Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    
    eh... they're okay.  sort of reminds me of mr. bungle only a bit more
    listenable.
    

    I'm Guessin that you Wouldn't like em k/.
    I Saw them open for Pantera and they were Loud_Murky_A_Tad_Satanic_With
    _Touches_Of_Phyco_Delica..
    
       Crazy_I_Like_Em_Al

    MORE listenable the Mr Bungle?   I guess that means I won't be
    listening to Mr. Bungle!  
    
    The CD I won in the drawing at the Moose Lodge was White Zombie's.
    I thought it was pretty bad.  Mainly the vocals....  Kinda sounded like
    this "Uhguhggrrr rnghuhguhg  ghguhgg ghguuhggr rraarttkkk zysdfihgghj
    wyrzknskuioty bgbgfvxxqwy"
    
    |KS|
    

    I thought for sure we had a discussion on these guys in here before,
    but I can't find it now.  Oh well.  There was some discussion of them
    in RADIO_RADIO awhile back.
    
    gh

Psychedelic metal is probably the best way to describe them. They don't
totally s*ck, but I wasn't that impressed either (which is why I gave
it away at the HM party...)

alan

    I only heard that one tune (the one Wpose had as a p_n when he was 
    going out with Pril), but it never did anything for me -- I
    always shoved a tape in when it came on AAF!

    As far as Psychedelic metal goes, the group Trouble's latest album is
    kinda psychedelic and definately metal!  The album's called Manic
    Frustration, and I'm surprised nobody else in here has picked it up, or
    commented on it.   Sounds just like a cross between old Zeppelin and
    Black Sabbath!  50/50 right down the middle!
    
    And they're a Christian band!  (at least that's what /prc claimed)
    
    |KS|

    Christian band!!??  I haven't heard anything on them in the Christian
    market... 
    
                                         stig 

    Paul,
    
    this was Pete we're talkin about here...

    Yeah, I tended not to believe him either....
    
    One line off their latest goes "Hell is better, I confess".   Not
    too chritian sounding eh?
    
    one of their albums is called Psalm 9.  maybe Mike can tell us
    (briefly) what Psalm 9 is all about?
    
    |KS|
    

    No,the legendary Lord of Metal Thunder,(er,Pete to his friends),is
    correct.
    
    If you read their interviews,they confirm this. Also,i`ve read lyrics
    from their album "The Skull",and they definitely portray christian
    leanings,albeit in a subtle way.
    
    So there you go.
    
    

    basically just talks about the judgement of the wicked...
    
9:1  I will praise thee, O LORD, with my whole heart; I will shew forth all thy
 marvellous works.

9:2  I will be glad and rejoice in thee: I will sing praise to thy name, O thou
 most High.

9:3  When mine enemies are turned back, they shall fall and perish at thy
 presence.

9:4  For thou hast maintained my right and my cause; thou satest in the throne
 judging right.

9:5  Thou hast rebuked the heathen, thou hast destroyed the wicked, thou hast
 put out their name for ever and ever.

9:6  O thou enemy, destructions are come to a perpetual end: and thou hast
 destroyed cities; their memorial is perished with them.

9:7  But the LORD shall endure for ever: he hath prepared his throne for
 judgment.

9:8  And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment
 to the people in uprightness.

9:9  The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of
 trouble.

9:10  And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, LORD,
 hast not forsaken them that seek thee.

9:11  Sing praises to the LORD, which dwelleth in Zion: declare among the
 people his doings.

9:12  When he maketh inquisition for blood, he remembereth them: he forgetteth
 not the cry of the humble.

9:13  Have mercy upon me, O LORD; consider my trouble which I suffer of them
 that hate me, thou that liftest me up from the gates of death:

9:14  That I may shew forth all thy praise in the gates of the daughter of
 Zion: I will rejoice in thy salvation.

9:15  The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which
 they hid is their own foot taken.

9:16  The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is
 snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.

