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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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459.0. "Badlands" by SALEM::BUTKUS (Don't talk so old to me) Thu Feb 02 1989 17:19

    
    
    
    
    	There is a new band that should be somewhat popular
    	and any info. would be great the name of the band
    	is BADLANDS and it has Jake e. Lee and I think
    	Ray Gillian. I know there is going to be a release
    	but I don't know when,anyone know anything?

                              
    
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459.1SUBURB::DALLISONThe Kitten has clawsMon Feb 06 1989 15:564
    
    They are supposed to have a similar sound to the new Whitesnake.
    
    They are all good musicians - it should be killer.
459.2Feels so good, to be so bad ...RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEMarshall Midi Madness !Sat Jun 10 1989 06:3328
    A quick review of BADLANDS - I got the CD 3 days ago and there's
    a copy in the tape deck in both cars and I keep the disc in the
    CD player .... I *kinda* like it.  As a matter of fact, I'm listening
    to it right now ...
    
    There are a few cuts that sound very similar to Whitesnake, mainly
    due to the vocals.  Also, some of the softer acoustic cuts have
    a Zeppelin feel about them, but in a tasteful way, not like Kingdom
    Come's sound.  The guitar lines sound a lot like Jake's work on
    "Bark At The Moon" with Ozzy, especially "Dream In The Dark" which
    was on the Head_____'s Ball last Saturday.  Jake E. Lee really shows
    some diversity here, I guess this project gave him more room to
    dabble than working with/for Ozzy.  He even does some slide work
    on 1 tune, and plays keyboards on several others.  Ray Gillian plays
    some harp as well as the vocals, so you get a dose of the blues
    too.
    
    It rocks in places, lays low in places, but it exhibits a lot of feeling
    throughout ... and there's an extra cut in it for ya if ya buy the
    CD ...... which make it about 49 minutes long (just long enough
    so the last cut doesn't fit on 1 side of a 90 minute tape !).  To
    me, there isn't a bad cut on it, depending on what kind of mood
    you're in.
    
    
    
    			Scary (a BIG Jake E. Lee fan !)
459.4CHEFS::DALLISONThats some catch that Katch 22Tue Jun 13 1989 07:484
    
    Just picked up the Badlands CD.
    
    Its okay - not what I had expected.
459.5I'm not very objective on this one...RAVEN1::JERRYWHITEMarshall Midi Madness !Tue Jun 13 1989 10:138
    I'm such a Jake E. Lee fan, if his band was doing Country I probably
    still would have liked it.  I'll admit I'm slightly biased.  It's
    more of a "back to basics" kind of album, not that heavy at all.
    And if you're in a "technical" or "heavy" mood, this album won't
    do it for ya !  But .....
    
    
    				Scary ...
459.6Badlands BuyDNEAST::EASTMAN_JAMEFri Jun 23 1989 17:245
        Scary, I plan on buyind the tape tonight as soon as I leave work.
    I'll let you know what I think of it on Monday.
    
    Jammin Jim
    
459.7USCTR1::KGALLANTRock'n'roll is my religion...Mon Jun 26 1989 13:069
    
    
    	The lead singer from Badlands (Ray Gillan??) sounds REALLY
    	familiar.  What other bands has he been in??  Has he sung
    	lead on another song that was popular a couple years ago??
    
    	Tigga~~~
                                                
                                               
459.8more sabbath...DOSH::LARSENMon Jun 26 1989 16:223
    He was with Black Sabbath 7th Star period.
    
    Rob.
459.9Sabbath?!DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAMETue Jun 27 1989 17:394
         That tears it!  I'm getting the album tonight!
    
