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Title:HEAVY_METAL - Talent Round-Up DayDay
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Created:Thu May 05 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1238
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58.0. "Heavy Metal starter kit?" by ERIS::CONLON (An anchovy pizza, hold the pizza.) Fri May 20 1988 20:54

    
        Could someone please enter a list of music (and/or books) that a 
    Heavy Metalist in training could enter into the correct perspective?
    I've already cultivated an interest in Led Zeppilin, Black Sabbath and     
    someother HM relatives (Jimi Hendrix, Doors & Iron Butterfly).  Money is 
    *not* endless, so please don't me too many tempting suggestions.  Thanks 
    in advance.

    
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58.1CSC32::J_HERNANDEZFri May 20 1988 21:4214
If I had to start over I'd go with:
    Back in Black : awesome all the way through
    Piece of Mind : Iron Maiden 
    Van Halen I & II : Need I say More
    Blackout: A personal favorite
    Under Lock and Key: Gotta have some Goerge Lynch
    
    Any of these would be good to get you goin' I consider them to be
    favorites of mine, but maybe you'd like to start with recent stuff.
    It's upta u.
    
    
           devil dog
    
58.2Confirmation from MOSATUSHS08::DAVIS2Reality? Just say NO.Fri May 20 1988 23:2113
    
    	   The dog has spoken well and truely.  One should enter
    	the metal scene slowly, lest one find oneself lost in a
    	phantasm of metalness.  Some of the older stuff makes a
    	good springboard into more progressive metality, which
    	is beyond a beginner (see: MOSH=ANTHRAX).
    
    	  If you can't get into VH I and II, you are beyond hope.
    	If Back In Black doesn't jar your bones, they're pinned
    	together too tightly for metal.  
    
    	-=[MOSAT]=-
    
58.3Something new to bother the neighbors with... ;-)ERIS::CONLONAn anchovy pizza, hold the pizza.Sat May 21 1988 00:107
    
    I have listened to Back in Black, and occasionally I crave something
    even heavier.  Not thrash, but Heavy Metal.  Thanks for your help,
    but now I'll be broke bying this stuff.  :-)
    
    PS: What do most Heavy Metalists think about Jimi Hendrix?
    
58.4Jimi HendrixUSHS08::DAVIS2Reality? Just say NO.Sat May 21 1988 00:176
    
    	  A creative genius of his time.  His album output has
    	been drastically reduced since his death.
    
    	-=[MOSAT]=-
    
58.6New Hedrix Cuts!!!USHS08::DAVIS2Reality? Just say NO.Sat May 21 1988 02:1510
    
    	   Actually, I have seen quite a few Hendrix albums that were
    	released after his death.  Some of them contain previously
    	unreleased stuff (though when you hear it, you know why it
    	was unreleased).  The problem is that there was only so much
    	of the uncirculated stuff to go around, and once that petered
    	out, so did the new Hendrix albums.  Haven't seen any new ones
    	now for nearly a decade.  Time sorta creeps past, doesn't it?
    
    	-=[MOSAT]=-
58.7I don't call Hendrix, Led Zep, or the like HM!MARKER::BUCKLEYWilliam J. BuckleySat May 21 1988 17:1116
    
    My heavy metal starter recommendation kit would include:
    
    Metallica - ride the lightning
    Sabbath - Heaven & Hell
    Alcatrazz - No Parole...
    Scorps - Virgin Killer
    Deep Purple - Machine Head
    Van Halen - VH1
    Motorhead - No Remorse
    Ozzy - Blizzard of Ozz
    Queensryche - the EP
    AC/DC - High Voltage
    
    You know, a little of this, a little of that...
    Buck
58.84 Starters...RAVEN1::JERRYWHITETue May 24 1988 15:3016
    If I could do it all over knowing what I do now ....
    
