Conference back40::soapbox

    HEY!
    
    why the hell don't you folks in CO or GA volunteer to host a shadow
    copy? maybe even someone over the pond. the way the easynet's topology
    goes it wouldn't do squat to have one here in minisoda.

    I'd volunteer to be a host by I have to clear all invitations with the
    wife first...something about the last time Haag was in DC and the mess
    he caused at the Pool Hall...

    COSSACK!

    
    
    Gene did fine at the poolhall, Waffle, it was you that caused the
    disturbance getting stuck in the door of the stall in the bathroom like
    you did......

Note 13.4 by GRANPA::MWANNEMACHER 
    
    >Gene did fine at the poolhall, Waffle, it was you that caused the
    >disturbance getting stuck in the door of the stall in the bathroom like
    >you did......
    
    ...with one foot in the commode no less. quite a scene.

    talk about hitting a man while he's down....
    
    Gene couldn't keep his eyes off the chick at the jukebox and he blew
    plenty a billard shot because of that...
    
    Mikey was thrown out of the place when he insisted on his Shirley
    Temple coming with a lemon...

    well fritzlehead, she WAS cute.

    
    {ahem} Dr.Dan, you have to keep having it DELETED before you REPOST it
    or it's just not the same.

re: last .several

Dan has apparently been caught up in some sort of a vortex whilst surfing
the WWW.

Or something.

/john,
   This appears to be a perennial favorite of yours.

    Re .11:
    
    Sorry Mz. Deb, such verisimilitude is beyond me.  But thanks for
    understanding the idea.  :)
    

    Do it in a recurrent batch job, two or three times a day for the next
    week, Dan; then the soapbox audience will get the true flavor of
    annoying harassment, next unseen irregularly bringing them back to
    something that simply isn't that important.  Niggle them to death.
    
    DougO

    Of course, there's no need for such methods since there's no deletion
    going on here.

    depends on what point one wants to get across, n'est-ce pas?
    
    DougO

	all of us who are going to get the point got it a while back.
	

    oh, no, Di, I think the really engaging dynamic of a thorough ongoing
    annoyance has only been hinted at, the point barely seen; I think Dan
    could really drive it home for a large proportion of apathetic boxers.
    
    It would really be cool if he could hack as well as the person he
    emulates and forge the signature on the annoying batch job posts, too.
    
    DougO

    what say we leave other conferences' issues in other conferences?

	whatever floats your boat, dougo.

    methinks I detect a certain sensitivity on the part of the mods.
    
    DougO

	methinks i would have said the same thing if i weren't a mod.

    Well, THAT wuz fun!!
    
    |-{:-)
    

    what is the zip code for kingston, NH?

>    what is the zip code for kingston, NH?



   03848



Jim

    thanks jim. i'm doin up my Xmas cards for this year and didn't have
    that.

RE:            <<< Note 13.10 by HAAG::HAAG "Rode hard. Put up wet." >>>

   > thanks jim. i'm doin up my Xmas cards for this year and didn't have
   > that.


  No problemo..just happened to have my phone book with NH zip codes right 
 next to my pc last night ;-)



Jim

        How far from Manteca CA to Anaheim?  How much drive-time?
        

350 miles; 5 hours if you drive like a bat out of hell; 6-7 if you don't.

/john

    
    when are you going to be in the city of lard, dan?

    
    Q1:  Is ::SOAPBOX still listed in easynotes.lis under the "Valuing
         Diversity" heading?
    
    
    PS -- Whatever became of VoD anyways?!?

    
    Went the way of sensytyvyty training...

    >PS -- Whatever became of VoD anyways?!?
    
    The Video-on-Demand group is doing quite well, tyvm.

    I demand some video, RIGHT NOW!!!

    on my new used car, that's an oxymoron for you, I'm having some sort of
    electrical problem...my turn signals work, hazard flashers work, brake
    lights work, but the tail lights don't work...I first replaced the
    bulbs, no luck...then I replaced a fuse, still no luck...any
    suggestions?

    Run a hot wire to a switch on your steering wheel and connect that
    directly to your brake lights. Every time you use the brakes, press the
    switch.

    YVW

    You most likely have a short or a blown fuse or both.  The brake light
    switch may be defective.  see also DLOACT::CARBUFFS.
    
    Brian

	
	Make sure you're using the correct bulb.  Some sockets have
	two contacts.

	Gary L.

	

| <<< Note 13.32 by USAT02::WARRENFELTZR >>>

| on my new used car, that's an oxymoron for you, I'm having some sort of
| electrical problem...my turn signals work, hazard flashers work, brake
| lights work, but the tail lights don't work...I first replaced the
| bulbs, no luck...then I replaced a fuse, still no luck...any suggestions?

	Get a new car.

    
    sorta silly question...and i really don't know how to phrase it...
    
    which is more correct:
    
    "an xmas card"
    or
    "a xmas card"
    
    since most people i know say CHRISTMAS when they read XMAS...
    
    i have encounterd this before when i have written an acronym into
    a sentence, but know most people interpalate the real words for the
    letters...and right now i can't remember which one, but there is one...
    
     

    .37
    
    if you must use "xmas," use "an xmas card" because "xmas" is perceived
    as being pronounced "ex-mass" despite its actual meaning.

    
    
    >>but xmas is an abbreviation, not an acronym. >-
    
    true...i realized that after i entered it...

	Raq, the best one to use is Christmas. Never say X when talking about
Christ. :-)

    
    Have a great weekend !
    
    Luv to you all.
    
    Heiko

    I wonder whether anyone out there in Digital NotesLand has a spare "Lab
    Notebook" in their office supplies cabinet that they could send me at
    LJO2 Pole I1?  We don't seem to have them in the ready-to-order office
    supply catalogue, and my local stationery stores can't get 'em in
    quantities less than thirty...  
    
                               COMPUTATION BOOK
                 American Pad & Paper Co., Holyoke MA  01040
                            Model number:  22-157
                                      
    Description:  THIS MODEL HAS A WIRE BINDER, a brown cardboard cover,
    thick-stock yellow paper pages with .25" graph-paper ruling on both
    sides, each side consecutively numbered to at least page 152..
    
    If you find something close, check that it's not perfect-bound.  Those
    are available, but ya can't open 'em flat.  The bound ones are better
    for Patent Office work, but I'm not that inspired...
    
    They cost about $15 each retail.  If you have one that's personal
    property and you're willing to part with it, I would of course pay for
    it!  Addictions to notebook formats that one has been using for 30
    years are hard to break, donchaknow.  And for those of you who wonder
    why someone so keyboard-centric is still stuck on notebooks, I will
    remind you that "The paperless office is about as much use as the
    paperless bathroom." :-) TYVM for any help!
    
                            (crossposted in =wn=)

 I've noticed on my new CD player that a couple CDs, on certain tracks,
 there's a noise similar to the sound made when the needle on a phonograph
 (remember those?) reaches the end of a record..the music is there, but 
 the "scratching" noise ruins it...any idea what it might be? Was rather
 disappointing when I put on  (budget CD) Swan Lake :-(   Other CDs play
 fine..



Jim 

    hmmm...
    
    jim, that don't sound right. my CD player has been exceptional. make
    sure your CD's are clean. i have nearly 400 watts of speakers here in
    the downstairs. QUALITY speakers, and i ain't never heard a scratch.
    'cept wheni got my old beatles albums out from '69. gawd, we is old
    koots!!!

 ya, I gotta clean them maybe...



 I was blown away by the sound this thing (coupled with the new receiver) puts
 out..now I gotta get new speakers, but they're going to have to wait a while..



 Jim

   Was the music originally recorded on disc or old tape?

RE:                   <<< Note 13.46 by TNPUBS::JONG "Steve" >>>
                     -< Scrates could be from the masters >-

   >Was the music originally recorded on disc or old tape?


    One has "DDD" on the label, another is AAD.  Both played fine on 
    my old CD player.




Jim

    DDD is a digital master recorded using digital equipment.  AAD is an 
    analog master using analog eqipment.  It will not be as good.  There
    shouldn't be any clicks and pops though.  Background hiss, less full
    sound, highs too bright or poor bass (or is it the other way around)
    are often associated with the analog recordings.  
    
    Brian 

    
    
    ....and your old cd player may not have picked up these noises since,
    it seems from your noting, that it wasn't 1/2 the machine you have
    now...
    
    

RE:       <<< Note 13.49 by GAVEL::JANDROW "Au naturelle..back 2 basics" >>>

    
    
   > ....and your old cd player may not have picked up these noises since,
   > it seems from your noting, that it wasn't 1/2 the machine you have
   > now...
    

    Thanks, raq...I've been wondering about that..



Jim
    

However, if the ticking is at roughly the revolution rate of the CD, it is
most likely either dirt on the CD or a problem with the player.

/john

 I'm gonna try cleaning the CDs.  All the CDs I've played on the new
one sound fine, with the exception of 2 (so far).




Jim

	Jim,
	
	Can you bring the CDs to where you bought the unit and play them
	on the same model there? You might want to swap yours for a new
	one while it's still under warranty.
	
	Jay

    
    
    how come recognizable obscenities (as in those spelled out-right) are
    allowed in other conferences???  isn't it a company-wide thing that
    there are to be none in company conferences???
    
    

 Thanks, Jay...I'll try cleaning them, and then try your suggestion.





Jim

    Is there a way to make EVE/TPU within notes do an autosave every x
    keystrokes, or every y minutes?  I took a line hit and lost a lengthy
    reply this morning and I'm too mad to retype it.  This happens too
    often.
    
    DougO

    can't you just type reply/last to retrieve the lost note?
    
    eve/tpu also has a journal file, so you can recreate lost buffers...

    I'm talking serious line hits, that completely blow away my dial-in LAT
    session; and since my sysmgr doesn't have virt term enabled on sx4gto,
    the process goes kaput.  There's nothing left to connect to, nothing
    left to save.
    
    DougO

    what about .tjl files?

    $ dir/since shows nothing...
    
    really, can I get autosave outta this lame editor or not?
    
    DougO

    Not that I know of. Lame compared to what? vi?

	use SEDT. latest version (I believe) does checkpointing.

    [command] buffer lame                                                
    [command] set journal lame
    
    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
    
    [command] select all
    [command] cut
    [command] buffer notes$edit
    [command] paste
    
    								-mr. bill

The default for a normal editing session in TPU/EVE is to have journalling on.

But VAX Notes doesn't set up the default unless you invode TPU as an external
editor.

Mr. Bill's cryptic reply may be the way to turn on journalling from within
VAX Notes.  I'm not sure.

/john

    The notes$edit buffer can not be journaled.  Why?  Who cares.
    I quote:
    
    "Buffer NOTES$EDIT is not safe to journal (please write it out)."
    
    Edit in another buffer, turn on journaling in that buffer, then
    copy the text back to notes$edit and exit.
    
    								-mr. bill

    thank you.  I just spent twenty minutes going around it; I finally went
    into OpenVMS System Management Mode, deciphered tty_defchar2, turned on
    bit 17, and rewrote sx4gto's modparams.dat file to make autogen set the
    terminals up for disconnect.  now, when I get line hits, and get
    disconnected, my process should stay connected to a virtual terminal
    and I should be able to login again and attach to it.  ooops, have to
    make sure the sysgen connect vta0 command is in place, too.
    
    but since this won't take effect until the next reboot, which i'll try
    to make happen tonight, I'll use the journal in another buffer trick
    meanwhile.  thank you.
    
    DougO

    ah, well, it was a nice try.  Evidently this VAX I'm on has outdated
    software.  I'll just have to do manual saves until I get it rebooted.
    
    >[command] set journal lame
        
    Don't understand command: set journal
    
    DougO

    
    
    sorta of a stupid, but serious question:
    
    i have a cable ready tv.  i have a cable ready vcr.  i have cable.  all
    are hooked up so everything works.  HOWEVER, when i have the vcr on and
    it is on the vcr setting, i can change channels via the vcr
    remote...but i can only do so til channel 13.  channel 14 and up only
    come in as a blue screen.  turn the vcr off, and all the channels come
    in via the tv...
    
    what did i do wrong?????
    
    

    Stupid question, but relevent... Is it an older VCR or is it
    simply limited to 13 channels?  Consult the manual. VCR's have
    a separate tuner so operate independently from the tv...
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    Chip

    Re:  .68
    
    Or you can Notes> add entry turris::video and speak with genuine video
    experts and enthusiasts.
    

    Your VCR may be programmed to not accept anything higher than 13.  Did
    you try 38, 56, 66, 25, 27?  My VCR let's meturn channels off so I do
    not have to surf through static and other stuff while button pushing.
    
