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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Thu May 05 1988
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541.0. "Blue Murder" by 17736::BRONSON () Fri May 12 1989 14:24

       I picked up a new album this past weekend at the last minute.When I
    arrived home I put it on the turntable and cranked it up.My first
    impression was ...I've heard that sound before....The band I am
    referring to is BLUE MURDER...The album is great and since the key
    person is the same John Sykes of WHITESNAKE no wonder it sounded
    familiar.The album is a great follow up for Sykes as you can see
    why the WHITESNAKE album was so successful.His new band will be
    equally successful.
    
               Blue Murder is ..... John Sykes
                                    Tony Franklin
                                    Carmen Appice
    
    
    
                         R.B.
    
    
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541.1reposted for your interestHAZEL::STARRLike a fool, fell in love with you...Fri May 12 1989 14:3626
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HAZEL::STARR "You ain't nothin' but fine, fine, fin" 18 lines   5-OCT-1988 11:37
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WGIR (Mike Jones - great HM DJ!) had Carmine Appice on last night for
a lengthy interview, and they talked about Blue Murder, his new
group. The lineup is Carmine on drums, Tony Franklin (of the Firm)
on bass, and John Sykes (Whitesnake, Thin Lizzy) on guitar and vocals.
Sykes wrote all the songs. The album is produced by Bob Rock (Bon
Jovi, Aerosmith, Kingdom Come, etc.). 

According to Carmine, the album sounds a lot like a followup to
the last Whitesnake album, with very similiar songs. He also said
that he feels this is the best band he's *ever* been in - and he's
been in a lot (Rod Stewart, Ozzy Osbourne, Vanilla Fudge, King
Kobra, etc., etc.).

The first song is due January, 1989. Keep an eye out for it!

BTW, he also said that he played drums on some of the last Floyd LP!

cat
541.2Yeah I heard itNEEPS::IRVINEAsk &amp; Ye Shall Learn!Fri May 12 1989 15:3412
    I too have gotten this Album. I don't really like it but yes it
    is very much in the "Whitesnake" genere. The overall production
    on the CD that is sounded a bit too "Muddy" for my tastes but WTF.
    
    I seem to remember that the Album/Cassette/CD were all mastered
    by different people so this could account for varying reviews.
    (Depending on the Media Reviewed)
    
    I suppose the album will grow on me but it hasn't had the same impact
    on me that the 1987 Whitesnake Album had.
    
    Bonzo (in truely critical mode)
541.3Growing pains..17736::BRONSONFri May 12 1989 17:2410
    
    RE:-1
            I grew into the '87 Whitesnake album as I am finding out I'm
    doing with the Blue Murder album.I think that is what keeps any album
    in the charts for over 50 weeks is that is has to grow on you.ie..
    Whitesnake,Def L,and now Blue Murder.I played the album twice last
    night and found each time that a different song would grab me....Sykes
    plays a pretty good guitar and definitely has his own style..
    
                     R.B.
541.4RAVEN1::WHITBYLife without the Ozone.,...Boring!Fri May 12 1989 20:027
    
    
    	I saw a Blue Murder vid the other night on Mtv, can't remember
    	the name of it though. My first thought was, it's gonna be one
    	of those "it grows on kinda song's". 
    
    	Hollywood...........I don't remember much at all from that night 
541.5Tasteful, YES ... glow in the dark, nope ...RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEIF VOLUME .LT. 9 GOTO 10Sat May 13 1989 04:0311
    The thing that really grabbed me the first time I heard the album
    was the bizzare sounds coming from using s fretless bass !  Even
    though it's not listed in my "head bangin" section, I think it's
    a very tasteful piece of work.  Back to the bass ... can anybody
    tell me if the bass player for Blue Murder is the same guy that
    played for The Firm ?  Sure sounds like him, but I can't remember
    what he looked like.
    
    
    				Scary ...
    
541.6yup!HAZEL::STARRLike a fool, fell in love with you...Sat May 13 1989 06:378
> Back to the bass ... can anybody
> tell me if the bass player for Blue Murder is the same guy that
> played for The Firm ?  Sure sounds like him, but I can't remember
> what he looked like.

Same guy.....

cat
541.7Same Guy....TELALL::KUCZYNSKIFri Jun 02 1989 12:336
    Yes he is the same guy from the Firm, it was mentioned earlier but
    you may not have read the prvious replies.
    
    Same guy!
    
