Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    I like that song, Paris is Burning by Dokken

        Paris Burning???
                    Never heard of em'?
    
                 No...Only kidding!
     Buck.....Amusing.
    
             The band was named after a Porno movie(before *I* was in the
    band).
             We just completed a four song demo that was sent to Tesla's
    tour manager. It came out quite good for the time and resources aloted.
       We've been together for about 7 months now.
    Paris Burning has really been around for about 2 years but *I* wasn't
    with them so it didn't count.8)!
    There drummer before was fired for tempo and lack of talant problems.
        Our singer came from Lousianna just to sing for us and is doing
     an AWESOME job!
           We have about 15 orginals.....
              Were kinda of a cross between old DOKKEN and Skid Row with
    a little Warrant influence.
     I know what your thinking----Oh Great! Another poser band! WRONG!!
    
            I think were quite a good rock & roll band with a cool look.
       
          The band members:
    
                 JONAS-Vocals,Lyrics
                  KYLE-Guitars..The 20 space rack guy...The backbone for
    the  music)
                 JAMII-Guitars(The *FEEL* player)
                 KEVIN-Bass...(POSE for short)The dad of the band)Lyrics.
                 ALLEN-Drums...... (Lyrics)
    
                   I'll keep everybody up on the progress of the band.
    BTW- Our next gig......
    
              October 12th at the Annex(Ground Zero) 
           Were opening the show with a hour and half set for Foolish
    Pride.
     
                          Frizkid
    
    

    >The band was named after a porno movie
    
    SEKA, a Boston-based band, was named after a female porn star.  Their
    name works, Goddess F-dot and I think Paris Burning doesn't quite
    work.  It just sounds funny, syllabolically speaking.
    
    
    >          Were kinda of a cross between old DOKKEN and Skid Row with
    >a little Warrant influence.
     
    Aack!
    ;^)
    
    
    >  The band members:
    >
    >            JONAS
    >             KYLE
    >            JAMII
    >            KEVIN
    >            ALLEN

    *My* suggestion.  You've got all these cool names...Kyle, Jonas, Jamii
    (with the quasi-Tracii Guns spelling!)...then you have KEVIN and ALLEN.
    BUZZZZZ  Don't work!  I think you should stick with "Kev" and "Friz"
    for stage names...they sound much more Rock N Roll.
    
    Buck E Lee, no relation to Jake!

    I like the name Paris Burning.  Very Cool Name.

    
    
    	This porno movie name thing isn't the same as the flick that's out
    now, "Paris is Burning"?, is it?  It's about transvestites.  
    
    	Early Poison could have called themselves that though. 8^)
    
    
    Paul

       I like it too......
    
                    Very HOT name!
                    Very HOT band!
         I sure alot of people THOUGHT "Motley Crue" wasd kinda of a funny 
    name too.
                Jazz
    
    

      Buck: It works for us.........
               Jamii is a HUGE Tracii fan and wanted his name spelt that
    way.  Kyle is really Kevin but didn't want people confusing the two..
    So he changed it to Kyle. Jonas has his real name.
             
     Thanks Pril' and Jazz!
    
            The band was name after a normal PORNO.
    Paris Burning with Victorria Paris.....Very HOT!
    
                       Frizkid
    

    Friz,
    
    My comments were meant as constructive criticism...hope they were taken
    that way.
    
    RE: players names...
    
    It does make sense.  If you have 3 people with unique names/spellings,
    the idea should be universal, otherwise, the latter 2 seem a tad
    de'place', and I think would focus more attention on the other 3 dudes 
    in the band.
    
    RE: band name
    
    It's cool, but with any rock band name, I run it through two tests --
    
    Does it fit well in the "Hey man, you gonna check out the * gig tonight?"
    
    This is an example where a band like "C + C Music Factory" fails miserably!
    It's all in how the rhythm of the band name flows in everyday
    conversation.  Like "Madonna"...one word, one syllable...easy to say,
    easy to recognize in Magazine text, etc.  Which leads me to test #2:
    
    You're driving/riding/walking down the road, you pass by a flyer/poster
    on a post/wall/billboard/etc.  Does the band name grab you?  Did you
    SEE it (important!)?  Did you remember it??  Would you see it flipping
    through a magazine, like the Beat (which has small print type)??
    
    This is where bands like BANG, and LA GUNS, and AC/DC, and POISON, etc.
    all score points as they're short, easy to spot, easy to read (wether
    it be on a T shirt, poster, mag ad, etc.).
    
    These are things I think you should be thinking of.  Public exposure
    and mass appeal is what the business is all about.  These
    considerations need to be thought about...
    
    
    

    I doubt most people are as analytical as you, buck...

    >I doubt most people are as analytical as you, buck...
    
    Not consciously, April, but those are VALID points...
    
    Lets take, for instance, Duy's DM t-shirts.  I have YET to run across
    ONE of those bands that had a LOGO that I COULD READ!!!  I am not
    blind, but the script was so overblown, it made it almost
    unintelligable!  Surely I'm not going to remember what band Duy was
    advertising that day if I can't read the band name, right??  I mean,
    we're not psychic.
    
    Also, I don't know how much marketing background you have, but
    basically the American buying public are LAZY.  They want life served
    to them o na silver platter.  They don't want to have to straint their
    brain on obscure band names, band logos, etc.  Thus, the people doing
    the marketing have to gear their product towards the masses.  This is
    how it is done, NOT the other way around.  
    
    Any band trying to break on the scene who has some strange name (lets
    usefor example GOTHIC GURU's OF GOLGOTHA) should get a clue that they
    won't go very far until they start marketing themselves to the masses.
    
    Buck
    
    PS - This is not selling out, this is survival

    Interesting test Buck!  Glad to see my band passes both tests.

    
    
	RE: .9
    	>I doubt most people are as analytical as you, buck...
    
    	Probably not but I've caught myself driving by a flyer that
    	was posted on a telephone pole and caught myself saying
    	"What'd that say?"
    
    	So I can see his point...
    
	Now to play devil's advocate ...
    
    	RE: Buck
    	>It's cool, but with any rock band name, I run it through two tests --
	>Does it fit well in the "Hey man, you gonna check out the * gig tonight?"
    	>This is an example where a band like "C + C Music Factory" fails miserably!
    
    	I guess that all depends on how popular the band is by that point
    	and who you're talking to, also.
    
    	"Hey man, you gonna check out the C&C gig tonight?"
    	...sounds fine to me.
    
    	"Hey man, you gonna check out the Guns and Roses gig tonight?"
    	....sounds absolutely lousy to me but they're doing okay for
    	themselves...
    
    	tigg~~~ who likes the name Paris Burning because it's different
    		than a lot I've heard

    >	I guess that all depends on how popular the band is by that point
    >	and who you're talking to, also.
    >
    >	"Hey man, you gonna check out the C&C gig tonight?"
    >	...sounds fine to me.
    
    You see, people have shortened it!!  Lie Return to Zero, already dubbed
    RTZ in the Boston area.  It will get to a point where someone will
    think RTZ is the name of the band, and have a total disassociation with
    Return to Zero!
    
    >	"Hey man, you gonna check out the Guns and Roses gig tonight?"
    >	....sounds absolutely lousy to me but they're doing okay for
    >	themselves...
    
    It does sound awful, which is why most people use GnR (to type, say,
    etc.).  In their case, the name, as awkward as it is linguistically,
    is RIGHT ON marketing-wise for their image.  How many names could
    fully encompass and do justice to a band of street punks who play this
    out-of-tune, neurotic rock n roll?  In that light, Guns and Roses fits
    like a glove!! 
    
    As opposed to C&C Music Factory...it's just a name that really doesn't
    supoprt their image at all.  They could have been called DANZE for all
    we know/care, and the msuic still would have sold.
                                                      

    
    Not being a critic, or anykind of offensive remark maker, Buck's rules
    remind me of 3rd grade.
    
    "When you think of a title for a boo report, make it an attention
    grabber"
    
    "Make sure you use the right word, for the right sentence"
    
    Ya brought back flashes, Buck.
    
    *****************8888888888888888888888888)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    
    Chris, who is only kidding cause, I'm in a SPECTACULAR mood!!!!!
    
    

    >Not being a critic, or anykind of offensive remark maker, Buck's rules
    >remind me of 3rd grade.
    
    Exactly...cuz the American public has the attention span/mind-set of
    3rd graders!

    
    Jeez, I don't even know if Mystic Powers passes those tests. Of course
    I didn't have any choice in the name. I just live with it and make
    the best of it.
    
    /prc

    I think Mystic Powers is ok, but I would eventually do something with
    your logo to make it a bit more identifiable.  Right now, it looks like
    any other band that is using that Post-Yngwie Malmsteen type of
    gothic-style fonts.  Which isn't *bad*, but look at a band like Wilson
    Phillips...They have that distictive Captiol "WP", slightly off center
    from each other, and in different colors, with lower case lettering for
    the rest of the letters.  Not that you overtly think about it being 
    different or unique, but you KNOW it's Wilson Phillips every time you
    see that dumb little "WP" in a magazine or something...

    
    Actually, I think if you have a really cool cover, cause that urges
    a lot of people to buy an album without hearing the music. 
    
    But anyway, I could care less if Metallica is called ANAL EXPLOSIONS,
    if they played the music they play, then I would still buy the album.
    
    No disrespect to anyone, but that's what makes everyone unique, they
    all have different views, that's what makes life so great.
    i do like Paris Burning, although came from a porno, reminds me of when
    the Nazis invaded France. I like Mystic Powers too, and Mystery City.
    And I like my cousin's band's name, Open Grave. But even if you named
    your band Geeks from the North, if people like your music, they'll come
    to see you any way...
    
    Chris, who is playing preacher wwwwaaaayyyy too much lately.   *8)

    >Actually, I think if you have a really cool cover, cause that urges
    >a lot of people to buy an album without hearing the music. 
    
    Exactly...just one more facet in the whole sceme of things...
    
    >the Nazis invaded France. I like Mystic Powers too, and Mystery City.
    
    Speaking of Mystery City...when I saw Jim and his friend at Can-O-Pea
    with their band jackets on, from A distance I thought they BOTH had
    POISON jackets on!!!  Cuz Mystery City is written in this nuclear-green
    script style writing, like the POISON logo!!!  Just one more incident
    on "sighting a band name from afar..."!
    
    >And I like my cousin's band's name, Open Grave. But even if you named
    >your band Geeks from the North, if people like your music, they'll come
    >to see you any way...
    
    True, but what about those people who don't even know about your music?
    How will you get them to listen to it in the first place??  I know *I*
    wouldn't waste my $15.00 for a CD on a band called "Geeks from the
    North".  Also, think about the promotion side of it.  An A&R person
    walks into his office on Monday am...he has a hangover from Rep parties
    all weekend long, and is short on sleep.  He walks into to find 50
    tapes sitting on his desk.  Now, the bands with the cool tape packaging
    (Name, logo, image, shrinkwrap, etc.) will probably be the bands whos
    tapes are not IMMEDIATELY thrown into the trash bucket!
    

