Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    
    Yup,
    
    I think death metal is....

    
    Death-Metal:Death-Metal:Death-Metal:Death-Metal:Death-Metal:Death-Metal
    
    R U L E S  !!!!!!!!!!
    
    I think Death-Metal is the best since Beethoven.
    
    Gulp

    
    take thirteen asprins and call me in the morning...
    

    
        The title of this note was changed to 'Slayer'.  Is the title
        of the new album 'South of Heaven'?
    
                                                            Shawn GTI
                                                              Co-mod
    

    
    Yeah, the new album is 'SOUTH OF HEAVEN'. It's THE best SLAYER-album
    I ever heard.
    By the way, have you all Slayer-albums, 'KBOMFG::SCHLOSSBAUER'
    (Hermann) ?
    
    
    bye, Jochen.
    

    
    I HAVE all Slayer-albums, and many other Speed-, Trash- and Death
    Metal albums. I can really say, that Slayer is one of the greatest
    Bands. Not only because they play fast.
    Kerry King is one of the best Gitarrists !!
    
    Hermann-Munster

    
    
    Can any of you Slayer fanatics answer me this:-
    
    Does Kerry King play LIVE with that metal, nail covered wristband??
    
    I bet he scratches the hell out of that BC Rich.
    
    -Tony

    
    I don't like the new slayer, and it not cuz I'm not really into
    death metal.
    
    I liked Reign in Blood much better. I mean, I can't see these new
    vocals on South of Heaven..I expected the grunge/draino vocals of
    past slayer. I think Rick Rubin didn't do slayer much justice in
    the production. The songs are plodding and go nowhere too fast.
    There wasn't even that much speedy stuff on the lp (IMO). Anyway,
    I think its not a good representation of Slayer (whatever that may
    be).
    
    As far as Kerry King being one of the best guitarists, well...

    
    
    re .8
    
    Yes Kerry King does wear that w-band live.  But I saw them once
    when he didnt have it cause the cops said it was a "lethal weapon"
    That thing is pretty nasty eh?
    
    Speaking of Slayer and Death metal has anyone ever heard of a band
    dubbed the baby slayer???  Theyre called Death Angel and they are
    definitely worth picking up.  I can see some serious similarities
    between them and Slayer.
    
    
    Q.  Did someone say that the new album is a compilation album or
    was that an opinion of the album????
    
    Bk
    
    				theres only one way to exit....
    

    
    			Slaytanic Trivia
    
    Q.  What is the message that Slayer is saying on the beginning of
    their Hell Awaits album.
    
    I know do you?????
    
    Bk
    

    re .12
    
    naaaaaa your way off.  Its just a promotional thing for the band.
     take a listen to it and let me know if ya get it.
    
    Bk
    

    
    	The new Slayer album is great!  The idea was to slow down a
    bit and experiment.  Notice that the fastest tracks are by Kerry
    King, he didn't have a lot to say on this album so Tom "I'm a Poet"
    Araya finally managed to get his lyrics on vinyl.  I'm going to
    see these guys again on Sept 20th, I'll let ya'll know how the new
    stuff comes across live then.
    
    Reign in Blood,
    			The Duck.

    
    Yeah, you're right, the fastest tracks are by Mr. King and the other
    by Jeff Hanneman. But Slayer without Dave Lombardo (my opinion:
    He is the best drummer of America) wouldn't be so great as they
    are today. 
    My favourite songs on South of Heaven are: Silent Scream and Mandatory
    Suicide, but Angel of Death is the best Slayer-song!
     
    Hermann-Munster

    
    
    If anyone is interested in, here is the complete Discographie from
    Slayer:
    
    ALBUMS:               EP's:                    
    
    1 Show No Mercy       1 Criminally Insane      
    2 Hell Awaits         2 Haunting the Chapel     
    3 Reign In Blood      3 Live Undead
    4 Live Undead
    5 South of Heaven
                                     
    
    O.K.
    By the way, sorry for my English, but I'm a GERMAN guy.
     
    Hermann-Munster

    re .14
    
    And the answer is (drum roll pleaze!!) "Join us...if you dare"
    
    Its a promotional thing for thier fan club...kinda cute eh??
    
    Bk 8^)
    

    
    I just bought the new Slayer last night and its great!!!  There
    isnt as much speed as there was in other albums but the mix between
    speed and a little more mellow stuffshows that they can change and
    are not limited to one kind of style. Perhaps this mix of speed and
    the slower(than usual)music will attract a bigger audience then
    it would if it were all speed. Any one can play fast but how good
    can you play slow. 
    
    Anyway its a good album well worth the $$$  Check it out  8^)
    
    Bk   The way that I want you to DIE...
    
    

    
    
    
    	Woah!!!	I saw Slayer (with Nuclear Assault supporting) on Tuesday
    night at the Hammersmith Odeon, London, England.  They totally killed.
     The new stuff from South of Heaven was played a bit faster.  I
    can't remember the whole set but songs included;
    	South of Heaven
    	Reign in Blood
    	Silent Scream
    	Chemical Warfare
    	Ghosts of War
    	Mandatory Suicide
    	Die by the Sword
    	Angel of Death
    	Post Mortem
    	At Dawn they Sleep
    	Read Between the Lies
    
    	The stage set was pretty basic, as always, the backdrop that
    of the inside of a church.  The famous inverted crosses made several
    apperances, and Kerry King had a new BC Rich (lovely blood red and
    jet black).
    	The atmosphere was fantastic, the crowd went wild, the sound
    was excellent, and the stewards didn't f**k anybody over.
    	It was probably the best gig I've ever been to.
    
    	The Duck.   8^)

    Slayer was in Denver with Judas Priest and I heard that they sucked.
    This is a quote from a Slayer diehard, I guess they killed him.
    +<:-)
    
    
    the devil dog with someone else's opinion

    RE: 19
    
    	Wrong quotation, if I may correct you...
    
    It's not how good you can play it slow, no no !!!!! (Simpleton)
    
    	It's not how fast you play it, it's how good you play it fast!
    
