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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2632.0. "Derek Trucks" by MSDOA::BLAIR (Shut up and eat your notemeal) Wed Dec 02 1992 10:58

    
    	Last Friday I got out to see Derek Trucks at Al's Pump House 
    	and this kid can play the slide.  13 years old and it pissed
    	me off!  ;^)  I believe he is the nephew of Butch Trucks.
    	Played a sweet cherry colored SG.  Just this little guy up
    	on stage and he's cool as a cucumber.  Should have seen the
    	setting.  They had tables up front reserved for kiddies with
    	free koolaid.  Took me a week to get rid of that koolaid 
    	mustache!
    
    	-pat
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2632.1Was The Kool-Aid Electric?TECRUS::TECRUS::ROSTLimo driver for Ringo StarrWed Dec 02 1992 11:4318
    We could use more stuff like that...seriously!  If kids had a chance to
    get exposed to a lot of music while growing up, they wouldn't be so
    easy to sucker into the MTV sewer.
    
    My two girls (5 and 7) have been bugging me to tape some of my CDs so
    they can listen on their Fisher Price tape players.  Their demands so
    far:
    
    	Boozoo Chavis
    
    	Lucinda Williams
    
    	NRBQ
    
    My 5 year old is also after me to buy her a bass to jam on.  The seven
    year old only wants a horse  8^)  8^)
    
    							Brian
2632.2MSDOA::BLAIRI'm goin' to DisneylandWed Dec 02 1992 12:042
    
    Lucinda Williams is great - your kids have great taste, BTW!
2632.3DECWIN::KMCDONOUGHSet Kids/NosickWed Dec 02 1992 12:1813
    
    About that horse your daughter wants.....it's a curse and much more
    expensive than music!!!
    
    
    I know, I married a horse lover.  The horse lives in what used to be my
    garage.  
    
    Music is much cheaper.  And, even with smoky bars, your clothes still smell
    better than with the horse.  8^)
    
    Kevin
    
2632.4I suppose it's better than being in gangs ;-)DREGS::BLICKSTEINdbWed Dec 02 1992 13:5613
    There's also a kid who shows up for EVERY SINGLE blues jam at Johnny
    D's in Cambridge who plays blues pretty well.  I think he's about 13
    now.
    
    When he first started showing up, I heard that you wanted to avoid
    being on stage with him at all costs because he was awful and couldn't
    play.   Last time I was there you wanted to avoid being on stage with
    him at all costs because he was an incredible ham, and "took over"
    doing most of the solo's and leading the band.
    
    I played with him once and he's pretty good now, but it's obvious that
    this kid lives and breaths to be Stevie Ray Vaughan.  It's obvious from
    his playing, his clothes, his mannerism, everything.
2632.5MSDOA::BLAIRI'm goin' to DisneylandWed Dec 02 1992 14:213
    
    	I believe Derek Trucks has performed with Dylan - probably when
    	he was younger ;^).  Too cool - I hate him!
2632.6DECWIN::KMCDONOUGHSet Kids/NosickWed Dec 02 1992 14:237
    
    
    See the music section in today's Globe. His name is Mike Welch and he's
    13.
    
    Kevin
    
2632.7young sh*tsGIDDAY::KNIGHTPBizzare gardening accidentWed Dec 02 1992 22:034
    We got a kid over here Nathan something or other and he is pretty good
    too.  I think he is about 12 or so, he played at the Guitar Player 25
    th anniversary concert.
    P.K.
2632.8Monster Mike, the tiny blues legendCARTUN::BDONOVANThu Dec 03 1992 11:2035
    
    That little kid, Mike Welch, was featured on the Channel 5 11 o'clock
    news last night.  Even Nat and Chet were [visibly] impressed.
    
    As DB mentioned, his style is certainly SRV-informed.  The interviewer
    asked him what a white, thirteen-year old boy knows about the blues
    and the very likeable youngster laughed, and said that Muddy Waters
    once said all you to do to feel the blues is be alive.
    
