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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Thu May 05 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1238
Total number of notes:65616

624.0. "Hawkwind" by CURRNT::ROWLEY () Mon Aug 07 1989 11:54

    HELLO ALL,
    I AM ON A STUDENT PLACEMENT AT DEC IN BASINGSTOKE, ENGLAND.
    I FREAK OUT INTO HAWKWIND, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THERE?
    				MATT
    
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624.1Space Invaders!!!YUPPY::OHAGANBClock-End this yearMon Aug 07 1989 13:499
    Have'nt much time for all that inter-galactic-hyper-astral-sonic-temple
    and so on stuff but I did enjoy some of the stuff Nick Turner done
    with Inner City Unit. Especially: "Skinheads in Leningrad", "Solitary
    Ashtray", and "Nazi Motorcycle Sluts". He sure picked some titles
    did'nt he?. 
    
    Regards,
    
    Barry. (London)
624.2Hit KP7 to add RECORDS to your notebookHAZEL::STARRKids flash guitars just like switchbladesMon Aug 07 1989 14:214
I don't know much about Hawkwind, but there is an extensive note on them in 
the COMET::RECORDS conference. See note #290 there....

cat
624.3Orgones are good for you!VULCAN::GATESMon Aug 07 1989 15:4817
    Topic 290 in COMET::RECORDS looks a bit dead to me!!
    
    Has anyone seen a video of Hawkwind/Robert Calvert? A friend of
    mine insists that it exists and is called something like Night Of
    The Hawks. Any info is appeciated.
    
    By the way, I saw them live at Hammersmith in Dec 88 and they were
    totally overwhelming. Also saw them at Brixton Academy earlier this
    year for the Robert Calvert benefit but they were a bit dull (maybe
    it was my hearing though).
    
    What are your favourite tracks?
    
        My all time No. 1 is Damnation Alley from Quark,Strangeness
        and Charm.
    
        Baz.
624.4RAIN::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATWed Aug 09 1989 04:427
    
    
    Does anybody remember when Lemmy was in Hawkwind?If so which albums?
    and did he sing at all?He has a titanium voice :^)
    
    
                               DEEBS
624.5Lemmy in HAWKWINDCASEE::LALLIDidier - BCE Valbonne - ext. 828.5423Wed Aug 09 1989 07:075
There is one album I know he is in. He plays Bass and does not sing at all. The
album is called "Hall of the Moutain Grill". Don't know its release date.

Didier
624.6Grinding vocals!HEAD::GATESWed Aug 09 1989 08:4323
    re .4
    
    I saw Hawkwind in concert at Finsbury Park,London about 2 years
    ago at a concert called Acid Daze! They put on a really good
    performance and as an encore Lemmy came on as a guest appearance and 
    performed Silver Machine, Hassan I Sabbah and one other number I can't
    remember. He went down very well with the fans who had spent about
    6 hours listening to assorted psychedelic bands while waiting for
    Hwakwind to appear. I don't know what Lemmy was doing previous to
    the gig but his voice sounded like a bucket of gravel being swished
    about!
    
    Another group at the gig who were interesting were called Nas Nomad
    who are in fact The Damned in hippy dress. They did a good rendering
    of Riders Of The Storm by The Doors and proceeded to demolish their
    instruments!
    
    By the way, Hall Of The Mountain Grill was released around 1973
    and it is still a brilliant album.
    
    Still waiting for info on the Hawkwind video.
    
                Baz.
624.7Also on...JANUS::FAGGRock 'n' Roll OverkillWed Aug 09 1989 09:146
    You can also find Lemmy's work on the live album "Space Ritual" (one
    well worth getting hold of if you can). It was released end '72 or
    early '73 (I think) and even then Lemmy sounded as if he gargled on
    glass every morning!
    
    Keef.
624.8Lemmy is Ian KilminsterRAIN::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATWed Aug 09 1989 18:4512
    
    Yup,
    I met Lemmy in 84 and he even talks like that.Motorhead was founded
    by Lemmy when he was in Hawkwind.He partied hard one night and into
    the morning and wrote a song called "Motorhead" that described that
    night of swilling.He left Hawkwind to persue a successful solo career.
    Motorhead was the first thrash metal band in the world.A style that
    has been copied relentlessly these days.But they still belt it out
    today.
    
                                DEEBS
    
624.9I've gotta Washing Machine...SHAPES::HARRISONPMon Aug 21 1989 12:1621
    
    Re: The last few replies.
    
    Lemmy sung backing vocals on several Hawkwind tracks, including
    "Lost Johnny" on Hall of the Mountain Grill. He was originally a
    roadie for the band (he also used to roadie for Jimi Hendrix). When
    the band's bassist fell ill before a gig, Lemmy was asked if he
    could play bass. He was an accomplished rythm guitar player, but
    no way a bassist, but this didn't stop him so he practiced for a
    bit and played the gig anyway!
    
    Night of the Hawks is a $h!t hot video. I think it's produced by
    Channel 5 Videos, I'll try and find out.
    
    Best tracks - how about Death Trap, Levitation, Joker at the Gate,
    Steppenwolf, Lost Johnny, Circles, just about everything except
    Silver Machine!
    
