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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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569.0. "Primus" by FASDER::AHERB (Al is the *first* name) Sun May 12 1991 15:05

    Anybody here listen to Primus?
    
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569.1DUCK::PERKINSPPositive Mental OctopusMon May 13 1991 06:294
    I picked up their album at the weekend but I haven't had an opportunity
    to listen to ityet.
    
    Flip
569.2VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHallowed be my nameMon May 13 1991 10:422
    
    Been hearing alot about them over Usenet...
569.3YODA::MCCARRONFishy Swa SkaMon May 13 1991 13:1410
    
    
    	I saw them open for 24-7 Spyz awhile ago.  They were pretty cool
    but could use a full-time singer.  
    	
    	What's the name of their latest release?.... something like "Fizzle
    Fry"?  
    
    
    Paul
569.4DUCK::PERKINSPPositive Mental OctopusMon May 13 1991 13:164
    
    Yes, Frizzle Fry.
    
    Flip
569.5wrongFASDER::AHERBAl is the *first* nameTue May 14 1991 00:163
    Its sailing the sea of cheese.. I saw the video for Jerry is a race car
    driver. I liked it.
    
569.6DUCK::PERKINSPPositive Mental OctopusTue May 14 1991 05:504
    
    We're talking about the name of the album...
    
    8^)
569.7??FASDER::AHERBAl is the *first* nameWed May 15 1991 01:222
    So was I?
    
569.8DUCK::PERKINSPPositive Mental OctopusWed May 15 1991 11:007
569.9KIRKTN::IGOLDIELive,thrive and surviveWed Jul 17 1991 20:409
    
    I've just heard "Jerry is a race car driver",very strange!!but the
    funny thing is,the song is almost hypnotic.The off the wall bass
    playing,the singing and the lyrics.I wouldn't be suprised if there was
    subliminal messages to go and kill your parents as the song was so
    weird....is the rest of the album like this??
    
    
                                   Staynz
569.10SONATA::SFESSLERTrademark Sly SmileMon Jul 22 1991 12:364
    Something, something, "White Collar Dweebies," yada, yada was on the Z-Rock
    Top 50 last night.  Wicked weird s***.
    
    Fess 
569.11Cool Stuff!GOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Fri Oct 11 1991 20:3413
    On Paul McCarron's recommendation, I picked up an older Primus release
    called "Suck On This" today.  It's a live recording done back in '89
    apparently between the Frizzle Fry album and Sailing the Seas of Cheese
    (I haven't heard either of these).  
    
    It's punk/funk/rock kind of music mixture.  I guess it probably fits
    more under the "alternative" classification then "metal" but it's real
    interesting!  The bass playing is absolutely incredible!
    
    Hey Paul, you said a few notes back that they needed a full time
    singer?  Why?  I think they sound fine the way they are.
    
    gh
569.12"We're Primus... and we s*ck."PROXY::MCCARRONItain'twhereyafrom,itzwhereyaat!Mon Oct 14 1991 13:4712
    
    
    	
    	Re: Les' voice
    
    	I guess I should update that... back then I thought Les' singing
    style was pretty horrible and bizarre... now it's just bizarre. 8^)
    
    	The more I listen the more I like it.  It does kinda fit the band.
                                                    
    	
    Paul
569.13Yeah, weird voiceGOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Mon Oct 14 1991 16:117
    I'd agree with that, he's got a pretty odd sounding voice.  Very
    different and unusual.  I like it in the context of their music.  It's
    a weird frequency range that nothing else is playing it so it sticks
    out like a sore thumb.  Perhaps that's what struck you as bizarre about
    it.
    
    gh
569.14GAMGEE::ROBRIts not easy bein' cheezy...Mon Oct 14 1991 19:484
    
    I love these guys...  and I don't know why!!  :')
    
    
569.15 Shrug....Shrug.....Just hate em'?COMET::FRISBYAExposed?....It was never hiddenMon Oct 14 1991 20:175
    
    
    I hate these guys...  and I don't know why!!  :'|
    
                   
569.16let us instigate!GAMGEE::ROBRIts not easy bein' cheezy...Tue Oct 15 1991 01:194
    
    cause you're a poseur?  :')
    
    
569.17Sailing the sea of cheese=Dropped band.COMET::FRISBYAExposed?....It was never hiddenTue Oct 15 1991 10:568
       
    
       I'm not a poseur...Your the one with the cheezy p_n!  8)!
    
                      Frizkid
    
    
                      
569.18MASALA::IGOLDIETue Oct 15 1991 10:598
    from what I've heard of this band they seem to be really good.The bass
    player is very good and the lyrics are different and interesting.Vocals
    are a iffy but not everyone has to sing like they gargle broken glass.
    
