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    	I HATED them in concert when they opened up for AC/DC (???)
    	last year.  They didn't even know what city they were in and
    	the fools who WERE enjoying them roared right along with them
    	when they said "Are you ready to F**** party Boston??!"  And
    	it wouldn't have been so bad if it had been once, but it 
    	happened two or three times.
                                                               
    	ARGGHH!!!!  Almost nothing annoys me more than to have a band
    	come to one town and call it another...Get a clue guys.
                                    
    	Now on the other hand.  I've seen a couple of videos on the
    	HBB and I thought they were good!!  I won't go see them in
    	concert again, but I might pick up something on tape if I
    	get that desperate.
    
    	Tigga~~~

Why does this feel like Deja Vu - I coulda sworn I discussed this band 
elsewhere in this file....

Anyways - I saw them at the Channel a while back, and thought they were OK.
They are pretty much on the same level as Faster Pussycat - just a little too 
much flash over substance. But the show was real enjoyable, and the did some 
decent Zep and Aerosmith covers....

I haven't heard the album, so I can't judge them against that.

cat

    re: Alan
    
    There is another discussion with LA Guns and Faster Pussycat and a few
    of the other of this type band.  It's title is something about
    "sleeze".  I have no problem with a seperate note for each band.
    
    re: LA Guns
    
    I've never heard a whole album by them, but what I've heard I liked. 
    It's a kind of raw sound like Faster Pussycat, GnR, etc.  Pretty simple
    music from what I heard (about half one album & a couple of videos),
    but a kind of nice groove. 
    
    The video that Shawn mentioned is for a song called "Electric Gypsy". 
    While I didn't think the video was outstanding (unless you're all wild
    on seeing unwashed guys riding Harleys), I did like the song.
    
    gh
                               

I've heard their 1st LP and it sound very similar to GnR to me. I've found
"electric Gypsy" a very good tune. There is also a guitar instrumental (If
I remember well) on the second side which is excelent.

One member of the group is called Guns (forgot its firstname) and of what I've
heard he was, with Axl Rose, the former of "Guns & Roses" (using their 2 names).
But then he left GnR (or got kicked out) and formed "LA Guns".  

Anybody have heard the same story ?


Didier

    
    There's the LA - Guns - n Roses scam:
    
    LA Guns was formed by lead guitarist Tracii Guns, along with Axl, Izzy,
    and Duff from GnR.  Slash and Steve A. were playing in a band called
    Hollywood Rose, which Duff also jammed with from time to time.  Now,
    the GnR dudes wanted to do a northwest tour, and Tracii and the LA Guns
    drummer were scared to leave thier jobs and go out on the road, so Axl
    "kicked them out", called up Slash and Steve, and formed Guns n Roses.
    They did go out on said northwest tour, but it was a bit of a distaster
    (Van broke down, equipment stolen, etc etc), but they said they came
    out of it a stronger band as a result.  Tracii obviously forged on with
    LA Guns, and I bet he's kicking himself now as to why he isn't that
    rich n ramous! 

    I think if you look on AFD there is a song that is in different
    color then the rest on the cover. I think it was co written by Gun
    or he had some part in it. I heard an interview a long time ago
    on a local radio station here in Chicago with Axl when Guns n Roses
    was opening up for Alice Cooper in Chicago (with Cinderellas drummer)
    and he said the same story about how Gun quit didn't sound like
    any bad feelings and that was before they (gnr) got really big.
    GnR got so drunk at that concert is was sick Slash was stagerrin
    so badly is was just entertaining to watch him bump into all there
    gear.  They were realy bad that night and just turned up their amps
    to cover it all up. ALICE rocked that night though...
    

    Isn't LA Guns the band with the vocalist who used to be in the
    late seventies/early eighties British band "Girl" ?
    
    I remember seeing this band support UFO around 1980 in Glasgow.
    It is interesting (IMO) to note that the guitarist in this band
    was none other than Phil Collen (sp ?) who progressed to a more
    prosperous outlook with that well-known teeny-bopper sensation
    band...Def/Duff something or other....
    
    All I remember from Girl's set that night was them doing a song
    called "Do ya' Love Me"- the singer took a solo spot trying to
    rouse the crowd with cries of "Do ya love me ?"...
    
    The general response was "$%^& off!!!!"
    
    ...Nuff said..!
    
    Gm

    
    
    	I liked the first album the songs are good yet simplistic and
    	 the singer has got a killer sounding voice, not to high
    	not to low.
    
    	I give it a thumbs up I like the band.
    
    	Anyone heard the new album yet.
    
    	M
    	 B
    	

     For all of you into LA Guns: if you haven't seen the new Rolling
    Stone, the band is doing a nice and pretty photo spread showing off all
    of the pretty clothes that they bought lately.  Isn't that special. 
    They should concentrate on trying to be good before they *try* to be
    good looking.

