Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    
    Well, I was gonna put this in the Misc Metal Meadderings note and
    save my opinions from messing up the OFFICIAL Anthrax note, but
    someone deleted it!!
    
    So, I think Anthrax/SOD are a bunch of losers! I don't see any
    redeemingqualities about them...they just stink. I think as far
    as that genre goes, megadeth and metallica have it over the clown
    bands like SOD, Slayer, et al...
    
    
    Bunch o crap
    
    wjb

    uh-oh, watch out Buck!
    
    I think I see Pete over there putting a spark to that blowtorch...
    
    8^)  8^)  8^)  8^)  8^)  8^)
    
    cat                         
    

        Ahem ... wjb, people ARE entitled to opinions as to who's
        good and who's not.
    
        Saying someone 'stinks' isn't fair, seeing how taste is not
        the same for everyone.
    
        Saying you don't care for them, and stating why, is an accept-
        able alternative.
    
                                                         Shawn GTI
                                                          Co-mod

    
    Well...
    	all's I know is that EVERY METAL fan of bands like Metallica,
    that I have ever talked to (and I mean these people are fanatics)
    seem to revere S.O.D. as the ultimate. I mahself don't know, and
    WAS gonna buy a S.O.D. tape. Sooo, to save me the 8 bucks, Buck,
    why don't ya tell me why they suck so bad, so I'll know better.
    And Pete, why don't you tell me why they're good, and I'll check
    'em out.
    
    thanks!/Motorbreath...I need an oil change

    Geeeezziz!!! I read reply #2, I write what I think is #3 only
    to put it in as #5!!!! Smoking topic or what!?
    
    Well, Buck, you can still tell me why they suck.
    I've got an Anthrax tape Pete, and you can't be serious about
    Hetfield's voice. As for the rest of the band, that's one thing
    I'd have to check closer on, but Hetfield's voice is a sh**load
    better than Anthrax' singer. Although one guy in Anthrax can 
    really roar, I don't know who he is.
    
    /Motorbreath...popped Ride the Lightning in the deck at the Monsters
    parking lot, and watched the hair fly

    
    
    I like both bands but after trying to learn Mettalica and trying
    to learn some anthrax it's clear that the music of Metallica is
    much harder to play than Anthrax.Because Mettalica is more of
    a knowledgeble(sp?)band as far as music goes.
     Also my guitar instructor knows Anthrax and he said they were 
    made up of people who got kicked out of other bands becuase musically
    they stink.
    
    			P.S. thats just what I heard 
    
    					M
    					 B
    

    
    Re: .3 GTI
    
    > Ahem ... wjb, people ARE entitled to opinions
    
    I know that, that's one of the main things that keeps this conference
    alive!
    
    > Saying someone 'stinks' isn't fair, seeing how taste is not the
    > same for everyone.
    
    > Saying you don't care for them, and stating why, is an acceptable
    > alternative.
    
    Oh, double standards here Mod's???  Pete can just come out and say
    "They ROOL" & "They're the BEST" and that's fine without stating
    the hows or whys.  I thought i made myself clear in .1 why I didn't
    care for them.
    
    Re: .4
    
    >    No way.  They rule. They have more energy than Metallica, they have
    >more creativity then metallica, they have more talent than metallica,
    >they write better lyrics than metallica, charlie is a better drummer
    >than Lars is, Anthrax's singer is MUCH better than Hetfield. I could
    >go on forever.
  
    Oh please, this is SO shallow!!!!!!
    
    I mean, So, maybe Charlie is a better drummer than Lars, but I guess
    you'd first have to define what `better' is. (Better at what, time
    keeping, fills, speed, solos, double bass??) Let us not forget that
    `better' as a definition can be more subjective musical taste itself.
    And, for the record, if we *did* define what `Better' was, and maybe
    we did decide that Anthrax' singer was `better' than Hetfield, a
    band (In my eyes) is the SUM of its parts and not defined by its
    individual members.  A forinstance: Yngwie is a technically great
    guitarist, Billy Duffy has a hard time playing a blues scale cleanly,
    Yngwie's drummer is flashy, The Cult's drummer is not, but DEAD
    on with his timing, The Cult has songs with Grooves, Yngwie's songs
    don't have grooves, they are just vehicles for his soloing. IMO,
    Rising Force doesn't touch the Cult as a BAND, or AC/DC for that
    matter...in fact, AC/DC is a great example....a basic band with
    lousy players, but put them together and they are the best band
    at what they do.
    
    Also, I think a BAND goes beyond technical ability...how's their
    stage presence?  How's their marketing?  Queensryche is a great
    band on record, but they are dull live. I saw Anthrax and got the
    same impression...a bunch a guys with lousy stage presence `going
    thru the moves'. And, I didn't think their singer was great at all.
    In fact, I couldn't figure out why they have that guitarist in the
    band (one who stads on the right)...he was embarrassing!
    
    There, have I made myself clear?
    
    Buck 

    
    Re: .8
    
    I believe it.
    
    I also agree Metallica's music has more overall thought put into
    it. It also seems to be to be a bit more `authentic', but again
    that's just my opinion.
    
    Re: .9
    
    Yo, where's your facts at?  Kirk Hammett never went to Berklee!
    He took lessons from Joe Satriani, but Joe never went to Berklee 
    either.
    
    Anthrax = mega-moshing-mush!

    re: JC...
    	hey, at least you're not one of those musicians that hates anything
    that's popular.
    
    	As for the Anthrax/Metallica debate that's been opened here...
    I like the thrash I've heard, I like it a lot, it's different,
    and it has a lot of energy, but isn't s*it like most punk music
    I've heard. I haven't heard MUCH thrash, but I like what I've heard.
    	I don't think Metallica comfortably fits in the "hardcore",
    "thrash" genre. They feel no obligation to make every song 
    1000 mph, and they don't. I also like EVERYTHING they've done,
    and I can't say that for many bands.
    	Maybe Anthrax fits better into the hardcore category. Maybe
    that's why SOME people regard Metallica's stuff as "commercialized
    pop metal" as opposed to Anthrax.
    
    /Motorbreath...just a thought
    

    
    
    One can't talk about Anthrax and S.O.D. as if they are one.  They are
two very different entities.  S.O.D. was a fun project that some friends got
together to do.  Anthrax, is where Scott's and Charlie's interests as band
members lie.  I felt this needed to be mentioned because some of the way
previous notes were written seemed to imply they were almost the same band.    
                                                             
    Re .1:
    A redeeming quality .... they're anti-drug. 
    
    About Joey's voice and James' voice .... I think each one is good.  Just
different styles that work well with their respective music.
    
    Re .8:
    As far as I know, the only guy that was in another band previous to being 
in Anthrax, was Joey.  They may have been in other bands in high school but
Anthrax is the first "name" band for the rest.  I can check on this to be sure.
                                                                         
    Re .10:
    Stage presence.  IMO, Anthrax blows away most other metal bands on stage,
including those who use tons of effects.  (The only reason I say most is
because I haven't seen "all" the other metal bands.)  Bands like Metallica and
Megadeth (I'll use these bands because they are usually grouped in the same
style as Anthrax), usually only headbang, which is cool (better than posing!!),
while the guys in Anthrax are running around having a ball, which in turn,
gets the crowd into having more fun.  Ever see Anthrax switch instruments and
play a cover tune like "Living After Midnite"?  Not too many bands do this.
Damn, does that get the crowd going!  I will always give more respect to a
band for relying on adrenalin than smoke, flashpots, and other tricks.  Those
things are cool, but if you can get a crowd going without them, you're doing
something right with your stage show.    
     
    Now for some of my own thoughts ....
                                    
    I like Anthrax. I like their lyrics and the thoughts and attitudes that
the lyrics bring out (especially on the "Among the Living" LP).  I think their
overall musical sound is excellent.  I think their energy on stage makes for
a great show.  I like the idea that they don't rely on too many gimmicks to
make a good show.   
    I like Metallica and Megadeth (pretty much same reasons why I like Anthrax).
    I like S.O.D.  They were a riot!
    I also like some non-speed metal.
    I like hardcore.
    I guess I'm a likable guy??!!
    
    Arguing over one band being sh*tty is silly, discussing it is better.
    I hope I've done that.
    
    Paul
                          

                I don't  think  you  can  really  compare the two
                bands.  I love them both, but their styles are so
                much different.  Anthrax  is  more  of a fun band
                (ie lots of mosh music),  but I find Metallica to
                be  more  talented  and versatile in  their  song
                writing.    More  melodic and a great  deal  more
                theory used (at least in Puppets and Lightening).
                The Garage album has to go though.
                
                I  love  them  both, but one can't substitute for
                the  other.    I have different moods when I will
                listen to one or the other.
                
                

    Hey isn't S.O.D. some members from Anthrax...........
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                      My_opinion_is_only_myself_but_I_cant_stand_them!!
    
                           I love Metal Church..Metalica..............
                                 They Dont Compair....
                           I am Still Trying to figure out if S.O.D.
                           has a chorus in any of their songs...
    
                                           -only_a_voice-
                                                     Jim..Tama

    The only thing I have ever heard (that I know of) by Anthrax is
    "I'm The Man", and that was on emptyV.  I'm sure this is a poor
    representation of what the band actually does, but that was the
    biggest sell-out and blatant display of HM wimpiness I have ever seen.  
    HM rap ???  Get real.  There are a few brief moments in that song that
    almost get moving and then it's back to Beastie Boy clones. They
    may be great (which I doubt) but my first impression of them was
    enough.  Anthrax = Gong Show Feedstock.
    
    
    					Mr Scary II
    
    
    				

    
    If you don't want the `crud' here, then don't delete the soapbox
    note!
    

    OK, I changed my mind.  Anthrax is EVERYTHING a metal band should
    be.  Brilliant lyrics, lush harmonies, blazing guitar work, a
    professional attitude equalled by NONE.  Anthrax ROOLS.  Anthrax
    is the greatest thing since indoor plumbing.  Anthrax is better
    than sex with half the mess.  I have cheated myself for so long
    by not listening to them, I feel like such a fool.  My life is a
    waste, I should end it all right now.  Forgive me.  
    
    					Mr Scary II

      re: .22
    
            made_a_beleiver_out_of_me_GOODBY_CRUEL_WORLD!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
                              -"BANG"-
    
                                    THE DESIESTED Jim...Tama

    
    Re .24:
    
    Yup, it's called "Fistful of Metal" and Neil Turbin was handling the
vocals back then.
    They also have a few EP's previous to "Spreading..".  
    One I can think of is "Armed and Dangerous".
    
    Paul

    I thought Anthrax was a disease that cows got !?!
    
    :^)

    Hmmm.... I wonder if the usre is to listen to extremely heavy metal,
    for extended periods of time ????
    
    It always fixes my what_ails_yas...
    jc
    

    
    I thought it was a disease affecting Sheep and not Cows?!?
   

    
    
    From what I have heard and seen(old cowboy movies)Anthrax is hoof
    and gum disease in cows and horses but it is a very rare disease
    now.
    
    				M
    				 B
    

    
    Gawd Pete,
    
    you know, everything you've said in .32 is right!
    
    Geeesh, I just don't know what could've come over me?!?
    
    Thanks for setting me straight!
    
    Buck

    
    	   Please, do let's remember that we, the moderators of
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    	our own inflated egos).  If you disagree with our policies,
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    	-=[MOSAT]=-
    	(this message paid for by the committee to make my life easier)

    
    RE: 34
    
    
    can you smell somthing around here guys ???

    Hey Tony,
    	At least you don't have to worry about stepping in it over there!
    
    
    					Mr Scary II

    Is Anthrax the band that has the song where they keep calling someone
    a F***'n Idiot or is that another band?
    
    Chris D.
    

    
    What about in `I'm the man'
    
    "Joey f_____ it up"
    
    Thats it innit ???
    
    -Tony

   I like that tune!!! But I don't think that's it...izzitt?
    
    -renee>

    
    You probably mean the song that Pete mentioned, "N.F.L. (Efilnickufesin)".
I'm sure you can all figure out how they got efilnickufesin .... nice f****n
life backwards, with a spelling error.  
    
    The song is about John Belushi and how he screwed himself up due to
substance abuse.
    
    "You couldn't see your own dependencies
     N.F.L.  ....  nice f****n life."
        
    
    Paul
                                    

    
    	I wish I had been around at the beginning of this topic, I love
    a good slanging match now and again.  When it comes to Thrash 
    		I'M THE MAN!!.
    
    	Yo Cookie!! Sorry for not being able to stick up for you, I'll
    take my holidays later in the year next time.
    	Anthrax are totally different from Metallica musically so no
    real comparison can be made fairly.  S.O.D./M.O.D. are just fun
    bands and anyone who thinks of them as serious metal must have their
    box examined, preferably with an axe.  And as for Mr. Buckley saying
    that Slayer as a clown band, I won't go into that here but I do
    think Slayer are demi-gods, 'nuff said.
    
    	Back to the topic, YO ANTHRAX.  These guys are nuts on stage,
    '87 Castle Donnington, England they totally blew away everybody
    else (ie. Metallica, Bon Jockstrap, Wasp, Cinderella).
    
    Discography - I think it's complete
    
    	Fistful of Metal
    	Armed and Dangerous
    	Spreading the Disease
    	Madhouse 12"
    	I am the Law
    	Among the Living
    	I'm the Man
    	Indians
    	+ various bootlegs
    	S.O.D.-Speak English or Die
    
    The new LP should be MegaMoshing great, they also have TWO videos
    to release, one is a home vid dunno about the other.
    
    I'll say more later, my boss is on his way round
    
    Keep on Moshin'
    			MoshDuck.

    
>   Back to the topic, YO ANTHRAX.  These guys are nuts on stage,
>   '87 Castle Donnington, England they totally blew away everybody
>   else (ie. Metallica, Bon Jockstrap, Wasp, Cinderella).
    
    yeah ?? well I was there too and they sucked.  I'm no hard core
    Jovi fan but Bon Jovi even blew 'em away!!! 
                                               
    Obviously Dio stole the entire show.       
                                               
    Anthrax ?? - F.O.A.D                       
                                               
    -Tony                                      

    
    	   My own impression of Anthrax is that they are a bunch
    	of punk kids who wish they had some talent, and are trying
    	to prove that they do.  I haven't bothered to listen closely
    	to their lyrics yet, so their songs have yet to stir me on
    	that level even.
    
    	   So, sorry all you Anthrax lovers out there, but...
    
    	-=[MOSAT]=- sez, Anthrax needs to grow up
    

    
    Re .45:
    
      Chill, homes.
                 
    
    Paul
    

    
    
    	If those of you who have slagged off Anthrax wish to bury the
    hatchet I'd love to hear your apologies as I haven't had a good
    laugh in ages.  I thought that we were supposed to be serious about
    our metal here and respect other peoples opinions.
    
    Ducks_have_emotions_too
    
    		MoshDuck.

    OK, I'll be the first.  Last week I gave my son his allowance and
    he wanted to go buy an Anthrax tape.  So I thought about it, Anthrax
    vs. Drugs, Occult Literature, Xxx Xxxxx .... I guess it wasn't to
    bad.  So we go get the tape and listen to it on the way home, Fist
    Of Steel I think was the name.  I was surprised, no "I'm The Man"
    crap here.  I actually found myself "partially" bangin' my head
    at the stoplights, and I got thinking, "Boy wouldn't the die hards
    in the Official Anthrax Note love to see 'ol Scary doin' this !"
    
    At that time I got hold of my senses, realized right from wrong,
    and threw the tape along with my son out of the car.  I rode around
    the block and decided, the boy is young, he knows not what he does
    and it is my responsibility to guide him AWAY from things that could
    harm him, so I went back and picked him up.  After a short explanation
    of my actions, he fully understood why I acted the way I did.  So
    we slapped some AC/DC in the deck and went to McDonalds.  Lesson
    learned .........
    
    JUST KIDDING !!!  We went to Hardee's !   No really, that particular
    tape WAS pretty good, seriously, and I listen to it every now and
    then.  My opinion of the band due to "I'm The Man" isn't very high,
    that's MY OPINION but other than that what I heard kicked, and I'll
    leave it at that !
    
    
    				Mr Scary II

    
    	Your refering to the first album Fistful of Metal, much more
    traditional than their latest Among the Living.  The thing about
    Anthrax is that they have just been getting harder as the years
    go by.  The first Anthrax album I heard was Spreading the Disease
    and then F.O.M. and I was completely freaked, at first, by the
    difference between the two.  But after a few turns on the deck it
    became one of my fav L.P.'s.
    	They are doing what they want to and if that's seen as selling
    out and being commercial then O.K.  But it was Anthrax who started
    by making a joke record, just a bit of fun, now everybody's doing
    it.
    
    In Moshing We Trust,
    			MoshDuck.

    re: .50
    
    	   Good story... I prefer Hardees to McD any day of the
    	week (but those Northerners ain't gonna know what we're
    	talking about, you know).
    
