T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
---|
64.1 | DEF LEPPARD | SUBURB::DALLISON | If its too LOUD, you're too OLD | Wed May 25 1988 07:43 | 9 |
|
I like "commin' under fire" from Pyromania. Good track
I wasn't too keen on Hysteria coz I thought it didn't live up to
the previous Lep albums, but as the guys had problems they are excused
:-)
I like "Love Bites" from Hysteria, good ballard.
-Tony
|
64.2 | B A N G !!! | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | | Wed May 25 1988 10:39 | 7 |
| My fav DF song has got to be "Billy's Got A Gun" from Pryromania.
I don't see how anyone can sit still when that one's on. My least
fav is "Hysteria" nd I think the 2EZ boize know why..........
.... it's better to burn out ..... than fade way !!!!
Mr Scary II
|
64.3 | Move this to the appropriate topic if necessary | REGENT::GALLANT | An angel's face, a devil's grin... | Wed May 25 1988 11:30 | 12 |
|
I don't want to start a controvery here, but can someone answer
a question for me???
Rush is NOT HM by most people's standards, but Def Leppard
is?? Am I right?? Yo no comprende, amigo!!
/kimster
|
64.4 | confession..... | CVETTE::GONZALES | | Wed May 25 1988 11:37 | 18 |
|
I must confess that I have only just started listening to Heavy
Metal and all these AWESOME bands!! I don't know why it took
me so long to find this music but I guess it's better late than
never.
The only album of Def's that I have (right now) is Hysteria and
I think it is GREAT!!! Although the whole album is AWESOME I
must say that some of my most favorite songs on the album would
have to be Love Bites (it's true isn't it?) and Pour Some Sugar
on Me.
I can't wait -- July 30 at Great Woods - Def Leppard with Europe!!!
Tracy
|
64.6 | Kicks ass! | HAZEL::STARR | You grow up and you calm down | Wed May 25 1988 12:36 | 5 |
| Favorite song:
"Rock 'Til You Drop" - Pyromania
Alan S.
|
64.7 | My opinion ... | TIGER::SLABOUNTY | A Momentary Lapse of Reason | Wed May 25 1988 12:55 | 25 |
|
RE: Kim
Def Leppard is going through their 'wimping out' stage
right now. They're trying to play for the teenage girls
(who buy more records than most of the other groups) rat-
her than satisfy us Metalheads.
I disagree with Pete, though - I love Pyromania. Almost
(if not every) song is fantastic (my favorite? Coming
Under Fire). I haven't heard much from the first two
albums, so can't make any observations. On the contrary,
I've heard TOO MUCH from Hysteria (2 or 3 songs) and have
made my judgment known OFTEN.
Rush never really was HM, but had 'hints' of HM in some
of their songs. Besides a few exceptions, they are real-
ly a medium-hard rock band, which is of course a matter
of opinion.
If anyone wants to continue this, please start another
topic (or add on to another one already in progress).
GTI
|
64.9 | Great band! | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Greg House - CSC/CS | Wed May 25 1988 14:30 | 7 |
| Also in line with the current consensus in this note, I thought
that 'High & Dry' was their best. I liked Pyromania too. Hysteria
is ok, but not what the prev albums were.
re: .-1 I totally agree with WJB on Europe, excuse me while I puke.
gh
|
64.10 | These guys crank | VLSBOS::COSTA | | Wed May 25 1988 19:29 | 9 |
|
I've got all of Leps tapes. I think every one of 'em is great.
Currently got On Thru The Night and High 'n Dry in the house and
Pyro and Hysteria in the sled. Can't get enuff. I like all of their
songs. Haven't heard the first two in a long time. Favs right now
are Love Bites, Animal, Pour Some Sugar On Me, Billy's Got A Gun...
Heck I like em all! HEH HEH!!
Dave
|
64.11 | Heart of Steel | VLSBOS::COSTA | | Wed May 25 1988 19:42 | 13 |
|
Also a note of great success with this band. Like Buck said,
these guys were in wicked debt before Hysteria. Their efforts
for this album has propelled them in the metal standings as a
band who can pull their own weight. The monetary value of this band
has well exceeded what the promoters had ever hoped. My metal loyalty
goes out to Rick Allen. For someone to come back from a car crash
with one arm and not give up, practice his brains out with a
new set of bangs to a top level drummer is one of the greatest
comebacks in metal today. I'll just say, Thank you Rick Allen
for not quitting on us.
Dave
|
64.12 | HIGH AND NEVER DRY!!!! | USADEC::BJUBINVILLE | | Thu May 26 1988 03:57 | 23 |
| Oh SH*T! What did I start??????
Of course these notes are for people to reply with their own
opinions. I personally hate when people knock me(us) Lep fan's
down.
I like all of Def Lep's LP's. Afew songs I like are Pour
Some Sugar On Me, Let It GO and Rock of Ages. I would like to agree
with the comment of Rick Allen. I still have all the paper clippings
and interviews of Rick's accident. The main reason they were in
such debt was because of Rick. They were working on the new album
when this happened. Since Rick decided not to quit and everyone
else decided to keep him, they reviewed all of their work while
Rick recovered and adjusted. They made major changes on the songs
of the Hysteria album. Some songs such as "Rocket" is too long.
All of the talk of Reagan is Bullsh*t. I don't feal proud flying
down Rt. 9 with this song cranked on my Blap. speakers.
Brian
Kim, thanks for note of confidence!!!!!!! :*(
|
64.13 | Pour Some Sugar Baby! | MKFSA::ROY | GOING,GOING,GONE | Thu May 26 1988 12:22 | 6 |
| High and Dry is the real Leppard. Pyromania was a bit more commercial
and Hysteria (I do like a couple of songs) is definitely geared
to bubble-gum chewing teeny-bopper metalheads. Not us veterans of
the heavy metal trenches. Ditto on Europe.
Riffmaster Roy
|
64.14 | RISE UP, GATHER 'ROUND | USADEC::BJUBINVILLE | | Mon Jun 13 1988 09:16 | 8 |
| Did anyone happen to hear the DEF LEP tour was going? any reports
or opinions?
I need two tickets for Great Woods inthe seat section! Can
anyone help me out?
Bri
|
64.15 | I'm going! | CVETTE::GONZALES | You were the first, you'll be the last | Mon Jun 13 1988 10:37 | 14 |
|
Brian -
I'd love to help you out with both your questions but I'm sorry
to report that I can't. If I had an extra ticket I'd give it
to you but unfortunately they're a popular bunch of guys. I
already have about 10 people going.
Tracy
I'm so psyched - I can't wait for July 30!!
|
64.16 | MOSAT pick Def Leppard 3 to 1 over all the rest | HSSWS1::GREG | Rambo is a knee-jerk liberal! | Fri Jul 22 1988 20:28 | 22 |
|
Def Leppard is now officially my current favorite band.
After falling madly in love with practically everything
on Hysteria (most notably Excitable and Pour Some Sugar
On Me), I rushed out and purchased every other tape they've
made. So far I have only had a chance to listen to
Pyromania all the way through, but (in my opinion) it
is just as good as Hysteria, with just as many killer
tunes.
One thing I particularly like about Def Leppard is that
(unlike most bands) each album is chock full of great music.
Most bands give you one or two good songs with about 8 to 10
filler tunes that rightfully belong in the trash pile. Even
the so-so tunes on the Def Leppard albums are better than
most bands 'good stuff'.
Call me a Def Leppard fan for life... as far as I'm concerned
they are the best of contemporary pop-metal.
-=[MOSAT]=-
(Def Leppard rules!)
|
64.18 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | SET MODE/WORM II | Mon Jul 25 1988 12:35 | 5 |
| Also, "Bringing On The Heartache" and the instrumental that follows
will blister your brain !!!
Mr Scary II
|
64.19 | High and DRY! | CSC32::G_HOUSE | That's MR. Squid Head, to YOU! | Mon Jul 25 1988 15:16 | 12 |
| I have to agree! "High and Dry" is my favorite too, followed closely
by "Pyromania". I saw them open for Ted Nugent right after H&D
came out and they kicked butt. I'd like to see them again now.
Not so sure I wanna fight my way through the teenie boppers for
it though...
Scary is correct...that instrumental after Bringing on the Heartache is
cool (what is that thing called, something with a number in it)! Also
if you have the newer version of H&D, there are two different mixes of
BringinOTH on there, a nice extra.
gh
|
64.21 | Yo Buck !!!! :-) | SUBURB::DALLISON | may your chickens grow lips | Tue Jul 26 1988 07:05 | 2 |
|
sigh........my hero
|
64.23 | | HSSWS1::GREG | Rambo is a knee-jerk liberal! | Tue Jul 26 1988 12:25 | 8 |
| re: .22
.22> Even I like High & Dry and I don't like Def Leppard.
I haven't decided whether to publicly chastise you for that
remark... you know you deserve it.
-=[MOSAT]=-
|
64.25 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | SET MODE/WORM II | Tue Jul 26 1988 12:49 | 7 |
| re: .24
.......... and took a rough stone (High and Dry) and polished into
diamonds .................... IMO
Mr Scary II
|
64.28 | Different circumstances, different tastes | HSSWS1::GREG | Rambo is a knee-jerk liberal! | Tue Jul 26 1988 14:43 | 9 |
| re: .27
Well, pop-metal has one advantage over the thrash/speed
stuff... it gets some airplay. And in a city (like Houston)
which has NO hard-rock radio, even pop-metal is a breath of
fresh air amidst a veritable bog of top-40/CW crap-noise.
-=[MOSAT]=-
(who likes Pyromania and Hysteria... A LOT)
|
64.30 | Rise up, gather round ... | ANT::SLABOUNTY | A Momentary Lapse of Reason | Tue Jul 26 1988 15:23 | 5 |
|
Pyromania is the best thing they've ever done.
Shawn GTI
|
64.32 | | HSSWS1::GREG | Rambo is a knee-jerk liberal! | Tue Jul 26 1988 15:53 | 6 |
| re: .31
Good one, Pete... buy you might have improved it by
saying either 'Hysterical' or 'Pyromaniacal' scream.
-=[MOSAT]=-
|
64.33 | Def's still great anyway | LAVA::LALLI | | Wed Jul 27 1988 06:18 | 27 |
|
Always the same problems with HM Maniacs...
Each time one of their favorite bands come out with a great
album, people (like me and you most of the time) buy it. Then
it got to a TOP-whatever and then they renounce to it.
HM fans are jealous people...they don't want HM bands to have success.
They don't want any not-HM fans to like the same band as they do.
Scorpions,Europe, or Def got money from singles bought by wimps...
Yes but don't confuse !
HM fan is the one that knows the whole LP, the previous ones
any details on the band' members and goes to the concert.
So what ? Don't worry about TOP-XX
Successful HM bands are still HM bands !
Come on...be tolerant
Didier "Long Live Rock & Roll"
|
64.34 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | may your chickens grow lips | Wed Jul 27 1988 07:17 | 12 |
|
re.33
I AGREE !!!!!!!!!!!
Thats one of the most intelligent replies I've ever read in this
conference.
Rock til you're crazy.......
-Tony
|
64.35 | | HSSWS1::GREG | Cry Havoc! And let slip the dogs of war | Wed Jul 27 1988 12:10 | 4 |
| re: .33
-=[MOSAT]=-
(who also agrees)
|
64.36 | | POWER::STARR | aka HAZEL::STARR | Wed Jul 27 1988 12:57 | 7 |
| re: .33
I agree also! Let the teeneboppers love'm now. We loved them before
and will continue to do so after the spotlight is gone! It's the
music that counts, not the sales or chart figures!
cat
|
64.37 | What a concept | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Squids eat Yuma AZ, Film at 11 | Wed Jul 27 1988 15:51 | 8 |
| re: .33
I agree as well! Just because something is popular doesn't mean
it's not good. While I think a lot of bands come out with commercial
stuff (which propogates itself when it succeeds), I think that most
have SOME of their root type music on succeding albums.
gh
|
64.39 | In concert | USADEC::CLUETT | | Mon Aug 01 1988 14:15 | 5 |
| How was Sat. nites show?
I couldn't get tix at the door- for once a concert was truly sold
out ahead of time.
All details wanted
|
64.40 | Def is cool! | CVETTE::GONZALES | | Tue Aug 02 1988 10:23 | 32 |
|
Well, let me tell you, the show was AWESOME!!
Europe, of course, was on first. They played from 7:30 - 8:15.
Being the Europe fan that I am I thought they were good. The only
thing I don't like about them is the way the announce the song they
are going to sing before they start singing it - very aggravating!!
Def didn't come on until 9:00. Everyone was getting real restless
waiting for them. They put their Hysteria banner up on stage and
when they came out to play the fun began! The played a lot of their
'old' songs like: Too Late, Stage Right (?), Rock of Ages, Photograph,
and Heartbreak. From the new album they played: Women, Hysteria,
Animal, Pour Some Sugar on Me, and Love Bites.
They also had an incredible laser show. The lighting on the stage
was great - the whole thing was outrageous!!
At one point Joe was talking to us while everyone else from the
band was backstage and he started saying that it had been a long
time since they came out with an album and he was asking/telling
us why that was so. Of course, now Rick Allen is out on stage and
he went over to him and had him stand up and he got the longest
and loudest standing ovation I have ever heard!!!
This being the first time I have seen Def in concert - I will never
forget it. Joe has a stage presence that is totally phenomenal!
He really knows how to keep the audience into it.
Tracy
|
64.41 | ... | ANT::SLABOUNTY | A Momentary Lapse of Reason | Tue Aug 02 1988 14:02 | 10 |
|
Tracy:
Stage Right = 'Stage Fright'
And if they promised not to play anything off of
'Hysteria' I'd definitely go to see them.
GTI
|
64.42 | Hysteria... GREAT METAL!!!! | HSSWS1::GREG | Your problems: Not my concern | Fri Aug 05 1988 03:51 | 20 |
| re: .41
Shawn,
I feel obligated to publicly humilaite you for your
last remark regarding the 'Hysteria' album. Sure, I
know your opinion on the matter... sure you have a right
to have that opinion... I'm here to inform you that you
also have the right to keep it to yourself!
I LOVE the 'Hysteria' album, and yes, I love 'High and
Dry' too... so get off their backs... PRONTO! Try listening
to the cuts that don't get airplay (or in this case, concert-
play) such as 'Excitable' (or practically anything on side
two of the tape).
DEF ROCKS, and I will truck no opinions to the contrary!
-=[MOSAT]=-
(still thinking of the best way to humilaite a co-moderator)
|
64.43 | DEF kicks a**!!! | CLBMED::SMCCORMICK | Hurricane Scott | Fri Aug 05 1988 21:33 | 8 |
|
RE-1
I couldn't have said it any better!!
Scott.
|
64.44 | | REGENT::GALLANT | The Wild Heart | Fri Aug 12 1988 11:45 | 11 |
|
anyone out there (within the MA area) going to get tickets
for Def Lep/Queensryche tomorrow and who would be willing
to pick me up a couple???
If so, send me mail...
/tig!
|
64.47 | HISTORIA | JANUS::BHARRISON | | Tue Sep 13 1988 11:56 | 25 |
64.48 | good value! | HAZEL::STARR | You ain't nothin' but fine, fine, fine! | Tue Sep 13 1988 13:14 | 6 |
| The video, Hystoria, just came out within the last week or so over
here in the U.S. It does indeed seem to be a bargain - a 90 minute
video for $19.95! I haven't seen it yet, so I can't give a review.
Were there any live songs on there?
cat
|
64.49 | LIVE LEP | JANUS::BHARRISON | | Tue Sep 13 1988 15:19 | 19 |
|
RE .48
The Hello America video was taken from a recording they did for
our Top of the Pops programme. It was never shown as it was recorded
in advance in case the single went anywhere. Sadly it didnt, so
the footage was shelved.
The American version of Pour some sugar on me was filmed live,
I dont know the name of the venue, but it was where the stage was
in the middle and the audience was all around it. Also there was
one other song recorded there, Im not sure but it may have been
Armageddon (sp?) it. This was screened in Britain, possibly US as
well.
Rumours were put about (in the video itself) that the rest of
the show was recorded and will be released later this year (around
Christmas) in Britain, look out for it.
Anyway, its my home time, See Ya - Brynn.
|
64.50 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Voices are calling me . . . | Thu Sep 15 1988 03:10 | 8 |
|
Not one of my favorite bands, but does anybody
know why they changed their name from DEAF
LEOPARD to DEF LEPPARD? When I saw them years
back, all their tour equipment had the former
stenciled on it.
|
64.51 | DEAF LEOP or DEF LEPP | JANUS::BHARRISON | and her legs went on forever... | Mon Sep 19 1988 08:14 | 29 |
| re .50
An extract from the Def Leppard book - Animal Instinct :
After a few weeks, there was some grumbling about the spelling of
deaf leopard. It was the high season for punk-rock in England and
bans like the flying lizards and the boomtown rats (featuring future
live aid impressario Bob Geldof) were all the rage. Deaf Leopard
were keen to get out and play, but not to pack pasty-faced,
spikey-topped chainsaw carrying troublemakers. Joe says it was Tony
Kenning's (first drummer) idea to change the spelling of the name.
Tony cant remember. Everrybody insists that the resemblance of the
new spelling - Def Leppard - to Led Zeppelin was strictly
unintentional. Whatever, it sounded good, looked good, and eventually
even Pete Willis, who thought the whole idea was "daft", came to
like it.
This all happened in late 1977, so what you probably saw stencilled
on their tour equipment was their idea of taking the piss out of
themselves, a little parody. They have done it in a couple of their
early videos also, written on the front of the bass drum etc.
I respect your opinion in not liking them too much, although
I still think they are FAB. (and kick Ass - for all the Americans
out there)
Anyway See Ya - Brynn.
the_still_a_devout_Def_Lepp_fan.
|
64.52 | I KNOW !!! | SUBURB::DALLISON | We want a shrubbury!!!! | Mon Sep 19 1988 10:04 | 10 |
64.53 | LOUD LEP !!!!!! | JANUS::BHARRISON | and her legs went on forever... | Mon Sep 19 1988 12:16 | 10 |
| re 52
Yeah I like to spread the faith, also since my car has no soundproofing
there tends to be a bit of overspill. Next time it'll probably be
Hign 'n' Dry as that is the latest addition to my CD collection.
See Ya - Brynn.
^ NOTE the other 'n'.
the_very_LOUD_Lep_fan.
|
64.64 | I'm bummin'... | NINJA::COOPER | WIMPS - Windows, Icons, Menus and Pulldowns | Tue Sep 27 1988 19:08 | 3 |
64.65 | good seats | EUCLID::OWEN | Lost on the silent planet | Tue Sep 27 1988 19:08 | 7 |
| re.61
It's a center stage concert. There shouldn't be a lousy seat in
the place. I've seen the show before. You and you're son should
love it.
Steve O
|
64.66 | | 56860::GALLANT | The Wild Heart | Tue Sep 27 1988 19:19 | 11 |
|
Well, I've decided that Chris and I are going. Actually,
the decision was mine. Anyways!
I still don't remember the seats and doubt that I'll
remember everyone else's, but it's tomorrow night,
and I'm psyched....
