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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Thu May 05 1988
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466.0. "Mystic Powers" by BUSY::SLABOUNTY (Lookatthehogansonher!!) Mon Oct 05 1992 10:00

    
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466.1Press releaseVCSESU::MOSHER::COOKMosh!Mon May 20 1991 14:4697
466.2VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKMosh!Mon May 20 1991 17:578
    
    Our second demo is done except one song which will be done next week.
    I'm going to listen to it tonight, and if it's good, Chris will help
    me with the tape duplication. I'm just going to do some fast copies
    for H_M, and then the demo will be duplicated onto pro quality
    cassettes.
    
    /prc
466.3Vocalist wanted...VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKMosh!Tue May 21 1991 15:399
    
    Mystic Powers is now accepting auditions for vocalists. We have all the
    equipment and we have ALOT of fast and heavy original material. Song 
    writing ability is not needed, the bassist and I write all the lyrics 
    and music but the ability would help obviously. We have alot of gigs 
    coming up!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    If you'ld like to give it a shot or you know someone who would like to
    try out, send mail to VCSESU::COOK or call DTN 297-6936. 
466.4CAVLRY::ROBREvery breath a static chargeWed May 22 1991 00:553
    
    What happened to seasoned veteran Keith Poulin?  :')
    
466.5VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKMosh!Wed May 22 1991 11:296
    
    Me and Steve "fired" him. We're looking for better quality and someone
    who has a better head on their shoulders and at least has a job. He 
    never would have been able to handle touring either.
    
    /prc
466.6VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKMosh!Wed May 22 1991 11:596
    
    Exactly. I didn't want him bringing the music down. I have two or three
    possibilities already, one of them being the former singer from
    Valraven who has a killer voice!
    
    /prc
466.7VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKMosh!Wed May 22 1991 13:0214
    
    Some of the covers we're doing...
    
    Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or Die
    			   - Milano Mosh
    
    Iron Maiden - Wrathchild
    		- Hallowed by thy name
    
    Twisted Sister - I want to rock
    
    Metallica - Seek and Destroy
    
    
466.8VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Jun 17 1991 14:2330
    
    	Here's the liner notes for the first demo. I have Gregg, Alan,
    	Jerry, and Chris D. down for copies. If you want one, send me
    	mail.
    
    
    	Mystic Powers - Life in the Fast Lane 1.
    
    	Bass - Steve Garry
    	Drums - Peter Cook
    	Guitar - John Lally
    	Vocals - Keith Poulin
    	
    	Bill Buckley on guitar for tracks 6 and 7.
    
    	1. Got You (in my sight)  Music and Lyrics by Steve Garry.
    
    	2. Invasion. Lyrics by Peter Cook. Music by Peter Cook, Steve Garry.
    
    	3. Uncongressional Mosh. Music and Lyrics by Steve Garry.
    
    	4. Armagedon. Lyrics by Peter Cook, Music by Steve Garry.
    
    	5. Eternal Sickness. Lyrics by Peter Cook, Music by Steve Garry
    
    	6. Armagedon (version 2), featuring Bill Buckley on Guitar.
    
    	7. Missing You, featuring Bill Buckley on Guitar. Music and Lyrics
    	   by Steve Garry.
    
466.9disclaimer!CAVLRY::BUCKsun beats down on the cold steel railsMon Jun 17 1991 14:469
    Bill Buckley performance note:
    
    While I'm honored two songs that my brief stint with M.P. appear on the
    demo, they were also the two songs I kind of flubbed in the studio, and
    never had the chance to fix!  Just FYI to all those listeners who go
    "this guy sux!"  ;^)
    
    Buck, who whished they had printed my efforts on Got You and
    Uncongressional Mosh on the demo (much better)
466.10RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEOwner of 4 vintage FendersMon Jun 17 1991 15:145
    Well, I've got some ancient JamVac tapes ... I would dare to say that
    even on a bad day, your playing wouldn't suck.  Reggae metal, what a
    concept !   8^)
    
    Scary
466.11VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Jun 17 1991 15:185
    
    re: .16
    
    we're currently trying to recover those tracks from the "archives"
    as soon as Eric gets off his butt! 8-)
466.12VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Jun 17 1991 15:5122
466.13I will wait till it hits the shops!HLDG00::SUTHERLANDI like my music ==fast and LOUD!Tue Jun 18 1991 06:097
    Congratulations Pete, and Buck of course.  I hope that this is the
    first step on the road to fame and disgusting wealth!
    
    
    
    
    GAZ
466.14It's a HIT!! :^)HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Tue Jun 18 1991 12:147
    I istened to the tape last night.  Good work.  The recording though
    isn't the greatest.  I hope it's the stereo you used for dubbing and
    not the studio equipment's fault.  Mostly it was the volume level that
    kept changing that was the problem.  
    Is this singer the new or old singer??
    
    Chris D.
466.15VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathTue Jun 18 1991 12:353
    
    Old singer! Yeah the volume was a problem. It's the machine I dubbed
    on.
466.16HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Tue Jun 18 1991 14:536
    Well, can I borrow the original to dub a good copy of for that place I
    was telling you about?  Or are you planning on doing more on a
    different machine.  I think the quality of the copy I have may give a
    bad impression.
    
    Chris D.
466.17VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathThu Jun 20 1991 15:512
    
    Oh yeah, we get a free video of our set out of this gig too!
466.18VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathThu Jun 20 1991 16:172
    
    One or two of 'em are coming out this weekend.
466.19HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Thu Jun 20 1991 16:295
    Let me borrow the video so I can copy it for my daughters.  I can make
    a few copies from it for ya (no high speed dubing, so it could take
    awhile).
    
    Chris D.
466.20You better spin your sticks on the video18*)COMET::FRISBYATEN YEARS GONEThu Jun 20 1991 18:594
    Send videos too!!!
    
                     Frizkid
    
466.21VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathThu Jun 20 1991 19:024
    
    re: .35
    
    I can on Missing You. The other songs are WAY too fast to do it.
466.228*),8*),8*),8*)!!!!!!COMET::FRISBYASend$$forthePOISONfundThu Jun 20 1991 19:159
     
     Can ya toss and twirl?
    
       Can you do back flips?
    
           Can you jump over your set in the splits?
    
                Frizkid
    
466.23VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathThu Jun 20 1991 19:176
    
    	Nope! I can spin wicked and can toss 'em. Problem is
    	catching 'em. 8-)
    
    	Thing is, our music is so damn fast sometimes, just trying
    	to stay conscious is a feat in itself!
466.24VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathThu Jun 20 1991 19:213
    
    I just got mail from a guy at Carleton University in Ottawa Ontario
    Canada! He wants a copy of the tape to play on the radio!
466.25VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKFalk in AtholMon Jun 24 1991 13:027
    
    Yo! If anyone wants to catch an early viddy of the band before
    Wednesday, you're invited to practice tonight at Mystic Power's
    dungeon in Clinton. If'n ya want to come down, send me mail at
    VCSESU::COOK and I'll give ya directions.
    
    /prc
466.26VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowThu Jun 27 1991 13:479
    
    Well, the gig was a total success last night. We got an incredible 
    audience response. I was amazed!! We didn't win the door money,
    but personally I'd rather be playing weekends than defending on
    Wednesday nights!
    
    Watch this space, we'll definitely be playing there again. Danimal's
    sister (who books the gigs) said we smoked!
    
466.27VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowThu Jun 27 1991 13:597
    
    	Another thing...One of our friends, a wicked fan of the band
    	has come into some serious money and wants to invest some
    	serious $$$$ into the band. This could mean some sessions
    	at Longview Farms and a CD!!
    
    	Psyche!
466.28Uncongresional Mosh!POWDML::GOLDBERGthe stakes are high and so am IThu Jun 27 1991 15:5113
    
    
    I don't have a CD player!  8*(  How about a better recording of the
    demo tape???
    
    Which I listened to for the first time last night.  It kicks pretty
    good!!
    
    Now, is this the OLD singer?  My only minor complaint is that he sounds
    a little harsh...
    
    
    Goddess F.
466.29VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowThu Jun 27 1991 16:376
    
    I'm really psyched about financial backing. This dude has an
    underground spring on his land and Poland Springs wants to buy
    it.
    
    /prc
466.30HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Thu Jun 27 1991 17:147
    Financial backing = profit sharing.  What's the cut going to be?? 
    Don't screw yourselves.
    
    How is Poland Springs going to move his underground spring to Maine?
    :^)
    
    Chris D.
466.31VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowThu Jun 27 1991 17:153
    
    We have to figure that one out. We'll go to a good industry lawyer
    and see. 
466.32VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowThu Jun 27 1991 17:342
    
    Yo Alan Starr! Can you ad any light on financial backing stuff?
466.33more like bend over and take it like a man!CAVLRY::BUCKsun beats down on the cold steel railsThu Jun 27 1991 17:363
    Light??
    
    Basically, you don't get somthing for nothing!!!
466.34VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowThu Jun 27 1991 17:428
    
    He's flexible, and extremely cool. I've been in this situation
    before when I was in Challenger and we turned that guy down 
    'cause me and Steve didn't trust him. This guy is a totally 
    different story.
    
    We definitely won't get something for nothing. He would want
    a return on his investment. 10%? 15? 20?
466.35off the cuff ideas....QRYCHE::STARRSpontaneity has its time and place.Thu Jun 27 1991 18:0641
> Yo Alan Starr! 

Yo Pete!

I never dealt directly with any financial backing stuff, but just some (maybe 
obvious guidelines):

1. Rule #1, and I'm sure you know it - never sign ANYTHING (or even agree 
   verbally to anything!) without talking to a lawyer about it. It can cost
   you $$$ now, but save you a lot more in the long run!

2. Suggestion - try to set up a pay-back of his exact investment (and have him
   carefullly document all monies spent), with an appropriate percentage 
   profit going to him. In other words, I'd rather use him as a bank and pay 
   it back at 20% interest, as opposed to signing away copyrights and stuff 
   like that (which could be worth a lot more in the long run). But then 
   again, if the band folds, you still owe money (whereas if you trade the
   copyrights for $$$, you won't lose any cash if the band folds).

3. See what he wants a percentage of - is it sales royalties? Merchandising?
   (May no be much now, but most metal bands make more from merchandising
   than from touring or album sales!) Tour/gig money? Rights to use the band 
   name? Rights to the recordings? Rights to the songwriting? In other words, 
   find out exactly and specifically what he can and cannot do, in return for 
   his investment.

   (On the same note, make sure any signing deals are exclusive to the US,
    not worldwide. You never know.....better to be safe than sorry....)

4. Is it a one-time deal, or will there be continous financial support? You'd
   hate to get cash now, then run out, and have to sign another deal for more
   cash and give up more than you already have! (Or conversely, plan on that - 
   say you don't mind giving up 50% of the roylaties in trade for finance, I'd
   say give up 25% now, and hold back 25% for future financial support.)

Just a couple points off the top of my head that I can think of. If I come up
with any more, I'll send ya mail or post them here....

alan

P.S. Didn't get my tape yet! AcK!!!  8^}
466.36VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowThu Jun 27 1991 18:1715
    
    re: -1
    
    Thanks for the inputs. I have a real good idea now of what we want
    to set up.
    
    The tapes scheduled to go out were confiscated by Steve and sent 
    to clubs. This weekend I'm going to do about 20 of them. I'm picking
    them up today after work and will be doing the dubbing either
    tommorrow night or Saturday and then send 'em out. I've got
    a bunch to send out to colleges from UCLA to Nebraska to MIT
    also.
    
    It'll be a four song demo with Armageddon, Invasion, Missing You,
    and one other on it.
466.37POWDML::GOLDBERGthe stakes are high and so am IFri Jun 28 1991 11:373
    
    
    And Ungressional Mosh!!!
466.38VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowFri Jun 28 1991 12:1019
    
    re: -1
    
    Yep, that'll be on it too.
    
    Here's the list of people I have tapes going to. If you're not
    on it and want to get one, let me know.
    
	Mike Heiser		Jim Zappia
	Shawn Labounty		Frizdude
	Matt Bagdy		Jim Whitman
	Greg House		Jerry White
	Alan Starr		Chris Denopoulous
    
    	I'll have 15 copies done by tommorrow, or maybe even tonight.
    	WendyO, do you want a copy?
    
    	BTW, we got the Sir Morgan's Cove gig on video tape (the club
    	does it for every band). I'm gonna check it out this weekend!
466.39Your remote roadie from he|| !BTOVT::BAGDY_MTop Fuel Dragster = Serious HM !Fri Jun 28 1991 12:516
        Thanks Pete  !   Also, lemme know if you guys ever do make it
        up this way.   I'll be one of the first there, if not helping
        you unload ! :^)
        
        METALord"'
466.40VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowFri Jun 28 1991 13:025
    
    re: -1
    
    Are they still doing the all ages show at the teen center in
    Burlington?
466.41BTOVT::BAGDY_MTop Fuel Dragster = Serious HM !Fri Jun 28 1991 13:2915
        I'll have  to  check  on  `242 Main', but there's a new place
        that just opened  up,  dedicated to REAL bands that play Rock
        (not sure if it's  18+  or  not).  The music scene started to
        get so depleted up here  that  most  bands  don't bother with
        bars anymore.  This place is  called  `KD  Churchills' and is
        where the old `Texas' bar  was.   (Was `The Red Dog' prior to
        being  `Texas'.) Their number isn't listed in the phone  book
        yet, but I'll get that one for you as well.   Apparently from
        what  the  paper  said, they're doing well for being opened a
        little less than two months.
        
        Either way, I'll let you know. . .
        
        METALord"'
466.42VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 01 1991 11:012
    
    Hey Shawn, howz about a review?
466.43VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 01 1991 11:172
    
    Also, let me know how Wrathchild and Speak English or Die came out!
466.44MILKWY::SLABOUNTYWould you like a McDolphin, sir?Mon Jul 01 1991 11:4237
    
    	Well, Pete called me Saturday morning [it's a DAMN good thing I
    	had already gotten up!!  8^)]  to tell me they had been booked
    	at the last minute for Saturday, so I kept half of my promise
    	and went to see them.  Of course, I wanted to see them anyways,
    	so it's not like I had to force myself to go.
    
    	They went on at about 9:30 or so, and started with a very Iron-
    	Maiden sounding instrumental [what was that?].  It was a very
    	good intro to a very good set.  Included were:
    
    	"Speak English or Die" - SOD
    	"Wrathchild" - Iron Maiden
    	"Armageddon"
    	"Time to Die"
    	"Uncongressional Mosh"
    
    	and others which I can't remember.  The lead singer [to me] was
    	very similar to Testament's lead singer, but I could hear a good
    	portion of the words from this guy.  The bassist was very good,
    	and seemed to hold up well even to Steve Harris' bass lines.  The
    	guitarist smoked ... his fingering was even better than Tony Cam-
    	uso's, who I used to love to watch.  And Pete did a darn good job
    	on drums.
    
    	The set was a very thrashy collection of songs.  But even though
    	it was extremely heavy, alot of the vocals could be heard, and
    	you all know how much I value that.  [And if you don't, I like
    	that very much ... it's useless to have vocals if they can't be
    	heard through the rhythm section.]
    
    	In short, go see these guys if you can.  A good collection of
    	musicians all playing together to produce enjoyable music.
    
    							GTI
    
     
466.45MILKWY::SLABOUNTYWould you like a McDolphin, sir?Mon Jul 01 1991 11:439
    
    	Oh yeah:
    
    	Although I don't know if I've ever heard "Wrathchild" or "Speak
    	English or Die", I did like them Saturday night.  I'd probably
    	like the originals better, but they sounded great.
    
    							GTI
    
466.46VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 01 1991 12:139
    
    Thanks dude!
    
    The drums sounded killer that night!
    
    I'll post any future dates.
    
    I have about 8 tapes done. As soon as I get the inserts done they'll
    be sent out.
466.47VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 01 1991 17:106
    
    re: Shawn
    
    The name of the instrumental intro is none other than "Mystic Powers".
    
    /prc
466.48VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowTue Jul 02 1991 15:485
    
    The j-cards are done [nothing special but the they look good. Thank you
    Xerox. 8-)]
    
    Tapes shipped out tommorrow!
466.49VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowTue Jul 02 1991 17:577
    
    Oh BTW, I'm covering the cost of the tapes and the shipping.
    Donations are welcome though. My address is in the card exchange
    note. The tapes were $1.49 a peice and the shipping will probably
    be around $1.something.
    
    /prc
466.50VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 08 1991 11:0012
    
    Future dates:
    
    Sunday July 14, DECjam at the Elks in Hudson. We go on at 11:30am.
    
    Sunday July 21, Edible Rex in Billerica, Ma. Metal night. We go on
    second. Discount tix will be sent out for this show!
    
    We checked out Long View Farms the other day. Either next month or
    in September we will be doing a 24 track recording there. We'e going
    to do the residential deal at 750.00 a day. I found out that the
    Bad Brains and Grim Reaper did albums there! The place is incredible!
466.51100 Repliez!!!! (was: Check this out ASAP!!)CAVLRY::BUCKDinn/Summers divorced -- film @ 11!Mon Jul 08 1991 12:2615
    >We checked out Long View Farms the other day. Either next month or
    >in September we will be doing a 24 track recording there. We'e going
    >to do the residential deal at 750.00 a day. I found out that the
    >Bad Brains and Grim Reaper did albums there! The place is incredible!
    
    Pete...
    
    Before you sign anything, PLEASE check out Blue Jay Recording in
    Carlisle, MA!!!
    
    IMveryHO they blow Long View totally out of the water!!  They have ALL
    the top notch equipment and good engineers to boot.  They have done
    several metal albums there, and know how to get a heavy sound.  Check
    it out, I know they price comparitvely to Long View as well.  Less $$$
    too if you do session from midnight til 6am.
466.52VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 08 1991 12:295
    
    re: -1
    
    We'll definitely check that out. Thanks for the info. Do they 
    have live-in packages like Longview?
466.53check it out!CAVLRY::BUCKDinn/Summers divorced -- film @ 11!Mon Jul 08 1991 12:429
    >We'll definitely check that out. Thanks for the info. Do they 
    >have live-in packages like Longview?
    
    I believe they have "package rates" for extended sessions (ie,
    album projects, etc.), but one thing they don't have like Longview
    are places to crash (aka hotel rooms).  Longview is like a hotel with a
    recording studio...Blue Jay is just one serious f'in recording studio.
    BUT, since it's right on Rt. 225 in Carlisle, it's easy to come and go
    from there (a 5 minute drive from 495/110/62/and rt 27!).
466.54VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 08 1991 13:436
    
    Oh yeah, the other cool thing about LVF is they don't charge any
    different between 16 and 24 track so we can go 24 track without
    spending more money.
    
    I'll give BJS a call and see what they charge.
466.5548 tracks...and AUTOMATED!CAVLRY::BUCKDinn/Summers divorced -- film @ 11!Mon Jul 08 1991 14:142
    Well, fwiw I don't think Blue Jay carges any more to go from 24 to 48
    tracks!!  They have the equipment, I guess you supply the 2" tape.
466.56VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowFri Jul 12 1991 16:1912
    
    Tapes have been sent to the following people:
    
    Mike Heiser, Shawn labounty, Matt bagdy, Greg House, Jerry White, 
    Chris Denopoulous (already has it), and April Threlfall.
    
    Greg, you have our permission to make copies for Jesse and Frizdude.
    Just put the copyright notice on 'em. It'll save me money and tapes.
    
    I'll also be bringing a few to the party in case people want 'em.
    
    
466.57LUDWIG::LETHIENCan't think of one yet???Sun Jul 14 1991 16:456
    
      Just got back from the DECjam.......Well.....
    
      Hmmmm....Nothing much to say then.
    
    Tle
466.58CAVLRY::BUCKGIANT!Mon Jul 15 1991 14:081
    So, I take it Tle didn't like the gig?!?
466.59VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 15 1991 14:135
    
    I guess not. Can't please everyone, ya know?. We did get alot of good 
    comments about the show, even from people that didn't like metal AT ALL.
    
    I was real surprised. Even had a few locals come down to see us.
466.60VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 15 1991 14:373
    
    Hey Buck, he might not have appreciated the Stormtoopers of Death tune 
    we did. 8-)
466.61VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 15 1991 17:375
    
    When you folks get the tape, make sure and throw in a review. Trust
    me, I can take bad news well. 8-)
    
    /prc
466.62that's a promiseDPDMAI::THRELFALLOverwhelming Euphoric LiftMon Jul 15 1991 17:481
    I will give my un-biased, objective, honest opinion.
466.63MILKWY::SLABOUNTYWould you like a McDolphin, sir?Mon Jul 15 1991 18:1422
    
    	I already gave you an overall review yesterday, but I'll repeat it
    	here, and add a couple comments.  After 1 listen through, the music
    	sounds good.  That is, the mix is good, the instruments sound good,
    	and you guys know how to play them.
    
    	BUT, the sound quality of my copy [and probably the rest too] is
    	not great.  Dropouts in a couple places, volume difference bet-
    	ween sides [which you explained to be caused by different record-
    	ing mechanisms].  You don't want to give a copy of this one to a
    	person who could possibly give you some exposure, because I don't
    	think you'd appreciate the publicity you'd garner from this.  [And
    	this is one of the only places where bad publicity IS bad public-
    	ity ... when you're trying to get started.  8^)]
    
    
    	And BTW - is "Missing You" on there so that you can get on the MTV
    	playlist and get all the ballad-loving teeny-boppers to buy your
    	albums?  8^)
    
    							GTI
    
466.64VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowMon Jul 15 1991 18:198
    
> the sound quality 
    
	That's why we're going to do a 24 track recording. 
        
> "Missing You" 
    
    	Of course! 8-)
466.65HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Tue Jul 16 1991 12:0811
    I thought the recording was much better than the 1st attempt.  I
    couldn't pay much attention to the songs on the 1st tape 'cause the
    poor recording was too distracting.  This time around, I've listened
    about 20 times so far.  Like I said in the mail message, I was
    impressed.  There was only one part of one song that I didn't care for
    too much.  That was when the guitarist started his lead a few seconds
    into Uncongressional Mosh (was that the name?).  The beat suddenly
    dropped off to a "drag".  My wife thought there was something wrong
    with the tape.  That may have been an intensional effect.
    
    Chris D. waiting_for_Sunday's_show.
466.66VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowTue Jul 16 1991 12:113
    
    Yep, it was intentional. It was my idea. It's supposed to throw ya off
    so I guess it worked. 8-)
466.678^)DPDMAI::THRELFALLOverwhelming Euphoric LiftTue Jul 16 1991 12:3914
    Peter, got the demo yesterday! 
    
    Overall I was impressed...I've only listened to it twice and it sorta
    grows on ya...of course Demo's NEVER do any band justice if you asked
    me.
    
    IMVVHO the only thing that really needs improvement is the vocals.  The
    drums were tight as he11 and the guitar sounded really good despite the
    quality of the recording.  I freaked on how thrashy it was...knew it
    wouldn't be poseur, but MAN!  I really like Invasion...so far it's my
    favorite tune on the tape.
    
    Ya'll will definitely benefit from writing more material...
    
466.68VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowTue Jul 16 1991 13:444
    
    re: -1
    
    Glad you like it!
466.69RAVEN1::JERRYWHITERebel without applause ...Tue Jul 16 1991 23:5510
    The long awaited review ....
    
    I think someone else already mentioned the fact that most demos never
    do the band justice, and I think that hits the nail DEAD on the head
    here.  I like the songs, but there's some serious gaps - not because
    the music/talent isn't there, it's just that it didn't make it to the
    tape.  Side 1 (with the Buckmeister) is my favorite.  The quality is
    better and Buck's style fills up a lotta holes.
    
    Scary 
466.70mi dos pesosHAVASU::HEISERGTS fahvernugenWed Jul 17 1991 15:5010
    My tape arrived (thanks Pete!) yesterday and I've been listening to it
    since lunch yesterday (few times thru).  I agree with most as far as
    the tape quality and talent representation go.  I still enjoyed it
    though.  I'm not a real thrasher type, but I think I liked "Invasion"
    the best.  I got a chuckle out of "Uncongressional Mosh" too (not sure
    if that's the reaction you're looking for ;-)).  
    
    Buck sounded a little tame compared to "Fallen Angel" ;-)
    
    just kidding dude, you were playing to suit the music.
466.71IMVHO, naturallyGOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Wed Jul 17 1991 15:5337
    Ok, I got my tape today, so I'll post my review...

    Overall:  Good!  Much better quality then the last tape you sent me,
    Pete.  I like the first side better then the second, but this may be
    due in a large part to the fact that the sound quality is better, but I
    also think I like the songs better.  In any case, this one is
    definitely worth quite a few listens!  
    
    I think that all the songs on side 2 should be longer, they were too
    short for me to get into 'em.  

    I think Buck's guitar sound fits the band sound better then John's.  He
    leaves more space then John and it keeps the instruments from getting
    too muddy and mushed out sounding.  

    Tell John to get a Marshall and fix his EQ.  It sounds like he's using
    nasty stomp boxes for distortion it's bassy and muddy sounding with
    kind of a smooth buzz rather then a crunch, more of a solid state kind
    of sound in my mind.  I don't mind his lead sound (except that it's not
    loud enough) but his rhythm sound needs some work IMHO.  I think he's
    got too much low freq in his sound, it's tromping on the bass.  This
    could also be helped if Steve would use a punchier sound (which I
    personally think would help on all the songs).  Steve's got an
    interesting style, it's too bad you can't hear him most of the time...

    Whatever you did to Keith's voice on "Armageddon", DO IT AGAIN!  That's
    the song he sounds best on.  He's lost in the muddy mix on side 2.  I
    think a big part of this may be John's overwhelming guitar sound.  I
    don't particularly care for his ballad singing though, he's better as a
    screamer. 
     
    Pete's drum sound was pretty well captured on all the songs, good work.

    Buck, lose the harmonics on "Missing You", sounds like "Kiss And
    Tell"...
    
    Greg
466.72VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathWed Jul 17 1991 16:192
    
    Cool! Thanks mucho! Can't wait for the 24 track recording! 8-)
466.73CAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideWed Jul 17 1991 16:334
    RE: gh
    
    Harmonics are my life!  ;^)  'sides, what else are you s'pposed to do
    in metal ballards based in E minor?!?!?!?  ;^)
466.74VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathWed Jul 17 1991 16:428
    
    Greg,
    
    John uses a Marshall half stack with a 100 watt head (I believe).
    He's got one of those mega-sound boxes with the foot board like
    Buck used to have.
    
    /prc
466.75;^)CAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideWed Jul 17 1991 16:493
    -1
    
    methinks the keywords here are USED TO
466.76Beware the "ballards"!GOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Wed Jul 17 1991 16:5226
    re: Buck                                                           
    
>    Harmonics are my life!  ;^)  'sides, what else are you s'pposed to do
>    in metal ballards based in E minor?!?!?!?  ;^)
    
    I was only talking about the little open harmonic "melody" thing during
    the intro, the harmonic squeels were fine. It just sounded too much
    like "Kiss And Tell" (where I loved it) for me, but most people
    wouldn't have heard that one anyway.   8^)
    
    re: Pete
    
    On listening to the tape some more, the guys voice doesn't really sound
    that bad on the ballad.  I could live with it. 
    
    This tape grows on ya, I'm starting to like it more and more.  It'll be
    cool to hear this material done in a better studio with a good mix!
    
>    John uses a Marshall half stack with a 100 watt head (I believe).
>    He's got one of those mega-sound boxes with the foot board like
>    Buck used to have.
    
    Cool!  Sounds like he should lose the efx and run straight into the
    Marshall to me...
    
    gh (with two killer 50wt Marshall heads)
466.77CAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideWed Jul 17 1991 16:579
    >I was only talking about the little open harmonic "melody" thing during
    >the intro, the harmonic squeels were fine. It just sounded too much
    >like "Kiss And Tell" (where I loved it) for me, but most people
    >wouldn't have heard that one anyway.   8^)
    
    To be quite honest:
    
    a) I can't remember what I played there
    b) At the time, I can't remember doing anything that sounded like K&T
466.78VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathWed Jul 17 1991 17:014
    
    I've been trying to convince him to get rid of that stuff and just get
    a radical EQ, like the set up Buck has. It sounds Killa! I believe he's
    also getting the other 4x12
466.79LaterGOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Wed Jul 17 1991 17:0110
>    To be quite honest:
>    
>    a) I can't remember what I played there
>    b) At the time, I can't remember doing anything that sounded like K&T
    
    Haha!  What were *you* smokin??
    
    I'll call up after lunch and play it for you or something...
    
    gh (off to lunch)
466.80Maybe the engineer at the studio you use can convince him?GOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Wed Jul 17 1991 17:023
    Good going Pete, that'd be a good rig!
    
    gh (who wish's you luck)
466.81CAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideWed Jul 17 1991 17:078
    >I've been trying to convince him to get rid of that stuff and just get
    >a radical EQ, like the set up Buck has. It sounds Killa! I believe he's
    >also getting the other 4x12
    
    It's my opinoin that a 2nd cab helps with definition!
    
    Also, the EQ thing is cool for dialing in your own lil niche in the
    harmonic spectrum.  You can also get a real heavy sound with it.
466.82VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathWed Jul 17 1991 18:534
    
    Hey Scary, what do you mean by gaps? I don't understand...
    
    /prc
466.83How many?GOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Wed Jul 17 1991 21:127
    I think Jerry was talking about the recording quality... (but he can
    speak for himself).
    
    Hey Pete, I thought you said that there would be 8 songs on this, but
    there are only 5.  What gives?
    
    gh
466.84MILKWY::LEIwillmakethisearthturntobeaworldfuneralThu Jul 18 1991 02:5710
    Re. 156 
	
      > I was there and You asked if I'm in Metal file or not?
	
	   - Thien Le, Pete was asking me as same......... 
	     yours.  I didn't know Pete was playing drum in 
	     that band until Shawn (GTI) told me before you 
	     got there.  So you didn't like Pete's band huh?
	     
	-DLe
466.85BTOVT::BAGDY_MShe's a natural. . .Thu Jul 18 1991 09:4827
466.86VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathThu Jul 18 1991 12:174
    
    	There were going to be more songs but some of them got lost in
    	mix down and I refuse to have the guy who did this mix down do
    	another one!
466.87VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathThu Jul 18 1991 13:228
    
    re: .183
    
    For some reason, the tape dropped an octave or something. Hard to
    explain but I noticed it also, so did John. Trust me, we were in tune
    when we recorded it. Right Buck? 8-)
    
    /prc
466.88why ask why? Here's why!CAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideThu Jul 18 1991 13:4910
    RE: .183 & .185
    
    When I went in to do the guitar OD's, I tunes to the tape in the
    studio control room.  When I got out in the studio to OD, the
    PLAYBACK was very sharp!!!  I had to re-tune, which is not a good
    thing on an Ibanez with a floyd rose!!!  Needless to say, I could not
    quite get my guitar in tune with the playback tape (too sharp), and
    my action was about an inch off the fretboard, which made trying to
    play almost impossible!!  I was not a happy camper, but sometimes that
    sh*t happens!
466.89BTOVT::BAGDY_MShe's a natural. . .Thu Jul 18 1991 15:115
466.90oh wellCAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideThu Jul 18 1991 16:294
    -1
    
    On Missing You?  Yup...twas me, wrestling in the studio with an
    Ibanez_with_action_from_hell!
466.91VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathThu Jul 18 1991 16:383
    
    
    I think those harmonics sound COOL!!
466.92CAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideThu Jul 18 1991 16:461
    Thanx Pete
466.93VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathThu Jul 18 1991 16:533
    
    Actually I love the whole song. Especially how fluidly you did the
    chorus part!
466.94just goes to show...CAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideThu Jul 18 1991 17:042
    This statement will sound very foot-in-mouth, but playing Iron Maiden
    songs for 10 years helped me assimilate to playing that with such ease.
466.95HOT studio news...great sound for lessCAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideThu Jul 18 1991 17:0813
    OH YEAH...
    
    You were talking about studios a while back...
    
    Remember Steve Mallett from MUSIC notes???  He left DEC and has opened
    a brand-spankin-new 24tk studio.  Was there recently, tying up some
    business stuff for a project I'll be doing there.  Very competitive
    rates, excellent equipment, and they have Bob St. John working there
    (Extreme's engineer)!  I know I can't wait to get the NUNO guitar
    sound!!  ;^)
    
    Send mail for more details...
    
466.96If it is good, I will make sure EVERYBODY knows, same if it's bad!CAVLRY::ROBREvery breath a static chargeFri Jul 19 1991 05:3213
    
    
    Well, I have not as of yet requested a demo, but WHEN you are happy and
    WHEN there are no excises for a poor tape deck dub or audio
    engineer.... when you are completely happy with this demo and void of
    any  excuses as to why it might sound bad.... I wish a copy.
    
    Don't take this too hard or anything, I know you can take flak, it's
    just that when I head something, that's it... that's my impression and
    once I have one there's no second chance, so make sure it's good.
    
    - Rob 
    
466.97VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathFri Jul 19 1991 10:537
    
    re: -1
    
    As soon as we finish the 24 track recording and press the tapes I'll
    make sure you get one.
    
    /prc
466.98BTOVT::BAGDY_MShe's a natural. . .Mon Jul 22 1991 09:4613
466.99VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Jul 22 1991 12:0110
    
    I'd like to thank Mark and Chris for coming down to Edible Rex last
    night. We got a realy good video taping out of it and I'm glad Mark
    and Chris got to see us [What did you think?]. I'll be checking out
    the tape tonight. We also debuted another song I co-wrote called
    Slave to Insanity. That seemed to go well.
    
    Latest is we'll be playing Derringer's at some point. Details later.
    
    /prc
466.100SOURCE::WHITMANMon Jul 22 1991 12:036
    
    
    	They sound much better live....
    
    
    	JW - (who saw them play at the lobster/keg bash Saturday!)
466.101VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Jul 22 1991 12:214
    
    re: -1
    
    I didn't even see you! Glad you made it!
466.102SOURCE::WHITMANMon Jul 22 1991 12:337
    
    
    
    I did'nt know you guys where playin... then I heard some thrash
    in the distance, went to check it out and saw you! 
    
    Had a good time!
466.103Nice to meet you Mark!!!HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Mon Jul 22 1991 12:3926
    I thought all the songs sounded very tight, even the new one.  My wife,
    who doesn't really care for this music, liked 3 of the songs very much.
    They were that new one you did, the one about war (can't remember the
    name) and Missing you.  THat song, Missing you, I can't get out of my
    mind.  Ever since I heard it on the demo I keep finding myself humming
    it.
    The band played and looked very good last night.  I didn't care for
    some of the things the sound man was doing with the singer, but that's
    not your fault.  There were a few things I didn't like that had nothing
    to do with the songs, but had to do with the song intro's.  That bit
    about the "a lot of controversy" has to go (IMO).  People sorta
    chuckled an "Oh Brother!" type of chuckle when Kieth said that.  Also,
    the intro for the song for the troups is passe.  Everyones already done 
    it.  The song is great, forget that intro.  One more thing, let the
    singer introduce himself.  All this is just my opinion.  I have no
    negative comments about the songs.  There was a lot of precision
    between the members.  
    Like I said last night, if this was an all-ages show, we could have
    really packed the house.
    
    Chris D.
    
    p.s. The drums SMOKED!!!   
    I want a copy of the video.  After all, I have a yell in there somewhere 
    during the introductions.
    
466.104VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Jul 22 1991 12:594
    
    re: -1
    
    I definitely agree about the intros!
466.105Speak the languageBOSOX::MCLEMENTReady,ripe,and willingMon Jul 22 1991 13:2112
    
    re.-1,2
     
              I agree also on that.  I think it went good thou.....
              I loved S.O.D., I haven't heard that for a while.
              Lost my tape. 
    
              Hope next time I meet chris and pete I have 
              more time to chat........
    
                                                                Marko
    
466.106let me have it! 8-)VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Jul 22 1991 14:255
    
    Hey Jim, it was sicked hot under that tent, but what did you think of
    the material, etc...?
    
    /prc
466.107exABACUS::MATTHEWSWHATZ Goin ON !!!!!!!!!!!Mon Jul 22 1991 15:296
    
    
    
    		hey /prc sounds like you guys did good last night..
    
    i couldnt make it.. worknight and all..
466.108SOURCE::WHITMANMon Jul 22 1991 15:369
    
    
    		I liked most of the material.. just could'nt hear
    	any Bass.. the guitar seemed to overpower it a bit...
    
    	Like I said.. ALOT better live.. your demo does you know
    	justice!
    
    	
466.109HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Mon Jul 22 1991 16:083
    Now that you mention it, I did notice the bass volume was kinda weak.
    
    Chris D.
466.110VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Jul 22 1991 16:102
    
    Kinda funny considering Steve has a Marshall Bass stack! 8-)
466.111HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Mon Jul 22 1991 16:112
    You can have the largest amp in the world, but if you don't turn it
    up.......
466.112loose the pedalsCAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideMon Jul 22 1991 16:137
    - a few
    
    But Steve also uses that damn compressor, which flattens everything
    out to the max.
    
    Buck, who thinks Steve should LOOSE the pedals, plug straight in,
    crank up, and ROCK!
466.113VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Jul 22 1991 16:144
    
    Yeah, I had a feeling that the comp. had something to do with it.
    I'm halfway to convincing him to trade it in on a=n EQ. What do ya
    think?
466.114CAVLRY::BUCKc'mon baby lets go for a rideMon Jul 22 1991 16:153
    I don't thnk he needs it.  His amp has all the EQing he could ever want
    and  use!  Anything else, I think, would degreade the sound, and just
    add noise.
466.115JMHOBOSOX::MCLEMENTReady,ripe,and willingMon Jul 22 1991 18:027
    
    
     Tell him to pump up his mid range, your guitarist could use some
     to....
    
                                                Cut like a knife.
                               
466.116BTOVT::BAGDY_MShe's a natural. . .Tue Jul 23 1991 09:1814
466.117VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathTue Jul 23 1991 11:223
    
    One thing I'll never do is individual solos. We're going to change
    the intro to Armageddon too.
466.118HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Tue Jul 23 1991 12:268
    PRC,  My daughter had a fit at first when I told her to give the people
    at that club the demo tape.  You'd think I was taking away her MTV or
    something!!  :^)  Hope you can replace it, she loves that tape. 
    Besides, she'll need it for another place to listen too.
    
    How'd the video come out??  I'd love to see/record it.
    
    Chris D.
466.119VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathTue Jul 23 1991 12:295
    
    Came out really well. I can replace it, I'll come up again, and this
    time I'll be able to stay longer.
    
    /prc
466.120HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Tue Jul 23 1991 16:2818
    
>>    Came out really well. 
     
    Good, can't wait to see it.
    
>>    I can replace it, 
    
    O.K.  If I go out tonight maybe I'll pick up a couple of 60 minute
    blanks and dub and see how they come out.
    
>>    I'll come up again, and this time I'll be able to stay longer.
    
    Did you really have clothes to do last time or was it because it was
    100 degrees and I didn't have my A/C installed yet??  :^)   It's in now
    and cranking away.  Bring your bathing suit.  Anytime you want.  House
    is always open (except to my sister-in-law).  :^)
    
    Chris D.
466.121VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathTue Jul 23 1991 16:408
    
    
    Question time for those that have heard the tape or seen the show.
    
    If you could think of any band or bands that our music reminds you of
    or could best describe us, what would it/they be?
    
    /prc
466.122DPDMAI::THRELFALLTue Jul 23 1991 16:471
    metallica/iron maiden/megadeath/??
466.1238PXCUSME::JENNISONDoIn The RattleSnake ShakeTue Jul 23 1991 17:011
    Im not sure YET! 
466.124VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathTue Jul 23 1991 17:105
    
    Seriously! 8-)
    
    I need the inputs for the press kit for when I'm explaining what
    kind of music we do.
466.125CSC32::J_HERNANDEZTerminate her too.Tue Jul 23 1991 17:231
    I dunno Pete, I never heard you guys. If I ever do, I'll be honest.
466.126MILKWY::SLABOUNTYWould you like a McDolphin, sir?Tue Jul 23 1991 17:439
    
    	Well, I'll repeat that I think Keith[?] sounds alot like the voc-
    	alist from Testament, from the limited number of songs I've heard
    	from those guys.
    
    	The band, overall ... that's a tough one.  I can definitely hear
    	some Iron Maiden influence [especially in "Mystic Powers", IMO].
    
