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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2918.0. "Albums to Jam along with" by NACAD::HERTZBERG (History: Love it or Leave it!) Thu Apr 21 1994 17:39

    
    Speaking of good jamming CDs (ref. 2917.3), I've always meant to enter
    a note a see what folks throw on the stereo when they want to play
    along.
    
    I'll agree that Spin Doctors are decent choice... I especially love to
    play along with "Shinbone Alley," "Little Miss...," and others.
    
    But by far the best guitar jamming CD I know of is Tom Petty's Full
    Moon Fever.  That disc is _stuffed_ full of great guitar tunes.
    
    I'd be interested to hear more suggestions.
    
    							Marc
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2918.1I Wanna Jam It With YouTROOA::BUCKTONSTEVE BUCKTON @TBYThu Apr 21 1994 17:4517
    I do this all the time. My faves..not in order
    
    Johnny Winter (anything)
    Dire Straits - 1st Album & Communique
    Cream - Disraeli Gears
    Jeff Beck - Beckola
    Stones - Let It Bleed
    
    I can go on and on. But..I got a new band and it's working out real
    good so the stereo jamming has gone to the back of the line.
    
    
    
    Steve
    TBay
                  
    
2918.2TECRUS::ROSTMotivation: what good is it?Thu Apr 21 1994 18:4410
    
    Ventures - Play Along With The Ventures
    
    John Lennon - Two Virgins
    
    An Evening With Wild Man Fischer
    
    Anthony Braxton - For Alto
    
    						Thurston
2918.3DREGS::BLICKSTEINLight to dark, dark to lightThu Apr 21 1994 18:526
    Good Rats - "Tasty" and "Rats to Richs"
    Blackfoot - "Flyin' High", "No Reservations"
    Billy Cobham - "Spectrum"
    Bad Company - anything
    Mott the Hoople - anything
    SRV - lots of things
2918.4RICKS::CALCAGNII Got You Babe (Slight Return)Thu Apr 21 1994 18:5610
    I like this idea for a topic; there ARE albums that just seem made for
    playin along with.
    
    Was doing this one just last night:
    
    	Derek and the Dominoes Live (the newly re-issued one with extra
         tracks)
    
    /slowfoot
    
2918.5GOES11::HOUSEAren't you glad I asked?Thu Apr 21 1994 19:109
    At various points in the past I have enjoyed playing along with:
    
    Hendrix - Band of Gypsies
    Ramones - Ramonesmania
    CCR - Best of..
    Devo - Are We Not Men
    Rolling Stones - some early best of compilation
    
    many others...
2918.6SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideThu Apr 21 1994 19:237
        Sesame Street Live - the Sesame Street Players
        
        Toughie: "C is for Cookie" - needed a capo at the 5th and 21st frets!
        
        C. Monster
        
        
2918.7FRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixThu Apr 21 1994 19:261
    Southern Steel - Steve Morse
2918.8GOES11::HOUSEAren't you glad I asked?Thu Apr 21 1994 19:271
    C'mon Mike, can't you play anything even remotely difficult?
2918.9how's this?FRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixThu Apr 21 1994 19:401
    Cinammon Girl - Neil Young
2918.10LEDS::BURATIcluck?Thu Apr 21 1994 19:421
Probably anything by Jimmy McGriff.
2918.11Gotta learn those songs someday! :-)SSDEVO::LAMBERTI made life easy just by laughingThu Apr 21 1994 19:453
   My band's demo tape.

   -- Sam
2918.1267STNG::COOPERLet The Light Surround You!!Thu Apr 21 1994 22:042
Hmmm...  I like to Jam with anything by Judas Priest, and anything
by Tesla...  And a couple of select Queensryche toons.
2918.13"Eyes Of A Stranger"COMET::LAURICHFri Apr 22 1994 04:477
    
    
             Ditto on the Queensryche tunes! If you want to go crazy just
      do Mind Crime. Anything by Testament or Satch is good too.
    
