Conference napalm::heavy_metal

       
    >  Come on there must be someone who likes these guys...
    
    
       There's no point in asking you'll get no reply......
        
    
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      What the heck do you want?
       A red carpet???
    
      Tell me if you like the band
      Tell me what you like about the band
       Do you have any boot-legs???
       Do you think there were any bands influenced by them???
    
     I dont know.By the sound of it there doesnt seem to be any Hard-core
    or
    Punks in this file...
    
         If there are be heard then whats your favorite band.
     The Dead Kennedys
     The Germs
         Black Flag or BioHazard, circle jerks, G.G.Allien and the scum
    Fu*ks, Happy Flowers, Dirty Rotten Imbasels,
     The list goes on answer on the Hard-Core file...
    
        Help me out here people,REPLY !!!
    
      See Ya:Pete
    
    

    
    wouldnt this stuff fall into the radio_radio conference?
    
    to me, these type bands are noise :')
    
    though i do like agnostic front and dri (crossover anyway)
    

    I like the Pistols -- did in 77, do now!
    
    
    'cept poor Johnny don't have no Berlin wall to go under now, does he?

    Love them. One of the best rock n roll bands ever. Hard to 
    believe they only lasted 18 months (Once Lydon left it was'nt
    the Pistols).
    
    Don't have any bootlegs but there's a few available in the 
    stores in the UK. 
    
    barry.

    I like/love the Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedys, Dead Milkmen and a others
    that kinda fit into the category!
                                     Rat

    According to a mate of mine,(who wuz a punk in 1977 in Birmingham
    with the infamous band Out of Order who,er,supported G.B.H a few times)
    the song Bodies is a true song about a girl called Pauline. She did 
    literally wonder around with an abortion in a box.
    
    No doubt she was a "bloody disgrace" n`all.
    
    
    
    
    
    

    Roolin tune

    The Almighty do a cover of Bodies and a bloody good cover it is too!!
    
    
    ......as for the pistols....I loved 'em,an excellant band!
    
    
    
                                                  staynz

    
    Rumours are flying that the Sex Pistols are to reform
    with original bass player Glen Matlock.
    
    Also a one off gig at Glasgow's SECC (I prefer the Barrowlands
    myself).
    
    Anyone heard anything?
    
    
    paul
    
    
    
    p.s. check out the Scottish Sex Pistols!

    I doubt they`ll reform,`cos Steve Jones is still facing criminal
    charges in this country. 
    
    Mebbe if the compilation lp Kiss This had done mega (like the Madness
    and Abba ones),but i think it sold pretty average,really.
    

    The last I heard there were threats of law suits from Matlock aimed
    at either the record company or even the former band members
    themselves. Quite why I don't know. And just before X-mas Lydon was 
    interviewed on British radio and crushed rumours with his usual mocking 
    retort concerning reports that he'd been offerred a million to reform 
    the group.
     
    

    Re.10
    
    I heard a rumour like that last year when they were supposed to be
    playing the SECC in October but nothing came of it.I would prefer the
    Barras myself as it would be pretty wild where the SECC is a pile of
    unacoustical shite!!
    
                                              staynz

    The main reason that Glen Matlock wasn't very happy with the Kiss This
    repackage was because the video of the single 'Anarchy in the UK' when
    it was re-released last year included three times as many shots of Sid
    Vicious in the bass player role as himself, even though for most of the
    Sex Pistols short life, Matlock was the bassist. He also co-wrote
    almost all of their songs.
    
    He was pretty pissed off, and I can see his point. Sid came in and took
    all the headlines (mainly for aledgedly murdering his girlfriend and
    then committing suicide), while all Glen could do was form The Rich
    Kids with one Midge Ure. No comparrison really!
    
    Ian

    As PIL have now been dropped from their label (due no doubt to their
    diabolical output since ALBUM) he should have some time on his hands -
    but it could never be the same, eh?
    
    There are similar reformation rumours surrounding The Clash.
    
    Any Meat Puppets listeners out there?
    
    Andy
    

    Yes,i`m a BIG Meat Puppets fan.
    
    Mirage,Heuvos,Forbidden Places,Under the Sun. Excellent!
    

    Have you heard the early stuff? (Hardcore type stuff)
    
    And do you know whether or not there's anything else in the pipeline?
    Also, where do I go for The Replacements?  Can't find anything on 'em
    here or in Radio Radio, surprising really what with all the US input...
    
    And there's no Thin White Rope, either...
    And not even a DECENT Clash file...
    
    What is it with DEC??
    
    
    

    I thought there was a Replacements note in RADIO_RADIO.  These guys
    ripped in their early days.  The later albums are pretty mellow though. 
    All the old stuff that they did on SST is great!  Even though it's a
    little calmer, "Pleased To Meet Me" is one of my favorite albums of all
    time!!
    