    	   You did make one critical error, however.  You went back
    	and picked the kid up after tossing him out.  This sort of
    	vascilation only makes him respect you less.  A better lesson
    	would have been learned if you had swung around again and
    	threatened to mow him down... He'd respect your decisions
    	then, by God!
    
    	- Greg

    Fine dude. Please tell me what you think their BEST album is. 
    That includes S.O.D., and M.O.D. I'm buyin' a couple albums
    today and would like to know.
    
    /Motorbreath...quickly now
    

    
    	Shame on you for not having any more Anthrax L.P.'s.  I agree
    though, to get you in the mood buy Speak English or Die and Among.
    Another must is the Armed and Dangerous E.P. It came out just before
    Spreading and is a drocernikcufesin.
    
    Do, Die And Buy,
    			MoshDuck.

    Hey Cookster !
    	You ain't gonna believe this !  I tried to get the guys to learn
    a tune off of Fistful Of Metal last night, last song of side 2 on
    the tape (heard it for the first time yesterday).  To make a long
    story short, I put the bait out there but I couldn't get a bite,
    ah bit too 'eavy I'm afraid .........
    
    
    				Mr Scary II  

    Yo Jerry, you shoulda told Pete about the New Maiden tune we picked
    up last night !  That tune kicks butt...

    jc

                
                I can't  see  how  anybody  can think Anthrax got
                heavier from album  to  album.   They are getting
                moshier (new word) not heavier.  Find me anything
                on Among the Living that  compares  to Gung-Ho or
                Armed and Dangerous.  No way.
                
                

                The album  Armed  and  Dangerous  I  haven't seen
                around lately since  the  newest  one  became  so
                popular.  It used  to  be  simple  to  find,  but
                Spreading the Disease (with Gung-Ho & Armed and
                Dangerous)  is  still relatively simple to  find.
                If you can't find it in a  normal  record  store,
                try  places that carry a lot of undergound  metal
                (ie Shrapnel  records,  etc).   Great album!!  My
                favorite 'thrax.
                
                

    
    	Where are you looking for the records??
    London - try Shades, basement, 9-12, St. Annes Ct, off of Wardour
    St.
    	I was lucky, my local indepentant record store had a sale on
    and, lo and behold, there was Armed and Dangerous.  The Madhouse
    12" is very hard to get hold of now, as well.  Two very good versions
    of God Save the Queen, one on each.  Indians 12" now unavailable
    on picture format, only plain black vinyl.  I've a quite rare 7"
    box package of I'm the Man, includes poster and stickas.  The albums
    look very good on picture disc and play well.
    
    Evilnikcufesin,
    			MoshDuck.

                
                I saw  Armed  and  Dangerous yesterday at Rainbow
                Records in Salem,  NH  (not  that  that helps you
                anyway,  you're a Marlboro  person  or  something
                like that, right?)
                
                

    PRC had mentioned in another note that Anthrax does not use
    gore/destruction lyrics in their songs.  I've currently heard very
    little of their music (just Indians and I'm the Man).  I also
    appreciate bands that don't have so much Satan/occult/death/destruction
    in their lyrics (and still have good MUSIC...).  What are most of
    Anthraxs' songs about?  
    
    This is a chance for you Anthrax fans to convince me I should give
    them a listen!  :-)
    
    gh
    

    
    Re 79,80:   Scott and Dan are taken for.   8^) 8^)

    Re 78:   N.F.L. is actually a serious anti-drug song about John Belushi.
    
                                                                            
    Paul
    
    

    
    I've read this week end, that Anthrax next album will cover a song
    called "Antisocial". It's a song from the most famous french HM
    band named TRUST. Even Bernie (lead singer) will sing in the song
    with Anthrax. TRUST reformed at this occasion and will open for
    Iron Maiden in Paris. Anthrax even recorded a french version of
    song for a only french market single. They also said they will release
    another of their song called "Les sectes".
    
    
    		Didier 

    What does "Les sectes" mean in english?
    
    gh

    
    It means "Sects". It's a good song about all those f$$$ing kind
    of things. Very engaged in the lyrics, as usual with Trust.
    
    	Didier 

    
    Saw "State of Euphoria" in Strawberries today.  They only had the
    cassette though, so I'll have to check elsewhere for the album.
    
    Their video "N.F.V" (you figure it out) should be out shortly.
    
    Got an EP Sunday at a record show that has "Make Me Laugh" (from SOE),
    "Antisocial" (also from SOE, but this is live with Bernie from Trust
    singing, as mentioned by Didier), and a fun tune (not rap) called
    "Friggin in the Riggin", which is about their road crew.
                                
    
    Paul

    
        RE: Paul
    
                 But Anthrax DOES videos.  (?)
    
                 That's like Queen doing 'Radio Ga Ga'.
    
                                                       GTI
    

    
    
    i dont believe it... we have an anthrax note??
    great...
    
    re:1  thems fighting words..
    
    re.12 i agreee!
    
    		(better keep my mouth shut)
    
    		
    	wendy o'
    

    
    Hmmmm.... Ozzy and Anthrax ?? eh...
    
    Seems as if the old man of rock has a thrash hunger, coz Metallica
    supported him at one point did they not ???

    
    	I think Metallica supported Ozzy on their Master of Puppets
    tour.
    
    Musta been an awesome show!
    
    /Motorbreath

                
                I saw  it,  Metallica  really sounded like , well
                you know . . .
                
                N.F.V.?????? Gotta love it!!
                
                

   
    Yo pete,
    
    I'm really surprised you liked either of those bands.  When I first
    met you, ya told me about how much you loved Iron Maiden.  How can
    you like Maiden so much, and tolerate what in my opinion is trash
    rock ?  Just my opinion folks, but isn't Metallica and Anthrax baby
    poop compared to the great Iron Maiden ?  Just an observation. 
    They seem like two different brands of metal to me...I just don't
    get what t so cool about music that is so fast there is no definition
    to it... Fill me in will ya ?

    jc

    RE: .97/98
    
    	JC, think of it in this light.  Lawrence Welk's group starts
    singing stuff by `The Rolling Stones' or `The Beatles', etc.....
    
    | set voice/Lawrence Welk
    
    	"And that was another bitchin' boss, done by the lovely
    	 Lemmon sisters."
    
    METALord"

    
    I have to admit something......
    
    I like the new Anthrax album !!!!!
    
    It kixx ass!!!, and I have hardy taken it out of my car stereo :-)

    
    	All's I know is that City Hall Music was besieged by calls
    for a week before Metallica's newest was to be released, and
    they had ordered a whole s***load of Metallica's AJFA.
    	Maybe they only ordered ten of the new Anthrax, Pete.  8?)
    /Motorbreath

    
    
    	The latest on a release date for the Oidivnikufesin vid is
    October 10th (That is U.K.).  Apparently its the best thrash video
    ever made, and where was it recorded???
    	Hammersmith Odeon, in good old blighty!!!
    
    The Duck.

    re: .111  "Oidivnikufesin"
               
    What does this mean?
    
    gh

    This last weekend I bought Anthraxs "Among the Living", based almost
    completely on recommendations made here.  (Thanks)
     
    I enjoy listening to it, but the edges are pretty rough. There are a
    lot of groups/albums which I like better.  They do have interesting
    (conceptually) lyrics, but some of the songs didn't seem to fit with
    the lyrics well (IMO). 
    
    The two songs I liked the best were (oh NO, brain dead syndrome
    initiates and I can't remember one of them...).  One of the two
    songs I liked best was N.F.L. 
    
    gh

    
    	Yeah, here it is, the Anthrax video!!!
    
    
    		I got it just the other day and it's brilliant!!
    Definitely the best thrash video out at the moment.
    
    More later,
    		Duckula.

    I got "Speading The Disease" and "State Of Euphoria" over the holidays
    and I must say there isn't a bad tune on either one of them.  The
    "I'm The Man" thing gave me a bad 1st impression of them but after
    seeing the vid's for "Madhouse" and "Anti-Social" I had to have
    'em.  I highly recommend them.
    
    
    				Scary

    I just saw the vid for "Anti-Social" last night and must say that
    I liked it a lot.  I haven't gotten State of Euphoria yet, and hadn't
    heard the song before.
    
    gh

    Can anyone tell me if the goofy looking guy they have for their
    logo has a name and where did they get the idea for him ?
    
    re: -1  Go buy "State Of Euphoria, & Speading The Disease".  You'll
    like 'em !!!
    
    
    				Scary 

    
    He's the Mexican "NOT" Man.  I'll try to explain what it is, but
    it's kinda weird.  It's a little face made out of rubber that has 
    holes in the back where you place your fingers.  By moving your 
    fingers around, you can make it have strange faces.  

    Scott got one a long time ago, thought it was funny, and adopted it 
    as the band's mascot.  I found one at Newbury Comics up here in
    Boston.  It's not made by any big company, as far as I know, so
    they're kinda hard to come by.
    
    
    Paul
    

    Okay, so I know I'm eating my words here, but...
    What else is new !
    
    I joined this CD club and thought maybe I'd get an Anthrax CD.
    
    The offer Spreading The Disease and Amoung The Living.
    
    Which of these should a first timer get ?  Remember, I don't like
    it too thrashy (or is that not an issue here ?)
    
    ;^)
    

    Coopie,
    
    I don;t know about you, but I have spent a lot of time/breath going
    around saying how lousy Anthrax/Thrash music is (IMO)
    
    My little brother (with his killer stereo, where do 16 yesr olds
    get that kind of cash?) always has Anthrax blasting.  I hate to
    say it but the new album (his most frequently played disc) is
    kind of growing on me.  I don't know what Cds we're talking, but
    I have found myself singing I'm The Man (Ha ha funny--I know what
    snide comments y'all were gonna make) and Anti_social around
    the house.  
    
    I don't exactly have to "eat my words" beccause i can just listen
    to *his* I don't have to buy it, but hey, you know, Anthrax is
    kinda cute;^)
    
    Dilly

    RE: .127
    
    Dilly,
    
    Well the reason I say I'm eating my words is because I've bashed
    Anthrax in the past (right Pete ?)  ;^)  Like in this very note.
    What album is I'm The Man on ?  I gotta hear this Metal Rap stuff.
    
    RE: .128
    
    Thanks Pete.  Any other votes for Among The Living ??

    kc

    
    
    JC,
    
    	"Among the Living" definately first.
    
    	"I'm the Man" was originally only available as a single with
    the backside of the single featuring Bud E. Luvbomb and Satan's
    Lounge Band, which is actually Anthrax and friends having some fun.
    Due to the popularity of "I'm the Man", they re-released it as an
    EP.  The EP has three(?) versions of the song (kinda a waste).  It
    has the original, a censored, and a live version plus a couple other
    live tunes.
        
    	Some trivia:  Does anyone know what movie helped spawn "I'm the
    Man"?
    
    
    Paul
    	

    
    	Coop. . .don't  bother  getting `State of Euphoria' (is that
    it ?). . .I did and was REALLY disappointed. . .especially after
    hearing  the  cut  `Mad House'. (Which kicks royal tush, might I 
    add)  I've heard `Among the Living' (from BK) would be a much 
    better choice.  
    
    	Only  reason I haven't bought it yet, is cause I'm saving my
    pennies for a certain concert T-shirt I wanna' get this Thursday.
    :^)
    
    METALord"

    RE: JC
    
    Why don't you just borrow them from Scary and see what you like
    yourself...
    
    gh

    Gee Greg, that'd take the excitement out of it !
    
    ;^)

    Somehow spending money for something I might not like doesn't sound
    too exciting ... Coop ... talk nice to me and I'll turn ya on to
    their entire collection (including EP's ...) !!!
    
    BTW - I like all of 'em except "Fistful Of Metal".  I'm the man
    (uncensored) is a riot ... Eddie Murphy would be proud !
    
    Kiss My ****** ******' **** !
    
    
    
    				Scary

    Get Among the Living....
    
    It's AWESOME Coop!!!
    
    Because in Mega-City...
    I AM MOTORBREATH

    I can dig it.  I borrowed I'm The Man (I live that live version),
    and Among The Living from Jerry's son.  I like them both (much to
    my astonishment).
    
    I always thought that with a name like Anthrax, the music would
    be thrash.  I didn't think it was "Thrash" at all.  I guess we grow
    to learn.  I always classified Anthrax in the same category as the
    likes of Slayer, Venom etc...etc...  
    
    Coop

    
    Well, Anthrax has always been tops in my book, and now after seeing
    Metallica live, I'll admit to Charlie being the better drummer Live.
    
    Anthrax has a raw edge, and this edge IS Thrash. Much more than
    Metallica. Maybe that's why I like them so much.
    
    /prc

    I must be gettin' wacked out or something.  I don't think Metallica
    *or* Anthrax go in the Thrash catagory... I'll stay away from Venom
    and Slayer though...  I even heard Danzig the other night, and didn't
    think that was even very metal !  Just straight ahead rock and roll.
    
    ;^)
    
    jc (senility_at_its_best!)

    What's THRASH then....?  I thought Antrax and Metallica were both
    in that category.
    
    The Confused Sentinel

    Maybe I'm experiencing male menapause, cuz I used to hate metallica
    and anthrax... Now I don't even think of them as thrash !
    
    jc (Who sez, you think *your* confused !)
    

    I thought there was a song called "Madhouse" on the new Anthrax,
    but I keep looking at it and it's not there.  Am I losing it or
    what?
    
    gh

    That's on "Spreading The Disease", which is ANOTHER killer Anthrax
    album !  They are quickly becoming one of my favorite bands.
    
    
    
    				Scary

    What does the song title "A.I.R." (from Spreading the Disease) stand
    for?  I looked on the cassette jacket but didn't find it (and no
    WORDS either  ;^(  ).
    
    gh

    Peter, Peter !!   I can't believe I'm hearing this !
    
    I like Anthrax AND Metallica, but I don't feel like anyone in 
    Anthrax could hold a candle to the power-vomit-boize of Metallica.
    Different types of music anyhow...  Anthrax seems much more punk-based,
    where MEtallica is much more raw, nasty mega-crunch-metal.  Anthrax
    makes me wanna ride a skate board in a half-pipe.  
    
    Metallica makes me want to plunder a small rural town near Basingstoke,
    and free all enslaved women and children throughout the world !!! 

    Not much comparison here, but I'm not a drummer; wtf do I know ?
    The guits are way-diff.
    
    jc

btw: 
    does anyone know what nationality joe belladonna (sp?)
    is....
    i was just curios.
        
    

    RE: .147
    
    I knew that.   ;^)  I've never seen either band in concert.
    
    Just felt like rattling about Metallica and Anthrax.  I'm in an
    unusually metallic mood today...
    
    ;^)

    >>btw: 
    >>does anyone know what nationality joe belladonna (sp?)
    >>is....
    >>i was just curios.
      
    	Sounds Italian to me, but I'm guessing.
    
    	Tigga~~~  
    

		Re. Pete
			Yes, Charlie is much better than Lars but they're
		both still way behind Dave Lombardo of Slayer.

	About Joey Belladonna - he's an Indian, anyone know which tribe?


		-Mosh-

    
    I have just been told by Brian Pithers (DJ) that we're going to 
    Brixton on Sunday to...
                            
    Meet, interview, watch and afterwards - party with...
                                                          
    A N T H R A X !!!!!!
                     
    yyyyeeeeeehhaaaaa !!!!!

    
    
    
    	ACCCKK!!!!!!!!  When can I buy those tickets to England?!?!?
    	YUM YUM!!!  Danny Spitz and Frank Bello...YUM YUM!!!
    
    	Tigga~~~ (who just found out Frank used to be roadie for the
    		band!)

    
    Re:  Tigga~
    
    Frank took over for Dan Lilker(Nuclear Assault). 
    Did you also know that Frank is Charlie's nephew?
    
    
    Paul

errr... pete..
    
    say ouuta my notes will ya/...
    
    so he is indian....... i thought he looked cherokee/soiux (sp?)
    only cuase of the bone stucture....
    
    anthrax does indian i know but i thought it had no direct connection..
    
    
        
    ;^}
    
    
    
    

                Re: .151
                
                Amen.  Slayer rules.
                
                My allotted low IQ comment for the week. :')
                
                

	Re Back a few.

		I thought Dan Spitz was Frank Bello's nephew.


	-Mosh-

    
    
    Re:  Moshduck
    
    I think it works out that Charlie's sister is Frank's mother.
    
    
    Paul

                I think  Frank  was  Charlie's father's brother's
                nephew's cousin's former roommate ...
                
                "What does that make us???"
                
                "Absolutely nothing!"
                
                I see you  have the Schwartz ...  and it's as big
                as mine!!
                
