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Conference napalm::heavy_metal

Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Thu May 05 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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27.0. "Holy Soldier" by BTOVT::BRONSON () Mon Jun 18 1990 12:47

    
    
               I listened to the tape at least 7 times this weekend and
      found that this tape grows on you.They may be a copy band,but they
      do it well.I like the first song on side 2..'when the rain comes
      down'.It seems that this band strikes me as a Heavy Metal christian
      band like Stryper.The basis for this may be in the lyrics they use.
      It won't stop me from playing the tape as I give them 3-4 stars out
      of 5 for this debut tape.
    
                           R.B.
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27.1They use a good formula...BTOVT::BRONSONMon Jun 18 1990 13:478
    
    
              The band clearly sounds like Dokken with minor changes.They
     use the patented guitar licks and vocals....I bought this tape from
     Strawberries under the 'new artists program'..trial play...They will
     give you credit if your not satisfied.
    
                             R.B.
27.2Who they are.....BTOVT::BRONSONMon Jun 18 1990 15:4726
    
              
                         Holy Soldier
    
           Steven Patrick   - Lead vocals
           Jamie Cramer     - Guitars
           Michael Cutting  - Guitars
           Terry Russell    - Drums
           Andy Robbins     - Bass
    
                         Produced by David Zaffiro
    
    
         Side 1 - Stranger
                  See no evil
                  The pain inside of me
                  Cry out for love
                  Tear down the walls
    
         Side 2 - When the reign comes down
                  Lies
                  Eyes of innocense
                  Love me
                  We are young,We are strong
    
    
27.3bad news, good newsUPWARD::HEISERultimate, underlyin', no denyin' motivationFri Sep 28 1990 18:066
    Steven Patrick, newlywed and new father, has left the lead vocal
    postion for Holy Soldier due to family and financial responsibilities. 
    Holy Soldier's lineup for its national fall tour will include new
    vocalist Eric Wayne, hand-picked by producer David Zaffiro.
    
    Mike
27.4Toooooo bad !BTOVT::BRONSONFri Sep 28 1990 18:574
    
       How does the new vocalist compare?I thought this band had promise!
    
                         R.B.
27.5October chartsPNO::HEISERultimate, underlyin', no denyin' motivationFri Sep 28 1990 19:105
    Don't know, haven't heard ANY of their stuff yet.  FWIW, their song
    "See No Evil" is #5 in Christian's top 25 Rock songs and their song
    "When the Reign Comes Down" is #2 in Christian's top 15 Metal songs.
    
    Mike
27.6They are good !BTOVT::BRONSONTue Oct 02 1990 15:278
    
      Give them a shot..I don't think you'll be disappointed.I am not
    into Christian Metal so to speak,but I think this band is great!
    
                  R.B.
    
     P.S. "When the Reign'" is one of the best on the tape....
    
27.7VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHad enough? Go Republican!Tue Oct 02 1990 15:354
    
    My singer saw them live, she said the drummer was really top notch.
    
    /prc
27.14PNO::HEISERIbanez: the axe built to blast!Mon Oct 29 1990 15:103
    So Skip, now that you're back, how were they?
    
    Curious_Mike
27.15lotsafunCSC32::B_TURNBAUGHMon Oct 29 1990 15:589
    
      Mike,
               They were really good!! Their music is progressive, which
    I like. The drummer was the best in the band IMHO. He was really hot
    $hit, and kept doing these incredible rolls with his double basses.
    
    I had a chance to talk with their new singer (Eric) for quite a while
    after our show and he was really nice and informative. Over all it
    went well and no problems with attitudes or egos.        S
27.16reprinted from CCM (the magazine)UPWARD::HEISERlet's get busy!Tue Oct 30 1990 21:027
    Holy Soldier requests help in getting its video, "See No Evil", some
    airplay on MTV.  Supporters can call (800) DIALMTV during request
    times; or write your request on a postcard and mail it to:
    
                                   MTV
                                   1515 Broadway, 24th floor
                                   N.Y., N.Y.  10036
27.17thumbs up!PNO::HEISERstand in the gapThu Nov 08 1990 15:077
    I wandered into one of the local bookstores yesterday to check out the
    demo tapes of some new releases.  I listened to one cut off of this
    band's tape, "When the Reign comes down".  
    
    I really liked their sound and will definitely pick this tape up.
    
