Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    I've asked about some of these on Usenet without luck.  I'd love to
    have some Ibanez RG550 shots or a Marshall JCM900 stack.  If I had a
    color scanner, I'd scan in all the cool pics from the Marshall
    calendar.
    
    Anyway, I have some bikini bimbos (;-)) in DDIF, some really cool GIFs
    of a ZR1, Space Shuttle shots, Yoda, etc.  If you send me mail, I'll
    send you a location.
    
    Mike

    re/ last?
    
    there some stuff in the digital_artlib 
    (gif files) [i thought]
    
    			wendy o' (tm ) ;*)
    
    
    

    back to the topic...
    
    There are quite a few in:
    
    RT95""::DW$GIF:

    Re: Shawn
    
    UP YOURS!
    
    Re: Buck
    
    Buy me a Sharp JX-450 color scanner and I'll take care of all of us!
    ;-)  It has 24 bit output and will work nicely with my 24 plane
    Firefox.
    
    Re: Coop
    
    Didn't you say you had "Master of Puppets"?  I put in a request for 
    some on "alt.binaries.pictures.d" and a couple of the rock newsgroups.  
    I had one response that offered me album covers of Rush's "Caress of 
    Steel" and Maiden's "Piece of Mind".  As soon as we can figure out how 
    to mail them from a Sun to my Firefox, I'll make them available.  What 
    I have available (most are from Coop):
    
    AFTERBURNER.GIF;1   - ZZ Top album
    BEATLES.GIF;3       - Let it Be era collage
    BLUES.GIF;4         - man playing the sax
    MTVLOGO.GIF;3       - I'll give you 3 guesses
    PFLOYD0.GIF;3       - Dark Side of the Moon
    PFLOYD1.GIF;3       - some pyramid design
    REM_OOTCOVER.GIF;1  - REM's latest album cover
    ROCK1.GIF;1         - band logo collage: Captain Beyond, Tangerine
                          Dream, Jimi Hendrix
    ROCK2.GIF;3         - band logo collage: Iron Butterfly, Black Sabbath,
                          Led Zepplin, Spirit, Doors
    ROCK3.GIF;3         - band logo collage: Jefferson Airplane, Greatful
                          Dead, Moody Blues
    ROCK4.GIF;3         - band logo collage: Uriah Heep, Pink Floyd
    SAXOPHONE.GIF;1     - closeup of a sax
    SGT_PEPPER.GIF;1    - 3 more guesses!
    U2.GIF;2            - cover for "Under a Blood Red Sky"

    BTW - I have 2 new album covers.  Somebody on Usenet must be a big Yes
    fans (the one's with the color scanners seem to have wierd taste ;-)).  
    The albums are "Close to the Edge" and "90125".
    
    Mike
    
    

    Some new album covers for you Maiden fans are available.  Send mail for
    the location.
    
    IM_KILLERS.GIF;1
    IM_LIVE_AFTER_DEATH.GIF;1
    IM_MAIDEN_IN_JAPAN.GIF;1
    IM_NUMBER_OF_THE_BEAST.GIF;1
    IM_PIECE_OF_MIND.GIF;1
    IM_POWERSLAVE.GIF;1
    IRON_MAIDEN.GIF;1

    
    How the heck do you get these things to work?

    Okay, here's a GIF primer for you neophytes ;-)
    
    You basically have 2 products to use: XGIF and XV.  XV is the successor
    to XGIF and will support 24 plane systems (actually dithers the image
    down to 8 planes, but at least it still works).
    
    For XGIF, copy these images to your account: 

    HAVASU::USER2:[XGIF]XGIF.EXE
    HAVASU::USER2:[XGIFROOT]XGIFROOT.EXE
    
    For XV, copy this image:
    
    HAVASU::USER2:[XV]XV.EXE
    
    If you're into sources and have the disk space, there's an XV.SAV
    saveset in there.  I also have sources for the XGIF stuff.

    To use these tools, you need to define them as a foreign symbol.  If you
    don't know how to do that, put these in your LOGIN.COM

    $ XGIF  :== $your_disk:[your_directory]XGIF
    $ XGIFROOT :== $your_disk:[your_directory]XGIFROOT
               
                                ***OR***
    
    $ XV :== $your_disk:[your_directory]XGIFROOT
    
    Then to display your GIF in the pause window:
    $ XGIF filename.GIF -p

    For the root window:
    $ XGIFROOT filename.GIF

    The XGIF tool will display (a lot faster and cleaner than UTOX) by just 
    typing:
    $ XGIF filename.GIF

    XV doesn't support the pause window since that is a DEC specific
    feature and the author wrote it on a Unix machine at the University of
    PA.  However, it does the root window, and also has a great menu, as
    well as being able to do gamma adjustments, picture enlargements, etc.
    