                :')
                
                

    I saw Anthrax at Glasgow Barrowlands last week. Excellent gig, I
    took the girlfriend along and she even enjoyed them. The barrowlands
    is a great place for a gig, it only holds about 2500 people but
    its all standing so you can always manage to get right down the
    front if you want too. 
    The show was getting recorded for Radio Clyde plus they also said
    the were videoing it.
    Near the end of the concert I just caught sight of Frank diving
    off the stage down into the front of the crowd, I first I thought
    he got pulled in by one of the crowd but apparently one of the
    bouncers was beating up a fan so Frank plus Scott jump down to help
    the fan.
    Good On you Frank!!!!.
    
    Cheers
    Mark

    
    	Someone wrote in to Metal Edge and asked whether or not 
    	the guys from Anthrax graduated, and if any of them smoke...
    
    	The answer?
    
    	They all graduated, and none of them smoke, drink or do	
    	drugs.
    
    	Just goes to show ya that not ALL bands need that garbage!!
    
    	Tigga~~

                
                Bull, Metallica is at least as good and Slayer is
                better.  They sure as hell drink!
                
                

                
>>Bull, Metallica is at least as good and Slayer is
>>better.  They sure as hell drink!
  
    	What I meant is that it's nice to see a band thrive that
    	doesn't NEED drugs/alcohol.  I'm not saying they're any
    	better than anyone else because of it.
    
    	But it gives folks a look at the "other side of the coin"
    	when they think ALL HM bands are druggies, alcholics, etc.
    
    	Tigga~~~              
                

                Actually my  note  was  pointed at Pete, not you.
                Sorry, should have put an re: in.
                
                - Rob -
                

                                                                      
    I have just seen a video interview with Testament and they said   
    that although the 'thrax's don't touch drugs they *do* drink lots!
                                                                      
    Infact - the guys from testament said that they all (both bands)  
    went out to party one night and the bar tab for evening was $3600.
    
    Did ya know they Dan Spitz is a vegetarian ?

    Try a good cleaning of the disc Pete...
    
    jc

        Just picked up "Spreading The Disease"....
        Howcum people either love or hate this band? They sound 
        great to me, think "Armed And Dangerous" shall be the
        next one!
    
        Confusedknight
    

    Thats a tough one Pete, I don't particularly like ANTHRAX. But I
    love INDIANS!  Strange I know but there you have it.  Maybe it is
    because I am not a lover of thrash metal.  I do however like Metallica
    and one or two other bands that have been "classed" as thrash.
    
    I don't think I could define what makes me like or dislike any band.
    
    Bonzo

    
    	RE .172.
    
    	The next album I reccommend you get (and I'm sure Pete will
    agree)..is Among The Living...by far the best effort put out. 
    
    	Spreading the D is next...
    
    BK
    
    
    

	 _I'm the Man_

	 There I was...in the sewing room (sewing of course) and had
	 HBB on the TV.....then I heard this peculiar sound coming
	 from the stereo.....

	 Rap Metal??????????

	 /kath    
    
    

    
    	Yeah - that's what Anthrax is.  They're a "rap metal" band.
    
    	I like the concept.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    	You think so??  Judging from the other songs that I've heard,
    	"I'm the Man" is the only one that sounds somewhat "rappy".
    
    	Anti-Social certainly doesn't sound like "rap metal"
    
    	Tigga~~~

    Shawn,
    	Anthrax is NOT a rap metal band.
    Definitely NOT  a rap metal band.
    
    You must have only heard the I'm the Man album... they've
    got ONE rap metal tune... it was done for yuks.
    
    /Motorbreath...setting the record straight

    
    
    	Shawn was being cutsey, /MBreath.  he just forgot his
    	usual smilie.  
    
    	Tigga~~~

Anthrax is "poking" at Rap..
    

    
    Rubbish, Anthrax have done one rap tune.

                He's back!!!!
                
                :')
                
                

Didn't I SAY that the tune I heard was _I'm the Man_???  Do you guyz read? :-)

I've never heard Anthrax before, so it rather put-offish for me......If
they were "poking fun" at Rap, there were doing an awful job of it...they
disgraced the name of Rap.

And before you all go off on how Rap sux.....let me inform you that that is 
only an opinion of a lot of HMr...and that there are others that think that
rap is great (and of course think HM sux).  

I happen to enjoy both....and really thought this song wasn't worth making a 
video for, or taking the time to record.

/kath

    Lighten up, Kathy.  They're blasting Shawn...

    talking to you-ou is like clapping with one hand, caught in a mosh!!
    *What is it!?*
    
    I doubt Anthrax were poking fun at rap, I have a feeling that
    they like it, and so do I.
    
    /Motorbreath...I know you are, but...

I'll give them that much..they ARE versatile.....I believe that rap is
something that can span all the music barriers....but I didn't particularly
like this song....

And rap metal was an awfully new concept to me as I was watching/hearing
it for the first time.....perhaps it will grow on me?

/kath

    Most of the Kings X stuff I've heard (maybe a handful of songs) wasn't
    rap.  More like funky type metal.  I really liked it.
    
    gh

    
    
    	Scott, Charlie, and Frank are big-time rap fans.  Scott wore 
    a Public Enemy shirt for the majority of the ATL tour.
    
    	Kings X is definitely (now there's a word hardly anyone spells
    properly) not a rap metal band.  Some of the Beastie Boy's last album
    could be considered rap metal.
    
    	Kathy, you need to hear the uncensored version of "I'm the Man".
    It's a riot.
    
    Paul
        

Beastie Boys!  Now THERE is a group I like! :-)

Uncensored version, eh?  My biggest gripe about the tune was that I couldn't
understand what he was saying a lot of the time.....perhaps when I'm 
not so tired/distracted/shocked.....

/kath

Slight sidestep to the discussion, but IMO Run DMC's 'King of Rock' album is
a rap-metal record. 

cat

    
    
    	Re Cathy
    
    	Ya have to know ANTHRAX and what they're all about to really
    appreciate the humor behind the I am the man tune... but once ya
    know about the boys and what they are all about it's obvious that
    I am the man is nothing but fun... no raggin' or slaggin...
    
    BK
    

    
    Re: A few back - real rap metal.
    
    Try Faith No More. They do Rap Metal, Funk Metal, Thrash Metal,
    Punk Metal, you name it, I love it.
    
    Paul
    ----
    

BK!!!!!  I'm ashamed!  That's "K"athy, not "C"athy....  !!!!!

You really ARE spelling everything wrong, aren't you?

Okay...I reserve my chance to change my opinion of the song the next
time I hear/see it....

/kath

    I've been listening to the complete State of Euphoria release
    this morning, I'm still on side one, but...
    
    I LOVE it!!! With the exception (so far) of Make Me Laugh.
    
    Charlie's drum attack is incredible on this album, and Dan's
    leads are tasteful and blistering...
    
    I'm told that Now it's Dark really kills, haven't got to it.
    
    /Motorbreath...Antisocial is such a fun tune

    Ha! I know this song!
    
    /Motorbreath...don't you f****** look at me!

    
    	I just bought the same CD Sunday afternoon, and I love the
    	instrumentation on it ... but everyone knows I'm one for
    	"understandable" lyrics, which are very hard to come by on
    	this album.
    
    	"Anti-social" IS a great song ... these guys are vaguely
    	similar to Metallica when it comes to arrangement of songs.
    
    	I'll hafta give it a couple more listens before I can really
    	make a judgment.
    
    							GTI
    

    I love that tune.  It's like half punk and half metal...
    
    I love it !
    
    jc

    Ya think ?
    
    I was only refering to that particular 'toon.  But I guess would
    fit a lot of their stuff...
    
    jc

    re.206 
    Ya done good Coop.
    
    ;^)

    Agagagagaga. your cracking me up Motor...
    
    jc

    
    	"State of Euphoria" makes "Spreading the Disease" sound like
    	kindergarten stuff.
    
    	Again, I'll hafta give STD a couple listens ... but so far,
    	I don't really recall anything to write home about.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	RE: Wendy
    
    		Joe B (Belladonna, right?) is on both albums.
    
    		And he's got a great voice.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    obviusly (sp?) hey its monday!
    i got my albulms mixed up, i do think state of e.  so is much better tho'
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    	
        
    					wendy o'
    

    
    What's the name of the guy on Fistful of Metal? What ever happened to
    him (i.e. what is he doing now?)?
    
    /prc

    
    re. /prc
    		fistful of metal? i honestly dont know..
    i know you and i were talking about it, but the name totally
    escapes me.. and i own the tape, ;^}
    
    
    btw: i remeber asking /prc to ask paul mccarron if joe b. was indian??
    (for certain) if so what heritage...
    
    has anyone confirmed this????
    
    		wendy o'
    
    				

    
    Re: .213
    
    	Neil Turbin was the singer on FOM.  Last I heard, he was starting
    his own band.  That was a few years ago.
    
    	I think I mentioned this before but I'm too lazy to find it.
    Joey Belladonna's given name is Bellardini.  I don't know if it
    was originally Belladonna then Americanized to Bellardini (is it
    possible to Americanize an Indian name?) or what.  I believe his 
    parents use Bellardini.  That may still be his real name and Belladonna
    could be his stage name.  About being an Indian, I was told he is.
    Don't know what tribe.
    
    	Incidentally, the "Ian" in Scott Ian is his middle name.  Rosenfeld
    is his last name.
    
    Paul

    Americanize a name like Belladonna to Bellardini?? Um, that
    sounds mighty Italian to me, as a matter-of-fact, Belladonna
    sounds mighty Italian to me. I'm sure it is an Italian name,
    and I doubt Joey is full-blooded native American, probably
    half or something like that.
    
    If anyone here would know something like that though, it'd be
    Paul... so ...
    
    /Motorbreath...a mongrel

    
    	I guess Americanize was a bad term.  How about changed? 8^)
    
        Like you guys said, I don't think he's a full-blooded native
    American.  It might even be that he had a relative years ago that was 
    part native American and he's proud of it.
    
    	Whatever..... doesn't really make a difference, he's got a good 
    voice.  8^)
    
    Paul

ACTUALLY ... it makes alot of difference to me!!
    i would really like to know...! i just didnt feel like writing in!
    
    personally i wish he would write more on indian heritage..
    
    
    		wendy o' (whose part cherokee indian)
    
    
    

    
    
    	'Thrax is doing a show at Lamours in NYC in a few weeks time.
    Guess they're gonna premiere their new material.
    
    Paul

    
    
    	Anthrax's Scott Ian is also trying his hand at producing -
    	he's been working with rap group United Forces.
    
    	(That's right folks...for all those who hate I'm the Man....
    	listen up)  (8 (8 (8
    
    	Tigga~~~

    
    
    actually i think that is the only form of rap i could listen to...
    i thought anthrax did a good job at that tho'
    ........
    
    		wendy o'
    
    
    
    

    
    	It should be said that the Bassist from Nuc assault...Dan Likker
    is the former bassist of ANthrax....
    
    BK
    

    Who was the singer before Belladonna??
    
    Who's responsible for writing most of the music for Anthrax?
    Scott Ian?
    
    /Motorbreath

    How come no one in here reported the Feb 24th FIRE in Anthrax' Queens
    rehearsal studio?
    
    They lost EVERYTHING!!!
    
    B.

    -1
    
    Their drummer was quoted as saying "Man, I never thought a cymbol could
    MELT!"
    
    They said the loss would not halt their recording/touring schedule (if
    they could help it).

    Damage estimate was $150,000 in custom-made equipment.
    
    Marshall does DO promotional freebees!

    Ooooops, 
    
    make that Marshall DOESN"T do freebes

    
    
    	Neil Turbin does vocals on "FOM".
    
    	My understanding is Scott writes all lyrics and the writing of
    music is a group effort.
    
    
    
    Paul

    
    	(I didn't know this!) From June's RIP Magazine
    
    	"You've no doubt by now heard about the Anthrax rehearsal-	
    	stuio fire, which claimed a good deal of the band's 
    	equipment, tapes and other paraphernalia....
    

    	Tigga~~~

    
    	It was in this conference somewhere.
    
    							GTI
    

Is there a new album?  After "State of Euphoria"?  I thought that one sounded
a little more processed/produced then the earlier ones...  (but still heavy)

Greg

    how did you find out...?  ;^}
    
    
    	wendy o'
    
    
    
    

re: New one in August

Cool!  Looking forward to it.

gh    

    Don't belive him Rob!  He nicked it from one of my replies in the
    new releases topic!
    
    8^P
    
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      Antrax will relase "Persistance of time" in late august....
      supposedly the heaviest and angriest Anthrax ever.

    
    Persistence of Time is set for release on August 20th.
    
    Side one:	Time, Blood, Keep it in the family, In my world,
    		Gridlock.
    
    Side Two:	Intro to reality, Belly of the beast, Got the time,
    		H8red, One man stand, Discharge.
    
    Flip

    
    Physcmania!!!

    
    Don't you mean: Psychomania!
    
    Flip

    
    
    RE: Flip, NO WAY I don't use an O.
    
    - kr

    With or without the O, you still managed to cock it up!  8^)
    
    Flip

    
    	Or ... "Suicycomania!".
    
    
    	[Suicidal Tendencies]
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    	I guess Anthrax has a cover version out now of Joe Jackson's
    "Got the Time".  I heard it rips.  They always choose cool songs 
    to cover.
    
    
    Paul

    
    
    when the album due??
    
    i thought it was August??
    
    
    		wendy o'
    
    
    

    "Got the Time" huh?  One of my old bands was going to do that one, it's
    a great song!  I'd love to hear a 'thrax cover of it!
    
    gh

    
    
    
    	Heard the cover of "Got the Time" last night... sounded great!!
    Has a real thrashy sound to it... looks like they smartened up.
    
    
    
    Paul	
    

    I just called up my local record store and they said the new album will
    be out the 21st.
    
    gh

    re Anthrax covers...
    
    I LOVE their cover of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath!!!
    
    /MBreth

    THANKS GREG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    I CANT WAIT..!!!
    
    
    	WENDY O'
    
    

I agree.  Damn good cover of Sabbath-B-S.

jc

    
    
    I GOT IT!!
    
    
    ANTHRAX's latest that is!!!!
    
    now if i just had my walkman at work..
    
    
    
    		wendy o'
    
    
    

    
    I've had it for ages!
    
    But the doctors have promised that it'll be gone after three more
    shots  ;^)
    
    -Tony (can't wait to check out the new release)

    
    
    
    	After the first listen, I like it!  Back to the style of "ATL".
    Crunchy-sounding guitars and heavy-sounding drums.  The lyrics appear
    meaningful as well.
    
    	Heard "Got the Time" last night on WFNX even.
    
    	They've taken a lot of slack for being a "novelty" band.  Whether
    it was done on purpose or not, I'm not all that sure... but it seems
    they're really trying to get away from it now.
    
    
    Paul

    What's this about Anthrax being a "novelty band"?  I never heard that
    or thought it.  Is that because of "I'm The Man" or what?
    
    gh

    
    
    	Re: Greg
    
    	"I'm the Man" had something to do with it, wearing the jams had
    something to do with it, the "NOT man"..., associating with skaters
    (skateboarders)..., and using the NYHC (New York Hard Core) logo...
    
    	People felt they were relying too heavily on gimmicks or "in"
    things to get their music sold.  This might imply the band didn't 
    even trust the quality of their music.  Which IMO isn't true.
    
    	I'd guess the "NOT" man won't be making as many appearances on
    band merchandise as he's had in the past.  Also I'd bet the band
    won't be wearing jams as much or at all.
    
    Paul

    I never thought of those things as gimicks, just things the band liked. 
    Kind of gave them their own character, which I considered rather
    refreshing in this day of the "generic look" musician.  
    
    I suppose I could see how that might make some (weak minded) people not
    take them seriously (if they didn't listen to the music), but it seems
    to me that if they really liked those things and are not getting into
    the "generic band" look and feel, that they're kind of selling out.  
    
    Personally I think that sucks...  But what really sucks is that people
    make them feel like they feel that they have to do that to be taken
    seriously.  Listen to the music, this isn't a novelty band!
    
    gh

    I still havent listened to it.. well sort (in sslllooooww mmmootion)
    :^}
    
    i dont think its as good as"  state of e(sp?).... we'll see tho'
    
    
    		wendy o'
    

    So far, have only gotten through "Time"
    ehh. Not bad, I'll probably love the whole album after a couple of
    listens though.
    
    /Motorbreath...anyone else notice that SoE and PoT both require 
    MAJOR rework of the equalizer to sound good? Massive amounts of
    bass.

    
    What a PHENOMENAL cover of Joe Jackson's "Got the Time"!!!!!!
    
    /Motorbreath...says that side two RULES!!!! Times two! ;^)

    
    

        The big thing they'd get hassled for was the jams.  It seemed as
    though whenever something was written about the band jams had to be
    mentioned.  I'm sure they like wearing shorts (who doesn't?!) and they 
    figured it was a cool idea because it was different but it kinda backfired.
	
	"I'm the Man" helped and hurt them.  Gave them a "hit" but lots of
    people thought it was a silly gimmick and others who never heard them 
    before thought they were a Beastie Boys clone.  I think it was innocent 
    enough.  Frank, Scott and Charlie are rap fans and "I'm the Man" was 
    originally a B-side.  A few DJ's picked up on it and it caught on.  Can't 
    blame the band for that.