    You listen to Slayer, and you're trying to tell people who also
    listen to Slayer that it's how good you play it slow???
    
    	Auschwitz, the meaning of pain, the way that I want you to die!
    	Slow death, immense decay, showers that cleanse you of your life!
    
    								Face

    
    	RE: 22
    
    	    Of course, that was just an incoherent babbling being offered
    	due to the lack of anything else better to say. No offense.
    	As anyone who has heard the new album knows, Slayer is indeed
    	starting to experiment with some "different" tempos in their
    	material.
    
    	    And, of course, they're playing some of the best, and the-
    	fastest death metal yet to be applied to a plastic disc.
    	(or_cassette)
    
    	    So, with that in mind:
    
    			MOTORHEAD, SLAYER, OVERKILL   (In Boston)
    			---------  ------  --------
    
    		At the Orpheum Theatre on November 5, 1988.
    
    		Tickets went on sale October 18th.
    
    	If you are TRULY a fan of Slayer, then I would highly suggest
    	that you try to attend this incredible display of metal's
    	dirtiest, (Motorhead), most deadly (Slayer), and most promising -
    	(Overkill) members of the "corps" (No *e* on the end)
    
    	    If you do attend, I hope you enjoy the evening, and do reply
    	on how the dudes Slayer affect your overall opinion of the band.
    
    						Thank you,
    						  Face

      
     re.22
       
    	What I was trying to say that with the greater variety of tempos
    (such as the varity displayed on the new album) they will attract
    a greater audience.  Also because they are playing a little slower
    it shows a little more talent than just playing a million mph. 
    They can do both but there were some that said it couldn't be
    done....well Slayer showed em !!
    
    Bk
    
    Who has every Slayer album AND tics for the Orpheum show!!!  
    
    Monarch to the Kingdom of the dead!!!
    
    

    
    	ALL the f***ing albums! AND I had my face torn off at the Orpheum!
    
    	NOTE: The show was reviewed in the Boston Globe the monday
    		immediately after that fateful night.
    
    		Also, check the most recent Boston Phoenix!! (11-Nov-88)
    
    		They've at least given a better review than the Globe!

    Hi Slayer fans!
    
    I have a question. How many albums has Slayer made until now? And:
    who knows where Slayer comes from? What country? city? Where do
    they live?
    
    bye
    florian b.
    

    
    Slayer are writing the follow-up to South of Heaven (cool album!) and
    will begin recording shortly.......the material is supposed to be the
    fastest the band has *ever* recorded!  Ye-haa!  BAck to the good old
    Reign In Blood!!!
    
    Flip

                
                Most excellent!    RIB  and  SOH  are  both great
                albums!  I  was  starting  to  wonder when therir
                next would be.
                
                - Rob still waiting  for  Flotsam  & Jetsam's new
                one -
                

    
    	I wonder if Kerry's learned to solo yet?!?!?  (:
    
    BK
    

Copied from RAW without permission:

Slayer have just begun work on their latest studio album in Los Angeles
with producer Rick Rubin.  Titled Seasons in the Abyss, it should be 
released by Def American during August.

But what does it sound like?  well, there's been no move towards Des
O'Conner country.  Indeed according to Tom Araya: "Slayer fans are gonna
freak out when they hear what we're doing.  There is the usual fast stuff
very much in the vein of RIB.  But we've also got some slower material
that carries on from where our last LP, SOH left off.  And there's one
song War Ensemble that's virtually got a punk feel.  This particular track
is about the craziness of war and speculates that one day war will become
a huge spectator sport."

Other titles confirmed for inclusion include:  Seasons in the Abyss (which
deals with an English mass murderer who "specialised in killing little
girls.  He treated it as a vocation and felt it his duty to kill!  He was
the first murderer caught by the modern technique of genetic fingerprinting.")
Dead Skin Mask (about 50s serial killer Ed Gein, a farmer from Wisconsin
"who was pretty weird.  He kept parts of his victims for souvenirs.  This
number is really spooky.")  Expendible Youth ("About the insanity of young 
kids who join street gangs and believe that dying for the cause is a good
thing to do.") Born of Fire ("Back to basics song written by Kerry King")
and Spirit in Black (like the last named, a song with a suitable satanic
slant).  The quartet are also toying with prospective cover versions,
possible for inclusion on the flip side of future singles.

The foursome will be over here during October, headlining the COTT tour,
on a bill that also features Megadeth, Testament and Suicidal Tendencies.

One other good piece of news.  The four memeber have settled their hitherto
much-publicised differences.  "everyone's been voicing their opinions and
even listening to what others have to say!  We are getting along very
well, which is nes to Slaer!"

On July 2nd the Show no mercy adn Hell awaits album will be re-released in
the UK with two extra tracks on each: Aggresive Perfector/Chemical warfare
and Captor of sin/Haunting the chapel respectively.

Cheer, Flip

    I was not into Slayer but now, after listening attentively "South of
    Heaven", I decided to check all their previous work. SOH is great and
    represents a reference in HM.
    
    Sorin

    
    I got the new Slayer today (from my rep).
    
    Haven't listened to it yet.

Well, I listened twice times "Seasons in the abyss" and I can say:
it's one of the best HM albums ever released !
From the very first time it catches you and this continues until the end of the
last (10) song. There is no break between the songs and they continue one 
through the other. 42 minutes of HM excitement !
The album is no more thrash only but it still contains high quality thrash.
"Seasons.." continues from where SOH left but which more speed and energy and
better structured songs. And SOH was already a great album. Araya sings better
than ever, instrumentals are extremely effective and the recording and 
production are first class. Where the album shines most is in the compositions
which are all equally excellent.
This album should satisfy not only thrashers but any HM fan ! It's speed metal
at its top (Metallica should take this in consideration for their next album).
One more thing about the compositions .. you may listen the album at low volume
and it still catches you completely. At high volume it burns but the sound and
voices remain crystal clear.
The overall atmosphere recalls Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" and 
"Master of reality" but in Slayer's vision. Sure Slayer are kings of thrash, but
they are even better in speed metal riffs and they realized it.