    Jammin Jim
    
459.10Relocated ...ANT::SLABOUNTYThe word for today is legs ...Tue Jun 27 1989 17:5110
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RIGEL4::JBONNO                                        8 lines  27-JUN-1989 12:32
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    Have you heard Jake E. Lee's new band, Badlands?? The album is O.K.;
    I am pretty partial to the work he did with Ozzy, especially on
    the Ultimate Sin album.
    
    jab

459.11I love you baby like a sweet summer song...DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAMETue Jul 11 1989 13:1912
    
     To Scary and anyone else who gives a sh*t,
    
    I've had the new Badlands album for about a week.  For the first five
    days it did not leave my CD player.  This is one of the best guitar
    oriented albums I've bought in a long time.  The intro to the fifth
    song ROCKS!  Has anybody heard any info on a tour?  FYI if you're
    debating between getting the CD or tape, get the CD, the bonus
    track it has on it is great!
    
    JAmmin
    
459.12missed 'em!HAZEL::STARRWhat do ya do when you get lonely...?Tue Jul 11 1989 13:335
> Has anybody heard any info on a tour?  

They just played in Boston (at the Channel) on this past Thursday....

cat
459.13ANT::SLABOUNTYIt's 7 o'clock and I wanna mosh ...Mon Jul 17 1989 14:056
    
    	I thought it was Paul Shortino on lead vocals ... sure
    	sounds like him!!
    
    							GTI
    
459.14Gillan. Ex-Sabbath?DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAMEMon Jul 17 1989 18:1210
     
    
    RE:-1
    Nope, it's Ray Gillan.  Now I've heard that he was Ex-Sabbath, does 
    anyone know what (if any) album he sang on?  I checked "Seventh Star"
    and he does NOT sing on that one.  I was under the impression that he
    did.  Did he maybe just fill in for a tour?
    
    Jim
    
459.15DASXPS::JJSCALZOFly by NightMon Jul 17 1989 19:087
    RE .14
    
    Ray Gillan??? No no no, it's Ian Gillan. He sang on the eternal
    Idol album. I think that's the one. The one with the song. "Digital
    Bi*ch"
    
    jeff
459.17Right out of 1972CSC32::G_HOUSEBe excellent to everyone!Mon Jul 17 1989 19:1719
    Just got this one too.  The first tune really turned me on, and the
    rest kind of left me wanting more like the first one.
    
    I liked the little clean/acoustic intros/pieces thrown in, pretty
    tasty.
    
    The problem I have with most of this album is that it sounds very
    Zeppelinish.  I'd say they sound just as much like clones as Kingdom
    Come and probably MORE so then Whitesnake (or some of the other bands
    which were tarred with this).  Not that that's an entirely bad thing,
    but one would think they could be a little more original then that. 
    The singer especially is just loaded with "Plant-isms".
    
    Of course this is just an initial feeling having only listened to it
    once so far, perhaps my opinion will change some as I listen to it
    more.
    
    gh
                      
459.18RAVEN1::BUTKUSMy mom says I'm specialMon Jul 17 1989 19:247
    
    	RE.14
    
    	Ray Gillen hadn't sung on an album before Badlands.
    
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459.19PFLOYD::ROTHBERGDeath to false metal!Mon Jul 17 1989 19:346
                He's back, ladies and gentlemen!
                
                Howz SC MB??
                
                
459.20RAVEN1::BUTKUSMy mom says I'm specialMon Jul 17 1989 19:506
    
    
    		COOOOLLLLLLLLLLL  Ya'll
    
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459.21I love you baby like a sweet summer song...DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAMETue Jul 18 1989 16:299
    
    
        Well!  I'm glad we got the singer straightened out.  How about the
    bass player?  The name (Eric Singer?) sounds awfully d*mn familiar.
    
    Thanks for the info.
    
    Jim
    
459.22BOSOX::BOURQUEAT the Headless CrossSun Sep 03 1989 14:2512
    
>>        Well!  I'm glad we got the singer straightened out.  How about the
>>    bass player?  The name (Eric Singer?) sounds awfully d*mn familiar.
    