        Associating with skaters is a different story.  When skating started
    getting popular again the band started using skates in some promo pictures
    and on their t-shirts.  Whether it was a coincidence or an image thing...
    who knows?  An interview in Thrasher magazine (skate mag) had band members 
    talking about the possibility of bringing a ramp on tour with them.  I had 
    asked Scott at the start of the "ATL" tour if they brought one and he said 
    no.  Found out later he was the only one that really skated.

        Also the NYHC logo.... people in the NYHC scene felt that their
    "colors" were misused 'cuz Anthrax put them on sleeves of their t-shirts 
    and on some other promo material.  The band later removed the logo from 
    the shirts after catching some flack from the NYHC crowd.  Again, whether 
    Anthrax used it for an image thing or not... who knows?

        The band has always been concerned with why they haven't had the 
    notoriety that Metallica has seen.  Maybe because of the above image 
    claims?... whether they're true or not would certainly affect it.
	    	
	In the long run... "let the music do the talking."  Hmmm.... good
    idea for a song!? ;^)

    
    Paul
                   

    
    	I love Anthrax, but I consistently compare them with Metallica,
    and they just don't...
    
    /Motorbreath...who loves Anthrax' crunchy mosh sound, but their
    lyrics are usually pretty awful

    
    
    Just picked up the new tape myself and I LOVE it.  I think it is
    heavier than "state".  Have to admit, haven't really picked out my
    favorite tunes yet.  Can't wait to see them on tour!!!!  have to 
    give a better opinion in about a week.
    
    - Kim 

    re.last
    you think its heavier???
    
    
    really i thought it was alot lighter.. I have heard some of side
    one.. I have the thing cranked and i also end end asleep!!
    anyway i played side 2 but didnt hear it..
    
    What I have heard so far.. I think its a flop!!
    
    as far as metallica, thats comparing lemons to limes ...
    
    The point i'm trying to make here is that I disagree with all of you
    the ablumn is **not* as good as "state" and the vocals are every bit
    as good as what he has put out! ..Joe B. rulz:^}
    
    
    I think they should rerelease "I"M  THE  MAN, " I think Anthrax would
    get more visability!!....
    
    
    
    		wendy o'
    
    
    
    
    

    I think re-releasing I'm the Man would be the WORST thing for
    them to do. Like Paul said, they want to be taken seriously, not
    to be known as a novelty band. I do hope that they don't stop
    doing it live though!!!
    	I don't think it's heavier either. They're tasty tunes,
    and their musicianship improves on every effort, but this
    album isn't as entertaining as AtL.
    
    /Motorbreath

    
    I dunno.. they want to get attention... good or bad.. they would
    get the visabilty!!
    
    after they get that they can work on changing thier image..
    let them get there first!
    jmo.
    
    		wendy o'
    
    
    
    
    

    
    
    I don't think it's heavier than AtL - by a long shot but, I do think
    it's heavier than "state".  Why would they wanna rerelease something
    they just did a year or two ago.  I thought bands only rereleased
    really old stuff.  I really don't wanna give to much of a review 
    until I've had some more time to listen to the tape.
    
    - kim

    i thougth i'm the man was released in 1977....
    thats what i see as far a release dates.
    
    		wendy o'
    
    
    
    
    

    
    
    yes i'm serious..
    
    
    well thats what i have in black and white..
    
    hey wait a min.. you agreed with me two months ago on this
    1977 .. you dont know what you say sometimes...
    
    
    wendy o'
    
    
    

    
    	RE: Wendy
    
    	I think "Antisocial" is the song that was written who-knows-
    	when, not "I'm the Man".
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    ok.. i dont know for sure 77/87.. i still was making a point about
    visabillty tho'
    
    
    
    wendy o'
    
    
    

    re.287
    rathole alert, but they released the single, made a video, and 
    also an album with like 3 or 4 versions of the song on it.
    I think they beat the "I'm the Man" thing to death Wendy.
    
    /Motorbreath

    
    
    	Re: Heavier sounding
    
    	To add my vote, I think it's heavier than SOE and equal to ATL.
    Maybe I should give these both a listen again to be sure though.
    
    	I didn't like SOE all that much.  I don't like new F&J.  Same guy
    produced both (Alex Perialas)... maybe that's the reason?
    
    
    	Re: I'm the Man
    
    	It *was* re-released... as an EP.  It had three... yes three different 
    versions of ITM... the uncut version(real one), a censored one(for radio 
    and MTV), and a live one... plus three other live tunes from the ATL tour.  
    It worked out well for the band $$$-wise 'cuz it did very well on the
    charts but it gave a lot of people a bad idea of what the band was about.
    
    	Kinda surprising it did so well on the charts... if you consider
    that people paid good money for three version of one song and live
    version of previously released material.
    
        
    Paul

    
    
    	Re: .288/.289
    
    	Sometimes it takes me too long to gather my thoughts. 8^)
    
    
    Paul

    
    
    Anthrax - Persistence of Time
    
    So what the F**k happened, eh?  One minute everything was rosy in the
    anthrax garden, the kids were going nutso the Bermuda shorts were loved
    and the band were doing something genuinly innovative, crossing into
    rap territory with I'm the Man.  Next thing you know, someone's pulled
    the plug on Anthrax's progress. the worm turns and everybody's going on
    about how they never really liked the band anyway!
    
    Like I say, what the F**K happened?  Was it something they put in the
    water?  Was it something chemical, implememnted by every jealous thrash
    band on the planet?  Search me buddy, but there's no denying that
    Anthrax were no longer deemed hot shit.  The party's over.  The kids
    have gone away!  Or have they?  Well that's what Persistence Of Time is
    here to find out.
    
    Only time will tell, but if nothing else POT proves that Anthrax have
    the balls.  They know that they've got their backs against the wall,
    but they've come out fighting with a viscious little bastard of a
    record, a record that proves there's a whole lot more to Anthrax than
    the constantly grinning "cheeky chappies" of yore!
    
    POT is so dark in feel that it should have come out in a Spinal Tap
    approved totally black sleeve!  This is an album born out of
    frustration and unwarranted kicks in the teeth.  It's a gnarled finger
    given to the swist of fate that dealt the band a sucker punch for no
    other reason than it bleedin' felt like it!
    
    As such, this is not an easy album to deal with.  Don't expect to warm
    to it on first aural assault, and don't whatever you do, listen to it
    with your head in the oven.  To the poseurs who dismiss Anthrax as not
    moody enough for their Thrash macho ethos, this is the ultimate
    payback.  Most of the songs featured are over six minutes long, and
    each number is solid with fearsome riffing that should strike terror
    into the hearts of all wimpwire readers and a glow of delight into the
    souls of all fans of intense music.
    
    It seems to me that Gridlock is the standard bearer of the record,
    staggeringly intense and built for anything but comfort around the
    tightest Scott Ian and Dan Spitz rhythmic assault.  Couple the music
    with a lyric that directly tackles the problems of the band's
    credibility and you've got a real angry winner.
    
    And that's the name of the game for most of the album.  It's fairly
    obvious that Anthrax have developed and obsession for their situation,
    and each song reeks of an "us against them", "strength through self
    belief and insularity" mentality.  Mere paranoia?  I don't think so,
    and it's certainly put the band's intensity factor at an all time high. 
    Blood, Time, Discharge.  Monosyllabic and stripped to the bone, leaving
    the raw lyric and music so sharp it hurts.  It ain't pretty and it's
    far from funny, but it's appeal it that the album feels so focused. 
    Even when the band stretch out the feel is still tight and taut.  Intro
    to Reality has a touch of AC/DC, Belly of the Beast nods at musical
    mentors Maiden, but it's still quintessentially Anthrax - an boy,
    they're still pissed off!
    
    The only light moment is a cover of Joe Jackson's Got the Time that
    sounds for all the world like New Model Army jamming with GBH.  Odd,
    but kinda neat.
    
    All that's acking here is that one track that would reaffirm Anthrax as
    one of rock's great bands.  There's no I am the Law here, but then
    again they don't come around every songwriting corner, do they?  And
    maybe they wouldn't want it anyway.  First single In My World affirms
    the no compromise stance as well as anything!
    
    What do you do when the shit hits the fan?  Do you lay down an die?  Do
    you crawl back under your stone?  Or do you relase an album that
    reaffirms your own existence?
    
    "One day I'll get what's mine/Through the persistence of time"
    
    Do you need me to spell it out for you?
    
    Copied from Kerrang without permission
    
    Flip

    
    
    Got to see the new Anthrax video this weekend.  GREAT VID OF COURSE!!!
    It's for the tune "Got the Time".  Scott is completely BALD!!  The only
    hair is has is that pointy goteeke (probably spelled that wrong).
    
    - Kim

    
    
    
    	He's losing his hair big time so bzzzzzzzzz.....
    
    	Actually he has a ponytail in the back.  Looks kinda like some
    samurai 'do.
    
        I saw the video also.  I liked it.  That song rules!
    
    
    Paul 

    
    
    RE:  Paul
    
    Yah, I wasn't sure if I saw the pony tail or not.  Yah, he has been
    losing his hair.  I think he looks good bald.
    
    - kim

    Hats off to Scott!!!!!!
    
    I'm tellin' ya, if I were losing my hair that badly, I'd 
    shave the sh*t off too.
    
    /Motorbreath...thank God he didn't grow it 8 inches long on
    one side, and wax it across the top of his head.
    
    I'm NOT going bald I'm NOT going bald I'm NOT going bald

    
    
    RE: Minardi
    
    HAHAHAHAHAHA IF?!?!?!?!
    
    Anyways, Anthrax got a great review in People magazine.  Let me know if
    you want me to post it.
    
    - Kim

    In People??  I'm surprised they got MENTIONED, much less a good
    review...
    
    I heard "Got the Time" when I was in Denver Saturday and thought it was
    a pretty good cover.  I still like the original better though.
    
    gh

    
    
    Yup, People reviewed "Persistence of Time" and the new Concrete Blond
    tape too.
    
    - Kim

    
    Has anyone heard of the Soldiers Of Metal L.P. ?
    
     A very rare Anthrax (official) Boot leg. (official as in being
    in vinel)
    
     Well I've got a friend who is selling his copy.
    
    I've heard I'ts rare in black vinel, well this one is even more
    rare, It's in BLUE vinel.
    
     (Not too sure if thats how you spell vinel, vy, vi.!! :-} ) 
    
     Open to any offers, No time wasters!! :-)
    
     Contact me through vax mail.
    
    
                                                    JoN.

    Try vinyl.
    
    HTH

                FWIW, I happened to be up at 4:30 am and flipped
                on the TV.  On the 'What's Up Dr. Ruth' show on
                Lifetime, Anthrax was the special guests.  Was pretty
                amusing to see DR. Ruth ask them to mosh on stage... :')

    
    The Video:  Anthrax Through Time P.O.V.
    
    Features:	Metal thrashing mad, mad house, indians, I'm the man,
    		I am the law, antisocial, who cares wins, got the time
    		and In my world.
    
    Flip

    	+++++ (Lethal! ...five daggers)
    
    	During the recording of this album, the guys in Anthrax would
    	occasionally make an appearance at the RIP offices, and from
    	thier mild-mannered demeanors, you would never have guessed that
    	they were churning out the toughest, most stripped-down,
    	no-nonsense thrash album of the year.  Unfortunately, 'Thrax
    	hasn't had much competition in the last 12 months, but that
    	doesn't lessen their accomplishment any.  In fact, considering
    	some of the lackluster material that has passed through our
    	offices of late, "Persistenace of Time" is a great blast of
    	fresh air.
    
    	This release throws you hefty chunks of New York-style anger
    	and frustration, coupled with a blend of heavy-handed power
    	and those ever-present catchy Anthrax choruses.  While "State
    	of Euphoria," the group's last LP, took these elements to
    	an extreme that almost bordered on self-parody, on "Persistence"
    	the guys have decided to play it a little more straight and
    	serious.  From the opening track, "Time," Anthrax comes
    	across like a solid-steel piston, hammering down with an 
    	unrelenting energy.  As usual the lyrics are often concerned
    	with attacking theat most vile of four-letter words: hate--
    	more specifically, racial hatred.  THe group states its case
    	stronlgy in "Keep it in the Family" and "H8 Red."  These
    	big-city boys also slice through deft illustrations of their
    	environment in tunes like "In My World" and "Belly of the
    	Beast."  Their town is a tough place to live, and they pull
    	no punches when slamming that point home.
    
    	The lightest, and most musically revealing song on the record
    	is "Got the Time," which was originally recorded a decade ago	
    	by New Waver Joe Jackson.  The Anthrax version sounds like
    	a souped-up '60s garage number.  The irony to this is that
    	both New Wave and metal -- two greatly divergent forms of
    	rock -- draw many of their influences from the same obscure,
    	often unsung grunge maniacs of the '60s.  The truth of this
    	little-known fact has never been more apparent than it is
    	here.
    
    	Review from RIP (Dec. 90) by  Janiss Garza

    I just got POT a couple of days ago, and it's nice to know Anthrax can
    still dish it out!
    
    'April_the_closet_mosher_

    
> Note 126.306 by DPDMAI::THRELFALL 
    
> I just got POT a couple of days ago, and it's nice to know Anthrax can
> still dish it out!
    
  	You mean they're giving out weed for free? Agagagagagaga!
    
    	/prc

    pete:  No, that's not what I mean.  However, I'm sure they would widen
    their audience quite a bit if they did!
    ;)
    'April

    
    Just kidding!!! 8-)

    
    	Of course I was! 

    
    	I finally listened to this album [got it for Christmas].  Not
    	bad, really ... but not as good as "State of Euphoria".
    
    	The songs I like are "Gridlock" and ... ummm, one other which
    	I don't seem to recall the name of.  It's the 4th song or so,
    	I think.
    
    							GTI
    

    Yea, State Of Euphoria is way Rulin' over POT........

    
    I don't know, I like PoT alot better. Apparantly so does Anthrax!
    
    

    Hey Cookster:
    
    Do you like PoT more than "I Am The Man"  I like the cover of Sabbath
    Bloody Sabbath on that album..........
    
    -They play it better than Sabbath played it! (IMO)
    
    'prilllllll  

    
    Well, Gil Moore and Mike Levine both hate Magic Power which is probably
    Triumph's best song.  SO just cause the band hates it or likes it...
    :')
    
    (Got this from an interesting recent interview from Levine.  He says
    Magic Power was originally a folk song Rik Emmet wrote and they had a
    hell of a time trying to turn it into a rock song :'))
    
    

    I think Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is an AMAZING cover by Anthrax!!!
    
    /Mike

    
    re: -1
    
    I agree. I love I'm the Man, but it's only an EP. Here's the order I
    like 'em:
    
    1. Among the Living
    2. Spreading the Disease
    3. Persistence of Time
    4. State of Euphoria
    5. Armed and Dangerous
    
    I'm the Man is somewhere inbetween 2 and 3.

    
    What about "fistful of Metal"...at least I think it's called that.
    Anyway, the cover is a picture of someone getting a knuckle sandwich
    and had the fist Anthrax singer and I think it has the songs, I'm
    Eighteen and Metal Thrashing Mad.
    
    I think.
    
    Flip

    Among the living iz their best!!

    
    re: .319
    
    Replace Armed and Dangerous with Fistful of Metal, sorry, my mistake.
    
    /prc

    I was not an Anthrax fan (SOE was quite fine but not a favourite) and
    recently I had the occasion to buy POT so I took the risk.
    It was well worth as it is for me the best of what I heard from
    Anthrax, and surely one of the best heavy metal albums in 1990. It's
    very heavy, the compositions are strong and they play (and sing) very
    well. All the songs are fine including the hot cover of "Got the time".
    This CD enters directly my favourite list.
    I think, like Slayer with "Seasons..", Anthrax has reached its
    musical maturity with POT.
    
    Sorin                                                      

    Re: -1
    
    What kind of POT is it? ;-)

    Re -1 I second that question!  (^8*.
    
    
    Ga-ZAZ

    
    Spark it.

Re. last few

It's a burning metal pot.

Sorin

PS. Happy birthday GAZ !!

    Anthrax fans: Please answer burning question re: new song in 17.398.
    
    Thanks!
    
    Bruce

    
    That's just something they did for the hell of it. It was directed at
    Saddam Hussein. No new song, they're just being obnoxious.

    Yea ! Awesome !

    
    
    	They used to use that "suck my......" line in one of the infinitely
    many versions of "I'm the Man". 
    
    
    
    Paul

As I like PoT I wonder if AtL is of the same level (sound quality and production
included). I relistened yesterday evening SoE and I enjoyed it much more than
the first time (maybe because of PoT).
I would like to buy AtL but I hesitate a little.

