Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    
    		I didn't care for the remarks that were made by (i think)
    dj jazzy jeff and the fresh prince, or maybe it was another bee-bopper
    rapper. They were announcing nominees for best HM album and they
    said something like "G n'Res... a..a.a.appetite for desruption"
    and "VanHalen.....ohh you ate twelve" talk about NERVE! 
    		I thought G n'Res did a fair job. but was surprised
    that they didn't take a couple of awards home with them. to bad
    Def Leppard didn't make it there too.
    
    							JAM

    
        I thought I was gonna kill someone when Def Leppard won "Best
        Heavy_Metal Album".  Hah!!  That album shouldn't even be in
        that category!!  They were borderline H_M on the last album,
        so what does that make "Hysteria"?  Top-40, of course.
    
        Guns 'n' Roses should've taken most of those (at least out of
        the choices).
    
        I was so f*ckin' p*ssed off u wouldn't believe it.
    
                                                       GTI

    Yeah, a lot of things are discussed elsewhere.  But that's the way
    a lot of noters do - when a brilliant reply isn't at their fingertips
    they dig into the SOAPBOX archives.  But then that's what makes
    this such a "happening" conference. 8^) x .0000465
    
    
    
    				Scary 

    Ya, I agree with Shawn.  I can't believe Def Leppard got BEST HEAVY
    METAL band!  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGH!  I like them but their just
    a rock band.  Van Halen shouldn't even have been in that catagory
    any more.  They USED to be H_M.  The award should have been hands
    down Guns n' Roses.
    
    How about that Little Richard queer?  This is the SECOND year in
    a row (that I saw) that he gave the award for best soul single and
    once again he had to make a five minute big-*ss scene about how
    he thinks HE should get the award!  The guy won't give up and keeps
    ruining the show!  He says he's been playing for thirty years and
    it's about time he deserves it!  GAAAAG!  You'd think the guy would
    realize he hasn't produced a song in 20 of those 30 years and
    everyone thinks he's a pushy little flaming flamingo.  I think his
    crying is getting old and they should get him out of the ceremonies.
    
    Ya, loved Guns & Roses performance.  Did you notice how the band
    either blew off Axl at the end when he went to introduce them or
    else someone cut off his mike?
    
    Hammer. 

    
    
    IMO, I thought that GUNS should have done a different song. I think
    Patience is a good tune, but I was hoping they would ROCK the house.
    Give the show a little gusto. It seemed to me like they were trying
    to prove that they were not just "scratch" musicians, kinda like
    "look we are talented guys, this song isn't even hard rock -- see".
    
    I just thought they should have said "up yours" and done a real
    HEAVY METAL song.
    
    I agree with the other replies, Van Hagar lost their H_M when DLR
    left.
    
    the Night_Prowler  (been busy for awhile)
    

    I believe they would have done a different song if they had their
    drummer for that show..... Patience is probably the only song that they
    do that doesn't have a need for drums.                        
    But then again it is a good song on the verge of becoming another
    " hit " and maybe they wanted to get it more publicity.
    
    Those sound logical - nah there is no place for logic in this notes
    file.... 8^)

    
    	Anyone know who was on drums?
    
    	I can't recall where, but I heard it was Don Henley...
    
    
    				Les
    

    It WAS Don Henley... he's a big Guns n' Roses fan.
    
    /Motorbreath

    why? was he drumming in the first place?
    

    
    
     According to MTV  news at 1 A.M.  ............
    
    
     The original "real" G&R Drummer had the flu.
    
    
    Sax  ( when in doubt....just Pull out )
    

    
    
    	I'm not to sure about Don Henley being the drummer, but I'm
    	just going by looks, that guy looked nothing like Don H.
    	But I could be wrong. To me the guy playin' drums that night
    	looked like one of the stage crew or something. 
    
    	Hollywood.........................always does it good!
    

    re::-1
    
    		maybe your going by what you think Don Henley looks
    	like from the past couple of years....example::Don Henley
    	with very short hair when he did video's, album cover for
    	Building The Perfect Beast..
    						compared to::Don Henley
    	as he looked a looooong time ago when he was w/ The Eagles!!!!
    	
    		(imo) it was easy to tell it was Don if you knew him
    	(at least what he looked like) in the old days.....
    
    						JAM

    
    
    re-1
    
    	I know what Don H. looked like a looooong time ago and
    	I still don't believe that was him with GnR. Unless I
    	see it in print, I guess I'll never believe it. But
    	that's just me. Do you have a magazine or something
    	that I can refer to.
    
