Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    
    	Yeah - the guitarist kicks *ss (on "Shout It Out", anyways).
    
    	I saw the video, and was gonna enter a note for 'em.
    
    	Are they "rap", or does it just sound similar?
    
    							GTi
    

    
    
    
    	I think they're trying to get this new type of rap-metal 
    	into the forefront.
    
    	There's another band that Adam Curry was talking about
    	Saturday night, too.  I can't remember who they were,
    	though.
    
    	I don't care for "Shout It Out" - I think they're just
    	trying to copy Anthrax's "I'm the Man" a little bit.
                                       
    
    	Just my .02
    
    	Tigga~~~
    
    

    RE .1.2
    
      They're not rap-metal. that's just that 1 song. i think they kinda
    have a style of thier own (or as much as possible for these days
    who is really original lets face it) but as i said the album is
    cool. the first song is entitled "BOP CITY" and for me anyway it's
    one of those songs that sticks in my head all day long. There are
    parts here and there where they throw in a little rap here and there
    but i wouldn't go classifying them as the new rap_metal band. And
    i really can't say enough for the guitarist. He isn't really just
    another spazmatic the way he comes across in the video. He has alot
    of really well placed riffs on the album. He's got it and he knows
    how to use it unlike some of the so called heroes (bozo's) of this
    day and age. 
    
      I give it a THUMBS-UP.
    
    
         DAVE

    
    	The guitarist CRANKS in "Don't Care 'Bout Nothing" ... from
    	the lead riffs to the solo.
    
    	This is one album I'll have to check out.
    
    							GTI
    

          
    I hear the album's doing well over there - a friend of mine has
    just visited California, and I asked him to pick up two cd's for
    me (both of which are not available in England) - Babylon A.D. (which
    he got for me) and Shotgin Messiah (which was sold out in quite
    a few places so he says).
                    
    The tunes I've soon on MTV are great though.

    
    
    
    	I have the Album.. a definite must to get.. He is a great
    	guitarist ain't he?! you should hear the instrumental!! good
    	bass player also!
    
    	JW-

    
    	I just picked up "Second Coming" the other night, and after 2
    	listens I like alot of it.
    
    	"Sexdrugsrock'n'roll" rips!!
    
    							GTI

    Does Harry Cody still have DAFS?

    
    	Didn't really look at the cover ... guys just don't turn me on.
    
    	8^)
    
    	I'll take a look and let you know.
    
    							GTI

    WTF is.......DAFS?????
    
                                Staynz

    
    dreaded ace frehley syndrome
    
    

    .....and whats that???
    
    
                                           Staynz

    >                            -< bad skin?? >-
    
    You've got it!!

    Tracii Gunns has DAFS in a wicked way!
    
        Frizkid
    

    Harry K Cody roolz!

    
    	Definitely some wailing guitar on this album.
    
    	Now I'll have to get the debut out and listen to that again.
    
    							GTI
    

    I've been listeningt to Shotgun's first for about two week straight
    now and I'm completely AMAZED.
     First off....I love the screaming of Zinny J Sans. He's one of the
    best at that. (He's out now) 8(
     Mr. Cody is such a FACKIN cooool guitarist.....He blows my mind.
    The bass playerr Tim Tim..(Tim Skold now that he sings on their second
    album) holds the peice together along with 'Sticks' the drummer.
       Their music has GREAT personallity.
    
             I find the NA,NA's extremely hilarious.
    They do it twice on the album for the bridges of the songs.
    
     My faves: BOP CITY....DON'T CARE ABOUT NOTHIN'.......SHOUT IT LOUD....
    THE EXPLORER......I M YOUR LOVER.......TEASIN PLEASIN'.
    
      I can't wait to buy their second album entitled SEX...Drugs..Rock &
    Roll.   I just hope it doesn't dissappoint.
    
          Frizkid
    

>      I can't wait to buy their second album entitled SEX...Drugs..Rock &
>    Roll.  
    
    I've seen several advertisements for the second album and I thought it
    was called "Second Coming"?
    
    I swiped Friz's copy of the first one at lunchtime today and haven't
    hardly been able to keep my (junky) Walkman off my head!  This is a
    killer album!
    
    I've been stearing away from listening to a lot of metal/heavy-rock
    bands lately because they all seem to sound alike, and kind of stale.
    But Shotgun Messiah is an amazing exception!  They sound fresh and have
    a lot of personality and energy, the things I think a lot of bands are
    lacking these days.  They'll be tops on my play list for awhile!
    
    The guitar player is totally UNREAL!
    
    gh

    
    	The second is clled "Second Coming", and it's pretty good.
    
    	"Sexdrugsrock'n'roll" is a great song!!
    
    							GTI

    
    
    	Yup, The 1st album is KILLER! along with the 2nd.. heard a good
    party of it the other night... 
    
    	Now that I've bought the new Armoured Saint, this is next on my
    list... ;')

      I heard the have a ballad on their new one....Is this true?
    
    
              Frizkid
    

	A song callled something boulivard (sp?) is winning rock war
	on Waaf for a few days now.  I like it, it is a good song.



				I will have to look for their latest release,

							-Seth

    I picked up the "SECOND COMING" and it a great and long-awaited return
    by Shotgun M.!!! I love it...I can't stop thinking about getting off
    from work and listening to it.  Tim Skold really shouldn't sing ballads
    but I don't care I like it anyway! 
    
           Hip Picks right now are....Heartbreak Blvd. and Nobody's home!
    
              Btw-I got a happy holidays postcard from Shotgun Messiah in the
mail last week....I wonder how they got my address?
    
                         Frizkid
              

    Picked up this CD (the first one "Shotgun Messiah") at a pawn shop 
    for $5 with 5 others...  Damn, these doods is SMOKIN !!
    
    Kinda like SkidRow meets Extreme ?

    Coop....Give their second one a spin in the CD player!!!
    
                Frizkid
    

    Okay...

    Coop....Be forewarned.
    
     They kicked out their singer and now the bass player sings.
            So it is a little different....
    
       It still has the "up yours..Get out of my face" attitude and cool
    lyrics.  Plus the added bonus and it is a great bonus of Harry K.
    Cody's guitar work.
    
                    Frizkid
    

    SHOTGUN MESSIAH it's not just a band it's a way of life....
    
                      Frizkid
    

    SHOTGUN MESSIAH it's not just an adventure it's a way of life.
    
             Frizkid
    

    Anybody heard any tour news on these guys?  I've got see them!
    
                          Frizkid
    

    Friz is losin it...

RE: -.1

Definately...
Eeeesh dood, get a life.  Listen to Annihilator or MegaDeth or something !!

