Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    
    	   "Wanted Dead Or Alive"!!!!!!
    
    		'Nuff said.
    
    			-=[MOSAT]=-
    				(losing control again)

    
    	I was never into "Pretty Boy" Rock N Roll, but Bon Jovi does
    	have some good songs.....
    
    	3 of My Favorite are .....
    
    	Social Disease      
    	Wanted Dead Or Alive
    	I'd die for you. (I think that's the name of it??)
    
    
    					Later,
    	
    						The_Frankster
    
    		Don't D & D, you might spill your drink..
    

                     
    Best:
    Wanted Dead or Alive, Tokyo Road and Love Lines (I think that's
    what its called).
         
    Worst:
    Never Say Goodbye
    
    Videos: Breakout, Slippery.

    -Tony 

    RE: .5
    
    The name of the song is 'Love Lies' (you had it as Love Lines).
    
    Now that I'm in here - I will tell you my vote for some of their
    most awesome songs.  I love this group so I'll limit my list to
    just a few.
    
    
    Silent Night
    Runaway
    Roulette
    She Don't Know Me
    Without Love
    Never Say Goodbye
    Let It Rock
    Shot Through the Heart
    
    Tracy
    
    

    
         RE: Tracy
    
             When you say 'Shot Through the Heart', which song do
             you mean ... 'You Give Love a Bad Name'?
    
                                                          Shawn L.
    

    
    RE: Shawn
    
    	I mean 'Shot Through the Heart'.  That is the name of
    	the song isn't it?  They do have that exact line ('Shot
    	Through the Heart...') in the song 'You Give Love a Bad
    	Name'. 
    
    	I would have said 'You Give Love a Bad Name' if that 
    	was the one I meant but it wasn't
    
    	Tracy
    
    

    
        RE: Tracy
    
            That's what I thought, but alot of people refer to 'You
            Give Love a Bad Name' as 'Shot Through the Heart' because
            those are the first words.
    
            Most of the Bon Jovi fans started liking him after 'Slippery'
            because that's the pseudo-metal stuff that people like.
            But I figured you knew the difference.
    
                                                       Shawn L.
    

    Since Jon "discovered" Cinderella I figured this would be a good
    topic to ask this.  Has anyone heard if Cinderella is working on
    a new release or are they sitting back counting their money.  Enquiring
    minds are slightly interested ...........
    
    				Mr Scary II

    
    
        I had heard on Headbangers Ball a little while ago that they
    were going to release a new album in May. But, now it's June so
    who knows.
    
    /Bill
    

    I know I should probably already know this, and I probably do, but
    just spaced it. But does anyone out there know Jon's stat's??? I
    dreamt about him last nite, and in the dream he was taller than
    me.  I was thinking about that while in #87 and it got me curious...
    
    -renee--->

    
    
    	Well, according to WAAF (radio station in Boston, MA)
    	Bon Jovi's new album is due to hit the stores on Sept.
    	15.  The name of the album is New Jersey.
    
    	The single, Bad Medicine, is due to hit the airwaves
    	on September 7...keep your ears open!
    
    	According to AAF sources, the album is supposed to be
    	less glitzy and more "heavy" as Rick Mckenzie put it.
    
    	Tig~~

        I read awhile ago that Jon and Richie co-wrote a song off Ted
        Nugent's latest album called "That's the Story of Love".
    
        I'm looking forward to hearing the new album.
    
    Rae

    
    
    YIPPEE!!! YAHOOO!!! <jump for joy..>
    
    YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
   
    
    -extremelypsychednee>

    ....you were at a party with BonJovi??????
    
    Define Record Release Party...and how you get invited to them!!!!
    
    Buck? Hello? Are you there?
    
    -renee>

>    re. Record Release Party....
>    
>    A band plays some place, and declares that night the official "record
>    release party" for publicity's sake. I did one with The Gorehounds.
>    We headlined the Rathskeller that night.
    
Well, this is true for a local band, but this isn't what Buck was talking
about. Whenever a new album bya major artist is being released, the label
usually throws a record release party. Usually these are just excuses
for people to eat and drink for free. All that happens is that local radio
and retil people, along with the record company staff, are invited to
a place (usually a club) for a couple hours, where you get free food and
drinks and listen to the new album about 10 times over.

They are actually pretty boring, usually. Occasionally, the artist will
appear, which makes it much more interesting. For example, Elton John
was at the release party for his new LP at Spit, and he played a few
old hits for about half-an-hour. And at the redord release party I went
to for Crowded House, the band played for a little while. But these
occurences are rare.

I sincerely doubt that the band was at this record release party, although
they could have been.

BTW, I've met Jon before (actually, a couple times). He's a pretty nice
guy - not too much of an ego or anything. Also, last I knew, he was
very dedicated to his girlfriend (sorry gals!).

cat

    I caught part of an interview with JBJ on MTV Music News when I
    was putting on my clothes one morning earlier this week.
    
    He said that he was definately single and probably would be for
    some time (ie, no prospects).  He said "there's probably no girls
    out there that would want me for more than about 10 minutes".  (this
    IS a quote, no personal opinion here...)
    
    gh

    Re: .20...
    	I read a similar statement in the latest Rolling Stone.  When
    asked about women in his life he said, "No woman could stand me
    for more than 20 minutes, maybe even 10" or something like that.
    
    joe.(>30,earring,longish_hair_getting_longer) Oh yeah, wouldn't
    mind dating some professional-type women, but my wife would get
    pissed off and I'd feel too guilty anyway; 'sides we have a great
    relationship!!
    
    Keep rockin' and don't get any on ya.
    joe.
    

    I COULD STAND HIM FOR MORE THAN 20 MINUTES!!!! No problem!!
    
    Why couldn't any woman stand him for more than 20 mintes? What does
    he have really bad breath or bad body odor?? SO I'LL CARRY AN EXTRA
    SUPPLY OF BREATHSAVERS OR PIT STICK!!! I WILL get over it!!!
    
    Set us up, Alan! I would be eternally grateful! As far as this
    girlfriend scene goes? Normally, I am a woman of honor. If a person
    has a committment to another, than I will leave him alone....
    
    ~HOWEVER~
    
    These are not normal circumstances. You see, I honestly believe
    he and I are be together someday. Really! You'll see.....so will
    he given the chance....;') :')
    
    
    -wicked-JBJ-fan>

    Has anyone heard the frist single off the New Jersey album yet?
    
    Any reviews??
    
    Rae

    
    
    	Think it was supposed to hit the airwaves today...guess
    	we'll just have to listen and hear, eh?
    
    	Tig~~

    
         Actually it hit the airwave on Monday the 5th. I forgot
         to keep the radio on.  
    
         Rae

    
    
    
    
    	Well...I tried to get in here in time to tell everyone
    	that AAF was just playing it, but it's too late, now
    	they're playing Dream On.  OH well.
    
    	SO!  Who's heard it?  I know that Renee has...Rae, did
    	you get it to come in on the radio yet?
    
    	It's pretty good.  I can't turn up the radio too loud,
    	so I can experience it at full volume, but I like it
    	more than their last "venture". 
    
    	It IS heavier.  What's the verdict everyone?
    
    	Tig~~

    Well Kim it is like this....
    
      This a.m. I'm getting ready for work rockin to my newly purchased
    Cinderalla tape.  I said to myself "self you should probably be
    listening to the radio you are probably missing Bad Medicine." 
    So, listening to myself as I usually do (no one else does 8^)) I
    shut off Cinderella (as difficult as it was, I love that tape) and
    sure enough I just catch the end of Bad Medicine.  I heard enough
    to know I like it.  I can't wait til the 19th til the album hits
    the stores,  I"ll be there and then they go on tour, I'll be there.
    Life just doesn't get any better!
    
    TCR1

        not that i want to start any flames  :-)  BUT

  
             i thought "Bad Medicine" WAS bad!

             guess i just don't appreciate good music
             anymore!  but seriously, it really didn't
             have any appeal.  just a loud metal romp.

             may it will grow on me?
                                          tlr

    
        Your not going to start any flames your entitled to your opinion
        and I respect you for that.
    
    
        but don't ever come in the Bon Jovi note again!!!  8^) 8^)
    
    Rae

    News...............
    
      Saturday night everyone's favority channel MTV will be showing
    the making of the Bad Medicine video and then world premering the
    video.  This all happens at 10 o'clock.   All I have to say is where
    ever I am sat nite better have MTV or I'm going home!
    
    Rae

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    	Do we all know who's album is (finally) being released
    	today?
    
    	Yes, it Bon Jovi....
    
    	Hey Renee and Rae did you see the special on MTV on how
    	they made their "Bad Medicine" video?
    
    	Gawd, I'd do anything to be one of those girls that were
    	on stage with them!!
    
    	(if you haven't seen it, Jon's hair is still fabulous!!)
    
    	And they said that for their tour they want to do the same
    	things (bringing people up on stage....etc)
        	Twist my arm!!....  ;-)
    
    	JJ
    
    	
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    	re:  EUCLID::OWEN
    
    
    	PPPPPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHH!!
    
        :)  :)  :)  :)
    

    Musicially I don't care for 'em.  But to have the $bucks$ that Jon
    bon Jovi has wouldn't be so bad. 

    
        I don't care what everyone thinks, but 'Bad Medicine' (the
        song) is sounding better every time I hear it.
    
                                                       GTI
    

    
    Bon Jovi ?? A thumbs *UP* from over the pond.
    
    Bad Medicine *cooks*
    
    -Tony

    Listening to Bad Medicine puts me in a GREAT mood!
    
    No JJ missed the show Sat Nite.  Was out and no MTV.  It is being
    replayed this wednesday at 7:30 for those of us who missed it.
    
    Rae

                
                All right, I'll admit it.  I didn't like the song
                at first (in  fact,  I  hated it), but the more I
                listen to it, the  more  I  like  it (and knowing
                eMpTyV and the radio, eventually  it  will get to
                the point where the more I hear it, the more I'll
                hate it.  It's still going up . . . for now).
                
                

    
    
    re: .36 Rae,
    
    	You mean I can watch it again!!!  ;-)  ;-)
    
    	Jon is still luscious.....and Richie too!!  The only
    	noticeable I noticed that Jon changed is......no, I'll
    	spoil it for ya!  :)
    
    	My SO will have to sit thru another half hour of me
    	saying  "where was I when this happened....why didn't
    	they call me?"
    
    	New album means new tour....whatta say girls...should
    	we make a party of it?!
    
    	JJ
    

re: Bon Jovi tour

I heard that the tour is going to start in Japan and then Europe (or was
it the other way around), and then hit the States next spring - just in
time for those lucrative outdoor stadium shows!

cat

    I said it:
    
    Europe dates from Sept - DEC
    Japan in January
    Over to Hawaii and the West Coast in the Spring
    Back East by Summer
    Then back to Europe and Australia
    
    You girls got a wait
    Buck who already has tix and passes (hahahaha)

    Yes JJ we will make a party of it.
    
    Buck what can I bribe you with!!!!!??!!
    
    Rae

    How old is Bon Jovi ?
    
    jc

    jc
    
      Jon Bon is 26 or 27 I'm not 100% sure which.
    
    Rae

    
    
    	re :  .40
    
    	bribes huh?..........
    
    	hmmmm
    

    Well Girls,
    
       I caught the Bon Jovi special last night!!!  All I have to say
    is DROOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!  I'd say Richie has been
    hitting the iron his upperbod is definately build up!
    
       The video is great and fun to watch!  
    
    Rae

    
    
    	re: .45
    
    	Rae-
    
    	I kinda thought you'd like it!!   (the inside cover of the
    	cassette tape isn't bad either!!)
    
    	In fact the whole tape is excellent!  Have you bought it yet?
    
    	Strawberries had it on sale Monday...I don't know if it's still
    	on.....
    
    	JJ
    

    
        JJ -
    
        Nope I haven't bought it yet, I haven't been to the stores
        yet.  Maybe I'll pick it up tonight.
    
        Can't wait for the tour!
    
        Rae

    I have to admit, I watched part of that BJ special on MTV when I
    got home last night.  I'm not hating 'Bad Medicine', the song, as
    much now that I've heard it a couple of times.  I still think it's
    pulp, but can actually manage to sit through the entire song now
    without changing stations or vomiting.
    
    gh

    
    I too have got the new album, and I thinks its good.  I like "Love
    For Sale", "Bad Medicine" and "Blood on Blood" the most, in that
    order.
    
    Love for sale's got some good Sambora guitar work on it.

    I think it's got a Bruce Springsteen sound. Don't get me wrong I
    still don't care for BS, but it sounded alright with my hunni-bunns
    singing it. 
    
    I especially like the song 'Born to be my baby'...yeh,yeh,yeh..
    
    There are alot of ballads on there, that's fine, I LOVE ballads,
    especially sung by my one and only....................
                                                        ......
                                                           ........jon.
    
    -reneebongiovi>

    Excuse me kids but you are no longer discussing Bon Jovi here! 8^)
    Wanna move this senseless disscussion to the men's locker room or
    the misc note??!!??!!?!?!?! 8^)
    
    Rae

    
    
    	Whilst listening to WAAF on my way home last night, I
    	heard a song off the New Jersey album (haven't gotten	
    	the tape yet) called "Be My Baby" or something like
    	that.
    
    	It sounded like a modified remake of Living on a Prayer.
    	Same type of boy loves girl loves boy type thing.
    	
    
    	Tig~~ (just my two cents)
    

    
>    	It sounded like a modified remake of Living on a Prayer.

I think that "Bad Medicine" sounds like a modified remake of "Social
Disease" - I sounds like JBJ ran out of (musical) ideas!

cat

    Actually, I think that JBJ is *really* Tom Sholtz from Boston!
	;^) 	:^)	8^)	:^0
    
    I only say this because even though I hadn't heard the new album
    by the boy-gawd from NJ, I do have three of his vinyls.  They are
    all about the same, musically.  It'd be a great opportunity if you
    wanted to have a Bon Jovi dedication_type band... learn one tune,
    and you got four albums worth of material !    ;^)
    
    jc
    (who_lost_all_respect_for_this_guy_when_I_saw_him_in_concert-
     _and_he_threw_the_american_flag_he_was_wearing_on_the_floor)
    

    
    "Love for Sale" is the best track from the album.

    Hey hey hey...Let's stop dragging Bruce's name thru the mud here
    your making me angry...Yous won't like me when I'm angry! 8^)
    
    Rae

    I have not heard the entire new (jersey) album, but what I've heard has
    been very underwhelming.  As I said in the Over-played note, I'm
    starting to get sick of Bad Medicine already.  One of the songs I heard
    also reminded me of Bruce Sp.... (can't say it...). 
    
    I heard something that might be a clue as to some of the reason it
    lacks originality.  JBJ said they (the band, producers, etc) didn't
    pick the material to go on the new album, they did a sort of 'market
    survey' by getting 50 kids together and played a bunch of songs for
    them.  Then they had the kids rate the songs and they used the results
    to determine what went on the album. (I heard him say this in an
    excerpt of an interview on the radio, his own words...) 
    
    No wonder it's *&^^%ing repetative!  If you have kids listen to 5 songs
    once through, they are gonna pick the one that sounds most familiar as
    the best because it's the most accessable.  Perhaps it's a way to sell
    more records, but it's crap as far as I'm concerned, because your not
    making music, but making money.  I guess that's the name of the game. 
    
    gh 
                                                                          

    OKAY, OKAY, OKAY, enough ranking on Jon and Co., [and BS], I'll
    admit they *do* sound a bit repetitive, but if they changed, what
    would you be saying then, huh? "Oh, I like them the way they were".
    
    Take VH for example, when Sammy first started singing for them everyone
    complained at the fact that it "wasn't the same old Van Halen",
    nobody likes change.
    
    I think I'm hearing alot of jealousy over this band, because, though
    *I* like them for the music the write and play, most people just
    sit and listen to "how familiar it sounds to what past albums" [gimme
    large break!!!!], or love Jon, Rich or their hair.
    
    Do me a favor, don't listen to the single. Every band has ONE
    over-played single, read the lyrics to some of his songs, I think
    one of them is written for his brother, and a couple are love songs.
    
    Incidently, just for the record [pardon pun, couldn't be helped],
    his last three albums sound NOTHING alike. The first one is a beginner
    album the next was the hit album, then the GOLD, this one will go
    too, you watch. 
    
    I agree it has a Bruce Sp. sound, but it's not, it's BonJovi, and
    no matter how you slice it......
    
    MY two cents...
    
    ;')
    
    -renee/tcr2/greatest fan of bonjovi's ever> ;')

    
    Yo Renee, don't get excited ;-)

    
    	   All right you moderator types... fess up!  Who's been going
    	around changing the titles of the notes?  I distinctly recall
    	that this note used to be called "*B O N  J O V I  &  C O*",
    	or something like that... now it's just "Bon Jovi", which
    	kicks about as much ass as a three-toed sloth!
    
    	   If you're going to change them, try to make them better than
    	they were before, not lamer.
    
    	- Greg

    
        Well, now it should be better for everyone ... it has
        the 'frills' of the original, but the spaces between
        the letters are omitted.
    
                                                       GTI
    

    
    I haven't heard the new BJ..but based on past albums theyre good
    at what they do.  They pose for pics in all the teeny-boper mags.
    they make all the right "Heavy Metal" faces.  They wear all the
    right makeup.  They have all the right moves in they're vids but
    the one thing theyre not good at is quality writing.  In that category
    I think they're severly lacking.
    
    	Who knows maybe the new album is better but I doubt it.
    
    bk
    

    
    	I heard `Bad Medicine' yesterday on the way home from work !
    And again at 17:20, and 21:00, and again this morning when I woke
    up and turned the radio on.  Not a bad song, but repetition makes
    me wanna' vomit !
    
    METALord"

    I saw the video to Bad Medicine yesterday, the video was made with
    a lot of fun by the looks of things, loads of lovely women around
    the stage filming the guys as they perform. The song is good as
    well, but it is rather distracting seeing althoughs ladies in their
    tight little skirts..........sigh.
    
    Prince Of The Dawn.

    
    
    	I heard Living in Sin yesterday.  BLECK!  Could be because
    	it was the first time I heard it, but I didn't think it
    	was too terrific.  Especially for a ballad.
    
    	Anyone else heard it?
    	
    	Tig~~
    

    
    I finally got the New Jersey tape.  I haven't listened to it all
    the why thru yet.  But, from what I heard I like.  I don't think
    it sounds much like Bon Jovi.    My favorite song so far is 
    "living in sin"  I think is the name.  Bad Medicine doesn't do much
    for me anymore I've heard it one time tooooooooo  many.
    
    Rae

    A six is good! A six is real good, we'll go with a six!!
    
    re-couple back:
    
    You changed the title??? I didn't even notice, discount drugz...
    
    [that's okay jon, I still think your the greatest]
    
    Hey, I read in an article that Jon was going to grow his hair super
    long and then grease it all back....sort of like what's-is-name,
    the lead singer of U2....eh, it'll do, I guess....;')
    
    I'd take him with any packaging...;')
    
    -tcrenee>
    

    U2 lead singer : Bono

    Didier.

    Seems like everyone is a Bono-wannabe these days?!?!?!?
    But bono's one step ahead, he already changed his hair style!

    I'm not sure (The ladies can correct me if I'm wrong) but Jon Bon
    Jovi has recently gotten a hair cut...
    
    Bono hasn't got anything on JBJ...IMHO
    
    jc

    Yes JC you are right Jon Bon did recently get hairs cut.  IMO it
    looks stupid parted on the side but you didn't ask me so I won't
    tell you. 8^) 8^)
    
    Rae
    

>    Bono hasn't got anything on JBJ...IMHO
    
Except sincerity! (IMO)

cat
who_say_'uh_oh_we're_talking_about_non-metal_music_again'_

    Well, I think he's pretty sincere...In some interview I was reading
    (in one of those rag mags, he was asked why he seemed to love being
    a rock star.  His response, was something like:
    
    "I'm in this business for the women!"

    jc

>    "I'm in this business for the women!"

Well, that's pretty sincere, I guess! 

BTW, two things I had forgotten to mention earlier. I had said that Jon
had a girlfriend he was very devoted to, and every one else replied back
that he was single. But I just remembered that not only did he have a
girlfriend, but you can check her out on the inside cover of 'Slippery
When Wet'. I'll have to go home tonight and see which girl it is, but it
is one of the ones washing the car.

Also, I remember an interview with with Jon when 'SWW' came out. He
listed his favorite singer/performer as Bruce Springsteen, and said he
aspired to be as good as Bruce someday. I guess from the early reviews
of the new LP, he is trying.

cat

    CAT up until recently Jon Bon did have a girlfriend of five
    years.  I can't recall her name.  A friend of mine who is in the
    R&R business in New York told me the other day that they had called
    it quits.
    
