.  (A scenario that is also
    playing out in the Whitewater affair, as the White house tries to keep
    legal papers secret.)
    
    Wasn't the he War Powers Act was instituted during Nixon's term and as
    a result of his policies?  If so, it's a nice historical turn.
    
    Colin
    
52.1809BARSTR::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Thu Dec 14 1995 11:3610
    
    agreed, "murder in the first" was a good flick.
    
    finally saw "the lion king" last weekend.  and if i looked really hard,
    i could imagine that i saw something that really wasn't there that i
    would have never even noticed had i not been tipped off about it.  in
    fact, i had originally forgotten all about it and never noticed it...so
    after it was over, i went back looking for it and i think i saw it...
    
    
52.1810TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterThu Dec 14 1995 11:437
    
    I saw `Shallow Grave' last night.  Wow.  Far and away one of the best
    (and most disturbing) movies I've seen in a *long* time.
    
    Interesting tidbit...I noticed from the credits that the screenplay was
    written by the same guy who played the younger cop.
    
52.1811SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Thu Dec 14 1995 11:478
    
    
    Saw "Crimson Tide" this past weekend.... pretty good flick all around
    except for a few minor "poetic license" stuff...
    
    What pissed me off was the idiotic attempt to bring bigotry into the
    picture viz. the two main characters...
    
52.1812ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroThu Dec 14 1995 12:307
    
    .1806
    
    well not roger, get thee to topic 249 and have the lager lout update
    the birthday list.
    
    Mark
52.1813doubtfulGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseThu Dec 14 1995 12:316
    
      It's never been tested, but I think the War Powers Act might well
     be unconstitutional.  Close call.  What do you understand by the
     term "Commander in Chief" ?
    
      bb<
52.1814SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment uescimur.Thu Dec 14 1995 13:036
    .1813
    
    Commander in Chief of the military.  But the President is OUR employee;
    We the People, being his/her boss, have the right to order our employee
    to remove other employees who are under his/her command from a war zone
    and the Congress is the agent we use to enforce such orders.
52.1815Operational commander, not totalitarian warmakerDECWIN::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoThu Dec 14 1995 13:2727
     >> What do you understand by the term "Commander in Chief" ?
    
    That really is the central issue, and unfortunately it's open
    to interpretation.  I've always interpreted it in operational terms:
    Once Congress has declared war (as stated in the Constitution),
    the President takes the role of commanding the troops in the
    execution of said war.
    
    This is very different from the President getting us into the war
    into the first place.  The President, as Commander in Chief, is to
    me like the "Top General" guy.  Generals don't get us into wars, but
    they do command the military operation once the decision is made to
    deploy the troops.
    
    Particularly in this day and age, it's extremely dangerous to place
    the power of our military machine in the hands of ONE man, and I don't
    care who the particular man is.  Aside from nuclear emergencies in
    which minutes are critical, the power to deploy our troops into
    "conventional" war situations should rest solely with Congress where
    it can be debated in public view.
    
    After all, it is our families and friends who are being sent to die.
    There should be some debate and accountability, and it should be a
    decision made by a group of people as opposed to one man with an
    agenda.
    
    Chris
52.1816SMURF::WALTERSThu Dec 14 1995 13:5215
    
    >  It's never been tested, but I think the War Powers Act might well
    > be unconstitutional.  Close call.  What do you understand by the
    > term "Commander in Chief" ?
    
    Agreed, there's no telling which way the court would go, but at least
    there's less doubt that the president would have to submit to a
    decision that did not go his (or her) way.
    
    Anyways, I guess the news indicates that Whitewater notes might turn
    out to be a replay of the Nixon tapes.  This could get very
    interesting.
    
    Colin
    
52.1817BUSY::SLABOUNTYAlways a Best Man, never a groomThu Dec 14 1995 15:137
    
    	What'd you see in "The Lion King", Raq?
    
    	"Sex" in the clouds?
    
    	[Haven't seen the movie, so I can't comment.]
    
52.1818SMURF::WALTERSThu Dec 14 1995 15:161
    Must be one of those flying forks that Di was on about.
52.1819BARSTR::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Thu Dec 14 1995 15:464
    it wasn't clouds, but a 'poof' of dust that arose when simba flopped
    depressingly on the ground...
    
    
52.1820UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonThu Dec 14 1995 17:1311
>    it wasn't clouds, but a 'poof' of dust that arose when simba flopped
>    depressingly on the ground...
    
Is this the adult-simba we are talking about here? Is this the "flop" which
causes Old Rafika(sp?) to realize Simba is alive?

/scott

p.s. and what is seen in this "poof" of dust???
    

52.1821BARSTR::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Thu Dec 14 1995 17:338
    
    yes scott...it's right after he and timon and pumba discuss what those
    twinkling white things are in the sky.  he saunters off and flops near
    the edge of a cliff and dust floats up.  if you look *real* hard, you
    can see the letters 's' 'e' 'x' misformed in the dust.  or at least
    that is what some disney-boycotters are shouting about...
    
    
52.1822SMURF::WALTERSThu Dec 14 1995 17:365
    > disney-boycotters are shouting about...
    
    As Timon aptly says in the same scene:
    
    	"Pumba, with you, everything is gas"
52.1823LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Thu Dec 14 1995 17:431
    hakuna matata!!
52.1824EST::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQFri Dec 15 1995 18:333
The wife and I also saw "Crimson Tide" recently. We couldn't figure out who
was supposed to be the hero and the villian. We both thought the XO was way
out of line.
52.1825TKTVFS::NEMOTOno facts, only interpretationsTue Dec 19 1995 00:042
I couldn't find Whoopi in the EBONY magazine of its 50s edition.  How come?
52.1826ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroTue Dec 19 1995 12:032
    
    <<-------   try Hustler magazine. hth
52.1827BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Tue Dec 19 1995 12:214

	I saw Sabrina, last night. Very good movie. The one person I was most
surprised with was Greg Kinear. Very good acting by everyone.
52.1828GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Tue Dec 19 1995 20:044
We saw "Babe" on the weekend.  It was _reaaally_ nice.  
I liked the duck.

\C
52.1829POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerTue Dec 19 1995 21:192
    I watched "Ethel The Aardvark Goes Quantity Surveying". The book is
    better.
52.1830TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterWed Dec 20 1995 00:334
    
    I liked `Train Spotters In Love', with Hugh Grant 
    and Helena Bonham-Carter.
    
52.1831TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterWed Dec 20 1995 01:073
    
    `Our Friend, the Harmless Spider', dir. by James Cameron
    
52.1832GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Wed Dec 20 1995 01:295
aaaaargggh - they're everywhere!




52.1834USAT05::SANDERRWed Dec 20 1995 09:041
    take the little one down to the local Spiders R US store...
52.1835ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroWed Dec 20 1995 11:353
    
    well Chele, I guess you won't be watching Aracnophobia, in the near
    future?
52.1836POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tummy TimeWed Dec 20 1995 14:515
    
    "Nuns On The Run" was on Channel 56 last night.  Even with bits cut,
    it's still a funny movie.
    
    
52.183743GMC::KEITHDr. DeuceWed Dec 20 1995 15:223
    Yea, I was waiting for 'that' shower scene. They cut it...
    
    It is a cute movie though...
52.1838GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Wed Dec 20 1995 20:224
I will _not_ be seeing arachnophobia - not even if the "stars" disguise 
themselves as penguins...


52.1839BUSY::SLABOUNTYCan you hear the drums, Fernando?Wed Dec 20 1995 20:345
    
    	Oh, but Harley Jane Kozak is in it, and she's a babe.
    
    	But I guess that probably doesn't do much for you, does it?
    
52.1840GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Wed Dec 20 1995 20:593
Who? and why this 'box pre-occupation with infants?
    
\C
52.1841MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Dec 20 1995 21:4611
I caught a good one on American Movie Classic this afternoon.

An old B&W from the late 40's starring Cary Grant, Irene Dunne and Randolph
Scott, called "My Favorite Wife". A very funny film which I hadn't seen before.

I like that station. Some may think that the old movies are sappy and not
worth watching, however I'd have to disagree. I get a lot of enjoyment
from their offerings.

If anyone cares, it will be shown again at 6:30 on Christmas Eve.

52.1842HIGHD::FLATMANGive2TheMegan&amp;KennethCollegeFundWed Dec 20 1995 21:5512
    My wife and I caught Ben Hur recently and that jogged my memory of
    another MGM(?) film that I saw several years ago at the MGM theater in
    Las Vegas before the casino burned.  

    The film was color and roughly the same vintage as Ben Hur.  The only
    parts that I remember was that Nero was emperor and there was a
    gladiator scene where a woman and her relatively large household
    servant were thrown into the areana against a bull.  Anyone have a clue
    which movie it was?  (There may have been a massive crucifiction at the
    end.)

    -- Dave
52.1843Otherwise /john will add it to the Unitarian songMOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Dec 20 1995 23:432
crucifiXion

52.1844POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Dec 21 1995 01:211
    Sounds like Sparticus to me.
52.1845DRDAN::KALIKOWDIGITAL=DEC; Reclaim the Name&amp;Glory!Thu Dec 21 1995 01:452
    'zat the movie about Sparta, and all the soljas were called Sparticles?
    
52.1846USAT05::SANDERRThu Dec 21 1995 09:193
    Cheaper by the Dozen
    
    funnier than the last time I saw it 15 yrs ago
52.1847ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroThu Dec 21 1995 11:332
    
    Sparticus, starring Kirk Douglas. 
52.1848SMURF::WALTERSThu Dec 21 1995 11:342
    Saw "French Kiss" last night and enjoyed it.  Kline did a great job as
    a frog and Meg Ryan played Meg Ryan.
52.1849CRONIC::BOURGOINEThu Dec 21 1995 12:096

		The Fly was on last night.  

	
				blllluurrrp.....
52.1850SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Thu Dec 21 1995 12:187
    
    
    >The Fly was on last night.
    
    
    
    On what?? Your food??
52.1851POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Dec 21 1995 12:571
    My fly was open last night.
52.1852ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroThu Dec 21 1995 13:082
    
    <---- that tse-tse little thing.
52.1853Wasn't SparticusHIGHD::FLATMANGive2TheMegan&amp;KennethCollegeFundThu Dec 21 1995 14:597
>    Sounds like Sparticus to me.

    It wasn't Sparticus.  First off, I don't think Kirk Douglas was in it. 
    Second, Sparticus' crucifiXions were along a road.  The movie I'm
    looking for had the crucifiXions in the gladiators' arena.

    -- Dave
52.1854NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Dec 21 1995 15:011
SpartAcus.  nnttm.
52.1855WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Dec 21 1995 16:531
    re; fly open... small wonder!
52.1856POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Dec 21 1995 17:041
    Oh, that hurt me so! I feel so inadequate now. 8^/
52.1857WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Dec 21 1995 17:211
    -1 you'll be okay  :-)
52.1858TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterThu Dec 21 1995 17:243
    
    Not only "okay", but also "alright".
    
52.1859POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Dec 21 1995 17:261
    What are you trying to get at?
52.1860BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Thu Dec 21 1995 17:305
| <<< Note 52.1859 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "CPU Cycler" >>>

| What are you trying to get at?

	Wow.... what a loaded question!
52.1861TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterThu Dec 21 1995 17:315
    
    .1859
    
    Only that a preposition is a terrible thing to end a sentence with.
    
52.1862ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroThu Dec 21 1995 17:412
    
    a mind is a terrible thing to waste. Glenn has nothing to worry about.
52.1863prepositional nibblePOWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tummy TimeThu Dec 21 1995 17:5314
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           .adAMMMb.   .dAMMMAbn.
        .adAWWWWWWWWWAuAWWWWWWWWWWAbn.
     .adWWW__|   |__|__|__|__|   |_WWWbn.
    dMMMM     \_/	      \_/   MMMMMb
 ..adMM	       _               _        MMbn..
    dMMMM  __ /	\ __ __ __ ___/ \___MMMMMb
     "~^YUM  |   |  |  |  |  |   | MUP^~"
          "~^PMMMdMAbammdAMMMMMMP^~"
              "^UMMMMMMMMMMMMU^"   
               "^Y^YUWWWWUP^"
         
          
52.1864{simper}ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroThu Dec 21 1995 17:531
    
52.1865BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Thu Dec 21 1995 19:583

	I always get a pleasure at seeing Deb's puuuuurfect teeth. :-)
52.1866POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerFri Dec 22 1995 02:361
    I know what you mean.
52.1867MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Dec 22 1995 02:382
Oh get a room, willya?

52.1868POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerFri Dec 22 1995 02:411
    I have.
52.1869BIGQ::SILVAEAT, Pappa, EAT!Fri Dec 22 1995 12:261
siskle and ebert at the movies 69 snarf!
52.1870SMURF::WALTERSFri Dec 22 1995 12:291
    < two bums up?
52.1871WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Dec 22 1995 12:341
    -1 Bwahahahahahahahahaha!
52.1872POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerSat Dec 23 1995 18:473
    bumbs.
    
    nnttm
52.1873POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerSat Dec 23 1995 18:471
    I sawer Species the other night. I liked it.
52.1874It exceeded my expectationsTROOA::BUTKOVICHit's tummy time!Tue Dec 26 1995 19:302
    Just finished watching "An American in Paris" - what a great movie.
    That Gene Kelly sure was one hot babe!  Great set of pipes, IMHO.
52.1875TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterWed Dec 27 1995 15:5611
    
    I rented, and was disappointed by, Michael Moore's `Canadian Bacon'.
    
    A well-intentioned, but simple and obvious farce.
    
    I am quivering with antici...
    
    
    
    ...pation over Terry Gilliam's new movie, `12 Monkeys'.
    
52.1876ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroWed Dec 27 1995 16:572
    
    Is he going to be doing a sequel !joan?? " Spanking the Monkey"
52.1877TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterWed Dec 27 1995 16:595
    
    There's already a movie called `Spanking The Monkey'.
    
    (betcha dint no that, Mark! ;^)
    
52.1878TROOA::BUTKOVICHit's tummy time!Wed Dec 27 1995 17:416
    <---  I saw that movie at the film festival a couple of years ago.
    Strange indeed.  And "12 Monkeys" rec'd 5 out of 5 stars in today's
    paper - too bad it's only playing at one theatre (which is not exactly
    easy for me to get to).  I saw "Cutthroat Island" yesterday - pretty
    good and some amazing stunts and explosions etc. I bet it cost a
    fortune to make.
52.1879MPGS::MARKEYI'm feeling ANSI and ISOlatedWed Dec 27 1995 17:437
    
    > I bet it cost a fortune to make.
    
    $70 million. And on its opening weekend, only took in $2.5
    million. I smell box-office bomb.
    
    -b                                              
52.1880CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeWed Dec 27 1995 17:5213


 So the amount of money a movie makes in a weekend tells us how good
 the movie is?


 (rhetorical question)




 
52.1881USAT02::SANDERRWed Dec 27 1995 17:544
    Saw "Grumpier Old Men last night with the wif..Burgess Meredith really
    steals the show...funnier than Grumpy Od Men, imho
    
    NR
52.1882BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityWed Dec 27 1995 17:563

	He's still alive? WOW!
52.1883MPGS::MARKEYI'm feeling ANSI and ISOlatedWed Dec 27 1995 18:019
    > So the amount of money a movie makes in a weekend tells us how good
    > the movie is?
    
    Reading comprehension, Jim! I said I smell a BOX OFFICE bomb.
    I do not think the movie will perform well at the BOX OFFICE,
    since a movie's first weekend is generally the best... at
    least for well-hyped major studio releases.
    
    -b                    
52.1884GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedWed Dec 27 1995 18:026
    
    
    Not Roger,
    
    
    So, you saw the story of yer life the other night, eh?
52.1885BUSY::SLABOUNTYBuzzword BingoWed Dec 27 1995 18:0311
    
 >So the amount of money a movie makes in a weekend tells us how good
 >the movie is?
    
    	When you consider that the 1st weekend after release is usually
    	the highest-grossing period for that movie, then you can figure
    	out how well a movie is going to do just by these numbers.  Doesn't
    	tell you how good the movie is, no ... but Brian didn't say that.
    	"Box-office bomb" has nothing to do with quality and everything to
    	do with finances.
    
52.1886BUSY::SLABOUNTYBuzzword BingoWed Dec 27 1995 18:043
    
    	Sorry, Brian ... took me a minute or 2 to enter that.
    
52.1887CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeWed Dec 27 1995 18:118

 sorry boys..guess my reading comp circuits have been disabled




 Jim
52.1888BUSY::SLABOUNTYWhy don't you bend for gold?Wed Dec 27 1995 18:134
    
    	Try powering down and then powering back up ... solves 90% of
    	all problems, Jim.
    
52.1889CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeWed Dec 27 1995 18:2311



 I believe it is a result of too much lunch and I'm a little on the
 sleepy side.




 Jim
52.1890BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityWed Dec 27 1995 18:281
beginning of the gay 90's snarf! AND, 100 years before I came out!
52.1891ALFSS1::CIAROCHIOne Less DogWed Dec 27 1995 18:3112
    Having a little to do with movie exhibition, I can state that yes, how
    much money a movie makes in a weekend has a lot to do with how good it
    is.
    
    F'rinstance, many major theater chains did not carry Forrest Gump at
    first because movie buyers did not think it was very good.  After the
    first couple of dozen millions of dollars, it got a lot better.
    
    And I'm sure there are a few movies that were thought to be very good
    that made video in a couple of weeks.
    
    Money talks.
52.1892BUSY::SLABOUNTYWhy don't you bend for gold?Wed Dec 27 1995 18:324
    
    	How long before you go back in, so that I can be ready to nail
    	the door shut??
    
52.1893ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroWed Dec 27 1995 18:333
    
    Glen, I am starting to worry about you lately. These snarfs in all
    topics, show you need to get a life. kfc, nnttm, ipa, et al.....
52.1894BUSY::SLABOUNTYWhy don't you bend for gold?Wed Dec 27 1995 18:343
    
    	Don't forget FOAD, Mark.
    
52.1895USAT02::SANDERRWed Dec 27 1995 19:023
    Fatboy:
    
    Walter Matthau has a "face like a mackerel"...sortlike yers
52.1896GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERRIP Amos, you will be missedWed Dec 27 1995 19:074
    
    
    
    See what I mean, everyone?
52.1897USAT02::SANDERRWed Dec 27 1995 19:091
    look Moron, u r just unhappy that u didn't get yer free lunch today...
52.1898ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroWed Dec 27 1995 19:133
    
    I swear this last exchange sounds an awful lot like Wafflefartz and
    Mikw W. I am experiencing deja vu.
52.1899MPGS::MARKEYI'm feeling ANSI and ISOlatedWed Dec 27 1995 19:1910
    
    I watched Stargate (Christmas gift) Monday night, and last
    night watched an old favorite: The Life Of Brian...
    
    Stargate's decent escapist fare, and I'm particularly fond
    of the various morphing effects... worth seeing (IMO) just
    to watch Ra's (as opposed to RAH's) body guards' head
    gear morph...
    
    -b
52.1900BUSY::SLABOUNTYSkydive naked from an aeroplaneWed Dec 27 1995 19:218
    
    	I liked "Stargate", but I have a feeling it was a box-office bomb.
    	So it must've sucked.  8^)
    
    	Kurt Russell is always great [just saw "Escape from New York" a
    	couple weeks ago] and I'm also a James Spader fan [since I saw
    	"Tuff Turf", also starring Kim Richards [yowza!!].
    
52.1902ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroWed Dec 27 1995 19:245
    
    <<< and last night watched an old favorite: The Life of Brian
    
    gee -b, considering it was an autobiography, did it have alot of
    penis scenes????
52.1903BUSY::SLABOUNTYSkydive naked from an aeroplaneWed Dec 27 1995 19:255
    
    	They probably mentioned it alot.
    
    	All talk and no show, you know?
    
52.19048^)POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of PerditionWed Dec 27 1995 19:307
    
    a lot.
    a lot.
    
    Jeez!
    
    
52.1905BUSY::SLABOUNTYSkydive naked from an aeroplaneWed Dec 27 1995 19:323
    
    	I use "alot" alot because I know it turns you on.
    
52.1906ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroWed Dec 27 1995 19:325
    
    .1904
    
    
    I knew that was coming, yes I did.
52.1901BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityWed Dec 27 1995 19:364

	Mr Battis..... I do need to get a life.....oh, and my grandmother's
birth year snarf!
52.1907BUSY::SLABOUNTYSkydive naked from an aeroplaneWed Dec 27 1995 19:393
    
    	She does that alot, doesn't she??
    
52.1908SCASS1::EDITEX::MOOREAMazeOfTwistyLittlePassagesWed Dec 27 1995 19:422
    
    Stop now ! Your allotment is up.
52.1909BUSY::SLABOUNTYSkydive naked from an aeroplaneWed Dec 27 1995 19:454
    
    	I'll admit I feel a bit of discomfort there, but it's got a ways
    	to go before it's actually "up".
    
52.1910POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of PerditionWed Dec 27 1995 20:064
    
    Die, all of you!
    
    
52.1911CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeWed Dec 27 1995 20:169

 Speaking of movies, I watched Homeward Bound on Saturday night..updated
 version of "The Incredible Journey".  I really enjoyed it, and got a
 bit teary at the end.



 Jim
52.1912SCASS1::EDITEX::MOOREAMazeOfTwistyLittlePassagesWed Dec 27 1995 20:184
    
    Speaking of movies, do you know where most movies are made ?
    
    Answer: On a lot.
52.1913BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityWed Dec 27 1995 20:243

	Deb, do I have to die as well?
52.1914TROOA::BUTKOVICHit's tummy time!Thu Dec 28 1995 03:494
    Hey Jim - I watched part of Homeward Bound too - the ending where you
    are waiting for the old dog to make it back always puts a lump in my
    throat.  And Taz actually laid on her dog pillow and watched the movie
    with me... really!
52.191543GMC::KEITHDr. DeuceThu Dec 28 1995 11:16123
Goosed!

Hollywood takes a gander at an Air Reserve Station.

by TSgt. Timothy P. Barela
photos by MSgt. Val Gempis

                   Movie stars Jeff Daniels and Anna
Paquin, pose with other actors and movie extras from Niagara Falls Air Reserve Station
in a scene that involves a newspaper reporter and photographer who get wind of the
duo's plight.

Usually it's C-130 aircraft that cruise the skies over Niagara Falls Air
Reserve Station in New York. But it took about 20 geese honking and
flapping their wings there to get the attention of Hollywood.

And any base that ruffles the feathers of Tinsel Town immediately grabs the
interest of the Air Force's liaison to Hollywood.

Based in Los Angeles, this small group of bluesuiters worked with Columbia
Pictures earlier this year to set the stage for the Air Force to make an
appearance on the big screen in a family adventure drama scheduled to be
released this summer. The movie, dubbed "Father Goose" but not yet officially
titled, stars Jeff Daniels of "Dumb and Dumber," Dana Delany of "China
Beach," and 14-year-old Oscar-winner Anna Paquin of "The Piano."

"Working with Hollywood is about two-thirds of what we do," said Lt. Col.
Thomas R. Worsdale, director of Air Force public affairs' western region
office, which also handles media and community relations.

"Father Goose" tells the heartening story of a father, Thomas Alden
(Daniels), and his daughter, Amy (Paquin), who rebuild their relationship after
a nine-year separation when 13-year-old Amy discovers a nest of goose eggs
and brings them home to hatch and raise on her own. When the geese
identify Amy as their mother, Thomas realizes that he and his daughter must
teach them to migrate for the winter. With the help and support of Thomas'
girlfriend (Delany), father, daughter and geese all learn to fly together.

The scene at the air station involves an exhausted Thomas and Amy--in
two ultra-light aircraft--and the flock of geese accidentally making a
night-time landing on the flightline, where they encounter security police and
an angry wing commander who had to put his base on alert because of the
"UFOs." After his initial reaction, the general softens and helps out the
unusual airborne adventurers.

"Columbia Pictures sent us the script back in March," Worsdale said. "It's a
family-oriented film that gives a nice, positive snapshot of the Air Force. It
really shows our heart. Based on that, we decided we were interested in
helping out."

After meeting with the producers and director, a site was chosen--Niagara
Falls ARS. Then, after much coordination, the film crew underwent three
days of shooting at the base.

"This is a win-win situation," Worsdale said. "Columbia gets the temporary
use of the base, our expertise and a realism in their shoot that otherwise
wouldn't have been possible. Now they can accurately portray us. We [the Air
Force] get a great five-minute commercial seen by national and international
audiences of all ages.

"This is a $20 million project. We could never afford to promote ourselves
the way they will. The positive advertising helps recruiting and public
awareness. With both parties cooperating, this won't be a slipshod depiction of
the military that is so often seen in movies." 

Best of all, the production didn't cost the Air Force a cent, Worsdale added.
The producers picked up the tab for any fuel burned by Air Force aircraft
used in the film, and had their own caterers and accommodations. They even
fielded their own "poop patrol" to clean up the slippery mess the geese left
in their wake.

Producer John Veitch said he couldn't have been happier with the Air
Force's involvement. "The Air Force has been phenomenal--they really bent
over backward," said Veitch, an Army veteran who carries a metal plate in
his leg--a stark reminder of his service in Guadalcanal during World War II.
"I've been involved with the military, but this crew--most of which is
Canadian--hasn't. They're impressed."

Since his last two films were "Dracula" and "Frankenstein," Veitch said he's
excited about doing a good family film.

"It's something for my grandchildren," he said.

While fictional, the film was inspired by the life and work of Bill Lishman
and his Operation Migration project. In 1994, he used a process known as
imprinting--an instinctive bonding--to establish a migratory pattern to
Virginia for some Canadian geese. When the goslings hatch, they imprint on
their "mother"--in the movie that's Paquin; in the real-life case it's
Lishman, thus the "Father Goose" label.

As the flock's surrogate parent, Lishman used ultra-light aircraft to help the
geese migrate. So successful was the experiment that the very next spring, the
geese flew back to Lishman's doorstep in Canada. Environmental scientists
believe this technique may be used to save endangered species, drawing them
to special wildlife reserves.

"The environmental impact of the movie is just another added benefit,"
Worsdale said. In addition to the Air Force liaison involvement in the
feature presentation, several extras from the Niagara Falls base debuted in the
film.

"It was a lot of fun, very exciting," said Amn. Eric J. Barlow, a 19-year-old
reservist with the 914th Security Police Squadron. He portrayed an Air Force
cop who helps apprehend Paquin and Daniels when they land on the base.

"I drive an all-terrain vehicle, jump off, then point a gun at Paquin and
Daniels and tell them to get down on the ground," Barlow said. He had to
grab Paquin by the arm and force her to the pavement when she tried to
run to Daniels. Puffs of down filled the air as the geese scattered. "I was
nervous, but mainly I just didn't want to hurt Anna," Barlow said.

As for Daniels, who is relishing a more dramatic role after "Dumb and
Dumber," this was the first time he worked on an Air Force base.

"There's a whole swash-buckling kind of feeling to this country's defense," he
said. "Here's the arsenal, sitting, waiting, intimidating."

But he did have some advice for bluesuiters regarding his recent co-star in
"Dumb and Dumber":

"If you ever get the inkling to offer an airplane ride to Jim Carey and let
him take the stick, DON'T!" he said with an ornery grin. "He's certifiable.
He'd probably strafe Buffalo!" 
52.1916ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroThu Dec 28 1995 11:482
    
    Is it just me, or is mz_debra just a teensy bit testy lately??? :-)
52.1917CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeThu Dec 28 1995 11:498
>    Hey Jim - I watched part of Homeward Bound too - the ending where you
>    are waiting for the old dog to make it back always puts a lump in my
>    throat.  And Taz actually laid on her dog pillow and watched the movie
>    with me... really!


 :-)
52.1918CNTROL::JENNISONA turkey and some mistletoeThu Dec 28 1995 11:576
    	
    	What mz_debra meant was
    
    	"Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good night!"
    
    
52.1919TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterThu Dec 28 1995 11:589
    
    Well, I saw `Toy Story' last night and I thought it was GREAT!
    
    My favorite scene was the toy dispensing machine at Pizza Planet.
    
    "I have been chosen!"
    
    ROTFLMAO.
    
52.1920NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Dec 28 1995 12:061
Are the floors of Canadian movie theatres cleaner than the floors of U.S. ones?
52.1921TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterThu Dec 28 1995 12:143
    
    'Kay, how about "TIMSLMAO"?
    
52.1922CNTROL::JENNISONA turkey and some mistletoeThu Dec 28 1995 12:164
    
    	Not possible, !Joan.  You'll have to find some other way to
    	drop those ten pounds!
    
52.1923TROOA::COLLINSSparky DoobsterThu Dec 28 1995 12:205
    
    dag-nabbit!
    
    :^)
    
52.1924ACISS1::BATTISgrandmagotrunoverbyacamaroThu Dec 28 1995 12:553
    
    <---- !joan, please don't say that word. you are conjuring up images
    of Kimball Scott. that is a frightening thought.
52.1925TROOA::BUTKOVICHfalling with styleSun Dec 31 1995 14:3210
    Tried to see "12 Monkeys" on Friday night - got to the theatre an hour
    and a half before the movie thinking that we'd pick up our tickets and
    then go pick up some Thai across the street but Nooooo.  It was sold
    out!  Not being desparate enough to wait around for the added 12:30am
    showing, we ended up seeing "Toy Story" (thus the new PN) What a hoot!
    My expectations were high after all the positive reviews and it did not
    disappoint.
    
    Couple of favourite lines :  "I found my moving buddy"
    				 " I come in peace"
52.1926TROOA::BUTKOVICHI come in peaceSun Dec 31 1995 14:562
    oooppps... just noticed that Joan Collins already had that PN (great
    minds think alike?) so I've modified mine
52.1927POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerSun Dec 31 1995 15:361
    "Now I'm full of guilt!"
52.1928POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerSun Dec 31 1995 15:404
    I must admit, Toy Story is the best movie I saw in 1995. Guess I'm
    still a kid. I loved the little green army men scene. Green army men
    hiding in the potted plants. I played with those exactly the same way,
    by the hour.
52.1929BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanitySun Dec 31 1995 16:511
<---did you have a plastic base on your feet like they did? :-)
52.1930POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerSun Dec 31 1995 18:351
    No, it was just pretend.
52.1931BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanitySun Dec 31 1995 20:251
Pretend.... is that what the RR do when they say they love everyone??? ;-)
52.1932POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerSun Dec 31 1995 20:329
              eh?
	      /
	  oO)-.
	 /__  _\       
	 \  \(  |      
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	  '  '--'   
    
52.1933BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Jan 01 1996 05:491
<---you canandian!
52.1934POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerMon Jan 01 1996 05:589
              quoi?
	      /
	  oO)-.
	 /__  _\       
	 \  \(  |      
	  \__|\ {                                             
	  '  '--'   
    
52.1935BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Jan 01 1996 06:103

	I *knew* you'd be logged in! :-)  Have a happy new year, Glenn! 
52.1936CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeTue Jan 02 1996 00:069

 Saw Nixon (the movie) today.  At one point I was so bored and
 frustrated with the movie I almost walked out.  But, I stuck around and
 it was OK.  Left me with a troubled feeling, however.



 Jim
52.1937WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jan 02 1996 10:295
    i got Appolo 13 for Christmas and finally watched it Saturday.
    
    MHO... it was just okay even though it's being touted as one of the
    year's best and will probably receive Oscar noms for best picture
    and director (according to the "critics").
52.1938USAT05::SANDERRTue Jan 02 1996 13:001
    saw the "Burbs" again yesterday...funnier than ever
52.1939CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenTue Jan 02 1996 13:361
    Loved The Burbs.  Neighbors was almost as good but not quite.
52.1940TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::ChrisI come in peaceTue Jan 02 1996 13:584
I saw "Sense and Sensibility" yesterday - what a wonderful film. Emma
Thompson is one talented lady - not only was her acting terrific 
(especially that final scene), but she is also credited as adapting the 
Jane Austin novel to the screenplay.
52.1941SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Tue Jan 02 1996 14:052
    Watched "Angie" last night on tape.  Heartwarming rite-of-passage film
    starring Geena Davis.
52.1942Austen in BostonAMN1::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoTue Jan 02 1996 15:0617
    re: "Sense and Sensibility"
    
    I wish they'd run that movie in more theaters, for my wife's sake
    (she loves Jane Austen books and movies based on the books).  As far
    as we can tell, it's only in three theaters in the Boston area, two
    of which are in Boston or on its edges, so fergit it (advanced
    cityphobia).
    
    Supposedly there's another Austen-based film either in the works
    or out already in similarly limited distribution.
    
    I don't understand this distribution thing.  "S&S" is supposed to
    be this great movie, and yet they don't give it any kind of wide
    distribution.  I have about 24 screens available within a 15-minute
    drive of my house, and yet none of them see fit to run this film?
    
    Chris
52.1943POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresTue Jan 02 1996 15:183
    
    A new version of "Pride & Prejudice" is going to be on...A&E? soon.  
                     
52.1944BUSY::SLABOUNTYHello good L-O-O-K-I-N-GTue Jan 02 1996 15:315
    
    	Never saw the old version.
    
    	What was it about?  Any gore?
    
52.1945Like a good Western, watchable by just about everyoneAMN1::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoTue Jan 02 1996 19:0122
    >>	What was it about?  Any gore?
    
    Naw, Al Gore stayed home that week...
    
    Most of Austen's stuff appears to involve British middle-class
    mating rituals and the like (not Discovery channel stuff, I mean
    things like how couples find/keep each other, and other skills
    that I've forgotten).
    
    "Pride and Prejudice" would appear to be one of her most well-loved
    works, involving romance across class boundaries and so on (the
    "prejudice" is the belief that the upper-class guy is cold and aloof
    by virtue of being from the upper class, if I recall).  There was
    a pretty good BBC/Australian treatment of P&P on Masterpiece theater
    back around 1982, now available on video.
    
    It's entertaining enough even for someone like me, who's almost
    completely uninterested in the subject matter.  The characterizations
    are great, as is the acting, direction, and so on.  What a bunch
    of characters... :-)
    
    Chris
52.1946CNTROL::JENNISONA turkey and some mistletoeTue Jan 02 1996 19:0510
    
    	Saw "Laura" over the weekend.  I don't know what year it came
    	out, but it's an Otto Preminger film, starring Gene Tierney and
    	Dana Andrews.
    
    	It's a humorous, entertaining murder mystery that received 5 
    	academy award nominations.  Far better than the carp hollyweird
    	puts out these days.
    
    
52.1947SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Tue Jan 02 1996 19:191
    Gene Tierney, now there's a dish from the past.  Great gams!
52.1948CNTROL::JENNISONA turkey and some mistletoeTue Jan 02 1996 19:213
    
    	so, she was good cook ?
    
52.1949NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jan 02 1996 19:261
She certainly wasn't an old haag.
52.1950SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Wed Jan 03 1996 11:5011
    re: .1947
    
    >Great gams!
    
    Dick,
    
    You KNOW you're gonna have to explain that to some youngster in here...
    don't you?
    
    :)
    
52.1951 except when they're phi gams. ;-)WAHOO::LEVESQUEto infinity and beyondWed Jan 03 1996 12:051
    gams = legs
52.1952NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jan 03 1996 13:161
As in viola da gamba.
52.1953CNTROL::JENNISONA turkey and some mistletoeWed Jan 03 1996 13:195
    
    	Oh, he said "gams"?  I thought he said "yams".
    
    	;-)
    
52.1954GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Wed Jan 03 1996 19:065
    
    saw 'while you were sleeping' over the holiday.  it was a bit
    predictible, but still funny.  granma elsie had the best lines...
    
    
52.1955CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeWed Jan 03 1996 19:067

 I saw that a couple weeks ago..I agree with your comments, raq.


 
 Jim
52.1956NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Jan 04 1996 16:3440
From: dscribedc@aol.com (DscribeDC)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.current-films
Subject: Orenth...er, I Mean,..."Othello..."
 
I enjoyed Oliver Parker's adaptation of William Shakespeare's "Othello,"
the tragic story of the wealthy, renowned and physically-imposing Moor who
unjustly kills his fair-skinned wife in a fit of jealous rage over an
imagined infidelity.  (Wow, what an imagination, huh?  Guess Willy had to
dream up some pretty wild and sensational plots to keep those poor,
ignorant groundlings at the Globe amused...Good thing we're so much more
sophisticated than those peasants and rustics...)
 
I do have to take issue, however, with Parker's decision to jettison
nearly half of Shakespeare's original text.  In addition, certain other
features of the film threw me a little bit...
 
1.  The addition of Greta Van Sustern as Opportunia, the village crier who
becomes the wealthiest and most famous woman in Cyprus for her exciting
retellings of Iago's plot and Othello's downfall, was a little bit
distracting and threw off the pacing quite a lot.
 
2.  I prefer the original play's ending to Parker's "updated" one (he's a
real Demi Moor!...), in which Othello is brought back to Venice and, in a
horribly long scene, the canonical lawyer Johannes of Cochran importunes
the Council "if no pillow ye see/then Othello go free."  Somewhat
implausibly, the Council votes to acquit, but Othello gets his
comeuppance, lamenting in the "take not my balls, I beseech thee" speech
his expulsion from Venice's ultra-exclusive "Doge-leg Right" bocce club. 
Diverting, but lacks the dramatic gravity of the original.
 
3.  Somebody shut those damned Akitas up already!...
 
But seriously folks, I haven't read the original play in years, so I'm not
about to comment in detail on the textual changes.  But "Othello" was
well-paced, and Fishburne was brooding, complex and intimidating, a real
physical presence.  I've never been a big Branagh fan before, but his
performance as Iago was full of evil, malicious wit...a real joy to watch.
 A great, great cinematic experience.  
 
Now, if only they had tested Faye Resnick for Bianca...
52.1957WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Jan 04 1996 16:492
    the original with sir Larry O. was pretty good, but was really meant
    as a stage production.
52.1958CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenThu Jan 04 1996 16:5610
    Rented Congo last night.  What piece of trash!  This has to be the most
    diappointing movie I have seen in a long, long time.  The "acting" if
    you can call it that was surpirsingly bad, by folks I can usually
    tolerate or even enjoy.  The accents put on by Tim Curry and the
    african agent (cannot remember his name) were so poorly contrived it
    was almost comedy.  Hmmm, maybe that's it!  It was a comedy!  If you
    saw it at the theater, I feel for you.  If you have intentions of
    renting it, play solitaire instead.  
    
    Brian
52.1959MAIL1::CRANEThu Jan 04 1996 16:591
    I thought "Species" was pretty bad. IMO
52.1960POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresThu Jan 04 1996 17:003
    
    Has anyone gone to see "Waiting to Exhale" yet?
    
52.1961BUSY::SLABOUNTYA seemingly endless timeThu Jan 04 1996 17:043
    
    	No.  Why?
    
52.1962CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenThu Jan 04 1996 17:049
    Don't tell me, it't the Clinton Story, right?  No, wait, it's a
    sci-fi/thriller loosely based upon the life of Rush Limbaugh. 
    Terrorists kidnap him to the polar ice cap and threaten to make him
    exhale expelling all that hot air at once and thus raising the sea
    level 37 feet as the ice melts.  No, wait, I know, it's the story of
    Congress and how they are all holding their breath until William
    decides to tender a balanced budget.  In any case, I haven't seen it.  
    
    Brian
52.1963POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresThu Jan 04 1996 17:056
    
    Typical useless answers 8^).
    
    It's just that I liked the book and am loathe to spend time and money
    seeing the movie if it's gonna suck.
    
52.1964LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Thu Jan 04 1996 17:0911
    anthony hopkins' portrayal of nixon was transcendental.
    hopkins captured every hand gesture, every mannerism, 
    his speech, everything.  hopkins _is_ nixon.
    
    i left the theatre with a feeling for nixon i'd never
    experienced - compassion.  it was very odd.  the guy
    was so imprisoned within himself.
    
    the movie was a tad long.  i just ignored all the stone
    embellishments.  whoever played pat nixon did a fine job.
    the things that poor woman endured!  oish.
52.1965BUSY::SLABOUNTYA seemingly endless timeThu Jan 04 1996 17:158
    
    	Deb, if you compare a book to a movie, 99.44% of the time the book
    	will be much better.
    
    	I'd figure people would have learned this by now and not read any
    	books until they've seen the respective movie 1st.  That's why I
    	haven't read "The Iliad" yet.
    
52.1966WAHOO::LEVESQUEto infinity and beyondThu Jan 04 1996 17:184
    I have not seen "Waiting to Exhale", it being a chick flick and all.
    Supposedly it's very good, at least, women seem to think so. My wife
    really, really, really wants to go see it. So apparently it does not
    suck, though I suspect that it will not be quite as good as the book.
52.1967BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityThu Jan 04 1996 17:201
<---if they wait too long, won't they pass out?
52.1968POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresThu Jan 04 1996 17:206
    
    I haven't been to a cinema since I saw Sleepless in Seattle during the
    summer of 1993, I think it was.
    
    I don't get out much 8^).
    
52.1969{snicker}SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Thu Jan 04 1996 17:212
    
    >I don't get out much 8^).
52.1970POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Jan 04 1996 17:223
    Now THERE'S a movie that disappointed me.

    ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
52.1971WAHOO::LEVESQUEto infinity and beyondThu Jan 04 1996 17:233
    Rented Apollo 13 last week. Definitely worth watching, particularly for
    those of us who remember parts of it through the haze of childhood
    recollection.
52.1972CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeThu Jan 04 1996 17:2612
    
>    Has anyone gone to see "Waiting to Exhale" yet?
 

  I'm quite certain lots of folks have.




   

52.1973SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Thu Jan 04 1996 17:277
    
    re: .1970
    
    >ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
    
    Movies don't count... only plays!!!
    
52.1974LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Thu Jan 04 1996 17:283
    .1971
    
    copy that.
52.1975BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityThu Jan 04 1996 17:283

I'm always out
52.1976POLAR::RICHARDSONCPU CyclerThu Jan 04 1996 17:281
    If he does, the FBI and INTERPOL will be after him!
52.1977CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeThu Jan 04 1996 17:4712
    
>    i left the theatre with a feeling for nixon i'd never
>    experienced - compassion.  it was very odd.  the guy
>    was so imprisoned within himself.
 

  I had the same feeling. 



   
 
52.1978CSLALL::HENDERSONPraise His name I am freeThu Jan 04 1996 18:119


 Speaking of Apollo 13..the Discovery Channel features the making of the 
 movie on "Movie Magic" tonight at 9.



 Jim
52.1979Shoop, shoop, shoop.......DECLNE::REESEMy REALITY check bouncedThu Jan 04 1996 20:2922
    Waiting To Exhale (the movie) has been getting excellent reviews
    and has been selling out here in Atlanta and other areas of the
    country.
    
    Dateline showed a clip of women going to see the flick in groups
    of 30-40 women.  Forrest Whittaker (director) said he was amazed
    when he entered a preview and saw the women talking back to the
    characters on the screen. Whittaker and Terry McMillan worked
    together on the screenplay to keep it as accurate as possible.
    McMillan said she is very pleased with the movie and most authors
    typically do not feel that way after they see their "baby" up on
    the screen.
    
    Terry McMillan (the author) bristles when folks claim the book
    and movie bashes men.  She said her point was that ALL men are not
    like those portrayed; she was trying to make the point that SOME
    WOMEN keep picking the same type of man (losers) time after time.
    
    I still think the best scene is Angie Bassett stuffing her hubby's
    clothes thru the moon roof of his luxury car, spreading charcoal
    fluid on them and then lighting the match :-)
    
52.1980TROOA::BUTKOVICHI come in peaceFri Jan 05 1996 02:446
    >>> most authors typically do not feel that way after they see 
    their "baby" up on the screen.
        
    Unless they're Anne Rice and suddenly figure out that their initial
    reaction to the movie may not help with the book sales!  8*)
    
52.1981WAHOO::LEVESQUEto infinity and beyondFri Jan 05 1996 10:259
    >Terry McMillan (the author) bristles when folks claim the book
    >and movie bashes men.
    
    It may not have been her intent, but the fact that most of the men in
    the movie are protraryed as losers does not exactly elevate men in the
    eyes of the audience. Of course, her protestations that she is not
    bashing men mirror those of white male authors/directors/etc who have
    made the same claims about their treatment of minorities and women.
    Food for thought.
52.1982GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERA New Year, the SOSFri Jan 05 1996 10:2812
    
    
    RE: Nixon-Remember, this is not a historical account.  It is fiction
    based on historical events.  The problem is, people are going to go see
    the film and think it is a documentary and this will be their only
    exposure on the man and the events of the time.  Oliver Stone is a
    chicken shite.  Notice he waited until Richard and Pat Nixon were both
    dead to make the movie.  His accounts have been refuted by many who
    knew the man.
    
    
    Mike
52.1983WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Jan 05 1996 10:414
    -1 rather harsh judgement of a man that you don't know and based on a
       movie.
    
       given his past work i'd say he has steel in his marbles.
52.1984GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERA New Year, the SOSFri Jan 05 1996 10:497
    
    
    Just l;ike the JFK movie.  Another fictional movie based on historical
    events.  Harsh judgement?  I don't think so.  This movie had to be
    laying around for a while for it to come out so fast after Nixon's
    death.  Why wasn't it made before now?
    
52.1985WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Jan 05 1996 10:513
    why wasn't JFK? maybe because no one else wanted to take the risk?
    
    something to think about...
52.1986SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Fri Jan 05 1996 13:2811
    .1964
    
    > i left the theatre with a feeling for nixon i'd never
    > experienced - compassion.  it was very odd.  the guy
    > was so imprisoned within himself.
    
    Please remember that the "Nixon" you saw on the screen was Oliver
    Stone's conception of a Richard Nixon charactor who would make a
    profitable film, and he bears little if any relation to real life. 
    This is what I find so scary about movies like Stone's - people
    actually believe them.
52.1987BUSY::SLABOUNTYNever Say Never Again, AgainFri Jan 05 1996 13:334
    
    	Wait a minute ... you mean that not everything we see in the
    	movies is true??
    
52.1988LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Fri Jan 05 1996 13:347
    .1986
    
    the nixon i saw on the screen comes very close to the nixon
    discussed in stephen ambrose's biography of the man and 
    seymour hersh's "The Price of Power" in terms of paranoia,
    the "politics is war" attitude, and the "win at any cost"
    attitude.  
52.1989SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Fri Jan 05 1996 13:527
    .1988
    
    > the nixon i saw on the screen comes very close...
    
    Was either of those books authorized by Nixon or his family?  If not,
    it is fair to assume that they paint unflattering or unrealistic
    portraits of him.
52.1990LANDO::OLIVER_Bwith no direction home...Fri Jan 05 1996 14:0710
    ambrose uses nixon's own writings as the basis for his biography.
    he writes about nixon's good qualities, as well as his bad ones.
    not having known the man personally, i chose to rely on ambrose's
    exhaustive study of our 37th president.  
    
    hersh's book deals with the Kissinger/Nixon relationship.
    
    i do not know if these books were blessed by the nixon family.
    
    
52.1991ACISS1::BATTIStwo cans short of a 6 packFri Jan 05 1996 14:404
    
    << i do not know if these books were blessed by the nixon family
    
    ah, so that's what his new career was after leaving office.
52.1992BUSY::SLABOUNTYI forgot Why the Caged Bird SingsFri Jan 05 1996 15:0214
    
    	OK, Dick, was the movie unflattering or unrealistic?
    
    	Unflattering means that it was the truth, but contained things
    	that are far from complimentary.
    
    	Unrealistic means it's not the truth, but could possibly be
    	complimentary.
    
    	Which would you rather see?  Fact or fiction?
    
    	And the family doesn't have to authorize the movie to make it
    	realistic.
    
52.1993LANDO::OLIVER_BimpetigoFri Jan 05 1996 15:074
    and one more thing, dick.  i didn't go to the theatre all
    wide-eyed and naive about RMN.  i do read a book once in a
    while, and i'm capable of making informed judgements on this 
    particular subject.
52.1994PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Jan 05 1996 15:103
  so you're reading books now??  when did this happen, Oph?

52.1995TROOA::COLLINSDialed in for dharma.Fri Jan 05 1996 15:116
    
    At the movies, I learned that unless you make precise calculations
    before the jump to hyperspace, you could fly right through a star
    or bounce too close to a supernova, and that'd end your trip real
    quick.
    
52.1996BUSY::SLABOUNTYI forgot Why the Caged Bird SingsFri Jan 05 1996 15:155
    
    	And time travel gets really hairy when you happen to land in
    	the middle of a freeway in LA, especially if you've just come
    	from a farm in 1820 Idaho.
    
52.1997POLAR::RICHARDSONBig Bag O' PassionFri Jan 05 1996 15:232
    My face gets really hairy when I let it travel through time without any
    shaving.
52.1998TROOA::COLLINSDialed in for dharma.Fri Jan 05 1996 15:243
    
    :^)
    
52.1999POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresFri Jan 05 1996 15:273
    
    I admit to a fondness for facial hair.
    
52.2000TROOA::COLLINSDialed in for dharma.Fri Jan 05 1996 15:283
    
    I admit to an aversion to shaving.
    
52.2001PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Jan 05 1996 15:295
    
>    I admit to a fondness for facial hair.

	yes, you do.  quite often.  ;>

52.20028^)POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresFri Jan 05 1996 15:321
    
52.2003BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityFri Jan 05 1996 15:3410

	Nixon doesn't appear to be doing too well. In the 1st 13 days, it only
made $7.58 million, and it is currently ranked 14th, down a notch from last
week. So it ain't too cool. Don't know what it cost to make it, but it
certainly isn't doing very well.



Glen
52.2004BUSY::SLABOUNTYPeter Horton Hears a WhoFri Jan 05 1996 15:526
    
	>Nixon doesn't appear to be doing too well.
    
    
    	If his condition changes, let me know IMMEDIATELY.
    
52.2005Tell us the truth in biographies, we can take itAMN1::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoFri Jan 05 1996 17:2624
    >> 	Nixon doesn't appear to be doing too well
    
    It's too soon to come out with a movie about Nixon.  Most people who'd
    be potentially interested in such a film are still pretty emotional about
    the topic, I'd venture.  Besides that, I saw enough of the real item
    in my own lifetime, why go see someone's fictional filtered image of
    the man?
    
    The problem with making movies out of recent history or historical
    figures is that there are many of us who are already all too familiar
    with the facts, so who needs the movie?
    
    re: "authorized" bios
    
    My experience is that unauthorized biograhpies are certainly less
    flattering and more realistic, apparently just by virtue of not having
    everything run through the "family filter".  One of the best bios I've
    ever read was an unauthorized biography of Gene Roddenberry.  Sure, it
    was unflattering in some places, just as it was flattering in others.
    After finishing the book, I found myself admiring him more than I had
    previously, even with (or perhaps because of?) his flaws.  I prefer a
    balanced and more accurate view, where possible.
    
    Chris
52.2006LANDO::OLIVER_BimpetigoFri Jan 05 1996 19:276
    |Besides that, I saw enough of the real item
    |in my own lifetime, why go see someone's fictional filtered image
    |of the man?
    
    because i much preferred seeing 'Nixon' to 'Grumpier Old Men'
    or 'Jumangi'.  i guess i'm just that way.
52.2007POLAR::RICHARDSONBig Bag O' PassionFri Jan 05 1996 19:381
    I sawer Toy Story, it were good.
52.2008LANDO::OLIVER_BimpetigoFri Jan 05 1996 19:401
    have you any datum on the filim?
52.2009SCASS1::EDITEX::MOOREALittleOfMazePassagesTwistyMon Jan 08 1996 04:0818
    
    "Twelve Monkeys".
    
    Down in Texas, when it snows, as it did on Saturday, most people don't
    go out.
    
    Me and the wife went out, and met a packed theatre to see the above.
    
    Go see.  You'll spend days hashing out what really happened.  
    
    This is the first Brad Pitt movie where I really enjoyed his
    performance.  He plays a wacko so well, my wife swears he must be like
    this in real life.  Most of the critics bash Bruce Willis for his
    performance, but I thought he did a damned good job...none of the
    smarmy wink-at-the-camera stuff.
    
    - Barry
    
52.2010TROOA::COLLINSWho's in charge here?Mon Jan 08 1996 11:104
    
    I also enjoyed `12 Monkeys'.  `Brazil' is still my favorite Terry
    Gilliam movie, but this was also very good.
    
52.2011POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresMon Jan 08 1996 12:074
    
    I watched "The Cutting Edge" on tv last night.  Cute.  I was reminded of
    Lynne Mandile every time the woman said "Toepick!"
    
52.2012BUSY::SLABOUNTYJAFOMon Jan 08 1996 14:313
    
    	Moira Kelly, in case you care.
    
52.2013Roan InishDYPSS1::COGHILLSteve Coghill, Luke 14:28Mon Jan 08 1996 14:444
   Rented "The Secret of Roan Inish" this weekend.  A delightful film. 
   A bit amateurish in places, but a overall  nice flick.  Can't wait to
   buy the soundtrack.  I'm surprised it wasn't banned due to child porn
   here in the U.S.
52.2014TROOA::COLLINSIn the dead heat of Time...Tue Jan 09 1996 12:184
    
    Patrick McGoohan has agreed to appear in a big-screen 
    version of `The Prisoner'.
    
52.2015GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Tue Jan 09 1996 15:445
    
    deb, if you want to see it commercial free and unedited, lemme know...
    :>
    
    
52.2016BULEAN::BANKSWed Jan 10 1996 14:057
.2014:

You're kidding?!?!?

I don't know how I feel about this.  Being a long time died in the wool
Prisoner fan, I don't know if I should dread it being done wrong, or look
forward to it being done right.
52.2017POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresWed Jan 10 1996 14:107
    
    Last night I rented _Anne of Green Gables_ (the recent [Disney?] one, 
    not the original).  Pretty, and interesting, but talk about
    condensation.  As usual, the book was better 8^).
    
    I also rented _A Little Night Music_ which I will watch tonight. 
     
52.2018Avonlea stuffDECWIN::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoWed Jan 10 1996 14:1913
    re: Anne of Green Gables
    
    There was a sequel with the same cast made shortly thereafter,
    entitled "Anne of Avonlea" (if I'm remembering correctly), that
    resolved much of what was left somewhat hanging in the original.
    
    For better or worse, Megan Follows (?) declined to appear in the
    "Avonlea" Disney Channel series by the same production company,
    that's been on for five years or so.  That series has been in
    something of a decline lately, and I've heard that it will stop
    production after this season.
    
    Chris
52.2019TROOA::COLLINSThere will be...trouble.Wed Jan 10 1996 14:205
    
    Not kidding re: The Prisoner.
    
    :^)
    
52.2020SMURF::WALTERSWed Jan 10 1996 14:292
    Wonder if they'll film the prisoner in the original setting of
    Port Meirion? 
52.2021Your villageCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertWed Jan 10 1996 14:356
I'm sure the hotel owners would hope so; they could use the money.

(I was there this summer, and a coat of paint is just about due for
the whole "village".)

/john
52.2022Map soon to appear on the Soapbox Home PageCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertWed Jan 10 1996 14:363
BTW, it's Portmeirion, not Port Meirion.

/john
52.2023SMURF::WALTERSWed Jan 10 1996 14:492
    Boy, is my face red.
    
52.2024TROOA::COLLINSThere will be...trouble.Wed Jan 10 1996 14:503
    
    Being wrong is not a crim, son.
    
52.2025SMURF::WALTERSWed Jan 10 1996 14:581
    Thanks,  I'm in the pink again.
52.2026SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Wed Jan 10 1996 14:585
    .2024
    
    It is in the box.
    
    You spelled crime wrong.  We're coming to arrest you.
52.2027SMURF::WALTERSWed Jan 10 1996 15:042
    Quick! Flush the evidence.
    
52.2028COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertWed Jan 10 1996 15:558
You can now tour the village (well, at least see a map of it) from the
Soapbox home page.

http://www.zk3.dec.com/~binder/soapbox.html

Follow the " Visit the Prisoner's Village " link.

/john
52.2029Be seeing youDECWIN::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoWed Jan 10 1996 16:546
    I think the only way I'd even consider a "Prisoner" movie
    would be if Terry Gillam (sp?) made it, and McGoohan would have
    to be the star, not just make an appearance to throw a bone
    to us old guys who remember the original.
    
    Chris
52.2030MPGS::MARKEYWe're upping our standards; up yoursWed Jan 10 1996 17:3716
    
    I saw "Congo" last night...
    
    OH... MY... GAWD...
    
    Was there, like, a really high suicide rate in Hollywood after
    that was released?
    
    Tim Curry was the best... what the phruck was that accent all
    about? He sounded so... GENUINE! :-) Also, would it have been
    that much harder to make mechanical gorillas that actually looked
    like gorillas? The dialog between the woman and her boss was
    a real treat too... I kept looking in the credits for the name
    of the Japanese director and script writer...
    
    -b
52.2031...and you!SWAM1::STERN_TOTom Stern -- Have TK, will travel!Wed Jan 10 1996 18:1817
>>           <<< Note 52.2029 by DECWIN::RALTO "Clinto Barada Nikto" >>>
>>                               -< Be seeing you >-

>>    I think the only way I'd even consider a "Prisoner" movie
>>    would be if Terry Gillam (sp?) made it, and McGoohan would have
>>    to be the star, not just make an appearance to throw a bone
>>    to us old guys who remember the original.
    
    Having stopped seeing Gilliam movies because I couldn't stand most of
    them, I rather see the movie version produced and directed by one of
    the people who produced, directed, and wrote most of the the television
    episodes:
    
    
    A guy named McGoohan!
    
    tom
52.2032Yes, better to have McGoohan do itNORX::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoWed Jan 10 1996 18:5315
    re: .2031
    
    That's a good point, McGoohan did do much of the creative work
    behind-the-scenes as well.  I just figured that maybe he was
    getting along a bit in years, and perhaps wasn't up to all that. :-)
    
    In any event, I don't think you can do "The Prisoner" justice in
    the two-hour movie format.  It really needs to be what it essentially
    was at the time, one of television's first mini-series (albeit
    unintentionally, and a bit long at around 18 episodes).  You needed
    that long to "build the environment".  Maybe today, with more
    sophisticated (?!) audiences, you wouldn't need as much time for
    that...
    
    Chris
52.2033BULEAN::BANKSWed Jan 10 1996 18:565
It was McGoohan's concept from beginning to end.  He planned on it being 9
hour long episodes, but the studio talked him into more.  Eventually 17
were made.

- Just another hardcore Prisoner freak
52.2034SUBSYS::NEUMYERLove is a dirty jobWed Jan 10 1996 18:569
    
    re .2032
    
    	Why not, they did it with "The Fugitive". Took a series that lasted 
    years (in TV time) and made it last 'days'.
    
    Of course , it lost the basic premise of the original.
    
    ed
52.2035This is starting to sound like a religion...BULEAN::BANKSWed Jan 10 1996 19:0012
The Fugitive was a totally different sort of TV show.  The basic premise
was a set-up (guy on the run).  This allowed flexibility in plot, and
allowed them to trot out all kinds of special guest stars every week (more
or less like Route 66 -- just with more motivation on the part of the
protagonist).  Ending the series was simply a matter of solving the
original mystery that'd been put off for so many seasons.

The Prisoner was a concept to be implemented from beginning to end, with a
set story, development, atmosphere, and plot.  McGoohan figured it'd take 9
episodes, each of which would add a few more hints (and confusions),
starting with #6 being totally at the mercy of his keepers, ending with him
being the master of his domain.
52.2036A Little Night MusicPOWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresThu Jan 11 1996 12:3716
    
    Do NOT pay to rent this video.
    Do NOT take it as a freebie.
    Do NOT watch this movie, even if the shop pays YOU to take it.
    
    This was without a doubt one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my
    life.  Cut songs.  Rewritten lyrics.  Rewritten keys.  Rotten acting &
    singing.  Renamed _characters_, even!
    
    Why didn't they just subtitle it "Based very loosely on the Sondheim 
    musical of the same name"?  
    
    You have been warned.         
    
    
    
52.2037SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Thu Jan 11 1996 12:416
    
    
    So deb??  It'd be a movie I'd watch without falling asleep??
    
     :) :)
    
52.2038POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresThu Jan 11 1996 12:445
    
    You wouldn't be able to fall asleep, because I'd be yanking on your arm
    and screaming, "WHY? WHY?" the entire time.
    
    
52.2039ACISS1::BATTIStwo cans short of a 6 packThu Jan 11 1996 12:452
    
    deb don't *sugur* coat it, tell us how you *really* feel.
52.2040SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Thu Jan 11 1996 12:589
    
    re: .2038
    
    >You wouldn't be able to fall asleep, because I'd be yanking on your arm
    >and screaming, "WHY? WHY?" the entire time.
    
    Oh.. sorta like I did when I watched "Clear and Present Danger"??
    
    
52.2041GAVEL::JANDROWGreen-Eyed Lady...Thu Jan 11 1996 18:217
    >>Oh.. sorta like I did when I watched "Clear and Present Danger"??
    
    
    do not.....i repeat DO NOT {attempt to} watch a movie with andy if 
    he has read the book....
    
    
52.2042SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Thu Jan 11 1996 18:593
    
    Hey raq!!! All I ask is that they jibe semi-closely...  :)
    
52.2043POLAR::RICHARDSONBig Bag O' PassionThu Jan 11 1996 20:283
    Kinda like when I watched the movie 2010. Man, the book was so
    excellent and the movie sucked the big hairy festering.... Well, let's
    just say I was disappointed.
52.2044TROOA::COLLINSThe Universal JuvenileThu Jan 11 1996 20:327
    
    I never read the book `2010', but I saw the trailer for it and got very
    excited.  Then I saw the movie, and it blew bigtime, then I saw the
    trailer again and got all excited again...
    
    `2010' was a celluloid travesty.
    
52.2045POLAR::RICHARDSONBig Bag O' PassionFri Jan 12 1996 01:103
    You haven't read the book?!?!
    
    It's a must, and so is 2061!
52.2046GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Fri Jan 12 1996 01:515
Mr Richardson is absolutely correct - on both counts.




52.2047TROOA::COLLINSToronto TontoFri Jan 12 1996 11:257
    
    Haven't read any Clarke for ages...but he was always one of my faves.
    
    I'd love to see a big-screen version of `Rendezvous With Rama'.
    
    Err...done well, of course (i.e. NOT Spielberg, tyvm!).
    
52.2048SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Fri Jan 12 1996 12:505
    
    >`Rendezvous With Rama'
    
    One of my all time favorites!!!
    
52.2049SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Fri Jan 12 1996 13:322
    Arthur C. Clarke's writing is so exciting that I used to use it
    regularly as a soporific.
52.2050SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Fri Jan 12 1996 13:388
    
    <---------
    
    You need a soporific at your age???????
    
    
     :) :) :) :)
    
52.2051POLAR::RICHARDSONBig Bag O' PassionFri Jan 12 1996 13:391
    Well, it didn't put me to sleep. At least 2010 and 2061 didn't.
52.2052zzzzzzzzzzSMURF::WALTERSFri Jan 12 1996 13:406
    
    Dick,
    
    Arthur Clarke worked on coastal radar during WWII with Ted Humby, a
    DEC retiree.  Going by what Ted says, they used Clarke as the 1940's
    equivalent of Nytol.
52.2053SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Fri Jan 12 1996 14:093
    .2050
    
    Wake up.  I said "used to use."  Now I just read the 'box.
52.2054TROOA::COLLINSToronto TontoFri Jan 12 1996 14:349
    
    If I recall correctly, Brian Cox is also the name of the actor who
    played Hannibal Lecter first, in `Manhunter', and IMHO, he did a
    better job than Hopkins, simply by virtue of the fact that Cox's
    portrayal was so banal.
    
    I mean, really, how could someone as creepy as the Lecter Hopkins
    created become such a successful and acclaimed psyciatrist?
    
52.2055ugh!CRONIC::BOURGOINEFri Jan 12 1996 15:1711
>>    Haven't read any Clarke for ages...but he was always one of my faves.
>>    I'd love to see a big-screen version of `Rendezvous With Rama'.
>>    Err...done well, of course (i.e. NOT Spielberg, tyvm!).

	Rama is one of my ALL TIME favs (although the sequels were a bit 
tedious) - but can you imagine what they would do to it??    It would be 
awful!!    Look what they did to Dune!!!  or Jurassic Park for that matter!

	Hopefully no one will think of it!!!
    

52.2056SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Fri Jan 12 1996 16:5914
    
    RE: .2053
    
    
    >I said "used to use." 
    
    Very relative term.... coulda applied to as late as last week!! 
    
    >Wake up.
    
    Not if you're taking me to a musical, I won't!!
    
    :)
                
52.2057GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Sun Jan 14 1996 20:395
Dune wasn't _that_ bad.  To be absolutely faithful to the book would have 
necessitated a movie 6+ hours in length.

Chele (who reads the series yearly)

52.2058POLAR::RICHARDSONGlennbertSun Jan 14 1996 21:001
    Should have done a trilogy like George Lucas did.
52.2059GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Sun Jan 14 1996 21:136
probably caused by lack of $$$$

I am _really_ forward to the next S.W. trilogy.


\C
52.2060and I'm a very forgiving sci-fi fanACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Jan 15 1996 11:581
    Judge Dread was dreadful...
52.2061CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenMon Jan 15 1996 12:291
    Dredd, HTH, NNTTM, AYS
52.2062ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Jan 15 1996 13:321
    Him, too.
52.2063DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Mon Jan 15 1996 14:129
    
    
    	Saw Pulp Fiction on video yesterday......
    
    	What kind of drugs was Tarentino on??!!
    
    	Pretty good flick, but bizarre!  He been talking to David
    	Lynch or sumthin?
    
52.2064SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Mon Jan 15 1996 14:3010
52.2065WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 15 1996 14:463
    Judy, do you mean Vince Vega (drugs)? He was a heroin addict.
    
    psssst, i watched it again Saturday.
52.2066DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Mon Jan 15 1996 14:505
    
    
    	Ummm.  no.  I mean Tarentino.  He wrote the script didn't
    	he?  I'm wondering what drugs he was on when he wrote it.  =)
    
52.2067WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 15 1996 14:561
    ooops, i missed it.
52.2068USAT02::SANDERRMon Jan 15 1996 20:041
    things got so desperate over the weekend we saw Airplane again...
52.2069BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 15 1996 20:083
    
    	"Airplane!" ROOLZ!!  I could never see that movie too many times.
    
52.2070GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Mon Jan 15 1996 20:089
"Dune the movie" wasn't "Dune the book on film" - I found that the "best" way 
to view it.  Film can *never* paint a character as well as the imagination 
of an author and reader partnership. 
Voice was interpreted badly, as was the Baron, Patrick Stewart as Halleck bore 
no semblance to the character described by Herbert.  But I *still* liked it, 
and know a number of people who only read the book/s after seeing the movie 
(admittedly, with mixed reactions)

\C
52.2071CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Jan 15 1996 20:1112

 I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark last night.  Another movie I never
 get tired of.  


 One can never get enough of Airplane




Jim
52.2072SMURF::WALTERSMon Jan 15 1996 20:208
    I must be getting old.  We rented Pump Friction last weekend and watched
    it up to where Travolta takes the girl to the restaurant.  Then we
    switched off and read instead.  I think I've about had it with the
    stupid senseless violence and drug befuddled mindless chaff that comes
    out of Hollyweird these days.  Not to mention the absolute vomit that
    passes for dialog.   It's not even about decrying violence and
    lawlessness any more.  It's just about packaging it and serving it
    up.   Yes, it is older I am getting.    Grumble, moan, rant.....
52.2073CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Jan 15 1996 20:233

 Hey, but it made a lot of money!
52.2074PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 15 1996 20:248
  >> Not to mention the absolute vomit that
  >> passes for dialog.

   my theory is that after "A Man for All Seasons", they all figured
   they'd never be able to top that dialog, so they gave up.

   but i could be wrong.  there are precedents.

52.2075GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERbe nice, be happyTue Jan 16 1996 10:3712
    
    
    Saw "Showgirls" last night.  I didn't think it was as bad as all the
    critics did.  
    
    
    Also saw "Crimson Tide" a few days back.  Was okay.  Had a terminal
    flaw in it with regards to the message that wasn't received in it's
    entirety.
    
    
    Mike
52.2076CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenTue Jan 16 1996 11:0610
    Films like Pulp Fiction are supposed to be deeper than your average
    Willis/Stallone/Swartzenegger(SP?) etc. bang bang films.  Not that the
    violence component is any better in Pulp Fiction, the film is supposed
    to make you stop and think.  They are more complex in that respect.  IMO, 
    YMMV, etc.  Pulp Fiction is definitely not "deposit your brain at the
    door and enjoy" escapist type movie.  Whether or not you enjoy this
    type of production is entirely up to the viewer.  Reservoir Dogs, Pulp
    Fiction and Natural Born Killers are all from the same mold IMO.  You
    like them or you don't.  
    
52.2077BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityTue Jan 16 1996 11:2112
| <<< Note 52.2075 by GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER "be nice, be happy" >>>



| Saw "Showgirls" last night.  I didn't think it was as bad as all the
| critics did.

	To think that the woman who starred on that used to be on, Saved by the
Bell. She's definitely changed...


Glen
52.2078GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERbe nice, be happyTue Jan 16 1996 11:553
    
    
    Saved by the bell?  Wazzat????
52.2079GAVEL::JANDROWPartly To Mostly BlondeTue Jan 16 1996 12:079
    
    it was a show (well, it is still on) that was on saturday or sunday
    mornings.  it was sort of a 'head of the class' for the less brilliant
    and more juvenille.  i have to admit, i kind of liked it...it reminded
    me of h.s.   another s.b.t.b alumi is tiffani-amber t(something) who is
    another good girl turned bad (on beverly hills 90210).  don't think too
    many of the others made it past the last bell, tho...
    
    
52.2080WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jan 16 1996 12:282
    actually Brian, Pulp Fiction is part of the Tarantino trilogy that you
    missed by one. The third was True Romance, not Natural Born Killers.
52.2081CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenTue Jan 16 1996 12:347
    True, but my point was that these films are more or less in the same
    category.  They are off beat, discordant in a way, violent and there is
    supposed to be a message.  At least this is the way I see it.  I will
    have to check out True Romance.  I did not care for NBK but the other
    two I thought were good.  
    
    Brian
52.2082WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Tue Jan 16 1996 12:3611
    
    > Saw "Showgirls" last night.  I didn't think it was as bad as all the
    > critics did.  
    
    I just rented it last night, too.  I have to disagree, though.  It was
    arguable one of the worst movies I have ever rented.  I have to save
    a spcecial place in cinema hell for things like "Three Amigos" and
    "The January Man," but this is up there.  It might have even been 
    stupider than "9 1/2 Weeks."
    
    - Sean
52.2083WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonTue Jan 16 1996 12:442
    That's cuz you got the R version that was missing all the good stuff.
    ;-)
52.2084WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jan 16 1996 12:443
    Brian, if you liked Pulp and Resevoir i'd recommend true romance.
    
    haven't seen NBK yet... or should i?
52.2085GENRAL::RALSTONlife in the passing lane!Tue Jan 16 1996 12:476
 >Pulp Fiction and Natural Born Killers are all from the same mold IMO.  You
 >like them or you don't. 

I liked Pulp Fiction. I slept through Natural Born Killers. That's the sure
fire Ralston critique. :) 
    
52.2086CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenTue Jan 16 1996 12:476
    Yes Chip, you should.  I recommend two viewings though.  One entirely
    sober and one in the altered state of your choice.  The more
    hallicunatory the better IMO.  Come back and tell us which version you 
    liked best :-).  
    
    Brian
52.2087WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jan 16 1996 12:492
    okee dokee, but i has ta warn ya dat i ain't never seed a talkie
    ah didna like in the altered state. 
52.2088ACISS1::BATTIStwo cans short of a 6 packTue Jan 16 1996 15:316
    
    Saw First Night over the weekend. I like it, but then again I usually
    like any movie that Sean Connery is in. Julia Ormond is quite the babe.
    IMO
    
    Mark
52.2089SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoTue Jan 16 1996 15:325
    "First Night" "Sean Connery" "Julia Ormond"
    
    I think you mean First Knight.
    
    DougO
52.2090SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jan 16 1996 15:346
    
    	First Knight is supposed to be excellent according to the people
    that work at my in-laws video store. Now to just find the time to watch
    it. :)
    
    
52.2091TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::ChrisI come in peaceTue Jan 16 1996 15:363
Brad Pitt is pretty convincing as the stoner dude in "True Romance". The 
best part of a Tarantino movie to me is the dialogue - he always comes up 
with more than a few great sarcastic lines
52.2092LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for her hand in the snowTue Jan 16 1996 15:361
    sean connery...hubba hubba
52.2093POLAR::RICHARDSONGlennbertTue Jan 16 1996 15:571
    i love the way he says "bullets". sounds like "bulletch"
52.2094ACISS1::BATTIStwo cans short of a 6 packTue Jan 16 1996 15:582
    
    <---- down oph.
52.2095LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for her hand in the snowTue Jan 16 1996 16:024
    he does say "bulletch"!!  
    
    now there's a man who just kept looking better as 
    he grew older.
52.209612 MonkeysSWAM1::MEUSE_DATue Jan 16 1996 16:2612
    
    12 Monkeys.
    Bruce gets all sweaty and beat up again.
    Brad is bonkers.
    
    
    Entertaining and very interesting movie.
    
    Dave
    
    
    
52.2097CRONIC::BOURGOINETue Jan 16 1996 16:339
>>    now there's a man who just kept looking better as 
>>    he grew older.


	Remember him in Higlander???     Truely one of the sexiest men 
	ever.


Pat
52.2098LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for her hand in the snowTue Jan 16 1996 16:482
    i haven't seen highlander.  but i've seen "the russia house"
    over and over again.  don't ask me what the plot was ;-)
52.2099SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIRhubarb... celery gone bloodshot.Tue Jan 16 1996 17:047
    
    >don't ask me what the plot was ;-)
    
    You'll just read the book... right??
    
    ;)
    
52.2100SCASS1::BARBER_Afla fla floleyTue Jan 16 1996 17:173
    }}Brad is bonkers.
    
    Brad is sooooooo much more than "bonkers".....  8)
52.2101DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Jan 16 1996 18:0312
    
    
    
    	hubba hubba.......
    
    	I drove the SO a little nuts over the weekend.  We rented
    	"Legends of the Fall" because he hadn't seen it yet and 
    	watched it on Sunday afternoon.  Then on Sunday night, 
    	"Last of the Mohicans", with Daniel Day-Lewis, was on TV
    	Sunday night.  There were a lot of "hubba hubba" 's  and
    	"oof" 's  comin' outta my mouth.  =)
    
52.2102EST::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQTue Jan 16 1996 19:083
Saw "Showgirls" the other night. It was almost, but not quite, an absolute
snooze. Lots of T & A, little else worthy of mention. 
52.2103GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERbe nice, be happyWed Jan 17 1996 11:027
    
    
    The T&A was so plentiful that one really didn't notice it after a
    while.  
    
    
    
52.2104CNTROL::JENNISONA turkey and some mistletoeWed Jan 17 1996 16:596
    
    	Saw "Dolores Claiborne" over the weekend.  I enjoyed it, even
    	though the language was a bit much, and it was a little violent.
    
    	Karen
    
52.2105While You Were SleepingLUDWIG::BARBIERIFri Jan 19 1996 11:319
      I saw "While You Were Sleeping" (again).  I really liked it.
      Sandra Bullock's character, I thought, was irresistable.  I
      thought the wedding scene and the proposal scene was really
      good.  Real nice movie.
    
      I saw Delores Claiborne recently too.  Kathy Bates is an
      excellent actress.
    
    						Tony
52.2106ACISS1::BATTIStwo cans short of a 6 packFri Jan 19 1996 12:542
    
    <---- she also runs a pretty mean motel, too.
52.2107POLAR::RICHARDSONGlennbertFri Jan 19 1996 13:151
    Mark, what's been Perkin you up lately?
52.2108LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Fri Jan 19 1996 13:162
    yes, kathy bates is terrific.  i loved the character she
    played in 'fried green tomatoes'.
52.2109POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tear-Off BottomsSun Jan 21 1996 00:2913
    
    1) "Calamity Jane", 1953 I think, Doris Day & Howard Keel.  Hard to
       believe this is the same Howard Keel as the one in Seven Brides for
       Seven Brothers.  Good family movie.  Rent it.
    
    2) "Sweeney Todd", filmed from a live performance in 1983 or so.  Angela
       Landsbury and some other people I'd never heard of.  Sondheim is my
       idol 8^).  You've got to concentrate on this one.  Not for the kids. 
       Rent it.
    
    I'm still working on "Anne of Avonlea" and I have "The Scarlet
    Pimpernel" in the on-deck circle.
    
52.2110CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Sun Jan 21 1996 02:2710


 watched Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade tonight.  I'd only seen
 it once before.  It was good, but of the 3 IJ movies, none compares
 with the first, IMO.



 Jim
52.2111SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jan 21 1996 12:0710
    
    
    	Saw "Mortal Kombat" last night. Good fight scenes, lousy acting,
    lousy plot. Even the fight scenes weren't that great (a lot of
    hollyweird extensions on reality).
    
    
    	All in all, kinda blah. I wouldn't watch it again.
    
    jim
52.2112LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Mon Jan 22 1996 12:244
    saw "eat drink man woman"...sorta the chinese version of 
    "like water for chocolate"...the cooking scenes were 
    amazing and there's quite a lovely surprise at the end
    of the film. 
52.2113UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTIStwo cans short of a 6 packMon Jan 22 1996 12:332
    
    <------ a cooking movie, Oph??? you really do need to get out more. :-)
52.2114LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Mon Jan 22 1996 12:452
    i've never seen a chef blow a chicken up like a balloon before.
    
52.2115POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselMon Jan 22 1996 13:131
    {gwaargle}
52.2116BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 13:425
    
    	RE: .2114
    
    	Nor have I, but I don't think I'm missing anything.
    
52.2117UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonMon Jan 22 1996 14:035
>    i've never seen a chef blow a chicken up like a balloon before.
    
Wasn't it a duck???

/scott
52.2118POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselMon Jan 22 1996 14:051
    Great set of lungs this chef has eh?
52.2119LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Mon Jan 22 1996 14:052
    you know, now that you mention it, i think it _was_ a duck.
    i need to get out more.
52.2120PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 22 1996 14:154
  it might have been safer with a chicken.  ducks are more likely
  to quack under pressure.

52.2121BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 14:184
    
    	Bonnie, I think the one who actually remembered it was a duck,
    	and not a chicken, is the one who needs to get out more.
    
52.2122UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonMon Jan 22 1996 14:2415
>    	Bonnie, I think the one who actually remembered it was a duck,
>    	and not a chicken, is the one who needs to get out more.
    
Hey - the reason I knew it was a duck is because that is the technique
used when making peiking duck...

Besides, it's was an awsome movie...

Another good film by the same director (and starring much of the same
cast) is called "The Wedding Banquet". Not as good as EDMW, but still
good.

Species (which I saw last night), however, was not an awsome movie...

/scott
52.2123EDSCLU::JAYAKUMARMon Jan 22 1996 14:374
12 Monkeys:

Silly, stupid, boring. Waste of time, money and ozone
52.2124SCASS1::BARBER_Agot milk?Mon Jan 22 1996 14:383
    I have two words for you:
    
    Brad Pitt.
52.2125BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 14:407
    
    	I have an acronym for you:
    
    	BFD
    
    	8^)
    
52.2126MKOTS3::JMARTINI press on toward the goalMon Jan 22 1996 14:451
    Is that a kind of underwear
52.2127SMURF::WALTERSMon Jan 22 1996 14:472
    BFDs. The pitt for your pendulum.
           
52.2128SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Mon Jan 22 1996 14:545
    Saw Jumanji this weekend.  Liked it a lot.  Very, very funny, and a
    film that is rare, one that has real meaning on many levels all the way
    from overt silliness down to deep Freudianism.
    
    The monkey on the stove was priceless.
52.2129el postinoLANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Mon Jan 22 1996 15:494
    i want to see "the postman".  an italian movie that's all the
    rage right now in the artsy film world.  Pablo Neruda lives as
    a hermit on an island and teaches his postman the beauty and
    wonder of poetry.  
52.2130UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPMon Jan 22 1996 15:543
    
    <------ if that's your taste, Oph. Give me Sly Stallone or a Van Damme
    movie anyday.
52.2131LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Mon Jan 22 1996 15:571
    rocky (#1) was enough for me.  i've never seen a van durn movie.
52.2132PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 22 1996 16:129
   >>  i've never seen a van durn movie.

	oh, now you've done it.  there's a movie where, in one
	scene, he's standing facing a guy who's about a foot away from
	him, and he kicks the guy in the head.  pretty impressive,
	i must say.  now i can't think of the name of the movie.
	thanks, Oph.

52.2133LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Mon Jan 22 1996 16:162
        
        .2132  does he make the guy suck his toes afterwards?
52.2134SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras.. doomed to extinctionMon Jan 22 1996 16:1722
    
    
    Bonnie,
    
     Maybe you should get a book with pictures from this one movei I saw..
    :)
    
    I dunno the name or how long ago, but was some sort of soldier brought
    back to life and made into some sort of half robot, half android, half
    human, half something else... :) :) :)
    
     Anyway... these "soldiers" had to have their body temps kept low for
    some reason... 
    
     We were watching the movie with some friends and the women went ga-ga
    when he had to stand in front of an air-conditioner to try and keep
    cool...  All you saw was the gratuitous butt shot, and I swear the
    females did the rewind trick about 3-4 times!!!
    
    
    :) :)
    
52.2135POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselMon Jan 22 1996 16:223
    Women aren't supposed to be visually stimulated like that are they?
    
    I thought it was just guys that were perverts.
52.2136UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPMon Jan 22 1996 16:244
    
    .2132
    
    probably "Bloodsport" or Kickboxer
52.2137UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonMon Jan 22 1996 16:2511
>    I dunno the name or how long ago, but was some sort of soldier brought
>    back to life and made into some sort of half robot, half android, half
>    human, half something else... :) :) :)

Oh - I know this one... it had Dolph Lungrwifhsh(what's his last name???)
and was called something like....

		
Dang!!! I can't recall it... 

/scott
52.2138SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras.. doomed to extinctionMon Jan 22 1996 16:266
    
    >I thought it was just guys that were perverts.
    
    
    
    My understanding is, they drool just as bad as the guys....
52.2139LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Mon Jan 22 1996 16:266
    .2134
    
    |back to life and made into some sort of half robot, half android, half
    |human, half something else... :) :) :)
    
    sounds scary.  this was a van domme movie?
52.2140WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Mon Jan 22 1996 16:272
    The video rental business, and cable, create such a demand for
    "product" that non-actors like van Damme can have viable careers.
52.2141SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jan 22 1996 16:328
    
    
    	re: Van Damme movie
    
    	That was "Universal Soldier".
    
    
    jim
52.2142POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselMon Jan 22 1996 16:321
    Any good?
52.2143CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenMon Jan 22 1996 16:333
    Universal Soldier.  The one where he kicks the guy in the head is a
    different one.  He actually tell his victim he is going to do it before
    he does.  
52.2144MAIL1::CRANEMon Jan 22 1996 16:341
    Sounds like Robocop. 
52.2145SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jan 22 1996 16:357
    
    
    	So so.....I like his kick-boxer movies better. The futuristic crap
    gets old after a while.
    
    
    jim
52.2146SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIZebras.. doomed to extinctionMon Jan 22 1996 16:367
    
    
    Nahhhhh
    
    No robocop stuff... Evidently, it's all internal changes... ie
    zoom-lens eye-ball, more than normal strength, etc...
    
52.2147BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Jan 22 1996 16:378
| <<< Note 52.2124 by SCASS1::BARBER_A "got milk?" >>>

| I have two words for you:

| Brad Pitt.


	Those are the 2 nicest words I know....
52.2148POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselMon Jan 22 1996 16:407
    What about:
    
    Love 
    
    Orgasm
    
    ?
52.2149UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPMon Jan 22 1996 16:406
    
    .2143
    
    reminds me of Billy jack, he does the same thing. "I'm going to kick
    you on the left side of your face, with my right foot" "And, you want
    to know what else? "There isn't a  damn thing you can do about it".
52.215038099::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Jan 22 1996 17:257
| <<< Note 52.2148 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Captain Dunsel" >>>

| Love
| Orgasm
| ?

	The ? must be for the third qualifier......fantasy....
52.21517892::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 17:276
    
    	Van Damme is a moron, basically.
    
    	Dolph Lundgren is a much better actor, and I don't feel like
    	vomiting while watching his movies.
    
52.2152PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 22 1996 17:353
    it was "Universal Soldier".  thank you, James.

52.2153UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPMon Jan 22 1996 17:364
    
    Van Damme movies are basically escapist fare. Never said he was the
    greatest actor in the world, but I *love* martial arts films. Bruce
    Lee, was the best. imho.
52.2154SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIToo many politicians, not enough warriors.Mon Jan 22 1996 17:365
    
    
    Now Bonnie can go out and rent it, so she doesn't have to read the
    book... ;)
    
52.21567983::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQMon Jan 22 1996 17:421
Saw "Shawshank Redemption" last night. Good stuff.
52.2157UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPMon Jan 22 1996 17:477
    
    <------- that was based upon a short story that Stephen King wrote, 
    the title of which has escaped me for the moment. Rita Hayworth
    something. Title of book was Different Seasons, and was quite good, no
    supernatural happenings the whole book.
    
    Mark
52.2158LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Mon Jan 22 1996 17:534
    well, if i were to rent a martial arts movie, i'd rent the
    one where the guy pops up through the mist and swings around
    like a cat.  way cool.  it was either brandon or bruce lee,
    i think.
52.21597892::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 17:544
    
    	Could have been "The Crow", but if that's the one you're thinking
    	of then there's not much for martial arts in that one.
    
52.2160UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPMon Jan 22 1996 17:552
    
    the late brandon lee. the movie is called "Crow"
52.21617892::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 17:575
    
    	Typical, Battis.  Day late, dollar short.
    
    	8^)
    
52.216258379::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselMon Jan 22 1996 18:033
    Frumpy Goes to Madagascar II, The Twilight Years

    Can't get enough of it! 
52.2163UHUH::MARISONScott MarisonMon Jan 22 1996 18:316
>Bruce Lee, was the best. imho.

Ever see Jackie Chan??? He's much better, imnsho...

/scott

52.2164UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPMon Jan 22 1996 18:342
    
    well Scott, considering Bruce is quite dead, I have to agree. :-)
52.2165SMURF::WALTERSMon Jan 22 1996 18:372
    In martial arts movies you'd really need to know when to duck and when to
    chicken.  Unless you want to get kicked in the head.
52.2166CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenMon Jan 22 1996 18:593
    Van Damme and his wife who is a female version him attractivenss wise,
    spend an inordinate amount of time and money supporting orphanges
    around the world.  Very philanthropic.  
52.2167POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselMon Jan 22 1996 19:032
    
    And not only that, they're very kind to people too!
52.2168NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Jan 22 1996 19:043
re .2166:

Looks like _you_ could use a few extra vowels.  Let me call the White House...
52.2169CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenMon Jan 22 1996 19:081
    It's new short speak, use less words, convey same meaning.
52.2170BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 19:2963
    
Golden Globe winners:

MOTION PICTURES 

Actor, Drama: Nicolas Cage, Leaving Las Vegas 

Actor, Musical or Comedy: John Travolta, Get Shorty 

Actress, Drama: Sharon Stone, Casino. 

Actress, Musical or Comedy: Nicole Kidman, To Die For 

Director: Mel Gibson, Braveheart 

Drama: Sense and Sensibility 

Foreign Language Film: Les Miserables 

Musical or comedy: Babe 

Original Score: A Walk in the Clouds 

Original Song: Colors of the Wind from Pocahontas 

Screenplay: Sense and Sensibility 

Supporting Actor: Brad Pitt, 12 Monkeys 

Supporting Actress: Mira Sorvino, Mighty Aphrodite 

TELEVISION 

Actor, Drama: Jimmy Smits, NYPD Blue 

Actor, Miniseries or Movie Made For Television: Gary Sinise, Truman 

Actor, Musical or Comedy: Kelsey Grammer, Frasier 

Actress, Drama: Jane Seymour, Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman 

Actress, Miniseries or Movie Made For Television: Jessica Lange, A Streetcar 
Named
Desire 

Actress, Musical or Comedy: Cybill Shepherd, Cybill 

Miniseries or Movie Made For Television: Indictment: The McMartin Trial 

Series, Musical or Comedy: Cybill 

Supporting Actor, Series, Miniseries or Motion Picture Made For Television: 
Donald
Sutherland, Citizen X 

Supporting Actress, Series, Miniseries or Movie Made For Television: Shirley 
Knight,
Indictment: The McMartin Trial 

Television Series: Party of Five 

By USA TODAY 

52.2171MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Jan 22 1996 19:326
re: Golden Globe winners:

Well, true to form, I may rent Braveheart, but other than that, it's highly
unlikely that I'll see any of the films. And I've never watched any of
the teevee shows.

52.2172LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Mon Jan 22 1996 19:355
    way to go, jessica lange...she was _great_ in 'streetcar'.
    i didn't think about vivian leigh once, not once.
    
    cybil's sidekick should have won instead of cybil...she's
    funnier.
52.2173POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselMon Jan 22 1996 19:361
    She's the horny rich one right?
52.2174LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Mon Jan 22 1996 19:416
    oh, she's so funny!  cybil asked her once, "mary anne, do
    you still think we're capable of falling head over heels
    for someone?
    
    and mary anne replied, "honey, we're at the age now when 
    heels over head will do"...
52.2175BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 19:504
    
    	Wow, I see I'm missing an enormous amount of funny stuff by not
    	watching that show.
    
52.2176POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselMon Jan 22 1996 20:023
    Which reminds me to ask the question. What does "head over heels" mean?
    I mean, check it out now! Unless you're lying down, your head is over
    your heels. So, what's the big deal?
52.2177PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 22 1996 20:033
  one wonders if Shawn will explain it again.

52.2178BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 20:045
    
    	I knew that question sounded familiar.
    
    	I wish I remembered what the answer was.
    
52.2179PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 22 1996 20:063
  you said to think of it as a continuous motion, basically.

52.2180BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 20:144
    
    	OK, thank you.  I remembered the basic premise of the answer, but
    	not the specifics.
    
52.2181PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 22 1996 20:165
    as i recall, it was quite scientific, and involved a discussion
    around gravity as a function of distance from planetary centers.


52.2182BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 20:185
    
    	Waaahahaha!!
    
    	Rolling!!  8^)
    
52.2183BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 21:1120
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    	Walter Matthau, Glenda Jackson, Art Carney, Richard Benjamin.
    
    	Walter is womanizer Dr. Charles Nichols, Art is Chief of Staff at
    	the hospital, and Glenda is the newly-hired secretary [she wasn't
    	on the hospital staff when the movie started, but she joined soon
    	after ... I forget where Walter met her].
    
    	Walter is the womanizing doctor until he meets Glenda, who wants
    	him to be faithful to her.
    
    	The movie is mostly about the relationship, and what happens when
    	work interferes with it.  This is definitely a Walter Matthau mov-
    	ie, so if you like him then you'll like it.  Walter and Glenda are
    	an EXCELLENT movie pairing, IMO [see "Hopscotch" for more of this
    	pairing ... great movie!!].
    
52.2184BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 21:1119
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    	Walter Matthau, Glenda Jackson, Sam Waterston, Ned Beatty, Herbert
    	Lom.
    	
    	Walter is an ex-CIA employee, recently let go [possibly because
    	he was starting to be an embarrassment to the agency, but it's
    	been so long since I've seen it I don't remember the specifics].
    
    	So, now it's time for revenge.  And of course the CIA doesn't
    	want this, so they decide to stop him before he sends out incrim-
    	inating letters revealing some secrets that the CIA would rather
    	not have revealed.
    
    	This movie is a riot ... it's been 5+ years since I've seen it
    	but I feel I'm due to see it again VERY soon.
    
52.2185WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Jan 23 1996 09:202
    yeah but Shawn, i'll bet Van Damme the moron is living quite
    comfortably...
52.2186LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Tue Jan 23 1996 12:1010
    rented 'the dragon enters' last night.  the villain looked
    just like nixon!  so i checked the release date - 1973!  the
    black guy looked like lincoln hayes - big afro and all.  and
    john saxon!  how the heck did he get in this movie?
    
    the mirror scene was great when bruce was going after nixon.
    nixon was using all these nasty weapons and whatnot.
    
    bruce's little squeals are interesting.  but the THWACK!! 
    THWACK! sound effects get a little tiring.
52.2187UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPTue Jan 23 1996 12:255
    
    the movie was "Enter the Dragon" and is a classic martial arts film.
    John Saxon was one of Bruce Lee's students. The black guy was Jim
    Kelly, I believe Bob "Superfoot" Wallace is also in that movie, or
    maybe that was "Revenge of the Dragon"
52.2188SMURF::WALTERSTue Jan 23 1996 12:263
    > THWACK!! THWACK! 
    
    It's prolly a duck with a speech impediment.
52.2189CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenTue Jan 23 1996 12:411
    Or a peech inspediment even.
52.2190BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Jan 23 1996 12:414
    
    	I thought John Saxon limited his career to really bad outer space
    	movies, and "Nightmare on Elm Street 1/2"?
    
52.2191BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityTue Jan 23 1996 13:083

	Don't forget he was the $7,000,000 man on the $6,000,000 series. 
52.2192MAIL1::CRANETue Jan 23 1996 14:432
    I heard that it was Chuck Norris who took Bruce Lee from street fighter
    to stardom. 
52.2193SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jan 23 1996 14:458
    

    	Yes, they appeared together in one movie...I forget the name. It
    was the only movie that Chuck Norris ever played a villain. He swore
    he'd never play a villain again.


    jim
52.2194BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Jan 23 1996 14:507
    
    	Actually, they were in 3 together:
    
    	"Return of the Dragon" - 1973
    	"Enter the Dragon" - 1973
    	"Game of Death" - 1979
    
52.2195MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Jan 23 1996 14:559
How can people stay awake long enough to watch these "martial arts" films?

I find them about as interesting as the shoot-em-up PC games - i.e. "not
very".

I inadvertently bought one of those a few weeks ago - something called
"Stonekeep". I thought it was going to be some sort of graphic adventure.
Everytime you click the mouse, this fist comes out and rabbit punches
whatever you're pointing at. Pretty goddam boring. 
52.2196UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPTue Jan 23 1996 15:052
    
    got news for you shawn, Chuck Norris was in only "Return of the Dragon"
52.2197More accurate than I expected, but not accurate enoughAMN1::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoTue Jan 23 1996 15:0525
    I rented "Quiz Show" over the weekend.  I wasn't expecting much,
    because I've read a lot about the game show scandals, and so I was
    expecting the movie to play fast and loose with history and the
    actual people involved in all of this.
    
    I was pleasantly surprised, mostly.  They pretty much nailed the
    period, *some* of the events, and the characters involved in the events
    that they chose to portray.  That much was extremely impressive.
    
    Less-than-impressive is that by omitting certain information and
    massaging certain other information, they led the audience into
    believing some things that were simply not the case (I tested this
    theory by asking my wife some questions after the movie, almost
    quiz-style :-)).
    
    Granted that they only had two hours, but they could have corrected
    some impressions just with a sentence or two of dialog, and they
    appeared to have actually gone out of their way to create one
    particular false impression.  Oh well, dramatic license and all that.
    
    Still, it's one of the better movies I've seen, but then I love movies
    about old TV (surprise...).  "My Favorite Year" is one of my favorite
    movies, too.
    
    Chris
52.2198BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Jan 23 1996 15:213
    
    	For you, Mark ... the Internet says you're wrong:
    
52.2199BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Jan 23 1996 15:2135
                            Game of Death (1979)

                           Hong Kong 1979 Color


Produced by: Golden Harvest Productions
Sound Mix: Stereo
Genre(s)/keyword(s): Action / martial-arts
Certification: Germany:18
Runtime: Germany:92

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Directed by
     Robert Clouse

Cast (in alphabetical order)

     Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
     Colleen Camp
     Dean Jagger
     Bruce Lee
     Chuck Norris
     Gig Young

Cinematography by
     Godfrey A. Godar

Music by
     John Barry (I)

Written by
     Jan Spears

52.2200BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Jan 23 1996 15:2169
                          Enter the Dragon (1973)

                        Hong Kong / USA 1973 Color


Produced by: Concord Productions / Warner Brothers
Sound Mix: Mono
Genre(s)/keyword(s): Action / martial-arts
Certification: Germany:18 / USA:R
Runtime: Germany:99

Also Known As:
     Deadly Three, The (1973)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Directed by
     Robert Clouse

Cast (in credits order) verified as complete

     Bruce Lee .... Lee
     John Saxon .... Roper
     Jim Kelly .... Williams
     Ahna Capri .... Tania
     Shih Kien .... Han
     Bob Wall .... Oharra
     Angela Mao Ying .... Su Lin
     Betty Chung .... Mei Ling
     Geoffrey Weeks .... Braithwaite
     Bolo Yeung .... Bolo
     Peter Archer .... Parsons
     Ho Lee Yan .... Old Man
     Marlene Clark .... Secretary
     Allan Kent .... Golfer
     William Keller .... L.A. Cop
     Mickey Caruso .... L.A. Cop
     Pat Johnson .... Hood
     Darnell Garcia .... Hood
     Mike Bissel .... Hood
     rest of cast listed alphabetically
     Jackie Chan
     Chuck Norris .... Messenger

Cinematography by
     Gil Hubbs

Music by
     Lalo Schifrin

Written by
     Michael Allin

Costume Design by
     Louis Sheng

Film Editing by
     Kurt Hirschler
     George Watters

Produced by
     Raymond Chow (associate)
     Paul M. Heller
     Fred Weintraub

Other crew
     Bruce Lee (fighting sequences)
     James Wong Sun (art director)

52.2201BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Jan 23 1996 15:2144
                        Return of the Dragon (1973)

                           Hong Kong 1973 Color


Produced by: Concorde - New Horizons / Golden Harvest Productions
Sound Mix: Mono
Genre(s)/keyword(s): Action / martial-arts
Certification: Germany:18 / USA:R
Runtime: Germany:96

Also Known As:
     Way of the Dragon (1973)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Directed by
     Bruce Lee

Cast (in alphabetical order)

     Wei Ping Au .... Ho
     Jon T. Benn .... Boss
     Bruce Lee .... Tang Lung
     Nora Miao .... Chen Ching Hua
     Chuck Norris .... Kuda
     Ho Pich
     Robert Wall .... Robert

Cinematography by
     Ho Lang Shang

Music by
     Ku Chia Hui

Written by
     Bruce Lee

Film Editing by
     Chang Yao Chang

Produced by
     Raymond Chow

52.2202UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPTue Jan 23 1996 15:263
    
    ok, you were right. don't remember seeing chuck in "Enter the Dragon"
    he must have had a bit part. haven't seen Game of Death in ages....
52.2203NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jan 23 1996 15:303
>    he must have had a bit part.

I thought biting was against the rules.
52.2204CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Tue Jan 23 1996 15:393

 It was something he could sink his teeth into.
52.2205BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Jan 23 1996 15:453
    
    	And that should have been "bitten".
    
52.2206Dangling preposition alertCSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Tue Jan 23 1996 15:489

 Bought a previously viewed copy of Maverick last night.  Watched most
 of it (I've seen it a couple times) and will finish tonight.  This
 is one of those movies I don't seem to get tired of.



 Jim
52.2207BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Jan 23 1996 15:5310
    
    	Jim end the sentence with "watching" or "viewing".
    
    	And I finally watched "First Blood" last night.  Saw it years ago,
    	and bought it a few months ago.  Excellent movie.  Supporting role
    	by a VERY young and thin David Caruso.
    
    	And speaking of David Caruso, it's almost time to watch "Hudson
    	Hawk" again, which I also bought a few months ago.
    
52.2208HANNAH::MODICAJourneyman NoterTue Jan 23 1996 15:579
    
    One of the GREAT movies is
    
    "Lonely are the Brave" starring Kirk Douglas.
    I defy you to watch it and have dry eyes at the end.
    
    It is also Kirks favorite movie of all the ones he made.
    
    						Hank
52.2209Lonely are the BraveGRANPA::MWANNEMACHERbe nice, be happyTue Jan 23 1996 15:595
    
    What year is that film from, Hank?
    
    
    Mike
52.2210HANNAH::MODICAJourneyman NoterTue Jan 23 1996 16:0212
    
    It's an oldie, Mike, and one of the few I have bought.
    I'll check the date and get back to you.
    
    I watched this as an early teen and it left such an impression
    on me that I never forgot it. 
    
    							Hank
    
    
    ps. When "Waiting to exhale" came out, I thought it was about the
        Clintons.
52.2211BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityTue Jan 23 1996 16:195
| <<< Note 52.2203 by NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085" >>>

| I thought biting was against the rules.

	It depends on where you bite
52.2212BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityTue Jan 23 1996 16:206
| <<< Note 52.2208 by HANNAH::MODICA "Journeyman Noter" >>>


| It is also Kirks favorite movie of all the ones he made.

	Hank, Shatner was in that film????
52.2213POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tear-Off BottomsTue Jan 23 1996 16:215
    
    Kirk Douglas was a houseboy at my sorority when he attended St.Lawrence.
    
    As if anyone cares 8^).
    
52.2214BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityTue Jan 23 1996 16:282
	I care about anything you have to say, offer, or do, Deb. 
52.2215UPSAR::ACISS1::BATTISMinnesota Fats, RIPTue Jan 23 1996 19:282
    
    <great hoovering noises in background>
52.2216DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Jan 23 1996 21:187
Caught "Puppet Masters" last night. I thought I remembered mixed reviews, 
with some good, but I must have been mistaken. Started out like a fairly 
interesting X-Files, fell to a low level of "seen this 100 times already".
Pure cheese.

So glad I didn't pay to see it at the theatre.
So glad I didn't spend $1.50 for rent.
52.2217POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tear-Off BottomsWed Jan 24 1996 01:316
    
    "The Scarlet Pimpernel", 1934, Leslie Howard & Merle Oberon.  Good, if
    you've never read the book, but what else is new!
    
    
    
52.2218Beat the bad guyTROOA::TEMPLETONNo sugar addedWed Jan 24 1996 01:366
    Deb,
    
    Have you ever seen "Pimpernel Smith"?
    
    The same story with Leslie Howard but brought forward to Nazi Germany,
    same story, different time, same meaning.
52.2219POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tear-Off BottomsWed Jan 24 1996 01:464
    
    Really now!  No, I haven't.  I'll check the video store.
    
    
52.2220TROOA::TEMPLETONNo sugar addedWed Jan 24 1996 02:0818
    My three, all time best movies were all made during WW11.
    
    
    
    "The Crual Sea" with Jack Hawkins (He had the most beautiful voice I
    have ever heard) and "Stairway to the Stars" with David Niven.
    
    "Dangerous Moonlight" Where, one of my favorite pieces of music comes
    from "The Warsaw Concerto" 
    
    They all were made with the hope they would give a lift to the British
    people in a bad time (the stiff upper lip thing) but I always enjoy
    seeing these movies the few times they are shown here.
    
    
    joan
    
     	
52.2221POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselWed Jan 24 1996 02:195
    Planet Of The Apes.

    After all this time, it's still a good flick.

    Don't care much for the sequel movies though.
52.2222BOXORN::HAYSSome things are worth dying forWed Jan 24 1996 08:565
Snarf,  the movie.

Don't go,  it's full of silly people doing silly things like yelling at
Five and Five "2"'s!
52.2223WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jan 24 1996 09:204
    Planet of the Apes! i remember seeing that at the drive-in ('73?).
    
    the big screen really made the scene when CH rounds the bend (on the
    beach) and there is half of the SoL sticking out of the sand.
52.2224MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Jan 24 1996 09:255
> ('73?).


Could be, but it actually came out in '67 or '68.