    Okay...it's my turn!!!!
       Paris Burning(hey, that name is kinda catchy) is one of the
    few bands in Colo. Sprgs. that dousen't sound like they are trying
    to copy someone else. Their originals ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
      Jonas has a voice from HELL, and Allen is a KIllER drummer.
    
      Kyle is a *true* musician, not like most of the other guitar players
    that have been playing for a year and think they are the greatest....
     
              I think Paris Burning Rulz myself...
    
    Plus... I wanna see Pose throw his guitar again!!!!!!!!!!   8^)
    
    
                                                                     jazz

    
    That's true, about people, who haven't heard your music. But I would
    hope that a Scoutlike dude, would put more effort into his job, Cause
    he could discover the next metallica, or somethin' ya'know. But you are
    right, I'm sure that happens, more than not. I do agree with the
    attention grabbers, but to an extent, if you based all your efforts on
    attention grabbers, your gonna end up labeled a word that gets written
    a 100 times a day in this Con......
    
    			           POSER
    
    	So i'm not saying... Paint your cover black and but a nearly
    invisible snake, from the Don't Tread On Me flag, down in the bottom
    right hand corner, and release it. I'mjust saying don't put crap like
    enuff Z' nuff does on their album, I think that's ultimate stupidity.
    But of course that's just my opinion.  8)
    
    Anyway, Back to the straying topic...
    
    	Friz: I forgot what I was going to ask, so I'll get back to you...
    
    Chris, who just can't stop preaching

    I aint never seen the band but Paris Burning is definately a name that
    invokes mental images, it is rocky, it's almost as if the band has to
    live up to the name. 

    I'm amazed that this band name discussion has become such a big issue. 
    But I guess since none of you know any of the band (except Allen) and
    haven't heard any of their music, there's not much else to talk about.

    Honestly, I thought Paris Burning was an odd band name at first too, it
    doesn't seem to pronounce well,  but after hearing it for awhile, I
    don't mind it. I thought it was cool to name a band after a cool old
    Dokken song, and I was really disappointed when I found out it was
    after a transvestite porno flick!

    However on the other hand, I like the band.  They're a nice personable
    bunch of guys and have some good catchy songs.  I look forward to
    seeing them perform in the future!

    Greg

    ..i agree....i know the only thing that i know about this band is their
    name and so it's the only thing i'm qualified to speak about..my
    reaction...,,,i liked the name the minute i heard it....it provokes a
    little more thought, although that may or may not have been intended,
    than the usual.............../k

    
    
    
    RE: Buck
    
    
    Poison? thats probably the last thing I would have thought of! 
    
    Maybe from a distance, Motley Crue.. (right Friz?!) They seem fine
    to me. As a matter of fact a girl that works there came up to us and
    asked if we where in that band... we said 'ya' she was like' 'Really?!'
    I've heard of you guys.. and for the mailing address.... makes you feel
    good when someone walks up to you outta the blue, plus it was in NH, in
    which we never played out there.....
    
    
    Paris Burning... I like it.. has a cool sound to it!
    
    JW-

    JW..
    
    The key here was "Green script writing".  Poison, in my mind, is the
    only band with a logo like that.  Motley's script logo I've only seen
    in black.  Had they been white jackets with black lettering, I probably
    would have thought Motley, but the black with the green lettering...
    

         To tell you the truth:
    
             When I joined the band...I wanted the name changed!
    
            But really......It grew on me!
    
            Now i wouldn't change it for anyone..(Except for record labels)
                     Now that survival.
    
       The name is quite catchy.............
    
                        Where developing a rather large following for C.S.!
    
       The mailing list is over 4 to 5 hundred people.
    
    
                            Frizkid
    

     BTW-
    
            The name came from a little PORNO in which Victorria Paris
    stars......    Paris Burning.
    
           NOT THE BI-SEXUAL WEIRD MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
               Which is called Paris *is* Burning!
    
                        Frizkid
    

    
    I know what ya mean Friz. It took me quite a while to adapt to
    Mystic Powers, but after a while it didn't bother me.
    
    Besides, if and when we get signed, they'll probably want us
    to change it anyway! 8-)

    
    I can't see why, If they let bands like Annicrusis, and deicide, or
    even C and C music Sh*thouse. keep their names why shouldn't they let
    you keep yours.... hhuh?
    
    
    
    Chris, who asks questions for no good reason...
    

    >I can't see why, If they let bands like Annicrusis, and deicide, or
    >even C and C music Sh*thouse. keep their names why shouldn't they let
    >you keep yours.... hhuh?
    
    Why ask why?  (try Bud Dry!)  8^)
    
    Seriously ... Annicrusis and Deicide are on indy lables, who care less
    and give more artistic freedom to their clients.  As far as C&C goes,
    who knows?  It was probably the project of some hot shot producer who
    sold the whole ball of wax (record recorded, image, sound, etc) to a
    record company for X amount of money (like New Kids).
    
    Buck, who has personally been through, and has seen friends bands go
    through the "we don't like your band name...change it ASAP, or get
    lost" response from record comapnies.  When they are the people with
    the contract and the monies, you listen to them, or you walk.  In the
    case of Jamaican Vacation (which I thought was a cool name), every
    record company we talked with (about 9) ALL said "it conjures the
    mental image of 7 black men playing reggae, not 4 white guys playing
    punk music with a loose reggae-based influence!"
      
    
                               

    I think the name is hip...  And I've seen 'em live and heard the
    tape...  Keep the name, but for god sake, if your gonna name a
    band after a porno movie, name it Deep Throat, or Vanessa The Undressa
    or something.  :)

    
       Greg... are you doubting my integrity?  I asked on my own free
         will...
    
          Hey Friz, when are you going to pay me???  8^)
    
                                                   
     P.S.  Where is the benifit gonna be?  It's not gonna be outside is it?
    
                                      jazzzzzzzzz

    I would never doubt your integrity, Jazz!  I was doubting Allen's
    ability to promote himself...

    gh

         I can promote.....
    
                       I promote sex,drums and rock & roll!!!!!!!
    
         As far as Paris Burning......
    
                             I was getting around to it...Sheezz
    it's in November!!
           The only reason Kyle wants to do is because of his new 
    groupie friend that lives down there(No,She's not dead,Greg!)8)
    
          Ya know....Even if *I* do put it in here:
    
                          No one will show anyway.
    
         Jazz.....Are you going to be our agent or what?
    
    
                              Frizkid
    

    
      YO FRIZZZZZZZZZZZ,
    
            You will never geuss what happened yesterday while I was on
    
    one of my yearly trips to the grocery store!!!  I was standing in line
    
    behind these three girls that were talking about Paris Burning. They
    
    wre like calling dibs on you guys!!!  One of them was in lust with
    
    Kyle, and one says " After I get my hands on Jonas they are going to 
    
    havve to call the band Jonas Burning!" and then the other one said
    
    "I don't care... as long as you stay away from the drummmer. He's
    
    mine!"   I couldn't believe it!!!  
    
      Hey dude...  Maybe I could start chargin little girls and give them
    
    your phone number!!!!!!!!!!!  8^)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
                                                jazzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Hey Friz, what are you using for your drum setup?
    
    I'm thinking of switching to the drums.
    
    This guitar stuff is too hard! ;-)

    Mike....Ole buddy....Ole pal.....
    
            I use a double-bass Pearl Export Series......With a Yamaha rack
    mount set-up........Mostly Sabian Cymbals.
    
            8) If you think that 6 string is hard......
    
         Try being a REAL musicain and playing you instrument with ALL of 
    your limbs.8)
    
                      Frizkid
    

       So what did you think?
    
                    Frizkid
    

      O.k....I just got off the phone with POSE(Our bass player)
      and he said:
    
              Tesla pick a signed band for ticketdraw and it's less
    expensive.......They did LIKE the tape though!!!!!!
           (I was expecting this....But I'm glad we where consitered!)
    
      But this guy like our tape soooo much that he played it for
    Arista Records.  They love it but want us to be together longer before
    they consider us.(That's to be expected too)...
      This guy and MAYBE...just MAYBE an Arista Record rep. are coming to
    check out our show on Oct. 12th. ( Come support us !!!!)
    
           Also this guy has his own Independent labal called
    Havanna Records which he what's to sign us to for a 6 song E.P.!
     So where getting a lawyer and checking the whole deal out!!!
      I know...I know what your sayin----BE CAREFUL!
    We will......
    
            Although a slight dissappointment with Tesla....
    
              This band is coming along great and may just go all way!
    
    
                           FRIZKID--On cloud nine.
    
    

      Oh yea........
    
             This guy is also playing the tape for Lou Gramm tonight!!!!
    
                   Frizkid
    

    Friz,
    
    This is somewhat serious...
    
    Ever thnk of re-naming the band to  ...
    
    
    			POSE  ??
    
    Fits my band criteria back about 20 replies.  I donno, I just thought
    it up and it really kind of fits the band.
    
    Buck, who would go see a band called Pose, and ever remember the name
    to tell someone about it!

    On the record deal.
    
    Do what Def Lep does...have everyone in the band listed as having
    writing credits.  This makes sure everyone stays happy, cuz only the
    people who write the songs get any money out of the deal!!
    
    Also, beware of publishing rights!!!  Make sure you have a hand in
    this (wether it be 50% or whatever).

          I'd like to thank ALL of the DEC employees for come out to the
    show! {Amazing DEC turn-out...I think about 20 people!!!!)
      I saw a few of you from this file so let's hear it.....
           I KNOW the soundman blew bad but how was:
                           1.The band?
                           2.The songs?
                           3.Stage presence?
                           4.The price of drinks? 8)
                           5.  Overall..........
    
    
                             Frizkid
    
    

    friz,
       
             The soundman REALLY BLEW!!!!!! It was so muddy I couldn't
    
             distinguish between the instruments, and you were almost
    
             non existent in the mix!! Stage presence was really good,
    
             and the crowd really liked you!!     Skip/Hardballs

>           I KNOW the soundman blew bad  
    
    Listen man, I can't say enough bad things about that sound bozo!  Does
    he hate you guys or something?  He gave you absolutely the WORST mix I
    have *EVER* heard in my life!  It was completely pathetic.  It sounded
    like bone dry lead vocals lost in a mush of noise.  
    
    The first three or four songs were completely lost.  It got better as
    you played on, but I couldn't hear any cymbols or kicks at all and
    couldn't hear a single guitar solo the entire set.
    
    Even with the sound at it's best toward the end of the set, about all
    you could hear was lead vocals, rhythm guitars, and snare.  If it were
    my band, not only would I have NOT paid the sound man, I probably would
    have choked the sh*t out of him!  ESPECIALLY considering that he gave
    the other two bands a fairly decent mix...
    
>but how was:                                         
>                           1.The band?
    
    Who could tell?  I could hardly HEAR them!  It looked like they were
    playing it up pretty well, but it was real hard to say for sure.  I
    braved the teenie-boppers for a couple of songs and went up front with
    Jesse, the sound was better up there because you could hear the guitars
    from the stage volume rather then just through the mains.
    
