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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Thu May 05 1988
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504.0. "The Best voices in Heavy Metal" by YODA::COOK (Chain Reaction ) Thu Mar 09 1989 12:41

    
    	This is another opinion note, but I think it's a valid one.
    
    	Who do you think is/are the best vocalist(s) in Heavy Metal?
    
    	My votes?
    	
    	Bruce Dickinson
    	Micheal Sweet
    	Geoff Tate
	That guy from Helloween
    
    /prc
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504.1Eat lots of glassSALEM::BUTKUSBut she's old enough for me.Thu Mar 09 1989 12:5614
    
    
    	I don't think thier the best (not by far even real good )
    
    	but the ones I like the most
    
    	Blackie Lawless
    	Dave Mustaine
    	James Hetfield
    	Udo Dirkshnieder (sp?)
    	and the guy for Metal Church
    
    	M
    	 B
504.2SAM KINNISON hey....HEEEEEYYYYAAAARRRRRRGGHHSALEM::DACUNHAThu Mar 09 1989 12:5656
    
    
        Her's a few......
    
                                   
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
                  OOOOO        OOOOOOOO     OOOOOOOO     O       O
                 O     O             O            O       O     O
                 O     O           OO           OO         OO OO
                 O     O         OO           OO             O
                 O     O        O            O               O
                  OOOO         OOOOOOOO     OOOOOOOO         O
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
                 But seriously........
    
    
                 Bruce Dickinson
                 David Coverdale
                 The guy from Kingdom Clone  (is that Geoff Tate??)
                 BONN Scott...  
                              growl growl
      
                 AXL Rose
                 Michael Jackson....I'm serious!
                                                 He should do more metal
                                             type songs like  "Dirty
                                                                   Diana"
    
                 
                            There's a lot more
    
                                       Somewhere!
                  
504.3RE: .2ANT::SLABOUNTYDo ya wanna bump & grind with me?Thu Mar 09 1989 12:575
    
        Geoff Tate is from Queensryche.
    
                                                       GTI
    
504.4Here's my-innPARITY::STACIEDon't start w/me, you know how I get!Thu Mar 09 1989 13:0423
    You bring up an interesting point with Mickey Jackson.  Dirty
    Diana was one of my favorite tunes.  Better than Leave Me Alone
    or whatever he's selling now.
    
    Beat it was cool, too.  Also Billie Jean.
    But I won't get any deeper into MJ than that.
    
    I like (some you may not consider "heavy" metal)
    
    Robin Zander
    Jeff Keith from Tesla (hee hee Motorbreath, I got it right!)
    Alice Cooper
    Steve Whiteman from Kix (awesome)
    What's his face from TNT
    Charlie Sexkitten (not *too* metallic, but something about that
                       sexy, deep voice!)
    Geoff Tate
    Louis St. August from Mass
    Jon Bon Jovi (Hate to say it)
    
    Can't think of anymore of the top of my head...
    
    Dilly
504.5Motorbreath picks...RICKS::MINARDIYour Iso-Cube is waiting...Thu Mar 09 1989 13:0814
    
    My votes for best vocalists... I'm not a big fan of the
    "pretty" voices...
    
    Blackie Lawless
    Jeff Keith ... very good Dilly! ;^)
    Jaymz Hetfield
    Joey Belladonna
    ditto that guy from Metal Church!
    I kinda like the singer from Coroner... not sure why
    Glenn Danzig
    Billy Idol
    
    um.... there's more
504.6Well..CISM::JANCZYKHelp....Thu Mar 09 1989 13:1010
    Geoff Tate..
    Jaymz (I love it!) Hetfield
    Jeff Keith
    
    and, although he doesn't have the range anymore:
    
    Robert Plant              
    
    CJ's two pennies
    
504.8A couple more.....SALEM::DACUNHAThu Mar 09 1989 13:356
    
    
                           David Lee Roth
                           Sammy Hagar
                           Klaus Mein (the guy from scorps)
    
504.9My favs, well one of them!!!CSC32::J_HERNANDEZIf yer gonna lose, lose big!!!Thu Mar 09 1989 13:4332
    DAVID LEE ROTH!!!!   get 'em DAVE, Ya-HOOO!!!
    
    
    
    Seriously, the best vocalist is...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    ...drumroll please...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Lillie Von Schtook the tippering titwillow!!!
504.11I have to go now...yeah, but what about...PARITY::STACIEDon't start w/me, you know how I get!Thu Mar 09 1989 13:5711
    Re. -9
    
    Jesse,
    
    how did I know you were going to lead us all down  the path
    with the FFs and drum rolls.  And there we went like little
    sheep to the slaughter...
    
    Grrr!!!
    
    Dilly
504.12STING::FRANCINEwon't you be....my neighborThu Mar 09 1989 14:1518
    
    Okay.
    
    The voices I like best/think are talented are:::::::
    
    
    James Hetfield
    Ronnie James Dio
    Geoff Tate
    Bruce Dickinson +++
    Bon Scott (God rest)
    the dude who was singing lead on the Born Again album - Sabbath
    
    bleep, bleep, fizzle, pop, crack, (smoke appears)... mind block
    
    Will write more when I remember... who I like that is... 8*)
    
    F.
504.13RE: FrancineANT::SLABOUNTYDo ya wanna bump & grind with me?Thu Mar 09 1989 14:185
    
        Black Sabbath - Ian Gillan
    
                                                       GTI
    
504.14yDASXPS::BOURQUEHe holds Eternity's WingsThu Mar 09 1989 14:2112
    
    
    ImO......
                   Ronnie James Dio
                   Ozzy
                   Ian Gillian
                   singer of Metal Church (?)
                   Ray Gillian (no relation to Ian)
                   Paul Diano (old Maiden)
                   
                                       Just a few
    TamaMania
504.16And his name is ...TYCOBB::C_DENOPOULOSDeath by misadventure!Thu Mar 09 1989 14:284
    David Wayne does vocals for Metalchurch and he's one of my favorites.
    
    Chris D.
    
504.17NOT TO BE LEFT OUT....FSHQA2::SNOSEKThu Mar 09 1989 15:1110
    I'd like to add my two cents worth:
    
       - Dave Meniketti
       - David Lee
       - Michael Sweet
       - Don Dokken (I'll probably get bashed for this one but.....
                     hey, it needed to be said)
    
    Sue
    
504.18NEEPS::IRVINEReality - the state of being soberThu Mar 09 1989 15:142
    IMHO Ian Gillan Sucks. I saw him in concert on the Ian Gillan band
    Vengence tour. Total Garbage.
504.19DASXPS::BOURQUEHe holds Eternity's WingsThu Mar 09 1989 15:496
    
    I saw Gillian when he was w/Sabbath and IMHO I thought he was Great
    
    
    
    TamaMania
504.20Like, losin my mahbles again...PARITY::STACIEDon't start w/me, you know how I get!Thu Mar 09 1989 15:507
    So is it Gillian or Gillan?
    
    huh?
    
    I always said Gillan.
    
    Dillan or is that Dillian
504.21Do you eat garbage TOO??SALEM::DACUNHAThu Mar 09 1989 16:0067
        
    
      MR. SCOTT,  Phasers on KILL...........full power!!!
    
    
    
    
    
    
       Gotta differ with you mate,
    
                      Ian Gillian had/has one of the best voices for
                  rock-HM ever on this planet.
    
                      Give him a break.......he's pushing forty (if
                                                             not there already)
                        
    
                      Unbelievable power, range, and expression.  
    
                      I never heard of the Ian Gillian Band,  but if
                      it is something that was put together lately,
                      it's definately not his best.
    
    
    
                      Unbelievable power, range and expression.......
    
    
                         a lot of emotion..........wicked vibrato.....
    
                      a definate screamer........
    
    
                      Maybe you should listen to a couple of cuts from
                      a DEEP PURPLE album or even......
    
    
                            Jesus Christ Superstar soundtrack.........
    
    
                      Twenty years of singing like that is bound to
                      take it's toll.
    
    
    
    
                   re. -1   If Ian Gillian sucks,  then who (in your
                                                        opinion) is great????? 
                                                       
    
    
    
    
    
                   I'm disappointed in myself for not including his
                   name in my first reply.......
    
    
    
          DEFINITELY ONE OF THE   ** ALL TIME **  GREATS
    
    
             
    
                                                MITZM_BLEATS
    
504.22Hear hear! cheers!DASXPS::BOURQUEHe holds Eternity's WingsThu Mar 09 1989 16:031
    
504.23STING::FRANCINEwon't you be....my neighborThu Mar 09 1989 16:079
    
    
    Still love the way he does "Disturbing the Priest"
    
    AH HA HA HA HA 
    
    Never seen him live so can't comment on that!
    
    F. 
504.24DASXPS::BOURQUEHe holds Eternity's WingsThu Mar 09 1989 16:098
    
    Disturbing the priest believe it or not came out Mint -LIVE-
    
    With High Screams I feel Ian has a more Powerful voice than
     Rob Halford,,,Its Close
    
    
    
504.25STING::FRANCINEwon't you be....my neighborThu Mar 09 1989 16:1312
    
    
    ACK
    
    That reminds me!  
    
    I like Rob Halfords voice too.
    