Now the songs:

1.  War ensemble	- heavy thrash/speed
2.  Blood red		- speed metal SOH continuing
3.  Spirit in black	- starts speed metal and accelerates to thrash
4.  Expandable youth	- fast, melodic, accelerating, mad drums and solos
5.  Dead skin mask	- slower but more complex, creating atmosphere
6.  Hallowed point	- heavy thrash/speed
7.  Skeletons of society- medium speed, fine backing chorus
8.  Temptation		- heavy speed/thrash
9.  Born of fire	- starts thrashy and goes to speed metal riffs
10. Seasons in the abyss- the most ambitious, with slow complex intro, melodic
				(backing vocals) and continued with heavy riffs

All 10 songs are best, and, for non-thrashers, don't worry, the more thrashy 
songs have enough breaks and changes to satisfy any speed metal fan.

Conclusion: Highly recommended to *any* HM fan. This is a milestone album.
Enjoy !

Sorin

    Re. .33
    
    Sorry the title of the 4th song is "Expendable youth".
    One more remark also, the song refrains (incl. the 4th) are very catchy
    and you can sing along with. But remember you're singing with an
    armoured tank running to you..
    
    Sorin

    	Simple note...
    
    	I just saw these guys last month, at the Channel, in Boston.
    	I believe it was a wednesday evening...
    
    	They were preparing to jaunt overseas, and were flaunting all
    	of their new material. I especially enjoyed being thrashed
    	the entire show, as there wasn't anyplace inside the club,
    	besides "the cage", which was suitably safe from harm.
    
    	There were people hanging from the rafters, skinheads and
    	freaks alike all moshing around. At one point Tom A. said
    	after a song, "try to mosh in the middle, woodjya? I don't
    	want anybody to get flattened". These guys had their own PA
    	with them, and that stuff was piled from the floor to the
    	ceiling. Just then Tom rather articulately stated, "I don't
    	want anybody to get hurt".
    
    	Hmmmmmmm, about those lyrics dude...  Oh well...

    I just got a chance to listen to "Seasons In The Abyss" (thanks
    waste_dude !) and I gota tell ya ... this is a *good* album.  I didn't
    think it would be, because "South Of Heaven" and the other one ("Reign
    In Blood" maybe ?) were noise to me ...
    
    But this album isn't all mega-fast thrashy stuff.  There's some
    slightly slower stuff on there that even us aging headbangers can get
    into !  Good stuff ...    8^)
    
    Scary (who's gonna listen to this and Danzig II all night ... I might
    kill someone for breakfast ... just for fun.)

    
    I just saw SLAYER and TESTAMENT about 3 weeks ago in ALBQ,NM and 
    they were KILLER [SLAYER].The mosh was great and the sound was
    intense.The crowd went crazy for "angel of death"and i thought 
    that was the best song. 
    
                     "LONG LIVE SLAYER"
    
                      " GHOST RIDER" 
    

    
    	The song "Seasons in the Abyss" is fantastic!!  This is sim-
    	ilar to what I thought Savatage would sound like, and then
    	hearing "Gutter Ballet".
    
    	Sorin, is the rest of SItA like the title song?
    
    							GTI
    

Re. GTI

Yes, "Disposable youth", "Dead skin mask", "Skeltons of society", "Souls in
black" (the few I remember better) are of the same quality and style with
"Seasons..". All the album is very good. Surely the album contains also 3
old Slayer style songs ("War ensemble" is one of them) but you'll enjoy them
too after one or two listenings. I think is one of the very best HM albums to
date (surely very energetic but also very precisely played).
Enjoy !

Sorin

    
    	Well, looks like this is on my list then.
    
    	Thanks!!
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	I picked up "Seasons in the Abyss", but haven't really listened
    	to it yet ... just the title track.
    
    	Next time I'm home for awhile I'll have to load it into the
    	player.
    
    							GTI
    

    Hit it quick Shawn.  The first track, 'War Ensemble' I think, is
    typical old style Slayer but the rest of the album is almost melodic
    (^8*, if such a thing can be said about Slayer!
    
    My favourite track is the title track, which is the last on the album. 
    This is a wee bit disappointing because you are left in the position of
    wanting more, and there isn't any!  They should really put the best
    stuff in the middle (^8*.  Still the whole album is great, and I say
    this not being a Slayer fan!
    
    
    
    GAZ

      I have to agree with GAZ. As a matter of fact, the first time I
    listened to it I thought "it's okay". The more I listened however, the
    more I liked it. Now I listen to it quite often. My wife hates it so, I
    naturally leave in the tape player of the car at a fairly high volume
    level. That way whenever she starts the car up she has to listen to a
    few notes of it before she rips it out and throws it across the car. I
    love it.
    					The KER
    

After much search I got finally "Reign in blood". It's an excellent album.
Quite short but so intense. Now I understand why SitA was presented as mixing
the influences from SoH, for the more tempered part, and from RiB for the 
faster songs. In any case RiB, SoH and SitA are three essential albums.

Sorin

    Now, concerning SoH and RiB, I think RiB is fast and heavy hammering
    from the beginning to the end while SoH introduces some (fine) mid
    tempo riffs and more melody. SitA contains both kinds. I like them all
    three equally well (each one shows an evolution).
    
    Sorin

    Ya know ... I've been listening to SITA a LOT lately.  This album seems
    to have taken a similar turn as `Metallica' did for Metallica.  They
    slowed it down, made it `heavier', and as a result, it's a LOT more
    popular to the masses.  But Metallica is getting beat to death for it -
    nobody has said a word about Slayer ... kinda strange.  I could care
    less, it's a monster album.  SOH was just too fast/garbled/etc.  I
    didn't get into it at all.
    
    Scary

    Slayer probably don`t get slated `cos they have a couple of real fast
    songs (War Ensemble is one),and sections of speed in the slow songs.
    