>                           2.The songs?
    
    I heard a couple that I'm sure I would really like with a good mix. 
    Interesting choice of covers too.
    
>                           3.Stage presence?
    
    Pretty good overall, but frankly you guys looked really cramped on that
    stage.  That doesn't make sense either, because it's a moderately large
    stage too.  I personally think that your stage presence would improve
    if you brought less equipment or set it up in a way that it didn't
    interfere with the room you had to move around in.  I noticed
    especially that Kevin was pinned in the back the whole show and he kept
    trying to get out a little and would get all over Jonas when he did.
    
>                           4.The price of drinks? 8)
    
    Not great, but ok.  I was bummed that they didn't have any licquor,
    just beer.                                                         
    
>                           5.  Overall..........
    
    Overall:  Well... VERY disappointing!! I really wanted to hear you guys
    with a decent mix to hear what the songs sounded like.  The mix I heard
    from BACKSTAGE the last time I saw you was better!
    
    And have Jonas lose those ugly shoes!  Blek!
    
    I'll send ya a couple of other little suggestions offline, ok?
    
    gh
                                                                        

    
    i hope this wasnt the show you've been talking about with the record
    company reps showing up....
    
    always bring your own soundman if you want it done right.
    
    

    Yo Jim, this guy mixed 'em worse the the one that did you when I was up
    there.  And there I was thinking a mix didn't get much worse then
    that, foolish me...
    
    I really think that sound guy must have hated them because he did an ok
    job getting a decent sound for the other two bands!  (not a great job,
    but perfectly acceptable).  Very weird!
    
    I'm with Rob, definately bring your own soundman.  Not only does it
    insure that you get someone who knows what they're doing (presuming you
    bring someone that does), but it gives you someone that knows your
    songs and can boost levels at exactly the right time (like for guitar
    solos and such).
    
    gh
                    

    
    especially for a show where you expect to have record company reps
    attending!  why take chances?  even if you have to shell out the extra
    few $$$, make sure you sound good for the people that count!
    
    

        For you people that keep saying stupid stuff about the soundman and
    record reps:
    
                    We wouldv'e hired our own guy IF the record company
    dude had come to town.  One of his other acts was opening for Bob
    Hope...He called us and told us that and then he said he'll pay for 
    us to rent out a venue and play for him next time to make up for it!
    
                           Frizkid
    

    
    We promise never to provide constuctive criticism again.

    
    
    	RE: pete
    
    	Sounds to me like Friz was just explaining why their
    	own soundman wasn't there.  And FWIW, no offense, but
    	I've yet to hear much constructive criticism from you 
    	when it comes to Friz.  BTW... who's "we?"
    
    	Sheesh... give it a rest already...
    
    	tigg~~~ who doesn't mind bashing once in awhile but
    		sometimes it's difficult to tell where the
    		kidding stops and the joking begins.

    
    I asked him for a tape this past weekend and have not yet had
    a response. I'm sure when I fly out to Colorado I will be able
    to hear the band first hand.
    
    /prc

    Yo Friz, lighten up!  
    
    You had said something about record co. people being there before and
    hadn't said anything to indicate that they weren't.  I didn't see
    anyone beating you guys up about your show, just some suggestions.
    
    gh (who still says that sound guy must have had it out for ya)

    ......re: Bad sound guys??...........geesshhh.....don't get me
    started.......same thing happened to me last thursday.....my condolences 
    Friz.........................../k
    

      RE:Greg...Pete....
    
              Sorry, it was early in the morning and Rob got to me like he
    usaully does.  I *LIKE* constuctive critism if the person know what
    the situation is/was.  
    
           I'm with /k......I'm bringin' a F**KIN' baseball bat for the
    next geek soundman!!!!!!!
    
           Even though the soundman scewed the pooch....A musician here at
     work said "We're the best local band in town"....which was cool to
    hear after all I been hearing about is that clown behind the mixer.
    
                        Frizkid
    

    I arrive at the Annex nice and early to shoot the shit with Friz and bs
    around until the show starts. Well the firsted band is still at Taco
    Bell or somewhere, so Friz introduces me to some members of his band
    and a couple from the last band. Well the first band shows up around
    6:30, so me, Bob and Bob's SO head to O'Furries to drink cheap beers. 
    had 1 beer and a pitcher of beer so I was ready for Friz's show. We get
    back to the Annex and it looks like a high school pep assembly. Great.
    I go to the cage and get a beer, drink it, then go and get rid of some.
    well I yell at gh so we go brave the boppers. I get a spot right next
    to the speaker and the show begins. Obviously these guys have a good
    following cuz it sounded like a frick'in beatles concert with all the
    LGTBs(tm) screaming their fool haids off. I'm with the everyone who
    said the sound man shoulda bin kilted. I was able to hear Friz and he
    did good. The guitar player practically was stepping on me so I heard
    him ok. Except for the acoustic parts. The bass was good(what little I
    heard), the singing was loud at times and low at others. Yeh, I'd
    definately kill the sound guy. But I had a great time inspite of the
    mix. About midway thru I noticed this chick seemed to be losing her
    shirt so I went to point that out to gh but he was gone 8^(. Oh well.
    not much to speak of anyway. 
    	The stage seemed a tad small for you guys, and the left (from
    Friz's point of view) seemed real crowded. The music was good though
    the mix wasn't. The only real bummer if the night was the POISON
    COVER!!! Naw, just kidding. I gotta see you guys again, cuz I liked
    what I heard despite all you guys had to overcome. I thought it was
    funny the way the place was emptying after your set.  ;^)
    
    
    Devil dog
    

>    I thought it was funny the way the place was emptying after your set.
    
    Yeah, I liked that too.  The exodus got worse after you left, Jess!  By
    the time the next band started only about half the people that had been
    there were still around.  I noticed a lot of people leaving during that
    next bands first few songs too (after which I left too).  People seemed
    to be milling around, going in and out and stuff during their songs
    too, not real intent on the band like they had been with Paris Burning.
    
    It's a good sign for you guys, Friz!
    
    As it worked out, the next band (Foolish Pride) had replaced the guitar
    player that had been with them so long and it changed their sound quite
    a bit.  I didn't like them nearly as much as the last time I saw them
    and I left after about 4 or 5 songs (I think, but who could really tell
    because they all seemed to sound alike). I would have been embarrassed
    if you'd stuck around around to see them based on my recommendation and
    then had them sound like that.  I was disappointed because I really
    liked them the last time.
    
    Life in the fast lane...
    
    gh
                            

    
    It is time for the ultimate review!!!!!  I wasen't going to go on
    account of the most STUPIDIST band (foolish Pride) was going to be
    there...but I couldn't miss watching Friz thrash around like a mad
    man on his drum cage! (his NEW drum cage)
       they opened with Snakeskin...(cool song...very cool) Then blistered
    out two more songs including the talk box one... The girls go crazy
    on that one it's like they think that since he likes to stick things in
    his mouth that........
         They did their newest song, which went over real well,B!tch!n'
    song dude!  (but do they EVER write a bad song!!  I think NOT) The
    new one went in between thier 2 accoustic songs  (I  LOVE  those!)
      The last accoustic tune, which is Tears(abv.) is the absolutely
    my all time fave from P.B.!!!!!!  Then they RIPPED into a fast and
    heavy version of "Look What the Cat Dragged in" but WAY better then
    Poison!!!  8^)  
      Then they soared into an orgasmic frenzy with the next three
    heaviest of their songs!!!!!!!!!  "I Just Wanna Make Love to You"
    Brang the AWESOME set to a much unwanted end!!!!
    
    Even though the sound man blew I still had a good time....
       Paris burning deserves a little more credit than just b!tch!n'
    about how the sound man srcewed em'
    
      What about their musical abilities???????
    
    
                                                                jazzzzzzzzz
    

    
       HEY!!!!!!   Don't you have a gig coming up soon???  Cause why havent
    you said anything about it!!??   Who else is going to be playing?
    If it is those Foolish Pride geeks I will be seriously ILL!!!!
       Any new songs???????
    
        Come on Frizzzzzzzzzzz  share some info!!!
    
                                                            jazzzzz

>    If it is those Foolish Pride geeks I will be seriously ILL!!!!
    
    How many new members will they have this time?
    
    gh

    
    I hope they replace Mckensy(drummer)  and the bass player and the
    singer...who sounds like a Queensryche reject...
          They just might as well quite all together!!!!
    
                                                       jazzzzz

    re: Jazz
    
    Oh, you mean replace all the *original* band members they have left...
    ;^)

    
    I think that it was an excellent idea for them in the first place to
    dump their first guitar player!!!  He was AWFUL!!!!!!
          Did you ever see/hear him????  YUCKO!!!!
    
            The whole band is a DUD!!
    
                                                             jazzzzzz

    re: Gh,
    
        The old guitar player is playing in a thrash band next to Hardball
    in the old Hydra practice place!!! They are pretty hot sounding!!!
    
      Also I read on the bathroom wall that Paris Burning is breaking up???

    
    
    Kevin?????  Thrash?????  Cool...maybe that is more his style.
    
                                                      jazzzz

    I'm not sure which one was which, but yeah, I've seen them several
    times.  I was talking about the tall guy with blond hair.  Played a
    Washburn guitar and stuff.  I thought he made up about 90% of that
    bands sound.  The last time I saw them, he was gone and some clone
    everyone-soundalike was in there and the band had no distinctive sound
    anymore.
    
    gh, who kinda liked 'em before

      Which bathroom wall?
    
                I plead the 5th on this one.....
     
          But there is a bit of "trouble in paradise".....
    
                    No matter what happens Paris Burning will keep going.
    
               Oh yes...
    
      We'll be playing down in Pueblo at the San Diacristo art center
     for a cancer benefit.
    
             And then Rack and Roll on December 1st....
    
     I would suggest seeing one or both of these show because ya never
    know?
                            Frizkid
    

    Just an update:
    
     As you all might know Paris Burning is in the process of replacing two
     members.  Personal and musical differences and drug use were the 
     prime reason for the boot to these two.
     Jonas and Jamii are out. The rest of us are auditioning players and
     being abit more selective. (I never knew how many dorks think they can
    sing)!  All of the song will stay because those two never wrote
    anything.  I also celbrated my first year with this group.......
    Some people said it counldn't be done.
    
     The rumors flying around town about the band make me believe that
     alot people have good chances of working for a tabloid.
    The rumors are:(BTW-None of these are true)
    Jonas and Jamii are cokeheads.......
    Kevin is moving to Arizona to join a band......
    Kyle is moving to California to try out for Poison........
    Allen is getting married.............
    
     How come Kyle gets the good one?
    
             I'll keep ya updated for any new members or good rumors....
    
                   Frizkid
    

>    (I never knew how many dorks think they can sing)! 
    
    I *tried* to tell ya...
    
    
    Hey, I gotta question.  You guys do a song called "Snakeskin Lover" or
    something like that, right?  Is that a song about loving the skin of
    snakes, someone that loves snakeskin clothing, loving someone that
    wears snakeskin clothing, having sex with snakes, or what?
    
    gh

    Greg.....
    