Isn't the bass players name TimTim or some HBO name ?
Eeesh, I think thats lame...  But I still think Cody is cool.

jc

    That's right I'm losin' it......I have no life outside of my Shotgun
    Messiah tape! 8) The bass player's name WAS Tim,Tim on the first
    album...Now he goes by his real name:Tim Skold.
    Annihilator? or MegaDeth? Who are they? Plus their not worth the
    leather on the bottom of Shotgun's boots!
    
     SHOTGUN MESSIAH: It's not just music it's an OBSESSION!
      I swear this is ALL I listen too....
    
                            Frizkid
    

    
    Are you saying that SM is better than MegaDeth....
    
    
    
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     AHAH HA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAH cough cough    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
    
    	OH..HEH ...boy Friz, that was a good one...

    Shotgun is better than any band in the whole world!! (See I'm losin'
    it)!  Like I said MEGADETH isn't worthy to lick SHOTGUN MESSIAH'S
    BOOTS!
                      Frizkid
    

     Never happin'...Captain! SHOTGUN RULES THE
    WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
               Frizkid
    

    Come live in Frizkid's love-in/study camp as we explore the true
    essence of Shotgun Messiah.  Shotgun's world is a grime one but
    it's better than this world. If interested: Send 99.99 to 
     Frizkid
    

	WHAT SM BETTER THAN MEGADETH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


	Oh, sorry that was by Friz, I thought it was by someone who
	had some taste... sorry...


							-Seth

    I don't have taste but MegaDeth does for the dirty leathery 
    srcaps on the bottom of Shotgun Messiah's BOOTS!
    
                      Frizkid
    

>    I don't have taste but MegaDeth does for the dirty leathery 
>    srcaps on the bottom of Shotgun Messiah's BOOTS!


    One word LAME!!!!!



							-MegaSeth

    
    MegaDeth would stomp all over SM....
    
    Compare and you will learn...
    
    

    HA!HA! Lame? HA!HA!  Funny....
    
        I have compared.....SH stomps in MV NOT SHO.
    
                  Frizkid
    

	I don't know how you can compare the two...  SM is good, as
	I said, but Megadeth is the ruler.  SM a bunch of wanna-bees?


	Friz your making SM kid ego!!!!

	They are good, but there don't beat Megadeth, and they are not life.


							-Seth

    
    MegaDeth rule in all catagories friz... go ahead I'll set them up you
    fill them in...
    
    Guitar(L):
    Guitar(R):
    Bass:
    Drums:
    Vocals:
    Lyric Content:
    Musical Content:
    
    

Why are youu fightin' about MegaDeth and SM ??

I said Annihilator and MegaDeth.  Annihilator rips BOTH of 'em up, IMHO.
Right Scary my boy ??

jc (Just me and Clair, alone in this...)

    Why thank you Chris boy....
    
     Guitar:Harry Cody kicks the sh*t out of both players in MD.
          In speed and in feeling. Plus he doesn't have crappy curly hair.
    8)
    Bass:Better tone,Better groove......
    Drums: I think their both good at what they do...Tie.
    Vocals:I rather listen to a cat in heat than Dave's whiny voice.
        Tim Skold hands down!
    Lyric Content:SH is more than justa sex band and I enjoy their lyrics
     because:(1) I can understand them because theirnot WHINY (2) I hate 
    songs about martians. 8)
    Musical Content: Depends on what you like..... I'll take SHOTGUN
    MESSIAH because It *IS* a way of life!
    
                Frizkid
    
    

>Why are youu fightin' about MegaDeth and SM ??
>I said Annihilator and MegaDeth.  Annihilator rips BOTH of 'em up, IMHO.


	Why? beacuse if you read .33 you will see that Friz changed it
	around to rag on Annihilator and Megadeth.  That is what started
	this, not what you said.

							-Seth

    Coop: Annihilator? (Insert Frizkid sticking his finger down his throat)
    
             Frizkid
    

Oh brother...

Harry K Cody kicks ass on Marty Freidman ?
Wagagagagagagagaaa...

And Mic Mars walks all over Vai too, right ?

Careful Friz - you're drummer is showing.
jc

    
     Guitar:Harry Cody kicks the sh*t out of both players in MD.
          In speed and in feeling. Plus he doesn't have crappy curly hair.
    8)
    	*** You are kidding me right. Friedman wipes the floor with him.
    
    
    Bass:Better tone,Better groove......
    
    	*** Ellefson is a genius. Ten times better than what-s his name
    fancy boy...
    
    Drums: I think their both good at what they do...Tie.
    
    	*** Menza is a sick pup. he shall go down in history if he keeps
            up the ultimate work.
    
    Vocals:I rather listen to a cat in heat than Dave's whiny voice.
        Tim Skold hands down!
    
    	*** I happen to like Dave's snarl. but I do like Skolds voice. tie.
    
    Lyric Content:SH is more than justa sex band and I enjoy their lyrics
     because:(1) I can understand them because theirnot WHINY (2) I hate 
    songs about martians. 8)
    
    	*** Dave and Dave are ten times the lyricists that SM are.
    
    Musical Content: Depends on what you like..... I'll take SHOTGUN
    MESSIAH because It *IS* a way of life!
    
        *** Maybe but it's a S***** way of life..

    Dude.....Marty Freidman is over-rated because he's in MegaDeth.
            (Which he joined for money.)
    Jason Becker kicks his butt.....Why doesn't anybody ever talk about
    him?
    
      I think Mr. Cody not only kicks @ss on Marty but Stomps,Thrashes and
    Wails him in the ground!!!!
    
       Who has the most money Vai or Mars?  
      Mars is good at songwriting....Vai is good at guitar babbling.
    
             Frizkid
    

    Check P_N.....Nothing else matters.
    
        Frizkid
    

    	*** You are kidding me right. Friedman wipes the floor with him.
	    Ditto as does Mustaine... (as does my sister!!)    8)
    
    	*** Ellefson is a genius. Ten times better than what-s his name
        *** fancy boy...
            Yup agreed!!!!

    	*** Menza is a sick pup. he shall go down in history if he keeps
        *** up the ultimate work.
	    Mensa is awesome IMO...
	    
    	*** I happen to like Dave's snarl. but I do like Skolds voice. tie.
            I have to go with Dave, although Skolds is good, I like Dave
	    Better MO...
    
    	*** Dave and Dave are ten times the lyricists that SM are.
            ten now, try 100....
    
        *** Maybe but it's a S***** way of life..
	    HeeHee!!!  Gotta agree with that!

    Duh....Non-believers!
    
             Frizkid
    

	Okay, I have had enough of this I am finishing up my bit in this
	once and for all.

	SM is good!!!  I *do* like them....