          Eric Singer is the Drummer and he played with Sabbath on the
      7th Star Tour..Not sure if he was on the Album
          also played with Alice Cooper on the Constictor Tour
    
    I like The Album,its Not the Style of Music I expected from Jake
    but there are some good tunes on there,
    
    TamaLands
459.26CHIPS::PERTAGThu Oct 19 1989 17:143
    
    
    No, but tell me about it.  I really wanted to go.  Kim
459.28BTOVT::BAGDY_MOn the road to madness. . .Fri Oct 20 1989 10:0411
459.29ASAHI::COOPERNo more flame burning in my heart...Fri Oct 20 1989 16:154
    Badlands is coming to Night Trax in Greenville, SC sometime in
    November. Yeah !

    jc
459.30CHIPS::PERTAGFri Nov 17 1989 17:014
    Just bought the ablum today.  Finally.  I think the album is great.  A
    little slow and the song "Ball & Chain" sounds EXTREMLY familar.  Did
    anyone else notice that the guitaring in that song sounds like "Kid
    Ego"? - Kim
459.31Jake's the gnads.... winter storm(?) is great!BOSHOG::KELLYDon't just do something, stand there!Sat Nov 18 1989 11:016
    
    	I noticed that a long time ago....but I don't think that Jake
    would ever have to rip off anyone...esp Nuno...
    
    	BK
    
459.34"A light mist in the air..."WILKIE::RCOLLINSGeorge Bush: liar!Fri Jun 29 1990 04:289
    
    Badlands has gotten a new drummer. And it is Jeff Martin, the old
    SINGER for Racer X !!??  
    
     Rock-n-Roll is a crazy place, and I'm glad I'm there!
    
    
    								R.C.
    
459.36PFLOYD::ROTHBERGI want my license back!!!Fri Jun 29 1990 13:073
                Maybe Scott replaced Rob in JP :')
                
459.37What happened?GOES11::G_HOUSEBut this amp goes to 11Thu Nov 01 1990 15:535
    What's become of Jake E Lee and/or Badlands lately?  I haven't heard
    squat about them in quite awhile now.  Are they touring/recording or
    anything?
    
    gh
459.3816821::THRELFALLfamous when you're deadMon Jan 21 1991 16:233
    I just thought I would note that I love Badlands!!
    
    'april
459.39Voodoo HoghwayDUCK::PETRYMFri Jun 28 1991 12:1020
      A couple of notes from a recent addition to the HM conference. For
    anyone who is interested Ray Gillan was in Black Sabbath but never
    recorded with them. 
      He did however contribute vocals to some songs on two albums put together
    my Mel Galley's (ex Guitarist with "Slide It In Era" Whitesnake and also
    Trapeze) brother Tom. Both are excellent and also include contributions
    from a whole load of people like Glen Hughes, Neil Murray and brother Mel
    himself. The first was called "Phenomena", the second "Phenomena II - 
    Dream Runner".
      On the Badlands front they have just released a new album which in my
    humble opinion outdoes even the first album. It's not instantly
    accessible but is all the more worth getting into for that. My only
    (slight) reservations concern the somewhat derivative song titles and
    the fact that they wear their infuences for everyone to see. (Not
    necessarily a bad thing, especially as those influences are solidly
    early seventies - Humble Pie, Led Zeppelin etc.)
      The album is called "Voodoo Highway". Go out and buy!
    
    Wolf.
    
459.40RAVEN1::JERRYWHITERebel without applause ...Fri Jun 28 1991 12:486
    Gee, Led Zeppelin sux though ....  8^)
    
    If I can find it, I'll grab this one over the weekend - I love Jake E.
    Lee's style ...
    
    Scary (Laney rooolz ...)
459.41DPDMAI::THRELFALLI saw my baby on the creepshowFri Jun 28 1991 12:5112
    
    Voodoo Highway is cool, but in no way outdoes their 1st!  The tunes
    aren't as heavy and there's not enough fancy guitar licks as b/4!
    
    But it's definitely a keeper, don't get me wrong!  If you liked the 1st
    album as much as I did, you may be a little disappointed thow!
    
    I agree about the Zeppelin influence; It is unmistakably(sp) there!
    