    Rae

>                                        A friend of mine who is in the
>    R&R business in New York told me the other day that they had called
>    it quits.
    
This could be - the last time I saw them together was when Bon Jovi
backed up .38 Special at Great Woods. At that, he told me he was still
very happy and still in love (but I guess a few million bucks can change
anything, huh?).

BTW - *never* believe *anything* told to you by soemone from NY who is
      in the music business!  8^)

cat

    Well CAT I guess I'm just gullable. 8^)
    
    For who ever cares 8^)  I've finally listened to the album all the
    way thru a few times.  It is great. My fav song for the moment is
    Love for Sale must be cause of the Springsteen sound and I love
    Springsteen.
    
    Also heard that New Jersey has gone Platnum(SP?) already!
    
    Rae

    
    RE.97 - Love For Sale
                         
    I second that        :-)

    I heard yesterday nigth during a HM show on radio that John Bon Jovi got
    married last year with (one of) his girlfriend called Dorothee. This
    was kept in secret by the record company that didn't want John's image
    of sex symbol to be over.

    Rumors I guess ?

    Didier. 

    I also heard that Jon Bon Jovi was married but it was supposed to
    be a well kept secret.  But, recently I heard that he and Dorothee
    whom he has been with for 5 years split up and went their own ways.
    
    Who knows??
    
    Rae

    re: .102  I heard the same thing about a week ago that he and she
    had split up.
    
    Chris D.

BTW, I checked out the 'Slippery When Wet' inner sleeve. JBJ's girlfriend
is the one on the far right - she's leaning over and washing the 
windshield. Just FYI.

cat

    I remember now...
    
    *sigh*
    
    jc

    
    
    	As most of you probably know, yesterday was Bon Jovi
    	Sunday on MTV .... and according to them (and they said
    	that the dates may change)  Bon Jovi will be in Providence,
    	RI on March 2 and in Worcester on March 12.....
    
    	I'll be at both if I can help it.....
    
    	Now where's my sleeping bag?  ;-)
    
    
    	JJ
    

    
    Lita Ford was not that good.     
                                      
    Bon Jovi kicked major ass.  They played my two fav songs - "Wanted 
    dead or alive" and "Bad Medicine".
    
    Great show
    -Tony                                         

    
    I'll agree with you for once there TTT.   
    
    P.
    

    
    
    	Well, if Lita is opening for them I know I can get
    	my SO to go!!
    
    	JJ
    

    JJ-
    
    I just found out that ticket's go on sale this Saturday....

    Well, All Ye Faithful JBJ [yes, Richie too, Rae...] Slaves, What
    have it??? Friday nite from midnight on, we sleep out and get tickies
    at City Hall of Marlboro or WHAT???????
    
    I know *I* can re-arrange my "hectic" social life [yeah, right]
    for the Prince of my dreams.....any takers or is this going to be
    a solo mission?????
    
    -renee>

     re .128  Agagagagaaaaa!!!1
    
    Re Renee... You are not allowed to wait till 6:00 am  and the owner
    does enforce it.  He's an as*hole.  Also.. it would be at the
    TICKETMASTER on lincoln st in Marl...not at Cityhall Music which
    BTW is a TICKETRON...
    
    BK
    

    Re: RAE
    
    	Of course you can go ! Yea ! Hoo! I cant wait ! I cant wait !
    	I want to be there both nights!  It will be a blast ! Are we
    	all riding together, maybe take two cars ? We have to start
    	early that night ! 8-)
    
    
    	Rock-ON
    									

    	Re:  ladies..
    
    	Yea, I wanna go!!!  But none of this smacking me upside the
    	head stuff!  It's barely healed up.  And last night I hit
    	it again on a kitchen cabinet door!   OUCH..!!  %^(
    
    	I've been really busy but it's finally slowing down....
    	thank god....  ;^)
    
    	Vicki    	

    
    
    	I called the Centrum to find out the details as to
    	price, time, if they're giving out wrist bands etc.
    	and here's what I found out.
    
    	They are playing March 12.  Tickets are $18.50/piece.
    	Tix go on sale at 10:00 and if I understood the recording
    	correctly, they will be giving out the wrist bands starting
    	at 9:00. (I'll be there long before that!! :)  )
    	And the Box Office is open till 6:00 for those who can't get
    	there sooner.
    
    	Unfortunately I can't make it to meet with you guys the night
    	before :(  because I have a surprise b-day party to go to Friday
    	night.  I had to cancel on BK too... :(  I wanted to go too!
    	Anyway, I hope to see all of us at the show...we'll have to
    	find out where everyone is sitting.  Maybe with a little bit
    	of luck we won't be too far away from each other (or the stage!)
    
    	I want my JBJ!!
    
    	JJ
    

    Does Anybody Know The Opening Act For J B J ? I Heard It Was
    Skid-Row! The Band Is In Charlotte, N.C. Feb.17th.

    
    
    	I've never heard them before...are they good?
    	
    
    	JJ
    

    Yeah, I have to take a raincheck on hanging outside in the cold
    Marlboro air too. Got plans I made and forgot about [tee-hee!]
    
    But, I'll definetly order a couple over the phone!! OF COURSE...
    
    -reneebonjovi>

    
    
    	Ok, so who was able to get tix?
    
    	Luckily I was.  But I almost didn't.  A few replies back I put
    	a note in about what I heard from the Centrum Box Office recording.
    	Well, when I got there (got up at 5:30 to be there) I found
    	out that the recording was wrong and they had given out the
    	wristbands on Friday!!  Needless to say, I was quite p***ed!!
    
    	But we found a guy that was only buying 4 tickets and he agreed
    	to buy our two.  So I'll be there!!  And they did add a second
    	show for March 13.
    
    	How'd the rest of you gals do?
    
    	JJ
    

                
                Not a gal, but as usual, I have 2nd row . . .
                
                
                :`) :`) :`)
                
                If it's a Centrum concert, I always have 2nd row!
                
                - Rob -
                
                QR/Met, can't wait!!!
                
                

    
    
    	re: -1
    
    	Hey Rob --     PPPPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHH!!!!
    
    
    	:) :) :)    How come you got so lucky!!
    
    	JJ
    

>  How come you got so lucky!!
    
2nd row to Bon Jovi is lucky?


8^) x 1,536,683

cat

    
    
    	Hey, don't go knocking my honey!!  :) :) :) :) :)
    
    	JJ
    
    
    	

    
    
    Rae,
    
    	Where are you sitting?
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    	Me too....section 212....and the guy that bought them for
    	us was 55th in line!!  I feel bad for the people who were up
    	around 200 in line...although they may have gotten good seats
    	for the second show.  I knew I should have stuck around!! :)
    
    	Now I'll just try and win every contest I hear about that's
    	giving away tix...although I NEVER win....  :(
    
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    	Sounds like a lot of the good seats were given to contests
    	and radio stations etc.....I couldn't believe that this guy
    	got upper level.  Oh well, as long as I'm there...they're
    	both sold out......  maybe are seats are near each other.
    
    	I'll be looking for ya with my binoculars...but once the show
    	starts they will be constantly focused on the stage.  BTW=
    	do you know anything about the opening act?
    
    	JJ
    
    	

                
                These ticket  places  are  a  pain in the ass.  A
                fiend of mine  works  for  Ticketron  (handy  for
                Providence shows), but Ticket  Master  works  the
                same way, basically.  They  hold  back  something
                like 10% of the seats in  each section to release
                either the day of or the day  before  the show to
                help  stop scalping (Jack walked into the Centrum
                box  office  the night of QR/Def Leppard about an
                hour  before  the  show and got front row!) Also,
                there  are    different  access  codes  dfor  the
                tickets, and if  you  know the "super" codes, you
                can have access to a much better ticket selection
                than  the other Ticketron/masters.   He  gave  me
                bracelets for Dio in providence the day before, I
                was  psyched,  number  one,  got  there the  next
                morning  all  ready to walk to the front  of  the
                line and laugh at the people that had been  there
                all night,  but there was absolutely NOBODY there
                at all!  I still got 3rd row for that one though,
                even though I didn't get to bust any balls . . .
                
                - Rob -
                
                

    
    
    	Bon Jovi is on the cover .? Yea Hoo! Let us know some juicy
    	facts!
    
    	thanks Rae
    
    	SueJ

    BRILLIANT!!!!
    
    I need a new dartboard  8-)       
                                      
    No offense ladies, only joking!!!!

    
    
    Alley Sheedy?   NOOOOOOOOO!  Who is Dorethea  whatever her name
    is.   Is she involved with anything famous besides Jon?  8^)
    
    kat

    Gene Simmons? 3000 women????? Pleeze, you know what they say, the
    more you talk, the less you get....;')
    
    SO ANYWAY, BACK TO THE TOPIC.....<hee-hee, I just love taking control
    of a situation!!>
    
    Trivia for today:
    
    In the "Born to Be My Baby" video, there's a women/girl/beast that
    Jon hugs, is that the soon-to-be-assasinated, <-ha, ha, ha, not really.
    Hmph.) Dorthea Hurley or what???? 
    
    Does anyone know where else her picture might be besides on the
    inner sleeve of the Slippery album?? I have the cassette, so I don't
    have the picture, what a DRAG!!! Really?
    
    -rbj>

    
    
    
    	Well, hre's a little tidbit of info for all you JBJ fans
    	from Hit Parader.
    
    	...Jon Bon Jovi recently revealed that his marital status
    	is one topic he's getting mighty tired of discussing.
    	"Hey, what's so fascinating about it?" Jon wanted to know.
    	"I said a long time ago that nho woman would want to deal
    	with me for more than ten minutes, and that's still true.
    	You don't see a marriage ring around my finger, do you?
    	Well, that's all you need to know.  I don't see why everyone
    	is so interested in knowing about my personal life...
    
    
    	Hmph!!  Well, EXcuuuuseee us!  (^8
    
    	Tigga~~
    

    I don't believe it for a second.  That story came out a long time
    ago.  Any goodlooking guy in the limelight has been accused of the
    same thing.  Maybe he just has his sh*t together and realizes that
    there is plenty of time later on for marriage and commitment.  Maybe
    he likes what he is doing and a wife just doesn't fit into the scheme
    of things at this point in his life.  Maybe he likes variety and
    is honest enough about it that he wouldn't want to drag some poor
    girl in for the duration when he couldn't give her everything that
    he could and should.  MAYBE he hasn't met the right one.
    
    Kat

    
    
    	RE: 188
    
    
    	
    
    	Or maybe he's gay!  agagagagagaga   (^8

    
    
    	But seriously.  I can see where an artist would get sick and
    	tired of having his life splattered over every magazine in the
    	free world.
    
    	The price you pay for fortune and fame, I guess.
    
    	Tigga~~
    

    AMEN!!!
    
    Really, listen to the caped crusaders in *this* topic!!!! [hee-hee]
    
    *MY* views on the subject?? <sigh> He's waiting for me, I can see
    it now, I'll be at his concert, Sunday night and he'll be singing
    "I'll Be There For You" or something beautiful and moving as that
    and I'll be wearing a flowing white dress that glows in the dim
    of the lighter haze. He'll see me from afar, point up through the
    audience and have the one of his security men pull me up through
    the crowd of sweating, hysterical teenagers, and put me onstage
    with him....and...ah...hmmmmmm
    
    ....YEAH! Well! Back to reality, phones are ringing, lunchtime is
    upon us, and after discussing this delicious, one of a kind specimen,
    my Peanut Butter and Jelly will taste the best it's ever been!!!
    ;') [<-winky-winky!!!]
    
    Seriously, see you on stage girls...]
    
    
    OH, and as for the little "Jon Bon Jovi is gay"
    remarks...PAAAAALEEEEZE!! The very thought. Think about it guys,
    even if he was [damn me for even speaking of it at all!!] I'm sure
    he'd have a change of heart after the first show, seeing all those
    screaming wildabeasts in the audience.....
    
    ...right?? JJ?? RAE?? BACK ME UP WILL YA, HUH???
    
    
    -reneebonjovi>

    
    
    >sweating, hysterical teenagers
    
    and one outrageously hysterical adult!!!!! 8^)
    
    Its ok.  We all have our little fantasies.  Ask me about my dream
    I had about Axel once.  Scared me!
    
    Kat

    
    
    	re: .189  Tigga YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN THAT TO SAY
    	 	  SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHEN I'M BOUND TO HEAR 
    		  ABOUT IT!!   :) :)  
    
    	re: .192  Ditto Renee!!  I'll back ya up......Rae says
    		  that the both of you have upper level seats...
    		  us too...see ya there!
    
    	re: .194  Oooooh Kat...sounds intriguing !!  (axel)
    		  Tell us more...tell us more!!  hee hee hee
    
    
    			JJ
    

    Outrageously, hysterical??? NOT!!! I gaze mystically...
    
    No, You haven't lost me, I've been gone all along, I'm just TEMPorary
    remember??? [doy.]
    
    Cool. C-yah there, JJ, and thanks for the back up....
    
    -renee bon jovi>

    
    
    It was really weird.  I was married to him.  Married for me would
    be weird in the first place.  Axel is even stranger.
    
    This should be somewhere else those instead of polluting this note
    
    Kat

    
    
    	Just heard a short interview with JBJ himself on the
    	radio...didn't hear all of it but....
    
    	He said that Worcester is the ONLY city they're doing 2
    	shows in!!  (that's because we're here right?)
    	And THERE IS NO SPECIAL LADY IN HIS LIFE!!  He even said
    	"If I want love I'll buy a puppy!"  and don't say the big
    	"M" word....guess he's had bad luck with love....I'll 
    	volunteer to help him..honest!!  ;-)
    	
    
    	No earth shattering news...but this note hasn't had any
    	action as of late.....
    
    	JJ
    

    JJ you just made my day!!! I love hearing that positive input...
    
    Keep up the good work! I consider that news earthshattering!!!!
    
    8'D
    -reneebongiovi>

    
    
    	BJ fans might be interested to know that JBJ
    	is on the front cover of Rolling Stone this month!!
    
    	And there is an article about them going to Russia....
    
    	Another tidbit of into brought to you by...
    
    	JJ
    

    Yep, got that article, my keen JBJ senses picked up on that awesome
    cover photo....Gawd I love him and his new look....BLACK! YEAH!!!!
    
    JBJ Forevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
    
    -renee>

    Oh, talked to a friend of mine this weekend....
    
    Saturday to be exact....He's got about 18 tickets to the March 13th
    show to sell. He said he wanted to get rid of them quick, so I don't
    know how many he has now, but they're section 211....He wants $22.50
    for them, but I'm sure he can be talked down, he's having trouble
    selling them.....
    
    send me mail if your interested or you need more info...
    
    
    -renee>

    Anyone listen to Rock Line last night on the Radio ?  (I am assuming
    that WAAF does that still...
    
    Anyway, JBJ and Ritchie Sambuca ;^) were on there and they did a
    live acoustic version of Livin' On A Prayer.  You gals woulda loved
    it.
    
    ICYC
    jc

    <wimper> <sniff-sniff>
    I was listening to it on my way home last nite. Bolted during the
    commercial so I could run home and tape it, [gawd I love his voice...]
    I went in the house just before the live acoustical version...:'(
    THen my stupid (*&^% radio would't let HJY come in!!!! I got 'the
    pebbles [aka the stones] and some disco shi* station but NOT. JBJ!!!
    
    [whine-wimper]
    
    So, I'll give anyone $1000 if you have that whole interview on tape..
    
    ;')
    
    -me and all my millions...>

    Yo Coop, I think that with every album JBJ sounds more and more
    like Stringbean. I agree. Listen to Runaway, then listen to
    Born to Be My Baby.
    They've got the Springsteen piano sound, the Springsteen voice...
    maybe it's just "the New Jersey Sound" but I thought "Bruce"
    when I heard the album.
    
    not slagging JBJ cuz it's not a bad sound/Motorbreath

    EWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
    
    Don't even put the two in the same sentence...I'm with you JJ, my
    feelings are the same!!!! Yucky! I'm so bored with him..
    
    
    Hey, at least he's better looking than the b**s!!!
    
    On a serious note...
    
    One reason why they may have a similar sound is because, Mr. America
    helped out the boize from Joizey when they first started out. Jon
    idolizes him, of course that's going to have some effect on their
    music.....
    
    -reneebon>

    I hate to say it, but when I heard certain songs off the newest
    Bon Jovi album, I also thought of Springsteen.  I never thought
    that about any of the older Bon Jovi stuff.  I hope it goes away!
    
    gh

    They are both very influenced by Southside Johnny, IMO.
    
    I have heard both of them say it, and it shows (maybe more so
    in Springsteen but it's there in Bon Jovi, too)
    
    Hey, they grew up in the same area, and JBJ probably saw Springsteen
    tons of times before he even thought of frosting his hair!
    
    Dilly

    Sorry JJ,
    
    But I don't care for Springer (sorry Rae, you can still like him;
    we'll let ya ;^))), and JBJ's latest effort sounded (vocally) like
    they were drinkin' the same water or something !
    
    Now, older JBJ stuff isn't as obvious.  I like the old JBJ.
    
    <insert humble opinion>
    jc

    
    
    	JC,
    
    	Ok you're forgiven  :-)
    
    	I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion.  I suppose
    	I just dislike BS so much, that I wouldn't compare him to
    	anyone...especially my fave.
    
    	Hey Reneebonjovi :) and Rae...do you two know where you're
    	sitting yet for the concert?
    
    	JJ
    

    I seen Bon Jovi in Charlotte friday night! The guys put on a great
    show! They played for an hour and a half! I was'nt too impressed
    with Skid Row, They did'nt sound as good as the album! But over
    all Bon Jovi made up for their performance!

    
    
    	Well yesterday was JBJ's bday...and they played in Providence.
    	According to someone I heard on the radio just a few minutes
    	ago...They had a huge birthday cake for him and balloons fell
    	from the ceiling and everyone in the crowd had birthday hats
    	on...
    
    	I KNEW I wanted to go to the Providence show!!
    
    	JJ
    

    This dude I met last nite told me the rest of his band was out 
    celebrating with Jon. He told me this around 2:00, you don't
    know how tempted I was to ask where and how to get into this
    place, I controlled myself though, guy was probably full of kukka
    anyway...never know, though...
    
    -somedayjon>

    Bon Jovi is a week from Sunday....Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Anyone going to the show is welcome to come by my house first I'm
    about 20 minutes from the Centrum.  Even if your not going to the
    show your welcome to come by!!  Just send me mail for directions.
    
    Also Renee and I still have one ticket avail for show 1 and one
    ticket avail for show 2.  If you or anyone you know is intrested
    let one of us know..k??
    
    Rae

    
    	Ive been out so-HAPPY BIRTHDAY_JON BABY!
                        
    	SueBJ

    
    
    	3 days!!
    
    	I wish I had floor seats...from what I understand, the
    	band is pulling people up on stage during the show!! One
    	of the guys in my group brought in today's Globe and there's
    	a story about them.  There's a pic of the band and a pic of
    	Jon dancing with a fan that he pulled up on stage....very
    	close I might add!!  Pick me!! Pick me!!
    
    	But I'm in the second balcony so I'll guess I'll just have
    	to be envious of whoever gets up there....OR work my way
    	down to the stage!! ;-)
    
    	JJ
    
    

    
    As much as I like the band Bon Jovi and the music I DO NOT LIKE
    JON BON JOVI!!! I like him less and less the more I read about him.
    The guy is a sexist DINK!!!!!! (Can I say that without **??)
    
    Here is an example for ya from an article I was just reading.
    On the last tour..........
    
    "At the Providence Civic Center he dedicated "You give love a bad
    name" to a woman who wouldn't sleep with him, and who dared to wear
    hair curlers in his presence."
    
    Well just pardon us god almighty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    The guy is a jerk!!!!
    
    Rae
    
    P.S.  Vamp and SueJ don't hurt me too much k?

    
    
    	Hi Rae..... I was at that show when he said it....you shoulda
    	heard the guys in the audience cheering him on when he said
    	it...part of it may be true but sometimes I think that they
    	(and all performers) just add it for part of the show cuz
    	that's the way we expect them to act.... IMHO.
    
    	Anyway...did anyone else see on MTV yesterday where they said
    	to watch March 28 because Jon and MTV ARE GIVING AWAY THE HOUSE
    	JBJ GREW UP IN !!  I s'pose he bought his folks a nice gorgeous
    	home....anyway, they're giving away his house, $10,000 in cash,
    	and a Kawasaki (something)
    
    	Why would anyone GIVE AWAY a house?
    
