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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

3148.0. "Need advice on gifts for new lead guitarist" by HERIAM::SADLER (DTN:223-5670 -- US Custom Learning Services Manager) Mon Dec 11 1995 19:12

    I need some advice on effects pedals etc. as gifts for my son -- aged 13.
    
    He's been playing guitar and taking weekly lessons for about 9 months
    now and is getting on pretty well. He's formed a band and they're
    playing some gigs at school and so on.
    
    He's playing a mix of stuff with emphasis on bands like Nirvana, Green
    Day, Alice in Chains, REM, as well as Floyd and some 12 bar and rock
    'n roll
    
    I'm thinking of getting him one or more effects pedals for Christmas
    but (as a drummer whose last exposure to this stuff was when AC30s were
    new and exciting) am totally confused by the selection of stuff I'm
    offered.
    
    Any suggestions as to what would be the first 1-3 units I shoud get
    him?
    
    Any other guitarband related suggestions also welcomed!
    
    Cheers
    
    Andy 
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3148.1ToyZ!BSS::MANTHEIJust another outta work guitar playerMon Dec 11 1995 19:5430
    Andy.
    Congrats on having a musical son!   May your years be filled with
    music - (that you can stand to listen to!)
    
    I haven't bought a stomp box in so long, some of the brands I thought
    were cool, might not be worth stepping on...   
    
    Here's something that's always good - get A/C adaptors for them.  The
    battery headaches are not worth it.  There are cases (as cheap as $19)
    that hold the stomp boxes and have power supplies built in to them, and
    are the way to go.     If you don't have one of those cases, it's easy
    to break the wires on the A/C adapters.
    
    I've owned Ibanez, Boss, and MXR boxes.   All had good points - could
    you get your son to try them out and pick a couple without giving away
    the surprise?
    
    If you are forced to choose without his input, my picks for the first
    3 would be:
    Distortion/Overdrive (something with more than one sound - ie: a grunge
    pedal would be rather limiting.)
    
    Compresser/Sustainer
    
    Digital Delay   (should also be able to do chorus and flange effects)
    
    Have fun!
    Hope you get lots of opinions!   (we all have at least one..)
    /=\
    
3148.2KDX200::COOPERYou're Aunty ...Aunty social!Mon Dec 11 1995 20:235
    Slight nit - your average ddl pedal (as opposed to the a rack mounted
    DDL, ala SDE1000) won't do flange/chorus or ?? cuz there is no
    modulation control.
    
    EQ, DDL, Chorus, etc...  Good ideas!
3148.3Ho Ho Ho...CUSTOM::ALLBERYJimTue Dec 12 1995 10:5012
    My first two picks would be a distortion/overdrive and a chorus.  The
    third is a tough pick (for myself, its a volume/wah, but your son
    would probably think otherwise).
    
    As far as brands, if you stick with Boss or DOD, you'll probably do
    fine.  Also, the Ibanez sound tank series appears to offer excellent
    performance for the price: the TS-5 tube screamer overdrive is 
    particularly noteworthy (pun intended).
    
    Ditto on the AC adapter recommendation.
    
    Jim
3148.4FREEBE::REAUMEvintage rackerTue Dec 12 1995 11:415
     
      I'd second the Boss recommendation. Their pedals aren't the cheapest,
    but they are solidly built and there are cases designed to hold them.
    One in particular hold three pedals and has a handy cover and handle to
    carry them in. 
3148.5BUSY::SLABOUNTYDo you wanna bang heads with me?Tue Dec 12 1995 13:0011
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BUSY::SLABOUNTY "Be gone - you have no powers here"   6 lines  21-NOV-1995 10:30
                          -< Guitar pedals for sale >-
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	Guitar pedals, $30 each or best offer [new $80-$90]:

	BOSS BF-2 Flanger
	DOD FX56 American Metal
    
3148.6RICKS::CALCAGNIFast, Cheap, Good: choose any twoTue Dec 12 1995 15:1112
    I've heard good things about the American Metal pedal; seems to be a
    popular basic cruncher and a good choice for a young player in their
    first band.
    
    Given a choice between flange and chorus, I'd probably opt for a
    flanger.  I find it a little more subtle and useful, but this is
    a matter of taste.
    
    The pair in -1 seem near ideal.
    
    /rick
    
3148.7PIET01::DESROCHERSpsdv.pko.dec.com/tomd/home.htmlTue Dec 12 1995 15:296
    
    	Definitely delay and distortion / overdrive.
    
    	Chorus and flanger later, if at all.
    
    	Tom
3148.8POLAR::KFICZERETue Dec 12 1995 16:538
    I'd suggest you take him down to the local music store and let himw try
    a few. See what he likes,or at least have an idea before you buy.A lot
    of effects just end up in a box in the closet, or sold to the second
    hand store for pennies.Speaking of second hand music stores....try one!
    You can probably pick up used effects for half the price of new in mint
    shape.
    
    -kev
3148.9NETCAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Tue Dec 12 1995 19:243
    Has he got any pedals already?  Hard to believe he doesn't.  Sneak
    around and find out what, then tell us.  Maybe that will help decide
    what to get.
3148.10BSS::MANTHEIJust another outta work guitar playerTue Dec 12 1995 19:375
    Yeah, sneak around.   And if you get caught, tell 'im you've been given
    permission from "us".
    Yeah, that's the ticket.  We'll cover ya..
    
    
3148.11USCTR1::pelkey.ogo.dec.com::pelkeyprofessional hombreThu Dec 14 1995 11:0418
well, here's a question ..
what's he got for an amp ??


he may not need anymore distortion than what the amps
providing...

Pedals:  There's only TWO musts, (given the amps distortion is
sufficent.)  1. Delay  2. Chours
IMHO..

Also, if you think about what you'd spend on pedals, you may
also wanna check out a multi effect rack unit instead of
pedals..  btw.. most of this is personal preference,, so it's hard for
me to really nail down options with what I know about your sons
situation..


3148.12BUSY::SLABOUNTYA Momentary Lapse of ReasonTue Dec 19 1995 14:236
    
    	Andy is now the proud owner of a BOSS Flanger and a DOD American
    	Metal.
    
    	And I don't have to keep carting them around with me.  8^)
    
3148.13All set...HERIAM::SADLERDTN:223-5670 -- US Custom Learning Services ManagerWed Dec 20 1995 19:446
    And he tried them out tonight while the offspring were out 
    And they sound GREAT!
    
    Thanks to all 
    
    Andy
3148.14RICKS::CALCAGNIFast, Cheap, Good: choose any twoThu Dec 21 1995 10:316
>>    And he tried them out tonight while the offspring were out 
    
    just remember, you gotta keep em separated
    
    /sorry :-)
    
3148.15NETCAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Thu Dec 21 1995 11:082
    Sounds good... the Boss flanger (the purple thing) is an awesome little
    ditty.  Can't imagine why I sold mine!