    LED ZEP RULES!
    
    right Friz?
459.42VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKHarvester of SorrowFri Jun 28 1991 13:034
    
    re: .40
    
    Yep, Laney ROOLZ! 
459.43New Badlands is *ok*CAVLRY::BUCKsun beats down on the cold steel railsMon Jul 01 1991 13:224
    LAMEy(tm) sux, as does Lez Zep!
    
    
    
459.44Mesa Boggie too!!!8*)COMET::FRISBYAMudkicker,kick...Mon Jul 01 1991 15:214
         Marshalls and Led Zeppelin FOREVER!!!
    
                     Frizkid
    
459.458^)NEWOA::DALLISONTough talking youth naiveteTue Jul 02 1991 05:171
    Peavey rooolz!!!
459.46hold it!HAMER::KRONELECTRIFIEDTue Jul 02 1991 14:473
     re -.1....yep at least mine duz!
    re -.2.....not led zep forever -it just seems like 
    forever because it's vastly overplayed and overrated
459.47SONATA::SFESSLERTrademark Sly SmileWed Jul 24 1991 15:345
    "Last Time" by Badlands is the cahoolies!  It's tearin' up the Z-Rock
    Top 50!
    
    \|\Fess|\|\
    
459.48Yeah!GOES11::G_HOUSEI wanna be sedated!Mon Jul 29 1991 17:064
    I heard part of a concert with Badlands on Z-rock last Friday night
    and they sounded great!  I was real impressed!
    
    gh
459.49yupDASXPS::MCLEMENTReady,ripe,and willingMon Jul 29 1991 17:303
    
    
    I liked it to..........
459.50Reality sets in!COMET::FRISBYAComeGetSomeYum?Tue Jul 30 1991 15:567
    They have to do good!!!
    
             The bass player was working a constuction job between albums
    and Jake was selling guitars to pay the rent!!!!!!
    
                           Frizkid
    
459.51Reality sets it futher.......COMET::FRISBYAI never said I loved youTue Dec 10 1991 13:408
     Sorry to spead bad news but:
    
              BADLANDS HAVE BEEN DROPPED FROM THEIR RECORD LABEL!!
    
          It's a shame.......
    
                            Frizkid
    
459.52They never gained any momentumCAVLRY::BUCKSupport the coasters of America!Tue Dec 10 1991 13:472
    No surprise.  Their 1st release seemed only marginal, with a luke-warm
    response.  Voodoo Highway was a 'dust collector in the bin' album.
459.53Jake roolz!GOES11::G_HOUSETommy The CatTue Dec 10 1991 14:354
    They had good music with a cool sound and feel, but they never caught
    on.  Don't know why...
    
    gh
459.54VCSESU::VCSESU::COOKAmong the livingTue Dec 10 1991 14:362
    
    'cause their record company never gave them the push they needed!
459.55Shame, tooGOES11::G_HOUSETommy The CatTue Dec 10 1991 14:371
    Probably...
459.56CAVLRY::BUCKSupport the coasters of America!Tue Dec 10 1991 15:3313
    Record Co.'s don't "push" anymore.  This isn't the 70s.  Record
    Companies are no longer in the business of making careers for people!
    It's up to the artist to totally do the legwork for their success,
    which is why some performers like GnR, Madonna, etc. go for the 
    controvery/shock value thing...lotsa free press helps sell them records!
    
    These days, a record company is going to sign the band whos dragged
    their butt around the country in a van playing their music to the
    masses, spreading their name, and getting themselves known.  The days
    of Queensryche-style "we have a tape but don't play out much" contract
    deals are gonzo.
    
    Any band dying these days, I blame the band more than the company.
459.57KIDVAX::CESCOBARMoneyIsPower&PowerMakesTheRulesTue Dec 10 1991 15:437
    
    If it's Queensryche-style...then that would make it still around.
    
    Just wonderin?
    
    
    Chris
459.58CAVLRY::BUCKSupport the coasters of America!Tue Dec 10 1991 15:529
    >If it's Queensryche-style...then that would make it still around.
    >
    >Just wonderin?
    