    	Too bad I don't want to live in NJ..
    
    	JJ
    

    Re: JJ
    
    	I agree with you - I think they do it just to get people
    	going. Really, if they just stood up there and didnt say
    	much-it wouldnt be as interesting...  I still love the Guy.
    
    
    Re: Rae		YOU DIE!!!!!  8^)
    
    
    
    	SueJ

    Re JJ and Sue.....It is a stupid image and why would someone
                      want to portray themselves like that.  Every
                      article I read he admits to being a sexist.
                      There is other ways to get crowds going
                      other than being a jerk.  Besides most of thier
                      fans are female he should have at least half
                      a brain and not offend them!!!!!
    
    Re Sue........I kinda figured that!
    
    Rae

    
    
    	Re: Rae
    			Well I can say is-if I had the money that
    			he has and the fans-I would do what I 
    			wanted to do also! The fans still 
    			love him no matter what! Except
    			of course= Renee Quebec whos sez long live Richie-
    			Hes an Angel right?! HA
    
    
    
    
    			Rae-Be careful I just might be in Boxboro today!
    			He He		;^)
    
    
    			SueJ

    
    I've grown up.  I don't LOVE Richie anymore!!!  I like the band
    and the music.  I hate Jon Bon end of story.
    
    Thanks for the warning!
    
    Rae

    
    
    	Oh Wow! Grown up now! No say it isnt so! They are great !
    	Thats all there is to it! So-what time does the show start?
    	We are partying at your place for a while right? Need munchies
    	or anything? Let me know! What time do you want us there???????
    	
    	SueJ

    Rae......
    
    Hmmm, how to approach this, in a nice, calm manner....:'S
    
    IMPOSSIBLE!!!
    
    I hear alot of sh*t about Jon. So what, name me one guy, all kidding
    aside that *isn't* even the slightest bit sexist, and I'll show
    you a liar and a B.S. artist...
    
    I can deal with the sexist attitude, I love a good fight, and I'm
    sure we could have some interesting brawls...."Where's my Freddie
    glove?????" ;')
    
    Hey, what can I say, love is blind, and I have a dream...nuff said.
    
    -vamp>
    
    JJ and SueJ-
    
    I couldn't agree with you more...musicians are just actors with
    and instrument....don't believe everything you read.
    
    v

    On stage, in front of a camara, in front of fans, interviewers.
    The only time they "take off their shoes" is when they're on the
    home front and there's no chance of there image being shattered...
    
    -Vbj to the end!>

                
                They hold  back 5% from each section, so I'm sure
                there were plenty  of good seats (including quite
                a few in the  first 10 rows).  I got 2nd row Ozzy
                tickets the night of the show last year. 
                
                - Rob -
                
                Actually,  if  they released 1500,  the  must  be
                holding  back  more  like  10%  for   this  show.
                Centrum only seats something like 13K-14K people.
                
                

    
        RE: Pete
    
            I thought it was pretty good - Skid Row and Bon Jovi
            both did a pretty good job of keepin' the place rockin'.
            Admitted, they both sound much better in the studio -
            but I had no real complaints.
    
            Bon Jovi did "Runaway", so I was happy - although they
            DIDN'T do some of the other stuff off of "BJ I" that I
            would've liked to hear (Shot Through the Heart, Roul-
            ette, and Break Out come to mind).
    
            [Geez, Renee - why didn't ya tell me the seats were be-
             hind the stage?  8^)]
    
            And from here, maybe Wendy or Sue will take us to the
            "Concert War Stories" note (#16)?  8^)
    
                                                       GTI

    
    
    	I agree Rae!  Where did you and Renee end up sitting	
    	anyway??!
    
    	I also agree about Skid Row... I think if I was going
    	tonite (which I'm not :(  ) I'd skip the first act
    	and not show up until 8:15 or so....just for BonJovi.
    
    	Maybe with a little bit of luck they'll play at Great
    	Woods again this summer....
    
    	Have a good time!!
    
    	JJ
    

    	I heard that JBJ was arrested over the weekend for trespassing
    	on an ice-skating rink in Central Park.  The whitebread rocker
    	in jail--somehow I almost have more respect for him now.  =8-)
    
    							Carla
    

                  Wild in the Centrum
    
    
    What a concert.  I had an awesome time.  It was nice to
    meet some of you guys before the show.  I thought it was
    great that he came out into the audience.  I was actually
    about 10 feet from him at one point.  I thought that if
    I jumped, I could climb up.  Actually, it would of been
    worth getting thrown out to do it.
    
    My voice still hurts and I went on Sunday.  I did alot
    of screaming.  Does anybody know where JBJ will be playing
    next?  Any comments on last night's show???
    
    See ya,
    
    Laurie

    Did you's know:
    
                   The first nites show was 20 min. longer than 
    last nites show. And both shows were suppose to end at 15 min of
    11. The band combined two encores into one and did not play a third
    encore, which they were doing for New York and New Jersey. The 
    band will be touring in the summer- rumor has it Great Woods is
    on the itinerary. Aug 9th they head to USSR for some shows...
    The Centrum was the only arena in this leg of the tour doing two
    shows. Even the Meadowlands is a one nighter. 
    
    Just a few of the things i pick up from being a stagehand at the
    Centrum.
    
    Now on to Metallica Thursday nite..
    
    
    
                   

    Just heard that Jon was arrested last week while in New York City!
    Seems he and his girlfriend and two others wanted to go ice skating
    at the Rock(plaza) after hours. they were arrested for public
    trespassing!  What a joke! and to think I payed money to see
    a criminal!

    
    Last night after Flesh at the Channel, I went to Bunratty's
    to see Pieces.  Rumors were al over the place that Bon Jovi
    was supposed to show up there.  I didn't stay too long (urgent
    business called) and I wonder if they showed.
    
    I've seen members of Def Leppard there and also AC/DC, so anything
    could happen.
    
    Dilly                                                  
    

    
    	What a show! I had an excellent time both nights!
    	I liked SkidRow. They were good. What a great time !
    
    
    	SueJ
    	Rock-On

    At the last minute, I too got tickets to Monday's show at the Centrum.
    And what great tickets-section 3, 5th row!!  Richie Sambora is even
    better looking in person than in any publicity shot I've ever seen!
    
    I do have to agree with the others that have said that Skid Row
    was nothing special in concert. I didn't even go to my seat til
    they left the stage.
    
    I hope like hell that I get to see Bon Jovi again if they do end
    up playing at Great Woods in the summer.
    
    
    Carolyn
    
    

    	Does anybody know when Bon Jovi is coming to Colorado?  I'm not
     	asking for myself but for a friend.  Sure, that's what they ALL
    	say, right?!
    
    							Carla
    

    
    
    	While button pushing this morning until I found
    	something I wanted to listen to, I heard on WGIR
    	(101.1) an ad for a ticket place...Front Row Ticket
    	Agency or something....anyway, they mentioned something
    	about BonJovi performing in Providence in June....didn't
    	they already play there?  Has anyone heard anything about
    	this?  If it's true I'll be there!
    
    	Thanks!!
    
    	JJ
    

    Front Row is fine in a pinch or if you really want to see someone
    up close, but they charge an arm and a leg to get there.  
    
    There are some concerts that your *NEED* to be front row...;^)
    
    Dilly

    
    
    	Yeah, but they didn't play in June!!  I think they're talking
    	June of 89...that'd be great by me!!
    
    	JJ
    
    	ps...I'm hoping they'll play at Great Woods too....it'd be
    	a haul from Nashua but hey, what the h*ll!
    

I can't believe you girls don't know about this date yet -

Bon Jovi/Skid Row added another date in Providence - its either June 2nd
or June 7th, I couldn't tell what the ad said. I think tickets are already
on sale, but I'm not sure.

Also, there is supposed to be another MA date about the same time, but I think
they are still trying to decide where to play (it maybe Worcester, but it may
also be Sullivan Stadium).

cat

    
    
    	That must have been what I heard....are they selling through
    	Ticketron or Teletron?  
    
    	I had heard from Tig (she got it from a rag mag) that Bon Jovi
    	Motley Crue, Skid Row ( I think) and another band were going
    	to tour this summer together and play the stadiums...what I
        want to know is...how many of us believe that Sullivan would
    	have them?
    
    	I want more Bon Jovi!!
    	Rae?
    
    	JJ
    	
    	

    
    	Well there is a second show in Providence...June 7.
    
    	But Rae and I found out that all that's left is
    	behind the stage seats....yuck!  So we'll just
    	wait for Great Woods!
    
    

    Re: JJ
    
    	Hey let me now about Great Woods, Im willing too! Right Rae??!
    	I also live in Nashua so we could BON out on the way together!
    	I want MY BON JOVI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    	SueJ

    JJ- I read that note in hear to from Tigg, Bonjovi, Megadeth [of
    all bands....] Motley Crue, Skidrow, for probably the Summer Jam.
    I'll  be there...
    
    Ummm, you know, they sometimes release tickies on the night of the
    show ladies.....you sure you don't want to go????
    
    -vamperjovi>

    
    	re:Vamp
    		Where you been?! We want to go ! yea ya 
    		Talking about the Summer Jam? When is it?
    
    		SueBJ

    Megadeth and the Croooooo!
    
    I'll be there.
    
    Motorbreath

    
    	Re:
    
    	Vamp-
    
    
    	I'll go if/when they come to Great Woods or something..
    	but I live too far away from Providence to drive down
    	on the chance that there will be tix....  I just moved
    	to Nashua and that's a long haul on a work night to 
    	MAYBE see my honey...I'd be mega p***ed if I drove 
    	down there only to find that there weren't any tix
    	left...
    
    	Know what I mean?
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    	Well, I'm watching MTV and sinc I can't remember whether
    	or not the show in Hartford was announced to all you
    	Jovi lovers....
    
    	They'll be playing in Hartford, CT on June 24.  (I know
    	the show in Providence was mentioned...)
    
    	kim

    re: 299...
     IIIi don't knowwwww, I detect a slight lack of dedication from
    the JJ-ster.....girls? Should we prosecute??? ;')
    
    We're there! I don't care. It takes an hour from my house to get
    there, I'd die for him, what's an hour???? ;')
    
    Hey! While taking part in a particularly fascinating evening, i.e.
    me and my remote control and a bowl of popcorn, I was flipping through
    the channels and saw the credits of Entertainment tonite rolling,
    just before he got up into the screen I saw the name Bonjovi and
    immediately glued my eyes to the screen. Well, I figured, it's 7:30,
    that was a R.I. channel, that means that it will be on again on
    another channel.
    
    So, I flipped through them til I saw the repeat show! Sure enough,
    My husband was on there!!! GIVING THE HOUSE HE GREW UP IN AWAY TO
    SOME WORTHLESS PEASANTS FROM PENNSYLVANIA THAT PROBABLY DON'T EVEN
    KNOW HIM!!!!! ARRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Oh, Jon, had I known......<sniff-sniff> He not only gave it away,
    but gave them a tour, a motorcycle and a check for 1,000 bucks...
    <sniffle-wimper> 
    
    Someday, Jon...someday.
    
    -vamperjovi>

    
    
    Re: Vamp.....
    
    	Not a lack of dedication....more a lack of $$$ and
    	time.... I've never driven from Nashua to Providence
    	before but I'm sure it's quite a haul......
    	Now if someone could get awesome seats for us then
    	I'd go....but for behind the stage..... I just can't
    	do it.... 
    
    	So no prosecutions huh?  (or at least no blood, I faint
    	at the sight of blood!!)   =)
    
    	Are you sure it was only $1,000??!  MTV had said $10K!
    
    	BTW-- like the node name...a friend of mine is in a band
    	called that...spelled   "Dezyne" though.... Rae's been
    	to see them too....
    
    
    	JJ- who is still in love with Jon but doesn't have the moolah
    	

     No excuses!!! I'll be sure and let him know that you are thinking
    of him as I hug him tightly....I *may* be able to weasel my way
    backstage that particular nite...<tee-hee>
    
    Alright Morissey, we'll let it go this time, but next time, we're
    going to EXPECT A LITTLE MORE MOTIVATION.....ALRIGHT??? ;')
    
    Yeah, I knew it was 10-something, who cares!? The couple that got
    it didn't deserve it and I say we kill them and steal the house,
    it'll look great in my back-oh the hell with that, I'll move it
    to NY with me!! Why the hell would I want to move something so
    beautiful to such a HIDEOUS place?? ;') Yes, I'm still going to
    VISIT LA.....but NY is my final resting place....today. ;')
    
    -undecidedvampirella>

               **Did I hear somone mention Tickets**
    
    
    
       Hi Guys,  I'd also love to see Jon again.  Let me in on
       this ticket info stuff.  I had an awesome time with all
       of you at Jon's first show in Worcester.  It's a must
       to do it again!!
    
       Well anyway, I was watching MTV last night and there's going
       to be a BON JOVI Sunday this week. (April 7).  Unfortunately
       I won't be able to see it.  I'll be in Bermuda, catching
       some rays along with some guys, parties, etc..!!! I'm going 
       to try to get someone to tape it for me though.  I'm sure Jon 
       will understand.  If I can't watch him on the tube, at least 
       I'm there in spirit.
    
       Well don't forget to keep me posted as to this concert info.
    
       See ya,
    
       Laurie 
    
           

    
    re -1 Bermuda!!!  I guess that kicks Copper Mountain's @ss
    
    jh who is going the wrong direction this week.
    
    
    p.s. (to make this a relevent reply)  Does anyone know the Denver
    show date?

    
    
    Renee....
    
    	I'm sorry!! =)  will everyone please forgive me??!  and how
    do you plan on getting back there...hmm?  or do I dare ask??! =)
    
    Rae.... yeah, I caught it too....missed the first verse though..
    	I love that song....I love to watch him sing ballads....sigh!
    	Does anyone know why they don't perform "Never Say Goodbye"
    	in concert and they didn't do a video for it?  I heard that
    	it was too close to his personal life for him to do it.....
    	
    	Does anyone know what kind of seats are left for the Harford
    	show?  I couldn't put them on my charge card if I wanted to
    	because of the gym I joined (see DYHIW...)
    
    	JJ
    

    Could you elaborate on the personal life thing??? Where did you
    hear that, who is it about, etc...what else did you hear????
    
    -vbj>

    
    	Vamp-- chill out dear!! =)
    
    	I heard it a while ago....when they're last tour was going
    	I didn't hear all the details and it was thru the grapevine
    	so I wasn't sure about it....
    
    	That's why I asked here!! There must be some truth in it...
    	they released it as a single and it did great so why not a 
    	video and performance in concert?  I was bummed when they
    	didn't do it...I love the song....
    
    	JJ
    

    Come On girls - Did we forget about this file?! 
    Did anyone watch MTV sunday of Bon Jovi? He 
    handed over his house to some chick and her
    husband! She is probably one of those that 
    rarely watches MTV and just happened to call.
    There were some Bon Jovi notes- that was cool.
    SHowed us his class picture and around Sareyville SP?
    It was pretty good. They had some good Vids also...
    He also did mention the tour with SkidRow,MotleyCrue
    and the others ! I cant wait ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !! ! ! ! ! 
    
    
    
    
    SueJ

    
    
    	I saw some of it....I was in Boston at the Bay Side Expo
    	center hoping to get some good buys on car speakers but
    	they didn't have any that fit my car so.....what a zoo!
    
    	anyway, I love the new video...when he sings those ballads
    	I just wanna run up and throw my arms around him and... ;-)
    
    	SHE DIDN'T DESERVE THAT HOUSE, I DID!! (or at least someone
    	from here anyway!)
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    	You mean that the actual Crue/Jovi/SkidRow might
    	actually happen?!
    
    	YEEEHAWWW!!!!  I'll be there!!!!!  Tommy Lee ...
    	YUMMMM!!!!  (8
    
    	Tigga~~ (who may not be a Jovi fan, but she sure does
    	 	 love that Motley Crue!)

    Yeah, I saw th b*tch get it, but not on eMpTyV, on Entertainment
    Tonite!! ARGGGHHHH!!!!!!
    
    that's okay though, if I ever came close to living in his house,
    it would be WITH him.....
    
    					-vampbonjovi>

    No offense but I think the East Coast is kinda lame, at least what
    I've seen of it. I.E.  North and South Carolina, and parts of Mass.
    I'll take Colo or maybe even move back to California. Besides I
    could NEVER root for East Coast teams. Before flames rise just remember
    I didn't say that I didn't like the PEOPLE, I don't like the place.
    
    jh

    From Rolling Stone April 20th, 1989
    
    	Notable News...
    
    	Jon Bon Jovi was slapped with a trespassing summons for sneaking
    onto the Wollman iceskating rink, in New York's Central Park, at
    3:30 in the morning with his girlfriend Renee Eno [I mean Dorothea
    Hurley] and two other friends.  When a security guard approached
    the singer to tell him he was trespassing, Jon reportedly said,
    "I know.  I'm Bon Jovi.  Do you know me?  Do you have kids?  They
    know me."
    
    	Right, like 'cuz he's a big star he's supposed to be immune
    to the law...
    
    	joe.

    
    	Old news....I'm surprised RS didn't print it sooner!!
    
    	JJ =)
    

    
    
    	Why does the name Dorothea Hurley sound so familiar??
    	Is she like, totally famous?
    
    	Tigga~~  (8

    OMYGAWD!! You freaked me out, I wasn't expecting that at all!! Wow.
    I'm like, freaking, to see my name and his name in the same sentence,
    typed out by someone other than me, zoiks!
    
    You should have had warning's posted before that note!!! ;')
    
    -vamp-who's-just-lost-her-breath>

    
     RE: Tig
    
        >Why does the name Dorothea Hurley sound so familiar??
    	>Is she like, totally famous?
         
    
            That's Bon Jovi's girlfriend, dummy!
    
            Didn't u read Joe's reply?
    
                                                       GTI
    

    read something in the back pages of circus mag. that she filed a
    palomony suit against him .seems the road got a little too tempting
    for the dude.  hope she gets zippo! for her troubles. you should
    go out with what you came in with.
    
    love and money do not mix!
    
    butchaka

    Remember....no one knows what promises or commitments
    are made behind closed doors.  

    I totally agree with the two past notes....
    
    -vamp>

    Did they break up over this little thingy???
    
    -vamp>

For those of you who are interested (and I *know* some of you are!), Bon
Jovi and Skid Row are gonna be playing 2 nights at Great Woods. Dates and
ticket info will be announced soon.....

cat

    tentative dates for Great woods.
    
    june 28-29
    
    heard it from WAAF
    

    
    
    	Did they say when they knew it would be definite!!?
    
    	I just gotta know!! I want my JBJ!!
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    	Sounds like an awesome idea to me!!
    
    	Any other takers??
    

    
    
    	Any idea on who's opening for them?  Will it be Skid Row
    	again??  
    
    	Tigga~~~

    
    Sounds like we're gonna have another awesome night with Jon & Co.
    Count me in....definitely for ladies night out!!.
    
    laurie         

    
    
    	Anyone heard about when tix go on sale?!!!!
    

                           <SAY IT ISN'T SO>
    
    
    I can't believe it, there's actually a Mrs. Jon BonJovi.  I'm heartbroken.
    Does anyone know the scoop on this.  I want all details of the wedding.
    Where did they go on their honeymoon?
    
    Laurie 
    
    

    Ok all you teeny-boppers out there, BJ is doing _3_ shows at
    GreatWoods, not just 2.
    
    

    
    
    	Yeah, and I got through within a half hour on Friday!!!
    
    	And I RESENT being called a teeny--bopper!!! so don't
    	call me one again...ok?  thank you....
    
    	Laurie- a friend of mine has the article from the Lowell Sun..
    	I'll post it here later ok?
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    I heard that Lil' Richie was played by Jon.  Is this true?
    Someone put an article on my desk with a picture of him and
    Dorothea.  Come on be serious, who'd marry someone with a
    name like that (no offence to any one with that name) but
    I'm bummen'.  Besides that, she's got a HUGH nose.  I heard 
    that they got married in leather.  I'd still like to hear any
    juice on this one from anyone.  I never would have expected 
    it after watching the BonJovi video before the concert.  He 
    stated and I quote:
    
    	"Marriage is like being in an institution, and
         I'm too young to be in an institution"
    
    
    I guess that another one bit the dust.
    
    Laurie

    I bet this holy union will dry up papmers all around the world !
    Every little girl in the world thought Jiffy Jon was singing to
    THEM, and now they know he's got an 'ol lady !  I love it !  I wonder
    how long it will be before he heads down the same road as his New
    Jersey buddy (Bruce "the toss" Stringbean) and winds up in family
    court (and on the Enquirer ....).  Rock 'n Roll ....
    