    Paul
    ----
    
624.10Naz Nomad and the NightmaresSHAPES::HARRISONPMon Aug 21 1989 12:2011
    
    Re: 624.6
    
    This probably isn't the place for this reply, but it's convenient!
    
    Naz Nomad and the Nightmares have an album out, called Give Daddy
    the Knife, Cindy. It's on the Big Beat label, not exactly metal
    but worth listening to.
    
    Paul
    ----
624.11RAIN::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATTue Aug 22 1989 02:207
    
    
    Motorheads first album has Lost Johnny on it.Check it out.
    
    
    
                          DEEBS
624.12Hawkwind In ConcertVULCAN::GATESFri Aug 25 1989 10:3412
    
    For anybody thats interested Hawkwind are doing a gig at the Brixton
    Academy in London on 3rd September to celebrate 20 years in the
    business. I have only heard this second hand but apparently it will
    be  an all day affair with several other groups including Doctor
    and The Medics supporting. Hawkwind will porbably go on last and
    several 'special' guests are expected. Lemmy and Huw Lloyd-Langton
    maybe? Unfortunately I will be abroad on the day of the gig so I
    will miss it. Is anyone else going though? If so what are your thoughts
    on the dingy Academy?
    
    				Baz.
624.13Hype by Bob CalvertVULCAN::GATESWed Aug 30 1989 14:3314
    Oooops... Mistake in .12
    
    Doctor and the Medics won't be supporting on Sunday, instead it
    will be Nas Nomad and the Nightmares (The Damned), with Atom Gods,
    Voodoo Chile and a few others. Tickets are 11 pounds.
    
    Re: Robert Calvert.
            Does anyone have a copy of an album by Robert Calvert called
    Hype. If so could I borrow it for a couple of days? There is also
    a book that he wrote called Hype but I have never had the chance
    to read it. 
    
    			Thanks,
    				Baz.
624.14Wait! Don't delete me...GLOWS::SIMPSONWhy are you still up?Thu Aug 31 1989 21:546
        Yeah, yeah, I know this should be in the records note, but as
    this note hasn't died yet, I gotta ask. What about The Xenon Codex?
    I just picked up this album, great sound, definitely not metal though.
    :^( Oh well, on to the next...
        Spaceknight
    
624.15I don't reprint this stuff for my health ! :^)BTOVT::BAGDY_MGood Morning Mr. Bagdy, Going Down?Tue Sep 12 1989 19:1114
624.16May you have good healthCSC32::G_HOUSEGhastly ghoulish apparitionsTue Sep 12 1989 20:211
    
624.17BTOVT::BAGDY_MGood Morning Mr. Bagdy, Going Down?Wed Sep 13 1989 00:5512
624.18Hwakwind Touring AginHEAD::GATESMon Sep 25 1989 14:567
    Kennedy Street Entertainments presents Hawkwind + Support on 
    Thursday 7th December 1989, at the Hammersmith Odeon.
    The Odeon is my favourite venue to see Hawkwind so hopefully it
    will be a mind-blowing occasion to remember.
    
    Apparently Hawkwind are due to release an EP for the American market
    which will probably have a more commercial metal sound to it.
624.19Hawkwind discography anyone?MEO78B::PADDONWed Dec 06 1989 02:457
    Can anybody supply a definitive Hawkwind discography? An indication
    of availability on CD would also be quite useful.
    
    		Thanks,
    			Michael
    
624.20Sonic AttackSHAPES::HARRISONPEat Judge-boot, law-breaker!Wed Dec 06 1989 07:2918
    A _definitive_ Hawkwind discography? You're kidding! I'm pretty sure
    that even Dave Brock doesn't know about everything that's been put out
    in the name of the Hawks. There's the free festival tapes, the
    unofficial releases of stuff from the "Space Ritual" tour, the Hawkwind
    Zoo bootlegs, and the rest. The trouble is that in their early days
    Hawkwind were more interested in chemical mind alteration than in
    looking after there interests and rights as performing artistes. :^)
    The upshot of this is that they don't own the recording rights to a
    lot of their early work - with all sorts of unauthorised compilations
    being released whenever it looked profitable (I believe Brock gave up
    on legal action years ago).
    
    However, as an ageing HawkFan I will look upon this as a challenge and
    will endeavour to post as complete a discography as possible within the
    next few days.
    
    Paul
    ---- <erstwhile Master of the Universe and Sonic Assassin>
624.21IOSG::PERKINSThe Lords of the New CreaturesWed Dec 06 1989 07:446
    
    Try Brynn - he likes Hawkwind.
    
    He's on JANUS::BHARRISON.
    
    flip
624.23This was not easy...SHAPES::HARRISONPEat Judge-boot, law-breaker!Thu Dec 07 1989 07:3576
    
    Right, as promised here's a sort of a Hawkwind discography. It's in a 
    vaguely chronological order, where I know the year I've put it in along 
    with any special information on the album. I'm sure I've left some stuff 
    out and a lot of this is from memory, so I apologise in advance for any 
    mistakes.
    
