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    Probably some band Bon jovi got,Because they Knew thats one band
    They could blow away on stage, (SkidRow) what a name!!!
    
     
    General Tama

    As far as I remember, SKIDROW, was the name of Gary Moore's first
    UK band. This was before the THIN LIZZY days. I doubt if it's the
    same band. But you learn something new everyday. 8^).
    
    
    					BONZO.

    Yo! General.
    
    	I object too that. I think Gary Moore is one of the most
    under-rated guitarists there is. ;^).
    
    But seriously, SkidRow was a great name for a band in the late 60's
    early 70's, when Gary Moore was with the band.
    
    					BONZO.

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>>    Yo! General.
    
>>    	I object too that. I think Gary Moore is one of the most
>>      under-rated guitarists there is. ;^)
    
       Bonzo I have no Idea who was in the band,It was a guess,
     And As far as Bon Jovi Goes,,,,,Sheeesh,
    
    tama 8^)
    
    		

    No Probs.
    
    After all Gary Moore, ain't been with anyband by the name SKIDROW
    in the past 15-20 years. Don't forget the smilies. ;^).
    
    			BONZO.

    The original Skid Row was an Irish rock band during the late
    sixties early seventies. I have one of their albums called
    48 hours(that's how long it took to record!!!). The line up was
    
    Gary Moore...lead guitar.
    Brendan 'the Brush' Sheils...bass guitar
    Nollaig(Noel) Bridgeman...drums(accordian on one track)
    
    Nollaig and 'The Brush' hail from Dublin and Gary is from Belfast.
    They did some UK and American tours but never made it big. They
    claim 'rip-off' in thier contracts and management dealings. They
    eventually disbanded and never really made much money out of it.
    
    Useless trivia...Brush Sheils thought Phil Lynott how to play bass.
    They grew up together in Dublin...and Brush admits now that the
    only reason he *volunteered* for the job was to get Phillo 'off
    his back'...he still smiles when he thinks how Phil made it big
    some years later with Lizzy and how they themselves went down the
    tubes. He figures that Phil was a bigger hit with the girls ;-) 
                                                                
    - Dave K.

    I Heard The Other Day On M T V, That The Band Skidrow That Is Touring
    With Bon Jovi Is Also From New Jersey! I Did'nt Catch To See If
    They Have An Album Out!

    Their debut album comes out in the UK on the Atlantic label on 
    January 23.
    
    
    Flip

    
    Comes out ?? COMES OUT ??
                          
    Today is the 26th dear, so it should be
                                           
    >> Their debut album *CAME* out in the UK on the Atlantic label on 
    >> January 23.        
                          
    I feel better now  8-)

    I saw a video from Skidrow on MTV, last Sat. HBB.  It was ok, but
    didn't really blow me away or anything.
    
    gh

    
    
    	Saw the video on HBBall (you too, eh gh?).  I thought	
    	they were good.  I'll tell ya something though.  For
    	those who enjoy the type of music JBJ plays, they
    	probably won't care for Skid Row.  They seems to be 
    	heavier than JBJ.  Then again, maybe you will like 'em!!
    
    	There is one guy in the band who looks to me like he
    	has an earring in his ear that is a long chain of some
    	sort and the other end is .... in his nose!  OUCH!
    
    	Tigger~~~

    Geesh, I give up!  8-)
    
    I saw the Video too, thought it was pretty cool.. it was heavier
    metal than I expected.. to my surprise.
    
    CJ

    
    
    	RE: CJ   heee heee heeee  (^8
    
    	Yea... That was what surprised me, too.  They were
    	alot heavier than I anticipated.  I liked the song
    	though.  What was it??  Oh yea...Youth Gone Wild.
    
    	Let me know how they were in concert, okay Mrs. JBJ
    	and the rest of you?!
    
    	Tigger~~~~

    Saw There video last Night,,,
    
          I think they try to hard to have the Motley Crue Sound,
    
    But Besides thet they seem like a Fairly Good Band,,,They have SomewhAT
    Originality.
    
    jim

    
        I heard "Youth Gone Wild" on the HBB Saturday night and I
        love it!!  I'd love to be at the Bon Jovi concert when they
        open, 'coz I think they're gonna blow BJ off the stage!!
    
        8^)
    
                                                       GTI
    

    RE:-1
    
                        M e     T o o!
    
    
    
    

    
    From .1 ...
    
    >Probably some band Bon jovi got,Because they Knew thats one band
    >They could blow away on stage, (SkidRow) what a name!!
    >
    >General Tama
     
    
        I see you've changed your mind, huh?
    
        8^)
    
                                                       GTI
    

    
        Anyone have the album?  I'd like to find out whether it's
        worth buying or not before I pay $15 for the CD.
    
        Thanks for any info!!
    
                                                       GTI
    

    RE-Shawn
    
    Yep' Most definatly,,I had no idea who they were Until I heard them,
    
    And YES THE General Changed his Mind,,,,
    
    
    the are good,and seem like a pretty wild band Live,
    Thanx for bringin that up shawn,Im deleting it!
    
    jim

    I read in Rolling Stone that the guitarist in skid row was in bonjovi
    originally then was replaced by richie sambora. Another idea insisted
    by the record conpany before b.J was signed.
    
    
    butchaka

    
    Yeah, I heard that too.

    Bought the album before two weeks and it's really a great one.
    especially 'Big Guns', 'Sweet little sister' and 'We are the youth
    gone wild' are the best for me ...but I love them all !!!
    
    slick rick_who_is_very_new_to_this_notesfile 

    I seen Skid Row in concert last friday night! They did not impress
    me one bit! The lead singer kept shouting out (F____ this and that)
    He made the concert a real bore! I don't know if it was because
    this is thier first concert tour or what, but their timing was off
    bad! I'd rather listen to the album a couple hundred more times!
    By the way, Bon Jovi was Great!

    I myself like Skidrow....Weare the youthgone wild....
    but,taken out of the Boston Herald without permission.....
    Bon Jovi's Opener Skid Row is yet another obnoxious hard-rock
    band with a whining,bratty attitude,mindlessly urging rebillion
    for no particular reason.
    
    B.
    

	I bought the CD after hearing "Youth Gone Wild" and I
	like it.  High points:

	Youth Gone Wild
	Big Guns
	Sweet Little Sister

	Low point(s):

	Shake It Like a Rattlesnake (basically a lame song)

	I like the fact that alot of the lyrics are understand-
	able ... and the musicians are good (not incredible).

                                                       GTI

    
        I thought Skid Row sounded pretty good when they opened for
        Bon Jovi in Worcester ... his between-song banter left alot
        to be desired, but his voice seemed to be fairly strong, and
        he didn't seem to run out of breath or crack, etc.
    
        I mean, they definitely sound better in the studio ... but
        compared to some bands I've seen live they're good.
    
                                                       GTI
    

    
    
    	You know what *I* couldn't believe? ...and call it ignorance
    	if you will...
    
    	Adam Curry was talking with the guys (Snake, Rachel and 
    	Sebastien) from Skid Row on the HBBall last week and someone
    	mentioned that they might have gotten their name from a
    	song Gary Moore (?) did way back when called "Skid Row"
    	and Sebastien says...
    
    	"I was -1 in 1967!!!"  You mean to tell me this guy is only
    	21?!?!?!?!?
    
    	YUM!!!!  
    
    	Tigg~~

    
    
    
    	If he said -1 that means he's only 20.....can't be!!
    
    	He looks young, but not that young....then again....Joe
    	Elliot was only 18 when Def Leppard started out...it's
    	kinda funny to look at the "Photograph" video...he looks
    	like a little kid compared to now!
    
    	JJ
    

    Its true, Sebastian is a child of 20 or 21.. and I agree.. YUMM
    
    I heard Skid Row is coming to the Channel on July 3.  Does anyone
    know if this is true and how to get tickets????
    
    Kris

    
    	I think someone had mentioned that there was no way lead
    	singer Sebastian Bach's name could really be Bach...
    
    	You're right.
    
    	It's Bierk (Norwegian)
    
    	Tigga~~

    
     I had never heard of Skid Row untill i saw them
     on the Power Hour Here in England.I thought they were
     very good.The did a song called "18 for life".I think?
     Does anybody know what album this is off as i would like to 
     Buy it.
    
                    THE_LOVEDRIVER
    

    
    	"18 and Life" is off their one-and-only self-titled
    	album.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    	FYI...
    
    	The song "18 and Life" comes from an actual incident where
    	Snake read about a kid who was playing around with a loaded
    	gun, not knowing it was loaded, and shot his buddy.  He was
    	18 and got put in jail for life.
    
    	Tigga~~~ (makes ME think!)
    

i heard the tape of skid row and really liked what i heard..
    
    i saw them on the headbangers ball the other night, the singers
    get a wonderful voice....
        
    

    
    	I though they sounded real good in concert ... alot better
    	than most bands seem to sound live.  I'd see 'em again.
    
    							GTI
    

    THANKS PETE...
    
    
    
    

    
    	The first time I saw them open for Bon Jovi I thought
    	they stunk...but this last time I just saw them at GW
    	they sounded alot better.  Sebastian didn't scream as
    	much so I could actually hear what he was singing this
    	time.  What is the name of the other ballad they do?
    	I really like it but can never remember the name!
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    The only other ballad I can think of is "I remember you" (or something
    like that).

    
    
    	Yeah that's the one!!
    
    	     THanks hon!
    
    	JJ
    

    
    	Someone wrote in and asked who the two guys were in Skid
    	Row's "18 and Life" video were. 
    
    	Ricky is played by Patrick Kane and his friend is played
    	by Bernie Menis, real life friends hwo have a band called
    	Forgotten Child.
    
    	They've independently recorded a self-titled album, 
    	completed in 1987, which they sell at gigs and via mail
    	order.
    
    	Well, *I* thought it was interesting.  (8
    
    	Tigga~~

    
    	The album is very good ... "Big Guns" and "Sweet Little
    	Sister" are also good, as are a few that I've forgotten
    	about.
    
    	Time to get the CD out again.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    re:.47
    
    Yup, the other track is "18 and life".
    
    Glad you enjoy it. get the album, its great.

    
    
    	Is "I'll Remember You"  also on that track?  I heard
    	them perform it in concert (it was better the second time)
    	and it's a nice "ballad".
    
    

    
    	Yes, it's on there.
    
    							GTI
    

    Yo, Jan
    
    Yeah, get the lp...its cool!
    
    I love the segue into Makin a Mess, and I remember You is cool.
    Midnight is a cool track as well.

    I think "I'll Remember You" sounds *just like* Poison.  I can't stand
    it.  "Youth Gone Wild" sounds like Motley Crue.  Don't these guys have
    a sound of their own?
    
    On the other hand, I'm really starting to like "18 and Life".  I hope
    the radio/MTV doesn't play it into the ground for me.
    
    gh

    
    	Hey,
    	I've listened to Skid Mark's new album, and it's good!!!
    I think this band stands well above the latest slew of similar
    sounding/looking HM/hardrock bands.
    
    	I love this guy's voice. 
    
    /Motorbreath

    
     I like the tune "18 and life to go" it's good......When I first
    heard the tune I thought it was Joanne Jett and the Blachearts....
    of course Till I seen the VideO.....
    
    
    Sax
    

    
       Yes, the album is great!  But... They s**k in concert!!!
    
    
    
    
    B.A.

    
    	I don't know why no one likes these guys ... the CD is
    	fantastic, and I thought they sounded good live.
    
    	Any insight?
    
    							GTI
    

    
    I don't agree, Shawn.  I saw them live and I thought they weren't
    too hot.  Sebastian ran around stage saying "F*ck you, F*ck you"
    the whole time.
    
    But then again, it's hard to say for sure how good they would be
    if they headlined..... after all, we all know how opening bands
    get treated soundwise.  ;-)

    
    I like em Shawn.
    
    Got tix to see them in November too.

    
    
    	Shawn, see my reply in the Motley Crue note...
    

    RE: Opening acts getting less than par sound treatment...
    
    	All of the opening acts I've ever seen have had their own
    	soundperson running the board.  Just my observation...
    
    	joe.

    re: Joe
    
    Maybe they should get a professional, huh?  Actually, I think that they
    are restricted in how much of the sound equipment they are allowed to
    use ("you guys get these eight channels...").  
    
    re: Skidrow
    
    I saw their performance at Moscow Music Peace Festival and didn't think
    that it was as bad as everyone seemed to say.  I thought that
    MotleySlimes' way lame performance was far less entertaining.
    
    I do, however, agree that Sabastian has a vocabulary that couldn't
    possibly consist of more then about 30 words, with about 8 of them
    being "f*ck".  I don't think that the overuse of one particular term is
    a very effective way of communicating...
    
    gh
                 

    
    	RE: Sebastian and f*ck
    
    		But what does that hafta do with the way they sound
    		live?  Granted, it makes him sound like he's an *ss-
    		hole ... but it doesn't affect his vocals any.
    
    							GTI
    

    re: Shawn
    
    Are you talking about my reply?  Note that I did have two seperate
    paragraphs when talking about them.  I also think that they are
    seperate issues for the most part.  But it does kind of turn me off to
    hear so much of that in the between song chit-chat.
    
    Gh

    He's not a college grad... He's a rocket scientist !
    
    ;^)
    
    Scratch

    re.69
    Yeah, sharp as a marble.

    
    I absolutely luuuuuuurve the bass on this album!!!
    
    Can't wait to see them in November!!!
    
    Flip

    re-1,
          You can wait!!!!!
    
          Their not that good "LiVe!"
    
    B.A.

    
    Who is the guy in the band that has the nose ring connected to
    a chain that goes to his ear??
    
    Everytime I see him I get the urge to want to tung on that chain. 8^)
    
    Rae

    
>    Who is the guy in the band that has the nose ring connected to
>    a chain that goes to his ear??


	 And it's either fake or he's got a hole in each nostril,
	 because it's never in the same side.....

	 /k

    
    	That's the bassist....and I'd LOVE to yank that sucker from
    his nose.  
    
    	I have nothing against earrings (I have 3 in one ear) and as
    a lot of you know I am by no means CONSERVITIVE.....but I HATE the
    nose to ear look.....
    
    BK
    

    
    His name is Rachel Bolan.
    
    re Kath it isn't fake....have you never noticed that some magazines
    print photos the wrong way round....it's easier to tell if they have
    tattoos because you know damn well 'CRUE' isn't spelt 'EURC'....
                            
