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	I heard his new song on AAF!!  It rocks!!!!!!!

	VERY good in my opinion!!!!

	Something like 'You're invited to the party, but you friend can't come'


	AWESOME!!!!!     What do you thing Steveyfluff...



							-Seth

    I don't know when they "official" debut of the vid is, but I saw it
    Monday night on MTV.  Music was pretty good, but I thought the lyrics
    were kinda cheezy (like "Don't Go Away Mad...").
    
    gh

    
    His race car is #69. Gotta love it.

    
    
    Ya, he's been racing alot.. I guess his last race ended when he 
    hit the wall.. I know he has another race scheduled soon though...
    
    
    JW-

I heard the song this morning...
Thought it was pretty happenin' !!!

jc (Hurray for Vince)

    
    
    I saw the new Vince Neil video this weekend.  IMO, as far as the
    physically appealing part of it goes, it was totally gross.  I think
    Vince looks real yucky.  His face looked bloated and old.  He was
    barefoot, wearing fishnet spandexy pants, and a button up baseball
    shirt.  (yes, for real)  He looked maybe softish-overweightish.  He was
    kind of un-hyper.  I couldn't tell who the rest of the band was, the
    camera wasn't on them long enough.  I thought that maybe for a second
    Nuno was playing guitar but I coulda been hallucinating.
    
    I though the song was fair lyrical-wise, and pretty roolin music wise.
    
    I don't think his spirit was the same without MC.  I wish they would
    get back together!
    
    
    Goddess F.

    Agreed Goddess! (I can't believe *I* said that) 8) x 1000
    
     Vince's new song is really cool...It caught me off guard.
    I didn't expect his material to be quite that good seeing how Nikki
    wrote most of the old material.
    Greg:The lyrics are firmly tongue in cheek and are funny.
       From what I heard all the guys from the Damn Yankees except Ted 
    wrote and recorded with Vince. They're not gonna tour with him since
    they have the awesome band themselves.  
    
                     Gotta love it....
     Frizkid
    

    When I saw it I thought it was some fat chick ... 8^)
    
    He's had it ...
    
    
    Jerry

    
    
    I like the song.. It's on right now.. :')

    He still has plenty of life in him....
    
    Man...People bitch because he's too pretty now they bitch because he's
    too ugly. Give the guy a break...He a legend in my mind.
    
                Frizkid
    

    Vince Neil is the epitomy of the whole LA rocker type (to me
    anyway).He`s a smart enough bloke in my mind,and inspired a million
    others.
    

    
     And either way this song blows away anything MC have done in years.
    IMO.
              mike
    

    I like it. Ain't seen the vid though.
    
    Agreed about it being better than the MC recent stuff. 

    Yeah,the song will be on the"Encino Man"sound track..
    Saw the Vid lasted nite.Good song and Vid,but.....
    Niel...Buddy...Change yer pants,man!!!!!
    
         Crazy_men_ain'ts_posta_wear_those_things_Al!

    
    Oh, one other thing, I don't think he looked bloated OR old! He looked
    good, but I agree with Al, the pants gotta go!

    
    
    	I haven't seen the video yet myself but I'll agree.. .hehheh..
    	the pants gotta go Vincie.. (; (; hehheh
    
    	But I *did* finally hear the song.....way coolies!! (8
    
    	tigg~~~

    I also FINALLY heard this song...I like it!!  Much better than the
    latter Crue stuff!

    How come I never heard of it? He already have a new album out?
    What's his band's name or he just used his own name for the band?
  
    KL

    
        I think he is running way under par.  He is EXTREMEly talented and
      his voice kicks *ss but the lyrics are amateur material.  'You're
      invited but your friend can't come' ...  What ever happened to music
      from the heart???  I'm sure all the 13 yr olds will love it.  
    
    
       Sell Sell Sell    ($$$ for nothing)
    
    
    Gun

    
    re: .23
    
    This song is off of a movie soundtrack. It's unclear if he's done
    an album, but I doubt it. Maybe after the racing circuit is over.

    I do like Nikki's lyrics better...They paint great images.
       Give Vince a break though...It's his first song without some people 
    he's been with a LONG time. PLus it's for a PAULY SHORE movie
    it can't be TOO serious!
    
                Frizkid
    
     

    I heard it yesterday.......cool tune
    
    
    Bob

    Friz--SG's singer Kicks VN's *ss...Vince is cool, but he doesnt sing
    with any bottom end POWER. Remember I said "Its cool", that doesnt
    mean I like it...I like the older Motley stuff much better!
    
    Bob_who's_branded_for_life_for_liking_1_Seattle_Band!!
    
    :)

    I'm getting to liking this song more and more...cool guitar riff!
    Still don't like the guitar solos, tho.

    You ain't missed nothin' rob. ;)  
    
    The song is lame..."You're invited but your friend can't come"  How
    stupid...Couldn't he think of anything better to sing about...something
    with meaning and depth and stuff like that.  Get real. 
    
    Also, the poor guy looks like he had a sex change!  Sad.
    
    Ready, 1-2-3:
    
    			Get some real pants, Vincent!  
    
    'pril  8)

    clothing aside.......;')...i think he's finally starting to look
    masculine instead of like an anorexic pre-pubescent girl......./k
    

    April.....I thought you were the one looking forward to his
    solo project!!! 
    Seems we both went backwards of what we thought was going to happen.
    
           Frizkid..Who likes the new song
    

    The exact opposite Friz...I'm anxious to hear the new Crue... Vince
    Neil can go take a flying leap IMO.  He's washed up.  Not only that but
    he SUX!  ;)

    
    	On todays Rockumentry on MTV, it was funny to listen the band say
    that if ever one of the guys left the band that the Crue would exist no
    more and that playing or singing with anyone else would be stupid.
    
    	Tell that to Vince now...
    
    B.A.

    The lastest I've heard on Vince:
    He's been talking to Phil Sassoun(sp) and Warren DeMartini for his
    band.  A drummer is still unknown although the drummer in the video is
    Vicki Fox from Enuff's Enuff. 
            Frizkid
    

    Did anyone see the Mtv Movie Awards show last night?
    
     Well..If ya didn't I've got a curve ball for ya.
    
     I SAW STEVE STEVENS playing with Vince!!! It was great...
    What happened to Warren? Is he ever gonna join another band?
    What happened to Micheal Monroe? Where is he?  Dead,Jail or Rock and
    Roll?  8)
    
           Friz
    p.s. Steve Stevens used a little toy ray gun for one of his solos.
    He shot it off right over the pick-ups and it was funny/cool.
    

    
     Yea, I did happen to be channel surfing when that caught my eye.
    I thought that was Steve Stevens. A way jammin live version of 'Your
    Invited' The drummer was great, man he tore up those drums!
                                                                 mike

    Is was Vicki Foxx from Enuff's Enuff...Weird huh?
    
             Frizkid
    

    I saw the Vince Neil video on Euro MTV.
    
    Not a bad song,but boy does he look lardy in those tights.
    

    
    re: Warren. The guy is basically a shit guitar player and has offered
    nothing to the evolvment of the guitar. 
    
    But then, thats just my opinion.

    I saw that song on that MTV movie awards show too.  Jammin version of
    the song!  I loved Steve Stevens (always have)!  The cheezy words still
    grate on me, but it cooked!
    
    gh

    
    I love the band! Motley Spew eat your heart out!

    Greg:Did ya dig when he put the toy ray gun up against the pick-ups?
    
          Friz...Who thought that was soooo cool!!
    

    I always liked Steve's ray-gun effect (which btw is not made by the toy
    ray gun, but by a delay in his effects rack...).  I thought he overused
    it a little on the Vince Neil song that night though...
    
    gh

    I heard a blurb on the radio this am about the annoucement for Vince
    Neil's BAND.  It was on when my alarm clock radio went off, and I
    was still in a comatic state, and didn't catch any names other than
    that they were announcing them...anyone hear whos in his new band
    officially?!?

    I heard the song last week,it was ok,pretty much the same as a lot of
    stuff coming from the US.
    
    
                                                     Staynz

    What's that suppose to mean you blithering Irishman? 8)
    
       All the stuff coming out of the U.S. is probably the best...IMNSHO.
    
              Friz
    

    I'm Scottish,ya knob-end!!
    
      what I meant was...............it's bollocks!
    
    
    
     hahahaha!...nah,what I meant was it's very much the same as alot of
    stuff(ie cheesey lyrics and video)I love his tights.............not!
    And what a lardy git he's becoming!
    
                                          Staynz        

    Well, Ithink the Vince Neil band truly sucks.
    
    Vince was never much of a musician.
    
    Now he has gone beyond just a crappy musician, now he has entered the
    depths of being a complete CHEESE.
    
    The new songs all suck.
    
    Vince should go into business doing ladies underwear/lingerie
    commercials. After all that is how his taste in clothing leans!

    
    BTW-Steve Stevens has joined Vince Neil's band which would make all of
    Carcass look like a bunch of three year olds.
    
                Friz
    

    What happened to the Steve Stevens/Michael Monroe project??
    