Tig~~
|
64.67 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Warning, warning, warning . . . | Wed Sep 28 1988 01:44 | 5 |
|
Now, how many people actually *sit* in the right
seats!
|
64.68 | Goin' tonight | EUCLID::OWEN | Lost on the silent planet | Wed Sep 28 1988 10:37 | 7 |
| re -.1
If you've got seats as good as mine, (section 124, rowJJ [7 rows
off of the floor] seat 10 or 11) You'd stay right where you were.
I'll post a review tomorrow. Queensryche should be incredible as
well!
|
64.74 | There may still be a chance! | EUCLID::OWEN | Lost on the silent planet | Wed Sep 28 1988 16:21 | 8 |
| to anyone in central Mass who wants to go....
The centrum usually releases some tickets at about 4:00pm and then
again after the opening act gets off of the stage (but who'd want
to miss Queensryche????) Anyway, get on the phone and get someone
out there to get some tickets.....
Steve O
|
64.75 | | HPSTEK::SKIEST | Light's are on but | Thu Sep 29 1988 11:02 | 7 |
|
Well lets here how the concert was.....
I'm heading there tonite
Steve
|
64.76 | Def Lep at the Centrum. wed night | EUCLID::OWEN | Lost on the silent planet | Thu Sep 29 1988 11:14 | 11 |
| Wow, my ears are ringing and my eyes are bugging out. Absolutely
incredible show. Queensryche kicked ass! and so did DEF LEP.
Center stage is the only way to go if the band can do it correctly.
and they did.
Anyone care to put up a song list, I wouldn't know where to start.
They played everythin I wanted to hear except "rockit"
Steve O
|
64.77 | Queensryche Forever! | ERASER::BUCKLEY | Take me down to Paradise City | Thu Sep 29 1988 12:31 | 24 |
| Queensryche had the BEST sound of any opening act I've ever heard!
They sounded JUST like the record, and that's no lie.
Their set was the following:
Queen of the Reich
Anarchy X
Revolution Calling
Operation Mindcrime
Speak
Spreading the Disease
Take Hold of the Flame
Breaking the Silence
I Don't Believe in Love
Eyes of a Stranger
Anarchy X Reprise
They were great, I'd sem em again in a sec. Def lep was ok, They
were too loud, and Steve Clark's "guitar solo(?)" gave me a headache.
They were fun to watch, but Joe's voice was kinda shot.
Biased? not really...
Buck
|
64.78 | | ASAHI::COOPER | I am not a number, I am a free man | Thu Sep 29 1988 12:53 | 5 |
64.79 | hey joe, don't eat that fiberglass.....! | EUCLID::OWEN | Lost on the silent planet | Thu Sep 29 1988 13:08 | 5 |
| re -.2
Yea, Joe's voice was a bit cooked. But they put on a hell of a
show considering they've been touring for almost a year and a half.
Steve O
|
64.80 | | 56860::GALLANT | The Wild Heart | Mon Oct 03 1988 11:48 | 11 |
|
I went and thought the entire show was excellent!
I don't know many of Queensryche's songs, but they still
got me rockin' which means something in my book!!
We had seats that were pretty high, but the view was
perfect. Amazing laser show!
Tig~~
|
64.81 | OK, they're not TOTAL garbage ... 8^) | ANT::SLABOUNTY | Trouble with a capital 'T' | Mon Oct 03 1988 12:30 | 11 |
|
I finally have something nice to say about Def Leppard's
new stuff ...
there's a girl in the front row during the '... Sugar ...'
video that's GORGEOUS ... she's wearing a black shirt or
something like that. Appears towards the beginning of the
video.
GTI
|
64.82 | | HAZEL::STARR | You ain't nothin' but fine, fine, fine! | Mon Oct 03 1988 13:15 | 11 |
| > there's a girl in the front row during the '... Sugar ...'
> video that's GORGEOUS ... she's wearing a black shirt or
> something like that.
Shawn, I think you and I have the same taste. Are you talking about the
girl with dark hair, sort of has her arms raised up above her head to
clap along? That one? She is *unbelievable*!!!
slobber...slobber.....drool.......8^P
cat
|
64.83 | She makes me big big big big | SALEM::BUTKUS | | Mon Oct 03 1988 13:19 | 7 |
|
I second the slobbering over that woman
M
B
|
64.85 | Drool Drool, Slobber, Slobber !!!! | JANUS::BHARRISON | and her legs went on forever... | Mon Oct 03 1988 15:05 | 8 |
| I must let you know that us English metal heads have good taste
as well.
I agree totally with what has been said, a fine looking wench.
A bexy sitch even.
Brynn_the_Lep_Fan_who_wishes_he_knew_her_too.
|
64.86 | ... | ANT::SLABOUNTY | Trouble with a capital 'T' | Mon Oct 03 1988 15:17 | 5 |
|
Nope, she's a brunette.
GTI
|
64.87 | better than the blonde | HAZEL::STARR | You ain't nothin' but fine, fine, fine! | Mon Oct 03 1988 15:35 | 7 |
| > Nope, she's a brunette.
Yeah, the one GTI and I are talking about is definitely a brunette. She
appears during the first bridge of the song - she's singing along and
sort of closes her eyes as the camera hits her. Check it out - she is hot!
cat
|
64.89 | | BTO::BAGDY_M | Slam Dancin' with the Buffalo ! | Tue Oct 04 1988 10:06 | 8 |
|
All I gotta' say is, `They don't build `em like that in
Vermont !' :^) Basically, any pretty women in VT have to
be imports from other states or tourists. :^)
METALord"
Just kiddin' fellow VT'ers. :^)
|
64.90 | shed some light | CVETTE::GONZALES | Randy Burridge...ooh la la! | Tue Oct 04 1988 10:46 | 14 |
|
The girl you are talking about is a brunette and they put the camera
on her at the time when Def is singing "......shake it up..."
She has her arms above her head and is moving them to the words
of the song.
Tracy
P.S. I just thought I'd help you out in clarifying who you were
talking about. Don't think I'm on the 'iffy' side but I would say
she is rather nice looking.
|
64.91 | DEF LEPPARD DAY | CECV03::OPNOTES | | Mon Nov 14 1988 15:05 | 10 |
|
Did anyone catch the MTV special on Sunday? (All day long!!!!!!!!!)
Whatcha think?
I thought it was very good, they covered just about everything anyone
would want to know.
DAWN
|
64.92 | ex | APOMFG::MAZOLA | | Fri Jan 06 1989 13:46 | 19 |
| This is to note 64.11 - VLSBOS::COSTA!
I'LL SECOND THE MOTION! It's just phenomenal! (sp?). I felt
so bad for him when that happend. I wonderd what was to become
of him. AND the band!
Put yourself in his shoes. What would you have done? I honestly
don't know, I don't think I would have had the strength he had.
The will, and strength, and determination of him is just incredible!
I envy Rick Allen, I really do.
Here's to you, Dave!!
ROCK, ROCK- `TILL YOU DROP!!
Sandy M.
|
64.93 | | NCVAX1::SCOTT | Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster | Sat Jan 14 1989 22:33 | 17 |
64.94 | | JANUS::BHARRISON | Hi out there... Whatever you are.. | Mon Jan 16 1989 08:27 | 7 |
|
I too have read Animal Instinct, a class book.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get hold of copies of these
songs, Any idea where I can get them from ?
Brynn.
|
64.95 | Where they are. | NCVAX1::SCOTT | Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster | Mon Jan 16 1989 13:15 | 5 |
64.96 | live video | HAZEL::STARR | Like a fool, fell in love with you... | Mon Jan 16 1989 13:26 | 5 |
| I heard an interview with DL over the weekend, and they said their
next project is a live video from this tour, which they hope to
get out sometime this winter. No exact date was mentioned.....
cat
|
64.97 | | JANUS::BHARRISON | Hi out there... Whatever you are.. | Tue Jan 17 1989 07:44 | 7 |
64.98 | New Video | MUSKIE::SCOTT | Don't Shoot..Shoot.....Shotgun | Tue Feb 07 1989 01:38 | 12 |
64.99 | | JANUS::BHARRISON | Partly Animal .... | Tue Feb 07 1989 08:29 | 22 |
|
The British version has been out for a couple of weeks now. The
video was the band in a darkened studio, surrounded by boxes and
dozens of monitors. The monitors displaying key words throughout
the song, and also pieces of VT to fit in with the lyrics. Bit's
include, the sweet, T-Rex, Queen, Elton John (Rocket Man ?) David
Bowie.
On the B side to the single, they certainly did something new and
original. This is the story :
Apparently one of their roadies was a *BIG* Tom Jones fan, and went
around all the time, singing his songs, particularly Please Release
Me. So they surrupticiously got him in front of a mike, and let
him sing it. They (unbeknown to him) recorded it, added some backing
music and placed it on the B side of their Rocket single.
This is what happened in the UK, it will be interesting to find
out what you've got in the states.
Brynn.
|
64.100 | Rocket | MUSKIE::SCOTT | Don't Shoot..Shoot.....Shotgun | Tue Feb 07 1989 22:40 | 7 |
| In the states "Release Me" was put on the "B" side to Armegedon
It" and I hear that there is suppesed to a live version of "Women"
on the flip side of "Rocket" but I havrn't seen it in the stores
yet.
Rock Brigader
|
64.101 | | BSS::BLAZEK | Dancing with My Self | Mon Mar 06 1989 16:47 | 8 |
| I heard an official statement from Def Leppard recently which
said, "Don't call us heavy metal."
I really like some of their music. It's got a good beat and
you can dance to it. ;-)
Carla
|
64.103 | "No kidding?!" | BSS::BLAZEK | Dancing with My Self | Mon Mar 06 1989 17:02 | 3 |
| I had to laugh when I heard that statement. Maybe next thing
they'll enlighten us on is that they're not punk or country...
|
64.104 | | DASXPS::BOURQUE | He holds Eternity's Wings | Mon Mar 06 1989 17:27 | 3 |
|
All I know is that they have earned what they got
|
64.105 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Relief is near ... | Tue Mar 07 1989 02:18 | 8 |
| Very true - "High And Dry" to me was *almost* a metal album, it
was hot anyway ... but then along came the Top-40 monster and smashed
the metal to bits. The way I figure it, if Casey Casem ever says
your name once, then you can't be classified as metal, barely rock.
Neat album covers though ...
Def Scary
|
64.106 | reposted | HAZEL::STARR | What do ya do when you get lonely...? | Mon Jun 26 1989 13:48 | 17 |
| <<< IRDEV::SYS$SYSDEVICE:[NOTES$LIBRARY]HEAVY_METAL.NOTE;1 >>>
-< Heavy_Metal - Xxx Xxxxxx is not spoken here. (sniff!) >-
================================================================================
Note 570.16 Billy Squier 16 of 17
TPS::JREGAN "Fire, the outcome of Hypocricy" 10 lines 23-JUN-1989 11:45
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re; .14
dead Leppar or something to that affect was mentioned in here a couple
days ago. It's not that I don't like them... they're OK. HIGH & DRY
was the best LP (IMO) I just think I've heard them too much on the
radio.... kinda like the Chinese food every day analogy.... you get
sick of it after a while and you want something else. D.L. was good in
concert though.
JR
|
64.107 | reposted | HAZEL::STARR | What do ya do when you get lonely...? | Mon Jun 26 1989 13:49 | 15 |
| <<< IRDEV::SYS$SYSDEVICE:[NOTES$LIBRARY]HEAVY_METAL.NOTE;1 >>>
-< Heavy_Metal - Xxx Xxxxxx is not spoken here. (sniff!) >-
================================================================================
Note 570.17 Billy Squier 17 of 17
SHRFAC::BOUDREAU "THERE IS AN A** FOR EVERY SEAT" 7 lines 23-JUN-1989 12:20
-< WHERE IS THAT PIZZA GUY? >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
One would tend to get "burnt-out" on them with the amount
of air play that they get. This is on reson that I dont llisten
to the radio. I will agree with you "HIGH & DRY" is their **best**
album!
CB
|
64.108 | | USCTR1::KGALLANT | Sinners are much more fun... | Thu Jul 06 1989 12:58 | 9 |
|
Their long-awaited concert home video, featuring footage
shot primarily in Denver, CO and Atlanta, GA, should hit
the stores some time in July for those who are interested.
(According to Metal Edge magazine)
Tigga~~~
|
64.109 | Help! I'm bein'grilled! | GLOWS::SIMPSON | Why are you still up? | Sat Sep 09 1989 03:02 | 4 |
| Any news on when Def Leppard will be putting out a new album?
My girlfriend's gettin' impatient!
Spaceknight
|
64.110 | In the Round, In your Face. | JANUS::BHARRISON | Sworn to fun, Born to ride | Mon Sep 11 1989 13:06 | 12 |
|
I got the new Vid at the weekend.
Very good, I like it a lot, it has some excellent songs.
One thing however I was dissapointed about was the sound, even through my stereo
video, the mix sounded wrong and a little muffled.
Wel worth getting though if you're a Lep Fan.
Brynn.
|
64.111 | remix of "Pour Some Sugar On Me" | HAZEL::STARR | Always took candy from strangers... | Wed Oct 11 1989 18:16 | 8 |
| Lately I've been hearing a lot of the re-mix of "Pour Some Sugar On Me". Is
this a re-release? Or is it from somewhere else? Or what?
For those who haven't heard it, its sorta like your basic remix (rearrange the
song, repeat lots of sections, drop off the vocals, etc.). Its not so bad, as
it tends to bring the guitars to the forefront of the music.
cat
|
64.112 | bla bla blap | GIGI::GOLDBERG | wake up DEAD! | Wed Oct 11 1989 19:26 | 7 |
|
It also has been changed to stereo or not stereo but i.e. in other
words I have one speaker in my car and now I only hear half the
song whearas before one speaker was no problem.
F.
|
64.113 | PLEASE DON'T CRY GIRLS!!! | NEST::NOLAN | | Tue Oct 24 1989 19:56 | 16 |
| I AM SORRY TO SAY TO ALL OF YOU JOE ELLIOTT (FEMALE) FANS...
HE GOT MARRIED ON FRIDAY THE 20TH OF OCT. IN SHEFFIELD ENGLAND (HIS
HOME TOWN) TO HIS LONGTIME GIRLFRIEND (3 OR 4 YEARS) CARLA.I WASN'T
THRILLED BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT IN THAT BUSINESS IT MUST BE REALLY
HARD TO FIND AN HONEST PERSON YOU CAN TRUST.
MY BEST TO JOE AND HIS (SNIFF) WIFE.
DAWN
|
64.114 | | PNO::HEISER | here come the big guitars! | Tue Oct 24 1989 20:19 | 7 |
| Another tape I've been listening to is "Hysteria". I really like this
tape and Def Leppard's guitar sounds. They're not guitar monsters but
I like their "sound".
Sound is courtesy of Jackson guitars and Randall amps.
Mike
|
64.115 | | ASAHI::SCARY | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Wed Oct 25 1989 02:32 | 7 |
| I know the Def gang takes a lot of abuse (in here anyway) but
"Hysteria" on CD through a nice system has a BIG sound. These guys
put some thought into the mix of these songs ... gotta give 'em
credit for at least that much.
Scary
|
64.116 | slight nit..the endorsements came later... | MARKER::BUCKLEY | I pray the lord, your soul to keep | Wed Oct 25 1989 12:50 | 4 |
| FYI...
WHen Hysteria was recorded, the Def dudes were using Marshall 100wt
tops and Gibson/Ibanez guitars!!
|
64.117 | | USCTR1::EDEGAGNE | Mr. Ed the Talking Bassist | Wed Oct 25 1989 14:56 | 5 |
|
Thats exactly what they were using, but don't forget, most of that
album is sampled through midi equipment and not actually played.
Mr. Ed
|
64.118 | | PNO::HEISER | Suns set over the Lakers, easily | Wed Oct 25 1989 15:07 | 6 |
| That tape is one of the better all-around recordings that I've heard in
a while! The CD must be killer!
I have a $3,000+ hi-fi system and thought the tape was superb.
Mike
|
64.119 | | CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ | Lakers douse the Suns in '90 | Wed Oct 25 1989 16:19 | 6 |
| Pretty funny p-name Mike.
I like the sound on Hysteria, but I think Pyromania sounds just as
good, if not better. (The CD at least).
the devil dog
|
64.120 | | PNO::HEISER | Celtics, Suns over Lakers, easily | Wed Oct 25 1989 19:32 | 1 |
| right back at you devil dog
|
64.121 | ONE ARMED BAND | CGVAX2::GILBERT | | Mon Nov 13 1989 17:23 | 4 |
| DEF LEPPARD IS ONE OF THE WORST BANDS AROUND!!
JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THIER DRUMMER HE ONLY HAS ONE
ARM AND HE ROTS!!!!!
THE SINGER BITES TO
|
64.122 | the singer bites to what? | SALEM::PARKER | I NUB YOU | Mon Nov 13 1989 17:26 | 2 |
| now heres a guy with alot of class.
|
64.124 | He don't get no respect | MARKER::BUCKLEY | A Nation Free | Mon Nov 13 1989 17:32 | 3 |
| Hey, .121
Shut of the CAPS and learn to spell, will ya?
|
64.125 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Middle-age begins at 30. 8^) | Mon Nov 13 1989 17:35 | 11 |
|
Def Leppard useta be good 'til they "sold out" to the teeny-
boppers with their "Top 40" stuff.
Listen to "Pyromania" ... now there's a kick-*ss album.
And why do they "bite"? Care to expand on that? And care
to shut off the CAPS-LOCK? Thanks.
GTI
|
64.126 | | DVF::MORRISSEY | Draculette | Mon Nov 13 1989 18:07 | 6 |
|
Where did this person come from? Wherever it is, go back...
JJ
|
64.127 | "and he rots" ha ha ha ha!!!!.121 | BINKLY::MINARDI | Blessed in contempt | Mon Nov 13 1989 18:18 | 9 |
|
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Hats off to .121 for the biggest laugh of my day!!!!! I'm crying over
here!!!!!!
For some reason I thought that was incredibly funny!!!!
Don't listen to 'em dude!!
/Motorbreath...I can't breathe!!!
|
64.128 | | JETSAM::MATTHEWS | BODY GUARD POSITION HAS BEEN FILLED | Mon Nov 13 1989 18:45 | 5 |
| re. last ten!!
i fail to see the humor!
|
64.130 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Um... I'm dyin' over here... | Mon Nov 13 1989 21:45 | 6 |
|
Oh Wendy... the homor is there. I found it
quite hysterical myself!! Excellent review...
HA HA!!
|
64.131 | . . .sigh. . . | BTOVT::BAGDY_M | I'll ride the wind forever free | Mon Nov 13 1989 22:51 | 0 |
64.132 | | JETSAM::MATTHEWS | BODY GUARD POSITION HAS BEEN FILLED | Mon Nov 13 1989 23:39 | 9 |
| re:robn
takin spellin lesson from me?
(homor?):^}
|
64.133 | | CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ | Uber sternen muss er wohnen. | Tue Nov 14 1989 13:19 | 8 |
| re Drummer stinking.
I think he probably stinks less with one arm, only one armpit. ;^)
re singer bites.
I bet he does. he bites his food I'm sure.
|
64.134 | | USCTR1::EDEGAGNE | Dr. Ed...at your cervix | Tue Nov 14 1989 14:55 | 13 |
|
A drummer with one arm, two guitarist's that can't play, a singer
that can't sing, and a bass player that plays one note.
I can definetely see the humor in that! What about you Motorbreath?
I'm dyin' here! AGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGA!
