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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Thu May 05 1988
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19.0. "Kiss" by BUSY::SLABOUNTY (Lookatthehogansonher!!) Mon Oct 05 1992 10:26

    
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19.1SUBURB::DALLISONWe want a shrubbury!!!!Tue Sep 27 1988 09:3838
    
    I saw Kiss on Saturday night.  "Kings Of The Sun" opened for them.
    They sounded like a combination of AC/DC and Big Country.  The lead
    singer/rythem guitarist looked just like Adrian Vandenburg, the
    lead guitarist looked like Jimmy Page, the drummer and bassist both
    looked like p*****.                   
                                          
    Then Kiss came on with the words "ALRIGHT LONDON!!!!!" booming from
    the speaker stacks, and did an okay show.  I was unlucky, I had 
    terrible seats on Friday, and couldn't really enjoy the show coz
    there were kids who were drinking too much and shouting and spitting
    but. . . .
                                             
                                          
    I went again the FOLLOWING night, and had fourth row from the front,
    centre.
    
    Kings of the Sun still sucked, and they lead "singer" was an arogant
    sombitch.  they did this track called "Black Leather" and he started
    to strip.  All he had on was his boots and leather pants, and he
    started to undo them (I thought pass me the bucket), he then whiped
    down his pants and bent over.....to reveal a pair of Union Jack
    boxer shorts.....what a pratt!! he then spen the rest of the show
    trying to do them back up again !!!!  
          
    Kiss- F****** brilliant !!!!!! the energy of the band amazed
    me, but Paul Stanley was an arogant son-of-a-bitch, and I nearly
    shot the bugger when he broke a luverly looking guitar (It was either
    a KRAMER or a HAMER - NOT a BC RICH).    
                                             
    They played all the great stuff like Strutter, Tears are falling,
    Lick it Up, Right between the eyes, Bang Bang You, Cold Gin, heavens
    on fire, reason to live, crazy nights, no no no (I actually got
    to see Bruce Kulicks tapping solo - always wanted to see it live),
    and lots more that I can't remember.     
                                             
    My ears still haven't returned to normal.                                
    -Tony                                    
19.2KISS-EDINBURGH-02 OCT 88HAGGIS::IRVINEGARFIELD FOREVERTue Oct 04 1988 14:0019
    I HAVE JUST SEEN KISS FOR THE FIRST TIME!
    Actually it's the first time I have had the opertunity to see them
    when they have been in the U.K. For various reasons.
    
    	I thought the Gig was definatly on the good side of great. None
    of this *P*O*P* rubbish (sorry about the language moderator) that
    they have been putting out lately, virtually the whole gig consisted
    of thier earlier material. It was great.
    
    	To me the highlight of the gig was definatly Eric Carr's drum
    solo - and - the disappointment was Bruce's solo (talk about boring!).
    
    
    		Hope I ain't upset too many of you U.S. Metalheads.
    
    	Hit em hard! Where it hurts!
    
    
    				BONZO
19.3he wasn't like this 10 years agoBSS::BLAZEKDancing with My SelfThu Nov 17 1988 21:157
    	I was surprised at how effeminate Paul Stanley was last
    	night.  Like someone else said, it was almost disturbing
    	to watch.  I thought I'd scream if he pursed his lips one
    	more time.  So I screamed.  And then I turned off MTV.
    
    						Carla
    
19.4WILVAX::BOURQUEIrocZ B L A C K M I R A G E DrumsTue Nov 29 1988 09:3813
    Has anyone checked out the New Kiss thats out,
    I bought it, All it is, is Digital Remixes of the old tunes some
    make a 100% Difference theres ...
    Dertoit Rock city
    Love Gun
    I was made for lovin you
    Rock-n-Roll all night
    Shout it out loud
    Beth-(Sung by Eric Carr)Really cant tell the difference between
                            him and Peter Criss.
    NEW Take the "X" out of Sex...Its ok,nothing great.
    and one more, not sure of the name??
                                               Dr. Tama
19.556860::GALLANTFlaming youth will set the world on fireFri Dec 30 1988 15:4525
    
    
    	Well, my boyfriend went out and bought Smashes, Thrashes,
    	and Hits.  It's not bad, in fact, it's good if you're 
    	looking for a "Greatest Hits" type album.  Eric Carr
    	does a pretty good job at singing Beth, although no one
    	can duplicate the original Peter Criss!!
    
    	Anyways.  I can't think of all the tracks, but some of 
    	them are....
    
    	Shout it out Loud
    	Beth (Eric Carr vocals)
    	Rock'n'Roll All Night
    	Detroit Rock City
    	Heaven's on Fire
    	Deuce 
    	Strutter
    
    	Well, there's 7 anyways.  There's 15 tracks in all, and
    	I can't remember what they are.  (I know the songs, but
    	not the names, y'know?)
    
    	Tig~~
    
19.6-MORE-26922::BOURQUEIm lookin through,A hole in the skyFri Dec 30 1988 15:546
    I like the Digital remix on the other songs,,,for example
    there is also added vocal parts on "Shout it out Loud"
    other songs on the Lp Include,
    "Love Gun"  "I was made for loving you"  "Take the X out of sex"
    
    jim...tama
19.7HOW MANY ALBUMS?RDGENG::BAUGHWed Mar 22 1989 15:476
    HIi Kiss fans..... can anybody tell in total how many albums Kiss
    have realesed!!!
    
                            RoCk Of
                                 AgEs...
                                 
19.8ROSBIF::PHILIPPASssllluuuuuurrrrpppp! ;^PWed Mar 22 1989 16:1328
    Well, I've got 23 of there albums.  Here's a few I can remember:
    
    Killers
    Lick it up
    Kiss
    Rock n' Roll over
    Destroyer
    Dynasty
    Animalize
    Crazy Crazy nights
    Hotter than hell
    Love Gun
    Alive
    Alive II
    Platinum
    Creatures of the night
    Dressed to kill
    Paul Stanley - solo
    Gene Simmons - solo
    Peter Criss - solo
    Ace Frehley - solo
    
    Sorry, can't think of any more!
    
    ;^)
    
    Flip
    
19.9ROSBIF::PHILIPPASssllluuuuuurrrrpppp! ;^PThu Mar 23 1989 15:5210
    Well, I've liked KISS since I was 12 (9-years ago), that was when
    Creatures of the night came out!!!  IMO that was the last good album
    they put out - they've been going down hill (very steeply) ever
    since then!
    
    Best albums:	Dressed to Kill
    			Rock n' Roll Over
    			Hotter than Hell.
    
    Flip
19.10Guess we don't have any KISS fans here!!!MARKER::BUCKLEYPlay that funky music...Mon Oct 30 1989 18:157
    OKO, this is stupid!!!
    
    Rock n Roll All Nite ***** IS ***** on Dressed to Kill.  It was then
    released on Kiss Alive (1), which was the first 3 albums done live.
    Rock n Roll Over was the 2nd studio album after Kiss Alive (Destroyer
    was the first one), and songs from that were featured on Kiss Alive II.
    Please make a note of this! 
19.11CHEFS::DALLISONScreaming blues-o-maniaTue Oct 31 1989 13:129
    
    FWIW...         
    
    I actually like "X in Sex".
                           
    Its totally different to old Kiss but you gotta consider that they
    catering for a totally different auidiance.
    
    Just my opinion.
19.12ASAHI::COOPERBuilt to BLAST !Tue Oct 31 1989 13:525
    The only Kiss tune I *ever* liked was Tears Are Fallin'...Mainly
    cuzI liked the tear on the guit string deal in the vid...
    
    jc (Who was refering to Dressed To Kill.  No lead break.)
                                      
19.13IOSG::PERKINSHow to be a complete & utter b*stard!Wed Nov 01 1989 09:125
    
    Kiss are preparing for a Worlkd tour beginning early 1990.  rumour has
    that they will kick off in the UK.
    
    flip
19.14Let me go, Rock and RollHYEND::MANDILEJust Do It.Mon Nov 27 1989 20:396
    
    I heard that for the new Kiss tour they are going to wear make-up
    again, has anybody else heard this??
    
    Diehard KISS fan since 1976,
    Albert 
19.15USCTR1::KGALLANTPink elephants on parade...Tue Nov 28 1989 01:349
    
    
    	I remember seeing on TV somewhere that Kiss had been getting
    	tons of mail asking when they were going to put the make-up
    	back on, but to my understanding they were only putting it on
    	for their next video off "Hide Your Heart" (or whatever the
    	most recent album is)
    
    	Tigga~~~
19.16IOSG::PERKINSBreaking down the DOORS of perceptionWed Nov 29 1989 15:2610
KISS IN MAKE-UP AGAIN!!!

The story according to Kerrang!

Gene and Paul have reverted back to wearing make-up for a gig at Gazzari's, LA.
The stunt was ONLY for a video shoot to accompany their forthcoming "Rise to it"
single.

    Flip
    
19.17MILKWY::SLABOUNTYI want my Heavy_Metal.Tue Jan 09 1990 14:2211
    
    	Could someone list their more popular songs, and who does
    	the vocals?
    
    	Like:
    
    	"Black Diamond" - Gene?
    	"Cold Gin" - Ace, I believe
    
    							GTI
    
19.18another country heard from...PARITY::RANDERSONFri Jan 19 1990 20:0514
    I've seen KISS live twice (in my younger days, I'll have to admit).
    Once with Peter Criss and once with Eric Carr.  Both times Paul sang
    the intro and either Peter or Eric sang the main song.  Also, saw 
    them on MTV concerts a couple of times and again, Carr sang the main
    verses.  I gave my "KISS Alive" tape to a nephew years ago but I do
    remember a difference between the voices during the song.  When Criss
    sings on this song he is screaming so he can easily be confused with
    sounding like Paul.  I think Paul comes back in again for the last
    verse.  This probably adds to the confusion.
    
    
    					the bomb
    
    
19.19A 6-foot, Hot look, All American man!HYEND::MANDILEJust Do It.Tue Jan 23 1990 18:0317
    
    Saw Kiss live in '79 (Dynasty tour) and Peter Criss DID sing
    the main part of that song, with Paul doing the intro.
    
    Has anybody seen the new Kiss video yet, its been in MTV's top
    10 this week and I keep missing it.
    
    One last note, I looked at the song lineup for the lastest Frehleys
    Comets album, And it seems like ole Ace has a whole side of Kiss
    songs, including Cold Gin, Rocket Ride, Shock me, Love gun. Has any-
    body heard these tunes and how do they sound?? I cant imagine Ace
    singing Cold Gin!!!
    
    Must be his new band is desperate for material...........GOD he looks
    bad, PUT THE MAKEUP BACK ON DUDE!!!
    
    Albert                                                      
19.20TRON::PERKINSPronounced 'Fruit Wobbler Mangrove'Fri Jan 26 1990 07:086
    
    Gene Simmons is going to take legal action against White Zombie because
    one of them wore his copyrighted face make-up on the cover of their
    "God of Thunder" EP.
    
    FLip
19.21USCTR1::KGALLANTMisled...Sat Feb 03 1990 18:0711
    
    	Reprinted from Metal Edge without permission
    
    	...Kiss had announced their U.S. intinerary and opening 
    	act (Britny Fox), then abruptly canceled the tour.  With
    	the road crowded with the likes of Motley Crue, Aerosmith,
    	and Whitesnake, they opted not to compete.  There was still
    	talk of a May tour; meanwhile, they'll work on an 
    	"Exposed II" video...
    
    	tigga~~~ 
19.22MILKWY::SLABOUNTYSave a tree, say no to FF's!!Wed May 02 1990 13:1214
    
    	Well, I went out and bought CD #200 last night ... and I dec-
    	ided on "Double Platinum".  I have half of the album on 8-
    	track (one 8-track of a 2-tape set was given to me about 5
    	years ago), and I will be GLAD to get rid of it.
    
    	I listened to it once, but I think I'm going to have to
    	listen to it at extremely high decibels at least 5 or 6
    	times to really appreciate it.
    
    	Alot of great songs on here that I'd forgotten about.
    
    							GTI
    
19.23"..Your ready to pleeeeese....Down on your knees!HYEND::MANDILEJust Do It.Fri May 11 1990 13:1616
    
    Anyone catch the new Kiss "Rise To It " video? I was under the
    impression they would wear make-up doing the tune, but they only showed
    Paul and Gene at they end in full costume and make-up. If memory serves
    me correct, Paul was wearing his costume from the "Alive II" tour
    and Gene's was from the "Dynasty" tour. The video is a hard rockin'
    concert thing, but I'm not sure if I like the tune, yet.
    
    Its interesting to see that Kiss has probably had their biggest hit since
    "Beth" with "Forever".
    
    Any comments on the new video?
    
    
    
    Albert
19.24COBRA::VAVRUSKAI gotta get out of this place..Mon Jul 02 1990 10:5010
    I went to the Kiss concert at Great Woods Friday night.  There was
    far too much feedback in the music, but besides that the music was
    good....Paul Stanley should drop all the old stuff that he has to
    sing since he can't hit the notes like he used to and since his
    voice isn't what it used to be the vocals on the old stuff sounded
    the SH!T.  The newer stuff sounded good but I found out that kiss
    is not the best band to go to live....a much better studio band.
    
    Chris
    
19.25Give up the old stuff...COBRA::VAVRUSKAI gotta get out of this place..Tue Jul 03 1990 04:059
    RE:: tigga...
    
    	They sounded good on thier new stuff, but Paul couldn't hold
    a note on the old stuff.  His voice is shot.  
              
    JMHO
    
    Chris
    
19.26a good time...AD::FLATTERYTue Jul 03 1990 14:325
    we had fabulous seats and all in all i thought the show was really good
    and we had a great time...i just have one question though...is gene
    simmons now modelling for the new orson welles line of designer
    clothing?....................he give me the collywobbles...........
                                                            /k
19.27is there any 'real' music on there?NAVIER::STARRWould you like to go to heaven toniteWed Aug 08 1990 18:1710
I remember seeing 'Kiss Meets The Phantom Of The Park' when I was younger, but 
don't remember it much now. But I can buy it new for $7.99 at BJ's. But I 
don't really want to spend the bucks on the stupid movie. My question is:

Does anyone know how many songs Kiss performs live for the movie? And is it
really lie, or is it the recorded versions just overdubbed? 

Just want to know whether its worth my $$$ or not.....

alan
19.28Rip rip rip and destroy.RAVEN1::BUTKUSSniffing rancid buns of angels.Fri Aug 17 1990 11:478
    
    
    	Alan there are a few live things on the movie like an acoustic
    	 version of "Beth" and something else. If you want to laugh
    	it's a good movie to get. (not because it's funny though)
    
    	M
    	 B
19.29MILKWY::SLABOUNTYHemorrhoid from HellFri Aug 17 1990 14:527
    
    	I just bought it a couple weeks ago ($8 at Ames), but I
    	haven't watched it yet ... saw it a few years ago, and I
    	liked it.
    
    							GTI
    
19.30Brace yourselfHAYAMA::FENNELLItchy and ScratchyMon Aug 20 1990 19:137
I remember it being quite bad.  I was a big fan at the time and even I had
trouble with it.  I think they play live but I can't remember.  They might
do Firehouse and Rock and Roll All Night.  It says on the back of the tape
what songs they do.


Tim
19.31Are you ready to please.....down on your kneesBTOVT::MANDILE_ASplat SaddamThu Feb 07 1991 14:3825
    
    RE:.194
    
    "KISS meets the phantom" was a pretty bad movie, in fact the band didnt
    like either, they said things were taken out of their hands and they
    lost control. The concert scenes were OK.
    If you want a good KISS video, spend the extra bucks, and buy "KISS
    exposed". This video is great, there is some vintage concert footage
    from they mid-late seventies. Gene and Paul kinda narrate the whole
    thing. I was amazed that they showed alot of their concert antics,
    you would defenitly enjoy this more that the Phantom thing.
    
    RE: A few back
    
    Where did you hear ACE would be touring with the band again??
    
    I listen to KISS rarely now (mainly when I'm working out, blasted thru 
    my walkman)......Gawd their lyrics were STUPID as hell!
    
    But I still think they were great, the pioneers of make-up and major
    stage shows.....I knew peter would be the first to leave the band, 
    and I also knew things would really go downhill when they took the
    make-up off......I still consider myself a huge fan though.
    
    Al
19.32KISS ME RED!!COMET::FRISBYAPARIS BURNINGMon May 06 1991 15:236
    KISS FANS---Eric Carr had heart surgery last week and is recovering
    quite nicely. The band was recording there next album but took a 
    break to go see Eric in the hospital.
    They said he should be back to normal in no time!8*)
                               Frizkid
    
19.33DUCK::PERKINSPPositive Mental OctopusTue May 07 1991 06:1311
    
    Eric was suffereing from a condition called Pericarditis....it causes
    a fluid build up around the heart...usually due to a growth in one of
    the chambers.
    
    The doctors discovered it when they gave him an X-ray...he went to the
    doctors complaining that he had a bad bout of bronchitis.
    
    He underwent a four hour open heart surgery on April 9th.
    
    Flip
19.34PROXY::MCCARRONPushead/illustrator extraordinaire.Mon Jun 24 1991 13:0311
    
    
    	From the Herald 6/22...
    
    	Kiss drummer Eric Carr, who replaced founding member Peter Criss
    in 1980, is undergoing his 2nd bout with cancer this year.  Carr had 
    a heart tumor removed last spring and was hospitalized earlier this 
    month for treatment of cancerous growths in his lungs.
    
    	Cards and correspondance may be sent to: Eric Carr c/o Mercury
    Publicity, 825 Eight Ave. 24th floor, New York, NY, 10019.
19.35new Bill & TedHAVASU::HEISERAbstinenceMakesTheFondHeartWanderThu Jul 11 1991 21:448
    Kiss does a cover of Petra's "God Gave Rock'n'Roll to You" for the Bill
    & Ted sequel (release is this weekend).  King's X also has a tune in
    it.
    
    I just heard the Kiss cover and I think Petra's version is a lot
    better.
    
    Mike
19.36song = lame, video = cool (and that's unusual!)QRYCHE::STARRSpontaneity has its time and place.Wed Aug 21 1991 13:5110
>    Kiss does a cover of Petra's "God Gave Rock'n'Roll to You" for the Bill
>    & Ted sequel (release is this weekend).  

Petra??? It was orignally done by Argent back in the 70's!

I saw the video for it this morning. Pretty stupid (and lame) song, but the 
video is cool because they have a lot of flashbacks of old Kiss footage - 
all stuff with makeup on, and Gene shooting flames, and all sortsa cool stuff!

alan
19.37GOES11::G_HOUSEWhy NOT ask why?Wed Aug 21 1991 13:588
    I don't mind the song that much, except that it seems to go on forever
    (every version I've heard).  You know how those "anthem" things wear on
    ya...
    
    I like Kiss's version, good cover, they added to the song.  Haven't
    seen the video though, not much TV/MTV time lately!
    
    gh
19.38POWDML::GOLDBERGstonewallWed Aug 21 1991 14:053
    
    
    I agree with Alan.  The song sucks and the video is cool!
19.39RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEHere's a quarter ...Wed Aug 21 1991 14:074
    The song/video/idea INHALES !!!
    
    I miss the old days (like the 1st live album and everything before
    that, the rest is carion ...)
19.40HAVASU::HEISERmight as well be on MarsWed Aug 21 1991 14:297
    Re: Argent
    
    yeah I know.  What I meant was that I like Petra's second version
    better (they covered it twice before Kiss did).  Argent did it in the
    early '70s.
    
    Mike
19.41Kiss is no moreNEWOA::DALLISONyoumustbeoffyourtrollyreadingthisMon Aug 26 1991 14:356
    
    I saw the video on the ball last night and its the most awful song I've
    ever heard!!
    
    Kiss have finally keeled over backwards with a large fart and are
    finally pushing up daiseys.
19.42Eric Carr is no moreCASEE::LALLIDidier - OSAG Valbonne - DTN 828.5423Tue Nov 26 1991 05:415
Eric Carr is dead yesterday from a cancer.

Didier

PS : This topic should have the keyword "bands"
19.43NEEPS::IRVINEwe have assumed controlTue Nov 26 1991 06:036
    Well I don't know sh*t about playing drums but when I saw Kiss with
    Eric Carr, I thought he made some excellent noise from the drum kit
    area.  (Best thing about the gig really!)
    
    Bonzo
    
19.44whos next?CAVLRY::BUCKBuck in BroncoTue Nov 26 1991 12:143
    First Freddie, now Eric...
    
    They say these things come in threes...
19.45No respect for elders!COMET::FRISBYAShe's like TEN-THOUSAND LOVERSTue Nov 26 1991 13:186
    Just as Mr. Death  stays away from the gods...AEROSMITH!
    
                        I say the Stones...Take em' all!
    
                          Frizkid
    
19.46and Dr. Seuss!!!GAMGEE::ROBRMelotta:available on K'Mar recordingsWed Nov 27 1991 01:383
    
    yeah, gene roddenberry....  :')
    
19.47Will they go on forever?COMET::FRISBYAI never said I loved youMon Dec 16 1991 14:345
    Former Badlands drummer Eric Singer has officially taken the place of
    Eric Carr in Kiss. At least for the band's next album REVENGE.
    
                Frizkid
    
19.48VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKand a beer.Mon Dec 16 1991 14:373
    
    I didn't like him at all. He's too busy exagerating his moves instead
    of playing to the extent he could.
19.49KIDVAX::CESCOBARCandybarMon Dec 16 1991 14:376
    
    
    Man, they sure no how to kick the dead horse...
    
    
    Chris
19.50There's nothing wrong with flailing sticks!COMET::FRISBYAI never said I loved youMon Dec 16 1991 14:435
      Pete....If you don't like watching wild drummers who go crazy:
                   Don't ever watch me...You'll leave!
    
                      Frizkid
    
19.51KIDVAX::CESCOBARCandybarMon Dec 16 1991 14:456
    
    As long as you throw in a little technique there's nothing wrong with
    'flailing'
    
    
    Chris
19.52VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKand a beer.Mon Dec 16 1991 14:502
    
    our stuff is way too fast for me to do that...i'd love to though.
19.53CSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersSat Feb 15 1992 18:252
    Which album was released first, Hotter than Hell or Dressed to Kill?
    
19.54CSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersSat Feb 15 1992 18:276
    Did Ace Frehley and Peter Criss both leave the band before they
    	removed their make-up?  Who left first?
    
    
    Jim
    
19.5530380::COOKCaught in a mosh!Sat Feb 15 1992 19:408
    
    re: .54
    
    Dressed to Kill came out first, out of those two.
    
    re: .55
    
    Yes, and I believe Peter Chris left first.
19.56Hello???WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnMon Feb 17 1992 00:209
    Wasn't the first album just called"KISS"?
    
    From what I remember,Ace HAD to leave first because of a car crash he
    had that resulted in him not being able to Fly.But the band was alittle
    sick of him at the time anyways..
    I think Chris left later....
    
    Crazy_when_the_Make_up_fell_off,_I-dont_A_know_Al
    
19.57anyone got a PS10???NEEPS::MCLARKMon Feb 17 1992 09:354
    I can assure you that Peter left first (1979 the UNMASKED tour) The
    drummer was a young Eric Carr.......NOTE the title of the album was
    called unmasked BUT they still had their make up on (Eric being made up
    as a fox!!)
19.58POWDML::GOLDBERGwalk that walkMon Feb 17 1992 10:5913
    
    
    From what I understand, Ace left afterwards not by choice, he was
    thrown in jail for about a year.
    
    
    The Mystic Powers band room has a couple of KISS posters hanging up
    with Ace and Eric Carr as well as the rest of the band - in makeup.
    
    
    
    
    Goddess F.
19.59CAVLRY::BUCKPaul Gilbert ROOOLZMon Feb 17 1992 11:066
    I was *the* Kiss fan of the world...here's the poop:
    
    Hotter than Hell came out before DTK..in fact, it was first released
    in Japan as an import (hence the graphics on the cover!).
    
    Ace left before Peter, nether before the makeup came off.
19.60?POWDML::GOLDBERGwalk that walkMon Feb 17 1992 13:2510
    
    
    Alright, wait a minute!
    
    What about the Elder album?  That has Ace on guitar, Eric on drums.
    
    
    
    
    Goddess F.
19.61Anoter big Kiss fan checking in...MYOSPY::D_SWEENEYMon Feb 17 1992 14:0119
    Peter definatly left first!  He played only some of the drum tracks on
    the Album with the Cartoon strip on the front, it could be unmasked?
    
    Ace did indeed leave becouse of legal troubles, he had a little High
    speed car chase with the Either the NJ or Conn police that ended with
    him cracking up his Porsche...
    
     The sequence of Albums goes like this,  Kiss, Hotter the Hell, Dressed
     to Kill, Alive, Rock and Roll over,  Destroyer, Lovegun, Alive II,
     Double Platinum, Solo albums, Dynasty, Unmasked, Music from the Elder,
     Creatures of the night, Lick it up, and then I lost intrest ???
    
    I was a huge Kiss fan when I was younger belonged to the Kiss army and
    at one time had about 150 pitcures of them plastering the walls of my
    room.  Some how though I've never managed to catch them in concert.
    I've often hoped for a reunion tour of the origanl group with Make Up
    on, that would be killer!!!
    
    Dan
19.62PEKING::PERKINSPset adrift on memory blissMon Feb 17 1992 14:056
    
    Peter Criss left before Unmasked, wlthough his picture was on the cover
    (Eric carr was the real drummer).  Ace Frehley left during Creatures of
    the Night (Vinnie V played the extra tracks).
    
    
19.63CSC32::J_HERNANDEZFuzzy duck, Duzzy, ducky fuzzMon Feb 17 1992 14:244
    What album had "I want to rock and roll all night"?
    
    
    Never really into Kiss.
19.64Is it supposed to be this loud?CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELLOh Fiddlesticks now I need a tetanus shot"Mon Feb 17 1992 14:299
Rock and Roll all night was from Dressed to Kill and there was a live version on
Alive.

Back a few:

The order for Destroyer and Rock and Roll Over is reversed.  Destroyer came out
first.  I saw that tour.  My first concert ever.

Tim
19.65CAVLRY::BUCKSchwarzkopf scrambled my brain!Mon Feb 17 1992 14:596
    -1
    
    Thanks for the Destroyer/R&R over clarification!
    
    i saw destroyer...not my first concert, but I was BLOWN away!!  So
    loud, so many special effects...killer stage...i was like WOAH!
19.66CSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersTue Feb 18 1992 00:2914
    I bought the Kiss eXpsosed video.
    It shows show old concert footage.  From what I could see, Ace was
    still in the band when the Fox was playing drums.  From watching their
    videos on the tape, I can make out 4 different guitarists.  Ace, Vinnie
    Vincent, Bruce Kulick, and someone else.  Gene mentions his name on the
    tape but I don't remember who it was.  I think he was the guitarist on
    Lick it Up (unless that was Vincent, then he was the one in the Heaven's
    on Fire video).
    
    Why did Peter Criss leave?  Gene and Paul don't really mention why in
    the tape.
    
    Jim
    
19.672 greatest hits albums in a row?CSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersTue Feb 18 1992 00:344
    Note 19.62 says Alive II was released and then Double Platinum.
    Why would Kiss release 2 greatest hits type albums in a row?
    (I consider Alive II a live greatest hits album for their previous 3
    albums.)
19.68Huh?CSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersTue Feb 18 1992 00:395
    Wait a minute!  Some say Hotter than Hell before Dressed to Kill, some
    one else says DTK before HTH.  Which is it?
    
    Jim
    
19.69Sounds like people are confused.COMET::FRISBYASoYouCry,SoYouHurt,SoWhat'sNew?Tue Feb 18 1992 11:125
    The other guitarist was Mark St. John would aquired tendonitious(sp)
    while with Kiss.  Maybe someone can list a disc list. 
    
                         Frizkid
    
19.7030492::COOKCaught in a mosh!Tue Feb 18 1992 11:282
    
    From Hudson, MA.!
19.71CAVLRY::BUCKLincoln Park's COMET has been SAVED!!!Tue Feb 18 1992 12:5927
    Yes, the order went:
    
    Hotter than Hell
    Dressed to Kill
    
    then
    
    Alive II
    Solo Albums
    Double Platinum
    Dynasty
    
    Basically, DP was a "tie over" album while the band re-grouped from
    their solo efforts to produce Dynasty (which is a roolin album, btw!).
    
    My personal favorite KISS albums are (in no particular order):
    
    Hotter than Hell
    Dressed to Kill
    Alive 
    Destroyer
    Rock and Roll Over
    Love Gun
    Dynasty
    
    Everything after Dynasty was crap IMVHO.
    
19.72Check on a discography tonight...MYOSPY::D_SWEENEYTue Feb 18 1992 14:037
    
    I have a book at home on Kiss that I'm pretty sure has a listing in the
    back of all there albums and dates of release up to dynasty, as thats
    when the book was written.   Destroyer, in my opionion was the best they
    ever released.  
    
    Dan
19.73CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELLSwervin' Irvan"Tue Feb 18 1992 14:5512
Destroyer was the beginning of the end of these guys.  Success went to their
heads.  As soon as I heard Beth I knew it was over.

I do like Rock and Roll over, but Love Gun was a disco album.

Buck, how can you compare something like Love Gun with I Was Made for Loving You
Baby with the first album and songs like Cold Gin, Firehouse, and Strutter and
Deuce?

These guys just want your money...

Tim
19.74CAVLRY::BUCKLincoln Park's COMET has been SAVED!!!Tue Feb 18 1992 15:084
    I *like* I was made for loving you!!  Ace grooved a killer solo over
    that, and I really liked the disco/metal fusion (I like odd fusions,
    anyways)!  Love Gun was a great album IMHO.  I think Rock and Roll Over
    is their best album.
19.75I hate when people say that!!!!!!!!!!COMET::FRISBYASoYouCry,SoYouHurt,SoWhat'sNew?Tue Feb 18 1992 15:328
    If Kiss just wanted our money don't you think they wouldv'e left the
    biz long ago?   How can you say that?  I think they have enough money
    to last three life times why would they keep going?
     I'm not much of a Kiss fan but atleast I can tell they're for real.
    
               Frizkid
    
    
19.76Better?CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELLSwervin' Irvan"Tue Feb 18 1992 15:511
Okay they don't want money they want groupies...
19.77Theyv'e stood the test of time!COMET::FRISBYASoYouCry,SoYouHurt,SoWhat'sNew?Tue Feb 18 1992 15:539
    No...Not better.   I think they wouldv'e quit along time ago on that
    one too!  I mean once you've had on groupie youv'e had em' all.
      PLus theyv'e had WAY more than their share....
    Your going to have to do better than that too!
    
           You don't do 25 or so albums for groupies.....
    
                       Frizkid
    
19.78KURMA::IGOLDIEPrepare to be dazzledTue Feb 18 1992 15:575
    I think they started out because they believed in what they did now its
    just the $$$$$$$ they are after.
    
    
                                   staynz
19.79my .02POWDML::GOLDBERGwalk that walkTue Feb 18 1992 16:298
    
    
    I really like the Elder album!!
    
    
    
    
    Goddess F.
19.80CAVLRY::BUCKLincoln Park's COMET has been SAVED!!!Tue Feb 18 1992 17:509
    Oh course, Kiss stands for "Kids In Satan's Service"...
    
    NOT!
    
    
    Actually, Paul came up with the name after Gene wanted to name the band
    "F..."!  Paul and Gene started the band, with Peter Criss joining next,
    and Ace joining last.  Their first show was in 1974 with BOC at a small
    club in NYC.  
19.81Facts.COMET::FRISBYASoYouCry,SoYouHurt,SoWhat'sNew?Tue Feb 18 1992 18:095
    Their name before that was Wicked Lester. Pete Criss's solo sold the
    most BTW.
    
                Frizkid
    
19.82CSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersTue Feb 18 1992 20:4415
    In the Kiss eXposed video, they show the 1982 music video for "I Love
    it Loud" (which is on Creatures of the Night).  Ace was the guitarist
    and they still wore makeup.  There's also footage from Kiss's last
    concert in makeup.  I believe it was 1983 (the box the tape came in
    said 1983, Gene says 1982 in the video though). Here they did "I Love
    it Loud"(live) and it was not Ace playing guitar,  I assume it was
    Vinnie Vincent (though I don't know what VV looks like, I can tell you
    it is the same guy on the Lick it Up cover).  Anyway, he was wearing
    makeup.  He had a silver ankh painted along his nose and across his
    forehead.  Did he have a stage name like the others (i.e. Fox, Demon)?
    So I guess Ace left during Creatures of the Night, so he was never
    officially unmasked while with Kiss.
    
    Jim
    
19.83GOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itTue Feb 18 1992 23:135
    Who cares whether they stayed in it for the money or the groupies? 
    After about the first five albums, they didn't get anymore of MY money
    and they sure as h*ll didn't get any *ss off ME!
    
    gh
19.84Couldn't resistCSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersWed Feb 19 1992 00:205
    If Ace was in jail, why didn't he bend the bars with his mind like he
    said he could do in Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park?
    Ha Ha Ha!
    
    Jim
19.85Hard to Believe SOURCE::ZAPPIApunk rock pollyMon Feb 24 1992 15:409
    
    	I forget where the discussion on the Kiss cover album was but
    	anyhow "Hard to Believe" was originally a 2-LP released in
    	Australia on Waterfront records and Southern in the UK released
    	it as a single LP.  It's not to be confused with "Hard to Beat"
    	which if I recall has a similar cover but is Stooge's covers.
    
    	- Jim
    	
19.86Ace lick'd it upMSHRMS::FOSTERFantastically OriginalTue Mar 17 1992 01:0410
    Mixing it up a bit, my all-time favorite guitar solo is by Ace...
    live "Shock Me".  Kiss was my first live concert, in Springfield MA,
    and it was excellent! I've inscribed some serious groves in "Alive"
    and "Alive II" 'recapturing the moments' !
    
    Destroyer is my favorite studio album, I'd have to say Love Gun
    comes in at a close 2nd. Haven't done a lot of studio listening
    on them though, was tuned into them via the live stuff...
    
    Droid
19.87Baby,wants to ride..WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnTue Mar 17 1992 01:343
    "Rocket Ride"impressed me abit.
    
           Crazy_I-was_under_a_ten_wheeler_at_the_time_Al
19.88XCUSME::JENNISONDont Walk AwayTue Mar 17 1992 18:068
    
    
    
    	There is a Kizz convention being held this sunday in Rhode Island
    	at the Holiday Inn next to the Civic Center. It is March 22, from
    	10am-4pm. There will also be a Kizz cover band! 
    
    	SueJ
19.89CAVLRY::BUCKcry to meTue Mar 24 1992 17:493
    Hey MUFFY..
    
    How wuz the KIZZ convention?!?!?
19.90Shout It!XCUSME::JENNISONDream WeaverTue Mar 24 1992 17:5416
    Muffin,
    
    	It was COOL! Had a great time,,,, Saw a few familiar faces...
    
    	Jack-Robs friend. A couple of other NHites.
    
    	The KiZZ tribute band called "Rock N Roll Over" from Providence
    	were excellent! I was definately impressed~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    	Gave me chills! It was like reliving a concert!
    
    	They are looking for a new Ace. So if anyone out there lives 
    	around Providence and are interested-get in touch with them!
    
    	Muffin? How about you !..???? ;)
                                                       
19.91CAVLRY::BUCKcry to meTue Mar 24 1992 18:024
    I would really dig being ACE, but I really don'ty look like him,
    so...  ???  8^(
    
    Buck, former ACE fanatic
19.92XCUSME::JENNISONDream WeaverTue Mar 24 1992 18:044
    Well maybe if you follow some advice over in the HM Hair topic,
    we can get your hair to a good length....8)
    
    SueJ
19.93hairless wonderCAVLRY::BUCKcry to meTue Mar 24 1992 18:093
    Maybe I would wear a wig??
    
    Buck, who just got a "Rob Halford" haircut...BUZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz
19.94XCUSME::JENNISONDream WeaverTue Mar 24 1992 18:101
    Yea Thats the ticket- A wig!
19.95WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnWed Mar 25 1992 08:543
    What the hell,Spinal Tap does it..
    
                          Crazy_:-)_Al
19.96syrups inc.NEEPS::MCLARKThu Mar 26 1992 11:542
    So do Gene and Paul !!!!!!!!!
    
19.97XCUSME::JENNISONDream WeaverThu Mar 26 1992 12:361
    NOT!
19.99ACE plays cool licks (or at least he did)CAVLRY::BUCKThe road to nowhere leads to meWed Apr 08 1992 18:564
    Fwiw, I met ACE once in NYC, and he was sort of a drunked idiot.
    But, in any case, they guy was once one of the most tastiest rock
    guitarists around!!  If I could play with his feel and sense of
    melodicy, I'd have no problem having 0% personality!
19.100I just don't get AceCADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELLWrite me up for 125"Thu Apr 09 1992 15:5710
Buck, do you melodocity or mediocrity??

I guess I like early Kiss, when Ace was still learning how to play from cassettes
or something.  Did he get better?

Gene Simmons said that they got real tired of covering for Ace's alcoholism
and they had to part ways.  Sounded like he wished they didn't have to go that
route.

Tim
19.101GOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itThu Apr 09 1992 17:096
    re: Mike
    
    What did Ace say in the interview that made him sound like such an
    idiot?
    
    gh
19.103extremely BIZARREPOWDML::GOLDBERGgame overWed Apr 22 1992 12:1723
    
    
    Okay.  I saw the new video Saturday night.  It was like shellshock!  
    
    It seems a little strange to me that after Kiss took off the makeup,
    they became extremely poseurish and glam.  Especially when it came to
    clothes!  Just two weeks ago I watched the Exposed video and everyone
    is running around in neon sequined scarves, gloves, etc.  
    
    So now here comes Kiss - death metal band.  Are they jumping on a
    bandwagon or what?  Did they notice that really heavy type metal
    bands have been making it to #1 on the billboards and snatching the
    Grammies?
    
    Paul Stanley seemed REALLY out of place in that video, and whats more,
    the camera was hardly on him!  And Gene was wearing black nail polish!
    
    But who knows maybe they have just decided they would like to do down
    and dirty heavy metal now.  
    
    
    
    Goddess F.
19.104BUSY::SLABOUNTYHereComesTrouble&ItLooksLikeFunWed Apr 22 1992 12:514
    
    	It's about f***in' time.
    
    							GTI
19.105METALX::SWANSONTheyAreAllMissingOnWhatLifesAboutWed Apr 22 1992 14:221
    So how was the song?  Any good?
19.106Gene did say "Change is a must for survival".COMET::FRISBYAI'll be in your hearts forevermoreWed Apr 22 1992 15:1710
    I like it alot! I'm not a Kiss fan by any figment of the imagination
    either.  It's real HEAVY... I don't know it it's "Death Metal" but
    it certainly DARK.
    
     BTW-Kiss is doing a club tour to warm-up for their arena tour and 
    Kevin and Kyle in my band have tickets and backstage passes for the gig
    in Tempe,Arizona.  They're fanatics....
    
             Frizkid
    
19.107Strutter!XCUSME::JENNISONDream WeaverWed Apr 22 1992 17:174
    
    Cant wait to see it !!!!! 
    
    SueJ
19.108SUBURB::COOKSJesus Loves AmericaThu Apr 23 1992 07:283
    Wahey! Sounds good to me. Kiss change with the times,which can`t be a
    bad thing. 
    
19.109DPDMAI::THRELFALLlike strawberry jellyMon Apr 27 1992 16:409
    Newsflash:
    
    
    	"Unholy" rulz.
    
    
    Howdy y'all!!!  
    
    'pril
19.110XCUSME::JENNISONDream WeaverMon Apr 27 1992 19:121
    Cool Cant wait to see it! 
19.111Surprise....Surprise!COMET::FRISBYAI'll be in your hearts forevermoreMon Apr 27 1992 20:408
    I saw it and I'm still freakin'!!!!!!
    
     Certainly a NEW direction.....Shezzz that tune RULES!
    
      >Gene looks posessed but Paul still has the cool pout! 8)
    
              Frizkid
    
19.112it was *ok*CAVLRY::BUCKAunty Emme ... It's a TWISTER!Mon Apr 27 1992 20:544
    I have not seen the video, but finally heard the tune.  Yeah, it's
    heavy, but not as heavy as I thought it would be.  It's certainly 
    not as heavy as GOD OF THUNDER of the Destroyer lp!  So it has more
    DM-style lyrics...big deal.
19.113Flaming Youth will set the world on Fire...MYOSPY::D_SWEENEYThu Apr 30 1992 13:588
    
    I say the video and thought Gene Simmons is his possesed self from 
    1976 destroyer days agian... he always wore black nail polish then.
    I think the songs okay kind of shock after some of there stuff they've
    been doing recently.  Its about time they went back to there roots 
    now if they could just get Ace and Peter back, that would ROOL!
    
    Dan
19.114Killers?CSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersSat Jun 06 1992 19:297
    Is there a Kiss album called KILLERS?
    I've heard it mentioned but I haven't seen it at any record stores.
    I've seen every other cd of theirs (including the 4 solos), but not
    Killers.
    
    Jim
    
19.115COMICS::JAMESMMaroubra Girls.....SCHWING!Sun Jun 07 1992 14:014
    I am not a big enough fan of Kiss to tell you anything about the
    album, but there is definately an album called Killers.
    
    Mark
19.116I like itCAVLRY::BUCKCoasters -- Live to ride, Ride to live!Mon Jun 08 1992 03:388
    The more stuff I hear off the new KIZZ album, the more I think I will
    go out and actually buy this!  I haven't bought a KIZZ album since 
    Dynasty (although since Dynasty, I had Smashes, Thrashes, and Hits, but
    someone gave me that one).  The new lp has an "old" sound to it, which
    is where my liking is coming from.  I stopped liking KIZZ after ACE and
    Peter left, and the band adopted this 'new' sound.  Hotter than Hell,
    Dressed to Kill, Destroyer, and Rock and Roll Over are their best
    efforts ever imvho.
19.117Revenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!COMET::FRISBYAReach for the SkyMon Jun 08 1992 05:1411
    RE::Buck. I agree....
    
        I lean towards the more heavier stuff with Gene Simmons singing.
    Songs like UNHOLY,SPIT,DOMINO,THOU SHALL NOT are the ballz!!!!!
    Although the song I JUST WANNA with Paul singing is great...
    They wrote about four songs with the imfamous Vinnie Vincent. Which I
    thought was really cool.  I also thought it was cool when they put a
    track from 1981 with Eric Carr doing all the instuments as sort of
    tribute.
                 Frizkid
    
19.118XCUSME::JENNISONDream WeaverMon Jun 08 1992 13:115
    
    Well Guys! Looks like Ill get this one toOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    SueJ
    #1 Kizz Fan....
19.119VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersMon Jun 08 1992 13:505
    
    A f riend of mine has it, and I got a listen. It looks to me like
    they've changed their image for the better, but their music hasn't
    changed entirely. Gene's tunes are good. I also think the drummer
    inhales (IMHO)!
19.120SCARGO::GRENIERMon Jun 08 1992 16:4110
    
    
    RE - a few back
    
    KILLERS is kind of a 'greatest hits' album; has some of their hits 
    and a few remixes on it. Not sure if it's still available. I know
    the CD is only available in Japan.  Hope this helps,
    
    
    Steve
19.121Give credit where credit is due....COMET::FRISBYAReach for the SkyMon Jun 08 1992 16:528
    The drummer inhales?  NOT! C'mon Pete....He has some tasty licks and 
    he just as good if not better than you. BTW-He was touring for ALICE
    COOPER before he joined with KISS. Another reason for YOU not to bust
    his balls. 8)
    
                   Frizkid
    
    
19.122CAVLRY::BUCKCoasters -- Live to ride, Ride to live!Mon Jun 08 1992 17:261
    -1 but has he played at EM Loews?
19.123What was I thinking....COMET::FRISBYAReach for the SkyMon Jun 08 1992 17:284
    I guess I overlooked that.....He does SUCK.  8)
    
                 Frizkid
    
19.124Yuk!CYNO::FERRISMon Jun 08 1992 17:496
    
     Well I hope all of you aren't referring to the new stuff that has some
    song that has the lyrics about I just want to forget you. Very lame
    IMO.
          mike
    
19.125CAVLRY::BUCKCoasters -- Live to ride, Ride to live!Mon Jun 08 1992 17:556
    >Well I hope all of you aren't referring to the new stuff that has some
    >song that has the lyrics about I just want to forget you. Very lame
    >IMO.
    
    I think they're saying "I just want to Funky you", or something like
    that.  yes, lame-o lyrically, but the groove was way cool!
19.126Kinda sounds like...CYNO::FERRISMon Jun 08 1992 18:235
    
     It sounds alot like "Summertime Blues" to call it original. And yes
    I agree about the lyrics.
                                mike
    
19.127VCSESU::COOKGotta wear shadesMon Jun 08 1992 20:392
    
    Jealousy rears it's ugly head once again, huh Buck.
19.128I'd love to play in KIZZ!CAVLRY::BUCKCoasters -- Live to ride, Ride to live!Mon Jun 08 1992 20:481
    I guess so, pete.
19.129hehe.. had to be said..MR4DEC::JWHITMANI'll be Ba--aack....Mon Jun 08 1992 20:565
    
    
    
    
    WE'RE NOT WORHTY!! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!! 
19.130But I just want a tongue like Gene SimmonsGOES11::G_HOUSEWho do ya love?Mon Jun 08 1992 23:118
>    Jealousy rears it's ugly head once again, huh Buck.
    
    Kiss has been a great band, and have managed to stay popular and active
    for almost 20 years now.  That's a lot to be jealous of!
    
    ...even if their lyrics are a little cheesy.
    
    gh 
19.131He learn over 40 songs in five days for the tour.COMET::FRISBYAReach for the SkyMon Jun 08 1992 23:419
    Yea.....I'm REAL jealous of Kiss.
    
     I'd love to be around and half as cool for half the amount of time. 8)
    
                  C'mon Pete....Listen to the album again and tell me you
    couldv'e done a better job.  
    
               Frizkid
    
19.132VCSESU::COOKGotta wear shadesTue Jun 09 1992 02:383
    
    Whether I can do better or not is not the point. I don't think his
    drumming fits Gene's powerful songs. 
19.133BUSY::SLABOUNTYI'm not part of the real worldTue Jun 09 1992 10:3610
    
    	RE: Pete
    
    	I could see your point if you were criticizing one of the music-
    	ians, but heck ... it's only the drummer!!
    
    
    	8^) 8^)
    
    							GTI
19.134VCSESU::COOKGotta wear shadesTue Jun 09 1992 12:206
    
    I think the music would be more intense with a Slayer/Overkill type
    drummer. Maybe I should of explained, so I would've been safe from the
    verbal ravages of the Buckmeister.
    
    /prc
19.135i didn't, reallyCAVLRY::BUCKCoasters -- Live to ride, Ride to live!Tue Jun 09 1992 12:511
    I did not ravage, did I??
19.136I like his style....COMET::FRISBYAReach for the SkyTue Jun 09 1992 14:265
    I think the drums would totally lame with Overkill/Slayer drums.
    Then it wouldn't be Kiss and certainly not original.....
    
              Frizkid
    
19.137DRCCSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersWed Jun 10 1992 01:289
    I heard a version of Detroit Rock City I never heard before on the
    radio.  The only difference was that they said "you gotta lose your
    mind in Detroit Rock City" twice in the song instead of the usual once.
    It wasn't a live version.  It's not the version you hear on Destroyer,
    Alive II, or Smashes, Thrashes & Hits.  Is their some other CD that has
    this version or was this just a version the radio station put together?
    
    Jim
    
19.138SUBURB::COOKSNo sex please,we`re BritishWed Jun 10 1992 12:035
    Killers or (is it Killer?) is from 1982,and is a collection of old
    Kiss songs,and a couple of new songs.  I remember it `cuz i wuz living
    in Norway at the time,and everyone wuz big Kiss fans (apart from me.ha!).
    
    
19.139KURMA::IGOLDIESo be it....!Wed Jun 10 1992 12:086
    I've spent some time in Norway and have a Norweigan friend coming over
    tonight.After a week in Norway,British wimmen look dodgey.Scandanavian
    babes are excellant!
    
    
                                             Staynz
19.140KURMA::IGOLDIESo be it....!Wed Jun 10 1992 12:305
    Aye and their not afraid to get their baps oot!...........I met a girl
    called Marie-Anna..................8)
    
    
                                                  Staynz
19.142SUBURB::COOKSLust for lifeThu Jun 11 1992 07:486
    Oh dear. Having re-read .148 i`ve decided to delete it.
    
    Anyone seeing Kiss on their latest tour? I`m not. I saw them on the
    Lick It Up and Animalize tours,and thought they were crap. They weren`t
    bad at Donnington,though. Mainly cuz they did mainly old stuff.
    
19.143KURMA::IGOLDIESo be it....!Thu Jun 11 1992 09:246
    I was at that Donnington too and thought they were ok,I wouldn't go and
    see them headline on a tour!
    
    
    
                                               Staynz
19.144Import album...MYOSPY::D_SWEENEYThu Jun 11 1992 17:317
    
    I have Killers at home its a import from Germany, I think?? I got it 
    about 8 or 9 years ago.  Its as mentioned earlier a greatest hits 
    kind of album, but it does have 2 songs on it with Ace playing, that
    maybe the last songs released with him playing for Kiss. 
    
     Dan
19.145PEKING::PERKINSPEnglish for Aliens. Shop-shop-...Thu Jun 11 1992 20:456
    
    I stood at the back when kiss were doing their set at Donnington.  I
    have no idea what they looked like because the air was full of piss
    bombs and inflated condoms, but they sounded okay.
    
    Flip
19.146And Bruce is touring the music stores for MarshallGOES11::G_HOUSEAin'tNoCureForTheSummertimeBlues!Tue Jun 16 1992 19:438
    I heard part of an interview call-in thing with Kiss (at least Gene and
    Paul) on the radio last night and they played some new songs. 
    Interesting sounding stuff, but man, their vocals on at least one song
    sounded like a country-rock band!  I'm going "Izzat new .38 Special?"
    
    Strange...
    
    gh
19.147Bruce is coming....COMET::FRISBYAShe's the bag ladyTue Jun 16 1992 21:315
    He's going to be a Prosound soon....Ya know Kyle and Kevin will 
    camp out in front of the store.
    
             Friz
    
19.148Bruce is ok, I supposeGOES11::G_HOUSEA waste of skinTue Jun 16 1992 22:343
    ProSound?  <yawn>  Maybe I'll have to miss that one...
    
    gh
19.149CAVLRY::BUCKPut up or shut up!Wed Aug 19 1992 20:314
    I'm really starting to like the new KIZZ album!!
    
    Also, I've been airing out the ole favs ... Hotter Than Hell, Dressed
    to Kill, Destroyer, Rock n Roll Over, and Love Gun!
19.150I was made for lovin' you baby...COMET::FRISBYASUCK MY KISSWed Aug 19 1992 20:409
    Dude, you just don't know much about good music! The new Kiss is
    roolin'! I'm even thinking about getting some of the older stuff...
    Buck:the new home video came out yesterday and it has massive footage
    of them in make-up and some very long/interesting interviews.
    
          Everytime that b**ch bends over I forget my name....Domino!
    
     Friz
    
19.151RAVEN1::B_ADAMSI will truely miss my friends!Wed Aug 19 1992 22:065
19.152 I like "I was made for lovin' you baby"!COMET::FRISBYASUCK MY KISSWed Aug 19 1992 22:514
    Buck and B.A.: What did you guys think of the Kiss 'disco' days?
    
     Friz
    
19.153CAVLRY::BUCKPut up or shut up!Thu Aug 20 1992 00:121
    KIZZ roolz supreme ... even their DISCO days were awesome!!
19.154RAVEN1::B_ADAMSI will truely miss my friends!Thu Aug 20 1992 01:107
    re-2,
    
    	You mean the Dynasty album and the rest after that?  Well, I wasn't
    too impressed with them because of the earlier albums.  I guess I come
    from the old school...1st through Rock'N'Roll Over are my favorites.
    
    B.A.
19.155CAVLRY::BUCKPut up or shut up!Thu Aug 20 1992 02:255
    Dynasty was the last KIZZ album I really loved.  The love affair died
    quickly there after (which started with their solo albums ... loved
    ACE's, liked Paul's, Simmon's had a coulple hot spots, but overall was
    a dog, and criss' blew chunks!).  Similar to the solo albums, UNMASKED
    had a couple of hot spots, but overall was weak.
19.156RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEA proud AMPutee ...Thu Aug 20 1992 10:056
    I saw "Domino" on MTV last weekend .... I really liked it, but if you
    close your eyes, it sounds like ZZ Top.  I ain't complaining, just
    making a statement.  Does the rest of the album have a similar groove
    to "Domino" ?
    
    Scary (who used to be in a KISS cover band, da good times !)
19.157BOVES::FENNELLLiving in the limelightThu Aug 20 1992 12:426
I remember watching Kiss do Firehouse and Duece on The Midnight Special.  I was
hooked after that.  I started losing interest around Destroyer.

They were the first big concert I ever saw.  Tough act to follow...

Tim
19.158CAVLRY::BUCKPut up or shut up!Thu Aug 20 1992 12:454
>I remember watching Kiss do Firehouse and Duece on The Midnight Special.  I was
    
    Don't date yourself, Tim!
    8^)
19.159CAVLRY::BUCKPut up or shut up!Thu Aug 20 1992 12:451
    1-69!
19.160BOVES::FENNELLLiving in the limelightThu Aug 20 1992 12:491
I was only 2 back then (1975) though... Yeah, that's it.
19.161LIVESHARE::COOKConfusion?... I don't get it.Thu Aug 20 1992 12:583
    One of my friends said that they put on one of the best shows he's
    seen, and even though I don't care for them all that much, that I'd
    like one of their concerts...  Must be one heck of a show!!!
19.162RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEA proud AMPutee ...Thu Aug 20 1992 13:087
    Hell, I rode my bike to the music store to buy the 1st album ...
    
    
    .... on 8 track !!!  8^)
    
    
    Scare'
19.163BUSY::ESCOBARSilence Speaks Louder Than WordsThu Aug 20 1992 13:302
    
    Gak.
19.164NopeGOES11::G_HOUSEAll over but the shoutingThu Aug 20 1992 16:5111
    I was really into the early Kiss stuff, but I thought their "disco" era
    stuff sucked hard.  That was when I stopped buying their albums and
    listening to them.  I still think the first 3-4 albums were the best.  
    
    I haven't been able to get into any of their more recent stuff either,
    since they dumped the makeup.  It's like it all sounds real generic to
    me, it seems to have lost the personality the first few albums had. 
    The stuff I've heard off the newest album seems most like the early
    material to me, but I probably won't buy it.
    
    gh
19.165CAVLRY::BUCKPut up or shut up!Thu Aug 20 1992 17:131
    If they did a "Makeup -- reuinion tour", I'd go see it!
19.166BUSY::ESCOBARSilence Speaks Louder Than WordsThu Aug 20 1992 17:151
    Gak.
19.167BOVES::FENNELLLiving in the limelightThu Aug 20 1992 17:371
You blouse you!!!
19.168USOPS::GALLANTTo hell with romancin'....Thu Aug 20 1992 18:0110
    
    
    	RE: Chris
    	>Gak!
    
    	Oh I don't know... I think Buck would look kinda cute with a
    	huge black curly wig, elevator shoes and the Peter Criss cat
    	face (drummer or not) (8
    
    	tigg~~~~
19.169POWDML::GOLDSMITHThu Aug 20 1992 18:159
    Friz-
    
    and I quote "The new Kiss is roolin'!"
    
    Speaking of not knowing about good music...Kiss is the worst of bad
    music.  They should have hung it up after the goofy movie.  Now we're
    stuck with them for another 10 years at least.  Somebody help us.
    
    Steve
19.170I'm not even a big Kiss fan..I guess I should pick a sideCOMET::FRISBYASUCK MY KISSThu Aug 20 1992 18:3212
    I watched the home video last night...Anybody who doubts Kiss should
    watch it. After that you MIGHT have a clue to what Kiss is all about.
     Paul Stanley said "It you hate us..God bless you. If you love us..then
    that great too! If you're in the middle...GET THE F**K OUT!
     He also said "Revenge for us has been stick around as long as we have"
    Peter Criss doesn't even do his own voice in "Kiss meets the Phantom".
    He didn't show up for the voice overs so someone else did his voice."
    
         I think they'll be around at least 10 more years...That's great!
    
       Friz
    
19.171Hey, sonny, I wanna rock and roll all night.POWDML::GOLDSMITHThu Aug 20 1992 19:027
    
    Yeah, great.  Paul sitting in a wheelchair on stage.  Wheee.
    
    They signed something like a ten album deal like 5 years ago.  I think
    they've only done two or three since then.  Oh no.
    
    S
19.172OH YES!COMET::FRISBYASUCK MY KISSThu Aug 20 1992 19:305
    From what I'm heard:  They put on one of the greatest live shows for
    old guys. 8)
    
           Friz
    
19.173BUSY::ESCOBARSilence Speaks Louder Than WordsThu Aug 20 1992 19:322
    
    Gak.
19.174Go "GAK" somewhere else!COMET::FRISBYASUCK MY KISSThu Aug 20 1992 19:385
    WOULD YOU SHUT THE FACK UP?  Sheezz..
         Gak is the sound that comes out of my mouth evertime I see your
    notes!
                 Friz
    
19.175XCUSME::JENNISONLeave Your Body At The DoorTue Aug 25 1992 17:004
    
    They Do have the best show! I love em! Forever Kizz....
    
    SueJ
19.176Xtreme Close UpCSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersSat Sep 05 1992 16:229
    I bought the Kiss Xtreme Close Up video last week.
    It's definitely the best documentary of the band that there is.
    It highlights each of their albums, plus they tell how each member
    got into the band and why they left.
    Also why they wore make-up and why they took it off.
    Everthing you'd want to know is answered in this tape.
    
    Jim
    
19.177KILLERSCSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersSat Sep 05 1992 16:3912
    I finally found KILLERS the other day.
    I was doubtful that it existed.
    I assume it's not available on CD because it wasn't listed on
    the master list of Kiss CDs.
    I was just walking past the cassette section.....and there it was.
    The yellow box got my attention.
    It's yet another greatest hits album.  12 songs, 1 of which is live.
    I really like that song "Sure Know Something".  It's kind of disco-ish
    but I think it's pretty cool.
    
    Jim
    
19.178MYOSPY::D_SWEENEYMon Sep 07 1992 13:238
    
    "Sure know something" is off of Dynasty.. A pretty good tune.  
     
     Anyone seen the new video for "Domino" on MTV? Caughtit the other
    night,  Gene is getting old looking!!  good song,  has anyone got
    the new album? Comments...good, bad, etc....
    
      Dan
19.179JUPITR::BJUBINVILLETue Sep 08 1992 06:269
       re-1
    
                    Domino?  This isn't the same one that has
    the line,  "every damn time she comes in the room it's the
    same damn thing, when that b*tch bends over, I forget my
    name..." is it????????
    
    
    BJ
19.180BUSY::SLABOUNTYTwisted forever, forever twisted.Tue Sep 08 1992 09:566
    
    	That's the one ... great song!!
    
    	I'd buy the album just for that song, and I probably will.
    
    							GTI
19.181WMOIS::MAZURKASon_of_the_SwaggerTue Sep 08 1992 09:565
    Thats it.
    re.abit back.    You can't blame these guys for lookin alittle old.
    They go back A_ways and have been Around.
    
                                  Crazy_gotta_Rent_that_Vidio_Al
19.182CAVLRY::BUCKTituba's TalesTue Sep 08 1992 14:071
    The new KIZZ album is a MUST BUY!!
19.183Probably $20-$30.SCARGO::GRENIERTue Sep 08 1992 20:288
    RE - a few back
    
    Killers IS available on CD (japanese import).  Check Goldmine
    Magazine, or I'm sure your local record store can order it for
    you.  
    
    
    Steve
19.184KillersCSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersFri Sep 11 1992 01:299
    Record stores like Strawberries, Record Town, and Tape World (worm)
    said that they  couldn't get Killers on CD.  They looked at the same
    book I did which lists Kiss CDs.  Killers was not listed.
    
    In the Kiss Xtreme Close-up tape, they show each of their CDs.
    Killers is not among them.
    
    Jim
    
19.185CSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersFri Sep 11 1992 01:304
    Which Kiss CD is "I'm a Legend Tonight" on (other than Killers)?
    
    Jim
    
19.186SCARGO::GRENIERSat Sep 12 1992 00:009
    Re - Jim
    
    Then pick up a copy of Goldmine Magazine.  I've seen at least 5
    dealers that have it for sale.
    
    
    
    Steve
    
19.187KIZZ ROOLZCAVLRY::BUCKCan't Fool Me!Fri Sep 18 1992 13:445
    Can anyone tell me about this KIZZ album I've heard about??  It's an
    import of all cover tunes, with Nirvana doing a cover of "Do You Love
    Me" (from the Destroyer lp).
    
    ???   This sounds great ... what's the poop on it?
19.189KILLERS, againCSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersSat Sep 19 1992 19:5721
    Regarding KILLERS, I don't think it's a complete greatest hits album.
    I think some of the songs were new, since I could find a parent album
    for them.
    Here's ther list
    1. I'm a Legend Tonight - ??
    2. Down on Your Knees   - ??
    3. Cold Gin             - Kiss
    4. Love Gun             - Love Hun
    5. Shout it out Loud    - Destroyer
    6. Sure Know Something  - Dynasty
    7. Nowhere to Run       - ??
    8. Partners in Crime    - ??
    9. Detroit Rock City    - Destroyer
    10. God of Thunder      - Destroyer
    11. I was Made for Loving You  - Dynasty
    12. Rock and Roll all Nite (live)  - Alive
    
    Can anyone identify the songs with the ?? next to them.  Were they new?
    
    Jim
     
19.190200 replies!!BUSY::SLABOUNTYShake me, bake me.Fri Sep 25 1992 10:3311
    
    	Well, I've given "Revenge" 3 or 4 listens now, and consider that
    	to be a sufficient number of times to say that it cranks ...
    	The best part is that [for the most part] Paul has gotten away
    	from that "wimp voice" he seems to love to use for all the radio
    	hits ["Let's Put the 'X' in Sex", etc.].  Paul and Gene have
    	resorted to a more "gravelly" vocal style [not that Gene really
    	has a choice, though!!] which suits the music, and what I con-
    	sider to be the "real" KISS.
    
    							GTI
19.196exJUPITR::WCLUETTThere's no crying in BASEBALL!!!Thu Nov 05 1992 14:023
    Good - Loud Show with mucho Pyro... Saw them about a month ago...
    
    /w
19.197Revenge is sweetCOMET::FRISBYAKeep the FaithThu Nov 05 1992 16:567
    KISS tickets go on sale tommorrow.  Opening acts are GReat White and
    Trixter.
                      Dec 6th at McNichols Arena.....
    
     Friz
    
           
19.198Dreaded Ace Frehley Syndrome comes to AXISCAVLRY::BUCKI once was blind but now I see the lightFri Nov 20 1992 18:528
    I thought there was a Frehley's Comet note in this conf...guess not...
    
    
    So, is anyone from HM goin to Axis tonight to see the man who put the
    DAFS in DAFS, Ace Frehley??
    
    
    Curious, I'm thinking of heading in there...
19.199BUSY::ESCOBAROne Man's Fun Is Another's HellFri Nov 20 1992 19:347
    
    Well Buck if you head off to Axis to see Ace... you won't be seein'
    him.
    
    He's playin' at Narcissis.
    
    
19.200200 repliez!POWDML::BUCKLEYLet the light surroundedTue Jan 05 1993 15:0311
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I got a rock!
19.2012,000 ManCSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersThu Jan 14 1993 00:216
    There's a song on 'Dynasty' called '2,000 Man' and it was written
    by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards.  Was this song done by the Rolling
    Stones or did they sell it new to KISS?
    
    Jim
    
19.202NEWOA::DALLISONG string tuned to AThu Jan 14 1993 05:161
    Was that the price of the song or the title ? ;)
19.203It's so very lonely... you're 2000 light years from homeMETALX::SWANSONNo ExitThu Jan 14 1993 14:432
    Rolling Stones have a song called "2000 Light Years From Home".  Don't
    know about 2000 Man....
19.204ALIVE IIICSLALL::PATHIAKISCaptain of the Elsinore HosersThu Jan 21 1993 00:225
    I heard that ALIVE III is going to be released in a week or two.
    Has anyone else heard this?
    
    Jim
    
19.205Recorded at EM Loews?BOVES::FENNELLWell that's 1 for you and 2 for meThu Jan 21 1993 03:317
I know I'll catch hell from buck for this but...

Speaking of tar pits...

Tim
    

19.206KDX200::ROBRMorning comes too early...Thu Jan 21 1993 06:184
    
    yep, i heard the same rumor a while back.
    
    
19.207POWDML::BUCKLEYI am a Zipperhead!Fri Jan 29 1993 17:061
    KIZZ Alive III will be released in at the end of next month!
19.208BUSY::ESCOBARWherever I May RoamFri Jan 29 1993 17:535
    
    Yuk.
    
    LIve video too.
    
19.209Old stuff would be nice...BOVES::FENNELLLiving life by the dropFri Jan 29 1993 18:042
I've seen some catalogs with Alive I, Destroyer Vintage video...  I think
it was pro-cam too...
19.210blekGOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Fri Jan 29 1993 18:563
    Sounds like it'll be heave city...
    
    gh
19.211BOVES::FENNELLLiving life by the dropFri Jan 29 1993 19:151
Another one hits the tar pits
19.212XCUSME::JENNISONBlack DiamondFri Feb 05 1993 14:355
    YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA KIZZ! ALright!
    