9:17  The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget
 God.

9:18  For the needy shall not alway be forgotten: the expectation of the poor
 shall not perish for ever.

9:19  Arise, O LORD; let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy
 sight.

9:20  Put them in fear, O LORD: that the nations may know themselves to be but
 men. Selah.

    ...well i'm glad you decided to be brief with that info mikey....;')
    ......let's shoot ken for asking...in fact lets just shoot him on g.p.
    ...yes i went to the show...they were interesting.....i have no idea
    how to categorize the music except to say that it's very heavy....
    the place was mobbed...wall to wall.. so apparently there are alot of
    people out there that like them................/k

    
    
                They are having a show Feb 27 in Colo. Springs for anyone
      interested. Tickets are 17.50 and it will sell-out.
    
    
                                      Allready got mine though;^)
    
                             Jeffy

    
    Anyone heard White Zombie's rendition of Black Sabbath's
    "Children of the Grave"?  Caught it in a threebee at
    3:00 on WAAF yesterday.
    
    I like White Zombie, they get me all fired up when I hear
    their stuff.  I had to restrain myself from destroying 
    the cockpit in my car while this cover hit the airwaves.
    
    A simple, straight ahead rocker here folks.  Check out
    this guy's voice in this one.  My God.
    
    
    Enjoy!
    Kev --
    

    
    I don't know if anyone pointed this out yet but the singer is from
    Framingham.

    
    mike zombie is from haverhill.
    
    i heard this thing.  blah!!
    
    

    >>    mike zombie is from haverhill.
    
    	Just a minor nit.  It's rob zombie........
                           
    				Later 
    				    Jim

    
    really?  oops...  :').  well he's from haverhill too then ....  :').
    
    

    
    New WZ disc out, anybody snagged it yet?
    
    Kev --
    

    	I just picked it up, and I'm listening as I write (courtesy of home
    office program).
    
    	On the first song at least, vocals seem the same, which I consider
    ed a weak point in their previuos release. I liked the music very much,
    but the vocals kind of seemed the same after 3-4 songs. 
    
    	On this new CD, the 1st song has a definitely different tempo, more
    catchy than heavy metal. 
    
    	I'm no musician and hence can't really tell the difference in
    drummers, so if you are asking about that, better ask someone else.
    
    	If these guys picked just a bit more speed, I think they would be
    awesome, but that's just my opinion...
    
    Carlos

    	I haven't got the new one yet, but I found the first one excellent,
    and they had a cool tune on the AirHeads soundtrack that was pretty
    good as well.
    
    	Did they get a new drummer? 
    
    Bobby T

    	Well....
    
    	After finishing up this one I can say this CD is about 1/3 of what
    the Sexorcisto CD. Definitely not heavy Metal to me.. 
    
    	I was expecting this guys would have turned nastier, heavier, etc
    etc with all the press the CD received, but this is kind of a funky CD.
    Like I said before, vocals are pretty much the same, but if at least
    the songs would have been heavier.
    
    	Oh, well, they are not Pantera...
    
    	I also picked up a CD from a band called PRO-PAIN, and what a diffe
    rence vocals make. The songs are not as heavy as other bands, but the
    singing makes the whole difference!
    
    	Carlos

>>    	After finishing up this one I can say this CD is about 1/3 of what
>>    the Sexorcisto CD. Definitely not heavy Metal to me.. 

     well, i must disagree with you... after snagging this cd thursday
     night it never left my cd player all weekend during an easter trip
     to western ny.  i think that the music *is* heavier, the bass lines
     from sean really pound, and coupled with the new drummer the rhythms
     could knock down a house.  a few of the tunes are intensely sped up
     over anything on la sexorcisto... the first song on the disc being
     a prime example.  (sorry for not naming any song names, but i don't
     have the case in front of me).  and finally on this album the vocals
     *do* change from song to song.  you can still tell it's rob's voice
     but he is definitely using some fx on a vox box on a handful of the
     tunes... so much so that i had to give a song on Z-ROCK a second
     listen last weekend when i first heard the first single.  the only
     fault that i find with the new album is that i have a feeling that
     some of the drumming may be machined... some songs are kinda techno
     but in a shredding kinda of way.  probably something to do with the
     transition to a new drummer.