    
                                   Jeffy
2918.14I jam air guitar with Steve Morse and the Hellecasters....NAVY5::SDANDREAPlonk, Roost, and Jam, what a country!Fri Apr 22 1994 14:0522
    this is so predictable....everyone's replies could have been written by
    their buddies.........
    
    You guys would never have guessed, but I like to jam along with:
    
    All of EC's stuff from Cream to Derek & the Doms
    
    SRV
    
    Bad Company
    
    Allmans
    
    Eagles
    
    Doobies
    
    Lynyardy Synyardy
    
    Warren Haynes
    
    
2918.15My PicksPOLAR::KRESICFri Apr 22 1994 14:0711
    
    Here's a few of mine:
    
    1/ B.B. King - "Live At The Regal"
    2/ Dire Straits - "1st" & "Making Movies"
    3/ John Mayall w/Eric Clapton Bluesbreakers
    4/ Allmon Bros. - "Live At Filmore"
    5/ Eric Clapton - "Money & Cigarettes" & "Derek & The Dominoes "
    6/ CCR - "Best Of"
    7/ Stones - "Exile On Main Street", "Sticky Fingers", "Goat Heads Soup"
    
2918.16POWDML::BUCKLEYRaptor -- Rules the Skies!Fri Apr 22 1994 14:086
    
    Yngwie Malmsteen albums!
    
    1) Steeler
    2) Alcatrazz - No Parole
    3) Rising Force!
2918.17 Foghat!ADROID::fosterSpelling originals since 1960Fri Apr 22 1994 14:381
2918.18these guys rock...heh..heh.hehRICKS::CALCAGNII Got You Babe (Slight Return)Fri Apr 22 1994 14:493
    Machine Head!
    
    "you're lazy, you just stay in bed"
2918.19BIGQ::DCLARKpatheticFri Apr 22 1994 15:263
    Sabbath, dude. I put .008's on and tune down 3 half-steps.
    
    Also, fer real, Just One Night by EC is my favorite jamming album.
2918.20TECRUS::ROSTMotivation: what good is it?Fri Apr 22 1994 16:3312
    Re: .19
    
    Yo, Dave...just spotted at Apple Country Market at the bottom of the
    hill below HLO2....
    
    
    A Sabbath *comic book* scripted by Geezer hisself!  
    
    Seriously...couldn't quite bring myself to spring the $3.95 for it,
    tho.  
    
    Waiting for Mahvishnu meets Dr. Octopus.... 
2918.21it's over, dude!RICKS::CALCAGNII Got You Babe (Slight Return)Fri Apr 22 1994 16:513
    Hey Rosty, you know you're old when you can't justify 4 clams for a Sab
    comic book!
    
2918.22a few past choices, and some new ones too!BLASTA::PelkeyLife aint for the squeamishFri Apr 22 1994 17:4922
Wow, Sabbath,, Machine head... brings back teen-age memories...

some vynil I wore out as a spry lad...

Boston (1st album)
Beck, (Blow-by-blow)
Areosmithy (get yer wigs)
Deep Purple (all of em..  was a blackmore freak)
Hendrix, (Just buy one, then buy another one, then buy another one..)
Sabbath, (Oh yea, like all of them too.  Mom hated Sabbath!....)

some Cd's I would a wore out recently if they was still vynil...

Gary Moore (Still got the blues)
Larry Carlton (on Solid Ground)
A bunch of Steeley Dan (Thanks to Cote!)
	- actually I found "a Decade of Steeley Dan" covered a lot of
	  ground..




2918.23Deep ForestLEDS::BURATIcluck?Sat Apr 23 1994 15:583
    Actually one of the best albums I've come across for this is something
    called "Deep Forest". It has some nice grooves on it. You can play all
    over and around them. (It's also great to just listen to.)
2918.24BIGQ::DCLARKpatheticMon Apr 25 1994 10:573
    re .20
    
    I'm there, dude
2918.25RICKS::CALCAGNII Got You Babe (Slight Return)Mon Apr 25 1994 12:034
    "Deep Forest"?  Is that some sort of field recording of pygmy chants
    overdubbed with new agey/world music backing? (at least, that's how I
    recall it described)
    
2918.26LEDS::BURATIkeep talkingMon Apr 25 1994 12:5421
    RE: Deep Forest

    Sort of. New agey? No. World music? Mmmmmaybe.

