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1282.0. "How to install UNIX with a PowerStorm 4D40T ?" by NNTPD::"detlef@rto.dec.com" (detlef schmier) Wed Apr 30 1997 20:22

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NNTPD::"detlef@rto.dec.com" "Detlef Schmier"         27 lines  29-APR-1997
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Hi,

I would like to know what I can do to install Digital UNIX on a system
which has a PowerStorm 4D40T.

This card is only started in VGA mode. Can I get a higher resolution during
installation ?

Open3D, which supports this card is installed at a later time.

Thanks in advance

Detlef.

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MAYNRD::MCCARTNEY                                     7 lines  29-APR-1997
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For initial install, you will only get the low res VGA mode.  You need the DDX
to get higher resolution.  To get the DDX you must install Open3D.

If this is a problem for you or your customer, contact the Open3D folks.  They
feel this is a completely acceptable solution.

Irene

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HYDRA::DONSBACH "Jeff Donsbach, Software Partner Engineering, DTN 297-6862" 6
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    NT is installed similarly, in VGA mode and then you can install
    the real driver after NT is installed. Hey, at least you still
    get a graphical installation!

    Jeff D.


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NNTPD::"detlef@rto.dec.com" "Detlef Schmier"          8 lines  29-APR-1997
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                               -< yes, but ... >-

> Hey, at least you still get a graphical installation!
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Yes, but the windows are overlapping and not all buttons are visible.

Is this a real pro ?

Detlef.
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NNTPD::"detlef@rto.dec.com" "Detlef Schmier"          9 lines  30-APR-1997
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                        -< This is not a solution !!! >-

I talked to the customer and he pointed out, that this is *not* a solution
for him. With the VGA resolution, he is not able configure the system
correct.

Any idea ?

regards
        Detlef.
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HELIX::SONTAKKE                                       8 lines  30-APR-1997
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    Then it should be pretty simple to reproduce.  Plug in one of the TGA
    or TGA-2 card with the switchpack/rotary to VGA mode and watch what
    happens during the graphics installation.

    If the the windows are overlapping and not all buttons are visible,
    then that's a bug in the base system and not Open3D issue.

    - Vikas

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MAYNRD::MCCARTNEY                                     8 lines  30-APR-1997
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If, however, the customer is saying he needs the full 1280x1024 or larger
resolution during install, you need to talk to the Open3D folks.  The easiest
way to have this happen would be to include the 2D support for these cards
in the base os.  We (USG) have asked about this several times.  Open3D has
always responded that they don't want to do this.  They don't see any
advantage
to it.

Irene


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    We're not happy with this situation, but all the steps to
    improve it are very difficult, both in Open3D and on the 
    USG side.  For example, why should the install process 
    REQUIRE 1280x1024 or larger, prior to installing the 2D
    support for a card?  All that can be guaranteed for Digital
    or 3rd-party cards PRIOR to installing the unique driver
    and 2D support is "VGA mode 800x600".  The base install 
    process should require only that much, up to a point where 
    the specific device support can be installed.
    
    That's something entirely within USG's province, and satisfies
    everyone.  They don't seem to see any advantage to it; they 
    feel this is a completely acceptable solution.  Seems our UNIX
    should be as good as our NT.