    Can`t wait for the live album,it`s got killer reviews. PLEEZ not
    another appalling album cover.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

Re. Scary

While slowed down, Slayer's SITA remains very punchy and hot by using the
heavier riffs. It still contains some older style songs. Slayer has just
slowed down to be better listened (like Coroner on their last album and
Sepultura on "Arise"). This explains the widening of audience.
Metallica, when they released AJFA, slowed down a bit too much and have not
compensated this by adapted compositions. But they learned quickly and
reviewed their approach on "Metallica" which is a very strong album even if
it's slower than earlier works.

Sorin

    
    Decade is out... Quite awesome!
    
    
    Chris/HMBP

In Brussels the Slayer concert on 24th November has been forbidden because
fear of riots (there are some elections next day..)

It was the only concert which I wanted to see eventually.
I'll check for the new album. Is it a live album, a best of, or a new one ?

Sorin

    
    I recently was given a copy of the new live double CD. 
    
    What a load of rubbish!!!

    Why? `Cos it hasn`t got harmonic peggio scales in D minor on it?
    
    Try listening to something other than guitar wank,please.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    Their drummer is incredible!

    Truly talented!
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    I'm not a mega mega mega slayer fan...but I do think they are one o'
    the best around. No one can match their speed and vitality. I doubt
    that Poison would be around for ten years while slayer has considering
    the following facts.
    
    1) No radio play
    2) No Ballad
    3) No MTV puppy geeks drooling on 'em
    4) Lawsuits up the ying yang
    5) Panzi-ass preachers who won't leave them alone
    6) one hair color
    7) no spandex
    8) no lipstick
    9) no stradling the guitar like they wish it was their penis.
    10) Slayer probably the most dedicated fans in the world.
    
    
    in reference to # 10... Did you know, that slayer has the world record
    for most concert memorablia sold at a single concert...in Japan of all
    places.
    
    Though they don't even have a gold record 95% of their shows are sold
    out...explain that.
    
    Chris
    5)

    It`s `cos they play with sincerity and conviction. Also,because live
    they`re superb. I`ve seen them twice at the Hammersmith Odeon,and
    the power and clarity of sound was amazing.
    
    Truly a skilled group of musicians.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    Are you going next week?
    
    Flip

    Hadaway,man. That`s come round quick. YES,as long as i can get a 
    ticket. Could you give me the exact date?
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    Hammersmith Odeon, 5/6th November - tickets are still available.
    
    Flip

Slayer have never compromised their music for commercial reasons. They have a
strong following because of this. They are also first class musicians and know
to write excellent songs showing their original style.

Sorin

    
    I always get a kick out of the "the record companies are gonna control
    your music" crowd because when you play as heavy as these guys do,
    you don't have to compromise. Only if you're gonna play crap do you
    have to worry about it.

>They are also first class musicians and know
    
Oh please...aren't we just pushing this a TAD far?!?
    
    No one in Slayer is a first class musician!!  In fact, the articles
    I've read with Tom and Kerry, when asked about their solos, they both 
    admit "Oh, we don't know what the f... we're doing.  I mean, we know
    when a song is in E minor, or A minor, but we don't know any of that
    mode s..., we just play"
    
    nuff said                                   
                                                            

Do ya have to know 'modes' to be a good musician, or do you have to know
modes to walk_the_walk and talk_the_talk ??

I know lots of folks who know modes, can talk up a storm, but you
put a guitar in their hands and can't *play* sh*t !

jc (Who knows pentatonic minor/major modes and do-re-mi  ;)

    So what? Just `cos they don`t know what the technical "c in a minor
    classical blip" expression for the stuff they do,don`t mean they`re
    not good musicians. (I think you mean JEFF and Kerry,btw).
    
    Besides,the stuff on Hell Awaits is very technical.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    Musicians or not, last night Slayer pissed over every other band's
    fireworks!  It had to be the best concert for which I was lucky enough
    to attend, I feel as if every one of my senses has been assaulted.
    F*cking excellent!
    
    MindF*ck lived up to good expectations although they're not quite up to
    a standard to play a venue the size of Hammersmith Odeon - ina club
    they would be awesome.
    
    Flip

    Slayer will release a new home video scheduled for Feb, and the band
    will record a new album for late 92'.
    
                   Frizkid
    

    
    REIGN IN BLOOD silly... ;')
    
    I hope Lombardo lives up to all the credit I give him...

    
    	I forgot who I asked but it was Andy Wallace I was trying to
    	recall.
    
    	- Jim, memory isn't what it...

    This band just makes me laugh...In a good way though.
      I saw a vid of theirs on HHB and I've never seen thrashers pull
    on the WAMMY bar so much in my life.  
          It was entertaining...........
                      Frizkid
    

    
    You oughta whip out an Exodus album... whammy fever.
    
    

    Slayer do way too much wammy. I don`t know why,cus on their first
    2 albums the solos are well constructed and well executed.
    
    Also,the production nowadays is rubbish. Gimme the production on
    Hell Awaits any day.
     

    I've just read that Dave Lombardo has left the band(again).He briefly
    left the band in '88 and was replaced by T.J Scaglione(sp),the drummer
    from Whiplash.The replacement this time will be the drummer from the
    Forbidden(can't remember the name).
    
    
    
                                                 Staynz

Dave Lombardo was for much in Slayer's sound. However the one from Forbidden
is also an excellent one. Sad for Forbidden that they loose the drummer.
Like Slayer, Forbidden was composed by first class players.

Sorin

      Slayer is awesome, I didn't like a lot of their older stuff, like
    hell awaits, but everything after that has been killer.
    I heard that their drummer quit. uh oh big boss man, gotta go.
    
    jensen
    

    
    Lombardo has quit after every album yet goes back.
    
    The members of this band are not even friends.
    
    

    IF they aren't friends why do they continue to play "music" together?
    
         REPEAT AFTER ME:
    
    They're losers and no one else wants to play with them...
    Of course, if Mr. King kicks the bucket I know a cool replacement for
    him....C.C. DEVILLE!!!!!!!!!!
    
      Friz
    

    Here is my impression of Slayer in concert:
    
     GROWL...^)&@^)&*^@)$*&^!@*%)*!&@%$)&*@^%$)*!@&$%^&@*$mumblemumble%(^&%
    (@&^%#(@^%(@^%(@^*&$%(!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
    death....killl..AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!
    