By the way, is that drum sticks I see the (supossed) drummer with
all the time or are they just short arm crutches? AGAGAGAGAGA!
Mr. Ed...if everyone used midi as much as these guys, no one would
need any instruments
|
64.135 | Cruel, cruel, world | BUSY::JMINVILLE | Illegitimus Non Tatum Carborundem | Tue Nov 14 1989 15:09 | 16 |
| Meanwhile, they [Def Lepp] laugh all the way to the bank...
I think they spent more than 70 weeks on the Rolling Stone top 50
albums list.
Why does everybody think they're so bad? I'm no expert, but I
think they have a pretty decent sound, are well-produced, write
some good tunes. Is everybody raggin' on 'em 'cuz they're kinda
glam metal?? Or, are they really terrible musicians/singers/etc.??
I give the drummer a lot of credit. I have had three friends who
have lost arms/hands/etc. and I take my hats off to their efforts
to continue to draw (two of them were excellent artists) and, in
one case, play guitar.
joe.
|
64.136 | my opinion | CHEFS::DALLISON | Slow poke music | Tue Nov 14 1989 15:36 | 20 |
|
I agree with Joe, Def Leppard, whilst not really my cup ot tea,
aren't that bad.
The guitar players are both good, (anybody who says otherwise
obviously has no knowledge of such things).
The drummer has had to overcome a severe tragidy in order to continue
his carear as a drummer (he's done damn well too).
As for Joe Elliott and Rick Savage (vocals and bass respectivly),
they are both decent musicians.
It makes me sick to see all "one arm bandit" jokes. How would uou
people like it if you lost and limb and had to try and continue
your carear - especially in something as demanding as the music
business ??
Grow up children and try and earn some respect or develop some
maturity.
|
64.137 | | DVF::MORRISSEY | Draculette | Tue Nov 14 1989 15:38 | 6 |
|
Thank you for that Tony...I was trying to figure out
what to write but you summed it up fairly well for me.
JJ
|
64.138 | heee ha ha ho ho | BINKLY::MINARDI | Blessed in contempt | Tue Nov 14 1989 15:39 | 10 |
| yeah yeah yeah...
I just thought the note was funny, no comment on Rick's talent
or anything... the note was like one of those blunt grotesque
jokes, you know, like "why did the monkey fall out of the tree?
It was dead!" or "why did the little girl fall off the swings?
She had no arms!" The note had the same effect on me... it killed
me!!! "they are the worst band! Just look at the drummer, he only
has one arm, and he rots!" ha ha haha!!!
/Motorbreath...doesn't care much for the band's latest, except "Animal"
|
64.139 | | USCTR1::EDEGAGNE | Dr. Ed...at your cervix | Tue Nov 14 1989 15:54 | 15 |
|
Thanks Motorbreath,
Thats all it was was a joke. Don't like it? Tough!
I take back the cut down on the guitarists. But the bass player
is real good at holding one note, and I've never liked Mr. Elliot's
voice. The whole hysteria album is nothing but sampled suckatash,
anyone with access to such "machinery" could have done the same
thing and instead of splitting the money five ways, taken it him
or herself!
Mr. Ed...shoulda took today off instead of yesterday!
I don't wanna grow up!!
|
64.140 | | CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ | Uber sternen muss er wohnen. | Tue Nov 14 1989 16:21 | 5 |
| Tony, why don't you go take a valium? You seem soooo tense. Or hey,
even better, go get a nice hot fudge sundea from the cafeteria, or even
a jelly donut, I heard you are pretty good at eating those.
the devil dog who likes DefLep but had to put his little jokes in.
|
64.142 | using technology is a talent | HAZEL::STARR | We're beating plowshares into swords... | Tue Nov 14 1989 16:28 | 8 |
| Mr. Ed,
Keep in mind that, IMO, utilizing those machines to create a good sound and a
good song is just as much a talent as playing the guitar or singing well. Not
everyone can use technology to produce good music, and I would never berate a
band for that fact alone.
alan
|
64.143 | | USCTR1::EDEGAGNE | Dr. Ed...at your cervix | Tue Nov 14 1989 16:46 | 5 |
|
I would! AGAGAGA!
Mr. Ed...no machines!
|
64.145 | I've said it before, I'll say it again... | ASAHI::COOPER | Rack ROCKET! | Tue Nov 14 1989 17:29 | 6 |
| While I have a lot of respect for the drummer who made a come-back,
I have even more respect for the others in the band who waited 3
years for him to learn his new gadget...You know if was long and
tuff.
jc (who used to play in a band with a bassist with 3 fingers...)
|
64.147 | Not to mention the pain... | ASAHI::COOPER | Rack ROCKET! | Tue Nov 14 1989 17:39 | 4 |
| My point exactly Pete...And while he was learning, those other boize
musta been chomping at the bit big time !
jc
|
64.149 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Raging Slab | Mon Dec 11 1989 17:31 | 13 |
|
I just listened to "On Through the Night" ... these guys
knew how to play back in 1980.
What happened? They wimped out completely for "Hysteria".
The guitars are toned down (well, not toned down ... but
it definitely doesn't stand out as "heavy").
Oh well ... I think I'll dig up "High 'n' Dry" so I can
reminisce about the "real" Def Leppard.
GTI
|
64.150 | | WLDWST::BKOCHER | | Wed Dec 13 1989 07:58 | 4 |
| Because Pete Willis was playing lead and Phil Collen is now playing
lead. IMO Pete is a better player that Phil.
Bill K.
|
64.151 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Raging Slab | Wed Dec 13 1989 13:15 | 9 |
|
I dug out "High 'n' Dry" last night, and it's good. I think
I still like "Pyromania" better though.
I'll hafta give it a couple more listens, but what I do know
is that "Let It Go" is one of my favorite DL songs.
GTI
|
64.153 | ex | CHIPS::PERTAG | | Wed Dec 13 1989 14:58 | 2 |
|
High and Dry is definately their best!
|
64.155 | Best Lep! | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Every three meters | Wed Dec 13 1989 15:26 | 7 |
| I agree with you too! "High and Dry" is definately their best in my
book! They really rocked back then. I hope they return to that with
their next album rather then staying with the "Hysteria" mainstream
material so much. If I hear another song like "Rock It" from them I
may have to puke or something.
gh
|
64.156 | | ASAHI::SCARY | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Thu Dec 14 1989 03:39 | 10 |
| I dunno - I think once a band hits it big on radio, they're stuck
in that mode. What responsible record company would allow a
breadwinner to "change their style" when they're sell sh*tloads
of albums ? Hopefully, they'll at least have a few tunes similar
to "Bringing On The Heartbreak", or "Let It Roll" to satisfy the
rockers along with the techno-sap that oozed from "Hysteria".
Scary
|
64.157 | | BUFFER::GOLDSMITH | Like a kiss from the lips of Ra | Thu Dec 14 1989 14:30 | 7 |
| I think I heard a new song from them on the radio last night. Their
new one must be close to out now.
It was another ballad-type song. It sounded less "techno-sappy" than
Hysteria, but still pretty sappy.
S
|
64.159 | Yeah, cool guitar hook | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Every three meters | Thu Dec 14 1989 17:06 | 6 |
| re: .156
"Let it Roll"? You mean "Let it Go"! That's a great song, one of my
fav off High & Dry.
Greg
|
64.160 | Help! | GLOWS::SIMPSON | Graceless Intrusion | Mon Jan 29 1990 22:30 | 5 |
|
What'd you say, babe? ...WHAP! ...Oh, sorry, yes dear, right away...
Any news on an upcoming album release date yet? My life's in danger!
Spaceknight
|
64.161 | New album out? | DASXPS::GRENIER | As far as the eye can see | Sat May 12 1990 01:44 | 6 |
| Has anybody heard their new song? It's called Tear it Down, and
I keep hearing it on WAAF. Not bad. I like it better than the
stuff they put out on Hysteria.
Steve
|
64.162 | | CSC32::H_SO | Pizza dude's got 30 seconds! | Sat May 12 1990 04:12 | 6 |
|
Is it more like Pyromania or High and Dry? I did/do like Hysteria but
like the raw energy of their previous album. I like most of their
stuff, but "Wasted" is best song they ever done, IMO.
J-Dot
|
64.163 | | USCTR1::KGALLANT | Peacock Rm,NH...DEZYNE...5/17-19 | Sat May 12 1990 17:16 | 6 |
|
I'm not sure that there was a specific album it came from,
but I know it was the B side to Women. It's been re-released.
Tigga~~~ who thought it was pretty cool
|
64.164 | | DASXPS::GRENIER | As far as the eye can see | Sat May 12 1990 20:12 | 16 |
| RE: J-Dot
It's not as heavy as High 'n' Dry, but it sounds more raw than their
newer stuff. Kinda lies between High n Dry, and Pyromania. I don't
know if it was recorded at the same time as the Hysteria stuff,
but it is VERY different (mostly in production) than the material
on Hysteria. IMHO of course.
Steve
PS. No way! The last song from On thru the Night (Overture, I
believe) is their best!! IMHO again. 8^)
|
64.165 | | CSC32::H_SO | Pizza dude's got 30 seconds! | Sat May 12 1990 21:43 | 13 |
|
I thought Hysteria's production was almost too slick for my taste.
I still liked it, though. One song that I've heard around juke boxes
is "I Wanna Be Your Hero" and does anyone know if this was a previous
release? I really like this song. IMO it sounds like an inbetween
of stuff on Hysteria and High and Dry.
RE: Overture. No way, dude! This is a good song, but if you read
.162 again, I was referencing "Wasted" to their "raw" sound. Sorry
if that wasn't too clear. When I said "raw", I was referrencing to
their level of energy. Hysteria sounds almost too processed.
J-Dot
|
64.166 | | DASXPS::GRENIER | As far as the eye can see | Sat May 12 1990 22:12 | 11 |
| RE -1
I've never heard that song! Anybody know if it's another B-side
release?
You're right about the raw energy of Wasted, that song kicks!!
I HAD a version of Rocks Off called 'Get Your Rocks Off' that a
friend of mine got in Britain, but I can't find it!!
Steve
|
64.167 | more On Thru the Night!!! | CSC32::H_SO | Pizza dude's got 30 seconds! | Sat May 12 1990 22:59 | 19 |
|
RE: "Hero"
I don't think it's off of "First Strike" cause it didn't sound
anything like stuff off of "On Thru The Night". Joe's singing was
a lot like Pyro or Hysteria. If I'm not mistaken, in the juke box,
it was the B side to "Animal".
"Hero" starts out slow with just accoutic guitar with a lot of
breathing room, Joe sings for a while and when the band kicks in, the
song is rather upbeat. Pretty good, tho. I'll go and check the
bar I heard this in(twist my arm, would ya? That's far enough! ;^> )
and let you know.
Yeah, "Rocks Off" is a killer song! Gawd! I used to play this album
to death! I remember walking to bus stop with my head phone on and
listening to "Hello America".
J-Dot
|
64.168 | | DASXPS::GRENIER | As far as the eye can see | Sat May 12 1990 23:19 | 2 |
| I remember playing Rock Brigade in my very first band! 8^)
|
64.169 | | CSC32::H_SO | Pizza dude's got 30 seconds! | Sat May 12 1990 23:42 | 4 |
|
I'd like our band to do "Wasted"! ;^>
J-Dot
|
64.170 | | DASXPS::GRENIER | As far as the eye can see | Sat May 12 1990 23:49 | 2 |
| Do you mean 'do' or 'get'? ;^)
|
64.171 | | CSC32::H_SO | Pizza dude's got 30 seconds! | Sat May 12 1990 23:53 | 8 |
|
RE: "do or get"
Yes! ;^>
J-Dot
|
64.172 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Audiophiles do it 'til it hertz! | Mon May 14 1990 16:50 | 5 |
|
"Rock Brigade" is one of my favorite Def Leppard songs.
GTI
|
64.175 | Rumourmonger reappearance! | GLOWS::SIMPSON | Right buddy, you're busted! Get out the guitar! | Wed Jun 13 1990 00:32 | 8 |
|
Masochist that I am, yet more bad news I shall now deliver:
Def Leppard's new album is not supposed to be out until
Christmas, according to Rolling Stone magazine.
No info on the title yet...I'll update as I get news.
Spaceknight
|
64.176 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Turn around&walk the razors edge... | Wed Jun 13 1990 01:14 | 8 |
|
A blessing to some...
A NIGHTMARE TO OTHERS!!!
- Merlin -
|
64.177 | Nit | GLOWS::SIMPSON | Right buddy, you're busted! Get out the guitar! | Wed Jun 13 1990 03:45 | 6 |
|
Yo Rob, it's "A dream to some...A NIGHTMARE TO OTHERS!"
Methinks...:-)
Spaceknight
|
64.178 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Naaa... We can't let Steve drive! | Wed Jun 13 1990 11:34 | 3 |
|
Thank god for that - I wasn't ready for another drowning in
pseudo-synth-'rock'.
|
64.179 | | BINKLY::MINARDI | Rebel without a pause | Wed Jun 13 1990 12:28 | 3 |
| Same wavelength today Tony (much as I dislike admitting it) ;^)
/Motorbreath...thought Hysteria was thumbs-down
|
64.180 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Naaa... We can't let Steve drive! | Wed Jun 13 1990 13:03 | 11 |
|
Def Leppard have gone ...
d
o
w
n
h
i
l
l
|
64.181 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Turn around&walk the razors edge... | Thu Jun 14 1990 01:11 | 9 |
|
Re: Excalibur
Yep, you're right, what I wrote didn't sound
right to me, but my friend thought it was, so I
went with it anyway.
- Merlin -
|
64.182 | New Def Lep ? | BTOVT::BRONSON | | Tue Jun 19 1990 12:23 | 7 |
|
I was driving up the west side of Vermont last Thursday and WPYX
played what I thought they billed as "NEW" Def Lep music.I didn't catch
the title,but it was a good tune.Has anyone else heard something new
from them?
R.B.
|
64.183 | | BINKLY::MINARDI | Rebel without a pause | Tue Jun 19 1990 12:27 | 7 |
| re.182
no, but if it's being played on the west side of Vermont,
we've probably been hearing it for the last 6 months!! 8^)
Just kidding. YEah, I heard a new DL tune..... ehhh.
/Motorbreath
|
64.184 | Tear it down | TALLIS::QUEBEC | Beach Bum in 18 days | Tue Jun 19 1990 12:41 | 7 |
|
There is a song being heavily played on the radio called
"Tear it Down". It isn't new so to speak it is from a B side of
one of their more popular songs. I can't think of which at the
momento.
Rae
|
64.185 | VT HM-radio kinda sucks! | BTOVT::BRONSON | | Tue Jun 19 1990 12:41 | 8 |
|
re:183
Your not kidding..your 99.9% right!It takes 6 months to a year to
hear some HM tunes up here.All the great stations surround VT.Thank
the lord of HM that I get out once in a while.
R.B.
|
64.186 | | USCTR1::KGALLANT | I'm in a mood... | Tue Jun 19 1990 12:46 | 6 |
|
RE: Rae
I believe it's the B side to "Women" (?)
tigga~~~
|
64.187 | I was hoping it was new stuff.. | BTOVT::BRONSON | | Tue Jun 19 1990 17:34 | 3 |
|
So.....which album did the song come from?
R.B.
|
64.188 | No album..I don't think | TALLIS::QUEBEC | Beach Bum in 18 days | Tue Jun 19 1990 17:39 | 8 |
|
It isn't on a album. It is just on the B side of a 45 I believe.
I know a girl who is wicked into Def Leppard. I will ask her next
time I see her.
Rae
|
64.189 | | ICS::BUCKLEY | Damn, [Expletive] this [Expletive]! | Tue Jun 19 1990 17:52 | 4 |
| Rae is right...it was a leftover from the Hysteria sessions,
which came out as the B side to the Women single!
And dat is only where you can find it!
|
64.190 | | PEKING::WRANG | EVERYTHING'S SO LA-LA-LA-LA-LOVELY | Thu Nov 01 1990 15:59 | 6 |
|
Def Leppard are currently in Dublin working on their follow up album to
Hysteria with producer Mutt Lange. It should be released early next
year.
Flip
|
64.191 | | JJLIET::JUDY | The sinners are much more fun | Tue Jan 08 1991 16:19 | 7 |
|
Heard on the radio just now (106.3 out of Nashua) that
Def Leppard's guitarist, Steve Clark was found dead in
London. Didn't hear any other details.
JJ
|
64.192 | | ICS::BUCKLEY | Sheena is a punk rocker! | Tue Jan 08 1991 16:32 | 3 |
| -1
I'll take his place!
|
64.193 | terrible news | XCUSME::MATTHEWS | | Tue Jan 08 1991 16:36 | 7 |
| Yea I heard the same thing but on 101.
before his drummer got messed up, now this..
I wonder if the band will ever pull back again!
wendy o'
|
64.194 | | FREEBE::REAUME | Passing Lane-TR @ Redline | Tue Jan 08 1991 18:59 | 9 |
| That's bad news. It's terrible when multiple tragedies occur in
the same band. Reminds me of the old Allman Brothers deaths. As
far as the band goes, I'm sure they'll pull through. There are way
too many talented axemen out there that would love a crack at
fame and fortune. So Buck - Do you have a contact? That'll give
you a reason to get that extra cabinet.
-B()()M-
|
64.195 | another rainy day... | SCOBIE::BHASTY | | Tue Jan 08 1991 19:50 | 15 |
| Hey major flash dudes... the radio station just announced that Steve
Clark, the lon blond hair guitarist, for Def Leppard was just found
either today or yesterday dead in his London apartment. They didn't say
the cause of death but are suppose to have more details later today...
I have to tell ya the band just has no luck at all, first the thing
with the drummer Rick Allen, and now this... I really feel for the rest
of the dudes. Theyv'e come so far just to be shot down again...
Here's to ya Steve... I heard God rocks too..
The "B."
|
64.196 | wow deja vu! | PNO::HEISER | hell is for wimps | Tue Jan 08 1991 19:54 | 1 |
|
|
64.197 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Why don't you bend for gold? | Tue Jan 08 1991 20:13 | 6 |
|
Luck has nothing to do with flipping over a Corvette ...
alcohol does.
GTI
|
64.198 | | SNIPER::GALLANT | Pray for us on the Wild Side... | Tue Jan 08 1991 20:20 | 11 |
|
From the small bits and pieces I've heard thus far, he was
found dead in his apartment. The guy was only 30 years old
and it appears he died in his sleep.... from what? That's
what they (ahem) don't know yet...
Ironic that this happened around the same time Rick Allen
lost his arm (that was on New Year's Eve '84, I believe)
tigga~~~~
|
64.199 | | DPE::STARR | SRV......I can't believe you're gone.... | Tue Jan 08 1991 20:21 | 6 |
| The autopsy report is due tomorrow, but first reports indicate that he died
of a heart attack in his sleep....
8^(
alan
|
64.200 | | PNO::HEISER | hell is for wimps | Tue Jan 08 1991 21:13 | 4 |
| To die of a heart attack at 30 is really strange! I'd bet luck had
nothing to do with this either.
Mike
|
64.201 | | KIRKTN::IGOLDIE | Shakin' with the pizza babe | Tue Jan 08 1991 21:29 | 10 |
| Anybody know if it was drug related?