    I LOVE KIZZ and you Muffin... ;)
    
    
19.213but do you love to KIZZ Muffin?FRETZ::HEISERsecond verse, same as the firstFri Feb 05 1993 14:361
    
19.214XCUSME::JENNISONBlack DiamondFri Feb 05 1993 14:561
    He is a great kizzer...
19.215GOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Fri Feb 05 1993 15:224
    Who's doing that version of "Come on and Love me" that I keep hearing
    on the radio lately.  Is it them or did someone else cover it?
    
    gh
19.2167892::SLABOUNTYPeter Horton Hears a WhoFri Feb 05 1993 15:235
    
    	Wasn't that one of the Skid Row covers?
    
    							GTI
    
19.217POWDML::BUCKLEYRide the CycloneFri Feb 05 1993 15:274
    Wasn't there a KIZZ album released a while back that was all cover
    tunes??  I rememebr hearing Nirvava doing a ROOLIN version of
    KIZZ' Do You Love Me?  Not heard Come on and Love me, but I bet it
    is from the same lp...
19.218is is the skids...BINKLY::MULHOLLENheaded west into the black...Fri Feb 05 1993 15:4711
    
    	'come on and love me' is on skid rows outrageously priced
    	ep titled 'b-side ourselves'....  this came out well before
    	the holidays hit.  remember when hendix's 'little wing' was
    	getting a ton of airplay...?  
    
    	fwiw - i was surprised that they released 'come on and love me'
    	since they usually always cover 'cold gin' in concert...
    
    	/b
    
19.219GOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Fri Feb 05 1993 16:569
    Thanks, I bet that's who it is (Skidrow).
    
>      	fwiw - i was surprised that they released 'come on and love me'
>    	since they usually always cover 'cold gin' in concert...
    
    They didn't when I saw them last year.  The only cover they did that
    night was The Ramones' Psychotherepy...
    
    gh
19.220also some aerosmith in worcester...BINKLY::MULHOLLENheaded west into the black...Fri Feb 05 1993 17:445
    
    and 'train kept rolling' by aerosmith if you saw them at the 
    worcester aud...
    
    /b
19.221fyiFRETZ::HEISERserving Barney at The Roadkill CafeWed Apr 07 1993 18:4233
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Subject: Ex-KISS drummer settles tabloid suit
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 93 15:56:06 PDT

	LOS ANGELES (UPI) -- Peter Criss, former drummer of the '70s rock band
Kiss, settled his lawsuit Tuesday against the Star tabloid for
publishing stories claiming he was a homeless alcoholic.
	Criss's attorney, Antony Stuart, said the settlement was reached
shortly before attorneys were to give opening statements to the Los
Angeles Superior Court jury.
	The terms of the settlement were confidential, but Stewart said Criss
``is ecstatic about the settlement.''
	He said the Star must pay the damages within 10 days. Star attorneys
were not immediately available for comment.
	Stuart said the stories, published in January 1991, depicted Criss as
a ``homeless bum'' who had been aided by sitcom stars Roseanne and Tom
Arnold.
	Stuart said the homeless man was not Criss, but the magazine
published the stories anyway.
	Criss, meanwhile, has been living with his wife and daughter in their
Redondo Beach home and recording with ``Criss,'' his new band.
	Stuart said in the case he planned to present to the jury and Judge
Richard Hubbel, he would have shown the Star's and other tabloids' 
``anonymous sources'' often are reporters for competing tabloids who
sell tips they are unable to get published in their own magazines.
	Celebrities routinely complain about outrageous stories published in
weekly tabloids, but few go to court. The Arnolds received a settlement
last year from the National Enquirer, which printed a story claiming
they had severely damaged a rented house, leaving it a ``pig sty.''
19.222A new cardboard house...BOVES::FENNELLBack to the LightWed Apr 07 1993 19:343
I wonder what he settled for?

TIm
19.223GOES11::G_HOUSEThatsWhenIreachedForMyRevolverWed Apr 07 1993 19:441
    A new coat and a pair of socks...
19.224hope this helpsFRETZ::HEISERserving Barney at The Roadkill CafeWed Apr 07 1993 20:452
    They settled for a guest appearance in the In Living Color skit "This
    Old Box."
19.225ALIVE III?TERPS::KMOOREKevin Moore - Defense Agencies GroupMon Apr 26 1993 13:054
I heard a "live" KISS song on 103.1, the Underground, yesterday.  24 hours later
and I can't remember if it was Domino or Spit.  Does that mean Alive III is right
around the corner?  The station went right into another song so I didn't get a
chance to hear what the cut was off of.
19.226that's suppoed to be SLATED!POWDML::BUCKLEYSleeping Beauty Land Theme ParkMon Apr 26 1993 14:534
    Yeah, Alive III is clates for a June release.
    
    
    Hey, do you play in DT by any chance?  ;')
19.227TERPS::KMOOREKevin Moore - Defense Agencies GroupTue Apr 27 1993 12:143
Shhhhhhhh.....

DEC is only my side job...sort of like a hobby in my spare time ;-).  
19.228Could be lewdCADSYS::FENNELLFluffy pillows - now soiledTue Jul 06 1993 14:573
Howard Stern will interview Gene and Paul this weekend on E.  (The
Entertainment Channel).  It should be on this Friday night at 10 if I
remember right.
19.229XCUSME::JENNISONMake You a BelieverTue Jul 06 1993 19:433
    
    
    COOL!!!!
19.230GOES11::G_HOUSESon of SpamTue Jul 06 1993 20:131
    Now there's about a perfect match for ya...
19.231Miny Alive 3 review....MYOSPY::D_SWEENEYFri Jul 16 1993 14:259
    
    Just got the Kiss Alive 3 CD last week and must say that it cranks!!
    They have a little bit of everything on this one.  From there beginings
    with Deuce to Detriot Rock City to I was made for Loving you to there 
    last hit Domino.   The CD has 16 songs all told and totals out to
    around 66 minutes of music.  No real big drum solos or quitar solos
    like past Kiss Alive albums.   If your a Kiss fan you'll liek this CD.
    
       Dan
19.232GOES11::G_HOUSESon of SpamFri Jul 16 1993 16:073
>No real big drum solos or quitar solos
    
    Thank goodness, what an utter waste of tape/disc space.
19.233TRACTR::JENNISONShot Through The HeartFri Jul 16 1993 18:014
    
    I love it! Great CD!
    
    SueJ
19.234Believe itCOMPLX::FERRISThu Aug 12 1993 19:5310
    
    
    I heard an intresting report about a Kiss tribute album that is due
    out in early 94. The report listed all the groups that would be doing
    Kiss songs. Among them Megadeth, Nine Inch Nails, The Lemonheads and
    get this, Garth Brooks being backed by Kiss themselves. I can't remem-
    ber others that were mentioned. Anyway, just an fyi
    
                                                          mike
    
19.235GOES11::G_HOUSEEee-i-eee-i-ohThu Aug 12 1993 20:021
    I thought there was already an album like that out?
19.236TRACTR::JENNISONWanted Dead Or AliveThu Aug 12 1993 20:137
    
    
    Cool!!!! Cant wait !
    
    Kizz!
    
    SueJ
19.237On second thought, I wouldn't buy any GBPATE::SCHIAVONEDon't ever try to put me down!Mon Aug 16 1993 12:099
>    get this, Garth Brooks being backed by Kiss themselves. I can't remem-
>    ber others that were mentioned. Anyway, just an fyi

	E-E-E-E-E-EXCELLENT, I 	think I'll wait until I can pick up a used
	copy %^)

	/Cap'n Quad    

19.238I can't listen to them after Rock&Roll OverCADSYS::FENNELLgeek usaWed Jan 26 1994 12:236
Heard a live version of Strutter on the radio this weekend.  Is that on the
AliveIII album?  I thought it sounded horrible compared to AliveI.

Kind of Lounge Lizard/Disco like...  

Tim
19.239GOES11::HOUSELike a cat caught in a vacuumWed Jan 26 1994 12:465
    Probably from their last umm..."club" tour.
    
    "Thank you all for coming out to the Holiday Inn tonight!  We're Kiss
     and we've got a great show for YOU!"
     
19.240WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_B&amp;B_And_A_Little_Weed.Wed Jan 26 1994 13:034
    "And don't forget,Folks.Tonights Drink Special is Cold Gin.
    Gene will be switching between the Bass and Piano This Evening.
    Please note the"Contribution Glass"Atop the Piano.Thank You..
    And now heres one you might remember...."
19.241And now we'd like to do something called: JAcob's LADderCADSYS::FENNELLgeek usaWed Jan 26 1994 16:103
Sort of like Geddy's intro to Jacob's Ladder on Exit Stage Left by Rush...

Tim 
19.242exCOMET::VERMETTECNo expects the Spanish InquistionSat Jan 29 1994 02:5210
    HEY! I resemble that remark!
    
    But the live version is really cool ... too bad they took Passage to
    Bangkok off the CD. La Villa ... is cool too.
    and what about ..... 
    
    sorry, I got carried away.
    
    chris
    
19.243I dig Ace but...HOTLNE::LUCHTSecuring the WorldFri Jul 22 1994 14:1810
    
    
        I had to throw this in:  has anyone seen a recent
    picture of Ace Frehley?  Man, this guy's in BAD SHAPE!!!
    I bet you could take his blood sample, dry it out, smoke
    it, and get baked.
    
    Aging,
    Kev --
    
19.244Another_One???!~WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One Who Missed_OutFri Jul 22 1994 14:286
    Nothing A_Little Plastic_Surgery Wouldn't Fix.  
    I think Kiss has Another Greatest_Hits Thang Called"Kiss My Ass".
    It was Recently Re_Leased.
    
    
                Crazy_Rocket_Ride_Al
19.245BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYAsk for a mine and I'll give you the shaft.Fri Jul 22 1994 15:0810
    
    	That album is a "tribute" album of other bands doing KISS
    	songs.
    
    	"Deuce" - Lenny Kravitz
    
    	etc.
    
    							GTI
    
19.246ALFAS::FENNELLFarewell AyrtonFri Jul 22 1994 15:3412
Interesting article in today's Boton Globe on the tribute album.  Gene Simmons
says they give lots of money to charity but don't necessarily advertise it.  He
did offer to take some of Eddie Vedder's money to ease Eddie's troubled
conscience about being rich.

He also said that Marlboro offered to sponsor their latest tour.  Even though
that would have covered all their costs, Gene turned them down.  He didn't like
being associated with tobacco.  He felt if Kizz induced kids to start smoking
he'd feel too guilty...  Geez, what is this a conscience?  Anyway if this is
true I respect him a little more.

Tim
19.247How typical...HOTLNE::LUCHTCool weather, stronger beerFri Aug 26 1994 10:3326
    
         Has anyone seen the cover picture on the Kiss My Ass
    tribute thing?  The family with KISS makeup on sitting
    around a table.  Notice that Ace's makeup thing ain't
    there.  Instead, there's some other version (of what, I
    don't know).
         I caught Ace talking to that idiot Liz Wild (sp?) on
    WAAF yesterday afternoon.  He was quick to inform the
    listening public that Gene and Paul didn't use Ace's face
    makeup on the cover because they would have had to dish
    some cash out his way!  Also, notice that every song on
    the tribute thing are the tunes that Ace didn't write on.
    Apparently, Ace received many a call from bands that 
    wanted to cover one of his tunes, or one that his name
    appeared on as a co-writer.  However, Paul and Gene felt
    that Ace's contribution as a co-founder and guitarist 
    didn't amount to snot.  Or does it have to do with $$$?
    
    Figure it out, Ace got screwed.
    
    Look for a new Ace Frehley solo thing early '95.  (Yes, 
    a label picked him up.  Again.)
    
    Kev --
    
    
19.248ALFAS::FENNELLReady to crash &amp; burnFri Aug 26 1994 11:015
Most of Ace's problems are self-induced from what I've heard.  I think if he's
right about the royalty thing, that stinks, but what songs would Ace have
written?  Rocket Ride?  Come on...

Tim
19.249POWDML::BUCKLEYVenimus, Vidimus, CoastimusFri Aug 26 1994 11:215
    some Ace Frehley compositions with Kiss:
    
    Cold Gin
    Parasite
    
19.250HOTLNE::LUCHTCool weather, stronger beerFri Aug 26 1994 11:273
    
    Shock Me
    
19.251BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Tue Mar 28 1995 14:106
    
    	Is "Unmasked" their worst album?
    
    	After listening to it, I'm inclined to say "Yes", but I haven't
    	heard everything they've done.
    
19.252You_Show_Us_Every_Thang_You_GotWMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Likes_To_Ramble.Tue Mar 28 1995 14:233
    All ya Need is"Destroyer"and"KIZZ Alive I"and"II"..
    
       Crazy_Srutter_Al
19.253TRACTR::JENNISONWanted Dead OR AliveTue Mar 28 1995 15:115
    KiZZ RulZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
    
    SueJ
    
    Wheres Muffin.?
19.254METALX::SWANSONRide The LightningTue Mar 28 1995 16:355
  >  All ya Need is"Destroyer"and"KIZZ Alive I"and"II"..
    
    Those are the only Kiss albums I have!  (on vinyl)
    
    
19.255BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Tue Mar 28 1995 17:138
    
    	Actually, "Double Platinum" seems to be the ultimate KISS album
    	if you only want to buy 1 ... it's got most of the good stuff
    	up to [insert whatever album here].
    
    	But I'm planning on buying them all eventually ... picked up a
    	couple a week or 2 ago for $9 each on sale.
    
19.256very bad pores!POOKY::OROURKESLEEP...I read about that onceTue Mar 28 1995 17:184
    
    They may 'rool' but pity their poor skin! :^)
    
    /jen
19.257Kizz are utter shiteOUTSRC::HEISERHoshia Nah,Baruch Haba B'shem AdonaiTue Mar 28 1995 17:211
19.258For_That_Clean_Skin_FeelWMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Likes_To_Ramble.Tue Mar 28 1995 17:322
    Yeah Jen...Maybe they Should have used Noxzema.
    
19.259CHEFS::GEORGEMCannibalise LegalbisWed Mar 29 1995 05:193
re .257

Well get out of their f*****g topic then.
19.260PEKING::PERKINSPIt only hurts if you surviveWed Mar 29 1995 05:233
    
    Hey Shawn, how many have you accumulated so far?  I think I have about
    23.
19.261BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Wed Mar 29 1995 10:275
    
    	I only have 6 so far.
    
    	It's a start!!
    
19.262do yourselfOUTSRC::HEISERHoshia Nah,Baruch Haba B'shem AdonaiWed Mar 29 1995 13:181
19.263METALX::SWANSONRide The LightningWed Mar 29 1995 14:244
    re: .259  CHEFS::GEORGEM
    
    Nice P_N!  :')
    
19.264SUBURB::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitThu Apr 06 1995 08:513
    Dynasty is my favourite. Especially the Bee Gees inspired "I was made
    for Loving you" and "Sure know something".
    
19.265WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MNY YANKEES 1995 WORLD CHAMPS!!!!!Wed Apr 19 1995 14:238
    
    
          Help with a disagreement between me and a Coworker will ya?
    
    Who is the lead Singer of Kiss?
    
    
    thanks Chap
19.266BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Wed Apr 19 1995 14:329
    
    	Paul Stanley, mostly.
    
    	But Gene and Ace did some of the vocals also.  And I wouldn't
    	doubt that Peter Chriss did a couple songs [maybe "Beth"?].
    
    	Ace is out of the band, so he's not doing any of their vocals
    	now.
    
19.267KDX200::ROBRI've heard the lions hunting in the Serengeti nightWed Apr 19 1995 15:013
    
    but for all practical purposes, paul did 95% of the vocals.
    
19.268WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MNY YANKEES 1995 WORLD CHAMPS!!!!!Wed Apr 19 1995 15:058
    
    
       Thanks guys. Proved my point exactly.
    
    I figured Gene MIGHT_have done 20% if that?
    
    
    Chap
19.269Paul/Gene 60%/40%RDGENG::GREIDHook.....in....mouth!Thu Apr 20 1995 05:2620
    Hey, far be it from me to nit pick about this.... 8-)
    
    Go on, nit pick away....
    
    Alright then..
    
    I seem to recall that for every Kiss album, Gene has been the main
    singer on at least 4 songs, sometimes more if the album as in recent
    times has had more than 10 songs on it. Also there have been a number
    of duets between Paul and Gene although not many.
    
    I think Paul has the better voice but Genes songs I tend to enjoy more,
    and I on every new Kiss album I tend listen out for his first.
    
    Stopped nit picking now....
    
    Yes, thank you, nuff said...
    
    
    Giles.
19.270WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Likes_To_Ramble.Thu Apr 20 1995 08:312
    This Isn't Nit_Pickin.
    I Call it The Truth!!!
19.271Paul StanleySUBSYS::MSOUCYThu Apr 20 1995 11:076
    
    Paul Stanley, with some singing by Gene Simmons and/or Ace Frehley (or
    was he just backup? Been a long time since I saw 'em (with makeup!!)).
    
    Mike
    
19.272ICS::snobrd.pko.dec.com::whitmanThu Apr 20 1995 14:347


Gene does sing quite the bit.. but Paul Stanley is the "Lead" 
singer.

Whit-
19.273TRACTR::JENNISONThe Angel Opens Her EyesThu Apr 20 1995 15:291
    AGREED!
19.274ICS::snobrd.pko.dec.com::whitmanThu Apr 20 1995 15:496


why thank you..

;')
19.275TRACTR::JENNISONThe Angel Opens Her EyesThu Apr 20 1995 16:191
    Anytime Baby! ;}
19.276CHEFS::PERKINSPIt only hurts if you surviveFri Apr 21 1995 07:266
    
    I couldn't have said it better Giles.
    
    Gene's solo album is still one of my all time favourites.
    
    Flip
19.277POWDML::BUCKLEYFri Apr 21 1995 11:075
    Radioactive is a cool song, but overall I thought Gene's solo lp was
    naff.  "When you wish upon a star?"  gimme a freakin break!
    
    Probably the BEST album overall was Paul's, but I like the songs on
    Ace's better.  New York Groove rocks!
19.278XCUSME::JENNISONThe Angel Opens Her EyesFri Apr 21 1995 11:471
    New York Groove ROCKS!
19.279CHEFS::PERKINSPIt only hurts if you surviveFri Apr 21 1995 12:524
    
    Gene's album appeals to me because of the humour not for musical merit.
    
    
19.280 SUBURB::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitFri Apr 21 1995 13:539
    Anyone got the "oh,no! It`s a Kiss covers album!"?
    
    It`s very good. Especially the Coffin Break (er,or is it Coffin Nails)
    version of Beth. Very fast and very punk raaawk. I think Nirvana do
    a cover version of some song or other. (It`s been a while since I
    played it).
    
    
    
19.281BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Fri Apr 21 1995 14:313
    
    	Is that "Kiss My *ss"?
    
19.282SUBURB::COOKSHalf Man,Half BiscuitFri Apr 21 1995 15:018
    Nope. That`s a new one,I think.
    
    This one came out a few years ago (it must of been,as I`ve got it on
    vinyl). Approx 91/92 ish. 
    
    The gatefold sleeve is a picture of loads of Kiss memorabilia,like
    dolls and lunch boxes etc.
    
19.283XCUSME::JENNISONThe Angel Opens Her EyesFri Apr 21 1995 15:311
    SHAAAAA Its Kizz My A$$
19.284FORMER KISS BOYS JAMMIN OTTAWA TONIGHT...KDCA03::CDCUP_TORRENFri Jul 07 1995 13:516
    
    	Tonight, in Ottawa at Barrymore's, The Bad Boys of Kiss,
    Ace Freley and Peter Criss are playing...For anyone interested or
    in the area...
    
    Bobby T
19.285BRAT::JENNISONGuess I Was Born To Be BadFri Jul 07 1995 15:383
    Get me on a plane! !
    
    SueJ 8(
19.286BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Wed Jul 19 1995 11:157
    
    	Flip, I'm making progress on the KISS stuff ... bought all 4
    	"solo" albums last night, bringing my KISS total to 10, and 1
    	on order from the CD club.
    
    	What do I have left, 15-20 or so?  8^)
    
19.287how many kiss alives?SUBSYS::MSOUCYWed Jul 19 1995 13:317
    
    I picked up (through Columbia House) Smashes, Thrashes, and other hits
    or something along those lines. It's ok. I wish I had Kiss Alive I &
    II, haven't heard how 3 sounds (is there one?).
    
    Metal Mike
    
19.288BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Wed Jul 19 1995 14:393
    
    	Yes, there's a 3.
    
19.289HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meWed Jul 19 1995 17:144
There's a KISS festival somewhere in Rhode Island this weekend.  Both Gene and
Paul are supposed to be there.

Tim
19.290BOSTONABACUS::JENNISONGuess I Was Born To Be BadWed Jul 19 1995 17:5419
    
    
    
    
    They will be in detroit this weekend. 
    There a KIZZ convention on July 29th in Boston.  
	
    A KIZZ tribute band will perform and all of the kizz members will be
    there. They will actually interact with the fans at Q & A sessions,
    which follow drum and guitar clinics by Eric Singer and Bruce Kulick.
    
    They will also take requests at an acoustic performance. There will be
    no set lists at all. 
    
    There will be kizz merchandise and displays of all of the bands
    costumes and all that good stuff!
    
    SueJ
    
19.291HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meWed Jul 19 1995 18:517
>>    which follow drum and guitar clinics by Eric Singer and Bruce Kulick.

Who's giving the clinics?

Seriously - where in Boston?

Tim
19.292All the Info from the Kiss Convention home page HOTLNE::DEROSIERWed Jul 19 1995 22:57193
You wanted it, you got it!

The 1995-96 WORLDWIDE KISS CONVENTIONS!!! It's coming...! 

     Before we get into the details, I thought you might like to know that the 
guys have recently gotten back from their Japanese/Australian sold out tours 
and immediately started planning the first AUTHORIZED and OFFICIAL KISS 
CONVENTIONS!!!

     While in Australia, during their off days, the guys tried the KISS 
CONVENTIONS on every single city of their Aussie tour. Needless to say, they 
were enormously successful and a good time was had by all!

Because of that, the guys have decided to bring the KISS CONVENTIONS direct to 
you!!!


ALL THE FACTS YOU NEED TO KNOW!!!

 So... what goes on at the CONVENTION?
 Click to view the flyer/poster for the KISS CONVENTIONS
 The Specifics...
 Answers to some common questions...
 Dealer Tables...
 The Dates...


A FULL 12 HOUR DAY OF KISS MAYHEN!!!

Each convention will feature the band live in a Question & Answer session and 
in an unplugged performance, playing requests from the audience. The Australian
session included songs unheard live for years, including the likes of "A World 
Without Heroes" from "Music From the Elder" and "Shandi" from "Unmasked." Each 
event may last OVER TWO HOURS!

KISS SYMPOSIUM - different guests possible in various cities. In LA - tentative
is Kenny Kerner (who co produced our first two albums), Michael James Jackson 
(who produced CREATURES & LICK IT UP), Gerri Miller, editor of Metal Edge and 
tons more.

KISS will be available at the end of the KISS CONVENTION to do an AUTOGRAPH 
SESSION. The band will endeavor to sign everyone's choice of KISS paraphernalia.

Also featured at each convention will be a veritable KISS museum, including 20 
fully dressed mannequins displaying the history of KISS costumes. 20 years of 
RARE KISS MEMORABILIA from the band's private collections:

   A KISS MUSEUM!!!
   Original album cover art!
   Original song lyrics written on hotel stationary!
   Original comic book art from KISSNATION!
   Original photos and concert posters!
   RARE AND UNSEEN VIDEO FOOTAGE!!!!
   and TONS MORE!!!

Bruce Kulick will host a hands-on guitar clinic and Eric Singer will host a 
hands-on drum clinic at each show. Both complete with surprise giveaways...

Each convention will feature one of the legendary KISS Tribute bands, complete 
with full makeup, costumes, and as much pyro effects as each venue will allow.

Tons of giveaways... for instance, in LA, there will be 2,000 free tickets to 
one of the PREMIER COMEDY CLUBS...tickets to be printed up with "GUESTS OF KISS
' -- using the KISS LOGO...with our compliments.

And, of course, there'll be tons of dealers offering tons of KISS collectibles 
for tons of money. You won't be able to say no!

THERE ARE ONLY THREE WAYS TO OF GETTING TICKETS.

NOW Available... Mail Checks/Money Orders to:
Make checks out to:
KISS Conventions
PO Box 15097
Beverly Hills, CA 90210

Tickets are $100.00 each.

ALSO, PLEASE NOTE; THIS WILL BE A LIMITED CAPACITY EVENT, SO FIRST COME, FIRST
SERVED.

 1. No orders will be taken before MAY 1st, 1995... Do not call before then.
 2. AFTER MAY 1st, call 1-800-905-KISS (5477). The same number you dial to 
    order "Kisstory."
 3. You will be told the city/location of the nearest KISS CONVENTION. You will
    be told the hotel phone number and you will be responsible for making your 
    own way there and for any other arrangements you with to make with the 
    hotel.
 4. Bring proof of your identity to the door and you're in. THERE WILL BE NO 
    TICKETS SENT TO YOU.
    This will help prevent bootlegging.
 5. YOU CAN PURCHASE TICKETS AT THE DOOR. There are no guarantees, however, 
    that on the day you decide to go there will be any tickets left. Good luck.



ANSWERS TO SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS...

   YES, you may bring your CAMERA and take fotos of anything you like.
   YES, you may bring your VIDEO CAMERA and shoot anything you like. We would 
   like to ask you to turn the VIDEO CAMERAS off during the unplugged session, 
   but other than that, shoot away.
   NO, the OFFICIAL & AUTHORIZED KISS CONVENTIONS do not prevent you or anyone 
   else from getting together to honor the guys. Just please be aware that the 
   KISS LOGO, the phrases KISS CONVENTION, KISS KONVENTION, KISSCON & KISSKON 
   are trademarks and copyrights of the band, and as long as the band's rights 
   are not infringed upon, you can do whatever your heart desires.
   YES, Kisstory will be sold at the conventions. Though, what number you're 
   going to get is anyone's guess.
   YES, all areas are open in the QUESTION & ANSWER SESSION. Yes, it's okay to 
   talk about reunion tour rumors, Ace & Peter & Vinnie & Mark and anyone else.
   The reason for the Q&A is to clear up alot of rumors and innuendos that have
   existed for a long time. This will be a heart to heart with you.



KISS GRAND PRIZE GIVEAWAYS!!!


You will be automatically entered to win...

 1. A full Eric Singer PEARL DRUM KIT with ZILDJIAN CYMBALS.
 2. A Gene Simmons OUNISHER bass guitar.
 3. A Bruce Kulick ESP guitar.
 4. A Paul Stanley IBANEZ PS-10 LTD guitar.


COMPLIMENTS OF KISS, fans who have amassed AUTHORIZED KISS memorabilia through 
the years, are welcome to BUY, SELL & TRADE their stuff at the Conventions and 
will be given FREE TABLES, as long as there is room/supply available.

Those of you who want to BUY, SELL & TRADE, fax Vivien Singer 519-641-3750.


CONVENTION DATES/CITIES


   JULY 22 - Detroit, MI
   Cobo Hall Exh. Center
   One Washington Blvd
   Detroit, MI 48226
   313-877-8777

   JULY 23 - Cleveland, OH
   Sheraton City Centre
   777 St. Claire Avenue
   Cleveland, OH 44114
   216-771-7600

   JULY 25 - Toronto, ON
   Hilton Int'l
   145 Richmond Street W
   Toronto, ON M5H 2L2
   416-869-3456

   JULY 27 - Montreal, PQ
   Le Chateau Champlain
   1 Place du Canada
   1050 West Le Gauchetiere
   Montreal, PQ H3B 4C8
   514-878-9000

   JULY 29 - Boston, MA
   Westin Copley Place
   10 Huntington Ave.
   Boston, MA 02116
   617-262-9600

   JULY 30 - New York, NY
   Roseland Ballroom
   239 West 52nd Street
   New York, NY 10019
   212-247-0200

   AUG 1 - Pittsburgh, PA
   Expo-Mart
   105 Mall Blvd
   Monroeville, PA 15146
   412-856-8100


Kindly make your own reservations and travel plans.
Please call the hotels directly for directions and any other info you might 
need.

KINDLY USE 1-800-905-KISS only... 
TO ORDER KISS CONVENTION TIX and KISSTORY...

SEE YOU AT THE CONVENTIONS!



19.293HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meThu Jul 20 1995 11:471
$100!  They should quit touring and just do conventions
19.294KIZZ HEAVEN!POWDML::BUCKLEYYou ain't seen nuthin yetThu Jul 20 1995 17:151
    
19.295ABACUS::JENNISONGuess I Was Born To Be BadThu Jul 20 1995 18:121
    Theres my micky!
19.296BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Fri Jul 21 1995 11:336
    
    	Listened to Paul Stanley's album yesterday ... not bad.  Sounds
    	like a laid-back KISS album, basically.
    
    	Bruce Kulick plays guitar, and Carmine Appice plays some drums.
    
19.297BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Fri Jul 21 1995 11:3720
    
    	Listened to most of Gene Simmons' album today ... better than
    	Paul's.  "When You Wish Upon a Star" [which is the last song on
    	the CD, but I HAD to hear it 1st!!] is pretty good, considering
    	that Gene doesn't have the best voice in the world.
    
    	Strange that Gene doesn't play bass on this one ... he plays
    	some of the guitars, electric and acoustic.
    
    	And his guest list is a veritable "who's who" of the enterta-
    	ment business, including:
    
    	Kate Sagal ["Married with Children", and also has her own album]
    	Rick Nielsen [Cheap Trick]
    	Cher
    	Janis Ian
    	Helen Reddy
    
    	If I remember I'll bring it in and enter 'em all.
    
19.298KISS = Kids In Service to Satan 8^)POWDML::BUCKLEYYou ain't seen nuthin yetFri Jul 21 1995 11:4431
    My impressions of the KIZZ Solo lp's:
    
    Paul's -- Most "Kiss sounding" of the 4, and ties for best album with
     		ACE's imvho.  Some really great tunes here.
    
    ACE's -- great departure album.  The singing isn't all half bad, but
    		the tunes are KILLER!  And ACE's players can't be beat ... 
    		top notch!
    
    Gene's -- Radioactive was always such a killer tune, but after that I
    		felt the album lost direction and balls.  Even with the help 
    		of people like Joe Perry, Rick Nielson, etc., it just doesn't 
    		rock like you'd expect it to.  I though this would have been 
    		an album full of "God of Thunder"-type tunez.
    
    Peter's -- I think this solo album is the reason they booted him from
    		the band! 8^)  actually, he was the first to leave, and
    		is the music on this album is any indication of what he was
    		actually into listening to, it's no surprise why he left!
    
    While we're on the subject --
    
    
    			BUCK'S TOP 5 FAV KIZZ ALBUMS
    			============================
    
    1) Rock n Roll Over
    2) Alive I
    3) Hotter than Hell 
    4) Love Gun
    5) Dressed to Kill
19.299WMOIS::MAZURKASon_of_A_Wicked_Good_TimeFri Jul 21 1995 11:581
    No DeStRoYeR,Buck???
19.300KIZZ SNARFPOWDML::BUCKLEYYou ain't seen nuthin yetFri Jul 21 1995 12:071
    Maybe I'd replace Love Gun with Destroyer...
19.301HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meFri Jul 21 1995 12:4026
I saw the Destroyer tour...  They actually did Beth (eeww!)

Destroyer was the beginning of the end of KISS for me...  I thought Alive I
was the greatest and Destroyer was just too fancy.

The sound was so loud you had to put your hands around your mouth and yell into
the ear of the person sitting next to you to be heard.  They had to play about
30 seconds of a song so you'd know which one it was.  The sound system was
definitely driven to 11...  Paul even used most of the between song stuff from
Alive I...  Sort of like a Mystic Powers show.  (when keith rattled off the
famous sweaty teddy quote from Double Live Gonzo)

And we were sitting in the back of the Montreal Forum a really big place.

The fire marshall must have been asleep when they described the show because
I have never seen some much flash power/flames/explosions.  The next time
I saw them they were toned down quite a bit

I have pictures from the Love Gun Tour...  I brought a 35mm camera and a
80-200mm lens and could zoom in on part of the stage even from the other end of
the forum.  If I had access to a scanner they'd be pretty cool to scan in.

I've got killer pictures of Rush from the 3rd row with the same camera on
the Permanent Waves tour.

TIm
19.302BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Mon Aug 14 1995 14:0712
    
    	I found most of the KISS catalog in the bargain bin at Newbury
    	Comics, so I bought 6 more ... I'm up to 17 now.
    
    	The self-titled album has to be their best, not counting greatest
    	hits packages.  5 out of the 10 songs are big hits for them.
    
    	I still have to buy the "Alive" albums [all 3], "Smashes ...",
    	"Animalize", "The Elder" and a couple others [I believe].
    
    	Does anyone have a discography?
    
19.303HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meMon Aug 14 1995 14:122
I saw one in one of the Kiss webpages on yahoo.com

19.304BRAT::JENNISONGuess I Was Born To Be BadMon Aug 14 1995 14:161
    Hey man,,, its on the internet..........
19.305POWDML::BUCKLEYgive em the boot!Mon Aug 14 1995 14:193
    Shawn,
    
    I have "Smashes...", want it?  I never listen to it!!
19.306POWDML::BUCKLEYgive em the boot!Mon Aug 14 1995 14:2221
    Lets see if we can create a KISSography here...
    
    Kiss
    Hotter Than Hell
    Dressed To Kill
    Alive 
    Destroyer
    Rock n Roll Over
    Love Gun
    Alive II
    Double Platinum
    Solo Albums --
    	Gene
    	Paul
    	Ace
    	Peter
    Unmasked
    
    (then it gets foggy for me, I lost interest.  I know there is Creatures
    of the Night, and Alive III left to go, but...  ?!?!?)
    
19.307kiss info from the netPOOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartMon Aug 14 1995 14:404472
KISSARMY FAQ FILE (PART 3 OF 5)
CS.UWP.EDU ARCHIVE DATE 09-AUGUST-1994  
VERSION 2.0


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*  *     *    *   *     *   *      *   *              By Alex Carranza,
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*  *  *   *   *   *    *   *      *   *                  and Mark Kennedy.

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	This discography was based on the earlier versions 1.0-1.3 of the
	KISSARMY discographies by Andreas Hjarpne and on a different 
	discography written by Mark Kennedy. The two versions were merged, 
	modified and updated by Alex Carranza.

	Index:

	1) Album ratings: These ratings were taken from the 15 October, 1993
	   issue of Goldmine magazine. Each of the original members rated the
	   albums they worked on. These were combined with the results of
	   a poll of KISSARMY members taken by David Clayton Tyson in February
	   of 1994. The results were averaged and offer a somewhat useful
	   basis for determining how good or bad each album is. Rating goes
	   from 0 stars to worst to 5 stars for best.

	2) RIAA: It states current album sales certification by the Recording
	   Industry Association of America. Gold signifies sales of 500,000
	   units and Platinum sales of 1,000,000. 

	3) Billboard chart peak--pretty self explanatory, really.

	4) Track listing uses the following: "A1" to signify track number 1
	   on side A (or side one). This is used in all albums released prior
	   to 1983, when the first KISS compact disc was released. From then
	   on tracks are listed just as they appear on the CD.

	This discography is divided in the following sections:

		Section One:      KISS ALBUMS
		Section Two:      SINGLES & EPS
		Section Three:    COMPILATIONS & SOUNDTRACKS
		Section Four:     VIDEOS
		Section Five:     TRIBUTE ALBUMS
		Section Six:	  PETER CRISS DISCOGRAPHY
		Section Seven:    ACE FREHLEY DISCOGRAPHY
		Section Eight:    VINNIE VINCENT DISCOGRAPHY
		Section Nine:     MARK ST. JOHN DISCOGRAPHY
		Section Ten:      BOB AND BRUCE KULICK DISCOGRAPHIES
		Section Eleven:   ERIC SINGER DISCOGRAPHY
		Section Twelve:   OTHER KISS-RELATED RECORDS

	Please send corrections, additions or comments to the FAQ maintainer,
	Alex Carranza at <carranza@cs.unlv.edu> or <carranza@nevada.edu>.






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                        SECTION ONE: KISS ALBUMS 
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001: WICKED LESTER (*)
     -------------

  Epic/CBS (cat # N/A)                           Unreleased  1972

	A1. Sweet Ophelia                          (3.01) - BM/CW 
	A2. Keep Me Waiting                        (3.19) - PS
	A3. Love Her All I Can                     (2.37) - PS
	A4. Simple Type                            (2.35) - GS
	A5. She                                    (3.03) - GS/SC
	B1. Too Many Mondays                       (3.37) - BM/CW
	B2. In The Darkness                        (3.04) - GS/PS
	B3. When The Bell Rings                    (3.17) - GS
	B4. Molly                                  (2.27) - PS 
	B5. (We Want To) Shout It Out Loud         (2.43) - TH

  Produced by Ron Johnsen.
  Recorded at Electric Lady Studios, NYC. October, 1972.
  Engineered by Dave Wittman.

	Ron Leejack_____________________Lead and rhythm guitar/back-up
                                        vocals.
	Brooke Ostrander________________Keyboards/horn/flute/back-up vocals.
	Gene Simmons____________________Bass/lead vocals on A4, A5, B2, 
                                        B3 & B5/back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley____________________Guitar/lead vocals on A1, A2, A3,
                                        A4, B1, B2, B3 & B4/back-up vocals.
	Tony Zarella____________________Drums.
  
  Gene and Paul's early band. By the time this album was recorded, original
  guitarist and co-founder Stephen Coronel was replaced by Leejack. Tracks
  A3 and A5 were later re-recorded and released on DRESSED TO KILL (006).
  There also exists a Wicked Lester version of Goin' Blind which KISS later
  recorded and released on HOTTER THAN HELL (005).

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002: DEMO (*)
     ----

  (no record label)                            Unreleased  1973

	1. Deuce                                  (3.27) - GS
	2. Cold Gin                               (4.55) - AF
	3. Strutter                               (4.57) - PS/GS
	4. Watching You                           (3.38) - GS
	5. Black Diamond                          (3.33) - PS

  Produced and Engineered by Eddie Kramer.
  Recorded at Electric Lady Studios, NYC.  17-23 June, 1973.

	Peter Criss_______________Drums/lead vocals on 5/back-up vocals.
        Ace Frehley_______________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons______________Bass/lead vocals on 1, 2 & 4/
                                  back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley______________Rhythm and acoustic guitar/lead
                                  vocals on 3 and 5(intro)/back-up
                                  vocals.

  Original band demo which helped get Casablanca contract. Tracks 1, 2, 3,
  and 5 re-recorded and released on debut album KISS (003-004). Track 4
  later recorded for HOTTER THAN HELL (005) in August 1974.

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003: KISS
     ----

  Casablanca/Warner NBLP 9001  (US)             Released: 18 February, 1974

	A1. Strutter                              (3.10) - PS/GS
	A2. Nothin' To Lose                       (3.26) - GS
        A3. Firehouse                             (3.18) - PS
	A4. Cold Gin                              (4.21) - AF
	A5. Let Me Know                           (2.58) - PS
	B1. Deuce                                 (3.05) - GS
	B2. Love Theme From Kiss                  (2.24) - PS/GS/AF/PC
	B3. 100,000 Years                         (3.22) - PS/GS
	B4. Black Diamond                         (5.11) - PS

  Produced by Kenny Kerner and Richie Wise.
  Recorded at Bell Sound Studios, NYC.  October, 1973.
  Engineered and Mixed by Warren Dewey at Bell Sound Studios.

        Peter Criss______________Drums/lead vocals on B4/
                                 back-up vocals.
        Bruce Foster_____________Piano on A2.        
        Ace Frehley______________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons_____________Bass/lead vocals on A2, A4, A5, B1/
                                 back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley_____________Rhythm & acoustic guitar/lead vocals 
                                 on A1, A3, A5, B3, B4 (intro)/
                                 back-up vocals.
        
  Original version of album. Notice absence of track "Kissin' Time".

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004: KISS
     ----

  Casablanca/Warner NBLP 7001  (US)            Released: July, 1974
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6399-057 (Europe)
  VIP 6326, P33C-20003,  22S-1   (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-146-1/4              Re-issue July, 1985
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-146-2                CD re-issue July, 1987
  RIAA: Gold        Billboard Chart Peak: #87     Rating:  ****1/2            

	A1. Strutter                              (3.10) - PS/GS
	A2. Nothin' To Lose                       (3.26) - GS
        A3. Firehouse                             (3.18) - PS
	A4. Cold Gin                              (4.21) - AF
	A5. Let Me Know                           (2.58) - PS
        B1. Kissin' Time                          (3.52) - M&L
	B2. Deuce                                 (3.05) - GS
	B3. Love Theme From Kiss                  (2.24) - PS/GS/AF/PC
	B4. 100,000 Years                         (3.22) - PS/GS
	B5. Black Diamond                         (5.11) - PS

  Produced by Kenny Kerner and Richie Wise.
  Recorded at Bell Sound Studios, NYC.  October, 1973.
  Engineered and Mixed by Warren Dewey at Bell Sound Studios.             

        Peter Criss______________Drums/lead vocals on B1, B5/
                                 back-up vocals.
        Bruce Foster_____________Piano on A2.        
        Ace Frehley______________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons_____________Bass/lead vocals on A2, A4, A5, B1,
                                 B2/back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley_____________Rhythm & acoustic guitar/lead vocals 
                                 on A1, A3, A5, B1, B4, B5 (intro)/
                                 back-up vocals.
        
  KISS were asked to record "Kissin' Time" as a radio promo for radio station
  WSHE in FT. Lauderdale, Florida, (which was running a kissing contest at
  the time). Track was added to the album by Neil Bogart against the band's
  wishes. Early 1980s PolyGram re-issues replace studio version of "Nothin' 
  To Lose" with live one from ALIVE! (007). 

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005: HOTTER THAN HELL  
     ----------------  

  Casablanca/Warner NBLP 7006  (US)            Released: 22 October, 1974
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6399-058  (Europe)
  VIP 6340, P33C-20004, 22S-2  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-147-1/4              Re-issue July, 1985 
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-147-2                CD re-issue July, 1987 
  RIAA: Gold        Billboard Chart Peak: #100    Rating:  ***
 
	A1. Got To Choose                         (3.52) - PS
	A2. Parasite                              (3.01) - AF
	A3. Goin' Blind                           (3.34) - GS/SC
	A4. Hotter Than Hell                      (3.30) - PS
	A5. Let Me Go, Rock 'N Roll               (2.16) - PS/GS
	B1. All The Way                           (3.17) - GS
	B2. Watchin' You                          (3.45) - GS
	B3. Mainline                              (3.50) - PS
	B4. Comin' Home                           (2.37) - PS/AF
	B5. Strange Ways                          (3.17) - AF

  Produced by Kenny Kerner and Richie Wise.
  Recorded at The Village Recorder Studios, LA.  August, 1974.
  Engineered and Mixed by Warren Dewey at The Village Recorder.

        Peter Criss______________Drums/lead vocals on B3 & B5/
                                 back-up vocals.
        Ace Frehley______________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons_____________Bass/lead vocals on A2, A3, A5, B1,
                                 B2/back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley_____________Rhythm guitar/lead vocals on A1, A4,
                                 B4/back-up vocals.

  Recorded during band's first trek to the West Coast. Two  songs
  originally written for first album (Let Me Go) and 1973 demo (Watchin' 
  You). See entries 002, 003 & 004. Most memorable photo shoot of any KISS
  album, in which everyone (except Gene) was drunk, including models and
  photographer assistants. Peter Criss was photographed while model was
  performing oral sex on him (no kidding). Of course, we can't see anything.

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006: DRESSED TO KILL
     ---------------

  Casablanca/Warner NBLP 7016  (US)            Released: 19 March, 1975
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6399-059  (Europe)
  VIP 6396, P33C-20005, 22S-3  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-148-1/4              Re-issue July, 1985
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-148-2                CD re-issue July, 1987
  RIAA: Gold        Billboard Chart Peak: #32     Rating:  ***

	A1. Room Service                           (2.59) - PS
	A2. Two Timer                              (2.48) - GS
	A3. Ladies In Waiting                      (2.32) - GS
	A4. Getaway                                (2.44) - AF
	A5. Rock Bottom                            (3.55) - PS/AF
	B1. C'mon And Love Me                      (2.59) - PS
	B2. Anything For My Baby                   (2.34) - PS
	B3. She                                    (4.08) - GS/SC
	B4. Love Her All I Can                     (2.41) - PS
	B5. Rock And Roll All Nite                 (2.49) - PS/GS

  Produced by Neil Bogart and KISS.
  Recorded at Electric Lady Studios, NYC.  February, 1975.
  Engineered and Mixed by Dave Wittman and George Lopez.

        Peter Criss______________Drums/lead vocals on A4/back-up
                                 vocals.
        Ace Frehley______________Lead & rhythm guitar/12 string
                                 acoustic guitar on A5/back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons_____________Bass/lead vocals on A2, A3, B3, B5/
                                 back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley_____________Rhythm guitar/acoustic guitar on B1/
                                 lead vocals on A1, A5, B1, B2, B4/
                                 back-up vocals.

  Tracks B2 and B4 originally written and recorded by Wicked Lester (001).
  First appearance of KISS anthem Rock And Roll All Nite.

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007: ALIVE! 
     ------

  Casablanca/Warner NBLP 7020  (US)              Released: 10 September, 1975
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6640 026  (Europe)
  VIP 9515/16  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 822-780-1/4                Re-issue July, 1985
  Casablanca/PolyGram 822-780-2                  CD re-issue July, 1987
  RIAA: 4X Platinum   Billboard Chart Peak: #9      Rating:  ****1/2

	A1. Deuce                                  (3.32) - GS/PS  
	A2. Strutter                               (3.12) - PS/GS
	A3. Got To Choose                          (3.35) - PS
	A4. Hotter Than Hell                       (3.11) - PS
	A5. Firehouse                              (3.42) - PS
	B1. Nothin' To Lose                        (3.23) - GS
	B2. C'mon And Love Me                      (2.52) - PS
	B3. Parasite                               (3.21) - AF
	B4. She                                    (6.42) - GS/SC
	C1. Watchin' You                           (3.37) - GS
	C2. 100,000 Years                          (11.52) - GS/PS
	C3. Black Diamond                          (5.21) - PS
	D1. Rock Bottom                            (3.08) - AF/PS
	D2. Cold Gin                               (5.21) - AF
	D3. Rock And Roll All Nite                 (3.37) - PS/GS
	D4. Let Me Go, Rock 'N Roll                (5.09) - PS/GS

  Produced, Engineered and Mixed by Eddie Kramer for Remarkable Prods., Inc.
  Recorded live at Allen Theatre, Cleveland, OH. 29 April, 1975 and 
           Cobo Hall, Detroit, MI. 25 May, 1975 during "Dressed To 
           Kill" tour. Overdubbed and mixed at Electric Lady Studios, 
           NYC. August, 1975.

        Peter Criss______________Drums/lead vocals on B4 & C3/back-up
                                 vocals.
        Ace Frehley______________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons_____________Bass/lead vocals on A1, B1, B3, B4,
                                 C1, D2, D3, D4/back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley_____________Rhythm & lead guitar/lead vocals on
                                 A2, A3, A4, A5, B2, B3, C2, D1/back-up
                                 vocals.

  First Casablanca album to include a bonus, in this case, an 8-page colour
  booklet of pictures (from 1974 and 1975) of the band in concert. ALIVE! 
  was the very first live album ever to be certified Platinum by the Recording
  Industry Association of America. It remains today as one of the biggest
  selling albums of the '70s and with sales of over 9 million copies, one
  of the biggest selling live albums of all time. Live "Let Me Know" still
  unreleased.

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008: DESTROYER
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  Casablanca/Warner NBLP 7025  (US)              Released: 15 March, 1976
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6399-064  (Europe)
  VIP 6435 & SWX 6268, P33C-20006, 22S-4  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-149-1/4                Re-issue  July, 1985
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-149-2                  CD re-issue  July, 1987
  RIAA: 3X Platinum   Billboard Chart Peak: #11     Rating:   *****

	A1. Detroit Rock City                      (5.20) - PS/BE
	A2. King Of The Nighttime World            (3.13) - KF/MA/PS/BE
	A3. God Of Thunder                         (4.13) - PS
	A4. Great Expectations                     (4.21) - GS/BE
	B1. Flaming Youth                          (2.55) - AF/PS/GS/BE
	B2. Sweet Pain                             (3.20) - GS
	B3. Shout It Out Loud                      (2.50) - GS/PS/BE
	B4. Beth                                   (2.45) - PC/SP/BE
	B5. Do You Love Me                         (3.33) - KF/BE/PS
        B6. (Untitled Track)                       (1.22) -

  Produced by Bob Ezrin for Migration Records.
  Recorded at Record Plant Studios, NYC.  January-February, 1976.
  Engineered and Mixed by Jay Messina and Corky Stasiak.
  Orchetration by Bob Ezrin and H.A. MacMillan.

        Peter Criss______________Drums/lead vocals on B4/back-up
                                 vocals.
        David Ezrin______________Speaking child and ray gun noises on
                                 A3.
        Ace Frehley______________Lead & rhythm guitars/back-up vocals.
	New York Philarmonic
           Orchestra_____________on A4 & B4.
        Gene Simmons_____________Bass/rhythm guitar on A4/lead vocals
                                 on A3, A4, B2, B3/speaking voice on
                                 A1/back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley_____________Rhythm guitar/lead guitar on A4/lead
                                 vocals on A1, A2, B1, B3, B5/back-up
                                 vocals.
        Dick Wagner______________Rhythm guitar on A4, B1, B2/lead
                                 guitar on B2/back-up vocals on B1.
    
  Casablanca copies made for export include lyrics to "Shout It Out Loud",
  as opposed to "Detroit Rock City" on US copies. Canadian and Japanese
  versions have  gatefold cover. Early 1980s re-issue omit track B6. 
  CD features very bad mastering. Three tracks from these sessions remain 
  shelved , "None Of Your Business", "Beth" (acoustic guitar version), and 
  "God Of Thunder" (with Paul Stanley on lead vocals).

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009: SPECIAL KISS TOUR ALBUM (*)
     -----------------------

  Casablanca/Warner  Kiss '76  (US)             Released: 15 June, 1976

	A1. Beth                                  (2.25) - PC/SP/BE
	A2. Do You Love Me                        (3.33) - KF/BE/PS
	B1. Flaming Youth                         (2.55) - AF/PS/GS/BE
	B2. Detroit Rock City                     (5.30) - PS/BE

  Very first Casablanca promo. Issued to push the 1976 Destroyer Summer 
  Tour. Record label has band in famous Spirit Of '76 costumes.  Extremely 
  rare album.

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010: THE ORIGINALS (*) 
     -------------

  Casablanca/Warner NBLP 7032                   Released: 21 July, 1976

       1. KISS
       2. HOTTER THAN HELL
       3. DRESSED TO KILL

  Repackaging of first three studio albums, along with a 16-page booklet,
  6 KISS bio-cards, KISS Army Sticker and literature.  Total pressing of 
  only 250,000.

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011: ROCK AND ROLL OVER
     ------------------

  Casablanca NBLP 7037  (US)                     Released: 11 November, 1976
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6399-060  (Europe)
  VIP 6376, P33C-20007, 22S-5  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-150-1/4                Re-issue  July, 1985
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-150-2                  CD re-issue  July, 1987
  RIAA: 2X Platinum   Billboard Chart Peak: #11     Rating:   ****

	A1. I Want You                             (3.02) - PS
	A2. Take Me                                (2.53) - PS/SD
	A3. Calling Dr. Love                       (3.41) - GS
	A4. Ladies Room                            (3.25) - GS
	A5. Baby Driver                            (3.39) - PC/SP
	B1. Love 'Em And Leave 'Em                 (3.41) - GS
	B2. Mr. Speed                              (3.19) - PS/SD
	B3. See You In Your Dreams                 (2.31) - GS
	B4. Hard Luck Woman                        (3.32) - PS
	B5. Makin' Love                            (3.12) - PS/SD

  Produced by Eddie Kramer for Remarkable Productions, Inc.
  Recorded live-in-the-studio at Star Theatre, Naunet, NY. September, 1976.
  Engineered and mixed by Eddie Kramer and Corky Stasiak at The Record
           Plant Studios, NYC.

        Peter Criss______________Drums/lead vocals on A5 & B4/
                                 back-up vocals.
        Ace Frehley______________Lead & rhythm guitar/bass on B3/
                                 acoustic guitar on B4/back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons_____________Bass/rhythm guitar on B3/lead vocals
                                 on A3, A4, B1, B3/back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley_____________Rhythm guitar/acoustic guitar on B4/
                                 lead vocals on A1, A2, B2, B5/back-up
                                 vocals.

  Recorded live in an actual theatre. Set up had Peter Criss playing drums in
  the bathroom, communicating with the band and producer through closed 
  circuit TV cameras. Large KISS sticker as bonus. Second pressing also
  lists assistant producer on back. Ace Frehley' "Queen For A Day" from these
  sessions still unavailable. Album shipped Gold.

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012: ROCK AND ROLL OVER-SPECIAL EDITION (*)
     ----------------------------------

  Casablanca NBLP 7037 DJ  (US)                 Released: 11 November, 1976

	A1. I Want You                            (3.02) - PS
	A2. Hard Luck Woman                       (3.32) - PS
	B1. Take Me                               (2.53) - PS/SD
	B2. Baby Driver                           (3.39) - PC/SP
	B3. Love 'Em And Leave 'Em                (3.41) - GS

  Promotional-only EP. Very rare.

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013: LOVE GUN
     --------

  Casablanca NBLP 7057  (US)                   Released: 30 June, 1977
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6399-063 (Europe)
  VIP 6435, P33C-20008, 22S-6  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-151-1/4              Re-issue July, 1985
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-151-2                CD re-issue July, 1987
  RIAA: 3X Platinum   Billboard Chart Peak: #4    Rating:  ****

	A1. I Stole Your Love                      (3.04) - PS
	A2. Christine Sixteen                      (3.12) - GS
	A3. Got Love For Sale                      (3.28) - GS
	A4. Shock Me                               (3.47) - AF
	A5. Tomorrow And Tonight                   (3.38) - PS
	B1. Love Gun                               (3.16) - PS
	B2. Hooligan                               (2.58) - PC/SP
	B3. Almost Human                           (2.48) - GS
	B4. Plaster Caster                         (3.25) - GS
	B5. Then She Kissed Me                     (3.01) - JB/EG/PS2

  Produced by KISS and Eddie Kramer (for Remarkable Productions, Inc.).
  Recorded at Record Plant Studios, NYC.  May, 1977.
  Engineered and Mixed by Eddie Kramer and Corky Stasiak.

        Peter Criss_______________Drums/lead vocals on B2/back-up
                                  vocals.
        Ace Frehley_______________Lead and rhythm guitar/lead vocals
                                  on A4/back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons______________Bass/rhythm guitar on B3 & B4/
                                  acoustic guitar on A3/piano on A2/
                                  lead vocals on A2, A3, B3,B4/
                                  back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley______________Rhythm guitar (except on A4)/lead
                                  guitar on B5/lead vocals on A1, A5,
                                  B1, B5/back-up vocals.
 
  Gene Simmons demos from this album feature Alex Van Halen on drums and
  Eddie Van Halen on guitar. Most 1970s pressings misspell Ace's last
  name as "Freeley". Album shipped Platinum. Paper gun bonus.

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014: KISS ALIVE II
     -------------

  Casablanca NBLP 7076  (US)                    Released: 14 October, 1977
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6685-043  (Europe)
  VIP 9529/30  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 822-781-1/4               Re-issue  July, 1985
  Casablanca/PolyGram 822-781-2                 CD re-issue  July, 1987
  RIAA: 3X Platinum   Billboard Chart Peak: #7     Rating:   ****

	A1. Detroit Rock City                      (3.58) - PS/BE
	A2. King Of The Nighttime World            (3.06) - KF/MA/PS/BE
	A3. Ladies Room                            (3.11) - GS
	A4. Makin' Love                            (3.13) - PS/SD
	A5. Love Gun                               (3.34) - PS
	B1. Calling Dr. Love                       (3.32) - GS
	B2. Christine Sixteen                      (2.45) - GS
	B3. Shock Me                               (5.51) - AF
	B4. Hard Luck Woman                        (3.06) - PS
	B5. Tomorrow And Tonight                   (3.20) - PS
	C1. I Stole Your Love                      (3.36) - PS
	C2. Beth                                   (2.24) - PC/SP/BE
	C3. God Of Thunder                         (5.16) - PS
	C4. I Want You                             (4.14) - PS
	C5. Shout It Out Loud                      (3.37) - GS/PS/BE
	D1. All American Man                       (3.13) - PS/SD
	D2. Rockin' In The U.S.A.                  (2.44) - GS
	D3. Larger Than Life                       (3.55) - GS
	D4. Rocket Ride                            (4.07) - AF/SD
	D5. Any Way You Want It                    (2.33) - DC

  Produced by Eddie Kramer and KISS.
  Recorded live at The Forum, LA. 26-28 August, 1977 during "Love Gun" tour. 
           Tracks B4, B5, D1, D2, D3, D4 & D5 recorded at Capital Theatre, 
	   Passaic, NJ, and Electric Lady Studios, NYC. September, 1977.
  Engineered by Eddie Kramer and Corky Stasiak (D1-D5).
  Mixed by Eddie Kramer and Neil Dorfsman at Electric Lady Studios, NYC.

        Peter Criss______________Drums/lead vocals on B4 & C2/back-up
                                 vocals.
        Rick Derringer___________Lead and rhythm guitar on D1.
        Ace Frehley______________Lead & rhythm guitar (all guitars on
                                 D4)/lead vocals on B3 & D4/back-up
                                 vocals.
        Bob Kulick_______________Lead & rhythm guitar on D2 & D3.
        Gene Simmons_____________Bass/rhythm guitar on D3/lead vocals
                                 on A3, B1, B2, C3, C5, D2, D3/back-up
                                 vocals.
        Paul Stanley_____________Rhythm & lead guitar (all guitars on
                                 D5)/lead vocals on A1, A2, A4, A5,
                                 B4, B5, C1, C4, C5, D1, D5/back-up
                                 vocals.

  Tracks B4 and B5 studio recordings with crowd noise dubbed on. Live 
  "Take Me" "Do You Love Me" and "Hooligan" still shelved. Lyric booklet 
  and KISS tattoos as bonuses. Inner sleeves include discography.

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015: ORIGINALS II (*)                (Japan)
     ------------

  VIP 5504-5                                   Released: January, 1978

       1. DESTROYER
       2. ROCK AND ROLL OVER
       3. LOVE GUN

  Japanese-only compilation. Lyric booklet, photo book and 4 KISS masks
  as bonuses. Very rare (asking price upwards of US$325).

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016: DOUBLE PLATINUM
     ---------------

  Casablanca NBLP 7100  (US)                    Released: 2 April, 1978
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6641-907  (Europe)
  VIP 9549  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-155-1/4               Re-issue  July, 1985
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-155-2                 CD re-issue  July, 1987
  RIAA: Platinum      Billboard Chart Peak: #22    Rating:   ***

	A1. Strutter '78                           (3.41) - PS/GS
	A2. Do You Love Me                         (3.33) - KF/BE/PS
	A3. Hard Luck Woman                        (3.24) - PS
	A4. Calling Dr. Love                       (3.20) - GS
	A5. Let Me Go, Rock 'N Roll                (2.15) - PS/GS
	B1. Love Gun                               (3.27) - PS
	B2. God Of Thunder                         (4.30) - PS
	B3. Firehouse                              (3.20) - PS
	B4. Hotter Than Hell                       (3.30) - PS
	B5. I Want You                             (3.02) - PS
	C1. Deuce                                  (3.02) - GS
	C2. 100,000 Years                          (3.24) - PS/GS
	C3. Detroit Rock City                      (4.26) - PS/BE
	C4. Rock Bottom (Intro)                    (0.51) - AF
	C4. She                                    (4.34) - GS/SC
	C5. Rock And Roll All Nite                 (2.45) - PS/GS
	D1. Beth                                   (2.45) - PC/SP/BE
	D2. Makin' Love                            (3.12) - PS/SD
	D3. C'mon And Love Me                      (2.54) - PS
	D4. Cold Gin                               (4.31) - AF
	D5. Black Diamond                          (4.14) - PS

  Compilation produced by KISS and Sean Delaney. Executive producer:
              Jimmy Ienner.
  Recorded at: A1 - Electric Lady Studios, September, 1977.
                    Produced by KISS & Sean Delaney.
               A2, B2, C3 & D1 - Record Plant Studios, NYC.
                    January-February, 1976. Produced by Bob Ezrin.
               A3, A4, B5 & D2 - Star Theatre, Naunet, NY. September, 1976. 
                    Produced by Eddie Kramer.
               A5 & B4 - Village Recorder, LA. August, 1974.
                    Produced by Kenny Kerner and Richie Wise.
               B1 - Record Plant Studios, NYC. May, 1977.
                    Produced by KISS and Eddie Kramer.
               B3, C1, D4 & D5 - Bell Studios, NYC. October, 1973.
                    Produced by Kenny Kerner and Richie Wise.
               C4, C5 & D3 - Electric Lady Studios, NYC. February, 1975.
                    Produced by Neil Bogart and KISS.
  Tracks A3, A4, B3, C1, C2, C3, C4 & D5 remixed by Sean Delaney and
         Mike Stone at Trident Studios, London, February, 1978.
               
         Peter Criss___________Drums/lead vocals on A3, D1 & D5/back-up
                               vocals.
         Ace Frehley___________Lead, rhythm & acoustic guitar/back-up
                               vocals.
         Gene Simmons__________Bass/lead vocals on A4, A5, B2, C1, C4, C5
                               & D4/back-up vocals.
         Paul Stanley__________Rhythm & acoustic guitar/lead vocals on A1,
                               A2, B1, B3, B4, B5, C3, D2 & D3/back-up
                               vocals.

  Early 1980s European pressings substitute original etchings with pictures
  from the 1982 KISS KILLERS (029-031) photo sessions, including Eric Carr.
  Paper Platinum disc bonus.

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017: A TASTE OF PLATINUM (*)
     -------------------

  Casablanca NB 20128   (US)                     Released: March, 1978

	A1. Strutter '78                           (3.41) - PS/GS
	A2. Do You Love Me                         (3.33) - KF/BE/PS
	B1. Love Gun                               (3.27) - PS
	B2. Firehouse                              (3.20) - PS

  Promotional sampler issued to radio.

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018: GENE SIMMONS
     ------------

  Casablanca NBLP 7120  (US)                     Released: 18 September, 1978
  Casablanca NBPIX 7120 (Picture Disc)
  VIP 6578  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 826-239-1/2/4              Re-issue    April, 1988
  RIAA: Platinum      Billboard Chart Peak: #22     Rating:  ***

	A1. Radioactive                            (3.50) - GS
	A2. Burning Up With Fever                  (4.19) - GS
	A3. See You Tonite                         (2.30) - GS
	A4. Tunnel Of Love                         (3.49) - GS
	A5. True Confessions                       (3.30) - GS
	B1. Living In Sin                          (3.50) - GS/SD/HM
	B2. Always Near You/Nowhere To Hide        (4.12) - GS
	B3. Man Of 1,000 Faces                     (3.16) - GS
	B4. Mr. Make Believe                       (4.00) - GS
	B5. See You In Your Dreams                 (2.48) - GS
	B6. When You Wish Upon A Star              (2.44) - NW/LH

  Produced by Sean Delaney and Gene Simmons.
  Recorded at The Manor, Oxford; Cherokee Studios, LA; Blue Rock Studio,
              NYC. Spring, 1978.
  Mixed at Trident Studios, London, by Mike Stone, John Brand, Allen 
           Douglass and Frank "Cheech" D'Amico.

        The Azusa Citrus College
            Choir____________________Vocals on A5 & B2.
        Jeff Baxter__________________Back-up vocals on A2, A3, A4 & B4.
        Cher_________________________Telephone voice on B1.
        Sean Delaney_________________Percussion/back-up vocals.
        Michael Des Barres___________Back-up vocals on B5.
        Franny Eisenberg_____________Back-up vocals.
        Ron Frangipane_______________Symphonic Arragements/conductor
                                     NY & LA Philarmonic Orchestras.
        Richard Gerstein_____________Piano on A5 & B2.
        Diva Gray____________________Back-up vocals.
        Gordon Grody_________________Back-up vocals.
        Janis Ian____________________Vocals on prelude to A1.
        John Shane Howell____________Classical guitar on intro to A2.
        Neil Jason___________________Bass.
        Steve Lacey__________________Guitar on A1.
        Rick Neilsen_________________Guitar on B5.
        Joe Pecorino_________________Back-up vocals on A3, B2 & B4.
        Joe Perry____________________Guitar on A1 & A4.
        Ritchie Ranno________________Guitar on A4.
        Elliot Randall_______________Guitar.
        Carolyn Ray__________________Back-up vocals.
        Helen Reddy__________________Back-up vocals on A5.
        Kate Sagall__________________Back-up vocals.
	Bob Seger____________________Guitar & back-up vocals on A1 & B1.
        Allan Schwartzberg___________Drums.
        Gene Simmons_________________Electric & acoustic guitar/lead vocals.
        Donna Summer_________________Back-up vocals on A2.
        Eric Troyer__________________Piano & back-up vocals on A1 & B1.
        Mitch Weissman_______________Acoustic guitar on A3, B2 & B4.
        