    
        The meaning of the song runs deep.
                  If you were a true fan you might know what it means.
    But you'd probably drop about 15 years and have a sex change.
    
           BTW-I wrote alot of that song.......So BEWARE!
    
                         8)
    
                    Frizkid..
    

    Actually I heard a rumor that Allan was getting married to an Arabian
    shiek's daughter and they were moving to Tibet to raise Tigers and
    train them to play ping pong. 
    
    
    When I was in high school we tried to form a band and none of us could
    sing, since I also couldn't play any instrument I was forced to do it.
    Well except to the inaudible punk screaming, and that only attracted
    every coyote in the state.
    
    
    

>        The meaning of the song runs deep.
    
    Like whale dung?
    
>                  If you were a true fan you might know what it means.
    
    You mean if I were a *true* fan, I'd somehow be able to hear the words
    when the sound system is so facked up that nothing is audible?  This is
    the reason I hadda ask, if I knew what the words were then I could
    probably figure it out for myself!
    
>    But you'd probably drop about 15 years and have a sex change.
    
    No shat!
    
    So...what's the song about?
    
    gh
          

        The song is about a two-faced b|tch who kills her johns and moves
    on.
    
     Kinda like a snake sheds it's skin........
    
                     Frizkid..This is one of my least favorite songs from
    us.
    

        Greg,
    
            Why do you care anyway?
    
                    Frizkid
    

    Why do I care?  Why not?  The chorus to that song popped into my head
    in the shower this morning and I got curious what the rest was about. 
    You worrying about getting some free publicity in here?

    My advice?  Drop the deep part and make it about getting off on
    snakeskin boots or something.  The pre-puberty set won't understand
    about killing people after screwing them (plus it might be hazardous to
    your health if any of them start getting influenced by yer music).

    gh

       GREG--That wasn't a snide question....It was interested question.
    
     Buck.....WTF are you talking out? 8)
    
      Greg......We want to write songs with meaning...Not just bubblegum
     hook.   
             We ain't GLAM.....And we ain't THRASH...8)
    
                         Frizkid
    

    Since we didn't lose and songs I'll list them for those interested:
    1.Snakeskin Lover
    2.Dancin' Alone
    3.Little Fantasy(You should have been a blonde)
    4.With You Tonight
    5.I Never Said I Loved You
    6.Everything I Do(Written WAY before Bryan Adams)
    7.Tears Never Let You Down
    8.Hey,Hey Rebekka
    9.All Over Again
    10.Jealous
    
        And a few others in the works.....
    
                      Frizkid
    

TEN songs Friz ??

Better look out dood...

    We have more but these are all I wanted to list......
    
       The reason is because it takes along time to write quality.
    
            At least for us.......
    
                       Frizkid
    

    My review of the Paris Burning demo.
    
    	You guys suck!  Give it up man!  

    8)  Just kidding Friz!!!!  My feelings are the exact opposite actually.
    
    You guys sound sorta like L.A. Guns IMO!  (that is meant to be a 
    compliment)
    The guitarist has some way cool riffs, and the (ex-)singer was 
    remarkable.  Not to mention that gnarly drummer.  ;)
    
    Overall, I was highly impressed.  If I lived in Colorado, I'd probably be 
    your #1 fan, no kiddin'!
    
    Okay:
    
    1.  Dancin' Alone	
    
    	This one's my favorite.  It's crunchier than grape nuts.  8)  I like 
    	the cool riffs and the rhythm.  8)  It's completely original.  I can  
    	almost hear the sweat pouring off that poor over-worked drummer!!!  
    	What massive talent this guy must have.  I hear the potential and it 
    	makes me quiver.  8)
    
    2.	Everything I Do
    
    	Aside from the fact that Brian Adams' lyrics sound remarkably the    
    	same (you should sue that dude for ripping you off! ;), this song is 
    	also very original.  It's a sweet little ditty that makes ya go 
    	"Awwwwww". 8)  I like it, but not as much as Dancin'.
    
    3.	Tears
    
    	All I can really say about this song is that it kinda hits home.  The 
    	guitar work is powerful, yet soft.  I like this tune almost as much 
    	as Everything.  I really like the acoustics on it, especially the 
    	ending.  I wish I could understand the lyrics more though.  It's a 
    	beautiful song.  Masterpiece.  Okay, I like it more than Everything.
    
    4.  Jealous
    
    	What a treat!  Another crunchy one.  I can hear the L.A. Guns 
    	influence in this song more than the other three.  The solo is sweet!
    	I was listening to it at lunch and I was actually singin' along.  
    	It's too short though...  Also maybe a little too repetitive...but 
    	hey, repetitive is cool!  ;)
    
    			The End.
    
    
    'pril
    

    Last night we auditioned a shredder guitar player. He was very cool and
    had his sj*t together for the audition. (I almost died!)
      We're going to give him some time to merge before 'letting' him in
    the band...What REALLY funny is that he's played in mass quanities of
    thrash bands here in town and he sick of it. How enlightened....8)
    
                             Frizkid
    

    But he wasn't as good as Kyle, right?

    You got it....Close enough for me though.
    
     I think they'll make a good contrast as Kyle and Jamii did.
    Having two guitarist that sound the same would be pointless plus
    it adds more diversity.
    
                   Frizkid
    

My Paris Burning Demo review:


Dancin' Alone:
--------------

My favorite song! I love the riff, and the guitars sound fackin' awesome.
The drums are played great. Nothing I don't like about the song. Even
the guys voice is good.

Everything I Do:
----------------

better than Bryan Adams song! I like the intro, but the only thing is
the overlay of the acoustic (or non-distorted) guitar under the distortion.
Basically the song to me sounds like Kyle-a-mania, but it's still a good tune.

Tears:
------

	the singer's voice stands out a little more hear than the rest of the
songs... another Kyle-a-fest though... I liked this solo better than
the rest.

Jealous:
-------

	The drums would be roolin' if not for the high-hat which I didn't
	like the sound of that much. The vocals are pretty good. The guitars
	are another good aspect. My second favorite tune behind
	Dancin' Alone.


Vocals:
-------

	I liked the sound of his voice, just wasn't to fond of his technique.

Guitars:
--------

	Rythms on DA are great. The solo's are great even though some seem
	to be dragged out a bit. What's with Kyle and the VERY high E
	every now and then?

Bass:
----

	My biggest problem. Where is the bass? Might be the quality, but
	I don't remember hearing the bass once.

Drums:
------

	Whattta geek. He stinks! heh heh heh ... jus' kiddin'.... I like
	his style, and he can double bass pretty good. I dislike the
	sound of the high hat, but that's probably not his fault.
	If he twirls his sticks, he shouldn't, cuz that takes away from
	the playing ability. He's still a great drummer even though 
	he plays geeky music... ;')

    Thanks Chris!!!
    
            Frizkid
    

    Jesse..Speaking of Van Halen:
     I think we do a cover of "Where have all the good times gone?"
    signifiying the crap we've been going through.
    
         Frizkid
    

     Cool!  We were doing "Crazy little thing called love" for moral
    reasons.  I love the clicks on the rims...
          If the new guitarist gets in he wants to do some Racer X which is
    real cool with us. 
                  Frizkid
    

    Hear ye....Hear ye!!!
    
    Paris Burning put it back together Saturday night with the addition of
    a new singer. What happened to the last one?  HE FLAKED!!!
    Now we have the other guitarist and a singer that kicks it!
     We're gonna spend some time to get the set down...Add some stage moves
    primp the hair, build some stage effects and we'll be set!   8)
    I'm REALLY PSYCHED!!!!
    At the moment we're trying to to get the Lillian Axe show that might be
    rolling through Rack and Roll!
    
                    Pray for the poseurs!!!!
    
             Frizkid
      
    

    
    
       Friz,  where did ya find a new singer???

    Hell YA!  He's most rightious!!!!!
    
         He was right under our noses....He used to singer for PB when they
    did covers. I think you saw him at Wasson.  His hair has grown out
    since....THANK GOD!!!!!
    
                 Frizkid
    

    I got a copy of the Paris Burning demo yesterday. I thought the guys
    did a real good job for a 4 trak recording. My favorite tune out them
    all was "Dancin Alone". I think Friz did a fine job laying down the
    backbone. The guitars,vocals and bass sounded very good. I think these
    guys have marketable material. I'd really like to hear an 8 or 24 trak
    recording in the future...
    
    Fine job Frizkid!!
    
    Bob

    Thanks Bob!!  
    
      Paris Burning is on the fast track and will be playing out again
    next month. (Thank God!!!) May 10th at Cahoots in the Marriott.
    ALL AGES!!!! FWIW-Foolish Pride is playing it too.
    This is a break-thru gig seeing that it's our first one and Marriott
    always has LAME COVER BANDS play there.
    
                      Frizkid
    

    I just got my copy of the PARIS BURNING demo in the mail today.  Only
    listened to each song once so far (on my way back to work from my mail
    box), but below are my first impressions:
    
    Favorite songs, in order:
    
    Dancin' Alone
    Jealous
    Tears
    Everything I Do
    
    MISC COMMENTS:
    
    - The beat (tempos) are pretty solid throughout...a little shakey on EID
      but still, next time you record, record the drums to a click track.
      I think it will help beef up the psycological impact of the grooves
      set up, esp. in songs like Dancin' Alone and Jealous.  You know, like
      Tommy Lee...that kind of feel (grooving, but in perfect time).  Tommy
      Lee's drumming would not sound as awesome if it wasn't so in time 
      (think about it).
    
    - Basically, I think the recording is pretty poor.  Yeah, I know, 4tk,
      but the Beatles recorded on 4 tks, too.
    
    - Wot, no background vocals??  Esp. for pop metal, you guys need to
      work out some backing vocal arrangements, in a big way.  This genre
      screams for them!!
    
    - Lead singer's voice can get a tad 'whiney' at times (ala Mike Tramp).
      In a better studio (24 tk), I would do a few tricks to beef up his 
      sound and make it less annoying (well, maybe grating is a better word)
    
    - Rhythm guitar is too loud during lead guitar solos!!  Also, I didn't
      like the lead players choice of notes in EID...very a-tonal/constant 
      structure like lines...I would have preferred a more diatonic approach 
      for this song!
    
    - I didn't like the clean sound on the guitars.  If and when you
      re-record in a better studio, please work on this (acoustic and 
      processed electric mixed would work well in this genre -- see
      Steelheart and Beau Nasty for comparisons)
    
    - I didn't like the verse melody in Everything.. at all.  The Led
      Zepplinesque pentatonic blues melody just didn't float here!!  I'd work
      on this section.  Also, I didn't like the bass/drum groove on the intro
      of Tears.  Too basic.  I think a poly-rhythmic counter rhythm to what
      the guitars are playing would help set a better groove overall.  Also,
      in the chorus, I would also not follow exactly what the guitars are
      playing rhytmically (as well as harmonically for the bass guitar) Like
      when the guitars go to that "D" chord, It would be nice if the bass
      took the 3rd of the chord.
    