    Flip

    
    
    	re: Rae
    
    	You too huh?  
    
    	Supposed you could lead him around like he was a puppy with that.
    
    	"Come here I said!! [yank, yank]..that's better...now go get
    	  me a drink!!"

    Isn't it funny how we change our tunes?  I thought the same as most of
    you when I first heard of them.  Skid Row?  Here comes another
    Cinderella...  But, even after passing them by on the radio a few
    times, I have to admit that I've really gotten into them.
    
    I bought the album.  They aren't typical metal.  They're harder and
    Sebastian has a really cool voice.  It's not Iron Maiden and it's not
    Led Zeppelin, so it's cool, and strong.
    
    The best tunes (so far) are 18, Youth Gone, and I Remember.  I'm really
    into I Remember.  It's harder than most "ballads", like that pathetic
    display by Warrant.  I hate them.  It's a good strong tune.
    
    The writing on the rest of the album is kind of weak.  But it's their
    first album, and when they mature, they'll have some good potential.
    
    Steve

    Extracted from an interview with Dave Sabo and RAW magazine:
    
    Q: What is the most peculiar request from a fan?
    
    A girl and her Mom wanted me to show them son=mething that's called
    'The Fly'.  It's the kinda thing you do when you're drunk; you whip
    your nuts out and they look like a fly!
    
    Q: Who's bathwater would you most like to drink?
    
    Rachel Ward's.  She's the actress who was in the movie 'Sharkey's
    Machine' with Burt Reynolds.  she's just so goddess-like in the
    film.  When I say it it was like BING!  Instant BONER!  I would
    drag my nuts over half a mile of broken glass just to jerk off on
    her shadow!
    
    Flip

    Sounds like this guy's obsessed with nuts.  I've been in love with
    Rachel Ward since I saw her in "The Thornbirds".  She's probably
    not looking quite as good, but I still have first dibs on her.
    
    	joe.
    
    	(she looked really good in"Deadmen Don't Wear Plaid")

    UK HEadlining Tour dates
    
    Sheffield City Hall		Nov 7
    Manchester Appolo		Nov 8
    Bristol Hippodrome		Nov 9
    Liverpool royal Court	Nov 11
    Newcastle City Hall		Nov 12
    
    Flip

    
    which tune?
    
    Flip

    
    well, what was it about?  I'm sitting here wracking my brains trying
    to figure out which tune of theirs is thrashy....and I can't figure
    it!
    
    Is it fast?  Big Guns?  Or alot of bass?  Piece of Me?
    
    ....this is gonna give me a headache!  :')
    
    Flip

    Yes...it's Piece of Me.  The new single.  They decided to make
    Sebastian look like a stud so when they release I Remember You
    next...all the girls will go crazy, and he'll be the new metal
    sensation to take over for Jonnie BonJovie.

    
    
    	Hey!! :-)
    
    	I'm wondering when they will release a vid for 
    	"I Remember You"  I love the tune....
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    	RE: GOLDSMITH
    	You really annoy me.
    
    	On to the subject at hand - like Pete, I couldn't believe that
    	it was Skid Row I was hearing when "Piece of Me" came on
    	to MTV.  Whoaa!!  good tune!
    
    	Tigga~~~
        
    	

    Re- Tigg~~  what annoys you about Steve's comment?
    
    I like the tune as well, I couldn't believe it was Skid Row.
    
    CJ

    
    skid Row will be making a personal appearance at London Rock'n'roll
    Farm, 6 ferdinand Street, Chalk Farm, London (just round the corner
    from Regents Park).
    
    Flip

    I was also surprised at "Piece of Me", it's much heavier then I thought
    they did.  Not a bad song either.
    
    gh

    Compliments of my lunch partner yesterday, I got to hear most of the
    album on the way to and from lunch, and I've decided that I like the
    album alot more than I thought I would.
    
    CJ

    
    
    	"Piece of Me" made it to #1 on the Top 15 Countdown on MTV
    	today (can you tell what I'm watching right now?)
    
    	Tigga~~~ (FWIW - 13 of the 15 songs were "HM")
    
    

    
    
    Isn't it great when you can remember

    
    
    Yea it is , but I Don't
                     
    
        Remember You ?!?!%$@?^?&
    
    
    
    Sax.......hee hee hee :^))
    

    
    Skid row make their personal appearance at London Rock'n'Roll Farm
    on november 1 and not on the 18th as I previously said.  They'll
    be there between 1pm and 3pm.
    
    Flip

>    Jon Bon Jovi got soooooo p*ssed off with vocalist Sebastian Bach
>    of support act Skid row on their recent tour together that he clobbered
>    the bum!  HARGH!  Uh...ahem, we mean...that's a tad ungentlemanly,
>    isn't it Jon, old fruit?  Most unlike you.
>    
>    Seb's got a busted lip an' you're to-oo blame, you give ro-o-ock
>    a bad name (bad name!).
>    
>    HARGH!  HARGH!  HARGH!
>    
>    Copied from Kerrang! without permision......
>    
>    Flip
    
    Kerrang!:	What, then, of the reports that Bon Jovi started a fight
    with you backstage on the second from last show on the US tour?  The
    smile drops like a glass to the floor.
    
    "Oh, wow, man...  I don't know if I should comment on that," sebastian
    says, then abruptly changes his mind, and clearing his throat, gives it
    to me like this:
    
    "What really happened was it was the end of the tour and the road-crew
    decided it was a gag night, right?  Maybe we took our little gag too
    far, I don't know.
    
    "I mean we did the same thing at the beginning of the tour and there
    was no comeback from his end or anything.
    
    "I was grabbed just as I was about to go onstage.  Somebody poured a
    gallon of freezing cold ice-milk over me.  But the intro tape was
    rolling and I just had to go on out there covered in all this shit....
    
    "So I go out there - big gag - and when I get to the mike I go into
    this rant against Jon.  Like, come on up here p*ssy and get a piece of
    me, motherf*cker!  And all this sh*t.  But see, he's my friend and it's
    like that's our sense of humour, you know?
    
    "But I guess in front of 20,000 people that maybe don't get the joke,
    it looked kinda heavy," he shakes his head.  "I mean, I watched the
    tape back and it came over really f*cking harsh, man.  It was like a
    riot was gonna start.
    
    "But, you know, this is my first tour.  I don't know all the rules to
    these games yet.  Then it turned out that Jon didn't know anything
    about what his roadcrew had done to me.  And he got p*ssed off and when
    I came of stage we had a fight....."
    
    The words trail off into a whisper.
    
    Flip

                                                          

    
    
    Let's see, Sebastion really looks like a woman, so are we to assume
    that he fights like one too?  Hmmmmm.
    
    Mr. Ed...likes the SR music, but the att's & ego's gotta go!

    
    
    I lent my Skid Row tape to Metal-Bimbo (Heather) after the gig at Hammy
    Odeon on 13/Nov and I haven't seen it since.....neither do I think I
    ever will again!  I tried to get it back last night but she wouldn't
    let me (good job I've got a spare!).
    
    In her own words, "Skid Row are ALOT better live, than on the album!"
    
    Flip

    Copied form Kerrang! without permission.
    
    Skid Row/Vain Hammersmith Odeon.
    
    When America sets out to court us with *the* killer rock band, we can
    only stand back, gulp hard and bite the bullet.  And GB's love affair
    with Skid Row is easily justified, infinitely fulfilling and just a
    little bit naughty.  When they do it this well, who needs a one night
    stand?
    
    Not Vain.  They're well intent on sliding permanently into our hearts
    and veins (!), twisting us round their grimy little fingers until we
    can't say no to Davy any longer.  And who would deny this man?  Not the
    Odeon; they would unpick his trouser seams with their teeth and then
    put 'em back together again with a blunt matchstick if he asked them
    to.
    
    Davy Vain likes to talk dirty to his people.  there's the shower rap
    preceding "Who's watching you" that'll either make you bolt the door or
    just swing it wiiiiide open.  And as the lyrics suddenly become "Who's
    f*cking you" you suddenly start to wonder if Davy *has* a bathroom
    door, let alone a bolt!!!
    
    But for all their bluster, Vain did lack that little spark of real
    excitement, hunger and attack; the baying of real want.  They were not
    everything I had hoped in the flesh, but their drug is firmly implanted
    regardless; I want more.
    
    Skid Row already have the world eating out of their sweaty hands.  They
    demand your very souls to tease, torture and make their own.  they take 
    likes for the living.
    
    "Makin a mess" turns the dripping tap on, and the first few rows should
    be claiming danger money as Sebastian Bach swings his mike crazily
    around above their heads.  For all Seb's girlie visage, he ain't no
    wimp.  Those looong legs ricoshet up and down like crazed pistons, one
    bare knee pushing in and out of the leather.  He crashes in to Rachel
    Bolan and they collapse into the speakers, bass howling.  It doesn't
    matter one solitary f*ck!
    
    "Big Guns" and "Piece of me" start off the first cracks in the walls,
    their heady blanket of noise crashing down with no respect.  Only
    Sebastian's long raps give the brain some respite - and he *is* funny,
    not the untouchable chiselled God you might expect.
    
    "18 an life" has Dave "the Snake" Sabo pulsating like a motorized
    Chivers jelly, while "Can't stand the heartache" just leaves the jaw
    scraping on the sticky carpet, eyes stretched wide and the ears well
    and truly bashed.  Yet all pales when they sing "I remember you", a
    song to cry to, laugh to...love to.  Look past the Seb-lust and read
    the lyrics.  "Sweet little sister" follows the anti Milli Vanilli rap,
    then "Here I am" ushers them off stage; high and mighty.
    
    UPROAR!!!  Then Skid Row, Vain, Lemmy and a lot of Champagne troop back
    on and make sure the "Train kept a rollin'".  With Rob Affuso on lead
    tambourine they couldn't go wrong, and for the first time Seb looks
    slightly unnerved as Lemmy puts a gently strangulating arm around his
    neck and squeezes.  Tight!
    
    Then we get Maiden's Steve Harris and Nicko McDrummer up for a steaming
    rendition of "Wrathchild", while Rob, Rachel and Vain hover behind the
    drumkit bopping along.
    
    And to leave us?  "Youth Gone Wild".  They were; NO competition.  Come
    back soon!!!

    
    	Speaking of "Makin' a Mess" ... I listened to the album
    	yesterday, and that song cranks!!  Another favorite of
    	mine off that album!!
    
    							GTI
    

    
    Have you seen them live?  They are the b*llz!
    
    Flip

    
    	Yeah, I saw 'em open for Bon Jovi ... I liked 'em.  I'd
    	like to go again, now that I know the album alot better.
    
    	I'd already bought it and listened to it a couple times,
    	but not enough.
    
    							GTI
    
    

    
    Make sure you check them out when they support Aerosmith in
    January...and if they do any headliner shows, go and see them!
    
    Flip  

    Anybody check out MTV this weekend ?  Seems Mr. Sebastian got himself
    in some hot water with the gay community concerning a T-shirt he
    wore at a gig.  Picture this ... black T-shirt with the "Raid" logo
    on it, only it says ...
    
    				AIDS
    
    		          kills fags dead ...
                          
    
    Not cool at all .... he said someone threw the shirt up on stage
    at a show, and he put it on.  He tried to make a half-hearted appology
    but his lack of sincerity was all too clear.  He was still making
    jokes about it as the interview was closing.  Kurt Loder of MTV
    didn't think it was very comical either ...
    
    
    
    					Scary
    

    RE.108
    Oh yeah, I saw that, definitely POOR taste. 
    What's wrong with these people when they know they are idols
    of thousands of adoring teenagers, and they do things as 
    irresponsible as that?? I mean, I wouldn't wear that stupid t-shirt
    myself, and a person that's constantly getting media attention
    would realize that it would cause him problems.
    What an idiot, he acts many years younger than he is, for sure.
    
    /Motorbreath...AIDS ain't no joke

    re. 108
    
    Yeah Scary I caught that on the week in rock or something.  What
    a jerk!!  VERY VERY VERY poor taste!!!  I had little respect for the
    guy in the first place after seeing them live and every other word
    was F. But, now I have NO respect for the guy.  
    
    Rae_who_is_bummin'_even_more_that_they_are_opening_for_Aerosmith. 8^(
    

                
                FWIW, I  liked  the  shirt.   It was a joke!  I'm
                sure he wasn't serious about it.  Well even if he
                was, that's his problem, I thought it was funny!
                
                - Rob -
                

    
     
    Throughout the tour, Sebastian has been wearing different shirts with 
    comical slogans - 
    
    "Get off my d*ck"
    "Kiss my ass"
    "No m*ff too tuff"
    
    I also found it quite amusing.

    If you didn't, whatever you do, don't go and see the likes of Kevin 
    "Bloody" Wilson, ADC, Billy Connelly, The Young Ones, Monty Python,
    or any other alternative comedian, because you will be truly offended!

    Flip

    
    Re: Rob
    
    	Exactly!!  Maybe a sick joke, but a joke!
    	Is everybody happy now? (you know who I'm talking too)
    
    Mr. Ed...

    
    	I thought it was funny.... cause it was a joke... oh well....mama
    always said I had a sick sense of humor...
    
    BK
    
    ANYONE GOT A KITTEN OR TWO THEY DONT NEED..??
    
    

    Let's say that your Grandmother was killed by a drunk driver.  Then
    you see someone wearing a T-shirt saying "Don't drink and drive,
    you might spill your drink ...".  Would you think that was a 
    "joke" ?  I fail to see his humor.  But then again, I fail to see
    the humor when anyone laughs at the misfortune of others.  That's
    a might judgemental place to put yourself, and no one, including
    Mr. Bach has that right.  My personal opinion is that Sebastian
    is a smart-a$$ punk that could really care less if he offended anyone
    or not - and his mock appology was every bit as offensive as the
    shirt.
    
    
    
    					Scary

    
    It's a sad fact Scary, but people are always gonna make jokes about
    other people's misfortunes, or things that they don't understand/they
    find frightenning - these things don't seem so bad, if you can laugh
    at them!
    
    You mean to tell me that you don't laugh at the "my wife is so fat...."
    jokes?!?!?  Come on, that's someone's misfortune!
    
    It was just meant as a joke!
    
    Flip

    Both my ex's were as big as the south end of a north bound Peterbuilt,
    so I can get a real charge out of fat-wife jokes.  I know some people
    wil always be cruel, but it's not always funny.  AIDS just isn't
    for homosexuals anymore, so you can't just slam that particular
    minority.  If Steve Vai had said it I probably wouldn't have taken
    it so hard, but Sebastian's such a butt wipe to begin with, this
    certainly didn't help ...
    