Also heard the new LA Guns tune on WBCN the other night, and I was impressed!
I wasn't a *big* fan of their first album, although I thought they were OK. 
This one sounds better, and reminded me of Tora Tora (in fact, I thought 
that's who it was until they announced it afterwards). Nice funky feel to it, 
sorta reminiscent of mid-era Aerosmith (not as good, but it had that kinda 
sound).

cat

    I've got the new album and I'm impressed.  Their new album is a lot
    tighter than the first, not as rough.  I think it has some great guitar
    work too.  It's definately an album I'd buy.  As a matter of fact, I
    already ran out and got tickets to their show.

    Yah, I went.  I thought the show was great.  Every band was cool.  I
    had front row for dangerous Toys.  And I got a drum stick and guitar
    pick.  Then later on some guy bought an LA Guns guitar pick off me for
    $20!  The place was packed.  La Guns looked great they did a wicked
    good job doing "Malaria".  They played all the cool tunes.  I wished
    they played more of the new album though.  I had such a great time. 
    I'm going again tonight to Providence. -Kim

    Went and saw these guys again last night.  What a lame crowd.  there
    was nobody there.  The first 10 rows were filled (if that) and there
    were scattered people around.  Missed Tora Tora and Dangerous Toys this
    time due to police harrassment but, did catch all of La Guns.  I
    thought they put more energy into the Boston show.
    
    The funniest thing about the whole night was when Phil Lewis goes "we
    were in Boston last night and you guys blow them away" "this is the
    loudest crowd" I couldn't believe he said that.  I was like you've go
    to be kidding.

    
    	Well, I've been listening to "Cocked and Loaded" all w'end,
    	and it cooks!!  Alot of great stuff ... "Rip and Tear" is
    	my favorite, with "Never Enough" and a couple others fol-
    	lowing close behind.
    
    	Tracii Guns WAIIIIILS on guitar ... his style of playing
    	seems to be very similar to Slash (GnR), but I'd say he's
    	a little better.
    
    							GTI
    
    

    
    
    WELL ITS BEEN 2 MONTHS SINCE ANYONE HAS ADDED ANYTHING TO THIS, SO I'M
    GONNA.  I WOULD HAVE ADDED BEFORE, BUT I JUST GOT AN ACCOUNT HERE.
    
    L.A. GUNS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES.  I MET TRACII GUNS AT THE CHANNEL IN  
    BOSTON AND HUNG OUT WITH HIM FOR A WHILE AND GOT MY PICTURE TAKEN WITH
    HIM.  HE WAS SO SWEET.  THE REASON I GOT IN THERE, BEFORE THEY OPENED
    THE DOORS, WAS BECAUSE MY SISTER'S BOYFRIEND'S BAND WAS ONE OF THE
    BANDS WHO OPENED UP FOR L.A. GUNS.  SO NO ONE WAS THERE AND I JUST
    LOOKED OVER AND THERE TRACII WAS... PLAYING A VIDEO GAME WITH ONE OF
    HIS ROADIES.  MY SISTER'S BOYFRIEND TOOK 3 PICTURES OF US BUT ONLY 1
    CAME OUT...THANK GOD!!!!
    
    I ALSO SAW L.A. GUNS AT THE ORPHEUM THEATRE IN BOSTON.  THEY PUT ON
    SUCH A GOOD SHOW, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A LITTLE PLACE.  BUT LITTLE IS
    BETTER, BECAUSE ONLY A FEW FEET AWAY FROM YOU, THEY WERE RIGHT THERE.
    THE LEAD SINGER, PHIL (ITHINK) WORE THE COOLEST LOOKING STUFF, AND HE 
    HAS THE GREATEST SCRATCHY SOUNDING VOICE THAT'S ALL HIS.  I LOVE IT.
    
    MY FAVORITE SONG BY THEM HAS TO BE "SEX ACTION" BECAUSE I HEARD 1 
    SECOND OF THE SONG ON AN AD ON WAAF FOR L.A. GUNS OPENING UP FOR SOME
    BAND (A WHILE AGO) AND FROM THE 3 WORDS I HEARD THEM PLAY, I WENT OUT
    AND BOUGHT THE TAPE.  THAT SONG IS SO COOL.  THE "BALLAD OF JANE" IS
    SO AWESOME, TOO.  I HEARD THAT WHOEVER WROTE IT, HIS GIRLFRIEND IN
    REAL LIFE DIED, OR GOT KILLED, AND HE WROTE THAT SONG FOR HER.
    IN THE LAST VERSE IT SAYS, "SHE'S BREAKING HEARTS IN HEAVEN NOW."
    IT'S SO SAD, BUT SUCH A GOOD SONG.  THEY REALLY KNOW HOW TO GET YOU
    UP AND FLIPPING OUT AT THEIR CONCERTS.
    
    THEIR VIDEO TAPE IS COOL, TOO.  IT SHOWS TRACII TALKING FOR A BIT, AND
    PLAYING A SOLO.  HE'S SO COOL.
    
    ANYONE ELSE THINK SO?

    
    
    I think "Cocked and Loaded" is cool.  I like every song.  I think it's
    better than there first - not a rough - but the first album cranks too. 
    Pretty cool live.  I liked them better when I saw them in clubs than in
    the Orpheum. - Kim

    I met Tracii not too long ago.  We have a mutual friend and he
    introduced him to me.  I guess they grew up together here in Phoenix.
    