     i liked la sexorcisto a lot... but compared to this new one, i feel
     that sexorcisto was very consistent... with songs sounding too much
     the same.  but after listening to the new one, i feel comfortable
     with looking at sexorcisto, musically, as a stepping stone.

     keep in mind this is all my own opinion.  your mileage may vary...

     /brian

    
    I like "More Human than Human" -- I should buy this if it's more like
    /brian said rather than their first.
    
    - Sean

    
    	I looked at this album yesterday, and I looked at "The Golden Age
    	of Wireless" also.
    
    	Sorry Rob Z., Dolby won.  8^)
    

    	Re .27
    
    	Brian:
    
    	According to Jay Juenger, "..This record's a lot less heavy metal
    and a lot more wide open. That's a natulra progression......"
    
    	I am starting to learn to live with this CD. I like the first song,
    but I still think it goes downhill too fast.
    
    	Has anyone heard their previuos CD?
    
    	Carlos 
    

    I went to a WZ concert here in Dallas a few years ago and the pit
    wasn't all that special.  It couldn't have been cuz I was right up
    front and didn't get massacred.

    I seen Zombie Feb 27 up in Denver and they raged the pit was a blast!
 I'm going tommarrow to see them again hoping the pit will be a blast!
    Will give a review of the show if anybody is interested.  By the way
    Astro-Creep 2000 is a great album I liked much better than La
    sexercisto.
     

    Both albums are equally rulin' IMO.
    
    If you DON'T give us a review, you will not have served your purpose in
    life, Mr. Trolinder.

	The problems with pit's are kid's.  That's not meant in a grumpy old
	man way, it's meant in an experience way.  I'm a pit master, I give 
	mean hits when necessary, but basically I just like to slam.  I don't
	like to fight in the pit, what's with this judo/karate shit in the
	pit, go put on some gloves, and then I'll really nail ya!!!

	/Cap'n Quad

    
    
    
    I was at a BCG show at Local 186 in Boston.. There were 2 chicks in the
    pit doing face high round-house kicks.. One guy that I knew went up to 
    them to tell them to least keep the feet down around chest level, they
    beat the sh*t outta him.. was pretty entertaining..
    
    I myself enjoy a good pit (Pantera at the Wallice Civic Center was
    INSANE!!) but I don't enjoy the assholes that are there just looking 
    for one thing, a fight.. 
    
    Whit-

    
    re-1
    
    hhahahaha@
    
    don't be messing with mosh pit wimmen! 8)
    
    
    							ian

       Well I'm off to see The Zombie the wonderful Zombie of OZ :}
        Off to mosh it up tonite.  Will give review of the show tommarrow
    oh yeah Filter is the opening band so it should be a killer concert.
    Talk to you all later!
    
    
                            MOSH!
                                                  TRL
                                                 "The Pit Fiend"
                                                     

      Well I'm back from the show bruised and sore.  The show was a rager
    I wasn't too impressed with Filter but when Zombie hit the stage  all
    HELL broke loose the pit was pretty brutal but all in all it was a
    blast.  Zombie sounded excellent and the stage show was wild(from what
    I seen inbetween moshing and crowd surfing...Hang ten dude).  During
    the middle of the show they left the stage and on the big screenin back
    they showed some of the media sh*t that they have been getting about
    how evil they are and all that crap.  Then cruicfied clowns dropped
    down from above and they hit the stage again.  Definatly a good moshing
    show. When I left the show a little bloody and alot bruised ( Black eye
    and a bruise on my back about the size of a boot I felt great.  Great
    show Great Pit.  A Definate must see for any hard core thrasher.
    
