Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    
    Gonna buy the CD ttomorrow....
    
    I taped HBB...saw the vid sunday...cool
    
    
    
    			Ckid/Metal

    
    this band picked their name AFTER they found out the group they were
    backing up???
    
    how peculiar...
    
    

    most def dude!

    I saw them on the HBB Saturday night.  I'd fallen asleep on the sofa
    and woke up right as their video started, so I was kind of in a daze
    and I couldn't remember the name of the band, but I remembered it was
    something odd and that the song busted me up.
    
    gh

	I like that song too.   I think it is cool and funny.  Chris
	did you pick up the CD?  What did you think of it?  I am 
	thinking about getting it.  Let me know..

	BTW I believe the title should be 'Ugly Kid Joe'
				  and not 'Ulgy Kid Joe'



						-Seth

      I got the advance cassette of them.....
    
         There white alcholic trash...
              We're not glam and we ain't thrash.
    
                 Pretty cool attitude.
    
               There funky with a hard edge...I like it!
    
                               Frizkid
    

    
    I bought it, and it's pretty cool, E.A.Y. is 'bad a**' (my southern
    expression for the day:) 
    
    It isn't easy to find (now anyway) but it is worth it.
    
    Bad part is only 5 songs  8(
    
    "I don't like your mother"
    " And I...I hate yer daddy's guts too...boo hoo"
    "I don't like a thing about yer sister...nooo noo"
    "Cause I think sex is overrated too"
    
    
    Chris

    I got this, it's a keeper fer sher!  Can't give a review, cuz I haven't
    listened to it all yet...
    
    'pril 
    
    p.s. Friz, sex IS WAY overrated, btw!

	So Chris where did you get it then...

	I have been to...

	Strawberries
	Coconuts
	Record Town
	MusicLand
	Newberry (sp?) Comics
	Beat 'n' Trax

	and I can't find it....  Where please tell me....


							-Seth
	

    So has everybody heard these guys and their song "(I hate) Everything
    about you"?
            Their getting massive play here in C.S.!
    
                        Frizkid
    

    
    
    I heard it the other night on the radio..
    
    
    I don't like it though
    
    
    
    Goddess F.

    
    
    It's a riot. The lyrics are so funny. The music..so-so.

I would have to agree with Chris on this one.


I don't think the tape/CD is worth the $$



						-Seth

    To be honest.....I like the lyrics in that one song.
    
     I have the promo and the rest of it kinda blows.
    
            We're white, alcoholic trash.....We ain't glam and we ain't
    thrash.
    
            Best line on the whole tape.....
    
                               Frizkid
    

    
    	Even though I saw "Wayne's World", I don't remember their song
    	being in it ... but I did hear it this morning during one of my
    	extremely rare "radio listening" rides into work.
    
    	What a great song!!  It's a riot!!
    
    							GTI

These guys sound too much like Billy Squier to me...

But who cares...

Timbo

    "Everything about you" is the 2nd tune played in the film.  Right after
    the car scene with Bohemian Rhapsody, they do to the donut shop, talk
    to the cop, and then get munchies...the tune starts playing when they
    are at the donut shop.
    
    
    Buck, who wants to know where KIX' "Chills" is played in this movie?
    (They made mention of it last night!)

    - taken without permission from Rolling Stone magazine, issue 629.
    
    
    NEW FACES
                                               
    Ugly Kid Joe
    
    Living out their fantasies
    
    
    
    Booked to play with the glam rocker Pretty Boy Floyd two years ago, the
    then nameless metal band Ugly Kid Joe took the gig and scrambled for a
    memorable moniker.  Forever clowning around, vocalist Whitfield Crane,
    guitarist Klaus Eichstadt, drummer Mark Davis and guitarist Roger Lahr
    (bassist Cordell Crockett joined later) swapped their temporary tag -
    Surburban Alcoholic White Trash (SWAT) - for something with marquee
    appeal.  Crane explains that Ugly Kid Joe captures the cheeky bent of
    the band and "is an amalgamation of all of us, a scrappy little bratty
    kid that likes to drink and f(ck negative authority - everyone kind of
    likes him, even though they kind of hate him."
    