    Brian

    
    
    it is relatively new...about 2 years old...i hit the 'auto program'
    this morning, figuring that maybe during the last electrical outage, it
    erased it, but even after that nothing over channel 13 comes in, just
    that blue screen.  and i am almost positive that it used to
    work...maybe not at this house, but when i first got it...cuz back
    then, i had a non-cable ready tv, so i fed the cable into the vcr and
    got all the stations then...my vcr has about 120 channels...
    
    hey, maybe that's what's wrong...maybe when the person who set it up
    fed the cable line into the tv, and not the vcr...hmmm.....this is
    worth checking out...i didn't have time to check the manual this
    morning...
    
    

    
    
       Raq,
    
       Check the vcr there is probably 2 settings for signal receipt, mine
    has a setting for standard antena, and a setting for cable, by setting
    it to cable and hitting the auto program walla all the cable chanels 
    except for the premium canels come in.
    
      But a TTH, our yellow lab chewed up the vcr remote, I reassembled it
    with all the pieces that were found and 1 roll of tape later it works
    not well mind you but it does work (most times).
    
                                                          Lee
    

    
    will do...don't know if i put it back on catv after that last
    powerout...
    
    

 What .73 said should be the solution.  Had a similar problem with mine
 (when I went a few weeks without cable).




Jim

    ok. i give up. how does one re-register a decnet node? its only been
    about 7-8 years since i tried it and haven't a clue. VTX wasn't much
    help.

Gene,

Did you get bitten by the DECnet area 45 going away?  I think you to send mail
to Registrar @ALF, (I've forgotten the exact VMSmail account) which is really
Jamesetta ??? and she will send you the electronic form.

Bob

    	Anybody have any helpful hints to easily (and neatly) get the 
    	turkey wing separated from the rest of the turkey when carving?
    
    	I always have a tough time -- especially with the second one.
    	Sometimes I can get the first one off OK, but then when trying
    	to carve off the second one I usually resort to hacking for a
    	while, and then just ripping it off with my hands.

         Where's \nasser when we need 'im?  Surely \HE would know...

    	\nasser only knows how to cute his bird wings.

    bend it the way it's not supposed to go and use a sharp knife to cut
    through the tendons. Then bend it the rest of the way and finish
    detaching it.

    	Bend it.  Bend it.  With what?  My hands?  If I'm using my hands 
    	to bend it, what should I use to hold the knife to cut it?  And
    	doesn't that fail proper etiquette rules?  Should I be handling
    	other people's food with my hands?

     If the bird is fully cooked, it won't be hard to bend using a
    carving fork. But it's even easier when you use your hands (and it only
    takes one, leaving the other to work the knife.)
    
    ]doesn't that fail proper etiquette rules? 
    
     If you are carving at the table, make the extra effort to use the
    carving fork. If you are carving in the kitchen (putting together a
    platter of meat), then no one will see you and if your hands are clean
    (as they ought to be with you preparing food) then there's nothing
    wrong with it.

    Joe,
    
    Use your carving fork to twist the wing around.  Takes a bit of
    practice, but I am sure you can master it as others have.  It also
    helps if the wings were twisted around before foasting.  This already
    exposes the joints in the right place to cut through.
    
    meg

    
    jim and lee...
    
    mercy buckets...i had forgotten to switch the vcr tuner to cable...now
    i can get all the channels i am supposed over 13... :>
    
    
    -raq
    

    meg:
    
    what happens after "foasting"?
    
    :-)

 Great!

    letting the tufkey set so the juices do thefe fing.
    
    ;-)
    
    (I knew I shouldn't have washed my fingers today.  I can't type a thing
    with them.
    
    meg

    	I was thinking about the wing thing overnight, and I came to the
    	realization that I am able to cut the first one off relatively
    	easily because the other one still being on gives me some different
    	leverage.  When cutting off the second one, my problem seems to 
    	be that the turkey rolls around more easily, adding to the
    	difficulties of finding the shoulder (wing) socket.
    
    	In all cases, before cutting off the wing on one side, I cut off
    	the leg on that side too.  In fact, by the time I get to the second
    	side, I've also cut off the white meat from the first side too.
    	So what I have left when cutting off the second wing is a 
    	football-shaped carcass with one wing attached.
    
    	Next time I'm going to try cutting off the two wings first before 
    	cutting off anything else...  And I'll be sure to do it out of
    	eyesight of the guests so that I won't have to worry about
    	etiquette if I have to use my hands.

    By George, I think he's got it!
    
    Meg
    
    maybe we should will you a carving manual when you leave.

    maybe we should will you a carving manual when you leave.
    
    		[snicker]

Joe, half a stick of dynamite will easily remove both wings.  Make sure not to
put it in until *after* the bird is cooked.

    one should never cute off the wings of a turkey unless it has been
    properly cocked first...
    
    \nasser
    
    and don't try the "turkey stuffed with black powder" experinemt, if
    anybody is watching.

    I had an uncle who once roasted a turkey on a home made grill he made
    from a 55 galloon drum...didn't 'ventilate' the turkey enuf...it ended
    up in 10,000 pieces

    the surest way of separating a wing from a cooked bird is to lift the
    bird out of the oven/grill by the wing and attempt to cover any size 
    floor (kitchen or garage or patio) space before setting it on a serving 
    platter. guaranteed to seperate the wing from the bird everytime.

    re .96
    
    This presumes you don't have guests in the kitchen or off the deck of
    course.  Otherwise you windup taking a quick course in how to skin a
    hot turkey, instead of brushing the floor mice off it, or letting the
    dog clean up the mess for you.
    
    meg

    
    
    
    
    A chainsaw
    

 
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    Betcha a millyun bux that when ol' Joe starts in on his turkey, he has
    an especially twisted grin on 'is puss when he cuts off the LEFT
    wing...  and I bet he spares the RIGHT wing any way he can...
    
    :-)
    

    	All left wingers are turkeys.

    But Joe,
    
    Without both tthe left wing and the right wing nutz the whole political
    machine will fall apart.  The nutz hold the center together.
    
    meg

    Present!!
    
    :-)
       
    
    (gobble)
    

    
    
    RE: .99  BZZZZT, wrong answer, that appears to be a hacksaw.

    But, But.  It had lumpy things on it like a chain.  Maybe a manual
    chainsaw?
    
    

    Appearances are deceiving.  It is clrearly an ECO-chainsaw.  No
    internal combustion engine to consume fossil fuels etc.  The only
    energy expended is caloric which is good for the body as well.  
    
    Brian

    	Looked like a chain to me.
    
    	Pretty clever.

    
    I was expecting a gold chain TYVM......

    that was an environmentally friendly, non-polluting, PC chainsaw.
    Will not damage the rain forest, displace spotted owls, harm snail
    darters or humpback whales.
    
    Contains no CFCs.

    re .97
    
    good 'n meg.

    
    
    'twas a (insert favorite ethnic group here) chainsaw!!!
    
    I have a real one here, made out ogf the chains they hang lights
    with. ( the scoundrels!!!)

In the last box, some noter entered a rather astute comment
comparing left wing liberal policies to bedwetting, but I
can't recall the precise wording.

Could we please have a replay on that?

    Nope Jack -- that was bleeding HEART liberalism, not leaking BLADDER.
    
    Sheesh...
    

Er, no, I think you may have missed it Dan'l.

It was something along the line of producing a temp. feeling
of warmth and comfort followed by a sick, chilling realization
that yet another mess had been made. It was worded much better,
though.

It may have been one of the Mike's from down south (Ciarochi or
Maciolek) but I can't recall.

     >>                       -< Polish Chainsaw... >-

    careful andy. you be steppin mighty close to soapbox legends. mouthy he
    was. but legendary nevertheless.
    

    
    <--------
    Sorry gene.... I don't get the connect (being Polish and all ;)
    
    I just filled in the obligatory <ethnic>...
    
    Enlighten me (seeing as how I'm so gullible elsewhere...)
    

    
    
    
    He be referrin to the Texas Chainsaw.

    
    Oh.. that explains it....
    
     Sorry if I intruded into the inner sanctum and all... :)
    

    
    
    S'okay, after all you're polish, how would you have a clue?

    
    <------------
    
    Exactly!!! Being "gullible" and all.... ;)
    

    
    watch it there, andy...youse be giving the rest of us pollaqs a bad
    name...
    
    

    
    re. polish chainsaw.
    
    
    	Just don't cut yerself polishing it!!!

    YA ANDY... WHATAREYA A POLOCK OR SOMETHING????
    
    Liberal Democratic lawmaking is like bed wetting.  There's a brief,
    warm feeling soon followed by a cold, sickening realization that you
    have just made another costly mess.
    
    

    
    RE: .125
    
    >YA ANDY... WHATAREYA A POLOCK OR SOMETHING????
    
    Yo!! Mad_Mike!!!!!  What is that??? The Deep South spelling???
    
    The closest thing I know of (Pollock) is a fish they catch off the coast
    up here...
    
     Get it right.... "Polack"
    
    :) :) :) :)
    --------------
    
    
     Paaahdon me Mz. Jandrowski!!!!!!
    
    :) :)
    
    

    
    heyheyhey!!!  don't go messing a up a perfectly good french name!!!!
    it was jandreay...not ()ski!!!!  whyioughta!!!
    
    

    Um, Raq, wasn't that Jandreau?  

    
    
    oooopppss...typo...my polish side kicking in... ;>:>:>:>:>
    
    

    
    
    anybody out there watch the new comedy "women of the house" starring
    delta burke???  well, i thought it was pretty amusing, tho i didn't
    watch the whole thing (bits and pieces throughout it's hour debut).
    anyway, a couple of times, she and her co-stars refered to the 
    'dahming dinner' (or something like that....) which ended up causing a
    sleepless nite for her retarded brother...THEN, as i watched the tape
    of monday's episode of my soap opera, again, a reference came up to the
    same dinner...this time, when the caterer couldn't make it due to being
    snowed in...what the heck were they talking about??????
    
    

    They were talking about the Donner Party.  A group of settlers, in the
    1800's, were traveling west, and got caught in a snowstorm in a
    mountain pass in CA(?).  They survived by resorting to cannibalism.
    
    I'm sure some of the box history buffs can provide additional details.
    
    Dan 

    
    i saw it - it was the "Donner party".  I'm a fan of the Sugarbakers but
    I didn't like the changes in Suzanne - she cursed more in one episode
    than in all the designing women episodes.  
    
    the creator's (thomasons) politics are showing through as well - they 
    will lambast the press for the sake of their best friends - the clintons.
    
    its basically a crass, cyncical show and i'm sorry about that since it 
    could have been really funny.
    
    jeff

    They were two families from the east, the Donners and the Breens, who
    headed west and got hung up in one of the worst blizzards in history.
    They were snow bound for the most part of the winter and had to eat
    members of the family to last until help could arrive. Most of the
    Donners died with only one or two surviving. There is a pass some where
    in the west (norther Califonia I think) called the Donner Pass. At the
    entrace to the pass is a statue of the family and the history behind
    the Donners. PBS ran a show on them down here a little more than a year
    ago. It took me a long time to figure out what Larson was referring to
    in the Far Side on more than one occassion.
    
    Hope this helps> 

RE:                       <<< Note 13.133 by MAIL1::CRANE >>>

   >    Donners died with only one or two surviving. There is a pass some where
   > in the west (norther Califonia I think) called the Donner Pass. At the
   > entrace to the pass is a statue of the family and the history behind
   > the Donners. PBS ran a show on them down here a little more than a year
    
  
     Donner Pass is located between Reno, Nevada and Sacramento, Calif, on
     Rte 40 which used to be the major highway between Sacramento and
     Reno, which has been replaced by Interstate 80.  Highway 40 is a 
     rather harrowing journey, particularly during the winter.  The 
     statue is located on the Eastern side of the pass, as I recall and
     the marker states that the snow was as deep as the statue is high..

     I was on a train a few years ago enroute from Boston to San Francisco
     and on the Reno-Sacramento leg there was an historian on board discussing
     the journey of the Donners..




 Jim

    I was told there is a show called "Friends" on Tuesday and Thursday
    evenings.  I have had five different people approach me to tell me
    there is a guy on the show who looks just like me!!!  I'M A
    CELEBRITY!!!!
    
    -Jack

	So, which character is it?
	Enquiring minds and all...

    I'd bet it's the nerdy guy who never gets a date. Short, dark hair.
    Total Myron. :-)
    
     No offense. 8^)

    
    Is he the one whose ex is now a lesbian and is having a baby with her
    partner?  I think he looks like Jack 8^).