    Mike

    They're pretty good really, but I especially like their name. It has a
    good ring to it: LA Guns...
    
    Is his last name *really* Guns? 
    
    -rt-

Haven't heard the new album but the first on is listenable.  Overall I think
it's got a lotta pretty lame stuff on it, but there are a couple of songs
on there that really fire me up.

Electric Gypsy roooools!

gh

    Re: Traci's last name
    
    Not sure, I didn't talk to him for very long.  I can find out though.
    
    Mike

    Tracii Guns changed his name from Tracy to Tracii, and his last name
    too.  I cut out an article in a magazine and it showed a picture of
    him when he graduated from high school.  He looked so funny.  He didn't
    even look like the same person at all.
    
    I met him too at the Channel in Boston.  My sister's boyfriends band
    opened up for them, because it was also amateur night.  I got 3 
    pictures taken with him but only 1 came out.  Thank God.  He was so
    cool, he was just standing there playing video games and I was the 
    only one there talking to him.
    
    But I agree, I HATE his hair cut short!
    
    -Reen

    
    			       -< COCKED AND LOADED >-
    
    	I seen L.A. GUNS in concert at "The Beach".  I found their
    	concert to be very satisfying!  "Sex Action" and "Ballad
    	of Jane" are my favorite songs from their new album.
    	It took me time to get use to Tracii Guns new hairdo, but 
    	he sure can jam!
    	
    	traye

Dude, "Sex Action" is on their first album...

gh 

    Yo, gh...
    
    Pick up the latest effort ASAP...run, do not walk to your nearest
    record store immediately and buy this one...it rocks!

    LA Guns ROCKED last night.  Their set was great...the best part was the 
    Malaraia -- Sex Action segue!!  The bassist is sick, and not currently 
    on the tour...Mick Crips is playing bass, and there's no rhythm guitar!
    The band worked pretty well though as a 3 piece...Tracii handled all
    the guitar chores admirably!
    
    I had fun!
    
    

    
    RE: Bill\
    
    Thanks for the review, I can't wait to see them.  I'm going to the
    Living Room tom. night!!! - Kim

    Yeah, the Guns sounded good...too bad there were some real flaming
    a**holes in the crowd....you know the type...they've just got to stomp
    all over you to get right in front of the band......they'd make good 
    poster children for Birth Control......I'm wearing my combat attire at 
    the Living room tomorrow night....i saw a few leather coats with extremely
    pointy hardware...now i know why................/k

    What??....no reviews of the Living Room show?....you people must be
    slipping............i loved it....the guns seemed more casual than when 
    they appeared in Boston and so i enjoyed it more....the Choirboys had the 
    place rockin too.....and what amazed me is that the crowd seemed really
    well behaved.....at least that's how it looked from where i stood...
    everyone just seemed to be having a good time.......i don't know if the
    show ever got sold out, i had advance tix but they were selling them
    when i showed up around 11pm.........i can't imagine that it didn't get
    sold out....i only ran into a few people that i knew which was
    surprising........anybody else have anything to say about the show?
    /k......who didn't need the body armour that night
    
    

    
    
    I thought the show was great.  I was pretty surprised when I saw
    them selling tickets at the door too.  I've never seen what the
    Quireboys looked like until Friday night.  I thought the singer
    looked like Tamie Downe (Is that right - the singer from Faster
    Pussycat) and the guitarist had a Slash copy cat top hat.  I only
    caught about 2 songs.  Not really a fan.  But, La Guns Rocked. I
    was physed when they played cuts from their first album which I
    haven't heard in a while.
    
    - Kim

    You'ze is no to blam! SUmtims spilling and tiping don look sooo good, 
    
    
    
    
    
    As for L.A. Guns, their show was pretty good, at least for Pueblo. They
    was energetic and got the crowd involved. 

    Oh man!  I wish you'd reminded me about that show...  I've been wanting
    to see them more since picking up the new tape.  It rocks!
    
    Greg

    Could any of you that saw LA Guns since Cocked & Loaded came out tell
    me what kind of guitars Traci was playing?  I was recently reading in
    the Fender "Frontline" propaganda rag about him playing Strats (and he
    had one in both the vids I've seen off Cocked & Loaded).
    
    I was screwing around with my Strat last night and happened on
    something similar to the intro to Malaria.  I was hyped.
    
    gh

    Yo, gh...
    
    When I saw the Guns...Tracii didn't touch a strat the entire evening!!!
    I know he's been playin em in all their videos of late, and I saw them
    on some late nite teen rock show recently, and Tracii was playin a 
    black strat ala Clapton's Blackie for the tune Sex Action, but, Tracii
    mainly used a Les Paul STD and Performance Guitars hybrid strat (maple
    22ft neck, humbucker and two singles, and a Floyd) for the CITI gig in
    Boston!  The Perforance was the main git he used throughout the nite.
    