    Mike
27.18You won't be disappointed!BTOVT::BRONSONThu Nov 08 1990 16:005
    
      The second side is definitely the best....It's been on my play list
    every weekend since I picked it up!
    
                     R.B.
27.19Myrrh does pretty good for their first metal bandPNO::HEISERlove inhalationWed Dec 12 1990 15:5919
    Well I picked this one up yesterday too.  While I don't like it as much
    as Mastedon's (due to my tastes I guess), it is still an excellent
    debut!
    
    Terry "The Animal" Russell is endorsed by Sabian and Rimshot.
    Guitarists Jamie Cramer and Andy Robbins are both endorsed by Ampeg,
    Westone, and Alvarez.
    
    I thought their blend of acoustics and electrics from hell were
    interesting.  I don't recall hearing anything similar before.  My
    favorites are "Stranger", "Tear Down the Walls", "When the Reign Comes
    Down", "Lies", and "We are Young, We Are Strong" on the metal side.
    "See No Evil" is also an interesting song.  Anyone see the video yet?
    "The Pain Inside of Me" is a pretty good metal ballad too!
    
    When I get my sampler mailed out, you guys will know what I'm talking
    about ;-)
    
    Mike
27.20gets better with every listenPNO::HEISERlove inhalationWed Dec 12 1990 18:528
    After a few times thru a new tape, I can concentrate on the lyrics.  I
    must say these guys are great writers for a metal band. ;-)
    The lyrics are just as good as the music!
    
    I sort of have a soft spot when it comes to the abortion issue (I love
    kids).  The lyrics to "See No Evil" really floored me!
    
    Mike
27.21BTOVT::BAGDY_MI'm the Lord of the WastelandsThu Dec 13 1990 10:0410
27.22updatePNO::HEISERhell is for wimpsTue Jan 08 1991 16:2911
    Eric Wayne, who many of us thought for sure would step in as the
    permanent replacement for Holy Soldier's vocal position (vacated by
    Steven Patrick last summer), has decided to stay in his own band -
    Seattle's Red Reign.  The band tenatively plans to hit the studio
    this month.  One possibility is recording with Steven Patrick and then
    looking for another touring replacement.  David Zaffiro will probably
    be the producer for this album as well.
    
    In other band news, guitarist Jamie Cramer got married recently. The
    ceremony was in Wyoming, where Michelle grew up.  Not far behind is
    drummer Terry Russell, who will be getting hitched in June.
27.23popular these days ;-)PNO::HEISERnews: 70 shopping days til no PNOFri Jan 18 1991 16:253
    I forgot to mention that these guys play Charvels.
    
    Mike
27.24JAMMIN FROM THE FIRSTCOMET::SEELEYWed Feb 20 1991 01:357
    I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO CHRISTIAN ROCK FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW AND
    USUALLY ON THE LOOK OUT FOR NEW STUFF.  AFTER LISTENING TO JUST A
    SHORT SAMPLE OF THIS FROM MY FRIENDS COPY, I INSTANTLY PURCHASED THE 
    CD AND PLAY IT EVERYTIME I'M IN A ROCKIN MOOD.  DEFINATELY GOOD 
    ROCKIN HEAVY METAL, BUT ITS GOT A GOOD MESSAGE BEHIND IT.  KINDA HARD
    TO BELIEVE, HUH?
    
27.25rockin' the desertPNO::HEISERwelcome to the TONE ZONEMon Feb 25 1991 20:275
    Holy Soldier has been receiving lots of mail from soldiers in Operation
    Desert Storm.  Apparently some of the soldiers are wearing Holy Soldier
    dog tags (the groups emblem) with their government issue tags.
    
    Mike
27.26XCUSME::JENNISONLove Letters In The SandTue Feb 26 1991 11:333
    Excellent, Mike do you have some their stuff ??? Wheres my tape ??? 8)
    
    SueJ
27.27UPWARD::HEISERwelcome to the TONE ZONETue Feb 26 1991 14:3611
>    Excellent, Mike do you have some their stuff ??? 
    
    SueJ, they only have 1 out so far.  They just went in the studio to
    record their second.  BTW - I do have it.
    
>   Wheres my tape ??? 8)
    
    I'm working on it.  Between this conference and GUITAR, I'm going to
    have to invest in audio/video dubbing machines.
    