    
    
    				Scary

    
    I don't see that it matters whether is joke is in bad taste or not.
    What does matter is who it is communicated to. Whether he likes it or
    not, SB is now in a position of responsibility. Skid Row appeal to
    mature noters (:^}) and impressionable kids alike (this applies to any
    successful rock band or public figure). The man is welcome to any
    bigoted views he wants, but if he is going to flaunt those views on
    stage, or worse on national television, he is effectively encouraging
    other people to adopt those views. His action could lead to one more
    gay being beaten up, knifed, whatever. I may be a bleeding heart, but I
    consider this to be unacceptable.
    
    Paul
    ----

    I whole-heartedly agree with you Paul, and Scary as well.
    Messages like the one he sent to kids aren't going to help us to get
    people to understand the AIDS problem, or have any compassion for
    those suffering from it. If I were a child born with AIDS, or 
    someone that contracted it from a transfusion, I'd be pretty 
    offended by that pus*y's t-shirt.
    
    /Motorbreath...he's got a great voice for a loser

    Re:  Jokes
    
    But then again, what was the last joke you heard that DIDN'T make fun
    of someone's misfortunes?  EVERY joke is about misfortunes.
    
    Steve

    re: -1
    
    That's why I don't like most jokes...some sh*t ain't funny!

    
    
            I'm not getting involved in this discussion. Whenever you
         say something you offend someone in this discussion. Thats
         how arguments get started. Sb wore the shirt, appologised 
         because he wore it, lets leave it at that. O.k...
    
                       Doug..

    
    Thank you for saying that Doug!
                           
    Flip

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BUFFER::GOLDSMITH "Flying high on the Medicine Train" 4 lines  17-OCT-1989 15:05
                           -< get a Piece of Me... >-
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    Yes...it's Piece of Me.  The new single.  They decided to make
    Sebastian look like a stud so when they release I Remember You
    next...all the girls will go crazy, and he'll be the new metal
    sensation to take over for Jonnie BonJovie.
    
    
    
    Hey, did I call that one or what?  "I Remember You" is on it's way to
    being the big No.1 single.  The album will then be pushed back into the
    Top 5.
    
    Sebastian said on MTV that they didn't want to do another video because
    they didn't want to milk the album, etc... (Hmmm, I've heard that
    before.  Does Hysteria bring back any horrible memories of an album
    destroyed?)  
    
    However, then they will re-release "Youth Gone Wild" and "Piece of Me"
    and they will both become Top 10 singles, and then I can't predict
    any further than that.  
    
    You watch, though.  Tigga called me annoying, but it's true.  Submit to
    my power before it destroys you!!  Sorry.
    
    Steve "Just Call Me Jeanne Dixon"

    
    	"I Remember You" may be new to MTV, but that song got so overplayed
    this summer on upstate NY radio that I can't stand to hear it anymore.
    MTV is a little bit behind commercial radio...                    
    

    
    Did you know that Sebastian Bach was in the reformation of Madame X?!?!
    
    HE sure doesn't look like Roxy Petrucci!!!!
    
    Flip

    
    Incredibly boring fact number two:
    
    Did you also know that Dave Snake Sabo used to be in a band with a
    couple members of Britny Fox?  Did you want to?
    
    Flip 

    
    	Please go to note 594.
    
    	Thanks.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    Saw Skid Row for the 3rd time Saturday night.  Only caught 2 songs
    there sound was much better than the last two times I saw them but,
    ole garbage mouth ruined it as usual!!!!  There was a write up in
    a local worcester paper about the show and the author like the show
    with the exception of Seb and his mouth.  His attempt to be impressive
    with every other word being the f-word is useless.  IMO makes him
    look like a jerk!  
    
    The two songs we caught were I Remember and Youth gone wild.
    
    Rae

    
    You're still getting the CD collection!
    
    8^)
    
    Flip

    
    PLEASE save yourself the money!!!!!  8^) 8^)
    
    I'll give them to my stepbrother he was bummed we missed them.
    
    silly boy.

    
    
    	Caught a snippet of the MTV news this morning before heading
    off to work.  Seems someone was videotaping the Springfield show
    with the bottle incident.  Whoever it was was, sent the tape to 
    MTV.  It was pretty interesting.... SB is swearing something or
    other then he gets beaned with the bottle....  he swears a few 
    more things and starts pointing at someone asking if it was he/she/it
    who through the bottle.... SR starts playing a song and SB throws
    a bottle down into the crowd.... he then jumps feet first into the 
    crowd.... band is still playing.... security goes after him and 
    they get him back on stage.
    
    	MTV bleeped the swears so it was confusing following what he was
    saying when he got back on stage.  Something about the person could
    meet him after the show by SR's tour bus and the two could have it 
    out then.   
    
    	Good footage... I give it a thumbs up.
    
    Paul

    that was a very good video too, I missed the intro to it , was it a
    bootleg vid ? picture was great and so was the sound.....I'd like a
    copy of the A'smith part myself !
    
    
    	it was hard to follow what Seb was sayin' cause it was one long
    beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep ! 
    
    Chris
    
    

    
    	I saw that clip too.  Is Seb always so profane?  And he seemed
    like such a nice, clean, wholesome boy.  :)
    
    sean

    
    Go and pick on Jon Bon Jovi!!!  
    
    Flip

    aren't they brothers?

    Naw, they're sissyters.
    
    I think SB did ok, at least he wasn't a girlymon and let it slide. 

    
    	Don't worry Flip, Jon's getting bashed today too (as usual).
    
    	I haven't seen that clip yet.  I did see a clip of him when
    	he was in the courtroom.  Looked like your average 20 year
    	old punk that got himself into trouble and was scared stiff.
    	(that wasn't meant as a slam)  If you didn't know who he was,
    	you'd never guess he's the lead singer behind a hot metal band.
    
    	JJ
    

    
    Michael Wagener will produce the new Skid Row lp at the beginning of
    August.
    
    Flip

    
    
    	Hmm... when I saw the clip on EmptyTV...they said a trial
    	date of May 15 was set.... hmm...
    

    
    	Question:  I just finally saw Skid's video for Piece... Was
    that video taped at the Country Club in LA????  That place roolz!!!
    Just wondering.
    
    sean

    if micheal wagner is to produce the new skid row album it's going to
    a good un'

    
    	Does anyone else think this following exerpt makes NO sense?
    
    	RIP Magazine had a two part interview with Sebastian of Skid
    	Row.
    
    	SEB:  ...Everybody goes, "How do you get your hair looking
    		like that?"  I don't WASH the sh*t!  There's no effort
    		put into the looks.  I want to dye my hair blue, just
    		so I don't have blond hair anymore.  Every singer has
    		got blond hair.  It kinds of bums me out.
    
    	RIP:	Is it natural then?
    
    	SEB:	No, it's fake.  I dye it.  I like fake hair.
    
    
    	Go figure??!
    
    	tigga~~~

    
    
    	Well first he says that it bums his out because all these
    	singers are blond, but then he admits that his blond hair
    	is fake and he dyes it that way.
    
    	weird kid.
    	
    	tigga~~~~

    When I met Seb he has just had a *seriously* BAD dye job.  I'm like
    "Dude, what's the scam with your hair?" and he said "We're NOT talking
    about it!"  So I guess he likes fake hair that looks good!
    ;^)
    
    B.

    Some of that interview may have been sarcastic.

    Actually Pete....we've already said that in thi topic.  The opening
    replies were about Gary Moore's Skid Row and how seb/snake and co
    had nicked the name.
    
    Flip

    
    	Anyone watch the International Rock Awards last night?
    
    	Seb and ??(the dude with the nose ring,,,his name escapes me)
    	presented an award.  And Skid Row was nominated for best new
    	artist or something but was beat out by Alannah Myles.  They
    	were to only "metal" band nominated.  But Aerosmith and the Stones
    	ran away the awards.  Tyler actually looked good!  Not that anyone
    	cares, but Bon Jovi was nominated for tour of the year but lost
    	out to the Stones (yecch!) and Richie was there.
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    	RE: JJ
    	>?? (the dude with the nose ring...)
    
    	Rachel Bolan dear. (8
    
    	tigga~~~

    
    	I knew who it was but I just couldn't think of his name
    	(how I can forget the name of a guy with a nose to ear earring
    	  is beyond me!)
    

    
    	FYI
    
    	Seb was given a fine (didn't say how much) and 2 years
    	probation for the bottle throwing incident.  He pleaded
    	guilty.
    
    
    	JJ
    
    

    
    >what state was this in?
    
    
    	Probably intoxication.
    
    	8^)
    
    							GTI
    

    
    Springfield Taxachussets.

    Re what state he was in.
    
    It was a state of confusion. He was confused as to who to throw the
    bottle at. 

    
    	I was wondering that too Pete.
    
    	I'm sure they've created special circumstances..
    
    
    

    
    They did with Vince Neil so why not with Seb Bach?
    
    

                One charge  was  dropped, he settled out of court
                with two people who claimed they were hurt in the
                incidence and was found  guilty on one charge and
                given a fine and probation.
                
                

    Has anyone heard about a new album out soon???? are they even working
    on one or are they all still trying to see who can make it to jail the
    fastest...
    
    
                               The "B."
    

    They are working on a new album. It should be coming out in stores
    sometime in February 91" or so I have heard.
    
    

    Is this file dead or what?  Helllloooooo?
    
    Anyone still listen to Skid?
    
    'april

    I still listen to the Skid's every now and then.  
    
    CDs remind me of when I bought them and where I first listened to them.
    I bought the Skid CD is Colorado Springs, and listened to it on trips
    up I-25 to Denver...so whenever I wanna be in that space, I yank it
    out.
    
    I already told ya that Slaughter's SITY was purchased in Dallas, and
    reminds me of the 3hr drive up I-35 to OKC...weird, huh?  I think it's
    cool, though...

    I still listen to them once in awhile.  I think the album has a really
    good sound.  I'm a little tired of some of the songs that got excessive
    airplay/cover band play, but overall I still enjoy it.
    
    What's their deal though, they ever going to put out another album or
    what?
    
    gh

    I"ve been listening to the skids alot latley ever since I got their
    home video " Oh Say Can You Scream..." What a great video they have
    some really funny sh*t in there. I also heard that old Sebatian only
    got a 16,000 dollar fine and a six month suspended fine. I knew he
    wouldn"t do anytime, I would have say he lucked pout in a severe
    way!!!!
    
    
    
                                        The "B."
     

    
    
    The Skid Row video shows live footage from their tour around the US,
    plus the promo videos of their singles.
    
    Looks like they had problems filling that tape as there seem to be alot
    of encore cover songs.
    
    Flip

      I heard their first depute of their new release on WAAF tonight.  It
    was called Monkey Business.  For a first impression, it sounded not bad
    but it Sabatian sand it like a Heavy Metal rap song.  I couldn't tell
    what the words were.  It had a good beat though.
    
    Boz

    
    
     Ya, I heard it last night on AAF top 9 at 9.
    
     It was #1 and VH was #2.....................     
    
                                                                  Marko

    I heard the new song too!
    But I thought it was called "Monkey On My Back?"
             All I know is that It cranked and and had mucho balls!
                                     Frizkid
    

    
    	Hmmm... I'll have to check out the top 9 at 9 tonite...
    	I've been wondering when we'd hear new Skids tunes...
    

    
    
    	It would figure!!!  We were on our way home when I heard
    	VH and then didn't hear what number 1 was...
    
    	eesh... and I've been WAITING to hear it, too!
    
    	tigga~~~

    
    This song kicks, very powerful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I hope the rest of the album kicks, But I have faith......
    
    
                                         Marko

    I heard about the last 10 seconds of it on the radio last night and it
    immediately caught my ear.  Sounded like it was pretty crankin!  I hope
    to hear the whole thing soon!
    
    gh

    I've heard it quite a few times so far.  Good song!  

    
    
    	I've finally managed to hear the entire song... and
    	I found myself singing Paradise City to it!!!
    
    	Does anyone else find that to be the case?
    
    	tigga~~~

    
    
    	I like the tune.. think it kicks.. But the start
    	of the song sorta reminds me of Whitesnake... 
    
    
    	JW-

    NO WAY KIMMY!
    
    I heard the song in it's entirety yesterday (first time, actually),
    and I said to myself, THIS IS PARADISE CITY!  It is the SAME chord
    progression, and in the SAME key ("G", with guitars tuned to Gb).
    
    What a rip off.

    
    
    	I heard part of it on Friday.  Thought it was pretty good.
    	

    would one of you mods please fix this... it's SKID ROW!!!
    
    not Skidrow!

    
    
    	RE: Buck
    
    	Actually I didn't even notice until my beau made mention
    	of it and then I caught myself singing Paradise City
    	to it!!
    
    	tigga~~~ who likes it but...

    Well again I heard the promotional copy.
    
    
             Monkey Business kicks but you should hear the back side!
    It's a song called SLAVE TO THE GRIND sounds like SKID ROW does
    Metalica!  Loud,fast and thrashin'!
    
                   I can't wait for the album!!!
           
                           Frizkid
    

    
    
    Yea I heard it, diffinately _SR!!!.. it rocks... i think of sounds
    like a song off theit last album.. "piece of me"
    
    
    	wendy o'
    
    

    -1
    
    Ahhhhh, classic Wendy 'o

    She truly types like a woodpecker on cocaine. 

     Well.........The new SKID ROW is out!!!!!!
    
     It's called "SLAVE TO THE GRIND"!
    
         There is one slight issue that I KNOW you all will want to comment
    on.......on the album there's a song called GET THE F*CK OUT!!.
    It's basically a song busting on groupies but it very descriptive.
    
      Something like:I puke,I stink...B^tch go get me a drink
    Who do you think is paying for the room? 
    You not my wife,your not a tattoo
    are you finding it hard to swallow my attitude?
    No need to whisper
    No need to shout 
    This parties over so....Get the F*CK out!
    
    
                  The album is total attitude and very heavy!!
    I think they might have some trouble with air-time this time around.
    
    Also the video for "MONKEY BUSINESS" is on t.v. now!
    
    
          This album kicks!!!
    
                                 Frizkid
    
    
       

    The video is pretty good - real goood tune too.
    
