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| 140.1 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Await the Awakening | Sun Jul 10 1988 19:31 | 24 |
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I use:
Home :
Denon receiver, Sony tape player, BSR CD player,
Criterion 2002+ speakers.
Car :
Alpine receiver, Alpine eq, Alpine crossover,
Alpine amplifier, Pioneer speakers, ALPINE ALARM!
:-)
Coming soon, Pyle subwoofers with a Nakamici
amplifier.
Total home power: 120 watts
Total car power: 140 watts (380 after subs)
Anybody got some spare earplugs?
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| 140.2 | Blow your face out ! | NINJA::COOPER | Bag it, Mr. Boo-Boo! | Mon Jul 11 1988 11:52 | 10 |
| Home:
LXI receiver, LXI Cassette, Technics TT, Toshiba CD, Realistic 12
band eq, Ultra Acoustic Speakers...
Car:
I dunno, Chrysler Auto-reverse, with 5 band eq, 6 speaker unit.
It cranks.
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| 140.3 | Well, *I* like it... | HAZEL::STARR | You ain't nothin' but fine, fine, fine! | Mon Jul 11 1988 11:53 | 21 |
| Home:
Technics Receiver - 35 watts/channel (more than enough) - this unit
is 12 years old, and has never failed me yet!
Technics turntable - Adequate - definitely direct drive
Technics CD player - next time, I'm buying a Sony, This is the first
Technics product that I am not totally happy with.
Fischer speakers - They are these big mothers that I bought 12 years
ago. Haven't found anything better since, except at
an outrageous price.
Car:
Delco - AM/FM radio - After 3 stolen cars and five break-ins to steal
my tapes, I've stopped having a good sound system in my car.
I'm sick of replacing my tape collection every year or so.
As you can tell, once I find something I like, I'll usually stick with it
until it it falls apart. I am so used to the sound of my stereo now (I've
had the receiver and speakers since the beginning of high school), that I
can't find anything I like.
cat
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| 140.4 | Scarysound Inc. | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Rebel without a pause ... | Mon Jul 11 1988 12:24 | 21 |
| Home:
Reciever - Akai 100W/Channel, soft touch everything, no knobs,and
more lights (led's) than Christmas !
Equalizer - Realistic 14 band.
Compact Disc - Technics CD player, nice unit.
Tape Decks - Onkyo double deck with high speed dubbing. Sharp
tape deck, good for playing only (cost $75 new).
Speakers - Advent bookshelve speakers (8" woofer, 2" tweeter).
Handle about 80W before they start breaking up. Also
have 2 "homemade" speaker cabs with Realistic guts,
12" woofer, 6" midrange, and 3" tweeter in each.
Car:
Roadmaster (megacheap) AM/FM Cassette and Roadmaster speakers.
It'll do in a rush ................
Mr Scary II
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| 140.5 | All this *togetherness!* | PLEXUS::V5REGISTRAR | | Mon Jul 11 1988 16:01 | 23 |
| Mine is sort of a combined effort. My SO and I are moving to
California (if we ever get there!!), so we have been building our
"entertainment center" together. Currently, it is located at his
house, but most of the ownership honors go to me:
Home (Even if it is *his* home): Sony receiver, don't know the
model, but I know it cost us an arm and a leg. It does everything
known to man and more. Sony CPD550 CD player, Sony 550 double cassette
deck, Technics turntable that we got before we decided to go Sony
instead. As soon as we replace it (it's only a year old!) we'll
have everything going to one remote, which is nice. We're pretty
happy with all of it and don't regret buying Sony a bit.
(My) Pulsar: Pioneer Supertuner K-somethingorother AM/FM cassette.
Not too loud, but better than the Clarion that came in it. I am
going to try to get a powerbooster or something. I like my music
*deafening!*
(His) Astro Van: Alpine something or other w/auto reverse and all
that. Pioneer speakers. Something between the van's acoustics
and the stereo make it sound great. It's awesome.
Stacie
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| 140.6 | | BUSY::SMCCORMICK | Tear down the wall! | Thu Jul 14 1988 17:22 | 23 |
|
Home:
Receiver: Onkyo TX65, real nice unit, 65watt/channel
Dynamic bass expander, 16 presets, and a
few other goodies.
Turntable: Technics, Quartz drive.
Tape deck: Sony, nothing fancy
CD: Technics, real nice, no problems sounds great!
Speakers: Technics SBX500 (Honeycomb) 130 watts of
pure listening pleasure.
Car:
Stock Delco unit, quoting Slab:(with all the
buttons)
Scott.
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| 140.7 | Stereos of the Gods | HSSWS1::GREG | Walking on water... again. | Mon Jul 18 1988 01:27 | 10 |
|
Home (or anywhere, for that matter) SONY DT3 (CD/AM/FM)
MR2: stock AM/FM/Cassette
I'm not the hit of the beach party, but I'm never very
far from my tunes.
-=[MOSAT]=-
(call me Mr, Hi-Fi)
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| 140.8 | A sad story indeed! | ANT::TURBA | How sweet, Fresh meat! | Fri Aug 26 1988 09:57 | 30 |
|
Home: Technics Quartz tuned sumthin-or-other 50 watt per channel
reciever. It's got alot of buttons.
Technics cassette deck.
Teac dual cassette deck (so i can tape and still listen)
Adc equalizer.
technics turntable.
Car: Epi high power auto reverse am/fm cassette player.
Pioneer 75 watt speakers.
Used to have:
Alping stero cassette thru a pioneer power/equilizer
coming out of 2 panasonic 50 watt door speakers and
2 150 watt jensen tri-axels!!
That was the balls, pushing a good 130 watts, then
on day it all got smoked!!!!!!
I hooked the power booster to the cirgerette
lighter,since I don't smoke nothing happened. Then my
brother, who smokes, pushed in the lighter and ZAPPPPP!!!
My power booster smoked, and 1 speaker blew.
Boo Hoo! F.M.
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| 140.11 | Try thius again. I lost Network path twice ! | BTO::BAGDY_M | An armour plated raging beast... | Fri Aug 26 1988 10:34 | 25 |
|
Luxman Receiver 40Watt per channel (Alpine line of home equip.)
Technics turntable
Teac Cassette with Dolby B/C/Dbx
Technics SL-JP1 CD player
Fischer 75Watt RMS speakers
Since I live in a rather small apartment, this is more than enough
to blow some windows out. Specially when playing Judas Priest and
since my plants started to die I've turned the volume down. They're
holding their own now..... :^)
In my car, well....used to run a Sanyo AM/FM/Cassette with Dolby
B/C. 25 Watts per channel, with a 60Watt Power booster/graphic
equalizer. All this through two front speakers (5" round) rated
to 75Watts RMS (Jensen double cone) and two 6X9 Jensen Tri-axials
rated at 100Watts RMS. All in a Jeep Wrangler.....BUT ! Since
I traded the Jeep in and got a Chevy Beretta, I run the standard
Delco/Bose set they sell. Four speakers - AM stereo/FM stereo
Cassette with five band graphic equalizer all built in. If I
remember the paperwork correctly, it all runs about 55Watts RMS
output from the speakers. Not bad for Delco since they paired up
with Bose. It serves the purpose !
METALord"
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| 140.12 | Detroit Bangs heads ? | NINJA::COOPER | I got the tone, He's got the bone ! | Fri Aug 26 1988 11:02 | 5 |
| Has any noticed that some of the stock car stereos in the past few years
really kick major ass ? Damn ! Like I said in a previous reply, my standard
Chrysler stereo cranks !
jc
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| 140.14 | Just got my subs! | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | I see your schwartz is as big as mine! | Fri Aug 26 1988 13:07 | 14 |
|
Re: .1
Just got the subwoofers, now for the amplifier to
drive them. In case anybody is interested, I
have the 3321 eq/crossover, 3528 amplifier, 7179
receiver and Pioneer TS-6944 6x9 three-ways (120
watts each) and a pair of Pioneer 5.5" in the
front (at 100 watts each). For the subs, I have
a pair of Fender 15" 2803's.