    OUCH...THAT HURT!!!
    
    Actually, I haven't seen the show but I hear he is quite dashing,
    handsome, and intellectual....everything you would want in a man!!
    
    -Jack

    :-)

 Does anybody in the 'box have the net address for AOL?





Jim

    Do you mean something like US2MRC::"ralto@aol.com"?  If I had an
    AOL account (which I don't), that would be the way to get through
    to me.  Actually, the "2" in US2MRC could be some other number,
    depending on where you are (1 is better for Mass., 2 is better
    for NH, and there are others that I forget).
    
    If you mean AOL in general, then I dunno...
    
    Chris

    
    first of all, now that you mention, you're right....ross DOES looq liqe 
    jack...never really thought about it...and yes, ross is the one who can
    never get a date, is really intellectual, kinda sexy (due to his
    intelligence) and whose wife left him for another woman.  i like the
    show, tho sometimes it is quite lame.
    
    second of all....mercy buckets for the info on the donners...i thought
    it was quite odd how i heard a refence for them twice in one nite on
    two different shows.
    
    and about the show...it definitely has room for improvement.  i did
    think teri garr was pretty funny...she had called 911 because when she
    woke up, her hand wasn't trembling...they told her it was probably
    because she was sober... :>  but i'd watch it again...even with delta's
    brassness, it'll be good to see washington made fun of some more...:>
    

 Re .142



  I wanted AOL in general..I'm thinking of using their service.




Jim

    .144
    
    get their 800 number from 1-800-555-1212.  aol will send you a free
    disk for your mac or peecee.

    If I remember correctly they (Donner-Breens) were not very far (less
    the 75 miles I think) from help. Some people tried to get them supplies
    but thought they were further away than they actually were.
    
    I`m sorry if I`m booring you about the Donners but I`ve waited for 9
    months for someone to ask me...
    
    About that shot glass...I wouldn`t drink any alcohal from it because I
    don`t know if that paint or what ever it may be might come off.

    > anybody out there watch the new comedy "women of the house" starring
    > delta burke???
    
    Hmmm. If it stars Delta Burke maybe they should have named the series
    "Woman _Is_ The House". :-) :-) :-)
    
    -b

>    If I remember correctly they (Donner-Breens) were not very far (less
>    the 75 miles I think) from help. Some people tried to get them supplies
>    but thought they were further away than they actually were.
 

   Heck, they were just a couple miles from the Interstate! ;-)



   
  Jim

    >> About that shot glass...I wouldn`t drink any alcohal from it because I
    >> don`t know if that paint or what ever it may be might come off.
    
    
    not a prob...most of them are for show, anyway....
    
    

    	What's the term for the amount of "profit" a government makes
    	by issuing stamps and coins?  (ie, it costs the government, say,
    	5 cents to "manufacture" a quarter, thus when they put it into
    	circulation they make 20 cents of this "profit".)

re: .125

Thanks, MadMike - thass the one I was after.

    I was wondering if some kind bloke(s) or blokess(es) :-) could provide
    me with a bit of information. I'm looking for the name of large
    computer/software retailers in the UK and Down Under... with phone
    numbers if you happen to have them. I'm looking for stores that sell
    mass quantities of CD-ROM titles. Any information would be most
    appreciated. Email to MPGS::MARKEY, or (on Internet)
    bmarkey@world.std.com would be most appreciated!
    
    -b

    
    
    hey...does anybody out there own one of those "little green clean
    machines" by bissel???  or know anyone that has one??  i am just
    wondering how well they do what they are supposed to...
    
    
    
    

    
    
    Raq,
    
    My cousin, Jen, has one that she uses in her housecleaning
    business.  She really likes it.  I remember her raving about
    it shortly after her purchase.
    
    Terrie
    

| <<< Note 13.135 by AIMHI::JMARTIN "Barney:Card Holding Member of NAMBLA" >>>

| I was told there is a show called "Friends" on Tuesday and Thursday evenings. 
| I have had five different people approach me to tell me there is a guy on 
| the show who looks just like me!!!  I'M A CELEBRITY!!!!

	Now that you mention it Jack, he does look like a YOUNGER version of
you. His wife left him on the show as she came out as a lesbian. :-)

	I did see the Delta Burke show. I almost shut it off as it was really
bad in the beginning. But when she was going on Crossfire, I had to watch. From
that point on the show got much much better. It was pretty funny when she went
before the House to speak. And her apologizing for the size of her hair, as in
not being big enough, was GREAT!


Glen

    
    Terrie:  your cousin has a housecleaning business?  Any openings for
    new customers 8^)?
    
    

    .156
    
    > GREAT!
    
    different strokes for different folks, i guess.  wife ran her tape of
    the delta burke thing last night.  i came in at the crossfire part, so
    i didn't hear/see the "really bad" beginning, but if what i saw was
    less bad than that, then for petesake will somebody please take out a
    contract on suzanne sugarbaker.  what i saw was tasteless, crude, and
    vacuous.

     >what i saw was tasteless, crude, and vacuous.
    
     Crap! You know what that means, don't you? It will be popular. :-/

    yes, doctah, i know.

    
    
    RE: Ms. Deb.....Jen has several openings...unfortunately,
    she only works in Needham, Wellesly, Sherborn, Dover, Watertown,
    and West Roxbury, or she'd be doing my place too.  :*)
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    Darn.  Ever since Esco left the box, I haven't been able to get anyone
    to mop my floors nekkid 8^).
    
    Er, not that I'd ask you cousin to do that, mind you!

    mopping floors nekid?????? hmm maybe, painted my apartment in the buff
    once.  heck I hear that them womin's that clean houses topless make
    good money.
    

    I think if I was going to mop floors for someone, I'd insist we were
    both naked! :-)
    
    -b

My butt's not quite hairy enough for it to be of any help to be nekkid when
mopping floors.

    
    Why, um, thank you for sharing that with us, john!
    	     	

	John, your hair could make a good mop!

    Come on, give Delta a break.....you were expecting high drama perhaps?
    
    I thought the funniest part of the Crossfire interview was when she
    dropped the mike into her cleavage :-)
    

    
    
    anybody out there watch the tv-movie 'family divided' last nite???
    
    i have a question...
    
    

	discuss

    
    well Glen, people in my department think it's a good idea to keep me
    sedated, as they think that helps out employee morale in the group.
    I don't know if the law agrees with this, but they are happy about it.
    
    FWIW
    
    Mark

    
    Piss poor attempt at an Ahernism, Glen.
    
    

    Yha mean I can get prozac for nuthin?

	wannamoney, I ain't into that scene ya talk about. 

    For those of you who have expressed an interest in the saga of
    the Patrick Moraz concert, check out note #699 in MR1PST::MUSIC
    
    -b

    
    
    >>>Dynamic memory exhausted
    
    ...when opening ::classifieds...
    
    why???
    
    

    
    
    	sounds like somebody's mucking with the system...
    
    
    

Raq,

It's a problem with HUMANE.  Last night I put a note in a private notesfile
the system mangler reads.  Hopefully it will be fixed this morning.

Bob

    it's been fixed.  sort of.  you can get into notesfiles on humane, but
    omigawd are they ever slow.

    <har har>

    Okay, who took the lid off the cat box?
    
    

    Who the hell are you?
                         What is this topic all about,are you scared to
    tell us your name.

    Actually, the phantom can be found.  I can determine the phantomes very
    location through the system...pole numbers and everything!!
    
    Aaaahahaaaaaaaaa

    Now now, CMT is nothing to get upset about.  In fact, I am ashamed of
    you all.  Since CMT is unwilling to divulge their true identitiy it is
    our historical duty to assign her/him/them one.  There should plenty of
    witty and clever things we can imagine CMT to stand for.  Here, I'll
    start.  
    
    Cleverly Masquerading Twinky 
    
    Okay everyone, join in the fun while it lasta as CMT is leaving soon.  
    
    Brian  

    
    Folks.... if you just ignore him, he/she will go away....

He did.  Base note's gone.

    kacked thur pants

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Germany
============================================================
Germany - Consular Information Sheet
 February 10, 1995

Country Description:  Germany is a stable democracy with a modern 
economy.  Tourist facilities throughout Germany are highly developed 
with the exception of some areas in eastern Germany.

Entry Requirements: A passport is required.  no tourist or business 
visa is required for stays of up to 90 days.  For detailed 
information concerning entry requirements for Germany, travelers may 
contact the German Embassy at 4645 Reservoir Road N.W., Washington, 
D.C. 20007, telephone (202) 298-4000, or the German Consulates 
General in Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Houston, Los Angeles, 
Miami, New York or Seattle.

Medical Facilities: Excellent medical care is widely available with 
some facilities in eastern Germany more limited.  Doctors and 
hospitals may expect immediate payment in cash for health services.  
U.S. medical insurance is not always valid outside the United 
States.  Travelers have found that, in some cases, supplemental 
medical insurance with specific overseas coverage has proven to be 
useful.  Further information on health matters can be obtained from 
the Centers for Disease Control's international travelers hotline at 
(404) 332-4559.

Crime Information: Germany has a low rate of violent crime.  Crimes 
such as burglary, petty theft, and narcotics trafficking are 
increasing but not dramatically.  Pickpocketing and purse snatching 
occur in urban areas, particularly on public transportation and in 
crowded department stores, train stations, and other areas 
frequented by tourists.  Travelers should therefore take normal 
precautions to safeguard their valuables, money, and credit cards.  
Major cities have certain sections where crime rates are higher.  
These areas are normally easily identifiable, and can be avoided.

The loss or theft abroad of a U.S. passport should be reported 
immediately to local police and the nearest U.S. Embassy or 
Consulate.  The Department of State's pamphlet "A Safe Trip Abroad" 
contains information on safeguarding valuables and promoting 
personal security.  It can be obtained from the Superintendent of 
Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402.

Extremist Activities: There are a small number of right- and 
left-wing extremist groups active in Germany.  Right-wing groups 
have staged violent but isolated demonstrations and attacks, the 
majority of which have been directed against foreigners or ethnic 
minorities.  Most such acts are perpetrated spontaneously, often by 
persons under the influence of alcohol.  Extremists, often 
displaying unpredictable behavior, should be avoided.  Although 
Americans have not generally been targets, they could become 
inadvertently involved in spontaneous demonstrations.

Terrorist Activities: Although Germany is a possible venue for 
transnational terrorism, present activities of various terrorist 
elements in Germany are not perceived to pose a direct threat to 
Americans at this time.

Drug Penalties: U.S. citizens are subject to the laws of the 
country in which they are traveling.  Penalties for possession, use, 
or trafficking in illegal drugs in Germany are strict, and convicted 
offenders can expect jail sentences and fines.

Registration: Americans may obtain updated information on travel 
and security within Germany from the Consular Section of the U.S. 
Embassy or any of the U.S. consulates.  The U.S. Embassy's toll-free 
24-hour hotline in Germany on crime, security, and information on 
demonstrations may be accessed by dialing 0130-826364.

Embassy and Consulate Locations:

U.S. Embassy Bonn: Deichmanns Aue 29; tel:(49-228) 3391.
Embassy Office Berlin:  Neustaedtische Kirchstrasse 4-5; tel 
(49-30) 238-5174;
Consular Section Berlin:  Clayallee 170; tel: (49-30)832-9233.

U.S. Consulates General are located at:

Dusseldorf: Kennedydamm 15-17, tel.: (49-211) 431709;
Frankfurt: Siesmayerstrasse 21, tel:(49-69) 75350;
Hamburg: Alsterufer 27/28, tel:(49-40) 41171-351;
Munich: Koeniginstrasse 5, tel:(49-89) 2888-0;
Stuttgart: Urbanstrasse 7, tel:(49-711) 21008O;
Leipzig: Wilhelm-Seyfferth-Strasse 4, tel:(49-3) 213-8418.

The Consulates General in Dusseldorf, Stuttgart and Leipzig 
currently offer only emergency services to U.S. citizens.

 No. 95-025

This replaces the Consular Information Sheet dated October 24, 
1994, to add the Consulate General in Dusseldorf to the list of U.S. 
posts in Germany, note changes in post telephone numbers, and make 
minor amendments to the sections describing medical facilities, 
extremist activities, and drug penalties.

    
    Sounds ok to me. :-)
    
    They didn't mention the sorry notion of American tourists to
    concentrate on the souther parts of Germany. OK, the south has
    more wine, more castles, more Roman ruins and more Lederhosen. 
    But there's a lot to see in the North as well.
    
    I will concentrate on Schleswig-Holstein, Niedersachsen (Lower-Saxony),
    Hamburg and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern in the following replies.
    