Sorin

    On the contrary, AtL is probably their best album.
    Definitely buy it, some of their most classic songs are on there.
    A lot of the album is based on the Stephen King book The Stand,
    which is a fantastic story.
    I think you'll like it (way better than SoE, or Pot, fer sure)
    
    /M

    AtL is a killer album but my vote goes for StD which has my all time
    favourite Anthrax song "armed and dangerous".I need to listen to the
    new albuma few more times.
    
    
    
                                 Staynz

    Finally I got AtL and I like it. Thanks for the recommendations.
    It's an excellent album from any point of view.
    
    Sorin

    The first time I saw Anthrax was on the AtL tour,totally blew me away.
    Loved the way they started the show with the Blues Brothers tune..
    They also blew the fuses in the concert hall and had to restart I am
    the Law.I managed to get a bootleg LP of the very memorable
    performance.

    I received my first introduction to this band over the weekend.  Glad
    to hear I haven't missed anything...

    Thats what I like about you Mikey.  So open-minded!
    
    Which album were you listening to?  Try 'Persistance of Time' for
    quality Anthrax.  I admit the lyrics leave much to be desired, but you
    can hardly hear them anyway (^8*.
    
    
    GAZ

    The music for this band is kickin' !  True, the lyrics aren't *quite*
    up there with Sting, but ...   8^)
    
    Scary (yep, it's a Madhouse ...)

    the music and mayhem,everything that goes with this band is excellant.
    anytime you see them in concert,you can be assured to get your moneys'
    worth!
    
    
    
    
                                                   Staynz 

    
    
    Agreeed.
    
    IMO, they put on a good show!
    
    
    Goddess

     Mikey....Check out Anthrax's metal "rap" called "I'M THE MAN"
    it's quite hillarious!  Be careful though it's got some curse
    words on it!8*)
    
                        Frizkid
    

    
    	"Antisocial" ROOLZ!!
    
    							GTI
    

    have you ever heard the original "antisocial"??it's not very good.
    
    
                                           Staynz

    Re: GAZ
    
    I consider myself open-minded for even giving them a chance.  
    
    Re: Frizkid & curse words
    
    Careful, you show your age with statements like that.  Don't worry
    though, I'm a big boy and have heard them all.
    
    The recording I heard was a live bootleg copy of their performance here
    in the Coliseum.  It was a good quality recording, but I still couldn't
    understand a single word they said.
    
    Mike

    Paul, are you gonna just sit there and let them talk about Anthrax 
    like this?!    8-)
    
    -Stevie D 

    
    
    		anti-social 
    
    and Finally roolzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    		
    		(so there! )
    
    
    			wendy o'
    
    
    

    
    
    Mike,
    
    IMO everything live, and especially bootleg stinks!!
    
    If you have the oppotunity, you may want to listen to something on
    label..  you may like them better..
    
    Goddess F.

>    Careful, you show your age with statements like that.  Don't worry
>    though, I'm a big boy and have heard them all.
 
    Let us turn ya on to some new ones then!  ;^)
    
    FWIW, I think Anthrax cranks!  I could care less whether you can
    understand the words or not.  Vocals in music are just filler between
    the guitar solos anyway...
    
    gh

    
    
    Mike....
    
    You better watch it, or I might label you "mainstream" (aka, boring)!
    
    Anthrax kicks!  However, they can't hold a candle to some other groups
    with the same sort of sound!
    
    kath
    
    

    Well if I ever run across a studio release, I'll give them a second
    chance.  Admittedly, they seemed to have a thrash sound and I'm not
    really fond of that style.
    
    As for the "mainstream" label, don't you threaten me like that! 
    Save it for the JBJ lovers! ;-)
    
    I know all the new words too.  How about I teach YOU some? ;-)
    Afterall, I'm a lot closer to America's trend vortex than anyone else
    in here.
    
    Mike

>    Afterall, I'm a lot closer to America's trend vortex than anyone else
>    in here.
    
    Vortex (vorteks) n. 
    1. Fluid flow involving rotation about an axis, exp. a whirlpool
    2. A situation regarded as drawing into i'ts center all that surrounds
    it
    
    Sounds like you're saying California SUCKS!
    
    gh

    >Vortex (vorteks) n. 
    >1. Fluid flow involving rotation about an axis, exp. a whirlpool
    >2. A situation regarded as drawing into i'ts center all that surrounds it
    
     3. Awesome suspended coaster at Canada's Wonderland!
     4. Ok multi-element coaster at King's Island
     5. Boring stand-up coaster at Great America

    In some things it does, but you have to admit that a lot of the "new"
    trends are born there.
    
    Personally, I can't wait for the big one so that AZ becomes the new 
    western coastline.  ;-)
    
    Mike

    >Personally, I can't wait for the big one so that AZ becomes the new 
    >western coastline.  ;-)
    
    I can wait...that'll mean Golf N Stuff wil lbe the new "HOT" westcoast
    coaster park!
    
      _    /|   
      \'o.O'    
      =(___)=   Aack!!!
         U      
    

    
    
    	Re: Stevie D
    
    	Once Mike gets a good listen (as F. said... bootlegs stink!!)
    he'll come around like everyone else who ragged on them back in the
    early days of this note. 8^)  Then again he doesn't get into thrashy 
    stuff so.......
    
    	A lot of people don't seem to like Anthrax's lyrics.  I think 
    they're pretty good.
    
    
    Paul
        

>    	A lot of people don't seem to like Anthrax's lyrics.  I think 
>    they're pretty good.
    
    I take it that the albums contain lyric sheets ;-)

    Will somebody please nudge the Cookster ... I know he wouldn't let this
    go on too long ....  8^)
    
    
    Scary

    Really Mike, have a listen to Persistence of Time and Among the Living
    before you make a snap judgement of Anthrax music.  Even if you don't
    like thrash particularly, there is a lot in these albums to commend
    them to SERIOUS music lovers.  Re. the lyrics, I see where you are
    coming from, lyric sheets included (^8*.
    
    Oh, and while you are at it, try Slayer:Seasons in the Abyss,
    especially the title track.
    
    Otherwise, I have a complete list of AOR bands that I have specially
    compiled for you and will send totally free of charge! (^8*.
    
    
    
    GAZ

As I listened last time AtL, SoE and PoT together, I think PoT is clearly for 
me their best album to date.

Sorin

    
    Anthrax is simply incredible. They're the perfect mix of thrash, metal,
    and complexity. Charlie Benante is a *phenomenal* drummer. His style,
    endurance, speed, and creativity is fantastic. I couldn't possibly
    say enough about them. When they backed up Iron Maiden, that was a
    dream come true! I've seen 'em three times, once in Springfield for
    Among the Living, 3rd row at the Orpheum, and the last tour. Every
    time they were right on, didn't miss a beat. The guitarists are
    great too. It took me some time to get used to the singer (Joey) but
    eventually I began to like him.
    
    I'll take Anthrax over Metallica ANY day!
    
    /prc

    
    
    I think their lyrics could be worse..

    
    
    Re -1.  That is a very daring statement!
    
    I think their hair could be longer....
    
    I think their jeans could be bluer....
    
    
    
    GAZ
    

    
    
    8*P

    
    Their lyrics are fine. What do ya want, Edgar Allen Poe?

    RE:348..Greg
               heeheeheeheeheeheeheehee!
         
        Anthrax is a band for everyone......even the close-minded ones!8*)
    
                                    Frizkid
    

    
    	ANTHRAX ROOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    		aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh YES! 
    
    
    			wendy o'_remebering the concert where she had third 
    	row TIXS!!!!!
    
    
    
    

    Personally,i think the "Fistfull of Metal" album is the best thing
    Ahthrax did,and i reckon kicking Matt Fallon out of the band was
    a mistake.Actually.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    
    	Anthrax are scheduled to be releasing an album/cd/tape of cover
    songs this week.  Chuck D makes a guest appearance.
    
    
    Re: Joe Strummer
    
    >>Ahthrax did,and i reckon kicking Matt Fallon out of the band was
    >>a mistake.Actually.
    
    	Do you mean Neil Turbin?  He was supposedly let go 'cuz he was
    more concerned about the band's appearance than their music.
    
    
    Paul

    
    Fistful of metal is their worst,the vocals suck.Joey Belladonna is an
    excellant singer and 110% better than Turbin.
    
    
    
                                     Staynz

    
    I agree, but the cover of Alice Cooper's "I'm Eighteen" is the
    BALLZ!

    .369
    
    I agree i think i wrote something about fist full of metal being bad
    newzzzzzzzzzzz and i also said something about JoeB being far
    better sounding than Neil 
    
    			
    
    I hve fist full of metal if anyone wants it, i dont like it..
    anthrax or not................\
    
    
    		I also dont like the persistance of time either
    
    (no flames, i'm just not impressed, its just not happenin'  ok? )
    
    			wendy o'
    
    

    Aye,you`re right it`s Neil Turbin. Where did i get the name Fallon
    from? Very odd.
    
    I dunno.I think the album`s got some good tracks on it,(though i was
    joking when i said it`s the best album they did). Panic is good,
    and er,i think it`s called Death from above or something. I haven`t
    heard it for ages.
    
    It was good for it`s time. I remember (this`ll probably confuse/bore
    Murican readers) buying the album from a 'mods only' shop down 
    Carnaby Street in London. The place was packed with mods checking
    out the clothes and stuff,so i told the guy to put the record on
    so i could check it out,and "Metal thrashing mad" blared out. 
    I was chased out the shop. Ha!
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

>>Where did i get the name Fallon
>>    from?
    
    
    The Pamela Sue Martin character from Dynasty.
    
    
    HTH

    SPEAKING of Anthrax!
    
    The new E.P. is out...it's called "Attack of the killer B's"  
    I just got it..whew! I AM IMPRESSED!~!!!!!!!  This is the longest E.P.
    ever with 12 very hard tunes!!!!!!!  
    
    milk (ode to billy) *the* best on the whole album!
    bring the noise -a cover of chuck d's rap song...kinda stupid.
    keep it in the family (live)
    Startin up a Posse (my personal fave...it's like a folk song with
    thrashy undertones)
    protest & survive --truly Anthrax!!!
    Chromatic death...you may recognize this as the old theme song to
    "Headbanger's Ball"
    I'm the Man '91 --obvious
    parasite--old kiss tune
    pipeline--another cover
    sects--"     "
    Belly of the beast (live)
    N.F.B (dallabnikufesin)--this had me rolling on the floor!  It is a
    spoof of all the love songs ever written!  It ends with "she got hit by
    a truck!"
    
    <here's some lyrics from 'milk'
    
    I woke up, can't wait to eat
    I got my cereal, boy was I beat
    Opened the fridge, and to my dismay
    There was no milk, my mother will pay
    
    I want some milk!
    My coffee grows cold
    I want some milk!
    I should've been told
    
    I wish I had some g*ddamn milk
    My cheerios just ain't the same
    I wish I had some d*ddamn milk
    Too bad the milkman never came
    
    I can't go out to the store
    I'll just wait 'till mommy buys more
    I'll just have wheat thins and beer
    If I get sick the toilet is near
    
    
    Of course the rest is repetition!~

    
    Yeah, I'm really surprised they put two Stormtrooper of Death
    covers on it.
    

    
    	Yea, it's very reasonably priced too AND the band wanted it to
    	be this way.  Is it on vinyl?  I saw it at Tower but will wait
    	a bit to get it.  It's great to seem them getting noticed by
    	NME (New Music Express), on the cover this week.
    
    	- Jim

    
    	Vinyl?  What's that??
    
    							GTI
    

    
    re: -1
    
    What I recorded on 4 years ago! 8-)

    Pretty soon they'll be saying (and in this order):
    
    "Cassette?  what's that?"
    "DAT?  what's that?"
    "DCC? what's that?"
    
    BTW - Pioneer's recordable CD player will be out in the fall!  For
    $1400, you get compatibility with today's CD formats, as well as WORM
    recording capability.
    
    Mike

    
    I heard it last night - excellent!!!  The chuck d rap song reminds me
    of Ice Ice Baby.
    
    Flip

    
    
    They did the rap song with NWA.  I saw a thing on it yesterday on MTV
    News.
    
    One of the members of Anthrax (sorry can't remember which one) - its
    his favorite band.
    
    
    Goddess F.

    Yes and what a load of C-rap it was too!
    
    I preferred the thing with RUN DMC and Aerosmith!  At least you could
    make out the Aerosmith influence.
    
    You would not have noticed it if Anthrax had not been involved!
    
    
    GAZ 

    
    
    	Re: Goddess F.
    
    	Uuuummmm.... not NWA but Public Enemy (specifically Chuck D. and
    Flavor Flav).
    
    
    	BTW, P.E.'s (original) version of "Bring the Noise" is awesome
    and from the little bit I heard of Anthrax's cover... thumbs up!
    
    	The band seems to be more than a bit concerned about people saying
    they're "hopping on the rap bandwagon"... ex. Scott saying P.E. is his 
    favorite band, Charlie saying we did the rap thing back in '86, and 
    Frank saying if people wanna think that they "can $%#*&^!".
    
     
    Paul
    

    
    
    NWA...  Public Enemy..   same thing!!  
    
    8*)
    
    just kidding..  I'm not into rap so thats why I get confused!!
    
    
    Goddess F.

    er: .384
    
    F.,  Same here!

    
    	When April agrees with you, it's time to change your opinion.
    
    	8^)
    
    	[Just kidding, dear,  I still like ST.  8^)]
    
    							GTI

    I think the song is brilliant,and a lot better than the wimpy RUN DMC/
    Aerosmith thing. (Wimpy in lyric content,i mean).
    
    No way can you accuse Scott "NOT" Ian of jumping on any band wagon.He
    was wearing Public Enemy t-shirts back in '85.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    I am not accusing anyone of jumping on bandwagons.  I just don't see
    the point in an excellent thrash band like Anthrax playing backing band
    for a Rap band.  And the result is a total waste of time.  I don't know
    what they intended to achieve, but in my extremely ingratiating opinion
    this song sux!
    
    The only decent HM rap song was 'EPIC'.
    
    
    GAZ

      Speaking of "EPIC".....
    On the new Anthrax album they have a little part dedicated to it.
    It goes: WHAT IS IT? Gimme a break...man GET OFF MY D^^K!
    
    
                    Frizkid
    

    I really don't understand you sometimes Frizzy!  You are the most
    inconsistant person I (sort of) know!  How can you say that EPIC
    succcccccccked and in the next breath say that LZ rules?  This is an
    enigma wrapped up in a paradox and cloaked in bvllsh!t!
    
    And what the f()ck is a D^^K anyway?  Oh I see, a DORK I can live with
    that!  Sheeesh.
    
    
    GAZ

    You wouldn't know what a D^^k is anyway why should I tell you!
    
                        Frizkid

        
	    
    	Re: GAZ

	The reason Anthrax is worried about the "bandwagon" thing is 
    because they've been accused of it before.  I put a note in awhile 
    ago about this.

        What are they trying to achieve?  Probably nothing... they like 
    rap so they did a cover of a rap song as well as updating their own 
    rap song.
	
    
    Paul
        

    
    
    I went back a few replies and noticed people talking about "Bring the
    Noise" but no one seemed to mention how the recorded the song.
    
    The lifted the original voice tracks off the Public Enemy song,
    recorded their own music tracks and laid the original Public Enemy
    voice tracks down on top of their music.
    
    Basically "opposite" of what a lot of Rap groups do in their
    "sampling."
    
    The video's pretty cool, the song's great...of course, most Anthrax
    stuff is pretty good.
    
    kath
    
    

    WRONG!
    
    They had Chuck D. sit in with them, they even did some lyrics
    themselves towards the end...

    
    
    >WRONG!
    
    Well, then I believe you'd better start writing some letters to eMpTyV
    and quite a few of radio stations, 'pril.
    
    If someone's reporting it wrong, then misinformation has been VERY
    widespread.
    
    
    And anyway, even if Chuck D. did sit in with them, and even if they did
    lay down addition lyrics themselves, how does that negate the
    information I just posted?  Do you have proof-positive that they
    recorded the entire thing from scratch?
    
    I'm trying to figure out how people that actually are in the music
    business for a living can be so massively misinformed and how you seem
    to be the sole person I've heard who knows the truth..........
    
    What are you sources?
    
    kath

    
    
    Oh, I guess you're right.  Excuse me for reading the inlay. 8^P

    
    
    Well, perhaps we're both right, 'pril.
    
    
    kat

    perhaps??
    
    ~8)

    Hey Pril...
    
    Kat don be givin out any mis-information, so READ N HEED honey!

    Read and heed???  You been stealing my good lines!
    
    Some people...
    

    
    Anyone know when their [anthrax] next album is due out.
    
    
    
    CHRIS/BPR

    
    Attack just came out only what, a few months back?  You probably have a
    good wait in front of you...
    
    

Yeah, but that's an E.P.

    
    Yup. and they even say 'this is not the new Anthrax album'
    
    
    
    Chris/BPR

    
    another new ep?  i figured it was a  full album.  what do i know? ill
    shut up now :').
    