    The Pretty Boy Floyd date didn't happen - but Ugly Kid Joe did.
    
    Never dreaming that it would be anything more than a small-town party
    band from Isla Vista, California, Ugly Kid Joe caught the ears of a
    Santa Barbara DJ who, impressed by the songs' "demented lyrical
    content" and the motley mix of metal, funk and thrash, directed the
    band's demo to entertainment lawyer Dennis Rider (now the band's
    manager).  Rider sent it to Bob Skoro of Mercury Records; after seeing
    one performance, Skoro started talking futures.  "He acted so fact,"
    Eichstadt recalls.  "It was like a gut thing."
    
    *As Ugly As They Wanna Be*, Ugly Kid Joe's debut EP, has spawned three
    singles:  "Funky Fresh Country Club," which incorporated Black
    Sabbath's "Sweet Leaf"; the melodic, metal-edged "Everything About
    You," featured on the *Wayne's World* soundtrack and which Eichstadt
    calls "an antilove song"; and "Madman", a headbanger blitzkrieg about a
    lunatic loose in Disneyland.  Completing the mind-blowing package:  MTV
    notoriety, nonstop touring, an album and a summer tour with Ozzy
    Osbourne.  
    
    Friends - and die-hard Ozzy fans - since eighth grade, Crane and
    Eichstadt, now twenty-four, are living out their adolescent fantasies. 
    "At this point, it's a band that really cares about each other," says
    Crane, "and we look at each other like 'What the f(ck is this?'  It's
    insane.  It's the most fantastic thing I've been involved with - ever."
    
    
    
    Goddess F.

    
    I'm going to have to get this album, the song cracks me up every time I
    hear it.
    
    Flip

    Yes.....and suprisingly it`s gone in at uglytastically sensational
    number 14,mate.
    
    -Dave Nicey.
    

    
    Oh yeah, the drummer is another Rob lookalike, at least in the video.
    
    ...even has the same wardrobe.                                       
    
    

    
    
    Never seen them, but I can say "I HATE THAT SONG".
    
    :')
    

    Yea? Was he wearing a tux with his hair poofed to the roof?
    
     8)
             Frizkid
    

    
    Nah, that's you that is, Frisby.  8^)
    
    He was wearing Rob's purple Everlast shirt, long black hair (yes, I
    know it's blond now but I've never seen Rob with blond hair)...it just
    looked like rob.
    
    

    
    He reminded me of the drummer for Nirvana.

FWIW Flip - The rest of the album ain't bad...
Wicked cool cover of Sweet Leaf on it !!
jc (Old Sabbath fan)

    One of the best releases I've listened to in months.  Some smoking
    songs on this release.
    
    The full length album should be excellent.
    
    HMRatt
    

    High on the surprise of their "Ugly As they wanna be" EP, UKJ will
    issue their first full length album "America's Least Wanted", in late
    July/early August. The single will be "Won't you be my neighbor".
    
              FrizWhiz
    

    I can't figure out how these guys got so popular with only an EP out!
    
    gh

    Mtv...Radio....The Ozzy tour?
    
            Take your pick!
    
             Friz
    

    Right, but how'd they get that?  Most bands *I* know can't even get
    local radio stations to play them.  SOMEONE must have been pushing them
    somewhere!!!  
    
    Since when does Ozzy take unknowns on tour with him?
    
    gh

I don't suppose it could be cuz the Ugly As Theey Wanna Be album is
cool ?

I be likin' it...
jc

    Yeah, but it's an EP, like only 5 songs on it, right?  Not many bands
    starting out these days with just an EP.
    
    gh

    
    	I have a feeling the airplay generated from the popularity of
    	"Wayne's World" got alot of people to buy it.
    