    							GTI
466.127VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathTue Jul 23 1991 18:396
    
    I was watching the video from Edible Rex last night. It's the first
    video where I can hear my double bass clearly. I couldn't believe it!
    Wow! It's really weird to hear something you've done. When you're
    doing it at the time everything seems in slow motion. When I saw/heard
    the tape I was happy! 8-)
466.128How was it Miked/Recorded different?WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnTue Jul 23 1991 20:354
    Pete,what do you think the reason was that you could hear the double-
    Bass better?
    
           Crazy_inquiring_recorders_want_to_know_Al
466.129VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathWed Jul 24 1991 12:088
    
    re: -2
    
    The videos that were done at Sir Morgan's Cove were done with the
    house cameras. It's mounted on the ceiling and the audio is done
    with two piezo mic's. The sound was terrible.
    
    This was done with a friends video camera. Sound was MUCH better.
466.130HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Thu Jul 25 1991 12:215
    
    Errrrrr......ahhhhhhh......wellllllllll......errrrrrr......the demo
    tape did not make it to Escape.  I'll send you mail later.
    
    Chris D.
466.131Advice!COMET::FRISBYAComeGetSomeYum?Thu Jul 25 1991 15:567
    PETE,
    
         Be SURE to hire an artist for your studio recorded album/tape/CD
    cover!!
    
                       Frizkid
    
466.132VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKSend mail to VCSESU::COOKThu Jul 25 1991 18:062
    
    Of course!
466.133Just checkin!COMET::FRISBYAComeGetSomeYum?Thu Jul 25 1991 19:588
      O.K......You were scarin' me.
    
                 What's the cover gonna look like then?
    
            Remember that your first impression with the AVERAGE consumer!
    
                       Frizkid
    
466.134my thoughtsCAVLRY::BUCKtear down the wallsThu Jul 25 1991 20:075
    I think the cover art should be a glad bag full of reefer (about 2 oz
    worth), with a piece of masking tape on the side of the bag which reads
    MYSTIC POWERS.  You can have pipes, papers, bongs, and other assorted
    paraphernalia lying around the bag for effect!
    
466.135VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKSend mail to VCSESU::COOKFri Jul 26 1991 11:4013
    
    YO! We (the Heavy Metal file) have a chance to totally rule a metal
    night at Ralph's in Worcester. I was talking to Mike Cramer last
    night who books the place. He loves our tape but don't have no other
    metal bands to do a metal night (it would be a Thursday). So he told
    me to find two other bands and we'll do it.
    
    SO...I need two other metal bands to do this. We could have H_M night
    at Ralph's! Jim? Mark? Anyone? What do ya say? All I need is to get
    your tapes to Mike. We can figure who wants to go on first, second, and
    last. We can split the money three ways, etc...
    
    WICKED chance here dudes! Let's do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
466.136Just a thoguht - why share the spotlight ??KDX200::COOPEROpinionated MIDI Rack PukeFri Jul 26 1991 16:523
Why doesn't Mystic Powers just do the whole show ??

jc
466.137VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKVAXmail -> VCSESU::COOKFri Jul 26 1991 16:563
    
    We can do two bands. We don't do enough cover material to do a 
    whole night and Ralph's doesn't work that way anyway...
466.138USOPS::GALLANTNice bookends!Tue Jul 30 1991 09:5711
    
    
    	Got to listen to the tape at JJ's on Saturday... from
    	what I could hear, I really enjoyed it.  It's been a long
    	time (gasp!) since I've really listened to my metal stuff
    	that it was a refreshing change!!!
    
    	I'm going to listen to it again, in my car, so I can
    	really give it a fair review.
    	
    	tigg~~
466.139JJLIET::JUDYBorn to be wild...Tue Jul 30 1991 11:309
    
    
    	Oh yeah!  I do remember paying a lot of attention to	
    	Missing You.  Even a couple of people who aren't even
    	close to being metalheads commented on the song.  Nice
    	work Pete!
    
    	JJ
    
466.140HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSYouGotTheRightOneBabyAhaAha!Tue Jul 30 1991 12:234
    My wife likes that song and she doesn't care for "that kind" of metal. 
    :^)
    
    Chris D.
466.141I WANT TO HEAR THIS TAPE!!!CAVLRY::BUCKtear down the wallsTue Jul 30 1991 12:494
    I forgot my tape at JJ's.  i had it in my hand for 10 minutes...Waaaaaaaa
    
    
    
466.142;^)GOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Tue Jul 30 1991 20:523
    But lose the harmonics from he11!
    
    gh
466.143VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKEngineer at LargeWed Jul 31 1991 12:0310
    
    Actually, I don't think John does those harmonics. I wish he did. 8-)
    
    Thanks for the reviews!
    
    We got asked to do 8/7 at Sir Morgan's, but the singer is away.
    We're a pubic hair close to booking a zillion shows, so I'll
    post 'em as they come in.
    
    /prc
466.144Watch it with the pubic hair comments, Frizzy don't like thatGOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Wed Jul 31 1991 19:486
>    Actually, I don't think John does those harmonics. I wish he did. 8-)
    
    I was just raggin on Buck, tell John to get his shit together!
    
    ;^)
    
466.145Couldn't really be objective.....COMET::FRISBYAComeGetSomeYum?Thu Aug 01 1991 12:556
    Pete,
    
           I did hear the tape......once.
    
                  Frizkid
    
466.146VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKEngineer at LargeThu Aug 01 1991 12:562
    
    Well? Not your style of music?
466.147I respect your songwriting though.COMET::FRISBYAComeGetSomeYum?Thu Aug 01 1991 13:1114
    I like songs that grab ya and with huge hook.......That's for me.
    
        It could be my style of music with some production and a better
    singer...?
    
          I did expect your tape to be faster.....
    
                      I really don't remember alot of it.....
    
             I remember the part at the end 
    "AND WE F*CKIN' MEAN IT" because it made me laugh.
    
                               Frizkid
    
466.148VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKEngineer at LargeThu Aug 01 1991 13:505
    
    We've been writing more tunez lately. Even faster and heavier than
    the early stuff!
    
    KILL!
466.149VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKEngineer at LargeTue Aug 06 1991 15:5416
    
    Like I was saying in 99.*, I'm doing a song that is based on classical
    concepts, as far as arrangement and composition. It could, in a way
    be classified as a heavy metal symphony and I will be calling it
    Symphony #1. Instead of making it into several songs or a whole
    album, I'm going to compress it down to a 15 to 20 minute song. So
    far it has 10 to 12 different parts, and I'm only half way through 
    it. There are several themes, one for each character or certain event
    in the story that will reoccur through out the song.
    
    What do you folks think about applying metal to semi-classical structure?
    My intention is to bring metal a step forward. I want to stop writing
    all my material the conventional way (blues based arrangement-wise) and
    start basing things on a different form.
    
    /prc
466.150Listen to Tony MacAlpine!COMET::FRISBYABeautiful YumTue Aug 06 1991 15:5911
      If you like it GO FOR IT!!
    
           It's going to be pretty hard to be orginal because alot of
    people have done the same thing!
    
                  If *YOU* believe in it and your hearts in it:
    
                         DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
                    Frizkid
    
466.151VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKEngineer at LargeTue Aug 06 1991 16:039
    
    Tony MacAlpine, Yngwie Malmsteen, and others have applied Classical
    music to Heavy Metal.
    
    I'm appying Heavy Metal to Classical in theory. 
    
    Major difference!
    
    /prc
466.152?GOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Tue Aug 06 1991 16:134
    Um, Pete?  I don't really understand the difference.  Could you
    describe what you mean?
    
    gh
466.153GOOOD LUCK!COMET::FRISBYABeautiful YumTue Aug 06 1991 16:2014
    Yea,
    
                Explain please!
    
                  PLenty of people put classical peices in their
    HEAVY METAL.
    
                 Are you playin around with the choclate and peanut butter?
    
                                Tryin' to get a different swirl?
    
    
                                Frizkid
    
466.154VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKEngineer at LargeTue Aug 06 1991 16:209
    
    Okay, I'll try. Yngwie brings in classical riffs into metal, but
    his song structure and whole way of going about writing is still
    rock based [verse a, bridge, chorus verse b, etc...]
    
    What I am doing is taking metal riffs and incorporating it into a 
    combination of classical and rock song structure.
    
    /prc
466.155VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKEngineer at LargeTue Aug 06 1991 16:382
    
    did that make sense?
466.156To each his own!COMET::FRISBYABeautiful YumTue Aug 06 1991 16:439
      Explain more in detail.......
    
                       I think i'm seeing the picture.
    
               If you tell us more....all of us musical whores(like JC)
    are going to steal all of you ideas!8*)
    
                        Frizkid
    
466.157bumpSOURCE::ZAPPIAEnter airbagTue Aug 06 1991 16:433
    
    	Yea, it does, but one thing that doesn't is why SEND/AUTH doesn't work 
    	to your account?  Maybe I missed that explanation!
466.158I'd like to hear itGOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Tue Aug 06 1991 16:535
    I think I get the picture, but I thought some of Yngwie's stuff had
    classical style arrangements.  I'm not sure whether metal riffs/chords
    and stuff would work in a strictly classical type arrangement.  
    
    Gh
466.159VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKEngineer at LargeTue Aug 06 1991 17:069
    
    re: .276
    
    Got to send mail to VCSESU::COOK
    
    When it's done, it'll more of a heavy metal symphony, than a heavy
    metal song.
    
    Bohemian rhapsody is very close example.
466.160QRYCHE::STARRSpontaneity has its time and place.Tue Aug 06 1991 17:596
>    What I am doing is taking metal riffs and incorporating it into a 
>    combination of classical and rock song structure.

Sounds sorta like Rainbow's "Difficult To Cure"..... you know that song, Pete?

alan
466.161VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKEngineer at LargeTue Aug 06 1991 18:004
    
    re: -1
    
    Nope, which release?
466.162QRYCHE::STARRSpontaneity has its time and place.Tue Aug 06 1991 18:014
That's the title cut from the album. Its also on the Finyl Vinyl album, where
they play it live with an 80-piece orchestra....

alan
466.163CAVLRY::BUCKWhatever happened to jane? Jane? JANE?!Tue Aug 06 1991 18:073
    Bohemian Rhapsody is based on, amzinly enough, a Rhapsody!
    
    Can you imagine?!
466.164fwiwCAVLRY::BUCKWhatever happened to jane? Jane? JANE?!Tue Aug 06 1991 19:463
    Actually, one of the songs I'm readying to record with MISTER TWISTER
    is written in a classical 'Sonata' form, but listening to it, you'd
    never say "Hey, that sounds classical".
466.165Bezerklee will do that to ya!COMET::FRISBYALickin'MyFingersTue Aug 06 1991 19:494
       Buck........CLassical POSER!!!!!!!!!
    
                    Frizkid
    
466.166Nobody calls me POSE!HLDG00::SUTHERLANDLay your spirit down easyWed Aug 07 1991 11:1611
    Hey Pete, why not get Il Pavarotti to sing the accompaniment!  Lucianno
    kicks major ass!
    
    I think that some of Uriah Heeps earlier compositions were classical in
    format!  This is probably because Ken Hensley leaned towards classical
    music!  Have a listen to Magicians Birthday and Salisbury for some
    ideas!
    
    
    
    GAZ 
466.167To Bb or Not to Bb!!CSLALL::PLAFONDTwo,Two Preamps are better than one!Mon Aug 12 1991 13:595
    Yes!  To write it like Marty and Jason would,on the Cacophony album
    	Speed Metal Symphony both that song and Concerto are very classical
    written and Ballesz tunes!!! ;^)
    
    Pierre
466.168VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathThu Aug 15 1991 17:327
    
    I met someone who does management that books there regularly.
    Since we're looking for management, I'm giving him a call.
    
    BTW, I was in line for beer yesterday at Great Woods and I was
    talking to this guy. Asked me what band I was in, I told him,
    and he heard of us. I almost sh*t!
466.169GOES11::G_HOUSEHappy is never enoughThu Aug 15 1991 20:007
>    AXIS is a HARD club to get your band booked into...you gotta KNOW
>    people!
    
    Do you just have to "know" them once, or do you have to keep doing it
    to get booked?  Is the casting couch comfortable?
    
    gh
466.170WLDKAT::GALLUPWhat's your damage, Heather?Fri Aug 16 1991 19:0042
    
    
    > BTW, we called TT the Bears. They said the tape "scared them" and
    >    that they don't book Metal bands. What pussys!
    
    They don't book "metal" bands, because, frankly, metal really isn't
    "in" on the boston scene.  There are very few Boston metal bands that
    even get play-time at any of the major clubs.
    
    I've seen major thrashy, punkish, grungy grinding music at TT's.  I've
    seen some pits there that would tear people apart. They aren't "pussys" 
    or wimps about their music.  
    
    They do, however, have a good handle on what kinds of music bring in
    the big $$$$, and metal isn't one of them.
    
    One thing you need to realize, Pete, is that the Boston music scene is
    very tightly woven.  Bands are booking gigs as a unit now in a lot of
    places (you'll see bands forming liasons together and playing together
    a lot), if you don't know the other bands on the scene, you don't get
    out to play very often, that's how it works.  
    
    If you want to get into the scene, you have to be IN the scene.  Who
    ARE the metal bands in Boston, where do they play, what are their
    names, do you know them, would the be willing to back you for a gig?
    
    If you expect to jump feet first into the Boston music scene with big
    gigs handed to you (like the Channel, Axis, Citi, The Paradise, etc)
    you've got a large, raw dose of reality coming your way FAIRLY fast.
    
    
    Many bands spend months and even YEARS playing the Worcester scene
    and tiny, hole-in-the-wall, no-pay-for-musicians dives before they ever
    have the backing to make it "onto" the scene to even have a chance to
    make it "big."  Don't think Mystic Powers is any different than any of
    them, Pete, because you're not.  
    
    Talent and attitude isn't going to get you the gigs, connections are. 
    
    Telling it like it is on the Boston scene..........
    
    	kath
466.171WLDKAT::GALLUPWhat's your damage, Heather?Fri Aug 16 1991 19:0731
    
    
    BTW, now that I went into that tirade, I really should emphasize that I
    went into a tirade like that because, basically to be a strict metal
    band, and to try and get onto the Boston Scene is nigh to impossible. 
    About the only gigs you get are when major metal acts come through and
    they need an opening act to go on at 9pm when no ones even there
    anyway.
    
    Metal does NOT bring money into the clubs, on a metal night you'll find
    that most of the clubs aren't filled at all, and I rarely see strict
    metal shows even listed (the Channel is about the only place that lists
    any).
    
    TT's, Middle East, Paradise, Axis, Citi, ManRay, etc are all
    alternative, grungy, industrial, rock, ska, etc establishments because
    that's where the money comes from. 
    
    Lots of thrashy grungy groups are on the scene:  Kudgel, Red Bliss
    (sort of), Chloe, Kildren (local?), etc........  They're fast, hard and
    driving (to the point you get yourself mangled in the mosh pit), but 
    they are NOT metal.
    
    
    I'm just telling you like it is on the Boston scene.........if you're
    Metal, you've got a LONG HARD ROAD ahead of you....Metal is just NOT
    "vogue" these days.
    
    
    
    kath
466.172VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Aug 19 1991 11:423
    
    I don't want to make the scene, I want to play out once in a while.
    Our main goal is to get a CD out and get signed.
466.173VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathTue Aug 20 1991 11:0741
    
> They don't book "metal" bands, because, frankly, metal really isn't
> "in" on the boston scene.  
    
    	It never really has been but that never stopped Meliah Rage or
    	Wargasm.
    
    > There are very few Boston metal bands that even get play-time at 
    > any of the major clubs.
  
    	One reason is because there aren't that many Boston metal bands!
      
> They do, however, have a good handle on what kinds of music bring in
> the big $$$$, and metal isn't one of them.
  
    	I don't agree. One metal night a week would bring in some good
    	bucks.
      
> One thing you need to realize, Pete, is that the Boston music scene is
> very tightly woven.  Bands are booking gigs as a unit now in a lot of
> places, if you don't know the other bands on the scene, you don't get
> out to play very often, that's how it works.  
  
    	I'd like to network with another metal band, but I can't think of
    	one out there right now as heavy as us. Most are funk metal or
    	mainstream metal.
      
> if you want to get into the scene, you have to be IN the scene.  Who
> ARE the metal bands in Boston, where do they play, what are their
> names, do you know them, would the be willing to back you for a gig?
  
    	Good question.
      
> If you expect to jump feet first into the Boston music scene with big
> gigs handed to you (like the Channel, Axis, Citi, The Paradise, etc)
> you've got a large, raw dose of reality coming your way FAIRLY fast.
    
  	Yeah, like reality being our first gig at the Channel backing
    	up a national act (Razor's Edge).  
  
    	/prc
466.174METALX::SWANSONMakeEvrythngLouderThanEvrythngElseThu Aug 22 1991 12:4216
    Well, I finally caught Mystic Powers at the Cove last night.  You guys
    played pretty good Pete!  Especially your drumming.  Definately the
    strongest link in the band I'd say.  The bass player was pretty tight
    too.  I can't figure out if he looks more like Noel Redding, or Eric
    Clapton from the Cream days!
    
    Your guitarist really does need to turn down the treble a bit as has
    been previously said.  It might be his distortion pedal that's causing
    that tinny sound.  I don't know what kind it was, but when he clicked
    it off it sounded more natural.
    
    The singer sounded alright.  Maybe could have used a little delay on
    his voice though.  All in all it was it was a good show I thought.
    
    |KS|
    
466.175VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveThu Aug 29 1991 19:147
    
    I'm happy to report that Roller Kingdom in Tyngsboro is playing
    Mystic Powers!  PSYCHE!
    
    If ya go there request it!
    
    
466.176VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveMon Sep 09 1991 11:378
    
    Thanks to F. and Tracy for coming down yesterday! It was a great day.
    
    I have advanced tickets to the Escape CLub show. They are discount tix
    and are $5.00 a peice. Send me mail if'n ya want some. We have to
    sell these mothers!
    
    BTW, the place is incredible! The stage is HUGE!
466.177POWDML::GOLDBERGuncongressional mosh!Mon Sep 09 1991 12:0811
    
    
    Pete, I thought you guys sounded real good!  The guitarist's playing
    reminded me of the Ramones though - I'm not sure if thats what you
    intended?  Everytime a song began, I'm thinking, this sounds just like
    the Ramones!!  (not throughout the entire tune, of course! just
    beginnings)
    
    It was a great show though!
    
    Goddess F.
466.178CSC32::J_HERNANDEZSheTakesDictationW/OTheTationMon Sep 09 1991 13:594
    This is just to keep April from gettin it.
    
    
    So how was the show?
466.179VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveMon Sep 09 1991 14:466
    
    
    cool. we played in front of a bunch of beer guzzling bikers and such.
    The rest of the bands played Blues. We got a better response than I
    though we would from a non-metal crowd. and of course goddess of
    fdotedness was there to cheer us on!
466.180FYIPOWDML::GOLDBERGuncongressional mosh!Mon Sep 09 1991 15:496
    
    
    
    By the by..  I don't know if I mentioned this but Mystic Powers has
    some wicked jammin tunes!!  Fast and funky stuff!!  You can't even get
    a glimmer of it from the demo tape.
466.181Dan Lilker...MILKWY::LEgivepraisetoSatan,heisaGodofGodMon Sep 16 1991 12:0510
    RE: Pete,
    
    I got a letter from Nuclear Assault in serveral months ago.  They 
    were working on their new album at that time.  But, Dan Lilker left
    that band.  Now he is in Brutal Truth, I just saw B.T at Death Fest.
    in Milwaukee, which was not too long ago.
    
    -Dle
    
    
466.182VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveMon Sep 16 1991 12:412
    
    What a bummer! Steve is gonna be depressed! 8-)
466.183VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveMon Sep 16 1991 14:124
    
    I forgot to mention, we're having t-shirts made up next week or the
    week after that. John is taking care of it so I'm not sure exactly
    when.
466.184HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSExit Light, Enter Night!Mon Sep 16 1991 14:5625
    Well, if anyone's interested, I'll tell you about Friday night at the
    Escape Club.  The first band that went on was called SanSarra(sp).
    They were a late-teens band.  They weren't really TOO bad, but the poor
    singer had osteosperosis(sp).  It was a riot.  He kept hunching over
    and looking up in the air and moving his head around.  He looked just
    like someone pretending to be on an acid trip!  LIKE WOW MAN!!!
    
    2nd band was Mystic Powers.  They sounded just as good as the last time
    I saw them  Everything was tight and working well.  The one funny part
    was when the singer was walking around the stage, grooving to the music
    during a lead, and he stopped while standing infront of the base
    player's Marshall.  What he didn't realize was he had his microphone
    right in front of the amp speaker.  So, suddenly you heard this LOUD
    DEEP TONE blasting out from the stage!!  :^)
    
    3rd band, well, it's really too bad.  They were good, and "could" have
    been very good.  But, when they were warming up and the guitar players
    were farting around, I just knew they were going to over-power that
    place, and sure enough, they did.  They were blasting with so much
    power that there was no clarity in what they were playing.  And like I
    said, it's too bad because they seemed real good.  They were called
    Dark Ages.  They played Enter Sandman, which I really like.  Only wish
    they had "toned down" for that one.
    
    Chris D.
466.185VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveWed Sep 18 1991 13:3513
    
    Last night at the Channel was an incredible success! We brought in the
    most tix of any band there, and I'm sure we'll be back. We went on
    at 9:00 and got an incredible audience response from start to finish.
    I was truly amazed! High Voltage also played (and we kicked their
    butts!)
    
    The Tocatta and Fugue in Dm intro over the PA went wicked cool too!
                                                       ______
     
    Thanks to Paul and Jim for coming down and supporting us!
    
    /prc
466.186YAY *8)DPDMAI::THRELFALLDoMyDeed4You'reThe1Who'sShamedWed Sep 18 1991 15:081
    Good to hear it Pete!
466.187PROXY::MCCARRONItain'twhereyafrom,itzwhereyaat!Wed Sep 18 1991 16:1620
    
    
    	Jim was there?... Jim Whitman?  
    
    	Like I told Pete last night, they were 1000 times better than
    when I saw them at DECjam and 10000 times better than their cassette.
    
    	The first few songs were very, very good.... stick with the fast
    stuff. 8^)
    
    	Great (humorous) intro to "Speak English or Die"!... "Do you have a
    fear of 7-11's?"
    
    	Excellent crowd response!
    
        Nice job Pete!!
    
    
    Paul
                        
466.188HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSExit Light, Enter Night!Wed Sep 18 1991 18:549
    
    Pete, glad to hear it went over well.  
    
    Where are the t-shirts?  What's going to be on them?  How much are
    they going to be??
    
    So, how'd you break the ice with the new cute receptionist??  :^)
    
    Chris D.
466.189VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveWed Sep 18 1991 18:576
    
    Were looking into prices. We have the design layed out already
    so it's just a matter of time
    
    She asked me how the gig went. She's going out with someone I
    knew from High School.
466.190VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveWed Sep 18 1991 19:045
    
    I hate it when that happens! 8-)
    
    Hey Buck, what's the phone number for Barking Spiders Studio?
    I need to call 'em. I talked Steve out of Long ($$$$) View.
466.191VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveWed Sep 18 1991 19:152
    
    Never mind, I just got in touch with him. 
466.192oops, make that ONE SONG...CAVLRY::BUCKACE Regional RepWed Sep 18 1991 19:218
    I'm glad you came to a decision on Long View.  Long View is great,
    but to REALLY take advantage of it's greatness, you have to spend a
    siginificant amount of time and money there, and at a place of that
    calibre, you're talking big bucks!!
    
    Buck, who has dfaith in Barking Spider
    
    PS - Can I produce on song on your demo??
466.193I can't explain but I like it!SOURCE::ZAPPIAThe Poseur ChildrenWed Sep 18 1991 20:5772
	Pete,
	
	In regards to the tickets you may want to consider handing out
	a couple of extra ones to anyone that requests them so that they 
	can either pass them on to more friends or hand them to someone 
	who might happen to be in heading in without one.

	This will further help your obviously good crowd showing count.

	As I told you in part since I had planned on going anyhow I didn't 
	want to go in without a ticket so I tried at about 8:15 to meet up 
	with you by the back door. 

	As it turned out I was talking to a friend of your guitarist who
	said he would ask someone to see if there were any more tickets.

	He was able to get some but after closer examination we found that
	we helped out another band's headcount!  Your singer, who I might
	add I wouldn't want to tangle with was jokingly calling us traders.

	It was evident by the crowd reaction that you did very well and
	as you pointed out the numbers were up there.  That's really
	good considering a relatively early start time.

	Even though I like seeing support acts it's not often that you catch 
	me at the Channel before 9:00.

	It's very good to see a live band that you're not familiar with
	who you instantly like but in your case something all along told
	me I would like your band and I did so it wasn't unexpected.
	
	I could have ribbed you but although I never got the demo I asked 
	for some time ago hearing you for the first time I really did enjoy it.

	A few replies back someone commented on how the bass player looked 
	like Eric Clapton in his early days, I was thinking along the same 
	lines, he definitely was UK rocker-like.

	I liked the guitarist, your drums sounded great but more importantly
	than individual band members is the overall sound.  The few people
	who I saw (and I stress few) I can't see how you can sit like a
	bump on a log (I hate that expression but it's best I can do right
	now) show barely any signs of life.  In the words of many performers 
	'please either hate us or love us but give some feedback'.  But then 
	again I'm the one who suggest the Orpheum rip out the first 20 rows
	of seats.

	Also as we spoke there's already enough bands who sound so much
	a like that it's nice to hear a band not in in the words of TT's 
	who called you "Scary" which still makes me laugh who were not
	just another this, that, or -what-you-call-it-type band. (fill in
	your own types.)

	I would say it's likely that not all of the crowd was there to
	see you but you and certainly not one they may have expected but 
	again apparently some of them to liked you.  I don't think you
	guess can pay of people for audience reaction.

	As for press kits and such I think you can do yourselves more justice
	by including a more adjective type description than relating yourself
	to any particular sound or another band.  Something I'm not terribly 
	good at but I think it's especially relevant when considering the 
	creative process that goes into song writing it only makes sense to 
	describe it in terms of something anyone can understand.  For bands
	who's goal it is to sound/mimic someone else it's probably deserves
	less consideration.

	I am looking forward to your next show preferably when you are 
	headlining.

	- Jim
466.194VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveFri Sep 20 1991 11:469
    
    Buck, we went to BS studio last night and talked with Steve and Rob. 
    It looks we're going to go with them. We're going to book some time
    in late November. We want to book 24 hours and if it goes over that
    then we'll book more. and I'd love for ya to produce a tune! Dat
    would be cool!
    
    Jim, thanks for the input! We'll be headlining at Ralph's and Edible
    Rex.
466.195I liked itCAVLRY::BUCKACE Regional RepFri Sep 20 1991 11:591
    Steve and Rob are very cool, and their new place is nice, huh??
466.196VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveFri Sep 20 1991 12:073
    
    Very very nice! Another thing I like is use of the apartment upstairs
    being included in the price!
466.197VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveTue Sep 24 1991 20:512
    
    The symphony is almost done. 15 minutes 24 seconds.
466.198VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveThu Sep 26 1991 19:3219
    
    A few updates.
    
    The Escape Club show is on for this Friday night. BK will be up there
    with us playing tour manager. 8-)  We'll be going on third.
    
    The Ralph's show is on as said in other notes. The show starts at 
    9:30-10:00. Mystic Powers headlines at 12 unless (Jim or Buck) want
    to switch slots. It's open for discussion.
    
    As I said somewhere else, Symphony #1 is nearly complete. It stands
    at 15 minutes 24 seconds right now. Longest metal tune I know of.
    John did all the writing, I wrote the opening sinister death riff
    and arranged the whole thing. Lyrics are in the works. I want to add 
    one more part and it's done.
    
    
    
    
466.199;^)CAVLRY::BUCKACE Regional RepThu Sep 26 1991 19:513
    Lyrics?!?
    
    So it's an Opera, not a Symphony!
466.200HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSWe fought 2nite We killed 2niteMon Sep 30 1991 12:184
    
    Pete,  How'd it go Friday night??
    
    Chris D.
466.201VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveMon Sep 30 1991 12:248
    
    Very well! Alot better than last time.
    
    We also booked another show there for Sunday October 20th. It's an
    afternoon show.
    
    He also mentioned us doing a national act in November. Either with
    Overkill or Armored Saint/Wrathchild America. THAT would be killer!
466.202VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathFri Oct 04 1991 13:175
    
    Man, this place is quiet today. I know there were alot of people there
    last night who've never seen/heard us before...what did ya think?
    
    
466.203I was there - but who am I?CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELLOne way ticket on your last chance ride"Fri Oct 04 1991 13:557
I should have introduced myself last night.  I was the guy no one knew in the
gray levi jacket.

I thought you guys sounded pretty good.  I stayed until the break.  I have to 
leave today at noon. so I needed to get in early.

Tim
466.204VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathFri Oct 04 1991 16:5899
466.205JUPITR::BJUBINVILLEI TOO AM THE NRASat Oct 05 1991 12:578
         I caught you guys for a few songs. I wanted to stay but the guy
    I was with doesn't like the music too well.  Besides, he was driving 
    and I was outta $$$$$.
    
         I was the tall guy with the fu-man-chu look....
    
    
    Boz 
466.206WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnMon Oct 07 1991 13:326
466.207VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Oct 07 1991 14:385
    
    re: .469
    
    Yeah, I saw you moshing over to the left. I heard the double bass
    comment. Thanks! 
466.208POWDML::GOLDBERGMon Oct 07 1991 14:426
    
    
    I thought you guyz were AWESOME!!!
    
    
    Goddess F.
466.209VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtrooper of DeathMon Oct 07 1991 14:484
    
    We thank you for your support!
    
    /prc, drums & KILL double bass
466.210DerringersNEMAIL::MERCIERBaaabbbyy SnaaaakesMon Oct 14 1991 11:495
    You guys sounded good at Derringers. What did you think of that Drum
    set......yech!! It was setup really bad..IMO. Mystery City sounded good
    too. Did you stick around after you played?
    
    Bob
466.211VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKMon Oct 14 1991 11:506
    
    Well, the whole thing went really well and the place was packed!
    
    Next show is this Thursday, October 17th at the Channel in Boston.
    I have tickets, with them admission is *FREE*
    
466.212And the left bass drum pedal blew!VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKMon Oct 14 1991 11:518
    
    re: .498
    
    Yep, I hung around for quite a while. The Anthrax tune you guys did
    was excellent!
    
    That drum set was terrible! I was expecting four toms!
    
466.213The right pedal sucked,too!!NEMAIL::MERCIERBaaabbbyy SnaaaakesMon Oct 14 1991 12:2312
    Yeah I thought the pedals sucked. They were really bouncy. I thought
    the overall show went really good. There were so many people.. Last
    time I played the No Bozos there, it was a full house. The Antrax tune
    seemed to go over well, but it was hard pulling it off with that drum
    set. I like playing at Derringers,because we practice right upstairs
    from the club. You guys should try and book another show there.
    
    Derringers
    508-559-2284
    Talk to Annie
    
    /bob
466.214VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKUncongressional Mosh!Fri Oct 18 1991 11:4014
    
> How'd it go last night, Pete?
    
	It was killer! We played the best we've played maybe ever. The
    	crowd response was fantastic. We opened with the Bach peice
    	this time, it makes such a difference.  We got alot of people
    	down there last night but I was disapointed with the fact that
    	only one person from this conference showed up. I'd figure at
    	the Channel, and it being free, at least a few people would
    	have come. Luckily we're building up a good following of
    	hardcore fans.
    
    	/prc	
    	
466.215MR4DEC::JWHITMANNo more TearsFri Oct 18 1991 14:1313
    
    
    	Ya! you guys should be ashamed of yourselves! ;') 
    
    
    	Well, I got a chance to go check out the guys, sounded good!
    	I liked what I heard, everything was tight... and it even helped
    	things out more that Paul Hagger was doin sound for you guys!!
    
    	overall, great show!
    
    
    	JW-
466.216VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKUncongressional Mosh!Fri Oct 18 1991 14:512
    
    Thanks dude!
466.217.........AD::FLATTERYFri Oct 18 1991 18:473
    ...yeah, Paul is a terrific sound guy.....did you guys contact him 
    specifically to do sound for you or was he the house sound guy that
    night...../k
466.218VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKUncongressional Mosh!Sat Oct 19 1991 01:122
    
    I believe he does sound at the Channel every Thursday.
466.219VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKUncongressional Mosh!Mon Oct 21 1991 10:403
    
    Dan Lilker's new band, Brutal _____? has been added to the November
    16th Death show at Escape.
466.220MRVAX::CESCOBARThe empty can rattles the mostMon Oct 21 1991 11:387
    
    He oughta get a kick outa Speak English or Die
    
    
    
    
    Chris
466.221SUBURB::COOKSSymphonies Of SicknessMon Oct 21 1991 14:354
    Brutal TRUTH i do believe.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    
466.222VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKUncongressional Mosh!Mon Oct 21 1991 14:412
    
    Yep, dats it.
466.223SUBURB::COOKSSymphonies Of SicknessTue Oct 22 1991 09:336
    What a classic line-up. I bet it`ll be great meeting the bands
    back-stage - though watch out for "evil" Chuck Schudliner (sp) from
    Death,he`s supposed to be a bit tempermental.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    
466.224VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKUncongressional Mosh!Tue Oct 22 1991 09:482
    
    I can't wait to meet Lilker!
466.225SUBURB::COOKSSymphonies Of SicknessTue Oct 22 1991 10:065
    Are you going to do Speak English Or Die? Don`t suppose he`ll get 
    funny about royalties or what not? 
    
    Joe Strummer.
    
466.226VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKUncongressional Mosh!Tue Oct 22 1991 10:185
    
    I've been thinking about that. I don't think it would be a problem
    since we're not making any money at this show, so no royalties. He'd
    probably get a kick out of it. I don't know though, we'll probably
    wind up doing all originals that day.
466.227HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSThe vay you valk is fonny....Thu Oct 24 1991 11:168
    Pete, I think you were asking about covering a song from a band that
    you will be opening for.  I say NO!!  I doubt if the other band will
    like it, and I would AT LEAST make sure that the song you plan on doing
    isn't in their intended set.  But I still think it shouldn't be played
    at all.
    
    Just MHO
    Chris D.
466.228NEWOA::DALLISONBigger and better things.Thu Oct 24 1991 11:2317
    
    
    RE: Covering a tune of a band you're supporting.
    
    Thats a *definate* no no.
    
    Three reasons why :-
    
    1) If you cover the song and do it badly, the band may be offended and
       you'll look like a bunch of amatuers.
    2) If you cover the song and do it really well, the band are gonna be
       pi$$ed at you for making a better job of it than them.
    3) Why would the audience want to hear the same song twice in one
       evening, live ?
    
    Just my humble opinion.
    -Tony
466.229VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKUncongressional Mosh!Thu Oct 24 1991 11:255
    
    If we did it we'd ask him first. The song isn't by someone we're
    supporting, BTW.
    
    We're not doing it, I talked to the band last night about it.
466.230VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStanding on top...Thu Nov 07 1991 13:279
    
    Good news about the first release. We're going into the studio, 24
    track, on December 13, 14, and 15. Gonna be living there while we
    record. Doing at at Barking Spider Studios in Sudbury which is
    a most triumphant place! We'll be doing 4-5 tunes. Cassettes are
    a definite, CD's will be pressed if we can get them in lots of
    less than 500 at a time.
    
    /prc
466.231SUBURB::COOKSBang That Head That Doesn`t BangFri Nov 08 1991 13:477
    Er,is it going to be legendary!?
    
    So is this an album released on a record label,or more of a demo tape
    (CD),which hopefully you`ll get onto a record label?
    
    JOe Strummer.
    
466.232VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKStanding on top...Fri Nov 08 1991 13:533
    
    more of a demo, but if we get an independent label interested, we'll do
    that.
466.233...#99 has been closed fore re-modeling...AD::FLATTERYMon Nov 25 1991 12:592
    ..so peter...how was the show friday night.........??../k
    
466.234VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKSchizofrenchfryica!Mon Nov 25 1991 13:038
    
    It went good. We went on early so there were more band people there
    than audience. We were easily the heaviest band there except for
    Wargasm.
    
    We went over time so they had to cut us off, except they just did it
    without telling us or signalling us. I whipped my drum sticks
    some where, never did find them. 8-)
466.235VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKSchizofrenchfryica!Mon Nov 25 1991 13:0612
    
    BTW, I believe the tenative list for what we're doing in the studio
    goes like this; (those who haven't seen us won't get anything from
    this obviously)
    
    Armageddon
    Life in the Fast Lane (title track, NOT the Eagles tune either 8-))
    Invasion
    Slave to Insanity
    Uncongressional Mosh (or) Evil Dead
    
    
466.236VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKStormtroopers AnonymousFri Dec 06 1991 12:087
    
    I have excellent news!
    
    We are going to be doing a Heavy Metal night at the Stadium Club
    in Framingham in early 1992. It's going to be our official tape
    release party. There will be labels checking us out that night 
    and WAAF will be advertising the show extensively! Psyche!
466.237I can't wait to hear your tape too...MPGS::HOWESPoison was the CureFri Dec 06 1991 18:2410


	Re: -1 

	Good for you Dude.....  I wish you the best of luck....

	It would be cool if someone from HM notes 'Made it'..... 
	
						-Seth
466.238VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKF.D.D.Mon Dec 09 1991 14:5012
    
    Anyone inthe UK get these stations? I'm sending them a demo when
    they're ready.
    
 
	Boris 'n' Jason				C.L.Warnell
	UKC Radio				Darwin College
	Eliot College				The University
	The University				Canterbury
	Canterbury				Kent
	Kent					CT2 7NY
	England					England
466.239VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKand a beer.Wed Dec 11 1991 13:2911
    
    The tunes we're doing for the EP have been firmed up. Some of these
    people have heard either live or on the tape I sent. In order;
    
    Armageddon
    Life in the Fast Lane
    Missing You
    Invasion
    (if we have time, either Lone Rider or F.D.D.)
    
    
466.240CAVLRY::BUCKSupport the coasters of America!Wed Dec 11 1991 13:5318
    >The tunes we're doing for the EP have been firmed up. Some of these
    >people have heard either live or on the tape I sent. In order;
    >
    >Armageddon
    >Life in the Fast Lane
    >Missing You
    >Invasion
    >(if we have time, either Lone Rider or F.D.D.)
    
    Not that it matters, but *I* would do the following tunes, in order:
    
    Invasion
    Life in the Fast Lane
    Lone Rider
    Armageddon
    Uncongretional Mosh
    
    Buck, always with his VHO
466.241VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKand a beer.Wed Dec 11 1991 14:572
    
    Thanks for the input, that's what I'm looking for!
466.242VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKand a beer.Wed Dec 11 1991 16:564
    
    Also wanted to mention that we're gonna have a full blown j-card, and
    everyone here gets an honorable mention. If we can get CD's in lots of 
    200-300, we're going to do strictly CD's. If not, tapes.
466.243CIVIC::BUCKLEYWed Dec 11 1991 16:5811
    Well, I happen to REALLY like the MOSH...it's different...I like the
    lyrics, and the groove is very original.  
    
    I would also try and put forth a more cohesive set of songs for your
    demo.  That is why I picked the tunes I did.  I would leave the ballard
    (missing you) off...it just doesn't really fit with the others...not
    that it;s bad...it's cool when you do it live, but for shopping a demo,
    I'd use the time to record something on a tune that was more reflective 
    of what the band is REALLY about musically.
    
    kapisch?
466.244VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKand a beer.Wed Dec 11 1991 17:087
    
    Sorry, that last reply was done while I was on the phone.
    
    I want to leave out Missing You also, and I know Steve wouldn't
    mind doing Uncongressional Mosh at all, so that's what will
    probably happen. I'm going to talk to him about it more
    tonight.
466.2455-69, dudes!CIVIC::BUCKLEYWed Dec 11 1991 17:091
    Cool...adn good luck!
466.246VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKand a beer.Wed Dec 11 1991 17:102
    
    Thanks dude! I'm looking REAL forward to doing it at Barking Spider!
466.247CIVIC::BUCKLEYWed Dec 11 1991 17:167
    Well, like I said before...they're new, so their reputation for what
    goes out the door quality-wise is a lot more important than, say,
    Longview who already has a good rep, and doesn't really care if your
    project ends up sounding like crap, you know?
    