    Metallica - Ride The Lightning
    Motley Crue - Too Fast For Love (?) with Live Wire
    Judas Priest - British Steel
    Dokken - Tooth And Nail
    AC/DC - Back In Black
    Loudness - Thunder From The East
    Van Halen - I and II
    Tesla - Mechanical Resonance
    Ratt - Out Of The Cellar
    Cinderella - Night Songs
    Aerosmith - Toys In The Attic
    
    
    				Mr Scary II
58.10MY TWO CENTSATEAM::BUTKUSTASTE JUST LIKE CHICKEN!Wed May 25 1988 00:559
    
    KISS - Alive
    AC/DC - Any
    BLACK SABBATH - Any
               
    
                                     Mighty
    				      Boring
    
58.11SUBURB::DALLISONIf its too LOUD, you're too OLDWed May 25 1988 07:179
    
    
    Dio - Holy Diver
    Dio - Last in Line
    Iron Maiden - Live after Death
    Aerosmith - Rocks
    Mettalica - Master of Puppets
    
    -Tony
58.12What? Great White on WAAF!!!CURIE::STANGERebel of an Unknown causeWed May 25 1988 12:1922
      
    
       My Starter Kit:
    
                   AC/DC         - Back in Black
                                 - For Those about to Rock, We Salute You!
                   Ozzy          - Blizzard of Oz
                                 - Diary of a Madman
                   Dokken        - Breaking the Chains
                                 - Tooth and Nail
                   Black Sabbath - Paranoid
                   Jimi Hendrix  - Are You Experienced?
                   Van Halen     - I
                                 - II
                   Ratt          - Out of the Cellar
                   White Snake   - Slide It In
                   
        Just the beginning of a long list.
    
                                                 Stinger...
    
    
58.13IPG::PERKINSThu May 26 1988 10:137
    Guns n' Roses - Appetite for Destruction.
    
    This should act as an incentive to all heavy metal beginners -
    
    Why should so much trash have sooooo much talent?!?
    
    Philippa
58.14HAIRY ARMPITS44234::IGOLDIEWed Jan 10 1990 14:227
    O.K SO YOU WANT TO HAVE MY PERSONAL STARTER KIT
                        VH 1
                    LED ZEPPLIN 4
                    SCORPIONS BLACKOUT
                    METALLICA ANYTHING
                    Y&T ANYTHING
                          
58.1556504::STROUTknocking on heaven's door...Wed Jan 10 1990 14:251
    blackout over love at first sting???
58.16CSC32::J_HERNANDEZDevil Dog on the deathbed!!YAHOO!!Wed Jan 10 1990 16:101
    'dats what he said. I agree.
58.1756506::STROUTknocking on heaven's door...Wed Jan 10 1990 16:174
	No One Like You before Rock You Like a Hurricane???  but the
    guitar work!!!!
    
    sean
58.18CSC32::J_HERNANDEZDevil Dog on the deathbed!!YAHOO!!Wed Jan 10 1990 16:293
    How about "Can't Live Without You" or "Blackout" over "Rock you Like A
    Hurricane". Think of the top 9 songs off these 2 albums and I bet 5 are
    from Blackout.
58.1956504::STROUTknocking on heaven's door...Wed Jan 10 1990 16:324
    Still Loving You, Crossfire, Bad Boys Running Wild...  (don't get
    me wrong, I like both albums, the first I got was LAFS though :)
    
    sean
58.20soft guitar...JAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DNEAST::EASTMAN_JAMEWed Jan 10 1990 16:376
    
    
          Coming Home Rocks!
    
    SabFan
    
58.21forgot about that one56504::STROUTknocking on heaven's door...Wed Jan 10 1990 16:381
    
58.22CSC32::J_HERNANDEZIf its Brown,Flush it down!!!Fri Jan 12 1990 15:051
    "The Same Thrill" kick some glutes.
58.23\MERLAN::SCALZOFri Jan 12 1990 16:205
    
    A-smith  Rocks
    Priest-anything
    Sorpions-Blackout
    
58.24Get them both on one....MCIS2::AKINSValhalla I am coming....Sat Jan 13 1990 01:0228
For the Scorpions...