    (Insert Kerry King squeling like a stuck pig and he pulls his tremelo
    out of his B.C. RICH)
    
     ********MASTER IMMPRESSIONIST*************
    
     Friz
    

Hey, no fair, Friz!  Those lyrics are copyrighted, you know!
;-)




Rob

    
    strangulation, multilation, cancer of the brain
    limb dissection, amputation from a mind deranged
    asphyxiation, suffocation, gasping for air
    explain to me the feeling of sitting in the chair
    
    see, you CAN understand their lyrics!!!  :')  these guys rule!
    
    

I just bought "Show no mercy" on CD. Great album (especially as a band's first)! 
Is "Hell awaits" as good ? I had already the last three studio albums.
How is also the latest live double CD.

Sorin

    Hell Awaits is the best album this lot did,imo. It`s not that popular,
    (i believe they only do 1 song live from it),but it`s my favourite
    anyhow.
    
    Try to get Haunting the Chapel and Live Undead EP`s n`all.
    

    JOIN US JOIN US JOIN US   WELCOMB BACK!!!!!
    

    I LIKE SHOW NO MERCY THE BEST JEFF HAS ONE SICK MIND!!!
    
    (Passion grows to feast upon the frozen blood inside her)Thats sick
    stuff   (Does Jeff Hanneman belong in an insane asylum?)
    
    Well as long as he doesnt leave SLAYER !!!
    

    Finally I got "Hell Awaits". For me it is the least impressive of
    their studio albums (I have SitA, SNM, RiB and SoH). It remains good
    but less punchy than SNM and RiB. I think it is speedy but it lacks the
    killer riffs of SNM and RiB which are its neighbours in time.
    
    Sorin

    
    
     Give it a chance.
    
     Vintadge slayer !!!
    
    

    Re. .94
    
    I listened HA after being very impressed by SNM. Although HA is fine,
    it has no equivalent of Tormentor, Black Magic, Cryogenic, Antichrist.
    On HA the energy is more controlled and a bit less spontaneous than on
    SNM.
    
    Sorin

    Yes. Give Hell Awaits a chance. The songs are not as accessible as
    the other albums,i`ll admit,but i still reckon it`s their best effort
    to date.
    

    
       I picked up D.O.A. (Decade of Agression) copy # 9928. they only made
    10,000 of them. Allthough the sound quality is sh*t it a nice nick-nack
    my case is starting to rust.
    
    

    
     Slayer are releasing a new album sometime next month.No details of
     the title,but it has been given brilliant reviews.

      Will be out on Sept. 27th.  that was told by Tom A. at the Milwaukee 
    Metalfest 3 weeks ago.  The new stuff they played at the show kinda 
    cheese compared to old stuff.
    
     Dle  
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    6-+-6
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    well sorin, here's a quicky...
    
    listened to the new slayer twice in between dream theater listens :').
    i've gotta say, the production on this thing is STRANGE...  first thing
    i noticed is that the vocals dont seem to mix in at all...in my mind im
    picturing the visual equivalent of taking a picture of someone, cutting
    out around them and pasting it onto a new background...  doesnt look
    right...  :').  the drums to me sound triggered... well, mainly the
    bass drums i guess.  as for the songs...   the first couple didnt
    really do much for me, after that it got much better.  i really need to
    give it a few more listens but i think if you like SoH and RiB you'll
    like this.
    

Thank you for the comments. I think I'll buy it.

Sorin

    
    well, the more i listen to it, the better it gets.  im liking the first
    couple of songs now :').  the production still takes some getting used
    to though.
    

    
    yep, the more i listen, the more i like it.  next on my list is new
    testament and QR.
    

    I had a quick listen/scan of it and I was well impressed. I observed
    also the mixing and voice things which you already noted.
    Slayer keeps constant its good quality.
    
    Sorin

    saw slayer last night in glasgow, scotland. supported by machine head
    
    the show was excellent,crowd were as wild
    as i've ever seen. plenty of surfin/diving etc.. 
    
    and that was just machine head!
    
    Slayer were also superb. very,very tight. soundwise, better than any
    metal band i've heard - you could hear everything clearly.
    
    go and see them if you get a chance, well worth the effort. 
    
    jim (with ears still ringing)
                                 
    

    
    Hey jim,
     I was there also.What did you think of Kerry Kings new hair do,
    (completely bald) and was that a tattoo right around the back of his head?
    
       great gig though,
                        Greg.

re:-1.

greg, 

your not wrong. at first i thought it was that kind of shaving art you see 
rappers having done.

I saw more casualties at slayer than any other gig (other than GBH in the old 
punk days). bodies everywhere and ambulances outside to boot!!

i'm not surprised they only did 1.5 hours, they certainly put max effort into
their playing. besides, another encore would have added me to the casualty list 
8^).

jim.

    I recently found out that the guitarist in Slayer lives here.  I know 
    the guy that raises rabbits that the Slayer dude buys them from.  

    Could be for snake food too.  I've known people that had bigger snakes
    that fed them rabbits.
    
    Greg

    Satan = the Serpent

    
    buck would probably know, but i didnt think it was good to feed snakes
    rabbits because they are too furry.  big fat rats on the other hand...
    
    

    Snakes will eat anything -- fish, frogs, mice, rats, rabbits, cats,
    etc. -- depending on their size, hunger, etc.  If you're talking a
    10' - 15' Retic or Burmese python, then rabbits wouldn't be out of
    the question.

    
    Yum yum yum.....such appetizing talk at dinner time!
    
    But I guess snakes gotta eat too!
    
    /jen
    

    >Snakes will eat anything -- fish, frogs, mice, rats, rabbits, cats, etc.
    
    ...livestock, people, children...

    We had a big one at school which they fed rabbits too.  I don't
    remember what it was for sure, reticulated python I think, but it was
    about 15 ft long.
    