52.2225SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Wed Jan 24 1996 10:135
    .2220
    
    Prize for you if you can name the composer of the Warsaw Concerto
    without having to consult the movie credits or the liner notes on an
    audio recording.
52.2226WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonWed Jan 24 1996 10:244
>Don't go,  it's full of silly people doing silly things like yelling at
>Five and Five "2"'s!
    
    Undoubtedly it's their crowning achievement.
52.2227WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jan 24 1996 11:043
    re; PotA i believe you're right now that i think of it.
    
     Chip
52.2228"I'm Lieutenant Kennedy Columbo, mah'am"AMN1::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoWed Jan 24 1996 12:3813
    Oh, and the other thing that I forgot to add to my "Quiz Show" note
    was to wonder why Goodwin, the Congressional investigator, went around
    acting like Lt. Columbo for most of the movie.  As much as I liked the
    movie, there were times when I felt like I was watching a Columbo
    episode.
    
    Apparently the guy who played Goodwin is well-known by television
    viewers of some popular series that I've managed to avoid, so I
    could avoid any preconceived notions of what this guy is "like"
    (sort of like Ed Flanders in "Special Bulletin"; I'd had no idea
    who the guy was, so that didn't spoil it for me).
    
    Chris
52.2229POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tear-Off BottomsWed Jan 24 1996 12:455
    
    .2225
    
    I know, I know!  Pick me!  {fidget fidget}
    
52.2230{boing! Boing!}SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIToo many politicians, not enough warriors.Wed Jan 24 1996 12:471
    
52.2231BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Jan 24 1996 12:475
    
    	And what's wrong with "Columbo"??
    
    	It's only 1 of the best TV shows ever.
    
52.2232Not bad, just kinda strangeAMN1::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoWed Jan 24 1996 13:1412
    Agreed, there's nothing wrong with Columbo, it just seemed strange
    that the actor seemed to be patterning his character after him.  The
    storyline even seemed to be assisting this effort, having the
    investigator repeatedly pop up all over the place, sometimes
    unexpectedly, being ingratiating and charming (though how could he
    be as charming as the Van Doren character, who practically oozed
    charm?), breaking down the suspects' defenses, and so on.
    
    I wonder what the actual Goodwin guy thought of all this.  It wasn't
    a bad thing, but it was noticeable.
    
    Chris
52.2233BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Jan 24 1996 13:214
    
    	Looks like I'll have to watch this movie just for the "Columbo"-
    	like character.
    
52.2234EST::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQWed Jan 24 1996 13:312
Rented "Ed Wood" the other night.
Now, of course, we'll have to get ahold of "Plan 9 From Outer Space" somehow.
52.2235Lots of goodies there for us Old-TV fansAMN1::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoWed Jan 24 1996 13:4814
    More on "Quiz Show":
    
    If you're old enough to remember Jack Barry, particularly the
    younger Jack Barry who was on "Twenty-One" and "Tic Tac Dough"
    (not to mention "Winky Dink and You" for the younger set), this
    movie is a hoot, because they actually found an actor who not only
    resembles a younger Barry in face and voice, but the guy took the
    trouble to nail Barry's posture, mannerisms, gestures, inflections,
    and so on.  Even though he was a minor character in the movie
    (strange, since he was a co-producer as well as the host), they
    gave him the added dimensions of being both somewhat vain and a
    ladies' man off-camera.
    
    Chris
52.2236SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Wed Jan 24 1996 15:316
    .2235
    
    > somewhat vain and a
    > ladies' man off-camera.
    
    DING!  Someone's talking about Jack Barry in here.  He was both.
52.2237Tacky Game Show Hosts for 11 pointsDECWIN::RALTOClinto Barada NiktoWed Jan 24 1996 15:5612
    >> DING!  Someone's talking about Jack Barry in here.  He was both.
    
    So... what do I win?
    
    Anyway, how would we know this?  When I saw this in the movie, for
    a minute I thought that someone had confused Jack Barry and Jack
    *Bailey* (host of the odious "Queen for a Day"), who was widely
    perceived as the vain ladies' man type.  Apparently Bailey was
    quite popular with the female viewing audience.  I cannot understand
    why; to me he looked like a used car salesman.
    
    Chris
52.2238SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Wed Jan 24 1996 17:063
    Yeah, Jack Bailey looked sleazy, that pencil mustache and all.  You'd
    know Barry was vain and a ladies' man if you were a little older,
    maybe.
52.2239POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tear-Off BottomsWed Jan 24 1996 18:499
    
    .2225
    
    {FIDGET FIDGET FIDGET}
    
    {WAVE}
    
    {SQUIRM}
    
52.2240NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jan 24 1996 18:511
Deb, you may go to the bathroom.
52.2241love to watch 'em squirm ;-)CLYDE::KOWALEWICZ_Mjust a slob like one of usWed Jan 24 1996 18:558
52.2242POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tear-Off BottomsWed Jan 24 1996 19:356
    
    How long do I have to wait for Joan to answer before I'm allowed to
    answer?!
    
    My brain is starting to cramp.
    
52.2243Am I right?TROOA::TEMPLETONNo sugar addedThu Jan 25 1996 11:5416
    2225
    
    Deb,
    
    Sorry to keep you waiting, I blew my PC at home (again) and getting in
    here during the day, works like a conjuring trick for me, I type the
    word NOTES and my boss pops out of the elevator.
    
    I think his name is Addison (sp), I do not have anything to check that
    with, the only record I ever had was a 78 that moved out when my son
    did, so far the only CD I have seen it on, it was played by Duke
    Ellington and although I like jazz, I would prefer to have the original
    arrangement.
    
    
    joan
52.2244POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Tear-Off BottomsThu Jan 25 1996 12:059
    
    {phew}!
    
    Close!  Close!  Richard Addinsell.  Died during the Queen's Silver
    Jubilee year, that's why I remember.
    
    I'll stop fidgeting now 8^).
    
    
52.2245SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIToo many politicians, not enough warriors.Thu Jan 25 1996 12:2210
    
    >I'll stop fidgeting now 8^).
    
    
    
    Good!!  You might've gotten a wedgie!!!!
    
    
     :)
    
52.2246GAVEL::JANDROWPartly To Mostly BlondeThu Jan 25 1996 12:508
    >>I blew my PC at home (again) 
    
    
    i won't say it...no, i won't...i've thought it, but i won't say it...
    
    %^> %^>
    
    
52.2247WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Jan 25 1996 13:231
    -1 i thought of it, but said naw...
52.2248SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Thu Jan 25 1996 17:4913
    .2243
    
    > so far the only CD I have seen it on...
    
    The CD I have it on is a Philips classical disc, number 411 123, by
    Neville Marriner and the Philharmonia Orchestra, and Misha Dichter at
    the piano.  The record includes several pieces besides the Warsaw
    Concerto, among them Litolff's delightful Scherzo from Concerto
    Symphonique, Op. 102.
    
    The Warsaw Concerto is also available on a London classical CD, number
    430 726, with Cristina Ortiz on piano.  This recording also has other
    stuff, the mix is different but also includes the Litolff.
52.2249POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselThu Jan 25 1996 17:522
    Anybody know much about the new Digital Video Disk? They say it will be
    the VCR killer someday.
52.2250ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Jan 25 1996 18:302
    
    <---- are we branching out of computers Glenn??? :-)
52.2251ThanksTROOA::TEMPLETONNo sugar addedThu Jan 25 1996 18:3910
    .2248
    
    Thanks for the tip.
    
    Now I have at least a disc name and number to go by, maybe I can order
    it.
    
    
    
    joan
52.2252TROOA::BUTKOVICHI come in peaceMon Jan 29 1996 03:0612
    Rented "Waterworld" and "Clueless" this weekend.  Both were a lot
    better than my expectations.  WW had been so panned by the critics that
    I never bother to see it in the theatre - too bad, because I think it
    would have been great to see it on a big screen. Good bungy jump! Just
    curious - does anybody know if it made back it's costs?
    
    I rented "Clueless" because it was supposed to be loosely based on Jane
    Austin's "Emma".  I must admit that I did laugh a couple of times at
    some things that are probably considered kind of moronic by some
    standards.  Gwenyth Paltrow is filming the lead role in a serious
    adaptation of "Emma" and it will be interesting to compare the two
    stories.
52.2253a real stinkah...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseMon Jan 29 1996 13:137
    
      Well, I saw Waterworld.  It is easily the worst movie Kevin
     Costner ever had a part in.  The sheer gratuitous absurdity
     tossed into a stupid premise, the pointless stunts done not for
     any plot purpose, the wooden dialogue and acting.  Don't bother.
    
      bb
52.2254POLAR::RICHARDSONCaptain DunselMon Jan 29 1996 13:251
    Well then, I guess I'll have to see it now.
52.2255WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 29 1996 14:271
    re; wooden dialogue... did most actors have prosethetics?
52.2256Dave Barry on "WaterWorld"BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 29 1996 14:276
	AUGUST... Kevin Costner finally came out with his long-awaited,
spectacularly expensive motion picture WATERWORLD, which is set in the future,
after some kind of horrible calamity has struck the Earth wiping out all traces
of acting ability.

52.2257Dave Barry on nuclear testing ...BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 29 1996 14:395
	Abroad, France threatened to test nuclear devices in the South Pacific,
but backed down at the last minute when the United States threatened to
retaliate by executing Jerry Lewis. And speaking of movie stars, in...

52.2258CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitMon Jan 29 1996 15:286
    Saw the film "Se7en" on Friday.
    
    A good film with an unexpected ending.
    
    Dunno if it`s the absolute classic like it was billed to be though.
    
52.2259CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Feb 01 1996 01:4818

 Watched "Play Misty for Me" tonight..hadn't planned on watching TV, but there 
 it was.  AFter that first came out years ago, I could not watch Jessica Walter 
 in any other movie without thinking of her rold in PMfM.

 ...and then I happened to click over to Lifetime and there was "Who is Julia", 
 the heart wrenching tale of the first recipient of a brain transplant, or was
 she the donor..anyway, an attractive model was killed in..no it was a housewife
 who was killed, hmm..anyway..the attractive model's brain was transplanted into
 the body of the housewife, which resulted in a confused husband of the house-
 wife, and angry husband/SO of the attractive model, and plenty of therapists
 to go around..one day I'm going to tape this one just to see if I can make it
 all the way through it.



 Jim
52.2260CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenThu Feb 01 1996 12:242
    PMfM is one of the greatest thrillers IMO.  I loved watching that back
    in school when it seemed it was on monthly.  
52.2261at last, one I liked...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseMon Feb 05 1996 17:176
    
      Rented "Forget Paris", the Billy Crystal vehicle.
    
      I thoroughly enjoyed this movie - funny romantic comedy.
    
      bb
52.2262PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 05 1996 17:213

   .2261  Some of Crystal's little asides were very funny.
52.2263SCASS1::BARBER_Ai was up above itMon Feb 05 1996 17:243
    12 Monkeys - What was up with the ending anyway??
    
    "Get OUTTA my chair!!"  hahaha 8)
52.2264hmmmGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseMon Feb 05 1996 17:264
    
      12 Monkeys ?  Ain't seen iy yet - I take it you liked ?
    
      bb
52.2265SUBSYS::NEUMYERLongnecks and Short StoriesMon Feb 05 1996 17:277
    
    Re .2263  
    
    What was wrong withg the ending?
    
    
    ed
52.2266SCASS1::BARBER_Ai was up above itMon Feb 05 1996 17:294
    The movie was excellent, but the ending left something to be desired.
    
    Okay, so he was the little boy, and the little boy saw himself gettin
    killed.  So what?  Why end it that way???
52.2267SUBSYS::NEUMYERLongnecks and Short StoriesMon Feb 05 1996 17:356
    
    
    I think it was because it explains the dreams he was having. He kept
    'seeing' this incident but not understanding it.
    
    ed
52.2268TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::ChrisI come in peaceMon Feb 05 1996 18:052
Boy, you guys would really be in trouble if you posted that info in the 
movie conference without spoilers!
52.2269SCASS1::BARBER_Ai was up above itMon Feb 05 1996 18:173
    Promise?
    
    8)
52.2270USAT05::HALLRCome to the Throne of GraceMon Feb 05 1996 19:091
    everyone's Gonna die once...
52.2271BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Feb 05 1996 19:254
    
    	Yeah, especially if someone like me, who hasn't seen the movie
    	yet, happens to read a spoiler.
    
52.2272PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 05 1996 19:283
    Shawn, do you happen to know where I can find a listing for
    the Boston Film Festival?

52.2273BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Feb 05 1996 19:298
    
    	I had the list, typed in the whole thing last week, but now I
    	can't seem to find it.
    
    
    	I watched "Who's Harry Crumb" yesterday ... the best John Candy
    	movie ever.  What a riot!!
    
52.2274WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Feb 06 1996 09:582
    watched Dolores Clairborne(sp?) Saturday. typical retread plot with
    some good acting.
52.2275TROOA::BUTKOVICHI come in peaceTue Feb 06 1996 14:117
    Finally got around to watching "Some Like it Hot" last night - what a
    hoot!  Jack Lemmon was great as Delores, and Tony Curtis was a fairly
    nice looking lady (whose name I forget... Jsomethingorother?) The scene
    on the train where all the band ladies climb up into Delores' bunk for
    a pj party, and the scene where Jack is dressed up as a bellhop but
    forgot to take off his heals as he is pushing Tony through the lobby in
    a wheelchair had my LOL (but not quite ROTFLMAO)
52.2276BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 06 1996 14:127
    
    	I saw "The Naked Gun 33 1/3" last night ... what a riot these
    	movies are!!
    
    	I was all set to watch "Barton Fink" [haven't seen it yet] when
    	"The Naked Gun" started on cable.  So "Barton Fink" had to wait.
    
52.2277LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Tue Feb 06 1996 14:152
    barton fink is one strange movie.  bizarre and gruesome.
    i liked it.
52.2278PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Feb 06 1996 14:198
    i adore John Turturro, and the Coen Bros., but "Barton Fink"
    was a bit too strange, even for me.  maybe i need to watch it
    again.

    watched "The Usual Suspects" last night.  purty interesting.
    Gabriel Byrne is always, well, let's say he's attractive.
    
52.2279BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 06 1996 14:275
    
    	If you like John Turturro, check out "Brain Donors".
    
    	That movie redefines the word "zany".
    
52.2280LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Tue Feb 06 1996 14:287
    |"Barton Fink" was a bit too strange, even for me.
    
    yes, definitely the stuff nightmares are made of.
    even the wallpaper thing was creepy.
    
    goody!  i've been waiting for "the usual suspects" 
    to come out in video!
52.2281PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Feb 06 1996 14:326
>    	If you like John Turturro, check out "Brain Donors".

	i've seen it.  there were some funny moments, but
	it wasn't one of my favorites of his.  "Miller's Crossing"
	and "Mac" were excellent.

52.2282BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityTue Feb 06 1996 14:5522

	Black Sheep was the #1 rated film this week. It hauled in $10.59 
million. How? Why? Did anyone see it? was it good?


	I mean, in one weeks time it made more money than:


		Movie		  Days Played   $ in millions
                ----------------  -----------   -------------
		Dead Man Walking      38       		9.9
		Screamers	      10		5.14		
		Restoration           38		1.84


	And it almost totaled the earnings from:

		Leaving Las Vegas    101	       11.52



52.2283TROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::ChrisI come in peaceTue Feb 06 1996 14:582
re: "Black Sheep" - I don't even remember this one being advertised -
who stars in it?
52.2284ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunTue Feb 06 1996 15:022
    
    <--- Robert Conrad. nnttm
52.2285BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 06 1996 15:1013
    
    	Always a big help, Battis.  You and Henderson could form some
    	sort of a company that goes out of their way to help anyone and
    	everyone ... and you'd be paid based on the extent of the help
    	provided.  But I'd suggest not quitting your day jobs.
    
    	That's the new movie with Chris Farley and David Spade.
    
    	But $11M isn't all that high ... granted, it's about $11M more
    	than I think those 2 should generate for movie revenue, but I
    	guess that's beside the point.  "Batman" I or II made $50M+ in
    	its 1st weekend.
    
52.2286BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityTue Feb 06 1996 15:157


	Shawn, there are plenty of movies that have done better. I'm just
wondering how a movie like leaving las vegas can win so many awards, but only
make 11 mil in 101 days out, while this movie, which looks stupid in the
previews, makes so much in just 3 days....
52.2287WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonTue Feb 06 1996 15:185
>	Black Sheep was the #1 rated film this week. It hauled in $10.59 
>million. How? Why? Did anyone see it? was it good?
    
     It caters to the immense market for brain dead sight gags and lowbrow
    humor. See also "Dumb and Dumber", Jim Carrey, etc.
52.2288BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 06 1996 15:237
    
    	That just about sums it up.
    
    	Of course, there's nothing wrong with mindless humor now and
    	then, but you can't judge a movie's merit by box-office revenue
    	alone.  [Serious deja-vu feeling here.]
    
52.2289POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatTue Feb 06 1996 15:241
    Well then! Count me in!
52.2290... but I don'tTROOA::trp669.tro.dec.com::ChrisI come in peaceTue Feb 06 1996 15:341
I might go see mindless humour IF i though Chris Farley was funny...
52.2291BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 06 1996 16:063
    
    	Same here.  That's why I haven't seen "Tommy Boy" yet.
    
52.2292SCASS1::BARBER_AThat weren't no easy thaingTue Feb 06 1996 16:073
    Tommy Boy was great, overall.
    
    Had some really stupid parts in it, just like most new comedies...
52.2293CPEEDY::MARKEYHe's ma...ma...ma...mad sirTue Feb 06 1996 16:2633
    
    I purchased a new LaserDisk player, so over the weekend I rented
    a buncha movies. My primary goal was to find good LaserDisk
    eye candy, or at least movies that had special editions not
    available on icky VHS media.
    
    The first one was the extended (40 extra minutes) version of
    The Abyss (Ed Harris, Mary Elizabeth Mastramumblemuble...)
    I'm a big James Cameron fan (Alien, Aliens, Terminator, T2,
    etc.) and I liked the story behind the Abyss. My wife is a
    marine biologist/SCUBA type, so we're fascinated by all the
    diving technology too.. the extended version has a subplot
    about the aliens sending tidal waves to retaliate for Michael
    Beihn launching the nuke... not particularly riveting, but
    it is available only on the LaserDisk version...
    
    Then I watched a Todd Rundgren/Utopia video retrospective that
    was really cool. Great songs: "Feet Don't Fail Me Now", "Crazy",
    "Cry Baby", "Love In Action"... good "oh my God, look at
    what people were wearing in 1979!" goofiness footage too...
    
    Then I watched Waterworld which I'd describe as a "Damp Mad Max".
    It did have some interesting visuals though and the references
    to Captain Hazelwood ("Saint Bob") were hillarious, but overall
    this was an astonishingly lame movie.
    
    Apollo 13 was excellent, but... if I were to tell the truth, I
    enjoyed the PBS special more....
    
    I also rented some T&A movie so I could test the still frame
    buffer on my player... :-)
    
    -b
52.2294CONSLT::MCBRIDEpack light, keep low, move fast, reload oftenTue Feb 13 1996 15:519
    Saw the middle nad end of Nell last night.  Jodie Foster continues to
    be one of my all time favorite actresses.  Quite a touching story.  
    
    I also got to watch a real gripping film last night afterwards.  The
    acting and depth of plot were unparalleled in any production I have
    seen in recent months.  Chained Heat II with Bridgitte Neilson.  I
    think it was a thinly disguised advert for Dow-Corning.  
    
    
52.2295NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Feb 13 1996 16:154
>                            Chained Heat II with Bridgitte Neilson.  I
>    think it was a thinly disguised advert for Dow-Corning.  
    
Isn't she an opera singer?
52.2296recommendedSX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoTue Feb 13 1996 16:1613
    We rented In the House of the Spirits over the weekend.  Stellar cast,
    including Jeremy Irons, Antonio Banderas, Glen Close, Wynona Rider, and
    Meryl Streep.  It was really great- the character development of Irons
    as 'patron', the family interactions with his sister (Close), his wife
    (Streep), his bastard son (Banderas) and his daughter (Rider)
    throughout his life, coupled with gratuitous political farce in typical
    south american terms, were all well-mixed and stunningly well acted.
    Close did not irritate me as she usually does, Rider and Streep were as
    captivating as ever, and Irons played his part magnificently.
    
    Based on the Isabel Allende novel.
    
    DougO
52.2297DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Feb 13 1996 16:178
Jodie Foster is really doing great work these days, but I thought Nell's
ending speech in court pushed the idea of suspending disbelief a bit too
much. Otherwise wonderful film.

Anyone see "Murder in the First"? Interesting '40's courtroom film about
torture at Alcatraz. Kevin Bacon, whom I haven't cared for much in the past,
was VERY interesting in this role. I got the feeling that this might have
been a dramatization of real events, but I never heard for sure.
52.2298SMURF::WALTERSTue Feb 13 1996 16:203
    .2296
    
    I second that.  One of the very best.
52.2299LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Tue Feb 13 1996 16:405
    jeremy irons is interesting in everything he does.  sometimes
    his characters are downright weird.  in one movie (i forgot the
    name), he played twin brothers, both of whom were gynecologists.
    they fell in love with the same woman, and then slowly self-
    destructed.  tres bizarre.
52.2300SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIHe's no lackey!! He's a toady!!Tue Feb 13 1996 16:425
    
    
    Anybody see "Dead Man Walking"??
    
    Is it a feel-good, perp-as-victim movie???
52.2301SMURF::WALTERSTue Feb 13 1996 16:421
    "Moonlighting" is one of his best.
52.2302POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatTue Feb 13 1996 16:431
    Isn't it up for an award or two?
52.2303BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 13 1996 16:446
    
    	Bruce, Kevin Bacon has done some GREAT stuff.
    
    	Check out "Tremors", "She's Having a Baby", "He Said She Said" and
    	[1 of my all-time favorites] "The Big Picture".
    
52.2304WAHOO::LEVESQUEmemory canyonTue Feb 13 1996 17:198
    >jeremy irons is interesting in everything he does.  sometimes
    >his characters are downright weird.  in one movie (i forgot the
    >name), he played twin brothers, both of whom were gynecologists.
    >they fell in love with the same woman, and then slowly self-
    >destructed.  tres bizarre.
    
     Dead Ringer. The one had some seriously scary looking gynecological
    instruments. That was a different movie...
52.2305POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of PerditionTue Feb 13 1996 17:206
    
    >seriously scary looking gynecological instruments
    
    tautology alert.
    
    
52.2306NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Feb 13 1996 17:361
That was based on a true story.  Happened in NYC in the '70s, I believe.
52.2307BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 13 1996 18:298
    
    	Saw most of "Every Breath" last night, starring Judd Nelson and
    	Joanna Pacula.  She is gorgeous.
    
    	Strange movie ... wish I could've stayed awake to see the end,
    	since this is the 2nd time I've seen some of it and missed the
    	end [but it was almost 3:00 this morning when I fell asleep].
    
52.2308ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunTue Feb 13 1996 18:381
    <--- doesn't that belong in the Most Boinkable Celebrity topic?
52.2309BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 13 1996 18:415
    
    	No, because I wrote 4 lines about the movie and 1 line about her.
    
    	Majority rules, you know.
    
52.2310POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatTue Feb 13 1996 18:424
    I thought the girl who was the singer in Mr. Holland's Opus was
    beautiful. From what I could tell, it was her voice too.
    
    That movie was a tear jerker.
52.2311BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 13 1996 19:225
    
    	See, THAT should have been in the "boinkable" note.
    
    	2 lines about her, and 1 line about the movie.
    
52.2312POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatTue Feb 13 1996 19:251
    All three lines were about the movie.
52.2313SNAX::BOURGOINEWed Feb 14 1996 11:315

	Saw WaterWorld last weekend = I wonder if Ed Wood "came back"
	to direct that???.....The WORST movie I have seen in a very
	long time....
52.2314ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunWed Feb 14 1996 12:283
    
    <--- I could be wrong, but I thought Costner directed that as well as
    starred in it.
52.2315LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Wed Feb 14 1996 12:381
    costner's just a pretty face.  can't act to save his life.
52.2316POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatWed Feb 14 1996 12:401
    <---- Finally! Somebody agrees with me!
52.2317BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Feb 14 1996 14:164
    
    	I agree with you, too, except the "pretty face" part.  I don't	
    	find him attractive.
    
52.2318LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Wed Feb 14 1996 14:422
    has anyone seen 'sense and sensibility'?  i've heard very
    favorable reviews...thought i might check it out this weekend.
52.2319CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Wed Feb 14 1996 14:5810
>    has anyone seen 'sense and sensibility'?  i've heard very
>    favorable reviews...thought i might check it out this weekend.


  according to box office receipts, many people have.



 hth
52.2320LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Wed Feb 14 1996 15:031
    that henderson sure is a wise guy.
52.2321ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunWed Feb 14 1996 15:442
    
    he's also smart too.
52.2322BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityWed Feb 14 1996 20:323

	I agree with Shawn on Costner.....
52.2323GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERCONFUSIONThu Feb 15 1996 09:285
    
    
    He's definitely had some good flicks.  Field of Dreams, Robin Hood,
    etc.
    
52.2324BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityThu Feb 15 1996 10:493

	Mike, what year did the movie Etc come out?
52.2325dunnoGRANPA::MWANNEMACHERCONFUSIONThu Feb 15 1996 11:041
    
52.2326didn't care fer itGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseThu Feb 15 1996 12:269
    
      I guess I'm a real geek noodnik.  When we rented Robin Hood,
     I found myself jumping up and down over all the anarchronisms.
    
      A telescope, indeed.  Not invented - centuries too soon.
    
      Printed wanted posters !   Gutenberg be still.
    
      For all that cash, can't they rent a historian.  Cripes.
52.2327SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIHe's no lackey!! He's a toady!!Thu Feb 15 1996 12:4915
    
    
    <------
    
    Doncha love it!!!
    
    Caught part of one of the Dirty Harry (clint Eastwood) movies the other
    night...  The one where the young, bike cops go offing the bad guys on
    their own time?
    
     Anyway... one of these cops is ready to storm into this high rise to
    kill a bad guy... and he's screwing on a silencer... onto a
    revolver!!!!
    
    
52.2328ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Thu Feb 15 1996 13:265
    re: .2327
    
    Whoops!
    
    Bob
52.2329SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Feb 15 1996 14:3514
    .2323
    
    > [Kevin Costner]'s definitely had some good flicks.  ... Robin Hood,
    > etc.
    
    Costner's Robin Hood was laughable.  Poor design, lousy direction,
    badbadbadbad acting by most of the "actors."  Costner's initial
    attempts to fake a Brit accent were so ludicrous that he was told to
    stuff it and speak 'Murican.
    
    The only good thing in Costner's Robin Hood was the fabulous Sheriff of
    Nottingham played by Alan Rickman, who had enough good sense to realize
    that he'd best play the thing tongue in cheek.  He was FUNNY, the best
    thing in a pretentious film that otherwise should never have been made.
52.2330LANDO::OLIVER_Bmz morality sez...Thu Feb 15 1996 14:401
    alan rickman.  he is ab fab.
52.2331SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideThu Feb 15 1996 14:414
        The only Robin Hood worth multiple watchings is "Men in Tights"
        
        &y
        
52.2332KCPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Feb 15 1996 14:414
  i thought he was good in "No Way Out".  not to mention
  thoroughly delectable.

52.2333downhill since _Bull Durham_HBAHBA::HAASExtra low prices and hepatitis too!~Thu Feb 15 1996 14:420
52.2334BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Feb 15 1996 14:425
    
    	He's a dork.
    
    	He probably doesn't even know how to play pool.
    
52.2335GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERCONFUSIONThu Feb 15 1996 14:452
    
    Guess I just ain't as high brow as you, Blinder.  ;')
52.2336BROKE::PARTSThu Feb 15 1996 16:225
    
    | Costner's Robin Hood was laughable.  Poor design, lousy direction
    
    binder is jealous cuz kevin looks better in tights.
    
52.2337Morgan the MoorWECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Thu Feb 15 1996 16:242
    I agree with Binder.  Costner's Robin Hood was a travesty,
    especially the African-American sidekick nonsense.
52.2338SMURF::WALTERSThu Feb 15 1996 16:302
    Hey! The moor has long been part of the Robin Hood legend.  He's been a
    feature of every TV Robin Hood since the '50s....
52.2339NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Feb 15 1996 16:311
Obviously John Griffin looks lousy in tights too.
52.2340GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesThu Feb 15 1996 16:323
re: .2329

Dick, why don't you tell us what you really think??   :)
52.2341Showgirls wins big!SWAM1::MEUSE_DAThu Feb 15 1996 19:0512
    
    "Showgirls"
    
    Won the Golden Razzie for Worst Picture
    Elizabeth Berkley won for Worst Actress.
    Kyle McLachlan for Worst Actor
    
    Nominated for 13 Razzies, even though there are only 11 categories.
    
    gee...glad I only paid a buck to rent.
    
    
52.2342BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityThu Feb 15 1996 20:581
<---bet she wishes she was still on, "Saved by the Bell"! :-)
52.2343ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Feb 16 1996 12:243
    
    Kevin Costner is a good actor, period. Field of Dreams, and Dances
    with Wolves were great. enough said, I have spoken.
52.2344CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesFri Feb 16 1996 12:241
    Are you really finished or are you just teasing us?  
52.2345Qualified judge?PSDV02::SURRETTETheCluePhoneIsRinging,AndIt'sForYOU.Fri Feb 16 1996 12:2915
    
    
    .re 2343
    
    
    This coming from a person who extols the entertainment 
    value of television programs such as BH90210 and Melrose
    Place. 
    
    Where's that grain of salt?
    
    :^)
    
    W.
    
52.2346ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Feb 16 1996 12:322
    
    ah, but Walt, my taste in movies is better
52.2347FANDANGOHANNAH::MODICAJourneyman NoterFri Feb 16 1996 12:3416
    
    I've said it before and I'll say it again...
    
    Rent "Fandango". Costner is in it but not really a starring role.
    
    Still, there are two scenes that have to be a couple of
    the funniest scenes ever recorded.
    
    One with the car stranded next to the train tracks and
    the best one involving skydiving. 
    
    It's a very enjoyable movie as they reunite with "Dom".
    
    						trust me on this.
    
    							Hank
52.2348CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesFri Feb 16 1996 12:372
    BTW, I thought Revenge was quite good with Costner and, and, and,
    <insert blank look>, damn....anyway I liked it.  
52.2349SMURF::WALTERSFri Feb 16 1996 12:532
    Costner was pretty good in "The War" and the flick he did with Eastwood
    about an escaped con that kidnapped a kid.  Can't remember the title.
52.2350LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsFri Feb 16 1996 12:573
    costner is to acting what gore is to politics.
    
    wooden.
52.2351GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERgoing, going, goneFri Feb 16 1996 13:134
    
    
    Yup, The War was a good flick, see it if you haven't and the other one
    is good as well.....what's the name of it?
52.2352LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsFri Feb 16 1996 13:141
    Pinochio.
52.2353SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIHe's no lackey!! He's a toady!!Fri Feb 16 1996 13:177
    
    I think you're much too harsh Bonnie, dear...
    
    The only movie I can say that I enjoyed his acting in was Bull Durham,
    but then I used to be a catcher in my younger days so that may not
    count...
    
52.2354SCASS1::BARBER_Acatch a groove and let it flowFri Feb 16 1996 13:173
    The War was excellent.
    
    It reminded me of my childhood in a way.
52.2355LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsFri Feb 16 1996 13:257
    imo, kc is just a mediokra actor who is terribly overrated.
    
    he's like the don henley or the whitney houston of the 
    acting world.  how about that thing he did with her?
    gawd, that was awful.  
    
    and on top of all that, he's probably a democrat.
52.2356CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesFri Feb 16 1996 13:271
    Bodyguard.  Where's the insult/injury topic when you need it.  
52.2357CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Fri Feb 16 1996 13:375

 
....and IIIIIIIIIIIIIIeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyiiiiiiiiii will
 always looooooooove yooooooooooooooooo
52.2358CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesFri Feb 16 1996 13:421
    AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhHHHH!  
52.2359POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatFri Feb 16 1996 14:006
    Don Henley?
    
    He's not only a great song writer, but he has a fabulous voice and he
    can sing and drum at the same time. Don Henley?
    
    Rent the Eagles "Hell Freezes Over" video, the guy blows me away.
52.2360GRANPA::MWANNEMACHERgoing, going, goneFri Feb 16 1996 14:025
    
    
    Well, I'd welcome that song going through my head right now.  I've had
    everyone's gone to the moon since I cought Timothy Leary on the tube
    last night......
52.2361LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsFri Feb 16 1996 14:033
    i can't stand the eagles and i can't stand don henley.
    that pretentious crap they pass off as music sets my 
    teeth on edge.  just my opinion, of course.
52.2362SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIHe's no lackey!! He's a toady!!Fri Feb 16 1996 14:044
    
    
    Besides, Bonnie.... I do believe all the eagles are democrats...
    
52.2363MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Fri Feb 16 1996 14:168
    Isn't Don Henley the guy who sings...
    
    	"You know I can't smile without you....I can't smile without you...
    	 I can't laugh...and I can't sing...I'm finding it hard..to do
    	 anything..."
    
    And then all the macho men and their SO's flick their bicks and sway
    slowly?
52.2364POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatFri Feb 16 1996 14:201
    no.
52.2365BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Feb 16 1996 14:208
    
    	Jack, that was Barry Manilow.
    
    	And that Costner movie was "A Perfect World".
    
    	And "The Long Run" by The Eagles was 1 of the best albums of all
    	time.
    
52.2366LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsFri Feb 16 1996 14:254
    well, sorry they had the long runs.
    
    but, that might explain the source of inspiration
    for their music.
52.2367POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatFri Feb 16 1996 14:433
    Gag.
    
    Sounds like you had some sort of bad experience regarding the Eagles.
52.2368CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Fri Feb 16 1996 14:503

 I've always felt the Eagles were overrated.
52.2369SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIHe's no lackey!! He's a toady!!Fri Feb 16 1996 14:517
    
    >I've always felt the Eagles were overrated.
    
    Me too...
    
    Look how poorly they did against Dallas in the play-offs!!
    
52.2370ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Feb 16 1996 14:524
    
    well bonnie, if you think kc is a bad actor, i bet you think the
    English Channel is a british tv station, or that the St. Louis
    Cardinals were appointed by the Pope.
52.2371POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of ValentinesFri Feb 16 1996 14:563
    
    I like the Eagles.
    
52.2372ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Feb 16 1996 14:572
    
    <--- hey you, where are the toronto piccies?
52.2373POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of ValentinesFri Feb 16 1996 14:594
    
    {cough}
    
    
52.2374SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiFri Feb 16 1996 15:053
    .2371
    
    Bald ones, or do you prefer Goldens?
52.2375POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of ValentinesFri Feb 16 1996 15:093
    
    Bald(ing).
    
52.2376TROOA::BUTKOVICHopen can...worms everywhereFri Feb 16 1996 15:2920
    I thought Kevin was very good in "Silverado" - worth a rent if you
    haven't yet seen it.
    
    I think he's made more good movies than bad (so far):
    
    IMHO:
    
    Good       			So So			Bad
    
    Silverado			Robin Hood		The Bodyguard					
    Dances with Wolves          Waterworld 		Revenge
    Bull Durham       		The War
    Field of Dreams             Amazing Stories
    No Way Out      		Wyatt Earp
    A Perfect World
    JFK
    The Untouchables
    
    
    Were there others?
52.2377BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Feb 16 1996 15:314
    
    	I think his 1st movie was called "Malibu Beach" or something like
    	that.  I'll go find the whole list.
    
52.2378CPEEDY::MARKEYHe's ma...ma...ma...mad sirFri Feb 16 1996 15:3110
    
    RE: Don Henley
    
    Anyone who can write a song like "New York Minute", and get Pino
    Palladino to play an absolutely orgasmic fretless bass part
    while he's at it, is just fine by me. And Henley is a fine singer.
    I was never a huge Eagles fan, but I have to say that most of
    the really good songs they did were Henley penned and/or sung...
    
    -b
52.2379SUBSYS::NEUMYERLongnecks and Short StoriesFri Feb 16 1996 15:345
    .re .2377
    
    I think the title was "Sizzle Beach"
    
    ed
52.2380BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Feb 16 1996 15:3551
                               Kevin Costner

Actor
       1. Tin Cup (1996)
       2. "500 Nations" (1995) .... Narrator
       3. Waterworld (1995) .... Mariner
       4. War, The (1994) .... Stephen
       5. Wyatt Earp (1994) .... Wyatt Earp
       6. Perfect World, A (1993) .... Butch Haynes
       7. Bodyguard, The (1992) .... Frank Farmer
       8. JFK (1991) (GGN) .... Jim Garrison
       9. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991) .... Robin of Locksley
      10. Truth or Dare (1991) .... Himself
          ... aka In Bed with Madonna (1991)
      11. Dances with Wolves (1990) (AAN) (GGN) .... Lieutenant Dunbar
      12. Revenge (1990) .... Cochran

      13. Field of Dreams (1989) .... Ray Kinsella
      14. Bull Durham (1988) .... Crash Davies
      15. No Way Out (1987) .... Tom Farrell
      16. Untouchables, The (1987) .... Eliot Ness
      17. Shadows Run Black (1986)
      18. Sizzle Beach, U.S.A. (1986) .... John Logan
          ... aka Malibu Hot Summer (1986)
      19. American Flyers (1985) .... Marcus
      20. Fandango (1985) .... Gardner Barnes
      21. Silverado (1985) .... Jake
      22. Gunrunner, The (1984)
      23. Table for Five (1983) .... Newlywed Husband
      24. Testament (1983) .... Phil Pitkin
      25. Chasing Dreams (1982) .... Ed
      26. Frances (1982)
      27. Night Shift (1982) .... Frat Boy #1
      28. Stacy's Knights (1982) .... Will Bonner

Producer
       1. Head Above Water (1996)
       2. "500 Nations" (1995) (executive)
       3. Waterworld (1995)
       4. Rapa Nui (1994)
       5. Wyatt Earp (1994)
       6. Bodyguard, The (1992)
       7. Dances with Wolves (1990)
       8. Revenge (1990) (executive)

Director
       1. Dances with Wolves (1990) (AA) (GG) (DGA)

Note: the titles that start with a quote (") are TV series

52.2381CPEEDY::MARKEYHe's ma...ma...ma...mad sirFri Feb 16 1996 15:3914
    
    RE: Costner
    
    I don't care for his style overall. I liked some of the movies
    he did early in his career, but he's gone down hill as his
    popularity grew. With recent memories like "Robin Hood",
    "The Bodyguard" and "Waterworld" to draw on, his career must
    be seriously on the skids... I doubt there are any "Field
    of Dreams" or "Dances With Wolves" left in Costner...
    
    And I think Oliver Stone is a vapor-sucking cornhole, so I
    won't even mention JFK...
    
    -b
52.2382BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Feb 16 1996 15:55121
    	Happened to look at the cast list for "Night Shift", and there
    	are quite a few well-known people who starred in it.  Isn't
    	Monique Gabrielle a model, or am I thinking of someone else?
    
    
    
                             Night Shift (1982)

    Ever since two enterprising young men turned the City Morgue into a
            swinging business, people have been dying to get in.

                              USA 1982 Color

                             [*][*][*][*][*][*]
                             6.1/10 (224 votes)

Produced by: Ladd
Sound Mix: Dolby Stereo
Genre(s)/keyword(s): Comedy / prostitution
Certification: UK:15 / USA:R
Runtime: USA:105

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Directed by
     Ron Howard

Cast (in credits order) probably complete
     Henry Winkler (C:GGN) .... Chuck Lumley
     Michael Keaton .... Bill Blazejowski
     Shelley Long .... Belinda Keaton
     Gina Hecht .... Charlotte Koogle
     Pat Corley .... Edward Koogle
     Bobby DiCicco .... Leonard
     Nita Talbot .... Vivian
     Basil Hoffman .... Drollhauser
     Tim Rossovich .... Luke
     Clint Howard .... Jefferey
     Joe Spinell .... Manetti
     Cheryl Carter .... Tanya
     Becky Gonzalez .... Lupe
     Corki Corman .... Sylvia
     Ildiko Jaid .... Joyce
     Ava Lazar .... Sharon
     Robbin Young .... Nancy
     Ola Ray .... Dawn
     Cassandra Gava .... J.J.
     Mimi Lieber .... Linda
     Ashley Cox .... Jenny Lynn
     Elizabeth Carder .... Dolores
     Dawn Dunlap .... Maxine
     Jeanne Mori .... Marsha
     K.C. Winkler .... Cheryl
     Catherine Gilmour .... Kim
     Monique Gabrielle .... Tessie
     Jim Staahl .... Red
     Barbara Ann Grimes .... Mrs. Koogle
     Richard Belzer .... Pig
     Badja Djola .... Cleon
     Marc Flanagan .... Steve
     Beau Billingslea .... Donny
     Kevin R. Sullivan .... Tyrone
     Julius Leflore .... Franklin
     Floyd Levine .... Sal Carboni
     Reid Cruickshanks .... Sgt. Averbach
     Charles Fleischer .... Prisoner
     Tom Mahoney .... Judge
     Vincent Schiavelli .... Carl
     Jack Perkins .... Tuttle
     James Ritz .... Morgue Worker
     John Boyle .... Leopard Boy
     Brett Clark .... Paradise Doorman
     Paul Kaufman .... Paradise Patron
     Joy Michael Vogelbacher .... Jacuzzi Girl
     Hugo Napier .... Blind Man
     Tom Candela .... Sailor #1
     Edward G. Betlow .... Sailor #2
     Horace Long .... Turkey Man
     Angelo Vighari .... Barber
     Kevin Costner .... Frat Boy #1
     Rick Starr .... Frat Boy #2
     Jim Greenleaf .... Frat Boy #4
     Jason FitzGerald .... Frat Boy #5
     Jeremy Lawrence .... Frat Boy #6
     Shannen Doherty .... Bluebird
     rest of cast listed alphabetically
     Grand L. Bush .... Mustafa
     Brett Baxter Clark
     Markus Flanagan
     Russell Forte .... Frat Boy #3
     Leonard Termo

Written by
     Lowell Ganz
     Babaloo Mandel

Cinematography by
     James Crabe

Music by
     Burt Bacharach

Production Design by
     Jack T. Collis
     Peter Landsdown Smith

Film Editing by
     Daniel P. Hanley
     Michael J. Hill
     Robert Kern Jr.

Produced by
     Brian Grazer
    
52.2383GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheFri Feb 16 1996 16:048
    >>  Rick Starr .... Frat Boy #2
    
    so, this is what he did before selling cars..
    
    and shannen doherty was only 11 or 12 in this movie...couldn't have
    been all that exciting...
    
    
52.2384CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesFri Feb 16 1996 16:083
    I liked Night Shift.  
    
    "Feed the tuna mayo!"
52.2385ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Feb 19 1996 11:455
    
    I saw Bull Durham over the weekend, I liked it a lot. kc is a good
    actor, regardless of you kc hating heathens. Also saw Desperado with
    Antonio Banderos, was good, but Assasins was better. loved those
    guitar cases however.
52.2386GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesMon Feb 19 1996 13:045
Rented "Tommy Boy" and "Waterworld" over the weekend. Tommy boy was so stupid 
that I laughed myself silly. Waterworld was an OK movie. I'm glad I rented it 
instead of paying full price at the theatre. 

Did Waterworld ever make it's money back? 
52.2387POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatMon Feb 19 1996 13:051
    I think WW is about a 100 million dollar loser.
52.2388BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Feb 19 1996 13:203

	I thought it made the money back overseas?????
52.2389POLAR::RICHARDSONI sawer thatMon Feb 19 1996 13:292
    It cost 178 million to produce. I heard it had a long way to go before
    it would break even.
52.2390thoughtful movieSUBSYS::NEUMYERLongnecks and Short StoriesMon Feb 19 1996 14:195
    
    	Saw "Dead Man Walking" over the weekend. Very good movie. Great
    performance by Sean Penn. 
    
    ed
52.2391BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Feb 19 1996 14:265
    
    	Saw "Car Wash" yesterday.  Not as good as I thought it was going
    	to be.  I was expecting lots of cameos and little to no plot, and
    	all I got was 1 cameo and little to no plot.
    
52.2392WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Feb 20 1996 09:571
    -1 Shawn was this the very old "Car Wash"?
52.2393BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 20 1996 12:425
    
    	Yup, from 1976.
    
    	George Carlin, Richard Pryor, The Pointer Sisters.
    
52.2394ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunTue Feb 20 1996 12:453
    
    shawn is a little behind in his movie reviews, must be from all that
    pool playing.
52.2395MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Feb 20 1996 13:072
"Car Wash" is a classic of cheap cinema.

52.2396BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 20 1996 13:085
    
    	Battis, I just saw it on Sunday, for the 1st time.
    
    	8^)
    
52.2397TROOA::BUTKOVICHopen can...worms everywhereTue Feb 20 1996 13:167
    I rented "The Ref" last night - Denis Leary, Kevin Spacey, Judy Davis
    The story involves a guy (Leary) who botches up a robbery  and since he
    can't make a clean getaway, he decides to hide out in one of the
    neighboring houses. The trouble is, the house he ends up at is owned by
    Mr. and Mrs. Bickerson - the dialogue when these two trade off
    insults is very funny (especially if you like dry sarcasm).  And I hope
    Leary gets some good roles - I enjoy his work.
52.2398POLAR::RICHARDSONTrembling LiverTue Feb 20 1996 13:301
    So, a crappy movie eh?
52.2399BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Tue Feb 20 1996 13:453
    
    	That was a great movie, Chris ... Dennis Leary is excellent.
    
52.2400snarfCBHVAX::CBHOwl-Stretching Time!Tue Feb 20 1996 13:480
52.2401CPEEDY::MARKEYHe's ma...ma...ma...mad sirTue Feb 20 1996 15:5825
    
    My LaserDisc pick of the week:
    
    "The Road To Wellville"
    
    	Anthony Hopkins, Mathew Broderick, Brigette Fonda, John
    	Cusak, Dana Carvey
    
    TRTW is the story of Doctor Kellogg, the victorian-era inventor
    of corn flakes (although the idea was commercialized by his
    brother) and peanut butter, and the owner of a vegitarian health
    resort. There are numerous sub-plots, including enamas, prodigal
    sons, business ethics and women's dawning sexuality.
    
    This is an extremely funny movie (best line: "With friends like
    you... who needs ememas!") and also an extremely strange movie:
    Sex, and sexual disfunction in a buttoned up Victorian world,
    is intertwined with frank discussions about flatulence and the
    making of healthy stools. The scene where a group of people try
    to work out the pronunciation of "Dr. Kuntz" is worth the
    price of the rental alone.
    
    SEE THIS MOVIE.
    
    -b
52.2402POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingTue Feb 20 1996 15:593
    
    Enemas.  Would those be sensual enemas?
    
52.2403thanks for lunch and the enemaHBAHBA::HAASExtra low prices and hepatitis too!~Tue Feb 20 1996 16:020
52.2404CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Tue Feb 20 1996 16:058

 
keep your friends close, and your enemas closer.



Jim
52.2405CPEEDY::MARKEYHe's ma...ma...ma...mad sirTue Feb 20 1996 16:0710
    
    > Enemas.  Would those be sensual enemas?
    
    That is implication... that Dr. Kellogg, unable to get much
    satisfaction in the stern due to a bad case of childhood
    mumps, has gone aft in search of pleasure... and was then
    determined to share the gospel of a good colonic bath with
    the rest of the world...
    
    -b
52.2406SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoTue Feb 20 1996 16:236
    colonic irrigations...if I remember the movie correctly, Matthew
    Broderick's character was prescribed five per day.  that was a bizarre
    but I will agree entertaining movie.  Bridget Fonda played Broderick's
    wife; who was the woman playing his nurse?
    
    DougO
52.2407CPEEDY::MARKEYHe's ma...ma...ma...mad sirTue Feb 20 1996 16:338
    
    > Bridget Fonda played Broderick's wife; who was the woman playing
    > his nurse?
    
    An unknown. So much so, that I have no recollection of her
    name from the credits. Beautiful woman though...
    
    -b
52.2408WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Feb 20 1996 17:141
    speaking of Hogan's Heroes Ivan Dixon was also in Car Wash.
52.2409Nice Knockers!!!SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIHe's no lackey!! He's a toady!!Tue Feb 20 1996 17:576
    
    
    Enjoyed seeing "Young Frankenstein" over the weekend, with some good
    friends...
    
    
52.2410"oh, sank you, doktor."POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingTue Feb 20 1996 17:592
    
    
52.2411LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsTue Feb 20 1996 18:011
    yes!  he vas my boyfriend!!!
52.2412SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIHe's no lackey!! He's a toady!!Tue Feb 20 1996 18:038
    
    
    <------
    
    Alright!!!  Another "officiando"!!!!!
    
     :) :)
    
52.2413SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideTue Feb 20 1996 18:082
        "Put the candle..._back_!"
        
52.2414no matter what, don't open the doorHBAHBA::HAASExtra low prices and hepatitis too!~Tue Feb 20 1996 18:100
52.2415CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Tue Feb 20 1996 18:244


 Frahnkenshteen
52.2416POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingTue Feb 20 1996 18:254
    
    "And is it 'Froderick'?"
    
    
52.2417GMASEC::KELLYNot The Wrong PersonTue Feb 20 1996 18:312
    i hate you all!  quoting movie lines is not one of my talents and
    the rest are dubious at best!
52.2418SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIHe's no lackey!! He's a toady!!Tue Feb 20 1996 18:359
    
    <------
    
    Okay then... would you like a ..
    
    
    Roll, roll.. roll in ze hay!!!
    
    
52.2419CPEEDY::MARKEYHe's ma...ma...ma...mad sirTue Feb 20 1996 18:383
    
    Nice knockers!
    
52.2420POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingTue Feb 20 1996 18:394
    
    Bzzt!  See .2409 8^).
    
    
52.2421ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunTue Feb 20 1996 18:396
    
    I love the line from Bull Durham. 
    
    " Nobody has ever hit under 250 by sleeping with me"
    
    that movie had some good lines in it.
52.2422RE: .2420CPEEDY::MARKEYHe's ma...ma...ma...mad sirTue Feb 20 1996 18:394
    
    Yeah, but Andy was talking about the movie... :-)
    
    -b
52.2423POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingTue Feb 20 1996 18:405
    
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    
    8^))))
    
52.2424<snort>! ;*)SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideTue Feb 20 1996 18:410
52.2425BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityTue Feb 20 1996 18:4222

	Boob Cake...the Movie

		In sensoround!


	You'll shake in your seat!
	You will sway back and forth!
	You will think about flotation devices!

	See Boob Cake...the Movie!

	Staring:

		Amanda Hersy
		Suzanne Phleshette
		Betty Ford




52.2426An enematic move.SCASS1::EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairWed Feb 21 1996 04:096
    
    RE: "The Road To Wellville"
    
    I was in Battle Creek, Michigan during the week of the world premiere there.
    
    The people of Battle Creek were not so amused.
52.2427CPEEDY::MARKEYHe's ma...ma...ma...mad sirSun Feb 25 1996 23:064
    
    Well, then joke 'em if they can't take a f...
    
    -b
52.2428ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Feb 26 1996 12:245
    
    watched the 'The Fighting Kentuckian" last night on AMC, John Wayne
    with a beautiful Vera Ralston (sorry Tom, no relation) and Oliver
    Hardy. was a good movie, but not one of Wayne's best. even had Mica
    from Rifleman in there, albeit a lot younger.
52.2429The PostmanLANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsMon Feb 26 1996 12:363
    i finally got to see Il Postino.  what a wonderful movie.
    kind-a sad at the end though.  i think the guy who plays
    neruda also played the old man in Cinema Paradiso.  
52.2430Warning - some scenes are pretty gruesome!TROOA::BUTKOVICHg'day mate, ehWed Feb 28 1996 04:128
    I probably mentioned "Desparado" when I saw it in the theatre.  Rented
    it to watch again tonight - I *luv* this movie.  The violence is so far
    off the wall it's hilarious.  The camera angles, the music, the sets,
    the acting and especially the script - I don't know why, but it tickles
    my funny bone.  And Antonio Banderas is an added bonus - it's his best
    "North American" role.  If you like him and can stand to read
    subtitles, try renting "Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown" or
    "Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down" sometime.
52.2431NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Feb 28 1996 12:003
re .2430:

Who plays Tom Parmenter?
52.2432COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertWed Feb 28 1996 12:331
Me, of course.
52.2433SOLVIT::KRAWIECKILord of the Turnip TruckWed Feb 28 1996 13:098
    
    re: .2430
    
    >"Desparado"
    
    
     Don't bother renting it... moronic at best...
    
52.2434GENRAL::RALSTONFugitive from the law of averagesWed Feb 28 1996 13:448
My wife dragged me to "Sense and Sensibility" last night. Very few people in 
the theatre, so you could hear the women sighing and the men yawning. Very
well made movie with English accents sometimes indiscernible. Some humorous 
parts (at least my wife laughed often). Oh yea, and everybody who was suppose
to get married, got married. All in all a good chick movie. 

The previews were for "Broken Arrow". This 60 seconds of excitment made the trip
worthwhile.  :)
52.2435CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:2110


 I rented "Bullets over Broadway" today.  Not a bad flick, couple funny spots
 in it, typical Woody Allen type stuff, but good.




 Jim
52.2436USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:244
    Jim:
    
    I saw Coneheads, uninterrupted finally from start to finish...even
    played parts a second time to get Ackroyd's descriptions...very funny
52.2437CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:269


 Havent' see that one yet..I did watch "Dragnet" which was on Encore this
 afternoon, though I was drifting in and out of sleep as I watched.



 Jim
52.2438POLAR::RICHARDSONHindskits VelvetThu Feb 29 1996 01:291
    Dragnet blew chunks.
52.2439CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:339


 Yeah, it was disappointing.  But, it was a good sleep inducer this afternoon.




 JIm
52.2440MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Feb 29 1996 01:417
re: sleep inducing movies

I've discovered a great weekend afternoon pastime this winter. Tune teevee
to some inane movie, adjust volume properly, recline in La-Z-Boy, snooze.

Terribly wasteful of time, but quite enjoyable.

52.2441CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Feb 29 1996 01:434


  Yes, an afternoon nap is rather nice..
52.2442CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesThu Feb 29 1996 13:001
    "The virgin, Connie Swail."
52.2443BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityThu Feb 29 1996 13:026
| <<< Note 52.2442 by CONSLT::MCBRIDE "Keep hands & feet inside ride at all times" >>>

| "The virgin, Connie Swail."


	I thought the "Connie Swail" line was better.
52.2444the former virginHBAHBA::HAASjeap jeerThu Feb 29 1996 13:470
52.2445BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Feb 29 1996 20:474
    
    	Connie was played by Alexandra Paul, who co-starred in the movie
    	"Christine".
    
52.2446CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Feb 29 1996 20:483

 I wondered where I'd seen her before.
52.2447BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Feb 29 1996 21:079
    
    	She was also in some sort of horror/drama movie, the name of
    	which I've forgotten now since it's been awhile since I've seen
    	it.  And she's in a recent TV show where she gets to wear a bath-
    	ing suit [maybe "Baywatch", but I'm not sure since I don't watch
    	that show].
    
    	I'll be back in a minute.
    
52.2448BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Feb 29 1996 21:2754
                               Alexandra Paul

Actress
    
       1. Alistair MacLean's Night Watch (1995) (TV) .... Sabrina Carver
          ... aka Detonator 2: Night Watch (1995) (TV)
       2. Cyber Bandits (1995)
          ... aka Sailor's Tattoo, A (1995)
       3. Mixed Blessings (1995) (TV)
       4. Nightwatch (1995) (TV)
       5. Piranha (1995) (TV)
       6. Nothing to Lose (1994) .... Natasha
       7. Paper Boy, The (1994) .... Melissa
          ... aka Paperboy, The (1994)
       8. "Johnny Bago" (1993)
       9. Death Train (1993) (TV) .... Sabrina Carver
          ... aka Detonator (1993) (TV)
      10. Sunset Grill (1993) .... Anita
      11. Kuffs (1992) .... The Chief's Wife (uncredited)
      12. Prey of the Chameleon (1992) .... Carrie
      13. In Between (1991)
      14. Miliardi (1991) .... Giulia
          ... aka Billions (1991)
      15. Laker Girls (1990) (TV) .... Heidi/Jenny

      16. "Baywatch" (1989) .... Lt. Stephanie Holden (1992-)
      17. Perry Mason: The Case of the All-Star Assassin (1989) (TV) ....
          Amy Hastings
      18. Perry Mason: The Case of the Lethal Lesson (1989) (TV) .... Amy
          Hastings
      19. Perry Mason: The Case of the Musical Murder (1989) (TV) .... Amy
          Hastings
      20. Out of the Shadows (1988) (TV)
      21. Dragnet (1987) .... Connie Swail
      22. "Hitchhiker" (1986)
      23. 8 Million Ways to Die (1986) .... Sunny
      24. American Flyers (1985) .... Becky
      25. "Paper Dolls" (1984)
      26. American Nightmare (1984) .... Isabelle
      27. Getting Physical (1984) (TV) .... Kendall Gibley
      28. Just the Way You Are (1984) .... Bobbie
      29. Christine (1983) .... Leigh Cabot
      30. Paper Dolls (1982) (TV) .... Laurie Caswell

      31. Passage, The (1979)

Director
    
       1. Paper Boy, The (1994)
          ... aka Paperboy, The (1994)

Note: the titles that start with a quote (") are TV series

52.2449Oh yeah ...DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Fri Mar 01 1996 19:333
>       23. 8 Million Ways to Die (1986) .... Sunny

Was she the one who "glowed in the dark?"
52.2450SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Mar 03 1996 12:255
    
    	Watch "Clerks" for a good laugh. Drink beer first to enhance the
    effect...:)
    
    
52.2451ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 04 1996 13:053
    
    watched the "Dragon - The Bruce Lee Story" last night. It was ok, I
    didn't realize he had 2 kids. Thought Brandon was his only offspring.
52.2452CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesMon Mar 04 1996 13:052
    Watched the Langoliers last night.  What a lousy ending is about the
    best thing I can say about it.  
52.2453CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 04 1996 14:1110


 Took my son and a friend of his to see "Rumble in the Bronx" on Saturday..
 what a dumb movie.




Jim
52.2454USAT02::HALLRGod loves even you!Mon Mar 04 1996 14:182
    saw the 
    pelican briefs for the 2nd time on Saturday...still good viewing
52.2455NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 04 1996 14:195
> Took my son and a friend of his to see "Rumble in the Bronx" on Saturday..
> what a dumb movie.

When I lived in the Bronx, I once experienced a minor earthquake.  Izzat
what it's about?
52.2456SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiMon Mar 04 1996 14:203
    .2454
    
    Agreed.  Pelican Brief is excellent.
52.2457NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 04 1996 14:201
All my pelicans wear boxers.
52.2458BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 04 1996 14:235
    
    	"Rumble in the Bronx" was the #3 movie last week.
    
    	Looks quite good, IMO.
    
52.2459ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 04 1996 14:374
    
    I could be wrong here, but unless you are a martial arts fan, you
    probably won't enjoy "Rumble in the Bronx". rumble's in the bronx
    probably happen once a week.
52.2460CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 04 1996 14:5910

 ...and I am not much of a martial arts fan.  Admittedly the stunts, etc
 (which Jackie Chan himself performed) were dazzling, but plot wise it
 was dumb and kinda disjointed.




 Jim
52.2461BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 04 1996 15:015
    
    	Jim, you went to a martial arts movie expecting a plot?
    
    	I guess you're not much of a martial arts fan.
    
52.2462ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 04 1996 15:025
    
    <<<< but plot wise it was dumb and kinda disjointed.
    
    well Jim, you just summed up most martial arts films. Long on action,
    short on plot.
52.2463CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 04 1996 15:0813
    
>    	Jim, you went to a martial arts movie expecting a plot?
    
 
         I wasn't sure what to expect.  I haven't seen many martial 
         arts movies.




   Jim    

52.2464CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesMon Mar 04 1996 15:283
    Reportedly, Jackie also did many of his stunts with a broken leg.  Talk
    about a tough dude.  Hopefully he had the decency to speak english to 
    the waiters as well. 
52.2465CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 04 1996 15:338

 He broke his ankle (so my son and his friend [and all the other Jackie
 Chan fans in the audience] said) while jumping from onto a pier.



 Jim
52.2466LANDO::OLIVER_Btools are our friendsMon Mar 04 1996 15:381
    well, which is it?
52.2467MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Mar 04 1996 15:423
There's a particularly good characterization of martial arts films
embedded within Kentucky Fried Movie.

52.2468pier pressureHBAHBA::HAASleap jeerMon Mar 04 1996 15:421
I wonder how many times he had to do that stunt where they broke his leg?
52.246943GMC::KEITHDr. DeuceMon Mar 04 1996 15:4410
    I saw Broken Arrow this past WE
    
    It was pretty good. There were a few technical errors; EMP from
    underground nuke - no. Vic Morrow type incident with Helo would result
    in helo crash IMHO. Good overall though
    
    Waterworld. Not too bad. Interesting storyline.
    
    Bridge at Remargen. With  a good cast including Robert Vaughan. Compared 
    that to the A&E documentary on the same subject. 
52.2470SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Mar 04 1996 15:474
    
    	EMP? Electo-magnetic pulse?
    
    
52.2471MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Mar 04 1996 15:492
And here I thought Broken Arrow was the title of a Jimmy Stewart/Jeff Chandler
flick from the '50s.
52.247243GMC::KEITHDr. DeuceMon Mar 04 1996 15:501
    RE .2470   Yes
52.2473BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 04 1996 15:515
    
    	RE: .2466
    
    	Probably onto, I'd guess.
    
52.2474CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 04 1996 15:5211


 Broken Arrow was also a TV series years ago..dang, can't remember the
 name of the star of the show, but he was at one time married to Barbara
 Eden..dang..Michael Ankara, I believe.




 Jim
52.2475BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 04 1996 15:565
    
    	Lucky guy, whoever he is.
    
    	Schwing!!
    
52.2476NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 04 1996 15:591
Unlike the rest of us, he got to see her navel.
52.2477ASDG::GASSAWAYInsert clever personal name hereMon Mar 04 1996 16:0213
52.2478they din't look OrientalHBAHBA::HAASleap jeerMon Mar 04 1996 16:043
>    Jackie Chan movies are kung-fu Three Stooges. 

Blasphemy!~ Profanity!~ Obscene speech!~
52.2479ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 04 1996 16:074
    
    .2477
    
    :-) :-)
52.2480CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 04 1996 16:108

 I'd never even *heard* of Jackie Chan til this movie came along.




 Jim
52.2481BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 04 1996 16:143
    
    	He was in the 1st "Cannonball Run" movie.
    
52.2482ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunMon Mar 04 1996 16:182
    
    h's ok Jim, I'ma sure he never heard of you either.
52.2483CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 04 1996 16:206
    
>    h's ok Jim, I'ma sure he never heard of you either.


    what makes ayou so sure?
52.2484familiarHBAHBA::HAASleap jeerMon Mar 04 1996 16:214
>    what makes ayou so sure?

I'd think that this would sound a lot like Kevin Kline in _Love You To
Death_.
52.2485SCASS1::BARBER_ASmelly cat, it's not your faultMon Mar 04 1996 16:411
    .2452 I hope you read the book first.
52.2486BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Mar 04 1996 16:566
| <<< Note 52.2467 by MOLAR::DELBALSO "I (spade) my (dogface)" >>>

| There's a particularly good characterization of martial arts films
| embedded within Kentucky Fried Movie.

	YES! That was one of the funniest parts of the movie! 
52.2487POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingMon Mar 04 1996 17:093
    
    "A Fistful of Yen"?
    
52.2488SOLVIT::KRAWIECKILord of the Turnip TruckMon Mar 04 1996 17:576
    
    
    re: 50's Broken Arrow..
    
    Michael Ansara...
    
52.2489BSS::S_CONLONA Season of CarneliansMon Mar 04 1996 17:594
    What was the one good Western movie that Elvis did (where he played
    someone other than an Elvis-type personality)?
    
    Wasn't that the '50s 'Broken Arrow' movie?
52.2490CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 04 1996 17:593

 Well, I was close..
52.2491_Love Me Tender_?HBAHBA::HAASleap jeerMon Mar 04 1996 17:590
52.2492Tender me LoveBSS::PROCTOR_RA wallet full of onesMon Mar 04 1996 18:031
    
52.2493MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Mar 04 1996 18:5215
    Glen:
    
    Remember this part???
    
    Contestant number one....I am asleep...and you are my alarm clock...how
    would you awaken me??
    
    Answer:  I wouldn't.....I'm no ding-a-ling.
    
    HAA  (Sumo cracks his neck)
    
    And as for our American friend....Take him to Detroit....
    
    no.....NO...NOT DETROIT.....NNNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                          
52.2494CNTROL::JENNISONJoin me in glad adorationMon Mar 04 1996 19:2211
    
    	My parents rented "Nine Months" this weekend, which we
    	watched with them.
    
    	99.9% garbage.  The physical comedy at the end was bearable,
    	but the other 80 minutes were a general waste of time.
    
    	I'm also quite surprised at what passes for a PG-13 rating.
    
    	Karen
    
52.2495SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoMon Mar 04 1996 23:165
    But wasn't Kimberly Kipperish wonderful in it?
    
    (That was one of the 6-yr old girls...a classmate of Erik's last year.)
    
    DougO
52.2496CSC32::M_EVANSIt doesn't get better than......Mon Mar 04 1996 23:4713
    Saw "Muppet Treasure Island" over the weekend.  it is g rated and I was
    dragged there by a batch of kids.  
    
    I LOVED IT!!!!!
    
    the one liners were well above my 10-year-old's and her friends'
    heads, but not above mine and Tim Curry was a thcream as Long John
    Silver.  
    
    Miss Piggy definitely needs a course in CDA, although since she
    realizes it, she is well on her way to recovery.
    
    meg
52.2497SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoTue Mar 05 1996 01:046
    I've loved several of the other Muppet movies, in particular A Muppet
    Christmas Carol, and I'm looking forward to Treasure Island.  But I got
    outvoted by Stacey and Erik last weekend, we went to see the completely 
    forgettable Down Periscope.
    
    DougO
52.2498CSC32::M_EVANSIt doesn't get better than......Tue Mar 05 1996 01:378
    DougO..
    Drag them if necessary.
    
    It is really worth while!
    
    Miss Piggy, or the devine benhamina, or boom shakala is fantasic
    
    
52.2499DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Mar 05 1996 14:107
    
    
    	I saw an ad on TV the other day, and if I understood it
    	correctly, they're bringing the Muppets back to television.
    	Michelle Pfeiffer is guest starring in the opener.  It's called
    	Muppet Nights or something like that..........
    
52.2500ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Tue Mar 05 1996 17:239
    
			  (__)
                          (oo)
                   /-------\/ 
                  / |     || \ 
                 *  ||W---|| Moo! {cowspeak for "snarf"} 
                    ~~    ~~  

    
52.2501"Life of Riley" remakes, anyone?MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Mar 05 1996 21:357
Watched "1492 - Conquest of Paradise" recently.

I still can't help it.

Every time I look at Girard Depardieu, I think he ought to be doing
a William Bendix impersonation.

52.2502SNAX::BOURGOINEWed Mar 06 1996 17:013

	Sat. night - watch Cleopatra  = What a GREAT movie!
52.2503CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesThu Mar 07 1996 14:062
    Rented Species last night.  Okay for what it was, escapist fare.  Glad I 
    did not see it in the theater.  Left wide open for Species 2.  
52.2504POLAR::RICHARDSONWalloping Web Snappers!Thu Mar 07 1996 14:121
    I like it. What a babe.
52.2505GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheThu Mar 07 1996 16:449
    
    i, too, saw the muppet movie this weekend...it was most enjoyable.  i
    know my other half didn't want to see it, but i think he is now glad he
    did...
    
    and we rented 'outbreak' over the weekend, too.  very good movie.  i
    liked it.  does donald sutherland *ever* play a good guy????
    
    
52.2506SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Mar 07 1996 16:465
    .2505
    
    > does donald sutherland *ever* play a good guy????
    
    I think he did once, in 1973.  M*A*S*H as I recall.
52.2507_Klute_HBAHBA::HAASfloor,chair,couch,bedThu Mar 07 1996 16:480
52.2508PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 07 1996 16:513
  was he a bad guy in "Gorky Park"?  now i just can't amember.

52.2509CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Mar 07 1996 16:557

 He played a fairly good guy in "Ordinary People".




52.2510WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Thu Mar 07 1996 16:564
    
    His best performance was in The Dirty Dozen.
    
    His rendition of a moron was well done indeed!
52.2511a bit revealingHBAHBA::HAASfloor,chair,couch,bedThu Mar 07 1996 16:572
and he shows his arse in _Animal House_
52.2512BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 07 1996 19:253
    
    	"Invasion of the Body Snatchers"
    
52.2513POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingThu Mar 07 1996 23:4114
    
    I rented "Like Water for Chocolate" tonight.  Rather good, very close
    to the book (the author also wrote the screenplay).  Much
    more...believable, I guess you could say, less fantastic.
    
    Some very artful bits of nudity, completely necessary to the story, not
    gratuitously presented at all.
    
    It was dubbed, but that didn't detract too much from the overall
    picture.
    
    I recommend it.
    
    
52.2514POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Thu Mar 07 1996 23:501
    ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz......
52.2515POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of The Counter KingThu Mar 07 1996 23:586
    
    You and Andy, I swear.
    
    8^)
    
     
52.2516BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityFri Mar 08 1996 00:034
	Does Digital allow you to swear in this file? 


Glen
52.2517CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitFri Mar 08 1996 10:202
    Anyone seen Trainspotting yet??
    
52.2518CSC32::M_EVANSIt doesn't get better than......Fri Mar 08 1996 11:307
    Deb,
    
    I liked it better in the original Spanish with subtitles.  Quite the
    story and good for those who ar having roblems letting their daughters
    follow their own dreams.
    
    meg
52.2519POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Fri Mar 08 1996 12:593
    I have a problem with roblems.
    
    8^)
52.2520ah... hmm... a sharp pair of scissors?BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsFri Mar 08 1996 13:529
    > Some very artful bits of nudity, completely necessary to the story,
    > not gratuitously presented at all.
    
    
    > It was dubbed, but that didn't detract too much from the overall
    > picture.
    
    
    	OK, ya got me. How do you dub nudity?
52.2521[NEKKID PEOPLE]HBAHBA::HAASfloor,chair,couch,bedFri Mar 08 1996 13:540
52.2522BIGQ::SILVABenevolent 'pedagogues' of humanityMon Mar 11 1996 15:5720
52.2523BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 11 1996 16:053
    
    	Gene Hackman is always excellent, and usually likeable.
    
52.2524POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Mon Mar 11 1996 16:051
    Saw "Here Comes Mr. Jordan" last night. What a great old movie.
52.2525BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 11 1996 16:065
    
    	Finally got "Cry Baby" on video.
    
    	What a riot!!
    
52.2526GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheMon Mar 11 1996 16:095
    
    watch 'just cause' last nite.  pretty good movie.  ed harris was very
    good in his role.  the movie was a teeny tiny bit too graphic (for me),
    but it was still good.  and sean connery was super.
    
52.2527SPECXN::CONLONA Season of CarneliansMon Mar 11 1996 16:145
    
    We saw "Rumble in the Bronx" (with Jackie Chan from Hong Kong)
    over the weekend.
    
    It was a lot of fun!
52.2528DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Mar 11 1996 16:284
> I have never seen a movie with a likable Gene Hackman character


Ever see "Scarecrow"?
52.2529ALFSS1::CIAROCHIOne Less DogMon Mar 11 1996 17:015
    Thumbs up for Jackie Chan.
    
    Oh, by the way.  The Pope and Bob Dole ARE liberal.
    
    Jeez.
52.2530WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Mar 11 1996 17:023
    watched Shane last Saturday. i forget how much i enjoyed that movie.
    
    one of the better bar fights ever filmed.
52.2531NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 11 1996 17:053
>    one of the better bar fights ever filmed.

Jack!  Jack!
52.2532SPECXN::CONLONA Season of CarneliansMon Mar 11 1996 17:1011
    We were really surprised how much we liked Jackie Chan.  He is really
    funny and personable on screen (as well as very clever with stunts.)

    During the credits, they showed how some of the stunts were done (and
    they showed Jackie breaking his leg during the filming of the movie.)
    He broke his leg while jumping on a boat.

    Later in the credits, they showed him putting a sock that looked like 
    a sneaker over his leg cast (so he could be filmed as if he were 
    wearing two sneakers instead of having a cast on one of his lower
    legs.)  Pretty clever.
52.2533BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 11 1996 17:125
    
    	That movie looks like it's a lot of fun.
    
    	I'm going to have to check it out.
    
52.2534Some parts of this movie were hilarious.SPECXN::CONLONA Season of CarneliansMon Mar 11 1996 17:2318
    Unlike some American action heroes, Jackie Chan is not afraid to look
    funny or foolish at times during the movie.

    At one point, he walked by a mirror (which was a window to people
    inside an office) and admired his muscles and his body from every
    angle while a young woman chuckled about it from inside the office.

    Later, he came back to do something that looked like he was popping
    a pimple on his nose.  (We couldn't see this close up, so it wasn't
    gross.  It was just funny as he screwed his face up into the mirror
    and the young woman laughed again from inside the office.)

    When he stepped into the office, he realized it was a window (and
    his expression of embarrassment as he looked outside the window
    and back inside the window a couple of times was cute!)
    
    Instead of being tough all the time, he's funny and almost naive some
    of the time.  It works great for him!!
52.2535CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 11 1996 17:2715
    
>    	I'm going to have to check it out.
 

  I'd suggest seeing it at the theater..I doubt it will be in the
 library any time soon.



 hth



   

52.2536BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 11 1996 17:373
    
    	That helped immensely, Jim.  Thanks for caring.
    
52.2537CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 11 1996 17:548

 Glad to be of service.





52.2538DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Mar 11 1996 19:531
Once were Warriors. Powerful. Takes no prisoners.
52.2539GIDDAY::BURTDPD (tm)Mon Mar 11 1996 22:157
"The Sum of Us" was on TV a couple of nights ago - it's showing its age a 
little, but the characters are still VERY human.
The main thing that bothered me was the characters speaking to the camera 
- it helped in some instances, but was sometimes irritating.


\C
52.2540Great movie, but very disturbingTROOA::BUTKOVICHrunning on emptyTue Mar 12 1996 19:188
    -2    I saw "Once were Warriors" at the Toronto Film Festival a couple
    of years ago - I could hardly breath during some of the violent scenes. 
    It's a very well made movie depicting urban life for some of the
    Maori's in New Zealand.  The lead actress was at the festival with the
    director and during the Q and A session, she told us that she had been
    in prison for drugs and this was her first acting job - amazing.  Also
    said the movie is a very realistic presentation of the current
    situation in Auckland.  
52.2541SUBSYS::NEUMYERLongnecks and Short StoriesTue Mar 12 1996 19:195
    
    Yes, I saw that recently and enjoyed the movie very much. Very intense
    movie.
    
    ed
52.2542DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Mar 12 1996 20:352
The thing that hit me about it was that, except for the cultural tradition,
it could have been anywhere.
52.254343GMC::KEITHDr. DeuceWed Mar 13 1996 10:216
    My oldest son rented "Clerks" the other night. A real low budget film.
    It was quite funny in places and I found out what 'snowballing' means
    
    blugh...
    
    Steve
52.2544SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Mar 13 1996 10:228
    
    
    	re: Clerks
    
    	37??!??! ;*)
    
    
    
52.2545SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiWed Mar 13 1996 10:444
    Watched Die Hard II on the tube last night; aside from some of the most
    execrable dubbing ever perpetrated on a not-entirely-unprepared viewing
    public, it was pretty funny.  Even more gratuitous than the original, I
    thought John Amos' little bit with the knife was a classic.
52.2546CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesWed Mar 13 1996 13:072
    Rented Assassins last night.  After much deliberation, this movie inhaled.  
    
52.2547PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 13 1996 13:083

  .2546  with Sly in it, it inhaled?  gee, what a surprise. ;>
52.2548CHEFS::HANDLEY_IMy Name?...Good Question.Wed Mar 13 1996 13:283
    
    Was I the only one who watched this movie to find Antonio Banderas
    extremely irritating or is it a group thing?
52.2549CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesWed Mar 13 1996 13:333
    I actually enjoyed the other one he was in with Sharon Stone, The
    Specialist?  But this one was not good, IMO.  I too found Banderas to
    be annoying.  
52.2550ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunWed Mar 13 1996 13:443
    
    Brian, you are treading on sacred turf here. Assasins is very good,
    though the Specialist is also quite good.
52.2551POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of French HeatersWed Mar 13 1996 13:526
    
    I liked Sylvester Stallone in the original _Rocky_, in that undershirt 
    scene in his apartment.
    
    Fwwwwwooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrr.
    
52.2552BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 13 1996 13:545
    
    	"Rocky"??  Possibly the stupidest series ever made.  Luckily
    	Stallone smartened up [literally and figuratively] and decided
    	to do shoot-'em-up cops/robbers movies.
    
52.2553POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of French HeatersWed Mar 13 1996 14:006
    
    I only really liked the original.  Saw II and III but they got
    progressively stupider, so stopped there.
    
    Anyway, I really just liked looking at his upper body development.
    
52.2554PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 13 1996 14:0010
>    I liked Sylvester Stallone in the original _Rocky_, in that undershirt 
>    scene in his apartment.
    
>    Fwwwwwooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrr.

       that's _exactly_ what i was just thinking about.  agreed.
       his finest moment.
    

52.2555POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of French HeatersWed Mar 13 1996 14:024
    
    Oh, yeah, when he put his arms up on the doorframe, or the bar, or 
    whatever it was, and leaned forward...
    
52.2556PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 13 1996 14:042
  .2555  yup - that's the moment. ;>
52.2557BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 13 1996 14:053
    
    	You realize you're both carrying on like teen-agers, don't you?
    
52.2558PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 13 1996 14:083
  .2557  it's quite a different level of appreciation than i had when
	 i was a teenager, trust me. :>
52.2559POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of French HeatersWed Mar 13 1996 14:085
    
    
    It's gotten oddly warm in here.
    
    
52.2560POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Wed Mar 13 1996 14:111
    That movie won best picture didn't it?
52.2561ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunWed Mar 13 1996 14:232
    
    yeahbut, deb, he doesn't have a beard.
52.2562career moment = "the lean"TROOA::BUTKOVICHrunning on emptyWed Mar 13 1996 14:244
    Yes it did - quite the jump from "Italian Stallion" to Academy Award
    winning author for Sly.  And I wholeheartedly concur with previous
    opinions on the undershirt moment... I might just have to go and rent
    that movie again.  
52.2563POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of French HeatersWed Mar 13 1996 14:256
    
    True, but when I was 17 I wasn't into beards or hairy chests.
    
    Now I am, in case you hadn't noticed 8^).
                             
    
52.2564NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Mar 13 1996 14:303
I read once that chest hair scares teenage and preteen girls.  All the guys in
the magazines aimed at teenage girls have chests as smooth as the proverbial
baby's bottom.
52.2565POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of French HeatersWed Mar 13 1996 14:358
    
    That's interesting.  You could be right.
    
    Bio type question:  do all men develop chest hair (of varying amounts,
    I'm sure) as they mature?  Or are there 80-year-old men out there with
    smooth chests still?
    
    
52.2566POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Wed Mar 13 1996 14:371
    No, not all men.
52.2567PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 13 1996 14:394
  i like the Alec Baldwin Chest Hair Configuration (patent pending).
  or none.  on men, that is.  

52.2568POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Wed Mar 13 1996 14:421
    I have ABCHC.
52.2569BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 13 1996 14:463
    
    	A Big Canadian Hotel Curtain?
    
52.2570PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 13 1996 14:527
>       <<< Note 52.2568 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Alrighty, bye bye then." >>>

>    I have ABCHC.

	;>  it's a very mynly look.  without there being an 
	    urge to hand the guy a banana.

52.2571ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunWed Mar 13 1996 14:524
    
    .2569
    
    no, but thanks for playing.
52.2572BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 13 1996 14:583
    
    	OK, Mr. Billiards, then what DOES it stand for?
    
52.2573ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunWed Mar 13 1996 15:032
    
    shawn, see .2567 for the free clue. hth nnttm kfc, ipa, etc...
52.2574BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 13 1996 15:127
    
    	Ummm ... oh.  Now I see.  Thanks.  8^)
    
    	Apparently I didn't read those 2 replies back-to-back, and by
    	the time I got to the ABCHC reply I'd forgotten what was said
    	in the previous reply.
    
52.2575DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Mar 13 1996 17:094
Anyone notice in old movies the male leads are often smooth chested (James
Stewart in "Rear Window", for example, if I remember right)? Was shaving
a common practice back then?
52.2576BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoWed Mar 13 1996 17:363

	I believed men did shave back then. Not many had beards.
52.2577WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Mar 14 1996 10:103
    even today, particularly the young men, shaving their bods is very
    prevelent. i think i picked up that in a TV Guide article. maybe this
    belongs in the Confessional...
52.2578WAHOO::LEVESQUEhickory dickoryThu Mar 14 1996 10:221
    What do they do, have a Nair dip?
52.2579WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Mar 14 1996 10:314
    can't remember. prolly a waxing would be my guess (less maintenance).
    
    i understand that Nair can get nasty when in contact with membranes
    or underarms.
52.2580BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu Mar 14 1996 12:514

	They showed the tape method a couple of weeks ago on the Today show.
Too much pain.....
52.2581CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesThu Mar 14 1996 13:044
    Rented Braveheart last night.  What a powerful film.  Wish I had seen
    it on the big screen.  Stirred the ancestral roots a bit it did.  
    
    Brian
52.2582SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIThu Mar 14 1996 13:0610
    
    
    <------
    
    >Stirred the ancestral roots a bit it did.
    
    Great!!!
    
    Now he's gonna run around with a skirt!!!
    
52.2583no tartan startin'GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseThu Mar 14 1996 13:074
    
      Best not, he could get kilt.
    
      bb
52.2584EST::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQThu Mar 14 1996 13:102
Um, er, interesting public torture methods they used back then.
I presume this is "drawing and quartering"?
52.2585CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesThu Mar 14 1996 13:181
    I will not post the details but drawing and quartering was not shown.
52.2586PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 14 1996 13:213
	Mel Gibson is deserving of pants, even in skirts.

52.2587SOLVIT::KRAWIECKIThu Mar 14 1996 13:234
    
    
    Even without his appendix???
    
52.2588SPECXN::CONLONThu Mar 14 1996 14:154
    Mel did a funny interview around the time 'Braveheart' was coming out.

    He was talking about the tough-guy response to the question about what
    men wear under their kilts:  "Your wife's lipstick."  :)
52.2589POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Thu Mar 14 1996 14:191
    Mel is a very funny guy.
52.2590BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 14 1996 15:186
    
    	RE: Drawing and quartering
    
    	Isn't that when they tie each of your limbs to a horse, and
    	the horses run in different directions?
    
52.2591PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 14 1996 15:237
>    	Isn't that when they tie each of your limbs to a horse, and
>    	the horses run in different directions?

    yeah.  it's also to disembowel and dismember after hanging.
        

52.2592Richard Gere for oneTROOA::BUTKOVICHrunning on emptyThu Mar 14 1996 15:344
    The fact that those scenes involved Mel made them much harder for me to
    watch without cringing.  Now, I can think of a few actors who, if I saw
    them in that scene, I would probably not be disturbed at all! 8-)))
    
52.2593MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Sat Mar 16 1996 02:147
re: The Birdcage

What does this offer that La Cage au Folles did not? Other than, perhaps
Americanization?

Was it simply a Robin Williams vehicle?

52.2594BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoSat Mar 16 1996 19:2117

RE: Birdcage


	Robin Williams was not even close to being the driver in this movie.
Nathan Lane stole the show. 

	Besides the endless laughing one will encounter during this movie, it
also shows the struggle and love a family can have. They show this by going to
unusal lengths to hide who they really are for their son. And this remake
doesn't seem to be making fun of gay people so much. 




Glen
52.2595SCASS1::EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairSun Mar 17 1996 06:0613
    
    Executive Decision
    
    Pay no attention to the critic behind the curtain.  This was a better
    moveie than "Broken Arrow", IMHO.
    
    Besides, any movie in which Steven Seagal buys the farm in the first
    15 minutes has got my vote.
    
    Although the plot premise is well-worn,  a lot of inter-character
    reparte quite enhances the film.
    
    
52.2596SPECXN::CONLONMon Mar 18 1996 02:282
    We saw "Executive Decision" over the weekend, too - we enjoyed it!
    
52.2597CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesMon Mar 18 1996 12:267
    re: .2595
    
    >>Besides, any movie in which Steven Seagal buys the farm in the
    >>first 15 minutes has got my vote.
    
    Thanks, I really didn't want to see it anyway, NOT! :-/.  
    
52.2598CNTROL::JENNISONJoin me in glad adorationMon Mar 18 1996 12:315
    
    	I rented IQ over the weekend, and really enjoyed it.
    
    	Now I wonder about my sense of humor ;-)
    
52.2599CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 18 1996 12:578

 My son wanted to watch "Hackers" over the weekend.  What a dumb movie.




Jim
52.2600BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 18 1996 13:233
    
    	I saw "Clueless", and thought it was quite good.
    
52.2601WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureMon Mar 18 1996 13:361
    Sounds like it would be right up your alley.
52.2602POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Mon Mar 18 1996 13:451
    {rim shot}
52.2603PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 18 1996 14:149
  .2600

	
	"You think the death of Sammy Davis left an opening
	in the Rat Pack?" (app. quote)

	aagagagag.  great line.
 
52.2604BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 18 1996 14:215
    
    	Yeah, Dan Hedaya is a riot no matter what he appears in!!
    
    	It was a funny movie.
    
52.2605PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 18 1996 14:346
    
>    	Yeah, Dan Hedaya is a riot no matter what he appears in!!

	if it's a comedy, yes.  he was anything _but_ funny 
	in "Blood Simple". ;>

52.2606BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon Mar 18 1996 16:105
| <<< Note 52.2602 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Alrighty, bye bye then." >>>

| {rim shot}

	EEEK!
52.2607CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesMon Mar 18 1996 16:532
    Rented Ace Ventura II.  Wish I hadn't.  Almost popped it back out. 
    Very bad.  
52.2608WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureMon Mar 18 1996 16:541
    It said shot, Glen, not job.
52.2609BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon Mar 18 1996 17:535
| <<< Note 52.2608 by WAHOO::LEVESQUE "contents under pressure" >>>

| It said shot, Glen, not job.

	I thought it was a variation of a body shot....
52.2610CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 18 1996 18:019

 I watched about 10 minutes of the first Ace Ventura..popped it out and took
 it back.  I won't bother with the second one.




Jim
52.2611POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Mon Mar 18 1996 18:023
    I bought a copy of the first one.
    
    AAaaaaaaalrightythen!
52.2612BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 18 1996 18:075
    
    	Somebody STOP me!!
    
    	The 1st was a great movie!!  Haven't seen the 2nd yet.
    
52.2613ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 18 1996 18:441
    I find "Ace Ventura" to be 25% funny and 75% annoying. 
52.2614POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Mon Mar 18 1996 19:043
    I find it to be 100% funny and I'm annoyed 50% less of the time than I
    would otherwise be if 100% of the people who were annoyed would take a
    muscle relaxant and be 50% less concerned with my 100% satisfaction.
52.2615PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 18 1996 19:122
 .2614  yeah.  what he said.
52.2616ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Mon Mar 18 1996 19:121
    Who's concerned?
52.2617POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Mon Mar 18 1996 19:201
    six of one and half dozen of the other.
52.2618WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureWed Mar 20 1996 11:456
    Saw "A Walk in the Clouds" last night. Good movie.
    
    Also saw "French Kiss". Barely worth the $3.
    
    Had to rent movies because the cable bill wasn't paid on time. Oops.
    Anybody record NYPD Blue?
52.2619CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesWed Mar 20 1996 12:049
    				I still
    cannot watch				NY
    PD			Blue 
    								due to the
    
    camera work.  It
    
    				makes me diz
    zy.
52.2620so they sayWAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureWed Mar 20 1996 12:082
    Smoke a doober, then the whole rest of the room will do the same thing as
    the TV screen, so it will be easy to watch. /hth
52.2621BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoWed Mar 20 1996 12:353

	Brian, that was cool. You have quite the imagination! I'm jealous
52.2622BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 20 1996 13:217
    
    	Speaking of odd camera work, did anybody catch "Marshal Law"
    	[Jimmy Smits] on cable the other night?
    
    	What were they doing with the "warped" photography in that
    	movie?
    
52.2623LANDO::OLIVER_BWed Mar 20 1996 13:485
    nypd blue was quite good last nite.  cippy cracked a rather
    ugly child-murder case and sexual politics were rampant in
    a rape case that James was handling.  the final scene was 
    cool - cippy giving his son instructions on how to survive as
    a cop on the streets.
52.2624CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesWed Mar 20 1996 14:112
    Rented Desparado last night.  I thought it was funny.  Liked Banderas
    more in this one than Assassins.  Decent escapist fare.  IMO etc.
52.2625TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhatever it takesWed Mar 20 1996 14:293
    Brian - Andy will tell you it's crap, but I agree with you - it was
    very funny.  I LOL on more than a few occassions. (like when this real
    tough guy was having his various cuts taken care of)
52.2626BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 20 1996 14:444
    
    	Brian, who was the featured female performer in that one?  She
    	looked very lovely in the previews.
    
52.2627TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhatever it takesWed Mar 20 1996 14:554
    I don't know her name - think she's Mexican.  Anyway, she is also in a
    REALLY lame movie I had the misfortune to rent last weekend - "Fair
    Game" with Billy Baldwin and Cindy Crawford.  I don't know what
    possessed me.  She plays Billy's ex-girlfriend.
52.2628CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesWed Mar 20 1996 15:251
    Didn't catch the name.  She looked good in the film too, hth.  
52.2629DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Wed Mar 20 1996 15:346
    
    
    	Personally I think anything in which Cindy Crawford has
    	to speak, is nauseating.  Drives me nuts the way she bobs
    	her head around when talking.......
    
52.2630BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 20 1996 15:373
    
    	Must be a bimbo thing or something, JJ.
    
52.2631DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Wed Mar 20 1996 15:455
    
    
    
    	=)
    
52.2632DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Mar 20 1996 16:3115
Watched "The River Wild" last night. 
WTH is someone the likes of Meryl Streep doing in a film like that?

Decent escapist fare, I guess, but certainly nothing that hasn't been seen
a zillion times already.

What was thing a few years ago where Sidney Poitier "came out of retirement",
with Tom Beringer, Kirsty Alley, and Clancy Brown? Same plot, more or less.

Someone once offered the theory that there are only 7 movie plots in the 
whole world, most films are variations on one of them. I personally believe
there are a few more than 7 (where would you put 2001, for example?), but
"River Wild" adds a bit of credence to that theory.

Glad the dog made it.
52.2633BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 20 1996 16:496
    
    	What are the 7 plots?  Without knowing what they are, it's hard
    	to say whether or not "2001" fits in any of them.  8^)
    
    	The other movie you're thinking of is "Shoot to Kill".
    
52.2634and the soundtrack album is a rarity - worth listening toSX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoWed Mar 20 1996 17:336
    Mark, Stacey and I loved French Kiss- lightweight, to be sure, romantic
    comedy with no gunplay, no corpses, just outrageous french accents, a
    funny twist on an old con, wine country, and Meg Ryan.  What's not to
    like?
    
    DougO
52.2635BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 20 1996 17:375
    
    	RE: -1
    
    	Wine country.
    
52.2636POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksWed Mar 20 1996 17:413
    
    Shawn would prefer a movie called "Milwaukee Kiss"?
    
52.2637NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Mar 20 1996 17:532
The Milwaukee Kiss -- what a great name for a team!  The players could wear
garish makeup like Gene Simmons and friends.
52.2638WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureWed Mar 20 1996 18:3611
    >Mark, Stacey and I loved French Kiss- lightweight, to be sure, romantic
    >comedy with no gunplay, no corpses, just outrageous french accents, a
    >funny twist on an old con, wine country, and Meg Ryan.  What's not to
    >like?
    
     Meg Ryan plays her standard flighty blonde just a little too pat, and
    Klein's performance is a bit strained. Still, it was indeed amusing,
    and I enjoyed the wine country stuff (both movies had wine cuntry
    elements, which was unexpected). It was cute and light; it just wasn't
    worth spending a lot of money for. I'm glad we rented it, but I'm also
    glad we didn't pay for a sitter + two tix + popcorn, etc.
52.2639BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsWed Mar 20 1996 18:373
    > both movies had wine cuntry
    
    see ya in "phrase of the day"...
52.2640I'll take embarrassing typos for $200, AlexWAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureWed Mar 20 1996 18:431
    Yipes!
52.2641CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesWed Mar 20 1996 18:491
    Gerald, you forgot the bowling shirts.
52.2642BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Mar 20 1996 20:479
    
    	Chris Makepeace and Adam Baldwin, co-stars of "My Bodyguard" in
    	1980, are both in new movies this year:
    
    	Chris - "The Memory Run"
    	Adam - "Independence Day"
    
    	Just thought you'd like to know.
    
52.2643DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Mar 20 1996 21:248
> What are the 7 plots?  Without knowing what they are, it's hard

I don't know, I haven't read up on the theory.

When you think about it tho, consider how similar the plots are in so many
films, with only minor variations, e.g., the cop "buddy" movies, the 
"mistaken identity" romantic comedies, etc. etc.
52.2644CHEFS::HANDLEY_IMy Name?...Good Question.Thu Mar 21 1996 08:416
    
    The lovely young mexican lady in "fair game" and a few others is called
    Salma Hayek (no, really)
    
    
    HTH.
52.2645CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesThu Mar 21 1996 11:231
    Maybe that's what shes called but what's her name?
52.2646ThatIS her nameCHEFS::HANDLEY_IMy Name?...Good Question.Thu Mar 21 1996 11:355
    
    Durr, did we leave our clever head at home today?
    
    
    I.
52.2647ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Mar 21 1996 12:315
    
    .2644
    
    Ian, she is also in "Deperado" with Antonio Banderas. quite the lovely
    woman, she is.
52.2648i'm goin with the astros...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseThu Mar 21 1996 12:4010
    
      So what was "Best Picture" (Oscars Tuesday) ?
    
            Sense and Sensibility ?
    
            Braveheart ?
    
            Apollo 13 ?
    
         bb
52.2649POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Thu Mar 21 1996 12:472
    I think that woman's name was Sanchez or Hernandez. One of those two. A
    common Mexican surname.
52.2650POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 21 1996 12:503
    
    They haven't given the Oscars yet, have they?
    
52.2651next weekGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseThu Mar 21 1996 12:514
    
      Tuesday.  But they announced the nominations.
    
      bb
52.2652Yawn.....SOLVIT::KRAWIECKILord of the Turnip TruckThu Mar 21 1996 12:511
    
52.2653CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Mar 21 1996 12:5512



  They'll prolly have to redo the nominations, etc to make Jesse Jackson
 happy.





 Jim
52.2654POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 21 1996 13:093
    
    Isn't that the biggest pile of bs you've ever heard?
    
52.2655BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 21 1996 13:103
    
    	Now what's Reverend Jesse whining about?
    
52.2656POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksThu Mar 21 1996 13:145
    
    Out of 126 Oscar nominees, only one is black.  Must be racism, can't be
    anything else.  I guess we need quotas for excellence awards now, too.
    
    
52.2657SALEM::DODASpring training, PLEASE!Thu Mar 21 1996 13:438
   <<< Note 52.2655 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Don't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448" >>>

    
    	>Now what's Reverend Jesse whining about?
    
       Calypso Louie was getting all the press recently....

       daryll
52.2658CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Thu Mar 21 1996 13:5010

 The fact that the host of the show is black and the music director is
 black is not enough for Jesse, apparantly.  Yes, we must have quotas
 for excellence awards.




 Jim
52.2659IncredibleLUDWIG::BARBIERIThu Mar 21 1996 15:4013
      Speaking of Jesse...I'm glad we have him as a moral vanguard
      of the high road.  He publically chastised Billy Packer for
      referring to some black college basketball player "a tough
      monkey" (clearly not a cool thing to do).
    
      Who better to call Packer on that than one who referred to
      New York City as "hymietown" and some of its citizens as
      "hymies"???
    
      I suppose Jesse's probably some upper echelon member of some
      liberal think tank...
    
    						Tony
52.2660BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Mar 21 1996 15:427
    
    	Gotta make a move to a town that's right for me.
    
    	...
    
    	Won't you take me from, Hymietown.
    
52.2661ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunThu Mar 21 1996 17:494
    
    The Rev Jesse Jackson is an idiot. He just loves to hear his own voice,
    and to be seen on TV. He couldn't give a rat's A** about the African-
    American population. He's almost as bad as Farakhan (sp).
52.2662POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Thu Mar 21 1996 20:133
    The woman in the Desperado movie is Salma Hayek.
    
    aiee-chihuahua
52.2663GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Thu Mar 21 1996 20:161
    Yes, veeeeeerrrrrry nice!!
52.2664a real SCREAMER, that one!BSS::PROCTOR_RWallet full of eelskinsFri Mar 22 1996 01:198
    > The woman in the Desperado movie is Salma Hayek.
    
    > aiee-chihuahua
    
    ho hum.
    
    been there, done that. got the bill. 
    
52.26658PSCASS1::BARBER_Abreath in, breath outFri Mar 22 1996 01:231
    She ain't all that.
52.2666POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Fri Mar 22 1996 01:231
    Sure. uh-huh.
52.2667SCASS1::BARBER_Abreath in, breath outFri Mar 22 1996 01:281
    Nopers.  huh-UH.
52.2668POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksFri Mar 22 1996 03:124
    
    Get a room.
    
    
52.2669ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Fri Mar 22 1996 11:251
    ...and a life.  8^)
52.2670ACISS1::BATTISpool shooting son of a gunFri Mar 22 1996 11:404
    
    .2665
    
    well 'pril, she certainly is in the "Most Boinkable" category.
52.2671SMURF::WALTERSFri Mar 22 1996 16:303
    Before Sunrise
    
    All the marks of a classic movie.  
52.2672SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatFri Mar 22 1996 16:372
    Wife came home with a copy of Babe last night.  Lovely film.  Charming,
    well executed, meaningful parable.
52.2673CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Fri Mar 22 1996 17:0710


 Reserved my copy (I'm sure there'll be a mad rush but I also saved 5 bucks
 by reserving it) of "The Brady Bunch Movie" last night..




 Jim
52.2674BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 17:167
    
    	I didn't realize it wasn't on sale yet.
    
    	I knew it was available as a rental, and it's already on cable.
    
    	Are you sure it's just coming out now?
    
52.2675CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Fri Mar 22 1996 17:2313
    
>    	I didn't realize it wasn't on sale yet.
    
>    	I knew it was available as a rental, and it's already on cable.
    
>    	Are you sure it's just coming out now?
 

   It has been out on rental, but not for sale in retail..don't understand
 why.  It will be available for retail purchase on the 26th.  I got mine for
 $9.99 .  (note space before the ".")   

52.2676BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 17:386
    
 >$9.99 .  (note space before the ".")   
    
    
    	But the $ sign screws everything up.  8^)
    
52.2677BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 17:408
    
    	Hmmm, scratch that.  It still works.
    
    
    	Doc, what's the problem you have with, for example, 59.99?
    
    	If I click on 59.99? it works fine.
    
52.2678WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureFri Mar 22 1996 17:422
    I have to paste the text selected by the mouse button onto the control
    line, and it complains if there are any extraneous characters.
52.2679NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Mar 22 1996 17:441
So hit the bleepin' delete key!
52.2680BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 17:464
    
    	I forgot where this discussion was happening, so I stuck the
    	correct command in 15.5512
    
52.2681so much for the polite suggestion routeWAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureFri Mar 22 1996 17:556
>So hit the bleepin' delete key!
    
     That works better for trailing punctuation than leading punctuation.
    
     Hey, I was just asking. No need to get your beard in a bind. Nobody's
    going to force you into doing things that make it easier on others.
52.2682CNTROL::JENNISONJoin me in glad adorationFri Mar 22 1996 17:583
    
    	the exception being the consumption of white zinfandel ?
    
52.2683NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Mar 22 1996 17:581
It _was_ trailing punctuation.
52.2684WAHOO::LEVESQUEcontents under pressureFri Mar 22 1996 18:048
    >It _was_ trailing punctuation.
    
    That time, it was. It isn't always. You frequently do the re:123.45
    thing as well. Forget I said anything. Obviously the concept that you
    could do things in a slightly different way that would be more helpful
    to others is troubling you to bring up such resistance. Nevermind. You
    already do things in the best of all possible ways. Don't change a
    thing.
52.2685BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoFri Mar 22 1996 18:056

	As a friend of mine has said.... it should be:


		59.99$
52.2686ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckFri Mar 22 1996 18:132
    
    Testy crowd lately, like pirahanas at feeding time.
52.2687BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeFri Mar 22 1996 18:156
    
    >That time, it was. It isn't always. You frequently do the re:123.45
    
    
    	I can click on this note.reply and it still works.
    
52.2688NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Mar 22 1996 18:212
I don't think I've ever done re:123.45.  At least I've never done it
deliberately.  My style is "re 123.45:".
52.2689ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckFri Mar 22 1996 18:463
    
    enough!!!!!!!!!!  Gerald and Mark, go to your rooms. mz_debra
    will meet you there shortly.
52.2690MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Sat Mar 23 1996 03:047
Great Steve McQueen movie on TNT tonight - "The Sand Pebbles", with Richard 
Crenna and Candice Bergen.

Last time I saw it was Oct. 17th, 1971, while sitting in the maternity
waiting room at Onondaga General Hospital in Syracuse the night #1 daughter
was born.

52.2691POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Full Body FrisksSat Mar 23 1996 03:254
    
    Onondaga!
    
    
52.2692MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Sat Mar 23 1996 12:012
Why, yes!

52.2693POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Sat Mar 23 1996 12:2910
    Me um know where um that is!
    
    
    
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52.2694MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Sat Mar 23 1996 22:034
Finally saw "Apollo 13" today.

_GREAT_ movie!

52.2695POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Sun Mar 24 1996 01:243
    Have you seen "Apollo The 13th" yet?
    
    Very scary. Very very scary.
52.2696POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Mon Mar 25 1996 01:316
    I've been watching the Star Wars Movies a lot lately, and the most
    often used phrase in those moives is:
    
    	"I've got a bad feeling about this."
    
    It has to be an inside joke that George Lucas has.
52.2697SMURF::WALTERSMon Mar 25 1996 11:293
    "I've got a bard feeling about."
    
    				Anne Hathaway
52.2698ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 11:294
    
    watched "the Net" over the weekend, what a good movie!! Sandra Bullock
    was great in that. very good suspense, but Ken Howard (White Shadow)
    sure had a very small part in it.
52.2699BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeMon Mar 25 1996 13:4410
    
    	Speaking of Steve McQueen, "The Hunter" was on the other night
    	also.
    
    	And I saw "Solomon's Mines" and "Allan Quatermain and the Lost
    	City of Gold" yesterday ... not too bad, especially considering
    	Sharon Stone was in both and looked incredible.  The movies are
    	somewhat of a "Raiders of the Lost Ark" copy, but still pretty
    	good.
    
52.2700MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Mar 25 1996 13:491
    MGM Snarf
52.2701SPECXN::CONLONMon Mar 25 1996 14:5121
    RE: .2696  Glenn

    > I've been watching the Star Wars Movies a lot lately, and the most
    > often used phrase in those movies is:
           
    >	"I've got a bad feeling about this."
    