  "Thank You" list removed for CD issue. Gene Simmons, bass player for KISS,
  does not play a single bass note on his own solo album. "Tunnel Of Love" 
  written for LOVE GUN (013); "Man Of 1,000 Faces" written in 1970 for Gene's 
  band Bullfrog Beer.  Includes part 2 of a 4-part KISS mural.

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019:  ACE FREHLEY    
      -----------

  Casablanca NBLP 7121  (US)                    Released: 18 September, 1978
  Casablanca NBPIX 7121 (Picture Disc)
  VIP 6579  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 826-916-1/2/4             Re-issue   April, 1988
  RIAA: Platinum      Billboard Chart Peak: #26    Rating:  ****

	A1. Rip It Out                             (3.39) - AF/LK/SK
	A2. Speedin' Back To My Baby               (3.35) - AF/JF
	A3. Snow Blind                             (3.54) - AF
	A4. Ozone                                  (4.41) - AF
	A5. Whats On Your Mind?                    (3.26) - AF
	B1. New York Groove                        (3.01) - RB
	B2. I'm In Need Of Love                    (4.36) - AF
	B3. Wiped-Out                              (4.10) - AF/AF2
	B4. Fractured Mirror                       (5.25) - AF

  Produced by Eddie Kramer and Ace Frehley.
  Recorded, Mixed and Engineered by Eddie Kramer, Bob Freeman,
            Eric Block and Don Hunerburg at The "Mansion", Sharon, CT.
	    and Plaza Sound Studio, NYC. Spring, 1978.

        Anton Fig________________Drums/percussion.
        Ace Frehley______________Lead, rhythm & acoustic guitar/bass/
                                 guitar synthesizer/lead vocals/back-up
                                 vocals.
        Larry Kelly______________Back-up vocals on A1.
        David Lasley & Susan
            Collins & Co.________Back-up vocals on A2, A5 & B1.
        Will Lee_________________Bass on A4, B2 & B3.
        Bobby McAdams____________Power mouth on B1.
        Bill Scheniman___________Bell on B4.
        Carl Tallarico___________Drums on B4.

  Only one out the four solo albums to score a Top-10 hit (New York Groove).
  Includes part 1 of a 4-part KISS mural.

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020: PETER CRISS 
     -----------

  Casablanca NBLP 7122  (US)                     Released: 18 September, 1978
  Casablanca NBPIX 7122  (Picture Disc)
  VIP 6580  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 826-917-1/2/4              Re-issue   April, 1988
  RIAA: Platinum      Billboard Chart Peak: #43     Rating:  **
 
	A1. I'm Gonna Love You                     (3.18) - PC/SP
	A2. You Matter To Me                       (3.15) - JV/MM/VP
	A3. Tossin' And Turnin'                    (3.58) - RA/MR
	A4. Don't You Let Me Down                  (3.38) - PC/SP
	A5. That's The Kind Of Sugar Papa Likes    (2.59) - PC/SP
	B1. Easy Thing                             (3.53) - PC/SP
	B2. Rock Me, Baby                          (2.50) - SD
	B3. Kiss The Girl Goodbye                  (2.46) - PC/SP
	B4. Hooked On Rock And Roll                (3.37) - SP/PC/VP
	B6. I Can't Stop The Rain                  (4.25) - SD

  Produced by Vini Poncia. Tracks B1, B2 & B5 produced by Vini Poncia,
              Peter Criss and Sean Delaney. Track B3 produced by Vini
              Poncia and Peter Criss.
  Recorded and Engineered by Vini Poncia at Sunset Sound Studios,
               Hollywood, and Electric Lady Studios, NYC. Spring, 1978.

        Bill Bodine_________________Bass on A1-A5 & B4.
        Michael Carnahan____________Sax solo on A3.
        Lenny Castro________________Percussion on A3 & A4.
	Peter Criss_________________Lead vocals/backing Vocals on A4 & B4/
                                    drums on A1-A5 & B4/percussion on B3.
        Bill Cuomo__________________Keyboards on A1-A5 & B4. 
        Maxine Dixon________________Back-up vocals on A1, A3 & A5.
        Danny Faragher______________Back-up vocals on A1 & A2.
        Davey Faragher______________Back-up vocals on A1 & A2.
        Jimmy Faragher______________Back-up vocals on A1 & A2.
        Tommy Faragher______________Back-up vocals on A1 & A2.
        Richard Gerstein____________Keyboards on B1, B2 & B5/
                                    synthesiser on A2 & A3.
        Gordon Grody________________Back-up vocals on B2 & B5.
        Brendan Harkin______________Guitar on B5.
        Neil Jason__________________Bass on B1, B2 & B5.
        Steve Lukather______________Guitar solo on A5 & B4.
        Art Munson__________________Guitar on A1-A5 & B4.
        Stan Penridge_______________Guitar on A1-A5, B3 & B4.
        Vini Poncia_________________Back-up vocals on A4 & B4.
        Elliott Randall_____________Guitar on B1 & B5.
        Allan Schwartzberg__________Drums on B1, B2 & B5.
        Annie Suttman_______________Back-up vocals on B2 & B5.
        Julia Tillman_______________Back-up vocals on A3 & A5.
        John Tropea_________________Guitar on B1, B2 & B5. 
        Maxine Willard______________Back-up vocals on A3 & A5.

  Two singles issued off this album (A4 & A2). Includes part 3 of a 4-part
  KISS mural.

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021: PAUL STANLEY  
     ------------

  Casablanca NBLP 7123  (US)                   Released: 18 September, 1978
  Casablanca NBPIX 7123   (Picture Disc)
  VIP 6577  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 826-915-1/2/4            Re-issue   April, 1988
  RIAA: Platinum      Billboard Chart Peak: #40     Rating:  ****

	A1. Tonight You Belong To Me                         (4.39) - PS
	A2. Move On                                          (3.07) - PS/MJ
	A3. Ain't Quite Right                                (3.34) - PS/MJ
	A4. Wouldn't You Like To Know Me                     (3.16) - PS
	A5. Take Me Away (Together As One)                   (5.26) - PS/MJ
	B1. It's Alright                                     (3.31) - PS
	B2. Hold Me, Touch Me (Think Of Me When We're Apart) (3.40) - PS
	B3. Love In Chains                                   (3.34) - PS
	B4. Goodbye                                          (4.09) - PS

  Produced by Paul Stanley. Tracks A5, B1, B3 & B4 Produced by 
              Paul Stanley and Jeff Glixman.
  Recorded and Mixed at Electric Lady Studios, NYC; The Record Plant, 
              LA; and The Village Recorders, LA. Spring, 1978.

        Carmine Appice____________Drums on A5.
        Steve Buslowe_____________Bass on A1-A5.
        Peppy Castro______________Back-up vocals on A5 & B2.
        Richie Fontana____________Drums on A1-A4.
        Diana Graselli____________Back-up vocals on A2.
        Craig Kampf_______________Drums on B1-B4.
        Doug Katsaros_____________Piano/Omni String ensemble/back-up vocals.
        Bob Kulick________________Lead & rhythm guitar/acoustic guitar
        Steve Lacey_______________Rhythm guitar on B3. 
        Eric Nelson_______________Bass on B1-B4.
        Paul Stanley______________Lead vocals/back-up vocals/rhythm
                                  guitar/acoustic guitars/E-bows/all guitars
                                  on B2
        Miriam Naomi Valle________Back-up vocals on A2.
        Maria Vidal_______________Back-up vocals on A2.

  CD issue lists track A4 as "Wouldn't You Like Me To Know".
  Contains part 4 of a 4-part KISS mural.

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022: SOLO ALBUM SAMPLER (*) 
     ------------------

  Casablanca NB 20137 DJ  (US)                   Released: September, 1978.

	A1. Don't You Let Me Down                  (3.38) - PC/SP
	A2. You Matter To Me                       (3.15) - JV/MM/VP
	A3. New York Groove                        (3.01) - RB
	A4. Fractured Mirror                       (5.25) - AF
	B1. See You Tonite                         (2.30) - GS
	B2. Radioactive                            (3.50) - GS
	B3. Hold Me, Touch Me                      (3.40) - PS
	B4. Take Me Away (Together As One)         (5.26) - PS/MJ

  Promotional-only compilation culled from the four solo albums. Issued
  to radio stations only. Formed the basis for the "BEST OF SOLO ALBUMS"
  releases (entries 025 & 026) in 1981. See entries 018-021 for production
  credits.

_______________________________________________________________________________


023: DYNASTY 
     -------

  Casablanca NBLP 7152   (US)                   Released: 23 May, 1979
  Casablanca/Phonogram 9128-024  (Europe)
  P33C-20009, 22S-11 (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 812-770-1/4               Re-issue  July, 1985
  Casablanca/PolyGram 812-770-2                 CD re-issue  July, 1987
  RIAA: 3X Platinum   Billboard Chart Peak: #9     Rating:   *** 

	A1. I Was Made For Lovin' You             (4.29) - PS/VP/DC2
	A2. 2,000 Man                             (4.53) - MJ2/KR
	A3. Sure Know Something                   (3.59) - PS/VP
	A4. Dirty Livin'                          (4.16) - PC/VP/SP
	B1. Charisma                              (4.26) - GS/HM
	B2. Magic Touch                           (4.40) - PS
	B3. Hard Times                            (3.59) - AF
	B4. X-Ray Eyes                            (3.42) - GS
	B5. Save Your Love                        (4.39) - AF

  Produced by Vini Poncia for Mad Vincent Productions, Inc.
  Recorded and Mixed by Jay Messina at Electric Lady and Record
           Plant Studios, NYC. January-February & April 1979.

	Desmond Child______________Keyboards on A1/back-up vocals.
        Peter Criss________________Drums on A2, A4, B1 & A3/percussion/
				   lead vocals on A4/back-up vocals.
	Anton Fig__________________Drums on A3, B2, B4 & B5/back-up vocals 
				   on B2.
        Richie Fontana_____________Drums on A1.
        Ace Frehley________________Lead & rhythm guitar/acoustic guitar on 
				   A4 & B3/bass on A1, A2, A4, B1, B3 & B5/
			           lead vocals on A2, B3 & B5/back-up vocals.
        Vini Poncia________________Back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons_______________Bass on A3, B1 & B4/piano on B4/rhythm 
				   guitar on B1/lead vocals on B1 & B4/
                                   back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley_______________Rhythm guitar (except on A2, B3 & B5)/bass 
                                   on A3/lead guitar on A3 & B2/lead vocals 
                                   on A1, A3 & B2/back-up vocals. 

  Very nice packaging included a KISS poster and record sleeve photography
  by Francesco Scavullo. Certain copies also included a KISS sticker.  Record
  label features what is probably one of KISS'  best pictures ever, also by 
  Mr. Scavullo: the band in black tunics with a silver-and-red KISS sign above
  them.  All, of course, omited for CD release.

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024: UNMASKED 
     --------

  Casablanca NBLP 7225  (US)                     Released: 20 May, 1980
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6302-032  (Europe)
  VIP 25S-3, P33C-20010, 25S-3  (Japan)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 800-041-1/4                Re-issue  July, 1985
  Casablanca/PolyGram 800-041-2                  CD re-issue  July, 1987
  RIAA: Gold          Billboard Chart Peak: #35     Rating:   **
 
	A1. Is That You                            (3.55) - GM
	A2. Shandi                                 (3.33) - PS/VP
	A3. Talk To Me                             (4.00) - AF
	A4. Naked City                             (3.49) - GS/RK/PC2/VP
	A5. What Makes The World Go 'Round         (4.14) - PS/VP
	B1. Tomorrow                               (3.16) - PS/VP
	B2. Two Sides Of The Coin                  (3.15) - AF
	B3. She's So European                      (3.30) - GS/VP
	B4. Easy As It Seems                       (3.24) - PS/VP
	B5. Torpedo Girl                           (3.31) - AF/VP
	B6. You're All That I Want                 (3.04) - GS/VP

  Produced by Vini Poncia for Mad Vincent Productions, Inc.
  Recorded and Mixed by Jay Massina and Gary Russell at The Record
           Plant, NYC.  January-Febraury 1980.

        Anton Fig______________________Drums/percussion.
        Ace Frehley____________________Lead & rhythm guitar/bass &
                                       lead vocals on A3, B2 & B5/
                                       back-up vocals.
        Bob Kulick_____________________Lead and rhythm guitar on A4.
        Vini Poncia____________________Keyboards/back-up vocals/percussion.
        Gene Simmons___________________Bass/rhyhtm guitar on B6/lead
                                       vocals on A4, B3 & B6/back-up
                                       vocals.
        Paul Stanley___________________Rhythm & lead guitar/bass on
                                       A2 & B1/lead vocals on A1, A2,
                                       A5, B1 & B4/back-up vocals.

  'GASP' poster bonus. Cover shows Peter Criss depite his zero involvement in
  recording or writing record. Video for "Shandi" was Criss' last work with
  KISS.

_______________________________________________________________________________

  
025: BEST OF SOLO ALBUMS (*)         (Europe)
     -------------------

  Casablanca/Phonogram 6302-060                 Released: January, 1981

	A1. New York Groove                        (3.01) - RB
	A2. Rip It Out                             (3.39) - AF/LK/SK
	A3. Speedin' Back To My Baby               (3.35) - AF/JF
	A4. You Matter To Me                       (3.15) - JV/MM/VP
	A5. Tossin' And Turnin'                    (3.58) - RA/MR
	A6. Hooked On Rock And Roll                (3.37) - SP/PC/VP
	B1. Radioactive                            (3.50) - GS
	B2. Mr. Make Believe                       (4.00) - GS
	B3. See You In Your Dreams                 (2.48) - GS
	B4. Tonight You Belong To Me               (4.39) - PS
	B5. Move On                                (3.07) - PS/MJ
	B6. Hold Me, Touch Me                      (3.40) - PS

  European version of the album. Tracks A1-A3 are from the "Ace Frehley"
  album. A4-A6 from "Peter Criss", B1-B3 from "Gene Simmons" and B4-
  B6 from "Paul Stanley". See entries 018-021 for production credits.
  Discography on back cover shows all albums (1974-1980) with german
  KISS logo. Deleted since 1982. Has not been reissued on Compact Disc.

_______________________________________________________________________________


026: BEST OF SOLO ALBUMS (*)          (Australia)
     -------------------

  Phonogram (cat # N/A)                         Released: January, 1981

	A1. Hold Me, Touch Me                      (3.40) - PS
	A2. Tonight You Belong To Me               (4.39) - PS
	A3. Move On                                (3.07) - PS/MJ
	A4. Don't You Let Me Down                  (3.38) - PC/SP
	A5. Hooked On Rock And Roll                (3.37) - SP/PC/VP
	A6. I Can't Stop The Rain                  (4.25) - SD
	B1. New York Groove                        (3.01) - RB
	B2. Speedin' Back To My Baby               (3.35) - AF/JF
	B3. Rip It Out                             (3.39) - AF/LK/SK
	B4. Radioactive                            (3.50) - GS
	B5. Mr. Make Believe                       (4.00) - GS
	B6. Living In Sin                          (3.50) - GS/SD/HM

  Australian version of album above (025). Tracks A1-A3 are from the
  "Paul Stanley" album, A4-A6 from "Peter Criss", B1-B3 from "Ace Frehley"
  and B4-B6 from "Gene Simmons". Deleted since 1982. Has not been reissued 
  on Compact Disc.

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027: (MUSIC FROM) THE ELDER        
     ----------------------

  Casablanca NBLP 7261  (US)                    Released: 10 November, 1981
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6302-163  (Europe)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 6480-071  (US Export)
  Casablanca/PolyGram 824-153-2                 CD re-issue  May, 1989.
  RIAA: Gold          Billboard Chart Peak: #75    Rating:   **

	A1. The Oath                               (4.32) - PS/BE/TP
	A2. Fanfare                                (1.22) - BE/PS
	A3. Just A Boy                             (2.30) - PS/BE
	A4. Dark Light                             (4.12) - AF/AF2/LR/GS
	A5. Only You                               (4.19) - GS
	A6. Under The Rose                         (4.49) - EC/GS
	B1. A World Without Heroes                 (2.40) - PS/BE/LR/GS
	B2. Mr. Blackwell                          (4.53) - GS/LR
	B3. Escape From The Island                 (2.50) - AF/BE/EC
	B4. Odyssey                                (5.36) - TP
	B5. I                                      (3.52) - GS/BE

  Produced by Bob Ezrin for Migration Records. Associate Producer 
           Brian Christian.
  Recorded at Ace In The Hole Studio, Connecticut, March-July 1981;
           A & R Studios, NYC, May 1981; Record Plant Studios, NYC, 
           May, July-September 1981; Ezrin Farm Studio & Sounds Interchange, 
	   Toronto, CA, March & May 1981; by Brian Christian, Rick Hart, 
	   Robert 'Ringo' Hrycyna and David Brown. Additional Engineerening
           by Rob Freeman, Corky Stasiak and Kevin Doyle.
  Mixed at Manta Sound Studio, Toronto, Canada.

	American Symphony
          Orchestra_____________(Arrangements by Bob Ezrin & Michael Kamen).
	Eric Carr_______________Drums/back-up vocals/bass on B3.
        Robert Christie_________Speaking vioce.
        Ace Frehley_____________Lead, rhythm & acoustic guitar/lead vocals 
                                and bass on A4/all guitars on B3/back-up
                                vocals.
        Christopher Makepeace___Speaking voice.
        Anthony Parr____________Speaking voice.
	Tony Powers_____________Piano/keyboards.
        Gene Simmons____________Bass/rhythm guitar on A5/lead vocals on
                                A5, A6, B1, B2 and B5/back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley____________Rhythm and acoustic guitar/lead vocals on
                                A1, A3, B4 and B5/back-up vocals.

  First pressings included lyric sheet. PolyGram asked  the record be
  remixed and altered for final release. Several studio tracks remain shelved.
  
_______________________________________________________________________________


028: (MUSIC FROM) THE ELDER          (Japan)
     ----------------------

  Polystar 28S-23                              Released: November, 1981
  Casablanca P33C-20011                        CD re-issue (Month?), 1988

	A1. Fanfare                                (1.22) - BE/PS
	A2. Just A Boy                             (2.30) - PS/BE
	A3. Odyssey                                (5.36) - TP
	A4. Only You                               (4.19) - GS
	A5. Under The Rose                         (4.49) - EC/GS
	B1. Dark Light                             (4.12) - AF/AF2/LR/GS
	B2. A World Without Heroes                 (2.40) - PS/BE/LR/GS
	B3. The Oath                               (4.32) - PS/BE/TP
	B4. Mr. Blackwell                          (4.53) - GS/LR
	B5. I                                      (3.52) - GS/BE

  Produced by Bob Ezrin for Migration Records. Associate Producer 
           Brian Christian.
  Recorded at Ace In The Hole Studio, Connecticut, March-July 1981;
           A & R Studios, NYC, May 1981; Record Plant Studios, NYC, 
           May, July-September 1981; Ezrin Farm Studio & Sounds Interchange, 
	   Toronto, CA, March & May 1981; by Brian Christian, Rick Hart, 
	   Robert 'Ringo' Hrycyna and David Brown. Additional Engineerening
           by Rob Freeman, Corky Stasiak and Kevin Doyle.
  Mixed at Manta Sound Studio, Toronto, Canada.

	American Symphony
          Orchestra_____________(Arrangements by Bob Ezrin & Michael Kamen).
	Eric Carr_______________Drums/back-up vocals.
        Robert Christie_________Speaking vioce.
        Ace Frehley_____________Lead, rhythm & acoustic guitar/lead vocals 
                                and bass on B1/back-up vocals.
        Christopher Makepeace___Speaking voice.
        Anthony Parr____________Speaking voice.
	Tony Powers_____________Piano/keyboards.
        Gene Simmons____________Bass/rhythm guitar on A4/lead vocals on
                                A4, A5, B2, B4 and B5/back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley____________Rhythm and acoustic guitar/lead vocals on
                                A2, A3, B3 and B5/back-up vocals.

  Album band had initially intended to release in America and Europe. 
  "Escape From The Island", track from these sessions released in Japan
  on compilation KISS KILLERS (031). Cover shows band in makeup.

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029: KISS KILLERS                    (Europe & America - except US & Canada)
     ------------

  Casablanca/Phonogram 6302-193                 Released: May, 1982
  Polydor 812 771-1/2/4                         Re-issue  1989
  RIAA: N/A             UK Chart Peak: #42      Rating:  **
  
	A1. I'm A Legend Tonight                   (3.59) - AM/PS
	A2. Down On Your Knees                     (3.31) - PS/MJ/BA
	A3. Cold Gin                               (4.20) - AF
	A4. Love Gun                               (3.17) - PS
	A5. Shout It Out Loud  (remix)             (2.40) - GS/PS/BE
	A6. Sure Know Something                    (3.59) - PS/VP
	B1. Nowhere To Run                         (4.32) - PS
	B2. Partners In Crime                      (3.45) - PS/AM
	B3. Detroit Rock City                      (3.53) - PS/BE
	B4. God Of Thunder                         (4.11) - PS
	B5. I Was Made For Lovin' You              (4.18) - PS/VP/DC2
	B6. Rock And Roll All Nite (live)          (3.58) - PS/GS

  Produced by Michael James Jackson (A1, A2, B1 & B2); Kenny Kerner 
           & Richie Wise (A3); Eddie Kramer (B6); Eddie Kramer & KISS (A4);
           Bob Ezrin (A5, B3 & B4) and Vini Poncia (A6 & B5).
  Recorded at The Record Plant, LA, April 1982 (A1, A2, B1 & B2), February 
	   1979 (B5); Bell Sound Studios, NYC.  October 1973 (A3); Record 
	   Plant Studios, NYC. January-February, 1976 (A5, B3 & B4), May 1977 
	   (A4) & April 1979 (A6); Allen Theatre, Cleveland, OH. 29 April, 
	   1975 (B6).

	Eric Carr___________________Drums & back-up vocals on A1, A2, B1 & B2.
	Desmond Child_______________Keyboards and back-up vocals on B5.
        Peter Criss_________________Drums & back-up vocals on A3-A6, B3, B4 &
                                    B6.
	Anton Fig___________________Drums on A6.
	Richie Fontana______________Drums on B5.
        Ace Frehley_________________Lead & rhythm guitar/bass on B5/back-up 
                                    vocals.
        Bob Kulick__________________Lead guitar on A1, A2, B1 & B2.
	Vini Poncia_________________Back-up vocals on B5.
	Gene Simmons________________Bass/lead vocals on A3, A5, B4 & B6/
                                    back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley________________Rhythm & acoustic guitar/bass on B2/
                                    lead vocals on A1, A2, A4, A5, A6, B1,
                                    B2, B3 & B5/back-up vocals.

  Tracks A5, B3, B4 & B5 edits. Released in America except the US and Canada.
  South American versions exchange tracks A5 and B4. "Nowhere To Run"
  originally written for THE ELDER (027-028). Later pressings of the Mexican
  LP replace original cover with a shot of the band circa 1984.

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030: KISS KILLERS                    (Australia)
     ------------

  Phonogram                                     Released: May, 1982

  	A1. I'm A Legend Tonight                   (3.59) - AM/PS
	A2. Down On Your Knees                     (3.31) - PS/MJ/BA
	A3. Cold Gin                               (4.20) - AF
	A4. Love Gun                               (3.17) - PS
	A5. Shout It Out Loud  (remix)             (2.40) - GS/PS/BE
	A6. Talk To Me                             (4.00) - AF
	A7. Sure Know Something                    (3.59) - PS/VP
	B1. Nowhere To Run                         (4.32) - PS
	B2. Partners In Crime                      (3.45) - PS/AM
	B3. Detroit Rock City                      (3.53) - PS/BE
	B4. God Of Thunder                         (4.11) - PS
	B5. I Was Made For Lovin' You              (4.18) - PS/VP/DC2
	B6. Rock And Roll All Nite (live)          (3.58) - PS/GS

  Produced by Michael James Jackson (A1, A2, B1 & B2); Kenny Kerner 
           & Richie Wise (A3); Eddie Kramer (B6); Eddie Kramer & KISS (A4);
           Bob Ezrin (A5, B3 & B4) and Vini Poncia (A6, A7 & B5).
  Recorded at The Record Plant, LA, April 1982 (A1, A2, B1 & B2), February 
	   1979 (B5); Bell Sound Studios, NYC.  October 1973 (A3); Record 
	   Plant Studios, NYC. January-February, 1976 (A5, B3 & B4), May 
	   1977 (A4), April 1979 (A7) & February 1980 (A6); Allen Theatre, 
	   Cleveland, OH. 29 April, 1975, (B6).

	Eric Carr___________________Drums & back-up vocals on A1, A2, B1 & B2.
	Desmond Child_______________Keyboards and back-up vocals on B5.
        Peter Criss_________________Drums & back-up vocals on A3-A5, A7, B3, 
                                    B4 & B6.
	Anton Fig___________________Drums on A6 & A7.
	Richie Fontana______________Drums on B5.
        Ace Frehley_________________Lead & rhythm guitar/lead vocals on A6/
                                    bass on A6 & B5/back-up vocals.
        Bob Kulick__________________Lead guitar on A1, A2, B1 & B2.
	Vini Poncia_________________Back-up vocals on B5.
	Gene Simmons________________Bass/lead vocals on A3, A5, B4 & B6/
                                    back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley________________Rhythm & acoustic guitar/bass on B2/
                                    lead vocals on A1, A2, A4, A5, A7, B1,
                                    B2, B3 & B5/back-up vocals.

  Australian release. Not available on Compact Disc.

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031: KISS KILLERS                    (Japan)
     ------------

  Casablanca/Polystar 28S-58                    Released: May, 1982
  Mercury/Nippon-Phonogram PPD-8011             CD re-issue  October, 1989
  Polystar/Casablanca P33C-20012 

	A1. I'm A Legend Tonight                   (3.59) - AM/PS
	A2. Down On Your Knees                     (3.31) - PS/MJ/BA
	A3. Cold Gin                               (4.20) - AF
	A4. Love Gun                               (3.17) - PS
	A5. Shout It Out Loud  (remix)             (2.40) - GS/PS/BE
	A6. Escape From The Island                 (2.52) - AF/BE/EC
	A7. Sure Know Something                    (3.59) - PS/VP
	B1. Nowhere To Run                         (4.32) - PS
	B2. Partners In Crime                      (3.45) - PS/AM
	B3. Detroit Rock City                      (3.53) - PS/BE
	B4. God Of Thunder                         (4.11) - PS
	B5. I Was Made For Lovin' You              (4.18) - PS/VP/DC2
	B6. Shandi                                 (3.35) - PS/VP
	B7. Rock And Roll All Nite (live)          (3.58) - PS/GS

  Produced by Michael James Jackson (A1, A2, B1 & B2); Kenny Kerner 
           & Richie Wise (A3); Eddie Kramer (B6); Eddie Kramer & KISS (A4);
           Bob Ezrin (A5, A6, B3 & B4) and Vini Poncia (A6, B5 & B6).
  Recorded at The Record Plant, LA, April 1982 (A1, A2, B1 & B2), February 
	   1979 (B5); Bell Sound Studios, NYC.  October 1973 (A3); Record 
	   Plant Studios, NYC. January-February, 1976 (A5, B3 & B4), May 1977 
	   (A4), April 1979 (A7) & January  1980 (B6); Ace In The Hole Studio,
	   Connecticut, July 1981 (A6); Allen Theatre, Cleveland, OH. 29 
	   April, 1975 (B7).

	Eric Carr___________________Drums & back-up vocals on A1, A2, B1 & B2.
	Desmond Child_______________Keyboards and back-up vocals on B5.
        Peter Criss_________________Drums & back-up vocals on A3-A6, B3, B4 &
                                    B6.
	Anton Fig___________________Drums on A7.
	Richie Fontana______________Drums on B5.
        Ace Frehley_________________Lead & rhythm guitar/bass on B5/back-up 
                                    vocals.
        Bob Kulick__________________Lead guitar on A1, A2, B1 & B2.
	Vini Poncia_________________Back-up vocals on B5.
	Gene Simmons________________Bass/lead vocals on A3, A5, B4 & B6/
                                    back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley________________Rhythm & acoustic guitar/bass on B2/
                                    lead vocals on A1, A2, A4, A5, A6, B1,
                                    B2, B3 & B5/back-up vocals.

  European configuration adding 1980 single "Shandi" (see 024) and "Escape
  From The Island", previously unreleased in Japan.

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032: CREATURES OF THE NIGHT    
     ----------------------

  Casablanca NBLP 7270  (US)                     Released: 13 October, 1982
  Casablanca/Phonogram 6302-219  (Europe)
  P33C-20013, 28S-138 (Japan)
  RIAA: Gold         Billboard Chart Peak: #45      Rating:  ****1/2 


	A1. Creatures Of The Night                 (4.01) - PS/AM
	A2. Saint And Sinner                       (4.50) - GS/MJ
	A3. Keep Me Comin'                         (4.00) - PS/AM
	A4. Rock And Roll Hell                     (4.08) - GS/BA/JV2
	A5. Danger                                 (3.55) - PS/AM
	B1. I Love It Loud                         (4.12) - GS/VC
	B2. I Still Love You                       (6.06) - PS/VC
	B3. Killer                                 (3.19) - GS/VC
	B4. War Machine                            (4.13) - GS/BA/JV2

  Produced by Michael James Jackson, Paul Stanley & Gene Simmons.
  Recorded at The Record Plant Studios, LA. July-September, 1982 by
           Dave Wittman. Drums recorded at Record One Studios, LA. 
           July, 1982 by Niko Bolas and Rich Bosworth. Drums on A3
           recorded at Media Sound, NYC. July, 1982 by Michael Barbiero.
	   Additional Engineering by Ricky Delano, Kevin Eddy and
	   David Blanco.
  Mixed at The Power Station Studios, NYC. by Bob Clearmountain and
           Gene Simmons.

	Eric Carr______________Drums/bass on B2/back-up vocals.
        Steven Ferris__________Lead guitar on A1.
        Robben Ford____________Lead guitar on B2.
	Ace Frehley____________Guitar (unclear on which tracks).
	Bob Kulick_____________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.
	Gene Simmons___________Bass/rhythm guitar on B3/lead vocals on A2,
                               A4, B1, B3 & B4/back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley___________Lead & rhythm guitar/lead vocals on A1, A3,
                               A5 & B2/back-up vocals.
        Vinnie Vincent_________Lead and rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.

  Famous blue cover later changed for reissue. This particular version of
  the album, in its original mix and cover has not yet been reissued on 
  Compact Disc. First KISS album to include lyrics on record sleeve. 

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033: HOTTER THAN METAL  (*)          (Holland)  
     -----------------

  Phonogram (cat # N/A)                         Released: (Month?), 1982

	A1. Deuce                                  (3.32) - GS
	A2. Strutter                               (3.12) - PS/GS
	A3. Got To Choose                          (3.35) - PS
	A4. Hotter Than Hell                       (3.11) - PS
	A5. Firehouse                              (3.42) - PS
	B1. Nothin' To Lose                        (3.23) - GS
	B2. C'mon And Love Me                      (2.52) - PS
	B3. Parasite                               (3.21) - AF
	B4. She                                    (6.42) - GS/SC

  Dutch-only release. Contents are disc 1 of ALIVE! (entry 007).

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034: SUPER STAR  (*)                 (Italy)   
     ----------

  Polygram (Cat # N/A)                          Released: (Month?), 1982  

	A1. Deuce                                  (3.32) - GS
	A2. Strutter                               (3.12) - PS/GS
	A3. Got To Choose                          (3.35) - PS
	A4. Hotter Than Hell                       (3.11) - PS
	A5. Firehouse                              (3.42) - PS
	B1. Nothin' To Lose                        (3.23) - GS
	B2. C'mon And Love Me                      (2.52) - PS
	B3. Parasite                               (3.21) - AF
	B4. She                                    (6.42) - GS/SC

  Italian-only disc, released as part of the Supe Star series. Gatefold
  cover and photo booklet on Kiss. Contents are disc 1 of ALIVE! (entry 007).

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035: LICK IT UP    
     ----------

  Mercury/PolyGram  814-297-1/2/4               Released: 18 September, 1983
  Casablanca/Polystar 28S-181 (Japan with makeup cover)
  P33C-20014 (Japan CD)
  RIAA: Platinum        Billboard Chart Peak: #24     Rating:  ***

	1.  Exciter                                (4.10) - PS/VV
	2.  Not For The Innocent                   (4.32) - GS/VV
	3.  Lick It Up                             (3.59) - PS/VV
	4.  Young And Wasted                       (4.04) - GS/VV
	5.  Gimme More                             (3.41) - PS/VV
	6.  All Hell's Breakin' Loose              (4.34) - EC/PS/VV/GS
	7.  A Million To One                       (4.17) - PS/VV
	8.  Fits Like A Glove                      (4.04) - GS
	9.  Dance All Over Your Face               (4.13) - GS
	10. And On The 8th Day                     (4.02) - GS/VV
 
  Produced by Michael James Jackson, Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley.
  Recorded and Mixed at Right Track Studios, NYC. by Frank Filipetti &
           Moria Marquis, July & August, 1983. Additional Recording 
           Engineered by Dave Wittman and Stephen Benben at Atlantic 
	   Studios, NYC & Danny Caccavo at The Hit Factory, NYC.
	   Tracks 3, 9 & 10 Engineered by Rob Freeman at The Record Plant
	   Studios, NYC.

	Eric Carr__________________Drums/back-up vocals.
	Gene Simmons_______________Bass/lead vocals on 2, 4, 8, 9 & 10/
                                   back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley_______________Rhythm guitar/lead vocals on 1, 3, 5,
                                   6 & 7/back-up vocals.
        Vinnie Vincent_____________Lead and rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.

  First KISS Compact Disc, released in October 1983 in Europe. Early german
  pressings included lyric booklet, which has been omited from newer US
  pressings.

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036: ANIMALIZE   
     ---------

  Mercury/PolyGram 822-495-1/2/4                Released: 13 September, 1984
  P33C-20015, 28SA-250 (Japan)
  RIAA: Platinum       Billboard Chart Peak: #19     Rating:  ***

	1.  I've Had Enough (Into The Fire)        (3.50) - PS/DC2
	2.  Heaven's On Fire                       (3.18) - PS/DC2
	3.  Burn Bitch Burn                        (4.38) - GS
	4.  Get All You Can Take                   (3.42) - PS/MW
	5.  Lonely Is The Hunter                   (4.27) - GS
	6.  Under The Gun                          (3.59) - PS/EC/DC2
	7.  Thrills In The Night                   (4.18) - PS/JB2
	8.  While The City Sleeps                  (3.39) - GS/MW
	9.  Murder In High-Heels                   (3.51) - GS/MW

  Produced by Paul Stanley. Associate producer Gene Simmons. Drums 
           Produced by Michael James Jackson.
  Recorded at Right Track Studios, NYC. by Chris Minto and Timothy Crich,
           July, 1984. Additional Recording by Dave Wittman.
  Mixed by Dave Wittman.

	Jean Beauvoir____________Bass on 4 & 7/back-up vocals.
	Desmond Child____________Back-up vocals.
        Eric Carr________________Drums/bass overdubs on 6/back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons_____________Bass/lead vocals on 3, 5, 8 & 9/back-up
                                 vocals.
	Paul Stanley_____________Lead & rhythm guitar/lead vocals on 1,
                                 2, 4, 6 & 7/back-up vocals.
        Mark St. John____________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.

  Mark St. John's only album with KISS. Early german CDs included lyric
  booklet, ommited in US pressings. Best selling KISS album of the 1980s;
  not yet certified Double Platinum despite having sold more than two million
  copies.

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037: O ROCK DE KISS  (*)              (Brazil)     
     --------------

  Philips (Cat # N/A)                          Released: (Month?), 1984

	A1. Rock And Roll All Nite                - PS/GS
	A2. I Was Made For Lovin' You             - PS/VP/DC2
	A3. Shandi                                - PS/VP
	A4. All American Man                      - PS/SD
	A5. Hotter Than Hell                      - PS
	B1. Sure Know Something                   - PS/VP
	B2. Love Gun                              - PS
	B3. Nowhere To Run                        - PS
	B4. She's So European                     - GS/VP
	B5. A World Without Heroes                - PS/BE/LR/GS
	C1. I Love It Loud                        - PS/VC
	C2. Detroit Rock City                     - PS/BE
	C3. Shock Me                              - AF
	C4. Naked City                            - GS/RK/PC2/VP
	C5. Do You Love Me                        - KF/BE/PS
	D1. Creatures Of The Night                - PS/AM
	D2. Rock Bottom                           - PS/AF
	D3. Beth                                  - PC/SP/BE
	D4. Charisma                              - GS/HM
	D5. Take Me Away (Together As One)        - PS/MJ

  Brazilian-only compilation. Very rare.

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038: THE SINGLES (*)                  (Australia) 
     -----------

  Concepts CC0013                              Released: (Month?), 1985

	A1. I Was Made For Lovin' You              - PS/VP/DC2
        A2. Rock And Roll All Nite                 - PS/GS
	A3. Sure Know Something                    - PS/VP
	A4. Shout It Out Loud                      - GS/PS/BE
	A5. Hard Luck Woman                        - PS
	A6. Shandi                                 - PS/VP
	A7. I                                      - GS/BE
	A8. I Love It Loud                         - PS/VC
	B1. Strutter '78                           - PS/GS
	B2. Talk To Me                             - AF
	B3. Beth                                   - PC/SP/BE
	B4. Detroit Rock City                      - PS/BE
	B5. Calling Dr. Love                       - GS
	B6. Then She Kissed Me                     - JB/EG/PS2
	B7. Lick It Up                             - PS/VV
	B8. Heaven's On Fire                       - PS/DC2

  Australian only compilation, not on the PolyGram label. Deleted.

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039: CREATURES OF THE NIGHT  (Re-release)
     ----------------------

  Mercury/PolyGram 824-154-1/4                 Released: 14 July, 1985
  Mercury/PolyGram 824-154-2                   CD re-issue July, 1987


	A1. Creatures Of The Night                 (4.01) - PS/AM
	A2. Killer                                 (3.19) - GS/VC
	A3. Keep Me Comin'                         (4.00) - PS/AM	
	A4. Rock And Roll Hell                     (4.08) - GS/BA/JV2
	A5. Danger                                 (3.55) - PS/AM
	B1. I Love It Loud                         (4.12) - GS/VC
	B2. I Still Love You                       (6.06) - PS/VC
	B3. Saint And Sinner                       (4.50) - GS/MJ
	B4. War Machine                            (4.13) - GS/BA/JV2

  Produced by Michael James Jackson, Paul Stanley & Gene Simmons.
  Recorded at The Record Plant Studios, LA. July-September, 1982 by
           Dave Wittman. Drums recorded at Record One Studios, LA. 
           July, 1982 by Niko Bolas and Rich Bosworth. Drums on A3
           Additional Engineering by Ricky Delano, Kevin Eddy and
	   recorded at Media Sound, NYC. July, 1982 by Michael Barbiero.
  Mixed at The Power Station Studios, NYC. by Bob Clearmountain and
           Gene Simmons. Tracks A1, B2 & B4 Remixed by Dave Wittman at
           Electric Lady Studios, NYC. 1985.

	Eric Carr______________Drums/bass on B2/back-up vocals.
        Steven Ferris__________Lead guitar on A1.
        Robben Ford____________Lead guitar on B2.
	Ace Frehley____________Guitar (unclear on which tracks).
	Bob Kulick_____________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.
	Gene Simmons___________Bass/rhythm guitar on A2/lead vocals on A2,
                               A4, B1, B3 & B4/back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley___________Lead & rhythm guitar/lead vocals on A1, A3,
                               A5 & B2/back-up vocals.
        Vinnie Vincent_________Lead and rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.

  Tracks A1, B2 and B4 remixed for reissue. Original blue cover replaced with
  1985 picture of band with Bruce Kulick who does not play on the album.
  
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040: ASYLUM 
     ------

  Mercury/PolyGram  826-099-1/2/4               Released: 16 September, 1985
  RIAA: Platinum       Billboard Chart Peak: #20     Rating:  **1/2

	1.  King Of The Mountain                   (4.17) - PS/BK/DC2
	2.  Any Way You Slice It                   (4.02) - GS/HR
	3.  Who Wants To Be Lonely                 (4.01) - PS/DC2/JB2
	4.  Trial By Fire                          (3.25) - GS/BK
	5.  I'm Alive                              (3.43) - PS/BK/DC2
	6.  Love's A Deadly Weapon                 (3.29) - GS/PS/RW/WB
	7.  Tears Are Falling                      (3.55) - PS
	8.  Secretly Cruel                         (3.41) - GS
	9.  Radar For Love                         (3.25) - PS/DC2
	10. Uh! All Night                          (3.43) - PS/DC2/JB2

  Produced by Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons.
  Recorded and Mixed at Electric Lady Studios, NYC. by Dave Wittman,
           Assisted by Ed Garcia and Ken Steiger. June & July, 1985. 
           Additional Recording at Right Track Studios, NYC.

	Eric Carr___________________Drums/back-up vocals.
        Bruce Kulick________________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.
        Gene Simmons________________Bass/rhythm guitar on 2 & 4/lead vocals
                                    on 2, 4, 6 & 8/back-up vocals.
	Paul Stanley________________Rhyhtm guitar/bass/lead vocals on 1, 
                                    3, 5, 7, 9 & 10/back-up vocals.

  German copies include lyric booklet, present in only certain US pressings
  of the CD. LP contained a total of 16 individual pictures but only 4 are
  found on the CD booklet. "I'm Alive" initially titled "Run For Your Life".
 
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041: CRAZY NIGHTS      
     ------------

  Mercury/PolyGram 832-626-1/2/4                Released: 18 September, 1987
  Mercury/PolyGram 832-903-1  (German Picture Disc)
  RIAA: Platinum       Billboard Chart Peak: #18     Rating:  **1/2

	1.  Crazy Crazy Nights                     (3.45) - PS/AM
	2.  I'll Fight Hell To Hold You            (4.10) - PS/AM/BK
	3.  Bang Bang You                          (3.53) - PS/DC2
	4.  No, No, No                             (4.19) - GS/BK/EC
	5.  Hell Or High Water                     (3.28) - GS/BK
	6.  My Way                                 (3.58) - PS/DC2/BT
	7.  When Your Walls Come Down              (3.25) - PS/AM/BK
	8.  Reason To Live                         (3.59) - PS/DC2
	9.  Good Girl Gone Bad                     (4.35) - GS/DS/PD
	10. Turn On The Night                      (3.19) - PS/DW
	11. Thief In The Night                     (4.05) - GS/MW

  Produced by Ron Nevison.
  Recorded at One on One Recording Studios, Canoga Park, CA. by Ron Nevison
           and Toby Wright;  Rumbo Recorders, Canoga Park, CA. by Ron
	   Nevison and Julian Stoll; Can-Am Recorders, Tarzana, CA. by
           Ron Nevison and Jeff Poe. March-June, 1987.
  Mixed at Can-Am Recorders by Ron Nevison, June & July, 1987.

	Phil Ashley_______________Keyboards
        Eric Carr_________________Drums/back-up vocals.
        Tom Kelly_________________Back-up vocals.
        Bruce Kulick______________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.
	Gene Simmons______________Bass/lead vocals on 4, 5, 9 & 11/back-up
                                  vocals.
        Paul Stanley______________Rhythm guitar/keyboards/lead vocals on
                                  1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8 & 10/back-up vocals.

  Very poor sound production by Nevison. Two tracks from these sessions 
  remain shelved, "Hide Your Heart" and "Sword And Stone". Promo CDs
  mistakenly list sparc code as DDD, not AAD. Limited edition boxed CD
  included makeup cover, three postcards and one makeup sticker; only 500 
  of these were made.

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042: CHIKARA  (*)                    (Japan)
     -------

  Polystar P30R-20008                            Released: May, 1988

	1.  Rock And Roll All Nite                 (2.48) - PS/GS
	2.  Detroit Rock City                      (5.14) - PS/BE
	3.  Love Gun                               (3.17) - PS
	4.  I Was Made For Lovin' You (remix)      (7.56) - PS/VP/DC2
	5.  Creatures Of The Night (remix)         (4.02) - PS/AM
	6.  I Love It Loud (remix)                 (4.15) - PS/VC
	7.  War Machine (remix)                    (4.15) - GS/BA/JV2
	8.  Lick It Up                             (3.55) - PS/VV
	9.  All Hell's Breakin' Loose              (4.33) - EC/PS/VV/GS
	10. Heaven's On Fire                       (4.21) - PS/DC2
	11. Thrills In The Night                   (4.00) - PS/JB2
	12. Who Wants To Be Lonely                 (4.00) - PS/DC2/JB2
	13. Uh! All Night                          (4.01) - PS/DC2/JB2
	14. Tears Are Falling                      (3.55) - PS

  Japanese only compililation with three new remixes (tracks 5, 6 & 7),
  and the 12" single version of "I Was Made For Lovin' You". Deleted since 
  1988 and therefore difficult to get. Current prices for this CD run in the
  neighbourhood of US$80-100.

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043: SMASHES, THRASHES, & HITS 
     -------------------------

  Mercury/PolyGram 836-427-1/2/4  (US)           Released: 16 November, 1988
  Pye 2006 (UK, red vinyl LP)
  RIAA: Platinum       Billboard Chart Peak: #21     Rating:  ***
	
	1.  Let's Put The X In Sex                 (3.48) - PS/DC2
	2.  (You Make Me) Rock Hard                (3.26) - PS/DC2/DW
	3.  Love Gun (remix)                       (3.31) - PS
	4.  Detroit Rock City (remix)              (3.45) - PS/BE
	5.  I Love It Loud (remix)                 (2.44) - GS/VC
	6.  Deuce (remix)                          (3.20) - GS
	7.  Lick It Up                             (3.53) - PS/VV
	8.  Heaven's On Fire                       (3.19) - PS/DC2
	9.  Calling Dr. Love (remix)               (3.38) - GS
	10. Strutter (remix)                       (3.38) - PS/GS
	11. Beth                                   (2.46) - PC/SP/BE
	12. Tears Are Falling                      (3.54) - PS
	13. I Was Made For Lovin' You              (4.29) - PS/VP/DC2
	14. Rock And Roll All Nite (remix)         (2.56) - PS/GS
	15. Shout It Out Loud (remix)              (3.07) - GS/PS/BE

  Produced by Paul Stanley (1, 2 & 8); Bob Ezrin (4, 11 & 15);
           Eddie Kramer (9); Eddie Kramer and KISS (3); Vini
           Poncia (13); Neil Bogart and KISS (14); Kenny Kerner &
           Richie Wise (6 & 10); James Jackson, Paul Stanley & 
           Gene Simmons (5 & 7); Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley (12).
  Recorded at  Right Track Studios, NYC. and The Townhouse, London,
           July 1988 (1 & 2); Bell Sound Studios, NYC, October, 1973
           (6 & 10); Electric Lady Studios, NYC, February, 1975
           (14); Record Plant Studios, NYC,  January-February, 1976
           (4, 11 & 15), May, 1977 (3), February 1979 (13), June 1985 (12); 
	   Star Theatre, Naunet, NY. September, 1976 (9);  The Record 
	   Plant Studios, LA. July 1982 (5);  Right Track Studios, NYC. 
	   July 1983 (7), July 1984 (8).
  Mixed by David Thoener (1 & 2). Digital Remixes by Brian Foraker and
           Paul Wertheimer at the Record Plant Studios, LA. August, 1988.
 
        Eric Carr_________________Drums/lead vocals on 11/back-up vocals.
        Desmond Child_____________Keyboards & back-up vocals on 13.
	Peter Criss_______________Drums on 3, 4, 6, 9, 10, 14 & 15/back-up 
                                  vocals.
	Richie Fontana____________Drums on 13.
	Ace Frehley_______________Lead, rhythm guitar and back-up vocals
                                  on 3, 4, 6, 9, 10, 13, 14 & 15/bass on 13.
        Bruce Kulick______________Lead & rhythm guitar on 1, 2 & 12/back-up 
                                  vocals.
	Vini Poncia_________________Back-up vocals on 13.
        Gene Simmons______________Bass/lead vocals on 5, 6, 9, 14 & 15/
                                  back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley______________Rhythm guitar/keyboards/lead vocals on
                                  1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13 & 15/back-up
                                  vocals.

  Last record released under first 5-year contract with Mercury/PolyGram.
  Band did not tour to support album, but Paul Stanley performed "X in
  Sex" on his solo tour. None of the song were re-recorded except for the
  vocal track on "Beth". US version contains remixed version of "Calling
  Dr. Love", while European one has the original 1976 mix.

_______________________________________________________________________________


044: SMASHES, THRASHES, & HITS        (Europe)
     -------------------------

  Vertigo/Phonogram 836-759-1/2/4                Released: 16 November, 1988

	1.  Let's Put The X In Sex                 (3.48) - PS/DC2
	2.  Crazy Crazy Nights                     (3.45) - PS/AM
	3.  (You Make Me) Rock Hard                (3.26) - PS/DC2/DW
	4.  Love Gun (remix)                       (3.31) - PS
	5.  Detroit Rock City (remix)              (3.45) - PS/BE
	6.  I Love It Loud (remix)                 (2.44) - GS/VC
	7.  Reason To Live                         (2.59) - PS/DC2
	8.  Lick It Up                             (3.53) - PS/VV
	9.  Heaven's On Fire                       (3.19) - PS/DC
        10. Calling Dr. Love (CD bonus track)      (3.38) - GS
	11. Strutter (remix)                       (3.38) - PS/GS
	12. Beth                                   (2.46) - PC/SP/BE
	13. Tears Are Falling                      (3.54) - PS
	14. I Was Made For Lovin' You              (4.29) - PS/VP/DC2
	15. Rock And Roll All Nite (remix)         (2.56) - PS/GS
	16. Shout It Out Loud (remix)              (3.07) - GS/PS/BE

  Produced by Paul Stanley (1, 2 & 9); Bob Ezrin (5, 12 & 16);
           Eddie Kramer (10); Eddie Kramer and KISS (4); Vini
           Poncia (14); Neil Bogart and KISS (15); Kenny Kerner &
           Richie Wise (11); Ron Nevison (2 & 7); James Jackson, 
	   Paul Stanley & Gene Simmons (6 & 8); Gene Simmons and Paul 
           Stanley (13).
  Recorded at  Right Track Studios, NYC. and The Townhouse, London,
           July 1988 (1 & 3); One on One Recording Studios, Canoga 
	   Park, CA. March-June 1987 (2 & 7); Bell Sound Studios, NYC.
           October, 1973 (11); Electric Lady Studios, NYC. 
	   February, 1975 (15); Record Plant Studios, NYC,  January-
	   February, 1976 (5, 12 & 16), May, 1977 (4), February 1979 (14), 
           June 1985 (13); Star Theatre, Naunet, NY. September, 1976 (10);  
	   The Record Plant Studios, LA. July 1982 (6);  Right Track 
	   Studios, NYC. July 1983 (8), July 1984 (9).
  Mixed by David Thoener (1 & 3). Digital Remixes by Brian Foraker and
           Paul Wertheimer at the Record Plant Studios, LA. August, 1988.
 
        Phil Ashley_______________Keyboards on 2 & 7.
        Eric Carr_________________Drums/lead vocals on 12/back-up vocals.
        Desmond Child_____________Keyboards & back-up vocals on 14.
	Peter Criss_______________Drums on 4, 5, 10, 11, 15 & 16/back-up 
                                  vocals.
	Richie Fontana____________Drums on 14.
	Ace Frehley_______________Lead, rhythm guitar and back-up vocals
                                  on 4, 5, 10, 11, 14, 15 & 16/bass on 14.
        Tom Kelly_________________Back-up vocals on 2 & 7.
        Bruce Kulick______________Lead & rhythm guitar on 1, 2, 3, 7 & 13/
                                  back-up vocals.
 	Vini Poncia_________________Back-up vocals on 14.
        Gene Simmons______________Bass/lead vocals on 6, 10, 15 & 16/
                                  back-up vocals.
        Paul Stanley______________Rhythm guitar/keyboards/lead vocals on
                                  1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14  & 16/
				  back-up vocals.

  Different versions of this album were released on different media.
  Only the CD contains "Calling Dr. Love" (marked as a bonus track), and
  it is not the same remixed version that appeared on the US album.

_______________________________________________________________________________


045: SMASHES, THRASHES, & HITS: 15 YEARS OF KISSTORY (*)
     -----------------------------------------------

  Mercury/PolyGram 836-887-1 (Picture Disc) (US)   Released: January, 1989
     
  Contents are the same as entry 043, but this album comes in a gatefold 
  cover and includes a bio-eassy by John David Kalodner, discography, 
  videography, 8 photos and a two-sided picture disc (with the album cover 
  on one side and a 1976 shot of the  band on the other). Deleted  since 
  1989; it currently sells for about US$35.00.

_______________________________________________________________________________


046: HOT IN THE SHADE        
     ----------------

  Mercury/PolyGram 838-913-1/2/4                Released: 17 October, 1989
  RIAA: Gold          Billboard Chart Peak: #29     Rating:  **1/2  

	1.  Rise To It                                   (4.08) - PS/BH
	2.  Betrayed                                     (3.38) - GS/TT
	3.  Hide Your Heart                              (4.25) - PS/DC2/HK
	4.  Prisoner Of Love                             (3.52) - GS/BK
	5.  Read My Body                                 (3.48) - PS/BH
	6.  Love's A Slap In The Face                    (4.04) - GS/VP
	7.  Forever                                      (3.52) - PS/MB
	8.  Silver Spoon                                 (4.38) - PS/VP
	9.  Cadillac Dreams                              (3.44) - GS/VP
	10. King Of Hearts                               (4.26) - PS/VP
	11. The Street Giveth And The Street Taketh Away (3.34) - GS/TT
	12. You Love Me To Hate You                      (4.00) - PS/DC2
	13. Somewhere Between Heaven And Hell            (3.52) - GS/VP
	14. Little Caesar                                (3.08) - EC/GS/AM
	15. Boomerang                                    (3.30) - GS/BK

  Produced by Gene Simmons & Paul Stanley.
  Recorded at The Fortress, Hollywood, CA. by Pat Regan and Mikey 
           Davis, July - August, 1989.
  Mixed by Dave Wittman at Cherokee Studio, LA. August, 1989.

	Phil Ashley_________________Keyboards on 3 & 7.
	Eric Carr___________________Drums/bass and lead vocals on 14/
                                    back-up vocals.
	Charlotte Crossley__________Back-up vocals on 8.
	Kim Edwards-Brown___________Back-up vocals on 8.
        Bruce Kulick________________Lead, rhythm & acoustic guitar/bass/
                                    back-up vocals.
	Valerie Pinkston____________Back-up vocals on 8.
	Gene Simmons________________Bass/rhythm guitar on 9/lead vocals
                                    on 2, 4, 6, 9, 11, 13 & 15/back-up
                                    vocals.
        Paul Stanley________________Rhythm guitar/slide guitar on 1/bass/
                                    lead vocals on 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10 & 12. 
                                    
  Mostly 24-track demos. Scheduling conflicts forced the band to leave studio
  early. "Forever" gave KISS first Top-5 hit since 1976. Better mix by Dave
  Thoener exists, but it is as of now, unreleased. Female singers (from a
  Hollywood Baptist church) listed on record as "The Sisters Of No Mercy".
  Boomerang first written for the Crazy Nights album.

_______________________________________________________________________________


047: FIRST KISS LAST LICKS (*) 
     ---------------------

  Mercury/PolyGram PRO 792-1                     Released: February, 1990

	A1. Love's A Slap In The Face                    (4.03) - GS/VP
	A2. Betrayed                                     (3.40) - GS/TT
	A3. Prisoner Of Love                             (3.44) - GS/BK
	A4. The Street Giveth And The Street Taketh Away (3.30) - GS/TT
	B1. Nowhere To Run (1989 remix)                  (4.22) - PS
	B2. Partners In Crime (1989 remix)               (3.49) - PS/AM
	B3. Deuce (demo)                                 (3.27) - GS
	B4. Strutter (demo)                              (4.58) - PS/GS

  Production credits A1-A4 see entry 046; B3-B4 see entry 002; tracks
  B1 & B2 appeared originally on "KISS KILLERS". These versions were
  remixed by Steve Thompson and Michael Barbiero in 1989 for release on 
  this EP. Only 800 copies of this promotional album were pressed, making 
  it one of the most unique and valuable KISS collector's items around.

_______________________________________________________________________________


048: FIRST KISS (*)
     ----------

  Mercury 846-766-2                              Released: October, 1990

        1. KISS
        2. HOTTER THAN HELL
        3. DRESSED TO KILL
        4. DESTROYER


  All full-length CDs. This package remains the only official CD "Boxed 
  Set" by KISS. It sold in a clear plastic box with a sticker on the centre. 
  Rare if you can find it.
 
_______________________________________________________________________________


049: REVENGE  
     -------

  Mercury/PolyGram 848-037-2/4                   Released: 14 May, 1992
  Mercury/Nippon-Phonogram PHCR 36  (Japan, special edition)
  Mercury/Nippon-Phonogram PHCR-1169  (Japan)
  RIAA: Gold          Billboard Chart Peak: #6     Rating:  ****1/2

	1.  Unholy                                 (3.40) - GS/VV
	2.  Take It Off                            (4.50) - PS/BE/XR
	3.  Tough Love                             (3.44) - PS/BK/BE
	4.  Spit                                   (3.32) - GS/XV/PS
	5.  God Gave Rock 'N' Roll To You II       (5.18) - RB/PS/GS/BE
	6.  Domino                                 (4.01) - GS
	7.  Heart Of Chrome                        (4.02) - PS/VV/BE
	8.  Thou Shalt Not                         (3.59) - GS/XD
	9.  Every Time I Look At You               (4.38) - PS/BE
	10. Paralyzed                              (4.14) - GS/BE
	11. I Just Wanna                           (4.07) - PS/VV
	12. Carr Jam 1981                          (2.46) - EC
 
  Produced by Bob Ezrin.
  Recorded at Rumbo Recorders, Track Records, Cornerstone Recorders, 
           Ocean Way Recording, Acme Recording Studios, The Enterprise
           and A&M Studios, December 1991-March, 1992.
  Engineered by Chris Steinmetz, Niko Bolas and Goerge Tutko, assisted
           by Pete Magdaleno, Dick Keneshiro, Bart Stevens, Andy Udoff,
           Julie Last and Richard Hasai.
  Mixed by Mick Guzauski and Rall Rogut at Record One Studios, LA.

	Eric Carr_____________________Drums and rhythm guitar on 12/
                                      back-up vocals on 5.
	Bob Ezrin_____________________Orchestration on 9.
	Bruce Kulick__________________Lead, rhythm & acoustic guitar/
                                      bass on 9/back-up vocals.
	Gene Simmons__________________Bass/rhythm guitar on 6/lead vocals
                                      on 1, 4, 5, 6, 8 & 10/back-up
                                      vocals.
	Eric Singer___________________Drums/back-up vocals.
	Paul Stanley__________________Rhythm & acoustic guitar/lead
                                      vocals on 2, 3, 5, 7, 9 & 11/
                                      back-up vocals.


  Track 5 recorded in March of 1991 for the Bill & Ted's soundtrack album.
  "Carr Jam 1981" an unfinished demo from the (MUSIC FROM) THE ELDER sessions
  (027 & 028) originally written by Eric Carr and Ace Frehley; initially 
  titled "Heaven", a.k.a. "Breakout" (see Ace Frehley entry 293). Frehley's  
  writing credits as well as guitar work were removed for this re-release.
  The limited edition Japanese CD contains a cardboard slipcase, lyric booklet
  in both Japanese and English as well as a photo booklet with indiviual
  photos of each member and their signature, including Eric Carr, and a 1989
  picture of Simmons and Stanley in makeup. The booklets also include a 
  total of 4 pages of Japanese-language text and a discography. Deleted since
  1992. "Paralyzed" written for Hot In The Shade. "Do You Wanna Touch Me Now",
  a Paul Stanley/Dave Sabo composition, still unreleased.

_______________________________________________________________________________


050: ALIVE III                       (US & Canada only)
     ---------

  Mercury/PolyGram 514-777-2/4                  Released: 18 May, 1993
  RIAA: None       Billboard Chart Peak: #9     Rating:  ****1/2

	1.  Creatures Of The Night                 (4.40) - PS/AM
	2.  Deuce                                  (3.42) - GS
	3.  I Just Wanna                           (4.21) - PS/VV
	4.  Unholy                                 (3.43) - GS/VV
	5.  Heaven's On Fire                       (4.02) - PS/DC2
	6.  Watchin' You                           (3.35) - GS
	7.  Domino                                 (3.47) - GS
	8.  I Was Made For Lovin' You              (4.31) - PS/VP/DC2
	9.  I Still Love You                       (6.04) - PS/VV 
	10. Rock And Roll All Nite                 (3.33) - PS/GS
	11. Lick It Up                             (4.18) - PS/VV
	12. Forever                                (4.20) - PS/MB
	13. I Love It Loud                         (3.40) - PS/VV 
	14. Detroit Rock City                      (5.11) - PS/BE
	15. God Gave Rock 'N' Roll To You II       (5.21) - RB/PS/GS/BE
	16. Star Spangled Banner                   (2.38) - FSK

  Produced by Eddie Kramer (for Remark Music Inc.) and KISS.
  Recorded live at the Palace of Auburn Hills, Detroit, MI. 27
        November, 1992; Richfield Coliseum, Cleveland, OH. 28
        November, 1992 and Market Square Arena, Indianapolis, IN.
        29 November, 1992 during "Revenge" tour.
  Mixed by Eddie Kramer and Garth Richardson at A & M Studios, LA.
        assisted by Brian Scheuble, Brain Virtue, Mike Douglass,
        Peter Magadaleno and David Hewitt.
  Digitally Edited by Michael Bernard.

	Bruce Kulick__________________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up
                                      vocals.
        Gene Simmons__________________Bass/lead vocals on 2, 4, 6, 7,
                                      10, 13 & 15/back-up vocals.
        Eric Singer___________________Drums.
        Paul Stanley__________________Rhythm guitar/lead vocals on 1,
                                      3, 5, 8, 9, 11, 12, 14 & 15.

  First live album in 15 years. 10 songs in the can according to Paul 
  Stanley. Live version of "I Just Wanna" severly edited for release.

_______________________________________________________________________________


051: ALIVE III  
     ---------

  Mercury/Phonogram 514-827-2/4                   Released: 18 May, 1993
  Mercury/PolyGram 514-827-1 (US coloured vinyl)  Released: May, 1994

	1.  Creatures Of The Night                 (4.40) - PS/AM
	2.  Deuce                                  (3.42) - GS
	3.  I Just Wanna                           (4.21) - PS/VV
	4.  Unholy                                 (3.43) - GS/VV
	5.  Heaven's On Fire                       (4.02) - PS/DC2
	6.  Watchin' You                           (3.35) - GS
	7.  Domino                                 (3.47) - GS
	8.  I Was Made For Lovin' You              (4.31) - PS/VP/DC2
	9.  I Still Love You                       (6.04) - PS/VV 
	10. Rock And Roll All Nite                 (3.33) - PS/GS
	11. Lick It Up                             (4.18) - PS/VV
	12. Forever                                (4.20) - PS/MB
        13. Take It Off                            (5.38) - PS/BE/XR
	14. I Love It Loud                         (3.40) - PS/VV
	15. Detroit Rock City                      (5.11) - PS/BE
	16. God Gave Rock 'N' Roll To You II       (5.21) - RB/PS/GS/BE
	17. Star Spangled Banner                   (2.38) - FSK

  Produced by Eddie Kramer (for Remark Music Inc.) and KISS.
  Recorded live at the Palace of Auburn Hills, Detroit, MI. 27
        November, 1992; Richfield Coliseum, Cleveland, OH. 28
        November, 1992 and Market Square Arena, Indianapolis, IN.
        29 November, 1992 during "Revenge" tour.
  Mixed by Eddie Kramer and Garth Richardson at A & M Studios, LA.
        assisted by Brian Scheuble, Brain Virtue, Mike Douglass,
        Peter Magadaleno and David Hewitt.
  Digitally Edited by Michael Bernard.

	Bruce Kulick__________________Lead & rhythm guitar/back-up
                                      vocals.
        Gene Simmons__________________Bass/lead vocals on 2, 4, 6, 7,
                                      10, 14 & 16/back-up vocals.
        Eric Singer___________________Drums.
        Paul Stanley__________________Rhythm guitar/lead vocals on 1,
                                      3, 5, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 15 & 16/
                                      back-up vocals.

  Includes track "Take It Off" not available on North American CD pressings.
  Australian version much superior to any other country's pressing in both
  packaging and CD sound quality.

_______________________________________________________________________________


052: ALIVE THE TRILOGY  (*)    
     -----------------
  
  Mercury 5CD Boxed Set                         Released: September, 1993

       1. ALIVE!
       2. ALIVE II
       3. ALIVE III

  Limited edition boxed set containing all the live albums. Issued to radio
  only. Very rare, as only 1000 were made.



