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Conference bgsdev::skiing

Title:	SKIING
Notice:	* * * * * * THINK SNOW * * * * * *
Moderator:	ASDG::KGOULD

Created:	Mon Jan 09 1989
Last Modified:	Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1581
Total number of notes:	12658

1565.0. "Signs, signs, everywheres a sign" by VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS (Ask me about Young Eagles) Mon Jan 27 1997 13:26

    Here is an interesting bit of terminology that the insurance and
    National Ski Area Association came up with...
    
    Everyone is a "skier"...
    
    
    	Alpine Skier 	= traditional downhill skis
    	Snowboard Skier	= snowboard
    	Nordic Skier	= skinny skis
    
    What was interesting was that at Loon's new Snowboard park the
    insurance co. defined the wording on the signs at the top of the park.
    One line says "Snowboard Skiers Only".  Well, talk about confusing
    lots of people!  
    
    We have since covered over the "skiers" part of the sign.
    
    I just wanted to let folks know about this so if you see signs at 
    other areas, you might better understand them.
    
    Cheers,
    jeff

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1565.1		KOALA::BRIGGS		`Mon Jan 27 1997 16:37`	19
	> What was interesting was that at Loon's new Snowboard park the > insurance co. defined the wording on the signs at the top of the park. > One line says "Snowboard Skiers Only". Well, talk about confusing > lots of people! > We have since covered over the "skiers" part of the sign. I have always had a question about a policy like this - so far, in my experience, I have never encountered a trail that says "Skiers only - No Snowboarders". (Yes, I know that there still are mountains that don't allow snowboarders at all) So, why then is it okay for a ski area to designate part of the terrain for "Snowboarders only". I mean, there is no difference in the price of a lift ticket for a skiier or snowboarder.... (This is said half in jest ;-) -rob
1565.2		VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS	Ask me about Young Eagles	`Mon Jan 27 1997 18:32`	23
	FWIW - Blue Ox at Loon Mtn is designated "Skiers Only". I haven't quite figured it out yet either though.. Even in a snowboard park, why are skiers banned? Skiers could have fun on half pipes, etc. I will say that boarders tend to be more aware of staying out of each other's paths and landing areas than skiers are... The bigger problem that I see with the various "parks" is simply a bad mix of abilities and poor common sense... Since the parks are not usually on steep terrain, even beginners can wander through, generally without getting themselves in much trouble. And often times they end up on the back side of jumps and such, creating problems for people that know what they are doing.. It also still amazes me that in this day and age of liability and lawyers, that mountains can afford to insure these things. Ah well... Cheers, jeff
1565.3	More "snow" and "terrain" parks these days	DECC::SULLIVAN	Jeff Sullivan	`Mon Jan 27 1997 21:58`	7
	It used to be that there were mostly "snowboard-only" snowboard parks and for many case, that was appropriate. I've seen several areas create what they call "snow" or "terrain" parks that are open to all. Most have "danger" signs upon entering and contain jumps for "big air"s. Most people using the jumps are pretty good about giving each other space (for obvious reasons). -Jeff
1565.4	I got a good laugh..	SUBSYS::VIDIOT::PATENAUDE	Ask your boss for ARRAY's...	`Wed Jan 29 1997 16:11`	11
	I was up at Gunstock last year and as I was going the lift a few smarty pants skiers went into the pipe. Now picture this, coverage was minimal, so the pipe was closed because the "crests" of the pipe were bare, one guy tries ride the pipe high and gets one leg in the pipe and one leg out, falls forward and does a "scritch" face plant in the tundra, then slides face first about 10 feet, spread eagle. He gets up and has a mouthful of dirt and dried grass. What an idiot.