    
    
    
                                                 Staynz
569.19I don't like it!GOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Tue Oct 15 1991 13:083
>    cause you're a poseur?  :')
    
    Naw...  IT'S 'CAUSE HE'S NEVER *HEARD* IT!
569.20Jerry was racecar driver=hypnotic sleep!COMET::FRISBYAExposed?....It was never hiddenTue Oct 15 1991 14:186
       I've heard them..........
    
                 SO SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!
    
                             8) Frizkid
    
569.21..FASDER::AHERBAl is the *first* nameSun Oct 27 1991 02:512
    Is glam rock the only thing you listen to?
    
569.22VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKUncongressional Mosh!Sun Oct 27 1991 09:514
    
    re: .21
    
    Yep, he doesn't have an open mind like the rest of us. Foolish mortal.
569.23GAMGEE::ROBRSailing the seas of cheeze...Sun Oct 27 1991 16:096
    
    wel he HAS put in TNT and wasp one liners... andbody who listens to TNT
    can't be HALF bad :').  we just need to take away all his poseur
    albums.
    
    
569.24SUBURB::COOKSGot sex?Forget the Rock n RollMon Oct 28 1991 10:307
    All posuers are the same. My mate is striktly a posuer (snakeskin
    boots,eye-liner,lipstick,spikey hair),and if it ain`t "oooh,baby,yeah
    i wanna rock you,sleez queen of the night - WOOOh!" - then he don`t
    want to know.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    
569.25PROXY::MCCARRONItain'twhereyafrom,itzwhereyaat!Tue Nov 19 1991 12:1013
    
    
    	Primus opened for Fishbone last night at the Orpheum and I must
    say Primus s*cked!!!.... if ya know what I mean. 8^) 8^)
    
    	Les Claypool is living proof that acting goofy is indeed cool. 
    
    	BTW, Fishbone kicked major booty too!  Like that surprises anyone.
    8^)
    	
    
    Paul
       
569.26GAMGEE::ROBRSailing the seas of cheeze...Tue Nov 19 1991 22:284
    
    wait a sec, were they cool or did they blow???  (primus that is...)
    
    
569.27I'd like to see 'em!GOES11::G_HOUSETommy The CatWed Nov 20 1991 03:346
    Apparently they were cool.  Primus has this thing about putting
    themselves down.
    
    You know "We're Primus and we suck"...
    
    gh
569.28PROXY::MCCARRONItain'twhereyafrom,itzwhereyaat!Wed Nov 20 1991 12:0613
                                      
    
    	Re: Rob
    
    	Like Greg mentioned, it's sort of a running joke they have going.
    I read an interview with Les and he was saying how it works out for the
    band.  Kinda hard to get a bad review. 8^)
    
    	It's pretty funny hearing a few thousand people screaming "Primus
    sucks!" trying to get the band back for an encore. 8^)
    
    
    Paul
569.29Primus spotted on the Year in RockGOES11::G_HOUSETommy The CatTue Dec 31 1991 19:477
    I noticed on MTV's Year in Rock show last weekend that they showed
    footage from Primus's song "John The Fisherman".  That's a cool song, I
    didn't realize there was a video for it.  
    
    Guess *I'll* never get to see it, not mainstream enough for MTV...
    
    gh
569.30Time for a Cherry Hill party, Robin!CAVLRY::BUCKRe-build the Racing Whippets!Wed Jan 01 1992 16:191
    Primus RULZ!
569.31;')KIDVAX::CESCOBARLiving My Life On Borrowed TimeWed Jan 01 1992 16:302
    
    primus droolz
569.328^)CAVLRY::BUCKRe-build the Racing Whippets!Wed Jan 01 1992 17:324
    I agree with Greg. 8)
    
    
    Oh yeah I know Crisco, Metallica is ten times better...gimme a break.
569.33GAMGEE::ROBRIt's man against machine...Thu Jan 02 1992 00:476
    
    okay, i'll call sue now!  
    
    - rob, still waiting to see buck's new truck -
    
    
569.34GAMGEE::ROBRIt's man against machine...Thu Jan 02 1992 00:484
    
    no answer...
    
    
569.35Tommy the dog.........COMET::FRISBYAI'll leave the morning afterThu Jan 02 1992 10:514
    Primus SUCKS and I mean that most sincerly.........8)
    
              Frizkid
    
569.36They even agreeGOES11::G_HOUSETommy The CatFri Jan 03 1992 14:495
>    Primus SUCKS 
    
    YEAH!  Isn't it great?
    
    gh
569.37No one would know I was serious...It'd be great!COMET::FRISBYAI'll leave the morning afterMon Jan 06 1992 11:328
    Y'know ......I'd like to goto one of their concerts.
    
     Provided I didn't have to PAY to see them....
    