    This guy (whose name I don't recall) built these cool rhythm grooves
    around vocal phrases that he lifted off some Ethnic Sounds series CD
    ROM. I mean he actually turned out real "songs" this way, not just
    chants and rhythm loops. It's great stuff for layering guitar licks
    onto. It's a lot of fun to just listen to also.

    Being somewhat familiar with the process for going about assembling such
    compositions, I can barely fathom the amount of work that went into this
    album. I was highly skeptical when my wife showed me what she bought.
    She was in a record store shopping for classical CDs and heard it
    playing and loved it.

    I don't think that I can adequately describe it here. I don't know what
    to compare it to.

    --Ron

2918.27Ron's pick (with a bullet! <da-dum>)RICKS::CALCAGNII Got You Babe (Slight Return)Mon Apr 25 1994 13:273
    Hmmm, I saw this last week and decided to pass on checking it out, but
    if *you* like it then perhaps I'll reconsider...
    
2918.28LEDS::BURATIkeep talkingMon Apr 25 1994 13:314
>    if *you* like it then perhaps I'll reconsider...

    Well \rick, it ain't like ANYTHING else in my album collection. (BTW, I
    hate "new age", if that makes a difference. Yanni makes me yawny.)
2918.29ROCKER::KNOXRock'n'Roll RefugeeWed Apr 27 1994 16:0812
    
    
    my favs to beat my bass...
    
    Any Steely Dan (I got most of the charts, helps to keep up sight-reading)
    
    Any Larry Carlton
    
    Jeff Beck "Blow by Blow" and "Wired" (licks to live by!!)
    
    /Billy_K
    
2918.30DREGS::BLICKSTEINLight to dark, dark to lightWed Apr 27 1994 16:3517
    >  Any Larry Carlton
    
    I echo that, but particularly "Room 335".
    
    Another great album to jam to is "Spectrum" by Billy Cobham.
    
    First, it has some AWESOME playing by the late Tommy Bolin on it (by
    FAR his best IMHO).  Second the guitar is panned hard to one side
    so you can pan it to the other side and just jam to the backing tracks
    which are HOT!
    
    I love the SOUND of his guitar on this one too.   Moreso than any other
    album I've heard, this makes your stereo speaker sound as if it was
    the guitar amp.   You can almost imagine Bolin in the room with a cord
    running to your speaker.
    
    Other great bands to jam to:  Blackfoot and the Good Rats
2918.31tone recipeRICKS::CALCAGNII Got You Babe (Slight Return)Wed Apr 27 1994 16:554
    Re Tommy Bolin: I always liked his tone too and I remember once reading
    him describe how he got it.  The main ingredients: vintage Strat, bass
    control on the amp turned all the way up.
    
2918.32TECRUS::ROSTFrom the dance hall to hellWed Apr 27 1994 17:154
    But Rick, what about those Explorers I saw in pics of Bolin?  Maybe
    those were only for slide.
    
    							Brian
2918.33Tommy Bolin: So sad to waste such talentBRAT::PAGEThu Apr 28 1994 14:4326
    	Tommy Bolin really was a great guitarist-- a "player's player", I
    think. And one of the great "hired gun" guitarists of the '70's; he
    played on a wide variety of albums and was able to sound great at
    them all.

    	The Billy Cobham record was definitely a highlight. I liked his
    first solo LP "Teasin'" alot, although there were a few uninspiring
    tracks. 

    	On the other hand, there's an import album recorded with Deep
    Purple, "Live In Japan" I think, which was recorded during the
    height of his heroin addiction... the story goes something like
    he scored some bad heroin while on tour and it really messed up his
    arm for a while. This recording is from a gig at that time and his
    playing on it is atrocious.
    