    	Of course you gotta remember that I was so bummed out
    	when I heard what song they were playin' it's a wonder
    	that I thought it was the real GnR anyhow.
    
    	HOLLYWOOD.........................oh well!
    
    
    	HOLLYWOOD......................

    Yo Hollywood...
    
    It was on MTV "and the mystery drummer was none other than
    ex-Eagle, Don Henley, a big Guns n' Roses fan."
    
    It was Don Henley.
    It was Don Henley.
    It was Don Henley.
    
    etc.
    
    ;^)/Motorbreath

    
    
    Morterbreath,  		there's no place like home
    				there's no place like home
    		
    				it was don henley
    				it was don henley
    
    	       you sound like Dorthy!!          B^)!!!!
    			
                                           tnx for the conformation!,
                                                       JAM

    
    
    
    	RE: -2
    
    
    	Ok, after saying it 3 times and clicking my Puma's together
    	3 times, I believe it was Donny H. and I almost felt like I
    	was there.   agagagagag;')agagagagagaga;')agagagagagga;')
    
    
    	HOLLYWOOD.........................who's gonna wear them shoes?
    

    
    
    	Well, I'll be first...
    
    	Guns 'n' Roses just won the Favorite HM album...
    
    	Tigga~~~

    
    	And boy oh boy did Slash get himself into a wee bit of
    	trouble.....
    
    	hooowee!
    

    
    
    	And the Skids just won fave new HM band!!  =)
    
    	THere ya go Flip!!
    

    Hi JJ!
    
    Steve
    

    
    
    	No kidding, eh?!  "I'd like to thank fu****- CUE MUSIC!
    	And people wonder why HM gets a bad rap...the likes of
    	Slash bringing his drink on stage with him and cussing
    	up a storm...idiot.
    
    	Tigga~~~~ can't believe some of these winners... PULEZE!
     	
    	

	 Alright....who gave Jani Lane the shiner!?!

	 I have to admit, he still looked hot even with his bandaid
	 across is face.

	 ;-)

	 kat    

    
    	Well, here's a list of the awards that were given out.  I
    	know I'm missing a couple here and there....

    	Tigga~~ who's also wondering who gave Jani the shiner!!
    
    
    
Favorite Pop/Rock Album		-  NKOTB (?)
Favorite R&B/Soul Album		-  Bobby Brown (Don't Be Cruel)
Favorite HM Album		-  Guns 'n' Roses (Appetite for Destruction)
Favorite Rap Album		-  MC Hammer (?)
Favorite Country Album		-  Randy Travis (Old 8X10)

Favorite Dance Single		-  Janet Jackson (Miss You Much)
Favorite Pop/Rock Single	-  Milli Vanilli (Girl Y'Know It's True)
Favorite Country Single		-  Randy Travis (Deeper Than the Holler)
Favorite R&B/Soul Single	-  Janet Jackson (Miss You Much)

Favorite Dance New Artist	-  Tone Loc
Favorite Pop/Rock New Artist	-  Milli Vanilli
Favorite Rap New Artist		-  Young MC
Favorite R&B/Soul New Artist	-  Milli Vanilli
Favorite HM New Artist		-  Skid Row
Favorite Country New Artist	-  Clint Black

Favorite Dance Artist		-  Paula Abdul
Favorite Rap Artist		-  MC Hammer
Favorite HM Artist		-  Guns and Roses

Favorite Pop/Rock Duo/Group	-  NKOTB
Favorite R&B/Soul Duo/Group	-  The O'Jays 
Favorite Country Duo/Group	-  Alabama

Favorite R&B/Soul Female Artist	-  Anita Baker
Favorite Country Female Artist	-  Reba McIntyre
Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist -  Paula Abdul

Favorite Country Male Artist	-  Randy Travis 
Favorite R&B/Soul Male Artist	-  Luther Vandross
Favorite Pop/Rock Male Artist	-  Bobby Brown

    
    	Oh ya... and Alice Cooper sounded like an old man!  He couldn't
    	even sing the song!  He kept running out of breath!!
    
    	Sheesh!  Great White definitely sounded the best over Alice
    	Cooper AND Warrant!
    
    	Tigga~~~
    

    Who is it that votes in the AMA?  It would appear that it is "POP"
    music writers, and not the general public!  There again I could
    be talkin out of my a$$.
    
    
    Bonzo

    
    Let's just try this again....
    
    Milli Vannilli won *how* many awards?!?!?!?  NKOTB actually won
    two?!?!?
    
    Ohboyohboyohboyohboy
    
    Nice to see the Skidz win!!!
    