     Just so I could join in and SCREAM "Primus SUCKS!"
    
         Frizkid
    
569.38The older stuff's betterGOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itTue Jan 28 1992 19:528
    I just got "Sailing the Seas of Cheese" at lunchtime today and am
    listening to it as I type this.  My initial impression is that it's not
    as good as "Suck On This".  I like the version of Tommy The Cat on that
    one MUCH better (but it's still a killer song on this one).
    
    I even caught Friz singin it at lunch...  8-o
    
    gh
569.39DPDMAI::THRELFALLCHING-A-LINGA !Tue Jan 28 1992 20:134
    Well blow me down!  I would have thought it'd be the other way around!
    
    
    		Primus Sucks! 8)
569.40GOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itTue Jan 28 1992 20:376
    Yeah, I was a little surprised too.  "Suck On This" kicks major booty!
    
    Seems like a lot of the stuff on Seas.. is kind of monotonous.  If this
    is all you've ever heard, you're in for a treat with Suck...
    
    gh
569.41On your toes boy!COMET::FRISBYANo Pun IntendedTue Jan 28 1992 21:5510
    Greg: I gotta keep you on your toes!!! Cat call....No pun intended.
    
                     Say baby do you wanna lay down with me?
     Say baby do you wanna lay down by my side?
                   Say baby!
    
    April':I'll blow you down ANYTIME! 8)
    
                   Frizkid
    
569.42Say baba, say babAAAAAAAAA!GOES11::G_HOUSENow I'm down in itTue Jan 28 1992 22:071
    
569.43POWDML::BUCKLEYLet the light surroundedMon Jan 11 1993 12:171
    I wonder if Primus is still the rage in Cherry Hill?
569.44GOES11::G_HOUSESon of SpamWed May 12 1993 19:319
    I recently saw Primus's new album in a store.  Has anyone here gotten
    it yet?  What do you think?
    
    I have several of theirs and the only one that really blows me away is
    "Suck On This", the live one.  Seas of Cheese is overprocessed, Frizzle
    Fry is too harsh and busy sounding (but better then Seas...), Misc.
    Debris (EP) is all covers and mostly noise.
    
    gh
569.45I got the new ...COMET::VERMETTECThe guy with the Rush hat ... Sat May 22 1993 22:586
    I've got it. It's called Pork Soda. I like it but I liked Seas too. It
    is more mellower sonically. Les has toned down the bass but it is good
    stuff anyway.
    It has 16 tracks, if I remember correctly.
    
    Chris Vermette
569.46GOES11::G_HOUSESon of SpamSun May 23 1993 22:508
    Is is real "produced" like Seas?  Or is it just real cluttered and
    cacophonous like Frizzle Fry?
    
    My favorite Primus album is Suck on This, which was recorded live, and
    therefore had to be stripped to the bone.  It's fantastic, most of the
    others are just too much.
    
    gh
569.47COMET::VERMETTECThe guy with the Rush hat ... Sun May 30 1993 04:0714
    To my untrained ear. I would say yes.
    
    oh yea : re: -1
    
    I'vew listened to it more and like the more I listen to it.
    Try to undersdtand that one ....
    
    Chris " I wonder If I Pull The Pud To Much (Ha HA HA)" Vermette
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    That just opened me too a lot of s**t 
569.48..it just hurt my head! 8)KURMA::IGOLDIEDope for gunsSun Oct 10 1993 18:5310
    
    I caught the video to their new single "Mr.Cringle" and it's very.very
    weird@!It's basically a guy in a pig suit,playing the double bass while
    acrobats and about 100 other things are going on in the back
    ground.Very..*very* strange! I watched it with a friend who said he
    couldn't really call it shite as he didn't understand it properly and
    even though it was very bizarre it was very watchable.
    
    
    					ian
569.49BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughSat Nov 20 1993 08:528
    
    	I just finished listening to "Sailing the Seas of Cheese", and
    	all I can say is that these guys SUCK.
    
    	The bass guitar is the best part of the band, but it's still
    	not enough to save them.
    
    							GTI
569.50KURMA::IGOLDIEDriving Buicks to the moonSat Nov 20 1993 09:347
    I've got it too and it was for one song "Tommy the cat",the rest is way
    out there and too much for me.About the only thing else I liked about
    it was the sampling they lifted from the series "the young ones" which
    made me laugh a bit!
    
    
    						ian
569.51KDX200::ROBRWith mint frosting...Sat Nov 20 1993 18:207
    
    tommy the cat and jerry was a racecar driver rulez!!!  yeah, these guys
    are rather abstract, you can either take it or leave it i guess.  they
    eventually sort of grow on you, like a fungus...  as musicians though,
    they definately FAR from suck!  these guys jam out...
    