- Rob
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| 140.15 | My beach, my wave | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Big Yolanda will get YOU! | Fri Aug 26 1988 16:38 | 19 |
| I have:
Home:
-Techniques 25 watts/channel digital receiver, not an awesome amount
of power, but sounds good.
-Fisher speakers (don't remember the model)
-Aiwa autoreverse cassette deck
-Techniques turntable
Auto:
Sony digital am/fm/cassette w/4 speakers (don't know what kind,
but they're about blown anyway)
Hey, nothing fancy, but it all works and meets my needs.
gh
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| 140.16 | Relocated note | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Knock 'em dead | Wed Nov 30 1988 01:15 | 36 |
| <<< IRDEV::SYS$SYSDEVICE:[NOTES$LIBRARY]HEAVY_METAL.NOTE;2 >>>
-< Heavy_Metal - not just a conference ... it's a state of mind!! >-
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Note 371.0 Who knows car speakers??? No replies
RAVEN1::ROSENBERG 28 lines 29-NOV-1988 18:13
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< THAT'S THE WAY I WANNA ROCK AND ROLL >
Well after writing my first note to find out about SMASHED
GLADYS I felt compeled to write another one to see if anyone else
who likes to listen to their R&R at metal warping volumes can help
me. I just installed a new Alpine dual pre-amp deck in my 72 Monte
carlo. I have a 20 watt sherwood amp for the frount speakers and
an alpine 60 watt amp for the back. I'm very happy with the volume
that I'm getting but the speakers rattel and buzz when the sound
is turned up to an acceptable head banging level.
Can anyone else who listens to LOUD LOUD LOUD R&R please give
me any suggestions on what kind of speakers will satisfy my need
for extreme volumes.
Also before I leave this note let me say a few word about DOLBY
C. If you can record and play back in dolby c DO IT. The clarity
is excellent!!! And the tape hiss is almost non-exsistent. I thought
that it sounded as good as some car CD players that I have heard.
Well help me if you can and if you can't I hope I've helped
you
tanks
Ray(legs up)
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| 140.17 | Ask Rob Rothberg..his is sorta loud... | BUSY::KELLY | Eradicate the fascists.. 291-9089 | Wed Nov 30 1988 02:23 | 12 |
|
Rob...???
But seriously....try using foam rubber. I had that prob so
what I did was cut a hole big enough for the cone (or magnetic)
end of the speaker to fit through then mounter speaker,foam,then
car material....understand. Use the F-rubber as a shock absorber.
It worked for me.
Bk
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| 140.18 | Boy, am I a show-off when it comes to Stereo Equipment | EUCLID::OWEN | In a Locst wind coms a RATTLE AND HUM | Wed Nov 30 1988 11:08 | 47 |
| Ok, This is what I've got
Home-
Klipsch kg4 speakers (the most Kick-ass rock and roll speakers
ever made, check them out at tweeter's)
Kenwood Reciever (35w/ch)
Sony 5 Disc Carousel CD changer with Shuffle Play
TEAC 10band/ch equalizer with Spectrum analizer
Dual Turntable (Excellent Stuff, IMO)
Hitachi single Tape Deck (Very Nice)
Lots of Monster Cable (about 30')
And In addition to all that stuff, I also have (to drive a second
pair of speakers used to 1) really crank it up 2) Drive the sound
from my computer {which is an Amiga and Has Stereo outputs for games
and music}
Techniches (I hate spelling that word) Preamp
Tech...... Amp (25w/ch)
Fisher Speakers
I also have Monster Cable for these speakers too
To play on all of that stuff, I have almost 200 CDs (winning 56
from WBCN really helped!) about 180 tapes and about 75 albums.
and Now for MY CAR-
Kenwood Powered Reciever (15w/ch x 4 channels)
2 Kenwood 6" x 9" speakers
2 Kenwood 5" Speakers
Now, as you may have noticed, I take my music VERY seriously. Someday
I hope to have a home system (including Video) that would be worth
about $20K. In the meantime, I'll be happy with what I have.
Steve O
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| 140.19 | | 26922::WROTHBERG | Take hold of the flame! | Wed Nov 30 1988 20:51 | 25 |
|
Well, my home system isn't *THAT* great, but car . . .
Anyway, first of all, make sure that your speakers are mounted solidly.
Secondly, the speakers may not be your problem, are you overdriving
your amp? If you crank up your stereo all the way, the amp IS going
to distort, I'm good at doing that. Also, you can blow your speakers
pretty easily if you constantly do it. At the moment (until I get
my new amp in), I'm driving about 35x4 into speakers rated at 100
and 120 watts each. I've gone through 5 100watt speakers and 1
120watt just by overdriving my amp. If you are looking for loudness,
you may also want to try some more efficient speakers, whcih is
usually cheaper than another amp. ADS makes some very nice speakers
(also $$$ though). If it's the bass that's the problem, and you
don't mind investing some $$$, then go for some subwoofers. That
will also mean another amp, the subs and a crossover (mine ran about
$1500-1700 for a set of 15" subs driven by 500watts and an Alpine
11 band eq with a builtin crossover). I may be getting ahead of
you here though. Anyway, my 2 points. Don't overdrive the amp
and make sure speakers are solidly mounted.
- Rob who wants to hit 4digit wattage numbers and 135+ db -
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| 140.20 | Oh, Sony KV-25XBR stereo TV also <- AWESOME! | ZL1::WILLIAMS | | Sat Dec 03 1988 20:52 | 48 |
|
O.K. here's my set-up...
HOME:
JVC RX-950V Audio/Video receiver :: AM/FM (duh) and handles
TV, 3 video/vcr's, 2 tape decks, turntable, CD, and aux. Has way
too many built in goodies to list. 125 watts / .003% THD.
JVC XL-M700 7-disc CD player :: rated as the best multidisk
player. Fully programmable and has a random selection that can
end and start a song in about 8 seconds while changing from one
CD to another.
SPL 4000 Monitor's (Canadian made tower speakers) :: Can handle
150 watts each. Excellent rock speakers. Has anyone else listened
to these speakers?? I found them here in CO Springs and fell in
love with their sound. Also got a hell of a deal on them. But
I have never even heard of the brand name before.
For those who are wondering why I went with JVC, it is because
their components (if you get their best one's) interconnnect greatly!
I can use the receiver remote to run EVERY one of their components!
It's really a trip! ... I'll hold off on a cassette deck until
the world figures out which way the cassette industry is going...
CAR:
Jensen RE512 digital receiver/cassette deck. Old but one of
the best of it's days. Still looks and sounds better than some
of the new ones. Except for that damn touchy volume button. I've
had many a speaker blown up from people trying to turn up the volume!
Tancredi TE100 7-band eq/bst. Usually found for sale at those
weekend madness sales in some hotel's basement. Think I paid like
$50! This thing can not be beaten for the price! [Hey, why spend
$20K when you can get the same thing for $10K and then have the
bucks left over for more toys!]
Pioneer TS-X20 bass reflex 3-way box speakers. DON'T EVER
BUY THESE SPEAKERS!!! They are great advertisement for theives!
I had a butthead break into my car at the '87 Indy 500 - the first
week I had them in my rear window! Great sound but try to hide
them.
Hammer.
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| 140.21 | go Alpine, and don't worry about it | CAINE::MINARDI | | Tue Dec 06 1988 10:28 | 16 |
|
If you had a smaller car, where mounting 6x9s is a problem,
I would have suggested you pick up a pair of Altec Lansing
plate speakers for the rear, like I did for my Scirocco.
They're about 250.00, but are super for their size, and beg
to be abused to the tune of 100w, (which is TOTALLY ridiculous
for a car stereo). But you've got that monstrous Monte, so
you can go with 55 gallon drum sized speakers.
Wrothberg, don't you have "protection" for your speakers and
amps, to keep you from blowing them all the time?