    I like the attitude implied by GTFO .... but I don't think the video
    will do well ... heh heh heh ....  8^)
    
    
    Scary

    
    
    I think I heard GTFO on WAAF the other day!  
    
    ???
    
    

    After being fortunate enough to have bought this great peice of HEAVY
      METAL history(Slave to the Grind)......I am sure this is a
    masterpiece of the attitude,atmosphere and pure metal heaven!!!!!
    
    
        This album rules the planet and is a must for all angry(yet
    thinking) METAL_HEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
                   Frizkid
    

    
    
    
    	RE:-1
    
    
    	I just bought the album this past weekend...
    
    	IT ROCKS!! What attitudes! 
    
    	And ya gotta love the guitar sound... HEAVY!
    
    	Slave to the Grind kicks some serious a$$!
    
    
    	JW-

    Hmmm, I may have to pick up this little number ... Monkey Business is a
    great tune.  If the rest of the album hits as hard as that one, these
    guys may be onto something !
    
    Scary (who says the person in the next office is either having tuna for
    lunch, or needs to go shake out their shorts ... WHOA MOMMA !)

    
    
    Gross!!
    
    I saw a little blurb on MTV news about how Sebastian Back almost got a
    stack of Marshall on top of him because he was saving a fan from the
    security guards..  They showed it..  This kid jumped up on stage, and a
    bunch of roadies were trying to drag him off by the amps, and Sebastian
    went up to them and waved his arms around, you know, telling them to
    stop and right after he turned around and left, all the amps fell to
    the ground!!
    
    Pretty cool though
    
    Goddess F.

    Then he said "Welcome to the Guns and Roses and SKID ROW tour"
    
                   What coolness!!!!!!!!!
    
              They can do no wrong in my eyes!!!!!!
    
    
                         Frizkid
    

    
    
    	F. 
    
    	I saw that too....I'm sure he must have been s******
    	twinkies though!  Those suckers were HUGE!
    
    	JJ
    

    
    
    Well whatever, I wasn't paying attention to the name brand!

        Oh no  problem  F.,  cause even they said `Marshall' amps.  I
        just kinda' chuckled  when  I  saw  the  name `Rivera' on the
        speakers after they said it. :^)
        
        Matt

    
    didnt see the clip but they were probably just amps for show like many
    other bands use.  just empty cabs.  still would have hurt im sure!
    
    

        RE: Rob/.last
        
        Nope,  they  were  full  blown  `Rivera'  cabs  and  full  of
        speakers.   I  must've  seen  that  clip  about  four  times.
        Definitely would have given him a headache !!!
        
        METALord"'

    Headache, maybe - brain damage, slim chance ....  8^)
    
    Scary (in Laney_land ...)

    ********************* A T T E N T I O N ****************************
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
     S K I D    R O W'S  ALBUM "SALVE TO THE GRIND"  went straight to 
    
        NO#1 in the FIRST week of it's release!
    
     They are the first Heavy Metal group to go No#1 in the first week!!!
    
    
            I told you so......................
    
                     Frizkid
    

    They rule!
    
    Sabastian Bach's Secret Lover = ME!!!

       You wish!!!heeheeheeheeheeheeheehee
    
                      Frizkid
    

    No, really it's the truth...

    Straight in at No 2 in the UK,i do believe. Wicked album - super,duper
    heavy. Lets hope this`ll be a precedent for bands of this ilk.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

       Did he write GET THE "funk" OUT for you?
    
                       Frizkid
    

    Naw Friz, 'pril was right. 'Cept he recently "cast" her aside.

    Jesse!
    
    Feeble! *8^)  Get off my case will ya?

    re:Frizdude...
    
    No, Sabastian would NEVER talk 2 me like that!  Bite your tounge...

    That's right, Friz!  The line didn't have "f*ck" in it enough times! 
    We could easily tell it wasn't a direct quote from Sebastian...
    
    gh

    Thanks to GH's insightfulness we catch a guilty-as-hell line dropper.
    Kudos to gh for exposing this criminal.
    
    
    re 'pril. 
    
    Let she who is without sin "cast" the first stone. 

    
    Hey 'Prissy, did I ever tell you about the time when I was on the floor
    for Skid Row....
    
    ...all of them.  8^)
    
    Flip

    oo er!
    
    
    
                                       Staynz

    Flip, your vicious!

      Ah, but so perkinspacious!
    
    
    
    GAZ

     Flip......
    
       Do you wanna a floor seat to one of our shows?8*)x1,000,000
    
                   Frizkid
    

    re: .211

    That's VISCOUS...
    
    re: .223
    
    Make sure she's not on your mailing list.  Don't wanna compromise yer
    principles or anything...
    
    gh

    Flip Flipped.

    
    re .223,  make sure you got some boiled eggs handy though!
    
    
    GAZ

    
    	I picked up "Slave to the Grind" last night on the way home, and
    	gave it somewhat of a first listen ... I was tired, and I fell
    	asleep before the last 2 songs.
    
    	It's extremely heavy ... much heavier than the first one.  But
    	so far I don't know if I like it any better or not ... it'll be
    	another listen or 2 before I can really make a decision.
    
    							GTI

    The song on the "clean" version of SLAVE TO THE GRIND,(That takes the
    place of GET THE F**K OUT) is called BEGGAR'S DAY.
    
           Good tune but is nowhere as cool as the GTFO.
    
                             Frizkid
    

    re: .228
    
    Are there two versions of the album?
    
    gh

    
    
    Yes.  There is the  R rated version, and the "clean" version...   On an
    MTV blurb, speaking on the two version of the album, the guitarist who
    was sitting with Sebastian, said something to the effect of that the
    PMRC is afraid of the R version, because thats all the stuff their
    wives want to do to Sebastian!
    
    
    Goddess F.

    
    
    	re: F.
    
    	bahahahahaaa!   I missed that interview.  I would have loved
    	to have heard that.....
    

    
    
    You should have seen the look on Sebastians face!  It wasn't a pre-made
    up thing..
    
    Check MTV news, it might have been on there..

    
    	I would have been pissed if I ended up with a "censored" version
    	of an album without knowing it!!
    
    	I don't remember if the cardboard box had a warning on it, but
    	the plastic case inside the box does have an advisory sticker on
    	it ... which of course isn't visible until you open the box.
    
    							GTI
    

    	A friend of mine went to see GNR and Skid Row at Charlotte..he said
    that all that SR did was say F**K all the time...said the sound was
    so,so..but nothing to write home about. Said Sabastian(sp) was rude and
    crude among other things.

    	As for GNR..he said they got off!  Sound was great! Band was tight!

    B.A.

    From what I've heard of SR's newest(and heaviest)..I tend to wonder..
    Did the Big Managers(record and road)get together and say...
    "Hey,Skid Row---Make an album in the same style as AFD and maybe we
    can get you on a MAJOR tour with them when they finally hit the road
    again".
    JMHO but I think this might have happened..SR had at least a year and
    ahalf to do it.
    Both bands basicly draw the same crowd..
    I'm not complaining.1(that is near to or almost equals 1)+1(that is 
    near to or greater than 1)usually equals=2.
    
           Crazy_I_wish_I-knew_an_insider_Al

    
    
    What probably happened is what happens with alot of bands.  Its there
    first album, and the producer calls all the shots.  Decides what to
    release and how the music will even sound..  They might have been a
    cool band from the beginning, but didn't have the authority to speak up
    when the record company was shooting for the puberty age group.  Then
    they made tons of money, and they are calling the shots!!
    
    Goddess F.

    
    >when the record company was shooting for the puberty age group.
    
    
    	You mean the female teeny-boppers, right?  8^)
    
    	[Keep talking long enough and you'll do a better job of proving
    	my point than I'm doing.  8^)]
    
    							GTI
    

    
    
    
    I said puberty.  I didnt' specifiy a gender!!!
    
    We are the youth gone wild - is probably perfect for puberty-ridden
    boys to yell and scream on the school bus!
    
    Goddess F.

    Friz treated me to a sampling of the Skids new album at lunchtime a few
    days ago.  Forgot to put something in here about it at the time though. 
    
    Sounded pretty crankin!  What an attitude!  I'll be pickin a copy of
    this one up for myself pretty soon.
    
    gh

    Do it Greg, it rocks!

    
    Sorry folks, on first listening, I don't like it.
    
    Flip

    
    
    
    	Listen to it again....
    
    	;')

    
    
    
      ........don't bother!
    
    
    
    GAZ

    
    
    	ouch!

    Skid Row Rules The World And Don't You Ever Forget It!!!!!

    
    I loved the first album....five of my friends were force fed with the
    tape for Xmas presents...but since then, I've gone off them.
    
    

     Well......Just because ya fall off the horse doesn't mean ya can't 
    get back on!
    
                         I can't believe YOU don't like heavy?
    Flip are ya sick??
    
                             Frizkid
    

    My roommate got this cd on Friday. I still think it sucked, but not as
    mush as I thought. Definately had a few good songs, but the songs that
    sipped, sipped hard.
    

    
    Try it again Flip, you may like it.

I got also SttG and while at the first listening I was not very impressed,
I quite enjoyed a second higher volum listening (on headphones this time).
It is for sure a heavy album close to old Aerosmith style (good if you like
Aerosmith's "Rocks"). I prefer actually SR to G&R (Bach is a better singer).
The two ballads on the album (especially Quicksand Jesus) are very good.
Act of Riot (??) is an excellent hard kicker, a little bit like a heavy weight
Ramones. The overall recording quality is not the best. I was much less
impressed by SR's first album. This one is better and my only objection is that
it sounds very influenced by Aerosmith (but isn't this a good influence ?).

Flip, have you listened Metal Church's last ?

Sorin

    
    Sorin,  I didn't know Metal Church had a new album!  Any good?
    
    Flip

Flip, I think I've introduced a short review of MC's new album in the 
Metal Church topic. "The human factor" is a little bit less heavy than BiD
but it rocks more and it shows better integration of the band. Kurt Vanderhoof
(the original guitarist) co-writes almost all of the songs. A fine album.

Sorin

    
    Um, that's not exactly new, is it?
    
    

    Re. last
    
    MC's "The human factor" was released about 2 months ago.
    
    Sorin

    I listened again StG. "Monkey business", "Mud kicker" and "Riot act"
    are the best rockers from the album for me (the title track is also
    fine). GTFO and "Creep show" are for me musically quite weak. And again
    the recording and sound mixing seem quite bad (high frequency,
    distortion and bad left/right balancing on few songs). Still a good
    album.
    
    Sorin

    I taped the CD last night off the radio ... I'm sure there was some
    fidelity lost over the airwaves, but this album kicks some MAJOR A$$ !!!
    
    I haven't listened to all of it, but the 3-4 songs I've heard so far we
    VERY good.  Total attitude here !  I'll post more after I've heard all
    of it.
    
    Scary

    I saw the new SKID ROW vid. last night {SALVE TO THE GRIND},
    
              Total ATTITUDE!!!!!!!!!
    
                          Very unexpected 2 pick for a vid. but 
    I like it!
    
                       Frizkid
    

    
    
    
    	New vid. kicks ass!!! I was surprised too!!!

    The entire new CD kicks !  I highly recommend this.
    
    Scary (who taped it off the radio, then bought the CD)

    
    
    
    New video for what song?
    
    

    
    
    
    	Slave to the Grind..

    
    I liked the video too. I also saw it this morning. Kicks Metallica's
    rear end all over the planet.

          Pete..............RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
                 I never thought I'd hear that out of you.8*)!
    
          I'm grinnin' from ear to ear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
                Frizkid.....Who's turnin' on lots of old and young people
    on to "SLAVE TO THE GRIND"!
    
    

    
    Yeah... I saw it too. It was great. Althought I didn't like the way
    Bolan was playing his bass, I know it's nitpicky, but hey, that's what
    I'm here for....
    
    > Kick's Metallica's butt???????
    
    What are you nuts!!!!!!!!!
    The flasing lights were cool, and the footage of the falling was
    awesome... as was the coinciding of "BOOM" and the truck hitting the
    bed.....
    
    
    Chris
    

    this video rulz!  and I WILL have Sebastian's children!!  `8)
    
    Maria, you're history!!!
    
    'pril

    
    
    Totally expected from a band who desparately wants to be respected
    for their music rather than selling out like glam rock crap which
    is making my hair fall out.
    
    Gerry

    
    I heard da new Metallica tune right before it yesterday morning.
    I still don't like it. Even Motorhead is more progressive.

>    I heard da new Metallica tune right before it yesterday morning.
>    I still don't like it. Even Motorhead is more progressive.
    
    Don't like what?  The new Metallica, or the Skid Row?
    
    

    
    
    the new Metallica

    
    	The new Metallica isn't supposed to be progressive, though ...
    	it's straight-ahead stuff.  And I think that's why I like the
    	older stuff better.  They used to be "set apart", per se, from
    	other bands ... now they're on their way to blending in with
    	them.
    
    							GTI

    blending in?  I think they still have their own distinct sound.
    
    Never was, never will be anything like it EVER!
    
    'pril
    

    
    
    
    		   YOU BET YOUR A$$ THERE'S NOTHING LIKE 'EM!!!!!!!
    
    		   ....AND KILL'EM ALL WHO SAY DIFFERENT!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    A cheery metal up your A**, provided by....
    
    Chris.
    

    
    
    Hey Chris, you gotta start using smileys, or people are gonna get
    pissed with ya!
    
    
    Goddess F.

    I agree, Chris!  even though you probly don't give a sh*t...
    
    ...what people think of you that is...

    As a matter of fact I do.... but I'm not out to offend or piss anyone
    off. It's nothing personal. Anything even slightly derogatory I say
    shouldn't be taken seriously, because I don't mean it to be. Besides I
    didn't and don't know what a smilly face is (is it the 8*) thing??)
    
    
    Chris, the gentle as a pussycat kinda guy....
    

    Ya dude, 
    
    8^)
    
    tilt your haid to da left and look at it.

    or the right (*8

    Last night I heard the new single from Skid Row called "Slave to the
    grind" and I have to admit it,it's pretty damn good!I still think
    Sebastian Bach is a dickhead,though.
    
    
    
    
                                             Staynz

    
    
    	re: -1
    
    	Actually I saw the interview with Seb before the MTV music
    	awards.  He held a pretty decent conversation with Kurt Loder.
    	Kurt asked him about the "AIDS kills fags dead" t-shirt and he
    	said it was thrown to him on stage.  AND that he has a close
    	friend who is gay and told him that the t-shirt offended him..
    	so Seb tossed it.
    