    
569.52BUSY::SLABOUNTYBeing weird isn't enoughSat Nov 20 1993 18:235
    
    	I'll probably give it one more listen, but I really don't
    	think it'll get any better.
    
    							GTI
569.53COMET::VERMETTECConfusion will be my Epitaph ... Sun Nov 21 1993 07:2411
    I like the band a lot. But I ahve to agree with both of the recent
    arguements. they can jam (if it is any consolation - bass on the entire
    album is a six string fretless) and it needs to grow on you, but I do
    also refer to them as an obnoxious band to listen to. 
    
    I like Sailing the Seas of Cheese the best.
    
    just my pesos worth
    
    chris " Here they come, Here they come ..." Vermette
    
569.54Jammin!GOES11::HOUSEYou sick little monkey!Mon Nov 29 1993 13:4911
    Yes, I can see how some people would find Primus to be irritating, but
    personally, I like it.
    
    FWIW, I haven't heard "Pork Soda", but of the other albums, I consider
    "Sailing the Seas of Cheese" to be the worst of the bunch.  It's way
    overproduced, overeffected, and over-overdubbed and sounds like mush. 
    I much prefer the stripped down sound they had on "Suck on This", their
    first album (recorded live).  The version of "Tommy The Cat" on that
    one rips the "Seas of Cheese" version to shreds.
    
    Greg
569.55I'll give it a try ...COMET::VERMETTECConfusion will be my Epitaph ... Tue Nov 30 1993 15:437
    re: -1 
    I can't say that I've heard that one. I have fizzle fry an wasn't to
    impressed with the sound. Maybe I'll give it another try tonight and
    see if I feel the same.
    
    Until tomorrow,
    Chris
569.56GOES11::HOUSEYou sick little monkey!Tue Nov 30 1993 17:377
    re: Chris
    
    I like Frizzle Fry quite a bit better then Seas of Cheese, but it can
    still get annoying at times.  The studio albums I've heard just don't
    do these guys justice, IMHO.
    
    Greg
569.57American Life...PATE::SCHIAVONEWPOD_why Sid diedWed Dec 01 1993 08:349
>    still get annoying at times.  The studio albums I've heard just don't
>    do these guys justice, IMHO.
    

	AGREED, I saw these guys with Tad after the release of StSoC and
	they rooled on stage.  LA all the way... Great rhythm...the guitarist
	used to play for a death metal band, but I can't recall who...

	/Cap'n Quad
569.58GOES11::HOUSEYou sick little monkey!Wed Dec 01 1993 13:1511
>    the guitarist used to play for a death metal band, but I can't recall
>    who...
 
    His name's Larry LaLonde (not sure of the spelling on the last name). 
    I don't remember the name of the death band he played with, but
    I do recall thinking I never heard of 'em when I read it once.  I read
    an interview with him once and he commented that the death metal thing
    got stale for him real fast and felt immature (or something to that
    effect).
    
    gh
569.59okay...COMET::VERMETTECConfusion will be my Epitaph ... Thu Dec 02 1993 15:469
>    I like Frizzle Fry quite a bit better then Seas of Cheese, but it can
>    still get annoying at times.  The studio albums I've heard just don't
>    do these guys justice, IMHO.
    
    Okay, I have yet to hear them live and in Concert. So I guess can
    understand that one.
    
    Chris
    
569.60Definitely good liveGOES11::HOUSEYou sick little monkey!Thu Dec 02 1993 16:166
    I haven't actually seen 'em in person myself, but I do have "Suck On
    This", which was recorded live, and I've seen clips of them playing on
    TV a couple of times.  (They ripped a killer groove on "Jerry Is A Race
    Car Driver" on some MTV show just a week or two ago!)
    
    Greg
569.61COMET::VERMETTECConfusion will be my Epitaph ... Sat Dec 04 1993 05:589
    They seemed to be a live oriented band. The "energy" in the songs and
    that bass seemed to indicate that they would have a lot more fun live
    than just recording.
    
    I hear they put ona hell of a show!
    
    Chris
    
    
569.62KURMA::IGOLDIEBite the hand that feeds you...!Sun Dec 05 1993 04:236
    larry Lawhatshisface was in a band called "The Possessed" that were 
    critically acclaimed over here in Europe.I only heard one song and
    thought it to be pretty aweful!
    
    
    						ian
569.63WONDER::REILLYSean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983Mon Feb 21 1994 09:0326
    
    You know, every once in a while I get caught ingoring a band until very
    late in the game.  I've seen a lot of print and mention of Primus, but
    I never heard anything or made an effort to.
    
    But now, the King Crimson internet distribution list is abuzz with
    lots of talk about the similarities between these two bands.  Huh?
    King Crimson?  One of the best that EVER were!
    