I use Alpine amps for the front and rear speakers, so distortion
is not a problem for me. I have cranked up my stereo past the
threshold of pain, and not noticed a bit of distortion.
Alpine is awesome.
/Motorbreath
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| 140.22 | (And it's not Wrothberg) | 26959::ROTHBERG | Voices are calling me - blinded! | Tue Dec 06 1988 13:56 | 17 |
|
Nah, no protection. I hate my speakers, so I
don't really care about blowing them up. Once I
put some nice ones in, then I'll worry about it.
I'm probably going to go with some a/d/s. The
pioneers are okay, but not up to par with the
rest of the equipment in the car.
- Rob
BTW, 100watts isn't ridiculous, I have 140 now
and have another 500 sitting in my room just for
the pair or 15" subwoofers that are also sitting
in my room!
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| 140.23 | Some like it REAL loud | CAINE::MINARDI | | Tue Dec 06 1988 19:27 | 16 |
|
> it's not Wrothberg
no sh*t. I thought it looked kind of cool, so that's what I called
you.
I'd like to see any normal hearing person sit in a car, with a
full 100 watts of power going to each speaker and live the rest
of their life as a normal hearing person afterwards.
If you've got 100w split between four speakers, then I
suppose it's not too excessive.
/Motorbreath... that's LOUD!!
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| 140.24 | How to shatter a hatchback | 26959::ROTHBERG | Voices are calling me - blinded! | Wed Dec 07 1988 13:56 | 22 |
|
Just trying to avoid confusion 'cause there is a
Pfloyd::Wrothberg, but it's a totally different
person.
My stereo is like this :
A
l---------[< 35 watts
p---------[< 35 watts
i---------[< 35 watts
n---------[< 35 watts
e
_________ 15" sub (250 watts)
Concord -----<
--------- 15" sub (250 watts)
Total = 640 watts . . .
:`)
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| 140.25 | JBL Studio speakers | HAZEL::STARR | Like a fool, fell in love with you... | Thu May 11 1989 15:59 | 14 |
| I got a question for y'all. I could ask this in the AUDIO notesfile, but that
thing is *huge*, and I don't feel like wading through it....
Anways, I heard some speakers the other day that I *really* liked - they
pumped out Queensryche at intense volumes, with absolutely no distortion. It
was amazing!!!
Anyways, they were part of the JBL Studio Series, and I think the Model number
was 4012, or something close to that.
Anyone know anything about these speakers? And the biggest question - how
much would they cost???
cat
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| 140.26 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | as the 1% rules in America | Thu May 11 1989 16:23 | 11 |
|
Actually, you might be better off in the AUDIO
conference. Really doesn't take that long to
search for a title, but most people add new notes
in there without looking. Nobody complains
either. Very strange after reading CARBUFFS all
the time.
- Rob -
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| 140.28 | The ones I've got | EUCLID::OWEN | You Are the Everything | Thu May 11 1989 18:07 | 8 |
| re .25
Alan,
I don't know how much they are, but If you want a pair of real clean,
loud, speakers with great bass response check out a pair of KLIPSCH
KG4's. Great ROCK speakers! They are about $450/pr.
Steve O
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| 140.29 | | HAZEL::STARR | Like a fool, fell in love with you... | Thu May 11 1989 18:40 | 17 |
| A *quick* response from the AUDIO file, FYI....
<<< DSSDEV::PUBLIC$:[NOTES$LIBRARY]AUDIO.NOTE;2 >>>
-< The Emperor's New Audio >-
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Note 1092.5 ANY INFO ON JBL SPEAKERS?? 5 of 5
STROKR::DEHAHN 8 lines 11-MAY-1989 14:06
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JBL 4412's are small 'studio monitors', not home speakers. They are not
especially accurate, they tend to be bright and sizzly at the high end
and loose at the bottom. Last time I checked a price schedule they were
around $800-900/pr.
CdH
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| 140.30 | also an Audiophile | PNO::HEISER | B#, don't Bb, you'll B(natural) | Thu May 11 1989 23:19 | 8 |
| Klipsch has a reputation of being one of the most efficient speakers
on the market. Efficient in the fact that they don't waste much
power, what you put in is what you get out!
Do a SET SEEN after you enter your note, that way you won't have
to read the whole thing.
Mike
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| 140.31 | great demostration in Tweeter once... | EUCLID::OWEN | You Are the Everything | Fri May 12 1989 12:51 | 6 |
| I've seen the KLIPSCHORNS (the huge corner speakers) demonstrated
by powering them from the headphone jack of a walkman. I was very
impressed!
Steve O
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| 140.32 | Little guys, but tuff... | ASAHI::COOPER | Shattered Dreamz | Fri May 19 1989 17:49 | 5 |
| Advent make a pretty nice pair of towers... Not too much bux either...
They seem to like Metallica too...Or should I say they can handle
Metallica with out destructing...
jc
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| 140.33 | I need LOUDNESS!!! (reasonably cheap loudness..) | MCIS2::AKINS | The answer to the meaning of life is...`Why?' | Tue May 23 1989 03:29 | 19 |
| As you probably figured out from my former p-name that I just
got a Soundstream headunit. I am planning on selecting each piece
of for my car very carefully. So what type of suggestions do you
folks have to make that thing really crank some clear tunes. I
have thought about some Co-ax in the back (Brand I'm not sure of
yet.) with a sub blasting through the back seat ( with about 50w
amp driving it.). I am also thinking of a nice 5" co-ax in the
front with a directional tweeter. Any good names....
The guy that is helping me pick the stuff out is an EE Major at
U-Lowell and he's been into audio for about 10 years. He doesn't
listen to Metal that much and he's having some thoughts on what
we really need in the thing without causing anything to blow up
or without causing sonic structual damage to the car.
Any help would be appreciated....
The Rebel..
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| 140.34 | Well, not really cheap, but cost/db is pretty low! | EUCLID::OWEN | I believe in a Celebration | Tue May 23 1989 11:54 | 13 |
| Re -.1
Go to TWEETER (if you live in New England) and check out the
ROSFORD FOSGATE (SP?)
system there. It simply has to be heard to be believed! The
Crossovers for the speakers are on the speakers themselves. On
one 22 Watt/Ch amp, it drove a large bass sub-woofer box, 2 woofers,
4 midrange, and 2 tweeters, and was the most incredible sound system
for a car that I've ever heard.
Steve O
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| 140.35 | | ANT::SLABOUNTY | The word for today is legs ... | Tue May 23 1989 13:37 | 10 |
|
RE: Rebel
Come on over to DSSDEV::AUDIO with Rob Rothberg and
I - I'm just startin' to do the same thing.
Hit KP7 to add to your notebook.
GTI
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| 140.36 | Then there are cheaper ways ... | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | HELLO?? ..mindcrime... | Tue May 23 1989 18:29 | 17 |
|
Rockford Fosgate definately makes some nice amps,
but they are *BIG* bucks. The best way to go
(also the most expensive) is to take the head
unit (I used to have a Soundstream TC301), run
that to an equalizer, run that to an octave
parametric equalizer, run that to an active
crossover, run that toat least two amps,
preferrably 3. Medium amp to drive a pair of
seperates in the front, smallest amp to drive
seperates in back, big amp (either mono or
stereo) to drive subwoofers. Viola! Hearing aid
time!
- Rob who hit 127 dB SPL -
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| 140.37 | Mine's a TC301 also... | MCIS2::AKINS | The answer to the meaning of life is...`Why?' | Wed May 24 1989 05:33 | 18 |
| Rob...If I did that I think Metallica on Cd would blow the Toy
into shrapnel. I have such a small space inside the car it will
be easier to hit the louder levels then in a bigger car. On the
other hand it is so tightly packed together I don't have much room
for speakers...
Shawn...
Thanks for the pointer to the audio file but since my manager is
taken away notes for all off shift employees I won't have much time
for it. One week tops....
Steve....
I've heard mixed reviews about those. I know that they are great
but I heard that they aren't worth as much as you pay for them.