    Although, he has switched from Marshall to Fender `The Twin' stacks!
    
    Buck

    From what I could see, Tracii performed the intro to Malaria something
    like what is TABed below:
    
    e----------------------------------------------------------------------
    b----------------------------------------------------------------------
    g--------------------------------------------------------12-(o)-5-(o)--
    d-----------------------12-(o)-5-(o)----------12-(o)-5-(o)-------------
    a------------12-(o)-5-(o)----------12-(o)-5-(o)------------------------
    e-12-(o)-5-(o)---------------------------------------------------------
      T      T    T     T    T     T    T     T    T     T    T     T  
    
    e----------------------------------------------------------------------
    b----------------------------------------------------------------------
    g----------------------------------------------------------------------
    d-12-(o)-5-(o)----------12-(o)-5-(o)-----------------------------------
    a------------12-(o)-5-(o)----------12-(o)-5-(o)----------12-(o)-5-(o)--
    e---------------------------------------------12-(o)-5-(o)-------------
      T      T    T     T    T     T    T     T    T     T    T     T  
    
    e----------------------------------------------------------------------
    b----------------------------------------------------------------------
    g----------------------------------12-(o)-5-(o)------------------------
    d-12-(o)-5-(o)----------12-(o)-5-(o)----------12-(o)-5-(o)-------------
    a------------12-(o)-5-(o)--------------------------------12-(o)-5-(o)--
    e----------------------------------------------------------------------
      T      T    T     T    T     T    T     T    T     T    T     T  
    
    
    Etc. etc...

    Thanks Buck!  
    
    That's pretty wild, him going on about how Strats are great and all in
    the interview they published and then not using one.
    
    Actually, I like the feel of the newer Strats.  They're using a flatter
    neck radius and a nice satin finish on the maple boards these days and
    I must say it's a pretty nice feel.
    
    Greg

    Can't wait for the new LA Guns release...coming at the end of March
    
    YEAH!

      _    /|   
      \'o.O'    
      =(___)=   Aack!!!
         U      
    
    I heard the new LA Guns single last night on AAF (the new album was
    released to the stores yesterday!), and it sux(tm) big time!!  It
    sounds like a cross between Faster Pussycat and Extreme (not implying
    that either of those two bands really suck, but it sux for LA Guns,
    cuz their last album was way rockin, and this single is funk-pop $#!t.

    
    Hollywood Vampires got a glowing review from one  of the HM mags
    here(Kerrap) 5 out of 5

    Buck...
         That means I better pick it up!8*)
    I heard some of the promo tape and it does sound a bit "bland".
    
               Frizkid
    

    Oh MAN, don't tell me that!  LA Guns used to ROCK!
    
    :-(
    
    gh (who'll probably still check it out)

I heard a 5-song sampler from the album, and I thought it was really good!
That includes the single, which I've heard a couple times - I liked it!

alan

    Hey Buck have you heard the new la guns?

    NOt yet...just that one lame-o tune.  I need to go CD shopping,
    maybe sometime next week over to Coconuts.  About 15 things I need to
    get!

    you'll LOVE it! 

    Mtv NEWS:
    
       TRACII GUNNS was fired from L.A. GUNS last weekend due to 
    musical differences.
    
                      They went on to say how it probably won't hurt him
    any.
    
                      He was the founder??!? What a stange world....
    
    
                                 Frizkid
    

    >Mtv NEWS:
    >
    >   TRACII GUNNS was fired from L.A. GUNS last weekend due to 
    >musical differences.
    
    W H A T ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    
    Well, that makes Tracii two for zero (He was fired from the *original*
    Guns n Roses lineup!).  *I* think Tracii is the coolest thing about
    LA Guns, and think they "new guns" will suck, as did Accept when Udo
    left!
    
    >                  He was the founder??!? What a stange world....
    
    Yes, he WAS the founder.  But then again, Robin Crosby was the founder
    of RATT, and look at his fate!!  Must be something in the LA water 
    supply these days!
    
    Some people don't know the meaning of the word respect!  
    
                      

    Maybe Tracii (sp?) will make Contraband a permanent thing.  
    
    BTW - Tracii is from Phoenix.

    That really sucks!  Even has his NAME in the band name and they want to
    dump him???  Sheesh...
    
    gh (who also sez that Tracii was the best part of that band)

    His name is Guns N Roses, too, guess it didn't make any difference
    there either...

    So who's got the rights to the name LA Guns?  If he does, then I guess
    they'll have to change their name.
    
    Ken
    

    I noticed that Paul put a note in the Concerts note about LA Guns
    having an upcoming concert.  Naturally since it's somewhere in the
    North-east, I can't attend, but I'm curious to know if Tracii Guns is
    still playing with them or not.  Anyone know for sure?
    
    gh

    gh...
    
    Here is your review -- 
    
    The LA Guns/Tracii splity was obviously a publicity stunt.  Tracii
    was there last night, and... (see below for more)
    
    
    Last year, I saw LA GUNS rock CITI (Now Avalon Ballroom).  It was the
    first date of the 2nd leg of their Cocked & Loaded tour.  Their Bassist
    (don't know his name) had a motorcycle accident just days before, so
    he was going to catch up with them later.  Guitarist Mick Cripps filled
    in on bass for the evening.  The band totally rocked out!!  I was very
    impressed.
    