    And I hear they do a cover of KC's "Thela Hun Gingeet" on tour!  Now
    any band with the taste to cover that is something to check out in my
    book...
    
    So, now with a bunch of CD's out, I don't know where to start.  Experts?
    
    Btw,
    
    > Note 569.54 
    > 
    > "Sailing the Seas of Cheese" to be the worst of the bunch.  It's way
    > overproduced, overeffected, and over-overdubbed and sounds like mush. 
    
    is exactly the kind of stuff people used to say about my favorite
    Crimson albums!
    
    - Sean
569.64NEEPS::IRVINESobriety has it's own drawbacks!Mon Feb 21 1994 10:1616
    Sean - 
    
  > > "Sailing the Seas of Cheese" to be the worst of the bunch.  It's way
  > > overproduced, overeffected, and over-overdubbed and sounds like mush. 
    
  >  is exactly the kind of stuff people used to say about my favorite
  >  Crimson albums!
    
    Maybe thats the reason for the lack of info in here... 8*)
    
    Bonzo
    
    (Have one King Crimson album "In The Court Of The Crimson King", and
    have to say it makes an excellent frisbee!  I ain't seen that much
    plastic since the last VW car I drove!!!)
    
569.65GOES11::HOUSELike a cat caught in a vacuumMon Feb 21 1994 11:4236
    re: Sean
    
    I'm a big fan of both bands and never really noticed much similarity
    myself.
    
>    And I hear they do a cover of KC's "Thela Hun Gingeet" on tour!  Now
>    any band with the taste to cover that is something to check out in my
>    book...
    
    I agree, that's a killer song!  I didn't know Les and the boys were
    covering that one.
    
>    So, now with a bunch of CD's out, I don't know where to start.  Experts?
    
    My consistant advice on the place to start with Primus is their first
    album, "Suck On This".  It's live, it's raw, and it captures the
    essence of the band.  
        
>    > Note 569.54 
>    > 
>    > "Sailing the Seas of Cheese" to be the worst of the bunch.  It's way
>    > overproduced, overeffected, and over-overdubbed and sounds like mush. 
>    
>    is exactly the kind of stuff people used to say about my favorite
>    Crimson albums!
    
    Well..I also happen to love King Crimson (all incarnations).  I still
    think "Seas of Cheese" blows compared to the other Primus albums. 
    But..it's still an interesting album.  I just wouldn't start my tour of
    the band with that one.  I haven't heard "Pork Soda" (their most
    recent) in it's entirity, but what I've heard sounds quite a bit
    better.  (Although it'd be hard to live without "Jerry Is A Racecar
    Driver")
    
    Greg 
            
569.66BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Thu Mar 03 1994 15:297
    
    	I got "Pork Soda" the other day ... still not overly impressed
    	with these guys.
    
    	Yes, they jam ... but it's not GOOD jamming, IMO.
    
    							GTI
569.67WONDER::REILLYSean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983Tue May 10 1994 19:3622
    
    Well, I just picked up my first.  Seemed to be strong for and against
    on "Sailing the Seas Of Chese", but I just felt like getting that one
    first for some reason.  
    
    I *really* like this!!!!
    
    First off, I'm surprised there's guys doin' stuff like this and its 
    getting bought - not mainstream at all.  I will admit, it takes a few
    solid listens to get in the groove.  I'm like that mostly anyway with
    any new stuff.  The first listen I was like "Wow, that was wierd, I
    wonder if I liked it?"  :^)  By the third time, I realized I was
    wicked looking forward to coming home and slapping this on.
    
    I have to say I really do see a similarity between them and King
    Crimson.  Not the lyrics or the bass so much (they are a bass-y band,
    aren't they), but the guitar is often very "Larks Tounge - Part 2-ish"
    or "Red"ish, that "Starless" period of Fripp's playing.
    
    A great buy!
    
    - Sean
569.68WONDER::REILLYSean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983Mon Nov 07 1994 13:5017
569.69GOES11::HOUSEHow could I have been so blind?Mon Nov 07 1994 14:1513
    Sean,
    
    Remember that "Suck On This" was their FIRST album.  It's not lame
    versions of stuff they'd released before, these are the original
    versions of these songs.  It's got stuff from Frizzle Fry and Seas Of
    Cheese and some other stuff.  These guys are great in concert and this
    album really captures it, the essence of the band.
    
    Some bands are great live, and some are great in the studio, some are
    both.  Personally, I think Primus is better live, but that's just my
    personal opinion.
    
    Greg
569.70WONDER::REILLYSean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983Mon Nov 07 1994 17:3421
    
    > Some bands are great live, and some are great in the studio, some are
    > both.  Personally, I think Primus is better live, but that's just my
    > personal opinion.
    