    							GTI

    Thanks Shawn, that's the one reply that makes sense to me.  Wayne's
    World was a low budget film which people didn't really expect much
    from, but it turned into a runaway success.  Makes sense that it helped
    UKJ out on it's way.  I'd forgotten that one of their songs was on that
    soundtrack.
    
    gh

    RE   Greg
    
    
    I know they played the UKJ song during the movie, but I don't
    think it's even on the soundtrack!  Doesn't make sense...
    
    
    Steve

     Plus the song didn't even last that long in the movie. Most viewers
    probably didn't even know who it was.
    
     I'd say it's from Mtv plugging the sh*t out of it....
    
                Friz
    

    re: -1
    
    Radio stations plugged the sh*t out of it too.  At least in MASS, and
    Albuquerque when I was there.
    
    I just heard their new song called 'Neighbors' (or was it Neighborhood?)
    Anyway it ROCKS!  It's better than 'Everything About You' I think. 
    It's heavier, kind of Megadeth sounding.  The singer sounds a little
    Vince Neil-ish at times (but better).
    
    It beat Motorheads ballad with Ozzy on rock wars.  Which was also a
    good song.  (heard that one for the first time too)
    
    You can be sure you're going to hear this one rattling the airwaves for
    a few months!
    
    Ken
    (can't make up my mind on how to sign!)
    

    So what does anybody think of the new song "Neighbor"?
       Does anybody have the new album?  I heard they do a cover of
    "Cat's in the Cradle"???
    The video is ULTRA-GROSS! The person that cast that hair on the
    back,toothless,nose picking,toe jam licking,sock smelling,groin
    itching, on the toilet guy...should get an award or something.
    
    I heard the video was shot in Denver. 
    
                  Friz
    

    I remember them doin"Cats_In_The_Cradle"durin the MTV Beach_Break
    thing.  Was slow and alittle too long for me..But I haven't heard
    the recorded version yet..
    
    
               Crazy_ACCCHHHHH_Peeet_TWOooooo_EEeeeeeee_Al
           

    Yeah, the part where the dude was sitting on the toilet picking his
    nose was expecially repulsive...and he wiped it on the towl!!  8-P  
    
    yuk
    
    'pril

    
    	"Neighbor" cranks!!
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    The Whole album is RULIN'... I bought it the day it came out and I was
    quite suprised. Despite the 3 or 4 ballads the rest of the album is
    insane. "The Goddamn Devil" has back-up vocals by Rob "I'm being talked
    about in H_M" Halford.
    
    
    BUY IT!

    
    	I finally got this album Saturday night ... was on sale for
    	$12.99 at Strawberries.  And worth every penny, because this
    	is a GREAT album.
    
    	These guys are very heavy, espeially when you compare most
    	of this album to "Everything About You".
    
    	"Neighbor"
    	"Panhandlin' Prince"
    	"Goddamn Devil"
    	"Madman [in Disneyland]"
    
    							GTI
    

    
    On what album is "Cats In The Cradle"?
    Just love the song.
    
    
    
    Hannu

    Re:-1
    
    The new one.
    

    
    	Yeah, and they did a great job on it, too!!
    
    	Very true to the original.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    OK, here's my $.02 worth.
    
    I bought America's Least Wanted day before yeasterday and have
    given it a front-to-back listen twice (and I can't tell you
    how many times I've listened to just "Neighbor" and "Everything
    About You".  These 2 songs crack me up.)
    
    Simply put, I love it!
    
    These guys really crank and have some depth to their style
    ranging from the hard 'n crunchy to the light 'n funky.
    I also think they did an admirable job covering "Cats In The
    Cradle"
    
    Do I need to mention that these guys obviously had sh!tloads of
    fun making this album?  The sound bites interspersed throughout
    are hilarious.  I especially like the, ahem, sound effects in
    the bridge on "Neighbor."
         
    This is one R00lin CD, d00dz!  Check it out!
    
    Oh, yeah, I hadn't seen anyone else mention it, so I'll add
    that Rob Halford did backing vocals on "Goddamn Devil"
    
    -- 
    Kevin

    
    	Chris Escobar mentioned Rob Halford's backing vocals ... I only
    	noticed that because I was going to put it in here until I real-
    	ized I was too late.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

       I got my new issue of Rolling Stone in the mail the
    other day and there was an article about Ugly Kid Joe.
    They said they got their name from the time they first
    went on the road and opened for Pretty Boy Floyd.  Was
    they're first album the first album with the new name or
    did they have another album out with another name?
    