      Everything I do would also do well with a bridge section in it.
    
    - I didn't like some of the endings...Tears could have had a better,
      less cliche-ish ending (I was thinking something along the lines of
      Carrie by Europe...where the singer sings that line a-capella as the
      instruments drone).
    
    SUMMARY:
    
    * Re-record in a better studio (16 or 24 tk...preferably the latter,
      to do justice to this genre)
    
    * Get a producer!!  There are some good ideas here, but a Producer 
      would really help pull them together in a professional format.
      The biggest problem I have with these songs are the arrangements.
      They're just too A-B-A-B.  New arrangements with background vocals
      would make for some damn decent songs!

      I got my Paris Burning demo the other day, and was hella impressed
    with what I heard.
      The first song "Dancing Alone" started out the demo with kill energy.
    The combination of screamin' guitars, jammin' drums, and kill vocals,
    got me all hyped out and signing along. This one really got me going.
      The second song "Everything I Do"  slowed down from the first, but
    still really rocked. It had nice sensitivity to the lyrics thats really
    refreshing. I dug this one a lot too.
      The third song "Tears" is a very pretty song, but ballsy enough not
    to sound sappy. and again, another thumbs up!
       The fourth song "Jealous" is hella bad. This one was my favorite.
    It really rocked all over the place. Another excellent energy filled
    jam that gets you bouncing of the walls.
    
      All in all, if ya hadn't noticed, I really like this band. I think
    they are very talented bunch of musicians. I hope that someday
    California will get to experience the sensation of Paris Burning.
    
       IMO:  Ear Candy!  
    
    ~S~

    Friz, what's the lineup? 

    Billy Johnson-Vocals (I know it sounds like a football player huh? 8) )
    Kyle E. Edwards-Guitar  (He can't make up his mind on his name) 8)
    Kevin 'pose' Moser-Bass 
    Jason Curtis-Guitar  (This guy is a Jazz Nazi from hell) Weird that
    he's even in the band. 
    Allen 'Friz' Frisby-Drums 
    
     BTW-The show has been pushed back by the promoter to May 24th due
    to Mother's Day and Spinal Tap.
    
    So mark your calanders....
       INDISE INFO:
     FWIW-I have a very strange feeling that things my be on the brink
    of something weird. No reports from the band yet though.....8)
    
            Frizkid
     

>    Kyle E. Edwards-Guitar  (He can't make up his mind on his name) 8)
    
    Geez man, now he's changing BOTH his first and last name?  Why
    bother???
    
    gh

    >>                               -< Kevin Rodella >-
    >> 
    >>    Kyle E. Edwards-Guitar  (He can't make up his mind on his name) 8)
    
    >     Geez man, now he's changing BOTH his first and last name?  Why
    >    bother???
    
    Man, that is LAME!!!

    What's lame about it?  It his F**KING name.  He can do what he wants
    with it.
    
    I like Kevin Rodella better but it's up to him.  I mean just about
    everybody does it....
    
                Frizkid
    

    Friz,
    
    I just think it's lame, that all.  MHO, ok??  Take a val!
    
    
    RE: Mike
    
    Time for VAXthreat  ;')

>    What's lame about it?  It his F**KING name. 
                            
    But it's NOT his name, that's the whole point!  Why would he want to
    change his name anyway?  I mean, I can kinda understand the "Kyle"
    thing, since you have Kevin M. in there with the same first name.  I
    just don't understand the motivation...
    
    FWIW, I think it's kinda lame too.
    
>   It his F**KING name. 
    
    Oh wait!  I reread your post and now I understand!  That's just the
    name he uses when copulating!  Keeps the ladies he tosses aside from
    catching up to him later!
                            
    John Q. Public

    
    
    I got Friz's tape yesterday, so here's da review! I know me and Friz
    argue alot and he hates my guts, but here's a totally non-biased
    review.
    
    The sound quality was way off, what did you record on?
    
    The first song really rocks! I like the singers voice, and I like
    the timing change in the song, good work Friz! The guitars are cool
    but cause of the sound quality I couldn't hear the bass well.
    
    The other two songs are good too, but not my cup off tea.
    
    Unlik Buck, I didn't see any timing problem. I followed along keeping
    time and didn't see any problems.
    
    I'd like to hear you guys g into a 16 track studio. It would do you
    justice! This is the kind of music I actually love to play because
    it's not so demanding, you can have fun with it (and show off to it 8-))
    and it's easier to work with than going a million miles an hour like we
    do. 8-)
    

    >Unlik Buck, I didn't see any timing problem. I followed along keeping
    >time and didn't see any problems.
    
    There you go Pete, misconstrueing my comments again.  I didn't say the
    PB tape had "timing problems" ... what I said was, the bass and drums
    would groove MUCH better to a click track, ala Tommy Lee.  And that is
    a true statement...go home, take out Dr. Feelgood, put it on, and  grab
    a metronome...you will find the groove to be RIGHT ON...that is becuase
    they recorded it to a click track.  I was saying to get the same kind
    of groove, which I think would compliment the songs, you have to record
    to a click track.

    
    Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

    
     Well for some time now I've been promising Friz a review, so here
    goes:
     First song, DANCIN' ALONE. Great opening song, lots of energy in the
    song and some intresing tempo changes. I like the singer's voice on
    their demo, even tho I understand he's no longer with the band. The
    lead breaks I think are really hot, and definately cuts through and
    sounds great. I do think that areas of the tempo changes could be ac-
    cented a bit more to stand out.
     EVERYTHING I DO. This is my favorite on the demo. Reminds me heavily
    of older UFO influence. The song has a great groove to it and some
    nice guitar licks. I also feel this is the strongest song on the tape.
    I have no negitive comments on this cut, I wouldn't change a thing.
    Great song and really shows alot of thought was given to write
    this one.
     TEARS. This one is a ballad and my second favorite on the demo. This
    song is also well done, and has very meaningful lyrics that I'm sure
    most people can relate to. Its well structured and could easily be a
    hit for almost anyone that plays it, if you know what I mean.
     JEALOUS. This is the final song on the demo and my least favorite
    (sorry Friz). The song has a good groove and all, but I just can't
    seem to get into this one. Nothing really stands out as far as being
    bad or anything, just doesn't move me 8^).
    
     So to sum things up, I think that Paris Burning has huge potental.
    I think their original songs are very strong and show that the band
    does have talent. The recording does not do justice to the material
    on this tape. With a good recording it would improve the songs 100%.
    I hope to catch this band live sometime, Best of luck Friz, keep it
    up, I hope to hear more from Paris Burning. Definately two thumbs up
    for the demo!!
                     mike
     

General:

Good tape - I think the songs are catchy and I think Kyles
guit-work is rippin'.  Tell him I said to be careful with his
whammy so he doesn't rip it out by the roots.  Again, over all
I think the tape is pretty happenin'.  However, next time you
do some recording use a click-track (I think Buck had mentioned
this).  I heard some timing flaws in Everything I Do.
You also might try using a open air mike for acoustic guitar
tracks - acoustic ickups take out the "flavor factor" of a fine 
acoustic.  What was Kyle playing ?  A Takamine ??
Also - I think your ex-singer did pretty well - a little monotone
perhaps... and get him a "pop screen" - I heard a lot of "p's"
You guys gotta help your singer out.  Perhaps a no-instruments 
rehearsal to get some harmonies together ??  I think cool harmonies 
will REALLY turn some heads.

Dood - I hate that we got a 27th generation copies.  My copy 
had some wierd hum and hiss on it.

Anyway:

Dancin' Alone

This tune is hip too - my second choice.  This toon is BEGGIN' for some 
harmonies.  Help 'im out !  Cool breaks.

Everything I Do

Everything I Do is your number one tune (IMHO, naturally).


Tears 

Friz - you need compression on your drums - I was bummin' 
cuz the drums sounded really cool, then they'd disappear from the mix, 
the show up again then peak and pop a little then go away... A good 
compressor would smooth that out quite a bit.

Jealous 

I gotta agree with Mike on this one - I felt like I was missing the hook 
or something.  Vocals were distorting a little, but I really liked the 
delay thing at the end...

Overall - Good tunes dood - go to a studio and record 'em so we can 
hear whats goin' on !!

jc

    Mike....I sent your tape last Friday.  I mean Pete already got his and
    he's on the east coast.  You know the postal service.....
    
             Frizkid
    

    BTW-Coop/Mike thank you very much!!!! 
    
    Coop:We recorded on a four track....No room for back-up vocals.
    Most of the song were done on one take with no over-dubs.
    
              Frizkid
    

Four tracks - I understand the lack of room on tracks...
But you can submix - try it !!

:)

    
    ping-pong em!!
    
    

    RE: Rob
    
    Ding-ding - CORRECT !
    
    Well - actually, what I had in mind was sub-mixing vocals to 
    one track, another track for guitars, one bass, and one for 
    drums (also sub-mixed).  This allows for live recording - 
    the only way to use a four track (IMHO).  Recording LIVE
    is the ONLY way to go...  The one track at a time thing SAX !
    
    jc
      

    
    
    	Got it earlier in the week.  But my stereo is so blecky that
    	I have a heard time understanding anything being said on it.
    	From what I COULD hear, it's thumbs up... but I'm going to
    	give it another listen on a better stereo.
    
    	tigg~~~

    Tigga,
    
     The recording quality is quite bad so you have to find a good boom box
    or something and CRANK IT LOUD. 8)
    
         Frizkid
    

Ya mon - 

Like the dentyne commercial:

"You never get a second chance to make a first impression"

Most people aren't musicians - they don't care about the diff between 
DBX and Dubley, and DAT and CRo2 and...  They only wanna hear the music.

jc (with $.03 this time)

    
    Format is important for radio stations.
    
    Quality is important for everyone.

    Well FWIW this demo was just us messing around but then people wanted
    to hear it.  So me being a nice guy I start sending it too everyone....
    
    O well....At least ya know a little of what we sound like. 
    That's the important part.
    
               Frizkid
    

Hey....waita sec...

Ain't this the same tape you did for the A&R guy from Tesla !?!?

jc

    Mike: I did listen to your tape...
    
     Goddess: I know...It's quite good.
    
    Coop:The guy wanted a tape in five days and didn't care about
    production...He just wanted to hear what we sounded like...
    Plus he got the first copy which didn't sound half as bad as your copy.
    
    FWIW-He was ready to sign us on his label because of that tape. Which
    goes to show his intentions. He was a joke and he just wanted to ream
    us.  He wanted to keep everything that we had worked for for himself.
    
    BTW-Jonas and Jamii (Our EX members) are going to New York to record
    with him sometime this month.  They wanted to do it anyway plus they 
    we're willing to sell their mothers to do it. Too bad he he'll probably
    be dissappointed when to totally ignorant people with no musical
    ideas show up.  Then again that could be what he wanted....
    