    Ken: HA!HA! Too FUNNY!
    
    Buck:If you had a choice of MM or Vince what would you take?
     Vince has more marketing potenial and should be paying just a WEE
    bit more.  Plus: It's better to be working than NOT working.
    
    Mike: Thanks Mike...
    
             Friz
    

    MM ... in a heartbeat!!
    
    Right, Hot Kitty?

    Why? Professionally speaking that would be the wrong move.
    
              Friz
    

    It definately would be the wrong move.  Vince Neil is about 20 times
    more popular than MM, like it or not.  Not to mention the fact that
    MM's antics make Vince Neil look like Mr. America!
    
    Can you say flamer?

    Flamer or not, MM is TONS cooler than VN will ever be.  Better singer,
    too!

    Hey, anybody hear that Vince is suing Motely Crue to get his job back?
    Read it in the paper Sat.  I prefer Motley with Neil but would you
    really want to work with people that you had to sue to do so?
                                                                 Rat

    -1
    
    I didn't read that, BUT I did read that Vince is sueing Motley re: a
    contract they had which said "each member will receive 1/4 of all
    earnings made under the name Motley Crue".  Vince wants the band members
    to uphold that contract, which has his name on the 1/4 of all earnings
    part, even though he's not in the band anymore, and the band is going
    "like if?".  I think Vince will win, actually.  A contract is a
    contract ... legal and binding on both sides, doncha know.
    

    Hahaha!  Too funny!  That's pathetic!
    
    I thought he had a new band with Steve Stevens and some others and were
    recording?  Guess it's not workin out, huh?  
    
    ...either that or he needs to raise capitol for the venture!
    
    gh

    
    re:  93
    
    yeah - he does have a new band with steve stevens, and via mtv they 
    are recording (or will be soon)... i doubt if he needs to raise any
    captiol for the project... he just wants what is rightfully his *if*
    in fact that is in contract... wouldn't you...?  what if he flops and
    the new crue continues to rule (although doubtful imho)...  imagine if	
    david lee roth woulda had something like that with van halen...he would
    still be sitting pretty... with or without his albums...
    
    just my blah_blah....
    
    /brian

    Well it had said that he was also suing 'cuz they had said he quit and
    he's claiming that they basically fired him 'cuz they wouldn't let him
    rehearse or play with them, or something like that.
                                                      Rat

    
    
    now what happens when motley adds a new singer?  how will everybody
    then get 1/4 of all earnings - unless of course they change their name.
    
    or they could probably keep the name and just change something about it
    to make it different from the contract.  ie remove or add the umlats
    (sp?) from the o and u.
    
    

    
    Or they could just call themselves, The Crue
    
    
    

    FWIW-Hollywood Records has released John(From the Scream) from his
    contract as long as he's does a solo album for them.
    He has joined Motley Crue but I'm not sure about contracts and stuff
    with him binding to the Crue?
    
     This should be interesting....
    
     Friz
    

>    -< GO VINCE! >-
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    I'd rather go home to Vince's house than yours bud! 8P
    
         Friz
    

    Yeah like Vince would let you in...
    
    

    Ok, I heard more info on the Vince Neil lawsuit....... He wants either
    five millon bucks or reinstated as lead singer of the band and yes him
    and his new band's album is due to be released next month!
                                                              Rat

    HE's due to start recording next month..
    
     Friz
    

    
    
    He's already started recording...
    
    Whit_

    
    
    
    I'm doing the drums track next week since Vicki Foxx is still held by
    contract.  
    
     Friz
    

    OH,Oh....Friz has Temporarlily slipped out of Reality again..
    
                  Crazy_I_Know_The_Feelin_Al

    let em do the tracks.....he enjoys that pose stuff.
    
    :)

    Yeah, it'd be cool to work with Steve Stevens, long as Vince wasn't
    gonna be around.
    
    gh

    What's wrong with Vince being there? I percieve Vince as beeing very
    laidback and cool about thing. I guess I'll find out in my sessions.
    
          Friz
    

    
    
     Well for what its worth, I heard that the band was recording a new
    album, same line up of people that played on Vince's last song (you'
    re Invited...) and that its release date is Feb. A year later from
    the day he was fired from MC.
    
                                    mike
    

    I heard a new song from old Vinnie last week.  It sounded pretty good,
    but the lyrics were total pap.  Horrid in that respect.  The sound was
    very similar to the later Crue stuff that I'd heard, real pop sounding,
    but still had a good beat to it.
    
    gh

    Kinda like "You're invited..."
    
    Great song.. but the lyrics are pretty stupid.
    
    I'd definitely bet that it's way better than the next
    Crue slop.
    
    /Mike...ex Crue fan

    
    i heard most of this album last night and i didnt think it was bad. 
    certainly the best thing he's done since shout at the devil.
    

    I couldn't get into it. After the 1,000 bar solo on the first song I
    sort of dozed off.
    
    -Tony

    
    
    
    Tony, you're deaf... ;')
    
    It's a great CD, definetly the best since SATD.. 
    
    Whitpose-

    
    Naaaaaa..... Not a patch on Dr Feelgood 8)

    New Vince is probably the best thing I've heard in a long time
    his new disc, doesn't leave my cd player.
    Word on new Motley; Till Death Does Us Part....Pretty Ironic.
    

    Forgot to ask, anyone have Motley-Vince imports, bootlegs?
    I have tons, available for swaps. I'm a huge fan.
    
    Vince plays in Toronto, at RPMs, on Oct. 30/93.
    Looking forword big time............
    
    see ya  Bobby T.
    

    Vince Neil will be playing at Axis the beginning of November.  Probably
    Nov. 3rd....
    
    :), danielle

    Where, is Axis, is this a Boston Club? 
    
    Gettin' REAL excited, for Oct. 30, in T.O.
    Anyone have OLD Motley Bootlegs?
    I have; 3 live videos, 1 1984--Quebec
                           2 1987--Iowa
                           3 1989--New Jersey
    About 10 - 20 Live cassettes
    
    Import cd's, picture disc's, trading cards, back stage pass FEELGOOD
    2 Mick Mars pic's FEELGOOD, Tommy's Drumstick FEELGOOD and I even
    have the Theatre Of Pain Masks, tattooed on my shoulder. 
    
    I'm interested, in getting more, trading ( I'll give out copies
    of the stuff in return for other Motley-Vince stuff.)
    
    TOTAL CRUESTER BUT POSSIBLY NOW; TOTAL VINSTER!!!

    
    
    I was a big Crue head years ago.. have a few lp's of live stuff.. one
    of them is from a live show at some club in LA.. Funny hearing Vince
    say "We're gonna play a song that's never been played before... It's
    called Shout at the Devil!". Not bad quality for a record.. 
    
    Whit-

    Whit;
    Sounds super cool, could I get a copy? I'll pay shipping, or could
    send you a copy of some of my imports???
    
    Thanks BOB.
    

    
    
    Sure, we could set something up.. I'll talk to you offline....
    
    Whit-

    Some pretty BIZARRE, comments there.  Whit, how do we get in touch
    as I'm new to theses files, and I'm in Ottawa. Should I print my
    address, and then you could do the same?
    
    Suppose to be getting 5 pretty hot new CRUE bootlegs, in the next
    couple of days. Friend of a Friend knows some guy who has these,
    apparently one of the Final live shows, and hopefully some more
    demos.... Can't Wait...
    
    Bob.
    
    other than 

    WHIT; I received our mail message, but I don't know how to send
    you message. 
    
    Like I said earlier, I have; lots of CRUE imports ranging from live
    concert in Italy, opening for AC DC,(SHOUT) Germany, Russia, Sweden
    about 10 all over the states, Toronto, Ottawa.....
    
    I have the 3 bought videos, Uncensored, Feelgood the videos, Decade
    of Decadence, and 3 live videos, Shout tour- 84 Quebec
    Girls tour-87  Iowa,  Feelgood tour-89 New Jersey.
    
    Hopefully you can get in touch and we can set something up.
    Later- Bob.

    I read in a magazine, Steve Stevens has returned to Billy Idol,
    and the other members are free to look for other oppurtunities,
    is there any truth to this...Please say NO...
    
    Oddly enough in the same mag, Metal Edge, they had readers choice
    awards, and Vince had rather respectable results, coming in the
    top ten of most awards...
    
    New Motley's growing on me but I'm still a loyal Vince supporter
    
    Bob

    
    
    I tend to lean toward Vince's side in this whole Motley Crue thing. 
    BUT, I prefer the new Motley over Vince's stuff... Vince is still in
    his bubble gum days. 
    
    Whit-

    
    
      As long as it is Vince doing the singing, he can make any band sound
    cool. He dont need em'. I saw him on lifestyles of the rich and
    flatulent. He has one serious abode! right on the beach! He has T.V's
    that raise up out of the floor, computer controlled blinds, ect. That's
    the kind of house I need. (and deserve)
    
                             
                                                *B*

    When was that on...Did anyone tape it...I'd love to see it...
    
    But has anyone heard about Vince and his band, going their own ways...
    