    
    Your friendly tourist information centre
    	Heiko

    
    Hamburg
    
    	Germany's second biggest city. (1.8 mio)
    
    	Home of the Thalia Theater and the Schauspielhaus, two of
    	Germany's top 5 theatres. Thalia produced the "Black Rider",
    	script by C.Burroughs, music T.Waits, director P.(?) Wilson.
    
    	Home of FC St.Pauli soccer team. 
    
    	Hamburg is (was) Germany's gate to the world. One of Europe's
    	biggest seaports. Once every two years the QEII comes in for a new
    	paint.

>    Schleswig-Holstein

Is that where the cows come from?

re         <<< Note 13.195 by MOLAR::DELBALSO "I (spade) my (dogface)" >>>

>>    Schleswig-Holstein
>
>Is that where the cows come from?

You could follow them when they go home, then you could tell everyone.


Chele

    
    and subs?

    subs ?

    No.
    
    For people in coastal areas it is life-threatening to let one's
    niveau sink below sea-level. :-)

Hey... does anybody know if coconut milk is full of calories???  I've been 
on a real Thai food kick lately and wonder if I'm fooling myself into 
thinking that it's not too bad fat/calorie wise!

High in cholesterol as well. "Tropical oils" (palm and coconut) are supposed
to be bad business.

    .203
    
    > High in cholesterol as well.
    
    No.  Cholesterol is present only in animal products; there is none in
    any vegetable product.  The particular problem with tropical oils is
    that they are very high in saturated fats, which appear to be worse for
    the body than unsaturated fats.

    
    RE: coconut milk...
     
     As Jack said... coconut "oil" is very high in saturated fat (86%).
    They don't usually put the fat content of the milk on the label, but
    there is a "lite" variety I know of that is 3 grams of fat per 2 oz.
    serving...
    
      I would suggest you stay away from coconut milk and oil...

    
    its at least as fattening as a kielbasa..

A nice Kielbasa sandwich on a buttered roll with a big glass of coconut
milk for lunch sounds good . . . 

    You forgot the mayo, Jack.

    
    
    <---------------------
    
    
    ON KIELBASA?????????????
    
    
      COSSAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:*((((   This makes me very sad..... I thought the spicy chicken/bamboo 
sprouts and coconut dish wasn't too bad  (although I did wonder about the 
milk)

    
    Chris.  Honey.  Stay AWAY from the coconut milk.  Don't you know that
    anything that tastes that good HAS to be bad for you?
    
    Coconut milk has 25 calories per tablespoon, and all 25 calories are
    from fat, saturated fat at that.
    
    Tom Ka is a dieter's nightmare 8^).

    Good Kielbasa demands homemade horseradish!!
    

    
    Exactly!!!!!!!
    
     White of course....
    
    
     :)
    

    Preferably homemade from a nice fresh root.  Just make sure you grate
    it outside.
    
    Dan

    You got that right Dan; ex's relatives always made their own.
    Couldn't even sit on the back porch with them while they were doing
    the grating......cleared up my sinuses though :-)
    

    
    we had kielbasa on easter...along with the ham and other goodies...oven
    baked...with that golden mustard...man, was that good...
    
    
    
    

    Never mind that....what do you think about religion???
    
    
    
    Just Kidding Just Kidding!!!!!!!!!

        Anyone happen to know the words to the oldie that starts
        something like...
        
        "He's just a gigolo ..."
        
        Thanks
        
        Andy
        

        
>>        "He's just a gigolo ..."

	thought it was "I'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go
	something something something something...etc."  ;>

    
    I'm just a gigolo
    And everywhere I go
    People know the part I'm playing...
    
    
    zat the one?
    

>    <<< Note 13.219 by PENUTS::DDESMAISONS "no, i'm aluminuming 'um, mum" >>>
        
>>        "He's just a gigolo ..."

>	thought it was "I'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go
>	something something something something...etc."  ;>
        
        Duuhh thanks  Di!   ;*) That's the problem I have;  remembering
        the "somethings". Not to mention the "etc"s ... ;*)
        
        Andy
        

    	I'm just a gigolo
    	and everywhere I go
    	people are talkin' about me.
    	Paid for every dance,
    	selling each romance,
    	oooh, what're they saying!
    
    	Something like that.

	seems like there's a "Life goes on without me."
	in there somewhere too.  near the end. ;>

    David Lee Roth.
    
    "But there will come a day
     When youth will pass away.
     What'll they say about me?
     When the end comes, I know,
     I'm just a gigolo.
     Life goes on without me."

    The late Peter Allen did a smashing rendition of Gigolo.
    
    

    Hum-bel-a-babe-el-a-zee-bel-a-babe-el-a-hum-bel-babe-el-zee-bel-a-bop!
    
    IIIIIIIIIIIII ain't got nobaaahhhdaaaay!
    
    Nobaaahday, cares for me, nobaaaahday cares for me......
    
    Aiiiee Aiiiee Aiiiee Aiiiee Aiiee Aiiee Aiiee'm so saaad and lonely!
    
    ........ 
    
    That one you mean?
    
    Onondaga

    Sad and lonely,
    Sad and lonely,
    Oh sweet mama come and take a chance with me,
    'Cause I ain't so bad.
    
    ME

I *know* I've got a copy of the DLR version in the car.... do you *really* 
want me to transcribe it over lunch?   Can do if it's important....

    Remind me when it gets to 2345.... That will be food time (at last).

    
    Martin...you can go eat now if you want...tell them I said it was okay.
    

 I'll leave that to someone else...time for me to hit the sack...



 Buenos noches


 Haime

    re .230
    
    Ta !!!!

    Jimbo... you lightweight !!! Yuk Yuk !!! Real men only need about 
    2 hours sleep.. :*)

Ten more minutes, Martin.

    yeah yeah......

    Ohhhh forget it... I'm a hungry !!! See ya later folks !!!

    Jaime, with a J.  

 Whoops..

                                                
    Yes, it's me again.
    
    ****************************************************************************
    			Groton-Littleton Theatre 
    
    				Presents...

			      The Odd Couple 
    			     (female version)
                             
    			       by Neil Simon
    
    
  	
		Friday and Saturday May 12, 13, 19, and 20 at 8:00pm
			and a matinee Sunday May 14 at 2:00p
    
				Shattuck School Theater
				Rts 2A-110, Shattuck St
				     Littleton, MA
        		      Information: (508) 486-4159
			Wheelchair accessible / Excellent parking
        
    				Ticket prices at the door:
    					Adults $10
    				    Students/Seniors $8
    
    				***********************
    				* Tickets in advance  *
    				* from cast & crew:   *
    				* Adults $9           *
    				* Students/Seniors $7 *
    				***********************
	                  
    Feel free to call me at DTN 223-8559 or POWDML::LAUER for tickets.  I
    will be glad to mail or hand-deliver tickets (well, within reason 8^)).
                                                      
    ****************************************************************************
    
    What a nice way to spend Friday or Saturday evening if you just happen
    to be in town for the Wannemacher Bash!
    
    8^)
    

Do the tickets include a free flight to get over there?  If so, you
can find me in the corner above the canteen, first floor, RHC.  :)

Chris.

    
    are you one of the stahs?

    
    I'm playing Olive, who is the female version of Oscar (typecasting to
    be sure).  I guess you could say I'm one of the stahs 8^).
    
    Gonna be in town, rahhoney?  No singing this time.

    
    
    and andy just might be able to stay awake for this one... ;> :>
    
    
    

    
    
     "Female Version"???????????
    

    
    Wake up, Andy 8^)!
    
    Neil Simon rewrote it so that the main characters are women rather than
    men.  So the two versions are called "The Odd Couple" and "The Odd
    Couple (female version)".
    
    

    
    Neil Simon..... he some sort of ball player???
    

    
    
    and andy.....like she said...no singing!!!  :> :>
    
    
    (having helped mz_deb rehearse...i must say, this sounds like a funny
    play....)
    
    

    If I was in town,Luvvie,I would pop in ans see your absolutely
    marrrrvelous performance darling.
    
    

    
    Right then, who took over Stu's account?

    Stu's evil mirror twin, Uts.

    
    and I John, will gladly pay you on Tuesday, for a hamburger today

    Wake up folks....e snot bedtime yet !

Things to do, though Martin. Things to do.

    Yeah me too ! I think they call it.... Woark ?? (sp?)
                                            

<---did you pull the phone out from your butt yet?

    Errr no, it kinda flew out !!

<---farting real hard will do that

    akachully the monkeys got kinda <r.o> off with it.

Possibly they weren't enjoying an enforced conference call.....


Chele

    You guys work at Bell Labs?

 Is there a boxer in the Atlanta area who would be interested (and would
 follow through on such interest) in sending me an apartment guide or some
 such info?  If yes, please send mail..




 Thanks


 Jim

    Live in Doroville Jimbo, fantastic apartments. 's where I lived for I
    while ! best fing is the massive living areas some have !!!!

    Doraville?  I think we lived when I was a munchkin.  I recall it was on
    Dunover Circle and I went to Peachtree Elementary.  Of course, half the
    schools in Georgia must have been named Peachtree.
    
    Then we moved to Duluth, and I attended B.B. Harris Elementary.  We
    used to go to the pool in Lawrenceville; that was a good facility. 
    (Four pools -- baby, kids (up to 3' deep or so), swimming, and diving.)

Dunover Circle?  Near Sharron Valley court, Dunkerren Lane, and Ledgewood Drive,
right?

    
    	Show-off!!  8^)
    

Fiddling with DeLorme's Street Atlas USA, /john?

    
    anagram:   a rag, man.
    

    Re: .266
    
    Actually, I have no idea.  Local geography was not my strong suit at
    that age, but then, Mom and Dad did all the driving.  We had a "swamp" 
    behind the house, and we crossed the creek to get to school.  After
    about two houses to the left, the street curved and went up a big hill.

re .268

I've been found out.

:^)

    Gee Chels, do you ever remember going thru beautiful downtown
    Buford on your way to Lake Lanier?
    
    

    Nope.  Which isn't to say we didn't do it, it's just that I don't
    remember any town names except the ones I mentioned.  (Well, Atlanta,
    of course, but that's a city.)  Actually, I'm not positive it's
    Doraville.  I remember DeKalb County.  And then Duluth was in Gwinnett
    County.  (And the signature of Button Gwinnett is a major collectors
    item, there being only a handful of them.)

    You weren't far away Chels; when I want to take a "back road" 
    into work I hit the outskirts of Duluth (pronounced DOOluth by
    the locals) before I pass out of Gwinnett into North Fulton
    County.
    
    All those areas were marvelously rural when I first moved to
    Georgia, but those days are long gone.  One subdivision after
    another; after the Olympics are over I fear the area will never
    be the same.
    
    

    Anyone know what's up with node OPS5?  I keep getting a "network
    partner excited" message when I try to open the golf conference.

    Bill

  I'm driving to Paterson NJ from NH next Sunday.  I usually go down 95 but
 would like to avoid that..what's another way to go? 





 Jim

    
    What, you usually go down the Cross Bronx and over the GW?  Try going
    west on the pike to 84/86 and down thru Hartford and over the, um, oh
    gosh, what is that, the Verrazano Narrows? 

    Jim:
    
    Get on the Mass Turnpike and take the Sturbridge exit (Exit 9 Rt. 84).
    Take 84 to 684 (Around Danbury) South to 287 West.  Follow 287...go over 
    the Tappen Zee Bridge to Garden State Pkwy South.  Get off exit 161...head 
    on 208 West.  From there take 4 West right into Paterson.  Promptly place 
    an Atom bomb in the center of the city and quickly leave!!!
    
    -Jack

But all the streets in Paterson are one-way in the opposite direction from the
way you want to go.

    Network partner excited?
    
    Hmmmm.

    
>    What, you usually go down the Cross Bronx and over the GW?  Try going
>    west on the pike to 84/86 and down thru Hartford and over the, um, oh
>    gosh, what is that, the Verrazano Narrows? 


  Yeah...its been a couple years since I drove down there, but that's the
  way I usually go.



 Jim

    
>    Get on the Mass Turnpike and take the Sturbridge exit (Exit 9 Rt. 84).
>    Take 84 to 684 (Around Danbury) South to 287 West.  Follow 287...go over 
>    the Tappen Zee Bridge to Garden State Pkwy South.  Get off exit 161...head 
>    on 208 West.  From there take 4 West right into Paterson.  Promptly place 
>    an Atom bomb in the center of the city and quickly leave!!!
    
 
   
   Can I get on I-80 off the GSP?  I can get to my brother's place much easier
   off of 80.