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| 140.38 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | HELLO?? ..mindcrime... | Wed May 24 1989 15:14 | 12 |
|
If you want the best amp for the money, I'd vote
for Concord. Usually runs about $1.25-$1.50 a
watt instead of $2.00-$2.50 watt (which is what
you'll pay for Alpine, a/d/s/, Rockford Fosgate,
Nakamichi, Soundstream, etc). I'm running a 500
watt Concord on the subs, and I have no
complaints. 400 stereo/500 mono cost me $525.
- Rob -
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| 140.39 | Wattage can be deceiving | EUCLID::OWEN | I believe in a Celebration | Wed May 24 1989 16:13 | 6 |
| I try not to judge by wattage. A 15W/Ch alpine will blow away a
100W/ch jensen. The Alpine is louder, tighter, and much more accurate.
Wattage is an important stat. but it's not that important.
Steve O
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| 140.40 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | HELLO?? ..mindcrime... | Wed May 24 1989 16:23 | 21 |
|
Sort of true, but not quite. If they are both
100 watts RMS, and both used with the same pair
of speakers, they SHOULD produce the same SPL,
but of course it doesn't quite work that way as
the Jensen amp will distort long before the
Alpine and that will reduce effiency of the amp
and also possibly damage the speakers.
Concord CA200.2 vs Fosgate Power 650 Mosfet
Distortion: .06% vs. .05%
S/N ratio: >100dB vs. >80dB (means nothing)
Slew rate: both 15V/uS
Price: $525 vs. somewhere around $1200
I would have given more specs but that's all I
have on Fosgate.
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| 140.41 | I oughta be a salesman for these guys | AYNRND::REILLY | Instant Pink Floyd! Just add Waters | Wed May 24 1989 20:03 | 16 |
|
Mere toys........ :^)
Harmon Kardon makes the best car equipment around. I'll get the
specs when I go home, but I've researched far and wide. You don't
find better sounding amps - no distortion, extremely high current.
But.... big bucks, and you don't find them in every Tom, Dick, and
Tweeter stereo store either.
Their 60 Watt amps blow away most 200 Watt amps because they are
*very* conservative with their ratings (none of this "peak" stuff,
they know people come to them for the best, they don't have to
pad the numbers).
SEAN/BEER=LABATTS
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| 140.42 | Nothing but the finast. | RAIN::DIBIASI | CYBERNETIC HEARTBEAT | Thu May 25 1989 03:46 | 10 |
|
You got it dude.I have a Harmon Kardon tape deck in my car.The system
also includes a Linear equalizer,Pyle Driver speakers and a Hyphonics
Thor 250 watt rms amp.This system is bad for the heart.If you've
ever listened to Motorhead or Metallica at this sound level..........
DEEBS
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| 140.43 | SPL'ed at 127 dB | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | HELLO?? ..mindcrime... | Thu May 25 1989 05:35 | 18 |
|
Oh no, are we going to start a stereo contest in
notes? Deebs, you'll lose :`).
Harmon Cardon used to be a big name in home
equipment, but there are many companies that
smoke them now. I'm haven't heard much about
their car audio equipment, but if you have a
catalog or an address or tel no so I could get
one, I'd appreciate it. I'm always looking for a
new catalog.
- Rob who is running an Alpine head, Alpine Eq,
Alpine Xover, Alpine seperates, Alpine 4x35 amp,
Concord 1x500 amp and a pair of 15" subs -
:`)
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| 140.44 | $5k system in a $2k car..... | MCIS2::AKINS | The answer to the meaning of life is...`Why?' | Thu May 25 1989 06:01 | 7 |
| A contest huh.....
Well maybe I'll expand my budget a little more....
Have you guys ever entered on of those contests?
The Rebel
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| 140.45 | PS, that's about what I've spent so far, Bill (-.1) | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | HELLO?? ..mindcrime... | Thu May 25 1989 17:06 | 15 |
|
I haven't yet with this system. Actually, I was
supposed to be with my last system, but the
amplifier (I only had one at the time) blew the
day before on the way home from the beach. I'll
be in a couple this year though. Cuomo's Crank
It Up should be coming soon. I don't expect to
win, just doing it for the hell of it. I have to
balance out my sound up front first to overcome
the bass, which means another amp. I may go with
an a/d/s/ PQ20 running KEF seperates up front.
- Rob -
|
| 140.46 | | MCIS2::AKINS | The answer to the meaning of life is...`Why?' | Fri May 26 1989 03:40 | 4 |
| What type of affect does 127 db sound have on windows and ears...
The Rebel
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| 140.47 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | HELLO?? ..mindcrime... | Fri May 26 1989 23:43 | 12 |
|
A very bad one. Rattling windows (and louvres
and license plates), and heads turn 2 or 3 blocks
down the road. I wear earplugs when I'm at the
beach :`). Threshhold of pain is 120dB. Human
ear can only stand 15min/day at 120dB before
being permanently damaged (or something close to
that, I read it in the AUDIO conference).
- Rob -
|
| 140.48 | Machines make noise | KETJE::VLASIU | Try with a bigger hammer | Thu Dec 07 1989 08:34 | 18 |
| Here's my machinery:
JVC amplifier.
JVC tuner.
Sony CDPM-50 CD player.
Technics RS-B605 cassette recorder with Dolby HX Pro, B, C and dbx.
dbx is THE NR for heavy metal as it reproduces the dynamics like on CD
and let the quiet passages like on CD (no tape hiss)..but for the car
I use no NR (just the HX Pro implicitely).
B&W DM 110i loudspeakers (75W ?).
AKAI VS-77 HI FI VCR (beats the cassette but I find the VHS cassettes too big
and uneasy to manoeuver).
Sennheiser 540 headphones (once you hear them you cannot live without - but
take care, they are much more powerful and resistant than your ears !).
A simple Sony Walkman.
In the car a Blaupunkt radio-cassette with 4 loudspeakers.
Sorin
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| 140.49 | | BUFFER::GOLDSMITH | Morals make me laugh | Thu Dec 07 1989 12:41 | 6 |
| .47 Rob-
I know it was an old reply, but I have to ask how loud 120db is. In
comparison to...
Steve
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| 140.50 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | I do not like green eggs and ham... | Thu Dec 07 1989 21:31 | 8 |
|
ummm... let me see if i can find the chart from
audio... be back shortly...
- rob who hopes to be up about 140db when he
builds his new subwoofer enclosure -
|
| 140.51 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | I do not like green eggs and ham... | Thu Dec 07 1989 22:09 | 8 |
|
Hmmmm.... can't seem to find it. i posted a
note for a pointer, and used search to scan
through an extracted directory. i should find it
tomorrow.
cheers, rob
|
| 140.52 | | IOSG::PERKINS | The Lords of the New Creatures | Fri Dec 08 1989 07:15 | 4 |
|
140 db!!!!
OHMIGOD!
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| 140.53 | Ow!! | BUFFER::GOLDSMITH | Like a kiss from the lips of Ra | Fri Dec 08 1989 14:46 | 8 |
| Rob??
Hello??
What did you say?? Can you even hear at all? Like, 120db isn't
enough. 140!! Talk about metal up your a$$!!!! :-)
Steve
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| 140.54 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | I do not like green eggs and ham... | Fri Dec 08 1989 15:19 | 18 |
|
I'm still waiting for a pointer in AUDIO, but at
the moment, the highest reading I've achieved is
129db. I've been reading a lot about enclosures
lately, and am surprised at the SPL increase
associated with the proper box. I built my own
box, and at the time, I knew nothing about
enclosures, so it's just a box, not even sealed
and definately not ported properly. With a
correct box, I hope to gain from 6-12db, so I may
hit the 140 mark, but if not, should come very
close :').
Cheers, What?
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| 140.55 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | The 16V, 240watt antenna mobile. | Fri Apr 06 1990 16:18 | 12 |
|
I finally fixed my portable CD player!!