    	Did you guys know that he has a kid?

    >	Actually I saw the interview with Seb before the MTV music
    >	awards.  He held a pretty decent conversation with Kurt Loder.
    >	Kurt asked him about the "AIDS kills fags dead" t-shirt and he
    >	said it was thrown to him on stage.  AND that he has a close
    >	friend who is gay and told him that the t-shirt offended him..
    >	so Seb tossed it.
    
    Good to see Seb is finally growing up!  Last interview I saw with Kurt,
    Seb was touting "It's a cool shirt.  Yeah, I know it may offend some
    people, but what are you gonna do?"  I didn't appreciate his flippant
    attitude on such a sensitive subject.
    
    Buck                                 

    
    
    	RE: Did you guys know Seb had a kid?
    
    	He does???  nope.. didn't know that.... how old?
    	boy? girl? thing from space? (8
    
    	tigg~~~

    
    
    	He has a son but didn't say how old.  I'm guessing walking
    	age just by the way he was talking about him.  He was saying
    	how he used to have to sneak him in the back door at his
    	concerts to maintain his "image" of a metal rocker but 
    	decided to hell with it and now just brings him in with
    	him wherever he is.
    
    	He also talked a bit about the incident in Springfield.  How
    	stupid he realized it was but that they had been on the 
    	road for a long time, he was exhausted, etc.  Swears he'll
    	never let anything like that happen again. 
    
    	He's originally from Canada BTW.
    

    
    
    	I knew he was from Canada, you can tell by the accent, but
    	I didn't realize he had a son.  Hmmm... maybe I can get
    	Cassidy to meet him, marry him and make her mom rich. (8
    
    	tigg~~~~

    I was talking with a guy from New York who knew the band,it has him who
    told me the band was from Toronto,
    
    
                                                Staynz

    in this months People mag., there's an article all about him and his
    kid.  He's a cutie!  Gonna be a real heatbreaker when he grows up...
    

    They also are on the cover of the new GFTPM with complete tab to "The
    Threat" (including drums!).
    
    Mike

    I think the kid is 3 years old. 

     The kid is three and his name is:
    
                  PARIS!!!!!!!!!
    
                        Frizkid
    

    Thanks!

    -2
    
    Pretty sad when you bname your band after some poseur's brat kid!  8^)

    
    
               8)!
    
                       FRIZKID
    

    
    	RE: Friz
    
    	I read an article in People magazine where he wouldn't
    	even name Paris' mom, where'd you see a pic?
    	
    tigg~~~

      There was a picture of BASS  and her in one of the Skid mags I have.
    
              Her name is Maria.....
    
              Bleach blonde,Big lips,Shapely bod.!!!!!!
    
           She's look pretty 'cheap' though.
    
                         Frizkid
    

    In Rolling Stone they said that "Maria" is his girlfriend...
    
    Never heard them mention she was the mommy??  She sure doesn't look
    like the "mommy" type to me!

    I've been listening to "Slave To The Grind" for the last few days and I
    have to say it truly kicks!  Highly recommended on the GH must buy
    list.
         
    gh

      TOLD YA SO!!!!!!!!!!!
    
             Frizkid....Who loaned out to Greg!
    
    

    Loaned out to me, sold out to the teenie-boppers!
    

                                PRETTY BAD BOYS
    
          WILL SKID ROW FINALLY GET SOME RESPECT, HEAVY-METAL STYLE?
    
    
    Taken without permission from Rolling Stone Magazine, Issue 613, 
    September 19, 1991.
    
    
    
    
    "If you think, you *skink*."
    
    That, according to lead singer Sebastian Bach, is the motto that Skid 
    Row tries to live by.  But even though heavy metal is not a genre noted 
    for heavy thinking, there's no shortage of interesting information one 
    can learn from the boys in this band.  In fact, Skid Row's ferociously 
    powerful opening sets for Guns n' Roses this summer were veritable 
    heavy metal seminars, full of useful information for the young, 
    headbanging mind.
    
    Consider, for example, some of the hard-rockin' tidbits one could have 
    picked up during the band's show at the Pacific Amphitheater, in Cost 
    Mesa, California, in late July:
    
    There, Bach explained that the song "Psycho Love," from *Slave to the 
    Grind,* the group's latest album, is about "something I f(ckin' love to 
    do - tying people up and saying, "Tie me up, tie me down, whip me, suck 
    me, f(ck me!"  Of course, the man who actually wrote the song, bassist 
    and chief songwriter Rachel Bolan - the guy with the girl's name and 
    the nose chain, for those not in the know - offers a slightly different 
    interpretation.  For him, the song is about a prostitute who likes to 
    kill her johns before servicing them.
    
    Bach - a man who looks and sounds as though he has been genetically 
    engineered to be the ultimate hard-rock frontman - is also very 
    concerned about foreign affairs.  He made no bones about his hatred of 
    "f(ckin' war," in the abstract, and "Saddam F(ckin' Insane," in 
    particular.  But world affairs wasn't the only subject he explored; 
    during an audience-participation segment, there was also a little 
    applied math, as Bach led the crowd in a chant of "One, two, f(ck you!"
    
    You could also come to understand that Skid Row is a group that's not 
    above criticism, both from itself and others.  In introducing the 
    controversial groupie-bashing number "Get the F(ck Out," Bach said:  
    "This is a song about someone like me.  Someone who comes over to your 
    house and ends up f(ckin' puking on your carpet and pissing on your 
    dog.  You know the type:  Instant *A((hole* - just add alcohol."  The 
    song itself is an over-the-top piece of insensitive songwriting, 
    featuring the deathless lines "Well I puke, I stink, bitch get me a 
    drink/'Cause I'm paying for the room/I ain't buying you 
    breakfast/So keep you mouth busy and wrap your lips/All around my 
    attitude."
    
    And should you want to know more about their attitude, you can gain 
    valuable insight into the manner in which the members of Skid Row like 
    to spend their free time.  Throughout the show, Bach warmly 
    acknowledged those in the audience who were smoking "some 
    motherf(cking' nature."  And as he left the stage, he said, "I'm gonna 
    go backstage, light up a big *f(ckin'* doobie, drink a Jack and Coke 
    and watch some *f(ckin'* Guns n' Roses."  And damned if that is not 
    *exactly* what he did.
    
    
    What ultimately separates Skid Row from some of the competition - the 
    worthless hair bands and other hard-rock poseurs - is that this is a 
    band that's exactly what is seems to be.  In a world where other 
    rockers rush off-stage to an emergency board meeting with their 
    accountants, Skid Row is the real deal, a band of surprisingly sweet 
    and sincere twentysomething guys who could hardly be happier with their 
    chosen line of work.
    
    "I've always said that the only difference between us and our fans is 
    the stage," says guitarist Dave "the Snake" Sabo.
    
    "We're pretty much the same punks that we always were," adds Bolan.
    
    So if someone in Skid Row says that he's going to get f(cked up 
    backstage, by all means believe him.  Not that anyone in the band wants 
    to encourage you to do the same.  "I only advocate drug use for me and 
    my band, *dude*," says Back, before breaking into his howling laugh and 
    offering one of his trademark violent hand slaps.
    
    Call is definitive proof of the Theory of Hard-Rock Relativity:  While 
    the members of Guns n' Roses were busy making all the headlines this 
    summer, their similarly rowdy tour mates in Skid Row were coming off 
    like angels by comparison.  And they were selling lots of albums along 
    the way - more than 1.5 million copies of *Slave to the Grind* thus 
    far.
    
    With its new album, Skid Row has become a band of hard-rock heroes 
    worth taking seriously.  Heavier and more ambitious that the band's 
    quadruple-platinum 1989 debut effort, *Skid Row*, the new album entered 
    the *Billboard* chart at Number One, a remarkable feat for a solid 
    piece of grunge rock that makes few concessions to the 
    power-ballad-hungry marketplace of the early Nineties.  The album 
    confidently establishes Skid Row as more than just another slick metal 
    act like Poison or Winger - a false impression that the more 
    user-friendly debut may have helped to create.  The second time around, 
    Skid Row has served up a wonderfully rude announcement that this is a 
    band that's in it for the long run.
    
    "For us, it's not just that we want to sell another 4 million records," 
    says Sabo.  "What we want to do is stay around awhile, like Aerosmith.  
    We'd trade some sales for some respect, because we're serious about the 
    music."
    
    "We'd like to be like one of the incredibly cool bands we grew up on, 
    whether it was the Sex Pistols or Kiss," says Bolan.  "We'd like to be 
    great, you know?"
    
    That's a mighty tall order for this young New Jersey-based group.  
    Until now, the band has received less attention for its music that for 
    the various people it has managed to piss off.  That list includes 
    early benefactor and mentor Jon Bon Jovi, whom Bach publicly took to 
    task for exploiting Skid Row when he took a large portion of their 
    publishing proceeds in exchange for his early support.  It also 
    includes assorted nonhomophobes, whom Bach outraged by donning a 
    T-shirt bearing the slogan AIDS KILLS FAGS DEAD.  And perhaps most 
    seriously, it includes assorted law-enforcement officials who've 
    charged Bach on numerous occasions with onstage obscenity, and who 
    arrested him after a Springfield, Massachusetts, concert during which 
    he tried to throw a bottle back at an audience member who'd struck him 
    and instead hit an innocent bystander.  Currently, Bach - or Bas, as he 
    is often called - is on probation for three years, and his lawyers have 
    come to a substantial settlement with the woman he accidentally hit.  
    "I basically gave them everything I'd earned," he says with a shrug.
    
    It is almost miraculous, then, that with *Slave to the Grind* and the 
    opening stint for Guns n' Roses, Skid Row is showing genuine signs of 
    growth, heavy-metal style.  Whether it's because of all the heat the 
    band has taken, or in spite of it, Skid Row actually seems to be on the 
    verge of turning into the great hard-rock band its members so 
    desperately want to be.  Theirs may be a goofy sort of greatness, but 
    it is a greatness nonetheless.
    
    
    Two days after the Cost Mesa concert, the members of Skid Row are in 
    Chicago.  The last time they were here, they discovered that their show 
    with Guns n' Roses had been canceled in the wake of the much-publicized 
    riot in St. Louis.  This time around, Skid Row is shooting some 
    performance footage for a video of "Slave to the Grind," the second 
    single from the new album.  Mostly, however, the group and its 
    dedicated manager Scott McGhee - a former professional-football player 
    and the brother of Bon Jovi manager Doc McGhee - are hanging out in a 
    huge ware house down the road from the meeting hall of Local 100 of the 
    Beef Boners and Sausage Makers Union, awaiting instructions from a 
    local video-production company.
    
    In between shots, the band and McGhee amuse themselves by engaging in a 
    charming little exercise called Do You Mind If I Do *This* All Day 
    Long?  The game is quite simple:  One band member repeatedly violates 
    the personal space of another in some horrifically annoying way, all 
    the time chanting the phrase "Do you mind if I do *this* all day long?"  
    A particularly popular violation is the Ear F(ck, in which a finger is 
    thrust into the aural cavity of the victim.  "Anything to pass some 
    f(ckin' time dude," says guitarist Scotti Hill.
    
    There are other activities, like that beloved band pastime of ragging 
    on the drummer, which Rob Affuso handles with impressive grace.  Then 
    there's Stump the Manager, in which Sabo tries to catch McGhee on 
    toughies like "What's our royalty rate in Malaysia?"  Finally, there's 
    that old favorite of come up with vivid nicknames of the band members' 
    "old ladies."  One Skidster who requests - nay, *demands* - anonymity 
    repeatedly refers to his own beloved as the Harvester of Sorrow, after 
    a Metallica song.
    
    The entire entourage rallies when bassist Bolan is filmed playing 
    inside a metal cage that's being flown around the warehouse by a large 
    hydraulic lift.  Bach, a twenty-three-year-old who is very much in 
    tough with the child within, looks at his band mate playing behind bars 
    and shouts:  "This is so cool!  This is so *f(ckin'* cool.  Let me in 
    there."  Later, the thrill is gone, and he entertains himself by 
    smoking a few in a nearby Winnebago, searching local erotic shops for a 
    pair of rubber pants like the ones he left in California, and ripping 
    the head off a Vanilla Ice doll.
    
    As the shoot drags on, there is also plenty of time for sober - or 
    mostly sober - reflection on where Skid Row comes from and where it 
    wants to go.
    
    Founding members Bolan and Sabo come from the Jersey Shore; Snake, in 
    fact, grew up just blocks away from Jon Bon Jovi, in Sayreville.  The 
    two met sometime in the mid-Eighties, at the Garden State Music Store, 
    where Sabo was punching a clock.  Snake remembers Rachel coming into 
    the store to buy strings:  "He used to come in all the time, and he 
    just had this *aura* or whatever you call it, about him."
    
    Instead of telling Bolan to take his aura and get the hell out of the 
    store, the friendly Sabo developed a rapport with the bassist.  At the 
    time, Rachel - whose first name is real, his parents' tribute to a 
    Portuguese grandfather of the same name, and whose last name is his own 
    tribute to Marc Bolan of T. Rex, and early hero - was playing with a 
    club band called Godsend, which also featured Scotti Hill.  Bolan had 
    been writing songs on his own for a year, but in Snake - so nicknamed 
    in part for the Frank Zappa film *Baby Snakes*, as well as some 
    best-unmentioned bodily hair irregularities - he found a collaborator.
    
    "Something just snapped in my head," says Bolan.  "It was like 'Wow, we 
    can actually do something *good* together.'  And from there, you know, 
    it was basically a matter of finding the right other people to do it 
    with."
    
    The first version of the group came together in 1986.  "We thought up 
    the name when we were driving down the Garden State Parkway," Sabo 
    recalls.  "We were on our way to practice, trying to think of what to 
    call ourselves, and we saw tire marks on the road from an accident.  I 
    think I said, 'Skid Marks,' and Rachel said, 'Skid Row.'"  That name 
    was better than the others they considered.  "For a while we thought of 
    calling ourselves Darkness, after an Aerosmith song," says Sabo.  "can 
    you imagine calling ourselves Darkness?  Why not just go all the way 
    and call ourselves *Dorkness*, you know?"
    
    Within a matter of weeks, they recruited Hill and Affuso.  Guitarist 
    Hill had moved from Middletown, New York, to play on the Jersey Shore 
    scene, while Affuso was a New York University graduate from Wallkill, 
    New York, who'd played drums with a Rush tribute band called Minstrel.
    