        Rob:HA!HA!HA! Scary indeed! 8)
    
                  Frizkid
                   

    Update:
       The band was going good for about two weeks but then the new members 
    started showing their REAL colors.  The singer was more interested in
    getting laid than ever showing up for practice.  We didn't even have to
    tell him he was out of the band...That's how much he was showing up.
    Pretty sad but I've see it happen so many times it doesn't phase me
    anymore.
    The guitarist was suppose to be some shredder god but couldn't grasp
    the concept of chords to well.  He was having a real hard time learning
    our material.  He made it easy for us and moved to Florida before we
    could tell him he just wasn't working out.
    Then we went back to square one trying not to let this upset our flow
    of the band.  We went back and started songwriting which is becoming 
    alot more comfortable as we continue. It seems that we can't keep up
    with all the new ideas but that's better than sitting around forceing
    the ideas.  
    As it turns out now...We're working with a 17 year old that just moved
    here from Kentucky.  He's 6'7" which is kind of weird but I think it's
    cool.  So far he's learned most of the set and fits real well with the
    attitudes in the band.  He's played us some of his original material 
    and I think it's going to be a great mix with our stuff already.
    Now I'm even more behind on lyrics...8)  The problem I have with lyrics
    is good topics. I want to be original as possible and have interesting 
    things to say. I think I'm getting better...
    All in all if this band could ever get a deticated singer I think we
    could really have something here but until then we'll just write for
    our first three albums. 8)
    Right now we're going through a nationwide newsletter to hopefully find
    a singer.  
                     Frizkid
    
    

>    Friz, no matter how hard it may be, try avoiding cliches when you
>    write.
    
    I completely disagree, Mike.  His genre of music *requires* that he use
    cliches, in fact, the more the better.  The problem is coming up with
    enough cliches to make entire songs.
    
    If he writes songs with massive cliches, then he's guaranteed success.
    
    ...and not just lyrical cliches either, if they use musical cliches
    then they'll be doubly successful!
    
    gh

    Mike:Cliches.....Everybodies got e'.  I just wanna write about
    interesting stuff.  P.S. Don't tell me how to live...Thanks.
    
    Greg:NOT! 
                      Friz
    

    Well...Then keep the poser comments to yourself until you get to know
    me.  8)
    
         HA!HA!HA!HA! One of the current members singing?  We tried that 
    last practice and we all laughed ourselves to tears.
     I wish one of us could but NO CHANCE! Trust me....8)
    
          Friz
    

    I think Paris Burning should become a power trio...then you'll never
    have to look for two other musicians ever again?!

    I thought Kevin could sing?  He used to sing background vocals, didn't
    he?  He'd be a good front man too. 
    
    gh

    Greg: Kevin is a double diamond singer.....
    
       He can do King Diamond or Neil Diamond.....Neither will do in our
    band.
    
             Friz
    

    
    	I have listened to this a few times. Even if the sound
    	quality isnt that great- I love it! Definately talented!
    	Thanks Friz for the tape... You guys sound great!
    
    	SueJ

   friz, 
    
          Did you happen to here the new "Foolish Pride" Album/EP on the
      KATM raido yesterday??? The reason I am asking in here is they are
      your big time competition!!! The station did an interview and played 
      the songs over and over. I will have to say those boys might be on
      there way to the big time!!!!!! The quality was equal to all the
      other bands they played inbetween songs. I am impressed!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                      Skip/Bob

    Bob:   No...I didn't here it.  I'm real happy for them though. They've 
    been around in this town FOREVER and it finally looks like they might
    be going somewhere.  I just wish the KATM was sticking around because
    it seems like they're more attentive to local bands that KILO.
      Anyways...I hope they do make it. They deserve it.
    
                  Friz
    

>    They've  been around in this town FOREVER and it finally looks like
>    they might be going somewhere.  
    
    That is, if they could manage to keep the same lineup long enough. 
    Those guys go through more players then I've ever seen!
    
>    I just wish the KATM was sticking around because
>    it seems like they're more attentive to local bands that KILO. 
    
    Sure, they can now, 'cause now they think they have nothing to lose. 
    They've also been a little freer with their format in the last month or
    two then they were in the past.  I seriously doubt they'd be doing that
    if nothing had changed with the station ownership.  They'd be back to
    the same ole 15 minute "local spotlight" at 11:45pm on Sunday nights
    where they'd play two songs by DENVER bands...which, now that I think
    of it, is more then KILO ever did, so I guess you are still right. KILO
    has never supported local music, and I think that sucks. 
    
    Greg
                                                             

    Z-rock gives more air time to Colorado bands than KILO does.

    re: .402
    
    That's very true!  They have a decent local spotlight and I've heard
    some good stuff on there in the past.  Haven't heard it lately though,
    is it still on?
    
    Greg

    
    Gh,
    
         Kilo use to try to help the local bands, remember the Dark Horse
    Dreams album!! They really pushed that for awhile, but the ratings must
    have suffered or something!!! They also pushed Heroes, and Myzar along
    time ago. Why play a local band when they can play the new Vince Neil
    hit and go for the ratings!!!! Anyway KATM was really pushing the new
    Foolish Pride playing it over and over. Wait till ya here it!!
    

    MYZAR??  ACK!!! Talk about wimp rock at it's finest!
     KILO pushes the lame stuff...IMHO!
     Z-Rock DOES play more local stuff than KILO. If I was at KILO things
    would be different. 8)
    Speaking of that...Greg, Why don't you get a job at KILO?
    You might have to take a pay cut but you could do it right. 8)
    
              Friz
    

    Joey Tafola used to say that Jag Panzer had to beg KILO just to get an
    announcement of a gig that wasn't at DJ's. 

    re: Skip

>         Kilo use to try to help the local bands, remember the Dark Horse
>    Dreams album!! They really pushed that for awhile, but the ratings must
>    have suffered or something!!! They also pushed Heroes, and Myzar along
>    time ago. 
    
    Musta been before my time, I don't remember that.  I've only lived in
    the Springs since '87.
    
>    Why play a local band when they can play the new Vince Neil
>    hit and go for the ratings!!!! 
    
    ...and play it until everyone hates it.  I'm getting sick of that
    stupid song already!  I think it's poor planning when you burn people
    out on something they once liked.
                        
    re: Friz
    
>    Speaking of that...Greg, Why don't you get a job at KILO?
    
    'Cause they wouldn't hire me.
    
>    You might have to take a pay cut but you could do it right. 8)
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    That's why they wouldn't hire me.
    
    They don't want it done right, they just want to make money.  Lots of
    it.  At the lowest possible cost.  I'm totally convince that they buy
    their play lists.  I've heard that many radio stations do that.
    
    Hey, I'd love to have a job in the music industry.  I think being a
    program director at a radio station would be incredible fun!
    
    gh

    
     Not to get off on a tangent, but I remember when KILO started here
    many years ago and was really quite good. Through the years they have
    become very commercial. In the last couple of years I started to notice
    that their programming started to parallel MTV. Whatever was on the top
    10 on MTV would mysteriously start getting played on KILO. Wouldn't
    surprise me to hear rap on there soon.
                                            mike
    

    FWIW:  You guys were right, it wasn't long before I heard the Foolish
    Pride thing on KATM.  They had all the guys from the band yackin away
    during the time I was driving home and played one of their songs...
    
    The band came off like idiots IMHO!  They were all uncoordinated and
    unprofessional.  The were interrupting each other, all  talking at the
    same time, couldn't keep a consistant distance from the mike in the
    studio, so their voices were either in your face or barely audible. 
    Couldn't answer even the most simple questions.  They should have just
    sent one or two guys down there who could speak at the proper time and
    sound like they had a brain in their heads.
    
    On the other hand, I liked the song of their's that got played a lot. 
    A shame...I almost turned them off before they played it because they
    were acting like such morons.
    
    I think that if they're going to try and hit the "intelligent,
    progressive metal" audience which they seem to be targeting, then
    they'd better get their image together and act like professionals.
    
    gh

    
    re: .409
    
    Interviews have to be planned out beforehand. Otherwise, you come
    off that way. Their loss!

    re:gh
    
        "Intelligent progressive metal audience" listening to KATM Haaaaaa Haaaaaaaa
    that is a teenie booper station, and Foolish Pride are all probably
    under 20yrs old.
    
    
    p.s.  Jennifer Bell now works for a country station!!

    FWIW-Foolish Pride did come off like morons.  I wish them the best but
    I just had to laugh.
          BOB:They're all over 20 easy...
    
                 Frizkid
    

    re: Skip
    
    Yeah, you're right about KATM, they're pathetic.  But they're doing
    more for local music right now then any station here has in the last
    five years.
    
    They had a different local band on there last night, Eccentrics or
    something like that (however it's spelled).
    
    gh

    re:gh
    
            I didn't mean that they are "pathetic" I like them!!
        I just remember when we played their Beach Party a couple of
        years ago for all their listeners the average age was 16!!!
     
        High School smiles OOOHHHH YESSSSS!!!

    I just wanna ask some questions here....
       On Monday night the band was telling the new member about record
    companies and stuff pertaining to that since he doesn't know too much
    about it.
      Then we started songwriting because we has some cool ideas to work
    on.  All of a sudden Pose bashes this really cool song that I like alot
    and wants to start over  with it.  I was of course pissed off
    beyond belief and he knew it.
        They seemed to believe that it didn't have enough melody....
    The song had something to say and I thought what it lacked in melody 
    in gained in a cool idea and attitude.
    Then we got into substance vs. selling records.
        What are some of your thoughts?
    Substance or cool melodies that sell records?
    
                     Friz
    

    See but I want to say something....I don't wanna go:
    
     Look at the blonde driving down the street
     Man, She's hot and I really wanna have her bob on my treat.
    
     ACK!!!! 
    
     I wanna play fun music but with interesting stories or subjects.
    
         The problem is Kyle is retarted when it comes to lyrics and
    all he cares about is a cool melody and selling records.
     I want the same but I want some cool stuff so I 'll be proud to say 
    "I WROTE THAT".
     FWIW-He's really into that Blondes In Black Cars vein.
           All of are songs so far have substance but in the words of
    Shotgun Messiah "I WANT MORE"!!!
    
            Friz
    
      

I dont' generally pay much attention to the words...
I don't usually remember song names...
I'm forever saying "that cool new toon by rgeyurf"

FWIW,
jc

    Sorry, dude, but I'd also have to agree that cool music will getcha a
    lot farther then words with subtance.
    
    gh

    Cool. That's it I give up. I'm writing the most blithering sh*t for
    lyrics and believe me I'm good at it.
    
             Friz
    

Blithering sh*t works good - look at Shotgun Messiah, Firehouse..... !!

    O.k. but don't b*tch when the we get a singer and I send all of you
    demos with BLITHERING SH*T for lyrics on it.
        Ya'all drove me to it....8) NOT!
    
          Friz
    

    Oh SUUUUUUURE! Bust on Friz when he's out to lunch....8)
    
     I do like Nelson but not enough to fight in here about them.
        Me liking them has something to do with bubblebaths and sex..YOU
    figure it out!!!!!! And NO...Not with them.
    
    We're songwriting our little butts off and putting an ad in a national 
    fanzine for a singer.  That's about it....
    The guitarist Brian is still with us and working out GREAT!  
     