	However, they don't compare to Megadeth...

	Megadeth is 20 times the band SM is....


					Megadeth the better way of life,

							-Seth

Ifin' ya wanna talk Becker/Friedman goto GUITAR notes or the Cacophony
topic here...  I don't feel that Friedman is over-rated because he plays 
with MegaDeth, I didn't like MegaDeth nearly as much UNTIL Friedman joined up !

I won't argue the Cody/Friedman thing with a drummer-dood. 
:)

Cody is good - But he's a Vai-wanna-be who needs to smooth out his riffs
and work on his originality... I think he could do that by putting some heart 
and sole into his playing, and forget about the speed thing.  He should
listen to BB King for a month before he goes into the studio.

Translated to drummer-ease:  Cody is fast, but he's got no soul. Or, at least 
not much. 
jc

    I also like SM, but MegaDeth blows them away in virtually any catagory.
    When SM is around for ten years come and see me...

    
    Yo Friz, lay off curley hair dude 8^)

    
    The Tart speaks !
    
    o  Mustaine is a crap player.
     
    o  Freidman is good but has now got too weird. Listen to his stuff on the
       Dragons Kiss album. He smokes then. Now it all this Japanease scales
       for the sake of it twolop. Wake up.
    
    o  Harry K Cody wipes the floor with the pair of 'em.

    Harry K Cody ROOOLZ...
    

I've listened SM's previous album and the only song I liked was an (excellent)
instrumental. They sound nice but I cannot develop more on it.

Sorin

    
    Well, I bought the first album and kinda liked it for a while but went
    off it coz the songs where a bit weak.
    
    I recently bought Second Coming and it is amazing!!!!
    
    Harry K Cody has really wised up. He still burns better than the rest
    but now seems to just sit back and groove rather than play a thousand
    miles an hour. There are more double stop licks on this album than on a
    Steve Ray Vaughan album (no offense, RIP etc..).
    
    Tim Skolds voice took a bit of getting used, but he's a VAST improvment
    on Zinny. Some rather amusing tongue in cheek lyrics too. Also, he uses
    some effects very interestingly on his voice.
    
    Stix is one awsome drummer and they've really got a HOT sound out of
    his kit. Very raw and live sounding with a thunmderous bass drum. 
    
    As for the new bass player - what can I say ? Listen to track 9 "I
    wanna know". It shreds.
    
    Check out :-
    
    Red Hot
    I want More
    Trouble
    I wanna Know
    Living Without You
    
    My favourite album of 1992 and very inspiring ( that means I wanna rip
    it off and be a Cody clone 8^) ).

    
    
     I just picked up Second Coming yesterday after hearing Heartbreak
    Blvd. on the radio. This was the first time I had heard anything by
    these guys. Really strong sounding band. I have only had a chance to
    listen to the CD once, but I do think it will become one of my favor-
    its before long. I really like the sound the bass player gets on this
    CD, as stated in previous reply, great drum sound also, powerful.
    
                                                                     mike
    

    I thought I had put a reply in here...guess not?!
    
    
    I picked up Second Coming last week, like Mike, also after hearing 
    Heartbreak Blvd. on the radio.  This album/band ROOLZ!  They are 
    my new favorite band!!  Here's my preferred pix:
    
    1) Shutgun Messiah
    2) TNT
    3) KIX
    4) Leatherwolf
    
    I love this band!!

    
    Tut tut Buck, I'm surprised you didn't pick it up sooner ;^)

    This band is also my new fav up with Skid or course....8)
     Something about this band really gets me violent yet sensetive,brutal
    yet reclusive,fanatical yet angry. 
    I love it...It stirs all my emotions in a cool way which IMHO is what 
    music is all about.
     EVERY SONG on this album is a fav. I don't think it hjas ANY filler
    stuff on it at all.
       I read it RIP that the band is homeless and made the album on 
    100,000 dollars. That includes food and equipment between their
    last album which was years ago.  Tim Skold dared ANY band to do an
    album for that price and still retain the excellent quality of the 
    sound of their album.
            GREAT BAND..GREAT NEW ALBUM=A Frizkid fan.
    
           Frizkid...
    

    A hundred grand???  Doesn't sound like a major bargain given the
    current cost of things these days.  I read in Mix this weekend that
    record companies are expecting to get locked in to $600-$700/day for
    a state of the art studio these days.  By my calculations, $100K would
    give them 4.5-5.5 months worth of studio time at those rates.  If they
    had their material together ahead of time, it shouldn't have to take
    anywhere near that long to do an album.

    I mean, Nirvana did their first album, Bleach, for $600.  (This is just
    for comparison, ok?  Please, no inane comments about how much you hate
    that band or whatever.  I'm just pointing out that it *can* be done.)
    
    It just kills me that people seem to have this mentality that says you
    can't produce a decent album these days without spending a million
    dollars!  I think there's something wrong with this kind of thinking.
    
    gh

    Greg agreed.  He was saying...That's how much they've spent on food,
    equipment,tours,studio time since the last album.
    
       I'd say that's quite a the penny-pinching.
    
                     Frizkid
    

    Everything since '88?  Yeah, I guess that is cheap then.
    
    gh (who couldn't have lived as he did since '88 on $100k)

    Recoups usually include equip rentals, food, transportation, housing
    costs, etc.  So, $100K is CHEAP!
    

    
    
    I've got there first album and thought it was o.k., Is there second
    coming album anything like it. I mean i know they've got a new singer
    (ex-bass player) and i liked the guitaring on the first album...
    
    Will i like it???
    
    Ewan

    
    Nothing like it !! Ewan, buy it mate, you won't regret it!

    Is it approx in the A) Skidrow,LA Guns,Spread Eagle type thing
    or the B) Poison,TigerTailz,Dogs D`Amour type thing.
    
    If it`s A) i`ll buy it,if it`s B) i most certainly will not buy it.
    
    -Stuski.
    

    I would say Second Coming has a lot of the groove that LA Guns
    Cocked and Loaded album had, but the tunes have the sensibility
    of TNT, or a more musical band than the Guns...

I like both CD's.  I think Extreme-clone everytime I hear it
(But I like Extreme).

Not that S-M is really that much like Extreme, but they have the same
"school-kid-type-lyrics".  They definately both seem out to attract 
the younger crowd.  

Naturally, Harry Cody shreds.

jc

    Good point Coop...The proven market for CD sales are males and females 
    between 15-24.
       So they must be doing pretty good..8)
    Do anybody know how well the CD is doing?
    
                  Frizkid
    

>Good point Coop...

Naturally.  :)

	MUST BUY!!! MUST BUY!!!!

	Everyone out there who hasn't gotten SM - SC

	you must go out and buy it.....