    
541.8Wasting My Time?RAVEN1::B_ADAMSTue Jun 06 1989 01:0411
      I just heard this song called "Just wasting my time!" Sounds like
    the guys from Blue Murder!
    
     Am I correct?
    
     Neat song!
    
    
    B.A.
    
    
541.9Blue Murder or James Patrick Page?HAZEL::STARRWhat do ya do when you get lonely...?Tue Jun 06 1989 01:238
>      I just heard this song called "Just wasting my time!" Sounds like
>    the guys from Blue Murder!
    
I haven't heard anything from Blue Murder, so it could be. But there was a
song released by Jimmy Page last year off his solo album that was called
"Wasting My Time", which may be what you're talking about. Not sure, though.

cat
541.10CHEFS::DALLISONThats some catch that Katch 22Tue Jun 06 1989 07:474
    
    "Wasting my Time" isn't on the Blue Murder album.
    
    Maybe Badlands ??
541.11USCTR1::KGALLANTEvil thoughts and evil doin'...Tue Jun 06 1989 12:508
    
    
    	Isn't the Badlands newly released song called "Dream"
    	something or other?!?
    
    	I tend to agree with Cat about the Jimmy Page song.
    	
    	Tigga~~
541.12thumbs down on the singleHAZEL::STARRWhat do ya do when you get lonely...?Wed Jun 07 1989 04:2916
I saw the Blue Murder video ("Valley of the Kings"?) on MTV tonight. Wow,
was I disappointed!!! I thought the song bit the big one, and was really
just trash!

I was soooo psyched to hear this album, now I'm not so sure. The only slightly
redeeming part was Sykes soloing, which was decent. But the rest was just a 
mush of weak songwriting, poor production, and way-too-bombastic builds.

Reminded me of a heavier version of Asia or GTR, whom I also hated. I hope 
the rest of the album is an improvement over that song....

Oh - one other good thing to say - Carmine's drums sounded pretty good, 
when I could hear them thru the muck (although I think he overplayed on the 
record....).

a disappointed cat
541.13FM madness..17736::BRONSONWed Jun 07 1989 12:108
    
    One tune off the album I find pretty good is "Jellyroll"..The album
    grows on you the more you play it.I called our local FM album station
    and they said that they'd only play Blue Murder at night because it's
    too hard for daytime ears....That strikes me as funny..they must be the
    same people that voted 'Tull as the Heavy Metal Band Of the Millenium!
    
                          R.B.
541.14USCTR1::KGALLANTSo DON'T! ya get fresh with me...Wed Jun 07 1989 13:3017
    
    
    	Question for all you name-associated-with-the-face folks.. 
    
    	There are three guys in the band and I know that Carmine
    	Appice is on drums, but the other two I'm confused about.
    
    	In one of the earlier replies, I thought someone had said
    	that John Norum (formerly of Europe??) was the lead singer.
    	I thought he was the other guitar player (bass?? rhythm??
    	lead?? ..i can never remember)
    
        Once and for all...which one is Sykes and which one is
    	Norum??
    
    	Tigga~~~
    	
541.15NEEPS::IRVINEThe Answer: 42 or The BeatlesWed Jun 07 1989 14:0213
    Tigga~~
    
    John Sykes is the Guitarist and Vocalist..... the Bass player used
    to be with the FIRM but I can never remember his name.
    
    The only track I liked on the album was :"Black Hearted Woman":
    the problem is it sound a bit like an old Rainbow song!      
    
    
    BonzoZ
    
             
    
541.16HAZEL::STARRWhat do ya do when you get lonely...?Wed Jun 07 1989 14:087
>    John Sykes is the Guitarist and Vocalist..... the Bass player used
>    to be with the FIRM but I can never remember his name.
    
Tony Franklin is the bass player. John Norum is not involved with the group at 
all....

cat
541.17USCTR1::KGALLANTSo DON'T! ya get fresh with me...Wed Jun 07 1989 14:2310
    
    
    	Oops...sorry about that.  I meant Sykes and Franklin.
    	Don't ask me where I got Norum from!!!!  Egad..thinking
    	about (gulp) Europe?!?!  Ewwwwwwwwww..... (8
    
    	I guess the cute one that doesn't play drums and doesn't
    	sing lead.  Who's he??
    
    	Franklin, right??
541.18White Murder?SIGME::KARRFALTI'm a junky for youWed Jun 07 1989 17:0111
	Sorry folks, but I have to agree with .12 about the single.  I saw 
the video  last week sometime and after hearing the VJ really hype it up for
about 2 minutes, I was really looking forward to hearing it.  Needless to say,
I was greatly disappointed.  It just seemed so deliberatly commercial and mass 
produced and didn't seem to have any real personality.