     We have such a backlog of songs that it should take the singer about
    half a year to feel comfortable with all the songs.
    
     We are also writing an acustic set which we plan to do once we get a
    singer.  
               Friz
    

    Oh no, not the "acoustic set" bandwagon!?  Bleko!  See what that did
    for Tesla?  Sent them straight to oblivion.
    
    And what does that giant poster of Nelson in your bathroom have to do
    with you blowing bubbles in the bath or sex?
    
    gh

    Excuse me?  Acoustic bandwagon?  We thought it would be fun and NO one
    else in town does it.  Tesla....Oblivion? NOT! I think that you're
    living oblivion and that is why you don't realize Tesla is headlining
    their own concert and sell-out venues EVERYWHERE. (Even when it's on
    the same night as LaLaPaLOSER)
    So take your comments and go do some research before you start making 
    blanket statements.
    
         I have no posters of Nelson....
    
                  Friz
    

    
    FRIZZZZZZZZZZ  I just had to thank you for saving my sanity!!!!!!
    I got into the car this morning and guess what was in the radio!!???
    YOUR DEMO!!!!!!!!  That means that my soul luvin honey was listening
    to some REAL music for a change!!!!!  Maybe he will convert back
    to rock after all!!!!!  (please please please)  And it is your tape
    that is doin it!!!!  
       
           Now maybe when we are drivin down the street the only boom
    I will have to listen to is you trashin on the drums!!!!!  8^)
             hee hee hee.....oh I am so happy!!!!!  8^)
    
                                                            jazzzzzz
    
                     
    

    well,Friz sent me a copy of PB playing live and although its very rough
    and the singer has the voice of a 3 year old,I was mildy
    surprised.Friz,the man who likes Warrant(are shite)plays in a band who
    are actually pretty good.A lot heavier sound than I had expected and
    I'm impressed...!Dancin' Alone is the best of the 4 songs,can't
    remember the other 3 but this stuck out most!
    
    
    
                                                 Staynz

    re: Bob
    
    Yep, Nothing's Shocking is totally roolin! 
    
    ...maybe I will dig out that Paris Pooting tape and subject myself to
    it, though.
    
    Maybe I'll "review" it!  Frizbo beware, remember my recent re-review of
    "Cherry Pie"?  ;^)
    
    Gh

    Greg: OH! We're dead! 8)
    
     Staynz: Thanks...The voice of a three year old!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    I'm dyin'!!!  
                      Friz
    

RE voice of 3 year old

Friz, are you sure YOU weren't singin it?  8*)

Jmystr

PS. WHERE'S MY TAPE?  YOU LONG-HAIRED FREAK!

    
    Where's my tape too !

    TONE:It must of got delayed...I sent yours the same time as Staynz and
    he got his?  Either I'll get it soon or you will.
    
    J:You never asked...Now ask nice! 8)
    
               Friz
    

OK, So WHERE'S MY TAPE, YOU LONG-HAIRED THREE YEAR OLD!
8*)

Jmystr

    Sorry....You don't get one.
    
              Friz
    

    Shirt and shoes required, J.
    
    gh

     NO pants needed tho...
    :)

    Our concert WOULD be better if everybody forgot to wear pants..
    
               But under those hot lights we might have to rename the band:
    P*NIS BURNING........8)
    
                Friz
    

>    Our concert WOULD be better if everybody forgot to wear pants..
    
    in the audience.  Have the band leave 'em on!!!
                                               

Hey!!! What the h*ll happened to this topic???  From reply 94 on 31-JUL-1992, 
it goes back to 17-JUL-1991 on reply 95!!!!???

But any case, 

RE; .107 from 18-SEP-1991 I can do this cause I've been away from the 
		conference. 8*)

Acronyms and shortening band names...  BAHAHAHAHAH!!!  I can just see Friz on
PBMax commercial.  PB doesn't stand for Paris Burning.  And there's Friz 
haning on to the back of a bob-sled.  8*)   BAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Too funny!!!

RE; .90
<Sorry...You don't get one.
<		Friz

Waaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

RE; .91
<Shirt and shoes required, J.

Hey, you're just jealous of my year-round tan, Whitey!  8*)

Jmystr

    Mike:Yea...Well the bass player in PBmax knows a girl named Rebekka.
    Why? I've met her and the song Hey,Hey Rebekka sums her up nicely.
    
    J:Send me mail and we'll firgure something out for ya.
           
           BTW-We four tracked out 45 minutes worth of backlogged material
    without a singer. I felt like we HAVE been doing something these last
    few months.  I don't know but I've been writing about 95% of lyrics as
    of late and I'm swamped with ideas. I love it.
    
               Friz
    

    re: .175
    
>Hey, you're just jealous of my year-round tan, Whitey!  8*)
 
    I tried shoe polish, but it just made a mess.
    
    gh

>   I don't know but I've been writing about 95% of lyrics as
>   of late and I'm swamped with ideas. I love it.
    
    
    You should write a song about this conference!
    
    Ken
    

    
    Ooh Ohh momma....Im a heavy metal noter
    Livin down here in South Dakota
    Gonna Take you out tonite and make you scream
    Cause Im a conceded poseman...baby Im your dream
    
    
    :*)
    Bob

    Bridge:  OH OH  Bob should broading his horizons with a razor blade
                   because POSErock will send him to his grave
             OH NO He's in alternative rock for the glamour and fame
             but the only thingit's gonna get him is a tombstone that bears his
    name.
    
          Take from one of my new songs but with a twist for Bob,
    
                  Friz
       

    Others may laugh but I pose just the same
    Can't get nowhere in life
    Unless you play the hairspray game
    I say uhhhh... got any Rave?
    
    Whaaaaoow!   
    
    (insert solo here)
    
    :')  :')
    

    That last one isn't directed at you Friz, just in a silly mood and
    adding onto Bob's 1st verse!
    
    Ken
    

    Ken...Be honest its directed at FrizPose!
    
    
    :*|

    No it's not!  You're going to get me in trouble!  
    

    No problem....I thought it was funny!! Just like I thoughts Bob's was
    funny except for the conceded part...Take that back BoB!
    
        What's the chorus gonna be?
    
                  Friz
    

    How about:
    
     Here I Am...Close you eyes and I'll be your POSERman.
        Here I Am...I got a dial-a-shade Maybeline in my hand
             Hit me with a truck because i can't believe I F**Ked you.
    
            Friz
    

    
    HAHAHAHA

    ....friz......your spelling problem is going to be the death of you...
    are you upset cuz bob said "conceded" or "conceited"...grab that
    websters...they mean decidedly different things................../k

    ...-1 on re-reading bob's original "verse"...maybe it's his spelling
    problem and not friz-bo's...........in either case...........

    
    WTF is going on ? 8*)

    ...i read the last few responses....and responded.....i don't explain
    'em................//k

    
    Ahhh.....
    
    Duh!
    
    
    8*|

    You want speed???? Our new song is clocking in at 240 beats p[er
    minute.  Pound it out on you desk if you have no idea how fast that is.
    8)
         Friz
    

    Do you have a lot of practice beating.. er, things at 240 bpm?
    8^)
    
    Chad

    have you got a singer yet?
    
    
                                         Staynz

    Songs written to have a strong vocal line aren't songs without someone
    singing them, IMVHO.  
    
    gh

     Cook:Yes...I've had plenty of practice beating things that fast.
    That's my claim to fame...8)
    Staynz:No...I HATE ALL SINGERS! HA!HA! Just kidding but they are a
    strange breed. 
    Greg:True the song was written with a strong vocal line but what what
    makes you think it's not a song just because someone isn't sing it?
     It all put together and all the singer has to do is step in sing it.
    Therefore it's a song. Case closed.
    
         Friz
    

    Because vocal songs are generally boring as you can get
    witoutthevocalsmon!

    Ok OkOKOKok, I can't resist...

    BUT...This is quite the exception. 8)
    
            Friz
    

    Paris Burning has decieded to get out of this country/cover band town
    and move to a bigger and better area.  We didn't want some over
    saturated area like L.A. or Seattle so in January me and Vicki are
    moving to the TWIN CITIES in order to find a house for the band
    and then they will be joining us soon after.
    The point is this town sucks for original music and we are not willing
    to die here, Secondly...We need a great singer. The local talant sucks 
    in the singer department and no talanted singer in his right mind would
    move here....SO WE ARE MOVING TO THEM. I'm excited!!
    
        Thus...After January I won't be here anymore. 
    
          Friz
    

>    Besides it warmer than the tundra (aka Minnesota).                    
    
    But dude, ya got more time to work on yer material when there's no
    motivation to go outside and do something else 'cause the weather
    sucks!
    
    l^)

    WTF are the 'twin cities'?!?

    
    	Minnesota ... St. Paul and Minneapolis, I believe.
    
    							GTI
    

    You got it Shawn! I thought everbody knew what the Twin Cities were??
    You know the "Minnesota TWINS"...8)
    
      We got together and figured out where we wanted to move. We did some
    research and that's where we wanna go. 
     Besides the Prince jokes galore...I'm really excited!!!!!
       The whole point is ANYTHING(besides Seattle) 8) is better than HERE!
    
         Friz
    

    Why dont you move to Siberia...then? Im loathing the thought off having
    to smell you aquanet hairspray when we have a Westerly Wind.
    
    :)

    HA!HA!HA!HA! That was the funniest thing I've heard in a couple of
    weeks! 8)  Thanks for the concern BOB!
    
           Friz
    

    No problem....Im in a REAL bad mood today!
    
    Bob

    
    
    Hey friz!! Screw the twins... move out to BOSTON!!! ;')

    
    Yeah... you guys could be the next Extreme (gak!)

    He knows he really wants to move to D/FW.

    Jim:I've already had twins....They were better than that girl named
    boston. 8)
    
    Mike: Do you wanna live my life for me?  We picked it...If we don't
    like it we'll be to your town next. It's a done deal.  (For now) 8)
    
           Friz
    

    April: Austin,Texas came in a close second but we have more connections
    in Minnesota.  Sorry...Maybe next year.  
    I plan on moving until we find our nitch.
    
           Friz
    

    }} but we have more connections in Minnesota.  
    
    What are you, in the mob???  8-P
    
    Don't you know it's COLD up there?!?  Oh, I forgot.  You're used to that.
    
    8)
    
    'pril (Y'all don't know what y'all'r missin'...)

    Mob...no, but something close to that. 8)
    
         I'm used to cold...it's no big deal. What a bunch of wimps in
    here. 8)
    
     What would we miss in Dallass? I mean you don't like our kind of
    music?  And I'm certainly not gonna sleep on your couch like some other
    people. 8))))
    
           Friz
    

    }}                 -< Would you set us up in your house? >-

    Uh, no.  Besides, I don't think you'd enjoy that at all.  Just ask Rob.
    
    }} Mob...no, but something close to that. 8)
    
    Hmmm, should I let my imagination run wild?
    