    Hope Vince doesn't do like Roth and get new members for every album,
    but you are right when you say Vince doesn't need the guys from
    Motley.
    
    As for his bubble-gum rock, Vince said he does songs like that for
    people to enjoy, and get away from all the serious sh!t in really
    life...He doesn't want to get up on his soap box and preach, he
    just wants to rock...
    
    I think he's working on new songs, with the other guitarist from
    his band, Dave something, but like I said the other members are
    free to pursue any oppurtunities...
    
    Bob

    
    
      I liked how the rest of Muttley said how $h||ty that Vince was and how
    he just would not do the songs they wanted. A while back on one of
    their video's Nikki said that Vince was the perfect lead singer. I
    think Muttley crue is suffering from sour grape syndrome. 
    
    
                                                *B*

>    When was that on...Did anyone tape it...I'd love to see it...
    
    Vince is total slime!  He borrows my house for the weekend, and then
    takes that clown Robin Leech in there with a camera crew claimin it was
    HIS!  Freeloader!
    
    gh

    
    
      Can I borrow your house next?? I will leave some beer in the fridge.

>     Can I borrow your house next?? I will leave some beer in the fridge.

Don't go for this Greg, somebody made the same promise to me and
left Near Beer  %^}

Droid

    hang on Robin Leech....ISN'T THAT THE GUY WHO GETS EXCITED AND SHOUTS?
    
    
    
    					Ian

    
    
      Way to go Droid. I almost had the keys to his place! See if I invite
    you to the party.
    
    
    
                                                *B*
    

Yeah a fridge full of Miller Sharps or Zima

>>     Can I borrow your house next?? I will leave some beer in the fridge.
>
>Don't go for this Greg, somebody made the same promise to me and
>left Near Beer  %^}
    
    Haha!  Reminds me of the apartment that two of my high school friend's
    and I moved into in '84.  Another friend comes over the day after we
    moved in and says "I brought ya a housewarming present", plunks down a
    paper bag on the table.  We opened it up and there's a 6 of some
    horrible brew, like Milwalkee's Best or Red, White & Blue...one of
    those.  Completely undrinkable.  We were kind of like,
    "Um...thanks..." and he says, "You know what it's for, right?".  We
    said "Well, no." and he replied "It's so you ALWAYS have beer in the
    fridge!".  HAahhahaha!
    
    It was true, that swill was still in there when we moved out.  I will
    admit to using one can of it to clean the battery terminals on my car. 
    Worked better then I expected it to...
    
    Greg

    
    
      whatzz zee prollom wizz zzzzima?
    Its tonic water and sprite.

    
    
       MMmmmMmmMMMMMMM! Milwaukee's beast! It rates up there with
    Schaeffer!
    
    
                                                *B*

I figgered iffen I got you to leave 'good' brew, then Greg would be
so thankful he'd invite me over to drink it with him and pay my 
airfair  %^)

Could happen !

Droidasaurous

>   -< do you have any grey poop-on  >-
    
    Sorry dude, I left it in the car..
    

    Speaking of Grey Poupon...  That used to be my favorite mustard.
    Now I found a new mustard thats even better.
    
    
    
    Jack Daniels mustard!  It really exists, honest!  It has the Jack
    Daniels Old No. 7 logo on it, and it is supposedly made with JD,
    although I can't taste it in there.
    
    I don't know what supermarkets carry it, I got mine from a restaurant
    table.
    
    |KS|
    

    Have that stuff with the tee martooni lunch, eh Ken?
    
    gh

    
    
      I turn on Run-away with the rich and famous, and who do I see?
    The Vin-man. He was skiing in Squaw valley, riding in helicopters,
    hot-tubbing with many fine women, bunji jumping on top of a mountain,
    4-wheeling in a (looked like a hummer, but it cost something like 82K.)
    staying in excellent hotels, and ski-racing. (sigh) It must be nice....
    
    
    
                                                *B*

    Yeah, it was definitely a Hummer, he wasn't challenging it in the
    least.  I saw about a minute of it while passing through a room where
    it was left on.  I didn't bother turning up the sound, and I kept on
    walkin.
    
    gh

    I'll ask again, did anyone tape this...So perhaps I could see it?
    
    Bob

    
      I diddnt. 
    

    I heard that Vince was in a Jet-Ski accident recently, and was hurt,
    somewhat seriously, and the goofs from Crue were making fun of him
    when asked if they had heard about the accident, Mick said something
    like, You're Invited But I Weigh a Ton. They were pretty much being
    Knobs. Also heard Vince and Tommy were at bar, and Vince tried to
    get Tommy thrown out.
    
    I guess the accident couldn't have been too serious, as I heard
    he's working on the new album, with the same guys minus Steve Stevens
    (for now) also some outside help from quite a few people in the
    music business, artists, producers, songwriters etc. Also heard
    he's considering giving the band a name other than Vince Neil...
    
    Bobby T

>    Also heard
>    he's considering giving the band a name other than Vince Neil...
 
    It won't work, people will still figure out he's in the band.
    
    gh

    
    The Crue are total butt-holes. No wonder Steve Garry likes them so
    much. 
    
    -prc

    
    
    
    Nikki Sixx aways seemed to come across as an asshole.. sounds like
    they're acting like a bunch of babies now.. 
    
    

    
    They're mad because they're new one sold about 10 copies. 8-)

    
    
    Ya, and I liked it when they cancelled their tour saying "We wanna play
    smaller clubs to get back to our roots..". 
    
    Ya, ok...

    
    -1
    
    Oh, is it up to 10 now??

    
    
    
    Notes crash!

    Sounds like they are copying Vince, he said rather then try and
    headline a tour, he opted for opening (how ironic) for Van Halen,
    I also saw him in Toronto at a small club called RPM's. Vince did
    the right thing starting small and getting tight as musicans, Motley's
    ego's are too big, they figured they'd open for Aerosmith (who I
    saw last night in Ottawa) in Europe and then go on they're headliner,
    WRONG. I haven't even heard anything about Motley, tour or other
    wise, except the sh!tty things they've been saying about Vince,
    and that they are bummed about the record sales.
    
    Bobby T

    Someone mentioned to me that Vince now has Billy Idol's old drummer?
    Is Vik Foxx gone? I think perhaps this person got their lines mixed
    up cause Steve Steven's went back to Billy Idol, but they insisted
    it was Idol's drummer. I know Brent Woods is with Vince from Wildside,
    apparently the radio guy's message was; Vince's new album should
    be out soon, and from what he's heard its suppose to be great, and
    his general feeling was that Vince is on the way up and The Crue
    is on the way out...
    
    Bob

    From what I've seen, neither one of 'em are doing that great. 
    
    gh

    Has anyone heard anything about Vince's new Album, or any Vince/Crue
    news??

    does anyone care?

    Obviously Bob cares, or he wouldn't have asked...
    
    On the other hand, I *personally* don't care.
    
    gh

    Vince Neil confirmed reports that, the Crue had tried to get him
    back, indirectly. Vince said, why would I go back to a group that
    doesn't even have a record deal. Vince said the record company the
    Crue was with didn't want to spend another 4 and a half million
    on an album that only sold 250,000 copies (I have 2). Vince said
    the second album is recorded and will be recorded by the Duke Bros.
    while he is touring in Japan ( Where his Exposed album went platnium
    and debut at #1) This will be the Duke Bros first rock album, they
    appparently are heavy drum sound, this is the direction Vince wanted
    after going heavy guitar sound with Steve Stevens on his first album.
    
    Vince has no intentions of EVER going back with the group that stabbed
    him in the back and tried to ruin his career, he cut down Tommy
    Lee for wearing that Nazi jacket on the sleve of the new Crue album,
    which got them in trouble with the one of the executives (who happened
    to be Jewish)also claiming the fight many people saw on Hard Copy,
    Tommy was making racial slurs. 
    
    Vince's new album should be out some time in the new year, but
    unfortunately these dates usually get pushed back. And he apparently
    will be moving to Barbadoes/Bahamas for good next year and open
    his own studio for his band to come to when they record. He is tired
    of the LA BS.
    
    

    Bruce...
    
    Be sure to forward these vital Crue updates to mega-fan Greg House
    (GOES11::HOUSE) when he gets his new Internet address!!

    Riiiiiight...

    
    
    	Does anyone know if there is a new Vince Neil track, on that
    "cheesey" Van Damme movie, Street Fighter, I can remember reading
    that there might be a song on it...
    
    Bob

    
    
    	Vince's new album is due April 11th, called (for now)
    
    			PIRATE  RADIO
    
    Bob

    Did he use the same Musicians that were on The first Album??

    Everyone is the same except for Steve Stevens, who returned to Billy
    Idol. The new guitarist is Brent Woods, from Wildside.
    
    Bob

    
    
    
    OHHH MANNN..

Anyone hear that Vince is going back to Motley Crue to do another album?
I guess they all kissed and made up... 

Whit-

    
    	Yes!!
    