    Finding the right singer proved more of a struggle.  The person 
    initially enlisted for the job wasn't as committed as the band wanted.  
    But the need for a replacement took on new urgency when - through the 
    intervention of Jon Bon Jovi - heavyweight metal manager Doc McGhee 
    expressed an interest in working with the group but insisted they 
    needed a different vocalist.  The band members spent nearly eight 
    months running its own seemingly fruitless star search.  They already 
    had most of the songs that would end up on their debut album, including 
    such state-of-the-charts hard rockers as "Youth Gone Wild," "18 and 
    Life" and the pull-out-your-lighter ladies' choice "I Remember You."
    
    "We had the songs," says Bolan.  "We just needed somebody who could 
    sing them."  In their frustration, they even formed an informal group 
    to blow off steam by playing Ramones and Sex Pistols covers.  They 
    called the band This Blows.
    
    And then came Sebastian.
    
    
    Sebastian Bierk was born in the Bahamas.  He grew up there, as well as 
    in Humboldt County, California, and Peterborough, Ontario.  There, he 
    was a self-described "straight-A bully" at an exclusive private school 
    also attended by Prince Andrew ("He was a f(cking a((hole." the singer 
    recalls fondly of the royal).  Sebastian's father, David Bierk - an 
    accomplished painter and successful gallery founder who created the 
    *Slave to the Grind* cover - recalls that his song was "a pretty 
    normal, smart, creative, sensitive, sweet kid."
    
    But around eighth grade, Bierk continues, "the rock * roll think *hit* 
    him, and it kind of took over.  It wasn't like he wanted to do it.  It 
    was like he *had* to do it."  Bierk remembers telling his song that if 
    he wanted to be a professional musician, he should go to Juilliard to 
    study:  "He told me, 'Dad, that's *not* the way it works'."
    
    And so it was that at the age of fifteen, Sebastian - named after John 
    Sebastian, of the Lovin' Spoonful - moved on his own to Toronto.  He 
    changed his name to Bach, he says, because Bierk rhymed with jerk and 
    because it had recently been the 300th birthday of Johann Sebastian 
    Bach.  "I figured I could get free press every time he had a birthday," 
    he says.
    
    Taking advantage of the fact that, at six feet three, he looked older 
    than he actually was, Bach began sneaking into clubs and singing with 
    bands.  Then, at a jam session following the wedding of a rock 
    photographer, Back was noticed by a guest, David Feld, who was an 
    acquaintance of Skid Row's (and who is now an A&R representative for 
    the band's label, Atlantic).  Feld told the band about Bach.  Soon, 
    tapes were exchanged, and a plane ticket was sent to bring Sebastian 
    from the Great White North to the Garden State.
    
    After picking Bach up at the airport, the band headed to a seedy club 
    called Mingles, in South Amboy.  "That night we got sh(t-faced and 
    decided to jam," Sabo recalls.  "We had so much fun onstage together.  
    It was a mess, but it was great.  Then on the way out, we walked up the 
    stairs and somebody called Bas 'faggot', so he just started swinging.   
    We'd just met the guy, and all of the sudden we're in our first 
    fistfight.  It was like *instant* bonding."
    
    
    In a band of equals, Bach soon became more equal.  He is, as Sabo has 
    put it, both the beauty and the beast.  These days, one more often sees 
    the beauty.  Even within the competitive frontman category, Bach is 
    more than just another pretty face.  He sings like a dream, and though 
    he only weights 145 pounds, he is capable of inflicting serious harm.  
    "He'd surprise you," says his bodyguard, Val Bichekas.  "When the guy's 
    pissed, he's like a f(cking gladiator."
    
    Of course, having such a strong frontman not only helps sell a group to 
    the public, it also can cause plenty of tension within the band.  
    Still, all the members of Skid Row insist they have no problem with 
    Sebastian's prominence.  "Obviously, Bas is up front for a reason," 
    says Sabo.  "He's good at being up there.  It's like he was born to be 
    there or something."
    
    Once Bach was enlisted, the group formalized its deal with McGhee 
    Entertainment.  As Bolan says, "I still remember when we were over at 
    Jon's talking with Doc, and he says, 'And when you're signed with me,' 
    and I'm looking at Snake, and he's freaking out 'cause it hit us that 
    this thing is *really* going to happen."
    
    The band signed with Atlantic after finding a devoted fan in A&R man 
    Jason Flom.  "They just blew me away," he recalls.  "I felt like I was 
    having a religious experience,"  It wasn't long before lots of other 
    people shared Flom's feeling for Skid Row.  But the band also had lots 
    of help along the way.  "We're definitely aware that there was a large 
    element of luck in our story", says drummer Affuso.  "We're good, but 
    there are a lot of good bands that never get a break."
    
    Skid Row got plenty of breaks:  Atlantic got behind the debut album and 
    confidently released a strong initial shipment of 150,000 copies.  With 
    the support of Doc McGhee and Jon Bon Jovi, Skid Row was tapped for the 
    highly desirable gig of opening up for Bon Jovi on the *New Jersey* 
    tour, both here and abroad.  MTV jumped on the band's first video, for 
    "Youth Gone Wild," and has supported the group ever since.
    
    But with the good luck came the controversies.  While the 
    bottle-throwing incident most directly threatened the future of Skid 
    Row, Bach's public criticism of Jon Bon Jovi had the potential for 
    being extremely explosive - especially since the members of the two 
    bands had been friends and their business affairs were being handled by 
    brothers under the same management umbrella.
    
    In return for his early and obviously key support of the band in its 
    developmental stages, the business-savvy Bon Jovi got the lion's share 
    of the group's publishing income.  (Bon Jovi guitarist Richie Sambora, 
    who also participated in the profits, gave up his claim to the Skid Row 
    publishing money early one - a move that Snake describes as "very 
    classy".)
    
    When Skid Row finally got off the road and took a look at its royalty 
    statements, Bach started talking to the press about the problem.  Even 
    Sabo, the band member closest to Bon Jovi, says that Sebastian was not 
    out of line:  "Listen, Bas has his own way of expressing himself, but 
    it wasn't like he was saying things the rest of us hadn't felt."  Bo 
    Jovi himself sounded philosophical when asked about the tensions by RIP 
    magazine:  "How many days in your life do you have to hear, 'You're 
    only there because Jon put you there'"  How many times can you have 
    that beaten in your head?  No matter who you are, you're gonna turn 
    around and say 'F(ck him.' It's only human nature."
    
    Today, a state of *glasnost* exists between the camps.  "Me and Jonny 
    have had some great times together," says Sabo.  "So has Jonny and 
    everybody in the band, including Bas.  But we hit a rough spot.  A 
    *really* rough spot.  But things are a lot better."
    
    Not long ago, a deal was cut that in effect makes Bon Jovi the group's 
    copublisher.  "We did the best we could in the situation," says Scott 
    McGhee.  "And I think it worked out great."
    
    A more common problem was how to follow up such a successful debut.  
    Veteran metal producer Michael Wagener, who was at the helm for the 
    first album, was again enlisted for *Slave to the Grind*.  The band 
    members also decided to "have some fun," says Sabo.  Instead of 
    recording in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, where they made *Skid Row*, they 
    worked in two capitals of distraction, Fort Lauderdale and Los Angeles.  
    "And we have an appetite for distraction," Bolan notes.
    
    Of course, it all worked out fine.  "I thought this album would enter 
    the charts at like *Number 100* not Number One," says Bach, who 
    remembers hearing the news that his band had knocked N.W.A out of the 
    top spot while en route to a gig at the Philadelphia Spectrum.  "I 
    felt...strange," he says.  "I felt like I was walking a f(ckin' 
    tightrope or something."
    
    
    "Here we are in the land of the crossed arms," says Bolan, as he makes 
    his way through the backstage entrance of the Long Angles Forum.
    
    The Harvester of Sorrow is present.  So, too are Skid Row's other 
    significant others, a rather attractive bunch whom the boys in the band 
    actually seem altogether thrilled to see.  The members of Skid Row seem 
    fully domesticated in this atmosphere, as befits a bunch of upwardly 
    mobile guys who've recently bought houses in New Jersey.  Bach is 
    accompanied not only by his long time girlfriend Maria, but also by his 
    three-year-old son Paris, who was born on his father's twentieth 
    birthday and who existence only recently became publish knowledge.  
    Asked if such a revelation could hurt his image as an available 
    heavy-metal stud, the proud papa says, "Who the *f(ck* cares!"
    
    The group is back in California for a series of shows that will bring 
    an end to the American leg of its tour with Guns n' Roses.  The tour 
    has been a thrill, the band members say, not only because they've been 
    treated well by the audience, and by the Gunners, but also because it's 
    been, in the worlds of Bolan, "a blast to be out on the road with a 
    bunch of guys our own age."
    
    Other than a sense of nervousness about facing what historically is a 
    hard-to-impress L.A. audience, the atmosphere backstage seems like some 
    wonderfully delayed adolescent dreamscape.  Beautiful young women and 
    assorted industry types wander around freely, as do a couple of the 
    Gunner's pet dogs.
    
    During the Forum shows, Billy Idol, Cher, Lenny Kravitz, Johnny Depp 
    and other dignitaries drop by to pay their respects.  The two bands mix 
    things up in the Jam Room, with Bach joining some of the Gunners for 
    wonderfully loose workouts on "Whole Lotta Love" and "Suffragette 
    City."
    
    Skid Row noshes in its dressing room and checks out the evening news 
    that's filled with details of the Moscow summit and Pee-wee Herman's 
    recent bust.  Most of the band seems more interested in the latter 
    story, but Sabo watches as Dan Rather addresses the former.  
    "Apparently, it's a real power summit," Sabo says with a wide grin.  
    "Supposedly, Hulk Hogan is there."  Across the hall, Bach is doing his 
    regular preshow vocal warmup, a ritual that finds him singing 
    everything from Seals and Crofts's "Summer Breeze" to Judas Priest's 
    "Beyond the Realms of Death."
    
    Bach and the band are in peak form when they hit the stage.  After the 
    Beastie Boys' "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (to Party)," a sort of 
    musical call to arms, blasts from the PA, Skid Row delivers and almost 
    punkish, no-frills set that concentrates on the prime rockers from 
    both albums, with "I Remember You" the only ballad in the bunch.  At 
    times, Bach seems almost possessed by some hard-rock spirit, his eyes 
    taking on a *Village of the Damned* glaze.  Before launching into the 
    crowd-pleasing anthem "18 and Life," Bas launches into some topical 
    commentary.  "Did you hear about Pee-wee Herman?" he asks the cheering 
    crowd in the packed arena.  "They caught him jerking off in this 
    theater.  And they say rock & roll corrupts.  I could jerk off in a 
    movie theater, and you people would f(ckin' *love* it, wouldn't you?"
    
    Based on the reaction, he's apparently correct.
    
    The emotional highlight of the Forum shows comes after the second 
    night, when Sebastian brings out Paris for one of the encores.  The 
    chip off the hard-rock block - wearing a tiny Skid Row jacket - runs 
    straight for the mike.  In the end, despite their fears, the members of 
    Skid Row are received by the Forum crowd like the headliners they soon 
    will be.
    
    Later, Bach - still buzzed from the show and offering his hand slaps 
    from hell to various passerby - takes time in a bathroom near the Guns 
    n' Roses dressing area to chat.  He's asked about the T-shirt he wore 
    that suggested the extermination of homosexuals.  "People hand me 
    shirts all the time," he says.  "I didn't realize then that anybody 
    gave a sh(t about what it says on my chest.  Now I know.  I'm sorry.  
    But the truth is that I *don't* understand homosexuality - I just don't 
    get it.  But that's me.  I don't f(ckin' hate anyone for what they do 
    at all."
    
    As for the squabble with Bon Jovi, Bach says, "We've talked, and we 
    realize that if you want to punch someone out, you don't f(ckin' say it 
    to the press".  He also expresses regret about the bottle incident.  
    "Listen, it made me think," he says, "because you hurt someone you love 
    - because I f(ckin' love anyone who listens to our music and enjoys it, 
    and apparently the girl was a fan of ours.  I never want to hurt anyone 
    like that again.  But when some a((hole throws a bottle at my head, 
    it's a different story."
    
    And though he admits he got into a squabble as recently as two nights 
    before, and has trashed a dressing room since then, Bach says he's 
    trying to control his temper:  "I've been told, 'If you get busted for 
    f(ckin' fighting one more time, anywhere in the United States, you go 
    directly to jail.  You do not collect $2 million.' So f(ck that sh(t."  
    That's easier said than done.  "See, I was always a bully," he says.  
    "Why?  Because I'm *big*.  Because it was *easy*."  Asked if he thinks 
    he's burned too many bridges with his behavior, Bach says "I guess so, 
    but I really won't know until I try to cross back on them."
    
    At times, it almost sounds like Bach is maturing, if not mellowing.  
    Lately, he's even made a concerted effort not to put down other musical 
    acts, succeeding except for the occasional Nelson crack - and this from 
    a man who used to expound, at great length, on his hatred for "New Kids 
    on My C(ck."  "Well, I'm not trying to *mature*," he says.  "I mean, I 
    didn't take as much drugs a few years ago as I do now, and that's the 
    truth motherf(cker.  I don't try to do *anything* except for f(ckin' 
    singing.  That's what I've figured out is the best part of what I do.  
    And I'm in this for twenty years - if I can do that I'll die a happy 
    man."
    
    Bach even has an idea bout how to turn his frontman role into a family 
    business - an idea he shares with great reluctance.  According to his 
    plan, he will secretly relinquish his job to Paris when he turns forty.  
    "I'll put my kid out front on the mike," he says.  "That way people 
    will look at him and say, 'Hey, man, Sebastian f(cking worked out a 
    *lot* over the summer, *didn't* he?
    
    "Not *that's* rock & roll," says Sebastian Bach, as he breaks out into 
    the biggest laugh of all.

         FAST FACTS:#1 in a series of five to come.....
    