    I've got some of his way old stuff where he sings like opera real
    cool.  He may not have it now, but he had it then.
    
    F.
504.26ANT::SLABOUNTYDo ya wanna bump & grind with me?Thu Mar 09 1989 16:2213
    
        There are 2 notes in one here:
    
        1)  The best singers
    
        2)  Your favorite singers
    
    
        Rob Halford is at the top of my list, for sheer vocal range
        and his ability to hold notes.
    
                                                       GTI
    
504.28... a word or two about Gillan...GIAMEM::HARRINGTONDreaming of pictures of homeThu Mar 09 1989 17:2424
	It's definitely spelled "Gillan."

	Gillan WAS one of rock's premier vocalists, but for some reason he
never quite got the fan following he deserved. Now, though, as someone said,
he's lost a lot of his range and power. He's still not BAD, though, and by vir-
tue of his earlier efforts, he remains my own #1 vocal idol.

	The Ian Gillan Band was formed in 1974 or so, right after Gillan
parted ways with Deep Purple. He kept different versions of that band going al-
most right up until he joined (for the one album, which I detested) Black 
Sabbath. Now, NO ONE has ever been a bigger fan of Gillan than me - but even *I*
have to admit that the Ian Gillan Band, as a whole, sucked. The music was 
NOTHING remotely like Purple's; it was more jazz-experimental, with strange 
arrangements and instrumentation. I bought two or three albums, listened to them
a few times - and threw them out. So - I don't know - it MAY be that the person
who said Gillan sucked when he was with the IGB just didn't like the type of 
MUSIC they were doing, rather than rating Gillan himself.

	Still, as I said, Gillan gets my vote as the best (former) voice in 
rock. I don't have any qualifications for voting on anybody more current.


							----- Shawn Harrington
504.29Nya nya nya nyaPARITY::STACIEDon't start w/me, you know how I get!Thu Mar 09 1989 17:289
    
    
    ha ha I was right.
    
    I knew it.  (Well I didn't really *know* it)
    
    I get obnoxiouos when I'm right.
    
    DillAN
504.30ASAHI::COOPERComputers...All they ever think of is hex...Thu Mar 09 1989 17:458
    This is easy (and in my opinion):
    
    Jeff Keith
    Geoff Tate
    Jeff Cooper (oppssss   ;^)
    James Hetfield
    Don Dokken
    Bruce Dickenson
504.31PRIEST RULZE!!!!MCIS2::AKINSI C your Schwartz is as big as mine!Fri Mar 10 1989 02:494
    Rob Halford
    
    The Sentinel
    
504.32YNGWVE [SP?] :-)MCIS2::AKINSI C your Schwartz is as big as mine!Fri Mar 10 1989 02:579
    others to mention.....
    
    DLR, Sammy Hagar, Dickerson [Sp], DIO, OZZY
    
    and I also feel that the Sweet that sings from Stryper has a great
    set of Vocals there....(I forgot which one..)
    
    
    The Sentinel
504.33favorite hard rock/ HMUSADEC::BJUBINVILLEFri Mar 10 1989 03:3711
    Here's mine...
    
    Billy Gibons
    Dusty Hill
    Billy Squire
    Bonn Scott
    Brian Johnson
    Joe Elliot
    
    
    Boz
504.34ROSBIF::PHILIPPAMaple Syrup? Anyone?Fri Mar 10 1989 07:514
    That makes 2 votes for Billy Squire!!!!!!
    
    
    FLip
504.35ANT::SLABOUNTYDo ya wanna bump & grind with me?Fri Mar 10 1989 11:597
    
        Brian Johnson?
    
        EEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
    
                                                       GTI
    
504.37Carusoe!!!SALEM::BUTKUSBut she's old enough for me.Fri Mar 10 1989 12:187
    
    
    	What makes a best singer is how pleasing he is to your
    	 ear.
    
    	M
    	 B
504.38Another few...JANUS::FAGGMetal manFri Mar 10 1989 12:4018
    Hmmm..."best VOICES". Here's my list, not as they are now, but as
    they were in their prime (as someone's already said, 20 years of
    Rock 'n' Roll takes its toll on any voice).
    
    Ian Gillan
    Robert Plant
    Ronnie James Dio
    Lemmy
    James Hetfield
    Ozzy
    Roger Daltry
    Maggie Bell
    Janis Joplin
    Bruce Dickinson
    
    That should do for now (and it's in no particular order)
    
    Keef.
504.39IPOVAX::FRANCINEwon't you be....my neighborFri Mar 10 1989 12:4116
    
    
    The best singers for me.. is...
    
    Som eof them I like the way they sing/communicate on the songs..
    
    i.e. Bon Scott  --- sound niiiiicccceee.
    
    others I just have to appreciate because they are exceptionally
    talented..
    
    i.e. Bruce Dickinson
    
    imo
    
    F.
504.40YepNEEPS::IRVINEReality - the state of being soberFri Mar 10 1989 13:155
    I gotta agree with F. 
    
    Before he croaked Bon Scott was the absolute Ballz.
    
    Bonzo.
504.41ANT::SLABOUNTYDo ya wanna bump & grind with me?Fri Mar 10 1989 13:5017
	RE: Pete

	    If someone is said to have the best voice, it means
            (to me anyways) that ...

	    1)  (S)he can hold a note for an 'extended' time period
	    2)  (S)he can attain very high and very low notes
	    3)  (S)he can scream without cracking her/his voice

	If u go by these guidelines, then the following are out:

        Lemmy - not capable of hitting high notes
        Brian Johnson - can't scream without cracking
        ? Sweet - can't hit low notes  (ha ha!!  kidding!!)

                                                       GTI
504.42AYOU48::MMADSENJustice is raped...Fri Mar 10 1989 14:359
    My fave singers:
              Glen Danzig - this guy just roolz in my opinion
              James Hetfield
              Dave Mustaine
              Tom Warrior (Celtic Frost)
              Rob Halford (In the late '70s)
              the guy from Hades
    
          Mike
504.438^)ROSBIF::PHILIPPAMaple Syrup? Anyone?Fri Mar 10 1989 14:4212
    re> Someone who can hold a note the longest.
    
    If that's the case then Chris Denopoulos gets my vote - he sang
    me happy birthday and held one note longer than Bruce Dickinson
    in Hallowed be thy name!!!!!!!
    
    Let's here it for Chris!
    
    ;^)
    
    
    Flip
504.44Fav singersEBBV01::ROCHANo ProblemFri Mar 10 1989 16:308
    Here's mine....
    
    	Sammy Hagar
    	DLR
    	Axl Rose
    	Joe Elliot
    
    
504.45Play's decent bass too....MCIS2::AKINSI C your Schwartz is as big as mine!Sat Mar 11 1989 00:378
    I was gunna put ZZtop (Billy Gibbons, and Dusty Hill) in here but
    I figured they weren't Heavy Metal....but I agree....Especially
    Dusty.   Listen to the first side of Fandango where they boogy-woogy (live)
    to Mello Down Easy....Dusty holds an extreamly high note longer
    than humanly possible....(He also cranks TUSH, and Beer Drinkers
    and Hell Raisers.)
    
    The Sentinel
504.46PFLOYD::ROTHBERGThe wind song whispered a warning...Sat Mar 11 1989 10:5317
                
                Come on.    The  best musicians aren't always the
                most pleasing.   Most  people would rather listen
                to Poison than Vinnie  Moore, but are they better
                musicians??    Come on.   Same  thing  goes  with
                vocals.  My definition of a  great  singer is one
                with voice control.  He can control  pitch, tone,
                clarity  and  a  number  of  other things without
                damaging  his  vocal  cords.   Dio wins there.  I
                admit I  find  TNT's  voice  more pleasing to the
                ear, but he  is hardly a better singer.  You want
                length?  Manowar wins.    You  want range, Prince
                wins (now HE'S a great singer), you want a laugh,
                Axl wins . . .
                
                
504.47Priest LiveDISCVR::LEESat Mar 11 1989 11:356
    Really you metalheads out there we all hafta agree that Robert Halford
    of Judiest Priest has a voice that rocks. Even though he's getting
    old.
    
    Bil
    
504.48TheTop on top!USADEC::BJUBINVILLESun Mar 12 1989 23:433
    That's (2) for Dusty and the boys!!!!!!
    
    Boz
504.49THE BEST..RDGENG::BUDGENLIVE TO RIDE, RIDE TO LIVE, OR DIE!!!Mon Mar 13 1989 11:3912
504.50IPOVAX::FRANCINETV party tonight!Mon Mar 13 1989 15:1013
    
    
    I garee on Rob Halford.
    
    But ONLY his old stuff..  Like (IMO) Screaming for Vengeance
    was just barely good.  Anything after that is just average.  Anything
    prior to that is excellent voice quality.
    
    Rob.  This is kind of an opinion thing here I think.  LIke some
    of it is quality, and some of it is "oh I like the way that guy
    sounds."
    
    F.
504.51CHEFS::DALLISONa slip of the tongueMon Mar 13 1989 15:3016
                   
    I think Dickinson is probably one of the best in terms of vocal
    range etc.. but my favourite is David Coverdale.  He may not have
    the range of Tate or Dickinson, but the guy is versatile (Listen
    to his old Northwinds stuff and then to 1987).  I just like him.
    Shame that WS has gone down the drain a bit.
                   