    

    
    Does anyone have anything on their new album....
    
    

    
    
    No, they told me to get my own album. 
    

    erf,erf!
    
    
    Chris, their newest album is still PoT, right?  
    
    'pril

    
    YUPS!

    PoT isn't that good,attack of the killer b's is infinately better. 
    
    
    
                                                 Staynz

    
    Are you nuts!!! :)
    
    PoT is there second best album (second only to ALT) I love Attack, but
    PoT is definetely better.
    
    Chris

    
    their best has to be "spreading the disease",none of this PoT hog wash!
    StD was an instant winner in my book while PoT has  still to grab
    me,the only song that hit home first time was "got the time" and they
    never wrote it.
    
    
    
                                                Staynz

    
    
    For your interest, the following two replies are about Charlie Benante. 
    The first, his car audio system and the secondis just an interview.
    
    

                  From Car Audio and Electronics: January 1992
        
                It was  one  of  those strange coincidences that make you
        wonder about telepathy.    The thrash-metal band Anthrax has just
        released "Attack Of The  Killer B's", so I called their publicist
        to get a copy of the CD for review.
                "I can't believe this!" the  publicist said.  "The band's
        drummer, Charlie Benante, has been asking  about  getting his car
        in your magizine.  I've been meaning  to go to a newsstand to get
        a copy so I could get the phone  number and contact you.  And now
        you're calling me!  This is weird."
                Shortly  afterward,  Benante  sent  us  snapshots  of the
        system in  his  1989  Nissan  Pathfinder,  which  is  suprisingly
        low-key.  This  is due to the fact Benante still lives at home in
        the Bronx, a part of New Your City known for its high crime rate.
                "Charlie's  very  aware of  theft,"  said  installer  Joe
        Cassano.   Together, Cassano and  Mike  Monterulo  of  Speedsport
        Tuning in Norwalk, Connecticut installed the  system in Benante's
        Pathfinder.
                According to the 27-year-old Benante, the design  of  the
        system was worked out between him and the  two  installers.   "It
        was  a bit of give and take," he recalled.    "I  mentioned  some
        things, then Mike came back with some things.  I told him exactly
        what I wanted to hear, so he told me how it could work."
        
                                Cockpit Controls:
        
                The system starts  with  a  Sony XTC-100 radio/CD-changer
        controller.  Benante said  he  recently  upgraded  to  this piece
        because of its removable face  plate.    "I  had the XR-7400, and
        then I switched to the 7500.    I  just couldn't take carrying it
        around anymore," he said of the pullout unit.
                Below  the head unit, mounted in a  blank  factory  panel
        beneath  the  dash,  is a Nakamichi EC-200 electronic  crossover.
        "We  installed  it  there  in between air-conditioner ducts;   we
        modified  the  ducts  to  we could slip the crossover in  between
        them," Cassano  said.   "Charlie likes to change crossover points
        between different kinds of music," he added.
                Just to the  left  of  the  head  unit,  next to Nissan's
        factory  foglight  switch,  a  Nakamichi  dual-amp  balancer  was
        installed.  The glass-break sensor's  microphone for the security
        system was also mounted in this  area.    Above  it,  the  on/off
        switch for a remote radar detector was  installed in a dash panel
        that originally held the LED for the factory security system.
                In  the  center  console,  next  to the emergency  brake,
        controls  for    an    AudioControl    ESP-3  center-channel  and
        spatial-image processor were  mounted.  The ESP-3 unit itself was
        mounted underneath the back seat.
                "Charlie wanted it there  for ease of operation," Cassano
        said of the ESP-3 controls.  "While he's driving, he doesn't have
        to take his hands off the  wheel;    he  can  just  feel  for the
        knobs."
        
                                  Higher Highs:
        
                One  thing  that  was  critical  to Benante  was  tweeter
        placement.    "Because Charlie plays on tour so  much  with  loud
        music", Cassano said, "he's a little light in hearing  the  highs
        as much as he would like to.  So we has to bring the highs up."
                Benante  agreed:  "I said, 'Look, maybe I am going  deaf,
        but  I  want to be able to hear the cymbals, the  high  hat,  the
        tambourine - all the highs.  I want to be able to  hear it really
        clear.'"
                A  pair  of Nakamichi SP-65C  6.5-inch  coaxials  dropped
        easily into the stock locations in  the  front  doors.  For added
        high  frequencies,  a  JBL T04 tweeter was  surface-mounted  just
        above each Nakamichi coaxial, on the door panel itself.
                "Mike hates them," Benante said of the JBL tweeters.  "He
        thinks they're too much, and he doesn't like the  way  it  looks;
        he doesn't like the way they stick out.  They're  not  flush with
        the doors.  I wanted to hear them, and I wanted  them to face me.
        I don't boost the treble up that much, but I like to  know that I
        have the room to do it."
                For a center  channel,  an  a/d/s/ 200i plate speaker was
        installed in the center  of  the dash.  Its grille was painted to
        match.   Rear fill is  provided  by  two  more  Nakamichi  SP-65C
        coaxials in the stock locations in  the  side panels of the cargo
        area.  "We took out the 6x9s that were there," Cassano explained,
        "and we made small cabinets for the 65C's  to  produce  a  little
        more bass."
        
                               Hidden CD Changer:
        
                A  Sony CDX-A100 CD changer was cleverly installed behind
        the side panel  of  the  cargo  area,  on  the  right side.  It's
        covered by a modified  factory  change  pocket  that  pops out to
        allow Benante to change disc magazines.
                "When we took the car  apart, I realized there was enough
        room in there to mount equipment,"  Cassano  explained.    "So  I
        thought it would be neat to put  the  changer  in  there  because
        Charlie is very aware of getting ripped off.
                "I was able to bury the changer in  there  and make it so
        he  can cover it up when it's not in  use.    I  took  apart  the
        factory change pocket, cut it down, and recovered it so  it's now
        about  a  third  the depth it was." To change disc magazines,  he
        said,  "you  take  out the pocket, put in your magazine, then put
        the pocket back in to cover it up."
        
                                Piano-Shaped Box:
        
                Since Benante listens  to a lot of rap, another important
        aspect of the system  was  the ability to produce low bass.  "The
        box in the back was  designed by Joe," Benante said.  "I told him
        I wanted to hear a lot of bass."
                "The way I hear things is  a little different," he added.
        "Playing the drums for so many years,  I'm  used to that top end,
        but still I want to FEEL alot of low end."
                The plan, Cassano said, was to build the  box  so that it
        would not be very noticeable from outside the car and would still
        allow Benante to use the cargo area to carry things like his drum
        kit.    Although  the box he designed occupies most of the  hatch
        floor,  it's only about 6 inches high.  It contains two Nakamichi
        SP-1010 10-inch  subwoofers,  each  in  its own ported enclosure,
        with 4-inch ports on either side of the box.
                "Charlie invited me  to  one of his shows, and I was able
        to get some ideas  for the box from all the equipment that was on
        stage - all the different  amplifiers  and  PA  systems," Cassano
        recalled.  "One of the opening  groups  has a big electric piano.
        By looking at that, I figured if  I  could fit that in the car, I
        could make the box look like that piano.    I even angled it down
        toward the back of the truck;  if you  look at the box, it slopes
        down on one side like the piano."
                power  is provided by two Nakamichi amplifiers - a PA-304
        and PA-301 - and a single Sony XM-5520 amplifier.  The  Nakamichi
        PA-304  was  mounted  under  the driver's seat, and the PA-301 is
        attached to  the right rear side panel of the cargo aream next to
        the tailgate.
                "The 301 powers  just the two subs," Cassano pointed out.
        "It's in mono configuration.    Bridged for those two subs, it'll
        push 240 watts.  The  concept  was  to build a loud enough, clear
        enough  sound system, without using a  lot  of  amplifiers."  The
        PA-304 drives the door and rear side-wall  speakers, and the Sony
        amp powers the center-channel speaker, he added.
                Like  the  CD  changer,  the small Sony amp  was  mounted
        behind the side wall of the cargo area, but on the opposide side.
        "We  also  did  some  venting  work to keep the amplifier  cool,"
        Cassano  said.   "Most cars already have a venting syste, through
        the doors.    So  what we did was modify that so there's some air
        flowing through there."
        
                               Elaborate Security:
        
        A VSE Derringer/2  forms the basis for the Pathfinder's elaborate
        security system.  Besides  the  routine security measures such as
        pin-switches,  sensors,  and  flashing lights,  the  system  also
        employs  attention-getting  air horns and micro-switches  on  the
        door handles.  
                "They're    aircraft-type    microswitches    that    are
        waterproof,"  Cassano explained.    "If  anyone  tries  the  door
        handles, it'll sound the air horns until they let go."
                A K40 UN-900 radar  detector  was  also  installed in the
        Pathfinder.    The LED indicators  that  provide  the  detector's
        visual    warning   were  incorporated  into  the    Pathfinder's
        speedometer,  and the piezo buzzer for the  audible  warning  was
        mounted to the B pillar on the driver's side.
                Nakamichi signal cable was used to connect the components
        together,  and  Esoteric  Audio's  Street  Wires  power cable and
        speaker wire was used elsewhere.
        
                                Always Upgrading:
        
        According  to  Monterulo, Benante only recently got hooked on car
        audio - but, like many of us, he's hooked for good.  "At first he
        really wasn't into  it  that  much," Monterulo remembered.  "Then
        when he got the  Pathfinder,  he  was  like,  'I don't want to go
        crazy;  I just want  cassette and CD.' Then he wanted subwoofers.
        Then the ESP-3.  He just  keeps  upgrading.    By  this time next
        year, the system will probably be totally different."
        
    

                            Hear the Drummer Get Wicked
                         (Interview with Charlie Benante)
        
        What kind of music do you listen  to when you're cruising in your
        Pathfinder?
        
                There are three different styles, actually.  One is a lot
                of rap.  Another is just hard rock, and  another style, I
                can't  really  classify  it  as pop, but it leans towards
                that, like Madonna.  I just like to feel it.
        
        Who are some of your favorite bands?
        
                I never take out this one CD that's been in my  car since
                I got  the  car,  and  that's  the  Beastie  Boys' Paul's
                Botique.  It's  amazing.    Whenever  I  put  it  on  and
                someone's in the car, they can't help moving a little.
        
        What else?
        
                There's a couple of  Depeche Mode things in there.  Every
                one of their records just  sounds  amazing.  Then for the
                hard rock stuff, I've been listening  to  this  new band,
                Alice  In  Chains.   They're good.   I  throw  on  Slayer
                sometimes.  But I have to change the  EQ  on  everything.
                If I listen to rap, I have to lower  the  bass;  it's too
                much.
        
        For you, how is listening in the car different from  listening at
        home or in the studio?  What are the differences that  you  find,
        being a professional musician?
        
                See,  that's the whole thing.  I can't listen to music at
                home because  the  phone's always ringing.  I can't enjoy
                it.  So  for  me, to get out and drive and just listen, I
                enjoy it.  Get  out  on  the  highway, put it on, I don't
                care.
        
        When you're writing a song  or  recording  it,  do you ever think
        about how it might sound in the car?
        
                Yeah, 'cause when I had the  cassette  and  the CD in the
                car - now I don't have cassette  anymore - I used to take
                what we did that night [in the studio]  and  go  out  and
                listen to it in the car.  Then I'd come back the next day
                and  say,  "Listen, there's not that much bass on there."
                Or  maybe,  "There's  too  much  bass.   I don't hear the
                guitars enough."
        
        What's car  audio  like  where  you live, in the Bronx?  A lot of
        people cruising around at night booming?
        
                Yeah, like the  kids  into disco or whatever.  It's funny
                how sometimes they'll pull  up  alongside  you with their
                windows down, blasting their radios,  and  it sounds like
                sh*t.    It's  just  weird  how  some  people  can  think
                something sounds so good, but then you  listen  to it and
                it sounds so bad.  They try to  play  it  loud,  but it's
                just breaking up.  It's all distorted and everything.
        
        You  guys  did  a  version of Public Enemy's "Bring  The  Noise."
        Obviously you like rap.
        
                I like a lot of rap.  I've always liked it.  There;s some
                rap  I  don't  like.    I  like  Public Enemy, of course,
                because they  were  the  first  ones to come out and just
                bring out the  element of noise into rap.  I thought that
                was amazing the way they just took things.

                I think it was  Chuck  or one of their producers who said
                that  when  they make a  record,  it's  sort  of  like  a
                paste-up  artist;    they'll take pieces  from  here  and
                pieces from there and just put it  all  together  as one.
                To me, that's how it should be done.

                A lot of rap bands just take a  beat.   They just steal a
                beat, but they don't do anything with it.   They just let
                it  play.   That's why I like Public Enemy and  bands  of
                that  nature, because they'll take just a piece and add -
                make more an art out of it instead of just stealing it.
        
        As opposed to something like Hammer's "U Can't Touch This," where
        he just uses Rick James' "Super Freak" riff throughout?
        
                It's such  a blatant rip-off.  Because the song was a hit
                already, so people  know  it.  So, of course, everybody's
                going to say, "Oh,  I like that," because it's like a new
                generation that's listening to the song.
        
        You're about to start a tour with Public Enemy.  How do you think
        Anthrax fans will relate to Public Enemy and vice versa?
        
                Well, I can only tell you what I've seen.  When we played
                Madison  Square  Garden,  Public  Enemy came out  on  the
                encore, and the whole place went crazy.  So if that's any
                indication of how it's going to be, I think it'll be fun.
        
        
    

    Anthrax will release a home video and a live EP from the Bring The
    Noise tour in March. A new studio album is set for later this year.
    
                    Frizkid
    

    
    These guys are lazy. 

    
    re: Chris
    
    Bull$#@& they are! They make Metallica look like the pansies that
    they are! Metallica have sold out! Anthrax will never sell out!
    They will always rool REAL Metal.

    
    No. They will always rool REAL RapMetal.
    
    Look I love Anthrax with a passion. But they'll never produce such an
    album as AtL. I know, Metallica will never put out another like
    RtL...true, but at least they won't produce such a horrid effort as
    SoE.
    
    

    
    	RE: Pete
    
    	I had heard that a lot of people felt Anthrax sold out by
    	going along the rap scene... that they weren't "real"
    	metal, etc. etc.
    
    	I suppose it's all in what you enjoy.
    
    	tigg~~~~

    
    If people think Metallica sold out to commercialism then the same
    people should think that Anthrax sold out to the pop/rap scene.
    

    Their last album was nothing like that.  
    
    		Anthrax RULZ!  8)
    
    Personally, I think they are WAY heavier than Metallica these days. 
    Key word being *these* days...
    
    'pril

    
    Anthrax is not a Rap/Metal band. By saying so you lose all credibility.

    
    'pril snuck one in on me! I agree April!

    Do I lose creditablity if I say both blow? 8) Kidding.
    
                 Today is Dan Spitz's birthday!
    
            Frizkid
    

    Man, he is one fine-a$$ mo-fo! 
    
    	Happy Birthday Dan Spitz!

    
    I really hate the way they're labeled a rap/metal band because they
    put out a couple rap/metal tunes.

    Yeah, I know!  Two whole songs that are thrashy at that.  

Re -1  If the cap fits....


  I like Anthrax a lot, but I think they have taken this metal rap thing quite
  far enough now!  Lets have them produce something mainstream metal, fast
  and biting like in the past!

  Otherwise their reputation is going to continue going downhill.  Rap wont
  last much longer in my not so humble opinion!


GAZ

    Please Gaz!  Are you forgetting Persistence of Time?

Nope, not forgetting nuffink!  PoT is a great album, definitely on my classics
list, but I don't like what they are doing with pubic enema!  I think it is 
even worse than selling out!


GAZ

    Well, it's a thing of the past as far as I'm concerned.  I could do
    without it too. 

    
    I like what they've done, and I say Anthrax totally ROOLZ(tm).

    
    Well Rapthrax used to have my utmost respect. All the way up through
    PoT which was fantastic. As long as this is a one time thing, maybe
    I'll start givin' back the respect they lost. But from what I heard,
    'Thrax plans on doing more covers.

    
    What's wrong with that?
    
    Rapthrax? You should be beaten and whipped! Your skin peeled off
    and thrown in salt water! Forced to have sex with Roseanne Barr!
    
    It's one EP. Get a grip!

    
    	RE: It's one EP.  Get a grip!
    
    	I dunno... seems like there've been a lot of bands who've
    	put out that ONE single or that ONE album that makes or
    	breaks their reputation and loses the respect of their
    	fans.
    
    	tigg~~~

    
    Yeah, I know what you mean, but true fans are beyond believing the
    prejudices surrounding certain styles of music. Some people are
    just too close minded.

    And furthermore, if "fans" are going to let ONE or TWO songs change
    their opinion of a band, they weren't really fans anyway!  I'm sure
    Anthrax couldn't care less if they lose a few "fans" because they chose
    to follow their musical interests.  so thair 8-P!