    
     REAL NAME:Sebastian Philip Bierk
     NICKNAME:Bas
     BIRTHDATE:April 3,1968
     BITRHPLACE:Freeport,Bahamas
     HEIGHT:6'3"
     WEIGHT:145 lbs.
     MARITAL STATUS: Single. I'm to young to get married, I'm 23. But when
     I do, I'm not going to hide it from anybody and live a lie.
     RELATIONSHIPS: Sebastian shares a house with longtime girlfriend MARIA
     FIRST CONCERT:Rush
     FAVORITE BAND:Motley Crue
     FAVORITE SINGER: Rob Halford
     FAVORITE BEER: LaBatts
     LISTENS TO: King's X,Faith No More, Red Hot Chili
    Peppers,Metallica,Guns and Roses.
     PREVIOUS BANDS: HerrenVolk,Madame X, VO5,Kid Wikkid
     FAVORITE TV SHOW: SCTV
     LUCKY NUMBER: 4
     FOOD PREFERENCE: Mexican
     SIBLINGS: Sister , DYLAN, and Bother , ZAKK
     PREVIOUS OCCUPATION: Model for a hair salon
     ANCESTRY: Norwegian-American on his dad's side and Canadian-American
    on his mom's side.(He also has North American-Indian blood)
     EDUCATION:Bas went a private school for grades seven and nine(He
    skipped eighth), then went to school called PCVS for a year before
    dropping out.
     HATES: Conceit, pretension and people that have preconceived notions
    about me when they meet me--nothing annoys him more.
     SELF-DESCRIPTION: "Obcessed,volatile,young,insatiable and extremist"
     BAD HABITS:" I have too many vices and not enough time"
     HAIR TIPS:Bas believes shampoo "strips your hair"--he only washes it
    once every four days and just wets in in the shower in between. "The
    big misconception is if you trim it, it gets longer. I never trim it."
     FACT: Sebastian and Maria have a three year old son named Paris
    Francis. Born in Toronto on April 4, 1988, Paris sometimes accompanies
     Sebastian on the road and is fond of the Skid Row track "Wasted Time."
     "I think you have a responsibility when you have a child." People say
    kids can't have kids, nut I did. I love him, I love music, and you can
    do both."
     ADVICE TO FUTURE MUSICAINS: "Quit school,quit your job, move to a big
    city, meet other musicians,practice your instrument, and you will make
    it."
    
    
                       Frizkid
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    Guess what kiddies? 
    
            Fast Facts #2 in a series of five...........
    
       FULL NAME:David Michael Sabo
       NICKNAME:Snake
       BIRTHDATE:September 16,1964
       BIRTHPLACE:Perth Amboy,New Jersey
       HEIGHT:5'9"1/2
       WEIGHT:138 lbs.
       EYE COLOR:Green
       CARS: Snake drives a "peice of sh.t silver and black Jeep.
       FAVORITE SPORTS TEAMS: Mets,Jets and Knicks
       PARENTS:Snake's father resides in Florida, where he's lived for 27
    years.  Dave was raised by his mother "Mama Snake," Dorothy Sabo.
       SIBLINGS:Dave has four older brothers.
       MUSICAL INFLUENCES:"I was raised on Kiss,Judas Preist,Iron
    Maiden,Ozzy,Van Halen,Black Sabbath,Moterhead,the Stones,Hendrix, and
    Motown. 
       FAVE BANDS:Aerosmith,Metallica,Motley Crue,Faith No More,Kiss,Guns
    and Roses,Van Halen
       LUCKY NUMBER:13
       FAVE FOOD:Junk food.."Burritos,tacos,and Mr. D's chili dogs"
       PERSONAL GOALS:"Every so often, I'll be watching MTV and think I'd
    love to write with that person...I'd love to write something with the
    guys from GnR.  I'd like to write with anybody who could make me a
    better songwriter,teach me new things. I have an insatiable thrist for
    more input, to get new ideas, be more well-rounded."
       SELF-DESCRIPTION: "I'm the worrier. It's tough to objective when
    your talking about yourself, but I'm definitely the most level headed. 
    I can honestly say that, when it comes to people going in opposite
    directions, I'm the guy who can bring it together. Who finds the common
    ground. That is my stong point. The bad point is that I'm the worrier.
    That's where the give and take comes in. I worry about what going to
    happen tommorrow and Sebastian doesn't give a sh.t."
    
                                Frizkid
    

    Please Friz, can we stop here?!?

    
    
    	RE: .301
    
    	NOT... I'm curious to know so pffth! (8
    
    	tigg~~~

    Yeah !!!
    
    Keep it up Friz!  I'm really interested to see the rest.
    
    lrip'

    	Skid Row should have some "B" side singles coming out soon.
    	My friend did the enginnering and producing work on them,
    	and just recieved the Master copies of the work.
    
    	Dave

SEBs previoes band was Kid Wikkid ??

I wonder if thats the same band that comes thru town here once in
a while...  They are AWESOME!

jc

    jc, 
    
         I doubt it. Just like there is a Storm here in town and now I 
    
         hear a Storm song on the radio. Not the same band at all!!!!!

    Here we go again....
    
                FAST FACTS #3 in a series of 5.
    
     NAME:Rachel Bolan
     REAL FIRST NAME:James
     NICKNAME:"I don't have one really....The band just calls me Rach."
     BIRTHDATE:February 9, 1966
     BIRTHPLACE: Point Pleasant, New Jersey
     HEIGHT: 5' 9"
     WEIGHT: 125 lbs
     CURRENT HOME: "A place in New Jersey called Alantic Highland.  It's a
    cool place to live. It's quite near New York, but far enough away for
    me to retain my sanity."
     SELF-DESCRIPTION: "Laid-back, volatile and sometimes serious."
     PROUDEST CARREER MOMENT THUS FAR: "Playing Gaints Stadium in front on
    73,000 people, in our home town, and playing at the Milton Keynes Bowl. 
    We thought we were gonna get bottles of piss thrown at us, but everyone
    seemed to dig it, and it freaked us out."
     FAVORITE FEMALE ATTRIBUTES: "Long legs, long curly hair, full lips and
    perfect teeth."
     HOBBIES: Reptile collecting, car racing and Nintendo games.
     ANCESTRY: Portuguese and English
     FAMILY: Rachel is the youngest of four kids--he has a brother Richie,
    and two sisters Lorraine and Joanne. His parents are Aida and Hubert.
     FAVORITE TV SHOWS: Miami Vice,Married....With Children and The
    Simpsons.
     SHOE SIZE: 9
     CHILDHOOD MEMORIES: "I was pretty rambunctious and a bit of a
    pyromaniac. I hated school with a passion."
     CARS: "At the moment, I have a blck Toyota MR2 and a Chevy Blazer.
    After our tour, I'd like to get something a little faster, something a
    little worse on the gas."
     RELATIONSHIPS: Rachel is seeing Roxxi, whom he met six years ago at a
    Halloween party.
     FAVORITE BANDS: Kiss,the Sex Pistols,T-Rex,the Ramones, and the
    Plasmatics.
     PERSONAL IDOL: Gene Simmons
     FAVORITE NON-ALCOHOLIC DRINK: Iced tea
     FAVORITE FOOD: Italian
     FAVORITE COLOR: Green,black and pink.
     FAVORITE MOVIE: Repo man, and The Pope Of Greenwich Village
     LUCKY NUMBER: 13
     PETS: A Tom cat named Minx, A Persian kitten named Tiffany, two
    ferrets named Bandito and Orleans, two tarantulas, Bella and Christmas,
    an iguana named Tripzilla, a skink named Target, A Senegal chameleon
    named Dog, a Jackson Chameleon named Stump, and a king snake named,
    Magellan.
    
                            Frizkid
    
    

     Oh no.............
    
                 FAST FACTS #4 in a series of 5.
    
     FULL NAME: Robert James Affuso
     BIRTHDATE: March 1, 1963
     BIRTHPLACE: Newburgh, New York
     CHILDHOOD RESIDENCE: Walkill, New York
     HEIGHT: 5'11"
     WEIGHT: 160 lbs.
     FAMILY: Rob, son of ShariWells and Robert Affuso(they're divorced),
    has a 24 year older brother, Alan.
     MARITAL STATUS: Rob married girlfriend Gina on September 15, 1990.
     PREVIOUS BANDS: A Rush copy band called Minstrel,Sutton Thomas.
     FARORITE COLOR: Black,purple and green.
     FAVORITE FOOD: Spicy Italian, especially pasta.
     FAVORITE TV SHOW: Ols Twilight Zone, Honeymooners and Arsenio Hall.
     MUSICAL INFLUENCES: Neil Peart, AC/DC, and AEROSMITH!
     LISTENS TO: the Dan Reed Network and FASTER PUSSYCAT!
     TURN-ONS: Long legs,long hair and nice heart-shaped butts are always
    nice.
     TURN-OFFS: Loud and obnoxious people.
     CAR: Rob drives a silver 86' Nissan 300 Turbo.
     PETS: Rob has two cats, Abby and Boa. A three-legged part Lab dog
    named Lacey.
     FAVORITE PASTIMES: He likes to hang out and party with the other guys
    in the band and see bands in the area." Snake and I play softball alot"
     Rob says.
     FACT:Rob is the only member of SKID ROW who had orthodontia but got
    his teeth knocked out in a fight and had to get caps.
     PERSONAL GOALS: "I've already far exceeded the goals I had as a kid. 
    The success we've had has been so fast. I hope that SKID ROW lasts
    10,15 years, something not alot of bands can do."
    
                                Frizkid
    
    

    And to round it ALL off.........
    
                     FAST FACTS #5...The last in the series!
    
    NAME: Scotti Hill
    BIRTHDATE: May 31, 1964
    BIRTHPLACE: Manhasset, New York
    CHILDHOOD RESIDENCE: Middletown and Cold Springs, New York
    HEIGHT: 5'11"
    WEIGHT: 135 lbs.
    SIBLINGS: Scotti has three older sisters
    CAR: A 90' black Mustang GT "with a cellular phone and the bills to
    prove it!"
    FAVE FOOD: Mexican and Italian
    FAVE TV SHOW: The Simpsons and the Adams Family
    FAVE BAND: King's X
    FAVE SONG: AC/DC...Beating around the bush and KISS' Black Diamond.
    TOOTHPASTE PREFERENCE?:The kind that burns my mouth, so it feels like
    it's working, usaully Colgate....
    QUOTE:(On SKID ROW'S AMAZING SUCCESS)
      "No way can I believe it, man. Cause when I come home, I walk down
    the street in my neighborhood, you know? And people don't know who I
    am. I mean, I don't advertise it, either. I mean, I don't go around
    wearing a Skid Row this and Skid Row that. If I goto the mall, I put my
    hair in a ponytail or something.  Sometimes when I'm home, I just get
    so wrapped up in being home, I forget that there's people around that
    know who I am, and I'll just go walking around not thinking about it
    and somebody will freak out, you know? It's just really weird.  But as
    far everything that's happenedin the past couple years, it's amazing. 
    I sit back and look at all the stuff I've done and I'll the different
    places I've lived, and borrowed money for food and stuff like that,
    it's like it's not even happening. It's like a DREAM."
    FIRST CONCERT:Kiss at the Nassau Coliseum in 1977.
    
                          Frizkid
    

    hey that's pretty neat....kingsX is my fave band and that Kiss concert
    was my first too!

    
    Apparently Skid Row is opening up for Metallica on their new tour....
    
    
    
    
    Chris, who wanted somebody else

    
    You'd better be joking!
    
    Whilst I'm here, Skid Row are touring the UK over the next couple of
    months with Love/Hate.
    
    Flip

    
    Not joking.... I'm not sure about the whole 'Tallica tour, but
    definetly a few dates.... probably cause they were hagin' together for
    a while.... Ulrich beat a boasting Bach in tennis (no suprise)
    
    
    
    
    Chris/HMBP

    
    Skid Row used to be a thrash band. 

    and Pantera!

    Say who?

    
    
    		Bach !

    -1
    
    Excactly!

	Like I just entered in the Metallica note....(about Metallica)

	Both of Skid Row's releases contain extra songs on the CD's that
	the tapes do not contain.  Since a get mostly tapes, because of
	my car, a don't get to hear the extra songs.  How are they?
	Any good?


			I gotta get a CD player for my car.... 8)
						-Seth

    -1
    
    Sethy the Pooh...and Tigga~~ too!

	re:-1


	I was called that a lot as a kid...

	Either Sethypooh, Sethy the Pooh, or Pooh bear.... 8)

	The question is how did you know?  That is weird.....


							-Seth

    Hey...
    
    The HM_defunct noter Miz Carla Blazek didn't call me the Psychic Slut
    for nothing!  8^)

re:-1

 Really Buck, how did you know that I was called that as a little one?


							-Seth

    The Cd's of Skid Row don't contain extra tracks on either album.
       So your not missing a thing..
    
     The only extra track I can think of is the song that replaced
       GET THE F**K OUT on the edited version of STTG.
    
             I've heard it and it's a cool song but nothing like GTFO!
    
             Frizkid
    

	Me thinks me best check my sources before me open me big mouth.. 8)


							-Seth

    I don't know of any local dates yet but Skid Row is getting ready to
    start their world tour.  G+R tour ended this week so Soundgarden
    will be the opening act for Soundgarden.
    
    Huey

    
    
    	Wow!  Opening for themselves!  That's quite a treat!  =)
    

    Two, two, TWO Soundgarden shows in one!  ;^)
    
    Frizpose and I are going to see the Skid/Soundgarden show on the 25th
    of this month, I'm looking forward to it.  You can count on seeing
    reviews of them when we're back!
    
    gh

    Soundgarden AND Pantera are going to open the SKID show.....
    
                 Frizkid
    

    Skid Row tonight....Talk about a Frizkid PSYCHED!!!!!
                          
                     Frizkid
    

    Allright!  Having just attended a cool concert just a few short hours
    ago, it's time for the Gregster to make his completely biased review of
    the show!  The timing of this is especially advantageous, since the
    Frizkid, who also attended, has taken the day off and can't get his
    propaganda in first to bias your little minds! ;^)

    Ok, last night was the Skid Row / Soundgarden / Pantara show at
    McNichols Arena (Big Mac, for you Colorado types).  I'll review the
    bands in the order they played:

    First up was Pantara.  Bottom line: They played reasonably well, but I
    wasn't impressed.  We got there about halfway through their set due to
    long lines to get in the door.  

    I *was* impressed with a thrash band that would allow their sound to be
    set up at a moderate volume level.  It was much lower in volume then
    either of the other two bands and I, for one, appreciated it more that
    way.