	I like Carmen Appice and Tony Franklin, but the singer/guitarist 
doesn't do anything for me.  Did someone mention Whitesnake?  That was the
first thing that popped into my head while I was watching it.

				Brad_who_dispises_Whitesnake 
541.19Jelly RollRIGEL4::JBONNOMon Jul 10 1989 15:2612
    
    Has anyone seen the new Blue Murder video, for the song "Jellyroll"?
    The song is really good, and the video is pretty good too.  Not
    a lot of band shots, but there are a lot of Sykes and some girl.
    
    I was reading an article about Sykes in "Guitar".  He is a pretty
    cool dude.  He was telling how he was fired from Whitesnake.  He
    said he never knew he was fired until he stopped getting a paycheck.
    He called Geffen and they told him he had been fired.  Coverdale
    is a real jerk.
    
    jab 
541.20USCTR1::KGALLANTWhat's he like anyway...Mon Jul 10 1989 17:338
    
    
    	Could possibly be his wife.  I know he's married and has
    	a little boy.
    
    	Hmmm....
    
    	Tigga~~
541.21RIGEL4::JBONNOMon Jul 10 1989 20:219
    
    Something to think about as (in the words of your other note) the
    day drags on..............and on..........and on..
    
    jab (who_got_used_to_four_day_weekends!)
    
    p.s.  The thing that got a little old in the video was looking at
    him standing in the rain.  Maybe it was nice for you women out there,
    though!.
541.22USCTR1::KGALLANTWhat's he like anyway...Mon Jul 10 1989 20:246
    
    	Guess I'll have to go back and watch it again.  I Fast 
    	forwarded through it the first time.
    
    	Tigga~~ (who happened to be in a rush the morning the watched
    		it!)
541.23RIGEL4::JBONNOMon Jul 10 1989 20:426
    
    re:.22
    Yes, please watch again.  I will expect a report first thing tomorrow
    morning.
    
    jab (only 15 more minutes left in a very long day)
541.24Blue Murder opening for Bon JoviRIGEL4::JBONNOMon Jul 17 1989 18:1912
    	
    Oh, I am so p*ssed off!!!!!! Bon Jovi and his boys are playing a
    gig in Atlanta this Thursday.  I have already seen them and I really
    didn't want to go again, especially when I found out that Bad English
    was opening up.
    
    So what happens now, Bad English cancels and Blue Murder is touring
    with Bon Jovi.  I would love to see Sykes, Franklin, and Appice.
    But the concert is just about sold out.  Oh well, I guess I will
    just see them another time.
    
    jab
541.25the license is on the bomper occifer...SCOBIE::BHASTYTue Jan 08 1991 16:279
    I happened to catch B.M. in Balt. And I have to say they were quite
    impressive!!! The band was tight as sh*t and sound incredible!!!
    Mr.Sykes also put on one hell of a guitar clinic that truely made me
    wonder why the hell did Whitesnake ever get rid of this guy in the
    first place but thank God they did!!! Definetly one of my all time
    favorite shows!!!!
                
    
                                            The "B."
541.26HOW MANY BANDS CAN CARMINE PLAY IN?COMET::FRISBYAWed Mar 13 1991 15:5610
    ATTENTION   *****************************ATTENTIION
    
    Carmine Appice has left BLUE MURDER!
    
       But SYKES & FRANKLIN will continue with another drummer!
      
        His name is unknown so far but I will try and find out!
    
                      R A G M A N N
    
541.27I'm so blue....SCOBIE::BHASTYTue Jun 25 1991 16:298
    has there been any new news on the Sykes-Def L. deal besides just
    rumors?? It been kinda of a dead subject for awhile, and was hoping
    they would put together another lp. or something... Iz tink it would be
    a total waste of a great band for just one outing...
    
    
                   The "B."
    
541.28No thanks, I'd rather LIVE!GOES11::G_HOUSEand I might be too far downTue Jun 25 1991 16:576
    Personally, I'd be scared to death to join Def Leppard!  Sheesh, seems
    like everyone in the band is dying off or getting maimed or something!
    
    It's almost like the drummers for Spinal Tap...
    
    gh
541.29awesome colors dude!!!SCOBIE::BHASTYWed Jul 17 1991 18:448
    Atleast it would make a better stage show if they kept blowing up...
    
    
                                        Boo... how bad can ya get?!!!
    
    
                                      The"B."