    }} I'm used to cold...it's no big deal. What a bunch of wimps in here. 8)
    
    Nothing wimpy hating cold weather...  I bet you're a wimp when it comes
    to 105 degree heat too...  8-P
    
    }} What would we miss in Dallass? 
    
    Why, you'd miss me.  That, in and of itself, is enough.  ;)
    
    }} I mean you don't like our kind of music?  
    
    Who says?  I like music with emotion and originality.
    
    }} And I'm certainly not gonna sleep on your couch like some other 
    }} people. 8))))
    
    Don't worry the offer isn't even there!
    
    ;pril

    
    >> Who says?  I like music with emotion and originality.
    
    	that rules out Frizzy....   ;')
    
    I'll sleep on yer couch!
    
    

    Im already sleepin on the couch...so I might as well sleep on yer
    couch!
    
    
    :*)
    

    Rut roh, sounds like Bob's in the doghouse!
    
>     Besides the Prince jokes galore...I'm really excited!!!!!
    
    Actually a lotta cool bands have come out of Minneapolis, Husker Du,
    The Replacements, etc.  It's not just Prince (who BTW, is absolutely
    brilliant, IMHO).
    
>       The whole point is ANYTHING(besides Seattle) 8) is better than HERE!
 
    Seattle had Queensryche, I wouldn't be so quick to slam on it.  But
    you're right, just about anywhere is better then here!
    
    gh (who sez, try Pueblo!)

    ........like jumping
    
    
    
    :*)

    Speakin of Couches........Na,Never_Mind.
    
    Friz..I take it you and your Cronnies live lite.
    As in not ownin(Too_Much Material Pose_estion).
    I think thats great for the young Musicians who stick together and
    are willin to travel around.If just one Guy/Gal has alot of stuff
    to Move form City_to_City it's gonna cause big problems.Un_Less
    of course that person decides to sell it along the way.
    
       Crazy_I_hear_That_Vince_Neil_Is_Lookin_For_A_Young_Group_Al  :-)

    
    
    ive been doing a fair amount of travel of late, and i have to say, the
    WORST band i've seen any place else is better than 99% of the bands in
    this area.  I'm absolutely amazed and the crap quality of the majority
    of new england's bands.  
    
    btw 'pril, your couch wasn't THAT bad!!  i think the big problem was
    lack of transportation :').  I certainly appreciated you letting me
    sleep there.  btw, return my phone calls sometime :').
    

    -1
    
    btw, he's talking about Phil's band there...  (right rob?)  They broke
    up anyway...  8(
    
    If you wouldn't call so late, I'd probably pick up the phone!  Sorry,
    I'll call ya real soon.  Are you in cali or what _dude_...?
    
    'pril

    Crazy Al-We all live kinda light except for our musical gear! 8)
    
     I think it's really cool that we're all willing to relocate to a
    better place. Even my roommate is going.....
      I think I wouldv'e gone without them if they didn't wanna go because
    I'm really sick of this scene but I'm hard that they're going with.
    
          The only thing I'm gonna miss from DEC IS THE H_M file!
    I was bummin' the two weeks I was off.....
    
                  Friz
    

    
    actually i wasn't talking about phil's band when i wrote it, but yes,
    they were great.  why did they break up?  if they ever put out an
    album, it would have been like getting a bonus slayer album!!  :').  i
    so love slayer...  i'm in cal in a week and a half.  still sitting here
    in lovely new england, with the last few days of nice weather we will
    probably see, with no bike :'(.

    rob,
    
    It was a classic case of the "our guitarist can't get his shite together"
    syndrome.            
    
    You remember Mark...?  ;)
    
    'pril

    
    i remember the bass player couldnt get his
    shit together.... so why didnt they just find a new guitarist?
    

    There's a lot more to it...the bass player has the potential to learn,
    Mark just has no potential.  Also, Gary is one of the biggest a$$holes
    in the world (hey! he's right up there with you!! ;)...so Phil just
    decided to quit altogether...Mark, Tony, and Craig are still gonna jam
    together though... <

    
    they ever do their demo?
    
    

    I can't wait for 20 below weather and a chance to see the Minnesota 
    state bird:The Misquito. 8)
    
       Friz
    

    Looks like Wendy-O-Spell is working for Friz already !!
               
    jc

    Yup, he's really hummin along in place of our dearest WENDY*O

    I Am WenDy*O...(SO THAIR!#@&^#@8*)
    
             Friz*O
    

>    I can't wait for 20 below weather and a chance to see the Minnesota 
>    state bird:The Misquito. 8)
    
    The Mosquito?  Is Kyle getting an Mp-1?
                                           
    ;^)
    
    gh

    Is Coop moving to MN?

    What's an MP-1?  
    
     BTW-Today is Kyle's birthday that is also shared by a famous guitar
    player....Name him. (Greg...You don't get to answer)
    
     Friz
    

    Joe Perry's bday was Sept 10th!
    ;')

    Hum? Was it Slim Whitman's B-DAY? The shredder I was thinking was
    George Lynch!
    
            Friz
    

    Oh yeah ... Mr. Scary turned a SCARY 38 years old!!

    I was cleaning out my tape collection last night and found an PB tape. 
    Is there anyone that didn't get one that would be interested in hearing
    it?

    I've got a very poor recording of PB and I don't care!
    
    
                                                    staynz

I'll take it - Friz promised me one and never came through.

Tim

    Since I wasn't in here from way back when I have question that maybe
    someone could answer..... I was watching some show that mentioned a
    kinda cult hit video called Paris is Burning, is that where Friz and
    them got the name and if so what's it about?
                                                Rat

    >Since I wasn't in here from way back when I have question that maybe
    >someone could answer..... I was watching some show that mentioned a
    >kinda cult hit video called Paris is Burning, is that where Friz and
    >them got the name and if so what's it about?
    
    Paris is Burning is a film, more or less, about the ORIGIN of "Vogue"
    dancing -- as exhibited by the drag queens and cross-dressers of the
    gay world in disco's.  Yes, this is where Allen and the boys got the 
    name for their band -- the big lot of nancy blouses!

    Thanks for the low down. So you recommending the flick?
    
>    name for their band -- the big lot of nancy blouses!
    
 I'm sure you meant to add a smiley face to that now didn't you?
    
    
                                                      :)
                                                      Rat

    
    
     Speaking of that, a couple of weeks ago I heard an ad on the radio
    here in Colo for a band that was either playing here in the Springs
    or Denver, and their name was Salem Burning.
    
                                                 mike
    

    Maybe we should go and check them out..... maybe Friz never left and
    he's pulling an Elvis thing! :)
                                   Rat

    
    thought he said the band was named after victoria paris.
    

    RE: Rat
    
    I don't really recommend the flick == it's ok as a cult film.
    
    
    RE: Rob
    
    Victoria Paris with a yeast infection?

    Didn't the Frizzer name the band after the old Dokken tune ?

Thats Paris IS Burning (The Dokken toon).  (Damn, I miss that band).
:-(

Friz told me the band  was named after a soft-core smut film...Is
this the one you are talking about Buck??

jc

    
>            The band was name after a normal PORNO.
>    Paris Burning with Victorria Paris.....Very HOT!
>                       Frizkid
 
		From back a way, it wasn't named after 'Paris is Burning'
		diffferent movie I guess...

							-Seth   

    
    Thank you, thank you.  Gifts can either be cash or gold bullion.
    

    Friz told me the name of the movie they took the name from was "Paris
    Burning", just like the band name.  Apparently it was a porno film.  He
    also said the band already had that name before he joined.
    
    Speaking of Friz, anyone heard from him since he moved?
    
    gh

    }} Speaking of Friz, anyone heard from him since he moved?
    
    Got a Christmas card from him...

    
    
    	RE: pril
    
    	Me too... and it was written in the same style as his notes.
    	(8
    
    	tigg~~~

    That slime didn't even send me one!
    
    gh

    
    
    Me neither! And I sent him one!
    
    

    Haha!  He loves me and Tigga more!!  8-P
    
    You know how terrible he was at replying to mail and stuff, what makes
    you think he's any different now that he's in Minnesota guys???  
    
    'pril

    
    Hey guys, you is missing a vital selection criterea - the Prillster and
    the Tiggster are babes, you ain't!!!!!

    I got a card -- so nah!

    
    Bastard!
    
    ;')
    
    

>   <<< Note 794.266 by POWDML::BUCKLEY "Sacred Hearts may take the pain.." >>>
>    I got a card -- so nah!
		looks like Tony's theory was right after all!

    2-69 dude

    >                -< Nacy blouse Buckmeister! hehehe ;^) >-
    
    You calling ME a Nancy (spelt correctly) Blouse??  You wanna be the
    Pot or the Kettle?
    
    
    RE: 'pril
    
    Ahhhh -- the Pril of old...

    
>    You calling ME a Nancy (spelt correctly) Blouse??  You wanna be the
>    Pot or the Kettle?
	neither get someone else to play your little buttercup! ;)


						-Seth   

>    You know how terrible he was at replying to mail and stuff, what makes
>    you think he's any different now that he's in Minnesota guys???  
    
    He always replied to my mail promptly...
    
    gh

    
    
     Don't feel bad Greg, he didn't send me one either!
    
                                                             mike
    

    Friz will be Friz!  I think inconsistency was his strongest trait...
    
    ;)

	Hey 'Pril, don't you mean

	*SOMETIMES* inconsistency is his strongest trait...  ;^)
    

    That's right, his inconsistency was very consistent.

    gh

    Oh quit yer moanin' he didn't even mention me in his farewell note and
    you didn't hear me complainin..... but since I'm here, what a
    low-down,dirty,.....;-)
                           Rat

    Hey I heard a vicious rumor this morning that the Friz kid is actually
    moved back to town....any truth to this?
                                            Rat

    No way!?  Where'd you hear that?
    
    gh

    if he's back in town he better show face when I hit their or he's dead
    meat!!
    
    
                                                staynz

    Swear to god someone just this morning said they saw him a couple weeks
    ago (?) and that he's back to stay........
    
    It just dawned on me I was drunk at the time and they coulda been trying
    to yank my chain .....Nope I think they were serious! :^}

    try and find out for sure,he's been too long without abuse!! 8)
    
    
                                                staynz

    Okay here's scoop..... someone I work with said he talked to the
    roommate of the lead singer of the band, 'Jamie', who said Friz was
    back.....so this looks like a case of hersay of hersay.....

    Not 'Jamie' Lane ?

    Actually "Jamie" in Friz's old band was one of the guitar players, not
    the singer.  The last singer they had was "Jonas".  Both Jonas and
    Jaime had left the band several months before Friz moved to Minn.
    
    gh

    No, no, you guys got it all wrong.  You see, they was talking about
    me being back in this notesfile cruisin' lookin' for old friends, see?
    
    Jmystr Making_his_semi_annual_visit

    So, is this poseur dude back or what???!!!

    No J...   Go back to sleep dood.  :-)

    
    still have that beretta thang?

    It's probably in the shop...
    :-)

    
    
    yeah, i actually still have my license (was a close one last week
    though :')).

    So, anyone know whatz up with Penis Burning?

    
    think the clinic might be able to help you with that problem....