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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2669.0. "Sonic Tricks From Your Guitar?" by DPE::STARR (Rage Against The Machine) Mon Jan 25 1993 14:09

I went to see a band called Rage Against The Machine last week, and the
guitarist in this band just blew me away. Not really with his technical 
ability (which is above average but nothing special), but with some of the 
sounds he got out of his guitar! 

The album (on Epic) carries the disclaimer "There is no sampling or keyboards
on this album. All sounds are created by guitar, drums, and bass." The
disclaimer is needed, because this guy does some really cool things that
don't sound like guitars at all! 

Aside from Adrian Belew (and of course Hendrix), there don't seem to be 
too many people experimenting with the types of sounds they can get from 
a guitar, at least not in mainstream music.

So the question is - do you ever use your guitar to get some really weird
sounds? Anyone wanna share some of their secrets for some of their favorite
non-guitar-like sounds?

alan
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2669.1smart *ss.......NAVY5::SDANDREASend lawyers, guns, and money!Mon Jan 25 1993 14:163
    Mine makes a sick "cracking" sound when I drop it........
    
    8^)
2669.2EZ2GET::STEWARTFight fire with marshmallows!Mon Jan 25 1993 17:089
    
    
    
    
    Hey, I'm still working on getting "guitar-like" sounds out of mine...
    
    
    
    
2669.3GOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Mon Jan 25 1993 17:175
>    Hey, I'm still working on getting "guitar-like" sounds out of mine...
    
    Bwhahahahaha!!!!  That one really struck home for me! 
    
    Greg
2669.4GIDDAY::KNIGHTPI'll get you with my disentigrating pistolTue Jan 26 1993 00:484
    A sound not created by the guitar but caused by the guitar...
    
    SHUT THAT BLOODY THING UP!!!!!.....(insert spouse' name here)
    P.K.
2669.5LUNER::KELLYJGenuine '59 Coupe DeVilleTue Jan 26 1993 09:003
    A semi-non-guitar sound I ripped off from Adrian Belew: all treble,
    volume up, play the strings on the other side of the nut. Makes a
    'ching-ching; kinda sound.  Fun to play as a way to get out of a solo.
2669.6STRATA::KLOdon't get me wrongTue Jan 26 1993 11:373
    
    Listen to this song "YANKEE ROAD" Vai make the guitar talk,laugh and
    ect.
2669.7LEDS::BURATITue Jan 26 1993 14:043
    re: making a guitar talk

    Listen to Hendrix's opening wah-wah stuff on Still Rainin' Still Dreamin'. 
2669.8Volume pedal and delay tricksDREGS::BLICKSTEINHere all life aboundsTue Jan 26 1993 14:2040
    THere's the classic volume-pedal/delay trick.
    
    You need a delay setup about like:
    
    	Delay: .5-2 seconds
    	Regen/Feedback: 25%-75%
    
    You turn the guitar off (either with your guitar's volume control or
    with a volume pedal.  You pick some notes or a strum a chord and then
    bring up the volume semi-slowly.
    
    Because there is no "attack" you don't get any "slapback/repeat" type
    sound out of the delay.  Instead, the delay gives you what amounts
    to extra-long sustain and serious chorusing.
    
    On a rhythm pickup, this sounds very string-section like with the tone
    control up, and sort flutey with the tone control down.
    
    With the lead pickup, you can make it sound sorty brassy.
    
    ---------
    
    If you speed up the process of picking notes and opening up the volume,
    you end up with essentially what Eddie Van Halen did on "Cathedral"
    which is on "Diver Down".   You can play some very cool arpeggios
    easily because the delay is actually playing most of the notes.
    
    ---------
    
    This same setting is also the basis of the Adrian Belew "Rhino" sound.
    
    For that you must pick a bunch of low strings bent fairly way down with
    a vibrato bar (and the volume off)....  you release the vibrato arm
    as you increase the volume and then shut the off. 
    
    I'm not sure if this is how Adrian does it, but you get a very animal
    like roar this way.
    