    
    	RIGHT ON, My Favourite band of all time. Last I heard was;
    Vince had completed his new album Pirate Radio -- due out this month,
    they were putting the finishing touches on it, while the band toured
    Japan to get the show down pat. And last I heard on the Crue was
    that, they had been recording, and had alot of material, Sixx said,
    they might release a 3 record LP, 1 with commercial type tunes,
    1 very heavy underground type, and 1 essentric sounding one (what
    ever that means) and that they had a new record label, can't remember
    the name though. 
    
    	Man that'd be great, (I know half of you couldn't give a crap)
    I always thought they'd get back, but not for a while (ie 5-10yrs)
    But I guess its been about 3-4 yrs now (wow that is pretty long)
    I hope it true about the Crue...Please any more info/confirmations
    would be appreciated....
    
    Bob

    Alan Frisby is in Heaven right about now...

    
    Vince back with da Crue....!
    
    
    
    
    
    ...isn't that special! ;^)
    
    
    
    						ian

I dunno, I didn't hear it myself. I heard it from a friend that said it was 
on the "Week in Rock" on eMTyV.  I've always been a big crue fan and hope they'd
go back to the original lineup! 


Whit

    	On Saturday, I walked into a pub to catch a hockey game, and
    right when I walked in on the TV the Crue was on Inside Edition,
    and before I could see what they were talking about, they flipped
    it to the hockey game, its been driving me nuts. I've only heard
    the rumors of them getting back together in here. Did anyone see
    what the show was about....?
    
    Bobby T

    	Anymore rumors on the Return of Vince, or if Vince's album is
    still coming out this month. I've called a couple store's here in
    Ottawa, and they know NOTHING, about Vince's new album or about
    the reunion??? Can someone help, maybe call a StrawBerries or
    something, for me...Thanks
    
    Bob

    Bob,
    
    NO ONE CARES about the Crue other than you

    
    
    Bob,
    
     Pay no attention to him...he's got doggy PMS today !
    
    :')
    
    

    
    >Bob,
    >
    >NO ONE CARES about the Crue other than you
    
    
    	Speak for yourself!!
    

    	Well, everyone can put the re-union of the Crue outta their
    minds, it was nothing more then a rumor. Vince's new album was due
    out in April, but was delayed til June 23rd, due to a title change
    and new artwork, it is now called Carved In Stone, and not Pirate
    Radio. From what I've heard this should be an excellent album, they
    said the first one didn't do to well, and that was basically because,
    Vince wanted to get it out quickly, and that the album was basically
    for himself, and not the fans, where as the new one is more for
    the fans.
    
    	He has a new girlfriend some Playboy/actress Heidi something,
    and she did one of those Playboy Video's in which Vince also appears
    in. He has quit drinking (again) and has been in the gym, no longer
    rents his mansion out to porn-company's, and has still been racing.
    
    Bob

    
    
    so who is on guitar?
    
    
    						ian

    	Brent Woods from Wildside, and Dave Marshall who was there last
    year, has left the band (don't know why) but some guy who helped
    with the album (forget his name) singing background and some guitar,
    is joining Vince on the road, to replace Marshall.
    
    Bob

    
    	After reading my last reply, it sounds like Woods had left the
    band. He hasn't only Marshall has. The guy who helped co-write alot
    of the album and sang, as well as some guitar was Marti Frederikson.
    Don't know were he came from though. Vince's new Playboy girlfriends
    name is Heidi Mark (or Marks).
    
    Bobby T

    Heidi appears in the August 95 issue,.......LUCKY MAN!!
    

    	She is HOT, the Vince Neil album will be released on Tuesday
     July 18th, not as previously stated, for tommorrow, the 23rd of
    June.
    
    Bobby T
    

    Heard from a that Vince died of unknown causes on Monday. He said foul
    play is suspected, as vince was staying with some guy named ED.
    
    OOOOPS!! That's Vince the IGUANA I'm thinking of, not Vince the
    singer!! 
    
    
     Sorry if I had any one scared there!!
    
    
     Bobby, sorry about your loss!
    Paully
    

    
    	You scared me meatball, don't do that to me...
    
    Its sad but true, my Iguana (Vince) died on the weekend, well its not
    like we were that close, he never cuddled with me, or kissed, or even
    came when I called him... So I'm not taking it too hard...
    
    Bobby T

    RE -1
    
    Woah -- I thought Seth was back on the net there for a second

    So Vince was basically like all the women in your life, right Bobby!
    No CUDDLING,No KISSING, and they don't even answer when you call!!
    
    
    What's next??? A Rottie named NIKKI?? A Boa named T-bone?? or a Catfish
    named Mick??
    
    ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW!

    That's kinda funny.
    
    Sorry Bob.

    
    	Apparently another reason for the delay in Vince's new CD Carved
    in Stone, besides the title change and new artwork, was that Vince's
    4yr old daughter was diagnoised with cancer. Skylar although is
    responding well to the medication and might/should make a full
    recovery. 
    
    	As for the rumors on the Crue-Reunion, word is Vince and Sixx
    talked, made up, but didn't consider a reunion. They just put their
    differences aside. 
    
    	Vince is hopeing to be touring by the end of July...
    
    Bobby T

    D'you think that Vince will wait to see if his album does well and then
    decide to re-join Crue?
    
    Dave

    
    Saw Vinnie and his girlie friend on American Gladiators over the
    weekend. Nice looking young lady......lousy athlete!! She got summarily
    tromped by the "TOOL TIME" girl.
    
    Vince was sitting on the sidelines watching and cheering her on. He
    could be heard over the rest of the crowd quite easily. Getting out of
    the Crue doesn't seem to have hurt him any....he's still making money
    somewhere. He must be, cause he is certainly eating well!!! Nice CHINS
    Vince.
    
    Paully
    
    
     Bobby, I tried to call you but you weren't home doughhead!!
    

He won't rejoin if he has to get one of those tattoos...

    
    	I don't think you'll see Vince re-join the Crue, maybe in 10yrs or
    something, but I don't expect one soon. 
    
    	As for the comments about Vince's weight, come on Paulley, if
    he's as fat as you claim, why is that chick still with him...I sence
    some Vince bashing from an upset Sixx-Lover...*)) Its too bad Vince
    didn't get a chance to bash in a few Gladiators, himself...I suppose
    you didn't tape it as well eh Paul??? Oh well, I'll see it somehow...
    Well, 8 daze til the release, and I've got the day booked off...Gotta
    love it...
    
    Bobby T

    
    
    	I dunno.  The Crue hasn't done squat recently. I *highly* 
    	doubt they'll even be *around* in ten years!
    

    I Assume that Vince's New_Album will Rock and Sell well.
    WE NEED THIS,Folks. To Hell with his XXX Band_Mates.They need
    A_Lesson In_Life and to be Spanked and Brought back to Life
    and Dragged off Their High_Horses.As Musicians Their doin Shite!
    
      Crazy_Some_Body_Gots_To_Slap_Em_Al

    How many more dayz Bob? We're missin' the daily updates
    
    
    Dave

    Ya Bob.......Dave can't simply minus one day, and the weekends really
    screw him up!!!
    
    Paully
    

    So Bob... how's the new album? I sure you know the entire thing by
    now...
    
    Dave

    
    		F    U    M    I   N    G ......
    
    Had, the day booked off yesterday to get the new Vince...Got up
    nice and early, drove down town (CD WareHouse) got there at 9:20am
    the store didn't open til 10:00. No problem, til it started to rain,
    (didn't have the roof on my jeep) Finally, the store opens. I went
    straight to the Vince Neil section, and I can see 2 disc's in the
    location, so I'm pumped...Both were Exposed...So i go up to the
    guy who's working, and asked if new Vince was released today, he
    punches it up on the computer, and says, "Ya" its probably still
    in the boxes out back, I'll get it for ya...Wait 10 minutes, comes
    back laughing, sorry man, they are holding it back til Aug 8th now...
    
    I'm like, WHAT, every store I asked said July 18th, one even showed
    me in writing... But the truth is, I should have known, there hasn't
    been a single released yet, and usually Radio Stations get the single
    a couple weeks before the CD is released...
    
    However, it was not all bad, I went to a bunch of CD Shops, and
    decided I'd pick-up Brent Woods, old band WildSide. I saw it in
    the first store, but not in any of the other stores I visited, so
    I returned to CD WareHouse, and picked up Under the Influence, for
    $20...Just had hear what he sounds like...I was pretty impressed,
    he is a great guitar player, and he wrote/co-wrote, most of the
    material. The singing didn't impress me much, alot like Slaughter,
    Cinderella, Quiet Riot, with a little Bullet Boys...Maybe I do like
    it??? I don't know...So it wasn't all bad, but I found out Aug.
    8th is also a Tuesday, the Tuesday after the long weekend, "Perfect"
    So I'm booking it off...
    
    Bobby T

    
    
    you took a day off to buy a cd?
    
    
    
    						ian

    
    	Not, just a CD...Vince's NEW CD...
    
    Bobby T

    >	Not, just a CD...Vince's NEW CD...
    
    an even dumber excuse, if you ask me

    
    	If you try and get the new Vince Neil CD during lunch you'll
    	probably have to wait awhile in line.
    