Get their latest...


Best of Rockers and Ballods.

It has...

ROCK YOU LIKE A HURICANE
LOVE DRIVE
HOLIDAY
BLACK OUT
NO ONE LIKE YOU
CAN'T EXPLAIN (cover of the Who)


and some great others....It is your best bet...


I also agree that Zep IV.  (to make sure you know where it all started :-).)

You need Priest....Screaming for Vengance, or Defenders of the Faith (or both)

in addition some Sabbath or Ozzy...

Bill
58.25 ...ENOVAX::DIBIASICYBERNETIC HEARTBEATThu Jan 18 1990 04:1110
    
     Judas Priest-Iron Maiden-Motorhead-Metallica-Stormtroopers Of Death-
     AC/DC-Megadeth-Black Sabbath-Accept-Ted Nugent-Van Halen-Scorpions-
     Led Zep-KISS-Ozzy-
    
                         Just for a starter kit
    
    
    
                               DEEBS
58.264 Great BasicsPOBOX::PATLAAspirin damage....Thu Jan 18 1990 14:305
    AC/DC - Back In Black
    Ted Nugent - Great Gonzos
    Zeppelin - Zofo (IV)
    Van Halen - Van Halen
    
58.27Another set...JANUS::FAGGStone Deaf in the UKTue Jan 23 1990 14:169
    Black Sabbath - Volume IV
    Deep Purple	  - Made in Japan
    		  - In Rock
    Motorhead     - Overkill
    		  - Another Perfect Day
    Saxon	  - Wheels of Steel
    Metallica	  - Master of Puppets
    Rainbow	  - Rainbow Rising
    Jimi Hendrix  - Electric Ladyland
58.28Jam it, Pizza faceTRAM::JBLUMMon May 14 1990 23:4614
    	Try:
    
    	    Judas Priest  -British steel
                          -Screaming For Vengeance
            Iron Maiden   -Killers
                          -Piece of mind
            Def Lep       -On Thru The Night
            Scorpions     -Animal Magnatism
                          -Lovedrive
            Metallica     -Kill 'em All (mmm mmm, Tastes like nails)
                           (Just in case you want to get a little hotter)
            
    	Those are just aew that I grew up on, they should work pretty well
    LANDSHARK
58.29INTRO TO METALMRVAX::CESCOBARWow, those are firm....Fri Sep 20 1991 16:0916
    
    I need some help here. And who better to give than the resident
    experts, huh? A friend came to me the other day, (ok it was yesterday)
    and asked if i could make some kind of a tape, as an introduction to
    metal. Now I'm not totally sure of what to put on it, so I would like
    some opinions. Not to offend anyone, but he wants HEAVY METAL, not
    groups like poison or warrant, cause he can here them on the radio.
    He's so used to Classical and doesn't want a talentless tape, soooo
    Just throw some ideas this way.... I'll incorporate what i hear.
    Now remember this tape is only 110 minutes long, so I can't put
    everyone's suggestion in. After i make the tape I'll post what ones I
    put on. the only limit is one band can only have a maximum of 2 songs
    on the tape....   and thanks!!!
    
    
    chris, who is glad to be working with all you knowledgable people
58.30VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveFri Sep 20 1991 16:344
    It should definitely have Halloween by Helloween on it. A brilliant
    13+ minute song that puts Iron Maiden to shame.
    
    
58.31MR4DEC::JWHITMANNo more TearsFri Sep 20 1991 16:5810
    
    
    
    	And Megadeths 'Holy Wars'... Queen of the Ryche!! aaahhh hmmm a 
    	bit of 'thrax, and of course (I know you won't miss'em) Metallica!
    