    Greg

    
    thats a small retic :')
    
    

    It looked pretty big to me, but I'm not into snakes so...
    
    gh

    
    
    snakes.....yuk!I crap myself at big worms never mind 15 foot snakes!
    
    
    
    					ian

Last time I decided to refresh a bit my HM collection, so I picked up Slayer's
Divine Intervention and Decade of Aggression and Sepultura's Chaos AD.
Excellent stuff !
DI has to be one of the most aggressive albums of the year and it is positioned
somewhere in between RiB and SitA. It is very fast but in almost all songs
you can find very impressive killer riffs. The lyrics are also very tough
(a bit too much sometimes to my taste). Most of the songs are written by Kerry
King (thus the speed..). Paul Bostaph replaces with no problem Dave Lombardo.
10 songs for a total of almost 37 mins may seem short but given the kind
of music, it's like you've listened for more than an hour (for you ears).
Well recommended for sure !
DoA is also excellent. Slayer seems to keep the same quality live as when in
studio (they had a fine success in Brussels). Even the songs from Hell Awaits
(which is my least prefered Slayer work) are much hotter on this live album.
Well recommended also !

Sorin 

    Hi all. My name is Dave. I live in KAO. I have to agree with Sorin with
    re to DI. Yes this CD Kix! Ya gotta like 'Dittohead' man, 2 ,min 37 sec
    of raw, powerful anger. There is no other band as agressive as Slayer.
    I do not know much about the band except their names. I was unaware
    that the drummer left, but the new guy seems good. I own 'Show No
    Mercy' and 'DI' and for 1983 'SNM' REALLY kix.
    
    Dave  
    
     

    
    hey dave!  if you like slayer, check out cannibal corpse also.
    
    

    CC roolz!

    Wasn't CC in Ace Ventura?
    
    Dave

    
    	Courtney Cox?  Yup, she was.
    

    Dave,
    
    The current drummer from Slayer comes from Forbidden. You should also
    check Forbidden's CDs. High quality, speed, energy and intelligent.
    
    Sorin

    Sorin,
    
    I took a look around town for any Forbidden CD's. As far as I can tell,
    there are only 3 releases one is live stuff and another is no longer
    available. I ask the chick at the counter and she said that they are
    imports. I also checked a few places that sell used CD's but never
    found any ( actually, most people I asked never heard of them ) but I
    am going to order Forbidden Evil next time I hit the CD place since
    it's the only recordiong I can find.
    
    Dave
    

    One of the BEST albums SLAYER has out has go to be REIGN in BLOOD!
    I was bummed to hear that Dave L. left the band he has got to be the
    baddest "speed metal" drummers out there.  (Larz of course takes the
    best overall drummer award).  The new guy seems to do alright!

    
    I just watched their live VHS concert-thing before coming in
    tonight.
    
    "Angel Of Death" is my all-time favorite Slayer tune ever.
    
    Kev --
    
    

    
    re: -2
    
    If you like Dave L.'s drumming, have you checked out his new band
    called Grip inc.? 
    The Slayer boys said that Dave L. was booted out because his skill was
    diminishing. From the sounds of his new band, he's only gotten
    better... IMO only 'course.
    
    Dave
    
    
    

    	I just heard on WAAF this morning, someone had scheduled a
    	publicity tour for Slayer, at Disneyworld.
    
    	Didn't go over very well, their first stop was a bar stool,
    	and a photographer or two got out of hand.
    
    	One guy mooned a crowd, and some other guy jumped from a
    	tram ride plunging 3 stories into some sort of water or pool.
    
    	I guess Disneyworld won't be hosting any Slayer promotional
    	tours anytime soon...

Who was the rocket scientist who came up with that one?  Disney world abhors
anything that is "not right".  Security comes out of no where and removes
"undesirables" in a flash.

Tim

    Like they couldn't find a better place than DisneyWorld?  Talk about
    in-your-face.

    DisneyWorld sucks anyways.  I'll never understand why people bother
    going there?!

    
    	Because they know YOU'RE not there.
    

    Announcer: 	Shawn Labounty!  You've just found out that Buck wouldn't 
    		be caught dead at DisneyWorld.  What do you have to say????
    
    
    
    Shawn:    I'M GOING TO DISNEYWORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    

I agree, Buck.  I guess it is good if you have kids - so why would I like it?

Tim

    
    People who say DW sucks, in my opinion, never did DW the way it
    should be done.  This place is the resort of resorts with bazillions
    of adult things to do.  Admittedly, if you stay off-site, and commute in
    to see just the parks, and rush through those in a couple days or 
    so, you will leave very disappointed.
    
    However, if you've been a few times and go for 1-2 weeks each time and
    stay on site, you learn how to take advantage of a lot of things that
    have nothing to do with the theme parks.
    
    But don't take my word for it - the less of you there the better for
    me, anyway.
    
    Now, Disney*land*.... that does suck.
    
    - Sean

    1 - 2 WEEKS, are you MAD?!?
    
    NO place on earth is worth staying THAT long, imvho

    DISNEYLAND SUCKS??????
    
    What are you nuts, the value of it being the ORIGINAL, built by Walt
    himself, makes it cooler than DW.  Besides at least it's not in the
    middle of a freakin' swamp!
    
    Paully
    

    
    Is anyone really surprised Slayer acted that way?? If I got into a
    place like that for free, I'd be hangin' off stuff, jumpin' off stuff
    and/or breakin' up stuff. TOTAL ANARCHY!!!!!
    
    I've never been or DW or DL. I'll never afford to go there and 'see'
    everything. Besides, tourist traps are not necessarily the best places
    to go.
    
    Dave
    

Hey Buck,

 >1 - 2 WEEKS, are you MAD?!?
    
 >  NO place on earth is worth staying THAT long, imvho


 Try Oktoberfest this year, or snowboarding in the Alps next winter, the Great
Barrier Reef etc etc etc.

 Two weeks just isnt long enough.

 Nic 

    I'll give you the nod on Oktoberfest ... heaven on earth!

    I'll second the motion on the Great Barrier Reef!  Awesome to sy the
    least.
    