    I think the worst singer in terms of vocal range is Ozzy.  the guy
    has a great VOICE, but he can't sing for toffee - hell, I can *sing*
    better than Ozzy Osbourne.  The guy is one of my fav dudes though.
    My all time hate for vocals has to be Don Dokken.  I suppose he
    has a good voice, but I can't stand the sound of it.
                   
    Just my opinion folks !     
                             
    -Tony                    
504.52ONFIRE::FRANCINETV party tonight!Mon Mar 13 1989 15:4111
    
    
    I hate Debbie Gibson's voice!
    
    Overrated big time!
    
    I mean, in the grammy's she can't carry a note for sh*t!
    
    I mean, her music s*cks too, but being objective, really.
    
    F.
504.53From the Gates of HellLUDWIG::LAMOTHEJust Say NO....to DRUGSFri Mar 17 1989 01:1851
     
                      <Back From the  G R A V E>
    
    RE: Franc.
    
        That's your opinion, as for me I like Debbie Gibson's
    tunes. ( Otherwise, I wouldn't have both lp releases ) As for the
    grammy's ....I didn't watch it, but I think she has alot of talent,
    plus it doesn't hurt having a father producing albums for ya.....she
    writes her own music and everything....Give her a break.
    
       Well, dudes and gals...that wuz my opinion .
    
    
    As for favorite HM vocalist:
    
    
       Ronnie James DIO
       
       Ian Gilian
    
       the OZ
    
       Robert Plant
    
       Mikey Sweet
    
       David C.  from Whitesnake
    
       Sammy hagar
    
       Eric Clapton
    
       Bob Segar
    
       David Lee Roth
    
       
     
       What's his face from the following groups
    
                                                   The Clash
    
                                                    Rush
    
                                                    
    
     Sax  ( When in doubt......Just pull it out !!! )
    
    
    
504.54MCIS2::AKINSCollege....The Big LieFri Mar 17 1989 22:471
    re: -.1 I agree Getty Lee (RUSH) has an increadable voice.
504.55Just a nit... I agree !ASAHI::COOPERComputers...All they ever think of is hex...Sun Mar 19 1989 15:103
    Thats GeDDy Lee...
    
    jc
504.56PFLOYD::ROTHBERGSetting sights on a circuit screamSun Mar 19 1989 19:266
                
                That's also INCREDIBLE . . .
                
                - VAXrobSPELL -
                
504.57MCIS2::AKINSCollege....The Big LieTue Mar 21 1989 00:326
    That's 3 times that people have picked on my spelling.
    
    
    I'm an Art Major....I don't use words...
    
    The 
504.58More Beer or Kill Bon Jovi!EUCLID::OWENIn a Locst wind coms a RATTLE AND HUMTue Apr 04 1989 14:528
    How's about...
    
    James "Kill Bon Jovi" Hetfield
    Geoff Tate
    Perry Ferrel
    Rob Halford
    
    Steve O
504.61I'm in the midst of a traaaaumaRICKS::MINARDICome crawling fasterTue Apr 04 1989 15:146
    Perry Farrel is the singer for Jane's Addiction.
    I love his style!
    
    "'cause you know honaaaayyy"
    
    /Motorbreath
504.62Like I said, "Kill Bon Jovi"EUCLID::OWENIn a Locst wind coms a RATTLE AND HUMTue Apr 04 1989 15:448
    re: a few back
     
    Let's not get all bent out of shape.
    "Kill Bon Jovi" was written on James Hetfields guitar in Worcester.
    I don't remember what it said in Portland, but he has another that
    says "More Beer" on it.
    
    Steve O
504.63Ah ya beautiful girlsFXADM::SECURITYGuns...When do we get Guns.Thu Aug 17 1989 20:0614
    
       O.K. O.K. heres mine
        Dave coverdale
        Bruce dickinson
        Lita ford
        michael sweet(Stryper)
        Geoff tate
        the guy from winger
        Kevin debrow(Quiet Riot)
        DLR
        Don Dokken
        Lead singer for VIXEN..
    
           Doug..
504.64NamesakeBUSY::JMINVILLEUngawa! Simba!Thu Aug 17 1989 20:465
    RE: -1
    
    >> the guy from winger
    
    		That's Kip Winger.
504.65RAVEN1::B_ADAMSI ? 2 Turn &lt;Thu Aug 17 1989 22:4910
    
       How about...
    
                   John Lennon!  On the tune Yer Blues!
    
    
                    from the White Album....
    
    
    B.A.
504.66DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAMEFri Aug 18 1989 11:265
    
    
    
                         Dio.
    
504.67metal voiceKURMA::JCORRIGANSat Sep 02 1989 13:351
    yes geoff tate by many light years.
504.68BOSOX::BOURQUEAT the Headless CrossSat Sep 02 1989 13:4112
    
    
    
    
             Black Sabbath's .....Tony Martin
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Tama
504.69ANT::SLABOUNTYReal men drive VWs.Tue Sep 05 1989 10:2610
    
    	Graham Bonnet bores me ... he's got a good voice, but he al-
    	ways sounds the same.
    
    	Impellitteri, MSG, Rainbow ... they practically sound like
    	the same band.
    
    							GTI
    
    
504.70FFYYYAAAHHHBUFFER::GOLDSMITHThe Gang &amp; The Gov't-No DifferentWed Oct 11 1989 13:513
    
    
    Ian Astbury from The Cult
504.71CHIPS::PERTAGWed Oct 11 1989 15:271
    Geoff Tate no doubt
504.73SHALOT::FAILEThief! Baggins! We hates it!Sat Jan 06 1990 19:512
    I have to say that Bruce has a better voice. Sorry but my vote goes to
    Bruce, not the grfather of metal Ozzy.
504.74a little off track, but.SHRFAC::BOUDREAUMon Jan 08 1990 10:067
    
RE -1,-2
    		No,No,No...
    
    	The *BEST* HM voice belongs to Ian Gillan!!!!!!!
    
    				CB
504.75He's the King of Rock n' Roll!!!!!!!!!!!!DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAMEMon Jan 08 1990 10:568
    
    
        Well, you guys are all close but...the best voice in metal belongs
    
    to yet another ex-Sabbath vocalist--Ronnie James Dio!
    
                          SabFan
    
504.77LOOKUP::BUCKLEYSnakes are your *friends*!Mon Jan 08 1990 12:119
    Oh, c'mon people...
    
    The BEST HM voices are the following:
    
    o Geoff Tate
    o Michael Kiske
    o Bon Scott
    
    ...can the rest of the lot!
504.7845944::PERKINSWho taught you to torture?Mon Jan 08 1990 12:203
    
    Ahem....you missed off Sebastian!!!  8^)
    
504.79No time to rest yet,we've got to stop his game...DASXPS::GWILLIAMSMon Jan 08 1990 12:259
    
    
    Tate rules all. Period. When it comes to singing, he is "The Man"
    
    
    
    
                                                            R.C.
    
504.82Start start the fire...BOSHOG::KELLYDie with your boots on. Mon Jan 08 1990 20:048
    
    	Re Buck
    
    
    		What about Dave Wayne....from the OLD Metal Church?!?!
    
    Bk
    
504.83Burnin' on forever!FACVAX::BUCKLEYSnakes are your *friends*!Mon Jan 08 1990 20:318
    Thanx BK
    
    I forgot about Dave....and he's AWESOME.
    
    When he left Metal Church, he showed the world his voice WAS Metal
    Church!
    
    B (uc) K
504.84Turnin' up that CHAINSAW sound...BOSHOG::KELLYDie with your boots on. Tue Jan 09 1990 00:039
    
    	RE B uc K
    
    	No prob....  I got stuck on MC earlier...you reminded me.
    
    	You got stuck...I reminded you....anint life grand?!?!
    
    BK
    
504.85Easy.ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATTue Jan 09 1990 03:3818
    
    
    
                    Rob Halford - Judas Priest
    
    Halfords voice has range. He sings very clearly from low notes to
    exremely high ones. Very few metal singers have this quality. True,
    there are some that sound perfect at a certain level, but Rob Halford
    could sing just about any level of music. Any Priest fan has heard
    examples of how clear he can sing on tunes like "Last Rose" and
    "Dreamer Deciever". Most people are used to listening to the high end
    of his voice like "Screaming For Vengence" or "Jawbreaker". I've been
    into Metal for many years and have never heard another voice with
    quality range like this one. It stands alone.
    
    
    
                              DEEBS
504.86CHEFS::DALLISONWith your G-string tuned to ATue Jan 09 1990 11:159
    
    Kiske ?
          
    Ha ! That guys shrieks so bad it hurts my ears ! He's okay most
    of the time, but he is too whinny. Nowdays I can't listen to Helloween
    for more than ten minutes coz if his vocals!!
                                    
    Geoff Tate, Ronnie James Dio and David Coverdale are *THE* rock
    vocalists of the last ten years.
504.87La la la laaa...49711::VLASIUTry with a bigger hammerTue Jan 09 1990 11:268
    For "classic" voices I vote for Geoff Tate, David Byron (Uriah Heep),
    Ian Gillan and Robert Plant (difficult to differentiate in any case,
    and others should be included also).
    For "pure heavy metal" voices I vote for David Wayne (Metal Church),
    Udo (Accept) and Randy Rampage (Annihilator) as beeing among the bests.
    For singing alone while under the shower I vote for me.
    