  Jim

    
    The Tappan Zee, the Tappan Zee.  Not the Verrazano Narrows.  I'm sorry. 
    It's been years since I've been that way.  I much prefer the Cross
    Bronx - better graffiti 8^).

I can't see how anyone, even a network partner, could be excited about golf.

    Not sure about that Jim.  I just know that my directions will provided
    you better access to the Center of the City so'st you can leave the
    Abomb!
    
    -Jack

>             <<< Note 13.286 by COVERT::COVERT "John R. Covert" >>>

>I can't see how anyone, even a network partner, could be excited about golf.
        
        Doesn't make your putter flutter then, John?
        
        Nor mine  I  might  add.  Any game which involves putting one's
        balls on a small peg in the ground and then smacking 'em with a
        golf bat is not for me, thank you.
        

 Well, I reckon I could check the map.  Fortunately this won't be a long
 stay in Paterson..pop in late Sunday morning, head out early Monday
 hopefully getting home in time to play softball.




 Jim

Jim, yes, you can get directly to I-80 from GSP at Saddlebrook. That's
the way I always go to PA. I'd take 91 so from Hartford, though, picking
up 95 at New Haven to 287 at Port Chester and then go TappanZee-GSP
instead of the 84/684 route - it always seems to go a lot quicker for
me. When I used to use 684, I even tried to bypass as much of that as
I could by using the SMP.

    An alternative route however, is to drive accross the US until reaching
    the Pacific. Then Head in a south westerly direction towards the tip of
    Northern Australia (avoid the sharks), on arrival, head for Cairns,
    then you may have a quick break for some light refreshments, then drive
    south following the signs for Sydney. Once you arrive in Sydney follow
    the signs for Rhodes, then find the Digital building located in said
    suburb, go directly to reception ask for me, take me to the oub, buy me
    a beer and then follow the above directions back to arrive at your
    destination no later than 06-15-96.

    byu the way the oub is a pub, I just coudn't spell for a while !

    Wow, good thing I live in Canada. {phew}

    {yawnnnn}

    <--- Ooo, nice dental work.

    Ta !!! %*)

    MODS !! Please delete the whole thing ! :*)

    This is getting silly !! :*)
    
    {psst delete 414.8}

Scilly? Isle say!

Chele

    <-- yeah well you would ! 
    
    %^)

What was all that about?

Chris.

    newts

	Gee, by the title I thought it was another note about religion!

I thought it was a notice of free scrap wood.  Shipping pallets are some of
the best firewood.


Phil

    Keep yer nose oot Hedley ! :*)

    You what !

    
    The man has a knicker fetish, face it!

>    The man has a knicker fetish, face it!

yeah, so?  Nuffink wrong with that... :)

Chris.

        Re "face  it"  -  in regard to the knicker fetish, I understand
        that that's precisely what those with that fetish do ...
        
        &y
        

    thank you for sharing

    
    Yes, I'm billboarding 8^).  We open tonight.  The theatre is very close
    to LKG and the Yangtze River; in the same building as the Reuben Hoar      
    library.  Head west on 2A from LKG and take the right fork down
    Shattuck Street.
    

    ****************************************************************************
    			Groton-Littleton Theatre 
    
    				Presents...

			      The Odd Couple 
    			     (female version)
                             
    			       by Neil Simon
    
    
  	
		Friday and Saturday May 12, 13, 19, and 20 at 8:00pm
			and a matinee Sunday May 14 at 2:00p
    
				Shattuck School Theater
				Rts 2A-110, Shattuck St
				     Littleton, MA
        		      Information: (508) 486-4159
			Wheelchair accessible / Excellent parking
        
    				Ticket prices at the door:
    					Adults $10
    				    Students/Seniors $8
    
    				***********************
    				* Tickets in advance  *
    				* from cast & crew:   *
    				* Adults $9           *
    				* Students/Seniors $7 *
    				***********************
	                  
    Feel free to call me at DTN 223-8559 or POWDML::LAUER for tickets.  I
    will be glad to mail or hand-deliver tickets (well, within reason 8^)).
                                                      
    ****************************************************************************

    I have a Walkman CD player that is showing a no disc error even though
    there is a disk installed in the unit.  Anyone care to venture a guess
    at what might be causing this?  I have it apart now more to do an
    autopsy than actually try to repair it.  If by some miraculous
    circumstance, someone else in here knows the inner secrets of Sony CD
    players, a pointer would be helpful.  Otherwise, it is off to the local
    purveyor of CD players for a replacement.  
    
    Brian

    
    	Hopefully you tried to blast the lens off with some compressed
    	air before going too far with the autopsy.
    
    	Could be that simple.
    

re: Brian

Is it a Culture Club or Village People CD?

    Neither I'm afraid.  It was the sounds of the 70's that I couldn't get
    to play initially and then I knew I was in touble when I sliped in
    Zamfir and it too wouldn't spin up.  

Have you run fsck on the CD?

Chris.

    Shawn,
    
    No blast of compressed air available.  The lens assembly won't seek on
    spin up.  I tried to clean it with a kimwipe and screen cleaner.  Was
    this a bad thing you think?  It has been dragged around alot and dropped 
    more times than I care to admit so I am chalking it up to an accelerated 
    decrease in device life expectancy leading to premature failure.  It 
    provided yoeman service though while it lived.  
    
    Brian

>I tried to clean it with a kimwipe and screen cleaner.  Was
>this a bad thing you think?

probably not a groovy idea, as it may damage the lens coating...

Chris.

    Too late, wnet out and bought a new one.  Kind of like when your doggie
    died when you were a kid and dad brought home a new puppy the next day,
    but different.  
    
    Brian
    

    
    	I think the Kim-wipe is OK, but I wouldn't use the screen cleaner.
    
    	Lens tissue is probably better than the Kim-wipes, though, if
    	there's a next time.
    
    	What'd you buy?
    

    Bought a Sony D <sumpthing or other> with ESP.  Not fancy but will fare
    better in the car until I get the changer installed.  
    
    

>    Bought a Sony D <sumpthing or other> with ESP.

If it's got ESP, you'd best be careful with the Zamfir.

    I don't even have to turn it on to hear ther magical, lilting melodies
    of the pan flute.  Life's little pleasures are the most cherished,
    sigh....  

    Now listen....  Zamfir is an Inspired Artistic Talent.  He could
    out-music that beloved-in-Europe, blonde piano player with one lung
    tied behind his back.  If you don't stop sarcasticking him immediately,
    I'll be forced to report you to K-Tel.
    

 He's not as good as that guy that whistles though.

    Beloved-in-Europe Slim Whitman?

    
    	Slim Whitman isn't a blond.
    
    	Richard Clayderman is, though.
    

    
    	Wise guy ... I'll show you!!  8^)
    

    Yes, Richard Clayderman is the blonde piano player who's beloved
    in Europe.
    
    Slim Whitman is the not-blonde yodeler who's "sold more records
    than Elvis" in Europe.
    
    And Zamfir is still the king in my book.
    

    Ahhhhh, another fan.  There's a new one coming out as he tries to break
    into mainstream mucic.  He will produce a whole slew of tribute albums
    to rock bands.  Zamfir Does Led Zeppelin, Zamfir Does Motley Crue,
    Zamfir Does the Doors will be the first three out.  I feel like a kid
    in October knowing Christmas is close but oh so far away.  

    Re: .332
    
    I take it you've never studied French.

    You can take it that I was too damn lazy to consult my
    dictionary, if that helps ease the pain.
    
    If I would only learn to use my power for good.
    

    All of this Xamfear talk troubles me.

    If you were European, it wouldn't bother you.
    

    And Slim Whitman should have been muzzled years ago.
    
    
    joan

    {look of horror!}    ;^)

    
    Slim Whitman sucks. Hope this helps.
    
    Boxcar Willie, however, rules.

    Slim is an Inspired Artiste and a damn fine yodeler.
    
    Granted, he's no Zamfir....
    

    
    I thought Slim Whitman died a few years ago.  

    reports of his demise were greatly exaggerated, unfortunately.

    
    Gesundheit!!!!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    .344
    
    Bitte?

| <<< Note 14.2179 by OUTSRC::HEISER "Maranatha!" >>>


| Most of the time, our initial statements are our true gut reactions.

	And if there is a problem 3/4 of the time like has been stated, one has
to wonder why you go with a gut reaction when it is wrong? Should someone who
claims they are a Christian be doing that? I think not. Ask what the other
person means. 

| Asking questions just gives you the chance to spin doctor and back peddle.

	Wow.... is that the excuse you use when you're proven wrong? How nice.

    
    RE: .2175
    
    This is SOAPBOX after all, Mark...
    
    You want me to go against the grain???
    
    
      Besides, I tried that once and was threatened with being reported to
    personnel...
    

>	It is until one reads what has been written. Remember, I'm not the only
>one who noticed it. 
    
    You have 1 person come to your defense, while a whole conference and
    another small group in here says otherwise.  Your assertions are
    baseless.

| <<< Note 14.2180 by NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085" >>>


| From the neck up you are.

	Hey hey hey!!!!!!  That ain't true. The rocks keep it far from empty!

| <<< Note 14.2182 by SOLVIT::KRAWIECKI "Be vewy caweful of yapping zebwas" >>>


| Besides, I tried that once and was threatened with being reported to personnel

	When was this Andy..... and be truthful now.... 

>	And if there is a problem 3/4 of the time like has been stated, one has
>to wonder why you go with a gut reaction when it is wrong? Should someone who
>claims they are a Christian be doing that? 
    
    I can't speak for you.  Let us know when you come up with a better
    answer.

| <<< Note 14.2183 by OUTSRC::HEISER "Maranatha!" >>>

| >	It is until one reads what has been written. Remember, I'm not the only
| >one who noticed it.

| You have 1 person come to your defense, while a whole conference and
| another small group in here says otherwise.  Your assertions are baseless.

	This coming from a man who stated most of the time people jump out with
their gut reactions... your own words hang you Mike....


Glen

| <<< Note 14.2186 by OUTSRC::HEISER "Maranatha!" >>>

| >	And if there is a problem 3/4 of the time like has been stated, one has
| >to wonder why you go with a gut reaction when it is wrong? Should someone who
| >claims they are a Christian be doing that?

| I can't speak for you.

	I gotta frame this note for future use. So the next time you come out
with a gut reaction.....

     
    So Di... .2175 in News briefs was not worthy to come along to your new
    note?
    
      Goderators exempt or what?
    
     Would have been much better to delete the whole lot rather than
    satisfy your hissy fit with mod privs...
    

  14 is the News Briefs topic.  

  HTH, Andrew, but I doubt it will.

    
    Thank you, Di.
    

    
    re: .11
    
    
    So are we to expect you to correct every rat-hole in every topic so it
    stays on course?
    
      A good one to start would be the last 15+ responses in the Mickey
    Mantle/who gets the liver note...
    
    
      Go get em Di!!!!
    

    
    Cripes, Andy, chill!

John Hartford Connecticut?
John Denver Colorado?
Tony Orlando Florida?
Janis Joplin Missouri?
Michael Jackson Mississippi?

Shouldn't that be Fats Domino Can-Republic?

    Dr. Detroit Michigan
    Jefferson Davis California
    Winston Churchill Downs
    Jack London England
    Mr Topaz Ring
     

Hey, this is supposed to be about singers!

John Lennon Grad.

Grover Washington D.C.
Melissa Manchester New Hampshire
Wayne Newton Massachusetts
Miss Peggy Lee Massachusetts

    
    
    David Bowie Maryland

    
    	Sorry, Jack, no points since the title of the song was already
    	posted.  88^)
    
    	And the rest of you are really close ... you've used every letter
    	of her name at least once, just not in the right order.
    

    Bryan Adams Massachusetts

Paul Anka Ra-Turkey

    Bobby Vinton Iowa

    Ray Charles Maryland

    
    Dionne Warwick(e) Rhode Island

    
    Don Henley-on-Thames England
               

    Agent 99, South Carolina
    
    tHERE IS A CITY CALLED 99.

Why not.  There's an 84, Pennsylvania.

    Bing Crosby North Dakota

    Janet Jackson Michigan
    Randy Traverse City Michigan
    Ahab the Arab Alabama 
    Twitty, Conway New Hampshire
    

    Eddy Arnold Missouri

    Phil Collins Mississippi

 Chevy Chase Maryland

    
    Michael Bolton Massachusetts
    Bassey, Shirley Massachusetts
    

    Rick Springfield Mass.
    
    This is getting boring!