    > It has to be an inside joke that George Lucas has.

    Well, I wondered about this myself for years.

    Recently, I saw the movie '2001' again (after not having seen it
    for years) and I noticed that when the two astronauts went into
    the pod to talk about HAL behind his back (so to speak), the one
    who would be killed by HAL a short time later said something like
    this about HAL:

    	"I've got a bad feeling about him."

    Perhaps George Lucas decided to borrow this line (since it was an
    unusual thing for an astronaut to say about a computer.)
52.2702mine are in CAPSTROOA::BUTKOVICHChrisbert IncMon Mar 25 1996 15:3064
    Any predictions for tonights Academy Awards?
    
    BEST PICTURE: Apollo 13, Babe, Braveheart, The Postman (Il Postino),
                  SENSE AND SENSIBILITY 
    
    ACTOR: NICOLAS CAGE, Leaving Las Vegas; Richard Dreyfuss, Mr. Holland's
           Opus; Anthony Hopkins, Nixon; Sean Penn, Dead Man Walking; 
    	   Massimo Troisi, The Postman (Il Postino). 
    
    ACTRESS: SUSAN SARANDON, Dead Man Walking; Elisabeth Shue, Leaving Las
    	     Vegas; Sharon Stone, Casino; Meryl Streep, The Bridges of 
    	     Madison County; Emma Thompson, Sense and Sensibility. 
    
    SUPPORTING ACTOR: James Cromwell, Babe; Ed Harris, Apollo 13; Brad
    		      Pitt, 12 Monkeys; Tim Roth, Rob Roy; KEVIN SPACEY, 
    		      The Usual Suspects. 
    
    SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Joan Allen, Nixon; Kathleen Quinlan, Apollo 13;
    		        Mira Sorvino, Mighty Aphrodite; Mare Winningham, 
    			Georgia; KATE WINSLET, Sense and Sensibility. 
    
                                                       
    DIRECTOR: Chris Noonan, Babe; MEL GIBSON, Braveheart; Tim Robbins, Dead
    	      Man Walking; Mike Figgis, Leaving Las Vegas; Michael Radford, 
    	      The Postman (Il Postino). 
     
    
    ORIGINAL SONG: ''Colors of the Wind'' from Pocahontas, Alan Menken and
    	           Stephen Schwartz; 
    		   ''Dead Man Walking'' from Dead Man Walking, BRUCE SPRINGSTEE
    		   ''Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman'' from Don Juan DeMarco, Michael 
    		   Kamen, Bryan Adams and Robert John Lange; 
    		  ''Moonlight'' from Sabrina, John Williams and Alan and
    		   Marilyn Bergman; 
    		 ''You'v Got a Friend'' from Toy Story, Randy Newman. 
    
    COSTUME: Braveheart, Restoration, Richard III, Sense and Sensibility,
    12 Monkeys. 
    
    DOCUMENTARY FEATURE: Anne Frank Remembered, The Battle Over Citizen
    Kane,
    Fiddlefest, Hank Aaron: Chasing the Dream, Troublesome Creek: A
    Midwestern. 
    
    DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT: Jim Dine: A Self-Portrait on the Walls, The
    Living
    Sea, Never Give Up: The 20th Century Odyssey of Herbert Zipper, One
    Survivor
    Remembers, The Shadow of Hate. 
    
    FILM EDITING: Apollo 13, Babe, Braveheart, Crimson Tide, Seven. 
    
    MAKEUP: Braveheart, My Family, Mi Familia, Roommates. 
    
    ANIMATED SHORT FILMS: The Chicken From Outerspace, A Close Shave, The
    End,
    Gargarin, Runaway Brain. 
    
    LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM: Brooms, Duke of Groove, Lieberman in Love,
    Little
    Surprises, Tuesday Morning Ride. 
    
    VISUAL EFFECTS: Apollo 13, Babe. 
    
52.2703one more categoryHBAHBA::HAASfloor,chair,couch,bedMon Mar 25 1996 15:333
    BEST PROTEST: Jesse Jackson, Janet Jackson, Pat Buchanan, Pat
		  Paulson, BOB DOLE
52.2704CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesMon Mar 25 1996 15:403
    Babe is up for best pisture?  You have to be kidding me.  Actually,
    this is what I said to my radio when the critic announced this was a
    contender.  
52.2705CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 25 1996 15:439

>    Babe is up for best pisture?  You have to be kidding me.  Actually
   this is what I said to my radio when the critic announced this was a
    contender.  


   Maybe you misunderstood, then..it is up for best piCture, not pisture..
   Does that make you feel better?
52.2706CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 25 1996 15:4510


 I read somewhere that Jesse Jackson is asking people to where rainbow
 ribbons to show they are in agreement with him.  



 
Jim
52.2707CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesMon Mar 25 1996 15:461
    With all the ribbons folks will be wearing, they'll look like the JCS. 
52.2708CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 25 1996 15:4810


 They'll be issuing "ribbon explanation cards" to attendees, and a brief
 pre-show session will explain them to the viewers.




 Jim
52.2709BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe never told me she was a mimeMon Mar 25 1996 15:493
    
    	Will attendees with like ribbons be seated together?
    
52.2710SUBSYS::NEUMYERLongnecks and Short StoriesMon Mar 25 1996 15:495
    
    What a ridiculous thing to do. If they were REALLY in agreement with 
    him , they wouldn't be at the ceremony.
    
    ed
52.2711NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 25 1996 15:501
Shawn, quit ribbon.
52.2712separate but equalHBAHBA::HAASfloor,chair,couch,bedMon Mar 25 1996 15:503
>    	Will attendees with like ribbons be seated together?

Where's the diversity?
52.2713ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 16:012
    Jesse is a publicity hound, plain and simple. I'm sorry to say he is
    from Chicago. My head is bowed down to you all.
52.2714CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Mon Mar 25 1996 16:0411


 I, for one, will not be watching.  I haven't watched in years, and have
 no intention to do so tonight.  In fact, it might be a good night to
 leave the TV off altogether (let's see if Shawn grabs that hook).




 Jim
52.2715BUSY::SLABOUNTYShe put fire to my candle ...Mon Mar 25 1996 16:093
    
    	OK everybody, "it might be a good night to leave the TV off".
    
52.2716protect the innocentHBAHBA::HAASfloor,chair,couch,bedMon Mar 25 1996 16:101
I think that it should be a lot harder to off the TV...
52.2717NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 25 1996 16:111
Every night's a good night to leave the TV off.
52.2718POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Mon Mar 25 1996 16:141
    ... and go into the cave next door for some serious breeding.
52.2719BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon Mar 25 1996 17:101
:-)
52.2720SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsMon Mar 25 1996 17:128
    
    re: .2702
    
    >Any predictions for tonights Academy Awards?
    
    
    Yes... my hair will definitely be cleaner tomorrow morning...
    
52.2721POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Mon Mar 25 1996 17:171
    I've got a bad feeling about this.
52.2722ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckMon Mar 25 1996 18:052
    
    <---- feel the force, Luke.
52.2723BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon Mar 25 1996 18:497
| <<< Note 52.2722 by ACISS1::BATTIS "A few cards short of a full deck" >>>


| <---- feel the force, Luke.


	I've said that
52.2724BUSY::SLABOUNTYSlugmania ... catch it!!Mon Mar 25 1996 18:505
    
    	Speaking of "The Birdcage" ...
    
    	8^)
    
52.2725astros downedGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseTue Mar 26 1996 13:164
    
      Braveheart ?
    
      bb
52.2726LANDO::OLIVER_BTue Mar 26 1996 13:192
    though i find the subject matter disturbing, i think
    i must see nick's performance in "leaving las vegas".
52.2727The bit with STOMP was greatTROOA::BUTKOVICHChrisbert IncTue Mar 26 1996 14:1511
    I thought Whoopie's bit at the beginning of the show on the ribbons was 
    pretty funny.  And didn't Mel's wife look more than a little teed off?
    Didn't see her smile all night, and she rarely clapped.  You'd think she 
    would be a little happier.  I didn't know that Kirk Douglas had
    suffered a stroke - when was that?  He did remarkably well,
    considering. And how about Christopher Reeve - I admit to getting a
    little teary eyed and admire his courage.
    
    I KNOW I'm not the only one to sit and watch this show... maybe just
    the only one to (foolishly?) admit it! 8*) 
    
52.2728SPECXN::CONLONTue Mar 26 1996 14:2011
    "Leaving Las Vegas" is a depressing movie, but the performances
    are definitely worth the various awards they've been winning
    (including Nicholas Cage's Academy Award last night.)

    I went to see what all the fuss was about (several weeks ago)
    and I found it so moving that I had to see another movie on the
    same day to try to recover from it.

    The movie is from a book written by Nicholas Cage's character
    (and he really did die a few weeks after the book deal, as 
    I understand it.)
52.2729LANDO::OLIVER_BTue Mar 26 1996 14:241
    yes, he did die, suzanne.  he committed suicide, i think. 
52.2730SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatTue Mar 26 1996 14:2614
    .2727
    
    My wife made me leave it on so she could see if Babe won anything.  (It
    did, best visual effects.)
    
    I thought Whoopi's continuing off-color innuendo-laden schtick was
    lame, and by my standards it was objectionable.  Robin Williams' was no
    better - his political jokes fell flat, and his remark about having a
    Woody (in re the Toy Story doll) when he was a kid and playing with it
    when he woke up in the morning was just plain disgusting.
    
    If I didn't despise Robert Dole so much, I could almost applaud his
    call for Hollyweird to clean up its act - much of last night's act was
    Lysol bait.
52.2731POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Tue Mar 26 1996 14:291
    Hare Binder needs a stiff drink and a good gruntling.
52.2732SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatTue Mar 26 1996 14:311
    Two fingers of Macallan wasn't stiff enough?
52.2733NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Mar 26 1996 14:343
>    Two fingers of Macallan wasn't stiff enough?

Rigor mortis set in?
52.2734SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsTue Mar 26 1996 14:384
    
    
    My hair's clean!! My hair's clean!!!!
    
52.2735WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Mar 26 1996 14:381
    i'll buy him the drink, you can do that gruntling thing for him... :-)
52.2736BROKE::PARTSTue Mar 26 1996 14:416
    
    dick is right on this one.  the only thing that makes this humor
    works (for some) is when it is a context that is inappropriate.
    its much more difficult to write material that is truly funny
    than it is to write stuff that is off-color.   
    
52.2737BROKE::PARTSTue Mar 26 1996 14:427
    
    
    i saw a video of "father of the bride" over the weekend.  i didn't
    realize it was so good.  it really hits home in its characterization
    of father-daughter relationships.
    
    
52.2738PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 26 1996 14:545
  .2736  yes, heaven forbid that anyone should have to actually
	 _think up_ funny stuff to say (what a concept!).
	 and as for doing anything with a little finesse or a
	 touch of class, well that's right out.
52.2739ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckTue Mar 26 1996 14:552
    
    I didn't watch the awards, I was reading a book instead.
52.2740ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckTue Mar 26 1996 14:562
    
    I hear Sharon Stone and Mirna Sorvino looked rather nice.
52.2741CSLALL::HENDERSONWe shall behold Him!Tue Mar 26 1996 14:568

 I was reading and occasionally clicking on a movie on CBS about a trip
 to Mars which may wind up on the dumbest movies of all time list.



Jim
52.2742BUSY::SLABOUNTYSuicycomania!!Tue Mar 26 1996 15:207
    
    	The Worcester Telegram announced "Gage, Sarandon Winners".
    
    	I saw maybe the last 1/2 of it or so.  Not sure why, since I
    	don't think I saw any of the movies that won awards.  Stomp
    	was pretty good.
    
52.2743LANDO::OLIVER_BTue Mar 26 1996 15:261
    i was at school, trying to keep awake.
52.2744ACISS1::BATTISA few cards short of a full deckTue Mar 26 1996 15:272
    
    oph, what are you studying in school?? comedy writing, perhaps?
52.2745LANDO::OLIVER_BTue Mar 26 1996 15:281
    well, almost.  law.
52.2746DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Mar 26 1996 16:154
    
    
    	ditto Oph's .2743
    
52.2747ACISS2::LEECHDia do bheatha.Tue Mar 26 1996 16:493
    .2743
    
    Me too...
52.2748SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsTue Mar 26 1996 16:505
    
    re: .2743
    
    I was awake... trying to wash my hair...
    
52.2749WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin ZKO1-3/B31 381-1159Tue Mar 26 1996 16:542
    
    I take it nothing was lost by missing the show?
52.2750POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Mon Apr 01 1996 23:545
    Well, I just finished watching Babe.
    
    What a great movie!
    
    It put a big lump in my throat.  8,^}
52.2751BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 02 1996 00:063

	Piece of ham get stuck in your throat, Glenn???
52.2752MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Apr 02 1996 00:352
Did you feel one with Babe?

52.2753USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Tue Apr 02 1996 00:362
    saw field of dreams for the 10,000th time sunday nite; still gives me
    goosebumps
52.2754MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Apr 02 1996 00:372
Would you believe that I've never seen it at all?

52.2755USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Tue Apr 02 1996 00:381
    don't know what yer missing jack if yer a baseball fan
52.2756Has to do with some sort of ball game, does it?MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Apr 02 1996 00:434
> if yer a baseball fan

Ah-HAH! THAT's it!

52.2757WAHOO::LEVESQUEput the opening in backTue Apr 02 1996 11:191
    It was a struggle to sit through it, Jack.
52.2758PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Apr 02 1996 11:478
   >    It was a struggle to sit through it, Jack.
     
     aye.  on the other hand, saw "seven" last night.  mucho gruesome,
     and the ending was predictable, but it was intriguing and
     suspenseful.  i still don't get what all the hoopla is over brad
     pitt, but morgan freeman's always good.


52.2759GMASEC::KELLYNot The Wrong PersonTue Apr 02 1996 12:202
    brad pitt...all i can say is that he causes intense pavlovian responses
    in this woman.  i'm off to have a fantasy or two now.
52.2760PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Apr 02 1996 12:283

  .2759  not mynly enough for moi.  nope. ;>
52.2761GMASEC::KELLYNot The Wrong PersonTue Apr 02 1996 13:013
    .2760
    
    guess we don't need to arm-wrestle ovah him, eh? :-)
52.2762BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 02 1996 13:346
| <<< Note 52.2759 by GMASEC::KELLY "Not The Wrong Person" >>>

| brad pitt...all i can say is that he causes intense pavlovian responses
| in this woman.  i'm off to have a fantasy or two now.

	'tine....in some men, as well...... Brad is a babe. 
52.2763BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 02 1996 13:345
| <<< Note 52.2761 by GMASEC::KELLY "Not The Wrong Person" >>>

| guess we don't need to arm-wrestle ovah him, eh? :-)

	We will have to.
52.2764Haag vs. Abassi, the sequelPSDV::SURRETTETheCluePhoneIsRinging,AndIt'sForYOU.Tue Apr 02 1996 14:089
    
    
    Well, my money is on 'Tine...
    
    Sorry Glen!
    
    W.
    
    
52.2765GMASEC::KELLYNot The Wrong PersonTue Apr 02 1996 14:091
    oo-la!  walter, i'm gonna hunt you down and give you a big kiss :-)))
52.2766BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 02 1996 14:125
| <<< Note 52.2765 by GMASEC::KELLY "Not The Wrong Person" >>>

| oo-la!  walter, i'm gonna hunt you down and give you a big kiss :-)))

	Hmmm.... for that remark Walter made..... ME TOO!
52.2767BUSY::SLABOUNTYFUBARTue Apr 02 1996 14:195
    
    	You'll never find me!!
    
    							Walter
    
52.2768USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Tue Apr 02 1996 18:025
    U have to be a REAL Baseball fan to enjoy Field of Dreams.  There are
    so many subelties, etc., that makes it a classic.  The actual quote
    from Mickey Mantle when the film first hit the box office was "It made
    me want to stop drinking after I saw that film.  Each time I watched if
    thereafter I cried."
52.2769USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Tue Apr 02 1996 18:021
    Top on Bob Costas' list also!
52.2770CSLALL::HENDERSONPlay ball!Tue Apr 02 1996 18:083

 I've never seen that one...guess I'd better rent it one o' these days.
52.2771WAHOO::LEVESQUEput the opening in backTue Apr 02 1996 18:174
    /U have to be a REAL Baseball fan to enjoy Field of Dreams. 
    
     In mathematical circles, they'd say that condition is necessary but
    not sufficient.
52.2772PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Apr 02 1996 18:272
   .2771  aagagag.  exactamundo, doc.
52.2773is this heaven?BROKE::PARTSTue Apr 02 1996 18:496
    
     
    i heard somewhere that the "field" actually does exists
    (sans ghosts) in iowa.
    
    
52.2774It's heaven if heaven = $$.SPECXN::CONLONTue Apr 02 1996 18:512
    They created the actual "field" for the movie, and it still exists
    as a tourist attraction (as I understand it.)
52.2775TROOA::BUTKOVICHI am NOT a wind stealer!Tue Apr 02 1996 19:406
    I thought the movie had at least as much to say about the father-son
    relationship, as it did about baseball.
    
    I read that the original field has been divided in half - corn is grown
    on one half and a baseball diamond remains on the other.  Apparently is
    still attracts a lot of tourists (especially Japanese)
52.2776MROA::YANNEKISTue Apr 02 1996 21:109
    
    IMO Bull Durham was a baseball movie ... Field of Dreams is a
    Dad/Son/Mid-Life Crisis with baseball as the string that holds it
    together.  
    
    Greg
    
    BTW - I liked both movies a lot
    
52.2777SALEM::DODAWorkin' on mysteries without any cluesTue Apr 02 1996 21:146
Part of the field is still there. Part of left field is now 
farmed again.

I'll go with Major League as my favorite baseball movie.

daryll
52.2778people will come daddyBROKE::PARTSTue Apr 02 1996 21:157
    
    | I read that the original field has been divided in half - corn is
    | grown on one half and a baseball diamond remains on the other. 
    | Apparently is still attracts a lot of tourists (especially Japanese)
    
    so annie was right.
    
52.2779SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatTue Apr 02 1996 21:215
    .2776
    
    Bull Durham is a rite-of-passage story with a baseball setting, not a
    baseball movie.  It is one of the very few such stories in which all of
    the major protagonists grow up together.
52.2780CSLALL::HENDERSONPlay ball!Wed Apr 03 1996 02:054


 I liked "The Natural" as a baseball movie..
52.2781POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Wed Apr 03 1996 02:081
    I liked "A League Of Their Own" as a baseball movie.
52.2782GIDDAY::BURTS.I.S.Wed Apr 03 1996 02:437
Are there any reasonable kid-type baseball movies?
Are there any reasonable scout sort of movies?


\C


52.2783EVMS::MORONEYwhile (!asleep) sheep++;Wed Apr 03 1996 02:547
re .2780:

> I liked "The Natural" as a baseball movie..

I was _in_ "The Natural" (sort of)  I was in the crowd at the ballpark at the
scene for the final game.  (didn't spot myself the one time I saw the movie
however...)
52.2784SCASS1::EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairWed Apr 03 1996 05:394
    
    > I was in the crowd at the ballpark at the scene for the final game.
    
    Guess they left that peanut-vendor scene on the cutting room floor.
52.2785SMURF::WALTERSWed Apr 03 1996 12:375
    Kid baseball movies:
    
    	The Sandlot
    	Angels in the Outfield
    	The Rookie ?  (where the kid becomes a mjor league pitcher.)
52.2786CTHU26::S_BURRIDGEWed Apr 03 1996 12:435
    I thought the best thing about "Field of Dreams" was the Burt Lancaster
    character, whose name I forget -- the small town doctor who had been a
    ballplayer in his youth.  I believe he was based on a real person. 
    
    -Stephen
52.2787ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionWed Apr 03 1996 12:485
    
    <--- he was. Moonlight something or other.
    
    My all-time favorite baseball movie has to be "Pride of the Yankees"
    still can bring a tear or two to my eyes.
52.2788ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionWed Apr 03 1996 12:482
    
    Moonlight Graham ,I believe was Lancaster's character's name.
52.2789CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsWed Apr 03 1996 13:095
    
    	I really enjoyed "Angels in the Outfield", Chele.
    
    	Karen
    
52.2790CONSLT::MCBRIDEKeep hands &amp; feet inside ride at all timesWed Apr 03 1996 13:091
    Also Bad News Bears
52.2791SALEM::DODAWorkin' on mysteries without any cluesWed Apr 03 1996 13:102
Bang the Drum Slowly
It happens every spring
52.2792BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoWed Apr 03 1996 13:157
| <<< Note 52.2781 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Alrighty, bye bye then." >>>

| I liked "A League Of Their Own" as a baseball movie.

	Yeah, that had to be one of the best baseball movies I had seen. Even
Madonna fit the roll. But then again, all she had to do was be herself, minus
the cones.
52.2793GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheWed Apr 03 1996 13:274
    
    i loved the bad news bears...and i really liked the movie "the
    sandlot".  of course, i also like "field of dreams", even tho a lot of
    the references to past baseball legends went right over my head. 
52.2794CHEFS::HANDLEY_IDo unto others...then split!Wed Apr 03 1996 13:288
    
    Burt Lancaster's character in "field of dreams" was Archie "moonlight"
    Graham.
    
    
    
    
    I.
52.2795BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Wed Apr 03 1996 13:285
How can anyone think BABE is a GREAT movie?

Mildly entertaining perhaps, maybe even amusing, but GREAT?

52.2796POLAR::RICHARDSONAlrighty, bye bye then.Wed Apr 03 1996 13:342
    Well, the academy thought it was great, and I thought it was great.
    Siskel and Ebert thought it was great, and my kids think it's great.
52.2797SALEM::DODAWorkin' on mysteries without any cluesWed Apr 03 1996 13:361
The pig plays ball?
52.2798SMURF::WALTERSWed Apr 03 1996 13:362
    I thought the veggies were ok, but the meat was a little overdone.
    
52.2799BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Momentary Lapse of ReasonWed Apr 03 1996 14:124
    
    	"The Rookie" is actually "Rookie of the Year".  Not a great
    	movie, but not entirely unwatchable, either.
    
52.2800BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Momentary Lapse of ReasonWed Apr 03 1996 14:123
    
    	And "The Bad News Bears" was great when it 1st came out.
    
52.2801SMURF::WALTERSWed Apr 03 1996 14:392
    Rookie of the Year, thassit.  First movie to feature the phrase "karnal
    bunt fungus", or something similar.
52.2802Field of DreamsLUDWIG::BARBIERIWed Apr 03 1996 15:456
      Field of Dreams is one of my all time favorite movies.  I like
      the combination of drama (the father-son thing) with the super-
      natural (such as when Terrence Mann faces the van and yells, 
      "Moonlight Graham!" after you thought he didn't see anything.
    
    						Tony
52.2803LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthWed Apr 03 1996 15:502
    i liked 'bad news bears'.  but then, i think walter matthau
    is terrific in anything.  even the way he _walks_ cracks me up.
52.2804GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheWed Apr 03 1996 15:547
    
    walter was in the 'bad news bears'????  the t.v. show????
    
    i thought it was someone else (who i recognize, but who's name i don't
    know..)
    
     
52.2805LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthWed Apr 03 1996 15:551
    nope, he was in the original movie.
52.2806BUSY::SLABOUNTYA seemingly endless timeWed Apr 03 1996 15:565
    
    	Raq, please don't say "You mean it was a movie too??".
    
    	8^)
    
52.2807GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheWed Apr 03 1996 16:025
    
    no, i knew there was a movie, i just never saw it.  i only saw the t.v.
    when i was a kid...
    
    
52.2808DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Apr 03 1996 16:198
Fargo. After all the hype, a bit disappointing, actually.

It was entertaining, in that Coen Bros sort of way, interesting characters and
dialog, but a bit slow. The folksiness way a bit overdone, IMO. The amount of
slash-and-gash was more than I thought it would be (good thing my wife didn't
go), and there was no real payoff at the end. It was just over.

All and all, I much preferred Barton Fink.
52.2809BROKE::PARTSWed Apr 03 1996 16:4617
    
    
    i'm glad someone mentioned "it happens every spring".  the movie
    was very good staring ray milland. 
    
    "bang the drum slowly" is also excellent.  it starred micheal moriarty
    and robert deniro (before he hit the big time). 
    
    there was a recent baseball movie "little big league" (i think
    that is the title.)  it is a suprisingly clever movie about a kid
    who inherits the minnesota twins and takes over as manager for
    a half season.
    
    i still think "field of dreams" is the best, simply because it
    touches deeper chords than most baseball flicks.
     
    
52.2810SALEM::DODAWorkin' on mysteries without any cluesWed Apr 03 1996 16:524
That version of Bang the Drum Slowly was a remake of the original 
which was done in the mid-50's I believe.

daryll
52.2811ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ChampionWed Apr 03 1996 17:224
    
    .2808
    
    why on heaven's earth would someone make a movie about North Dakota???
52.2812GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Wed Apr 03 1996 18:373
    My wife bought "Babe" on video. All I can say is CUTE. It was probably
    up for an Academy Award as a token to Washington that not all movies
    coming out of Hollywood are sleezy and violent. 
52.2813POWDML::DOUGANWed Apr 03 1996 18:592
    Babe did not come out of Hollywood!!!!  It's Australian - filmed in New
    South Wales.
52.2814BUSY::SLABOUNTYA swift kick in the butt - $1Wed Apr 03 1996 19:014
    
    	Ummm, that's an expression that doesn't necessarily point to the
    	filming location.
    
52.2815POWDML::DOUGANWed Apr 03 1996 19:068
    "....Anyone who has seen "Babe,'' the winsome fable out of Australia by the
    little-known director Chris Noonan,....." 
    
    GO AHEAD. LAUGH. BABE IS USED TO RIDICULE 
    
    By BEN BRANTLEY
    c. 1996 N.Y. Times News Service
    
52.2816CBHVAX::CBHMr. CreosoteWed Apr 03 1996 19:136
that reminds me of the usual tale of `if it was invented in America, 
regardless of nationality, it's an American invention.  If it was invented 
elsewhere by an American, regardless of nation, it's an American invention.'
Hmm.

Chris.
52.2817CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsWed Apr 03 1996 20:208
    
    	My mother bought a copy of "Babe" as an Easter gift to
    	my kids.  I hope it's good, as I expect it'll get 
    	multiple viewings chez moi.
    
    	Personally, I think it's cute for her to be serving up ham
    	on Easter Sunday ;-)
    
52.2818GIDDAY::BURTS.I.S.Thu Apr 04 1996 00:074
Babe is wonderful.  I particularly like the Greek chorus!


\C
52.2819SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatThu Apr 04 1996 17:058
52.2820Highly recommend this movie!SPECXN::CONLONMon Apr 08 1996 03:074
    If you intend to see "Primal Fear", see it SOON (before you read
    anything detailed about it.)
    
    It is excellent!!!!
52.2821 Ace Ventura!POLAR::TESSIERhakuda matadaTue Apr 09 1996 07:335
    
    	Girlfriend picke up the new Ace Vetura.  All I can say is I wasn'r
    Impressed by this one.  The first was the best.
    
    	Eric.
52.2822WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Apr 09 1996 10:351
    my wife bought me Pulp Fiction last Friday. way cool!
52.2823BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 09 1996 12:525
| <<< Note 52.2822 by WMOIS::GIROUARD_C >>>

| my wife bought me Pulp Fiction last Friday. way cool!

	Chip, didn't know you were into imaginary orange juice!
52.2824WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Apr 10 1996 10:401
    oh yeah, Glen. i love main-lining citrus!
52.2825LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthThu Apr 11 1996 15:223
    usual suspects.  what a great movie!  the clincher at
    the end made my eyes pop out like a couple of hard 
    boiled eggs.
52.2826MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Apr 11 1996 15:282
Yolks!

52.2827TROOA::BUTKOVICHI am NOT a wind stealer!Thu Apr 11 1996 15:415
    I totally agree - there is a lot of discussion on the ending (hidden
    behind spoilers) in the orion::movies conference (note 927).
    
    It is one of the best movies I have ever seen.
    
52.2828BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu Apr 11 1996 18:029

	A movie that should be talked about today, seeing Bob Ainsly is having
a box bash in his honor is:




                                What about Bob
52.2829hmmmm...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseThu Apr 11 1996 18:045
    
      I've noticed that in the Jackie Chan vehicle Rumble in the Bronx,
     there are mountains behind the Bronx.
    
      bb
52.2830filmed in Canada...SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoThu Apr 11 1996 18:173
    yeah, that's Bronx, Vancouver.  Surely you've heard of it? ;-)
    
    DougO
52.2831LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthMon Apr 15 1996 15:425
    dead man walking.  bravo, sean!  
    
    it strengthened my conviction that capital 
    punishment is as barbarous and wrong as an
    individual's acts of violence.
52.2832How To Succeed In Business...NQOS01::16.68.48.117::S_CoghillLuke 14:28Mon Apr 15 1996 16:2210
Rented "How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying" over the weekend. 
I had seen it on TV many years ago, and I saw the Kinley Players rendition 
about 18 or so years ago (Fred Grandy as Finch and Don Ameche as Mr. 
Bigly).

It was great.  My 13 and 14 year old sons watched it twice. When they asked 
me if this is really how big business works, I had to reply, "Sometimes."

I remember Robert Morse having a TV show in the '60s.  Is he still alive?  
If so, what's he doing?
52.2833PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Apr 15 1996 16:297
>I remember Robert Morse having a TV show in the '60s.  Is he still alive?  
>If so, what's he doing?

	think he's still alive.  he did a great one-man act as Capote
	not that long ago.

52.2834well worth the rentalWAHOO::LEVESQUEbut mama, that's where the fun isTue Apr 16 1996 12:4210
    Rented The Usual Suspects on the basis of the glowing reviews by Oph
    and Christine B. 
    
    I'd say it fell shy of greatness, but it was solid and hit most of the
    right notes. I guessed the ending, and it seemed a bit formulaic in
    spots (flashback with fill ins, use of mysterious omniscient and
    omnipresent supervillain, multitwist ending). No gratuitous T&A, though, 
    which bucks the trend.
    
     Solid performances all around, I thought. Very good +.
52.2835LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthTue Apr 16 1996 13:075
    |I guessed the ending...
    
    you did?  i'm impressed.  at what point in the movie
    did you realize who the mastermind was?  
    
52.2836WAHOO::LEVESQUEbut mama, that's where the fun isTue Apr 16 1996 13:4614
    Spoiler-
    
    
    While he was in the interview room going on about Kaiser Sauzet,
    shortly before the fake unmasking of the guy who was trying to go
    straight (as Kaiser Sauzet.) Thought I blew it when they had him playing
    the part of Kaiser Sauzet in the fake ending, but I was relieved when
    they continued to interview Verbal after that false denouement. As he
    was walking down the street after being released, I said "watch the
    cripple walk normally" and about ten seconds later he lost the limp and
    twisted hand. I also noticed he was the only one who didn't make a big
    deal out of the dossiers that each of the criminals had been handed by
    Kaiser Sauzet's lawyer; all the others got worked up over the pictures,
    etc.
52.2837SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsTue Apr 16 1996 13:5515
    
    re: .2831
    
    >dead man walking.  bravo, sean!
    
    >it strengthened my conviction that capital
    >punishment is as barbarous and wrong as an
    >individual's acts of violence.
    
     It did, Bonnie?? I could understand if this was a work of non-fiction,
    but a fictional movie "based" on real events is, well, nothing I'll
    ever base my convictions on...
    
    ymmv...
    
52.2838NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Apr 16 1996 13:566
>     It did, Bonnie?? I could understand if this was a work of non-fiction,
>    but a fictional movie "based" on real events is, well, nothing I'll
>    ever base my convictions on...

If the stuff we were taught in school about "Uncle Tom's Cabin" is true,
you seem to be in the minority.
52.2839LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthTue Apr 16 1996 13:583
    well, andy, all i can say is that i don't need
    to view a real execution to get a "sense" of 
    what it would be like.  
52.2840SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsTue Apr 16 1996 13:589
    
    
    ?????????
    
    "Uncle Tom's Cabin" was released as a movie under the docu-drama
    genre???
    
     When did this happen???
    
52.2841LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthTue Apr 16 1996 14:024
    .2836
    
    mark, that's good work!  not until verbal underwent
    his "miraculous" recovery did i know what was up!
52.2842SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove burrsTue Apr 16 1996 14:079
    
    re: .2839
    
    Bonnie,
    
     I'm curious... please don't take this as trying to foment an
    arguement, but did you feel just as convicted and touched when they
    graphically showed what was done to his victim??
    
52.2843LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthTue Apr 16 1996 14:112
    i felt much worse for those two kids out in the woods, andy.
    much worse.  
52.2844CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Apr 16 1996 14:525
    Rented Seven last night.  I liked it.  I always enjoy Morgan Freeman's
    performances and Brad Pitt wasn't too bad either in his role.  Very 
    creepy IMO.  
    
    Brian
52.2845ACISS2::LEECHextremistTue Apr 16 1996 17:285
    I rented _The Prophesy_ Sunday.  Could have been a lot better, IMO. 
    Glad I didn't spend the full admission price to see it.  Wasn't
    terrible, mind you, I just thought that the plot was not adequately
    taken advantage of.  It seemed to be lacking something, but I can't
    exactly put my finger on it.
52.2846SCAMP::MINICHINOTue Apr 16 1996 18:239
    Steve, 
    
    Saw the same movie last night. I liked it somewhat.I think what it was
    lacking for me, was clearer explaination why the cop (ex priest to be)
    was the mediator. What did he have to do with anything. I liked some of
    the dry humor but yes, it wasn't a full admission price type movie. 
    
    me
    
52.2847BSS::DEVEREAUXTue Apr 16 1996 19:354
    If _The Prophecy_ movie I saw is the same one you are refering to, I
    must admit that I had a really hard time following it (a first for me).
    I saw it at the theatre and came away quite disturbed. I dunno, maybe
    it was just me (';
52.2848ACISS2::LEECHextremistTue Apr 16 1996 19:4813
    .2846
    
    Yes, that is part of it.  My problem with it was that it could have
    been made into a real thriller had the plot been hammered out a bit
    more.  It started out okay, but then went downhill.  
    
    There was a lot more they could have done with this kind of
    plot...perhaps I was expecting too much.
    
    Note that I'm overlooking other nits, like the bastardization of an
    arch-angel of the Bible (Gabriel), making Lucifer an anti-hero of
    sorts, etc...I more or less expected these kinds of things from a
    Hollyweird production.  8^)
52.2849angel hartLANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthTue Apr 16 1996 19:551
    deniro played a great lew cipher!
52.2850'like gangbusters"SWAM1::MEUSE_DAThu Apr 18 1996 22:488
    
    rented to "To Die For".
    
    Good flick, worth the money.
    
    Nicole Kidman is great.
    
    
52.2851ACISS2::LEECHextremistFri Apr 19 1996 12:444
    She seems to get better looking as she ages.  She looked great in
    Batman, and just as good in the "To Die For" movie posters at Blockbuster.
    
    Didn't she used to be a red-head?
52.2852ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsFri Apr 19 1996 13:012
    
    only Tom Cruise, and her hairdresser knows for sure.
52.2853POLAR::RICHARDSONA one shake manSun Apr 21 1996 15:136
    I recently saw "Ace Ventura, When Nature Calls". I was expecting to be
    disappointed. I wasn't. It may not have been as funny as the first one,
    but, in my opinion, it was pretty darned close. Many scenes had me
    rolling on the floor.

    Guess I'm warped eh?
52.2854SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Apr 21 1996 15:156
    
    
    	I liked it too, so you're normal.
    
    
    :)
52.2855POLAR::RICHARDSONA one shake manSun Apr 21 1996 20:021
    I've got a bad feeling about this.
52.2856CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowSun Apr 21 1996 20:056
>    I've got a bad feeling about this.


   speaking of which, I bought the Star Wars Trilogy yesterday, wide
   screen version.  Yow!
52.2857SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Apr 21 1996 20:537
    
    re: "When nature calls"
    
    	The scene where he's getting shot with the poison darts had me
    ROTFL. :)
    
    
52.2859SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Apr 21 1996 21:064
    
    	hehehe...yeah...:)
    
    
52.2858POLAR::RICHARDSONA one shake manSun Apr 21 1996 22:572
    Especially when he got the last 3 in the back and all he did was look at
    them and say "Hhhhhheeeeey".
52.2860HANNAH::MODICAJourneyman NoterMon Apr 22 1996 11:3511
    
    Rented "Babe" this weekend.
    Family loved it!
    
    However, meal time, especially breakfast, has become somewhat
    stressful.
    
    Still, great scene when Babe and the duck were trying to get the
    alarm clock.
    
    						Hank
52.2861USAT02::HALLRGod loves even you!Mon Apr 22 1996 13:004
    rented "Dave" and "Stakeout" this weekend.  thot chemistryy between
    Dreyfus and Esevez (sp?) wasn't right; the female lead was a babe. 
    Dave was good for many laffs, sugar coated endeing which the wife
    loves.
52.2862ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon Apr 22 1996 13:103
    
    ron, if you want to sugar coat your wife, that's your business. Keep
    in mind, this is a family conference.
52.2863LANDO::OLIVER_Bapril is the coolest monthMon Apr 22 1996 14:525
    watched "priest".  it has sort of a far-fetched plot -
    a young priest dealing with his homosexuality - but 
    after willingly suspending my disbelief, it dawned on
    me that this was one heck of a movie.  and quite 
    controversial, too. 
52.2864PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Apr 22 1996 15:432
  .2863  yes, that were a good 'un.
52.2865BSS::SMITH_SMon Apr 22 1996 23:026
    re . 2858
    
       I liked that part where he came out of the rhino.  I lost it there.
    -ss
    	
    
52.2866POLAR::RICHARDSONA one shake manTue Apr 23 1996 00:222
    I was pounding on the floor during the "hooooo mama, oooooo mama, ooooh
    mama" scene.
52.2867WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Apr 23 1996 10:214
    finally watched seven last Saturday. also watched Devil In A Blue
    Dress.
    
    enjoyed both of them. Mouse was a riot in DWABD!
52.2868MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Tue Apr 23 1996 13:461
    Always loved War of the Worlds.
52.2869MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Tue Apr 23 1996 13:461
    AAAAAAAAhaaaaaaaa......
52.2870BUSY::SLABOUNTYDuster :== idiot driver magnetTue Apr 23 1996 13:493
    
    	Martin, get a life.
    
52.2871BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue Apr 23 1996 14:471
<----I wish it were Martin who put that in, and not Jack!
52.2872DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Apr 23 1996 15:265
re: "Devil in a Blue Dress":

For soem reason, that title reminded me of a recent film whose name I can't
remember (been trying to ...) - Denzel Washington plays a private investigator,
circa 1940's, 1950's, or so. It was fairly recent. Was that it? 
52.2873SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatTue Apr 23 1996 15:283
    .2872
    
    Film made from book.
52.2874WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Apr 23 1996 15:413
    correct, this was the first book installment. EZ Rollins was his
    character. he was fired from a job, got mixed up in some mob stuff and
    kinda stumbled into the PI game. i hope they do some sequels...
52.2875NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Apr 23 1996 15:571
Named after the Mitch Ryder song.  Well, he sang it.  I don't know who wrote it.
52.2876POWDML::HANGGELIHigh Maintenance HoneyTue Apr 23 1996 16:063
    
    William Stevenson and Shorty Long (who originally recorded it in 1964).
    
52.2877CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Apr 23 1996 16:099


  dang...now I'm trying to remember some other Shorty Long compositions..




 Jim
52.2878POWDML::HANGGELIHigh Maintenance HoneyTue Apr 23 1996 16:113
    
    He played piano on a lot of Elvis songs.
    
52.2879CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Apr 23 1996 16:2611

 
 yeah, but he also had a few things that he recorded..and I know just
 who to call to find out...





 Jim (I'll be back)
52.2880CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Apr 23 1996 16:3110


 bummer..called my friend Ron and he didn't know any other songs that 
 he did..he let me down..




 Jim
52.2881BUSY::SLABOUNTYErotic NightmaresTue Apr 23 1996 16:474
    
    	"Here Comes the Judge"
    	"Sing What You Wanna"
    
52.2882CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Apr 23 1996 16:564


 Thank you
52.2883CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsTue Apr 23 1996 19:3810
    
    	We rented "The Usual Suspects" this weekend (was it bonnie's 
    	glowing report I read here last week?)
    	
    	We enjoyed it, although the language was a bit bothersome.
    
    	I guessed wrong.  My husband guessed the killer, as usual.
    
    	Karen
    
52.2884CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsTue Apr 23 1996 19:538
    
    	As for Babe ... I admit that I fell asleep about 40 minutes into
    	the movie, but I wasn't that impressed by what I'd seen up to
    	that point.
    
    	We own it, so I'm sure it'll get another chance.
    
    
52.2885PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Apr 23 1996 19:588
    
>    	As for Babe ... I admit that I fell asleep about 40 minutes into
>    	the movie, but I wasn't that impressed by what I'd seen up to
>    	that point.

	i gave it about 20 minutes.  kept waiting for it to get good.
	nada.

52.2886POLAR::RICHARDSONA one shake manTue Apr 23 1996 20:041
    I liked it a lot. 
52.2887CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Apr 23 1996 20:058

 Watched "The Net" Friday night..not bad..




 Jim
52.2888MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Wed Apr 24 1996 15:177
  Z   i gave it about 20 minutes.  kept waiting for it to get good.
  Z   nada.
    
    I told Michelle....don't buy it.
    
    It was cute for the kids but they haven't exactly been bugging me to
    rent it again.
52.2889HANNAH::MODICAJourneyman NoterWed Apr 24 1996 15:209
    
    Being I have kids....so far at least....I watched it twice
    and I'll tell ya, the second time was even funnier.
    But yes, it did start slow.
    
    I thought the scene where the duck had bab trying to get the alarm
    clock was one of the funniest scenes I've seen in a long time.
    
    						Hank
52.2890POLAR::RICHARDSONA one shake manWed Apr 24 1996 15:321
    Hank, I'm with you.
52.2891WAHOO::LEVESQUEa legend begins at its endMon Apr 29 1996 13:3315
    Showgirls (R rated version from wimpy Blockbuster)
    
     I watched this with an open mind, determined not to dismiss the movie
    simply due to the NC-17 rating. Examined with an eye expecting a
    serious film with adult themes, this movie failed to perform. On a
    generous day it would get ** out of *****. Most days it would be a *.
    
     Much of the acting, especially by the lead female, was overdone. When
    she was supposed to appear street tough, she appeared to be manic.
    She's apparently not a particularly gifted actress. She's got a nice
    bod and she can move ok, but that does not an actress make. Even for a
    film like Showgirls.
    
     It dragged in spots, and was kinda long. Give it a pass. there are
    better ways to spend 2+ hours.
52.2892ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon Apr 29 1996 15:254
    
    saw Ironheart over the weekend. ok, for the martial arts action, but
    the acting was awful. Bolo Yeung played his usual heavy. Have only
    see him play a good guy once.
52.2893POLAR::RICHARDSONA message by wormMon Apr 29 1996 15:271
    Braveheart was great. I give it ****.
52.2894SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Apr 29 1996 15:316
52.2895BUSY::SLABOUNTYExit light ... enter night.Mon Apr 29 1996 15:374
    
    	I've never even seen "Darkman II" and there's a "Darkman III"
    	coming to cable soon.
    
52.2896BSS::PROCTOR_RAnd Fozil makes threeMon Apr 29 1996 15:414
    > I've never even seen "Darkman II" and there's a "Darkman III"
    > coming to cable soon.
    
    Darkman I was about a dude who changed lightbulbs for a living. (NOT!)
52.2897BUSY::SLABOUNTYExit light ... enter night.Mon Apr 29 1996 15:445
    
    	Bob, if it weren't for that "NOT!" I would have believed you.
    
    	Again, "NOT!".  8^)
    
52.2898just wait.. it's Being Discussed in Hollywood...BSS::PROCTOR_RAnd Fozil makes threeMon Apr 29 1996 15:476
    given the term I heard today:
    
     "the lonliest event in Hollywood is an original thought"
    
    I fully expect some idiot might try to make a movie based on light
    bulbs 'n hand jobs..
52.2899*** out of ****TROOA::BUTKOVICHI am NOT a wind stealer!Mon Apr 29 1996 16:036
    Saw "The Truth about Cats and Dogs" Saturday night - very enjoyable. It
    poses the question - if you had to spend eternity in the biosphere,
    would you take Time's Woman of the Year, or the Playmate of the Year
    with you?  Janeane Garofalo carried the movie quite easily and Uma
    Thurman has some good comedic timing.  AND, I have a new name to add to
    the boinkable celebrity topic.
52.2900GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheMon Apr 29 1996 16:4513
    
    i, too, hear 'the truth about cats and dogs' was a good movie (couple
    of friends say it this weekend), and i can't wait for it to come out on
    video.  we just never get to the movies any more.  partly because of
    the expense, partly because it's so much more comfy sitting on the
    couch as opposed to in a stiff chair.
    
    re: darkman,
    
    i saw the first one and deemed it horrible.  wouldn't see the second
    one when it came out.  i cringe at the thought that there's a 3rd...
    
    
52.2901BUSY::SLABOUNTYFUBARMon Apr 29 1996 16:503
    
    	The 1st "Darkman" movie was excellent.
    
52.2902in my opinionGAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheMon Apr 29 1996 16:536
    
    in your opinion.  i went with a bunch of friends when that first came
    out and only one of them really enjoyed it.  the rest of us all gave it
    2 thumbs down.
    
    
52.2903ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon Apr 29 1996 16:542
    
    Ebert has spoken
52.2905POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresMon Apr 29 1996 16:574
    
    Burgess Meredith.
    
    
52.2906WAHOO::LEVESQUEa legend begins at its endMon Apr 29 1996 16:571
    Burgess Meredith
52.2908POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresMon Apr 29 1996 16:573
    
    Who?
    
52.2909WAHOO::LEVESQUEa legend begins at its endMon Apr 29 1996 16:581
    <clunk!>
52.2910BRAVEHEARTWMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Apr 29 1996 17:012
 We watched Braveheart last Saturday night. We also thought it was a really
 good movie. 
52.2911SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatMon Apr 29 1996 17:025
    .2904
    
    Ann Margret.
    
    \hth, nnttm, ymmv, void where prohibited.
52.2912ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon Apr 29 1996 17:044
    
    you forgot 
    
    kfc, ipa, et al, etc....
52.2913POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresMon Apr 29 1996 17:044
    
    And Walter Matthau, Jack Lemmon.
    
    
52.2914SMURF::WALTERSMon Apr 29 1996 17:101
    Waterworld. Yawn.
52.2915ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon Apr 29 1996 17:174
    
    .2914
    
    Westworld was better.
52.2916BSS::PROCTOR_RAnd Fozil makes threeMon Apr 29 1996 17:223
    Bambi Meets Godzilla.
    
    three thumbs 'way! up.
52.2917SMURF::WALTERSMon Apr 29 1996 17:231
    Anything could be better.
52.2918The Abyss- restored versionSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Apr 29 1996 18:3911
    
    
    for sci-fi fans-
    
    Sci-fi channel is showing the directors cut of the" Abyss" May 4th.
    Letterboxed and includes scenes cut, ie: tidal waves etc.
    
    Runs 4 hours with commercials.
    
    
                    
52.2919DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Mon Apr 29 1996 18:476
    
    
    	I know....  I'm psyched!  I'll be at my folks house that
    	weekend...... I just hope I either don't forget to set my
    	VCR before I leave and/or watch it while I'm there.......
    
52.2920ACISS2::LEECHextremistTue Apr 30 1996 13:034
    What time?  What time?
    
    The Abyss is a great movie, with an excellent soundtrack for the
    surround-sound afiacondos.
52.2921Director's cut, yeah right....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Apr 30 1996 13:4330
                                                            
    Once upon a time, a "director's [he *can* be taught!] cut" was the
    version the director wanted shown, but couldn't because of a lost
    battle on some front (rating, time, desire to actually make money
    instead of art, etc).  For example Stanley Kubrick fought a few
    early battles, lost them, then re-released movies [ibid] later without
    a bunch of hee-haw hype.
    
    Now the hype of "director's [ibid.] cut" is what it's [ibid.] all about,
    so it's [ibid.] about as meaningful as "micro-brewed".
    
    
    Anyhow, they showed the "director's [ibid.] cut" of Abyss was
    recently shown at the Regent Theater.  I passed.
    
    You see, I saw the original release of Abyss on big screen and on TV,
    and the original theatrical release was far superior (and that's [ibid.]
    damning with faint praise).  A slow parade of one flat characters
    [ibid.], some really awful acting, and a few moments [ibid] of
    not-too-bad-for-its [ibid.] time computer graphics [ibid] effects....
    
    
    Well, I'll pass on the slower parade of flat....
    
    
    But you all do get all excited about this wonderful wonderful showing
    on Sci-Fi channel.  It is after all one of the best Sci-Fi movies of
    all time (there's that damning with faint praise again).
    
    								-mr. bill
52.2922BUSY::SLABOUNTYGreat baby! Delicious!!Tue Apr 30 1996 14:154
    
    	Mr. Bill, you forgot the [ibid] after "this" in the last para-
    	graph.
    
52.2923SMURF::WALTERSTue Apr 30 1996 14:251
    passim one, why dont'cha.
52.2924DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Apr 30 1996 14:334
    
    
    	Ummm .....  what the *^&*%   is   [ibid]  ??
    
52.2925SMURF::WALTERSTue Apr 30 1996 14:342
    IBID $4 for Goetz' chinchilla.
    
52.2926NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Apr 30 1996 14:361
You goetz a hot chin?
52.2927syllabus' syllabi's [and ibid. was misused....]PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Apr 30 1996 14:409
    
    Marsden provided me with a syllabus, and he doesn't cover advanced
    possessive until the second week of May.
    
    	Possessive of Goetz is:
    	a - Goetz'
    	b - Goetz's
    
    								-mr. bill
52.2928SMURF::WALTERSTue Apr 30 1996 14:433
    but we do know what gets Goetz' goat.
                             
                             
52.2929POLAR::RICHARDSONA message by wormTue Apr 30 1996 14:561
    How many VUP's is that?
52.2930NQOS01::s_coghill.dyo.dec.com::S_CoghillLuke 14:28Tue Apr 30 1996 15:083
Re: .2924

It's [ibid.], not [ibid], and it's an abbr. for [ibidem]
52.2931BUSY::SLABOUNTYch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haTue Apr 30 1996 15:164
    
    	JJ, she of term paper requirements, doesn't know what [ibid.]
    	means?
    
52.2932WAHOO::LEVESQUEa legend begins at its endTue Apr 30 1996 15:395
    >	Possessive of Goetz is:
    >	a - Goetz'
    >	b - Goetz's
    
        c - Bernie's
52.2933DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Apr 30 1996 15:394
    
    
    	Nope.........
    
52.2934BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Momentary Lapse of ReasonTue Apr 30 1996 15:424
    
    	It's Latin for "ditto", and means [VERY loosely translated] "the
    	same source info as the previous footnote".
    
52.2935DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Apr 30 1996 15:484
    
    
    	Thanks.... 'ditto', I understand.  =)
    
52.2936NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Apr 30 1996 15:581
If Rush Limbaugh were a Roman, he'd have legions of ibidheads.
52.2937not the sameNQOS01::s_coghill.dyo.dec.com::S_CoghillLuke 14:28Tue Apr 30 1996 16:063
Ibidem and ditto are not synonymous.  Ditto means the same as stated before 
or above.  It is a literal duplicate or copy.  Ibidem means in the same 
place.  That's why it's used for citations.
52.2938BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Momentary Lapse of ReasonTue Apr 30 1996 16:083
    
    	OK, so why are the 2 words different?
    
52.2939CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitTue Apr 30 1996 16:523
    Saw "Once were Warriors" t`other night and thought it was very good.
    
    
52.2940SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatTue Apr 30 1996 17:138
    .2921
    
    On the other hand, the director's cut of Bladerunner was orders of
    magnitude superior to the studio cut.  The additional 20-some seconds
    of film and the removal of the incredibly lame voice-over track turned
    the film from a mediocre thriller into a brilliant one, verging on the
    quality of William Gibson's written cyberpunk.  (Johnny Mnemonic, the
    film version, stank.)
52.2941One of those 'is what it is' movies ...BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Tue Apr 30 1996 17:226
Watched Pulp Fiction over the weekend. While many of its ingredients are
well thought out and acted, I can't see why this movie, as a whole,
got so much attention ...

Doug.
52.2942timeSWAM1::MEUSE_DATue Apr 30 1996 17:446
    
    re.2920
    
    It's on at 4pm in Los Angeles.
    but check your tv listing to be sure.
    
52.2943BUSY::SLABOUNTYA seemingly endless timeTue Apr 30 1996 17:455
    
    	Especially if you don't happen to be anywhere near LA.
    
    	8^)
    
52.2944usually monoSWAM1::MEUSE_DATue Apr 30 1996 18:006
    
    anybody here get the Sci-Fi channel in stereo mode.
    my local cable company advised it isn't available in stereo.
     
    
    
52.2945DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Apr 30 1996 18:055
    
    
    	I'm not sure..... we might.  I know my boyfriend has the
    	room set up with the surround sound idea........
    
52.2946POLAR::RICHARDSONA message by wormTue Apr 30 1996 18:101
    So, you moved into one of those afiacondos eh?
52.2947.SWAM1::MEUSE_DATue Apr 30 1996 18:158
    
    Well according to the Sci-Fi channel web site, they do broadcast
    in stereo mode.
    
    It's up to the local cable provider to provide it in stereo.
    
    
    
52.2948BUSY::SLABOUNTYA seemingly endless timeTue Apr 30 1996 18:206
    
    	RE: JJ
    
    	Now all you have to do is figure out how to turn the darned
    	system on, right?
    
52.2949SMURF::WALTERSTue Apr 30 1996 18:241
    {frantically looking for hammer & nails}
52.2950CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Apr 30 1996 18:284
    Watched usual suspects last night.  Much better than anticipated.  I
    don't know why I was expecting worse but I was pleasantly surprised. 
    
    Brian
52.2951DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Apr 30 1996 20:0913
    
    
    	re: .2947   David.
    	He graduated from WPI with a Master's in Elec. Engineering.
    	You figure it out.  =)
    
    	re: GTI
    
    	You don't know how close you are.  =)  I can turn everything
    	on fine, but it takes 4 remotes.  Now, trying to figure out
    	how to videotape ANYTHING on that *%*$*&^*(  VCR  is another
    	story.  =)
    
52.2952BUSY::SLABOUNTYAct like you own the companyTue Apr 30 1996 20:134
    
    	I can power up my whole A/V system with 2 remotes, but I need
    	4 of them to make use of all the features.
    
52.2953DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Apr 30 1996 20:1610
    
    
    	Remote one for cable box
    	Remote two for TV
    	Remote three for VCR
    	Remote four for stereo
    
    	Only need three to shut it all off.  The cable one shuts off
    	the box and the TV at the same time.
    
52.2954POLAR::RICHARDSONA message by wormTue Apr 30 1996 20:183
    Get a clapper.
    
    Make good use of the clap.
52.2955BUSY::SLABOUNTYAct like you own the companyTue Apr 30 1996 20:2612
    
    	I never shut my cable box off, and leave the TV plugged into it,
    	so the TV is always powered up even though it's shut off.  So I
    	don't need the cable remote unless I'm changing the channel.
    
    	I have 1 remote that controls my TV/VCR/stereo system, but no
    	controls for VCR programming.
    
    	I have 1 remote for the VCR, only to program in advance.
    
    	I have 1 remote for the TV, only to change the volume.
    
52.2956ACISS2::LEECHextremistTue Apr 30 1996 21:0321
    Don't get me started on remotes.  8^)  Lucky for me, I don't need a
    cable box, or I'd have 5 of the silly things.
    
    TV remote
    Pre-amp/signal processor remote
    CD remote
    VCR remote (which can double as the channel changer, too, in a pinch)
    
    And of course, when I want to watch a movie, I need to manually turn on
    the center channel and surround amps.  I am looking into the Parasound
    Scamp, though, which would turn on these amps when they get a signal-
    then, with one click of my Rotel remote, I will have all four amps
    coming to life without a need to manually turn them on!  Ain't technology 
    wonderful?  8^)
    
    (It's beside the point that if I'm watching a movie, I have to manually
    put the tape into the VCR- which sits close to the two amps in question. 
    8^) )
    
    
    -steve
52.2957EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairWed May 01 1996 05:4411
    
    Master William,
    
    I liked the Abyss.  Especially the part where Ed Harris breathes liquid
    and sinks to the bottom of the 18,000 ft. deep Cayman trough.
    
    That scene reminded me of my feelings for you.
    
    Regards,
    
    Barry
52.2958CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed May 01 1996 14:167
    Rented Moneytrain last night.  It was just okay.  Kind of disjointed
    and the infamous torch scenes were much to do about nothing IMO.  They
    had very little to do in supporting the movie and could have been left
    out all together IMO.  It wasn't particularly bad but I am glad I did
    not spend the $7.50 to see it at the theater.  
    
    Brian
52.2959ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon May 06 1996 13:234
    
    saw " The Fugitive" last night. Great movie, can't believe I hadn't
    seen this before now. Tommy Lee Jones was great, and deserved the Oscar
    for his performance.
52.2960POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresMon May 06 1996 13:304
    
    Harrison Ford %^].
    
    
52.2961NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon May 06 1996 13:331
Is that a recommended dealership?
52.2962POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of NightmaresMon May 06 1996 13:384
    
    Hoo yeah 8^).
    
    
52.2963Spoiler is way down there...SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatMon May 06 1996 15:4168
    Finally saw The Silence of the Lambs.  Two observations:
    
    1.  It wasn't ANYTHING like as horrific as expected.  Rather mild,
        actually.
    
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    2.  The "heroine," played by Jodie Foster, should NEVER have been
        allowed to graduate into Special Agenthood with her class.  She
        should have been flunked out cold.  Any qualified cop, knowing
        there was a psychopathically murderous nutcase at the other end of
        things, wouldn't even THINK of going down into a totally unknown,
        darkened basement alone after the guy.  Secure the area (look for a
        bulkhead or other possible exit from the basement), then pick up
        the phone and call for backup.  But she did go down, and then made
        enough noise to wake the dead in the next county.  (Can you say
        "How did she expect to hear the perp...?")  Utter incompetence from
        the get-go.  She survived only because she'd read the script and
        knew that she was supposed to spin around, piece a-blazing, when
        she heard him cock his hogleg.
52.2964DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Mon May 06 1996 15:429
    
    
    	Saw "Primal Fear"  on Friday night.  Really good flick.
    	I won't give away the plot but I'll just say they had
    	me convinced right up till the end.  And I swear, Richard
    	Gere gets better looking as he gets older.  It's also driving
    	me nuts as to what other shows/films I've seen Laura Linney
    	in.......  I'd recommend seeing it.
    
52.2965EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairMon May 06 1996 15:579
    
    .2963
    
    > But she did go down, and then made enough noise to wake the dead in 
    > the next county.  
    
    Oh yeah ? Then why didn't she wake up that woman in the bathtub ?
    
    
52.2966SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatMon May 06 1996 16:022
    The bathtub wasn't in the next county.  Jeez, do you have to have
    everything explained to you?
52.2967ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon May 06 1996 16:155
    
    Jodie Foster is still a babe though!! imnho anyway.
    
    Dick, this is Hollywood afterall. Good guys/gals never die, in fact
    it's in their contract.
52.2968SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon May 06 1996 16:257
    
    
    	barring the little hollyweird deviations from reality, I *liked*
    Silence of the Lambs. Ol' hannibal was the best...ta heck with Jodie.
    
    
    jim
52.2969DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon May 06 1996 16:276
You mean the writers actually didn't stick to the cold hard truth in
depicting proper police procedure??

You mean Hollywood actually took liberty with the facts???!!!

I'm truly shocked. I've never heard of this happening before.
52.2970SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatMon May 06 1996 16:282
    Anybody who read the book and can tell us whether it was Harris or the
    Hollyweird screenwriters who dook liberties?
52.2971PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 06 1996 16:312
  If I recall correctly, she was just as stupid in the book.
52.2972SMURF::WALTERSMon May 06 1996 16:352
    She did that in the book too.  When I saw the movie, I was amazed that
    she made the same mistake a second time.  
52.2973POLAR::RICHARDSONNooo, spank you!Mon May 06 1996 16:361
    She should return that Oscar she won, eh?
52.2974SMURF::WALTERSMon May 06 1996 16:402
    But now that I think of it, wasn't her father a small-town Sheriff
    who had been killed in the line of duty while going it alone?  
52.2975SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatMon May 06 1996 16:472
    So we were led to believe by the film.  Okay, so stupidity is
    hereditary.
52.2976SMURF::WALTERSMon May 06 1996 16:512
    It's Chekhov school of Drama rules.  Hollywood has to follow these
    over and above any FBI rules.
52.2977POLAR::RICHARDSONNooo, spank you!Mon May 06 1996 16:533
    Saw a preview for Twister last night. Looks kinda dumb. Bunch of people
    contorting themselves on a mat with coloured dots. Michael Crichton is
    losing his mind.
52.2978TROOA::BUTKOVICHI'm pink,therefore I'm spamMon May 06 1996 16:534
     > But she did go down, and then made enough noise to wake the dead in    
    > the next county.  
    
    Doesn't this belong in the "phrases that sound dirty" topic?
52.2979PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 06 1996 16:546
>    She should return that Oscar she won, eh?

	How she won it in the first place is beyond me.  Quite 
	a nothing role, I thought.

52.2980SNAX::BOURGOINEMon May 06 1996 17:0710


	Saw "James and the Giant Peach"


		Man....... I need to get out more......


Pat
52.2982a dudSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon May 06 1996 17:326
    
    Rented "Strange Days".
    
    Save your money, it's not very good.
    
    
52.2983PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 06 1996 17:334
  re Strange Days:

    Agreed.  I don't know what Ralph baby was thinking.
52.2984BSS::DEVEREAUXphreaking the mundaneMon May 06 1996 17:428
>>    Oh yeah ? Then why didn't she wake up that woman in the bathtub ?
    
    
    GRRRROOOSSSSSSSsssssss
    
    

    
52.2985ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon May 06 1996 17:474
    
    actually, the book was better than the movie. Iffen you want to read
    the prequel to "Silence of the Lambs" read "Red Dragon". Book was very,
    very good.
52.2986LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthMon May 06 1996 17:531
    love your suit.
52.2987POWDML::AJOHNSTONbeannachdMon May 06 1996 17:546
    re. "Red Dragon"
    
    The book was good. But the movie made from it, "Manhunter" was not up
    to the book _at_all_.
    
    And I do believe that Hopkins made a more believable Hannibal Lecter.
52.2988Home for the HolidaysSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon May 06 1996 18:008
    
    Rented "Home for the Holidays" with Holly Hunter, Anne Bancroft
    Charles Durning (sp?)
    
    Thought it was quite good. 
    
    The flying turkey scene is great.
    
52.2989that drumbeat againSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon May 06 1996 18:059
    
    re .2987
    
    maybe...but the scene with Iron Butterfly's big hit playing in the
    backround is great.
    
    
    
    
52.2990BSS::DEVEREAUXphreaking the mundaneMon May 06 1996 18:148
 >>   And I do believe that Hopkins made a more believable Hannibal Lecter.
    
    
    I completely agree.
    
    If it wouldn't have been for him I think the movie would've been a
    flop. I loved the end, but won't say what it was, don't want to *spoil*
    it for anyone who hasn't seen the movie yet.
52.2991LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthMon May 06 1996 18:231
    i'm having a friend for dinner.
52.2992ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon May 06 1996 18:422
    
    baked, or broiled oph.
52.2993LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthMon May 06 1996 18:491
    sushi-esque
52.2994=%^oWAHOO::LEVESQUEsparkle someone else's eyesMon May 06 1996 19:061
    she's gonna eat her friend raw?!!!!
52.2995ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon May 06 1996 19:116
    
    <nailing fingers to desk>
    
    .2986
    
    your sweet!
52.2996LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthMon May 06 1996 19:141
    with a nice bottle of chianti.  SLURP!
52.2997EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairMon May 06 1996 19:161
    ...and some fava beans.
52.2998LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthMon May 06 1996 19:235
    you know what made that movie?  it was literally a
    dark movie, claustrophobic, no light.  not one ray of
    sunshine in the whole movie.  even the opening scene
    when jodie is running the obstacle course in virginny,
    the day is dark, rainy, foreboding.  
52.2999SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatMon May 06 1996 19:337
    .2998
    
    Sorry, but if you want dark sets, go talk to Tim Burton.  What made
    Lambs barely tolerable was the superb characterization by Anthony
    Hopkins.  He's been called the "poor man's Richard Burton," but I
    rather think it's the other way around.  Hopkins never goes for the
    grand gesture, Burton never didn't go for it.
52.3000PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 06 1996 19:382
   i am wichoo, oph.  that was a big factor.
52.3001LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthMon May 06 1996 19:404
    burton is hopkin's idol.  hopkins was great in the movie,
    but i think demme was a wizard at creating just the right
    atmosphere for the actors.  jodie's hair was a mess, but
    hopkins never had a strand out of place.
52.3002Why Jodie's character went into the basement...SPECXN::CONLONMon May 06 1996 21:0611
    It was clear in the book that Jodie's character had to go down into
    the basement alone to face the 'bad guy'.

    He had been in a 'hostage' situation as a kid (12 years old or so)
    and he'd killed his grandmother (or grandparents) in the final minutes
    when the police were outside.  

    I forget the details now, but Jodie's character knew that this guy was
    likely to kill anyone he might have in the basement after he realized
    that Jodie's character knew he was the killer.  There was no time to
    do anything but go after him.
52.3003One of the few 'Oscar Sweeps' in the history of movies...SPECXN::CONLONMon May 06 1996 21:082
    Anthony Hopkins was wonderful in this movie ('Silence of the Lambs')
    - they deserved the top 5 Oscars for this film.
52.3004SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatMon May 06 1996 21:2115
    .3002
    
    > Jodie's character knew that this guy was likely to kill anyone he
    > might have in the basement after he realized that Jodie's character
    > knew he was the killer.  There was no time to do anything but go after
    > him...
    
    ...except go down there like a blundering fool, making a hellishly big
    racket to cover up any little noises he might make and thereby ensuring
    that he could find her (without the IR goggles, which she did NOT know
    about) while she couldn't find him.  Probable net result:  Two females
    killed, one escaped loony.
    
    The only thing that saved her, in the film at least, was the noise of
    his .44 Magnum penis substitute being cocked.
52.3005TROOA::BUTKOVICHI'm pink,therefore I'm spamMon May 06 1996 21:222
    "Seven" is another movie where *every* crime scene they went to seemed
    really dark and foreboding.  Didn't anybody pay their electricity bill?
52.3006GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheMon May 06 1996 21:247
    
    tho it has been a while, and i didn't watch the whole thing, i seem to
    recall that "9-1/2 weeks" was a dark movie.  tried to adjust the t.v.
    but it didn't really help.  was it made darker (low lighting, etc) or
    did we just have a really lousy t.v.??
    
    
52.3007BSS::DEVEREAUXphreaking the mundaneMon May 06 1996 21:343
    Speaking of dark movies...
    
    Alien was too.
52.3008EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairMon May 06 1996 21:364
    
    > Alien was too.
    
    Too what ?
52.3009CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsMon May 06 1996 21:371
    also, The Crow, and Batmen
52.3010EVMS::MORONEYyour innocence is no defenseMon May 06 1996 21:371
The "Batman" movies were rather dark as well.
52.3011BSS::DEVEREAUXphreaking the mundaneMon May 06 1996 21:386
    >> Alien was too.
    
    >Too what ?
    
    Alien was too dark.
    
52.3012It was definitely risky, but the book seemed to explain it.SPECXN::CONLONMon May 06 1996 21:5513
    RE: .3004  Dick Binder

    She spoke loudly on purpose (to make it sound like more FBI people
    were on the way - they weren't, of course.)

    After the lights went out, she did seem to make a racket when she was
    trying to catch her breath, but I think it was a 'special sound effect'
    (amplified) in the same way that the sound of his gun being cocked was
    also amplified.

    She did a good systematic search for him until the lights went out.
    Again, it seemed to make more sense in the book (why the character
    would take this huge risk to confront him without backup.)
52.3013two sick moviesPHXSS1::HEISERwatchman on the wallMon May 06 1996 23:222
    After seeing "Seven" and "Copy Cat" I question the wisdom in giving
    psychos more ideas.
52.3014POLAR::RICHARDSONNooo, spank you!Mon May 06 1996 23:231
    That's it, I'm renting copy cat!
52.3015BSS::SMITH_STue May 07 1996 02:573
    I saw this movie, "The Stoned Age".  It was a great story about
    sex, drugs, & rock & roll.  High-ly recommended.
    -ss
52.3016SMURF::WALTERSTue May 07 1996 12:3210
    One reason these movies are dark is to hide the inadequacies of
    the flesh'n gore special effects that we have come to expect.
    
    The juxtaposition of light and dark in a good spine chiller was once used
    to symbolize the forces of good and evil.  Movie makers seem to think
    that this is passe.  Ever see "Don't Look Now" with Julie Christie &
    Donald Sutherland?  Lots of bright outdoor shots of venice, but the
    dark parts were really effective.
     
    
52.3017CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue May 07 1996 12:577
    Rented Fair Game over the weekend.  It was okay in the 
    Specialist/Assassins type theme.  Definitely light on acting and the
    plot was predictable but seeing how this is what I was looking for, it
    fit the bill.  Rented Ed Wood as well and only got thorugh about 20
    minutes of it before I turned it off.  Boring.  
    
    Brian
52.3018ACISS2::LEECHextremistTue May 07 1996 12:596
    <-- I'd agree with you for a lot of "dark" movies.  The Crow, however,
    was very well done.  
    
    There will be a crow II coming out soon...I hope they do as good a job
    on this one.   Unfortunately, sequels are usually substandard copies
    of the originals.
52.3019POWDML::AJOHNSTONbeannachdTue May 07 1996 13:053
    Wouldn't a Crow sequel suffer from not having ... well, you know ...
    the dark and brooding actor that made the first Crow memorable being
    ... umm ... dead and therefore unavailable at any price?
52.3020WAHOO::LEVESQUEsparkle someone else's eyesTue May 07 1996 13:211
    That didn't seem to stop them the first time...
52.3021ACISS2::LEECHextremistTue May 07 1996 13:344
    <-- True enough.  8^)
    
    I think that they will have a "new" Crow... but that's just my take on
    it.  8^)
52.3022POLAR::RICHARDSONSpank you very much!Tue May 07 1996 13:391
    The next movie will probably be called "Holy Crow".
52.3023ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsTue May 07 1996 13:522
    
    <--- with Harry Carey as the lead.
52.3024POLAR::RICHARDSONSpank you very much!Tue May 07 1996 13:555
    'cept it will be set in Boston.
    
    The Crow is now a cop and he is found shouting at a bad guy:
    
    	"Alright! You! Get out of the CAH CAH CAH CAH CAH CAH!!"
52.3025ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsTue May 07 1996 13:562
    
    <--- agagagag
52.3026SMURF::WALTERSTue May 07 1996 13:591
    Will he be a rookie cop?
52.3027WAHOO::LEVESQUEsparkle someone else's eyesTue May 07 1996 14:103
    >Will he be a rookie cop?
    
     Aerie funny.
52.3028ACISS2::LEECHextremistTue May 07 1996 14:311
    We're really flying off on a tangent now...
52.3029SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 07 1996 14:365
    
    
    watch it or i'll put your neck in a hypotenuse...
    
    
52.3030BARSTR::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheTue May 07 1996 14:504
    
    i don't know if that's the right angle to take, cheeks...
    
    
52.3031LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthTue May 07 1996 14:535
    .3016
    
    "Don't Look Now" - i remember that movie...quite creepy.
    but what i also remember is the love scene between don
    and julie...very, very erotic.
52.3032SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 07 1996 16:475
    
    
    re: .3030
    
    	don't be obtuse. 
52.3033BSS::DEVEREAUXphreaking the mundaneWed May 08 1996 15:486
>>    I think that they will have a "new" Crow... but that's just my take on
>>    it.  8^)
    
    The "new" Crow is about a different person, so, ahem, obviously, it
    will have a different actor.
    
52.3034DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Wed May 08 1996 15:579
    
    
    	Hadn't heard much about the new Crow movie.  Last I heard
    	was Jon Bon Jovi had something to do with it but he's off
    	in London filming a different flick.  And as much as I love
    	Jon and his music (you can all stop gagging now), I couldn't
    	see him and the guys pulling off the darkness and 'anger' of
    	the first movie and soundtrack.
    
52.3037BUSY::SLABOUNTYGreat baby! Delicious!!Wed May 08 1996 20:3413
    
    	extract/noh filename
    
    	del
    	y
    
    	rep filename
    
    
    
    	And I certainly hope you found the site ... I've must've posted
    	the URL about 10 times in the last month.  8^)
    
52.3038CSLALL::SECURITYWed May 08 1996 20:341
    I've must've?!!!
52.3039PHXSS1::HEISERwatchman on the wallWed May 08 1996 20:364
    Re: -2
    
    I think you can use PAN to modify the contents of your own reply
    without deleting it.
52.3040BUSY::SLABOUNTYGreat baby! Delicious!!Wed May 08 1996 20:3810
    
    	RE: .3038
    
    	Dave Lunchbox, you've got SOME nerve correcting my spelling and
    	grammar.  8^)
    
    	It read "I've only posted", and I tried to change it to "I must've
    	posted", but apparently I didn't do too well.  But of course you
    	are correct.
    
52.3041TROOA::BUTKOVICHtragically unhipWed May 08 1996 20:3830
    The new "Crow" is going to be played by a French actor named Vincent
    Perez.  I liked him in "Indochine" and "Queen Margot".  Can't quite
    picture him in this role.  He was also very good in "Cyrano de
    Bergerac" which also starred Gerard Depardieu.
    
    Vincent Perez
    
    Actor filmography
            1.Crow II, The (1996) .... Ashe Corven 
              ... aka Crow: City of Angels, The (1996) 
            2.Par dela les nuages (1995) .... Niccolo 
              ... aka Al di la delle nuvole (1995) 
              ... aka Beyond the Clouds (1995) 
            3.Talk of Angels (1995) 
            4.Vie en rouge, La (1995) 
            5.Reine Margot, La (1994) .... La Mole 
              ... aka Queen Margot (1994) 
            6.American Ninja 5 (1993) .... Ninja 2 
            7.Fanfan (1993) .... Alexandre 
              ... aka Fanfan & Alexandre (1993) 
            8.Indochine (1992) .... Jean-Baptiste Le Guen 
              ... aka Indochina (1992) 
            9.Neige et le feu, La (1991) .... Jacques 
              ... aka Snow and Fire (1991) 
           10.Viaggio di Capitan Fracassa, Il (1991) .... Baron of Sigognac 
              ... aka Captain Fracassa's Journey (1991) 
           11.Cyrano de Bergerac (1990) .... Christian de Neuvillette 
    
           12.Hotel de France (1987) .... Serge 
    
52.3043POWDML::HANGGELILe beau est aussi utile que l'utileWed May 08 1996 20:433
    
    modify note/note_id="(where the note was before)"
                                                    
52.30448^)BUSY::SLABOUNTYGreat baby! Delicious!!Wed May 08 1996 20:5235
    
    	Oops, you're right, Deb ... Christine, here's the "Suzanne
    	Conlon method of adding a SOAPBOX entry":
    
    
    	reply [ create / exit / title]
    	extract/noh filename
    
    	del
    	y
    
    	rep filename
    	[edit to fix mistakes / exit / title]
    	set note x.z/note_id=x.y
    
    	reply [ create / exit / title]
    	extract/noh filename
    
    	del
    	y
    
    	rep filename
    	[edit to fix mistakes / exit / title]
    	set note x.z/note_id=x.y
    
    	reply [ create / exit / title]
    	extract/noh filename
    
    	del
    	y
    
    	rep filename
    	[edit to fix mistakes / exit / title]
    	set note x.z/note_id=x.y
    
52.3045CSLALL::SECURITYWed May 08 1996 20:531
    seems like a lot of trouble to correct a minor error to me.
52.3046SPECXN::CONLONWed May 08 1996 21:154
    It's done for Shawn's benefit. 

    Gives him something else to think and write about.  :>

52.3047BUSY::SLABOUNTYch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haWed May 08 1996 21:339
    
    	Yes, and helps to improve my typing skills because:
    
    	1) I comment on it regularly
    	2) I take more care than usual in proof-reading replies so I
    	   don't end up doing the same thing.
    
    	8^)
    
52.3048CSLALL::SECURITYWed May 08 1996 21:389
    Speaking of movies, my girlfriend and I rented "Now and then" this
    weekend. She usually has ghastly taste in movies; often it's some sappy
    wannabee tear jerker. This was good, though, the whole menu of emotion.
    Happy, sad, angry, triumphant, amused, frustrated, it was great. It had
    the woman that played Wilma Flintstone, the girl from the Addams
    Family, and some other people. Funny, it was.
    
    
    lunchbox
52.3049BUSY::SLABOUNTYch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haWed May 08 1996 21:5698
                            Now and Then (1995)

  A summer when four friends made a promise to return anytime they needed
            each other. Twenty years later, that time has come.

                                1995 Color

                           [*][*][*][*][*][*][*]
                             7.6/10 (93 votes)

Produced by: First Independant / Moving Pictures / New Line Cinema
Sound Mix: DTS
Genre(s)/keyword(s): romance
Certification: USA:PG-13
MPAA reasons: Rated PG-13 for adolescent sex discussions.
Runtime: Germany:96

Also Known As:
     Gaslight Addition (1995)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Directed by
     Lesli Linka Glatter

Cast (in credits order) probably complete
     Christina Ricci .... Young Roberta
     Rosie O'Donnell .... Roberta
     Thora Birch .... Young Tina
     Melanie Griffith .... Tina
     Gaby Hoffmann .... Young Samantha
     Demi Moore .... Samantha
     Ashleigh Aston Moore .... Young Chrissy
     Rita Wilson .... Chrissy
     Janeane Garofalo .... Wiladine
     Devon Sawa .... Scott Wormer
     rest of cast listed alphabetically
     Hank Azaria .... Bud Kent
     James Paul Cleckler .... Catcher
     Bradley Coryell .... Wormer brother
     Kellen Crosby .... Kenny
     Lolita Davidovitch .... Mrs. Albertson (Samantha's mom)
     Jamison B. Dowd .... Bully
     Carl Espy .... Dr. Morton Williams
     Brendan Fraser .... Vietnam Veteran (uncredited)
     Willa Glen .... Angela Albertson
     Justin Humphrey .... Wormer brother
     Bonnie Hunt .... Mrs. Dewitt (Chrissy's mom)
     James Wilson Keane .... Boy With Basketball
     Cloris Leachman .... Mrs. Albertson (Samantha's grandmother)
     Geoff McKnight .... Tractor Driver
     T.S. Morgan .... Limo Driver
     Ric Reitz .... Mr. Albertson
     Travis Robertson .... Wormer brother
     Beverly Shelton .... Eda
     Walter Sparrow .... Crazy Pete
     Joey Stinson .... Outfielder
     Tucker Stone .... Young Morton
     Alice Tew .... Baby

Written by
     I. Marlene King

Cinematography by
     Ueli Steiger

Music by
     Cliff Eidelman

Costume Design by
     Deena Appel

Film Editing by
     Jacqueline Cambas

Produced by
     Eric McLeod (co-producer)
     Demi Moore
     Jennifer Todd (executive)
     Suzanne Todd

Other crew
     Dawn Soler (music supervisor)

Links with other movies

references
     "Bonanza" (1959)
     "My Three Sons" (1960)
     "Family Affair" (1966)
     "Brady Bunch, The" (1969)
     "Courtship of Eddie's Father, The" (1969)
     "Partridge Family, The" (1970)
     Beyond the Valley of the Dolls (1970)
features
     Love Story (1970)

52.3050\CSLALL::SECURITYWed May 08 1996 21:596
    That Bud Kent character was the best!!! He was only in the movie for
    about three minutes, but he was a howl!!! He was some swinging guy one
    girl's mother was dating, he had this cool leisure suit, a scarf, used
    car salesman hairdo, he was grooooooovy!!!!
    
    lunchbox
52.3051BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Momentary Lapse of ReasonWed May 08 1996 22:045
    
    	Bud Kent [Hank Azaria] is Helen Hunt's boyfriend.
    
    	Lucky guy.
    
52.3052DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Thu May 09 1996 14:557
    
    
    	Some of my friends told me they heard that Helen Hunt
    	'plays for the other team'.  I told 'em I thought they
    	were wrong, so if she really is dating that guy, maybe
    	I'm right.  =)
    
52.3053switch hitter?WAHOO::LEVESQUEwhiskey. line 'em upThu May 09 1996 15:051
    or maybe you're both right
52.3054BUSY::SLABOUNTYAfterbirth of a NationThu May 09 1996 15:185
    
    	Helen Hunt is way too gorgeous to be a lesbian.
    
    	8^)
    
52.3055GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheThu May 09 1996 15:288
    
    in an article i read about her a few months ago, they did say she was
    in a relationship, but would say with whom, and also didn't mention if
    it was a he or she she was involved with.  they did say she is wanting
    to have a baby soon, but we all know you don't really need a man for
    that...
    
    :>
52.3056LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthThu May 09 1996 15:311
    a baby soon?  sexist swine!
52.3057PHXSS1::HEISERwatchman on the wallThu May 09 1996 16:424
    >    	Helen Hunt is way too gorgeous to be a lesbian.
    
    some also say that about the author of the lyrics that were most
    recently posted to the song topic.
52.3058BUSY::SLABOUNTYAlways a Best Man, never a groomThu May 09 1996 16:563
    
    	Melissa is OK.  Helen is gorgeous.
    
52.3059DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Thu May 09 1996 18:007
    
    
    	What about Elisabeth Shue?
    
    	Rumor is she's stated she'd like to have a sexual relationship
    	with a woman...........
    
52.3060BUSY::SLABOUNTYAntisocialThu May 09 1996 18:0410
    
    	You see, I put a smiley on the Helen Hunt remark.  That means
    	that whatever I said right before that was very probably a
    	joke or snappy retort or "common misconception" reply [and
    	that reply would fall under the latter category].
    
    	If there's a barrage of "what about [name]" replies, it will
    	depress me more than anything ... unless I happen to be in the
    	company of 2 or 3 of them at once some time.  8^)
    
52.3061CSLALL::SECURITYThu May 09 1996 18:141
    What about madonna? :>)
52.3062DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Thu May 09 1996 18:165
    
    
    	Not to worry...... those are the only two I've recently
    	heard about.  =)
    
52.3063BUSY::SLABOUNTYAs you wishThu May 09 1996 18:177
    
    	What about I ask Jim Henderson to walk over there and beat you
    	senseless?  Shouldn't take too long.  8^)
    
    	Madonna shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as
    	Helen Hunt.
    
52.3064NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu May 09 1996 18:181
You just did.
52.3065CSLALL::SECURITYThu May 09 1996 18:191
    Helen Hunt has no piercings that I know of...we could never be married.
52.3066BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu May 09 1996 18:2013
| <<< Note 52.3054 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Afterbirth of a Nation" >>>


| Helen Hunt is way too gorgeous to be a lesbian.

	That's right... lesbians are just ugly. How could I forget? 

	Helen is supposed to be engaged to Hank Azaria, who is a voice on the
Simpson's, and is also in the movie the Bird Cage. He plays the gay houseboy.


Glen

52.3067BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu May 09 1996 18:2113
| <<< Note 52.3057 by PHXSS1::HEISER "watchman on the wall" >>>

| >    	Helen Hunt is way too gorgeous to be a lesbian.

| some also say that about the author of the lyrics that were most
| recently posted to the song topic.

	Not sure if you meant some say Melissa Ethridge is way too gorgeous to
be a lesbian, or if you were wondering if she was one. If the latter, she is a
lesbian. She is very out.


Glen
52.3068BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu May 09 1996 18:228
| <<< Note 52.3059 by DECWIN::JUDY "That's *Ms. Bitch* to you!" >>>


| What about Elisabeth Shue?

	Don't know... I wish Andrew Shue was. 


52.3069BUSY::SLABOUNTYAs you wishThu May 09 1996 18:229
    
    	Dave Lunchbox, it's comforting to know that the fact that you're
    	not married to Helen Hunt is strictly your choice and not hers.
    
    
    	RE: Gerald
    
    	Wise guy.  8^)
    
52.3070BUSY::SLABOUNTYAs you wishThu May 09 1996 18:236
    
	>Don't know... I wish Andrew Shue was. 
    
    	You wish he was interested in having a sexual relationship with
    	a female?  Why is that?
    
52.3071BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu May 09 1996 18:236
| <<< Note 52.3063 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "As you wish" >>>


| Madonna shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Helen Hunt.

	Why?
52.3072LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthThu May 09 1996 18:241
    i've always had my doubts about maggie thatcher.
52.3073BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu May 09 1996 18:291
she's a looker
52.3074BUSY::SLABOUNTYAs you wishThu May 09 1996 18:316
    
    	Please define "looker".
    
    	Hopefully we're both thinking of the "has eyes, and the ability
    	to use them as instruments of vision" definition.
    
52.3075ACISS2::LEECHThu May 09 1996 19:022
    I can't picture Helen Hunt, yet the name sounds very familiar.  What
    were her last couple of movies (and what part did she play)?
52.3076CSLALL::SECURITYThu May 09 1996 19:041
    enter Shawn with Helen Hunt's life story...
52.3077BUSY::SLABOUNTYAs you wishThu May 09 1996 19:095
    
    	She was born a poor black child ...
    
    	... oops, wrong story.
    
52.3078CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu May 09 1996 19:101
    She played Pam Smart, who was actually pretty dumb.  
52.3079NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu May 09 1996 19:141
Pame.  Stupid spelling too.
52.3080BUSY::SLABOUNTYAs you wishThu May 09 1996 19:1464
    
                                 Helen Hunt

Actress
       1. Twister (1996)
       2. Kiss of Death (1995) .... Bev Kilmartin
       3. "Wild West, The" (1993) (mini) (voice) .... Abbie Bright
       4. In the Company of Darkness (1993) (TV) .... Gina Pulasky
       5. "Mad About You" (1992) .... Jamie Buchman
       6. Bob Roberts (1992) (special appearance) .... Hospital Reporter,
          Rose Pondell
       7. Mr. Saturday Night (1992) .... Annie
       8. Trancers III (1992) .... Lena
       9. Waterdance, The (1992) .... Anna
      10. "My Life and Times" (1991) .... Rebecca Miller
      11. If Looks Could Kill (1991)
          ... aka Teen Agent (1991)
      12. Into the Badlands (1991) (TV) .... Blossom
      13. Murder in New Hampshire: The Pamela Wojas Smart Story (1991) (TV)
          .... Pamela Smart
      14. Only You (1991) .... Claire Enfield
      15. Trancers II (1991) .... Lena Deth
      16. Darkroom (1990)

      17. Incident at Dark River (1989) (TV)
          ... aka Dark River - A Father's Revenge (1989) (TV)
      18. Next of Kin (1989) .... Jessie Gates
      19. Miles from Home (1988) .... Jennifer
      20. Shooter (1988) (TV) .... Tracey
      21. Stealing Home (1988) .... "Special Appearance"
      22. Project X (1987) .... Teri
      23. Peggy Sue Got Married (1986) .... Beth Bodell
      24. Armchair Hacker, The (1985) .... Serena Vickers
      25. Girls Just Want to Have Fun (1985) .... Lynne
      26. Trancers (1985) .... Leena
          ... aka Future Cop (1985)
      27. French Lesson (1984) .... Henrietta
          ... aka Frog Prince, The (1984)
      28. Sweet Revenge (1984) (TV) .... Debbie Markham
      29. Bill: On His Own (1983) (TV) .... Jenny Wells
      30. Choices of the Heart (1983) (TV) .... Kathy
          ... aka In December the Roses Will Bloom Again (1983) (TV)
      31. Quarterback Princess (1983) (TV) .... Tami Maida
      32. "It Takes Two" (1982)
      33. "St. Elsewhere" (1982) .... Clancy Williams
      34. Desperate Lives (1982) (TV) .... Sandy Cameron
      35. Angel Dusted (1981) (TV) .... Lizzie Eaton
      36. Child Bride of Short Creek (1981) (TV) .... Naomi
      37. Miracle of Kathy Miller, The (1981) (TV) .... Kathy Miller

      38. Transplant (1979) (TV)
      39. "Fitzpatricks, The" (1977) .... Kerry Gerardi
      40. Rollercoaster (1977) .... Tracy Calder
      41. Spell, The (1977) (TV) .... Kristina Matchett
      42. "Swiss Family Robinson" (1975) .... Helga
      43. All Together Now (1975) (TV) .... Susan Lindsay
      44. Death Scream (1975) (TV) .... Teila Rodriguez
          ... aka Woman Who Cried Murder, The (1975)
      45. "Amy Prentiss" (1974) .... Jill Prentiss
      46. Pioneer Woman (1973) (TV) .... Sarah Sargeant
          ... aka Pioneers (1973) (TV)

Note: the titles that start with a quote (") are TV series

52.3081BUSY::SLABOUNTYAs you wishThu May 09 1996 19:155
    
    	Steve, she's the female lead in "Mad About You".
    
    	[That's a TV show, Andy.]
    
52.3082CSLALL::SECURITYThu May 09 1996 19:172
    The one who is trying to get pregnant?! I didn't even recognize her in
    the movie!!!
52.3083BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Thu May 09 1996 19:264
    
    	Yes, that's her.  The 1 who isn't trying to get pregnant is
    	Paul Reiser.
    
52.3084Slaughter DaughterDECWIN::RALTOBananas in Pajamas??Thu May 09 1996 19:277
    The Helen Hunt list a few back seems to be missing her (occasional?)
    role as one of Murray Slaughter's daughters in "The Mary Tyler Moore
    Show" (1970-1977).
    
    She looked the same back then, only younger.  Needless to add... :-)
    
    Chris
52.3085I told my wife I'd never use this "joke", but wthDECWIN::RALTOBananas in Pajamas??Thu May 09 1996 19:287
    >	Yes, that's her.  The 1 who isn't trying to get pregnant is
    >	Paul Reiser.
    
    Well, if he's a Reiser, then she shouldn't have much trouble
    getting preggers.
    
    Chris
52.3086BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Thu May 09 1996 19:294
    
    	I think I remember a "pointer" to "MTM", but it didn't say
    	why they were connected.
    
52.3087ACISS2::LEECHThu May 09 1996 20:2911
    .3080
    
    Thanks, but I haven't seen any of those (except maybe one of the cheapo
    Trancers movies), and can't place her on any of the TV shows I've seen
    (they were on too long ago for my short-term TV memory).
    
    Oh well.  I do plan on seeing Twister soon, so I'll be sure to keep my
    eyes peeled.
    
    
    -steve
52.3088ACISS2::LEECHThu May 09 1996 20:329
    .3081
    
    I've never seen "Mad About You".  I don't watch much television, and
    when I do it usually is not a sitcom.  
    
    Is she blonde?
    
    
    -steve
52.3089ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsThu May 09 1996 20:322
    
    very
52.3090BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu May 09 1996 20:433

	She looks like Jodi Foster, but a softer version. Very pretty.
52.3091TwisterSWAM1::MEUSE_DAThu May 09 1996 22:4311
    
    Twister
    
    Read some prerelease screening reviews.
    
    Lots of FX, weak story, more like a thrill ride.
    
    Plan to see it Sunday, if i can get a ticket.
    
    
    
52.3092She'd be near the top of my listMOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri May 10 1996 00:469
re:              <<< Note 52.3080 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "As you wish" >>>

Unless I missed it, your concordance is severely incomplete, Shawn.

Just this week a two-part "Highway to Heaving" segment guest starring
Helen Hunt was broadcast on The Family Channel, entitled "Thoroughbreds".

(Yes - I'm another Helen Hunt fan.)

52.3093SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove jerksFri May 10 1996 12:4613
    
    
    re: .3081
    
    >Steve, she's the female lead in "Mad About You".
    
    >[That's a TV show, Andy.]
    
    
    Thanks Shawn...
    
     BTW... my hair's much cleaner nowadays...
    
52.3094WAHOO::LEVESQUEexterminatorFri May 10 1996 12:591
    And his socks are arranged by color.
52.3095GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheFri May 10 1996 13:375
    andy, you should check out "mad about you"...this couple has great
    chemistry and are very fun to watch together...much like you and your
    better half. :>   
    
    
52.3096BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughFri May 10 1996 15:384
    
    	Jack, all I can do is post the info from my 1 source ... if it's
    	not completely accurate there's not much I can do about it.
    
52.3097CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowSat May 11 1996 22:1212


 Saw Twister today..incredible special effects.  Leave the story line out
 and it's a great movie ;-)

 See it in a theatre with a good sound system.  




 Jim
52.3098See http://www.nssl.uoknor.edu/COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertSun May 12 1996 00:373
Yeah.  Saw it today, too.  The story was bogus, as was just about every
technical detail.  But it was one of those movies that if you're going
to see it, you should see it on a big screen with big sound.
52.3099BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoSun May 12 1996 02:542
John, your noting reminds me of a twister sometimes... a lot of wind trying to
do destruction.
52.3100CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowSun May 12 1996 03:304


 How nice
52.3101SPECXN::CONLONMon May 13 1996 03:1412
    We saw "Twister" yesterday, too.  Great special effects!!
    We loved it!

    I bought a book called "Twister" ("The Science of Tornadoes and
    the Making of an Adventure Movie") after seeing the movie.

    It's not the 'storyline' of the movie at all.  It's about various
    tornadoes (and the research involved, including the efforts of the
    group called "VORTEX") with some small amounts of information about 
    how the "Twister" movie was made.

    Interesting stuff.
52.3102You get your $$$ worth in special effectsTROOA::BUTKOVICHtragically unhipMon May 13 1996 04:176
    Just got home from seeing "Twister" - Industrial Light and Sound has
    outdone itself - amazing special effects.  It MUST be seen in a theatre
    with good sound.  Like others have said - too bad the storyline doesn't
    hold up as well.  And what the hell make of truck were they driving!?  I
    kept trying to make it out but never did - maybe on purpose?  This was
    directed Jan de Bont, who also directed "Speed"
52.3103Remember the preview scene with the big tire hitting windshield?SPECXN::CONLONMon May 13 1996 05:0122
    The storyline doesn't matter in "Twister", IMO - we didn't go to
    see what the characters were doing, anyway.  We wanted to see the
    special effects created for the tornadoes (and they were cool!!)

    By the way, if you've seen the previews of "Twister" and you've
    also seen the movie, you may have noticed that the big 'preview'
    scene (where the tractor is flying toward the camera view inside
    a car and a huge tire smashes into the windshield) is not actually
    in the movie itself.

    The book I'm reading ("Twister, The Science of Tornadoes and the
    Making of an Adventure Movie") describes the test film that ILM
    (Industrial Light and Magic) made to prove they could do a good
    job with creating tornadoes.  This test film sounds exactly like
    this preview footage that didn't make it into the movie.

    We were wondering about it after we saw the movie (since this scene
    is so stunning) - apparently, it was stunning enough to prove they
    could do tornadoes and they didn't want to waste the footage so
    they've been using it in the previews for "Twister".

    Just thought I'd pass this information along...  :)
52.3104EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairMon May 13 1996 05:0410
    <--- Saw it this evening.  The truck "looked" like a new Dodge.
    
         Incredible effects.  Almost like the real thing...the swirling
         debris field is exactly like a real tornado's appearance.
    	 An F-5 is like a vacuum cleaner...it doesn't leave debris.
    
    	 No ruining the ending, but flying corncobs will certainly enter
         common vernacular.
    
    	 Too bad about that plot.
52.3105"It's a hell of a ride", as Bill Paxton said recently.SPECXN::CONLONMon May 13 1996 05:159
    The plot was typical Michael Crichton 'adventure' fare - "Twister"
    is sort of "Jurassic Park" with tornadoes instead of dinosaurs:

       Smart scientists go in over their heads with really cool-looking
       but very scary 'monsters'.  :)

    The special effects *are* these movies, and they are definitely
    worth it!!  The plot doesn't really matter, IMO.

52.3106The short review (well *somebody* had to say it)....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon May 13 1996 12:194
    
    Twister sucked!
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3107Worse than Touchstone's first....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon May 13 1996 12:2516
    
|   But it was one of those movies that if you're going to see it, you
|   should see it on a big screen with big sound.
    
    Didn't help.  Saw it on a big screen with digital THX.
    
    On the special effects, sorry, I'm just not all that impressed with
    flocking in cylindrical coordinate systems.
    
    On the sound.  Early quadrophonic meets "Earthquake". 
    Ping-Pong Pong-Pong squaaaaaaaaaaaaauk squaaaaaaaaaak.
    
    On the story.  You're kidding right?  To say the story was bogus
    doesn't come close.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3108BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon May 13 1996 12:293

	Twister is a GAME... people.....
52.3109NUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighMon May 13 1996 13:334
Some radio person suggested that the best place to watch "Twister" is in
a drive in movie in a corn field in Oklahoma.

Art
52.3110BOXORN::HAYSSome things are worth dying forMon May 13 1996 14:314
With a big thunderstorm on the way??


Phil
52.3111Toto? Toto? Are we still in Oklahoma?BSS::PROCTOR_RFear is my copilot...Mon May 13 1996 14:334
    > With a big thunderstorm on the way??
    
    and some weird ol' green lady on a broomstick with some flying monkeys
    and a large farmhouse that blows past..
52.3112SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon May 13 1996 14:4711
    
    
    	
>    On the special effects, sorry, I'm just not all that impressed with
>    flocking in cylindrical coordinate systems.
    
    	I'll admit my ignorance here....what is flocking in a cylindrical
    coordinate system? I'm mildly familiar with cylindrical coordrinate
    systems (very mild actually). :)
    
    	jim
52.3113BSS::PROCTOR_RFear is my copilot...Mon May 13 1996 14:495
    re:  Note 52.3112 by SUBPAC::SADIN
    
    >  ...what is flocking in a cylindrical coordinate system?
    
    Are you *sure* you want me to answer that?
52.3114SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon May 13 1996 14:567
    
    
    go for it. I aced my pre-calc course, so I've been able to cut down on
    the prozac intake. I should be able to handle it now. ;*)
    
    
    jim
52.3115Helpful hint - turn *OFF* screen savers before SPEC testing....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon May 13 1996 15:148
    One of the common screen savers demonstrates flocking in a 2D cartesian
    coordinate system.  Check out "swarm of bees."
    
    Twister is the same thing, only this time it's in a 3D cylindrical
    coordinate system.  (And there's more particles chasing more seeds.)
    (More bees chasing rabbits.)
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3116SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon May 13 1996 16:145
    
    
    	Ohhhhh...ok. I think I see what you're getting at. thanks.
    
    jim
52.3117SPECXN::CONLONMon May 13 1996 16:165
    The nice thing about movies is that it's possible to enjoy them
    whether everyone else does or not.
    
    I'm going to see "Twister" again.  :)
    
52.3118POWDML::HANGGELIComing apart at the seamsMon May 13 1996 16:216
    
    I feel pretty lame 8^).  Every time I heard "Twister" advertised on the
    radio, I thought it was a movie about the game.
    
    Argh 8^).
    
52.3119BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughMon May 13 1996 16:264
    
    	A movie based on the "Twister" game would be pretty lame, even
    	by MY standards.
    
52.3120POWDML::HANGGELIComing apart at the seamsMon May 13 1996 16:303
    
    I don't get out much.
    
52.3121CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon May 13 1996 16:3010


 I'm planning on seeing Twister agagin..hopefully this time the woman
 sitting a few rows back who seemed to think she was home watching TV
 will not be there.



 Jim
52.3122RE: DebBUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughMon May 13 1996 16:303
    
    	I'm just the opposite ... I don't get in much.
    
52.3123POWDML::HANGGELIComing apart at the seamsMon May 13 1996 16:323
    
    {cough}
    
52.3124Real tornado footage is fascinating to watch.SPECXN::CONLONMon May 13 1996 16:357
    We watched a PBS series about the weather last week, and one of the
    segments about tornadoes showed a woman with a flower business (she
    grows some sort of pink flower) whose business was hit by a tornado.
    
    They showed the actual tornado - the bottom of the tornado turned
    PINK itself when it hit her building.  What a wierd sight!
    
52.3125PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon May 13 1996 16:374
  .3124  weird

    hth
52.3126SPECXN::CONLONMon May 13 1996 16:372
    Yeah, it was weird, too!  :)
    
52.3127BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon May 13 1996 16:547
| <<< Note 52.3119 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Being weird isn't enough" >>>


| A movie based on the "Twister" game would be pretty lame, even
| by MY standards.

	What if they were naked?
52.3128BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughMon May 13 1996 16:583
    
    	Depends on who was in it.
    
52.3129BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon May 13 1996 17:003

	In the Depends?
52.3130BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoMon May 13 1996 17:007

	Ok.... if a naked version of the movie Twister came out, who would you
all want to see in it? 


Glen
52.3132BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughMon May 13 1996 17:085
    
    	Glen, we already have a "most boinkable" topic.  I think that
    	most of the names [except for Orson Welles, strangely enough]
    	have already been mentioned there.
    
52.3131POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm here but I'm really goneMon May 13 1996 17:091
    Orson Welles.
52.3133BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughMon May 13 1996 17:115
    
    	RE: Glenn
    
    	Cheater!!  You forgot an "e" and you know it.  8^)
    
52.3134ACISS2::LEECHMon May 13 1996 18:1716
    I rented "To Die For" over the weekend, don't bother with it.  Not my
    cup o' tea, though Nicole Kidman is definitely good eye candy.  This
    movie is a rather dark comedy/drama- more dark and drama than comedy,
    IMO, done in Pulp Fiction style (if my friend's description of this
    movie is accurate- I haven't seen Pulp Fiction yet).
    
    On the slap-stick end of movie rentals, I rented "Major Payne".  If
    you could get past the annoying voice of Damon Williams, it has some
    humorous parts.  Pretty basic stuff, though.  I enjoyed it more than
    the above flick, however.
    
    I think I should have picked up "The Net", rather than "To Die For". 
    Maybe next week.
    
    
    -steve
52.3135CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsMon May 13 1996 18:221
    Uh, I think that's Wayans.  I could be mistaken, but I don't think so.
52.3136ACISS2::LEECHMon May 13 1996 20:401
    Wayans it is.  
52.3137SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 14 1996 12:596
    
    	In the new "Mission Impossible" movie, is it Tom Cruise or Charlie
    Sheen who plays in that?
    
    
    jim
52.3138I think it's TomWAHOO::LEVESQUEexterminatorTue May 14 1996 13:021
    Indeed it is. :-)
52.3139BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue May 14 1996 13:183

	Tom....swoon
52.3140POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm here but I'm really goneTue May 14 1996 13:451
    Who the hell is Tom Swoon?
52.3141BUSY::SLABOUNTYCrazy Cooter comin' atcha!!Tue May 14 1996 14:233
    
    	Charlie Sheen is in, ummm, a different new movie.
    
52.3142SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 14 1996 15:195
    
    
    	thanks for clearing that up Shawn...:)
    
    
52.3143BUSY::SLABOUNTYDILLIGAFTue May 14 1996 15:228
    
    	I was going to post a filmography in the next reply, but I
    	can't get a connection in Netscape so you'll just have to
    	wait.
    
    	I know I posted his filmography somewhere recently, but I
    	forgot where.
    
52.3144TROOA::BUTKOVICHtragically unhipTue May 14 1996 15:321
    you posted it in the tv conference - in the "Friends" note
52.3145Way late in catching up...BSS::DEVEREAUXphreaking the mundaneTue May 14 1996 15:427
    We saw twister last weekend too. I loved it! I'd love to tell you my
    fav part but then that would be a spoiler, so I'll leave it out for
    now. (';
    
    BTW, seems like a lot of good movies coming out soon, like... _The
    Rock_ and _Independence Day_ and others... I guess it's back to a movie
    a week for me (';
52.3146BUSY::SLABOUNTYDILLIGAFTue May 14 1996 15:515
    
    	RE: Chris B.
    