    This year, the bassist was back, and Mick was back on guitar.  What was
    interesting is, you didn't miss him (or wouldn't have missed him had he
    been gone!).  Tracii carries this whole band, plain n simple!!!  While
    Tracii is no Yngwie Malmsteen, he doesn't need to be...he plays well in
    the context of LA GUNS music, and really sets the groove for the rest of
    the band...no wonder the band is named after him!
    
    The set opened well.  They came out blasting with 3 songs in
    seccession.  This helped keep the pace going great, but the 4th song was 
    a mid-tempo groove thing, which threw the set pace off kilter.  Then
    they did Ballard of Jane, which mired the set even more.  BoJ was
    followed by Sleezy Come, Sleezy Go, and Rip n Tear...two more mid-tempo
    rockers that just never seemed to get the set back up to the high-energy
    level they started off with.  They vocalist sounded great on most tunes,
    but the transposed Ballard of ane sounded very "off", and the missing
    vocals on Malaria (couldn't hit the notes) were very noticeable.  I
    guess what bugs me is he didn't try to compensate.
    
    On the other hand?  Tracii was using modified Fender guitars ofr the
    recording of Cocked and Loaded, and a lot of stuff has whammy bar-isms
    on it.  Last year Tracii switched on and off with the modified Fender
    and a Gibson Les Paul STD.  This year Tracii came out with a black
    Les Paul STD, and never got rid of it!!  He made use of bending the
    neck via the headstock (ouch!) to make up for no vibrato arm.  Also
    gone are Tracii's fender stacks.  Replaced with 3 Randall stacks, with
    the new 100wt all valve heads.  Sounded good...better than the Fenders
    ...less "grainy".
    
    Mick Cripps was using a Les Paul STD thru JCM 800-based Marshall Stacks.
    The bassist still had a Fender endorsement, tho.
    
    All in all, LA GUNS were great, but the only thing weird was their set,
    to which I plan to write them a FYI letter about it (the show could
    have been great with a better song arrangement).
    
    **************************************************************************
    
    Boa and some other weird band from LA opened the show.  Boa was Boa ...
    they are a good band, but again there are things about thgem and their
    set that bug me, and I would change if I could.
    
    The poser band from LA was just AWFUL!!  A classic example of too much
    makeup, quasi-transvestite clothing, mucho facial and body poses, and
    lame songs make up for one really lousy band.  The highlight of this
    set was when one of the bassist bleached-out dreadlock hair extensions
    fell off!

    re:-1......hahahahhaha!!...his hair fell off??...i'm sorry i missed
    that........and the show......thanks for the review Buck!........./k

    So Tracii was using a Les Paul, huh?  Who would have figured?  I kind
    of liked the modified Fender sound from Cocked & Loaded myself.  He's
    obviously dropped his Fender endorcement, so no more Fender/Heartfield
    guitars and amps.
    
    I noticed a Randall ad with him in last month's Guitar Player mag and I
    thought it was kind of odd.  Seems like every Randall amp I've heard
    has this nasty high end distortion sounding thing that really grates on
    me.  Nice to hear they didn't sound bad for him.  
    
    He was also holding an IBANEZ guitar in that ad.  I'm starting to lose
    respect here, he's turning into an endorcement slut like Reb Beach!
    
    I donno about the new direction LA Guns is going.  I bought Hollywood
    Vampires awhile back and listened to it a couple of times and ended up
    listening to other stuff instead.  It was *ok*, but just didn't seem to
    have the energy of the earlier material.  Kind of boring actually, I
    was disappointed.
    
    gh
    
    (PS don't tell Jamii about the Les Paul/Randall rig, ok Friz? He'll be
    out shoppin...)

    >So Tracii was using a Les Paul, huh?  Who would have figured?  I kind
    >of liked the modified Fender sound from Cocked & Loaded myself.  He's
    >obviously dropped his Fender endorcement, so no more Fender/Heartfield
    >guitars and amps.
    >
    >I noticed a Randall ad with him in last month's Guitar Player mag and I
    >thought it was kind of odd.  
    >
    >He was also holding an IBANEZ guitar in that ad.  I'm starting to lose
    >respect here, he's turning into an endorcement slut like Reb Beach!
    
    Really...lets look at this --
    
    Amps endorsed by Tracii in last 3 years: 	Guitars in last 3 years:
    
    o Marshall                                  o BC Rich
    o Fender                                    o Fender
    o Hiwatt                                    o Heartfield
    o Marshall                                  o Gibson
    o Randall                                   o Ibanez
    
    I think it comes down to...Tracii don't have a lot of bucks, AND he
    sounds the same through whatever he plays, so...  ???  (wtf syndrome)
    
    
    >Seems like every Randall amp I've heard has this nasty high end 
    >distortion sounding thing that really grates on me.  Nice to hear 
    >they didn't sound bad for him.  
    