    
    
                                       TRL
                                     "The Pit Fiend" 

    Well, I don't consider myself a "hard core thrasher" anymore but I'd 
    like to see them on this tour when they come to Big D.  The media part
    sounds pretty entertaining anyway...
    
    How did they sound?  I've heard people tell me they sound like sh*t
    live, but I thought they sounded killer.  But back then I was such a 
    huge fan that they could do no wrong, so my opinion is most definitely 
    biased.  Did they play any old stuff, or mostly new or what??
    
    Minus the blood and bruises, I could have a pretty good time.  ;) 
    
    'pril

    They played quite a variety of old and new,  I thought they sounded
    great.  But then again I am a huge fan so I might be a little biased. 
    There was a lot of neutral spots on they floor were the people who
    weren't into moshing could see the show w/o blood and bruises. 
    Honestly, anybody who likes Zombie would have a good time at the show, 
    Me however I love to MOSH so I get into that aspect.  I did have
    friends who stayed in their seats through out the show and they enjoyed
    it and say a lot more of the stage show then I did and they said it was
    quite entertaining.  There were a lot of fireworks explosions etc. etc.
    to revise :  White Zombie is a definate show for any fan or even
    anybody who likes thier music.  They got it all.  
    

	I got a deal, all of you who pay upwards of $30.00 a seat to mosh can
	come over to my house for 10.00 a head and I'll DJ for you.  Then
	you can save 20 bucks on a show that you never saw anyway %^).  I've
	can handle a pit of about 100 people.  I'll even muddy it up so
	it will be that much more exciting...sort of like a loolapaloser (sic)

	/Cap'n Caveman

    Sorry, but i just don't think it would be the same,  maybe if you sold
    beer. :^}
    

	Missed Point:


		Are the cumulative talents involved such that the only value to
	the music is slammin'?   Shit, I thought that's what club bands at 
	$3.00 per were for.  Don't tell me, the better the group, the better
	the slam? %^) 

    I have a question.  When did it become usual and customary for people
    to beat the sh*t out of each other in mosh pits?  Used to, you just
    pushed and shoved, no hitting or kicking was allowed!!!  Now you see
    people swinging and jumping all over each other....WTF?  In my opinion,
    this ain't moshing, it's fighting which are two completely different
    things.

    I agree the stupid a**holes that go into pits to fight are ruining the
    fun of it.  Although I have seen these people get turned on and really
    get thier as*es kicked by the rest of the crowd.  You can't go into a
    pit to fight, pits are for moshing and getting into the music.  And to
    reply to the other commet the music has to be good otherwise I can't
    get into the groove of the pit.  It's like a dance to me if the music
    isn't your style or to your liking you can't get into the groove.  Know
    what I mean?  I mosh to have fun, release some stress and to get into
    the music not to fight.  If the music sux  I can't enjoy myself.  It's
    there to have fun and thats it.  True you might come out a little beat
    up but if there was no one really fighting it's just part of the
    hazzards.  There are pit rules and if you follow them everyone in the
    pit will have a good time.
    
    
    
    
                                               "The Pit Fiend"
    

    WHOA! $15.00 dollars a head with all the beer I can drink and
    MOSHING!?!!?!?!?  I'm there dude!  Better have a lot of Pantera,
    Slayer, and Zombie.(just to name a few)   Never to defy...MOSH OR
    DIE! :^} 
    
    
                                                 Pit Fiend

    
    	What was the name of their 2nd album?
    
    	I just picked up "Supersexy Swingin' Sounds" the other day,
    	and it's quite different from "La Sexorcisto".  I just went
    	through all the replies here, and someone mentioned that
    	they sounded sort of techno.  Well, they sound VERY techno
    	now ... the new 1 is mostly techno/industrial.
    