    	In the "Friends" note?  Why would I do that?
    
52.3147GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheTue May 14 1996 15:564
    
    perhaps because charlie sheen was on the show last week????
    
    
52.3148BUSY::SLABOUNTYDILLIGAFTue May 14 1996 15:577
    
    	Oh, it looks like Charlie was a guest star on "Friends" last
    	week.
    
    	But the filmography doesn't seem to list the new movie, but
    	I believe the title is "The A[something]".
    
52.3149DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue May 14 1996 16:513
The Arrival?

Looks like a variation on "Species".
52.3150BUSY::SLABOUNTYDancin' on CoalsTue May 14 1996 16:575
    
    	Yes, thank you!!
    
    	I was so close, wasn't I?  Only missed by 6 letters.  8^)
    
52.3151BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoTue May 14 1996 17:059

	Incase anyone was wondering, tonight is the Dr Who movie on FOX. They
are bringing back the very last Dr. from the tv show to have him regenerate
into the new guy. The effects look pretty good. 



Glen
52.3152CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsTue May 14 1996 17:054
    
    	We saw Copycat over the weekend.  Good VCR movie.
    
    
52.3153CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue May 14 1996 17:074
    Saw Murde in the First over the weekend.  Better than I expected. 
    Kevin Bacon did a great job IMO.  Very powerful.  
    
    Brian 
52.3154GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheTue May 14 1996 17:306
    
    yes, that was a good movie.  i liked it very much.  seemed to 'mean
    more' after visiting alcatraz just a few weeks prior to seeing the
    movie...
    
    
52.3155CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue May 14 1996 17:3615
    
>    yes, that was a good movie.  i liked it very much.  seemed to 'mean
>    more' after visiting alcatraz just a few weeks prior to seeing the
>    movie...
 

    Was that when you said "hi" to my mom?  She still talks about that ;-)




 Jim   
    

52.3156GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheTue May 14 1996 17:416
    
    yep!!!!  
    
    tell her i said hi next time you talk to her...:>
    
    
52.3157CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue May 14 1996 17:5714



 I just talked to her Sunday night, but I'll remember next time!



 She'll be pleased to have heard from you!




 Jim
52.3158?SWAM1::MEUSE_DATue May 14 1996 18:2911
    
    wonder if that f5 twister, could pick up one of the larger
    dinos from Jurassic Park?
    
    fun movie, especially in the 3 row, front and center (all that was
    left).
    
    
    
    
    
52.3159LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthFri May 17 1996 15:587
    i watched the most disturbing movie last night.  it's
    simply called "Kids".  it's about a group of urban teenagers
    as they go about their daily "activities".  
    
    it left me wondering whether this sort of behavior is rare
    or commonplace among teenagers today.  
    
52.3160PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri May 17 1996 16:002
  .3159  i wondered that too, oph.  tres depressing.
52.3161ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsFri May 17 1996 17:122
    
    what type of behavior??? not good I'm sure.
52.3162LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthFri May 17 1996 17:152
    nihilistic, live-for-today, i'm-all-that-matters-the
    -other-person-be-damned type of behavior.
52.3163POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm here but I'm really goneFri May 17 1996 17:204
    I doubt that this is typical. Those are the kids who call the kids in
    the science club `nerds'. They wouldn't do a bit on the straight A
    student nerds who are involved in community service, teach Sunday
    school, take piano, tutor and work with kids in the summer time.
52.3164BSS::PROCTOR_RLarge Dogwood: bough WOW!Fri May 17 1996 17:219
    > nihilistic, live-for-today, i'm-all-that-matters-the
    > -other-person-be-damned type of behavior
    
    even more depressing:
    
    where did these kids GET this behavior model from:
    
    	generationally speaking, I think we boomers ought to 
    	hang our heads in shame...
52.3165LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthFri May 17 1996 17:283
    |I doubt that this is typical.
    
    and glenn, i'm hoping you're right.
52.3166SMURF::WALTERSFri May 17 1996 17:2921
    I've only read about this one, but....
    
    This seems to be another in a series of fly-on-the wall docudramas
    that seem to emerge each generation to tell us that our kids are in a
    downward spiral to antisociety.  Plays right into the hands of
    the societal doom-and-gloom merchants.  The vast majority of kids
    do not indulge in similar behaviour, or thrill-seek on a much lower
    level.  The vast majority kids and have a good sense of right and wrong
    and many of the wild ones tend to grow away from such behaviour.
    
    Tim Roth, one of the recent darlings of Hollywood, got his first break
    playing a sociopathic skinhead in a similar docudrama of the 70's.
    There was another about the Mods and Rockers gangs of the 60's.  A good
    book on this perennial phenomena is "Deviance, Myth and the Media"
    (Can't remember the author.)
    
    IMHO, as always.
    
    Colin
    
                              
52.3167it's going around, I thinkGAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseFri May 17 1996 17:3111
    
      My own observation is that the behavior pattern is a common
     one, and not limited to the city or the disadvantaged.  But
     that certainly isn't scientific - maybe I live in a bad place.
    
      A lot is being written or video documented on this lately.
     Even the New England Journal of Medicine had a piece on what
     it called cross-correlated adolescent risk syndrome, if I
     remember right.
    
      bb
52.3168POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm here but I'm really goneFri May 17 1996 17:314
    Well, there a kids who care and kids who don't. If you want to see kids
    who care, there are plenty of them around if you look in the right
    places. If you're going to look at the shopping mall for a glimpse of
    teenagehood, you're not going to get the full picture.
52.3169D,M&MLANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthFri May 17 1996 17:361
    I will definitely check out this book.
52.3170SMURF::WALTERSFri May 17 1996 17:427
    .3169
    
    Oph, if I remember correctly that book raises some interesting points
    about pre-adult deviance by contrasting the behaviour with that of
    supposedly responsible adults.  Something like the illegal bombing of
    Cambodia set against the hipply lifestyle.  You wonder less where they
    get it from after that.
52.3171You'll love it or hate it or love it and hate it....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftFri May 17 1996 18:1814
    Angels and Insects
    
    Described as "sort of like Sense and Sensibility".  I suppose so -
    IF all you got out of Sense and Sensibility was "nice accents, nice
    costumes."
    
    A movie on several years in the life of a wealthy English family
    during the dawn of the age of science and machine.  And about ants.
    
    Very easy to spend more time discussing the movie than watching it.
    Also quite easy to ask why you bothered.  (Not rated at the Capitol
    Theater in Arlington Mass.)
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3172CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue May 21 1996 16:426
    Went to see Twister last night.  I liked it despite the bad acting, the
    shallow plot, and the overrated special effects reported elsewhere in
    this note.  I found it to be great fun.  Well worth the admission imo. 
    Definitely must be seen in the theater with full sound effects.  
    
    Brian
52.3173SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 21 1996 16:528
    
    
    	Did I hear correctly that a tornado destroyed an outdoor theatre
    in Canada that happened to be showing the movie "Twister" at the time?
    One of the gents in here mentioned it. Seems a little too weird.
    
    
    jim
52.3174Opee? Opey? whateverPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue May 21 1996 17:018
   .3173  so glad you fixed that - the extra "d" was giving me hives. ;>


	The father of one of my roommates recently met Mel Gibson and
	Ron Howard, filming a movie in Haledon, NJ.  He called
	Ron "Opie".  Ron said, "You're dating yourself." ;>

52.3175POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm here but I'm really goneTue May 21 1996 17:061
    Yes, it's true. Somewhere near Orillia.
52.3176TROOA::BUTKOVICHfeelin' diggity dank!'Tue May 21 1996 17:0816
    <----  yes, according to the papers:
    
    "near Thorold, a drive-in movie screen at the Can-View 4 complex was
    uprooted by heavy winds, showering the parking lot with corrugated
    metal.  Naturally, the blockbuster movie 'Twister' was the feature"
    
    There were a number of severe storms in southern Ontario and cottage
    country this weekend.  Funnel clouds were reported in many areas and
    the police said there were distinct paths of destruction.  On guy saw a
    funnel cloud whip across his land and "tear the house off the old,
    solid barn where he stored 20 prized vintage cars - including rare
    Corvettes and a '58 Chevy. It was like 'a freight train going by.  It
    took 30 seconds and that was it,', he said."
    
    Between the storms and the fireworks, I spent most of the weekend
    trying to get Taz to come out from under my bed.  What a baby!
52.3177SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 21 1996 17:0928
    
    
    Canadian News Digest 
    
    Tuesday, May 21
    
    By The Canadian Press
    
    Tornado, severe thunderstorms tear apart homes, overturn cars
    
    HAMILTON (CP)--Homes and barns were torn apart and transport trucks
    destroyed by a tornado during a series of severe thunderstorms that
    ripped through southwestern Ontario on Monday night.
    
    "There was a witness (in St. Catharines) who saw a dark cloud pick up
    debris and another person who saw something come down and take up a
    tree," said Environment Canada spokesman Phil Chadwick.
    
    "That is a tornado!"
    
    He said police in St. Catharines, about 35 kilometres east of Hamilton,
    report "two separate, but distinct, damage paths."
    
    There were no immediate reports of serious injuries, but the
    destruction was widespread.
    
    ___
    
52.3178BUSY::SLABOUNTYForm feed = &lt;ctrl&gt;v &lt;ctrl&gt;lTue May 21 1996 17:105
    
    	RE: .3176
    
    	Did the guy's cars get damaged?
    
52.3179TROOA::BUTKOVICHfeelin' diggity dank!'Tue May 21 1996 17:194
    Shawn - I wondered the same thing.  That's all the paper said.  The
    next paragraph reads "At a farm nearby, two barns housing 30,000 to
    40,000 chickens were ripped apart"   and I was also wondering how the
    chickens were doing...
52.3180WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue May 21 1996 17:445
my wife brought home Jumanji Saturday. i nearly gagged. she 
picked it up because she is a native of Keene, NH where
much of the film was shot.

i ended up liking it. 
52.3181SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 21 1996 17:536
    
    
    	Jumanji! Great movie. I thoroughly enjoyed Robin Williams in that
    role. He was excellent.
    
    	jim
52.3182MROA::YANNEKISTue May 21 1996 19:0010
    
    Rented Waiting to Exhale and Clueless.  We didn't make it through
    Waiting to Exhale with Emmy giving up before I did; given what we had
    read we were quite surprised we didn't like it.  I made it through
    Clueless, barely.  Once agin I fail as the movie selector.  We do much
    better when Emmy picks.
                       
    Greg
                
                                                   
52.3183NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue May 21 1996 19:061
I thought Emmy picks were TV programs.  You should try Oscar picks.  HTH.
52.3184POWDML::HANGGELILittle Chamber of Belgian BurgersTue May 21 1996 19:264
    
    The book "Waiting to Exhale" was much better than the movie, but then
    again, what else is new?
    
52.3185I'm holding my breath...BSS::PROCTOR_RLarge Dogwood: bough WOW!Tue May 21 1996 19:291
    
52.3186CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsTue May 21 1996 19:514
    
    	"Jumanji" is french for "Did you eat yet ?"
    
    
52.3187ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsTue May 21 1996 20:352
    
    <nailing fingers to desk>
52.3188WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed May 22 1996 10:231
eat what?
52.3189BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoWed May 22 1996 12:461
me
52.3190CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsWed May 22 1996 13:234
    
    	Glen, grow up already.
    
    
52.3191BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoWed May 22 1996 13:401
no
52.3192WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed May 22 1996 15:021
ummm, err, i brought my lunch. thanks anyway Glen.
52.3193mission:biggest release everSWAM1::MEUSE_DAWed May 22 1996 17:187
    
    On my way to work, noticed that one of the local  theater's marquee
    read " Mission Impossible on All Seven Screens".
    
    That's it, no other films being shown
    
    
52.3194SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed May 22 1996 17:229
    
    
    	Oh, I finally figured out where I saw Charlie Sheen in a movie
    preview. It's one where he figures out there are aliens on earth with
    some dastardly plot against humanity. Wish I could remember the dang
    title...
    
    
    
52.3195BUSY::SLABOUNTYAct like you own the companyWed May 22 1996 17:453
    
    	"The Arrival".
    
52.3196JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed May 22 1996 17:561
    When did MI come out?
52.3197BUSY::SLABOUNTYAct like you own the companyWed May 22 1996 17:595
    
    	Starts today, if I'm not mistaken.
    
    	However, if I am mistaken, then it doesn't start today.
    
52.3198SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed May 22 1996 18:015
    
    
    	re: The Arrival
    
    	thanks Shawn!
52.3199NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed May 22 1996 18:083
>    When did MI come out?

The entire state is gay?
52.3200ACISS2::LEECHWed May 22 1996 18:099
    
			  (__)
                          DUH!
                   /-------\/ 
                  / |     || \ 
                 *  ||W---|| Movie SNARF! 
                    ~~    ~~  

    
52.3202Not-real software, according to Phil HaysSMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatWed May 22 1996 19:324
    Computer graphics in Mission Impossible, like the 747 at the end, and
    the knife, were done on a Mac.  Tom Cruise uses a PowerBook in the
    film, and you can enter a sweepstakes to win that actual PowerBook by
    visiting <http://www.mission.apple.com/>
52.3203ROWLET::AINSLEYDCU Board of Directors CandidateWed May 22 1996 19:477
    Wouldn't it be better to win a new one, rather than one that is in an
    unknown state?
    
    Of course, I'd expect to do something with it rather than have it as a
    conversation piece.
    
    Bob
52.3204BSS::PROCTOR_RLarge Dogwood: bough WOW!Wed May 22 1996 19:527
    > 52.3203 by ROWLET::AINSLEY
    
    >  Of course, I'd expect to do something with it rather than have it as
    >  a conversation piece.
    
    
    Well then, you certainly don't want a PowerBook, do you?
52.3205BUSY::SLABOUNTYAntisocialWed May 22 1996 20:096
    
    	20+ people were thinking the same thing, and Bob scoops them
    	all.
    
    	8^)
    
52.3206SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatWed May 22 1996 20:1317
    .3203
    
    Unknown state?  Such as "How do I issue an orderly shutdown to my
    computer in one easy step?"  Hint:  Can't be done unless your computer
    is a Macintosh.
    
    Unknown state?  Such as "What's the easiest way to connect to the
    Internet?"  Hint:  Average time from start of project to browsing Web
    pages is 15 minutes on a Mac, more than an hour on a PC.
    
    Unknown state?  Such as "How can I simply take a computer out of the
    box and install a game on it and expect it to work right the first
    time?"  Hint:  On a Mac there are no IRQs to configure, no PDF files or
    associations to create, no different sound card standards to worry
    about, no hassles about video resolution or color depth.
    
    You should be more careful about giving me such good openings.
52.3207NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed May 22 1996 20:155
Unknown state?



It's prolly in California.
52.3208RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Wed May 22 1996 20:2023
    Re .3206:
    
    > Unknown state?  Such as "How do I issue an orderly shutdown to my
    > computer in one easy step?"  Hint:  Can't be done unless your computer
    > is a Macintosh.

    Can't?  Can't?  It works on my system -- not a Mac -- in one easy step. 
    Just pull the plug.  The system will then display a message that power
    has failed.  After a while, it will close all Windows applications and
    then terminate Windows.  Then it will copy some files to RAM disk,
    stop a TSR, and flush the disk cache.  Then it pauses to let the drives
    quiesce.  Then it turns off the battery power.
    
    On the other hand, there was a report, in the Risks Digest I believe,
    of a Macintosh that displayed a message that it was okay to turn off
    the system -- but the user could still hear disk drive activity.
    
    
    				-- edp
    
    
Public key fingerprint:  8e ad 63 61 ba 0c 26 86  32 0a 7d 28 db e7 6f 75
To find PGP, read note 2688.4 in Humane::IBMPC_Shareware.
52.3209ROWLET::AINSLEYDCU Board of Directors CandidateWed May 22 1996 20:2117
    re: .3206
    
    Dick, what I'm saying is that the winner is geting a used machine.  If
    it was treated by the actors/crew as just another prop, was it dropped,
    thrown around, had stuff spilled on it, etc?  Did people think the
    trash can was cute and start putting all sorts of files in it, not
    worrying about what those files may be?  Perhaps it still boots and
    runs whatever software was needed for the movie, but is missing
    software needed to work in the real world.
    
    I guess I'm saying I don't think I'd bother to register to win any used
    computer regardless of who may have touched it.  If they were offering
    to send me a new one, I'd consider it, although I'd probably answer
    some of their registration questions untruthfully simply because I
    don't believe it's any of their business.
    
    Bob
52.3210BUSY::SLABOUNTYAntisocialWed May 22 1996 20:236
    
    	If Tom Cruise touched it, a fan with more brains than money
    	would be willing to give you 5X its new value.  Then you can
    	take that money, buy an Intel-based PC and software, and still
    	be ahead by a longshot.
    
52.3211SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed May 22 1996 20:483
    
    
    	do you mean "more money than brains" Shawn?
52.3212SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatWed May 22 1996 20:525
    .3208
    
    A power crash is not an orderly shutdown, and the fact that your
    particular hardware is sophisticated enough to handle it in an orderly
    manner does not qualify it as one.
52.3213won't be long nowPCBUOA::KRATZWed May 22 1996 21:123
    Apple's almost out of cash... down to $170m; or about a quarter's
    worth at current rate of spending.  Nobody (IBM, Motorola, Fujitsu)
    seems to be lining up to help either.
52.3214BSS::PROCTOR_RLarge Dogwood: bough WOW!Wed May 22 1996 21:155
    re; .-1
    I thought IBM lined up to help out by "putting MacClones on the street"
    
    oddly, however they apparently were goin to sublicense the whole
    affair out to some other mfgr????? I don't remember the details...
52.3215SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed May 22 1996 21:306
    
    re: .3212
    
    	<rouses his trench partner. The shelling has started again>
    
    
52.3216TROOA::BUTKOVICHfeelin' diggity dank!'Wed May 22 1996 21:461
    <knits socks for "our boys" - it's gonna be a long, cold winter>
52.3217BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Wed May 22 1996 22:045
    
    	RE: .3211
    
    	Why, yes, I believe I did.
    
52.3218THEMAX::SMITH_SWed May 22 1996 23:073
    re .3192
    
    Glen, you sure are an ornery fella/fellette.
52.3219BIGQ::SILVAMr. LogoThu May 23 1996 11:092
	Fellette??? Is the the efeminate version of someone who fell?
52.3220NPSS::MLEVESQUEThu May 23 1996 12:161
    Sounds more like the past tense of the verb fellate.
52.3221SMURF::WALTERSThu May 23 1996 12:261
    <Tommy back in with the doughboy>
52.3222RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu May 23 1996 12:3617
    Re .3212:
    
    > A power crash is not an orderly shutdown, . . .
    
    a) A utility power failure is not pleasant, but a deliberate (and hence
    controlled) pulling of the plug is quite orderly.
    
    b) That the sequence of events occurs proves it can occur.  It could
    just as easily be triggered by a software action or an X-10 command or
    a message sent by modem or network or a timer.
    
    
    				-- edp
    
    
Public key fingerprint:  8e ad 63 61 ba 0c 26 86  32 0a 7d 28 db e7 6f 75
To find PGP, read note 2688.4 in Humane::IBMPC_Shareware.
52.3223Maybe this is a TTWAPERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftThu May 23 1996 12:404
    
    Are there any "movies, people, movies" people?
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3224SMURF::WALTERSThu May 23 1996 12:452
    <Fixes bayonet to trusty Lee-Enfield .303.  Prepares to push invaders
    back to "HOME COMPUTING" note.  Follows Sgt. Sadin into no mans land.>
52.3225NPSS::MLEVESQUEThu May 23 1996 12:4812
    Over the weekend saw "An American President". Fairly amusing, even if
    the politics were a bit nauseating. A definite rah, rah! for
    liberalism. Betsy thought Michael Douglas was miscast, but I found him
    to be fine. 
    
    Also saw "Bye, Bye Love" a comedy with pretenses to drama, based on the
    lives of three divorced fathers and their interactions with their
    kids, ex-wives and each other. It was fairly cute, but tried also to
    make a few points about relationships and family. Not bad.
    
    Neither really grabbed me as being special, but they were both well
    into the tolerable range.
52.3226ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsThu May 23 1996 12:582
    
    <---- Ebert has spoken.
52.3227ACISS2::LEECHThu May 23 1996 13:0525
    re: .3206
    
>    Unknown state?  Such as "How can I simply take a computer out of the
>    box and install a game on it and expect it to work right the first
>    time?"  Hint:  On a Mac there are no IRQs to configure, no PDF files or
>    associations to create, no different sound card standards to worry
>    about, no hassles about video resolution or color depth.
 
    You entered this for my benefit, didn't you?  Sensing a moment of
    doubt, you strike with ruthless efficiency at my weak-spot, hoping to
    Mac-convert me.  
    
    No IRQ settings?  No PDF files?  No different sound card standards?
    
    <gritting teeth to hang on, but my faith in PCs wavers nonetheless>  
    
    
    8^)
    
    
    
    [The sound card problem may be fixed in a couple of weeks, but if the
    video still geeks on me, I'm likely to convert to a Mac, assuming that
    all these problems will be alleviated by doing so.  I'm not as
    close-minded as many in here would like to believe.  8^) ]
52.3228SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatThu May 23 1996 13:0726
    .3213
    
    > Apple's almost out of cash... down to $170m
    
    Horsepuckey.
    
    I'd like to know where everyone was when Zenith hemorraged hundreds of
    millions recently.  Or where everyone was when Packard Bell came with
    in a vew hundred thousand bucks of filing for backruptcy TWICE in the
    past two years.  Apple is the company everyone loves to hate.  Sure,
    they've been cocky.  Sure, they're being humbled.  But they're not
    going away.  No company that takes in over a billion dillars a MONTH on
    its hardware is going to fold.
    
    The lies about software companies discontinuing Mac products are just
    that.  At Apple's recent Worldwide Developers conference, over 30
    percent of the attendees were from companies that had never attended
    before.  The rate of new registrations in Apple's developer support
    programs is up 8 percent since last year.  Of the software companies
    polled last year, 54 percent were in the Mac business.  This year, that
    number is 65 percent.  There are over 900 Mac-only software packages,
    and there are over 800 cross- platform packages that were released for
    the Mac first.  18 percent of all revenues for personal-computer
    software are from Mac products despite the Mac platform's 9-10 percent
    market share, because Mac users buy twice as much software per machine. 
    And contrary to another lie, Mac software doesn't always cost more.
52.3229ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsThu May 23 1996 13:162
    
    Intel and Microsoft rule the computer world. get used to it.
52.3230SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatThu May 23 1996 13:1936
    .3227
    
    > You entered this for my benefit, didn't you?
    
    No, actually, I didn't.  But if the foo...
    
    > No IRQ settings?
    
    No.  The MacOS automatically configures its interrupt and DMA
    sybsystems at boot time, linking drivers and other extensions into the
    system without your assistance.  There are no DIP switches, either.
    
    > No PDF files?
    
    No.  There's no need for them because all Mac applications are created
    equal.  No DOS boxes, no PDF files.  No associating programs into
    groups.  No icons that are nothing more than an icon file - none of the
    Windows problem where trashing the icon leaves the referent file
    intact.  No headaches trying to uninstall a program - hence no need for
    Uninstaller or others like it.
    
    > No different sound card standards?
    
    No.  Macs come with built-in sound.  Most models these days have 16-bit
    CD-quality stereo output, and many have 16-bit CD-quality stereo input
    as well.  Low-line models lacking the 16-bit stuff still have 8-bit
    stereo in/out.  All Mac programs use the Mac's built-in 32-oscillator/
    32-filter/4-channel Ensoniq sound hardware.  No different sound cards
    needed.
    
    Macs can also use any PC-compatible multiscan monitor, and they can
    switch resolution and color depth on the fly.  The usual behavior for
    game programs requiring a color depth different from what you've got
    set is for the game to change it automatically on startup and restore
    it on exit - some games ask you if it's okay to change it, and will
    exit if you say no.
52.3231SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatThu May 23 1996 13:205
    .3229
    
    Most car manufacturers would KILL for a market share as big as Apple's. 
    The smallest 16 car companies selling in the USA have a COMBINED market
    share less than that.
52.3232ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsThu May 23 1996 13:293
    
    on the other hand Microsoft and Intel own 80+% of their repected
    niches. They didn't get to be that big by having inferior products.
52.3233SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatThu May 23 1996 13:316
    .3232
    
    Does Gresham's Law mean anything to you?
    
    Hitler got to be the master of Germany - does that mean Nazism is
    superior to freedom?
52.3234ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsThu May 23 1996 13:333
    
    um, Dick. I hardly think Intel and Microsoft can be compared to 
    Hitler or Nazism. They are both good quality companies.
52.3235NPSS::MLEVESQUEThu May 23 1996 13:345
    >No company that takes in over a billion dillars a MONTH on
    >its hardware is going to fold.
     
     No, they just move to the planet Dilmerack, where the dillar is the
    standard unit of currency. 8^)
52.3236You *were* making a joke, weren't you?SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatThu May 23 1996 13:4413
    .3234
    
    > Intel and Microsoft ... are both good quality companies.
    
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!  <gasp>
    
    Microsoft, despite Bill Gates' on-air claims, is *famous* for the
    bloated size, poor relative performance, confusing interface, general
    lack of user-friendliness, and bugginess of its software.  With Word 6,
    Microsoft has gone the Borg route, making the Mac version look just
    like the PeeCee version and, in so doing, throwing away about a dozen
    features from Word 5.1 that were productive and made the program easier
    to work with.
52.3237ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsThu May 23 1996 13:473
    
    well, I *like* Microsoft's products tyvm. oh, and I'd rather own
    stock in Microsoft than Apple. Microsoft rules.
52.3238CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu May 23 1996 14:035
    Movies, people! Movies!  
    
    And on that note, I rented Copycat last night.  Always liked Sigourney
    Weaver.  It was entertaining but there was no edge of the seat
    suspense.  Glad I rented versus seeing inthe theater.   
52.3239SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatThu May 23 1996 14:134
    > entertaining but there was no edge of the seat suspense
    
    Sometimes the best part of a movie is knowing exactly what's going to
    happen, but waiting to see how the characters work the situation out.
52.3240TROOA::BUTKOVICHQuando omni flunkus moritatiThu May 23 1996 14:253
    Copycat - is that the movie with Harry Connick Jr?  If so, I remember
    thinking that I wanted to see it, but never got around to it.  Harry
    was good in "Memphis Belle".
52.3241CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu May 23 1996 14:281
    Yep.  He made a convincing psycho imo.  
52.3242JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu May 23 1996 15:451
    It's the MOVIE NOTE, IT'S the MOVIE NOTE! :-)
52.3243ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsThu May 23 1996 15:532
    
    <---- so, what's your point?
52.3244ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsThu May 23 1996 15:553
    
    saw a great movie today. "Return of the Macintosh-who got crushed by
    an open Windows"
52.3245SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatThu May 23 1996 16:073
    > open Windows
    
    Now *that* is a real hoot!
52.3246?SWAM1::MEUSE_DAThu May 23 1996 16:464
    
    Is "Flipper" dead yet?
    
    
52.3247CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu May 23 1996 16:491
    UUUuuuurrrrrpppppP!  Yes, delicious too.
52.3248BULEAN::BANKSThu May 23 1996 17:123
Yah, I think I found a piece of him caught in my tuna sandwich today.

YUM!
52.3249SMURF::WALTERSThu May 23 1996 17:131
    The bum'll be tuna.
52.3250only takes 10 minutesSWAM1::MEUSE_DAThu May 23 1996 18:205
    
    "Flipper Helper"- comes in a box, mix up with the noodles & cheese
    sauce.
    
    
52.3251DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Fri May 24 1996 15:395
>    on the other hand Microsoft and Intel own 80+% of their repected
>    niches. They didn't get to be that big by having inferior products.

Yes they did.
52.3252LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthFri May 24 1996 15:412
    "to die for" was uproariously funny.  that kidman
    gal was something else.
52.3253POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm here but I'm really goneFri May 24 1996 17:213
    Really?
    
    I rented A Few Good Men. I was surprised at how good it was.
52.3254POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm here but I'm really goneFri May 24 1996 17:221
    You can make you own jokes now.
52.3255;)LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthFri May 24 1996 18:091
    the truth?!  you can't handle the truth!!!
52.3256ACISS2::LEECHFri May 24 1996 19:283
    Nicole Kidman did do a very good job of acting in "To Die For".  She
    played a perfect barbie doll, psychotic ditz.  The movie itself didn't
    do much for me, though. 
52.3257CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowSun May 26 1996 03:3315


 I saw "Spy Hard" today..while it had a couple funny moments, I found
 myself waiting for *something* real funny to happen.  I was afraid
 this would be one of those movies where the trailers show all the 
 funny parts..unfortunately, I wasn't too far wrong.


 I think they keep trying to make another "Airplane!"..and it just
 ain't gonna happen.



 Jim
52.3258still alive trench partner?SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun May 26 1996 23:033
    
    
    <sgt. sadin peers through the gloom wondering if it's really over>
52.3259USAT05::HALLRGod loves even you!Mon May 27 1996 11:355
    saw Butcher's Wife and Twister...Demi Moore was surprising as a blonde
    but her accent stunk and the movie sucked when they pictured Cape
    Lookout Lighthouse and called it Ocacroke Lighthouse...
    
    Twister, great action and graphics, typical storyline...
52.3260SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatTue May 28 1996 14:597
    Rented Nine Months and The Net over the w/e.
    
    Nine Months is a hoot.
    
    The Net is so hokey that it wasn't even funny.  And the plot twists are
    so obvious that even if they weren't being telegraphed, a four-year-old
    would be able to figure it out.
52.3261SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove jerksTue May 28 1996 15:016
    
    
    Rented "Money Train" over the weekend...
    
    
    Don't bother...
52.3262SUBSYS::NEUMYERYour memory still hangin roundTue May 28 1996 15:066
    
       re 3261
    
    	You mean you didn't like Robert Blake's performance?
    
    ed
52.3263SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 28 1996 15:087
    
    
    	re: money train
    
    	agreed. it sucked.
    
    
52.3264SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove jerksTue May 28 1996 15:082
    
    The whole thing stunk...
52.3265SMURF::WALTERSTue May 28 1996 15:0911
    
    Clockers, A Spike Lee film.  It will take months for me to completely
    assimilate this movie into my psyche to the point that I can say
    anything halfway sensible about it.  Spike Lee manages to convey more
    antiviolence in a few opening scenes than the makers of Pulp Fiction
    managed to do in the entire 25 minutes that stomached of the latter.
    Keitel is great.   The photography is edgy, surreal and spare.  One
    shot is nothing short of brilliant.  The dialog reminds me of the first
    time you see Shakespeare, the way the Elizabethan English unwinds is
    similar to the street patois of the young gangstas.  The music is
    very cleverly interwoven.  See it now.
52.3266SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 28 1996 15:166
    
    
    	I've been wondering if I should bother seeing that movie. I'll
    definitely rent it now. Thanks for the note.
    
    jim
52.3267PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue May 28 1996 15:5010
>                     <<< Note 52.3265 by SMURF::WALTERS >>>

>  See it now.

	I already saw it.  What a quandary.

	Agree that it was well done.  Keitel is almost always great
	anyways.


52.3268CNTROL::JENNISONCrown Him with many crownsTue May 28 1996 17:126
    
    	Nine months was a hoot ?
    
    	blech!  
    
    
52.3269I Liked The Net!!!STRATA::BARBIERITue May 28 1996 21:1511
      I thought nine months was very mediocre.
    
      And I really liked 'The Net'???  Oh well Binder, I guess we
      are all unique human beings.
    
      Clockers now has me intrigued.  I'll have to see it.
    
      Meanwhile, a friend at work mentioned 'The Usual Suspects' as
      being a really good film.  Anyone seen it?  What did you think?
    
    						Tony
52.3270SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 28 1996 21:276
    
    
    	"The Usual Suspects" was a good movie IMO. Well worth the looksee.
    
    
    jim
52.3271Foist KnightSMURF::WALTERSWed May 29 1996 12:5214
    "First Knight" Richard Gere, Sean Connery, cute lady, bad villan.  Only
    rented this because it was on a list of movies partly made on location
    in Wales.  Gere's swashbuckling Lancelot, positively dripping with
    knightly chivalry, was great fun.  The rest of the movie veered so far
    from the Arthurian legend that it was almost painful - especially the
    adoption of the Celtic cross as Arthur's banner over the traditional
    Red Dragon.  Ben Cross was a malignant and plausible Malagant, although
    Malagant has something of a bit part in the Legend, compared to
    Arthur's bastard son Mordred, so I don't know why they focused on him.
    Arthur (Connery) was disappointing, but his Gwenhwyfar was well worth
    swashing a buckle for.  Nice scenery, good diversion.
    
    
                                 
52.3272ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsWed May 29 1996 13:152
    
    <--- i concur.
52.3273POLAR::RICHARDSONKinda rotten and insaneWed May 29 1996 13:201
    Not only that, he agrees with you too!
52.3274BSS::PROCTOR_RLittle Chamber FroggieWed May 29 1996 13:221
    I concur.
52.3275BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Wed May 29 1996 14:517
Nine months is a bore outside of few scenes. In particular, I really enjoyed
the fight with the dragon in the toy store  :-)

Otherwise, it was difficult to stay awake through many sections on the movie.

Doug
52.3276PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed May 29 1996 15:065
   very convincing kiss in that movie.  

   er, "First Knight", that is.

52.3277LANDO::OLIVER_Bmay, the comeliest monthWed May 29 1996 15:231
    she said, tongue-in-cheek.
52.3278.SWAM1::MEUSE_DAWed May 29 1996 18:1010
    
    rented "Cutthroat Island"- just to see why it bombed at the theaters.
                               I now understand. 
    
    rented "An American Presdent' - a lot better than I expected.Worth
                                   the rental price.
    
    
    
    
52.3279ACISS2::LEECHWed May 29 1996 18:183
    I believe Julia Ormond is the actress who plays the lady worth swashing
    a buckle for.  8^)  (unless I'm thinking of another movie...I always
    get these things confused  8^) )
52.3280SNAX::BOURGOINEWed May 29 1996 18:376

	Saw "The Craft" over the weekend  - PLUUUEEESSSEE!
	What a stupid movie!

	Can't wait to see "The Arrival"  
52.3281BUSY::SLABOUNTYConsume feces and expire.Wed May 29 1996 18:408
    
    >	Saw "The Craft" over the weekend  - PLUUUEEESSSEE!
    
    
    	Ummm, that should be
    
    	PUHHLEEEZE!
    
52.3282POLAR::RICHARDSONKinda rotten and insaneWed May 29 1996 18:401
    Pat, have you ever watched "The Hitchhiker"?
52.3283SNAX::BOURGOINEWed May 29 1996 18:429
>>    Pat, have you ever watched "The Hitchhiker"?

	No, but I've read all the books!!!  I always thought
	Dent, Arthur Dent was the best...

	:-)

Pat

52.3284CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed May 29 1996 18:445
    Watched Get Shorty last night.  I thought it dragged in parts but it
    was enjoyable.  Did not care for Gene Hackman's role but found John
    Travolta to be good in his.  
    
    Brian  
52.3285ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsWed May 29 1996 18:543
    
    Steve, yes Julia Ormond is the one in "First Knight". She belongs in
    topic 81.
52.3286NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed May 29 1996 19:314
>    rented "An American Presdent' - a lot better than I expected.Worth
>                                   the rental price.
    
Who came up with that title, Bob Dole?
52.3287POLAR::RICHARDSONKinda rotten and insaneWed May 29 1996 19:341
    He should have pre-read his preamble.
52.3288BIGQ::SILVABoston Gay Pride, June 8Wed May 29 1996 19:371
precisely
52.3289SMURF::WALTERSWed May 29 1996 20:153
    
    That's it - Julia Ormond.  Thanks for the reminder.  A very comely
    lady.  
52.3290ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsWed May 29 1996 20:162
    
    you are all string along this pun precariously.
52.3291MFGFIN::VASQUEZWed May 29 1996 21:343
      I rather enjoyed Cuttthroat Island. It was a great pirate film which
    I haven't seen in many years.
    
52.3292SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatThu May 30 1996 15:275
    Went out to the Wilton Town Hall Cinema last night to see Restoration. 
    Gorgeous costumes and sets, interesting story, rather enjoyable film
    all in all.  Cast includes Robert Downey Jnr, Sam Neill, a phenomenal
    looker whose name I didn't catch, Meg Ryan, Ian McKellen, and Hugh
    Grant.
52.3293BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't get even ... get odd!!Thu May 30 1996 15:4260
                             Restoration (1995)

        In a world of seduction and power, temptation has its price.

                              USA 1995 Color

                             8.6/10 (30 votes)

Produced by: Miramax Films / Miramax Films (distributor)
Sound Mix: Dolby Stereo
Certification: USA:R
MPAA reasons: Rated R for sexuality.
Runtime: USA:117

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Directed by
     Michael Hoffman

Cast (in credits order)
     Robert Downey Jr. .... Robert Merivel
     Sam Neill .... King Charles II
     David Thewlis .... John Pearce
     Polly Walker .... Celia Clemence
     Meg Ryan .... Katherine
     Ian McKellen .... Will Gates
     Hugh Grant .... Elias Finn
     Hugh McDiarmid .... Ambrose
     Mary MacLeod .... Midwife
     Mark Letheren .... Daniel

Written by
     Rose Tremain (novel)
     Rupert Walters

Cinematography by
     Oliver Stapleton

Music by
     James Newton Howard

Production Design by
     Eugenio Zanetti (AA)

Costume Design by
     James Acheson (AA)

Film Editing by
     Garth Craven

Produced by
     Sarah Black
     Cary Brokaw
     Andrew Paterson

Other crew
     Simon Kaye (sound)
     Andy Long (best boy)

52.3294SMURF::WALTERSThu May 30 1996 16:502
    Part of Restoration was filmed in my tiny ol' home town.  The bit set
    in the port, where the ship was set ablaze.    
52.3295CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowSun Jun 02 1996 01:255



 Saw Twister again today...the special effects still blew me away.
52.3296TINCUP::AGUEhttp://www.usa.net/~agueMon Jun 03 1996 03:404
    We saw "The Arrival" over the weekend.  A good "aliens invading earth"
    movie that had our stomachs in knots from the tension.
    
    -- Jim
52.3297maybe i'm amazedPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jun 03 1996 12:427
	Saw "Get Shorty".  Wow - what a cruddy movie, I thought.
	I just couldn't get into it at all and didn't think it was
	funny.  It ended just as I was about to turn it off. 8-[

	I liked the score by John Lurie, though.
	
52.3298SMURF::WALTERSMon Jun 03 1996 13:251
    Finally saw Braefart.  Nae bad.
52.3299GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheMon Jun 03 1996 15:356
    
    finally saw 'the birdcage' over the weekend.  i found it more amusing
    than my beau, but i think that was because i have more 'inside info' on
    the subject matter than he does.
    
    nathan lane was great.  so was hank azaria.  
52.3300BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Parting Shot in the DarkMon Jun 03 1996 15:365
    
    	So your beau is pretty funny, but he's not as funny as "The
    	Birdcage"  If that's true he probably doesn't even come close
    	to comparing to "Airplane!".
    	
52.3301SMURF::WALTERSMon Jun 03 1996 15:401
    <- beau jest? 
52.3302ACISS2::LEECHMon Jun 03 1996 18:0027
    Saw _Dragon Heart_ Saturday night.  Not a bad movie, though the plot
    certainly played second fiddle to the rendering of Draco.  Absolutely
    amazing special effects dragon- very life-like indeed.
    
    This movie was starved for character development, however.  The heroine
    (the best movie red-head I've seen in a while, a 9.5 on Steve's
    red-head scale of comeliness  8^) ) was too much a cardboard cut-out of
    the standard female lead.  The villian was not much better, not much
    development or background, IMO.  Both characters could have been developed 
    very well with just a bit of effort, IMO.   
    
    The interaction of the knight and Draco (the dragon) were comical at
    times, and is what made the movie worth seeing.  
    
    I liked the movie, but came out feeling like there was a lot more they
    could have done with it... I felt like there was too much
    story missing.  Most of the characters just hopped along predictably with
    standardized motivation, with little to make you really care about them
    (outside of the basic "good and evil" theme).  
    
    If you liked T-Rex in Jerassic Park, you will love Draco.  The movie is
    worth seeing just to watch the dragon, who is not just a well-done movie 
    monster, but one with a lot of character (and the voice of Sean
    Connery).
    
    
    -steve                       
52.3303EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairMon Jun 03 1996 18:045
    > Absolutely amazing special effects dragon- very life-like indeed.
    
    Very life-like ? So you're married too ?
    
    ;^)
52.3304ACISS2::LEECHMon Jun 03 1996 18:153
    <-- I wouldn't mind being married to that red-head.  8^)  I must find
    the appropriate topic for her name...when I figure out what her name
    is.  
52.3305ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon Jun 03 1996 18:262
    
    <---- topic 81, perhaps?
52.3306ACISS2::LEECHMon Jun 03 1996 18:342
    Yeah, that's the one.  Though I am careful to mention marriage first. 
    8^)  Now, the hard part is convincing her to marry me.  8^)
52.3307ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon Jun 03 1996 18:424
    
    .3306
    
    just tell her you are a "bowling machine", should work.
52.3308good idea, though 8^)ACISS2::LEECHMon Jun 03 1996 19:503
    Alas...twould be a lie, though, and I am honor-bound to be truthful to
    my future spouse.  Bob, our anchor-man, is a bowling machine.  I am no
    bowling machine, nor do I play one on tv.
52.3309EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairMon Jun 03 1996 19:521
    Nope, you're just a leech.
52.3310ACISS2::LEECHMon Jun 03 1996 19:571
    <snif>
52.3311BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Parting Shot in the DarkMon Jun 03 1996 20:424
    
    	Please, don't do it yourself ... allow ME to look up the cast
    	list of "Dragonheart" for you.
    
52.3312BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Parting Shot in the DarkMon Jun 03 1996 20:445
    
    	Julie Christie, I believe.
    
    	Dina Meyer played Kara, in case it's her instead.
    
52.3313ACISS2::LEECHMon Jun 03 1996 21:073
    I think her character's name was Kara, but I forget.  I'm visual
    person mainly, names seem to get forgotten at my eyes bug and my jaw
    drops.  8^) 
52.3314TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhen all else fails, play dead!Mon Jun 03 1996 22:2613
    I saw a beautifully shot movie last night - "The Horseman on the Roof",
    which is a pretty stupid title, but maybe it's a poor translation. (aka
    Le Hussard sue le Toit).
     
    The film is French with subtitles and takes place in Provence.  It's a
    period piece - forget the year, but just after Napoleon - and stars
    Juliet Binoche and a gorgeous Olivier Martinez (most definitely
    boinkable) Story involves an Italian officer who is fleeing across
    France because he is being chased down by Austrian overlords in Italy.
    Trouble is, most of France has been hit with some kind of deadly
    plague.  Gorgeous scenery and if you like a big, lush period piece of a
    romance, you'll probably like this one.  The ending was a bit
    disappointing - I wonder if they ran out of money.
52.3315NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jun 04 1996 14:434
>    	Julie Christie, I believe.

Julie must be pretty long in the tooth by now.  She was an attractive older
woman when I was a lad.
52.3316BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Parting Shot in the DarkTue Jun 04 1996 14:583
    
    	So I guess it was the other female I mentioned.
    
52.3317ACISS2::LEECHTue Jun 04 1996 17:283
    I was right!  Her character's name was Kara.  
    
    I'm getting better at this name-remembering thing.
52.3318ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsTue Jun 04 1996 18:266
    
    shawn, can you pull up a list of Donna Summer's movies for me??
    shouldn't be that hard. a friend is going nuts trying to figure out
    a movie name she was in.
    
    Thanks
52.3319BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Parting Shot in the DarkTue Jun 04 1996 20:167
    
    	My only guess would be "Thank God It's Friday" ... I've never
    	seen it, but for some reason I thought I remembered her name
    	being associated with that movie.
    
    	I'll see if I can get a list.
    
52.3320BUSY::SLABOUNTYA seemingly endless timeTue Jun 04 1996 21:0550
    
    	You know, I am so FULL of useless information that sometimes
    	even I amaze myself.
    
    	"Thank God It's Friday" it was:
    
    
                       Thank God, It's Friday (1978)

                              USA 1978 Color

                             4.2/10 (19 votes)

Genre(s)/keyword(s): Comedy / disco / music
Language(s): English
Certification: USA:PG

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Directed by
     Robert Klane

Cast (in alphabetical order)
    
     Jeff Goldblum .... Tony Di Marco
     Andrea Howard .... Sue
     Paul Jabara
     Valerie Landsburg .... Frannie
     Mark Lonow .... Dave
     Terri Nunn .... Jeannie
     Donna Summer .... Nicole Sims
     Chick Vennera .... Marv Gomez
     Ray Vitte .... Bbby Speed
     Debra Winger .... Jennifer

Written by
     Barry Armyan Bernstein

Cinematography by
     James Crabe

Music by
     Paul Jabara (BS:AA)

Film Editing by
     Richard Halsey

Produced by
     Rob Cohen
    
52.3321ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsWed Jun 05 1996 12:512
    
    <---- thanks, that was it.
52.3322PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jun 05 1996 13:0012
   Leaving Las Vegas - nice little pick-me-up movie.  Some impressive
   acting by Elisabeth Shue.

   Nick of Time - kind of an intriguing premise and maybe the first
   movie I've seen that's happening real-time; can't think of any others.
   Walken is his usual menacing self.  Depp could have been just about
   anybody, I thought.  I liked it.

   Grumpier Old Men - Walter Matthau is _such_ a gem.  I am wichoo, Oph.
   He just has to walk into the room and it's funny.
  
52.3323CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Jun 05 1996 14:129
    To die for, could have passed on this one.  The narrative style, the 
    rehash of the Pam Smart storyline, were all just mediocre.  Should have 
    passed on this one.
    
    Last of the Dogmen, surprise find.  Good story line IMO, always liked
    Tom Beringer and Barbara Hershey anyway.  It was a good watch.  
    
    Tremors II - Some humorous moments but Kevin Bacon made the first one IMO.  
    They should have stopped at Tremors I.  
52.3324NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jun 05 1996 14:141
Ms. Smart and her friends spell it "Pame" for some reason.
52.3325SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Jun 05 1996 14:2611
    
    
    	re: Tremors II
    
    	The part where he shoots one of the ugly little buggers with the
    .50BMG is hilarious. The round goes through a cement wall, five our six
    50gal drums, and through the engine block of the truck they were trying
    to get to. :*)
    
    
    
52.3326SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatWed Jun 05 1996 14:2711
52.3327SMURF::WALTERSWed Jun 05 1996 17:242
    The moral is; you can't choose your own handle.
    
52.3328ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsWed Jun 05 1996 18:242
    
    <--- get a grip.
52.3329TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhen all else fails, play dead!Wed Jun 05 1996 18:303
    I saw "The Birdcage" last night.  While Nathan Lane and Robin Williams
    were both very good, I'd have to say that Hank Azzaria (sp?) stole
    their thunder - what a hoot!
52.3330it really suckedSWAM1::MEUSE_DAWed Jun 05 1996 18:409
    
    rented "Ready to Wear" for the low price of 39 cents.
    
    watched about half, and tried to only pay 20 cents upon return.
    it didn't work.
    
    what a piece of boring garbage.
    
    
52.3331BUSY::SLABOUNTYBasket CaseWed Jun 05 1996 18:433
52.3332USAT02::HALLRGod loves even you!Wed Jun 05 1996 18:435
    Dave:
    
    u certainly in a good mood today :-)
    
    go watch twister...not for the story but the effects...wow!
52.3333then again, I'm not a Carrey fanCSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowWed Jun 05 1996 18:4612


  The effects are great, that's for sure.


 I saw a trailer for Jim Carrey's new movie last night.  I can't believe
 they paid the guy $20million..



 Jim
52.3334i am in a good mood damn itSWAM1::MEUSE_DAWed Jun 05 1996 18:536
    
    Ron-
    
    I did that already.
    Waiting for "The Rock" to hit the theaters.
    
52.3335USAT02::HALLRGod loves even you!Wed Jun 05 1996 19:062
    yep, i already told the wif that the first rainy day on vacation i was
    going tto see the Rock!
52.3336ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsWed Jun 05 1996 20:102
    
    ron, come to chicago, I'll show you all of mine.
52.3337SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove jerksWed Jun 05 1996 20:173
    
    Especially the ones he'll be buried with...
    
52.3338RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Jun 06 1996 11:5912
    Re .3330:                        
    
    > rented "Ready to Wear" . . . watched about half,
    
    The first half or the outstanding cinematography at the end?
    
    
    				-- edp
    
    
Public key fingerprint:  8e ad 63 61 ba 0c 26 86  32 0a 7d 28 db e7 6f 75
To find PGP, read note 2688.4 in Humane::IBMPC_Shareware.
52.3339Mission: ImplausibleDECWIN::RALTOI don't brake for videographersFri Jun 07 1996 16:0317
    I saw "Mission: Impossible" last night.  Hmmm.  I've got some real
    mixed feelings about this one.  If I'd never heard of or seen the
    old TV series, then I'd say this movie was pretty good, although it
    had some pretty large logic holes (to me, anyway).  Having watched
    the old TV show pretty faithfully (at least until it went into the
    dumper in its last couple of years, anyway), I was more or less
    appalled at some of the developments.
    
    If you're an old M:I fan, you might want to prepare yourself for
    some surprises...
    
    And somewhere, either here or in ::MOVIES, someone was saying how
    this movie doesn't treat you like an idiot, and so on.  I must
    disagree; if they'd used a bigger hammer regarding some of the
    "surprises", I'd have a headache this morning.
    
    Chris
52.3340Let's try that again...DECWIN::RALTOI don't brake for videographersFri Jun 07 1996 16:066
    Hmph, I just read my previous reply and saw that it was predominately
    negative.  It's really a pretty good movie, and I'd recommend it.
    It's just that it may surprise and/or disappoint some old fans, in
    ways that I won't reveal here.  :-)
    
    Chris
52.3341CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowFri Jun 07 1996 16:063

 That movie is not on my list of movies to see.
52.3342JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Jun 07 1996 16:144
    Saw it, don't recommend it for an at the movies $$.  Rent it when its
    on video, it will be less dissapointing on a small screen.
    
    Blech... and I was a fan of the MI TV series.
52.3343DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Fri Jun 07 1996 17:248
Not great, but after "Twister" aqnd "Cats and Dogs", I found it an
improvement.

Pleasantly surprized that the violence level seemed somewhat restrained.
The amount of actual slash-and-gash was quite small.

Dismal year for flicks.
52.3344"Cover your eyes, kids... no, wait, it's okay"DECWIN::RALTOI don't brake for videographersFri Jun 07 1996 17:4926
> Pleasantly surprized that the violence level seemed somewhat restrained.
> The amount of actual slash-and-gash was quite small.
    
    Yes, and a good thing, too, because due to a twisted set of
    circumstances, I had to bring one of my kids to this movie.
    He was demanding to see it (he's a fan of the M:I reruns).
    
    The PG-13 rating of this movie is undeserved, imho.  Low level
    of explicit violence, almost no swearing (and what there was,
    was relatively mild), no explicit sex or nudity (heck, I don't
    think there was even a kiss, other than maybe a kiss on the cheek).
    
    
    re: Dismal year for flicks
    
    I think they're saving them up for summer, based on the promos and
    coming attractions.  Lots of big ones coming up, e.g. "Independence
    Day".
    
    re: earlier reply, save "M:I" for video rental
    
    Good idea, if only so that you can rewind it to replay confusing parts.
    Sitting in the theater yesterday, I found myself reaching for the
    remote a few times!
    
    Chris
52.3345need a seatbeltSWAM1::MEUSE_DAFri Jun 07 1996 19:4824
     
    from
    Los Angeles Times review of "The Rock"
    
    "  The film is a nonstop aural bombardment, beating the viewers
    into submission if they can't be convinced by saner methods"
    
    " It's this year's model of a dangerous sports car or designer
    knife: you don't know whether to admire it or run for cover
    when it approches"
    
    "Eager at any opportunity to pump up the volume both literally
    and metaphorically"
    
    Producer Don Simpson's last movie.
    
    Nicolas Cage is getting great reviews for this film.
    
    
    Rated R.
    
    ....yep...i'm in the mood for loud.
    
    
52.3346THEMAX::E_WALKERFri Jun 07 1996 20:551
         I'm there. Sounds great. 
52.3347WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jun 10 1996 10:451
saw Get Shorty this Saturday. pretty entertaining.
52.334843GMC::KEITHDr. DeuceMon Jun 10 1996 10:545
    Saw the Rock Fri night.
    
    It was pretty good as teenage boy action movie. I thought the Mexican
    standoff scene in the prison was most interesting with the arguing back
    and forth as to who should surrender...
52.3349MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Jun 10 1996 13:403
    Saw Mrs. Doubtfire yesterday...funny movie!
    
    -Aunt Jack
52.3350DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Mon Jun 10 1996 14:1811
    
    	Saw Dragonheart last night.  I wasn't expecting it to be
    	as funny as it was; quite a bit of humor.  The dragon is
    	very cool.......  not bad plot for midieval (sp) times fantasy
    	lore.  Sean Connery's voice was perfect for Drago.
    
    	And I can see the actress who played the heroine (don't even
    	remember if she had a name!) getting a few heart to go aflutter.
    
    	JJ
    
52.3351SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 10 1996 14:223
    
    
    	I gotta see this movie. :)
52.3352a good 'unSMURF::WALTERSMon Jun 10 1996 14:2414
    "The Brothers McMullen"
    
    Wow, a movie about real people with credible lives in actual locations.
    Very funny & heartwarming.  Rates up there with "Before Sunrise" as
    one of my faves this video season.
    
    "Jumanji"
    
    The kid liked it, but was a tad scared and kept waking me up for 
    reassurance.
    
    Colin
    
    
52.3353ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon Jun 10 1996 14:452
    
    beware of mosquitos.
52.3354BUSY::SLABOUNTYGrandchildren of the DamnedMon Jun 10 1996 14:545
    
    	I saw "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" again last night.
    
    	That's got to be in the top 5 of all time.
    
52.3355ACISS1::SCHELTERMon Jun 10 1996 15:045
    <--  Indeed, way funny
    
    
    Mike
    
52.3356head in viceSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Jun 10 1996 15:599
    
    Went and saw "The Arrival". Very good sci-fi film. Some real tense
    moments.
    
    Rented "Casino", interesting film with some big name stars. Runs
    about 3 hours (2 tapes). 
    
    
                               
52.3357CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Jun 10 1996 20:1813
    
>    	I saw "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" again last night.
    
>    	That's got to be in the top 5 of all time.
    


     I saw part of it last night..I've got to buy a copy of that movie..it
 is one o' the best.



 Jim
52.3358Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?HBAHBA::HAASmore madness, less horrorMon Jun 10 1996 20:201
52.3359MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Jun 10 1996 20:214
    I liked the end when the principle is all messed up...he gets on the
    bus and a homely looking girl sitting next to him says....
    
    "I like jellybeans..."  or some such!  
52.3360SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 10 1996 20:494
    
    	I think it's gummy-bears...
    
    
52.3361MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Jun 10 1996 21:061
    That's right!....It was gummy bears.  
52.3362SMURF::BINDERUva uvam vivendo variatMon Jun 10 1996 21:303
    Gummi Bears(r).
    
    \hth
52.3363SMURF::WALTERSTue Jun 11 1996 12:012
    Yes folks it's bear week here on the 'box.  We've had Polar Bears, Cola
    Bears and now Gummi Bears.
52.3364SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerTue Jun 11 1996 14:398
    Saw "The Phantom" last week-end.  Pretty good Saturday-afternoon-
    matinee-ala-Indiana Jones-type movie.  However, you kind of need to
    have read/seen some Phantom history to really enjoy it.  Besides, 
    it was the only movie not sold out in Tyngsboro last Saturday 
    night (we were going to see it anyway) :-) Couple of plot holes,
    but good swashbuckling entertainment.
    
    
52.3365MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Jun 11 1996 16:382
Izzat the comic strip hero Phantom?

52.3366NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jun 11 1996 16:422
Yep, he of the purple tights and skull ring.  The one you used to read in
the Horrid Urinal.
52.3367JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Jun 11 1996 21:054
    GREAT MOVIE! Phantom for the kids except the language is not great
    right from the start of the movie.
    
    Only disappointment - language.
52.3368POWDML::HANGGELI_8^p_Tue Jun 11 1996 21:053
    
    Wasn't it in English?
    
52.3369BUSY::SLABOUNTYCandy'O, I need you ...Tue Jun 11 1996 21:174
    
    	I believe Mark Battis wrote the screenplay, if that helps to
    	put things in perspective.
    
52.3370POLAR::RICHARDSONPerson to person contact laughing.Tue Jun 11 1996 21:271
    It help's.
52.3371\JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Jun 11 1996 21:291
    :-)  English with a proton flare!
52.3372ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsWed Jun 12 1996 13:089
    
    .3369
    
    <<< I believe Mark Battis wrote the screenplay, if that helps to
    put things in perspective.
    
    shawn, while I occasionally need the Ronco Comma Inserter (tm)
    do not question my vocabulary intellect; ever. My rantings in soapbox
    over the years have proven this time and time again. :-)
52.3373JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Jun 12 1996 15:363
    Saw Golden Eye last night! :-)   Except for the naked women it was a
    GREAT movie. :-)  Real Bondsy and quite er, ahem, sexy even with his
    clothes on...
52.3374DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Jun 12 1996 15:5614
The Arrival:

Pretty ordinary in concept - seen this a zillion times before - but quite
good in execution. A bit predictable in spots, but all in all, a real nail
biter.

Even less slash-and-gash in this one than in Mission Impossible. Is this
becoming a trend?
(the trailers for Eraser certainly don't promise much restraint)

Charlie Sheen still gives these intense looks that remind me too much of
the same bit he does, tongue-in-cheek, in the Hot Shots series - make me
laugh at inappropriate times.
52.3375SMURF::WALTERSWed Jun 12 1996 17:125
> Even less slash-and-gash in this one than in Mission Impossible. Is this
> becoming a trend?
    
    I hope so.  It would be nice if a movie managed to make it to the
    cortex now and then.                    
52.3376BUSY::SLABOUNTYDo you wanna bang heads with me?Wed Jun 12 1996 18:105
    
    	RE: Nancy
    
    	Do you have something against naked women?
    
52.3377yeah, I know I'm not Nancy. :-)WAHOO::LEVESQUEsunlight and thunderWed Jun 12 1996 18:181
    No, but I'd like to.
52.3378BUSY::SLABOUNTYDo you wanna bang heads with me?Wed Jun 12 1996 18:265
    
    	I should have been ready for that response.
    
    	And the author.  8^)
    
52.3379JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Jun 12 1996 20:552
    No, I have nothing against naked women, just have something against
    pornography... which is what it is.
52.3380BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Wed Jun 12 1996 20:561
    Was there a boob cake?
52.3381BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't get even ... get odd!!Wed Jun 12 1996 20:596
    
    	RE: Nancy
    
    	And I have something against hiding our bodies, that we were
    	born with, just because that's the societal norm.
    
52.3382CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Jun 12 1996 21:041
    Pornography?  
52.3383JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Jun 12 1996 21:119
    .3382
    
    Well I have two sons who were goo-goo eyed at the silhouettes of naked
    bodies...  I fast-forwarded through the intro and then I do remember
    having to fast-forward through the scene where the woman killed her
    lover.
    
    After this, it was a good flick.
    
52.3384JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Jun 12 1996 21:124
    pornography...
    
    Oh we call it acceptable because of the "class" medium it enjoys, but
    its pornography.
52.3385MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Wed Jun 12 1996 21:133
    Shawn:
    
    Trust me...you couldn't bear the new nicknames! :-)
52.3386BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't get even ... get odd!!Wed Jun 12 1996 21:155
    
    	A silhouette of a naked body is pornography?
    
    	NOW I've heard everything.
    
52.3387JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Jun 12 1996 22:214
    Amazing how the desensitization to things visually has taken its toll
    on the masses, isn't it?  You are right in your astonishment that
    someone in 1996 would consider it pornography.  But you are only
    correct in your astonishment. :-) :-)
52.3388BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amWed Jun 12 1996 22:427

	Desensitizing? Come one, Nancy. That's a bit of a stretch...... if I
see a silhouette of a man's face and shoulders, can I call that pornography?



52.3389JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Jun 12 1996 22:527
    .3388
    
    Have you seen the intro of 007 Golden Eye?  Its more than that.  And
    the light is shown on half the body exposing it to the light..
    
    Let me tell you my sons were very interested in me not fast-forwarding.
    :-)  Of course, I did anyway. They aren't desensitized yet.
52.3390BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amWed Jun 12 1996 22:593

	I doubt they ever will be while you're their mother!!!!!  :-)
52.3391JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Jun 12 1996 23:0518
    .3390
    
    I don't know whether that's a compliment or not.... :-)
    
    But I think I should say thanks.  My oldest son thanks me for the
    advice I give him, but I let him make the choices and suffer their
    consequences quite often.  I draw the line when its "me" that will
    suffer the consequences for his choice.
    
    He found a playboy magazine on garbage month in the neighborhood.  He
    brought it home, I found it.  We talked about it and I gave it back to
    him and told him it was his choice to keep it or throw it away.  
    
    The next day he told me he threw it away and then showed me it in the
    outside garbage can.
    
    I think he made the right choice and it was his choice.
    
52.3392BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amWed Jun 12 1996 23:0917
| <<< Note 52.3391 by JULIET::MORALES_NA "Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze" >>>

| I don't know whether that's a compliment or not.... :-)

	It actually is. I may not agree with your version of things all the
time, but they are your kids, and there is no harm in not wanting them to see
what you view is bad. 

	It just works batter when what is viewed as bad really is. :-)

| I think he made the right choice and it was his choice.

	I think you made the right choice as well. The way you handled it was
really cool. It gave him ownership, and thus, responsibility. That's cool.


Glen
52.3393JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Jun 12 1996 23:474
    > It just works batter when what is viewed as bad really is. :-)
    
    I've worked batter a number of times and it was never bad! :-)
    
52.3394MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Jun 13 1996 01:074
Finally got around to seeing "Waterworld".

Much better post-doomsday story than "Thunderdome".

52.3395Not bad, not greatTHEMAX::E_WALKERThu Jun 13 1996 03:042
         Reminded me a lot of "Road Warrior". Not a great movie, but still
    fun to watch. I wonder where they got the cigarettes.....
52.3396CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Jun 13 1996 12:501
    We got the 'memberin', Capt. Walker!  
52.3397CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulThu Jun 13 1996 13:344
    
    	I liked Thunderdome!
    
    
52.3398POLAR::RICHARDSONPerson to person contact laughing.Thu Jun 13 1996 13:521
    Heathen!
52.3399MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Thu Jun 13 1996 14:135
> I wonder where they got the cigarettes.....

Yes - that was a curious point ...


52.3400MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Thu Jun 13 1996 14:311
    Dom Deloise snarf!
52.3401DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Thu Jun 13 1996 15:324
re: Cigarettes

Yeah, I wondered the same thing when they showed new arrivals being frisked 
with Geiger Counters. Where did they get the batteries?
52.3402Almost forgot the best partTHEMAX::E_WALKERThu Jun 13 1996 23:123
         That movie did have a very good element - the babe Costner rescued
    from that weird floating fortress. Her mother (or whoever she was
    supposed to be) wasn't bad, either. 
52.3403SMURF::WALTERSFri Jun 14 1996 15:241
    you were three times as excited as you usually get?
52.3404POLAR::RICHARDSONPerson to person contact laughing.Sat Jun 15 1996 03:367
    I sawer Twister tonight.
    
    It was very good. The effects are incredible and I didn't find the
    story that bad. There wasn't a dull moment.
    
    Heard the reviews for cable guy are bad. Must be a good movie. But then
    again, I think Jim Carrey is one of the funiest guys I've even seen.
52.3405CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowSat Jun 15 1996 04:1214



  If Jim Carrey were never to make another movie (I can hope can't I)
  I would be a very happy man.  I can't stand the guy.




 JMO


 Jim
52.3406EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairSat Jun 15 1996 05:055
    
    We'll remember to buy you the Jim Carrey Anthology when it appears
    on video.
    
    ;^)
52.3407POLAR::RICHARDSONPerson to person contact laughing.Sat Jun 15 1996 12:574
    Jim, I have it on a reliable source that Jim Carrey doesn't like you
    very much either.
    
    8)
52.3408CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowSat Jun 15 1996 13:464


 :-)
52.3409POWDML::HANGGELI_8^p_Sun Jun 16 1996 14:356
    
    .3407
    
    You appear to be missing your nose.  I'd get that looked at if I were
    you.
    
52.3410SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jun 16 1996 14:406
    
    
    	Mz_deb, ever so helpful. ;*)
    
    
    
52.3411POLAR::RICHARDSONPerson to person contact laughing.Sun Jun 16 1996 20:031
    8)
52.3412BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amSun Jun 16 1996 20:178

	Saw Twister last night. I really liked it. Story was lame, but the
special effects were GREAT!!!!!



Glen
52.3413GIDDAY::BURTS.I.S.Mon Jun 17 1996 01:1313
We saw Twister on Saturday.  The soundtrack was *very* loud, and the acting a 
bit over the top, but, as mentioned by many others, the effects were 
*fabulous*.

Just how many cows were there??

I was _very_ strange hearing Cary Elwes with an American accent.  He's aged 
agreeably though :^)  This is only the third movie I've ever seen him in.  



\C

52.3414MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Jun 17 1996 01:2711
(Do teevee movies count here?)

I happened to catch a 1995 production of "Captains Courageous" on the Family
Channel today. (Hey - it's Fathers' Day - I'll do as I damned well please.)

I'd somehow reached this ripe old age without ever having read the book, seen
any of the screen productions, browsed the Classics Comic, glanced at the
Cliff Notes, or even spoken with anyone about it.

Pretty darn good story.

52.3415POWDML::HANGGELI_8^p_Mon Jun 17 1996 01:364
    
    What, you didn't see Twister like everyone else in the flippin' world
    this weekend 8^)?
    
52.3416BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amMon Jun 17 1996 03:0410

	Did anyone notice the NBC connections in the movie Twister? It had of
course Helen Hunt, and the guy with the curly red hair was from the Single Guy,
and lastly was the big ox guy (who rode in the new Chrysler Mini Vans) with the
goatee who is an administrator on ER. 



Glen
52.3417EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairMon Jun 17 1996 05:534
    
    I tell ya, Glen, it's a Media Conspiracy.
    
    ;!)
52.3418GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheMon Jun 17 1996 13:113
    
    saw 'backdraft' for the first time last nite.  ron howard makes some
    good stuff, but did kurt russell have to die twice?
52.3419"i'm a prickly pear!"LANDO::OLIVER_Bsnapdragons. discuss.Mon Jun 17 1996 13:122
    saw Leaving Las Vegas.  a strong statement for
    plastic tables around the pool.  
52.3420POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersMon Jun 17 1996 13:382
    I'm telling you, that steak and eggs with the mashed potatoes and gravy
    scene in Twister drove me crazy. MAN did I want some of that! 
52.3421CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Jun 17 1996 13:397


 Me too!


 "this gravy's a food group"
52.3422MFGFIN::E_WALKERMon Jun 17 1996 19:545
         Anyone seen "The Rock" yet? It looks good, and anything with Sean
    Connery is worth watching. 
        - I became disillusioned with "Twister" after I saw the HBO special
    on the making of the movie. In reality, Helen Hunt was afraid of one
    very weak tornado that threatened the production. 
52.3423SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 17 1996 20:345
    
    
    	hell, I'd be afraid of ANY tornado, weak or not.
    
    
52.3424THEMAX::SMITH_SOnly users lose drugsMon Jun 17 1996 22:535
    Being from Oklahoma, I can tell you tornadoes are highly overrated. 
    They're all over the place this time of year, but you don't really hear
    too much about them unless they do mass distruction which rarely
    occurs.  Or if they write a movie about them that grosses big$$$$.
    -ss
52.3425SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 17 1996 23:287
    
    
    	I suppose growing up around them would tend to dull your fear. I,
    on the other hand, would soil myself if I saw a large tornado zipping
    towards me. 
    
    jim
52.3426SMURF::WALTERSTue Jun 18 1996 00:211
    <  Liar.  You'd be too busy looking for people to help.
52.3427CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Jun 18 1996 00:5810


 Left work early today as I wasn't (and still am not) feeling well..so,
 I rented "casino" on the way home to watch while collapsed on the 
 couch..what a dumb movie.



 Jim
52.3428BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amTue Jun 18 1996 01:021
	Jim Carrey was in that movie, Jim? :-)
52.3429So young....THEMAX::E_WALKERTue Jun 18 1996 03:074
         Saw "The Professional" this weekend. Didn't understand what was
    going on, but it had a few good scenes. You know what I'm talking
    about, SS. That Gary Oldman(?) has to be the biggest overactor in movie
    history. 
52.3430BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amTue Jun 18 1996 11:445

	I watched something on tv last night on pbs. It was on gays in the
military during WW2. The guy who directed it was Author Dong. Do they search
for these people? :-)
52.3431ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsTue Jun 18 1996 12:265
    
    ed, try Assasins or "The Specialist", both are superior to the
    "Professional".
    
    Mark
52.3432SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jun 18 1996 13:155
    
    
    	re: .3426
    
    	possibly. :*)
52.3433'CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Jun 18 1996 13:2511
>	Jim Carrey was in that movie, Jim? :-)


  No.  I like Robert DeNiro and Joe Pesci (though his typical character is
  getting rather tiring).  It just never seemed to get going.  In fact I
  almost shut the thing off about an hour or so into it.



 Jim
52.3434PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 18 1996 13:439
  .3433  DeNiro was devastating as always, and I thought Stone
	 was quite good.  But I know what you mean about how it
	 didn't seem to get going.

	 Saw the 2nd Ace V. movie.  Not nearly as funny as the
	 first, I thought, but there were some really good moments
	 and at least now I know what "Bumblebee Tuna" is all
	 about.
52.3435Can U Make A Face? Earn $20,000,000! See Inside CoverAMN1::RALTOI don't brake for videographersTue Jun 18 1996 13:4621
  > If Jim Carrey were never to make another movie (I can hope can't I)
  > I would be a very happy man.  I can't stand the guy.
    
    And rest assured that you're not alone... even though the guy makes
    my skin crawl, I relented to the family majority and "allowed" his
    wretched "Ace Ventura II" to pass through my cable box on Pay Per View.
    The only thing I laughed at was the rhino scene (or was it a hippo,
    I forget), but that was more for the sight gag and the reactions of
    the onlookers than for anything he brought to it.
    
    Carrey himself was simply mediocre... he's essentially the face-making
    class clown that inhabits every school, magnified by a big screen.  I'd
    been expecting something at least somewhat entertaining and creative
    from him, given all the hype.  Of course, the script itself was a dud,
    so that didn't help matters any.
    
    The fact that someone so ordinary and unimaginative has apparently
    captured the fancy of America's moviegoing public says a lot about
    where we've gone in recent years.
    
    Chris
52.3436CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Jun 18 1996 13:4710



  It got going in the last 20 minutes or so.  Yes, DeNiro was good..I liked
  Goodfellas much more



 Jim
52.3437PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 18 1996 13:508
>      <<< Note 52.3435 by AMN1::RALTO "I don't brake for videographers" >>>

>    The only thing I laughed at was the rhino scene (or was it a hippo,
>    I forget), but that was more for the sight gag and the reactions of
>    the onlookers than for anything he brought to it.

	exactamundo.  it was a rhino.

52.3438POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersTue Jun 18 1996 13:587
|    The fact that someone so ordinary and unimaginative has apparently
|    captured the fancy of America's moviegoing public says a lot about
|    where we've gone in recent years.
    
    Ordinary? Unimaginative? You're describing yourself!
    
    You couldn't hold a candle to this guy!
52.3439Nix to Carrey...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseTue Jun 18 1996 14:024
    
      He's not funny.
    
      bb
52.3440CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Jun 18 1996 14:0415



  I watched about 15 minutes of the first Ace Ventura movie and turned it off..
  I've seen enough of the trailers for "Cable Guy" to know that I have no
  desire whatsoever to see that movie.  He was "OK" in Batman, "The Mask"
  wasn't too bad.  "Dumb and Dumber" was..well, dumb..


  I enjoy comedy..I just can't stand Jim Carrey.



 Jim
52.3441A Man with a PlanDPE1::ARMSTRONGTue Jun 18 1996 14:2219
    Has anyone seen 'A man with a Plan'?
    Its playing at the Kenmore Sq. Theater and West Newton Theater.

    Its directed/produced by a guy from Vermont, John O'Brien.  The
    basic story is that somehow (haven't seen it) an old farmer decides
    to run for Congress and his campaign takes off.  There are no
    'stars' in the movie, just local people from O'Brien's town.
    The farmer, John Tuttle, is supposed to be wonderful.  I heard
    it called a 'mockumentary'.

    I heard Dave Brudnoi interviewing them on his show last week.
    He had seen the movie and simply loved it.  The movie sounded so
    good that I called up our local movie house but they had never
    heard of it.  They were interested, so I found some reviews on
    AltaVista last night and ended up talking to John O'Brien up in Vermont
    to see about getting them a print to show.

    I hope its as good as it sounds.
    bob
52.3442MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Jun 18 1996 14:284
I have yet to see any Jim Carrey film. Everytime I see him on teevee
I feel like strangling him, so I guess watching a film wouldn't be
the wisest of ideas.

52.3443LANDO::OLIVER_Bsnapdragons. discuss.Tue Jun 18 1996 14:301
    he's sort of like the jerry lewis of the '90s.
52.3444don't you guys know genius when it trips over an ottoman?WAHOO::LEVESQUEshow us the team!Tue Jun 18 1996 14:3016
    >Ordinary? Unimaginative? You're describing yourself!
    
    >You couldn't hold a candle to this guy!
    
     Glenn's right. Carrey is a comic genius. Clearly the most talented,
    original and humorous man in America- nay, to have ever lived. The sun
    rises and sets on his sheer brilliance. There's no other reason to go
    to a movie theater in latter 20th century north america. He's
    underrated and unappreciated, but history will reflect the sheer
    magnitude of his talent. Not to mention the fact that his subtlety
    literally transcends the limits of the silver screen.
    
     I understand that in his new movie: Ace Ventura in the Great White
    North he walks on water *without the use of special effects or camera
    tricks.* He's God, pure and simple, and you guys are just too dull to
    appreciate him.
52.3445CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Jun 18 1996 14:3312
>I have yet to see any Jim Carrey film. Everytime I see him on teevee
>I feel like strangling him, so I guess watching a film wouldn't be
>the wisest of ideas.


 Not only are you lucky, Jack..you are also a very wise man.



 Jim

52.3446POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersTue Jun 18 1996 14:445
    It's nice to see that Mark is finally starting to make sense. Welcome
    Mark! Life is a whole lot funnier than you think it is! Enjoy! Drink it
    in! Laughing is always more fun than grumbling eh?
    
    Thumbs up! Atta boy! and a Bumblebee Tuna to you!
52.3447PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jun 18 1996 14:446
	jerry lewis had his moments.  he was purty freakin'	
	funny in some scenes of his earlier movies, i thought.
	same with carrey.  if he doesn't overdo it, he can
	be a riot.  the attitude is great. ;>

52.3448Everyone who buys a ticket can be a movie criticAMN1::RALTOI don't brake for videographersTue Jun 18 1996 16:0012
    > Ordinary? Unimaginative? You're describing yourself!
    
    How might you know that?  You've never seen the faces I can make...
    
    
    > You couldn't hold a candle to this guy!
    
    After hearing some of the sounds he makes, I'd be afraid to hold
    a candle to him... the resulting explosion would no doubt rival
    anything produced in a college dorm gasflash experiment.
    
    Chris
52.3449"And now, a bizarre story from the local cineplex..."AMN1::RALTOI don't brake for videographersTue Jun 18 1996 16:0410
> I have yet to see any Jim Carrey film. Everytime I see him on teevee
> I feel like strangling him, so I guess watching a film wouldn't be
> the wisest of ideas.
    
    That's why I did the Pay-Per-View thing.  Given my extreme reaction
    to him on teevee at home, I was afraid of what I might do in an
    actual movie theater with other people in it.  You'd probably have
    seen me on the eleven o'clock news that night... :-)
    
    Chris
52.3450Thought "The Mask" Was FunnySTRATA::BARBIERITue Jun 18 1996 20:452
      The only Carey movie I saw was "The Mask."  I didn't expect to
      like it, but I thought it was really funny.
52.3451ACISS2::LEECHTue Jun 18 1996 21:0715
    Actually, there were a few parts of Pet Detective that had me
    laughing.  Something about the opening scene had me in stitches, I'll
    confess, though I may have just been in a weird mood that day.  8^)
    
    I found The Mask entertaining for the most part, too.  
    
    I can understand why many do not like Carry, though, he tends to
    get obnoxious right quick.  He doesn't seem to know when to quit, which
    helps him to get on the nerves of many movie-goers.
    
    I only saw part of Ace Ventura 2, and most of it was "over kill"
    comedy.  Some parts were fairly humorous, though.  
    
    
    -steve
52.3452It was a dumb movie, but still fun.ACISS2::LEECHTue Jun 18 1996 21:106
    I did go see Happy Gilmore at the cheapo theater a few weeks ago.  I
    was in stitches during certain parts of the movie.  Not much of a story
    or a plot, but it was pretty funny in parts- well worth the $1.75
    admission.
    
    ymmv, of course.  8^)
52.3453MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Jun 18 1996 22:227
"Dead End" - 1937, starring Bogie and Joel McCrae, and introducing the
Dead End Kids/East Side Kids/Bowery Boys (Huntz Hall, Billy Hallop, Leo
Gorcy, et. al.) Ward Bond has an interesting part as does Marjorie Main.


Good flick. See it.

52.3454SMURF::WALTERSWed Jun 19 1996 12:297
    <-  I concur.  Good movie in the tradition of "Brighton Rock".
    
    My pick this week is "Balto".  Animated story of the Iditerod race.  My
    kids love it and so do I.   Polar bears, Grizzlies, mean dogs, and
    minimal love interest.  What more could a guy ask for?
    
     
52.3455ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsWed Jun 19 1996 15:372
    
    <--- a cheeseburger out of a vending machine, perhaps?
52.3456good flickTROOA::BUTKOVICHB^(Wed Jun 19 1996 22:384
    rented "Copycat" last night - Sigourney Weaver was a very convincing
    agoraphobic.  Too bad Harry Connick didn't have a larger role - I never
    would have imagined that he would be cast as such a creepy character
    and do such a good job.
52.3457SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jun 23 1996 13:0911
    
    
    	Watched "Desperado" last night.....wot a STUPID movie! I thought I
    would at least enjoy the gunplay and maybe have fun pointing out the
    hollyweird tricks to my wife, but I was wrong. The movie was so far out
    of whack with reality it wasn't worth the effort. 
    	
    	Save your money and DON'T rent this one.
    
    
    jim
52.3458POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersSun Jun 23 1996 14:341
    Yabbut, Salma Hayek, ooo la la!
52.3459SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jun 23 1996 17:483
    
    
    	agreed. she's a babe......:)
52.3460BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amMon Jun 24 1996 10:568
| <<< Note 52.3459 by SUBPAC::SADIN "Freedom isn't free." >>>



| agreed. she's a babe......:)


	She's a pig? :-)
52.3461SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 24 1996 11:085
    
    
    	You got sumpin' against barnyard animals?
    
    
52.3462BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amMon Jun 24 1996 11:143
	No, I just can't believe you called her a pig! She seemed very innocent
to me. :-)
52.3463CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulMon Jun 24 1996 13:3711
    
    	Saw Rob Roy this weekend.  Jessica Lange was absolutely
    	fantastic.  I forget, did she win an Oscar for that performance,
    	or just a nomination ?
    
    	The movie itself was fairly slow for at least the first half.
    	It picked up enough for us to watch it to the end, and I'd
    	give it a thumbs up, though not a hearty one.
    
    	Karen
    
52.3464ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon Jun 24 1996 13:474
    
    saw Money Train and Golden Eye this weekend. Thought both would be
    better than they were.  There were a couple of good scenes in both
    though.
52.3465GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheMon Jun 24 1996 14:135
    saw twister friday nite (during the rainstorm).  was a decent movie. 
    still don't know how come those leather straps at the end did't break,
    but i guess if they did, then the movie wouldn't have ended the way it
    did...i still liked the movie in general.
    
52.3466MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Jun 24 1996 14:5615
    Saw Fiddler on the Roof Saturday.  My Father's Day present ya know!
    
    I was quite amazed at reading the names of the cast.  I never saw so
    many Irish/Welch/Scottish names in the typecasting of a Jewish village.
    
    Not being super familiar with early Russian history, the question I
    have is...
    
    The young man who was Starsky on Starsky and Hutch...was he a communist
    in Fiddler or was he fighting communism?  It seems like he was the good
    guy and the gubmint was bad, however, his speech in Kiev regarding
    solidarity lead me to believe he actually helped usher communism to the
    country.  Also, was the government under the Czar a dictatorship?
    
    -Jack
52.3467BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amMon Jun 24 1996 14:574

	raq, i think it would have been fun to watch them fly through the air.
It was fun watching the cow!
52.3468POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeMon Jun 24 1996 15:277
    
    Meaty:
    
    Perchik was a commie.  FOTR was set during the turn of the century,
    i.e. pre-commie times.  
    
    
52.3469 MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Jun 24 1996 15:291
    
52.3470MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Jun 24 1996 15:291
    Thanks Mz. Debra.  
52.3471POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeMon Jun 24 1996 15:305
    
    Would you like the dissertation on pre-communist-era-Russian-history
    now, or was that enough to satisfy your curiosity 8^)?
    
    
52.3472MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Jun 24 1996 15:393
    I would actually like it very much...similar to when Perchik and the
    pretty second daughter started a new custom...(do you remember what
    that was!?) Remember she said, "Ttttthat's very nice!?"
52.3473SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoMon Jun 24 1996 15:5418
    Stacey and I had a date Thursday, we went out and saw The Rock.
    Nicholas Cage's character was well-played, but drawn somewhat larger
    than life.  I really don't think he's the kind of FBI agent who'd
    commandeer a Ferrari and crash it through a painted-over plate-glass 
    window.  Then again, since he was trained to handle all that nasty
    chem-weaponry and plastique explosif, maybe he is.  So on the
    believability of the characters scale, it didn't make it.  Similarly
    with that general who came in the end to rely on a team that wasn't
    entirely handpicked for loyalty- that character would not have put
    himself in that position.
    
    There was a subsonic roar in the soundtrack, we were in a large theatre
    with some kind of special effects speakers...I was jumpy as a cat
    during the entire movie.
    
    Enjoyed it anyway.
    
    DougO
52.3474A long, long Maxwell House nightDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefMon Jun 24 1996 16:0751
    After drinking too much coffee the other night, I spent most of the
    night sitting by myself watching cable stuff.  Two movies that I
    hazily recall watching are:
    
    "Four Friends".  I have mixed feelings about the class of movies
    that essentially follows the lives of a group of people as they
    grow up (usually during the sixties and/or seventies, of course).
    Most of them seem to follow the path set by their apparent prototype,
    "American Graffiti" (which is one of my favorites despite its
    various implausibilities), and essentially end up pretty much back
    where they started.  I've never observed this to happen in "real life",
    but then I don't hang around my hometown much.  For all I know, maybe
    most of 'em are still there.
    
    As a side issue, I spent most of the movie trying to figure out where
    I'd seen the female lead before.  It wasn't until the closing credits
    (I'd just missed the opening credits) when I recognized her name,
    Jodi Thelen, as playing the "younger sister" role (and stealing the
    show most of the time) on an early Fox-channel sitcom whose name
    escapes me.  I can't remember whether this series was before or after
    the "Four Friends" movie; I'd always figured she was going places, but
    I don't believe I've seen her since that Fox sitcom.
    
    
    "Blame It On Rio".  Oh dear.  In spite of the always-welcome presence
    of Joseph Bologna, this was a wretched, leering, dirty-old-man delight
    in the style of Gene Roddenberry's "Pretty Maids All in a Row", that
    made me feel "unclean" just for having watched it, not an easy
    accomplishment in my case.  It's your basic "old guy pokes his best
    friend's teenage daughter whom he's known all her life" scenario; in
    an attempt at barely-disguised incestuous titillation, she constantly
    refers to him as "Uncle" <insert his first name here>.  One is left
    wondering how long he's lusted for her.  How nice.
    
    It's a "laugh riot" as Dad Bologna learns of his daughter's affair with
    an unnamed older man, and enlists the help of (surprise!) his best
    friend to attempt to find the lecherous culprit.  The anticipated plot
    twist (i.e., that Dad has made it with the "Uncle"'s daughter, who's
    also on hand) mercifully never materializes, but suffice it to say
    that there are other sexual misadventures to be uncovered in this
    tangled web.  In the end, basically, everyone has to forgive everyone
    else because they've all done the nasty with each other's somebody.
    How nice, again.
    
    During the same TV-watching marathon, I'd also seen an excellent old
    episode of "Thriller" (a "Twilight-Zonish" series with more of a
    macabre bent, from the same time period), with very young Tom Poston
    and Elizabeth Montgomery, but that's a TV show so I won't go on about it
    (or the "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" series also seen that night) here.
    
    Chris
52.3475WAHOO::LEVESQUEplus je bois, mieux je chanteMon Jun 24 1996 17:1430
>    "Blame It On Rio".  Oh dear.  In spite of the always-welcome presence
>    of Joseph Bologna, this was a wretched, leering, dirty-old-man delight
>    in the style of Gene Roddenberry's "Pretty Maids All in a Row", that
>    made me feel "unclean" just for having watched it, not an easy
>    accomplishment in my case.  It's your basic "old guy pokes his best
>    friend's teenage daughter whom he's known all her life" scenario; in
>    an attempt at barely-disguised incestuous titillation, she constantly
>    refers to him as "Uncle" <insert his first name here>.  One is left
>    wondering how long he's lusted for her.  How nice.
    
>    It's a "laugh riot" as Dad Bologna learns of his daughter's affair with
>    an unnamed older man, and enlists the help of (surprise!) his best
>    friend to attempt to find the lecherous culprit.  The anticipated plot
>    twist (i.e., that Dad has made it with the "Uncle"'s daughter, who's
>    also on hand) mercifully never materializes, but suffice it to say
>    that there are other sexual misadventures to be uncovered in this
>    tangled web.  In the end, basically, everyone has to forgive everyone
>    else because they've all done the nasty with each other's somebody.
>    How nice, again.
    
     I saw this years ago, and I liked it. There were some really funny
    moments- especially where Bologna is pacing like a caged tiger tell
    Caine how he's going to kill the unidentified lover (Caine), and Caine
    is furiously shredding carrots in his nervousness. When he picks up the
    shredder, there's a HUGE pile of shredded carrots. Caine's got the
    nervous act down pat.
    
     It's no All the President's Men or Annie Hall, but it's cute, light
    and easy to get lost in. Sounds like you need to cut down on the
    caffeine intake, Mr Unclean. ;-)
52.3476NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Jun 24 1996 17:451
Wasn't "Blame in on Rio" Demi Moore's first movie (or the first she starred in)?
52.3477CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsMon Jun 24 1996 17:471
    It was her topless debut.
52.3478old titlesHBAHBA::HAASmore madness, less horrorMon Jun 24 1996 17:495
>    It was her topless debut.

It was back when she competed in the Pro Stock class.

She's definitely running modified now...
52.3479SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Jun 24 1996 17:492
    From what I've seen of Demi Moore (pun intended), "starred in" and
    "topless" form a tautology.
52.3480Anyone remember Buck Henry's "Uncle Roy" on SNL?DECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefMon Jun 24 1996 17:5012
    Demi Moore's character was apparently the only one who didn't indulge
    in all the fun, which was a surprise (and probably a disappointment)
    to me.  I can usually guess out plot developments pretty well.
    
    Bologna was great as usual, and saved the movie (i.e., made it
    watchable, which it probably wouldn't have been with a lesser
    actor in the role).
    
    As for the rest of it, I think they should have cast Buck Henry
    as the "Uncle".  :-)
    
    Chris
52.3481Modified to fit your screenDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefMon Jun 24 1996 17:517
    re: last few
    
    Whoa!  Sounds like I saw a "cleaned up" version... but I did miss
    the first fifteen minutes or so.  Maybe I'll, uh, have to rent
    this one.  I'll suffer through it again... :-)
    
    Chris
52.3482CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Jun 24 1996 17:529


  I liked Bologna's line when he was loading up the car to leave.."I've
 had enough of this <ro> paradise"



 Jim
52.3483CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Jun 24 1996 17:538

 The first 15 minutes or so were rather, uh, revealing.




 Jim
52.3484Demi gets her baps oot.VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyMon Jun 24 1996 21:214
    Boy, Demi Moore certainly seems to be in the mood to show her
    ASSets a lot lately.
    
    I saw Goldeneye this weekend.  It was good. 
52.3485whoever that is...THEMAX::SMITH_SMon Jun 24 1996 23:232
    I heard her next flick is with Ron Jeremy.
    :)_ss
52.3486THEMAX::E_WALKERTue Jun 25 1996 01:014
         Everyone excited about "Independence Day"? Saw previews this
    weekend - could just possibly be the greatest movie of all time.
    Hopefully the aliens win - there better not be some stupid cop-out
    ending where they all die of chicken pox or the cold or something. 
52.3487isn't she butchWAHOO::LEVESQUEplus je bois, mieux je chanteTue Jun 25 1996 11:234
    >Boy, Demi Moore certainly seems to be in the mood to show her
    >ASSets a lot lately.
    
     And what an "attractive" new 'do.
52.3488BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amTue Jun 25 1996 13:273

	It looks like Bruce has white hair now. Demi has none. 
52.3489WMOIS::CONNELLStory does that to us.Tue Jun 25 1996 19:2010
    The novelization of Independence Day is out and I read it over the
    weekend, (Couldn't get to Arethrusa Falls in the rain). If the book is
    any indication (and they usually aren't), then the movie will be pretty
    good. If you're a Sci-Fi fan, then it'll be pretty good. Greatest movie
    of all time? I don't think so. Not even close. S/FX should be real good
    and may be Oscar material. Have to wait and see.
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ(Who won't spoil the ending)
52.3490He writes as the new "Chrome Buzz" stands on the Sony....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Jun 25 1996 19:2811
    
    Remember when there were *gasp* movies?
    
    No "novelizations"?
    No Big Macs tied in?
    No "action figure" aisles filled with crap before the movie is even
    out?
    No "reserve your copy of the video" rubbish?
    
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3491CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Jun 25 1996 19:335


 ..and we weren't besieged with reports of how much money a movie grossed
 in its first weekend..
52.3492SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove jerksTue Jun 25 1996 19:358
    
    
    >Remember when there were *gasp* movies?
    
    Enjoyed a really good movie Saturday night with close and dear friends
    
    The Adventures of Robin Hood starring Errol Flynn...
    
52.3493POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeTue Jun 25 1996 19:363
    
    Oh, I love that movie.  That is such a wonderful movie.
    
52.3494SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove jerksTue Jun 25 1996 19:3911
    
    
    
    >Oh, I love that movie.  That is such a wonderful movie.
    
    
    Hmmmm... we'll have to get together and watch it sometime...
    
    
    I'll bring the pop-corn, if you'll bring the Raisinettes...
    
52.3495CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Jun 25 1996 19:404


 I'll bring the bon bons!
52.3496POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeTue Jun 25 1996 19:425
    
    Oh, I don't like raisinettes!  I'll bring the M&Ms, tho, plain not
    peanut.
    
    
52.3497SOLVIT::KRAWIECKItumble to remove jerksTue Jun 25 1996 19:436
    
    
    Oh gee!!!  You don't like nuthin I do!!
    
    How about the peanut ones... just for me?? Please??
    
52.3498POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeTue Jun 25 1996 19:434
    
    A bag of each.  And I'll bring "It's A Wonderful Life", too, for
    watching after.
    
52.3499EVMS::MORONEYIt's alive! Alive!Tue Jun 25 1996 19:447
I'll bring the mint toothpicks.



What do you mean I'm not invited!

52.3500POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeTue Jun 25 1996 19:464
    
    {frown}
    
    
52.3501Three thumbs down for Seven, GoldenEye and The Usual Suspects....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Jun 25 1996 19:4912
    BTW, the new Bond movie?
                                                
    The silhouettes at the start of a Bond film have been around for
    oh - only about thirty years.
    
    When the standard Bond-film she-villian murdered the general, well,
    that's right out - fast forward that.
    
    But when she was very audible (When-Harry-Met-Sally-esque) while she
    murdered dozens - well, that's just good clean fun I guess.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3502BUSY::SLABOUNTYGot into a war with reality ...Tue Jun 25 1996 20:255
    
    	Errol Flynn??
    
    	He some sort of a ballplayer or something?
    
52.3503MFGFIN::E_WALKERWed Jun 26 1996 03:168
         Saw a lengthier preview of "Independence Day" last night and got
    so excited I almost had a seizure. And opening day is still ten days
    away! It has something for everyone - a huge white house explosion,
    dogfights between jet fighters and alien spacecraft - mass carnage.
    Kind of like those old '50's invasion movies, only with great effects
    and a huge budget. Say what you will about movies today; anytime I can
    pay $3.75 for $100,000,000's worth of entertainment, I call it a good
    deal. 
52.3504THEMAX::SMITH_Ssmeller's the fellerWed Jun 26 1996 03:182
    Sucker!!!!!
    -ss_who_makes_it_a_Blockbuster_night
52.3505EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairWed Jun 26 1996 05:4011
    
    .3503
    
    "...a huge white house explosion"
    
    The Texas theaters began running previews of Independence Day (labelled
    IDX 4 before they figured out what to call the film) about 6 months
    ago.  Every time the White House blew up, about 1/5th of the audience
    would cheer.
    
    
52.3506THEMAX::E_WALKERWed Jun 26 1996 05:423
         I cheered, and I was at home. Got so worked up I went out back and
    fired an "airburst". Woke the neighbors up. 
    
52.3507EDITEX::MOOREGetOuttaMyChairWed Jun 26 1996 06:025
    
    > Woke the neighbors up.
    
    Too bad they voted for the bastahd.
    
52.3508GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheWed Jun 26 1996 12:514
    
    hey deb, didn't we just watch that version of robin hood???
    
    
52.3509POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeWed Jun 26 1996 12:543
    
    Over a year ago, that was!
    
52.3510BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amWed Jun 26 1996 12:562
Robin Hood, men in tights was on last night. I only got to see about 15 minutes
of it though. 
52.3511WAHOO::LEVESQUEplus je bois, mieux je chanteWed Jun 26 1996 12:591
    Lemme guess. Then you went blind.
52.3512CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Jun 26 1996 13:115
    Watched Heat last night.  Liked it.  Different role for John Voight but
    he did well.  I did not care for Pacino's character but DeNiro's was
    great.  I found myself sort of rooting for the bad guys.  Good watch.  
    
    Brian
52.3513GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheWed Jun 26 1996 13:263
    
    thank u doc, now come ovah here and wipe the milk off my screen!
    
52.3514BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amWed Jun 26 1996 13:313

	I had the song, "I'm turning Japenese" playing in the background!
52.3515LANDO::OLIVER_Bsnapdragons. discuss.Wed Jun 26 1996 14:194
    found some more light summer fare.  this one's called
    "clean, shaven".  about a schizophrenic man, recently 
    released from a sanitarium, who goes searching for his
    daughter.
52.3516The aliens must be trying to help us.ACISS2::LEECHWed Jun 26 1996 15:234
    > a huge white house explosion [...]
    
    
    Hmm... my curiosity is piqued.  8^)
52.3517SNAX::BOURGOINEWed Jun 26 1996 16:1414
..         Everyone excited about "Independence Day"? Saw previews this
..    weekend - could just possibly be the greatest movie of all time.
..    Hopefully the aliens win - there better not be some stupid cop-out
...    ending where they all die of chicken pox or the cold or something. 

	 I can't wait to see this one!!!   This looks great!!!
	In fact - when I went to see The Arrival - it was this one I thought
	we were seeing.  (I saw the trail at the Drive-Ins to see James and
	the Giant Peach - and I was trying to get everyone settled = so...)

	Anyone up for a field trip?????

Pat

52.35182hrs, 20 minutesSWAM1::MEUSE_DAWed Jun 26 1996 16:3712
    
    Last night on tv they showed the crowds out here in Westwood, CA
    near UCLA. 
    
    It was a "special premier of "Independence Day" (ID4$). All the
    stars of the movie were supposed to be there etc etc.
    
    Don't know if they interviewed the audience after seeing it.
    
    
    
    
52.3519it blows up, ..BillSWAM1::MEUSE_DAWed Jun 26 1996 17:386
    
    The producer and director of Independence Day were invited to the
    White House. They are bringing the only copy for a Saturday
    night showing.
    
    
52.3520BULEAN::BANKSThu Jun 27 1996 19:264
My own Independence Day:

Looking forward to my yearly viewing of "1776."  Never fails to bring tears
to my eyes.  (Seriously.)
52.3521in Philadelphia....GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseThu Jun 27 1996 19:284
    
      Someone open up a window !
    
      bb
52.3522POLAR::RICHARDSONHere we are now, in containersFri Jun 28 1996 14:417
    I rented two movies last night.
    
    Powder - I really enjoyed this one, I didn't want it to end. I avoided
    	     it because I thought it would make me cry. I was right.
    
    Clockers - Maybe it was just my state of mind, but I found this movie
    	       dragged and dragged and dragged. Ahiight?!
52.3523FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jun 30 1996 17:029
    
    
    	re: clockers
    
    	yeah, it was kinda lame. Oh well. Spike Lee can't be great all the
    time.
    
    
    jim
52.3524WAHOO::LEVESQUEit seemed for all of eternityMon Jul 01 1996 15:087
    Saw Goldeneye last night. My anticipation of a fleshy intro, kindled by 
    Nancy's shock over its content, was largely a disappointment. Certainly
    among the more tame Bond intros I've ever seen.
    
     The movie itself was reasonably amusing, with decent special effects
    and fairly typical stretching the bounds of believability escapism.
    Nice villainess.
52.3525LANDO::OLIVER_Bsnapdragons. discuss.Mon Jul 01 1996 15:101
    i watched "the princess bride".  ab fab.
52.3526BUSY::SLABOUNTYGood Heavens,Cmndr,what DID you doMon Jul 01 1996 15:257
    
    	RE: .3525
    
    	Definitely.  1 of the better movies of all time, IMO.
    
    	And I heard the book was quite good as well.
    
52.3527GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheMon Jul 01 1996 15:518
    
    saw 'moonlight and valentino' and 'the net' over the weekend.  only
    rented 'm&v' cuz jon bon jovi was in it.  what a butt!  :>  and i like
    whoopi goldberg.  strange movie.  'the net' was ok.  being the computer
    genius that i am, i got lost a couple of time thru it, but it was ok. 
    and i only had to unglue steve's eyes from the tv once.
    
    
52.3528TROOA::BUTKOVICHchairman of the boredMon Jul 01 1996 19:5031
    I've been on a movie kick for the last week (gearing up for the Sept
    Toronto Film Festival?) and have seen:
    
    The Rock - good action flick and Connery, Harris and especially Cage do
               a decent job.  You must suspend reality for parts of this 
    	       movie.
    
    Courage Under Fire - very very good - another bravura (sp?) performance
    	       by Denzel Washington. Directed by the same guy who did 
               'Glory' (Edward Zwick, I think)  Meg Ryan is cast as the
    		lead, but her role is fairly minor.  This movie involves a
    		series of flashbacks and possible scenerios - I kept
    		thinking I had it solved and finding out I didn't.  I bet
    		Washington would get a nomination if this had been released
    		later in the year.
    
    Bed of Roses - very sweet romance starring Christian Slater and Mary
    		Stuart Masterson.  Made me wish I had someone in my life
    		who would send me flowers!  8*)  Soundtrack includes the
    		Jann Arden song, "Insensitive" and "Icecream" by Sarah M
    
    Twister - saw it for the 2nd time because it was boiling hot in the 
    		house yesterday and after doing all my chores (especially
    		staining the deck - yuck!) I went to the closest 
    		air-conditioned theatre for the matinee and it was a 
    		choice between this or "The Cable Guy".  I'm not a Carrey
    		fan, so this won out.
    
    Hear - well, I haven't watched it yet, but it has to be back at
           Blockbuster by 11 tonight, so I better get to it - this movie is
    	  177 minutes long - I hope it's worth it!
52.3529TROOA::BUTKOVICHchairman of the boredMon Jul 01 1996 19:511
    that last movie should be "Heat", not "Hear"
52.3530BUSY::SLABOUNTYch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haMon Jul 01 1996 19:537
    
    	New Whoopi Goldberg movie coming out soon ... I think she's a
    	cop and her partner is a dinosaur.
    
    	Looks just as funny as you'd expect a "cop movie with dinosaur
    	as a partner" movie to be.
    
52.3531LANDO::OLIVER_Bsnapdragons. discuss.Mon Jul 01 1996 20:271
    whoopi sure has a knack for picking out clunkers.  
52.3532ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsMon Jul 01 1996 20:372
    
    <--- like Ted Danson?
52.3533Too Funny!!!LUDWIG::BARBIERIMon Jul 01 1996 22:464
    re: .3511
    
    gotta admit...I was in uncontrollable laughter on that one!
    
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52.3535Question About Clockers...STRATA::BARBIERITue Jul 02 1996 22:2019
      I saw Clockers this past weekend and thought it was OK, but
      I am confused about it.  They showed the main character shooting
      the guy and then near the end state that his brother killed the
      guy.  So which is it?  Was showing the brother just an illusion
      to steer us from the truth?  If it was his brother, its kind of
      lame that you'd have that coincedence with the main character's
      boss just so happening to ask him to do him in within the exact
      same timeframe and he just so happening to be in that bar that one
      single time(????).
    
      I thought the characterization was *excellent* though.  From the
      main character to his 'boss' to the mother of the boy...
    
    
      Also saw the Net which I liked very much.
    
      Also saw Powder fairly recently and it was a pretty intense movie.
    
    						Tony
52.3536Spike Lee Recommendations?STRATA::BARBIERITue Jul 02 1996 22:223
      Which Spike Lee movies are most higly recommended?  I saw only
      one other, Moe Better Blues which I thought was pretty good and
      for which I would recommend a very good stereo.
52.3537FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 02 1996 22:5715
    
    
>      I saw Clockers this past weekend and thought it was OK, but
>      I am confused about it.  They showed the main character shooting
>      the guy and then near the end state that his brother killed the
>      guy.  So which is it?  
    
    	From what I remember, they never actually showed the main character
    doing the shooting, just that he was there with the gun. Then he went
    to see his brother and his brother ended up shooting the victim. 
    
    	I'll admit to a bit of a foggy recollection on that part of the
    movie.
    
    jim
52.3538JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Jul 02 1996 23:157
    >Also saw Powder fairly recently and it was a pretty intense movie.
    
    Rented that one myself... was rather touched by the whole thing.  My
    kids and I watched it.  We had quite a philosophical discussion
    afterwards.  I love movies that provoke thought.
    
    
52.3539FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 02 1996 23:187
    
    
    	>I love movies that provoke thought.
    
