Conference napalm::guitar

    I'll agree, he's may not be great but he consistantly gets the job done
    as do the rest of the band. I saw them live back during the sports tour
    and came away feeling like I might have just seen the best "road-house"
    band in the country.

    --rjb

    Yeah, he's a consistant player.
    
    Another player like that for me is the original lead guitarist from the
    Pretenders (now that I start the note, I can't remember his name). 
    Cool player!
    
    gh

re: .1  yep, good way to put it ...Hewey Lewis and the News is the best roadhouse
band going.

Hers another honorable mention candidate - Neil Geraldo. Pat Benetar's husband
and guitman. Everything I ever heard him do I end up thinking to myself
"Damn". 

Like Chris Hayes, he's no Yngwie, Vai, Satch and all the other impossible 
players. These guys just do their job really well.

"sakman"

    RE: -1
    
    Same guy I thought of when I first saw the base note!  What ever
    happened to them?

They're still at it. Hewey Lewis came around to Nashua just this past summer.
Good concert - Chris smoked as usual. Pat and hubby Neil put out a blues
album last spring I think it was. I've only heard a few cuts and I liked what
I heard. I've been meaning to get the CD.

"sakman" 

    The late James Honeyman Scott was the Pretenders first guitarist.
    I'd certainly put him above the level of journeyman; those
    early Pretenders cuts are a feast of great guitar parts and
    tones.  The fact that the Pretenders are known more as a "pop"
    band than as a "guitar" band probably explains his being somewhat
    underappreciated.  He's one of my favorites all around.
    
    In a similar vein, Elliot Easton.  I actually think he's bit more
    limited than JHS, but again a great guitarist buried in a pop band.
    
    Great topic; I like talking and learning about some of the lesser
    known players.

Yeah Elliot Eastman. He was good. One thing in particular I thought was 
outstanding, but I can't quite recall it right now. It was reminds me
of something George Harrison might do if he were about 10 times more capable.
OooHhh, it just cme to me ... Dance All Night. Good solo. Nothing to submit
into the hall of fame, but one of those *just right* solo's.

Question, I didn't know that the dude from the pretenders is now literally with 
the Dead. How'd he get there?

"sakman"

    Howzabout Jimmy McCullough.  He debuted on the Thunderclap Newman LP
    then led a very checkered career before ODing.  He went through a
    number of short-lived band stints (mostly unrecorded) and then ended up
    playing with Wings for three albums (from "Venus & Mars" through the
    live set).
    
    I still love his solos on the T. Newman album, they are like little
    jewels.  Nothing fancy or flashy, just well constructed and played.
    
    Then there's Phil Manzanera from Roxy Music, Ollie McIntire with AWB.
    For that matter, Steve Winwood, who is known mostly as a keyboard man.
    Check out his dual leads with Clapton on "Had to Cry Today" or his work
    with Spencer Davis Group like "Keep on Running" and "Stevie's Blues".
    
    						Brian

    Re: .7
    
    James Honeyman-Scott was a coke OD.  The bassist also ODed around the
    same time.
    
    						Brian

Brian,
Your mention of Ollie McIntyre reminds me of another guy, not a 6 stringer 
but a bassist. He was the bassist for Tower of Power. Who was this guy?
He played like 16th and 32 notes througout. His right hand was busier than 
his left doing it. He's another one of these guys that won't make the front
page of the rags and play his axe with his pecker or something. But you just 
gotta say damn when hearing 'em

"sakman"

    Yeah, James Honeyman-Scott was the one I was thinking of, outstanding
    player!  
    
    I'll also echo the calls on Phil Manzanara (Roxy Music is a killer
    band) and Elliot Easton, both are extremely underrated!
    
    I always liked Steve Hunter too.  He played on Lou Reed's live "Rock &
    Roll Animal" album and just BURNED!
    
    Everone always says talks about him when mentioning underrated guitar
    players, but I love Andy Summers (from the Police) too, wonderful
    playing that always fit INTO the song.  He never sounded out of place!
    