    	"More Human than Human" is also on this 1 ... I guess they
    	must have re-recorded it or something.  Can't verify that,
    	though, since I don't have the 2nd album.
    

    
    Shawn, I thought "Supersexy" was an *entire* album of dance remixes.
    A bunch of famous techno-mixers (don't ask me the names) get together
    and do the Studio 54 House Rave Remixx sort of thang to their old
    tunes.  The ad I saw made it seem that way, anyway, but it wasn't 
    clear - are you saying there are actually new songs on this?
    
    - Sean

    
    	Clivilles and Cole?  Nah, didn't think so.  8^)
    
    	Anyways, I guess it's possible, but I don't remember hearing
    	anything off of "La Sexorcisto", like "Thunder Kiss", etc.,
    	and I would have expected to.
    
    	But like I said, I don't have the 2nd album so I don't even
    	know what songs are on it.  At least, I don't think I have
    	the 2nd album.  8^)  Can someone name some of the more pop-
    	ular songs to see if I recognize them?
    

    More Human...
    Devil Man
    Electric Head
    
    Astro Creep: 2000 is the title.
                 
    Man, if you don't have this one, you need to get it.  It's better than 
    La Sexorcisto, although I didn't used to think that...
    
    p.s. (yes it is a bunch of remixes from what I hear.  There's one they
    play on the radio a lot called "boogy man" I think, it's real groovy!

    
    	Oh yeah, I was going to comment on "Boogie Man", and I was pretty
    	sure that that was a cover of someone else's song, yes?
    

    No idea, just thought it were cool.

    
    	You're gonna laugh.
    
    	I warn you NOT to continue if you're squeamish ...
    
    
    
    	... "I'm Your Boogie Man" - K.C. and the Sunshine Band
    

    
    According to the comercials on t.v., this 'new' CD is a complete
    're-mix' of Astro-Creep, with the K.C. tune thrown in and a song or two
    left out.
    
    Dave
    

    Ooooh, how creative.

    
    KC roolz.
    
    - Sean

    <-----  Good Gawd!
    
    I hope you mean the Cheifs or the Royals?   [^8=

    
    	"Do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight."
    

    I wanna- put on my my my my boogie shoes... and boogie with you!

    
    Please don't gooooooooooo owww oooooooooo
    
    Please don't go
    

    
    	I forgot about that song ... thanks!!
    
    	That's even better than "Born Again" by Billy Preston and
    	Sereeta [I know that's spelled wrong, but ask me if I care
    	8^)].
    

    
    at last I got to see WhiteZombie on monday and was impressed.I liked
    them a lot.The tickets I got ended up being about 30 feet from the
    stage and was on the right....so I got an excellant view of the bass
    player(green hair and all)The sound wasn't that great but I enjoyed
    myself! 8)
    
    
    the between bands entertainment was bizarre to the say the
    least....plus the tattood,pierced freak were in full turn out!
    
    						Ian

    
    So Ian, are you saying Sean is cute?!  I thought she looked cute on
    MTV's halloween bash awhile back when WZ/Primus/others were there. She
    had on red short shorts, red top, devils horns , etc....she looked
    rather nice! ;-)
    
    

    I got to hear a little of that new "Super-sexy" stuff last night at the
    local watering hole....and I thought it was cool $#!+!!!   The DJ
    should have played more but ended up putting the Crow : City of Angels
    soundtrack on...that was pretty cool to...especially "Hole's" new tune!
    
    	J

    The Song HOLE does is A Cover Of A FleetWood_Mac Song
    
    
       Crazy_Pick_Up_The_Pieces_And_Go_Home_Al

    I like that tune !

    The "song" Hole or the "band" Hole???
    
    8)

    ahemm....
    
    
    GOLD DUST WOMAN!
    

    I was poking fun at Al.  8)
    
    I like that tune too!!

    And You Dear_Girl,Didn't Quote What_Note_ya_Got.
    
    
    
      Crazy_Cleanin_Up_Al