    	Glen Hughes, fellow Deep Purple member and good friend of Tommy's,
    is also a favorite of mine... loved his vocals. His album with Pat
    Thrall (called "Hughes/Thrall", oddly enough) is a great rock LP.
    
    
    Brad
    (thinking alot about the damage heroin has done
    after watching "Turning Point" last night.)
    
2918.34Made In Japan-Tommy B.POLAR::KRESICThu May 26 1994 14:0912
    The "Made In Japan" CD (double live album) just has Ritchie Blackmore
    playing guitar on it. The guitar playing (as well as the band's
    playing) is really quite good. Tommy Bolin didn't play on this one,
    he wasn't mentioned in the liner notes. It's kind of strange what
    heroin did to various artists. The Stones seemed to put out there 
    best CD's (Sticky Fingers, Goat Head's Soup) while Keith Richards
    was heavy into heroin. I think Keith has cut back and is just into
    booze and cigarettes these days. 
    
    Keep On pickin' and grinnin'
    
    
2918.35GOES11::HOUSEAren't you glad I asked?Thu May 26 1994 14:194
    He's not talking about "Made In Japan" (a classic).  I think the one he
    means is "Live in Tokyo" or something, done several years later.
    
    gh
2918.36ABACUS::PAGEThu May 26 1994 16:5612
    
    	That's right, the live Deep Purple album I was referring to was
    not "Made In Japan", it was a more obscure import LP-- "Live In Tokyo"
    could be the correct title, I still haven't gotten around to digging
    out the LP at home.
    
    	I think "Made in Japan" features both Richie's best playing and
    Ian Gillan's best singing. "Live In Tokyo" is a whole other story...
    
    
    Brad
    
2918.37TECRUS::ROSTFrom the dance hall to hellFri May 27 1994 11:247
    Re: .33
    
    What is your data on Bolin's heroin use? I recall at the time of his
    death there was no such talk, he died from taking some sleeping pills
    after drinking all night.  
    
    							Brian
2918.38___ Wild Dogs ____SOLVIT::SNORAT::OLOUGHLINThe fun begins at 80!Fri May 27 1994 11:369
    
      Last few:  After hearing Bolin's "Teaser" album, which I liked alot, 
      I paid a little attention to the info surrounding his death.  Along
      with what Brian said, booze and sleeping pills, there was also a 
      small pharmacy stock residing in his belly that night.  Basically
      the guy partied himself to death.  Play & pay.
    
      Rick.  
    
2918.39Tuning HelpUBOHUB::LUNNSTue Jul 05 1994 07:5812
    I read with great interest the replies to this note but I have always
    been puzzled why many of my favorite albums seem to change tune
    between tracks.
    
    With the exception of 1 or 2 Eric Clapton records, namely - Money and
    Cigs. and Survivor, most of my classic rock and blues records vary
    slightly between tracks requiring all sharp or all flat adjustments to each
    string. 
    
    I've got a quality hi-fi - does anyone else have these problems and if
    so what Albums would you recommend, or is it my hi-fi ?
                                                           
2918.40Spectrum by Billy CobhamDREGS::BLICKSTEINLight to dark, dark to lightTue Jul 05 1994 12:0211
    One of my favorite albums to jam along to is "Spectrum" by Billy Cobham
    with (the late) Tommy Bolin on guitar.
    
    The tunes are basically long jams and the guitar is panned all the way
    to one side so if your turn the balance knob the other direction you
    get a world-class band to jam along with.
    
    And the tunes on it are really HOT!  It's mostly jazz artists, but
    IMHO that album definitely rocks.
    
    	db
2918.41Somewhere between E and Eb...PAVONE::TURNERTue Jul 05 1994 12:549
    re: .39
    Yeah, I've had this problem too, especially with older records (i.e.
    records recorded 20-30 years ago). I put it down to approximate tuning
    equipment, or even minor importance attached to the whole question of
    tuning to concert pitch.
    
    Sure is infuriating though!
    