    
    
    				Scary .... very !

    
    
    	re: .349  pfffttthhh!!  :-)
    
    	Laurie, 
    
    	The "article" from the paper my friend had wasn't much of an
    	article.  Just their pic with a blurb underneath.... and I agree
    	with you......I don't think she's that attractive....!!  RE:
    	the Little Richie bit....that rumor went around awhile ago,
    	I don't remember exactly what the outcome was but I think it
    	was proved wrong.....
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    	Oh yeah, and I heard the same thing about him and 
    	marriage...he also said... "I've given up on love...If I
    	want love I'll buy a puppy"
    
    	But his manager probably told him to say that cuz it;s
    	good for his "image".  screw the image...if he's happy
    	I'm glad!!
    

    
    	Who cares what his wife looks like?
    	She just may have some other, more important qualities,
    such as a brain, and a personality.
    
    	I think this whole adoration thing that even adult women
    have towards Bon Jovi is ridiculous anyway. How many guys have
    you met that are infatuated with some famous female that they'll
    probably never even see in person, never mind marry?
    Besides John Hinckley. 8^)
    
    seems kinda foolish to me.
    
    /Motorbreath...Nothing personal JBJ fans, just my opinion

    My sentiments exactly, this has to do with alot of bands, not just
    JBJ, people should listen and like a band because of their musical
    ability, not because of their looks.
    
    CJ

    
    
    	I DO like their music...I love their music...but I also
    	like their appearance....and as I said, if he's happy,
    	then I'm glad.....
    
    	I've read in magazines and seen on TV talk shows that
    	it is "healthy" to have fantasies or adoration for someone
    	that you can't have.  It's normal...and good for a relationship.
    	You wouldn't be human if you didn't.  And there is no reason
    	to feel guilty for it.
    
    	Unfortunately, the press and other numerous people tend to
    	dwell on the fact that Bon Jovi and many many others have
    	a certain look that "helps" to sell their records.  I'll
    	be one of the first people to tell these people to go to
    	h*ll!!  A band or person should be reviewed on their musical
    	ability...and not because they're a "pretty boy band"...Jon
    	hates the fact that people constantly talk about his hair.
    	He wants to hear more about his music.  But that's not what
        the press wants to talk about.  It's more glamorous to talk
        about his looks and the fact that girls swoon over him because
    	he's attractive and sexy....Buck is right, sex sells.  
    	Sometimes, unfortunately.
    
    	I'll say it again.  Jon has known Dorothea for years (from what
    	I've heard and read)  and I admire his stamina for staying with
    	her when he could probably have any bombshell he wanted.  Some
    	may have misunderstood what I was saying in my other reply.
    	Yes, I do feel she is not one of the most attractive women I've
    	seen, and was not what I was expecting to see.....I sometimes
    	get taken in by the media too...so shoot me...  but he loves
    	her and that's all that matters.  And I hope that I do NOT
    	see his name splattered all over the front pages of the Enquirer
    	with her suing him for divorce.  He's obviously happy and that's
    	all there is to it.  His manager tried to talk him out of it
    	before and he just didn't succeed this time.
    
    	He's married.  But I will still listen to his music and watch
    	his videos and go to Bon Jovi concerts.  But I a can also still
    	love him from afar.....it doesn't hurt.
    
    	JJ
    	

    
    
    	Oh and Motorbreath...I have come across MANY men who
    	do the same thing with a female star whether it be an
    	actress or singer.....and I don't think any less of 
    	them for doing so....
    
    	It's normal....when they go beyond that...to harassing
    	the person....or eat, sleep and drink this person....or
    	are determined that someday they will become this 
    	person's husband/wife....then I think they've taken
    	it a bit too far....THAT is not normal.
    

>      Oh, and people should watch their favorite TV shows becuase they
>>    like the story lines
  
    Yo Buck, That is whyI watch "Married With Children",pro wrestling,
    and the Wonder Years.
    
    As far as JBJ goes, I'd marry her if I was him, I mean they were
    sweethearts BEFORE he got famous, so the gold-digger factor is almost
    surely out. 
    
    
    the devil dog in a cameo appearance 
    

    I've been reading some of the 'trash' in the newspapers about JBJ
    getting married, and all of those dissapointed young heartbroken
    women out there. Like wow. Bummer eh? Do they actually think any of
    them ever had a snowballs chance in hell of clamping on to this guy?
    I *really* don't. The odds were probably better to winning Megabux in
    Pennsylvania during that mad rush to buy tix for that 85 million $
    jackpot a coupla weeks ago. Sure, it's OK to fantasize... but to be
    truly bummed out or even "heartbroken" to the point of tears like some
    of these teeni-weeni-boppers blows me away. I'd love a piece of Stevie
    Nicks (is she married?)... I'm not gonna cry if she gets or even got
    married... I don't care... Sad, but true, I have come to the
    reality/conclusion I will never have a piece of her.:^{ oh, shux. :^{
    Some people need to get *real*.
    
    As far as JBJ's choice goes. I think it's great that he married someone
    he cared about even before his group started up the charts. Good for
    him. I agree with the fact that she's not along for gold diggin too.
    
    john

    
    	Im really happy they were married! I still love the guy!
    
    	SueBJ

    
    
    	There is a small write up in this week's Star magazine
    	(ya, I read it so what?  ;-)   ) about their wedding.
    	and they have their high school pix in there too...talk
    	about funny!! Jon's hair was shoulder length and very 
    	straight and the bangs hung in his face.  And Dorothea
    	looked like she wanted to kill someone!!
    	BTW-- she's much prettier in color....
    
    	JJ who's looking forward to June 30!!
    

    
    
    	congrats Pete and Wendy!!  :-)
    
    	

    RE.LAST
    
    hey thanks.. not only that i get front row  tixs, a limo, 9 dozen roses
    and a bottle of bubbly.. !!;^}
    
    
    		wendy o"
    
    

    
    
    	Ahem.... :-)  Mr. Rothberg, are you referring to
    	Bon Jovi?  If you are, then the song you may have
    	heard was "Lay Your Hands On Me".  I've heard it
    	a couple of times on the radio so I believe they've
    	released it as their next single.  It's the first
    	song on the first side of "New Jersey"  (which
    	has been out for months now)
    
    	JJ
    
    	Oh, and   pfffffffffffftttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!   :-)
    

                
                That's the  one.    WXKS  introduced  it as a new
                release, and I'd never heard it.
                
                PSYCHE!!!!!
                
                :`)
                
                Said in an Andrew Dice Clay tone :
                
                "Bon Jovi, Anchovy ... WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?!!"
                

    
    	pfffffffffttttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!  again! :-)
    
    	I musta missed it....I listen to KISS 108 all the time..
    	(it took me a minute to figure out that that's their call
    	  letters)
    
    	Oh well, I'll see 'em again at the end of the month..
    	:-) x 100000000000000
    

>    	I musta missed it....I listen to KISS 108 all the time..
>    	(it took me a minute to figure out that that's their call
>    	  letters)

	 Not to digress (hahaha) but how can a radio station on the
	 east coast have call letters that start with a K?????  Aren't
	 they all supposed to be W's......


	 kath_playing_FCC_junkie....     

>>	 Not to digress (hahaha) but how can a radio station on the
>> 	 east coast have call letters that start with a K?????  Aren't
>>  	 they all supposed to be W's......
  
    	The actual call letters for the station are WXKS, and they
    	call themselves KISS 108.....gitit?!?  (8
    
Tigga~~~~

    
    Anchovy !!!!
    
    agagagaga - Rob - you're killin' me !!!  8^)

    
    
    	ahem... you guys are treading on thin ice!!
    
    	JJ who can't think of anything creative to say today
    

heye bon jovi's coming to the river in manchester in the 2nd week of
    july..
    
        
    

    
    
    	Not to get too much off track, but has anybody been to	
    	any of the "Concerts on the River" in Manchester??
    	I'm thinking it'd be a shorter haul for me than to 
    	Mansfield...
    
    	Tigga~~

    yea on of the benis is you dont pay to get in!:^}
    be like rob and breakdown on the bridge..
    
    actually i would think it would be better, everything is outdoors.
    
    

    RE: .376
    
    Agagagagaga....
    
    Pete, your a piglet.  I like that in a person.

                took me a few seconds to figure out that one too,
                pete.  its  funny  watching the people who try to
                sneak in on boats,  etc.   it's not a *BAD* place
                for a concert as long  as  the  mosquitoes aren't
                out.  i saw dokken there  and got very rained on.
                You  can sneak in without paying, but  don't  get
                caught.  .  .  when I  go,  I pay just to save me
                the  trouble   of  climbing  fences  and  dodging
                security.  5  years  ago if they had these though
                ... heh heh heh.
                
                - antichovy :') -
                 

    Re: Wendyo
    		Are we going or what?
    
    	SueJ

    Well as Mr.Scary knows,my sister Nancy (a.k.a. Spanky)has worked
    as the BON JOVI wardrobe manager on the previous 2 tours and even
    though their music is not technically mahvelous,it is made for mass
    appeal versus fun such as Metellica.As I have met all the band members
    and had a chance to hear them warm up before a show,I can assure
    anyone that if Jon would let Ritchie put some of the rippage he
    knows on vinyl,we would have another H/M-thrash band to enjoy.(since
    I think 80% of their material is cheesy.Thats life).
                                          Anyway,see ya at 3:00 tomorrow.
      
                                              KTS.
       

    
    
    	RE -1
    
    
    	PPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
    
    	JJ who will be at Great Woods on Friday...
    

    
    
    	Oh and the rumor is....that Richie Sambora has dumped
    	Allie Sheedy and is dating......
    
    	
    
    
    		Cher!!
    

    
    
    	Pete you must know by now that I will give the
    	"raspberries" to anyone who knocks Bon Jovi...  :-)
    
    	Although I wish I were his sister!! (clothing designer)
    
    	JJ
    

    who has tickets to BON JOVI!????????????????????????????????????
    
    	SueJ

    I'm going tonight.....

    
    
    	I'm going Friday.....SueJ, I had two extras that I put up
    	for sale in here...but you musta missed it!  sorry 'bout
    	that.
    
    	RE: my reply a few back....I meant to say that I wish I
    	was ???? sister who does BJ's clothing....not Jon's sister.
    	That wouldn't be any fun!!  (Thanx Carla)
    
    
    	Candy,  could you check out where section six is for me?
    	I'd like to know before I go...(so I'll know if I need
    	binoculars or not! ;-)   )
    
    	Thanks!
    
    	JJ
    

Does anyone have know if Fridays show is sold out????
    
    

    
    
    Yesterday I heard they still had tickets...didn't say which
    	shows though....so it's worth a shot...
    
    	

    JJ....bring your binoculars.....
    
    I might be able to put my hands on a pair of tickets
    for Fridays show....Section 5....
    
    Send me mail if you want them.
    
    

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    re: .380
    
    >I can assure anyone that if Jon would let Ritchie put some of the
    >rippage he knows on vinyl,we would have another H/M-thrash band to
    >enjoy.
    
    Actually, I woudn't doubt this.  As I was driving home last night, I
    was flipping around the radio stations and landed in the middle of a
    pretty screaming guitar solo.  As I was thinking "Huh?  I don't
    recognize this...it's pretty hot...wonder who it is?...", it finished
    and went back into the song.  
    
    I couldn't believe it, it was "Lay Your Hands On Me", which I consider
    one of the lamest tunes to ever get airplay.  I'd never managed to
    actually listen to the song long enough (without being overwhelmed by
    nausa and having to either change the station or leave the room) to
    make it to the solo section.
    
    Sounds like old Ritchie can still play!  (But I agree with Todd (or
    Perry or whatever the one that started with K was, WHOEVER the heck
    this guy is...), most of their current stuff sounds cheesy.)
    
    gh
                                

    
      Good Tune In Concert Too....
    
    
    
    
    B.A.
    

    
    	sooo... Candy, without telling TOO much...
    
    	how was it??!!!
    

    
    Well, for those who think JBJ is the greatest thing since toilet paper,
    I'll give you the chance to hit NEXT INSEEN now.
    
    
    Last chance...
    
    
    Ok...
    
    Went to the GW show last night and had the `pleasure' of having dinner
    with Skid Row and the Bon Jovi boys.  The guys in Skid Row are REAL
    quite people!!!  Amazing the difference when they get up onstage!!!
    Everyone in bon jovi were real nice too, except for Jon...the guy is a
    freakin pig!!!  He sat there at dinner making rude comments regarding
    fans (esp of the female gender), and was a pig in general (no dinnder
    manners).  A bad case of the egos it seems. 
    
    Stayed for Skid Row, but left after them....sorry, missed mr. ego!
    
     

    
    
    	Re: Buck..
    
    	Disappointing...I thought Jon had more class than that.
    	Sure fools you on stage!!  Vice Versa with Skid Row...I think
    	Sebastian has a dirt mouth.....I just wish they'd be themselves.
    
    	Anyway, How did you come about getting to meet them?
    
    	JJ
    

    I know this young lady who works for Polygram...she got me the tix and
    backstage passes.  I thought Sebastian Bach would have a filthy mouth
    too, but he is a real sincere person!  They all were...Jon really is
    obnoxious!! 

    JJ....Well.....I wish they would get their sound
    right.   They had the same sound problems in Providence.
    
    All in all, not a bad show.  You'll enjoy it...8*)
    
    Binoculars are a must....

>>    I know this young lady who works for Polygram...she got me the tix and
>>    backstage passes.  I thought Sebastian Bach would have a filthy mouth
>>    too, but he is a real sincere person!  They all were...Jon really is
>>    obnoxious!! 
  
    	Are these the ones you got last year that everyone was hounding
    	you for that you weren't sure you were even going to use?!?
    
    	(8
    	Tigga~~~

    
    
    	Thanks Candy..
    
    	I was curious Buck cuz one of the radio stations was 
    	giving away passes for a "Backstage BBQ" before the
    	show...I wanted to win...kinda glad I didn't now tho.
    	I'd be devastated to meet him and have him "act" all
    	nice and then find out that he "ranks" on his fans
    	afterwards....  (can you guys believe this is coming
    	from me?)
    
    	I'll still listen to their music and I still think Jon
    	is gorgeous...unfortunately alot of them are really bad.
    
    	Actually, I heard a woman on AAF awhile back when Skid
    	Row was with Bon Jovi at the Centrum.  She said they
    	in a Denny's (somewhere) and she was there with her
    	3(?) year old daughter who loved to watch Skid Row's
    	video for Youth Gone Wild...I guess she walked up to
    	them and just started talking...and singing their
    	song.....so they gave her and her mom tix and back
    	stage passes.  Now if he'd only be nice on STAGE.
    
    	JJ
    

        	
        >I was curious Buck cuz one of the radio stations was 
    	>giving away passes for a "Backstage BBQ" before the
    	>show...I wanted to win...kinda glad I didn't now tho.
    	>I'd be devastated to meet him and have him "act" all
    	>nice and then find out that he "ranks" on his fans
    	>afterwards....  (can you guys believe this is coming
    	>from me?)

        No...we had dinner with the bands in the cafeteria at
        great woods in back.  Jon left mid-meal to go out and
        address the masses at the `backstage bar-b-q'...the rest
        of bon jovi didn't even wanna deal with it!!  
    
        FYI, the lead guitarist of skid row just ruined his hair
        with a real nasty perm/dye job...talk about burnt!!!  JBJ's
        hair isn't much better...they both looked like junk yard rats.
    
   

        KILLER!!,NOW SOMEBODY ELSE KNOWS THAT JBJ ISN'T MR.NICE GUY.
    When I met them the first time in Atlanta everyone but Tico was
    cool.(Tico stays in his own little world 99% of the time)Anyway,
    I came away satisfied that a person CAN make it big and still act
    like a human.But,on the BAD MEDICINE tour I met them twice more
    in Charlotte and Atlanta and both times Jon was a real life Run D.M.C
    attitude with hair.Not to mention Alec and Tico crackin'on de women
    in a most uncool(drunken)way.Ritchie and Dave on the other hand
    were mellow and would sit around and TALK to people.I'm giving Jon
    and Tico one more shot at their upcomeing show in Columbia S.C.to
    prove that their not really #ssholes and besides,my parents will
    get to meet them so the true colors should show.Stardom doesn't
    give people the right to be snobs and I hope the Bon Jovi boys 
    can prove it this time. 
                            TODD
    
     

    GUess who Richie is going out with now !????
    
    	SueJ

    
    Cher.   All respect for Mr. Sambora is out the window as far as
    I am concerned.
    
    jab (who_thinks_Cher_is_a_four_star_b****! !)

    	DId anyone go to the show last night ??
    	If so -How was it?!
    	
    	SueJ

    
    
    	I heard the rumor too...Guess Ally just wasn't Seedy
    	(hahaha...sheedy...seedy...git it?!?!agagaga) for him!
    
    	(8
    
    	Tigga~~

    
    
    	Re: Sue..
    
    	I had mentioned that somewhere before but I don't
    	remember where!  Anyway the funny thing is right 
    	after I heard about it, I had bought the Star Magazine.
    	(Yeah, so?  :-)  )  And it said that Cher's mom and 
    	Sly Stallone's mom were playing matchmaker and Cher
    	was seeing him!  Busy lady huh?
    
    

    
    	JJ/Rae/Laurie:
    
    	Did Bon Jovi do "Lay Your Hands on Me" at The Centrum when
    	I went?  I don't remember.
    
    	Great video - the "entrance" they used (amid the explosions)
    	WAS used in the show I saw, but I don't remember which song
    	it was for.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    re:.408
    
    In Atlanta, they opened with "Lay Your Hands On Me".  Are you sure
    it wasn't that?
    
    jab.

    
    
    re: Shawn....
    
    	Yep, they opened with it.  and they opened with it at GW too.
    
    	Were you sleeping or something or too busy watching the 
    	women watching Jon and Richie... ?  :-)
    
    	JJ
    

    They didn't play "Lay your hands on me" at the Centrum.
    If I remember correctly, they did one or two from the new
    album and the rest from "Slippery When Wet".
    
    I read in the Herald that at a show in Manchester someone
    tried to steal Richie's guitar.  Jon's brother and a couple
    of other guys "roadies" saw him and chased him.  I know they
    filed a complaint.  I wasn't sure if they were going to press 
    charges or not.  Anyonelse hear about this???
    
    See ya,
    
    Laurie
    

    I'm suprised Toni was straight enough to chase a thief much less
    CATCH him. 
               TODD

    i heard the other night that jon bon jovi was selling is high wire
    thingy, (that he flys with ;^})  anywho i guess its because he has
    gained so much weight, and hes afraid it will ]+~|ibreak ...
    
    
    

    
    
    	Reprinted without permission from August 7 issue of Us
    	Magazine....
    
    	"We were looking for  something exciting to do, so we 
    	went to Vegas.  We won some money and ended up at the Graceland
    	Chapel, for Elvis, and that's what happened."
    
    				Jon Bon Jovi on why he got married.
    

    Has anyone seen a picture of the new Mrs. John BJ??
    
    I saw a photo in Metal Edge and I hope it was a bad shot
    because she looked FUGLY... what was I expecting.. a Heather Locklear
    lookalike???????  Yes I guess I was. 
    
    
    

    Why don't Jovi try and do something original with their videos ?
    
    I just saw the video to "Lay your hands on me" and it is just like
    that last x videos they've released. It seems that they are only 
    capable of doing concert videos ! 
    
    Come on guys, you are rolling in $$$ get your act together and do
    somthing original !

    
    
    	I thought I had read somewhere that they don't LIKE doing
    	real videos.  It's much easier and less time consuming to
    	do concert footage so they can spend more time in the studio
    	crankin' out the albums and such...
    
    	Correct me if I'm wrong...
    
    	Tigga~~~

    RE. FUGLY
    
    
    		NOPE DONT THINK SO!
     i have seen another picture somewhere else, and thought the same..
    
    well i guess it goes to show you looks isnt everything!!
    ;^)
    
    		wendy o'
    
    

    
    
    	I didn't think she was great looking either....she
    	looks "too" smart...kinda stand-offish ya know?
    
    	I saw pics of them in a mag from their HS year book.
    	hahahahahahhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa!
    

    
    
    	Oh and Tony...   pfffttthh!!!!   =-)
    

Amazing. You guys are just amazing! 

Not to get into a long, drawn-out arguement here or anything, but did it ever 
occur to any of you that Jon married her because he LOVES her, and not 
because she supposed to be the most beautiful girl in the world? Why did you 
all expect her to be Miss Perfect, and almost seem disappointed that she's not? 

