Conference napalm::heavy_metal

	 All I know is that their first video is out on "What's New"
	 on MTV this week.


	 

	 I wasn't impressed, but then again......you know me!  :-)

	 Are they from Russia?  After all, Gorky Park is in Moscow,
	 isn't it?

	 /kath

    Gorky Park is one of two big rock "exports" from Russia.  I forget the
    other "big" Russia band (it's Stas Stalin's band), but I met a few guys
    in that band when they were in Boston....they're all 20 years behind
    the times, and they play real sophomoric by todays standards.  Alot of
    Russian rock bands sound like the Beatles, FYI.  Their "metal" bands
    are kinda lame too, and they sound like your average high school metal
    band here in the states (ability and image-wise).  Those two bands are
    real big in Russian and those circles, but I think they'll have a
    difficult time breaking across the boarder. 

    PS - Why do you think Yngwie sold out 12 straight nights at Russia's
    biggest arena??  They can't believe someone can play like that!!
    Gawd, here in the states most 17 year olds play like that.

Isn't the other big 'export' band called Autograph? (Not to be confused with
the Autograph who did "Turn Up The Radio" - its a different band). They were 
the ones that played via satellite for Live-Aid, I believe....

cat

    
       I've seen their video,pretty lame excuse for a video. I suppose
    when they become more Americanized,they will be better. They got
    potental.So many things have been happening in the Soviet Union
    since Gorbachev(sp.) took office.They speak good english..
    
      Doug..

    >    They speak good english..

    And why shudn't they...we taut em everything they no.

    	Let's hope they DON'T become more Americanized.  
    
    							   Carla

    
    
          They're probably going to start out like LOUDNESS,and then
    fade away.Remember Loudness started out big. Hey carla,why don't
    you want them to become Americanized? Maybe they can teach other
    Russian bands how to play Heavy Metal.Oh well,it's going to be a
    good show in russia. With Scorpions,Motley Crue,Bon Jovi. Who else
    is going to play in it? What are Russian concerts like??
    
        Doug..

>   Hey carla,why don't
>    you want them to become Americanized? Maybe they can teach other
>    Russian bands how to play Heavy Metal.


	 One thing I can't understand is the attitude that if you're
	 not American/British/Australian, you're nothing.

	 I'd like to see what a Russian group can bring to the Heavy
	 Metal culture in the US.  I, too, hope they never become
	 Americanized.  Culture is sooo important...

	 /kath

     
        There views are so differant from the U.S. How do russian bands
    get their equipment.Does religion play a part in their music? thats
    enough Questions for now..
    
       Doug..
    

    
        Does the government cut their albums too. I don't radio in the
    U.S.S.R. is that complex compared to the U.S.  Well,thats it for
    now..
    
     Doug..
    

    -2
    
    That makes sense, cuz one thing I noticed about the Russian rock bands
    were their LOUSY equipment!!  When they come to the states, they rent
    everything, of course they don't know how to work it!! The rage is the
    low-line Kramer guitars and Arion effects over there.  Marshalls are
    hard to get in the country.  Marshall or Fender is the amp of choice.

    In Guitar Player ran a story on the music scene in Russia around Oct or
    Nov 88.  They interviewed members of a couple of rock bands, a
    classical player, and a jazz player.  
    
    The rock players said that getting good equipment was very difficult
    (and very expensive).  The only way they get quality stuff is on the
    black market.  Many of the rock bands are not offically government
    supported and their shows have to be underground.  It's no wonder they
    haven't developed musically.
    
    I haven't heard (or heard of before now) Gorky Park.  I'm fairly
    certain they were not one of the ones interviewed by Guitar Player.
    
    I thought that was a very interesting article.  Gives you a perspective
    on another way of life.
    
    Greg

I don't knwo much about this band, but I saw their video the other day on MTV. 
Boy was this song lousy! Or, maybe a better word for it is 'boring'. They have 
all these musical cliches in there that wouldn't impress the crowd at 
Narcissus on a HM night. I don't know how to pinpoint it anymore, until I hear 
it again (so I can give examples), but at first listen, I was real 
disappointed.

cat

    
    I agree, cat.  The song was pretty boring, and the only words that
    I could understand were:
    	"Bang, Say yea da de da" (or something like that)
    
    But you gotta admit, do you think you would have seen that 10 years
    ago???
    
    jab

    
            They have the song writing talents of a two year old. My
    three year old nephew could write a better H_M song. Maybe they
    will be a big hit with top 40 persons(morons). There music lacks
    good guitar solos and a beat..
    
