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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2660.0. "Ramble alert" by GIDDAY::KNIGHTP (I'll get you with my disentigrating pistol) Tue Jan 12 1993 18:25

    I have a probl/question and couldn't really find a topic to put it
    into.
    
    	I am approaching a very big hole in guitar playing, I am out
    playing live approx 1-2 nights a week in a duo and we cover everything.
    Now what I have always done when covering solos is to sit down and rope
    learn the basic skeleton of the solo (intro and exit) and all the bits
    I could play and then impro the rest, this used to work fine as most
    of the songs were fairly straight forward and I was really at the low
    end of the musician/gig scale of things.
    	I recently started working with a singer who is really well known
    this city and has been playing in GB bands for years ,all of a sudden
    work starts piling in and we are playing better gigs, I start to feel 
    that my ability is not really up to it so I got to practice and do thin
    gs a bit better/more professionally. (given that I also have to program
    the sequences, learn harmonies and lead vocals, chase agencies.,venues
    etc).
    
    	Now for the first time ever I slowed down a  solo to learn it
    (Early Warning by the Baby Animals) now also I had programmed this
    sequence , now this might sound weird to some people who really know 
    their theory but I do not know what key this song is in, I have sat 
    down and sequenced the bass, a backing guitar part and strings learn
    the rythmn guitar part and all that I don't know what key it is in.
    	When I do my solo my brain works like this 1st part of solo sort
    of Bbm pentatonic, then muted G#major scale back to Bbm pentatonic
    then up to the Bb above the 12th fret on the G string then 2 fret 
    bend on the 1st string up to Bb to finish.
    
    	Now, what is my question,  I need some advice on practice theories
    of different scales,modes riffs etc but for me to understand use them
    they would have to be applied over a known song/progression
    eg ; Over the chords G Em C D I use this pattern on this part of the
    neck etc
    
    	I am also interested in the dreaded mixolydian mode but would need
    a box pattern or something like that to apply it to hear it
    oh yeah does anyone know what key Early Warning is in.?
    P.K.
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2660.1ramble Rx suggestionGJO001::REITERTue Jan 12 1993 23:038
    go get a copy of The Advancing Guitarist by Mick Goodrick
    
    i would post the ISBN, but i just lent my copy to my guitar coach, who
    i just spoke to last night, and he is freaking out over the book, and
    he is a berklee graduate, plays lead in a working blues band, and is no
    lightweight mentally or musically
    
    \Gary
2660.2moramblesGJO001::REITERTue Jan 12 1993 23:078
    the reason i bring up mick goodrick is because he addresses your exact
    situation, not only from the technical standpoint, but also from the
    point of view of the person who has advanced technically and yearns to
    do nothing but play out, then starts to gig heavily, and now wishes
    they had time to work on things like they used to (kind of a yin and
    yang - wow!), and how to use those phases in your musical life to
    complement each other
    \Gary
2660.3Good bookGOES11::G_HOUSEBig cheese, MAKE me!Wed Jan 13 1993 12:498
    Steve Jensen (fellow DECcie, occasional noter, outstanding guitarist)
    also highly recommended this book to me.  He said it was one of the
    best he'd seen in years.  
    
    I tried to order it a few months back and it was backordered and I
    didn't end up getting it.  
    
    Greg
2660.4and more rambling..STRAT::JENSENTone == touchWed Jan 13 1993 13:566
    And I'd recommend it again - I've had my copy for quite some time now,
    and find it to be the most useful teaching/learning aid that I have. 
    There's a Mick Goodrick note in here somewhere and I'm pretty sure I
    gave the ISBN number for the book in that note. 

    steve
2660.5Ramblin guyGIDDAY::KNIGHTPI'll get you with my disentigrating pistolWed Jan 13 1993 17:304
    thanks for the info
    	I will have to see if I can get it over here.
    P.K.