    Play it on somewhat higher strings and it's kinda more like an
    elephant.
2669.9DPE::STARRRage Against The MachineTue Jan 26 1993 14:5634
Here are a couple things that I noticed Tom (the guitarist in Rage Against
The Machine) doing that night:

  - pressing the whammy all the way down until the strings were hanging
    loose, then use a single finger to press a loose string against the
    pickup real fast, over and over (similar to tapping); while doing that, 
    use the whammy to move the pitch up and down

  - at one point he used a nail (not a fingernail, but a real nail!), and
    he would rub the top of the head along the low-E string

  - for one solo, he played a slide way up close to the bridge pickup,
    while using the pickup selector to turn the guitar on and off, and
    also while using his forearm to raise and lower the pitch via whammy
    bar (this looked tricky!)

  - he rubbed his finger along the low-E string (generating a sound similar
    to when Eddie Van Halen does this at the beginning of "Atomic Punk")

It's very tough to describe the sounds he got from these tricks - as I said,
they weren't normal guitar sounds at all! If you pick up the record (and
I highly recommend it, although I will say it's not for everyone), I can
tell you how he made certain sounds, since it was all duplicated live in
concert.

FYI, he used a Charvel/Jackson and a Telecaster all night through a 
Marshall JCM800 and 4x12 cab. His effects were very low-budget (especially
compared to what a lot of people in this file have! 8^); a Cry-Baby
wah-wah, a Boss 7-band EQ, a Digitech whammy pedal (he uses this a bunch),
a DOD chorus, and one other stompbox that I think was a octaver.

(He's also a Harvard graduate, in case you're interested!)

alan
2669.10ZYMRGY::samUp on Cripple CreekTue Jan 26 1993 15:414
   Sounds like this guy's been taking lessons from Reeves Gabrels of Tin
   Machine.  (Or reading Reeve's articles in GFTPM...  :-))

   -- Sam
2669.11can you make yer axe sound like a vacuum?NAVY5::SDANDREASend lawyers, guns, and money!Tue Jan 26 1993 15:575
    This old fart has never really been impressed with sounds other than
    cool tones, neat chord voicings, and really tasty chops.  But then
    again, who, besides me, cares what *I* think!?
    
    8^)
2669.12GOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Tue Jan 26 1993 17:075
>      -< can you make yer axe sound like a vacuum? >-
    
    Naturally!  The sound that comes out of mine sucks pretty often!
    
    gh
2669.13KDX200::COOPERHello me, it's me again!Tue Jan 26 1993 18:4216
Excellent sounding thing to try:

Get a KittyHawk 100wt head and drop kick it across the stage with 
the volume on full blast...  Talk about microphonic toobs!!
Wow!

Here's another one that our very own BullDawg Dandrea invented...

Put down a Charvel in it's stand nice and cozy...But say and/or think 
something nasty about pointy headstocks...and bump the wireless
transmitter so the battery pops out - also to be performed with a Kitty
Hawk 100watter at full blast...

Watch the drunks SCATTER !!

jc
2669.1410's or 12's ?BSS::STPALY::J_KUHNVU: 0db [......../] +10dbTue Jan 26 1993 19:3312
>Get a KittyHawk 100wt head and drop kick it across the stage with 
>the volume on full blast...  Talk about microphonic toobs!!
>Wow!

    Ok, but should the heads speaker output be plugged into a cabinet
    first?
    
    Do Hi-Watts have spring reverbs? Would your idea work with the reverb
    all the way up also? 
    
    
    
2669.15Oh yeah, springs roolGOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Tue Jan 26 1993 19:344
    Giving an amp with a spring reverb a good swift kick (not enough to
    make it fly across a stage though...) always produces a fun sound!
    
    Greg
2669.16KDX200::COOPERHello me, it's me again!Tue Jan 26 1993 21:3012
    I'm sure a spring reverb would only ADD to the effect - HiWatt
    or other.  The speaker cord makes a nice sound as the tension
    releif gives way to tension, and those last few strands of
    Monster cable fry...Ohhh what a sound!
    
    I highly recommend having your tape machine in RECORD though,
    as it can get a tad expensive.  
    