    	And you also run the risk that it sold out at 12:01 that morn-
    	ing.
    

     Re .211, 100% Correct...
    
    	My game plan was to get the CD, get to the beer store, get back
    home to the stereo, lawn chair, cold beers and the sprinkler, then
    learn, sing and slur the words. Come to work the next day, and
    sing the CD cover to cover for my co-workers...
    
    Bobby T

    
    >sing the CD cover to cover for my co-workers...
    
    
    	You lucked out then ... if yo would have done this you might not
    	have lived to see the end of the day.
    

    That's not true....Little Bobby has a nice voice.
    Sometimes when there's nothing to do, all the guys sit around in a
    circle and have Bobby T sing songs to them.
    If it's been a particularly stressful day, there's nothing like hearing
    Bobby sing the best of Air Supply to you.
    On Friday's he sings Kool & the Gang songs to them to get them  in the mood
    for the weekend........." Celebrate good times, come on!! "
    
    
 NOT!!!!!
    
    Paully
    

    -1
    
    PLease read the conference roolz in note 2.*  The mentioned Air Supply
    is NOT allowed!!

    SORRY DUDE!
    If it makes it any better I really had a hard time getting my fingers
    to cooperate in spelling it!!
    
    Paully
    

    
    	Its offical, Aug 8th will be the release of Vince's new CD.
    The reason it was not released on the 18th of July, was that the
    Japanese Record afiliate, didn't want to lose money on Bootlegs
    coming over early, they want a worldwide release on the 8th of Aug.
    
    	Vince's Tour however has been postponed, due to situation of
    his daughter Skylar Neil. She was dyagnoised (sp) with cancer, on
    each kidney. Treatment has nearly stop the tumer on the right kidney,
    but the left kidney (and more aggressive cancer) has spread to her
    liver. She will under go her 5th operation, apparently she almost
    died on the table during one of the operations. She also cannot
    breath on her own and requires a resperator, which also means she
    can't speak. Vince apparently is constantly by her side, and said
    he doesn't give a S#!t about anything else. He has also written
    a song for his daughter called Neverending Love, a CD single and
    Video which will be all clips of him and his daughter, in which
    the proceeds will go to childrens Cancer Research, and when he does
    go back on tour, a percentage of each show will go to that city's
    Childrens Hospital. He says he wants people to know who his daughter
    is and the video will show that and he asks that people throw in
    a prayer for his and other peoples children in the same or similar
    situations.
    
    Bobby T	
    

    Well it's that day and we are ALL anxiously awaiting Bobby T's
    (unbiased) review of the new album........
    
    
    NOT!!!!
    
    No doubt he'll be at work at 08:00 AM and on the box by 08:05, and
    that's giving him a few minutes to get the damn CD into the stereo!!
    
    PAULLY
    
    
    How will we all sleep?!?!
    
    

    Well, here it is, 22 AUG, and still NO review of the long awaited 
    (by some, not me!) Vince Neil album.
    
    WTF Bobby T.?  You get us all worked up about this stupid CD for
    MONTHS in this file, and then no review?!?!?
    
    Does it suck that bad?  No I need to ask this question??
    
    /B

    
    I don't think there will be a tour of from Vince as he's recovering
    from the death of his daughter who succumed to stomach cancer.While
    Vince has never been much of a favourite or mine I felt really bad for
    him.
      The word about the new album is its different from his usual stuff
    and pre-reports state is pretty good....but we all know it all about
    personal tastes~
    
    
    						ian
    

    
    	Well, I'm back (I was in the hospital for just over a week,
    fighting off death, and of course I won...) I was admitted the day
    the new Vince CD was to be released, but unfortunately due to the
    sickness of his daughter, who did die last Thursday due to her stomach
    cancer, the CD has still to be released. It has been a real tough
    month for Vince, but he plans to release the new CD (new release
    date is September 8th could be longer though) he also plans to release
    the song he did for Skylar, title change from "Neverending Love"
    to "Skylar's Song", as well as the home video, and all proceeds
    going to cancer research. 
    
    	The good news is that his new single "The Crawl" was played
    on the radio for the first time Monday (here in Ottawa anyways)
    and I taped it and it is amazing, great guitar, bass, drumming,
    and his vocals are as usual awesome. 
    
    	Can't really say anything else, but today is my first day back
    and once again, alls I have is another possible release date. I
    don't really know when it will be released, or when he'll start
    touring (he has stated he will tour) I mean this is one of the toughest
    times he will ever go through.
    
    Bobby T, who doesn't plan on dying in a hospital bed, but rather,
             being trampled at a Vince Neil show...*))

    Gad, he's back.........
    
    Lord help us all

    OH! Poor Bobby T!
    
    Tell us all why you went into the hospital!?!
    
    At least it would be more interesting than the rest of this garbage
    about a washed up, overweight beach bum trying to rekindle a career!
    Gotta give him credit though for trying to sell his music by playing up
    to everyones emotions. Great marketting!!
    
    Further more having spoke to one of the DJ's at said station in Ottawa,
    she stated that the song was(and I quote) "NOTHING SPECIAL". 
    Can't wait to hear it and find out who's right.... a very biased Bobby
    T, or a professional working in the industry who hears new songs come
    and go frequently......
    
    Paully

    	Well, Paula; You forgot the rest of the quote from the DJ, sorry
    we can't play it during the day because its "Too Heavy", says alot
    for your favourite DJ and radio station. And because they wouldn't
    play the new Vince I believe your second request was granted, that
    chart-topping Spandel Ballet. And what are you thinking saying Vince
    is playing up the death of his 4yr old daughter for sales, thats
    simply sick...And if anyone has to try to rekindle their careers
    its that moron Sixx, and his rat-pack. New Vince roolz. So until
    you've even heard the song, step off, cause it destroys all the
    new Crue (finally a decent bassist - Robbie Crane). 
    
    Bobby T, who might send Paula to the hospital...*))

    Well before Bobby T starts to gloat........I listened to "The Crawl"
    this morning, courtesy of Bobby T, and I must admit.......It's pretty
    good!
    
    Of course Bobby T was talking all sorts of crap about how Vince ditched
    Stevens and now has a good guitar player.......Yeah right, Steve
    Stevens is a lousy player.
    
    
    WAKE UP BOBBY!!!!
    
    
    All in all though the song is pretty good. I still can't figure out why
    the DJ says it's too heavy for daytime play?!?
    LORD I MISS KNAC!!!
    
    Paully

    Having thought about Bobby's comments on Steve Stevens I don't know why
    this should surprise me.....
    
    The man obviously wouldn't know a good player if one stepped on him.
    I did however ask him for his top three players list.....ready for this
    one???
    
    MICK MARS (YEAH RIGHT!?!)
    BRENT WOODS  (PULLLLLEASE)
    STEVE VAI ( THIS ONE I'LL AGREE WITH)
    
    
    This certainly does shed some light on Bobby's hospital stay....
    
    
    HEARING TESTS
    
    PAULLY
    

    
    	The reason Vince's new CD is being highly praised, is because
    Vince doesn't have that ego-tecno guitarist Steve Stevens. Brent
    Woods is great on the first single I've heard (The Crawl) nothing
    like Stevens' over-played machine gunning. He is OK, but definately
    not in the top five.
    
    	As for Paula, you looked pretty silly here the other day while
    I was crankin' the new Vince for ya, come on just admit it, it blows
    Crue away, and you liked it...Kinda hard to swallow your pride and
    admit you were totally wrong, again...*))
    
    	Again, the new release date is supposedly Sept. 18th. But again,
    who knows with the death and personal issues Vince is facing right
    now. 
    
    	Side note, two weeks ago, on the NFL's quarter back challenge,
    the theme music was Primal Scream...Cool...Also wonder if the death
    of Skylar, allowed Crue and Vince to bury their problems...Also
    Tommy & Pamela were lookin' good at the Tyson fight (or lack there
    of)
    
    Bobby T

    So Bob,
    Doris tells me that the new single is good.
    You'll have to play it for me on Friday.
    
    Dave

    Well, Bob played Vince's new single for me today and.......it's good.
    Actually it's very good (and I ain't saying that just cuz I know Bob)
    The whole thing reminds me of early Ratt. But then again, any band from
    L.A. will sound similar.
    
    There Bob, I told everyone, now give me my 20 bucks!!!
    
    Dave
    
    

    
    sounding like "early Ratt" is definately no compliment.
    
    
    
    							ian

    
    Who is the guitar player?
    
    

    
    
    Brent Wood...is this guy any good at all?
    
    
    							ian

    He sounded good, but that don't mean he is good....
    
    I don't know if he was in another band or just a studio musician.
    I guess we'll have to wait and see what Badabib has to say...
    
    Dave
    
    

    Brent Woods was from another LA band (go figure) called Wildside. Not
    at all a bad band, and they do have a CD or two out.
    
    Of course Davey, if you want to hear it King Bobby has it.
    
    As far as Brent's playing ability he's not that bad, BUT....he's no
    Steve Stevens. You may however get a really TAINTED opinion of this
    from Bobby.
    