STAYNZ
|
64.202 | Crass, I know... | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Hail, ToneBrother | Tue Jan 08 1991 21:59 | 3 |
| He was probably dreaming he was Jimi Hendrix...
gh
|
64.203 | RIP | RAVEN1::B_ADAMS | Comin'on strong in'91 | Tue Jan 08 1991 23:55 | 6 |
64.204 | major bummer - rip | XCUSME::SCHROEDER | Last chance | Wed Jan 09 1991 01:14 | 1 |
| Latest reports have it as alcohol poisoning.
|
64.205 | | FTCVAX::SMITHS | | Wed Jan 09 1991 06:56 | 6 |
| On the BBC here in the UK this morning it reported that he was found on
the floor of his flat in Chelsea(London) by his girlfriend.The police
commented that there were no suspicious circumstances.
steve
|
64.206 | Just call me `Grumpy' today. :^) | BTOVT::BAGDY_M | Dense Fog = Air Guitar | Wed Jan 09 1991 09:09 | 14 |
64.207 | I felt like I was going to die from the hangover once! | JUPITR::BJUBINVILLE | | Wed Jan 09 1991 09:22 | 8 |
| Just heard the news update on Steve. He died of an alcohol
overdose. His manager stated to reporters that Steve had a long
line of history with alcohol abuse. I had to call WAAF to tell
them that Steve founded Def Leppard NOT Led Zepplin. The had just
finished up on their latest album and he was talking a vacation
with his girlfriend.
BOZ
|
64.208 | | JUPITR::BJUBINVILLE | | Wed Jan 09 1991 09:23 | 4 |
| He was taking a vacation not TALKING one.......
|
64.209 | Rock in Peace | WMOIS::MAZURKA | I'm not shaking my head at you | Wed Jan 09 1991 09:44 | 3 |
| I heard that the new album was only about half done..
Crazy_Al
|
64.210 | Sadly Missed | IOSG::WILCOCKA | Killer Snowman from Hell | Wed Jan 09 1991 10:03 | 1 |
| Gone the way of so many....
|
64.211 | The next phase of Def Lep's survival! | BTOVT::BRONSON | Mr. Rogers is a metal head! | Wed Jan 09 1991 11:39 | 9 |
|
It's too bad....Last night our local Rock station did a power play
of Def Lep songs so we could send ole Steve off. As stated in a
previous reply there are MANY great axemen out there that can step in
and takeover, but the key thing to remember is that their music as it
was today had his b,s,t all over the music. The music will change and
the band will change...for the better? Only time will tell.
R.B.
|
64.212 | whatever the cause it's sad | USCTR2::ZAPPIA | Feel the same | Wed Jan 09 1991 11:43 | 20 |
|
I also heard something about his drinking that kept him out of
his own bar?
What ever the cause it is sad.
It's also surprising the high number of deaths by people in there
early 30's from sudden heart attacks to people considered to be in
"good shape". I think this is unrelated to him from what I've
heard but I always think about this because someone who I grew
up with but had lost contact over the years recently passed away
and the first thing most people asked me was "gee, was he on
drugs?" and I really hate that some people assume that to be
the reason. 'nough rambling.
Funeral preparations are being planned in his (?) howntown of
Sheffield.
- Jim
|
64.213 | | ICS::BUCKLEY | Sheena is a punk rocker! | Wed Jan 09 1991 12:04 | 7 |
| Well, if you all remember, Def Lep replaced guitarist Pete Willis for
his alsohol abuse problems...was he missed? Not really. Although
Clark was a founding member, his contributions to DL became less and
less over the years. Why, when I saw them in conert last year, you
couldn't even hear his guitar playing...it was all Phil Collen!!
JMHO...
|
64.214 | writting on the wall? | ICS::BUCKLEY | Sheena is a punk rocker! | Wed Jan 09 1991 12:04 | 2 |
| PS -- Did anyone notioce Clark in recent pictures?!? He was really
looking like sh*t for a while there!!!
|
64.215 | Why do we seem to lose so many this way? | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Hail, ToneBrother | Wed Jan 09 1991 16:05 | 10 |
| Despite my previous crass joke, I really think this sucks. It's
especially bad that he did this to himself as well.
While I wasn't that thrilled with Hysteria, I used to love the old Def
Leppard stuff. The songbook for High & Dry and Pyromania was about the
first actual songbook of popular music that I bought.
I woke up this morning with "Mirror, Mirror" running through my head.
gh
|
64.216 | Wild guess here ... | BTOVT::BRONSON | Mr. Rogers is a metal head! | Wed Jan 09 1991 16:11 | 5 |
|
The pressures of running in the fast lane ? When you are in the
public's eye you sometimes can not handle it!
R.B.
|
64.217 | nothing surprises me anymore | PNO::HEISER | hell is for wimps | Wed Jan 09 1991 16:34 | 4 |
| this is all too common in the music business (including music lovers
and fans). Some people just can't learn from the examples of others.
Mike
|
64.218 | official release, nothing new | PNO::HEISER | cost for the ride is your mind | Wed Jan 09 1991 19:26 | 26 |
| Article 375 of clari.news.music:
From: clarinews@clarinet.com
Newsgroups: clari.news.music,clari.news.europe
Subject: Def Leppard guitarist dies
Date: 8 Jan 91 21:00:49 GMT
Priority: regular
LONDON (UPI) -- Steve Clark, guitarist for the heavy metal rock group
Def Leppard, was found dead in his London apartment Tuesday, Scotland
Yard said.
A spokesman for the British police agency said cause of Clark's death
was being investigated but added there were no suspicious circumstances.
Clark's body was discovered about 9 a.m. lying on the floor of the
living room of his apartment in the Chelsea district of London, the
Scotland Yard spokesman said. A post mortem was scheduled for Wednesday,
he said.
In New York City, Cliff Burnstein, one of Clark's managers, said he
had just gotten word of the 30-year-old musician's death.
``The cause of his death is still unknown,'' Burnstein said.
He said the group had been recording in Dublin, Ireland, and was
taking a break in London, Burnstein said.
Clark was one of the founding members of the band which was formed in
1978.
|
64.219 | they're not breaking up | DPE::STARR | SRV......I can't believe you're gone.... | Wed Jan 09 1991 19:44 | 4 |
| The obituary in the Boston Globe this morning had Joe Elliot commenting
that the band *will* go on.....
alan
|
64.220 | Be careful what you wish for ... | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Roll'em-I'll just feel something | Thu Jan 10 1991 04:47 | 5 |
| Kinda makes you wonder if "making it big" is for everyone. It loses a
lot of the fun and turns more into a business (I guess, 8^), and we
all know, sometimes work s*cks. 8^)
Scary (tm)
|
64.221 | | BTOVT::BAGDY_M | Dense Fog = Air Guitar | Thu Jan 10 1991 10:00 | 7 |
64.222 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Roll'em-I'll just feel something | Thu Jan 10 1991 10:16 | 4 |
| IMHO that's true with every facet of life !
Scary (who says life is too short to stand in checkout lines with ugly
cashiers .... 8^)
|
64.223 | | CSC32::H_SO | Redline? What redline? | Sat Jan 12 1991 17:30 | 8 |
|
RIP Steve. I learned plenty from "Pyromania/High N Dry" song book...
Kinda ironic, tho. Pete Willis gets fired for his alcohol problems and
Steve dies from it AFTER making it to the big times... I wonder who's
better off...
J.
|
64.224 | | ENOVAX::DIBIASI | CYBERNETIC HEARTBEAT | Mon Jan 14 1991 22:56 | 9 |
|
RE-1
...Anybody who lives to tell the tale.
DEEBS
|
64.225 | | DUCK::PERKINSP | Modern day braves w/1 stronghold | Tue Feb 19 1991 15:13 | 10 |
|
Def Leppard have been firmly denying the strong rumours that
Steve Clark's replacement will be John Sykes.
The inquest into SC's death has been postponed until Feb 27th.
They *are* definitely looking for a replacement and will be
resuming their career later in the year.
Flip
|
64.226 | Sykes roolz | CAVLRY::BUCK | Marshall Stack Puke ! | Tue Feb 19 1991 15:32 | 1 |
| John Sykes? That would be AWESOME!
|
64.227 | Don't do it John | TRAM::BBOLDT | | Tue Feb 19 1991 16:15 | 1 |
| Why would John Sykes want to sell out and join a wimpy band like that?
|
64.228 | | VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK | Pretties for you! | Tue Feb 19 1991 16:16 | 3 |
|
Sell out? Heck, he was already in Whitesnake [the band that holds
the world's record on the number of love songs written].
|
64.229 | | TRAM::BBOLDT | | Tue Feb 19 1991 16:23 | 3 |
| What I was saying was he has already made a name for himself and he
doesn't need to join a band like Whitesnake or Def Leppard now. I felt
the same way about Steve Vai joining Whitesnake.
|
64.230 | | VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK | Pretties for you! | Tue Feb 19 1991 16:27 | 2 |
|
I see said the blind man!
|
64.231 | blind person driving | USOPS::ZAPPIA | Screaming in Digital | Tue Feb 19 1991 18:02 | 7 |
| Picture this:
A commercial van that deals in Venetian Blinds with the words
'blind man driving'. I cracked up when I saw this but it doesn't
take much.
- Jim
|
64.232 | my jeep is stuck have an Iraqi tank handy?? | SCOBIE::BHASTY | | Wed Feb 27 1991 19:19 | 8 |
| I really don't think J.Sykes is going to join Def Leppard, I mean heput
out Blue Murder's album and from what I have heard they are presently
in the studio doing the follow-up. Nothing against D.L. but I think it
would be a step down for Sykes...
The"B."
|
64.233 | | DUCK::PERKINSP | Wiggle it just a li'l bit | Thu Feb 28 1991 06:02 | 4 |
|
He's not going to join the DL...they've denied the rumours.
Flip
|
64.234 | | DUCK::PERKINSP | Positive Mental Octopus | Wed Mar 06 1991 11:44 | 11 |
|
The inquest has confirmed that Steve Clark died of drinking excessive
amounts of alcohol coupled with drugs. The death was recorded as
"respiratory failure due to a compression of the brain stem, resulting
from excessive quantities of alcohol mixed with anti depressants and
painkillers".
His blood contained 250mg of alcohol...over three times the legal limit
for driving....and also traces of morphine, valium and painkillers.
Flip
|
64.235 | 8^) | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Got into a war with reality ... | Wed Mar 06 1991 12:46 | 7 |
|
I just hope they didn't find a Judas Priest tape in the car,
because if they did they'll probably ignore all the medical
findings and blame it on the music.
GTI
|
64.236 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Stealth :== gray car in fog | Thu Mar 14 1991 16:02 | 11 |
|
Has anyone heard the remix of "Rock of Ages"? Yuck.
They slowed it down, and I'm pretty sure they took out
some backing vocals and guitar fills.
What was wrong with the original that they had to do it
over again? They certainly didn't improve it any.
GTI
|
64.237 | Live? | WMOIS::MAZURKA | Son of the Dawn | Thu Mar 14 1991 19:30 | 5 |
| Is that the one where they slip in a few Lines for"Gene Genie","All
the young Dudes"and other older rock tunes?
If so-I think it's so-so.
Crazy_IMHFO_AL
|
64.238 | Vic Reeves's Big Night Out | KIRKTN::IGOLDIE | The Incendiary Preacher | Thu Mar 14 1991 19:56 | 6 |
| why the hell did they do that???they have plenty of slow stuff from
previous albums and off Hysteria.They should have let it lie....!
Staynz
|
64.239 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Stealth :== gray car in fog | Thu Mar 14 1991 20:11 | 11 |
|
RE: .237
I don't think it's live ... as a matter of fact, I'm al-
most positive it's a studio cut. I didn't hear any of
the "snipets" you mentioned, but I also didn't listen to
the whole song. I was getting ill, and had to change the
station.
GTI
|
64.240 | | GSRC::COOPER | Major MIDI Rack Puke (tm) | Thu Mar 14 1991 21:11 | 5 |
| Remember a song called "Wasted" ?
Love that tune.
jc
|
64.241 | old Leppard roolz | KIRKTN::IGOLDIE | The Incendiary Preacher | Thu Mar 14 1991 21:20 | 6 |
| how about the last song from "high and dry"I thinkits called no,no,no
it rips somethin' fierce
Staynz
|
64.242 | | ENOVAX::DIBIASI | CYBERNETIC HEARTBEAT | Fri Mar 15 1991 01:43 | 7 |
|
Rock Brigade was cool.
DEEBS
|
64.243 | Which One? | CYNO::FERRIS | Defiance Incarnate | Fri Mar 15 1991 11:59 | 7 |
|
I'm not a real big fan so fill me in. I was watching a Video of the
last DL tour on TV last night. There are 2 guitarists, one with long
blonde hair and the other with shorter blonde hair. Which was the one
that recently died? Just curious.
mike
|
64.244 | | DUCK::PERKINSP | Positive Mental Octopus | Fri Mar 15 1991 12:02 | 4 |
|
Theone with the long blonde hair is the guy tht died recently.
Flip
|
64.246 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Stealth :== gray car in fog | Fri Mar 15 1991 15:02 | 5 |
|
"Rock Brigade" is one of my favorites, as is "Let It Go".
GTI
|
64.247 | <> | CYNO::FERRIS | Defiance Incarnate | Fri Mar 15 1991 16:37 | 4 |
|
Thanks Flip, thats what I thought but wasn't sure.
mike
|
64.249 | Interesting end of an album. | RAVEN1::KROBINSON | I'm just a media trained parasite. | Mon Mar 18 1991 06:58 | 7 |
| re. To the song No No No off High and Dry. The first time I heard that
song it tripped me out. Like you said it is at the end of the album and
I had an auto. table. So when it got to the end of the song and kept
saying No No No I thought the needle got stuck until the friend who
brought it over told what was going on.
The KER
|
64.250 | | VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK | DEC sells but who's buying? | Mon Mar 18 1991 11:25 | 6 |
|
re: .248
I covered that song in a couple bands.
High and Dry is my favorite.
|
64.251 | | DUCK::PERKINSP | Positive Mental Octopus | Wed Apr 10 1991 11:55 | 5 |
|
Despite the denial from Def Leppard's management, rumours persist that
John Sykes has joined the band.
Flip
|
64.252 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | young enough not to choose it | Wed Apr 10 1991 12:15 | 5 |
| Great for Def Leppard....
Real dumb for John Sykes (do you know what that means Tankeneese)
Bonzo
|
64.253 | | JUPITR::BJUBINVILLE | AAA AA, we drive you to drink | Mon May 27 1991 22:51 | 13 |
| congrats to the boys on having the 5 videos in the top 300
all-time greatest videos and having their hit "Pour Some Sugar
On Me" at
>>>>>> #1 <<<<<<<<
they beat the favored 15 minute long video Thriller by Michael
Jackson which was #2.
#3 was Paridise City by G 'n R
#4 was Sledgehammer by Peter Gabrial
Boz
|
64.254 | FYI | HAVASU::HEISER | step into my groove | Mon Sep 09 1991 22:09 | 5 |
| The new album is 3/4's done and is slated for a March/April release.
Phil Collen has handled all the guitar work on it, but the band says
they will hire another guitarist for the tour.
Mike
|
64.255 | Rumors were true...Sykes joins the Leps | CAVLRY::BUCK | Carry on, cuz nothing really matters | Tue Sep 10 1991 12:23 | 3 |
| It's confirmed that John Sykes *IS* playing with them. NOt only
doing the recording (yes, it's on-going and a prven fact), but will
be doing the tour also.
|
64.256 | fwiw | HAVASU::HEISER | stay sane inside insanity | Tue Sep 10 1991 14:54 | 1 |
| No mention of that in the radio report that I got my info from.
|
64.257 | | JUPITR::BJUBINVILLE | I TOO AM THE NRA | Fri Sep 27 1991 11:42 | 8 |
| latest issue has an interview with Joe and the boys. They talked
about the tought time they had with recovering from the loss of Clark
but they thing the album should be done by Christmas. Joe pointed
out that a new guitarist will be sought for the tour but he doesn't
want to be interviewing and all that crap. He wants to grab some
with a good reputation and doesn't need audition... Sykes?????
Boz
|
64.258 | Never | CHEST::PALK | | Fri Oct 25 1991 11:46 | 10 |
| John Sykes and Def Lepard! You must be joking.
I read an interview with the Leps's in Kerrang the other week
and they laughed at the idea.
Minf You I've lost count at the number of times Kerrang have reported
that Guns & Roses are going to split.
Chris
|
64.259 | No Sykes | JANUS::FAGG | Heavy and LOUD!! | Mon Oct 28 1991 06:58 | 10 |
| The latest eedition of Metal Hammer (nov 1991) includes an official denial
from the band that John Sykes has been working with the band. The statement
goes on to say that Phil Collen has taken responsibility for both guitar
parts in completing the new album.
Apparently a decision on the replacement guitartist has yet to be made.
MH reckon that the decision is not necessary until they enter rehearsals
prior to any tour.
Keef.
|
64.260 | Adrian Smith = new guitarist? | DPE::STARR | I'll be your Tennessee lamb..... | Thu Jan 09 1992 19:31 | 4 |
| The latest USENET gossip has former Iron Miaden guitarist Adrian Smith
joining Def Leppard.
alan
|
64.261 | | KIDVAX::CESCOBAR | The EscoBarbarian | Thu Jan 09 1992 20:20 | 3 |
|
Figures... Guy can't cut it on his own and Maiden sure as hell don't
need him.... He's a pretty good guitarist though.
|
64.262 | Should be interesting...To say the least. | COMET::FRISBYA | Sweet Cheater | Thu Jan 09 1992 20:24 | 4 |
| He'll make more money.....good career move.
Frizkid
|
64.263 | | KIDVAX::CESCOBAR | The EscoBarbarian | Thu Jan 09 1992 20:40 | 9 |
|
Yeah when Def Lepard sells close to 50 million albums then talk about
money....
..actually I don't know how many DefLep have sold....that's probably
why I didn't win most informative...
;')
|
64.264 | No more records, please? | GOES11::G_HOUSE | I think I'm gonna hurl! -G. Bush | Thu Jan 09 1992 20:55 | 5 |
| > Guy can't cut it on his own and Maiden sure as hell don't need him...
Nope they don't need him, all they need are retirement at this point!
gh
|
64.265 | Retirement.....We can only hope. 8) | COMET::FRISBYA | Sweet Cheater | Thu Jan 09 1992 21:18 | 7 |
| Oh Chris......Def Leppard has sold WAY more albums than Maiden.
I just can't picture Adrian in this band....I don't know why but I
thoughtit was REAL weird. Does anyone else think this is weird?
Frizkid
|
64.269 | BTW 2-69 DOODZ!!! Two in a row!! 8) | MPGS::HOWES | Shadows form scary visions. | Thu Jan 09 1992 21:58 | 13 |
|
I can't picture what the 'new' Def Leppard will sound like.
Pyromania was great, I hope they will come out with something
good, but I know they won't..
I *HATE* that quote... It is so annoying!!!
-Seth
|
64.270 | | VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK | just an angel in disguise... | Fri Jan 10 1992 11:05 | 2 |
|
If anyone should retire, it's Def Leppard.
|
64.271 | | SALEM::SCALZO | The Sky is Crying | Fri Jan 10 1992 11:15 | 6 |
| JMO
I like the older stuff, High -n- Dry etc...Pyromania wasn't bad. but
after that, that's when I stopped buying their stuff.