    Petula Clark New Jersey

    
    Glenn Richardson Texas

    
    
    He a ballplayer or sumthin?

    
    Whitney Houston Texas

    Pink Floyd Virginia

    Please guys...this is getting ridiculousssReggie Cleveland, Ohio
    
    Great...now I'm doing it!!!

    
    	Repeat!!
    

    Jerry Lee Lewis New York

    
    Good thing this isn't the News Briefs note!!!
    
    You people would really be in trouble!!!!
    

	Unlike what occurred in the News Briefs topic, the
	readership hasn't complained about it yet.

	

    I can't believe anyone would be dumb enough to play this stupid game
    
    Janet Reno, Nevada
    
    ...Tom

    Janet has a new CD out?!?

    Del Shannon Pennsylvania

    James Brown Wisconsin

    
    Donna Fargo North Dakota
    

    some of us gave up complaining about moronic behavior to the morons
    involved when we were in grade school.
    
    I personally tend to spend less time in venues characterized by such
    behavior.
    
    DougO

    Lonely isn't it.

 Sam Francisco California

    Frank Zappa Antarctica

 L. Segundo California

 Whatdid Delaware

 Idunno Alaska

    
    
    She wore a New Jersey.
                              
    Sorry, Iowa big apology for that.

 No prob..can I buy you a minisoda?

    
    
    dick greeley colorado
    
    

> No prob..can I buy you a minisoda?

idaho, alaska

    <--- Hawaii doin'?

    
    	OK
    

    What do you Maine by that?

 I'll ask Texas soon as I see him.

    Nevada you mind.

 Just testing PCNotes on my new 486.

 Coooooool.

 Indeed.

    is that elegant as in well-filigreed  but still recognizable
    buggywhippery, or elegant as in "omigod, I totally forgot that it's a
    buggywhip, I thought it was a light-saber!"?
    

    
    well I hear and obey my young jedi master, as I am just a pupil.

    
    > well I hear and obey my young jedi master, as I am just a pupil.
    
    "Young" Kalikow,.... Really... I never knew...
    
    ;-)
    Dan

    Yeah, kinda like the Young Indiana Jones.

    Hey, I ain't dead yet!!  (like River Phoenix is, who played the young
                              Indy in "IJ&theLastCrusade!")
    
    Nonetheless, I yam burnt, and found out as a dodderer.  At least I
    ain't a wrinkled retainer.
    
    Yet.
    

    
    well Dr Dan, it gives you something to look forward to. :-)

    
    > Hey, I ain't dead yet!!

    Can you prove this?  Three or four women would probably be enough
    references, provided of course that there experiences with you were
    moderately recent..... ;->

    :-)
    Dan

    Ah bleev ah can prove that report of mah demize are greatly
    exaggerated...  MSO_Baben, couldst vouch for me in your inimitable
    fashions?  
    
    |-{:-)
    

    
    <-- anyone wanna translate that??
    
    

    
    My latest experience with Dr.Dan was on Tuesday last, and quite a
    moving experience it was, yessirreebob.
                                           
    If that's dead, may all the men in my life be the same 8^).
    

    FIVE g's?
    
    That's a g per liter!
    
    Dang thing must do wheelies!
    
    So why isn't my 2.2 liter giving me 2.2 g's?
    
    :)
    
    (And when can I get a ride?)

    
    
    >>MzRaK
    
    yo, daniel...
    
    
    

    >    FIVE g's?
    
     Oh, the perils of a missing decimal point...
    

    
    > >>MzRaK
    > 
    > yo, daniel...

    Oh thank god it wasn't me this time !

    For a second there I was having a flashback.... ;-)

    Dan

    Yo Killoran, you sound like the synsytyve kid who was taken to school
    on his first day by his mom, who explained to the kindergarten teacher
    that "He is very synsytyve, so if he does anything wrong, just hit the
    kid next to him, that'll make enough of an impression."
    
    I make this sacrifice for you, buddy... let's bond... 
    
    |-{:-)
    

    
> Those Of Our Readership who still languish in minivans
    
    I plead that the only reason is that I often have to cart three
    windsurfers, a quiver of 5 sails and associated booms, masts
    and fins.  
    
    So I can enjoy some real raw naked butt-kicking both feet on the
    rail total wipeout eat seawater speed.  

    Colin, I'd say that your excuse is all wet.

    Colin, in the future you would do better on the esteem scale to refer
    to your suburban grocery getter/urchin chaser as a highly specialized 
    shoreline assault sport vehicle as opposed to Dr. Dan's UV capable 
    mid-life pacification device and babe transport vehicle.  

    TLS :== TransLightSpeed, but UltraViolet??
    
    MLPD :== Mid-Life Pacification Device :== :-)
    
    |-{:-)
    

    >to your suburban grocery getter/urchin chaser as a highly specialized 
    >shoreline assault sport vehicle 
    
     In my family we call it Betsy's car. ;-)

    
    It may work.  But what about when the amount of equipment reaches the
    point where I need a Mack truck? 

    UV capable refers to it sporting a convertible top thus allowing a
    generous helping of ultra violet light to bombard the occupants among
    other things. 
    
    Colin, when the amount of equipment reaches the proportions where a
    tractor trailer is required, call it the official factory race team
    mobile equipment depot :-).
    
    Brian 

    Anyone know how to refile an early version .prt UG file to version 9
    and would be willing to share that info?  :-/   

    I am here to voice my complaint.  
    
    
    
    Mr. Topaz has insulted Mr. Ru and I find his cretin attacks totally
    unacceptable.  

    Don Topaz has attacked Crete?  Taramasoulata! 

Tiramisu is better.

    
    Souvlaki, yum 8^q.
    
    

    e retsina, parakalo!

    yeah, good old retsina, that industrial solvent...

    Lacks poseur names to drop?
    

    names, shmames. It's all in the taste.

    Never figgered out how the Greeks got to love turpentine-taste.  Must
    be something in the imprinting.  Spigot next to mother's milk, p'raps.
    

    
    It is baffling. It just seems to form part of of the melange of
    smells & tastes of Greece.  One sip, and I can smell the sun-scorched
    earth, the wild herbs, lamb grilled on a spit, the donkey crap...
    
    Cont. on page 93.
       

Ah yes. The Piraeus waterfront. Retsina, ouzo, lamb with interesting
seasonings, cooked on pushcarts by street vendors... dark eyes and black
hair...

     I don't like ouzo either, I suppose that makes me snobbish as well.

    People...People!  
    
    
    I voice a complaint but a Cretin named Mr. Topaz...and I get 20 replies
    of nonsensical doggeral.
    
    
    I did it as a lark...
    
    
    Get out of your parents basements...
    
    
    Get a life people!

    
    > I don't like ouzo either, I suppose that makes me snobbish as well.
    
    No you're not.  I was tetchy, tetchy, tetchy this morning.

    .458
    
    > I was tetchy...
    
    Slug back some ouzo.  That'll fix it.

    
    Ouzo is for people with taste.  I drink Raki. 

    bluuuuuurg.

    
    Ooh, I like ouzo 8^q.
    
    

Arak.  Available at the duty-free shop at Lod Airport for $2.50 a bottle
(at least that was the price 2 years ago).

    Arak is available stateside.  It was/is a favorite pre-race beverage
    aboard one memorable boat.  A team nip may not have made us any faster
    but it was more fun. 

I know arak is available here, but not at $2.50 a bottle.  More like $12.50.

    Sorry Gerald, I (mis)read your entry as being available exclusively at
    the Lod Aerodrome.  Something about not enough sleep. 
    

    
    
    'scuse me, but that's "a raq"...
    
    and i am not currently available... sorry... ;> :> ;>
    
    
    

Have you, Raq, considered visiting I Raq?

    Yes, I Ran there last year.  Why do you asq?
    

 Did they serve Turkey there?

	yes, but it was cooked in Greece.

    Served on China?

    
    but, was it served with Brussels sprouts?

    
    Is that Battis sprouting off again?

    
    This conversation is making me Hungary.
    
    

    
    er deb, will you be picking up the Czech?

Deb, if I were you, I'd take a Pole to see who is picking 
up that Czech!

    
    I'm available!!!!!
    

    
    arak tastes like JP-4

    
    <--------
    
    re: JP-4
    
    Never had the pleasure Robert...
    
    Would you be kind enough to tell us your opinion? Bouquet? Texture?
    Etc?

    
    oh, do i??
    
    

    -1 Then you don't know what you're missing :-)
    
    Seriously my former church in PA. spent a lot of time and money
    restoring our pipe organ for the church's centennial celebration.
    Unfortunately, it all was for naught when Hurricane Agnes dumped
    more rain on PA than it could handle; the church and organ were
    swept away.
    
    

re:             <<< Note 13.482 by COVERT::COVERT "John R. Covert" >>>

That's one 'ell of an organ. Is there a secular presentation of it going
to be scheduled?

>       I've never been to an organ dedication.

I'll bet you've been to a Brit.

    RE: .487
    
    I was a member of Worcester's All Saints Boys Choir for several
    years, until puberty and health problems conspired against me.
    A very very fine organization. One of the best experiences of
    my life, made all the better by Choirmaster Henry Hokins, who
    was also my piano/organ teacher and a huge influence on my
    love of classical vocal music.
    
    That Benjamin Britten piece is a dandy!! My best memory of
    All Saints was the production of Gustav Mahler's 8th, with
    the Boston Chorus Promusica and the BSO.
    
    I had some contact with the All Saints folks last year, but
    time conflicts got in the way of grand plans...
    
    -b

re: .487

Sounds good. I will try to make it.

    .487, .488
    
    Benjamin Britten ? The pooftah ?  
    
    I'll be celebrating All-Saints day with his music...also Freddy
    Mercury's.
    
    (^P

    
    
    RE: Organ dedication....nope, I'm not gonna say it... :*)
    

Beverly Hills 90210 Weekly Wrapup
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
09/13/95

by Daniel Drennan, Inquisitor Magazine

[Summary for First Hour]

So the name of this episode is "Home is Where the Tart Is" and it is
anyone's guess which tart they are refering to. I think they meant Brandon,
but I am not sure. Anyway, the show starts off with Kelly flying first class
back from New York, when this guy comes up from economy class, and asks
whether the seat next to Kelly is "taken"--like they are on public
transportation or something where the idea of boarding passes doesn't
exist--and Kelly is like "whatever" and the guy says, "I hate to fly alone"
and then asks Kelly whether she is going to LA for an audition, and you're
thinking "yeah, maybe it is a good idea that she should audition for the
part again" but she says, "no, I'm in school" to which he replies "what's
your major, driving men wild?" and instead of answering, "and WOMEN too!"
she just does her pouty mouth thing. And this annoying guy takes her hand,
and says, "you have incredible eyes" and, "your mouth is like a ripe
strawberry" which doesn't even make Kelly puke her guts out, and the man
sitting across the aisle is getting all horndog and is staring at them, and
the boy says, "you know about the Mile High Club?" which has to be the
stupidest concept in the history of humankind--like the idea of doing it in
a closet-sized toilet where you don't even have enough room to do what
you're supposed to be doing in there in the first place is about as
unappealing as anything I can imagine--and so he goes off to the bathroom
and Kelly sits there meanwhile all the people around her are like
horndoggedly staring at her and so she gets up and goes to the bathroom
where they burst out laughing at the "good job of faking it" that they did.
And they start to do it for real, but they waited until the approach to the
airport and so had to call it off.

Then the opener starts, and David has a new "Chelsea boy" haircut, and
Claire is wearing sleeves that are SO TIGHT they are non-existent. And
whereas everyone else is standing normal when their credit appears, Claire
has her bare back facing the camera, while she looks over her shoulder. And
my theory now is that for some reason she is the last to get the attention
of the wardrobe ladies, and so has to wear what is left, which was left over
from Logan's Run in 1983.