    Paully

	Let me see, two weeks in MickeyMall, I calculate that to be @$6000.00
	for a family of four...

	/Cap'n Quad

    	It'd be worth the cash to see someone from the Slayer entourage
    	jump from a tram ride into a man-made pond...
    
    	Talk about a Kodak moment...

    
    Mikey,
    
    While at DL, be sure to ride their "Pirates of the Carribean" ride...it
    is much better than DW's! :)
    
    Hopefully you can find it cuz it isn't in Clinton! :^)
    
    /jen

    
    	Go west, young man.
    

    
    technically
    
    Go SOUTHwest, (not so) young man! :^)
    
    /jen

    
    DisneyLand = Magic Kingdom.  DW is a superset of DL (DL has no Typhoon Lagoon,
    Pleasure Island, River Country, EPCOT, MGM, resort hotels, etc., etc.).
    DL is about 5% of DW.  The reason they built DW was so that could keep
    on adding to it.  
    
    If you are a first-timer, it is literally impossible to do everything
    at DW in under 3 weeks.
    
    - Sean

    
    Sean-
    
    While I'll admit there is a lot to do at DW, I will respectfully 
    disagree with your 3 week comment.  Unless you move like a snail you 
    can do MORE than you'd ever want of that stuff in a week or 10 days.  
    
    And I'll take Busch Gardens - Tampa over any one of the DW parks
    anyday!
    
    /jen

    
    and /jen I respectfully think you are talking about doing just
    the parks there, not experiencing much of the other stuff that
    rivals activities at the best of resorts.
    
    Look at it this way.  You could say that you could *do* all
    there was to do at Aruba in 1 day (beach, eat, drink) or 
    the same for a ski resort.  You may enjoy doing it for more
    than 1 day, though.
    
    I treat DW as a vacation resort, not just a theme park.
    
    So I am including stuff like riding the personal water sprites
    all over seven seas lagoon, eating at the 5-star Victoria and
    Alberts (2 waiters per table that work only for you, max of 
    9 tables in the place) or the Empress Lily, taking a moonlight
    cruise, seeing the shows at Pleasure Island or Top Of the World,
    visiting Discovery Island, catching movies at the state of the
    art theatres.  If you like relaxing at other resorts, I say you
    can get better here.  Have you tried the Norweigian smorgasbord
    in Epcot?  Have you seen New Years Eve (nightly at Pleasure Island).
    Have you gone to Illumninations (laser/fireworks show at Epcot)?
    Have you been to the Hoop-do-doo review at River Country or the
    Polynesian Luau?
    
    And if you're looking for thrill parks, sure, there are lots better
    places to go.  But if you tell me Busch is as clean and that
    the attention paid to detailing every building, every spec of the
    park, inside and out, that if the environment and atmosphere
    are better, I say you are nuts.  I've been to both, and once was
    enough at Busch.  I'll go to Kings Dominion for the "ride" parks
    and D.C. for the zoo.
    
    So it depends on what you go for.  I use it as a resort, I spend
    about 40% of my day total inside the parks.
    
    - Sean
    

Sean,

I agree there is lots to do, I just guess when I go away I don't like to 
'lounge' as much as some folks.

The last time I went to Orlando I did the following (and I'm sure I'm leaving 
somethings out) in 9 days:

MK
MGM
Epcot (yeah saw the illuminations)
SeaWorld (love their laser/water show ... makes illuminations look sad)
Epcot - (once you've actually been to the real places in England, and Paris,
        and Quebec, these have little spark left)
Tour of NASA
Went back another night to see the 1:00 a.m. lauch of a space shuttle - VERY
     Cool & a major highlight of the entire trip
Pleasure Island - overcrowded and not thrilled with 'environment' or people--
     "dah...let's get drunk and stupid"
Downtown Orlando - haunted walkthrus, clubs, restaurants, shops
Old Town Kississmee (sp?)
Fancy dinner out at some upscale Chinese place on International drive
Wild Bill's Dinner Theater
Church Street Station - clubs, restaurants
Busch Gardens
Tacky tourist traps all along I. Drive

I fry pretty easily and don't want skin cancer like dad so hanging out at the
beaches/waterparks a lot isn't my idea of fun.  Besides we can do that at
home.   

As for Busch, yup, I'd say they pay incredible attention to detail even though
they don't have the best assortment of thrill rides around.

But more importantly they don't RIP YOU OFF like Walt & Company.  No $7 
hamburgers and $30 cheapo souvenirs!   And the staff is pleasant without
being STEPFORD plastic!   

Gawd, I was so sick of hearing "The platform you're about to step onto is
moving at the same rate of speed as the car you are leaving" and "Please
chose a row and move all the way to the end, leaving no empty seats"

Oh yeah...and I'd say I did most all there was to do in Bermuda in 4 days too...
let me off that island!

When I do three-week trips it is to places like Australia or Europe.  Why go
see Walt's warped view of the world when you can see the real thing!  :^)

/jen (who likes to cover a lot of ground on vaca!)

    
    Just for the record, I never go into Orlando and do anything else
    but Disney.  I guess different strokes for different folks but I found
    Busch and Sea World real chintzy.
    
    And I never get food at the fast-food stands at DW.  Agreed, that is
    a rip-off and its bad. 
    
    But Narcoosee's at the Grand Floridian serves an awesome lobster and
    you can get yards of beer.  The Empress Lily is a big Riverboat with
    each section of the ship a different restaurant.  The main room has
    some of the best French food you ever tried.  Porto Bello out at PI
    has the best garlic white pizza in the world.  The YAcht and Beach
    Club as some A-1 restaurants, too.  Breakfast on the Grand Floridian
    veranda was always nice.
    
    I guess to each his own.  I like it there.  It's expensive, for sure.
    That's why I haven't been able to get back since '92.  Still I'd
    rather save my pennies for that than half the other tourist traps
    in this country.
    
    - Sean

    
    	I could've sworn this was the Slayer note.
    

    Disney thinks their crap is ice cream, but for creating that seamless
    environment, they have nothing on the Busch folks!
    