I don't understand what the big deal is.....

cat

    
    
    	I think it commes from seeing what other rock stars end
    	up marrying.  Seems to me that you should give him credit
    	for marrying someone he loves rather than someone he just
    	loves to look at.
    
    	(While I'm sure love is involved, take these folks for
    	instance...)
    
    	Tommy Lee and Heather Locklear
    	Vince Neil and Sharise whatever-her-last-name-is
    	Chris Holmes and Lita Ford
    	Eddie Van Halen and Valerie Bertinelli
    
    	Sometimes it seems as though looks are a priority rather
    	than actual heartfelt emotions.  
    
    	Tigga~~~

	 Just because you're beautiful doesn't mean there isn't
	 anything else inside to love...

	 and conversely...

	 just because you aren't so pretty doesn't mean someone else
	 doesn't think you're beautiful.

	 /k

    
    
    	If you guys remember correctly, this discussion DID
    	get into a heated discussion before....
    
    	And I said that I was happy for him and if he loves
    	her, who cares??  All I said was, yeah, she isn't
    	what I was expecting.....history.....beautiful 
    	people usually marry beautiful people....
    
    	I for one, don't care who he married, if he's happy
    	that's all that counts!! I mean look at Paulina Porzikova (sp)
    	she's the most beautiful woman in the world and she's in
    	love with Ric Ocasek...ick!!  but hey, her choice!
    
    	BTW-- (yes, I'm changing the subject) The Star magazing
    	predicts that Cher will marry Richie on the rebound...
    

    JJ..You read that!!
    
    On the cover it said "Cher affair splits Bon Jovi" What were they
    talking about???  I refuse to spend the whatever it costs to support
    a trash paper like that.
    
    Just Curious
    
    Renee

    
    
    	Yes, I'll admit it....but it's the only one I read!!
    
    	And the title you read must have been from the Enquirer
    	or something....the title on the front of the Star said
    	"10 Hush-Hush Weddings of the Summer"  and it had pictures
    	of 10 couples....Cher and Richie being one of them.
    

    
    Nope It was the star (I'm pretty sure) the latest issue that is out.
    A guy I work with at the video store told me about it.
    
    On the Subject of Cher...in her new video is that little blonde kid
    her son from Greg Allman??
    
    Renee

    ref. Rae...
    
    Yes it is....Elijah Blue

    
    	Re: JJ
    	Yea I read the STAR too! 
    	Re: Rae
    	That was stupid about the split up cause of Cher, all it was
    	was a pic of the three of them and as I recall they were all
    	smiling. IMO I think Cher & Rich make a cute couple ! I love 
    	the LAY YOUR HANDS ON ME video! I havent seen the new video
    	of chers yet RAE, but Ill check it out!
    
    	Re: Laurie
    
    	The kid who stole the guitar was caught and thrown in jail,
    	if he gets convicted-he will get a maximum sentence of seven
        years in jail. I think he is between the ages 16 & 18. 
    
    	SueJ
    
    	
    	

                
    I think that alot of people would be disappointed if he did
    get thrown in jail.  I know I would.  I don't think that the
    person deserves that.  Maybe a hefty fine.
    
    BTW...I saw Cher's new video.  Does she have a tatoo on her
    a**? 
    
    Laurie
    
    

    
    
    	RE: Cher 
    
    	Sure looks like a tattoo to me.  You gotta wonder about
	her taste in attire sometimes, y'know?!
    
    	RE: Stealing
    
    	You steal, you pay for the crime.  Period.  Doesn't
    	matter if you're a rock star/movie star.  
    
    	I laugh every time I hear about James Brown.  And I wanna
    	choke every person who says he should be freed.  WRONG.
    
    	Tigga~~~

    re...429
    
      Thanks Candy for confirming my thought. 8^)
    
     Renee

    Hi, 
    
    This note is GREAT!!  I can't believe there are as many "devoted"
    fans of JON BON JOVI as I am!  I am completely and totally IN LOVE
    with the man, and I'm proud of it!!  I discovered this note a couple
    weeks ago, and just finished reading all the replys and decided
    to write and tell you about my EXPERIENCE with JON(heartthrob) BONJOVI.
    I got on the guestlist for the "backyard Bar-b-que" on the 28th
    of June.  And I have some GREAT!! pictures of the man himself...
    a HUGE poster I had blown up... he was INCREDIBLE!!  I was in total
    shock standing right next to (and touching) the man of my dreams...
    I asked him if it was alright if we got a picture together... and
    his words to me were.... "SNAP AWAY BABY!!"  I almost fainted...
    he said it in such a sexual way too... oh my GOD!!!  He signed
    autographs, and took pictures with everyone... he was VERY NICE!!
    I have to say that I was disappointed reading the BAD PUBLICITY
    that some of you have been telling about him.... it doesn't seem
    like it could be true, but I wouldn't put anything past anyone...
    I STILL LOVE HIM THOUGH!!  Anyway, I also went to the Sheraton that
    night, and then went to the Sheraton the next day before the concert
    and talked with the guy that was doing the room service for Jon
    and the boys... he seemed to think they were Wicked cool!!  Then
    I went to the Concert that night, and went back to the hotel, and
    was in the lounge, when Tico and Dave came in to party... got great
    pictures with them too... they seemed EXTREMELY friendly too!! 
    If anyone is around the BXB facility and is interested in seeing
    some of the pictures, your welcome to...  
    
    Hope I didn't bore you, but I'm psyched that there are so many JBJ
    fans...  
    
    Krissy BonJovi
    (who is more in love with him everyday...)       
    

    
    
    	Tony!!  Now you be nice!!  :-)
    
    	Hi Krissy!!  You lucky thing you!!  I'm not too far
    	away from BXB (Westford) so don't be surprised if
    	I popped in to check out the pics (and maybe even
    	ask for some copies?!!)
    
    	BTW-- be prepared for a lot of flack from the guys
    	in the file...they love to pick on us JBJ lovers!!
    	Especially Tony!!  But he's harmless....most of the time!!
    	Hee hee!  Love ya tony!
    
    	Welcome to HM Krissy!
    
    	JJ
    

    
    I like some of BJ's music, I just dispise the guy !!
                            
    He's such a pratt !!    
                                                              
    No offence meant to Krissy, or any of the other BJSociety 8^)

    Welcome Krissy!
    
    		We love anyone who loves JON! 
    		Im located in BXC! I would love
    		to see them!!! I would have died...
    
    	SueJ

    
    Tony,
    
    What is a Pratt??
    
    Renee

    Krissy:
    
    	I'd love to see your pictures.  I think that Jon's awesome.
    	You gotta love that hair and those *eyes* WOW!!.  I'd love
    	to meet him some day.  I think that he'd be pretty cool.
    	Where are you located in BXB?  Maybe if I get a chance
    	I'll stop by and see them.
    
    	See ya,
    	Laurie

    
    RE:Pratt
    
    You don't wanna know !! 8^)

    
    Yes I do or I wouldn't of asked....8^) 8^)
    
    Renee

    
    	Does wjb care to re-state what he thought of JBJ, including
    	his horrendous table manners?
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    
    My note would be set hidden straight away if I put the definition
    of a pratt in here.
    
    I will give you a clue ...
    
    
    PRATT
    	  =
    	   
    	     JON BON JOVI
    
    agagagaga! I crack myself up sometimes 8^) !!!

    
    Doesn't BJ look like a frog in his new video when he wears those
    sunglasses.
    
    
    		EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
    
    
    It's a hairy
    frog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Jab

    
    Look the word PRATT up in a dictionary.
    
    You'll see a picture of JBJ !!!! 8^) !!!

    I think JBJ is ripping off the "Axl" look in a major way in the new
    video!!!!!  The hair, the bandana on the head, the glasses, the black
    spandex...I mean, that's Axl! 

    
    No, thats Stephen Tyler !!!!

>>    I think JBJ is ripping off the "Axl" look in a major way in the new
>>    video!!!!!  The hair, the bandana on the head, the glasses, the black
>>    spandex...I mean, that's Axl! 
  
    
    	JBJ has been wearing those glasses and the bandana for quite
    	some time (maybe not ALL the time) but at least since Slippery...
    	came out.  If I remember correctly, that is.
    
    	I think he had that "look" before Axl did.
    
    	???
    	Tigga~~~

	 I'm not much impressed with BonJovi's music, but I would have
	 to admit he is a cutie......

	 I always used to tease my ex that he looked like JBJ....at
	 least the hair and the eyes were right!


	 /wildkat

    Tony,
    
     My American Heritage Dictionary doesn't have Pratt in it. 8^(
    
     Oh well I'll let my imagination run wild! 8^)
    
    Renee

    Tony, you can get yourself outta this one!!!  I had to deal with
    the w*nker episode!!!
    
    ;^)
    
    Flip

    re:
    < Note 77.447 by CHEFS::DALLISON "I pray to the great God :CHOPS" >


    
    Look the word PRATT up in a dictionary.
    
    You'll see a picture of JBJ !!!! 8^) !!!


	A PRATT is like.... well.....
    
    
    Jon Bon Jovi (or is that Giovi)
        
    Bonzo ;^) (wicked mood today)
    

    
    Isn't a PRATT a mix between a frog and a man??
    
    Jab

    
    	Can we discuss "pratts" and "w*nkers" somewhere else,
    	like maybe Peru or Siberia?
    
    	Thank you.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    	To all you JBJ bashers:
    
    	PPPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    	And comparing him to Axl!! please!!! Axl is a scumbag, Jon
    	is not!  And Tigg is right...Jon started it first so Axl
    	is trying to look like him!! (which he will never succeed
    	in doing)
    
    	As an aside tho, Axl was on the front cover of Rolling
    	Stone recently and he actually looked fairly decent!
    	(but he will still never come close to being as attractive
    	  as Jon!)
    
    	JJ
    	the eternal JBJ fan!!
    

    How could ANYONE think even for a split second that JON (HOT BABE)
    BONJOVI even remotely resembles a FROG?!?!?!?!!!  He is the most
    incredibly sexy man on the face of the earth...
    
    If you'd like to see the pictures, I'm located at BXB1-2/G08...
    the only problem with this is tomorrow is my last day in this building,
    so if your interested in seeing the pictures stop by tomorrow,
    otherwise I'm moving to MRO2.  But I'd love for anyone to see the
    pictures... I'm proud of them...
    
    And about looking like AXL..??  Whatta you nuts?!?!?!   NO WAY!!!
    There isn't even a slight likeness... yeshhhhhhhhh !!
    
    And thanks for the WELCOME everyone!!!

RE: JJ
    
    	>>Stone recently and he actually looked fairly decent!
    	>>(but he will still never come close to being as attractive
    	>>as Jon!)
          
    	ACCCKK!!!!!!  JJ is actually ADMITTING to having a little
    	twinge in her hormones for Axl Rose!!!  The same girl who
    	would REFUSE to even LISTEN to GnR not too long ago?!?!?
    	(^;
    
    RE: Krissy
    
    	>>otherwise I'm moving to MRO2.  But I'd love for anyone to see the
    	>>pictures... I'm proud of them...
          
    	Nah ne nah nah nah!!  She's moving MY way!  (8
    
    RE: And about looking like AXL..??  Whatta you nuts?!?!?!   NO WAY!!!
    There isn't even a slight likeness... yeshhhhhhhhh !!
    
    	Nobody said he LOOKED like Axl.  They're saying that the get
    	ups he's been wearing lately are influenced by Axl.  (Bandana
    	around his head, the circular glasses, leather, etc.)
    
    	JBJ is good looking but he's FAR from being a TOTAL babe!
    	(Just my humble two cents!)  (8
    
    	Tigga!~~~
    	        
    And thanks for the WELCOME everyone!!!

    
    
    	Oh yea.. and FWIW... they were talking with JBJ on 
    	CNN (?) last night and he looks more like an ape than
    	a frog.
    
    	Hee hee hee hee
    
    	Tigga~~

    
    
    	OOOh Tigga!!  You know better than that!!  You is
    	treading on thin ice now woman!! :-)
    
    	And I didn't say there was a twinge of hormones...just
    	he didn't look as scummy as usual!!
    
    

    
    
    
    	Heh heh heh!!!!
    
    	Tigga~~~

    	And people thought *I* was bad with Billy Idol.  Sheesh!  You
    	people are amazing.  JBJ is a man, nothing more.
    
    							Carla
    

    
    
    	Eh, we're all just looking for something to rag on one
    	another with!
    

    "Not much of a man, by the light of the day
     but at night I'm one h*** of a lover"
    
    If you know where this quote is from and who "said" it...that's my
    impression of JBJ.
    
    gh

    
    
    	I heard on WAAF last night they are going to have an interview
    	with Jon & Company.  I think that it's tonight.  I also heard
    	that they're going to have an 800 number that you can call
    	to ***TALK*** to him.  I think they said the number was something
    	like 1-800-ROCKERS (I could be wrong w/ the number).
    
    	I was half listening to the radio last night when I heard
    	this so my facts may be a little mixed up.
    
    	Has anyone heard anything about this?  
    
    	Laurie  
              

    
    
    	Nope....hmmm....
    
    	I do know that they're having a special HHB on MTV Saturday
    	night tho....having to do with the Moscow Peace concert.
    	Which I am set for..... $20!!!
    
    	JJ
    

Its a special version of Rockline, live from Russia. The number you call is 
1-800-334-ROCK, I believe. Its on WAAF, WHJY, WGIR, and WHEB tonight from 
11:00-12:30.

cat

    
    
    	Nope.  the number is 1-800-ROCKERS.  I was listening on the
    	way home last night trying to figure out how they were going
    	to do it since they were already over in the USSR.
    
    	Live from USSR, huh???  I wonder how good the connection will	
    	be...  You know them Nynex workers... (8
    
    	Tigga~~~

.465>	"Not much of a man, by the light of the day
.465>	 but at night I'm one h***o of a lover"
    
    	Wonder what JBJ looks like in black garters and make-up.
    
    	This morning JBJ was on the Today show and said he and Richie
    	helped write a couple songs for Gorky Park and took them into
    	the recording studio to help them record.  I had to laugh when
    	I thought about what was said about the lameness and juvenile
    	cliches of Gorky Park's songs!  Definitely stands to reason.
    
    							Carla
    

    
    
    	AHEM!!!!!
    
    	This is NOT the "knock Bon Jovi" note!! :-)
    
    

    
    
    	Sure it is...  Look at the title of the topic!
    
    	(^;
    
    	Tigga~~~

              WELL HOW MANY OF YOU JBJ FANS SAW THE RUSSIAN EDITION
    OF MONSTERS OF ROCK!! IF YOU DID THEN I'M SURE YOU SAW HOW EVERYBODY
    (INCLUDING JOHN) EXCEPT CINDERELLA AND MOTLEY CRUE LOOKED SCARED
    SH#$LESS LOOKING AT 70,000 DRUNK RUSKIES.SOME OF THE RUSSIAN WOMEN
    WERE EVEN DRESSED IN AMERICAN FLAGS.WELL ANYWAY,CHALK ONE UP FOR
    H/M FOR FINALLY GOI'N OVER THERE  OVER THERE it's not over till
    it's ove.......................................................................................    
  ....................................................................................  
                          KILLER.                                      
    
    
    
    EX
    

    
    
    	Yikes!  Please keep the caps to yourself.  It's considering
    	SHOUTING in Notes and it's quite sore on the eyes at 8:00
    	in the morning (or at any time for that matter)
    
    	Just a friendly reprimand.  (8
    
    	Tigga~~~

    It's allowed in the BonJovi note though... It's so he can be heard over
    the screaming females...
    
    ;^)

    Or screaming guyz (read that any way you want  ;^))

    ;^)

    what does ; ^ and 8 mean???
    
    

    Ya mean:
    
    8^)
    
    or
    
    ;^)
    
    or
    
    :^)
    
    or 
    
    :^(
    
    
    They aree little faces... Smiles, winks, sad faces etc...
    
    

    re: -2
    
    Turn your erminal sideways!!  :^>

    So what did everyone think of Sunday nights show???
    
    Krissy

    re .480
    
    Buck,
    
      What is an erminal?? 8^) 8^) 8^)
    
    Renee

    
    
    	I missed the last two hours because the cable company's
    	scrambler messed up!!
    
    	Rob, I'm glad you don't work for my cable company or I'd
    	be P***ed at you!! :-)
    
    	JJ
    

    T + erminal = Terminal.
    
    Buck, who types too fast and never edits before ctrl z!

I liked "erminal" better, Buck...it sounded like some funky extinct animal
or something.....

	/kath_with_a_stuffed_platypus

                just because  you  have  cable  from  an inferior
                company ...  HAHA!!
                
                I'm  sure,  between    all  the  people  in  this
                conference, there must exist  several video tapes
                of the event.
                
                - Rob -
                
                :')
                

    
            Thanks for the input Coop.And sorry about the caps in my
    previous OPTICAL ONSLAUGHT.
                               Todd S.
    
                   P.S. Hey COOP,Nancy wants to hear a demo from Soundstage
    to submit to the big dog.FYI.

                               Todd/PERRY/Ken/THUNDERFEET/etc.

    I taped the whole show.... I have to say, that I was alittle
    disappointed with the BONJOVI part of it.  You could tell that they
    had been playing for a while before they showed the PAY PER VIEW
    audience... Jon was all sweaty right when they "first" came on...
    but they played AWESOME!!  Wanted to hear at least an hour of rockin
    from them...   
    
    I didn't think Skid Row sounded too good.  Thought that Cinderella
    was good, and Motley crue too were good.  Ozzy was weird as usual...
    and did you see the "beautiful" get up that the lead singer from
    Gorky Park had on??  Kinda funny!!
    
    Just my opinion!!   How's everyone doing today??
    
    

    I thought that Bon Jovi was okay.  I was a little disappointed that
    Jon didn't come out after when everyone was jamming at the end. 
    Made me think that he has a attitude problem or something.  Richie
    came out and jammed but Jon just waved bye!!! I was so disappointed.
    But for the most part, I thought they did a good job.
    
    I thought that Skid Row, Motly Crew, and Cinderella were pretty
    good.  I liked when they showed them back stage or touring in Moscow.
    They were cracking jokes about there being no malls or anything.
    They asked one guy on Motly Crew what he thought of the audience
    and he started to moon the cameras.  I thought that was funny.
    I also liked when Skid Row was riding around in a Golf Cart and
    they couldn't figure out why Russia has golf carts when they 
    didn't have any F***ing golf courses.  It's stuff like this that
    I wish they had shown of Bon Jovi.
    
    Was this show done live???
    
    See ya,
    
    Laurie     

    Hi Laurie,
    
    I think it was recorded earlier, cuz like with BonJovi, he looked
    like he had been playing for a while, he was all sweaty.  I was
    disappointed too that he didn't stay out and jam with them on stage.
     I don't like to think of him as "too good"... but some of the things
    he does kinda indicate that... but I still love him!!
    
    I loved watching the behind the scene shots with the bands.. they
    look like they're having a ball... and they'd be fun to hang out
    with.....
    
    I wish!!   I've got a few pictures of Sabastian that were taken
    at the Great Woods concert... he's a doll in person!!
    
    Krissy

    	   
          <First Jon and now Richie....I can't take it anymore>	  
    
          
    I heard on WAAF last night that Cher and Richie Sambora 
    bought a house in New Jersey because they wanted some
    privacy.
    
    Anyone heard this rumor..
    
    See ya,
    
    Laurie

    
    
    	Laurie...I heard Richie bought Rick Nelson's house..
    	I think it was either CA or FL.  But they could have
    	bought another one!!
    
    	I heard they've banned Cher's vid....so revealing...
    	Richie liked it tho!!  
    
    	I think she's attractive but the tattoos have to go....
    

    When did Cher call your friend an a**hole??  What else happened??
    Just curious....
    
    Any new scoop on Cher and Richie??  How about Jon and Dorethea??
    Seems like every news conference or interview, Jon REALLY avoids
    talking about the marriage or doesn't speak too highly about it.
    For instance, on MTV they showed him, and asked him about the big
    party they had surposedly to celebrate the wedding, and he said
    that it was pretty much just a "Big Party" celebrating the Moscow
    trip... no real word about his NEWBRIDE!!!  But I LOVE it when he
    talks that way!!  
    
    There's still hope!!  ha ha ha 

    
    
    	Ever think that he'd like to keep his private life private??
    	Good bad or indifferent???
    
