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Conference napalm::heavy_metal

Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
Notice:Rules-2.*,Directory-7.*,Roster-3.*,Garbage-99.*
Moderator:BUSY::SLABB
Created:Thu May 05 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1238
Total number of notes:65616

193.0. "Classic Metal" by HSSWS1::GREG (Your problems: Not my concern) Tue Aug 09 1988 14:39

   
    	   The notes attached to this introduction form the basis
    	of a discussion that began as a result of Mark's entry into
    	the Metalhead Roster note (which is, ostensibly, for sign-ins
    	only).  All further discussion on the matter will be handled
    	here.
    
    	-=[MOSAT]=-
    	(shifting space and time to suit my needs)
    
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Note 3.59                       Metalhead Roster                        59 of 63
HAZEL::STARR "You ain't nothin' but fine, fine, fin" 12 lines   8-AUG-1988 15:41
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Hi Mark! Welcome to the heavy metal notesfile!

You and I are going to be good friends, because I've been saying all along
that the classic stuff is the best. You'll find a lot of people in this
conference listen to a lot of newer stuff like Anthrax and Metallica, but
I prefer the older stuff like Zeppelin and Humble Pie and Cream. Credence
is also one of my all-time favorites!

Looking forward to hearing your views, etc.

cat
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ANT::SLABOUNTY "A Momentary Lapse of Reason"          8 lines   8-AUG-1988 15:56
                 -< But does it surprise me?  Nooooooooooo!! >-
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        Yup, leave it to Alan to drag the 'roster note' into a rat-
        hole.
    
        8^)
    
                                                       GTI
    
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Note 3.61                       Metalhead Roster                        61 of 63
MILVAX::RENEE "Lil' Sister"                          18 lines   9-AUG-1988 09:51
               -< A  Vote for the "Metal-Shop-Noise-Boise".... >-
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    Hi Mark!
    
    Hey, I'm exactly opposite. Don't get me wrong, those you listed,
    are classics and they are good, but how does a classic become a
    classic? They have to start somewhere, right? Don't close your mind
    off totally and stereo-type all bands as "Metal-shop-noise". I agree
    some *do* sound that way, but there are others that deserve a chance.
    I don't think the first people that listened to Zep thought they
    were good, but someone had to give them a chance. I try to buy albums
    that nobody has heard of first and judge for myself, before they
    are found popular. My friend from LA intro'd me to Guns & Roses
    before anybody out here even knew about them, and I haven't put
    the tape away yet...
    
    
    Jus' sayin' for their sake....
    
    -renee>
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MARKER::BUCKLEY "Boycott Shell Oil, Help END Aparth" 12 lines   9-AUG-1988 10:12
                         -< Even Yngwie could qualify >-
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    Hey Mark!
    
    I kinda have to agree with -Renee> in some wayz...Classic metal
    is cool (i like it), but it had to start somewhere.
    
    I think in years to come bands like Tesla, Queensryche and Metallica
    will be classic bands...Ozzy and VH are already on thier way there
    right now.
    
    Open ears, open mind is what I say
    Buck
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Note 3.63                       Metalhead Roster                        63 of 63
ANT::SLABOUNTY "A Momentary Lapse of Reason"         11 lines   9-AUG-1988 10:34
                                    -< ... >-
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        This is a recording ... this is a recording.
    
        I really hate to be a pecker, but is it even REMOTELY poss-
        ible to continue this discussion somewhere else?
    
        I'll set up a note for it and move the replies.
    
                                                       GTI
                                                    (pecker)
    

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193.1Which way am I going?CSC32::G_HOUSEHelp Me SpockTue Aug 09 1988 21:2415
    Hi, Mark!  Welcome to heavy metal notes!  I hope all the acromyns and
    such we use doesn't cause your DECtalk trouble.  I hope you enjoy
    noting here.  I didn't reply earlier because I didn't want to get
    ragged on for putting unrelated notes into the "Roster Note" (and, yes,
    Shawn, you ARE a pecker).
    