    Greg

    re: 10
    
    I'll chime in here.  Francis Rocco Prestia was the Tower of Power
    bassist with the burning chops.  Jeff Berlin mentions this guy all
    the time as a major influence type dude.  He's still playing; there
    was a big feature article on him in a recent Bass Player mag.  The
    first time I heard "What is Hip?", I wanted to quit the bass.  No lie.
    
    /rick

    Some of the other guys I've never heard since I never listened to Roxy
    Music or Lou Reed, but I will agree with Elliot Easton and Andy
    Summers.
    
    I always loved that clean, heavy chorus/delay sound that Summers had
    too.
    
    Mike

How about Warren Hayes, second fiddle to Dickie Betts (who once a second 
fiddle himself).

    
    
    		Couple of unsungs I get off on are Coco Montoya and 
    	Walter Trout on the John Mayall album, Chicago Line. If ya
    	like da blues dat is!
    
    	DonH
    
    

James Hetfield.

Everyone sez "Oh, he's the singer in Metallica..."
<insert klaxon horn HERE>

That man can PLAY that explorer...  He's a VERY happenin' rhythm guy.

    
    
    
    
    
                      The guitar player from NRBQ...
    
    
    
    
    

    Re: .17
    
    Big Al Anderson, Windsor CT's gift to the world of music.
    
    BTW, Al always claimed that his predecessor in the Q, Steve Ferguson,
    was the greatest guitarist he ever heard.
    
    						Brian

    Two more cats I think were/are great ensemble players: Lindsay
    Buckingham from his days with Fleetwood Mac and Mike Campbell, who
    plays with the Heartbreakers and also appears on a lot of Don Henley's
    stuff.

    
    Guitarist: 
    
    	Huw Gower....formerly w/ the Records and David Johansen. 
    
    Bassists:
    
    	Jimmy Haslip....Yellowjackets.
    
        Roy Estrada....formerly with the Mothers. 
                                                
        Glenn Cornick...formerly of Jethro Tull and Wild Turkey. One of the
    	most tasteful players of the late 60s. 
    
        Dave Pegg, recently of Jethro Tull, but did some monstrous stuff
        with Fairport Convention (like 'Dirty Linen').
    
    	And I'll vouch for Frank Prestia, too....
    
    
    	
    

   Dave Stewart(?) for XTC. He's always there, and solid.

/J

    Dann Huff of Giant.  Chops for days and a voice too!

    A big DITTO on Big Al. But there's nothing second rate about him. He's a
    FREAKING MONSTER PLAYER! He's just not well known. When the Q tour,
    guitar players from everywhere come and check out Al. He's very well
    known around Nashville now.

    --rjb
    
    BTW, he also wrote sang and recorded with his first band (The Wild Weeds
    of Windsor CT. circa 1965) one of the best singles to ever hit the
    radio: No Good To Cry. The Q still do this tune.

    re: .0 et al
    
    Huey Lewis and the News is definitely one of the tightest sounding
    bands I've ever heard.  Even though we don't do any of their tunes,
    I regard them as "the" role model for my GB/Club band.
    
    They have a live concert video out with the Tower of Power Horn section
    that I never ever get bored of watching.
    
    I also agree about Neil Geraldo.  He does it right.
    
    My all-time favorite Geraldo tune is the one he did with Kenny Logins
    that starts out with the G major and D major harmonics.  He smokes
    all the way thru that tune.  Sorta like a beefed up Peter Townshend.
    
    	db

    
    I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but when I saw Huey Lewis
    at Greatwoods this summer I wasn't that impressed.  Of course, his
    guitarist IS a very solid player, I have no quarrel with that.  
    
    I was disappointed that there was no horn section, it could've been
    just a *teensy* bit louder, and Huey gave off the impression that 
    he'd rather be doing his tax returns or sorting laundry.  The long-
    time Huey fan that I went with (you know who I mean, Buck ;-)) was
    disappointed as well.
    