    	Tigga~~~ (who thinks their marriage should be kept to 
    		themselves)
    
    

    What's that got to do with Bon Jovi ?  Face, it ... he doesn't cater
    to a male crowd (unless theye happen to have little sugar in their
    tank, understand ?), so I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the
    bank.  So don't let your hormones over rule your better judgement,
    he DOES sing like he's getting a figure 4 from Andre the Giant !
    But that's HIS style - it appeals to HIS pre-adolescent fans (we're
    talking about a crowd that thinks maxi-pads are something to write
    homework assignments on ..), it keeps HIS record company happy,
    so everybody's happy.  I'd love to hear one (1) song from him that
    didn't have the word "baby" in it.  I don't think he could do it.
    Anhd it would be much easier to talk about the artist if the music
    was 1st, and not the appearance (insert "posing" here).  I bet if
    this band wasn't under such pressure to keep their image up they
    could really rip, 'cuz they are pretty talented guys, the 1st album
    was a rocker !
    
    
    
    				Scary

    Copied without permission from today's edition of The Sun newspaper.
    
    
    Jon Bon Jovu is nursing a black eye after a viscious fist fight
    with a pal.
    
    Mild-mannered Jon, 27, laid into Crue drummer Tommy Lee during a
    row at a NY management office.  The punch up centered on a dispute
    detween partners Doc McGhee and Doug Thaler who managed both Bon
    Jovi and Crue.
    
    A Jovi insider said: "Jon was really shouting at Tommy and they
    started throwing blows.
    
    "Then McGhee and Thaler started fighting.  It was incredible.  Tommy
    landed a punch full in Jon's face and he ended up with a black eye."
    
    McGhee and Jovi stormed out and have cut themselves off from Crue.
    
    The insider added: "Jon was always moaning about Crue's outrageous
    behaviour."
    
    A spokesman for Jovi confirmed: "There was a difference of opinion.
    Motley Crue are no longer represented by Mr McGhee and Doug Thaler
    no longer works here."

    re:.522
    	Jon's complaining about the Crue's behavior is pretty 
    funny. Back when Motley Crue was on the cover of every rock
    magazine, and were on top of the business, and Jon's band
    were opener-peeons, I remember reading a few interviews with
    Jon, and he was bragging about his wild drinking nights with
    the band, Nikki Sixx in particular. Then again, every band in
    the biz back then used to say they partied with Motley Crue,
    since the Crue's lifestyle was pretty infamous.
    
    /Motorbreath...good shot Tommy!

    In the TV Guide this week there is an ad for whatever awards show will
    be on MTV Wednesday night.  There is a list of the preformers and is
    says "Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora".  Thought that was kinda odd.
    
    Rae

    
    	Yeah, Jon and Richie are doing an acoustic set, I guess.
    
    /Motorbreath...

After hearding Jon last night on the awards....I think those of you that 
scream how he has no talent and is just riding on looks and such are
just jealous because you're not in his shoes.

He was fantastic last night.

/kath

    
    
    	I agree Kath....he and Richie sounded fabulous....
    	Like I mentioned in the Awards note...I expect to see
    	Richie singing lead on at lead one tune on the next album.
    
    	I don't think Jon looked as tired as he usually does either.
    
    	I think it was a great performance.....
    
    	I do have one question though...does anyone know why the
    	rest of the band wasn't there?
    

    You thought he sounded good???  
    
    Ugh...maybe I need to watch the tape again, but I didn't think what I
    saw of them sounded very good at all.  
    
    I thought that Richie sounded a lot better then Jon.
    
    gh

RE: -.1

I suppose it all depends on what we each interpret as good.  I'm not much into 
the gargling razorblade sound that you can't understand.

JJ. I don't know where the rest of the band was.....but I really liked the
way they did it with just the two of them.....

interesting....

/kath

>I suppose it all depends on what we each interpret as good.  I'm not much into 
>the gargling razorblade sound that you can't understand.
    
    That's your opinion. As for me, I'm not into the little girl bubblegum
    voice either.
    
    
    Jon Bon was o.k.at best. I was surprised at Richie though.
    
    
    the devil dog who thinks that Jon Bon never should have headlined that
    Moscow fiasco.

    
    
    	One last comment (yeah, right!  :-)  ))
    
    	To those of you that compare Jon to Bruce ie his talking about
    	his hometown and friends..etc......I'd rather listen to that 
    	during a concert or whatever than every four letter word in the
    	book and talk about getting drunk, and partying all the time etc.
    
    	So he cares about where he came from and doesn't forget his 
    	family and friends now that he's a big star.
    
    	Give the guy a break.....
    
    	JJ (who has been having a really bad week and all this Jon bashing
    		doesn't help)
    

    Touche' Tigg~~
    
    I betcha there is some jealousy layered in these remarks.
    While I tent to like JBJ's old stuff (7800 especially), I think
    his latest effort (NJ) is a ripoff of Stringbean's style and prose.
    
    I'd love to have his money, his looks (read: his women), and his talent
    (he does have some)...But I'd like to have it making music MY way, and
    not try to be Born-Again in the USA. 

    Come on Jon, go back to YOUR style.
    
    jc

>>    Be honest now ... if Jon looked like Keith Richards but sounded
>>    like Jon, would he still sound as good ?
  

Well, Scary...since I don't particularly consider Jon to be too 
goodlooking, your point isn't too valid, is it?  He might have nice hair,
but that's about it.....

Of course he would still sound good.......FYI, I heard BonJovi on the radio and 
liked them for a LONG time before I ever saw what they looked like.



I'm off to start a topic....I'm getting sick of this.

/kath

RE: Poseurs beingg transparent and obvious....  what makes a poseur?  good
looks?  Attitude?  I haven't seen much BonJovi, but he doesn't seem to 
play heavily on his good looks (again....subjective) when he's performing...
at least not NEARLY as much as Kip Winger does! :-)

Can a person help it if they are attractive?  should they attempt to make 
themselves LESS attractive?  

/kath

RE: 77.546...

IMO.....he's got talent....perhaps he doesn't fully utilize it, 
but the guy's got talent, or he would never have made 
it as big as he did.

You can't get far on fumes.

/kath

	I beg to differ.  Many "bands" have made it big without the ability
	to write intelligent, meaningful songs, but with good looks, clever
	marketing, etc.  I'm not saying whether JBJ falls into this category,
	or not, I'm just sayin' that talentless [IMO] bands HAVE made it to
	hugeness without talent.  Look at NKOTB, The Partridge Family, etc.
	
	joe.

    BJ is a business, selling his looks, his songs, his show.  It is
    what it is.  Yes, he's talented - talented at writing hit songs,
    talented at catering to the post-pampers crowd, talented at saying
    "baby" 30 times in every song.  I hope Richie Sambora gets tired
    of taking a back seat to BJ and makes a break.  He can sing much
    better (IMO of course) and he's a damn good player.  I still like
    the old BJ much better, like the 1st album.  "Runaway", "Roulette",
    and "Tokyo Road" are killer.  Everything since then sounds like
    Barry Manilow in spandex ....    
    
    
    
    
    				Scary

Curious.....

	I heard a Bon Jovi song last night (forgot the name...you know how
	I am)......and strangely enough....I didn't hear the word "Baby"
	once!  (nor twice, nor three times...etc etc etc)

	Strange...............



	:-)

	/kath

    We're grown ups, so therefore I would like to settle the JBJ argument
    with a simple statement...
    Bands that are popular, but consist of ugly musicians, will be
    perceived as good musicians because the public knows they did not
    make it because of their good looks...
    Bands that are popular, but consist of good-looking musicians,
    have the possibility of being perceived as poor musicians, and the
    only reason they are popular is because of their good-looks.
    
    jab (I feel so enlightened)

    re: JJ, Kathy, others

    I don't see why you feel you have to be personally offended because
    someone made negative comments about JBJ, who you obviously like.  It
    seemed like most of the people that made negative comments about Bon
    Jovi did say that they thought he was talented.  I didn't see any
    blanket statements saying that ALL Jons fans are adolescent, nor did I
    see any personal attacks on any of you.  

    What I do see is your unwillingness to accept or allow others to state
    their opinions, even when they worded them reasonably intelligently and
    backed them up with the reasons they felt this way.

    Kathy, your example of the bash on Metallica is totally different from
    what's going on here.  You simply said they s*ck and have no talent,
    but didn't give any reasons for feeling this way. 

    (...and Shawn's right, if you want to talk about why you don't like
    Metallica or their music, the appropriate place is the note on that
    band.  While I know you were just trying to make a point, I don't think
    this was a good example.  I don't say that simply because I like
    Metallica, even though I do, I would say the same if you used that
    example in the Metallica note to bash Bon Jovi).

    I think that most Metallica fans would take comments like this in
    stride since the style of music which Metallica plays is controversial
    by nature will never be universally popular.  

    Why is it that Bon Jovi fans seem to expect everyone to like Bon Jovi
    too?

    Greg

                
                About BJ's writing ability ...
                
                I thought  Doc  McGhee wrote must of their stuff,
                but it was just credited to the band ...
                - Rob who's not too sure about how that works -
                
                

    Hmm...poor guy's gettin' way too much abuse, here. Have to go invest
    in the first album, find out for myself.
    
    Hey! I got it...what kind of car does he drive?
    Spaceknight
    

    
    Doc McGhee and Desmond Child write most of BJ stuff.

    
    
    re: .562  Thanks Kath
    
    	re: Greg (?)
    
    	Granted whoever is saying BJ fans are bubble gum chewing
    	teenyboppers may not come out and say ALL but from the context
    	of their notes that's the impression I get.  If that is not
    	the case, then I apologize.  
    
    	I will be one of the first people to say everyone has a right
    	to their opinion.  Lets just say one member of my family does
    	not really share that insight.  His opinion always had to be
    	right.  So I always objected.  Anyway, anyone can express their
    	opinion.  I don't have to like it, and they don't have to like
    	mine.  But the MAJORITY of the people who have written in
    	this note lately DO NOT think Jon Bon Jovi has any talent and
    	the main reason they made it is because of their looks.  If
    	the band was horrible I would not like them despite their looks.
    	Yeah, Jon and Richie would still be attractive to me but I would
    	not say that I liked their music because of that.
    
    	I guess I'm just sick and tired of hearing the majority of the
    	people in here bashing Bon Jovi because they think they made
    	it riding on Jon's looks.  But if that's what's going to happen,
    	I will "listen" and express my views and problems with that.
    	They will not change their minds, and I will not change mine.
    
    	JJ (who is in a wicked melancholy mood)
    

    Oh JJ...
    	I'm just SICK OF JON BON JOVI!!!!
    Okay?? It's nothing personal, and I don't think him OR Richie
    are that great looking, I just think that having these hordes of people
    so incredibly devoted to JON is sickening!
    	I don't think he got where he is just because of his long 
    fluffy hair, and oh-baby-baby-you-lost-more-than-that-in-my-back-
    seat lyrics, and if I didn't hear him on the radio, and see him
    on MTV 15 times a day, I'd probably have a different opinion
    of the man. It's just that his music doesn't excite me in the LEAST,
    and I'm tired of hearing it all the time, and having people say
    how GREAT he is all the time (99.9 percent female).
    	I honestly believe that if it was Junkyard playing JBJ tunes,
    they'd never make it to radio.
     
    /Motorbreath
    p.s. cheer up JJ! 8^)

    Richie Sambora has a NICE Rack !!!!
    
    Guitar World has an article on his stage set up.  I'll post some
    of the hot items in the Metal Guitars note when I get a moment.

    jc

    RE: Bon Coopster
    
    You just like it 'cuz he uses a GK pre-amp !  And you'd think with
    all his money he could afford a Roland, agagaga ...
    
    
    
    				Scary
    
    

    I ran into Bon Jovi yesterday.  I was offsite at the VALID Users
    Conference here in Phoenix, which was being held at the Squaw Peak
    Pointe. 
    
    Anyway, it seems that many, many women found out that he was supposed
    to stay at the Scottsdale Marriott after the show Tuesday night.
    They pulled a quick switch and went to the Pointe where we were.  He
    and Samboro were there around the pool with 2 goons.
    
    Mike

    No Greg,
    
    Generally I don't read it...But my rednecked roomate bought it,
    you I thought I'd leaf thru it.  It's also got a pretty good interview
    with The Original Mr. Scary in it.  He goes on and on about what
    a d*ick Don D. is.  Agagagagagagaaa...
    
    jc

    Yo JJ, I was the one who refered to JBJ as "Little Girl Bubble-gum
    Music". I also refered to all the teeny-boppers he plays for. I saw
    your picture in the HM photo album and I'd say you are not a
    "little-girl teeny-bopper",LGTB (tm). I'm sure you'll agree. 
    Since we agree that you are not a teeny-bopper why are you offended 
    by my generalization? Surely you had to know that I realize that JBJ 
    has fans that are not LGTBs (tm). Therefor it is I who would have cause
    to take offense considering you are in essence telling me that I am too
    narrow minded to see that. I really don't like being called that. I've
    always tried to give everythiing a chance. (Would you eat octopus?) In
    the future when I reference LGTBs (tm), and I will, please don't
    include youself in the gross generalization that this
    evil-Metallica-fan EMF (tm) is referencing. 
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    the devil dog
    
    p.s. have a nice day. ;^)                              

    
    	Yo, JJ - Devil Dog's right, ya know ... it's not like u
    	to make "blanket accusations" like that.
    
    	I think an apology is in order, and maybe even a dozen
    	long-stemmed roses sent to him every week for the next
    	year.
    
    	Do all parties agree with these terms?
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    	DD
    
    	I'm sorry if I insulted you or whatever.  That was not my
    	intent.  As from what you now tell me, I should not have taken
    	your comments as an insult.
    
    	So  (attention everyone)  I apologize to DD for taking his comments
    	the wrong way and inadvertently insulting him.
    
    	Oh, and BTW  there's no way I can afford a dozen red roses for the
    	rest of the year...even if there is only 3 months left!!
    
    	JJ who has just been having a really bad time lately and I guess
    	   I've been taking everything too much to heart...do you all 
    	   forgive me?
    

    Copied without permission from Kerrang Issue259.
    
    Jon Bon Jovi ad his brother Tony were recently given a well-deserved
    award by Monserrat Governor John Townshend for their invaluable
    services during the recent rampage of killer 150 mph hurricane Hugo.
    
    Our Jon took urgent calls for emergency supplies etc. on a WW 2
    radio set at New York's Power Station, evidently owned by his brother,
    which has a 15,000 watt radio mast.  He then passed the messages
    over to the authorities, thus savin' countless lives.
    
    Worra bloke!  Worra Hero!  Worra worra!  Great stuff, Jon-baby.
     The bar, and all who ail in her, salute you!
    
    Flip

    I just wondered if anyone else has been hearin the Bon Jovi remake of
    Thin Lizzy's "The Boys are Back in Town".  One of the local station out
    here in Iowa has been playing it the last couple of days, and claiming
    to be the only station in the world that has a copy of it.  According
    to them the rest of the country will get it next week.
    
    As far as there cover goes.  It sound pretty much the same as Thin
    Lizzy's version, just diferent voices sing the song.
    
    rodS
     

    re. flip 
    i think the part they took out was the part when they were in the hotel
    room and the parents like walked in..
    
    i felt it just wasnt a cool scene at all..
    
    
    personally i can think of alot of different scenios to go with the
    song, rather than the one they did...
    .
    
    			wendy o'
    

    Bon Jovi (as well as Bryan Adams) has offered a festive track to the
    re-released US compilation album "A very special Christmas".
    
    Bon Jovi offers a version of "Back Door Santa" and BA does "Run Rudolf
    Run".
    
    Flip

    
    
    Bon Jovi have added an extra gig to their sold out UK tour at
    Hammersmith Odean.  It's a Charity gig and all proceeds will be donated
    to the Nordoff-Robbins Music Therapy Centre, which treats mentally and 
    physically handicapped and autistic children.
    
    Flip

              Copied from Kerrang! without permission.
              
              Moscow festival:  Crue still Peace'd off with Bon 
              Jovi.  The feud goes on:  Nikki Sixx brands JBJ a 
              'lying asshole' and challenges him to a fist fight!
              
              (HARGH! HARGH! HARGH! -Flip)
              
              Motley Crue bassist Nikki sixx has challenged Jon 
              Bon Jovi to a fight!
              
              Sixx has branded Bon Jovi a 'lying asshole' after 
              the New Jersey frontman told us that he had nothing 
              to do with the incident at last August's Moscow 
              Peace Festival which prompted Motley to dispense 
              with the services of co-manager Doc McGhee.
              
              the Crue fired McGhee because they claimed he gave 
              the Jovis preferential treatment at the MPF.  For 
              example, Bj were apparently allowed to use 
              pyrotechnic effects while MC were not.
              
              JBJ has also refuted Crue drummer Tommy Lee's 
              claims that he punched him after a bust up in 
              Moscow.
              
              JBJ said:  "I would've busted his f*ckin head, he 
              wouldn't be alive to talk about it!"
              
              Jon has since described Sixx as the Kevin DuBrow of 
              the '90's and accused Crue "being afraid to live in 
              Bon Jovi's shadow".
              
              "Do you really think JBJ could kick anybody in 
              Motley Crue's ass?  Nikki Sixx told me recently.  
              "If he wants to man, I'll meet him!"
              
              "Obviously Jon Bon Jovi's a liar.  He went and got 
              married, then he said he didn't; then he said he 
              did.  He can't make up his mind what he wants to 
              be."
              
              Sixx went on to accuse everyone (bar the Crue) 
              involved in the MPF anti-drug and alcohol concert 
              of being drunk for the duration of the show. 
              
              "listen, we were the only people in Moscow who 
              weren't drunk and f*cked up and it was supposed to 
              be an anti-drug concert.  ok?
              
              "There's so much lying that went on.  If you're 
              over there to talk about not doing drugs, how the 
              f*ck can you go over there and get sh*t-faced?  i 
              don't think any of it was done honestly.  I don't 
              buy into it!"
              
              Sixx described BJ's music as a 'sell-out' and 
              claimed Jon's version of events in Russia was 
              'bullsh*t'.
              
              "That group of people lied," he said, referring to 
              McGhee Entertainment, the management company 
              responsible for handling Bon Jovi's affairs as well 
              as those of other MPF acts Skid Row and Gorky Park.
                                                  
              "That's something MC has never done. (B*ll*cks!  
              -Flip) We don't lie to our fans (double B*ll*cks; 
              remember the 'snow-on-the-roof' saga? -Flip)  We're 
              an honest band, we keep everything on the table."
              
              Flip

    
    
    I went to Aerosmith at Providence this past weekend and guess who made
    a SURPRISE appearance???  You guessed it - Bon Jovi came out and jammed
    with them for "Walk this way" it sounded cool and him and Steve were
    all over the stage. (JJ thought you'd be interested in this) - Kim

    
    
    	FWIW 	- Tico Torres is on drums
    		- Alec Jon Such is on whateverkindofguitarheplays
    		and the other guy is on keyboards but I can never
    		remember his name...david benjamin or brian david
    		or something like that.
    
    	
    	Tigga~~~ who's tired of seeing this note bashed all the
    		 time, too - and doesn't even care for Bon Jovi
    

	Copied form KErrang! without permission:

	The latest word from the 'inside' is that the current BJ tour
	will be the last for some considerable time.  Some sources, in
	fact, claim that it may be the last BJ tour EVER.

	The idea is to follow-up 'Noo Joisey' with the predictable 
	double-live album, scheduled for release later this year.
	Which will give band members - for 'band members' read Jon Jon
	and Richie Sambora - time to record and release solo albums.

	FLip

I'm just hearing a mini-lp from Bon Jovi which is an Japan Import. It contains:

	- Linving in Sin
	- Love is war
	- Blood on blood (live)
	- Born to be my baby (instrumental)

The last one sounds very good. Somebody else is singing with Jon, I guess it's 
Ritchie. Also the guitar solo is very good.  Isn't this song that they sang 
during a Award-type of show ?


Didier

    just an FYI-
    
    
    	the "band" that was assembled to record Blaze of Glory consists
        of:
    
    		Jeff Beck - lead guitar
    		Waddy Wachtel - slide guitar and dobro
    		Aldo Nova - electric guitars and synths
    		Randy Jackson - bass
    		Benmont Tench - keyboards
    		(I'm drawing a blank here, 
                  but he's been heard of before) - drums
                Jon Bon Jovi - vocals, accoustic and electric guitars,
                               piano
    
    	I guess these "name" players didn't consider the song "lame"
        enough to stay away from it.  
    