    Said Mike: "I don't think you have to picked cotton or have been drunk
    on whiskey to play blues.  After I've had a hard week, I like to
    pour all of my emotions out on the weekend."
    
    "Hard week doing what?" asked the interviewer, "taking a test?"
    
    It was funny, sort of, and Mike kind of winced and laughed, but I
    thought the interviewer really came across as a heavy.  It looks
    pretty bad when an adult is trying to trick up a kid, and looks worse
    when the kid wins by staying calm and just being himself.
    
    Mike used to be known as "Little Mikey" and says he now prefers
    "Monster Mike."  His parents attend all of his gigs and are very
    supportive, however they apparently aren't going to let him sign
    a record deal (supposedly already offered) until "he gets out of
    college."
    
    I thought Mike was a very decent player, interesting to listen to,
    and in good command of the instrument.  The fact that he is only
    13 is pretty amazing.  They showed some clips of him jamming with
    Dan Akroyd and the band at the opening of Ackroyd's new blues club
    in Cambridge, and Akroyed was smiling widely at the kids ability.
    
    Here's hoping he doesn't get caught in the Jeff Healey trap.
    
    Brian
2632.9WAGON::SAKELARISThu Dec 03 1992 13:0819
    Yo Brian(meat),
    
    What's the "Jeff Healy trap"?
    
    I like and absolutly agree with the kid that you don't have to have 
    picked cotton or have been drunk on whiskey to play the blues. All you
    need is to like it enough to practice and emulate the style. 
    
    I don't buy this "emotion" stuff about music either. Many times I've
    grabbed a note and turned slightly toward the amp to get it to sustain,
    but its never for any other reason than to get the note to sustain.
    It's never been like my soul is cying or I have any desire to express
    my inner feelings or any of that sensitivity crap. 
    
    Its like these damn "artists" who smear a canvas with paints. In my
    eyes its smeared paint, but gauranteed someone else will call it great 
    art. I call it bullsh!t.
    
    "sakman"  
2632.10Well, errrr, it's not _all_ crap. SOLVIT::SNORAT::OLOUGHLINThe fun begins at 80!Thu Dec 03 1992 14:2150
    
    
       It's not smeared canvas, it is art.  The smeared painting, (more 
    often than not) is a representation closer to an emotion, than a 
    direct visual thang.   (Of course there is junk out there, but there is
    plenty of junk music also.)  
    
       Once I was checking out a Picaso.  It looked something like an
    upside down question mark, without the period.  It was a single line
    that, in an abstract form,  was based on the top of a womans shoulders
    down to her ass.  The simple graceful curve of the line pretty much 
    emmulated the simple beauty of a naked woman.  Some guy walks up and
    says that he could do that.  Sure.  Picaso, in a sigle stroke, said what 
    a great writer would have taken a book to say, if not a lifetime.  
    
       Another time I was checking out a Motherwell, (I think, pretty sure.)
    From ten - twenty feet, it looked like a black square on a white
    canvas.  That was it. (This thing cost three hundred thousand dollars.)
    This pissed me off and I thought to myself that I could do that.  Art
    is only paint thrown at a canvas by someone who happens to be in Vogue
    at the time.  Junk.
    
       I hung out there for another five minutes and then something hit.
    I got closer to the painting and then I realized that the "color" was 
    black, but the painting was really in the "texture" of the strokes. 
    A while later I realized that it was, (in my eyes) a masterpiece.  It
    kinda makes me wonder if he, the painter, would hang out and laugh to
    himself when people, like me, walk up and say it's junk, I can do
    that, and walk away in a huff and know that they did not have a clue.
     
       So there's good and bad.  If you've only seen junk, that's all you
    know, (so far) and your opinion is set.  Don't shut it out.  There may 
    be something out there that communicates well with you.  And seeing it
    will be worth the while.   If you ever get the chance, check out
    deKooning and Fairfield Porter.   deKonning<sp> is of the smeared
    painting type.  **Very powerful stuff - really.  
    