	NOW!!!!!

	It is awesome.....


							-Seth

    Seth isn't lying either........TRUST US! BUY THIS ALBUM or be
    eternally bummed when you hear that you didn't buy it a long time ago.
    
            Frizkid
    

>    The proven market for CD sales are males and females  between 15-24.    
    
    Dude, you should say "A proven market", not "THE proven market". 
    You're letting out a large percentage of the population by getting only
    that market.
    
    gh (who sez if it's as bubble-gum as Extreme, he probably won't like it
    much, but might be able to miss it since he doesn't listen to lyrics
    too closely)

    I got home at 2:30am last night, was zoned, and put on Second Coming...
    nothing like a cranked Heartbreak Blvd at 3 in the am!!  8^)

    
    
    I finally got hold of a copy of SM second coming album...I'm listening
    to it right now!!! It'll be a while before i pass judgement but so far
    it rips, I can't belive they've done another song with the "NA NA NA's"
    in it...the first album was enough for me! Hary Cody's guitaring's got
    better....and i prefer the new singer's voice.
    
    
    that's all for now,
    
    			E	w	a	n
    
    
    
    	

    Friz played me a sampling of most of the songs on this one at lunchtime
    yesterday and I thought it was great!  The only thing that bugged me
    was that one ballad, the dude's voice is too rough sounding, really
    grated on me.  Other then that, I'd say this is an excellent followup
    to their first album!
    
    As before, Harry Cody's guitar work is supurb!  Very tasty!
    
    gh

    So, does everyone have Second Coming yet??
    
    WHY NOT?!

    
    For a veryu good reason. I'm not very interesed in the album. I might
    buy it, I do like most of the music. Just not something I would listen
    to a lot.
    
    

    
    	I have it ... heck, I think I was the first one here to buy it.
    
    	I'll have to pop it back in the player, since it's been a couple
    	weeks since I've heard it.
    
    	Harry's got some wailin' guitar work on this one.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    Well, I've heard parts of the album for the last month or so.. I
    finally broke down Saturday and bought it! GREAT album!! I have the
    1st album and love that one also.. but this one takes the cake! 
    a MUST buy!!!
    
    So go buy it Chris.. ;')

    Thanks for the support JW.  It does rip...one of Buck's highly touted
    favs for 92...I love it!
    
    
    Chrispose, you listening??  8^)

    Of course...Count me in on the backing of this band!!!!
       It's my favorite release so far this year.
    
       Chrispose...Quit whining and buy it! 8)
    
                Frizpose
    

    ALL HAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!! The kings were in town! (Oh no! Hear comes the 
    Frizkid propaganda SM review) 8)
          
    Let me start by saying:Denver sucks! We got lost for awhile....UGH!
         THe Gothis Theater is a cool little venue that's out of the way
    a bit. It made for a great setting...There was not a bad seat in the
    house!  
           The band sounded excellent...Their sound wasn't ear-bleeding
    loud but it was very well mixed.  The did alot from the new album
    and a few from the the first album. ( I was suprised that Tim sounded
    as good as he did when doing the old material)
     The inbetween stage chatter was at a minimum. Greg you wouldv'e loved
    it.  People were moshing and chicks were diving for the curly, blonde
    headed dude.  Tim also had this habit of trying to get some off the
    side speakers which caused a loud feedback noise. Quite funny...
    Hary Cody was VERY at home with the guitar and did a wonderful job.
    Even though he looked like PlateHead from Texas Chainsaw Massacre with
    that mohawk. 8)  I was impressed with Stixx's playing back in the 
    back. He wasn't too visual but very solid....
       In the end I was surprised they play as long as they did considering
    they were the opening band. The played about an hour and a half!!
    I didn't stay for Vinny Moore since he's just a guitar ego dude and
    I don't get into that.
       What really sucked is when I when to get a Shotgun MEssiah shirt and
    they didn't bring anything! Not even a pin or poster.....WAH!
     I thought that's how most small band make their money? 
    
              It was a great time and I suggest all of you go when they hit
    your town.
    
                  Frizkid
    
                                  

    ShotGUN AWSOMe!!!!!!!!
    
    KL

    RE:  KL
    
    Your p_n "Red light/Green light"
    
    Is that "red light, green light, TNT" by KIX?  Awesome tune!!!

    
    This album rules!!!1
    
    
    
    
    
    

    
    friz, what are you doing on escargo's account?
    
    jesse, where are you?!?!
    
    

    He's (they're) right, Rob...SM's Second Coming lp rulz...it's not left
    my CD plater in weeks!!

    
    !00! I heard about 10 seconds of it, sounded good. 8-)

    
    buck, you go to obi-wan yesterday??  i still havent even seen the new
    truck...
    
    when you gonna be around to do the demo?
    

    About time ya come around C.C.!!!!
    
           Buck: It's an addiction of an album,huh?
    
             Frizkid...Who still listens to it at least once a day or
    doesn't feel right about himself.
    

    
    
    RE:-1

    
        I WANT MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
      FrizGun     8)
    
                  

    So I should buy this? WHo can you compare them to.??
    
    Thnks!
    
    ueJ

    SM reminds me a *tad* of LA Guns in the C&L days, but they're a
    bit heavier and slightly more melodic than the Guns.

    Thank You my Dear  Muffin...
    
    

    Although I agree with Buck. I think you can't compare them to anybody
    and that's the beauty of it.  Also...The singer voice takes a 
    little time to get use to.
     SueJ.....Buy it. 8)
    
              Frizkid
    

    Friz,
    
    WHile the singer's voice is unique, it didn't take me too long to get
    into it...I sort of liked it right off the bat.  What I found a tad odd
    was the LOW register the bassist plays all his parts in...low low low
    thunderous bass parts!!  The guy has got to be playing a 5 or 6 stringer!

    I liked tim's voice right off too but I know some people that it's
    taking abit of time to get used to it.
      BTW-The bass player was using a beat up four string for our gig.
        A reliable source of mine that saw SM on FRIDAY said that Tim Skold 
    pulled a Jim Morrison and flashed his winky. I'm glad he didn't 
    do that at our show. ACK!
    
                                 Frizkid
    

    
    
    The bass and the drums are excellent on this album!! The go 
    together PERFECTLY and sound so HHHUUUGGEEE! I love it when 
    the bass follows the kick in a song... 
    
    
    
    Whitpose- 8')

I think S-M is an Extreme clone in a MAJOR way...

jc

    
    	Yeah, but there's one major difference ...
    
    
    	... Shotgun Messiah's newest album is good.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

Two major diffs - Nuno has style...
:)


jc (Who likes both, really, but couldn't resist :)

    Why do you say that?  I don't think SM sounds anything like Extreme!
    
    gh

    Coop...I think your WAY off base on this on and your about to be tagged
    out.
    