    I wonder where that head is now ??  They sure make 'em tuff!!
    :-)
    
    jc (Quality Control Engineer - Roy Electronics)
2669.17don't try this at homeGJO001::REITERWed Jan 27 1993 00:2714
    Saturday after I changed strings I was tuning with a Sabine ST-1500
    tuner in line after a DoD Flanger and a Dunlop Cry-Baby... with the
    Cry-Baby at the top of its travel, I picked up MORSE CODE CW SSB
    broadcast, the computer-generated keying you hear on a shortwave radio,
    interspersed with a swooshing sound.
    
    Not until I called my wife and 12-year old son over (after about 10
    minutes of screwing with the sounds) did they realize that the 200
    tones per second was interference and not my guitar!!!!! I really had
    to shake my head on that one --- does anyone really think anyone else
    can play that fast, especially Dad!?!?
    \Gary
    I don't think you should leave that tuner on when playing.  It adds all
    kind of junk to the signal.
2669.18KDX200::COOPERHello me, it's me again!Wed Jan 27 1993 00:334
    FWIW - Anything between your axe and speakers add junk to the 
    signal.  The more ya process it, the junkier it gets...
    
    bummer!
2669.19[]wave into effects returnBSS::STPALY::J_KUHNTILT: [..../] +10dbWed Jan 27 1993 13:095
>    FWIW - Anything between your axe and speakers add junk to the 
>    signal.  The more ya process it, the junkier it gets...
    
    
    	So you are saying thats somehow bad?    
2669.20GOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Wed Jan 27 1993 14:387
>    FWIW - Anything between your axe and speakers add junk to the 
>    signal.  The more ya process it, the junkier it gets...
    
    Quick!  We have a security breech in progress here!  Someone else is
    Noting from Jeff Cooper's account (and possibly from his body)!
    
    gh
2669.21Come In, Radio Leningrad...TECRUS::ROSTGive me Beefheart or give me deathWed Jan 27 1993 15:004
    I like to plug into my Fuzz Face, crank fuzz intensity to the max and
    tune in shortwave raido stations.
    
    						Lee de Forrest
2669.22KDX200::COOPERHello me, it's me again!Wed Jan 27 1993 16:3510
I didn't say I liked it...  And it was never as clearly obvious as it
was when I got a multi-track with SOLO buttons on the console and
especially the FX returns.

FWIW - This does not imply that I don't use effects...  :-)

Sheeesh, this is twice now that I've entered a note not in keeping
with my personal beleifs !  I actually recommended a MARSHALL last
week!!
:-)
2669.23MIDI Crack PukeDREGS::BLICKSTEINHere all life aboundsWed Jan 27 1993 17:513
    Coop, I was always under the impression that you had so much junk
    in your signal path that you got an automatic 750 ms of delay just
    from the length of the signal path.  ;-)
2669.24Plug into a VAX for digital dexterityTRUCKS::LITTENThu Jan 28 1993 06:5245
My favorite is to use a battery operated electric toothbrush from behind the
bridge for single string "sounds". 

I can't describe what it sounds like!!!!

Also an old fashioned english sixpence or ten pence piece (they have serrated 
edges) used (rotated)sideways .........particularly good with sustain.

Albert Lee uses the best idea with an echo.  I have the article and audio tape
at home, but from memory, he sets up a single delay of something like one and
a half times the note timing (ie in a four-to-the-bar beat he would set it up
to six beats-to-the-bar).  Then play clean single strict-time notes and it
sounds like a second guitar in harmony due to the unusual delay relationship.
He used this effect in "Country Boy".

If you have a "stereo" output Chorus pedal (ie. BOSS), and feed the straight
output into a sustain pedal, and the chorus output through a second sustain
pedal (even put a delay pedal in if you like). Even better if you have two amps
It gives greater "space" to your sound and imitates a twin guitar track playing
in unison. Again, the sustain pedal helps separate the sound by exagerating
the chorus differences. 

Oh yes, and have you tried getting volume swells with a hand held magnet held
over the pickups?  Works best on single coils.

Even wierder Dept:

tune your guitar low to high EADGBE, hold down the top and bottom strings on 
the third fret, A string on the second fret, use a piece of plastic and drag 
it across the strings about four inches away from the bridge.............

Damn.....if it don't sound just like a guitar playing a "G" chord!!!! 

(its a joke and you fell for it....!!)