    Oh I agree 100%!  And I believe that Primus are better live.  The
    question I have to ask is - Is there "betterness" captured on CD?
    
    For example:  way back when VCR's first became popular, this guy
    had a bootleg copy of "Star Wars."  It was an awful quality bootleg.
    For him, it didn't matter - he HAD a great movie and nobody else did.  
    For me, watching the great movie was ruined by the poor quality of the 
    recording.
    
    Likewise, there are a lot of bands I think are great live but whose
    greatness is overruled by the crappy way their live albums were recorded.
    I just rarely like the quality of live CD's.  No knock on them, and I'll 
    give this a try, but its just my experience.
    
    - Sean
    
569.71Try it...GOES11::HOUSEHow could I have been so blind?Mon Nov 07 1994 18:5813
    I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I really like that
    album.  I think it really does do them justice.  Naturally, your milage
    may vary.  Check it out!  
    
    FWIW, I'm not someone who goes around raving about live albums all the
    time.  I enjoy a lot of them, but I don't generally recommend them,
    especially over studio work, except to true fans because a lot of time
    the music suffers.  There are exceptions, like the old REO Speedwagon. 
    Their studio albums (mid 70s) were TOTAL yawners, but their live album
    had a lot of energy and sounded good.  Deep Purple's Made in Japan is a
    classic.
    
    Greg
569.72MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryMon May 15 1995 16:0321
    Primus. Cool.

    MTv runs some cool videos in the wee weekend hours, and this
    Saturday, they featured Primus. They interviewed Les, and
    played some great videos he selected.

    My personal fave is that song from Pork Soda, Mr... oh,
    damn, Mr. K(something). The video is totally effed up, and
    I mean that in the best possible way. (There's Les in a
    pig suit playing an upright bass as all manner of circus
    character carry on in the background.) If anyone ever sees
    a Primus video collection in their travels, particularly
    if that video is on it, please point me toward it.

    There's a new album coming out soon (or maybe it's already
    out... I'll be scoping out the record stores).

    Primus is cool.

    -b
569.73WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Mon May 15 1995 22:2114
    
    I thought I heard a new song by Primus ("Deeper and deeper?", something
    "deep?") on WBCN, but hadn't heard of a new CD, and plus I thought 
    Sausage was Les's new band - I guess it's just his side project (how
    is this CD, by the way???).
    
    Anyway, the song cranked.
    
    I've got everything but "Suck On This" (I'm *getting* it - PROMISE!),
    and really really like these guys.
    
    I wish they were opening for King Crimson when I see them June 2!
    
    - Sean
569.74MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryTue May 16 1995 12:207
    
    Sean,
    
    I'll be at the June 2 KC show as well... Orpheum Theater, Row 17,
    left side (I think).
    
    -b
569.75WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Tue May 16 1995 12:366
    
    Good seats - I'm jealous!  I waited for the Providence show, but then
    Philly stole the date.  D'oh!  So now I'm in the balcony at the
    Orpheum, but at least I'm in.  Haven't seen 'em since "Discipline!"
    
    - Sean
569.76Primus "sucks!"WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Thu Jun 08 1995 12:4510
    
    Rolling Stone ad says "June 6 - New Album"
    
    So it must be out - gotta pick this up.
    
    I like the ad's tag line:
    
    "If you didn't like Primus before.....
            You Probably still wont!"
    
569.77MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryThu Jun 08 1995 12:554
    
    At last, something to _live_ for! :-)
    
    -b
569.78BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Thu Jun 08 1995 13:119
    
    	Yeah, didn't you see my recent entry in here somewhere?
    
    	"Tales from the Punchbowl".  It doesn't suck as much as their
    	other stuff does.  8^)  These guys are very strange.
    
    	I picked it up the other night when I was looking for the
    	new Ugly Kid Joe album.
    
569.79POWDML::BUCKLEYThu Jun 08 1995 13:281
    Primus ROOLZ
569.80MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryThu Jun 08 1995 13:359
    
    FWIW - I agree. Still on the lookout for a Primus video collection!
    If CDs could be worn out, Sailing the Seas of Cheese and Pork Soda
    would be toast by now!!
    
    I was just wearing my sourpuss when I made that previous crack. It's
    been a regular feature of my wardrobe of late... :-)
    
    -b
569.81WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Thu Jun 08 1995 14:325
    
    Frizzle Fry > Seas of Cheese > Pork Soda
    
    imo  :^)
    
569.82FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienThu Jun 08 1995 19:087
    
    the new song "big brown beaver" sounds remarkabley like "tommy the
    cat".
    
    
    
    						ian
569.83STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Jun 08 1995 23:3110
    
    "Frizzle Fry" is my personal favorite.  I love the country-type
    leads Larry does on the first single.
    