    Mike
27.28Good stuffGOES11::G_HOUSESon of SpamTue Feb 26 1991 16:068
    I've heard a few of their songs and at first I didn't really care much
    for them.  There was other stuff on the same tape I liked better and I
    ended up listening to it more, but after a few times through, the Holy
    Soldier stuff really started to stick out.  If I had any money, I'd
    probably go pick up their tape as these songs are really starting to
    grow on me.
    
    gh
27.29can't wait for their new oneUPWARD::HEISERwelcome to the TONE ZONETue Feb 26 1991 16:176
    Re: -1
    
    I was the same way at first.  I guess I could put the whole album on
    the back of "Woodpecker Stomp" ;-)
    
    Mike
27.30Light years ahead and still falling behind!BTOVT::BRONSONBob Dylan sings like my dog!Tue Feb 26 1991 17:225
    
      And just think...last summer I was giving this band the thumbs up!
    I like 'em then and I still like 'em.
    
                           R.B.
27.31PNO::HEISERwelcome to the TONE ZONETue Feb 26 1991 19:134
    I know Randy!  DYHIW you make a great discovery and everyone else in
    here yawns it off.  They don't know what they're missing!
    
    Mike
27.32HAVASU::HEISERyes I said TONE!Tue Apr 30 1991 20:0412
    Guitarist Michael Cutting has left the band to form his own heavy
    blues/funk styled band.  Jamie Cramer will perform all the guitar
    duties now.
    
    Cutting has selected a drummer and bassist and is currently looking for
    a vocalist.  It's interesting that his ads sport a Scottsdale address.
    
    The band's new album should be out within a couple months.  It'll be
    tough to beat their debut so it should be interesting.  They've won
    quite a few awards for their debut album.
    
    Mike
27.33good newsHAVASU::HEISERmelodius volumeus maximusTue May 28 1991 20:425
    Vocalist Steven Patrick has re-joined the band.  After walking away
    with all the metal categories at the Dove awards, the band went into
    the studio in L.A. to start recording their next release.
    
    Mike
27.34Anyone listen to these guys (besides Mike?)GOES11::G_HOUSEGerm Killer, Plaque SlayerSun May 24 1992 15:0316
    Hmm...  no mention of Holy Soldier's second album, Last Train?
    
    I picked up both of their CDs awhile back and they've gotten quite a
    bit of play around my house (at least in my limited "play time").  The
    first album definately grows on you and has a lot of energy.  Last
    Train, while it has it's moments, it not to my tastes as much.  They
    kind of backed off the "high energy" stuff and do more bluesy sounding
    things.  Like I say, it's good, but not my favorite.
    
    I hope they manage to work through all the personal changes and the
    fact that this second album probably didn't do as well as the first (I
    heard almost nothing about it) and stick it out to put out more
    material.
    
    gh
             
27.35CGVAX2::GRENIERTue May 26 1992 17:036
    
    
    I have the first one.  Good stuff.
    
    
    Steve
27.36Last Train revisitedGOES11::G_HOUSEGerm Killer, Plaque SlayerTue May 26 1992 17:2811
    Well, I relistened to "Last Train" this weekend with a fresh mind (not
    having listened to a lot of other music before putting it on) and it
    wasn't as bad as I'd thought before.  It's definately got some good
    songs on it.  It think what it is that bothers me is the order of the
    songs on the CD, since there are a few toward the end that seem to drag
    a little.  
    
    In any case, I've decided that it's a good album and definately worth
    having, even though I still prefer the first one.
    
    Glh
27.37"Holy Soldier GREAT LIVE!!SALEM::STIGWed Sep 09 1992 18:366
    I personally think that they should get into more of a raw sound. I
    think David Zaffiro over-produces the over-all sound just a
    bit...although I love Zaffiro's guitar work especially with Bloodgood.
    If any of you want some more Christian Metal in your colection try some
    Bloodgood,Barren Cross,and Guardian at your local christian book
    stores. Order them if they don't have them there...You wont REGRET IT!!
27.38GOES11::G_HOUSEAll over but the shoutingWed Sep 09 1992 22:246
>    I personally think that they should get into more of a raw sound.
    