    Flip

    
    
    	Another thing that irked me was that it was the SAME people
    	being nominated for different categories.  Janet Jackson
    	(imo) should either be considered for the "dance" topics
    	or the "Soul/R&B" but not both...
    
    	Sometimes I think they should only be nominated for ONE
    	category and ONE award.  There are far too many musicians
    	who've contributed to music to limit themselves to the
    	top five.
    
    	RE: Bonzo
    	The results are compiled by "Cashbox" magazine and I believe
    	it's done by sales.
    
    	Tigga~~~

    
    	If it makes anyone feel better, NKOTB did a lousy job of
    	lip syncing....the older blonde one (don't remember his name)
    	was acting like it was real hard to hit a couple of notes...
    	that shouldn't have been difficult at all!  Made me ill....
    
    	Anyhoo....Slash should be shot.  No wonder Axl never appears
    	on any of these things with him....he makes a fool out of himself,
    	the group and HM in general.  Real cool Slash...jerk.  Alice
    	Cooper sounded like sh*t.  Great White sounded great I thought
    	and I really like that tune.  Warrant did ok after they got 
    	going.  Jani was really shaky for the first few lines.  And
    	I'm a third who'd like to know who gave Jani the shiner!!
    
    	All in all the show was pretty decent.  I was really happy
    	for Paula Abdul.  Like the MTV Awards, she looks, acts and talks
    	like she is genuinely grateful and totally shocked.  She's cute.
    	But I was disappointed to see Janet Jackson lip sync her song.
    	She's talented enough that I would think she wouldn't need to
    	do that.
    
    	JJ
    

    Did anyone by any chance tape the AMA??  Could I borrow it??
    
    I was at work and missed it..8^(
    
    Rae

    
    Alright, it was ME!  I punched that little puke Jani "Upside down
    eyelids" Lane.
    
    He deserved it...too bad I didn't punch the other side while I was at
    it!!!
    
    Why?!?!?  Because he has the audacity to look like BK, that's why!
    
    8^)
    
    FLip

    
    	RE: Rae
    
    		I taped it..
    
     	RE: JJ
    	>If it makes anyone feel better, NKOTB did a lousy job of
    	>lip syncing....the older blonde one (don't remember his name)
    	>was acting like it was real hard to hit a couple of notes...
    	
    	Tell me about it!  And to boot, the theatrics of kneeling
    	down on stage and all - gimme a break.
    
    	>Cooper sounded like sh*t.  Great White sounded great I thought
    	>and I really like that tune.  Warrant did ok after they got 
    	>going.  Jani was really shaky for the first few lines.  And
    	>I'm a third who'd like to know who gave Jani the shiner!!
         
    	Did anyone else notice that the "HM" bands that played performed
    	ballads?  Warrant did "Heaven", GW did some ballad.  And poor
    	Alice couldn't even breathe!  He was huffin' and a puffin'
    	all through the song!
    
    	>for Paula Abdul.  Like the MTV Awards, she looks, acts and talks
    	>like she is genuinely grateful and totally shocked.  She's cute.
    	
    	She does, but it gets ill.  She seems to surprised all the
    	time and it doesn't seem as genuine after awhile...
    
    
	Tigga~~~

    
    
    	Whoa.... I can't say that I don't like Alice Cooper when
    	I haven't heard any of his material (with the exception
    	of "Trash" which I picked up recently).
    
    	He sang, "House of Fire" and the show I was watching had
    	him panting and he was barely audible.  By the end of
    	the song, he was singing at a whisper.  Or is that how
    	the song is supposed to be done?
    
    	Tigga~~~ who commends him for not lip-syncing but still
    		 thought he sounded terrible

    Hey, did you catch that class act of G & R's last night on the American
    Music Awards?....were they toast or just doing their bit for their
    P.R.?...........comments?
    /K

    
    Yah, I didn't hear one CRACK either. Cuz, I couldn't even hear him.  If
    you saw AMA how could you not notice that he was either wicked out of
    breath or losing his voice completing.  All I could here was the back
    up singers and an occasional gasp. - Kim

                Pete, you  must  have had MTV on 'cause the Alice
                Cooper  song *I*  saw  had  virtually  no  vocals
                toward the end, he  got  off  to a mild start and
                went down hill from there...  Hang it up, Alice!
                
                

I caught the last hour of the show (missed GnR - oh well...)

How about near the end, when Skid Row won for best new metal band? Sam 
Kinnison gave away the award.....