                Frizkid
    

    
    Cody is a wicked good guitarist... but I do think Nuno's got a bit more
    style...
    
    
    

Well, it's just my opinion, but being an avid fan of both bands (as is my 
wife)...  We both agree that S-M more or less .eqs. "EXTREME".  The styles
(pose-metal-supreme), their writing (both bubblegum), and both have great 
guit-men who carry the bands' personna...

jc

    But Extreme's music typically has a funky based rhythmic background,
    SM's is more straight ahead rock.
    
    gh

    ...and SM's lyrics are *improving* as they do more albums.
    
    ;^)

    + Shotgun Messiah put out their first album BEFORE Extreme I believe.
       I persoanlly can't see how you could think this.  
    I see no comparision IMHO.
    
                Frizkid
    

Friz,  how can you have an opinion on S-M if your sleepin' with it ??
NObody listens to whom/what they sleep with.  :)

Seriously, don't you think that S-M has that funk too ??

jc (Who does)

    8) HA!HA!
    
     Shotgun is driving-straight-ahead rock.
     I hear no funk.....
    
           Frizkid
    

Perhaps.  :)

jc (who still thinks BOTH bands oughta stop with the Nyha, Nyha kiddie-popcorn 
    -bubbleyum crap and ROCK!)

    You sleep with your tape?
    
    
    Man... we need to talk...
    
    
    

>I think S-M is an Extreme clone in a MAJOR way...
    
    Coop, now I KNOW you're deaf!!

    Re: Buck
    
    U got it. 
    
    
    KL

    I made the statement in -2 late last night...lemme clarify with
    substance...
    
    IMVHO, Nuno only jams fast licks, often at the expense of music and
    taste.  Like the solo in Suzi is fast and shredding, but the whole
    "neo classical" solo section just does NOT fit in with the rest of the
    tune!!  Harry Cody really plays tastefully within the songs context.
    he knows how and when to rip it up, and when to lay back and play slow,
    melodic stuff.  Nuno also sounds like he's noodling to me, which is why
    I prefer Harry's playing...it sounds MUSICAL.

    
    
    SM don't sound nothin like Extreme! 

    Shotgun M. sound little more like Spread Eagle.
    
    
   KL

Well, like I said, it's just my (and CJ's) opinion.  Both bands are 
bubblegum-c*ck_rock.

jc (Not deaf, just opinionated)

    	I think that "The Explorer" is much better than any and I mean any!!
    Of NONO's solo's!!! One to note (The Flite of the Errotating Bumble Bee)
    Pierre who would rather hear it the classical way!!

    Killer CD. 
    
    'nuf said.

    ..tonight's the night at Axis...S.M. and Vinnie Moore......i know
    Buck's going to be there...who else is going?............/k
    

    Can somebody give me the direction to Axis tonight.
    I wanna go too if I know the way to get there. Do they
    sell ticket at the door or you have to get ticket from ticket agency?
    
    KL

    ...you can get tickets at the door.....$7.00.......Axis is on Lansdown
    St. which is parallel to Commonwealth Ave off of Kenmore Square.
    Lansdown is the street that goes behind the "big green monster" (or the
    left field wall for those less informed...;'))  of Fenway Park.....hope
    this helps a bit......../k

    Thank you........

    
    
    
    Of course I'll be there...

    ...well well jim...thank you for entering and signing in......we'll see
    you there....will the lovely jen be acccompanying you?.......;')).../k

    
    
    
    Hey.. no prob.. :') 
    
    Nope, she won't be there.. My untouchable pictionary teammate will
    be accompanying me.. ;')

    /k
    
    Remember those pics for JC!

WHo me ??

    
    
    
    
           I'll be there................
    
    
                                                                M

    RE: Coop
    
    No, JC, The Big Pink Dude...

    
    
    	re: .145
    
    	Hey, Tigg didn't tell me she was going!  ;)  ;)
    
    	JJ
    

	Did anyone go see Shotgun and Vinnie at Axis????



	I DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


	THEY RULED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


						-The Poohster!

    ..Poohseth...i was there...didn't see you though...........great show!.
    ../k

	I looked for you and JW, but I didn't see either of you..


	Where were ya about?

						-Sethypooh

    ...we saw you....we hid.....................;'))).............../k

	Why do I believe that?????!?!!?  ;^) hehehehe


	Okay, then what was I wearing?  ;^)


						-Seth

    >                        -< Nakedypooh!~!!! ;^) >-
    
    No wonder they didn't see anything!
    ];^>

	HAHAHAHA Funny Buck!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


	Why did you chicken out you whimp!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


							-Sethypooh

    well poohseth....after S.M. left the stage and the crowd dispersed some
    ....Whitpose, Danpose, myself and several others were standing inthe
    middle of the room for a few minutes.....!!...how could you miss all 
    that hair!......................../k
    
                                         

	I was in the second row of standing people, in little
	towards the center stage, but basically in front of the
	bass players for both groups!!!

	GREAT PLACE TO BE!!!!!!!!!!!!

	I don't think I have EVER seen so much hair in my life!!!!!
	EVERYONE had hair down to their @$$#$.......


							-Sethypooh

    RE: Poohyseth
    
    ;')  I was too tired.  I'm going to be up all fackin weekend, and I
    gotta work Monday.  We old people take these things into consideration
    and plan accordingly!  8^)
    
    
    RE: Hair...
    
    Was Duy there?

	Hey Buck, $cr*w planning!!!

	HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!


	If I 'planned' most likely I should have stayed at work..


	but I didn't and I had fun!!  LIVE IT UP!!!


							-Sethypooh

    ..Hey...Axis S.M. go'ers.....did you notice that the singers right 
    nipple was pierce.........YOUCHHHH!........what would possess anyone to
    do that............./k

Yo K,

Thats not as bad as Bucks friend with the pierced foreskin.
Yeowwwwwww !

jc 

>Thats not as bad as Bucks friend with the pierced foreskin.
>Yeowwwwwww !


	I don't wanna know how you know that jc....... ;^) hehehe


	re: /k Yeah I saw it he was right in front of me for a lot
		of the show..  I wanted to reach up and give it
		a good yank!!! hehehehe!!!


						-Evilypooh! ;)

Well - Buck entered a reply about it a while ago...

jc - who shrivels at the thought.  :)

    I told you coop, it ain't the foreskin...it goes right through the
    head!!

    Just picked up "Second Coming" today and have given it a couple of
    listens so far.... pretty decent stuff... love the beats of the
    tunes...