    Huey's music isn't my favorite, but he was a guy I expected to have
    MUCH more respect for AFTER seeing his show.  Instead, it was quite
    the opposite.  Great band though.
    
    guy

    
    Another guitarist that I view as being a really solid player is 
    Alex Lifeson of Rush.  He definately has his opportunities to
    really be way out in front of things, but for a good part of the
    time he's putting in some very complementary rhythm/supporting
    lines.
    
    And it's not easy coming up with something complementary when there
    are a lot of keyboard tracks.  Check out "Middletown Dreams" from
    _Power Windows_ for a taste of his mastery of this ability.
    
    guy

    One reason why Huey is so tight on record is that they synch
    everything (drums, bass, keys).  Not that the band isn't tight 
    on its own, but...
    
    Peter

>    One reason why Huey is so tight on record is that they synch
>    everything (drums, bass, keys).  Not that the band isn't tight
    
    They could have recorded and released a live  album from the show that I
    saw. They were amazingly tight, so although they might sync up to a
    click track in the studio, I don't think they need to.

    Two things though: (a) it was a smallish venue (10,000 seats) and (b) it
    was the openning show for the second half of the SPORTS tour. They had
    just had 2 months off, and Power of Love was hitting the charts big. You
    could tell that they were really primed up to play. Also, they had a ton 
    of equipment. The house sound was big enough to do a romm 6x as big. I
    figure that they needed to shake the bugs out of the gear and that's
    probably why they picked a smallish place to do it. It was a great show.

Alex Lifeson IS amazing !!  I can't beleive I didn't mention that !!
I think the guy is SO underated.  He is ALL over that neck playing
chords and such.  He's a god fer sure.

jc

    
    	Prince
    	Terry Kath	early Chicago guitarist - wow!!
    	Walter Becker	how come the hired guns always get mentioned?
    	Beat It guy	;^)
    	Nils Lofgrin
    	Springsteen	his solo in Kitty's Back and others are superb
    	???		Elton John's guitarist during Goodbye Yellow...
    	Eric Stewart	10cc - always melodic and creative
    	???		the early guy in Heart - Magic Man period
    	Robbie Nevil	GP says his new CD has great guitar
    	Rick Derringer	Hootchie Koo !!
    
    

     Kenny Gradney w/Little Feat is a monster bassist!! Check out
    Waiting for Colombus....excellent live album and he kills on it.

    Is he the guy whos currently playing bass with the Feat? If so,
    I AGREE 100%,.. he was way cooool at the two shows I caught
    recently while on that other coast...
    
    					/Bill
    

>    	???		Elton John's guitarist during Goodbye Yellow...
    
    Davey Johnstone.  Very complementary to EJ's piano work.
    

    
    I have to second Nils Lofgren.  He also seems like a virtual 
    unknown.....he *did* do some annoying vocals when he was with
    Grin, but I still liked 'em.  And he's definately got some 
    really catchy tunes on his solo albums.  I like "Empty Heart".
    
    Check out his solo on the Grin tune "See What Love Can Do".  I
    think he used a slide in combo with some sort of octave pedal.
    Wild sound!
    
    guy

    re: Elton John's guitarist
    
    Is that the person that did the "Love Lies Bleeding" solo?  If so, I
    second it, that one's inspired.
    
    Greg

I saw Little Feat in Lowell (MASS) about 2 years ago. At that time I was 
concentrating on playing bass, so I watched closely everything the dude did.
Talk about kills. Jesus I can't think of a tighter band, especially given the
comlex rhythms, than Little Feat. And another thing, I can't thing of a 
better example of how a bass player and drummer should play together.

On another note (.12), You got it Rick, about that bass work for "What is Hip?"
That was the one I was thinking about.

You know, thinking about all these "honorable mention" dudes, for me makes 
playing even more of a curse. Just goes to show that for every "monster",
there's say 10 absolute greats. Then for every absolute great, there's 100 
tremendous players. then for every tremendous player there's a thousand
astounding players that we never heard of and probably never will. then for 
every  thousand .... etc. Finally, you get to me. Shit, I'm going home to shoot
myself. I'm depressed.