    On the classic metal (hard rock, acid rock, whatever you want to
    call it), I love the old stuff.  Hendrix, Cream, the Doors, they're
    all great!  I also love a lot of the newer music such as Metallica,
    Racer X, and Joe Satriani.  I'm not sure I prefer one over the other.
    
    Certainly some of the new bands are, as previously mentioned, headed
    for becomming classic!
    
    gh
193.2Moderators vs noters: No contestHSSWS1::GREGYour problems: Not my concernTue Aug 09 1988 22:017
    re: .1
    
    	   Watch it, Greg... Shawn may be a pecker, but he's also
    	a moderator... I stand behind my peck... uh, co-moderators.
    
    	-=[MOSAT]=-
    	(still standing behind my pecker, too)
193.3I like that old ........PAR5::C_DENOPOULOSMon Aug 15 1988 11:4811
    Classic Metal is the ultimate Metal.  Sure, I have some tapes from
    some of the newer bands, but on quite a few of them there are only
    one or two songs that I like.  For instance, "Welcome to the Jungle"
    is a great song, but the rest of the album, and this is only my
    opinion, isn't worth the price of the tape. It was always the opposite
    for me with the classic metal.  There may be one or two songs that
    I don't like but that's it.
    If I had to chose between my classic collection and my newer stuff,
    I would trash the new stuff without a second thought.
    
    Chris D.
193.4Here's my .02TORA::KELLYWin or die trying... 291-9089Mon Aug 15 1988 13:3017
    
    There are some classic tunes out there that to this day still kick
    a** but whats wrong with liking newer music.  I love most of Led
    Zeps' music but I also love Metallica.  In one way or another they're
    all related.  Without the guitar pioneering work of Jimi Hendrix I'm
    quite sure most of what we listen to today would'nt exist.  There
    should be no arguements as to which type of music is better because
    deep down they all have the same roots.  And more importantly..as
    long as its good who cares how old or new it is?  8^)
    
    Nuff said.
    
    Brian 
    
    		Hows it going Mark?
    
    
193.5can't see the wood for the treesSUBURB::DALLISONLouder, I still have brain cellsMon Aug 15 1988 13:508
                           
    
    Aww come on people.....     
    
    It doesn't matter if its old and "classic" or new and different,
    its still music.
         
    -Tony
193.8not def to new music just donot always listenRAVEN1::LOWEMon Aug 15 1988 14:5037
    It took me three times but I finally figured out how to get in to
    these notes.  If this is in the wrong place one of you can fix it
    for me.  I am glad that some of you agree with me that classic rock
    is the best.  However, I am afraid that some of you have charactorized
    me as a deaf classic rocker who refuses to listen to the new groups
    and give them a chance.  This was a mistake.  Most of the tapes
    I have made over the past year are by new groups.  The reason I
    did not mention them in my first entry is because I want to be known
    as one who prefers the classic stuff to the new stuff. Yet I have
    many new favorites.  I really like guns and Roses, the new VV invasion,
    and the new Cinderella.  I also like kingdom come because they remind
    me of a modernday zep.  I think that the new Def Leppard and Poison
    tapes are excellent and will be around for awhile.  
    
    There are so many more groups around now than they were during the
    Zep days that it is hard to determin which ones will stick and become
    classics.  I believfe that our kids will listen to groups like Def
    Leppard and Van Halen and think they are classics.  
    
    Almost every new group today can be traced back to one of the classic
    groups.  This does not include groups like Guns and Roses who have
    there own unique sound.  In my opinion the new groups that do not
    sound like older ones will be popular in the future.  
    
    It may seem like every possibility in rock and roll has been conquered
    but this will never happen.  Therefore I am happy to sit back and
    listen to the classics while at the same time checking out the new
    sounds.  
    
    Let me know if there are some new groups that I am not aware of
    who have a unique sound of there own.  I will check them out.  I
    listen to Metal Shop every week and it helps some.  
    
    Now that I have clarified my musical tastes I am ready to disguss
    any classic group or album that you would like.  Maybe we can open
    a new section for new groups.  
    