    Also, Rob and Steve are WAY cool, and are a lot easier to work with 
    than most music biz types.
466.248Floating walls!VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKand a beer.Wed Dec 11 1991 17:192
    
    VERY true! And that sound room! Yowza!
466.249VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKand a beer.Thu Dec 12 1991 00:514
    
    I just got back from the studio. The songs will be;
    
    Invasion, Life..., Armageddon, and the Mosh.
466.250CAVLRY::BUCKThu Dec 12 1991 11:351
    Excellent choices!
466.251VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKand a beer.Thu Dec 12 1991 12:214
    
    I wanted to squeeze in 5 songs, but we're using 2" tape and the max
    is 2500 feet which is like 16 minutes, and I really don't want to
    push it. I'd rather have some footage to play with if we need it.
466.252VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKand a beer.Mon Dec 16 1991 09:517
    
    Success! The tape sounds killer! We finished ahead of schedule too.
    
    Armageddon, Life, Uncongressional Mosh, Invasion, and F.D.D.
    
    Everything in the mix is very distinct, nothing is buried, espeically
    the double bass! 8-)
466.253VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKAll I need...Thu Dec 19 1991 13:498
    
    We're going to have a second mix down done. After that we'll choose
    between the two and have the best one duplicated. In the meantime
    I can make pre-release copies to those interested. It won't be the
    professional copies we're going to shop around and sell but it'll
    sound just the same.
    
    /prc
466.254CAVLRY::BUCKRexx Rack Rock n Roll!Thu Dec 19 1991 14:001
    What are you going to try and achieve with a 2nd mixdown?!?
466.255VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKAll I need...Thu Dec 19 1991 14:064
    
    The over all bass level is a little high. We'd like to get the overall
    mix a little clearer. I need for you to hear it and see what you
    think...
466.256CAVLRY::BUCKRexx Rack Rock n Roll!Thu Dec 19 1991 15:321
    Ok, well...you wanna set up time to meet briefly and give it a whirl?
466.257VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKAll I need...Thu Dec 19 1991 15:382
    
    Sure...Saturday is cool.
466.258CAVLRY::BUCKRexx Rack Rock n Roll!Thu Dec 19 1991 15:384
    Will have to be early or late, but Saturday is major shopping day,
    dude!!!
    
    Buck, who has YET to start!
466.259VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKAll I need...Thu Dec 19 1991 15:394
    
    wow, I'm gonna finish up Friday night but I gotta wrap Saturday.
    
    Early is cool.
466.260VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKSlave to EcstasyFri Dec 20 1991 17:0732
    
    	
    	Here is the latest song list...
    
	All songs (c) 1991 by Mystic Powers.
    
    *	Armageddon.  		Music by Steve Garry, lyrics by Peter Cook.
    	Eternal Sickness.  	Music by Steve Garry, lyrics by Peter Cook.
    	Evil Dead.  		Music and lyrics by Steve Garry.
    	Lost at Sea.  		Music by Steve Garry, lyrics by Steve Garry 
				and Peter Cook.
    *	F.D.D.			Music by Steve Garry and John Lally. Lyrics
    				by Steve Garry.
 	Free Wheeling.  	Music and lyrics by Steve Garry.
    	Give 'em Hell.  	Music and lyrics by Steve Garry.
    	Got You (In My Sight)  	Music and lyrics by Steve Garry
    *  	Invasion.  		Music by Steve Garry and Peter Cook, lyrics 
				by Peter Cook, Keith Poulin.
    *  	Life in Fast Lane.  	Music and lyrics by Steve Garry
	Lone Rider.  		Music and lyrics by Steve Garry
    	Slave to Insanity	Music by John Lally. Lyrics and arrangement
				by Peter Cook.
    	Missing You.  		Music and lyrics by Steve Garry
    	Mope Master.  		Music and lyrics by Peter Cook
    	Mystic Powers.  	Music by Steve Garry
	Reach for my Heart      Music by John Lally. Lyrics by Steve Garry
    	Ride 'em High.  	Music and lyrics by Steve Garry
	Symphony #1		Music by John Lally and Peter Cook. Arranged
				by Peter Cook. Lyrics by Peter Cook.
    *	Uncongressional Mosh.  	Music and lyrics by Steve Garry.

    	* - on the tape!
466.261FDD to be MP 1st big single!CAVLRY::BUCKRexx Rack Rock n Roll!Sun Dec 22 1991 11:1457
    Well, I have HEARD the new Wilson Philips, er, Mystic Powers tape!!!
    
    Here's a brief review:
    
    Armeggedon - A tad fast on the tempo side, although the song went well
    to tape.  For this type of song, I would have preferred a rhythm guitar
    part in support of the guitar solo, but I guess the author wanted that
    sort of empty feeling in that section.  The mix is *ok*...the lead
    vocals are a little too loud, as is the bass guitar.  Overall, the
    guitar was down in the mix, and the bass guitar much louder.  I think
    if Pete's band decides to re-mix, the guitar should be stoked and the
    ld vox come down a bit.
    
    Life in the Fast Lane -- Nice version to tape...but would have been
    better with more guitar and background vocals.
    
    Uncongretional Mosh -- Yet another song that sounds good to tape, but
    here Steve's roolin background vocals really need to come up in the mix!
    I didn't think the guitar sound fit this type of song, but hey, *I*
    wasn't playing producer on the session!  Also, this song's tempo was a
    tad to fast...for it to be REALLY moshy, it would need to be slower and
    more deliberate.
    
    Invasion -- A new tune to my ears...probably the thrashiest tun on the
    tape.  Again, I didn't think the chorused guitar sound fit the style of 
    music.  The guitarist (John) definitely has roots in Iron Maiden and 
    Black Sabbath, and when he goes for this type of guitar sound, it only
    serves to help the music sound more like Iron Maiden, than, say, S.O.D.!
    
    F.D.D. -- Another new tune, and this was my favorite on the tape!! 
    This IMVHO was the best mixed and recorded song, and should go first on
    demo pressings.  If the other 4 songs were mixed as well as this one
    was, the MP demo would be pretty killer...as is the tape is good, but
    the unbalanced mix tends to overshadow the bands intentions a tad to much.
    
    
    BOTTOM LINE COMMENTS:  I think a re-mix is nec.  I feel the guitar
    sound doesn't fit the style of music a lot of times (it's *very* 80s
    metal guitar sound...not the raunchy Seattle-based guitar sound of the
    90s which is popular with so many thrash bands).  I guess MP has to
    decide wether they want to be a thrash band or more of an Iron Maiden
    kind of band, and adjust the guitar sound accordingly.  Also, the
    tempos on some of the songs could have been better...*I* would suggest
    playing some to a metronome next time you record (like the MOSH would
    have been much better is the tempo was more solid).  That's also one
    aspect that recoerd people pick up on...a band's ability to hold a
    constant tempo (fyi).  Keith sounds good voally on this tape, but I
    would have tried some different types of fx processing on his voice.
    It, too, tended to sometimes sound too OZZYish, in the sense of that
    chorused vocal sound.  Chorus is cool, but you gotta know how to use it
    effectively. 
    
    ...and that's it.  Overall, I think it's a good tape, and a big step up
    from the last one.
    
    Cheers,
    Buck, off to the malls (oh, fer sure, like, grody, you know?)
466.262VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKSlave to EcstasySun Dec 22 1991 14:2414
    
    We're definitely going more towards an Iron Maiden type of sound than
    thrash. I really don't classify our material as thrash, that's only one
    part of the whole picture.
    
    As far as the metronome stuff, Uncongressional Mosh wasn't played to a 
    click track because there are very subtle timing changes in parts of the 
    song and it would waste of time (i.e. $$) to program it.
    
    The remix has been set up. I agree, the vocals down, the guitar up, the
    bass down a hair, and I want my bass drums punchier and up a bit. I like 
    what's on tape, it's just getting all the levels perfect. 
    
    
466.263CAVLRY::BUCKSat Dec 28 1991 10:552
    See everyone today ever at the Wilson Philips practice place!
    ;^)
466.264VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKHarvester of SorrowSun Dec 29 1991 12:432
    
    Twas a cool night!
466.265CAVLRY::BUCKSun Dec 29 1991 13:254
    Agreed!
    
    Thanks to Pete and the boys for letting me strol down memory lane with
    them!
466.266Who needs a bass amp?GOES11::G_HOUSETommy The CatFri Jan 03 1992 14:517
>    I know in the bunnies, our bassist doesn't own an amp, and we always
>    have to make arrangements with the band we play with to borrow/rent
>    their bass amp for our set! 
    
    Why don't you just DI it?
    
    gh
466.267needs to hear herselfCAVLRY::BUCKRe-build the Rye AeroplaneFri Jan 03 1992 16:055
      >Why don't you just DI it?
      
    Then how does she hear what she is doing ON stage?!?  Monitors...yeah,
    right, like they won't blow up with a bass guitar going through them
    (we can never hear thevocals, anyways!)
466.268???GOES11::G_HOUSETommy The CatFri Jan 03 1992 16:473
    You should be able to run bass through a monitor without cookin it.
    
    gh
466.269MR4DEC::JWHITMANNo more TearsFri Jan 03 1992 16:494
    
    
    
    It sounds like Kukka...
466.270VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKslaughter with wrath & despiteFri Jan 03 1992 17:005
    
    I was talking to the guys in the band last night about this sort of
    thing. Sometimes, depending on the club, I can't hear squat out of
    the monitors except vocals. Johnny has a 2x12 Marhsall that I want
    him to run as a monitor for me at shows.
466.271Not alwaysGOES11::G_HOUSETommy The CatFri Jan 03 1992 17:185
    re: Jim
    
    I disagree completely.  I've heard DI'ed bass sound excellent.
    
    gh
466.272MR4DEC::JWHITMANNo more TearsFri Jan 03 1992 17:508
    
    
    Well, I've done it before... BLEEAACCCCHHHH... My system sh!t the 
    bed one night, as a matter of fact, it was at the Cove... so they
    ran me direct... EEEAAASSSSSHHHHH, that was hell... 
    
    
    
466.273HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSMe, ZugZug, Lana!!Mon Jan 06 1992 17:506
    
>>    Those spandex that Keith wore a couple times are mine!!
    
     So, Keith's been getting in you pants huh!!!     :^) :^) :^)
    
    Chris D.
466.274VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Fri Jan 10 1992 11:464
    
    Second mix is being done this Saturday.
    
    /prc
466.275CAVLRY::BUCKThere was a time I would've walked the lineFri Jan 10 1992 11:481
    I'm mixing with Barking Spider next Tuesday!
466.276VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Fri Jan 10 1992 11:554
    
    re: .624
    
    What ya working on?
466.277CAVLRY::BUCKThere was a time I would've walked the lineFri Jan 10 1992 12:001
    Re-mixing of two older tunes I have to tape
466.278VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Mon Jan 13 1992 11:162
    
    The remix is done, and sounds *excellent*!
466.279enquiring mindsCAVLRY::BUCKREXX & RollMon Jan 13 1992 11:211
    I what ways does it sound different than the first?
466.280VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Mon Jan 13 1992 11:277
    
    The guitar level is much better, the vocals are mixed in better,
    the highs are there much more than the last mix, the bass drums
    sound much better, the cymbals and the toms sound better, and the
    over all bass level isn't so high.
    
    Quite a difference between the two.
466.281POWDML::GOLDBERGmy baby does the hanky pankyMon Jan 13 1992 14:347
    
    
    I heard the new tape - it does sound awesome!!
    
    
    
    Goddess F.
466.282VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Mon Jan 13 1992 14:393
    
    Tapes, sure! I'm going to be sending them out as far as Alaska
    (university), one person in Scotland, another in the Netherlands, etc...
466.283CSC32::J_HERNANDEZPeople who use straws suck.Mon Jan 13 1992 14:391
    Any gonna make it to Colorado?
466.284VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Mon Jan 13 1992 14:416
    
    Of course!
    
    These are all gonna be professional tapes, not like the last ones.
    The first hundred are going to be done the first week of February
    (when I have the money to do it...)
466.285VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Mon Jan 13 1992 16:097
    
    Yep. Anyone who wants a copy send me mail. The initial cost is only
    $2.25 which is our cost to get the duplication done. The cassettes
    will be chrome tape in the see-through housing with the printing
    on it. They'll look good!
    
    /prc
466.286+$0.29 for P&HLACV01::BUCHANANIs VAX9000 Hal's cousin?Mon Jan 13 1992 17:273
    where do I send my check?
    
    
466.287VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Mon Jan 13 1992 17:3012
    
    	FYI...
    
    	Mystic Powers
    	13A Hunter Ave.
    	Hudson, MA. 01749.
    
    	Don't send anything yet, I need to see how much the P&H
    	actually is.
    
    	/prc
    		
466.288VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Mon Jan 13 1992 18:553
    
    Listening to the tape right now,, the double bass in F.D.D. is totally
    sick!!! Lombardo eat your heart out! 8-)
466.289CAVLRY::BUCKREXX & RollMon Jan 13 1992 19:002
    De Goddesso de la F-dottesso tells me that the drums are clearer and
    more upfront in the 2nd mix... true?
466.290VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Mon Jan 13 1992 19:047
    
    Yep!
    
    The hihats aren't as prominent, but that doesn't bother me. The double
    bass is sick! I'm in heaven!!!
    
    the guitar sounds much better too!
466.291;')MRSVAX::CESCOBARSouth Of HeavenTue Jan 14 1992 01:3518
    
    Hey Mystic powers got a new singer....
    
    
    
    
    
    ME!!!!!
    
    
    Too funny, Pete.... Thanks man I hadda grand ole time...can't believe I
    muffed up Hallowed Be Thy Name....I only missed two lines of Seek And
    Destroy..oh and the beginning "ALRIGHT"....thank god for steve's hand
    gestures..or I woulda missed the second verse...way cool dude!
    
    HAhahahah..I'm still laughin' at all that stuff Steve was sayin'...I'm
    sorry dude, but it was wicked funny....
    
466.292VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Tue Jan 14 1992 11:092
    
    So what did ya think of the tape?
466.293MRVAX::CESCOBARSouth Of HeavenTue Jan 14 1992 12:1715
    
    Great!...I want my own copy, or something to hear...because the PA
    didn't do it as much justice as it should.
    
    It could have been the PA but Mister_Testament_Vocalist :-)....his
    vocals stood out a little bit more than the rest. Nothing bad though.
    
    And like Steve said the cymbals could have used a little work.
    
    Other than that..I enjoyed it a lot.
    
    Uncongressional Mosh rules!
    
    
    Chris
466.294VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Tue Jan 14 1992 13:4617
    
	Let me be a little more specific...
    
    	The vocals did stand out, but they should. We brought them
    	down compared to the first mix and I think they're perfect.
    
    	As far as the cymbal levels needing work, not really. I'm happy
    	with it. They're up loud enough but not over-bearing. I wouldn't
    	have minded seeing the hihats up a bit more but like I said, I'm
    	still more then happy with it.
    
    	The setup you heard it on wasn't the best. 8-)
    
    	Unlike the first mix, this sounds good even on a chincy boombox.
    	On a home stereo with crappy speakers it sounds real good. On
    	a home stereo with good speakers it sounds great! [especially
    	F.D.D. 8-)]
466.295VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKjust an angel in disguise...Mon Jan 20 1992 17:288
    
    Apparently we just found out that Mystic Powers is being played over
    the local Worcester cable TV station. I believe it's a gig from the
    cove.
    
    We didn't even know! I truck driver that was staying in Worcester
    was talking to Steve at work and said he saw one of ours shows
    on tv. I nearly *&$#!
466.296KDX200::COOPERStep UP to the RACK !Mon Jan 20 1992 18:137
Pete,

If this is true, you should sue the sh*t outta The Cove and the station.
Did you sign a release ??  Our contracts all say "No video taping unless
accompanied by a seperate contract".  This way you get royalties.  :)

jc
466.297VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKOofty McGooftyFri Jan 24 1992 15:174
    
    Update time on the tape. We got a wicked deal on the jcards, and they
    should look great, with lyrics and lots of other stuff on the inside. 
    The first 100 cassettes are going to be ordered in two weeks. 
466.298VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKOofty McGooftyFri Jan 24 1992 16:34105
    
    
    Here's a list of radio stations that will be getting our tape.

WEGL 
Auburn University, Alabama  

KSUA
Fairbanks, Alaska

KUCI
Irvine, California

CKCU
Carleton University
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

UKC Radio                               
Eliot College          
The University                          
Canterbury, Kent
England     
      
C.L.Warnell
Darwin College
The University
Canterbury England

WFIT
Melbourne, FL 

WQAX 
Indiana University 
Bloomington, IN 

WMEB-FM
University of Maine
Orono, Maine  
 
WOZQ, Smith College

WRBB, Northeastern Univ.

WSKB, Westfield State College

WTBR, Pittsfield, MA

WCCH, Holyoke Comm. College

WCUW, Worcester MA 

WMHC, Mary Wooley Hall, MHC
    
WMFO, Tufts University
    
WMLN, Curry College
    
WMHW, Salem State College
    
WMUA, U Mass, Amherst
    
WHRB, Harvard Univ.

WKKL, Cape Cod Comm. College

WIQH, Concord/Carlisle High School

WJJW, North Adams State College

WJUL, University of Lowell

WMBR, Cambridge MA 
    
WDJM, Framingham State College

WERS, Emerson College

WFRC, Fitchburg State College

WICN, Worcester MA 
    
WAMH, Amherst College

WBEC, Pittsfield MA. 

WBRS, Brandeis Univ. 
    
WCHC, Holy Cross College

KRNU, University of Nebraska

WKNH, Keene State, NH.

WPCR, Plymouth NH 
    
WUNH, Durham, NH. 

WMDK, Peterborough NH 

WJTB, Clifton, NJ

WRUB, University at Buffalo
    
WPSU, Penn State 
466.299VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKOofty McGooftyFri Jan 24 1992 18:434
    
    BTW, especially non-Mass noters, if there's a college radio
    station in your area, and they have a metal show, and you'd
    like to hear us on it, send me their address and contact.
466.300VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKo-> != <-oMon Jan 27 1992 14:302
    
    Hey F.! How did the video come out?
466.301KIDVAX::CESCOBARCurse Of The Legions Of DeathMon Jan 27 1992 14:452
    
    You guys made a video???!?
466.302VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKo-> != <-oMon Jan 27 1992 15:152
    
    Just more reference material for the final vid.
466.303CADSYS::SIMSNS::FENNELLOne way ticket on your last chance ride"Mon Jan 27 1992 16:426
I'll see if I can figure out who to contact at WRUV (University of Vermont)
Burlington is a college town and there are about 10,000 students in their
broadcast area...


Tim
466.304VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKo-> != <-oMon Jan 27 1992 16:463
    
    Thanks, that would be excellent. I'm looking for a station in
    Burlington!
466.305POWDML::GOLDBERGLord of the WastelandMon Jan 27 1992 16:5711
    
    
    Pete, I haven't seen it!!!
    
    Johnny wanted to take it with him Friday night.  We were like OK.  Then
    he was working all weekend so we couldn't see it or get it.  I'm dying
    to see it and dying NOT to see it!
    
    
    
    Goddess F. who did the interviews and who probably looks dumb!!!
466.306MILKWY::LERitualofdarknessraisetheantichristMon Jan 27 1992 18:1726
    Re: Buck
    
    Oh, Thanks for dedicated me because the number "666" huh?  I want come to 
    /k's party.  But now I have to changed mine mind, probably who ever
    planning come that night all start back out now.
     
    
    Hey Pete,

	When ever you want to deal with American label.  Send me a tape so
    I give to people I know in Wild Rags record.  I've been helping Elizabeth 
    and Richard in the Eastcoast.  Like get information about bands and giving 
    out newsletter, upcoming release and etc....from Wild Rags record.
	I think you and the rest members of your band will like that 
    record label.  They signed lot of godly bands like:  Incantation, 
    Blasphemy, Rottrevore,  Zombified Preacher of Gore, Gorephobia, 
    Human Remains, Rotting Christ, Funeral Nation, Necrophobic, Phlegm,
    Ritual Sacrifice, Hellwitch and etc....If your band can get on one 
    of the Godly label should cool man. 

    -Dle
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466.307CAVLRY::BUCKROLLERcoasterROLLERcoasterROLLERcoasterMon Jan 27 1992 18:2026
    RE: Duy
    
    >Oh, Thanks for dedicated me because the number "666" huh? 
    
    No prob, dude.
    
    
    >I want come to /k's party.  But now I have to changed mine mind
    
    I'll be there...hope you can make it.
     
    
    >	When ever you want to deal with American label.  Send me a tape so
    >I give to people I know in Wild Rags record.  I've been helping Elizabeth 
    >and Richard in the Eastcoast.  Like get information about bands and giving 
    >out newsletter, upcoming release and etc....from Wild Rags record.
    >	I think you and the rest members of your band will like that 
    >record label.  They signed lot of godly bands like:  Incantation, 
    >Blasphemy, Rottrevore,  Zombified Preacher of Gore, Gorephobia, 
    >Human Remains, Rotting Christ, Funeral Nation, Necrophobic, Phlegm,
    >Ritual Sacrifice, Hellwitch and etc....
    
    Hey, does this label only sign Godly thrash/death bands, or do they do
    other kinds of rock music too?
    
    Buck, looking for a label for his slightly un-godly original music.
466.308VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKo-> != <-oMon Jan 27 1992 18:312
    
    IHIW printed shell cassettes are more expensive than I thought!
466.309VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKo-> != <-oMon Jan 27 1992 19:105
    
    Yo! Antention!  GAFF Productions is currently taking considerations
    for Mystic Powers next headliner at Ralph's in Worcester and the Stadium 
    Club show in Framingham. If your band is interested, send me mail
    (VCSESU::COOK) we need a tape (or see you live asap) and all that rot.
466.310CAVLRY::BUCKROLLERcoasterROLLERcoasterROLLERcoasterMon Jan 27 1992 19:195
    The Rattlers are interested, but does GAFF only book METAL or do they
    do hard rock like we are??
    
    
    PS - what dpes GAFF stand for?
466.311WRUV in Burlington, VTSOURCE::ZAPPIAI ^ MekonsMon Jan 27 1992 19:2611
    	Sorry, I don't have any contact name...but you probably already
    	have the address...
    
DISK$USO_SW4:[ZAPPIA.NEWS]ALT.ROCK-N-ROLL_METAL;1

   WRUV, Univ of Vermont
   Billings Student Center
   489 Main Street
   Burlington, VT  05405
 
466.312VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKo-> != <-oMon Jan 27 1992 20:254
    
    Buck, depending on the venue, I think that would go very well!
    
    GAFF is short for Gaffer I believe, Steve's nickname long ago.
466.313GAF. Great at ....POWDML::GOLDBERGLord of the WastelandTue Jan 28 1992 11:289
    
    
    Actually, its GAF.  And I know the true meaning!!   But for right now,
    it stands for Great Audio Fundamentals.   Buck, I'm stopping by today
    to talk with you about this...
    
    
    
    F.
466.314MILKWY::LERitualofdarknessraisetheantichristTue Jan 28 1992 12:2418
    RE: Buck
        
    >I'll be there...hope you can make it.
    	- I'll at the parking lot for sure.  But come inside the building, 
          I have to see what's up with people work there.
    
    >Hey, does this label only sign Godly thrash/death bands, or do they do
    >other kinds of rock music too?
    >Buck, looking for a label for his slightly un-godly original music.
	- They only sign death bands. 

    
    -Dle
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466.315VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKComing soon to LTN2-2/F15Mon Feb 03 1992 13:113
    
    The first 100 tapes are due tonight. However, we still have to get the
    j-cards printed up. Should take about a week.
466.316VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKMon Feb 03 1992 18:198
    
    BTW, as for the j-cards (cassette inserts)...
    
    We have to get blank ones done, then the printing we're having
    done for free. They'll be two sided, with lyrics, special thanks, 
    and all that rot on the inside. I believe the tapes will be all
    ready in two weeks (because of the printing). We get the first
    100 tapes tommorrow night.
466.317MR4DEC::JWHITMANThat was all she wroteMon Feb 03 1992 19:2710
    
    
    
    Pete, 
    
    Who did you decide on to do your tapes? have any prices off the top
    of your head? 
    
    We're doin tapes this week too.. Can't decide on who to go to about
    J-cards.. gonna check into something tonight... 
466.318VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKMon Feb 03 1992 19:316
    
    We got some friends who work in a printing shop to do the j-cards.
    
    We went to some place called Berkley (something). John took care of it.
    I'll ask him the name of the place tonight. The went for around $200
    per hundred.
466.319MR4DEC::JWHITMANThat was all she wroteTue Feb 04 1992 16:0911
    
    
    I'm going thru IAN, decent prices.. 50bucks for tape setup, 
    then 35 bucks for print setup.. 
    
    after the initial setup, it cost a 1.70 a tape.. not bad.. 
    Chrome tapes, clear cover with print on them...
    
    Still lookin into J-cards... 
    
    
466.320VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKTue Feb 04 1992 16:113
    
    Yeah, we looked into that, and for 5 songs/13 minutes it wasn't worth
    it for us.
466.32130380::MOSHER::COOKThe Cookster! LTN2-2Mon Feb 10 1992 17:063
    
    After a mix up, our tapes will be done tommorrow. The j-cards will be
    done either this week or next week. After that, they'll be going out.
466.32230380::MOSHER::COOKThe Cookster! LTN2-2Mon Feb 10 1992 18:072
    
    Ralph's in Worcester is no longer booking metal acts. 8-(
466.32330380::MOSHER::COOKThe Cookster! LTN2-2Mon Feb 10 1992 19:434
    
    Another demo update; 
    
    Demos will be ready next week, for sure!!
466.32430492::COOKCaught in a mosh!Tue Feb 11 1992 19:438
    
    The order of the songs on the tape are as follows;
    
    Life in the Fast Lane
    Uncongressional Mosh
    F.D.D.
    Invasion
    Armageddon
466.32530492::COOKCaught in a mosh!Wed Feb 12 1992 17:1329
    
    	Below is the list I have for people wanting demos. If you're
    	not on the list and want one, send me mail (MOSHER::COOK or
    	VCSESU::COOK)
    
	Greg Ferguson 
     	Mountain View, CA  
 
	Allen Frisby

	Kurt Dominik
	Lawrence, KS 
    
        Ian Goldie
              
	Seth Howes

	Hans Blokker
	1531 TE Wormer, The Netherlands

	BJ

	Chris Escobar
    
	Craig Brusseau
	Wilton, NH. 
    
	Kim Gallant
    
466.32630492::COOKCaught in a mosh!Thu Feb 13 1992 14:402
    
    BTW, the tapes are CrO2, Dolby B. 
466.327CAVLRY::BUCKNothing really matters...Thu Feb 20 1992 12:563
    I thought the early MP stuf (when I was jamming with them) sounded
    like a cross between W.A.S.P. and Maiden, but since John joined the
    band, the newer stuff sounds more like Mainen meets Sabbath.
466.328NEWOA::DALLISONSplatterpunx on acid...Tue Mar 03 1992 16:572
    
    Whats up Pete, did they find your UE key ? 8^)
466.329NOT!CAVLRY::BUCKI hate everything about you!Tue Mar 03 1992 17:004
    -1
    
    Why don't you ask Al Lebo?  He had tremendous seccess shopping his tape
    via a lawyer!!
466.330CAVLRY::BUCKI hate everything about you!Tue Mar 03 1992 17:426
    >Besides, I thought Donna shopped the tape for them.
    
    NOT!  They were paying some high-price laywer in NYC to shop their
    tape.  Every month they would send him an exorborant amount of money
    and he would send them a list of companies he contacted and their
    rejection notices.  I thought the whole thing was kind of naff.
466.331Never happin' captain!COMET::FRISBYAYou and me were meant to beTue Mar 03 1992 19:287
     You got that right Pete.  They'll throw it away!
    
    Find a honest lawyer....If you can! But that's like trying to find a
    singer in C.S.....IMMPOSSIBLE!
    
                        Frizkid
    
466.332Eric Johnson - Attorney-At-LawGROOVE::DADDIECOThat's Just The Way It Is .....Tue Mar 03 1992 20:5016
    Pete:
    
    Give a call to:  Eric Johnson - Attorney at Law 
    		     (not to be confused with "the" Eric Johnson of music fame)
     		     508-486-8941
    		     438 King Street 
    		     Littleton, MA 01460
    
    He has had much experience with recording contracts, preparation thereof 
    and negotiations.  He's a level-headed and common sense oriented type
    of lawyer who "listens" to what you want and objectively delivers
    workable alternatives based on your business requirements. 
    
    I recommend him highly.
    
    D.
466.333PEKING::PERKINSPNoone gets up from a DDTWed Mar 04 1992 12:099
    
    You're another GNR ain't ya!!!  You make people wait for x amount of
    years, blaming the delay on those blasted j-cards, but if you'd
    bothered to pull your finger out a short while back we could have
    been playing the demo on our own stereos by now.  Just remember what
    happened to GNR, if they'd been a bit quicker with the illusion albums
    they'd still be at the top of the charts......
    
    8^)
466.334CAVLRY::BUCKI hate everything about you!Wed Mar 04 1992 12:134
    >Those wascally j-cards should be done any day now. We went with 7
    >colors on the cover so it's taking a little longer than expected.
    
    I'm NOT holding my breath...
466.335CAVLRY::BUCKI hate everything about you!Wed Mar 04 1992 12:286
    Every week for like the last month it has been "the J cards should be
    done this week"...
    
    
    aka 'not holding my breath'...
    
466.336a suggestionCAVLRY::BUCKI hate everything about you!Wed Mar 04 1992 12:372
    Well, maybe then you should hold off on the "J cards will be done this
    week" statements until you have a FIRM committment frmo the printer?
466.337HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSFantasiesFullfilledWhile-U-WaitThu Mar 12 1992 16:215
    
    Pete, there's something wrong with your J cards!  I can read the words
    without a magnifying class!  :^)
    
    Chris D.
466.338insertsSOURCE::ZAPPIApunk rock pollyThu Mar 12 1992 18:573
    
    	Yes, they did!
    
466.339SUBURB::COOKSI`m the Ace Face in a Zoot SuitFri Mar 13 1992 11:402
    Who are Mystic Powers??
    
466.340HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSCall her at 1-900-DUM-SLUTFri Mar 13 1992 12:248
    
    The inserts did come out good.  You're welcome!  :^)
    
    I listened to the tape but I can't give you a review because I listend
    to it in the car. -> AM/FM/CASS with 1 speaker!  :^(  Next time I go
    down cellar to work on my kite project I'll stick it in the headphones.
    
    Chris D.
466.341the shape I'm inSOURCE::ZAPPIApunk rock pollyFri Mar 13 1992 12:5927
    
    	Pete,
    
    	My initial listen was on a portable cassette palyer of mine that 
    	is in about as good a shape of me at the moment, it has a bad
    	connection that causes one channel to fade in and out from time 
    	to time so I'll just give a quick & short reply for now.
    
    	Overall the package was real nice, the inserts as already mentioned
    	and the mix in sounded really good excoept for somethings I'm still
    	not sure are the result of the tape or not.  I did find the title 
    	track "Life in the Fast Lane" to have everyone coming though nice 
    	and clear excpet for you!  The drums seemed to be lost in the mix
    	but that may be the result of my tape player.  I will give it more
    	than another listen though, I like the energy that comes across
    	from all the songs and the guitar work is fine, bass too.
    
    	And like yourself, if I remember right, I enjoyed your first gig
    	at the Channel too.  It's not so much my relating the tape to your
    	live sound in which I thought all instruments and vocals came through
    	very good but again from my first listen the tape didn't appear to 
    	do your playing justice primarily on the title track but I'll have 
    	to go back for more listens and on another player for sure.
    		
    	Did I say short?
    
    	- Jim
466.342cymbals were lowSOURCE::ZAPPIApunk rock pollyFri Mar 13 1992 13:175
    
    	That's what I thought.  Also I should have said the cymbals were 
    	mostly what I heard as being low even on the bad player and it
    	must account for the overall low drum clairity that I heard.
    
466.343POWDML::GOLDBERGthrow me in the slamFri Mar 13 1992 18:4711
    
    
    Now you guys, dontcha know, the only reason why Pete is sending these
    out a bit at a time is because of strict quality control!  Each tape is
    listened to to make sure it is the best possible listening quality!
    
    Trust me, its worth the wait!   IMBO  (in my biased opinion)  8*)
    
    
    
    Goddess F.
466.344KIDVAX::CESCOBARThe Empty Can Rattles The MostFri Mar 13 1992 20:279
    
    The EscoBarbarian Reviews Mystic Powers:
    
    
    Great Demo!
    
    
    
    Actually, I'll put a longer review, but I'm kinda in a hurry.... 8)
466.345very brief reviewCAVLRY::BUCKSupport America's Coasters..RIDE THEM!Sun Mar 15 1992 16:0626
    I got my tape yesterday (thanks Pete!!).
    
    Here is a very brief review...
    
    I've only listend to this on my boom box...the cymbols are there,
    but I can bring them up with my lil 5 band eq, so they must be on
    a freq I don't have.  Overall I don't think the mix is bad at all
    ...much better than the first pass I heard.
    
    The only negative comments I have are 1) the guitar sound, and 2)
    the solos.  I'm just personally sick of that chorused guitar sound,
    and would have liked to have heard something more in the death vien,
    you know, burning mega distortion, minus fx (cept a little verb).
    
    Most of the solos leave me a little cold.  They seem, to me, to be 
    just sort of fast noodling.  Again, I personally would have liked to
    have had more themeatic solos that fit the songs better, but that is
    just me, another guitar player speaking.
    
    I don't particulally like that vocal delay thing on the first two lines
    of Invasion...it's like, it's there, then it never is heard again for
    therest of the song...any reason you guys did that??
    
    God, all these negative comments...overall, I like the tape...the
    J cards came out really nice, and the tape copy sounds good, so it's
    a nice package.  I hope it get's you lots of gigs.
466.346KIDVAX::CESCOBARThe Empty Can Rattles The MostSun Mar 15 1992 20:3773
    
    My review: 
    
    
    Life In THe Fast Lane:
    ----------------------
    
    	See I'm a huge Testament fan, and this song reminds me SO much of
    them. The vocal technique is just like Chuck Billy's [Testament].
    That's probably the reason I like the song so much. The rest of the
    instruments are there. They don't strike me as much as the vocals
    though.
    
    Uncongressional Mosh:
    ---------------------
    The only two things I don't like about the song is 1) it's too short,
    2) the 'bagged by cia a line'. The second one doesn't bother me that
    much, I just wish the chorus was a little longer so it doesn't seem to
    be repeated as much. I do like (again) the way it's sung. The bass and
    drums stand out a little more in this song.
    
    F.D.D:
    ------
    
    	I'm a fantatic double bass fan, so that's my favorite part of the
    song. The guitars sound a little ordinary in this song. The bass is
    pretty good. The only thing I don't like is the way it's sung. 
    
    Invasion:
    ---------
    
    	I have to agree with Buck. The part where 'agony' is repeated, I
    don't really like it. The rest of the singing isn't bad. The guitars
    stand out a little more in this song than the rest.
    
    Armageddon:
    -----------
    	
    	My favorite MP tune. I like everything on it. The drums, bass,
    guitar and singing. I can't find anything I don't like.
    
    
    
    Vocals:
    -------
    
    	Keith Poulin = Chuck Billy. IMO. So I pretty much like his style.
    
    Bass:
    -----
    
    	Steve is really good. Keeps the beat and never strays. Plus 
    he plays a BC Rich Warlock, like me. 8-)
    
    Guitar:
    -------
    
    	The rythm is great, but I agree with Buck that the solos weren't
    too awe inspiring. I did like some of them, but most didn't jump out.
    
    Drums:
    ------
    
    	I dunno about this drummer guy... he's real good, but doesn't show off
    his talent as much as he should. Should relax off the ride just a l'il
    bit. 
    
    
    All-in-all  I liked it a lot. J-cards came out great. even though my
    name was excluded ;')....
    
    
    Chris  
466.347a couple more commentsCAVLRY::BUCKWe heard the angels of madnessSun Mar 15 1992 22:369
    I think that Invasion is the best sounding tune on the tape, even with
    the weido echo thing.  Also, on the tag ending, curious why you
    sustained the last chord?  I think it might have been a tad more
    effective stacatto?
    
    Also, a slight nit, I don't know if I think the "A special f... off to
    the <insert several police dept. names here>"  Read sort of sophomoric,
    and I think some people (potential employees) might be put off by it.
    Also, the plural of "life" is "Lives".
466.348CAVLRY::BUCKWe heard the angels of madnessMon Mar 16 1992 12:264
    >The departments mentioned deserved it, so there!
    
    I just see it as a 'burning bridges' sor tof thing, that may very well
    come back to haunt you.
466.349DPDMAI::THRELFALLI ate the five bucks!Tue Mar 17 1992 14:464
    I got the demo Pete!!!  I've listened to it ONLY twice so far, so my
    review will have to wait...but I will say this:  Very professional job! 
    I like the fact that it's on both sides too!  Saves ya the trouble of
    having to rewind and all that b.s...
466.350Yo!GOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itTue Mar 17 1992 18:514
    Will do man, I got the tape today, but haven't had a chance to listen
    to it yet.  I'll be checkin it out tonight.
    
    gh
466.352Harrassment!GOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itTue Mar 17 1992 21:074
    Sheesh man, I just GOT the thing this morning!  I wanted to play it on
    a decent stereo to do it justice!
    
    gh
466.353Good work!GOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itWed Mar 18 1992 02:4063
    Ok, ok, I've listened to it a few times.  Just wanted to pop in here
    and do my review while it's fresh in my mind.
    
    Overall: good recording!  The songs are strong and the quality is very
    good.
    
    Comments:  
    
    I don't particularly care for Keith's voice that much.  I've never
    liked that particular vocal style (Testament, etc.) and that still
    holds true.  It's not *bad*, just not to my taste.  Plus, the range his
    sings in makes you adjust the EQ of the other instruments to fit around
    it and I think it kills some of the frequencies of those instruments
    that I like to hear.
    
    I didn't like the delay on the vocals on the first few lines of
    Invasion and Armageddon.  On Invasion, it seemed like the delayed
    signal had to come in too fast to get out of the way, so it was choppy
    sounding.  I think a second voice singing the line, but slightly
    overlapping with the lead line would be more effective.  The delay on
    Armageddon was too fast, almost sounded like a tremelo effect or
    something.  It might work if you doubled the delay time.
    
    The words in the title track blaze by so fast that there's no way I'd
    ever get 'em without the lyric sheet.  Whatever, that's just a style. 
    I don't particularly like or dislike it, just noticed it.  There were a
    few words or phrases in some of the other songs (F.D.D. comes to mind)
    that didn't seem to fit very well, but were still kind of jammed in
    there.  No biggie, I'll probably get used to it.
    
    I have to agree with what someone said earlier about the guitar sound. 
    I think it's too processed for this kind of music, especially during
    the solos, when the flanger (chorus, whatever it is) makes it sound out
    of tune sometimes.  Small duration time based effects (chorus, flange)
    get on my nerve if they're used too much and I think they are on this
    tape.  I think a dryer, punchier guitar sound would work better.
    
    High points:  Killer snare sound (too bad most of the rest of the drums
    are buried most of the time), Excellent bass sound, solid performances
    all around.  My favorite songs are Uncongressional Mosh and Armageddon
    (although I have to admit that I prefer the performances and feel of
    the version of the latter on the first demo tape you sent me to this
    one).
    
    Mix:  If I were mixing this, I'd have pulled the drums up just a hair
    and the vocals down a little.  I know that songs are built around
    vocals, but I thought these were still a little heavy.  I like drums in
    your face and these were kind of sitting in the background more.  This
    could be a result of what my stereo augments, I'll give it a listen in
    the Walkman tomorrow and see if I have the same opinion.
    
    Don't let these little negative things make it sound like I'm down on
    your tape or your music, these are really very minor issues as far as
    I'm concerned.  Like I said to start with, overall it's a very nice,
    professional sounding tape.  Congrats Pete.  Good work!
    
    Oh yeah...one thing, I'd probably leave off the explicit reference to
    DEC in the "Thank You"'s.  Just a CYA thing...
    
    What were you complaining about Buck?  You got an explicit "thank you"!
    
    Greg
                                                                           
466.354what a picky sod..GOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itWed Mar 18 1992 02:417
    Oh yeah, one more little nit...
    