"sakman"

>    Is that the person that did the "Love Lies Bleeding" solo?  If so, I
>    second it, that one's inspired.
    
    Yup that's him!  I kinda prefer the "Funeral for a Friend" intro to
    that song.  Davey was with EJ for many years (i.e., early '70s to about
    1980) and played on all his albums.  Caleb Quaye was the only other
    guitarist he ever had during that timeframe and he only played on 2
    albums (both of them played on "Rock of the Westies" - "Island Girl"
    was the single).
    
    Mike

    Firestarters..... MICK TAYLOR an absolute bluesman.
    
    		      RICHARD THOMPSON boggles the mind.

    Former Lynyrd Skynyrd guitarist Steve Gaines who died in the plane
    crash 1977 is one of my favourite rock guitar players. Check him out on
    the "Street Survivors" album!
    
    sascha

    Amos Garrett...played the solo on 'Midnight at the Oasis'

    I third the nomination of Davey Johnstone.
    
    Those hooks in "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding" are IMHO,
    perfection.  One of my bands (Citadel) is learning that tune and
    although I'm playing keyboards it's one of those tunes where I wish I
    had two extra arms so I could also play those guitar hooks.
    
    Another nominee - Paul Dean of Loverboy ("Turn Me Loose", "Everybody's
    Working for the Weekend", .etc.).  The guy just comes up with GREAT
    hooks.
    
    One more - Warren DiMartini of Ratt.
    
    	db

>    Amos Garrett...played the solo on 'Midnight at the Oasis'

    Yeah, that's a funny little solo. Very original. Fit the tune absolutely
    perfectly.

    How 'bout John Hall (am I remembering correctly?) from Orleans. He did
    some stuff on an early Bonnie Raitt album that was pretty cool.

    Then there's all those guys that played tracks on Steely Dan stuff. 

    Here's a few more...
    
    Gary Green - Gentle Giant... Great chops
    
    Steve Hillage - Soft Machine, Gong... Incredible dexterity
    
    Bruce Cockburn... Imaginative as well as skilled
    
    Mick Abrams - Jethro Tull "This Was" Album...Where this guy go?
    
    Bob Weir - Grateful Dead... a fairly innovative rythm guitarist
    
     - I had more, but they slipped my mind. I'll go and try to re-boot
       The old "sloppy disc" again!   
                                        Scotty

    another....
    
    The lead guitarist in The Little River Band.....clean, melodic licks,
    and as I discovered in concert, a KILLER jazz player.  They were
    performing in Denver, CO in 1984.  Their live sound was incredibly
    clear and tight, with "perfect" harmonies...one of the best mixed
    concerts I've heard.  They performed "Reminiscing", and instead of
    the trumpet (I think) solo at the end, their lead guitarist (who's
    name I've never known...Steve XXXXX, I think) came forward and started
    a 10 minute jazz solo that built and built in drive and
    speed...incredible clean, smooth licks and scales...the guy is a
    sleeper!  What ever happened to those guys anyway??
    
    
    Steve

I second Bob Weir !!

The boy is a major rhythm dood.  Odd shaped stuff et.el.

Kenney Gradney (sp) is still with Feat, I agree the combination of Kenney and
Ritchie Hayward on drums makes the Feat one of the tighest rhythm sections
alive...

I saw John Hall (orleans) warm up the Feat a while back, he's ok, the guy who 
was playing bass for him played lead on one song and absolutely smoked John...


Another underrated git player is G.E. Smith of Hall and Oates fame, he smokes
live

dbii

    I thought of another tune that I think the guitar player hit it right
    on, nothing fancy, just right on. Don't know what his name is, but the
    solo is the one for Eddy Money's Two Tickets to Paradise. Anyone elst
    ever thought that to be a catchy solo?
    