I dropped it during the winter, and it then skipped at about
35 minutes into every disc I played.
I tore it apart and greased the worm gear ... no luck. Last
night I took it apart again and greased the other 2 gears,
and now it's back to normal (so far).
GTI
|
| 140.56 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | The 16V, 240watt antenna mobile. | Fri Apr 06 1990 19:45 | 11 |
|
Well, maybe it's not fixed yet.
Now the ******* thing skips at about 7 minutes into the
disc, which would indicate a problem with the OTHER end
of the gear now.
Oh well ... back to the drawing board.
GTI
|
| 140.57 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Fri Apr 06 1990 19:55 | 2 |
| i was wondering how greasing a gear could fix it considering how it
broke...
|
| 140.58 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | The 16V, 240watt antenna mobile. | Fri Apr 06 1990 20:00 | 9 |
|
But it DID fix the skip that was towards the end of the
discs ... and somehow transferred it to the beginning of
the discs.
I'll regrease the thing again and try it.
GTI
|
| 140.59 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | That girl is poison... | Sun Apr 08 1990 16:20 | 6 |
|
I don't think that's all Shawn's greasing...
:')
|
| 140.60 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Sun Apr 08 1990 17:56 | 1 |
| maybe a can of green spraypaint would help it out
|
| 140.61 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | The 16V, 240watt antenna mobile. | Mon Apr 09 1990 12:06 | 12 |
|
RE: Toenail
No green marker/spraypaint on MY CD's I'll tell ya ... I
don't believe that crap for a second.
RE: Rob
[insert nasty phrase here. 8^)]
GTI
|
| 140.62 | | BTOVT::BAGDY_M | | Wed Apr 18 1990 17:50 | 7 |
| 140.63 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | The 16V, 240watt antenna mobile. | Wed Apr 18 1990 17:59 | 11 |
|
Yeah, I know - it was winter, and I had my bulky gloves
on, and it slipped out of my hand.
Next time I'll let my fingers freeze, so I at least won't
drop anything!!
8^)
GTI
|
| 140.64 | Various inexpensive amps... | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | I want my license back!!! | Sun Jun 24 1990 05:32 | 77 |
|
What would we be reading if it wasn't an
emergency?
Taking evasive action!
As far as "low as reasonable", 3.5 watts/channel
is hardly what I would call reasonable. Most
head untis have more power than that. Let's see
wht else we have for that peice range...
For $80, we have the Alpine 3501 @ 2x13 watts,
s/n 90db, 20Hz-20KHz (which is really all you
need, desigining an amp to be totally sound
efficient beyond those specs is virtually
useless).
For $80, the Clarion200A 2x14, same specs as the
Alpine.
For $65 the Coustic AMP-100A 18x2 s/n 80db,
30Hz-20KHz (yuk!)
$65 will buy the Craig MA201 at an astounding
2x40 85db s/n 20Hz-20Khz...
$54 the FAS PA25 12.5x2 s/n 86db 20-20Khz
$59, the Harmon Kardon CA205 2x3.5 90db 10-100Khz
$70, Hi-Comp HCB-8036 18x2 80db 20-30Khz
$69, Jensen A-80 2x18 86db 20-30Khz
For $80, the Kraco... I'll skip this one (s/n
60db HAHAHHAHA!!)
$69, the LA Sound (believe it or not, a new audio
company) LP-1105 2x40 70db 20-20Khz or for $49
the same specs but 2x25
Majestic makes 3 with horrible specs (down to
50db s/n)
MEI PA-7220 2x16 75db 20-30khz
Metrosound 2x20 80db 20-30khz
Phoenix Gold MPH-6300 6x75 110db s/n 15-25khz for
$13,500... oops, how'd that get in here :')
Proton CA212 2x12 90db s/n 20-20Khz (I'd choose
this one over the HK) oh for $89
Radio Shack... nah... (Shawn's going, why
didn't he tell us??? :'))
Radion DAP-100 for $70 2x9 s/n 80, but even more
important than the 100Khz level, this has a freq
range of 15Hz-250KHz... :')
Sparkomatic actually has one in here with some
respectable specs, the AMP8000 for $90 2x45
10Hz-30Khz 100db s/n...
Yamaha YPA-100 2x12 20Hz-20Khz 100db s/n
So, the HK does have some good specs, but how can
you screw 'em up if there is no power? Absurd...
my choice would be the Alpine or the Proton
taking into account various experiences I've had
with several of these amps. The Sparkomatic has
some GREAT specs, but I haven't seen them winning
any soundoff competitions yet...
My $8.02...
|
| 140.65 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Erotic Nightmares | Mon Jun 25 1990 13:42 | 12 |
|
> Radio Shack... nah... (Shawn's going, why
> didn't he tell us??? :'))
OK, then I'll tell YOU: [8^)]
RS 12-1957 2x40watts, 20-25KHz for $80. S/N not given.
GTI
|
| 140.66 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | I want my license back!!! | Mon Jun 25 1990 16:47 | 9 |
|
Wise guy! :')
You must have the same directory! Did ya see the
Phoenix Gold amp I was talking about a couple of
months ago?!?
- Merlin -
|
| 140.67 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Erotic Nightmares | Mon Jun 25 1990 17:22 | 10 |
|
No, I have the RS catalog.
8^)
I remember you telling me about that 6x45 for $13K ... sounds
like alot to me. $48/watt? No thank you.
GTI
|
| 140.68 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Hemorrhoid from Hell | Fri Jul 20 1990 13:16 | 10 |
|
There will be a Mustang Saleen appearing at various Leiser
locations in the next week or so ... loaded with $15K worth
of Pioneer stereo equipment.
[No, the trunk isn't full of boxes ... I'm pretty sure it's
all wired in and working. 8^)]
GTI
|
| 140.69 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Only 13mo til I can drive again! | Fri Jul 20 1990 14:54 | 10 |
|
$15K on Pioneer?!? YUK!
Shawn, you oughtta see the Rockford Fosgate Van
($50K+ 4000 watts) or the Sony van (not sure what
this thing cost, but it had video DAT players on
board as well).
- Merlin -
|
| 140.70 | That should be 2 sets of 6255's... | CAVLRY::ROBR | The adventures of Cmdr. McBragg | Thu Feb 07 1991 16:35 | 14 |
|
Just noticed I'd better update this note! Current stereo:
Alpine 7390 head unit
Alpine 5952S CD player (currently at Alpine being repaired)
Alpine 3321 11band eq/crossover
Alpine 3528 amp at 4x35 watts/channel
2 Soundstream D100-II's @ 50x2 watts/channel
Concord CA200.2 amp @ 500 watts
2 Alpine 6255 midrange drivers and tweets
2 Rockford Fosgate SPP-158 15" subwoofers
Total power: 840 watts
|
| 140.71 | Whatcha got at home? | PLAYER::SUTHERLAND | Welcome to Paradise! | Thu Feb 07 1991 16:42 | 6 |
|
Wow, how did you get all that in your car Rob?
GAZ
|
| 140.72 | | CAVLRY::ROBR | The adventures of Cmdr. McBragg | Thu Feb 07 1991 18:08 | 13 |
|
Ah, still plenty more room! Next additions will be to dump the Concord
amp, replace it with a Precision Power amp, an Eclipse DSP unit for
surround sound, a center channel, some mirror mounted tweets, a couple
of midbass drivers up front. Dump the Rockford Fosgate 15's and
replace them with 4 Polydax 12's. Pick up an Altec Lansing ALC-20 eq
unit and a couple of active crossovers. Haven't decided from who yet.
For home, I don't go nearly as mental (though I got my brother into it
now. He has a surround system with a sub now, drives me up a wall). I
have a Denon receiver, BSR CD player, Sony dual deck, Criterion
speakers. Nothing fancy. I'm a car audio psychopath, I don;t want to
become a home audio one, that's too much money :')
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| 140.73 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Heavy duty rock'n'roll!! | Tue Feb 12 1991 17:41 | 11 |
|
RE: Rob
No, I don't have an EQ/amp combo ... they're separate. But I
usually have the EQ bypass on to eliminate the static. The
Sherwood amp I have is 120WPC max, and I estimate I'm running
it at about 70WPC or so.