    

    
    }} Yeah, I know what you mean, but true fans are beyond believing the
    }} prejudices surrounding certain styles of music. Some people are
    }} just too close minded.
    
    	Pete, Do you mind if I cross-post this in the Metallica topic?
    

    }} And furthermore, if "fans" are going to let ONE or TWO songs change
    }} their opinion of a band, they weren't really fans anyway!  I'm sure
    }} Anthrax couldn't care less if they lose a few "fans" because they chose
    }} to follow their musical interests.  so thair 8-P!
    
    
    	Tell that to the opposers in the Metallica topic.
    
    
    and futhermore Mister Cook, it has been TWO eps that rapthrax has
    released that contain cRAP influences.
    
    

    
    I know they put out two.

    
    just statin' the facts... 8-)

    Oh woopee, so Anthrax puts out two songs with a rap influence, so what? 
    Does that change the rest of their stuff?  No.  
    
    Metallica's entire new album sounds different then their old stuff, I
    don't see how anyone could compare these two situations.
    
    I have a lot of respect for Anthrax, they play what they want to play
    and they don't concern themselves with people that are so biased that
    they can't see past a couple of things they don't like.
    
    I don't like rap either, but I do like Anthrax.  They've held true to
    their principles and their sound and they still do it well.
    
    gh

    
> I have a lot of respect for Anthrax, they play what they want to play
> and they don't concern themselves with people that are so biased that
> they can't see past a couple of things they don't like.
    
> I don't like rap either, but I do like Anthrax.  They've held true to
> their principles and their sound and they still do it well.
    
 	WELL said Greg! Bravo!  Chris, you should be ashamed of yourself!!
    				8-)
    
    	-plh	

    
    I bow my head in silence.
    
    When Greg puts me down I listen. 8-)
    
    But seriously I have a tremendous amount of respect for Anthrax and all
    the members are really cool. And yes they can play whatever pleases
    them. but I was trying to proove a point. How can one say Metallica
    sucks for going commercial, when they say that, Oh Anthrax is just
    showing their appreciation to rap. So, Metallica is just showing their
    appreciating for more groove and less speed. Big Deal.

    One of the many reasons Greg got Noter Of The Year!

    
    yes I bow before he, oh mighty noter extraordinaire!
    
    :-)

    I would never call Anthrax a rap metal band but Pot was no where near
    as good as attack of the killer b's
    
    
                                      Staynz
    

    Yeah, Chris, get up, they're not done beating you yet!

    
    It's Greg's overwhelming power...but thanks to my trusted allies I have
    regained my equilireum (I spelled that wrong didn't I?)
    
    Rapthrax is heading more toward the cRAP society... I can't believe
    they had record scrathing in one of their songs!

    
> Rapthrax is heading more toward the cRAP society... I can't believe
> they had record scrathing in one of their songs!
    
    No they are not. That is your opinion, not fact.

    
    Look pete, when are you going to realize my opinion IS fact.
    
    
    
    
    ;')

    
    Never! NOT! Nyet! Nada!

  CC Duluth writes:
        
>> Rapthrax is heading more toward the cRAP society... I can't believe
>> they had record scrathing in one of their songs!
  
    Then feel_the_heat_Pete responded:
      
    >No they are not. That is your opinion, not fact.
    
    Hate to say it. but CC is right...Rapthrax are destined to tour with
    Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch!  I can see it now...Danny Spitz is just
    Marky's type!!  8^)

    
    No way dude!!! Their next release will be sumpremely roolin.
    
    It's just an EP!! Big deal!

    
    but that EP evovled into a tour. and BtN is also on Public Enemy's
    Apocolypse '91 album...
    
    Marky Mark and the Thraxy bunch
    C and A music factory
     the list goes on and on...

    
    Chris, give it a rest. You are WRONG!

    
    Wrong about what...
    
    Is it not true that Anthrax toured with PE. Is it not true they
    collaborated on not only a song but video.
    
    What about Shott/Charlie/and Frank's choices for top albums of 1990
    ALL RAP!
    
    

    
    So they like rap. They like punk and hardcore too.
    
    Steve Harris likes Jethro Tull. Big deal.
    
    

    
    
    	To all those who don't like Anthrax's rap stuff, I'm glad you 
    haven't heard their collaboration with UTFO.  Anthrax has done more 
    than two rap songs.  But big deal... rap kicks!... 'specially Public
    Enemy.
    
    	I think in the Metallica note someone wondered who wrote Anthrax's
    lyrics?... Scott does most if not all of 'em.  
    
    
    Paul
                                          

    Rap has a considerably small market - Thrash has a considerably small
    market...smaller than other types of music, so their tours aren't as
    immense, but there are a hell of alot of people out there that like it.  
    Anthrax and PE teamed up, not just for Bring the Noise, but to take the 
    music to the people, bro'.  At least, that's what my mate Flav said.
    
    BTW, they were superb together, although they should have dumped the
    support and played longer sets.
    
    Flip

So long as the fans like it, and I mean both sets of fans, then it is probably
a good thing!

HOWEVER, I personally don't like it!  If rap were to go legs up tomorrow, I for
one would grieve not a piece!

I will certainly hesitate from buying any future Anthrax album until I have 
read reviews stating there is no rap present!

I know this sounds close minded, but frankly I don't give a damn!


GAZ

    
    
    I think Public Enemy is cool!
    
    Theres nothing wrong with trying to mix different types of music for
    fun, especially when it brings together great musical forces and
    promotes peace among racially biased fans.
    
    
    Chris its all a matter of opinion.  When you make these comparisons,
    and say A band is better than B band therefore because of bla bla bla
    its still your opinion, its not fact.
    
    
    Goddess F.

    
    
    I like 'Thrax and Metallica... sorta hard to pick who I like most...
    I tend to slide toward Metallica cuz they have more material out..
    
    
    I want a new Anthrax Album!! com'on guys!!!!

>    I think Public Enemy is cool!
    
    ...long as yer not Flav's girlfriend.

    
    If she was she would always no what time it was...
    
    Re: F.
    
    	Yes it is my opinion. I never said it wasn't.

    I fink Anthrax are the biz. They went a bit wobbly with State Of
    Euphoria,but are back on the trail with PoT.
    
    As for the rap,well they`ve done 2 re-mixes of "I`m The Man" and
    "Bring The Noise" out of a collection of,what,30 or 40 songs? Big
    deal.
    

    Awa' an' shite.In my *personal* opinion,PoT is not as good as Euphoria.
    The only song I really enjoy from PoT is got the time.
    
    
                                                           Staynz

    
    Euphoria!!!!???!!!????!??!??!?
    
    That had to be one of the worst albums in Metal History.... the only
    worth mentioning songs are Anti-Social (which they didn't even write)
    and Who Cares Wins, a songthey did as an alternative to doing a ballad.
    

    No way Euphoris rools!!the PoT is dross!!
    
    
                                               Staynz

    FWIW, I liked State of Euphoria quite a lot!  Sounded like Anthrax to
    me...
    
    gh

    I like all their releases!

    SoE was an atrosity. anthrax should be ashamed to have it in their
    history.

    Chris:Why are you so down on SOE?  Give some reasons...
    
               Frizkid
    

    
    Well after AtL and StD I wasn't expecting such a poorly written album.
    riffs are blurred and it's more like recycled tunes than anything new.
    No song except  Anti-Social and Who Cares Wins stick out. Anti-Social
    because of it's MTV airplay and WCW because of the controversy. The
    rest of the songs are just a bunch of riffs thrown together. (Although
    I must admit I liked the violin at the begining) 
    
    Listen to Madhouse then listen to Schism. see.
    

    
    Oky, I did, and I don't see your point, from a song writers point of
    view either.

    Chris,
    
          Are you judging how good a song is by it Mtv airplay and
    controversy?  Sad.  I thought you were above that...
    
                          Frizkid
    

    What controversy?  First I've heard of it.
    
    gh

    
    Sure, SoE is a good album, but not when you comapre it to their other
    releases.
    
    flip

    
    	IMO, SoE is the most listenable-to Anthrax album, from a "noise"
    	perspective.
    
    
    							GTI

    
    
    SoE... CRANKS... Thats all there is to it... ;')

    
    I give up...  ;')
    
    SoE is their worst album IMHO......
    
    Listenable??? I HATE listening to it. i program it for 3 songs then
    change the cd. Boring to sing along to, with the exception of
    AntiSocial. 
    
    RE: Pete
    
    	but did you really... ;')
    
    Re: Greg
    
    	Mtv refused to play Who Cares Wins video because "It was too
    depressing"
    
    Re: Frizboob
    
    	I don't judge anything by MTV. MTV makes a song/video more
    accesible to the general populace. Anti-Social went to number 7 on dial
    MTV. That songs is a crankin' tune. But if the album was so good, how
    come it barely broke gold? It was the first 'pop' type album they had.
    I mean, sponsored tour by MTV and everything. Yet people like me refuse
    to listen to the whole album because I don't think they put any effort
    into it.
    
    

    I drink three six-packs just so I can look at your face!

    
    >> I drink three six-packs just so I can look at your face!
    
    	Thanks... 8-|

    
    Time to live your dreams! (and I am!)

    Don't quote me but,I heard something to the effect that the group
    was gonna be in an upcoming episode of"Married with children".
    
                                  Crazy_Wouldn't_doubt_it_Al
                                   

    
    Bud: Kelly look, there's a bunch of white guys rapping...
    Kelly: Third bass?
    Al: C.M.B.?
    Bud: It's Anthrax...
    
    

    
    
    Ya, they are.. I saw an interview with them on MTV... said something
    about Kelly winning a contest to spend a weekend or something with
    Anthrax.. by the end of the weekend Anthrax just about had it with
    AL and wants out... But I could be wrong.. I was half asleep when I
    heard it...... %'|

    
    >> AL and wants out... But I could be wrong.. I was half asleep when I
    >> heard it...... %'|                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       ^^^^^^^^
    
    	Oh you were listening to SoE while this interview was going on....

    
    
    Nope, Iron Maiden.... ;')

    You Escargo, see my analogy of how Metallica is a good album but not
    quite as good as other Metallica stuff and how if someone else woulda done
    it it'd be much better. Mebbe this applies to SoE IYO. 
    
    
    
    I liked SoE by the way.                              

    
    Basically I was unimpressed with SoE... that's it..
    
    

    ><<< Note 126.95 by PFLOYD::ROTHBERG "Warning, warning, warning . . ." >>>
    >
    >
    >            N.F.V.?????? Gotta love it!!
    
    Sue from Cherry Hill loved it...she bought it!  8^)
    
    Buck, headed that way tomorrow

      Anthrax was on Maried... With Children tonight.  Bud Buddy won
    a "Party With Anthrax" contest.  They ship Peg and Al to Florida
    for the weekend and they have a bash but...  Chicago gets 5ft of 
    snow dumped on them.  No one can get to the party so it was just
    Bud, Kelly, Marci and Anthrax.  Anthrax go into the fridge and take
    out what's called "the Mystery Dinner" and eat it.  They get all 
    drugged out and they put on a show.  Al comes home and says, why 
    are there five guys in leather sitting in the front yard.  Kelly  
    said the Board of Health came and quarantined the house and Anthrax 
    has to stay at their house for 6 months....
    
    BJ

    
    
    	RE: .435
    
    	I know.. Mega )8
    
    	Happened to catch the show though...was ..err interesting.
    	
    	tigg~~~

    
    
    
    	Re: Charlie's do...
    
    
    	He had it cut when they played the Orpheum with PE.  He left a
    rat tail.

    married with children rools!
    
    
    staynz

    Married With Anthrax!

    geez,it'll be yonks until we get it on tv here,we're still at stuff
    from 1989...!!One of the funniest shows on tv and a credit to its
    writers.
    
    
    staynz

    
    Here is Scott Ian of Anthrax top ten picks taken without permission
    from Rolling Stone Magazine, Issue 625.
    
    
    1.  Public Enemy, Apocalypse 91---The Enemy Strikes Black:  A PE 
        release is always a major even in my life because it'll basically
        rule my disc and tape players until the next PE release.  They 
        never disappoint.  Since 1986 they've been my favorite group, and
        *Apocalypse* is another level above all of their previous releases.
        It's so immediate.  "Lost at Birth" is the heaviest intro ever.  
        What can I say, they f(ckin' rule.  I'm an unabashed fan, and 
        nothing else even comes close.  PE in effect...boyeee!!!
    
    2.  Alice in Chains, Facelift:  Simplicity at its heaviest.  'Nuff
        said.
    
    3.  Andrew "Dice" Clay, Dice Rules:  The album title says it all.
        I can see all of you Dice bashers sitting in your closets late
        at night with headphones on, laughing.
    
    4.  Madonna, The Immaculate Collection:  Our sound man, George, who
        hates Madonna, loved this record.  I already love Madonna, so my
        feelings about the record are, are, are...words cannot describe.
    
    5.  Fishbone, The Reality of My Surroundings:  This record was not
        as immediately appealing to me as *Truth and Soul*.  I actually
        didn't listen to this album for about three months, but I 
        always found myself humming bits and pieces until I finally played
        the record again, and man, now I can't stop.
    
    6.  Urban Dance Squad, Mental Relapse:  The Dancetaria version of 
        "Fastlane" really, really makes me move.
    
    7.  James Brown, Star Time:  Some things never get old.  This
        collection is missing one song; where's "The Grunt"?!
    
    8.  "Diane, the Twin Peaks Tapes of Agent Cooper," Soundtrack From
        Twin Peaks:  It's mandatory to drink a lot of coffee while 
        listening to this as long as it hasn't been anywhere near fish.
    
    9.  Slayer, Decade of Aggression:  The best live album since Kiss 
        Alive.
    
    10. Anthrax, Attack of the Killer B's:  Normally, I wouldn't put 
        one of our own records, but "Bring the Noise" was one of my
        best - if not *the* best - times I've had being in Anthrax.
    

    Buck Reviewz Anthrax:
    
    >1.  Public Enemy, Apocalypse 91---The Enemy Strikes Black:
    
    ROOLIN

    >2.  Alice in Chains, Facelift:

    COOLIN
    
    >3.  Andrew "Dice" Clay, Dice Rules: 
    
    STOOLIN (offensive!)
    
    >4.  Madonna, The Immaculate Collection: 
    
    ROOLIN

    >5.  Fishbone, The Reality of My Surroundings:
    
    N/A
    
    >6.  Urban Dance Squad, Mental Relapse:

    STOOLIN
    
    >7.  James Brown, Star Time:
    
    ROOLIN
   
    >8.  "Diane, the Twin Peaks Tapes of Agent Cooper," 

    N/A
    
    >9.  Slayer, Decade of Aggression: 

    DROOLIN
    
    >10. Anthrax, Attack of the Killer B's
    
    COOLIN

    
    
    Why did belledonna leave Anthrax???
    
    
    wendy o'
    
    

    
    Maybe he got sick of havin' to dance at all the bands rehersals.
    
    
    
    
    ;')

    
    
    naw.. he prosbly got sick of the tudes (posuers :*)) and 
    coundlt take the glare off the top of IAN's head. :*)
    
    
    
    
    

    
    
    The rest of the beand probably made him wear Raiders Clothing.
    
    
    
    ;')z
    
    

    
    That's probably what Joey said when thhe rest of the members said:
    
    "let's make a rap album. That's forget this Heavy metal thing"
    
    

    
    Rob reviews Ian's choices and find's them very excellent!!!
    
    
    1.  Public Enemy, Apocalypse 91---The Enemy Strikes Black:  A PE 

        ROOLIN!!

    
    2.  Alice in Chains, Facelift:  Simplicity at its heaviest.  'Nuff
        said.

        COOLIN!
    
    3.  Andrew "Dice" Clay, Dice Rules:  The album title says it all.
    
        ROOLIN!!!

    4.  Madonna, The Immaculate Collection:  Our sound man, George, who
    
        ROOLIN!!!

    5.  Fishbone, The Reality of My Surroundings:  This record was not

        COOLIN!
    
    6.  Urban Dance Squad, Mental Relapse:  The Dancetaria version of 

        COOLIN!

    7.  James Brown, Star Time:  Some things never get old.  This

        STOOLIN!
    
    8.  "Diane, the Twin Peaks Tapes of Agent Cooper," Soundtrack From

        N/A
    
    9.  Slayer, Decade of Aggression:  The best live album since Kiss 
        
        ROOLIN!!!

    10. Anthrax, Attack of the Killer B's:  Normally, I wouldn't put 

        COOLIN!
    

    
    
    Alas, another band down the tubes... 

    
    
    Ya, right.. Like I said before, you get rid of the voice of the
    band, the band is no more! I'm not saying they don't have a chance
    at sounding great.. I'm just sayin, Anthrax they will no longer be!!

    
    
    i dont get it... why is he no more?  initial impressions here are that
    the label asked him to leave...  that would be foolish...
    

    
    Who knows... but he's a cool dude. He'll be missed.