    Greg

    Yeah, the note on the Replacements in Radio_Radio is 189.
    
    gh

    THANKIN' YOU - I'll be straight in there - I've been trying for 3 years
    to get "Sorry Ma..." on CD in the UK - one of THE classic post-punk
    albums - I also thought "Pleased to Meet Me" was superb, but it was the
    last one I bought...Paul Westerberg got an award, I believe, in Rolling
    Stone mag for best songwriter of 1990...so I take it they're much more
    popular over there than in the land of your forefathers..?
    
    Anyway, finally got my CD as they just started reissuing over
    here...punk with guitar solos...scary concept!
    
    Andy

    I *love* "Sorry Ma...", that's a KILLER album!!!  It was the first
    Replacements one I got.  I'd love to get it on CD now, I only have a
    cassette copy that's been played tooooo many times!
    
    gh

    The Dumpster Bunnies are dropping a few Go-Go's tunes to learn some
    Pistols -- "Bodies" is a definite, others are being considered!
    

    Riiiiight...
    
    I can just see it "I wanna beeeeeeee the BEAT!"

Anyone actually bought Kiss This yet?  I got it a while ago; the
compilation is pretty comprehensive, it contains most of their
decent tracks (although Who Killed Bambi and Friggin in the Rigging
are missing).  The "bonus" Live CD is really a bloody awful recording
though.

Chris.

    The Pistols career after Sid died is pretty embarrasing IMHO. Sure,
    "Who Killed Bambi" and "Friggin" might have had the chuckle factor
    at the time but in retrospect they pale in comparison to the earlier
    stuff. I think it's Jon Savage who summed up "Friggin" by calling 
    it a rugby song. 
    
    barry. 

    Who Killed Bambi wasn't really the Pistols at all, though, was it?
    Tenpole Tudor was guilty on that count.
    
    Andy

    And a D@MN fine song it is....!
    
    Bonzo

    I thought it was the lead singer wiv the rest of the Pistols. Eddie
    Tudor i think his name was. Er,though i could well be wrong.
    

    No, you could well be right...wasn't the Swindle film crap, though?!
    
    Anyone see Sounds of the 70s t'other week when all us old punks got
    nostalgic (or not, as the case may be) ?
    
    Thought it was good footage of the Clash, some of the best I've seen -
    there's surprisingly little decent stuff of them except a few clips in
    Rude Boy......the only other ones I think still stand up today were the
    Stranglers, whatever yr viewpoint on the 'punk purist' (ha!) argument
    about their origins - great stuff.
    Buzzcocks were bloody awful, tho...
    
    

    Yes,i saw that. Not the best Buzzcocks song,coming from their Love
    Bites (i think) album. 
    
    I thought X-Ray Spex,The Undertones and Siouxsie and the Banshees were
    excellent. Oh,and Joy Division. Fab stuff.
    
    Eeeh,Rude Boy. Wot a great film that is. 
    
    Check out sounds of the 70`s this week - it`s got the Specials,Madness,
    Kraftwerk and a load of other really good bands (the names of which
    escape me right now).
    

    Can't say I was a big fan of the stuff that came after about '79...by
    that time I discovered the Subhumans, and all the SST label stuff from
    the states (Husker Du, Meat Puppets, Bad Brains etc) - incidentally,
    SST stuff is currently being reissued on CD, as are the Replacements,
    another fine band...
    
    Buzzcocks reformed and toured a year or two ago - and I think Stiff
    Little Fingers are still a strong live act, but apart from that,
    there's nowt but nostalgia, am I right?
    
    (Oh, and the possibility of the eventual release of Don Letts' REAL
    Clash movie - I hear this is in the pipeline at last?)
    
    
    

>    incidentally, SST stuff is currently being reissued on CD, as are the
>    Replacements, another fine band...                                   
    
    That's cool, I'll have to keep my eyes open for some of 'em.  Weren't
    all the early Replacements albums on SST as well?
    
    Greg (who'd love to get "Sorry Ma..." on CD, I've worn my tape out)

    No, the Reps early stuff was on Twin Tone, I think.  Then they went to
    WEA or somesuch major...in the UK they're just being reissued, but I
    bought my copy of 'Sorry..." on import from the US so you should have
    no problem finding it over there.
    
    Andy

    forgot to mention, PiL have been recording again and are on the verge
    of a new deal - the press rumour is that the deal would incorporate a
    clause making Lydon reform the original Pistols for a tour and LP, but
    this sounds HIGHLY unlikely to me.  
    
    And does anyone actually WANT to see them today ?  
    
    Andy

>    No, the Reps early stuff was on Twin Tone, I think.  Then they went to
>    WEA or somesuch major...in the UK they're just being reissued, but I
>    bought my copy of 'Sorry..." on import from the US so you should have
>    no problem finding it over there.
    
    And right you are, Andy!  I just saw what appeared to be *all* the
    Replacement's TwinTone albums on CD in a store last night.  I didn't
    get 'em 'cause I was buying a couple of other things and didn't have
    much money.  But it's nice to know they're available!
    
    Greg

    I just got 'Tim' again, and it still sounds as good as ever.
    
    The soundtrack Westerberg was involved in is apparently for the film
    'Singles', a grunge thing.