    The J-card is so thick that it's hard to get the tape in and out of the
    case!  Maybe you could print the lyrics in a smaller font so you don't
    have so many folds in the thing or something...
    
    gh
466.355HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSNow where did I put that p_n?Wed Mar 18 1992 12:357
    I've seen some "J" cards that are folded almost like an envelope and
    the tape slide into it.  One side has holes in it for the cassette case
    spikes (or whatever you call them) to slide thru.  Maybe that would be
    better.  Then you caould leave the font size readable without a
    magnifying glass.
    
    Chris D.
466.356POSEUR PETE! 8)COMET::FRISBYAAnyway the wind blowsThu Mar 19 1992 18:555
    Pete...Tell us more about this POSER song "Reach for your heart".
      Sounds very unlike you guys...
    
                 Frizkid
    
466.357Dirty Laundry!!COMET::FRISBYAAnyway the wind blowsThu Mar 19 1992 21:186
    Did you write the poser lyric that HAVE to be in a song titled that?
    
     Give us more dirt....I like dirt!
    
              Frizkid
    
466.358KIDVAX::CESCOBAROne Card Short Of A Full DeckThu Mar 19 1992 22:174
    
    
    I don't know, but John sure liked playing it. Steve was havin' a ball
    watchin' you suffer Pete. 8-)
466.359POWDML::GOLDBERGwhat ifFri Mar 20 1992 10:5011
    
    
    Well, I like the song!
    
    
    So THERE (tm) !    8*)
    
    
    
    
    Goddess F.
466.360took me long enuff ehDPDMAI::THRELFALLmarble mosh!Sat Mar 21 1992 00:1374
Okay Peterweter.  Sorry it's taken me 7 years to enter this dag-blasted review
but you know how it is up here on 10 well actually no you don't so nevermind
then. 8)
Overall, very good demo!  (Wish I could comment on the inlay card, but it's 
kinda MIA at the momento)  I will say that I was suprised by how professional
the cover-art looked... I mean it's the same thing as before but MY what color
can do eh?  I haven't even had a chance to read the damn thing to tell you the
truth...

Okay, song by song here is my sacred review.

-Life In The Fast Lane-
	I like the beginning...it makes ya wanna get up and start bangin' your
	head but I can't exactly do that at this point in time cuz I'm not in 
	the right "atmosphere"...Er, yes I'm ready to GTFO can ya tell?  Okay,
	on with the show.  The singer definitely has balls.  I like his voice
	but not the way he uses it sometimes.  It's a cool song all 'n' all 
	thow.  The solo shreds, btw!  I can hear my phone ringing at home 
	right now but I'm not there.  This ESP can be quite annoying sometimes.
	8)  I tell you what though, that drummer sure is quite a maniac why 
	there's not even *one* drum-beatless moment in the song.  8)

-Uncongressional Mosh-
	This definitely ties with Armageddon as being my favorite.  I'm 
	extremely fond of changes in format like you did in the beginning.
  	It's like, "Ooh, fast tune.  No wait a minute!  Slow tune fast tune 
	slow tune fast tune slow tune fast tune" .........excuse me I get 
	caught up in vicious circles sometimes.  8)  Anyway, I like that 
	thingy.  It takes a pretty talented drummer to pull that off I tell 
	ya.  Again, the singer kinda er, needs to tone-down a bit to get that
	"hard-core" feel...maybe its just me but it seems like he's holding 
	back.  Whenever he says something to the effect of "You don't pay 
	you'll go away cuz you've been backed by CIA" I think that could sound
	so much more raw if he if he if he if he just toned down a little.
	The song rulz though, don't get me wrong!  Hell, you could probably 
	even spot me in the mosh pit at one of your shows...Speaking of that, I 
	can get you gigs all over the place down here dude!  There's a very
	big market for thrash in the Dallas/Austin area.  But that's a fact
	and I'm here to give ya an opinion...  Bonkers you say?  

-F.D.D.-
	What does this stand for?  Anyway, the guitar in the beginning is 
	gnarlier than the waterbugs down here!  It's like a short yet
	neverending kinda thaing.  Okay...the singer really gets on my nerves
	dude.  Sounds like he needs to clear his throat or something...and he's
	not even growling man!  Definitely needs to listen to more Deicide. 8)
	Uhh.  The drums are wicked fast and right on time just like their 
	supposed to be. ;)  Other than that, I don't know what to say...Like I
	actually know wot I'm talking about anyway you say?  I like the guitars
	towards the middle of the song when it just kinda stops and goes into a 
	(something) and fades back in real soft then you start bangin' away.
	Perfect!  But where's the drum solo?  This song would sound cool with 
	one right in the middle...  NEXT!

-Invasion-
	Okay, this is it!  This is the song that really gets ya psyched... Rape
	and pillage dude...I like the effects on the singer (helped a little it
	did ;)  But then I've always been into echos but thats a completely 
	different story.  Wot!  The songs over already?  

-Armageddon-
	At long last my favorite!  Not only are the lyrics a complete 
	masterpiece but the guitarist is really (doing something, whoa listen
	to that dude!)...I really think the basssist is doing something too, 
	but wot do I know??  But that drummer boyee, he tops 'em all.  8-P  
	The rolls sound perrrrrrrrrrrrfect and the double bass sounds (not so
	good for all those who think I'm just kissin' pete's ass...bend over 
	pete!)  No, in all seriousness, this song will take you straight to the
	top if you polish it a little more, but hey that's what they pay record
	company dudes for eh?  SATAN HAS FAILED!
   	
And no I'm not a scatterbrained bimbo! 8-P

'prrrril
466.361Long live WP!!opps_wrong note :-)WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnSun Mar 22 1992 03:3774
    AllRight,I don't like bein a critic because opinions are as endless as
    the unknown universe.But heres mine on the MP tape...
    
    I could hear everythin that I guess was wanted to be heard.I'm not
    technical on sound,as long as I can hear everything.Been playing
    it on a Panasonic 2 speaker cassette player so I know I could hear
    more on a better system,but for what it's worth I had It on full
    blast tonite with my head leanin againest the back of it.
    No Dolby ofcourse    ;_)
    I"m not havin any Prob pullin the J_Card outta the case becauase
    I'm wearin it out abit already.
    as for the Cuts..
    
    Life in the Fast Lane
    ----------------------
    Shit,I thought this was gonna be a cover of the Eagles tune....NOT!!!
    Unfortunately I think youse guys are gonna be helpin out the Police
    Depts.with this one because anybody listenin to this in there Auto_
    Deck are gonna wanna be havin the tendency to put the peddle to the
    Metal!
    There's a thin Pete does with the cymbles atleast twice in the song
    that made me think my phone was ringin...Is it just me???
    
    Uncongressional Mosh
    ---------------------
    My Fav on the Tape.I guess(to me)that this is the best that the band
    could capture this song on tape.All the changes fit and work well.
    Love the footsteps and the slammin of the door at the end.It perfectly
    says"See Ya"without any words.
    I don't think a Scag like me hs to worry about the CIA lokkin into me.
    Yeah,I know,Thats what they all say.
    
    F.D.D
    --------
    ALLRIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHHHHTTTttttt!
    Johns Solo caught me.
    I can't help but laugh along with Keith at the end of the song.Think it
    fits well.
    
    Invasion
    ---------
    War,Man.
    I find this one rather basic,but know that the band has been doin it
    for quite awhile.Wished someone"showed_Off"abit on the choppy end.
    But I'm gettin the idea that MP is a band.Not a showcase for one of the
    players.If I'm right,I like that.
    
    Armageddon
    -----------
    Another Guitar solo that sticks out to me.
    Glad you wrote these lyrics Pete,Because I played this tape to a rather
    Conservetive friend of mine and right away he said"AH,more Satanic
    Worshippin Crap".Well later on I MADE him read the lyrics.
    He shrugged and shut up for a minute.He is a good Bud but I hope this
    makes him listen to other types of music then he is accustomed to with
    more of an open mind.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------
    Keiths Lyrics are Pronounced(sung)clearly,and I know that isn't an
    easy job for youses guys type of music.Big + in my book.
    
    Steve(Mr._Drivin_Power)is......A guy I gotta meet.
    What part of Worm_Town is he from?I'm from Main_South.
    
    John,I'm sure can play many styles.
    
    Well,thats it on my end for now.Don't think I can make the Clinton
    show but if the WAG comes thru,I should be there.
    
              Crazy_Don't_call_me_a_Critic_AL   ;-)
    
    
    
    
466.362CSC32::J_HERNANDEZToBeTheMan,YouGottaBeatTheManTue Mar 24 1992 13:346
    I got mine yesterday, but got home too late to play it. So I brought it
    to work for a listen but I took my adapter home so I can't play it at
    all. 8^( 
    
    
    Cover looks pretty cool though.
466.363better review later...MPGS::HOWESMy heart stolen by your innocent waysTue Mar 24 1992 18:2612


	A better review later when I have time, but for now....


	DEFINATELY ROOLIN!!!!!!!!!!!

	I thought it was great!!  MUCH better than I expected!


						-Seth
466.364...and you can mosh to it. I give it a 99, Dick.LACV01::BUCHANANRead my lips - No More New Term!Tue Mar 24 1992 20:1711
    Pete,
    
    I got the tape Saturday while I in the Keys.  I brought it to work with
    me and am listening to it this very moment.  My immediate
    reaction......
    
    THIS SUCKER CRANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    I'll enter a more detailed review tomorrow.
    
    BJ
466.365How'd you mike it?GOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itTue Mar 24 1992 21:153
    Did you mike it top & bottom, or just top?  Sounded great!
    
    gh
466.366A very long-winded reviewLACV01::BUCHANANRead my lips - No More New Term!Wed Mar 25 1992 18:3973
    Okay, Pete, I won't make you wait any longer.
    
    Packaging..... the J-cards looked great.  The color was worth waiting
    for.  As someone else said, might want to use thinner card stock next
    time around, so the tape is easier to get in and out of the case. 
    You know about the typos already I'm sure.  Also, sometimes when lyrics
    are repeated, they reprinted; sometimes they aren't.  It's alittle
    confusing.
    
    Quality of tape..... no complaints there.  I played it on my home
    stereo, my car stereo and my sh!tty little Walkman clone.  Sounded
    great on all with improvements in clarity as the equipment improved.
    
    The Music...... EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Like I said before, I'm
    not technical, I can't play, but I know what I like and I REALLY liked
    it.  In fact, I was sitting at my desk today headbanging to it
    (fortunately no one saw me).  This sucker has BA!!S and it definitely
    rocks the house.  
    
    Suggestions.......
    
    Life in the Fast Lane...  I especially loved the music on this one. 
    Good thing, too, because I couldn't understand a word Keith was singing
    except for the chorus.  It didn't matter to me, though, cuz the music
    really carried the song.  However, after I read the J-card, it seems
    like the lyrics were trying to squeeze too much into each verse line,
    which is probably why he was rushing so much.  
    
    Uncongressional Mosh.... Like 'pril, I really got into those tempo
    changes at the beginning and it carried over well.  I like the vocal
    style Keith used on this one.  The lyrics had a good idea, but it seem
    not to get developed.  Song definiately needs another verse.  Another
    suggestion... I would've like to have heard a gunshot (preferably a
    silenced one) instead of a door slamming.  I think would have tied in
    better with the 'you been bagged by the CIA' line.
    
    F.D.D.... I loved this one.  Reminded of early Metallica.  The only
    thing I didn't like was that it ended too soon.  In fact, that's my
    majority complaint... the tape was too short,  I want MORE!!!!!!!
    
    Invasion... The double echo on the first two lines didn't really do
    anything for the song.  I think the second and fourth verses need to be
    repeated instead of just the second.  Or another verse.  Again, it left
    me wanting more.
    
    Armaggedon... I loved this one, too.  It tied with FDD for my favorite
    on the tape.  In fact, think it even beats it out because I like the
    lyrics better (you can't tell I'm into that, can you?)  Again, I would
    suggest changing the pattern of the song.  As it is, you do verse 1 2 3
    2 instrumental break and 4.  I would try 1 2 3 instrumental break 2 4.
    
    Overall comments.....
    
    I can't fault anything with the music...  the balance between the
    instruments sounded good to me.  The solos were all good and fit the
    songs.  It's obviously a band playing together and not four guys each
    taking their turn at showing off.  Generally (AND NO I AM NOT KISSING
    UP) I prefered Pete's lyrics to Steve's.  You have a more concise
    style, which I think is required, especially as thrashy (is that a
    word) as you guys are.  I think Life in the Fast Lane showed that
    particularly, though FDD was very good.  Keith has a good vocal style
    that definiately fits in with the rest of the band.
    
    To sum it all up, and you could probably tell by a couple of my
    comments, it absolutely left me wanting more!!  I haven't had it out of
    the tape player all day (nice touch recording on both sides, as my
    Walkman clone only has fast forward).  I think I've listened to it 5
    times today and it'll definitely be in my car stereo on the way home.
    
    Congratulations and good job!!!
    
    
    BJ 
466.367CAVLRY::BUCKLikeACandelInAnEmptyRoom,IBurnAloneWed Mar 25 1992 18:454
    _1
    
    Really?  I sorta liked Steve's lyrics better.  Why?  I liked his
    meter of prose.
466.368Another long-winded answerLACV01::BUCHANANRead my lips - No More New Term!Wed Mar 25 1992 19:0534
    re: Buck
    
    That's interesting, because it felt to me like Steve was frequently
    trying to force more words in than the meter would allow.  I also found
    some of the imagery to be alittle too vague.  Pete's style is more
    simplistic and I don't mean that in a bad way.  I think it's a case of
    less is more and I thought the words he used more clearly invoked the
    image he was looking for in a lot of cases.
    
    But then, again, we only got five songs to go by... so I may be way off
    base.
    
    oh, Pete, by the way, I had an experience very similar to Crazy Al's
    with your tape.  Me and the hubby were flipping through the channels
    the other night and caught one of those alarmist Christian specials on
    rock music.  They even had the nerve to state that it was a balanced,
    comprehensive review of rock music and then they proceeded to pick out
    avowed Satanists like King Diamond and death metal bands and hold them
    up like they represented the entire industry.  Typical!!!!!!!!!  
    
    We got in a vicious argument about the whole thing, particularly since
    he doesn't like metal and doesn't know what he's talking about.  I told
    him that the bands profiled were a very SMALL minority of the total
    rock field, and even of the metal genre itself and that there were
    plenty of the metal bands that weren't like that.
    
    The next day, he came in while I was listening to your demo tape and he
    started to make some rude comments when Armaggedon came on.  I took out
    the J-card and made him read the lyrics.  He was forced to conceed the
    argument.  
    
    Thanks for the score on the domestic tranquility front  8^) 
    
    BJ
466.369CAVLRY::BUCKLikeACandelInAnEmptyRoom,IBurnAloneWed Mar 25 1992 19:1415
    I found peter's meter to be all too much the same, and it's not one
    that I particularly care for.
    
    Bogus example of meter:
    
    	I just wrote this SONG
    	It didn't take too LONG
    	The music came EASY
    	The lyrics are SLEAZY
    	I just did my HAIR
    	It has such a FLAIR
    	The chick they'll be a JUMPIN
    	My love stick will be PUMPIN...
    
    
466.370Later dudes, BJLACV01::BUCHANANRead my lips - No More New Term!Wed Mar 25 1992 20:3316
    re: Pete
    
    You're entirely welcome.
    
    re: Buck
    
    Since we both like EJ, you know I'm way into the lyrics as well as the
    music.  I do like complex lyrics and I do like varied meter, but my
    point was that for the kind of speed metal Mystic Powers does (at least
    on this demo tape), I think Steve's trying to jam too much into the
    lines and it sounds forced on FITL.  I didn't find that to be the case
    on FDD.
    
    Anyway, since I seem to be totally misunderstood today, I'm going home!
    
    
466.371a different perspectiveCAVLRY::BUCKWe shall be a nation free as oneThu Mar 26 1992 01:5625
    I don't think I'm negative.  But, understand the environment which I
    was schooled in.  At Berklee, there was always room for improvement,
    always someone better, or something new to aspire to, always someone
    with a different outlook.
    
    Basically, I learned a few things:
    
    * Never rest on your laurels
    * Nothing is ever perfect
    * Be open to constructive criticism from others...you can grow frmo
      others insight
    * Keep an open mind
    * Always try to make a good thing better
    
    
    In summary, I think what I see as constructive criticism you may be
    just viewing as total negativity on my part.  Not really the case.
    Do I think the MP demo is good...yes.  Do I think the MP demo is
    perfect...no.  Do I have ideas how I would have done things
    differently...yes.  Does it really matter to MP...no.  Should MP
    care...maybe.  I don't think any band is better off if everyone always
    told them "Man, your stuff is the best, I wouldn't change a thing".
    If I have a somewhat strong opinion on something (like my comments on
    the guitar sound for the perceived genre), it was stated as FYI and
    to possibly help some decisions for the future.
466.372BUSY::SLABOUNTYHereComesTrouble&amp;ItLooksLikeFunThu Mar 26 1992 09:126
    
    	Yes, very well put.
    
    	Negativity doesn't necessarily imply dislike.
    
    							GTI
466.373XCUSME::JENNISONDream WeaverThu Mar 26 1992 10:534
    
    I also agree...
    
    
466.374For me as wellGOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itThu Mar 26 1992 14:5820
    re: Double bass in FDD

    No problem hearing 'em on my copy.  Loud & clear.

    FWIW, Buck's comments also apply to me, and he's said it much more
    clearly and concisely then I could have.  I never intended any of my
    comments to come off as negative or abrasive.  Sorry if they did.

    I've never been one to rant long and hard about how good something is
    (and the notes you've seen from me over the years, about virtually any
    topic, should testify to this), but I will often describe in detail
    things I might like to be different.  Call it a character flaw. 
    Doesn't mean I don't like things just because I think something might
    be better if it were changed.

    I thought you wanted to hear about things like that.  If not, then I
    can stop writing up what I'd do differently when I hear your tapes and
    just tell you how great they are and leave it at that.

    gh
466.375CSC32::J_HERNANDEZToBeTheMan,YouGottaBeatTheManThu Mar 26 1992 16:455
    Well I finally had time to listen to the tape. 
    
    Life in the fast lane is a pretty killer tune. The 2nd song was
    starting to sound good but then the piece_of_Feces tape player ate the
    sucker. 8^( If it is saveable I'll add more later.
466.376CSC32::J_HERNANDEZWay disillusionedMon Mar 30 1992 15:402
    It's still half hanging outta the tape player, I never had any time
    this weekend to try and revive it, maybe tonight.
466.378Now where is my review?COMET::FRISBYAAnyway the wind blowsMon Mar 30 1992 19:546
   Pete:
    
     You forgot the part where I'll stomp you in double-bass.  8)
    
               Frizkid
    
466.379Try some Scott Travis on for size!COMET::FRISBYAAnyway the wind blowsMon Mar 30 1992 20:0311
    Pete: You're ON!!!!
    
     "One" is WEAK! 8)
    
                What would CriscoPose know about double-bass?!?! 8)
    
         Speaking of him.....Where is that little bugger?
    
                    Frizkid
    
    
466.380KDX200::COOPERStep UP to the RACK !Mon Mar 30 1992 20:121
Can Casey do it too drummer-doods ??
466.381DYMNDZ::JUDYDevil or angel, only she knowsMon Mar 30 1992 20:157
    
    	Chris is hiding because he finally remembered to bring
    	in the Firehouse vid....and then left it in his car!
    	So Tigg and I still have yet to see it.
    
    	JJ
    
466.382 PYRO-CASEY!COMET::FRISBYAAnyway the wind blowsMon Mar 30 1992 20:164
    Coop: As long as he doesn't light the place on fire...8)
    
        Frizkid
    
466.383KDX200::COOPERStep UP to the RACK !Mon Mar 30 1992 20:199
I don't think that'll be a problem...  :)

FWIW - he didn't do it out at U-Station - the ceiling was too low.
But, I have seem pix of him on fire.  Sick puppy (if not slightly corny :).
He's gotta pretty mean kick too.  You might into know too (Friz) that he's
working a deal to buy that dbl bass yammie-kit-from-yellow-hell at Rice.
What a set-o-drums!

jc
466.384That ain't no lie!COMET::FRISBYAAnyway the wind blowsMon Mar 30 1992 20:235
    I don't goto Rice very often so I wouldn't know...
    
     Frikzid...Who says Skip could kick ALL of our @SSes!
    
    
466.385KDX200::COOPERStep UP to the RACK !Mon Mar 30 1992 20:332
Agreed.  :)  Actually, I can't say that as I haven't heard Pete play in 
a couple years...Althought I *am* supposed to get a tape soon...  Hmm ?
466.386Of course he has a few years on us. 8)COMET::FRISBYAAnyway the wind blowsMon Mar 30 1992 20:395
    Agreed! I've heard Pete...Skip wins.
    
                Frizkid..You should set up some lessons with him when
    you're out here.
    
466.387stiff competitionCAVLRY::BUCKHeartbreak BoulevardFri Apr 03 1992 17:335
    Hey Pete,
    
    Methinks you best quickly check out Mikey Heiser's new band Joyful Noyz.
    Their tune _Greater is He_ shows Mystic Powers a thing or two about
    HEAVY metal!!
466.388CAVLRY::BUCKHeartbreak BoulevardFri Apr 03 1992 17:3811
    >Sorry, I don't do Christian metal. 
    
    I donno Pete, sounds like a cop-out.
    
    To me, I have not analyzed ANY of the lyrics yet.  All I know is what
    the music sounded like, and it was *heavy* and solid.
    
    
    >and I'm not taking the bait. Good try though.
    
    No bait, just FYI.
466.390HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSDukakis in '92! :^) Wed Apr 08 1992 18:497
>>	From the North:  Take route 495 South to the exit for Route 62
>>	Berlin/Hudson. Head towards Berlin/Cinton on route 62 West. 
    
    Shouldn't that be "From the South"???  From the north, you'd want them
    to take 117.  It's much easier.
    
    Chris D.
466.392they always have a Zipper!CAVLRY::BUCKThe road to nowhere leads to meWed Apr 08 1992 19:011
    Bolton Fair roolz
466.393ISLNDS::TOMAODream Until Your Dreams Come True...Wed Apr 08 1992 19:073
    
    
    Zipper - BARF and spin
466.395HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSDukakis in '92! :^) Wed Apr 08 1992 19:2417
    It's been awhile, but I think this is correct.
    
    1st way:
    From 495 take 117 towards Bolton.  At the blinking light in Bolton
    center, turn left.  About 100 yards there is a fork.  Bear to the
    right.  Just keep going straight.  Eventually you'll come to where the
    road bears left at some railroad tracks.  Cross the tracks and still
    keep going straight (Water st.).  When you get to the end of the road, 
    that's Main st.  Turn left.
    
    2nd way:
    From 495 take 117 towards Bolton.  Keep going until you come to a set
    of light.  Turn left.  Keep going until you come to another set of
    lights just after passing under a bridge.  Turn right (Water st.).  
    At the end of the street is Main street, turn left.
    
    Chris D.
466.396Big State fairs can often s**kCAVLRY::BUCKThe road to nowhere leads to meWed Apr 08 1992 19:263
    RE: Mikey
    
    Agreed, me too, but sometimes less *is* more!
466.397HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSDukakis in '92! :^) Wed Apr 08 1992 19:443
    Mike, did my instructions look right?  You used to live there.
    
    Chris D.
466.398AD::FLATTERYWed Apr 08 1992 20:092
    ...er...is it me??...or is it getting a little anal/retentive in here
    on the directions thing......;'))............../k
466.399must be another conf.CAVLRY::BUCKThe road to nowhere leads to meWed Apr 08 1992 20:122
    People in here, anal?  Never!
    ;')
466.400HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSDukakis in '92! :^) Wed Apr 08 1992 20:196
    
    Hmmm!  I didn't see anywhere where someone was getting anal retentive.
    Pete didn't give the "other" instructions 'cause he didn't know them,
    so Mike and I did.  
    
    Chris D.
466.401I just wanted the x69, and to inform you all!MPGS::HOWESMy heart stolen by your innocent waysWed Apr 08 1992 20:268


I am going to the concert I believe...



						-Seth
466.402CAVLRY::BUCKThe road to nowhere leads to meWed Apr 08 1992 20:341
    *I* am going to Canobie Lake!
466.404HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSDukakis in '92! :^) Thu Apr 09 1992 14:446
    
    I second is down at the set of lights where 110 intersects.  There's a
    farm store on the corner.  Is that Bolton Orchards?  Anyway, when you 
    turn left you go by the correctional facility.
    
    Chris D.
466.4068^)CAVLRY::BUCKThe road to nowhere leads to meThu Apr 09 1992 18:271
    Wait, I'm not sure I know how to get there still!
466.407...let me at 'em.........AD::FLATTERYThu Apr 09 1992 19:232
    ...let the shootings begin...;'))............................../k
    
466.408GAMGEE::ROBRGecko's running wild in Hawaii!!Fri Apr 10 1992 01:425
    
    Speaking of directions, does anybody know how to get to Pete's show on
    Saturday?
    
    
466.409VCSESU::COOKStartin' up a posse!Fri Apr 10 1992 03:1925
Who:   Genocide, Sangiunary, and Mystic Powers!
Where: Rhythms, 601 Main street (route 62), Clinton MA.
When:  April 11, 1992. Doors open at 2:45pm. Mystic Powers is headlining.

    
	Directions to Rhythms in Clinton, MA.

	From the North:  Take route 495 South to the exit for Route 62
	Berlin/Hudson. Head towards Berlin/Cinton on route 62 West. You will
	through Berlin Center and eventually come to an intersection after
	some railroad tracks. Stay on route 62! Follow this until it intersects
	with route 70. Take a right. You'll pass by the Clinton court house
	and the dam will be in your left. Keep going straight and stay on
	route 62/70. You'll come to an island where a road breaks off to
	the right and the police station is on the right. Stay to the left
	on 62/70. It'll come around in back of the police station and come
	to a stop sign. Take a left, and go straight, you're still on
	62/70. At the bottom of the hill is main street. There's a donut
	shop at this corner. Take a right. 

	Rhythms is on the right after the Video store. It's 601 Main
	street. If you pass under the bridge, you just missed it!

	Doors open at 2:45.
466.410curiousCAVLRY::BUCKBreakneck speed is what I needFri Apr 10 1992 15:551
    WHo's playing first (Genocide or Sangiunary) and why?
466.414VCSESU::COOKStartin' up a posse!Fri Apr 10 1992 21:5556
    
    From the Daily Item, April 10, 1992.
    
    By Karen Kromer, Item News Staff
     
      CLINTON - Listen up, metalheads.
    
      Rhythms on Main Street will be the scene of an all-day heavy metal
    bash tommorrow, from 2:45 to 6 p.m.
    
      The show will feature three bands, including Clinton-based Mystic
    Powers, a band formed in 1989 by Steve Garry, who has also organized
    the show at Rhythms.
      
      In an interview earlier this week, Garry said concern over young
    people in town with little to do for entertainment prompted his
    involvement in the show.
    
      "The main purpose is to get kids involvedin something. It's good
    entertainment for kids who are unable to get into bars; and it keeps
    them away from alcohol," Garry said.
    
      The event is open to people of all ages. No alcoholic beverages will
    be served. There will be a $5 admission price, the proceeds of which
    will go to the bands and the club owner.
    
      Besides Mystic Powers, Clintonians can thrash to the tunes of
    Sangiunary, from Holliston, and Framingham based Genocide. All three
    groups have played in clubs from Boston to Worcester. Garry's band
    was featured regularly last year at Sir Morgan's Cove in Worcester
    and played several times at The Channel in Boston.
    
      Garry, 26, plays bass guitar and writes most of the songs. Keith
    Poulin is the lead vocalist. Both are Clinton natives. Rounding out
    the group is veteran drummer Peter Cook, from Los Angeles, and Hudson
    native John Lally, on guitar.
    
      "We play hard driving music," Garry said.
    
      He described their style as "fast, progressive and devastating heavy
    metal," which was influenced by metal mavericks Black Sabbath, Iron
    Maiden, and Motorhead. The group recently released their first
    all-original cassette EP containing fgive songs which will be heard on
    radio stations across the country.
    
      Sangiunary also has a demo tape in the can.
    
      Garry said the concert tommorrow is his first attempt at organizing 
    a multi-group event. Rhythms owner Wilma Feliciano said a big crowd is
    expected. She said pizza and hot dogs will be available at the show.
    
      "We're really into the people. There was nothing to do and nowhere to
    go in Clinton when I was growing up. There's got to be more," Garry
    said.
    
    [picture on the right]
466.415aackCAVLRY::BUCKBreakneck speed is what I needFri Apr 10 1992 21:594
    >the group is veteran drummer Peter Cook, from Los Angeles
    
    Guess you didn't want two people from Hudson in the band, eh?
    
466.416VCSESU::COOKStartin' up a posse!Fri Apr 10 1992 22:002
    
    I was born in Los Angeles. Media manipulation. 8-)
466.418VCSESU::COOKStartin' up a posse!Fri Apr 10 1992 22:273
    
    My father was in the Air Force. I had no choice, and I deeply regret
    it!
466.419CAVLRY::BUCKBreakneck speed is what I needFri Apr 10 1992 22:281
    I was born in Cheyenne, but...
466.420VCSESU::COOKStartin' up a posse!Fri Apr 10 1992 22:307
    
    
    Like I said, it's media manipulation. I might add that Steve gave the
    input. I would have said Hudson, but, hey, why complain.
    
    I consider where I am born as where I am from. I knew this would come 
    up when I posted it.
466.421VCSESU::COOKStartin' up a posse!Sun Apr 12 1992 14:327
    
    I'd like to thank everyone who made it to the show yesterday. For those
    who missed it, you missed one of our BEST shows!
    
    Special thanks to Chris and Seth for helping us out!
    
    
466.422VCSESU::COOKStartin' up a posse!Sun Apr 12 1992 15:224
    
    BTW, a couple people at the show yesterday said they heard Life in the
    Fast Lane on the radio in the afternoon. They didn't remember what
    station they heard it on but I'm guessing WCGY.
466.423VCSESU::COOKStartin' up a posse!Sun Apr 12 1992 17:494
    
> Secondly, how can an "all-day" event run from 2:45-6pm?

    	Hey, Karen Kromer wrote the article!
466.424MR4DEC::JWHITMANWhy do I want more?Mon Apr 13 1992 14:385
    
    
    Well, How was it!? You guys happy with the turnout?
    
    
466.425VCSESU::COOKGrimace musicallyMon Apr 13 1992 14:4719
    
    Well, I was happy with the turn out. For Rhythms, it was pretty full.
    We made out well. I wish the weather had been nicer. Everyone I talked
    to loved the show.
    
    Now for some IMHO's....Sangiunary is looking for a new drummer. Thank
    God! With a new drummer, they'll be MUCH better.
    
    Genocide did great. I really like these guys and look forward to
    doing more shows with them. All very cool people to work with.
    We're doing a show with them at the W.A.G. in Worcester on 5/1.
    
    Our set felt good to me. We ripped through the tunes at hyper-speed.
    No mistakes. Good reception and lot's of positive comments.
    
    The intro theme sounded way cool. Started with the theme from the
    Exorcist and goes into the beginning of Toccata and Fugue in Dm.
    
    
466.426MR4DEC::JWHITMANWhy do I want more?Mon Apr 13 1992 14:504
    
    
    
    How was the turnout of local 'kids'.. Alot of new faces show up?
466.427ISLNDS::TOMAODream Until Your Dreams Come True...Mon Apr 13 1992 14:5326
    
    <warning: This is non-technical inputs from a non-musical attendee :^) >
    
    I enjoyed the show Saturday - I planned on missing the first two shows
    and got there in plenty of time to talk to some folks from H_M and meet
    Tracey before they went on.
    
    Tracey and I slid up to the front and realized to late that we couldn't
    scream since we were right next to the video camera taping the event 
    and there were quite a feww times I wanted to scream my approval of a
    song. I am no music expert but will say that I thought they sounded 
    great - the lead guitar was really shy (kept hiding behind equipment), 
    the bass player was kicking butt and truly enjoyed the spotlight.  The 
    lead singer sounded pretty good - since I never heard the MP tapes and was
    not familiar with their tunes I was impressed with the lyrics I heard. 
    Peter seemed to really keep the pace and keep the band moving along
    from one song to the next and kept the audience interest at a peak.
    I liked it so much I bought a tape...BTW, loved the insert - I hope you
    saw it Buck.
    
    All in all very enjoyable - It was not a full house but I think only
    because the advertising was not planned well by the club.  
    
    Looking forward to the next gig.
    Joyce
                               
466.428VCSESU::COOKGrimace musicallyMon Apr 13 1992 15:0011
    
    re: .440
    
    Actually, there were a good amount of new faces. Alot of people I've
    never seen before, and alot of friends who usually don't come to
    shows because it's "not their cup of tea".
    
    I was p.o.'d about the owner not advertising but between uas and the
    Clinton paper, I think it was sufficient.
    
    Hey Joyce, how'd ya like my demon-from-hell pose? 8-)
466.429MR4DEC::JWHITMANWhy do I want more?Mon Apr 13 1992 15:073
    
    
    Well, thats cool! glad to hear things went rather well....
466.431Genocide is unbelievable....MPGS::HOWESMy heart stolen by your innocent waysMon Apr 13 1992 19:3219


	Here is my in depth review...


	The first band s (something - Death Metal) SUCKED!!! BIG TIME!!

	Genocide was awesome!!!  They sounded great, the guitarist
	rules!!!

	Mystic Power was awesome too.  Very good sounding...  Fast and heavy...
	
	Carrying the equipment sucked!! ;^)

	Dinner was cool except for the tounge stories!!!  ;^)


							-Seth
466.432ACK!POWDML::GOLDBERGout of orderMon Apr 13 1992 19:5110
    
    
    
    
    No kidding Seth!  Those tongue stories grossed me out!!
    
    
    
    
    Goddess F.
466.433SCHOOL::COOKGrimace MusicallyMon Apr 13 1992 19:532
    
    I think Genocide is good too. I think they go well with us at shows.
466.434MPGS::HOWESMy heart stolen by your innocent waysMon Apr 13 1992 20:0412


	Yeah, Pete, they do.. They are a *VERY* good group, they
	sound great!!!

	The guitarist is unbelievable!!  I love the way he jumps around
	while playing!! ;^)



				-Seth who wants extra carrots!!!
466.436The dude rules!MPGS::HOWESMy heart stolen by your innocent waysMon Apr 13 1992 20:1011


	Mike, it is like he is moshing while he is playing...


	Very cool!!!  I know it is hard to do, that is why
	I liked it!


						-Seth
466.437KDX200::COOPERStep UP to the RACK !Mon Apr 13 1992 20:315
Mega- difficult to play and mosh...

We have a saying in H-B "If you make a mistake, you'd best be posing."

jc (PoseBoy #1)
466.438MRVAX::CESCOBARThe Show Must Go OnMon Apr 13 1992 21:5110
    
    
    Yeah Richie (Genocide's guitarist) is WAY cool... you think he's bad..
    you should see him when he's hyped up... he's EVERYWHERE...
    
    RE: Tongue stories..
    	Yeah twas kinda gross wuddinit...
    
    
    
466.439METALX::SWANSONLifesAStageAndWereAllInTheCastMon Apr 13 1992 23:5115
    re: Genocides Guitarist
    
    And if you squint hard, he looks a little bit like Kirk Hammett.
    He *was* pretty good.  (Didn't quite have the solo to Four Horsemen
    down note for note though :')
    
    Great show Pete!  And the tape sounded good too!  Way better than I
    expected.
    
    Sounds like I missed dinner.... and tongue stories!
    
    |KS|
    
    
    
466.440SCHOOL::COOKGrimace MusicallyTue Apr 14 1992 00:472
    
    Thanks, Ken. I'm glad you like it!
466.441KIDVAX::CESCOBARThe Show Must Go OnTue Apr 14 1992 01:0314
    
    
>>    And if you squint hard, he looks a little bit like Kirk Hammett.
>>    He *was* pretty good.  (Didn't quite have the solo to Four Horsemen
>>    down note for note though :')                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
	Like I wouldn't notice!! ;')
    
    	He can do For Whom The Bell Tolls flawlessly though... at least he
    used to be.
    
    
    
    
466.442CAVLRY::BUCKBreakneck speed is what I needTue Apr 14 1992 01:105
    >	He can do For Whom The Bell Tolls flawlessly though... at least he
    >used to be.
    
    Not when I heard him do it...
    
466.443KIDVAX::CESCOBARThe Show Must Go OnTue Apr 14 1992 01:136
    
    
    Really... When was this?
    
    
    
466.444METALX::SWANSONLifesAStageAndWereAllInTheCastTue Apr 14 1992 03:045
    re:  "Like I wouldn't notice!"
    
    Yeah, I knew you'd notice!
    
    
466.445CAVLRY::BUCKBreakneck speed is what I needTue Apr 14 1992 03:172
    When they played it at Pete's practice.  
    
466.446SCHOOL::COOKGrimace MusicallyTue Apr 14 1992 03:302
    
    That was a cool bash, except for Keith being sick. 8-(
466.447KIDVAX::CESCOBARThe Show Must Go OnTue Apr 14 1992 04:0911
    
    RE: Buck
    
    
    	Well that's what I mean... over the summer in his old band
    "Sentinal" they played it great.  I didn't hear them play it at that
    bash...
    
    
    
    Chris
466.448POWDML::GOLDBERGout of orderTue Apr 14 1992 11:1810
    
    
    Maybe he doesn't want to do a cover song solos note for note.  I'm sure
    he has the ability.  There is lots of reasons why he would change the
    solo around.
    
    
    
    
    Goddess F.
466.449CAVLRY::BUCKBreakneck speed is what I needTue Apr 14 1992 13:126
    -1
    
    Very true, Goddess, and a good point raised.  Which is why I said in
    response to Chris' note "not the time I heard him" which implies he
    could have been changing it around or whatever. 
    
466.451rad requestOLTRIX::ZAPPIApigeon hole glassesWed Apr 15 1992 13:168
	I still have yet to hear anything on the rad.  I was tempted to 
	request it the other night during the Natsy Habits show but as 
	much as I wanted to donate to their ('ERS Emerson College) 
	fund raiser I had already given a small bit during the Niteklub 
	weekly show so maybe next time.

	- Jim
466.452SCHOOL::COOKGrimace MusicallyWed Apr 15 1992 13:263
    
    	WCGY will be playing it this weekend. Make sure to get those
        requests in!
466.453SCHOOL::COOKGrimace MusicallyWed Apr 15 1992 13:5413
	
    	Mystic Powers and Genocide will be appearing at the 
	Worcester Artist Group on 38 Harlow St, Worcester
	on Friday, May 1, 1992.  Phone # there is (508) 754-0545
			

To get to WAG, take the Lincoln Street/Burncoat Street exit (exit 20) off 
of Rt 290 in Worcester.  Go south about a 1/2 mile on Lincoln Street to your 
first traffic light (there will be a large yellow church on your right). Take 
a right at the traffic light on to Harlow Street.

WAG is #38 on the right at the bottom of the hill.

466.454jicPOWDML::GOLDBERGout of orderWed Apr 15 1992 14:495
    
    
    What time?
    
    
466.455WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnWed Apr 15 1992 16:114
    Pete,ya think yer gonna have tapes for sale at the WAG?
    I played the tape to some people and some wanna buy their own copy.
    
                   Crazy_I'm_99%_There_Al
466.456VCSESU::COOKGrimace MusicallyWed Apr 15 1992 16:414
    
    News on the "Symphony". We have it worked completely out 'til 15
    minutes right now. We plan opn changing the name and adding another
    5 minutes to it.
466.457NEMAIL::MERCIERYou are what you isThu Apr 16 1992 16:173
    Pete...whats the involuntary vacation all about??
    
    
466.458Thanks for the requestsVCSESU::COOKMetal thrashing mad!Tue Apr 21 1992 15:575
    
    I'm on the phone right now with Harvey Warfield from WCGY.
    
    Life in the Fast Lane has been played April 5th, April 12th, and 
    last night.
466.459GAMGEE::ROBRGecko's running wild in Hawaii!!Wed Apr 22 1992 08:394
    
    Remember that guy when he was King Halibut on WAAF?  Those were the
    cool radio days...  
    
466.460PAKORA::IGOLDIEEverybody wants someFri Apr 24 1992 13:038
    Pete,
         I got my hands on the "mystic powers" demo and it's damn good.I'll
    put in a full review tomorrow but just now my personal fave is 
    "uncogressional mosh".
    