    Take a deep breath, there's a lot of stuff here...
    
    Hawkwind (1971)
    In Search of Space (1971)
    Space Ritual (1972, live)
    Doremi Fasol Latido (1972)
    Hall of the Mountain Grill (1974)
    Warrior on the Edge of Time (1975)
    Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music (1976)
    Road Hawks (live)
    Quark, Strangeness and Charm (1978)
    25 Years On (1978, Recorded under the name of the Hawklords due to legal 
    	wrangling over the Hawkwind name)
    PXR5
    Friends and Relations I & II (one side Hawkwind, one side related bands 
    	such as Inner City Unit, Michael Moorcock's Deep Fix, etc.) 
    Live '79 (1979, live - surprise, surprise)
    Levitation (1980)
    Repeat Performances (1980, a best of...)
    Sonic Attack (1981)
    Church of Hawkwind (1982)
    Choose your Masques (1982)
    This is Hawkwind, do not Panic (1984, live at Stonehenge, double album - 
    	one record at 33 and one at 45)
    Space Ritual Volume II (1985, live, reissue of 1972 material, pretty 
    	lousy quality)
    Earth Ritual
    Chronicles of the Black Sword (1985)
    Bring me the Head of Yuri Gagarin (live, unofficial issue of 1979 tour 
    	material, lousy quality)
    Live Chronicles (live from the Chronicles... tour)
    Anthology, volumes I, II & III
    Xenon Codex (1988)
    
    Sonic Assassins EP
    Motorhead/Valium 10 EP
    Hurry on Sundown EP
    
    Also worth checking out are the Free Festival tapes - I'm not sure how 
    many of these there were, but watch out for them. The quality is 
    acceptable and they are worth a bit. Some other early Hawkwind recordings 
    can be found on the Greasy Trucker's Ball and Glastonbury Fayre albums.
    
    Additionally, here's some solo stuff that is worth investigating...
    
    Dave Brock
    	Earthed to the Ground (1984, recorded to keep busy between tours)
    
    Bob Calvert
    	Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters (1974, great piss-take of the 
    	    aerospace industry)
    	Lucky Leif and the Longships
    	Hype
    	Freq
    
    Lloyd-Langton Group
    	Huw Lloyd-Langton's pet project has released a few albums, the only 
    	name I can remember is "Time, Space and LLG".
    
    Inner City Unit/Nik Turner's Allstars
    	Nik Turner's extra-curricular bands released a few tapes, nearly 
    	impossible to find these days.
    
    Hope this is useful, has anyone spotted any mistake?
    
    Paul
    ----
    
    
624.24Another One ...VULCAN::GATESThu Dec 07 1989 11:3320
624.25One or two more...MEO78B::PADDONThu Dec 07 1989 21:1915
    Re: .23
    
    Thanks for the effort you put into the discography. There was
    definitely stuff there that I had never heard of before.
    
    Just for the sake of completeness I'll list a couple of Hawkwind
    CD's I have that didn't appear on your list:
    	In and Outtake
    	The Hawkwind Collection
    
    					Michael
    
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
624.26They were good !BTOVT::BRONSONMr. Rogers is a metal head!Wed Nov 14 1990 19:0613
    
    
      I got to see Hawkwind back in '74 in Oxford at the New Theater. They
    played the Hall Of The Mountain Grill album. They were the back-up band
    to Argent. All I can remember is the lady in the band had broken her
    foot and she was hobbling all over the stage. Other than that I thought
    they played great!
    
                             R.B.
    
      P.s. Oxford as in the U.K.
    
    
624.27what's up?SOURCE::ZAPPIApunk rock pollyThu Feb 13 1992 16:076
    
    	I know there's been many personnel changes since '74 and they sounded
    	okay a couple years back, Johhny D's in Somerville if I recall but 
    	what if anything are they up to now?
    
    	- Jim
624.28discograpy addendumSSMPRD::SREGANAre there any monsters under my bed tonight?Thu Nov 18 1993 12:4816
    There's also:
    
    Space Bandits(199?)
    Angels of Death (compilation, 198?)
    Text of Festival (Double Live, 198?)
    Friends & Relations vol. 3 (198?)
    
    Independant Days I & II EPs (more compilations from the '80s)
    Night of the Hawks EP. (again from the 80s)
    
    Sorry about the vagueness of the dates but I can never remember them.
    
    
    Lemmy also appeared on the Doremi Fasol Latido album, where the original
    version of The Watcher (a song that's on Motorhead's first album)first
    appeared, and on the Night of the Hawks EP.
624.29That man Huw.RIOT01::KINGBURN HER!Mon Nov 22 1993 11:2411
    
    Quick story (don't all fall asleep now...!) .12 reminded me of.
    
    Saw Huw Lloyd-Langton at a gig in Doncaster a few years back, great
    set in a small pub with great beer.  They'd been on for about an hour
    and a half, then Huw starts trying to set the bassists jeans on fire with
    'is Zippo...bassist's so stoned he doesn't notice.  The only thing that
    stopped 'em flaring up (they were smouldering at this point) was Huw's
    cue for the next phrase was coming up!  Saved by the song...
    
    Chris.