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Conference bgsdev::open3d

Title:open3d
Notice:Kits on notes 3 and 4; Documents note 223
Moderator:WRKSYS::COULTER
Created:Wed Dec 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1306
Total number of notes:5260

1288.0. "Open3D 4.3 4D60T slow display" by ZPOVC::YINGYONG () Tue May 13 1997 01:51

    I installed an AS500 Workstation, 256 MB RAM, 4D60T PowerStorm card to
    run an application CMOLD.  It was to benchmark against SGI.
    
    The results: The batch jobs(without display) were 4 times faster than
    SGI, BUT the CAD/CAM jobs, those that rotate and mash a model on the
    screen performed unbeliveably slow, the comments from the customer was
    that it was even slower from a Petium Pro PC.
    
    Customer showed me the performance on the SGI WS, it was very good
    (Alpha is excellent).  The Alpha is running DU 4.0, Open3D 4.3 with
    4D60T, is there anything to change to make it work, at least
    presentably fast to justify that it's an ALPHA.
    
    Looks like it's the graphics problem to me.
    
    Regards.
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1288.1WRKSYS::COULTERIf this typewriter can't do it, ...Tue May 13 1997 03:085
    At face value, it sounds like you're doing software rendering
    instead of hardware rendering.  But there's no way to tell,
    based on what you've said here.  Always dangerous to speculate
    without any other data.
    
1288.2More information, please?PKOPW1::DOTYRuss Doty, Graphics and MultimediaTue May 13 1997 13:4010
    Please provide additional information, including the application (and
    company contact information -- we don't automatically recognize all
    applications by their name), test case for reproducing the problem and
    any additional information that will help in identifying the problem.
    
    Any information that you can provide on the display is helpful:
    Shading? Lighting? Texturing? Overlays? Special requirements?
    
    Thanks,
    Russ Doty
1288.3C-mold ZPOVC::YINGYONGWed May 14 1997 09:157
    The application is C-MOLD  96.10.  Didn't have much information other
    than those I can obtain from the Web www.cmold.com.
    
    Have tried out a 4D40 card and the performance was good except for the
    resolution.
    
    Rgds.
1288.4WRKSYS::COULTERIf this typewriter can't do it, ...Wed May 14 1997 15:534
    The 4D40T out-performed the 4D60T?  That's also hard to understand.
    
    Why was the resolution different?  What resolutions were involved?
    
1288.5C-MOLD config guide ?ZPOVC::POHINGThu May 15 1997 02:3623
    
    Hi,
    
    when the 4D40T was tested with C-MOLD on the AS500, the color display
    on the monitor is not rich. In lay man's term there is a line between
    the shade of red & orange. So according to the C-MOLD technical guy,
    the color supported by the graphics card is not good so we tried the
    4D60T.
    
    I suspect that the 4D60T may not be the official supported graphics
    card . 4D40T may be  & we know 4D20 runs pretty well too at another
    site.
    
    Could we have missed out something ? Like a different driver for the
    graphics card ?
    
    If someone familiar with C-MOLD tuning to make it run on the
    ALphastation, that will ready help. 
    
    Thanxs.
        
    Rgds,
    Poh Ing
1288.6WRKSYS::COULTERIf this typewriter can't do it, ...Thu May 15 1997 03:0910
    Textures and texture memory may be an issue here ...
    
    (1)  Does the application use/require texture mapping?
    
    (2)  If so, is there texture memory actually installed
    	 on either the 4D40T or the 4D60T?
    
    Not having texture memory will slow things down a lot, if
    it's trying to do texture mapping.
    
1288.7VGA mode on 4D40T?WRKSYS::CHALTASBasketball is a peaceful planet!Thu May 15 1997 13:3710
    The 4D40T and 4D60T should have presented *identical* colors on
    the screen.  It may be that the 4D40T was installed without Open3D,
    in which case DIGITAL UNIX treats it as a VGA device with only 16
    possible colors (rather than 16 *million* possible colors), and very
    low resolution (640x480 or so as opposed by 1280x1024).  If the
    application was doing software rendering in both cases, then 
    the low resolution of VGA mode could have a big (positive) impact
    on performance.
    
    George
1288.8SWAGKEIKI::WHITEFri May 23 1997 07:126
    
       Maybe you ought to touch bases with the authors of 1285.* Or as a test
    use a remote client.
    
    						Bill