       I read replies .1-.5 and other people know about this
    but there was no real reason about their name change.
    
    BJ

    
    	They didn't have a name at show time, so they picked "Ugly
    	Kid Joe" as a satire of "Pretty Boy Floyd" ... and decided
    	to keep it.
    
    	That must've been quite the show ... I think UKJ probably
    	blew PBF off the stage!!
    
    							GTI

    
    	actually, the show never happened... pbf cancelled and left 
    	ukj hangin'.  they still weren't sold on the name, but in 
    	promotion of the show someone (i think in the band) drew a 
    	caricature of the little 'ukj' dude and the band loved it
    	so they kept the name anyway....
    
    	/b

    Pretty boy Floyd...............the worst of the worst.I like Warrant
    more than I like these guys(I can say that now that Friz ain't here!)
    
    
    
                                                 Staynz
    

    Pretty Puke Floyd...aaaaaack!  A friend of mine ran sound at one of
    their shows here in town and he said they sucked really bad.  Said
    there was a dude backstage that played all the vocal harmonies on a
    keyboard sampler while the respective members of the band lip synched
    to dead mikes.  Lame, *really* lame.
    
    gh

    
    
    
    YOUR ALL LAME! PBF RULES!!! THESE GUYS LOOK AND SOUND COOL! GOTTA
    LOVE THAT POSEUR IMAGE! THEY KICK METALLICA'S BUTT!
    
    
    FRIZJIM-
    

    
    Re: -1
    
    You didn't spell anything wrong...
    
    

    
    	RE: last 2
    
    	"YOUR" should be "YOU'RE".
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

    	GH, Did the guy who ran sound mention the band Halfway Home?? 
    	They were touring with UKJ. I have the Halfway Home CD. I 
    	really like the band alot and can't wait for them to get to
    	the New England area. My buddy engineered and Co-Produced the CD.
    
    	Has anyone seen or heard the band??
    
    	Later,
    		Dave

    
    
    	re:GTI 
    
    	Ya gotta spell it that way! 

    re: Dave
    
>    	GH, Did the guy who ran sound mention the band Halfway Home?? 
>    	They were touring with UKJ. 
    
    No, I think you misunderstood my note.  He did sound for Pretty Boy
    Floyd, not UKJ, and the negative comments were about PBF.
    
>    I have the Halfway Home CD. I 
>    	really like the band alot and can't wait for them to get to
>    	the New England area. My buddy engineered and Co-Produced the CD.
    
    What's it like?  Similar to UKJ?
                                    
    gh
                                                                       

    	I should have read the note instead of skimming over it, I thought
    	you were talking about someone in UKJ calling hima a Pretty Boy.
    	OHHHH well.
    
    	They do have a song or two with there style I guess. They also have 
    	a Led Zep type sound to them. The only problem I see with them
    	becomming well known is the record companies approach to marketing
    	them. They created a company called Halfway Home Productions or 
    	something like that for a label. They are trying to make it seem
    	like they were this band from some unknown label that they
    	discovered.  Once that happens they will release the other material
    	already recorded and ready to go on the major label.
    
    	I'm not very good at album reviews so I quess thats about it.
    
    	Later,
    		Dave

    YEAH!!!!! I got 5th row seats for them....... I have two extra tix but
    that might turn into just one extra!
                                        Rat

    Just saw the last part of their video for 'Cats in the Cradle'... LOVED
    IT!! 
    
    DYLIW its only two more days until you see them!!
    DYRLIW they're gonna be at our local record store Friday for an
           autograph signing and so will I!!!
    DYHIW you'll probably be surrounded by a bunch of screaming annoying
          little teeny boppers! UGH!! 
                                      Rat

    
    
    do what I do when it comes to annoying wee shites.....
    