    	Some Suicidal would be nice also ;')
    
    
    	JW-
58.32Except for POWER BALLADS, came out awesomeMRVAX::CESCOBARWow, those are firm....Fri Sep 20 1991 17:008
    
    Ok, we're gettin' there. But specific songs would help even more. Cause
    I'm kinda biased, so I wanna get everyone's  opinion first...
    So if you wouldn't mind song titles would rule....
    
    
    Thanks
    Chris, who get's frustrated, especially makin' tapes
58.33VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveFri Sep 20 1991 17:094
    
    	Caught in a Mosh by Anthrax.
    
    	Phantom of the Opera by Iron Maiden off of their first release.
58.34MR4DEC::JWHITMANNo more TearsFri Sep 20 1991 18:293
    
    
    	Antrax.. anything off of P.O.T.
58.35These any help?JANUS::FAGGHeavy and LOUD!!Sun Sep 22 1991 09:3029
We're dealing here with a total newcomer, I assume. So I think we need a good
spread of stuff from the last 20-odd years (and some of them have been very
odd indeed!).

Straight off the top of my head come these:

	Deep Purple	Smoke on the Water (from Made in Japan)
	Deep Purple	Child in Time (ditto)
	Black Sabbath	Paranoid or Iron Man (from Paranoid)
	Black Sabbath	Wheels of Confusion or Supernaut (from Vol IV)
	Motorhead	Orgasmatron (from Orgasmatron)
	Motorhead	Ace of Spades or Radod Crew (from Ace of Spades)
	Sacred Reich	The American Way (from American Way?)
	Metallica	Sad but True or Enter Sandman (from Metallica)
	Metallica	anything of the first three albums
	Testament	Practice what you Preach (from Pratice what you preach)
	Iron Maiden 	Run to the Hills (I foget which album)
	Iron Maiden	The Ancient mariner (from Powerslave)
	Robert Plant	Manic Nirvana (from Manic Nirvana)
	Jimi Hendrix	anything
	Megadeth	Peace Sells... (from Peace Sells But Who's Buying)

Well. There's a few to get you started. I'll have a dig around in the 
collection over the next couple of days and see what else I can uncover
(especially around bands like Overkill, Anthrax, and Megadeth, and Judas 
Priest).

Have fun,
	Keef.
58.36Just some ideasGOES11::G_HOUSEHas anybody seen the bridge?Mon Sep 23 1991 17:5233
    Heavy?
    
    Ok, here's some I'd definately include:
    
    In My Darkest Hour - Megadeth
    Lucretia or Hanger 18 - ""  (I think someone into classical could 
    	                         really appreciate Marty Friedman's playing)
    Efilnikcufecin - Anthrax
    Green Manalishi - Judas Priest
    And Justice For All - Metallica
    Creeping Death -       "" 
    Black Star - Yngwie Malmsteen
    Mr. Crowley - Ozzy
    Balls To The Wall - Accept
    
    For some cool stuff a little lighter:
    
    Piece of Me - Skidrow
    Slave To The Grind - ""
    Tooth and Nail - Dokken 
    Stormbringer - Deep Purple
    Sunlit Nights - Racer X
    Modern Day Cowboy - Tesla
    Surfin With The Alien - Joe Satriani
    The Needle Lies - Queensryche
    Diary of a Madman - Ozzy
    Mr. Brownstone - GnR
    Beatin Round The Bush - AC/DC (or about any AC/DC for that matter)
    Let There Be Rock - ""
    Ocean Size - Jane's Addiction
    Hot Dog and a Shake - David Lee Roth
    
    gh 
58.37KETJE::VLASIUTue Sep 24 1991 12:2553
Here I come also with some suggestions:

Classical metal:

Black Sabbath	- Paranoid, Iron man
Deep Purple	- Smoke on the water, Child in time, Stormbringer
Uriah Heep	- Gipsy, Easy livin', July morning, Sympathy
King Crimson	- 21st century schizoid man, Epitaph
Guess Who	- American woman
Queen		- Killer queen
Sweet		- Ballroom blitz
Grand Funk	- Inside looking out, Shining on
Led Zep		- Communication breakdown, Whole lotta' love, Dazed and confused
Focus		- Hocus pocus