    "sakman"

    
    
    	A few guitarists that I reckon are pretty good are
    
    	Craig Chaquico(sp?) from Jefferson Starship
    	The guitarist with Styx
    	Dave Gilmours backing guitarist from the last tour (he is on the
    	video Delicate sound of Thunder...and I can't tell where Dave stops
    	and he takes over)
    
    	Doesn't it really get to you when you hear a song and think 'wow
    	who's the dude playing that screaming guitar' and then you look
    	at the sleeve/cover and it says something like Lead Guitar - Ernie
    	Blodgett...and you think s**t I have miles to go before I get as
    	good as that.....and he's unknown!!!
    
    	J

re: -1

> The guitarist with Styx

That's both Tommy Shaw and James Young.

> Dave Gilmours backing guitarist from the last tour (he is on the
> video Delicate sound of Thunder...and I can't tell where Dave stops
> and he takes over)

And that's Tim Renwick. Tim also played with Eric Clapton's live band for
about 5-6 years (taking over when Albert Lee left). He's a great guitarist!

alan

re: Tim Renwick

Wasn't he with "Quiver" as in "Sutherland Brothers and Quiver".
He was pretty good back then as well.
*DC

    I'll second alot of the guy's in here
    
    The Guy who played for Eddie Money, Elton John, Jefferson Starship
    
    But lets not forget Rick Emmitt from riumph, Not only can this guy
    sing but he's a very tasteful player. 
    
    BK

    Here's another one of those "unknown guitar gods"...
    
    He took over for Alan Holdsworth on a couple of the later Bill Bruford
    albums. He was billed as "The unknown Tony Clarke" (or something like
    that). Anyway, this guy smokes with a capital S !!! Has anybody heard
    of, or know the whereabouts of this monster of dexterity?
    
    Scotty

    Re: Tim Renwick
    
    He also played on some of Elton John's albums from the late '70s to
    early '80s.  Basically whenever Davey Johnstone wasn't available.
    
    Mike

    Jean-Jacques Goldman and Michael Jones (no, I hadn't heard of them 'til
    I came to live in France)
    
    Very big here, not flash, just smooth moody stuff (as well as bright
    rock from time to time)
    
    I would say Goldman is Knopflersque (I find t hard to tell them apart
    sometimes) except that they must be about the same age, and who got
    there first?
    
    On a general note I am delighted to discover how wide the music scene
    is here, and dismayed when I think how parochial it is in England!
    
    chers,martin
    

    Renwick also did time with Al Stewart (that's his solo on "Year of the
    Cat"), David Bowie (first album), Ian Matthews, etc., etc.
    
    Underrated aint the word for this guy, I've sung his praises in here
    before...maybe I can get him to join *my* band, too  8^)  8^)  8^)

    
    re: Styx
    
    Before Tommy Shaw was John Curulewski (sp?) (on Equinox and earlier
    albums).  He wasn't bad either.
    
    guy

    
    re: Tony Clarke from Bruford - yes, fabulous guitarist!!!  Very
    similar to Holdsworth too.  I have a few Bruford albums, talk
    about great stuff all around!!  And Jeff Berlin on bass besides.
    
    With those guys, you have trouble deciding who to listen to.
    
    Loved "Joe Frazier" on, I think, "Gradually going Tornado"
    
    Tom
    

    Does anybody know who the cat is for Eddy Money's 2 Tickets to
    Paradise?
    
    "sakman"

Try the FELINE notes file.

Hit KP7 to add it to your note book.

:)

> Does anybody know who the cat is for Eddy Money's 2 Tickets to Paradise?

Hmmmm..... trying to rack the brain here..... Jimmy Lyons? Does that sound
right???

alan

    I always thought that the guitar player with Bryan Adams was *very*
    tasteful.
    
    Scary

> I always thought that the guitar player with Bryan Adams was *very* tasteful.

Keith Scott, I believe.