So the next scene shows a black convertible tooling down the boulevard, and
it is Brandon, who was just given his license back after his drug bust in
Palm Springs in June. And he pulls into his driveway, and as he walks up to
his house he hears the sound of mourning doves, which I can't recall being
native to California, but they are probably more likely than owls, and in
any case it was the concept of the "lonely house bird noise" that they were
going with at this point. So he goes into his now-empty house, and you
realize that the interior is a really putrid pink color, like if a color
could rot or decay, and this pink was left out too long and started to rot,
that is the color that the inside of the house was. And he goes upstairs and
wonders something about who's been sleeping in papa bear's bed, and he gets
into bed, and then the covers next to him start to move and there is a girl
there. And she is naked, and she rolls on top of him and kisses him. And
instead of freaking out, he just says calmly, "what the hell are you doing
here?" and she starts kissing him again and he doesn't seem to mind because
he is pigdog Brandon, and then Val walks into the room, and being even more
of a pigdog just shakes her head and goes, "I thought I heard people in
here." And Brandon goes, "Hi, Val, I'm home!" and then he starts doing that
annoying fake laugh thing that he does, that "Heh heh heh heh" which is the
sound someone would make if they had some weird disease which prevented them
from actually laughing but they wanted to pretend that they were laughing
anyway, "heh heh heh heh" goes Brandon, as he recalls that the close of the
last show saw him kissing Val for like 20 minutes. And Val says, "This is my
friend Ginger" and Ginger says, "I guess I'll hit the showers" like how
totally skanky is that to say "I know we were just kissing and almost doing
it and everything, but I am not really *clean* right at this moment," and
then Val says, "If you would have called, I could have had her gift wrapped"
and Brandon, still popping a boner, just smiles his cheesy smile.

So then we are at Kelly's apartment, and she has like fifty suitcases, and
the cool artist boy has his shirt sleeves artfully rolled up out over his
suit sleeves in what has to be the most retarded fashion statement on this
show since Claire discovered flame-retardant polyester. And then we have to
suffer Kelly's really tiny mouth kissing him again, like she might need an
operation to allow her to open her mouth all the way, and he starts picking
on her sculpture and her painting choices, and Kelly instead of saying, "you
couldn't afford to buy any art if you wanted to" just says, "I'm sorry it
isn't fine art" and he goes, "it doesn't have to be fine, just original"
which is really, really, really, deep, and you kind of wish Kelly had the
po-mo balls to say, "there is no such thing as original art anymore" but she
didn't.

So then Claire comes waltzing into the room, and the peroxide job she did
last show has grown out into a Barbarella Jane Fonda shag, and her sleeves
must have been so tight that they slipped off and settled around her waist,
forming a really tight tiny mini skirt. And Kelly says, "this is my artist
friend", like you would ever introduce your friend prefaced by what they did
for a living, like you would ever say, "this is my coffee-shop worker
friend" or "this is my banker friend". And Claire starts to recite something
she read in an art magazine about him, like the only good thing Claire is
good at is memorizing stupid trivia, but even there she doesn't win on
Jeopardy. And Colin "Artist Boy" Robbin says "I'm impressed."

Next we are on a yacht, and Ray is pretending to know what he is doing, and
up pops Donna "migratory oculoparacraniosis" Martin, with a quasi-Dutchboy
looking hairstyle, and really pink lipstick, and really heavy eye-liner, and
tiny Barbie doll clothes on (and it is no wonder she won "worst-dressed" in
People magazine), bringing Ray something to drink. And she proceeds to tell
him that her dad thinks he is the "best first mate in the yacht club" which
must be a euphemism for something sordid, and they start kissing, and then
they reminisce about when Ray was a little shit and pushed her down the
stairs. And that turns Ray on so much that they start kissing again, and
Donna's dad comes up from below and says, "ahoy, maties" instead of, "quit
groping my daughter!" and he asks Ray if he wants to take her out (meaning
the boat) and Ray says, "chart a course and I'm there" and then Donna says,
"my dad really digs you" which makes you wonder about the "best first mate"
line all over again. And Ray says, "Your family has been so nice to me" and
"I'm trying to make up for what happened in Palm Springs" and Donna the
Human Doormat just kisses him again.

So then Valerie Hyphen-Name and Brandon are in their empty kitchen and Val
asks him about Boston and Brandon says that "he ate a lot of lobster and
researched a lot of obits at the Herald" and then Ginger comes in and she is
wearing tiny clothes and says she is going to the gym does "Brandon want to
come?" And after she leaves Brandon says, "she's a piece of work" twice and
then Val says, "I missed you" and then they start talking about the house
being in escrow and Brandon asks here where she is going to live and Val
says, "I could have taken care of the house" and Brandon is like, "no way, I
wanted to say goodbye to Casa Walsh" and then he asks if moving in with
Steve Sanders is not the biggest mistake in his life and Val says no because
then "he can ask for beer in six languages". So then Brandon leaves the
sandwich he was eating, which is strange because he certainly has put on a
bit of weight and not by leaving his plate full, and says make sure to wake
him up for dinner, and Val stops him and says, "What happened to us?"
reminding him that three months earlier he had his tongue down her tonsils.
And Brandon says, "I don't think we should pick up where we left off, do
you?" once again showing his winning sensitivity and ability to read what
other people are thinking, and Val is obviously thinking the opposite and
Brandon continues in his gallant way saying, "C'mon Val, the minute we took
off our clothes we started laughing uncontrollably" which must mean that
Brandon had never before that moment seen his very own penis. And Val says
that she is more upset at the fact that none of "the gang" talked to her
during the summer, and that if her friend Ginger goes, then she is leaving
with her and Brandon says "you can't go, you're the only family I have left"
which is a pretty sad statement to have to make, I mean maybe Brandon should
get the hint that his entire family has left him behind.

So then Kelly is showing Claire her modeling pictures, subtly trying to show
Claire that once you put on lip LINER, you usually fill in the lines with
some sort of lipSTICK; and Claire is all, "why are you staying in school?"
and Kelly goes, "I don't want to be just another pretty face" which if you
think about it is a really obnoxious thing to say. And then someone is at
the door, and it is Dylan McForehead who says, "Anyone home?" and Kelly
says, "how did you know I was home?" and Dylan says, "I hear things" and you
think that Dylan has gone from being clairvoyant to being Joan of Arc. And
they make small talk about Dylan's round the world trip, and he makes a
comment about "being back where I started" and Kelly says, "we are not back
where we started" and Dylan shows Kelly his dad's watch and explains that he
is on a mission to track down his dad's killers and he wants Kelly to help
him, and instead of saying to Dylan that she really doesn't appreciate
Dylan's needs to get girls he is involved with embroiled in his mafiosa game
playing, when he says to her that he only wants "a friend" she says: "Is
that all you want?"

So next we are back at "Casa Walsh" and Brandon has his Macintosh set up on
the kitchen counter and he is using AOL to download all those pornographic
binary files from the newsgroup area. And in walks Steve "Overt Penis Boy"
Sanders and David "Queen for a Day" Silver, and Steve's hair is all blow-dry
relaxed and David's hair is all gone Ceasar. And they are telling Brandon
that through only-on-television circumstances an amazing apartment on
Wilshire Blvd. is available dirt cheap for the three of them. And then Bobby
Van's wife shows up, and says in response to Brandon's apologizing for the
state of the house that the new owners of the house are planning on razing
it, so "they could trash the place if they wanted to". And Brandon wonders
aloud, "who would want to tear down this house?" and Steve gets the amazing
idea (his only one) to throw another party, totally forgetting that his last
series of parties put a friend in the hospital, burned down a frat, got him
a court sentence, and created the blunder that is Ray Pruitt's band.

And since Dylan is not going to be on the show much longer, I really don't
want to waste time with his sorry plot line, but he is going through his
dad's stuff looking for a clue.

So then Overt Penis Boy, Little Willie Silver, and Pillsbury Doughboy
Brandon are in Brandon's car "which his parent's gave to him out of guilt"
are driving, and talking about all that sex that none of them had that
summer except alone with themselves, and we find out that Claire broke up
with David, which leaves them as two stupid people instead of one stupid
couple. And brainiac Steve says, "I was busting my ass in summer school and
I'm still not a junior" and they talk about Dylan and they arrive at the
apartment where valets take the car away and we find out that it is a
penthouse with three baths and three bedrooms.

[Dylan plot line here: "Please be careful."]

Next scene is on the Martin yacht, where they are throwing a party for
Donna's last round of plastic surgery, and this lecherous man says to Donna,
"you're all grown up!" and Claire is wearing the backless top that she wore
during the credits which has absolutely no sleeves at all, and Val and
Ginger show up as the personae non gratae and crash the party and some lady
loses a ring in the bathroom.

[Dylan plot line here: "Don't get yourself killed."]

Back on the yacht, Donna's mom has called the cops, and she blames Ray, and
Donna is like, "mom, relax!"

So next we see Brandon trying to figure out how to UUDecode his porno
pictures that he got off of America Online, and he is writing email to his
folks and he types "send vast quantities of money"--like it isn't enough for
the greedy pigdog that his parents buy him a car and that he is living in
their huge house--and Skanky Ginger types instead "I've got the major hots
for your son" and then sends the email message and then Steve comes in with
something that looks like steroid-sized poppers, but which instead is some
bizarre two-can system of spray paint, like they don't have Krylon in
California or something. And he starts spray painting the wall, and his lame
tag is "Party", which also happens to be his major at school, and he says,
since the house is going to be torn down, they might as well help bring it
down by throwing a major party. And then he goes to buy beer, Ginger spray
paints a heart, and then pinches Brandon's chubby butt.

Next scene shows Donna and Claire getting ready for the party at the
Walshes, and Claire is true to form wearing a REALLY TIGHT SHIRT, like a
green rugby shirt that got shrunk in the wash only she didn't notice, and
Ray says, "Donna, get a move on!" and Donna is all dressed up and Ray is
wearing a T-shirt. And Ray asks Donna why her mom was giving him the "evil
eye", then says, "it's because she thinks I stole that ring," and then they
start kissing, and Claire breaks it up.

Meanwhile Kelly is helping Colin move into his loft, and his paintings look
like what Mark Kostabi might paint if he had any LESS talent than his hired
help already doesn't have, like there is one painting of a woman with no
face, and another one of a man in green pajamas walking among balloons and
musical notes. And Kelly quizzes him about his relationship with his father,
and he explains to her why he is an artist by making her inhale the fumes
from a tube of paint, saying that the noxious smell is the "scent of
creativity", and you can't help but think that he's been at the turpentine
jar a bit too much. And then he starts smearing paint on her face, and she
smears paint on his face (note: paint theme) and then they start kissing the
paint off each other.

So then the party is going full force at Casa Walsh, and Brandon is upstairs
unpacking the engagement ring he gave Kelly. And ginger shows up and says,
"can you help me with my zipper" and Brandon says, "Up or down?" and Ginger
says, "that's up to you" and then Kelly walks in and thankfully puts an end
to their rutting. And Brandon says, "Ginger is a friend of Valerie's" and
Kelly is all, "Any friend of Valeries..." and Ginger is like, "um, do you
want to like finish that sentence?" and Kelly leaves the room. So then
Brandon and Ginger start doing it. Downstairs, Nat is delivering the food
because "if I didn't deliver the food, you guys wouldn't invite me
anywhere". And Val says to Kelly, "I didn't realize you were back" and Kelly
is like, "sorry to disappoint you" and Val says, "did you seen Brandon?" and
Kelly says, "yes" and Val says, "What about Dylan?" and Kelly is all, "I can
see you haven't changed at all this summer, Valerie" and Val goes,
"Meaning?" and Kelly says, "meaning I have! the gloves are off" and Val
goes, "Ooh, I'm quaking" and Kelly is all, "Good! because I'm not playing
anymore. At least not with you." And Ginger walks up and goes, "everything
under control down here?" and Val says, "Sure. It's a regular party and a
half."

[(c) INQUISITOR MAGAZINE 1995]

 Thank goodness people aren't influenced by what they see on TV!






 Jim

    
    
    <--------
    
    I resent that Jim!!!!!
    
    
    Who would we vote for if we didn't have TV and/or political
    commercials?????
    

    
    I can't believe people watch that show.
    
    
    More than that, I can't believe I read that entire thing!
    
    

    I loathe TV...now I get reviews of shows I don't watch.  I am hurling
    now....
    
    
    

    Well, I like TV so  
    
    			8^pPpP`,`

    
    	Whenever I hear a copier running, I think of that Pepsi commercial
    	with the guy repeatedly trying to get the machine to take his $1
    	bill.
    

    
    i heard about the snow in denver that snowed in the prez and vice prez
    til early this morning...i had thought that, as a rule, the 2 of them
    don't go to the same functions together or travel together, in case the
    prez it taken out...or is that just a myth???
    
    

 Snow snarf

           <<< Note 13.499 by GAVEL::JANDROW "Green-Eyed Lady..." >>>

    
>    i heard about the snow in denver that snowed in the prez and vice prez
>    til early this morning...i had thought that, as a rule, the 2 of them
>    don't go to the same functions together or travel together, in case the
>    prez it taken out...or is that just a myth???
 

	They can and do attend the same functions. But they DO travel
	on different planes, ride in different cars, etc.

Jim
   
    

I remember when no more than three people from the same cost center were
supposed to travel on the same air flight.

Good point.