GTI
|
| 140.74 | | CAVLRY::ROBR | I'm Brian and so's my wife! | Tue Feb 12 1991 17:46 | 7 |
|
ah, thats right!! the crutchfield sherwood! okay! coolness! btw,
what static? is the amp causing some sort of static problem withiin
the system? ive never heard a sherwood, so im kind of curious how well
they sound.
|
| 140.75 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Heavy duty rock'n'roll!! | Tue Feb 12 1991 18:25 | 16 |
|
Well, part of the problem is that I am running the amp off
of the speaker outs from the radio ... I didn't like the
sound from the pre-amps out. Then the amp just multiplies
the static, and the EQ adds even more.
The reason I'm pretty sure the radio is the problem is that
if I use the portable CD in the car, running through the CD
input on the EQ, it sounds great ... just a bit of static
that you don't even notice on non-classical music.
I like the Sherwood so far ... not as clean as an Alpine, but
I really don't have the need/money for super clean sound.
GTI
|
| 140.76 | Subwoofer x-over frequencies | LANDO::DEMARCO | Swords and Tequila | Thu Jun 06 1991 13:34 | 11 |
| I have a question for Rob (our resident car audio expert)... 8-)
What frequency do you cross your subwoofers over at? I've had
suggestions of 80Hz to 125Hz. I'm in the process of adding a 2-12" Pyle
sub box to the system in the Bronco-saurus. I'm using one of the older
non-adjustable ADS crossovers (AX-2) and I have to solder up the
correct resistors to change the crossover frequency.
Thanks for any and all advice.
-Stevie D
|
| 140.77 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Have fun storming the castle!! | Thu Jun 06 1991 13:48 | 11 |
|
[I'm not Rob, but I do know this much. And nothing more.]
If you use 125Hz you'll be losing some of the stereo signals
that you'd otherwise hear.
80Hz is right around the point where stereo sound starts to
occur.
GTI
|
| 140.78 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Owner of 4 vintage Fenders | Thu Jun 06 1991 16:15 | 18 |
| WTF ... the folks in audio didn't help me on this one, maybe some of
you people can.
I got a *killah* deal on a Clarion AM/FM/Tape deck ... but, the cables
(RCA ends) that connects to the power amp was cut off. So now I need
to wire some RCA cables back to it. Any suggestions ?
To the best of memory, it has white, red, green, blue, yellow, black
wires - plus a white one with no copper wire in it (?), all this
wrapped in sheilding ...
The red wire goes to the remote on the power amp, I'm pretty sure -
past that, I'm in the woods.
HELP !
Scary
|
| 140.79 | Can you give any more info, like 2/4 channels, etc.? | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Have fun storming the castle!! | Thu Jun 06 1991 16:51 | 11 |
|
Is this a Clarion set-up, IE Clarion deck and Clarion amp, or
is just the deck a Clarion, and the amp is something else?
There are so many combinations for wires on stereos it's am-
azing. 2 channel output, 4 channel output, common ground for
each side, common ground for all 4 speakers, etc.
I think this is the reason you haven't gotten an answer yet.
GTI
|
| 140.80 | VCR cleaning | HAVASU::HEISER | Episcopal=PepsiCola spelled sideways | Thu Jun 06 1991 17:10 | 6 |
| BTW - Where are the AUDIO and VIDEO conferences now?
When it comes to VCR head cleaners, do you guys prefer the dry or wet
system? Why?
Mike
|
| 140.81 | It's a mono sub setup | LANDO::DEMARCO | Swords and Tequila | Thu Jun 06 1991 17:58 | 11 |
| >If you use 125Hz you'll be losing some of the stereo signals
>that you'd otherwise hear. 80Hz is right around the point where
>stereo sound starts to occur.
I'll be running the subwoofer with a mono amp, so stereo imaging isn't
a problem.
So what crossover frequency do y'all recommend?
-Stevie D
|
| 140.82 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Owner of 4 vintage Fenders | Thu Jun 06 1991 18:38 | 7 |
| RE: Clarion ...
Non-powered unit ... front/rear fader ... left/right fader ... going
into a 40x40 Radio Shack power amp ...
Scary (who'd rather (not* take it to a reapair shop ... $30 plus parts)
|
| 140.83 | Maybe not noticeable, depending on the music | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Have fun storming the castle!! | Thu Jun 06 1991 18:41 | 11 |
|
RE: Steve
BUT, if you use 125Hz as a cross-over point, then that's a
range of 45Hz or so [80Hz-125Hz] that won't be going to the
stereo speakers in your set-up.
In other words, you'll be "losing" 45Hz worth of stereo sig-
nals due to the cross-over point.
GTI
|
| 140.84 | So you're recommending <=80Hz ? | LANDO::DEMARCO | Swords and Tequila | Thu Jun 06 1991 21:50 | 7 |
| So Shawn, in regards to my subwoofer,
Are you saying I should use a crossover frequency of 80Hz or less?
That sounds awful low...but of course I'm not really an expert!
-Stevie D 8-)
|
| 140.85 | | CAVLRY::ROBR | Every breath a static charge | Fri Jun 07 1991 03:24 | 19 |
|
Okay, let me try this, I'm pretty messed up, but... :')
My personal system is xovered at 50Hz, but that's me. Can you tell us
a bit about your equipment, frew response of your speakers, etc?
Perhaps with that bit of info, we could help out a bit better. Car
audio is half my life. If I'd spent on my drums what I have on car
audio, I'd make Neil Peart look like he had a 5 piece set :'). Tell us
your complete setup. Head unit, amps, speakers, car type, speaker
locations, angle, etc. If you could come up with thiele/small
parameters for your subs, that would be even better (but I suppose
thats pushing it :'))
As far as someone mentioning the Clarion, why not just call them? I'm
sure they'd be happy to send out a wiring diagram.
- Rob back to the Jim Beam...
|
| 140.86 | I want a Bronco that KICKs!! | LANDO::DEMARCO | Swords and Tequila | Fri Jun 07 1991 16:36 | 43 |
| Re: -1
Rob, right now the Bronco-saurus ('85 full-size Bronco) has:
o Kenwood KRC-3002 head unit
o Infinity CS-1K component system - Freq Resp 36Hz-32KHz - has its own
passive 3-way crossover - tweeters are mounted on either corner of the
dash, mids are in the doors, and woofers are in the side panels behind
the front seat.
o Boston Acoustic C700 plates - Freq Resp 58Hz-20KHz - these are mounted
above the Infinity Woofers in the side panels.
o ADS PQ10 power amp in 4 channel mode 4x40 watts - 2 channels power the
Infinity system and 2 power the BAs.
I have in my basement that I want to install:
o Pyle TS212 subwoofer - Freq Resp 20-500Hz
o Nakamichi PA-400M 140 watt mono amp
o ADS AX-2 Electronic Crossover
The speakers in the side panels are not capable of producing good low
bass just because of the design of the truck, so I want relieve them of
this responsibility by crossing over everything below a certain
frequency and feeding it to the subs. I just need some advice on what
you think that frequency should be? If you think I should try a few
different ones I could solder up a couple sets of headers for the AX-2
with different frequencies, but it's not as simple as turning a pot to
change the cutoff.
As an aside, I picked-up everything except the head unit about a year
ago from a former Wang employee who had all this stuff and more in a
Porsche. He was in a fix and I got the whole kaboodle *CHEAP*. So my
selection of components was based purely on monetary reasons, rather
that esoteric ones 8-)
So what do you think?
-Stevie D
|
| 140.87 | FYI | HAVASU::HEISER | more than a man | Fri Jul 12 1991 19:34 | 69 |
| Article: 850
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (DAVE McNARY)
Newsgroups: clari.tw.electronics,clari.news.music,clari.biz.economy
Subject: Agreement reached on digital recording
Date: 11 Jul 91 21:43:45 GMT
The recording and consumer electronics industries announced a
landmark agreement Thursday ending a decade-long standoff over home
recording on digital audio recorders.