Peter Frampton also falls into this category for me - very nice guitarist!

alan

    Whatever happened to Frampton?  In high school, his live album was
    heard everywhere.  Sure brings back memories when I hear "Do You Feel
    Like We Do"
    
    Mike

    I saw Peter Frampton on Letterman earlier this year (I think)...he was
    as clean and tasteful as ever.....love those chops!
    
    Steve

    I think I remember hearing that Frampton was touring with some fairly
    well known vocal artist not very long ago, but I can't remember who it
    was.
    
    gh

    David Bowie maybe?

    there was a rumour circulating that Frampton was touring/gigging with
    Dave Meniketti (ex Y&T) but nothing was ever verified....!
    
    
    
                                             

    
    	Anybody remember Paul Cotton with Poco during the later '70's?
    
    	-pat

    
    Or how about Shorty Medlock with Blackfoot?  Highway Song
    and Train, Train are awesome on the "Strikes" album.
    
    -pat

RE: .68
    
>    	Anybody remember Paul Cotton with Poco during the later '70's?
    
Sure do.  Great player.  His predecessor (Jim Messina) wasn't bad either!

-Hal

    Dave Gilmour, Robbie Krieger, Waddy Watchall, Ariel Bender(Mott the
    Hoople), Rick Nielson...

    Re: .71
    
    I never cared for Ariel Bender's work with Mott.  He was a heckuva lot
    more interesting under his *real* name, Luther Grosvenor.  Played on the
    first couple of Spooky Tooth LPs as well as a solo album he did for
    Island, "Under Open Skies".
    
    						Brian

    
    John Cipollina and Gary Duncan ... 

    Yeah? John Cippolina and Gary Duncan? What about 'em?

He mentioned them.

    I forgot to mention Mick Ralphs...

      
    
      OK - Here's a HM player that's been around for years!
    
    
      Kim Simmonds (not the "go for a soda" one, but the Savoy Brown
    leader). A lot of you out there probably have some of the old Savoy
    albums like "Hellbound Train" and "Street Corner Talkin'". 
    No doubt that Kim Simmonds roots are in the blues although he has
    ventured into the rock arena on occasions. I actually saw Savoy Brown
    open up for the Deep Purple "Burn" tour and pretty much blow tham away.
    That version of SB featured three very talented guitar players
    promoteing the "Boogie Brothers" album. If you see this album in a
    cut-out bin, check it out. Lotta guitar work. 
      Anyway, Kim Simmonds is alive and well and living in Upstate New
    York. He must've invested some of his earnings from the peak years 
    because now he owns a winery! Because he lives in our neck of the
    woods, we get to see the latest and greatest Savoy Brown stuff (yes, a
    new release is coming soon) as well as the standards from the old 
    albums, and some blues standards. For example the last time I saw Kim
    Simmonds, last Thursday, they did: I'm Tired, Let it Rock, Wang Dang
    Doodle, Street Corner Talkin, and encored with Tell Mama. Kim ripped
    through a couple instrumentals that were real tasty. Overall he has his
    blues down solid and is an exceptional slide player.
      Equipment wise he used a Marshall JCM800 with an old 4 X12 (small
    logo). On the floor there were a couple Boss stomps and a Cry Baby wha.
    THe two guitars he used were a Zion Strat clone for most of the night
    and a white Gibson SG for his songs with a lot of slide work.
    
    							-B()()M-

    hey boomster, where'd you see Simmonds? Is he playing local small
    clubs, or is he doing a concert tour?  

     re: -.1
    
       He's doing small local clubs BEFORE taking the act on the road. It's
    great seeing this guy play in a environment like this. Kim has also
    done some non-Savoy things around here like "Kim Simmonds Blues
    Express" where it's almost all blues standards. As far as I know these
    type of engagements are limited to the Central New York area.
    			
    							_B()()M_

    
    Well, this is the "honorable mention" note, right? Cipollina and
    Duncan always seemed like the guitarist with two bodies and one mind,
    tossing phrases around so smoothly you had to look to see where it was.
    Odd, since one played an ES-175 and the other an SG. Gary Duncan's
    still around, John Cipollina died a a few years back...
    