    I agree completely.  Their first album was pretty good, but "Last
    Train" definately lacks energy.
    
    gh
27.39SALEM::STIGThu Sep 10 1992 13:386
    I think what is happening is that David Zaffiro is Producing the way he
    wants it. Have you heard David's solo stuff? It's the same production
    and sound. And some of it lacks ENERGY!! I also like there first album
    and I saw them live! They use samplers for the backup vocals like
    Stryper does. A bit too much for me. I personally like that RAW sound
    better. But, other than that they sound great live with a show.
27.41"A little head-banger"SALEM::STIGThu Sep 10 1992 17:323
    They have a great guitarist. The music does get a little monotonous but
    they have some good stuff. The guitarist makes the band. I saw them 3
    times. Good head-bangin material.
27.43Rex-RulzSALEM::STIGTue Sep 15 1992 11:217
    The lyrics are simple and strate to the point. The type of lyrics that
    I write. The singer is a good front man---he gets the crowd going. The
    sound live is a bit empty cause the guitarists speed style is just to
    much for style of the music they play. But there are some songs that
    fit into his style. Rex Carroll rulz on guitar!! I personally think he
    should try another style with maybe another band. He needs more of a
    "Racer X" type band/style.
27.44GOES11::G_HOUSEAll over but the shoutingTue Sep 15 1992 19:004
    I havne't seen 'em live, but I think Rex works well on the recorded
    material.  Sounds great to me!
    
    gh
27.45Live a litle emptySALEM::STIGWed Sep 16 1992 11:581
    It sounds a lot more fuller on the recorded stuff but live empty.
27.47Not meGOES11::G_HOUSEArms raised in a VFri Oct 16 1992 17:106
    I don't hear much resemblence at all.  And yeah, I just listened to it
    2-3 weeks ago myself.
    
    Have you listened to much Queensryche?
    
    gh
27.49MSBCS::MCBRIDEWon't you be my neighbor?Fri Oct 16 1992 19:595
    
    "Empire" doesn't give you an accurate benchmark of the
    "Queensryche sound" since they change their sound with
    every album.
    
27.50CAVLRY::BUCKRebuild the Revere Beach CYCLONEFri Oct 16 1992 20:006
    >"Empire" is the only CD I've listened to.
    
    RETCH!!!
    
    
    Dude, go buy The Warning and Rage For Order!!
27.53CAVLRY::BUCKRebuild the Revere Beach CYCLONEFri Oct 16 1992 22:012
    Rage For Order is just one of those albums that EVERYONE *must* own.
    Believe me.
27.54MSBCS::MCBRIDEWon't you be my neighbor?Fri Oct 16 1992 22:035
    
    Agreed!!!
    
    RFO better than R00LZ!!
    
27.55"Great album"SALEM::STIGSat Oct 17 1992 21:271
    Oh yeah!!
27.56BUSY::ESCOBARThere Ain't No Room For Second BestMon Oct 19 1992 13:027
    
    Rage Fer Order rulz!!!
    
    Dude 'Walk in the shadows' is SO roolin'!
    
    
    
27.57CAVLRY::BUCKRebuild the Revere Beach CYCLONEMon Oct 19 1992 13:073
    
    No dude, 'Gonna Get Close to You' is SO roolin'!
    
27.58BUSY::ESCOBARThere Ain't No Room For Second BestMon Oct 19 1992 13:428
    
    "Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you're right, maybe I'm some kind of lunatic"
    "You say I'm wasting all my time, but I know what to do with it"
    "It's as plain as black and white"
    "I'm gonna get close to you
    
    
    Agreed!
27.59EerieCAVLRY::BUCKRebuild the Revere Beach CYCLONEMon Oct 19 1992 13:503
    "Outside your balcony, I have a room with a view .. and I'm watching
     you!  I dial your telephone each and every afternoon!!"
    
27.60BUSY::ESCOBARThere Ain't No Room For Second BestMon Oct 19 1992 14:249
    
    Re:  -< Eerie >-
    
    	
    I totally agree! That's what makes it a rulin' tune! The video is even
    better!!!
    
    
    
27.61CAVLRY::BUCKRebuild the Revere Beach CYCLONEMon Oct 19 1992 14:281
    YES ... the video ROOOLZ!!!
27.63 "2 Great ones!!"SALEM::STIGSun Oct 25 1992 17:423
    I think the song "The Killing Words" is pretty hot to handle off 
    "Rage For Order". Also, everthing on "The Warning" is GREATTTTT!!!!!
    These 2 albums are a must for ALL!!!