Sam: Skid Row couldn't be hear tonight. Sebatian Bach is still back in 
     Massachusetts going "WHO THREW THAT?!? IS THAT THE GUY? WHERE?????"


He had me rolling on the floor!!!!

alan

    
    	re: Alan...
    
    	>> He had me rolling on the floor!!
    
    	Me too....I thought that was quite hysterical...
    
    	re: Pete
    
    	sorry, I thought Alice sounded horrible.  Toward the end if
    	you heard anything at all it was him gasping for air.  His 
    	band carried him....
    
    

    
    	As if anyone cares, I'll watch the tape tonight and see
    	what I think.
    
    	Don't touch that dial!!
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    I have seen Cooper five times in concert and his voice is either
    right on the (graveley) sounding money or way off, he sounds like
    he had a way off night...Pat_who_will_watch_the_tape_tonight
    

    I know this is pretty stupid, but could someone change the title of
    this note.  It really bugs me because it's quite redundant.  
    
    American Music Awards Awards.  
    
    Sort of like ATM machine, or TWA airlines.
    
    
    Steve O

    
    	RE: Steve
    
    	I hope you're happy now.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    FWIW I didn't think that Alice sounded so bad, I still enjoyed watching
    him.  No lip-synch bull either.  One thing that I remember thinking was
    that they cut the guitar solo short.  Was that my imagination or did
    anyone else notice that?

    Watching that show was definitely a nauseating experience for the most
    part though.  I can't believe that NKOTB could actually with "*Best*
    of" ANYTHING...!  "Most money made" maybe, "most young girls swooning"
    maybe, but not best music.  And two different awards, give me a break.

    Like Alan, I was dying laughing when Sam Kinnison accepted the award
    for Skid Row.  

    Like I said in mutterings, I was laughing hilariously at Slush.  Duff
    didn't look like he was exactly on the cutting edge of reality either,
    but at least he maintained enough to be polite.

    gh

    
    	"the cutting egde of reality"  agaggaa I love it!!!!
    
    sean

    
    
    	Off the side a little but I heard the news this morning
    	say that while Paula Abdul was accepting her award, someone
    	was breaking into her house.  She lost about $3400.00
    	worth of jewelry.
    
    	Tigga~~~

    
    Wow!  She must have had alot of plastic costume jewellery!
    
    Flip

    
    I saw Alice a while back, and whilst the show was very good, Alice's
    vocals su*ked. The reason for the showing being good, had nothing
    to do with Alice - it was the stage crew, the backing band and the
    props.                                   
                                                      
    Methinks the guy should hang up his little batton.

                                                      
>    Methinks the guy should hang up his little batton.

	 Well, Alice could always run for governor again.


	 kath

    Personally, I never thought he had a great voice.  It's interesting and
    quirky, but not what I consider "good".  It sounds pretty raspy lately,
    probably as a result of all the drinking he used to do.  I still enjoy
    listening to him though.
    
    gh

    I think he like many singers are 80% delivery and 20% voice.
    his delivers his lyrics in a manner that is uniquely his
    he can talk his songs thru and they sound good. I love singers
    with great voices with fantastic ranges (Tate,Halford,Pearcy) but
    there are some people that can just get thru it with there emphasis
    I mean in a weird way it's like I consider Alice to be a Frank Sinatra
    of Hard Rock, I don't think Frank Sinatra has a voice, its his
    delivery.
    
    You won't find a bigger Alice fan than me (6' 3" 210) {ha ha} but
    I will be the first to admit he never has had a great voice but
    a unique voice with a great delivery.....Pat
    

    That's what I was trying to say...  You did a much better job, Pat.
    
    gh

    I heard on MTV news (or, the gospel according to Kurt Loder)...that
    Jani Lane got the shiner from his bass player who accidently hit him 
    in the eye with his bass while they were doing some schtick on stage
    during one of their shows......i knew you'd want to know that......../k
    

    
    	I wanted to know that.  Cary (JJ's fiance) didn't even
    	let me say Hello before he asked me, "What happened
    	to his face?"
    
    	They're psychic, y'know...they always know it's me
    	calling.  (;
    
    	Tigga~~~~

    
    
    	yup...Warrant comes on...we see Jani's face...the phone rings.
    	we turned to each other and at the same time said "Kim"  =)
    
    	I's just knows her too well  =)
    

    Alice can't sing.
    He croaks and growls his way past his lack of any kind of singing
    voice.
    
    /Motorbreath...my two cents, and my opinion is that the only thing
    he's contributed to HM is awesome theatrical ideas, and a few 
    great songs about 15 years ago.