    -eric

    re .80
    
    Well yes this is the Honorable mention note. But you see I never heard
    of Gary Duncan and I only know a little about Cippolina. I think he was
    in Quicksilver Messenger Service. That's why I asked what about 'em a
    few back. Its not that I'm taking issue with your nomination, I just
    really wanna know more

	Andy Gill - Gang of Four

	I've always really like Todd Rundgren's playing. Especially on
	peices like "The Icon"

    
    re .81
    
    Sorry... Gary Duncan and John Cipollina were the two guitarists of
    Quicksilver Messenger Service. At their height, Quicksliver was the
    tightest, cleanest, and rockin'est of the San Francisco band. While
    Brother was still trying to learn to play their instruments, and the
    Grateful Dead (at that time still the Warlocks) were trying to get out
    of being a jug band, Quicksilver -- so called because all the band
    members were Virgo's -- really tore things up. Four person band --
    bass, drums, two guitars. And both guitarists really seemed to share
    one musical mind, because they could not only take good solos, they
    could both take leads that really sounded as if there was only one
    person making the music. Not formula licks, but improvised together. 
    
    They were the last of the SF bands to get a record contract, and never
    were recorded properly. And after Dino Valenti got out of prison and
    rejoined, they were... ah, terrible comes to mind. (oh, OK, I like
    "Edward the Mad Shirt Grinder" off "Shady Grove", but I could still
    shoot Dino Valenti). 
    
    But the first two albums ("Quicksilver Messenger Service" - silver and
    black cover, and "Happy Trails") have some good numbers and *smokin'*
    guitar. Check "Gold and Silver" on the first, "Mona" on the second.
    There was also a soundtrack album called "Revolution", with good takes
    of "Codine" and "Babe, I'm gonna leave you". Rumor says there's a CD
    box re-issue around, but I haven't seen it yet. 
    
    And John Cipollina is one of the few players I've ever heard make good
    use of a Bigsby :-)   
    
    	-eric
    

    Three cheers to Boom for reminding me of Kim Simmonds, a fergotten
    legend fer sure.  I like the real early Savoy stuff (Blue Matter,
    Raw Sienna); real demented British blooze-rock.  Somewhere along
    the way, Lonesome Dave joined that band; now there's a real blue-
    collar, meat-and-potatoes (or is it jellied eels?) guitar player.
    
    My favorite is the album Looking In; by this time Savoy had been
    stripped down to Kim Simmonds, Lonesome Dave, and what was to become
    the original Foghat rhythm section.  Sort of proto-Foghat with
    better guitar playing.
    
    
    /rick_who_wishes_HE_were_a_close_personal_friend_of_Kim_like_Boom

    Re: .83
    
    The Quicksilver reissue is a double CD set on Rhino.  Word has it that
    disc one has all the pre-Dino stuff.  One review said you should give
    the second disc to your kid brother  8^)  8^)
    
    Nose around and you might find the 2-LP "Anthology" on Capitol in a
    used record store.  The first two albums are also out on budget CDs
    from Capitol.
    
    Cippolina also worked with a band called Copperhead, they did at least
    one LP for Columbia.  His last project was a band called the Dinosaurs.
    I think there's an RIP note on him in here somewhere.
    
    						Brian

    Re: Kim Simmonds 
    
    The Zion strat clone is a Radicaster.  They're excellent guitars, but
    expensive.
    
    Mike

    
     RE: .85
    
        I've heard the Copperhead album. It was actually some pretty
    interesting stuff, somewhat commercial pop but somewhat complex
    arrangements. Song names I remember: Spin Spin, Roller Derber Star.
    I also have a album by a group simply called "Man" that featured
    John Cippolina as a guest artist. He primarily used Gibson SG guitars
    with some modifications to make it look more artsy. And as mentioned,
    no Gibson Vibrolux trem, but the bid bad Bigsby. I also have a few 
    Quicksilver albums buried away, my favorite song by them- "Fresh Air".
    