    My calendar sez that SHUTGUN MESSIAH are playing at Derringer's this
    Wednesday eve.
    
    So, who's going from the file?!?  I wanna go...where is Derringer's?
    Who can give me direcions?!?
    
    Thanks in advance,
    B.

    
>    where is Derringer's?

	Rt. 28 in Brockton, check the directions note, I think there's
	details in there.

	- Jim

    re. bcuk...
    
    
    I might go, i dunno fer sore tho'
    
    how much is tixs???
    
    		wendy o'
    

    RE: Wendy*O,
    
    Donno...don't know $#!t about the gig logistics...hoping to find out
    'fore Wed, tho

    Directions from 128 (either direction)
    
    Rt 128 south to RT 28 south (randolph), follow rt 28 south for several
    miles until you get to Brockton...(you will pass a KFC on your left)
    Derringers is up a 1/2 mile on the right.
    
    They've took down the big Green neon sign. Look for a small white sign
    with Band names listed on it. Its very easy to get to, because its
    right on 28.
    
    Have fun!
    

    Thanks.
    
    One hurdel down, a couple more to go!

    FYI...
    
    Shotgun hits the stage between 10:30 - 11pm tonight.  Tix are $8.00
    for those over 21, $10 for those under.
    
    
    B.

    Ok, didn't see anyone at the SHOTGUN gig last night, so here was the
    poop:
    
    The band played most of the songs off of SECOND COMING, not *one*
    song off their first album, and they did 4 cover songs!  The set
    kicked off with Nobody's Home, and ended with Babylon.  Also included
    were Sex, Drugs, R&R, Red Hot, Living Without You, Heartbreak Blvd,
    I Want More, Ride The Storm, I Wanna Know, and Can't Fool Me.
    
    They did a Sex Pistols cover (Liar), a Ramones cover (23rd & 3rd), 
    and some other punk band cover I totally didn't know.  Their sound
    was really rocked out...far less produced than on the album, which I
    think where Cooper said they were "blowing chunks" live.  They're
    still a good band live...Stixx and Harry Cody both ripped.  The singer
    wasn't bad, either.  Couldn't hear the bassist too well, I was on
    HKC's side of the stage.
    
    One point, this is one UGLY band!!!  8^(  Although HKC has a mohawk
    now, and Stixx cut off ALL his hair, and looks like ME now!
    
    Not a bad gig.  I was psyched to see HKC using the 5150 amp.

    The drummer cut off all his hair? 
    
    Friz
                  

    
    
    Man.. what is it with these guys!? Next thing you know, the singer 
    will be a skin head!!

    He already has hair extentions...
    
     Bob:Since you're signed to the same label are you getting hair
    extentions?  8)
    
                 friz
    

    We aint signed...yet...no hair extensions here...dont need em.
    
    Bob

    RE: SM's Stage Pres
    
    The bassist (Bobby Lycon) was cool.  HKC was cool in spurts, but he
    seems more intent on PLAYING cool than looking cool.  He has stage 
    pres similar to that of Tracii Gun.  The Drummer for this band is 
    great...fun to watch, and ROCK SOLID!  The singer did his singer trip.

    He has a cool voice for rockin' tunes but whoever told him to sing
    ballads should be SHOT!
                  Friz
    

    Tim Skold's voice on Ballad's is an acquired taste.  I didn't like it
    at first, but I dig it now.
    
    I think his voice is WAY cool!!

    
    
    Make that 2.. I think his voice is cool too.. 

    At first, I thought the vocals on the ballads didn't really fit, but
    after a couple of listens, I really started to like the sound of the
    guy's voice on them...
    
    I think "Red Hot" is still my fav on 2nd Coming...

    >Well after all the years I've been around here and southern California,
    >the majority rules on these 2 factors:
    >
    >1. Valley accents sound stupid
    >2. Valley people are stupid.
    
    Well, FWIW, the singer (Ex-Bassist) for SHOTGUN is a transplant from
    Europe.  So much for Valley accents...

    RIGHT ON MIKE!!!!!!!! 
    
         FP RULEZ!!! 
    FWIW-The lead singer of Shotgun is from Sweden.
    
           Friz
               

    you mean Sveden!

    I wanna meet their BIKINI TEAM!
    
             Friz
    

    When they were first brought over from Sveden, they didnt speak any
    English. Our A&R man from the label had them live with him and his
    wife for a few months. They taught them how to speak english and cook,
    then they put them into apartments until they could afford to pay there
    own way....FWIW........My fav is Heartbreak Blvd.....some of the other
    stuff is not really in my listening range.
    
    Bob

    Did somebody say Sveeden?
    

    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    				C'mon, C'mon, Let's go now!

    FWIW- There is a live EP to be released right around Nov. 17th. The
    songs were recorded at a show and overdubbed and mixed in the studio.
    I heard the stuff and it sounded good.
    
    They are also working on their new album
    
    Bob

    
    No fair! Yer on the same label!
    
    
    ;')

    Bob: Did you say hi to Tim Tim? 8)
    
           Friz
    

    Friz- I havent met these guys...There AR rep is the same as ours so he
    has been telling us different things about the various acts he has
    working with him.
    
    
    Bob

    Bob,
    
    MUCH thanks for the SM info ... you know hjow much we love them here in
    HM.  Can't wait for the new lp and EP!!  
    
    
    RE: Friz
    
    Harry ain't no sheep dog anymore ... last I saw him he had a mohawk!

    I got the album 2nd coming last neet,and quite frankly cannot see why
    you lot rave about them so much.
    
    The lyrics are cliched beyond belief ("Sex,drugs,rocknroll,Red Hot -
    ho,ho),and the songs aren`t anything special. Or the guitar playing,
    come to that.
    

    Shotgun MEssiah......Some people just don't get it.
    
          Friz
    

    re: SUBURB::COOKS
    
    I agree!  Nothing special about it to me either.
    
    |KS|
    

    Ahhhh but we still made ya guys buy it. 8P
    
          Friz
    

    Yeah you did Friz and Buck!   :'PPPPPPP
    
    I wouldn't have bought the d*mn thing if you hadn't raved about it so
    much!
    
    |KS|

    HA!  HA! HA! HA!
    
          Friz
    

    I thought it was pretty cool!  Yeah, the lyrics are pretty cliched in
    places and weird in others, but the music has a lot of energy and I
    really like Harry Cody's guitar playing.
    
    gh

    
    I love it. Bass and guitars are great. True is voice is in the
    shite-can, but it's something to be overlooked.
    
    

    I *like* Tim Skold's voice ... a LOT!  And Stixx ROOLZ on the drums...
    I LOVE his style of playing ... it fits so perfectly!!!