    
    
                                                 Staynz
466.461VCSESU::COOKDrumming Unit #PRC00001Fri Apr 24 1992 13:074
    
    Cool! I'm glad you got it! Alot of people seem to like that song...
    actually it took a while to grow on me. I didn't like it at all
    at first! 8-)
466.462PAKORA::IGOLDIEEverybody wants someFri Apr 24 1992 13:167
    I liked it from the start,its very simple lyrically but the chorus is
    great,easy to remember,chant along kind of stuff.The demo has a very
    Iron Maiden sound to it.I'll write more abou it tomorrow,but in every
    respect,a big thumbs up from me!
    
    
                                                 Staynz
466.463VCSESU::COOKDrumming Unit #PRC00001Fri Apr 24 1992 13:266
    
> The demo has a very Iron Maiden sound to it.
    
    	Yep! Steve is the closest thing I've ever seen to Steve Harris.
    	F.D.D. reminds me alot of Killers-era Maiden except with
    	double bass. 8-)  Armageddon is also very Maiden-ish.
466.464COMICS::JAMESMSpiderman is having you for dinner...Fri Apr 24 1992 13:274
    Is there anyway a inferior Brit could get his hands on this Demo???
    
    Mark
    
466.465MASALA::IGOLDIEEverybody wants someFri Apr 24 1992 13:444
    I've got a copy and I'm in Scotland!
    
    
                                                 Staynz
466.466VCSESU::COOKDrumming Unit #PRC00001Fri Apr 24 1992 13:466
    
    Sure, send me your address via VAXmail and I'll send you the address
    to send your payment to, or we can swap for something.
    
    I have send a bunch more out anyway, but I'm waiting because I can't
    keep taking the loss I have been (i.e. people not paying).
466.467VCSESU::COOKDrumming Unit #PRC00001Mon Apr 27 1992 03:2330
    
    The Spring Music Conference went well. The first thing we learned was
    that alot more people know our name and music than I had ever thought.
    Everyone I talked to from CGY and everyone else liked the stuff, 
    including Warfield.
    
    We got our package to Critque/BMG and a few others, and we're looking
    forward to results either good or bad, as it will help us in the long
    run either way.
    
    They did a tape critique session and our tape was played. Steve and I
    got up and I talked a bit about it and responded to panel question
    for about 10 minutes. Got very good comments on our tape and real good
    comments on my responses afterwards. I was wicked nervous, playing in 
    front of alot of people is one thing, fielding questions and comments 
    from industry people is another! From what I heard and felt, it was 
    very very good publicity for us. They had me up there for the longest, 
    asked me all sorts of questions, one thing that came up was computer
    networking to help promotion. They liked the tape, packaging, and seemed
    to be imporessed with the press kit and my knowledge of how, what,
    where to get things done. It was a high point. 
    
    The seminars were very informative, and it was worth the money. Overall
    I came away with a good feeling about our future. There weren't
    many people from metal bands there, so we've gotten an advantage over 
    ALOT of others by attending this conference and starting to get the 
    contacts and information we need to get signed to the labels that deal
    with our kind of music.
    
    What, I ain't happy? 
466.468DPE::STARRRed Wine and WhiskeyMon Apr 27 1992 15:3019
re: pete

> I was wicked nervous, playing in front of alot of people is one thing, 
> fielding questions and comments from industry people is another! 

You did a good job though! I could tell that they were impressed with your
package and stuff, and that it seemed you had your sh*t together. (I bet
they hear a lot of music from people who aren't nearly as organized, or
who don't come across as intelligent as you did, or who are as willing as
you are to listen openly to suggestions and criticisms.)

> The seminars were very informative, and it was worth the money. 

I agree, it was a *very* good conference for the local musician. You could
find out a TON of information about a wide variety of subjects, and you
could make some good contacts. Pete, you shoulda stuck around for the 
Booking and Management panel, you probably woulda got a lot out of it....

alan
466.469Thanks, Alan!VCSESU::COOKMon Apr 27 1992 16:483
    
    I wish I could of, but I couldn't stick around that late. Any
    highlights?
466.470VCSESU::COOKMon Apr 27 1992 18:593
    
    I'd like to mention to out of state noters, if you have friends that
    like the tape, and want it, let me know. We can work something out.
466.471COMICS::JAMESMSpiderman is having you for dinner...Tue Apr 28 1992 08:124
    Mr Cook, I got the Maiden CD, so it will be heading your way in the
    immediate future.
    
    MArk
466.472VCSESU::COOKTue Apr 28 1992 19:475
    
    "Life in the Fast Lane" was played once again this past Sunday on
    WCGY's Boston Music Showcase around 7:15 or so.
    
    Thanks for the requests!
466.473GAMGEE::ROBRAll the same we take our chances...Tue Apr 28 1992 22:558
    
    While you are sitting around listening for your song, could you also
    write down how often they play Bohemian Rhapsody as well and post that
    info whenever it's played?  I'm sure everybody in here is
    just as interested in that info as well as the Mystic Powers play
    schedule and your buddy Harvey.
    
    
466.474VCSESU::COOKWed Apr 29 1992 01:367
    
    First of all, I don't listen to the show. I call the radio station for
    the information or I'm told by others who've heard it that it was played.
    
    Second of all, I think your comments are uncalled for and immature.
    
    /prc
466.475Pete, want to jump from a plane by any chance? :')GAMGEE::ROBRAll the same we take our chances...Wed Apr 29 1992 04:537
    
    
    Thanks you, I just love knowing just how immature I am.  You should
    have seen the original note :').  Just keeps me knowing that I am not
    aging as quickly as the rest of you people out there.
    
    
466.476VCSESU::COOKWed Apr 29 1992 12:237
    
    I'll pass on that, but thank you for the offer.
    
    If I'm somehow offending people by putting updates on the band
    in here, I'll stop doing so.
    
    /prc
466.477COMICS::JAMESMO-&gt; + O-+ = :)Wed Apr 29 1992 13:006
    .499
    
    I thought that was why this conference was in existance, so people
    could be kept upto date on what bands were doing!!
    
    Mark
466.478VCSESU::COOKWed Apr 29 1992 13:214
    
    re: .501
    
    That's what I thought too.
466.479BTW,I didn't request MP on the radio.;-)WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnWed Apr 29 1992 14:594
    Shite,With over 500 repliezz in here,some good stuff must have been
    mentioned.
    
                          Crazy_I_think_so_AL
466.480NEEPS::IRVINEI gonna build the Wall again...Wed Apr 29 1992 15:085
    Satynz... your trade mark has been stolen.... -1::::
    
    ;^)
    
    Bonzo
466.481DPDMAI::THRELFALLWhat's wrong with your mind!?!Wed Apr 29 1992 15:411
    I think rob was being a little pissy-faced myself.  8-P
466.482Shite(tm)WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnWed Apr 29 1992 16:003
    Shite,Bonzo.
    
       Crazy_I'm_not_stealin_I'm_Usin_Al
466.483that should be six other topicsLACV01::BUCHANANRead my lips - No More New Term!Wed Apr 29 1992 19:036
    Rob-dude, whatcha busting on Pete for?  He's talking about Mystic
    Powers in the MP note.  It ain't like he was cross posting
    announcements all over muttering and six othe topics.... what's the
    problem?
    
    BJ
466.484DPDMAI::THRELFALLWhat's wrong with your mind!?!Wed Apr 29 1992 19:221
    Yeah Rob, that's so unlike you.  ;)
466.485Rob busts on everyone equally!COMET::FRISBYAI'll be in your hearts forevermoreWed Apr 29 1992 20:552
    NOT!
      
466.486GAMGEE::ROBRAll the same we take our chances...Thu Apr 30 1992 01:506
    
    maybe i should post all the fan mail i got :')
    
    (you guys know who you are!  :'))
    
    
466.487SUBURB::COOKSMom threw away my best porno magThu Apr 30 1992 07:195
    This sort of reminds me of the 3 Scousers from the Harry Enfield
    Television programme.
    
    Er,carry on.
    
466.488PEKING::PERKINSPOh dear. That's seen better days, hasn't it.Thu Apr 30 1992 08:3410
    
    "Less than children"
    
    Actually I'm still in my first childhood.
    
    Okay Pete, you're obviously highly enthusiastic about Mystic Powers and
    I wish you all the best, but as of late the replies in this topic have
    been repetetive and uninformative.  Yes, I do hit next unseen.
    
    Flip  
466.489VCSESU::COOKThu Apr 30 1992 12:293
    
    Well, that's not surprising, I mean, you haven't even heard the
    material.
466.490SLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownThu Apr 30 1992 13:068
    I've never met Pete but I know a lot about his band history because he
    tells us about the good and the bad. over the part few years I've seen 
    Pete talk about the bands he has been in, and its great to see one 
    working out the way he wants, thumbs up to you Pete ! keep pounding out 
    the beat ! and hey its in the right note too ! so whats wrong with that ?
    
    
    Chris
466.491VCSESU::COOKThu Apr 30 1992 13:1020
	Who:	Mystic Powers, with Genocide supporting.
	Where: 	Worcester Artist Group, 38 Harlow St, Worcester
	When:   Friday May 1, 1992  
    	
    	Genocide goes on at 8pm. We go on at 9pm.

	Our new cassette EP, Life in the Fast Lane, will be available at 
	the show. 
    
	Directions:

	To get to WAG, take the Lincoln Street/Burncoat Street exit (exit 20) 
	off of Rt 290 in Worcester.  Go south about a 1/2 mile on Lincoln 
	Street to your first traffic light (there will be a large yellow 
	church on your right). Take a right at the traffic light on to Harlow 
	Street.

	The WAG is #38 on the right at the bottom of the hill.

466.492You know who I side with on this. Big smile PETE!COMET::FRISBYAI'll be in your hearts forevermoreThu Apr 30 1992 13:564
    SPANK!
    
     Frizkid
    
466.493MR4DEC::JWHITMANWhy do I want more?Thu Apr 30 1992 14:074
    
    
    
    Com'on guys, don't hold back... Tell us how you REAAALLLYY feel!
466.494VCSESU::COOKFri May 01 1992 13:478
    
	[moved from 22.*]
        
    	Just a reminder that we're going on tonight at 9pm. Tapes available
    	at the show. Genocide will be going on at 8pm. Great band, don't
    	miss 'em!
    
    	
466.495VCSESU::COOKFri May 01 1992 19:482
    
    Yo Staynz, gotta review yet? Inquiring minz wanna know! 8-)
466.496KIRKTN::IGOLDIEEverybody wants someFri May 01 1992 19:598
    Pete,
        I wrote some comments down on a piece of paper as my memory is
    crap.....what was I talking about?Anyway,its in the house and i'll
    write a review tomorrow.But basically a big thumbs up from me!!
    
    
    
                                                Staynz
466.497DPDMAI::THRELFALLWhat's wrong with your mind!?!Fri May 01 1992 21:587
    Glad to see things have cooled down in this topic.  
    
    I for one am glad to see Pete's band going places.  See, hard work 
    and originality do pay off!  I'm happy for your success Pete.  Don't
    let anyone or anything get in the way of it.
    
    'pril
466.499VCSESU::COOKSat May 02 1992 20:428
    
    
    I'd like to thank everyone who came last night. The headlining band was
    from New York, a band called Outpatient. They were good! The show went
    well and the pit was killer!!! Best all ages show crowd yet.
    
    Upcoming info...we're going to be doing an interview on WBIV 1060AM's
    metal show. I'll post the date later on.
466.500I mean 'headlining'..MPGS::HOWESNow I'm safe in the eye of the tornadoSun May 03 1992 07:1614


	WHAT?!?!?!?! HEADLING BAND?!?!?!?!!?!?!?


	WE LEFT AFTER YOU GUYS!!!!  No one said there were
	more bands?!?!?!?


	AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!


						-Misinformedypooh!
466.501VCSESU::COOKMon May 04 1992 14:3511
    
    I just got off the phone with Rod Stevens from Critique/BMG records.
    He was one of the industry reps at the SMC. He's listened to the first
    half of the tape and wants to spend some more time on it. I'll talk
    to him more on Wednesday. He seemed very positive, and I was surprised
    he listened to more than the first song (you know how A&R reps can be).
    
    I doubt we'd get signed, but at worst, any feedback I can get from him 
    will help us in the long run when soliciting to other companies.
    
    /prc
466.502DPE::STARRRed Wine and WhiskeyMon May 04 1992 15:4313
>    I just got off the phone with Rod Stevens from Critique/BMG records.
>    He was one of the industry reps at the SMC. 

I tell ya Pete, that seminar was great for connections, huh? I just got off
the phone with the guy from Don Law - he listend to the tape, liked it a lot,
and wants to come hear us sometime! If I had approached him cold, he probably 
never would have listened to the tape (he said he gets 50-100 tapes a week!).
But he listened to it right away, and sounds like he might give us a shot!
(Not bad, considering this guy also books Great Woods and the Orpheum!)

Cool about BMG - keep us updated on what he has to say, eh?

alan
466.503VCSESU::COOKMon May 04 1992 15:579
    
    re: Alan
    
    Wish I stayed longer, we could use an "in" at Don Law, we're trying to
    get into the Paradise and Axis, etc... That's good to hear!!
    
    /prc
    
    
466.504VCSESU::COOKMon May 04 1992 16:316
    
    Who:   Mystic Powers!
    When:  Thursday June 11, 1992
    Where: Mr Tipps, Billerica MA. Hosted by WCGY 93.7 FM. 
    
    Stay tuned to WCGY for further details.
466.505HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSParking Lot Flyer!!Mon May 04 1992 17:042
    
    Ages???
466.50621+ 8-(VCSESU::COOKMon May 04 1992 17:041
    
466.507HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSParking Lot Flyer!!Mon May 04 1992 17:173
    Well, that leaves half of Billerica out!  :^)
    
    Chris D.
466.508VCSESU::COOKMon May 04 1992 19:483
    
    The radio interview will be on Saturday night May 16th, after midnight
    on WBIV 1060 AM.
466.509Good show!!!!!!!MPGS::HOWESNow I'm safe in the eye of the tornadoMon May 04 1992 20:1717


	Pete, you guys were great on Friday!!!  MUCH better than you
	were at Rythms (not to say you weren't good there) but your
	sound, and covers seemed to be a lot smoother at this show..

	Geneocide was good, but they were too loud, it was like an
	overload, and you couldn't really HEAR the music...

	The pit was funny I thought!!!!! hahahahaha!!!

	My friend Al had a great time, and like you guys a lot, he even
	bought a tape  ;)


								-Seth
466.510GOES11::G_HOUSEUnder my wheelsMon May 04 1992 20:204
>	My friend Al had a great time, and like you guys a lot, he even
>	bought a tape  ;)
    
    You mean Crazy_Al?
466.511MPGS::HOWESNow I'm safe in the eye of the tornadoMon May 04 1992 20:269

	No, a friend of mine named Al.....


	You know Greg there is more than one Al in the world.. ;^) hehehe


							-Seth
466.512CAVLRY::BUCKFly AIR Phoenix!Mon May 04 1992 20:341
    But only one Al means anything in HM
466.513It was for Pete anyway so thair... 8^PMPGS::HOWESNow I'm safe in the eye of the tornadoMon May 04 1992 20:3711


	Hey Buckmiester, MYOB!!!!!!	8^pPpPpPpP


	Pete knows who I was talking about, and the note was directed
	at him......  


								-Seth
466.514CAVLRY::BUCKFly AIR Phoenix!Mon May 04 1992 20:394
    >                 -< It was for Pete anyway so thair... 8^P >-
     
    Send/author works great then!
    8^)
466.515Do I care? ;^) heheheMPGS::HOWESNow I'm safe in the eye of the tornadoMon May 04 1992 20:4313
     
>    Send/author works great then!
>   8^)

	I guess, but why make my life harder? It was MUCH easier to 
	write a note here....

	If you guys don't like it.... TOUGH!!!!!


							-Attitudeypooh

466.516VCSESU::COOKMon May 04 1992 20:472
    
    Crazy Al was dere too!
466.517WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnTue May 05 1992 13:006
    Yeah,I was there.Seth had already left but I got to talk to the 
    Goddess for awhile,and the guys in the band afterwards.
    The band was Hot and my brother was impressed.
    Last time I hit a pit,tho.I mustta landed on my butt 3 or 4 times.
    
                      Crazy_Abit_sore_Al
466.518MPGS::HOWESNow I'm safe in the eye of the tornadoTue May 05 1992 19:3610


	Al you came after MP????


	I was there until after Mystic Powers...


							-Seth
466.519VCSESU::COOKTue May 05 1992 19:422
    
    Al saw the show, I talked to him after.
466.520VCSESU::COOKWed May 06 1992 17:356
    
    Correction: The interview on WBIV 1060 AM is on Saturday May 16th.
    When I talk to Jo Jo on Saturday I'll try and find out approximately
    what time.
    
    
466.521Interview on WBIV's metal show, 12-3 SaturdayVCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Sat May 09 1992 16:367
    
    I finally got in touch with Jo Jo Gun from WBIV. She loves the tape!
    (psyche!)
    
    If you want to listen in, She'll be playing one of the songs tonight
    on the show and advertising the interview next week. It'll be on
    at 12:30 Saturday night, May 16. 1060 on the AM dial.
466.522Taping?CTHQ2::DELUCOCT, Network ApplicationsTue May 12 1992 16:497
    Re the June 11th gig.  Is Mr Tipps the old Edible Rex club?  I had
    heard that Edible Rex was out of business?  Also, are you interested in
    being filmed?  I've been filming bands as a hobbie for a couple of
    years using 8mm, cabled remote microphones and you'd be surprised at
    the quality of audio.  Naturally, I would give you a copy of the tape.
    
    	Jim
466.523DDIF::MCBRIDEWe make photons the old-fashioned way. We burn things!Tue May 12 1992 16:537
Mr. Tipps and Edible Rex are not the same place.  The Rex is at the Concord
Rd. exit from Route 3 and Tipps is at the Treble Cove Road exit from Route 3.

Last I heard the Rex was still Edible, though it does smell bad. :-)

-- 
Kevin
466.524VCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Tue May 12 1992 16:538
    
    
    Mr. Tipss is off of exit 28 (rt 3). Not sure if it's the old edible rex
    or not. I didn't hear that it was out of buisness.
    
    We'd love to be filmed! Send me mail and we can arrange something.
    It's going to be a great show. We're getting ALOT of exposure from
    WCGY lately.
466.525HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSWHO.....MADE.....YOU!!!Tue May 12 1992 19:027
    
    Kevin's right.  Tipps and Rex are two different places.  Tipps is
    Treble Cove rd., exit 28 off of rt3.  Rex is Concord rd, exit 27 off of
    rt3.  Don't know if Edible Rex is still open or not.  They were having
    problems with the neighbors and the town.
    
    Chris D.
466.526MR4DEC::JWHITMANWhy do I want more?Tue May 12 1992 20:195
    
    
    
    It was open a week or 2 ago.... I heard nothing about it closing
    down..
466.527Mr. Tipp's is renamedMSHRMS::FOSTERFantastically OriginalWed May 13 1992 17:085
    Mr. Tipp's is changing it's name to the Pavilion... found this out
    yesterday when I spoke to Nick...fyi
    
    Droid
    
466.528..;')....AD::FLATTERYWed May 13 1992 17:222
    ...hey pete....thanks for the tipp............sorry, could've
    resisted.... didn't................................wagagagagaga..../k
466.529VCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Wed May 13 1992 18:352
466.530VCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Thu May 14 1992 15:575
    
    There's a very good chance we will be playing EM Loews in Worcester
    the first week in June. 
    
    Also, I have a big announcement coming up concerning the Rathskeller!
466.531VCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Fri May 15 1992 13:598
 
	Reminder: 
    
	Steve Garry and I from Mystic Powers will be interviewed live, 
    	this Saturday night at 12:30 on the Jo Jo Gun Heavy Metal show 
    	on WBIV 1060 AM. Tune in, we'll also be taking phone calls and 
    	playing tunes off the new EP.
 
466.532HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSWHO.....MADE.....YOU!!!Fri May 15 1992 15:262
    
    AM??  not FM??
466.533VCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Fri May 15 1992 15:393
    
    That is correct. 1060 on your AM dial. We're expanding to new markets. 
    8-)
466.534CTHQ1::DELUCOCT, Network ApplicationsFri May 15 1992 16:023
    Good, I'll tell my mother :')
    
    Jim
466.535VCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Fri May 15 1992 16:093
    
    The show is good. I listened to it last weekend. I seriously doubt
    your mother would be interested.
466.536TIE YOUR MOTHER DOWN!COMET::FRISBYAI was dreaming I was Al CaponeFri May 15 1992 16:124
    Mine would though....After I tied her down.
    
          Frizkid....Sorry, just a little Queen joke!
    
466.537Who, you?!MSHRMS::FOSTERFantastically OriginalFri May 15 1992 17:158
    	> Frizkid....Sorry, just a little Queen joke!
    
    	Yer a little Queen, Frizkid ?!  8^)
    
    	Sorry, you set it up!
    
    	Droid
    
466.538CAVLRY::BUCKHearts of the Wild!Fri May 15 1992 17:505
    >      Yer a little Queen, Frizkid ?!  8^)
     
    Something us 'ole time' HMers have known for years!
    ;')
    
466.539HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSWHO.....MADE.....YOU!!!Fri May 15 1992 18:205
    
    So Pete, you and Steve gonna pull a Tesla and do a live accoustical
    version of Armageddon in the studio??   :^) :^) :^)
    
    Chris D.
466.540VCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Fri May 15 1992 18:425
    
    I doubt it. That is a good idea though. My friend Al has an acoustic
    fretless bass. Maybe I can do some footwork!
    
    
466.542VCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Fri May 15 1992 19:192
    
    Paul, Kristy, Tim, and comments?
466.543GAMGEE::ROBRMaking arrows out of pointed words...Sat May 16 1992 05:135
    
    re: .573
    
    why start now :')
    
466.544VCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Mon May 18 1992 13:563
    
    The interview went well! I also got some great contacts. I have
    it on tape if anyone's interested.
466.545HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSWHO.....MADE.....YOU!!!Mon May 18 1992 13:575
    
    There is not one radio in my house that could pick up that station. 
    Where is it based??
    
    Chris D.
466.546VCSESU::COOKHerr Cookster!Mon May 18 1992 14:017
    
    The station is in Boston ant the corner of Comm and Brighton Ave 
    and the tower is in Natick. The signal is weaker at night than in 
    the day. 
    
    We'll be doing more, definitely one at WJUL in Lowell. You should 
    be able to pick that up.
466.547HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSWHO.....MADE.....YOU!!!Mon May 18 1992 14:504
    
    I can pick up JUL no problem.
    
    Chris D.
466.548VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersMon May 18 1992 17:4613
    
    Reminder:
    
    Who:   Mystic Powers!
    Where: Mr. Tipps, Billerica MA. Hosted by Harvey Warfield and WCGY 93.7 FM
    When:  Thursday June 11, 1992
    
    The show will be advertised on Warfield's afternoon show the week of
    June 11, and our material played on Harvey's Boston Music Showcase on 
    June 7, 1992.
    
    Discount tickets will be sent out on the mailing list. If you are not
    on the list and want to be, send me VAXmail.
466.549BRAT::MATTHEWSDEAth StarMon May 18 1992 21:2512
    >      Yer a little Queen, Frizkid ?!  8^)
    >>>>  Something us 'ole time' HMers have known for years!
        
    
    
    Really I thought all that was rumor :*)
    
    I guuess it is true what you read :*)
    
    			wendy o'
    
    
466.550VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersSun May 24 1992 19:391
    Yo, Staynz, what do ya think?
466.551PAKORA::IGOLDIESo be it....!Mon May 25 1992 06:169
    well Pete,I've was going to mail you a review first but I can't get
    through to your account.I keep getting something like no such node..?!?
    But a friend of mine was checking it out on saturday and thought it was
    very good,so all round a big thumbs up from me and the few friends of
    mine I played it too.
        
    
    
                                                 Staynz
466.552VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersWed May 27 1992 15:3713
    
    Reminder:
    
    Who:   Mystic Powers!
    Where: Mr. Tipps, Billerica MA. Hosted by Harvey Warfield and WCGY 93.7 FM
    When:  Thursday June 11, 1992
    
    The show will be advertised on Warfield's afternoon show the week of
    June 11, and our material played on Harvey's Boston Music Showcase on 
    June 7, 1992.
    
    Discount tickets will be sent out on the mailing list. If you are not
    on the list and want to be, send me VAXmail.
466.553VCSESU::COOKI am a VikingSun May 31 1992 16:016
    
    Mystic Powers will appear at EM Loews on Main street in Worcester, MA
    on Saturday night, June 6, 1992!!
    
    Ten years ago I saw Alice Cooper here. This is a show you won't want to
    miss!
466.554Get together?WMOIS::MAZURKASon of the DawnMon Jun 01 1992 11:366
    F'in HEY!!!!
    Who else is on the bill?
    Maybe we could all meet and if the F_of_dots can make it,we can make
    it into some kind of send off party!!???
    
               Crazy_Congrax_to_M_P_Al
466.555VCSESU::COOKI am a VikingMon Jun 01 1992 12:224
    
    Sounds cool to me!
    
    Further details coming soon...
466.556VCSESU::COOKI am a VikingMon Jun 01 1992 19:1711
    
    I heard back from Critique/BMG records. The A&R rep really likes the 
    material! 
    
    Unfortunately, their roster is full right now and he would want to 
    dedicate alot of time to a project such as ours. Meanwhile he will 
    keep us in consideration, and pass along the good word to other record 
    companies' A&R reps. He said we could very well be hearing from
    someone.
    
    What, I'm NOT psyched?!
466.557HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSWHO.....MADE.....YOU!!!Mon Jun 01 1992 19:222
    
    Deja Vu!!!!   :^)
466.558DREGS::BLICKSTEINMariah Carey's FianceTue Jun 02 1992 13:283
    re: .-1
    
    Ditto
466.559VCSESU::COOKI am a VikingTue Jun 02 1992 13:332
    
    So take it to ::DEJAVU. 8-) 
466.560VCSESU::COOKI am a VikingWed Jun 03 1992 14:1614
    
    
    Mystic Powers will be appearing at the following places:
    
    THIS *Friday* night, June 5, 1992 at EM LOEWS on main street in
    Worcester, MA. 
    
    NEXT Thursday, June 11, 1992 at MR. TIPPS, Billerica MA. Hosted by 
    Harvey Warfield and WCGY 93.7 FM. Tune into WCGY next week during
    Warfield's afternoon show, this show will be advertised. Tune in
    this Sunday night to hear the title track from the new EP.
    
    Discount tix available for the Mr. Tipps show.
    
466.561Smells like A&R windDREGS::BLICKSTEINMariah Carey's FianceWed Jun 03 1992 14:2415
    Just re-read .590
    
    > Unfortunately, their roster is full right now and he would want to
    > dedicate alot of time to a project such as ours. Meanwhile he will keep
    > us in consideration, and pass along the good word to other record
    > companies' A&R reps. He said we could very well be hearing from someone
    
    Wow a record company exec who is willing to pass a band he thinks is a
    hot prospect to a competitor.
    
    And to think that we acuse these A&R guys of being scum.
    
    Don't you all feel ashamed?
    
    	db
466.562VCSESU::COOKI am a VikingWed Jun 03 1992 14:396
    
    Not to me. I've met him in person, and he's not the typical A&R rep.
    In fact, he told me I could use him as a reference. From what I
    gathered, Critique records doesn't do Heavy Metal bands.
    
    /prc
466.563NEMAIL::MERCIEROut where the Wild Things AreWed Jun 03 1992 19:387
    How did you find out about that Music seminar thing you went to? Do
    you know if anymore are planned??
    
    Whens the MP/ConTaGiouS show gonna happen?
    
    Bob
    
466.564NYCOLTRIX::ZAPPIAterminal bluesWed Jun 03 1992 19:5361
	Here's one Bob...I know most of you won't give a hoot or like any
	of these but...

		          <<< HYDRA::RADIO_RADIO.NOTE >>>
                             -< Eat Yer Earplugz >-
================================================================================
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    Scheduled for June 17-21 in NYC:
  
  22 - Pisterpirkko               27 Various
  3D's                            A House
  Alice Donut                     Angelique
  Anna Christenson                Arcwelder
  Band of Susans                  Big Chief
  Blue Ice Band                   Boghandle
  Bomb                            Bratmobile
  Burn                            Cake Kitchen
  Chi Al                          Chunk
  Clubland                        Cottage Industry
  Cud                             Dentists
  Drop 19's                       Drunken Boat
  Elmer Food Beat                 Fertile Crescent
  Fish Hospital                   Geoffrey Oreyema
  Gnome   
  God's Favourite Band            Green Magnet School
  Hammerbox                       Hemi
  HP Zinker                       Hypnolovewheel
  Intelligent Hoodlum             Into Another
  Jah Wobble                      Joe Henry
  King Maker                      Leningrad Cowboys
  Life, Sex & Death               Love Child
  Magnetic Fields                 Mahlathini & the Mahotella Queens
  Malavoi                         Manu Dibango
  May May                         Mercury Rev
  Miracle Legion                  Mother May I
  My Sister's Machine             No Safety
  Oren Bloedow                    Overwheming Colorfast
  Pavement                        Pierce Turner
  Pizzicato Five                  Pop Will Eat Itself
  Porn Orchard                    Poverty Stinks
  Railroad Jerk                   Rise Robots Rise
  Sara Craig                      Screaming Trees
  Seam                            Sebodoh
  Seven Year Bitch		  Shonen Knife
  Six Finger Satellite		  Small Factory
  Snatches Of Pink		  Superball 63
  Superchunk			  Supersuckers
  Tangerine Dream		  The Leatherwoods
  The Mavericks			  The Disposable Heroes Of Hihoprisy
  The 4 of Us			  Therapy 
  Think Tree			  Thud
  Toiling Midgets		  Treepeople
  Ultramarine			  Venus Peter
  Walt Mink			  Ween
  Wreck				  Zap Mama
 
    
466.565VCSESU::COOKI am a VikingWed Jun 03 1992 20:364
    
    re: ..597
    
    Currently under negotiations. 8-)
466.566DPDMAI::THRELFALLWanna start a rumble?Wed Jun 03 1992 20:554
    
    
    
    		600 Repliez!
466.567VCSESU::COOKI am a VikingWed Jun 03 1992 21:102
    
    Heard the show advertised on WCGY today. Great feeling.
466.568You best keep bugging them if you like it...ADROID::fosterStrapped with desire...Thu Jun 04 1992 14:2718
I'm one of the people that told Bob this; once someone plays 'CGY night, kiss
your airplay goodbye. I'm interested to see what happens after you folks have
played 'CGY night (curious, that's all).

Granted, our release was late 1990. A friend of ours called and told us that
'CGY had been playing the "Go Betweens" tune from time-to-time. We couldn't
have been getting requests, we had not told *anyone* to call and request it
(esp. since we didn't know it was even happening). Our guitarist called Harvey
just to say "Thanks for playing the tune", and then ended getting a gig a 
couple of months down the road.  The tune got played 6 out of 8 Sunday's 
before the gig, after the gig nothing for a couple of weeks.

Put some friends up to calling, still no airplay. Bummed?! Naw, it's amasing
it got that much air in the first place being that old. Expected to loose it
anyway, with all the new stuff being sent (that's why we're studio bound!).
Was fun while it lasted...

Droid
466.569VCSESU::COOKI am a VikingThu Jun 04 1992 14:353
    
    I'll keep after them. We have other stations playing our material too,
    or will be, so I'm not worried.
466.570KIRKTN::IGOLDIESo be it....!Thu Jun 04 1992 19:585
    Pete,
        I was listening to your demo today and have you ever thought about
    adding another guitarist??
    
                                                 Staynz
466.571CAVLRY::BUCKCoasters -- Live to ride, Ride to live!Thu Jun 04 1992 19:591
    Adding or replacing?
466.572VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersThu Jun 04 1992 20:065
    
    I think he means adding one. I'd like to, we've talked about it
    but I don't think Steve is up on it. We haven't really talked alot 
    about it lately.
    
466.573it"s a sound conflictCAVLRY::BUCKCoasters -- Live to ride, Ride to live!Thu Jun 04 1992 20:136
    The main thing that bugs me about Mp is the guitar player.  Well,
    I am one, so naturally I'm going to be a little biased there...
    John is a good player, I just don't think he fits well with Steve
    and Kieth's SOUND.  I think a real thrashy rockin player would work
    better in the MP ensemble, but that is just my 0.02 on the issue.
    
466.574No to say that you aren't good now.MPGS::HOWESNow I'm safe in the eye of the tornadoThu Jun 04 1992 20:1911


	He is better live than he is on tape, on the tape the
	guitarist doesn't sound very good....

	If you guys ever got the guy from Genocide you would be
	unbelieveable...


							-Seth
466.575VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersThu Jun 04 1992 20:292
    
    FWIW, I agree with Buck and Seth, but don't tell anyone. 8-)
466.576KIRKTN::IGOLDIESo be it....!Thu Jun 04 1992 20:339
    I meant add one for a bigger sound.The guy who pays ith you(oo er)is
    good but the adding of another guitarist would be a more in your face
    sound.I'm not very keen on the song Armageddon(sp)just when I'm on a 
    moaning mood.Its a big too 'Maiden to be original and the lyrics are
    quite chessey(if you know what I mean)the rest of the songs especially
    "uncongressional mosh" are spot on!
    
    
                                                Staynz
466.577HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSWHO.....MADE.....YOU!!!Thu Jun 04 1992 20:377
    I always thought they should add another guitarist that could sing with
    a different voice type than Keith.  Especially for the ballads.  Keiths
    good for the really thrashing songs, but a contrasting voice for
    backups on those songs would be nice too.  Steve sounds too much like
    Keith to make a difference.
    
    Chris D.
466.578CAVLRY::BUCKCoasters -- Live to ride, Ride to live!Thu Jun 04 1992 20:385
    Seth,
    
    You seem to have misconstrued me...I didn't say he was a bad PLAYER,
    moreso, I don't think his sound/style gels well with Steve's musical
    vision.  A guitar player in the WASP vein, I think, would work well.
466.579MPGS::HOWESNow I'm safe in the eye of the tornadoThu Jun 04 1992 20:4214


    Not really Buck...  I wasn't really talking to you directly, I
    was just kind of making my own observation...  If anything my
    statement was directed more at Staynz, because he hasn't seen
    them live....


    I was just giving my opinion, not really going against or for
    you Buck... FWIW


							-Seth
466.580PAKORA::IGOLDIESo be it....!Thu Jun 04 1992 21:116
    I wasn't saying he was a bad player,I have no right to give anyone
    abuse(ok,I occasionally do but what the hell!)as my playing is crap.The
    sound I was refering to was an overall sound for the band.
    
    
                                                 Staynz
466.581TONE-AGE!!!!!!COMET::FRISBYAReach for the SkyThu Jun 04 1992 21:387
    I think a second guitar player makes any band a bit more interesting.
     As long as they don't step on each other...
      FWIW-I think the MP guitar player is o.k. but needs to change his
    TONE to a BIG,FULL sound.  
    
                 Frizkid
    
466.582VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersThu Jun 04 1992 22:205
    
    Yep, I'm John about it constantly. We had alot of trouble finding a
    guitarist originally and we settled with him. Besides, he's rich. 8-)
    
    Thanks for the comments guys!
466.583KURMA::IGOLDIESo be it....!Thu Jun 04 1992 22:484
    to hell with talent as long as the dude is rich  8)
    
    
                                                      Staynz
466.584;^)GOES11::G_HOUSEGerm Killer, Plaque SlayerThu Jun 04 1992 22:544
>    Yep, I'm John about it constantly.
    
    Another fine example of WENDYOlete!  This is truly the wonder product
    of Notes!
466.585VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersFri Jun 05 1992 02:512
    
    Ooops!
466.586MPGS::HOWESNow I'm safe in the eye of the tornadoFri Jun 05 1992 03:236


What time do you guys go on Friday???


466.587VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersFri Jun 05 1992 03:433
    
    
    Approximately 8:45-9:00.
466.588VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersFri Jun 05 1992 13:226
    
    Discount tickets are still available for the Mr. Tipps show.
    If you haven't gotten them yet, send me mail and I'll get them
    to you. This is going to be a VERY important show for us.
    
    Keep tuned to WCGY in the afternoons next week for more details.
466.589Bring the roof down tonite Pete !SLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownFri Jun 05 1992 14:1811
    Pete,
    
    	Has EMLowes open its doors yet ? I read that 5 managers and employees 
    locked themself inside because they were not paid yet for the B.B. King 
    show last week. its a great place to see a show and suppose it is a better
    place to have a gig at (better as in beats the hell outta playing is
    some small smokey bar)....I hope this has been settled, those 5 people
    have some great ideas on making the club work for local and national
    act to play...
    
    	Chris
466.590VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersFri Jun 05 1992 14:2511
    
    	Not sure about that. They don't say anything on the phone when
    	I've called, and I haven't asked, it probably being a sensitive
    	subject.
    
    	I believe this is why they are having the benefit, to raise money
    	to open the place for good.
    
    	We were going to do a remix of "God Save the Queen" by the Sex
    	Pistols retitled "Save EM Loews" but it was too short of notice
    	to do it. Would've been cool!
466.591Save the "fill in the blank"SLOHAN::FIELDSIts sad,so sad 'cus the Circus Left TownFri Jun 05 1992 14:507
    Good luck Pete, Save EM Lowes Worcester doesn't need another parking
    lot ! Ive seen a lot of great band over the years there like Wendy O
    Williams with tape on her Nipples and blowing a TV up on stage to B52
    the Stray Cat and John Butcher and many more that I can't seem to
    remember (must have lost a few braincells in that place, Im sure)
    
    Chris
466.592VCSESU::COOKMystic PowersFri Jun 05 1992 15:133
    
    Yep, I've seen some cool bands there too. Alice Cooper, Molly Hatchet,
    Saxon, Triumph, Joe Perry Project, etc...
466.593Mystic Powers updateVCSESU::COOKMystic PowersMon Jun 08 1992 03:1715
    
    The show at EM Loews went very very well.
    
    The place is phenomenal, the sound was excellent, we got lots of
    support, and we were really happy with our performance. The manager
    loved us! I'm looking very forward to more shows there in the future.
    
    It was a big night for us on WCGY tonight. The show at Mr. Tipps
    this Thursday was announced a slew of times and they played the
    title track from the EP again.
    
    We also have a killer backdrop now. It came out excellent, you have to
    see it to beleive it!
    
    
466.594GOOEY::MCBRIDEHamburgers for Wotan, Inc.Mon Jun 08 1992 16:446
Congrats on the awesome gig at EM Loews.

I'm gonna try to make it to Mr Tipps this Thurs.  How much are Tix?

-- 
Kevin
466.595VCSESU::COOKgotta wear shades...Tue Jun 09 1992 20:142
    
    We have a DAT going to WBCN this month. Stay tuned for more details.
466.596VCSESU::COOKgotta wear shades...Thu Jun 11 1992 18:4514
    	[reposted]
    
    Directions to Mr. Tipps:
    
    Take exit 28 off of route 3. Take a right at the end of the ramp.
    Mr. Tipps is on the right 1/3 of a mile up the road.
    
    I will leave a bunch of discount tickets under the windshield
    wiper of my car, it's a white 1991 Plymouth Acclaim.
    
    That way you guys can save a buck if you haven't gotten tix already
    in the mail.
    
    -peter
466.597Trying to cash in on /k's joke...BOVES::FENNELLElvis et mort&quot;Thu Jun 11 1992 20:543
If I get to the parking lot will someone help me find my way to Mr Tipps.

Tim
466.598NEMAIL::MERCIEROut where the Wild Things AreFri Jun 12 1992 13:464
    Tell us about the show at Mr Tipps....How'd it go? Large Crowd?
    
    Bob
    
466.599CAVLRY::BUCKWeirdorama, PsychodomeFri Jun 12 1992 13:471
    Did people find the free tickets?
466.600The important part is we got ALOT of exposure!VCSESU::COOKgotta wear shades...Fri Jun 12 1992 13:576
    
    re: .632
    
    It went well. The crowd was very non-metal, but they liked us.
    
    Kevin and Jim were there, other than that....
466.601VCSESU::COOKgotta wear shades...Fri Jun 12 1992 14:224
    
    re: .633
    
    Sure, I left some at the front door. 
466.602DTIF::MCBRIDEHamburgers for Wotan, Inc.Fri Jun 12 1992 16:0220
The first band up, whose name I can't remember, was a rather preppy looking
quartet who played alternative pop.  They were good, but not quite my cup
of poison.  A lot of people left before they finished their set.