    Pauly
    

    I like Brent Woods a lot as a guitar player -- he was taught by Randy
    Rhoads and George Lynch!  He has a great sound and style ... /k and I
    saw them (Wildside) open for Dream Theater and I really liked the show.

    
    	I like Steve Stevens and his "machine gun" FX.
    
    	And I like early Ratt.
    

    
    	Funny enough, right after Dave listened to it (head bobbing,
    hip swaying fist swinging) the new Vince single has gone missing...
    Coincidence ??? Oh well, the CD release date is (apparently) this
    Tuesday, Sept 12th...We'll see/hear...
    
    Bobby T

    Insinuating something Bob? Geez...why don't you exaggerate a bit...
    Yes, I agree that the Vince's new single is good, but I did NOT take
    your tape.
    
    Dave
    
    p.s. Bills finally won one today, barely tho...
    
    

    The Bills won Big! 31 to 9.
    
    
    
        Crazy_I_Have_Yer_Tape_Al   :_)

    
    	Thanks Crazy-Al, but I'll save my cash, and buy the CD tommorrow.
    I stopped into CD Warehouse today and they said tommorrow. However,
    I read the review in Metal Edge on the weekend. The CD cover is
    something like a big eye-ball, and they said it was released in
    August...They said there are a couple of hip-hop type songs, some
    real heavy and some other experimental stuff, all in all a good
    review saying Vince has covered every aspect of music which should
    make it a pretty popular CD (commercially & Financially) 
    
    Life Begins Tommorrow
    Bobby T

    Since the culprit is now known, at least admitted to it, I want a
    formal appology, Bob.
    
    Besides, if the new CD has 'hip-hop' on it, then the review should be
    moved out of this file, don't you agree?
    
    Dave
    
    p.s. Bills were down 6 at the half...that ain't winning big!
    
    

    A Foot_Ball Game Ain't Over at The_Half,Dill_Weed.
    
    Now Give Bob his Tape Back.
    
    
       Crazy_You_Purloiner_Al

    
    	Is it out yet?
    
    	Or has it been delayed again?
    

    	Yes, it has happened yet again...Tommorrow 100% for sure...
    All the Warner Bros CD releases scheduled for today have been delayed
    til tommorrow, I even tried to buy one record stores listening CD,
    but they wouldn't/couldn't sell it...This blows, especially since
    it has already been released in parts of the states...Oh well, one
    more day of antagonizing hell...I will be picking the CD up at lunch
    and will have the complete review for ya tommorrow, hold tight for
    24hrs...
    
    Bobby T

    ...oh be still my heart......./k

OOHHHH!!! The agony!!

    	Bad news, I went to the CD shop (the only one within 30 min
    of work) and they hadn't received the shipment yet...The term Phuck,
    comes to mind...I'm gonna have to pick it up on the way home tonight,
    with my review following tommorrow morning. I forgot to mention,
    huge praise on Vince's versions of 25 from 6 to 4 by Chicago, and
    an Iggy Pop song (forgot which one) and again it says be prepared
    to be thrown for a loop, when you hear Vince's heavy-groove-dance
    mix song...
    
    Bobby T

    
    	I have a feeling that Terry Kath is probably rolling in his
    	grave right now.
    
    	But I'll give it a chance.
    

    
    re a couple....
    
    if the Vince Neil album  isn't out soon,thro=w yourself in front of a
    truck and end the torment...it must be killing you!  ;^)
    
    
    							ian
    

    
    	Well??  Is it out yet?
    
    	How is it?
    
    	I stopped at the Strawberries in Westboro [motto, "We are useless
    	so don't bother coming here"] and didn't see it.
    

    	Ya its out and it roolzzzz...I willgive a more detailed evaluation
    later, but I can tell ya, my roomie and I sat up til 4:30am this
    morning crank the sh!t outta it...
    
    	Its got some scratchin' in it, but in a Beastie Boyz style with
    great heavy groovey guitar work. Brent Woods is awesome. There are
     10 tracks, the covers aren't on it though. I wonder if there are
    two different CD's, one for Canada, and the one that was released
    last month in LA. 
    
    	Skylar's Song is cool, its kind sad because the song was written
    and sung while she was still alive, and the lyrics are basically,
    you're gonna make it, everything will be ok - so its kinda sad,
    but a great song (produced by Vince) with some great pianoin'...
    
    Red-Eyed and Hung, but still pumpin' the tunes...
    Bobby T

    
    re-1
    
    you like it and gave it a positive review!Did we expect anything else?
    
    
    btw...I'm glad I don't live next door to you if you're cranking cd's at
    4am.

    GEE.....I'll bet noone expected a review like that from Booby T!
    
    I personally thought he'd tell us how lousy it was. 
    Vince could probably record himself in the loo and he'd call it
    "musical genious"
    
    Paully
    

    
    Bobby T played part of the new disc for me and I gotta admit it
    was pretty rockin'....
    Vince's style on this one is alot different from his previous 
    CD, but I for one got a kick outta it.
    
    rl

    Too_BAd The Iggy(The_True_Grand_FAther_Of_Rock)Pop Cover Isn't on the 
    American Re_Lease.I Wonder what The_Tune is??
    
    
       Crazy_I_Wanna_Be_Yer_Dogg_Al

    Paula and Doris can't both agree on the CD! What's next, dogs and cats
    living together in harmony?....
    
    Make a copy Bobby T. and leave it at Iber rd in the good hands of Roy
    and I'll take a listen....if you don't mind.
    
    Dave.

    
    	Quite good, overall.  Those expecting a new "Motley Crue" album
    	are definitely going to be disappointed.
    
    	"Breking in the Gun" starts out with a riff that could have been
    	taken right off of Alice In Chains' "Facelift".
    
    	"The Way" has a rhythm track that you'd swear was from a Renegade
    	Soundwave song.
    
    	Record scratching [in moderation, thankfully], voice-overs, good
    	guitar and vocals.
    
    	It's a keeper.  But for some reason Vince just wasn't cut out to
    	do ballads, so I wish he'd stop.  "Power ballad", yes ... so the
    	guitars and heavy drums can mask his voice.  But not the straight
    	ballads that only provide a keyboard or acoustic background.
    

 	On 1st listen, on a scale 1-10, I'd give it a 5.. I've heard alot worse, but 
	then again, I've heard alot better.. 

	No offense to Vince's daughter.. I think it was nice that he wrote a song for
	her.. but the ballad was horrible...

	I'd have to give it a few spins before I gave it a real review...


	Whit- 

    
    	After 3 or 4 listens:
    
    	Brent Woods is excellent.  No talent lost by replacing Steve
    	Stevens.
    
    	"Breaking in the Gun" is working its way into my top 5 list for
    	1995 ... not that I could rattle off a list right now, but if I
    	could then it'd be in there somewhere.  And "The Way" isn't too
    	far behind.
    

    
    	This CD kicks some major - butt...Your right Breakin' the Gun is
    awesome, The Crawl is amazing (and the first single), One Way is also
    kickin'. I for one like Skylar's song, i think its greta, same as the
    last two songs, especially the second last (the title escapes me right
    now) and the last one, The Rift, which was written by Brent Woods. It
    was suppose to be used in a movie sound track but obviously didn't, and
    it made its way to Vince's CD. But exactly as stated earlier, if your
    looking for an "Old Crue Style CD" this is not for you. Vince has gone
    in a different direction for this one, and it is definately a direction
    that I like...This CD Smokes, but again, its not for everyone...
    
    Bobby T

    WHAT?!?!
    
    
    BOBBY T ADMITTING THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT LIKE VINCE??
    
    
    ARE ALL THE PLANETS ALIGNED WRONG OR WHAT?
    
    PAULLY

    
    re-2
    
    you like it!What a suprise.....! 8)
    
    
    
    						ian

    	Vince's new CD, was released (apparently only 150) without Skylar's
    Song, which was suppose to a single on its own. And it had the cover
    tunes (which are suppose to be awesome) the Iggy Pop and Chicago
    songs, removed because Warner Bros didn't want to pay the costs
    for releaseing cover songs. So thats the reason it was majorly delayed,
    and thats why the cover songs aren't on it...But it is still awesome...
    
    Bobby T

    
    
      Vince Gil is Kool...heh uh heh huh...

	
	Gave it a few more listens.. I like it and it was worth the $$$.. The main thing
	I don't really like is the drums on most of the tracks.. maybe I need to get use
	to it, but the player is a very light player.. I prefer a hard hitter... 

	Whit-

    OK folks, this is our opportunity to chop up Vince!!
    Bobby T is stuck in KAO working ......WITHOUT a terminal! Now is the
    time to slag Bobby the great and the overweight,pre-teen idol, poseur
    goof that he worships.
    I heard they had to reinforce the stages for the tour to hold his
    CHUBBY BUTT up!
    I can see it now........
    
    JENNY CRAIG is pround to sponser VINCE NEIL, live in concert!
    With special opening act RICHARD SIMMONS!!! Sweatin with the
    has-been's!
    
