Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    
    
    	I'm interested....(but only in the first 20 or so).
    	Are these the best albums of all time, or the best
    	METAL albums of all time??
    
    	Tigga~~~

    Yes, post them please.  I'd be interested to see them.  Should be good
    for some interesting discussion too...
    
    gh

    You got that right, dude.  But hey, it's HM related (hopefully)!

	O.K.  Here's the Top Five, with a brief excerpt from the magazine's
	review...

	1. ZOSO ... Led Zepplin		"It's safe to say that without the
				looming spectre of L.Z., heavy metal as we know
				it today would never exist...Nowhere did Zep's
				finely-tuned metal machine run in finer fashion
				than on their fourth album (a.k.a. ZOSO)...
				Quite simply, it doesn't get any better than
				this...[Stairway to Heaven] for many, it was
				heavy metal's coming of age..."

	2. Pyromania ... Def Leppard	"...ranks among the most successful
				heavy metal albums of all time...it is also
				one of the best...Walking the fine line between
				pop commercialism and pure metal mania...Prior
				to '83, metal had been in a tailspin...but the
				album's success once again proved the viability
				of metal..."

	3. Back In Black ... AC/DC	"...many wondered if the band would
				dissolve [after Bon's death]...but instead
				they recorded a classic slab of metal...
				Angus says "Bon's death was still very much
				in our minds, and we just dedicated everything
				we did to him...We just lowered our heads and
				plowed on, hoping for the best..."

	4. Theatre of Pain ... Motley Crue
					"...T.O.P. cemented their position
				as the most outrageous band of the '80's...
				Songs like - Use It or Lose It - exemplified
				their stick-it-in-socity's face attitude while
				flaunting their devil-may-care attitude...
				[Also] T.O.P. did exhibit the band's topical
				side on songs like - Fight For Your Rights..."

	5. Van Halen I ... Van Halen	"...Within that album's groove was a
				brief instrumental called ERUPTION which soon
				changed the style,sound, and texture of rock
				guitar as the world knew it...Edward was on his
				way to becoming the most respected and 
				influential musician of his generation...[along
				with] Roth's hair-raising shrieks, they brought
				new meaning to the words "Big Rock".



Night_Prowler		(next five soon to follow)
    

    

    
    
    	Hee hee hee....Theatre of Pain!!  YAHOOO!!!!!!

    
    	Crueton!

	Here's 6-10 ...  Let me know if you want any more ??

	6. Screaming For Vengeance ... Judas Priest
					"...But despite their noble efforts
				to keep the metal tradition alive, it wasn't
				until 1982's S.F.V. that [they] attained
				the Platinum sales status...On the strength
				of such tracks as - Electric Eye & You've
				Got Another Thing Coming - Preist showed
				that metal was not only alive, but very well
				indeed..."

	7. Destoyer ... Kiss		"...[due to their makeup] it was
				difficult for most serious rock fans to take
				Kiss seriously. But when Destroyer was released
				in '76, no one could deny that this band was on
				the cutting edge of metal's commercial
				renaissance..."

	8. ...And Justice For All ... Metallica
					"...must be ranked among the most im-
				portant, influential and satisfying metal
				albums of all time...the unquestioned kings
				of metal's newest subgenre, Power Metal. Songs
				like - Blackened & Harvester of Sorrow - rock
				with the power of a runaway rhino while pre-
				senting concepts that are both thoughtful and
				thought-provoking..."

	9. Machine Head ... Deep Purple	
					"Smoke on the Water, Highway, & 
				Lazy - some of the most memorable metal songs
				of all time, and they're all contained on one
				album. Released in 1972, M.H. has weathered
				the test of time to become one of the truly
				classic LP's of the metal genre...Even today,
				the LP stands as a cornerstone in the 
				development of metal's sound and style..."

       10. Blizzard of OZZ ... Ozzy Osbourne
					"...was a surprise when it was released
				in 1981. Not only did it contain outstanding
				tracks like - Crazy Train & Flying High Again -
				it also showed that Osbourne had a fine ear
				for young talent - guitarist Randy Rhoads 
				emerged from that album as one of the brightest
				young stars in metal before a plane crash robbed
				the rock world of his skills 2 years later..."




Night_Prowler   

    

GAK!

