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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2851.0. "Jazz blues chords please" by ULYSSE::WILSON (John, 828-5631) Tue Nov 09 1993 04:42

    I put a version of this in the Blues note (2845) but it was ignored in
    the excitement so I am starting a new one for jazz blues chord
    sequences. 
    
    Has anyone got any more jazz blues sequences like Danny's in 2845.99?
    If you have, would you post them? Is there a method of developing these
    blues sequences with more than three chords? They are great for playing
    the bass with.
    
    Here's one to start.
    
    
    ////  //// //// //  //
    A7    D7   A7   Em7 A7
    ////  //// //// //          //
    D7    D7   A7   C#half dim  F#7+9
    ////  //// //   //   //   //
    Bm7   E7   C#m7 F#7  Bm7  E7
    
    
    Regards
    
    John
    
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2851.1another oneRANGER::WEBERWed Nov 10 1993 15:5113
    As I had mentioned in the other note, alternate jazz changes are often
    built on IIm7-V7 and cycle of fifths substitutions, but there are many
    other possibilities. For a blues tune, the trick is to imply or state
    the tonic, subdominant and dominant key centers at the appropriate
    times. 
    
    (all chords voiced with root in bass) (:  : denotes bar lines)
    
    F6 F7: Bb6 Bdim7: F6 Am7: Cm7 F7: Bb13 Bb7: Bb7-5 Bb7 :
    F Gm7 : Am7 D7: Gm7 Am7 : Bb6 C13 C7-5:  F6 F7 Bb6 Bdim7: F6 C7
    
    
    Danny W.
2851.2Jazz-blues in BbPAVONE::TURNERThu Nov 11 1993 08:1119
    Here's another one (in Bb), though somewhat simpler than -1. 

    ////  //// //// //  //
    Bb7   Eb7  Bb7  Fm7 Bb7
    ////  //// //// ////
    Eb7   Eb7  Bb7  G7b9
    ////  //// //  //   //  //
    Cm7   F7   Bb7 G7b9 Cm7 F7

    Come to think of it, it bears a rather strong similarity to the one in
    the base note (jazz-blues plagiarism?!)

    Dom
    
    P.S. Does anyone else find those temporary key changes (the Vm7 chords
    in the fourth bar) sound a little uncomfortable?
    
    Dom  
2851.3TECRUS::ROSTMarcel Marceau's voice coachThu Nov 11 1993 09:2915
    Re: .2
    
    >P.S. Does anyone else find those temporary key changes (the Vm7 chords
    >in the fourth bar) sound a little uncomfortable?
    
    Not really...in the bass line it's almost a wash because the notes F,
    Ab, C, Eb all play OK against the Bb7 chord as well.
    
    Bb7 = Bb D F Ab
    
    Fm7 = F Ab C Eb  this is sort of like a Bb9/11 minus the root and third
    
    It's just a 2-5-1 heading into the Eb7 in bar five.
    
    							Brian
2851.4couldn't resistSSDEVO::LAMBERTI made life easy just by laughingThu Nov 11 1993 12:5116
re:                      <<< Note 2851.2 by PAVONE::TURNER >>>

>    Come to think of it, it bears a rather strong similarity to the one in
>    the base note (jazz-blues plagiarism?!)

   Just goes to show the inherent limitations of the genre, I guess.
   

   
   :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

   Please don't take this seriously, I'm just trying to capitalize on the
   absurdity of the "wars" notes.  (And if you _must_ make a rebuff please
   take it to one of those notes, and don't trash this one.)

   -- Sam (we explain for the humor impaired)
2851.5At least it's not I-IV-V though!PAVONE::TURNERThu Nov 11 1993 13:1111
     re: .4 
    
>>    Come to think of it, it bears a rather strong similarity to the one in
>>    the base note (jazz-blues plagiarism?!)

 >  Just goes to show the inherent limitations of the genre, I guess.
    
    You know, I was half thinking of adding that myself when I originally
    wrote the note! I just knew some shredder would comment...
    
    Dom
2851.6It was meant completely as a JOKESSDEVO::LAMBERTI made life easy just by laughingThu Nov 11 1993 13:409
   Shredder?  Me?  BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  Actually, after last night, I think about
   the only thing I'm capable of playing right are I-IV-Vs...  I knew I
   shoulda stuck to bass.  :-)

   Oh, BTW, those are cool progressions.  Please do keep posting 'em.  I'll
   try to "tab out" a few myself.

   -- Sam (who listens to everything, but can only play the easy stuff (and
	   "emotionlessly" at that))
2851.7Coltrane's progressionsRANGER::WEBERThu Feb 10 1994 10:558
    The March, 1994 issue of Downbeat magazine has an article by David
    Baker on the "Coltrane trick", a method of extending chord progressions
    that Coltrane perfected on his "Giant Steps" album. Baker has written
    about this at length in several of his excellent books on jazz
    improvisation. If you are unfamiliar with this technique, the article
    is a good start. If you don't own "Giant Steps," shame on you!
    
    Danny W.
2851.8I would like a copyULYSSE::WILSONJohn, 828-5631Wed Mar 30 1994 09:549
    Danny
    
    Could you possibly send me a copy of the article in the internal mail?
    Downbeat is hard to get here in France. Also I would be grateful for
    the full titles of the books as I would be interested in ordering them.
    
    regards
    
    John
2851.9Thanks for sendingULYSSE::WILSONJohn, 828-5631Thu May 05 1994 13:2618
    DAnny
    
    Thanks for sending the Downbeat article. I was on a music course last
    week and learned a lot about harmony and substitutions in blues: blues
    in varying degrees of complexity was the standard chord sequence used
    in most classes.
    
    Jamey Aebersold's "Jazz Aids Handbook" which comes free if you order
    one of his books contains a series of increasingly complicated blues 
    progressions by Dan Haerle, culminating in:
    
    FM7 :  F#m7  B7 : EM7 EbM7 : DbM7
    BbM7:  Bm7   E7 : AM7      : Am7 D7
    GM7 :  GbM7     : FM7 AbM7 : GM7 Gb
    
    
    John