    	Yeah, The Wall for one. :)
    
    
52.3540JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Jul 02 1996 23:191
    The what?  Sounds Pink Floydish to me.
52.3541MFGFIN::E_WALKERI (rake) my (hamster)Tue Jul 02 1996 23:202
         Thanks for the warnings. I'll keep "Powder" and "Clockers" off my
    "movies to watch" list.
52.3542MFGFIN::E_WALKERI (rake) my (hamster)Tue Jul 02 1996 23:213
         "The Wall" was okay, for a tripped out movie. If you're looking
    for a really whacky movie one night, try "Natural Born Killers". Five
    stars. 
52.3543FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 02 1996 23:357
    
    
    	I've seen "Natural Born Killers". It's more MTVish than "The Wall",
    but still a good escape. "The Wall" is deeper in my humble opinion...
    
    
    jim
52.3544THEMAX::SMITH_SI (neuter) my (catbutt)Tue Jul 02 1996 23:391
    I really like Oliver Stone.  
52.3545MFGFIN::E_WALKERI (rake) my (hamster)Tue Jul 02 1996 23:404
         "NBK" at least had a message about the media today. "The Wall" was
    just pure craziness. It had kind of a bad message, too. The Neo-Nazi
    rally was particularly disturbing, since the movie seemed to be
    endorsing this type of activity. 
52.3546FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 02 1996 23:449
    
    
    	Man, you didn't understand the wall at all, didja? The movie far
    from endorsed nazis and in fact was showing how twisted they were. The
    wall had a lot of messages about growing up, the changes, the pain, the
    isolation we sometimes feel, etc. Take another peek at it sometime...
    
    
    jim
52.3547THEMAX::SMITH_SI (neuter) my (catbutt)Wed Jul 03 1996 01:042
    Drop a hit & watch it. It'll all come clear then.
    -ss
52.3548SCASS1::BARBER_AI caught the moon todayWed Jul 03 1996 13:181
    Blue Velvet beats Natural Born Killers anyday.  
52.3549SALEM::DODAA little too smart for a big dumb townWed Jul 03 1996 13:243
Natural Born Killers inhaled. True Romance was a great movie.

daryll
52.3550PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 03 1996 13:265
>    Blue Velvet beats Natural Born Killers anyday.  

	you can say that again.  er, but you don't need to. ;>

52.3551PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 03 1996 13:374
	"Sense and Sensibility" - best movie i've seen in a looooong time.
	Bee-yoo-tifully filmed and some terrific acting, i thought.
	
52.3552LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Wed Jul 03 1996 13:476
    .3551
    
    i liked it too.  i didn't even mind hughie in that one.
    emma and alan were quite good.  and the older, roundish
    woman who took them in after the dad died - she was a 
    hot ticket!
52.3553PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 03 1996 13:5010
>          <<< Note 52.3552 by LANDO::OLIVER_B "it's about summer!" >>>

>   and the older, roundish
>   woman who took them in after the dad died - she was a 
>   hot ticket!

    yeah, i found myself thinking that it's the actors/actresses such
    as her (she?) who really deserve the awards.  very, very convincing.
 
    i just _love_ rickman's voice. 
52.3554SCASS1::BARBER_AI caught the moon todayWed Jul 03 1996 13:533
    .3550 "Heinekin?!?!  F' THAT!  PABST BLUE RIBBON!!"
    
    8)
52.3555SALEM::DODAA little too smart for a big dumb townWed Jul 03 1996 13:559
Saw "Bridges of Madison County" again the other night.

Streep was worthy of an Academy Award for the performance she 
gave in that movie.

I'll also recommend "A Walk in the Clouds" with Keanu Reeves as 
well.

daryll
52.3556Pabst? ugh...SALEM::DODAA little too smart for a big dumb townWed Jul 03 1996 13:560
52.3557PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 03 1996 13:566
>I'll also recommend "A Walk in the Clouds" with Keanu Reeves as 
>well.

	8-[  

52.3558SCASS1::BARBER_AI caught the moon todayWed Jul 03 1996 13:591
    .3556 It's a line from the movie.
52.3559Oh, nevermind...SALEM::DODAA little too smart for a big dumb townWed Jul 03 1996 14:001
52.3560BUSY::SLABOUNTYCatch you later!!Wed Jul 03 1996 14:165
    
    	RE: .3557
    
    	Are you still on your anti-Keanu crusade?
    
52.3561SCASS1::BARBER_AI caught the moon todayWed Jul 03 1996 14:211
    Keanu is a babe.
52.3562PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jul 03 1996 14:258
    
>    	Are you still on your anti-Keanu crusade?

    he can't act and he's nothing to look at.  other than
    that, he's the best thing since pantyhose.  really.

    

52.3563BUSY::SLABOUNTYCatch you later!!Wed Jul 03 1996 14:353
    
    	OK, good to hear that you're finally coming around.
    
52.3564RUSURE::GOODWINWotsa magnesia? Howdya milk it?Wed Jul 03 1996 14:557
    Rented CASINO last weekend.  Great movie.  On the surface it probably
    seems like the usual mafia bad guy stuff in a slightly different
    setting, but after living in Atlantic City for a couple of years
    recently and working in casinos on their slot machine computer systems,
    the movie was like being right back there again -- not only the
    surroundings but the attitudes of the people.  They really captured it
    accurately.  Glad I'm back in New England now.
52.3565CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowThu Jul 04 1996 20:299


 Saw Independance Day...a fun movie, quite a few chuckles, and great special
 effects.  Kinda campy and loaded with cliches, but worth the $$ and time.



 Jim
52.3566DPE1::ARMSTRONGThu Jul 04 1996 22:487
> Saw Independance Day...a fun movie, quite a few chuckles, and great special
> effects.  Kinda campy and loaded with cliches, but worth the $$ and time.

    how young might it be appropriate for?
    its rated PG13, but I'ld love to take my star trek loving
    10 yr old.
    bob
52.3567MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Jul 05 1996 00:054
Just watched Species.

I'll give it a thumbs up.

52.3568POLAR::RICHARDSONI shower naked, man. NAKED!Fri Jul 05 1996 06:4611
    Well, I watched Casino tonight. That's it. I've had it with mob movies.
    I won't watch another mob movie again. The Joe Pesci gratuitous
    violence has become a joke. Now I know why they make fun of him on
    Saturday Night Live now with that talk show were he ends up beating up
    his guests with a baseball bat etc. How many more versions of this do
    you need to see? 

    Everyone gets greedy. Everyone gets whacked. Except for the guy with
    his head in the vice, he got his eyes popped out.
    
    This movie is depressing. I give it a two prozacs down. {gulp}
52.3569CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowFri Jul 05 1996 12:3917
>> Saw Independance Day...a fun movie, quite a few chuckles, and great special
>> effects.  Kinda campy and loaded with cliches, but worth the $$ and time.

  >  how young might it be appropriate for?
  >  its rated PG13, but I'ld love to take my star trek loving
  >  10 yr old.
  

     I don't think it any worse than any of the star trek/star wars
     films..a couple emotionally intense moments, but other than that
     I don't think it would be a problem for a 10 year old..there were
     many kids younger than that when I saw it.



 Jim
52.3570CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowFri Jul 05 1996 12:4013



 .3568


  I agree with Mr. Richardson.  In fact, as much as I enjoy Goodfellas,
  I'm not sure I can watch it again.



 Jim
52.3571USAT02::HALLRFri Jul 05 1996 12:593
    saw big again for the prolly 5th time...the genius of Hanks is amazing,
    plus surrounding himself w/great costars and excellent scripts won't
    hurt you, either
52.3572POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeFri Jul 05 1996 13:005
    
    I really enjoyed that movie.
    
    Good morning, Ronnie 8^).
    
52.3573USAT02::HALLRFri Jul 05 1996 13:024
    good morning Mz. deb....I just had one too,  the chocolate is still on
    my fingers, so excuse me 4 a moment....
    
    did ya have a bangup 4th?
52.3574POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeFri Jul 05 1996 13:063
    
    See 11.16654 8^)!
    
52.3578MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Sun Jul 07 1996 00:4216
More movies recently watched -

The American President - good concept, not a bad movie, some nice performances,
   but it's too bad that that leftist leaning jerk Rob Reiner had to slant
   it politically in such a way as to make the Conservatives the bad guys, etc.
   2 outta 5.

The Net - good action, not a bad job on hanging things together but vastly
   unbelieveable in some respects (how many people don't know more than a 
   handful of people who can vouch for their identity?)
   4 outta 5.

Jumanji - Great Movie!!!!! I had more fun watching that than just about anything
   I've seen in the last five years! It certainly had The Phantom beat, for 
   example.
   5 outta 5.
52.3579Dead Man WalkingFABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jul 07 1996 10:408
    

    	Dead Man Walking - thought provoking. I watched it with some
    trepidation as I thought the movie might be anti-cp, but it remained
    fairly neutral (maybe leaning a bit towards anti). Enjoyable anyway.



52.3580SALEM::DODAA little too smart for a big dumb townMon Jul 08 1996 10:483
I'll take Reservoir Dogs as my favorite mob movie.

daryll
52.3581BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amMon Jul 08 1996 13:0913
| <<< Note 52.3562 by PENUTS::DDESMAISONS "person B" >>>


| he can't act 

	I will give you this....

| and he's nothing to look at.  

	I can't agree with this. :-)



52.3582SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerMon Jul 08 1996 14:336
    Saw "Independence Day".  Loved the special effects.  Had problems
    with plot holes.   Not enough for me to say don't go, it's a great
    ride, but enough that I was happy I went to a reduced price matinee.....
    
    I'd put it in the same category as "Twister".  BTW I was also
    the only person who wasn't thrilled with it in the group of us who went.
52.3583BULEAN::BANKSMon Jul 08 1996 14:395
ID4: Long on special effects, short on plot.  Technical details were
laughable.  A few memorable lines, and watching the treatment of LA was
enough to warm my heart.

You too will believe that fire trucks can fly.
52.3584CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Jul 08 1996 14:495


  Ah, buy a ticket, check reality at the door and have fun..that's what I liked
  about it..heck, MST 3k will have fun with it years from now..
52.3585COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Jul 08 1996 14:5210
As was pointed out on the news last night, the writers must count on most
people either being total idiots or simply not expecting much from Hollyweird.

The most laughable thing is the geek saving the day by connecting his laptop's
faxmodem to the computer on the alien mothership.  Even though the two were
made light years apart, somehow their communications software is compatible!

(I think that must mean that Bill Gates is really an alien spy in disguise!)

/john
52.3586BULEAN::BANKSMon Jul 08 1996 14:535
Apropos to nothing in particular:

Between Twister and ID4, there seems to be some current fascination among
special effects guys of flinging very large ground based vehicles through
the air.  Coincidence or Conspiracy?  You decide...
52.3587BULEAN::BANKSMon Jul 08 1996 14:546
.3585:

Hey, I wasn't gonna do a spoiler like that, but now that you started it:

My thought at the time was "Good thing the Chigs are running TCP/IP."  This
a guess, 'cause an OSI link woulda taken a lot longer to configure.
52.3588SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerMon Jul 08 1996 15:1616
    re: .3587
    
    Spoiler alert:
    
    
    I warned you......
    
    
    No username?  No password?  Light years ahead of us and
    NO system security?  No virus detection software?
    
    I'm sitting in the theater saying, "Negotiating with HOST?
    You shouldn't even be TALKING to the host!!?"
    
    And what happened to all those little ships?
    
52.3589JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jul 08 1996 15:269
    There were several potholes like the ones mentioned by Mary in .3587,
    i.e.,
    **spoiler alert**
    
    
    in 40 years their little ships hadn't upgraded.  I mean come on the
    ship in area 51 was over 40 years old.
    
    
52.3590PukeramaJULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jul 08 1996 15:2912
    Saw Nutty Professor... it was disgusting.  One of the worse pieces of
    trash movies I've ever seen.  The only thing at all interesting was the
    visuals of Professor Klump blowing up and out.
    
    It is not a movie for kids imo.  Although mine went with me.  My
    youngest son asked me to leave the movie as he understood its vulgarity
    rather well, he's only 9.
    
    The worse line in the whole movie is by the grandmother at the table
    talking about lesbians.  At least my boys didn't understand that one.
    
    Nancy
52.3591WMOIS::CONNELLStory does that to us.Mon Jul 08 1996 16:0219
    ID4. I agree with the others on being short on plot. Fair to good
    action adventure. Atrocious as Science Fiction. Quite funny in spot.
    
    spoiler alert (sort of)
    
    
    Jeff Goldblum's character's Powerbook (or whatever it is) saying "Good
    Morning, Dave" when he powered up. Only half of us in the theatre got
    the reference.
    
    Once again, I'm in absolute stitches over Brent Spiner's comedy. Not as
    low key as when he was playing Data. More like the guest role that he
    reprised twice on Night Court. There he was an over-the-top poor
    Tennesean lost in the big city. In ID4 he was a nutty professor (pun
    intended). The Sixties were realy good to him. :-)
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ
52.3592JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jul 08 1996 16:081
    Okay what's the Dave reference?  Odyssey movie?
52.3593NQOS01::s_coghill.dyo.dec.com::S_CoghillLuke 14:28Mon Jul 08 1996 16:1916
RE:

>    Jeff Goldblum's character's Powerbook (or whatever it is) saying "Good
>    Morning, Dave" when he powered up. Only half of us in the theatre got
>    the reference.

Only two of us laughed in our theater.  Even my 14 yr-old son (who has seen 
2001/2010 at least 5 times) didn't catch it.

RE: No computer security

I don't know.  This was supposed to be a "hive" society.  No individual 
motivation.  A hive society would need no security against internal intrusion.  If 
these aliens had not encountered any other planets that had developed computers, 
then I could see them not having any computer security.  They would not develop 
defenses against attacks that they could not envision.
52.3594JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jul 08 1996 16:252
    The entire theatre laughed at the Dave reference.  I saw it in Silicon
    Valley. :-)
52.3595SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerMon Jul 08 1996 17:138
    re: .3594
    
    I was the only one in the theater who laughed.  Talked about
    sinking in the chair..... :-)
    
    I saw it in upstate NY.
    
    
52.3596JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jul 08 1996 17:253
    .3595
    
    Been there... it is embarassing.
52.3597MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Mon Jul 08 1996 17:255
>    I was the only one in the theater who laughed.
>    I saw it in upstate NY.

HEY! That's not very nice!

52.3598CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulMon Jul 08 1996 17:295
    
    	Also not nice are the notes in this string without spoiler
    	alerts.
    
    	
52.3599POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeMon Jul 08 1996 17:333
    
    I want to see _Harriet The Spy_.
    
52.3600BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amMon Jul 08 1996 17:345
| <<< Note 52.3596 by JULIET::MORALES_NA "Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze" >>>

| Been there... it is embarassing.

	What's so embarrassing about upstate NY? :-)
52.3601SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerMon Jul 08 1996 17:387
    re: .3597
    
    Hey!  It's not my fault!!! :-)  Keith didn't get it and neither
    did Chris.  I figured Chris would at least.  I felt really, really
    stupid......
    
    
52.3602BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Mon Jul 08 1996 17:407
    
    	Deb, why do you want to see "Harriet the Spy"?
    
    	No offense [well, not TOO much, anyways 8^)], but I saw some
    	sort of preview for it yesterday [SHOWTIME?] and it doesn't
    	look very good to me.
    
52.3603JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Jul 08 1996 17:4010
    >spoiler alerts.
    
    Karen, 
    
    I thought at first glance this said "speller alerts" ....
    
    rotfl
    
    
    
52.3604POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeMon Jul 08 1996 17:433
    
    I read the book when I was a child and I just want to see it, so there.
    
52.3605BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Mon Jul 08 1996 17:453
    
    	It'll have to do, I guess.
    
52.3606POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeMon Jul 08 1996 17:574
    
    Admit it, you want to see it too.
    
    
52.3607BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Mon Jul 08 1996 18:019
    
    	Hey, if I can admit to seeing [and liking] "The Jerky Boys
    	Movie" the other night, I can admit anything.
    
    	But I DON'T want to see "Harriet the Spy", unless it's the
    	sort of movie that spans a 10-year segment of Harriet's life
    	and ends when Hugh Hefner discovers her and features her as
    	"Miss September".
    
52.3608NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Jul 08 1996 18:253
>    I thought at first glance this said "speller alerts" ....

Watch out for me and my buddies.
52.3609WMOIS::CONNELLStory does that to us.Mon Jul 08 1996 19:1911
    Mary-Michael, you should have felt like the smartest one in there. If
    the rest of the audience couldn't get the reference, then they either
    don't see a whole lot of movies, or have very little retention. (except
    maybe ana... nope, won't say it :-) ) 
    
    BTW M-M. I made it to Arethusa Falls finally, thanks for directions and
    pointers. (But that's another topic in another NOTESFILE)
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ
52.3610say it, shawn, and i'll take it to personnel...:>GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheMon Jul 08 1996 19:5310
    >>If the rest of the audience couldn't get the reference, then they
    >>either don't see a whole lot of movies, or have very little retention.
    
    
    well, i have seen plenty of movies in my time, and have pretty good
    retention, and i still don't know what the 'dave' reference is
    referring to...
    
    
    
52.3611FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 08 1996 20:158
    
    
    	re: .3610
    
    	I don't understand the reference either raq, and my MIL owns a
    video store (I get rentals for free). 
    
    
52.3612NETRIX::thomasThe Code WarriorMon Jul 08 1996 20:163

"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."
"Sorry, Dave, I can't do that."
52.3613FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 08 1996 20:174
    
    	Hit me harder, I still don't get it.
    
    
52.3614PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jul 08 1996 20:204
   think Strauss.
    

52.3615SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Jul 08 1996 20:202
    Jim, it's an exchange from 2001: A Space Odyssey - Hal, the ship's
    computer, is no longer obeying Dave, the sole surviving astronaut.
52.3616If you haven't seen it, see it....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Jul 08 1996 20:258
    Arthur C. Clark (the last "e" left off in your and Dan Quayl's honor")
    2001 : A Space Oddessy
    
    http://www.math.uic.edu/~mburk/2001.html
    
    They type of movie I went to see when I was 10.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3617Dave CommentSTRATA::BARBIERIMon Jul 08 1996 20:254
      Yeah, the computer HAL talking to Dave in 2001 A Space Odyssey
      which by the way seems to have been so ahead of its time.
    
      						
52.3618Probably not good to get a company logo into these movies....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Jul 08 1996 20:418
    
    Maybe it's just me, but in 2001, Frank and Dave are using a wonderful
    multimedia web notebook - no keyboard - and voice recognition of course.
    
    But by 2010, Heywood is using an Apple Powerbook - with trackball and
    keyboard.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3619GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Mon Jul 08 1996 20:431
    2001?
52.3620WMOIS::CONNELLStory does that to us.Mon Jul 08 1996 20:595
    It's in your future. (but in my past)
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ(Who is off on an odyssey)
52.3621FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 08 1996 22:348
    
    
    	Thanks gents. Of all the movies I've watched (a bunch) I've never
    seen 2001. I'll be sure to check it out this week.
    
    	cheers,
    
    	jim
52.3622MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Tue Jul 09 1996 02:305
>    They type of movie I went to see when I was 10.

Krimminey, William - yer makin' me feel old again. I was already a kollidge
guy when it was introduced to the thee-ate-ers.

52.3623FWIWSALEM::DODAA little too smart for a big dumb townTue Jul 09 1996 12:044
I saw Keir Dullea a couple years ago with Bonnie Franklin in 
"Love Letters" at the American Stage Festival in Milford NH.

daryll
52.3624When you and I saw 2001, Jim was not yet born....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Jul 09 1996 12:279
|Krimminey, William - yer makin' me feel old again. I was already a kollidge
|guy when it was introduced to the thee-ate-ers.
    
    I also went to see Chitty Chitty Bang Bang that year too.
    And I liked it.
    
    Wonder if Jim Sadin has ever seen Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3625FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 12:3012
    
    
    	Yep, I've seen Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. :*)
    
    	Chitty chitty bang bang we love you!
    	Hey, ho, chitty chitty bang bang
    	chitty chitty bang bang we love you!
    
    	ah...the mammories...errr..memories...:)
    
    
    jim
52.3626PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jul 09 1996 12:312
  .3621  With any luck, you have a good sound system, James.
52.3627FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 12:336
    
    
    	I have a stereo TV (Sony). It's ok for most stuff. 2001 have a good
    audio track?
    
    jim
52.3628PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jul 09 1996 12:357
    
>    2001 have a good
>    audio track?

	No, I was just seeing if you had a good sound system.  Thought
	maybe I'd steal it one of these days.  You know.

52.3629When cows fly....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Jul 09 1996 12:5310
    BTW, 2001 on a little screen *just* will not be the same as in a movie
    theater.
    
    (Also, 2001 was one of the big "special effects" movies of its day. 
    Back when a "special effect" was for plot.  Not like today, when a
    "special effect" is "I gotta idea, can you make a cow go by?" "Like,
    sure, dude, no problem, man."  "Awesome."  That a cow fly-by is the
    most memorable scene from a movie says something.)
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3631You call this 'entertainment'NPSS::MCSKEANEStranger in a stranger land!!!!Tue Jul 09 1996 12:565
Watched Casino last night. Story line wasn't bad but the film was far too
brutal for me. Some of the violence scenes were way over the top.

POL
52.3632FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 13:0310
    
    	re: di
    
    	I knew it! ;*)
    
    	re: bill
    
    	errr...when's the next showing at the theater? :)
    
    jim
52.3633MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Tue Jul 09 1996 13:5017
    Jim:
    
    You lie!  Why do you lie???
    
         Z   Chitty chitty bang bang we love you!
         Z   Hey, ho, chitty chitty bang bang
         Z   chitty chitty bang bang we love you!
    
    This is incorrect.  It goes...
    
    Oh..you...pretty Chitty Bang Bang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang we love
    you...and...you...Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang loves
    is to...High...Low...Everywhere we go on Chitty Chitty we depend...
    Bang Bang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang...Our fine four fendered friend...
    Bang Bang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang...our fine four fendered friend...
    
    You liar...you didn't really see Chitty Chitty did you???
52.3634GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Tue Jul 09 1996 14:2213
    RE: ID4
    
    Technical Schmectical, It was great fun!
     
    >The most laughable thing is the geek saving the day by connecting his
    >laptop's faxmodem to the computer on the alien mothership.  Even though 
    >the two were made light years apart, somehow their communications software 
    >is compatible!
    
    They did make an attempt at explaining how they did this when
    Goldberg's Character explained that the aliens were using earth's
    satellites for inter-spacecraft communication. He just reversed the
    process. Far out, but plausible. 
52.3635CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Jul 09 1996 14:325
    Broken Arrow.  Okay for a rental watch, nothing more or less.  No
    surprises, no real humdinger action sequences (IMO), just okay.  Glad I
    missed it at the theater.  
    
    Going to ID4 tonight, hopefully.
52.3636CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulTue Jul 09 1996 14:416
    
    	Agreed.  It started out promising, but fizzled in the
    	second half.
    
    	Karen
    
52.3637CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulTue Jul 09 1996 14:429
    
    	Thanks, Tom, for carrying the spoiler through to another
    	note.  In case I managed to not fully read it the first
    	time, ya know ?
    
    	BTW, it's Goldblum.
    
    	nnttm
    
52.3638PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jul 09 1996 14:545
>    	Agreed.  It started out promising, but fizzled in the
>    	second half.

	you said it, babycakes.

52.3639SALEM::DODAA little too smart for a big dumb townTue Jul 09 1996 15:059
           
>    	Agreed.  It started out promising, but fizzled in the
>    	second half.

	We're still talking movies here right?

        daryll


52.3640BUSY::SLABOUNTYConsume feces and expire.Tue Jul 09 1996 15:145
    
    	RE: .3623
    
    	Bonnie Franklin is still around??
    
52.3641SALEM::DODAA little too smart for a big dumb townTue Jul 09 1996 15:173
She was a couple years ago. It was a great performance btw...

daryll
52.3642Indigestion DayAMN1::RALTOJail to the ChiefTue Jul 09 1996 15:3022
    We went to see ID4 last night... five minutes into the movie (heck,
    not even five minutes), my oldest kid utters the seven dreaded words
    that make all parents' blood run cold:  I Feel Like I'm Gonna Throw Up.
    
    So much for ID4 and thirty bucks.  At least I got to see that Fox is
    still using some of the ubiquitous "control system units" (i.e., flashing
    colored lights and buttons) that were first seen (by me, anyway) in the
    1966 series "The Time Tunnel".  In ID4 they're in the first scene at the
    Pentagon (or wherever the first scene with the military guys takes place).
    
    As for being the only one laughing in a theater, I had that experience
    recently at the Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater at Disney/MGM studios, and it
    went on for the better part of an hour.  I got so exasperated that at
    one point I wanted to jump out of my "car", run up to the screen, face
    the audience and yell out "C'MON PEOPLE, GET WITH THE PROGRAM!  THIS IS
    *** FUNNY STUFF *** !!!"  Augh.
    
    And, "Harriet the Spy", eh?  I'd go see it if it was an action-adventure
    following Harriet Nelson's secret CIA exploits following the death of
    her mild-mannered husband Ozzie.
    
    Chris
52.3643BUSY::SLABOUNTYConsume feces and expire.Tue Jul 09 1996 15:359
    
    	No, Chris, Harriet is about 10 and she just sort of snoops
    	around with a notebook and a pair of binoculars and writes
    	down everything she sees, like:
    
    	Man wearing raincoat
    	Dog on leash
    	Girl on leash
    
52.3644POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeTue Jul 09 1996 15:363
    
    Stop that.
    
52.3645BUSY::SLABOUNTYConsume feces and expire.Tue Jul 09 1996 15:404
    
    	Ummm, well, believe it or not, "girl on leash" was taken dir-
    	ectly from the preview I saw the other day.
    
52.3646POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeTue Jul 09 1996 15:423
    
    Take it to 748 8^).
    
52.3647ACISS1::BATTISChicago Bulls-1996 world champsTue Jul 09 1996 15:465
    
    saw Braveheart and leaving Las Vegas this past weekend. Braveheart
    was excellent. Mel Gibson was great. Leaving Las Vegas was a very dark
    movie. Elizabeth Shue was very good, but Cage was great. I want to see
    Casino and Dead Man Walking next.
52.3648BUSY::SLABOUNTYConsume feces and expire.Tue Jul 09 1996 16:007
    
    	RE: Deb
    
    	Oops, now I see what you mean.  Those 3 "sightings" didn't
    	necessarily happen all at the same time, I just happened to
    	list them 1 after another.
    
52.3649Get BoredSWAM1::MEUSE_DATue Jul 09 1996 20:067
    
    rented "Get Shorty" and decided I'm sick of mob type characters
    and John Travolta.
    
    a bore.
    
                      
52.3650LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Tue Jul 09 1996 20:111
    me too.
52.3651ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealTue Jul 09 1996 20:312
    
    Oph, are you saying your a bore?
52.3652LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Tue Jul 09 1996 20:331
    probably that to.
52.3653POWDML::HANGGELIHeartless JadeTue Jul 09 1996 20:333
    
    {titter}
    
52.3654Music In 2001STRATA::BARBIERITue Jul 09 1996 21:2111
    re: .3627
    
    I am not sure of the quality of the audio track, but the music 
    itself is really good.  Its a piece called Sprach Zarathustra
    by (I think) Tchaikowski.
    
    If you see it, you'll definitely know when it'll be a good time
    to blast your stereo.  Part of the musical score would definitely
    test a lot of system's low end too.
    
    						Tony
52.3655COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Jul 09 1996 21:365
52.3656DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Jul 09 1996 21:4116
Jim,

More than any other film I know, 2001 will suffer on the small screen. The 
original Cinerama version was (I think) three 70mm projectors side by side,
an aspect ratio around 4 to 1, with a huge wrap-around screen. Seeing it on
ordinary 35mm theatres was a major reduction, and on TV, you really lose a
lot.

Here in Seattle, there is still a revival theatre where it shows up
occasionally. If you have one in your area, and you're serious about your
science fiction, you really owe it to yourself to see it in at least 35mm.
It is a landmark film in a class by itself.

Did I mention that I like 2001?

-bcl
52.3657FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 23:016
    
    
    	I wonder if the ELM in worcester will show it? Hmmm...
    
    
    jim
52.3658CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowWed Jul 10 1996 03:359


  I must have seen 2001 20 times when it first came out..brownies came in
 quite handy back then..



 Jim
52.3659MFGFIN::EPPERSONI saw a chicken with two headsWed Jul 10 1996 03:451
    Wilder days revisited?
52.3660THEMAX::SMITH_SI (neuter) my (catbutt)Wed Jul 10 1996 03:471
    And just what was in those brownies?
52.3661JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Jul 10 1996 04:175
    .3660
    
    
    Well I'm sure knowing Jimbo the way I do it wasn't weed!  It was
    probably the gold. :-)
52.3662GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheWed Jul 10 1996 12:215
    
    isn't the 'elm' in millbury, not worcester???
    
    
    
52.3663CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Jul 10 1996 12:262
    It's in neither place.  The Elms are in Millbury, however.  hth, nnttm,
    etc.
52.3664GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheWed Jul 10 1996 12:294
    
    that's what i said...
    
    
52.3665FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Jul 10 1996 12:365
    
    
    	Oh, ok. :*)
    
    
52.3666CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Jul 10 1996 12:391
    Uh, uh, uh.  Check again.  It's splitting hairs but I'll take it. :-)
52.3667BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Jul 10 1996 13:146
    
    	What is/are "The Elms"?
    
    	The Elm Draught House is a movie theater, and it IS in Mill-
    	bury.
    
52.3668BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Jul 10 1996 13:146
    
    	RE: .3661
    
    	Nancy, knowing what Jim USED to be like, I'm not so sure it
    	WASN'T.  8^)
    
52.3669SCASS1::BARBER_AI caught the moon todayWed Jul 10 1996 13:221
    Wine me, dine me, 
52.3670WAHOO::LEVESQUEit seemed for all of eternityWed Jul 10 1996 13:251
    intertwine me? =8^o
52.3671SCASS1::BARBER_AI caught the moon todayWed Jul 10 1996 13:373
    cute!
    
    ...and thanks for not yelling at me.  8)
52.3672CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowWed Jul 10 1996 13:375
>    And just what was in those brownies?


     I forgot.
52.3673ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQWed Jul 10 1996 14:072
Elm Draughthouse Cinema fans might like "The Last Strand", High St., Clinton,
MA.  Same sort of format, a little classier, and no smoking in this one...
52.3674MFGFIN::E_WALKERI (rake) my (hamster)Wed Jul 10 1996 22:524
        "Independence Day" - one of the top ten movies of all times. The
    actors were miscast, lines were terrible, and everything had been
    recycled from other movies. Somehow, it all fit in perfectly. Five
    stars. 
52.3675CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowThu Jul 11 1996 04:3110


 rented Mighty Aphrodite tonight..I love Woody Allen movies (most all of them)
 and this one didn't disappoint..




 Jim
52.3676WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Jul 11 1996 10:482
re; Independence Day... i just can't picture the Fresh Prince of BelAir shooting
down alien spacecraft in a dogfight. sorry.
52.3677WAHOO::LEVESQUEbon marcher, as far as she can tellThu Jul 11 1996 11:211
    Why is Independence Day known as ID4? Where's the 4 come from?
52.3678PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Jul 11 1996 12:262
  .3677  burning question of the day
52.3679ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealThu Jul 11 1996 12:563
    
    well, my guess is that Independence Day fall s on the 4th of July.
    but what do i know.
52.3680WAHOO::LEVESQUEbon marcher, as far as she can tellThu Jul 11 1996 13:142
    well that would be rather redundant, wouldn't you say? Rather like
    saying New Years Day => NYD1. Like NSS.
52.3681ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealThu Jul 11 1996 13:162
    
    well, you asked, i answered.
52.3682WAHOO::LEVESQUEbon marcher, as far as she can tellThu Jul 11 1996 13:2720
    I had a feeling it was about that dopey. Thanks for the confirmation.
    Think I'll wait til it comes out on video, if that's indicative of the
    level of thought that went into the movie. On the other hand, it was
    probably some marketing dweeb's idea.
    
     Which reminds me of a recent Dilbert (calendar) strip.
    
    "Dogbert's Seminar on Management Zombies"
    
     Dogbert: The successful zombie knows how to squash teh creativity of
    co-workers.
    
     Dogbert: When you hear a new idea, adopt a facial expression which
    conveys both fear and an utter lack of comprehension. <points to
    picture of such an expression on a poster board>
    
     Dogbert: Thos of you who work in marketing only need to add the fear
    part.
    
     Management Zombie from Marketing: Why is that?
52.3683ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealThu Jul 11 1996 14:083
    
    doc, the scary thing about Dilbert, is that I see it everyday at work.
    probably even more so out east I would imagine.
52.3684CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowThu Jul 11 1996 14:1511
>    Why is Independence Day known as ID4? Where's the 4 come from?


  I am so happy that someone asked this question as it has been bugging me
 for a while, 'cept I didn't want to be the one to ask..I eagerly anticipate
 the answer as I wade deeper into this topic.



 Jim
52.3685The InterNet will rule our lives...COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Jul 11 1996 14:2311
52.3686WAHOO::LEVESQUEbon marcher, as far as she can tellThu Jul 11 1996 14:362
    And Lord knows typing IndependenceDay is beyond the ability of the
    target audience...
52.3687COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Jul 11 1996 14:523
That already belongs to National Internet Source, Inc., of Ramsey, NJ.

/john
52.3688JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Jul 11 1996 15:191
    July 4th - Independence Day .... gee even I got that one. :-)
52.3689WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Jul 11 1996 15:432
my question is... that we've got dopey and Doc located where the hell
are the other 5 characters and the tramp they live with?
52.3690GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Thu Jul 11 1996 16:053
    >I love Woody Allen movies
    
    You must have missed "Bullets Over Broadway".  :)  
52.3691And I liked "Bullets Over Broadway"....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftThu Jul 11 1996 16:1110
    
    Back to the discussion of laughing at the movies when nobody else gets
    the geek jokes....  (Like the book shelves, "Virtual Realty", and
    Luxo-Jr. in Toy Story.)
    
    
    Way back when, we saw "Annie Hall" in Toronto.  Erica and I were the
    only ones laughing for most of the movie.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3692PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Jul 11 1996 16:1710
>        <<< Note 52.3675 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Every knee shall bow" >>>

> rented Mighty Aphrodite tonight..I love Woody Allen movies (most all of them)
> and this one didn't disappoint..

	It would have been worth the rental to me even if just to
	hear that superb recording, during the final credits, of
	B. Goodman ("Whispering", was it?).  I listened to it about
	5 times.  Woody has excellent taste in music, imho.
 
52.3693ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealThu Jul 11 1996 16:202
    
    chip, who is dopey?
52.3694GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheThu Jul 11 1996 16:381
    dopey was mentioned in one of the doc(tah)'s recent notes...
52.3695ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealThu Jul 11 1996 17:082
    
    thanks
52.3696CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowThu Jul 11 1996 20:3810
    
>    You must have missed "Bullets Over Broadway".  :)  


    Loved it!




 JIm
52.3697CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowThu Jul 11 1996 20:3916
>	It would have been worth the rental to me even if just to
>	hear that superb recording, during the final credits, of
>	B. Goodman ("Whispering", was it?).  I listened to it about
>	5 times.  Woody has excellent taste in music, imho.
 

      Yes!  I love his movies as much for the music as anything else..in
      fact, I want to see if I can find a copy of the soundtrack to
      Mighty Aphrodite..Hannah and her Sisters also had wonderful music.




 Jim

52.3698LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Thu Jul 11 1996 20:432
    i'm so out of it i didn't even know mighty afrotidy
    was an allen film!
52.3699MFGFIN::E_WALKERFri Jul 12 1996 05:0710
       re.3682
    
         No, no, ID4 is one of those movies you have to see in a theater,
    with a large crowd. It is about as dopey as a 1950's martian attack
    flick, but that's the great thing about it. Would anyone really prefer
    that the complete destruction of the United States be taken seriously?
    But then again, judging by the comments from this crowd, you people
    would rather see Woody Allen movies. What's wrong with people these
    days? When I pay my $3.25, I expect to see explosions, carnage, and
    strippers. ID4 delivers on all three. 
52.3700POLAR::RICHARDSONTime friesFri Jul 12 1996 05:155
    I sawer ID4 tonight and I was kind of disappointed.

    Twister was far more entertaining and impressive in my opinion.

    ID4 was very corny and predictable. A good teen flick.
52.3701BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amFri Jul 12 1996 12:515
| <<< Note 52.3700 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Time fries" >>>

| ID4 was very corny and predictable. A good teen flick.

	I take it you don't have a teen personality?
52.3702BUSY::SLABOUNTYAntisocialFri Jul 12 1996 14:058
    
    >Would anyone really prefer
    >that the complete destruction of the United States be taken seriously?
    
    
    	The Republicans would argue that that's exactly what has been
    	happening for the last 3.5 years.
    
52.3703killer thrillersSMURF::WALTERSFri Jul 12 1996 14:1712
    Watched "Seven", "Copycat" and "The Juror" over the last few days.
    "Copycat" was least enjoyable in spite of Hunter & Weaver who never
    seemed to develop any rapport during the whole movie.  I got the
    distinct sense that they were competing for a best actress nomination.
    "Seven" gets top marks for not dwelling on the blood and gore and thus
    allowing a bit of imagination on the part of the viewer.  "The Juror"
    was very patchy.  Over-the-top caricature mobsters IMHO, but the
    Baldwin clone's psycho was just right.  Demi Bra was so-so, and I
    thought that he buddy doctor played by (?) Hecht was very very good and
    stole Moore's thunder in a few scenes.   Some nice twists and turns,
    but again a bit heavy on the ketchup.   Someone will have to explain
    why Moore's butt keeps changing size.
52.3704MFGFIN::E_WALKEREdward S. WalkerSat Jul 13 1996 00:585
         I'm not trying to take anything away from "Twister" - it was also
    a great movie. It just wasn't ruthless enough. In fact, this has been
    the best summer for movies that I can remember. "The Rock" was another
    5 star film. I only hope that this big budget mayhem trend continues.
    
52.3705FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jul 14 1996 15:027
    
    
    	I saw "Killing Zoe" yesterday (from the makers of "Pulp Fiction").
    It was ok, but I don't think I'd watch it again. Nothing that memorable
    about the movie. 
    
    	jim
52.3706BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amMon Jul 15 1996 00:468
| <<< Note 52.3705 by FABSIX::J_SADIN "Freedom isn't free." >>>



| I saw "Killing Zoe" yesterday (from the makers of "Pulp Fiction"). It was ok, 
| but I don't think I'd watch it again. Nothing that memorable about the movie.

	It's so bad you spelt it wrong...
52.3707CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Jul 15 1996 02:3911
>	It's so bad you spelt it wrong...



  Oh, what a shame Andy K is no longer around.




 Jim
52.3708WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jul 15 1996 11:076
Couple of old, good movies this weekend... Marty and I Remember Mama.

We like to watch these oldies from time to time. Very pleasing and
relaxing.

I loved uncle Chris...
52.3709FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 15 1996 12:218
    
    re: .3706
    
    	what did I spell wrong? the name of the movie was "Killing Zoe".
    Said so right on the box....:)
    
    
    jim
52.3710BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amMon Jul 15 1996 12:243

	Is there a movie out now called Killing Zone? 
52.3711FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 15 1996 12:243
    
    
    Possibly, but that ain't the movie I watched. ;*)
52.3712SMURF::WALTERSMon Jul 15 1996 12:341
    "Leaving Las Vegas" and "Priest".   Pretty powerful, both of 'em.    
52.3713BIGQ::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amMon Jul 15 1996 12:483

	What's a priest doin in Las Vegas? Oh yeah.... leaving...
52.371435568::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealMon Jul 15 1996 14:153
    
    Colin, the scene at the pool was great. with the table and all, i
    thought Elizabeth played that very well.
52.3715CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Jul 15 1996 14:219

 Saturday night I watched "Hannah and her Sisters" and "Radio Days", a couple
 of my fave Woody Allen movies.




 Jim
52.3716LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Jul 15 1996 14:271
    i saw alfred hitchcock in ogunquit on sunday.
52.371738099::SILVAI'm out, therefore I amMon Jul 15 1996 14:284

	Hannah and her 5 sisters? (4 if you're the Simpson's, it's Hannah and
her 4 sisters)
52.3718CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulMon Jul 15 1996 14:567
    
    	Hey, I was in Ogunquit Sunday, but I didn't see Hitchcock!
    
    	Saw "Phenomenon" this weekend.  Funny, sad, and all around
    	enjoyable.
    
    
52.3719MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Jul 15 1996 14:584
    I took son to see Twister on Saturday.  Special effects were
    outstanding.  The only unbelievable part of course was the ending.  If
    the class 5 didn't tear their skin from their bones, the debris would
    have sandblasted them to a skeleton!
52.3720ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealMon Jul 15 1996 15:074
    
    .3716
    
    Oph, how did he look? I'm betting he looked rather thin.
52.3721Went to the Drive in ....BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Mon Jul 15 1996 15:2312
Saw the Hunchback. It felt like a combination of characters from Beauty and
the beast, aladin, and pocahantus. At least the kids liked it.

The Rock ... What a lousy movie ... Lousy story line, lousy plot, lousy
execution, and useless vulgarity, all combined with a few good performances
surrounded by other incompetent actors.

The directors of this piece of rubbish should be black listed ...
The producers were robbed ...

Doug.
52.3722LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Jul 15 1996 15:325
    .3720
    
    he was over by the clambake area at the Lobster Pound resto.
    he was checking things out.  it was the profile that was
    amazing.  the nose, the lips and chin, the belly.
52.3723thumb up or down...KDCA01::CDCUP_GREENEMon Jul 15 1996 15:324
    Anyone have a review for the movie "Dead Man Walking",
    I heard it was good, but that means anything.
    
    Chris
52.3724FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 15 1996 15:426
    
    
    	I'd give it a "thumbs up". Well thought out and well acted.
    
    
    jim
52.3725ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealMon Jul 15 1996 16:405
    
    .3723
    
    The man is to be executed in Louisiana, hence the title. Supposed
    to be very good.
52.3726LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Jul 15 1996 16:582
    in what movie did the code words "red rum" appear?  
    i think i know...jack nickolson starred in it...
52.3727EVER::GOODWINMon Jul 15 1996 16:593
    
    	the shining
    
52.3728LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Jul 15 1996 16:591
    yes!
52.3729LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Jul 15 1996 17:011
    nicholson.
52.3730ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealMon Jul 15 1996 17:032
    
    <------ here's johnny!!!!!!!!!!!
52.3731CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Jul 15 1996 17:0412


  Oliver Stone is preparing a biographical extravaganza on none
 other than Larry Flynt.

 One movie I know I'll never see.




 Jim
52.3732LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Jul 15 1996 17:091
    gee, another great american icon.
52.3733ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealMon Jul 15 1996 17:202
    
    well, they at least can't name it "The Hustler".
52.3734CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Jul 15 1996 17:2412
>    gee, another great american icon.


  Indeed.  I read something last week about his daughter who speaks of
 this victimless crime (pornography) describing how this icon repeatedly
 abused her sexually and was/is obsessed with pornography, having it displayed
 all over his house.



 Jim
52.3735fractured classics...GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseMon Jul 15 1996 17:4610
    
      Saturday while it rained I watched two rent-a-movies that are
     rehashes of classics with substantial artistic license : Richard III,
     which is Shakespeare spoken straight but in a 1940s motif; and the
     French (with English subtitles) Les Miserables, inevitably with
     Belmondo, Hugo brought forward to our century, but not straight,
     as it meanders back and forth in time.  Normally, I dislike artsy
     stuff, but these were actually not bad.
    
      bb
52.3736LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Jul 15 1996 18:461
    i watched Monkey Business.
52.3737RUSURE::GOODWINwe upped our standards now up yoursMon Jul 15 1996 19:052
    Went crazy this weekend and saw both Independence Day and Eraser.  Most
    fun I ever had fully clothed.
52.3738ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealMon Jul 15 1996 19:552
    
    <---- you need to get out more.
52.3739BUSY::SLABOUNTYDancin' on CoalsMon Jul 15 1996 19:584
    
    	If he'd said it was the most fun he's ever had naked, THEN I'd
    	have to worry.
    
52.3740RUSURE::GOODWINwe upped our standards now up yoursMon Jul 15 1996 20:521
    I *did* get out, and look what happened.  Maybe I need to stay in more?
52.3741POLAR::RICHARDSONCarboy JunkieMon Jul 15 1996 20:571
    Braggart!
52.3742RUSURE::GOODWINwe upped our standards now up yoursMon Jul 15 1996 21:341
    NOnononononono, that's not what I meant...  I wish, though...  :-)
52.3743MFGFIN::E_WALKEREdward S. WalkerTue Jul 16 1996 22:071
         How was "Eraser"? Haven't got around to seeing that one yet. 
52.3744RUSURE::GOODWINwe upped our standards now up yoursWed Jul 17 1996 12:232
    Aaaaahnold's best yet, IMO.  Tons of action, lots of fun, excellent
    ending...
52.3745Arnold's best = damning with faint praise?PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftWed Jul 17 1996 13:078
    
|   Aaaaahnold's best yet, IMO.
    
    Probably best enjoyed with a six pack, watching a handy waterproof
    TV/VRC combo, while navigating a clorox bottle full throttle through
    the harbor.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3746ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealWed Jul 17 1996 13:092
    
    <--- not exactle Citizen Kane, eh?
52.3747Oscar for "best erasure of bad guy" ?GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseWed Jul 17 1996 13:404
    
      I still think the crocodiles stole the show.
    
      bb
52.3748ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealWed Jul 17 1996 13:432
    
    <--- I'm waiting for a snappy comeback
52.3749GIDDAY::BURTInteresting timesWed Jul 17 1996 23:476
Took my son to see the Muppets Treasure Island movie t'other day.  Not bad, 
though Tim Curry looks odd without his fishnets.   He seems to have worn 
rather well over the years.
Jennifer Saunders and Billy Connolly were definite bonuses.

#C
52.3750Warning: Don't Watch ThisMFGFIN::E_WALKERI'm out of p-name ideasTue Jul 23 1996 01:107
         My TV suffered a terrible injury this weekend due to a pathetic
    movie called "The Babysitter". I had high expectations for this film
    but, about halfway through, I realized that I was in for a big
    disappointment. I proceeded to launch the TV halfway across the room
    and was preparing to finish it off with a shotgun when I got control of
    myself. Avoid this movie at all costs - it has absolutely no redeeming
    factors. 
52.3751FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 23 1996 11:137
    
    
    	You shoulda finished it off. That would have been the humane thing
    to do.
    
    
    
52.3752CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Jul 23 1996 14:3615
    Finally saw ID$ last night.  New theater in the Twin Cities, Cinema
    World proved to be quite a nice alternative to the SONY Megaplex,
    cheaper too.  Great sound, nice cushy seats that recline.  
    
    The movie was great.  I wasn't expecting great acting, deep plots, or
    anything other than pure entertainment.  I was not disappointed.  I may
    see it again which is quite rare for me.  I liked the character played
    by Brent Spiner.  Corny in spots but so what.  It was the most fun film
    to watch (for me) since the original Star Wars.  
    
    To add to the cinematic faux pas posted earlier, (no spolier alert
    needed),  The bar ends on Jeff Goldblum's mountain bike were on the wrong
    side and thus upside down.  
    
    Brian 
52.3753BUSY::SLABOUNTYGreat baby! Delicious!!Tue Jul 23 1996 14:396
    
    	RE: "The Babysitter"
    
    	Was that the Alicia Silverstone movie or the Stephanie Zimb-
    	alist movie?
    
52.3754LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Tue Jul 23 1996 14:411
    oh lord, you had to ask.
52.3755POLAR::RICHARDSONPerpetual GlennTue Jul 23 1996 14:421
    <--- Bonnie? You gettin' religion?
52.3756LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Tue Jul 23 1996 14:482
    won't you buy me
    a mercedes benz?
52.3757BUSY::SLABOUNTYGreat baby! Delicious!!Tue Jul 23 1996 14:495
    
    	RE: Bonnie
    
    	Somebody had to ask, and it might as well have been me.
    
52.3758ACISS1::BATTISFuture Chevy Blazer ownerTue Jul 23 1996 16:473
    
    Why it doesn't surprise me that Ed would watch a movie entitled 
    "The Babysitter". It's right up his alley, as it were.
52.3759BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROTue Jul 23 1996 16:528
    <<< Note 52.3752 by CONSLT::MCBRIDE "Idleness, the holiday of fools" >>>

>    Finally saw ID$ last night. 
                   ^

	Interesting typo. ;-)

Jim
52.3760ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQTue Jul 23 1996 17:136
Re: ID4
Saw it at the drive-in last Friday. Not only corny in spots, but
toungue-in-cheek in others. A couple of lines were stolen from "Airplane" and
"Jurassic Park". It was difficult to decide whether one or two big speeches
were meant to be funny or serious... I was waiting for the "Out of the way!
I'm a SCIENTIST!" line, but alas...
52.3761MFGFIN::E_WALKERI'm out of p-name ideasTue Jul 23 1996 21:085
    re.3753
    
         Alicia Silverstone. And she never got naked. The whole thing was a
    tease, and I hate that. That movie needed to come with a warning.
    
52.3762LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Tue Jul 23 1996 21:111
    you probably do too.
52.3763ACISS1::SCHELTERTue Jul 23 1996 21:125
    <--  too funny!
    
    
    Mike
    
52.3764MFGFIN::E_WALKERI'm out of p-name ideasTue Jul 23 1996 21:162
         Do what?!? What are you implying here, buddy?
    
52.3765BUSY::SLABOUNTYWe all, we all, love it - LOUD!!Tue Jul 23 1996 21:168
    
    	I think it should be illegal for Alicia Silverstone to appear
    	in a movie without getting naked.  Helen Hunt also.
    
    	What a travesty the motion picture industry has become, when
    	perfectly good female bodies are covered up for no apparent
    	reason.
    
52.3766MFGFIN::E_WALKERI'm out of p-name ideasTue Jul 23 1996 21:182
         Those big stars hardly ever get naked anymore, and if they do they
    use "body doubles". 
52.3767LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Tue Jul 23 1996 21:181
    doncha get it?
52.3768BUSY::SLABOUNTYWe all, we all, love it - LOUD!!Tue Jul 23 1996 21:193
    
    	No, Bonnie, I'm not married.
    
52.3769SCASS1::BARBER_Afollows instructionsTue Jul 23 1996 21:211
    Alicia Silverstone has NO body.  
52.3770MFGFIN::E_WALKERI'm out of p-name ideasTue Jul 23 1996 21:211
         I'd cut my right leg off with a dull circular saw just to get any. 
52.3771POLAR::RICHARDSONPerpetual GlennTue Jul 23 1996 21:244
    I like Ashley Judd.
    
    I liked her 5 years ago when she did a guest spot Star Trek TNG. Now
    she's a big star.
52.3772THEMAX::E_WALKERWhere's WaldoWed Jul 24 1996 00:393
         Oh, yeah. Wasn't she the evil sister of that one woman who got
    kicked off the show for appearing in Playboy? Those pictures weren't
    very good, by the way. 
52.3773POLAR::RICHARDSONPerpetual GlennWed Jul 24 1996 13:501
    Nope, she was just a young ensign who kept a long list of rules.
52.3774ACISS1::BATTISFuture Chevy Blazer ownerWed Jul 24 1996 14:202
    
    she the younger sister of Naomi Judd?
52.3775DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Wed Jul 24 1996 14:284
    
    
    	Daughter of Naomi, sister of Wynonna
    
52.3776ACISS1::BATTISFuture Chevy Blazer ownerWed Jul 24 1996 14:312
    
    <-- i was in the ballpark. yes, she is rather attractive.
52.3777BUSY::SLABOUNTYWhiplash!Wed Jul 24 1996 14:574
    
    	Battis, a female babboon would probably be considered attract-
    	ive to you if she'd only give you the time of day.
    
52.3778WAHOO::LEVESQUEyou don't love me, pretty babyWed Jul 24 1996 17:061
    baboon. /hth
52.3779BUSY::SLABOUNTYWine me, dine me, 2.33222^5 meWed Jul 24 1996 17:463
    
    	Ops ... sory.
    
52.3780SCASS1::BARBER_Afollows instructionsWed Jul 24 1996 17:503
    <<< Note 52.3779 by BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Wine me, dine me, 2.33222^5 me" >>>
    
    Wine me, dine me, 68.9997594 me?   What a tease!
52.378158379::RICHARDSONPerpetual GlennWed Jul 24 1996 18:001
    close, but no cigar, as it were.
52.3782ACISS2::LEECHThu Jul 25 1996 13:2657
    I watched a few movies during my vacation (vacation seems to be the
    only time I go to the theater...normally I wait for it to arrive at
    Blockbuster  8^) ).  I went to see Independence Day, Phenomenon,
    Eraser, and Courage Under Fire.  Of the three, I liked ID the best.  My 
    impressions:
    
    ID4: Never a dull moment.  From the opening line to close, there is
    always something keeping your attention.  The plot was uninvolved-
    simplistic even, but it worked for this particular movie (I found the
    problem solving Star Trek like in many ways...did Roddenberry have
    anything to do with this film?  8^) ).  
    
    I liked the mix of humor thrown in with the drama.  The special effects
    were, well, fantastic.
    
    The movie, IMO, was well worth the $4 I paid to see it.
    
    Phenomenon: A movie that doesn't spell everything out to you (you'll
    understand if you've seen it, if not, I'm not going to spoil it for
    you).  I really can't go into many details without spoiling it, so I
    won't.  A decent film, though.  Not your typical love story.
    
    One personaly nit (and a spoiler...hit <ret> twice to pass it by):
    
    I HATE sad endings.  
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Eraser:  If you can ignore the fact that all the bad guys are horrible
    shots, it isn't too bad escapist fare.  Lots of action and good special
    effects (the "rail" guns, especially).  Arnold is Arnold, and Ms.
    Williams looks very nice.  8^)  The allegators were a bit much, though.
    
    I went in expecting a typical Arnold movie and wansn't disappointed. 
    Personally, I like the action flicks like this.  There are no dull
    moments in this movie.
    
    Courage Under Fire: This movie tried to concentrate on two different
    things at the same time.  I thought one detracted from the other,
    personally, but that's my opinion.  The critics loved it, I didn't.  It
    wasn't a bad movie, don't get me wrong, just not my kind of movie.  I
    should have known that if the critics loved it so much, I wouldn't. 
    8^)
    
    Even though I wasn't thrilled with it, the movie did keep my interest. 
    There's enough carrots dangling to keep your mind into the movie.  8^)
                                    
52.3783WAHOO::LEVESQUEyou don't love me, pretty babyThu Jul 25 1996 13:341
    allegators?
52.3784Chomp! Blood, gore!COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Jul 25 1996 13:351
A useful tool in allegory.
52.3785SMURF::WALTERSThu Jul 25 1996 13:431
    < that was bloody good.
52.3786WAHOO::LEVESQUEyou don't love me, pretty babyThu Jul 25 1996 14:271
    allegedly
52.3787TROOA::BUTKOVICHdrink ale.... live lagerThu Jul 25 1996 15:4011
    love Tom Hanks doing the "there's no crying in baseball" bit in "A
    League of their Own"
    
    Almost as good in the same movie..... 
    
    When "Alice" makes the same mistake by not throwing to the cut-off man
    and Tom tells her to "work on it", gritting his teeth the whole time so
    he doesn't yell. Great body language.
    
    When he hits the obnoxious kid in the face with the baseball glove and
    then laughs gleefully.
52.3788BUSY::SLABDon't get even ... get odd!!Tue Jul 30 1996 15:195
    
    	There's a new "Tales from the Crypt" movie coming out soon:
    
    	"Bordello of Blood"
    
52.3789LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Tue Jul 30 1996 15:221
    can't wait for that one.
52.3790BUSY::SLABDon't get even ... get odd!!Tue Jul 30 1996 15:335
    
    	Sorry, Bonnie, but you're going to have to.
    
    	I will keep you updated, though.
    
52.3791MFGFIN::E_WALKERWhere's WaldoTue Jul 30 1996 20:153
         The first "Tales From the Crypt" movie was a big disappointment.
    But did anyone see the latest episode - the cartoon? It was hilarious,
    in a sick sort of way.
52.3792MFGFIN::E_WALKERFuture Chevy Blazer Car BomberThu Aug 01 1996 21:154
         Saw "Under Seige II" last night. Terrible movie, nowhere near as
    good as the first. No strippers, no Tommy Lee Jones, and very few
    fights. Lousy villians, lousy stunts, idiotic plot. Then I watched
    "Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers", which was at least sort of funny. 
52.3793JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Aug 01 1996 21:251
    Stupid is as stupid does.
52.3794MFGFIN::E_WALKERFuture Chevy Blazer Car BomberThu Aug 01 1996 21:331
         No, I didn't like "Forrest Gump" either. 
52.3795THEMAX::SMITH_SThu Aug 01 1996 21:354
    I watched "Leaving Las Vegas" last night.Twice.  I think if I wanted to
    end my life I would go out like he did. Except maybe with heroin. 
    Never done it but hey-millions of addicts can't be wrong.
    -ss
52.3796fine way to dieMFGFIN::EPPERSONI saw a chicken with two headsThu Aug 01 1996 21:421
    That show is one of my top 5 of the year.  Kicked ass. 
52.3797ACISS2::LEECHFri Aug 02 1996 13:451
    Why would you kick a donkey?
52.3798BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Fri Aug 02 1996 13:552
	Steve, would YOU pass up a chance at kicking a Democrat?
52.3799Tw Recent Movies - Liked Them BothSTRATA::BARBIERIMon Aug 05 1996 22:0811
      I finally saw Braveheart.  Man, I thought it was excellent!
      Who were the women by the way?  Who played his wife and who
      played the princess of England?  Excellent movie, imo.
    
      Lots of good parts.
    
      Also saw 12 Minkeys.  I liked that too.  Interesting thing
      about 12 Monkeys.  Their version of Time Travel was that you
      could not change the past.  That was kind of cool.  So they
      could go in the past, but it always happened and all they could
      do with their travel in the past was effect the future.
52.3800Mistypes - Oppurtunity for A QuestionSTRATA::BARBIERIMon Aug 05 1996 22:098
    re: -1
    
    Well, as usual I have a fair dose of mistypes.
    
    Title should read: TWO.
    
    By the way, I accidentally typed "minkeys."  Does that remind 
    any of you of any movie???
52.3801MILKWY::SLABGuess who??Mon Aug 05 1996 22:113
    
    	How does 1 affect the future without changing the past?
    
52.3802SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoMon Aug 05 1996 22:276
    >How does 1 affect the future without changing the past?
    
    one has a dreadfully inconsistent sense of from what perspective any
    period is labeled "future" or "past".
    
    DougO
52.3803TROOA::BUTKOVICHwell, tomorrow is another dayTue Aug 06 1996 01:4110
    saw "A Time to Kill" tonight.  Glad I wasn't disappointed - it's the
    only Grisham book I thought was really good and it was a decent
    adaptation.  Mathew McConaghey (sp??) - where is that most boinkable
    topic - whoohee!  I *cannot* believe this is the same actor who was in
    "Dazed and Confused" - totally unrecognizable as the same person. 
    Sandra Bullock was good and did her best not to let too many "aren't I
    cute" mannerisms get incorporated.  I kind of wondered why Ashley Judd
    was *always* hot and sweaty - she 'glistened' in every scene.  Kevin
    Spacey and Samuel Jackson were excellent as always.  The final
    summation in the courtroom was very well done.  Thumbs up.
52.3804TROOA::BUTKOVICHwell, tomorrow is another dayTue Aug 06 1996 01:447
    Oh yeah... also saw a couple of 'Coming Attractions'. Rene Russo has
    been a lucky/busy girl (working with Kevin Costner and then Mel
    Gibson).
    Hopefully "Tin Cup" will be as good as "Bull Durham".  And the second
    movie (with Mel) is called "Ransom" - it's being directed by Ron Howard
    and will be released sometime in November.  I can't wait - looks
    amazing. 
52.3805POLAR::RICHARDSONPerpetual GlennTue Aug 06 1996 04:062
    I watched 12 Monkeys last night. I honestly don't understand why it got
    such bad reviews. I was thoroughly entertained. My kind of movie.
52.380642333::LESLIEAndy Leslie | DTN 847 6586Tue Aug 06 1996 07:133
    I saw "Time Cop" on tv a few weeks back. Incosistent, illogical crap.
    
    Is twelve monkeys better?
52.3807BULEAN::BANKSTue Aug 06 1996 12:1210
.3805

I'm relatively gaga over any Gillium directed movie.  12 Monkeys had
probably the most inspired looney hatch scene of any movie I've seen. 
(Definitely better than everyone in the train station breaking out into
ballroom dancing, as in The Fisher King.)

It also had, playing a rather small bit part, one of my favorite radio
drama celebs.  Not of interest to anyone else in particular, but it warmed
my heart.
52.38087JGODCL::POMMERENTue Aug 06 1996 12:144
    I rented Se7en a few weeks ago, I liked it very much..... This movie
    could fill a conference at his own !!!
    
    Martijn.
52.3809The Movie "Minkey" Reminds Me OfSTRATA::BARBIERITue Aug 06 1996 13:009
      When I mistypes monkeys and called it "minkeys" it reminded
      me of one of the Pink Panther movies.  The one where he is
      robbed by a blind man with a monkey.  He kept calling it a
      "minkey" to the chief and the chief just exploded and said
      "ITS MONKEY, MONKEY, NOT MINKEY!!!"  (Or something like that.)
    
      One of the funnier comedy scenes I ever saw.
    
    						Tony
52.3810NUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighTue Aug 06 1996 13:051
        "Your minkey must have a lissance."
52.3811BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Tue Aug 06 1996 13:3711
| <<< Note 52.3803 by TROOA::BUTKOVICH "well, tomorrow is another day" >>>

| saw "A Time to Kill" tonight.  Glad I wasn't disappointed - 

	Yes, that movie was quite good. I saw it Saturday night. I was QUITE
impressed! Each character was perfectly casted. The judge was perfect. And it
looks like we both agree on Matthew! He is VERY boinkable!! And I even liked
the Sutherland connection (Keefer and Donald), which was unusual because I
don't like either actor. 

	I was not disapointed with this movie.
52.3812POLAR::RICHARDSONPerpetual GlennTue Aug 06 1996 13:493
    The boinkable dude was in the movie "Boys On The Side", he was busy
    boinking Drew Barrymore. This wasn't a bad movie, if you enjoy sad
    movies.
52.3813BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Tue Aug 06 1996 14:264

	I thought that was the guy who played Robin that boinked Drew? Chris
O'Donnell???
52.3814POLAR::RICHARDSONPerpetual GlennTue Aug 06 1996 14:291
    It was Mathew McConaghey who played an Arizona State Trooper.
52.3815BUSY::SLABForm feed = &lt;ctrl&gt;v &lt;ctrl&gt;lTue Aug 06 1996 14:306
    
    	But he wasn't boinking Drew Barrymore.
    
    	Unless, of course, Chris O'Donnell had her most of the time
    	and Mathew was boinking her on the side.
    
52.3816BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Tue Aug 06 1996 14:303

	And he boinked Drew? Hmmm.... maybe I will rent this one.... :-)
52.3817POLAR::RICHARDSONPerpetual GlennTue Aug 06 1996 14:321
    yep.
52.3818BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Tue Aug 06 1996 14:336

	Ok... that new Kurt Russell movie. Is anyone getting sick of his voice
in that movie? You hear it all over the tube, and it is so annoying. I can't
wait for this movie to come out and be over so I don't have to listen to that
damn scratchy low voice anymore! I'm so sick of it!
52.3819BUSY::SLABForm feed = &lt;ctrl&gt;v &lt;ctrl&gt;lTue Aug 06 1996 14:445
    
    	What do you expect from a guy named "Snake"?
    
    	Maybe that's as close as he can get to a hiss.
    
52.3820RUSURE::MELVINTen Zero, Eleven Zero Zero by Zero 2Tue Aug 06 1996 14:4415
>      When I mistypes monkeys and called it "minkeys" it reminded
>      me of one of the Pink Panther movies.  

The Return Of The Pink Panther was the movie.  The Pink Panther diamond is
stolen and the good inspector is asked to retrieve it.


>The one where he is
>      robbed by a blind man with a monkey.  

Actually, he was walking a beat, ran across a man, a monkey, and an organ.
Turns out the bank was being robbed behind him and the organ grinder was
the lookout man (even though he said he was blind :-)).

-Joe
52.3821BULEAN::BANKSTue Aug 06 1996 14:453
Why does that movie promo set off my deja vu alarm?

Hasn't this movie already been done?  Why does it seem so familiar?
52.3822RotPPWAHOO::LEVESQUEImpaled with betrayalTue Aug 06 1996 14:451
    I think that's my favorite of the series.
52.3823BUSY::SLABForm feed = &lt;ctrl&gt;v &lt;ctrl&gt;lTue Aug 06 1996 14:498
    
    	RE: .3821
    
    	I guess it's possible that it could be the long-awaited sequel
    	to "Escape from New York".
    
    	Just a guess, though.  8^)
    
52.3824BULEAN::BANKSTue Aug 06 1996 14:518
>    	I guess it's possible that it could be the long-awaited sequel
>    	to "Escape from New York".

Oh, ok, I guess that's where it looked familiar.

"long-awaited sequel"???

We are trading one-liners today, aren't we?
52.3825Seven or is it se7en?KERNEL::FREKESExcuse me while I scratch my buttTue Aug 06 1996 14:5210
    re: Seven
    
    I saw seven for about the 5th time last night. Each time I watch it I
    get more things out of it. It is one of those films that you could get
    away with watching for the sheer entertainment, and not pay too much
    attention too. But if you watch it again, you start to notice
    things,and realize it is a very well made film. The writer must be
    quite an inspired person.
    
    Steven.
52.3826BUSY::SLABForm feed = &lt;ctrl&gt;v &lt;ctrl&gt;lTue Aug 06 1996 14:545
    
    	Dawn, SOME of us have been waiting for awhile, although some
    	of us just got around to seeing "Escape from New York" in the
    	last 6 months.
    
52.3827Oh Yeah...He Could See!STRATA::BARBIERITue Aug 06 1996 15:074
    re: .3820
    
    Thats right!  Now I remember.  Incredible.  Funny, funny scene.
    Thanks for the details...
52.3828DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Aug 06 1996 18:2413
Saw "Delores Claiborne" on the tube. Really impressive the way it was cast -
all of the principals seemed utterly perfect for the roles the played. Between
this and "Shawshank Redemption", this really give one cause to think about 
Stephen King in a different light.

Although on reflection, some aspects of Delores Claiborne seemed very Stephen
King-like. Deaths/murders taking place beneath the surface under strange
circumstances, and the scene where Jennifer Jason Leigh's character looks in
the mirror (I don't know if that was in the book, or if it was a movie-ism) -
that scene really reminded me of chilling horrorshow stuff (I'm told that 
the scene is very consistent with people's perceptions in such circumstances
however). 
52.3829BUSY::SLABGot into a war with reality ...Tue Aug 06 1996 18:286
    
    	Don't forget "Stand By Me", another Stephen King movie that was
    	not exactly typical for him.
    
    	Closely based on his story "The Body".
    
52.38307JGODCL::POMMERENWed Aug 07 1996 06:5011
    re re:seven
    
    That's true I have seen it for three times now and everytime I notice
    something new.....
    
    The first time I had to rewind the tape to find out what exactly killed
    the hooker in the 'LUST'-murder.....
    
    I think they guy who wrote it must have a sick mind....
    
    M.
52.3831THEMAX::SMITH_SWed Aug 07 1996 07:191
    It could've been me.
52.3832CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitWed Aug 07 1996 11:114
    "Interview with a Vampire" is a good film. Good moody sort of
    atmosphere.
    
    I thought the young girl actress was very good.
52.3833Disney's Hunchback - not Hugo, but....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftWed Aug 07 1996 15:2136
    Finally saw "Hunchback" with Marsden this weekend.
    
    I *LOVED* it.  He *loved* it.
    
    (The computer graphics intergration, which succeeded in "The Great
    Mouse Detective" and "Beauty and the Beast," was a mixed blessing in
    Pocahontas, but came together absolutely wonderfully here.)
    
    Now, about the hollywood happy ending.  Frankly, I can't imagine a
    young child dealing with the original ending in a movie theater.
    But the hours (yes, hours) of discussion the movie has generated
    about Disney's Hunchback *AND* Hugo's Hunchback has been wonderful.
    (Which leads to what I'm re-reading right now.)
    
    
    About age appropriateness.  Marsden is four.  I was worried about
    bringing him to this movie.  My guess, your mileage may vary.
    I think if your child can do "Sleeping Beauty" then your child
    can handle this movie.  If your child can watch "Fantasia" then
    your child can handle this movie.  If your child can watch "Bambi"
    then your child can handle this movie.  If your child can handle
    the "mutant toys" of Toy Story, then your child can handle this
    movie.
    
    The bad guy (Frollo) in Disney's Hunchback dies falling off camera,
    just like "Sleeping Beauty," "Beauty and the Beast" and others.
    Not the on screen deaths in "Bambi," "Lion King" and "Pocahontas".
    
    I think the portrayal of the mob's humiliation and degradation of
    Quasimodo to be one of the tougher aspects of the movie for young
    children, as well as the opening scene of the death (oops, on camera)
    of Quasimodo's mother.  Maybe I'm naive, but the sexual aspects of the
    film where almost certainly a "whoosh" for most of the audience.
    
    
    								-mr. bill
52.3834TROOA::BUTKOVICHwell, tomorrow is another dayWed Aug 07 1996 20:2114
    >> POLAR::RICHARDSON "Perpetual Glenn"                   3 lines  
    6-AUG-1996 09:49
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        The boinkable dude was in the movie "Boys On The Side", he was busy
        boinking Drew Barrymore. This wasn't a bad movie, if you enjoy sad
        movies.
    
    I rented it last night and had a good cry.  I had seen it in the
    theatre and remembered liking it and also thinking the State Trooper
    was cute.  This Matthew Mccona... is a real chameleon.  I have now seen
    him in three movies and he seems like a completely different person in
    each.  I know that he is also starring in a movie called "Lone Star"
    which is only playing at one theatre here in Toronto.  It got great
    reviews, so I just might make the trek.  Has anybody seen it?
52.3835BUSY::SLABBaroque: when you're out of MonetWed Aug 07 1996 20:223
    
    	Yes, I'm sure somebody has.
    
52.3836TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhy do birds suddenly appear...Wed Aug 07 1996 21:072
    thank you, you jim-wannabee, you!  
    
52.3837MFGFIN::E_WALKERa ferret on a no-stick skilletWed Aug 07 1996 21:376
         Watched some of "First Knight" this weekend and was terribly
    disappointed. Only Sean Connery kept the movie from being a complete
    waste of time. What kind of King Arthur story was that supposed to
    be?!? The acting, except for Connery, was terrible, the storyline
    butchered, and the fights kind of lame. "Excalibur" was much better,
    for that kind of movie. 
52.3838POLAR::RICHARDSONPerpetual GlennWed Aug 07 1996 21:561
    Excalibur was excellent and true to the King Arthur legend.
52.3839MFGFIN::E_WALKERa ferret on a no-stick skilletWed Aug 07 1996 22:022
         Yeah, it actually had a Merlin and a quest for the holy grail.
    And most of the real characters of the real King Arthur legend. 
52.3840GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Wed Aug 07 1996 22:511
    "First Knight" was pretty bad IMO also.
52.3841THEMAX::SMITH_SWed Aug 07 1996 23:001
    "Bad" as in "Hip", "Phat", "Cool" or as in "Terrible", "Aweful", etc?
52.3842GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Wed Aug 07 1996 23:051
    Bad, as in not good.
52.3843SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Thu Aug 08 1996 14:402
    Watched Misery on teevee last night.  'Cept for the ovarlarding with
    commercials, it weren't bad.  Kathy Bates is one fabulous actress.
52.3844duh and dohHBAHBA::HAASmore madness, less horrorThu Aug 08 1996 14:414
Firsted time I saw _Misery_ I went into thinking it was gonna be a
comedy.

At or about the torture I began to suspect that it was not...
52.3845BUSY::SLABCareer Opportunity Week at DECThu Aug 08 1996 15:116
    
    	RE: .3840
    
    	I saw the 1st 5 minutes of it last night, and was impressed
    	with the sword "fights".
    
52.3846SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerThu Aug 08 1996 18:4310
    re: .3845
    
    We watched it the other evening, and Keith had to listen 
    to nearly two hours of, "No, this isn't right."  "It didn't
    happen this way."  "This is totally bogus."  Until finally
    he said, "It's a legend, it didn't happen anyway.  Who cares?"
    
    Hmmph.  I did.  "Excalibur" was excellent, IMO.  "First Knight"
    was not.
    
52.3847The Sword of Macsen WledigSMURF::WALTERSThu Aug 08 1996 19:3030
    Legend yes, but a just a few nuggets of truth too.
    
    The Romano-Spanish General Maximus (Macsen Wledig of Brythonic legend)
    tried to take the British legions to Rome to declare himself emperor
    He was met halfway by the Roman army and defeated in battle.  The lost
    sword of Macsen Wledig is supposed to be the original excalibur.
    
    The Myrddin Emrys [Merlin Ambrosius] legend takes off from this
    factual spot and was somewhat bastardized from the original by
    Morte d'Arthur, and other victoriana.  There's still a lot of factual
    data associated with the legend, such as the presence of Caer Camel
    (Caer is welsh for "fort") near the river camel, being Camelot.
    
    Merlin was also supposed to have raised the "giants dance" at
    Stonehenge, although it's much older than when he lived, it's possible
    that it was still used in druidic cult worship.  The odd thing about
    Stonehenge is that three of the huge stones are carved from Blue
    Pennant sandstone, which only naturally occurs hundreds of miles away
    on the Welsh hills, not far from the place where Merlin's cave was
    located in the legend.  No-one knows how they got the stones to
    the Salisbury plain.
    
    The Kniggets and round table stuff was victorian embellishment on
    the original legend that was probably to do with some real minor king who
    fought the Saxon invaders, but the original stories make for
    interesting reading.
    
    
    
    
52.3848JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Aug 08 1996 19:4510
    Dead Man Walking...
    
    Probably old news to such hip dudes and dudettes as boxers... but
    
    I was surprised that Sean Penn didn't win an academy award for HIS
    performance.  This movie was very thought provoking and I thought
    really showed depth on its subject matter.
    
    I was really torn over the spiritual and human aspect of both victims
    and the perpetrator.  
52.3849LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Thu Aug 08 1996 19:521
    i agree, nancy, sean penn was most excellent.
52.3850ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQFri Aug 09 1996 15:102
Yep, we watched Dead Man Walking last week. One of those that keeps you
thinking for a couple of days... Good flick.
52.3851POLAR::RICHARDSONAnd that seems fairFri Aug 09 1996 15:194
    I watched it last night. Tough movie.
    
    Very tough. Can't make glib statements about capital punishment after
    that one.                             
52.3852CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulFri Aug 09 1996 15:204
    
    	Didn't wanna end your death row talking?
    	Shouldn't have watched Dead Man Walking!
    
52.3853JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Aug 09 1996 15:3310
    .3850
    
    Yeah, I still am thinking about it.  This is only the 2nd film in over
    10 years that I've watched and felt that it lacked bias for anyone's
    particular point of view.  It was more of a documentary drama to me. 
    It was fiction, wasn't it?
    
    Left me very contemplative.
    
    
52.3854POLAR::RICHARDSONAnd that seems fairFri Aug 09 1996 15:432
    Well, that particular story was fiction, but Sister Helen is a real
    person who wrote a book about her experiences with Death Row inmates.
52.3855JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Aug 09 1996 16:023
    Hmmm, know the title?  That is a book I'd like to read.
    
    
52.3856POLAR::RICHARDSONAnd that seems fairFri Aug 09 1996 17:083
    "Dead Man Walking"
    
    8)
52.3857JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Aug 09 1996 17:273
    .3856
    
    Awwwwww... :-) /me slaps forehead and says oi vey!
52.3858Semi-true storyDECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Fri Aug 09 1996 17:283
I understand that Penn's character was actually a "composite character"
including aspects of two of the people in the Sister's experience.
52.385942333::LESLIEAndy Leslie | DTN 847 6586Mon Aug 12 1996 07:075
    Does anyone have an opinion as to the suitability of "Independence Day"
    for my 10, 12 & 14 year old kids?
    
    ta
    
52.3860They will probably love it...GEOFFK::KELLERHarry &amp; Jo, the way to go in '96Mon Aug 12 1996 12:0817
    RE: <<< Note 52.3859 by 42333::LESLIE "Andy Leslie | DTN 847 6586" >>>
    >
    >Does anyone have an opinion as to the suitability of "Independence Day"
    >for my 10, 12 & 14 year old kids?
    >
    >    ta
    
    
    IO think it would probably be ok for all of them.  We wnet to see it
    friday night and it was quite enjoyable.  It is definitely a "B-grade"
    sci-fi movie, although a very high budget "b-grade" movie.  I found it
    to flow nicely and be very entertaining.
    
    If my kids were a couple of years older (they are now 5 and 4) I would
    definitely take them to see it.
    
    --Geoff
52.3861ACISS1::BATTISFuture Chevy Blazer ownerMon Aug 12 1996 14:005
    
    I too saw Dead Man Walking while on vacation. Great movie, especially
    the ending. I didn't realize those tables (gurneys) could be positioned
    like that for last statements. That was one mean death machine. still
    going long after it was necessary.
52.3862ACISS1::BATTISFuture Chevy Blazer ownerMon Aug 12 1996 14:026
    
    saw a couple of other good movies while on vacation.
    
    "Heat"   I *loved* this flick!! DeNiro and Pacino were great as usual.
    
    "Eye for an Eye"  Sally Field was great in this one. 
52.3863BUSY::SLABThe new phone book's here!!Mon Aug 12 1996 14:244
    
    	I saw "Jumanji" the other day ... pretty good movie, and very
    	good [IMO] effects.
    
52.3864POLAR::RICHARDSONRanch send no girlMon Aug 12 1996 14:373
    I watched "12 Monkeys" again with some people who had the attention
    span of cheese whiz. I do not recommend this to anyone, it was really
    frustrating.
52.3865BULEAN::BANKSMon Aug 12 1996 14:383
Did the title reflect the movie, or the audience?

12 Monkeys is definitely one of my faves.
52.3866JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Aug 12 1996 15:403
    12 Monkeys requires more than one sitting.  I thought Willis couldn't
    have been more UGLY than in this one.   On occasion you could see the
    sex appeal, but for the most part he was a rabied mouth lunatic. :-)
52.3867TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhy do birds suddenly appear...Mon Aug 12 1996 15:4516
    Saw "Trainspotting" on the weekend - loved it! (although I can
    certainly understand how the subject matter would turn off a few
    people)  Found myself LOL at some really disgusting situations
    (Scotlands worst bathroom had me gagging at first, and also the scene
    where the boyfriend passes out at his girlfriends' parents place and then
    has to face the whole family the next morning - an unfortunate incident
    occurs which was worse than even I could imagine and totally hilarious,
    in a sick sort of way).  The Scotish accents were a bit hard to
    understand at times - almost needed subtitles.  Why anybody would
    voluntarily stick a needle in their arm is really beyond me.  I just
    hope the movie doesn't prompt anybody to try it - the looks of ectasy
    and description of it being "10 times better than your best orgasm" may
    lead some unfortunate to give it a try.  Soundtrack was good -
    especially how some of the lyrics fit the scene (the OD scene with Lou
    Reed singing "A Perfect Day").  Guess I'll have to rent "Shallow Grave"
    - it was made by the same people and stars some of the same actors.
52.3868POLAR::RICHARDSONRanch send no girlMon Aug 12 1996 15:461
    You mean more than one sit stilling.
52.3869JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Aug 12 1996 15:491
    or one still sitting... you pick ! :-)
52.3870CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulMon Aug 12 1996 17:338
    
    	I watched Sabrina this weekend (the "new" version, with 
    	Julia Ormond and Harrison "hubba hubba" Ford).
    
    	I enjoyed it immensely.  My husband wasn't as impressed,
    	but did like it.
    
    	
52.3871ACISS1::BATTISFuture Chevy Blazer ownerMon Aug 12 1996 18:354
    
    .3870
    
    wasn't she a witch?
52.3872MFGFIN::E_WALKEREvery neck shall break\Mon Aug 12 1996 21:065
    re. 3860
    
    
         Don't ever, EVER keep your kids from watching ANY movie!!!
    Censorship warps their little minds!!!
52.3873NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Aug 12 1996 21:111
Zat what happened to you, Mr. I-Want-A-14-Year-Old?
52.3874LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Aug 12 1996 21:143
    his MK3 will hold his attention for awhile.
    it makes me shutter to think i may know what
    MK3 stands for.
52.3875MFGFIN::E_WALKEREvery neck shall break\Mon Aug 12 1996 21:144
         Hey, my dad used to let me watch pornos from the time I was about
    4 or 5. Then he thought it was hilarious to let me watch horror movies
    and scare the hell out of myself. I had a lot of nightmares as a kid.
    Didn't affect me in the long run. 
52.3876THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Mon Aug 12 1996 21:181
    Says who?
52.3877MFGFIN::E_WALKEREvery neck shall break\Tue Aug 13 1996 02:245
         re. 3864
    
         Is "12 Monkeys" worth getting on pay-per-view? It looks good, but
    I can no longer rent movies in this city and so must go with a more
    expensive alternative. 
52.3878JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Aug 13 1996 03:128
    Ed,
    
    my father did the same thing too... but I would never say that having
    that filth in my mind at such an early age didn't effect me.  It has
    and will continue to for the rest of my life.  Your flippant attitude
    regarding adolescent morality creates a real sadness in me for you.
    
    Nancy
52.3879THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Tue Aug 13 1996 03:246
    I think the sadness is not being able to laugh it off rather than carry
    the baggage until one has a heart attack or kills someone because of an
    "abuse filled childhood".  I believe people or kids deal with
    situations such as these in different ways. If the "lighthearted"
    method works-go with it. 
    -ss
52.3880MFGFIN::E_WALKEREvery neck shall break\Tue Aug 13 1996 03:293
         I hardly think watching HBO counts as "abuse". There weren't any
    scrambler boxes in those days, so what were parents suppossed to do?
    Keep a 24 hour watch on the TV? HBO was pretty cool in those days.  
52.3881POLAR::RICHARDSONRanch send no girlTue Aug 13 1996 04:193
    Ed, 12 Monkeys is worth it but you have to pay attention. What do you
    mean you can't rent movies in this city anymore. Are the movie police
    after you or something?
52.3882they mean businessTHEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Tue Aug 13 1996 04:243
    It's the Blockbuster Police.  But at least they aren't as aggresive as
    those Rent-A-Center repomen.
    
52.3883POLAR::RICHARDSONRanch send no girlTue Aug 13 1996 04:296
    I watched "Executive Decision" tonight. Excellent. I was on the edge of
    my futon through the whole thing. 
    
    Great movie! Two thumbs up!
    
    
52.3884JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Aug 13 1996 04:316
    ::Smith
    
    And you find this okay when the lightheartedness is in favor of deviant
    behavior?  Methinks you know not what you are talking about.
    
    
52.3885THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Tue Aug 13 1996 04:593
    Methinks you're the only one that doesn't know Ed is not typically
    serious with most of his notes.
    -ss
52.3886MFGFIN::E_WALKEREvery neck shall break\Tue Aug 13 1996 05:082
         Executive Decision was a great movie, but don't you kinda wish
    Steven Segal had a bigger role? They kinda needed him at the end. 
52.388742333::LESLIEAndy Leslie | DTN 847 6586Tue Aug 13 1996 07:041
    Every Steven Segal movie I've seen made me wish he had a smaller role.
52.3888BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Tue Aug 13 1996 12:154

	How large is his roll? Is it a double, triple? Rolls in movies is not a
good thing. They look stupid.
52.3889WAHOO::LEVESQUEand your little dog, too!Tue Aug 13 1996 12:233
    Rented Seven last night, as the Missus remains at the beach with the
    children. Good movie, although it requires a bit of effort for
    suspension of disbelief. Great ending.
52.3890CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulTue Aug 13 1996 13:269
    
    	re .3885
    
    	-ss,
    
    	I think everyone here knows Ed is just "kidding".  The sad
    	part is that he thinks it's funny.
    
    
52.3891BUSY::SLABTwisted forever, forever twisted.Tue Aug 13 1996 14:224
    
    	Ed needs some sort of a wake-up call ... maybe a week or 2 in
    	TILLBERG's village would straighten him out.
    
52.3892SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Aug 13 1996 14:295
    .3886, .3887
    
    Seagal.
    
    \hth
52.3893POMPY::LESLIEAndy Leslie | DTN 847 6586Tue Aug 13 1996 14:312
    I care not. He has the presence of a small piece of belly-button
    lint.
52.3894POLAR::RICHARDSONRanch send no girlTue Aug 13 1996 14:372
    What I liked about the movie is that none of the plans went smoothly.
    Something went wrong at every turn.
52.3895PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 13 1996 14:494
>       <<< Note 52.3893 by POMPY::LESLIE "Andy Leslie | DTN 847 6586" >>>

	agreed.  actually, that's generous.

52.3896SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Aug 13 1996 14:542
    What does he do, anyway?  I've seen the name, but that's as far as my
    acquaintance with it/him goes.
52.3897POLAR::RICHARDSONRanch send no girlTue Aug 13 1996 14:552
    Well, he was actually fine in this one. He was a hero, but not
    superman.
52.3898SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Aug 13 1996 14:553
    Saw Cold Comfort Farm last night in the warm comfort of the Wilton Town
    Hall Cinema.  Fabulous film, caught the mood and humour of the book
    very well indeed.
52.3899PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 13 1996 15:036
>     <<< Note 52.3898 by SMURF::BINDER "Errabit quicquid errare potest." >>>

>    Saw Cold Comfort Farm last night in the warm comfort of the Wilton Town

	The new version?  Original was wickit funny.

52.3900JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Aug 13 1996 15:131
    Sniff, sniff, ... SNARFFFFF :-)
52.3901ACISS1::BATTISFuture Chevy Blazer ownerTue Aug 13 1996 15:232
    
    <---- great, we get Glen to quit only to see you still doing it.
52.3902BUSY::SLABWatch it, Joe - danger lurks aheadTue Aug 13 1996 15:246
    
    	Nancy, please don't start adopting ALL of Glen's vices.
    
    	However, if you do, I'd be glad to photograph the events for
    	future viewing.
    
52.3903SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Aug 13 1996 16:285
    .3899
    
    Yup, the new one.  With Kate Beckinsale as Flora Poste, Stephen Fry as
    the annoying writer, and Ian McKellen, whom I *adore* as a character
    actor, as the fire-and-brimstone Cousin Amos.
52.3904PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 13 1996 16:394
>     <<< Note 52.3903 by SMURF::BINDER "Errabit quicquid errare potest." >>>

	I'll have to check it out.  Alastair Sim was Amos in the original.
	What a panic.
52.3905CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Aug 14 1996 17:584
    Rented Executive Decision last evening.  Good fun flick.  Decent
    suspense, cool gadgets.  Good entertainment value, IMO.  
    
    Brian
52.3906Mighty Aphrodite.MILKWY::JACQUESWed Aug 14 1996 19:175
    We watched "Might Aphrodite" last night. This is a Woody Allen film.
    The film is histerical. I highly reccomend it, but it is not for
    the faint of heart. 
    
    Mark
52.3907ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQThu Aug 15 1996 15:2511
Saw "Twister" at The Last Strand in Clinton last night... Yep, the plot was a
bit thin, but I'm not sure what you'd use for a "deep" plot in this kind of
flick, anyway.

Oh, the effects are fantastic! I took the NOAA Skywarn class last year, which
is training in basic tornado spotting. They got it all right - all the
details are there, even the ones no one would notice if they hadn't been told
what to look for.

Probably the last chance to see it on the big screen is tonight... they
change over to the next film on Fridays.
52.3908CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowSat Aug 17 1996 03:409


 Watched "Executive Decision" tonight..pretty good, though the landing 
 at the end had me raising my eyebrows a bit..



 Jim
52.3909POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meSat Aug 17 1996 03:421
    THe bit about the landing gear was funny though.
52.3910CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowSat Aug 17 1996 21:014


 Yeah..
52.3911DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Mon Aug 19 1996 13:516
    
    	Watched "The Juror" and "Twelve Monkeys" over the weekend.
    	Good flicks.  "Twelve Monkeys" was bizarre!  But Brad Pitt
    	and Bruce Willis were excellent.  
    
    	JJ
52.3912LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Aug 19 1996 13:5411
    Othello, with Kenneth Branagh (?) and Laurence Fishburne.
    Pretty good, but I had some trouble understanding the lingo.
    I need to brush up.
    
    Kenneth will be starring as Hamlet in his next venture.  Quite
    a bunch of actors for this one:  Sir John Gielgud (?), Julie
    Christie, Charlie Heston, Robin Williams, Billy Crystal, Jack
    Lemmon, etc...should be interesting to say the least.  And 
    Kenneth looks amazingly like a young Laurence Olivier in the
    role of Hamlet.
    
52.3913PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Aug 19 1996 13:562
   .3912  he's so freakin' Thespian!  arrrgh.
52.3914DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Mon Aug 19 1996 13:5916
    
    
    	Oh yes, watched Othello last week.  I liked it much better
    	than the older one with Anthony Hopkins.  Though this portrayal
    	had Othello's relationship with Desdemona as much more passionate
    	than the AH one did.
    
    	And it looks like Kenneth is straying quite a bit from the
    	original Hamlet story.  Hamlet is supposed to see the ghost
    	of his father for the first time up at the top of the castle,
    	not out in the middle of the woods.  And I don't recall 
    	Hamlet and Ophelia doing the dirty deed in Shakespeare's 
    	story, but the previews of Kenneth's version show Hamlet 
    	nekkid in bed with Ophelia.  Should be interesting.
    
    
52.3915BULEAN::BANKSMon Aug 19 1996 14:025
Saw Goldeneye on Pay Per View last night.

It's about time they finally got Brosnihan (sp?) to do Bond.  Then again,
the plot and everything else was so lame, they could have gotten that
previous guy to do the movie (Dalton?), and it'd have been totally silly.
52.3916LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Aug 19 1996 14:126
    .3914
    
    you're right jj.  i don't recall a bed scene with Hamlet
    and Ophelia...i guess things need to be spiced up for the
    '90s.
    
52.3917SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Aug 19 1996 14:3213
    Shakespeare wrote what the mores of his times would allow.  The
    spiciness of the relationships between Hamlet and Ophelia, and Othello
    and Desdemona, simply could not be shown on his stage; that had to be
    conveyed by looks and innuendo, and you may rest assured the bumpkins
    in the stalls knew exactly how passionate things were.  Shakespeare's
    writing is plenty spicy enough, and loaded with double-entendres -
    videte the little discussion about stings and tails in The Taming of
    the Shrew.
    
    Branagh is using what the mores of our times will permit.  He has done
    more than any other single person to bring Shakespeare to the masses of
    the late 20th century in a form palatable and understandable to them. 
    In time, he will be recognized as one of the all-time greats.
52.3918DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Mon Aug 19 1996 14:335
    
    
    	I certainly don't disagree with your last paragraph Dick.
    	I love Branagh.
    
52.3919LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Aug 19 1996 14:392
    the Ham-Oph bed scene is probably a "flashback".  if i'm
    correct, they did have relations prior to all the unpleasantness? 
52.3920PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Aug 19 1996 14:476
>     <<< Note 52.3917 by SMURF::BINDER "Errabit quicquid errare potest." >>>

>    In time, he will be recognized as one of the all-time greats.

	ptui.

52.3921LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Aug 19 1996 14:555
    branagh's acting strikes me as really _good_ at times
    and really _bad_ at others.  many scenes he simply 
    can't pull off without appearing really hammy.  but i'm
    with dick on praising him for bringing shakespeare's 
    stuff to the screen.
52.3922PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Aug 19 1996 15:0414
>          <<< Note 52.3921 by LANDO::OLIVER_B "it's about summer!" >>>

>  many scenes he simply 
>  can't pull off without appearing really hammy.

    yeah, that's that Thespian thing.  kinda self-indulgent,
    or something.

>  but i'm
>  with dick on praising him for bringing shakespeare's 
>  stuff to the screen.

    mmm.  i don't think he should be doctoring it up in
    the process, though.  
52.3923LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Aug 19 1996 15:073
    .3922
    
    purist! ;-)
52.3924BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Mon Aug 19 1996 15:096
| <<< Note 52.3914 by DECWIN::JUDY "That's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!" >>>

| Oh yes, watched Othello last week.  

	Hey! Don't make fun of the way I talk!

52.3925it's only f/x dearSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Aug 19 1996 16:1715
    
    rented one Dole woundn't like at all:
    
    "From Dusk Till Dawn"
    
    
    blood, guts, hyper-violent, vampires,naked women,foul language
    nonstop killing.
    
    you know...like the 6 oclock news.
    
    
    
    
    
52.3926SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Aug 19 1996 16:5414
    Watched Twister in the comfort of the Wilton Town Hall Cinema Sunday
    afternoon.  No-brainer plot, but the cinematography and settings
    (setting aside the FX) were simply beautiful.
    
    The film creates a wonderful sense of place; I've been there, I know
    what it feels like on a summer day when the sky turns green, and this
    movie made it feel *right* instead of making it like "Hollyweird's view
    of the Midwest."
    
    Pacing was excellent, and frequent use of a faster-than-usual camera
    pan helped keep the pace of the movie just hectic enough that you felt
    the urgency of it all.
    
    Great way to spend a few hours.
52.3927BULEAN::BANKSMon Aug 19 1996 16:597
I really miss the Wilton Town Hall Cinema (and I miss their coming
attractions recording almost as much).

What I don't get is them showing something as pop and shallow as Twister.

NTIM.  I've seen (and enjoyed) lots of movies that the Wilton Town Hall
wouldn't consider showing.  I just thought Twister was one of them.
52.3928CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Aug 19 1996 17:009

 Twister will be out on Video October 1.





 Jim
52.3929ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerMon Aug 19 1996 17:173
    
    I live in the midwest. nothing like a good tornado to make your
    summer. I *adore* tornados.
52.3930PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Aug 19 1996 17:192
  .3929  a whirlwind romance in the making.
52.3931POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meMon Aug 19 1996 17:231
    He's just caught up in all the excitement.
52.3932GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheMon Aug 19 1996 17:234
    
    chicago is considered the midwest????
    
    
52.3933SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Aug 19 1996 17:2510
    .3927
    
    Dawn, Dennis managed to score a copy of Twister for the weekend only -
    probably on its way from one pop theater to another.  He showed it only
    three times, sandwiched in between his other films.
    
    I'd rather see it there, with the Dolby subsonic and Rhapsody in BLue
    for the atmosphere music before the movie and a real lemonade and
    Dennis's popcorn with real butter, than in any of the crowded, noisy,
    sticky-floored popular theaters.
52.3934BULEAN::BANKSMon Aug 19 1996 17:273
    Now you're really making me homesick!
    
    I love that theater!
52.3935ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerMon Aug 19 1996 17:517
    
    raq, i've got news for you. Chicago is the midwest. it is literally
    smack in the middle of the US of A. 
    
    Hog Butchers to the world. City of Big Shoulders. City where the dead
    vote again and again....  um, you get the idea. pay no attention to
    states like Iowa.
52.3936CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulMon Aug 19 1996 17:536
    
    an' if you couldn't tell from Battis,
    
    	the windy city
    
    
52.3937SMURF::WALTERSMon Aug 19 1996 17:554
    Medic! Both Glen and Mark are down.  Jennison's gone Postal!!
    
    
     
52.3938POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meMon Aug 19 1996 17:561
    I thought the middle was in Kansas somewhere.
52.3939PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Aug 19 1996 17:584
>         <<< Note 52.3938 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "So far away from me" >>>

	Mark is using the AHD definition of "middle".
52.3940BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Mon Aug 19 1996 18:007
| <<< Note 52.3937 by SMURF::WALTERS >>>

| Jennison's gone Postal!!

	Cool.... Karen, do you have a book of stamps I could buy?


52.3941NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Aug 19 1996 18:022
The geographic center of the U.S. is in ND somewhere.  If you exclude Alaska
and Hawaii, I think it's in Kansas.
52.3942SMURF::WALTERSMon Aug 19 1996 18:042
    Do we have to go through that pin thing again?  I'm not sure I can bear
    it.
52.3943DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Aug 19 1996 18:456
Phenomenon. Quite enjoyable, but mostly forgetable.

The Net - this one seemed really stupid and pointless - seems like pure
commercial "product", with nothing new, nothing thoughtful, just an income 
unit for the Hollywood machine. Sad, really.
52.3944POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meMon Aug 19 1996 18:533
    |Phenomenon. Quite enjoyable, but mostly forgetable.
    
    Sort of like your first sexual experience, eh?
52.3945POWDML::HANGGELIElvis is the WatermelonMon Aug 19 1996 18:543
    
    ...you were there?
    
52.3946POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meMon Aug 19 1996 18:591
    We all were.
52.3947POWDML::HANGGELIElvis is the WatermelonMon Aug 19 1996 19:063
    
    Wow, that really IS group sex.
    
52.3948LANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Mon Aug 19 1996 19:081
    eeeuuuuwww.  the morales of goats, again.
52.3949WAHOO::LEVESQUEand your little dog, too!Mon Aug 19 1996 19:081
    Baa!
52.3950ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerMon Aug 19 1996 19:094
    
    .3936
    
    ouch! I think you drew blood with that one.   <smarting>
52.3951Miscast apparently....SALEM::DODASometimes all you get is the truthMon Aug 19 1996 19:091
Siskel and Ebert gave it two thumbs down.
52.3952POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meMon Aug 19 1996 19:123
        The next time they both give anything two thumbs up, I hope somebody
    actually picks them up and they vanish without a trace so I don't have to 
    hear them bicker anymore.
52.3953I was talking about the sex....SALEM::DODASometimes all you get is the truthMon Aug 19 1996 19:130
52.3954I was talking about Siskel & Ebert....POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meMon Aug 19 1996 19:151
    	
52.3955Mr Hollan's OpusMILKWY::JACQUESMon Aug 19 1996 19:258
    Saw "Mr. Holland's Opus" last night (I know, what took me so long to
    see this award-winning movie). Definately one of Richard Drifus' 
    best movies ever. I was amazed at how young he looks in the earlier
    (1960's) scenes.
    
    A must-see for sure, especially if you like music.
    
    Mark
52.3956ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerMon Aug 19 1996 19:254
    
    Dreyfus
    
    nnttm
52.3957CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Aug 19 1996 19:313

 definitely
52.3958POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meMon Aug 19 1996 19:333
    good movie!
    
    I give it a group sex a-okay!
52.3959CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulMon Aug 19 1996 19:546
    
    	re .3940
    	
    	intrepid sort, aren't you ?
    
    
52.3960BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Mon Aug 19 1996 20:233

	Seeing S & E fight about a movie reminds me of some couples I know. :-)
52.3961MFGFIN::E_WALKERKabal wins.....FATALITYMon Aug 19 1996 21:007
         Saw "Goldeneye" this weekend. Mighty lame for a Bond movie, if you
    ask me. For one thing, the only impressive stunt was in the first ten
    minutes. For another, the lame excuse for a Bond never used his car.
    Sean Connery would have driven that BMW into the ground, and launched
    the Stinger missles too. This only goes to support my opinion that Sean
    Connery was the only "real" James Bond. I watched a couple of the
    movies from his series and there was no comparison. 
52.3962HBO needs helpMFGFIN::E_WALKERK225.81 23S:115Tue Aug 20 1996 01:099
         re.3943
    
         "The Net" was a great movie, ya clown!!! It was suspenseful,
    complicated, and it showed whatsername Bullock (sp?) in a bikini and in
    a white T-shirt at least four times. Saw "Gotti" this weekend as well -
    like most HBO movies it was choppy, confusing, and didn't have a plot.
    Reminded me of their other efforts, such as "Stalin" and "Tyson". Those
    HBO movies all seem poorly edited and never develop much
    characterization. 
52.3963that's where the money isTHEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Tue Aug 20 1996 01:182
    I watched "the net" last night. I want to be a hacker when I grow up.
    -ss
52.3964CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandTue Aug 20 1996 01:212
The Net is about as realistic as the computers they had on the original Star
Trek.  
52.3965POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meTue Aug 20 1996 01:242
    I agree. The Net was hardly realistic at all, but then again, computers
    are kind of boring though.
52.3966MFGFIN::E_WALKERK225.81 23S:115Tue Aug 20 1996 01:344
         The point I was trying to make is that on "The Net" you get to see
    Sondra Bullock (sp?) in a bikini. So it was well worth watching. I
    didn't really understand the plot, but it seemed suspenseful. Needed a
    few "virtual reality" graphic, though. 
52.3967POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meTue Aug 20 1996 01:443
    Actually, Disclosure had better computer stuff in it than the Net plus
    a cool virtual reality interface. I was surprised at how well done that
    movie was, and suspenseful.
52.3968POWDML::HANGGELIElvis is the WatermelonTue Aug 20 1996 01:494
    
    Disclosure was a good book.  I never made it to the cinema to see it
    8^/.
    
52.3969POWDML::HANGGELIElvis is the WatermelonTue Aug 20 1996 01:503
    
    And I still haven't seen Harriet the Spy 8^(!
    
52.3970MFGFIN::E_WALKERK225.81 23S:115Tue Aug 20 1996 01:515
         The movie was OK, but I couldn't really cheer for Michael Douglas.
    The computer stuff looked cool, but did you notice that the crazy
    virtual reality set-up wasn't really any more useful than a file
    cabinet? It sure wasn't any better than a regular keyboard for
    practical purposes. 
52.3971MFGFIN::E_WALKERK225.81 23S:115Tue Aug 20 1996 01:521
         What is "Harriet the Spy"? Never heard of it. More VR mayhem? 
52.3972POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meTue Aug 20 1996 01:545
    But the effects were cool.

    The Net was unremarkable.
    
    Besides, Demi is better lookin than Sandra.
52.3973MFGFIN::E_WALKERK225.81 23S:115Tue Aug 20 1996 01:571
         What?!? Are you drunk? Sober up and compare them again, buddy. 
52.3974POLAR::RICHARDSONSo far away from meTue Aug 20 1996 01:592
    I really don't see what everybody likes about Sandra. She's really not
    that great an actress either.
52.3975THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Tue Aug 20 1996 02:241
    nontheless, boinkable
52.3976POWDML::HANGGELIElvis is the WatermelonTue Aug 20 1996 02:275
    
    USA was showing the Star Wars trilogy this weekend.
    
    Harrison Ford.  Fwooooooooaaaaaaarrr.
    
52.3977MFGFIN::E_WALKERK225.81 23S:115Tue Aug 20 1996 02:354
         I didn't really think Carrie Fishcr looked all that great until
    "Return of the Jedi", when she was wearing that bikini outfit. If you
    have this movie on tape, go frame-by-frame through the part where she
    swings from one of Jabba the Hut's ships to the other. Very impressive. 
52.3978THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Tue Aug 20 1996 02:521
    I watched that Sunday.
52.39795 people 3 movies 9 dollars -- you can't beat itGEOFFK::KELLERHarry &amp; Jo, the way to go in '96Tue Aug 20 1996 11:5110
    Harriet the Spy was very well done.  We took the boys to see it at the
    drive-in (it was playing along with the Hunchback).
    
    The Hunchback did not follow the book very much at all but was an
    entertaining kids movie and the animation was top notch.
    
    The third movie was Kingpin...  We only stayed for about the first 10
    minutes and then left.  From what I've heard I didn't miss much.
    
    --Geoff
52.3980ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerTue Aug 20 1996 12:387
    
    .3972
    
    Glenn, you need to seriously have your eyes examined. Sandra Bullock
    blows Demi Moore away. She was cute when she was in "General Hospital",
    but alas Sandra is finer. Demi isn't ugly though by any stretch of the
    imagination.
52.3981WAHOO::LEVESQUEand your little dog, too!Tue Aug 20 1996 12:443
    >Sandra Bullock blows Demi Moore away. 
    