    Dom  
2918.42TECRUS::ROSTThat O.J., what a cut up!Tue Jul 05 1994 14:549
    re: .39, .41
    
    Some records have the speed tweaked on purpose.  It used to be common
    to bump up the speed on singles to make them more "danceable".  A good
    example can be found on the James Brown "Star Time" box; the full
    version of "Papa's Got a Brand New Bag" is considerably slower than the
    single version (both are included).
    
    								Brian
2918.43exSPESHR::WAIBLETue Sep 06 1994 13:0019
    tuning to albums was always abother until I finally invested in a pitch
    controlled turntable. That's invaluable now. I think some of the
    problem as was pointed out might have been players simply taking
    whatever guitar wasclosest in tune and tuning everything to that. Also
    the recording process invovled a lot of steps that could have acounted
    for drift (one tape machine to the mastering machine to whatever other
    steps might have been invovled). I know playing along with my who
    albums alwaysrequired pitch adjusting the turntable. HMMMMMmmmm.
    I wonder if the really noticable pitch variations have been transferred
    to cd. Of course jimi Hendrix as well as a lot of modern day players
    tuned to eb to save a little on vocals.
    
    If i really want to jam with something or have to learn it, I copy it
    to tape and use my Ibenez RP100 which has a pitch control and little
    mixer built in. pretty nifty for doing hard rock jamming and homework
    at 11:30pm when the rest of the house is asleep!!
    
    						---Fred
    
2918.44Variable-speed cassette?DECWIN::RALTOWed Sep 14 1994 14:5515
    re: last few, pitch control
    
    Do these turntables and cassette players with pitch control do their
    thing by varying the speed of the drive, or by some electronic means?
    
    Aside from that, in a related area, it would be nice to have a
    cassette deck where I could adjust the actual speed over a fairly
    wide range (say, 2X).  I've got some old reel-to-reel tapes from
    the mid 60's that were recorded on a cheapo direct-drive recorder
    where the recording speed was, uh, "proportional" to the battery
    voltage, which was usually decreasing.  If I could copy them to
    cassette and then use such a variable-speed deck, it'd be great
    to hear some of those again.  Anyone ever hear of such a beastie?
    
    Chris
2918.45GOES11::HOUSEHow could I have been so blind?Wed Sep 14 1994 15:185
    Yes, the ones I've seen adjust the pitch by changing the speed of the
    drive.  I haven't seen any with a real wide range though, usually just
    goes a few steps.
    
    Greg
2918.46SSDEVO::LAMBERTSam, Subsystems Engineering @CXOWed Sep 14 1994 15:397
2918.47MPGS::MARKEYOooh baby, you smell like... food!Wed Sep 14 1994 15:5121
2918.48FRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Wed Sep 14 1994 17:551
    "Donny & Marie's Greatest Hits" as performed by Steve Morse
2918.49You make a good point there MikeDREGS::BLICKSTEINdbWed Sep 14 1994 18:073
    > "Donny & Marie's Greatest Hits" as performed by Steve Morse
    
    Yes, this proves that Morse can make ANYTHING sound good.
2918.50FRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Wed Sep 14 1994 18:301
    forgot to mention that this is for drummers.
2918.51SSDEVO::LAMBERTSam, Subsystems Engineering @CXOWed Sep 14 1994 18:474
   Wouldn't it be better to cover Karen Carpenter's music instead, then?

   -- Sam
   
2918.52POWDML::BUCKLEYwhy do we have to fall from grace?Wed Sep 14 1994 18:493
   >Wouldn't it be better to cover Karen Carpenter's music instead, then?
    
    Music to starve by??
2918.53Reelin' in the tearsDREGS::BLICKSTEINdbWed Sep 14 1994 19:051
    Mike's still reeling from Deep Purple replacing Satriani with Morse.
2918.54Morse is selling outFRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Wed Sep 14 1994 19:412
    It shows Morse is fed up with playing for no $$ in small clubs like
    Rhythms all his life.  He wants what all the great players have.
2918.55"Gonna miss ya"DREGS::BLICKSTEINdbThu Sep 15 1994 12:0217
    Ah, Mikey... you just insist on throwing stones from inside your glass
    house without even opening the window.
    