    We heard them play five or six songs and I like one of them real well,
    one of them a little, and thought the rest sounded like uninspired
    filler material.  I sort of liked the guitar players sound, but it got
    annoying real fast.  I looked at the stage and figured out
    why...RANDALL AMPS, I hate those things, they suck!  The singer was
    very strange looking.  I swear he looked and acted like Marky Mark! 
    All he needed to do to complete the picture was drop his bands and show
    off his underwear.  What a geek... 

    His voice wasn't too bad for his material, but his shaved head looked
    kinda outta place (is this like a Scott Ian cloning attempt or what?)
    and his stupid stocking cap that he kept taking on and off looked even
    worse.  My advice?  I didn't really mind the shaved head, but keep the
    stocking cap for the cold weather outside, it doesn't make good stage
    wear.  

    Next up was Soundgarden.  Bottom line:  Even though they were kind of
    sloppy and had some out of place riffs and stuff, I still liked 'em. 
    Of course, I *might* have been the only Skid Row fan there that had
    ever actually *heard* any of Soundgarden's material (other then
    "Outshined").

    I thought they had an interesting sound.  The drummer was especially
    talented, I really liked his style!  The singers voice sounded kind of
    fried, he couldn't seem to get much power behind the vocals and the
    music suffered as a result.  The bass player acted totally weird, I
    couldn't get into his stage act at all.

    I liked the guitarist's tone a lot, very fat and creamy.  He did hit a
    lot of what I considered "clam" notes and wasn't always in tune, but I
    don't mind that kind of thing.  Lets me know a real person is up there
    playing.  He didn't try to play stuff that he couldn't do either (more
    on this later).

    Kind of bugged me that they didn't have any of their amps visible
    onstage, they were hidden behind a drop cloth (I suspect that they
    don't cart a stadium "appearance" set of gear around, so they don't
    keep it onstage.  Now that's just from a curious musicians point of
    view, I actually liked the streamlined stage setup without the clutter
    of amps and stuff all around.

    I think the guy was using the Peavey VTM series guitar heads, because
    when their stuff was being torn down, a roadie wheeled out a rack with
    three of four Peavey heads in it.  I was a pretty good ways away and
    couldn't see them good enough to tell exactly what they were.  Noter
    Jerry White told me a long time ago that those got a cool sound, but
    I'd never heard one that did myself.  Guess it's all how you set 'em
    up...

    Ok finally the headliners Skid Row came out.  Bottom line:  I liked 'em
    a lot, despite several annoying little things.

    The Skids opened up with "Slave To The Grind" and kept up a fast-paced
    show up until the encores, which were poorly planned and too long
    between.  One encore was "I Remember You" and they actually STOPPED the
    song in the middle, seemed like for about a minute, for them to change
    instruments when they changed from the acoustic part to the electric
    part.  That really bugged me.

    Sebastian's voice sounded much rougher then I expected.  Sounds like
    he's been stressing it out a lot.  By the fourth song, he was noticeably
    hoarse.  He still managed to sing pretty well even so.

    I thought the guitar tone used by both players was strange too.  They
    blended well, but it was just kind of wimpy sounding.  I couldn't see
    what kind of amp rigs they were using, obviously some sort of mega
    compressed high gain something.  They were a lot low in the mix at a
    lot of points in the show too.  One thing that kind of surprised me was
    that they were both a little sloppy with their solos.  They'd go for
    the fast runs on the albums and just not be able to pull 'em off, they
    kind of slur through them, skipping notes and stuff.  I don't really
    care for the mentality that says "play it exactly like the record even
    if you sound sloppy doing it".  Now if sloppy is your style, that's
    different.  It's definitely not the sound they were going for and it
    bothered me the way it came off.

    These were all minor things though, I think the thing that bothered me
    the most was this SICK really low frequency weirdness in the sound
    system!  It was clearly coming from the kick drums and I'm not sure
    what it was, some sort of feedback, or bad echo in the room or
    something.  Anyway, it hurt my ears (and I was wearing earplugs!) and
    made a lot of the music sound cluttered and off time.  Shame, because I
    think they played tighter then they sounded because of it.

    As far as stage presence, they were quite good at their posing and they
    had a lot of nice pyro stuff.  The stage setup was cool and their
    lighting show was excellent!  I do think that Sebastian has a physique
    that doesn't lend itself to tight spandex pants with short legs,
    though.  They made him look like a big skinny geek (IMHO) by
    accentuating the fact that his hips and legs are disportionately thin
    compared to his upper body.  Whatever, it's not MY bod, he can dress as
    he feels comfortable...

    Interesting things:

    Sebastian saying "Thank you all so f*cking much, Denver.  I wish I
    could f*ck every one of you"  (I was thinking, "My, what a *treat*...")

    Friz actually carrying his OWN wallet!

    The long *strange* version of "Train Kept A Rollin" done during the
    first Skid Row encore, with Chris Cornell from Soundgarden and Marky
    Mark from Pantara also singing (and the bass player from Pantara also
    sitting it).  VERY odd!

    Special thanks go to Allen Frisby and Vicki, who picked me up at work,
    drove me to the show in Denver, and went WAY out of their way to take
    me all the way home to Woodland Park at 2:00am because my car is
    broken.  That was *really* nice and saved me a lot of headaches! 
    Thanks!!!

    gh

    
    
    Friz actually carried his own wallet!? ya'gotta be kiddin me... ;')

    Sebastian Bach was married to Maria(the mother of his son) yesterday.
     The honeymoon was put off until the end of the tour....
    
            Friz
    

    re: -1
    
    Maria who?  Anyone famous?
    

    No...The only claim to fame she has is being married to Sebastian. 8)
     She's been going out with him for along time now....
    
               Friz
    

    
    
    Well, its nice he would marry the mother of his son 8^/.
    
                                                                mike
    

    Yes....I think it's better than marrying the uncle of his daughter's
    son. 8)
    
          Friz
    

    
    
     Yeah, or the uncle of his friends cousin that was a blood relative
    of his sister's. 8^0.
                             mike
    

    I saw a picture of them together in a Mag_From_Hell,and....yes.
    I must agree that she has a pair of Big_Eyes and an even wider
    mouth.She looks like a rather wild little Dirty_Blonde.
    
       Crazy_Visual_Discription_Only_Al

    Yea...Quite the sleazy looking dity isn't she! 
           Wonder what kinda of spot on the couch she could make? 8))
    
           Friz
    

    Guys,I've got a New_Couch.
    I stole it from my Shrink.I've been spendin most of my time on it
    and I've become quite Fond of it.
    
    
           Crazy_It's_Missin_Some_Thin_Tho_Al

    Crazy Al: Since you have a new one do you need me to spot in for ya?
    
            Friz
    

RE: Marrying mother of his child.

Could be worse, Mike and Greg.  He could be marrying the mother of YOUR 
child instead.  Boy, I can imagine Mrs House or Mrs Heiser walking
down the isle to meet Sebastian at the end of the 'Row.  I can really see
their faces light up with delight.  8*)

Jmystr

    Huh?  I don't understand how Mikey and I got dragged into this, neither
    of us said anything about Seb's wife.
    
    ???
    
    gh

    Mikey, your wife won "The Lottery"? I read that story, I guess instead
    of being stoned to death they made her marry you. 
    
    
    8^)

Greg, you like the attention, and you know it!  8*)

Jmystr

    Perhaps, but the confusion kind of made up for it.
    
    gh

    I just heard the SR version of Little Wing and Jimi must be spinning
    like a bloody top in his grave.The music is ok,the vocals are terrible.
    
    
                                             IMHO as ever
    
                                                 Staynz

    
    Ahhh ya nancy blouse... whatta you know!?
    
    

Actually, I think the vocals are the only thing improved over the original
version.  Jimi was a great axman, but NOT a great singer.

I really like this whole album, short as it is.  BTW, for Judas Priest fans, 
they also do a cover of Delivering the Goods, live, with Rob Halford sharing
the vocals.



Rob

    Oh Rob, puh-leeze ... the only thing worse than the totally
    un-inspired, robot-like guitar work on SR's Lil Wing is the
    over emoted, winey vocals of Bas...
    
    Mega-retch

  
    > Jimi was a great axman, but NOT a great singer.
   
    BLASPHEMY!!!!!
        

    Chris E..........yir talking shite!Naebody calls me a big nancy blouse
    etc 8)
    
    Buck........agreed on the singing part!
    
    
                                                 Staynz
                                                    

    While we're being blasphemous, I'm only impressed with his guitar work
    on about a dozen or so tunes.  He's was too stoned to be any good on
    the rest.

    
    Bite your tongue, heathen! :-)
    
    Jimi was a guitar god and would still be today if he were alive.
    

    He makes a bleedin` racket,imo.
    

    
    
    
    ACCK! SR's version is much better... 

    
    Both versions blow chunks in a big way.
    
    
    

 >   Both versions blow chunks in a big way.
    
    NOT!!!!!!!!!
    
    Chris, have you ever heard Kirk Hammet play it?  I have.
    
    |KS|
    
    

    
    No I haven't. Where did you hear it.
    
    

    Chris, I heard it at a Metallca show at Lake Compounce in CT.  It was
    part of his solo (he didn't play the whole song).   I have it on tape
    because I snuck a microcassete recorder into the show!  (Sshhhh!)
    
    |KS|
    

    
    
    HEY!! 

    |KS|,
    
    Compounce??  Cool!  Did you catch a ride on the WILDCAT coaster??
    One of my favorites ... that thing jams!

    re: Jim
    
    Hey, don't tell, DONT TELL!!!
    Actually I snuck in a camera too!  Both were in my socks at the back
    of my legs.  They even searched me and didn't find them because they
    only patted the inside and outside of my legs and didn't check the
    front and back!
    
    re: Buck
    
    Not that time, but I have before.  And at Riverside too.  I like the
    Thunderbolt better as far as mild rollercoaster rides go.
    
    |KS|
    
    
    

    
    heard the cover version these guys are doing of the old Ramones single
    'Psychotherapy' with Rachael whatshisface singing aand I was well
    impressed.It would make good driving music! ;^)
    
    
    
    						ian

    
    
    
    Anyone know when the new SR is coming out? I heard it was suppose to be
    insanely heavy and it has me curious.
    
    Whit-

    
    
    	Last I heard they were waiting to release it cuz Bas
    	has/had a major cocaine problem.....  (or something
    	like that)
    

    
    
    
    SO!! SEND OUT THE FREAKIN ALBUM!!! 
    
    

    
    
    	Yes dear, I'll call and tell them right away.  =)
    

    
    
    
    "Uuhh.. yeah, uhhh... Thank you for your cooperation."

    SKID ROW BITES!

    
    
    I'll liked the last album.. (for a little while at least).. 
    
    If the "heavier than Pantera" rumor is true about this album, then I 
    may actually really like it! 

    
    	New album coming out next month.  I forgot the name.
    

>>    	New album coming out next month.  I forgot the name.

	  skid row - subhuman race...?  grabbed this blurb out
	  of goldmine magazine... supposedly this was already
	  released in japan and is available as in import for
	  $25.00.

	  /b
  

    
    	That's the one ... thanks!!
    

    Skid Row will be playing at the Strand in Providence on March 10th.
    Tickets are $9.94 and are available at ticketshafter.
    
    
    Doug

    Picked up a copy of the new album at lunch time today on Import for
    12 quid, so I guess it's time to get that RRD43 to do something usefull
    for a change.
    
    Track listing for : Subhuman Race
    
    My Enemy
    Firesign
    Bonehead
    Beat Yourself Blind
    Eileen
    Remains To Be Seen
    Subhuman Race
    Frozen
    Into Another
    Face Against My Soul
    Medicine Jar
    Breakin' Down
    Iron Will
    
	
    Giles.
    

    
    	Could you post a review?  Thanks!!
    

    Yep, I sure will...
    
    First impressions on listening to it this afternoon....
    
    Mucho heavy.....loadsa power and those who liked the last album
    are gonna love this one.....
    
    Giles.

    
    	I listend to "Subhuman Race" again last night ... not impressed,
    	really, and definitely prefer the new Ugly Kid Joe.
    
    	I'm gonna try "Slave to the Grind" again since I know I liked
    	that at the time.
    

    Yeah, SR was a letdown. 
    
    -Tony

    
    
    	Well I got this from BMG since I forgot to send the
    	card back.......  is it worth keeping or should I ship
    	it back to them?
    

    
    	If you liked the 1st one then you probably won't like this one.
    
    	It's quite heavy ... heavier than "Slave to the Grind".  And if
    	I didn't already have it I'd offer to buy it off of you.
    

    
    
    	Hmmm....I liked the first one AND Slave to the Grind......
    	
    

    
    
      Huh..heh huh huh...You said Grind !  Huh huh ..yeah Yeah...Grind
    ...heh heh heh
    
    

Does anyone hear a funny noise???

    
    	Not sure if "funny" is the correct word.
    

    
     Yeah...huh...it should be "squishy" noise.

    
    try "farty"
    
    
    					ian

    
    RE: -1
    
     Hey, How'd you know my NickName ?  The boys and Gals over here call
    me that....As you can Smell from FAB6, I Earned that reputaation !!!
    
    /Sax_Farty_BarfBag
     

    /sax
    
    face it--you're a mess!

	Is that a gas leak?

>    /sax
    
 >   face it--you're a mess!
    
         You got that Right !  Could you spare a fellow Deccie an extra
    pair of Hanes or Fruit of Looms, I'll even settle for Ames Brand ?
    
    ;')
    
    

    
    	Why, did you "have a good time" again this morning and crap
    	yourself?
    

    
    
      hee hee hee hee !
    
    8*)
    
    

    you should change your sig from /sax to /scat

    
     RE: -1
    
     ONLY and I Mean ONLY if you'll share your kitty litter with Me, big
    boy !
    
    /Xas

    
    	Last night while watching the Detroit / St. Louis NHL game,
    I also had the Canadian Junior "Memorial Cup" game on. It is hosted
    in Peterborough Ont. Canada. home of Mr. Bach. Anyhow, I glanced
    over at the screen, and they were interviewing Bach while the game
    was on (Peterborough vs Guelph) it was pretty funny, he likes hockey
    and I guess he also sang the National anthem (sp). The hockey
    announcers were saying he did a great job singing, but I missed
    it...But I thought it was pretty cool, he'd come back to his home
    town, to sing and watch Jr. Hockey, and I was also pretty impressed
    at his hockey knowledge...
    
    	Bobby T

    
    <------ pfffttttt!!!
    
    What has he done lately???? (that was any good???)
    
    Dave