     Now we know where his taste in cars comes from...
52.3982CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Aug 20 1996 13:235
    Diabolique.  Miss it.  Not worth the rental.  Not even worth the gas to
    get the rental even if you walk to the video store.  No real suspense. 
    No real thrills.  No real acting.  
    
    Brian  
52.3983BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Tue Aug 20 1996 13:278
| <<< Note 52.3974 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "So far away from me" >>>

| I really don't see what everybody likes about Sandra. She's really not
| that great an actress either.

	I think it's because no matter what she plays as an actress, she always
looks innocent. And when she is interviewed, she's off the wall, in an innocent
way of course. Then there is that smile.....
52.3984SALEM::DODASometimes the truth is all you getTue Aug 20 1996 13:464
Happy Gilmore. Lackluster, but the scenes with Bob Barker were 
hilarious.

daryll
52.3985MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Tue Aug 20 1996 14:389
    Question:
    
    At the beginning of "Sound of Music", Maria is a small fledgling,
    obviously very young novice with absolutely no concept of the real
    world.  Within possibly months, not only is she a revered step mother
    but she seems to diplay all the attributes of a mature adult with years
    of experience.
    
    Why?
52.3986Master Thespian!BULEAN::BANKSTue Aug 20 1996 14:412
    Acting!
    
52.3987ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerTue Aug 20 1996 14:462
    
    The guitar Jack. 
52.3988NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Aug 20 1996 14:501
Guitar jack?  She had an electric guitar?
52.3989ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerTue Aug 20 1996 15:042
    
    arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
52.3990BUSY::SLABGot into a war with reality ...Tue Aug 20 1996 15:3110
    
    	Sandra Bullock is cute, but she doesn't come close to comp-
    	aring with Demi Moore ... who I also got "introduced" to when
    	I used to watch "General Hospital" during summer vacation.
    	Also of note is that Janine Turner [of "Northern Exposure]
    	played Demi's sister.
    
    	Deb, "Disclosure" is now on cable, if that helps.  So it must
    	have been released on tape a couple months ago.
    
52.3991CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Aug 20 1996 15:324


 The new "Brady Bunch" movie comes out this week.
52.3992BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Tue Aug 20 1996 16:013

	I can't wait to see it!
52.3993Fairly faithful to the old comic (unlike "Casper")DECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefTue Aug 20 1996 16:239
    My family and I saw "Richie Rich" over the weekend for free, thanks
    to a library reading program, and in spite of the fact that I cannot
    stand Macauley (sp?) Culkin.  It was somewhat better than I'd expected
    it to be.
    
    Someday, when someone makes a film titled "The _digital_ Story",
    I know the perfect role for John Larroquette!
    
    Chris
52.3994TROOA::TEMPLETONRealistic DreamerTue Aug 20 1996 16:476
    For the last few days they have been running ads for a new movie "The
    Island of Dr. Moreau(sp). Is this a remake? I seem to remember an
    earlier version with the same title.
    
    joan
    
52.3995"Not the house of pain!"NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Aug 20 1996 16:502
I think there've already been at least two versions (although one may have
been titled "The Island of Lost Souls").
52.3996BUSY::SLABGreat baby! Delicious!!Tue Aug 20 1996 17:156
    
    	The original was aired once or twice in the last week ... are
    	you sure it was an ad for a new 1?
    
    	But yes, it would almost certainly be a remake.
    
52.3997island of doctor moreauLANDO::OLIVER_Bit's about summer!Tue Aug 20 1996 17:211
    brando stars in the new one.
52.3998ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQTue Aug 20 1996 18:064
>    Diabolique.  Miss it.  Not worth the rental.  Not even worth the gas to

Likewise "Nick of Time". Dumb, far-fetched plot, frustratingly stupid main
character, not even much action to keep you entertained.
52.3999CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Aug 21 1996 14:174
    Rented Dusk to Dawn last night.  Yeeow!  Gorefest extraordinaire. 
    Okay, but not a good film to watch while eating dinner.  
    
    Brian
52.4000NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Aug 21 1996 14:194
>    Rented Dusk to Dawn last night.  Yeeow!  Gorefest extraordinaire. 
>    Okay, but not a good film to watch while eating dinner.  

The coming Gorefest is prolly good to watch when you're trying to fall asleep.
52.4001.SWAM1::MEUSE_DAWed Aug 21 1996 16:089
    
    re. 3999
    
    Dusk till Dawn- sort of" Dawn of the Dead" and" Desperado" mixed
    together. How about Cheech's greeting to patrons at the 
    strip bar? what's it called..  something twister...
    
    They are working on a seguel.
            
52.4002SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Wed Aug 21 1996 16:103
    sequel
    
    \hth,ymmv,nnttm
52.4003SALEM::DODASometimes the truth is all you getWed Aug 21 1996 16:141
Tarrentino is cool.....
52.4004GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheWed Aug 21 1996 16:5311
    
    saw "a time to kill" last nite.  very good.  i like samuel jackson. 
    one thing that i caught tho was, in the movie, they said jackson's
    character was heading for the gas chamber.  i was under the impression
    (from another one of grisham's books) that mississippi had done away
    with the gas chamber (in about 1984) and used lethal injection instead.
    
    and i have decided that matthew whatshisirishname is, indeed, a cutie.
    
      
    
52.4005POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideWed Aug 21 1996 16:553
    
    Perhaps it was set pre-1984?
    
52.4006GAVEL::JANDROWi think, therefore i have a headacheWed Aug 21 1996 17:215
    
    nope, it wasn't...in the movie, they talked about stuff that happened
    "10 years ago in 1985"...
    
    
52.4007NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Aug 21 1996 17:221
"Heading for the gas chamber" sounds better than "heading for the gurney."
52.4008ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerWed Aug 21 1996 17:463
    
    "Don't want to wind up in a roomful of gas?"
    "Should have given that woman a pass"
52.4009MFGFIN::E_WALKERK225.81 23S:115Wed Aug 21 1996 21:182
         Couldn't sleep last night so I watched the Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck
    movie on Showtime. Laughed so hard I almost threw up. 
52.4010BUSY::SLABBuzzword BingoWed Aug 21 1996 21:207
    
    	I saw that listed ... it was on quite late [or early, depending
    	on your frame of reference].
    
    	I ended up breaking the plastic seal on "Alien" and watching
    	it ... it's been a few years since I saw that movie.
    
52.4011ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerThu Aug 22 1996 12:543
52.4012CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Aug 22 1996 14:355
52.4013The FanMILKWY::JACQUESThu Aug 22 1996 16:477
52.4014LANDO::OLIVER_Bprickly on the outsideThu Aug 22 1996 16:502
52.4015PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Aug 22 1996 16:506
52.4016BUSY::SLABDILLIGAFThu Aug 22 1996 17:113
52.4017CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulThu Aug 22 1996 17:438
52.4018LANDO::OLIVER_Bprickly on the outsideThu Aug 22 1996 17:501
52.4019CNTROL::JENNISONIt's all about soulThu Aug 22 1996 17:538
52.4020LANDO::OLIVER_Bprickly on the outsideThu Aug 22 1996 17:551
52.4021MFGFIN::E_WALKERNight of the Living EdFri Aug 23 1996 03:253
52.4022Trainspotting, without the anorakKERNEL::FREKESExcuse me while I scratch my buttFri Aug 23 1996 12:087
52.4023COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Aug 23 1996 14:476
52.4024NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Aug 23 1996 14:501
52.4025SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Fri Aug 23 1996 17:031
52.4026SMURF::MROGERSFri Aug 23 1996 17:314
52.4027Whatever Lola wants, Lola getsDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefFri Aug 23 1996 20:466
52.4028NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Aug 23 1996 21:051
52.4029.4027CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandFri Aug 23 1996 21:321
52.4030FABSIX::B_LAZZARALike a rockSat Aug 24 1996 02:547
52.4031BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Sat Aug 24 1996 04:1711
52.4032ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerMon Aug 26 1996 13:055
52.4033CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Aug 26 1996 13:088
52.4034FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Aug 26 1996 13:137
52.4035tCSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowMon Aug 26 1996 13:194
52.4036GAVEL::JANDROWwhen in doubt, hug your teddybearMon Aug 26 1996 13:5513
52.4037SMURF::WALTERSMon Aug 26 1996 14:025
52.4038FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Aug 26 1996 14:095
52.4039MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Mon Aug 26 1996 14:131
52.4040BIGQ::SILVAquince.ljo.dec.com/www/decplus/Mon Aug 26 1996 15:165
52.4041PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Aug 26 1996 15:487
52.4042POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideMon Aug 26 1996 15:558
52.4043JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Aug 26 1996 16:2723
52.4044Jack was greatSCAMP::MINICHINOMon Aug 26 1996 18:164
52.4045ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150 KTS is TOO slowMon Aug 26 1996 18:473
52.4046RUSURE::GOODWINSacred Cows Make the Best HamburgerMon Aug 26 1996 18:491
52.4047DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Aug 26 1996 19:317
52.4048Good Bye Mr. ChipsSTRATA::BARBIERIMon Aug 26 1996 20:5112
52.4049NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Aug 26 1996 20:545
52.4050THEMAX::E_WALKERNight of the Living EdMon Aug 26 1996 23:164
52.4051THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Mon Aug 26 1996 23:222
52.4052FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Aug 26 1996 23:415
52.4053MFGFIN::E_WALKERNight of the Living EdMon Aug 26 1996 23:581
52.4054CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Aug 27 1996 02:1811
52.4055POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm brave but my chicken's sickTue Aug 27 1996 02:291
52.4056PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Aug 27 1996 03:574
52.4057FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Aug 27 1996 11:276
52.4058ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerTue Aug 27 1996 12:444
52.4059SMARTT::JENNISONIt's all about soulTue Aug 27 1996 13:024
52.4060FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Aug 27 1996 13:044
52.4061CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Aug 27 1996 13:229
52.4062POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm brave but my chicken's sickTue Aug 27 1996 13:274
52.4063Powerful story.GAAS::BRAUCHERWelcome to ParadiseTue Aug 27 1996 13:395
52.4064POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm brave but my chicken's sickTue Aug 27 1996 13:402
52.4065ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150 KTS is TOO slowTue Aug 27 1996 13:438
52.4066SCASS1::BARBER_Aall of which are American dreamsTue Aug 27 1996 13:452
52.4067ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerTue Aug 27 1996 13:463
52.4068POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm brave but my chicken's sickTue Aug 27 1996 13:481
52.4069ACISS1::BATTISNew Chevy Blazer ownerTue Aug 27 1996 13:502
52.4070FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Aug 27 1996 13:576
52.4071POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm brave but my chicken's sickTue Aug 27 1996 13:581
52.4072FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Aug 27 1996 14:032
52.4073SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Aug 27 1996 14:134
52.4074TrainspottingCTHU26::S_BURRIDGETue Aug 27 1996 14:2310
52.4075SMARTT::JENNISONIt's all about soulTue Aug 27 1996 14:294
52.407612 MonkeysGEOFFK::KELLERHarry &amp; Jo, the way to go in '96Tue Aug 27 1996 14:415
52.4077JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Aug 27 1996 15:166
52.4078POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm brave but my chicken's sickTue Aug 27 1996 15:221
52.4079OTOOA::BERNARDI experienced love at first sightTue Aug 27 1996 18:2915
52.4080POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm brave but my chicken's sickTue Aug 27 1996 18:371
52.4081SCAMP::MINICHINOTue Aug 27 1996 18:459
52.4082WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Tue Aug 27 1996 19:133
52.4083GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Tue Aug 27 1996 19:141
52.4084TrainspottingKERNEL::FREKESExcuse me while I scratch my buttTue Aug 27 1996 19:1816
52.4085Myelin/Basketball DiariesSTRATA::BARBIERITue Aug 27 1996 20:128
52.4086Nothin like video.OTOOA::BERNARDI experienced love at first sightWed Aug 28 1996 13:156
52.4087JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Aug 29 1996 03:348
52.4088THEMAX::SMITH_SR.I.P.-30AUG96Thu Aug 29 1996 04:022
52.4089GAVEL::JANDROWwhen in doubt, hug your teddybearThu Aug 29 1996 12:298
52.4090SCAMP::MINICHINOThu Aug 29 1996 13:4611
52.4091MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Thu Aug 29 1996 14:157
52.4092NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Aug 29 1996 14:181
52.4093RUSURE::GOODWINSacred Cows Make the Best HamburgerThu Aug 29 1996 14:263
52.4094RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Aug 29 1996 14:5714
52.4095SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Thu Aug 29 1996 15:1310
52.4096ACISS2::LEECHThu Aug 29 1996 15:182
52.4097:*)))))))SCAMP::MINICHINOThu Aug 29 1996 15:1912
52.4098MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Thu Aug 29 1996 15:222
52.4099POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm brave but my chicken's sickThu Aug 29 1996 15:292
52.4100ACISS2::LEECHThu Aug 29 1996 18:249
52.4101JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Aug 29 1996 18:5913
52.4102POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm brave but my chicken's sickThu Aug 29 1996 19:081
52.4103hope this helps...GAVEL::JANDROWwhen in doubt, hug your teddybearThu Aug 29 1996 19:1327
52.4104SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Thu Aug 29 1996 19:155
52.4105GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Thu Aug 29 1996 22:104
52.4106JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Aug 30 1996 00:543
52.4107DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Fri Aug 30 1996 01:4411
52.4108MFGFIN::E_WALKERNight of the Living EdFri Aug 30 1996 02:034
52.4109TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhy do birds suddenly appear...Fri Aug 30 1996 03:063
52.4110OTOOA::BERNARDCan't do itFri Aug 30 1996 14:1211
52.4111MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Fri Aug 30 1996 14:241
52.4112OTOOA::BERNARDYou can't give it away on 7th AvenueFri Aug 30 1996 15:056
52.4113OTOOA::BERNARDYou can't give it away on 7th AvenueFri Aug 30 1996 15:117
52.4114Grated expectationsDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefFri Aug 30 1996 15:1519
52.4115MKOTS3::JMARTINMadison...5'2'' 95 lbs.Fri Aug 30 1996 15:2622
52.4116NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Aug 30 1996 15:305
52.4117GAVEL::JANDROWwhen in doubt, hug your teddybearFri Aug 30 1996 16:2314
52.4118GENRAL::RALSTONOnly half of us are above average!Fri Aug 30 1996 16:531
52.4119I stopped watching much teevee by the mid-80s...DECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefFri Aug 30 1996 16:5411
52.4120ACISS2::LEECHFri Aug 30 1996 18:372
52.4121POLAR::RICHARDSONI'm brave but my chicken's sickSat Aug 31 1996 19:333
52.4122BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Mon Sep 02 1996 06:076
52.4123Pump up the volumeKERNEL::FREKESExcuse me while I scratch my buttMon Sep 02 1996 10:585
52.4124OTOOA::BERNARDYou can't give it away on 7th AvenueTue Sep 03 1996 13:2710
52.4125ACISS2::LEECHTue Sep 03 1996 13:301
52.4126OTOOA::BERNARDPeace through Superior Fire PowerTue Sep 03 1996 14:079
52.4127 though I was certainly hoping for a good sequel...ACISS2::LEECHTue Sep 03 1996 15:129
52.4128SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Sep 03 1996 15:4511
52.4129CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Sep 03 1996 15:5113
52.4130A most impressive postscript, 25 years laterDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefTue Sep 03 1996 15:568
52.4131CSLALL::HENDERSONEvery knee shall bowTue Sep 03 1996 16:004
52.4132SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Sep 03 1996 16:531
52.4133GAVEL::JANDROWwhen in doubt, hug your teddybearTue Sep 03 1996 17:1822
52.4134SMARTT::JENNISONIt's all about soulTue Sep 03 1996 17:3110
52.4135GAVEL::JANDROWwhen in doubt, hug your teddybearTue Sep 03 1996 17:424
52.413612 Monkeys EndingSTRATA::BARBIERITue Sep 03 1996 18:0029
52.4137GAVEL::JANDROWwhen in doubt, hug your teddybearTue Sep 03 1996 18:3618
52.4138WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Tue Sep 03 1996 19:154
52.4139GAVEL::JANDROWwhen in doubt, hug your teddybearTue Sep 03 1996 21:294
52.4140JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeWed Sep 04 1996 01:226
52.4141BUSY::SLABFUBARWed Sep 04 1996 14:209
52.4142SMURF::WALTERSWed Sep 04 1996 14:351
52.4143TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhy do birds suddenly appear...Wed Sep 04 1996 16:464
52.4144DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Sep 04 1996 17:1510
52.4145sorry if I bored you 8^)TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhy do birds suddenly appear...Fri Sep 06 1996 16:5568
52.4146POMPY::LESLIEAndy Leslie, DTN 847 6586Fri Sep 06 1996 17:0912
52.4147PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Sep 06 1996 17:588
52.4148FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Sep 08 1996 13:137
52.4149POMPY::LESLIEAndy Leslie, DTN 847 6586Mon Sep 09 1996 10:4011
52.4150Bogus ...BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Mon Sep 09 1996 12:4412
52.4151SMARTT::JENNISONIt's all about soulMon Sep 09 1996 13:277
52.4152LANDO::OLIVER_Bprickly on the outsideMon Sep 09 1996 14:204
52.4153SCASS1::BARBER_AIt's falling, the skyMon Sep 09 1996 15:492
52.4154EDSCLU::JAYAKUMARMon Sep 09 1996 18:216
52.4155SALEM::DODASeaching for the next distractionMon Sep 09 1996 18:406
52.4156PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Sep 09 1996 18:428
52.4157SMURF::WALTERSMon Sep 09 1996 18:573
52.4158SALEM::DODASeaching for the next distractionMon Sep 09 1996 18:597
52.4159TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhy do birds suddenly appear...Mon Sep 09 1996 19:2812
52.4160CTHU26::S_BURRIDGEMon Sep 09 1996 19:387
52.4161Some recent viewing.MILKWY::JACQUESMon Sep 09 1996 19:4233
52.4162SALEM::DODASearching for the next distractionMon Sep 09 1996 19:484
52.4163BUSY::SLABDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Sep 09 1996 19:517
52.4164TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhy do birds suddenly appear...Mon Sep 09 1996 19:5227
52.4165CTHU26::S_BURRIDGEMon Sep 09 1996 20:093
52.4166GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeTue Sep 10 1996 14:218
52.4167ACISS2::LEECHTue Sep 10 1996 15:002
52.4168Father of the bride IIMILKWY::JACQUESTue Sep 10 1996 15:225
52.4169BrazilTHEMAX::E_WALKERWho needs the Kwik-e Mart?Tue Sep 17 1996 21:113
52.4170Cool...STAR::JESSOPTam quid?Tue Sep 17 1996 21:123
52.4171later...STAR::JESSOPHi dad, can I wear a dress to school today?Tue Sep 17 1996 21:156
52.4172THEMAX::E_WALKERWho needs the Kwik-e Mart?Tue Sep 17 1996 21:153
52.4173...hmmm...STAR::JESSOPHi dad, can I wear a dress to school today?Tue Sep 17 1996 21:222
52.4174FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Sep 17 1996 23:004
52.4175Brazil: called to mind by HudsuckerUSPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Wed Sep 18 1996 03:3010
52.4176POLAR::RICHARDSONThere ain't no easy way outWed Sep 18 1996 03:531
52.4177THEMAX::E_WALKERWho needs the Kwik-e Mart?Wed Sep 18 1996 04:054
52.4178POLAR::RICHARDSONThere ain't no easy way outWed Sep 18 1996 04:081
52.4179WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Sep 18 1996 10:547
52.4180WAHOO::LEVESQUEenergy spent on passion is never wastedWed Sep 18 1996 11:175
52.4181ACISS1::BATTISBlazer BoyWed Sep 18 1996 12:212
52.4182SMURF::WALTERSWed Sep 18 1996 12:4610
52.4183POLAR::RICHARDSONThere ain't no easy way outWed Sep 18 1996 13:223
52.4184LANDO::OLIVER_Bprickly on the outsideWed Sep 18 1996 14:4812
52.4185WAHOO::LEVESQUEenergy spent on passion is never wastedWed Sep 18 1996 15:024
52.4186BUSY::SLABCandy'O, I need you ...Wed Sep 18 1996 15:143
52.4187WAHOO::LEVESQUEenergy spent on passion is never wastedWed Sep 18 1996 15:332
52.4188SALEM::DODASearching for the next distractionWed Sep 18 1996 15:451
52.4189BUSY::SLABCareer Opportunity Week at DECWed Sep 18 1996 15:478
52.4190ACISS1::BATTISBlazer BoyWed Sep 18 1996 15:514
52.4191BUSY::SLABCareer Opportunity Week at DECWed Sep 18 1996 15:595
52.4192HuahhDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefWed Sep 18 1996 19:2213
52.4193MFGFIN::E_WALKERWho needs the Kwik-e Mart?Wed Sep 18 1996 21:013
52.4194FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Sep 18 1996 23:036
52.4195POMPY::LESLIEAndy Leslie, sage sayings 2p a bagThu Sep 19 1996 06:4713
52.4196SALEM::DODASearching for the next distractionThu Sep 19 1996 12:364
52.4197POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideThu Sep 19 1996 13:439
52.4198Why rent?POMPY::LESLIEAndy Leslie, sage sayings 2p a bagThu Sep 19 1996 14:211
52.4199POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideThu Sep 19 1996 14:235
52.4200ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyThu Sep 19 1996 14:289
52.4201LANDO::OLIVER_Bprickly on the outsideThu Sep 19 1996 14:305
52.4202YMMVPERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftThu Sep 19 1996 15:1416
52.4203BUSY::SLABDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Thu Sep 19 1996 16:516
52.4204TrainspottingCTHU26::S_BURRIDGEThu Sep 19 1996 16:5715
52.4205ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyThu Sep 19 1996 20:1510
52.4206NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 19 1996 20:331
52.4207ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyFri Sep 20 1996 13:292
52.4208BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Sep 20 1996 14:358
52.4209POLAR::RICHARDSONThere ain't no easy way outFri Sep 20 1996 15:041
52.4210yawnCSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Sep 20 1996 15:154
52.4211LANDO::OLIVER_Bprickly on the outsideFri Sep 20 1996 15:1816
52.4212SMURF::WALTERSFri Sep 20 1996 15:231
52.4213It reminded me too much of the real world...DECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefFri Sep 20 1996 16:0420
52.4214ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQFri Sep 20 1996 16:219
52.4215BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Sep 20 1996 16:477
52.4216BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Sep 20 1996 16:495
52.4217LANDO::OLIVER_Bprickly on the outsideFri Sep 20 1996 16:501
52.4218Oh-oh, now I'm going to have to watch itDECWIN::RALTOJail to the ChiefFri Sep 20 1996 17:0110
52.4219THEMAX::E_WALKERI'd rather be in VegasFri Sep 20 1996 21:412
52.4220TROOA::BUTKOVICHwhy do birds suddenly appear...Mon Sep 23 1996 02:5010
52.4221WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Sep 23 1996 11:3311
52.4222BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyMon Sep 23 1996 12:295
52.4223SMARTT::JENNISONIt's all about soulMon Sep 23 1996 13:147
52.4224SMURF::WALTERSMon Sep 23 1996 13:4512
52.4225PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Sep 23 1996 14:175
52.4226WMOIS::CONNELLStory does that to us.Mon Sep 23 1996 16:0317
52.4227BUSY::SLABAlways a Best Man, never a groomMon Sep 23 1996 16:066
52.42283someSTAR::JESSOPAnkylosaurs had afterburnersMon Sep 23 1996 16:433
52.4229WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Tue Sep 24 1996 16:485
52.4230Springtime....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Sep 24 1996 17:049
52.4231POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideTue Sep 24 1996 17:055
52.4232ACISS1::BATTISBlazer BoyWed Sep 25 1996 12:472
52.4233POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideWed Sep 25 1996 13:0013
52.4234ACISS1::BATTISBlazer BoyWed Sep 25 1996 13:022
52.4235CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Sep 25 1996 17:524
52.4236POLAR::RICHARDSONMaturbatory AfiacondoWed Sep 25 1996 17:542
52.4237DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:018
52.4238NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Sep 25 1996 19:011
52.4239BUSY::SLABIs this p_n great or what?Wed Sep 25 1996 19:215
52.4240DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Sep 25 1996 20:517
52.4241BUSY::SLABIt's 7 o'clock and I wanna mosh ...Wed Sep 25 1996 20:545
52.4242I'd gladly pay you, TuesdayTLE::RALTOI'll do anything for coffeeWed Sep 25 1996 21:003
52.4243NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Sep 25 1996 21:011
52.4244CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Sep 26 1996 14:496
52.4245JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 16:2112
52.4246DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Thu Sep 26 1996 16:223
52.4247NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 16:271
52.4248JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:086
52.4249POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideThu Sep 26 1996 17:096
52.4250JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:097
52.4251SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoThu Sep 26 1996 17:105
52.4252JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:101
52.4253BUSY::SLABLolly^3 get your adverbs here.Thu Sep 26 1996 17:1110
52.4254JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:115
52.4255GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainThu Sep 26 1996 17:134
52.4256SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoThu Sep 26 1996 17:156
52.4257JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:163
52.4258SCASS1::BARBER_AI'm just a girlThu Sep 26 1996 17:162
52.4259POLAR::RICHARDSONGood-a-niiiiite-a-ding-ding-dingThu Sep 26 1996 17:194
52.4260JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:1911
52.4261JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:2212
52.4262POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideThu Sep 26 1996 17:2214
52.4263POLAR::RICHARDSONGood-a-niiiiite-a-ding-ding-dingThu Sep 26 1996 17:221
52.4264POLAR::RICHARDSONGood-a-niiiiite-a-ding-ding-dingThu Sep 26 1996 17:242
52.4265NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 17:254
52.4266out of fashion ?GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaThu Sep 26 1996 17:2611
52.4267DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Thu Sep 26 1996 17:2719
52.4268NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 17:281
52.4269JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:2821
52.4270DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Thu Sep 26 1996 17:292
52.4271JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:316
52.4272POLAR::RICHARDSONGood-a-niiiiite-a-ding-ding-dingThu Sep 26 1996 17:312
52.4273CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Sep 26 1996 17:333
52.4274NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 17:334
52.4275do cartoons count ?GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaThu Sep 26 1996 17:356
52.4276NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 17:361
52.4277her observation is validWECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Thu Sep 26 1996 17:379
52.4278CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Sep 26 1996 17:383
52.4279SMURF::WALTERSThu Sep 26 1996 17:4212
52.4280POLAR::RICHARDSONGood-a-niiiiite-a-ding-ding-dingThu Sep 26 1996 17:425
52.4281JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:432
52.4282JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:433
52.4283NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 17:458
52.4284SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerThu Sep 26 1996 17:464
52.4285BUSY::SLABLooking out for number oneThu Sep 26 1996 17:479
52.4286NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 17:482
52.4287hmm...GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaThu Sep 26 1996 17:486
52.4288JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:4837
52.4289BUSY::SLABLooking out for number oneThu Sep 26 1996 17:515
52.4290JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:513
52.4291LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsThu Sep 26 1996 17:526
52.4292CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Sep 26 1996 17:522
52.4293SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerThu Sep 26 1996 17:537
52.4294JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:545
52.4295POLAR::RICHARDSONGood-a-niiiiite-a-ding-ding-dingThu Sep 26 1996 17:542
52.4296SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoThu Sep 26 1996 17:5513
52.4297We do agree, just wonder if the premise is the sameJULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:557
52.4298NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 17:561
52.4299JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:573
52.4300LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsThu Sep 26 1996 17:574
52.4301JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 17:571
52.4302CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayThu Sep 26 1996 18:0019
52.4303JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 18:007
52.4304POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideThu Sep 26 1996 18:014
52.4305ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQThu Sep 26 1996 18:021
52.4306SUBSYS::NEUMYERVote NO on Question 1Thu Sep 26 1996 18:025
52.4307SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoThu Sep 26 1996 18:0311
52.4308CTHU26::S_BURRIDGEThu Sep 26 1996 18:043
52.4309DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Thu Sep 26 1996 18:058
52.4310LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsThu Sep 26 1996 18:052
52.4311BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Thu Sep 26 1996 18:0611
52.4312WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Sep 26 1996 18:071
52.4313CTHU26::S_BURRIDGEThu Sep 26 1996 18:073
52.4314POLAR::RICHARDSONGood-a-niiiiite-a-ding-ding-dingThu Sep 26 1996 18:0919
52.4315BUSY::SLABLookitthehogansonher!!Thu Sep 26 1996 18:095
52.4316BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Thu Sep 26 1996 18:096
52.4317NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 18:102
52.4318EVMS::MORONEYYOU! Out of the gene pool!Thu Sep 26 1996 18:104
52.4319LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsThu Sep 26 1996 18:122
52.4320BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Thu Sep 26 1996 18:137
52.4321SALEM::DODAOut of my mind, back in 5 minutesThu Sep 26 1996 18:142
52.4322LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsThu Sep 26 1996 18:161
52.4323NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 18:171
52.4324Demi Moore...STAR::JESSOPAnkylosaurs had afterburnersThu Sep 26 1996 18:184
52.4325BUSY::SLABLookitthehogansonher!!Thu Sep 26 1996 18:1912
52.4326LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsThu Sep 26 1996 18:211
52.4327WAHOO::LEVESQUEenergy spent on passion is never wastedThu Sep 26 1996 18:211
52.4328EVMS::MORONEYYOU! Out of the gene pool!Thu Sep 26 1996 18:224
52.4329BUSY::SLABLookitthehogansonher!!Thu Sep 26 1996 18:286
52.4330JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Sep 26 1996 18:307
52.4331PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Sep 26 1996 18:327
52.4332BUSY::SLABLookitthehogansonher!!Thu Sep 26 1996 18:327
52.4333MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Thu Sep 26 1996 18:333
52.4334BUSY::SLABLookitthehogansonher!!Thu Sep 26 1996 18:4617
52.4335PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Sep 26 1996 18:569
52.4336BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Thu Sep 26 1996 19:017
52.4337WMOIS::CONNELLStory does that to us.Thu Sep 26 1996 19:0622
52.4338SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Thu Sep 26 1996 19:342
52.4339MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Thu Sep 26 1996 19:351
52.4340SMURF::WALTERSThu Sep 26 1996 19:383
52.4341the movie is loosely the first book...GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaThu Sep 26 1996 19:4010
52.4342or was that 'King of Kings', or perhaps both?ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyThu Sep 26 1996 19:414
52.4343BUSY::SLABMiddle-age begins at 30.Thu Sep 26 1996 19:495
52.4344SMURF::WALTERSThu Sep 26 1996 19:521
52.4345NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Sep 26 1996 19:541
52.4346MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Thu Sep 26 1996 19:5913
52.4347PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Sep 26 1996 20:003
52.4348LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsThu Sep 26 1996 20:032
52.4349CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayThu Sep 26 1996 20:0615
52.4350PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Sep 26 1996 20:077
52.4351hidden agendaGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaThu Sep 26 1996 20:096
52.4352LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsThu Sep 26 1996 20:096
52.43532543::MAIEWSKIAtlanta Braves, N.L. East ChampsThu Sep 26 1996 20:1620
52.4354I'm a victim...GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaThu Sep 26 1996 20:207
52.4355EVMS::MORONEYYOU! Out of the gene pool!Thu Sep 26 1996 20:2011
52.4356PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Sep 26 1996 20:267
52.4357To no one in particularWELKIN::ADOERFERHi-yo Server, away!Thu Sep 26 1996 20:292
52.4358PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Sep 26 1996 20:303
52.4359SMURF::WALTERSThu Sep 26 1996 20:461
52.4360MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Thu Sep 26 1996 20:464
52.4361CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Sep 27 1996 02:2710
52.4362WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Sep 27 1996 11:021
52.4363WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Sep 27 1996 11:042
52.4364ACISS1::BATTISBlazer BoyFri Sep 27 1996 12:383
52.4365SALEM::DODAOut of my mind, back in 5 minutesFri Sep 27 1996 12:395
52.4366ACISS1::BATTISBlazer BoyFri Sep 27 1996 12:574
52.4367Terry MulhollandBIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Fri Sep 27 1996 13:485
52.4368BUSY::SLABNew Yorkers frisk their childrenFri Sep 27 1996 14:567
52.4369POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideMon Sep 30 1996 00:049
52.4370ACISS1::BATTISBlazer BoyMon Sep 30 1996 12:315
52.4371Quiz ShowGEOFFK::KELLERHarry &amp; Jo, the way to go in '96Mon Sep 30 1996 12:374
52.4372SMURF::WALTERSMon Sep 30 1996 13:383
52.4373forget the name of the flickGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaMon Sep 30 1996 13:434
52.4374CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Sep 30 1996 13:529
52.4375Laugh? I cried...POMPY::LESLIEAndy Leslie, 847 6586Mon Sep 30 1996 13:524
52.4376How a Proper Roman spoke a couple of millenia ago....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Sep 30 1996 13:597
52.4377BUSY::SLABRaging SlabMon Sep 30 1996 14:47292
52.4378BUSY::SLABRaging SlabMon Sep 30 1996 14:4915
52.4379WLDBIL::KILGOREHow serious is this?Mon Sep 30 1996 16:506
52.4380ACISS1::BATTISBlazer BoyMon Sep 30 1996 16:541
52.4381BUSY::SLABRepaint Your WagonMon Sep 30 1996 17:067
52.4382GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeMon Sep 30 1996 17:366
52.43832 for the price of 1MILKWY::JACQUESMon Sep 30 1996 19:087
52.4384cinematography was *fabulous*MPGS::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketMon Sep 30 1996 19:094
52.4385LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsMon Sep 30 1996 19:104
52.4386MPGS::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketMon Sep 30 1996 19:166
52.4387LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsMon Sep 30 1996 19:192
52.4388PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Sep 30 1996 19:213
52.4389MPGS::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketMon Sep 30 1996 19:398
52.4390LANDO::OLIVER_Ba box of starsMon Sep 30 1996 19:443
52.4391BUSY::SLABSlugmania ... catch it!!Tue Oct 01 1996 16:2417
52.4392BUSY::SLABSlugmania ... catch it!!Tue Oct 01 1996 16:4426
52.4393SMARTT::JENNISONIt's all about soulTue Oct 01 1996 17:356
52.4394BUSY::SLABThailboat!!Wed Oct 02 1996 21:2310
52.4395POLAR::RICHARDSONGood-a-niiiiite-a-ding-ding-dingWed Oct 02 1996 22:116
52.4396BUSY::SLABThe Choking DobermanWed Oct 02 1996 22:265
52.4397ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberThu Oct 03 1996 14:462
52.4398BUSY::SLABThe Second Winds of WarThu Oct 03 1996 14:543
52.4399spectator sport ?GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaThu Oct 03 1996 15:097
52.4400wager on the RagerWAHOO::LEVESQUEdrinking life to the leesThu Oct 03 1996 15:131
52.4401ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberThu Oct 03 1996 15:192
52.4402WAHOO::LEVESQUEdrinking life to the leesThu Oct 03 1996 15:241
52.4403ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberThu Oct 03 1996 15:333
52.4404BUSY::SLABThe Vanishing HitchhikerThu Oct 03 1996 15:376
52.4405POLAR::RICHARDSONGood-a-niiiiite-a-ding-ding-dingThu Oct 03 1996 15:381
52.4406NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Oct 03 1996 15:391
52.4407POLAR::RICHARDSONGood-a-niiiiite-a-ding-ding-dingThu Oct 03 1996 15:421
52.4408ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberFri Oct 04 1996 13:463
52.4409GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeFri Oct 04 1996 16:533
52.4410ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberFri Oct 04 1996 18:082
52.4411GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeFri Oct 04 1996 18:456
52.4412CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each daySat Oct 05 1996 22:5810
52.4413CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each daySat Oct 05 1996 22:5810
52.4414BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Sun Oct 06 1996 01:046
52.4415CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each daySun Oct 06 1996 02:124
52.4416BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Mon Oct 07 1996 00:143
52.4417SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Oct 07 1996 13:5511
52.4418ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberMon Oct 07 1996 16:492
52.4419CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsMon Oct 07 1996 17:326
52.4420BUSY::SLABWould you care for a McSeal,sir?Mon Oct 07 1996 17:444
52.4421CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsMon Oct 07 1996 17:451
52.4422saw itGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaMon Oct 07 1996 18:087
52.4423ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberMon Oct 07 1996 20:133
52.4424LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Mon Oct 07 1996 20:242
52.4425ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberMon Oct 07 1996 20:263
52.4426LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Mon Oct 07 1996 20:282
52.4427BUSY::SLABYou and me against the worldMon Oct 07 1996 20:347
52.4428LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Mon Oct 07 1996 20:378
52.4429SMURF::WALTERSMon Oct 07 1996 20:371
52.4430LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Mon Oct 07 1996 20:401
52.4431BUSY::SLABYou and me against the worldMon Oct 07 1996 20:4111
52.4432LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Mon Oct 07 1996 20:445
52.4433BUSY::SLABYou and me against the worldMon Oct 07 1996 20:4810
52.4434LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Mon Oct 07 1996 20:534
52.4435BUSY::SLABYou and me against the worldMon Oct 07 1996 20:568
52.4436MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Mon Oct 07 1996 21:168
52.4437LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Mon Oct 07 1996 21:215
52.4438MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Mon Oct 07 1996 21:375
52.4439LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Mon Oct 07 1996 21:463
52.4440MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Mon Oct 07 1996 21:591
52.4441JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Oct 07 1996 22:171
52.4442LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Mon Oct 07 1996 22:281
52.4443FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Oct 07 1996 22:429
52.4444ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberTue Oct 08 1996 12:456
52.4445BUSY::SLABA seemingly endless timeTue Oct 08 1996 15:4510
52.4446CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Oct 08 1996 15:5612
52.4447MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Tue Oct 08 1996 16:121
52.4448CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Oct 08 1996 16:153
52.4449ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberTue Oct 08 1996 17:183
52.4450LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Tue Oct 08 1996 17:201
52.4451WAHOO::LEVESQUEI think I must be goingTue Oct 08 1996 17:212
52.4452LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Tue Oct 08 1996 17:221
52.4453WAHOO::LEVESQUEguess I'll set a course and goTue Oct 08 1996 17:231
52.4454NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Oct 08 1996 17:292
52.4455ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberTue Oct 08 1996 17:422
52.4456BUSY::SLABAct like you own the companyTue Oct 08 1996 17:437
52.4457LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Tue Oct 08 1996 17:453
52.4458WAHOO::LEVESQUEguess I'll set a course and goTue Oct 08 1996 17:461
52.4459SMARTT::JENNISONIt's all about soulTue Oct 08 1996 19:153
52.4460BUSY::SLABAfterbirth of a NationTue Oct 08 1996 19:233
52.4461WAHOO::LEVESQUEguess I'll set a course and goTue Oct 08 1996 19:261
52.4462SCASS1::BARBER_AU F O F UTue Oct 08 1996 19:311
52.4463<gulp!>WAHOO::LEVESQUEguess I'll set a course and goTue Oct 08 1996 19:331
52.4464GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaTue Oct 08 1996 19:364
52.4465SMURF::WALTERSTue Oct 08 1996 19:361
52.4466SCASS1::BARBER_AU F O F UTue Oct 08 1996 19:381
52.4467Rented Leslie Nielson's "How to play golf" or whatever...STAR::JESSOPAnkylosaurs had afterburnersWed Oct 09 1996 19:244
52.4468BUSY::SLABConsume feces and expire.Wed Oct 09 1996 20:065
52.4469You got me worried...STAR::JESSOPAnkylosaurs had afterburnersWed Oct 09 1996 20:104
52.4470NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Oct 09 1996 20:181
52.4471BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Wed Oct 09 1996 22:204
52.4472SALEM::DODAOut of my mind, back in 5 minutesThu Oct 10 1996 12:455
52.4473ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberThu Oct 10 1996 13:182
52.4474SALEM::DODAOut of my mind, back in 5 minutesThu Oct 10 1996 13:233
52.4475Gotta love Nicole... she even has a nice name.ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyThu Oct 10 1996 13:463
52.4476ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberThu Oct 10 1996 14:105
52.4477NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Oct 10 1996 14:151
52.4478WAHOO::LEVESQUEguess I'll set a course and goThu Oct 10 1996 14:371
52.4479LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Tue Oct 15 1996 13:3413
52.4480CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Oct 15 1996 13:4310
52.4481LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Tue Oct 15 1996 13:566
52.4482PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Oct 15 1996 14:294
52.4483CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Oct 15 1996 14:393
52.4484LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Tue Oct 15 1996 14:415
52.4485ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Oct 15 1996 14:4824
52.4486LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Tue Oct 15 1996 14:525
52.4487WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Oct 15 1996 15:582
52.4488MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Tue Oct 15 1996 16:204
52.4489POLAR::RICHARDSONBitin' off more than I can spewTue Oct 15 1996 16:233
52.4490LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Tue Oct 15 1996 16:504
52.4491WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Oct 15 1996 17:041
52.4492CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Oct 16 1996 13:494
52.4493DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Oct 16 1996 18:1913
52.4494BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Oct 18 1996 13:577
52.4495LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Fri Oct 18 1996 14:052
52.4496CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsFri Oct 18 1996 14:104
52.4497LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Fri Oct 18 1996 14:415
52.4498CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsFri Oct 18 1996 14:461
52.4499BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Oct 18 1996 15:021
52.4500BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Fri Oct 18 1996 15:027
52.4501BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Oct 18 1996 15:076
52.4502POLAR::RICHARDSONBitin' off more than I can spewFri Oct 18 1996 15:101
52.4503ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberFri Oct 18 1996 15:144
52.4504LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Fri Oct 18 1996 15:232
52.4505ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberFri Oct 18 1996 15:314
52.4506If it were anyone else ....BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Fri Oct 18 1996 17:139
52.4507BULEAN::BANKSThink locally, act locallyFri Oct 18 1996 17:368
52.4508Holland's OpusYIELD::BARBIERISun Oct 20 1996 17:001
52.4509ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberMon Oct 21 1996 13:173
52.4510NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Oct 21 1996 14:304
52.4511SCASS1::BARBER_AYou're the one who's crazy!Mon Oct 21 1996 15:134
52.4512ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberTue Oct 22 1996 12:423
52.4513POLAR::RICHARDSONI made this!Tue Oct 22 1996 21:403
52.4514BUSY::SLABSubtract LAB, add TUD, invert nothingTue Oct 22 1996 21:403
52.4515POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideTue Oct 22 1996 21:464
52.4516POLAR::RICHARDSONI made this!Tue Oct 22 1996 22:022
52.4517BUSY::SLABSubtract LAB, add TUD, invert nothingTue Oct 22 1996 22:183
52.4518POLAR::RICHARDSONI made this!Tue Oct 22 1996 22:211
52.4519PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Oct 23 1996 01:533
52.4520ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberWed Oct 23 1996 13:085
52.4521SMARTT::JENNISONIt's all about soulWed Oct 23 1996 13:419
52.4522re: .4518ACISS1::SCHELTERWed Oct 23 1996 17:155
52.4523POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideWed Oct 23 1996 17:203
52.4524POLAR::RICHARDSONI made this!Wed Oct 23 1996 17:491
52.4525POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideWed Oct 23 1996 17:513
52.4526COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertWed Oct 23 1996 17:563
52.4527ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberWed Oct 23 1996 18:096
52.4528POLAR::RICHARDSONI made this!Wed Oct 23 1996 18:311
52.4529POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideWed Oct 23 1996 18:343
52.4530MOLAR::POWERSBill Powers ZKO2-3/L12 DTN381-2857Wed Oct 23 1996 18:471
52.4531BULEAN::BANKSAmerica is FerenginorFri Oct 25 1996 15:171
52.4532COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Oct 25 1996 21:173
52.4533LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Mon Oct 28 1996 13:252
52.4534CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageMon Oct 28 1996 14:434
52.4535SMURF::WALTERSMon Oct 28 1996 14:431
52.4536Nutty ProffessorKERNEL::FREKESExcuse me while I scratch my buttTue Oct 29 1996 12:535
52.4537GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeTue Oct 29 1996 14:537
52.4538LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Tue Oct 29 1996 14:552
52.4539GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeTue Oct 29 1996 16:207
52.4540ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberTue Oct 29 1996 16:464
52.4541LANDO::OLIVER_BLook in ya heaaaaaaaaaaaart!Tue Oct 29 1996 16:491
52.4542WAHOO::LEVESQUEIt's just a kiss awayTue Oct 29 1996 16:501
52.4543ACISS1::BATTISmz_debra fan club memberTue Oct 29 1996 17:192
52.4544BUSY::SLABSubtract LAB, add TUD, invert nothingTue Oct 29 1996 19:425
52.4545ACISS1::BATTISVending machines=food of the godsMon Nov 04 1996 12:272
52.4546ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Nov 04 1996 12:297
52.4547APACHE::KEITHDr. DeuceMon Nov 04 1996 13:198
52.4548BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 04 1996 15:354
52.4549POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 04 1996 15:541
52.4550SALEM::DODAGoodbye Gabriella...Mon Nov 04 1996 16:063
52.4551GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeMon Nov 04 1996 16:404
52.4552BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 04 1996 16:589
52.4553SMARTT::JENNISONHow high?Mon Nov 04 1996 16:598
52.4554Sleepers...GOJIRA::JESSOPMon Nov 04 1996 17:175
52.4555POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 04 1996 17:231
52.4556MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Mon Nov 04 1996 17:404
52.4557BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsMon Nov 04 1996 17:441
52.4558ACISS1::BATTISVending machines=food of the godsMon Nov 04 1996 18:022
52.4559BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsMon Nov 04 1996 18:051
52.4560CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageMon Nov 04 1996 22:235
52.4561COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Nov 04 1996 22:4312
52.4562POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 04 1996 22:442
52.4563POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 04 1996 22:482
52.4564BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 04 1996 22:538
52.4565CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageMon Nov 04 1996 22:577
52.4566SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoMon Nov 04 1996 23:124
52.4567POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 04 1996 23:2856
52.4568GENRAL::RALSTONK=tc^2Tue Nov 05 1996 13:034
52.4569POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 05 1996 13:061
52.4570BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert STue Nov 05 1996 13:0913
52.4571Ottowa?CTHU26::S_BURRIDGETue Nov 05 1996 13:111
52.4572POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 05 1996 13:113
52.4573GENRAL::RALSTONK=tc^2Tue Nov 05 1996 13:197
52.4574BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert STue Nov 05 1996 13:215
52.4575WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott itjTue Nov 05 1996 13:283
52.4576SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerTue Nov 05 1996 14:185
52.4577BSS::PROCTOR_RAwed FellowTue Nov 05 1996 14:281
52.4578WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott itjThu Nov 07 1996 12:546
52.4579POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideThu Nov 07 1996 12:553
52.4580BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SThu Nov 07 1996 13:303
52.4581JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Nov 07 1996 15:243
52.4582POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideThu Nov 07 1996 15:263
52.4583Braveheart was great!MILKWY::JACQUESThu Nov 07 1996 15:419
52.4584JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeThu Nov 07 1996 15:413
52.4585POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorThu Nov 07 1996 15:431
52.4586BSS::PROCTOR_RAwed FellowThu Nov 07 1996 15:443
52.4587CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayThu Nov 07 1996 15:474
52.4588OVRWKD::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQThu Nov 07 1996 15:522
52.4589POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorThu Nov 07 1996 15:531
52.4590SMURF::WALTERSThu Nov 07 1996 15:561
52.4591SMARTT::JENNISONHow high?Thu Nov 07 1996 16:015
52.4592You don't get it do you?CHEFS::UKSTATIONERYFri Nov 08 1996 08:4913
52.4595WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Nov 08 1996 10:243
52.4596WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott itjFri Nov 08 1996 10:292
52.4597oh, BTW, I LOVED the movie!!!FABSIX::P_OHALLORANgo mbeanfaigh dia sibhFri Nov 08 1996 10:316
52.4598lemme see yer papers...GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaFri Nov 08 1996 11:424
52.4599CHEFS::UKSTATIONERYFri Nov 08 1996 11:4517
52.4600CHEFS::UKSTATIONERYFri Nov 08 1996 11:477
52.4601DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Fri Nov 08 1996 13:164
52.4602PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Nov 08 1996 13:217
52.4603BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROFri Nov 08 1996 13:2511
52.4604or Pauley ShoreSALEM::DODAGoodbye Gabriella...Fri Nov 08 1996 13:270
52.4605CHEFS::UKSTATIONERYFri Nov 08 1996 13:2713
52.4606POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Nov 08 1996 13:311
52.4607PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Nov 08 1996 13:343
52.4608LANDO::OLIVER_BFri Nov 08 1996 13:413
52.4609NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Nov 08 1996 15:231
52.4610POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideFri Nov 08 1996 15:243
52.4611JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeFri Nov 08 1996 15:416
52.4612POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideFri Nov 08 1996 18:367
52.4613BULEAN::BANKSAmerica is FerenginorFri Nov 08 1996 18:381
52.4614POMPY::LESLIEAndy Leslie...still hereMon Nov 11 1996 05:352
52.4615CHEFS::UKSTATIONERYMon Nov 11 1996 06:516
52.4616LANDO::OLIVER_BMon Nov 11 1996 12:472
52.4617DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Mon Nov 11 1996 14:429
52.4618POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 14:452
52.4619BSS::PROCTOR_RFlushed... not blanched!Mon Nov 11 1996 14:451
52.4620POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 14:502
52.4621GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeMon Nov 11 1996 16:116
52.4622POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 16:121
52.4623POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideMon Nov 11 1996 16:143
52.4624BSS::PROCTOR_RFlushed... not blanched!Mon Nov 11 1996 16:2010
52.4625COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Nov 11 1996 16:253
52.4626BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 11 1996 16:599
52.4627POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 17:011
52.4628SCASS1::BARBER_AI wanna grow up just like youMon Nov 11 1996 17:031
52.4629BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 11 1996 17:139
52.4630NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Nov 11 1996 17:336
52.4631CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Nov 11 1996 17:4211
52.4632POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 17:442
52.4633BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 11 1996 17:554
52.4634PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 11 1996 18:006
52.4635CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Nov 11 1996 18:033
52.4636ACISS1::BATTISVending machines=food of the godsMon Nov 11 1996 18:043
52.4637BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 11 1996 18:075
52.4638Dances w/ Wolves, even better the 2nd time aroundMILKWY::JACQUESMon Nov 11 1996 18:3210
52.4639POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 18:333
52.4640LANDO::OLIVER_BMon Nov 11 1996 18:341
52.4641BSS::PROCTOR_RFlushed... not blanched!Mon Nov 11 1996 18:351
52.4642POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 18:364
52.4643POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideMon Nov 11 1996 18:3636
52.4644LANDO::OLIVER_BMon Nov 11 1996 18:393
52.4645awfulGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaMon Nov 11 1996 18:408
52.4646"It was great, Mary. Really."TLE::RALTOBridge to the 21st IndictmentMon Nov 11 1996 18:417
52.4647POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 18:428
52.4648BSS::PROCTOR_RFlushed... not blanched!Mon Nov 11 1996 18:4511
52.4649POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideMon Nov 11 1996 18:467
52.4650BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 11 1996 18:488
52.4651PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 11 1996 18:519
52.4652GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeMon Nov 11 1996 18:524
52.4653PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 11 1996 18:533
52.4654GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeMon Nov 11 1996 18:545
52.4656SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoMon Nov 11 1996 18:576
52.4657BSS::PROCTOR_RFlushed... not blanched!Mon Nov 11 1996 18:586
52.4658SALEM::DODAVisibly shaken, not stirredMon Nov 11 1996 18:5814
52.4659DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Mon Nov 11 1996 19:0018
52.4660POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 19:022
52.4661BSS::PROCTOR_RFlushed... not blanched!Mon Nov 11 1996 19:052
52.4662LANDO::OLIVER_BMon Nov 11 1996 19:052
52.4663BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 11 1996 19:106
52.4664POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 19:111
52.4665BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 11 1996 19:124
52.4666WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Mon Nov 11 1996 19:121
52.4667JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeMon Nov 11 1996 19:141
52.4668POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 19:151
52.4669BSS::PROCTOR_RFlushed... not blanched!Mon Nov 11 1996 19:163
52.4670WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Mon Nov 11 1996 19:184
52.4671BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 11 1996 19:183
52.4672BSS::PROCTOR_RFlushed... not blanched!Mon Nov 11 1996 19:203
52.4673POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 19:213
52.4674BUSY::SLABSubtract A, substitute O, invert SMon Nov 11 1996 19:246
52.4675BSS::PROCTOR_RFlushed... not blanched!Mon Nov 11 1996 19:255
52.4676WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Nov 12 1996 09:171
52.4677CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Nov 12 1996 12:118
52.4678BUSY::SLABStop the boat!Tue Nov 12 1996 13:115
52.4679POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 12 1996 13:155
52.4680BUSY::SLABStop the boat!Tue Nov 12 1996 13:239
52.4681SCASS1::BARBER_AI wanna grow up just like youTue Nov 12 1996 13:241
52.4682GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainTue Nov 12 1996 13:291
52.4683SCASS1::BARBER_AI wanna grow up just like youTue Nov 12 1996 13:301
52.4684BUSY::SLABStop the boat!Tue Nov 12 1996 13:325
52.4685GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeTue Nov 12 1996 13:545
52.4686MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Tue Nov 12 1996 14:322
52.4687POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 12 1996 14:331
52.4688LANDO::OLIVER_BTue Nov 12 1996 14:353
52.4689DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Tue Nov 12 1996 14:438
52.4690sheeshCSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Nov 12 1996 14:529
52.4691GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeTue Nov 12 1996 14:544
52.4692BUSY::SLABStop the boat!Tue Nov 12 1996 14:553
52.4693GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeTue Nov 12 1996 14:554
52.4694POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideTue Nov 12 1996 14:583
52.4695celebrate his diversityWAHOO::LEVESQUESpott itjTue Nov 12 1996 15:015
52.4696POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 12 1996 15:071
52.4697WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott itjTue Nov 12 1996 15:091
52.4698sorryCSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Nov 12 1996 15:164
52.4699POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 12 1996 15:173
52.4700POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideTue Nov 12 1996 15:193
52.4701BUSY::SLABStop the boat!Tue Nov 12 1996 15:195
52.4702POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideTue Nov 12 1996 15:217
52.4703MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Tue Nov 12 1996 15:504
52.4704ACISS1::BATTISVending machines=food of the godsTue Nov 12 1996 16:352
52.4705BUSY::SLABStop the boat!Tue Nov 12 1996 17:023
52.4706ACISS1::BATTISVending machines=food of the godsTue Nov 12 1996 17:054
52.4707CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Nov 14 1996 12:2617
52.4708RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Nov 14 1996 12:5817
52.4709CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Nov 14 1996 13:026
52.4710BUSY::SLABThailboat!!Thu Nov 14 1996 13:523
52.4711SMARTT::JENNISONHow high?Mon Nov 18 1996 15:5512
52.4712BUSY::SLABWhaddapairahogans!Mon Nov 18 1996 16:045
52.4713CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageMon Nov 18 1996 16:426
52.4714Still trying to make sense of the titleTLE::RALTOMon Nov 18 1996 18:0836
52.4715BUSY::SLABWhiplash!Mon Nov 18 1996 18:095
52.4716GOJIRA::JESSOPMon Nov 18 1996 18:102
52.4717BUSY::SLABWhose Line Is It Anyway?Mon Nov 18 1996 18:115
52.4718GOJIRA::JESSOPMon Nov 18 1996 18:221
52.4719LANDO::OLIVER_Blook to the swedes!Mon Nov 18 1996 18:252
52.4720NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Nov 18 1996 18:261
52.4721CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Nov 18 1996 18:294
52.4722PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 18 1996 18:304
52.4723Heck, on a good day *I* do Marvin's voice better :-)TLE::RALTOMon Nov 18 1996 18:3012
52.4724Another "forgot to mention"TLE::RALTOMon Nov 18 1996 18:4014
52.4725LANDO::OLIVER_Blook to the swedes!Mon Nov 18 1996 18:401
52.4726CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Nov 18 1996 18:4115
52.4727SMURF::WALTERSMon Nov 18 1996 18:534
52.4728BUSY::SLABWhose Line Is It Anyway?Mon Nov 18 1996 18:585
52.4729POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 18 1996 19:001
52.4730LANDO::OLIVER_Blook to the swedes!Mon Nov 18 1996 19:011
52.4731ACISS1::BATTISClueless in ChicagoMon Nov 18 1996 19:052
52.4732sadCTHU26::S_BURRIDGEMon Nov 18 1996 23:012
52.4733CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageTue Nov 19 1996 02:196
52.4734Why not see some of the best films in the theater?PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Nov 19 1996 12:546
52.4735CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageTue Nov 19 1996 16:296
52.4736WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott itjTue Nov 19 1996 16:471
52.4737POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 19 1996 16:481
52.4738NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Nov 19 1996 16:512
52.4739POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 19 1996 16:541
52.4740BUSY::SLABYour mother has an outie!!Tue Nov 19 1996 16:543
52.4741SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Nov 19 1996 16:571
52.4742LANDO::OLIVER_Blook to the swedes!Tue Nov 19 1996 16:571
52.4743POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 19 1996 16:581
52.4744BUSY::SLABYour mother has an outie!!Tue Nov 19 1996 16:585
52.4745POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 19 1996 16:591
52.4746LANDO::OLIVER_Blook to the swedes!Tue Nov 19 1996 17:003
52.4747SMURF::WALTERSTue Nov 19 1996 17:001
52.4748BUSY::SLABch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haTue Nov 19 1996 17:305
52.4749DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Nov 20 1996 16:437
52.4750It had its moments, I guess :-)TLE::RALTOBridge to the 21st SpinWed Nov 20 1996 17:3311
52.4751DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Nov 20 1996 19:229
52.4752"resistance is futile"GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaWed Nov 20 1996 19:244
52.4753DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Wed Nov 20 1996 19:437
52.4754DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Nov 20 1996 19:545
52.4755GOJIRA::JESSOPWed Nov 20 1996 20:131
52.4756BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROWed Nov 20 1996 20:5014
52.4757DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Thu Nov 21 1996 13:1113
52.4758BUSY::SLABCatch you later!!Thu Nov 21 1996 13:276
52.4759DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Thu Nov 21 1996 13:327
52.4760BUSY::SLABCatch you later!!Thu Nov 21 1996 13:5312
52.4761DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Thu Nov 21 1996 14:569
52.4762ACISS1::BATTISThu Nov 21 1996 15:004
52.4763BUSY::SLABConsume feces and expire.Thu Nov 21 1996 15:078
52.4764NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Nov 21 1996 15:383
52.4765SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerThu Nov 21 1996 16:039
52.4766PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Nov 21 1996 16:064
52.4767NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Nov 21 1996 16:101
52.4768POMPY::LESLIEAndy Leslie, DTN 847 6586Thu Nov 21 1996 16:134
52.4769SMURF::WALTERSThu Nov 21 1996 16:151
52.4770PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Nov 21 1996 16:255
52.4771SMURF::WALTERSThu Nov 21 1996 16:271
52.4772DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Thu Nov 21 1996 16:2814
52.4773NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Nov 21 1996 16:4011
52.4774SMURF::WALTERSThu Nov 21 1996 16:452
52.4775BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROThu Nov 21 1996 16:5542
52.4776NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Nov 21 1996 16:582
52.4777BUSY::SLABCrash, burn ... when will I learn?Thu Nov 21 1996 17:164
52.4778LANDO::OLIVER_Blook to the swedes!Thu Nov 21 1996 17:292
52.4779NETRIX::thomasThe Code WarriorThu Nov 21 1996 18:081
52.4780BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROThu Nov 21 1996 18:2211
52.4781Still it will probably be a fun movie...USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Thu Nov 21 1996 18:3919
52.4782BUSY::SLABDILLIGAFThu Nov 21 1996 18:558
52.4783DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Thu Nov 21 1996 19:2931
52.4784That _was_ two litters, wasn't it?USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Thu Nov 21 1996 19:372
52.4785NETRIX::thomasThe Code WarriorThu Nov 21 1996 19:506
52.4786BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROThu Nov 21 1996 22:4697
52.4787DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Thu Nov 21 1996 23:0712
52.4788Save Dogs? Save yourlife first!USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Thu Nov 21 1996 23:2717
52.4789SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerFri Nov 22 1996 01:1521
52.4790WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Nov 22 1996 09:3816
52.4791CHEFS::UKSTATIONERYcaw blimey, it's Merry Poppuns!Fri Nov 22 1996 09:5013
52.4792I used to buy the mixed breed nonsense, tooUSPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Fri Nov 22 1996 11:324
52.4793ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQFri Nov 22 1996 11:382
52.4794DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Fri Nov 22 1996 12:3037
52.4795GENRAL::RALSTONK=tc^2Fri Nov 22 1996 12:329
52.4796BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROFri Nov 22 1996 12:4011
52.4797animals that go where they're sposed toGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaFri Nov 22 1996 12:446
52.4798DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Fri Nov 22 1996 12:4417
52.4799BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROFri Nov 22 1996 12:4521
52.4800BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROFri Nov 22 1996 12:5019
52.4801POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Nov 22 1996 12:501
52.4802BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROFri Nov 22 1996 12:5213
52.4803BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROFri Nov 22 1996 12:5617
52.4804BUSY::SLABDon't drink the (toilet) water.Fri Nov 22 1996 13:093
52.4805NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Nov 22 1996 13:401
52.4806WMOIS::GIROUARD_CFri Nov 22 1996 13:452
52.4807ACISS1::BATTISFri Nov 22 1996 13:512
52.4808Wouldn't be the first time...USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Sat Nov 23 1996 01:013
52.4809The English Patient?USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Sat Nov 23 1996 01:1012
52.4810BOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveMon Nov 25 1996 09:415
52.4811yastmGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaMon Nov 25 1996 11:427
52.4812CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Nov 25 1996 12:2013
52.4813BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Mon Nov 25 1996 12:377
52.4814SMURF::WALTERSMon Nov 25 1996 12:407
52.4815POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 25 1996 12:404
52.4816CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Nov 25 1996 12:4818
52.4817BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Mon Nov 25 1996 12:499
52.4818CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Nov 25 1996 12:5011
52.4819not a terrible seriesGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaMon Nov 25 1996 12:528
52.4820DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Mon Nov 25 1996 12:5913
52.4821CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Nov 25 1996 13:119
52.4822BUSY::SLABGTI 16V - dust thy neighbor!!Mon Nov 25 1996 13:235
52.4823Medley of moviesTLE::RALTOBridge to the 21st Draft BoardMon Nov 25 1996 13:3053
52.4824CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Nov 25 1996 13:368
52.4825CC FarmLANDO::OLIVER_Bgrindleproot hanglebungedyMon Nov 25 1996 13:384
52.4826cold comfort farmPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Nov 25 1996 13:519
52.4827WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Nov 25 1996 14:515
52.4828BUSY::SLABGood Heavens,Commander,what DID you do?Mon Nov 25 1996 14:534
52.4829Star Wars...BOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveMon Nov 25 1996 14:597
52.4830POMPY::LESLIEPersonal magnetism erases floppiesTue Nov 26 1996 10:181
52.4831WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjTue Nov 26 1996 10:252
52.4832POMPY::LESLIEPersonal magnetism erases floppiesTue Nov 26 1996 10:441
52.4833WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjTue Nov 26 1996 11:062
52.4834POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 26 1996 12:061
52.4835SMURF::WALTERSTue Nov 26 1996 12:1610
52.4836POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 26 1996 14:082
52.4837DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Nov 26 1996 15:352
52.4838POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Nov 26 1996 15:361
52.4839the big screenSWAM1::MEUSE_DATue Nov 26 1996 21:3510
52.4840CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Nov 29 1996 02:4719
52.4841ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Dec 02 1996 11:463
52.4842i have high hopes for "mars attacks"...GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaMon Dec 02 1996 13:129
52.4843WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Mon Dec 02 1996 13:154
52.4844ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQMon Dec 02 1996 13:184
52.4845POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Dec 02 1996 13:265
52.4846BULEAN::BANKSA prozac a day keeps the mailman at bayMon Dec 02 1996 13:285
52.4847Tiny Toy StoriesPERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Dec 02 1996 13:3840
52.4848COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Dec 02 1996 13:526
52.4849BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Mon Dec 02 1996 14:295
52.4850BUSY::SLABGrandchildren of the DamnedMon Dec 02 1996 14:458
52.4851CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Dec 02 1996 14:507
52.4852Spaceballs - The Movie - The Bad Movie - The Awful Movie....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Dec 02 1996 14:599
52.4853SMURF::WALTERSMon Dec 02 1996 15:051
52.4854NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Dec 02 1996 15:121
52.4855SMURF::WALTERSMon Dec 02 1996 15:171
52.4856BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Mon Dec 02 1996 16:054
52.4857POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Dec 02 1996 16:081
52.4858BUSY::SLABch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haMon Dec 02 1996 16:115
52.4859BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Mon Dec 02 1996 16:365
52.4860DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Dec 02 1996 16:5111
52.4861I forget....WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comMon Dec 02 1996 18:1611
52.4862PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Dec 02 1996 18:183
52.4863WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comMon Dec 02 1996 18:211
52.4864bbotdPERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Dec 02 1996 18:594
52.4865WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comMon Dec 02 1996 19:102
52.4866PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Dec 02 1996 19:215
52.4867CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageTue Dec 03 1996 11:505
52.4868TROOA::BUTKOVICHeschew obfuscationTue Dec 03 1996 14:145
52.4869LANDO::OLIVER_Burban camperTue Dec 03 1996 14:172
52.4870CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Dec 03 1996 14:197
52.4871BUSY::SLABAnd when one of us is gone ...Tue Dec 03 1996 14:2410
52.4872POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Dec 03 1996 15:111
52.4873BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Tue Dec 03 1996 15:123
52.4874WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comTue Dec 03 1996 15:143
52.4875BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Tue Dec 03 1996 15:163
52.4876CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Dec 03 1996 15:268
52.4877BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Tue Dec 03 1996 15:293
52.4878POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Dec 03 1996 15:341
52.4879TROOA::BUTKOVICHeschew obfuscationTue Dec 03 1996 15:351
52.4880BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Tue Dec 03 1996 15:378
52.4881MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Tue Dec 03 1996 15:471
52.4882PMROAD::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideTue Dec 03 1996 15:493
52.4883DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Tue Dec 03 1996 15:496
52.4884BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Tue Dec 03 1996 15:556
52.4885Home for the HolidaysUSPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Tue Dec 03 1996 15:5514
52.4886BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Tue Dec 03 1996 16:006
52.4887BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.yvv.com/decplus/Tue Dec 03 1996 18:234
52.4888BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Tue Dec 03 1996 18:256
52.4889TROOA::BUTKOVICHeschew obfuscationTue Dec 03 1996 19:165
52.4890POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideTue Dec 03 1996 19:194
52.4891LANDO::OLIVER_Burban camperTue Dec 03 1996 19:241
52.4892SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoTue Dec 03 1996 21:275
52.4893POMPY::LESLIEWed Dec 04 1996 08:011
52.4894BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Dec 04 1996 10:325
52.4895POMPY::LESLIEWed Dec 04 1996 10:363
52.4896BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Dec 04 1996 10:386
52.4897POMPY::LESLIEWed Dec 04 1996 10:391
52.4898BUSY::SLABCan you hear the drums, Fernando?Wed Dec 04 1996 13:197
52.4899BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Thu Dec 05 1996 02:509
52.4900POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideTue Dec 10 1996 01:366
52.4901CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageTue Dec 10 1996 12:004
52.4902CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Dec 10 1996 16:545
52.4903SCASS1::BARBER_Abang bang you're deadTue Dec 10 1996 17:033
52.4904NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Dec 10 1996 17:051
52.4905SCASS1::BARBER_Abang bang you're deadTue Dec 10 1996 17:111
52.4906CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Dec 10 1996 17:133
52.4907S'trueWRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comTue Dec 10 1996 17:153
52.4908PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Dec 10 1996 17:173
52.4909LANDO::OLIVER_Burban camperTue Dec 10 1996 17:211
52.4910SCASS1::BARBER_Abang bang you're deadTue Dec 10 1996 17:213
52.4911WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comTue Dec 10 1996 17:251
52.4912CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageTue Dec 10 1996 17:277
52.4913NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Dec 10 1996 17:281
52.4914CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageTue Dec 10 1996 17:305
52.4916SMURF::WALTERSTue Dec 10 1996 17:321
52.4917GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainTue Dec 10 1996 17:321
52.4918re: .4912 One great character, one not great movie....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Dec 10 1996 17:429
52.4919BUSY::SLABBe gone - you have no powers hereTue Dec 10 1996 17:436
52.4920PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Dec 10 1996 17:455
52.4921WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comTue Dec 10 1996 17:5016
52.4922SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Dec 10 1996 17:545
52.4923BUSY::SLABBlack No. 1Tue Dec 10 1996 18:214
52.4924CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageTue Dec 10 1996 18:2310
52.4925GOJIRA::JESSOPTue Dec 10 1996 18:293
52.4926DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Tue Dec 10 1996 18:314
52.4927'here' = 'hero'BUSY::SLABBlack No. 1Tue Dec 10 1996 18:326
52.4928GOJIRA::JESSOPTue Dec 10 1996 18:371
52.4929CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Dec 10 1996 18:393
52.4930SMURF::WALTERSTue Dec 10 1996 18:391
52.4931GOJIRA::JESSOPTue Dec 10 1996 18:391
52.4932CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Dec 10 1996 18:403
52.4933GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeWed Dec 11 1996 12:387
52.4934BUSY::SLABCrackerWed Dec 11 1996 13:514
52.4935TROOA::BUTKOVICHeschew obfuscationWed Dec 11 1996 16:303
52.4936POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorWed Dec 11 1996 16:471
52.4937BUSY::SLABDILLIGAFWed Dec 11 1996 17:066
52.4938Karen Carpenter reduxWRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comWed Dec 11 1996 17:102
52.4939BUSY::SLABDancin' on CoalsWed Dec 11 1996 17:143
52.4940ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownWed Dec 11 1996 19:172
52.4941POMPY::LESLIEThu Dec 12 1996 05:535
52.4942POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideThu Dec 12 1996 16:05106
52.4943WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comThu Dec 12 1996 16:149
52.4944BAHHHHH humbug! :-)TLE::RALTOBridge to the 21st Excessively Long PersonalThu Dec 12 1996 16:1820
52.4945WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comThu Dec 12 1996 16:193
52.4946HANNAH::MODICAJourneyman noter, on borrowed time.Thu Dec 12 1996 16:214
52.4947CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayThu Dec 12 1996 16:317
52.4948LANDO::OLIVER_Burban camperThu Dec 12 1996 16:341
52.4949POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideThu Dec 12 1996 16:383
52.4950LANDO::OLIVER_Burban camperThu Dec 12 1996 16:381
52.4951BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteThu Dec 12 1996 16:407
52.4952WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comThu Dec 12 1996 16:4515
52.4953.4943PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Dec 12 1996 16:455
52.4954Demented sense of humor... maybe just plain dementedTLE::RALTOBridge to the 21st Excessively Long PersonalThu Dec 12 1996 16:5820
52.4955LANDO::OLIVER_Burban camperThu Dec 12 1996 17:002
52.4956CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayThu Dec 12 1996 17:073
52.4957BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteThu Dec 12 1996 17:097
52.4958ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownThu Dec 12 1996 17:204
52.4959Must be a pod personCONSLT::GRIFFITHGettin' whacked on Scooby Snacks.Thu Dec 12 1996 17:2118
52.4960But I'll watch the California Raisins' Special occasionallyTLE::RALTOBridge to the 21st Excessively Long PersonalThu Dec 12 1996 17:478
52.4961POWDML::HANGGELIsweet &amp; juicy on the insideThu Dec 12 1996 17:483
52.4962MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Thu Dec 12 1996 18:206
52.4963WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comThu Dec 12 1996 18:2214
52.4964The Cowboy way........WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comThu Dec 12 1996 18:2717
52.4965POMPY::LESLIEFri Dec 13 1996 09:064
52.4966how about "Arsenic & old lace" another classic IMHOFABSIX::P_OHALLORANgo mbeanfaigh dia sibhFri Dec 13 1996 10:384
52.4967ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQFri Dec 13 1996 11:272
52.4968ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Dec 13 1996 11:377
52.4969GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeFri Dec 13 1996 11:395
52.4970POMPY::LESLIEFri Dec 13 1996 12:584
52.4971POWDML::HANGGELIRat in trainingFri Dec 13 1996 13:142
52.4972POMPY::LESLIEFri Dec 13 1996 13:288
52.4973WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comFri Dec 13 1996 13:471
52.4974MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Fri Dec 13 1996 14:391
52.4975ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Dec 13 1996 15:273
52.4976FABSIX::P_OHALLORANIt's been a hard days nightSat Dec 14 1996 04:1114
52.4977WRKSYS::WALLACEhttp://macca.eng.pko.dec.comMon Dec 16 1996 10:503
52.4978POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Dec 16 1996 13:184
52.4979ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQMon Dec 16 1996 14:233
52.4980TROOA::BUTKOVICHeschew obfuscationMon Dec 16 1996 21:4523
52.4981ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownWed Dec 18 1996 11:383
52.4982POMPY::LESLIEWed Dec 18 1996 12:331
52.4983CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Dec 18 1996 13:006
52.4984ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownWed Dec 18 1996 13:182
52.4985CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Dec 18 1996 13:283
52.4986ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQWed Dec 18 1996 13:344
52.4987CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitThu Dec 19 1996 15:204
52.4988BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Thu Dec 19 1996 15:423
52.4989TROOA::BUTKOVICHeschew obfuscationThu Dec 19 1996 16:077
52.4990found itSX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoThu Dec 19 1996 21:255
52.4991SMURF::WALTERSFri Dec 20 1996 14:446
52.4992BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Dec 20 1996 14:562
52.4993MKOTS3::JMARTINBe A Victor..Not a Victim!Fri Dec 20 1996 14:571
52.4994An idea whose time came and went long, long agoTLE::RALTOBridge to the 21st Tickle Me BillmoFri Dec 20 1996 15:046
52.4995Th big score by Beavis & ButtheadSWAM1::MEUSE_DAFri Dec 20 1996 15:148
52.4996A man of tasteNOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Dec 20 1996 15:361
52.4997POMPY::LESLIEFri Dec 20 1996 15:403
52.4998NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Fri Dec 20 1996 15:551
52.4999directed and wrote?SWAM1::MEUSE_DAFri Dec 20 1996 16:434
52.5000WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjFri Dec 20 1996 17:005
52.5001SMURF::WALTERSFri Dec 20 1996 17:044
52.5002\BULEAN::BANKSOrthogonality is your friendFri Dec 20 1996 17:2310
52.5003TROOA::BUTKOVICHeschew obfuscationFri Dec 20 1996 21:045
52.5004also watched it, btwCSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each daySat Dec 21 1996 00:4710
52.5005lame, I know. I'm tired...TROOA::BUTKOVICHon a one way trip to TimbuktuSat Dec 21 1996 04:462
52.5006FargoYIELD::BARBIERISun Dec 22 1996 20:456
52.5007?USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Sun Dec 22 1996 20:476
52.5008Looking for A Movie TitleYIELD::BARBIERISun Dec 22 1996 20:4814
52.5009Is it available on Video?USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Sun Dec 22 1996 20:593
52.5010stuck out like a sore thumbEVMS::MORONEYPutting the FUN back in funeral!'Sun Dec 22 1996 21:387
52.5011USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Sun Dec 22 1996 21:482
52.5012BULEAN::BANKSOrthogonality is your friendMon Dec 23 1996 11:121
52.5013PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Dec 23 1996 11:133
52.5014CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsMon Dec 23 1996 12:451
52.5015WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Dec 23 1996 13:064
52.5016ACISS1::SCHELTERMon Dec 23 1996 13:115
52.5017WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Dec 23 1996 13:231
52.5018BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Dec 23 1996 13:3217
52.5019SMARTT::JENNISONGod and sinners, reconciledMon Dec 23 1996 13:324
52.5020SMARTT::JENNISONGod and sinners, reconciledMon Dec 23 1996 13:347
52.5021POMPY::LESLIEMon Dec 23 1996 13:341
52.5022BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Dec 23 1996 13:408
52.5023CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Dec 23 1996 13:445
52.5024SMARTT::JENNISONGod and sinners, reconciledMon Dec 23 1996 14:216
52.5025WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Dec 23 1996 14:215
52.5026BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Dec 23 1996 15:106
52.5027ACISS1::SCHELTERMon Dec 23 1996 16:084
52.5028CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Dec 23 1996 17:076
52.5029COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Dec 23 1996 17:221
52.5030LANDO::OLIVER_Burban camperMon Dec 23 1996 17:252
52.5031COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Dec 23 1996 17:261
52.5032Hold on..CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Dec 23 1996 17:423
52.5033Ja, Thanks!YIELD::BARBIERIMon Dec 23 1996 18:078
52.5034NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Dec 24 1996 12:375
52.5035MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyTue Dec 24 1996 15:1310
52.5036SMURF::WALTERSTue Dec 24 1996 15:151
52.5037Another minor mystery solved, Merry CharismasTLE::RALTOBridge to the 21st Mice PieTue Dec 24 1996 15:464
52.5038BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Dec 24 1996 16:0811
52.5039BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Dec 24 1996 16:1225
52.5040GOJIRA::JESSOPTue Dec 24 1996 16:121
52.5041NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Dec 24 1996 16:143
52.5042MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyTue Dec 24 1996 16:3911
52.5043BUSY::SLABForget the doctor - get me a nurse!Tue Dec 24 1996 16:553
52.5044MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyTue Dec 24 1996 16:561
52.5045BUSY::SLABForget the doctor - get me a nurse!Tue Dec 24 1996 16:568
52.5046POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityThu Dec 26 1996 01:058
52.5047BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Thu Dec 26 1996 13:373
52.5048POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityThu Dec 26 1996 13:425
52.5049BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Thu Dec 26 1996 13:483
52.5050CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageThu Dec 26 1996 15:015
52.5051ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownThu Dec 26 1996 15:393
52.5052MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyThu Dec 26 1996 19:241
52.5053COOKIE::MUNNSdaveFri Dec 27 1996 14:023
52.5054CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsFri Dec 27 1996 14:164
52.5055Third word, 'a', should be 'at'. Better, Mike? 8^)BUSY::SLABCareer Opportunity Week at DECFri Dec 27 1996 14:186
52.5056GOJIRA::JESSOPFri Dec 27 1996 14:212
52.5057BUSY::SLABCatch you later!!Fri Dec 27 1996 14:223
52.5058CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsFri Dec 27 1996 14:243
52.5059GOJIRA::JESSOPFri Dec 27 1996 14:264
52.5060CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Dec 30 1996 13:0811
52.5061Good movieSALEM::DODAHow could we know that promises end?Mon Dec 30 1996 13:215
52.5062BUSY::SLABDogbert's New Ruling Class: 150KMon Dec 30 1996 13:238
52.5063CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Dec 30 1996 13:3014
52.5064GOOEY::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Mon Dec 30 1996 13:366
52.5065GOJIRA::JESSOPMon Dec 30 1996 13:411
52.5066COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Dec 30 1996 13:421
52.5067CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Dec 30 1996 13:438
52.5068CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Dec 30 1996 13:433
52.5069BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Dec 30 1996 13:463
52.5070WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Dec 30 1996 14:282
52.5071ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Dec 30 1996 14:412
52.5072SMURF::WALTERSMon Dec 30 1996 14:475
52.5073NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Dec 30 1996 14:511
52.5074CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Dec 30 1996 14:523
52.5075TROOA::BUTKOVICHI'll be there in a jiffy!Mon Dec 30 1996 15:595
52.5076LANDO::OLIVER_Burban camperMon Dec 30 1996 16:021
52.5077BUSY::SLABDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Dec 30 1996 16:055
52.5078TROOA::BUTKOVICHI'll be there in a jiffy!Mon Dec 30 1996 16:081
52.5079BUSY::SLABDuster :== idiot driver magnetMon Dec 30 1996 16:203
52.5080LANDO::OLIVER_Burban camperMon Dec 30 1996 16:246
52.5081WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Dec 30 1996 16:421
52.5082POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityMon Dec 30 1996 16:513
52.5083GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeMon Dec 30 1996 16:524
52.5084BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Dec 30 1996 16:538
52.5085RE: raqBUSY::SLABDuster :== idiot driver magnetMon Dec 30 1996 16:535
52.5086DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Dec 30 1996 17:595
52.5087POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityTue Dec 31 1996 00:384
52.5088CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Dec 31 1996 01:5811
52.5089POMPY::LESLIETue Dec 31 1996 06:396
52.5090ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Dec 31 1996 11:442
52.5091My Fellow AmericansSHRCTR::PJOHNSONVaya con huevos.Tue Dec 31 1996 11:514
52.5092BUSY::SLABGTI 16V - dust thy neighbor!!Tue Dec 31 1996 13:4714
52.5093DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Tue Dec 31 1996 13:544
52.5094ShineUSPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Tue Dec 31 1996 14:186
52.5095The English PatientUSPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Tue Dec 31 1996 14:229
52.5096LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againTue Dec 31 1996 14:271
52.5097BUSY::SLABGood Heavens,Commander,what DID you do?Tue Dec 31 1996 16:037
52.5098POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityTue Dec 31 1996 16:043
52.5099NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Dec 31 1996 16:071
52.5100BUSY::SLABGood Heavens,Commander,what DID you do?Tue Dec 31 1996 16:096
52.5101POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityTue Dec 31 1996 16:123
52.5102GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeTue Dec 31 1996 16:169
52.5103BUSY::SLABGood Heavens,Commander,what DID you do?Tue Dec 31 1996 16:1816
52.5104SMARTT::JENNISONGod and sinners, reconciledTue Dec 31 1996 16:194
52.5105BUSY::SLABGood Heavens,Commander,what DID you do?Tue Dec 31 1996 16:209
52.5106POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityTue Dec 31 1996 16:214
52.5107SMARTT::JENNISONGod and sinners, reconciledTue Dec 31 1996 16:226
52.5108CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Dec 31 1996 16:251
52.5109BUSY::SLABGood Heavens,Commander,what DID you do?Tue Dec 31 1996 16:279
52.5110ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Dec 31 1996 17:413
52.5111SCASS1::BARBER_Abang bang you're deadTue Dec 31 1996 17:433
52.5112ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Dec 31 1996 17:452
52.5113SCASS1::BARBER_Abang bang you're deadTue Dec 31 1996 17:451
52.5114BUSY::SLABGrandchildren of the DamnedTue Dec 31 1996 17:533
52.5115FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Dec 31 1996 18:256
52.5116POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityTue Dec 31 1996 18:313
52.5117BUSY::SLABGreat baby! Delicious!!Tue Dec 31 1996 18:343
52.5118ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Dec 31 1996 18:373
52.5119SCASS1::BARBER_AAre you happy now?Tue Dec 31 1996 18:371
52.5120ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Dec 31 1996 18:412
52.5121POMPY::LESLIEThu Jan 02 1997 06:516
52.5122GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeThu Jan 02 1997 11:3614
52.5123SMURF::WALTERSThu Jan 02 1997 11:537
52.5124CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayThu Jan 02 1997 12:0311
52.5125POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityThu Jan 02 1997 12:178
52.5126Hard to believe Ladies and Gentlemen!WMOIS::WEIERKeep those wings spinning!Thu Jan 02 1997 12:225
52.5127GOJIRA::JESSOPThu Jan 02 1997 12:304
52.5128WMOIS::GIROUARD_CThu Jan 02 1997 13:001
52.5129POMPY::LESLIEThu Jan 02 1997 13:062
52.5130The Philadelphia StoryCTHU26::S_BURRIDGEThu Jan 02 1997 13:356
52.5131POMPY::LESLIEThu Jan 02 1997 13:461
52.5132BUSY::SLABBasket CaseThu Jan 02 1997 14:4210
52.5133WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjThu Jan 02 1997 15:201
52.5134COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Jan 02 1997 15:211
52.5135SMURF::WALTERSThu Jan 02 1997 15:211
52.5136WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjThu Jan 02 1997 15:231
52.5137BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Thu Jan 02 1997 21:489
52.5138GOJIRA::JESSOPFri Jan 03 1997 12:045
52.5139TROOA::BUTKOVICHoski wee wee, oski wah wahFri Jan 03 1997 13:312
52.5140BUSY::SLABCrash, burn ... when will I learn?Fri Jan 03 1997 13:514
52.5141BRAT::CURRANFri Jan 03 1997 14:315
52.5142CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Jan 03 1997 14:328
52.5143POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Jan 03 1997 14:412
52.5144BUSY::SLABCrazy Cooter comin' atcha!!Fri Jan 03 1997 14:453
52.5145LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 03 1997 14:461
52.5146BUSY::SLABCrazy Cooter comin' atcha!!Fri Jan 03 1997 14:473
52.5147LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 03 1997 14:491
52.5148GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeFri Jan 03 1997 15:053
52.5149TROOA::BUTKOVICHoski wee wee, oski wah wahFri Jan 03 1997 15:066
52.5150CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsFri Jan 03 1997 15:232
52.5151WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjFri Jan 03 1997 15:263
52.5152POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Jan 03 1997 15:533
52.5153ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Jan 03 1997 16:302
52.5154COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Jan 03 1997 16:334
52.5155CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsMon Jan 06 1997 15:3217
52.5156CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Jan 06 1997 15:344
52.5157PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 06 1997 15:347
52.5158TROOA::BUTKOVICHoski wee wee, oski wah wahMon Jan 06 1997 15:382
52.5159LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Jan 06 1997 15:494
52.5160PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 06 1997 15:524
52.5161LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Jan 06 1997 15:555
52.5162POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityMon Jan 06 1997 15:563
52.5163mutually inclusive ;-)LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Jan 06 1997 16:001
52.5164LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Jan 06 1997 16:062
52.5165DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Jan 06 1997 16:388
52.5166SMART2::JENNISONGod and sinners, reconciledMon Jan 06 1997 16:4411
52.5167PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 06 1997 16:489
52.5168BUSY::SLABFUBARMon Jan 06 1997 16:568
52.5169PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 06 1997 17:036
52.5170FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jan 06 1997 17:055
52.5171BUSY::SLABFUBARMon Jan 06 1997 17:085
52.5172DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Jan 06 1997 18:395
52.5173BUSY::SLABForget the doctor - get me a nurse!Mon Jan 06 1997 18:468
52.5174POMPY::LESLIEDigital: the ohm of futile resistanceTue Jan 07 1997 06:056
52.5175not everybody's bagGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaTue Jan 07 1997 11:286
52.5176GOJIRA::JESSOPTue Jan 07 1997 12:591
52.5177BUSY::SLABGreat baby! Delicious!!Tue Jan 07 1997 14:093
52.5178The American PresidentBOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveTue Jan 07 1997 15:4018
52.5179POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Jan 07 1997 15:466
52.5180GOJIRA::JESSOPTue Jan 07 1997 15:494
52.5181POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Jan 07 1997 15:521
52.5182BUSY::SLABA cross upon her bedroom wall ...Tue Jan 07 1997 15:545
52.5183POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Jan 07 1997 16:011
52.5184NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jan 07 1997 16:071
52.5185POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Jan 07 1997 16:131
52.5186BUSY::SLABA cross upon her bedroom wall ...Tue Jan 07 1997 16:145
52.5187yTROOA::TEMPLETONOut at homeTue Jan 07 1997 18:2510
52.5188SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Jan 07 1997 18:536
52.5189NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jan 07 1997 18:561
52.5190SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Jan 07 1997 18:571
52.5191It's a dirty job, etc.TLE::RALTOLeggo My LegoTue Jan 07 1997 19:437
52.5192BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteTue Jan 07 1997 20:586
52.5193WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Jan 08 1997 11:346
52.5194PhiladelphiaBOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveWed Jan 08 1997 11:448
52.5195SMART2::JENNISONGod and sinners, reconciledWed Jan 08 1997 12:069
52.5196SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Wed Jan 08 1997 12:486
52.5197BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Jan 08 1997 12:531
52.5198ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownWed Jan 08 1997 13:022
52.5199NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jan 08 1997 13:071
52.5200The other languageSMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Wed Jan 08 1997 13:096
52.5201BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Jan 08 1997 13:111
52.5202BUSY::SLABAlways a Best Man, never a groomWed Jan 08 1997 13:307
52.5203SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Wed Jan 08 1997 13:329
52.5204BUSY::SLABAlways a Best Man, never a groomWed Jan 08 1997 13:438
52.5205WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Jan 08 1997 13:451
52.5206GOJIRA::JESSOPWed Jan 08 1997 14:021
52.5207MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyWed Jan 08 1997 14:2913
52.5208BUSY::SLABAnd when one of us is gone ...Wed Jan 08 1997 14:358
52.5209WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jan 08 1997 14:431
52.5210I've never heard of it...TROOA::BUTKOVICHoski wee wee, oski wah wahWed Jan 08 1997 14:532
52.5211SALEM::DODAChairman of the BoredWed Jan 08 1997 14:531
52.5212APACHE::KEITHDr. DeuceWed Jan 08 1997 15:195
52.5213GOJIRA::JESSOPWed Jan 08 1997 15:324
52.5214SMURF::WALTERSWed Jan 08 1997 15:333
52.5215PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jan 08 1997 15:423
52.5216GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainWed Jan 08 1997 15:454
52.5217SMURF::WALTERSWed Jan 08 1997 15:461
52.5218GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainWed Jan 08 1997 15:471
52.5219Maybe tonight... (I've been saying that for 2 weeks now)BOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveWed Jan 08 1997 15:4910
52.5220GAVEL::JANDROWPartly to Mostly BlondeWed Jan 08 1997 16:026
52.5221"Relic"USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Wed Jan 08 1997 17:295
52.5222ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownWed Jan 08 1997 17:302
52.5223LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againWed Jan 08 1997 17:343
52.5224BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Jan 08 1997 17:425
52.5225SMURF::WALTERSWed Jan 08 1997 18:084
52.5226MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyWed Jan 08 1997 18:3817
52.5227SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerWed Jan 08 1997 19:345
52.5228BUSY::SLABBaroque: when you're out of MonetWed Jan 08 1997 19:4412
52.5229BULEAN::BANKSOrthogonality is your friendThu Jan 09 1997 12:174
52.5230BUSY::SLABCatch you later!!Thu Jan 09 1997 17:056
52.5231The RelicSWAM1::MEUSE_DAFri Jan 10 1997 17:1917
52.5232Relic ..cont'dSWAM1::MEUSE_DAFri Jan 10 1997 17:305
52.5233SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Fri Jan 10 1997 17:313
52.5234SSDEVO::RALSTONK=tc^2Fri Jan 10 1997 17:521
52.5235Stemmed disasterTLE::RALTOLeggo My LegoFri Jan 10 1997 19:076
52.5236pation!POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityFri Jan 10 1997 19:212
52.5237TROOA::BUTKOVICHoski wee wee, oski wah wahSun Jan 12 1997 17:125
52.5238POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorSun Jan 12 1997 19:481
52.5239BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Jan 13 1997 01:063
52.5240CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Jan 13 1997 01:3211
52.5241TROOA::BUTKOVICHoski wee wee, oski wah wahMon Jan 13 1997 04:205
52.5242WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Jan 13 1997 11:592
52.5243ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Jan 13 1997 12:052
52.5244COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Jan 13 1997 12:175
52.5245not bad as historyGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaMon Jan 13 1997 12:256
52.5246SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Jan 13 1997 12:409
52.5247MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyMon Jan 13 1997 13:093
52.5248Monster vs MadonnaSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Jan 13 1997 15:028
52.5249POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Jan 13 1997 15:031
52.5250LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Jan 13 1997 15:211
52.5251PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Jan 13 1997 15:545
52.5252LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Jan 13 1997 15:595
52.5253BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Jan 13 1997 16:137
52.5254CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Jan 13 1997 16:508
52.5255GOJIRA::JESSOPMon Jan 13 1997 18:004
52.5256brain stem chewSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Jan 13 1997 18:026
52.5257GOJIRA::JESSOPMon Jan 13 1997 18:082
52.5258COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertMon Jan 13 1997 19:043
52.5259SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Jan 13 1997 20:381
52.5260Braveheart, FinallyBOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveTue Jan 14 1997 11:448
52.5261ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Jan 14 1997 12:052
52.5262BOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveTue Jan 14 1997 13:026
52.5263DPG-13: Deranged Parent needs Guidance himselfTLE::RALTOLeggo My LegoTue Jan 14 1997 13:069
52.5264CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageTue Jan 14 1997 13:336
52.5265LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againTue Jan 14 1997 13:361
52.5266MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyTue Jan 14 1997 14:474
52.5267POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Jan 14 1997 14:481
52.5268Most definitelyBOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveTue Jan 14 1997 14:524
52.5269CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageTue Jan 14 1997 14:598
52.5270ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Jan 14 1997 15:162
52.5271The other two people in the theater weren't laughing muchTLE::RALTONow featuring Synchro-VoxWed Jan 15 1997 17:0516
52.5272WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Jan 15 1997 17:232
52.5273I do other stupid things of my own, for my kids to rememberTLE::RALTONow featuring Synchro-VoxWed Jan 15 1997 18:3818
52.5274CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayWed Jan 15 1997 18:397
52.5275CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each daySat Jan 18 1997 02:2511
52.5276BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Sat Jan 18 1997 12:093
52.5277CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each daySat Jan 18 1997 12:534
52.5278BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Sat Jan 18 1997 19:181
52.5279TROOA::BUTKOVICHoski wee wee, oski wah wahMon Jan 20 1997 04:3313
52.5280WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 20 1997 10:413
52.5281DragonheartBOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveMon Jan 20 1997 12:216
52.5282GOJIRA::JESSOPMon Jan 20 1997 12:403
52.5283WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 20 1997 13:151
52.5284BUSY::SLABGood Heavens,Commander,what DID you do?Mon Jan 20 1997 14:194
52.5285GOJIRA::JESSOPMon Jan 20 1997 15:073
52.5286BUSY::SLABGrandchildren of the DamnedMon Jan 20 1997 16:055
52.5287BUSY::SLABGrandchildren of the DamnedMon Jan 20 1997 16:0710
52.5288The ghost and the darknessKERNEL::FREKESLike a thief in the nightMon Jan 20 1997 16:094
52.5289BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Jan 20 1997 17:221
52.5290Chris Farley.... the new John CandyBIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Jan 20 1997 19:079
52.5291TROOA::BUTKOVICHoski wee wee, oski wah wahMon Jan 20 1997 19:273
52.5292BUSY::SLABA Momentary Lapse of ReasonMon Jan 20 1997 21:157
52.5293BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Jan 20 1997 22:492
52.5294The Juror: deja vu???USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Mon Jan 20 1997 23:0219
52.5295BUSY::SLABAfterbirth of a NationTue Jan 21 1997 13:485
52.5296BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Jan 21 1997 13:506
52.5297BUSY::SLABAfterbirth of a NationTue Jan 21 1997 14:047
52.5298BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Jan 21 1997 14:3911
52.5299BUSY::SLABAll the leaves are brownTue Jan 21 1997 14:487
52.5300BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Jan 21 1997 15:3216
52.5301BUSY::SLABAn imagine burning in her mind ...Tue Jan 21 1997 16:409
52.5302PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Jan 21 1997 16:458
52.5303BUSY::SLABAn imagine burning in her mind ...Tue Jan 21 1997 16:563
52.5304POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityTue Jan 21 1997 17:003
52.5305BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Jan 21 1997 17:5723
52.5306BUSY::SLABAnd when one of us is gone ...Tue Jan 21 1997 18:1221
52.5307BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Jan 21 1997 19:5829
52.5308GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainWed Jan 22 1997 11:177
52.5309BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Jan 22 1997 12:295
52.5310GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainWed Jan 22 1997 12:3723
52.5311BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Jan 22 1997 13:0027
52.5312GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainWed Jan 22 1997 13:0513
52.5313FutilityPSDV::SURRETTETheCluePhoneIsRinging,AndIt'sForYOU.Wed Jan 22 1997 13:069
52.5314MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyWed Jan 22 1997 13:105
52.5315PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Jan 22 1997 13:138
52.5316GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainWed Jan 22 1997 13:147
52.5317GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainWed Jan 22 1997 13:196
52.5318MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyWed Jan 22 1997 13:2010
52.5319POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityWed Jan 22 1997 13:243
52.5320MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyWed Jan 22 1997 13:261
52.5321POWDML::HANGGELImouth responsibilityWed Jan 22 1997 13:327
52.5322NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jan 22 1997 13:322
52.5323MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyWed Jan 22 1997 13:361
52.5324BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Jan 22 1997 14:1012
52.5325MROA::YANNEKISWed Jan 22 1997 14:5419
52.5326ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownWed Jan 22 1997 15:095
52.5327MROA::YANNEKISWed Jan 22 1997 15:188
52.5328ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownWed Jan 22 1997 15:222
52.5329TROOA::BUTKOVICHtry a little tendernessWed Jan 22 1997 15:241
52.5330FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jan 26 1997 16:538
    

    	"The People vs. Larry Flint"

    	Ok movie...nothing that really stands out, tho'. I actually liked
    Courtney Love as an actress! Scary....

    jim
52.5331TROOA::BUTKOVICHtry a little tendernessMon Jan 27 1997 03:554
    Rented "The Snapper" - excellent!  This is the second story in "The
    Barrytown Trilogy" - the first being "The Committments" and it contains
    many scenes that had me laughing out loud.  The father is played by
    Colm Meaney (sp?) who was terrific.  Most definitely recommended.
52.5332Truth about Cats and DogsUSPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Mon Jan 27 1997 10:2723
    Thanks for the tip.  I wondered about "The Snapper" this weekend.
    
    Best of the Weeked:
    
    The truth about cats and dogs.
    
    Vet hosts radio talk show, falls for caller.  Confusion reins as caller
    gets the idea that vet's girlfriend / neighbor is really the vet.
    
    A pretty good romp.
    
    The rest:
    
    Eraser - pretty much formula Schwarzneger, passable
    
    Mermaids - Quirky story with Winona Ryder coming of age with
               Cher as single mom with own problems.
    
    Sibling Rivalry - Has moments: Housewife with angst, has affair,
                      lover dies "flagrante" on first "date". Certain
                      "complications" evolve.
    
    
52.5333WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Jan 27 1997 10:304
    >Thanks for the tip.  I wondered about "The Snapper" this weekend.
    
     Back when he used to work here, I used to wonder about Snapper often.
    :-)
52.5334WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jan 27 1997 14:385
two reviews:

             Tin Cup - amusing but predictable

             The Net - would not recommend
52.5335SMURF::WALTERSMon Jan 27 1997 14:4412
    .5334
    
    I must confess to really enjoying Tin Cup this weekend.  I know the
    square root of bugger all about golf, which probably helped.
    
    The characters were human and individual and the cast all did a bang-up
    job - particularly his hangers-on at the range.  A bit of a departure
    for Costner.  His stock goes up in my book.
    
    
    
    
52.5336BUSY::SLABAs you wishMon Jan 27 1997 14:485
    
    	If Costner's stock doesn't go up, where would it go?
    
    	I mean, it can't very well go down from where it is.
    
52.5337SMURF::WALTERSMon Jan 27 1997 14:531
    Jackals.  You are never going to forgive him for "Waterworld" are you?
52.5338BUSY::SLABAs you wishMon Jan 27 1997 15:097
    
    	Haven't seen it yet.  Jeanne Tripplehorn is in it, so I will see
    	it eventually.
    
    	But, I think he's an overrated dork ... oops, make that an over-
    	rated actor and an underrated dork.
    
52.5339ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Jan 28 1997 12:273
    
    slabsan, the costner dude is a fine actor. unlike you, he also gets
    the babes.
52.5340BUSY::SLABAs you wishTue Jan 28 1997 15:135
    
    	He had a date with Joan Lunden a few years ago.
    
    	He is a very lucky guy, although he's still a dork.
    
52.5341Vanishing PointBUSY::SLABAs you wishTue Jan 28 1997 19:03178
"Tighten your seat belt. You never had a trip like this before."

-Vanishing Point movie poster 
                                         
                                         
For the most part, there are two kinds of movies. There are movie movies, and
there are movie snob movies. It's the rarest of films that's honestly both.
Vanishing Point (1971) is, I think, one of them. It isn't that everybody likes
it -- people tend to either fall instantly and forever in love with it or think
it's the most stupid ****ing thing they've ever seen. The range of people who
love this movie, though, is amazing. Cult movie geeks, muscle car enthusiasts,
fringe artist-types and blue collar workers all adore it. 
                                         
Like many subjects of fanatical adoration, this movie is almost impossibly
simple -- the plot is so "high concept" it sounds like a joke when you first
hear it. "A guy is driving through the desert, and the cops try to stop him,
and he won't stop, and eventually he has every cop in the world after him." And
that's it. I mean, obviously there's more, but that's basically it.

It was inevitable that somebody was going to remake it. I suppose it was also
somewhat predictable that it would be the Fox television network, Vanishing
Point being a Fox property. Most predictable of all was that the remake would
be a complete joke.

What wasn't inevitable or obvious was that Vanishing Point, that bridge between
eggheads and gearheads, would be turned in on itself and made ugly and
divisive.

The Old School

In the original, a former race-car driver and cop named Kowalski (Barry Newman)
drives into Denver late one night, delivering a car. He gets hold of another
vehicle, a 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T (this is one stud machine, for those of us
on the egghead side of life), scores some speed, and is off immediately,
heading back to the Bay Area. Some cops try to pull him over, he doesn't want
to be pulled over, and a four-state chase ensues. He becomes a media star along
his drug-fueled way, and is aided by an assortment of freaks. Freakiest of all
freaks is Super Soul (Cleavon Little), a blind DJ at station KOW, with whom
Kowalski develops a seemingly supernatural bond. Super Soul becomes Kowalski's
alter ego/guardian angel/greek chorus, helping, praising, and ultimately
suffering along with him when angry citizens rise up and destroy the station.
Eventually, of course, Kowalski can't run anymore, and rather than give up, he
gets up speed and runs the Challenger (it's not really a '70 Challenger used in
the crash, any good movie/car geek can tell you--it's a '69 Camaro) into a
police roadblock and dies.

The remake ran on Fox's "Tuesday Night Movie" on January 7th, and stars Viggo
Mortensen as Kowalski (the only way I can forgive Mortensen for this is by
imagining him going "Vanishing Point? F*** yeah!" before he'd actually seen the
script). If the only thing you liked about the first movie was the car, you'll
love this one -- same car, and it's pretty much the star of the movie. The new
script replaces Super Soul with a populist "shock jock" named "The Voice"
(90210's Jason Priestly). Any wee hopes I had for this thing were killed in the
first minute, when I realized what the setup was going to be.

Vanishing Point is about my favorite 70's antihero movie, and it still stands
as a nearly perfect example of that genre. There is no setup and little
backstory. Kowalski drives into town and drives back out immediately against a
friend's good advice. He doesn't have any particular reason not to pull over
for the cops -- he just doesn't want to. He wants to be left alone -- if what
he's doing is technically illegal, who gives a crap? He's out in the middle of
nowhere, and the only person he's going to potentially hurt driving 100+ mph is
himself. Kowalski is a man who has had much more than enough (that's obvious
from frame one -- the occasional flashes of his past life just confirm what we
already knew) and wants to be left alone, whether or not his cause is just or
sane or even a cause at all.

