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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Thu May 05 1988
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984.0. "WidowMaker" by USOPS::CLELAND (Centerline violation...) Fri Dec 17 1993 12:25

    	Dee Snider's new band WidowMaker will be appearing at The Rockpile
    	in Saugus, MA. this saturday night, Dec. 18th...
    
    	WAAF will have a DJ there hosting the show, John Osterling.
    
    	This is the holiday bash at the Rockpile, WAAF will be giving away
    	T-shirts, CD's, and Aerosmith tickets for the New Years Eve show.
    
    	Widowmaker is headlining, of course, with three support acts.
    
    	Mother Train, former members of MASS. will be up before Widowmaker.
    
    	Before them, two local acts, Tongue & Groove, and Twisted Fate.
    	I just hope Dee doesn't get sore because my band's name has the
    	word "Twisted" in it...
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984.1POWDML::BUCKLEYScandalized my name!Fri Dec 17 1993 13:051
    Say hello to my ole Berklee buddy, [Widowmaker guitarist] Al Pitrelli.
984.2double check that!QRYCHE::STARRRemember your mission!Fri Dec 17 1993 14:0013
> Dee Snider's new band WidowMaker will be appearing at The Rockpile
> in Saugus, MA. this saturday night, Dec. 18th...

You might want to confirm this before going, I think the show *might* be
cancelled/postponed. Not positive, but I know the PA/soundman we hired for
my band's show tomorrow night was available because he was supposed to do 
the Dee Snider (Widowmaker) show, but it was cancelled yesterday on him.

(Of course, they just might have switched sound companies, I dunno. But
you should at least make the phone call.)

alan
984.3WAAF promotions still goingUSOPS::CLELANDCenterline violation...Fri Dec 17 1993 14:3820
    	Hmmm, well, if it is cancelled, WAAF has got alot of advertising
    	to apologize for. They've been airing the promo for this show
    	for over a week.
    
    	Th 'Pile has their own sound system, which is manned by the one
    	and only Peter Hunt, the original guitarist for Extreme. At the
    	time they were called The Dream, but then they found this guy
    	named Nuno Bettencourt, well you know the rest...
    
    	Pete's quite adept as a sound engineer, in fact he engineered the
    	'My Little Funhouse' gig there more than a month ago, as well as
    	the 'White Trash' show. They shouldn't be lacking for sound, but
    	I cannot speak for Dee, or his management (obviously).
    
    	WAAF is actively promoting the gig, so if it's cancelled, somebody
    	please tell 'AAF, and John O. (the "O"-zone).
    
    	BTW, for those who don't know, The Rockpile is all the way 'round
    	in back of The Officer's Club, Rt. 99 in Saugus. Keep walking back
    	around towards the Bahama Beach Club, it's just behind the BBC.
984.4QRYCHE::STARRRemember your mission!Fri Dec 17 1993 15:2510
> The 'Pile has their own sound system

Oh, maybe Widowmaker had two shows scheduled for tomorrow then; the guy did
say something like "I was booked for an all-day gig that got cancelled".

BTW, throw in a review if you stick around to hear them, I'd be interested
in knowing what they're like.

alan
984.5GOES11::HOUSEYou sick little monkey!Fri Dec 17 1993 17:155
    I heard one song of theirs on the radio back when the album first came
    out and thought it was tres cliche.  I wouldn't even buy it at a cutout
    price...
    
    gh
984.6the band that wouldn't diePOWDML::BUCKLEYScandalized my name!Fri Dec 17 1993 17:203
    I heard Dee say on Howard Stern that Widowmaker was going to tour until
    they broke big time into the national acts, so, we'll probably all be
     seeing more than our fair share of WM gigs in the future!!
984.7GOES11::HOUSEYou sick little monkey!Fri Dec 17 1993 18:351
    Dee must have a lot of money in reserve or something...
984.8Blowout show, monster chopsUSOPS::CLELANDCenterline violation...Tue Dec 21 1993 13:38109
	Man o man, wowsers, oh my gawd...

	Dee doesn't need alot of money if he keeps his current lineup.
	I can't believe it, but Joey Franco has gotten better with age.

    	RockPile, Saugus, MA, friday Dec. 18, 1993
	Dee's road crew had beefed up the inhouse PA quite a bit, and was
	doing a sound check.

	Mother Train's road crew arrived about 30 minutes before we did,
	and of course, took up the space of three bands on the side of the
	stage. I couldn't complain, after all this was "Mass", just under
	a different name. We were just a local band who got lucky 'cause
	the club likes our stuff.

	I started setting up my kit out next to the bar, when Dee walked
	up to the stage, to dictate his needs to his crew. He wasn't that
	bad actually, he just stated what sounded like "crap", and asked
	for more "balls" from certain sides of the stage. Then his band
	did "Shoot 'em Down" for a soundcheck. Kind of freaky setting up
	my drums in the bar, whilst Dee Snyder was singing a Twisted Sister
	original. I was truly digging the whole scene...

	After the soundcheck, this dude who played with Dee walked up to the
	front of my kit and said, "Are you a drummer?". I said yes, and said
	"Man, you're a great player". He nodded and said thanks, and was very
	friendly to say the least. I said "I'm sorry, what's your name?".
	He smiled and said, "Joe, Joe Franco", I reached out to shake his
	hand, he smiled and walked out with Dee and Al and the bass player.