_______________________________________________________________________________

                         SECTION TWO: SINGLES & EPs
_______________________________________________________________________________


053: SUMMARY OF US SINGLES AND BILLBOARD CHART PEAK
     ----------------------------------------------

	NOTHIN' TO LOSE			(2/74, did not chart)
	KISSIN' TIME			(4/74, #83)
	STRUTTER			(6/74, did not chart)
	LET ME GO R'N'R			(10/74, did not chart)
	ROCK N ROLL ALL NITE		(5/75, #68)
	C'MON AND LOVE ME		(7/75, did not chart)
	ROCK N ROLL ALL NITE (LIVE)	(10/75, #12)
	SHOUT IT OUT LOUD		(3/76, #31)
	FLAMING YOUTH			(4/76, #74)
	DETROIT ROCK CITY		(7/76, did not chart)
	BETH				(8/76, #7)
	HARD LUCK WOMAN			(12/76, #15)
	CALLING DR. LOVE		(3/77, #16)
	CHRISTINE SIXTEEN		(7/77, #25)
	LOVE GUN			(9/77, #61)
	SHOUT IT OUT LOUD (LIVE)	(11/77, #54)
	ROCKET RIDE			(2/78, #39)
	STRUTTER '78			(4/78, did not chart)
	NEW YORK GROOVE			(9/78, #13)
	RADIOACTIVE			(9/78, #47)
	HOLD ME, TOUCH ME		(9/78, #46)
	DON'T YOU LET ME DOWN		(9/78, did not chart)
	I WAS MADE FOR LOVING YOU	(5/79, #11)
	SURE KNOW SOMETHING		(9/79, #47)
	SHANDI				(6/80, #47)
	TOMORROW			(8/80, did not chart)
	A WORLD WITHOUT HEROES		(11/81, #56)
	I LOVE IT LOUD			(12/82, #102)
	LICK IT UP			(10/83, #66)
	ALL HELL'S BREAKIN' LOOSE	(1/84, did not chart)
	HEAVEN'S ON FIRE		(9/84, #49)
	THRILLS IN THE NIGHT		(1/85, did not chart)
	TEARS ARE FALLING		(9/85, #51)
	UH! ALL NIGHT			(2/86, did not chart)
	CRAZY CRAZY NIGHTS		(8/87, #65)
	REASON TO LIVE			(12/87, #68)
	TURN ON THE NIGHT		(6/88, did not chart)
	LET'S PUT THE X IN SEX		(10/88, #97)
	(YOU MAKE ME) ROCK HARD		(12/88, did not chart)
	HIDE YOUR HEART			(10/89, #66)
	FOREVER				(1/90, #8)
	RISE TO IT			(3/90, #81)
	DOMINO				(5/93, did not chart)

_______________________________________________________________________________


                     7" SINGLES (cassette singles included)



054: NOTHIN' TO LOSE/Love Theme From Kiss
-----Casablanca NEB 0004 (US 1974, no picture sleeve)
-----Casablanca CBX503 (UK 1974, no picture sleeve)

055: KISSIN' TIME/Nothin' To Lose 
-----Casablanca NEB 0011 (US 1974, no picture sleeve)

056: STRUTTER/100,000 Years
-----Casablanca NEB 0015 (US 1974, no picture sleeve)

057: LET ME GO, ROCK 'N ROLL/Hotter Than Hell
-----Casablanca NB 823 (US 1974, no picture sleeve)

058: ROCK AND ROLL ALL NITE/Getaway
-----Casablanca NB 829 (US 1975, no picture sleeve)

059: ROCK AND ROLL ALL NITE/Room Service
-----JET 2318 (Japan 1975, picture sleeve)

060: C'MON AND LOVE ME/Getaway 
-----Casablanca NB 841 (US 1975, no picture sleeve)
-----JET 2335 (Japan 1975, picture sleeve)

061: ROCK AND ROLL ALL NITE (live)/Rock 'n Roll All Nite(studio)
-----Casablanca NB 850 (US 1975, no picture sleeve)

062: SHOUT IT OUT LOUD/Sweet Pain
-----Casablanca NB 854 (US 1976, no picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2408 (Japan 1976, picture sleeve)

063: FLAMING YOUTH/God Of Thunder 
-----Casablanca NB 858 (US 1976, picture sleeve)
-----Casablanca VIP-2433 (Japan 1976, picture sleeve)

064: DETROIT ROCK CITY/Beth
-----Casablanca NB 863 (US 1976, no picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2464 (Japan 1976, picture sleeve)

065: BETH/Detroit Rock City
-----Casablanca NB 863A (US 1976 re-issue, no picture sleeve)
     RIAA: Gold

066: HARD LUCK WOMAN/Mr. Speed 
-----Casablanca NB 873 (US 1976, no picture sleeve)
-----Pye CAN102 (UK 1976, picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2489 (Japan 1976, gatefold sleeve)

067: HARD LUCK WOMAN/Detroit Rock City   
-----VIP 6S-17 (Japan 1976)

068: CALLING DR. LOVE/Take Me
-----Casablanca NB 880 (US 1977, no picture sleeve)
-----Casablanca 140 226 (France 1977, picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2525 (Japan 1977, picture sleeve)

069: THEN SHE KISSED ME/ + 2
-----Casablanca(UK 1977)

070: CHRISTINE SIXTEEN/Shock Me
-----Casablanca NB 889 (US 1977, no picture sleeve)
-----Casablanca CA 504 (Italy 1977, picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2546 (Japan 1977, picture sleeve)

071: CHRISTINE SIXTEEN/Detroit Rock City 
-----PRA-10352 (Japan 1977)

072: LOVE GUN/Hooligan 
-----Casablanca NB 895 (US 1977, no picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2566 (Japan 1977, picture sleeve)

073: SHOUT IT OUT LOUD (live)/Nothin' To Lose (live)
-----Casablanca NB 906 (US 1977, no picture sleeve)
-----Casablanca CA 508 (Italy 1977, picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2584 (Japan 1977, picture sleeve)

074: ROCKET RIDE/Tomorrow And Tonight (live)
-----Casablanca NB 915 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2603 (Japan 1978, picture sleeve)

075: STRUTTER '78/Shock Me 
-----Casablanca NB 928 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)

076: HOLD ME, TOUCH ME/Goodbye
-----Casablanca NB 940 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)
-----Bellaphon BF18636 (Germany 1978,)  
-----Casablanca NB 940 (UK 1978, purple vinyl with picture sleeve 
     and mask--Also part of a package of 4 solo singles)
-----Casablanca CA 522 (Italy 1978, picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2668 (Japan 1978, picture sleeve)

077: NEW YORK GROOVE/Snowblind 
-----Casablanca NB 941 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)
-----Pye CAN135 (UK 1978, no picture sleeve)
-----Casablanca NB 941 (UK 1978, blue vinyl with picture sleeve and mask--Also
                        part of a package of 4 solo singles)
-----Casablanca CA 52? (Italy 1978, picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2669 (Japan 1978, picture sleeve)

078: RADIOACTIVE/See You In Your Dreams
-----Casablanca NB 951 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)
-----Casablanca NB 951(UK 1978, red vinyl with picture sleeve and mask--Also 
                       part of a package of 4 solo singles)
-----Casablanca CA 523 (Italy 1978, picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2691 (Japan 1978, picture sleeve)

079: DON'T YOU LET ME DOWN/Hooked On Rock And Roll
-----Casablanca NB 952 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)
-----Casablanca NB 952 (UK 1978, green vinyl with picture sleeve and mask--Also
                        part of a package of 4 solo singles)
-----Casablanca CA 521 (Italy 1978, picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2692 (Japan 1978, picture sleeve)

080: YOU MATTER TO ME/Hooked On Rock And Roll 
-----Casablanca NB 961 (US 1978 promo, no picture sleeve)

081: RADIOACTIVE/Rockin' In The U.S.A. (live) 
-----Casablanca (Holland 1978 promo, no picture sleeve)

082: NEW YORK GROOVE/Rip It Out 
-----Casablanca (Mexico 1979, picture sleeve)

083: RADIOACTIVE/When You Wish Upon A Star
-----Casablanca NB 951 (Australia 1979)

084: I WAS MADE FOR LOVING YOU (radio edit)/Hard Times (extended) 
-----Casablanca NB 983 (US 1979, no picture sleeve)
-----Pye CAN152 (UK 1979, no picture sleeve)
-----Casablanca 1182 (France 1979, picture sleeve, 2 different)
-----Bellaphon BF1667 (Germany 1979, picture sleeve)
-----Phonogram 6175 014 (Germany 1979,  picture sleeve)
-----Phonogram 6175 014 (Spain 1979, different sleeve)
-----Casablanca CA 527 (Italy 1979, picture sleeve)
-----VIP 2752 (Japan 1979, picture sleeve)
     RIAA: Gold

085: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU/Beth  
-----VIP 6S-16 (Japan 1979)

086: DIRTY LIVIN'/Sure Know Something 
-----Casablanca 1126 (France 1979, picture sleeve)
-----Bellaphon BF 18684 (Germany 1979, different sleeve)

087: MAGIC TOUCH/Save Your Love
-----Casablanca NB 101259 (France 1979, picture sleeve)

088: 2,000 MAN/I Was Made.../Sure Know Something 
-----Casablanca NB 1001 (UK 1979, picture sleeve)

089: SURE KNOW SOMETHING/Dirty Livin'  
-----Casablanca NB 2205 (US 1979, no picture sleeve)

090: SHANDI/She's So European   
-----Casablanca 2282 (US 1980, no picture sleeve)
-----Phonogram 6000 436 (Holland 1980, picture sleeve)
-----Casablanca CA 539 (Italy 1980, picture sleeve)
-----Polystar 6S-6 (Japan 1980, picture sleeve)

091: TOMORROW/Naked City 
-----Casablanca NB 2299 (US 1980, no picture sleeve)
-----Polystar 6S-14 (Japan 1980, picture sleeve)
-----Phonogram 60000 463 (Spain 1980, picture sleeve)

092: TALK TO ME/Easy As It Seems
-----Polystar 7S-33 (Japan 1980, picture sleeve)

093: IS THAT YOU/Easy As It Seems  
-----Phonogram (Australia 1980)

094: IS THAT YOU/Two Sides Of The Coin 
-----Phonogram 6000 514 (Holland 1980, picture sleeve with Eric)

095: THE OATH/Escape From The Island 
-----Polystar 7S-54 (Japan 1981, picture sleeve)

096: I/Just A Boy 
-----Polystar (Japan, picture sleeve)

097: I/The Oath
-----Phonogram 6000 717 (Europe 1981, picture sleeve)
-----Phonogram 6000 717 (Australia - edit - "and the GUTS to stand ...")

098: A WORLD WITHOUT HEROES/Dark Light
-----Casablanca NB 2343 (US 1981, no picture sleeve)

099: A WORLD WITHOUT HEROES/Mr. Blackwell 
-----Casablanca KISS 002 (UK 1981)
-----Casablanca KISS P002 (picture disc)

100: I'M A LEGEND TONIGHT/Love Gun
-----Polystar 7S-70 (Japan 1982, picture sleeve)

101: I LOVE IT LOUD/Killer
-----Polystar 7S-78 (Japan 1982, picture sleeve)

102: I LOVE IT LOUD/Danger 
-----Casablanca NB 2365 (US 1982, picture sleeve)

103: KILLER/I Love It Loud
-----EMI KISS 003 (Europe 1982, picture sleeve with movable tongue)

104: CREATURES OF THE NIGHT/Rock And Roll All Nite (live) 
-----EMI KISS 4 811 122-7 (UK 1982, picture sleeve)

105: LICK IT UP/Dance All Over Your Face
-----Mercury 814 671-7 (US 1983, no picture sleeve)

106: LICK IT UP/Not For The Innocent
-----KISS5 (UK 1983)
-----Mercury MS76206 (Canada 1983, picture sleeve)
-----Mercury 814 498-7 (Holland, Spain, picture sleeve)
-----Mercury KPIC 5 (UK shaped pictured disc edition of 814 498-7)
-----Polystar 7S-99 (Japan 1983, makeup picture sleeve)

107: ALL HELL'S BREAKIN' LOOSE/Young And Wasted 
-----Mercury 818 216-7 (US 1984, no picture sleeve)

108: ALL HELL'S BREAKIN' LOOSE/Gimme More
-----Phonogram 818 108-7Q (Germany 1984, picture sleeve)

109: HEAVEN'S ON FIRE/Lonely Is The Hunter
-----Mercury 880 205-7 (US 1984, no picture sleeve)
-----VER 12 880 205-7 (UK 1984, Holland, picture sleeve)
-----Phonogram 880 205-7Q (Germany 1984, picture sleeve)
-----Polystar 7SA-124 (Japan 1984, picture sleeve)

110: THRILLS IN THE NIGHT/Burn Bitch, Burn
-----Mercury 880 535-7 (US 1985, no picture sleeve)
-----Polystar 7SA-128  (Japan 1985, picture sleeve)

111: THRILLS IN THE NIGHT/Murder In High-Heels
-----Polystar (Japam 1985, picture sleeve)

112: TEARS ARE FALLING/Any Way You Slice It
-----Mercury 884 141-7 (US 1985, picture sleeve)
-----DO7R-2003 (Japan 1985, picture sleeve)

113: BETH/Hard Luck Woman
-----Mercury 814 303-7 (US 1986 re-issue, no picture sleeve)

114: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU/R & R A N (live)
-----Mercury 814 304-7 (US 1986 re-issue, no picture sleeve)

115: UH! ALL NIGHT/Trial By Fire
-----Mercury 884 487-7 (US 1986, picture sleeve)

116: CRAZY, CRAZY NIGHTS/No, No, No 
-----Mercury 888 796-7 (US 1987, picture sleeve)
-----Mercury MS76258 (Canada 1987, no picture sleeve)
-----KISS P 7 888 796-7 (UK 1987, poster bag, picture sleeve)
-----DO7R 2008 (Japan 1987, picture sleeve)

117: REASON TO LIVE/Thief In The Night 
-----Mercury 870 022-7 (US 1987, picture sleeve)
-----Mercury MS76262 (Canada 1987, no picture sleeve)
-----KISS 8 870 022-7 (UK 1987, comes with patch, picture sleeve)

118: TURN ON THE NIGHT/Hell Or High Water
-----Mercury 870 215-7 (US 1988, picture sleeve)
-----KISS P9 870 660-7 (UK 1988, poster bag, picture sleeve)

119: BETH/Hard Luck Woman 
-----Mercury 814 303-7 (US 1988, Timepieces sleeve)

120: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU/R & R A N (live)
-----Mercury 814 304-7 (US 1988, Timepieces sleeve)

121: LET'S PUT THE X IN SEX/Calling Dr. Love
-----Mercury 872 246-7 (US 1988, picture sleeve)
-----Mercury 872 246-7 (UK 1988, Holland, different picture sleeve)
-----Mercury 872 246-4 (US cassette, picture sleeve)

122: (YOU MAKE ME) ROCK HARD/Deuce
-----Phonogram/Vertigo 874 052-7 (Germany 1988, picture sleeve)
-----Mercury 874 052-4 (US cassette, picture sleeve)

123: HIDE YOUR HEART/Betrayed 
-----Mercury 876 146-7 (US 1989, no picture sleeve)
-----Vertigo KISS 10 876 146-7 (UK, picture sleeve, also red vinyl)
-----Mercury 876 146-4 (US cassette, picture sleeve)

124: FOREVER (remix)/The Street Giveth And The Street Taketh Away
-----Mercury 876 716-7 (US 1990, no picture sleeve)
-----Mercury 876 716-4 (US cassette, picture sleeve)
-----Vertigo KISS 11 876 716-7 (UK 1990, picture sleeve)

125: BETH/Hard Luck Woman
-----Mercury 814 303-4 (US 1990, Timepieces cassette reissue)

126: RISE TO IT (full power guitar mix)/Silver Spoon
-----Mercury 875 098-7 (US 1990, no picture sleeve)
-----Mercury 875 098-4 (US cassette, picture sleeve)

127: GOD GAVE ROCK 'N ROLL TO YOU II (sdtrack edit)/Junior's Gone Wild
-----East/West A8696 (UK 1991, picture sleeve)

128: UNHOLY/God Gave Rock 'N' Roll To You II
-----Mercury (Australia 1992, Double A side)

129: UNHOLY/Spit
-----Mercury 866 890-7 (1992, no picture sleeve)

130: DOMINO/Carr Jam 1981
-----Mercury 864 312-4 (US cassette 1992, picture sleeve)

131: EVERY TIME I LOOK AT YOU/Spit
-----Mercury 864 464-4 (Canada cassette 1992, picture sleeve)

132: ROCK AND ROLL ALL NITE
-----Mercury 1994 (7" one sided single. Flipside contains the words "It's
     The Music, Stupid". Very rare.)



                              10" SINGLES



133: HIDE YOUR HEART/Lick It Up/Heaven's On Fire
-----KISP 1010 INT 876 471-0 (UK 1989, picture disc only)



                               12" SINGLES 



134: THEN SHE KISSED ME/+ 2
-----Casablanca (UK 1977)

135: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU (extended)
-----Casablanca NB 298 (US 1979, promotional)

136: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU (extended)/Charisma 
-----Casablanca NBD 20169 (US 1979)
-----CANL 152

137: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU/Hard Times
-----Casablanca (Mexico 1979, clear red)
-----Casablanca (France 1979, clear red)
-----Casablanca (France 1979, yellow)

138: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU/2 others
-----6000562 (Germany, picture disc)

139: 2,000 MAN/Dirty Livin' 
-----Belephon (Germany 1979)

140: CREATURES OF THE NIGHT/Rock And Roll All Night (live)
-----KISS 412 (UK 1982)

141: CREATURES OF THE NIGHT/War Machine/Rock And Roll All Nite
-----Casablanca (US 1982, Promo)

142: CREATURES OF THE NIGHT/Rock And Roll All Nite (live)
-----812 098-1, KISSD 4
     (UK 1982, Double grooved A side, ethced authographed B side)

143: I LOVE IT LOUD/2 others
-----Casablanca (Brazil 1983, promotional)

144: KILLER/I Love It Loud/I Was Made For Lovin' You
-----Casablanca 1982

145: LICK IT UP/Lick It Up
-----PRO 229-1 (US 1983, promotional)
-----KPIC 5 (US promotional shaped picture disc)

146: LICK IT UP/Not For The Innocent/I Still Love You 
-----KISS 512 (UK 1983)

147: ALL HELL'S BREAKIN' LOOSE/All Hell's Breakin' Loose
-----PRO 244-1 (US 1984, promotional)

148: HEAVEN'S ON FIRE/Heaven's On Fire 
-----PRO 311-1 (US 1984, promotional)

149: HEAVEN'S ON FIRE  
-----Verx 12 (1984, comes with poster)

150: THRILLS IN THE NIGHT/Thrills In The Night (radio edit)
-----PRO 326-1 (US 1985, promotional)

151: TEARS ARE FALLING/Tears Are Falling
-----PRO 377-1 (US 1985, promotional)

152: TEARS ARE FALLING/Heaven's On Fire (live)/Anyway You Slice It
-----VERTIGO KISS 612 (UK 1985)

153: UH! ALL NIGHT/Uh! All Night
-----PRO 395-1 (US 1986, promotional)

154: WHO WANTS TO BE LONELY/2 others (1 live) 
-----Japan 1985

155: CRAZY, CRAZY NIGHTS/Crazy, Crazy Nights
-----PRO 531-1 (promotional 1987)

156: CRAZY, CRAZY NIGHTS/No, No, No/-/Lick It Up/Uh! All Night 
-----Vertigo 888 796-1, KISS 712 (UK 1987)

157: CRAZY, CRAZY NIGHTS/No, No, No/-/Heaven's On Fire/Tears Are Falling
-----Vertigo KISS P712 (UK 1987, picture disc)

158: REASON TO LIVE/Reason To Live      
-----Mercury PRO 559-1 (US 1987, promotional)

159: REASON TO LIVE/Thief In The Night/
     Thrills In The Night/Who Wants To Be Lonely 
-----Vertigo KISS 812 (UK 1987)

160: REASON TO LIVE/Thief In The Night/  
     Who Wants To Be Lonely/Secretly Cruel
-----Vertigo KISSP 812 870 058-1 (UK 1987, picture disc)

161: TURN ON THE NIGHT/Turn On The Night 
-----Mercury PRO 572-1 (US 1988, promotional)

162: TURN ON THE NIGHT/Hell Or High Water
     King Of The Mountain/Any Way You Slice It 
-----Vertigo KISS 912 (UK 1988)
-----Vertigo KISS SP 912 INT 870 661-1 (picture disc)

163: HEAVEN'S ON FIRE/Let's Put The X In Sex/2 others 
-----Mercury 1988 (promotional)

164: LET'S PUT THE X IN SEX/Rock And Roll All Nite
     Heaven's On Fire/Tears Are Falling
-----Vertigo KIZZA 1 (UK)

165: LET'S PUT THE X IN SEX/Let's Put The X In Sex  
     Let's Put The X In Sex/Let's Put The X In Sex
-----Mercury (4 different versions, US 1988, promotional)

166: HIDE YOUR HEART/Betrayed/Boomerang  
-----Vertigo 876 147-1, KISS X10 (UK 1989)

167: FOREVER/The Street Giveth And The Street Taketh Away
     Deuce (demo)/Strutter (demo)   
-----Mercury 876 716-1 (US 1990)
-----KISXG11 (gatefold edition with discography)

168: RISE TO IT (edit-remix)/Rise To It (fpgm)
-----Mercury 1990

169: GOD GAVE ROCK 'N' ROLL TO YOU II (soundtrack-edit)
     Junior's Gone Wild (King's X)/Shout It Out (Slaughter)
-----(UK 1991, also available as picture disc)

170: UNHOLY/Unholy
-----Mercury (US 1992, promotional)

171: UNHOLY/Partners In Crime          
     Deuce (demo)/Strutter (demo)
-----Mercury KISS 1212 (UK 1992, white vinyl)

172: UNHOLY/God Gave Rock 'N' Roll To You II (album version)
     Deuce (demo)/Strutter (demo)
-----Mercury (1992, white vinyl)


                        OTHER CASSETTE SINGLES
   

173: REASON TO LIVE/Thief In The Night/
     Thrills In The Night/Who Wants To Be Lonely
-----Vertigo (maxi-single, same programme on both sides, UK 1987)

                                EP's
                                ----

174: PRESUMIDO '78                                
     -------------
   1. Strutter '78/Let Me Go, Rock 'N' Roll
   2. Love Gun/Beth
-----Casablanca 2453 (Mexico 1978, picture sleeve)

175: RADIOACTIVO                                
     -----------
   1. Radioactivo/Hold Me, Touch Me
   2. Neew York Groove/Don't You Let Me Down
-----Casablanca 2463 (Mexico 1978, picture sleeve)

176: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU          
     -------------------------
   1. I Was Made For Lovin' You/Nothin' To Lose
   2. Detroit Rock City/Let Me Go, Rock 'N' Roll
-----Casablanca 2466 (Mexico 1978, picture sleeve)

177: STAR TRAX                                
     ---------
   1. Rock And Roll All Nite/Love Gun
   2. Sure Know Something/Shout It Out Loud
-----Casablanca NB 027 (Australia 1980)

178: SHANDI                            
     ------
   1. Shandi/Mr. Make Believe
   2. Firehouse/Let Me Go, Rock 'N' Roll
-----Casablanca 2472 (Mexico 1980, picture sleeve)

179: TOMORROW                                    
     --------
   1. Tomorrow/Sure Know Something
   2. Christine Sixteen/She
-----Casablanca 2475 (Mexico 1980, picture sleeve)

180: EP
     --
   1. Kissin' Time/I'm The Leader Of The ___ (Brownsville Station)
   2. Radar Love (Golden Earring)/Living In The U.S.A. (Steve Miller Band)

181: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU         
-----Casablanca NB 18667 (UK)

182: DRESSED TO KILL                  
     ---------------
   4 tracks
-----Casablanca CBCD 794 (Brazil)

183: KILLER
-----KISS 003 (UK 1982, limited edition, picture disc)

184: LICK IT UP/(JJ Cale track)     
-----Polygram (Italy 1983)

185: HARD LUCK WOMAN/Detroit Rock City     
-----6S-17 (Japan, picture sleeve)

186: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU/Beth     
-----6S-16 (Japan)

187: STRUTTER (demo)
-----Shante (numbered limited edition)

188: DEUCE                            
-----(Spain, promotional, came with "Hard Magazine")



                        PROMOTIONAL 7" SINGLES
                   

189: NOTHIN' TO LOSE (mono)/Nothin' To Lose (stereo) 
-----Casablanca NEB 0004 (US 1974, no picture sleeve)

190: KISSIN' TIME/Kissin' Time           
-----Casablanca NEB 0011 (US 1974, no picture sleeve)

191: KISSIN' TIME (mono)/Kissin' Time (stereo)               
-----Casablanca NEB 0011DJ (US 1974, no picture sleeve)

191: STRUTTER/Strutter                       
-----Casablanca NEB 0015 (US 1974, no picture sleeve)

192: LET ME GO, ROCK 'N ROLL/Let Me Go, Rock 'N Roll  
-----Casablanca NB 823 (US 1975, no picture sleeve)

193: ROCK AND ROLL ALL NITE (mono)/Same (stereo)
-----Casablanca NB 829 (US 1975, no picture sleeve)

194: C'MON AND LOVE ME/C'mon And Love Me          
-----Casablanca NB 841 (US 1975, no picture sleeve)

195: ROCK AND ROLL ALL NITE (live)/Same (studio)
-----Casablanca NB 850 (US 1975, no picture sleeve)

196: SHOUT IT OUT LOUD/Shout It Out Loud         
-----Casablanca NB 854 (US 1976, no picture sleeve)

197: FLAMING YOUTH/Flaming Youth                 
-----Casablanca NB 858 (US 1976, picture sleeve)

198: DETROIT ROCK CITY/Beth                       
-----Casablanca NB 863 (US 1976, no picture sleeve)

199: HARD LUCK WOMAN/Hard Luck Woman              
-----Casablanca NB 873 (US 1976, no picture sleeve)

200: CALLING DR. LOVE/Calling Dr. Love          
-----Casablanca NB 880 (US 1976, no picture sleeve)

201: CHRISTINE SIXTEEN/Christine Sixteen       
-----Casablanca NB 889 (US 1977, no picture sleeve)

202: LOVE GUN/Love Gun                           
-----Casablanca NB 895 (US 1977, no picture sleeve)

203: SHOUT IT OUT LOUD (live)/Shout It Out Loud (live) 
-----Casablanca NB 906 (US 1977, no picture sleeve)

204: ROCKET RIDE/Rocket Ride                      
-----Casablanca NB 915 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)

205: STRUTTER '78/Strutter '78                 
-----Casablanca NB 928 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)

206: HOLD ME, TOUCH ME/Hold Me, Touch Me      
-----Casablanca NB 940 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)

207: NEW YORK GROOVE/New York Groove           
-----Casablanca NB 941 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)

208: RADIOACTIVE/Radioactive                       
-----Casablanca NB 951 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)

209: DON'T YOU LET EM DOWN/Don't You Let Me Down   
-----Casablanca NB 952 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)

210: YOU MATTER TO ME/You Matter To Me         
-----Casablanca NB 961 (US 1978, no picture sleeve)

211: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU/I Was Made For Lovin' You 
-----Casablanca NB 983 (US 1979, no picture sleeve)

212: SURE KNOW SOMETHING/Sure Know Something    
-----Casablanca NB 2205 (US 1979, no picture sleeve)

213: SHANDI (mono)/Shandi (stereo)               
-----Casablanca 2282 (US 1980, no picture sleeve)

214: TOMORROW/Tomorrow                      
-----Casablanca NB 2299 (US 1980, no picture sleeve)

215: A WORLD WITHOUT HEROES/A World Without Heroes 
-----Casablanca NB 2343 (US 1981, no picture sleeve)

216: I LOVE IT LOUD/I Love It Loud               
-----Casablanca NB 2365 (US 1982, picture sleeve)

217: LICK IT UP/Lick It Up                      
-----Mercury 814 671-7 (US 1983, no picture sleeve)

218: ALL HELL'S BREAKIN' LOOSE/All Hell's Breakin' Loose  
-----Mercury 818 216-7 (US 1984, no picture sleeve)

219: HEAVEN'S ON FIRE/Heaven's On Fire         
-----Mercury 880 205-7 (US 1984, no picture sleeve)

220: THRILLS IN THE NIGHT/Thrills In The Night (radio edit) 
-----Mercury 880 535-7 (US 1985, no picture sleeve)

221: TEARS ARE FALLING/Tears Are Falling       
-----Mercury 884 141-7 (US 1985, picture sleeve)

222: CRAZY, CRAZY NIGHTS/Crazy, Crazy Nights     
-----Mercury 888 796-7 (US 1987, picture sleeve)

223: REASON TO LIVE/Reason To Live               
-----Mercury 870 022-7 (US 1987, picture sleeve)

224: TURN ON THE NIGHT/Turn On The Night        
-----Mercury 870 215-7 (US 1988, picture sleeve)

225: LET'S PUT THE X IN SEX (hot urban mix)/same (hot rock mix)  
-----Mercury 872 246-7 (US 1988, picture sleeve) 

226: HIDE YOUR HEART/Hide Your Heart            
-----Mercury 876 146-7 (US 1989, picture sleeve


                             CD VIDEOS (CDV's)
                       

227: LICK IT UP/3 others                  
-----Mercury 1987

228: TEARS ARE FALLING                         
----------------------
Audio: Tears Are Falling/Any Way You Slice It
       Who Wants To Be Lonely/Secretly Cruel
Video: Tears Are Falling
-----Mercury CDV 870 710-2, 1988 (worldwide)

229: CRAZY, CRAZY NIGHTS                       
------------------------
Audio: Crazy, Crazy Nights/No, No, No
       When Your Walls Come Down/Thief In The Night
Video: Crazy, Crazy Nights
       Directors: Pellerin and Freel; Producer: Stephen Brandman
-----Mercury CDV 080 233-2, 1988 (worldwide)

230: TURN ON THE NIGHT                        
----------------------
Audio: Hell Or High Water/I'll Figth Hell To Hold You
       When Your Walls Come Down/Turn On The Night
Video: Turn On The Night
       Director: Marty Callner; Producer: Bill Brigode
-----Mercury CDV 870 724-2, 1988 (worldwide)

231: LET'S PUT THE X IN SEX              
---------------------------
Audio: Rock And Roll All Nite/Beth (EC vocal)/Love Gun
       Let's Put The X In Sex (3:38)
Video: Let's Put The X In Sex (4:34)
       Director: Rebecca Blake; Producer Jim Czarnecki
-----Mercury CDV 870 750-2, 1988 (worldwide)


                            3" CD SINGLES
                         

232: REASON TO LIVE                        
-----1987

233: TURN ON THE NIGHT/Hell Or High Water      
-----1988

234: HARD LUCK WOMAN/Detroit Rock City      
-----1988 Japan

235: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU/Beth              
-----1988 Japan

236: LET'S PUT THE X IN SEX/Calling Dr. Love    
-----Mercury 872 246-2 US

237: HIDE YOUR HEART/Betrayed                    
-----1989 Japan

238: RISE TO IT (radio edit-remix)/Rise To It (fpgmix)  
-----1990 US (promotional)
 
239: UNHOLY/God Gave Rock 'N' Roll To You II    
-----1992 Japan


                              5" CD SINGLES
                            


240: CRAZY, CRAZY NIGHTS                      
-----Mercury CDP 04 (US 1987, promotional)


241: REASON TO LIVE/Thief In The Night/Tears Are Falling/Crazy, Crazy Nights
-----Mercury 1987 


242: TURN ON THE NIGH/Hell Or High Water/Heaven's On Fire/I Love It Loud
-----Phonogram KISCD 9 (UK 1988)

243: LET'S PUT THE X IN SEX  
-----Mercury 1988 (promotional)

244: HIDE YOUR HEART/Betrayed/Boomerang         
-----Mercury 876 146-2 (US 1989, picture CD)

245: FOREVER (remix)/Creatures Of The Night/Lick It Up/Heaven's On Fire
-----Polygram 876 716-2, KISCD 11 (UK 1990, picture CD)
-----also available with postcard

246: FOREVER (remix)                        
-----Mercury CDP 195 (US 1990, picture CD, promotional)

247: RISE TO IT (fpgmix)/Silver Spoon      
-----Mercury 875 098-2 (US 1990, promotional)

248: RISE TO IT (radio edit)/Rise To It (fpgm remix) 
-----Mercury CDP 242 (US 1990)

249: GOD GAVE ROCK 'N' ROLL TO YOU II (soundtrack-edit)
     Junior's Gone Wild (King's X)/Shout It Out (Slaughter)
-----East West A8696 7567 96275-2 (US 1991, promotional)
-----also available as Picture CD

250: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU/Hard Times/I Was Made For Lovin' You (edit) 
-----Phonogram 874 803-21992 (Germany 1992)

251: UNHOLY (radio edit)                   
-----Mercury KISCD12 (UK 1992, 1 song, promotional)

252: UNHOLY/God Gave Rock 'N' Roll To You II (album version)
     Deuce (demo)/Strutter (demo)
-----Mercury 866 873-2, KISCD 13 (UK 1992, limited edition picture disc)
-----Mercury 866 891-2 (Holland 1992, non picture disc)

253: UNHOLY/I Just Wanna/Give It To You Easy/I Just Wanna (early mix)
-----Mercury (US 1992, promotional 8-track cart for radio)

254: UNHOLY (radio EQ mix)/Creatures Of The Night (remix)
     War Machine/I Still Love You (remix)
-----Mercury CDP 666 (US 1992, promotional)

255: I JUST WANNA/I Just Wanna (radio EQ mix)  
-----Polygram CDP 707 (US 1992, promotional)

256: DOMINO/Domino                            
-----Mercury CDP 681 (US 1992, prmotional)

257: DOMINO/Carr Jam 1981                       
-----Mercury 1992

258: EVERYTIME I LOOK AT YOU (radio EQ mix)  
-----Mercury CDP 776 (US 1992, prmotional)

259: EVERY TIME I LOOK AT YOU/I Just Wanna/Partners In Crime
-----Mercury 864 403-2 (Germany 1992)

260: I LOVE IT LOUD                           
-----Mercury 1993

261: I LOVE IT LOUD/Unholy/Deuce/Creatures Of The Night 
-----Mercury CDP 882 (US 1993, promo, all ALIVE III versions)

262: I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU (live)/I Love It Loud (live)/
     I Was Made For Lovin' You (studio)/Partners In Crime (studio)
-----Mercury 862 491-2 (Germany 1992)

263: DETROIT ROCK CITY (live)                 
-----Mercury 1993 (Promotional)


_______________________________________________________________________________
 
                SECTION THREE: COMPILATIONS & SOUNDTRACKS
_______________________________________________________________________________


264: HARD GOODS
     ----------

  Warner                                    Released: Dec 1973/Jan 1974

	B1. Strutter

  2-LP compilation. First release of a KISS song.

_______________________________________________________________________________


265: RETURN TO CASABLANCA
     --------------------

  Casablanca NBD201142

	Strutter '78
	Do You Love Me
	Rock And Roll All Nite

  U.S. compilation, various Casablanca artists.

_______________________________________________________________________________


266: RETURN TO CASABLANCA VOLUME 2
     -----------------------------

  Casablanca

  U.S. compilation, various Casablanca artists (3 KISS songs).


_______________________________________________________________________________


267: CASABLANCA FAIR SPECIAL DIGEST
     ------------------------------

  Casablanca
  
       1. KISS
       2. Donna Summer
       3. Village People

  One LP each artist, with a 12" picture of each.


_______________________________________________________________________________


268: HEAR 'N AID
     -----------

  Mercury/PolyGram  826-044-1/4                      Released:  May, 1986
  Mercury/Phonogram 826-044-2                        CD re-issue May, 1994

	Heaven's On Fire (live)


  Compilation. KISS track recorded live in Detroit, December, 1984.
  Other artists include Accept, Motorhead, Scorpions, Jimi Hendrix, etc.

_______________________________________________________________________________


269: ENDLESS LOVE (Soundtrack)
     -------------------------

  Polydor                                           Released:  1979

	I Was Made For Loving You

  Soundtrack compilation. One KISS track.

_______________________________________________________________________________


270: THE DECLINE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION PART 2 (Soundtrack)
     -------------------------------------------------------

  Capitol					    Released: 1988

	Under My Wheels

  Alice Cooper and Guns n Roses track features Gene Simmons uttering line
  from the movie: "Sex and rock and roll - the American way"

_______________________________________________________________________________


271: SHOCKER - NO MORE MR. NICE GUY - THE MUSIC  (Soundtrack)
     --------------------------------------------------------

  SBK/Alive Records CDP 93233                    Released: November, 1989

	Shocker                                     (3.58) - DC2, JB2, GM
	Sword And Stone                             (3.57) - DC2, PS, BK
	Shocker (reprise)                           (2.54) - DC2, JB2, GM

  Shocker performed by The Dudes Of Wrath, who include Paul Stanley and
  and Desmond Child on lead vocals. Bruce Kulick plays lead guitar but is
  not credited on the albums' liner notes. Sword And Stone, performed here
  by Bonfire, an unreleased KISS track from the 1987 CRAZY NIGHTS sessions.

_______________________________________________________________________________


272: BILL AND TED'S BOGUS JOURNEY (Soundtrack)
     -----------------------------------------

  Atlantic/Interscope 7567 91725-2              Released: June, 1991
	
	God Gave Rock 'N' Roll To You II           (5.22) - RB/PS/GS/BE

  Soundtrack. Different mix than REVENGE version.

_______________________________________________________________________________


273: DAZED AND CONFUSED (Soundtrack)
     -------------------------------

  Warner Brothers 24533				Released: September, 1993

	Rock And Roll All Nite			   (2.49) - PS/GS 

  1988 remix version of the song. Other artists include Ted Nugent, Black
  Sabbath, Sweet, Alice Cooper, etc. 

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274: SPEED (Soundtrack)
     ------------------
  
  Fox/Arista Records  11018			Released: June, 1994

	Mr. Speed

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275: OTHER COMPILATION ALBUMS
     ------------------------

UNDER ARMED GUARD          NOVEMBER 1975, Japan
ROCK & ROLL OVER WITH KISS 1976, Tracks/Interviews, BURN'S MEDIA CON., U.S.
LOVE FUN                   1977, Comes With Inserts And LOVE GUN, U.S.
4 SOLO ALBUM SET           4 Solo Pic Disc Box, U.K.
BRAZILIAN BOX SET          Includes: UNMASKED
                                     CREATURES OF THE NIGHT
                                     ROCK AND ROLL OVER
                                     DESTORYER
                                     KISS KILLERS
                                     DRESSED TO KILL
UNIVERSAL PRESENTS GIMMIE KISS     POLYGRAM 14 Song Cassette
CRAZY NIGHTS               Box CD With Makeup Cover, 500 Made
                           With 3 Postcards, 1 Makeup sticker
100 WAYS TO WARM YOUR WINTER    w/ Thrills In The Nights
DCC REMASTERS              Phonogram Nov 1992. Compilation including
                           various unreleased versions of KISS classics and
                           the entire Wicked Lester album. Issued as an
			   in-house sampler (never released outside Phonogram);
			   only 112 made.




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                          SECTION FOUR: VIDEOS
_______________________________________________________________________________


276: KISS VIDEO CLIPS:
     -----------------

	C'mon And Love Me.................................1975
	Rock And Roll All Nite............................1976
	Do You Love Me (Incomplete).......................1976  (Unreleased)
	I Want You........................................1976
	Hard Luck Woman...................................1976
	Love 'Em And Leave 'Em............................1976
	Rockin' In The U.S.A..............................1978
	Rocket Ride.......................................1978
	Almost Human (Phanthom Movie Sequence)............1978
	I Was Made For Lovin' You.........................1979
	Sure Know Something...............................1979
	Talk To Me........................................1980
	Talk To Me (Australian)...........................1980
	Shandi............................................1980
	Shandi (England)..................................1980
	She's So European.................................1980
	A World Without Heroes............................1981
	I ................................................1982
	I'm A Legend Tonight..............................1982
	I Love It Loud....................................1982
	I Love It Loud (German)...........................1982
	War Machine.......................................1983
	Lick It Up........................................1983
	All Hell's Breaking Loose.........................1983
	All Hell's Breaking Loose (European)..............1983
	Heaven's On Fire (w/ Mark)........................1984
	Heaven's On Fire (w/ Bruce).......................1984
	Thrills In The Night..............................1984
	Thrills In The Night(Office Video)................1984  (Unreleased)
	Tears Are Falling.................................1985
	Uh, All Night.....................................1985
	Who Wants To Be Lonely............................1985
	Rock And Roll All Nite (Exposed)..................1986
	Crazy Crazy Nights................................1987
	THE MAKING OF CRAZY CRAZY NIGHTS..................1988 *
	Reason To Live....................................1987
	Reason To Live (German)...........................1987
	Turn On The Night.................................1987
	Let's Put The X In Sex............................1988
	You Make Me Rock Hard.............................1988
	Hide Your Heart...................................1989
	THE MAKING OF HIDE YOUR HEART.....................1989 *
	Forever...........................................1989
	Rise To It........................................1989
	Won't Get Fooled Again (live).....................1991 **
	God Gave Rock And Roll To You II..................1991
	Unholy............................................1992
	I Just Wanna......................................1992
	Everytime I Look At You...........................1992
	Rock And Roll All Nite (Dazed And Confused).......1993
	I Love It Loud (Live).............................1993

  * Not exactly video clips but documentaries. Both commercially unreleased
    unfortunately.

  ** Recorded live during the 1985/1986 Asylum tour and planned for "Exposed
    II". Features Eric Carr, Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley on lead vocals.
    Bits and pieces were later used in the making of the "God Gave Rock And
    Roll To You II" video (all the Asylum footage comes from this video). 
    Unfortunately, it is still unreleased.


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277: ANIMALIZE LIVE UNCENSORED
     -------------------------

  RCA/Columbia Pictures Home Video  RCA 60445      Released: 19 April, 1985 
  Pioneer Artists (Laserdisc)

	Detroit Rock City
	Cold Gin
	Creatures Of The Night
	Fits Like A Glove
	Heaven's On Fire
	Thrills In The Night
	Under The Gun	War Machine
	Young And Wasted
	I Love It Loud
	I Still Love You
	Love Gun
	Lick It Up
	Black Diamond
	Rock And Roll All Nite

  Recorded live at Detroit's Cobo Hall,  8 December, 1984.


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278: KISS MEETS THE PHANTHOM OF THE PARK
     -----------------------------------

  Worldvision Home Video 9080                Released:  April, 1986  
  48CD-501 (Japan)  
              
  1978 made-for-TV movie.

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279: EXPOSED
     -------

  PolyGram Video 041489/080101                   Released:  18 May, 1986


	Who Wants To Be Lonely		Video '86
	Uh! All Night			Video '86
	I Love It Loud			Live Rio de Janeiro '83
	Deuce				Live San Francisco '75
	Strutter			Live Detroit '76
	Beth				Live Houston '77
	Detroit Rock City		Live Australia '80
	Tears Are Falling		Video '85
	Lick It Up			Video '83
	All Hell's Breakin' Loose	Video '84
	I Love It Loud			Video '82
	I Stole Your Love		Live Houston '77
	Heaven's On Fire		Video '84
	Ladies' Room			Live Houston '77
	Rock And Roll All Nite		Live Australia '80
	Black Diamond			Live Brazil 1983


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280: CRAZY NIGHTS
     ------------

  PolyGram Video  080301                    Released:  March, 1988

	Crazy Crazy Nights		Video 1987
	Reason To Live			Video 1987
	Turn On The Night		Video 1988

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281: THE INTERVIEW SESSIONS
     ----------------------

  I.S. (no cat # listed)                      Released: (Month?), 1990

  Tape of interviews with Gene Simmons and/or Paul Stanley from 1982-1987,
  plus the Tomorrow Show interview from 1979. Deleted and now only available
  as a bootleg.

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282: X-TREME COLSE-UP
     ----------------

  PolyGram Video  085395                     Released:  July, 1992

	Unholy				Video '92
	Sure Know Something		Video Excerpt '79
	Watching You			Live Excerpt (Winterland '75)
	Black Diamond			Live Excerpt (Cobo Hall '75)
	Cold Gin			Live Excerpt (Capital Center '75)
	Deuce				Live Excerpt (Cobo Hall '75)
	100,000 Years			Live Excerpt (Cobo Hall '75)
	Let Me Go Rock, Rock & Roll	Live Excerpt (Anaheim '76)
	Beth				Live Excerpt (Madison Square Garden'77)
	God of Thunder			Live Excerpt (Japan '78)
	Black Diamond			Live Excerpt (Japan '77)
	Love 'Em And Leave 'Em		Video '76
	Hard Luck Woman			Video '76
	I Stole Your Love		Live Excerpt '77
	I Was Made For Lovin' You	Video Excerpt '79
	World Without Heroes		Video Excerpt '81
	Calling Dr. Love		Live Excerpt (Brazil '83)
	War Machine			Live Excerpt (Brazil '83)
	Lick It Up			Video Excerpt '83
	Let's Put The X In Sex		Video Excerpt '88
	Rise To It			Video '89
	Hide Your Heart.		Video '89
	Forever				Video '89
	I Just Wanna			Video Excerpt '92

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283: KONFIDENTIAL
     ------------

  PolyGram Video 400876033                    Released: 20 July, 1993


        Creatures of the Night
        Deuce
        I Just Wanna
        Unholy
        Heaven's on Fire
        100,000 Years                   (Detroit '76)
        Nothin' To Lose                 (San Francisco '75)
        Hotter Than Hell                (Detroit '76)
        Let Me Go Rock-n-Roll           (Japan '77)
        Domino
        Lick It Up
        Forever
        Take It Off
        I Love It Loud
        God Gave Rock'N'Roll To You 2
        Star Spangled Banner

        Recorded live in Detroit, Indianapolis, and Cleveland, 27-29 
                 November, 1992.
 



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                       SECTION FIVE: TRIBUTE ALBUMS
_______________________________________________________________________________


284: HARD TO BELIEVE: A KISS COVERS ALBUM
     ------------------------------------

  C/Z CZ024                            Released: June, 1990

	1.  Detroit Rock City              by BULLET LAVOLTA
	2.  Parasite                       by SMELLY TOUNGES
	3.  Snowblind			   by SKIN YARD
	4.  Deuce			   by HELLMEN
	5.  Christine Sixteen		   by ALL
	6.  Calling Dr. Love		   by HULLABALOO
	7.  God Of Thunder (+)	           by THE MELVINS
	8.  Beth			   by COFFIN BREAK
	9.  Rip It Out			   by CHEMICAL PEOPLE
	10. I Want You			   by KING SNAKE ROOST
	11. Do You Love Me?		   by NIRVANA
	12. Lick It Up			   by THE HARD ONS
	13. Is That You? (+)		   by GIRL MONSTAR
	14. Sure Know Something (+)        by WHIPPER (Featuring ROCK HARD)
	15. Love Gun (+)                   by SURFIN' CAESARS
	16. War Machine (+)                by THE INSTIGATORS
	17. Deuce (+)                      by TREEPEOPLE
	18. Makin' Love (+)                by THRUST
	19. Charisma (+)                   by PLUNDERERS
        20. Beth                           by THE HARD ONS

  Various Producers.

  Songs marked (+) do not appear on all pressings of the album. Track 20
  unlisted. Available with two different covers, one with the Love Gun faces
  and the other with just a pair of lips. Deleted since 1990 or 1991.


_______________________________________________________________________________


286: FLAMING YOUTH: A NORWEGIAN TRIBUTE TO KISS
     ------------------------------------------

 REC 90/Groovy MNM/Voices of Wonder RID-011  (Norway)    Released: May, 1994

	1.  Deuce                         by GRACELAND
	2.  Strutter                      by GRUNT PEOPLE w/ LINDA JOHANSEN
	3.  Love Gun                      by RAMJAM
	4.  Mainline                      by MOTHER'S LOVE
	5.  Parasite                      by HEDGE HOG
	6.  Tomorrow                      by THE STUCK
	7.  Calling Dr. Love              by BLANT DE PRIMITIVE
	8.  Shock Me                      by MOTORPSYCHO w/ DAG INGEBRIGTSEN
	9.  Beth                          by GARTNERLOSJEN
	10. She	                          by PARAPLEGIC
	11. Strange Ways                  by SPACEMEN STIFF
	12. Watchin' You                  by LOST AT LAST
	13. Shout It Out Loud             by DUMDUM BOYS
	14. Cold Gin                      by MUCK
	15. I Was Made For Lovin' You     by THE JUNGLE MEDICS
	16. Rock And Roll All Nite        by COSMIC DROPOUTS
	17. Greetings To Paul (+)         by BARE EGIL BAND

  Produced and conceived by Trulus Kvernhusvik.
  Recorded at various studios in Norway.
  Edited at Sigma Recording.

  17 bands, most unknown even in Norway, contributed to this album, although
  DumDum Boys and Motorpsycho are two of that country's biggest rock bands.
  Linda Johansen, who appears here with Grunt People is actually the editor
  of a norwegian soft-porn magazine. Track 17 (+) a non-cover bonus track sung
  in Norwegian, not listed on the album's back cover.  The front cover looks 
  like the cover of DYNASTY (023), but the Paul, Ace and Gene's faces have 
  been replaced with plastic-dolls with make-up. Peter's face has been 
  replaced by a small kitten (!).

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286: KISS MY ASS: CLASSIC KISS REGROOVED
     -----------------------------------

  Mercury/PolyGram  314-522123-1 (Red Vinyl)    Released:  7 June, 1994
  Mercury/PolyGram  314-522393-2/4              Released: 21 June, 1994
  Mercury/PolyGram  314-522476-2/4 (outside US)

	1.  Deuce                          by LENNY KRAVITZ w/ STEVIE WONDER
	2.  Hard Luck Woman                by GARTH BROOKS w/ KISS
	3.  She	                           by ANTHRAX
	4.  Christine Sixteen              by GIN BLOSSOMS
	5.  Rock And Roll All Nite         by TOAD THE WET SPROCKET
	6.  Calling Dr. Love               by SHANDI'S ADDICTION
	7.  Going Blind                    by DINOSAUR JR.
	8.  Strutter                       by EXTREME
	9.  Plaster Caster                 by THE LEMONHEADS
	10. Detroit Rock City              by MIGHTY MIGHTY BOSSNOTES
	11. Black Diamond                  by YOSHIKI
	12. Unholy (+)                     by DIE ARZTE

  Various Producers and Recording Studios.

  Track 12 only available on US vinyl and non-US CDs. The most hyped of the 
  three tribute albums. Actually, Gene and Paul were very much involved in
  making this album happen. Track 2 features all four members of KISS as
  Garth Brooks' backing band.
 



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                    SECTION SIX: PETER CRISS DISCOGRAPHY
_______________________________________________________________________________


287: CHELSEA: "CHELSEA" 
     ------------------

  Decca Dl 75262                                Released:  1971

	A1. Rollin' Along
	A2. Let's Call It A Day
	A3. Silver Lining
	A4. All American Boy
	A5. Hard Rock Music
	B1. Ophelia
	B2. Long River
	B3. Grace
	B4. Polly You
	B5. Good Company

  Producer unknown. Engineered by Ron Johnsen.
  Recorded in NYC, 1971.

	Chris Aroidas____________________Guitar.
	Michael Benvenga_________________Bass/vocals.
	Mike Brand_______________________Guitar.
	Peter Criss______________________Drums.
	Peter Shepley____________________Lead vocals.

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288: SOUND CONSPIRACY  (Compilation)
     ----------------

  MCA                                           Released: 1971


  Promotional compilation including one track from Chelsea.

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289: OUT OF CONTROL
     --------------

  Casablanca NBLP 7240                          Released:  June, 1980
  Mercury/Phonogram 6302-065  (Europe)
  VIP 22S-14 (Japan)

	A1. By Myself                               (3.36) - PC/SP/WO
	A2. In Trouble Again                        (3.32) - PC/SP
	A3. Where Will They Run                     (3.54) - PC/SP
	A4. I Found Love                            (4.19) - PC/SP/WO
	A5. There's Nothing Better                  (3.32) - PC/SP
	B1. Out Of Control                          (4.19) - PC/SP
	B2. Words                                   (4.43) - PC/SP
	B3. You Better Run                          (2.40) - FC/EB
	B4. My Life                                 (3.39) - DB/PC/WO
	B5. Feel Like Letting Go                    (5.00) - PC/SP

  Produced by David Wolfert and Peter Criss. Co-produced by Sten Penridge.

_______________________________________________________________________________


290: LET ME ROCK YOU
     ---------------

  Casablanca 6302-194                          Released:  1982

	A1. Let It Go                                (4.00) - TF/DF/BH2
	A2. Tears                                    (3.31) - VV/AM
	A3. Move On Over                             (3.44) - VP/PC
	A4. Jealous Guy                              (3.54) - JL
	A5. Destiny                                  (4.10) - CM/CM2/JS
	B1.  Some Kinda' Hurricane                   (4.02) - RB
	B2. Let Me Rock You                          (3.32) - RB
	B3. First Day In The Rain                    (3.30) - SS
	B4. Feel Like Heaven                         (3.40) - GS
	B5. Bad Boys                                 (3.29) - PC/JR

  Produced by Vini Poncia.

  Released in Europe and America, except the US and Canada. Deleted since
  1982.

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291: CRISS: "CRISS"
     -------------

  Tony Nicole 0004-25E                        Released: December, 1993 

	1. The Cat	                	     (4.36) - PC/MM2/KM/MS
	2. Show Me	                             (4.05) - MM2/MS/PC/XB 
	3. Good Times           	             (4.38) - PC/KM/MM2
 	4. What You're Doin'                         (3.09) - PC/MM2/MS/KM 
	5. Beth		                             (2.48) - PC/BE/SP

  Produced by Dito Godwin and  Peter Criss.
  Co-produced by Mark Montague.

	The Boys____________________Additional background vocals.
	Peter Criss_________________Drums/lead vocals/percussion.
	Dito Godwin_________________Slide guitar on 1.
	Wayne Johnsen_______________Acoustic guitar on 5.
	Kirk Miller_________________Lead guitar/back-up vocals.
	Mark Montague_______________Bass/back-up vocals/taurus peddles (sic).
	Doug Shaw___________________Piano on 3.
	Mike Stone__________________Lead vocals/guitar.

_______________________________________________________________________________

SINGLES:


All By Myself/I found Love
----Casablanca(1980)
----VIP 6S-23 (Japan)

Tears/Jealous Guy     
----Casablanca(1982)

Bad Attitude
----Tony Nicole 0004-2A(1994)





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                     SECTION SEVEN:  ACE FREHLEY DISCOGRAPHY
_______________________________________________________________________________


292: MOLIMO
     ------

   RCA (no cat # available)                      (unreleased 1972)


  First Ace Frehley on vinyl. Album is extremely rare and the contents
  are as of now unknown.

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293: CRAZY JOE AND THE VARIABLE SPEED BAND: "CRAZY JOE AND THE VARIABLE...."
     -----------------------------------------------------------------------

  Casablanca NBLP/5 7254                         Released: 1981

	Eugene

  Track co-written and co-produced by Ace Frehley. He also plays synth drums
  on it, as well on another track "The Gay Ranchero".

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294:  DEMO
      ----

  (no record label)                           (unreleased 1984)

	1. Audio/Video                              (3.56)
	2. The Hurt Is On                           (4.14)
	3. I Got The Touch                          (3.12)
        4. Rock or Be Rocked                        (3.15)
        5. Remember Me                              (3.23)
        6. Baby It's You                            (3.14)
        7. Gotta Find A Party                       (3.38)
	8. The Girl Can't Dance                     (3.17)

  Various producers.
  Recorded in NYC, 1984.

	Anton Fig___________________________Drums.
	Ace Frehley_________________________Lead & rhythm guitar/lead vocals/
                                            back-up vocals.
	John Regan__________________________Bass/back-up vocals.
 	Richie Scarlet______________________Rhythm guitar/back-up vocals.
	Arthur Stead________________________Keyboards.

  Two producers were working with Ace at the time: Vini Poncia, Chris Kimsey.
  It is unclear, though, which producer worked on which tracks.

_______________________________________________________________________________


295: WE GOT YOUR ROCK
     ----------------

  (no record label)                             (unreleased 1985)

	1.  Dancing With Danger                     (3.44)
	2.  Into The Night                          (4.11)
        3.  Angel                                   (3.12)
        4.  Back On The Streets                     (5.38)
	5.  Rock Or Be Rocked                       (3.28)
        6.  Give It To Me Anyway                    (5.20)
	7.  Stranger In A Strange Land              (3.55)
	8.  Dolls			            (2.56)
	9.  Animal                                  (4.12)
	10. Back Into My Arms Again                 (4.48)

  Produced by Ace Frehley and Tony Bongiovi.
  Recorded at The Power Station Studios, NYC, September, 1985.

	Anton Fig___________________________Drums.
	Ace Frehley_________________________Lead & rhythm guitar/lead vocals
                                            on 2, 5, 6, 7, 8 & 10/ back-up 
                                            vocals.
	John Regan__________________________Bass/back-up vocals.
 	Richie Scarlet______________________Rhythm guitar/lead vocals on 1, 
                                            3, 4, 6 & 9/back-up vocals.
	Rob Sabino__________________________Keyboards.

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296: FREHLEY'S COMET
     ---------------

  Megaforce Worldwide 81749-1/2/4                 Released:  1987

	1.  Rock Soldiers                           (5.05) - AF/CT
	2.  Breakout                                (3.38) - AF/EC/RS
	3.  Into The Night                          (4.12) - RB
	4.  Something Moved                         (4.02) - TH
	5.  We Got Your Rock                        (4.12) - AF/MK
	6.  Love Me Right                           (3.54) - AF/IS
	7.  Calling To You                          (4.20) - TW/AF/JM/KR2
	8.  Dolls                                   (3.28) - AF
	9.  Stranger In A Strange Land              (4.02) - AF
	10. Fractured Too (Instrumental)            (4.14) - AF/JR

Produced by Eddie Kramer and Ace Frehley.
Recorded at Right Track Studios and Sound Ideas Studios, NYC, Master Sound 
            Stusios, Astoria, NY and Bear Tracks, Suffern, NY.

	Ace Frehley_________________Lead and rhythm guitar/lead vocals on
                                     1, 3, 5, 6, 8 & 9/back-up vocals.
	John Regan__________________Bass/back-up vocals.
	Tod Howarth_________________Rhythm guitar/lead vocals on 2, 4 & 7/
                                     keyboards/back-up vocals.
	Anton Fig___________________Drums/percussion.

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297: FREHLEY'S COMET:  "LIVE + 1"
     ----------------------------

  Megaforce Worldwide 81826-1/2/4                 Released:  1988

	1. Rip It Out                               (4.34) - AF/LK/SK
	2. Breakout                                 (7.32) - AF/EC/RS
	3. Something Moved                          (3.57) - TH
	4. Rocket Ride                              (4.34) - AF/SD
	5. Words Are Not Enough (studio)            (3.25) - AF/JK

  Produced by Ace Frehley, John Regan, Tod Howarth, and Scott Mabuch.
  Recorded live at the Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, 4 September, 1987.

	Ace Frehley_________________Lead and rhythm guitar/lead vocals on
                                    1, 4 & 5/back-up vocals.
	John Regan__________________Bass/back-up vocals.
	Tod Howarth_________________Rhythm guitar/lead vocals on 2 & 3/
                                    keyboards on 5/back-up vocals.
	Anton Fig___________________Drums/percussion.

_______________________________________________________________________________


298: FREHLEY'S COMET:  "SECOND SIGHTING"
     -----------------------------------

  Megaforce Worldwide 81862-1/2/4                 Released: 1988

	1.  Insane                                  (3.45) - AF/GM2
	2.  Time Ain't Runnin' Out                  (3.52) - TH
	3.  Dancin' With Danger                     (3.25) - AF/DS2/SP2/ST
	4.  It's Over Now                           (4.39) - TH
	5.  Loser In A Fight                        (4.33) - TH/JR
	6.  Juvenile Delinquent                     (5.13) - AF
	7.  Fallen Angel                            (3.44) - TH
	8.  Separate                                (4.56) - AF/JR
	9.  New Kind Of Lover                       (3.14) - TH
	10. The Acorn Is Spinning                   (4.50) - AF/JR

  Produced by Frehley's Comet with Scott Mabuchi
  Recorded at Media Sound Studios, New York City, NY

	Ace Frehley________________Lead and rhythm guitar/lead vocals on
                                   1, 3, 6, 8 & 10/back-up vocals.
	John Regan_________________Bass/back-up vocals.
	Tod Howarth________________Rhythm guitar/lead vocals on 2, 4, 5, 
                                   7 & 9/back-up vocals.
	Jamie Oldaker______________Drums/percussion.

_______________________________________________________________________________


299: TROUBLE WALKIN'
     ---------------

  Megaforce Worldwide 82042-1/2/4                 Released:  1989

	1.  Shot Full Of Rock                       (4.47) - AF/RS
	2.  Do Ya                                   (3.47) - JF
	3.  Five Card Stud                          (4.01) - AF/MF
	4.  Hide Your Heart                         (4.33) - DD/PS/HK
	5.  Lost In Limbo                           (4.10) - RS/AF
	6.  Trouble Walkin'                         (3.08) - BW/PB
	7.  2 Young 2 Die                           (4.29) - AF/RS
	8.  Back To School                          (3.43) - AF/JR
	9.  Remember Me                             (5.01) - CC/AF
	10. Fractured III                           (6.48) - JR/AF

  Produced by Eddie Kramer, Ace Frehley, and John Regan.

	Sebastian Bach__________________Back-up vocals.
	Rachel Bolan____________________Back-up vocals.
	Peter Criss_____________________Back-up vocals and pecussion on 7.
	Peppy Castro____________________Back-up vocals.
	Anton Fig_______________________Drums/percussion.
	Ace Frehley_____________________Lead and rhtyhm guitar/lead vocals
                                        (except on 7)/back-up vocals.
	Al Fritsch______________________Back-up vocals.
	John Regan______________________Bass guitar/synth FX on 10/back-up
                                        vocals.
	Richie Scarlet__________________Rhtyhm guitar/lead vocals on 7/back-up
                                        vocals.
	Davo Sabo_______________________Back-up vocals.
	Pat Sommers_____________________Back-up vocals.
	Sandy Slavin____________________Drums on 6/percussion.

_______________________________________________________________________________

SINGLES:

Rock Soldiers                 
-----Megaforce Worldwide(1987)

Calling To You                
-----Megaforce Worldwide(1987)

Into The Night                
-----Megaforce Worldwide(1987)

Insane                        
-----Megaforce Worldwide(1988)

Separate                      
-----Megaforce Worldwide(1988)

Do Ya                         
-----Megaforce Worldwide(1989)

Do Ya
----Megaforce Worldwide(PR 3010-2, CD-promo, 1989)



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300: FREHLEY'S COMET:  "LIVE... +4"
     ------------------------------

  Atlantic Video 50131-3                          Released: 1988

  
	Rip It Out	 	 (live)
	Something Moved          (live)
	Cold Gin		 (live)
	Shock Me		 (live)
	Breakout		 (live)
	Rocket Ride		 (live)
	Into The Night		 (video)
	Rock Soldiers		 (video)
	Insane			 (video)
	It's Over Now		 (video)

  Filmed live at the Hammersmith Odeon, London,  19 March, 1988.






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                    SECTION EIGHT: VINNIE VINCENT DISCOGRAPHY
_______________________________________________________________________________


301: TREASURE:  "TREASURE"
     ---------------------

  Epic  34890                                       Released:  1977

 
	A1. I Wanna Love You
	A2. Innocent Eyes
	A3. Love Me Tonight
	A4. Subilation
	B1. When The Sun Shines
	B2. My Lady Once Told Me
	B3. Turn Yourself Around
        B4. Think It's Love
        B5. Treasure

  Featuring Vinnie Vincent.

_______________________________________________________________________________


302: DAN HARTMAN: "INSTANT REPLAY"
     -----------------------------

  (Label and cat # unknown)

  
  Features Vinnie Cusano (Vinnie Vincent) on guitar. Other details
  unavailable.

_______________________________________________________________________________


303: VINNIE VINCENT INVASION
     -----------------------

  Chrysalis  CHR 1529                                 Released:  1986

	1.  Boyz Are Gonna Rock                        (4.56) - VV
        2.  Shoot U Full Of Love                       (4.42) - VV
        3.  No Substitute                              (3.52) - VV
        4.  Animal                                     (4.39) - VV
        5.  Twisted                                    (4.33) - VV
	6.  Do You Wanna Make Love                     (3.22) - VV/RF
	7.  Back On The Streets                        (4.48) - VV/RF2
	8.  I Wanna Be Your Victim                     (4.35) - VV
	9.  Baby-O                                     (3.44) - VV
	10. Invasion                                   (5.24) - VV/RF

  Produced by Vinnie Vincent & Dana Strum.
  Recorded at Baby 'O Recorders, Hollywood, CA. Jan-March 1986.

 	Robert Fleischman_____________________Vocals.
	Bobby Rock____________________________Drums.
	Dana Strum____________________________Bass.
	Vinnie Vincent________________________Lead aand rhythm guitar.
	