    The root window command for XV would be:
    
    $ XV -root -max -quit filename.GIF
    
    If you omit the -max it puts multiple copies of the GIF until the
    display is full (collage effect).
    
    I'm still working out getting XV to display on the login screen
    (instead of DEC logo).  If anyone has this working, send me mail.
    
    hope this helps,
    Mike

    Donno about DECpaint, but you can use the CDA viewer that comes with
    DECwindows to view DDIF pictures.
    
    gh

    Check out the other directories in my [GIF...] area.  There's some real
    good stuff in there.

    Mike:
    
    I'm able to view the GIF files on my workstation fine... no problem.
    But when I download them with kermit to a floppy, and use a GIF file
    viewer on an MS-DOS machine I get an error saying there's a bad code in
    the file!  Is there anything I'm supposed to do to these files before
    downloading them?  I vaguely remember something about "stream LF
    format".  Any Ideas?
    
    |KS|
    

    You might want to UUENCODE them first before putting them on floppy and
    then UUDECODE them when on DOS.
    
    Mike

    Okay, I'll have to find those programs first I guess.  For now, I
    created an empty file called NORMAL.GIF just to get a variable length
    format to work with, and then did a 
         CONVERT/APPEND IRON_MAIDEN.GIF NORMAL.GIF
    and it seems like it might work... No stream-lf format anyway.  So I'm
    downloading it now...
    
    

    Oh yeah, that is a good one!  There's some of Boston and the Cape under
    [GIF.SIGHTS]
    
    Mike

    Mike,
    
    Does XV only work under unix?  When I try to run it, it comes back with
    the following error message:
    
    %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image DECW$DWTLIBSHR
    -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file DKB0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]DECW$DWTLIBSHR.EXE
    -SYSTEM-F-SHRIDMISMAT, ident mismatch with shareable image
    

    -1
    
    What version of VMS are you running?  Methinks this was set up for V5.4
    or better.
    
    Buck, who had the same problem at V5.3

    I'm running version T5.4-2 of VMS.
    

    I'm running 5.4-2 (the official release).  Try relinking or upgrading
    from the field test version.
    
    BTW - XV is much nicer than XGIF.

    D'ya see the [gif.si] directory yet Pete?  More interesting than space
    shuttles I think!  8*)
    
    Also, you can re-size the image by dragging the box in the upper right
    corner of the window.
    
    
    |KS|

    Re: resizing
    
    With XV, all you have to do is click on the appropriate button on the
    menu box.
    
    Re: [.si]
    
    you naughty boys!

    What's the node number for HAVASU?
    
    John
    

    Mike's nodename changed to FRETZ recently, I suspect he used the old
    node number from HAVASU for the new name.  Take a look for this one...
    
    gh

FWIW - Those file sizes are in BYTES - Divide by 512 for blocks.

jc

    Remember not to flood the anonymous FTP access points with too many
    requests.  Only take a few gifs at a time.  It costs the companies that
    set this up money when you access their network site, and if it gets
    out of hand, they'll have to shut it down.

    I heard of one place that got over $5000 in network access charges from
    anonymous FTP access because people weren't considerate about this.
    
    Most places also appreciate it if you set up your FTP access to
    off-business-hours, like late at night as well.

    gh

JPEG?

    ...if you don't mind waiting half your life for it to figure out the
    JPG image.  SLOOOOOOOOW!!!
    
    gh

Well, yeah, JPEG is the image compression scheme from Hell.  It's hellish
enough that some people have built custom hardware to handle it.

C-Cubed and Chips and Technologies both have JPEG on a chip.

When MPEG hardware comes out you'll be able to compress and store
color video at 30 frames per second.

Then you'll need a bigger disk. :-)

-- 
Kevin

    ...and most of those JPEG images that take 10 minutes to get up on the
    screen don't look any better then the GIF image that pops up in about
    5 seconds!
    
    gh  (who avoides JPEG pictures most of the time)

I agree that if you've got the disk space and not muc of a CPU then
you should avoid JPEG.  The only advantage to JPEG is that it compresses
the hell out of images.  It is compute intensive.

Image quality has little to do with it, even though JPEG is a "lossy"**
compression scheme.  99% of the image quality problems come from the
bozo running the scanner.