	I then stood there like a dip****, realizing who had just said hello
	to me. Joe Franco? God that sounds familiar. Oh my gawd, THAT was THE
	Joe Franco? I could've slapped myself silly, I just asked the original
	drummer for the Good Rats what his name was! No wonder he sounded like
	a hot player, HE IS! Man, what a dope I was! Not only was he a member
	of the Good Rats, he also replaced AJ Perro in Twisted Sister the last
	year or so. Man! I felt like such a dweeb!

	Well, a brief sysnopsis, my band was lucky enough to have John O. on
	the stage to introduce us, but he didn't know the name of our band,
	so we were introduced as a "great local Boston band". We blew our
	load for 30 minutes, struck the last chord, and the stage guys said,
	"Next!". We scrambled off the stage...

	Mother Train started up, and sounded pretty darn good too. They also
	played that Xmas song that Stryper played as a flip side on a single.
	"Walking in a Winter Wonderland". They played it very well, their
	singer is real good, sounded just like Stryper. The whole band was
	very good. They were allowed 45 mins. on stage, we were only given
	30 mins...

	Before Widowmaker John O. gave away round trip airfare to "anywhere",
	to a girl in the front of the stage. He wanted to give the airfare
	to someone who could do a stupid human trick. One guy tried to tie
	a string with his tongue, took him too long (he succeeded). Next guy
	said he would lock his arms behind his back, and fall flat on his face
	on the stage. He did, looked quite painful, but still not good enough.
	John knew what the crowd wanted (they were mostly guys), the crowd
	was screaming "We want t*ts!" over and over again. My guitarist sent
	his younger sister onto the stage, but she couldn't give the crowd
	what they wanted, she got a WAAF T-shirt and a smile. Next girl went
	up, took off her sweater to put on a WAAF T-shirt. John O. made it
	very clear that he was giving away airfare to ANYWHERE. There was
	only one thing she had to do. She did. "I think we have a winner!"
	The crowd went wild...

	To say the least, Widowmaker was hot. Talented, very talented. Dee
	still sounds like Dee Snyder. Joe Franco was the shining star, he
	was unstoppable on his Premier drums. I think he is still sponsored
	by Premier. I can't say enough about how talented this guy is, his
	bag of tricks never became empty. Once I thought I'd seen everything,
	he played something else that made me cringe. Man, awesome talent,
	a veritable drum lesson for almost 90 minutes. Amazing. Colossal...

	Dee's band was pretty good too, I heard some pretty serious guitar
	solos coming off the stage, no big ego posing, just some serious
	playing. The bassist was mostly a backbone player, no solos, no real
	heavy harmonizing, but then again, this was Widowmaker, not a jury
	exam at Berklee. Dee was himself, messing with audience in ways I
	haven't seen at that club. One dude was standing on a stool, getting
	in the way of spotlight. Dee had some words for him, he gave Dee
	the birdie, and Dee said "Oh my Lord I can't go on, some ***hole just
	gave me the finger! Well f*** y**!!!!!!!!!!!" He then wailed on about
	his friends in the front row, the crowd went nuts, the band ripped
	into the next song, very entertaining. All in all, they played three
	songs from 'Sister, "Shoot 'em down", "I Wanna Rock", and of course
	the first song that Dee ever wrote, "Under the Blade". Their last
	song of the night. The crowd absolutely loved them...

	After the night was over, everybody shuffled out, except for the
	warmup acts, the crew, the club personnel, a few hangers on... I was
	getting ready to load the drums out, when I saw Joe hangin' between
	the stage and the bar. Dee was nowhere in sight, but Joe was busily
	chatting. I went into the dressing room, grabbed the 8x10 glossy of
	WidowMaker & a magic marker, and went out to find Joe. I walked up
	behind him, tapped him on the shoulder saying "Joe, I hate to be a
	pest, but could you...", he grabbed the promo pic, promptly signed
	his name over his head, turned and smiled. I said, "You know, the
	first time I ever saw you was with Rush at the Nassau Coliseum". He
	said "Good Rats?", I said "You got it! man, you're a great player".
	He smiled, said thanks, shook my hand. I smiled, said thanks, shook
	his hand.

	Man, as long as Dee keeps players like that in his band, he will be
	going a long, long way...

	To quote Dee, "Widowf******Maker, and don't you ever forget it!"...

							Regards, Face
984.9SALEM::SCALZOHelpWed Dec 22 1993 10:454
    I just [put Twisted tape in my truck yesterday...Under the
    Blade.....Hadn't listened to that in years....Excellant!
    
    Jeff
984.10BUSY::FISED::SLABOUNTYI smell T-R-O-U-B-L-ESat Oct 08 1994 12:554
    
    	New album due out on Tuesday, 10/11.
    
    							GTI
984.11BUSY::FISED::SLABOUNTYI smell T-R-O-U-B-L-EWed Oct 12 1994 10:428
    
    	I checked 2 Strawberries in the area and neither had the new
    	album.
    
    	Not sure why I keep going back to the one in Westboro, since
    	I'd bet they're probably the worst store of the chain.
    
    							GTI