_______________________________________________________________________________


304: ALL SYSTEMS GO
     --------------

  Chrysalis 209 11                                     Released:  May, 1988


	1.  Ashes To Ashes                             (5.02) - VV
	2.  Dirty Rhythm                               (3.37) - VV
	3.  Love Kills                                 (5.33) - VV
	4.  Naughty Naughty                            (3.29) - VV
	5.  Burn                                       (4.37) - VV
	6.  Let Freedom Rock                           (5.30) - VV
	7.  That Time Of Year                          (4.42) - VV
	8.  Heavy Pettin'                              (4.10) - VV
	9.  Ecstasy                                    (4.35) - VV
	10. Deeper And Deeper                          (3.54) - VV
	11. Breakout                                   (3.59) - VV

  Produced by Dana Strum and Vinnie Vincent.
  Recorded at Cherokee Studios, Hollywood, CA.
            The Sunset Landmark Theatre, Hollywood, CA.

	Bobby Rock____________________________Drums.
	Mark Slaughter________________________Vocals.
	Dana Strum____________________________Bass.
	Vinnie Vincent________________________Lead and rhythm guitar.
	
_______________________________________________________________________________


305: GUITAR FROM HELL
     ----------------

  (Label unknown)                              Released:  1990


  Details about this album unavailable.





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                    SECTION NINE: MARK ST. JOHN DISCOGRAPHY
_______________________________________________________________________________


306: WHITE TIGER:  "WHITE TIGER"
     ---------------------------

  E.M.C. Records   E.M.C. 3653             Released:  1986

	A1. Rock Warriors
	A2. Love, Hate
	A3. Bad Time Coming
	A4. Runaway
	B1. Still Standing Strong
	B2. Live To Rock
	B3. Northern Wind
	B4. Stand And Deliver
	B5. White Hot Desire

  Produced by Mark St. John

  Mark St. John's band after his departure from KISS.




_______________________________________________________________________________

              SECTION TEN: BRUCE AND BOB KULICK DISCOGRAPHIES
_______________________________________________________________________________


307: BALANCE: "BALANCE"
     ------------------

  Portrait  37357                                  Released: (unknown)

  Features Bob Kulick on lead guitar.


_______________________________________________________________________________


308: BALANCE: "IN FOR THE COUNT"
     --------------------------

  Portrait                                         Released: (unknown)

  Features Bob Kulick on lead guitar.

_______________________________________________________________________________


309: BLACKJACK:  "BLACKJACK"
     -----------------------

  Polydor PD-1-6215                                Released: 1979

	A1. Love Me Tonight
	A2. Heart Of Stone
	A3. The Night Has Me Calling For You
	A4. Southern Ballad (If This Means Losing You)
	A5. Fallin'
	B1. Without Your Love
	B2. Countin' On You
	B3. I'm Aware Of Your Love
	B4. For You
	B5. Heart Of Mine

  Songs by Michael Bolton/Bruce Kulick. Bruce plays lead guitar.

_______________________________________________________________________________


310: BLACKJACK:  "WORLDS APART"
     --------------------------

  Polydor                                          Released: 1980

	A1. My World Is Empty Without You
	A2. Love Is Hard To Find
	A3. Stay
	A4. Airwaves
	A5. Maybe It's The Power Of Love
	B1. Welcome To The World
	B2. Breakaway
	B3. Really Wanna Know
	B4. Sooner Or Later
	B5. She Wants You Back

  Featuring Bruce Kulick

_______________________________________________________________________________


311: MICHAEL BOLTON: "MICHAEL BOLTON"
     --------------------------------

  (Label unknown)                                 Released: (unknown)

  Features Bruce Kulick on guitar.

_______________________________________________________________________________


312: MICHAEL BOLTON: "EVERYBODY'S CRAZY"
     ----------------------------------

  (Label unknown)                                 Released: (unknown)

  Features Bruce Kulick on guitar.

_______________________________________________________________________________


313: GOOD RATS:  "GREAT AMERICAN MUSIC"
     ----------------------------------


  Great American Records GAR 8003                 Released: (unknown)

	A1. New York Survivor
	A2. Julie
	A3. Audience
	A4. Hollywood Ending
	A5. Great American Music Halls
	B1. Yes Or No
	B2. Icy Cold
	B3. On My Way To School
	B4. Oh So Good
	B5. Rock And Roll Point Of View

  Bruce Kulick plays lead guitar

_______________________________________________________________________________


314: STEVIE:  "GYPSY"
     ----------------

  (Label and cat # unknown)                       Released: (unknown)

        A1. Fils De La Nuit
        A2. Gypsy
        A3. On Oublie Tout
        A4. Without You
        A5. Radio
        B1. Le Chemin En Arriere
        B2. Coeur Killer
        B3. Tu Me Manques Mec
        B4. Take Me Back

  Featuring Bruce Kulick

_______________________________________________________________________________


315: BILLY SQUIER: "TALE OF THE TAPE"
     --------------------------------

  (Label unknown)                                 Released: (unknown)

  Features Bruce Kulick on guitar.

_______________________________________________________________________________


316: MICHEAL WENDROFF: "KISS THE WORLD GOODBYE"
     ------------------------------------------

  (Label unknown)                                 Released: (unknown)

 
  Features both Bob and Bruce Kulick on guitars.

______________________________________________________________________________


317: MICHAEL WENDROFF: "RECORDED LIVE"
     ---------------------------------

  (Label unknown)                                 Released: (unknown)
 

  Features Bob Kulick.

______________________________________________________________________________


318: MICHEAL WENDROFF: "SOUTHPAW"
     ----------------------------

  (Label unknown)                                 Released: (unknown)


  Features Bob Kulick.

______________________________________________________________________________


319: GUITAR'S PRACTICING MUSICIANS VOL. 2
     ------------------------------------

  (Label unknown)                                 Released: 1991


  Features Bruce Kulick's composition "Zeptune".

_______________________________________________________________________________


320: WASP: "THE CRIMSON IDOL"
     ------------------------

  EMI                                            Released:  1992/1993 US


  Features Bob Kulick on lead guitar.




_______________________________________________________________________________

                      SECTION ELEVEN: ERIC SINGER DISCOGRAPHY
_______________________________________________________________________________


321: BLACK SABBATH: "SEVENTH STAR"
     -----------------------------

  Warner                                         Released:  1986
	A1. In For The Kill
	A2. No Stranger To Love
	A3. Turn To Stone
	A4. Sphinx (The Guardian)
	A5. Seventh Star
	B1. Danger Zone
	B2. Heart Like A Wheel
	B3. Angry Heart
	B4. In Memory...

  Eric Singer plays drums.

_______________________________________________________________________________


322: BLACK SABBATH: "THE ETERNAL IDOL"
     ---------------------------------

  Warner                                        Released: 1987

	A1. The Shining
	A2. Ancient Warrior
	A3. Hard Life To Live
	A4. Glory Ride
	B1. Born To Lose
	B2. Nightmare
	B3. Scarlet Pimpernel
	B4. Lost Forever
	B5. Eternal Idol

  Eric Singer plays drums.

_______________________________________________________________________________


323: BADLANDS: "BADLANDS"
     --------------------

                                                Released:  1991

  Eric Singer plays drums.




_______________________________________________________________________________

                  SECTION TWELVE: OTHER KISS-RELEATED RECORDS
_______________________________________________________________________________


324: LYN CHRISTOPHER: "LYN CHRISTOPHER"
     ----------------------------------

  Paramount 6051                                    Released:  1972


  Produced by Ron Johnsen.
  Recorded at Electric Lady Studios, NYC. 1972


  Features Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley back-up vocals.

_______________________________________________________________________________


325: WENDY O. WILLIAMS:  "W.O.W."
     ----------------------------

  Passport Records PB 6034                          Released:  1984

	A1. I Love Sex (And Rock And Roll)          (3.47) - GS/WB/RW/AT/RS
	A2. It's My Life                            (3.58) - GS/PS
	A3. Priestess                               (3.23) - WB/RW/CR/XS
	A4. Thief In The Night                      (3.47) - GS/MW
	A5. Opus in Cm7                             (4.20) - RW/CR
	B1. Ready To Rock                           (5.11) - RW/CR/RS
	B2. Bump And Grind                          (4.27) - WB/RW/CR/XT/RS
	B3. Legends Never Die                       (4.25) - GS/MF2/AM
	B4. Ain't None Of Your Business             (3.27) - GS/EC/VV

  Produced by Gene Simmons.

  Paul Stanley plays guitar on "Ready To Rock."  Eric Carr plays drums on 
  "Legends Never Die" (the drum tracks were from an unfinished demo left 
  over from _Creatures of the Night_). Ace Frehley plays lead guitar on 
  "Bump And Grind" (his first appearance on vinyl after leaving KISS).  
  Several songs were written by KISS members or KISS alumni.  "Thief In 
  The Night" was later recorded by KISS and released on CRAZY NIGHTS (041).

_______________________________________________________________________________


326: SEAN DELANEY: "HIGHWAY"
     -----------------------

  (label unknown)                               Released: (unknown)

  Former KISS roadie. Album dedicated to KISS.

_______________________________________________________________________________


327: ANTHRAX: "BLACK LODGE" CD Single
     --------------------------------

  Elektra 66277					Released: August, 1993
		
	Love Her All I Can

  Anthrax cover of the 1975 KISS classic with Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley
  singing back-up vocals.

_______________________________________________________________________________


   Artists: 
   --------

AF  - Ace Frehley
AF2 - Anton Fig
AM  - Adam Mitchell
AT  - A Tolliver
BA  - Bryan Adams
BE  - Bob Ezrin
BH  - Bob Halligan
BH2 - Brie Howard
BK  - Bruce Kulick
BM  - Barry Mann
BT  - B. Turgon
BW  - Bill Wray
CC  - Carter Cathcart
CM  - Charlie Midnight
CM2 - Cash Monet
CR  - C Romanelli
CT  - Chip Taylor
CW  - Cynthia Weil
DC  - Dave Clark (Dave Clark Five 1965)
DC2 - Desmond Child
DF  - Davey Faragher
DS  - Davitt Sigerson
DS2 - Dana Strum
DW  - Dianne Warren
EC  - Eric Carr
EG  - Ellie Greenwich
FSK - Francis Scott Key
GM  - Gerard McMahon
GM2 - Gene Moore
GS  - Gene Simmons
IS  - Ira Schickman
HK  - Holly Knight
HM  - Howard Marks
HR  - Howard Rice
JB  - Jeff Barry
JB2 - Jean Beauvoir
JM  - J McClarty
JF  - Jeanette Frehley
JK  - Jimmy Keneally
JL  - Jeff Lynne
JR  - Jim Roberge
JS  - Jeff Schoen
JV  - J. Vastano
JV2 - Jim Vallance
KF  - Kim Fowley
KM  - Kirk Miller
KR  - Keith Richards (Rolling Stones 1967)
KR2 - K Russell
LH  - Leigh Harline
LK  - Larry Kelly
LR  - Lou Reed
M&L - Mann & Lowe (Bobby Rydell, Cameo-Parkway 1959)
MA  - M. Anthony
MB  - Michael Bolton
MF  - Mark Ferrari
MF2 - Micki Free
MJ  - Mikel Japp
MJ2 - Mick Jagger (Rolling Stones 1967)
MK  - Marty Kupersmith
MM  - M. Morgan
MM2 - Mark Montague
MR  - M. Rene (Bobby Lewis 1961)
MS  - Mike Stone
MW  - Mitch Weissman
NW  - Ned Washington
PB  - Phil Brown
PC  - Peter Criss
PC2 - Pepe Castro
PD  - Peter Diggins
PS  - Paul Stanley
PS2 - Phil Spector
RA  - R. Adams (Bobby Lewis 1961)
RB  - Russ Ballard (Hello, Argent)
RF  - Robert Fleischman
RF2 - R. Friedman
RK  - Robert "Bob" Kulick
RS  - R Stotts
RW  - Rod Swenson
SC  - Stephen Coronel
SD  - Sean Delaney
SK  - Sue Kelly
SP  - Stan Penridge
SP2 - Spencer Proffer
SS  - Steve Stevens
ST  - Streetheart
TF  - Tommy Faragher
TH  - The Hollies
TP  - Tony Powers
TT  - Tommy Thayer
VP  - Vini Poncia
VC  - Vincent Cusano  
VV  - Vinnie Vincent
WB  - Wes Beech
XB  - ?. Bardowell
XD  - ?. Damon
XR  - ?. Roberts
XT  - ?. Tolliver
XV  - ?. Van Zen
19.308simple answer!POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartMon Aug 14 1995 14:5035
    Hey Shawn,
    
    Feel free to grab .307 and then delete.  Didn't realize it was such a 
    ++HUGE++ file.  Below is the 'simple' album list!
    
    /jen
    
    
   1.Kiss - 1974
   2.Hotter than Hell - 1974
   3.Dressed to Kill - 1975
   4.Alive! - 1975
   5.Destroyer - 1976
   6.Rock and Roll Over - 1976
   7.Love Gun - 1977
   8.Alive II - 1977
   9.Double Platinum - 1978
  10.Ace Frehley - 1978
  11.Gene Simmons - 1978
  12.Peter Criss - 1978
  13.Paul Stanley - 1978
  14.Dynasty - 1979
  15.Unmasked - 1980
  16.Music from the Elder - 1981
  17.Killers - 1982
  18.Creatures of the Night - 1982
  19.Lick It Up - 1983
  20.Animalize - 1984
  21.Asylum - 1985
  22.Crazy Nights - 1987
  23.Smashes, Thrashes, and Hits - 1988
  24.Hot In the Shade - 1989
  25.Revenge - 1992
  26.Alive III - 1993 

19.309BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Mon Aug 14 1995 15:153
    
    	Thanks, Jen ... now I can see where I stand.
    
19.310BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Tue Aug 15 1995 11:2728
   1.Kiss - 1974			x
   2.Hotter than Hell - 1974		x
   3.Dressed to Kill - 1975		x
   4.Alive! - 1975			
   5.Destroyer - 1976			x
   6.Rock and Roll Over - 1976		x
   7.Love Gun - 1977			x
   8.Alive II - 1977			
   9.Double Platinum - 1978		x
  10.Ace Frehley - 1978			x
  11.Gene Simmons - 1978		x
  12.Peter Criss - 1978			x
  13.Paul Stanley - 1978		x
  14.Dynasty - 1979			
  15.Unmasked - 1980			x
  16.Music from the Elder - 1981	
  17.Killers - 1982			
  18.Creatures of the Night - 1982	x
  19.Lick It Up - 1983			x
  20.Animalize - 1984			
  21.Asylum - 1985			
  22.Crazy Nights - 1987		x
  23.Smashes, Thrashes, and Hits - 1988	
  24.Hot In the Shade - 1989		x
  25.Revenge - 1992			x
  26.Alive III - 1993 			

19.311Just picked up "The Elder" and "Animalize"BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Fri Sep 15 1995 15:1728
   1.Kiss - 1974			x
   2.Hotter than Hell - 1974		x
   3.Dressed to Kill - 1975		x
   4.Alive! - 1975			
   5.Destroyer - 1976			x
   6.Rock and Roll Over - 1976		x
   7.Love Gun - 1977			x
   8.Alive II - 1977			
   9.Double Platinum - 1978		x
  10.Ace Frehley - 1978			x
  11.Gene Simmons - 1978		x
  12.Peter Criss - 1978			x
  13.Paul Stanley - 1978		x
  14.Dynasty - 1979			
  15.Unmasked - 1980			x
  16.Music from the Elder - 1981	x
  17.Killers - 1982			
  18.Creatures of the Night - 1982	x
  19.Lick It Up - 1983			x
  20.Animalize - 1984			x
  21.Asylum - 1985			
  22.Crazy Nights - 1987		x
  23.Smashes, Thrashes, and Hits - 1988	
  24.Hot In the Shade - 1989		x
  25.Revenge - 1992			x
  26.Alive III - 1993 			

19.312Ace, Peter, Gene, and Paul juamming alas!!!!STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Wed Oct 11 1995 21:3519
    
    For all you KISS fans:
    
        The four original members of KISS reunited for the first time
    in like 15 years for a taping of an upcoming "Unplugged" gig.  I'm
    not exact on when it will air, but apparently Ace was thrilled with
    this deal as well as the first-rate treatment he and Peter Criss 
    have been getting from Gene & Paul.  I think those two have finally
    realized that they ain't doing jack-sh#t and it's about friggin time
    this thing happened.
    
        For the songs: again, not sure.  However, I heard Ace (and the
    rest of the line-up) originally wanted to do "Shock Me" (cool!), but
    Ace wasn't groovin' the "strict unplugged rules and regulations
    concerning electronics and effects," so who knows.
    
    Still, a very cool deal for KISS fans.
    Kev --
    
19.313Way Kool !STRATA::LAMOTHECrusin' in the '57 chevyWed Oct 11 1995 23:098
    
      WOW !!!
    
      I LOve the Ole Kiss !!!  I can not wait to begin taping the MTV
    Unplugged event .....YES !
    
    /Sax
    
19.314STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Wed Oct 11 1995 23:279
    
    RE: -1
    
    Yeah, me too.  I was thinking:  how long until the boys cash-in
    BIGTIME on a full-blown reunion tour?  Maybe some of that makeup
    will smooth out Crater-Ace, ooops, that's Space-Ace's complexion.
    
    Kev --
    
19.315reUnion ...Beth I hear ya screamin'STRATA::LAMOTHECrusin' in the '57 chevyThu Oct 12 1995 00:405
    
     Hum...I didn't mind crater_Ace....Always Loved Chris, enjoyed
    Gene's toungue...and Peter was kool !
    
    
19.316Rockin'STRATA::LAMOTHECrusin' in the '57 chevyThu Oct 12 1995 00:4619
    
      Why did I mention Chris for ?  There was a chris at one time
    wasn't there ?  Ug !
    
     What would be kool is an unplugged version of Beth, but change a 
    few words and have it go like this :
    
    
    
       Nicole I hear you calling
    As OJ slashed your throat
    I wish I was there to help you
    but I was still passed out ka- ka- Cold
    
      Hum...actually that's kinda Sick....that's something that Wierd
    Al Yankavich ?(Sp?) would do.
    
    /Detroit Rock City
    
19.317CADSYS::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meThu Oct 12 1995 01:076
Kizz unplugged doesn't sound so interesting to me but I really liked em back
when the original 4 were together.

A reunion tour would probably do well


19.318STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Oct 12 1995 02:165
    RE: -2
    
    Wow!!  Now we're talkin'!!!
    
    
19.319BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't get even ... get odd!!Thu Oct 12 1995 10:054
    
    	I'm with Tim ... I want REAL KISS music, not that "watered down"
    	unplugged crap.
    
19.320POWDML::BUCKLEYas if?!Thu Oct 12 1995 10:312
    A reuinion tour with makeup, costumes and a large stage with flames,
    etc. would make them a lot of money!!
19.321I WANT U!BRAT::JENNISONMoonlight &amp; ValentinoThu Oct 12 1995 10:325
    I would LOVE a reunion!!!!!
    
    Im pysched about the Unplugged.... cant wait !!!! 
    
    SueJ
19.322HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meThu Oct 12 1995 11:062
Although Buck might disagree, hearing Ace playing acoustic without any
distortion, efx etc to cover up his playing might be painful...
19.323Blasphemy!!!POWDML::BUCKLEYas if?!Thu Oct 12 1995 12:211
    
19.324BUSY::SLABOUNTYMy other account is on an ALPHA AXPMon Oct 30 1995 15:523
    
    	KISS will be on AOL tonight at 8PM.
    
19.325 I stole your lovePOWDML::BUCKLEYA Change of SeasonsMon Oct 30 1995 16:463
    >	KISS will be on AOL tonight at 8PM.
    
    Damn -- watch, I'll have to work tonight....
19.326BRAT::JENNISONMoonlight &amp; ValentinoTue Oct 31 1995 10:016
    
    Kizz Unplugged is tonight at 9pm!
    
    Tape it MuffiN!
    
    SueJ
19.327HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meMon Nov 06 1995 10:5816
So who watched the Unplugged special last night?

I saw the second half.  It was painful to watch them do 2 awful ballads.  I was
just about to turn it off when out walks Ace and Peter.  So they do Beth pretty
well - although I don't like that song.  Then they get the other guitarist and
drummer and do (Geez - I forgot the song again- it was on Alive I, someone help
me out here) and of course, Rock and Roll All Nite.  I thought they did those
pretty well.

In fact (Buck take note) I thought Ace was in pretty good form and was much more
interesting to listen to than the new guitarist.

I did think that Ace had a passing resemblance to prc.  Am I the only one to
notice this.  Not for the DAFS, just the eyes and hair.  

Tim
19.328BUSY::SLABOUNTYForm feed = &lt;ctrl&gt;v &lt;ctrl&gt;lMon Nov 06 1995 11:005
    
    	So the original line-up was there?
    
    	Maybe I should have taped it after all.
    
19.329HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meMon Nov 06 1995 11:351
Only for the last 15 minutes.  
19.330POWDML::BUCKLEYbullet with butterfly wingsMon Nov 06 1995 12:1510
    Tim,
    
    Got To Choose is the song you're looking for from Alive (I).
    
    I was sort of irked that Peter and Ace played ALONG WITH Eric and
    Bruce (the new dudes) -- I was hoping for a REPLACEMENT.  Such was
    not the case.
    
    All in all, KIZZ sounded very good.  They did a killer version of 
    Goin' Blind!!  If this show pops up on a re-run, check it out!
19.331Bruce Kulick???DREGS::BLICKSTEINGeneral MIDIMon Nov 06 1995 12:2013
    Is the "new guitarist" Bruce Kulick?
    
    He played with one of my all-time favorite Jersey bar bands, The Good
    Rats.
    
    And... he sucked.   He just struck me as incredibly "generic".  Rarely
    venturing out from pentatonic box playing.   Definitely the WRONG guy
    for the Good Rats.
    
    And now this guy has instructional videos out????   "How to sound like
    everyone else" ????
    
    	db
19.332HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is the life for meMon Nov 06 1995 12:331
Nope it was Nothing to Lose  You just bumped my brain cell and I remembered
19.333HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is the life for meMon Nov 06 1995 12:346
Yes, Bruce Kulick was the replacement guy.  He looked like he fell out of
Wayne's World.

No Stairway to Heaven

Tim
19.334Send_To_The_InterNetWMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Yanni.Tue Nov 07 1995 18:247
    I Just Thought of Some_Thang...
    If All The Original_Members of The Band Got Back Together fer A Major
    Tour and Wore The Old Make_Up...It Could be Called..
     The"Kiss and MakeUp"Tour.
    
    
        Crazy_Not_p.t'ed_Al       Steal_It,if it's new..
19.335BUSY::SLABOUNTYHypnotize me ... mesmerize me.Tue Dec 26 1995 12:277
    
    	I got "Asylum" from my sister ... 2 more to go and I'll be done.
    	And BTW, this is a very good album.
    
    	Is "Killers" hard to find?  None of the Westboro/Shrewsbury
    	music stores have it.
    
19.336MKOTS3::GRENIERWed Dec 27 1995 00:363
    Killers is only available as an import.  The japanese version has
    more songs than the german version.  Killers had some previously 
    unreleased material, available on either version, BTW.
19.337BUSY::SLABOUNTYOf course you can touch this.Wed Dec 27 1995 12:488
    
    	Is it worth the extra $10 to get 2 extra songs?  $30 vs. $20.
    
    	Probably, eh?
    
    	And is this a "Greatest Hits" CD?  Sounds like it would be,
    	but CDNow doesn't list song titles.
    
19.338MKOTS3::GRENIERWed Dec 27 1995 13:193
    I'd get the german version.  The two extra songs are available on 
    'Music from the Elder', so if you have that you won't be missing
    anything.  I wanted Killers for the 3-4 unreleased songs.
19.339BUSY::SLABOUNTYOf course you can touch this.Wed Dec 27 1995 13:313
    
    	Sounds good ... thanks!!
    
19.340MKOTS3::GRENIERWed Dec 27 1995 13:341
    btw, 19.189 contains the song listing for 'Killers'.
19.341BUSY::SLABOUNTYOf course you can touch this.Wed Dec 27 1995 13:375
    
    	You're a regular plethora of information there, Steve.
    
    	8^)
    
19.342MKOTS3::GRENIERWed Dec 27 1995 16:131
    That's 'cause I knew I'd seen this in here before!
19.343BUSY::SLABOUNTYWhy don't you bend for gold?Wed Dec 27 1995 16:157
    
    	OK, then you're a regular plethora of aging memories.
    
    	8^)
    
    	"Killers" is on order from CDNow ... should be here in 2-4 weeks.
    
19.344WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_A_GunWed Dec 27 1995 17:0514
    I Watched A_Special on The A&E Channel Lasted_Nite Which Spot_Lighted
    The Achievments of Stan Lee(MARVEL Comics)..
    They Interviewed Simmons..He's A_Fan and MARVEL has Produced 2_Comic_
    
    Magazines Starin KiZZ.The Thang that Stuck_Out in my Mind that He Said
    was"Hey MA!Remember All those Comix_Books That you Threw_Out when I was
    A_Kid??  Well...Heres Some with me in Em".
    
    Also Brings to Mind that Time when He and Stanley were on The
    Oprha_Show..Of_Course she had to ask About the Lenght_Of_His_Tongue.
    His Answer was Kindda Like..If I was to Reach my tounge out to you
    we would become much Better_friends."
    
      Crazy_Gotta_Luv_Em_Al
19.345BUSY::SLABOUNTYSprunt: feminine hygiene sprayThu Dec 28 1995 12:1535
    
    	My sister bought "Kiss My Ass" for me, and I've listened to 4
    	of the songs so far:
    
    
    	"Deuce" - Lenny Kravitz
    
    		Good cover.  Not completely faithful to the original,
    		in that it lacks some of the "crunch"
    
    	"Hard Luck Woman" - Garth Brooks
    
    		Excellent ... simple as that.  You'd think you were
    		listening to the original.  [Believe it or not.]
    
    	"She" - Anthrax
    
    		Excellent ... simple as that.  You'd think you were
    		listening to the original.
    
    	"Christine Sixteen" - Gin Blossoms
    
    		Sounds like The Gin Blossoms, but a very good cover.
    
    
    	and I started listening to
    
    
    	"Black Diamond" - Yoshiki
    
    		Look out, Yanni ... whoever this Yoshiki is, [s]he's
    		amazing.  Got about 2-3 minutes into the song and had
    		to get out of the car, so I didn't hear the whole thing,
    		but it appears to be completely instrumental [new-age].
    
19.346BUSY::SLABOUNTYLolly^3 get your adverbs here.Tue Jan 09 1996 13:135
    
    	"Killers" came in Friday or Saturday ... 1 week total!!
    
    	I haven't listened to it yet ... it's in the car now.
    
19.347New rumor... sort ofPOLAR::LYLEi like bacon bits on JelloFri Jan 19 1996 13:5314
    
    Rumors are abound with the original members getting back together and
    doing a two month North American tour that is suppose to be the same as
    the KISS Alive II tour from '77-'78 (or there abouts).
    All the original members are said to be interested and they are even
    gonna be in costumes and make-up!! 
     
    Has anyone else hear about this?? There is a press conference scheduled
    for sometime next week.
    
    Man, I hope it's true and not rumor. I'd love to see 'em the way the
    used to be..... like goin' in a time warp....
    
    Dave
19.348this would RULEPOWDML::BUCKLEYIntl. Year of the Coaster -- 1996Fri Jan 19 1996 15:2213
    >>Rumors are abound with the original members getting back together and
    >>doing a two month North American tour that is suppose to be the same as
    >>the KISS Alive II tour from '77-'78 (or there abouts).
    >>All the original members are said to be interested and they are even
    >>gonna be in costumes and make-up!! 
    
    
    I WOULD ABSOLUTELY FRIGGIN **DIE** IF THIS WERE TRUE!!!
    
    
    >>There is a press conference scheduled for sometime next week.
    
    *PLEASE* keep us informed....
19.349BRAT::JENNISONA Wild Eyed Child Of The SunFri Jan 19 1996 15:364
    
    
    
    THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!
19.350just wouldn't be the same otherwise!POOKY::OROURKElike the desert misses the rainFri Jan 19 1996 15:424
    
    Will they still breath fire?  
    
    /jen
19.351HOZHED::FENNELLPorcelina of the oceans blueFri Jan 19 1996 16:2120
Umm, having seen Plant and Page this spring which was an absolute highlight of
my concert seeing life - I will add:


You can never go back...

I might add that I did enjoy some of the Unplugged show they did


Tim

If I ever get access to a scanner (and figure out what to do with it) I've got
some killer photos I took during the Love Gun tour...  That'd be as good a
reason as any to create a web page

They were shot from the first row off the floor with a 200mm lens using
Ektachrome 400 slide film pushed to 800 ASA.

I've also got some pics of Rush taken with the same camera from 3rd row center.

19.352FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienFri Jan 19 1996 17:056
    
    I'd go and see them in tour if they did the make up etc!Just for
    interest sake.
    
    
    						Ian
19.353POOKY::OROURKElike the desert misses the rainFri Jan 19 1996 17:126
    
    re: -1
    
    admit it Ian..you wanna paint yourself Blue like William Wallace! 
    
    /jen
19.354FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienFri Jan 19 1996 17:147
    
    yup..and wade through gallons of dead English mens blood! hargh,hargh!
    
    
    (not Flip's blood though,she's cool) 8)
    
    ian
19.355POWDML::BUCKLEYIntl. Year of the Coaster -- 1996Fri Jan 19 1996 17:262
    Flip roolz ... I wanna go drinkin with her on my english pub tour
    circuit in 1996!
19.356FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienFri Jan 19 1996 17:348
    
    
    you won't survive! 8)
    
    
    
    
    					Ian
19.357CHEFS::PERKINSPDon't stop believingMon Jan 22 1996 08:146
    
    Buck!  When are you coming over?  I have my own place now and you're
    more than welcome to stay....furthermore, I know all the local pubs whe
    do the after hours drinking....
    
    Flip
19.358BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Jan 22 1996 10:2831
    
    	Well, I have "Smashes, Thrashes and Hits", and I have completed
    	my KISS collection ... at least as far as I know:
    
   1.Kiss - 1974			x
   2.Hotter than Hell - 1974		x
   3.Dressed to Kill - 1975		x
   4.Alive! - 1975			x
   5.Destroyer - 1976			x
   6.Rock and Roll Over - 1976		x
   7.Love Gun - 1977			x
   8.Alive II - 1977			x
   9.Double Platinum - 1978		x
  10.Ace Frehley - 1978			x
  11.Gene Simmons - 1978		x
  12.Peter Criss - 1978			x
  13.Paul Stanley - 1978		x
  14.Dynasty - 1979			x
  15.Unmasked - 1980			x
  16.Music from the Elder - 1981	x
  17.Killers - 1982			x
  18.Creatures of the Night - 1982	x
  19.Lick It Up - 1983			x
  20.Animalize - 1984			x
  21.Asylum - 1985			x
  22.Crazy Nights - 1987		x
  23.Smashes, Thrashes, and Hits - 1988	x
  24.Hot In the Shade - 1989		x
  25.Revenge - 1992			x
  26.Alive III - 1993 			x
    
19.359FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienWed Jan 24 1996 09:3910
    
    I heard the original "Detroit Rock City" and thought it to be rather
    good.
    
    
    
    I think I'd like to see them play in their make-up.Just for the
    interest value.
    
    							Ian
19.360Physed(tm)!!!POWDML::BUCKLEYIntl. Year of the Coaster -- 1996Fri Feb 02 1996 10:2011
    ATTENTION!!!

    It has been confirmed by a few members of the band and on some east
    coast radio stations that KISS will be reuniting for a tour this
    summer.  That will be Paul, Gene, Peter, and Ace -- in makeup and full
    costumes touring with the 1977 Alive II stage.  
    
    A press conference is scheduled within the next month after they get
    things pegged down.
    

19.361HHHHHHHHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmWMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_A_GunFri Feb 02 1996 10:265
    Man,I Saw that 1977 tour at Providence,RI and I'll never Forget it!!
    
    
      Crazy_Never_Forgot_How_The_Front_Left_Tire_On_My_Car_Was_Missing_
       After_The_Show_Also_Al
19.362HOZHED::FENNELLPorcelina of the oceans blueFri Feb 02 1996 10:277
Wasn't the Alive II stage 5x5 Marshall 4-cabs on each side (or something like
that?)

When I had the album I remember the stage filled the inner record liner with
amps and flames.

Tim
19.363BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsFri Feb 02 1996 10:375
    People are wondering why Im screaming... 
    
    EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    yes yes yes !
19.364POWDML::BUCKLEYIntl. Year of the Coaster -- 1996Fri Feb 02 1996 10:528
    The Alive II stage, in a nutshell, was the 5x5 Marshall cabs on either
    side of the stage, with two large stairways going up either side.
    In the middle was Peter Criss' drum riser, which rose 40' off the
    stage during his drum solo.
    
    This stage also had the elevation platforms for Gene, Paul and Ace.
    
    And yes, there was much fire and smoke to be seen!!!
19.365FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienFri Feb 02 1996 10:589
    cool...!
    
    
    I'll go for the interest value.
    
    hey Al,how the hell did you loose a wheel?
    
    
    					Ian
19.366guess not!STKAI1::SPORSENHagar VikingsFri Feb 02 1996 11:014
    Has anyone heard if it's going to be a US only tour or are they going
    to Europe to?
    
    /hagar who's been listening to them for a couple of days at home now.
19.367POWDML::BUCKLEYIntl. Year of the Coaster -- 1996Fri Feb 02 1996 11:066
    Also seen during the 1997 show:
    
    - Gene Simmons breathing fire
    - Gene Simmons spitting blood
    - Ace Frehley and his "smoking" guitar
    
19.36825 per side? Alex Lifeson used 4 and that was loudHOZHED::FENNELLPorcelina of the oceans blueFri Feb 02 1996 11:1410
Buck,

Where all of those Marshall's actually used?  If so wouldn't the sound level
be off the scale?  I figured some where used and some where just props.

When I saw them on the Destroyer tour the "only" had 10 amps per
side.  That had to be the loudest (and most distorted) show I ever saw.  I'm
sure some of the hearing damage I have now is from that very show.

Tim
19.369DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Fri Feb 02 1996 11:157
    
    
    	You psychic Buck?  =)
    
    
    	I do believe I see an HM raid on this show........
    
19.370what a concert!POWDML::BUCKLEYIntl. Year of the Coaster -- 1996Fri Feb 02 1996 11:204
    Just remembered -- the 1977 show was also the show where they dumped a
    TON of ballons and confettii on the crowd during Rock N Roll All Night
    (and party every day).
    
19.371POWDML::BUCKLEYIntl. Year of the Coaster -- 1996Fri Feb 02 1996 11:214
    Tim -- no, they were mostly for show (as were the 35 stacks which
    adorned Judas Priests 1982 stage setup).
    
    If I remember correctly, only 4 cabs were used per guitarist.
19.372BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsFri Feb 02 1996 11:294
    
    
    This will be the COMEBACK of the year and the Reunion of 
    The Heavy Metal Crew !!!!
19.373FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienFri Feb 02 1996 11:316
    
    Loudest show I ever attended was Motorhead in Edinburgh.....I was deaf
    for about 2 days.Excellant show,though! 8)
    
    
    ian
19.374All I have is a puny hand-held slide viewerHOZHED::FENNELLPorcelina of the oceans blueFri Feb 02 1996 11:3414
I have pictures (actually a box of 36 slides) of confetti falling on Ace & Paul
I took on the Love Gun.  Some of those pictures came out pretty well.  Another
great show of Peter Criss on the drums up in the air with the KISS logo blazing
overhead.  Even one with a pinwheel flinging sparks right next to Peter.

Anyone got a slide projector?  (I know - yesterday's technology)  I should have
some of the best ones made into prints and scan them.

I've been playing with the scanner upstairs in our building.  I might be able to
get some of these onto my Web page someday - although I bet they'll have to be
black and white - color seems to be too speckled.


Tim
19.375CrooksWMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_A_GunFri Feb 02 1996 13:097
    That would be Geat,Tim.
    
    RE:Ian...
     Some_One Stoled my Tire..Rim_And_All.And I Didn't have A_Spare.
    
    
      Crazy_Long_Night_Indeed_Al
19.376FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienFri Feb 02 1996 13:132
    
    how the hell did you get home?
19.377drop a dime, buddy! :^)AKOMI2::OROURKElike the desert misses the rainFri Feb 02 1996 13:179
    
    **how the hell did you get home?
    
    Well, he didn't call me...and I was living only 15 minutes away!  Of 
    course I probably would have gotten lost on the way  :^)
    
    /jen
    
    Of course I didn't have my driver's license yet either!
19.378Good_Ol_Daze???WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_A_GunFri Feb 02 1996 13:5513
    Well,I told my friend to saty in the car and get some sleep.I Bitched
    to the Parkin_Lot Attendent("We di't see Nothin.We're Closed,kid")
    Walked over to the Police_Dept.("Went to the Concert Tonight,eh?Beat
    it,Punk")Then As I was Standin on The_Corner and Guy Drivin by askes
    if I have any Weed.He turned out to be my Savior That_Nite.He took
    me to Two Gas_Stations to look fer A_Tire.No Luck.This was 66 Dodge
    Dart that needed A 14_Inch Rim.He Ended_Up takin us All the way home
    to Worm_Town where I Had A Spare in My Celler(Yeah..I Know..Good Place
    for it)Then he took just me All the way back to R where I put it on.
    
    Twas..One of those Nites when yer 18 and Any_Thang can Happen. :_)
    
      Crazy_Wish_I_Kew_You_Then_/jen_Al    :_)
19.379BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Feb 02 1996 14:066
    
    	Al, you were 18 in 1977????
    
    	I never would have thought you were almost 40.  I figured you to
    	be about my age ... 30/31.
    
19.380JUGHED::FLATTERYFri Feb 02 1996 16:252
    ..this just in....orson welles will be providing all of gene simmons
    costumes...........cows everywhere are nervous......................./k
19.381HOZHED::FENNELLPorcelina of the oceans blueFri Feb 02 1996 17:121
What about hair extensions?
19.382FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienFri Feb 02 1996 17:229
    ..thats provided by the "Hair Club for sad old fart rockers" not only
    is Gene a member
    
    
    
    
    he'sthe owner! 8)
    
    						Ian
19.383EDWIN::HOOKERFri Feb 02 1996 18:1615
    Re: .368
    
    Even if they did use all 25 amps per side it wouldn't be as loud
    as you expect.  Compared to your loudest concert you said where
    they had 10 amps per side it would only by about 4 decibels louder.
    2 times as much power means 3dB in sound level.   The ear senses
    sound logaritmically...not linearly ;)
    
    [spin] [spin]                         
    
    of course legally your only supposed to be exposed to 115 dB of sound
    for less than 15 minutes a day and most concerts are at least that
    loud for 3+ hours...  
    
    Shane, huh ? what'd ya say ?? speak up
19.384BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Fri Feb 02 1996 18:217
    
    	Ummm, Shane, you say that the concert would be twice as loud as
    	the loudest concert he's gone to so far, but then you say it's
    	not as loud as he'd expect?
    
    	Sounds like it'd be quite loud to me.
    
19.385STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Fri Feb 02 1996 20:415
    
    Thanks for the info Buck.  Good deal.
    
    Kev --
    
19.386Ask John Entwistle about loud - Friday's GlobeCADSYS::FENNELLPorcelina of the oceans blueSat Feb 03 1996 17:3125
Shawn,

What shane was trying to say is that a "just noticable" volume increase would be
3dbs.  That requires twice the power.  Most humans can't discern volume 
differences of less than 3 dbs.

10dbs is "twice as loud" but requires 10x the power.

here is what I remember for db levels

whisper - 40-50
normal voice 60-70
lawnmower   80-90
jackhammer ~110
airport runway ~130

As you can see a 10db difference is quite a bit louder.


Human eyes, ears are both logrithmic.

and 115 db is plenty loud...

Tim

19.387Some_Kids_Never_Grow_UpWMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_A_GunSun Feb 04 1996 12:597
    Soin the 70's...A Who or Blue Cheer would Register Around ~160!!  :_)
    
    Yes,Shawn..I'll be 37 Thised year.Don't say I'm All_Most 40 tho.
    (ShUdDer****) :_)
    
    
     Crazy_As_Wayne_Campbell_Says_"But_I_Still_Know_How_To_Party"_Al
19.388HOZHED::FENNELLPorcelina of the oceans blueSun Feb 04 1996 14:301
Oh man, I'm older than Al!!!
19.389KDX200::COOPERHeh heh - Not likely palSun Feb 04 1996 16:545
    You're both older than me...
    
    :-*
    
    jc (Who feels old)
19.390SCASS1::BARBER_Ai was up above itSun Feb 04 1996 19:421
    Yeah but, you're all young at heart!!
19.391POWDML::BUCKLEYMantis -- Rules the Shrubs!Mon Feb 05 1996 09:5816
    Re: .383
    
    >Even if they did use all 25 amps per side it wouldn't be as loud
    >as you expect.  Compared to your loudest concert you said where
    >they had 10 amps per side it would only by about 4 decibels louder.
    >2 times as much power means 3dB in sound level.   The ear senses
    >sound logaritmically...not linearly ;)
    
    I have to disagree.
    
    Remember, the amps are 5 cabs high.  Example:  If you used two cabinets
    side-by-side, you have both supplying the same output.  However, if
    you stack the cabinets, you get a 6db increase in sound pressure.
    (x + y = z).  The more cabinets you stack on top of each other, the
    more they severe to multiply the sound waves being produced by the
    cabinets.
19.392EDWIN::HOOKERMon Feb 05 1996 17:0521
    Re: .391
       > Remember, the amps are 5 cabs high.  Example:  If you used two
       > cabinets
       > side-by-side, you have both supplying the same output.  However, if
       > you stack the cabinets, you get a 6db increase in sound pressure.
       > (x + y = z).  The more cabinets you stack on top of each other, the
       > more they severe to multiply the sound waves being produced by the
       > cabinets.
    
    You have a point, but it doesn't *quite* add up to 6db like you say.
    The issue isn't necessarily how they are stacked but how the waves
    constructively add to produce more sound pressure.  For instance having
    a speaker in the center of a room will produce a certain amount of
    sound pressure.  But placing that speaker in the corner of a room
    facing out will produce more sound pressure because the walls "focus"
    the waves toward the front.  This is called 'directivity'.  I don't
    claim to be an expert or know-it-all by any means...in fact I may 
    just be full-of-it ;)  Just thought I'd throw in some techy comments
    on how much 'louder' it would sound is all...laters...
    
    Shane, who thinks that a dead groundhog can't see his shadow
19.393BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Feb 05 1996 17:317
    
    >Shane, who thinks that a dead groundhog can't see his shadow
    
    
    	Are you saying it can't see YOUR shadow or it can't see its own
    	shadow?
    
19.394EDWIN::HOOKERTue Feb 06 1996 11:596
    Re: -1
    
    Well it can't see either I suppose...
    
    Shane, who is sick of winter and groundhogs that predict 6 more weeks
    of it
19.395Anyone else hear 'bout this??POLAR::LYLEfuzzy-wuzzy wasn't fuzzy.. was he.Mon Mar 11 1996 01:2213
    
    Rumour of the week:
    
    It appears that KISS management is looking for a well known band to
    open for them on the North American tour.
    
    They have asked Motley Crue to open. The origianl line up, with Vince.
    
    Further bulletins as events warrent.
    
    Dave
    
    
19.396Gigs are UsSTRATA::LAMOTHEJust me,My Fat Boy, &amp; Kelly BundyMon Mar 11 1996 11:026
    
     heard the new PRC band is the selected group to open for
    them....forget the name of his band now, but they've SOLD over
    thousands of discs....
    
    /sax
19.397DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Mon Mar 11 1996 11:1913
    
    	Re: Dave
    
    	That would be really cool!
    
    	Vince (by himself) will be playing in Manchester NH at 
    	The Cage on St. Patty's Day.  A really good local band is
    	opening for them (and no it's not the SlushPuppies).  
    	Depending on what time my folks leave that day and how tired
    	I am after packing, I may try to get in.......
    
    	JJ
    
19.398POLAR::RENAUDPEducation is cheaper than IgnoranceWed Mar 13 1996 09:294
    Davey, don't get Booby T going!
    
    Paully
    
19.399POLAR::LYLEfuzzy-wuzzy wasn't fuzzy.... was he???Thu Mar 14 1996 00:365
    
    Hey, that's what the chick that hosts Power 30 on MuchMusic said, I'm
    only repeating it....
    
    
19.400FABSIX::K_KAMARTue Mar 26 1996 09:4421
19.401BUSY::SLABOUNTYStealth :== gray car in fogTue Mar 26 1996 10:525
    
    	Not sure if you've read all the newer entries in here or not,
    	but KISS is planning a makeup tour this summer.  So you'll get
    	to see the original members in all their glory.
    
19.402FABSIX::K_KAMARTue Mar 26 1996 12:238
    You know, I kinda prefer them WITHOUT the make-up.
    
    I think that Gene is a rather handsome man and I don't like seeing him
    hide behind all that make-up.....
    
    BUT, I will definitely go to see them whether they wear it or not. ;-)
    
    I am psyched !!!  8-)
19.403PATE::SCHIAVONEAre you ready....Tue Mar 26 1996 12:346
  >>I think that Gene is a rather handsome man and I don't like seeing him
  >>  hide behind all that make-up....

	??????????????????????????????????????...Helloooooooooo

	/CQ
19.404FABSIX::K_KAMARTue Mar 26 1996 12:416
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...as the ole' cliche' goes...
    
    O.K.... I'll admit he is not a gorgeous-hunk-of-man, but I find
    him attractive anyway.
    
    Enough said. ;-)
19.405SCASS1::BARBER_ABREATHE IN, BREATHE OUTTue Mar 26 1996 13:271
    barf-a-roo
19.406But he doesn't do a thing for me either......POLAR::RENAUDPHAKUNA MA-TATA!!Tue Mar 26 1996 13:553
    Be nice 'prilmonster!
    
    Paully 8)
19.407DECWIN::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Tue Mar 26 1996 15:384
    
    
    	Have you seen him lately?  He's HUGE!
    
19.408FABSIX::K_KAMARTue Mar 26 1996 16:271
    Oh well....C'est la vie....
19.409Hotter than HellSTRATA::LAMOTHEJust me,My Fat Boy, &amp; Kelly BundyWed Mar 27 1996 12:366
    
     Gene has one of the nastiest Toungues I've ever seen....It's nasty !
    
    :-)
    
    
19.410FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Mar 27 1996 13:133
19.411...JUGHED::FLATTERYWed Mar 27 1996 13:151
    ..like his obnoxious personality??....../k
19.412If the rumor was right that used to be his day jobHOZHED::FENNELLIt's a jelly!Wed Mar 27 1996 13:211
Can you imagine him teaching 6th grade...
19.413FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Mar 27 1996 13:247
    Why d'yall hate the guy SO much ????
    
    So, he's obnoxious, HUGE, nasty, and whatever else....
    
    He's a talented man....a good actor and performer....
    
    KISS wouldn't be KISS without him....:-)
19.414SCASS1::BARBER_ABREATHE IN, BREATHE OUTWed Mar 27 1996 13:311
    Hey, K_KAMAR, go to 3 and introduce yourself.  
19.415BUSY::SLABOUNTYThe age of aquariusWed Mar 27 1996 13:403
    
    	Kit, don't mind ::FLATTERY.  She hates everybody.
    
19.416HOZHED::FENNELLIt's a jelly!Wed Mar 27 1996 14:221
Nope, I won't say it
19.417...i'd say the same about ozzie...but then he apologized....JUGHED::FLATTERYWed Mar 27 1996 14:258
    ...shawn..i'm sure i don't have to tell you what you can do with yourself.
    ..you must get ever so tired of hearing it.....the fact is that i don't 
    hate gene.. but i have had the 'pleasure' of meeting him and was just 
    reporting what i found to be true...you're right....kiss definitely 
    wouldnt' be kiss without him.....and i thought he was almost sexy in that 
    movie with tom selleck...'runaway'..i think it was called....but i found 
    him to be very obnoxious...i'm sure he was doing an act for everyone but
    that's my opinion of his behaviour on that day....so..there...;')..../k
19.418BUSY::SLABOUNTYThe call me Dr. LoveWed Mar 27 1996 14:3210
    
    	"Runaway" was a pretty good movie, I thought.
    
    	That blonde [Cynthia Rhodes] was cute, too.  And an early
    	screen appearance for Kirstie Alley, as the secretary who
    	was being "terrorized" by the office robot.
    
    	No, you don't have to tell me what I can do with myself.  I
    	HAVE heard it plenty of times.  8^)
    
19.419BUSY::SLABOUNTYThe call me Dr. LoveWed Mar 27 1996 14:336
    
    	And it's pretty neat that my p_n .COM file selected a KISS
    	song as the next in the list.
    
    	Simple things for simple minds, I guess.
    
19.420..it had to be said....JUGHED::FLATTERYWed Mar 27 1996 14:441
    re:your p_name......not to mention, wishful thinking...:")...../k
19.421HOZHED::FENNELLIt's a jelly!Wed Mar 27 1996 14:521
pname typo alert
19.422BUSY::SLABOUNTYThe call me Dr. LoveWed Mar 27 1996 14:5810
    
    	Yeah, yeah ... someone just pointed out the typo in another
    	conference.  Next time it's used it'll be correct, but I
    	don't want to change it now or the .COM file will fail on
    	the "current p_n match" and revert all the way back to the
    	top of the list.
    
    	And Karen, if your husband didn't also read this file I'd
    	have something to say to you.  8^)
    
19.423.....and don't forget to have a nice day....JUGHED::FLATTERYWed Mar 27 1996 15:112
    ...believe me shawn, you have nothing to say to me or anyone else for
    that matter......;')............./k
19.424FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Mar 27 1996 15:5711
    " Runaway " was a pretty good film.   I have it on video.
    Had to buy it when I found out Gene was in it.
    
    I've seen a couple other of his films, too.  He is a good actor,
    except he makes one UGLY hermaphrodite.....EEEEEWWWWWW....
    ( in " Never Too Young To Die " ).
    
    It's funny how Paul Stanley never got into acting....
    
    His role in " Kiss Meets The Phantom " was NOT what I would call
    ' acting '....
19.425BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Momentary Lapse of ReasonWed Mar 27 1996 16:217
    
    	"Never Too Young to Die" ... forgot about that one.  That was
    	the one with John Stamos and Vanity [yow!!].
    
    	Not very memorable, or maybe it's been too long since I've
    	seen it.
    
19.426HOZHED::FENNELLIt's a jelly!Wed Mar 27 1996 16:352
How about Ace in the Phantom movie?  Does he say anything more than ha ha???

19.427BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Momentary Lapse of ReasonWed Mar 27 1996 16:416
    
    	Even the "ha ha" was probably dubbed when he couldn't get it by
    	the 17th take.
    
    	8^)
    
19.428FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Mar 27 1996 16:431
    Hee Hee...:-)
19.429Kith?DREGS::BLICKSTEINGeneral MIDIWed Mar 27 1996 16:433
    Doesn't one of them (KISS) have a tremendous lisp?
    
    	db
19.430FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Mar 27 1996 16:515
19.431FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Mar 27 1996 16:521
19.432BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Parting Shot in the DarkWed Mar 27 1996 17:2219
    
    	Sad to say that I've seen all of these movies.  8^)
    
    
                                Gene Simmons

Actor
    
       1. Red Surf (1990)

       2. Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years, The
          (1988) .... Kiss
       3. Wanted: Dead or Alive (1987) .... Malak Al Rahim
       4. Never Too Young to Die (1986) .... Carruthers/Velvet Von Ragner
       5. Trick or Treat (1986) .... Nuke
       6. Runaway (1984) .... Luther

       7. KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park (1978) (TV) .... The Demon

19.433BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Parting Shot in the DarkWed Mar 27 1996 17:234
    
    	Add George Lazenby and Robert Englund to the cast list of
    	"Never Too Young to Die".
    
19.434FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Mar 27 1996 17:345
19.435BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Parting Shot in the DarkWed Mar 27 1996 17:506
    
    	Here's another interesting tidbit ... Peter Chriss' voice was
    	dubbed for "Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park".
    
    	Not sure if Gene is married or not.
    
19.436FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Mar 27 1996 17:565
19.437BUSY::SLABOUNTYA seemingly endless timeWed Mar 27 1996 18:056
    
    	Nope, I don't have any of the videos.  But I do have all their
    	albums, except for the new "Unplugged" album.
    
    	I got the info off of the web.
    
19.438They all acted bad in Phantom...POLAR::LYLEnever play leapfrog with a unicornThu Mar 28 1996 03:1811
    
    re: Gene being married.
    
    He is married to X-playboy playmate of the year Shannon Tweed, who is
    Canadian.
    They have been married for over 10 years now. On their 10th
    anniversary, he bought her a 15 carat diamond ring.
    Sweet eh? Coming from a demon and all......
    
    Dave
    
19.439BUSY::SLABOUNTYAlways a Best Man, never a groomThu Mar 28 1996 10:265
    
    	Shannon Tweed?  I didn't know that.
    
    	She's not bad at all.
    
19.440SCASS1::BARBER_Anod nod bang flip twirl twirlThu Mar 28 1996 10:401
    I never woulda guessed.
19.441MKOTS3::GRENIERThu Mar 28 1996 11:422
    They're actually not married, but have been together over
    ten years.
19.442Soft core porn star?DREGS::BLICKSTEINGeneral MIDIThu Mar 28 1996 13:075
    Is Shannon Tweed the one that stars in all those NC-17 movies you
    see on the shelves of your local videostore?
    
    It seems like there's a new one of those movies every time I walk
    in there!
19.443BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Thu Mar 28 1996 13:276
    
    	Yes, I'll go find a filmography for her.
    
    	Did you see "Hot Dog", the skiing movie with David Naughton?
    	Shannon was in that as "the other woman".
    
19.444BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Thu Mar 28 1996 13:3560
    
    	She was born in '57, so she's about 39 now.  And she was 8 when
    	she was on "Days of Our Lives".
    
    
                               Shannon Tweed

Actress
    
       1. Body Chemistry 4: Full Exposure (1995)
       2. Victim of Desire (1995) .... Carla Duvall
       3. Hard Vice (1994) .... Andrea
          ... aka Vegas Vice (1994)
       4. Illicit Dreams (1994) .... Moira Davis
       5. Indecent Behavior II (1994) .... Rebecca Mathis
       6. Model by Day (1994) (TV) .... Shannon
       7. Nightfire (1994) .... Lydia
       8. No Contest (1994) .... Sharon
       9. Possessed by the Night (1994) .... Carol McKay
      10. Scorned (1994)
      11. Cold Sweat (1993) .... Beth
      12. Indecent Behavior (1993) .... Rebecca Mathis
      13. Night Eyes Three (1993) .... Zoe Clairmont
      14. Liar's Edge (1992) (TV) .... Heather Burnz
      15. Night Eyes II (1992) .... Marilyn Mejenes
      16. Sexual Response (1992) .... Eve
      17. "Fly by Night" (1991) .... Sally "Slick" Monroe
      18. Firing Line, The (1991) .... Sandra Spencer
      19. Last Hour, The (1991) .... Susan
          ... aka Concrete War (1991)
      20. Last Call (1990) .... Cindy/Audrey
      21. Night Visitor (1990) .... Lisa Grace
          ... aka Never Cry Devil (1990)
      22. Twisted Justice (1990) .... Hinkle

      23. Code Name Vengeance (1989)
      24. Desperado: The Outlaw Wars (1989) (TV)
      25. In the Cold of the Night (1989) .... Lena
      26. Lethal Woman (1989) .... Tory
      27. Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death (1988) .... Dr.
          Margot Hunt
      28. Longarm (1988) (TV)
          ... aka Showdown in Silver City (1988) (TV)
      29. Last Fling, The (1987) (TV) .... Joan
      30. Meatballs III (1987) .... The Love Goddess
      31. Steele Justice (1987) .... Angela
      32. "1st & Ten" (1984) .... Kristy (1989-1990)
      33. "First Olympics - Athens 1896, The" (1984) (mini)
          ... aka "Dream One" (1984)
          ... aka "First Modern Olympics, The" (1984)
          ... aka "Winner Takes All" (1984)
      34. Hot Dog...The Movie (1984) .... Sylvia Fonda
      35. Of Unknown Origin (1984) .... Meg Hughes
      36. Surrogate, The (1984) .... Lee Waite
      37. "Falcon Crest" (1981) .... Diana Hunter (1982-1983)

      38. "Days of Our Lives" (1965) .... Savannah Wilder

Note: the titles that start with a quote (") are TV series

19.445DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceThu Mar 28 1996 14:0512
>    	Yes, I'll go find a filmography for her.
    
    Ummm... I appreciate that but... don't go to any trouble.  ;-)
    
>    	Did you see "Hot Dog", the skiing movie with David Naughton?
>    	Shannon was in that as "the other woman".
    
    I'm not sure.  Is it the one that had three Steve Morse tunes in
    the soundtrack?  There was a "skiing movie" that they had Morse
    adapt some of his tunes for and (not surprisingly) I did see that.
    
    	db
19.446HOZHED::FENNELLIt's a jelly!Thu Mar 28 1996 14:101
She must be a fine actress to have such an extensive array of film credits
19.447BUSY::SLABOUNTYBaroque: when you're out of MonetThu Mar 28 1996 14:1810
    
    	RE: Dave
    
    	No, that was "Ski Patrol".
    
    
    	RE: Tim
    
    	8^)
    
19.448BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsThu Mar 28 1996 15:203
    
    
    No she was on "days" early eighties.....
19.449BUSY::SLABOUNTYBasket CaseThu Mar 28 1996 15:537
    
    	Oh, yeah, I keep forgetting ... they have a nasty habit of
    	using the start date of soap operas instead of the date that
    	the actor/actress actually appeared on the show.
    
    	Thank you.
    
19.4508}BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsThu Mar 28 1996 16:071
    Your Welcome dear....
19.451FABSIX::K_KAMARSun Mar 31 1996 10:4011
19.452Move over Sonny.....STRATA::LAMOTHEJust me,My Fat Boy, &amp; Kelly BundyMon Apr 01 1996 18:354
    
    
     I liked Gene better when he was doing the Cher Act.... :-)
    
19.453FABSIX::K_KAMARSun Apr 07 1996 14:573
    Is there anyone that Cher HASN'T been with  ?
    
    Geez.....
19.454POLAR::LYLEnever play leapfrog with a unicornMon Apr 08 1996 02:242
    
    Me....... yet. ;^)
19.455BUSY::SLABOUNTYFUBARMon Apr 08 1996 11:433
    
    	Same here, but I haven't given up hope yet.
    
19.456BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsMon Apr 08 1996 12:212
    
    I gave a listen to Kizz Unplugged.... and   I like it !!!!
19.4578')STRATA::LAMOTHEJust me,My Fat Boy, &amp; Kelly BundyMon Apr 08 1996 16:104
    
     Lick It Up !!!
    
    
19.458POLAR::LYLEnever play leapfrog with a unicornTue Apr 09 1996 02:025
    
    re: .456
    
    Is Ace and Peter on the entire CD or just 'Rock and Roll All Night'
    
19.459FABSIX::K_KAMARTue Apr 09 1996 10:184
    Ace and Peter are on about 5 or 6 songs, if I remember correctly.
    
    The C.D. is REALLY good !!!!  :-)
                                              *** Kit ***
19.460BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsTue Apr 09 1996 13:014
    
    Oh Yes.. It is a beautiful thing.... 
    
    SueJ
19.461HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Tue Apr 09 1996 13:161
Anyone got a song list and a list of the songs that Ace & Peter play on?
19.462FABSIX::K_KAMARTue Apr 09 1996 18:2011
    
    O.K.....I'll try to remember....
    
    2000 Man  ( Ace )
    Nothing To Lose ( Ace & Peter )
    Beth ( Peter )
    Rock N' Roll All Nite ( Ace & Peter )
    
    I believe there is one more, but I can't remember at the moment.
    
                                *** Kit ***
19.463FABSIX::K_KAMARTue Apr 09 1996 18:3915
    Other songs on the c.d. are :
    
          Coming Home             World Without Heroes
          Rock Bottom             See You Tonite           
          Plaster Caster          I Still Love You
          Goin' Blind             Every Time I Look At You.....
                                  
          Do You Love Me
          Sure Know Something
          Domino                  
                                       PLUS...the songs with Ace & Peter.
    
    
    It's really great to hear acoustic versions of these songs !!!!
    Definitely  one of the best KISS albums out.... :-)
19.464interesting announcementPOLAR::LYLEnever play leapfrog with a unicornWed Apr 10 1996 04:1913
    
    The opening band for the make-up tour has been named.
    Stone Temple Pilots will be the opening band on at least the North
    American leg of the tour. Should be pretty good.
    
    
    re: Kit
    
    Thanks for the info. I guess I'll pick it up over the weekend.
    
    
    Dave
    
19.465WHAT A SHOW THAT WOULD BE....KDCA03::CDCUP_TORRENGotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burnWed Apr 10 1996 12:238
    
    	STP and Make-Up Kiss...CCCOOOOLLL...I hope they stay together
    through Canada, I'll go fur-sure...
    
    	How is Domino, Un-Plugged? I love that tune, Gene has got a
    great voice...
    
    	Bobby T
19.466FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Apr 10 1996 13:5714
    DOMINO is great, acoustic-version !!!! ;-)
    Sounds real heavy and bluesy.....I LOVE IT !!!!
    
    Actually, in order to fully appreciate KISS-Unplugged...ya gotta get
    the video.
    
    The show that aired on MTV was edited for time & content...and leaves
    out A LOT....the video version has ALL of the songs, plus rehearsal
    and backstage footage, interviews with all of the band...
    ( including Ace & Peter )....It's really cool. :-)
    
              *** Kit ***
    
    P.S.: Gene DOES have a great voice. ;-)
19.467HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Wed Apr 10 1996 15:146
If I heard right this morning STP will be doing a costume tribute to KISS as a
warmup act.  Apparently they consider KISS to be one of their stonger influences
when they were kids.  STP wanted the slot for part of the tour for the honor of
opening for KISS.

Tim
19.468PCBUOA::WHITMANJFri Apr 12 1996 13:139
    
    
    
    Can anyone confirm a rumor that Motley Crue with the original lineup
    and makeup were gonna open for them during part of this tour? 
    
    Whit-
    
    
19.469HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Fri Apr 12 1996 13:261
I heard STP, not Motley Cure
19.470HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Fri Apr 12 1996 13:273
Hmmm Motley Cure, what type of music would they play?

deep, brooding music about babes and cars
19.471PCBUOA::WHITMANJFri Apr 12 1996 13:299
    
    
    YEAH! ;')
    
    I heard they were only doing part of the tour.. But, I figured if they
    were gonna get the original lineup, and makeup, they'd do the whole
    thing.. 
    
    
19.472IS VINCE STILL TOURING???KDCA03::CDCUP_TORRENGotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burnMon Apr 15 1996 14:326
    
    	W O W,  Crue together, with their Old Make-Up as well....Man
    that would be the BEST, BETTER then Kiss....Man I'm pumped, PLEASE
    don't let this be a vicious rumor...
    
    	Bobby T
19.473FABSIX::K_KAMARMon Apr 15 1996 16:5011
19.474detroit rock citySTRATA::LAMOTHEJust me,My Fat Boy, &amp; Kelly BundyMon Apr 15 1996 17:375
    
     Just ask Sonny Bono, he'll tell ya....Cher is with Gene
    again....Boy...her video was gnads, the battleship was amazing...
    
    
19.475FABSIX::K_KAMARMon Apr 15 1996 17:414
    Say WHAT ?????????  I'm confused....%-}  ( not unlike usual...) ;-)
    
    
    
19.476STRATA::LAMOTHEJust me,My Fat Boy, &amp; Kelly BundyMon Apr 15 1996 17:524
    
     Huh ???  %^)  What did you say ????
    
    
19.477BUSY::SLABOUNTYCandy'O, I need you ...Tue Apr 16 1996 12:137
    
    	Kit, don't listen to Sax.  We try not to.
    
    	Would you dump Shannon Tweed for Cher??  Well, I guess that
    	question doesn't have the same impact when asked of a female,
    	but you get my point anyways.
    
19.478FABSIX::K_KAMARTue Apr 16 1996 12:4412
19.479PATE::SCHIAVONEWe take donations from all denominationsTue Apr 16 1996 12:468
  
    >>It's depressing....extremely...and it is also soooooo strange
    >>since he has always seemed to be the kinda guy that would only "do"
    >>one-night-flings with his " groupies ".
    
    >>Anyhow....pushing all that aside....

	I read this wrong.  Pushing all that inside is how I read it...
19.480Kiss...me...please...STRATA::LAMOTHEJust me,My Fat Boy, &amp; Kelly BundyTue Apr 16 1996 14:3913
    
     Well, this will be a Serious Note from me today !!!  < Drum Roll
    Pleasze...>
    
    
      Heard at 7:25 this morin'n on WAAF that Kiss will be making a
    New York Announcment of thier upcoming coming world tour, and Yes
    they will be in Make-Up once again....
    
       Only thing that was Not mentioned is ....Are the Members all
    original too...or the FAKE Kiss from there last album ??
    
    
19.481Let's see how long the tour lasts now......POLAR::RENAUDPBeware of old men in hats!Wed Apr 17 1996 02:388
    Heard on the Bear this evening that the originals WILL be on the.....
    are you ready for this cheese....
    
     "KISS and MAKE-UP" tour.
    
    They also stated that they are already fighting!! 
    
    Paully
19.482POLAR::LYLEsleep with one eye open....Wed Apr 17 1996 03:422
    
    Fighting? Over what? The amount of drugs alotted to Ace?
19.483Maybe they were fighting over lip liner and mascara!POLAR::RENAUDPBeware of old men in hats!Wed Apr 17 1996 08:108
    ACTUALLY.......
    