Dave








2669.25KDX200::COOPERHello me, it's me again!Thu Jan 28 1993 12:413
Umm... not really.  Preamp, QuadraVerb and Power amp, with a Hush 
N/R unit in the FX loop.  I have been known to go a bit wild with 
the QV though.  :-)
2669.26plonk...plonk!FRSBEE::KELLYJGenuine '59 Coupe DeVilleFri Jan 29 1993 14:524
    Here's one I forgot: thread a pick into the e, b, and g strings just in
    front of the playing side of the bridge.  Sounds exactly like a steel
    drum, even the slight out of tune'ness that I associate with pan
    players.
2669.27DREGS::BLICKSTEINHere all life aboundsFri Jan 29 1993 15:347
>Umm... not really.  Preamp, QuadraVerb and Power amp, with a Hush 
>N/R unit in the FX loop.  I have been known to go a bit wild with 
>the QV though.  :-)
    
    What happened to the MIDI rack puke?
    
    Oh, I forgot, that was just their for the lights.  ;-)
2669.28LEDS::BURATIFri Jan 29 1993 15:496
> plonk...plonk! 

    Hey, I remember trying that way back after I heard Bonnie Raitt's first
    LP. What's his name...John Hall? I think did that a tune. At least
    that's what I came up with to imitate it. Trouble is the pick falls out.
    It's a pretty cool sound. Real close to steel drum.
2669.29Steel drumSMURF::BENNETTTwo, To, Too, Won, One, Zero, ...Fri Jan 29 1993 18:193
A rag run thru the strings near the bridge works just about as well.

2669.30KDX200::COOPERHello me, it's me again!Fri Jan 29 1993 19:555
    Yo db - Thats all I've ever had.  MIDI preamp, MIDI multiFX and a 
    power amp.  I get most of my lights from my furman and wireless
    and hush.  :-)
    
    jc
2669.31Guitar World interview with Tom MorelloQRYCHE::STARRI want to see you dance again....Tue Jun 15 1993 20:43252
				RAGING GLORY
     Street smart Harvard grad Tom Morello's high tech tricks and angry
       licks fuel Rage Against The Machine's hip-hopping mad grooves.

By Jeff Kitts
GUITAR WORLD, July 1993

	If any band has a right to try and change the world, it's Rage Against 
The Machine. Unlike the majority of middle-class rock musicians who write 
lyrics about racial injustice, civil unrest, economic decline, media 
manipulation and other controversial subjects for the shock value, each member 
of the politically charged, Los Angeles-based Rage Against The Machine are
personally familiar with the unpleasant side of life. Sometimes *too* 
familiar, as 28-year-old guitarist Tom Morello will attest.
	"My mom is Irish and Italian, and my dad, who left when I was a year
old, is African", says Morello, a graduate of Harvard University. "I grew up
in a small suburb of Illinois, and some people there didn't like the fact that 
I was black and my mom was white. I got into a couple of fights at school, 
and one time I even found a noose hanging in my garage!"
	Such experiences fuel the hostile, almost violent mix of rock and 
hip-hop that Rage Against The Machine's quartet of angry men gear towards an 
entire *nation* of frustrated, rebellious adolescents.
	"There are a lot of angry, intelligent young people out there right 
now, and our music tries to articulate that sense of alienation and 
resentment", says Morello. "People leave our shows with more on their minds
than when they came in - they're even *more* pissed off."
	This summer, Rage Against The Machine will reach over one million 
disgruntled American youths when they join Alice In Chains, Fishbone, 
Arrested Development, Primus, Front 242 and Dinosaur Jr. on the third annual
Lollapalooza festival tour.
	"I appreciate everything that Lollapalooza tries to do", says Morello. 
"Every audience member gets to see seven or eight bands for around $3.00 per
band, plus sample some exotic foods and maybe expose themselves to some 
important political issues. It's great that any kid can be opened up to that 
kind of cultural diversity in one afternoon."
	Guitar World recently took advantage of a rare opportunity to speak
with Morello, an innovative player whose bizarre mix of fleet-fingered 
noodling, driving riffs and space-age sound effects have made Rage's 
self-titled debut one of this year's finest - and the guitarist one of the 
most exciting young rule-breakers in modern rock.
	"I can't express the things I have inside me with just a standard
blues scale", says Morello. "There's 18 years of suburban angst and alienation
inside me that sometimes can only be leaked out with a horrible, feedback-
screeching pterodactyl whoop."