Jeff
|
64.272 | | VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK | just an angel in disguise... | Fri Jan 10 1992 11:36 | 2 |
|
I really like High 'n Dry. The rest I hate!
|
64.273 | | MRSVAX::CESCOBAR | The EscoBarbarian | Fri Jan 10 1992 11:50 | 7 |
|
I liked High n Dry. Pyromania was pretty good. Hysteria was the model
for the word commercial. I hated it to the max.
|
64.274 | | MR4DEC::JWHITMAN | No more Tears | Fri Jan 10 1992 13:03 | 7 |
|
I think Maiden should have retired YEARS ago... at least when D.L.
comes around again, they'll be selling out at every place they play
at.
|
64.280 | | SOURCE::GALLANT | the fire in your eyes... | Fri Jan 10 1992 13:40 | 9 |
|
It sounds to me as though Pete's retaliating with a "Def
Leppard should retire" merely because he's the ultimate
Iron Maiden fan...
Personally?? I think they should both retire. (; (: (:
tigg~~~
|
64.281 | ;^) | GOES11::G_HOUSE | I think I'm gonna hurl! -G. Bush | Fri Jan 10 1992 13:49 | 4 |
| Def Leppard retire? Naw, they still have a few more band members to
kill or maim yet!
gh
|
64.282 | | VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK | just an angel in disguise... | Fri Jan 10 1992 13:54 | 2 |
|
Bwahahahaha!
|
64.283 | | MRSVAX::CESCOBAR | The EscoBarbarian | Fri Jan 10 1992 13:56 | 7 |
|
I'm rollin'....
hahahaha
|
64.284 | | CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELL | One way ticket on your last chance ride" | Fri Jan 10 1992 14:18 | 1 |
| I liked Hysteria.
|
64.285 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | HereComesTrouble&ItLooksLikeFun | Fri Jan 10 1992 14:22 | 7 |
|
RE: .284
Yuck!! Stuff like "Pour Some Sugar on Me" makes me sick.
GTI
|
64.286 | | VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK | just an angel in disguise... | Fri Jan 10 1992 14:24 | 2 |
|
It makes me want to do violent things to my dog with a fork.
|
64.287 | too funny!! | POWDML::GOLDBERG | my baby does the hanky panky | Fri Jan 10 1992 14:39 | 3 |
|
ACK! PETE I AM ROOOOLIN!
|
64.288 | | VLNVAX::CESCOBAR | The EscoBarbarian | Fri Jan 10 1992 15:25 | 2 |
|
it makes me think that Pete isn't very good with animals... ;')
|
64.289 | Pass the Suger,Puhlezzz.. | WMOIS::MAZURKA | Son of the Dawn | Sun Jan 12 1992 10:29 | 3 |
| The only time I like that song is when I'm eatin shreaded Wheat.
Crazy_bland_Al
|
64.290 | | WLDWST::GKEFALINOS | ItAintWhatYouGotButWhatYouGive | Mon Mar 02 1992 14:11 | 7 |
|
Is it true that Vivian Campbell joined Wet Leotards?
It would be a most excellent improvement.
Gerry
|
64.291 | | WMOIS::MAZURKA | Son of the Dawn | Mon Mar 02 1992 15:09 | 3 |
| Thought I heard sumthin about Campell joinin Dread Zepplin.
Crazy_maybe_Al
|
64.292 | A little news | CYNO::FERRIS | Guaranteed to blow your head apart | Mon Mar 02 1992 16:56 | 15 |
|
I heard today the the album is etitled "Adrenalized" (?). The guys on
KILO morning show were saying they would have it before the end of the
month.
I'm not sure who in this conference stated that if you thought that
the new Metallica release was hyped. Ya ain't seen nothin yet. I'll
bet I will be sick of it before it even gets in the CD bins! (Even tho
I liked some of the tunes on Hysteria, I have a feelin that this will
be really overplayed)
mike (who says we won't have to worry about
being sick of Metallica anymore on MTV
once this gets out)
|
64.293 | | PAKORA::IGOLDIE | Prepare to be dazzled | Mon Mar 16 1992 21:25 | 5 |
| the new single has been getting some air play here in the UK.Its title
is something very cliched(Rock me?)and wasn't all that good.
Staynz
|
64.294 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | I gonna build the Wall again... | Tue Mar 17 1992 07:31 | 7 |
| RE: -1
Staynz wins the understatement of the week award!
I heard the tune the other day and it inhaled in a very major fashion!
Bonzo (Staynz look out for mail in a couple of hours)
|
64.296 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | We heard the angels of madness | Wed Mar 18 1992 17:53 | 1 |
| I heard Viv Campbell has the gig as new guitarist!
|
64.298 | | GAMGEE::ROBR | II days left until LA!!!! | Thu Mar 19 1992 04:22 | 3 |
|
i heard viv before i heard sykes. i think sykes is the dude now...
|
64.299 | Back to the Shadows.. | KBOMFG::TMCMANUS | | Thu Mar 19 1992 05:57 | 11 |
| ..well if it's Viv, then that's the end of Shadow King after just
releasing their first album.
Shadow King were being hyped as the band featuring Vivian Campbell
and Lou Gramm. FWIW, I thought their release showed a lot of promise..
Tom
oh and by the way, I now hear the Lepps are also on the bill at the
Freddie M. gig. It's beginning to look like your PR guy isn't worth
his salt, if he doesn't get you this gig!
|
64.300 | | SUBURB::COOKS | I`m the Ace Face in a Zoot Suit | Thu Mar 19 1992 06:21 | 5 |
| rumour has it,they`re going to release only 300 copies of the new
album.
Er,not really.
|
64.301 | ho hum! | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Meals on Wheels of Steel | Thu Mar 19 1992 10:19 | 9 |
| >>300 copies
At a about 4000 pounds each then they may just recoup some of the
recording costs. Then again, to offset such costs we'll probabaly
get a full page of band sponsorship deals on the sleeve i.e. Joe
uses Dunlop golf balls bought from Shell garages, Rick wears Armani
slippers backstage, Steve used Brand X pharmecuticals etc etc etc.
barry.
|
64.302 | | SUBURB::COOKS | I`m the Ace Face in a Zoot Suit | Thu Mar 19 1992 10:40 | 9 |
| I saw a programme on this lot on TV some time ago,around the time
Ricky Astley the drummer lost his arm.
It wuz quite funny,cuz they were sat in a local Sheffield boozer
looking really fat saying stuff like "eeey,up,lad - aye,they do
a reet tasty drop of bitter in `ere like,yer knaw".
Not the megalomaniac posuers i thought they were,i must admit.
|
64.303 | Def Donovan perhaps? | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Meals on Wheels of Steel | Thu Mar 19 1992 11:27 | 8 |
| Rick ASTLEY drumming for Def "Haley's Comet releases" Leppard?
Surely one of the best kept secrets in Rock n Roll? I bet there's
a few over on this fair isle who'd quite like to chop one of his
arms off along with Stock Aitken & Waterman. What next? Jason Donovan
joins Slayer?
barry.
|
64.304 | Coffee out the nose... | CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELL | Swervin' Irvan" | Thu Mar 19 1992 14:32 | 3 |
| That was funny!!!
What is the drummer's last name anyway??
|
64.305 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | We heard the angels of madness | Thu Mar 19 1992 14:38 | 1 |
| Allen
|
64.306 | I can do my Rick Allen impersonation... | COMET::FRISBYA | Anyway the wind blows | Thu Mar 19 1992 15:10 | 4 |
| RIGHTIOUS NAME!
Frizkid
|
64.308 | | KIDVAX::CESCOBAR | One Card Short Of A Full Deck | Thu Mar 19 1992 22:00 | 4 |
|
Was quite funny too, Pete.
8-)
|
64.309 | | JUPITR::BJUBINVILLE | HEATSEEKER | Mon Mar 23 1992 05:54 | 6 |
| Rick Astley is that scrawny red head with the deep voice that
had that "Never Gonna Give You Up." Rick Allen is and has always
been the drummer.
BJ
|
64.310 | Early Impressions | CYNO::FERRIS | Guaranteed to blow your head apart | Mon Mar 23 1992 11:57 | 8 |
|
Well, after hearing the new one that is already starting to be played
to death, I have to say I don't like it at all. The song I've been
hearin sounds like bad second takes of the last one. I didn't mind alot
of Hysteria, but from what I've heard so far, I'll just have to say no
to it.
mike
|
64.311 | Hurl | CSLALL::MCLEMENT | Caught in the Mosh | Mon Mar 23 1992 12:11 | 12 |
|
Didn't you hear, they used all the same tracks off the last album.
The only tracks they had to do was vocal, and the sampled guitar
fills......
;^)
MC
|
64.312 | | MR4DEC::JWHITMAN | That was all she wrote | Mon Mar 23 1992 14:01 | 7 |
|
Acck! this tune rots! Don't like it at all.. 'Lets get the rock outta
here!' PLEEAAASEEE!! give me a break.. Why don't they just say,
"Lets get the Funk outta here!"
|
64.313 | This song should be illegal! | COMET::FRISBYA | Anyway the wind blows | Mon Mar 23 1992 14:10 | 6 |
| I second that!!!!
4 out of 5 poseurs agree that the new Def Leppaerd blows!!!
Frizkid
|
64.315 | | KIRKTN::IGOLDIE | Everybody wants some | Mon Mar 23 1992 14:25 | 5 |
| I doubt if I'll go and see them in concert this time.Hey Friz,we agree
on something. .....shock!
Staynz
|
64.316 | | DYMNDZ::JUDY | Devil or angel, only she knows | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:18 | 5 |
|
I must have been in a closet or something.....I don't think
I've heard the new DL!
|
64.317 | Insulted! | COMET::FRISBYA | Anyway the wind blows | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:19 | 12 |
| Way shock!!! Pyromania was my first album ever...It was great!
Hysteria was listenable but this new song is kind of like an
insult to rock fans mentality.
Let's get, let's get let's get rocked.....What I'm I suppose to
buy that? Gimme a break!!!!!!! It sounds just like the last album as
far drums go...I know the dude has no arm but c'mon...I know he
programs it anyway!
Frizkid
|
64.318 | | KIRKTN::IGOLDIE | Everybody wants some | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:22 | 7 |
| re.316
JJ
count your blessings you haven't heard it as it's a pile o' shite.
Staynz
|
64.319 | And BTW - glad you've finally come out of the closet. | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | HereComesTrouble&ItLooksLikeFun | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:22 | 9 |
|
RE: JJ
Whaddaya say we both lock ourselves in a closet ... at least I
won't be thinking about Def Leppard for awhile!!
8^)
GTI
|
64.320 | Where was I? | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:51 | 6 |
| I musta been in the closet with JJ, 'cause I haven't heard the new
stuff yet. From what you all are saying, doesn't sound like I'm
missing much... Too bad, another good band mushes out and goes down
the tubes.
gh
|
64.322 | | XCUSME::JENNISON | Dream Weaver | Mon Mar 23 1992 15:57 | 1 |
| Is this the song that says = Lets Get The Rock Out of Here?
|
64.323 | they've lost it...their next album name will have profantiy init | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Mon Mar 23 1992 16:03 | 5 |
| BTW, I just gotta say it...
What a stupid cliche!!!! Don't these guys have a brain anymore???
gh
|
64.324 | IMO | POWDML::GOLDBERG | black diamond | Mon Mar 23 1992 16:28 | 7 |
|
Yup, it is "get the rock out of here" and it totally bites!
Goddess F.
|
64.325 | Tums down | CSLALL::MCLEMENT | Caught in the Mosh | Mon Mar 23 1992 16:30 | 12 |
|
To the people that haven't heard it, you problibly have but thought
it was off their last album..............
I just can't wait to hear the rest of it, NOT!
MC
|
64.326 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | cry to me | Mon Mar 23 1992 16:35 | 2 |
| I have heard the album (aren't promos wonderful?!). It's the same as
the single...same sound...same formula, etc.
|
64.327 | | DYMNDZ::JUDY | Devil or angel, only she knows | Mon Mar 23 1992 16:59 | 14 |
|
re: Shawn
I shoulda known you'd come back with somekinda comment for
that one. =)
re: Greg
Oooh baby! =) Why didn't ya let me know you were there? ;)
JJ
|
64.328 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Mon Mar 23 1992 18:54 | 5 |
| > Oooh baby! =) Why didn't ya let me know you were there? ;)
I was that skeleton there...
gh
|
64.329 | | KIDVAX::CESCOBAR | One Card Short Of A Full Deck | Mon Mar 23 1992 23:26 | 11 |
|
I heard it a few times... It's gotta be leftover material from
Hysteria, which in my opinion was one of the worst albums god ever let
someone unleash upon an unsuspecting world.
The new song is crap along with Def Leppard. I always hated that name
too.
|
64.330 | LAME LAME LAME!!!! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Tue Mar 24 1992 00:46 | 17 |
| Well, as fate would have it, after crabbing about not having heard it
this morning, I was "treated" to it not once, but twice during the 15
minutes I listened to the radio on the way home tonight.
I flipped on the radio and that song was already playing, a song or two
later and I changed stations and there it was again. I sure hope this
isn't indicative of how much airplay this piece of crap is getting,
because if it is, then it proves that radio playlists are affected by
nothing more the record company dollars, because there's no way any
self respecting program director would conceivably schedule this stupid
song. Ever.
It's terrible! Completely cliche, rehash material. I expected more,
guess I shouldn't have.
gh (who hopes he never hears it again)
|
64.332 | | SUBURB::COOKS | Dressed Right,For a Beach Fight | Tue Mar 24 1992 11:23 | 6 |
| I think it`s really good,actually. Intelligent thought provoking
lyrics,and very original style of playing.
Not really. I just thought it`d be boring if i put "it`s crap" like
everyone else.
|
64.333 | Now you'll be able to see and hear it too much! | CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELL | Swervin' Irvan" | Tue Mar 24 1992 11:59 | 3 |
| And don't forget the video premieres soon on MTV!
Tim
|
64.334 | Really bites | CYNO::FERRIS | Guaranteed to blow your head apart | Tue Mar 24 1992 12:10 | 7 |
|
I told you guys, you won't have Metallica to kick around anymore once
this comes out. Everytime I got in my truck yesterday it was on the
radio. I think they should send it to AM radio where it belongs! 8^).
mike
|
64.335 | | FREEBE::REAUME | ACCESS the Tone Zone | Tue Mar 24 1992 12:30 | 7 |
|
I'm sure MTV will *commit* to playing it at least once an hour
on ultra-mega-heavy- rotation. Time to give the remote control
a workout!!!!!
-B()()M-
|
64.336 | Turning them off is an option! Thank GOD! | COMET::FRISBYA | Anyway the wind blows | Tue Mar 24 1992 12:56 | 4 |
| time to turn the T.V. off!!! ACK!!
Frizkid
|
64.337 | | WLDWST::GKEFALINOS | Boinken Sie Nicht | Tue Mar 24 1992 13:24 | 12 |
|
That song made me do my andrew dice clay imitation...
ACK!
GNGK
PTFT
|
64.338 | Don't get too boring! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Tue Mar 24 1992 15:39 | 5 |
| This song is *truly* wretched! Total bubble gum!!!
BTW, yer bustin me up, Stu! HAHA!
gh
|
64.339 | o | CSLALL::MCLEMENT | Caught in the Mosh | Tue Mar 24 1992 17:57 | 6 |
|
They'll problibly use clips from thier other videos..... ;^)
MC
|
64.340 | Give 'em a break! They've been through some hell! | DPDMAI::THRELFALL | marble mosh! | Tue Mar 24 1992 18:15 | 1 |
| Aww c'mon. It's not *that* bad y'all. You people are brutal!
|
64.341 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | HereComesTrouble&ItLooksLikeFun | Tue Mar 24 1992 19:37 | 9 |
|
I just heard it about 15 minutes ago, and it IS horrible.
RE: April
And calling it "horrible" IS giving them a break. 8^)
GTI
|
64.343 | | KIDVAX::CESCOBAR | One Card Short Of A Full Deck | Tue Mar 24 1992 22:11 | 7 |
|
YEah April they've had problems but that's how it crumbles, cookie
wise. Doesn't mean they can't write different songs.
Chris
|
64.344 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | HereComesTrouble&ItLooksLikeFun | Wed Mar 25 1992 09:26 | 9 |
|
RE: Pete
>That settles it. If Shawn hates it, it inhales! 8-)
I feel so ... ummm, so "definitive". 8^)
GTI
|
64.346 | Rollling Stone reviews it | CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELL | Swervin' Irvan" | Wed Mar 25 1992 12:09 | 11 |
| Rolling Stone gave it **** out of *****. That translates to excellent. ***** is
classic. I had to read the review to see if they mentioned Let's get Rocked.
They said was it was derivative of Pour Some Sugar on Me. They liked the
lyrics and stated they were thought provoking??? I almost fell off my chair!!!
Maybe Let's Get Rocked isn't typical of the rest. It definitely sounds like a
holdout from Hysteria. I happen to like Hysteria (most of it anyway), so I will
have to see if maybe I was too quick to pass judgement. I don't think I will
be able to like Let's Get Rocked though...
Tim
|
64.348 | | CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELL | Swervin' Irvan" | Wed Mar 25 1992 12:45 | 1 |
| Why thank you!
|
64.349 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | HereComesTrouble&ItLooksLikeFun | Wed Mar 25 1992 13:14 | 10 |
|
RE: Pete
But Rolling Stone gave the Mystic Powers demo a good review too.
Just kidding. 8^)
GTI
|
64.350 | Way Lame | CYNO::FERRIS | I'll be waitin in refrigerater heaven. | Wed Mar 25 1992 16:40 | 8 |
|
I haven't read a Rolling Stone Mag. since the 70's. Last time I
flipped through one a year or two ago I had to actually search for
anything music related, there were so many ads that it was pathetic.
Must be owned and operated by MTV.
mike
|
64.351 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Heartbreak Boulevard | Mon Mar 30 1992 13:47 | 11 |
| Well, I *finally* heard this song!!
Impressions? Well, I think the lyrics are lame, understandably,
but I think that once again, Mutt Lange has done an OUTSTANDING
job of producing this band!!! Mutt got GREAT soungs to tape,
good performances from the band, and the mix is outstanding.
The band may suck, but they have one top notch producer working
with them!!
This song reminded me a lot of the direction the cars last album
was headed in...
|
64.352 | I suppose a rocks outta the question. ACK! | COMET::FRISBYA | Anyway the wind blows | Mon Mar 30 1992 15:07 | 10 |
| What crap?
I think the production is wonderful but for a rock and roll band it
just doesn't fit. He has taken all of their edge that was present
in the old days. To much production makes for another sterile
Def Leppard release.
FWIW-The video is killer as long as you've got the t.v. on mute. 8)
Frizkid
|
64.353 | Product produced for the Market ... a smart move in the 90s | CAVLRY::BUCK | Heartbreak Boulevard | Mon Mar 30 1992 15:24 | 31 |
| > I think the production is wonderful but for a rock and roll band it
>just doesn't fit. He has taken all of their edge that was present
>in the old days. To much production makes for another sterile
>Def Leppard release.
What I think you're failing to see, Friz, is that Def Leppard have
crossed-over as a band! They are not pretending to be the AC/DCish
band they once were on their On Thru The Night/High & Dry releases.