    I heard it was because Ace wanted to wear the 12 inch spikes, and Paul
    had already claimed them!
    
    NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    8) Paully
19.484BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't get even ... get odd!!Wed Apr 17 1996 11:493
    
    	I hear that they'll be at the Providence Civic Center on 07/30.
    
19.485BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsWed Apr 17 1996 11:562
    
    No way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19.486Even better than "Hell Freezes Over"DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceWed Apr 17 1996 12:111
    With a name like "The KISS and Make-up tour"... they HAVE to do it!!!
19.487DAGWUD::FLATTERYWed Apr 17 1996 15:203
    ..i heard that they are playing a number of venues (look it
    up!)...around here..including the fleet center...july 31 i think...i'm
    sure everyone will have the details by tomorrow............./k
19.488BUSY::SLABOUNTYErotic NightmaresWed Apr 17 1996 16:334
    
    	Yes, Hartford CT is also on the schedule ... before the Prov-
    	idence show.
    
19.489KISS WORLD TOUR....STRATA::CARROLLThu Apr 18 1996 17:5821
    
    
    o.k. i dont know if any of you are ready for this but what the hell.
    
    gene simmons
    paul stanley
    ace frealy (did i spell that right)
    peter criss
    
    will reunite for a world tour starting this june.
    (found out about this 5 months ago but didnt want to say anything
    incase it didnt happen,but when they were on the grammies you new it
    was going to happen.)anyway, they will play the fleet center on JULY
    31. dont know when tickets go on sale but will keep you posted.
    also dont know if fireworks will be used. 
    (this is mass dont forget, kennedyville at it's best)
    
    if anyone heres about tickets going on sale please post it......
    
    
     bill
19.490POWDML::BUCKLEYThu Apr 18 1996 18:483
    Providence Civic Center (w/fire & fireworks) -- July 30
    
    Fleet Center (Fire questionable) -- July 31
19.491BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsThu Apr 18 1996 18:571
    excellent excellent !!!!!
19.492start saving now...CSLALL::SECURITYLUNCHBOXThu Apr 18 1996 22:419
    I heard the ticket prices are going to be silly. Everybody knows how
    the Eagles tix looked (the tour that never happened due to Joe Walsh
    and his stomach) for a terrible album. The demand for KISS tickets,
    particularly the original lineup in makeup, is so great, the fans are
    so rabid, that these guys can get away with charging $90 a pop, before
    the scalpers get their hands on them. 
    
    
    dave
19.493MKOTS3::GRENIERFri Apr 19 1996 10:283
    That was Glenn Frey & his stomach...and the tour wasn't cancelled. 
    Only certain dates were missed.  They made it to Great Woods in
    Mass., and the show was great!
19.494SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri Apr 19 1996 10:366
    
    $90 a ticket is a bit steep for one band.I may pass...
    
    
    
    				Ian
19.495POWDML::BUCKLEYFri Apr 19 1996 11:035
    I'd pay $200 a pop to see the 1977 KIZZ tour again -- history in the
    making, folks.
    
    Besides, did yo uever stop to think what it must COST them to
    produce a show of this magnitude??
19.496SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri Apr 19 1996 11:457
    
    Buck,
        I think the Kiss lads aren't hurting for money and could afford to
    spend a couple of dollars of their own cash and not rip off the public.
    
    
    						Ian
19.497who needs friends like that!?!PCBUOA::OROURKEDoes anybody really know what time it is?Fri Apr 19 1996 11:5310
    
    RE: -1
    
    Wishful thinking there Ian.  It is a rare entertainer that is into
    charity even when it is FOR a charity.   I was pretty well disgusted
    when I heard Dionne Warwick talking about how she was perfectedly 
    justified demanding a limo/fancy dressing room/expensive food as part
    of the 'that's what friends are for' tour bit.
    
    /jen
19.498HOPE THEY TOUR CANADA...KDCA01::CDCUP_TORRENGotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burnFri Apr 19 1996 12:1317
    	I would pay $90 to see Kiss, I would NEVER even consider paying
    $10 to see the Eagles. I think there are a few differences between
    the two though. I mean Kiss is coming out with their original line-up
    and their old stage and their original costumes. And for people
    like my self who were to young to attend an original Kiss concert,
    this is a great opportunity. And as well as getting the Kiss concert,
    your also getting the Stone Temple Pilots, the way I look at it
    $45 bucks each...The Eagles for 2 or 3 hours straight, that should
    be punishment, I know that would deture me from doing bad things...
    
    	However, if the concert tickets are much more, I would think
    they might be pushing it. But then again, I'll betcha every show
    is sold out...And a few notes back had a good point, the cost of
    putting on a show like this, has got to be pretty steep. I wonder
    if Kiss gets $1 for every $3 made, like Shane...*))
    
    	Bobby T
19.499Soon partedDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceFri Apr 19 1996 12:1914
>    I'd pay $200 a pop to see the 1977 KIZZ tour again -- history in the
>    making, folks.
    
    Proving once more that those who do not learn from history are doomed
    to repeat it.
    
    This ain't "making history", this is rehashing history.
    
>    Besides, did yo uever stop to think what it must COST them to
>    produce a show of this magnitude??\
    
    As you are fond of saying... Oh puh-leese!
    
    	db
19.500cant wait !BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsFri Apr 19 1996 12:202
    
    It will be Truly History Revisited...
19.501I wanna hear it loud!POLAR::TYSICKIf ya wanna come in 2nd; follow me!Fri Apr 19 1996 12:3111
    I heard the reason they're touring in make-up and full costume...
    
    Is cause they wanna cover up all those wrinkles and liver spots!
    
    And I can't believe I'm writting this, but...I agree with Bobby T!
    
    I was always to young to go with my brother and sisters to see them as
    they were intended. I've only seen them once, during the "Revenge" tour
    and I went fairly mentally watching that one...I don't even wanna think
    of what's gonna happen for this one!  And STP is just the cherry on
    top!
19.502The Oldest Band in the Land...KISS!!!!!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Apr 19 1996 13:1811
    ...well, as an elder statesman who's seen KISS 7 times in their
    glory daze (1975 thru 1978), I cannot wait fer this show!
    Just think: a bunch of old, beer-belly former KISS Army wackos
    and a bunch of young, skinny teens and Gen-Xers....
    
    should be a wild time fer sure!  
    
    I also read that tickets will be running the full gammet, soo
    hopefully everyone will be accomodated....
    
    mac
19.503things about prices...SUBSYS::MSOUCYFri Apr 19 1996 13:3033
    
    I saw them in Providence with New England back in either '78 or '79. I
    think it was '79. Cool show, we weren't that close to the stage but did
    get confetti all over us, and I think my buddy caught one of the Kizz
    Army patched that came outta the big disco ball up above that had them
    in it. Don't remember much of the entire show, peter criss with the
    rising drum kit with big cat head underneath, rotating left-to-right
    during his solo, Ace with his flashing lights in guitar as it was taken
    up high via cable and he comes out with same guitar and shoots
    something from it that heads for hanging guitar and blows it up, Gene
    spitting blood (no Axe bass....that I can remember him playing), then
    being hauled via cables up to catwalk above stage singing "God of
    Thunder" tune. Oh yeah, spitting a couple flames too! Don't remember
    Paul doing anything special, except look like a pretty-boy (as usual).
    
    Cool show, almost got my toe(s) broken from idiot next to me when
    patches came down....he almost got a broken nose too! And Kizz wuz all
    in makeup and wearing them high-heeled 7" platform shoes! It was a good
    show, but I can't justify paying that much for tickets, not to help
    them get rich, rehash old memories, etc...Now if I was given a pair or
    two, I'd go! I spent $45 for Queensryche back in I think their '91
    Building Empires tour (last row center section in Centrum, section 2)
    and it was PERFECT! Only stood twice, had complete view of stage, and
    was plenty close enough (clothes shaking from bass and drums!). Paid
    $88 for a pair to last QR show last year, EXCELLENT show, worth IMO as
    I am a fan of them and Type O (another reason why I went).
    
    But, I can't see coughing up that much for Eagles or Kizz or basically
    anyone else, even The Who or Pink Floyd. My opinion on ticket prices...
    
    later daze
    
    
19.504POWDML::BUCKLEYFri Apr 19 1996 13:363
    -1
    
    That was the 1979 show.
19.505EDWIN::HOOKERFri Apr 19 1996 13:4813
    I was never really into Kiss.  $90 a ticket ?!  Not for Kiss.
    Maybe if VanHalen ever toured again with DLR...well no not even
    then cause Diamond Dave just sucks now.  
    
    I'm sure it's costing them a lot to put the show together.
    Makeup and high heels aren't cheap.  I learned that from shopping
    with JJ.  The reason that tickets will probably be so outrageous
    is because there are probably a bajillion people in on the deal that
    are out to make a buck.  Not *you* Buck, I was meaning a dollar ;)
    I'm sure that people will pay whatever price they set though...I just
    hope you guys aren't dissapointed.  
    
    Shane, who wonders if they'll spit fire and stuff too..
19.506CHIPS::FLATTERYFri Apr 19 1996 14:434
    ...i think i'll wait for it on hbo..i'm sure they'll be filming this
    for posterity..and for the video dollars.......BTW...could I make a request
    of some of you "spelling impaired"...please refrain from using words
    that you dont' know how to spell.........thank you......../k.
19.507BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Fri Apr 19 1996 14:513
    
    	Oh, you mean like "don't"?
    
19.508...so THAIR!......CHIPS::FLATTERYFri Apr 19 1996 15:055
    ...not being anal, i wasn't talking about punctuation or obvious
    typos...or other dyslexic stuff.....i'm talking major big league,'i
    have no clue how to spell it so i'll write it phonetically' type of
    stuff.............illiteracy drives me crazy.....and since these people
    work at digital, i frankly expect some amount of literacy from them...
19.509BUSY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Fri Apr 19 1996 15:076
    
    	Oh, now I understand.  8^)
    
    	Just remember, some of the people in here are security guards,
    	so you can't expect too much from them.  8^)
    
19.510or is that your point? :^)PCBUOA::OROURKEDoes anybody really know what time it is?Fri Apr 19 1996 15:095
    
    /k,  if I can't write anything unless I'm sure it is spelled right,
    I won't be able to write at all! :^)
    
    /jen
19.511CHIPS::FLATTERYFri Apr 19 1996 15:121
    ..r.e: -1...bologna.......;')......you KNOW what i mean.....
19.512A little more info...BINKLY::GWILLIAMSFri Apr 19 1996 15:4866
   
    Kiss Press Conference, 4/16/96, U.S.S. Intrepid Air, Sea and Space
    Museum, New York, NY
    
    "We still look as silly now as we did 15 years ago", was how Ace
    Frehley described his thoughts on being back in makeup at the 4/16 
    press conference on the Intrepid Museum in N.Y.  Following up their 
    Grammy appearance, Kiss announced the much awaited start of their 
    upcoming reunion tour.  Gene and Paul had much to say, while Ace 
    and Peter were slightly less verbose.
    
    
    Among the concrete information revealed:
    
     - Kiss will play a warm-up date at the K-Rock Weenie Fest in Los
       Angeles on June 15th.  Their first official tour date is June 
       28th at Tiger Stadium in Detroit.  Stone Temple Pilots will be 
       opening.
    
     - A "very special compilation album" containing unreleased live
       recordings "from the era of the first two live albums" will be 
       released in June.  Details TBA.  Paul described it as a 
       commemorative of "Alive I and Alive II together with never 
       before heard live tracks from that period, all stuff that comes 
       out of the vaults."
    
     - The band will headline the Monsters of Rock in England.  No date 
       was mentioned.
    
    
    Among the bushes beat around :
    
     - Ticket prices.  All Paul Stanley would say was that  "...we're
       trying to make sure that ticket prices really range from very 
       low, up to whatever...  We want to make sure that... there's a 
       ticket for everybody."  (The current ticket price rumors are: 
       $28, $55, and $85).
    
     - The set list.  At first, Gene said that they would be sticking 
       to "the classic Kiss."  But when someone asked him whether they 
       would play songs from the solo albums, he negotiated a bit:  
       "We're open to all kinds of things... We're going to give the 
       fans exactly what they want.  If they want to hear Rock And Roll 
       All Nite that's what we'll do.  If they want to hear songs from 
       a certain period, we will do that.  We're here for the fans."  
       Paul commented that this show would not be a clone of the Love 
       Gun/Alive II tour, but rather a show that is "loosely based" 
       upon it.  "This [show] makes that look small time."  He then 
       added that the show would be at least two hours long.
    
     - Future of the original Kiss.  When asked what the future is for 
       the band, Ace and Gene responded simply that they're going on a 
       world tour, while Peter added "a lot of tours, a long time!"  
       Paul commented "We're committed to this for a year, two years, 
       whatever it takes.  And that'll be the first tour."  When the 
       subject came up again later though, Paul sounded more guarded.  
       "We can't make promises.  We've got to stay true to ourselves 
       and stay honest...  We don't make any promises.  We're going to 
       do this as long as it feels good.  And you'll know the day it 
       doesn't."
    
       Gene described Kiss' intentions:  "We're going to show every 
       band how the big boys do it... We're going to approach this like 
       Kisstory, a page at a time.  And the story will unfold before 
       your eyes."
    
19.513CSLALL::SECURITYLUNCHBOXFri Apr 19 1996 16:5220
    Not sure if I'll check it out, maybe just to laugh at Stanley shaking
    his backside. I usually hate arena shows, you might as well get the
    inevitable pay-per-view special.
    
    These guys have always been about marketing. I have a friend who is
    deep into KISS, he has all the vids they have released plus an
    impressive collection of bootlegs. On one of the "official" tapes, they
    say they dropped the fire/blood/makeup thing because they were singing
    these songs about sex, and they'd go to their shows and little kids
    would be running around, and that wasn't their target audience. Yet, on
    the same tape, they show ads for the products that were available at
    the time: KISS dolls, KISS makeup kits, KISS boardgames, all stuff for
    little kids with little kids in the commercials!!! My buddy has a comic
    book that KISS supposedly put some of their blood in the ink. KISS has
    always struck me as a band that tries to make money anywhere they can
    get it. This tour will NOT be for the fans, it will be for the fans'
    money. At least the Sex Pistols are honest about that.
    
    
    dave
19.514BRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsFri Apr 19 1996 17:181
    Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
19.515FABSIX::K_KAMARSun Apr 21 1996 10:345
19.516WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlSun Apr 21 1996 11:425
    This Ol'_Hippy is Gonna Diss(Oh_No,I Said A Disco_Word)One.
    Seen em in 77(I Believe)and Twas Great.
    
    
       Crazy_Plaster_Caster_Al
19.517God of Thunder....STRATA::LAMOTHEA B B ASun Apr 21 1996 16:445
    
     I'd Give up my TWO unborn children for tickets to the KIZZ
    show...their Axcellent !!!!
    
    /Sax_who_loved thier_Movie_also....
19.518POLAR::LYLEChairman of the BoredMon Apr 22 1996 01:467
    
    re: .509
    
    Ahem, I am one of 'Security Guards' you have refered to.
    And I speel jest finne thanks.....
    
    Dave
19.519BUSY::SLABOUNTYCatch you later!!Mon Apr 22 1996 12:075
    
    	Sorry, Dave, that was meant for Dave Lunchbox.
    
    	8^)
    
19.520CSLALL::SECURITYLUNCHBOXMon Apr 22 1996 16:132
    I would like a list of spelling errors, Shawn, before I'm burned at the
    stake.
19.521BUSY::SLABOUNTYDILLIGAFMon Apr 22 1996 16:245
    
    	Denied!!
    
    	Executioner, off with his head!!
    
19.522koolSTRATA::LAMOTHEA B B AMon Apr 22 1996 17:255
    
      I know...Let's have the KIZZ robots Kill him....HA ha ha ha ha !
    
    /Dr._Kiss-in-stien
    
19.523BUSY::SLABOUNTYDo ya wanna bump and grind with me?Mon Apr 22 1996 17:405
    
    	Nah, we can get better robots than that.
    
    	STAAAAAAATION!!
    
19.524CSLALL::SECURITYLUNCHBOXMon Apr 22 1996 19:236
    Phantom of The Park was ridiculous. It got cool when KISS showed up,
    but they aren't even around for the first hour!!! I like when the robot
    KISS guys were playing "HOTTER THEN HELL", but were singing "rip, rip,
    rip and destroy" and the fans were rioting. My friend bought that
    video, too. He would buy a piece of horse manure if it said KISS on the
    side.
19.525BUSY::SLABOUNTYDogbert's New Ruling Class: 100KMon Apr 22 1996 19:475
    
    	I have that video, so watch it.
    
    	8^)
    
19.526CSLALL::SECURITYLUNCHBOXMon Apr 22 1996 19:562
    Start the tape now, and I'll be over in an hour when it gets
    interesting.
19.527CSLALL::SECURITYLUNCHBOXMon Apr 22 1996 20:035
    My favorite line from PHANTOM:
    
    
    Paul has knocked the head off of a robot-monkey-man thing, and (ace?)
    looks at him and says "They all lose their heads over you, Paul."
19.528FABSIX::K_KAMARMon Apr 22 1996 20:095
    ...." It's a cosmic forcefield that protects our talismen...."
         
                            Quoth Gene
    
    
19.529CSLALL::SECURITYLUNCHBOXMon Apr 22 1996 21:024
    ..."you're looking for someone, and it isn't KISS..."
    
    
    				Quoth Paul
19.530CSLALL::SECURITYLUNCHBOXMon Apr 22 1996 21:163
    While I'm at it, why doesn't Paul get a cover-up of that cheesy rose on
    his bicep? Is he too stingy to shell out a few hundred for a decent
    tattoo? How about laser removal? That's the gaudiest thing...
19.531FABSIX::K_KAMARMon Apr 22 1996 21:216
19.532CSLALL::SECURITYLUNCHBOXMon Apr 22 1996 21:257
    CRUE actually has decent artwork, though it is a bit much. Axl Rose is
    another who is a blight on the tattoo community; his art is good, but a
    bunch of small tats scattered about with no rhyme or reason isn't too
    attractive IMO. There is a band out called Machine Head. While I've
    never heard their music, they've been featured in a few of my
    tat/piercing mags cuz they've got really nice work. Where is Shawn? He
    usually shows up around now to give his opinion on tats...
19.533Rollins Da Champine of Tats!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Apr 23 1996 09:514
    Henry Rollins has KOOL tattoo's....wha'zit say, "Search & Destroy"?
    or somethin' like dat?
    
    hangover_mac
19.534yupSUBSYS::MSOUCYTue Apr 23 1996 10:019
    
    
    re: -1
    
    Yup, saw him in Boston a few years ago. He also has the huge sun/face
    covering a good portion of his back under "Search and Destroy". That
    one is cool looking!
    
    
19.535tix???BIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsTue Apr 23 1996 11:138
    Caught some of Kiss on Rock Line last night.
    Actually caught very little but did hear Gene say that Tiger Stadium
    sold out in 47minutes. Ought to be fun trying to get tix when
    they go on sale here in NE.
    Sounds like the stage show is gonna be wild....Paul said something
    like the old days except on steroids!!
    
    Andy
19.536BUSY::SLABOUNTYDuster :== idiot driver magnetTue Apr 23 1996 11:348
    
    	Dave, am I that vocal on the subject of tattoos?  8^)
    
    	I don't have any, and very probably won't get any, but if any-
    	one wants to waste their money on them then that's fine with me.
    
    	8^)
    
19.537FABSIX::K_KAMARTue Apr 23 1996 13:217
19.538better be quickKDCA03::CDCUP_TORRENGotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burnTue Apr 23 1996 13:255
    
    	I heard, they sold-out in Detroit (first show) in 47 minutes,
    which was some kind of a record for a stadium show in Detroit.
    
    Bobby T
19.539BUSY::SLABOUNTYErin go braghlessTue Apr 23 1996 13:327
    
    	RE: .538
    
    	Yes, just as was posted in .535.
    
    	8^)
    
19.540'78 was a good yearSTRATA::LAMOTHEA B B ATue Apr 23 1996 13:346
    
     I'm gonna get some tickets...and I am wearing my bell bottom flared
    pants and night fever shirt for the era....of course I will now let my
    hair grow long and begin searching for some 4 inch heeled shoes...
    
    
19.541everybody's gotta leave their VISACSLALL::SECURITYTue Apr 23 1996 20:151
    Ya gotta lose your mind (and money) in Detroit, rock city...
19.542occurred to me in the showerCSLALL::SECURITYWed Apr 24 1996 19:048
    So what will become of the other 2 bumbs that have been playing with
    KISS, Bruce Kullock(sp?) and that blondy drummer?  Isn't it wierd that
    KISS had a blonde in them lately? It just didn't look right to me. So
    are they going to be dragged along for this fiasco, too? Are they now
    unemployed? Will KISS rehire them every few years like Sabbath did to
    Dio? If they come along, must they get a makeup design? Vinnie Vincent
    and Eric Carr looked terrible in their brief makeup stints. This tour
    is creating more questions than answers, it seems...
19.543FABSIX::K_KAMARKeep Your Hands Off My Power SupplyWed Apr 24 1996 20:2912
19.544POLAR::LYLEChairman of the BoredThu Apr 25 1996 01:5511
    
    Eric Carr looked ok in make up. Vinny Vincent just looks terrible. 
    
    I would imagine that Kulick and Singer will be travelling with them.
    Kulick has been in the band longer than Ace and Peter.
    
    Side note, more of a question really.... didn't Eric Singer play in
    Vinny Vincent's Invasion? and in a gathering of players that called
    themselves Black Sabbath in the mid to late 80's?
    
    Dave
19.545MKOTS3::GRENIERThu Apr 25 1996 02:255
    re: Eric Singer
    
    I don't think he was with Vinnie Vincent, but I'm not sure about
    Black Sabbath.  He was the drummer for the first Badlands album
    (with Jake E. Lee).  That's a rulin' album!
19.546POLAR::LYLEChairman of the BoredThu Apr 25 1996 02:529
    
    But I'm sure I seen his name in the KISS 'tree' that's on the back of
    KISS Alive III liner notes. 
    I'll have to check again...
    
    Yes, Jake E. Lee's album is roolin' (whatever happened to him??)
    
    Dave
    
19.547re-releases coming up!SUBSYS::MSOUCYThu Apr 25 1996 10:045
    
    Heard this morning they are going to re-release Kizz Alive I & II
    digitally remastered....
    
    
19.548Bruce and EricBIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsThu Apr 25 1996 10:4711
>    So what will become of the other 2 bumbs that have been playing with
>    KISS, Bruce Kullock(sp?) and that blondy drummer?  Isn't it weird that


this question we brought up on Rockline the other night. Not quite put
that way but pretty much the same question. Gene answered and kind of
gave it the run around...saying that Bruce and Eric gave the tour their
blessing, that they are all members of the Kiss family...and so on.
But he never really said what or where they will be going. My impression
is that they will not be touring but will return to the band once the
original four start feuding again!!!
19.549SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienThu Apr 25 1996 13:177
    
    
    Bruce is 10 times better the guitar player that Ace could ever dream of
    being.
    
    
    						Ian
19.550HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Thu Apr 25 1996 13:4210
    
>    Heard this morning they are going to re-release Kizz Alive I & II
>    digitally remastered....
    

This is marketing hype at its finest.  The crowd noise on those albums give them
a noise floor of like 20-30dbs...  There is no dynamic range on those albums at
all - the crowd just shreiks the whole time.

Tim
19.551at least ACE played with soulPOWDML::BUCKLEYThu Apr 25 1996 15:065
    Ian,
    
    Bollocks!  ACE ROOLZ!  
    
    Bruce Kulick is a pentatonic box-playing idiot imvho
19.552SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienThu Apr 25 1996 15:229
    
    Ace rools the toilet....!
    
    
    remember the solo to "I love it loud"? Utter bollocks it is,half a
    dozen bends and nothing imaginative.
    
    
    						Ian
19.553CSLALL::SECURITYThu Apr 25 1996 18:079
    Part of Ace's charm is his tone deaf vocals on hits such as "Shock Me",
    "Back in the NY Groove" (my fav kiss song, btw!), etc. Add to it the
    way he staggered around the stage in a heroin induced stupor and you
    know why Bruce is just somebody to fill the empty space left on the
    stage. KISS of late has been referred to as "Half of KISS and a couple
    of dishrags" in my circle of friends. I guess that will change.
    
    
    dave
19.554BUSY::SLABOUNTYBuzzword BingoThu Apr 25 1996 18:083
    
    	Ummm, well, "Back in the NY Groove" isn't a Kiss song.
    
19.555CSLALL::SECURITYThu Apr 25 1996 19:505
    Isn't it? I know it's on his solo album. Kinda thought it was on a KISS
    album, too. Either way, they played it live as KISS.
    
    
    dave
19.556BUSY::SLABOUNTYCandy'O, I need you ...Thu Apr 25 1996 19:573
    
    	Nope, it's Ace solo.
    
19.557CSLALL::SECURITYThu Apr 25 1996 20:224
    It was on something else, I think. KISS did play it live, I know this
    for a fact. I remember watching one of my buddy's bootlegs and getting
    all excited that they were playing it. 
    
19.558BUSY::SLABOUNTYCareer Opportunity Week at DECThu Apr 25 1996 20:295
    
    	Debbie Gibson could play it in concert, which would still not
    	make it anything but an Ace Frehley song played by someone
    	else.
    
19.559CSLALL::SECURITYThu Apr 25 1996 21:172
    Who played on the album with ace? Was it KISS, or did each member
    gather a group of musicians to play along? I was never sure of this...
19.560POLAR::LYLEChairman of the BoredFri Apr 26 1996 04:598
    
    re: .552
    
    Wasn't Paul the one with the solo one I Love it Loud? And yes, the solo
    does suck, although Ace is a better guitarist then Kulick, IMO
    
    Dave
    
19.561POWDML::BUCKLEYFri Apr 26 1996 10:2410
    Ian,
    
    ACE was OUT of KIZZ by the time they did "I Love it Loud".  nnttm.
    
    Lunchbox -- Yes, each member of Kizz hired studio musicians to play
    on their solo albums.  ACE got all the top NY cats to do his, which
    is one reason it's so great!!  (I agree, NY Groove is awesome).
    
    Dave in -1 is correct, ACE is a better guitarist than Kulick.
    Not technically, but overall, better, indeed.
19.562SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri Apr 26 1996 11:1510
    
    
    hang on....I saw a video with all 4 original members playing "I love it
    loud".It was a live video
    
    
    
    either way,Ace is shite! 8)
    
    					Ian
19.563KIZZ FactsBRAT::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsFri Apr 26 1996 11:5125
    KISS Fact of the Week:
    In 1982, Paul Stanley had made his acting debut in a cameo
    role in the comedy movie "Young Doctor's in Love." He played
    himself, in makeup, but as a patient who had accidentally
    swallowed a microphone onstage. Unfortunately, Paul's scene
    was cut out of the final print of the movie.
    
    KISS Fact of the Week:
    In early 1977, Kiss became the first band since the Beatles
    to have 4 albums on the Billboard Hot 100 album chart.
    "Alive," "Destroyer," "Rock and Roll Over," and "The
    Originals" were all in the top 40 at the same time. To this
    day, no other band has accomplished that feat.
    
    
    KISS Fact of the Week:
    In 1983, Gene Simmons turned down the male, romantic,
    leading role in "Flashdance," in fear of hurting his image.
    
    
    KISS Fact of the Week:
    In 1975, producer Eddie Kramer passed up the opportunity to produce
    the debut
    album from Boston so that he could produce KISS's "Alive" album.
    
19.564BUSY::SLABOUNTYCrackerFri Apr 26 1996 11:574
    
    	"Young Doctors in Love" was a riot!!  I'll have to look for
    	that so I can see it again.
    
19.565BUSY::SLABOUNTYCrazy Cooter comin' atcha!!Fri Apr 26 1996 12:24158
    
    	Looks like most of the cast of "General Hospital" appeared in
    	this film!!  I hate to admit it, but I watched it for a summer
    	or so when I was 14-15 ... right around the time that Luke
    	"saved the city" from something that had to do with an "Ice
    	Princess", and on through David Gray and the hologram scam to
    	rip off a local museum, etc.
    
    	Of note here ... this is Michael Richards' [Kramer on "Sein-
    	feld"] 1st movie.
    
    
                        Young Doctors in Love (1982)

                              USA 1982 Color

                             5.0/10 (109 votes)

Produced by: 20th Century Fox
Genre(s)/keyword(s): spoof
Certification: USA:R

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Directed by
     Garry Marshall

Cast (in alphabetical order)
     Margie Anderson .... Boy with Fly's Mother
     Dottie Archibald .... Woman who almost got licked
     Alexandra Balahoutis .... Spoiled Brat
     Robert E. Ball .... Mickey Callaghan
     Jaime Lyn Bauer .... Soap Cameo
     Ed Begley Jr. .... Young Simon's Father
     John Berardino .... Soap Cameo
     Crystal Bernard .... Julie
     Billie Bird .... Flower Girl
     Charlie Brill .... Doctor Quick
     Tom Byrd .... New Intern
     Hamilton Camp .... Oscar Katz
     Frank Campanella .... Young Simon's Grandfather
     Stuart Charno .... Warren the Orderly
     Dabney Coleman .... Dr. Joseph Prang
     Patrick Collins .... Dr. Walter Rist
     Susan Cotton .... Newscaster
     William Ed Cree .... Mr. Bannerman
     Claudia Crown .... Sanchez
     Michael Damian .... Soap Cameo
     Stuart Damon .... Soap Cameo
     Shad Davis .... Little Boy in Park
     Nancy Davis-Lane .... Miss Pendergast
     Stephanie Dizon .... Little Girl in Park
     David Dozer .... Santa Claus
     Ella Raino Edwards .... Doctor Stevens
     Michael Elias .... Spectator
     Hector Elizondo .... Angelo/Angela
     Arlene Eustis .... Bobby
     Lou Evans .... Nervous Patient
     Steven Ford .... Soap Cameo
     Gary Friedkin .... Dr. Milton Chamberlain
     David Friedman .... Young Simon
     George Furth .... Disgusting Looking Patient
     Monique Gabrielle
     Becky Gonzalez .... Perez
     Kyle T. Heffner .... Dr. Charles Litto
     Hillary Horan .... Theresa
     Toni Hudson .... Bunny
     Robert Iannucci .... Calvin Klein Model
     Larry Flash Jenkins .... Paul the Orderly
     Sonya Jennings .... Nina
     Art Kassul .... Cop with Assault Victim
     Neal Kaz .... Ward Patient #1
     Tony Kerum .... Guido
     David Ketchum .... Balloon Man
     Deborah Lacey .... Phone Stripper
     Tom Ligon .... Soap Cameo
     Lisa Lindgren .... Usherette #1
     Kimberly Louis .... Party Guest
     Eric MacDonald .... Little Cowboy
     Patrick MacNee .... Jacobs
     Coleen Maloney .... Jones
     Arnold Margolin .... Doctor Whitehat
     Diane Markoff .... Emilia
     Kathi Marshall .... Usherette #2
     Lori Marshall .... Football Playing Maid
     Scott Marshall .... Boy with Fly
     Kimberly McArthur .... Jyll Amato
     Ted McGinley .... Dr. Bucky DeVol
     Michael McKean .... Dr. Simon August
     Emily McLaughlin .... Soap Cameo
     Nicholas Mele .... Jerry
     Rose Michtom .... Mrs. Pierce
     Haunani Minn .... Chang
     Demi Moore
     Kelly Moran .... Skateboard Nurse
     John Moschitta Jr. .... Complaining Man
     Taylor Negron .... Dr. Phil Burns
     James O'Connell .... Blind Officer
     Rick Overton .... Dr. Thurman Flicker
     Jill Owens .... Angelo's Wife
     Fran Peach .... Young Simon's Mother
     Bob Pekurny .... Ward Patient #2
     Frank Pesce .... Rocco
     Patti Proctor .... Valerie
     Pamela Reed .... Norine Sprockett
     Reynaldo Rey .... Cicerelli
     Tessa Richarde .... Rocco's Wife
     Michael Richards .... Malamud
     Chris Robinson .... Soap Cameo
     Julie Roth .... Glenda
     Saul Rubinek .... Floyd Kurtzman
     Ray Saar .... Party Guest
     Cary Schuman .... Arnold the Orderly
     Walter Scott .... Bed Mechanic
     Kin Shriner .... Soap Cameo
     Harry Dean Stanton .... Dr. Oliver Ludwig
     John Steadman .... 82 Year Old Man
     Lynne Marie Stewart .... Thatcher
     Esther Sutherland .... Willa Mae
     Millee Taggart .... Miss Ditka
     Ogden Talbot .... Man in Wheelchair
     Peggy Trentini .... Christmas Elf
     Janine Turner .... Soap Cameo
     Titos Vandis .... Sal Bonafetti
     Ann Washington .... Annie
     Keith A. Wester .... Hospital Announcer
     Sean Young .... Dr. Stephanie Brody
     Jacklyn Zeman .... Soap Cameo

Written by
     Michael Elias
     Rich Eustis

Cinematography by
     Donald Peterman

Music by
     Maurice Jarre

Production Design by
     Polly Platt

Costume Design by
     Michael Balker
     William Flores

Film Editing by
     Dov Hoenig

Produced by
     Jerry Bruckheimer
     Gary Marshall (executive)

Other crew
     Toni Howard (casting)
     Nancy Klopper (casting)
     Lynn Stalmaster (casting)

19.566FABSIX::K_KAMARYooooooooo Hooooooooo ?Sun Apr 28 1996 11:4420
    RE : Note 19.549
    
    I agree with Ian..... ( I'm sure that will p.o. some folks )...;-)
    
    Bruce ....TECHNICALLY....is a better guitarist. No doubt about it.
    
    BUT, Ace had the " image ".....if ya know what I mean.
    
    Since he was an original member of KISS, he had a LOT to do with their
    image. His guitar playing wasn't very spectacular, but he did o.k.. :-)
    
    It was Ace's " presence " on stage that made him great....NOT his
    guitar playing.
    
    I DO like Ace, tho'.  I like Bruce.  Heck....I like 'em ALL. ;-)
    
    KISS rules....No matter what !!!
    
           *** Kit ***
    
19.567ACISS1::SCHELTERMon Apr 29 1996 11:105
    Wasn't Ace the one who designed their logo?
    
    
    Mike
    
19.568nyuck...nyuck...nyuck...STRATA::LAMOTHEA B B AMon Apr 29 1996 11:322
    
    NO, It was the guy from the Superman comics !
19.569OEM ?ICS::CLELANDCCS Eastern SitesMon Apr 29 1996 11:4419
    	re .544
    
    > I would imagine that Kulick and Singer will be travelling with them.
    > Kulick has been in the band longer than Ace and Peter.
    
    	I'm surprised no one said anything...
    
    	Gene Simmons
    	Ace Frehley
    	Paul Stanley
    	Peter Criss
    
    	are the original members
    
    	Of course, you're showing your age if ya' know the names of the
    	original members without even looking at a piece of vinyl from
    	the 70's.
    
    	So I'll pretend I didn't write this reply...
19.570HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Mon Apr 29 1996 12:065
I read that reply to mean that Ace and Peter were in the band say 9 years and
Bruce Kulick has been in it say, 14.  (I'm assuming Ace/Peter left in 1982 and
the band started in 1973)  I may be wrong about those dates though

Tim
19.571WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlMon Apr 29 1996 15:234
    They've Announced A_Show on July 31 at The Fleet_Center!
    
    
       Crazy_Rocket_Ride_Al
19.572FABSIX::K_KAMARRock n' Roll Ain't Noise PollutionMon Apr 29 1996 17:039
19.573CSLALL::SECURITYMon Apr 29 1996 18:1011
    Shawn-
    
    	Thinking about it, I stick with the notion that "Back in the NY
    groove" was, in fact, a KISS song. The title of the album is "KISS-Ace
    Frehley". If you go to a record store, and look under Frehley, Ace, you
    won't find the album or song. You will, however find it in the KISS
    section, regardless of who played on the album. Wouldn't this qualify
    "Back in the NY groove" as a KISS song?
    
    
    dave
19.574BUSY::SLABOUNTYGTI 16V - dust thy neighbor!!Mon Apr 29 1996 18:2323
    
    	NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
    
    	There was a set of 4 "solo" albums, 1 done by each of the
    	original Kiss members, entitled [I believe] "Kiss solo -
    	[band member's name]".
    
    	I am positive that no other Kiss members played on Ace's
    	solo album, and I'm quite sure that that was the case for
    	the other 3 solo albums as well.
    
    	So that would qualify each of these solo albums as a solo
    	album and ONLY referred to as "Kiss solo" so that laymen
    	would know who these people were that suddenly came out
    	with these new albums.
    
    	NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
    
    
    	[Now go away, or I shall be forced to taunt you a 2nd time.]
    
    	8^)
    
19.575BRAT::JENNISONSalvation Is Real!Mon Apr 29 1996 18:281
    I agree... 8}
19.576PCBUOA::OROURKEWild Izzy gets the Gold!Mon Apr 29 1996 18:307
    
    RE: -1
    
    SueJ...you're such a KISS A**! :^)
    
    /j
    
19.577CSLALL::SECURITYMon Apr 29 1996 18:427
    NO NOT NEVER WRONG!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    If it is in the KISS catalog, why is it not a KISS album, huh, huh,
    what? 
    
    dave
19.578CSLALL::SECURITYMon Apr 29 1996 18:4710
    An interesting aside to all this:
    
    If you have the "Kiss My Ass" album, you'll notice the family has all
    of the faces represented, with the exception of Ace. Also, in the liner
    notes, there are pictures of tattoos with all 4 faces, and Ace's
    picture is always covered by another picture or something. I guess it
    had something to do with not wanting to pay Ace for using his likeness.
    
    
    dave
19.579CSLALL::SECURITYMon Apr 29 1996 18:503
    Also, in some KISS video, Paul talks about how Ace came up with the
    KISS logo, not Superman's creator.
    
19.580yes !!!STRATA::LAMOTHEA B B AMon Apr 29 1996 19:025
    
      I have the 4 albums your talking about GTI.....and after many
    many years of dust....I now have to look at the members....
    
    sax_who_got_beth_to_call_him_once
19.581BUSY::SLABOUNTYGTI 16V - dust thy neighbor!!Mon Apr 29 1996 19:034
    
    	Sax, after you look at the members, look at the faces and see
    	if you can match them together.
    
19.582ok elroySTRATA::LAMOTHEA B B AMon Apr 29 1996 19:074
    
      Yeah, but they have makeup on ?
    
    
19.583BUSY::SLABOUNTYGTI 16V - dust thy neighbor!!Mon Apr 29 1996 19:133
    
    	No.  Well, maybe some lipstick.
    
19.584FABSIX::K_KAMARRock n' Roll Ain't Noise PollutionMon Apr 29 1996 20:538
19.585Tour Dates?POLAR::DASILVATue Apr 30 1996 00:125
    
    Not to change the subject, but does anyone know if and when there are
    going to be any canadian dates for this tour?
    
    Frank..
19.586POLAR::LYLEChairman of the BoredTue Apr 30 1996 01:4215
    
    re: dave
    
    Shawn is correct in the 'solo' KISS stuff dude. In the latter part of
    the 70's, the boyz did their own stuff, without help from the others.
    Ace's solo stuff was the better of the four, although Peter's runs a
    distant 2nd.
    
    The solo stuff is in the KISS section because it's easier to find.
    Pink Floyd is like that in some catalogs. Water's, Gilmore's, and the
    other guys solo stuff is often found in the Floyd section. (not always,
    but sometimes.)
    
    Dave
    
19.587SCAMP::JENNISONSalvation Is Real!Tue Apr 30 1996 11:321
    Jen- Ha Ha... ;)
19.588Sorry Bruce, but... learn a new scaleDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceTue Apr 30 1996 13:3228
>    Bollocks!  ACE ROOLZ!  
>    
>    Bruce Kulick is a pentatonic box-playing idiot imvho
    
    Wow, I have probably never agreed more with Buck in the last 3 years.
    
    I first became aware of Kulick in 1978 or so on the NY/NJ/LI circuit.
    He joined an previously fabulous band called the Good Rats that had
    two highly original guitar players (and Joe Franco who has since
    made quite a name for himself as a session/drummer-for-hire player).
    
    One of them left and Kulick came in and started playing his textbook
    "Led Zep made easy for guitar" pentatonic box licks over this much
    more heady stuff and it made me sick to my stomach.
    
    Years later, not only does the guy join KISS but he has the unmitigated
    audacity to start writing "How to play guitar" columns in guitar
    magazines.   I read some of those columns and man... the ones I read
    were all about how to play what is wildly referred to as "teenage
    garage band guitar licks".
    
    Perhaps those columns are useful to beginning guitarists, but my point
    is that it wasn't apparant to me that Kulick himself had ever advanced
    past that stuff.
    
    He is all that is boring about teenage garage rock.
    
    	db
19.589FABSIX::K_KAMARRock n' Roll Ain't Noise PollutionTue Apr 30 1996 14:025
19.590DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceTue Apr 30 1996 20:1516
    Kit,
    
    My problem with him is that the stuff I have heard from him is almost
    exclusively penatonic rock cliches.
    
    I try to respect other musicians (except Joe Satriani when compared to
    Steve Morse) whenever possible but the Kulick work I have heard is just
    like... ridiculous.  I'd be embarressed to play THAT cliched.
    
    I'd like to think that he's graduated from that and that I just need
    to hear more recent stuff.
    
    It's NO coincidence that Buck and I both get the exact same impression
    of that guy.   
    
    	db
19.591CSLALL::SECURITYTue Apr 30 1996 20:5716
    Everybody after Ace, including that hack Vinnie Vincent, was a manequin
    placed on stage to fill the large gaping hole left by his absence.
    Guitar talk aside, Ace was a presence on stage; the perfect image for a
    band with people painting their faces as cats, demons, and somebody
    that looked like he got hit in the eye with a star-shaped cookie
    cutter. Space Ace and his moon boots could not be replaced, however. I
    felt sad when I read a story in the paper a couple of years ago,
    talking about how he sold his guitars at a garage sale to pay the
    bills. It also was sad to see him playing small venues like the Red
    Square and the Underground. Peter Criss was also doing the club
    circuit. It's too bad, because I always thought of them as the meat and
    potatoes of the band, while Gene and Paul were like a pat of butter and
    serving of over-cooked green beans.
    
    
    dave
19.592FABSIX::K_KAMARRock n' Roll Ain't Noise PollutionTue Apr 30 1996 21:0615
    Well, I DO agree that his style of playing IS rather generic.....
    He sounds like a million other guitarists....TRUE.
    
    BUT......I think his playing is better than Ace's.
    Ace is/was a good guitarist...BUT....his style is very basic & old-
    fashioned. ( IMO )
    
    Bruce added a more " metal "-ish flair to KISS when he joined them.
    
    I respect your opinion, Dave. :-)   
    ( We're all entitled to them ).
    
    I was only trying to joke around with you...( in note 19.589 ).
    
    :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)    *** Kit ***
19.593Bruce K, businessmanICS::CLELANDCCS Eastern SitesFri May 03 1996 10:3540
    	re .588
    
    	:^)  Smiley faces precluded...
    
    	How come we don't see any articles from Dave Blickstein
    	in guitar player magazine?
    
    	You seem incredibly willing to slam musicians who are successful
    	businessmen, yet I don't see Guitar Player chasing you down
    	for your input?
    
    	How come you weren't at the auditions when Kiss was seeking
    	a replacement for Ace?
    
    	I guess we're all professional armchair critics when it comes
    	to rating musicians/bands, but all I saw in your reply was a
    	subjective review of a person/musician.
    
    	Ok, so Bruce K. is no John "The Cat" Gatto, but he was a
    	successful businessman in the music profession. And his demise
    	was quite sad, I thought your reply was cold considering what
    	Bruce went through.
    
    	Mind you, I've never met Dave Blickstein, I would never comment
    	on anyone I've never met in person. I was just entering a friendly
    	response to the reply, no offense intended.
    
    	Aside: Last time I visited Long Island John Gatto was working
    	at a music store in Hauppauge? If I could find the guy, I'd
    	try to get all my Good Rats vinyl autographed. I've got at least
    	seven of their releases on scratchy old vinyl///
    
    	My vinyl collection should be in a museum, the 60's and 70's
    	were a time of wanton lust for music. Spent way too much cash
    	on vinyl, I have the theme to the TV show "Dark Shadows" on
    	the original vinyl release. Not too many scratches either.
    
    	Face - Who doesn't even play his own music, he goes around
    	surviving like a parasite on the legacy of Van Halen from
    	the 1978 - 1984 era. Oh the joys of playing in a tribute band.
19.594DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceFri May 03 1996 11:4835
>    	How come we don't see any articles from Dave Blickstein
>    	in guitar player magazine?
    
    I don't give interviews.
    
>    	How come you weren't at the auditions when Kiss was seeking
>    	a replacement for Ace?
    
    That audition fell on the only day I had to sort my sock drawer.
    
>    	I guess we're all professional armchair critics when it comes
>    	to rating musicians/bands, but all I saw in your reply was a
>    	subjective review of a person/musician.
    
    Glad you took it as it was intended.
    
    However, it is no more "subjective" to say that the guy sticks to basic
    penatonic box figures than it is to say "the first chord of Stairway to
    Heaven is A minor".
    
    > And his demise was quite sad, I thought your reply was cold considering
    > what Bruce went through.
    
    I have no idea what you're talking about.
    
    If the guy died or something, then I apologize for remarks that while
    being entitled to make, were unknowingly ill-timed.
    
>    	Mind you, I've never met Dave Blickstein, I would never comment
>    	on anyone I've never met in person. I was just entering a friendly
>    	response to the reply, no offense intended.
    
    No offense taken.   You needn't walk on eggshells around me.
    
    	db
19.595BUSY::SLABOUNTYBasket CaseFri May 03 1996 12:526
    
    	Dave's tough ... he can take at least a little abuse.  8^)
    
    	And as far as I know, Bruce Kulick is still alive and well
    	[relatively speaking].
    
19.596;-)DREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceFri May 03 1996 13:1910
    > Dave's tough...
    
    I dare you to knock this 9 volt battery off my shoulder.  ;-)
    
    > And as far as I know, Bruce Kulick is still alive and well
    
    Then (in my Emily Latilla voice) what's all this talk about "his
    demise" and "what he went thru".
    
    	db
19.597BUSY::SLABOUNTYBasket CaseFri May 03 1996 13:203
    
    	He might've been referring to Eric Carr, but I'm not sure.
    
19.598POWDML::BUCKLEYFri May 03 1996 14:072
    
    How about...
19.599POWDML::BUCKLEYFri May 03 1996 14:082
    
    ...some really killer...
19.601DAGWUD::FLATTERYFri May 03 1996 14:151
    ...buck must be bored.....;")))......./k
19.600POWDML::BUCKLEYFri May 03 1996 14:2379
    
    			K 	I	S	S
    
    			  Killer Koncert Info!
    
    				   ~
    
    			 everything you need to
    
    
    		Rock and Roll All Nite, And Party Every Day!
    
                                   ~
    
    TICKET PRICES:
    =============
    
    $85.00 -- Gold Circle seats (main floor)
    $50.00 -- Diamond seats (lower bleechers)
    $35.00 -- Second-tier bleechers
    $27.50 -- Upper-level seating
    
    
    THE REUNION TOUR 1996
    =====================
    
    First Leg Tour Dates:
    
    28 June	Tiger Stadium; Detroit, MI
    
    30 June	Freedom Hall; Louisville, KY
    
    02 July	Keil Center; St. Louis, MO
    
    03 July	Kemper Arena; Kansas City, MO
    
    05 July	Reunion Arena; Dallas, TX
    
    06 July	The Summit; Houston, TX
    
    07 July	Freeman Coliseum; San Antonio, TX
    
    09 July	Kiefer-UNO Lakefront Arena; New Orleans, LA
    
    10 July	The Pyramid; Memphis, TN
    
    12 July	Rosemont Horizon; Rosemont, IL
    
    13 July	St. Paul Civic Center; St. Paul, MN
    
    14 July	Mark of the Quad Cities; Moline, IL
    
    16 July	Market Square Arena; Indianapolis, IN
    
    17 July	Nutter Center; Dayton, OH
    
    19 July     Gund Arena; Cleveland; OH
    
    20 July	Civic Arena; Pittsburgh, PA
    
    21 July	Buffalo Memorial Auditorium; Buffalo, NY
    
    23 July	USAir Arena; Landover, MD
    
    25 July	Madison Square Garden; New York City, NY
    26 July
    
    27 July	The Spectrum; Philadelphia, PA
    
    28 July	Hartford Civic Center; Hartford, CT
    
    30 July	Providence Civic Center; Providence, RI
    
    31 July	Fleet Center; Boston, MA
    
    
    NOTE:  If you WANT TICKETS, make good plans.  The Detroit show,
    which went on sale April 20th, sold out 50,000 tickets in just
    **47 Minutes**!!!  Read n heed folks...
19.602SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri May 03 1996 15:246
    
    so...who all fancies going to the Fleet centre to see KISS?
    
    
    
    						Ian
19.603BUSY::SLABOUNTYBuzzword BingoFri May 03 1996 15:483
    
    	I'd prefer Providence, actually.
    
19.604DAGWUD::FLATTERYFri May 03 1996 16:081
    ..then by all means go there...and go often.......;')....../k
19.605BUSY::SLABOUNTYBuzzword BingoFri May 03 1996 16:223
    
    	[smooch!]
    
19.606BRAT::JENNISONSalvation Is Real!Fri May 03 1996 16:541
    oHHH LaaLaa ;)
19.607SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri May 03 1996 17:196
    
    
    the band's called Kiss not smooch! 8)_
    
    
    						Ian
19.609CSLALL::SECURITYFri May 03 1996 18:195
    I heard(if this is false I don't want to be ridiculed!!!)that Gene
    wanted to call the band "f**K", but they settled for KISS. Just
    something I heard a few years ago and never forgot.
    
    dave
19.610POLAR::RICHARDSONoooo mama, hooe mama...Fri May 03 1996 18:201
    FORK is a dumb name.
19.611HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Fri May 03 1996 18:312
Excuse me, can I see your ticket?

19.612Wicked LesterICS::CLELANDCCS Eastern SitesFri May 03 1996 19:2314
    	Actually the original name before KISS was Wicked Lester.
    
    	And I completely screwed up and associated Bruce Kulick
    	with Mark St. John who suffered from a disease that attacked
    	the nervous system.
    
    	There was a band here in the Northeast that used the name
    	Wicked Lester (I washed dishes for 'em for two years).
    
    	They disbanded, and reformed as Twisted Fate (which died a
    	slow death).
    
    	The original guitar player has a band called Cement Shoes,
    	they've become fairly popular in the Boston area...
19.613CSLALL::SECURITYFri May 03 1996 19:363
    But when the 4 yoots, Stanley, Simmons, Criss and Frehley decided to
    take their act to the stage, they were debating on a name, and Gene
    wanted to call it that.
19.614FABSIX::K_KAMARRock n' Roll Ain't Noise PollutionSun May 05 1996 13:374
19.615POLAR::LYLEI'm not that. I am IMon May 06 1996 04:275
    
    re: .613
    
    Ah... what's a 'yoot'? =)
    
19.616brought to you by my long lost Cousin....POLAR::RENAUDPwaitin' for the LOAD to come inMon May 06 1996 04:5612
    A yoot.......you know  A YOOT.
    
    A young person....
    
    a teenager...
    
    a YOOT!
    
    Sorry your honor.....a youTH!
    
    Vinny Gambino
    
19.617POLAR::LYLEI'm not that. I am IMon May 06 1996 05:333
    
    Well........ DUH!!!
    
19.618URLICS::CLELANDCCS Eastern SitesMon May 06 1996 14:457
    	re .614
    
    	For the Boston show...
    
    	http://www.fleetcenter.com/subgeneral.html
    
    	The phone #'s in there.
19.619FABSIX::K_KAMARRock n' Roll Ain't Noise PollutionMon May 06 1996 15:015
    I'm sorry...but, I don't have access to the WWW or Internet.
    
    Thanks for the info anyway.   :-)
    
                                        *** Kit ***
19.620BSS::SMITH_STue May 07 1996 01:072
    I liked that movie too
    -ss
19.621No web access!!!!!! AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHUNTADB::CLARKELike a Spider to a FlyTue May 07 1996 05:368
Kit,

 are you telling me that you are still using a VT??

 If you have a workstation you should be able to fire up mosiac and then surf to
your hearts content.

 Nic
19.622not even a spider web hereFABSIX::S_MCREYNOLDSTue May 07 1996 09:4110
    
    
    
    
    we used to have access but they took that away from us.
    
    i enjoyed it while it lasted
    
    /Scott
    
19.623FABSIX::K_KAMARRock n' Roll Ain't Noise PollutionTue May 07 1996 09:576
19.624it's out thereFABSIX::S_MCREYNOLDSWed May 08 1996 08:0215
    
    
    
      Kit,
    
    
       you can get it if you talk to the right people
    
    
    
    
    
    
        as i found out tonight.
    
19.625Fleetcenter infoICS::CLELANDCCS Eastern SitesWed May 08 1996 10:115
    	Kit...
    
    	14.119
    
    	Just for you...
19.626FABSIX::K_KAMARRock n' Roll Ain't Noise PollutionWed May 08 1996 10:165
    Thanks....::CLELAND. :-)
    
    I shall contact them immediately. :-)  I'm sooooooooo psyched !!!!
    
                   *** Kit ***
19.627ticket's??LUDWIG::CARROLLWed May 15 1996 15:464
    
    
    has anyone heard when tickets go on sale yet.......????????
    
19.628FABSIX::K_KAMARStimpy,You Bloated Sack Of ProtoplasmMon May 20 1996 17:5211
19.629you can't win if you don't play!POOKY::OROURKEWild Izzy gets the Gold!Mon May 20 1996 17:539
    
    Kit-
    
    The DEAL as you call it was on last night.  Kiss was hosting the FOX
    lineup last night.  They had a contest where you called in and could
    win fabu Kiss prizes including front row seats!   Guess you didn't win
    now did ya?
    
    /jen
19.630FABSIX::K_KAMARStimpy,You Bloated Sack Of ProtoplasmMon May 20 1996 18:147
19.631They might still be there....sha, and monkeys might...POLAR::RENAUDPWOW! I can hear my brain!Mon May 20 1996 18:374
    I recorded it......I could lend it to you and then you could call! 8)
    
    Paully
    
19.632FABSIX::K_KAMARHot In The ShadeMon May 20 1996 18:517
19.633FABSIX::K_KAMARHot In The ShadeTue May 28 1996 12:597
19.634Looking forward to some Rock&Roll.OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOFri Jun 07 1996 13:428
    It has been 17 YEARS since KISS has played in Ottawa and they are
    coming August 5th. Tickets went on sale today and it took me 35
    minutes to get through on the phone to Ticket Master. General, the 1st
    level and 90% of the second were already sold out. WOW. Looking forward
    to seeing them for my first time..., anyways I just wanted to share
    my excitement.
    
    Stephen
19.635AND PARTYIN' ALL NIGHT LONG...KDCA01::CDCUP_TORRENGotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burnFri Jun 07 1996 14:215
    
    	I got my tickets, yesterday...Connections are wonderful...
    
    Bobby T - Who's glad he didn't have to battle for tickets, and who
    is also seein' Kiss for the first time...
19.636BRAT::JENNISONInject YourSelf With LibertyFri Jun 07 1996 15:331
    when do kizz tickets go on sale here=!???????????????????????
19.637Deuce.OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOMon Jun 10 1996 11:2612
    Bobby T aka. Boborado
    
    Where are you sitting ? As I said it took me 35 minutes to get through
    on the phone and the best I could do was section 205, 4 rows up (E),
    and according to Ticket Master I will be at the opposite end of the
    stage. It sounds like the stage it being set up in the South end of the
    rink.
    
    
    Me and 3 friends .............................................band.
    
    Stephen
19.638BRAT::JENNISONInject YourSelf With LibertyMon Jun 10 1996 11:275
    I heard that ticks for this area go on sale Saturday!!???
    
    Anyone ? Anyone ?
    
    SueJ
19.639FABSIX::K_KAMARScorpioMon Jun 10 1996 12:213
    Sue, which area are ya talking about ???? Boston ????
    
    *** Kit ***
19.640BRAT::JENNISONInject YourSelf With LibertyMon Jun 10 1996 12:501
    Yes boston I believe!!
19.641Mom got really mad trying to get the black makeup off!POLAR::RENAUDPjust me and my old buddy WEISER...Tue Jun 11 1996 01:2410
    With all this talk these days of the reunion and tour I was remembering
    back when I was a wee one, in summer camp we did an air band for the
    talent show, and we did KISS.  Complete with make-up and the whole
    shabang.  Mind you they wouldn't let us light the stage on fire! 8)
    The weird part about all this is that I was 6 or 7 at the time.  I
    guess metal was just inbred in me as a child and was awakened at 13 by
    the Crue Shouting at the Devil!
    
    Paully 8)
    
19.642FABSIX::K_KAMARLiving In The LimelightTue Jun 11 1996 10:278
19.643BRAT::JENNISONInject YourSelf With LibertyTue Jun 11 1996 11:0512
    Saw "Cold Gin" A Kizz Tribute Band over the weekend... I really 
    like these guys--- was disappointed though that Dan (Paul Stanley),
    had someone stand in for him because he had a cold! Yea right he 
    just wanted to party!!! He didnt sound like he had a cold...ah I 
    gave him hell anyway!
    
    Good show though...
    
    The Fire Show with Gene is the best!!!! Its amazing that RED SQUARE
    even let them do the Pyrotechnics that they do.. But I love it !!!!
    
    SueJ
19.644FABSIX::K_KAMARFlamethrowerTue Jun 11 1996 13:289
    Do " Cold Gin " really sound like KISS...vocals and all ???
    
    I've seen pix of them in METAL EDGE magazine, and the only one who
    kinda looks like a member of KISS is the guy named Spiro who looks like
    Gene.
    
    I know that there are a couple of KISS Tribute bands out there...a
    friend of mine who lives in Virginia saw one & said they were pretty
    good.  I dunno if it was " Cold Gin " tho'.
19.645Latest Tour Info...BINKLY::GWILLIAMSTue Jun 11 1996 13:5996
    KISS - ALIVE WORLDWIDE '96 TOUR
    
       Call 212-333-8307, the Mercury Records Tour Hotline for more info.
    
    
    Updated: 6/4/96
    Note: T=Tentative Date
    
    DATE         CITY                VENUE              ON SALE
    ----    ---------------    -----------------        --------
    6/15    Los Angeles, CA    KROQ Fest                SOLD OUT
    6/28    Detroit, MI        Tiger Stadium            SOLD OUT
    6/30    Louisville, KY     Freedom Hall             SOLD OUT
    7/2     St. Louis, MO      The Kiel Center          SOLD OUT
    7/3     Kansas City, MO    Kemper Arena             SOLD OUT
    7/5     Dallas, TX         Reunion Arena            SOLD OUT
    7/6     Houston, TX        Houston Summit           SOLD OUT
    7/7     San Antonio, TX    Alamo Dome               SOLD OUT
    7/9     New Orleans, LA    Louisiana Superdome      NOW
    7/10    Memphis, TN        The Pyramid              SOLD OUT
    7/12    Moline, IL         Mark of the Quad Cities  SOLD OUT
    7/13    St. Paul, MN       St. Paul Civic Center    SOLD OUT
    7/14    Chicago, IL        Rosemont Horizon         SOLD OUT
    7/16    Chicago, IL        Rosemont Horizon         SOLD OUT
    7/17    Dayton, OH         Ervin J. Nutter Center   SOLD OUT
    7/19    Cleveland, OH      Gund Arena               SOLD OUT
    7/20    Cleveland, OH      Gund Arena               SOLD OUT
    7/21    Pittsburgh, PA     Civic Arena              NOW
    7/25    New York, NY       Madison Square Garden    SOLD OUT
    7/26    New York, NY       Madison Square Garden    SOLD OUT
    7/27    New York, NY       Madison Square Garden    SOLD OUT
    7/28    New York, NY       Madison Square Garden    SOLD OUT
    7/30    Boston, MA         Fleet Center             6/15
    7/31    TBA                TBA                      n/a
    8/2-T   Quebec, CAN        Forum                    n/a
    8/3     Montreal, CAN      The Molson Centre        NOW
    8/5     Ottowa, CAN        Palladium                NOW
    8/6     Toronto, CAN       Sky Dome                 NOW
    8/8-T   Cincinnati, OH     Riverfront               NOW
    8/9     Indianapolis, IN   Market Square Arena      SOLD OUT
    8/10-T  Indianapolis, IN   Market Square Arena      n/a
    8/17    Donnington         ENG                      NOW
    8/21-T  Phoenix, AZ        America West             n/a
    8/23-T  Los Angeles, CA    Great Western Forum      n/a
    8/24-T  Los Angeles, CA    Great Western Forum      n/a
    8/25-T  Los Angeles, CA    Great Western Forum      n/a
    8/26-T  TBA                TBA                      n/a
    8/27-T  San Jose, CA       San Jose Arena           n/a
    8/28-T  Sacramento, CA     Arco Arena               n/a
    8/30-T  Portland, OR       Rose Garden              n/a
    8/31-T  Tacoma, WA         Tacoma Dome              n/a
    9/1-T   Spokane, WA        Spokane Coliseum         n/a
    9/2-T   Vancouver, CAN     GM Place                 n/a
    9/4-T   Boise, ID          BSU Arena                n/a
    9/5-T   Salt Lake City, UT Delta Center             n/a
    9/7-T   Denver, CO         McNichols                n/a
    9/8-T   Denver, CO         McNichols                n/a
    9/9-T   Nebraska           TBA                      n/a
    9/10-T  Wichita, KS        Kansas Coliseum          n/a
    9/11-T  Oklahoma City, OK  Myraid                   n/a
    9/13-T  Tennessee          TBA                      n/a
    9/14-T  Birmingham, AL     Jefferson Civic Col.     n/a
    9/15-T  Pensacola, FL      Civic Center             n/a
    9/17-T  Miami, FL          Miami Arena              n/a
    9/18-T  Miami, FL          Miami Arena              n/a
    9/20-T  St Petersburg, FL  Thunderdome              n/a
    9/22-T  Orlando, FL        Orlando Arena            n/a
    9/24-T  TBA                TBA                      n/a
    9/25-T  Columbia, SC       Carolina Coliseum        n/a
    9/27-T  Charlotte, NC      Charlotte Coliseum       n/a
    9/28-T  Greensboro, NC     Greensboro Coliseum      n/a
    9/29-T  Knoxville, TN      Thompson Bolling Arena   n/a
    10/1-T  Atlanta, GA        The Omni                 n/a
    10/2-T  Atlanta, GA        The Omni                 n/a
    10/4-T  Roanoke, VA        Civic Center             n/a
    10/5-T  Hampton, VA        Hampton Coliseum         n/a
    10/6-T  Washington, DC     US Air Arena             n/a
    10/7-T  Washington, DC     US Air Arena             n/a
    10/8-T  Philadelphia, PA   Corestate Center         n/a
    10/9-T  Philadelphia, PA   Corestate Center         n/a
    10/11-T Philadelphia, PA   Corestate Center         n/a
    10/12-T Albany, NY         Knickerbocker Arena      n/a
    10/13-T Buffalo, NY        Buffalo Memorial Aud     n/a
    10/15-T Charleston, SC     Charleston Coliseum      n/a
    10/16-T Lexington, KY      Rupp Arena               n/a
    
    Nov-Dec 96-T Europe TBA n/a
    Jan 97-T Japan and Southeast Asia TBA n/a
    Feb 97-T Australia TBA n/a
    Feb 15-T Auckland, NZ TBA n/a
    Mar 97-T South America TBA n/a
    June 97-T Europe
    
    (additional dates to be added)
    
    --- All dates subject to change
19.646Deuce/Deuce.OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOTue Jun 11 1996 17:227
    .645
    
    Four in a row at MSG anybody who was able to scoop tickets for all
    4 shows must be Flying right now, and alittle broke.
    
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.647Boston wristbands todayICS::CLELANDCCS Eastern SitesWed Jun 12 1996 10:338
    	WAAF had the commercial this morning, announcing the Boston
    	show...
    
    	Tickets go on sale this saturday, June 15th, but wristbands
    	are being given out TODAY.
    
    	If you know of anyone in the city, ask them to stop by the
    	fleetcenter for you...
19.648KIZZBRAT::JENNISONInject YourSelf With LibertyWed Jun 12 1996 11:067
    
           Tickets are going on sale Saturday at 9 am for Kiss at the
           FleetCenter on July 30 (with rumors of a July 31 show as well).
           Wristbands are being given out *today* at the FleetCenter and
           Ticketmaster outlets -- I don't know what time the wristbands
           are being given out; call your local outlet to find out.
    
19.649I'm SO humiliatedICS::CLELANDCCS Eastern SitesWed Jun 12 1996 11:118
    	Geez, I thought I just said that...
    
    	Guess MY text isn't as good as YOUR text...
    
    	WELL, I've NEVER been so insulted, I must start fanning myself,
    	I'm feeling faint...
    
    	Face (Sniff, wahhh)
19.650BRAT::JENNISONInject YourSelf With LibertyWed Jun 12 1996 11:221
    Thats Nice.....
19.651SqueekyICS::CLELANDCCS Eastern SitesWed Jun 12 1996 11:351
    	You cheeky monkey you...
19.652BRAT::JENNISONInject YourSelf With LibertyWed Jun 12 1996 12:081
    8p
19.653WAAF contestICS::CLELANDCCS Eastern SitesThu Jun 13 1996 10:128
    	Here's another fer ya ... Listening to WAAF this morning...