    I didn`t know he`d left.
    
    Wot`s the official word,and any news on his replacement??
    

    I won't believe Joey's gone until McCarron says it's so!!
    
    Well...Paul?
    
    -Stevie D

    That's it!  Paul is Joey Belladonna!  I *knew* there was something
    familiar about him!
    
    ;^)

    
    
    YUK!!!!!!!!!

    
    
    YA! thats it!!! Joey left to join Motley Crue!! .. NOT! ;') That would
    be funny..... 

    The music industry is becoming a lot like pro sports. 
    
    "Yeh, I'll trade you our drummer and a singer to be named later for
    your all world bassist and 6 groupies. 

    
    	Re: Greg
    
    >>That's it!  Paul is Joey Belladonna!  I *knew* there was something
    >>familiar about him!
    >>;^)
	
	Yup it's true... and don't say anything but I've got an appointment
    with the Crue next month to talk things over and see what can be worked
    out.  Don't tell anyone though.  We don't want this to be leaked to the 
    press. ;^)

    	

	Re: Steve

    >>I won't believe Joey's gone until McCarron says it's so!!
    >>Well...Paul?

	Wow... nice to see I carry so much weight. 8^)

	Unfortunately, when Scott got divorced from my friend Marge I lost 
    contact with the band... so as far as Joey leaving... if MTV says so 
    then it must be true. ;^)  It doesn't surprise me.  I have a feeling 
    the band is looking for a "harsher" vocal style.

	
    Paul

    I thougth Joey was well cool.Anthrax are gradually loosing it.He was
    probably lobbed out due to the fact he was the only one who wasn't into
    rap as much..........then again,Ihaven't got a f*ckin' clue!
    
                                                   Staynz

    Maybe DLR will join?

    
    When I met Joey he was one of the cool ones. Scott and Charlie sorta
    bumped me. 

    
    Hey quick question for any Die Hard Anthrax fans.
    
    
    Where did Rapthrax get the idea for "I'm The Man"
    
    
    
    
    Chris_who_knows_the_answer

    The Rodney Dangerfield movie called "Easy Money".........a very amusing
    movie!
    
    
    
                                             Staynz

    
    Hey, give the scot a cookie.
    
    "I'm the man"
    "I'm bad"
    "I'm so bad.... I should be in detention"
    
    -Taylor Negron from the movie _Easy Money_
    
    

    I'm bad,I'm so bad etc!!
    
    
    Staynz..............I saw this movie in Florida!
    

    
    This month RapThrax are releasing a Live Ep and home video of the
    PE/Rapthrax collaboration tour. 
    
    
    Yuk.
    
    

    
    	'ERS gave out info last night on how to audition for the open spot.
    

    Yo Escargo, 
    
    I seen that movie, that guy in the bush was killing me. 
    
    
    "Go on tell her your angry"
    "I'm angry"
    "tell her your the man"
    "I'm the man!"
    
    Had me in stitches!

    
    There was an announcement in one of the magazines this morning that
    Anthrax have a new singer.  John somebody - ex armoured saint?
    
    Can't remember.

    NO FACKIN' WAY!!!!!!!
    
     WOW!
     Frizkid
    

    from what I've read about this guy,he was once tipped to take over from
    Hetfield in Metallica when Jaymez was pissed off with guitar and
    singing.The guy wanted to stay with Armoured Saint as he thought he 
    could make it big with them!
    
    
                                                  Staynz

    I remember when Metallica had a little 4 line bit in Kerrang! magazine
    which said "Bay Area band Metallica are looking for a singer. Send
    demo`s etc to ...."
    
    How about that for a memory? (This must have been late '83).
    

    Anyone (Paul :*) ??? ) hear why JO'e ` belledonna left the band??
    
    
    		wendy o'
    
      

    Musical differences.......
    
              Frizkid
    

    
    	Ahhh, so Joey wants to take off on his own, form a real band,
    	and do some good music, and the rest of Anthrax will tough it
    	out and continue doing what they have been [whatever that is]?
    
    	[smile!!]
    
    							GTI

    Wow, no replies here for almost a year!
    
    I saw the new Anthrax vid with Testament's singer (Chuck Billy?) on
    vocals.  It was pretty good!  Sounded a lot like Testament... I think
    they changed their style a bit to fit his voice.
    
    Has anyone else heard that Chuck Billy would be Anthrax's new singer?
    Who's singing for Testament now?
    
    |KS|
    

    I thought it was the singer from Armoured Saint....and I haven't heard
    that Testament has a new singer....they're playing at Axis Wed. night
    with Green Jello......
    
    :), d

    Oh yeah, you're right!!!!   What was I thinking of?!    It was Armoured
    Saint's singer....
    

    ...re:-1...........Today??............................;'))............/k

>    Oh yeah, you're right!!!!   What was I thinking of?!    It was Armoured
>    Saint's singer....
 
    Bloody good thing too, I can't *stand* Chuck Billy from Testament.   
    
    gh

    re: can't stand Chuck Billy
    
    why? He's better than Belladonna.

    His voice grates on me.  It's been awhile since I listened to
    Testament, so I don't remember exactly what it was, but it bothered me
    badly enough that it was a very strong memory.  Guess I could dig out
    "Souls of Black" and listen to it again to see, I think I still have
    my copy.
    
    To his credit, there's a song off their new album that's been getting
    some airplay around here, and I don't remember the vocals bothering me
    on that one, so maybe his style's changed somewhat or something.
    
    gh

    re: /k..... yes, today only.  Why do you ask?  :')
    
    re: Greg....    Souls of Black was awful!!!  I only like the last 3
    songs.  They only had like 5 weeks to do it in, or so they said.
    
    |KS|

    re: myself re: Mike
    
    I guess I didn't point out that I actually liked Joey's voice, in the
    context of Anthrax.  Yeah, perhaps it wouldn't work well elsewhere, but
    I liked him with Anthrax.
    
    re: Ken
    
    Hmm...Souls was the only album of theirs that I ended up getting.  If
    it's not representative, what's another one that is?
    
    gh

    
    Greg the new song is Return To Serenity. Doesn't even sound like him.
    (Great song too)
    
    As for Anthrax. They're a bunch of hypocrites. They have a ballad on
    the new album. I was reading their RIP interview from when Attack came
    out and they said that heavy metal bands that put out ballads aren't
    "expanding" but are seling out. Yet, I have a recent magazine from this
    month that says the song "only" is Anthrax "expanding" their horizons.
    
    

    Greg, their latest one is pretty good, and so is the one that has a
    cover of Aerosmith's "Nobody's Fault".    But... I can't think of the
    names of either of them!!!   Maybe Chris knows? (Welcome back dude!)
    
    |KS|
    

    
    Nobody's Fault is on "The New Order"
    
    The Legacy
    The New Order
    Practice What You Preach
    Souls Of Black
    The Ritual
    Return To Apocolyptic City
    
    Legacy is awesome, so isn't Practice. The rest are pretty good,
    

    Well now that the album names are there for me to see, I was referring
    to The New Order, and The Ritual.

    The New Order is an awesome CD!! It's the only Testament CD I have and
    one of my favorites....the guitar is really beautiful..
    
    :), d<

    Testament sux!

    I thought Joey was a reet excellant singer....Chuck Billy grunts!!
    
    
                                                  staynz

    I met Joey a couple a years ago. Was a cool dude in person. I think
    he's a much better vocalist than Busch.
    
    

    Did he come over for dinner too? 

    
    Yes, but he did not stay for desert.
    
    
    

    aye but Nuno eat his!!  8)
    
    
                                                staynz

    I can't enter the original reply I wanted to here coz a) I can't prove
    it, and b) I'd probably have a visit from the net police for my
    thoughts on Nuno eating his... so I'll leave it at that!
    
    Bonz (I can feel the weekend approaching... unfortunately it's got
    D.I.Y. in the air....8*(
    
    

    Last night I saw/heard the new Anthrax single with their new singer and was
    very impressed.The song is called "only" and is excellant.Charlie has
    cropped off all his hair and Scott Ian was playing a Charvel
    Surfcaster(for all you guitar fanatics out there)
    
    
                                            

    Bogus!  A surfcaster??
    
    Brrr...
    :-)

    Yup......complete with mother of toilet seat pick gaurd!!!
    
    
     damn near barfed when I saw it!  8)
    
    
    

    
    
    
    Decent tune, doesn't sound like 'thrax one bit though.. 

    
    I think Charlie has actually learned to play the drums.
    
    prc is gonna be shattered.
    
    

>    I think Charlie has actually learned to play the drums.
    
    He musta been having a good day...  ;^)
    
    I heard the song on the radio this weekend, pretty decent.  But I have
    to agree with the Whit-mon, it doesn't sound like Anthrax at all.
    
    gh

    Any release date for the album?
    
    Some decent lyrics for once n`all.
    

    
    i think it's May 21st.
    
    

    on friday night I was driving through Glasgow(before the bomb warnings)
    and heard Anthrax do a cover version of the Cowboy song by Thin Lizzy!
    I couldn't get over how *close* it resembled the original.FWIW I like
    the new singer,it's just a pity that I couldn't get to see them when
    I'm over!!
    
               

    So...
    
    how was the show Friday?

    I`ve got "Sound of white noise" and i rate it.
    
    Much better lyrics than the previous albums,and plenty of fast stuff
    on it n`all. Though i`ve got a feeling it`s not going to sell very
    well,(though i could be wrong).
    

    
    show was RULIN!!
    
    i have sound of white noise as well... only i havent listened to it
    yet.
    

    ...it was great!...i leave it to the others to write a review of all
    the songs they played..i'll just tell you the social stuff...we pulled
    up to axis in the limo about 10 minutes after the show started....
    and immediately split up........Ian headed straight for the front of 
    the stage..which was no small feat as the place was packed....jim stood
    cooly by the sound board and danielle and i had the best seats in the
    house, sitting at the end of the bar nearest the stage..........rob
    was in the pit for a while and came out a soaken mess occasionally where
    i fed him small sips of my drink so he wouldn't dehydrate entirely...
    (he wanted large sips of my drink but that of course was out of the
    question).................ian, got kicked in the head and at one point
    someone in the pit was being passed over his head and the guy sat on
    his face..Ian said he didn't like that....;')...it all boiled down to him
    losing a contact lens...probably when he got kicked in the head....
    and receiving several other multiple contusions and lacerations....he 
    found me at the end of the of the show and looked like a cat who'd been 
    put in the washing machine.....;")....but not as pleasantly fragrant.,,.
    we made him stand outside to dry out before allowing him  back in the limo.
    ...........all in all, a good time was had by all........................
    ........../k

    re. looked like a cat who'd been put in the washing machine.....;")
    
    Is it as bad as they look after a *spin* in the dryer?  ;-)
    

    
    
    
    RE:-1
    
    
    Nope, Ian didn't look fluffy..

    
    
    I still have a bruise on my arm from that night...........!
    
    
    
    wildest concert I've been too.  8)
    
    
                                                 ian

    I heard a new Anthrax song on the radio awhile back, and I swear I
    thought it was Alice In Chains until it was over and the DJ said who it
    was.  I'm amazed that their sound has changed so much.  Is all the new
    album like this?
    
    gh

    was it the single "only",its a total change to their older days.I like
    their new singer,he's pretty cool!
    
    
    
    ian

    Yeah, it was "Only".  Is the rest of the new album like that one?
    
    gh

    The rest of the album is also excellent. Best album they`ve done,imo.
    
    A variety of styles on the album,so i wouldn`t necessarily say that
    "Only" is typical....but i would say if you like that,i`d imagine
    you would like the rest of the album. If you catch my drift.
    

    even better than spreading the disease?
    
    
    
                                             ian

    It would be tough to top Among The Living for me.
    
    gh

    I rememebr when among the living was released,it was when Anthrax was
    into their Bermuda shorts phase.They played here on the 5th of november
    and it was freezing outside.It was really funny to see these people
    turning up at a concert with a t-shirt,Bermuda shorts and hypothermia!!
    
    
                                                ian

    ...oh I forgot,you also had to leave your skateboard at the entrance!
    
    

    ..I remember that gig.
    
    I got interviewed outside the Hammersmith Odeon on T.V,and tried to
    impress everyone with "yes,i`m really into the New York Hardcore scene.
    Bands like N.Y.C. Mayhem,Agnostic Front,er,Youth of Today,er,i er,and
    all that".
    
    ho!ho!
    
    

    I saw the video to the new Anthrax song called "black lodge"...it has
    nothing to do with Twin Peaks but it is
    
    
    
    very...
    
    
    very....
    
    
    strange....!
    
    
    					ian
    
    but still very watchable.I found myself concentrating more on the video
    than the song.

    Yeah Ian..I Saw That.
    Some SickO who Kidnapps Woman than Does Perverted Thangs to them..
    Very_F*cked_Up..   
    
               Crazy_Liked_The_Song_Tho_Al
    

    That's Anthrax doing "Black Lodge"?  I've heard it on the radio a
    couple of times and didn't realize it was them!  I was just thinking
    Sunday afternoon that I should pick up a copy of the new album after I
    heard "Only" on the radio.
    
    gh

    	I thought "only" was excellant but haven't gotten round to buying
    the newest album!I will do(one day) 8)
    
    
    						ian

    I went and saw Anthrax last sunday night in Glasgow and once again they
    were superb.They had a very responsive crowd and the place was a total
    pit!I stood at the back this time and went home slightly less sweaty
    than the last time I saw them! 8)
    
    					ian

    Where were they playing.... Not the Barrowlands!
    
    Bonzo (inquiring minds & all that)

    
    
    RE:-2
    
    And with both contacts I presume?!
    
    

    re-1
    
    ahahaha both contacts were intact and no bruises! 8)
    
    re-2
    
    Bonzo,yup it was the Barrowlands.It was a total sweatbox!
    
    					ian

    
    New Anthrax CD coming out (if it hasen't already).  Danny Spitz is
    out and a few 'guest' axe-men have stepped in for this recording.
    (Including Dimebag Darrel [whatever he goes by] from Pantera on
    4 of the cuts).
    
    Kev --
                                                    

    
    I'm kinda glad they got rid of Danny,his sound was thin and never
    varied at all from album to album.
    
    
    ..plus Dimebag is a way better player!
    
    
    					ian

    Yeah, danny was a putz -- glad he's gone

    
    HE WAS a putz...I remember seeing them in row #1 down in Providence
    opening for Maiden some time ago.  The whole set this pip-squeek 
    stood motionless, playing complete sh#t the entire time.  
    
    "You know what time it is Providence!!!???" -- yeah, time for Maiden
    assh#le.
    
    Kev --
    

    
    Heard a new cut off the upcoming CD and it sounded real good, IMO, 
    better than much of what they've put out - ever.
    
    Kev --
    

    
    Is John Bush still singing for them? I didn't really care for The sound
    of white noise, except for "Only" on it. Maybe one other track. I liked
    Bush better with Armored Saint! I may sell that CD off though (Shawn?),
    the Anthrax one....I'll post my list probably next week, I have to look
    over what I have and what I really don't listen to anymore (and decide
    if I will again before I sell them).
    
    MIke
    

    
    RE: -2
    
    Same guy.
    

    
    Getting back onto talking about Anthrax.....They will be in
    Strawberries I believe in Framingham on Rte. 9 Tuesday night at 7:00 PM
    to autograph their new CD Stomp 442 (or is it Stomp442?). Just heard it
    on the radio this morning. Tuesday the 24th.
    
    I can't make it, but I'd appreciate an autographed copy!
    

    
    	I picked up "Stomp 442" last week.
    
    	Not bad at all ... I'd say it's at least as good as their last
    	1.  I'll have to give it another listen or 2.
    

    
    Picked up "Stomp" as well.  Pretty good, production too.  This
    CD cranks for sure.
    
    I think they're playing Avalon tonight, not sure though.
    
    Kev --
    

    	Heard via the grapevine that Anthrax will be on Conan Obrien,
    	or however the geek's name is spelled...
    
    	I'll definitely add it to my late night show band performance
    	tapes...

    Speaking of Anthrax.  There's a killer show coming up. Life of Agony,
    The Misfits, Cannibal Corpse, and Anthrax. All on one ticket.  The club
    they're playing at can only hold about 250 people. This is going to be
    one wild show. I can't wait!
    -ss

    You'll probably be able to have sex right in the middle of the crowd!

    With a crowd like that one can get away with almost ANY
    forbiden/illegal acts! I can't wait!

    You might even be able to bring in animals and commit acts of
    bestiality right there, in the middle of the crowd!

    I was thinking of something else, but whatever you're into is cool,
    too.
    -ss

    EEEwwwww!  8P

        You mean "ewe", eh?

    
    	That was baaaaaahhhhd, Glenn.
    

    Well, you'll never catch me on the lamb.

    
    	So you're saying you're discreet?
    

    Yes, I always start with a nice bottle of Mouton Cadet.

    Anthrax, people, Anthrax!

    That can kill you know!