    
    	Well for those who are interested I thought I'd post the results
    	of the American Music Awards....All of them!  =)
    
    	Pop Rock Single:  Jon Bon Jovi - Blaze of Glory (ha! pooh on
    	all you doubters! =)  I also want to note that he won a Golden
    	Globe Award for Best Soundtrack Album)
    	Soul/R&B Single: Can't Touch This - MC Hammer
    	Country Single: If Tomorrow Never Comes - Garth Brooks
    	Dance Music Single: Vogue - Madonna
    	Soul/R&B Duo or Group: Tony! Toni! Tone!
    	Country Duo or Group: Alabama
    	New Dance ARtist: Bel Biv Devoe
    	New Heavy Metal/Rock : Slaughter (yay!)
    	Pop Rock Duo or Group: Aerosmith
    	Country Album: Reba Live - Reba McEntire
    	Soul/R&B Album: Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em - MC Hammer
    	Heavy Metal/Hard Rock Album: Dr. Feelgood - Motley Crue
    	Pop Rock Album: ...But Seriously - Phil Collins
    	Rap Album: Please Hammer.... - MC Hammer
    	New Soul/R&B Artist: Bel Biv Devoe
    	New Country Artist: Kentucky Headhunters
    	Heavy Metal/Hard Rock Artist: Aerosmith
    	Rap Artist: MC Hammer
    	New Pop/Rock: Vanilla Ice (jerk...he got edited...I think he
    				mooned)
    	Dance Artist: Janet Jackson
    	Soul/R&B Female: Janet Jackson
    	New Rap Artist: Vanilla Ice
    	Pop Rock Female: Janet Jackson
    	Country Female: Reba McEntire
    	Soul/R&B Male: MC Hammer
    	Country Male: George Strait
    	Pop Rock Male: Phil Collins
    
    	Highlights:  Merle Haggard got this year's merit award.
    	Gloria Estafan performed in public for the first time since
    	her accident and got a standing O before her performance.
    	(Jon did her intro =)  )   NKOTB got booed almost as loudly
    	as the female fans were screaming.  Tommy Lee got edited
    	when he and Vince accepted their award.(what a trip seeing them
    	in tux jackets and bow ties!)
    
    	I guess that'll do it....I'm off to bed now....
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    
    Aerosmith and Motley Crue for Heavy Metal award?  Now, I thought they
    were splitting up the category this year for Heavy Metal and Hard
    Rock???
    
    
    
    Goddess F.

    
    They're splitting the catagory for the Grammy awards.

    
    
    Who cares...
    
    
    GAZ
    

    
    
    NKOTB sank to a new low...did anyone catch their song, "Games"?
    
    I'm sorry, but I don't like being insulted just because I choose
    not to listen to them (and recognize that they can't even sing on key).
    
    I give 'em credit, they didn't lip sync....
    
    How can one Nelson look so GOOD and the other look so bad?  
    
    
    kath

    
    	Aerosmith was up against NKOTB for "Pop rock duo/group".  I
    	would have died laughing if NKOTB won!!
    
    	And I hate to admit it, but I liked the song that NKOTB did
    	towards the beginning of the show, until that other weasel
    	took the microphone and reverted back to typical NK stuff.
    
    							GTI
    

      Shawn is losing it... yet again..  (^8*.
    
    
    
    GAZ

    
    
    Shawn...did you happen to listen to the words?  They were saying that
    if we didn't like NewKids, that, basically, we sucked.
    
    k

Article 399 of clari.news.music:
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (DOLLIE F. RYAN)
Newsgroups: clari.news.music,clari.news.tv
Subject: M.C. Hammer cleans up at American Music Awards
Date: 29 Jan 91 04:36:11 GMT
Priority: regular