Matt Lange has slowly been modifying this groups sound for a wider
audience appeal. The release of Pyromania in 1983 marked their
cross-over to from the hard-rock genre to mainstream power pop. Today
(9 years after the release of Pyro), I wouldn't not call them HM or
even hard rock. They are polished power pop at best. Sort of like
Hall and Oates with a heavier guitar sound. This super-polished
high-tech sound is geared towards a mass audience appeal, and it works.
Def Lep's audience grew tremendously with the release of Hysteria (on
the basis of sappy pop songs like Pour Some Sugar.. and Love Bites).
This new release is designed to pull in even more fans from across the
listening spectrum (my guess is a somewhat older crowd...like those
that listen to Mariah Carey or Garth Brooks).
So, look at it from that standpoint...the sound is naturally evolving
with their marketing strategy. Had they not given a crap about
marketing, or gaining a wider audience, they'd probably still sound
like the High and Dry lp (but would also probably still be playing
opening slots on someone else's major tour!!). This is nothing
new...other "former" hard-rock/HM bands are following suit in this
trend, like Van Halen, Aerosmith, Motley Crue, and even Metallica.
Sure, Motley and Metallica have a long way to go before their albums
sound like Hysteria, but they are on their way...it obvious...
|
64.354 | | DPE::STARR | They call it Paradise, I don't know why | Mon Mar 30 1992 16:01 | 9 |
| I agree with past remarks - the music is decent (although pretty reminicient
of earlier hits), the lyrics totally lame, the production very cool, and
th video is way cool also.
BTW, I believe the band co-produced the album this time around, which they
said was a very big step for them (sounds like they actually did help produce
it, rather than just saying that).
alan
|
64.356 | what's wrong with this picture? | USOPS::ZAPPIA | have you *seen* their new single? | Mon Mar 30 1992 17:59 | 2 |
|
Yea, I liked the video but didn't care for the song.
|
64.357 | At least the video was interesting... | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Mon Mar 30 1992 18:23 | 22 |
| I'm with Jim, I like the video, but hate the song.
I have to disagree with you on this one, Buck. I understand your
explanation about the slick production, but I think this one is just
too slick. They don't sound like a rock & roll band anymore. This is
the kind of production I'd expect from someone like Dave Stewart, not
Mutt Lange! I mean, come on, Richard Marx has a rougher sound then Def
Leppard do on this song. I think it's way too slick and polished,
regardless of their target market. I think it loses it's intensity and
just sounds boring because of it.
Plus, even though the mix is good, I think it's too busy. There are
too many little sound effects whacked in there here and there and a lot
more layers then I like to hear. I'd rather hear a band then a
production and it sounds to me like the band is pushed into the
background by all the production on this one.
I guess if my songs were that lame, I'd try and find SOMETHING to
compensate for it. Production compensates for poor songwriting, right?
;-(
Greg
|
64.358 | Harzard part I | COMET::FRISBYA | Anyway the wind blows | Mon Mar 30 1992 19:56 | 5 |
| Speaking of Richard Marx.....I kinda like his new song!
It kinda weird murder stuff for him to be doing.
Frizkid
|
64.360 | Couldv'e been a wig | COMET::FRISBYA | Anyway the wind blows | Mon Mar 30 1992 20:04 | 4 |
| Yea...but at the end doesn't he cut it off?
Frizkid
|
64.361 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Mon Mar 30 1992 20:14 | 8 |
| Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Richard Marx (in fact, I kinda like
a lot of his stuff), I just used that as a comparison of someone who
plays pure pop music.
FWIW, his hair is better now, doesn't make him look like his head is
all huge and distended...
gh
|
64.362 | | POWDML::GOLDBERG | stop draggin' around | Tue Apr 07 1992 18:11 | 87 |
| - taken without permission from Rolling Stone Magazine, Issue 628,
April 16, 1992.
Record Review
ADRENALIZE - Def Leppard * * * *
Generally speaking, it's time to worry when the term *long-awaited*
gets appended to an album. *Long-awaited* doesn't just mean that he
band in question took its sweet time delivering the disc; usually, it's
industry code for "bloated and overblown."
Except, that is, when the long-awaited release in question is the work
of Def Leppard. This, remember, is the only major rock act that works
more slowly than Bruce Springsteen. In fairness, the band's tardiness
isn't entirely the product of foot dragging, as the death of guitarist
Steve Clark undoubtedly slowed this album (and doubled fellow guitarist
Phil Collen's workload) even more than the loss of drummer Rick Allen's
arm complicated the completion of *Hysteria*.
Yet regardless of the time spent in the studio, Def Leppard's albums
never seem especially labored or overwrought. If anything, the
opposite is true - the band's music seems so effortlessly accessible
that most listeners probably don't even notice the incredible amount of
craft that goes into each release.
Nor is *Adrenalize*, with its insistence on intensely tuneful,
unrepentantly frivolous material, likely to change that. There's no
overriding concept to the album, no sense of the group's confronting
its demons or wrestling with the problems of the world; instead, what
we get is a seemingly unending string of energetic, hook-heavy,
gosh-we-luv-'em songs about girls. A perfect Def Leppard album, in
other worlds.
That's not meant sarcastically, either. Because truth be told, it's
far easier to prop up several couplets of self-revelation with a few
heavy-metal riffs that it is to turn an idea as commonplace as romantic
desire into asong as memorable as "Have You Ever Needed Someone So
Bad". But that's what Def Leppard does best, and *Adrenalize* is the
band's most consistent effort to date. Take "Have You Ever Needed
Someone So Bad" as an example. Although the title p/retty much sums up
the idea behind the tune, the band is wise enough to recognize that
when it comes to love songs, *what* gets said matters for less than
*hwo* it gets said. Thus, the heart of the song is its melodic
development, the way Joe Elliott's vocal builds from the breathy,
low-key opening verse to the soaring, full-throated harmonies of the
chorus. It's so perfectly paced that you hardly need to hear the
lyrics to understand what the song is saying; the sound says it all.
That's typical of Def Leppard, though. From the first, this was a band
that gloried in the power of heavy metal's musical gestures - the
towering majesty of power riff, the momentary freedom of guitar break,
the exhilaration of a singer's scream - and as the group has grown, its
ability to manipulate that vocabulary has expanded to the point that
its songs have become mini-masterpieces of aural impact.
Just listen to all the sonic detail crammed into the album-opening
"Let's Get Rocked." Although rhythmically the song is an obvious
descendant of "Pour Some Sugar on Me", playing off a throbbing Rick
Savage bass line, stylistically it's miles beyond the last album, full
of puns ("Let's get the rock out of here"), special effects (when
Elliott complains about his girlfriend's fondness for classical music,
the band mockingly answers with a snippet of Beethoven's Fifth) and all
sorts of stagy good humor. Yet the Leps work these gimmicks in so
gracefully that they never interrupt the music's flow, acting not as
unnecessary contrivances but simply as another level of hook.
And there are hooks of every sort on *Adrenalize*, from broad strokes
like the gloriously harmonized chorus of "Heaven Is" to ear-catching
details like the little yodel Elliott slips into "Personal Property".
(Adrenalize* is so relentlessly catchy that it almost seems as if the
band is about to abondon its heavy-metal roots for the greaner fields
of hard pop. That's not to say the album is any softer than its
predecessors - certainly the crunchy guitars of "Tear it Down" or "Make
Love Like a Man" are proof to the contrary - just that it's not as
noisily aggressive.
Consider that a sign of maturity. After all, what made *Hysteria* and
*Pyromania* worth returning to wasn't their fist-pumping energy but the
unabashed tunefulness the band tied to that sheer force. *Adrenalize*
simply makes that connection more explicit, proving in the process that
Def Leppard is one of the catchiest bands in rock. And if that doesn't
make *Adrenalize* worth waiting for, I don't know what would.
|
64.363 | | DPE::STARR | They call it Paradise, I don't know why | Tue Apr 07 1992 18:50 | 10 |
| re: Buck
> but I think that once again, Mutt Lange has done an OUTSTANDING job of
> producing this band!!! Mutt got GREAT soungs to tape, good performances
> from the band, and the mix is outstanding.
Turns out that Mutt Lange didn't produce the album!!! I forget who actually
did it, it was a name I wasn't familiar with......
alan
|
64.364 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | The road to nowhere leads to me | Tue Apr 07 1992 18:54 | 7 |
| Huh?!
Well, I'll be. Don't know what to say, but the production has MUTT
written all over it (same CMI samples, same type of busy arrangement,
etc.)
Well, wherever did produce it did a great job!
|
64.365 | | RDGENG::EMARTIN | Behind, beneath, beyond | Wed Apr 08 1992 14:17 | 11 |
|
In an interview on Raw Power, Joe said that both the band and the
engineer they'd worked with before (can't remember his name) produced
the album, with Mutt being 'executive producer' as he was busy
doing the Bryan Adams album at the time.
They couldn't wait for Mutt to finish Bryan's album so they decided
to go ahead without him, but turn to him for guidance and help if and
when they needed it.
Emma
|
64.366 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Wed Apr 08 1992 16:58 | 5 |
| I finally heard another song (other then that pinnacle of lameness
"Let's get Rocked") and it was a bit better. I'd never consider buying
the album though...
Glh
|
64.367 | | SUBURB::COOKS | GS Scooter and my hair cut neat | Thu Apr 09 1992 12:18 | 9 |
| ho!ho! I just read in the Daily Mirror newspaper than "an unkown
guitarist called Vivian Campbell has joined Def Leppard. Campbell,
a former member of little known Los Angeles band River Dogs,is poised
to become a millionaire overnight".
They have a photo of him,so it`s definitely the same Vivian Campbell
who wuz also in "little known" groups Whitesnake,Dio et al.
|
64.368 | | KIRKTN::IGOLDIE | Everybody wants some | Thu Apr 09 1992 12:24 | 5 |
| Vivian,thats a girlies name!!
Staynz
|
64.369 | How can anyone buy it? | COMET::FRISBYA | She took me down the road to ruins | Thu Apr 09 1992 12:31 | 5 |
| I heard on the radio Def Leppard will take over the #1 spot
on Billboard next week. Shows what we know....
Frizkid
|
64.370 | | FREEBE::REAUME | Two Bear Kicks! | Thu Apr 09 1992 13:56 | 17 |
|
There's *nothing* like a big bucks offer from an established
money-making band to turn a hungry musicians ear. So, I'm real
surprised that Vivian Campbell took the offer. For that matter
I'm surprised that Adrian Vandenberg joined Whitsnake and Vai
joined DLR and Whitesnake. Yeah - right!
There's nothing like taking the Ferrari out for a spin when you're
bored ------------------
...FWIW - I'd be interested in seeing what Vivian Cambell does
in this context!
-B()()M-
|
64.371 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | The road to nowhere leads to me | Thu Apr 09 1992 14:16 | 4 |
| Viv is a great player...I really liked what he did with Dio and Rain
Dogs. Didn't hear Shadow Kings. If he is replacing Steamin Steve
Clark, looks like Viv may have to break out his Les Paul and Marshall
rig again! 8^)
|
64.372 | | KIRKTN::IGOLDIE | Everybody wants some | Thu Apr 09 1992 15:48 | 4 |
| Viv is a tremendous player.Dio went down the toilet when he left.I bet
he shows up whatshisface who plays guitar in DL too!
Staynz
|
64.373 | | CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELL | Write me up for 125" | Thu Apr 09 1992 15:50 | 9 |
| Interesting article in Rolling Stone this week on Def Leppard. Talked about
Steve's 2 "deaths" The first being when they found him in the gutter with a
BAC (Blood Alcohol Count) of 0.59 in Minneapolis. (John Bonham died with a 0.41
- but he puked).
Anyway, they admit they are a studio band. They have trouble playing anything
but their own stuff.
Tim
|
64.374 | Could go either way | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Thu Apr 09 1992 17:19 | 5 |
| Should be interesting how Viv and Phil Collen interact in DL. I always
thought of both of them as "lead" guitarists. Steve Clark, on the
other hand, I thought of cool rhythms.
gh
|
64.375 | | FREEBE::REAUME | I've got a pocket full of 'em! | Mon Apr 13 1992 20:52 | 14 |
|
I'll be one of the first to admit it:
I bought ADRENALIZE! I saw it on sale and said WTF. After checking it
out I think Collen's guitar playing has matured quite a bit since
joining DL. It IS just about all his guitar playing. I wish I could
hear what Vivian Campbell gets to add to the band. It'll be some time
before we see him as a contributor and not just playing somebody elses
part. As for the CD? Very much what I expected. Formulated heavy pop.
Not to say that's bad. They seem to be able to pull this off in a way
that doesn't alienate a lot of listeners with other tastes. My $.02.
-B()()M-
|
64.376 | Interesting.... | COMET::FRISBYA | She's pretty tied up | Mon Apr 13 1992 21:07 | 5 |
| I guess our opinions don't count for everybody.
Adrenalize sold 380,000 in the first week.....
Frizkid
|
64.378 | Rick Allen went back to where his arm was taking off | COMET::FRISBYA | B. SEAL-Don't go away mad,Just go away | Wed Sep 23 1992 17:45 | 5 |
| The band had a Rockumentery(sp) done on Mtv last night.
It was interesting and a little sad...
Friz
|
64.379 | "Back to the days of old." | SALEM::STIG | | Wed Sep 23 1992 20:34 | 5 |
| DL is another band that I think should lay off the over-production
garb. Why won't they go back to the sound of "Pyromania". It's what got
them to where they are today. It was a great raw sound and produced to
perfection. And...it wasn't like bubble gum stuff. I wished they never
changed there sound and style. This new stuff gets to me...
|
64.380 | Much bigger that Pyromania.... | COMET::FRISBYA | Living in the grey | Wed Sep 23 1992 20:40 | 4 |
| One answer.....Mutt Lange and FWIW--He is the reason they're so huge.
Friz
|
64.381 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Don't fear, Love will make us strong | Wed Sep 23 1992 20:42 | 2 |
| I wish they would go back to their ON THRU THE NIGHT sound, but
then they wouldn't be mega-huge either, so...
|
64.382 | But that *was* 15 years ago, everyone changes... | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Low self opinion | Wed Sep 23 1992 20:55 | 5 |
| OTTN and High & Dry had a rippin raw sound! They were an amazing band
back then. With Pyromania came the first hints of the ever increasing
production polishing which has persisted ever since.
gh
|
64.383 | | METALX::SWANSON | Find all you need in your mind | Wed Sep 23 1992 21:09 | 3 |
| re: -1, -2
Exactly!!!!!
|
64.384 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | The pursuit of happiness | Wed Sep 23 1992 22:33 | 3 |
| Agreed on the high and dry,on through the night was good 'n' raw too!
Staynz
|
64.385 | | KDX200::COOPER | I even use TONE soap !! | Thu Sep 24 1992 02:38 | 7 |
| I liked the old stuff (Espec. OTTN, H&D etc..), but in case ya'll
didn't notice, the drummer only has one arm, and can onlu play
electronic drums. They HAD to change (IMHO) so that they could keep
their drummer. And I've said before - I gotta lot of respect for them,
that they kept together while they waited for Rick to re-learn...
jc
|
64.386 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | The pursuit of happiness | Thu Sep 24 1992 03:17 | 7 |
| I agree on the respect part,it would have been easy for them to get a
new drummer but they stuck with it but the more albums they make,the
more studio orientated they become.
Staynz
|
64.387 | | KDX200::COOPER | I even use TONE soap !! | Thu Sep 24 1992 03:21 | 3 |
| Agreed - SUPER processed !! I like it from an engineering standpoint,
but I like the "grungie old stuff"...
jc
|
64.389 | "What the future might hold." | SALEM::STIG | | Fri Sep 25 1992 03:23 | 10 |
| I respect the band a lot but that doesn't mean they can't be more
creative in there music. I don't think the ability of the drummer has
anything to do with it. He is a great drummer (with one arm). As far as
electronic drums. They have drum machine sounds that sound like the
real thing. Also, the drummer has never been a flashy type drummer. He
has always been a groove drummer. They could still get away from the
bubble gum music if they wanted to. Mutt Lange is leading them to
bubble gum stardom just like he is with Bryan Adams. Who knows what
might happen in the near future though. There new guitarist has a
mighty reputation as far as that old raw sound...YEAH!!
|
64.390 | Heaven is.... | COMET::FRISBYA | Living in the grey | Fri Sep 25 1992 14:02 | 15 |
| As much as some people want it to happen....It won't.
Viv C. isn't going to change the band what so ever. I have a feeling
that if he does he'll get the big axe.
Mutt lange is a VERY big part of this band and from what I've seen he
calls the shots.
I also saw an interview with Joe E. and Viv C. on Mtv and Viv said it
was a 'natural' progression to be playing this kind of music and he
didn't want to play anymore (Placing the thumb to the two bent middle
fingers and acting like Ronnie James Dio) "Heavy Metal".
I like the album except for "Let's get Rocked" and the album is
doing good in Billboard too. 8)
Friz
|
64.391 | | BOVES::FENNELL | Living in the limelight | Fri Sep 25 1992 14:09 | 17 |
| I don't want this to be taken the wrong way. I have Hysteria and like it a
lot.
I think that DL is kind of low on the talent side. The segments I've heard
them do live are usually kind of, hmmm, lacking. I read in Rolling Stone
where they've admitted the same sort of thing.
They were auditioning Viv Campbell and had trouble finding a song they all
knew because they don't improvise too well (if at all!).
I think they've found their niche. A studio band that manages somehow to
get a take right and a producer who knows how to package them.
I agree Friz, other than LGR, the rest of the album is good enough to do well
and they'll sell zillions of em.
Tim
|
64.392 | "Bubble gum selz" | SALEM::STIG | | Fri Sep 25 1992 15:03 | 3 |
| Yeah..All bubble gum sellzzz. I'm just sick of hearing the same old
stuff I guess. Melody and creativity is my niche'. I think they still
can be creative but Mutt is cutting them off. All $$$$.
|
64.393 | Leppard owe him alot. | COMET::FRISBYA | Living in the grey | Fri Sep 25 1992 15:53 | 8 |
| If you're looking for melody then you should like Def Leppard. they
have melody UP THE WAZOO!
FWIW-While "big hooks" sell alot of records I think that Mutt
didn't/doesn't do it fore the money. I truely think that that's the
kinda of music he likes and the kind of sound he enjoys.
Friz
|
64.394 | "Mutt controls" | SALEM::STIG | | Mon Sep 28 1992 13:42 | 4 |
| Yeah..Mutt is in for the$$$$..Sell, sell sell. That doesn't assure good
music though. You can't compare the new from the old.Pyromania does it
all in...and it goes to show that you can sell the older music just the
same.
|
64.395 | Innocent before proven guilty. | COMET::FRISBYA | SINGLE with TOYZ | Mon Sep 28 1992 15:24 | 6 |
| What did you ask Mutt? Is he your uncle? Does your brother's girlfriend
have a friend that knows his father?
And if not then HOW do YOU know he's in it for the bucks?
Friz
|
64.396 | ex | CAVLRY::BUCK | WHATZ goin ON?!? | Mon Sep 28 1992 15:28 | 2 |
|
He knowz everything ... so THAIR!
|
64.397 | "There in the M$NEY." | SALEM::STIG | | Tue Sep 29 1992 03:23 | 2 |
| Yeah...so thair. There all in it for the$$$. I shouldn't just say it
for Mutt.
|
64.398 | Don't you wanna be rich? | COMET::FRISBYA | spell I-M-A-G-E and say LIGHTBULB | Tue Sep 29 1992 13:21 | 4 |
| Can't blame a group for wanting to be rich can ya?