    Paully 

    
    re: -1
    
    Cool! I'd go to that show just for grins! I never really was a Motley
    Crue fan like a number of other people. They really didn't impress me
    with their bad-boy attitude(s) and glamour-boy looks like they used to
    do......never really like Vince much either, not that I have heard his
    solo project(s)....now gimme John Oliva solo and I'll be there! I was
    hoping his side-project would get off the ground (I heard he was
    supposed to form a group called Dr. (or doctor) Butcher but nothing as
    of late, and last I heard he was still working on a second Rock Opera.
    
    His brother is also missed, an up-and-coming guitarist! Kid could
    smoke!
    
    Metal/mENTAL mike
    

    Blurb on the news this morning about Vince and his next door neighbor
    going at it, fist-o-cuffs style, over cars being parked in front of
    Vince's neighbor's house. Charges have been pressed by both parties.
    
    Bob

    If Vnce GAve The Dude A_Flyin_Body_Slam.....It Would be over
    Right_Then.
    
    
    
        Crazy_See_Ya_In_Court,Sonny_Al

    The fact that he is laying charges would indicate that LARDO must have
    gotten a bit of a whoopin'
    Must not have had Heidi Marks with him for protection......at least she
    fought the Gladiators!!
    
    Paully
    
    

    	Paula, Vince was the one who laid the whoppin'. Apparently he
    was having a small party/ or guests, and one of the guests parked
    in the neighbours spot. Vince and the guy started arguing, and a
    fight broke out, after Vince Kicked his Ass, he returned to the
    party. Later on Vince found a huge rock, through the windshield
    of his Rolls. Thats what Vince is charging him for, while the other
    guy is charging Vince, for being his personal punching bag...Vince
    also said that during the arguement, something was said about Skylar,
    so he SNAPPED...And whats this obsetion with Vince's weight??? He's
    still got a wicked girlfriend and more money then everyone here
    combined...Plus after a month on the road, he'll be back to normal.
    I mean he has to keep his fighting weight up, if he's gonna keep
    layin' beatings on people...*)) 
    	Also heard Vince was on-line, talkin to fans a few weeks ago,
    and one interneter, was Lita Ford, who was askin' about Sky, the
    new CD, and upcoming tours. Vince also said, they might do a few
    sneak shows under a fake name. He also said, there is a chance in
    the future he may record with Motley again, and maybe even tour,
    but he said he will never be a part of the band again. Apparently
    him a Sixx have buried the hatchett, and that the lawyers have been
    talkin about gettin' back together. Other then that, his new CD
    kicks ass, I've been listening to it all month...Includin' right
    now...
    
    Bobby T...

    Lita Ford
    
    hmmmm....Lita Ford......
    
    BABE!!!

    BOBBY COMES ALIVE!!!!
    
    I heard he was passing out NUTRI-BARS at the concerts....
    Paully
    

    
    
    if Lita were my sister....hee hee hee...huh...like I'd sleep with her
    in her bed !
    
    /Sax_who_would_keep_it_in_da_family
    

    Have you driven a FORD lately???
    
    Paully

    
    >Have you driven a FORD lately???
    
    	Tony Iommi probably has.
    

    And when he was finished, took half her band....
    

    The old lad I work with (you know who, Davey) left his weekly trash mag
    (Enquirer, I think?) and there is an article on non other than Vince
    Boyardee Neil himself.
    APPARENTLY....Vinnie's neighbor came over with his boyfriend and asked
    why all of the parking spaces were taken up. Old drunk Vinnie starts yelling
    homophobic slurs at the man and proceeds to beat on this guy. The guy
    then called the cops and Vince was arrested for assault, and uttering
    threats, because he told the little guy that he was going to kill him.
    I can't remember anything in the text about the rock in the windshield
    of the Rolls, however they did have a photo of said rock.
        Now I know that Bobby T has already told you this story and this is
    not news to anyone. BUT........
    
    What Bobby failed to mention was that the neighbor was half Vinnies
    size (As most of us are NOW), and that the man is in the final stages
    of full blown Aids. Real big defeat there Vinnie!!
    
    Paully
    

>>    The old lad I work with (you know who, Davey) left his weekly trash mag
>>    (Enquirer, I think?) and there is an article on non other than Vince
       ^^^^^^^^

Now I feel like I really know what happened 

Tim

    	 I just hope he wore rubber gloves, while pumbelling
    this fruit. Again, Paulla the Tabloid Freak, stirrin' the pot eh...
    Well, on Current Affair tonight (I don't know if Vince will be on)
    they are having special report on neighbours from hell...So I guess
    I'll be hopping between CA and ET tonight. By the way, I asked Dave
    what paper it was and he said he has no idea what your talking about...
    I'd like to see it though, I also heard he was in People Magazine
    a few weeks back. 
    
    	He said he was hoping to start touring in Mid-Nov, but I haven't
    heard anything new. I love the Carved in Stone CD, it's still kickin
    in my CD player, simply awesome stuff. I hope he comes to Ottawa
    this year or atleast Montreal aswell as Toronto.
    
    Say whatcha Want Paulla, The Crue is still nothing without him,
    Corabi sucks-ass, Vince's new CD Rules...
    Bobby T 

    BOOBY, 
    	As you keep saying "the Crue is nothing without him", it raises a
    question in my mind.......
    
    Explain why it is that YOU bought not one but TWO copies of their last
    CD??
     Paully
    

    	Because one had a RED cover, and the other had a YELLOW cover.
    I still like 3/4's of the band. I love the heavy groove off the
    new Motley, I just hate Corabi. No one can/could/or will ever be
    able to replace Vince...
    
    Bobby T

    SOOOOOOOOO.......
    
    
    Now that we know you have 2 of them and I'll admit to having
    1.......who bought the other 17 they sold?!?
    
    Paully
    
    Booby,
        I am not disputing that they are not the same as they were....and
    if I'm into my Motley phase, I always grab an older CD (with Vince)
    because that's the Crue I grew to lovelike, but that does not negate
    the fact that the new CD has some good stuff. It still has the same
    "heavy groove" that it always did......the MAIN music and song writer
    (read: SIXX) is still the backbone of the group, and the music hasn't
    changed. Just the voice singing it. Listen to Smoke the Sky or
    Misunderstood and tell me this isn't still the CRUE. It's not like they
    went back to the Theatre days..
    

    
    	I bought 1 of them also.
    
    	But only 1 ... I don't care how many different color schemes
    	they used on the album art if the music is the same.
    

    Yes because UNLIKE Booby, you probably have a life!!
    
    Paully
    

    
    	Vince Neil finally started his Carved In Stone Tour. He started
    it in Japan last night and has 4 more dates there, then he goes
    to Rio I believe...Finally got the People Magazine article on Vince
    and the death of Skylar 3pgs long some pretty sad photo's though,
    Vince in her room, her in the hospital, her grave, Vince and Heidi
    at the funeral...
    
    	Bobby T

    
    
    Burn my clothes I'm off to heaven,Vince is touring(said in a very
    sarcastic tone) ;^)
    
    						Ian

    
    I gave Carved in Stone a listen last night.Very differant from his Crue
    days. Brent Woods is good. I wish that they played a bit more of his
    solo at the end of track #4(can't remember the name). The song ended
    just as the solo was getting real good.
    The Crawl, IMO is the best song on the CD. Skyler's Song is a nice
    tune. It is sad that his little girl died from cancer at such a young
    age.
    
    I think I'll keep this one.
    
    Dave

    
    	"Black Promises" is #4, I believe.
    

    
    	I was wondering if anyone knows where Vince Neil is gonna be
    touring in the next couple of weeks, Feb 29th to Mar 11th...As I'll
    be in Colorado at this time...
    
    Bobby T

    
    	Where is the Axis Club (mentioned in 22.148) whats capacity
    etc.???
    
    Thanks Bobby T

    
    
    	bobby,
    
    	Axis is in Boston and memory serves, it's not really that
    	big.
    

    
    	Right behind Fenway Park, on Lansdowne St.
    

    a real dump

    
    	But a good chance to see a band in an intimate setting.
    

    
    
    
    Would you like it by candlelight also Shawn? 
    
    

    
    Whit - I'm surprised you mention candles - thought with your hair you'd
    be afraid of fire like the scarecrow! :^)
    
    /j

    
    	If he only had a brain.
    
    	8^)
    

    
    
    I'll remember that Jen.. 
    
    ;')
    

    
    **I'll remember that Jen..
    
    Be nice to me...I _HAVE_ PHOTOS!  :^)

    
    
    	Photos??!  do tell........
    

    
    
    I was younger back then and needed the money..

    
    Just pikced up tix for Vince at the Club Casino for July 25th.
    Along with him is Warrant (their still together?) and Slaughter.
    Should be a good show for 20bucks..

    
    
    if ya paid $2 it might be a good deal! ;^)
    
    
    						ian

    It still wouldn`t be worth it. They could pay me and I still wouldn`t
    go.
    

    
    	Warrant was at The Strand about 2 weeks after Dream Theater
    	last year.
    
    	And they released an album about a year ago.
    