    Hey Mikey, you goin to SFMM to ride Superman?

    	Now THAT sounds kinky...

C'mon Jen,

>When I do three-week trips it is to places like Australia or Europe. 

 I've lived in Australia for over 25 years and there are LOTS of places I haven't
seen - do you think that you could see the US in 3 weeks?? - and remember that if
you go to Australia its going to take you 2 days to get there, 2 days to get back, 
theres already over 1/2 a week vanished into thin air.

 When I go home I take 6 weeks, and even then I stay in Western Australia
(having said that though thats not very hard to do as the state is over 5 times 
the size of Texas).

 And that $6000 figure a few notes back.... is that for real??

 Nic

>>And that $6000 figure a few notes back.... is that for real??
	
	I might have exagerated a little bit, but all I know is that I've been
	there three times and it has never cost ME less than $100 US a day.

	Multiply that by 14 days and four people and well you do the math...

	Food, shelter entrance to each park, and three dollar soda's add up.

	Oh yeah fly the four of you there and back...even from Boston to
	Orlando that's $800.00 right there, now stay in the park and pay
	147.00 per night, goodbye 1900.00, 80.00 for a four day pass per 
	person, 320./4 days spent milling around, now go to Wet and Wild
	Universal, and Church St station, what's that 100. per day for the
	family.....

	And don't forget the T-shirts for your little brothers back home at 
	25.00 a pop

	/Cap'n Quad

    
    	$80 for a 4-day pass?
    
    	I would bet that that number is low.
    

    
    My folks got 4-day passes (hopper) for under $150 with retired
    discounts....I am still looking to get my tickets soon! Have to call
    today about it! I only need 2 days worth of tickets...have to check
    this out.
    
    

    
    	The last time I was at Disney World, I believe the 1-day tickets
    	were $8 each.  However, that was in 1975.  8^)
    
    	I believe that a 1-day ticket is close to $50 now.
    

    
    how about that hot rockin' band Slayer?
    
    
    ..any thoughts about them?
    
    
    						Ian

    
    	Who're they?  And why would you want to discuss them in the
    	Disney World/Land topic?
    

    
    
    is Kerry King with one with the big black round ears....kinda mousey
    looking.? 
    
    
    					Ian 8)

    RE: Slab & Goldie
    
    	Ha...you guys are killin' me!
    
    And I think you're think of the one with the bill and the speech
    impediment! 
    
    	|||||
         O O
          ^
         \_/
    
    		J 

    
    
    bill...speech inpedement??  Jeff Hanneman?
    
    
    					Ian

    Uhm...OK it was more of a schlurrrred speech impediment...and "bill" as
    in duck, not currency or a name.
    
     

    
    I picked up the latest CD from these guys on friday. i haven't had a
    chance to listen to it, but I did read the liner notes. There is only
    one original song on the entire CD. There are 11 or 12 songs and the CD
    is about 35 minutes long. 
    When I looked at the songlist credits, almost all of the songs were
    written by people I've never heard of. I figure it's some sort of
    'tribute to punk/metal bands that we listened to when we were younger'
    type of CD.
    
    Anyone have any info on it??
    
    Dave
     

Re. Dave

I have just read here and there about Slayer's new CD. What I've seen
were very favorable opinions. Most of the songs are covers of punk music from
less well known bands.

Sorin

    
    Thanks for the info Sorin.
    
    Well I finally gave the new one a spin. Overall not too bad.
    The first two tracks are straight ahead speed/punk mix. 
    The only original track sounds like typical Slayer.
    There is one song that is kinda funny called Richard Hung Himself.
    The production, except for the original song, doesn't seem to be there.
    I couldn't put my finger on it, but it just didn't sound right.
     
    There are 14 tracks and the entire CD is 33 minutes 04 seconds long.
    Not very long at all. Most tracks are around 2 min. It's worth picking
    up, but try and get it on sale or at less then normal price. These days
    paying full price for 33 minutes of music is ludicrous.
    
    Dave
     
    

    The new slayer is good but I think they tried to show off their new
    drummer a little too much. The new stuff sounds kinda mutteled
    together.
    
    -BG

    
    Their new drummer isn't all that new. He's been in the band for over
    two years, at least. (I think)
    
    Dave
    

    He has but Divine Intervention is the only album they've done with him.
    Although I did see them in concert and he did a good job at all the
    older songs.
    
    -BG

    
    Was the new guy on the Judgement Night soundtrack tune Disorder w/ Ice
    T.?
    
    Dave
    

    Don't know, but...
    
    Good evening Dave!  Nice to see you again.
    
    Paully 8)
    

    
    Geez, quit KISSin' up will ya!!
    
    
    Ok ok ok ok I have an extra tix for ya.
    Now leave me alone Paully. 8)
    
    Dave
    

If I understood well from somewhere in the news groups, the drummer on
Undisputed Attitude was still Paul Bostaph and not the new one.
It was better maybe for Paul to stay with Forbidden which was/is? one of the
very best thrash/speed metal bands.
I've seen the CD here announced with a second bonus CD (three live songs). I
have to think if I'll buy it before or after Metallica's (or if I'll buy
it at all). A 33 mins CD is really short by today's standards.

Sorin

    
    Paul Bostaph is listed in the liner notes as the drummer.
    Were they planning on dumping him too? Cuz he is a great drummer.
    He's well suited to Slayer's music style. 
    
    Although I don't see why they dumped Dave Lombardo... he's still awesome.
    
    Dave
    

    
    re: .185
    
    Sorin,
    
    Get your hands on Iced Earth 'Burnt Offerings'. They drummer there is
    pretty impressive with his double-bass speed kickin'! This guy must
    have legs of iron to maintain like that! Unless he is using some sort
    of effects, but he is pretty good! Some decent rools in there too
    during some of the songs! As for Bostaph, I thought he was in Forbidden
    on the Distortion cd? Decent thrash/speed metal, but At the Gates does
    some thrashy stuff too! As for Iced Earth, but also some good slower
    stuff too with time changes and all.
    
    Mike
    

    Lombardo was king.
    
    -BG