193.10I'm so ashamedSALEM::BUTKUSMon Aug 15 1988 15:079
    
    re.9
    
    	C'mon Pete 
    	 try to push Iron Maiden or Anthrax on him.
    
    				M
    				 B
    
193.12an appreciation for the heavier thingsPAPAW::MINARDIMon Aug 15 1988 17:059
    
    	Well, Pete, you're such a rebel. Fact is, include me in the
    "enlightened" category. I'm with you. I love Metallica, the 
    Anthrax that I've heard, and S.O.D. is AWESOME. If I had more money
    left each week, I'd buy some more of the HEAVY variety of metal.
    	Just what IS classic metal anyway? I'd like to hear what groups
    are considered classic metal besides ZEP.
    
    fill me in/Motorbreath
193.14here are a couple of my fave classicsHAZEL::STARRYou ain't nothin' but fine, fine, fine!Mon Aug 15 1988 17:5422
Off the top of my head - some classic HM:

Deep Purple 
Black Sabbath
Led Zeppelin
Cream
Humble Pie
Grand Funk Railroad
Alice Cooper
Iron Butterfly (ugh!)
Blue Cheer
The Who (listen to 'Live at Leeds' LP)
Jimi Hendrix
Aerosmith
Rolling Stones (mostly for attitude, not so much musically)
Queen (questionable call here, I admit, but the early stuff did kick butt)
Steppenwolf (made popular the term 'heavy metal')

I know people will come up with more than this, but it's a start. I also
didn't include pop/metal like BTO or Guess Who, etc.

cat
193.15BTO::BAGDY_MTue Aug 16 1988 09:587
    Classic Judas Priest (Mid 70's)
    Robin Trower (although he swayed between METALurgy and acid rock)
    
    	Two more to add to the list, which definately made an impression
    on the foundation for HM.  
    
    METALord
193.17Refiled, for your protectionHSSWS1::GREGYour problems: Not my concernTue Aug 16 1988 19:1539
    
    	    In the interest of preserving our collective sanity,
    	I have deleted the following note (previously written in
    	all uppercase character, complete with several misspellings),
    	and reposted it here after cleaning it up.  Let this be a 
    	warning:  I will not continue to provide this service for
    	noters too lazy to release the CAPS LOCK key!
    
    	-=[MOSAT]=-
    
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Note 193.17                       Classic Metal                         17 of 17
RAVEN1::LOWE                                         22 lines  16-AUG-1988 14:15
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    I agree with cook on the classic groups.  I would like to include
    the Eagles to the classic pop groups.  They were great and when
    they included Jo W on guitar they produced some hard rocking albums.
    Hotel California is my favorite.  As for the speed metal, I do like
    a little of it.  My neighbor is into it big and he gave me the Master
    Of Puppits album.  I listen to it when I have had a hard day and
    feel like killing someone.  The rest of it still reminds me of machines
    and chainsaws.  Perhaps it is suitable for construction workers
    since they hear similar sounds all day while working.  Nothing can
    touch the classics.  
    
    
    
    What are your favorite albums?  Mine include the first two Van Halens, the
    White, Parinoid, the first Hendrix, all Zeps, Machinehead, Derrick
    and the Dominoes (Layla), the first Boston, the Stones Hotrocks and
    Rewined, all ACDC before 1981, both Beatles greatest hits, and many
    more.  Most of these can be found in my collection.  What do you
    think, Cook? 
    
    Metal Mark Z
    
193.18The first official -=[MOSAT]=- apologyHSSWS1::GREGNuisance: YOU!Tue Aug 16 1988 20:509
    re: .17
    
    	   I have since been informed of the reason for the 
    	aforementioned uppercase note.  My apologies to the
    	author.  Perhaps I will make the service available
    	in the future, after all.
    
    	-=[MOSAT]=-
    	(embarassed, but not blushing)
193.19Many classicsKETJE::VLASIUThu Sep 28 1989 08:275
    What about Uriah Heep, Rush and in some way Yes with its Close to the
    Edge ? There are also the new classics like Queensryche and Iron Maiden
    to name only those two. Scorpions are also a great classic which still
    lives well.
    Regards, Sorin V.