    	Great News, the Metal Gods have struck...The wedding I was suppose
    to go to on the same date as the Vince Concert has been CANCELLED...
    
    I'm on my Way...
    Bobby T
    
    However, It wasn't a pleasant weekend for my friends (the bride
    and groom) things are OVER after 7yrs...

    Gettin Serious Can Do That...
    
       Crazy_Some_Times_Al

    Ya but Bobby neglects to mention...well let's just say Bob took
    flirting one step to far!

I always wonder about weddings that get called off...  Isn't it just easier not
to get married at all?  The hought of backing out of my wedding never entered my
mind.

Tim

    	Vince apparently asked for and received his out right release
    from Warner Bros. He didn't like the lack of support he was getting
    from the record co. (ie didn't allow the cover tunes, didn't help
    promote the CD or tour). And news I got, about 10 minutes prior
    to show-time was VIKKI FOXX has been AXED. Apparently the drummer
    had been taking equipment home without anyones permission/knowledge,
    and denied it which lead to his firing.
    
    	Now for the offical HAIRAPOLUZZA - UNZIPPED TOUR Concert review.
    
    Got into Toronto early 3:00 in the afternoon, toured and
    drank...Line-up started around 5:00. Some of the members of Warrant,
    Slaughter and Robbie Crane (Vince's Bassist) were mingeling. Met
    a ton of people had a blast. Slaughter came on around 9:30pm (doors
    opened at 8:00) good show, but the guitars drownded out the singer.
    
    There were ONLY 7 Vince Neil shirts remaining, the night before
    in Detroit 10,000 fans bought up everything, saving us Canadian
    die-hards hats only. I was 8th in line to get the shirts,  when
    I found out, there was only 7. So I bought one off a guy for twice
    the price, $60. But I am 1 of the elite 7, in Canada...
    
    Warrant came on around 11:00. I have never been a Warrant fan, but
    they put on an excellent show. The singer diving into the crowd,
    and body-surfin. And their new stuff sounds pretty good/heavy.
    When Warrant was over, I sent my buddy out to buy me 5 more beers.
    
    I was right against the stage, 5 beers set-up aswell as my camera.
    I was already pretty smashed by this time. So now was the time I
    found out about Vikki Foxx, and then who do I see coming on stage
    to check out the drums...None other then Randy Castello (Ozzy's
    drummer - Think I spelt his name wrong though). Man WHAT A SHOW...
    I got a picture of the song line-up ( but haven't got the prints
    back yet) But Vince opened with Kickstart my Heart. Other songs
    he did and not in order, Looks that Kill, Red Hot, S.O.S, Dr. Feelgood,
    Home Sweet Home, The Crawl, Your Invited But your Friend Can't Come,
    Breakin in the Gun and for the first time I got to hear 25 from
    6 to 4 - AMAZING -...His encores were Live Wire and Wild Side.
    Vince and I split a beer, Robbie Crane gave me a pic and he also
    gave me a beer, and I think I touched Vince more times in 2hrs then
    his girlfriend Heidi Marks has in 2 yrs...*)) I took 27 pictures,
    can't wait to have them developed. I also gave Vince my sunglasses
    and he was wearing them for a few tunes...
    
    	After the show, hung out with Randy (who I had met in Rochester
    after the Ozzy show) talked for a few minutes with Robbie Crane
    and Brent Woods. Man it was an AWESOME time. Vince also killed some
    guy who threw a beer and hit Brent Woods, he pointed him out and
    just frecked on him, I thought the crowd (myself included) were going
    go kill this meatball. 
    
    	All in All, this show was freakin GREAT. I'm still deaf, but
    had the BEST time. And I would suggest this show to everyone...
    
    	Bobby T    

    Sounds Like You Were in Heaven..
     
     Crazy_Hope_You_Donate_One_Of_Those_Pix_To_The_H_M_Photo_Album_Al

    	Well, got my pic's back last night and they turned out pretty
    great. Some great pictures of Vince wailin' away on the guitar 
    (he played it for 25 or 6 to 4 & S.O.S and a couple others) a couple
    pictures with Vince basically right on top of me, the pictures were
    basically all nostral and chin...And the rest were AWESOME...I got
    the song list aswell, which went like this;
    	
    	Kickstart - Dr. Feel
        Look in her Eyes - Exposed
    	Breakin in the Gun - Carved in Stone
    	The Crawl - Carved in Stone
    	Sister of Pain - Exposed
    	Red Hot - Shout at the Devil
    	Girls - Girls 
    	S.O.S - Dr. Feel
    	Home Sweet Home - Theatre of Pain
    	Your Invited But your friend Can't Come - Exposed
    	25 or 6 to 4 - Import version of Carved in Stone (Chicago-Cover)
    	Looks that Kill - Shout 
    	Dr. Feelgood - Dr.
    	
    ENCORES
    
    	WildSide - Girls
    	Live Wire - Too Fast for Love
    
    The pictures are bring back all the excitement from the show, needless
    to say, I'm very happy with the pic's.
    
    		Bobby T 
    

    I can honestly say that those pic's are cool Bobby T!  
    
    How do I know this everyone...well...first thing Bobby did when he got
    in was set up the slide projector in the office here and then started
    selling tickets at the door for the show.  Sure no one else showed up
    and I was already in said office but it went over well...only one other 
    ars**ole in the room and then just like that the show was over!
    
    Thanks Bahbby!

    
    	Bobby, do you have the import version of the new album with
    	the covers on it?  And would you know how to get me 1 also?
    

    	I haven't found a copy of it yet. But I was told that in the
    magazine Metal Edge, there are some CD seller's in there and you
    can buy it for $30 some dollars (the guy who was telling me this
    was at the concert and from Vancouver, where he paid $75. He was
    a "real" fan like my self. We met when he saw my Theatre of Pain
    Tat, and then he should me his Girls Girls Girls tat -same as Vince's-
    he has a ton of import stuff and we are suppose to exchange stuff,
    but I still haven't heard from him) Sorry for gettin of track there,
    but its called Carved in Stone II (the two I's standing for the
    2 additional tracks, 25 or 6 to 4 and Iggy Pop's Lust for Life)
    and this CD does NOT have Skylar's Song on it.
    
    	Bobby T

    ...bobby......tip:....be really careful when you say things like 'vince
    was right on top of me'.....someone like me might come along and point
    out that, given the overwhelming lust you have for this guy..at least
    in your notes...you might have found this way more enjoyable than any 
    experience you may have ever had with a  woman.....................:"))
                                          /k

    Bobby wouldn't remember the last experience with a woman!
    
    Wasn't it just before Shout at the Devil came out??????
    
    Paully 8)
    

    Caught Vince this weekend up to the Club Casino.
    Decent show....the sound was off....but by the time Vince
    came on I was pretty much deaf anyways. Made my way to the front
    row and just jammed out. It was fun....I think the highlight
    was when he did some old Crue...ie, Red Hot, Live Wire...etc.
    
    Andy

    
    
    	I know I'll get shot for this but......  how was Slaughter?
    

Slaughter was very loud and the sound was very off.....Although I 
dont think it was the bands fault...the sound board guy just didn't know
what he was doing. I really liked Slaughter back when Stick it to ya
came out...so it was cool seeing them live and up close....but I also
found myself getting bored with them as they did too many slow wave
you hands/sway with the crowd ballards. Maybe it was just the mood
I was in but when Fly to the Angels came on it was time for another drink ;-)

Andy

    I Hope it Was A Triple!!   :_)

    
    	Funny, because in Toronto, Slaughter's sound was screwed up
    as well. They were very good, but you couldn't really hear the singer
    over the guitars. I didn't think Warrent would be able to top
    Slaughter's show, but Warrent came out smokin. I'm not even a fan
    of theirs, but with Janne crowd surfin, the sound system sounding
    alot better, the new song of theirs kickin and the over all crowd
    reaction they definatly put on a great show. Then to top it all,
    Vince came on just crushed the place...He put on a great show...
    Speakin of which, how does one get a hold of the picture-album,
    there are about 7-8 of us here in Ottawa, perhaps we could see some
    of the concert-shots by the other metalers, and I can add a couple
    Vince Neil shots...
    
    	On a side note, again on the Rock report last night, they stated
    if the Record Executives, get their way, Vince will be back with
    the band. They have no desire to produce anymore Vince-Less-Crue.
    Aswell, Nikki Sixx dedicated his first Harley (the one on Girls,
    Girls, Girls - however with a new engine, paint job etc) to the
    LA Hard Rock Cafe (along with an Elvis bike, Bob Dilan bike and
    David Bowie bike) Nikki drove right into the bar with his son 
    Gunner and made the presentation. He made no-comments about the
    reported Re-union of the Crue.
    
    	Bobby T

    
    
    I will say, both drummers for Vince AND Warrant kicked serious
    ass.. What a great drum sound and they both played with hard
    attitudes.. 
    
    Whit-

    
    so Jim,now you are a big girl.......when do you get fitted for your
    "big girls blouse?" ;^)
    
    
    Warrant are...and always will be shite!
    
    							ian

    
    
    Right as soon as you fit me for it, ya'big nancy!