    I mean it's one thing to tour with Deep Purple (Morse is the only
    guitarist on the planet good enough to be described as "having his
    talent wasted being with Deep Purple").
    
    But if you look up "selling out" in the dictionary, it will tell you
    that selling out is defined by touring with Mick Jagger, which
    Satriani did before his doomed stint with Deep Purple.
    
    I mean... Mick Jagger... Mike.  Mick Jagger!   Remember him Mike?
    
    He's the guy who convinced the Stones to try disco when it was
    popular!!! 
    
    	db
2918.56Same old story, same old song and dance, my friendGOES11::HOUSEHow could I have been so blind?Thu Sep 15 1994 12:4911
>    I mean it's one thing to tour with Deep Purple (Morse is the only
>    guitarist on the planet good enough to be described as "having his
>    talent wasted being with Deep Purple").
    
    Given that Deep Purple have done basically nothing in the last 10
    years, and most of their memorable material was done 10 years before
    that, I'd say that most guitarists capable of playing the material
    would be wasting their talant playing those same old songs time and
    time again with them.
    
    Greg
2918.57USPMLO::DESROCHERSMine's made outta unobtainium!Thu Sep 15 1994 12:579
    
    	re: .55, db - er, let's see now.  Just who was the slug that
    	Satch replaced on that Jagger tour?  
    
    	Some no talent slug, for sure.  Had to have been.
    
    	Anyone remember...
    
    
2918.583-way battleDREGS::BLICKSTEINdbThu Sep 15 1994 13:216
    > re: .55, db - er, let's see now.  Just who was the slug that
    >  Satch replaced on that Jagger tour?
    
    Pat Martino?
    
    ;-)
2918.59Good timing on that catalog arrivalDECWIN::RALTOThu Sep 15 1994 14:5012
    re: pitch control cassette players
    
    Thanks for the info, several replies back there.  I think I've found
    something pretty close to what I'm looking for, in the Summer/Fall
    Musician's Friend catalog.  It's an Ibanez tape player with pitch
    control, with lots of other goodies (you can plug your guitar into
    it and even add distortion and chorus, if I recall), not bad for
    $130.  If I need to, I can make repeated slowdown/speedup dubs as
    one of the replies suggested, as well.
    
    Thanks,
    Chris
2918.60learned it in a guitar storeFRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Thu Sep 15 1994 16:227
    db, Satch toured with Jagger way back before the "Surfin'..." album
    came out.
    
    I'll give you this much: nobody could play "Smoke on the Water" quite
    like Morse.  BTW - where are you going since you're gonna miss me?
    
    Mike
2918.61DREGS::BLICKSTEINdbThu Sep 15 1994 16:357
    > db, Satch toured with Jagger way back before the "Surfin'..." album
    > came out.
    
    I think you've got your facts wrong.  I'm pretty sure he toured with
    Jagger recently.
    
    	db
2918.62YawnSSDEVO::LAMBERTSam, Subsystems Engineering @CXOThu Sep 15 1994 17:288
re:             <<< Note 2918.60 by FRETZ::HEISER "Maranatha!" >>>
   
   >	  BTW - where are you going since you're gonna miss me?
    
   Somewhere else, hopefully.

   -- Sam
   
2918.63FRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Thu Sep 15 1994 17:301
    If he did, then he's done it twice.
2918.64TAMRC::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPThu Sep 15 1994 17:423
Geez, guys!  Enough already!  I feel like I'm back in sixth grade! 

-Hal
2918.65;-)DREGS::BLICKSTEINdbThu Sep 15 1994 19:083
    > I feel like I'm back in sixth grade!
    
    HE STARTED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2918.66NYAHPOWDML::BUCKLEYwhy do we have to fall from grace?Thu Sep 15 1994 19:182
    
    DID NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!