The New School

The remake turns this Camus-on-crank fable into a combination of The Incredible
Journey with muscle cars instead of cute animals and populist nonsense like
Convoy. Hey, we can all sympathize with this Kowalski--he's got an ailin' wife
and a baby comin' to get home to! (Mrs. Kowalski being another 90210 alumnus.)
And he's not an ex-cop who saw other cops rape runaways, anymore -- he's a
heroic Gulf War veteran who was disciplined for disobeying orders, just for
doing what was right. Added to this is an idiotic and repulsive attempt to tie
into anger over the events at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

This last bit shoots itself in the foot for a couple of reasons. For one thing,
Kowalski's predicament isn't anything like the situations at Ruby Ridge or
Waco. No matter what G. Gordon Liddy would have you believe, in neither of
those cases were people just "trying to live their lives" when the government
suddenly burst in to ruin the party. That government abuses and mismanagement
resulted in unnecessary harm is undeniable in both cases -- but these are both
situations involving groups of people who were not so much interested in
fleeing tyranny (to paraphrase Gore Vidal) as in creating their own, and in
both cases they got tripped up by an enthusiasm for arming themselves for war,
entrenched themselves, and received the consequences of taking on the ZOG or
the Antichrist or whatever.

Blind Color Casting

This revision also fails because the overreaction of law enforcement, surreal
and ominous in the original, is just plain stupid in the remake. In the 1971
version, the cross-country chase snowballs silently and surely. In the remake
we have to see a bunch of expository scenes in which the evil FBI honcho
(here's the film's black lead -- blacks being omnipresent in the upper echelons
of federal law enforcement, after all) explains that they can't have another
Waco, so the wisest thing to do is assume, based on Kowalski's Idaho residence,
that he's a militia member carrying explosives and/or drugs and hunt him
accordingly. And hunt him they do, using car after car, a helicopter, and
eventually NSA satellite tracking equipment.

At least the transformation of the black DJ character into a lily-white one
made some sense as soon as I saw this stuff coming -- "Remember Ruby Ridge"
would have sounded pretty silly coming out of Cleavon Little.

The result of these transparent attempts to turn Kowalski, Mark II into a "man
of the people" and a hero is that he succeeds as neither. The original
Kowalski, who acts for no particularly good reason, has become both over time.
I think I know why that is, and what the makers of the remake got completely
wrong.

Our motivations, as humans, are not as simple as pop psychologists, preachers
and makers of lame TV movies would like them to be. Most of what happens to
most of us, and much of what we do is, if we're honest about it, fairly random.
We are not rewarded for our good deeds, nor are we unduly punished for them,
usually. Most evil, as C.S. Lewis points out in his preface to The Screwtape
Letters, is not thrilling and conspiratorial -- it's banal and nearly
unconscious. Popular notions like conspiracy theories capture imaginations for
the same reason romance novels do -- they provide escape from mundane
existence. Kowalski's story, in the original Vanishing Point, does not provide
release -- for all its fantasy, it's true. You suspect that you'll end up dying
the way Kowalski does, in some fashion -- that one day the choices you've made
will suddenly join circumstances to back you into a corner and you won't get
out. That many of us would like to go out nobly the way he does in the remake
is a given -- but really, how many of us will? And how many of us will just
walk into the wrong convenience store, or drive too fast around the same corner
we always do, or find ourselves in a tub with a razor or looking at a mass in
an X-ray?

In the quest to make Kowalski accessible, the TV movie has been stripped of
every fantastic touch. Gone is the psychic connection between Kowalski and the
DJ -- "The Voice," in this movie, only exists to help turn Kowalski into Randy
Weaver. Gone with the character's blackness is the wonderfully bizarre
placement of a funky-ass spade DJ in an isolated little cowtown. Gone with that
(and because it's not in keeping with the Kowalski-as-white-folk-hero theme) is
the attack on the station by the white residents of the town.

To re-inject the wonder, a pointless "vision quest" and equally pointless
backstory about a trapped mountain lion (guess what -- the lion turns out to be
Kowalski's spirit guide -- yaaaawn) have been added, and in the most bizarre
move in the whole mess, the movie has been turned into a quest for Christian
faith. The setting of the story ("Friday" to "Sunday" in the original) has been
moved to the Passion Week, and a subplot involves Mrs. Kowalski's Catholic
faith and Kowalski's struggle to reconcile himself with her beliefs. When she
dies, Mrs. Kowalski gets to come back as a really annoying 90210 angel.

Revisionist History

Worse than all these horrors, though, is that the ending has been changed.
Kowalski turns out to be D.B. Cooper. Somehow, impossibly, he jumped out of the
car and got away. On a highway. At 185 mph. In front of crowds of cheering
onlookers and waiting cops. This is mentioned only as a possibility by "The
Voice," as no body was ever found, but we see a series of shots that show
Kowalski's best buddy finding his St. Christopher medal a ways off the road,
and a future Kowalski and his little girl hiding out somewhere in purple
mountains' majesty.

What was a really simple, strange, and even subtle (for what is, in essence,
the dumbest car chase movie ever) exploration of the heart of man, of
individuality, and of life in general has been co-opted and twisted into a
stupid, mean and (I would argue) ultimately racist piece of crap that doesn't
even have the attraction of being fun to watch. A universal cry of despair at
how little we take from life and what it exacts in return, that has bound
wildly disparate groups of people for nearly three decades, has been turned
into an altar call, into yet another rant by the "oppressed" whites of America,
into a sermon on the bad government that punishes people for doing what's right
-- in other words, into a tract for the status quo. I've been pissed off by
remakes before, but this one didn't just anger me, it sickened me.

It's still a cool car, though.

Vanishing Point (1971) is available on VHS video tape and on laserdisc from
CBS/FOX, and can be found for rent at most video stores. The remake will
probably be out for rent in a week or so, but who cares?

52.5342CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Jan 28 1997 19:097



 For some reason I thought George Segal played Kowalski..I always confuse
 this move with "Two Lane Blacktop" with James Taylor from about the same
 time..JT driving a nice 55 Chevy.
52.5343LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againTue Jan 28 1997 19:141
    James (Fire and Rain) Taylor made a movie?  idnkt.
52.5344CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Jan 28 1997 19:184


 ayup..late 60's, I believe
52.5345WMOIS::CONNELLBe careful. We have boxes.Tue Jan 28 1997 19:2618
    Thanks for the review, Sean. I'm glad now, that I missed it on Fox. I
    saw this when it originally came out. It was at the old Nashua
    Drive-in. (I miss drive-ins) It was the 1st flick on a double-bill, I
    still can't remember what it was opening for, but I sure remember
    Vanishing Point. I've never seen it on TV and only twice on the big
    screen and it still sticks as one of my all-time favorites.
    
    BTW, I don't remember if the reason I can't remember what the main
    feature was, is because (A) it was that lame, (B) VP was that good in
    my mind, (C) I was just to tired, (D) My date and I were just doing
    what comes naturally to two young'uns in love and at the drive-in by
    that time, or (E) any or all of the above.
    
    Again, thanks for posting that review.
    
    Bright Blessings,
    
    PJ
52.5346POMPY::LESLIEandy@reboot.demon.co.ukWed Jan 29 1997 10:3911
    Thanks for the review, Shawn. I'm a "Vanishing Point" fan, and have
    been ever since I took a girlfriend to see it and ignored her
    throughout the picture, despite the usual teenage reasons for being at
    the cinema.
    
    As to the remake, I knew before I got to the end that Kowalski would
    get away. No-one get's killed in these romaticisied films these days.
    
    The point was that he died, fer gawds sake.
    
    /a
52.5347SALEM::DODALife's a meeting. Get on the agenda!Wed Jan 29 1997 12:127
Vanishing Point has always been one of my favorites. But, I still 
cringe when I see what he did to that poor Challenger. Nice car.

Then again, the end of Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry gets me as well.
A '70 Charger....<sigh>

daryll
52.5348WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed Jan 29 1997 13:516
yeah, but that Charger was beat (as i recall).

wasn't it yellow too?

the Challenger started out a mint too, but was quickly 
beaten as well.
52.5349Someday....SALEM::DODALife's a meeting. Get on the agenda!Wed Jan 29 1997 13:594
At the end the Charger was beat. When they first got it, it was 
mint. It was an R/T as well....

daryll
52.5350just say no to George Lucas...GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaFri Jan 31 1997 15:354
  So they want us to go see Star Wars AGAIN ?

  bb
52.5351CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Jan 31 1997 15:367

 I'll take my youngest son..he never saw it on the big screen.



 Jim
52.5352SMART2::JENNISONGod and sinners, reconciledFri Jan 31 1997 16:095
    
    	I have never seen Star Wars or any others in the trilogy
    	for more than a few scenes.
    
    
52.5353Does AT&T still have the "Death Star" logo?TLE::RALTONow featuring Synchro-VoxFri Jan 31 1997 16:137
    I want to see it again in the theaters, so's I can get all dizzy
    when they dive into that trench on the Death Star, twice.
    
    Either that, or I suppose I can just stand in the middle of my
    cube here and spin 'round and 'round.
    
    Chris
52.53542100 theatersSWAM1::MEUSE_DAFri Jan 31 1997 16:1412
    
    Lines are forming already out here in California for the first 
    showing of Star Wars SE.
    A number of people in the office are going to Manns Chinese Theater
    in Hollywood tonight. Sold out for all shows at a number of
    theaters.
    
    I'm still looking for a theater as big as the one I first saw it at
    in 1977. But you know what they have done to theaters in the last 
    20 years... they all shrunk.
    
    
52.5355ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Jan 31 1997 16:232
    
    when is the new SW movie due out?
52.5356LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 31 1997 16:251
    soon.
52.5357POMPY::LESLIEandy@reboot.demon.co.uk as of Feb 14 1997Fri Jan 31 1997 16:271
    No, that's the *old* SW movies. The new SW movie is 1999.
52.5358ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Jan 31 1997 16:292
    
    why so blasted long? heck, he's had 14 years to finish it.
52.5359SALEM::DODAApparently a true story....Fri Jan 31 1997 16:301
he hasn't started it yet.
52.5360a long time ago,...SWAM1::MEUSE_DAFri Jan 31 1997 16:3915
    
    1977..From Cnn site:
    
    Price of gas was 64 cents.
    Elvis was alive, but died three months later.
    Minimum wage was $2.30
    Average price of a theater ticket was.....$2.25
    AppleII computer was introduced.
    Saturday Night Fever showcased the disco craze.
    Jimmy Carter was president.
    Bill Clinton was 31. 
    "Roots" was a big tv movie hit.
    
    
    
52.5361POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Jan 31 1997 16:431
    I was a really horny teenager.
52.5362LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 31 1997 16:492
    i was working in a bookstore and living
    on the bad side of town.  loved it.
52.5363CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Jan 31 1997 16:569


  we were just about to move to Colorado Springs from the SF Bay Area when
  the movie came out.  Didn't get around to seeing it until we moved..took
  my then 6 year old #1 son.


 Jim
52.5364CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsFri Jan 31 1997 16:593
    Rented Phenomenon the other night.  It was pretty good.  Not a bad
    flick despite the lack of serious violence, nudity or bad language. 
    Ended differently than I expected.  Worth the $1.50.
52.5365LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 31 1997 17:001
    he dies in the end, doesn't he?
52.5366SMART2::JENNISONGod and sinners, reconciledFri Jan 31 1997 17:034
    
    	bon bon !!!
    
    
52.5367LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 31 1997 17:051
    it was just a guess!!
52.5368ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Jan 31 1997 18:112
    
    if the new SW movie is not due out till 1999, why trailers out on TV?
52.5369BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Jan 31 1997 18:141
to build hype?
52.5370LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 31 1997 18:261
    i think i'll rent 'annie hall' this weekend.
52.5371PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Jan 31 1997 18:284
  .5370  depending on the size of your party, the VFW might
	 be cheaper.

52.5372LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 31 1997 18:291
    lobster is on the menu.
52.5373BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Jan 31 1997 18:301
rock lobster?
52.5374ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Jan 31 1997 18:322
    
    Polly doesn't eat lobster, other choices?
52.5375CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Jan 31 1997 18:374


 I bought a copy of "Hannah and Her Sisters" last night for $9.99
52.5376LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 31 1997 18:391
    yowsa.  good price.  may i inquire where?
52.5377CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Jan 31 1997 18:453

 Sure..go right ahead!
52.5378SMART2::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveFri Jan 31 1997 18:453
    	That Jimbo.  Such a card.
    
    
52.5379CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Jan 31 1997 18:467

 ;-)


 I got it at Sam Goodie's in the Mall at Rockingham Park in Salem NH.  You
 might also be able to find it at Suncoast Video.
52.5380LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 31 1997 18:471
    and i was so polite and everything. {sigh}
52.5381BUSY::SLABAs you wishFri Jan 31 1997 18:495
    
    	RE: .5378
    
    	And we can all guess which card, arguably.  8^)
    
52.5382no respectSWAM1::MEUSE_DAFri Jan 31 1997 18:536
    
    Rodney Dangerfield spent 4 years writing the script for his new
    movie "Meet Wally Sparks". The guy is 75 years old, and still 
    going at it, or after it. He always get a laugh from me.
    
    
52.5383ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Jan 31 1997 18:544
    
    fear not oph, jimbob was just trying to be funny. he doesn't rank up
    there with slabbo, or colin, but he does try.  jimbob, get on your
    knees and beg oph's forgiveness.
52.5384CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Jan 31 1997 18:553

 Is he really 75 years old?  eesh..
52.5385LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 31 1997 18:551
    mr batti's, are you finished scribbling?
52.5386ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Jan 31 1997 19:083
    
    yes'm oph, i was busy taking notes. when di throws out her pearls
    of wisdom, i've got to be there to take the advice.
52.5387SALEM::DODAApparently a true story....Fri Jan 31 1997 19:141
I don't think you'll look as good in pearls Mark.
52.5388LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againFri Jan 31 1997 19:151
    i see.  carry on.
52.5389SMURF::WALTERSI don't have an ilklingFri Jan 31 1997 19:161
    If I know Di, 's wine before pearls.
52.5390SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Fri Jan 31 1997 19:181
    Ain't no souse 'ere.
52.5391POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Jan 31 1997 19:191
    Somebody is giving Batti's pearl necklaces?
52.5392POWDML::HANGGELILet's Play ChocolateFri Jan 31 1997 19:213
    
    8^o
    
52.5393ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Jan 31 1997 19:212
    
    where did i pick up this apostrophe? frankly, it troubles me.
52.5394POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Jan 31 1997 19:221
    I don't know, but you better dump him if that's what he's doing to you.
52.5395POWDML::HANGGELILet's Play ChocolateFri Jan 31 1997 19:233
    
    Filthaaa!
    
52.5396ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Jan 31 1997 19:252
    
    deb looks good in pearls. um, i mean i bet she would.
52.5397BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Jan 31 1997 20:134

	Battis.... make her a pearl necklace! Use real expensive pearls,
though. Deb only deserves the very best!
52.5398POWDML::HANGGELILet's Play ChocolateFri Jan 31 1997 20:133
    
    <covers eyes>
    
52.5399SCASS1::BARBER_AA.D.I.D.A.S.Fri Jan 31 1997 20:214
    Everyone go see Shadow Conspiracy this weekend!
    
    It's got Charlie Sheen, Linda Hamilton, and Ugly Mus-tard on the
    soundtrack.
52.5400BUSY::SLABAs you wishFri Jan 31 1997 20:313
    
    	Which song does Linda Hamilton sing?
    
52.5401SCASS1::BARBER_AA.D.I.D.A.S.Fri Jan 31 1997 20:333
    8PpPpP  You knew what I meant.
    
    I saw a preview for it last night, it looks very action-packed.
52.5402POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Jan 31 1997 20:351
    I didn't know what you meant. What did you mean?
52.5403SCASS1::BARBER_AA.D.I.D.A.S.Fri Jan 31 1997 20:421
    {sigh}
52.5404POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Jan 31 1997 20:511
    So, Linda doesn't sing?
52.5405BUSY::SLABAs you wishFri Jan 31 1997 20:513
    
    	Not well, I'd guess.
    
52.5406SCASS1::BARBER_AA.D.I.D.A.S.Fri Jan 31 1997 21:473
    No, Linda co-stars.
    
    8P
52.5407POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorFri Jan 31 1997 23:451
    So how long has she been with Ugly Mus-tard?
52.5408SCASS1::BARBER_AA.D.I.D.A.S.Sat Feb 01 1997 01:031
    You mean, as a whole?
52.5409POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorSat Feb 01 1997 01:481
    No, just partially.
52.5410MKOTS3::JMARTINEbonics Is Not ApplyMon Feb 03 1997 12:151
    Anybody see Star Wars this weekend???  Waste of money???
52.5411SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Feb 03 1997 12:191
    No, and probably not, in that order.
52.5412CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Feb 03 1997 12:315
>    Anybody see Star Wars this weekend???  Waste of money???


  According to news reports, many did.
52.5413POMPY::LESLIEandy@reboot.demon.co.uk as of Feb 14Mon Feb 03 1997 12:321
    ...and many did not.
52.5414like coining moneyGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaMon Feb 03 1997 12:354
  Highest gross for the weekend, many times that of #2 McGuire.

  bb
52.5415BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Mon Feb 03 1997 12:485
Ran into an old friend in the Pheasant Lane Mall this weekend. She had just
taken her son to ses Star Wars and said it was a zoo in the theater.

She also qualified the movie as a waste of money.
52.5416BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Feb 03 1997 13:043

	Did they have any giraffes?
52.5417CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsMon Feb 03 1997 13:195
    Rented A Time to Kill last night.  Pretty well done IMO.  I enjoyed the
    book the most of all of Grisham's works and found the film to be pretty
    true to the story.  Decent cast as well.  It was worth the rental.
    
    Brian
52.5418POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 03 1997 13:287
    I watch Mighty Aphrodite last night and busted a gut. Classic Woody
    Allen.

    Also saw The Nutty Professor on Saturday night. Several very funny
    scenes. Eddie Murphy loves using the word "ass" more than anybody. The
    make-up was incredible and Eddie is a genius when it comes to
    impressions.
52.5419Ditto: 52.5417WMOIS::WEIERKeep those wings spinning!Mon Feb 03 1997 14:051
    
52.5420Star WarsSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Feb 03 1997 15:1611
    
    Saw Star Wars yesterday at Manns Chinese Theater in Hollywood.
    What a theater! Seats 1500 and has all the state of the art cinema
    stuff. Huge screen that is set was back from the first few rows.
    
    The movie was great of course, but the audience made it more fun
    with lots of clapping and cheering at the right moments. Big
    diffence seeing it on the theater screen again. 
    
    Caught the Sunday matinee, so it was only $5.00.
    
52.5421TROOA::BUTKOVICHlet's work the problem, peopleMon Feb 03 1997 15:2436
    Finished reading "The English Patient" and then saw the movie on
    Sunday.  Both the movie and book were excellent.  Some minor and a
    couple of major changes in the movie, but on the whole, I would say
    they compliment each other very well.  A couple of parts of the book
    that I thought were confusing were cleared up by watching the movie and
    the movie left out some of the details (of course) that were included
    in the book and I was glad that I read it first.
    
    I would love to talk to the scriptwriter and find out why certain
    changes were made.  There didn't seem to be any reason for them.  For
    instance:  (spoilers ahead)
    
    
    
    In the book, Hana and Carravagio knew each other back in Toronto.  In
    the movie, they lived near each other in Montreal, but had no prior
    acquaintance.  The only reason I could think of for the change of city
    was to help explain Juliet Binoche's accent a bit better.  However, she
    should have either spoken with a much heavier French accent or they
    could have left the city as Toronto.
    
    Major spoiler:
    
    
    
    I have to go back to the book and check this one... and if I missed it,
    boy, I must have skipped a few pages.  In the movie, the Count goes
    back to the cave where he left Katherine and retrieves her body.  I'm
    pretty sure that he didn't do that in the book.  The movie starts with
    a plane that obviously has a woman in front and a man in back that
    crashes and then the next scene is the burnt body of the man being
    taken care of by the tribe.  That confused me because I didn't remember
    her being with him.
    
    
    All in all... both are well worth the time/cost.
52.5422ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Feb 03 1997 18:576
    
    watched "For a Few Dollars More" on saturday. I love the line near the
    end of the movie. "17, 22, (turns and blows last bad dude away) 27"
    
    "Problems, youngster?"
    "Nah, old man, thought my addition was wrong, it's all right now"
52.5423SMART2::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveMon Feb 03 1997 19:308
    
    	We rented and watched "The Substitute" this weekend.
    
    	Entertaining "mercenary goes undercover to stop a 
    	drug gang" movie, where the mercenary checks his super-powers
    	at the door (unlike Segal, etc.).
    
    
52.5424LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 03 1997 19:352
    i'm retro lately.  i bought "cinema paradiso".
    i never buy videos.  what's happening?
52.5425PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 03 1997 19:385
  .5424  cinema paradiso.  oh, that's a good one, Ophie.
	 you do have good taste, i must say.


52.5426BUSY::SLABBeware of geeks baring griftsMon Feb 03 1997 19:405
    
    	I just bought "Tango & Cash" a few weeks ago.
    
    	How's my taste in movies?
    
52.5427LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 03 1997 19:502
    tango and cash?  the two don't seem to go
    together, for some reason.
52.5428LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 03 1997 19:513
    .5425
    
    tanks.
52.5429SCASS1::BARBER_AA.D.I.D.A.SMon Feb 03 1997 19:581
    Did anyone catch Shadow Conspiracy?  I didn't, and I'm dying to see it.
52.5430POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 03 1997 20:061
    I'm sure Jim will say someone did.
52.5431POWDML::HANGGELILet's Play ChocolateMon Feb 03 1997 20:073
    
    Why don't you say it?
    
52.5432POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 03 1997 20:081
    It's not my job.
52.5433RE: DebBUSY::SLABBeware of geeks baring griftsMon Feb 03 1997 20:094
    
    	Glenn has enough of his own tired jokes to worry about without
    	having to borrow from others.
    
52.5434POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 03 1997 20:101
    Was that some sort of insult there?
52.5435TROOA::BUTKOVICHlet's work the problem, peopleMon Feb 03 1997 21:341
    <---- this troubles me!
52.5436CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Feb 04 1997 01:566
>    Did anyone catch Shadow Conspiracy?  I didn't, and I'm dying to see it.



 Catch it?  I didn't know anybody *threw* it!
52.5438BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Feb 04 1997 12:056
| <<< Note 52.5437 by PERFOM::LICEA_KANE "when it's comin' from the left" >>>


| In the "give me a break" category, 

	Nell Carter was in Star Wars????
52.5439CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Feb 04 1997 12:181
    Um, thanks for the spoiler warning.....
52.5437Daming myself with faint praise, I've got more of a life than....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Feb 04 1997 12:2425
|   Big diffence seeing it on the theater screen again.
    
    <spoiler warning?>

        
    I'll say.  On the small screen, what little "acting" Hamill and Fisher
    attempt doesn't get in the way.  On the big screen....  Well, the best
    laugh line in the movie was Hamill's first attempt at a whine.  (Oh,
    Uncle Owen, do I have tooooooooooo.....)
    
    Some of the "new" special effects get in the way.  And Hans Solo's run
    in with Jaba repeats word for word some of the dialogue Hans had with
    the bounty hunter.  (The bounty hunter now shoots first, but can't hit
    Hans from a meter away.  Those bad guys never could hit an important
    good guy, rule number one in all spaghetti westerns.)
    
    While much is made of what's been added, little talk about what's been
    cut.  Most missing was the bucket of bolts Millenium Falcon not jumping
    to light speed in the escape from Mos Eisley.
    
    In the "give me a break" category, seems young Luke and Biggs had
    spent time together womping womp rats back on the farm.  Amazing the
    folks you can run into half a galaxy from home.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5440POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Feb 04 1997 13:152
    It struck me last night that Julia Louis Dreyfus would make an
    excellent Princess Leia.
52.5441BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Feb 04 1997 13:421
hope it didn't hurt...
52.5442ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Feb 04 1997 14:063
    
    glenn, were you watching Seinfeld last night? It showed, um, quite
    a bit of Elaine, as it were.
52.5443BUSY::SLABBlack No. 1Tue Feb 04 1997 14:073
    
    	Darn!!  I would have liked to see that.
    
52.5444BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Feb 04 1997 14:206
| <<< Note 52.5443 by BUSY::SLAB "Black No. 1" >>>


| Darn!!  I would have liked to see that.

	Where are you April???
52.5445To Wong Foo...USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Thu Feb 06 1997 02:1810
    To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar
    
    An authentic American response to La Cage aux Folles, much better than
    The Bird Cage.
    
    Here is a film to seduce you into thinking that gender is a state of
    mind.
    
    FJP
    
52.5446CHEFS::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitThu Feb 06 1997 10:409
    I see "Quadrophenia" has been re-released in British cinemas. Reviews
    I`ve read have slagged it off,saying it`s got some sort of gay
    undertone and the music is rubbish.
    
    What?!! It`s a fantastic film,probably the best rock n`roll film ever.
    The music is great. It has an excellent performance by Phil Daniels as the
    rebellious pill popping,scooter riding teenager. I can`t see what`s so
    gay about it either.
      
52.5447POMPY::LESLIEAndy, DEC man walking...Thu Feb 06 1997 10:411
    You're reading the wrong reviews, son. 
52.5448Wong Foo = PriscillaTUXEDO::NICOLAZZOA shocking lack of Gov. regulationThu Feb 06 1997 10:528
    re: .5445
    
    >An authentic American response to La Cage aux Folles, much better than
    >The Bird Cage.
    
    	More like a response to "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert".
    
    				Robert.
52.5449USPS::FPRUSSFrank Pruss, 202-232-7347Thu Feb 06 1997 11:141
    Never heard of "Priscilla..." is it a movie?  On video?
52.5450POMPY::LESLIEAndy, DEC man walking...Thu Feb 06 1997 12:021
    It's a movie. Out on vid here at least...
52.5451WowPERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftFri Feb 07 1997 12:4010
    
    Star Wars, A New Hope
    
    I made a grave error.  The Millenium Falcon fails to jump to light
    speed in "Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back."  I am most sorriest.
    
    THX 1138 was on Bravo! last night, letterbox format.  What a movie.
    So was Lucas' student film.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5452POWDML::HANGGELILet's Play ChocolateFri Feb 07 1997 12:413
    
    THX 1138 was a good book.  Never saw the movie.  Is it as good?
    
52.5453ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownFri Feb 07 1997 13:252
    
    bill, I thought he made THX 1138 while he was a student at USC?
52.5454WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjFri Feb 07 1997 13:574
    >I made a grave error.  The Millenium Falcon fails to jump to light
    >speed in "Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back."  I am most sorriest.
    
     Thank you. I was way confused.
52.5455Excellent movie. (Good student short)PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftFri Feb 07 1997 14:0417
    There is a movie short "Electronic Labyrinth - THX 1138" which Lucas made
    at USC.
    
    He turned that into a feature film, called "THX 1138."
    
    
    Few movies have captured oppressive sameness as much as "THX 1138."
    The visual impact of what is *missing* from the film would be tough
    to capture in words.  (A couple of great novels have succeded, but
    unless THX 1138 is a *great* book, I suspect the movie is better.)
    
  
    I'm surprised that the anti-PC crowd here doesn't condemn it as
    little more than "valuing diversity" propaganda.
    
    								-mr. bill
    
52.5456ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Feb 10 1997 11:274
    
    saw "The Shadow" last night. Pretty good, Alec Baldwin played Lamont
    Cranston, aka "The Shadow". Similar to the old comic book character.
    good escapist affair.
52.5457POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 10 1997 14:091
    escapist affair. Holy cow! I've got to remember to try that.
52.5459APACHE::KEITHDr. DeuceMon Feb 10 1997 15:025
    Glen:
    
    Can you check that URL? It doesn't work
    
    Steve
52.5460Run, run, run, run, run...TLE::RALTONow featuring Synchro-VoxMon Feb 10 1997 15:0914
    Saw "Chain Reaction" yesterday on PPV (at the kids' request).
    
    Okay, but not great.  Lots of holes, scientific and otherwise,
    big enough to drive a cyclotron through.  Not that you'd want to
    drive a cyclotron anywhere, even if you could.
    
    This was the first time I saw Keanu Reeves.  Not impressed.  :-)
    Morgan Freeman, on the other hand, was impressive.  The ambiguity
    of his character was nicely done.
    
    If seeing it would be a freebie for you, go for it, but I wouldn't
    go too far out of my way.
    
    Chris
52.5458BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Feb 10 1997 16:2916

ever wonder about a movie and where/when it is playing? If you're online you
can check out this page for the Sony family of theaters:


http://www.spe.sony.com/Pictures/sonytheatres/locations/ms/index.html



	It's for the Massachusetts area.... but if you back up to just
locations you can get it for other states as well.



Glen
52.5461BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Feb 10 1997 16:305
| <<< Note 52.5459 by APACHE::KEITH "Dr. Deuce" >>>

| Can you check that URL? It doesn't work

	It's fixed, Steve
52.5462CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Feb 10 1997 16:338


 Weekend fare at the henderson abode this weekend:

 Hannah and Her Sisters

 Purple Rose of Cairo (was on Bravo channel)
52.5463old movie beats new movieSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Feb 10 1997 16:358
    
    Star Wars was the #1 movie for the weekend, new release Dantes
    Peak was second:
    
    1.Star Wars $22.7 million
    2. Dante's Peak $18.6
    
    
52.5464ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Feb 10 1997 16:555
    
    i just can't fathom people flocking to see "Star Wars" twenty
    years later. I mean the Empire loses, same result as in 1977. I
    love the trilogy, but not enough to them on the big screen again.
    I'll wait for the new oneto come 
52.5465GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainMon Feb 10 1997 16:575
    oh, i dunno, mark.  i think if you saw it as a kid, teen, and have
    kids of your own now, it may be kind of cool.  kind of like the
    reruns of disney movies, assuming they still do that.  ok, so i 
    don't get out much :-)
    
52.5466ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Feb 10 1997 17:014
    
    um, well. i was 18 when it first came out. Return of the Jedi in 1983
    was one of the last movies i saw in a theatre, until a year or two ago
    when I saw "Assasins"
52.5467GMASEC::KELLYIt's Deja-Vu, All Over AgainMon Feb 10 1997 17:033
    ah, well, then.  that explains it :-)  i was 14 when i first saw
    starwars, never saw the other movies on the big screen, tho.  must
    confess to wanting to purchase the trilogy, however.
52.5468ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Feb 10 1997 17:242
    
    <--- well worth it. i bought it for my nephew.
52.5469TROOA::BUTKOVICHlet's work the problem, peopleMon Feb 10 1997 21:367
    My brother went to Star Wars on Saturday and he said it was really
    funny when Luke kisses Leia because he heard a number of people in the
    audience.... (behind a form feed in case there could possibly be one
    person who hasn't seen all 3 movies...)
    
    
    " ewwwwww..... she's your sister!! "
52.5470POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Feb 11 1997 01:351
    Barnyard animals!
52.5471COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Feb 11 1997 02:474
>    Barnyard animals!

Yeah.  They don't care if they're brother and sister.  Don't care at all.

52.5472WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Feb 11 1997 09:251
were tongues involved?
52.5473COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Feb 11 1997 10:571
Just one, probably, if I remember that somewhat forced attention.
52.5474Now... kiss you will. Later, heh. Heh-heh.TLE::RALTONow featuring Synchro-VoxTue Feb 11 1997 12:349
    Hmmm, I thought that he always kissed her on the cheek (and/or
    vice versa, e.g., "for luck").  I think Lucas had all the family
    ties worked out before he shot a frame of film.
    
    BTW, if they do anything at all to "The Empire Strikes Back",
    please, PLEASE, do something electronic with Yoda's voice
    so that he doesn't sound like Grover.
    
    Chris
52.5475ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQTue Feb 11 1997 12:401
I may be wrong, but doesn't Leia kiss Luke?
52.5476POMPY::LESLIEAndy Leslie, DEC man walking...Tue Feb 11 1997 12:411
    "For luck!".
52.5477SSDEVO::RALSTONT minus 3 days and countingTue Feb 11 1997 13:5276
    English Patient' Heads Oscars
    
    By LYNN ELBER
    The Associated Press
    
        BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. (Feb. 11) - The romantic epic ''The English
    Patient'' received a leading 12 nominations today, including best
    picture, for the Academy Awards. Madonna's effort in ''Evita'' was
    passed over.
    
        Other best picture contenders were ''Fargo,'' ''Secrets & Lies,''
    ''Shine,'' and the only big-studio product among the five, ''Jerry
    Maguire.''
    
        ''Fargo'' and ''Shine'' had seven nominations apiece, while ''Jerry
    Maguire'' and ''Secrets & Lies'' each got five.
    
        Best actor nominees included Ralph Fiennes for ''The English
    Patient,'' Tom Cruise for ''Jerry Maguire,'' Woody Harrelson for ''The
    People vs. Larry Flynt,'' Geoffrey Rush for ''Shine'' and Billy Bob
    Thornton for ''Sling Blade.''
    
        Top actress contenders were Kristin Scott Thomas for ''The English
    Patient,'' Brenda Blethyn for ''Secrets & Lies,'' Diane Keaton for
    ''Marvin's Room,'' Frances McDormand for ''Fargo'' and Emily Watson for
    ''Breaking the Waves.''
    
        Conspicuously absent from the actress nominations was Madonna for
    her performance in ''Evita.'' Debbie Reynolds was also forgotten by the
    academy for her role in ''Mother.''
    
        The controversial film ''The People vs. Larry Flynt,'' about the
    life of the Hustler sex magazine publisher, didn't receive a best
    picture nod, but saw its director Milos Forman nominated as well as its
    star.
    
        Forman, a two-time winner, competes for the best director Oscar
    with Anthony Minghella for ''The English Patient,'' Joel Coen for
    ''Fargo,'' Mike Leigh for ''Secrets & Lies'' and Scott Hicks for
    ''Shine.''
    
        Support actor contenders were Cuba Gooding Jr. for ''Jerry
    Maguire,'' William H. Macy for ''Fargo,'' Armin Mueller-Stahl for
    ''Shine,'' Edward Norton for ''Primal Fear'' and James Woods for
    ''Ghosts of Mississippi.''
    
        In the supporting actress category were Lauren Bacall for ''The
    Mirror Has Two Faces,'' Juliette Binoche for ''The English Patient,''
    Barbara Hershey for ''The Portrait of a Lady,'' Joan Allen for ''The
    Crucible'' and Marianne Jean-Baptiste for ''Secrets & Lies.''
    
        Foreign language film nominees were ''A Chef in Love,'' the former
    Soviet Union republic of Georgia; ''Kolya,'' the Czech Republic; ''The
    Other Side of Sunday,'' Norway; ''Prisoner of the Mountains,'' Russia;
    and ''Ridicule,'' France.
    
        The nominations were announced during a pre-dawn ceremony at the
    Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences headquarters in Beverly
    Hills. Awards will be given out March 24 during an ABC-TV broadcast at
    the Los Angeles Shrine Auditorium. Billy Crystal will be host.
    
        In addition to best picture, director and three acting nominations,
    ''The English Patient'' also got nominations for adapted screenplay,
    original dramatic score, cinematography, art direction, costume design,
    film editing and sound.
    
        Original screenplay nominations went to Ethan Coen and Joel Coen
    for ''Fargo,'' Cameron Crowe for ''Jerry Maguire,'' John Sayles for
    ''Lone Star,'' Mike Leigh for ''Secrets & Lies'' and Jan Sardi and
    Scott Hicks for ''Shine.''
    
        Adapted screenplay nominations, for scripts based on other
    material, went to Arthur Miller for ''The Crucible,'' Anthony Minghella
    for ''The English Patient,'' Kenneth Branagh for ''Hamlet,'' Thornton
    for ''Sling Blade'' and John Hodge for ''Trainspotting.''
    
52.5478SUMMARYSSDEVO::RALSTONT minus 3 days and countingTue Feb 11 1997 13:55105
    List of nominations for the Academy Awards:
    
        1. BEST PICTURE: ''The English Patient,'' ''Fargo,'' ''Jerry
    Maguire,'' ''Secrets & Lies,'' ''Shine.''
    
        2. ACTOR: Tom Cruise, ''Jerry Maguire''; Ralph Fiennes, ''The
    English Patient''; Woody Harrelson, ''The People vs. Larry Flynt'';
    Geoffrey Rush, ''Shine''; Billy Bob Thornton, ''Sling Blade.''
    
        3. ACTRESS: Brenda Blethyn, ''Secrets & Lies''; Diane Keaton,
    ''Marvin's Room''; Frances McDormand, ''Fargo''; Kristin Scott Thomas,
    ''The English Patient''; Emily Watson, ''Breaking the Waves.''
    
        4. SUPPORTING ACTOR: Cuba Gooding Jr., ''Jerry Maguire''; William
    H. Macy, ''Fargo''; Armin Mueller-Stahl, ''Shine''; Edward Norton,
    ''Primal Fear''; James Woods, ''Ghosts of Mississippi.''
    
        5. SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Joan Allen, ''The Crucible''; Lauren Bacall,
    ''The Mirror Has Two Faces''; Juliette Binoche, ''The English
    Patient''; Barbara Hershey, ''The Portrait of a Lady''; Marianne
    Jean-Baptiste, ''Secrets & Lies.''
    
        6. DIRECTOR: Anthony Minghella, ''The English Patient''; Joel Coen,
    ''Fargo''; Milos Forman, ''The People vs. Larry Flynt''; Mike Leigh,
    ''Secrets & Lies''; Scott Hicks, ''Shine.''
    
        7. FOREIGN FILM: ''A Chef in Love,'' Georgia; ''Kolya,'' Czech
    Republic; ''The Other Side of Sunday,'' Norway; ''Prisoner of the
    Mountains,'' Russia; ''Ridicule,'' France.
    
        8. SCREENPLAY (written directly for the screen): Ethan Coen & Joel
    Coen, ''Fargo''; Cameron Crowe, ''Jerry Maguire''; John Sayles, ''Lone
    Star''; Mike Leigh, ''Secrets & Lies''; Jan Sardi and Scott Hicks,
    ''Shine.''
    
        9. SCREENPLAY (based on material previously produced or published):
    Arthur Miller, ''The Crucible''; Anthony Minghella, ''The English
    Patient''; Kenneth Branagh, ''Hamlet''; Billy Bob Thornton, ''Sling
    Blade''; John Hodge, ''Trainspotting.''
    
        10. ART DIRECTION: ''The Birdcage,'' ''The English Patient,''
    ''Evita,'' ''Hamlet,'' ''William Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet.''
    
        11. CINEMATOGRAPHY: ''The English Patient,'' ''Evita,'' ''Fargo,''
    ''Fly Away Home,'' ''Michael Collins.''
    
        12. SOUND: ''The English Patient,'' ''Evita,'' ''Independence
    Day,'' ''The Rock,'' ''Twister.''
    
        13. SOUND EFFECTS EDITING: ''Daylight,'' ''Eraser,'' ''The Ghost
    and the Darkness.''
    
        14. ORIGINAL MUSICAL OR COMEDY SCORE: ''Emma,'' Rachel Portman;
    ''The First Wives Club,'' Marc Shaiman; ''The Hunchback of Notre
    Dame,'' Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz; ''James and the Giant
    Peach,'' Randy Newman; ''The Preacher's Wife,'' Hans Zimmer.
    
        15. ORIGINAL DRAMATIC SCORE: ''The English Patient,'' Gabriel
    Yared; ''Hamlet,'' Patrick Doyle; ''Michael Collins,'' Elliot
    Goldenthal; ''Shine,'' David Hirschfelder; ''Sleepers,'' John Williams.
    
        16. ORIGINAL SONG: ''Because You Loved Me'' from ''Up Close and
    Personal,'' Diane Warren; ''For the First Time'' from ''One Fine Day,''
    James Newton Howard, Jud J. Friedman and Allan Dennis Rich; ''I Finally
    Found Someone'' from ''The Mirror Has Two Faces,'' Barbra Streisand,
    Marvin Hamlisch, Bryan Adams and Robert ''Mutt'' Lange; ''That Thing
    You Do!'' from ''That Thing You Do!,'' Adam Schlesinger; ''You Must
    Love Me'' from ''Evita,'' Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice.
    
        17. COSTUME: ''Angels and Insects,'' ''Emma,'' ''The English
    Patient,'' ''Hamlet,'' ''The Portrait of a Lady.''
    
        18. DOCUMENTARY FEATURE: ''The Line King: The Al Hirschfeld
    Story,'' ''Mandela,'' ''Suzanne Farrell: Elusive Muse,'' ''Tell The
    Truth and Run: George Seldes and the American Press,'' ''When We Were
    Kings.''
    
        19. DOCUMENTARY (short subject): ''Breathing Lessons: The Life and
    Work of Mark O'Brien,'' ''Cosmic Voyage,'' ''An Essay on Matisse,''
    ''Special Effects,'' ''The Wild Bunch: An Album in Montage.''
    
        20. FILM EDITING: ''The English Patient,'' ''Evita,'' ''Fargo,''
    ''Jerry Maguire,'' ''Shine.''
    
        21. MAKEUP: ''Ghosts of Mississippi,'' ''The Nutty Professor,''
    ''Star Trek: First Contact.''
    
        22. ANIMATED SHORT FILMS: ''Canhead,'' ''La Salla,'' ''Quest,''
    ''Wat's Pig.''
    
        23. LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM: ''De Tripas, Corazon,'' ''Dear Diary,''
    ''Ernst & Lyset,'' ''Esposados,'' ''Wordless.''
    
        24. VISUAL EFFECTS: ''Dragonheart,'' ''Independence Day,''
    ''Twister.''
    
        Oscar winners previously announced this year:
    
        SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNICAL OSCAR: Imax Corp. for its large-format
    movies.
    
        HONORARY AWARD: Choreographer Michael Kidd.
    
        IRVING G. THALBERG MEMORIAL AWARD: Producer Saul Zaentz.
    
52.5479from left fieldGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaThu Feb 13 1997 18:506
  So is the Academy on drugs ?  Who ever heard of most of these movies ?

  Jerry McGuire, sure.  But what is this, a new artsy-oscar phase ?

  bb
52.5480LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againThu Feb 13 1997 18:563
    heard of 'em all, except 'Secrets and Lies'.
    'Jerry McGuire' is the only "big" hollywood
    movie among the group.  
52.5481BULEAN::BANKSOrthogonality is your friendThu Feb 13 1997 18:577
    Fargo roolz.
    
    Gotta love them Cohen brothers.  (Well, I gotta, 'cause no one else
    does.)
    
    Also gotta love Bill Forsyth, before he went Hollywood, but that's just
    ancient history.
52.5482SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Thu Feb 13 1997 18:596
    This bunch of picks is ample demonstration, and a welcome one at that,
    that money can't buy little gold statuettes.  Artsy??  The whole point
    of the Oscars is to acklnwledge the BEST, not the deepest pockets.  It
    is very refreshing to see that the drivel and dreck churned out by the 
    blood-and-action studios is receiving the cold shoulder it's so richly
    earned.
52.5483SALEM::DODASomeday, someway....Thu Feb 13 1997 18:599
      <<< Note 52.5481 by BULEAN::BANKS "Orthogonality is your friend" >>>
  
    
   > Gotta love them Cohen brothers.  (Well, I gotta, 'cause no one else
   > does.)
    
    Blood Simple is one of my all-time favorites.

    daryll
52.5484LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againThu Feb 13 1997 18:593
    Coen.  I do, so you're not alone.
    
    Frances McDormand for Best Actress!!
52.5485BULEAN::BANKSOrthogonality is your friendThu Feb 13 1997 19:003
    Frances McDormand
    
    a-woooohga!
52.5486SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoThu Feb 13 1997 19:1623
    - 1. BEST PICTURE: ''The English Patient,'' ''Fargo,'' ''Jerry
    -    Maguire,'' ''Secrets & Lies,'' ''Shine.''
    
    I saw of three of the five nominated, but all in the small art-film
    theatres- fortunately there are five such places with a total of nine
    screens convenient to me, and I only go looking for movies about once a
    month, so I can usually find something interesting to watch.  I found
    Secrets and Lies very depressing; The English Patient was wonderful;
    I didn't see Jerry McGuire or Fargo...and Shine ... Shine rang very
    true to life for me- the terrible damage that can be done by a
    domineering parent, the ruined potential, the reclamation... the actor
    who portrayed the pianist was phenomenal.  That one is based on a true
    story and the man is enjoying renewed popularity in concert halls, due
    in no small part to the movie.
    
    So you haven't heard of these, browk?  Do you ever go looking for
    non-mainstream fare?
    
    If you get a chance to see "The Big Night" or "Surviving Picasso" they
    were also quite good.
    
    DougO
    
52.5487PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Feb 13 1997 19:494
   .5483  yah.  Blood Simple and Miller's Crossing.  love 'em
	  both.

52.5488Raising Arizona - 'nother gud'unTROOA::BUTKOVICHspace for rentThu Feb 13 1997 20:0656
    The IMDb has filmographies for Joel Coen in the following categories:
         Writer Director Miscellaneous crew Actor 
    
    
    
    Writer filmography
    
    
      1.Big Lebowski, The (1997) 
      2.Fargo (1996) (GGN) 
      3.Hudsucker Proxy, The (1994) 
      4.Barton Fink (1991) 
      5.Miller's Crossing (1990) 
    
    
      6.Raising Arizona (1987) 
      7.Crimewave (1985/I) 
         ... aka Broken Hearts and Noses (1985)
         ... aka XYZ Murders, The (1985) 
      8.Blood Simple (1984) 
    
    
    
    
    
    Director filmography
    
    
      1.Big Lebowski, The (1997) 
      2.Fargo (1996) (GGN) 
      3.Hudsucker Proxy, The (1994) 
      4.Barton Fink (1991) 
      5.Miller's Crossing (1990) 
    
    
      6.Raising Arizona (1987) 
      7.Blood Simple (1984) 
    
    
    
    
    
    Miscellaneous crew filmography
    
    
      1.Evil Dead, The (1982) (assistant film editor) 
      2.Fear No Evil (1981) (assistant editor) 
    
    
    
    
    
    Actor filmography
    
    
      1.Spies Like Us (1985) .... Drive-In Security
52.5489TROOA::BUTKOVICHspace for rentFri Feb 14 1997 03:473
    While watching ER tonight, I was reminded of one of my favourite movies
    of last year - TRAINSPOTTING - I'm kind of amazed that it didn't get a
    few more nominations.  Ewen McGregor is great.
52.5490FABSIX::M_CADIEUXKADOUFri Feb 14 1997 04:282
    
      I just saw that the other day, great flick.
52.5491these didn't play much near meGAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaFri Feb 14 1997 12:1020
  DougO - these days, almost all my flick-watching is by rental.  It isn't
 convenient to go to the theaters except on special occasions, and they
 are overwhelmingly populated by teenagers who come to see horror flicks,
 a genre that does not interest me.  Several of the nominations never
 played in any cinema convenient to me, anyways.  I do sometimes rent
 obscure movies, but of course by video I see last year's stuff.

  Dick's analysis is correct - these nominations are a deliberate slap
 at Hollywood by the Academy.  How else could they be interpreted ?  But
 then, I doubt Hollywood cares.  It's all bottom line with them, and
 many of them now view the Oscars as irrelevent.  Lucas, who got basically
 no recognition back in the seventies, expressed his utter disdain for
 the awards.  He had his own goals, achieved them, made many times the
 box office of the awarded films, and his best will go down in flick history
 while the nominees of his day gather dust on the shelves at the Video Ark...

  Do while it may be a bold move by the Academy, it's probably futile.

  bb
52.5492CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Feb 14 1997 17:287

 How much longer will the first Star Wars movie be in the theatres?



 Jim
52.5493BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Feb 14 1997 17:354

	I think until March. Cuz that is when #2 gets released. But maybe they
will leave all three out for people to see.....
52.5494Ninotchka? Never heard of itTROOA::BUTKOVICHDain BramagedFri Feb 14 1997 18:2852
    From Mr.Showbiz - Top 50 Date Movies
    
    			  1. The Philadelphia Story
                          2. Doctor Zhivago
                          3. Moonstruck
                          4. Casablanca
                          5. Hannah and Her Sisters
                          6. Ninotchka
                          7. Heaven Can Wait
                          8. Woman of the Year
                          9. A Room With a View
                          10. Roman Holiday
                          11. The Palm Beach Story
                          12. Four Weddings and a Funeral
                          13. The Princess Bride
                          14. His Girl Friday
                          15. Roxanne
                          16. To Have and Have Not
                          17. The English Patient
                          18. To Catch a Thief
                          19. Arthur
                          20. The Shop Around the Corner
                          21. Sleepless in Seattle
                          22. Sabrina
                          23. Bringing Up Baby
                          24. Manhattan
                          25. Breakfast at Tiffany's
    			  26. Groundhog Dag
    			27. It Happened One Night
                         28. The Awful Truth
                         29. Bull Durham
                         30. The More the Merrier
                         31. The Apartment
                         32. Say Anything
                         33. Some Like It Hot
                         34. Ghost
                         35. Born Yesterday
                         36. The Goodbye Girl
                         37. Holiday
                         38. Marty
                         39. The Lady Eve
                         40. Adam's Rib
                         41. Splash
                         42. Wuthering Heights
                         43. Before Sunrise
                         44. Stairway to Heaven
                         45. An Affair To Remember
                         46. Trouble in Paradise
                         47. What's Up Doc?
                         48. When Harry Met Sally
                         49. Brief Encounter
                         50. Crossing Delancey
52.5495BOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveFri Feb 14 1997 18:284
    Until February 21st.  The Empire Strikes Back is in theaters on the
    22nd
    
    --geoff
52.5496POWDML::HANGGELILet's Play ChocolateFri Feb 14 1997 18:293
    
    You've never heard of Ninotchka!
        
52.5497PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BFri Feb 14 1997 18:334
  .5496  I think she knew that.


52.5498CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri Feb 14 1997 18:408


 Thanks, Geoff!



 Jim
52.5499POWDML::HANGGELILet's Play ChocolateFri Feb 14 1997 18:446
           ,
    Di:  8^p.
           '
    
    Chris, have you ever seen "Silk Stockings" (Cyd Charisse/Fred Astaire)?
    
52.5500BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Fri Feb 14 1997 18:463

	I like the USA Network version better
52.5501.SWAM1::MEUSE_DAFri Feb 14 1997 19:0514
    
    Star Wars went over the $400mil mark today surpassing E.T.
    
    Steven Spielberg took out a full page ad in most of the Hollywood trade
    papers showing E.T crowning the little R2D2 with a crown. And
    some words of congratulations to Lucas from Spielberg were included.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
52.5502TROOA::BUTKOVICHDain BramagedFri Feb 14 1997 19:061
    Deb - Nope... haven't seen Silk Stockings either.  Possible rentals?
52.5503NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Feb 17 1997 12:191
Ninotchka proved that Garbo could do comedy.
52.5504LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 17 1997 13:194
    'the english patient'.  a good movie, but if you're 
    expecting it to follow the book you're in for a
    disappointment.
    
52.5505PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 17 1997 13:254
  not if you read the book first.


52.5506LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 17 1997 13:343
    .5505
    
    hunh?  you cared not for the book?
52.5507PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 17 1997 13:366
   if you read the book first, the movie can't help
   but follow it.



52.5508LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 17 1997 13:381
    mini-whoosh on me.
52.5509CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Feb 17 1997 19:108

 Contributed my $8.00 (for 2 matinee tickets) to the eleventy billion dollars
 "Star Wars" took in this weekend.  Enjoyed it, but it would have been better
 had some of the parents not let their little ones run up and down the aisle.


 Jim
52.5510LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 17 1997 19:162
    too bad you weren't sitting on the aisle, jim,
    you could've tripped them.
52.5511CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Feb 17 1997 19:198

 I was, and I thought about it.




 Jim
52.5512LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 17 1997 19:201
    heh heh heh.
52.5513BUSY::SLABGrandchildren of the DamnedMon Feb 17 1997 21:078
    
    	I watched most of "Super Mario Bros." [again] the other night and
    	was surprised to notice that Fisher Stevens played 1 of the goons.
    
    	Didn't notice him the 1st time I saw it.
    
    	The movie was pretty stupid, but very well-cast.
    
52.5514BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Feb 17 1997 22:293

	Luigi was pretty cute in that....
52.5515BUSY::SLABGreat baby! Delicious!!Mon Feb 17 1997 22:474
    
    	John Leguizamo isn't a great actor, but I seem to like his char-
    	acters for some reason.
    
52.5516NETRIX::&quot;walters@ddraig.zk3.dec.com&quot;Tue Feb 18 1997 16:4212
Finally got to see Il Postino.  Great movie, thoroughly recommend it.










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52.5517BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteTue Feb 18 1997 16:446
    
    	I've seen the beginning of "The Professional" a couple times, but
    	still haven't seen anything beyond the 1st 1/2 hour.
    
    	Is the movie good overall?
    
52.5518PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Feb 18 1997 16:444
 Finally a review of Il Postino by someone whose taste I trust.
 Thank you.

52.5519BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteTue Feb 18 1997 16:4612
    
    	Oh, and I bought "Cry-Baby" a few months ago and finally watched
    	it the other day ... I'd remembered it to be good, but it was even
    	better than good.
    
    	I have to buy the soundtrack soon ... lots of 50's stuff, like
    	rockabilly and barbershop and doo-wop.  Great stuff.
    
    	Rachel Sweet does the vocals on most of the songs that Amy Locane
    	sings, and she's got a great voice.  Would someone be so kind as
    	to recommend a Rachel Sweet album to buy?  Thanks for any info.
    
52.5520BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteTue Feb 18 1997 16:475
    
    	RE: Diane
    
    	You call "great movie" a review??
    
52.5521PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Feb 18 1997 16:483
   .5520  Michaud?  Is that you?

52.5522BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteTue Feb 18 1997 16:553
    
    	Yes, how kind for you to of noticed.
    
52.5523PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Feb 18 1997 16:574
   .5522  aagagag.
	  hey, you're not trying to rathole this topic, are you?

52.5524BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteTue Feb 18 1997 16:598
    
    	No, of course not.
    
    	But to compile an all-time list of the noters who've ratholed the
    	most topics, see
    
    	http://www.altavista.notes.lkg.dec.com:8080/rathole
    
52.5525BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Feb 18 1997 18:146
| <<< Note 52.5519 by BUSY::SLAB "A thousand pints of lite" >>>


| Would someone be so kind as to recommend a Rachel Sweet album to buy?  

	Jim? Your queue I think....
52.5526POWDML::HANGGELILet's Play ChocolateTue Feb 18 1997 18:193
    
    What a line.
    
52.5527ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Feb 18 1997 19:163
    
    shawn. "The Proffesional" is worth a see. I've seen it two or three
    times. I liked "Assasins" better, but what the heck.
52.5528DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!!Tue Feb 18 1997 19:205
    
    
    	professional
    	assassins
    
52.5529POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Feb 18 1997 19:201
    THose are the best kind.
52.5530ShineYIELD::BARBIERITue Feb 18 1997 20:001
      I really want to see Shine.  
52.5531POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Feb 18 1997 20:011
    I hear it's well polished.
52.5532BUSY::SLABAll the leaves are brownTue Feb 18 1997 20:043
    
    	And a shoe-in for an award this year.
    
52.5533Il PostinoNETRIX::&quot;walters@ddraig.zk3.dec.com&quot;Tue Feb 18 1997 20:1817
Yes Di, it's a little gem of a movie.  I was transported.
  
Interesting, for a change, to experience a film in which a
suspension of belief is not required.  Perfectly believable
characters acting so naturally that an initial uneasy sense
of voyeurism quickly gives way to almost familial involvement.

A brilliant cast of accomplished performers and no huge egos
getting in the way.  Even the scenery had equal billing.





  
  
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52.5534PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Feb 18 1997 20:244
  .5533  i'll definitely check it out.  sounds great.


52.5535BUSY::SLABAlways a Best Man, never a groomTue Feb 18 1997 20:325
    
    	Yes, that was very close to a review.
    
    	Now you may proceed to wish to view the movie, Diane.
    
52.5536Don't cry for me. Argentina...GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaWed Feb 19 1997 11:4510
  No, I'm not a Madonna fan, but I give Evita a thumbs-up.

  If you're into pathos and politics, you'll probably like it.  Of course,
 afterwards I went and looked up some of the history.  Pretty accurate.

  Pryce is a believable Peron, and Antonio whats-his-name steals the show
 as the narrator/many-parts guy Webber needed to tie up the story.

  bb
52.5537NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Feb 19 1997 11:554
>                                                                Of course,
> afterwards I went and looked up some of the history.  Pretty accurate.

So in real life they burst into song?  Those wacky Argentines!
52.5538BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Feb 19 1997 12:251
too funny, Gerald!
52.5539PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Feb 19 1997 15:5915
  If These Walls Could Talk - three vignettes about women in the '50s,
  '70s, and '90s dealing with unwanted pregnancies.  Demi Moore, Sissy
  Spacek, and Cher were the big names.  Engrossing and well-acted, I
  thought.

  Grace of My Heart - this goes onto the gee-that-was-unusual list.
  Another engrossing story, starring Illeana Douglas, about a woman
  trying to make it in the songwriting/singing business, starting in the 
  late doo-wop period, and dealing with some oddball guys (John Turturro,
  Eric Stoltz, Matt Dillon).




52.5540LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againWed Feb 19 1997 16:031
    A- for the overview.  next.
52.5541PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Feb 19 1997 16:064
   A-  ?  was it my penmanship?


52.5542LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againWed Feb 19 1997 16:081
    you used 'engrossing' twice.  sorry.
52.5543ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownWed Feb 19 1997 16:092
    
    B+ for arguing the rating.
52.5544PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Feb 19 1997 16:144
   i didn't argue.  i inquired.  C+ for reading comprehension..


52.5545ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownWed Feb 19 1997 16:332
    
    <-------- agagagag
52.5546POWDML::HANGGELILet's Play ChocolateWed Feb 19 1997 16:353
    
    D- for overuse of agagagag 8^).
    
52.5547TROOA::BUTKOVICHDain BramagedWed Feb 19 1997 17:286
    I saw 'Grace of my Heart' at last years film festival - liked the
    earlier part of the movie but not so much the "later years".  That
    Ileana has the *biggest* eyes I have ever seen!
    
    Who directed 'If these Walls could Talk"?  I'm thinking it was Diane
    Keaton or if not, some other actress.
52.5548PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Feb 19 1997 17:319
>            <<< Note 52.5547 by TROOA::BUTKOVICH "Dain Bramaged" >>>

>    Who directed 'If these Walls could Talk"?  I'm thinking it was Diane
>    Keaton or if not, some other actress.

	uh-oh.  sorry, but i don't know.  i am so ashamed.


52.5549BUSY::SLABBe gone - you have no powers hereWed Feb 19 1997 17:323
    
    	Cher and Nancy Savoca.
    
52.5550DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Feb 19 1997 21:3811
re:"If These Walls Could Talk": this thing seemed shamelessly partisan and 
one-sided on the issue - even as a believer in the pro-choice point of view,
I thought, in fairness, that this film played on the worst stereotypes of the
prolife side. While well acted and directed, it left me feeling like someone
had been prosletysing (sp?? proselytizing ...how the heck dya spell that?) in 
my face with the most blatent kind of propaganda.

AMC was running old classic horror films last night - saw the original "The 
Fly". I had forgotten the quality of this film, and the ending scene is
still shocking, even now. And I love that "modern kitchen".
52.5551PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Feb 19 1997 22:389
  .5550  I didn't think it was _that_ one-sided, but even if it
	 was intended to be, what's the problem?  It was just a movie,
	 not an instructional film or documentary.  As far as I know,
	 movie makers can come down an any side of an issue they
	 want.



52.5552NETRIX::&quot;walters@ddraig.zk3.dec.com&quot;Thu Feb 20 1997 02:567
I hear that Star Wars is now the biggest engrossing movie ever.





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52.5553"special edition" Star Wars not my bag...GAAS::BRAUCHERChampagne SupernovaThu Feb 20 1997 13:0732
  Well, I was dragged out to see the "Limited Edition" version.  Some of
 the "improvements" of the special effects are indeed much better.  Not
 being a SW devotee, perhaps I missed some.  The trouble is, some key scenes
 have old lower-quality effects you can't avoid, so it becomes a mixed bag.
 It is scary how YOUNG ford, fisher, & hamill were then.  I also forgot how
 incompatible the original is with the subsequent development of the sequels.
 No getting around it - the story doesn't hang together at all, even on its
 own terms.

  That all said, it is utterly useless to argue about whether Star Wars is a
 good movie - it is like arguing about whether the Pyramids or the Parthenon
 are good architecture.  Only a few times in the talkie era have characters,
 situations, scenes, and lines passed beyond film as cultural icons.  Just
 as you can say "Frankly, my dear...", "We're not in Kansas anymore." or
 "Round up the usual suspects.", you can say "May the Force be with you."
 anywhere in the civilized world and everybody has the same connections.

  So even if like me, this is not your generation's imagery, you will find
 yourself lost in countless cultural situations if you don't know about
 these films.  A movie production cannot buy this - countless millionaires
 have gone broke trying.  You have to be in the right place at the right
 time with the right picture for that generation.  Star Wars was brilliantly
 cast, elemental and uncomplicated as such films must be to succeed, with
 a great score.  It raised the bar on special effects for all subsequent
 attempts at its genre.  One need only look at pre-SW and post-SW films to
 realize that Lucas changed film forever with the first SW (in a way the
 sequels did not).

  But, personally, I could do without the "improved" special edition.  Just
 leave film history alone and go on to a new project.
  bb
52.5554POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorThu Feb 20 1997 13:101
    coming from you, that was a glowing endorsement.
52.5555ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownThu Feb 20 1997 13:252
    
    more like a damning with faint praise if ever I've heard.
52.5556CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Feb 20 1997 13:3111
    You forgot....
    
    "Red leader to Gold Leader!" 
    
    "Luke! You've turned off your targeting computer!"
    
    "Cover me Wedge, I'm going in!" 
    
    "This one's mine."
    
    "Oopa POO poo ahhaaahahaaahaaaahh!" 
52.5557BULEAN::BANKSOrthogonality is your friendThu Feb 20 1997 13:338
Oh, man, I'm having Lucas dialog flashbacks.  Almost as bad as Lucas
electronic flashbacks, except the lighting's better.

The only way I could stand to watch the original SW anymore is to humor
myself by counting the number of times someone says "it's our only hope."

Gimme the original 2001 (the one where weightless people couldn't stomp
around) any day.
52.5558POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorThu Feb 20 1997 13:391
    or "I've got a bad feeling about this".
52.5559DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Thu Feb 20 1997 15:3923
.5551

>.5550  I didn't think it was _that_ one-sided, but even if it
>	 was intended to be, what's the problem?  It was just a movie,
>	 not an instructional film or documentary.  As far as I know,
>	 movie makers can come down an any side of an issue they
>	 want.

True enough, I suppose I just prefer it when films with political
themes let me do my own thinking.

Just curious ... did you really think it wasn't _that_ one sided?

Besides:
> not an instructional film or documentary.

Having seen the results of liberal bias in the media on the gun control
issue, I am a bit oversensitive to what I see as propaganda disguised as
entertainment. These people are aware of how much their "entertainment"
can influence public opinion. In the case of "If These Walls...", I happen
to agree, for the most part, with the expressed viewpoint. It still gives
me the creeps to see it tho.
52.5560PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Feb 20 1997 15:4816
> <<< Note 52.5559 by DECWET::LOWE "Bruce Lowe, DECwest Eng.,  DTN 548-8910" >>>

>Just curious ... did you really think it wasn't _that_ one sided?

	Well yes, I'm not usually given to saying things I don't
	mean. ;>

	I didn't come away thinking that they were trying to say that 
	pro-lifers were evyl or that abortion should be the answer for
	everyone with an unwanted pregnancy or anything like that.  The
	pain and conflict each woman coped with in trying to make a
	decision was not treated lightly.  It didn't strike me as being
	unrealistic either - I wouldn't call it "propaganda".



52.5561BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Thu Feb 20 1997 21:245

	I just saw a commercial where they said the the 2nd star wars version
is out this week, but that the 1st version is going to stay out. I had thought
it would replace it. Oh well, soon all three will be out at once. Yawn...
52.5562Familiar phrase, unexpected contextSMURF::PBECKPaul BeckFri Feb 21 1997 16:3412
    At a tennis tournament a couple of years ago (maybe Wimbledon), the
    doubles team of the wacko Jensen brothers (Luke and Murphy) were in
    the process of losing rather badly after having won several rounds.
    Luke was serving (he's an ambidextrous server, fwiw, which can
    confound his opponents) but falling behind.
    
    From the crowd came the call:
    
    	"Use the Force, Luke."
    
    The crowd (and Luke) lost it completely. (Luke thereupon lost the
    game as well, so the Force didn't help.)
52.5563.SWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Feb 24 1997 15:038
    
    For the weekend sales figures;
    
    1.Empire Stikes Back
    2.Star Wars
    3.Absolute Power
    
    
52.5564POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 24 1997 15:042
    Now George Lucas can afford that cute little island he's had his eye
    on.
52.5565SMURF::WALTERSMon Feb 24 1997 15:051
    Australia?
52.5566ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Feb 24 1997 15:273
    
    saw "The Bodyguard" over the weekend. I love that movie. Whitney
    can belt out those tunes.
52.5567Now that it has opened. _Rosewood_TLE::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Feb 24 1997 15:2972
| Finally a review of Il Postino by someone whose taste I trust.
| Thank you.
    
    Well, now I know where I stand, I guess.  (See .1299.)
    
    -----
    
    
    _Rosewood_.  Directed by John Singleton.  A damn good movie that is both
    very hard to watch and very hard not to watch.  Leading actor is
    Ving Rhames (Mr. Mann) with supporting actor Jon Voight (John Wright).
    Voight got top billing, go figure.  Supporting Actress Esther Rolle
    (Sarah) was wasted in a roll that made her Florida Evans look
    complex.  Elise Neal (Scrappie) and Don Cheadle (Sylvester) round
    out the main cast.
    
    One of the best violent films in recent memory.  Very loosely based
    on a true incident of a lynch mob which destroyed Rosewood, Florida,
    a small black and relatively prosperous town.  Many black citizens
    of Rosewood were murdered during the week long horror.  That's the
    true part.
    
    But it is a fictional drama, which captures the terror without
    holding to historical accuracy.  (Since most of the history of
    what happened that week has been lost, there really is no choice but to
    tell a story set in Rosewood.)
    
    [some spoilers below?]
    
    
    Mr. Mann rides into this wonderful town on his horse Booker T.
    Mann has just returned from the trenches of "The Great War" (he
    volunteered).  Quickly falling in love with Scrappie, he decides
    to settle in Rosewood.  With his separation bonus, he outbids John Wright
    for a few acres of land sold at auction.
    
    
    But just as he is about to close the deal, the town is torn apart
    by a lie and a mob.
    
    
    The cinematography (Johnny Jensen) is wonderful, the music
    (John Williams) is, well, John Williams.
    
    
    The film starts strong, stays strong, but then wanders into some
    action-adventure near parody when Mr. Mann returns.  But somehow,
    that worked.  (It worked for John Wayne too.)
    
    
    What didn't work was this need for some salvation of John Wright.
    (As if saving a few women and children is salvation for standing
    by and letting a few dozen men, women, and children die?)
    
    But this is *not* a _Cry_Freedom_ which used Steven Biko's (Denzel
    Washington) death as just an excuse for the real story, Donald
    Woods' (Kevin Kline) Sound-of-Music like escape from RSA.
    
    John Wright is an ambigous man, certainly not the *gasp*
    liberal of "Cry Freedom."  At best Wright is a man of
    enlightened self-interest - heavy on the self-interest and light
    on the enlightened.  And it's hard to charge John Wright as a coward,
    even though he found it easy to make the charge against Mr. Mann.
    
    
    If you want to watch a movie where good white characters "save"
    some black(s), spend your time watching Grisham's _A_Time_To_Kill_
    or Riener's _Ghosts_of_Mississippi_.
    
    (I am *not* damning Rosewood with faint praise.)
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5568BUSY::SLABGot into a war with reality ...Mon Feb 24 1997 15:336
    
    	RE: Battis
    
    	I thought the movie was stupid.  But Whitney Houston is a babe,
    	and that almost made watching it worth it.
    
52.5569LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 24 1997 15:363
    costner's haircut was hysterical.  sawer it in
    previews.  i guess he was going for the steve
    mcqueen look.
52.5570SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveMon Feb 24 1997 16:0614
    
    	Watched Fargo over the weekend.
    
    	Too eerie seeing Slabbo all over the screen.
    
    	Besides that, it didn't really live up to my expectations.
    
    	It held my interest, but I didn't agree with the movie (jacket's?)
    	classification of the movie as a "thriller", nor with my sister's
    	comment that "the movie goes by very quickly".
    
    	I very good rental movie, but not one I'd vote for as Best Picture.
    
    
52.5571BUSY::SLABGrandchildren of the DamnedMon Feb 24 1997 16:106
    
    	You forgot to mention that although there is a passing resemblance,
    	I am MUCH more attractive than Steve is.
    
       	At least, I hope you forgot to mention it.
    
52.5572CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Feb 24 1997 16:1111


 Watched "Always", a painfully dull sleeper of a movie which my ex convinced
 me to watch because it has airplanes in it.  If I were able to rouse myself
 from the hypnotic state this movie had me in (and get her pit bull off of my
 lap) I would have shut the blasted thing off.



 Jim
52.5573TROOA::BUTKOVICHpeople in masks cannot be trustedMon Feb 24 1997 16:162
    <---  I love the scene where Holly is wearing the white dress and
    dancing with the ghost of Richard
52.5574SMURF::WALTERSMon Feb 24 1997 16:175
    I thought Fargo was largo too.  I was afraid that it was just me.
    
    We also watched a strange and quirky British movie called Gallowglass
    which was also about a woman being kidnapped.  Very low budget stuff
    but turned out to be more interesting than Fargo.
52.5575NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Feb 24 1997 16:191
I guess I'll forgo Fargo.
52.5576CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageMon Feb 24 1997 16:253
    It isn't a thriller,
    
    It is a kinky tradge-comedy.  I liked it, but Frznk couldn't stand it.  
52.5577POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 24 1997 16:261
    Couldn't you cast a spell on Frank and make hime like it?
52.5578CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageMon Feb 24 1997 16:282
    No, he has free will.  Anything less would be boring.   There are a few
    people I would turn into toads, glenn, but why be redundant?
52.5579PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 24 1997 16:285
   i loved it.  nice and quirky.
   i really like Buscemi anyway and Frances was primo.


52.5580CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Feb 24 1997 16:296
>    <---  I love the scene where Holly is wearing the white dress and
>    dancing with the ghost of Richard


 ah, it was a dumb movie.  I had it figured out from the start.
52.5581POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 24 1997 16:334
    Well Meg, I'd like to chat some more about this, but I've got work to
    do, so I'd better hop to it.
    
    
52.5582Time to kill!MILKWY::JACQUESMon Feb 24 1997 16:5014
    Watched a few good movies this weekend.
    
    	Time to Kill - w/Sandra Bullock. A great film about a 
    	murder trial in Mississippi that raises racial tensions. 
    	Excellant! 2+ hours long but worth the time.
    
    	Frantic - A somewhat dated film starring Harrison Ford. 
    	Him and his wife travel to Paris for a medical convention.
    	The wife dissappears shortly after they arrive. Harrison
    	spends the rest of the movie trying to find her. This 
    	movie creeps up on you very slowly. Harrison seems very
    	low keyed in this film. It's not typical for him.
    
	Mark
52.5583LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 24 1997 17:412
    is julia ormond a good actress?  or is she
    just another face?
52.5584POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 24 1997 17:431
    I thought she was good in Sabrina.
52.55858^)BUSY::SLABGreat baby! Delicious!!Mon Feb 24 1997 17:465
    
    	RE: .5584
    
    	Yeah, nice face.
    
52.5586Humphrey/Audrey/Hal - don't settle for less....TLE::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Feb 24 1997 17:475
    
    Harrison Ford wasn't good in Sabrina.  (One of his clunkers.)
    Neither was Julia Ormand.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5587TROOA::BUTKOVICHpeople in masks cannot be trustedMon Feb 24 1997 18:1316
    I saw "Shine" for the second time this weekend.   What a wonderful
    portrayal of one man's struggle with his genius and madness, made even
    more poignant by the fact that it is a true story.
    
    I believe that Geoffrey Rush would well deserve the Oscar, although I
    feel Noah Taylor had the harder role.  He acted out the "middle" years
    of Helfgott - showing the struggles against his domineering father and
    his emotional breakdown.  It might interest any future viewers that the
    recording of Rachmaninoff's "Piano Concerto #3" used in the film is the
    actual tape of the one Helfgott played just before his breakdown.
    
    I've now seen 4 out of the 5 nominated best movies. (Haven't seen
    Secrets and Lies yet).  I think the "English Patient" will probably win
    "Best Picture" because Hollywood seems to love the "epic" but I hope
    "Shine" gets recognized enough so that more films of it's style will be
    made. 
52.5588ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Feb 24 1997 18:362
    
    that reviw garners an A.
52.5589CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Feb 24 1997 18:376
    
>    that reviw garners an A.


 your spelling garners an "F".
52.5590LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 24 1997 18:455
    i'm deeply troubled about julia ormand playing
    smilla in the upcoming movie "miss smilla's
    sense of snow".  i also don't like it one bit
    that they futzed with the book title by adding
    the 'miss'.
52.5591PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 24 1997 18:586
  .5590  8-[  This is indeed bad news.  I just can't picture it.
	      She's very beautiful but not Smilla-esque at all, imo.



52.5592TROOA::BUTKOVICHpeople in masks cannot be trustedMon Feb 24 1997 18:591
    but Gabriel Byrne (sp?) will make up for it!
52.5593LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 24 1997 19:011
    yes, i assume he'll play the mechanic.
52.5594PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 24 1997 19:054
  .5592  aye.  {swoon}


52.5595ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownMon Feb 24 1997 19:134
    
    not having read smilla's sense of snow, i can't comment on the
    character's beauty, however, Julia Ormand is quite the lovely
    woman. You can check out her acting ability in "First Knight".
52.5596Its Ormond (and it's to easy)....TLE::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Feb 24 1997 19:194
    
    Battis and I have something in common.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5597PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 24 1997 19:259
>    <<< Note 52.5596 by TLE::LICEA_KANE "when it's comin' from the left" >>>
    
>    Battis and I have something in common.

	i think we probably all agree she's beautiful, and i think she's
	a decent actress, but she doesn't fit with my image of Smilla.


52.5598POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 24 1997 19:261
    Does the book come highly recommended?
52.5599PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 24 1997 19:283
  .5598  by whom?

52.5600LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Feb 24 1997 19:281
    first off, smilla's 37 years old.
52.5601BUSY::SLABA cross upon her bedroom wall ...Mon Feb 24 1997 19:304
    
    	Yeah, and the cast of "Beverly Hills 90210" is about that old and
    	they're still freshmen in college.
    
52.5602POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 24 1997 19:381
    by youm.
52.5603PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Feb 24 1997 19:533
  .5602  by meem it does.

52.5604POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 24 1997 19:551
    8)
52.5605Julia OrmondTLE::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Feb 24 1997 20:0217
|>    Battis and I have something in common.
|
|	i think we probably all agree she's beautiful, and i think she's
|	a decent actress, but she doesn't fit with my image of Smilla.
    
    Battis and I misspeeled her name "Ormand."  That's what we have in
    common.
    
    
    So she's not a Sabrina, not a Smilla.  Not clear she's even a Guinevere.
    When miscast so often, it's hard to judge acting ability.
    
    
    As far as looks, we *are* talking about an industry that thinks
    Janeane Garofalo is unattractive.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5606BUSY::SLABA cross upon her bedroom wall ...Mon Feb 24 1997 20:063
    
    	Janeane Garofalo IS unattractive.
    
52.5607POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Feb 24 1997 20:111
    I think she is attractive. 
52.5608POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorTue Feb 25 1997 04:353
    Rented Fargo and The Arrival. Two for two on a two for one night.
    
    Teri Polo, <thud>.
52.5609WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Feb 25 1997 09:496
    how 'bout this... Nick Cage as the next Superman.
    
    i have a hard time with this one.
    
    on being miscast... who's to say. is miscasting real or
    an excuse for bad acting? i dunno. 
52.5610BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Feb 25 1997 10:084

	That is a bad choice for superman. Brendon Frasier would be a better
choice. 
52.5611SMURF::WALTERSTue Feb 25 1997 11:261
    Ormond fit the bill for my Gwenhwyfar.  Snog index of 8.
52.5612ACISS1::BATTISChicago - My Kind of TownTue Feb 25 1997 11:373
    
    well, I find Jeanne Tripplehorn very attractive too, so you know
    how my taste in women run.
52.5613SMURF::WALTERSTue Feb 25 1997 11:441
    close second to a cheesburger?
52.5614BUSY::SLABAfterbirth of a NationTue Feb 25 1997 14:313
    
    	Jeanne Tripplehorn is a babe.
    
52.5615LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againTue Feb 25 1997 15:394
    the actress who plays smilla should have
    the presence and toughness of a gena rowlands,
    but unfortunately, those qualities are mainly
    absent from the actresses in vogue today.
52.5616POWDML::HANGGELILet's Play ChocolateMon Mar 03 1997 11:535
    
    Harriet the Spy.  Not as good as the book, but worth the rental fee.
    
    I saw !Joan's hallway.
    
52.5617ACISS1::BATTISCarnations,not just for Easter anymoreMon Mar 03 1997 12:316
    
    "Last Dance" Sharon Stone did an excellent job as the convicted 
    murderess who is sentenced to death. Randy Quaid also put in another
    good performance. Also saw Eraser with Arnold. Good action flick,
    typical Scwartznegger film. Vanessa Williams was looking rather
    stunning.
52.5618SMURF::WALTERSMon Mar 03 1997 12:374
    Freeway.
    
    Just as I thought I'd already seen the worse that Hollywood could
    offer.                                             
52.5619BUSY::SLABGrandchildren of the DamnedMon Mar 03 1997 12:504
    
    	So, relatively speaking, "Harriet the Spy" wasn't that bad after
    	all, was it, Colin?
    
52.5620WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Mar 03 1997 12:521
    rented Phenomenon Saturday. only mildly entertaining.
52.5621SMURF::WALTERSMon Mar 03 1997 12:541
    <takes highly baffled look out of drawer and dons same.>
52.5622LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Mar 03 1997 12:577
    "Shine".  terrific.  well deserving of all the 
    accolades.  the portrayal of the father was very
    well done - his actions were repulsive, but the
    actor managed to create a character who was more 
    to be pitied than hated.  not an easy task.  
    
    
52.5623TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeSun Mar 09 1997 17:351
    Rented "Feeling Minnesota" - it was baaaaaaaddddd!
52.5624POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Mar 10 1997 00:214
    I just finished watching Star Trek Generations, again. It is my second
    favourite ST movie after the wrath of Khan.
    
    It's a good movie.
52.5625SCASS1::BARBER_APsychobilly FreakoutMon Mar 10 1997 00:311
    Star Trek, blecko.
52.5626POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Mar 10 1997 00:5017
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52.5627SCASS1::BARBER_APsychobilly FreakoutMon Mar 10 1997 02:293
    boy howdy!
    
    My, what a ...
52.5628BUSY::SLABGreat baby! Delicious!!Mon Mar 10 1997 04:155
    
    	RE: .5624
    
    	So it's your third favorite Star Trek movie, right?
    
52.5629WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Mar 10 1997 10:5310
    watched Courage Under Fire. pretty good movie and character
    studies.
    
    the little girl that plays Meg Ryan's daughter is an exact
    copy of Meg. incredibile likeness.
    
    some very good insights into the characters, some "edge of your
    seat" moments. 
    
    definitely worth renting.
52.5630CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageMon Mar 10 1997 11:432
    Hunchback of Notre Dame.  This has to be the schindler's list of kid
    vid.  Even Bambii wasn't as violent.
52.5631"dramatization"GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersMon Mar 10 1997 12:166
  Fargo.  Reenactment of 1987 crimes in ND & MN.  Good score.

  Some of these people were not nice.

   bb
52.5632LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Mar 10 1997 12:232
    hey!  braucher rented one of them new-fangled
    independies!  excellent choice!
52.5633GAVEL::JANDROWMon Mar 10 1997 13:354
    
    over the weekend, steve rented ... well, nevermind...this is a family
    conference...  %^>
    
52.5634BUSY::SLABA Parting Shot in the DarkMon Mar 10 1997 13:363
    
    	Filthy.
    
52.5635BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Mar 10 1997 14:111
raq marie!!!!!!
52.5636GAVEL::JANDROWMon Mar 10 1997 14:164
    
    what?
    
    
52.5637LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Mar 10 1997 14:421
    _raging bull_.  de niro is unbelievable.
52.5638PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 10 1997 14:495
   .5637  his acting's not bad either. 



52.5639NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Mar 10 1997 14:531
I thought actors are supposed to be believable.
52.5640ACISS1::BATTISCarnations,not just for Easter anymoreMon Mar 10 1997 15:142
    
    oph, next time rent "A Bronx Tale" You'll enjoy that one as well.
52.5641LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Mar 10 1997 15:175
    he's fit and svelte as the young la motta,
    but he had to gain at least 25 lbs to play
    the older, burnt-out la motta.  that's
    committment to your craft.  oh, and it was
    pesci's first big part.  he was great, too.
52.5642LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againMon Mar 10 1997 15:263
    .5640
    
    i liked that one, too.
52.5643SMURF::WALTERSMon Mar 10 1997 15:597
    Hunchback of Notre Dame.  Is this a kid's movie, I ask myself.
    
    Family Thing, Robert Duval and James Earl Jones.  An understated
    sockeroo.  I loved it. 
    
    Last Dance.  Nae bad.  Stone did good job on this, without any help
    from baps and pins.
52.5644ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteMon Mar 10 1997 16:024
    
    .5643
    
    yep. Stone did a great job in that movie. good accent as well.
52.5645BUSY::SLABA swift kick in the butt - $1Mon Mar 10 1997 16:045
    
    	No baps??
    
    	I've got to wonder why she even did that movie then.
    
52.5646SMURF::WALTERSMon Mar 10 1997 16:061
    They were there, but they weren't doing the acting for a change.
52.5647TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeMon Mar 10 1997 16:103
    I rented "Mrs. Winterbourne" last night because I remember Deb saying
    she liked it.   I agree - it was sweet.  And Ricki Lake was a surprise. 
    She should give up her day job and do more movies.
52.56488^)POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Mon Mar 10 1997 16:103
    
    Yeah, and Brendan Fraser...!
    
52.5649TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeMon Mar 10 1997 16:131
    <--- He's from Toronto.  Cutie-patootie!
52.5650BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteMon Mar 10 1997 16:395
    
    	Ricki Lake was in "Cry-Baby" also.
    
    	You all really should watch that movie.
    
52.5651SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Mar 10 1997 16:404
    .5641
    
    Dan Aykroyd put on a whopping 60 pounds for his role in _Driving Miss
    Daisy._
52.5652SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon Mar 10 1997 16:435
    Rented _Up Close and Personal_ and _Sgt Bilko_ this weekend.  Up Close
    is probably a chick flick and all, but I liked it.  Bilko was better
    with Phil Silvers inside the uniform, but Steve Martin and his crew did
    a pretty good job.  Martin just can't get flustered as well as Silvers
    did.
52.5653But still better than most....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue Mar 11 1997 15:4617
    
    Finally saw _Evita_ on the big screen.
    
    From Che's opening solo where an annoying fan couldn't decide if it
    wanted to rotate fast or slow, to a cast who couldn't articulate lyrics,
    to a "new" song just for the movie (actually, just for the single)
    that added absolutely nothing over the original final act of the
    show, to the whispers behind us of "what did they say?" or "she
    looks pregnant there"...
    
    ..._Evita_ missed it badly.
    
    Perhaps because my expectations were so low, the only highlight of the
    Movie was Madonna.  No, she still doesn't have what it takes to sing this
    role.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5654ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 15:574
    
    .5653
    
    our very own Siskel...   B to B+ for the review.
52.5655Home Theater... affordable and nice...SCASS1::WISNIEWSKIADEPT of the Virtual Space.Tue Mar 11 1997 16:0025
    I just bought a 100watt per channel surround sound receiver/amplifier 
    ($200 at Sams!) and set up six speakers in my living room...
    
    Independence day... Great Sounds for the end of the earth..
    
    Top Gun...          Great Sounds for the Jets taking off of 
                        aircraft carriers
    
    Crimson Tide        Great Sounds for that "Submarine" feeling pushing
                        the envelope on the sub-woofer.
    
    Screamers           Great Post-Apocalypse alternate-planet Sounds
                        for self contained chainsaws.
    
    Outerlimits(new)    GREAT intro sounds...
    
    Fantasia            GREAT Stereo arrangements from 1941..
    
    The mAsk            Great Cuban Pete mix...
    
    
    Dolby Surround Sound... Accept no substitutes...
    
    
    John W.
52.5656LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againTue Mar 11 1997 16:046
    .5652
    
    _Up Close and Personal_ was truly horrible.  imo.
    so pat, so predictable.  i switched it off during
    the prison riot, rewound it, and threw it in 
    kitchen.
52.5657TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeTue Mar 11 1997 16:061
    Hey, John.... I bet your neighbours love you!
52.5658BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Tue Mar 11 1997 16:095
    
    	"Cuban Pete" was mentioned either in "Stereo Review" or "Car Stereo
    	Review" as an excellently-recorded song.  And it does sound good on
    	a good stereo system.
    
52.5659CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Mar 11 1997 16:097

 Twister is great in Surround Sound (the movie, not the game).



 Jim
52.5660SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Mar 11 1997 16:318
    .5656
    
    It's just possible that I don't mind pat, predictable films.  On the
    other hand, I hadn't read any reviews of it, and I was unprepared for
    the way Redford's character was dealt with in Panama.  I'd hoped for a
    happier ending.
    
    Yup, I'm a sentimental old fool.
52.5661PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 11 1997 16:336
   much as i like Redford-gazing, i thought it blew chunks.




52.5662SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Tue Mar 11 1997 16:331
    No sentimental old fool, you, eh?
52.5663ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 11 1997 16:352
    
    <---- or just old. it had to be said, had too.
52.5664PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 11 1997 16:365
   .5662  yes, i am one.  that hasn't anything to do with
	  my opinion of the movie though.


52.5665LANDO::OLIVER_Bready to begin againTue Mar 11 1997 16:398
    .5660
    
    /the way Redford's character was dealt with in Panama.
    
    oh no!  he didn't die, did he?  
    
    redford walked through that movie, just like he walked
    through the other one with dimmie and woodie.
52.5666Ground zero it is...SCASS1::WISNIEWSKIADEPT of the Virtual Space.Tue Mar 11 1997 17:2812
    >  <<< Note 52.5657 by TROOA::BUTKOVICH "turn and face the strange" >>>

    >Hey, John.... I bet your neighbours love you!
    
    
    Only Late at nights and on weekends... 
    
    And the Neighbor kid though his car stereo was cool... I can make it
    sound like it's ground zero!!!
    
    John W [:)
    
52.5667FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Mar 12 1997 10:238
    
    
    	Watched "trainspotting" last night. Enjoyed it, but it was a
    bit....ummmm....different (for lack of a better word). I'm sure
    something was lost because of the cultural differences between the USA
    and Scotland, but it wasn't a major setback.
    
    
52.5668BUSY::SLABBe gone - you have no powers hereWed Mar 12 1997 10:4212
    
    	"The Brinks Job" was on at 3:00 this morning and I saw exactly
    	7 minutes of it before I fell asleep.  However, I did see it a
    	few years ago and thought it was excellent.
    
    	Peter Falk, Peter Boyle.
    
    
    	And "Strange Days" was on at 4:00 this morning but I didn't
    	even feel like getting out of bed to set the VCR.  Was this a
    	good movie?
    
52.56698}BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsWed Mar 12 1997 12:066
    Strange Days is pretty good...
    
    Are you a Creature of the Night?
    
    
    SueJ
52.5670What's he on?PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftWed Mar 12 1997 12:1010
|    	Watched "trainspotting" last night. Enjoyed it, but it was a
|   bit....ummmm....different (for lack of a better word). I'm sure
|   something was lost because of the cultural differences between the USA
|   and Scotland, but it wasn't a major setback.
    
    I watched it just a couple of days ago as well.  This is the movie
    Bob Dole believed glamorized drugs?
    
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5671CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageWed Mar 12 1997 12:213
    One of two, mr Bill.  the other one was Pulp Fiction.
    
    Of course, he hadn't seen either movie.  
52.5672BUSY::SLABBlack No. 1Wed Mar 12 1997 13:556
    
    	RE: .5669
    
    	I had downloaded a "Scrabble" game from the web and I was playing
    	it for awhile, so I logged in right before I went to bed.
    
52.5673SMURF::WALTERSMon Mar 17 1997 11:562
    "The English Patient".  Pile on the cliches, this is the Casablanca of
    the 90's.  
52.5674CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Mar 17 1997 12:025

 "I hate it"

               Elaine Benes
52.5675LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayMon Mar 17 1997 12:153
    "It's too long!"
    
               Elaine Benes
52.5676BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapMon Mar 17 1997 12:171
    That really was a good episode.
52.5677PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 18 1997 10:206
   the long kiss goodnight - geena davis, samuel l. jackson
   ilikeditquitealot. not the average action flick.  some pretty
   funny lines.


52.5678APACHE::KEITHDr. DeuceTue Mar 18 1997 10:465
    English Patient
    
    A little confusing at the beginning by jumping so much, an OK story but
    any movie with a lot of WW2 US military vehicles in can't be all bad...
    8-)
52.5679BUSY::SLABAnd when one of us is gone ...Tue Mar 18 1997 11:055
    
    	I saw "Assassins" last night, and the climactic showdown scene
    	ended very badly.  I mean, give me a break.  Maybe he could've
    	ricocheted a bullet off of a light fixture instead.
    
52.5680Mars Attack!, what a crock of $#!%KERNEL::FREKESLike a thief in the nightTue Mar 18 1997 11:2211
    My girlfriend wanted to see Mars Attack!. So off we go last night, and
    get out tickets. With the likes of Jack Nicholson, and Pierce Brosnan I
    thought it would have at least some redeeming qualities.
    Boy was I wrong. What a complete and utter load of crap. I find it hard
    to believe that quality actors like those would actually put their
    names to something as lousy as this film.
    
    I got so bored, that I walked out halfway through, to have a cigarette
    break. Something I rarely do in films.
    
    Steven
52.5681WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjTue Mar 18 1997 11:222
    If you'd seen any of the trailers for it, you'd have realized what you
    were getting yourself into.
52.5682ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteTue Mar 18 1997 11:273
    
    slabbo, considering your taste in tv viewing, i'm not surprised with
    your assessment of "Assassins", not in the least.
52.5683CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Mar 18 1997 12:269
    Watched The Glimmerman last night.  Usual Steven Segal stuff but 
    pleasantly enough Ivory Keenan Wayans received equal billing which 
    limited Segal's role.  It was an easy brainless pick not requiring too 
    much effort to watch.  Just what I needed.  I also managed to catch the
    end of Raider's of the Lost Ark before jumping to catch part of La
    Femme Nikita.  A night of playing root vegetable was just what I
    needed.  
    
    
52.5684BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Tue Mar 18 1997 12:527
    
    	RE: .5682
    
    	You mean you were impressed by that ending?
    
    	I thought the movie was OK overall.
    
52.5685TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeTue Mar 18 1997 15:313
    I saw Independence Day on video last night.  Checked my reality meter
    at the door and had a good time.   I thought Bill Pullman was a good
    choice for Prez and Jeff Goldblume had some good lines.  
52.5686POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 18 1997 15:323
    
    Bill Pullman is always different.
    
52.5687BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Tue Mar 18 1997 15:434
    
    	The strange thing is, though, that he always spells his name the
    	same way.
    
52.5688POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 18 1997 15:523
    
    Unlike Shakespeare.
    
52.5689SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveTue Mar 18 1997 16:378
    
    	Rented and watched "How to Make an American Quilt" Saturday
    	night.
    
    	Definitely one I could have missed and still managed to
    	live a full life.
    
    
52.5690CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Mar 18 1997 17:157

 Watched "Fly, Fly away" Friday night.  Predictable, but I loved the 
 geese.


 Jim
52.5691DPE1::ARMSTRONGTue Mar 18 1997 19:168
>   <<< Note 52.5690 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Give the world a smile each day" >>>
>
> Watched "Fly, Fly away" Friday night.  Predictable, but I loved the 
> geese.

    I think it was 'Fly Away Home'.
    Was that girl the same girl as in Piano?
    bob
52.5692ha ha CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Mar 18 1997 19:1810

 Oh, yeah..it was "Fly away home"..duh..


 Don't know if she was in the piano or not..I didn't think to look.



Jim
52.5693BUSY::SLABBeing weird isn't enoughTue Mar 18 1997 20:053
    
    	Well, Jim, then I think you should make a note and look tonight.
    
52.5694BUSY::SLABBeing weird isn't enoughTue Mar 18 1997 20:064
    
    	But anyways, yes, Anna Paquin was in both, and she was also in
    	the '96 remake of "Jane Eyre".
    
52.5695DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Mar 19 1997 15:2515
Caught "Executive Decision" the other night. Actually, it was pretty well 
done for that type of cliche hijack drama. Kurt Russell seemed more restrained
than usual, it was interesting seeing Siegal getting offed early on, and the
bad guy - isn't that the guy who plays Poirot? - he has the eyes which give
him major badguy credibility just by looking at the camera.

It was mostly fairly engaging, until ... <spoilers>

The end. It's as though winning with the plane still in the air just wasn't
enough for Hollywood. So they tacked on the final drama, totally unrelated to
the rest of the film, poured on the extrememly non-credible idiocy, and it
wound up looking like just another Kurt Russell vanity trip.

Enjoyable if you just switch it off prior to the last 15 minutes. 
52.5696POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Wed Mar 19 1997 15:277
    
    Kurt Russell is cute.  Ever see "Overboard"?  Wa-hoo.
    
    :+]
    
    
    
52.5697PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 19 1997 15:278
    
>    Kurt Russell is cute.


	er, beg to differ again.

    

52.5698CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Mar 19 1997 15:282
    I rented Last Man Standing last night.  Reminded me of the Two Jakes
    meets Mullholland Drive.  Give it a pass.  Wish I had. 
52.5699POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Wed Mar 19 1997 15:303
    
    I'm 0 for 2 with Di today 8^I.
    
52.5700oh, and lose the -WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Mar 19 1997 15:323
   > Kurt Russell is cute.  Ever see "Overboard"?  Wa-hoo.
    
     you rang?
52.5701SMURF::WALTERSWed Mar 19 1997 15:325
    
    <- Last Man Standing.  That was a bit of a stinker.  Thinking of it
    as a kind of spoofy transfer of a Japanese samurai tale just about
    makes it an amusing diversion.
    
52.5702SUBSYS::NEUMYERHere's your signWed Mar 19 1997 15:359
    
    	LMS was good as a rental. One thing I'd like to know about this and
    other movies like it....
    
    	In one scene, Bruce Willis' character is seen loading umpteen
    magazines for his twin .45s. The thing I'd like to know is, how do they
    carry that many mags around in their suit without weighing a ton. 
    
    ed
52.5703CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayWed Mar 19 1997 15:3714
>The end. It's as though winning with the plane still in the air just wasn't
>enough for Hollywood. So they tacked on the final drama, totally unrelated to
>the rest of the film, poured on the extrememly non-credible idiocy, and it
>wound up looking like just another Kurt Russell vanity trip.



wait a second..you don't find it credible that a light plane student pilot
(with no co-pilot) put a 747 down on a small runway??



Jim
52.5704CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayWed Mar 19 1997 15:3811
    
>    	In one scene, Bruce Willis' character is seen loading umpteen
>    magazines for his twin .45s. The thing I'd like to know is, how do they
>    carry that many mags around in their suit without weighing a ton. 
    
 
 they use the Reader's Digest versions..shorter articles.



 hth
52.5705SMURF::WALTERSWed Mar 19 1997 15:401
    It's a plastic gun from his kindergarten days.
52.5706Most of them probably selling real estateTLE::RALTOSuffering P/N writer's blockWed Mar 19 1997 15:409
    Hmmm, Kurt Russell, former child actor ("The Travels of Jamie
    McPheeters" from the early 1960's for example) who made it fairly
    big and is still doing quite well today.
    
    Any others?  Robert Blake ("Our Gang", aka "Little Rascals").
    Not too many... being a child actor seems to be hazardous to
    one's later career.
    
    Chris
52.5707SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerWed Mar 19 1997 15:424
    re: .5706
    
    Ron Howard.
    
52.5708SMURF::WALTERSWed Mar 19 1997 15:421
    Roddy MacDowell, Liz Taylor?
52.5709SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Mar 19 1997 15:446
    
    	I don't think Kurt Russell is cute, either.
    
    	Then again, no one asked me.
    
    
52.5710NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Mar 19 1997 15:503
Peter Graves was a child actor.  He was in that movie with Robert Mitchum
as the evil preacher who had LOVE and HATE tattooed on his knuckles.
Lillian Gish was also in it.
52.5711CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Mar 19 1997 15:501
    Cape Fear
52.5712SMURF::WALTERSWed Mar 19 1997 15:533
    Macauly Culkin was a child actor.  But I just heard that he sued his
    parents and cut them off from his money.  So I guess he's all growed
    up now.
52.5713DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Mar 19 1997 15:547
> wait a second..you don't find it credible that a light plane student pilot
> (with no co-pilot) put a 747 down on a small runway??

Actually, that part didn't bother me. While I have heard/read numerous
accounts of fairly skilled private pilots getting into the big 7x7 simulators
and crashing the do-do out of them, I realized that it was Kurt at the 
wheel, so he was able to cute the 747 into obedience. :-}
52.5714BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapWed Mar 19 1997 15:561
Sounds like fun (crashing the do-do out of a 7x7 simulator)
52.5715DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Wed Mar 19 1997 16:0014
> Peter Graves was a child actor.  He was in that movie with Robert Mitchum
> as the evil preacher who had LOVE and HATE tattooed on his knuckles.
> Lillian Gish was also in it.

Night of the Hunter. One of the greats, Charles Laughton's "one and only
fling at directing" (Maltin).

But Peter Graves was not a child in that one. He was the father/bank robber.

re: LOVE and HATE - Mitchum does that monologue about the two tattoos, and
the "Radio Rajim" character does exactly the same thing in "Do The Right
Thing". Did Spike Lee copy Night of the Hunter, or does that bit come from
somewhere else, e.g., the bible?
52.5716CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayWed Mar 19 1997 16:0417
>Actually, that part didn't bother me. While I have heard/read numerous
>accounts of fairly skilled private pilots getting into the big 7x7 simulators
>and crashing the do-do out of them, I realized that it was Kurt at the 
>wheel, so he was able to cute the 747 into obedience. :-}



 I read an article not too long ago about the liklihood of a single engine
 light aircraft pilot being able to take over control of a multi engined
 jet aircraft in the event of the pilot's incapaciation..(phew..long sentence)..
 Highly unlikely when one tosses in the different speed at which things happen,
 differences in radios, autopilots, etc..nonetheless, I'd love to spend some
 time in a 7x7 simulator.


 Jim
52.5717BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapWed Mar 19 1997 16:077
Differences in height from cockpit to runway (important when estimating
touch-downs).  Differences in fuel management, wing management, engine
management (engine response, for that matter).

I think this is a good basic rule of thumb:  If you're on a plane where the
pilot and co-pilot ate the fish, and some cessna 152 pilot's decided to
land the thing, you are (in technical parlance) hosed.
52.5718CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayWed Mar 19 1997 16:1111

 Heck, just playing around on MS flight simulator and going from Cessna to
 a Jet aircraft is quite an adventure..if my cat jumps on my lap during an
 approach in a Gulfstream IV, I'm doomed (unless I can hit the pause key
 quick enough, a feature lacking in the real thing of course).  In the 172
 I have a pretty good chance of dealing with the cat and the rapidly approaching
 runway.


 Jim
52.5719SMURF::WALTERSWed Mar 19 1997 16:171
    Deploy the cat flaps, Cap'n Jim.
52.5720BARSTR::JANDROWWed Mar 19 1997 16:534
    
    no one asked me either, but i think kurt russell is a cutie, too. 
    
    
52.5721NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Mar 19 1997 17:086
Peter Graves was born in 1926.  He's the brother of James Arness.
Night of the Hunter was made in 1955.  I think the kid was played by one
Billy Chapin.

According to http://us.imdb.com/cache/title-exact/67673
Night of the Hunter was "referenced in" Do the Right Thing.
52.5722SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Mar 19 1997 17:106
    
    	re .5750
    
    	So, it's two for, two agin.
    
    
52.5723NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Mar 19 1997 17:138
>         <<< Note 52.5722 by SMARTT::JENNISON "And baby makes five" >>>
>
>    
>    	re .5750
>    
>    	So, it's two for, two agin.

A veritable Jeanne Dixon.
52.5724ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 19 1997 17:392
    
    hope not. she's rather dead.
52.5725junk mailCSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayWed Mar 19 1997 17:427

 I got email in AOL a couple days ago from someone named Jeane Dixon.



 Jim
52.5726ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteWed Mar 19 1997 17:462
    
    she's dead, I tell you, dead.
52.5727BIGHOG::PERCIVALI'm the NRA,USPSA/IPSC,NROI-ROWed Mar 19 1997 20:435
   <<< Note 52.5725 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Give the world a smile each day" >>>

	She's dead, Jim.

Jim
52.5728ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteThu Mar 20 1997 11:572
    
    <---- Hey, look, I tried telling him, he just won't face facts.
52.5729network difficulties...GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersThu Mar 20 1997 11:596
  Which brings up a point about Exchange.  If either the sender or
 receiver dies of old age during the protocol, can the messagingh system
 adjust without hanging ?

  bb
52.5730POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorThu Mar 20 1997 13:003
    I saw "The final last kiss ever" or some such title staring Gena Davis.
    It was a really good "action" flick. Samuel Jackson has many priceless
    lines.
52.5731continue dyingPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 20 1997 13:155
>     <<< Note 52.5730 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "Patented Problem Generator" >>>

	see .5677

52.5732POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorThu Mar 20 1997 13:387
    oy!
    
    Well, you were spot on!
    
    8)
    
    
52.5733That's what chefs do.CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Mar 20 1997 14:165
    I also rented The Long Kiss Goodbye last night.  I enjoyed it quite a
    bit too.  A good finale for the troika of action rentals this week. 
    Ditto Di's sentiments.
    
    Brian  
52.5734SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveThu Mar 20 1997 14:205
    
    	How on earth does anyone have time to watch a
    	two-hour movie on a weeknight ?
    
    
52.5735POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorThu Mar 20 1997 14:231
    Cuts into my drinking time, that's for sure.
52.5736PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 20 1997 14:255
>                           -< That's what chefs do. >-

	;>  yes, that was very funny.


52.5737PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BThu Mar 20 1997 14:275
  .5734  not all of us are "married with children".



52.5738POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorThu Mar 20 1997 14:274
    
    I liked the "what are you, William Shatner or something?"
    
    And I liked it when the kid peed his pants.
52.5739Close Ups - Nothing But Close Ups - From Now On....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Mar 24 1997 14:3216
    Wasn't there a good review in here about _Up_Close_and_Personal_?
    
    Michele.
    Robert.  Michele.
    Michele.  Robert.
    Robert.  Michele.
    Michele.  Robert.
    ...
    Robert.  Michele.
    Michele.  Robert.
    Robert.  Michele.
    Michele.  Robert.
    Robert.  Michele.
    Michele.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5740LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayMon Mar 24 1997 14:343
    .5739
    
    yes.  hare binder liked it.
52.5741Michelle PfeifferPERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Mar 24 1997 16:565
|   yes.  hare binder liked it.
    
    Doubtful he wrote much about "Michele."
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5742ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteMon Mar 24 1997 17:094
    
    saw Milk Money last night on free tv. i could have swore that the
    promos kept saying Michelle Pfeiffer, when it was really meg Ryan.
    Ms Ryan is one beautiful woman.
52.5743SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveMon Mar 24 1997 17:244
    
    	<guffaw>
    
    
52.5744Neither Pfeiffer nor RyanMPGS::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketMon Mar 24 1997 17:318
    .5742>  saw Milk Money last night on free tv. i could have swore that
    the
        promos kept saying Michelle Pfeiffer, when it was really meg Ryan.
    