    Sex Pistols forever,man
    
    Can anyone tell me if ' Sid and Nancy ' was acurate? I know that movies
    usually strech the truth or dream up stuff to make it more interesting
    but from what I know and read it was pretty close.
    
    Seen " History of Rock & Roll" the punk years on Muchmusic a few weeks
    back and the remaining Pistols minus Matlock were interviewed. They are
    looking too old for any reunion.
    
    Back in note .8 it said that ' Bodies ' was a true song about a girl
    carrying an abortion around in a box. I find it quite hard to fathom.
    
    Anyways if anyone still reads this notefile I'm interested in feedback.
    
    Daz

    Love the Pistols. Grew up on 'em....ah the memories....
    
    -kev

    Pistols rule!

    
    I like 'em too!I remember listening to "friggin' in the riggin' " on my
    cousins stereo and having to listen to it with the volume dial set at
    0.5...not even 1 incase my aunt heard! 8)
    
    Old punk's better than this new stuff thats been played a lot
    nowadays!@
    
    
    						ian vicious

    Ahhh,Friggin' in the Riggin'. That and Bodies. Try and top that!
    
    -kev

    I personally think Sid's 'My Way' was pretty cool.
    
    Dave

    
    A friend of mine told me that they announced a 'reunion' of the
    original band on our local radio station last night.
    Rotten-Jones-Cook-Matlock.
    
    Has anyone else heard about this??
    
    First the Clash and now the Pistols. Who's next? the Damned?
    
    Dave
    

    
    the Damned never actually broke up!Only Capt.Sensible left.
    
    
    
    						Ian

    
    Yes, I heard this on AAF this morning...
    
    SueJ

    the Clash never actually got back together, they talked about it but
    for "artistic" reasons they decided not to.
    Peter

    
    artistic reasons...ie,they hate each other and realised that 15 minutes
    in their first meeting! 8)
    
    
    						ian

    too bad, I loved the clash!!
    
    Pistols would rool.

    
    I don't know if I can picture Johnny Rotten singing God Save the Queen
    nowadays.
    It's not without it's charm, but their ideals must've change since 1979
    when they had no money and sang about how the rich are scum....
    
    Should be interesting to see/hear.
    
    Dave

    She still "ain't no human being", so what's changed?

  >>It's not without it's charm, but their ideals must've change since 1979
 >>  when they had no money and sang about how the rich are scum....
   

	While I agree they, (Johhny Lydon) are much richer, I'm not so sure
	about the other three.  (And I know Sid isn't ...SIC), I don't think 
	the ideals of they (JL) have changed.  He's still the most cynical and
	sarcastic person on the face of the earth...and I like that I may add
	
	/Cap'n Quad  

    
    the other 3 are broke!
    
    						Ian

    You mean that they're getting back together for money??
    
    No.... it can't be. I'm sure the boys want to hang out with Johnny
    Rotten again. 
    
    I wonder if their tour through the states will last longer than their
    only other one.....
    
    Dave

Fantastic news, the Sex Pistols have reformed to do a tour of Europe, 
Far East and and the States.  It's the original line up of John Lydon, Steve
Jones, Glen Matlock (original bassist before Sid) and Paul Cook and they'll
thrash out punk favourites from the 1977 album Never mind the bollocks, here's
the Sex Pistols.

Rotten says....

On their fued which barred previous reunions:
'We don't see eye to eye but we have a common interest - your money.'  'It 
is highly likely that we will just beat the crap out of each other in the 
first three seconds of the show.'

On Sid Vicious:
'I was going to put a funeral urn on the table in this place but unfortunately
his ashes were blown all over HEathrow Airport some time ago.  I would have
needed a Hoover.  But this is the original Pistols - Sid was nothing more than
a coat hanger to fill an empty space on stage.'

On the monarchy:
'We are not trying to bring it down anymore.  Our very good fifth member, Lady
Di, is doind an excellent job.  We offered to do a benefit for her because she 
needs the cash.'

On the money:
'If you want to complain about people grabbing money, look at all the trashy
little pop stars of today.  Perhaps this is daylight robbery but who cares?'

On being seen as old farts:
'I've enough old farts to spread over you lot if you don't shut your mouth.'
'Like a fine wine I've matured with age.  We love our beer nellies and you will
too.'

On plans for the Buzzcocks to support them:
'Some geriatrics will perform before us but if you really want to enjoy 
yourself, come late.'

On punks' habit of spitting at bands:
'I never appreciated it.  Spit this time and I'll retaliate more than in kind.'

On playing Top of the Pops:
'We'll never perform on that show - it's so bad.  But if they paid us, who 
knows?'

On rehearsals:
'We won't bother.  You know these songs as well as we do.  I bet you play them
better as well.'

On their ageing fans:
'I'm worried about the geriatrics that'll turn up.  I hope it rains and they
get their wheelchairs stuck in the mud.'

    First a KIZZ reunion and now a PISTOLS reunion?

    
    look for a US tour later this summer!It was announced on the telly on
    monday.I caught part of the interview with the band....Johnny was in
    fine form.
    
    
    					Ian