The agreement calls for producers of digital tape recorders, which
can copy digitally recorded music to produce near-perfect versions of
songs, to pay royalties to the recording industry for sales lost to
taping.
The compromise, encompassed in a draft of copyright legislation to be
submitted to Congress, provides for a royalty of 2 percent of the
wholesale price of recorders, with a minimum of $1 and a maximum of $8
per machine, and a 3 percent royalty on blank tapes and discs.
Those payments would be divided through a complex formula among
record companies, songwriters, artists and publishers.
The proposed legislation also would require that all non-professional
consumer digital audio recorders include electronics that will prevent
the making of digital copies of copies. That would be accomplished by
programming the recorders to read encoded information in digital
recordings, which would specify whether the song may be copied without
limitation, may be copied only once, or may not be copied at all.
The pact also said that the music industry will not seek similar
royalties on conventional analog recorders or tapes.
The pact was announced at a news conference in New York by the
Electronic Industries Association, the Recording Industry Association of
America and the Copyright Coalition of songwriters and music publishers
represented by the National Music Publishers Association.
``This proposed legislation will settle the debate over the legality
of consumer audio taping,'' said Gary J. Shapiro vice president at the
consumer electronics trade group.
``The royalty which manufacturers will pay on new digital recording
technologies will benefit consumers, assuring them full access to new
product and an ever-increasing, diverse supply of prerecorded music.''
The compromise had been widely expected. Shapiro had hinted last
month that the trade group was willing to settle the issue when he said,
``It is time for this digital stalemate to be broken.''
Japanese electronics giant Sony Corp. introduced digital audio tape
players into the United States last year with the goal of selling 100,
000 units annually. But sales have been far under expectations because
of their high costs and a lack of digital product from record companies.
Sony was sued by songwriters over alleged violation of their
copyrights because the players allow unauthorized recordings by
consumers, but the songwriters and Sony announced Thursday that the suit
will be dropped.
The compromise could open the door for lower-cost digital recorders.
N.V. Phillips of the Netherlands and Tandy Corp. of Fort Worth, Texas,
have reportedly been developing a moderately priced system called
digital compact cassette, or DCC.
Additionally, Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. of Japan, which
makes Panasonic products and owns MCA Inc. of Universal City, Calif.,
has said it will back DCC.
Sony, which has said it may introduce a low-cost home digital
recording machine called the Mini Disc which would use CDs instead of
tapes, also said Thursday it will ``actively support'' the compromise
legislative proposal.
The Mini Disc, which would have a 2.5-inch diameter and fit easily
into a customer's hands, would be the first CD that could both record
music and play it back.
The first DCC players, produced by Phillips and Tandy, are expected
to reach U.S. electronics stores in about a year, while Sony's Mini Disc
will probably be available late next year.
Sony recently indicated it plans to license the DCC technology and
begin production possibly next year.
Recorded music sales are estimated at more than $7.5 billion
annually, with audio cassettes making up nearly half of that.
|
| 140.88 | Good Question and HOW? | XCUSME::JENNISON | Together We Can Walk The Miles | Thu Aug 15 1991 16:05 | 1 |
| Does anyone have a delay system hooked up to their stereo????
|
| 140.89 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Would you like a McDolphin, sir? | Thu Aug 15 1991 16:33 | 9 |
|
What kind of a delay?
My amp clicks on about 2 or 3 seconds after I turn on the radio.
Is that what you mean?
If so, it's built into the amp.
GTI
|
| 140.90 | | METALX::SWANSON | MakeEvrythngLouderThanEvrythngElse | Thu Aug 15 1991 18:56 | 6 |
| I think she means delay from front to rear speakers. I would assume it
would hook into a pair of line out jacks, and then it would have to go
to another amp which would drive your rear speakers.
|KS|
|
| 140.91 | | HAVASU::HEISER | in the land of the morning star | Thu Aug 15 1991 20:21 | 1 |
| forget the delay, put an Eventide H3000 harmonizer on your stereo ;-)
|
| 140.92 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Happy is never enough | Thu Aug 15 1991 20:22 | 1 |
| it does delays too...
|
| 140.93 | | CAVLRY::ROBR | Things that make u go Hmmm..... | Fri Aug 16 1991 05:08 | 7 |
|
you solve that delay problem yet sue? i looked over the unit you have
pretty thoroughly cause i wanted to swipe it :') so, what's up?
(send mail)
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| 140.94 | | MILKWY::SLABOUNTY | Exit light ... enter night. | Fri Aug 16 1991 15:12 | 7 |
|
I sent her what I thought would work ... Sue, did you try my
method? Did it work? Did it blow up?
8^)
GTI
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| 140.95 | | HYEND::C_DENOPOULOS | Men Are Pigs, And Proud Of It | Mon Jan 27 1992 18:17 | 7 |
| I installed a used JVC AM/FM/Cass in my father-in-law's truck. It has
digital tuning. There are 6 buttons; channels 1-5 and a band channel.
There is a clock button and a scan button. I figured out how to set
the clock, but I can't figure out how to set the stations. Can anyone
help???
Chris D.
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| 140.96 | | WLDWST::GKEFALINOS | It's a deadly combination | Mon Jan 27 1992 18:22 | 4 |
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Pull the on-off or tuning knob out. press the selected station.
Repeat.
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| 140.97 | | HYEND::C_DENOPOULOS | Men Are Pigs, And Proud Of It | Mon Jan 27 1992 18:33 | 5 |
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I know the on/off/volume knob also works the electric antenna(if he had
one). I'll try the tuning knob.
Chris D.
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| 140.98 | Maybe? | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Now I'm down in it | Mon Jan 27 1992 20:32 | 4 |
| Some of those preset ones program the preset by holding the preset
button in. The factory radio in my Ford is like that.
gh
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| 140.99 | | HYEND::C_DENOPOULOS | Men Are Pigs, And Proud Of It | Tue Jan 28 1992 13:02 | 4 |
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HUH!!! What preset?? There is no preset button!
Chris D.
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| 140.100 | | METALX::SWANSON | I'm high on Sega | Tue Jan 28 1992 13:59 | 5 |
| Tune to a station you want, and just hold in the button of your choice
(1-5) untill you hear a beep, or the music come through the speakers.
|KS|
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| 140.101 | | HYEND::C_DENOPOULOS | Men Are Pigs, And Proud Of It | Tue Jan 28 1992 16:38 | 5 |
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Well, I tune to the station I (he) wants and as soon as I touch the
button it jumps back to the station the button was originally set for.
Chris D.
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| 140.102 | | WLDWST::GKEFALINOS | It's a deadly combination | Tue Jan 28 1992 16:55 | 5 |
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"Throw the f*cker out the window"
Tommy Chong
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| 140.103 | That was a good one..... | COMET::FRISBYA | Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs,darling | Tue Jan 28 1992 17:11 | 4 |
| re-1 BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Frizkid
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| 140.104 | | HYEND::C_DENOPOULOS | Men Are Pigs, And Proud Of It | Tue Jan 28 1992 17:15 | 7 |
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Well, maybe I would, butit ain't mine, it's my father-in-laws. So, it
doesn't bother me that much, it's just curiousity since I tried
everything I could think of. But I'll tell ya, if he didn't buy it, I
would have. $35.00 from a junk yard.
Chris D.
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| 140.106 | | DYMNDZ::JUDY | Who can you trust? | Mon Jun 08 1992 18:18 | 4 |
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Great! Thanks Mike..... =)
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| 140.107 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | I'm not part of the real world | Mon Jun 08 1992 19:30 | 7 |
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I just bought a Clarion removable CD player for my car ... going
to pick it up tomorrow and hopefully install it this week.
The 16V/240W antenna mobile lives again!!