GW: Nothing's exploding overnight, but things seem to be moving along quite
    nicely for the band. Is it all what you expected?
TM: To tell you the truth, we didn't expect things to be happening quite so
    quickly for us, although it is what we had *hoped* for. We want people 
    to discover Rage Against The Machine the same way we discovered Primus,
    Jane's Addiction and other bands that we like - by word of mouth from
    knowledgeable people, not from Kurt Loder.
GW: What about Rage Against The Machine do you think kids find so appealing?
TM: A lot of these kids, as well as ethnic minorities and women, have felt
    completely left-out and abandoned by their country over the past 12 years 
    that Reagan and Bush were in the White House. I just think there's a lot
    of dissatisfaction among young people today, and our music taps into that
    vein.
GW: How do your fans react to the band's political side?
TM: To tell you the truth, when we first got together, I thought that our
    political side would alienate the people who just got off on the music.
    But it's the complete opposite. I think it's because young people today
    are a lot more disenchanted than they were a few years ago, and they need
    music that speaks to them on that level.
GW: Times have changed.
TM: They sure have. In the late-Eighties, music and entertainment were 
    completely escapist in nature - like, get a six-pack on the weekend, and
    if you buy the right kind of acid-wash jeans, you'll get that beautiful
    girlfriend you see in the beer ads. But now, people are waking up to the
    fact that there is a lot of injustice in the world that needs to be 
    confronted. With our music, we hope to jar people out of their complacency 
    - and, to a certain extent, it seems to be working.
GW: Why does the band avoid the traditional methods of promotion - such as
    MTV videos, edited radio singles, even interviews?
TM: When a band starts doing things like that, they open themselves up to
    misconception. We know that what we're doing musically is very real, but 
    if all of a sudden it's blown up on the cover of Circus magazine or all
    over MTV, people might view us as just another flavor-of-the-month. 
    Actually, we have done a couple videos - but you'll never see them on MTV
    because there's a whole lot of cussing goin' on. [laughs] As far as 
    editing any of our tracks to get radio airplay goes, we feel there are two 
    kinds of bands: bands that do that, and bands that don't - and we don't
    want to be in the former category. The profanity in our lyrics is very 
    much an integral and effective part of our music, and editing songs for
    airplay just isn't what this band is about.
GW: But you are planning to do a video for the song "Bombtrack", correct?
TM: Yes. I really hate 99 percent of all MTV videos. MTV reaches about 40 or
    50 million homes, and all you in videos - and on most of television in
    general - is sexism, misogyny, homophobia and all kinds of misinformation.
    All we want to do is be able to open up some people's minds for four
    minutes or so. We plan on doing the most pissed-off video the MTV audience
    has ever seen, and hopefully we'll be able to puncture that fabric of
    misinformation that unfortunately exists.
GW: As the band's popularity increases, do you find that you *do* have to
    compromise a bit more, and maybe do things you don't necessarily feel are
    right for the band?
TM: Actually, as the pressures of greater exposure press in on the band, we've
    become more militant in our desire to maintain underground credibility.
    We're very sensitive to the fact that it's easy for any band with 
    underground roots to, all of a sudden, be uprooted by mainstream success
    and be ground up in the marketing machines. That goes for everything from
    doing videos and interviews right down to selling t-shirts - which are
    printed up by our 17-year-old friend, and we make 30 cents apiece on.
GW: Tell me more about your family history.
TM: Well, my parents met and got married while my mother was in Africa, 
    teaching history on a U.S. military base. It was during Kenya's 
    independence movement, and my father and his side of the family were
    involved in the Mau Mau insurrection against the British. My father was
    part of Kenya's first United Nations delegation. We haven't heard from
    him since he left us. I'm looking forward to touring Africa so I can 
    knock on his door and go "Hey dad - what's up? Here's a tape." [laughs]
GW: What was it like being raised by your Italian/Irish mother?
TM: Well, it was pretty interesting, to say the least. She grew up in a tiny
    town in central Illinois, where we moved to after my parents got divorced
    in New York. In 1965 or '66, when she was looking for a teaching job, this