    Sorin
504.8845944::PERKINSI was me but now he's goneTue Jan 09 1990 11:296
    
    Tom Araya!  "AARRGGHH!!!!!"
    
    8^)
    
    Flip
504.89ASAHI::COOPERBlackened is the word...Tue Jan 09 1990 16:391
    Halford and Tate.
504.90ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATTue Jan 09 1990 18:451
    Lemmy and Bill Milano.
504.91LZMERLAN::DIFRUSCIAI'M THE NRAFri Jan 12 1990 13:575
     
    my vote goes for Robert Plant,
    
    Tony
    
504.92MERLAN::SCALZOFri Jan 12 1990 16:148
    my favorites
    
    Geddy Lee
    Robb Halford
    Klaus Meine (sp?)
    Robert Plant
    
    Jeff
504.94The best of Rockers...MCIS2::AKINSValhalla I am coming....Sat Jan 13 1990 01:046
The more I think about it...

Klaus Meine [sp?] of the Scorps....

No doubt...

504.95Have I already voted?CSCOA5::THOMPSON_Rnow you're messin with a...Sat Jan 13 1990 08:063
    re: last: great pn!
    
    I vote for OZZY (again)
504.96ScOrPiOnSBREW11::WICKETTRANGERSMon Jan 15 1990 10:1410
    
    
    CLAUS MAINE --- SCORPIONS
    
     Without a doubt
    
     Also Bon Scott & Freddy Mercury (EARLY Mercury was brill)
    
                   The_Lovedriver
    
504.97NitIOSG::PERKINSEverybody has an opinion, but then everybody has an asshole!Mon Jan 15 1990 10:163
    ya mean Klaus Meine?
    
    Flip
504.98BREW11::WICKETTRANGERSMon Jan 15 1990 10:2711
    
    
    Yep Thats the One I thought is spell it
    wrong for you..
    
    Still even though he has a silly name name he is still
    the best HM singer around.
    
    
               The_Lovedriver
    
504.99"And the singer sang his song"CBROWN::PLAFONDGUITARS RULEMon Jan 15 1990 12:325
    	Out of all the notes,not one mentions a Super Singer of the
    Heavy Metal World.
             1. Tony Harnell (TNT) A ballsey band
    	     2. Mark Slaughter (VV) 
             	
504.100BTOVT::BAGDY_MStr-8 jacket memories sedative highsTue Jan 16 1990 15:179
504.101to name but a few.KIRKTN::JCORRIGANjim corrigan @ sqfSun Apr 22 1990 03:379
    rob halford.
    cluas meine.
    geofe tate.
    ozzy.
    phil mogg.
    david coverdale.
    sammy hagar.
    
    
504.102TylerWMOIS::MAZURKADYLITHIUM.Wed Apr 25 1990 14:535
    I idolize Tate and Meine but I'm suprized that no one mentioned
    Steven Tyler.Sure he did some lousy shows when he was all screwed up,
    but he's great on album and great in the last few years live.
    
                                    Crazy_Al
504.103MILKWY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Mon May 14 1990 18:147
    
    	Marc Slaughter boasts a 5-octave vocal range.
    
    	To me, that sounds impressive.
    
    							GTI
    
504.105UPWARD::HEISERgive me 7 pillars of wisdomMon May 14 1990 21:437
    5 octaves is great, but there seems to be a lot of great singers out
    there with that range.  What I'm trying to say, is that it doesn't seem
    as rare of a talent as Satriani playing a guitar.
    
    Petra has had *2* 5 octave lead vocalists in this decade!
    
    Mike
504.106PFLOYD::ROTHBERGTurn around&amp;walk the razors edge...Mon May 14 1990 22:3711
                Re: .103
                
                I heard  that a while back.  Sure, maybe he has a
                5 octave range,  but he probably only sounds half
                way decent in about 3 of them.
                
                Tony Harnell kicks!!!   Get  this Slaughter loser
                out of here!
                
                
504.107TNT RooooolzICS::BUCKLEYYou better drop the gun...Tue May 15 1990 12:569
    Yo, Rob!
    
    YES, a jovial 2nd YES vote on Tony Harnell!!!
    
    That like Jim Gilette...former front man for Nitro...He had a 5 or 6
    octave range to his voice...in fact, he used to get off on breaking
    beer bottles in the club with his voice.  Bah!  Marketing scam!
    
    B.
504.108Bring it up to date.PLAYER::SUTHERLANDI'm not free but I am good value!Tue Nov 06 1990 14:3710
    Time for a rcount on this topic.  My favourites:
    
    Geoff Tate
    RJ Dio
    David Byron
    Whatsisface from Tesla
    David Coverdale
    
    
    GAZ
504.110MILKWY::SLABOUNTYThe new phone book's here!!Tue Nov 06 1990 14:446
    
    	Geoff Tate
    	Rob Halford
    	Mark Slaughter
    							GTI
    
504.111Few moreKETJE::VLASIUTue Nov 06 1990 15:006
    More competitors added:
    
    Harry "The Tyrant" Conklin (Titan Force)
    Tom Araya (Slayer) and Forbidden's singer for the very heavy category
    
    Sorin
504.112ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATTue Nov 06 1990 20:357
    
    Lemmy (Motorhead)
    
    
    
    
                                  DEEBS
504.113CSC32::H_SOHyundai insider: I drive a ChevyTue Nov 06 1990 22:2821
    
    RE: -1
    
    AGAGAGAGAGAGA!!!
    Ahem!  Are you serious?  8*)
    
    My list:
    
    Geoff Tate(this guy is not human)
    Brad Delp(neither is he)
    Steve Perry(so he sang a few mooshy ones...)
    
    I've seen/heard all these three live and they are all incredible!
    
    Cindi Saraya(Yum!!!)
    Geddy Lee(not the best in the world, but I like his singing style)
    
    And the absolute bottom of the list(maybe I should say list of singers
    I destest) is King Diamond.  Ack!  
    
    SESOB
504.114XCUSME::SCHROEDERWed Nov 07 1990 01:078
    
     'Bout time someone included David Byron in there! I thought I was
    the only one that thought he was one of the best. How about Ian
    Gillan?  He's also one of my favorite. I'd also have to include the 
    singer for Bloodrock (a band whom, no doubt, many of you have either
    never heard of or had the "pleasure" of hearing). I don't know how many
    people consider Aerosmith HM (to me there rock) but Steven Tyler HAS to
    have one of the best voices out there (IMHO).
504.115The most bodacious TNTPFLOYD::ROTHBERGShe turned me into a newt!Wed Nov 07 1990 02:145
                Never forget the awesome... Tony Harnell

                I know Buck will agree on this one! :')

504.116CSC32::H_SOHyundai insider: I drive a ChevyWed Nov 07 1990 04:417
    
    Oh, guess what?  I forgot Tony Harnell!  ;^)
    
    Saw this guy live, too.  I donno how the hell he can keep his voice
    after doing that time after time!!!  
    
    SESOB
504.117R.I.P. David ByronKETJE::VLASIUWed Nov 07 1990 06:5911
Re. .114

I also consider (reply .87 ?) David Byron one of the best voices.
Freddy Mercury deserves also all the recognition (there was even some Heep/Byron
influence on the first Queen albums).
Glenn Hughes (bass/vocals for Deep Purple and later Black Sabbath) has also a
great voice and this was a problem in Deep Purple because he was competing
with David Coverdale (who is also a great singer). Hughes' voice was deeper
and warmer than Coverdale's at that time.

Sorin
504.118PEKING::WRANGEVERYTHING'S SO LA-LA-LA-LA-LOVELYWed Nov 07 1990 07:095
    
    I second Glenn Hughes, he has an excellent voice on the album he did
    with Pat Thrall.
    
    Flip
504.119SOURCE::WHITMANWed Nov 07 1990 08:063
    
    
    	Second Mark Slaughter!
504.120SUZY::GOLDBERGWed Nov 07 1990 11:438
    
    Ian Gillan
    Rob Halford
    Geoff Tate
    Bon Scott
    James Hetfield (just cause)
    
    F.
504.1218^)BINKLY::MINARDIJuice Crew... Dept. of Energy!Wed Nov 07 1990 11:555
    
    
    I second LEMMY!!!
    
    /Motorbreath...a true HM voice!
504.122MILKWY::SLABOUNTYThe new phone book's here!!Wed Nov 07 1990 11:577
    
    	RE: J.
    
    	That's Sandy [Sandi?] Saraya, not Cindy.
    
    							GTI
    
504.123KETJE::VLASIUWed Nov 07 1990 12:406
    Re. .121
    
    Those who like Lemmy's voice should also like Coroner's singer.
    Wargasm has also a fine HM singer.
    
    Sorin
504.124PNO::HEISERstand in the gapWed Nov 07 1990 15:342
    John Schlitt  - 5 octave range!
    Michael Sweet - (I don't care what Guitar World says!)
504.125ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATWed Nov 07 1990 19:316
    
    The singer from Anihilator is also great.
    