    Nope.  QR were "signed" in 1981 after EMI liked their studio demo tape
    (which what eventually became the 1st QR EP album!).  They never played
    a live gig in their life before their first album came out.
    
    Dat don happen anymore.
459.59KIDVAX::CESCOBARMoneyIsPower&PowerMakesTheRulesTue Dec 10 1991 16:095
    
    Thanks fer clearin up that misconception...
    
    
    Chris
459.60Voodoo highway...REPAIR::KISIELWho do you think you are?Thu Jul 09 1992 14:1819
    
    I saw Badlands play a couple of days ago here in the UK, I hav'nt heard
    any of there material before but they sounded really cool. Ray Gillan's
    voice was excellent and Jake E Lee was needless to say ripping up 5-10
    minute solos every now and again (which i loved). The suport band was
    called Naughty Naughty, i'm not sure if there American or what, I was
    listening to them from the bar! They sounded ok, but nothing special.
    I'm not sure what Badlands were doing in the UK cause i hav'nt heard of
    any other dates that there playing and i don't think they'd just do one
    very small gig in the UK? 
    	I also heard there gonna be playing the Pheonix plasa in wokingham 
    again soon, i hope so, cause i'll be there!
    
    
    
    			E	w	a	n
    
     
    definatly see them again if they do.
459.61SUBURB::COOKSwho the hell do we think we are?Thu Jul 09 1992 15:455
    Yep,they`ll be playing Wokingham pretty soon - though unsure of the
    date,i`m afraid.
    
    Tony McDallison would probably know more.
    
459.62Badlands ROOL!!!!METALX::SWANSONnothing personalThu Jul 09 1992 16:0715
>  The suport band was
>  called Naughty Naughty, i'm not sure if there American or what
    
    
     Naughty, Naughty?
    
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\'o.O'    AAK!
=(___)=
   U
    
    American Poseurs is what they are!
    

    
459.63NEWOA::DALLISONshnaffleFri Jul 10 1992 17:096
    
    I'm playing the Phoneix soon!
    
    Just think, Stiff Kitty at the same venue as 'Badlands'.
    
    We is going up in the world (not!).
459.64SUBURB::COOKSwho the hell do we think we are?Mon Jul 20 1992 12:306
    Hasn`t the lead singer geezer for Baldlands left?
    
    Apparently Jake E.Lee is a lazy get who can`t be bothered to write
    really good songs. And after comparing the 2nd album with the 1st
    album,i tend to agree.
    
459.65NEWOA::DALLISONDisturbing my little peaceMon Jul 20 1992 13:102
    
    Apparently, he's leaving after this tour.
459.66METALX::SWANSONIfYaFeelLikeARiotThenDontchaDenyItMon Jul 20 1992 16:1211
 >   Apparently Jake E.Lee is a lazy get who can`t be bothered to write
 >   really good songs. And after comparing the 2nd album with the 1st
 >   album,i tend to agree.
    
    Huh?!?!  Are you sure you're hearing is alright?  Their 2nd album is
    fackin' awesome!!  Even better than the first!  What don't you like
    about it?
    
    Ken
    
    
459.67SUBURB::COOKSwho the hell do we think we are?Mon Jul 20 1992 16:306
    Er,i dunno. The first one just sounds better to these ears. There`s
    a few good songs on the 2nd album,but there`s a number of fillers
    n`all.
    
    Apparently the 2nd album only sold 65% of wot the 1st album sold.
    
459.68METALX::SWANSONIfYaFeelLikeARiotThenDontchaDenyItMon Jul 20 1992 16:547
 >   Apparently the 2nd album only sold 65% of wot the 1st album sold.
    
    Ooh, er, no, uh... No, it CAN'T BE!!!!!  IT JUST CAN BE!!!!!
    