    If you get the chance to see 'em live this time around - do it!!
    They rule live.
    
    PRIMUS SUCKS,
    Kev --
    
569.84WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Fri Jun 09 1995 00:047
    
    > the new song "big brown beaver" sounds remarkabley like "tommy the
    > cat".
    
    You say that like it's a bad thing!  :^)
    
    - Sean
569.85FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienFri Jun 09 1995 00:548
    
    yes and no!I really like Tommy the cat and I suppose I like Big brown
    beaver but if if I had to listen to a whole concert like that I would
    be pissed off really quickly!
    
    
    
    						ian
569.86WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Thu Jun 22 1995 13:1011
    
    This *might* be my favorite Primus album so far.  I'm really
    getting into it, but we'll have to see after a lot of listens.
    
    Anyway, I don't think Wynona's BBB sounds like Tommy the Cat
    at all, really...
    
    These guys are just too cool.
    
    - Sean
    
569.87ICS::snobrd.pko.dec.com::whitmanThu Jun 22 1995 14:417


	I keep hearing that new tune and it's really growing on me.. I'd like
to hear the rest of the album...

Whit-
569.88FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienThu Jun 22 1995 20:176
    I caught the video to Wynona's BBB on sunday night's 120 minutes and
    though it to be completely "out there"..which is typical for Primus but
    very entertaining.
    
    
    						ian
569.89WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Thu Jun 29 1995 12:2111
    
    Well, the T&G announced 'em for Worcster on Aug. 1st., tickets on sale
    today.  I called TicketBastard and they said the sale is "on-delay."
    
    "'Till when?"  "Dunno.  Keep calling back."
    
    Love that *extra* service from my favorite company!
    
    Anybody else gonna try to go?
    
    - Sean
569.90MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryThu Jun 29 1995 13:244
    
    <-- Yeah! I'm in!
    
    -b
569.91POWDML::BUCKLEYYou ain't seen nuthin yetThu Jun 29 1995 17:171
    New date is August 4th.
569.92STRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Thu Jun 29 1995 22:356
    
    RE:  last few.
    
    Where in Worcester?
    
    
569.93WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Fri Jun 30 1995 00:083
    
    Where?  Last I was told over the phone - the Aud.
    
569.94Primus SucksSTRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Fri Jun 30 1995 00:124
    
    Don't miss Primus.
    
    
569.95WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Wed Jul 05 1995 11:316
    
    Anybody have any recent info on when/where and how to get tickets?  My
    last call to TicketMaster ended up with them telling me they aren't
    handling them now.  Is Aug. 4 right?  Are they at the AUD?
    
    - Sean
569.96MPGS::MARKEYThe bottom end of Liquid SanctuaryWed Jul 05 1995 12:0413
    
    I'm going too.... although the aud in Worcester is a sh***y place
    to see a show (horrible sound). Last show I saw there was the
    _first_ rock concert I ever went to... Marc Bolan and T-Rex
    with some unknown Canadian band called "Rush" as the opening
    act. Rush blew T-Rex off the stage, of course.
    
    And the first act on was a band called "Albatross", and in today's
    "what goes around, comes around" entry, it's very likely the
    lead singer of Albatross will be the front-man of "Liquid
    Sanctuary". Oh sorry, Primus...
    
    -b
569.97BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Wed Jul 05 1995 12:063
    
    	I was there once ... Stryper/Hurricane, 1987 I think.
    
569.98Maybe it was the building...HOZHED::FENNELLA cowboy's life is not for meWed Jul 05 1995 12:164
Saw the Black Crowes there a few years back and left because the sound was so
bad.  I think that was partly the fault of the B.C. soundman...

Tim
569.99Sound_Tain't_BAd_If_Yer_CloseWMOIS::MAZURKASon_of_A_Wicked_Good_TimeWed Jul 05 1995 12:276
    Sorry to get Off the Primus Subject But...
     Yes,The Aud is Old and Not_Built_fer_Sound_Quality,but Personally I've
    had Great_Times there..Crowes,Dylan,Bolan,Alice_Cooper.Mis the
    Unnattched.(Keep em Sepereated)
    
      Crazy_And_Yes_I_Graduated_From_High_School_Hell_On_That_Stage_Al
569.100WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Wed Jul 05 1995 13:543
    
    So how/where do I get tix???????
    
569.101BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Wed Jul 19 1995 11:548
    
    	There's an EP out ... released in '92, but I forgot what it was
    	called.  Looks to be unreleased tracks, and if I remember correctly
    	there's a cover song on it, although I forgot the name of that as
    	well.
    
    	Not much help, am I?
    