    
    
                                     DEEBS
504.126BINKLY::MINARDIJuice Crew... Dept. of Energy!Wed Nov 07 1990 19:523
    Randy Rampage, or the new guy?
    
    /M
504.127JUPITR::BJUBINVILLEThu Nov 08 1990 05:411
    how 'bout Greg Guiffria from house of lords...
504.128The end of the lineRTOEU::OCURCIOTurn me looseThu Nov 08 1990 11:395
    That best voice of a man, that sounds like a woman is the one of
    Travis Mitchel from Mindstorm.
    
    Oliver a Munich Music Freak
    
504.129VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKWoe to you O' Earth and Sea...Thu Nov 08 1990 12:034
    
    Without a doubt, Michael Kiske is the very best.
    
    /prc
504.130ICS::BUCKLEYmaybe we can learn to loveThu Nov 08 1990 12:233
    -1
    
    No way, Jim Gilette is the very best!
504.131MILKWY::SLABOUNTYThe new phone book's here!!Thu Nov 08 1990 13:336
    
    	Jim Gillette has an incredible range, and his sustain is al-
    	most as good, but I'd rather listen to Slaughter or Halford.
    
    							GTI
    
504.132VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKWoe to you O' Earth and Sea...Thu Nov 08 1990 13:402
    
    Who does Gillette sing for?
504.133ICS::BUCKLEYYou have just won $200,000 for shoppingThu Nov 08 1990 14:033
    -1
    
    Nitro
504.134MILKWY::SLABOUNTYThe new phone book's here!!Thu Nov 08 1990 14:207
    
    	Remember the song "Freight Train" on the HBB?
    
    	The one with Michelangelo playing the 4-necked guitar?
    
    							GTI
    
504.135Lemmy??? Get real... ;^)GOES11::G_HOUSEBut this amp goes to 11Thu Nov 08 1990 14:2418
    re: Gillette
    
    Man, that dude's voice really gets on my nerves!  It's like painfully
    piercing.  I would agree that it's difficult to sing like that and he's
    definately got a talent, but it's pretty tough for me to listen to.
    
    re: Lemmy
    
    Hahaha!  I never thought I'd hear someone say this guys name and the
    phrase "good voice" in the same sentence.  It's like Bon Scott too, I
    love his music, but I'd never say he had a good voice.
    
    Pretty much all the people I would list in my "best voices" have
    already been stated a bunch of times in here, so I won't bother
    restating them again.
    
    gh
                         
504.136VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKWoe to you O' Earth and Sea...Thu Nov 08 1990 14:267
    
    re: -1
    
    Slaughter's voice grates on mine. He whines more than he sings (IMO).
    
    
    /prc
504.1378*)SUZY::GOLDBERGThu Nov 08 1990 16:058
    
    re: -1
    
    I agree!
    
    Bon Scott never whined!  8*P
    
    F.
504.139HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSMen Are Pigs, And Proud Of It!Thu Nov 08 1990 19:288
    
>>    Slaughter's voice grates on mine. He whines more than he sings (IMO).
    
    
      I can listen to his live version, but on the studio version I think
    he sounds too much like Rudy Vally(sp) from teh 4 seasons.
    
    Chris D.
504.140IMPULS::STARRSRV.....I can't believe you're gone.......Thu Nov 08 1990 19:515
> he sounds too much like Rudy Vally(sp) from teh 4 seasons.

That's Frankie Valli.....

alan
504.143...of the weekBINKLY::MINARDIJuice Crew... Dept. of Energy!Sun Nov 18 1990 15:093
    
    	My opinion on the BEST voice in heavy metal is the dude
    from Flotsam and Jetsam - like Geoff Tate, with more power.
504.145MILKWY::SLABOUNTYOf course you can touch this.Tue Nov 27 1990 12:495
    
    	Jani Lane - Warrant
    
    							GTI
    
504.146MY PICKS!COMET::CARTERJWed Mar 20 1991 20:189
     Paul Shortino of Rough Cutt,Qiuet Riot,Bad Boyz.
    
    
                   and Steven Tyler of AEROSMITH    (GO STEVE,GO)
    
               and Taime Downe of Faster Pussycat..........
                     
                               Frizzzzzzzzzzzzzkid
    
504.147Tate, Harnell, Dio...CAVLRY::ROBRTurn this mutha out!Wed Mar 20 1991 20:419
    
    AAAAhahahahahahahahaha!!!
    
    Oh, those *ARE* some great voices!!
    
    Ahahahahahahahaaaaaa....
    
    Right Buck?  Smokin!
    
504.148Harnell, Mercury, Tate...CAVLRY::BUCKWicked fan curves from hell!Wed Mar 20 1991 22:251
    Oh yeah, I fully agree Rob, my top 3 fer sure!!
504.149DUCK::PERKINSPPositive Mental OctopusThu Mar 21 1991 06:4112
    
    Well it just goes to show that you guys don't know what you're talking
    about!!!  8^)
    
    Glenn Danzig
    Jaymz Hatefield
    Anthony Keidis
    Tom Araya
    
    8^)
    
    Flip
504.150MILKWY::SLABOUNTYStealth :== gray car in fogThu Mar 21 1991 10:369
    
    	Rob Halford
    	Geoff Tate
    
    	Honorable mention for the lead singer of Lizzie Borden.  Is
    	he the lead singer, or is that just the band's name?
    
    							GTI
    
504.151CHEFS::DALLISONStick it to ya!Thu Mar 21 1991 11:076
    
    Geoff Tate
    David Coverdale
    Ronnie James Dio
    Mark Slaughter
    Omi Logan (or whatever his name is - Lynch Mob)
504.152VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKThu Mar 21 1991 11:176
    
    My tops and always will be:
    
    1. Michael Kiske
    2. Bruce Dickinson (sorry Bruce, Mike kicks your butt!)
    3. Michael Sweet
504.153CAVLRY::BUCKWicked fan curves from hell!Thu Mar 21 1991 11:345
    -1
    
    Both Mike's on your list kick Bruce's butt!!!
    
    Bruce is the WORST imho!
504.154NEEPS::IRVINEyoung enough not to choose itThu Mar 21 1991 11:356
    After concideration, my top 5 would be (not in order)
    
    Tate, Coverdale, Bon Scott (rip), geddy Lee, Plant
    
    
    
504.155KETJE::VLASIUThu Mar 21 1991 13:2721
Re. GTI

Lizzy Borden is also the name of the singer and I agree that he's one of the
very best singers.

Now again a best singer list:

Geoff Tate
the singer from Lethal (close to Geoff Tate)
Lizzy Borden
Glen Danzig
Tom Araya
the singer from Forbidden
David Wayne
David Byron (R.I.P)
Michael Kiske and Gamma Ray's singer (easy to confuse them both)
Hittman's singer
Freddie Mercury (he still has a great voice)
and so on..

Sorin
504.156CSC32::J_HERNANDEZGreenpiece,WhatALeprichaunGetsThu Mar 21 1991 13:482
    Hanover Fist had the best voice in Heavy Metal. I roll every time I
    hear it.
504.157STERN!!!!!! Hangings too good for 'em!VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKThu Mar 21 1991 14:422
    
    Agagagaga!
504.158Ok then how about Blackie Lawless!BTOVT::BRONSONThis AXE was made for choppin'!Thu Mar 21 1991 15:104
    
      Wayne Newton!
    
               R.B.
504.159BTOVT::BAGDY_MStill in a dense fog I seeThu Mar 21 1991 15:1312
504.160BREAK FROM THE MOLD......COMET::CARTERJThu Mar 21 1991 15:5812
      I  don't pick voices that technically are the best.
    
                I like the one's that have their own personality,that
    I believe are fun to listen to.
        Tate?Did you say Dio?  yawn..............boring
    
                  Now Harnell I agree with!!
    
                              Tate belongs in opera......
    
                       Frizkid
    
504.161Spike Jones!UPWARD::HEISERej :== @via_music.comThu Mar 21 1991 16:271
    
504.162MILKWY::SLABOUNTYStealth :== gray car in fogThu Mar 21 1991 19:077
    
    	Spike Jones - heavy metal?  Not really.  8^)
    
    	But he is great!!
    
    							GTI
    
504.163SHE IS SO DREAMY!!1COMET::FRISBYAThu Mar 21 1991 19:1610
               JANIS JOPLIN! 
    
            That who I forgot...........8*)
    
                  Free shots......Go ahead.....
    
                  Sticks and stones........
    
                                Frizkid
    
504.164Some longtime favoritesENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATThu Mar 21 1991 23:4211
    
    Lemmy
    Dave Mustain
    Brian Johnson
    Ted Nugent
    
    
    
    
    
                                 DEEBS
504.165KETJE::VLASIUFri Mar 22 1991 11:0111
    In my last reply I didn't metion the names of the singers from
    Forbidden and Lethal. Here they are:
    
    Russ Anderson (Forbidden)
    Tom Mallicoat (Lethal)
    
    and I add:
    
    Harry "The tyrant" Conklin from Titan Force
    
    Sorin
504.166favsMASALA::IGOLDIEThe Incendiary PreacherFri Mar 22 1991 11:278
    here is my 2c
    
    Joey Belladonna(Anthrax)
    Goeff Tate     (queensryche)
    Graham Bonnet  
    Dave Meniketti (ex Y & T)
    
     I kinda like a bluesy feel to vocals sometimes,just for variety
504.167CHEFS::DALLISONStick it to ya!Sun Mar 24 1991 14:104
    
    Add one more to my list :-
    
    Carl Albert - Vicious Rumours
504.168don't you waitMASALA::IGOLDIEThe Incendiary PreacherMon Mar 25 1991 06:276
    re-1
    this guy rips,I dug out their Digital Dictator lp and played it to
    death,think I'll get their previous lp with Vinnie Moore.
    
