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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

3113.0. "Help me price this stuff??" by KDX200::COOPER (Animal Instinct...) Tue Aug 29 1995 19:55

    Help me price this stuff...
    
    Recently, my best-pal passed away from cancer; I'm bummed, but that's 
    another note.  His widow has since asked me to unload all his gear.
    Well, we're talking a HUGE list of stuff.  I need some help coming up
    with fair prices on the gear.
    
    I'll start off with:
    
    AMP (Applied Music Products) B420.  Rack mounted 420wt bass head,
    xover, compressor, loop, etc...  This thing screams, but I don't
    know what it's worth....
    
    SWR two-way bass cab - 15" low, ported anna tweeter.
    
    Theile Ported 15" cab loaded with a 400wt EV.
    
    Yamaha BB8000 (?) five-string bass, active electronics, neck-thru,
    etc.
    
    Can you folks help??
    
    Thanks!
    jc
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3113.1CITYFS::KNIGHTPTue Aug 29 1995 23:563
    sorry about your mate coop.
    
    P.K.
3113.2KDX200::COOPERAnimal Instinct...Wed Aug 30 1995 12:4626
    Thanks PK - It's a real drag when you lose a good pal, and a good
    musician.  It's worse when he was 33 and had three young boys.
    Cancer blows.
    
    I've got some corrections to the base (bass?) note:
    
    The Bass Guitar is a Yamaha BB5000A.  It's neck-thru, Gotoh
    bridge/tail, rosewood fretboard, and pearlish-white.
    
    The AMP is Amplified Music Products, BH420, has lo/high eq, plus a four
    band parametric eq, FX loop, bi-amp and full-range outs,
    compressor/limiter blah-blah.  It comes in a two space rack package.
    I'm not really positive about the output power, but I know it's loud
    (like a GK800 loud).
    
    The SWR Cab is a "Basic Two Way" model, has a port in the back, plus an
    attenuator...bi-amp and full range.  The thing is like new, as he
    bought it jsut before he got sick.
    
    Also added to the pile is a Ampeg "Gemini 12" 1x12 combo.  All-tube,
    (2) 6V6 valves, tremolo circuit, foot switch, two channels... The
    speaker inside sez Fender on it, and it's blue... Tubes are all new.
    
    I *like* this little amp, and may keep it for fun - but just so I can
    balance the books - whats it worth??
                                                                        
3113.3hope this helpsMILKWY::JACQUESVintage taste, reissue budgetWed Aug 30 1995 13:0417
    Coop, sorry for your loss. This is truly a sad story. 
    
    Since none of this gear is considered "vintage" except for the 
    Ampeg Gemini amp, I would value the gear as such:
    
    	Average resale value on the used market would be 50-60% of
    the original selling price when new. 
    
    	As far as the Ampeg amp, I've seen these selling anywhere from
    $100 upto about $250, depending on the condition. I assume this is
    one of the older amps with swirled vinyl covering and chicken-head
    knobs. These amps sound really nice when cranked. A lot like a
    Deluxe reverb.  It's fortunate that this amp uses 6V6 power tubes.
    Some of the ampegs used tubes that are no longer available. What
    are the preamp tubes in this amp?
    
    	Mark
3113.4KDX200::COOPERRuffRuff - BowWow!Wed Aug 30 1995 13:2011
    Well, this Ampeg amp was modified to accept 6V6's; I know, cuz I helped
    do the mod.  The old power tubes were 7591's.  It does sound cool though.  
    It's big too - Twin size with one speaker.  PreAmp toobs are:
    
    (3) 12AX7's (PreAmp)
    (1) 6CG7    (Rectifier?)
    (1) 7191    (Driver???)
    
    BTW - You should HEAR this thing thru a 4x12 with the volume up!!
    Wow!!
         
3113.5double-edge swordMILKWY::JACQUESVintage taste, reissue budgetWed Aug 30 1995 14:258
    The fact that the amp has been modified is both a blessing and a curse.
    It's a blessing as the mods may have improved the amp and made it more
    serviceable. It's a curse because it detracts from the vintage value of
    the original amp. 
    
    I'd still value it around $200.
    
    Mark
3113.6ASABET::donip10.ogo.dec.com::pelkeyFri Sep 01 1995 00:2316
re:0

Ouch Coop,,  what a tragedy..  this hit's sort of close to
home,, My brother inlaw , who incidently is also 33 and
plays bass, came close last year (intenstinal Cancer) he's 
recovering now  after loosing 50% of his small intestines, 
and part of his  stomach, but thank God, looks like he'll
be one of the lucky  ones,  We came *way* to close... 
he's one of the best friends I have, and easily the best
Bass player I've ever worked with..


My condolances to friends and family..  Hope the wife and 
kids can manage...  good luck with the equipment..

/ray
3113.7need replacement value for these itemsOUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallFri Dec 15 1995 00:5811
    I need to estimate replacement value on these items and haven't kept in
    touch with the market enough to know what the going rate is.  Any help
    on the market value of these items would be greatly appreciated.
    
    thanks,
    Mike
    
    1990 Ibanez RG550         : $300?
    1966 Fender Mustang       : $250?
    1966 Vox Cambridge Reverb : $200?
    1972 Fender Super Reverb  : $200?
3113.8My guessesCUSTOM::ALLBERYJimFri Dec 15 1995 10:5615
    Assuming the stuff was in good condition...
    
    While the Mustang was an entry-level instrument, I think $250 is too
    low for a '66.  I'd guess at least $300, maybe even $400-$450.
    
    $200 for a '72 Super Reverb seems too low as well.  I'd say more like
    $250-$350.  The ridiculous prices people are paying for blackface
    Fenders seem to be causing the silver-face ones to go up too.
    I saw an early 70's Princeton Reverb the other day that the store was 
    asking $275 for...
    
    I'd recommend picking up an issue of Vintage Guitar and checking the
    ads to get a better idea.
    
    Jim
3113.9CTPCSA::GOODWINFri Dec 15 1995 11:095
    
    I know of another noter who sold a silver face super reverb for $400.
    
    /Steve
    
3113.10KDX200::COOPERHeh heh - Not likely palSun Dec 17 1995 23:2211
    Exsqueeze me, but REPLACEMENT VALUE (as far as Musical Instruments and
    Insurance is concerned) comes from what it would cost to replace the
    item.  This means retail, gang - and insurance companies (at least
    mine) would get that info from the Orion Blue book...
    
    Mike - These books are in MOST music stores and pawn shops.  Go visit,
    tell them why you are there, and ask to look a few items up.  :-)
    jc
    
    
                                                                     
3113.11POWDML::BUCKLEYReason for the SeasonMon Dec 18 1995 10:462
    $300 is too low for the RG550 -- a brand new one will cost you ~$650
    now!!
3113.12OUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallMon Dec 18 1995 13:361
    I thought they didn't make RG550s anymore?
3113.13still, used they're fetching $450 in Boston areaPOWDML::BUCKLEYReason for the SeasonMon Dec 18 1995 15:295
    
    For 96?  Not sure -- they were still available a year or so ago when I
    asked, and I was shocked to hear they were around $750 list!!
    
    I have no idea what the current Ibanez production line up is like now?