    Sounded a lot like the Randall's that Tesla used on their TGRC album.
    They are the smae amps, fwiw.
    

    >I donno about the new direction LA Guns is going.  I bought Hollywood
    >Vampires awhile back and listened to it a couple of times and ended up
    >listening to other stuff instead.  It was *ok*, but just didn't seem to
    >have the energy of the earlier material.  Kind of boring actually, I
    >was disappointed.
    
    It's weird...the energy didn't transfer well to disk like it did on
    C&L.  Live, songs from Hollywood Vampires *really* rocked out, tho.
    They're def. no slouches in the live act dept.
    
    In fact, LA GUNS goes into my Top 3 live band list --
    
    1. Ramones
    2. KIX
    3. LA Guns
    
    
    PS - Tracii suffers from DAFS in a BIG way!!

>    Amps endorsed by Tracii in last 3 years: 	Guitars in last 3 years:
>    
>    o Marshall                                  o BC Rich
>    o Fender                                    o Fender
>    o Hiwatt                                    o Heartfield
>    o Marshall                                  o Gibson
>    o Randall                                   o Ibanez
 
    Man, that may be *worse* then Reb Beach!  Did he actually *endorce*
    Marshall and Gibson or just use them?  I think there's a difference.
       
    But you're right, I think he's the kind of player that's going to sound
    almost the same no matter what he plays through...
    
>    It's weird...the energy didn't transfer well to disk like it did on
>    C&L.  Live, songs from Hollywood Vampires *really* rocked out, tho.
>    They're def. no slouches in the live act dept.
    
    That's real good to hear, since I thought the album was lacking on
    energy (overall, there were a couple of good rockin songs).
    
>    PS - Tracii suffers from DAFS in a BIG way!!
    
    Yipe!  Not the DAFS!!!
    
    gh (who says F. will be in here in a minute saying he was like in a
        fire or an accident or some other reason for it...)  ;^)
                                                                

    >Man, that may be *worse* then Reb Beach!  
    
    Well, lets see...Tracii endorsed 5 different amps and 5 different
    guitar brands.
    
    
    >Did he actually *endorce* Marshall and Gibson or just use them?  
    >I think there's a difference.
     
    He actually DID a Gibson endorsement...Marshall, well he was in
    Marshall Law saying this and that, but to my understanding Marshall
    does not do endorsements...this is foggy as how do those full page ads 
    in GP with Yngwie, Steve Stevens, Buddy Guy, etc. pan out for the
    players?!?!?
    
    Reb Beach --
    
    AMPS:			GUITARS:
    
    1. Kitty Hawk		1. Kramer
    2. Marshall			2. Pensa-Suhr
    3. Carvin			3. Carvin
    4. Rocktron ProGap		4. Ibanez
    
    Hmmm, guess he *is* worse!!!
    8^)
      

>>    PS - Tracii suffers from DAFS in a BIG way!!
    
  >  Yipe!  Not the DAFS!!!
   
    YES...that horrid DAFS!  Twas even worse than Geoff Tate!!
     

>    He actually DID a Gibson endorsement...Marshall, well he was in
>    Marshall Law saying this and that, but to my understanding Marshall
>    does not do endorsements...this is foggy as how do those full page ads 
>    in GP with Yngwie, Steve Stevens, Buddy Guy, etc. pan out for the
>    players?!?!?
 
    They probably pay them for doing the ad, but don't provide them with
    equipment.
       
>    Reb Beach --
>    
>    AMPS:			GUITARS:
>    
>    1. Kitty Hawk		1. Kramer
>    2. Marshall			2. Pensa-Suhr
>    3. Carvin			3. Carvin
>    4. Rocktron ProGap		4. Ibanez
    
    Wait, I'm sure there were more amps he did then that, didn't he do
    Randall for awhile too?  I don't think he actually endorced Pensa-Suhr,
    since they're all custom made instruments.  He did talk them up in
    interviews though.
    
>    Hmmm, guess he *is* worse!!!

    Looks like it in terms of guitars and amps, but he's not in like every
    ad for strings, cords, straps, etc. like Reb was for awhile there...
    
>    YES...that horrid DAFS!  Twas even worse than Geoff Tate!!
 
    Woah, no WAY!!!    
    
    gh
                                                                        

    >They probably pay them for doing the ad, but don't provide them with
    >equipment.
     
    Possibly.

    >Wait, I'm sure there were more amps he did then that, didn't he do
    >Randall for awhile too?  
    
    Donno.
    
    >I don't think he actually endorced Pensa-Suhr,
    >since they're all custom made instruments.  He did talk them up in
    >interviews though.
    
    Hmmm, maybe you're right.

    >Looks like it in terms of guitars and amps, but he's not in like every
    >ad for strings, cords, straps, etc. like Reb was for awhile there...
    
    This is true...Reb's ugly mutt was like on every other page it seemed!

    
>>    YES...that horrid DAFS!  Twas even worse than Geoff Tate!!
    
    >Woah, no WAY!!!    
    