** lossy:  You lose a small amount of information.  If you start with an
   original image in file 1, JPEG compress it into file 2 and then JPEG
   uncompress file 2 into file 3, then file 3 will not be identical to
   the original file 1.  The differences are usually to small to notice
   with the naked eye at normal viewing distance, but can cause problems
   in scientific analysis.

-- 
Kevin

    Anyone have a GIF viewer that works on Risc/Ultrix ? The .exe files on
    SMURF::GIFS: seems to be compiled for VMS and therefor there is a small
    problem to get'em running on Ultrix.
    
    Thanks in advance /ISAK - Sweden

    
    If anyone's interested, I have a bunch of Fractal Gifs I've generated.
    They were created with the shareware program FRACTINT.  
    
    Some of them are quite mindblowing!  all are 1024x768x256
    
    If anyone wants 'em there at METALX"GIF ZOETROPE"::$DISK1:[GIF.FRAC]
    
    Especally check out the ones dated 16-OCT-1992.....  really wild!!!
    
    |KS|
    

    Hey You're welcome!  I think these things are wild and I figured I'd
    distrubute some so other people can enjoy them.  If you can figure out
    a way to get them on a shirt in high quality you can make big bucks. 
    Say goodbye to tie dye!
    
Some look better than others.  It would probably
be helpful to note the realy cool ones.

COMICF2	  looks like it would be something drawn in that cartoon 	 
	  magazine Heavy Metal.
SEIZMIC1  looks just like a photo from an eletron scanning microscope
FIREBAL2  looks like a hollow burning planet that's just about to explode
FIREBAL1  is a close up view of the same planet
FIREBAL3  looks like a gleaming sun with a sheer metallic surface
FIREBAL4  is about the same as FIREBAL1
PLANET-X  red alien world
PRICKLY1  blue alien world
BADTRIP   This is one of the few that's random.  In the center is 	 
	  something that looks like the 'rock' is doing a "Pink Floyd
	  The Wall Scream".  Above that it looks like the rock is 	  
	  being torn apart to reveal some kind of webbing underneath. 
	  In the bottom right there's actually a face! Looking out 	  
	  from the rock in the southeast direction.  It's about 3/4 	 
	  inch long and it's just a profile, but it's definately 	  
	  there, and by pure random coincidence.

Remember, none of these are photographs and some took 8 hours or more to
calculate. 

|KS|
                                                                         

    I am having trouble finding the GIF files on Mike's node.
    The location from a while back seems to be:
    
    FRETZ::USER2:[GIF...] but all I get is directory not found.
    
    Anybody know what it should be.
    
    Paul

    Try FRETZ::USER2:[SCANS.*]

    You have to specify a file name and version.  Want me to send you his
    complete directory?
    
    'pril 

    Sorry, you'll have to contact Mike at FRETZ::HEISER.  
    
    I must have deleted it!  8(

    There were GIFs of Steve "emotionless wonder" Vai and Jimmy Page posted
    to alt.guitar today.  The Vai GIF is the cover of P&W.  The Page GIF is
    actually a contact sheet with 6 different photos on it.
    
    Mike

I'd like to see the Page one - do you have it?

    Thanks for relaying that info Mike!  I never open up the alt.guitar
    conference.  Do they post gifs in there often?  There was one of Eddie
    VH, and Michael Anthony in there too.
    
    |KS|
    

    Some real cool GIFs/JPGs posted lately, including:
    
    - scans of Queen's first 4 albums
    - Jimi's Axis & Electric Ladyland

    
    
    Anybody know the addresses for some good gif's?  I've tried the 
    ones that Mike and Ken posted, but I get 'directory not found' 
    or 'insufficient priv'.
    
    
    Steve

    Try METALX::DISK3:[PICS.MUSIC]
    
    |KS|
    

    Thanks Ken!   

    Geez, look at all these netserver.log files popping up!  I should be
    charging for these!!  :')
    
    |KS|
    

    Sorry Ken!  I'll clean up after myself next time!  ;^)
    
    
    Steve

Sorry, I was looking too!  You can do a set file/version=5 to keep the # of
files down...

Tim

    That's no problem, the files aren't getting in my way, I mean't I
    should charge everyone for these GIFs  Hahahah!   :')
    

    
    
    
    > $ dir fretz::user2:[scans]
    >
    > Directory FRETZ::USER2:[SCANS]
    > 
    > *.*;*              no privilege for attempted operation
    > 
    > Total of 1 file, 0 blocks.
    

    
    thats because you tried to do a wildcard directory.  you have to know
    the EXACT name of the file you want to copy and explicitly identify
    that file.  either that, or mike could do the easy thing and set his
    directory w:r.
    