    
    	I kinda like it. At least it fits the movie it was written for.
        That's what a soundtrack is supposed to be, isn't it?
    
    
    					the bomb
     

Couple of points:

a.) I've also met Jon and his wife (then girlfriend), and they were nothing
    but very nice and curteous people. So he's not *always* an a**hole. (This
    was at the beginning of the 'Slippery When Wet' tour, when they backed
    up .38 Special at Great Woods.)

b.) Am I the only guy in the file who thinks that Bon Jovi (the band) has 
    gotten *better* with each album? I think that 'New Jersey' is their 
    best yet - great songwriting, much better lyrics, more expresive solos,
    great production, the whole works!

c.) There is no doubt that Bon Jovi (and Jon himself) became so popular
    partially because of their looks, and partially because of thier sound.
    But why do people see them as "selling out"? Seems to me that, if 
    anything, they have more musical integrity than ever before. And hey - maybe
    they *like* playing that kind of music! Its not "selling out", nor is it
    even their fault, if the music the like to play is also popular! (I know
    that, as a (semi-)musician, that the songs I like to play happen to also 
    be very popular, and people like them. Now am I selling out, or am I just
    playing what I like? Aren't they mutually exclusive???)

alan

    
    RE: -.1
    
    Ritchie *maybe* a good guitar player, but personally, I haven't 
    heard ANYTHING outstanding since his solo in "Only Lonely" which
    shows IMHO, he MIGHT have something up his sleeve.
    
    Now, this could be because of someone(Jon or Producer) is holding 
    Ritchie back as far as flashing his guit skill(if he has any).
    If his solo album shows any talent, then I'll gladly retract
    this statement, but until then, I'm not impressed.
    
    J-Dot
    
    PS  Was that better, Mr Moderator(s)???

    
    It looks like Bon Jovi are going to resolve their much publicesed
    differences with an open air New Year's Eve show in Japan, followed
    by a 15 date tour of the Far East and China.  All five members of
    the band have agreed to play the shows.  The New Year's eve show
    will also feature Skid Row, winder and Cinderella.
    
    Flip

    
    Funny that, I saw a picture of him (in Kerrang) in the dressing rooms
    just after a show and I swear there was eye liner, etc running down his
    face.  Perhaps he cries black tears!?!
    
    Flip

    Come 'n listen to my story 'bout a boy named John
    da poor jersey boy was just a_mow'in daddy's lawn
    Then one day he met a dude named Rich-eeee
    who said "you got no talent, but you can sing for me"
    Hair dat is, ya looks good, dat's for me...

    Well da next thing ya know 'ol JOhn is on da road
    meet'in da producers in the place where they abode
    They heard the songs and kicked him outta there
    They said you got no talent but you got all that hair
    Girls dat is, dey'll love it, LGTBs(tm)

    Now ya know 'ol JOhnny boy is rich
    but his career got's a seven-year type itch
    Headlined in Moscow, but he got upstaged
    The Scorpions were better and that made Johnny rage
    Pissed he was, turned cold, do a solo

    Johnny goes out and sings for da movies
    lotsa LGTBs(tm) think that thats groovy
    Sings the main songs in Young Guns two
    but I know it was lame, and JJ so do you.
    glory blaz'in, shot down, finished indeed.


    Hope this helped
    

    
    Richie Sambora's solo album should be released through the Underground
    label in April.  It doesn't, as yet, have a title.  There are quest
    apprearances from Eric Clapton and members of Bon Jovi.
    
    Richie will be coming to England during mid March to appear at the
    Royal Albert Hall with Eric Clapton, on the last night of the tour.
    
    Flip

    Clapton !  This is bound to s*ck ...
    
    The drummer in my band has a sister that travels with BJ and does all
    their wardrobe and backstage arangements (food 'n thangs ...).  He's
    been to LOTS of BJ shows, plenty of backstage jams, and was also at the
    keyboard player's wedding.  ANYHOW, he said Richie can *burn* when he's
    not confined to sappy love songs.  I think this should be a good album.
    
    Scary

    
    My point was that I just don't think his solo project would
    be very interesting. I mean, if he was a guitar wiz and released
    a completely instrumental album, that would be interesting. If
    he really liked heavy metal, and released a very heavy metal
    album, that would be interesting. If he really likes R+B, or 
    Country, etc. ... you get the picture. 
    The only thing is, it will probably be BJ type music, or geared-
    for-pop radio music, to his current audience, and it will be nothing
    exciting.
    
    

    
    I don'treally want to announce this because I know the kind of mayhem
    we get whenever something is said about the World's Number One Poseur
    band, but.....
    
    Richie Sambora was recently in London and he has squashed all rumours
    that Bon Jovi have permanently split.  They will reform and work
    together once again as soon as Jon and himself have completed their
    solo projects.  (Let's hope they're long projects!!!)
    
    Flip

    Heard on MTV that Ritchie Sambora got Eric Clapton to play on a tune
    called "Mr. Bluesman" or something like that.  The keyboard player and
    drummer for BJ will be on the album too.  I bet this is gonna be a good
    album - that boy's got some talent.
    
    Scary

    Ritchie Sambora (IMHO) is a GREAT guitar player, and I like his
    attitude.  JBJ, on the other hand, makes my bile boil.  Sounds like
    Springsteen getting an enema with a firehose.    8^)
    
    Ritchie said in that intreview that he probably would only play
    acoustic on that cut, and let Eric play all the electric parts - should
    have seen the smile on his face, he was genuinely happy about it.  He
    said a lot of folks were expecting a guitar album, he said it was gonna
    be "an album of songs".  So, I guess he's gonna demonstrate his writing
    abilities as well.  They'll tour, depending on record sales.  I think
    it'll do *very* well.  Why ?  I think the backbone of BJ's signature
    sound will come shining through, and it won't be tainted by JBJ's
    voice.  IMHO, Sambora can sing circles around him.  But then, Reb Beech
    can clobber Kip Winger too, but ...
    
    
    Scary

    Now that Itchy Slamdoorza(tm) has dumped cHAIR(tm), and since Taco(tm)
    wasn't doing anything but sucking on 12" dogs on the boardwalk, and
    since Jon Bomb(tm)'s solo career went down the shitter in a big way, I
    hear dat Blo Jobbi, the band, has been jammin again.  Tis sad times!!

             GET OFF!!!!!!!!!!
    
           No matter what you think about these guys:
    1) Their MONSTER songwriters!
    2) Theyv'e sold more albums that I could ever dream about!
    3)       Theyr'e really not that bad of musicians!
    
                         Frizkid
    

You don't have to like them to appreciate their collective talent!

I don't see anyone in here making that kind of money, boinking those kinda 
chicks, or being a household name.  I'd love to be that good...

jc (With his proverbial $.02 worth)

    YEA 	COOPERS RITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    
    	YOU GUYS ARE JEALOUS 
    
    
    {SO THER*}(TM) 
    
    				wendy o'
    
    

No, no - I don't even LIKE that song - I just think they deserve some
respect, regardless of if you like their sh*t or not.  Their RICH !

jc

    I keep telling ya, they don't deserve my respect 'cause they're rich!
    
    I still think they're slime and their music bites!
    
    gh

    
    
    I think they are great.. put on a great show... sound good live..
    
    and have some very strong material...
    
    
    
    And not cuz they're rich! If I had a chance to join that band, 
    I'd be there in a second!
    
    

    
    If they were auditioning drummers, I'd go for it.
    
    I need the cash.
    
    /prc

    Welcome to the club......Whitbud!
               
    prc/---You'd never make the auditions.........You play too fast.8*)
          Admit it right mr. prc/.....Tico Torres is a semi-technical,solid
    drummer!!!
                   You should respect them because they have money....
    You should respect them because they made money doing something they 
    love to do!!!!!!!
    
                         Frizkid
    

    
    
    Yea no stereotypes, PLEASE.
    
    The other night on MTV Lars Ulrich said, and I quote, "regardless of
    what you think of the songs on the album, 'Slippery When Wet' is a very
    lively album"
    
    
    Goddess

    I heard that too ... that seems like a "if ya can't beat 'em, join 'em"
    attitude.  The 1st album, was a killer !
    
    Scary

    "Et tu Lars..."
    
    Never thought I'd see him praising bon jovi
    

    
    He was justifying the producer I think ...

    
    
    YES!  I mean NO!  He was talking about the producer, because its the
    same producer they are using on this album..  thats why he said
    "REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK OF THE SONGS ON THE ALBUM, its a lively
    album."
    
    I just thought the adjective *lively* was kinda cute..
    
    
    Goddess

    
    >He was justifying the producer I think ...
    
    	Maybe he was SATISFYING the producer.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

Well, y'all might not like BonJovi, but when youre in the rock band business,
you gotta play whats popular.   Probably the best song we play, for getting 
a crowd going is a BonJovi song...

Like it or not, if ya wanna see some people move, play some.

jc

    Sad but true ...
    
    One night after the club had closed, me and a buddy of mine did a
    drunken version of `Dead Or Alive' on the back patio of the club with a
    pair of Ovations.  Next thing ya know, the place was packed, and every
    female there acted like we were singing to just them ... ya gotta love
    it.
    
    Scary

Now, it's pretty obvious why women like BonJovi...  But why do guys like it ?
Cuz the women do.  Why do guys in bands like to play it ?  Cuz the women love
it, and if the women like it, then the guys like it, then the band likes it...
See how it works ? l 

We play some pretty cool stuff, but if ya wanna see the dance floor packed
with very horny people all tryin' to get some (well, at the least the guys :),
play "I'll Be There For You".  Don't think the club owners/agents/managers 
etc... don't notice a packed dance floor...

When Guido and Tom said lets do I'll Be There For You, I went "Ack!", but after 
the first time we played it live, I'll go OUT OF MY WAY to play it.

Other than that, I'll play anything off of 7800...

jc

    Itchie Slamdoorza's new album is out.  I've heard the single "Ballad of
    Youth" a couple times now.  I wasn't impressed after the first listen
    so I thought I'd give it a chance.  I'm still not impressed.  It just
    doesn't sound much different from JBJ's stuff.

    I think Sambora has a bigger hand in the BJ sound than a lot of folks
    think.
    
    But he may have slipped into the BJ mold of trying to make a marketable
    album, rather than just an `expression' of himself, which probably
    wouldn't sell didley ...
    
    Scary

    
    	This is info for SueJ and Frizkid and anyone else who 
    	*likes* Bon Jovi.
    
    	Bon Jovi is receiving the MTV Video Vanguard award this
    	year on the MTV Music Awards.....  =)

    
    
    What is the Video Vanguard award?
    
    
    

    It means JonBomb(tm) gets to guard the equipment vans for the
    performing bands. It's considered quite an honor among roadies. Since
    it's JonBomb(tm) who gets to do it, they are gonna video tape it and
    realease it next winter with his Christmas album. The video will be
    featured in a song called "JonBomb(tm) The Vanguard Singer Dude".
    
    Goes somefin like dis.
    
    JonBomb(tm) the vanguard singer dude
    who guards the 'quipment trucks.
    Is making a brand new vanguard vid
    Cuz now he needs da bucks
    
    He praises the Lord at Christmas time 
    For the little bomber(tm) chicks
    cuz they buy up all his lousy video flicks 
    Lousy vid Flicks!
    cuz they buy up all his lousy video flicks 
    
    pee shpoo otim
    
    

    
    
    	I had to chuckle when I caught a bit of MTV this weekend
    	and they asked "Who has the best hair in video?"
    
    	I counted about four people before Bon Jovi's name came
    	up. (8
    
    	tigg~~~

I doubt that JBJ is hurtin' for bucks...Especially since Young Guns II
did (and is doing) quite well...

I wish I had his bucks...

    Yeh, but dude, you speak nothing of those most triumphunt lyrics. 

       Count me in on that one!!!!!
    
    
                     Frizkid 
                             

    
    
    	re: F.
    
    	I think it has to do with the contribution a certain	
    	artist or group has given to the video industry.  And
    	Bon Jovi certainly have cranked out a number of vids over
    	the years.
    
    	Jess.....pfffttth!
    
    	Also, FWIW, if I heard correctly, Richie's solo album comes
    	out today.
    
    	JJ
    

    They aren't doing a Christmas album.......
    
             Bon Jovi deserves the Vanguard award no matter what the losers
    of the H_M legion think!!!!!!!!
    
                      Frizkid
    

    
    
    I caught about 5 seconds of Richie Sambuccas(tm) new video last night
    on MTV..    To be honest, I can't give a fair judging of the song cause
    I didn't try to listen to it!  8*)

    
    To say the least I Can't Stand Bon Geeky.... But they have done a lot
    for ROCK N ROLL. The key word here being Rock n roll, Not Metal. With
    all their albums equaling aroiund 25 million sold, I'd say they were
    pretty rich... Though I can't stand them and I never will, they deserve
    the vanguard award, because they did help break down that barrier that
    Dance and Pop were creating to isolate the public from Heavy Metal and
    Rock N Roll. but, in any case I would have given the Award to someone
    like Queensryche, whose lyrics are much (100 times) better than Bon
    Jahova witness's....
    
    Chris.
     

Personally, I think the man is a lyrical genius...  So what if he writes
about love...  It's *only* one of the main reasons we're all sane (or INsane ;).

    previous van guarde awards have gone to Michael Jackson, Madonna,
    George Michael...just to name a few.
    
    I think Bon Jovi deserves this even though I personally don't like 'em.
    Richie sings better than Jon Blow Jobbie (tm) IMO.
    
    Jesse, those lyrics are most triumphant!  Where do you come up with it. 
    Can all this be the work of *ONE* man??  heehee`8)
    
    'pril

    I think Bon Jovi fits perfectly with the past recipients of the award. 
    He obviously deserves to be recognized for getting rich off people like
    Friz and JJ.

    gh

    
    
    	Nope.....I'm not gonna say a word....nope.  not gonna
    	give 'em the satisfaction.....ahem.
    

          Pril'...........
    
                   Jesse....A man???
    
      BAHAHAHAABAHAHAHAHAHABABAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
    
                You haven't met him......
    
           Greg.....AHHHHHHH    SHUDDD_UP!!!!!!!!
    
    
                 JJ........Give em' HELL!!!!!!!
    
                Frizkid....I'm pissed now!
    

    >>            Frizkid....I'm pissed now!
    
    They have bathrooms to hepp u wif dat problem. 

      Fact:
    
                 Video dictates how good a band does......
    
     You can't change this fact no matter how hard you bitch and moan.
            So bands are 'forced' to do videos are die a slow and painful
    death of poor record sales.  
    
           No videos=Poor record sales
    Poor record sales=Pissed record company
    Pissed record company=Dropped band{With no video}
    Dropped band=No fans,no money,no video,Owning pissed record company
    money.
     No fans,no money,oweing pissed record company money,no video=
    
         Band flipping burgers at MacDonalds taking orders for the like
    of Poison and Bon Jovi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
           It's all so simple......
    
    
                      Frizkid
    

    >>                 Video dictates how good a band does......
    >> You can't change this fact no matter how hard you bitch and moan.
    
    
    Friz, I have no problem with video or videos. Where the problem lies is
    when a band compromises its music safe in the knowledge that a triumphant 
    video will stem the FACK(tm) that the musical quality isn't there. 
    
    >>        So bands are 'forced' to do videos are die a slow and painful
    >>death of poor record sales.  
    
    Really? Old Van Halen did fine without Videos. Hail, Led Zep did great
    without the big video push. Queensryche and Metallica are examples of
    bands that didn'e let the video change their music, rather, they adapted
    video to it. Shame others can't.

    Led Zep....Was before videos became important.
       If I remember right Van Halen have a *FEW* slick videos.
    Queensryche.....
    
               Ahhh...wrong on this one bud.
       I guess you don't know too much about Queensryche?
    
           They have a vid for QUEEN OF THE RYCHE(Off the E.P.)
    They were the big goofs in the world and the vid is set-up like
    a Star Trek series.(Poseur ville)
    
     Then they had "Take hold of the Flame"......(In-concert)
    
     Then the omminace "Gonna get close to you" (Vampire Posuers)
    
       Fact:
                Queensryche was almost dropped from their record company
    after "RAGE FOR ORDER" because of poor record sales.
    
             
        Then they get mass appeal from the Operation:Mindcrime
    (Which by the way was made into a huge long video)
    
          Then the BIGTIME because of "Silent Lucidity"......
    
             A ballad none the less plus a real slick vid.
    
             Metallica was boosted into the BIGTIME with "ONE".......
    
               I don't remember many preppy type people asking me what the 
    name of the Metallica album was until that video came out....
    
    
             Stange.........
    
                             Frizkid
    

    
    	Yeah, but didn't Van Halen go 5 albums before doing videos?
    	"Jump" is the first one I remember.
    
    	And each of those 5 albums probably sold better than any of
    	their newer ones.
    
    							GTI

       With the expection the the first one....
    
              Wasn't 1984 their biggest?
           The one when they started doing videos......
    
       Also....Now that their doing videos all the time.....All of the
    albums have done better than in the old days.
    
                      Frizkid
    

    I tend to disagree on a couple of points.
    
    You said QR got mass appeal from O:MC, however the only video they did
    for that one (prior to it getting big), "Eyes Of A Stranger", was a
    total flop.  It got play on MTV for about a week.
    
    Yeah, they hit the BIG bigtime with stuff off Empire, but their core
    audience, the one that bougth about a million copies of that album the
    first week it was out, was not built from videos.  Probably not true of
    their next album, which I think is kind of sad.
    
    Metallica was fully established long before they did a video for One, I
    do not believe that had substantial impact on their success.  It seemed
    to me that Metallica started gaining a lot of sales with Master Of
    Puppets, not later.  
    
    Of course, I also believe that most people that only like a band
    because of one song are not true fans and don't do a lot to contribute
    to the bands long term success.   People that listened to One or Silent
    Stupidity and hated the rest of QR or Metallica's stuff won't buy
    another album (if they even bought that one).
    
    I have to agree about old VH though, they had a lot of videos and
    gained a substantial bit of popularity because of them.  They were
    among the first bands to capitolize on the growing music video
    industry.
    
    gh

    didn't VH have a video for pretty woman?
    As for Metallica they are definatley a band whose fame came from music
    alone.
    
    
    
                                                  Staynz

    re: VH videos
    
    They were popular before MTV started controlling the minds of the
    young.  Music videos started in what? '81?  VH had at least two, maybe
    three albums out then.  Music videos didn't start impacting the system
    until around '84, when bands started jumping on the bandwagon because
    they realized it was selling records.
    
    I think we all acknowledge that videos can boost record sales, the
    issue for some of us is whether we feel like the group or artist
    compromised themselves of the quality of their music and used videos to
    pump sales of an inferior product.  
    
    I personally think that Jon Bon Jovi did that with that song from the
    Young Guns II soundtrack, it was a poor song and I don't think it
    deserved the airplay or sales it received.  
    
    gh

    >>>Led Zep....Was before videos became important.
    
    Right. They made it on talent.
    
    >>   If I remember right Van Halen have a *FEW* slick videos.
    
    
    Sure they did, but they didn't change their music to accomidate them.
    IMO Panama and Hot For Teacher have just as much energy as any of it's
    predecessors.
    
    >>Queensryche.....
    
    >>           Ahhh...wrong on this one bud.
    >>   I guess you don't know too much about Queensryche?
    
    Really? Lets see.
    
    >>       They have a vid for QUEEN OF THE RYCHE(Off the E.P.)
    >>They were the big goofs in the world and the vid is set-up like
    >>a Star Trek series.(Poseur ville)
    >>Then they had "Take hold of the Flame"......(In-concert)
    >>Then the omminace "Gonna get close to you" (Vampire Posuers)
    
    Right, but they didn't use video as the crutch that a lot of others do. 
    
    >>   Fact:
    >>            Queensryche was almost dropped from their record company
    >>after "RAGE FOR ORDER" because of poor record sales.
    
    I cain believe it, but they didn't sell out.
                       
    >>    Then they get mass appeal from the Operation:Mindcrime
    >>(Which by the way was made into a huge long video)
    
    >>      Then the BIGTIME because of "Silent Lucidity"......
    
    >>         A ballad none the less plus a real slick vid.
    
    >>         Metallica was boosted into the BIGTIME with "ONE".......
    
    BUt neither band changed to fit the MTV image. The musicl quality was
    as consistant as it had ever been. The people who have been listening
    to these guys forever know that. Sure, Video helped sell a few albums,
    but neither band changed to accomidate it. Which was my origional
    point. 
               I don't remember many preppy type people asking me what the 
    name of the Metallica album was until that video came out....
    
    

     Well then....Please name some people that do "write" songs with a 
    video in mind......
    
        I don't remember anyone in my band going lets write this it'll make
    a cool video.
    
                       Frizkid
    

    
    
    	Friz,
    
    	Hang it up.  All the facts in the world you try and present
    	to them isn't going to change the minds of those in here who
    	despise Bon Jovi.  I've tried for a loooong time and gave up.
    	I just take it all with a grain of salt or next unseen so
    	I don't get p***ed.
    