(picture of me tossing my cookies onto the keyboard)

Motley Crue was at #4, above such classics as Ozzy and Deep Purple??? No 
wonder why I never read these rags.

(Don't take these comments personal, Night Prwoler - I appreciate you taking 
the time to type this stuff in!)

cat

    Flying High Again wasn't on Blizzard...it was on the later 1981
    release _Diary of a Madman_.

    There we go I knew that DP would be in the top 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    NOBODY GONNA TAKE MY HEAD, I'VE GOT SPEED INSIDE MY BRAIN

    
        RE: Night_Prowler
    
            Any chance of u Xeroxing the list and sending it to
    
            Shawn Labounty
            LMO2/E06
    
                                                       GTI
    
        P.S.  Thanks!!
    

    Much of this stuff is subjective, but a few observations...
    
    #1 LZ's ZOSO (The fouth album). Although it's a VERY VERY good album
    	I'd hardly put it in the league of a metal album that kept metal
    	alive. For example, what of the albums that Deep Purple and
    	Black Sabbath were producing at the time (eg, Masters of reality,
    	Vol4, and Made in Japan)?
    
    #2 Pyromania (or whatever it was). Stated as being one of the most
    	succesful albums ever. So what? That doesn't make it a good
    	metal album! I see some pandering to the market/industry here!
    
    #n Deep Purple's Machine Head. Again, a really good album, but I
    	much prefer the live album "Made in Japan". For me that has
    	to be the definitive Deep Purple album and deserves to be much
    	further up the list.
    
    Just my opinion. I'd still like to see some more. If you don't
    want to enter it all in the conference, send me mail to JANUS::FAGG
    or hardcopy to REO2-G/H3.
    
    Ta much,
    	Keef.

	Here are the Top Fifty ...

  1.  ZOSO 			Led Zepplin
  2.  Pyromania 		Def Leppard
  3.  Back in Black		AC/DC
  4.  Theatre of Pain		Motley Crue
  5.  Van Halen I		Van Halen
  6.  Screaming for Vengance	Judas Priest
  7.  Destroyer			Kiss
  8.  ...And Justice For All	Metallica
  9.  Machine Head		Deep Purple
 10.  Blizzard of Ozz		Ozzy Osbourne
 11.  Powerslave		Iron Maiden
 12.  Slippery When Wet		Bon Jovi
 13.  Rocks			Aerosmith
 14.  Paranoid			Black Sabbath
 15.  II			Led Zepplin
 16.  Appetite for Destruction	Guns N' Roses
 17.  ALIVE			Kiss
 18.  British Steel		Judas Priest
 19.  Highway to Hell		AC/DC
 20.  Open Up and Say...Ahh	Poison
 21.  Love It to Death		Alice Cooper
 22.  So Far, So Good...So What	Megadeth
 23.  Out Of the Cellar		Ratt
 24.  The Ultimate Sin		Ozzy Osbourne
 25.  Shout At The Devil	Ozzy Osbourne
 26.  Whitesnake		Whitesnake
 27.  Love At First Sting	Scorpions
 28.  Long Cold Winter		Cinderella
 29.  Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow	
				Rainbow
 30.  Back For The Attack	Dokken
 31.  Metal Health		Quiet Riot
 32.  Hysteria			Def Leppard
 33.  Permanent Vacation	Aerosmith
 34.  Heaven and Hell		Black Sabbath
 35.  Are You Experienced	Jimi Hendrix
 36.  Night Songs		Cinderella
 37.  1984			Van Halen
 38.  South of Heaven		Slayer
 39.  Number of the Beast	Iron Maiden
 40.  The Final Countdown	Europe
 41.  Wheels of Steel		Saxon
 42.  State of Euphoria		Anthrax
 43.  Bad Company		Bad Company
 44.  The Last In Line		Dio
 45.  II			Van Halen
 46.  Animalize			Kiss
 47.  Look What the Cat Dragged In
				Poison
 48.  In Trance			Scorpions
 49.  Restless and Wild		Accept
 50.  Made In Japan		Deep Purple


	I'll type in the next fifty later


Night_Prowler


    

	I'd like to make some subjective comments about this list:

	I think the Magazine was definitely trying to get every current
	heavy metal act with at least one entry. This way whenever they
	need an interview with one of these bands, the band may be a 
	little more amenable. Like Keef said "pandering".