    
    
    beat the crap out of them!  8)
    
                                                staynz.....mr liberal! 8)

You kiddin', she's gonna oogle and grope the high schoolers.  She's
no fool.

-a

    or the band! :)

    Same thing...

    
    
    
    
    Saw part of the new UKJ vid.. looked cool..

    
    
    
    
    Hmmmmmm....

    umm,
    
    Does anyone have some or all the lyrics to "Neighbor" they could send
    me quick like ??  I almost wet my pants when I first heard this toon!
    
    jc

    
      - "neighbor" is a cool tune! Who cares if it was inspired by
    Mr. Rogers. 
    							-nuff
    							-B{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}
    M-

    I think the guit-player is classy!!  I love his chops, even if Petrucci
    is GOD !!
    
    jc

    Hey, the guy who plays the "Mr. Roger's Theme" is ultra-class.
    
    He's widely respected among keyboard players and has been interviewed
    several times in Keyboard magazine.

    I saw this Mr Rogers punter when I was in the US.Greg and I were
    engrossed while Gregs' 16 month old daughter lost interest rapidly and
    read! 8)
    
    
                                                 ian

    "Can you say BITCH ?  I thought you could.  Go tell Mommy BITCH.
     If she slaps the crap out of you, you got it right."
    
    :-)
    
    Hey Shawn, how about those lyrics, buddy ole pal, ole chum??
    
    :-)

    
    	I had a 9-12 meeting ... they're on the way.
    
    							GTI

    Kool!
    
    Those lyrics crack me UP!

    It's a beautiful day in my neighborhood
    a beautiful day for a neighbor
    won't you be mine
    would you be mine
    would you be my neighbor
    
    O O
     v
     O

    
    
     Yeah, won't you be my F***in' neighbor! 8^)
    
                                                   m
    

    NIT!
    
    It's actually 'FUNKY' neighbor...
    :-)
                                     

    
    
     Coop, Not when they do it live. 8^)
    
                                             m
    

    Agreed.   Just ask Arsenio...
    :-)

    
     Coop, why what happened on Arsenio's show? Did they say a naughty
    word?
    
              m
    

    The were *supposed* to play "Cats In The Cradle" and Arsenio even
    announced "Ugly Kid Joe, doing their new single 'Cats In The Cradle'"
    and out comes "Neighbor".  :-)
    
    jc

>    It's actually 'FUNKY' neighbor...
    
    Not in the version *I* heard, you must have the "radio" version.
    
    gh

Re: a few back

Did you get the lyrics for "Neighbor".

If not I will post them here in a couple hours

Paul

PS Caught them live at Sheffield, UK supporting DEF LEPPARD.  Both bands
were excellent.

    
    	Yes, I sent them over.
    
    							GTI

    And I thank you very much (both of ya!!)!!
    jc

OK Then,

Anybody got the lyrics for Cat in the Cradle or I Hate Everything.

I don't have the albums so I don't know if they have them printed.

Thanks,

Paul

    The album has the lyrics to 'Everything about you' but not to 'Cats in
    the cradle'.  
    
    
    
    
    Gary

    
    	Anything in the works from these guys?
    
    	I was just reminded of them in another conference and realized
    	it's been 2-3 years since they released their last album.
    
    	Time to dust it off and play it again!!
    
    							GTI

>    	Anything in the works from these guys?
    
    Probably some day jobs...

    
    	You're just jealous.  I can tell.
    
    							GTI
    

    Not really, I've had a day job for several years.  Has it's good
    points, but most of the time it's just a pain.
    
    gh

    
    
    
    
    
    
    Just read in a magazine that new album "Menace to Sobriety" is due on
    June 6Th. According to the interview, it Looks to be heavier than 
    "America's...".
    
    They also have a new drummer : Shannon Larkin who used to play in a
    band called SOULS AT ZERO...
    
    Fred.

    
    	It's about time!!
    
    	I've been waiting for this one for a few years now!!
    

    Great Title!!!!

    I picked up "Menace to Sobriety" yesterday at Virgin.
    