Most of the people who were left stayed through the Mystic Powers set.
You should have heard the roars of laughter at the bar when you guys
did "Speak English or Die"  People got into that one as well as the
congressional mosh thing.  I thought the manager of Mr. Tipps was gonna
bust a gut.  I think he liked it.

I liked the show.  You guys are a bit too heavy for my tastes, but I can
appreciate what you're doing.  I got burned out during my punk days and just
can't get into thrash that much anymore.  I get more into the mellower 
metal these days like Queensryche, Aerosmith, etc.

One thing is for sure, nobody will ever accuse you guys of being poseurs.

-- 
Kevin
466.603VCSESU::COOKMystic Powers has left the buildingFri Jun 12 1992 16:105
    
    Thanks, Kevin! I'm glad you could make it!
    
    I was trying not to laugh during the S.O.D. tune. I couldn't
    believe we did that there! 8-)
466.604NEMAIL::MERCIEROut where the Wild Things AreMon Jun 15 1992 16:303
    Where's my tape?
    
    Bob
466.605VCSESU::COOKMystic Powers has left the buildingMon Jun 15 1992 16:342
    
    I have one going to Combat, and one to you this Wednesday.
466.606NEMAIL::MERCIEROut where the Wild Things AreMon Jun 15 1992 16:481
    Thanks...Ill keep an eye out for it.
466.607VCSESU::COOKMystic Powers has left the buildingMon Jun 15 1992 17:235
    
    	I'm very proud to announce that Mystic Powers will headline  
    	the Escape Club in  Salisbury Beach, MA. on  Saturday night 
    	July 25, 1992. This will be an ALL ages show.  Advanced tix
    	available. Please send VAXmail!
466.608KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Mon Jun 15 1992 18:313
Where's my tape...

:)
466.609VCSESU::COOKMystic Powers has left the buildingTue Jun 16 1992 20:0213
    
    Fwiw, here's a list of covers we do (not always at shows though);
    
    Iron Maiden - Wrathchild
    		  Killers
    		  Hallowed be thy Name
    		  
    Stormtroopers of Death - United Forces
    			   - Milano Mosh
    			   - Speak English or Die
    
    Nuclear Assault - Critical Mass
    		
466.610It would go along with the same attitude as SEOD.COMET::FRISBYAShe's the bag ladyTue Jun 16 1992 21:344
    Why don't ya do A.I.D.S.?
    
                 Friz
    
466.611That song is funny...VCSESU::COOKMystic Powers has left the buildingTue Jun 16 1992 21:552
    
    By M.O.D.? What a riot!
466.612Nothing funny about AIDS imvho, thankyouverymuch!CAVLRY::BUCKLove is a friend when you need oneTue Jun 16 1992 22:401
    Whta's it stand for??
466.613VCSESU::COOKMystic Powers has left the buildingWed Jun 17 1992 04:102
    
    I don't know, and I don't want to, in this topic.
466.614VCSESU::COOKTAMA, the choice of champions!Wed Jun 17 1992 16:504
    
    We're going to having another party soon but we need a place to hold
    it. We want to have it BEFORE July 25. Anyone have any ideas?
    
466.615Finally...PROXY::MCCARRONWelcome to my humble commode.Wed Jun 17 1992 22:0020
    
    
    	
    	Not a song by song review but...
    
    	Overall... good job Pete & MP!  
    
    	Nice packaging.  The cover drawing could be a bit more professional 
    though.
    
    	As I mentioned to you at Applebees, I'd like to hear the
    "chunka-chunka" guitar sound (Metallica, Slayer, et al).  It'd give 
    more of a thrash feel to the tunes.  Keep trying to get the guitarist
    to try it.  8^)
    
    	Fave tunes... "Armageddon" & "Uncongressional Mosh".
    
    
    Paul
                                        
466.616VCSESU::COOKPaiste, the choice of champions!Thu Jun 18 1992 18:087
    
    John has gotten a heavier sound than he had on the tape, thanks
    to a little coercing. I asked him last night if his processor 
    could sample, but it can't. I wanted him to sample Scott Ian's 
    sound. I think he'd do it. It would sound better on songs like
    Uncongressional Mosh, but I'd like to keep the "Maidenesque"
    sound for songs like Armageddon.
466.617db, you sound JUST like Steve Morse!!!DREGS::BLICKSTEINMariah Carey's FianceThu Jun 18 1992 19:576
    Unfortunately, there are no guitar processors that do the kind of thing
    you're talking about Pete - i.e. "sample" someone's tone, and give
    your guitar that tone.
    
    I think it will be many years before you see anything like that
    but obviously that would be an ultimately cool thing to have.
466.618VCSESU::COOKPaiste, the choice of champions!Thu Jun 18 1992 19:592
    
    Rats! I knew it was too good to be true! 8-)
466.619He totally into it though...COMET::FRISBYALittle DoveThu Jun 18 1992 21:195
    That's not so true...The guitarist in my band has a 20 space rack full 
    of stuff and he can sound like anybody or anything he wants.
    
          Friz
    
466.620No rig can sound exactly like anything elseGOES11::G_HOUSEA waste of skinThu Jun 18 1992 21:2716
>    That's not so true...The guitarist in my band has a 20 space rack full 
>    of stuff and he can sound like anybody or anything he wants.
    
    But that's through *emulation*, not *sampling* (which is a technology
    all it's own).  Kyle doesn't play any samples through his rig-of-doom,
    he can just make a lot of different sounds.
    
    And, btw, there's one sound he can't make with all that junk...the
    sound of a good Marshall.  I happen to know he's not into that sound
    anyway, but I've heard a *lot* of guitar equipment (including
    everything in his rig) and the only thing that sounds *exactly* like a
    Marshall is a Marshall.
    
    He can probably get pretty close, but not exactly.
    
    gh
466.621Even old men can learn something new.COMET::FRISBYALittle DoveThu Jun 18 1992 21:314
    Come over to practice sometime....He'll prove ya wrong.
    
             Friz
    
466.623Maybe your ears can't hear a difference, but mine canGOES11::G_HOUSEA waste of skinThu Jun 18 1992 23:005
    No he won't, because *nothing* sounds exactly like a Marshall.
    
    I'm sorry, but I know this to be absolutely true.
    
    gh
466.624NEWOA::DALLISONTime out, this is the real worldFri Jun 19 1992 08:571
    ditto
466.625VCSESU::COOKPaiste, the choice of champions!Fri Jun 19 1992 12:284
    
    Next week our band photos are being shot. I've decided to have them
    done at Higgins Armory in Worcester. It's a museum of medival armor.
    Need I say more? 8-)
466.626What Be SamplingDREGS::BLICKSTEINMariah Carey's FianceFri Jun 19 1992 14:1066
    To expand on what Greg said.
    
    What Peter had in mind:
    
    	You play something into the unit, it analyzes it, and then turns
    	itself into an emulator of that sound.
    
    	I.E. you sample Steve Morse and this unit analyzes his sound
    	and becomes a Steve Morse sound emulator.
    
    What Friz's guitarist Kyle does:
    
    	He just copies the sound by having equipment that produces the same
    	sound, but Kyle has to analyze the sound himself and set the
    `	equipment up to do it.
    
    	I.E. you buy all the same (or similar) equipment Steve Morse uses.
    
    Method #1 has the problem that the technology is not even close to
    being in existance yet.
    
    Method #2 assumes the (common) fallacy that a person sound only from
    his equipment.
     
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    FYI, "sampling" as far as today's technology is concerned is really
    just  recording an playback of sound. 
    
    Simply "sampling" a guitar wouldn't help much unless you play each
    note the same way EVERY time.
    
    Samplers are getting more and more sophisticated at humanizing samples:
    they can:
    
    	o Vary the loudness of playback according to how "hard" you hit
    	  the note
    
    	o They can switch/fade between samples according to how "hard" you
    	  hit the note (i.e. they can play a sample of a loud hit for a
          hard hit, and a sample of a soft hit for a soft hit)
    
    	o THey can vary the playback rate, and thus the pitch to follow
    	  string bends, whammy bars, vibrato, etc.
    
    But there's a zillion other things every guitarist does frequently that
    a sampler can't detect/simulate/etc, or at least all at once: various
    degress of string muting, harmonics, taps, hammer-ons and hammer-offs,
    picked versus plucked, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
    
    Of course there's almost nothing you can do with those things we refer
    fondly to as chords (the sound an amp produces when you play a chord is
    NOT the same sound you'd getting by recording each string separately
    and playing them back simultaneously)
    
    I.E. to get the same sound for EVERY chord you'd have to sample EVERY
    chord AND... the unit would have to KNOW what chord you're playing and
    play back the sample.   Think of the amount of computer memory that
    would be involved here.
    
    By the way, if you wonder what a chord would sound like if each note
    was recorded separately, listen to Brian May's "God Save The Queen"
    (on "Night at the Opera").  Brian May does that on a lot of albums
    actually.
    
    	db
466.627METALX::SWANSONnothing personalFri Jun 19 1992 14:4413
 >   (the sound an amp produces when you play a chord is
 >   NOT the same sound you'd getting by recording each string separately
 >   and playing them back simultaneously)
    
    That's interesting.... I always had this idea of inventing a pickup
    that has a seperate coil for each pole-piece so each of the 6 strings
    could have their sound changed independently of the others, and then be
    combined actively inside the guitar.  Does something like that exist
    already?  How did Brian May do it?
    
    Ken
    
    
466.628DREGS::BLICKSTEINMariah Carey's FianceFri Jun 19 1992 14:5328
    re:
    
    Yes, such pickups exist.  Although it's really more accurate to say
    such "guitars" exist because obviously you need special plugs and
    such.
    
    It's generally referred to as a "hex" pickup.  Steve Morse even has
    a classical guitar with a hex pickup.
    
    I'm not absolutely sure how Brian May did it, but it seems almost
    certain that he did it with multi-tracking, recording one part
    at a time.
    
    Actually there was this old guitar synth called the Arp Avatar that
    I've tried and it had a "hex fuzz" patch which basically sounded like
    that Brian May stuff.
    
    It was VERY cool.  Unlike most distorted guitars, you could play chords
    other than power fifths (like 7ths and 9ths) without it becoming muddy.
    
    BTW, I must add that my latest synth has a KILLER distorted guitar
    patch on it.  The synth has a guitar tone that I would KILL to have
    for my guitar!
    
    Now, of course, due to various limitations, it's hard to imagine doing
    a whole song with it where you couldn't tell it wasn't a real guitar
    but I'm planning to use it live as a novelty.    We've done "Smoke On
    The Water" in rehearsals and it was a lot of fun.
466.629KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Fri Jun 19 1992 15:1416
    Friz,
    
    Just so ya know, the Marshall vs. Rack debat is older than you are.
    :)
    
    We've discussed this *to death* in the GUITAR conference...Greg, Tony 
    and Mike are absolutely right - Only a Marshall does a Marshall make...
    
    I'll also point out Friz, that what you hear on CD's of your favorite
    bands may be Marshalls, but they are so processed by the time the sound
    gets to your ears, that you'd never know it.   These "On CD" sounds are
    what Kyle and I can emulate almost to a "T".  Racks RULE!
    :)
    
    jc
      
466.630Kramer had a single pickup/note guitarGOES11::G_HOUSEWhereWereYouInMyDarkestHourFri Jun 19 1992 18:3013
    re: guitar with seperate controls for each string
    
    Kramer made a guitar like that awhile back.  Seemed like a major
    novelty item, it put out a stereo signal, and had a PAN pot for each
    string.  Pretty weird, but I bet you could get some cool effects with
    it.  Like setting the strings so they panned evenly as you went across
    the fretboard, so you'd get a left to right sweep when you did an
    arpeggio or scale run across the strings.
    
    I forget what it was called, it was named after the guy that invented
    it.
    
    Greg
466.631Mystic guitarsDREGS::BLICKSTEINMariah Carey's FianceFri Jun 19 1992 18:384
    Actually, I think Kramer made an Eddie Van Halen model with hex
    pickups so that may be what you were thinking of.
    
    	db
466.632VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Fri Jun 19 1992 18:382
    
    I am the anti-christ. Well, okay, maybe Steve is. 8-)
466.633GOOEY::MCBRIDEHamburgers for Wotan, Inc.Fri Jun 19 1992 18:4012
Yamaha made an acoustic with that feature too.  A friend of mine has one.
It does make for some very interesting sounds when we record stereo out
to the Fostex 8 track and post-mix later with the Roland GP-16.

I also saw a guy recently with an Ibanez MIDI guitar that was made a few
years back (don't know if it still is.)  He could get some really weird
stuff out of that gear with some of the, ahem, unconventional patches he
had loaded into the processor.

-- 
Kevin
466.634CAVLRY::BUCKWe are the Champions!Fri Jun 19 1992 18:463
    I may be off base here, but fdidn't Nancy Wilson of Heart have
    something to do with the design of the HEX acoustic pickup??
    I seem to remember she was one of the first people to have one.
466.635VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Mon Jun 22 1992 19:383
    
    John is buying a new processor today. I'm not sure what kind, but
    it's the latest and greatest. I'll report more tommorrow.
466.636no processingCAVLRY::BUCKOoh la laMon Jun 22 1992 19:4312
    Pete,
    
    Have John log in and read Tony Dallison's most recent note in GUITAR
    on 'getting a sound'.
    
    Read Mine and GH's reply ... John doesn't need a PROCESSOR, he needs to
    just use that damn Marshall stack he has!!  i mean, if he's into these
    processor things, why doesn't he just feed it right into the PA? Would
    make more sense imho (the Marshall is certainly not doing what it is
    supposed to).
    
    The processor is the source of his problem imo.
466.637..couldv'e resisted..didnt'...as usual...;')...AD::FLATTERYMon Jun 22 1992 19:454
    re: -2..the processor.........pete..tell john that cuisinart makes a
    nice one...the blades are easy to clean and i think they're on sale
    at lechmere this week!..............;')............../k
    
466.638VCSESU::COOKBush in '92!Mon Jun 22 1992 19:494
    
    Well, I know what ya mean Buck, but we want the best of both worlds.
    We want the Maidenesque sound for some songs, but the Scott Ian
    crunch on others. Know what I mean?
466.639CAVLRY::BUCKOoh la laMon Jun 22 1992 19:587
    >Well, I know what ya mean Buck, but we want the best of both worlds.
    >We want the Maidenesque sound for some songs, but the Scott Ian
    >crunch on others. Know what I mean?
    
    IMO, I'd hire a sound engineer who knew what he was doing, so he could
    just add a touch of chorus/delay on the ole guitar for those songs you
    wanted a bit "more textured".
466.640KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Mon Jun 22 1992 21:339
    Why rely on a sound engineer ??  How many are there in this country
    that know what they're doing and that a band like Pete's (or mine, or
    Friz...) can afford ??
    
    Processing your own sound RULES - Nuff said.  How many bands are
    touring the country right now who don't have a processor on their
    Marshalls ?  None.
    
    jc
466.641CAVLRY::BUCKOoh la laMon Jun 22 1992 23:269
    >Processing your own sound RULES - Nuff said.  How many bands are
    >touring the country right now who don't have a processor on their
    >Marshalls ?  None.
    
    IN their rigs?!?  a few.  The KIX dudes for two.
    
    Coop, this guy was using a GP-8 for distortion and fx ... the Marshall
    was just used for power ... that is a waste of amp resources imvho,
    and, what SS device can really match the gain and warmth of tubes?!?
466.642Using something proven over and overGOES11::G_HOUSEWhereWereYouInMyDarkestHourMon Jun 22 1992 23:5032
>    Well, I know what ya mean Buck, but we want the best of both worlds.
>    We want the Maidenesque sound for some songs, but the Scott Ian
>    crunch on others. Know what I mean?
    
    Simple matter of twisting the midrange control before the song and
    kicking in some light effects via something in the efx loop as needed. 
    You don't need a "one unit does everything", or a rack the size of a
    refrigerator to get a killer tone.
    
>    Why rely on a sound engineer ??  How many are there in this country
>    that know what they're doing and that a band like Pete's (or mine, or
>    Friz...) can afford ??
 
    That's a good point, but it's better to keep the same sound engineer,
    even if he's not sticking effects on your guitar sounds.  It's about
    sounding similar consistantly.  I don't really like the idea of someone
    else changing my sound "for me", but using the same good engineer all
    the time will help your overall band sound.
    
>    How many bands are
>    touring the country right now who don't have a processor on their
>    Marshalls ?  None.
    
    There are a GREAT many touring guitarists who use a Marshall for their
    basic sound.  They might add a little chorus or something, but I'd have
    to say that many many players use a basic Marshall.
    
    I don't know about "right now", but that's what Randy Rhodes used. 
    Marshall with like 2 stomps.  Eddie Van Halen in his early days, same
    thing.  Everyone loved their sounds!
    
    gh
466.643<FX=">"FREEBE::REAUMEPerfectly CoNNected!Tue Jun 23 1992 00:1611
    
    
       To each his own.. We've pounded this topic to DEATH over in 
    guitar notes! Even though I'm a proud member of the MRP club
    (Midi Rack Puke - Coop is prez!), I've seen how happy and good sounding
    Buck E. Lee can be plugged straight into an amp (my M1 for one).
       It does take a little more work to make the processor approach work
    for you. I'm by far the happiest now that I've EVER been with my guitar 
    sound (quite a few $ and countless hours of experimenting). 
    
    							-B()()M-
466.644CAVLRY::BUCKOoh la laTue Jun 23 1992 03:298
    >I've seen how happy and good sounding
    >Buck E. Lee can be plugged straight into an amp (my M1 for one).
    
    Or the REXX rippin the air from a 4x12!
    
    Look at the Black Crowes dudes...they're Marshall/no_fx dudes.
    What about SRV?  What about Buddy Guy?  George Lynch in early
    Dokken days used a stright sound.  Same with early Vito Brata.
466.645KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Tue Jun 23 1992 16:0018
True enough - if a "to each his own" thing... And it has been beaten to
death...

But Anything you hear lately is effected.  Very few people use a cord 
and a marshall...Especially in Studios.  Angus maybe... :)

But I would say that a GP8 thru a MArshall *is* a waste of a good Marshall.
The GP8 and a MOSvalve might be okay, but I'd probably stick with a Marshall
if I had to use a Roland...  No offense to Roland owners, natch.

Lynch has never had what I consider a straight-in guitar sound.  He's always
sounded processed to me - Tooth and Nail sounded like a GK or an Mp1, Under 
Lock and Key too.  I guess he like Hughes and Kettner now.... :)

Don't the doods in KIX use Strats ??
:)

jc (With one of those dormatory sized fridges :)
466.646CAVLRY::BUCKShotgun MessiahTue Jun 23 1992 16:1219
>But Anything you hear lately is effected.  Very few people use a cord 
>and a marshall...Especially in Studios.  Angus maybe... :)

    What they do is record the basic tracks dry (cord into Marshall), 
    and add whatever they want after the fact.  NO ONE records fx to
    tracks!!

>Lynch has never had what I consider a straight-in guitar sound.  He's always
>sounded processed to me - Tooth and Nail sounded like a GK or an Mp1, Under 
>Lock and Key too.  I guess he like Hughes and Kettner now.... :)

    Well, the fact in Lynch (was, until Lynch Mob) a true n true Marshall
    Man...plugged straight in.  For concerts, the sound engineer used to
    put a touch of delay on his guitar, but that was it.  He used a Rockman
    for his clean stuff.
    
>Don't the doods in KIX use Strats ??
    
    Nope, they use old Gibson guitars.
466.647KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Tue Jun 23 1992 16:299
Agreed - you print the guitar tracks dry...Then process the hell out of it.
Then when you go our live, either your sound engineer adds the effects, or
you do...  But someone does...  Just to recreate your studio sound.
I'd just as soon control my own processing - I've had a lot more practice
doing that than most sound engineers...I'm gettin' good at it  :).

Is it LA Guns then that use strats ?? 

jc
466.648DREGS::BLICKSTEINMariah Carey's FianceTue Jun 23 1992 17:0429
    It's hard for me to imagine a truly straight guitar in the recording
    process.
    
    The process of recording itself adds all kinds of "effects" such as
    compression, EQ, distortion, etc.
    
    However, I classify those things that little boxes and MRPs do into
    two categories: "effects" and "processors".
    
    An "effect" changes the tone/sound.  A processor is more to control
    what the ear hears:
    
    	Effects: Chorus, delay, Flange, Reverb, distortion,
    
    	Processors: EQ, Compressors, Aural exciters, limiters, etc.
    
    I switch between using a guitar plugged directly into a Boogie, and
    and series of effects devices (GP-16, MV II, ADM-1024, GC2020B) going
    into a JC-120 (clean amp).
    
    Thusly, I've concluded there are sorta two catagories of guitar sound:
    processed and straight.
    
    It is EXTREMELY hard (in my experience) to capture a straight sound
    on tape.  I've never managed to do it completely to my liking, and
    frankly, I've heard few albums with it either (one example that springs
    to mind however is definitely Tommy Bolin on Billy Cobham's "Spectrum"
    album - there are points where it really sounds like a Marshall in the
    room.)
466.649KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Tue Jun 23 1992 17:394
Yeah - there is a difference between using an effect as a "Feature" and 
using it to fix an already bad sound...

jc
466.650GOES11::G_HOUSEWhereWereYouInMyDarkestHourTue Jun 23 1992 23:2337
>Lynch has never had what I consider a straight-in guitar sound.  He's always
>sounded processed to me - Tooth and Nail sounded like a GK or an Mp1, Under 
>Lock and Key too.  I guess he like Hughes and Kettner now.... :)

    According to his interviews, he recorded all the distorted guitar parts
    on the early Dokken albums with an old Marshall (with purple tolex)
    owned by someone famous who he'd rent it from.  He said it was the best
    Marshall he'd ever heard and he tried to steal it several times, but
    never got it.  
    
    Part of the sound on those early Dokken albums is the many overdubbed
    tracks he did.  There's layers on layers on layers.  Of course the
    whole thing is mega-compressed, but that can be done in several ways in
    the recording process.
    
    When I saw him playing at the Monsters Of Rock right before Dokken
    broke up, he had a couple of visible Marshall's on stage with him. 
    Don't know where his signal was going before or after them, but they
    were turned on and the cabs were miked.
    
    And no...LA Guns don't use Strats either.  Mick Cripps usually uses a
    Les Paul, and Tracii is in the "guitar/endorsement of the week" club. 
    He's been known to use Kramers, Gibsons, Heartfields, Ibanezs,
    Washburns, who knows what else.  They all have humbucking pickups in
    the bridge position...
    
    You're probably talking about some comment he was quoted as saying from
    that Fender propaganda magazine.  He said something like "The Strat
    is the most flexable guitar ever made, I love 'em" or something like
    that.  To my knowledge he never used 'em (or never used 'em much).
    
    ...hmmm...ok, I lied (sorta).  He was FILMED playing along with the
    song in the video for "The Ballad Of Jayne" with a sunburst Strat.  Who
    knows if that's what he recorded it with or not.  Videos are total
    fantasy...
    
    gh
466.651VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Wed Jun 24 1992 17:442
    
    Hey doods, what's a "pitch transposer" and "phase shifter".
466.652CAVLRY::BUCKShotgun MessiahWed Jun 24 1992 17:5210
    A phase shifter is a devide which splits an audio signal in two, and
    runs one side through a time delay unit, causing varying amount of
    phase cancelation with the original signal.  Usually, the rate of
    phase and depth can be adjusted on one of these units.  It has a 
    pseudo-60's sound, and it similar to, but not exactly like, Flaging.
    
    A pitch transposer is just that...takes an audio signal and modifes
    the pitch, usually up to one octave above, and down to one octave
    below.  This can usually be mixed in varying amounts with a dry signal
    to create a "two part" or "harmony" effect.
466.653Don't even ASK what a "Digital Delay" is ;-)DREGS::BLICKSTEINMariah Carey's FianceWed Jun 24 1992 19:179
    And I thought a "pitch transposeur" is one of those singers with all
    the right hair, and all the right stage moves, but who never seems to
    be able to sing on key.
    
    I also thought a "phase shifter" is one of those guitars who can't
    decide between using a Les Paul and a Marshall or using a Strat and
    a Fender Twin.
    
    	db
466.655VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Thu Jun 25 1992 12:486
    
    Not sure, I wasn't paying attention. Possibly an ADA but I wouldn't
    stake Clinton's hairpeice on it. He's got a ways to go in getting 
    the right sounds out of it, but it's much better than what he had
    before.
    
466.656or buy him tix to the next Motorhead show...CAVLRY::BUCKShotgun MessiahThu Jun 25 1992 12:596
    My advice:
    
    Hide all his fx on him, and weld the controls on that Marshall Stack
    all to 10!  If that ain't the right sound...
    
    8^)
466.657VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Thu Jun 25 1992 14:433
    
    Tix are now available for the Escape Club show, Saturday, July 25th.
    Send VAXmail.
466.658VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Mon Jun 29 1992 15:002
    
    John's processor is an Alesis Quadraverb GT.
466.659HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSWHO.....MADE.....YOU!!!Mon Jun 29 1992 15:055
    
    Oh No!!  Not an Alesis Quadraverb GT!!!   er.... what's an Alesis
    Quadraverb GT?  :^) :^)
    
    Chris D.  
466.660CAVLRY::BUCKMon Jun 29 1992 15:075
    What's the GT stand for (Guitar??).  I had a quadraverb once...perdy 
    neat (it didn't do distortion at least), but it was far more fx than
    I wanted/needed!
    
    B.
466.661VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Mon Jun 29 1992 15:155
    
    I don't know, the GT probably just means it's the latest and greatest
    or something. He's still working with it, but the distortion in it
    is much better than what he had before.
    
466.662CAVLRY::BUCKMon Jun 29 1992 15:234
    It has dirstortion in it?!?  It's DEF. made for guitar then!!
    
    The Quadraverb I had was the normal studio one, and only did Stereo
    Reverb, Stereo Delay, Stereo Chorus, and had an EQ built in.
466.663Nice efx unit, but forget the distortionGOES11::G_HOUSEBlack Sheets Of RainMon Jun 29 1992 16:0612
    The QV GT is the new model with distortion designed for guitar players.
    
    Frankly, I just don't understand why John would use some cheezy
    distortion box when he's got an amp with the best sounding distortions
    I've ever heard.  I've probably said this before, but I have *never*
    heard any distortion unit that could even come close to sounding as
    good as a good tube amp.
    
    Kinda like buying a new Ferrari and then towing it around behind a
    junky old Impala or something....
    
    gh
466.664KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Mon Jun 29 1992 16:254
Yeah - the distortions in the QuadGT are pretty cheezy, but the verbs, delays,
and EQ are excellent.

jc (With a Quad - no GT though)
466.665VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Mon Jun 29 1992 16:293
    
    He's working through all that. It's gonna take him a while, there's
    so much to play with on that thang.
466.667VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Mon Jun 29 1992 16:343
    
    How do you keep the Marshall distortion and patch in the effects
    from the processor?
466.668Huh?GOES11::G_HOUSEBlack Sheets Of RainMon Jun 29 1992 17:0510
    Not sure exactly what you're asking, Pete...
    
    You'd normally stick the efx unit in the Marshall's efx loop and use it
    for stuff like delays, chorus, flanging, and maybe reverb (although I
    like the reverb on my Marshall).
    
    Unless you had a foot controller or effects unit that also did the
    channel switchin on the amp, you'd have to switch them seperately.
    
    gh
466.669VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Mon Jun 29 1992 17:162
    
    He has a foot controller for it.
466.670What has every guitarist in this note said??CAVLRY::BUCKMon Jun 29 1992 17:3028
    RE: Pete
    
    Greg had it right:
    
    >You'd normally stick the efx unit in the Marshall's efx loop and use it
    >for stuff like delays, chorus, flanging, and maybe reverb (although I
    >like the reverb on my Marshall).
    
    
    I'd plug it into the amp's fx loop also.  See Diagram:
    
    Guitar --> Amp input (goes through gain stage [distortion] and amp eq)
    
    --> SEND (fx loop out) --> Quad mono in (right side in) --> Quad mono out
    
    (right side out) --> RETURN (fx loop in) --> amp speaker out --> 4x12 cabs
    
    
    The foot controller will change fx on the unit.  John would also still
    have to use the Marshall foot switch to go from Channel A to B, if so
    desired.
    
    I'd do it like the above (using the Marshall amp distortion and sans
    the solid state distortion in the QV GT), and use the fx unit for 
    reverb, delays, and chorusing.
    
    
    Buck, with today's 0.02
466.671To clarify my viewsGOES11::G_HOUSEBlack Sheets Of RainMon Jun 29 1992 17:3512
    FWIW, I haven't personally heard the distortion in the Quadraverb GT,
    so my comment is generic with regard to that type unit.  However, I've
    heard enough negative things about it to have a pretty strong belief
    that it's distortion doesn't sound all that great.
    
    I do, however, own a Marshall JCM900 Dual Reverb amp, similar to John's
    (as I recall, his is the 100wt version, mine is a 50wt, but they're
    almost exactly the same sound).  The distortion sound of this amp is
    *excellent*!!!  I can't understand for the life of me why someone
    wouldn't want to use it!
              
    gh
466.672KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Mon Jun 29 1992 17:438
Perhaps he plays speedie-metal stuff (dunno, WHERE'S MY TAPE! :).

Slap the quad into the FX loop and bypass anything resembling distortion
in the Quad.  Better yet, buy TWO marshalls and an Mp1 and run the Mp1
into the FX return on the marshalls. :)

Friends don't let friends twist knobs.  :)
jc
466.673VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Mon Jun 29 1992 17:473
    
    More tapes coming. I had to send one to Combat, and one to Washington
    DC for 1992.
466.674Careful with that Axe effect Eugene ;-)DREGS::BLICKSTEINdbMon Jun 29 1992 17:4825
    Umm....
    
    Be warned, I think the effects loop typically comes after a preamp
    stage and a lot of these multi-effectors are NOT designed to be used in
    effects loops and even say so in the manual (both my GP-8 and GP-16 say
    that).
    
    Pete, the way he uses his Marshall distortion with this is just to rely
    on the Marshall rather than the Alesis for distortion.  I.E. don't use
    the Alesis distortion.
    
    I've never heard a multi-effect unit with a distortion that I
    personally didn't find overly compressed and buzzy, at least for my
    tastes (yes, I've heard the 4Verb-GT distortion).
    
    However, that particular sound (compressed/buzzy) seems to be pretty
    popular among HM'ers so I would recommend what your guitarist is gonna
    do anyway: do it whichever way he likes best.
    
    	db
    
    P.S. I think the unit of choice for me is probably the ART SX-2000.
         It uses actual tubes for its distortion.
    
         But it costs a LOT more than the Quadraverb GT.
466.675But...they're good at that sound!GOES11::G_HOUSEBlack Sheets Of RainMon Jun 29 1992 17:529
    re: Coop

>Perhaps he plays speedie-metal stuff (dunno, WHERE'S MY TAPE! :).

    Yeah, sorta.  What's your point?  The JCM900 makes a killer speed/death
    metal sound when set up that way (drop out the mids, the tone controls
    actually work on these amps!)
    
    gh
466.677VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Mon Jun 29 1992 18:032
    
    I'll let him know, thanks for the tips!
466.678KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Mon Jun 29 1992 18:034
Yeah but "compressed and buzzy" is highly desireable for that genre'.
Marshalls might be good at "compressed and buzzy", but rack units are
probably pretty good at it too.
:)
466.679Mea boogieDREGS::BLICKSTEINdbMon Jun 29 1992 20:1810
    > Marshalls might be good at "compressed and buzzy",  but rack units
    > are probably pretty good at it too.
    
    I think that's a fair description of the classic Marshall sound.
    But I would never mistake any distortion unit I've heard for a
    Marshall.
    
    But remember, I'm a "smooth, singing" type of Boogie guy.  Boogie's
    are like the total opposite of Marshall's - i.e. a lot of what people
    like about them is that they don't compress the signal as much.
466.680Nice Job!NEMAIL::MERCIERStartin up a Posse'Mon Jun 29 1992 20:3414
    I listened to your demo.....you guys dont like Iron Maiden do you? :*)
    I thought it came out good. There were a couple of things I would have
    done slightly different; brought the rythym guitar up a bit and get the
    sound a bit more fat. Also, the snare needs to be fattened up in a
    couple of spots..It tends to get a bit lost here and there. Otherwise,
    I like the double bass in FDD and the rest of the tape sounds really
    good. The press kit looks good...try and get a photo done. Those are
    fairly important. I will try and give a better review at a later point.
    
    BTW- Im still working the WW show....Im convinced that you guys would
    fit the bill with WW. I just need to have the club confirm the show.
    
    Good Job...shop it!
    
466.681CoolGOES11::G_HOUSEBlack Sheets Of RainMon Jun 29 1992 20:543
>Im still working the WW show..
    
    You guys are playing Wally World??
466.683CAVLRY::BUCKMon Jun 29 1992 21:331
    Wally World is a better gig!
466.684NEMAIL::MERCIERStartin up a Posse'Tue Jun 30 1992 12:214
    Wrong!...Im trying to set up a show with Wicked Witch for these guys.
    Details to follow in a few days....good guesses though.
    
    Bob
466.685VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Tue Jun 30 1992 14:1613
	
    re: Bob
        
    Our photo is going to be done at the Higgins Armory in Worcester.
    Medival suit of armor in the background of our picture would
    be roolin. I believe the have a suited horse and man there
    that would be perfect!!
    
    Thanks for working that for us, and thanks for the review. I'm
    not happy with the snare soundon the tape either. Since that 
    time I went back to a frosted head and it sounds MUCH better,
    plus the next trip in I'm triggering (I thought I'd never say
    that at one time).
466.686Would be cool!MPGS::HOWESIfICouldOnlyHearTheThunderInYourHeart.Tue Jun 30 1992 19:4012


	Let us know if you do that Bob...

	I have been wanting to see Wicked Witch for a LONG time...


	Work on a weekend show! hehehehe ;^)


							-Seth
466.687VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Thu Jul 02 1992 13:3013
    
    
    		Mystic Powers will appear in Boston, MA at:
    
    
    
    		      The Rathskeller in Kenmore Square!
    
    			  Wednesday, August 5, 1992
    
    				with....
    
    			  Genocide and Chop Shop!
466.688-1!OLTRIX::ZAPPIAMind the crapThu Jul 02 1992 14:105
	Ah, finally a show that even us carless (and sometimes clueless)
	people can make!

	- Jim
466.689VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Thu Jul 02 1992 14:192
    
    I'm wicked psyched! I haven't played the Rat since '87!
466.690VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Thu Jul 09 1992 15:118
    
    We're looking for a booking agent and/or management. If anyone has
    any tips, or someone in mind that does our type of music, it
    would be much appreciated. We've run into a dead end trying to
    find one that will do metal in the area, and we'd like to off load
    booking so we can concentrate on other stuff.
    
    Thanks in advance...
466.691KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Thu Jul 09 1992 15:515
Pete,

My tip is don't deal with band management/agents.  They're scum.

jc (Who will NEVER do that again)
466.692exitNEWOA::DALLISONshnaffleFri Jul 10 1992 17:105
    
    Well Coop,
    
    We have a manager and an agent and they are both decent guys and
    haven't screwed us up - yet.
466.693KDX200::COOPERA regular model of restraint...Fri Jul 10 1992 19:055
tick-tick-tick...

All in good time T-cubed!
I haven't seen one yet that wasn't a crook.
jc
466.694NEWOA::DALLISONDisturbing my little peaceThu Jul 16 1992 09:0633
    
    
    Well, I wasn't going to post this at first as it may be viewed as 'a
    slagging off for the sake of it' but its honestly not intended to be.
    
    Its just my thoughts on the MP tape :-
    
    
        Pete's drumming chops are good, but the overall wimpey drum sound 
        (studio) lets him down mucho.
        
        The singer's voice isn't suited to that stuff but I imagine if he 
        slowed down and sung the odd melody then it would be a vast 
        improvement - if thats not what MP are lookng for though get a new
        singer.
     
        The guitarist sounded awful. His sound was totally wrong for the 
        thrash style and his soloing was boring as hell. His rhythm chops 
        were good though. Personally, I'd change the guitar sound and 
        bring in a good lead guitarist and stick the original guy doing
        rhythm.
    
        The bass player sounded out of tune and out of time constantly. 
        Either that or he was playing a cheapo fretless - listen to it 
        under the solo's.
        
        The songs themselves had the potential to be very good but the 
        *total* lack of bollocks totally let it down. A good first step, as 
        I mentioned, would be to tune the bass properly in synch with the 
        guitarist, add a second lead guitarists and get a new singer!
        
        Just my humble opinion!
        -Tony
466.695;'))))MR4DEC::JWHITMANI'll be Ba--aack....Thu Jul 16 1992 14:575
    
    
    
    
    So, I take it you loved it... 
466.696NEMAIL::MERCIERIshouldjustletitgoandletthebloodflowThu Jul 16 1992 15:108
    I would suggest self-management. If your looking for Indy label
    interest, they tend to like self-managed bands. The managers usually
    cause problems with deal requirements and wants. Also, its tough
    to find a good manager!
    
    JMHO
    
    Bob
466.697Of course I know GWAR...I'm their F**KIN managerCOMET::FRISBYASoundgarden...Just say NOThu Jul 16 1992 16:365
    The manager we're looking into getting is Sleazy P. Martini from GWAR!
      He'll rob us blind just like any other manager.....8)
    
     Friz
    
466.698VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Fri Jul 17 1992 14:064
    
    Tone, thanks for the review! I wasn't happy with the drum mix either.
    Next time will definitely be different!
    
466.699RAVEN1::JERRYWHITERen, what's `TFSO' mean ?Fri Jul 17 1992 14:095
    Speaking of drum mixes ... I've been listing to "To Hell With The
    Devil" by Stryper lately - one of the best drum do's I've heard in a
    LONG time.  
    
    Scary
466.700VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Fri Jul 17 1992 16:2017
    
    We're having a party tommorrow at 5:00pm at the space. It will be Mystic 
    Powers, Sick Dog, and Genocide playing. $5.00 gets you lots of free beer 
    and a ticket to the Escape show Saturday night July 25th. 
    
    Directions are easy. Take route 62 west until it merges with 70. Go
    on 70/62 past the dam and down the hill. Take the first right after
    the gas station (Green st). 
    
    The space is in the Dunn building. Plenty of parking. Go in the door
    and up the stairs, through the door on the left. Take your first left
    into the warehouse and our space is the third door.
    
    The place is plenty big, so come down drink, jam, bash out, raise 
    general hell, etc...
    
    See u there.
466.701CoolCSC32::B_TURNBAUGHZOMBIE LOVEFri Jul 17 1992 17:118
    re:-1
    
                Wish I lived alittle closer sounds like a good time!!
    
                Hey, gh,coop,j,frizpup, we need to do something like this
                before summer is over!!!!  
    
                                                         s/b
466.702GOES11::G_HOUSEBlack Sheets Of RainFri Jul 17 1992 17:293
    Right you are, Skip!  We *do* need to have a big bash!
    
    gh
466.703just jj ITS friday!!!!!!!!!!1 '*)ABACUS::MATTHEWSSINGLE with TOYZ !!! Fri Jul 17 1992 21:1617
    re .733
    
    >>>Stryper
    
    Yea , the guys from stryper are really good friends with this 
    guy i'm dating. Before they broke up they wanted him to play replace
    the bass player a while back....
    
    AND i could have front row tix's :*) 
    
    just not my LUCK 'MON'
    
    	;')
    
    			wendy o'
    
    
466.704NEWOA::DALLISONDisturbing my little peaceSat Jul 18 1992 06:461
    Listen to Shotgun Messiah's latest for the ULTIMATE drum sound!
466.705VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Mon Jul 20 1992 12:315
    
    Maybe Escopose can play that for me. I'm sure he's triggering.
    What I need is a good library to go from. Any tracks on that
    which have JUST the drums (like just the snare or bass drum, etc).
    Can't take it if there's anything else present.
466.706CAVLRY::BUCKDon't fear, Love will make us strongMon Jul 20 1992 12:476
    >Maybe Escopose can play that for me. I'm sure he's triggering.
    