    
                                            Staynz
504.169KETJE::VLASIUMon Mar 25 1991 06:597
    Re. last 2
    
    Yes, Vicious Rumors' singer is very good. Staynz, you should also
    search their album from 1990 (Vicious Rumors) because it's a very good
    one.
    
    Sorin
504.170SONATA::SFESSLERChunkaslabba!Tue Jul 02 1991 19:318
    Joe Lynn Turner, Geoff Tate, Rik Emmett, Gil Moore, Ian Gillan, Glen
    Danzig, Michael Sweet, Janet Gardiner (?) of Vixen, Steelheart's lead
    vocalist.  
    
    When I think of more, you'll hear from me.
    
    Fess
    
504.171SONATA::SFESSLERChunkaslabba!Tue Jul 02 1991 19:334
    I almost forgot Freddie Mercury - esp. on tracks like "Princes of the
    Universe" and "Gimme the Prize (Kurgan's Theme)"
    
    Fess
504.172Everyone's a starCAVLRY::BUCKJoin the John Sununu Frequent Flyer Program TODAY!Tue Jul 02 1991 19:391
    Freddie Mercury, Tony Harnell, Geoff Tate...catch my drift?
504.173SUBURB::COOKSWhite Punks On DopeWed Jul 03 1991 10:369
    Freddie Mercury and Geoff Tate sound dreadful to me.
    
    I much prefer Chuck from Death,Barney from Napalm Death,and Mr Feotus
    from Intense Mutilation.
    
    At least they can sing properly.Ho!Ho!
    
    Joe Strummer.
    
504.174CSC32::J_HERNANDEZWell, well, well my MichelleWed Jul 03 1991 13:551
    Hanover Fist or Ard. 
504.175SOURCE::WHITMANWed Jul 03 1991 15:065
    
    
    re:-1
    
    Hangins to good for'em!
504.176CSC32::J_HERNANDEZWell, well, well my MichelleWed Jul 03 1991 15:381
    Burn'ins too good for 'em!
504.177HEAVY METAL RULES!!!COMET::FRISBYAMudkicker,kick...Wed Jul 03 1991 15:407
      HE should be ripped into:
    
       LITTLE BITSY PEICES!!!!!
    
    
                           Frizkid
    
504.178CSC32::J_HERNANDEZWell, well, well my MichelleWed Jul 03 1991 15:422
    And buried ALIVE!!!
    
504.179VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowWed Jul 03 1991 16:132
    
    STERN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
504.180That song is killer!COMET::FRISBYAMudkicker,kick...Wed Jul 03 1991 19:067
     INTRO:To Cheap Trick
    
             No ones going to give it away
               They make it hard for the people today
                 To get what you what you got to do it yourself..
    
                     
504.181Hughes Thrall kicked!NEWOA::SCHANZER_DMon Nov 02 1992 11:553
    Glenn Hughes - 'nuff said.
    
    Dieter.
504.182CAVLRY::BUCKIs this supposed to be a chance?Mon Nov 02 1992 11:5912
    >Glenn Hughes - 'nuff said.
    
    NOT!
    
    The one time I saw the fat git with the Sabs, this guy couldn't even  
    TALK, let alone sing!!  
    
      _    /|   
      \'o.O'    
      =(___)=   Aack!!!
         U      
    
504.183Hows your axe Buck??NEWOA::SCHANZER_DFri Nov 06 1992 14:386
504.184BONZO...THIS GUY *IS* GOD!COMET::FRISBYABed of RosesFri Nov 06 1992 17:364
    Steve Tyler....
    
     Friz
    
504.185BUSY::ESCOBAREveryStepBringsMeCloserToMyLastFri Nov 06 1992 17:396
    
    Re: -1
    
    Sha.
    
    
504.186Who's better?COMET::FRISBYABed of RosesFri Nov 06 1992 17:412
    Double sha back
    
504.187CAVLRY::BUCKHe's given me youFri Nov 06 1992 17:425
    -1
    
    Do you mean, who has more "talent"?
    
    /brc
504.188NEMAIL::MERCIERHeAd Like a HoleFri Nov 06 1992 17:456
    Chris Cornell
    
    The Guy from AiC....
    
    
    Im ducking now...........
504.189Seasons of witherCOMET::FRISBYABed of RosesFri Nov 06 1992 17:469
    No....
    
     WTF cares about "talent"?  
    
    Hint: No matter WHO you say...Said person will NOT be better than
    Steven Tyler in MY mind. So give it up...
    
     Friz
    
504.190Put that in your pipe and smoke itBOVES::FENNELLIs it true, the thangs they say about you?Fri Nov 06 1992 17:582
Noddy Holder

504.191KDX200::COOPERI even use TONE soap !!Fri Nov 06 1992 18:286
    Who's better than Steven Tyler  ??
    Well, IMMO:
    
    Geoff Tate
    
    Simple eh ??
504.192BUSY::ESCOBAREveryStepBringsMeCloserToMyLastFri Nov 06 1992 18:518
    
    
    >> Geoff Tate
    
    	The best vocalist in H_M. Period.
    
    
    
504.193MSBCS::MCBRIDEWon't you be my neighbor?Fri Nov 06 1992 18:546
    
    OMIGAWD.  I've actually found something that Escobarf and I
    agree on!
    
    Geoff Tate is God.  (except when KaTe Bush is...)
    
504.194:-)MSBCS::MCBRIDEWon't you be my neighbor?Fri Nov 06 1992 18:541
    
504.195Noddy!!!!! HA!HA!HA! Thanks that was funny!COMET::FRISBYABed of RosesFri Nov 06 1992 19:256
    OHHHHHHHHHHHHH PLEASE!!!!!!! THAT yoddler?
    
     Please......ST slays him!
    
     Friz
    
504.196MSBCS::MCBRIDEWon't you be my neighbor?Fri Nov 06 1992 19:286
    
    Tyler is one of the elder gods, no argument there, but Geoff Tate
    FACKING R00LZ!!
    
    -- 
    Kevin
504.197BUSY::ESCOBAREveryStepBringsMeCloserToMyLastFri Nov 06 1992 19:326
    
    Tyler .vs. Tate?
    
    Not even a contest.
    
    
504.198MSBCS::MCBRIDEWon't you be my neighbor?Fri Nov 06 1992 19:345
    
    Of course it wouldn't be a contest.  They've got completely
    different styles.  You can't compare them, but they're both
    gods.
    
504.199and is twice Geoff's age!CAVLRY::BUCKHe's given me youFri Nov 06 1992 19:451
    Tyler doesn't have DAFS though
504.200BUSY::ESCOBAREveryStepBringsMeCloserToMyLastFri Nov 06 1992 19:495
    
    Re: .199
    
    Agreed. That DAFS is pretty rude.
    
504.201COMPLX::FERRISTrue wisdom only comes from painFri Nov 06 1992 20:096
    
     I always thought Sam Kinnison had a great voice for metal. Remember
    the vid he did "Wild Thing" with Miss Hahn? Yum.
    
                                                      mike
    
504.203blekGOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Fri Nov 06 1992 20:593
    re: Mike F.
    
    With Ms. BLIMP you mean, aaaaaack!
504.204COMPLX::FERRISTrue wisdom only comes from painMon Nov 09 1992 12:027
    
    
    Greg, Ms BLIMP! you obviously have not seen the new Playboy. I don't
    care if they are fake, she looks great.
    
                                              mike
    
504.205Double your pleasure with TWO blimps...COMET::FRISBYABed of RosesMon Nov 09 1992 12:3110
    Mike: I'd rather have ATTITUDE **IN YOUR FACE** than talent.
     But I guess since you really don't plan om MAKING IT BIG....You
    should look for "talent".
    The best musicians have an equal balance of both...
    
    Chris: You zit poppin',puberty wankin',no brain headbanger...TYLER
    rules....No competition what so ever! Get a life....
    
               Friz
    
504.208GOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Mon Nov 09 1992 14:4510
>    Greg, Ms BLIMP! you obviously have not seen the new Playboy. I don't
>    care if they are fake, she looks great.
    
    No, I haven't seen it (and probably won't), I was just talkin about in
    that video you mentioned.  I found her unappealing to the eye there,
    and never understood all the people talkin her up about it.
    
    But...Slash was a riot in that one!
      
    gh
504.209COMET::FRISBYABed of RosesMon Nov 09 1992 15:5420
    > I never claimed that and you're wrong for assuming it.  I'd be on the
    > verge of being the 2nd member in HM to get signed if the timing was
    >right this time around.  I *KNOW* I'll get my chance someday so I'm not
    >worried about it. 
    
    I guess I am wrong for assuming that....BUT 
    On the verge of getting signed is alot different that being signed
    and getting signed and being successful is alot different.
      