              **This coming from a Budweiser, 4 wheel drive, 
                turn up the volume, bang head against the wall,
                snowmobile at high speeds, type person.   
            
       
       Rick.
    
    
       PS: Sorry, didn't mean to lecture.  Was not meant to piss
           anyone off - and Sac, don't jump on me, it wasn't directed
           towards you.  You just got me thinking about it - 's all.
    
             
2632.11TECRUS::TECRUS::ROSTI fret less these daysThu Dec 03 1992 14:4510
    Aw, c'mon, if music didn't display some emotion who'd listen to it? 
    The emotion might be no more than "let's get drunk and be someone
    else awhile", but it's emotion all the same.  
    
    Heard Whitney Houston's latest?  When she is singing "I Will Always
    Love You", I feel nothing at all, but when Dolly Parton sings it, I
    want to cry.  Go figger.
    
    
    						Miles Mello
2632.12 SOLVIT::SNORAT::OLOUGHLINThe fun begins at 80!Thu Dec 03 1992 14:5819
    
    
    
       Yo, you missed it.  
    
       The point was directed towards what the smears represent.  
    Dat's all.
    
    
       Walden P. Klunckington
    
    
    
       PS:  Where in the hell do you come up
            with all these names?   They're
            great.          
                      8^) 
    
                   
2632.13TECRUS::ROSTI fret less these daysThu Dec 03 1992 15:0519
    Re: .11, .12
    
    Missed what?  I was responding to .10...this is getting confusing.
    Am I in the right bash note?  8^)  8^)
    
    Names?  I got a million of 'em....the last one might ring a bell if you
    ever saw the movie "The Eiger Sanction".
    
    Back to the subject (I think), funny how a kid who supposedly isn't
    interested in a record deal until after college suddenly shows up not
    only in the Globe but also on the tube...GP should be next.  I should
    find out who does his publicity...
    
    Maybe Al Kooper can produce "Super Session II" with Trucks, Mike and that
    shredder from the UK who's in the Steve Vai videos.  Better than the
    New Kids, anyway  8^)  8^)
    
    							Brian
    						(my real name, I think)
2632.14Just FYINWACES::HICKERNELLMy place in history or yours?Thu Dec 03 1992 15:326
    re: .12
    
    Rick, Brian's our history-and-trivia expert.  He knows more names than
    Ma Bell.
    
    Dave
2632.15DREGS::BLICKSTEINdbThu Dec 03 1992 18:164
    >  We got a kid over here Nathan something or other and he is pretty
    > good too. 
    
    I think it's Nathan Calveri or Calaveri.  Not sure which.
2632.16politics?ROYALT::BUSENBARKFri Dec 04 1992 09:5211
    I believe the "Jeff Healey way" is in reference to  the route Healey's
    music took after the first release. He seemed to have all the right
    words in interviews about playing blues,jazz etc.... his infinate
    record collection as an influence and then came out with an ELO
    sounding album......"Hell to Pay" seemed to take a very different
    route musically and I'm sure even the next release is even more
    along those lines. 
    
    
    							Rick
    
2632.17Failed expectations, I guessCARTUN::BDONOVANFri Dec 04 1992 11:2223
    
    Yes...what Rick said.  The "Jeff Healy way" is the route
    of commercialism.
    
    Not to totally slag him...the pressures must be enormous at
    that level to please the largest audience possible, and
    it probably feels pretty good selling lots of product and
    playing big houses.
    
    However, the sound and the lyric content of the new single
    sound like ZZ Top without the humor to me.  Too bad.  I thought
    his reading of the George Harrison song was more inspired.
    
    Still, what is a blues guy going doing mining pop songs anyway?
    
    Is Healy blues and pop and rock and ballads?  Because if he is
    all of the above, then he's none of the above.  If you know
    what I mean.
    
    I love the soundtrack from Roadhouse, btw, as decent a Healy album
    as you can find.
    
    Brian