    :')
    
    
459.69Lost itGOES11::G_HOUSEBlack Sheets Of RainMon Jul 20 1992 16:574
    My personal opinion is that they took too long between the two albums
    and they lost their momentum.
    
    gh
459.70Dreams in the darkCOMET::FRISBYAThinking of youMon Jul 20 1992 17:017
    My personal opinion is that they didn't have much momentum ever. Sure I
    liked them but the average listener never got a chance to hear them.
     The bass player worked a day job inbetween albums...Maybe he got used
    to money. That's what couldv'e taken so long. 8)
    
              Friz
    
459.71Weird....COMET::FRISBYALife is poetry in motionMon Aug 17 1992 16:287
    Ray Gillen is no longer the singer for Badlands.  He had a problem with
    the drummer and bass player having opinions. He thought Badlands was a 
    partnership between him and Jake E. Lee but I guess he was wrong. 
        Badlands is considering two singers for the job.
    Rob Lamothe from the Riverdogs or Debbie Holiday from L.A. Stiletto.
        Friz
    
459.72METALX::SWANSONHeThoughtOblivionWellItBekonsUsAllMon Aug 17 1992 16:314
    Is Debbie Holiday a woman?   I know it sounds like a dumb question, but
    hey, these days you never know!
    
    |KS|
459.73YEP!COMET::FRISBYALife is poetry in motionMon Aug 17 1992 16:495
    Yea...She a woman! In the article they said it was a, career risk but
    as I see it their career is a risk. 8)
    
      Friz
          
459.74SALEM::STIGLook in the eye!!Tue Apr 27 1993 11:573
    I think the singer left to be in a christian band.
    
                                         stig
459.75NEWOA::DALLISONRubber Baby Buggy BumpersThu Apr 29 1993 23:233
    I heard Jake-E-Babes went back to his day job.
    
    -Tony (seriously folks)
459.76QRYCHE::STARRRemember your mission!Mon Jan 03 1994 21:415
According to someone on the Queensryche digest, Ray Gillian of Badlands
died a couple weeks ago in New Jersey after being hospitalized for a
flu-like illness.

alan
459.77Badlands were koolMETALX::SWANSONCrow T. Robot for PresidentMon Jan 03 1994 21:512
    Bummer!  He had a great voice.
    
459.78KDX200::ROBRThe road to the south... Impassible!Wed Jan 05 1994 13:316
    
    a "flu-like illness"?!?!?!?
    
    sha...
    
    
459.79Anyone know his name??I forget...SALEM::STIGWed Jan 12 1994 10:343
    mistake in .74...The drummer left to be in a christian band.
    
                stig
459.80kiss = christian band... er, i think not...TECRUS::MULHOLLENkindred to being an americanWed Jan 12 1994 11:5616
>>                                                 <<< Note 459.79 by SALEM::STIG >>>
>>                                               -< Anyone know his name??I forget... >-
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>>    mistake in .74...The drummer left to be in a christian band.
    
>>                stig


     uh... i dunno about the drummer for the second album, but i don't
     think 'kiss' is a christian band...  eric singer was the drummer
     for the first badlands album and has replaced the late eric carr
     of kiss...  i'm not positive about the drummer for the 'voodoo hiway'
     though...

     /b

459.81I'll try and get his name...SALEM::STIGThu Jan 13 1994 10:293
    it must be the latter album...
    
               stig
459.82Ray GillianSUBPAC::PUTNAMFri Jun 24 1994 10:484
Just some info on Ray Gillian, he recorded a song on the new George Lynch Album
before his death.  The song cranks and so does the album

Chris
459.83I thought that George Lynch stuff was just a rumorMETALX::SWANSONRide The LightningFri Jun 24 1994 12:252
    Before Who's death?  George Lynch?  Or Ray Gillian?
    
459.84Ray GillianSUBPAC::PUTNAMFri Jun 24 1994 17:513
Before Ray Gillian's death, I haven't heard anything about Lynch being dead

Chris
459.85GOES11::HOUSEHow could I have been so blind?Fri Jun 24 1994 18:451
    Ray Gillian *IS* George Lynch!!!
459.86BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Fri Jun 24 1994 19:144
    
    	That's "was", Greg.
    
    							GTI