    >  Looks like you contradicted yourself here.
    
     Where?
    
    >  Music isn't the only
    > business where people with attitudes go nowhere fast.
    
     What does this mean?
    
      Friz
    
504.211Here ya go....COMET::FRISBYABed of RosesMon Nov 09 1992 16:4118
    Ah.. I see where you are confused.
    
    What I was trying to say, allthough it was a bit vague, is that I would 
    rather have attitude in a guitarist than talent. Example:Ace
    Frehley,Mick Mars,Kurt Cobain...They have sold out more arenas than Vai
    or Satch will ever dream of. That's if you consider 'success' by how
    many arenas a person can sell out. I don't think that is true all the
    time...I consider Yngwie to be a success because he started a major
    trend for back then and shall always be credited for it.
    Whether he chooses to do anything with his ego/talent these days is 
    up to him. Allthough is trend has ended and his style is not too
    popular these days, I still consider him a success.
    
    As for myself...I'd like to think I have more talent than ego.
        As for my ego it is pretty non-existent...
    
    friz
    
504.212CAVLRY::BUCKtell me Gray SealMon Nov 09 1992 16:5022
    Friz,
    
    We're not saying Yngwie doesn't deserve credit for his former success.
    I mean, it was quite a feat for a 17 year old guitarist from Sweden who
    spoke little english to get his tapes to a record producer in LA, get
    him signed and moved to the US, and then have 3 albums under his belt
    within 2 years!!  It was a big deal, but unfortuately, Yngwie let it
    all go to his head.  When he wanted to play all the instruments on his
    albums, direct his band, write all the songs and produce his albums, he
    started putting out crap, because he does not have the talent to do all
    of that stuff and produce quality work.  Prince has the talent  to do
    all that stuff and produce a great product, but Yngwie doesn't.  
    
    To me, Yngwie's best stuff was his early BAND days, when he contributed
    to the writing, and let the production to a professional.  Once he 
    tried to control everything, it just fell apart.
    
    Today, Yngwie cannot PAY people to play in his band!  It's just like
    those other "fast" guitarists ... Darren Householder (kicked out of
    Jeff Pilson's band), Toshi Iseda (cannot keep a band due to his tude,
    was recently kicked out of Heaven's Edge), Tommy McClearen (kicked out
    of UFO)...shall I go on?? 
504.214but I guess that is debatable ;')CAVLRY::BUCKtell me Gray SealMon Nov 09 1992 16:541
    I don't consider myself to have an ego
504.216POSEUR ALERT!GOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Mon Nov 09 1992 17:3815
504.217PLaying the devil's advacate. 8))))))COMET::FRISBYABed of RosesMon Nov 09 1992 20:0021
    Greg: OUCH! That was undeserving.  I have met one guitar player here
    that doesn't have a tude'...Greg House. The reason I don't play in a
    band with Greg is the totally different styles and we're not in 
    the same age group.<---Yes...This does mean quite alot to me.
     
         It has nothing to do with if he sucks or not because that
    is something I wouldn't know.
    
    Buck: I agree...I've been baiting you this whole time.
    I don't REALLY like Yngwie that much...EXCEPT FOR THE STEELER dAYZ!!
    I think he's quite the pompous @ss myself. 
         
    I agree that the players with tude..GO NOWHERE and that's the way it
    should be.
    PLease do go on with your list of fret burners that inhale because of
    attitue....I find it quite funny!
    
    Mike: Humble is a good word.
    
          Friz
    
504.218SUBURB::COOKSit`s poptabulously bonkers mateWed Nov 18 1992 11:574
    Lee Dorain ex Napalm Death and now Cathedral. 
    
    er,perhaps not.
    
504.220CONTRA::BEL_KWINITHDangerous but worth the riskThu Dec 10 1992 07:385
    
    tnt = tony (i don't sound as good as i used to because i've been
    gargling with razor blades) harnell.
    
    
504.221pretty good singer tooFRETZ::HEISERJesus: the reason for the seasonThu Dec 10 1992 15:122
>    Ann Wilson (what a set of lungs she has!  Who cares what she looks
>    like!?)
504.222They are around but not were I come from...SALEM::STIGFri Aug 27 1993 16:409
    How about all the greats who made Hearing Aid...What a cast of singers,
    the likes of Geoff Tate, Rob Halford, Ronnie James Dio, Eric Bloom,
    Paul Shortino, etc...   Christian rock artist also, Greg X. Volz, John
    Elefante, Michael Sweet, etc...I can go on and on...
    
    
                                                   stig
    
         
504.223There's no pressure besides brilliance.POLAR::TYSICKThu Apr 04 1996 15:3022
    
    	Well again I've found one that's been dormant for 2 1/2 years...
    
    Some of my fav's are...
    
    	       *Artist - Group*
    	  Layne Staley - Alice in Chains
    	Jeryy Cantrell - Alice in Chains (Would replace Layne, if Layne
                                           ever O.D.'s)
         Chris Cornell - SoundGarden (Not as good live!)
           Sammy Hagar - VanHalen
    	David Lee Roth - EX-VanHalen
    	?Corey Glover? - Living Color
          Paul Stanley - Kiss
          Gene Simmons - Kiss
    		    ME - In the shower!
    
    	H.A.G.O.,
    
    		 J
    
    
504.224DAGWUD::FLATTERYThu Apr 04 1996 15:554
    ...re: -1..apparently you didn't hear DLR on the tonight show when he
    was on some months ago...i doubt you'd think he had one of the best
    voices anywhere outside of a cat in heat-a-thon.....he was chillingly
    bad............/k
504.225EDWIN::HOOKERThu Apr 04 1996 15:566
    Re: J
    
    Allright !! A true Van-Halen fan !  Yes !
    
    Shane, who knew there had to be another out there who liked both
    Sammy and Diamond Dave                   
504.226Paully's pick !POLAR::RENAUDPwaitin' for the Easter Beagle!Thu Apr 04 1996 16:151
    Live or recorded...Geoff Tate of Queensryche!
504.227METALX::SWANSONDefender 2000Thu Apr 04 1996 16:3816
Layne Stayley?  Best Voice in Heavy Metal??  My opinion of a "best voice", is
one that sounds excellent, that nobody else can sound like.  After all, if
others can copy the voice, it's not a "one-of-a-kind" voice that oozes
greatness.

IMO, Layne Stayley's voice would be fairly easy for many vocalists to duplicate.

Examples of ones that are not are (in no particular order):

Ronnie James Dio.
Robert Plant (in the old zep days)
Ozzy Osbourne
Steven Tyler
Rob Halford

Ken
504.228VINCE AND ROTH 1 & 2...KDCA03::CDCUP_TORRENGotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burnThu Apr 04 1996 16:3914
    
    	Hager - Blows
    	Roth - Rules
    
    Other greats include; Vince Neil
    			  Stephen Percy (Ratt)
                          Ozzy
    			  Taime Down (Faster PussyCat)
    			  Philip Lewis (LA Guns)
    			  Rob Zombie
    			  And the Dude from Helmet...
    
    	Bobby T
    
504.229BUSY::SLABOUNTYCan you hear the drums, Fernando?Thu Apr 04 1996 16:486
    
    	Layne Stayley gets 2 strikes ... not a great voice, and not H_M.
    
    	And he's not very good looking, so I'd say that's strike 3.
    
    
504.230DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Apr 04 1996 16:516
    Since about a zillion people insist (and I won't argue) that they
    are really a heavy metal band:
    
    	Steve Walsh of Kansas
    
    
504.231HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Thu Apr 04 1996 16:5312
Robert Plant still sounded pretty good when I heard him last spring at the
Boston Garden.

He can run hot and cold.

I also thought that Axl Rose sounded great when I saw him at Sullivan Stadium. 
It was right around the time of the MTV music awards so he'd had 4-5 days off
before the show and his voice was incredible.  But then, I've heard him when
he's bad and no one is worse than Axl on a bad night.



504.232EDWIN::HOOKERThu Apr 04 1996 18:167
    Re:-1
    >>no one is worse than Axl on a bad night
    
    Try Tom Petty on a *good* night or that other guy who mumbles and
    writes good songs but can't sing worth shite...what's his name?
    
    Shane, who's running down a dream
504.233POWDML::BUCKLEYThu Apr 04 1996 18:191
    Steven Pearcy?  NO WAY -- that guy blew chunks!
504.234HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Thu Apr 04 1996 18:274
How about the blonde guy from ??? (duh,  They did Uncle Tom's Cabin - Jamie???)


Nelson?
504.235DAGWUD::FLATTERYThu Apr 04 1996 18:292
    i believe you're referring to janie lane??>...;")....
    
504.236BUSY::SLABOUNTYCatch you later!!Thu Apr 04 1996 19:073
    
    	Yes, from Warrant.
    
504.237SCASS1::BARBER_Anod nod bang flip twirl twirlThu Apr 04 1996 19:091
    Phil Anselmo
504.238HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Thu Apr 04 1996 19:263
Thank you, now I can sleep tonight  :-)

Warrant - I knew it was a band Friz used to love...
504.239Tune that thing wouldja?DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Apr 04 1996 19:306
    >>>no one is worse than Axl on a bad night
    
    >>Try Tom Petty on a *good* night or that other guy who mumbles and
    >>writes good songs but can't sing worth shite...what's his name?
    