	LOS ANGELES (UPI) -- Rapper M.C. Hammer, on the heels of five Grammy
nominations, swept five categories Monday at the 18th annual American
Music Awards in a ceremony tinged with concerns over war in the Persian
Gulf.
	Hammer, whose album ``Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em'' has sold 8
million copies, won for favorite album in soul/rhythm and blues and rap
categories.
	His break-through hit off the album, ``U Can't Touch This,'' won
favorite soul/R&B single. Hammer also was named favorite soul/R&B artist
and favorite rap artist.
	Nominated seven times, he was outdistanced in only two areas, both by
Phil Collins, who won for favorite male artist and whose album ``... But
Seriously'' took the favorite album prize in the pop-rock sector.
	With the five wins, Hammer has the second highest number of American
Music Awards presented to a single artist in a year. Michael Jackson won
a record seven awards in 1984.
	Based on votes cast by a national sampling of 20,000 record buyers,
the American Music Awards are more a measure of popularity and
commercial success than the more established and respected Grammy
Awards, which are chosen by members of the music industry.
	Nominees were selected based on year-end sales charts from the music
industry trade publication Cash Box.
	Hammer tried to explain his overwhelming success.
	``I present myself against the stereotype of a rap artist and some
people might find that refreshing,'' he told reporters backstage.
	Hammer, a former Navy seaman from Oakland, Calif., was among several
artists who voiced opinions about the war in the Persian Gulf.
	``I believe in giving peace a chance, but once they're over there
defending us, I say, 'Do all you can to stand and win,''' he said.
	Janet Jackson was the next highest award winner with three, followed
by Aerosmith, Collins, Reba McEntire, Bell Biv DeVoe and Vanilla Ice,
all with two each.
	Vanilla Ice, whose album ``To The Extreme'' currently tops Hammer's
on the sales charts, was voted favorite new artist in the pop-rock and
rap categories.
	Vanilla Ice, appearing Monday in a flashy two-piece red, white and
blue outfit, defended himself against reports that he did not have the
rough street-oriented youth he has claimed.
	``To the people that try to hold me down, kiss my white butt,'' he
said during the tape-delayed ceremony.
	Backstage, squaring off with reporters who questioned him on
discrepancies in his promotional biography material, Ice added, ``People
don't believe a white guy like me can grow up in the streets. Don't
believe the hype.
	``The bottom line is it's not where you're from, it's where you're
at,'' he said.
	Janet Jackson won honors as the favorite female artist in pop-rock
and soul/R&B genres and as favorite dance artist.
	Aerosmith received favorite heavy-metal album for ``Pump,'' and in a
surprising twist, won as favorite band in the pop-rock category, topping
Bell Biv DeVoe and the heavily marketed New Kids On The Block.
	Bell Biv DeVoe, in what was perhaps the first acceptance speech ever
performed to rap music, took top honors for favorite new artist in the
dance and soul/R&B categories.
	McEntire, a frequent victor in country music award ceremonies, was
named favorite female country artist for the fourth year in a row and 
``Reba Live'' was favorite country album.
	Country musician Merle Haggard was presented with Lifetime
Achievement Award, joining the ranks of Michael Jackson and Prince.
	``Blaze Of Glory,'' the hit from the soundtrack of ``Young Guns II''
that singer-writer Jon Bon Jovi called a fluke, took the prize for
favorite pop-rock single.
	The prize for favorite heavy-metal new artist went to Slaughter.
	Madonna, who managed to dominate the scandal sheets again this year
with her voyeuristic ``Justify My Love'' video, bounced back from last
year's shut-out by winning favorite dance-music single for her stylish 
``Vogue.''
	Madonna was unable to accept her award in person because she was in
New York shooting a film.
	Tony!Toni!Tone! was chosen as favorite soul/R&B band.
	Garth Brooks, who took the country music scene by storm last year,
won the country single award for ``If Tomorrow Never Comes.''
	``It's a total shock,'' Brooks said. ``I'm just starting to come
around.''
	Perennial country award winners Alabama won for ninth consecutive
time as favorite country band, duo or group. In that category, they
topped the Judds, the duo currently on a nationwide farewell tour before
mother Naomi Judd retires because of poor health.
	Gloria Estefan, in a comeback performance, was greeted by an
exuberant standing ovation. The 33-year-old performer, who sang ``Coming
Out Of The Dark,'' has been recuperating since a traffic accident last
spring left her with a serious back injury.
	En Vogue, the female quartet nominated for favorite new dance
artists, serenaded reporters backstage with a four-part-harmony
rendition of ``The Star Spangled Banner,'' which they dedicated to U.S.
troops in the Middle East.
	The show was broadcast from the Shrine Auditorium.

    
    	I agree Kath.
    
    	I had to give them credit for trying something new. But 
    	this was TOO different. They go from singing bubble gum
    	"I love you girl" stuff to "you can hate us all you want,
    	but we're not giving up so you can kiss my a@@" stuff.
    	I think it's time the New Kids dispersed like New Edition
    	did and go on to their own things.....
    
    	JJ
    

    >	I think it's time the New Kids dispersed like New Edition
    >	did and go on to their own things.....
    
    Change that last half of the sentence to "never to be heard from
    again".
    
    gh

    
    	Well, if NKOTB changed direction and started doing stuff like
    	they did last night then I'd consider listening to them, and
    	maybe even liking it.
    