    	If you're completely available (no pun intended) between
    	6 - 10 am tomorrow morning, WAAF is giving away 4 tickets
    	and transportation to see KISS open their tour this summer
    	(see reply .645 for tour dates).
    
    	Face
19.654TIX??BIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsFri Jun 14 1996 15:096
    So who is gonna try to get tix tomorrow for the Fleet Center?
    Did anyone get wrist bands? What are the chances of getting
    through on the phone lines?? 
    
    Andy
    
19.655HOOPLE::FENNELLYuri! quit smooshing packagesFri Jun 14 1996 16:308
I'm going to try.  I expect it will be pointless but I'm not going to deal with
waiting in line for this

I think just being there should be good.  I'm not that concerned about getting
up close.

Tim

19.656Order some DOMINO's first.OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOFri Jun 14 1996 16:578
    
    I think your better off trying by phone. You could go wait in line for
    up to several hours prior to the doors opening and try and get good
    seats or sit in the comfort of your own home with the redial working
    OT. It took me 35 minutes to get through to Ticket Master and was
    able to get tickets on the 2nd level of a 3 level arena.
    
    Smile'in Jack              
19.657Tix anyone?BIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsSat Jun 15 1996 13:2111
Well that was fun...I was calling for two hours trying to get
tix.....even using two phone lines at once...couldn't get through.
The first show sold out in 15minutes...but they added another one
for July 31st....as far as I know at this time tix are still
available for the 2nd show...I gave up trying as I found out a
friend nabbed 4 tickets after calling 1 3/4 hours....but thats cool
as he has one for me!!!

Anyone else have any luck?

Andy
19.658get yours?STRATA::CARROLLSat Jun 15 1996 14:417
    
    
    Well, after 2 1/2 hrs i finally got through, 2 tickets for july 31.
    upper lodge sec. 105 row 8aa ........ 
    
    
    bill
19.659BIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsSat Jun 15 1996 15:4810
RE:    
    
>    Well, after 2 1/2 hrs i finally got through, 2 tickets for july 31.
>    upper lodge sec. 105 row 8aa ........ 
    
    upper lodge??? Damn, we ended up in nosebleed land with section 310
    and it sounds like my friend got through before you did....Ah well
    cant complain too much I guess!!
    
    August 1st could be a ROUGH day!!!!
19.660FABSIX::K_KAMARFlamethrowerSun Jun 16 1996 13:2812
19.661we're there, Dude.....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Mon Jun 17 1996 10:4119
    ....YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
    
    'scuse me, little X-cited there...got mine!~!~!~!
    Section 129, the "club seats" as the ticket-shafter said, straight
    back, opposite the stage, for the 31st!!!
    
    Ain't even gonn tell ya what i laid-out fer these tickets, but
    at least we'll be a'going!  Got these from Lyttle tickets in
    Chelmsford, in case there's anyone who ain't got tix yet....
    despite the $$$, i like working w/ Lyttle, as you'll ALWAYS
    get to choose yer seats, etc ...
    
    Great quote by Gene Simmons, "I promise you that you will see grown
    men cry!"....
    
    mac_who_seeing_KISS_fer)the_9th_time
    (8th_in makeup, etc.)
    
    
19.662FABSIX::K_KAMARHe's A Lumberjack &amp; He's O.K.Mon Jun 17 1996 11:103
19.663WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Mon Jun 17 1996 11:238
    
 >                 Damn, we ended up in nosebleed land with section 310
 >  and it sounds like my friend got through before you did....
    
    That's the "added value" of ticket services - letting the computers
    decide what seats are "best available."  
    
    - Sean
19.664PCBUOA::WHITMANJMon Jun 17 1996 11:589
    
    
    
    A friend of mine got 2 tickets for somewhere in the 1st 20 rows..
    $200 a piece... 
    
    ouch!
    
    Whit-
19.665The Hottest Band in the LandBRAT::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Mon Jun 17 1996 15:1815
    
    I had a wristband for Ticketmaster in Attleboro, MA.  The lady there
    announced $50.00 seats for the first show were gone in 3 minutes!!!
    I was toward the front of the line (Thank God!!) and got 8 tickets
    for the first show, first row balcony section 329, just off to the
    left of the stage, they should be awesome seats.  Also grabbed 8
    tix for the second show in section 115, also should be decent.
    
    This show is gonna be classic!!  First time seeing the "Real" KISS,
    after catching a few shows with the other two clowns.  A friend of 
    mine MIGHT have some extra's if anyone is interested, I'll post
    a new reply later after I hear from him for sure.
    
    
    SPACE-ACE-CF
19.666DELNI::MURPHYTue Jun 18 1996 20:0014
    I was at the local Ticketmaster here in Acton MA (Minor Chord for you
    locals) and there were probably about 100 people who had wristbands
    (many of whom, strangely enough, were under 16). I think I was about
    35th in line and got my tickets at around 9:15. At that point, they
    hadn't announced the second show and I have been tricked into falling
    for the "second show" bit too many times so instead of waiting, I bought. 
    I ended up somewhere in the 300's but I'd rather be up there than
    hearing about it from the notes conference...
    
    I think this particular Ticketmaster was on the verge of a riot when a
    lot of the people who were towards the front of the line realized that they
    had paid $50/ticket but received $35 tickets. They got their money
    back, but of course they could not return the tickets...especially since
    there were no more $50 tickets to sell!!. 
19.667who hates scalpers!AKOMI1::OROURKEBreakfast in BransonWed Jun 19 1996 00:126
    
    Don't be surprised by the number of 'kids' lined up at the Acton
    TM.  There's one particular slime scalper who brags about how he lines
    up about 8 kids there for every major show
    
    /jen
19.668CADSYS::FENNELLYuri! quit smooshing packagesWed Jun 19 1996 10:314
Hey kid, wait in line for 4 hours and I'll get you all the beer and cigarettes
you can handle...

Cheap labor
19.669slime!POOKY::OROURKEBreakfast in BransonWed Jun 19 1996 14:126
    
    Even worse, Tim, what I've 'heard' is wait in line for 4 hours,
    purchase 8 tickets with the $ I give you, give me six, and keep 2 for
    your trouble.
    
    /jen
19.670THATS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL, IMO.KDCA01::CDCUP_TORRENGotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burnWed Jun 19 1996 14:207
    
    	Actually that doesn't sound too bad. I mean if the kids got
    nothing to do, they can get 2 free tickets to some pretty good
    concerts. And if they don't like the band/bands preforming they
    can scalp their tickets for even more cash...
    
    	Bobby T
19.671DELNI::MURPHYWed Jun 19 1996 18:3012
    I think the real issue is that this defeats the whole purpose of the
    "wristbands". It's my understanding that TM uses them to stop scalpers
    from getting in line 24 hrs in advance and scooping up all the good
    tickets. But by having a dozen kids get wristbands, a scalper increases
    his/her chances of getting those good seats, and paying off a high
    schooler with a ticket to see KISS is peanuts compared to what they'll
    get outside the show.
    
    I guess I was too naive to realize why all those kids were there. Hey,
    I was only 12 the first time I saw KISS and I figured "well, maybe
    they're trying to catch a piece of history."
    
19.672BRAT::JENNISONThats The Sound Of Yur Brain CrackingWed Jun 19 1996 18:341
    That be KISStory... ;)
19.673DELNI::MURPHYWed Jun 19 1996 18:563
    I didn't have the guts to say it...
    
    I'm glad someone else did... =)
19.674Are they gonna be able to light up at the Fleet Center?BIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsWed Jun 19 1996 19:1811
              

   THE FIRE AND BRIMSTONE KISS REUNION TOUR NEWSFLASH:
   Well, KISS is back after 17 years, and not only are they wearing full makeup,
   but they are back to setting fire to their stages. The group's first full 
   makeup concert at Irvine Meadows Amphitheater, almost ended in disaster when
   part of the stage canopy caught on fire. Security staff moved quickly to 
   extinguish the flames, which began when a cache of fireworks under the 
   canopy briefly ignited. Ahhh, some things never change.

19.675boston garden...STRATA::CARROLLThu Jun 20 1996 09:065
    
    HMMMM, BOSTON GARDEN, 1977, 78. pretty scary for 15 year old in the
    front row of wall of fire.
    
    bill 
19.676D GenerationDELNI::MURPHYThu Jun 20 1996 11:042
    I heard on WAAF this morning that D Generation will be the opening act
    at the two Fleetcenter shows.
19.677ABACUS::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Thu Jun 20 1996 11:328
    
    I heard th Nixons were opening???  
    
    
    KISS doesn't need/shouldn't have an opening act.
    
    
    CF
19.678BRAT::JENNISONThats The Sound Of Yur Brain CrackingThu Jun 20 1996 12:098
    
    I heard it was Alice In Chains!!!
    
    And how could that have happended when the tour starts on  June 28th
    or there abouts....
    
    SueJ
    
19.679They'll be changing the name to "GUMS" pretty soon!POLAR::TYSICKHe who hesitates...masterbatesThu Jun 20 1996 12:283
    RE: .674
    
    Fire...they better be carefull...isn't BenGay flammable?
19.680POOKY::OROURKEBreakfast in BransonThu Jun 20 1996 12:384
    
    gee, and I heard Elvis is the opening act! :^)
    
    /jen
19.681ABACUS::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Thu Jun 20 1996 12:3811
    
    Re: .678
    
    Alice in Chains is opening some shows, but not until the second leg
    of the tour.  The show on the 15th was part of a festival hosted
    by a radio station in Los Angeles, I don't think they played a full
    set, but enough to blow up some of the stage and cause a few minor
    fires.  June 28th is the "official" beginning of the tour in Detroit
    Rock City.
    
    CF
19.682BRAT::JENNISONThats The Sound Of Yur Brain CrackingThu Jun 20 1996 12:481
    Well thank you Chris, for that info! 
19.683Nixons, Are you Kidding Me!~!~!ABACUS::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Thu Jun 20 1996 13:3014
    
    No problem  :-)
    
    I wish it was A.I.C., that'd be well worth going in for.  
    With the nixons opening, it'll keep me in a local watering
    hole for an extra hour.  I suppose it's a good trade-off,
    the opening act sucks, but at least I can "prime" for an 
    extra hour or so before going in.
    
    I would've rather seen alice in Chains though, i like them.
    
    
    CF
    
19.684open another one, willya!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Thu Jun 20 1996 14:3411
    ...I remembah seeing Bob Seger & the Silver Bullet Band
    opening for KISS, 1976, Cape Cod Colliseum...talk about
    yer opposites attracting!  
    
    Altho 'twas a good set by Seger.....other than him, most of
    the bands who opened for KISS in the '70's were verrrry forgetable...
    
    for what it's worth....
    
    macky
    macky
19.685'87 Tour?????ABACUS::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Thu Jun 20 1996 14:5713
    
    I saw Ted nugent open for Kiss in the mid-80's at some point.
    Nugent was OK, but he played for almost two hours, it was big-time
    overkill.  That same night, at the Centrum, Kiss played "Turn on
    the Night" 4 times because they were filming the video.  
    
    Stanley - "Alright, we're gonna do Turn on the Night one more time"
    
    He only said that three times.  The giant sphynx singing "God of
    Thunder really made the show!!!
    
    
    CF
19.686OpenersBIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsThu Jun 20 1996 15:545
    I heard late this morning on the radio that Nixsons will open one night
    at the Fleet Center shows and D Generation will open the other. Didnt say 
    who gets which night....who the heck is D Generation?????
    
    Andy
19.687OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOThu Jun 20 1996 16:0610
    
    I haven't heard of the D Generates either. Can someone name their
    most popular song on the radio if they have a current one.
    
    Off topic abit. Has anyone else seen HEAT, the movie, with Pacino and
    D'Niro. I watched it last night, video, I have to say it's the best
    movie I've ever seen IMO. Scareface was my fav until Heat.
    
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.688ABACUS::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Thu Jun 20 1996 18:518
    
    Never heard of D Generates either
    
    
    
    Scarface was better  :-)
    
    CF
19.689D Generation on the webDELNI::MURPHYThu Jun 20 1996 18:5213
    Check out http://www.nytrash.com/dgeneration.html
    
    It's got a little history of the band as well as listing their summer
    tour dates (most of which are with KISS). Apparently they'll be in
    Providence on 30 July (which I guess would be why the Nixons will be
    opening). 
    
    I believe their most "popular" song is "No Way Out" but it doesn't get
    too much airplay (at least, as far as I can tell, here in the Boston
    area).
    
    BTW, I saw "Heat" on an airplane about a month ago. I thought it was
    good but a little predictable...
19.690video overkillSTRATA::CARROLLThu Jun 20 1996 19:017
    RE.685
    
    I  saw that show with ted, that was an awesome show. 
    first time i met ted. also met gene that night.
    the filming of the video was a pain in the --s. 
    
    bill
19.691BRAT::JENNISONThats The Sound Of Yur Brain CrackingFri Jun 21 1996 10:451
    I Love my KIZZ wallpaper!
19.692You've got to Live Like yer on Vacation.WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlFri Jun 21 1996 12:087
    Oh No... What Did ya Get??
    
     I Remember I Used to have that Hugh_Poster that had Four Seperate 
    Pictures of Each Band Member on it.
    
    
        Crazy_A_Grown_Man_Who_Could_Cry_Al
19.693BRAT::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Fri Jun 21 1996 12:402
    
    The cover of the "Dynasty" album????
19.694WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlFri Jun 21 1996 21:268
19.695LUDWIG::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Sat Jun 22 1996 00:346
    
    Hey_Al..is that the one with Ace singing "2000 Man"?
    
    Got my tix,
    Kev --
    
19.696Get Ready to see KissTory,Man!WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlSun Jun 23 1996 12:414
    Kev--
     I'm Tawkin about A Poster I Used to Have.Not em Album.
    
      Crazy_Glad_You_Got_Tix_Al
19.698BRAT::JENNISONThats The Sound Of Yur Brain CrackingMon Jun 24 1996 11:281
    Got MINE!
19.699OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOTue Jun 25 1996 17:009
    
    Off topic.
    
    Heard on the radio last night that the new Hard Rock cafe in Ottawa,
    has a concert ticket stub of, Hendrix as the back up to the Monkees.
    Yikes.
    
    Smile'in Jack
    
19.700BUSY::SLABOUNTYGot into a war with reality ...Tue Jun 25 1996 17:136
    
    	The new KISS album is out ... from reading the teaser on the
    	Newbury Comics WWW page, it appears to contain live tracks
    	from the last 20 years or so.  A few were unreleased until
    	now.
    
19.701FABSIX::K_KAMARAdunya Zaya ZiftTue Jun 25 1996 17:463
19.702wwwICS::CLELANDTue Jun 25 1996 18:135
    	Kit,
    
    	newbury.com   or   http://www.newbury.com
    
    	"Shop here, Die happy"
19.703FABSIX::K_KAMARI Love It LoudTue Jun 25 1996 18:222
    I don't have access to the web...here at work.
    I also don't have a computer at home. :-(
19.704BUSY::SLABOUNTYGrandchildren of the DamnedTue Jun 25 1996 18:355
    
    	I'm led to believe that it's all live, yes.
    
    	It doesn't quite say that specifically, though.
    
19.705Electric Ladyland!!SCAMP::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Tue Jun 25 1996 19:1819
    
    Re: .699 Hendrix and the Monkees
    
    
    Jimi did open for them on a few shows back before Monterey.  
    It seems that the Monkees fans were not particularly fond of the
    Greatest Guitarist Ever........
    
    
    .....as a matter of fact, one of my friends mom's went to that show
    and said she HATED IT because Jimi was too loud and obnoxious. 
    Simulating sex with the speakers did not impress her and the loud
    screeching feedback "made me want to puke" (Her words, not mine)!
    
    Some people just don't get it............
    
    
    
    CF
19.706Whereya'at?ICS::CLELANDTue Jun 25 1996 19:184
    	Kit, what's yer site code? Anyone around you gots a pc? Hopefully
    	with netscape loaded?
    
    	Kiss MUST have a web site, especially with this upcoming tour...
19.707FABSIX::K_KAMARI Love It LoudTue Jun 25 1996 19:244
19.708Kit--- Listen up here!POLAR::RENAUDPDiscover Wildlife...HAVE KIDS!Tue Jun 25 1996 20:268
    KISS Collectors take note:
    
    Spin Magazine will release 4 different covers for the July 16 issue of
    the magazine, each depicting one of the members.  The same sort of
    publicity stunt the members themselves pulled with the solo albums!
    
    Paully 8)
    
19.709New Album (All Live!)BRAT::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Wed Jun 26 1996 10:3629
    
    
    You Want the Best You Got It
    
    
            Room Service
            Two-Timer
            Let Me Know
            Rock Bottom     Niiiiiccccceeeee!!!!!
            Parasite        Niiiiiicccceeeeeeerrrrrrrr!!!!!
            Firehouse       (From Alive I)
            I Stole Your Love
            Calling Dr. Love
            Take Me
            Shout It Out Loud (From Alive II)
            Beth
            Rock & Roll All Night
    
            Then a 17 minute interview with the band conducted
            by Jay Leno.
    
    
    
    Pretty Good Album, Parasite is the highlight of the record.
    
    
    
    
    CF
19.710OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOWed Jun 26 1996 11:2312
    
    .705
    
    The closest thing to Hendrix for me, was a clone band/singer, about 12
    years ago at the Chaudiere ( a club in Hull, Quebec ) that no longer
    exists. Anyways this guy was and did everything RIGHT, to the clothes and
    head band, expressions, VOCALS, to playing with his teeth and lighting
    his axe on fire. I was impressed.
    
    Smile'in Jack
    
    
19.711yea a naked one! hahaBRAT::JENNISONThats The Sound Of Yur Brain CrackingWed Jun 26 1996 12:272
    
    I thought it was a pullout on the magazine..
19.712This says it all...BINKLY::GWILLIAMSWed Jun 26 1996 13:55112
    From the Detroit Free Press
    Sunday, 6/23/96
    By Brian McCollum
    Music Writer
    
    
    Several things will happen Friday when Kiss takes over Detroit:
    The group will wear makeup.
    It will breathe fire.
    It will blow things up.
    And it will alter the face of rock 'n' roll forever.
    
    At least that's what Gene Simmons says.  "This will single-handedly
    change rock as we know it.  And I'm not fooling myself," says bass
    player Simmons.
    
    "You watch.  A year after this tour begins, you're gonna start
    seeing bands dressing up.  Seriously!  It's gonna be the signal:
    'It's OK now!  You can come out!  It's OK to be flamboyant - don't
    worry about it!'"
    
    Shout it out loud:  The rocket ride is in motion.  Now Kiss, with
    it's comic book metal flag waving in the wind, wants to slam
    through the drab fog that has settled on the art of rock 'n' roll
    performance.
    
    The rock world's eyes and ears turn to the Motor City this week
    as the original Kiss storms back into its favorite rock town with
    the same over-the-top flash and fireworks that earned passionate
    fans (and critical scorn) in the '70s.  Kicking off the most
    talked- about concert tour of the year, Friday night marks a new
    start for a lineup that hasn't played a full-blown concert together
    in 16 years and that dropped its famed makeup and fire antics over
    a decade ago.
    
    Detroit, one of the first spots to embrace the band's rave-up rock,
    is first stop in a lengthy world tour that is chewing up records
    and spitting 'em out like fake blood from a 7-inch tongue:  Tiger
    Stadium sold out 40,000 seats in 47 minutes when tickets went on
    sale in April.  Tickets for 2 Chicago shows were cleaned out in an
    hour.  Four Madison Square Garden shows sold out in a day.
    
    When the group hits the Tiger Stadium stage at 10:15 Friday, it will
    kick off the only stadium show in the United States this summer.  It
    will also mark the return of one of the most delightfully decadent,
    and proletarian, bands in rock history.
    
    "I wanna be the circus.  I wanna come to small-town USA and have you
    look at it and say, 'This is great.'  I wanna march with the circus
    out of town and I wanna feel uplifted.  But if a pseudo-intellectual
    walks up in back and says, 'Yes, but what does it mean?' he's right!
    It means nothing!  It means a Fourth of July fireworks show."
    
    Like all things '70s, Kiss nostalgia has been building for several
    years.  "Kiss My Ass", a 1994 tribute album, was the clincher.  In
    October, the reunited quartet made the plunge, appearing on "MTV
    Unplugged" to perform acoustic versions of the big hits.  But when
    the band members got together to rehearse, they realized the job
    wouldn't come easily.
    
    "Ace and Peter were way out of shape," Simmons says.  "Musically,
    their chops were way off because they had been playing in club
    bands, and'the guys they hired to back them up aren't gonna turn
    around and say, 'That solo sucks.'  But we're so in each other's
    faces now, this will be nothing but great.
    
    The foursome have prepared for the tour by hunkering down with
    the old albums, listening intently, note by note to recapture the
    original feel.  "Anybody who knows music knows there are 20 ways
    to play the same chord," Paul Stanley says.  "And we want to play
    everything the way we originally did....I promise everyone in
    Detroit that "Detroit Rock City" will be played with the intensity
    and passion that anthem deserves, and not changed into a ballad or
    a reggae tune."
    
    Simmons thinks Kiss is just the group to kick the life back into the
    live concert.  It's way past time, he says, to stick some show back
    into the rock show.  And that goes for Kiss itself, which dropped
    the pyrotechnics and fire-breathing antics when the makeup went into
    the bag in '83.
    
    "In the last 10 years there have been some great songwriters," he
    says, citing Smashing Pumpkins' Billy Corgan, Trent Reznor and Kurt
    Cobain as favorites.  "But there isn't a band out there I want to
    see live.  Come on.  I want to walk out and say, 'Wow, I'm gonna
    make a spectacle of myself."
    
    At a concert last weekend in California, where the band closed out
    a daylong festival featuring several young bands, Simmons got a
    first hand dose of the current state of affairs.
    
    "All day long it was fake moshing, because none of those bands
    were mosh bands.  It's all fake depression, fake lumberjack outfits.
    It's like 'P.S., idiots, you're in California.  It's 90 degrees."
    
    But when Kiss hit the stage that night....
    
    "Let me tell you: Rock is alive.  People's jaws just dropped," he
    says.  "Well, it helped that we opened the show with a helicopter
    that buzzed the audience, with police lights underneath it, before
    settling on top of 40-foot-high Kiss blowups of ourselves."
    
    Simmons is sick of the seriousness - and apathy - that have
    overtaken rock.  He longs for the old days, when life was loose,
    spirits were free and rock rolled along like one long party.  He
    saw glimmers of hope last weekend.
    
    "I thought, 'My God, there's hope for rock 'n' roll still.  Like
    cockroaches, we will outlive you all."
    
    Amen.
    
19.713BUSY::SLABOUNTYAfterbirth of a NationWed Jun 26 1996 14:067
    
    	Let's not get ridiculous here.
    
    	Just because we want to see KISS in all their glory, I have
    	a feeling that the Metallica or Queensryche boys would look
    	very out of place if they tried the same thing.
    
19.714OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOWed Jun 26 1996 15:277
    
    So now the make-up thing is finally cool with them. They only used the
    make-up, costumes, etc etc in the early days because it was said they
    needed a Gimmick because they weren't SECURE with their own music
    in the beginning.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.715KISS vs ALICEASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Thu Jun 27 1996 14:187
    ...well, that may be...BUT I distinctly remembah reading that
    KISS tokk on the glam in order to outdo Alice Cooper, who they were
    definitely competing with at that time (as far as showmanship, etc)
    
    FWIW
    
    macky
19.716And the Winner is......BRAT::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Thu Jun 27 1996 16:3910
    
    
    I think you're right, mac, i remember hearing something along those
    lines.  
    
    Who do you think won?????  ;-)
    
    
    CF
    
19.717SCAMP::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows....Fri Jun 28 1996 16:526
    
    
    E-Mail the Band at:
    
    
    			kissnation@aol.com
19.718PATE::SCHIAVONECameras got them imagesFri Jun 28 1996 17:166
   >> E-Mail the Band at:


	WHY???

	/CQ
19.719WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Mon Jul 01 1996 21:1020
    
    I got a friend who works for MTV (Associate Producer of Real World)
    who just got me a videotape of the interview Kiss did way back on
    Tom Snyder's old "Tomorrow" show.  
    
    I was rolling on the ground.  Gene was the only guy trying to 
    maintain any sense order at the intervie, once having to calm down
    Ace, who was very obviously wasted (as well as hilarious).
    
    This interview absoultely *HAD* to be source #1 for Rob Reiner
    when he put together his interview pieces for Spinal Tap.
    It was like I was watching the movie all over...  :^)
    
    The tape also had some footage of Kiss in Italy doing "She's
    so European" (gaaaaggggg!) and "I" on Don Kirschner (another
    big loser song for them).
    
    Now I really want to go to the concert!
    
    - Sean
19.720BUSY::SLABOUNTYA seemingly endless timeMon Jul 01 1996 21:123
    
    	Don Kirschner ... there's a blast from the past!!
    
19.721Supporting the first albumCADSYS::FENNELLYuri! quit smooshing packagesMon Jul 01 1996 23:304
I'm pretty sure Don Kirschner is where I saw Kiss first.  They did Deuce and 
Firehouse.

Tim
19.722FABSIX::K_KAMARI Love It LoudTue Jul 02 1996 16:482
19.723BUSY::SLABOUNTYBaroque: when you're out of MonetTue Jul 02 1996 16:546
    
    	Maybe he wants a couple more.  Doesn't hurt to ask.  8^)
    
    	However, no offense, but you'd have to be a fine specimen to
    	get ME to leave Shannon Tweed.  8^)
    
19.724MEAN GENEKDCA01::CDCUP_TORRENGotta B Willin 2 Crash-n-burnTue Jul 02 1996 16:574
    
    	Re; Gene having kids...I thought he was a virgin...*)))
    
    Bobby T - who'll be seeing Kiss... 
19.725FABSIX::K_KAMARI Love It LoudTue Jul 02 1996 17:088
19.726FABSIX::K_KAMARI Love It LoudTue Jul 02 1996 17:105
19.727PATE::SCHIAVONEKinda I want to...Tue Jul 02 1996 17:114
	Neh, neither is shoe size, but it counts....%^)

	/Cap'n Quad
19.728FABSIX::K_KAMARHomer Simpson School Of EtiquetteTue Jul 02 1996 17:163
19.729BRAT::JENNISONThats The Sound Of Yur Brain CrackingTue Jul 02 1996 17:171
    Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll...
19.730Shake it good...shake it up...LUDWIG::LAMOTHEA B B ATue Jul 02 1996 17:206
    
     It's not the SIZE that counts, it's how well you use it that matters
    !!!   Right ?
    
    /Sax_I_love_you_man_ophone
    
19.731FABSIX::K_KAMARHomer Simpson School Of EtiquetteTue Jul 02 1996 17:229
19.732BUSY::SLABOUNTYBaroque: when you're out of MonetTue Jul 02 1996 17:267
    
    	RE: .726
    
    	Oh, I know that ... but sometimes they're hard to ignore.
    
    	8^)
    
19.733FABSIX::K_KAMARHomer Simpson School Of EtiquetteTue Jul 02 1996 17:577
19.734BUSY::SLABOUNTYBe gone - you have no powers hereTue Jul 02 1996 18:226
    
    	Yeah, I saw part of that, too.
    
    	Great body, for sure ... but she hasn't aged too gracefully
    	since I saw her in "Hot Dog".
    
19.735POLAR::LYLEslam dance cosmopolisWed Jul 03 1996 01:356
    
    Check her out in Penthouse circa 1980.
    Enough to make a grown man..... cry...... 8)
    
    Dave
    
19.736FABSIX::K_KAMARHomer Simpson School Of EtiquetteWed Jul 03 1996 10:175
    
    
                          Yawn.....:-O
    
    
19.737That Makes Yer Baby Wanna RockWMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlWed Jul 03 1996 10:327
    AWWW Kit,
     Yer Just Jealous of Shannon. :_)
    
      And Don't None of you Forget That Line In That Old_Song..
    
    
       Crazy_"It_Ain't_The_Meat,_It's_The_Motion_Al
19.738FABSIX::K_KAMARHomer Simpson School Of EtiquetteWed Jul 03 1996 10:425
19.739I'd be concerned... ;-)KDX200::COOPERHe who laughs last, thinks slowestWed Jul 03 1996 21:257
    
    RE: Crazy Al
    
    You hear that "it's not the size" comment from a LOT
    of girls?? 
    
    ;-)
19.740:_)WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlFri Jul 05 1996 11:173
    
    
                          Ask Yer Wife..
19.741HOOPLE::FENNELLYuri! quit smooshing packagesFri Jul 05 1996 12:221
ba da bump !!!!
19.742yFABSIX::K_KAMARDazed and ConfusedSun Jul 07 1996 20:3510
    Saw a little footage on MTV last night of the opening show in
    Detroit..... KILLER !!!!!
    
    Those guys are getting up there in age, but they can still rock like
    always. :-)
    
    Can't wait to see 'em when they come to Boston !!!!  It will be a night
    to remember. :-)
                               *** Kit ***
    
19.743SCAMP::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars and SideshowsWed Jul 10 1996 11:238
    
    All the reports I've read about the KISS shows so far rate them as
    incredible!!  They're even mixing up the set list from show to show,
    in terms of order and songs played, which is nice, for a little
    variety.
    
    
    CF-Looking-Forward-To-The-Boston-Show!
19.744Says Mr Ticket-lessHOOPLE::FENNELLLights out, lights out Chicago!Wed Jul 10 1996 12:151
Shaddup!   :-)
19.745S.F.Y.TOTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOWed Jul 10 1996 17:393
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. 
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.746STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Jul 11 1996 05:193
    
    Shock Me.
    
19.747..glad to help....CHIPS::FLATTERYThu Jul 11 1996 13:102
    ..just stick one of your appendages in an outlet...that'll do it...;").
    ......./k
19.748POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Jul 11 1996 18:381
    oogle oogle oogle!
19.749STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Jul 11 1996 23:214
    
    Ouch.
    
    
19.750for SueJCADSYS::FENNELLLights out, lights out Chicago!Thu Jul 11 1996 23:451
SonOFA!!  that's going to leave a mark...
19.751FABSIX::K_KAMARIn-A-Gadda-da-vidaSun Jul 14 1996 19:1318
    
    Lately, every time I go into a bookstore or a near a supermarket
    magazine stand, all I see is images of KISS gracing the covers of
    numerous music mags.....
    ....and this past weekend, what should I see as I enter SAM GOODY ?????
    
                 A huge cardboard cut-out of KISS  right in front of the
                 door !!!!!!!!!
    
    I swear, it's like a flashback to 1977 or '78.
    
    I think having Ace and Peter rejoin the band was the best thing for
    'em....financially AND  image-wise . :-)
    
    *** Kit ***
    Who's REALLY Excited About The Boston Show
    
    
19.752HOOPLE::FENNELLLights out, lights out Chicago!Mon Jul 15 1996 11:135
Watched Kiss unplugged last night.  I swear I could see cash registers in Gene's
eyes as Ace and Peter walked out.  Ace looks like he got treatment for DAFS... 
although he had the alcoholic bloat to his face...


19.753POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixMon Jul 15 1996 12:384
    
    any of you newbies in H_M need a run-down on the DAFS, or are you 
    clued into the discussion ?!?
    
19.754The real thing...or nothin' at allSTRATA::LAMOTHEA B B AMon Jul 15 1996 13:326
    
      why are peter and chris both listed as special Guests ???  Are they
    not touring on the NEW kiss tour ???
    
    /Sax_who_wants_the_original_members_not_gene's_crow-nies !
    
19.755FABSIX::K_KAMARIn-A-Gadda-da-vidaMon Jul 15 1996 13:3510
    You mean Peter and ACE, dude. ;-)
    
    Yeah, they have rejoined the band and are touring with 'em.
    
    Where have ya been ???? :-)
    
    They were listed as special guests because at that point in time, they
    weren't back in the band yet.
    
    
19.756thanks KitSTRATA::LAMOTHEA B B AMon Jul 15 1996 13:499
    
      Oh....I see !  8)   
    
      What can I say....Doesn't matter if it's monday or Friday...I'm
    SLow....  
    
    /Sax_who_remembers_the_tune_SLOW-RIDE_by Foghat....and that's it...
    
    
19.757FABSIX::K_KAMARonce Bitten, Twice ShySun Jul 21 1996 20:146
19.758POLAR::LYLEI will not abbrev.Mon Jul 22 1996 01:496
    
    Got my tix on Friday for the Ottawa show. (thanx Smile'n Jack!!)
    Only two weeks to go!
    
    Dave
    
19.759OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOMon Jul 22 1996 12:145
    
    Dave, no problem. We'll have to hook up at Marshy's before the show to
    pound back a few Ale's.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.760and another Bah-stin show-goer signs in...ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Mon Jul 22 1996 13:1010
    ...and how about the Bah-stin shows?  Kit, what night you got, the
    30th or the 31st?  I got the 31st, and anyone going to THAT one, let's
    pound a few at The Harp across the street, hhmmm????
    
    I'll get the 1st round, so get there early!
    
    (man, maybe I shouldn't have said that....could get X-pensive...
     oh well.....hafta work some OT B-4 then!)
    
    wacky_macky
19.761SCAMP::FORTIN_CHis Coat is Torn and FrayedMon Jul 22 1996 13:3912
    
    
    Ooooh, the Harp - Good waterin' hole.
    
    
    >>>>>>>>>>I'll get the 1st round, so get there early!
    
    	Is Tuesday early enough????
    
    
    
    CF-Both-Shows
19.762FABSIX::K_KAMAROnce Bitten,Twice ShyMon Jul 22 1996 16:057
19.763Contractors don't get paid for holidays, anyways.OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOMon Jul 22 1996 16:186
     
   The Ottawa show is on a Monday. Guess who's taking the following day off
   to recover. Since I've only taken two days off as "holidays" I'm
   laughing.
    
   Smile'in Jack
19.764POLAR::LYLEI will not abbrev.Tue Jul 23 1996 01:525
    
    re: Smile'in Jack
    You got it. First (several) rounds on you eh? 8^)
    
    Dave
19.765and a "Good-Day" to all in the Great White North!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Jul 23 1996 09:5414
    ...and howz da weather in the Great White North, eh??
    
    ...and how about those Senators, eh?
    
    
    ...gots to admit, I've been in Ottawa once on the way home from Toronto
    (the LOOOOOONNGG way back from Toronto!)  What's that part of the City
    where all the sidewalk are bricks and lots of restaraunts & bars
    (or "bahs" as we Bostonians say), eh??  Was there poundin'-a-few
    three years ago, nice area, real nice City....
    
    keeponrockin', all
    
    wacky
19.766I really couldn't afford to go anyway!POLAR::TYSICKFuzzy Bunnies Guide to You Know What?Tue Jul 23 1996 11:158
    Are ya refering to the "Market", a.k.k the Byward Market?  Definitly a
    cool place for all types of activities!  And thanks for the compliment
    about our little town!
    
    Ya think ya know a guy?  I was asked by Dave to go to the KISS concert
    (via e-mail) when he got tickets from S'n J...then he turns around
    before I gave an answer and tells me someone else is goin with him! 
    What a bast**d eh?   Freakin Hoser!
19.767CountdownFABSIX::K_KAMARWhip It GoodTue Jul 23 1996 12:035
19.768OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOTue Jul 23 1996 17:028
    
    Have/are any of the Noters putting on KISS faces for the big night. I'm
    considering getting Holloween make-up and painting mine. Haven't
    decided like whom yet though. Wish this was a few years ago when I
    had my hair half way down my back. I might look silly with a painted
    face and short hair like I have now.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.769BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Tue Jul 23 1996 17:073
    
    	Buy a wig.
    
19.770OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOTue Jul 23 1996 17:177
    .765
    
    I think you were on Sparks Street. There are no cars allowed and the
    strip is loaded with stores and bars/restaurants plus a couple outdoor
    patios.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.771HOOPLE::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandTue Jul 23 1996 17:1910
I heard on the radio that there's problems on this tour...

They supposedly have a backup in Ace makeup ready to go on if he slips up... 
Apparently he's still dabbling in drink/drugs...

Peter and Ace are only making $2M and Gene & Paul are making $20+M and so Peter
and Ace aren't happy (like they'd be doing anything right now that would get
them 2M???)

Tim
19.772SCAMP::FORTIN_CHis Coat is Torn and FrayedTue Jul 23 1996 17:2310
    
    >>>>>(like they'd be doing anything right now that would get them
    >>>>>2M???)
    
    
    You could also say that Paul & Gene would not be making $20 Million 
    without Ace & Peter.  Where did this salary info come from???
    
    
    CF
19.773hope there faces get painted or use bagsSTRATA::LAMOTHEDon't Fear the Reaper's WifeTue Jul 23 1996 17:255
    
     I hope they do the tour in Makeup, becuase They are as Ugly if not
    uglier than Mick Jaggar....
    
    /Bubba
19.774MakeupOTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOTue Jul 23 1996 17:375
    /Bubba
    
    That's part and parcel to the whole package.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.775SCAMP::FORTIN_CI'm Back in the New York GrooveTue Jul 23 1996 17:4314
    
    
    >>>>>Have/are any of the Noters putting on KISS faces for the big
    >>>>>night.
    
    Yup, I just gotta get the make-up (ACE), platform boots and a long
    silver cape.
    
    I'm having trouble finding the cape, not many people that I know
    own a silver cape I could borrow  ;-)
    
    
    
    CF
19.776FABSIX::K_KAMARWhip It GoodTue Jul 23 1996 17:4510
    RE.: .773
    
    What ??????????????!!!!!!!!
    
    How DARE you say that GENE is uglier than Mick Jagger !!!!! 8-{}
    
    I am REALLY, REEEEEEEEEALLY, p.o.ed now !!!!!
    
    Why I oughta go over there and.......
    
19.777POLAR::LYLEI will not eat things for moneyWed Jul 24 1996 01:3911
    
    re: J.,
    
    I told you once I'm sorry. My buddy already dropped the coin on me so I
    have to take him. Besides, I know what you're like when you're drunk!!!
    
    re: Kit.
    I agree, Mick Jagger is way way way uglier than Gene.
    
    Dave
    
19.778NOOOOOOO!!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Wed Jul 24 1996 13:4019
    
    
    
    re: .771
    
    PLEASE, oh PLEASE say this isn't so!  Man, we've been looking forward
    to this concert soooo friggin' much, it would SUK big-time
    if what you say is true...what radio station did you
    get this info from?
    
    The only review I've seen of this tour was in the August 8th 
    ROLLING STONE...gave it a good review, all in all....
    
    soo, what station did you hear this from?
    
    Hopefully, what you heard was just a rumor....HOPEFULLY!!!!!
    
    
    wacky_hopefully_macky
19.779HOOPLE::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandWed Jul 24 1996 13:5810
KISS was on a segment of Today's Business on CNBC.  They were talking about 70's
acts cashing in, following the lead of the Eagles.

They showed the KISS stage (very impressive).  They were doing Deuce during the
segment.

I would say that this was the last place I'd have expected to see them.

Tim

19.780ready t goSTRATA::LAMOTHEDon't Fear the Reaper's WifeWed Jul 24 1996 14:286
    
    ....and they all had bags on their heads so that they would not be
    confused with Mick Jaggar !
    
    / :-)
    
19.781BRAT::JENNISONA Wild Eyed Child Of The SunWed Jul 24 1996 16:401
    Anyone cruising to boston from NH for the show?
19.782HOOPLE::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandWed Jul 24 1996 17:116
SueJ, 


I love you dearly but,

PPHhhtthhtth!!!!!
19.783ribbit...ribbitSTRATA::LAMOTHEDon't Fear the Reaper's WifeWed Jul 24 1996 17:296
    
      re: -1
    
      Sorry,  You ain't getting my Bud !!!
    
    
19.784STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Jul 25 1996 00:366
    
    I'll be at the July 31 show.  Where's everyone drinking at before
    the show?
    
    Kev --
    
19.785drinkin at Da FleetASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Thu Jul 25 1996 10:207
    ...we'll be at The Harp across the street from The Fleece-Center...
    or we could REAL dangerous and drink at The Penalty Box....
    
    ahh, I ken see it now, 8 oz Shaefer's on ice, Seagram 7 on da side...
    
    anyone else wanna Rock and Roll all Night?
    Oh...and Pahty e-v-e-r-y day?
19.786STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Jul 25 1996 22:335
    
    Then the Harp it is.  
    
    Kev --
    
19.787POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixFri Jul 26 1996 13:1416
    Although KIZZ *may* be experiencing problems with ACE, be assured
    they will WORK IT OUT!!!
    
    The first leg of the "re-union" tour has gross far more than 
    expected.  I guess the drop in ticket prices worked (from the
    four price ticket plan posted in reply .600 to $40 and $27.50).
    KIZZ is setting records for merchandise sales at every venue
    they are playing in.  Even the $150 special edition tour package,
    complete with band member autographs and never before seen
    paraphanalia, is selling remarkably well.  Average per cap on
    merchandise is averaging $17.50 a show.  Once date in MO 
    did $190,000 in credit card sales *alone*.
    
    
    So, roll those pennies, all you kids going to the Boston shows..
    
19.788BRAT::FORTIN_CI'm Back in the New York GrooveFri Jul 26 1996 13:347
    
    
    I've seen the T-Shirts, they look awesome!!!  I can't wait
    to buy a couple of 'em!!
    
    
    CF
19.789POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixFri Jul 26 1996 13:563
    -1
    
    They must be awesome -- cuz they also keep selling out of t-shirts.
19.790MSG 7/27/96BRAT::FORTIN_CI'm Back in the New York GrooveSun Jul 28 1996 15:3982
    
    
    Hello h_m noters
    
    
    Got a call from my friend in Providence on Fri. night because he
    scored 4 tickets to the show on Saturday night in Madison Square
    Garden.  The tickets were 12th row on the floor, right in the center.
    You think ticket prices are outta control around here (Boston), you
    should see NYC.  The face value on these tickets were $86.00!!
    That aside, I figured this was a once in a lifetime opportunity
    to see Kiss in the big apple (don't bite the maggots!)  So off I
    went with 3 friends for hte show.
    
    We got down there around 6:30 nd ate in Times Square at the All Star
    Cafe, nice place, $6.50 a beer though, so the tab was up around
    $200.00.  Then we tooka cab over to the concert.
    
    Missed the opening act, don't even know who it was, and the lights
    went down around 9:00.  Kiss hit the stage about five minutes later
    and the whole place exploded as they roared into Deuce.  Then they
    played King of the Nighttime World and Stanley addressed the crowd.
    He let out a big "Heellllooooo New York".  He gave a little talk, 
    nothing too exciting and they played "Do Ya' Love Me" and the crowd
    sang the first verse.  It was excellent.  They went on to play,
    in no particular order, Strutter, Firehouse (Gene had a nice fire-spit)
    Cold Gin, Love Gun (they really nailed this one!!!  It was a lot
    better than I expected), Watchin You, Let Me Go R&R and Shock Me.
    Ace's guitar solo during Shock Me was unbelieveable!!!  He lit up
    the guitar and played for a while then hooked it up to a piano wire
    and it rose up into the rafters.  He got another guitar and finished
    the solo with that one, which also happened to shoot bombs out of the
    end of it and he was really into the solo.  It was extremely well
    played and just plain AWESOME.  After watching this concert, no one
    can tell me that this is without a doubt Ace's band.  He dominated
    the show, his playing was flawless and he really seemed to be enjoying
    himself.  After his solo Stanley said "He came down from space to
    rock your world, Ace Frehley on the guitar.
    
    They played Rock Bottom with Ace & Paul doing the slow intro.
    Stanley talked up Rock Bottom as one of his favorites because
    it starts off soft and then gets hard!  
    
    The highlight of thr show was absolutly "Back in the New York Groove"
    Staney introduced the song, and the crowd was INTO IT BIG TIME!!
    As you can imagine, it went over real well.  It was great to see Ace
    up there doing his thing and the crowd response was fantastic.  I guess
    you sorta had to be there to get the whole NY feeling but it was
    awesome.
    
    God of Thunder came after this with Gene doing his blood spitting and
    getting hoisted up to the lights.  He sang the song from up there,
    standing on top of the lights, blood all over his face, and dripping
    off him.  The ripped this song as well, with Peter doing a nice
    drum solo after it.  They also played Shout it Out Loud, and
    100,000 years (another highlight of the show) and htey closed
    with Black Diamond.  There were quite a few bombs during the set
    but not as many as I expected.
    
    The encore was Beth, Detroit Rock City, and "The Rock and Roll
    National Anthem", R&RAN.
    
    This is running a little long so I'll wrap it up.  You really
    have to see this to believe it.  I've been waiting my whole life
    to see the real KISS and they did not disappoint...........seeing them
    up there in make-up makes you see them as The Demon, the Starchild,
    the Cat and the Space Ace, not as Paul, gene etc....They are the super
    heroes that I loved when I was a kid, and still love today, and for
    this one night, I felt like a kid again.  Anyone who was too young
    to see them when toured in the 70's knows what I mean.  What agreat
    show this was, I can't wait to see it again on tueday in Wednesday.
    It'll be good to compare the shows to this one from NY.  I probably
    left some songs out of this review, but you'll get to see them when
    you go.  Hopefully , they'll add 2000 Man in Boston, 'cuz I really
    wanted to hear that.
    
    
    
    THE BOSS IS BACK!!!!
    
    
    CF
19.791CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandMon Jul 29 1996 11:463
The Boston Globe had something on KISS on Friday.  Apparently Ace has nearly
lost his voice due to smoke inhalation.  (smokebomb inhalation actually).  So
there must be some serious special effects...
19.792BRAT::FORTIN_CI'm Back in the New York GrooveMon Jul 29 1996 11:486
    
    
    Re: -.1
    
    
    Ace was fine!!
19.793sounds like back in '79 with newer songs added!SUBSYS::MSOUCYMon Jul 29 1996 12:0015
    
    Sounds like the show when I saw em back in '79. Gene being hoisted to
    the ceiling catwalk singing god of thunder, spitting blood, blowing
    flames, etc...It was a memorable show back then. Ace with this (I
    think) Blue Gibson with the 2 idiot lights inside the body near the
    pickups which gets hoisted into the air like it is going to explode or
    something, he comes out with SAME guitar, aims and fires at one
    hanging, causing it to explode, etc...same schtick as before! But would
    have been cool to see them again, but no big loss on my part, at least
    I saw em once in my lifetime, now they are going for the $$$ with this
    tour!
    
    JMHO is all!
    
    
19.794ABACUS::FORTIN_CI'm Back in the New York GrooveMon Jul 29 1996 18:286
    
    
    Kit - I can't respond to anything you're sending me, it keeps
    saying remote node is unreachable!!
    
    CF
19.795BRAT::JENNISONA Wild Eyed Child Of The SunMon Jul 29 1996 18:575
    Then That must mean ITS Unreachable!!!
    
    She hasnt been in here today so... that would be a good sign that its
    down....
    
19.796ABACUS::FORTIN_CI'm Back in the New York GrooveMon Jul 29 1996 18:583
    
    
    Oooof!!
19.797BRAT::JENNISONA Wild Eyed Child Of The SunMon Jul 29 1996 19:032
    xo
    
19.798"She looked GOOD she looked hotter than Hell!"ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Wed Jul 31 1996 10:0817
    ...OK kiddies the BIG night is here (for macky anyway!)
    
    "You wanted it, Rock Fans, and you got it..the Hottest Band in the
    Land....KISS!!!"
    
    "It's Cold Gin time again!"
    
    
    can't friggin' wait until tonight!  We got a room fer the night
    at the Susse Chalet (oooooo...hoi-polloi!).....can't wait to
    ROCCKKKKK!!!!
    
    Anyone go to the Fleet show last night?
    
    C-Ya at Da Show, kiddies....get there early & often!
    
    wacky_macky
19.799I'll be there tonight...anyone else want to go?BIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsWed Jul 31 1996 10:217
We got an extra ticket for tonights Kiss Concert at the
Fleet Center!! Balcony seat....selling for face value ($40 something).
Contact the owner of the ticket if interested:

Paul Betti
SCOMAN::BETTI
225-4295
19.800BRAT::JENNISONA Wild Eyed Child Of The SunWed Jul 31 1996 11:132
    
    Ill be there!
19.801KISS....July 30th...Fleet Ctr.FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Jul 31 1996 11:1531
    Saw KISS at the Fleet Ctr. last night !!!!!
    
    AWESOME !!!!!    They all were in TOP form...( altho' Ace messed up a
    tiny bit on one of his solos...but other than that was great. ) :-)
    
    Gene's blood-spitting routine was really intense !!!!
    When he got hoisted up into the air and set on the platform above the
    stage &  did GOD OF THUNDER, it was the coolest thing.
    
    The highlight of the show, for ME, was when they did WATCHIN' YOU.
    One of MY  all-time KISS faves. :-)
    Gene's vocals were right on.    I had tears in my eyes.
    
    Peter was excellent !!!!  He just looked sooooooo psyched about playing
    with the band again.
    At the end of the show, he ran from one end of the stage to the other,
    throwing his arms in the air, " greeting " the audience.  ( That's the
    only way I can descibe it. )
    And then Gene grabbed his arm and playfully swung him around a few
    times.
    
    The comradery (sp?) between the guys was really incredible.
    It was ...dare I say..." touching "....to see them all back together
    again and getting along so well.
    
    All in all it was a great show !!!! :-)
    
    For you folks going to see 'em tonight.....you are in for an AWESOME
    time !!!! :-)
    
    *** Kit *** 
19.802BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanWed Jul 31 1996 11:251
    I have tears in my eyes reading that ! I cant wait !!!!!!!!!!!
19.803YOU WANTED THE BEST YOU GOT THE BEST!POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixWed Jul 31 1996 11:4560
    I, too, was present at last nights KIZZ extravaganza.  For those without
    tickets, Ticketb@stard *did* release last minute seats at 4:30pm.  I 
    landed 12th row center seats, which were perfect.  The stage is HUGE,
    so any closer and you would not have been able to grasp a perspective 
    of the whole damn thing!
    
    How was it??
    
    BEYOND AWESOME!!!
    
    The stage -- sort of a hybrid.  Mostly from the 1977/78 tours, but
    without the stairs and movable platforms over the amp stacks.  The
    lighting rig and some special effects were more reminiscent of the
    1979 Dynasty tour, but there are some wild 90s technology thrown in,
    too, to keep things new and fresh.
    
    The songs -- 1973 through 1978 ... nothing after!!  Pretty much the
    best from Alive I and Alive II.  I'll provide a spoiler list from
    memory at the end of this note for the curious.
    
    Overall -- The band rock and COMMANDED the sold-out Fleet center.
    They had the place in a frenzy until the last note was played.
    The lights were amazing, there were more fireworks, smoke bombs,
    fire bursts, and dry ice than you could shake a stick at!!
    
    
    
    SPOLIER WARNING -- SET LIST INFO !!!
                                                    
    
    
    Set list (not in order)
    --------
    
    Deuce
    King of the Nighttime World
    Calling Dr. Love                               
    Cold Gin
    Let Me Go, Rock n Roll
    Watchin You
    Firehouse
    Black Diamond
    Rock Bottom
    100,000 Years
    Strutter
    God of Thunder
    Back in the New York Groove
    Shock Me
    Love Gun
    (and a couple more I know I'm forgetting)
    
    Encore 1:
    
    Detroit Rock City
    Beth
    
    Encore 2:
    
    Rock & Roll all Night
    
19.804POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixWed Jul 31 1996 12:169
    
    P.S. to those heading to KIZZ tonight...
    
    As listed in .787 -- the merchandise KIZZ has on tour with them is
    AWESOME!!!  They have about 20 different t-shirt styles available,
    as well as a slew of custom KIZZ paraphanalia (videos, jewelry,
    books, basically anything you want to own in association to the band).
    
    Roll your pennies, and come early -- lines for this stuff were huge.
19.805FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Jul 31 1996 12:208
    Yeah, come early people !!!!
    
    And bring plenty of $$$....this stuff is NOT cheap. :-|
    
    I only bought a program....and it cost me $ 20.00 !!!!!!
    
    Sheesh.....
                                   *** Kit ***
19.806drooling.STRATA::CARROLLWed Jul 31 1996 12:217
    
    my son is going to love this. i took him to see them at great woods
    when he was 4. he couldn't stop drooling.
    i told him if they ever did the make-up thing again, we are there.
    he's 10 now, and still drooling........
    
    bill
19.807OTOOA::BERNARDSTEPHEN BERNARD @OTOWed Jul 31 1996 12:245
    
    Thanks for the review everyone, keep it coming, we Ottawa fans have
    another 5 days (Aug 5) until BLASTOFF.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.808BUSY::SLABGTI 16V - dust thy neighbor!!Wed Jul 31 1996 12:577
    
    	If someone reads this and can afford it, could you pick me up
    	a LARGE T-Shirt?  Something with the band members on it and
    	the fact that it's the '96 tour would be great.
    
    	Of course I'll pay you for it ... thanks!!
    
19.809how much?STRATA::CARROLLWed Jul 31 1996 13:124
    
    on that note, does anyone have any idea what t-shirts are going for?
    
    bill
19.810FABSIX::K_KAMARWed Jul 31 1996 13:165
    T-Shirts ,are going from $ 25.00 to $ 45.00.....
    
    The more expensive one being the best one.
    
    But, all selections were good. 
19.811can you be more specific?POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixWed Jul 31 1996 15:047
    GTI
    
    All shirts say 1996 on them -- you pretty much have your pick of
    "album covers" for the shrits -- Destoryer, the new live one, 
    Rock n Roll Over, The solo lp's, as well as some cool "custom"
    shirts of individual members...            
    
19.812BUSY::SLABGot into a war with reality ...Wed Jul 31 1996 15:127
    
    	Andy Zuidema said he'd pick 1 up for me ... I'm not really
    	picky about the specific shirt, but I would prefer a shirt
    	with all their faces on it.
    
    	Thanks!!
    
19.813SCASS1::BARBER_Aplease pass the dirtWed Jul 31 1996 15:591
    Don't you mean SMALL, skinnyboy?
19.814BUSY::SLABGot into a war with reality ...Wed Jul 31 1996 16:047
    
    	Skinny, yes.
    
    	Short, no.  I'm almost 6' and need the length that a LARGE
    	provides.  A SMALL would look like a halter top within about
    	2 months.
    
19.815SCASS1::BARBER_Aplease pass the dirtWed Jul 31 1996 16:051
    But that'd be so CUTE!  8)
19.816BUSY::SLABGrandchildren of the DamnedWed Jul 31 1996 16:107
    
    	YOUR exposed belly button could very probably be described as
    	"cute".
    
    	Mine?  Well, it's not exactly ugly, but I wouldn't call it
    	"cute" either.
    
19.817yFABSIX::K_KAMARWed Jul 31 1996 16:108
    I prefer Programs to t-shirts because they last indefinitely
    ( if you take care of them )...... shirts fade, get torn, and all that
    other stuff.
    
    Programs defintiely make a better, more permanent souvenir. 
    
    And are generally a cheaper option......;-)   
                                                     *** Kit ***
19.818OTOOA::BERNARDCheck CheckWed Jul 31 1996 17:098
    
    Kit
    
    No one says you have to wear the shirt if it's a "souvenir".
    I have never worn the T-shirt I bought in 89 at The Stones - Steel
    Wheels concert.
    
    Smile'in Jack                                               
19.819OTOOA::BERNARDPeace through superior fire powerWed Jul 31 1996 17:546
    
    For the benefit of (and you know who) The Stones shirt is the only
    one I have saved to date and I have been concerting since 77. The
    norm is to wear the shirts until they are well history.
    
    Smile'in Jack                       
19.820Turf the shirt and I'll sure miss her!POLAR::RENAUDPBo Peep did it for the insuranceThu Aug 01 1996 02:158
    Wow!  I thought I was the only freak who did this.  I have a Ferrari
    shirt from the factory in Maranello, Italy, and It's never touched my
    back.  The wife keeps trying to get rid of it, but I told her if she
    threw it out she had better be prepared to send me to the factory for a
    replacement!  I also have a shirt from the '89 Stones/ G'N'R show in
    LA.  The only 2 shows that G'N'R opened for the Stones.
    
    Paully 8)
19.821HEY, where all they white women at?STRATA::CARROLLThu Aug 01 1996 09:0016
    
      Well, it was like i was 15 all over again. had to be the best show
    ive seen in a long time. the songs, the fire, gene, it was awesome.....
    the only thing that bothered me was the lack of women, did anyone else
    notice this? first time ive ever been to a kiss concert and the men out 
    numbered the women 3 to 1. sure there were some girls, but no women.
    whats up with that? i can remember them out numbering the guy's 3 to 1,
    and ive been to alot of kiss concerts.
    
    but anywho, my son loved it, and it was deffinately a treat being there
    with him. if they come back, and im sure they will, we are there......
    
    UNFREAKINBELIEVEABLE!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    BILL
19.822Not THE New York Groove, surely?WOTVAX::DAVIESGI had too much to dream last nightThu Aug 01 1996 10:3810
    Just browsing through this, and noticed that Kiss are playing a song
    called "Back in the New York Groove". Is this the same song that Hello
    charted with in the UK back in 1975 (the fourth single I brought :-)),
    it was written by Russ Ballard, ex-Argent and released on the infamous
    Bell label. 
    
    If so, what's Kiss's connection with it, how long have they been
    playing it live, did they record a version of it etc...?
    
    Guy
19.823POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 01 1996 10:474
    While I'm sure Russ Ballard did a song of this name, "Back in the 
    New York Groove" is an Ace Frehley original which appeared on his
    1979 solo album.  FYI, it's the only song off of ANY of the four
    KIZZ solo albums the band is playing live.
19.824POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 01 1996 10:5732
    The show last night was great.  Included below is a revised set 
    list from memory...
    
    Set list (not in specific order)
    --------
    
    Deuce
    King of the Nighttime World
    Do ya Love Me?
    Calling Dr. Love                               
    Cold Gin
    Shout it Out Loud
    Let Me Go, Rock n Roll
    Firehouse
    Shock Me
    Watchin You
    Black Diamond
    Rock Bottom
    100,000 Years
    Strutter
    God of Thunder
    Back in the New York Groove
    Love Gun
    
    Encore 1:
    
    Detroit Rock City
    Beth
    
    Encore 2:
    
    Rock & Roll all Night
19.825OTOOA::BERNARDPeace through superior fire powerThu Aug 01 1996 11:316
     
    I'm reading in today's paper that D.Generation is the opening act
    here in Ottawa. Are they worth checking out ? or should I skip the
    D.G's to get a couple extra pints into the system.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.826helps to know someone!!BIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsThu Aug 01 1996 11:4713
    Great Show.....One of the guys I went with knew a dude who works
    security for the F.Center and he was able to move us from our
    purchased nose bleed seats to floor about 30 rows back from the
    stage. Such a deal!!! 
    We skipped the opener....D.Generation. I have know idea how they are
    or what they do or how they did last night. I'd say skip 'em for a couple
    and prime up a little more for the real show!!
    
    We didnt get searched as we entered....did anyone else? That surprised
    me....and I think they were selling beer inside although I didnt
    buy any there.
    
    Andy
19.827PEAKS::YANDELLI am what love is all aboutThu Aug 01 1996 12:2111
I'm pretty sure that on MY copy of Ace Frehley's solo album Russ Ballard
is credited with writing "New York Groove."       


<<< Note 19.823 by POWDML::BUCKLEY "Valkyrie: The Joy of Six" >>>

    While I'm sure Russ Ballard did a song of this name, "Back in the 
    New York Groove" is an Ace Frehley original which appeared on his
    1979 solo album.  FYI, it's the only song off of ANY of the four
    KIZZ solo albums the band is playing live.

19.828who the hell is russ ballard?CAREER::MULHOLLENwe all bleed the sameThu Aug 01 1996 18:0963
>> While I'm sure Russ Ballard did a song of this name, "Back in the 
>> New York Groove" is an Ace Frehley original which appeared on his
>> 1979 solo album.  FYI, it's the only song off of ANY of the four
>> KIZZ solo albums the band is playing live.


>I'm pretty sure that on MY copy of Ace Frehley's solo album Russ
>Ballard is credited with writing "New York Groove."       


     forgive me buck... but this guy is right.  russ ballard is
     credited for writing 'New York Groove' on ace's album.  and
     forgive me for grinning, but i (as well as some others i'm
     sure) love it when your wrong! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) 

     read on,

     /brian


Album Cover 019: ACE FREHLEY

   Casablanca NBLP 7121 (US)
   Casablanca NBPIX 7121 (Picture Disc)
   VIP 6579 (Japan)
   Casablanca/PolyGram 826-916-1/2/4
   RIAA: Platinum --Billboard Chart Peak: #26 --Rating: ****
   Released: 18 September, 1978--Re-issue April, 1988

   A1. Rip It Out                       (3.39) - AF/LK/SK
   A2. Speedin' Back To My Baby         (3.35) - AF/JF
   A3. Snow Blind                       (3.54) - AF
   A4. Ozone                            (4.41) - AF
   A5. Whats On Your Mind?              (3.26) - AF
   B1. New York Groove                  (3.01) - RB <- russ ballard!
   B2. I'm In Need Of Love              (4.36) - AF
   B3. Wiped-Out                        (4.10) - AF/AF2
   B4. Fractured Mirror                 (5.25) - AF


   Produced by Eddie Kramer and Ace Frehley. Recorded, Mixed and
   Engineered by Eddie Kramer, Bob Freeman, Eric Block and Don
   Hunerburg at The "Mansion", Sharon, CT. and Plaza Sound
   Studio, NYC. Spring, 1978.

   Anton Fig_____________Drums/percussion.
   Ace Frehley___________Lead, rhythm & acoustic guitar/bass/
                         guitar synthesizer/lead vocals/back-up
                         vocals.
   Larry Kelly___________Back-up vocals on A1.                                                                                                    The KISS FAQ Part 3 (p16 of 95)
   David Lasley & Susan
         Collins & Co.___Back-up vocals on A2, A5 & B1.
   Will Lee______________Bass on A4, B2 & B3.
   Bobby McAdams_________Power mouth on B1.
   Bill Scheniman________Bell on B4.
   Carl Tallarico________Drums on B4.


   Only one out the four solo albums to score a Top-10 hit (New
   York Groove), outselling all other three. Includes part 1 of
   a 4-part KISS mural.
     __________________________________________________________

19.829BUSY::SLABBasket CaseThu Aug 01 1996 18:2510
    
    	What do you mean, who is Russ Ballard?
    
    	Kids these days, I'll tell ya!!  8^)
    
    	He had a song called "Voices" back in the early/mid 80's.
    
    	And he has more songwriting credits than Pamela Lee has
    	silicone molecules.
    
19.830BUSY::SLABBasket CaseThu Aug 01 1996 18:34105
     Kiss' big -budget blast from the past rocks well
     into the '90s

     By Jim Sullivan, Globe Staff, 08/01/96

     MusicReview

     ``There's a fine line between clever and ... uh
     ... stupid.''

     * Nigel Tufnel, Spinal Tap

     And Kiss rides that line so sweetly.

     Yes, Spinal Tap - the infamous parody rock band -
     was bandied about in one of the VIP suites Tuesday
     night high up at the FleetCenter, but it wasn't
     used derisively. It was used in awe.

     You want bang for your buck? Well, your 50 bucks?
     Kiss - with all original members back in face
     paint, trim fighting form and
     black-white-and-silver regalia for a two-year,
     arena-packing tour - delivers. It's the biggest
     and the brightest of rock shows, with rockets
     ricocheting off the FleetCenter ceiling and
     fireworks exploding over the stage, confetti
     falling during for ``Rock and Roll All Nite,'',
     singer-guitarist Paul Stanley destroying his axe,
     fake blood hacked up by bassist Gene Simmons
     during ``God of Thunder,'' Ace Frehley playing a
     solo so hot his guitar smoked and flew away (on
     strings). It's nothing more than a rock version of
     a big-budget Hollywood action movie. But Kiss gets
     to say, ``Hey, we were there first.''

     And now they're here again, blurring the line
     between the mid-1970s and mid-1990s. In their
     makeup and costumes, they seem virtually
     identical. As all the material is drawn from the
     '70s, there was a definite time warp factor in
     play. You can call it cheese if you want - and it
     really is a middlebrow product - but if you're not
     smiling (or singing) along with ``Deuce,'' which
     kicked off the two-hour show, ``Firehouse'' and
     ``Strutter,'' you're just not suspending enough
     disbelief. The sound? Take the crunch of The Who,
     the pop and harmony sense of Sweet and the
     horror/fantasy from Alice Cooper and stir.

     In a world where Slayer and Marilyn Manson slither
     and crawl, Kiss can't be rated anything more than
     PG-13. Sure, Stanley encouraged a front-row blonde
     to doff her top and make out with her galpal for
     the video camera and two wide screens. But there
     was no profanity, and Kiss songs are cut from the
     generic rebellious cloth: No home invasions and
     mutilation fantasies for Kiss. Drummer Peter Criss
     even passed out roses during his solo spot,
     ``Beth,'' an encore. When they bowed at the end,
     they all held hands like it was ``Cats'' on
     Broadway.

     Kiss moment No. 1: The guys are tearing through
     ``Shout It Out Loud'' and you are obeying. You are
     shouting it out loud. Then, you think, ``Shout
     what?'' And then you answer ``it.'' Doesn't matter
     what. The letters in Kiss really might stand for
     Keep It Simple, Stupid.