    little town called Libertyville was the only town in the Chicago suburban
    area that would allow us, as an interracial mother and child, to live in
    the same community where she taught. Most schools said that, because of 
    me, she would have to live somewhere else is she wanted to teach there.
    So eventually she got a teaching job in Libertyville, and I spent 18
    years there. In fact, I was the first person of color to live in the
    community of Libertyville *ever*.
	When we started looking for apartments, the real estate agent had to 
    go door to door and ask the local residents if they would mind a one year
    old black child and his white mother lived in their community. Most people
    were cool with it; but some weren't. But overall, it was a pretty positive
    place to grow up.
GW: When did you start to play guitar?
TM: When I was 17, which was pretty late compared to the other guys in my high
    school; most of those guys could really shred before I had even learned a
    chord. In fact, I was in a punk rock band while I was in high school, even
    before I could play - the fact that I actually owned a guitar got me in
    the band. [laughs]
	I spent a ridiculous amount of time practicing during those first few
    years, including the time I went to Harvard University. It became an
    obsessive compulsive thing, where every day, without fail, I would 
    practice for two to four hours - even if I had a temperature of 102, an
    exam the next day and was studying until four in the morning, I'd practice
    until six a.m. After I graduated, I practiced for eight hours every day!
GW: What kind of things did you practice for so many hours?
TM: I broke it up into four two-hour slots, with a half-hour for lunch: two
    hours of pure technique, which was something I always felt I needed to 
    catch up on; two hours of theory, which I learned mainly from a brilliant
    book called The Guitar Handbook; two hours of songwriting: riffs, grooves,
    etc.; and two hours of play time, where I would play along with songs on
    the radio and work on creating real trippy noises and broadening that
    aspect of my playing.
GW: Do you practice differently today?
TM: Oh yeah. I used to feel that I improved when I practiced for long hours
    every day, but now I'd rather divert my energies to experimenting with the
    instrument. Instead of practicing scales for six hours, I'd rather just
    *look* at the guitar for ten minutes, pick it up and then try to, for 
    instance, play the same sound that a rhinoceros would make. [laughs] A lot
    of my practicing also happens while we're on stage, during the solo spots 
    - I'll often attempt to play something that I've never played before.
GW: Did you ever take lessons?
TM: I took two guitar, both of which were real disasters. When I was about
    13-years-old, I got my first guitar, a Kay, which I bought for $50 because
    it had the most knobs on it. [laughs] So I went down to the local guitar
    shop, plunked down my five bucks and told the guy I wanted to learn "Black
    Dog" and "Detroit Rock City". They guy told me, "No. Today we are going
    to learn how to tune the guitar." So I went home and practiced tuning. The
    next week I went back and plunked down another five bucks, and asked him
    to teach me those two songs. He said, "No. Today we're going to learn the
    C major scale." I turned around and walked out, and that was the last 
    guitar lesson I ever had. In fact, I didn't pick up the guitar again until
    four years later, when I heard a Sex Pistols album.
GW: Not many people, let alone rock guitarists, attend Harvard. What was
    that experience like?
TM: I majored in Social Studies, which encompasses economics, history, 
    political science, and graduated with honors in 1986. Like most people
    who attend Harvard that aren't super-rich, I went on a scholarship. One of
    the reasons I was able to go to Harvard was because if the school wants 
    you to attend, they make sure you're there, regardless of your financial
    situation.
	As much as Harvard is a great place to learn, it's also a big, evil
    corporation that does things like invest in companies doing business in
    South Africa. During my time there, I was involved in a lot of student
    protests, strikes, sit-ins and other things to change the school's 
    politics.
GW: After graduating from Harvard, you move to Los Angeles. Why?
TM: Well, while I was growing up, my only source of music information was
    reading Circus and Hit Parader, and I knew from those magazines that there
    was a large community of musicians in L.A. I was interested in doing 
    something that was both musically adept and politically conscious, and I
    figured that, since the pool of different musicians in L.A. was so large,
    I'd be more likely to find what I was looking for there than anywhere 