    You got your money's worth on that free tv.  Melanie Griffith, I
    believe, starred in Milk Money!
    
    Leslie
52.5745ACISS1::BATTISKansas Jayhawks-Toto's favoriteMon Mar 24 1997 17:426
    
    leslie, you are right. It was Melanie Griffith, not Meg Ryan. I'm
    confusing my blondes. She was good in it. i liked it, though it was
    corny. Ed Harris was funny, thinking she was a math tutor.
    
    
52.5746I know I shouldn't but I liked it, I really liked it....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Mar 24 1997 17:5215
    But are any of them from Columbia?         
    
    Which brings us to _Everybody Says I Love You_.  (No it doesn't, but
    somebody might give style demerits if there's not a segue here.)
    
    How in the world did Woody Allen *not* know that Goldie Hawn could
    sing?
    
    Favorite scene:
    
    Spoiler
    
    I'm Chiquita Banana and I'm here to say....
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5747MPGS::WOOLNERYour dinner is in the supermarketMon Mar 24 1997 18:0315
    Mark,
    
    I avoided "Milk Money" last night because I had curdled memories :-)
    from when it came out on video.  My then-10?-year-old daughter came home 
    from a sleep-over reporting that the hostess-mom had rented "Milk Money" 
    for the girls to watch!  I'm sure it was relatively tame, but I thought
    it was a lapse in judgment on the mom's part.  Luckily Alex (daughter) 
    thought it was "dumb and boring" and left the TV room to do something else.
    
    OTOH, I supppose I could be faulted for taking Alex (now 12) to see "Sling
    Blade" last night (didn't think to look at the rating til we were
    leaving the theater: R), but it sparked a great conversation on the way
    home, and we hope Billy Bob Thornton gets at least one Oscar tonight.
    
    Leslie
52.5748SALEM::DODAResignation SupermanMon Mar 24 1997 18:138
Wanted to see Smilla's Sense of Snow last Friday night, but 
couldn't find it at any theatre in the area. Settled for "Liar 
Liar". As Jim Carrey movies go, it was good. Good meaning that 
you could sit through the entire movie.

Then again, if you like "The Jerky Boys", you'll love it.

daryll
52.5749LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayMon Mar 24 1997 18:182
    i don't think _smilla_ will make it to worcester,
    either.  fortunately, it's playing in austin.
52.5750SALEM::DODAResignation SupermanMon Mar 24 1997 18:281
Julia Ormond.....<sigh>
52.5751BUSY::SLABAn imagine burning in her mind ...Mon Mar 24 1997 18:295
    
    	RE: .5748
    
    	Hey, do I resemble that remark?
    
52.5752WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Mar 25 1997 09:172
    9 Oscars go to The English Patient. i guess i'll have to see it
    (really means my wife will force me at gun point).
52.5753A box of Kleenex might not be enoughCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Mar 25 1997 11:011
Bring a crying towel.
52.5754COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Mar 25 1997 11:0961
BEST PICTURE: "The English Patient."

ACTOR: Geoffrey Rush, "Shine."

ACTRESS: Frances McDormand, "Fargo."

SUPPORTING ACTOR: Cuba Gooding Jr., "Jerry Maguire."

SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Juliette Binoche, "The English Patient."

DIRECTOR: Anthony Minghella, "The English Patient."

FOREIGN FILM: "Kolya," Czech Republic.

SCREENPLAY (based on material previously produced or published): Billy Bob
Thornton, "Sling Blade"

SCREENPLAY (written directly for the screen): Ethan Coen & Joel Coen,
"Fargo."

ART DIRECTION: "The English Patient."

CINEMATOGRAPHY: "The English Patient."

SOUND: "The English Patient."

SOUND EFFECTS EDITING: "The Ghost and the Darkness."

ORIGINAL MUSICAL OR COMEDY SCORE: "Emma," Rachel Portman.

ORIGINAL DRAMATIC SCORE: "The English Patient," Gabriel Yared.

ORIGINAL SONG: "You Must Love Me" from "Evita," Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim
Rice.

COSTUME: "The English Patient."

DOCUMENTARY FEATURE: "When We Were Kings."

DOCUMENTARY (short subject): "Breathing Lessons: The Life and Work of Mark
O'Brien."

FILM EDITING: "The English Patient."

MAKEUP: "The Nutty Professor."

ANIMATED SHORT FILMS: "Quest."

LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM: "Dear Diary."

VISUAL EFFECTS: "Independence Day."

------

(Announced earlier:)

IRVING G. THALBERG MEMORIAL AWARD: Producer Saul Zaentz.

HONORARY AWARD: Choreographer Michael Kidd.

SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNICAL OSCAR: Imax Corp. for its large-format movies.
52.5755BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapTue Mar 25 1997 11:2212
I am certain that The English Patient is a wonderful movie.

I just wish that the Academy didn't have such a bias for "serious,
sensitive" movies that everyone just HAS to see to be socially acceptable.

Just once, I'd like to see a lighter hearted movie (or even a SciFi film)
get best film.

Hey, the last time I saw a Best Picture was Ghandi.  It was very nice. 
Nowadays, after I've done my two jobs, gone to school, seen my clients, and
had all my research crapped on by retired advisors, I'd just like to see
something that isn't about death and tragedy, that's all.
52.5756PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 25 1997 11:276
>FOREIGN FILM: "Kolya," Czech Republic.

	best acceptance speech, i thought.


52.5757LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayTue Mar 25 1997 11:271
    frances mcdormand.  aw geez, yah.
52.5758BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapTue Mar 25 1997 11:281
    You betcha!
52.5759ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyTue Mar 25 1997 11:293
    .5755
    
    I'm with you...
52.5760CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Mar 25 1997 11:527


 I'm proud to say that I didn't watch 1 minute of the Academy Awards show.


 Jim
52.5761WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue Mar 25 1997 11:541
    -1 ditto
52.5762SALEM::DODAResignation SupermanTue Mar 25 1997 11:555
Me either. Got a last minute invite to the Laurie Sargent CD 
release party at the Hard Rock Cafe. Laurie was the lead singer 
in a local 80's band, Face to Face.

daryll
52.5763COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Mar 25 1997 11:551
Cable went out here.
52.5764missed itGAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersTue Mar 25 1997 12:004
  I had to resort my socks and underwear.

  bb
52.5765BUSY::SLABBaroque: when you're out of MonetTue Mar 25 1997 12:278
    
    	RE: .5762
    
    	I saw her at Sir Morgan's Cove a few years ago, and she put on a
    	great show.
    
    	Ken Steinhardt's band opened for her.
    
52.5766CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Mar 25 1997 13:145
    I sawer some of it though the sound was off which made it more
    palatable.  Actually, what made it more palatable was sitting at the
    bar in The Harp with a black and tan in my fist and having the sound
    turned off.  The disco music they were playing in the backgorund made
    it slightly unpalatable though so on balance it was bland.   
52.5767BUSY::SLABBe gone - you have no powers hereTue Mar 25 1997 14:443
    
    	"Y-M-C-A!!"
    
52.5768POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 25 1997 14:463
    
    Uh-oh.
    
52.5769WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjTue Mar 25 1997 16:122
    I managed to avoid Hollywood's "we take ourselves so very, very
    seriously" lovefest as well.
52.5770BUSY::SLABBeware of geeks baring griftsTue Mar 25 1997 16:184
    
    	I played with my laptop and then watched "La Femme Nikita" and
    	then fell asleep right at 11:00.
    
52.5771SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveTue Mar 25 1997 16:214
    
    	Too easy.  I'm not falling for that one.
    
    
52.5772...which leaves me with a score of -10TLE::RALTOGore, remember to pick up the checkTue Mar 25 1997 16:227
    I award myself +10 points for missing the Academy Awards show,
    but then I must penalize myself -20 points for idly watching one
    of those tacky followup shows where two women commentators on the
    E! channel were tearing apart the "bad hair days" of most of the
    female attendees.
    
    Chris
52.5773BUSY::SLABBeware of geeks baring griftsTue Mar 25 1997 16:315
    
    	RE: .5771
    
    	I certainly hope so/not.
    
52.5774DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Mar 25 1997 16:443
So were the song n'dance show numbers as fine and tasteful (and relevant)
as usual?
52.5775exampleSMURF::PBECKWho put the bop in the hale-de-bop-de-bop?Tue Mar 25 1997 16:484
    Well ... Michael Flatley happened to be in town, so they
    gratuitously tossed his egomaniacal rip-off of Riverdance (his is
    "Lord Of The Dance") into one presentation for which there was
    absolutely zero relevance.
52.5776GAVEL::JANDROWTue Mar 25 1997 16:498
    
    i was wondering that myself.  i had no clue as to why they had him and
    the group dance on stage, in front of screens that people were supposed
    to be watching.
    
    nevertheless, i still find that dancing cool to watch...
    
    
52.5777CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Mar 25 1997 17:1610


 I liked that dancing the first time I saw it..I could live the rest of my
 life without seeing any more of it and be quite happy, thank you.  Good
 grief..that stuff has replaced Yanni for "most frequently played begathon
 program".


 Jim
52.5778WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjTue Mar 25 1997 17:194
    And for very good reason, too. Like Yanni, it is favored by female
    viewers. And if I recall correctly, the number of female viewers that
    contribute is greater than the number of male viewers that contribute.
    They are targeting an audience; it's that simple.
52.5779CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Mar 25 1997 17:204

 hmmm...same reason John Tesh was the TV guy during the Olympics gymnastics
 coverage?
52.5780WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjTue Mar 25 1997 17:211
    you're catching on.
52.5781POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 25 1997 17:233
    
    Because women are so shallow they only care about looks?  Am I right?
    
52.5782BUSY::SLABBlack No. 1Tue Mar 25 1997 17:236
    
    	RE: .5778
    
    	The females apparently have no marketable skills, so they're forced
    	to donate money instead of time.
    
52.5783is there a "green monster" behind you?WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjTue Mar 25 1997 17:313
    >Because women are so shallow they only care about looks?  Am I right?
    
    No. Where's that coming from? 
52.57848^)POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 25 1997 17:336
    
    Just checking!
    
    Oh, oh, maybe it's height, not looks!  Is that it?
    
    
52.5785BUSY::SLABBlack No. 1Tue Mar 25 1997 17:355
    
    	RE: .5784
    
    	No, size doesn't matter, right?
    
52.5786WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjTue Mar 25 1997 17:354
    I dunno. Are these guys tall?
    
    Personally, I think it's a matter of what the target audience finds
    entertaining. YMMV.
52.5787WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjTue Mar 25 1997 17:353
    >	No, size doesn't matter, right?
    
     Are they still telling you that before they never call you again?
52.5788NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Mar 25 1997 17:371
Tell it to Edward Hendrix Jr.
52.5789PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 25 1997 17:385
  Deb!  It's not looks.  Women only care about height - get it
  straight.  Wisniewski said so, so it must be true.


52.5790LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayTue Mar 25 1997 17:401
    i thought women only cared about money?
52.5791SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveTue Mar 25 1997 17:438
    
    	I only watch Yanni because Linda Evans likes him,
    	and I always wanted to be just like Krystal Carrington.
    
    	Then, when my mind is numbed (more numbed, doc?), I
    	call PBS and give them my credit card number.
    
    
52.5792PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 25 1997 17:434
  .5790  oh yeah...oh...it gets so confusing.  <sobbing>


52.5793wanted : clue, by guy...GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersTue Mar 25 1997 17:467

 but, but, but...

  Yanni is utter drivel  <splutter>

  bb
52.5794PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 25 1997 17:576
>  Yanni is utter drivel  <splutter>

	that's for damn sure.  


52.5795WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Tue Mar 25 1997 17:584
    The mystery of Yanni and Tesh is how come they play to seemingly full
    houses?
    
    
52.5796CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Mar 25 1997 17:593

 prolly all women in attendance.
52.5797TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeTue Mar 25 1997 18:0214
    Why would people take "pride" in the fact that they didn't watch the
    Academy Awards?  I find that a strange reaction.  Like it was a really
    difficult decision, but in spite of everything, they managed to resist.
    
    Myself.... I guess I should be "ashamed" because I did watch most of
    the Awards and even noticed once or twice that somebody was wearing a
    nice dress.
    
    Good moment - Cuba Gooding Jr's speech
    Great moment - the opening "skit" where Billy Crystal was digitally
    inserted into scenes from the Best Picture nominees followed by another
    of his Oscar Oscar songs.
    
    
52.5798PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 25 1997 18:1113
  .5797  I normally avoid it, but this year I watched the whole
	 flippin' thing, except for some of the musical numbers.
	 I don't know what came over me.  I may have to do penance
	 later or something.

>    Great moment - the opening "skit" where Billy Crystal was digitally
>    inserted into scenes...

	 Yeah, some of that was purty funny.



52.5799CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Mar 25 1997 18:149

 Of course, I wasn't serious when I said I was "proud"..had nothing to do 
 with pride, or anything else, other than the fact I could care less about
 that stuff (or any awards show for that matter) and the hullabaloo that goes
 along with it.


 Jim
52.5800DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Mar 25 1997 18:488
    
    
    	I watched it cuz I didn't see much else in the TV Guide that
    	looked very interesting and I didn't feel like doing anything
    	constructive, so.........  I liked seeing someone so genuinely
    	grateful and excited about getting an unexpected award (Cuba
    	Gooding Jr.).
    
52.5801CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Mar 25 1997 18:526

  What?  There was a COPS marathon on!


 Jim (who missed it)
52.5802BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Tue Mar 25 1997 18:532
No Cops, but there was a WWII documentary on PBS  :-)
52.5803CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Mar 25 1997 20:057
    >>Myself.... I guess I should be "ashamed" because I did watch most of
    >>the Awards and even noticed once or twice that somebody was wearing
    >>a nice dress.
    
    Yyou should most definitely feel ashamed, maybe even try a 12 step
    program or something.  All is not lost though.  We'll still like you.
    :-)
52.5804TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeTue Mar 25 1997 20:121
    (sigh of relief)
52.5805;>PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 25 1997 20:146
  .5804  yes, this must be most gratifying, as Canadians seem to have
	 such a high regard for Americans.  hoho.



52.5806SALEM::DODAResignation SupermanTue Mar 25 1997 20:216
I didn't watch it because I was out. Had I been in, I would've 
found something else to do rather than watch. I think it's probably 
because I could care less but let me examine that further and 
I'll get back to all of you ok?

daryll
52.58078^)POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 25 1997 20:223
    
    We'll wait with baded breathe.
    
52.5808BaitedSALEM::DODAResignation SupermanTue Mar 25 1997 20:281
52.5809CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Mar 25 1997 20:311
    No, I think it's actually W-H-O-O-S-H. 
52.5810whoosh indeedPENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 25 1997 20:323
  Oh dear.

52.5811POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 25 1997 20:333
    
    Most whooshiest.
    
52.5812PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 25 1997 20:344
  very high whooshosity level.


52.5813Saw A Little Bit...YIELD::BARBIERITue Mar 25 1997 20:366
      I watched part of it.  Boy, did that woman who won best supporting
      actress have a far out dress or what???  Man, that collar almost
      looked like a small cape or something.  Seemed like a nice woman
      though.
    
      I can't stay up for the big last 4...
52.5814SALEM::DODAResignation SupermanTue Mar 25 1997 20:361
mea culpa.
52.5815PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Mar 25 1997 20:374
   .5813  she looked like she had just come back from sucking the
	  blood out of someone's neck.

52.5816YupperYIELD::BARBIERITue Mar 25 1997 20:552
      Yeah, I think you're right.  We were just looking at a big
      fat bloodstain!!!
52.5817POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Tue Mar 25 1997 21:003
    
    Who IS this poor woman?
    
52.5818TROOA::BUTKOVICHturn and face the strangeTue Mar 25 1997 22:074
    Juliette Binoche.... she's French so maybe that's just something
    "styling" that we don't know about on this side of the ocean.
    
    
52.5819APACHE::KEITHDr. DeuceWed Mar 26 1997 10:016
    She was the nurse in "The English Patient"
    
    Hey, nobody picked on Celine Dion for her panties this time. She wasn't
    wearing any I guess.
    
    Steve
52.5820ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ex-championWed Mar 26 1997 11:303
    
    I thought Madonna did a good job on her song. I liked it, cut outfit
    too.
52.5821PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 26 1997 11:324
   .5820  I thought she was quite mediocre.  Cut outfit and all.


52.5822SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Mar 26 1997 12:065
    	
    	And if that was the best original song for a movie,
    	the other nominated songs must have been quite scary.
    
    
52.5823POWDML::HANGGELIBecause I Can.Wed Mar 26 1997 12:143
    
    Don't you know, ALW can do no wrong.
    
52.5825BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Mar 26 1997 12:163

	I think that was one of her all time best songs! 
52.5826SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Mar 26 1997 12:184
    
    	Where's the damning with faint praise note ?
    
    
52.5827ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyWed Mar 26 1997 12:1928
    I thought she was less than mediocre (Madonna), personally.  Her dress was 
    nice, though (which was a surprise).
    
    Yes, I watched part of the Oscars - not because I give a hoot, but
    because I couldn't escape it, so best to make the best of it (I was
    invited to an "Oscar Party" by a friend, and thought it would show bad
    manners if I didn't show up for at least an hour or so to say 'hi').
    
    It was definitely the night of ugly hair.  Otherwise attractive women
    doing their best to look as butch as possible.  Amazing.  Is this the
    best the hollywood hair artists can come up with?
    
    I must admit that one of the presentators I saw (some blonde woman I
    didn't recognize) didn't have bad hair... or bad anything else, for
    that matter.  Very attractive lady... even had an attractive dress on. 
    Who would have thought that possible at the Oscars? 8^)
    
    Not that I am the fashion king or anything, but some of the outfits
    were a bit much, and the hair WAS ugly, for the most part (Winnona
    Rider looked like a boy in an ugly dress... she looks much nicer with long
    hair, IMO).
    
    I only saw the first half of the show, though, so I may have missed a
    bit.  When I got home, I watched something else.  Billy Crystal's
    opening act was pretty funny, I must admit.
    
    
    -steve
52.5828ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ex-championWed Mar 26 1997 12:242
    
    i liked Madonna's performance, don't care if anyone else did or not.
52.5829BUSY::SLABConsume feces and expireWed Mar 26 1997 12:417
    
    	I like Madonna's music.
    
    	It's got a good beat, and you can dance to it if you wish.
    
    	She's got an adequate voice.
    
52.5830SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Mar 26 1997 12:433
    
    	Who asked you ?
    
52.5831PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 26 1997 12:466
	But this wasn't Madonna's music - it was ALW's and Tim Rice's.
	A very unimpressive song, imo.  And she seemed nervous singing
	it - her voice was weak and unsteady.


52.5832GMASEC::KELLYA Tin Cup for a ChaliceWed Mar 26 1997 12:503
    what song did she sing?  i finally heard her version of
    -don't cry for me...-(dunno the proper title) and wasn't
    at all impressed...
52.5833PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 26 1997 13:023
  .5832  song was "You Must Love Me".

52.5834ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyWed Mar 26 1997 13:2410
    .5831
    
    I agree with lady Di.
    
    I couldn't help but smirk when she came to the "you must love me" part
    of the song.  While I realize that this was part of the proper lyrics
    to the song, I couldn't help but think it had a bit of extra meaning
    within the context of Modonna's problem with not getting an Oscar 
    nomination.  She seemed to put a bit of extra emphasis on these
    particular lyrics, too.  
52.5835PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Mar 26 1997 13:258
>           <<< Note 52.5834 by ACISS2::LEECH "Terminal Philosophy" >>>

>    I agree with lady Di.

	<fainting>



52.5836BUSY::SLABCrackerWed Mar 26 1997 13:3110
    
    	RE: .5830
    
    	Now my feelings are hurt.
    
    
    	RE: .5831
    
    	If she was singing it, it was partially her music.
    
52.5837Bring on the dance mix....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftWed Mar 26 1997 13:349
|   She seemed to put a bit of extra emphasis on these particular lyrics,
|   too.
    
    As she did when she originally recorded the song.  Frankly, the
    original song was the weakest in _Evita_.  But there isn't a best
    unoriginal song award anymore.  (At least she couldn't fairly be
    compared to Patti LuPone for "You Must Love Me".)
    
    								-mr. bill
52.5838ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyWed Mar 26 1997 16:143
    Well, I didn't know that.  It was the first time I heard her sing that
    song.  Just coincidence, I suppose; but not having heard the original
    recording, I couldn't help hearing it as a plea of some sort.  8^)
52.5839NETRIX::&quot;walters@ddraig.zk3.dec.com&quot;Mon Mar 31 1997 14:169
Finally got to see "Trainspotting" over the weekend.  Very, very good.
Not many movies out there these days that can make a viewer gag.  Not
to mention imparting a desire to resign from the human race.





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52.5840PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 31 1997 15:085
	"Basquiat" - another artsy flick, quirky and very well done.
	great Warhol portrayal by Bowie.  


52.5841BARSTR::JANDROWMon Mar 31 1997 15:175
    
    saw "jerry maguire" over the weekend.  i liked it.  the kid that played
    ray was priceless.  cuba gooding, jr was was great.  and it wasn't a
    typical tom cruise movie.  i give it two thumbs up.
    
52.5842SALEM::DODAPacing the cageMon Mar 31 1997 15:261
"Are you Hootie?"
52.5843SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveMon Mar 31 1997 16:009
    
    	Rented "The Long Kiss Goodnight" Saturday night.
    
    	I give it a 6 out of 10.  It kept my interest, but
    	I like a movie where I hope the "hero" wins.  In this
    	one, I couldn't have cared less.
    
    	Karen
    
52.5844BARSTR::JANDROWMon Mar 31 1997 16:035
    >> "Are you Hootie?"
    
    i like it at the end when he got "commercial", too... :>
    
    
52.5845ASGMKA::MARTINConcerto in 66 MovementsMon Mar 31 1997 16:091
    Saw "The Rock".  Interesting flick!
52.5846"The Rock"CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Mar 31 1997 16:104


 I didn't like it at all..
52.5847ASGMKA::MARTINConcerto in 66 MovementsMon Mar 31 1997 16:143
    Well, I found the chemical aspect of it interesting...the part when
    they are in the gas chamber trying to defuse the doll that looked like
    Chele.
52.5848PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 31 1997 16:197
>   <<< Note 52.5846 by CSLALL::HENDERSON "Give the world a smile each day" >>>

> I didn't like it at all..

	me neitha.


52.5849ASGMKA::MARTINConcerto in 66 MovementsMon Mar 31 1997 16:241
    What do you people know!
52.5850CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Mar 31 1997 16:283

 It was a real dumb movie...
52.5851BUSY::SLABAnd when one of us is gone ...Mon Mar 31 1997 16:334
    
    	Yeah, I much prefer movies in which wild animals eat other wild
    	animals out of necessity.
    
52.5852WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Mar 31 1997 17:091
    Primal Fear... i'm really not sure how i felt about this movie.
52.5853ABACUS::CURRANMon Mar 31 1997 17:128
    -1 saw it for the second time, still not sure how I felt about it. It
    definately had me going the first time I saw it. I don't know whether
    to hate richard gere for being so gunn ho about fighting for justice
    and blinding himself or if I liked him for seeing the good and the
    innocent before assuming guilt. 
    
    
    ???
52.5854.5852PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 31 1997 17:133
  what did Roy think?

52.5855WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Mar 31 1997 17:221
    most of the movie and ending were easily predictable.
52.5856LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayMon Mar 31 1997 17:279
    smilla's sense of snow.  julia ormond was quite
    good as smilla.  however, the movie falls apart
    a third of the way in.  too much territory to 
    cover.  too much material in the book to cover in
    a movie, maybe.  so they pick and choose the
    scenes to include and then they start changing 
    the plot and the whole thing becomes a mishmash.
    
    the opening scene is spectacular.
52.5857WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Mar 31 1997 17:283
    WTF is it about? With a name like "smilla's sense of snow" I haven't
    the foggiest notion of whether it would be marginally interesting,
    utterly fascinating, or snooze material.
52.5858SALEM::DODAPacing the cageMon Mar 31 1997 17:297
I think I'll see it anyway. Ormond is stunning and Byrne was 
excellent in "The Usual Suspects".

Looks like I'll have to drive some to find a theatre that's 
playing it.

daryll
52.5859PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BMon Mar 31 1997 17:314
   .5857  how could it be snooze material with Byrne in it?  ouch.


52.5860ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ex-championMon Mar 31 1997 17:363
    
    oph, does this mean you take back what you said about Julia Ormond
    playing smilla?
52.5861LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayMon Mar 31 1997 18:086
    .5857
    
    /WTF is it about?
    
    really, mark.  it's a moider mystery and more!
    i recommended it to you ages ago.
52.5862LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayMon Mar 31 1997 18:163
    .5860
    
    i have nothing to take back, you scamp.  
52.5863ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ex-championMon Mar 31 1997 18:542
    
    great. now i'm a scamp. muppet man gets private lessons. what next?
52.5864ACISS1::BATTISSoapbox NCAA ex-championMon Mar 31 1997 18:563
    
    what is this fascination with the movie "trainspotting"? sounds like,
    totally stupid.
52.5865CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Mar 31 1997 18:588

 Beats me...my son wanted me to take him to see it..after reading a couple
 things about it I said "nope".



 Jim
52.5866BUSY::SLABAs you wishMon Mar 31 1997 19:376
    
    	First you throw his CD's away, and now you refuse to take him to
    	movies he wants to see.
    
    	What a meanie you are.
    
52.5867FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Mar 31 1997 23:266
    
    
    	How old is your son, Jim? The movie is a bit "loose"...for lack of
    a more fitting word.
    
    
52.5868CSC32::M_EVANSbe the villageMon Mar 31 1997 23:299
    Jim,
    
    
    the movie probably does more for the anti-drug movement than several
    months of D.A.R.E. classes could ever do.  Seeing a junkie hard up
    enough to dive into an excrement-filled toilet to get his fix is enough
    to put anyone off the idea of harder core drugs.  
    
    meg
52.5869CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayTue Apr 01 1997 02:5515
    
    
>    	How old is your son, Jim? The movie is a bit "loose"...for lack of
>    a more fitting word.
    
 

 14.  After reading the reviews, I knew it was a movie that I didn't 
 want to see, and certainly not one I'd take him to see.



 Jim   

52.5870FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Apr 01 1997 12:425
    
    
    	Yeah, the language is a bit "rough" for 14. 
    
    
52.5871NETRIX::&quot;walters@ddraig.zk3.dec.com&quot;Tue Apr 01 1997 15:4056
Well, the lavvy scene is a bit of a put off, but then later they
describe H as "better than the best sex". it sends a very ambivalent
message. But, I think the point here is this movie doesn't really
have such messages.  At least not one intended to reinforce our
middle class norms.

Hollywood movies have messages.  Messages about the triumph of good
over evil, loyalty, honour - all that crap that we insulated middle
classes like to pretend is real.  (Ha! And what kind of person do
we elect?).  The reason that this movie works so well is because
we're so conditioned to expect messages in our media that we're
disturbed when we don't get them.

Don't think that Rent gets away with the cash and clean up his act.
He's going to blow it all on horse and die of aids in some
god-forsaken chite-hole in the projects.  He doesn't have the
willpower to clean up his act - "Just one last hit before..."

'Trainspotting' is about reality on a different plane.  There isn't
any message, forlorn hope.  It's about the bitter anger and anomie
of a bunch of people who are unable to respond to a culture and
identity that is being forced on them while simultaneously denying
them the means to participate. (Listen closely to the opening and
closing words about the acquisition of chattels.)  They share few
ideals, they have no loyalty to their "so-called mates".  They
_decide_ to go back on heroin, because a drug-free life is too boring
to take.

The language is foul because thet's how these people speak.  It's
the Scottish version of Ebonics.  In this movie, it's like when you
first listen to Shakespere - you have to listen hard for the poetry,
but it is in there.  I can't wait until ABC have a cleaned up version
for prime-time television:

 "Och, ye're a BEEPING stupid BEEP smack-heid BEEP get, Rent."
 "Wha'd ye BEEP know aboot it yer BEEPING BEEP BEEP-hole?"
 "Gis a BEEPING hit, BEEP ya?"
 "BEEP you."
 "Aye, and BEEP you too, ya BEEPING BEEP.

(Along with a different ending that shows them all going off to
college and becoming heart surgeons.)

In the meantime, Kids should not see this movie because it's not
an anti-drug movie. They should not see it because it's an anti-hero
movie or an anti-society movie, or a foul-mouthed movie.  They should
not see it because it's about the stark, naked realities of modern
post-industrial social life, and there's pleanty of time for kids to
worry about that crap later.  Go play baseball or summat, it's a nice
day.





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52.5872DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Apr 01 1997 15:546
>  I can't wait until ABC have a cleaned up version
> for prime-time television:

Maybe they will do it like Repo Man, ala:
"Flip you, gall dang melon farmer."
52.5873PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Apr 01 1997 15:545
  along with the non-hike scene, i liked the
  job interview.


52.5874SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Apr 02 1997 13:0111
    
    	re .5856
    
    	Oph, where did you see it ?
    
    	I'm about 3/4 of the way through the book, and I find myself
    	wondering how a movie would interpret some of the scenes.
    
    	What character does Gabriel Byrne play ?
    
    
52.5875PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Apr 02 1997 13:084
  .5874  i'd be disappointed if he wasn't the mechanic.


52.5876LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayWed Apr 02 1997 13:4013
    .5874
    
    karen, i sawer it in austin, of all places.  gabriel
    byrne is the mechanic, di.  and a fine one at that, 
    he's very good with his hands.  ooh er.
    
    karen, there are very few scenes right outta the book...
    there's one with smilla and benja that's well, let's
    say smilla convinces benja baby to leave her alone. ;-)
    and there are some very touching scenes with ol' smilla
    and isaiah.
    
    
52.5877just wonderin'BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapWed Apr 02 1997 13:411
Who/What/Why/When/Where/How is a "smilla"?
52.5878CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsWed Apr 02 1997 13:596
    One to miss.  The Island of Dr. Moreau.  Eesh.  I'm feel violated after
    having watched that one.  
    
    One not too bad.  Things to do in Denver when you're dead.  Another one
    of those where you have to pull for the bad guys because they are
    really good guys, sort of.  
52.5879LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayWed Apr 02 1997 14:106
    .5877
    
    /Who/What/Why/When/Where/How is a "smilla"?
    
    it's a shortened version of her proper greenlandic
    name.
52.5880WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Apr 02 1997 14:152
    I had this mental image of the Rev Jessuh Jackson saying "Smilla the
    chinchilla" :-)
52.5881BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapWed Apr 02 1997 14:279
    .5879:
    
    Next question:
    
    Who is this she, with her proper greenlandic name?  (I'm clueless
    enough to admit that I have no idea who you all are talking about,
    which is something that I communicated inadequately in .5877)
    
    ad thanks vance
52.5882PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Apr 02 1997 14:344
>               <<< Note 52.5881 by BULEAN::BANKS "Saturn Sap" >>>

	222.971 might help.

52.5883BULEAN::BANKSSaturn SapWed Apr 02 1997 14:371
    tyvm
52.5884SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Apr 02 1997 14:4611
    
    	I assumed he played the mechanic, but isn't he a bit
    	short ?  He's 6' 4" in the book.  Byrne doesn't seem
    	that tall.
    
    	Oph, the scene with Benja was exactly the type of scene
    	that had me thinking "Ha, I wonder if they'd do that in
    	the movie?!"
    
    	Karen
    
52.5885LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayWed Apr 02 1997 15:548
    .5884
    
    yeah.  my friends and i tried to come up with
    some actor who fit the bill physically - but hey -
    it ain't easy.  maybe a pre-TV John Lithgow?
    
    Richard Harris plays Tork (badly).  Robert Loggia
    plays Smilla's dad (fairly well).
52.5886PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Apr 02 1997 16:004
  .5885  Liam?


52.5887LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayWed Apr 02 1997 16:033
    .5886
    
    get thee to hollywood!  liam would be _perfect_.
52.5888SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Apr 02 1997 17:126
    
    	I was thinking Gerard Depardieu.
    
    	Liam would do nicely.
    
    
52.5889ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanWed Apr 02 1997 17:192
    
    Pierce Brosnan?
52.5890LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayWed Apr 02 1997 17:203
    .5889
    
    too pretty.
52.5891PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BWed Apr 02 1997 17:246
>    too pretty.

	aye.  not to mention "wimpy".


52.5892picky, picky...GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersWed Apr 02 1997 17:274
  well, not everybody can be schwarzenager...

  bb
52.5893SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveWed Apr 02 1997 17:356
    
    	OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH !
    
    	YES !!! Arnie.  He'd be wonderful, too ;-)
    
    
52.5894LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayWed Apr 02 1997 17:484
    
    .5893
    
    i dunno.  this part required some acting ability. ;-)
52.5895ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanWed Apr 02 1997 18:104
    
    .5894
    
    hey, arnie can act.
52.5896ACISS1::SCHELTERThu Apr 03 1997 13:334
    <-- Riiiiiiiight, and monkeys are going to fly out my butt.
    
    
    Mike
52.5897NETRIX::&quot;walters@ddraig.zk3.dec.com&quot;Thu Apr 03 1997 13:499
Fly, my pretties. Fly! Ahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaaaaa!






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52.5898And a little guy named Igor beside him applauding appreciativelyCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertThu Apr 03 1997 13:501
I can imagine Colin saying that every time he passes gas.
52.5899LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayThu Apr 03 1997 14:103
    
    thanks to him, i'll be silly all morning.
    his humor is contagious. 
52.5900CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Apr 03 1997 14:124
    Speaking of flying monkeys, there is a trail at Sunday River by the
    same name.  They call it a "gladed" area.  I called it a live fire
    exercise.  We had fun with the name anyway.  Thanks for letting me
    share.
52.5901ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanThu Apr 03 1997 14:262
    
    <--- brian, if it saves one life, it's well worth it. thanks.
52.5902SCASS1::BARBER_APsychobilly FreakoutWed Apr 09 1997 15:335
    I am happy to report that I finally saw Trainspotting.  It was pretty
    good, but I had a hard time understanding the dialect.  That Scottish
    accent is definitely strange.
    
    I'll have to see it again soon.
52.5903NPSS::MCSKEANEPea and ham!!! From a chicken??Wed Apr 09 1997 15:3910
    
    > <<< Note 52.5902 by SCASS1::BARBER_A "Psychobilly Freakout" >>>  
    
    >but I had a hard time understanding the dialect.  That Scottish
    >accent is definitely strange.
    
    Well, if you need anything translated into 'Murican, then give me a
    call!!!
    
    POL  :>>>>
52.5904LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayWed Apr 09 1997 15:392
    i found trainspotting tremendously depressing.
    
52.5905SCASS1::BARBER_APsychobilly FreakoutWed Apr 09 1997 15:4311
    .5903 I think I'll take you up on that.
    
    .5904 Depressing, yes.  Very much so.  I couldn't stand to watch
    certain parts of it.  Just felt too "close to home".  I've been
    surrounded by people like that before, it's really no fun.  I wanted to
    kill the girl who (you know) when she (you know) while her (you know) 
    was (you know!!)!!
    
    I don't want to spoil it for anyone!  
    
    8)
52.5906KERNEL::FREKESLike a thief in the nightWed Apr 09 1997 15:517
        This is a very good film. It does not glamorise drugs in anyway. And
    if you watch it enough times, you pick up on things you did not get the 1st
    time around. Quite a just ending. Even though he was a complete bastard
    to his mates, he still does the right thing. Excellent soundtrack. The
    music fitted the film so perfectly, it will be a while before we see a
    film like that again.
    
52.5907BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed Apr 09 1997 16:328

	I saw Howard Stearns movie this weekend. And I really liked it. I don't
like Howard at all, but this movie was great!



Glen
52.5908BUSY::SLABDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Wed Apr 09 1997 16:347
    
    	Glen, I think you lost this:
    
    	'
    
    	I'll trade you for that "e".
    
52.5909HOTLNE::BURTrude people ruleWed Apr 09 1997 18:579
trainspotting sucked the royal big one! and if'n anyone thinks my gak is too 
much, then by all means run screaming from the video rental store when someone 
suggest you watch trainspotting. thankfully i rented it on cheap nite and it 
wasn't even worth the buck-fifty i shelled out for it.  the jacket should tell 
you whetehr you want to see it and i should've listened to my inner voice 
saying: the jackets sucks, the movie will suck- now run and leave that damned 
thing on the shelf.

ogre.
52.5910EDSCLU::JAYAKUMARWed Apr 09 1997 19:072
	.. and the same goes to English Patient!  came out wondering whats so
Oscarry about this !
52.5911FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Apr 09 1997 19:136
    
    
    	I disliked Fargo myself. As a story, it's interesting. As a movie,
    it sucked....
    
    
52.5912LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayWed Apr 09 1997 19:161
    hey, mr sadin, caught your letter in saturday's T&G!
52.5913FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Apr 09 1997 19:184
    
    	what didja think?? :)
    
    
52.5914LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayWed Apr 09 1997 19:182
    well, you know.  i don't care for 'em.
    but the letter was well-written!
52.5915FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Apr 09 1997 19:205
    
    
    	that's all I need to know..:) thanks.
    
    
52.5916BUSY::SLABWanted: a life. Will pay top dollar.Sun Apr 13 1997 16:2427
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    	John Leguizamo, William Baldwin, Erika Eleniak [and others].
    
    	John is a pastry chef in a local bakery, and he is in love with
    	a waitress working across the street [not Erika].  She wants to
    	travel and see some of the world, but he's content staying where
    	he is ... also, he has no money to travel even if he wants to.
    
    	But, in order not to lose her, he tells her that he'll ask his
    	boss to make him a manager at the bakery so he can save the
    	money faster.  The day he's supposed to ask him, he finds out
    	that his boss apparently isn't making as much money as he'd like
    	to and would love for John to set a fire in the bakery to burn
    	it down so that the insurance money can be collected.  But John
    	says he won't/can't do it and makes the boss promise that he
    	won't do it either.
    
    	But it burns down that night anyways.
    
    	I don't want to give too much away, so I'll stop here.
    
    	I'd classify it as a "sort of black" romantic comedy, and it
    	was pretty good.
    
52.5917BUSY::SLABWanted: a life. Will pay top dollar.Sun Apr 13 1997 16:3820
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    	Andrew Dice/Clay, Roddy Piper, Shannon Tweed, Robert Davi.
    
    	Andrew is the leader of a gang of terrorists that takes control of
    	a hotel in which a beauty pageant is held, seizing several of the
    	contestants and holding them in the penthouse.  Roddy is one of
	his henchmen.
    
    	Shannon is Sharon Bell, a star of karate movies ["She's like Bruce
    	Lee, with boobs"] and either a contestant or the hostess [I missed
    	the first part] who is one of the hostages.
    
    	Robert Davi is some sort of special forces guy and a current body-
    	guard who's working with the police to get them out of there.
    
    	Typical shoot-em-up, explosive type of drama.  Not too bad.
    
52.5918Usual SuspectsYIELD::BARBIERISun Apr 13 1997 20:272
      Someone mentioned "The Usual Suspects" in here recently.  I saw it
      already and I'm ready to see it again.
52.5919SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveMon Apr 14 1997 13:0910
    	
    	Watched "Courage Under Fire" this weekend.
    
    	8/10, for sure.
    
    	Last weekend, we rented "The Fan".
    
    	Blurgh.  Give it a miss.  You'll thank me.
    
    
52.5920The SaintSHRCTR::PJOHNSONVaya con huevos.Mon Apr 14 1997 13:203
We saw The Saint Saturday evening. On a scale of 1 to 2, it was O.K.

Pete
52.5921DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Mon Apr 14 1997 16:1427
Saw "Seven" the other night. It was interestingly moody and atmospheric, and
I was looking forward to the surprise ending that I heard so much about. In
general, Brad Pitt seemed pretty good, and Kevin Spacey was very creepy, 
although Morgan Freeman seemed like he was sleepwalking through his part.

Spoilers ...
{
    I was more surprised about how predictable certain things were. I 
    swear, cops must not get out much and see movies. I guessed about 
    the photographer, having seen "The Mean Season". And having seen 
    "Barton Fink", the contents of the box were no surprise either.
}
End spoilers.

All in all, I thought it compared favorably with with "Reservoir Dogs", which 
I finally saw for the first time the night before. After all the hype I've
heard about "Dogs", the violence seemed just ruthlessly gratuitous and
unpleasant, without the intersting and non-violent entertainment payoffs in
"Pulp Fiction".

Best thing I've seen all week was the Jane Austin thing on Masterpiece Theatre,
"Persuasion" or "Perseverence" or some title like that. I thought it blew the
A&E "Pride and Prejudice" production away - less overtly commercial, with the
main characters much more appealing. Visually, I particularly liked the way 
they did the nitetime indoor lighting, with dim, orange light and zillions 
of candles - seemed realistic.
52.5922SCASS1::BARBER_APsychobilly FreakoutMon Apr 14 1997 16:203
    I saw Basketball Diaries this weekend.  It was really good...sort of
    along the lines of Trainspotting with the drug/herione addiction.  That
    Leonardo DeCaprio (sp?) is a real keeper.
52.5923BUSY::SLABA swift kick in the butt - $1Mon Apr 14 1997 16:494
    
    	And Juliette Lewis again shows us how versatile an actress she is
    	by playing a flaky bimbo.
    
52.5924agoraphiles ?GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersMon Apr 14 1997 17:005
  This past weekend, Americans spent in excess of $40 million going to
 the movies.  The surprise smash hit was "Anaconda".

  bb
52.5925SCASS1::BARBER_APsychobilly FreakoutMon Apr 14 1997 17:192
    Saw Richie Rich this weekend as well.  McCauly is such a cutie.  I
    loved the "Dad Locator".
52.5926ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanMon Apr 14 1997 17:222
    
    i love snakes, especially big ones.
52.5927POLAR::RICHARDSONDare to bareMon Apr 14 1997 17:311
    beware of anal cobras.
52.5928I have this from an expert Comedy Central viewer...GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersMon Apr 14 1997 17:316
  I didn't see it.  But a teenager I know, who can beat you easily at
 WarCraft or Tomb Raider, informs me that the computerized snake in
 Anaconda is ....  "cheesy".

  bb
52.5929POLAR::RICHARDSONDare to bareMon Apr 14 1997 17:331
    Since Jim is away I can ask this. Has anyone seen Liar Liar yet?
52.5930APACHE::KEITHDr. DeuceMon Apr 14 1997 17:367
    Last WE saw Liar Liar     
    
    Cute with laughs   
    
    Good Jim Carey vehicle
    
    Not for little un's
52.5931SCASS1::BARBER_APsychobilly FreakoutMon Apr 14 1997 17:485
    I have seen Liar Liar!!
    
    It's great.  Vintage Carrey.  I really associated with the ex-wife. 
    It's very touching, it made me cry in some parts.  (Of course I had a
    few beers in me...;)
52.5932BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteMon Apr 14 1997 17:505
    
    	Beer makes you upset, eh?
    
    	[Adds another item to "Don't try" list.]
    
52.5933SCASS1::BARBER_APsychobilly FreakoutMon Apr 14 1997 17:566
    It makes me more emotional.  I thought it did that for everyone?  
    
    You know, the inhibitions thing...
    
    My favorite part was in the courtroom when he couldn't tell a lie. 
    Very funny stuff.
52.5934HOTLNE::BURTrude people ruleMon Apr 14 1997 17:589
took the preteens to see Anaconda sat.  the place was packed and all the girls 
were screaming, but the movie itself was so-so. it had potential to have a good 
story, but somewhere's near the middle/end the budget must've got yanked. if 
snakes can move that fast, esp the big ones, we're screwed if they're population
expands too fast; you can definitely tell: yup- robot snake or yup- computer 
snake; never a- hey! real snake! [except for th young/regular size pythons] even
the attacking baby anaconds were hokey.  save your money, video-it.

ogre.
52.5935ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanMon Apr 14 1997 18:012
    
    anacondas can grow up to 35 feet in length.
52.5936BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteMon Apr 14 1997 18:088
    
    	RE: .5933
    
    	Oh, OK.  I guess I'll move it to the "Hey, maybe it will work"
    	list.
    
    	8^)
    
52.5937BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteMon Apr 14 1997 18:097
    
    	RE: Battis
    
    	35'?  Wow.  If they could only increase that by 4x but decrease
    	their diameter by 4x, they'd be all over you before you even knew
    	they were there.	

52.5938HOTLNE::BURTrude people ruleMon Apr 14 1997 18:5015
and, according to the opening of the movie, they are the only snake [maybe even
creature] that once they have captured and killed [or near killed] and 
swallowed, they will regurgitate the meal just to do it all over again. 

spoiler:


this, of course, was not a pretty picture and the only real gak seen in the 
movie.



i hope that ff worked.

ogre.
52.5939ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanMon Apr 14 1997 18:572
    
    so when someone calls you anaconda breath, this is not a good thing?
52.5940BUSY::SLABAfterbirth of a NationMon Apr 14 1997 19:133
    
    	Eating an anaconda is no better than licking someone's asp?
    
52.5941LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayMon Apr 14 1997 19:151
    beavis & butthead, watch out.
52.5942DeCaprioYIELD::BARBIERIMon Apr 14 1997 22:166
    re: .5922
    
    My daughters, ages 15 and 13, just LOVE Leonardo Dicaprio.  I 
    think he is a fine actor.
    
    						Tony
52.5943A Future Movie I'll Want To SeeYIELD::BARBIERIMon Apr 14 1997 22:2217
      By the way, I mentioned in the books topic about a book I
      wanted to reread called 'The Minds of Billy Milligan.'  Well,
      I read it (again) and I really wanted to know how Billy 
      Milligan is doing.
    
      Well, I web searched around and got some info by searching
      the author - Daniel Keyes (who wrote 'Flowers for Algernon').
      Anyway, he wrote a book published in Japan called 'The Milligan
      Wars' based on the ten years after the Minds of Billy Milligan
      time span.
    
      It also said there will be a movie coming out called 'The Crowded
      Room' which will be based on the book.  I guess a few actors 
      such as Johny Dep have asked to play the part of Billy.  I can't
      wait to see this movie (if it ever comes out).
    
    						Tony
52.5944BUSY::SLABAlways a Best Man, never a groomMon Apr 14 1997 22:374
    
    	Leonardo was pretty good in "The Quick and the Dead".  I never did
    	see that whole movie, but would like to.
    
52.5945BUSY::SLABAnd when one of us is gone ...Tue Apr 15 1997 11:417
    
	"Primal Fear"
    
    	I saw it this morning and thought it was excellent ... I never
    	figured out the ending, but I did catch "the hint" as soon as
    	Gere did.
    
52.5946ACISS1::BATTISFerzie fanTue Apr 15 1997 12:166
    
    shawn, he was faking his multiple personalities, at least in the book.
    haven't seen the movie yet. 
    
    "The Quick and the Dead" was not bad. Hackman steals the movie. Sharon
    Stone was just so-so. DiCaprio was good as the gunslinging kid.
52.5947PENUTS::DDESMAISONSperson BTue Apr 15 1997 13:586
>               <<< Note 52.5946 by ACISS1::BATTIS "Ferzie fan" >>>

  nice of you to give away the ending.  oh yes.


52.5948LANDO::OLIVER_Bgonna have to eventually anywayTue Apr 15 1997 14:514
    "rear window" with jimmy stewart and grace kelly.
    
    we were watching for hitchcock's cameo - my friend 
    spotted him first.  great flickeroo.
52.5949BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Apr 15 1997 17:276
| <<< Note 52.5942 by YIELD::BARBIERI >>>

| My daughters, ages 15 and 13, 

	You have daughters that old? Wow! It must be HLO or something...
everyone looks young here.
52.5950DEVO::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Apr 15 1997 17:315
    
    
    	It's just Digital.  I'm constantly amazed at how much
    	younger I think people are than their true age.
    
52.5951BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Apr 15 1997 17:384

	You're a babe.... you age well. Take someone like OJM.... he has aged
very very badly. :-)
52.5952fountain (youth) = DEC ?GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersTue Apr 15 1997 17:414
  yep, just call us dorian

  bb
52.5953DEVO::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Apr 15 1997 17:527
    
    
    	re: Glen
    
    
    	{smooch!}
    
52.5954CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsThu Apr 24 1997 15:215
    Went to see Grosse Pointe Blank last weekend.  Not bad.  Sort of a Pulp
    Fiction meets The Big Chill type of thing.  I found it to be pretty
    funny in spots.  The soundtrack was great.  
    
    Brian
52.5955SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveThu Apr 24 1997 15:247
    
    	Saw Sleepers this weekend.
    
    	Good movie, though it is a bit disturbing.  I'd still give
    	it an 8/10.
    
    
52.5956ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Apr 28 1997 13:375
    I was forced to watch "A Walk in the Clouds" Sat. night... it was
    surprisingly okay.  I thought it was quite predicatable, though.  I had
    the entire movie figured out after watching the first 15-20 minutes.  I
    was good enough to keep it to myself, though, and not spoil it for
    everyone else.  8^)  
52.5957TROOA::BUTKOVICHgirls just wanna have fudgeMon Apr 28 1997 15:0729
    It was a cornucopia of movies this weekend:
    
    Volcano -  story - 2/10,  Tommy Lee Jones  7/10, special effects 7/10
    I don't know why someone can't write a disaster movie with a good
    storyline.  I give TLJ marks just for being able to keep a straight
    face while he said some of his lines.  Anne Heiche was good in the
    feisty woman role.
    
    Breakdown - 8/10.  Good suspense film, especially because it was so
    believable.  Couple is driving across the country from MA to San Diego
    and have decided to take the scenic (read deserted) route.  Car
    breaks down and the couple separates. Wife goes with a trucker for help 
    while hubby stays with the car. That's the last he sees of her and none
    of the locals have seen her. Kurt was surprisingly wimpy (IMHO).  
    Good commercial for the Jeep Grand Cherokee.
    
    The Saint - 6.5/10.  Bit of a disappointment.  There were lots of
    incongruities in the plot so if that kind of stuff bugs you, you'll be
    picking them out for the whole movie.  Small example - at the beginning
    of the movie, there is a gathering of people who are singing what is
    supposed to be the Russian anthem - too bad they are singing the old
    USSR anthem that doesn't exist anymore.  There were other more blatent
    examples... and yet... I enjoyed the movie.  (that kind of stuff
    doesn't really bug me)  I thought Val was good but I don't think this
    is a role that is going to last more than this movie.   I had read that
    he didn't do Batman again because he thought Simon Templar would give
    him a "franchise role".  Whether that is true or not, I don't think the
    movie is going to be a big enough hit to automatically lead to a
    sequel.
52.5958ACISS1::BATTISEDS boundMon Apr 28 1997 15:522
    
    Anne Heiche is Ellen's new girlfriend.
52.5959BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Mon Apr 28 1997 15:533

	I heard that was false.
52.5960BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Mon Apr 28 1997 16:255
    
    	RE: .5956
    
    	Diane, you'd love this move since Keanu Reeves stars in it.
    
52.5961PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Mon Apr 28 1997 16:307
>     <<< Note 52.5960 by BUSY::SLAB "And one of us is left to carry on." >>>

	yes, i know it stars Keanu, and i've successfully avoided
	it so far.


52.5962ACISS1::BATTISEDS boundMon Apr 28 1997 16:425
    
    .5959
    
    Howard Stern was talking about them both this morning. She used to live
    with Steve Martin, now she's with Ellen. 
52.5963TROOA::BUTKOVICHgirls just wanna have fudgeMon Apr 28 1997 16:47146
    from the Mr. Showbiz site:
    Mr. Showbiz
                         Exclusive: Anne
                         + Ellen =
                         Trouble?
    
                         By Jeffrey Wells
    
                         A few weeks ago, Anne
                         Heche was just an up-
                         and-coming movie star
                         with the female lead
                         in the new earthquakes-and-eruptions
                         extravaganza Volcano. She got hotter when
                         news broke that she'd landed a headlining
                         role opposite Harrison Ford in the Ivan
                         Reitman film Six Days, Seven Nights. But
                         it wasn't until Heche--who was previously
                         romantically linked to funnyman Steve
                         Martin for two years--went public with her
                         love for funnywoman Ellen DeGeneres that
                         she became a media phenomenon. The talk
                         around Hollywood (and the world) about
                         Heche's loud exit from the closet has
                         raised questions about Six Days, Seven
                         Nights: namely, how will Heche's very
                         public lesbian relationship affect the
                         old-fashioned (heterosexual) romance that
                         Disney will release next year?
    
                         No one knows for sure, but everyone seems
                         to have an opinion. No Hollywood performer
                         has ever made this sort of noise about a
                         same-sex relationship. Ellen and Anne
                         showed up together at the VH1 Awards, and
                         at the April 15 Volcano premiere. And
                         Heche told People magazine (in the
                         just-out May 5 issue) that she and Ellen
                         "are very much in a relationship and we
                         are looking forward to a long future
                         together." The biggest splash should come
                         next Wednesday (April 30), when Heche will
                         appear on camera with DeGeneres on Oprah.
    
                         Insiders are whispering that the public
                         nature of Heche's affection doesn't sit
                         well with Harrison Ford and producer Ivan
                         Reitman. A well-positioned journalist says
                         that Ford "doesn't think it's too wise of
                         [Heche] to be doing this," the issue being
                         Heche's believability in a heterosexual
                         role. Representatives at Disney declined
                         comment, as did Ford's manager. A staffer
                         in Reitman's office says Heche's
                         confessions to the media "couldn't be
                         farther from [Reitman's] mind. All he said
                         was, 'I hope she mentions the movie.'"
    
                         A source close to the recent negotiations
                         between Heche and the Six Days crew says
                         that Reitman and co-producer Roger
                         Birnbaum (neither of whom returned calls
                         for this article) knew about Heche's
                         blooming relationship with DeGeneres, but
                         didn't expect it to become a media event.
                         But the Six Days team "certainly didn't
                         anticipate that this relationship thing
                         would be so high-flying," a production
                         executive at Sony claims. Another producer
                         agrees that "they didn't have a clue this
                         was coming."
    
                         It was rumored in early April that Heche
                         had been offered the female lead in Six
                         Days, Seven Nights, a comedy about the
                         unlikely South Pacific romance between a
                         fashion-magazine editor and a boozy pilot.
                         But the green light to cast Heche didn't
                         come in until "April 14 or 15," according
                         to an inside source, "when Harrison Ford
                         approved her." Heche and DeGeneres only
                         began to go public with their relationship
                         on April 15, the day they attended the
                         Volcano premiere together in Los Angeles.
                         Actually, Heche's deal to appear in the
                         film wasn't finalized at that time--and it
                         still isn't, says an inside source. "They
                         do not have signatures" on her Six Days
                         contract, the insider confided on
                         Thursday, April 24.
    
                         If the timing of the casting looks rushed,
                         it should. A source who attended the
                         Volcano premiere says he overheard an
                         agent say that "the story about her and
                         DeGeneres was about to break, and the word
                         [from her agents] was, 'Close this f---ing
                         deal.' They cannot close this f---ing deal
                         fast enough." 
    
                         Screenwriter Robert Towne (Chinatown),
                         whose 1982 film Personal Best was about
                         lesbian track runners, understands Ford's
                         rumored dissatisfaction with the attention
                         Heche's sexual status is receiving. "On
                         this point I would have to agree with
                         Harrison," says the writer. "You always
                         want audiences responding to your art, not
                         your life. The less people know about you,
                         the better." Towne continues with a
                         metaphor about life in Hollywood. "It
                         doesn't matter what you do in this town as
                         long as you don't scare the horses.
                         Anything that you do that interferes with
                         the illusion of a movie--that's scaring
                         the horses."
    
                         The question for Disney and the Six Days
                         team is whether or not the public will
                         accept an "out" lesbian in a heterosexual
                         romance. Many observers don't think so. 
    
                         Prominent industry publicist Linda Brown
                         says that for actors, coming out "is never
                         a good thing. It never adds." And the new
                         issue of People quotes L.A. talent and
                         literary agent Larry Kennar saying,
                         "People go to the movies to escape. If the
                         man on-screen is having a love scene with
                         a woman and everybody knows the actors are
                         really gay, will anyone buy it?" 
    
                         But New Line production executive Claire
                         Rudnick Polstein, who produced Heche's
                         next film, Wag the Dog, says, "I wouldn't
                         have a problem with this issue. For me it
                         would be okay. I wouldn't have the
                         slightest problem casting Anne. She's a
                         chameleon and she's slightly different in
                         every role she plays." Heche's publicist,
                         Simon Halls, agrees, saying the whole
                         issue is overblown and that Reitman, Ford,
                         and his client "are very, very much
                         looking forward to working together. It's
                         going to be an exciting project and it's
                         full speed ahead."
52.5964CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsMon Apr 28 1997 16:472
    Howard Stern talking about Ellen Degeneres.  I think my WGAS meter just
    got pegged.  
52.5965BUSY::SLABAnd one of us is left to carry on.Mon Apr 28 1997 17:017
    
    	Hmmm, so how can someone watch a movie with a love scene between
    	a husband and wife when they know that in reality those two act-
    	ors are married but not to each other?
    
    	But I'm sure this is different somehow.
    
52.5966PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Mon Apr 28 1997 17:0810
  .5965  i do think it's slightly different.  if Gabriel Byrne is
	 married, i couldn't care less.  if he's gay, i don't want
	 to know about it.  that may be irrational, but there ya
	 go.





52.5967SMURF::WALTERSMon Apr 28 1997 17:091
    You mean like Rock Hudson and stuff?
52.5968PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Mon Apr 28 1997 17:115
   .5967  ya, except that with Rock Hudson, i didn't care
	  one way or the other. ;>


52.5969SMURF::WALTERSMon Apr 28 1997 17:141
    Garbo and Dietrich?
52.5970PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Mon Apr 28 1997 17:176
  .5969   aagagag.

	  really? ;>


52.5971SALEM::DODADon't make me come down there...Mon Apr 28 1997 17:427
                     <<< Note 52.5969 by SMURF::WALTERS >>>

   > Garbo and Dietrich?

    She had a thing on the side with Wojo as well I hear.

     
52.5972ACISS1::BATTISEDS boundMon Apr 28 1997 17:492
    
    Barney Miller humor is never appreciated, ever.
52.5973BUSY::SLABAntisocialMon Apr 28 1997 17:537
    
    	RE: .5966
    
    	No, I'm only focusing on the "suspension of disbelief" aspect of
    	on-screen love scenes between two people that you know wouldn't
    	be together off-screen.
    
52.5974SMURF::WALTERSMon Apr 28 1997 17:592
    Trouble is, most folk don't have a clue which way anyone goes, or
    went. 
52.5975BARSTR::JANDROWMon Apr 28 1997 19:159
    
    watched "phenomonon" over the weekend.  i liked it very much.  wish it
    didn't have me crying like a blubbering idiot (shuddap) at the end, but
    it was still good.
    
    we also rented "kingpin".  watched about 20 minutes of it and turned it
    off.
    
    
52.5976ACISS1::BATTISEDS boundMon Apr 28 1997 19:202
    
    "kingpin" one of Spidermans deadliest enemies.
52.5977Extreme MeasuresSWAM1::MEUSE_DAMon Apr 28 1997 19:328
    
    
    Rented "Extreme Measures".
    Stars Gene Hackman, Hugh Grant, Sarah Jessica Parker.
    
    Excellent suspense-thriller.
    
    
52.5978BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Mon Apr 28 1997 19:443
    
    	Battis, care to tell us how THAT one ended?
    
52.5979BOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveTue Apr 29 1997 12:248
    We watched Fargo and Flatliners last night.  Both were good but very
    bizarre movies.  Flatliners was a bit unbelievable but an interesting
    premise.  Fargo was very believable, probably the thing that made it
    the most disturding.
    
    Both are worth seeing.
    
    --Geoff
52.5980ACISS1::BATTISEDS boundTue Apr 29 1997 12:315
    
    .5978
    
    um, no. not seen it. I'll let someone else spill the beans, perhaps
    even you.
52.5981RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Tue Apr 29 1997 12:3916
    Re .5979:
    
    > Fargo was very believable, probably the thing that made it the most
    > disturding.
    
    Hmm, well, your trips to the bathroom aside, did you read the bit at
    the beginning about how it is a true story?  "Truth is stranger than
    fiction because fiction has to make sense."
    
    
    				-- edp
    
    
Public key fingerprint:  8e ad 63 61 ba 0c 26 86  32 0a 7d 28 db e7 6f 75
To find PGP, read note 2688.4 in Humane::IBMPC_Shareware.
    
52.5982BOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveTue Apr 29 1997 13:113
    Yes I did read the blurb at the beginning.
    
    --Geoff
52.5983SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveTue Apr 29 1997 15:245
    
    	And did you further know that that was a fabrication,
    	ie, a lie ??
    
    
52.5984BOOKIE::KELLERSorry, temporal prime directiveTue Apr 29 1997 17:101
    Nope
52.5985SMARTT::JENNISONAnd baby makes fiveTue Apr 29 1997 17:279
    
    	Well, it was.
    
    	Producer's thought it'd bring more interest to the movie.
    
    	They now say it's a conglomeration of several different
    	crimes.
    
    
52.5986LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningTue Apr 29 1997 17:313
    
    how could you possibly not know?  and how long have
    you not known you didn't know?
52.5987PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue Apr 29 1997 17:334
  Oph's not afraid to ask the tough questions.


52.5988BUSY::SLABCareer Opportunity Week at DECTue Apr 29 1997 17:456
    
    	RE: .5983
    
    	Yeah, right.  Next you're going to tell me that "The Bridges of
    	Madison County" is fiction also.
    
52.5989WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Tue Apr 29 1997 18:183
    I thought Fargo ordinary and basically dull.
    
    With a lot of gratuitous violence and violent imagery.
52.5990PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue Apr 29 1997 18:204
   .5989  you prolly feel better about yourself now too.


52.5991WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Tue Apr 29 1997 18:242
    No, I'm just amazed at how many mediocre movies get 'thumbs up'
    from the critics, reviewers, and Oscar gang.
52.5992LUNER::WALLACETue Apr 29 1997 18:261
    How schadenfruedian.
52.5993WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Tue Apr 29 1997 18:301
    I think you mean schadenfreuden.
52.5994PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue Apr 29 1997 18:313
   aagagag.

52.5995LUNER::WALLACETue Apr 29 1997 18:321
    mi spill chek sez i spelt it rite
52.5996SMURF::WALTERSTue Apr 29 1997 18:332
    What do they mean that there's no equivalent English term?
    'Pisstake' fits perfectly.
52.5997PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue Apr 29 1997 18:334
   calling Herr Covert!


52.5998 all my ex's lives in texis ?GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersTue Apr 29 1997 18:334
    
      whassis shades o' freemen stuff ?
    
      bb
52.5999POWDML::HANGGELIElvis Needs BoatsTue Apr 29 1997 18:343
    
    Schadenfreude.
    
52.6000PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue Apr 29 1997 18:357
   .5999  so the noun and the adjective are the same?  i don't
	  get German.


    

52.6001WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Tue Apr 29 1997 18:383
    schadenfroh is the adj.
    
    -freude(n) is the noun(s).
52.6002LUNER::WALLACETue Apr 29 1997 18:4313
52.6003ACISS1::BATTISEDS boundTue Apr 29 1997 18:484
    
    <<< enjoyment obtained from the troubles of others
    
    explains Glenn and raq's notes clear as a bell.
52.6004POLAR::RICHARDSONA stranger in my own lifeTue Apr 29 1997 18:491
    I'm not sure I quite follow you.
52.6005BARSTR::JANDROWTue Apr 29 1997 19:224
    
    neither do i...
    
    
52.6006LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningTue Apr 29 1997 19:224
    
    hey, mark's not quite sure he follows him.
    
    
52.6007ACISS1::BATTISEDS boundTue Apr 29 1997 19:282
    
    you know, i'm not sure i know what that was for.
52.6008BUSY::SLABCome On'N'OnTue Apr 29 1997 19:368
    
    	Battis, on that cheat sheet of yours that lists
    
    	1) Type
    	2) Think
    
    	try switching the numbers.
    
52.6009ACISS1::BATTISEDS boundTue Apr 29 1997 19:542
    
    slab, that was cruel and uncalled for. noting is hard.
52.6010DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Tue Apr 29 1997 20:564
>  enjoyment obtained from the troubles of others

Doesn't that describe practically all humor?
52.6011BUSY::SLABCrash, burn ... when will I learn?Wed Apr 30 1997 03:543
    
    	Yeah.  Well, the funny stuff at least.
    
52.6012SX4GTO::OLSONDBTC Palo AltoWed Apr 30 1997 16:536
    Never saw Das Boot when it was getting all the attention a few years
    back...wandering around the art house movie theatre last night, I found 
    it on the bill in a 210 minute "Director's Cut" edition.  3.5 hours of 
    depth-charged tension, erkh.  A wrenching movie.  Deserved the hype.
    
    DougO
52.6013ACISS1::BATTISEDS boundThu May 01 1997 12:133
    
    <--- heartily concur, DougO. Jurgens Prochnow was excellent in that
    movie. I haven't seen it in years, but I thouroughly enjoyed it.
52.6014ACISS1::BATTISEDS boundMon May 05 1997 15:492
    
    saw Santa Clause with Tim Allen over the weekend. cute movie.
52.6015CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue May 06 1997 12:517
    Rented Sleepers last night.  It was okay.  Kevin Bacon makes for a good
    psycho/bad guy.  Did not realize Dustin Hoffman was in it until I sawer
    him on the screen.  It was good though it took a little too long to 
    develop.  The flashback to the days of their yoot could have been
    shorter I think.  
    
    Brian
52.6016LUNER::WALLACETue May 06 1997 16:355
    That Thing You Do.
    
    Fun
    Good Tunes
    What's the excitement about Liv Tyler?
52.6017PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue May 06 1997 16:379
>                     <<< Note 52.6016 by LUNER::WALLACE >>>

>    That Thing You Do.

	 imo, they played the song waaaayyy too much.  it was
	 grating after a while.


52.6018imo, hth, nnttm, ymmv, wysiwyg....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue May 06 1997 16:416
|	 imo, they played the song waaaayyy too much.  it was
|	 grating after a while.
    
    It was supposed to be grating after a while.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.6019is that a fact?PENUTS::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue May 06 1997 16:448
>   <<< Note 52.6018 by PERFOM::LICEA_KANE "when it's comin' from the left" >>>
    
>    It was supposed to be grating after a while.

	did you read that somewhere?


52.6020FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 06 1997 16:503
    
    
    	{snicker}
52.6021TROOA::BUTKOVICHclowns to left/jokers to rightTue May 06 1997 16:591
    I loved the scene where they first heard the single on the radio
52.6022I read that somewhere....PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftTue May 06 1997 17:015
|   I loved the scene where they first heard the single on the radio
    
    Me too.  And I also loved the jazz subplot.
    
    								-mr. bill
52.6023MRPTH1::16.121.160.242::slablabounty@mail.dec.comWed May 07 1997 05:544
Not incredibly exciting to an ordinary person, but in the last few days I've seen movies 
which contain three of the cast members of USA's "La Femme Nikita".

52.6024WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed May 07 1997 10:522
    Slab- is it too much to ask for you to keep your replies down to 80
    columns in width?
52.6025WMOIS::GIROUARD_CWed May 07 1997 10:561
    evidently :-)
52.6026ACISS1::BATTISApostrophe abuser supremeWed May 07 1997 12:272
    
    thanks, doc. it's very annoying. kind of like apostrophe abuse.
52.6027MRPTH1::16.121.160.249::slablabounty@mail.dec.comWed May 07 1997 15:4011
Oops. This Netnotes 
thing is pretty tricky 
to get used to.  I'll 
have to measure the 
screen or something.

But being a typical 
male, I'll probably be 
off by 2-3".

52.6028MRPTH1::16.121.160.234::slablabounty@mail.dec.comFri May 09 1997 06:039
"La Femme Nikita" cast sighting update:

As of last night I'd seen four of the USA series' cast members in movies over 
the course of 4-5 nights.

I know this is probably extremely interesting to most of you, and I apologize 
for not logging in last night and updating you all immediately.

52.6029MRPTH1::16.121.160.234::slablabounty@mail.dec.comFri May 09 1997 06:056
"Canadian Bacon" was on cable this afternoon, so I watched some of it.  I'd rented 
it a long time ago [must have been at least a year] and remembered liking it, but it 
was extremely funny this time.  Maybe you have to watch it a couple of times or 
something.  I might even buy it.

52.6030ACISS1::BATTISSniper BoyFri May 09 1997 12:134
    
    i like canadian bacon on my pizza.
    
    just thought i'd share.
52.6031POLAR::RICHARDSONgot any spare change?Fri May 09 1997 13:503
    shawn, can you count to eighty?
    
    Just wondering.
52.6032HOTLNE::BURTrude people ruleFri May 09 1997 13:544
"Jugs, Baps and Mammaries" depicting the ever jovial and flesh swelled bouncing
beauties and telling their story from prepubescent training bra to the 
senileover the shoulder boulder holder. it's a hoot(er) of a movie! rent it at 
your local video store.
52.6033LUNER::WALLACEFri May 09 1997 14:3716
    My store doesn't carry it.
    
    I can, instead, pick from any number of the following:
    
    Dawn of the Dead,
    Night of the living dead
    The Evil Dead
    Basket Case,
    Blood Feast,
    SLumber Party Massacre (parts one & two!)
    
    Not much in the way of "real" sex but plenty of gut ripping, eye
    gouging and exploding heads.
    
    My kids are safe.
                  
52.6034SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Fri May 09 1997 14:515
What, no _I dismember Mama_ or _Bloodsucking Freaks_?

The Evil Dead is a classic.


52.6035ACISS1::BATTISSniper BoyFri May 09 1997 14:522
    
    daryll, you worry me.
52.6036LUNER::WALLACEFri May 09 1997 14:594
    An "Atta "gender specific noun"" to the person who names the 
    write of the screenplay for Slumber Party Massacre.
    
    Ready.,....go
52.6037SMURF::WALTERSFri May 09 1997 15:011
    Oliver Stone.
52.6038LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningFri May 09 1997 15:083
    
    Muhammed Stoolsampli
    
52.6039POWDML::HANGGELIElvis Needs BoatsFri May 09 1997 15:083
    
    Rita Mae Brown.
    
52.6040LUNER::WALLACEFri May 09 1997 15:096
    
        Correct.
    
    	Atta whateveryoursexis.
    
        Rita Mae Brown.
52.6041SMURF::WALTERSFri May 09 1997 15:101
    Anne Grass
52.6042ACISS1::BATTISSniper BoyFri May 09 1997 15:102
    
    you don't know mz_debra's sex? what, you daft?
52.6043nLUNER::WALLACEFri May 09 1997 15:117
                <<< Note 52.6042 by ACISS1::BATTIS "Sniper Boy" >>>
    
    
      >>  you don't know mz_debra's sex? what, you daft?
        
    
    	These are two seperate issues                                                   
52.6044MRPTH1::16.121.160.233::slablabounty@mail.dec.comSat May 10 1997 04:268
"Dead Presidents"

Black guys from The Bronx go to Vietnam and then come back 
and attempt an armored car robbery.



52.6045LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningMon May 12 1997 13:347
    
    finally got to see "Big Night".  for all you food snobs
    out there, this is a must-see movie.  great acting, some
    truly hilarious scenes, and even an italian shrug here and
    there.  the soundtrack is so wonderful - i ran out and bought 
    it the next day.
    
52.6046GAVEL::JANDROWMon May 12 1997 13:396
    
    saw "volcano" saturday nite.  despite the fact that i found the "cure"
    hard to believe, i found it to be a good flick.  tommy lee did it
    again.
    
    
52.6047SUBSYS::NEUMYERHere's your signMon May 12 1997 13:4514
    
    Over the weekend, I watched three movies: Kingpin, Executive Decision,
    and Courage under Fire.
    
    	Kingpin : I haven't laughd this hard for quite a while. Woody was
    great.
    
    	Executive Decision : I wanted to like this, but the story was just
    too unbelievable.
    
    	Courage Under Fire : Great movie. Good combat scenes. Kind of
    predictable though.
    
    ed
52.6048ACISS1::BATTISSniper BoyMon May 12 1997 13:503
    
    I saw "The Flinstones" over the weekens. some very funny parts in it.
    Like the garbage disposal and the crab lawnmower.
52.6049CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon May 12 1997 13:569

 "Kingpin"..the trailers I saw were enough to convince me that I didn't need
 to see this movie.

 "Flinstones"..a great opportunity, but a rotten movie 


 
52.6050GAVEL::JANDROWMon May 12 1997 14:017
    we had to turn off kingpin 20 minutes into it.  we just did not find
    what we were watching to be amusing...
    
    we have borrowed courage under fire from a friend...been meaning to
    watch it for a week...
    
    
52.6051ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQMon May 12 1997 14:054
>    we had to turn off kingpin 20 minutes into it.  we just did not find
>    what we were watching to be amusing...

That's because the first 20 or so minutes aren't funny.
52.6052she's wrong, or course...GAAS::BRAUCHERAnd nothing else mattersMon May 12 1997 14:147
  Rented the modern rendition of Romeo/Juliet.  I enjoyed it.  The dialogue
 is the original.  Some of the "modernisms" work, some don't.

  My wife thinks Romeo was Mr Wrong and Juliet should have loved Paris.

  bb
52.6053MRPTH1::16.34.80.132::slablabounty@mail.dec.comMon May 12 1997 15:397
I make it a point to watch all of the movies that Jim Henderson says 
he hates.  It's worked well so far ... haven't seen a bad movie yet.

Luckily, though, I'm also avoiding all of the movies that he says he 
liked.

52.6054CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon May 12 1997 15:529


 that's too bad...I'm sure you would have enjoyed "Airplane!" and "Top Secret",
 and several others that I liked.



 Jim
52.6055LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningMon May 12 1997 15:553
    
    it is too bad, surely.
    
52.6056CSLALL::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon May 12 1997 15:563

 Not it's not..and please stop calling me Shirley.
52.6057LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningMon May 12 1997 15:573
    
    ba-da-bing, ba-da-boom!
    
52.6058POWDML::HANGGELIWe'll meet you there!Mon May 12 1997 15:593
    
    I enter Shirley on a daily basis.  Sometimes more than once.
    
52.6059obligatory ooh,er missusSHOGUN::KOWALEWICZAre you from away?Mon May 12 1997 16:000
52.6060SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon May 12 1997 16:014
    The movie I went into Suncoast Video for on Saturday was _Thoroughly
    Modern Millie._  What a fun film that is.  Lady Peel could put more
    into a leering line like "Sad... to be all alone... in the world" than
    most of today's "actors" can put into a whole movie.
52.6061TROOA::BUTKOVICHclowns to left/jokers to rightMon May 12 1997 16:2710
    I rented "Bastard out of Carolina" - very well acted but very
    depressing.  Those of you who have only seen Ron Eldard as one of the
    "Men Behaving Badly" wouldn't believe he could pull off this
    performance - he's very good.  The story involves some pretty graphic
    child abuse (including rape) and I wonder how the real parents of the 
    actress who plays the little girl decided that this would be a project 
    she should be involved in.  I mean, she was excellent as well, but I 
    wonder about what kind of emotional upheaval it must have caused.  Ron
    must have felt like a real bastard when they were filming some of these
    scenes.
52.6062MRPTH1::16.34.80.132::slablabounty@mail.dec.comMon May 12 1997 19:578
RE: .6053

I watched those years before I even knew you, luckily for me.

And I'm still amazed that you like them.  But do you cover your eyes 
when the naked woman "jiggles" in the foreground?

52.6063SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Mon May 19 1997 13:393
"Austin Powers" sips indiscreetly.

Do NOT go see this movie.
52.6064prick me with a bare bodkin, that I might attain the point. NNTPD::&quot;walters@ddraig.zk3.dec.com&quot;Mon May 19 1997 13:4410
Romeo and Juliet.  Visually stunning.  So visually stunning that
the eyes constantly compete with the ears and are triumphant as always.

Although, on the whole, I enjoyed it.  




[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]
52.6065GAVEL::JANDROWMon May 19 1997 13:458
    "romy and michelle's high school reunion" is another one of those that
    put the best parts of the movie in the previews.  can't say i care for
    that mira sorvino...her voice seems fake and i just didn't like
    watching her on screen.  i liked lisa kudrow...then again, i like
    "pheobe buffet", too.  
    
    shoulda known bettah...
    
52.6066ACISS1::BATTISSniper BoyMon May 19 1997 14:122
    
    mira sorvino is quite the little eye candy.
52.6067Sorvino, that isBULEAN::BANKSGoose CookerMon May 19 1997 14:151
    However, paul isn't?
52.6068ACISS1::BATTISSniper BoyMon May 19 1997 14:153
    
    sorry, goose cooker, he doesn't do anything for me. great opera
    singer, though.
52.6069BULEAN::BANKSGoose CookerMon May 19 1997 14:333
    's ok.  He doesn't do anything for me, either.  It's just that when I
    read your reply, I saw Sorvino, long before I saw Mira.  Kinda made me
    wonder about you for a minute...
52.6070POLAR::RICHARDSONConformity is freedomMon May 19 1997 16:041
    I wonder about him regardless of what he posts.
52.6071LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningMon May 19 1997 18:217
    
    i wonder why steven spielberg continues to make
    schlock after he's proven he can do serious stuff
    quite well.
    
    certainly he doesn't have to do it for the money.
    
52.6072SMURF::BINDERErrabit quicquid errare potest.Mon May 19 1997 20:465
    .6071
    
    > certainly he doesn't have to do it for the money.
    
    When you have that much money, it's not enough.  Ever.
52.6073POLAR::RICHARDSONConformity is freedomMon May 19 1997 21:001
    I think he does it cause he has fun doing it.
52.6074MRPTH1::16.34.80.132::slablabounty@mail.dec.comMon May 19 1997 21:056
The other day I heard that 10K tickets have already been sold for 
"The Lost World".

It's going to be a HUGE money-maker.

52.6075LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningMon May 19 1997 21:074
    
    yes but, i should think he would tire of doing the
    same sort of thing again and again.  maybe he's just
    a sucker for special effects.
52.6076POLAR::RICHARDSONConformity is freedomTue May 20 1997 00:301
    he likes to play with the toys, isn't that what made him famous?
52.6077WMOIS::GIROUARD_CTue May 20 1997 10:229
    i think you could say the same thing about any profession. some people
    simply develop a passion for something. in all the interviews i've
    seen, SS always says he loves what he does. 
    
    i think SS does enough diversity to keep him interested anyway. he has
    done a range of work including children's stories.
    
    frankly, he's exceptionally talented at it and i'm glad he continues to
    do it. 
52.6078.SWAM1::MEUSE_DAWed May 21 1997 20:027
    
    
    ....heard that a dog gets devoured in Lost World.
    
    several humans too.
    
    
52.6079EDSCLU::JAYAKUMARWed May 21 1997 20:055
>>>    several humans too.
   
goody.. goody..! can't wait until this weekend.
    

52.6080POLAR::RICHARDSONConformity is freedomWed May 21 1997 20:441
    but animals get killed too, Jay. Make sure you wear a turtleneck.
52.6081don't bother, unless you like effectsASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQWed May 28 1997 14:449
Saw Lost World over the weekend...

Jurassic Park had not only pretty good effects, but a decent story. Lost
World has only the effects. 90+ minutes of monsters eating people... it gets
to be a bit much.

For instance... remember the Velociraptor claw thread that ran throughout JP?
That little detail added a measure of suspense and symbolism.  No such luck
in LW.
52.6082ASGMKA::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaWed May 28 1997 15:101
    ..an GCN flick! Garentee Child Nightmare.:)
52.6083POLAR::RICHARDSONuh, buh buh buh buh blonde?Wed May 28 1997 15:111
    I just can't stand it.
52.6084BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Wed May 28 1997 16:201
you're a Lazy-Boy
52.6085DECXPS::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayFri May 30 1997 02:3311


 Saw "Lost World" tonight..this one is great fodder for MST3K like
 commentary (which I provided of course, much to the irritation of
 #2 son).




 Jim
52.6086ACISS1::BATTISCNBC junkieFri May 30 1997 12:272
    
    MST3K? damn, jimbob, speak 'murican.
52.6087POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoFri May 30 1997 12:281
    must some sort of win95 driver/dll banter.
52.6088hthWAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjFri May 30 1997 13:051
    Mystery Science Theater 3000
52.6089BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Fri May 30 1997 14:094
    
    	Geez, Battis, for a TV lover you sure do disappoint me in your lack
    	of knowledge.
    
52.6090ACISS1::BATTISCNBC junkieFri May 30 1997 14:154
    
    um, thanks, doc. never would have guessed that one.
    
    shawn, may a thousand black flies invade your house tonight.
52.6091BULEAN::BANKSGoose CookerFri May 30 1997 14:183
Huh.  No spelling errors or extra apostrophes.

You're slipping.  (Or, for you, maybe I shoulda said "Your slippin'g")
52.6092BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Fri May 30 1997 14:226
    
    	RE: .6090
    
    	Only a thousand?  Geez, that would be like a vacation, considering
    	I live out in the woods!!
    
52.6093ACISS1::BATTISPunctuation impairedFri May 30 1997 14:352
    
    somehow, slab, i feel you belong there.
52.6094FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jun 01 1997 15:385
    
    
    	Jerry Mcguire. Hey, I actually liked it. I must be getting soft.
    
    
52.6095GAVEL::JANDROWSun Jun 01 1997 21:528
    
    i hate it when that happens...
    
    
    
    {insert look of innocence}
    
    
52.6096FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jun 01 1997 22:085
    
    
    	innocence my butt...
    
    ;*)
52.6097POWDML::HANGGELIWe'll meet you there!Sun Jun 01 1997 22:103
    
    Oh dear.
    
52.6098FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jun 01 1997 22:185
    
    
    	yes?
    
    
52.6099WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Jun 02 1997 10:402
    my wife bought JM this weekend. we watched it and enjoyed it as well. 
    Cuba certainly deserved the Oscar. 
52.6100ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQMon Jun 02 1997 12:152
Having seen Lost World, we watched Jurrassic Park again this weekend. It was
still enjoyable. Lost World wasn't.
52.6101LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningMon Jun 02 1997 14:036
    
    "Lone Star".  Good story.  Very adult, no frills,
    typical Sayles stuff.  
    
    And that sheriff, whoever he is.  ooh er.
    
52.6102SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Mon Jun 02 1997 14:093
Any movie that can overcome Kris Kristofferson has to be good.

Chris Cooper was Marshall Sam Deeds.
52.6103LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningMon Jun 02 1997 14:124
    
    i know!  i didn't even mind watching kris.  he wasn't bad,
    actually.  chris cooper, eh?  he's something.
    
52.6104Australian woman wears black. Her sister hugs trees.PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftMon Jun 02 1997 14:1613
    
    I've got to confess.
    
    I *love* the interactive program guide on the cable box.  The program
    descriptions have to be brief.  So, for example, Alien is:
    
    	"Woman's space freighter answers SOS.  Slimey
    	creature boards."
    
    My favorite description so far has to be [see title].
    
    
    								-mr. bill
52.6105POWDML::DOUGANMon Jun 02 1997 14:312
    "A Mongolian Tale" - certainly not Hollywood.  Simple story, subtle
    clues.  The subtitles are badly out of synch.  I liked it.	
52.6106NNTPD::&quot;walters@ddraig.zk3.dec.com&quot;Mon Jun 02 1997 14:3311

Michael Collins.

Nae bad, except for that pneumatic-lipped woman.  Rickman's sly, bipolar
De Valera is effective.




[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]
52.6107DECXPS::HENDERSONGive the world a smile each dayMon Jun 02 1997 14:4410


 Started to watch "Extreme Measures" last night.  Was at my ex's and was too
 tired to finish watching it.  Seemed pretty good, though a bit predictable
 at times.  Maybe I'll watch it tonight.



 Jim
52.6108POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoMon Jun 02 1997 14:471
    I watched "The Deer Hunter" last night. What a somber movie.
52.6109LANDO::OLIVER_Blooking for deep meaningMon Jun 02 1997 14:512
    
    .6108   a nightmare movie.  
52.6110TROOA::BUTKOVICHgot a rubber pencil thing happeninMon Jun 02 1997 15:171
    the music is very effective in "The Deerhunter"
52.6111ACISS2::LEECHTerminal PhilosophyMon Jun 02 1997 15:1823
    Went to see dinosaur movie (Lost World, or something like that).  It
    was a fun movie, but rather predictable.
    
    Spoiler ahead...
    
    There is much MST3000 fodder in this movie.  For instance, the scene
    where these brilliant scientists decided to take the baby T-Rex back to
    their hi-tech recreation vehicle.  Excuse me?  These people are
    supposed to be smart?  I think they had not one shred of common sense,
    personally.  The predictable thing happened of course, baby t-rex was
    whining for its parents, and of course they showed up looking for baby,
    and trashed the iron-clad RV.
    
    I guess the lady scientist didn't learn from her previous encounter
    with dinosaur babies, which almost caused her demise a few hours
    earlier.
    
    There is some good people-munching scenes, and thankfully they didn't
    over-do the gore... that's not something that is really necessary to
    do, IMO.
    
    Special effects were very good, though, and there was a lot of
    interaction with the dinos. 
52.6112CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsMon Jun 02 1997 15:215
    Watched part of Alien last night.  The lack of music adds to the terror
    in that.  It was actually on twice.  I caught the very end where Ripley
    is padding around in her skivvies (oo-er) and the very beginning as
    they were landing on the planet.  I think this was/is one of the
    creepiest movies of all time.  
52.61132 thumbs up for "Sleepers" and "That thing you do"MILKWY::JACQUESMon Jun 02 1997 17:1015
    Watched 2 great flicks this weekend. 
    
    "Sleepers" about 4 boys growing up in NY (Hell's Kitchen). Sent
    to reform school. Seriously abused/raped/beaten by their guards.
    Based on a true story.
    
    "That thing you do". Also based on a true story about a 1-hit-wonder
    60's band from Pa. If you like 60's memorabilia, this is the flick!
    The cast includes Tom Hanks, although he is not the leading man.
    
    I highly recommend both flicks. My wife was apprehensive about
    Sleepers, but she thouroughly enjoyed it as well.
    
    Mark
    
52.6114WECARE::GRIFFINJohn Griffin zko1-3/b31 381-1159Mon Jun 02 1997 17:134
    I attempted but abandoned Sleepers some weeks ago.
    
    The guns, the smoking, and the F word got to me.  Plus, it was boring
    and deadly slow.
52.6115APACHE::KEITHDr. Deuce(s)Mon Jun 02 1997 17:143
    RE .6104
    
    The Piano?
52.6116TROOA::BUTKOVICHgot a rubber pencil thing happeninMon Jun 02 1997 17:172
    I was going to guess that too, but then I remembered that "The Piano"
    was set in New Zealand.
52.6117POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoMon Jun 02 1997 17:201
    what did they do with the organ?
52.6118SCASS1::BARBER_ACan Freakazoid come over?Mon Jun 02 1997 17:242
    Saw part of Foxes yesterday.  Great 70s flick.  Christie McNichol, Matt
    Dillon (yum), Tatum O'neil.
52.6119WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Jun 02 1997 17:301
    Cherie Currie! (sp) Jodie Foster! Yum, indeed!
52.6120TROOA::BUTKOVICHgot a rubber pencil thing happeninMon Jun 02 1997 17:354
    I think you may be combining two different movies.
    
    Wasn't "Little Darlings" the movie with Tatum/Kristy/Matt
    and "Foxes" the one with Jodie Foster?
52.6121SCASS1::BARBER_ACan Freakazoid come over?Mon Jun 02 1997 17:414
    Oh yeah, it was Little Darlings I think.  My friend said Foxes, so I
    got confused.  (pretty common occurrance)
    
    8)
52.6122BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Mon Jun 02 1997 17:435
    
    	Scott Baio was also in "Foxes".
    
    	I've never seen the entire movie.
    
52.6123WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjMon Jun 02 1997 17:432
    Whew! I couldn't remember Kristy McNichols or Matt Dillon being in
    Foxes.
52.6124BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Mon Jun 02 1997 17:437
    
    	RE: .6114
    
    	The smoking got to you?
    
    	Why didn't you just open a window and let a little fresh air in?
    
52.6125SCASS1::BARBER_ACan Freakazoid come over?Mon Jun 02 1997 17:431
    Now I must check out Foxes.  8)
52.6126FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jun 03 1997 11:228
    
    
    	caught the latter 1/2 of Tombstone last night. I've seen it a few
    times, but I just can't get enough of Val Kilmer(sp?) as Doc Holiday. I
    don't believe I've ever seen him play anyone so well. 
    
    
    jim
52.6127ACISS1::BATTISYou name it, I probably screw it up regularlyTue Jun 03 1997 12:047
    
    <------ caught all of Tombstone last night while reading my book.
    
    "I'll be your Huckleberry"
    
    love that line!! Yes, Kilmer did a great job as Doc Holliday.
    better than the Costner version, imho.
52.6128SUBSYS::NEUMYERHere's your signTue Jun 03 1997 12:594
    
    	Yup, one of his best roles. But Dennis Quaid did a fair Doc also.
    
    ed
52.6129SSDEVO::RALSTONNeed a quarter?Tue Jun 03 1997 16:291
    Best gunfight ever, between Doc and Ringo!
52.6130ACISS1::BATTISYou name it, I probably screw it up regularlyTue Jun 03 1997 16:395
    
    Tom, was a classic alright. My two favorite all time gunfight scenes
    were in Shane, and "The Fastest Gun Alive". Glenn Ford and Broderick
    Crawford. those were classic westerns. Oh, Magnificent Seven is also
    a favorite.
52.6131SUBSYS::NEUMYERHere's your signTue Jun 03 1997 16:415
    
    One of my favorite gunfight scenes is in "The Wild Bunch". They almost
    made it out alive.
    
    ed
52.6132Clint foreverASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQTue Jun 03 1997 16:432
"High Plains Drifter"
"Unforgiven"
52.6133FUTURE::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue Jun 03 1997 16:4610
>              <<< Note 52.6132 by ASIC::RANDOLPH "Tom R. N1OOQ" >>>

>"High Plains Drifter"

	that's what i was thinkin'.  i love it when he tells the
	hotel owner to get the people out of the hotel and the owner
	asks him where they're gonna go.  "Out."


52.6134ACISS1::BATTISYou name it, I probably screw it up regularlyTue Jun 03 1997 16:477
    
    a very good movie based on a gunfight is "A Gunfight"  The whole movie
    was based on a gunfight for money between Kirk Douglas and Johnny Cash.
    
    Cash played Abel Cross and Kirk played Will Tennery. Neat twist to the
    movie, was that they showed both gunfighters winning against the other.
    Only one really one though. Great scenery and well acted.
52.6135TROOA::BUTKOVICHgot a rubber pencil thing happeninTue Jun 03 1997 16:472
    One of my favourite cowboy movies - "Silverado" had a number of good
    gun fights.
52.6136BRAT::16.124.24.174::mzdebraWe'llMeetYouThere!Tue Jun 03 1997 16:486
	>    a very good movie based on a gunfight is "A Gunfight"  The whole movie


	Aptly named, I must say.

52.6137ACISS1::BATTISYou name it, I probably screw it up regularlyTue Jun 03 1997 16:485
    
    all the Clint spaghetti westerns were good. "Outlaw Josey Wales"
    is one of my all time favorites. 
    
    "You gonna draw those pistols, or whistle Dixie"
52.6138SUBSYS::NEUMYERHere's your signTue Jun 03 1997 16:514
    
    	"Dieing ain't much of a livin', boy.
    
    ed
52.6139ACISS1::BATTISYou name it, I probably screw it up regularlyTue Jun 03 1997 16:543
    
    "My mule gets this crazy notion that you're laughing at him"
    "Now I'm sure you'll apologize, like I know you'll apologize"
52.6140ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQTue Jun 03 1997 16:545
>     <<< Note 52.6133 by FUTURE::DDESMAISONS "Are you married or happy?" >>>

One of my all time favorites, as a matter of fact...

"When those boys come into town... you just clap the bracelets right on 'em."
52.6141FUTURE::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue Jun 03 1997 16:5610
>           <<< Note 52.6138 by SUBSYS::NEUMYER "Here's your sign" >>>

>    	"Dieing ain't much of a livin', boy.

	dying

	hth


52.6142FUTURE::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue Jun 03 1997 16:599
  .6140

>One of my all time favorites, as a matter of fact...

	likewise.  i love Clint, and that's one of his best, if not
	his best, imho.


52.6143BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Tue Jun 03 1997 17:028
    
    	Yup, same here ... always liked that movie.
    
    
    	RE: .6141
    
    	I think he actually said "Dyin'" and not "Dying".
    
52.6144SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Tue Jun 03 1997 17:034
As Eastwood movies go, I'll take "Josie Wales", "Heartbreak 
Ridge", and "Kelley's Heroes"

daryll
52.6145SUBSYS::NEUMYERHere's your signTue Jun 03 1997 17:074
    
    "Heartbreak Ridge". Didn't they turn him into a wuss in that movie?
    
    ed
52.6146SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Tue Jun 03 1997 17:173
They?

nope.
52.6147POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoTue Jun 03 1997 18:142
    One of my favourite Clint movies is The Bridges of Madison County. I
    didn't think I'd like it, but it made me cry like a bastard.
52.6148BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Tue Jun 03 1997 18:207
    
    	What are you, some sort of a wimp or something?
    
    	That's a chick movie.
    
    	We're supposed to like manly movies like "Dirty Harry" and "Speed".
    
52.6149ASIC::RANDOLPHTom R. N1OOQTue Jun 03 1997 18:221
Yah, we saw "Bridges..." on the big screen. 'Twas good.
52.6150POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoTue Jun 03 1997 18:273
    I got bored with mindless violence a while ago. Although I remember
    being impressed with the way they perfected a bullet wound to the head
    in Sudden Impact.
52.6151FUTURE::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue Jun 03 1997 18:545
>         <<< Note 52.6150 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "A desirable weirdo" >>>

    good one in Miller's Crossing.

52.6152POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoTue Jun 03 1997 18:591
    I haven't seen that.
52.6153BRAT::16.124.24.174::mzdebraWe'llMeetYouThere!Tue Jun 03 1997 19:003
	Been too busy doin' the Provincial Spread.

52.6154FUTURE::DDESMAISONSAre you married or happy?Tue Jun 03 1997 19:028
>         <<< Note 52.6152 by POLAR::RICHARDSON "A desirable weirdo" >>>

>    I haven't seen that.

	get outta town!  that's a great movie.


52.6155POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoTue Jun 03 1997 19:021
    well yes, and a tasty one it is.
52.6156POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoTue Jun 03 1997 19:053
    there are a lot of good movies I haven't seen.  
    
    Miller's Crossing (check)
52.6157SMURF::MSCANLONa ferret on the barco-loungerTue Jun 03 1997 19:437
    Saw "The Fifth Element".  I guess it's another one of
    those, "we have special effects so we really don't need to
    bother with anything as superfluous as a plot" type movies.
    
    It was fun enough and the effects *were* good. If you want to
    see it, see it in a theater.  It will not adapt well to a small screen.
    
52.6158BULEAN::BANKSGoose CookerTue Jun 03 1997 19:4812
Ok, so I'm going out to see a movie tonight, for the first time in months.

Any suggestions?

Criteria:

1. Nothing to do with dinosaurs or other computer generated lizards
2. No Chick Flix
3. Gratuitous violence and/or special effects are ok, but good humor would
   be even better

Any good pictures?
52.6159SSDEVO::RALSTONNeed a quarter?Tue Jun 03 1997 19:505
    All I can say about The Fifth Element is
    
    
    
    Milla Jovovich, yowza!
52.6160GOOEY::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Jun 03 1997 19:5511
    
    
    	Dawn,
    
    	Mike Foley went to see a movie the other night called
    	"The Mighty Guffman" ??  or something like that.  From the
    	same folks that did "Spinal Tap".  Said it was hysterical
    	from the opening scene.
    
    	JJ
    
52.6161POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoTue Jun 03 1997 19:551
    you filthy man. she's not a brunette. How can you live with yourself?
52.6162ACISS1::BATTISYou name it, I probably screw it up regularlyTue Jun 03 1997 19:583
    
    dawn, see gone fishing or something like that. Joe Pesci and Danny
    Glover are in it.
52.6163BRAT::16.124.24.174::mzdebraWe'llMeetYouThere!Tue Jun 03 1997 19:583
	"Waiting for Guffman".

52.6164SSDEVO::RALSTONNeed a quarter?Tue Jun 03 1997 19:593
    >you filthy man. she's not a brunette.
    
    Sometimes she is!  :)
52.6165NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Tue Jun 03 1997 19:591
What a casting coup!  Joe Pesci in Gone Fishin'.
52.6166BULEAN::BANKSGoose CookerTue Jun 03 1997 20:027
Waiting for Guffman:

Sounds kewt, but I don't feel like driving to Newton tonight.

Gone Fishin':

Maybe.  Could be fun.
52.6167BRAT::16.124.24.174::mzdebraWe'llMeetYouThere!Tue Jun 03 1997 20:055
	http://www.jalmon.com/~mijopg1.html

	I don't see the attraction?

52.6168BIGQ::SILVAhttp://www.ziplink.net/~glen/decplus/Tue Jun 03 1997 20:073

	Do you have a membership, Deb? :-)
52.6169POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoTue Jun 03 1997 20:071
    ugh! what a horrible picture of her!!
52.6170BRAT::16.124.24.174::mzdebraWe'llMeetYouThere!Tue Jun 03 1997 20:093
	No, I don't have a membership 8^).

52.6171ACISS1::BATTISYou name it, I probably screw it up regularlyTue Jun 03 1997 20:152
    
    she isn't pretty at all. ugh!
52.6172POLAR::RICHARDSONA desirable weirdoTue Jun 03 1997 20:161
    if you saw the movie, you would change your mind.
52.6173SCASS1::BARBER_ACan Freakazoid come over?Tue Jun 03 1997 20:242
    Dawn, have you seen Austin Powers?  I'm dying to see that.  It's
    supposed to be a real hoot.
52.6174BULEAN::BANKSGoose CookerTue Jun 03 1997 20:278
    It's supposed to be "shagadellic, baby!"
    
    It's on my short list of movies that I'd see if I were to see more than
    one movie.
    
    I think I'm going to go to the shoebox theaters in Tyngsboro tonight,
    and make a rash decision (Gone Fishin, Austin Powers, 5th Element,
    Trial and Error, not in any order of preference).
52.6175BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Tue Jun 03 1997 20:289
    
    	RE: .6167
    
    	Yes, that's a terrible picture of her.
    
    	Anyone who saw "Return to the Blue Lagoon" might think better of
    	her.  Or, ummm, that Christian Slater movie ... "Kuffs", that was
    	it.  Milla was a babe in that one for sure.
    
52.6176SSDEVO::RALSTONNeed a quarter?Tue Jun 03 1997 22:193
    >ugh! what a horrible picture of her!!
    
    Yes, I guess that is why she isn't normally a brunette.
52.6177SSDEVO::RALSTONNeed a quarter?Tue Jun 03 1997 22:459
    Milla movies include:
    
    The Fifth Element, (1997)
    Dazed and Confused (1993) ....Michelle 
    Chaplin (1992) .... Mildred Harris 
    Kuffs (1992) .... Maya Carlton
    Return to the Blue Lagoon (1991) .... Lilli 
    Night Train to Kathmandu, The (1988) (TV) 
    Two Moon Junction (1988) ....Samantha
52.6178BULEAN::BANKSAre you correct or happy?Wed Jun 04 1997 10:554
    Went to see 5th Element.  It was funny.  I laughed my asterisk off.
    
    Milla whatshername was kinda cute.  For those who couldn't figure it
    out, blaze orange was probably not her natural hair color...  ;-)
52.6179WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Jun 04 1997 11:133
    >blaze orange was probably not her natural hair color...
    
    Oh, come on! Hide your spoilers behind form-feeds!
52.6180SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Wed Jun 04 1997 13:113
I had the misfortune of seeing _Austin Powers_. It was MISERABLE.

I can't recall seeing a movie this bad.
52.6181ACISS1::BATTISYou name it, I probably screw it up regularlyWed Jun 04 1997 13:172
    
    daryll, think Ishtar. nnttm
52.6182SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Wed Jun 04 1997 13:171
worse than Ishtar. much worse. absolute swill. 
52.6183ACISS1::BATTISYou name it, I probably screw it up regularlyWed Jun 04 1997 13:202
    
    well, where there's a swill there's a way.
52.6184WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Jun 04 1997 13:324
>I had the misfortune of seeing _Austin Powers_. It was MISERABLE.
    
    Based on the previews, I find it incomprehensible that anyone would
    choose to see it even for free, much less pay money for it. 
52.6185POLAR::RICHARDSONMilk carton candidateWed Jun 04 1997 13:361
    Ya, Doda, what on earth were you thinking, eh?
52.6186NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Jun 04 1997 13:526
>    Went to see 5th Element.  It was funny.  I laughed my asterisk off.
>    
>    Milla whatshername was kinda cute.  For those who couldn't figure it
>    out, blaze orange was probably not her natural hair color...  ;-)

Is Fifth Element about hunting?
52.6187BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Wed Jun 04 1997 13:565
    
    	RE: .6180
    
    	You mean "I can't recall seeing another movie this bad".
    
52.6188SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Wed Jun 04 1997 14:098
               <<< Note 52.6184 by WAHOO::LEVESQUE "Spott Itj" >>>
    
   > Based on the previews, I find it incomprehensible that anyone would
   > choose to see it even for free, much less pay money for it. 

     I missed the part where I said that I had seen the previews.

     
52.6189POLAR::RICHARDSONMilk carton candidateWed Jun 04 1997 14:131
    so, who twisted your arm?
52.6190SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Wed Jun 04 1997 14:194
They said, "we're going to see _austin powers_ and get something 
to eat afterwards, want to come along?"

It was a slow night. We ate after the viewing, thankfully.
52.6191ACISS1::BATTISYou name it, I probably screw it up regularlyWed Jun 04 1997 14:214
    
    .6190
    
    kinda like going to a wake, eh?
52.6192WAHOO::LEVESQUESpott ItjWed Jun 04 1997 14:254
    > I missed the part where I said that I had seen the previews.
    
     I missed the part where I accused you of seeing Austin Powers after
    having seen the previews. /hth
52.6193SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Wed Jun 04 1997 14:495
               <<< Note 52.6192 by WAHOO::LEVESQUE "Spott Itj" >>>

    > /hth

    Nope. But everyone does need a goal I suppose.
52.6194SCASS1::BARBER_ACan Freakazoid come over?Wed Jun 04 1997 14:491
    I like the previews.  Hmmm.  What was so bad about AP?
52.6195SALEM::DODAJust you wait...Wed Jun 04 1997 14:585
It wasn't funny. If, by accident, Myers happen to stumble upon 
something that was the least bit humorous, he would repeat it 
until you sat there wanting to scream "Move on for cripes sake!".


52.6196SCASS1::BARBER_ACan Freakazoid come over?Wed Jun 04 1997 15:002
    I'm gonna have to see it anyway.  It looks incredibly funny from the
    previews.  Guess I have a warped sense of humor or something.
52.6197BRAT::16.124.24.174::mzdebraWe'llMeetYouThere!Wed Jun 04 1997 15:025
	It could be funnier to those who weren't actually
	around in the sixties.


52.6198SCASS1::BARBER_ACan Freakazoid come over?Wed Jun 04 1997 15:041
    There ya go...maybe that's why it looked funny to me.
52.6199BRAT::JENNISONIm Your Angel UndercoverWed Jun 04 1997 19:371
    Pril............ You will love it !!!!