    Actually, he's not.  I read an interview with producer Pat Regan in
    MIX Mag, and he said that a lot of sounds he got were from fooling
    with mic placement, although there is one tune on the Shotgun album
    which has Digital samples mixed in with the real drum ones (Trouble).
466.707That technology may not be there for guitars, but is for drumsDREGS::BLICKSTEINdbMon Jul 20 1992 15:2533
    BTW Pete, although the "sampling" technology doesn't allow you to
    sample your favorite guitar player and sound just like him, the
    technology IS mostly there for drums.
    
    It can be tricky taking the samples off of records.  Basically if you
    want the snare, you have to find a section of the song where nothing
    is going except the snare.  Obviously if there's a vocal line being
    sung when the snare is hit, everytime you trigger the snare hit, you'll
    also get the vocals.
    
    Now, in the first paragraph I said you can "sound like" whomever you
    want.  What I really meant to say is that "your kit can sound like"
    whomever you want.  It's not a short-cut for "chops".
    
    Obviously just sampling Neil Peart won't allow you to do those
    Peart thirty-second note tom rolls if you don't have the chops
    to actually play them.
    
    The drummer in my band has a MIDI kit and we are re-recording our demo
    and started on the drums last week.  I'm real excited about this
    because recording drums is definitely one of the hardest things
    to do, especially in a 4-track environment like mine, and doing it
    with the MIDI kit means we might never have to setup a mic.  We can
    use professionally recorded drum samples.
    
    It also means that we can "edit" (on the computer) things we don't
    like (mistakes, or we can quantize sections that aren't quite played
    in sync).
    
    It also means that if we get a good take, but don't like the snare
    sound, we can just a different sound with that SAME take.
    
    Initial experiments were very promising.
466.708VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Tue Jul 21 1992 13:289
    
    I know about the chops, Dave. We went through it in the studio with the
    engineer but I didn't use it that time. Chops aren't a problem, but
    I want to get a killer Anthrax/Pantera drum sound so triggering might
    be a way to accomplish it.
    
    BTW, I'm going to be doing the studio work for Sanguinary's new demo.
    
    /prc
466.709CAVLRY::BUCKDon't fear, Love will make us strongTue Jul 21 1992 13:447
    I don't think triggering is the answer.  For one, you have to deal with
    an annoying time delay factor in the triggers, as well as always
    maintaining the correct source level to procude a trigger.  It can be a
    trickey process.
    
    My opinion is that the way to  go is to MIX an acoustic drum sound with
    a processed one...like the way Duran Duran used to do it.
466.710What HE really needs is......ABACUS::MATTHEWSSINGLE with TOYZ !!! Tue Jul 21 1992 21:1312
    
    
    re.last
    
    
    I** think****
    	 Prc might need a metronome more than anything else
    
    
    		wendy o'
    
    
466.711Wagagagagagagaaaaaaa... Whaaa...Winahahahahaha...KDX200::MIDDAY::CooperTue Jul 21 1992 22:115
Jeeeezzzzzzz Wendy !!!

Don't pull any punches hun, just tell it like it is !!!

jc
466.712VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Wed Jul 22 1992 12:463
    
    Wendy, get a life. I have NEVER had any complaints on any of the studio
    work I've ever done.
466.713AD::FLATTERYThu Aug 27 1992 17:418
    PRC called me and asked me to post this note.........The band is doing
    a Showcase at GCB Soundstage under Jillians by Axis on Lansdown st. in 
    Boston on Friday, September 4th. Pirate Productions is sponsoring
    it. Pete says that there will be 5 bands playing that night and the
    show starts at 8pm. He doesn't know what time MP will be going on as
    yet. He also has $1 off tickets so call him if you want to go and want
    the buck off.           .................................../k
    
466.714AD::FLATTERYThu Aug 27 1992 17:421
    ...oh and it's an all ages show as well....................
466.715CAVLRY::BUCKC'mon baby lets go for a rideThu Aug 27 1992 17:449
    >PRC called me and asked me to post this note.........The band is doing
    >a Showcase at GCB Soundstage under Jillians by Axis on Lansdown st. in 
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Isn't that OVER Jillians?!?  That is where Contagious did their
    Relativity showcase.
    
    Are MP doing this showcase for a record company, or just for the heck
    of it??
466.716AD::FLATTERYThu Aug 27 1992 19:017
    ...It might be under Jillians instead of over but i thought he said
    under.....whatever..how about "near" jillians.....;'))....i don't know
    if this is the same place that contagious used...Bob, could we have a
    judges ruling on this??...and he didn't say why they were doinng this
    he just said that it's a pirate production thang....with 4 other
    bands.......                                  k??......../k
    
466.717Thats where we Showcased!NEMAIL::MERCIERI tHinK,TheRe4 iM nOt a gYm TeacHeRThu Aug 27 1992 19:1811
    Yes it is under Jillians Billiards, but the name is TCB. The sound
    system there is not very good....especially for the quality you should
    have while doing s showcase. We did our showcase there. The monitors
    blew out, for the ENTIRE band they only miked my snare and kick and
    the mixing gear there is pretty horrible.
    
    Is there going to be a Label there??? Who???
    
    Tell Pete best of luck!!
    
    Bob
466.718With regards.CHEFS::PF90Honky Tonk NemisesFri Aug 28 1992 14:0719
    
    
    Having had my lyrics (see topic 32 - Metallica No. 1095) being described
    as very Mystic Powers influenced I obvisously became interested in the
    group. Unfortunately I cannot find any of their stuff, with being in 
    England.
    
    If your reading this Pete then check the lyrics out and if you like
    them then by all means use them. I don't know how you write, whether
    it's from lyrics, musical ideas, or just over a beer (my favorite 
    approach!). 
    
    Anyway Pete, hurry up and release an international rec. so I know what
    you guys are like; if CAVLRY::BUCK isn't as bias as he seems then you
    must be pretty shit hot.
    
    See ya, Tony. 
    
    
466.719CAVLRY::BUCKC'mon baby lets go for a rideFri Aug 28 1992 14:133
    Pete got TFSO'd, so I don'ty think he'll be responding to your note,
    Tony!!  I have a tape of Mystic Powers, with lyrics included, that
    you can have, if you'd like.  Lemme know.
466.720MR4DEC::JWHITMANI'll be Ba--aack....Fri Aug 28 1992 16:358
    
    
    
    TCB studio? You go in the front, up the staircase, down a hall
    then your in what seems a large apartment.. right? When I went
    there they had a keg flowin in the Jaccuzi.. was a good time.
    
    Wpose-
466.721NEMAIL::MERCIERI tHinK,TheRe4 iM nOt a gYm TeacHeRFri Aug 28 1992 16:443
    Tats the place!
    
    Bob
466.722MR4DEC::JWHITMANI'll be Ba--aack....Fri Aug 28 1992 16:474
    
    
    
    So, are they gonna have a keg flowin?! :') 
466.723GOES11::G_HOUSEAll over but the shoutingMon Aug 31 1992 16:3512
    re: Bob
    
> We did our showcase there. The monitors
>    blew out, for the ENTIRE band they only miked my snare and kick and
>    the mixing gear there is pretty horrible.
    
    I wonder if  they didn't do that to you on purpose?  You know, to see
    how you react to adverse circumstances at a live show.
    
    So, does /prc have another job yet?  What's he doing these days?
    
    gh
466.724MR4DEC::JWHITMANI'll be Ba--aack....Mon Aug 31 1992 17:059
    
    
    So, whos goin this Friday? I talked to the person putting it on and
    he said it's a new thing they're gonna be doin every Friday.. They 
    are gonna have bands up at the studio, 5 bucks to get in and $1 beer
    all night.. Sounds like a pretty cheap night.. I might actually show
    up this weekend..
    
    Wpose- 
466.725Mystic Powers at forceCHEFS::PF90Honky Tonk NemisesTue Sep 01 1992 09:0122
    
    To CAVLRY::BUCK,
    
    Cheers for the offer; of course I like a tape. My address is -
    
    106 Basingstoke Rd
    Reading
    Berkshire
    England
    RG2 OEL
    
    Went to the festival here (you might of heard of it - Reading Festival)
    and Nirvana where the headliners (of course). L7 are a pretty cool
    band. Anyway, it was fantastically energetic all day (in more ways than
    one). 
    
    It was the first time I seen Nirvana and their live performances are
    a lot better than their bootlegs.
    
    Thanks again Buck.
    
    Tony.
466.727i'm in a nasty mood today :')CONTRA::BEL_KWINITHIt's big, it's heavy, it's wood.Fri Sep 25 1992 19:189
    
    i think this note gets the award for name most changed :').
    
    trivia: can anybody remember the names of all pete's part bands? :')
    bonus points if you can name the names of all the perfect women he's
    found that only "ended up interfering with his music career"
    
    :') :')
    
466.728CONTRA::BEL_KWINITHIt's big, it's heavy, it's wood.Fri Sep 25 1992 19:223
    
    oops, that was past bands, not part bands.
    
466.729CAVLRY::BUCKDon't fear, Love will make us strongFri Sep 25 1992 19:2210
    TRIVIA:
    
    Gee,  that's a tough one, but I'll give it a shot:
    
    * Golgotha
    * Gorehounds
    * Chain Reaction
    * Nevermore
    * Namesake
    * Mystic Powers
466.726CAVLRY::BUCKDon't fear, Love will make us strongFri Sep 25 1992 23:564
    MODS...please leave this note IN...thanks!
    
    
    -1  Dude, I haven't forgotten about ya!
466.730MSBOS::MCBRIDEpocketful of kryptoniteFri Oct 02 1992 17:349
    So, like, what is Mystic Powers doing these days?
    
    When I started working here at LTN-2 I went around trying to find
    Pete, only to find out later, here in HM, that he'd been TFSO'd.
    
    Anybody here keep in touch with him?
    
    -- 
    Kevin
466.7318)COMET::FRISBYAspell I-M-A-G-E and say LIGHTBULBFri Oct 02 1992 17:416
  KEvin  As Buck would say and I would have to agree with:
    
          WHO CARES?
    
        Friz
    
466.732Phhhhttt!MSBOS::MCBRIDEpocketful of kryptoniteFri Oct 02 1992 17:478
    Re: Frizzbrain
    
    > WHO CARES?
    
    I DO.
    
    --
    Kevin
466.733CAVLRY::BUCKVote for Hillary's huzband!Fri Oct 02 1992 17:515
    RE: Kevvy
    
    Well, knowing Cystic Flowers, they're probably STILL rehearsing at
    that Mill in Clinton Centre ... stop by if you wanna see what they're
    up to.  I mean, god knows I haven't heard of them gigging anywhere?!
466.734...fyi.......AD::FLATTERYFri Oct 23 1992 13:335
    PRC called and wanted me to say hi to everyone in here for him...he's 
    working a new job in cambridge at a company called NCS....a financial 
    software house i believe.....the band is playing at the Atlantic lounge 
    in Revere on October 29th and at the Rockpile on the 30th.......
    informationally yours......................../k
466.735CAVLRY::BUCKMath Class is HARD!Fri Oct 23 1992 14:0610
    >PRC called and wanted me to say hi to everyone in here for him...he's 
    >working a new job in cambridge at a company called NCS...
    
    and it's legendary!
    
    
    >the band is playing at the Atlantic lounge in Revere on October 29th
    >and at the Rockpile on the 30th....... 
    
    Gee, I see they're really moving up in the world.
466.736KDX200::COOPERI even use TONE soap !!Fri Oct 23 1992 14:064
Did you tell him how much we all miss him ?!?!?!?

I wonder if he's teaching people how to write device drivers in Cambridge?
:)
466.737SUBURB::COOKSLife`s a game of 90 minutesFri Oct 23 1992 15:366
    I wonder how his relationship with Tracy is getting on? 
    
    My sad life just isn`t the same without hearing about luverly jubberly
    his bleedin` bird is every bleedin` day. ho!ho!
    
    
466.738Whoooo boy, knifes be flyin' everywhere!OOBIE::DAMOREWelcome to the Jungle....Fri Oct 23 1992 15:4510
wow, tough crowd!  :^)

    >the band is playing at the Atlantic lounge in Revere on October 29th
    >and at the Rockpile on the 30th....... 

I haven't been there in...oh...7 or 8 years.  But the Atlantic lounge
last time I was there...Well I went to see a friend from High School
play.  Um, maybe that says it all???

-a
466.739MSBCS::MCBRIDEWon't you be my neighbor?Fri Oct 23 1992 16:0911
    
    stopped by /prc's old office (very near to mine) the other day.
    
    Still empty.  Still old stuff on the white board.  Looks like they
    just threw 'im out on 'is keester and never bothered with touchin'
    any of his work stuff.
    
    His name tag is still up on his office too...
    
    -- 
    Kevin "actually, there's a lot of empty space in this building..."
466.740BUSY::SLABOUNTYI'm so damn cool.Sat Oct 24 1992 11:036
    
    	You know, we do have note 99 set up for the stuff that I just
    	deleted from this note.
    
    							GTI
    
466.741MSBCS::MCBRIDEWon't you be my neighbor?Mon Oct 26 1992 13:522
    
    Kill joy... :^P
466.742Atlantic Lounge ScoopCTHQ1::DELUCOCT, Network ApplicationsWed Oct 28 1992 17:0429
    Re Atlantic Lounge...a little late but if you talk to Pete, you might
    want to pass this on.  Maybe he should bring a cage.
    
    Jim
    
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    Where's Atlantic Lounge, Revere and what's it like to play in?
    
    Thank's
    
    Jim
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AD::FLATTERY                                          7 lines  10-SEP-1992 16:56
                -< ...outside of that it was a fun place...;') >-
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    it's on the ocean rd that runs right along revere beach....last time i 
    was there a huge fight broke out that spread to almost all the patrons
    ......fortunately i got whisked out of there...i understand that the
    guy who runs the place...at least as of last year.....was a definite
    schmuck....apparently his attitude was "if you don't like it, tough...
    i've got 28 other bands that'll take the gig"....this was the guy who
    ran it as of about a year ago.................../k
466.744CAVLRY::BUCKCards for sorrow, cards for painWed Oct 28 1992 17:272
    Or maybe he'll go out with WENDY*O again, and re-institute her as
    Moderator of EHM!
466.746CAVLRY::BUCKCards for sorrow, cards for painWed Oct 28 1992 17:377
    Yeah ... Pete used to Moderate HM at one time.  he went on a tirade one
    day about wanting WENDY*O (his SO at the time) to be a co-moderator.
    The request was reviewed and subsequently denied, so he made this big
    announcement that "Wendy O has been added as a co-moderator of EHM".
    
    
    Buck, not bustin, juz stating the FACKS(tm)!
466.747GOES11::G_HOUSEWho do you want to be today?Wed Oct 28 1992 17:444
    Actually, it wasn't *quite* like that, but I don't really care to
    elaborate...
    
    gh
466.750NEMAIL::MERCIERSiCK mANWed Oct 28 1992 18:254
    BTW- What does EHM stand for? I wasnt in the conference at that point.
    
    
    Bob
466.751GOES11::G_HOUSEWho do you want to be today?Wed Oct 28 1992 18:3317
    Bob,
    
    I think it stood for Extremly Heavy Metal, or Extra Heavy Metal, or
    something like that.  It actually had some fairly interesting bands
    discussed in it, but there really wasn't very much activity.
    
    Buck,
    
    It was actually Wendy that started the thing about her wanting to be a
    moderator.  Accused us of being sexist and some other such nonsense. 
    Pete just chimed in 'cause they were close.  One part I'm sure you
    probably missed was me freakin and going non-linear in mail to the
    other Mods.
    
    Ah, the good ole' days...
    
    gh
466.759CHEFS::PF90Honky Tonk NemisesTue Dec 08 1992 12:083
    Does anyone no how Mystic Powers are getting on. It's been some time
    since I've been in here, and I can't be bothered to look through all
    the notes.
466.760BUSY::SLABOUNTYPolitically impoliteThu Dec 17 1992 09:577
    
    	I deleted last night's stuff, because it really shouldn't be
    	here in the first place.  In the second place, he's not here
    	to defend himself.
    
    	/smlrc
    
466.761SUBURB::COOKSReading 4 Manchester 0Thu Dec 17 1992 11:144
    I know.
    
    Good,innit?
    
466.762NEMAIL::MERCIERTHeVIolEnCeBEgInsWHenTHeLIgHtsGOouTThu Dec 17 1992 11:354
    Defend himself???....nobody's saying anything bad.........
    
    
    :*)
466.766FRETZ::HEISERarms raised in a VFri Dec 18 1992 15:323
    I was cleaning out my tape collection last night and found an MP tape. 
    Is there anyone that didn't get one that would be interested in hearing
    it?
466.767POWDML::BUCKLEYWatch the Sparrow falling..Sat Dec 26 1992 19:163
    I was cleaning out my tape collection last night and found an MP tape. 
    Is there anyone that didn't get one that would be interested in hearing
    it?
466.782..my office....information capital of the world...AD::FLATTERYMon Dec 28 1992 16:394
    ...you may not believe this but it's true...got a message on la machine
    from pete today.....said something about his band playing with Izzy
    Stradlin and the JuJu Be's...(whatever....)...in January ...haven't 
    called him back yet to get the details though................./k
466.783BUSY::SLABOUNTYPolitically impoliteMon Jan 18 1993 11:4817
    
    	You know, all this "Pete Bashing" was somewhat amusing for the
    	first week or so, and the "E.M. Loews" jokes were hilarious the
    	first 15000 times, but it's all getting old.
    
    	Bob Mercier is the only one in here who could even justify all
    	the ribbing that he's done, being the only one with a real fut-
    	ure [or at least a start] in the music business.  All the rest
    	of you are basically wanna-be's who haven't quite made it yet,
    	for one reason or another.
    
    	So give it a rest.  Thank you.
    
    	[And Bob, this DOES NOT give you permission to continue.  8^)]
    
    							GTI
    
466.784POWDML::BUCKLEYAshes can't answer her painMon Jan 18 1993 12:0039
    >	You know, all this "Pete Bashing" was somewhat amusing for the
    >	first week or so, and the "E.M. Loews" jokes were hilarious the
    >	first 15000 times, but it's all getting old.
    
    So what's your point?
    
    
    >	Bob Mercier is the only one in here who could even justify all
    >	the ribbing that he's done, being the only one with a real fut-
    >	ure [or at least a start] in the music business.  All the rest
    >	of you are basically wanna-be's who haven't quite made it yet,
    >	for one reason or another.
    
    This reminds me of the arguement in the Extreme topic a while back
    where people were expressing (negative) opinions on the band, and
    someone was arguing that since they weren't in the music business,
    they really didn't have anything to say about it.  BULL!  One doesn't
    need to be in the thick of things to have a worthy opinion on
    something!
    
    As far as your statement on "wanna be's".  Forget it -- I did my stint
    in the music biz, and was pretty successful (worked as an engineer in
    some hip studios with some cool people on some cool projects), but my
    expensive lifestyle requires a good paying job, thank you, which is 
    why I choose NOT to further persue a music career.  However, in the
    15 years I did spend in it, I'll have more experience than Pete Cook
    and Mystic Powers will ever have, so in case you're looking for
    "reasons" to hold an opinion, consider this mine!
    
    What you fail to see is that the humor in all of this Pete/MP ribbing
    is the irony of it all.  Face it, they're Legends in their own minds,
    and forever will be playing shows like the "No Bozos Jam" at Derringers.
    The stytle of music they play is dead in the marketplace, and another
    thing is they don't play it will enough to matter, even if it was
    "en vouge".
    
    nuff said
    
    
466.785NEWOA::DALLISONIraqnaphobiaMon Jan 18 1993 12:0916
    
    Good note Shawn,
    
    Buck, but does your experience give you the right to put other people
    down my friend ? Some people *know* that they will never be a world
    famous musician but enjoy playing music anyway for FUN. Does your
    experience also give you the ability to see deep into the future as to
    what these bands will achieve ?
    
    If you were so good in the music business, surely would you not now be
    producing top name bands and making hundreds of thousands of dollars
    from each project and thus catering for your expensive lifestyle ?
    
    Not wanting an argument Buck, just asking questions buddy.
    
    -tony
466.786POWDML::BUCKLEYAshes can't answer her painMon Jan 18 1993 12:1937
    Tart,
    
    >Buck, but does your experience give you the right to put other people
    >down my friend ? Some people *know* that they will never be a world
    >famous musician but enjoy playing music anyway for FUN. 
    
    I call it as I see it...period!  If you think my honest opinions are
    "putting people down", then those are your words.  I don't think MP
    is a very good band, and I don't think they have the experience to 
    go anywhere on a professional basis, that's all I'm saying.  As far
    as some of the "personalities" involved in that outfit, well, I think
    the notes speak for themselves...
    
    
    >Does your experience also give you the ability to see deep into the 
    >future as to what these bands will achieve ?
    
    To a degree, yes.  My music background, coupled with the marketing
    experience gained from the 6 years in my last organization (CMS),
    gives me, imho, a pretty keen insight into trends in the business.
    Upon that, I can make good judgements on what will float and what
    won't.  Not saying I'm never wrong, but more often than not, I'm
    pretty on.
    
    
    >If you were so good in the music business, surely would you not now be
    >producing top name bands and making hundreds of thousands of dollars
    >from each project and thus catering for your expensive lifestyle ?
    
    Maybe -- If I wanted to wait it out over the years and give it a shot.
    Call it selfish, but I did not want to be the "poor musician living at
    home with their parents and who has $10 to their name for the entire 
    week, starving for my art and career".  To me, it wasn't worth the risk
    of time and money to change a possible "break" at some point.  In the
    music business, it's not how good you are, it's who you know and being
    in the right place at the right time.
    
466.787NEMAIL::MERCIERRage Against the Machine!Mon Jan 18 1993 12:436
    I have no right more then anybody else to bash Pete....I dont have
    anything against Pete and have never come right out and said anything
    about him....For that matter I havent seen anybody else do that either.
    Nothing that wasnt true anyways...
    
    :*)
466.788Which has now disapeared mysteriouslyNEWOA::DALLISONIraqnaphobiaMon Jan 18 1993 12:455
    
    
    Good reply Buck, shame you f*cked it to oblivion with the note title.
    
    -tony
466.789Doesn't say anything about that in the rules! ;^)DECAGE::HOWESWhen angels waken with a kiss....Mon Jan 18 1993 12:465

>    	[And Bob, this DOES NOT give you permission to continue.  8^)]
	Sorry, I didn't know that we needed permission from GTI
	to write notes.... 
466.790NEMAIL::MERCIERRage Against the Machine!Mon Jan 18 1993 12:4813
    .....and honestly......Id love to play EM Leows.....
    
    Buck- your right....one does not need to be a musician or in the thick
    of things to know about music....am I making sense???~! 
    
    Shawn- Im no different then anybody else in this conference. My band
           just happened to be in the right place at the right time...with
           luck. One thing thats happening alot lately is that people are
           starting to treat all of the band members differently....We dont
           like that......We are ordinary (questionable) people...like
           everybody...........!
    
    Bob  :)
466.791BUSY::ESCOBARAnyway You Want ItMon Jan 18 1993 13:149
    
    Look, I don't consider dredging up past notes as "Bashing somebody".
    Cuz that person did the damage by writing the note in the first place.
    Period.
    
    Now callin' a certain person names or such, is without a doubt,
    tasteless and classless.
    
    
466.792You should be one who understands this alreadyGOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Mon Jan 18 1993 15:1921
>    If you were so good in the music business, surely would you not now be
>    producing top name bands and making hundreds of thousands of dollars
>    from each project and thus catering for your expensive lifestyle ?
    
    Tony, as someone who's trying to make a career in the music business
    yourself, I'd think that you'd understand how much of it is a matter of
    being in the right place at the right time for a "break", not now good
    you are at doing it.
    
    In producing and engineering, just as in performing, there are only a
    limited number of openings for doing the top names (and making the top
    money) and sometimes it takes a lotta years to get there, if you ever
    do.
    
    As with many careers in the arts, it's difficult to make a good living
    doing it because the work is not always *steady*.  Even if you're
    making really good money on each project, it may be months between
    them (especially if you're priced out of the market for a lot of
    bands).
           
    gh
466.793BUSY::ESCOBARAnyway You Want ItMon Jan 18 1993 15:2412
    
    RE: Tony
    
    .785>> If you were so good in the music business, surely would you not now be
    .785>> producing top name bands and making hundreds of thousands of dollars
    .785>> from each project and thus catering for your expensive lifestyle ?
    
    	...and if you're so much better than Kirk Hammet, how come you
    ain't sellin' 20 million records world-wide?
    
    
    
466.794Exactly what this has to do with the topic beats me!NEEPS::IRVINESoldMySoulFerASausageRollMon Jan 18 1993 15:2816
    It's hard enough to make a descent living without taking the risk as a
    pro in the big bad world of Music.... at least when I have a day job I
    know I can survive... but the money from the first 6 months or so of
    gigging is usually required tio get things like the PA up to scratch,
    paying back loans for other essentials (backup guitars/amps..etc 8*).
    
    I see both sides of this er.. discussion, and there are valid points in
    both, I have been in the local scene (musically) long enough to know
    that talent counts for nothing in the local clubs, it's persuading
    people to part with money to listen to what you gotta say.
    
    The stuff I know play is pretty much just Rock Cover... but I know I
    can make resonable money off of this and it will be valued income when
    all the gear is working!
    
    Bonzo
466.795NEWOA::DALLISONIraqnaphobiaMon Jan 18 1993 15:2813
    
    Greg,
    
    I'm under no delusions as to the state of the music business and
    believe it or not, as much as I enjoy playing guitar, doubt that I will
    ever achieve anything outside of England. But, I enjoy playing guitar
    and anything other than that would be considered a bonus anyway.
    
    Chris,
    
    I don't think your reply really deserves an answer. 
    
    -tony
466.796SUBURB::COOKSYoung&amp;Rich-everything i desireMon Jan 18 1993 15:359
    I fink it`s easy if you`re in a band to think you`re the bees knees,
    `cos lets face it,if you put in the effort it takes to keep a band
    going,then you have to rate yourself.
    
    ...but at the end of the day,especially if you`re a mature myn and
    not a teenager,you gotta keep things in prospective.
    
    so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
    
466.797BUSY::ESCOBARAnyway You Want ItMon Jan 18 1993 15:574
    
    I'm jus' ribbin' ya Tony, chill...
    
    
466.798NEWOA::DALLISONIraqnaphobiaMon Jan 18 1993 16:113
    Sorry Chris, touchy subject.
    
    -tony
466.799No offense intended, mateGOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Mon Jan 18 1993 16:3312
    re: Tony
    
    I wasn't accusing you of having delusions, just trying to make the
    point that you should already be aware of how the music business works,
    at least from a performer's point of view.  It's not very different for
    engineers and producers.  They get well known by how successful what
    they work on becomes.  If they do a good job and luck out and work with
    someone who becomes famous, then they'll probably be in demand, at
    least for awhile.  But the industry's fickle and even if you're big
    today, you may be back to starvin again in 5 years.
    
    gh
466.802 Take a little humorCOMPLX::FERRISMr. Bad ExampleMon Jan 18 1993 16:5113
    
    
    Getting back to the real topic of this,
    
     I don't hink anyone was bashing on Pete, if the things that were said
    can't be taken in humor, by Pete or anyone else, I think you need to
    lighten up a bit. I'm sure Friz would get a laugh out of the references
    to him after he left. He had a great sense uf humor. If Pete or anyone
    else can't take a little laughter and a few pokes at some things said,
    Well, I feel sorry for you.
    
                                         mike
    
466.803NEWOA::DALLISONIraqnaphobiaMon Jan 18 1993 16:5110
    
    No offense taken Greg, I was just saying that although a couple years
    back I had a different attitude, now I'm basically getting too old and
    lazy to really do anything on a pro level but have accepted that and am 
    now happy to do it on a 'serious hobby' basis.
    
    Having said that, if Shotgun Messiah approached me tomorrow, I'd be out
    of the DEC doors like a shot!
    
    -tony
466.804sickening but trueFRETZ::HEISERreal men wear purpleMon Jan 18 1993 16:533
>    of time and money to change a possible "break" at some point.  In the
>    music business, it's not how good you are, it's who you know and being
>    in the right place at the right time.
466.805COMET::MARTINNToo sexy for this conferenceMon Jan 18 1993 21:1010
    re:-tony
    
    Seems to me you're making the argument I made with you when you took
    the oh-so "arrogant" attitude of bashing Kirk!
    
    re:Bob
    
    Answer your mail! :)
    
                        Rat
466.806that remindz me... 8*)POWDML::BUCKLEYAshes can't answer her painMon Jan 18 1993 22:324
    
    Lu,
    
    ANSWER YOUR MAIL!  8^)
466.807even his ex-girlfriend made fun of his drummingKDX200::ROBRMorning comes too early...Tue Jan 19 1993 13:0210
    before i read any further, tony's statement about 'some people know
    they will never make it and just want to have fun' has absolutely
    nothing to do with pete.  it's amazing  how great he thinks he is on
    drums (and that the current girl is the best and current band is the
    thing).  EVERY musician i've encountered that has played with pete
    makes fun of the same things about him.  every one.  he deserves the
    crap we gave him while he was here and anything we give him now.  he
    made his own bed...
    
    
466.808NEWOA::DALLISONIraqnaphobiaTue Jan 19 1993 13:117
    
    Rob,
    
    Anybody knows that there wasn't any love lost between Pete and I - I was 
    repling to Bucks note. I think this topic got somewhat sidetracked!
    
    -tony
466.809POWDML::BUCKLEYsometimes all i want to do is waitTue Jan 19 1993 13:112
    ex-girlfirend = WENDY*O, for those you you who have recently had
    lobotomys..............
466.810SUBURB::COOKSYoung&amp;Rich-everything i desireTue Jan 19 1993 15:224
    Actually,she`s my ex bird.
    
    er,not really.
    
466.811POWDML::BUCKLEYI am a Zipperhead!Tue Jan 26 1993 18:494
    Anyone going to see MP at the Rockpile/Battle of the Bands??  I got a
    flyer on it, but forget when it is (this Friday night??).
    
    /brc
466.812MR4DEC::JWHITMANResistance is futile....Tue Jan 26 1993 19:133
    
    
    Can you still get tickets, or is it sold out?
466.813POWDML::BUCKLEYI am a Zipperhead!Tue Jan 26 1993 19:156
    >Can you still get tickets, or is it sold out?
    
    I'm not sure about ticket availability -- the flyer does say "Mystic
    Powers, with National recording artists", so it may be pretty packed.
    I would suggest calling the cookster, or seasoned veteran Keith Poulin
    for ticket info...
466.814MR4DEC::JWHITMANResistance is futile....Tue Jan 26 1993 19:217
    
    
    
    You mean their phone numbers are available to the public?! How
    can they live like that?! phone ringing off the hook all day...
    
    But, I guess thats the price for fame..
466.816MR4DEC::JWHITMANResistance is futile....Tue Jan 26 1993 19:435
    
    
    
    
    AHHHHHHH!!!
466.817BUSY::SLABOUNTYPeter Horton Hears a WhoWed Jan 27 1993 10:014
    
    	Yes, the show is this Friday.
    
    							GTI
466.818Seasoned veterans...BOVES::FENNELLLiving life by the dropWed Jan 27 1993 12:121
Help, I'm caught in a time warp and can't get up...
466.819BUSY::ESCOBARWherever I May RoamThu Feb 18 1993 19:204
    
    
    Demons Fall As Angels Thrive
    Satan's Worshippers Take Their Lives
466.820WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_The_Dynamic_TensionThu Feb 18 1993 19:336
    Haunting_Hell,the Angels Prevail,
    Life has come,Satan has failed.
    
    
    
      Man,Chris,Are_We_Gonna_Get_Slammed_For_This,Or_What??
466.821BUSY::ESCOBARWherever I May RoamFri Feb 19 1993 17:069
    
        <<< Note 466.27 by VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK "Harvester of Sorrow" >>>

    
    	Another thing...One of our friends, a wicked fan of the band
    	has come into some serious money and wants to invest some
    	serious $$$$ into the band. This could mean some sessions
    	at Longview Farms and a CD!!
    
466.822MR4DEC::JWHITMANFri Feb 19 1993 17:374
    
    
    
    BWAHAHA!
466.823MR4DEC::JWHITMANFri Feb 19 1993 17:3918
    
    
Legendary double bass!!
    
    ==========================================================
    
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Note 466.127                      Mystic Powers                       127 of 822
VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK "Stormtrooper of Death"            6 lines  23-Jul-91 15:39
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    I was watching the video from Edible Rex last night. It's the first
    video where I can hear my double bass clearly. I couldn't believe it!
    Wow! It's really weird to hear something you've done. When you're
    doing it at the time everything seems in slow motion. When I saw/heard
    the tape I was happy! 8-)
466.824MR4DEC::JWHITMANFri Feb 19 1993 17:4320
    
    
    
What ever happen with this?! 
    
    
    
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Note 466.236                      Mystic Powers                       236 of 823
VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK "Stormtroopers Anonymous"          7 lines   6-Dec-91 10:08
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    I have excellent news!
    
    We are going to be doing a Heavy Metal night at the Stadium Club
    in Framingham in early 1992. It's going to be our official tape
    release party. There will be labels checking us out that night 
    and WAAF will be advertising the show extensively! Psyche!
466.825What do ya think?FRETZ::HEISERWHERE'S MY PROZAC!?!?Fri Feb 19 1993 17:481
    Andy has a copy of the tape now.  
466.826BUSY::ESCOBARWherever I May RoamFri Feb 19 1993 17:4911
    
    I wonder why!
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    <<< Note 466.117 by VCSESU::MOSHER::COOK "Stormtrooper of Death" >>>
    
    One thing I'll never do is individual solos. We're going to change
    the intro to Armageddon too.
    
466.827FRETZ::HEISERWHERE'S MY PROZAC!?!?Fri Feb 19 1993 18:0511
	This musician walks into this shop and says to the assistant
    
"I want a Fender Strat please, oh yeah, a 80 Watt amp, a Wah Wah pedal,
a distortion pedal and some plectrums". 
The assistant says "You're a drummer aren't you".
"I'm certainly not"
"come on, I know you are"
"I'm not, I'm bloddy not."
"look, I know you are, so stop pretending"
"OK" he says " But how did you know"
"Well", says the assistant, " We only sell fish and chips"
466.828POWDML::BUCKLEYsnow is a 4-letter word!Fri Feb 19 1993 18:193
    ba-domp!
    
    ..but seriously folks...
466.830POWDML::BUCKLEYsnow is a 4-letter word!Fri Feb 19 1993 19:162
    ...or "has airplay"...which turns out to be something like their
    tape got played once on Bay State Rock!  8^)
466.831The only real creativity in musicDREGS::BLICKSTEINHere all life aboundsFri Feb 19 1993 19:339
    or "has good equipment" (by 1960's standards anyway).
    
    or "about to sign" (a loan to pay off all the studio time).
    
    or "you have to have attitude" (cause we all sure do).
    
    or "with connections" (more commonly refered to as "dealers").
    
    or...
466.8328')BINKLY::DEMARSEAlison's starting to happenFri Feb 19 1993 19:351
    hahahaha....you guys are too much....
466.834BUSY::ESCOBARWherever I May RoamFri Feb 19 1993 19:485
    
    You people are a waste of human flesh.
    
    
    /crc
466.835MR4DEC::JWHITMANWed Mar 17 1993 15:2312
    
    
    
    
    So, did anyone else get a flier in the mail regarding the next MP show
    this Thursday at PT Beanies? Got some -1$ tickets with it also.
    
    
    Says they will be playing tunes from their up and coming album... 
    
    
    Whit-
466.836Mystic Powers returns metal to Worcester...METALX::SWANSONPeopleThinkI'mCrazyButI'mInDemandWed Mar 17 1993 15:342
    Yep, I got that flyer too!
    
466.837MR4DEC::JWHITMANWed Mar 17 1993 15:405
    
    
    
    I think F. sent the flyers out.. looks like a womans handwriting and
    in the corner it say 'Hi Whitpose!'. 
466.838BUSY::ESCOBARSo I Can See Where I'm Goin' BabyWed Mar 17 1993 15:433
    
    i got one too... and I can't go. Wotta a pal.
    
466.839POWDML::BUCKLEYWhoway, da Wabbit kicked da bucket!Wed Mar 17 1993 16:265
    Why does everyone in the band photo look like they just blew a jay
    before the photo shoot??
    
    
    Remember to Request Mystic Powers latest EP, "Life in the Fast Lane"
466.840MR4DEC::JWHITMANWed Mar 17 1993 17:005
    
    
    
    
    Bwahah!
466.841I'm going to call my next original 'Stairway to Heaven' ;-)DREGS::BLICKSTEINHere all life aboundsWed Mar 17 1993 17:034
>    Remember to Request Mystic Powers latest EP, "Life in the Fast Lane"
    
    More proof that song titles should be subject to Copyrights (see
    Coverdale/Page note for other proof).
466.842Wayne's WorldBOVES::FENNELLWhat you got buried in your backyard?Wed Mar 17 1993 17:281
No Stairway to Heaven!!!
466.843POWDML::BUCKLEYSong for AmericaWed Mar 31 1993 17:123
    Did anyone catch MP at PT Beanies ... you know, when they returned
    metal to Worcester??  I was curious how they did in that battle of
    the bands?!
466.844MR4DEC::JWHITMANWed Mar 31 1993 17:174
    
    
    
    no clue...
466.845METALX::SWANSONSwallowingColorsOfTheSoundIHearWed Mar 31 1993 17:296
    ...didn't go either.
    
    But now that the show's over, does that mean metal is gone from
    Worcester again???      
    
    
466.846poor people of worcester...KDX200::ROBRTonight we're on the loose...Wed Mar 31 1993 18:424
    
    most assuredly, i'd imagine.
    
    
466.847METALX::SWANSONSwallowingColorsOfTheSoundIHearWed Mar 31 1993 19:582
    Their suffering is Legendary!!
    
466.848BOVES::FENNELLBack to the LightWed Mar 31 1993 20:111
I can hear the double bass parts to One now...
466.850KDX200::COOPERLet The Light Surround You!!Wed Mar 31 1993 20:522
    Wagagagagaga...
    
466.851/brc ... Buck, you're killing meBINKLY::MINARDITue Apr 20 1993 19:326
    HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
    
    This is THE funniest note in the whole f****ng conference!! 
    The last 30 replies or so are exceptional.
    
    /M... ha ha haha!!!
466.852some of it was LEGENDARY!POWDML::BUCKLEYi'll take seven lives for oneTue Apr 20 1993 19:527
    >HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
    >
    >This is THE funniest note in the whole f****ng conference!! 
    
    
    Agreed, but you missed the REAL funny stuff (which was deleted
    by the mods almost immediately!)
466.853KDX200::COOPERLet The Light Surround You!!Tue Apr 20 1993 23:495
    Or by Pete write after he wrote it and got trounced on
    for doing so.  Remember how this guy used to put in blazing
    inferno notes and then delete them after stirring the sh*t??
    
    Wagagagaga...
466.854:')KDX200::ROBRNothing is sacredWed Apr 21 1993 15:136
    
    you're all pathetic
    
    /prIc
    
    
466.855POWDML::BUCKLEYSleeping Beauty Land and Theme ParkWed Apr 21 1993 16:061
    Wagagagagaga!
466.856LEGENDARY!POWDML::BUCKLEYSleeping Beauty Land Theme ParkThu May 20 1993 14:3814
    DROP EVERYTHING!!!
    
    
    Mystic Powers returns METAL to Worcester ONE MORE TIME -- This Friday,
    May 21st, at PT Beanies.
    
    Hear them perform songs off their upcoming album.
    
    Request their Killer debut EP, "Life in the Fast Lane", on area radio
    stations.
    
    
    Disclaimer:  Mystic Powers, the metal band, is not to be confused with
                 Mystic Travel, the travel agency!
466.857COMET::MARTINNI saw it on a PBS documentaryThu May 20 1993 14:445
    re.    Disclaimer:  Mystic Powers, the metal band, is not to be confused with
                 Mystic Travel, the travel agency!
    
    
    Too funny! :^)
466.858KDX200::COOPERLet The Light Surround You!!Thu May 20 1993 14:565
    >Hear them perform songs off their upcoming album.
    
    The one they've been working on since Pete got canned???
    jc
    
466.859METALX::SWANSONCrash Course In Brain SurgeryThu May 20 1993 15:064
 >   The one they've been working on since Pete got canned???
    
    That's the one!!
    
466.860LEDS::ORSIBeenFlushedFromTheBathroomOfYourHeartThu May 20 1993 15:2210
     Hey Coop,

     Pete got canned?!





     	His suffering must've been legendary.