Friz
|
64.399 | "Money talks" | SALEM::STIG | | Tue Sep 29 1992 17:05 | 3 |
| No...but if its gonna change the way i would like things they can have
the money. I think i'd rather do what i wanted first before the money.
But money talks for some people...
|
64.400 | Greed is stonger than your will. | COMET::FRISBYA | spell I-M-A-G-E and say LIGHTBULB | Tue Sep 29 1992 17:07 | 4 |
| Yeah right...You're fooling yourself.
Friz
|
64.402 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Low self opinion | Tue Sep 29 1992 19:09 | 1 |
| depends on how much money we're talking about
|
64.403 | BIG $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ | COMET::FRISBYA | spell I-M-A-G-E and say LIGHTBULB | Tue Sep 29 1992 19:41 | 9 |
| Just because you're born again doesn't have a thing to do with the
human feelings of greed. If it did ...Why are you going to school?
TO GET MORE MONEY.
Greg: Think how many DL albums have been sold? I think the figure
would even bring out the greed in a "granola" child such as yourself.
8)
Friz
|
64.404 | NOT! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Low self opinion | Tue Sep 29 1992 20:01 | 1 |
| "granola"???? XCUSME???
|
64.405 | I saw you wearing those flowers in your hair! | COMET::FRISBYA | spell I-M-A-G-E and say LIGHTBULB | Tue Sep 29 1992 20:02 | 4 |
| Granola child....Yes!
Friz
|
64.406 | LZ | COMET::FRISBYA | spell I-M-A-G-E and say LIGHTBULB | Tue Sep 29 1992 20:05 | 4 |
| I've got my flower...I've got my power...I've got a woman who knows.
Friz
|
64.407 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Low self opinion | Tue Sep 29 1992 20:05 | 7 |
| "You walk across the floor
with a flower in your hand
try to tell me no one understands
Trade in your hours for a handful of dimes
gonna make it baby if we try"
gh
|
64.409 | "Greed?" | SALEM::STIG | | Wed Sep 30 1992 11:39 | 1 |
| Which doesn't mean you're greedy...
|
64.410 | Last nights concert | TEVIOT::PAUL | | Mon Jun 07 1993 11:34 | 11 |
| Anybody catch last nights concert in their hometown of Sheffield.
It was awesome as usual for them.
Didn't think much of the support though.
The concert was filmed for TV and recorded for Radio 1 (to be aired soon).
Also they have a new album out in October (surprised most people there) which
will contain some new stuff and some old stuff from the past albums.
Anyone else there?
|
64.411 | | GOOEY::JUDY | That's Ms. Bitch to you! | Fri Sep 24 1993 17:00 | 7 |
|
Heard a blurb on the radio yesterday with Vivian Campbell.
Said that most of the stuff on "Adrenalize" is music that's
been written over the past 8-10 years. Some B side music
from European releases and such....
|
64.412 | Retro - Active Leppards | RDGENG::GREID | So Far. So Good, So What ? | Wed Oct 06 1993 09:28 | 27 |
| Da lepps have a new album released this week called RETRO-ACTIVE.
It contains material either released as B-sides to Hysteria singles,
unreleased material and a couple of cover songs. The material is IMO
excellent, I can't stop playing it.
The track listing is as follows :-
Desert Song
Fractured Love
Action
Two Steps Behind (Acoustic version)
She's Too Tough
Miss You In A Heartbeat (Acoustic version)
Only After Dark
Ride Into The Sun
From The Inside
Ring Of Fire
I Wanna Be Your Hero
Two Steps Behind (Electric version)
Miss You In A Heartbeat (Electric version)
My favs are "Desert Song", "She's Too Tough" and "I Wanna Be Your Hero"
although they are all well produced. Pity the original version of
"Tear It Down" wasn't included as I much preferred it to the
Adrenalise version.
Prince Of The Dawn.
|
64.413 | | KDX200::ROBR | Orange squares suck. | Wed Oct 06 1993 12:29 | 4 |
|
oh great. bombarded with DL for another 18 months...
|
64.414 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | Dope for guns | Wed Oct 06 1993 13:02 | 5 |
| the last album these guys did that was any good was Pyromania!
ian
|
64.415 | | METALX::SWANSON | Ride The Lightning | Wed Oct 06 1993 14:56 | 5 |
| Not another Def Lepcrap album....... When are these guys going to stop
torturing us with their utter shite?
|
64.416 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Whose Line Is It Anyway? | Wed Oct 06 1993 15:30 | 6 |
|
When all the teenagers [and Esco] stop buying it.
8^)
GTI
|
64.417 | | ICS::WHITMAN | | Wed Oct 06 1993 16:05 | 7 |
|
Did anyone buy the last release?!
Ack...
Whit-
|
64.418 | | GOES11::HOUSE | Did it. Done it. *WHAP* owwww! | Wed Oct 06 1993 16:46 | 3 |
| > Did anyone buy the last release?!
Not me, I hate things that suck!
|
64.419 | | GOOEY::JUDY | That's Ms. Bitch to you! | Wed Oct 06 1993 17:14 | 4 |
|
Well said Beavis. =)
|
64.420 | | METALX::SWANSON | Ride The Lightning | Wed Oct 06 1993 18:04 | 3 |
| Burn it, Burn it! Heh heh...
|
64.421 | AHHhhhHHHhhHhhhHhhhHhhh!!!!! | CSLALL::MCLEMENT | SIT DOWN! | Thu Oct 07 1993 15:19 | 10 |
|
ya,
fire!
firE!!
fiRE!!!
fIRE!!!
FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
64.422 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | Bite the hand that feeds you...! | Sun Dec 05 1993 10:35 | 6 |
| there's an interview with Viv(girls blouse of a name)Campbell in this
months issue of guitarist magazine.From what he says and how he puts
himself across,he seems like an arrogant git!Its a pity as I always
thought he was quite good!
ian
|
64.423 | JMVHO | NEEPS::IRVINE | If Slash was born in Scotland.... | Mon Dec 06 1993 05:50 | 8 |
| He was quite good ...
Until he sold out to chase the money with Def (inately bif girls blouse
band) Lep.....
Bonzo (Gimme Viv and Dio and you have an excellent combo!)
|
64.424 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | Bite the hand that feeds you...! | Mon Dec 06 1993 06:01 | 7 |
| re-1
agreed!But in the interview he slags of Dio too!He's quite a self
opionated git! 8)
ian
|
64.425 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | If Slash was born in Scotland.... | Mon Dec 06 1993 07:42 | 6 |
| A bit like myself really!
;^)
Bonzo
|
64.426 | Turkey | WMOIS::MAZURKA | Son_Of_Fabio | Mon Dec 06 1993 08:07 | 7 |
| I'm Very Disappointed in Vin..The guy can Wail!Yet he's turned into
a Shame_Less Pouser...
I refuse to go see this Band live so I can't tell if they let him
Rip_Abit in Concert..
Crazy_Can_You_Say_Sell_Out_Al?
|
64.427 | w@nker! | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Scandalized my name! | Mon Dec 06 1993 10:58 | 2 |
| Viv (big nancy blouse!) has lost it. A decade ago, he was top_notch in
my book, now he a slack tart!
|
64.428 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | Bite the hand that feeds you...! | Thu Dec 23 1993 04:08 | 8 |
| Def Leppard have released a cover version of the old Sweet song
"action".Its not as good as Steve Steven's version.Joe Elliots voice
sux a tad!
ian
|
64.429 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | Bob Irvine: B.S., M.S., P.H.D. | Thu Dec 23 1993 05:25 | 10 |
64.430 | ho ho ho and all that keech! | KURMA::IGOLDIE | Bite the hand that feeds you...! | Thu Dec 23 1993 06:08 | 9 |
| hey Its Christmas........
I was being *nice* 8)
ian
|
64.431 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | Bob Irvine: B.S., M.S., P.H.D. | Thu Dec 23 1993 06:11 | 8 |
| Bah Humbug ya swine.....
8*)
This time of year ranks way up there with going to the dentist!
Bonzo ;^)
|
64.432 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | Bite the hand that feeds you...! | Thu Dec 23 1993 07:04 | 9 |
|
I was at the dentist last week........I wish my dentist would shave...
she's really hairy! 8)
|
64.433 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Raptor -- Rules the Skies! | Thu Dec 23 1993 10:11 | 3 |
|
These guys suck...huh huh....yeah...I hate things that suck!
|
64.434 | | ICS::WHITMAN | | Thu Dec 23 1993 10:40 | 10 |
|
Def Leppard did a cover version of "Action"?!
ACK!!!
"Hey Beavis.. He's looking at you.."
Whit-
|
64.435 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Raptor -- Rules the Skies! | Thu Dec 23 1993 11:00 | 5 |
|
>Def Leppard did a cover version of "Action"?!
Yeah...kind of an oxymoron, izn't it!
|
64.436 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Being weird isn't enough | Thu Dec 23 1993 12:00 | 7 |
|
I think Black 'n' Blue's version is my favorite ... Steve Stevens
comes a close second.
[That is, my favorite besides the original.]
GTI
|
64.69 | 69 Repliez!!! | POWDML::BUCKLEY | | Mon Jun 05 1995 18:16 | 1 |
|
|
64.437 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | A swift kick in the butt - $1 | Mon Oct 30 1995 18:53 | 3 |
|
Def Leppard has a "new" one out called "Vault - Greatest Hits".
|
64.438 | | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Thu Nov 09 1995 12:00 | 8 |
|
(set mode sarcastic)Oh joy!
Def Lappard are utter shite now!I remember when they were really good
in the HIgh and Dry era!
ian
|
64.439 | the Leps deserve to be locked in a Vault! | POWDML::BUCKLEY | bullet with butterfly wings | Thu Nov 09 1995 12:29 | 6 |
| -1
Yeah -- The Leps back in 1979/80 with On Through the Night/High n Dry
were excellent! They started to get shitty when they let their
guitarist go in favour of that poof Phil Collins. They haven't
released a decent album since Pyromania.
|
64.440 | | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Thu Nov 09 1995 15:08 | 6 |
|
Pyromania is one of the best,all time HM albums of all time.The follow
up was a bag of shite and they've gone downhill ever since!
ian
|
64.441 | | SUBSYS::MSOUCY | | Thu Nov 09 1995 16:14 | 13 |
|
Pyromania is one of the best,all time HM albums of all time.The
follow up was a bag of shite and they've gone downhill ever since!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Come on Ian! NO WAY! I agree with the bottom half, but definitely NOT
the upper half! High and Dry would best fit that category. Hysteria was
'shite' if you ask me, I got it and was definitely DISAPPOINTED in it!
Mike
|
64.442 | 8) | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Thu Nov 09 1995 18:24 | 7 |
|
I stand by my words...Pyromania was a great album!
ian
|
64.443 | | KDX200::COOPER | You're Aunty ...Aunty social! | Fri Nov 10 1995 01:34 | 2 |
| Pyromania was cool... But so wasn't High-n-Dry....
|
64.444 | Pyromania is excellent | TPLAB::VLASIU | Sorin Vlasiu - Brussels, Belgium | Fri Nov 10 1995 03:30 | 3 |
| I also find Pyromania their best album. Foolin is a real killer song.
Sorin
|
64.445 | | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Fri Nov 10 1995 09:56 | 8 |
|
I liked Stagefright!Their first 3 were great albums,the rest have been
dung!
ian
|
64.446 | New DEF LEPPARD info | POLAR::DASILVA | | Sun Feb 11 1996 22:52 | 11 |
| If there is still anybody out there, I'd like to get your opinions on
some topics. If that's not too much trouble.
1. What do you think of "VAULT"
2. How do feel about Vivian Campbell joining the band. pro/con
3. Did anyone see their latest show
4. Have you heard about their new album due out this year
Please respond and thanks in advance
Frank.
|
64.447 | | SCASS1::BARBER_A | No swords | Mon Feb 12 1996 01:04 | 3 |
| Sorry Frank, it's just too much trouble.
8)
|
64.448 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Don't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448 | Mon Feb 12 1996 10:28 | 6 |
|
I loved Viv Campbell with Dio, but I haven't heard him playing
with Def Leppard. I gave up on Def Leppard when "Hysteria"
came out ... didn't even buy it, since I heard [more than] e-
nough on the radio.
|
64.449 | IMHO | WMOIS::MAZURKA | Son_Of_A_Gun | Mon Feb 12 1996 11:10 | 4 |
| Campell Milks it with DL.He Doesn't Show what he can do..Like he
did when he was with Dio...
Crazy_He's_Board_And_Only_In_It_Fer_The_$$$$$$$$_Al
|
64.450 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Mantis -- Rules the Shrubs! | Mon Feb 12 1996 11:25 | 7 |
| Imho, Campbell could be in DL or not and noone would be the wiser.
His playing is really "behind the scenes" in this band!!
Besides, they're like major has-beens now -- does anyone really care
about this band anymore? I mean, look at the sales of their last two
albums!!
|
64.451 | besides, you need two arms to REALLY drum... | KDCA01::CDCUP_TORREN | Gotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burn | Mon Feb 12 1996 12:53 | 5 |
| I have never really been a fan of DL, but in the last few years
they have REALLY SUCKED, I mean the only thing they write are
Micheal Bolton Power Ballads...
Bobby T
|
64.452 | | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Thu Feb 15 1996 09:25 | 5 |
|
Hysteria was the end of Def Leppard!
ian
|
64.453 | | POLAR::LYLE | like walking on glass | Fri Feb 16 1996 00:39 | 4 |
|
re: -1
..... and the beginning of crap.......
|
64.454 | Just ot confirm that Mylanta doesn't HELP | STRATA::LAMOTHE | Just me,My Fat Boy, & Kelly Bundy | Sun Feb 18 1996 18:12 | 2 |
|
Ian, your wrong, it was the diaherria that ended his tour !
|
64.455 | | POLAR::RENAUDP | livin' life by the drop... | Thu Apr 25 1996 20:22 | 15 |
| I just listened to the new tune out by the Lep's.....
WOW!
They have finally dropped the "Hysteria" sound and this is COMPLETELY
different! If you weren't told it was Def Leppard, you probably
wouldn't know it.
I'm not saying it's a great tune, cause I'd have to listen to it a few
more times, but it is definately different.
Listen for it, it sound's like a bit of a re-birth.
Paully
|
64.456 | | CADSYS::FENNELL | Aisle or window seat? | Thu Apr 25 1996 23:21 | 3 |
| They're out on tour this summer at Great Woods...
|
64.457 | WICKED!!!! | POLAR::DASILVA | | Fri Apr 26 1996 06:27 | 17 |
| I heard the song too. I LLLLLLLLLiked it!!!!!!
It's very different. they said their album was going to be more RAW
and from the sound of this song, I hope the rest is just as good.
I'm waiting for the release of the concert dates. If anyone hears
about dates in eastern Canada- Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, and area,
let me know.
Thanks,
Frank.....
|
64.458 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Cracker | Fri Apr 26 1996 11:49 | 4 |
|
Check note 5.end for the release date of the album, if you
want to know that.
|
64.459 | | BSS::SMITH_S | | Fri Apr 26 1996 19:22 | 2 |
| Skeptical, but I'll give it a listen.
-ss
|
64.460 | | DECWIN::JUDY | That's *Ms. Bitch* to you! | Mon Apr 29 1996 12:16 | 9 |
|
Actually, I heard the first cut from the new CD over
the weekend.
Definitely a bit different.
It's not one of their typical tunes that you automatically
know is them by the first chord.
|
64.461 | that's the fact jack ! | STRATA::LAMOTHE | A B B A | Mon Apr 29 1996 13:50 | 2 |
|
I can play drums better than that guy with no arms...
|
64.462 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Exit light ... enter night. | Mon Apr 29 1996 13:58 | 3 |
|
Ummm, he has 1 arm.
|
64.463 | | BRAT::JENNISON | She Talks To Angels | Mon Apr 29 1996 14:23 | 3 |
|
MMM- Is it me or is he putting himself down ?? Because Rick is pretty
good! hahaha
|
64.464 | Talented | POLAR::DASILVA | | Mon Apr 29 1996 23:38 | 6 |
|
I agree. He is a very good drummer and uses alot of ingenuity to
play what he does which is more than I can say for alot of other so
called drummers.
Frank..
|
64.465 | | POLAR::LYLE | Chairman of the Bored | Tue Apr 30 1996 01:45 | 4 |
|
Did Vivian Campbell have more to do with this new stuff? The guitar
work is a little more on the heavier side (for them).
It's not too bad.
|
64.466 | | BSS::SMITH_S | | Tue Apr 30 1996 01:55 | 6 |
| re -2,-3
Is he a good drummer just because he can keep a beat? I've never heard
anything spectacular, only boredom, from his 4/4 style.
-ss
|
64.467 | | EDWIN::HOOKER | | Tue Apr 30 1996 15:46 | 12 |
| Re: -1
I agree...sure he only has one arm...but that doesn't make him
any more talented. I've never heard him solo or anything but
based on all the DefLeapord I've heard his stuff is just there...
nothing spectacular..just drums...nothin cool...
Even listening to the albums where he had both arms it's nothing
to write home about.
Shane, who thinks if you want to hear a talented drummer (other than
Alex VH of course) then you should listen to some old Living Color
or Dave Matthews Band or Rush...now that's talent put into the music.
|
64.468 | | HOZHED::FENNELL | Aisle or window seat? | Tue Apr 30 1996 16:50 | 1 |
| Dave Matthews band live does some rulin' jams
|
64.469 | JMHO | KDX200::COOPER | Heh heh - Not likely pal | Wed May 01 1996 14:01 | 15 |
| Not that I think the lepps have a great drummer or anything, but
someone here said "Why? Cuz he can keep a beat?"
Without rat-holing I should say that MOST drummers I know can't keep
a beat... Clients come into my studio and spend the majority of their
dough waiting for the drummer to learn to settle into a consistent
beat.
Wanna freak out a drummer? Make him play to a click; most can't unless
they practice with a metronome.
My point is, a solid drummer with good metre is worth ten drummers with
flash...
jc
|
64.470 | | EDWIN::HOOKER | | Wed May 01 1996 14:26 | 27 |
| Re: -1
If you want consistent ... buy a frickin drum machine. ;)
If you want something that makes the music live and breathe
and stirs up all the emotions in your gut and makes you want
to dance around naked then get a good drummer.
Being able to play along with a metronome or click track for any
longer than 30 seconds is a pointless exercise in my opinion.
Click tracks are easier to play along with since they're usually
fed into your head through headphones so you can crank it up to
hear the click over the drums. But playing drums along with a
metronome is pretty hard to do and stay in sync for longer than
a minute. Drummers do not have a 60 Hz oscillator built inside them.
They're not going to be perfect. So long as they can keep control of
the tempo and not let the bassist or guitarists speed it up or slow it
down then that's all they have to worry about as for tempo.
When we recorded we laid down the drum tracks first. We then built
a click track from the drum track rather than the other way around.
Some drummers are just so boring they may as well left the click
track on the music instead of the drums. There has to be some
feeling there too rather than just time keeping IMO.