569.102PrImUsSTRATA::LUCHTIs it a passion or just a profession?Wed Jul 19 1995 22:4914
    
    RE: -1 , EP...
    
    "Miscellaneous Debris":  all covers on this one (5), including
    the Floyd number, "Have A Cigar".
    
    Over the weekend, I snagged the new one, listened through it a
    few times (in altered states), and LOVED it!!  Cool mix, Les'
    6-string sounds great and LOUD, especially with the lower 
    strings!!!  
    
    Kev --
    
    
569.103POLAR::RICHARDSONoooo mama, hooe mama...Wed May 01 1996 19:513
    Like I'm all impressed with this band.
    
    Very tight and very creative.
569.104EDWIN::HOOKERThu May 02 1996 13:145
    too many puuuuppiess....
    
    too many pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-pu-puppies.
    
    Shane, who loves Frizzle Fry
569.105SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienThu May 02 1996 13:197
    
    re-1
    
    er  ok!whatever you say?(backing away slowly avoiding eye contact) 8)
    
    
    					Ian
569.106SCASS1::BARBER_Ait's just a matter of opinionThu May 02 1996 20:001
    Primus sucks!
569.107POLAR::RICHARDSONoooo mama, hooe mama...Thu May 02 1996 20:241
    huh-uh.
569.108POLAR::LYLEby myself but not aloneFri May 03 1996 01:487
    
    Well, not completely.
    Primus has a few good tunes. Not many, but a few.
    (and NO. Wyonna's Big Brown Beaver is NOT one of them!!)
    
    Dave
    
569.109DAGWUD::FLATTERYFri May 03 1996 12:571
    re- 1....you're missing the point, child...!....;')
569.110:^)WONDER::REILLYSean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375Fri May 03 1996 15:206
    
    re. .108
    
    Fished in!!!!
    
    - Sean
569.111Virtual RobDREGS::BLICKSTEINThe moment is a masterpieceFri May 03 1996 15:4116
    > Primus sucks!
    
    Wow, I feel I should act as "virtual Rob" and say something nasty
    about your taste in music.
    
    ;-)
    
    I just know Rob thinks very highly of Primus.
    
    I also know that lots of folks think that Les Claypool is like
    next to god (i.e. Victor Wooten) when it comes to bass.
    
    Amazingly, I haven't heard anything of theirs.  Anyone care to loan
    me a "sampler"?
    
    	db
569.112DAGWUD::FLATTERYFri May 03 1996 16:073
    ....'fraid you missed the point too Dave....'pril, do you want to tell
    them or should I....or anyone else for that matter....???....buhler??..
    ....;").../k
569.113BUSY::SLABOUNTYBuzzword BingoFri May 03 1996 16:225
    
    	The answer is probably in here somewhere already.
    
    	All they have to do is look for it.
    
569.114SCASS1::BARBER_Ait's just a matter of opinionFri May 03 1996 18:511
    "We're Primus and we suck"
569.1158)SCASS1::BARBER_Ait's just a matter of opinionFri May 03 1996 19:048
    See p_n.  (It's from a Primus song)  I used to eat, sleep and breathe
    Primus.  Their new album isn't all that great IMO.  If you want some
    really good stuff, get Frizzle Fry or Suck on This...Sailing the Seas
    of Cheese is good, but definitely don't start out on Pork Soda.  It's
    a little watered down for me.  
    
    Dave, if you want to be a virtual Rob you'll have to do better than
    that!
569.116SCASS1::BARBER_Ait's just a matter of opinionFri May 03 1996 19:093
    And one more thing db, it is definitely worth the measly $10-15 to
    discover the diverse complexity and musical genius of Primus (Les
    Claypool).  However, if you're too a-scared, I can dub it for ya.  
569.117SCASS1::BARBER_Ait's just a matter of opinionFri May 03 1996 19:2817
    <<< Note 569.25 by PROXY::MCCARRON "Itain'twhereyafrom,itzwhereyaat!" >>>

    
    
    	Primus opened for Fishbone last night at the Orpheum and I must
    say Primus s*cked!!!.... if ya know what I mean. 8^) 8^)
    
    	Les Claypool is living proof that acting goofy is indeed cool. 
    
    	BTW, Fishbone kicked major booty too!  Like that surprises anyone.
    8^)
    	
    
    Paul
       

    
569.118Okay, I'll stop nowSCASS1::BARBER_Ait's just a matter of opinionFri May 03 1996 19:3010
           <<< Note 569.39 by DPDMAI::THRELFALL "CHING-A-LINGA !" >>>

    Well blow me down!  I would have thought it'd be the other way around!
    
    
    		Primus Sucks! 8)



    
569.119POLAR::RICHARDSONoooo mama, hooe mama...Fri May 03 1996 19:351
    Ok, I'm convinced.