Conference napalm::guitar

    I've still never heard this guy.  I have his book, "The advancing
    guitarist", which is probably the most helpful method book I've ever
    used.

    After studying from his book, I'm not surprised that he doesn't use a
    pick while comping/chording.  He makes some very strong arguments for
    using a finger plucked technique to accurately voice certain chords. 
    I'm a little surprised that he doesn't use one for single note solos,
    however.... Does he do single note solos?

    Check out his column in guitar player (if they still carry it -- I quit
    subscribing again, so I don't know).   He discusses lots of interesting
    approaches to chords/voicings.

    I'd sure like to hear him live, but Colorado Springs doesn't support
    that kind of music so chances of that are zero.

    steve

    Re: .1
    
    If you want to hear him, check out some of Gary Burton's ECM albums
    from the mid-seventies.  For a while the Burton band had both Goodrick
    and his student, Pat Metheny, side by side (Mick on 6, Pat on 12). 
    More recently, Mick can be heard playing with Charlie Haden's
    Liberation Music Orchestra on Blue Note.
    
    							Brian

    Thanks Brian,

    Plus, I believe he has a solo album, but I don't recall the name/order
    number.

    steve

    Could someone post the details for the book "the advancing Guitarist"
    by Mick Goodwin . As mentioned in another note this sounds like
    something Very usefull
    P.K.

P.K. -- Sorry, I could have sworn I posted the ISBN, etc. in this note.  I will
look tonight and post it here in the morning.

steve

    Ok, Here's the name, etc., of Mick Goodrick's book:

	The Advancing Guitarist
	(applying guitar concepts & techniques)

    	Hal Leonard Books
	8112 W. Bluemound Rd., P.O Box 13819
	Milwaukee, WI 53213
	ISBN 0-88188-589-4

    Good luck!
    steve

    Only "advancing" I've been doing is measured in "years".

    RE everyone
    	Thanks, I got it and boy there is some really heavy but good stuff
    In there. Going to start with hopefully 1/2 hour a day solid practice 
    on it and see what happens.
    P.K.

    read the back section (the words, conceptual, philosophical) first,
    then read the first part (the technical notations, lessons, etc.)
    
    he wrote the book backwards ;7)
    \Gary

    I thought he encouraged you to skip around in the book and work on the
    pieces you needed rather then taking going through it in a linear
    fashion?
    
    Greg

    Yes he does, but I think the point being made was that .-2 found the
    information in the back of the book immediately valuable while the
    stuff in the front of the book requires work before its value becomes
    apparent.   Actually, I think he recommends that you use the book the
    way it seems most natural to you.

    This is a very unique book.  Some people are really going to hate it.
    Others, like myself, will find it invaluable.  You must be self reliant
    to use it.

    Personally, I use it like this;

    	1. Periodically read from cover to cover. (I don't work on
	   anything, just read the book).

	2. Work through the first half.  I try to do most of the homework
	   in most areas.  In areas that I'm real interested in, I'll do
	   all the homework.

	3. Skip around to sections as my interest in their contents
	   dictates.

	4. Periodically don't look at it for weeks and weeks then go back
           and find I'm interested in something that I wasn't interested in
           before...

    Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), I think #2 will take forever.

    steve

For those interested, Mick is playing in the Boston area this week. He's
at Ryle's this coming Monday night, with guitarist Randy Roos, bassist
Dave Clark, and drummer Marty Richards.

(Ryles is located in Inman's Square in Cambridge.)

alan

How much is "The Advancing Guitarist" book..?
Any further descriptions of the content also welcome.

*Dave

To answer my own question.
There's some good stuff in there...
*Dave

    
    Found a couple newer recordings of Mick that I like. 
    
    1. Sunscreams  - Mick on guitar, Jerry Bergonzi on sax, 
    Bruce Gertz bass, Gary Chafee drums.  Excellent ontemporary
    sounding stuff including standards and originals.  Probably
    my favorite of the Goodrick recordings I've heard. 
    
    2. Cities - Mick on Guitar and an Italian sax player named
    Fasoli (sp) heads the group, which also includes bass
    on some of the tracks.  All original free form (to 
    my ears) style stuff with lots of guitar/sax duets.  
    
    These are both on the Italian RAM label. 
    
    Dave
    

    Sunscreams sounds good.  We saw this band (not sure if the same
    drummer) at the Willow a year or so ago; excellent.  I would grab
    almost anything with Bruce Gertz; he definitely plays an instrument
    that it's possible to swing on :-)
    

I got to hear Mick last night with Laszlo Gardony (Goodrick one night, Martino
the next - I'm gonna o.d.).  He was great...I love the fluidity with which
he plays on recordings, and live it's even more in evidence.  He's about the
most relaxed player I've ever seen; all this wonderful music coming out, and
he looks like he could doze off at any moment.  Hmmm...cause and effect?  At 
the end of his solo on a particular ballad, I suddenly realized that I hadn't 
been breathing for a while.  

During the break, I asked him if he still teaches privately...

"No, I teach a few students at New England Conservatory, but most of my teaching
is done in 2-3 day clinics these days.  It pays better, and it's more intensive.
I don't have to listen to the problems every week.  I've taught for about 35
years, and it takes its toll after a while...(takes a drag on his cigarette,
then, abruptly)...do you teach?"
 
"Me?  No, I used to, but I don't really like to."

"(Shrugs while taking another drag, then smiles wryly) Well, there you go!"

Having said all that, he cheerfully listened to my questions and made helpful
and encouraging suggestions.

Unfortunately, he said he doesn't really have a band of his own at this point
("I'm just a sideman") and doesn't have any gigs around Boston in the near
future.

Paul