       Doug..

    
          Only one day left till the Moscow peace festival. Is anyone
    out here going to record it on video tape? It's like the "woodstock"
    of russia. Let me know how it turns out..
    
        Doug..

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    	I borrowed a promo for a band called Gorky Park....I'm sure
    you've all heard *of* them...maybe even seen a vid on Mtv...ya know
    the Russian band.
    
    	Well I gave it a listen (5 tunes incld a good cover of the Who's
    My Generation)...and was totally impressed.  They're different.
     
    	They remind me of Tesla in the feel...they have a fresh feel
    and sound...unlike the stale leftover Warrant, Winger, dangerous
    Toyz type.
    
    	The singer has a good voice...and his English is excellent.
     They do a ballad and the harmonies are beautiful.
    
    	What I was wondering is....are they planning an American
    album or what???  Personally I hope they do... I know I'll buy
    it...anyone else have any info or input???
    
    BK
        
    

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    ....but will they be allowed to do a follow up tour of the US?
    
    I doubt it....
    
    FLip

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    	Hmmmm.....ya never know.  They way things are going right now
    it wouldnt suprise me.  Look at all the american performers that
    have been going over there.  Billy Joel... Billy Crystal...Bon
    Jovi..Cinderlla....and the rest of the "monsters of posing" tour..
    
    	Plus for the first time in years didnt they (The Russian Govt)
    let the Russian Ballet come back to America???  I think it could
    be arrainged..if the powers that be wanted to do it...
    
    BK
    

    Band Line up:
    
    Vocals	Nikoai Naskov
    Drums	Sascha Lvov
    Bass	Alexander Minkov
    Guitar	Jan Janewkow
    Guitar	Alex Belov
    
    Flip

    
      For you guys down South, Gorky Park will be at Night Trax in about
    a month! I was there last weekend, and the bar advertised them.
      So keep on the look-out in a couple of weeks!
    
    B>A>

    
    Picked this album up yesterday (for only $9.00!), not too bad for
    a first album. They even got some help from Jon Bon Jovi and Ritchie
    Sambora on one track, "Peace In Our Time". They also did a cover
    of "My Generation", which was...different. If you get past "Bang",
    the rest of the album isn't bad, tubular bells and all. Produced
    by Bruce Fairbairn, of Bruce Hornsby fame. 
    Spaceknight
    

    
    	Anyone know if a US tour is in the works???
    
    BK
    

    
    	They're playin' the Paradise within the next month.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
        Yo Shawn, you heard anything about New York/New Jersey dates?
        Spaceknight
    

    
    	RE: Spaceknight
    
    		Nope, all I heard was for the Paradise.
    
    							GTI
    

    Gorky has been in town on a PEACE TOUR for the last week. They stopped
    by the studio and rented all of my brothers equipment to practice with
    on friday night. The were very nice, they had the band play two songs
    for them and they FLIPPED! They wanted tapes to bring back to Russia
    and traded autographed Russian maps for them. They loved the band! 
    
    SLAM

    
    What happened?
    
    Did these guys break up when the USSR did or what???
    
    Never liked 'em much anyway... they didn't make the kind of impact they
    needed to stay in mainstream american metal. kinda makes you wonder
    how the most rulin' band to come from out of country, Sepultura managed
    to make the impact that it did.
    
    

    GP or Sep. rule nothing!  What kind of impact did Sep make?
       None to my knowledge...8)
    
         Frizkid
    

    
    gp was trash.  just sounded like most of the local (ie crappy) bands
    around here.
    
    

    
    Sepultura? When was the last band from another country who's music is
    totally in minority, manage to make such a name for themselves. They've
    won endless awards and crap like that... 
    
    Friz If you'd take your head out from under a rock you'd know this...
    ;)

     I've only heard sepultura once and I'm not looking foward to hearing
    them again!!!!

    Chris...They haven't done anything of any worth.
               They sound like my garbage disposal...
    
         Frizkid
    

    
    The vocals aren't the greatest, but the music is great!

Sepultura are one of the best very heavy bands. For me they are up there with
the big names like Slayer, Forbidden, Coroner, Wargasm, Annihilator, Metallica..
and so on. But it's a matter of taste as I've never been a fan of Guns'n Roses,
Bon Jovi, Salty Dog and many others with even bigger names (I don't want to
influence those who have never listened them so I stop the list).

Sorin