 He's so old, when he was in school they didn't teach history!

    
    merci, perci... ;> ;>
    
    
    -raq
    

re: .505

And another!

    
    In my family both parents didn't travel together for the same reason as
    the president/vice-president deal, but in our case I don't think it was 
    because of their importance to the country 8^).
    

To quite few totally reasonable persons, you're more important than this
crazy country any day.

    Perhaps this would be a useful one.

Tell you ma, tell your pa
Our loves gonna grow
ooo-waa, ooo-waa

    
    Thanks.
    

Does anyone know how one would go about finding a street location in
Canada?  There is a contest on the internet for Tom Cochrane's new
CD which is named "Ragged Ass Road" and they give you one location 
which is Yellowknife.  The contest is for you to name the other 
location where the same street name can be found.  I imagine there
might be some kind of Internet listing, but being a newbie, I haven't
quite figured out how to go about finding it...

>Does anyone know how one would go about finding a street location in
>Canada?  



 
Yes, I'm sure someone does.  hth

    
    Did they give you the street name?  
    
    Didn't Covert say that phone books were all on line now?  You could
    search for the street name in all the Canada phone books.
    
    I'm sure there's a faster way, tho.

The street name *is* "Ragged Ass Road".  The first 50 people to find
the other location (besides Yellowknife) win a Tom Cochrane catalogue
of signed CD's.  Since he's one of my favs, I would really LUV to 
find the answer but am in obvious need of some assistance (hint hint)

    Chris, get a postal code book for Canada, it list all the street names
    with appropriate codes. If it's a small town, you'll be out of luck
    though.

    
    Chris, pray to Obi Wan Kenobie, to show you the force, and maybe
    this will sove your problem.

    Perhaps it might solve it as well.

    
    The phrase "Ragged Ass Road" shows up in two stories in the July 24th 
    'Canada News Wire', one about Rolls Royces and one about Catholics,
    both in Toronto, but I couldn't read it because I'm not subscribed 8^/.
                    
    

I just looked in the Toronto section of the postal code book and
there is no listing there :-(    Hmmm.... do I want the CD's bad
enough to start going through the whole book???  Not really. But now
I'm curious as to just where this street is, so it will probably
bug me all weekend and I'll be going through the book city by city
on Monday!

    
    	SET NOTE/TITLE = "I'll let you know"
    

    
    	I have a work-related question:
    
    	Are there web sites where semiconductors can be advertised for
    	sale?
    
    	And is there a charge [weekly/monthly] to use it?
    
    	Thanks for any info.
    

    
    	How do I add nm% to an outside internet address?
    
    	for example, sending something to
    
    	abcd@aol.com
    
    	would I say
    
    	$ define/nolog abcd "nm%us4rmc::""abcd@aol.com"""
    
    	or is it
    
    	$ define/nolog abcd nm%"us4rmc::""abcd@aol.com"""
    
    	or is it
    
    	$ define/nolog abcd nm%us4rmc::"""abcd@aol.com"""
    
    
    	Thanks for any info.
    

    
    Option 1.
    
    -b

    	Don't know about the specific syntax you're struggling with,
    	but if you go into mail and do SET TRANS and set it to nm%,
    	the the nm% is tacked on for you by default, and the need for
    	the logical becomes moot.

re .527:

They should all work.  (only difference is case of case-irrelevant
stuff in definition of abcd)

    Gawd, I once hadda know all that, built it into my LOGIN.COM and
    everything, but then my boss Alan Kotok laid down the law & made (well
    really, ENTICED) me into kicking the habit, laying off the greasy
    VMSMail stuff, and handling ALL my mail via TCP/IP.  Life is SO much
    less of a hassle these daze!!  (except for those who insist on mailing
    to me from the more benighted CyberPrecincts of DIGITAL-land.)  But I
    didn't come in here to beguile those of that faith, so I'll end it
    here.
    

       re .527:
       
       I have no interest in helping you, but I do have an interest in
       showing up CliquotClub:

       You seem to be asking 2 questions at once: where do you put the
       nm% in relation to everything else, and how do you define a symbol
       with all this stuff (presumably, at either DCL level or in your
       login command file).

       The nm% immediately precedes the node name, as shown in examples 1
       and 3 in .527.  Alternatively, you can save yourself a lot of
       typing simply by defining nm% as the default way you'd like to
       send mail.  To do this, type SET TRANSPORT NM% at the MAIL>
       prompt, and you're all set until eternity, more or less.

       If you're including the symbol definition in your login file (or
       at an interactive DCL level), you need to go with option 3 (3 sets
       of double-quotes).  Don't ask why, you just have to because of The
       Laws of Quoted Strings.

(reprinted without permission - from Philadelphia's TAXI talk)

NAYDIV TAWK

"How To Tawk Like A Naydiv Fluffyan"
By Clark Deleon

SKOOK'LL - an expressway and a river.
SENDA CIDDY - where the expressway takes you.
WOODER - the liquid stuff flowing in the river.
GAZZ - the liquid stuff that keeps taxi cabs going.
KWAWFEE - the liquid stuff that keeps cab drivers going.
ACKROST - from here to there. Your destination could be ackrost town.
WINDAS - the roll down glass things in the cab.
PURDY - the view of the Senda Ciddy skyline out the windas.
BEEYOUDEEFUL - the view of the skyline at night.
PIXTURE - the view of the Senda Ciddy skyline that comes out of a camera.
LANNICK CIDDY - the place ackrost Jersey where you can gamble.
DOWNASHORE - where Lannick Ciddy is.
SHTREETS - what cabs drive on in Senda Ciddy.
PAYMENTS - what people walk on in Senda Ciddy.
FIFF - a numbered shtreet located between Forf and Sixt.
YO - what Fluffyans shout to friends ackrost the shtreet.
YO, HON - what Fluffyans shout to friends of the opposite sex.
YOUSE - second person singular.
YIZ - second person plural.
YIZZLE - a contraction, as in "Yizzle have fun in Fluffya".
WIDGES - a contraction, as in "Yizzle have even more fun if a Fluffyan goes
widges to show you around town."
INNERESTIN - what many museums are.
LYBERRY - place where you can read up on other innerestin stuff.
BUDDER - stuff you spread on top of bread.
TAHMAYDAHS - slices that go on top of hoagies.
ACKAME - big store where you can buy budder an tahmaydahs.
NAYDIVS - people who grew up in Fluffya
TELLUM - what you'll do when you see friends back home, tellum about the way
we tawk.

    Now dat pudda a smile onto my faze.

that definitely takes me back.  I growed up in that pard a da woild:-)


--Geoff

    
    	Well, thanks to all the responses to my nm% and logical query ...
    	and I'm glad I could give Topaz yet another chance to show up a
    	fellow noter with his unequaled/unequallable knowledge.
    
    	8^)
    
    	I ended up doing a SET TRANSPORT NM% ... which is kind of weird,
    	since it now takes about 5-10 seconds for me to be copied on the
    	stuff I sent out.  I get out of MAIL and get a message from my-
    	self, and the 1st couple times it happened I didn't know what
    	was going on.  8^)
    

    What does S.O.S. mean?  The distress code, not 'sh!t on a shingle'...
    
    Jason

    
    .537
    
    Nothing; it just happens to be an easily identified signal
    in Morse code.
    

             <<< Note 13.538 by TROOA::COLLINS "Cyberian Puppy" >>>

    
>    Nothing; it just happens to be an easily identified signal
>    in Morse code.
 
	Story I heard was that it was an abbreviation for "Save Our Ship".

Jim   

    
    Urban legend, Jim.  ;^)
    
    No, seriously, I read recently that it really doesn't stand for
    anything; it was just chosen because it was easy to learn, to send,
    and to identify.
    

    You sure it wasn't "Soup Or Salad" ?

    
    . . .   - - -   . . .   - - -   . . .
    
    

re .537:

It has no meaning, although many meanings were "invented" after the fact to try
to explain it.  In fact it is not (supposed to be) sent as the 3 letters S O S,
rather it's sent as a single "character", that is only the inter-"bit" gap (one
dot length) was sent between the dot and dash, and the dash and dot, not the
inter-character gap (one dash lengh or 3 dot lengths)  There were/are many
shorthand codes that are sometimes written as 2 or more letters (often with a
bar over them) but are actually sent as a single "character", such as the
ham's AR and CQ.

Don't worry, if you send SOS "incorrectly" and someone who can rescue you
hears you, you will still be rescued...

    
    ATTENTION ALL 'BOXERS:  BIT RATIONING IS NOW IN EFFECT, AND IS 
    EXPECTED TO LAST FOR THE DURATION OF THIS BIT CRISIS.
    

    
    	Byte me.
    

> Byte me.

Oh, no.  Ate bits.

/john

    
    	8^)
    

	Seen in Doahchestah this evening:

	Van with bumper sticker:

		My child is

		INMATE OF THE MONTH

		County Jail

    RE: the conf string
    
    Who the hell is Amos Hamburger?

    Amos was a participant here who passed away recently!

    >Amos was a participant here who passed away recently!
    
    Sorry to hear that!!
    
    
    /B, who doesn't read often enough to know the players

    >Sorry to hear that!!
    
     Ok, ok, who broke into Buck's account? The real Buck would have made a
    crass and insensitive comment, just to get people worked up...

    
    	See that, Buck?  If that really was you who typed that in, you've
    	all but ruined your reputation.
    
    	8^)
    

    Right!  I looked at the header of POWDML::BUCKLEY and thought, "Who
    does this guy think he's jerkin around????"

    RE: .553 and .555
    
    
    Testament to the fact that you people have absolutely NO idea who the
    "real me" is.  So much for judging people by a bunch of BS notes posted
    in a BS notes conference.
    
    No news to me that most BOXers love to pigeonhole people into 
    stereotypical roles and personalities, which I why I choose to play
    that up to the hilt here in the BOX.  It's so much easier that way for
    people to take the asy way out as opposed to getting past the surface 
    stuff to the person underneath all that.

    b.f. skinner he's not.

>>                          -< ha!  had you all fooled >-

	oh how terribly clever.  

>>take the asy way out as opposed to getting past the surface 
>>stuff to the person underneath all that.

	bluurgh.  okay, tell us all about your childhood, why
	don't you.  it'll fascinate the hell out of us, i'm sure, in
	our quest to understand the real you.

	Now that's the soapbox buck we know!!!

    >Testament to the fact that you people have absolutely NO idea who the
    >"real me" is.
    
     Which is more indicative of our indifference than anything else. What
    do you suppose it is about you that would encourage us to get to know
    the "real" you? Your asinine comments? Your inflammatory crap on the
    floor and run away laughing noting style? Yeah, that's really
    enthralling stuff. I know I'm fascinated.
    
    >No news to me that most BOXers love to pigeonhole people into 
    >stereotypical roles and personalities
    
     You think that's what's happened with you? You don't rate that kind of
    effort.
    

    Right....you don't even fill the shoes of Lord Hemerhoid!

    
                          (__)
                          (oo)
                   /-------\/  - moo?
                  / |     ||  
                 *  ||W---||  
                    ~~    ~~  
    

    re: last few
    
    I'm not surprised, as I expected as much from the BOX.
    
    Hey, what can I say?  Imho, my crappy noting style is a perfect fit for
    this crappy notesfile.  Sorry I don't take it as seriously as y'all...

    You get what you pay for.

    Your Grumpage May Vary

I'm reminded of John Lovetz (sp?) on SNL -

	"GET to KNOW ME!!"

    uncle Buck is not a nice man

    -1 ooops, sorry for the judgement. i'll go to my room now.

    
    > Your inflammatory crap on the floor...

    Sounds like he ate at that Mexican place again...
    Somebody get the fire extinguisher will ya?
    ;-)

    .564
    
    >           -< why I don't waste my time in here (often) >-
    
    It is fervently to be hoped that you might choose to waste your time in
    here far less often than you do at present.

    
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    		Presents the consummate rags to riches drama...
    
    				 OLIVER!
                                       
                                       
    
    November 3, 4, 10, & 11  at 8:00PM
    November 5 & 11 at 2:00 PM
    
    The Performing Arts Center
    Groton-Dunstable Middle School
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    Groton, MA
    
    Ticket prices at the door:
    Adults $10
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	anyone get the impression Andy isn't going to be around much longer? If
deb ever reads that message..... ;-)

    
    My videotape of "The Mikado" has a distinct snoring sound coming from
    house right 8^).
    
    
    

    
    
    yes, but.... oh, the ovations!!!!!

    
    Yes, said videotape also has a loud "whoop-whoop-whoop" sound coming
    from house right 8^)))).