    

    ...or Mike could:
    
    $ dir/out=gif.lis; [scans...].gif;
    $ mail/subj="GIFS" gif.lis; MKOTS4::GRENIER
    
    
    
    (hint,hint)   8^)

    re: Mike
    
    Perhaps the keyword in your sentence is "was".  I thought I'd seen it
    too, but looked through the previous notes in this string and couldn't
    find it.  Where is it?
    
    Greg

    Please do your copying between the hours of 8pm-10am EST.  Any links
    created during hours other than above will be disconnected without
    notice.
    
Directory FRETZ::SCANS:[MUSIC]

AMY_GRANT-1.GIF;1   AMY_GRANT-2.GIF;1   AMY_GRANT-3.GIF;1   AMY_GRANT-4.GIF;1  
AMY_GRANT-5.GIF;1   AMY_GRANT-6.GIF;1   AMY_GRANT.GIF;1     BEATLES-1.GIF;1    
BEATLES.GIF;3       BLUES_BROTHERS.JPG;2                    CARLOS_SANTANA.GIF;2
CHARLIE_PEACOCK.GIF;2                   DANIEL_AMOS.GIF;2   DEC_JAM-1.GIF;1    
DEC_JAM-2.GIF;1     DEC_JAM-3.GIF;1     DEC_JAM-4.GIF;1     DEC_JAM.GIF;1      
DEF_LEPPARD-1.GIF;2 DEF_LEPPARD.GIF;2   DJAM.HLP;1          DRUMS.GIF;2        
DRUMS.JPG;2         ERIC_CLAPTON-1.GIF;2                    ERIC_CLAPTON-2.GIF;3
ERIC_CLAPTON.GIF;3  ERIC_CLAPTON.JPG;2  FLEETWOOD_MAC.GIF;2 GENESIS-1.GIF;1    
GENESIS.GIF;1       GUNS_ROSES-1.GIF;1  GUNS_ROSES-3.GIF;1  GUNS_ROSES-4.GIF;1 
JIMI_HENDRIX-1.JPG;2                    JIMI_HENDRIX.JPG;2  JOE_SATRIANI-1.GIF;1
JOE_SATRIANI-2.GIF;1                    JOE_SATRIANI-3.GIF;1
JOE_SATRIANI-4.GIF;1                    JOE_SATRIANI-5.GIF;1
JOE_SATRIANI-6.GIF;1                    JOE_SATRIANI.GIF;1  JUDAS_PRIEST.GIF;2 
KINGS_X-1.GIF;1     KINGS_X-2.GIF;1     KINGS_X-3.GIF;1     KINGS_X.GIF;2      
LED-ZEPPELIN-1.GIF;1                    LED-ZEPPELIN-2.GIF;1
LED-ZEPPELIN.JPG;2  MARIAH_CAREY-1.GIF;1                    MARIAH_CAREY-2.GIF;1
MARIAH_CAREY.GIF;1  MTV_LOGO-1.GIF;2    MTV_LOGO.GIF;2      OUR_HYMNS.GIF;2    
PETRA.GIF;2         PHANTOMOFTHEOPERA.JPG;3                 PIANO.GIF;1        
PINK_FLOYD-1.GIF;1  PINK_FLOYD-2.GIF;1  PINK_FLOYD-3.GIF;1  PINK_FLOYD-5.GIF;1 
PINK_FLOYD-6.GIF;1  PINK_FLOYD.GIF;1    QUEEN-4.GIF;1       QUEEN-5.GIF;1      
QUEEN-6.GIF;2       QUEEN-7.GIF;2       QUEEN-8.GIF;2       QUEEN.GIF;1        
QUEENSRYCHE_EMPIRE.GIF;2                QUEENSRYCHE_MINDCRIME.GIF;2
QUEENSRYCHE_RAGE_3D.GIF;2               RANDY_RHOADS.GIF;2  RUSH-1.GIF;1       
RUSH-2.GIF;1        RUSH-3.GIF;1        RUSH-4.GIF;1        RUSH-5.GIF;1       
RUSH.GIF;1          RUSH.JPG;2          SAXOPHONE.GIF;1     STEVE_VAI.GIF;2    
STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-1.GIF;1              STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-10.GIF;1
STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-11.GIF;1             STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-12.GIF;1
STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-13.GIF;1             STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-14.GIF;2
STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-15.GIF;2             STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-16.GIF;2
STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-17.GIF;2             STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-18.GIF;2
STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-2.GIF;1              STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-4.GIF;2
STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-5.GIF;1              STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-6.GIF;1
STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-7.GIF;1              STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-8.GIF;1
STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN-9.GIF;1              STEVIE_RAY_VAUGHAN.GIF;2
STYX.JPG;1          SUSAN_ASHTON.GIF;1  TRAVELING_WILBURYS.JPG;1
U2-1.GIF;2          U2-3.GIF;2          U2.GIF;2            VAN_HALEN-1.GIF;2  
VAN_HALEN-2.GIF;2   VAN_HALEN.GIF;2     VAN_HALEN.JPG;2     VIOLIN.GIF;2       
WEIRD_AL_YANKOVIC.GIF;1                 WHO.GIF;2           YES-90125.GIF;1    
YES-ANDERSON_BRUFORD_WAKEMAN_HOWE.GIF;1 YES-CLOSE2EDGE.GIF;1
YES-FRAGILE.GIF;1   YES-UNION.GIF;1     ZZ_TOP-1.GIF;1      ZZ_TOP-2.GIF;1     
ZZ_TOP.GIF;1        ZZ_TOP.JPG;2        