    The album contains 14 tracks for less than 50 minutes long.
    Bad news, lyrics are not included, so I fear I'll have to try to guess
    what the songs are about (And it's much harder when english is not your
    native language).
    first track, "intro", is of course an instrumental (Useless, IMHO).
    Fortunately, the rest of the album is far better. All tunes are worth
    a listen, and if you like diversity you should go for it.
    "Tomorrow's World","CUST","Milkman's Son","Suckerpath","Jesus Rode a
    Harley","10/10","VIP"...Best ones, IMO. Even a Ballad ("Cloudy Skies")
    and an accoustic ("Candle Song") included.
    Something's surely missing from "America's...", the FUN. But I think
    UKJ just want to be recognized as a real Metal band now...
    
    At last, the album is dedicated to the memory of Roy CORTEZ, whose
    picture is obviously on the back sleeve. Forgive my ignorance, I
    don't know who Roy CORTEZ is, maybe a Bullfighter ???
            
    Fred.

    
    	The reason I liked "America's Least Wanted" was that it was a
    	fun album ... hopefully the content of this one can make up
    	for the missing fun.
    
    	That is, if I can find it!!  I'll go back to Newbury Comics
    	again tonight and take a look.
    

    
    	Well, after 98974623764782  listens, I really like "Menace to
    	sobriety".
    	Definitely one of the best release I've heard this year.
    
    	Any one got it too ?
    
    	Fred.
    

    
    	I finally found it last Friday night ... hopped over to the
    	"Beat 'n' Trax" store near the Westboro Cinemas before "Batman"
    	started and I think I might have gotten their last [only?] copy.
    
    	I've given it 2.5 listens [it's in the car now] and I do like
    	it.  The "fun" from the previous album is definitely gone, and
    	as Rob says, it's alot like the new Skid Row stuff.
    
    	I'm starting to like it more and more.
    

    
    	After 5-6 listens, this is a great album.  I'd say it's as good as
    	their last one, but for different reasons.
    
    	"America's Least Wanted" was great because it was a fun, rockin'
    	album.  "Menace to Sobriety" is great because it's a heavy, rockin'
    	and catchy album.  High points are "Clover" and "Jesus Rode a
    	Harley", and there's even a pretty good power ballad.
    
    	Definitely recommended.
    

    
    	Took the Duster for a ride last night and gave the new one a
    	spin using a REAL stereo system ... it's amazing what bass can
    	do for an album.
    
    	Sounds fantastic.
    

bass is great...

    
    	Bass sucks ... I was talking about the drums.
    
    	8^)
    

    
    	Finally decided to pick up the debut album a couple weeks ago.
    	Not bad ... I'd already heard "Madman" and "I Hate Everything
    	About You".  Are these the same versions that were on "America's
    	Least Wanted", or were they remastered for the 2nd album?  Sound
    	the same to me.
    
    	Never heard the original "Sweet Leaf", but UKJ's version is def-
    	initely good.
    
    	And "Too Bad" rips.
    

    Re: Shawn
    
    On America's Least Wanted they do a remix of Hate Everything About You.
    It starts off with Pat (the androgenous person from Sat Nite Live)
    talkin and it's pretty dumb.  They should have left that part out.
    Other than that I think Least Wanted is better than the debut cause
    it has more songs on it, even if they are covers.  More for your
    dollar.
    
    Shane, who is back from Christmas but my luggage is still on vacation

    
    	Good point ... forgot about the voice-over.
    
    	But I think that's the only difference.
    

    	FWIW, they are in the studio right now, not sure when they will be 
    	finished, or what kind of release date they are looking at. 
    	My buddy Jim was running late, as usual and the band was 
    	already at the studio, so our conversation was brief.
    
    	Later,
    		Dave

    Bummer.
    -ss

    
    	I picked up "Motel California" last night ... didn't even know
    	it existed until I happened to see it at Newbury Comics, but
    	it's been out for at least a month since it's got a '96 date
    	of release on it.
    
    	After 1 listen, it's not bad.  Not their best, though.  He's
    	still got a great voice, and the musicality is good.