Modern metal:

Iron Maiden	- 2' to midnight, The number of the beast, Alexander the great
Q5		- When the mirror cracks
Metal Church	- Metal Church, The dark, Burrial at sea, Date with poverty,
		  Fake Healer
Raven		- Sledgehammer rock
Manowar		- Heavy metal daze
Helloween	- I want out
Y. Malmsteen RF	- Riot in the dungeons, Krakatoa (?)
Accept		- Balls to the wall, London leather boys
Europe		- The final countdown, Rock the night
Oliver Magnum	- Sister Cybele
Vicious Rumors	- the first on the VR album
Queensryche	- Empire, Walk in the shadow, Closer to you, Queen of the Reich
Hitt Man	- Secret agent man
Motorhead	- The one to sing the blues, Ace of spades
Slayer		- Expendable youth, Skeltons of society, Seasons in the abyss
Forbidden	- Twisted into form, One foot in Hell
Pantera		- Cemetery gates, Message in blood
Danzig		- any of Danzig II - Lucifuge (Blood and tears etc)
Warrior Soul	- Jump for joy, Lulaby
Pretty Maids	- Future world
Metallica	- Creeping death, Master of puppets, the new ballads
Def Leppard	- Foolin'
Cinderella	- Fire and ice
Uriah Heep	- Think it over, Fool for you
Meliah Rage	- Razor ribon
Last Crack	- Dawn beat dirt Messiah, Kiss a the cold
Scorpions	- Blackout, Dynamite, the ballads
Foreigner	- ballads
Sepultura	- Desperate cry, Stronger than hate
Riot		- Leather and glittering steel
Quiet Riot	- Metal health
Coroner		- I want you (she's so heavy)
Crimson Glory	- In dark places

Sorin
58.38DPDMAI::THRELFALLLirpa LlaflerhtTue Sep 24 1991 17:1021
    I doubt these would all fit on a 110 min. tape, but here goes!
    
    Metallica-Holier Than Thou
    The Great Kat---Beethoven Mosh, Funeral March
    Anthrax---H8 Red
    Love/Hate---Fuel To Run, Slave Girl
    Sweet F.A.---Daily Grind
    Motley Crue---Kickstart My Heart, She Goes Down
    Jetboy---Feel The Shake, Make Some Noise
    Electric Boys---Plychedelic Eyes, Into The Woods
    Cry Wolf---Stop, Look, & Listen
    Sons Of Angels---Look Out For Love, Trance Dance
    Extreme---He Man Woman Hater
    Sleeze Beez---Screwed, Blued, & Tattooed; Girls Girls, Nasty Nasty
    Dangerous Toys---Line 'Em Up, Bad Guy
    Junkyard---Nowhere To Go But Down, Throw It All Away
    Two Bit Thief---City Boys, Love/Hate, Desperado
    
    there's more, but...
    
    'pril
58.39MRVAX::CESCOBARYouch! An Anal Explosion!!!!!Tue Sep 24 1991 17:157
    
    Wow.... lotta responses. Keep'em coming, please. I will check back
    sometime this week, to get together all of the suggestions, and finally
    make this tape. 
    
    
    Chris, who is quite appreciative
58.40Cacophony Rulesz!!!CSLALL::PLAFONDTwo,Two Preamps are better than one!Tue Sep 24 1991 17:215
     Here's some thing very exotic for the EAR!!!!
    Toranado of Souls!
    Pierre who get's a very Kool Tone from the MESA BOOGIE!!!!
    
    
58.41Here's a good one ....RAVEN1::JERRYWHITELife's short ... note smart !Wed Sep 25 1991 11:1025
Heavy metal starter kit ...