    WAY!

DAFS.  Wagagagagaa...

FWIW - Tracii was also in the latest ADA Trends sharing his
favorite MP1 presets used on their latest effort.  Go figure...

jc (Who can only play one amp at a time...Well, almost)

The presets sucked, btw.
:)

> FWIW - Tracii was also in the latest ADA Trends sharing his
> favorite MP1 presets used on their latest effort.  Go figure...
    
    Mp-1???  No WONDER the new album sounded so THIN!  Yuk-o!
    
    re: Coop (hating Tracii's presets)
    
    ...then again you hated all the presets that Buck, myself, and others
    liked the most.  If Tracii's were anything like that, we'd probably
    love 'em.
    
    gh
                                      

No, no...  I liked the presets Buck sent me...  It was yours I didn't like.
Believe it or not, Buckley and I have very similar tastes in what sounds
hip...  And he plays an M word amp !  :)   Wagagaga...

jc

>Believe it or not, Buckley and I have very similar tastes in what sounds
>hip... 
    
    
    Ahem...*my* M word EQ is not set p-10 b-10 m-0 t-10 !!!
    
    
    > And he plays an M word amp !  :)   Wagagaga...
    
    Damn straight!!!

I know it's not... And beleive it or not, neither is mine.  :)
But you're Mp1 presets were quite similar to what I use now (and then).

jc

>No, no...  I liked the presets Buck sent me...  It was yours I didn't like.
    
    Must have been my *playing* you didn't like, 'cause my presets were
    closer to yours then to his.  Buck had the mids sky high in all his.  I 
    didn't have mine that high, never above +6, and I did have the bass 
    boosted quite a bit, more like your's.
    
>Believe it or not, Buckley and I have very similar tastes in what sounds
>hip...  
    
    Not when *I've* talked to the two of ya, you guys *never* agree on guitar
    tones!
    
>    And he plays an M word amp !  :)   Wagagaga...
 
    All the hip players do...
    
    ;^)       

    Steven Riley has left L.A. Guns....
    
        BUmmer!
                   Frizkid
    

    Mega bummer...
    
    Buck, who feels da Guns are goin down da tubes!

    LA Guns performed a couple of songs live on MTV this weekend.  They
    were playing (in the rain, looked like) at Daytona Beach as part of
    MTV's Spring Break special.
    
    I only caught the second half of one song, and then the last song of
    their set ("Some Lie For Love"), so I was kind of bummed that I didn't
    see the whole thing.  I don't think they could have done more then
    three songs though.  
    
    FWIW, I didn't care for Mick Cripps sound that much (when I could hear
    it, the mix was whacked).  Tracii was playing a Washburn Nuno-like
    guitar and it sounded good, but he was too loud.  The vocals sounded
    totally dry and believe me, that dude *needed* some effects or
    something!
    
    All in all, I'd watch it again, but it wasn't what I'd call a top
    notch performance.  Watch for reruns of that segment, I'm sure MTV will
    play the heck out of it like they always do with these things.  FWIW,
    Markey Mark, PM Dawn, and someone else also played in the same segment
    (weird mix of stuff...)
                           
    Glh

    Greg: It was Marky Mark, P.M. Dawn, L.A. GUNS and MR. BIG.
    
     LA GUNS did 'It's over now' and 'Some lie for love' both did pretty
    cool! Did you notice LA GUNS has their new drummer? His name is
    'Bones'.  He did a good good...
    
     Mr. Big did a 'Just take my heart' and 'To be with you'.
    
               Frizkid
    

    >                   -< Bones just got out of prison. >-

    and he can sit on that drummers throne?!?
    
    >Greg: It was Marky Mark, P.M. Dawn, L.A. GUNS and MR. BIG.
    
    Greg tuned in for his Idol, Marky Mark!!  Greg wants to have pecs juts
    like his!!
    
    
    >LA GUNS did 'It's over now' and 'Some lie for love' both did pretty
    >cool! 
    
    I thought it was a marginal performance.  They're much better live and
    in person.
    
    >Did you notice LA GUNS has their new drummer? His name is
    >'Bones'.  He did a good good...
    
    That's better than a bad bad, eh?  He was solid...I don't think most
    people noticed.
    
    
    >Mr. Big did a 'Just take my heart' and 'To be with you'.
    
    Hate this band!

    Since when have you hated Mr. Big?
    
                Now that they're getting recognition you hate em'?
    
          Frizkid
    

    
    	I want my hair the exact color of the lead singer in
    	Mr. Big.
    
    	JJ who's bummin' that she missed the whole thing.  I knew it
    		was gonna be on and then forgot to put it back on
    		eMpTy tV.
    

It must've been on *10* times JJ !!!

jc (Who grew tired of it quickly)

    re: JJ
    
    Don't sweat it, just tune in.  It'll rerun 'till the cows come home.
    
>>Greg: It was Marky Mark, P.M. Dawn, L.A. GUNS and MR. BIG.
>    
>    Greg tuned in for his Idol, Marky Mark!!  Greg wants to have pecs juts
>    like his!!
 