    	Yeah, I realize what they lyrics were saying ... but it's the
    	style of the song I liked.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    I'm surprised Flavor Flav had anything to do with NKOTB.

    No, the song doesn't say you s*ck if you don't like NKOTB,
    it's a rebuff to the mountains and tons of criticism they endure.
    
    BTW, why is it that they are so offensive to everyone? Simply because
    they were so incredibly popular? I mean, being sick of hearing
    a group is no reason to hate them. Hate the music industry and
    pop music and its fans in general for making them as popular as
    they are/were, but the band certainly is no more offensive or
    less talented than scores of other "artists" out there.
    
    Just seems to be another case of "hate 'em cuz they made it"
    syndrome.
    
    /Mike...not a NKOTB fan, but the hatred shown toward the band is
    childish and negative, and I understand that that's what the song
    is about.

    
    Re: .67
    
    Told you so!  ;'P
    

    
    I can't speak for everyone else, but:
    
    A. I know alot about them personally through friends of their
       family I know they are complete hypcrites.
    
    B. I do not like their music.
    
    C. I do not like their attitudes.
    

    After my sister-in-law taking her kids to see NKOTB and telling me
    about it, that's when I started hating them.  I don't hate any band
    because I don't like their music.  I mentioned it in here once before
    that while the Centrum (I think that's where it was) was totaly wall to
    wall full of kids, the members of NKOTB were making obsene gestures
    (ie: grabbing themselves, etc).  Now I think they're *ss****s.
    
    Chris D.

    
    
    	Re: Flav and NKOTB
    
    	
    	Chuck D. (of Public Enemy) has frequently given credit to NKOTB
    for ignoring outside pressures to get rid of Maurice Starr.  I'm sure 
    Flav agrees with that.
    
    	
    Paul
    
    	

    
    	My .02...
    
    	Opening up with Hammer set the tone for the rest of the night..RAP!
    Geez...Anyways, The Ice-man needs to learn how to lip-sync better,he
    really missed a bunch of words.
    
    	What did Tommy say that the network cut off? They looked cool in
    this tux's. 
    
    	New Kids...they still suck! I hope my children never have a group
    like them to nag me with!
    
    	Gloria..glad to see her back...She could have picked a better tune,
    but that's the way it goes.
    
    	Haggard...he deserves it!
    
    Just another awards show gone by...Ho Hummm
    
    B.A.

    
    	I don't think Ice was lip-singing.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	RE: American Music Awards
    
    	FWIW - whenever NKOTB came on, I turned the station.  No biggie.
    	But this is not the "NKOTB s*cks" topic...
    
    	From what parts I've seen, I thought most of the awards were
    	pretty fair whether it was rap, metal, pop, etc...
    
    	tigga~~~

    Why do the entertainment industries 'music, film, radio, books,
    theatre', have to have awards ceremonies anyway?  Do performers have
    such fragile egos that self-agrandisment is the only cure for them! 
    They get paid enough and have the added bonus of the 'adulation'
    of their fans to get them through the day!  Not to mention being
    written about in the magazines and papers!
    
    No, I believe that the purpose of awards ceremonies are more about
    propping up the industries behind the performers.
    
    What a shame that 'concern about the war in the gulf' was not great
    enough to make them cancel the whole charade.  I suppose we will now
    have the pleasure of the Brits awards etc, ad nauseum.
    
    
    GAZ who_hates_all_this_crap
    

    
	RE: GAZ
    	>Why do the entertainment industries 'music, film, radio, books,
    	>theatre', have to have awards ceremonies anyway?  Do performers have
    	>such fragile egos that self-agrandisment is the only cure for them! 
    
    	Don't you feel more appreciated if you were to win an award
    	of some kind for hard work or something you've done??
    
    	>They get paid enough and have the added bonus of the 'adulation'
    	>of their fans to get them through the day!  
    
    	Hey.  What would you feel like if your boss told you that
    	you didn't need any recognition because you get paid enough
    	and your co-workers think highly of you?!  Ha... certainly
    	wouldn't do much for me. (8
    
    	>No, I believe that the purpose of awards ceremonies are more about
    	>propping up the industries behind the performers.
    
    	I don't argue you with you there either though... it's a lot
    	of hype.
    
    	>What a shame that 'concern about the war in the gulf' was not great
    	>enough to make them cancel the whole charade.  
    
    	Life goes on whether the war is there or not.  Life went on
    	while WWI and II were being fought, Vietnam, etc. etc.  I'd
    	be a mighty depressed chick if I had to constantly be reminded
    	that we're in a war.
    
    	tigg~~~

    re - 1.
    