Don't Talk To Strangers - Dio
Believer - Ozzy
Grinder - Judas Priest
Road To Ruin - Annihilator
Indians - Anthrax
Live Wire - Motley Crue
Million Miles Away - EZO
The Trooper - Iron Maiden
Spreading The Disease - Queensryche
Matriarch - Montrose
Mr. Scary - Dokken
Into The Night - Racer X
Shy Boy - David Lee Roth
Insane - Ratt
Heavy Chains - Loudness
Blitzkreig - Metallica
Escape - Metallica
Practice What You Preach - Testament
War Ensemble - Slayer (there's a better on off `Seasons ...', but I can't 
	think of the name ...)


Scary (who's gonna make this tape tonight !)
58.42... but if your heart's a little weaker ...RAVEN1::JERRYWHITELife's short ... note smart !Wed Sep 25 1991 11:5425
Heavy metal (lo_impact) starter kit ...

Over The Mountain - Ozzy
Miracle Man - Ozzy
Kickstart My Heart -Motley Crue
Looks That Kill - Motley Crue
Between The Eyes - Ratt
Wanted Man - Ratt
Unchain The Night - Dokken
It's Not Love - Dokken
Uncle Tom's Cabin - Warrant
Still Loving You - Scorpions
Black Diamond - Kiss
Unchained - VanHalen
Judgement Day - VanHalen
Head Out To The Highway - Judas Priest
Electric Eye - Judas Priest
Look What The Cat Dragged In - Poison
Runaway - BonJovi
Tokyo Road - BonJovi
Evil Eyes - Dio
Mr. Bronstone - Guns 'n Roses
In The Still Of The Night - Whitesnake

Scary ...
58.43HTHCSC32::J_HERNANDEZOh Yea, Like I'd do that.Wed Sep 25 1991 14:182
    Guys, Van Halen I is where it all should start.
    
58.44CAVLRY::BUCKACE Regional RepWed Sep 25 1991 14:195
    -1
    
    NO!!!  People will get off on the wrong foot!
    
    Try the first Sabbath album!
58.45RAVEN1::JERRYWHITELife's short ... note smart !Wed Sep 25 1991 14:407
    RE: -1
    
    True ... old VH classifies as `stuff your parents wouldn't approve of'
    but I never really considered VH as metal.  Old Sabbath was the mother
    of all metal (IMO) ...
    
    Scary
58.46early metalGOES11::G_HOUSEOn the Life ****ing Sucks tourWed Sep 25 1991 14:421
    ...and old Alice Cooper!
58.50I've got to get O U T O F H E R E !!!RAVEN1::JERRYWHITELife's short ... note smart !Wed Sep 25 1991 14:594
    I was gonna put `Desperado' on one of my lists, and maybe `Ballad Of
    Dwight Fry' too ...
    
    Scary
58.51Would also be good for the listGOES11::G_HOUSEOn the Life ****ing Sucks tourWed Sep 25 1991 15:044
    Actually one of the heaviest songs I can think of is called "Halo of
    Flies" off Killer.  It's got tempo changes and a real heavy beat.
    
    gh
58.52SO LONG LITTLE BABY!HAMER::KRONIAMNOTANNUMBERIAMAFREEMANWed Sep 25 1991 16:282
    yeah! killer is a killer album!! That sound after the trapdoor
    of the gallows opens freaks me out!
58.53HAVASU::HEISERhold me, I'm a fermataWed Sep 25 1991 16:291
    must be why they gave it that name ;-)
58.54Chris, who forgot to write thisat the bottomVLNVAX::CESCOBARYouch! An Anal Explosion!!!!!Wed Sep 25 1991 16:528
    
    Just a little conflict about the true roots of metal????
    
    Not to be offensive to anyone's taste, but there won't be any Motley on
    this tape except, something offa'shout'. VH is a long shot too....
    
    Keep them comin' guys/gals
    
58.55CAVLRY::ROBRWed Sep 25 1991 21:243
    Alice Cooper?  Ugh.  Hardly what I'd call metal...