    
    Stixx is pretty basic, although he's got a roolin' groove.
    
    

    >Stixx is pretty basic, although he's got a roolin' groove.
    
    Less is more, imho.  Stixx timing is so dead on, it's scary!
    And, as mentioned by yourself, he's capable of roolin grooves!!
    
    
    I'd much rather play in a band with a Stixx than a Neil Peart anyday.

    -1 no way...Peart rules!!!
    
    :)

    
    Way.
    

    Peart begot musical masturbation which begot Peart wanna-be's which
    begot a break-down of the concept of "ensemble" which begot show-off's
    which begot noise which begot listeners getting headaches.
    
    See what good he's done?
    ;')

Wait until Rob hears this !!!

    I dont care what he begot...he still smokes....RusH isnt noise..
    Enough cluttering this note.
    
    :)

    Isn't the word "begat" not "begot"...
    
    gh

    Bigot?
    ;')

    I was doing dishes last night listening to SM's "Second Coming" and 
    came to the conclusion that:
    
     IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS CD YOU'RE DEAF!!!!!
    
             Friz
    

    Well in that case,all i can say is
    
    PARDON?
    

    
    Frizgrunge has been....
    
    
    
    
    			
    
    				DOMESTICATED!

    
    Yeah, but it doesn't count until he's also been paper trained
    and neutered.
    

    You didn't know?

     Hum? I see we have plenty of deaf people in here. 8)
    
     Chris: HA!HA! Not quite yet...I was just being cool to Vic.
    
     Kev: I went on the paper for the first time last night. Do I get a
    treat?
    
               ARF!
     Friz
    

    remember frizball..........bark like a BIG dog!............./k

    
    FACKIN RUFF

    AAAAAAA           RRRRRRRRR             FFFFFFFFFFF     !
    AA   AA           RR    RR              FF              !
    AA   AA           RR RRR                FF              !
    AAAAAAA           RRRR                  FFFFFFFFF       !
    AA   AA           RRRRR                 FF              !
    AA   AA           RR  RRR               FF              !
    AA   AA           RR    RR              FF              !
    
     FRIZ
    

    
    
    ...good boy!................/k

    I'm big enough to ride....
    
            Friz
    

    Get a room!  (doghouse)

Sit, UBU, SIT !!
(Ruff)

Good dog.
jc

    WORD ON THE STREETZ IZ THAT THE *NEW* SHOTGUN ALBUM SHIPPED THIS WEEK.
    
    
    YAHOO!

    buck....were you out on the streets *again*..??....you need a stern
    talking to.............;')............................./k

    Sorry, but rent wuz due
    ;')

    
    
    WOW! that was fast!

    Its a release between releases....they are actually in the studio now
    working on the next album.....this is like a five or six song ep of live
    stuff to hold people over until the REAL record is done...
    
    Bob

    
    	Oh no ... not another EP!!
    
    	Anthrax, and Skid Row ... and now Shotgun Messiah!!  Why not
    	just wait until they have enough material for a REAL album?
    
    							GTI

    Theris a difference GTI...
    
    The Skid Row EP is STOOLIN -- the Shotgun EP will be ROOLIN!!
    
    
    nuff said

    What's wrong with EPs (aside from the fact that the record stores
    charge you as much for one as a full length CD)?
    
    gh

    I think ep's are risk calculaters for record companies.
    
    btw - what Skid Row ep ?

    
    	"B-Sides Ourselves" ... all covers.
    
    							GTI

    SHITTY covers!!

    
    Shotgun Messiah have parted company with their drummer and their bass
    player.
    
    -tony

    NO WAY!!!
    
    8^(

    Hmmm...Ill inquire about this and post what I find out!!
    
    Bob

    It is true...it actually happened out about 2 months ago...One wanted
    to go back to Sweden...The other guy was from NYC...so I dont know what
    the story was with him.....They are in the process of auditioning new
    members and are still scheduled to go into the studio and record their
    next album....So it doenst look like the end to SM......
    
    
    Bob

    
    Doubtful that they'll be able to top Second Coming now.
    

    Buck,
    
    Now, would I lie to you my son ?
    
    -t

    
    
    No way!! Geeeeaazzzz...
    
    Well, where and when are they auditioning new bassists!!?? ;'))

    
    They probably want a *good* bassist, Jim.
    
    

    
    
    
    Exactly...
    
    
    I got down the bass section to 'One'! Most Legendary! ;'))
    
    

    
    Yer a god!
    
    

    
    ...and what's up with the Star Trek: TNG p_n... thought you didn't like
    that show..?
    
    

    Well, part of the reason I really liked SM was the drummer, so,
    I doubt I'll like their next lp.  Close the chapter on this band...

    
    It seems everyband is breakin' up...
    
    
    'cept one. ;')
    
    

    
    	RE: Jim
    
    >I got down the bass section to 'One'! Most Legendary! ;'))
    
    
	Wow ... both notes?  8^)
    
    
    	RE: Buck
    
    	A drummer is a drummer.  Well, not quite, but there's only
    	so much a drummer can add to a song.  I'd bet they could
    	replace the drummer and you'd hardly notice it.
    
    	RE: Chris
    
    	Wait a week ... they'll be gone.  8^)
    
    							GTI    
    

    >	RE: Buck
    >
    >	A drummer is a drummer.  Well, not quite, but there's only
    >	so much a drummer can add to a song.  I'd bet they could
    >	replace the drummer and you'd hardly notice it.
    
    I have to REALLY disagree ... ANY band member is key to the band
    and band sound.  Could you imagine Dream Theater without John
    Myung on Bass?  Or Motley Crue without Tommy Lee?  Or Rush without
    Alex Lifeson??  I think you get the picture...

    
    
    >> Myung on Bass?  Or Motley Crue without Tommy Lee?  Or Rush without
       ^^^^^
    
    He's a MADMAN! Playin' the bass on the FRET BOARD?! Way Cool!!!
    
    
    

    Buck....I agree with ya, but if anybody has to be replaced...I think
    the drummer would be the easist...thats just my opinion....
    
    Bob

    
    
    RE: chris.. 
    
    When did I say I didn't like ST! Its the baaaallls dude!~
    
    I think the drummer would be the easiest to replace in SM. I liked
    the bass player! simple, but cool, TIGHT playing! 
    
    Wpose-

    Harry Cody is still the center piece of this band. Should he leave the
    band would disintegrate into nothingness.

    You mean it's not Tim Tim?
    
    gh gh

I can imagine Rush without Alex Lifeson on drums...

Sorry, I'm in a wierd mood today.




    

    
    I think Harry is more replaceable than the rhythm section!!
    