    Neil Young, the only voice with a builtin whammy bar.
504.240BUSY::SLABOUNTYCatch you later!!Thu Apr 04 1996 19:313
    
    	And Bob Dylan, of course.
    
504.241DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Apr 04 1996 19:4010
    >>>>no one is worse than Axl on a bad night
    
    >>>Try Tom Petty on a *good* night or that other guy who mumbles and
    >>>writes good songs but can't sing worth shite...what's his name?
    
    >> Neil Young, the only voice with a builtin whammy bar.
    
    >And Bob Dylan, of course.
    
    The nicest thing I can say about Tom Petty is that he's a Dylan wanna-be.
504.242It just occurred to meDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Apr 04 1996 19:416
    >>>Try Tom Petty on a *good* night or that other guy who mumbles and
    >>>writes good songs but can't sing worth shite...what's his name?
    
    Tom Petty has never HAD a "good night".
    
    	db
504.243POLAR::LYLEnever play leapfrog with a unicornFri Apr 05 1996 04:489
    
    Bruce Dickenson's voice is kinda distinctive.
    Roger Water's (in the early Floyd dayz) was also distinctive, not too
    good, but distinctive.
    
    I disagree with Robert Plant's Zep dayz... does David Coverdale ring a
    bell??
    
    Dave
504.244CASINO::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Fri Apr 05 1996 04:548
    
    > Bruce Dickenson's voice is kinda distinctive.
    
    I like his voice alot on that Dream Theater live thing doing
    "Perfect Strangers".
    
    Kev --
    
504.245some of my choicesSUBSYS::MSOUCYFri Apr 05 1996 09:2825
    
    re: -1
    
    That was Kevin LaBrie of Dream Theater, and he has a good voice.
    
    My favorites:
    
    Jon Oliva - Savatage
    Zachary  - Savatage (new singer. awesome voice)
    Fish - Marillion
    Geoff Tate - Queensryche
    Lane Staley - AIC
    Bruce Dickinson - Iron Maiden/Solo
    James Dewar - Robin Trower
    Chuck Billy - Testament (love his low end growls)
    singer for Catherine Wheel
    
    To name a few...I could go on (after I re-checked some of the liners!)
    
    As for VH, Hagar stinks, ESPECIALLY when he goes for higher notes..,
    and DLR, well, his time has come and gone. All the others are poseurs
    from the 80's! Like Ratt and Warrant!!  ;-)
    
    
    
504.246PATE::SCHIAVONEWe take donations from all denominationsFri Apr 05 1996 10:323

	Mumbles, you mean Michael Stipe...
504.247BUSY::SLABOUNTYDancin' on CoalsFri Apr 05 1996 11:394
    
    	Mike, Bruce Dickinson did the lead vocals on Dream Theater's
    	"Perfect Strangers" cover.
    
504.248Was it something I said, held against me ? (AIC)POLAR::TYSICKFri Apr 05 1996 11:4226
    
    Re: .224
    		Granted now DLR bites, but upto 'round the early 90's he still
    had it!
    
    Re: .226	
    		Paul: Aw yeah how could I forget Geoff Tate an outstanding 
    voice!
    
    Re: .232	
    		DYLAN is the worst singing, worst performing, muttering,
    refer tokin', putz that's ever roamed the earth! The only thing he can 
    do right is write lyrics.
    
    Re: .245	
    		Apparently you've never seen Sammy live...he rules and VH
    couldn't find a better replacement (as devastated as I was to see Roth
    go) and as far as hitting high notes...I've seen bats fly into walls
    due to Sammy's voice reaching frequencies that could shatter a DIAMOND!
    
    	And who ever dissd' Layne...Give your head a shake!!!
    
    	H.A.G.O.,
    
    		 J 
       
504.249METALX::SWANSONDefender 2000Fri Apr 05 1996 12:058
>does David Coverdale ring a bell??

Actually, I think Coverdale has got a good voice.  He may sound a little like
a Robert Plant wannabe, but not as bad as that guy in that major "zep clone"
band.... what was the name of them?  One of their album covers had nothing but
a big speaker on it.

Ken
504.250HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Fri Apr 05 1996 12:331
Kingdom Come
504.251BUSY::SLABOUNTYDo ya wanna bump and grind with me?Fri Apr 05 1996 12:333
    
    	Kingdom Come
    
504.252POLAR::RENAUDPwaitin' for the Easter Beagle!Fri Apr 05 1996 12:364
    and the geeks name is Lenny.
    
    Paully
    
504.253HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Fri Apr 05 1996 12:371
What's that echo in here?
504.254BUSY::SLABOUNTYDo you wanna bang heads with me?Fri Apr 05 1996 13:083
    
    	[here ... here ... here]
    
504.255METALX::SWANSONDefender 2000Fri Apr 05 1996 13:113
Yeah, Kingdom Come is who I was thinking of.

Damn, now I wish I could forget that name again!  :')
504.256HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Fri Apr 05 1996 13:291
Or as Plant called them, Kingdom Clone
504.257BUSY::SLABOUNTYDo you wanna bang heads with me?Fri Apr 05 1996 13:354
    
    	Sour grapes, that's all it was.  He was just jealous that he
    	didn't sound that good.
    
504.258doesn't sound like himSUBSYS::MSOUCYFri Apr 05 1996 15:018
    
    re: -1
    
    Ah, I can check the liner, but it SURE sounds like Kevin Labrie, and
    those two don't really sound much alike, especially in the high end.
    
    Mike
    
504.259BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't drink the (toilet) water.Fri Apr 05 1996 15:4417
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	...
    
2. "Perfect Strangers"
Deep Purple were an obvious choice as a band for us to cover. They were one of
the first bands to combine progressive elements with metallic overtones. They 
also use keyboards as a predominant and lead instrument in the same way that we 
do.  We originally chose and rehearsed "Child In Time", but on the day before 
the "Uncovered" show, we recorded a version of "Perfect Strangers" with Bruce 
Dickinson on vocals for his BBC1 radio show in England.  It felt so powerful 
and alive that we decided to go with this track instead.

    ...
504.260HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Fri Apr 05 1996 16:061
Child in Time is a much better song but I doubt many could handle the vocals.
504.261cool vocalist!SUBSYS::MSOUCYMon Apr 08 1996 10:276
    
    Almost forgot!
    
    Peter Steele for a singer!
    
    
504.262there are TWO versions!POWDML::BUCKLEYMon Apr 08 1996 11:0110
    RE: (Kevin) James LaBrie of Dream Theater...
    
    PERFECT STRANGERS
    
    - The cut on the "A Change of Seasons" album is Kevin/James.
    
    - The cut on GTI's CD, which is a BOOTLEG from the Ronnie Scott's
      gig in London, is the Bruce Dickenson version!
    
    Hope this clears up any confusion...
504.263yup, knew it was James!SUBSYS::MSOUCYMon Apr 08 1996 11:248
    
    re: -1
    
    I thought it was James singing because there is a definite difference
    between him and Bruce D. on the upper ranges! Actually all around
    differences!
    
    
504.264BUSY::SLABOUNTYFUBARMon Apr 08 1996 11:465
    
    	Oops, that explains quite a bit.  Sorry, Mike!!
    
    	I've never heard the studio version of James' version.
    
504.265W.e A.re S.exual P.ervertsKDCA03::CDCUP_TORRENGotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burnMon Apr 08 1996 11:494
    
    	Almost forgot good ol' Blackie Lawless...
    
    Bobby T
504.266mine is live on ACOS releaseSUBSYS::MSOUCYMon Apr 08 1996 12:298
    
    re: .264
    
    Actually Shawn, it is a live version, like their 'big medley', and
    Elton John/Zeppelin covers. And I believe it to be James Labrie singing
    cuzz it sure don't sound like Brucie Woocie on it! I will check the
    liner though when I get a chance, I could be wrong.
    
504.267POWDML::BUCKLEYMon Apr 08 1996 13:158
    Again, to avoid further confusion.
    
    The two versions -- Bruce's and James' -- are from the SAME LIVE SHOW!
    Difference is ... Bruce sang one, James sang the other -- period!
    
    James' version is on the A Change of Seasons EP.  Bruce's version is
    only available on rare bootleg discs (which I had sold one of these 
    to GTI).
504.268King DiamondFABSIX::M_VALERAFri Apr 12 1996 11:512
    
    	KING DIAMOND!
504.269Lemmy?N2DEEP::SHALLOWSubtract L, invert WFri May 03 1996 21:549
    From Yngwie's band...ohhhh what's his name??? Jeff Scott Soto?
    And of course Graham Bonnett from Alcatraz (yeah right)
    And Lemmy (Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way!)
    
    Geoff Tate, Davis Coverdale, Ronnie James Dio, Sammy Hagar, DLR, 
    The singer from Mr. Big, Meatloaf, Rob Halford, Bruce Dickenson,
    and more, but I can't think of the names...
    
    Bob
504.270BUSY::SLABOUNTYDILLIGAFMon May 06 1996 11:415
    
    	Graham Bonnett bores me.
    
    	I think I've said this before, maybe 15 or 20 times.