    	They hate 'em and that's that.  I will say however that since
    	Bon Jovi does most of their vids from concert footage that
    	they're one of the few bands that doesn't show women as nothing
    	but sex objects.  And before the rest of you jump on my case,
    	no, I'm not saying that QR etc do.....but MOST of the metal/
    	hard rock bands out there use women in skimpy clothing to push
    	their videos.
    
    	JJ (and yes, I'm in a slightly grumpy mood today)
    

    
    
    From what I understand, Metallica's "...And Justice for All" had already 
    gone platinum before they released the video "One".
    
    
    Goddess F.

    Yo JJ, the argument wasn't necessarily against JonBomb(tm), it was
    against how video's make up for poorer music. IMO JonBomb(tm)'s music
    started hitting the sh*tter when he began to use video as a means to be
    seen and not heard. I mean, I like Bon Jovi's older stuff. 

Gee, I think the Young Guns II song is kinda cool...  I don'tcare for the acoustic
crapola, but I think the lyrics are baaaadddd-assssed.

     Jon Bon is definatly a lyrical god............
    
             Whether you like his music or not.
    
    
                        Frizkid
    

    You've got to be kidding!  I think it's contrived and trite.  "That's
    why they call me Young Gun"  Gimme a break...
    
    gh

    However, before you go blasting me more...

    I would agree that most of Jon-boy's lyrics are pretty good.  That one
    song is more like an aberration.

    gh

    >> Jon Bon is definatly a lyrical god............
    
    Yo mean Liar-ical(tm)
    
    p.s. congrats for yer band.

      What does he lie about?
    
           His lyrics are WICKED COOL!
    
                           Frizkid
    

    
    
    	Greg,
    
    	What do you expect, the movie was called YOUNG GUNS II.!! Of 
    	course those words are gonna be in there!  That album was not
    	about him.....it was about the movie.
    
    	FWIW - and this is not just because I'm a Bon Jovi fan, 
    	Young Guns II - the whole album - is probably one of his
    	best projects.  95% of Bon Jovi's lyrics are written about
    	things *he* feels or things the band feels or things that
    	have happened in their lives.  This time he had to write
    	about something he didn't experience.  The lyrics are good
    	and the music is good.  The best song on the CD (IMO) wasn't
    	released, called "Santa Fe".  He belts out some great notes,
    	has a chorus and violins included.
        
    	{breath}
    
    	
    

    
    
    	BTW - It's me JJ in -1.  My disk is down so I'm using another
    	account.
    

    re: check OUT blood on blood
    
    
    (where have you people been ) 
    shesh!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
    
    
    >>   His lyrics are WICKED COOL!
    
    
    doesnt desmond child do the writing, tho'??
    
    
    
    		wendy o'
    
    

    I expect people to write about what they like and what they want to,
    not what they're paid to write about.  GnR did a song on the Terminator
    2 soundtrack, but nowhere in it does it say "I'll be back".
    
    Like I said, I do think most of BJ's lyrics are pretty good.  That one
    just grates on me because it sounds contrived.
    
    ...and leave that breathy thing out of it (.462 last line).  You *know*
    what that does to me!
    
    gh

      If *YOU* know everything don't ask us they question....
    
    
                  Shhheeeeezzzz.................
    
             Frizkid....Bon Jovi 'might' have some help but for the most
    part write his own stuff.
    

Greg, STOP using that word, or I'll PAINT IT ON YOUR BUS WITH HOT PINK SPRAY
PAINT (and you know I have a can) !!

:)

      I was thinkin' the same thing Coop.........
    
    
                    Good Idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!8*)!
    
             Then everybody will call it the the CONTRIVED HIPPIE BUS FROM
    HELL!~
    
                               Frizkid
    

    Bon Jovi are crap `cos you can`t mosh to it etc,idiot comments,etc.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

       I can MOSH to Jovi........
    
    
                  What's wrong wif you..8*)
    
                  Frizkid
    

    Well, i dare say i could MUSH to Bon Jovi.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    	RE: Greg
    
    	Yeah, but G&R uses "Terminator II" footage in the video, even
    	though they don't use movie lines in the song itself.
    
    	An obvious ploy to sell more records on the basis of being a
    	movie song.
    
    	8^)
    							GTI

    
    Actually, the song was written before T2 even was filmed or written,
    for that matter. 
    
    When GnR was asked to do a song for that movie, they just didn't have
    time, so they just took one off their new album, and threw it in...
    If you listen to the lyrics, it isn't even close to being about a
    terminator, but about a girlfriend.... (I doubt he'd talk that way to
    linda Hamilton)
    
    chris.
    

    
    Arnold picked that song off of several from UYI1 and 2. They basicly
    said, "here you go, choose from one of these."

    What happened to this note?!?
    
    It had over 1000 replies at one time...now it's in the 400s?!?!?!?!?

    
    All the junk was deleted! I did it from my stealth account that even
    the mods don't know about! 8-)

    Oh yeah, and one of those Mods just moved a boatload of junk notes
    (many of my own) from this topic to Mutterings...
    
    gh (the Mod from Hell)

    
    
    	Im Back.. This reading was pretty funny! 8)
    
    	They looked soooo AWESOME! at the MTV Awards...
    
    	Definately deserved the award! I like Richie's new song...
    
    	SueJ

    I saw the video for Richie's new song on MTV this weekend.  I thought
    it was *ok*, but it sounded a little generic for my tastes.  I remember
    thinking that the chord progression was pretty bland.  He's got a good
    voice, but on that song it seemed to lack character.
    
    gh

    RE:-1
    
    One of your wittiest replies ....  8^)
    
    Scary (who thinks SpawnJovi's new tune sounds pretty good ...)

    
    	SueJ
    
    	I agree.  They looked great.
    
    	I saw Richie's vid over the weekend.  First time I've heard
    	the song too.  I like it.  (but you all expected that!)  =)
    

    
    
    	For those who care:
    
    	Jon has released a cover of Elton John's "Levon".  It can
    	be found on a CD called Two Rooms.  It's a collection of
    	songs done by Elton John and Bernie Taupin, sung by various
    	artists.....Jon, Wilson Phillips, Sting, George Michael,
    	Tina Turner and many others.  Wilson Phillips does a nice
    	cover of "Daniel".
    
    	JJ
    

    WHOA! How did this topic get to 490 replies. Wasn't it somewhere near
    1000 at one time?

    
    
    	I think Shawn went through and cleaned out all the
    	garbage replies......quite a while ago too!
    

    I bet all the good stuff is gone.  8^(

    Nope - *all* the garbage isn't gone ... otherwise there wouldn't be a
    base note.  Wagagagga ...  8^)
    
    I heard that tune on the radio - not bad, but not on my wish list
    either.  Anybody heard all of Samora's album ?  Comments ?
    
    Scary

I heard on the radio that BonJovi is back...  Going to the studio in
two weeks to start on an album to be released this fall...  Coolness ??

    ...NOT !  8)

    I'm PYSCHED!!!!!!
    
          Frizkid
    

    
    Stool'in!

    Blowin' chunks!

    
    	'bout f'in time!!
    
    	I'm starting to go into withdrawals and Slippery... and New
    	Jersey are getting' worn out!
    

    re: JJ
    
    I thought that New Jersey was pretty worn out when it first came out. 
    Only so many ways you can remake Bruce Spr*ngsteen songs...
    
    re: Coop
    
> Coolness ??
    
    Not likely.
    
    gh
    

    
    	gh
    
    	BLASPHEMER!  You can't compare Bon Jovi to that twirp
    	while I'm around.....it ain't legal!
    
    	Repent!  Repent!
    
    	=)
    

    Oh JJ, you're such a martyr!

    
    	RE: Buck
    
    	She learned from an expert....
    
    
    
    	You. (;
    
    	tigg~~~

    
    
    	bahahahahahaaaa!  ahem.  =)
    
    	Hey I gotta keep up my image as Queen LGTB(tm) dontcha know! =)
    

    re: JJ
    
    But Jon (boy) is trying SOOOOO hard to BE him!
    
    gh

    
    
    HE IS NOT!!  Now you take that back you big bully!  =)
    
    	<insert picture of JJ with arms crossed and pout face here>
    
    	

    Well, you know how much I love that look, but it doesn't change the
    facts...
    
    8^)

    You guys stop picking on JJ!  

    
    
    	aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!
    
    	(I hate it when I can't come up with a witty retort)
    

    
    	Thank you BJ...... =)
    
    	But if Bon Jovi's album is released this year, Friz might
    	lose the coveted Most Bashed award....cuz this note will
    	get quite lively with the bashing I'm sure!
    
    

    This note was welli into the .1000's once with JJ bashing!!

    You're just jealous cuz you don't have his hair, Buckminster!
    

     Bj:I don't even wanna know about that P_N! 8)
    
     JJ:I think if the new Bon Jovi comes out this year we'll both be in a
    heap of sh*t.  Not to fret though....I'm in it with ya! (Yea, Like that
    means anything)
                         Frizkid
    

    Sorry JJ- got here tooooooo late! I CANT WAIT FOR the NEW RELEASE!!!!
    My Youngs II is definately worn out! 
    
    Sue

    
    
	RE: JJ
    	>aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!
    	>(I hate it when I can't come up with a witty retort)
    
    	Stick your thumbs in your ears and wiggle your fingers
    	like a maniac and then pfffffffffffffffffth toward
    	him.
    
    	Works for me. (:
    
    	tigg~~~

I suspect that BonJovi's new album will *SHIP* platinum.
But I gotta agree with Greg, there is only a couple of good tunes on
New Jersey, and it is awefully Springsteenish....

I'm just hopin' that BonJovi does something like Slippery or 7800 Farenheit
this time around. 

JJ/Tigg - Don't worry...Me n Friz be with ya !

jc (Lookin' forward to it!)

    
    	RE: jc
    	>JJ/Tigg
    
    	Whaddya mean Tigg??  I wasn't in here defending him!
    	Sheesh.. get it straight. (8
    
    	tigg~~~

    It don't matter who is with JJ on this one. If JonBomb(tm), Itchy(tm),
    Taco(tm), et al. make a new album JJ will get most bashed Hands down.
    I'll personally see to it. Will I buy it? Nope I'd rather shave my head
    with a cheese grater.

    I think it'll RIP.

    
    
    	Ritchie Sambora is scheduled to be on Arsenio Hall tonight.
    

    
    
    	I think I'll have to tape it.  I'll be dead to the world by
    	the time Arsenio is on!
    
    	Thanks for the info Paul!
    
    	JJ
    

    
    	RE: JJ
    
    	And seing Ritchie would make me even more tired!!
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

    Yup, instant Zzzzzzzzz. I cain see why JJ would tape it. It'll hepp her
    when she drinks too much coffee.

    
    
    	pppfffttth!  Actually I watched the first half hour cuz my	
    	nails weren't dry enough to go to bed.  =)  I taped the second
    	half cuz he was gonna perform again.  He looked good!  David 
    	and Tico were playing for him along with another guitar player
    	and bass.  Don't know who they were though.
    

    
    	>along with another guitar player
    	>and bass.  Don't know who they were though.
    
    
    	Neither did Ritchie ... he scooped them off the street on the
    	way to the studio.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI

    	>along with another guitar player
    
    Hey, he had to have *someone* to cover the tough parts while he was
    posing!

    
    
    	Now cut that out!!  =)
    
    	The only thing missing from Richie's performance was his
    	black hat!  He just doesn't look like himself without it.  =)
    

    
    	RE: He just doesn't look like himself without it.  =)
    
    
    	Ya... you can see his nose without it on. (; (;
    
    	tigg~~~

    
    sniffle sniffle.... I MISSED IT!

    Lucky you!  I missed it too!
    
    gh

    
    Sue...
    
    It's the Arsenio Hall show... They'll repeat that episode a hundred
    times before taking it off the roster. 
    
    

    Well, I went out at lunchtime and picked up a few tapes, including
    'Slippery When Wet'.  The *only* reason I bought the tape is because I
    really like 'Wanted Dead or Alive'.  Having listened to the tape the
    whole way through, I have to say that WDoA is *still* the only reason I
    bought the tape.... I've never been much of BJ fan anyway, but I've
    been wanting to get a copy of WDoA for a long time, and the tape was on
    sale anyway, so it wasn't a complete waste of money.
    
    

    I remember when I went to the NEW JERSEY record release party.
    What a bore...the album was a loser on the 1st listen!!  Had more
    fun talking war stories with the trooper assigned to the soiree.

    Was that the one where you were at some bbq.

I gotta side with Friz here.

BonJovi has many skills.  One of which is certainly writing platinum 
type music.  The other is nailin' himself some awesome lookin' wimmen.

Wish I had his looks AND talent.

If someone told you you could make a cool multi-million a year, have any babe
you want, and be a international celebrity, wouldn't YOU go for it ??

jc

>If someone told you you could make a cool multi-million a year, have any babe
>you want, and be a international celebrity, wouldn't YOU go for it ??
    
    I suppose so.  I mean, I do a job I hate now and don't get paid nearly
    that much.
    
    gh

    
      Like ya know - JonBomb drives a Ferrari and I don't.. 
    
      I wouldn't trade places with him in a minute. Hmmmm-
    Actually my band does a tune from the first BJ album and it goes over
    quite well. But I'm not gonna say what song other than it ISN'T
    "Runaway".
    
    						-B()()M-

    She Don't Know?   
            That tuneage is wicked!
    
            Friz<
    

    Well....Well...Well....Long time no album!
    
     Bon Jovi have about half of their new album entitled "Keep the Faith"
    done.  Tracks like "Bed Of Roses" (ACK) and "I'll Sleep When I'm
    Dead" are on the album.  
    
            Friz
    

    baaarrrrffffff!!!!

    
    	I listened to the 1st album last week, and it still cranks.
    
    
    						GTI

    Friz you forgot...
    
    ..."Be My Bubble Yum"
    
    and "You're my flower".

    RE: -1
    
    Please tell me you're just kidding with those song titles... Then
    again, it's Bon Jovi we're talking about, so it's not entirely out of
    the question...  8^)
    
    Heh heh heh...
    
    

    Nope, them was the names Friz told me.

    
    
    	HALF DONE?!!!  s***!  I thought they woulda been done by
    	now?!  sigh...
    
    	Jesse,.....yer full of it and you know it!  =)
    	
    	JJ
    

    JJ:You don't want them to rush it and put out a good album.
    I want an EXCELLENT album....
    
             They'll sell millions and laugh some more at you lame people.
    
        Friz
    

    
    What has Bon Jovi been up to lately??? Is he touring?
    
    
    }{

    
    
    	Touring?  no.  They're latest album is due to be released in
    	October.  I'm guessing the first single will be Keep The Faith
    	as MTV plays a snippet of it along with a few other songs as being
    	in their 'fall lineup'.
    
    	It had better be good, for making me wait this long!!  =)
    
    	JJ Queen LGTB
    

    
    
    I'm gettin' back stage passes when they come around this way!

    Yea right! And I'm gonna do my hair in a Princess Lea buns like Anothy 
    K. in the RHCP video! NOT!!!!!!!!!! 
    
    JBJ RULES!!!!! He is going to save the world from the sad musical state
    it's in right now. 
    
           Friz
    

>    What has Bon Jovi been up to lately??? Is he touring?
    
    I'm told he's been workin on a new hairdo.
                                             
    gh

    Hey Chris,Is Nuno gonna get you those Back_Stage Tickets?
    You know,You two can have Dinner first,then go to the Show.
    
              Crazy_In_A_Bustin_Mode_Al

    
    I'm gonna film that dinner!
    
    
    

    JBJ is awful....Pose Rock
    
    Friz- Ill bet ya anything that GLAM is gone....just like disco did in
    the 70's. Record sales is WAAAAYYYY down in that music catagory. The
    sales in the alternative/heavy/grunge market is still going up. For
    Example Pearl Jam is averaging 250,000 sales per week.
    
    The reason music is down in that market is because ALL their 
    music s*cks.....most Motley Crue....JBJ.....Cinderella....Faster
    PussyCat...Tesla....Skid Row.....Firehouse................The reason is 
    that people are sick of hearing the same sounding songs sung about the 
    same old subjects.
    
    	bOb    :*)

    
    Re: -1
    
    AMEN!
    
    If I hear another song written about a "true love" I'm gonna be sick.
    

    BS!!!!!!!!!!!
    
          Friz
    

    
    I'm sorry, next time I hear one of your bands on the radio, I'll get my
    Posuer-to-English dictionary out so I have an idea of what they're
    saying.
    
    
    btw what does "Ohh baby baby" translate to?
    
    
    

    It translates into Chris is an emotionless dork. 8)
    
         Friz
    

    
    
    Well, for the SMALL clip they played on MTV of 'Keep the Faith'.. I 
    thought it totally inhaled.. 
    
    I just hope the rest of the album is better..
    
    
    As for poser rock coming back.. Sorry posebro, unfortunately I don't 
    see in coming back anytime in the near future... 
    
    
    Wpose-

     
    Friz-
    See Pose.....Jim knows!!!!
    
    See the light you long haired freaky styley kind of Man (wo)
    
    :*)
    
    Thanks Jim....maybe friz will get the hint/point/idea/thought/whatever!

    Listen....I'm stickin to my guns....It's the only thing I have left.
    
             Friz
    

    
    
    	Guys!  You're not getting anywhere with this (so what else is
    	new?)
    
    	Let's not judge it till the darned thing is released ok?
    	Bon Jovi's been around for close to 10 years.....and I think
    	they'll around for a long time to come.  Whether you classify
    	them in the 'poseur' category or not, I don't really care.  I
    	enjoy their music and will be one of the first to pick up the
    	new CD when it's released....
    
    	There's a lot of different types of 'metal' music out there right
    	now....let's give all of it a fair shake eh?
    
    	JJ
    
    

    
    	Oh, come now, Judy ... there's a formula to follow when judging
    	new music:
    
    	1)  If it's a Bon Jovi album, it sucks.
    
    	2)  If it's by anyone else, it might be good.
    
    	Memorize this ... you will be graded later.  And remember ...
    
    	... neatness COUNTS.  8^)
    
    							GTI

 >>  Listen....I'm stickin to my guns....It's the only thing I have left.
    
             Friz
    
    
         Yeah cause ya lost yer band, woman, house, your manlyhood...now go
         put yer lipstick on....your spandex on....your hairspray on....and
         put on JBJ's SWW......sitback and enjoy yerself and your posebro
    	 existance........
    
    PUUuuUUcccCK!!
    
    :*)

    
    I'm gonna buy 600 copies of the new BJ album!

    
    	Gonna give me one?  =)
    
    	re: .599
    
    	SWW?  (I know I don't really wanna know but curiosity got the 
    		best of me)
    
    	re: GTI
    
    	ppppppffttth!  =)
    

    SWW...c'mon JJ...even i know this one..SLippery When Wet!!....;').../k

    
    	Ah, ok.  he said "JBJ's SWW"  that's what threw me.  the band
    	is Bon Jovi, not Jon Bon Jovi.  I thought SWW was something that
    	Jon wears or whatever.....  =)
    
    

    
    Yeah yeah yeah, I'm writin' the fan club...

    I have lost NO such things BOB!  I still have all of the said in
    question.   The only thing I don't have is your approval and that's is
    going to keep me up all night. SHA!
    
         Friz
    

>    Yeah yeah yeah, I'm writin' the fan club...
 
    Is Jon the president?

    No....its run my Michael Schenker!!!
    
    
    hehehe
    
    

    After what I did this weekend I think a new JonBomb(tm) album is
    perfect.
    
    
    HOLY MOLY!!!

    Did anyone see the shooting of the new Bon Jovi video on The Day IN
    Rock?  I DID!!! The video should be out this week.
    
       Friz
    
    

    
    
    	Damn!  I missed it.....
    
    	Friz....gimme a detailed description.  you're the fourth person
    	that's said it looks terrible......  =(
    

    JJ: Well....The video was shot in New York on the streets.
    Only Jon and Ritche were there...I heard more of the song and I liked
    it more than the little snippet they were playing. 
    
    Jon's hair is kinda like George Micheals when he was in Wham. Kinda....
    It's shoulder length and has a big wave over to the side in front.
    He doesn't look that bad per say but NOTHING like he used to.
    
     Friz<
    

    I'll be the 5th JJ - WhyTF did he DO that !?

    
    	Well actually from Friz's description it doesn't sound
    	that much different from the last time I saw him on MTV.
    	They were interviewing him for something or whatever.  It
    	was shoulder length, straight, and kinda parted on the side.