    Those two guys just LOCK IN together and really hold down the groove.
    Most rhythm sections are so predicable but these two guys play
    TOGETHER as opposed to over/under eachother.
    
    Good guitarists are a dime a dozen.

    
    The new album's release is coming soon. Its entitled "Violent New
    Breed" and, according to Kerrang, blows "Second Coming" out of the
    water. It didn't mention the replacements in the band but said there
    were 12 tracks of pure gut wrenching aggression weaved through
    accessable melodies. Kerrang gave it the KKKKK rating (the highest
    rating possible) and said they believe it to be the best album of the
    year.
    
    -Tony

    -1
    
    Killer -- I can't wait!!

    Bob Mercier of COnTaGiOuS fame got a promo of the new SM disk, and
    agrees with Kerrang that "this album is AMAZING!!!"
    

     
     In what way did they change their sound?  The debut was OK, Second
    Coming only fair (Lotsa cheese).  I was loosing faith in this band..
    
     Would have to be a major change to be release of the year....
    
    Keith
    

    
    
    
    Heard a few cuts off of the new album.. I'd have to really listen to 
    it to see if I like it. They changed ALOT. Really industrial/punk kinda
    sound, the mix was real tinny. Sounds alot like the butthole surfers... 
    
    
    Whit-

    
    
              These guys will be playing Nov/9th at Rack-n-Roll
    
              here in the Springs!!!!!!!!!    
    

     
     Well after a poor showing off the last album, I'm not going to buy
    this new one without hearing it first...
    
    Keith
    

    Last time they were here they blew BIG chunks...

     
     Awww...Cum on....I'm trying to eat my Egg Mcdigital.... :(
    
    /Sax

    
    
    When I saw them last time at Axis, they were pretty good.. Or could it
    have been the fact I had a few beers.? 
    
    I loved the last album! 
    
    As for lineup changes, I heard they were looking for a new bassist a
    while back....
    
    
    Whit-

    
    
    I'm sure for this new album it's  Tim Skold - vocals/bass
    				      Harry Cody - guitars
    	and a drum machine programmed by the two of them.
    
    
    	Sounds like they got fed-up with bassist/drummer hassles.
    
    
    			
    				EWAN

    
    
    
    I guess the singer has a mohawk now.. that should look interesting..

    Tim Tim..

    I thought TimTim played Bass *and* sang!?!?
    

>    I thought TimTim played Bass *and* sang!?!?
    
    He hates himself...

    
    Well the new album is out and it is er....different.
    
    It has very strong punk and thrash influences but is very good
    nonetheless. Some really powerful and aggresive tunes and my only gripe
    is the effects used on Tims voice - sounds like he's singing through a
    megaphone on most of it. Not much widdly diddly playing from Cody -
    most of its down in the mix but what you can hear has the familiar wah
    wah tone to it. 
    
    Overall its a great album but is very different to 'Second Coming'. 
    
    -Tony
    

    
    
    Are all the vocals on the entire album in 'megaphone'?! I HATE that.. 
    one song, fine.. but I don't think I could stand to listen to an entire
    album that had vocals like that.. 
    
    
    Whit-

    I have to say that I totally LOVE this album!!!!!  Best album of the
    year, imvho!  And fwiw, I don't mind the overly-processed "megaphone"
    vocals at all ... I think all the fx are kinda cool.  Different, at
    least.

    Caught SM last night at Local 186 (Formerly Bunratty's) -- 
    
    First off, I am *so* glad Rob was wrong with his post they had broken
    up, and the tour was cancelled!!!  
    
    Not sure what is up with the band -- they have replaced Stixx and Bobby
    Lycon from the Second Coming album/tour with two non-descript,
    unannounced players.  Also very weird was the addition of a rhythm
    guitarist to the band!?!  The focal point of Shotgun Messiah, however,
    remains to be singer Tim Skold and lead guitarist extrodinaire Harry K
    Cody.  The band has also adopted this really grungy, punk rock meets
    seattle grunge image, but the other guitarist and the new drummer had
    this rather flowing long blonde hair which, uh, just didn't "fit", you 
    know??
    
    Some other HM noters here thought the show was ... "eh".  The sound
    system was really hurtin at Local 186, but to me they were thrashing
    out punk rock, so it really didn't matter.
    
    Here is the set they played:
    
    I'm a Gun
    Come Down
    Jihad
    Enemy in Me
    Revolution
    Violent New Breed
    Rain
    Sex, Drugs, Rock & Roll
    Monkey Needs
    
    Encore:
    
    I Come in Peace
    Heartbreak Boulevard
    
    
    So let's see ... that breaks down to be 9 songs off of VNB, 2 songs off
    of SC, and 0 songs off of their first album, SM.  I really wish they
    would do some old stuff, like Nervous of Don't Care Bout Nuthin.  When
    I saw them on the SC tour, they didn't play anything off the first
    album either, but they did throw in some punk rock cover tunes.
    
    For the guitar players out there, Harry K is still using that les paul,
    but has srapped the 5150 head he was using on the SC tour in favor of a
    new rack system, featuring the Mesa-Boogie Tri-Axis preamp and a stereo
    simul-class power amp!

    TriAxis eh??
    
    So, what did you think of that most RULIN tone??
    
    When you gonna get one??
    ;-)

    >TriAxis eh??
    >
    >So, what did you think of that most RULIN tone??
    
    Harry had a pretty good grunge tone out of the Tri-Axis ... he wasn't
    using any fx ... only had a cabinet emulator, wireless system, and power 
    source units in his rack other than the preamp and poweramp (which
    probably helped his tone a lot).  He was using one of those OLD
    Mesa-Boogie 4x12 cabinets ... the real deep ones.  I didn't think it
    was a GREAT sound, but pretty good.
    
    The other guitarist was using an old Charvel into an MP system (MP-1
    and their power amp) running one of Harry's other old Mesa cabinets...
    need I say that you couldn't hear him at all?!?

    
    	I listened again, and I still don't like it.  The vocals are
    	TOO bad to ignore.
    
    	And the only thing I could think when I listened was that they
    	were going "industrial".  The new album sounds like a "dirty"
    	Renegade Sound Wave, or Skinny Puppy.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    buck, i went back to jack and told him shotgun was still touring, jack
    says 'you idiot.  i said saigon kick, not shotgun messiah'.  oops.
    
    

    .....Buck was I one of the ones that thought the show was 'eh'?..i don't
    rememember...they went on very late...i wished they played
    longer.....and some more of their older material........we won't even
    get into the sound situation...that p.a. should be shot in the head...
    *twice* and buried in a shallow  grave............and i
    personally didn't mind the new 'flowing hair'.......;').....i'm glad
    escobrat clued me in on this show as i hadn't heard about it at all....