     Kiss moment No. 2: So we don't get lost or
     confused, Stanley explains the transition in
     ``Rock Bottom.'' It starts soft; then it gets
     hard. In case you missed the metaphor, he repeats
     it. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Kiss loves the
     naughty and the nasty in a most teen-age way.

     Kiss moment No. 3 (a stray pondering): What
     exactly is the difference between rock and rolling
     all night and partying every day? When does one
     bleed into the other? Is it a segue? Should there
     be down time? And since Kiss is adamant about the
     no-booze, no-drugs thing, be sure to party clean!
     Stanley backed into ``Cold Gin,'' a boastful song
     about a young punk's need to cop gin (``the
     cheapest stuff is all I need/to get me back on my
     feet again'') by explaining that if you were
     drinking, make sure a sober buddy drove you home.

     Kiss moment No. 4: Stanley said in an interview
     last week that it is matter of pride that Kiss
     shows start on time, dammit, and starting time was
     set at 9 p.m. sharp. So, why did it begin at 9:07?
     Manager Doc McGhee cheerily took the blame. The
     T-shirts at the concession stands were just flying
     off the shelves and the lines were deep and it
     dawned on him that the opportunity to make a bit
     more cash might fit snugly with the band's ethos.
     Our bet is that McGhee does not get chewed out or
     fired today.

     This story ran on page e3 of the Boston Globe on
     08/01/96.

19.831where I got my info (freshly) from...POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 01 1996 18:3611
    
    Oh well -- that's how the les paul bounces.
    
    FWIW -- Paul Stanley announced NYG Tuesday Night by saying "Ace is
    gonna sing a song now he wrote for his solo album, and it's a good
    one...."
    
    I guess that sounds better than "Ace is gonna sing a song written
    by Russ Ballard..."
    
    8^)
19.832BUSY::SLABBasket CaseThu Aug 01 1996 19:027
    
    	If you've ever heard of a band called Samson from the 70's,
    	Russ Ballard wrote "Riding with the Angels".
    
    	I'm trying to dig up a list of his credits, but so far that's
    	all I've found.
    
19.8337892::SLABBe gone - you have no powers hereThu Aug 01 1996 19:135
    
    	And he wrote for Uriah Heep.
    
    	And I believe he wrote Rainbow's "Since You've Been Gone".
    
19.8347892::SLABBe gone - you have no powers hereThu Aug 01 1996 19:173
    
    	And "You Can Do Magic", by America.
    
19.835KISS rocked..LUDWIG::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Aug 01 1996 22:5511
    
    Just got in.  I saw the 7/31 show.  It was damn near the best show
    I've seen in a long, long time.  The band looked decent.  Last time
    I saw Ace he was chubbin'...must be on the white lightning again.
    
    Brought back some memories this one.  Volume was right up there thank
    God.  Pyros kicked all night.  Song list was great.
    
    Back in the Boston groove indeed.  
    Kev --
     
19.836So it was the same song!WOTVAX::DAVIESGI had too much to dream last nightFri Aug 02 1996 07:0426
    Thanks for the response to .822!
    
    Its nice to know that Kiss are keeping alive the memory of the glam
    juggernaut that was Hello :-)
    
    BTW, I can't believe someone noting in here has not heard of Russ
    Ballard ?!?!?
    
    He was the guitarist with Argent, and wrote "God Gave Rock'n'Roll to
    You" with Rod Argent and "Hold Your Head Up", both huge hits in the
    early 70's. He then went into writing pop/glam/rock tunes for various
    record companies. Hello were picked up by Bell Records initially to
    front some of Russ's songs, one being "New York Groove", they later had
    another huge hit with a bouncy glam version of the Exciter's "Tell
    Him". His writing slowly became heavier, until he came out with "Sine
    You've been gone", which was written for Cherie & Marie Currie for
    their 1980 album "Messin' with the Boys" (albums worth getting for the
    cover alone ;-)), later covered by South African all girl band Clout as
    their follow up to their international smash "Substitute", this is
    where Rainbow picked it up from and issued another cover of the song in
    1983 (I think?).
    
    Russ then had that hit with "Voices" in 1985. He still writes for other
    recording artists.
    
    Guy
19.837..."how many like ta take a taste of alcohol?"ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Aug 02 1996 10:0138
    ........WOW!!!!!!!!!
    
    that kinda sums it all up!
    
    Just gettin' back into my own "groove" today, courtesy of a 
    much-needed sick day  yesterday after the show...MAN, oh man
    that wuz the best friggin' concert I've seen in many a moon!
    I mean, the Fleet was just going bonkers!  Everybody was
    sheddin' their inhibitions and reaaaallllly groovin' to KISS
    on the 31st....sounds like the 30th show was cool also,
    GREAT to see the boyz back together again!
    
    One of the biggest hands the band got wuz at the end of the show
    when they all lined up, held hands, and took a bow to the audience...
    people went CRAZY!!
    
    I wanted to just keep rockin' all night, too bad reality
    has to settle in!  The wife sez that this reunited KISS was the best
    thing a man going thru mid-life crisis (ME!) could possibly hope for
    (altho a blonde would be cool also!)
    
    I got the KISS shirt that sez "KISS destroys Fleet Center" on the back
    and the "Destroyer" cover on the front...way cool indeed!
    
    
    ANd as far as women at the concert?  We sat in the "Club seats"
    (in front of the luxuryt boxes straight back) and there wuz
    plenty of 'em around us....
    
    musta been my cologne??
    
    
    
    
    
    ....nahhhhhh
    
    wacky_macky
19.838POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixFri Aug 02 1996 12:125
    Re: .836
    
    
    Hmmm, is that the SAME "God Gave Rock & Roll To You" that KIZZ
    had a hit single with a year or two ago?!?!?
19.839WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlFri Aug 02 1996 12:414
    "Put it in A Song For Every_One."
    
    
       Crazy_It's_Gotta_Be_Al
19.840LUDWIG::KLOmoney is a cancer of soulFri Aug 02 1996 13:501
    What happen to Bruce and the drumer?
19.841back at ya, dude....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Aug 02 1996 14:015
    ....Bruce and Eric gave their "blessings" (as Gene put it)
    to the origianl members doing this tour...Paul said they were both
    "perfect gentlemen" in the way they handled this tour as well...
    
    wacky
19.842SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienFri Aug 02 1996 14:436
    
    they're unemployed!
    
    
    
    						ian
19.843PCBUOA::WHITMANJFri Aug 02 1996 16:0926
    
    
    
    I attended the 1st show, had an excellent time.  The show itself was 
    great.. Paul missed a couple changes in a song or two, but for the most 
    part it was very entertaining.. 
    
    I was lucky enough to get a call the day of the show from the drummer 
    in the band that I'm playing with now.  He's good friends with tour 
    manager and was able to score great seats and backstage passes.  We 
    ended up hanging backstage during the first band (drinking their
    beers) ;'). The guitarist from Anthrax (Scott) was there, along with the
    guitarist and bassist from Aerosmith.  Didn't actually get to meet
    the band, we hung around a bit after the show, but I didn't think
    they'd come out so we left.. Luckly we did, come to find out (from the 
    tour manager) that they usually leave right after the show and just
    send a rep in to say that the band had to leave... 
    
    The seats were great, just off of the floor to the right of the stage.
    Could see everything!  Buck is right, if you're within the 1st 5 rows,
    you won't get the full effect of the show.. (unless of course you're 
    one of the lucky few in the front row to get blood spit on from Gene..) 
    
    Overall, a great show that is a must see..
    
    Whit-                          
19.844Oh show me the way to the next Whiskey bar...OTOOA::BERNARDPeace through superior fire powerFri Aug 02 1996 16:478
    
    Dave Lyle
    
    If your in this week-end and read this I'll probably be hitting
    Marshy's between 6-7pm. It's safe to say that KISS won't be on until
    about 9ish and I'm passing on the D.Generates.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.845OTOOA::BERNARDDeath before DishonorFri Aug 02 1996 17:0013
    
    Dave L
    
    Give me a call on Sunday, I may, have another ticket available it
    appears. The person that was going is in jail and does not look like
    he'll be out and everyone else I've called so far has rabbit ears -
    empty pockets. Anyways if one of your friends is still interested
    and I haven't found someone by Sunday morn - 225-4043. If I'm not
    home I'll let the wife know what the status is to pass on to you.
    
    Smile'in Jack
    
    
19.846New Year's Eve anybody??ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Sat Aug 03 1996 09:066
    ...read in a KISS file,on the WEB that they *may* be playing
    on New Year's Eve, Nassau Colleseum, Long Island, N.Y.
    
    MAN, would that be a blast!  Whatta way to welcome in 1997 !!!!!!!
    
    Jest tryin' ta be helpful_macky
19.847One day and counting.....POLAR::LYLEa burp is not an answerMon Aug 05 1996 03:0913
    
    Smile'n Jack,
    
    I can meet you at Marshies. I'll be there around 6:00 pm, or so. 
    I read an article about D-Generation (or whatever they're called) and
    they don't sound like a band I want to see.
     
    If you still have that other ticket, I know a guy in Phase 6 that may
    want to go. His name is Jason Tysick, he reads this conference too, and
    may be interested. Maybe send him a mail.
    
    Dave
    
19.848.838 - They are the same songWOTVAX::DAVIESGI had too much to dream last nightMon Aug 05 1996 06:496
    re. 838
    
    Yes thry are the same song. Kiss obviously admired Russ Ballard for
    quite some time :-)
    
    Guy
19.849BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanMon Aug 05 1996 11:465
    KIZZ- July31st...
    
    All I can say is WOW! THe Absolute Best !
    
    SueJ
19.850BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanMon Aug 05 1996 11:565
    And I saw RobBaby with only a beer in hand! ;)
    
    He says HEY PEOPLE~!
    
    SueJ
19.851POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixMon Aug 05 1996 16:264
    
    -1
    
    You mean RobPose?
19.852BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanMon Aug 05 1996 16:501
    Yupper...
19.853FABSIX::K_KAMARRazor Blade SoupMon Aug 05 1996 16:506
19.854BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanMon Aug 05 1996 16:563
    Oh yes- He reached out and touched me with his tongue.. ;)
    
    I was 16th row- 2nd section on the floor.. 8)
19.855FABSIX::K_KAMARRazor Blade SoupMon Aug 05 1996 17:068
19.856KISS POLAR::LYLEa burp is not an answerTue Aug 06 1996 02:4640
    
    Ottawa show 05/08.
    
    Man what a show. Loved every minute of it. Smile'n Jack put it best
    tho, it was definetly Ace's show. The guy was amazing, even tho he was
    in hard shape. It appears that he's not to used to Canadian beer and
    it's higher alcohol content. 8)
    The boys seemed really tight. A few mistakes, but nothing too
    serious. 
    Ace's solos were great.
    Gene's bit for God of Thunder was wild.
    Peter's solo was very good too. It's hard to imagine that he needed a
    personal drumming trainer to help him re-learn all the parts again.
    
    Song list (from memory and not in order, I'm sure I missed a few)
    Duece
    King of the Nighttime World
    Do You Love Me 
    Calling Dr. Love
    Firehouse
    Cold Gin
    Shout it Out Loud
    Rock Bottom
    Shock Me
    100,000 Years
    Strutter
    God of Thunder
    Back in the New York Groove
    Detroit Rock City
    Love Gun
    plus a few more I can't remember..
    
    Encore
    Beth
    Rock and Roll All Night
    
    It was an event of a lifetime. 
    
    Dave
    
19.857POLAR::LYLEa burp is not an answerTue Aug 06 1996 02:5311
    
    oh oh oh Mr Kotter.... I forgot....
    
    Gene and Paul were goating some girl in the front row to lift up her
    top. I guess she wanted to wait until the camera was on her, man what a
    set of..... teeth. 8)
    The crowd, guys mostly, went nuts after she showed everyone her
    attributes.
    
    Dave
    
19.858BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanTue Aug 06 1996 10:274
    Back a few... Yes there were mostly MEN at the show.. ;) But that was
    ok!
    
    SueJ
19.859KISS-mania is back! Is dis 1976 or 1996???ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Aug 06 1996 10:4114
    ....just saw the first KISS video from this tour on MTV this morning,
    "Shout it out Loud", from the Tiger Satdium show....GREAT piece
    of filming.....hopefully won't be the last vid from this tour....
    
    also sent away for a video of the 07-14 Chicago concert,
    the WHOLE friggin' show, taken directly from a master copy....
    if anyone's interested, the name of the company is
    Domino Video....can post the address if ya like also.....
    
    But foist, gota ta get it in macky's sweaty little hands!
    Then, I'll let youz all know if it's worth the price of $22.00....
    
    wacky_macky
             
19.860ABACUS::FORTIN_CI'm Back in the New York GrooveTue Aug 06 1996 10:446
    
    
    Re: -.1
    
    
    PLEEEAAASSSSEEEE let us know if it is worth it!!
19.861ME TOO !!!!FABSIX::K_KAMARRazor Blade SoupTue Aug 06 1996 11:536
    
    I am yet ANOTHER individual who is interested knowing more about this
    video. :-)
    
                            *** Kit ***
    
19.862OK!!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Aug 06 1996 14:226
    ....OK folks.......will let youz ALL know how it is when I get it
    (they promise 7-10 delivery upon receipt of payment, FYI)....
    
    sooo, hang in there....
    
    wacky
19.863KISS movie anyone??ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Aug 06 1996 19:1221
    ...while we're all on this vid talk-thang...wuz rollin' thru
    my HIGH-ly X-tensive video collection, came across the KISS movie
    from 1978, "The Phantom of the Park", er somethin' like that...
    
    ...anyone remembah this made-fer-TV movie??  Starred KISS in all their
     Late-70's glories, along with veteran character-actor  Anthony Zerbe
    and some REALLLLY bad acting fer sure...anyone???
    
    If this is covered in another reply, sorrrryyyy, buit didn't see it...
    
    It's got some great concert-made-fer-TV footage, along with Gene
    growling, Ace can levitate, Paul can read minds, Peter is just
    "Catman"....
    
    anyone wanna reply to this?  I just couldn' believe I found thia tape
    after allll thee loooongg years....Can make copies if yer like....
    
    Kiss-Mania rulezzzzzzzzzzzz............
    
    
    wacky_signin'_off
19.864Kiss Meets the Phantom of the ParkABACUS::FORTIN_CI'm Back in the New York GrooveTue Aug 06 1996 19:1816
    
    
    Leave it to me Starchild, I'll bend those bars with my mind!!
    
    
    
    
    Great, great, vintage movie.  Do you have a copy of this????
    I saw it in a used video store a couple of years ago and I've
    been kickin myself since then for not buying it.
    
    
    I seem to recall some excellent concert footage from the movie??
    
    
    CF
19.865POLAR::LYLEafraid of no man... and very few womenWed Aug 07 1996 04:543
    
    RIP RIP!!! RIP AND DESTROY!!!
    
19.866RIP! RIP!!!!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Wed Aug 07 1996 09:2116
    ...Ya, CF...I got a copy from Ch. 9 in Chi-Town (over the tube)...
    not the *greatest* copy*, but it's verrrryy HARD (oooo, Baby!)
    to find this anywhere, let alone a good copy....can make
    a copy fer ya, CF, if ya like, but as I said, it ain't the best
    copy to start with......
    
    mail me a blank tape theu inter-office mail, if ya like....
    
    George McNamara (a.k.a. wacky)
    HLO2-3/L12
    DTN 225-4457
    
    
    C-ya, Starchild!
    
    wacky
19.867THANKS!!!BRAT::FORTIN_CAce Frehley, Lead GuitarWed Aug 07 1996 10:5211
    
    
    Mac, 
    
    YOU THE MAN!!  Thanks a million!
    
    
    I owe ya' one!
    
    
    CF
19.868OTOOA::BERNARDDeath before DishonorWed Aug 07 1996 11:398
    
    Dave good Note about our Ottawa show. Couldn't do it myself since I
    took yesterday off to recover. I'd like to just re-iterate again, what
    I mentioned to Dave and has printed already, ACE was the band IMHO on
    Monday night. He is being under paid big time, only 2 mil (same as
    Peter) to Gene and Paul's 20 mil. 
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.869BRAT::FORTIN_CAce Frehley, Lead GuitarWed Aug 07 1996 11:5816
    
    
    And to think, everyone (well, not EVERYONE) was worried about
    how Ace would play/sound.......
    
    
    .......it's without a doubt, his band now!
                (Like it ever wasn't)
    
    Anyone have any idea when tickets go on sale for the Oct. 12th
    show in Albany???  Or have any idea where I could find out???
    I called the Mercury Hotline, and all it does is give dates, no
    ticket info.
    
    
    CF
19.870more on the Oct. 12th infoASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Wed Aug 07 1996 12:1811
    ...well, just called TicketSHAFTer about the Knickerbocker Arena
    show...no tickets on sale yet, BUT they will be selling the
    tickets...what I would suggest is that we ALL call every coupla days
    to see if when the sale date is (that's what the Ticket-dude said
    to do...)
    
    Their # is 518-476-1000, and the Oct. 12th date IS the correct date,
    FYI......
    
    
    let's get a KISS-Karavan going fer this one.....whatta blast!!!
19.871BUSY::SLABAct like you own the companyWed Aug 07 1996 12:1914
    
    	I have "KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park" ... bought it 5 or
    	so years ago somewhere.  If you really want to be honest here,
    	it's a terrible movie, but KISS fans and "schlock movie" fans
    	[like me] go for this sort of stuff.
    
    	All the concert stuff was lip-synched, of course.
    
    
    	And thanks to Andy Zuidema for picking up a shirt for me at
    	the concert last week ... the front is the "Destroyer" cover
    	and the back is basically "KISS destroys the Fleet Center
    	96/97".
    
19.872I Want the Best.....Again!!BRAT::FORTIN_CAce Frehley, Lead GuitarWed Aug 07 1996 12:2234
    
    wacky........The list I have is in this note somewhere, dont know
    which reply, though.  They ain't coming too close to here, according
    to the schedule.  
    
    10/8 - 10/11	Philidelphia
    10/12		Albany
    10/13		The Aud in Buffalo
    
    
    Those are the closest dates coming up.  From what I understand,
    the European leg of the tour doesn't start until December or
    January and the tour dates in the US end on 10/16.  Maybe they'll
    swing through again after that and hit Worcester/Providence/Hartford
    and the other spots the missed the first time through.....I sure
    hope so!  When I saw them in NY, Stanley ranted about how they were
    gonna be back to the area "before you know it".
    
    
    Also coming up:
    
    
    The 1st Annual Boston KISS Expo
    
    WHEN: Sunday, September 22, 1996
    WHERE: Valley Expo Center, Rt. 213 Methuen, MA
    SPECIAL GUEST: Vinnie Vincent, more guests to be announced
    TICKETS: $12 in advance, or $15 at the door, call 201-387-9019
    
                                                                                    
    If I find any tour/ticket info, I'll post it.
    
    
    CF
19.873POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixWed Aug 07 1996 13:182
    
    Where are you all getting this $2M to $20M crap??
19.874BUSY::SLABAfterbirth of a NationWed Aug 07 1996 13:264
    
    	If they're wrong, why not be helpful for a change and post the
    	REAL numbers?
    
19.875BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanWed Aug 07 1996 13:381
    From what I understand it is in the new SPIN issue ? 
19.876OTOOA::BERNARDDeath before DishonorWed Aug 07 1996 13:4110
    .873
    
    Read it in the paper, thanks. Now if YOU were Gene and Paul, and have
    kept this band together for about a decade after the other two have
    left, you wouldn't want or expect a bigger piece of the pie. Give me
    a break this is a business and like any other well you can figure out
    the rest I'm sure. Now IMO after seeing them Monday, ACE, and Peter for
    that matter should get alot more than what's been - reported.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.877what's this about?SUBSYS::MSOUCYWed Aug 07 1996 14:008
    
    re: .872
    
    Where did you get this info?! This is like 5 minutes from my house! I
    may even drop by! What's is this one all about anyways? Memorabilia,
    and the like? Vinnie autograph? (big deal!)
    
    
19.878Kiss ConventionBRAT::FORTIN_CAce Frehley, Lead GuitarWed Aug 07 1996 14:1912
    
    Got it from the Kiss Otaku page on the WWW a while ago.  For
    some reason I cannot access that page anymore so I cannot
    get an update.
    
    As far as I know, it's people buying/selling/trading Kiss merchandise
    and memorobilia.  I imagine VV will be giving autographs, if you're
    into him.  I think they had one of these in Hyannis a while ago,
    but I've never been.  I wouldn't be suprised if a local tribute band
    played there.  That's really all the info I have.
    
    CF
19.879WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlWed Aug 07 1996 14:397
    I Need A_Lot Of More Facts to Believe that KIZZ is Ace's Band.
     IMHO I Can't See How you People See That.
      I'm Glad He was ABle to Make This Tour..(Shakey on Some_Nites from
       What I Hear)And He's Rippin Solos_And_All..
        But..If You Were to Askes Me..This is Gene's_And_Pauls BAnd.
    
             Crazy_Take_It_To_The_BAnk_Al
19.880POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixWed Aug 07 1996 16:025
    
    The article in Amusement Business on the KIZZ tour touted completely
    different numbers.  While they didn't report exact figures, they
    noted that each band member would earn in excess of $10M in royalties
    for the re-union tour.            
19.881OTOOA::BERNARDSo get it into youThu Aug 08 1996 14:565
    
    I think your talking about royalties from the greatest hits CD not
    the tour.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.882POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 08 1996 15:1716
    >I think your talking about royalties from the greatest hits CD not
    >the tour.
    
    For one thing, it's "you're", NOT "your"!
    
    Also, the article was about the Reunion TOUR -- not an album!!
    This was the same article I got the tour date and ticket pricing
    info, which I posted in reply 19.600.  Again (paraphrased) "the
    four members of KIZZ (listed names) are each slated to earn in
    excess of $10M a piece for their 96-97 worldwide reunion tour"
    
    I believe that sum is indicative of ticket prices and merchandise 
    sales, etc.  Lord knows the concert dates themselves have only been
    grossing between $700k - $900k per date.  Only one of their recent
    shows broke the $1M mark (it was a date in California).
    
19.883I like it when I'm RIGHT.OTOOA::BERNARDSo get it into youThu Aug 08 1996 16:177
    .882
    
    >For one thing, it's "you're", NOT "your"!
    
    Check Webster's Dict "your" is a word and fits in my sentence.
    
    Smile'in Jack                            
19.884SCASS1::BARBER_AWhere is my real head?Thu Aug 08 1996 16:195
    You're wrong, though.  You must not have read the definition.
    
    "You're" is a contraction for "you are", which was what you were saying.
    
    "Your" shows ownership, as in "your lousy attitude".
19.885OTOOA::BERNARDSo get it into youThu Aug 08 1996 16:267
    .884
    
    Your - OF or relating to YOU or .... etc etc etc 
    
    I still think your wrong.
    
    Smile'in Jack 
19.886POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 08 1996 16:265
    The use of "your" would have been correct if you had said something
    like "I think your talking is obnoxious", as Pril pointed out, 
    "your" implies ownership.
    
    nnttm
19.887To each his own.OTOOA::BERNARDSo get it into youThu Aug 08 1996 16:296
    
    So what. You had better hope the hell I never catch the two of "you's"
    make a mistake, boy oh boy.
    
    Smile'in Jack
    
19.888BUSY::SLABStand back,I dunno how big it gets!Thu Aug 08 1996 16:3011
    
    	Yes, because once you use "your" with "talking", "talking" be-
    	comes a noun [instead of a verb] and your "sentence" is verb-
    	less.
    
    	So even though "your" is a word, and can be used as you said
    	it could be used, further sentence modifications need to be
    	done to ensure grammatical correctness.
    
    	/Binder   [8^)]
    
19.889SCASS1::BARBER_AWhere is my real head?Thu Aug 08 1996 16:373
    agagagaga.  I wasn't picking on you dude, you could just as easily have
    done that by accident, but since you defended your use of the wrong
    word, I had to respond.  I will try to stay on my toes now.  8)
19.890SCASS1::BARBER_AWhere is my real head?Thu Aug 08 1996 16:392
    By the way, Shawn, the sentence would not have been verbless, because
    the word "is" is a verb.  8P
19.891BUSY::SLABStand back,I dunno how big it gets!Thu Aug 08 1996 16:446
    
    	OK, smarty-pants, please point out where "is" appears in the
    	sentence in .881?
    
    	[NOW I sort of sound like edp!!  8^)]
    
19.892SCASS1::BARBER_AWhere is my real head?Thu Aug 08 1996 16:471
    oopsie, I thought you were talking about Buck's sentence in .886.
19.893OTOOA::BERNARDSo get it into youThu Aug 08 1996 16:496
    I know Barber_A, I can never seem to remember to put, one of those
    damn happy face things after my retorts. I can see why I can come
    across like a unhappy buckaroo.
    
    Smile'in >;-)) Jack
    
19.894SCASS1::BARBER_AWhere is my real head?Thu Aug 08 1996 16:543
    Well, you know what's kinda funny is that your notes are very
    expressive of your personality regardless and that's all that matters. 
    The way you place your commas is most endearing.  8) 
19.895BUSY::SLABStand by stomach - here come banana.Thu Aug 08 1996 17:005
    
    	It could be Battis in, disguise.
    
    	Whaddaya, think April?
    
19.896OTOOA::BERNARDSo get it into youThu Aug 08 1996 17:064
    
    Ok, what's, a Battis ??
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.897POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 08 1996 17:138
    >>Ok, what's, a Battis ??
    
    
    Notes>  Open BACK40::SOAPBOX/NoNotebook
    
    
    You must experience "Battis" to believe it!
    8^)
19.898DId I win something???CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandThu Aug 08 1996 17:131
Up you'res 
19.899SCASS1::BARBER_AWhere is my real head?Thu Aug 08 1996 17:223
    Could be, could be.  8)
    
    I thought you were on vacation this week, Battis!
19.900SNARF!POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 08 1996 17:541
    
19.901Battis & ButtheadPOWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 08 1996 17:542
    
    Shut up, Battis!  You're ruining it!!
19.902KIZZ stuff...AKOMI2::OROURKEDo not cry for the memoryThu Aug 08 1996 23:3615
    
    And now back to talking KIZZ!
    
    I've just received a copy of the 'officially licensed merchandise'
    catalogue.
    
    T-shirts are mostly $16 (Alive/Worldwide '96-'97, Kiss my Ass,
    Unplugged, Not Dead yet, Solo Album, etc).  The Comic book all over
    t-shirt is $25.   There is a Commemorative Edition framed  poster for
    $25, a logo baseball cap for $15, and Peter Criss signature drumsticks
    for $25 - and yup that is for a pair!  :^)
    
    A bit cheaper and easier than buying at the show I'd say!
    
    /jen
19.903POLAR::LYLEafraid of no man... and very few womenFri Aug 09 1996 02:007
    
    Well I dropped $35 canadian bucks on ONE t-shirt!!
    
    Cool shirt though.....
    
    Dave
    
19.904THEMAX::SMITH_SRIP-08/30/96Fri Aug 09 1996 02:121
    HaHa-only $20 here
19.905POLAR::LYLEafraid of no man... and very few womenFri Aug 09 1996 02:133
    
    Yeah yeah.... rub it in!!! 8)
    
19.906MFGFIN::EPPERSONSixteen days, and countingFri Aug 09 1996 02:141
       -A wasted $20.
19.907"I wanna BANG on de drum allll day!"ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Aug 09 1996 10:3012
    ....where do you get the drumsticks (and don't say "at the
    Supermarket"...)
    
    :^0  -> "KISS-mania rulezzzzzzzzzzzz"
    
    
    
    p.s. check out the latest Worcester Phoenix, Gene's on the cover,
    pretty good article on the Bah-stin shows (and it's friggin' free too!)
    
    wacky_macky_sez_glad_it's_Fried-Day!!!!
    
19.908FABSIX::K_KAMARGoddess Of ThunderSun Aug 11 1996 15:5917
    re.:  .879
    
    >>>> But..If You Were to Askes Me..This is Gene's_And_Pauls BAnd.
    
                 Crazy_Take_It_To_The_BAnk_Al
    
    I have to say that I agree. 
    
    I love Ace and all....but....this KISS thing has ALWAYS been Gene's
    ( predominately ) and Paul's band.
    
    Don't forget, Gene has always been ( and prefers it that way ) in
    control of the band.
    
    Ace has his grand moments....but....;-)
    
                       *** Kit ***
19.909OTOOA::BERNARDThose who don't use the 7 P'sMon Aug 12 1996 10:567
    Kit
    
    Were not talking about who CONTROLS the band. It's what I witnessed on
    stage that makes me think ACE is the major factor they have been and
    are "the hottest band in the land".
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.9108^)POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixMon Aug 12 1996 12:175
    -1
    
    Jack -- "Your" right, ACE is a major factor as to why KIZZ roolz!
    
    
19.911FABSIX::K_KAMARDoctor, It Hurts When I Do That...Mon Aug 12 1996 15:1132
19.912Sounds pretty wildBIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsWed Aug 14 1996 18:5121
Rockers KISS are promising the "best show on earth" for fans at the
Saturday August 17th MONSTERS OF ROCK concert in Donington,
England.  Bassist GENE SIMMONS insists their appearance will even
surpass the group's recent record-breaking American shows in size, volume
and sheer amazement.  Simmons explains they are bringing $7 million of
equipment to Britain to wow their diehard fans.  He says, "We'll have
these hydraulic lifts picking up the entire band putting us out above the
crowd's heads 30 feet up and fifty rows out.  "Fireworks will be blowing
up all the time - the biggest goddamn fireworks show you've ever seen. 
"We're going to have helicopters buzzing the audience with police lights
and spraying God knows what over everybody's heads.  "We'll have
split-screen lights that scan the skies, 40 feet-high blow-ups of the
band, three-story high video banks so that even the very last person at
the end of Donington will be able to see everything and hear everything." 
He adds, "The sound system is going to be big enough that it will knock
five pounds off of any fat person within a thousand yards of that stage. 
"I'll be flying to the top of the light truss, which is 60 feet above the
ground, throwing up blood all over everybody's heads.  "It'll be as close
to a war scene in peace time as you'll ever see. Oh, and we'll be playing
some songs too." 
19.913CHEFS::PERKINSPNo,YoudidNOTshootthatgreenshitatme!Thu Aug 15 1996 06:559
    
    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.  If they chuck anything over the donnington
    crowd, they'll need to take cover from an onslaught of 1000 lbs of raw
    liver, piss bombs, paint bombs and empty beer cans.
    
    Still, I would have loved to have seen this show but, alas, I have to
    work.
    
    Flip
19.914that's a four-letter word, ya know.....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Thu Aug 15 1996 11:2411
    ...You have to work??  WORK???
    
    Gawd, man, this is the KISS REUNION we're talking about here...
    call in sick....call in dead...call in WHATEVER...I'd be there
    if I were in the UK, that's fer sure....
    
    altho paying the bills is also a priority......I can sympathyze
    with youz......but THINK about it.....wouldn't a hair-full
    of blood be blooddy well cool??? HHmmmmmmmmmm????
    
    macky
19.915POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixThu Aug 15 1996 12:063
    Flip --
    
    What, prey tell, is a piss bomb?
19.916CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandThu Aug 15 1996 12:126
My guess?  Someone brings a bottle of water is brought into the stadium.  They
drink it and refill it instead of using the porta-johns...

Makes for a good weapon I'd guess...

Tim
19.91780BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanThu Aug 15 1996 12:131
    Please Flip!!!! GO to the show !!!
19.918OTOOA::BERNARDLet those who ride decideThu Aug 15 1996 12:134
    
    Like a water bomb instead you fill the balloon with your own piss.
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.919CHEFS::PERKINSPNo,YoudidNOTshootthatgreenshitatme!Thu Aug 15 1996 13:3715
    
    It's easier to piss into a container than try to fight your way back
    through the crowds to find a loo.  But then you're stuck with the dilema
    of what to do with container...?  So you either lob it at another part
    of the crowd or at the band.  Got it?
    
    Please be aware that I have never thrown a piss bomb.....beer cans and
    paint bombs are another matter.
    
    I am deeply gutted to be unable to go and see KIZZ - IN FULL MAKE-UP! -
    CRISS/FREHLEY/SIMMONS/STANLEY! - but I *have* to work this weekend.
    
    Flip
    
    
19.920BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanThu Aug 15 1996 13:452
    
    NO! Please Flip GO!
19.921WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlThu Aug 15 1996 14:114
    Tell yer Boss That You have an Extra_Ticket and Will Take Him/Her if
     You Can Have The Day_Off!   :_)
    
       Crazy_Yer_There_Al
19.922BRAT::JENNISONHard Luck WomanThu Aug 15 1996 14:123
    
    Exactly "Call In Dead"
    
19.923OTOOA::BERNARDA conscience sustains MonogamyMon Aug 19 1996 15:224
    
    Any reports on the Donington, England show ?
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.924BUSY::SLABErin go braghlessMon Aug 19 1996 15:295
    
    	Yes, I'm sure there are.
    
    	Glad to help.  8^)
    
19.925KISS news HOT off the press!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Aug 20 1996 10:3323
    ....got this from the Web (http://www.buffnet.net/~toefer/press.htm)
    
    "Bruce Kulick and Eric Singer Leave KISS"
    
    New York, N.Y.-- In light of the extension of the KISS reunion tour,
    guitarist Bruce Kulick and  drummer Eric Singer have decided to
    leave KISS in order to fully pursue and consider current offers
    and creative outlets.  "We've had many good years with KISS, myself
    12 years and Eric, five," said Kulick.  " We have both been proud
    of our contributions to the many platinum albums and videos that
    we've participated in."
    
    The press release then goes on to say that both Bruce and Eric
    want to thank all the fans over the years, blah-blah-blah..
    and that they are creating their own websites to accomodate
    questions from fans, etc.
    
    Looks like the ol' KISS is hear to stay!!  Does that mean NEW
    KISS music in a few years??? What about the studio album with Bruce & Eric
    that's supposedly in the can??? 
    
    Inquiring minds wanna know!!!! (or in my cae, "mindless"...)
              
19.926more news from the edge.....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Aug 20 1996 11:2911
    ....OK... just got this from the DOMINO Hotline:
    
    *Bruce & Eric were "terminated", and did not leave the band
     voluntary (hey, believe what ya want, I guess..)
    *KISS (Ace, Gene, Paul, Peter) have signed a contract to be
     KISS until the year 2000....also, they have 6 NEW tunes coming out
     on a new live album that will be recorded at the half-way
     point of this tour....EX!!!!
    
    just tyin' ta be helpful_macky
                           
19.927OTOOA::BERNARDCan't stand the HeaTTue Aug 20 1996 12:285
    
    Are contracted to the year 2000, Great, maybe we'll get to see them 
    one more time before they "retire".
    
    Smile'in Jack
19.928FABSIX::K_KAMAROn The 8th Day, God Created METALTue Aug 27 1996 18:4410
    
    
    
    
                     Any info on the Albany NY. ( Knickerbocker Arena )
                     show ????
    
    
                                     *** Kit ***
    
19.929CHEFS::PERKINSPNo,YoudidNOTshootthatgreenshitatme!Wed Aug 28 1996 08:075
    
    Sadly, I could not go to Donnington.  BUT they tour again in November
    and I won't be missing those dates!
    
    Flip
19.930albany...not YET....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Wed Aug 28 1996 09:4820
    
    Kit (and everyone else!)....no tix YET for ALbany, Oct 12th is
    most definitely the date, however....verified with Ticket-shafter....
    the problem is where to get tix?  Go to N.Y. to a Ticket-shafter
    outlet?  The ticket shafter I usually go to in Chelmsford don't
    sell for Knickerbocker Arena....anyone else know how to get 'em???
    
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmm??????
    
    Gots ta see 'em again!!
    
    
    oh yeah, got my tape of the July 14th Chi-Town concert....it's
    alright, but the sound and the shakey-video get on me nerves...
    BUT, it's a bootleg, and a rarity at that, so not bad.......
    
    will post as soon a I hear something.....
    
    macky
    
19.932CHEFS::PERKINSPNo,YoudidNOTshootthatgreenshitatme!Wed Aug 28 1996 11:127
    re -1
    
    He means CHEMISTRY.
    
    8^)
    
    Flip
19.931Happy NewsPOWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixWed Aug 28 1996 11:485
    Although Eric was a good drummer (chops), I won't miss that tart 
    Bruce Kulick -- aack!
    
    The *old* KIZZ just goes to show that chops aren't where it's at.
    It's all about CHEMISTRY!
19.933POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixWed Aug 28 1996 11:487
    re -1
    
    I meant CHEMISTRY?!
    
    8^)
    
    Buck
19.934BRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunTue Sep 03 1996 17:0812
    
    KissManiacs,
    
    I read on the Otaku that Stanley has announced that Kiss
    will be returning from Europe on Dec. 20th to play a concert
    on New Years Eve in the Meadowlands in New Jersey!!!
    
    
    YES!!!!!
    
    
    CF
19.935POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixTue Sep 03 1996 17:371
    The current ticket gross is $16M over 27 shows played.
19.936BUSY::SLABDon't get even ... get odd!!Tue Sep 03 1996 17:373
    
    	Is that good or bad?
    
19.937SureBRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunTue Sep 03 1996 17:392
    
    I'd take it.
19.938the Moola...The Geetis....Clams....Scratch...ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Wed Sep 04 1996 09:5915
    ....friggin' chicken-feed.....who needs cash?? Not ME!!!
    
    (slap-slap-slap)
    
    ....uh, that's better.....need a slap upside the head every now & then
    to reset my memory.....
    
    
    anyway...anyone hear when the 10/12 tix for Albany go on sale yet?
    anyone???
    
    
    I'll see if I can call this morning, will post back later
    
    (slap-slap-slap-slap_mac)
19.939BRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunWed Sep 04 1996 12:2226
    
    The Otaku page still says N/A for the on sale date for the 10/12
    show in Albany. The 2 Phili shows that on the 8th & 9th plus
    a show at Penn State just went on sale, so I suspect Albany will be
    coming up soon.
    
    I heard that KISS will be closing the MTV music award with two
    songs tonight - should happen at roughly 11:00 PM (EST).  RARAN
    will be the latter of the two numbers played.  I heard that this
    will be simulcasted from a location outside somewhere, I'm not
    exactly sure where.
    
    BTW, KISS goes to England/Europe from 11/2-12/20, returns for the
    rumored new years eve show in NJ and then goes to Asia and Japan
    for Jan '97, Australia and New Zealand for Feb 97, South America
    for Mar. 97 and back to the U.S. of A. in June 97.
    
    Tickets for the 1st annual Boston Kiss Expo are available by calling
    201-387-9010.  It's in Methuen, MA on 9/22/96 at the Valley Expo
    Center on Route 213.  Tix are $12.00 in advance, $15.00 at the door.
    
    
    
    So GET THE FIREHOUSE!!
    
    CF
19.940new info!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Wed Sep 04 1996 12:2420
    ....OK, thanks to a co-worker over here @ HLO, here's the LATEST info
    on new tour dates...JUSt announced.....
    
    For those in the Greater N.E area, KISS will be playing:
    
    *12-26  PROVIDENCE, R.I.
    *12/27  WORCESTER, MA.  (YESSSSSSS!!!!)
    *12-29  Hartford, CONN.
    
    
    man, methinks I'll pass on Albany now, and take in ALL THREE
    of these showzzz........YESSSS! 
    
    Who sez there ain't no Santy Claus?????
    
    p.s. this info, as well as the complete tour outline, updates,
    merchandise, stuff-in-general can be found on the KISS otaku
    Web site (http://www.otaku.net/kiss_otaku)
    
    macky
19.941YES!!!, Beavis, thatz kool!BRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunWed Sep 04 1996 13:0311
    
    
    Adios Albany, hello Providence, Worcester etc.......
    
    
    
    
    WOW, thats good news if I ever heard good news!!
    
    
    CF
19.942Not Enough Shots of AceBRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunThu Sep 05 1996 13:0517
    
    Ahh, who am I kidding, I still wanna go to Albany.
    
    
    
    Anyone catch Kiss last night on MTV Awards??  They played RARAN
    from Harpers Ferry Landing under the Brooklyn Bridge.  Nice
    fireworks show accompanied it.  Don't know if anyone noticed
    or cares but "Holier Than Thou" Gene f'ed up singing.  As they were
    ending the song he kept singing and appeared to catch himself but
    did not recover at all and it sounded really odd.  
    
    It was worth seeing.
    
    
    
    CF
19.943BRAT::JENNISONIm Walking In A SpiderWebThu Sep 05 1996 13:063
    
    
    It was cool!
19.944BRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunThu Sep 05 1996 13:061
    Happy B-Day
19.945BRAT::JENNISONIm Walking In A SpiderWebThu Sep 05 1996 13:076
    ;) Tanks!
    
    
    
    
    RockNRoll Ova
19.946......i know..he's laughing all the way to the bank...JUGHED::FLATTERYThu Sep 05 1996 15:433
    ...oh man..did you see those pants that gene almost had on.....?...i
    didn't know that men got cellulite but apparently they
    do!......:")...../k
19.947FIRE...FIRE!!WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlThu Sep 05 1996 17:455
    I'm Glad that they were Playin Out_Side So They Could Really Let Loose
    with The PyroTechnics.Man,Heaven was on Fire there fer A Minute!
    
    
      Crazy_Now_I'm_Thinkin_About_Seein_Them_In_Worcester_Al
19.948BIGQ::ZUIDEMAI sEe thE WoRld THRU blood SHot EYEsThu Sep 05 1996 19:152
    Ya but I wonder if the Centrum will make them "tone" things
    down????
19.949WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_Dig_It_AlThu Sep 05 1996 19:321
    They Did Once Before when they Played There.
19.950On the Highway to Hellllllllllllll.......ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Sep 06 1996 11:104
    ...mehears that Providence has none of the pyro laws that Mass does...
    maybe do the ride to Provy-Dents as well???
    
    maybe_yes_why_not_macky
19.951BUSY::SLABBe gone - you have no powers hereFri Sep 06 1996 12:0611
    
    	So far they haven't announced a Providence show, have they?
    
    	I mean, they had scheduled it, or at least that was the rumor,
    	for 07/31, but they took that day off the schedule for some
    	reason.
    
    	But I would definitely go to that show!!  But I know how to
    	get there, Jen, so I won't be needing directions via Hart-,
    	ford, CT from Uxbridge.  8^)
    
19.952yupASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Sep 06 1996 12:406
    ...if the schedule is correct, they're doing Provy-Dents 12/26...
    
    :^}
    
    slightly_wacky
    
19.953Albany??????????/BRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunFri Sep 06 1996 13:358
    
    I'm of the opinion that the Albany show is not going to
    happen.  All the shows around the same time-frame are on sale
    already and Albany is not.  Also, it is listed on their
    schedule as a tentative date, so we may be S.O.O.L.
    
    
    CF
19.954Report from DenverPEAKS::YANDELLPlease don't call me Moon PieMon Sep 09 1996 03:1388
Just in case anyone cares, I am posting a report of the Sep 7 Denver
show.  I put a songlist in, so if you don't want to see it, skip this
note.

The show was the most awesome event I have ever been to.  I thought
that after seeing Aerosmith that I had lived a complete life, but 
I am glad that I have lived long enough to see KISS.  If tomorrow
there is a truck ahead, lights staring at my eyes, no time to turn,
its okay because I now have lived a complete life.

First band, Hunger, wasn't to great though.
Spent $25 on a t-shirt
Guy next to me had a bong.
One bad thing I noticed though, the show sold out in 5 hours, but
I saw one guy with about 30 tickets out front scalping them.  A lot
of people were selling tickets for less than face value, just trying
to get rid of them.  I bet a lot of scalpers lost money, but its
really too bad that some people that wanted to get tickets could not
get them unless they came down to the arena before the show.

Songlist: (complete, but may be a bit out of order)

Deuce
King of the Nighttime World
Do Ya Love Me?
Calling Dr. Love
Cold Gin
Watchin you
I stole Your Love
Firehouse
Shock Me
Shout It Out Loud
Let Me Go, Rock N Roll
Strutter
100,000 Years
God of Thunder
New York Groove
Love Gun
Black Diamond
Detroit Rock City
Beth
Rock N Roll All Night




More Detailed, May be a spoiler for you, so skip it if you are going to
see them:

50 foot tall blown up kiss dolls in front of Mcnichol's Arena.

Deuce		Starts with them behind a big black curtain
King of the Nighttime World
Do Ya Love Me?
Calling Dr. Love
Cold Gin	Paul starts by giving a Don't Drink and Drive lecture
Watchin you
I stole Your Love
Firehouse	Gene spits fire at the end
Shock Me	At the end of the song the other 3 members leave the stage
		while Ace does a long solo.  He plays so hot his guitar
		catches on fire, and he still plays it.  It then rises into
		the air.  He grabs another, and shoots some missles from it,
		while playing Beethoven's 5th (I think).
Shout It Out Loud
Let Me Go, Rock N Roll
Strutter
100,000 Years
God of Thunder	Other 3 members leave the stage as Gene does short bass solo
		and spits blood.  They reenter as Gene rises above the lights
		and sings from up there.  Near the end he floats back down
		as he and Ace an Paul leave.  Peter does a long drum solo,
		giving time for Gene to clean the blood off.
New York Groove The end of course they sing "Back in the Denver Groove"
Love Gun
Black Diamond   Paul does short solo while others leave the stage, then starts
		the song  (I didn't know that Peter snag this one)
		Song ends like on the album as they get on these platforms
		that take them above the crowd, and they throw a bunch of
		picks into the crowd
Encore:
Detroit Rock City
Beth		Spotlights focused middle of stage, Peter comes out and
		gives some roses to ladies in the first row.
Rock N Roll All Night	Includes some stevie wonder (?) (clap your hands) and
			the heyeyeyeyeah from I love it Loud (?)  Paul smashes
			a guitar and throws it to people in the front row who
			fight over it.  Everyone leaves satisfied.
19.955I wanted the BEst! I got the BEst!BRAT::JENNISONIm Walking In A SpiderWebMon Sep 09 1996 12:023
    
    
    Ah...... Memories....
19.956September 18th 1978BRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunWed Sep 18 1996 11:106
19.957BRAT::JENNISONIm Walking In A SpiderWebWed Sep 18 1996 11:234
19.958POOKY::OROURKELet's go fly on a COMET!Wed Sep 18 1996 11:386
19.959BRAT::JENNISONIm Walking In A SpiderWebWed Sep 18 1996 12:003
19.960I know that date all TOO well.....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Wed Sep 18 1996 13:3312
19.961Awww, There Ain't No Life NowhereBRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunWed Sep 18 1996 14:2410
19.962BRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunThu Sep 19 1996 16:414
19.963BUSY::SLABExit light ... enter night.Thu Sep 19 1996 19:573
19.964centrum in dec.?SUBSYS::MSOUCYFri Sep 20 1996 09:334
19.965NopeBRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunFri Sep 20 1996 10:238
19.966I Just Hate When the Girl Says WaitBRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunFri Sep 20 1996 11:477
19.967BRAT::JENNISONIm Walking In A SpiderWebFri Sep 20 1996 11:513
19.968Let Me Be Your Sunday DriverBRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunFri Sep 20 1996 12:1112
19.969SCASS1::BARBER_Awar inside my headFri Sep 20 1996 19:001
19.970BUSY::SLABA Momentary Lapse of ReasonFri Sep 20 1996 19:373
19.971Lights, camera, action!POLAR::TYSICKKickin' back ain't kickin' you!Mon Sep 23 1996 10:181
19.972I Just Can't WaitBRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunMon Oct 07 1996 11:117
19.973BRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunMon Oct 14 1996 10:424
19.974SCAMP::JENNISONShe Talks To AngelsMon Oct 14 1996 11:023
19.975cuz she sets my soul a firePOWDML::BUCKLEYMon Oct 14 1996 11:051
19.976Stanley *&#&@(* up some lyrics, too!!BRAT::FORTIN_CSpacin' Out and Havin' FunMon Oct 14 1996 11:2121
19.977when does Centrum tix go on sale?SUBSYS::MSOUCYMon Oct 14 1996 12:015
19.978not yet....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Mon Oct 14 1996 12:3711
19.979Centrum show updateASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Thu Oct 31 1996 09:417
19.980KISSBRAT::FORTIN_CWhere's the Spirit,Where's the Guts?Thu Oct 31 1996 13:3019
19.981MKOTS3::ELMAKISSSat Nov 02 1996 12:177
19.982KDX200::COOPERThere is no TRY - DO or DO NOT!Sat Nov 02 1996 18:153
19.983MKOTS3::ELMAKISSTue Nov 05 1996 04:094
19.984KDX200::COOPERThere is no TRY - DO or DO NOT!Tue Nov 05 1996 23:103
19.985I isBRAT::FORTIN_CWhere's the Spirit,Where's the Guts?Mon Nov 11 1996 12:498
19.986POLAR::RICHARDSONPatented Problem GeneratorMon Nov 11 1996 13:443
19.987From David Letterman's Boston show a week ago friday - I'm still laughing...CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandMon Nov 11 1996 14:402
19.988YESSSS!!!!!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Nov 12 1996 09:059
19.989Gettin' Late, I Just Can't WaitBRAT::FORTIN_CWhere's the Spirit,Where's the Guts?Tue Nov 12 1996 09:4817
19.990$$$ talks.....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Nov 12 1996 10:199
19.991Darkness Will Fall on the City....BRAT::FORTIN_CWhere's the Spirit,Where's the Guts?Tue Nov 12 1996 10:5216
19.992OK!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Nov 12 1996 11:255
19.993OK....who's going Saturday night?????ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Dec 24 1996 11:1717
19.994I Feel Uptight on a Saturday NightBRAT::FORTIN_CWhere's the Spirit,Where's the Guts?Tue Dec 24 1996 11:5611
19.995BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsTue Dec 24 1996 12:542
19.996LUDWIG::LUCHTBreathe deep the darkness inside youFri Dec 27 1996 21:128
19.99712/28/96 - Worcester CentrumBRAT::FORTIN_CWhere's the Spirit, Where's the GutsMon Dec 30 1996 09:5218
19.998KISS RULEZZZZZZ!!!!!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Thu Jan 02 1997 08:5820
19.999POWDML::BUCKLEYThu Jan 02 1997 09:418
19.10001,000 RepliesPOWDML::BUCKLEYThu Jan 02 1997 09:411
19.1001You're Right - The Best One Yet!BRAT::FORTIN_CWhere's the Spirit, Where's the GutsThu Jan 02 1997 11:386
19.1002a.k.a. StarChildBRAT::FORTIN_CNew England Patriots, AFC Champs!Mon Jan 20 1997 09:483
19.1003get this!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Jan 31 1997 09:0810
    ....well, I had the EXTREME pleasure of seeing a KISS tribute band
    last night, "Hotter than Hell", @ The Paladium in Worcester.....
    having never seen any KISS tribute band B-4, these guys ROCKED!
    Looked, sounded, acted just like Da Real Thing....
    man, if anyone gets a chance to see these guys, DO IT!!
    
    I'm trying to find out if they're playing anywhere else this weekend,
    will post if I find anything out.....
    
    mac
19.1004CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandFri Jan 31 1997 11:235
Where are they from?  I sat with a guy a few years back at Great Woods who was
in a tribute band from RI.  He was a dead ringer for Paul Stanley but oddly
enought he was the drummer.

Tim
19.1005back at ya...ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Jan 31 1997 11:4810
    ...not sure where they were from, Tim....I *briefly* chatted with
    the Peter Criss look/sound-alike, but didn't think to ask...
    (couldn't have been the beers....nahhhhhh..)
    
    I'm gonna call The Paladium later today with the hopes of finding
    out where these guys are from and where they're playing in the
    area again.....for $8.00, they were definitely worth the price....
    2.5 hour show, no breaks either....
    
    mac
19.1006IM THERE! COLD GIN IS ALL I NEED!BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsFri Jan 31 1997 12:0718
    KIZZ Tribute Band  *COLD GIN*
    
    Saturday Night Feb 1st.
    
    At Sharpshooters
    Amherst St
    Nashua, NH
    
    
    I have seen these guys a few times and they rock! Ill be there !!!
    Paul Stanley looks exactly like Paul Stanley...
    
    Its probably the band your thinking of Tim, last time I saw them- he
    was in the audience with me... He said that he likes to give some 
    buddys a chance to get up and sing...  Im pretty sure they are 
    from RI.
    
    Who wants to go!!???
19.1007Tour dates for March/April/MayBINKLY::GWILLIAMSWed Feb 05 1997 08:4855
    
    New KISS tour dates.  These dates are tentative as of 1/30/97...
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    
    March:
    7-Mexico City
    8-Mexico City
    11-Santiago
    14-Buenos Aires
    18-Wheeling, WV
    21-New Haven, CT
    22-Springfield, MA
    23-Providence, RI
    25-Portland, ME
    26-Binghamton, NY
    27-State College, PA
    28-Hamilton, Ontario
    29-Erie, PA
    31-Charleston, WV
    
    April:
    1-Baltimore, MD
    2-Richmond, VA
    4-Chapel Hill, NC
    5-Columbus, GA
    6-Nashville, TN
    8-Evansville, IN
    9-Fort Wayne, IN
    10-Grand Rapids, MI
    11-East Lansing, MI
    12-Toledo, OH or Peoria, IL
    13-Peoria, IL or Carbondale, IL
    16-St Louis,MO
    17-Topeka, K
    18-Souix Falls, SD
    19-Ames, IA
    20-Cedar Rapids, IA
    22-TBA
    23-Madison, WI
    25-Mankato, MN
    26-Fargo, ND
    27-Bismark, ND
    29-Winnipeg, Manitoba
    
    May:
    1-Saskatoon, Sask.
    2-Edmonton, Alberta
    3-Calgary, Alberta
    5-Vancouver, BC
    7-Yakima, WA
    9-Reno, NV
    10-San Francisco, CA
    11-Fresno, CA
    
    
19.1008NETCAD::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedThu Feb 06 1997 17:467
Wow, these guys are really milking the tour!  If people are buying tickets,
I guess they're giving em what they want!

I wonder what Kulick and the other guy think?  Is it true that they're
history, and the "old" band is the "new" band?

adam
19.1009Destroyer in Fitchburg..Saturday night!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Feb 07 1997 08:539
    ...well, I guess you could use the word "milking"...although
    they DID announce it as a 2 year tour.....anyway, another KISS trubute
    band comes to the Massachu-chu area...."Destroyer" comes to
    C.R. Goodies in Fitchburg Saturday night....anyone see this band yet?
    I'm gonna check 'em out (hell, I live in Leominster)....
    
    anyone wanna plan a get-together for Saturday?
    
    mac
19.1010BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsFri Feb 07 1997 10:361
    Cool! Got directions to this place from NH.
19.1011You Just Keep Talkin' LouderABACUS::FORTIN_CNew England Patriots, AFC Champs!Fri Feb 07 1997 11:0815
    
    
    A friend of mine saw "Destroyer" at the Rocky Point Paladium and
    said they had the full show, fire, blood, bombs etc... and they
    played for over two hours.  They did everything you'd expect them
    to do and if I remember correctly, he told me they even threw in a
    few curveballs.  Specifically, Mr. Speed & All the Way.
    					       ^^^^^^^^^^^
    					       ^^^^^^^^^^^
    					    Great, Great Tune!!
    
    I wasn't there, so don't quote me.
    
    
    	CF
19.1012Cold Gin?AKOMI2::OROURKEY did U come down to a world so cold?Fri Feb 07 1997 11:1512
    
    RE: .1006
    
    SueJ,
    
    How was "Cold Gin"?  Believe it or not I worked with the drummer at
    Spooky World this year.  Really nice guy and he even dressed up in his
    full outfit for Halloween night!   I've been meaning to go see them
    play sometime.
    
    /jen
    
19.1013BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsFri Feb 07 1997 12:456
    Cold Gin were awesome! They are great guys... They partyed at my
    place after the gig...
    
    Was it Chico? or the former drummer ?
    
    SueJ
19.1014ABACUS::FORTIN_CNew England Patriots, AFC Champs!Fri Feb 07 1997 13:133
    
    
    SueJ - You listening to the radio?
19.1015BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsFri Feb 07 1997 13:472
    
    Yea- But not on ROCK one oh one....  I missed it huh ?
19.1016ABACUS::FORTIN_CNew England Patriots, AFC Champs!Fri Feb 07 1997 13:573
    
    
    Yup, you "Hard Luck Woman".
19.10178(BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsFri Feb 07 1997 14:081
    It figures! THe song they wrote for me!!! 
19.1018SaturdayABACUS::FORTIN_CNew England Patriots, AFC Champs!Fri Feb 07 1997 14:1512
    
    
    .1009
    
    
    mac - I'll be there if I don't go to watch the "You-Know-Who"
    play on Saturday afternoon in the ole Fleece.....
    
    ....if ya got some general directions post 'em!!
    
    
    CF
19.1019here ya go....ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Feb 07 1997 15:1614
    ...well, I'm coming from the city next door (Leominster), so I won't
    give you that direction; however, take Route 2 (west) towards
    Leominster; take exit 31 (Route 13)...take a right after the exit;
    follow Rte. 13 for ~ 5 miles; this comes to an intersection of
    Rte. 13 and Rte. 2A (Walmart is straight ahead at this intersection);
    take a left at this stop sign/intersection; now U are on Rte. 2A;
    follow Rte. 2A for ~ 1/2 mile...C.R Goodies is on the left (i think!)
    at the Thunderbird parking lot...phone # is 345-4477....
    
    hope this is acurate and hope it helps....
    
    (p.s.  CF..save yer dough, watch "you know who" on FOX 25 instead!)
    
    mac
19.1020I'd Rather See the BeanPot on Monday!ABACUS::FORTIN_CNew England Patriots, AFC Champs!Fri Feb 07 1997 15:2210
    
    
    
    ......."you know who" will be a free ride if it comes
    through...and hockey is hockey, after all.
    
    Thanks for the guidance to the club
    
    
    CF
19.1021ABACUS::FORTIN_CNew England Patriots, AFC Champs!Fri Feb 07 1997 15:496
    
    
    
    .......mac, I forgot to mention, I think I still owe ya a few
    cold ones so look for the young guy who thinks he's
    Peter Forsberg.......CF
19.1022ABACUS::FORTIN_CNew England Patriots, AFC Champs!Mon Feb 10 1997 11:363
    
    
    SueJ - I didn't see ya there?
19.1023BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsMon Feb 10 1997 11:443
    
    
    Didnt go,, 8(
19.1024One of These Days You'll Push Me All the WayABACUS::FORTIN_CNew England Patriots, AFC Champs!Mon Feb 10 1997 12:169
    
    
    
    It was an excellent show, they sounded real good.  Played
    a lot of stuff from Hotter Than Hell you wouldn't expect to
    hear.........only $5.00 cover, beers were pretty cheap, KISS
    music - good overall evening...
    
    	CF
19.1025"Gene" almost burned down the place!!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Mon Feb 10 1997 12:414
    ....yup!  GREAT show!  I even got to buy "Ace Frehley" a beer!
    And nice meeting you, CF....had a great time that night!
    
    mac
19.1026Must've Been the Shot(s)!ABACUS::FORTIN_CNew England Patriots, AFC Champs!Mon Feb 10 1997 13:459
    
    
    
    mac.....we'll have to do it again soon, it was a blast.
    ........tough headache came my way on Sunday morning, though!
    
    
    
    		CF
19.1027ABACUS::FORTIN_CThere Ain't No Life NowhereFri Feb 14 1997 13:124
    
    
    Tickets go on sale (yet again) today at 4:00 PM
    for the Providence show.....March 23rd.
19.1028BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsFri Feb 14 1997 13:1310
    Tickets went on sale today at 10am for Springfield Civic Center.
    March 22nd,,, Saturday...
    
    Got mine !
    
    Anyone know where I can see the seating for the Springfield?
    
    thanks!
    
    SueJ
19.1029here ya goPOOKY::OROURKEY did U come down to a world so cold?Fri Feb 14 1997 13:3112
    
    Suej,
    
    Try the Ticketmaster Web page.  
    
    http://www.ticketmaster.com/
    
    more specifically
    
    http://www.ticketmaster.com:80/directory/venues/ny2/130/
    
    /jen
19.1030CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandFri Feb 14 1997 14:2818
AAF had someone on today who was given 60 seconds to convince her
husband/boyfriend to come home for a valentine's day quickie.   He didn't know
he was on the air.  If she convinced him to do it they'd win Kiss tickets.

Before they called him, she asked if she could change house to van because he
lives too far away.  Greg Hill says yes, although he thought that would make it
more difficult for her.


Phone call:

She - hi honey I was wondering if we could meet today at lunch for valentines
      day.  Then we could have a quickie in the van

He - okay

total time - like 5 seconds...

19.1031BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsFri Feb 14 1997 15:373
    
    
    Cool!
19.1032:^)WONDER::REILLYSean Reilly, Alpha Servers, DTN 223-4375Fri Feb 14 1997 15:423
    
    Were they expecting objections?
    
19.1033CADSYS::FENNELLNothing is planned by the sea and the sandFri Feb 14 1997 16:442
Um, oh yeah, the van was a work truck.  Like a delivery van or something.

19.1034BSS::MANTHEIMy wife is jealous of MS.DOSFri Feb 14 1997 17:122
    And?
    
19.1035BSS::MANTHEIMy wife is jealous of MS.DOSFri Feb 14 1997 17:133
    I could see it taking 60 seconds if she wanted to do it in the glove
    compartment.... but the van?   Hey, that's luxury.
    
19.1036BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsMon Feb 17 1997 13:107
    "Destroyer"  KIZZ Tribute Band
    
    March 7th, 1997 Friday
    Salty Dog
    Elm St
    Manchester, NH
    
19.1037more "Destroyer"ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Sat Mar 01 1997 11:367
    ..."Destroyer" is also playing C.R Goodies (Fitchburg) again
    on March 15th...they were GRRRRREAT last time I saw them there...
    'specially "Gene"...man, I thought he wuz gonna burn down the place!
    
    FWIW.
    
    mac
19.1038ABACUS::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsSat Mar 01 1997 14:211
    Mac are you gonna head up here !?
19.1039yes, indeedy!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Mon Mar 03 1997 10:408
    ...YUP!  
    
    Howz about getting a HM Noters get-together?
    
    I *know* I'm fairly new to this notesfile.....but I know how ta pahty
    pretty damn good!  I'll confim this date as it gets closer...
    
    mac
19.1040BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsMon Mar 03 1997 11:006
    Up Here as in NH.....
    
    They are playing here friday night...
    
    
    SueJ
19.1041opps!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Tue Mar 04 1997 10:203
    ...Oooops!  Sorry SueJ....nope, I waiting for Fitchburg....sorry!
    
    mac
19.1042POWDML::BUCKLEYWed Mar 12 1997 16:251
    Filthaaaa!
19.1043BRAT::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsWed Mar 12 1997 16:381
    KIZZ ME....
19.1044Kerrection on the "Destroyer" showASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Mar 14 1997 09:0016
    "....'scuse me, while I KIZZ the sky!"
    (wam-bam-bam, wam-bam, bam)
    
    That was my spoken-word interpretation of Jimi Hendrix's guitar line,
    pretty cool, huh?
    
    
    
    ANYWAY, "Destroyer" is playing TONIGHT, not Saturday, at C.R
    Goodies....and with da ice & snow coming my way, I probably won't 
    make it....drinkin' & icin' don't mix (unless they're in a glass..)
    
    jest wanted to repost the kerrect date...
    
    
    fried_day mac
19.1045Back in the New England GrooveABACUS::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows.....Thu Mar 20 1997 15:3114
    
    
    Well, after a long absence ;-)  KISS has returned to the area
    for some weekend shows in New England....Friday night in
    Connecticut, Sat. in Springfield and Sunday night down in
    Providence.....
    
    		......anyone going (besides me)
    
    According to the Otaku.....tix are still available for all
    the shows although I doubt there's any good seats left.
    
    
    	CF
19.1046BUSY::SLABEnjoy what you doThu Mar 20 1997 15:474
    
    	I'm sure there's a bunch of people going besides you.  I mean, it'd
    	be a waste for them to do a show for just you, don't you think?
    
19.1047ABACUS::JENNISONAngels Guide Me From The CloudsThu Mar 20 1997 16:033
    C... Ill be in Springfield on Sat... and you ?
    
    SueJ
19.1048Oh Yeah?ABACUS::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows.....Thu Mar 20 1997 16:0913
    
    .1046 - OK, I deserved that....
    
    
    
    SueJ - I'm planning on going but I don't have tickets yet.
    Hopefully I can get some there - it'd be a tough ride not to
    get them....
    
    		....I'll definatly be in Providence on Sunday   :-)
    
    
    CF
19.1049N-Joy it, CF!ASDG::MCNAMARAstrange visitor......Fri Mar 21 1997 12:218
    ....Hey Cf....N-Joy the show!  Gotta luv this renwewed interest in
    KIZZ again, although they seeem to be milking it for all they got....
    I grew up on a steady diet of KIZZ shows (from '74-'79), and am really
    getting off on this, seeing a whole new generation of fans going
    to their 1st Original lineup KIZZ show.....ahhhh, the 70's....
    I can almost smell the patchouli now......
    
    mac
19.1050Bonjour!ABACUS::FORTIN_CWorked the Bars &amp; Sideshows.....Fri Mar 21 1997 15:238
    
    
    thanks, mac.....I'll give it the old college try   8^)
    
    .......I hope the ladies up at C--- S---- S--  treat you right!
    
    
    	CF