GTI
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| 140.108 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Who do ya love? | Mon Jun 08 1992 19:38 | 9 |
| I think that, like most vendors, Teac has both high and low quality
equipment (and cooresponding prices). I imagine that the quality of
what you get depends a lot on what model it is.
But, for my vote, even the cheapest of CD players that I've seen
(like...umm...mine for instance) sound great! Better then some of the
best cassette players...
Greg
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| 140.109 | | KDX200::COOPER | A regular model of restraint... | Mon Jun 08 1992 20:18 | 14 |
| Yeah JJ - What Greg says.
FWIW - I bought a cheapo Toshiba like 5 years ago that goes to our gigs
with us in my Van (this means it regularly gets crushed, dropped, bashed
and otherwise abused), and I haven't had a problem with it EVER...And it sounds
GREAT !
RE: Carosels and Magazines.
Stay away from the Magazine loaded CD players. IMHO, they S*CK!
...Unless you have multiple magazines. I think the Carosels are more
convenient. And the singles work good too.
jc
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| 140.111 | | KDX200::COOPER | A regular model of restraint... | Mon Jun 08 1992 21:52 | 22 |
| Well Mike, that would be pretty decent for sure... However, I don't
have but a single disc player in my van, and a 6-CD mag for my home
system... And I only have one mag for the home system !
I'll load it up with,say:
MegaDeth - RIP
Annihilator - Never,Neverland
Annihilator - Alice In Hell
Metal Church - The Dark
Metallica - Master Of Puppets
Metallica - AJFA
Flip the bloody thing on "Random" and go feed the doggies. I come back
after two tunes and find my wife has slipped a Madonna CD in there or something
just as nasty (Beastie Boys or sum-such). And of course all the GOOD CD's
are sittin' in a pile on the coffee table... :)
Eewwwww. anyway, I just think the carosels are a little more convenient.
:)
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| 140.112 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | I'm not part of the real world | Tue Jun 09 1992 10:42 | 16 |
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I have a Technics [insert model # here] carousel player that I
bought at Leiser [about 6 months before they closed down] for
$149 ... cashed in all my spare change I'd been saving. The
thing is great!! Works off of the same remote as my Technics
receiver, and has all the usual features plus a "link" for the
Technics cassette player I have [length of songs to be recorded
is tallied up and the cassette player decides how many songs
will fit on side one ... with the rest going on side 2].
And the magazine-type players don't let you change a disc if
the CD is in "play" mode. With the carousel, you can remove
any of the 4 CD's not currently playing without having to stop
the unit.
GTI
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| 140.113 | | BOVES::FENNELL | Sister Luck" | Tue Jun 09 1992 14:18 | 14 |
| I seem to remember that stock checks arrive one week exactly from the date of
sale.
Judy: I'd recommend a Technics also. I bought one for $100 for my mom that
did amazing things. You could program tape length in and it would stop at the
right point and wait for you to flip the tape. Too bad she doesn't have a tape
deck (but I did!). The exact opposite of mine which has no remote and isn't
even programmable. I still like mine though.
Watch out for Lechmere, they'll put the squeeze on you for the service contract
which can run $20-30.
Tim
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| 140.114 | | DYMNDZ::JUDY | Who can you trust? | Tue Jun 09 1992 15:27 | 6 |
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Ok, I'll check out Technics at Lechmere first.....
Thanks guys!
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| 140.115 | | KDX200::COOPER | A regular model of restraint... | Tue Jun 09 1992 15:29 | 7 |
| RE: Shawn
Yeah man - thats why I say Carosels RULES !
JJ- get the one Shawn has !!
jc (Who wishes his was not a mag)
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| 140.116 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coasters -- Live to ride, Ride to live! | Tue Jun 09 1992 15:30 | 1 |
| I like Carousels too...esp. the double decker on at Great America!
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| 140.117 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | I'm not part of the real world | Tue Jun 09 1992 16:52 | 22 |
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RE: Buck
Wise-*ss!! 8^)
RE: Service contracts
Yeah, I wouldn't bother with those stupid things. A friend and I
had a LONG discussion with a salesman at Leiser, where I basically
told the guy that if the service contract wasn't a money-maker for
the store then they wouldn't be offered. And he came back with the
expected "But what if something unforeseen happens? Then you're
stuck paying out of your pocket." Well, during 6 years of buying
ALOT of Technics/Panasonic stuff, I have had 1 power supply blow
in my 1st receiver ... which was covered under warranty.
The moral of the story ... pick a brand you can trust and you'll
probably have no problems. Especially considering Leiser wanted
something like $80 for a $250 Panasonic stereo TV I bought. It's
really not worth it, IMO.
GTI
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| 140.118 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Who do ya love? | Tue Jun 09 1992 22:17 | 10 |
| re: service contracts
Consumer Reports agrees with Shawn that these are a waste of your
money.
I personally have never had a piece of stereo gear which needed
anything other then normal maintenance (which those contracts don't
cover).
gh
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| 140.119 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | I'm not part of the real world | Wed Jun 10 1992 10:32 | 6 |
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Consumer Reports agrees with me? Oh no!!
That almost makes me want to change my mind, but I won't.
GTI
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| 140.120 | | DYMNDZ::JUDY | Who can you trust? | Wed Jun 10 1992 12:43 | 13 |
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Well I "splurged" and went for the Pioneer. It was 10%
off cuz it was the display model but when the stockboy
brought the box out, it had a brand new one in it so
the guy gave me the new one for the 10% off price anyhoo!
I wanted one with a remote and being able to program the
playing order by numbers.....I haven't had a chance to play
with it yet cuz my CDs are still at the 'rents! But I'm
picking them up tonite.
JJ
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| 140.121 | | KURMA::IGOLDIE | So be it....! | Wed Jun 10 1992 12:52 | 7 |
| When(if)I get my share money I'm off to buy a new cd player.I've got 2
in mind;a Marantz 42 or a Technics 400(yslp or something).The Technis
is slightly ahead in my want list and can be bought for 175 quid!
Staynz
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| 140.122 | | METALX::SWANSON | Feathers From Your Tree | Thu Jun 11 1992 02:04 | 19 |
| I've had a Technics reciever, turntable, and eq. All three components
have had problems to some extent which I never got fixed because they
weren't "fatal" and the warranties were expired.
Turntable is supposed to auto-size a 7" or 12" record and start playing
the first track when you press START. Sometimes it thinks it's a 7"
when it's a normal 12" LP and starts playing from the middle of the
record.
EQ has a cold solder joint or something which causes one channel to
crackle sometimes when a tape is played through tape monitor. Twisting
the case slightly fixes this.
Reciever went wacko one day and blew one channel of the amp out (and my
speaker with it.) I guess this one was fatal come to think of it.
I'm not knocking them... I just don't buy Technics stuff anymore.
Ken
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| 140.123 | | BOVES::FENNELL | Sister Luck" | Thu Jun 11 1992 14:00 | 12 |
| About all you can do is try to avoid "known problem" components. Much of my
stereo right now I bought used because I can't afford the stuff I like.
I do own a pair of KEF speakers formerly owned by Robert Parrish (of the Boston
Celtics). He blew them up and they were rebuilt at the factory and bought by
me.
I'm asked by my family what to stereo stuff to buy since I have been a stereo
nut since I was in high school. I think that Technics is the unit to buy for
around $100.
Tim
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| 140.124 | | BUSY::FISED::SLABOUNTY | Thailboat!! | Mon Nov 14 1994 09:44 | 17 |
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I finally got the front speakers back in the VW after a couple
months ... had water leaking through the doors and had the VW
dealer replace the "foils" [plastic sheets in the doors] since
the old ones were shriveled up and not stopping the water from
coming in.
I also had 1 bad interconnect between the EQ and right front
speaker, which I "temporarily" replaced by running an RS gold
connector right along the floor [under the right front mat] and
over to one of the amps. One of these days I might even pull
up the carpet and run it where it should be.
Sounds MUCH better with sound coming out of the front now!!
GTI
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