    Sure thing there, BuckyBob!  Actually, that was the reason I missed the
    first song by both LA Guns & MrBig...I couldn't stomach the other crap
    and flipped through the channels waiting for them to be over.  
    
    ...but Marky Mark does have killer pecs.   ;^)  
    
    Wish *I* had about 2-3 free hours a day to work out, maybe I could have
    some too.  I have pecs like a lizard.
    
>    I thought it was a marginal performance.  They're much better live and
>    in person.
 
    I thought it was cool to see them out performing, but wasn't all that
    impressed with it.
       
>    >Did you notice LA GUNS has their new drummer? His name is
>    >'Bones'.  He did a good good...
>    
>    That's better than a bad bad, eh?  He was solid...I don't think most
>    people noticed.
 
    I didn't...   
    
    gh

    
    
    	Hmmm.  Well then I guess I just have bad timing!  =)
    

    Anyone going to see THE GUNS in (sex) ACTION tomorrow nite at Axis??

    ....yup......be there...or be obtuse..........................;').../k

    L.A. GUNS are releasing a E.P. of all punk song for release in Japan
    only. 
    
                      Friz
    

    DON'T YOU DARE!!!

    Hmmm...
    
    What albums have LA Guns released  ??
    
    I've got Cocked And Loaded (AWESOME!) and I know how to play a tune
    off of Hollywood Vampires called "Kiss My Love Goodbye" (but i've not
    heard the damn thing !)... (killer tune I might add :)
    
    Anyway, I know of those two albums - is there another  ??  I was cleaning
    house getting ready to move and found a tape that Scary gave me a LONG
    time ago with LA Guns written on it, but no title.  Is there a third
    album I don't know about ??
    
    How about a discography from a hardcore LAG fan ??
    
    jc

    Discography to date:
    
    LA GUNS -- Ditto
            -- Cocked & Loaded 
            -- Hollywood Vampires
    
    
    Dats it...only 3 of em

    Seriously.....L.A. Guns are history.
    
     Tracii was fired.  Phil wanted to do weird songs and the band didn't
    want to ...So he bailed.  Then they said "We suck we might as well give
    it up.
    
     Or at least that's what I heard from them last.
    
         Friz
    

    Must be "Ditto" I'm listening to then.
    
    I want Hollywood Vampires BAD !  I'd like to hear how that
    tune goes mon!
    
    Thanks Buck, I knew I could count on ya!
    jc (Grungin' it up with LA Guns today)
    

    Coop,
    
    The "Ditto" album had a hit called SEX ACTION.
    

    Come down here Coop....They're playing light jazz at full volume!
    
               Friz<
    

    Oh - I'll listen for it.
    
    Whats with the EX ?  You playin' tribute to WendyO ?
    :)

    The first (self titled) album had a killer song that I can't remember
    the name of.  Something Highway, or Highway something or something
    about a highway or something like that (I'm sure someone will remind
    me...).  They had a video for it with them all riding Harley's around.
    
    That tune absolutely *cranked*!!!  I thought the minor hit "Sex Action"
    was mostly lame.
    
    My analysis of their discography is that the first album had a couple
    of gems, but was mostly filler material.  Cocked and Loaded rocked all
    the way through, consistantly killer.  And Hollywood Vampires was like
    their first album again, a couple of good songs and a bunch of mediocre
    stuff.
    
    Coop: Hollywood Vampires, borrow it from me before you buy it... 
    Caveat Emptor.
    
    gh

    
    	"Electric Gypsy"
    
    							GTI
    

    Yeah, that's the one!  Crankin!!
    
    gh

    FWIW-I read once again....L.A. GUNS have put it back together!!!!
    SHEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!! I'm getting sick of reporting on
    these guys...It's like a freakin' SOAP OPERA!!!!  
    Next time I hear they broke up I'm not saying SH*T! 8)
    
        Friz
    

    I just heard the tail end of the new Guns, tune, didn't catch the
    title though. Sounds like LA Guns, nothing new or too different,
    I believe its called Vicous Circle. From what I heard it sounds
    pretty good, if you like LA Guns.
    
    Bob

    	Well, the new CD is called Vicious Circle. Not bad still, giving
    it a few listens. I just noticed, that, they don't have a drummer
    anymore, and there was 6 different drummers on the CD. New/Old drummer,
    Bones does 6 songs, Myron Grombacher 4, Nickey Alexander 1, Doni
    Grey 1, Old drummer Steve Riley 1, and Guitarist Mick Cripps drum
    programmed 1. 
    
    	Its a different style of LA Guns, more raunchey guitar, but
    at the same time quite a few slow songs. Does anyone know whos drumming
    on tour, and if any or all those other drummers were studio drummers
    or drummers from other bands.
    
    Bob 

    
    	Excellent cover of "I'd Love to Change the World" by these guys!!
    
    	Haven't listened to the whole album yet.
    

    
    	I really like this CD, that cover is excellent. There is also a
    song that the bassist sings that is really good as well...Had it
    crankin' this weekend...
    
    Bobby T