Shane, who is very hungry right now...I think I'll head to Taco Hell ;)
|
64.472 | A topic near and dear to my heart | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | The moment is a masterpiece | Wed May 01 1996 16:49 | 60 |
| > Being able to play along with a metronome or click track for any
> longer than 30 seconds is a pointless exercise in my opinion.
Spoken like a true drummer.
I understand your point about drummers not being oscillators. Real
music does slow down and speed up and that contributes to the
musicality. Static tempos actually are boring and the mark of
amateurish production.
If you were to look at (for example) some of the stuff I've submitted
to the various GUITAR and COMMUSIC tapes (collections of recordings
from DEC employees) you'd find that most of my stuff has tempo
variation even though it was ALL recorded to a click track. I actually
took the time to create a "tempo track" where (just like a real drummer
does) the tempo varies between the verse, the chorus, break, etc.
And I can definitely hear the difference when I flatten out that tempo
track. Parts that I sped up seem to "pull", parts that I slowed down
seem to "push".
The reason you don't see any value to playing to a click track is that
your band doesn't do anything with MIDI.
One reason to "be ABLE to play to a click track" is to be able to
use the editing functions of sequencers.
We recorded our Metropolis demo in "free time". That is, we did use
a sequencer but the beat of the music isn't sync'ed to the beat of
the sequencer.
I would NOT do it that way again.
1) It means that I can't quantize parts
2) It means that I can't notate parts automatically
3) It means that I can't perform operations on sections denoted by
bars (like say "tranpose bars 5 thru 7")
4) Because the MIDI data doesn't correspond to things like "quarter
notes" the various ways to display track data end up putting
stuff on the screen that's difficult to relate to what you think
of in your head.
Wanna know how I would do things ideally? I'd have the drummer record
a track but NOT to a click track and use a device that's available to
turn what he plays into a tempo track.
Then, I'd either keep what he played or (more likely) have him
re-record it to a click track that's based on the tempo of his original
track.
> But playing drums along with a metronome is pretty hard to do and stay
> in sync for longer than a minute.
My experience is that some drummers have no problem with this, others
simply can't do it. It's almost like there's no middle ground.
I do know that conventional wisdom among drum instructors is that its
very valuable to practice BOTH with a metronome and (at other times)
without one.
|
64.473 | ..but what was his name? | BSS::SMITH_S | | Wed May 01 1996 21:18 | 3 |
| Listen to Death's "Symbolic". This is the tightest, most intricate
drumwork I've ever heard. There's a good drummer.
-ss
|
64.474 | | KDX200::COOPER | Heh heh - Not likely pal | Sun May 05 1996 13:47 | 18 |
| RE: db
Thanks - I knew if I commented, you'd pick up the ball
and run with it.
BTW - Pick up a copy of the new Cakewalk Pro v4 - It does "Groove"
quantize where I can record a guitar track (or anything) digitally,
and Cakewalk will pick up the tempo from the music and lock right
up. In addition to tempo grooves, it also diddles velocities and
stuff too. It's perfect for emoting via timing changes, etc...
Too slick.
RE: Shane
I do have a drum machine - It's called a human rhythm composer, and it
speeds up and slows down. :-)
|
64.475 | | EDWIN::HOOKER | | Mon May 06 1996 14:08 | 6 |
| Re: Coop
human rhythm machine eh ? well I suppose that's ok...so long
as you don't go making Rap or Disco music with it ;)
Shane, who can't stand that synth sound
|
64.476 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Dogbert's New Ruling Class: 100K | Mon May 06 1996 16:06 | 3 |
|
Hey!! Disco ROOLZ!!
|
64.477 | Am I understanding you correctly? | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | The moment is a masterpiece | Mon May 06 1996 16:11 | 30 |
| > BTW - Pick up a copy of the new Cakewalk Pro v4 - It does "Groove"
> quantize where I can record a guitar track (or anything) digitally,
> and Cakewalk will pick up the tempo from the music and lock right
> up.
Am I understanding this correctly?
Are you saying that you can play something totally out of tempo and
Cakewalk has the ability to figure what YOUR tempo was, and throw
out the original tempo so that the notes you played land on the beat?
Cause... my understanding of so-called "groove" functions was that
they were kinda like quantize except that instead of quantizing to
the beat, you could quantize one instrument to another.
For example, you can quantize the bass guitar track so that it always
locked into the bass drum for a really tight rhythm section.
Which of those two is it?
If it's that it can derive a tempo track from an arbitrary performance
my next question is:
Where can I get a copy!!!! ;-)
|
64.478 | Cakewalk systems in Waltham! | KDX200::COOPER | Heh heh - Not likely pal | Mon May 06 1996 20:06 | 14 |
|
the later... Here's the scoop:
jc plugs his guitar in and just plays something and records direct to
disk via your favorite WAVE editor. The tempo meanders.
Next, you open up CakePro and suck up the wave file, and prepare to
add a snare - but you screw it up. So, you tell CakePro to quantize
the midi snare to the WAVE you recorded earlier, and "presto", you
get a snare thats quantized to your meandering mess... (hence, my
original"groove"...
Pardon typing - I'm RAS'd in from a hotel with my laptop - bleck.
jc
|
64.479 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donnie Baseball Yankee HOFer!!! | Tue May 07 1996 11:13 | 7 |
|
Joe Elliot and his Girlfriend were both arrested for beating each
other up!
No ffffffffooling
|
64.480 | Heard it too | ICS::CLELAND | CCS Eastern Sites | Tue May 07 1996 12:39 | 5 |
| I heard that on WAAF this morning...
Originally she called the police to report Joe, but when the
police arrived, they found bruises on both of them, so they
arrested both of them.
|
64.482 | John, Paul, Ringo...ahem... | STRATA::LAMOTHE | A B B A | Tue May 07 1996 15:52 | 10 |
|
The drummer uses MIDI so he doesn't even have to drum at all....so
he can wave his feet and on hand in the air, it really doesn't
matter... and by all means...he's certainly Not
Paul Bonham...!
|
64.483 | | KDX200::CJ | | Tue May 07 1996 16:59 | 1 |
| Paul Bonham?
|
64.484 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Enjoy what you do | Tue May 07 1996 17:02 | 3 |
|
He must've meant Jason.
|
64.485 | He's not faking... | ICS::CLELAND | CCS Eastern Sites | Tue May 07 1996 19:09 | 29 |
| Rick Allen?
Just because he uses MIDI doesn't mean he's faking it...
He's using a combination of acoustic drums and trigger
pads, operated by his left foot. That's how he plays a
single stroke roll, with his right hand & left foot.
He is playing the drums, don't be fooled by the trigger
pads...
And Jason was fun to listen to, but he really doesn't play
anything like his father did. John Bonham redefined Rock
drumming, all with a 5-piece kit using one mounted Tom on
a 24 inch bass drum.
re .473
Tight, intricate drumming? Death? You can't be serious...
What about Rod Morgenstein, Billy Cobham, Lenny White, Bill
Bruford, Neil Peart, Chad Wackerman, Omar Hakim, Terry Bozio,
Carl Palmer, Trilok Gertu and about 500 other huge talents who
define the term "intricate"?
You want Intricate? Listen to Return to Forever, or find
any disc from Mahavishnu Orchestra.
Oops, forgot, this is the Def Leppard topic. Sorry about that...
|
64.486 | | HOZHED::FENNELL | Aisle or window seat? | Tue May 07 1996 19:54 | 10 |
| What about Don Brewer? You know the drummer in Grand Funk Railroad?
Man that
guy stinks.
I heard a comedian making fun of him once. He said he went to a GFR concert and
left when the blickas started. Blickas? You know - they occur in bad drum
solos.
tap tap tap blicka blicka blicka blicka boom crash
Tim
|
64.487 | Boom crack | ICS::CLELAND | CCS Eastern Sites | Wed May 08 1996 10:28 | 15 |
| Oh, and I forgot Simon Phillips!!!!
Listen to any recording with Simon, I look for a big rock
to crawl under. Especially that live recording of the Who
a couple years back. Simon is amazing...
Don Brewer was/is great, I have an old (er, um) piece of vinyl,
(um, it was new when I bought it) called Grand Funk Railrod
Live, recorded at Madison Square Garden. I drove my mom nuts
listening to the drum solo Don did on that recording.
And I love the intro to "We're an American Band", Don Brewer,
love the guy...
Sheesh I'm getting old...
|
64.488 | | HOZHED::FENNELL | Aisle or window seat? | Wed May 08 1996 14:08 | 9 |
| I think I have that album. The black one with Mark Farner going nuts on the
cover? Has Into the Sun as a whole side or something like that?
I always thought that was recorded in Atlanta. I guess because the review
inside talks about the Atlanta music festival.
My objection to Don Brewer was most of the stuff he does is pretty limp and
sounds like filler.
|
64.489 | Solo we can't hear you | ICS::CLELAND | CCS Eastern Sites | Wed May 08 1996 18:44 | 9 |
| Well, to keep Shawn from going batty, I'll stop with my
rat-hole replies, but I'll double-check the vinyl.
Don Brewer was a classic influence, growing up in the very
early 70's, I was listening to Climax Blues Band, Grand Funk,
and Deep Purple...
I promise Shawn, all future Grand Funk replies will go
under topic #652...
|
64.490 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Great baby! Delicious!! | Wed May 08 1996 18:48 | 9 |
|
Well, at least this discussion progressed between 2 different
drummers, which is sort of OK, even if 1 is non-HM and non-
Def Leppard.
But Slayer to Busch Gardens? That's bordering on illegal.
8^)
|
64.491 | | ARBEIT::DEMARSE | Enjoy being | Fri May 10 1996 18:14 | 13 |
| From the CNN website:
Def Leppard drummer charged with wife abuse
The one-armed drummer of the British rock band Def Leppard was
charged on Thursday with spousal battery for allegedly slamming his
wife's head against a restroom wall at Los Angeles International
Airport. The Los Angeles City Attorney's office said Richard Allen
would be formally charge on May 22 with abuse and false
imprisonment, for taking his wife against her will into the restroom.
Each charge is punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a $1,000
fine.
|
64.492 | He Should Lose Another Body_Unit | WMOIS::MAZURKA | Son_Of_Dig_It_Al | Sat May 11 1996 11:23 | 2 |
| And The Beat Goes_On..
|
64.493 | All in the family | ICS::CLELAND | CCS Eastern Sites | Mon May 13 1996 10:44 | 8 |
| That incident actually happened awhile back, I think in
1995, he was never formally charged.
I wonder if the incident with Joe Elliot & his girlfriend
prompted the DA to bring charges against Rick.
Meaning, they just might end up formally charging Joe as
well.
|
64.494 | Women should never be beaten though! | POLAR::RENAUDP | WOW! I can hear my brain! | Tue May 14 1996 19:34 | 4 |
| At least Rick's girlfriend only got HALF the beating Joe's girl did! 8)
Paully
|
64.495 | hilarious Paully...*)) | KDCA03::CDCUP_TORREN | Gotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burn | Wed May 15 1996 14:00 | 1 |
|
|
64.496 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Career Opportunity Week at DEC | Fri May 17 1996 19:03 | 15 |
|
Has anyone bought/heard "Slang" yet?
After 2 listens it's not bad, I guess. I don't have "Hysteria"
or "Adrenalize" yet [but the latter was just paid for and is on
the way to me via mail], so I can't compare this to anything
newer than "Pyromania". No comparison there, but I didn't expect
there to be so I'm not disappointed in that aspect.
The BICTRM [Ballads In Comparison To Real Music] ratio isn't as
bad as I thought it'd be [I'll have to listen again to see what
the actual ratio is], and there are a few standouts that deserve
repeated listenings.
|
64.497 | RE: "SLANG" | POLAR::DASILVA | | Fri May 17 1996 23:38 | 14 |
|
I bought it on the 15th. After a few listens I have to say that it is
what I was expecting. I heard interviews with them and they said it
was going to be more raw. Some songs are but alot of them still some
Hysteria-ish. I like the fact that they have a lot of different styles
in the songs, from almost industrial-like to their regular sound. It's
a good variety. I'm not sure how much Vivian Campbell had to do with
the sound style of the album but it sure is different in some aspects.
i'm looking forward to seeing them in concert just to see and hear what
it's like live.
Looking forward to other comments,
Frank.
|
64.498 | they did sound alright though | POLAR::RENAUDP | WOW! I can hear my brain! | Fri May 17 1996 23:59 | 5 |
| Well Frank, you just missed seeing them live....they were on Leno last
night.
Paully
|
64.499 | Nothing New To Me!! | POLAR::DASILVA | | Sat May 18 1996 23:41 | 5 |
| IT FIGURES, when there there is something good on I have to work.
Thanks anyways Paully.
Frank.
|
64.500 | | CADSYS::FENNELL | Yuri! quit drumming on packages | Sun May 19 1996 10:40 | 3 |
| I'm surpised they sounded good. Everything I've heard says this band either
plays pre-recorded concerts (well backup and fills..) or just stinks and plays
out of tune.
|
64.501 | Awsome Live!!! | POLAR::DASILVA | | Thu May 23 1996 03:17 | 7 |
| Well, on the VAULT video, there is a section that shows them playing
live unplugged in a Sheffield bar. Their back-ups are amazing. Very
well harmonized. I'm sure that they must use some kind of voice
enhancement in their live shows, but then again, who hasn't. It's
pretty much a necessity nowadays with a schedule that these bands have.
Frank.
|
64.502 | go home | THEMAX::EPPERSON | SUPERABOUND | Thu May 23 1996 03:19 | 1 |
| Def Leppard sucks very badly.
|
64.503 | If you say Ace of Bass I'm outta here! | POLAR::TYSICK | Knight of the Soundtable | Thu May 23 1996 11:34 | 4 |
| RE: .502
I haven't read one note yet in which you liked a band....what the
"H" do you listen to anyways? [^8=
|
64.504 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | | Thu May 23 1996 12:18 | 1 |
| The Leps have been shite since Hign N Dry!
|
64.505 | | THEMAX::E_WALKER | | Thu May 23 1996 19:47 | 2 |
| Def Leppard does suck. Always has. You people ought to be ashamed
of yourselves.
|
64.506 | | SUBPAC::GOLDIE | Resident Alien | Thu May 23 1996 20:56 | 6 |
|
actually,they've sucked since Pyromania.The first 3 albums are
excellant!
Ian
|
64.507 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Crazy Cooter comin' atcha!! | Thu May 23 1996 21:07 | 4 |
|
Yeah, I loved "Pyromania". The 1st 2 are OK, and I guess deserve
another listen once I finish listening to my "new purchases" pile.
|
64.508 | | POLAR::DASILVA | | Thu May 23 1996 22:59 | 4 |
| Why bother with this note if you have no interest in this band?!!!!
Frank
|
64.509 | | THEMAX::EPPERSON | SUPERABOUND | Thu May 23 1996 23:07 | 5 |
| Beleive me buddy, If these notes didn`t come up automatically You would
never see me in Def Lepard, Van Halen, or any of that other crap you
people get into.
|
64.510 | | POLAR::LYLE | The cheese slid off my cracker | Fri May 24 1996 01:46 | 4 |
|
<----- ever hear of 'next unseen'????
use it sometime.
|
64.511 | stop living in the 80`s | THEMAX::EPPERSON | SUPERABOUND | Fri May 24 1996 01:51 | 6 |
| If you would quit putting notes in this topic maybe I wouldn`t be so
tempted to rag on you. I have a right to my opinion, and I can`t
understand why people would listen to Def Lepard when there is so much
good music out there.
|
64.512 | | THEMAX::VASQUEZ | | Fri May 24 1996 01:53 | 4 |
| AMEN!
-BG
|
64.513 | | POLAR::LYLE | The cheese slid off my cracker | Fri May 24 1996 02:09 | 17 |
|
re: .511
Dude. Take a relaxation pill will ya.
Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinons, but is it really
necessary to insult someone cuz they like a certain band?
There are a great many bands in this notefile that suck. Some that
don't and some I've never heard of and thanks to a few people in here,
I have been introduced to some new bands in which I enjoy listening to.
Dream Theater being one of them. (or do they suck in you opinon too?)
So ok, tell us what you think of bands, whether you like 'em or not,
but why go on and say that whoever likes them is stupid??
Dave
|
64.514 | DT sucks too | THEMAX::EPPERSON | SUPERABOUND | Fri May 24 1996 02:11 | 2 |
| I don`t remember calling anyone anything.
|
64.515 | | THEMAX::VASQUEZ | | Fri May 24 1996 02:12 | 5 |
| The only reason someone would think that Dream Theater sucks would
be that they are jealous of there playing ability.
-BG
|
64.516 | check it out | THEMAX::SMITH_S | | Fri May 24 1996 02:13 | 4 |
| re -2
If you like DT you'll love Cannibal Corpse.
-ss
|
64.517 | Excuse me, we need materials! | THEMAX::SMITH_S | | Fri May 24 1996 02:14 | 1 |
|
|
64.518 | | THEMAX::EPPERSON | SUPERABOUND | Fri May 24 1996 02:15 | 3 |
| Technical playing don`t always make a band good. Although DT ain`t the
worst band I ever heard, I don`t get into theur music. I guess I just
said that they suck to be a smart a$$.
|
64.519 | | THEMAX::VASQUEZ | | Fri May 24 1996 02:15 | 4 |
| so ask Mike
-BG
|
64.520 | | THEMAX::VASQUEZ | | Fri May 24 1996 02:17 | 5 |
| That is true, but even if you don't like their style of music you
can still agree that they can play really well.
-BG
|
64.521 | | MFGFIN::HUDSON_MI | Where am I | Fri May 24 1996 02:17 | 5 |
|
In that case we'll be line-down all night!!
Mike
|
64.522 | | THEMAX::EPPERSON | SUPERABOUND | Fri May 24 1996 02:18 | 1 |
| Agreed, they can play.
|
64.523 | | THEMAX::VASQUEZ | | Fri May 24 1996 02:18 | 1 |
| I'm new, I can get away with it.
|
64.524 | | THEMAX::E_WALKER | | Fri May 24 1996 03:08 | 2 |
| The main point of this arguement is that we all agree:: Def
Leppard sucks. Anyone who likes Def Leppard also sucks.
|
64.525 | | THEMAX::VASQUEZ | | Fri May 24 1996 03:09 | 2 |
| Oh give it up!
-BG
|
64.526 | sammy says | THEMAX::EPPERSON | themindcloudhaslifted | Fri May 24 1996 03:10 | 1 |
| I think he is referring to you LYLE.
|
64.527 | | POLAR::LYLE | The cheese slid off my cracker | Fri May 24 1996 03:11 | 3 |
|
I think so too, however I don't like Def Leppard.
|
64.528 | | THEMAX::VASQUEZ | | Fri May 24 1996 03:12 | 1 |
| so what
|
64.529 | It's pretty close | THEMAX::SMITH_S | | Fri May 24 1996 03:13 | 2 |
| but do they suck worse than abba
|
64.530 | | THEMAX::EPPERSON | themindcloudhaslifted | Fri May 24 1996 03:14 | 1 |
| I think it is a tie.
|
64.531 | Take your pick! [^:= | POLAR::TYSICK | Knight of the Soundtable | Fri May 24 1996 11:23 | 5 |
| RE: THEMAX::EPPERSON & ::E_WALKER
The rocks in your head could fill the holes in his!
And no I'm not a rebelling Def Lep fan...
|