466.861MR4DEC::JWHITMANI am smellin like the roseThu May 20 1993 16:294
    
    
    
    I wonder if Petes symphony will be on it?!?!?!
466.862JOKUR::ESCOBARI Can't Contain Myself!Thu May 20 1993 18:057
    
    Symphony Number One!
    
    ;')
    
    
    
466.863DREGS::BLICKSTEINMy other PC is a MacThu May 20 1993 21:097
    The Death Metal symphony?
    
    What's it called?  "Symphony for the Devil"???
    
    ;-)
    
    	db - who maybe oughta copyright that name before someone uses it
466.864KDX200::ROBRPhantasmagorical!!! - (Daffy)Fri May 21 1993 00:173
    
    is that the symphony that's similar to bohemian rhapsody???  :')
    
466.865OOBIE::DAMOREWelcome to the jungle...Fri May 21 1993 15:256
>    Disclaimer:  Mystic Powers, the metal band, is not to be confused with
>                 Mystic Travel, the travel agency!

And if it was you'd have to answer to me!

-a
466.866SUBURB::COOKSI`m so bored with the U.S.AFri May 21 1993 16:103
    Is it anything to do with Mystic Floor Polish,the floor polish with
    a sparkle?
    
466.867WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Walks_On_DownFri May 21 1993 16:434
    It's not a Floor Polish.It's a Desert_Toppin!!!
    I just might go see them this Week_End
    
                           Crazy_With_A_Sparkle_Al
466.868Couldn't resist...KDX200::COOPERLet The Light Surround You!!Fri May 21 1993 16:5011
    "I can't stand having a battle of the wits with such unarmed MORONS!
     If you don't all cease and desist I will have no choice but to report
     all of you to personnel.  Obviously, you people have no clue as to how
     to carry on a intelligent discussion.  The moderators of this
     conference should step down, for they obviously don't know how to 
     support the polcies of this conference and that of the orange book.
     I am now going to delete this conference from my notebook and go play
     in CATBOX and EHM!  Nice talking to you   -NOT!"
    
    /jrc
                                                     
466.869COMET::MARTINNI saw it on a PBS documentaryFri May 21 1993 17:151
    Yea, I want this 69!
466.870When_A_6_Turns_Out_To_Be_9WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Walks_On_DownFri May 21 1993 17:231
    It Must be Fry_Day**
466.871POWDML::BUCKLEYSleeping Beauty Land Theme ParkFri Jun 25 1993 19:4129
'Time to Die'  October 1986  Lyrics by Peter Cook   


Now it's time for me to die.
All my children sit and cry.
All they ask is why and,
they wish it was a lie!

All my senses disappear.
Please don't wisper in my ear,  (CHORUS)
no longer, can I hear.
All I can do now is fear.
Time to Die.

I will never get well.
I lay here in my hell.
My brain, turning to gell.
Am I alive? I cannot tell.

All my senses dissappear.
Please don't wisper in my ear,
no longer, can I hear.
All I can do now is fear.
Time to Die.

Why do they try to make me wake?
They all just think it's fake,
but my life He will take,
Take it now!
466.872POWDML::BUCKLEYSleeping Beauty Land Theme ParkFri Jun 25 1993 19:4222
'Armagedon' July 1988  Lyrics by Peter Cook


He has sent the angel of death,
to bring the evil one forth.
the strike of seven raises Him,
Satan is being torn.

He overtakes the slaves of hell.     
Satan's house is falling well.     
Devil's minion's cry in defeat,
His power, they will meet.
        
The holy torment the ghosts of sin.
Darkness infected, He will win.
"He rules supreme", 
I hear Satan scream.

Demons fall as Angel's thrive.
Satan's worshipers take their lives.
Haunting Hell, the angels prevail,
Life has come, Satan has failed.
466.873POWDML::BUCKLEYSleeping Beauty Land Theme ParkFri Jun 25 1993 19:4230
'Fear' Lyrics by Peter Cook  25-feb-88


I stalk the humans of your hometown.
I always know when fear is around.
So silent, you won't hear a sound.
You won't hear me, I'm part of the ground.

Fear is flowing, I can feel the chill.
It's time for me to get my fill.
One look and I will break your will.
Yes, it's time for me to kill.

I walk the paths of time and space.
I watch and laugh at the human race.
I feed on fear, see it in your face.

You're afraid, I smell it in the air.
Suddenly I grab you by the hair,
Screaming with fear, oh what a feast.
Now I'm controlled by the beast.

Before you die you can guess my name,
Everyone knows my claim to fame.
Fear is something that will never be tame,
I'm Jack the Ripper, and I feel no shame because,

I walk the paths of time and space.
I watch and laugh at the human race.
I feed on fear, see it in your face.
466.874POWDML::BUCKLEYSleeping Beauty Land Theme ParkFri Jun 25 1993 19:4233
	'Love' 		Lyrics by Peter Cook   		August, 1988


	I am ready to leave my steady.
	Gonna pick up the phone and call Freddie.
	I'll be seeing you in your dreams.
	Sanity's back or so it seems.

	You lacked stability.
	Responsibility!
	Freedom's back!
	It's here to stay!
	I'm not gonna live my life that way!

	Love, an emotion not for me.	
	Pain and hurt is all I see.
	I'll never fall in love again,
	That's the way it's gonna be!

	Time to jam with the boys.
	More time to make some noise.
	Next time you want to be,
	with me, pay the fee!

	Love, an emotion not for me.
	Pain and hurt is all I see.
	I'll never fall in love again,
	That's the way it's gonna be!

	Go ahead, make me cry.
	I'll go ahead and make you die.
	Emotions are something not for me,
	only a weakness for all to see.
466.875POWDML::BUCKLEYSleeping Beauty Land Theme ParkFri Jun 25 1993 19:4322
'Crooked Edge'  November 1987  Lyrics by Peter Cook

    
We're a crooked edge,
not a veg.
We do anything,
and do the job.        (Fast)
We do anything,
and surpass the mob.

Crooked edge!   (Very fast)
Crooked edge!

Hands of lightning,
brain of steel.
Our ability is frightning,
our senses reel.
We laugh at statistics,    (Fast)
straight edge can kneel.

Crooked edge!   (Very fast)
Crooked edge!
466.876KDX200::COOPERLet The Light Surround You!!Fri Jun 25 1993 20:003
    Where is the dbl. bass parts??
    
    :-)
466.877You_Forgot_OneWMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Walks_On_DownFri Jun 25 1993 20:0125
    You think that you rule the land.
    You say that you are the Man.
    You hide Behind all those Lies
    You take from the Hypnotized.
    
    You don't Pay,You'll go away
    'cause you've been bagged by the CIA
    
    Time is real,but you never feel
    the pain,which they once Endured
    that you must conceal with faith.
    In time,to save yer Aging_Face.
    
    You don't Pay,You'll go away
    'cause you've been bagged by the CIA
    
    Fate with debt,you will soon regret.
    And you,know you'll never find,
    your faith,in your Peace_Of_Mind
    with you,and with yer ManKind
    
    You don't Pay,You'll go away
    'cause you've been bagged by the CIA.
    UnCongrssional_MOSH!
    
466.878WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Walks_On_DownFri Jun 25 1993 20:023
    Opps...Sorry..   
    
    "Peter Cook" 1991
466.879KDX200::ROBRMaybe you'll figure it out somedayFri Jun 25 1993 20:083
    buck, dont forget the CLASSIC 'pete cook' lyrics!  you know the ones,
    right db??  :')
    
466.880what was the date on that?GOES11::G_HOUSESon of SpamFri Jun 25 1993 21:364
    "Swing yer partner, dig up graves
     Sex with the dead is what I crave!
     Grab that body, slam it on the ground,
     Do see do and promanade!"
466.881NEWOA::DALLISONThey make redundancies don't they?Sat Jun 26 1993 06:241
    These are hilarious!
466.882IMTDEV::COOPLove will conquer allSun Jun 27 1993 05:103
    Sounds like ya'll were bored on friday.  :-)
    
    cj
466.883NEWOA::DALLISONThey make redundancies don't they?Sun Jun 27 1993 06:521
    Your boredom will be legendary!
466.884KURMA::IGOLDIESecond heat..!Mon Jun 28 1993 08:234
    haha! 8)
    
    
                                                 ian
466.887MR4DEC::JWHITMANHuh.. Huh Huh.. That was cool.Mon Jun 28 1993 16:446
    
    
    
    
    BWHAHA! 
    
466.888Leave it to BeevisDREGS::BLICKSTEINDOS BootMon Jun 28 1993 19:233
    re: whit
    
    I STILL love that P/N dude.
466.891MR4DEC::JWHITMANHuh.. Huh Huh.. That was cool.Wed Jun 30 1993 17:1514
    
    
    RE:888
    
    Gotta love those guys!
    
    The Kiss one was a riot!
    
    
    
    The ones that make me laugh the most are when they are working in the
    fast food joint... 
    
    Whit-
466.892Total_Ass_MunchWMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Walks_On_DownWed Jun 30 1993 22:344
    "UHHHHhhhhhhhhh*    Pull_up to the..**  
    Uhhhhhh******       Go_Away!!    
    
      HaaaaahAHhAahaaa-hum_HaaaHHaaa
466.894*burp!*POWDML::BUCKLEYThe Rabbit of SevilleMon Aug 02 1993 19:181
    
466.895AC/DC ---- MetallicaDREGS::BLICKSTEINDOS BootMon Aug 09 1993 20:1710
    > *burp!*
    
    Hey Buck, that was a cool, heh  heheh... heh...
    
    	db - who's psyched about tonite for two reasons:
    
    		a) We run thru our first DT tune tonite and
    		b) It's the first time I'll have gotten together
    		   with Buck since observing that Buck *IS* a
    		   a dead ringer for Buttheads voice.  ;-)
466.896We're_There,Dude.WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Walks_On_DownMon Aug 09 1993 22:053
    Did Yall know that One guy does Both Bevis's and Butt_Heads Voice???
    
        Crazy_Tis_True_Al
466.898DO_NOT_MISS_THIS_SHOW!!WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Walks_On_DownThu Sep 09 1993 10:487
    Well,I got my Flyer InFormin me of the Mystic Powers Show at"Rhyths"
    in  Clinton this Satur_Nite.
    The Flyer has a Copy of A News_Paper Review..My Favorite Line is..
    "I bet you would need to be Scrapped off the Wall with a Spatula
    if you went to a Mystic Power Gig"
    
        Crazy_Might_Have_Some_Thing_There_Al
466.899BUSY::SLABOUNTYWhose Line Is It Anyway?Thu Sep 09 1993 11:087
    
    	I feel bad, because I haven't been to a show in a LONG time,
    	so I'd really like to go and see how they're doing ... but why
    	does it have to be Clinton?
    
    							GTI
    
466.900BOVES::FENNELLIn memory of #28Thu Sep 09 1993 13:152
Because they've already returned metal to Woosta

466.901KDX200::ROBROrange squares suck.Thu Sep 09 1993 15:154
    
    because they're playing in pete's backyard...
    
    
466.902whew!FRETZ::HEISERnotes from a lost civilizationThu Sep 09 1993 17:301
    I knew there was another good reason why I left that area.
466.903ICS::WHITMANMon Sep 13 1993 17:055
    
    
    RE:.900
    
    Bwhahaha!
466.904......AD::FLATTERYThu Oct 07 1993 13:387
    i have a vague memory of running into john the guitar player from 
    mystic powers the other night and i thought he said that they were
    looking for a new drummer.......not sure if i heard this right as i was
    only listening with half an ear....;')...but thought i'd float this in
    here anyway........rob?...do you recollect this conversation....??...
    ..on second thought, i seriously doubt you remember much of anything at
    that point...........;")........................../k
466.905BUSY::SLABOUNTYWhose Line Is It Anyway?Thu Oct 07 1993 14:297
    
    	I hope you heard it wrong ... I mean, how will they ever find
    	ANOTHER drummer who can do the double bass parts to "One" in
    	his sleep?
    
    							GTI
    
466.906METALX::SWANSONRide The LightningThu Oct 07 1993 15:166
    Well, you know, when you can play the double bass parts to "One" in
    your sleep, it's time for the BIG TIME!  Ya gotta move on!
    
    I heard Pete's learning to play the double bass parts to "One" in a
    coma now.  :')
    
466.907KDX200::ROBROrange squares suck.Thu Oct 07 1993 17:396
    
    oh my head... i TOTALLY forgot about that...  i do recall making fun of
    pete though.  the guitarist (?) didn't seem too pleased.
    
    :')
    
466.909CADSYS::FENNELLIn memory of #28Fri Oct 08 1993 01:561
Who'll write all their songs now?
466.910ICS::WHITMANFri Oct 08 1993 12:194
    
    
    
    Who'll finish the Symphony!? 
466.911I know who writes the SongsSTRATA::LAMOTHEVideo Productions...Fri Oct 08 1993 12:2114
    
    
     Barry Manillow.....He "writes the Songs".....
    
    
    
        No, he s**ks...heh heh...heh.
    
    /Sax
    
          
            
           
    
466.91416421::HEISERAWANAFri Oct 08 1993 20:3420
    I thought Barry wrote the songs that made the whole world sing!
    
    Now here's an oldie but goodie.  They play the best romantic music!
    
    
	AAAAAAAAA	AAAAAAAAA	AAAAAAAA
	AA     AA          AAA          AA     AA
	AA     AA          AAA 		AA     AA
   	AAAAAAAAA          AAA  	AAAAAAAA
	AA     AA	   AAA		AA   AA
	AA     AA	   AAA		AA    AA
	AA     AA   	AAAAAAAAA	AA     AA

 SSSSSSS   UU     UU	PPPPPPP	   PPPPPPP   LL		YY     YY
SS     SS  UU     UU	PP    PP   PP    PP  LL	 	 YY   YY
SS	   UU     UU	PP    PP   PP    PP  LL	  	  YY YY
 SSSSSSS   UU     UU	PPPPPPP	   PPPPPPP   LL	   	   YYY
       SS  UU     UU	PP	   PP	     LL	   	   YYY
SS     SS  UU     UU	PP	   PP        LL       	   YYY
 SSSSSSS    UUUUUUU	PP	   PP	     LLLLLLLLL	   YYY
466.915KDX200::ROBROrange squares suck.Mon Oct 11 1993 00:495
    
    gee, i was just watching tv the other day and i saw this commercial
    that said "there will never be another unfinished symphony".  guess
    they didn't know prc was no longer with cystic bowels.
    
466.916ICS::WHITMANTue Oct 12 1993 15:504
    
    
    
    So, has anyone confirmed that he's out? any reason????
466.917KDX200::ROBROrange squares suck.Wed Oct 13 1993 01:444
    
    not a matter of confirming.  the guy (guitar) said he was out and was
    thrown out.  i'd say that was confirmation enough.
    
466.918ICS::WHITMANWed Oct 13 1993 13:534
    
    
    
    Ahhh.. I see.. 
466.919what a shameFRETZ::HEISERvisualize whirled peasWed Oct 13 1993 13:591
    ...and he could do all those double-bass parts in his sleep too!
466.921USOPS::GALLANTbut she listens to Merle...Fri Feb 25 1994 09:5231
    	Posting it here as well for informational purposes..
    
    	tigg~~~~
    
    
From:	US3RMC::"73742.3307@CompuServe.COM" "Peter R. Cook" 24-FEB-1994 10:23:58.39
To:	kim gallant <usops::gallant>
CC:	
Subj:	new account


You can now reach me at:

	prc@world.std.com

Much easier to remember! COuld you post it in H_M?

Thanks!

-prc


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466.922look out, whit!POWDML::BUCKLEYRaptor -- Rules the Skies!Tue Mar 29 1994 12:411
    Rumor has it that /prc will soon be returning Metal to Marlboro!!
466.923GOES11::HOUSEAren't you glad I asked?Tue Mar 29 1994 14:581
    Is /prc in a band again?
466.924His new band is called "Blue Steel"DREGS::BLICKSTEINdbTue Mar 29 1994 15:1236
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    For those wondering where Pete Cook disappeared to, here's part of the
    answer:
    
From: prc@world.std.com (Peter R Cook)
Subject: BASS PLAYERS! Massachusetts band looking for Bass player.
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 21:14:32 GMT
 
	Blue Steel is looking for a bass player. Blue Steel plays
	originals, blues, classic rock, metal, and acoustic music.
 
	The band is represented by Black Dragon Entertainment and
	is planning to go into the studio this summer. The band
	has a gig in Marlborough MA, April 30th, and more after 
	this in Worcester, Boston, and surrounding states. The band
	has excellent equipment and is looking for a professional
	bass player who is versatile, has good showmanship, good
	equipment, and a good attitude. My entertainment company
	has excellent industry contacts. This could be your chance
	to get signed.
 
	The band practices in Clinton, Massachusetts. Please send
	-email to the below address!
,
 
-- 
Peter R. Cook - Unix, Ultrix,     |  Black Dragon Entertainment is a full l
& VMS Software Engineer for hire. |  service Management, Music (BMI/ASCAP), 
prc@world.std.com                 |  Record, & Production company. Inquire 
73742.3307@compuserve.com         |  within for more information.  
466.925KDX200::ROBRglazed ham!!!Tue Mar 29 1994 22:383
    
    are they returning metal to marlboro sometime soon?
    
466.926???CTHQ::GILFOYWed Mar 30 1994 12:222
    
    	...and where in Marlboro will they be returning to play ???
466.928KDX200::ROBRglazed ham!!!Thu Mar 31 1994 01:115
    
    returning metal to robinson road......
    
    :')
    
466.929So that's where all the damn metal wasDREGS::BLICKSTEINdbThu Mar 31 1994 13:566
    > returning metal to robinson road......
    
    I was wondering who took all my metal.
    
    	Dave Blickstein
    	Robinson Road Resident
466.930BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Thu Mar 31 1994 14:327
    
    	Geez, Dave, that reads like one of those "mail cards" in the
    	"Payday" board game.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
466.931KDX200::ROBRIts !I who am crazy, Its I who am mad!!Thu Mar 31 1994 17:035
    
    cute, db :')
    
    - suffering at home with sore throat and ultima viii
    
466.932GOES11::HOUSEAren't you glad I asked?Tue Jun 14 1994 16:3182
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ertrinid@aludra.usc.edu (Elson R. Trinidad) writes:

>Hey folks, it's time for a fun thread! :)


>Seriously, I'm just curious, how many of you here are in bands?
>I'd like to know basically:


>1) The name of the band

	Blue Steel.

>2) Where you're based in

	Massachusetts.

>3) Band personnel (instruments played, names optional)

	Peter Cook - drums
	Mike Duponte - vocals
	John O'Connor - guitar
	Kevin MacKinnon - guitar
	Ken Parker - bass guitar.

>4) The style of music

	Blue, metal, rock and roll, acoustic stuff. You name it.

>5) Band goals + career status (Are you looking for a record deal? Do you 
>   already have a deal? Do you do this just for the fun of it? Etc)

	I'm looking for world wide distribution for my label. Also looking
	for a major deal (preferable).

>6) Any songs (original or cover) you're proud of?

	Three songs I've written. Raining Blood, Slave to Insanity, and The
	Marne (c) 1994 by PRC Music. 

>7) Anything else you'd like to mention - band plugs (album releases,
>   upcoming gigs, appearances are allowed here if you wish).

	The album will be released in the fall. It will be entitled "Who's
	There". We will be playing Saturday June 25th at American Lobster
	in Marlborough Massachusetts.


>              			-- 30 --

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>E l s o n  T r i n i d a d                _______________________________
>etrinida@scf.usc.edu                    /_____________        /
>University of Southern California      /_____________        /
>Los Angeles, California               
>                                             
>   Tired of living in a dysfunctional, dyslexic, politically-correct, anal-
>   retentive, lactose-intolerant, male-pattern balding, infomercial-watching,
>    hormonally-imbalanced, insecure, alternative, disillusioned, apathetic, 
>chronically-obese, superficial, hate-mongering, post-traumatic stressed world.
>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>   

-- 
Peter R. Cook       | Home of Black Dragon Management, PRC Music (BMI), & 
prc@world.std.com   | Schizomorgothica Records. Also home to Blue Steel, 
Marlborough, MA USA | providing acoustic, blues, and metal original music.
Up the Irons!!      | Inquire within for information about the above services.


466.933KDX200::ROBRDust fills my eyes...Tue Jun 14 1994 16:485
    
    (c) PRC Music?  Wonder if he can take tax writeoffs with that
    company...
    
    
466.934METALX::SWANSONRide The LightningTue Jun 14 1994 18:495
>  From: prc@world.std.com (Peter R Cook)
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Time to update the EX-DECCIE list again!!  :')
    
466.935like, I'm there manFRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaTue Jun 14 1994 19:261
    
466.936POWDML::BUCKLEYWed Jun 15 1994 11:097
>>  From: prc@world.std.com (Peter R Cook)
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
  >  Time to update the EX-DECCIE list again!!  :')
    
    
    Why bother?!
466.937"That name rings the bell..."HOTLNE::LUCHTWed Jun 15 1994 14:0510
         I met this Peter Cook at a party a while back.  I
    heard him talking up a storm about the drums.  I remember
    seeing this band "Mystic Powers" at Rhythms in Clinton, 
    Mass.  some time ago as well.  I remember only staying
    for about 3 songs as the tunes were completely lame.
    Anyone remember that singer?!? Aaaaugh!  What's the
    word on his new band?
    
    Kev --
    
466.938GOES11::HOUSEAren't you glad I asked?Wed Jun 15 1994 14:073
>        Anyone remember that singer?!? Aaaaugh! 
    
    Would that be Seasoned Veteran Keith Poulin?
466.939"Holy smokes !!"HOTLNE::LUCHTWed Jun 15 1994 14:236
         YES !!!! That's the one.  The sound I made in my
    bathroom after downing a few cans of Bud last night
    held a remarkable resemblance to that voice.
    
    Kev
    
466.940ICS::WHITMANWed Jun 15 1994 14:273
    
    
    Bwhahahaha!!! 
466.942SPHINCTER BOY!FRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaWed Jun 15 1994 15:141
    
466.943KDX200::ROBRDust fills my eyes...Wed Jun 15 1994 15:454
    
    oh man!!!   hahahaha!!!!!!!
    
    
466.945Cystic Bowels(tm)POWDML::BUCKLEYWed Jun 15 1994 17:564
    -1
    
    Leave it to a 'seasoned vetern' to plagarize lame rock cliches.
    ;')                                              
466.946GOES11::HOUSEAren't you glad I asked?Wed Jun 15 1994 18:192
    Yeah, that was probably pretty fresh when Ted Nugent used it on his
    live album, like about 1974.
466.947"Ralph's: is the Harley stil hanging?"HOTLNE::LUCHTThu Jun 16 1994 13:476
         Coupled with a ring on each finger ranging from
    skulls and bones to the overdone inverted cross gag.
    
    What an image, what a singer !!
    
    
466.948BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Mon Jun 20 1994 19:134
    
    	The band was OK, but I also wasn't impressed with his voice.
    
    							GTI
466.949POWDML::BUCKLEYVenimus, Vidimus, CoastimusTue Jul 12 1994 15:162
    Cookster returns on Monday -- quick, everyone delete all the nasty
    notes!  ;')
466.950KDX200::ROBRDust fills my eyes...Tue Jul 12 1994 15:553
    
    no way man!
    
466.951ICS::WHITMANTue Jul 12 1994 18:263
    
    
    ;')
466.952BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Wed Jul 13 1994 10:4112
    
    	Impossible ... we probably wouldn't be done deleting by Monday.
    
    	Heck, you'd have to do a search on prc, pete, cook, mystic,
    	and maybe others, and then reduce that down to a list of note
    	numbers, then write the whole mess into a .COM file that comes
    	in here and deletes everything.
    	
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    
466.953KDX200::COOPERRevolution calling!Wed Jul 13 1994 15:283
    Where there is a will...
    
    :-)
466.954AcK!PUSHME::SYSTEMBack in the saddle again!Mon Jul 18 1994 14:3323
    
    Haven't had a chance to read all the replies here.
    
    re: a few back
    
    Keith had a one octave range 8-)
    
    He's not in a band right now. Yes, the songs were pretty lame. 8-)
    
    Steve (Mr. ego) Garry was in Wild Vein but they are temporarily out of
    action and Steve is still looking for a band after the MP break up.
    
    John Lally is working down the Cape right now and jamming at open mic
    nights. He doesn't have time for a band right now I guess.
    
    I started Blue Steel after MP broke up. Went through a bunch of
    personnel changes to get to where we are now. I got away from the
    metal a little, but I still squeeze some metal originals in including
    a remake of Slave to Insanity.
    
    It's nice to have fun again, because I certainly wasn't in MP.
    
    
466.955Relax, don't worry, have a homebrew...HOTLNE::LUCHTMon Jul 18 1994 14:498
    
         "Mr. Ego", that's funny.  In talking to Steve a 
    couple weeks ago, he openly admitted that he "was hard
    person to work with."
    
    Good show,
    Kev --
    
466.956PUSHME::SYSTEMBack in the saddle again!Mon Jul 18 1994 14:517
                                       
    hey Buck! Where'd ya get those lyrics? I trashed those songs a LONG
    time ago (except for Time to Die)
    Too bad I missed all the flames. I admit I deserved them all. Things
    have changed.
    
    
466.957PUSHME::SYSTEMBack in the saddle again!Mon Jul 18 1994 14:587
    re .955
    
    Yeah he is hard to work with but he's a very good bass player.
    Me and him have basicly parted ways. He kicked everyone out of
    MP except for Lally, and he trashed him too eventually.
    
    
466.958HOTLNE::LUCHTMon Jul 18 1994 15:277
    
    Wow! That's rough.  He is a decent player with some
    NASTY equipment (a couple Marshall stacks last time
    I checked!!)  
    
    Kev --
    
466.959PUSHME::SYSTEMBack in the saddle again!Mon Jul 18 1994 15:3514
    
    Yep, sold his Harley for the first stack. He's got a new BC Rich
    bass now too (I think that makes 5 or so).
    
    We don't even talk anymore (basicly because I didn't invite him to
    my wedding last Saturday, which is a VERY long story).
    
    To make a long story short, I had bought Tracy's engagement ring 
    and he blew my surprise by telling her about it before I even gave
    it to her. Needless to say I was mad, still am, and he hasn't apologized 
    for it.
    
    Last I knew he was talking about doing Death Metal.
    
466.960One more BC to go..HOTLNE::LUCHTMon Jul 18 1994 16:0815
    
    On your wedding:  congrats!!!  On S.G.:  yeah, he wants
    to play THE heaviest metal out there as well as that
    scope which does not yet exist.  But there's nothing
    wrong with that, right?
    
    John O., called me up around 10:00 a.m. Saturday after your
    "Rhythms" gig.  He was all excited as he should be, you
    guys sounded all right.  I'll be seeing him this upcoming
    Friday for a resumed installment in his lessons.  Perhaps
    I'll get him going on some moveable diminished runs...
    
    Until tomorrow,
    Kev --
    
466.961PUSHME::SYSTEMBack in the saddle again!Mon Jul 18 1994 16:1415
    
    Thanks! John certainly has come a long way with his guitar
    playing.
    
    We've got another show there on Friday the 29th of July.
    We're adding another original plus Heavy Metal (Sammy Hagar),
    possibly the Rover by Zeppelin, and some new song off the radio
    who's names escapes me at the moment, Shine or something like
    that. I don't listen to FM radio anymore so I don't know who
    does it.
    
    
    
    
    
466.962I vote for resolution #1POWDML::BUCKLEYVenimus, Vidimus, CoastimusMon Jul 18 1994 16:2620
    Whos this John O dood -- the natural Paul or the Blue Strat guy??
    
    
    You know Pete, I like your new band.  I like everything about it,
    sans one aspect -- the guitarist with the Ampeg/Les Paul.  He was
    TOO LOUD the other night, drowned out everyone (vocals, drums, other
    guitar), and generally threw off the balance of the entire band.
    Really made for a sucky sound.  Also, I don't really like his style of
    playing, it seems "forced".  The Blue Strat guy has a much more
    'natural' feel of the instrument, and I liked his sound and style tons
    more.
    
    Buck's recommendation for success:
    
    1) can the clown with the Paul and go 4-piece
    2) find a new guitarist who can play, has a good sound, and knows how
       to play in an ENSEMBLE!
    
    
    
466.963PUSHME::SYSTEMBack in the saddle again!Mon Jul 18 1994 16:3544
          
    
> Whos this John O dood -- the natural Paul or the Blue Strat guy??
    
  	The guy who played the Blue strat.
      
> You know Pete, I like your new band.  I like everything about it,
> sans one aspect -- the guitarist with the Ampeg/Les Paul.
    
    Thanks! That means alot to me!
    
> He was TOO LOUD the other night, drowned out everyone (vocals, drums, other
> guitar), and generally threw off the balance of the entire band.
   
    Really? Usually he's not loud enough!!
    
> Really made for a sucky sound.  Also, I don't really like his style of
> playing, it seems "forced".
    
    I never noticed that, I'll have to listen/look for that the next time
    we practice.
    
> The Blue Strat guy has a much more
> 'natural' feel of the instrument, and I liked his sound and style tons
> more.
  
    	Interesting! I always liked both their playing. The one thing
    	John is notorious for is making mistakes, which he didn't do
    	that night. Kevin (the Les Paul dood) hardly ever does. It's
    	nice to get an unbiased opinion!
          
>    1) can the clown with the Paul and go 4-piece
>    2) find a new guitarist who can play, has a good sound, and knows how
>       to play in an ENSEMBLE!
  
 	I'd vote for it, but the other guys definitely wouldn't do it.   
    	I'll have to work with him on this, I guess.
    
    	How'd you like the vocals? Mike is ALOT better than Keith was. 8-)
    
    	And, MAN, has your sister changed! I didn't even recognize her
        at first!
    
    
466.964POWDML::BUCKLEYVenimus, Vidimus, CoastimusMon Jul 18 1994 16:381
    If the other guys won't go for 1 or 2, tell him to TURN THE F DOWN!
466.965PUSHME::SYSTEMBack in the saddle again!Mon Jul 18 1994 16:417
    
    Will do! We need reviews like this so we can achieve a good stage
    sound.
    
    BTW, what do you think of those new Ampegs anyway? I'm kind of
    mixed on them (I still prefer the Laney sound).
          
466.966POWDML::BUCKLEYVenimus, Vidimus, CoastimusMon Jul 18 1994 16:4916
    The amp sounded ok, you can tell it's a good amp, but it needs to be
    balanced (volume-wise and EQ-wise) with the rest of the band.  This
    is that concept of "emsemble playing" I was referring to (which this
    guy obviously lacks a concept of).
    
    Moreso, I like the mix of tunes you're doing and styles.  I liked the
    more "party mix" of stuff you did that got everyone psyched and rockin.
    Not so hot on the real thrashy stuff still, but that was my gripe with
    MP anyways.  I'd stick with the STP/Zep/Crowes mix for maximum effect.
    
    You doods may wanna work some backing vocals into your tunes as well.
    I mean, you had that dude get up there for Patience, then he proceeded
    to sing UNISON with Mike ?!?  I felt like walking up and pushing him
    aside and singing the damn harmony line myself!  8^)
    
    
466.967PUSHME::SYSTEMBack in the saddle again!Mon Jul 18 1994 16:5510
    
    Rick is the singer from Wild Vein. He's an up and coming Steve G.
    if you know what I mean. 8-)
    
    They're cool guys. The Lynyrd Skynyrd tune was totally improvised.
    The guy singing that is their guitar player. 
    
    Believe it or not I'm happy with the tune selection too. I guess
    I'm mellowing out. I still love SOD, but I don't want to play just
    that type of stuff anymore. 
466.968GOOEY::JUDYTrip the firelightMon Jul 18 1994 17:3215
    
    
    	Pete,
    
    	Just for the record, if the song is "Shine", the band
    	is Collective Soul.
    
    	And I really liked your band.  Best one I've seen you in
    	thus far.  Twas a good time!
    
    	I just about floored Tigg when I told her what 'old timers'
    	ended up being there...
    
    	JJ
    
466.969MIMS::ROBINSON_BMay turn violent at any timeMon Jul 18 1994 18:049
    
    
      A Mystic SNARF!
    
    
    
    
    
                                                *B*
466.970GOES11::HOUSEHow could I have been so blind?Mon Jul 18 1994 18:373
    Hey Pete, congrats on your wedding and welcome back.
    
    Greg
466.971"Take me on out of this town..."DREGS::BLICKSTEINLight to dark, dark to lightMon Jul 18 1994 19:0614
    YOu got my attention when you played that Blackfoot tune, "Train,
    Train".
    
    I never in my life ever expected to hear any band cover a Blackfoot
    tune and it MADE MY NIGHT!
    
    It's funny coz I heard the harmonica intro and thought, "that sounds
    familiar" and my first thought was that it was "Whammer Jammer" but
    then I knew it wasn't but couldn't quite place it even though I know
    that tune inside and out.
    
    Of course, once the band kicked in, I knew immediately (yes, that was
    me screaming, with some help from Alan who also is a big Blackfoot
    fan).
466.972PUSHME::SYSTEMBack in the saddle again!Mon Jul 18 1994 19:242
    
    Thanks everyone!
466.973Sorry about the broken beer...HOTLNE::LUCHTTue Jul 19 1994 11:097
    
    Buck:  "Can the clown and go 4-piece"
    
    I love it...
    
    Kev -
    
466.974BABAGI::COOKThe Cookster...237-2638Thu Sep 08 1994 14:027
    
    
    Just re-reading this entire note. That thing at Jillians was cancelled.
    Get this...because of Marky Mark doing some promo thing at the last
    minute. Steve was pissed!
    
    
466.975BABAGI::COOKThe Cookster...237-2638Thu Sep 08 1994 14:0629
    
> Note 466.729 by CAVLRY::BUCK 
    
    
    >Pete's past bands TRIVIA:
    
    >Gee,  that's a tough one, but I'll give it a shot:
    
    >* Golgotha
    >* Gorehounds
    >* Chain Reaction
    >* Nevermore
    >* Namesake
    >* Mystic Powers
    
    
    	Actually it goes like this:
    
    	Hudson High School Marching Band 8-)
    	Dreadful Mourning
    	The Bugs from Hell  (I'm surprised you forgot this one Buck!)
        The Gorehounds
    	Golgotha
    	Chain Reaction
    	Nevermore (which later became Namesake)
    	Mystic Powers
    	...and now Blue Steel.
    
    	
466.976BABAGI::COOKThe Cookster...237-2638Thu Sep 08 1994 14:086
    
    re: .760
    
    Thank you Shawn, but I really wish you would have left them there!
    
    -prc, a bit late...
466.977BABAGI::COOKThe Cookster...237-2638Thu Sep 08 1994 14:1514
    
    Interesting reading. I'll say one thing for Mystic Powers. We tried
    and we were proud of what we did. Steve ran the band, so I could care
    less about all this, I just thought I'd mention this, as if it matters 
    anymore.
    
    Whether we were good or bad, old or new, stuck up or shy, it all
    doesn't matter. What matters is we kicked some ass, had some fun,
    and played what we liked to play. 
    
    I would also like to mention that the band received an incredible
    review in New England Performer. We were extremely proud of that.
    
    Anyway, on with life.
466.978LEGENDARY!POWDML::BUCKLEYwhy do we have to fall from grace?Fri Sep 30 1994 17:101
    
466.979STILL LEGENDARY!POWDML::BUCKLEYYou ain't seen nuthin yetWed Jun 28 1995 17:151
    
466.980HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meWed Jun 28 1995 18:343
 .4 is still one of my favorite notes in this conference.

Tim
466.981any demos around?SUBSYS::MSOUCYFri Sep 08 1995 14:285
    
    Where can someone get a copy of their demo to check em out? Just
    wondering is all. Whatever happened to them anyways?
    
    
466.982alter personalityEDWIN::HOOKERFri Sep 08 1995 14:455
    Well from what people tell me, the seasoned veteran /prc and
    myself may be the same person.
    
    Shane, who doesn't suffer from multiple personalities...yes you do...
    no I don't...stop talking to yourself...I'm not you are !!
466.983GOOEY::JUDYThat's *Ms. Bitch* to you!Fri Sep 08 1995 15:268
    
    
    	Mystic Powers  (aka Mystic Flowers, aka Cystic Bowels etc) is
    	no longer.
    
    	Pete Cook, who was the drummer, is now in a band called
    	Blue Steel.
    
466.984HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meFri Sep 08 1995 15:401
I can send you my demo.  I think I'm done with it...
466.985sounds good to meSUBSYS::MSOUCYFri Sep 08 1995 16:347
    
    Sure, interoffice to SHR3-2/W8 to Mike Soucy. Thanks in advance if ya
    do send it this way! I'll give it a listen to see how they sounded,
    maybe a friend may recognize them....
    
    Mike
    
466.986POWDML::BUCKLEYI'm full just looking at it!Fri Sep 08 1995 16:402
    I have a copy of the MP I think I'd be willing to part with ...
    anyone?
466.987Just don't ask for my ConTaGioUs CD!METALX::SWANSONRide The LightningFri Sep 08 1995 17:116
    You can have mine too Mike!
    
    Who else can send Mike a copy of the Mystic powers Demo?
    
    :')
    
466.988Un_Conventional MoshWMOIS::MAZURKASon_of_A_Wicked_Good_TimeFri Sep 08 1995 17:304
    I Gave mine away A_Few Months ago.
    I enjoyed it fer A_While...
    
       Crazy_But_Not_Too_Long_Al
466.989BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Fri Sep 08 1995 17:333
    
    	I'm going to wait until mine's worth $50 and then I'll sell it.
    
466.990METALX::SWANSONRide The LightningFri Sep 08 1995 18:032
466.991My MP demo is being usedDREGS::BLICKSTEINMy other piano is a SteinwayFri Sep 08 1995 18:102
    Sorry, can't give you mine.   If I did, food might start sliding off
    the table onto the carpet.
466.992Press release revisitedPOWDML::BUCKLEYI'm full just looking at it!Fri Sep 08 1995 20:0161
466.993MPGS::MARKEYLook at the BONES!Fri Sep 08 1995 20:206
    
    re: -1
    
    BWHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!
    
    -b
466.994WMOIS::MAZURKASon_of_A_Wicked_Good_TimeSun Sep 10 1995 10:443
    **OuCh**
    
      Beware The In_Laws!!
466.995DREGS::BLICKSTEINMy other piano is a SteinwayMon Sep 11 1995 13:202
    Yes, now comes the wave of "Mystic Powers" wanna-be's like Kansas,
    etc.
466.996HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meMon Sep 11 1995 14:022
A Legendary reply Buck!
466.997tit for tatPOWDML::BUCKLEYI'm full just looking at it!Mon Sep 11 1995 22:343
    A Legendary topic, Tim!
    
    ;') 
466.998STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Sep 21 1995 03:373
    
    ...Almost there...
    
466.999ySTRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Sep 21 1995 03:383
    
    ...A-l-m-o-s-t...
    
466.1000yeess yeess yessss !!!EDWIN::HOOKERThu Sep 21 1995 11:046
    {spooge}
    
    ahhh....
    
    was it as good for you as it was for me ?
    
466.1001BRAT::JENNISONListen To The Wind BlowThu Sep 21 1995 11:441
    AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
466.1002exit Stage Left !!!STRATA::LAMOTHECrusin' in the '57 chevyThu Sep 21 1995 13:286
    
     I'm Kev....It felt like my 1st Promotion here at DIGITAL !!!  Thanks
    for the Memory.  
    
    Sax_who_just_needed_it_Even_if_it's SEconds
    
466.1003DABEAN::REAUMEvintage rackerFri Sep 29 1995 10:596
    
    
    
       ............legendary!
    
    
466.1004SCASS1::BARBER_Anod nod bang flip twirl twirlWed Apr 24 1996 22:105
    .992 too funny.
    
    I can't believe I wrote .360.  I liked the tape but it wasn't all THAT. 
    
    What the hell was I on?
466.1006SCASS1::BARBER_Anod nod bang flip twirl twirlThu Apr 25 1996 13:561
    8P
466.1007I really tried to like them...HOZHED::FENNELLAisle or window seat?Thu Apr 25 1996 15:543
I remember reading that review and wondering how come I didn't couldn't get as
enthused as you did...

466.1008recycle old notes! 8)POWDML::BUCKLEYValkyrie: The Joy of SixFri Aug 02 1996 17:186
        <<< Note 466.4 by CAVLRY::ROBR "Every breath a static charge" >>>

    
    What happened to seasoned veteran Keith Poulin?  :')