    I don't.
    
    I'm not
    
    WE AGREE!
    
    Yeah, OK but skip the platitudes that they always feel the need to
    throw in.
    
    
    GAZ

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Subject: American Music Awards nominees announced
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:00:54 PST

	BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. (UPI) -- Soulful singer Mariah Carey was
nominated in six categories in the 20th annual American Music Awards
announced Tuesday.
	Carey leads the list of nominees for the 25 awards to be presented on
a network TV broadcast from the Shrine Auditorium Jan. 25. The program
will be hosted by Gloria Estefan, Bobby Brown and Wynonna.
	Other entertainers receiving multiple nominations are frequent Grammy
winner Michael Jackson and hip hop artists Kris Kross with five each and
country rocker Billy Ray Cyrus with four nominations.
	Singers Garth Brooks and Vanessa Williams and musical groups Arrested
Development, Genesis and TLC received three nominations each.
	Carey was nominated in the pop/rock categories for favorite female
artist and for singing ``I'll Be There,'' which was nominated for
favorite single. She also was nominated in the soul/rhythm & blues
category as favorite female artist and for her album ``Unplugged.'' 
	In the adult contemporary category, Carey's ``Unplugged'' also
received a nomination for favorite album. Carey was nominated for
favorite adult contemporary artist.
	Carey received five American Music Awards nominations last year but
only won one for favorite female artist in the soul/rhythm & blues
category.
	In this year's heavy metal/hard rock category, the groups Red Hot
Chili Peppers, Metallica and Def Leppard have been nominated for the
favorite artist award.
	In the country category, Brooks, Cyrus, Vince Gill and Alan Jackson
have been nominated for the favorite male artist award. Wynonna, Tanya
Tucker, Lorrie Morgan and last year's winner Reba McEntire have been
nominated as favorite country female artist.
	Singers Pat Benatar and Eddie Money announced the nominations at a
news conference at the Beverly Hills Hotel.
	American Music Awards winners are selected through a national
sampling of about 20,000 members of the public who are mailed ballots by
an opinion research firm.

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Subject: Jackson, Bolton, Boyz, Carey, McEntire winners at American Music Awards
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:55:11 PST

	LOS ANGELES (UPI) -- Michael Jackson, Michael Bolton, Mariah Carey and
newcomer Billy Ray Cyrus were big winners at Monday night's 20th annual
American Music Awards.
	Jackson's ``Dangerous'' was named favorite album and the reclusive
pop star performed the title song on the program broadcast from the
Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles on ABC. His ``Remember the Time'' was
also named favorite soul/R&B single.
	Bolton was another double winner, being named favorite male pop-rock
artist and favorite adult contemporary artist.
	Boyz II Men's ``End of the Road'' was named favorite pop-rock single
and they were named favorite band in the soul-R&B category.
	Cyrus's ``Achy Breaky Heart'' was favorite country single and he was
named favorite new country artist. Carey was named favorite female pop-
rock artist, while McEntire was named favorite female country artist and
her ``For My Broken Heart'' was named favorite country album.
	Genesis was named favorite pop-rock band, while Pearl Jam won for
favorite new pop-rock artist and favorite new heavy metal-hard rock
artists. Favorite new rap/hip-hop artist was Kriss Kross, which was also
named favorite new soul-R&B artists.
	Other winners included Garth Brooks, Alabama, Bobby Brown, Patti
LaBelle, En Vogue/Funky Divas, Metallica, Sir Mix-A-Lot and K.D. Lang.
	The American Music Awards are given to the top vote-getters in a
nationwide poll of some 20,000 music fans.
	Singers Bobby Brown, Gloria Estefan amd Wynonna hosted the show,
which also featured performaces by Bolton, Cyrus and Boyz II Men.

I think it's very interesting that the first paragraph lists the
so-called BIG winners!  What's the deal?  Each of the artists listed
won two awards, with the exception of Billy Ray Cyrus and 
Mariah Carey who only won one award...So why wasn't Pearl Jam
(who won two awards) included the the "big winners" category and
Cyrus and Carey relegated to the 6th paragraph?!

sheesh!

Lisa 

>    So why wasn't Pearl Jam (who won two awards) included the the "big
>    winners" category 
    
    Guess they weren't big enough.
    
    gh

I would say that Pearl Jam was a big winner because I personally thought
they had no chance the American Whitebread Music Awards

Michael Bolton?  Genesis?  Is this one of those sales awards?