    else. [laughs] I moved to L.A. at the height of the glam scene, and the
    biggest bands in the area were Faster Pussycat, Jetboy, and Guns and 
    Roses.
	My first real experience in L.A. was pretty grim. The first time I
    flipped through one of the local music papers, I found an ad for a metal-
    type band looking for a guitarist. So I called the bass player and we
    agreed to exchange tapes. Ten minutes later, his manager called me and
    almost immediately asked how long my hair was. I told him it wasn't very
    long, and he then asked if it was at least shoulder length. When I said
    no, he asked if I was blond! He told me that the band was getting all
    this interest from record companies and publishing companies, and that
    they were looking for a very specific-looking type of player. And I was
    like, "But you've never heard me play - I could be the perfect guitarist
    for this band, and you don't even want to exchange tapes because my hair
    doesn't meet your requirements?" The he suggested that maybe I could get
    a wig, and then finally said that it probably wouldn't work out. [laughs]
GW: Zack [de la Rocha, vocals] is an incredibly intense performer. What were
    your first impressions of him?
TM: The first day that Zack came to jam with us, he was just this little guy
    with a cheap PA who came in and started rapping - and at that point I had
    no intention of being in a rock band with a singer who rapped. [laughs]
    But once I read his lyrics and heard him sing, I was so blown away that I
    knew Zack was the right guy.
GW: At what point did you start using the guitar in such an unorthodox manner 
    - creating unique sounds without fancy effects?
TM: It probably goes back to when I was in that first punk band in high 
    school. Like I said before, I barely knew how to play then, and my goal
    was to never learn anything from anybody. [laughs] And that sounds great
    in theory, but it made band rehearsals a real mess. So I started using
    all this horrible feedback and taking the neck of the guitar and bending
    it over my head and making all these weird noises. But that was punk, so 
    it was ok. I guess that was the seed of the whole thing, but then I got
    more into practicing Rhandy Rhodes and Eddie Van Halen scales and Jimmy
    Page licks. Only in last couple of years have I begun to find my own
    voice on the instrument, which is very different from the more traditional
    types of guitar playing.
GW: Two of your more intriguing solos appear on "Killing In The Name Of" and
    "Know Your Enemy". Tell me about them.
TM: For "Killing", I play a real simple Barnum & Bailey Circus kind of thing.
    I use a harmonizer pedal set a couple octaves up, and just play real fast,
    trill-picking blues scales that sounds like the attack of a hornets nest
    when you manipulate the pedal in a certain way. For "Enemy", I use a 
    harmonizer set to a fifth. Much of it's just random noodling, and the
    real staccato part at the end is just me flicking the toggle switch on 
    and off. I have one volume knob set to 10 and the other set to zero, and
    I just hammer the note with my left hand prior to the downbeat, so when I
    flick the switch on, the note is already going.
GW: What kind of gear do you use?
TM: Not too much, really. Just a 50-watt Marshall half-stack, a wah pedal for
    one song, a flanger pedal, an analog delay, a DOD EQ that I just for a 
    boost on the solos, and a harmonizer. I don't use any rack gear. My main
    guitar is an Eighties stock Telecaster with single-coil pickups. My other
    guitar is just a mutt I've assembled from parts of other guitars over the
    years; I've never really been happy with it.
GW: You seem to rely quite heavily on the Digitech Whammy Pedal.
TM: I use it because I have a great fear of expensive rack gear. [laughs] The
    harmonizer pedal works really well in conjunction with the non-traditional
    ways that I manipulate the guitar - like using hip-hop samples and
    industrial noises. The harmonizer has almost a cheezy sound - not like a
    big, expensive piece of gear. To me, it has a texture that you can't get
    with one of those Eventide harmonizers. Take Steve Vai: he uses some
    interesting harmonizer effects, but I think his sound is ultimately too
    processed and stale - my pedal sounds more like an Eventide harmonizer 
    for garage bands.
2669.328^)GOES11::G_HOUSESon of SpamTue Jun 15 1993 21:053
>my pedal sounds more like an Eventide harmonizer for garage bands.     
    
    I gotta have one!
2669.33PRMS00::PBAERPlease Baer with me . . .Mon Jun 13 1994 18:563
You can make a nice purring noise with a Floyd Rose tremelo. Just
hit a chord, then give the wiggle stick a flick with the back of
your hand and let it vibrate freely. I saw Steve Vai do this trick.