	However, I don't think the list should be read literally as 
	in number 1 is the greatest and number 100 the hundreth best
	album. I think it is better to just say here is a 100 great
	metal albums, and decide for yourself how they should be ranked.

	Having said that, I can't believe anyone in their right minds
	can say that Pyromania is the number 2 of all time. Better than
	Paranoid ? Machine Head ? Led Zepplin II ?  I mean let's be
	serious....

	One other point that really gets me is Jimi Hendrix's Are You 
	Experienced is number THIRTY-FIVE, behind such classics as
	Metal Health (ugh!), and Slippery When Wet (gag!)...

	That's why I'm just taking it as a COLLECTION of 100 metal albums
	rather than a RANKING of the top 100. It is easier to accept it
	that way....

	I'll List the next 50 later....I'll include some of the excerpts
	if anyone requests some specific album.


Night_Prowler

    

    
    
    	Good thing you mentioned that it'd be better to simply
    	say they are a collection and not a ranking because I
    	have a few qualms too!!
    
    	Europe?!?!??!!? before Anthrax?!?!  What is wrong with
    	this picture?!
    
    	Tigga~~~

    
        I believe #25 should be "Speak of the Devil" by Ozzy
        rather than "Shout at the Devil".
    
                                                       GTI
    

    re: #25 in the list...
    
    Perhaps they ment "Shout at the Devil" by Motley Crue?
    
    I can't believe that Cinderella would make even ONE album on a "top
    100 of all time", much less TWO (28 and 36).  Excuse me if you're a big
    fan, but I wouldn't rank them anywhere on the list.  Likewise with
    Europe.
    
    gh

    
    re .16  In the UK the title is "Talk of the Devil" by Ozzy
            its the double live with all Sabbath trax.
    
    

First thing is that #25 should be Shout At the Devil by Motley Crue

	Anyways, here are Fifty-one thru a Hundred ...

 51.  Lita			Lita Ford
 52.  Girls, Girls, Girls	Motley Crue
 53.  Operation: Mindcrime	Queensryche
 54.  Tooth and Nail		Dokken
 55.  Master of Puppets		Metallica
 56.  Led Zepplin		Led Zepplin
 57.  Black Tiger		Y & T
 58.  Lights Out		UFO
 59.  Stay Hungry		Twisted Sister
 60.  Slide It In		Whitesnake
 61.  2112			Rush
 62.  Ted Nugent		Ted Nugent
 63.  Physical Graffiti		Led Zepplin
 64.  In God We Trust		Stryper
 65.  Jailbreak			Thin Lizzy
 66.  7800 Farenheit		Bon Jovi
 67.  Helluva Band		Angel
 68.  Pride			White Lion
 69.  Ride The Lightning	Metallica
 70.  Once Bitten		Great White
 71.  Odyssey			Yngwie Malmsteen
 72.  Survival			Grand Funk Railroad
 73.  The Magician's Birthday	Uriah Heep
 74.  In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida	Iron Butterfly
 75.  Headhunters		Krokus
 76.  Aerosmith			Aerosmith
 77.  Montrose			Montrose
 78.  Peace Sells... But Who's
      Buying			Megadeth
 79.  Mechanical Resonance	Tesla
 80.  Agents of Fortune		Blue Oyster Cult
 81.  Disraeli Gears		Cream
 82.  Violation			Starz
 83.  Vincebus Eruptum		Blue Cheer
 84.  Cat Scratch Fever		Ted Nugent
 85.  Climbing 			Mountain
 86.  Ace of Spades		Motorhead
 87.  Inside the Electric 
      Circus			W.A.S.P.
 88.  Battle Hymns		Manowar
 89.  Kingdome Come		Kingdome Come
 90.  L.A. Guns			L.A. Guns
 91.  Eat'em and Smile		David Lee Roth
 92.  To Hell With the Devil	Stryper
 93.  In Rock			Deep Purple
 94.  Allied Forces		Triumph
 95.  Hall of the Mountain King	Savatage
 96.  Thunder In the East	Loudness
 97.  MSG			Michael Schenker Group
 98.  Frolic In the Park	Death Angel
 99.  True As Steel		Warlock
100.  Midnite Dynamite		Kix

	Read'em and weep ...


Night_Prowler

    
    >Read um and weep.
    
                       The dead mans hand again!
    
    
    
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