Total of 124 files.

    Since when does Susan Anton have anything to do with music?

    that's Susan ASHton you dweeb.  Besides, didn't Susan Anton sing on the
    Love Boat once?

>    that's Susan ASHton you dweeb.  
    
    Whoszat?
    
>    Besides, didn't Susan Anton sing on the Love Boat once?
    
    Sing?  I'm not sure she could even speak...
    

>    Whoszat?
    
    send me mail and I'll tell ya.
    
>    Sing?  I'm not sure she could even speak...
    
    sometimes it's better when they don't speak.

    re: -1.........i feel the same way about *most* men..........;'))..../k

    well I didn't mean to imply that's how I feel about women.  

>    well I didn't mean to imply that's how I feel about women.  
    
    It's ok, it's probably better when I stay quiet too.

    With some hesitation, I'm making my repository world available.  The only 
    limitation is the copy times.  You can copy any time except for 10am-8pm 
    EST.  This is a standalone workstation and I won't tolerate the 
    performance hit from multiple network copy requests.  I will rudely 
    disconnect (without notice) any network links created during those hours.  
    If there are too many violations during those hours, I will take them 
    offline.
    
    Having said that, the repository that this group would be interested in
    is located at FRETZ::SCANS:[MUSIC].  There are other directories
    available if you're so inclined.
    
    regards,
    Mike

    Directory SCANS:[MUSIC]
    
    BOSTON.JPG;2             158  (RWED,RWED,RE,R)   {Don't Look Back}
    DREAM_THEATRE.JPG;2      247  (RWED,RWED,RE,R)   {Images & Words}
    VAN_HALEN-1.JPG;2        255  (RWED,RWED,RE,R)   {For Unlawful Carnal Know.}

    >DREAM_THEATRE.JPG;2      247  (RWED,RWED,RE,R)   {Images & Words}
                ^^
    
    Just FYI -- the band spells the name Dream TheatER -- and is VERY
    picky about the correct spelling!!!

    
    	DREAM_THEATRE.JPG had better be a good one, since I'm replacing
    	my Rachel Hunter background with it.
    
    	8^)
    
    	[I have a feeling it CAN'T be that good.  8^)]
    
    							GTI

Too cool -=   Thanks Mike!!!

    
    	Not as good as Rachel, but it'll do.
    
    	Thanks!!
    
    							GTI

    That's what Rod Stewart said too.

    Guess what my pause screen is now?

    Rachel Hunter?!                               
    
    Joe Satriani!
    
    >-< Pause Theatre >-
    
    you spelled it wrong.

    ANY way to convert .gif files for use on a vt340 or similar terminal?
    I have read the previous string and saw no mention of it.
    
    
    				Thanks,
    				Jason

    
    re: -1
    
    No.

    
    	I believe there is a conversion to go to a sixel file, but I
    	don't know where to find it or anything about it, for that
    	matter.
    
    							GTI

    I believe a program called UTOX will do it.
    

    If I recall, one of the formats that XV will convert to is PostScript. 
    I think the CDA Viewer application will read that and probably convert
    to something that your terminal can display.  Be aware, though, that
    the quality of the PostScript version for most pictures is extremely
    poor.
    
    Greg