      Re: .86
       The Zion guitar that Kim Simmonds used was white with a Tortex like
    pickguard. Actually it was very vintage looking (intentional I'm sure).
    When I saw him do the Blues Express thing last year he used a Les Paul
    and a Marshall 2 X 12 combo. 
       Kim has been in the business a long time, I would put him at around
    43 years old but he looks a lot younger, still has a lot of hair! I've
    talked with him on numerous occasions and he is very personable and 
    talks well of the old Savoy Brown as well as being proud of his new 
    originals.
    
    							-B()()M-

Steven Stills (on acoustic)

    
    I'll second Todd Rundgren.  He's a pretty versatile guy.
    
    
    guy

    The Honky Tonk Man.

	A regional(New England) honorable mention is Randy Roos from
Mistral,..Michael Gibbs and Orchestra Luna. In the 70's he was one of the most 
lyrical guitarist's I had heard in and around Boston,primarily playing jazz 
fusion,but I've have not heard or seen of him for quite sometime. He was from 
Lexington,Mass. 
          
							Rick

    re .89 & .90
    
    Dudes (and dudettes), gimme more than a name eh? What do you like about 
    'em. Anything in particular? Any tunes you'd care to recommend to the 
    uninformed? I know about Stevey Stills, but I have no idea who the 
    "Honky Tonk Man" is. Could be that makes me stupid, but how about a
    little brain food for ignorants like me. No need to write a book, just
    something more than throwing out a name.
    
    "sakman"

    Tony Joe White?
    
    Does a lot with Tina Turner

    Anybody ever catch up on Danny Toler? He was the guitar player for the
    later Allman Bros and worked with Greg on Greg's solo stuff. 
    
    Actually, if you gave me a blindfold test between Dan and Warren Hayes,
    the Allman Bros current top gun, I'm not sure I'd pass. I can't think of 
    any two guitarists so close in sound, style and technique. As I
    understand it, Warren comes in to the Allman Bros via Dickey Betts. I
    haven't heard anything from or about Dan since the Allman's reunion,
    but I'd be willing to bet there's some hurt there. 
    
    If you haven't heard "Not My Cross To Bear" from
    Greg's "I'm No Angel" album, you are missing something worth the price
    of the album alone (wihich features some real tasty guitar work
    throughout.) The tone that Dan gets makes me wonder why anyone would
    want signal processors and the like. I have my amp set to simulate the
    sound, but its only as close an approximation as a Fender "the Twin"
    and my Strat w/ humbuckers will allow. I read where Dan's sound resulted
    in his Marshall being reworked to have an output transformer the size
    of a sewing machine.  I think Warren's results from his Soldano.
    
    "sakman"

>    Tony Joe White?

    The same guy that did Poke Salad Annie back in the 60s? I thought
    his guitar playing was very cool on that track. Always wanted
    to hear more from this guy but never did. Tina Turner, huh? Well I'll
    be...

    
    
    	Yah...Dan's sound is something else...I saw Greg at the Orphium
    	a few years back...had seats front row center in the balcany....
    	Dan was set up center stage....talk about feeling the air move...
    
    	...Greg often refered to his rig as the "Bulldozer"
    
    Ray

    
    re: .92
    
    Todd Rundgren stuff that *I* would recommend:
    
    
    *"Crazy Lady Blue"  from Utopia's _Oops! Wrong Planet_
    
    *"Communion with the Sun" &
    *"Singring & the Glass Guitar" from Utopia's _Ra_
    
    *"Love of the Common Man" from Todd's solo album _Faithful_
        (not to mention the 12-string version from the Nearly Human video)
    
    *Just about anything from _Todd Rundgren's Utopia_ (which includes the
     aforementioned "The Ikon")
    
    *"Initiation" & "The Death of Rock and Roll" from Todd's solo album
        _Initiation_
    
    ...to name a few.....;-)
    
    guy

    I second the nomination of Mick Ralphs.
    
    On the technical scale this guy does not ascend very high.  He's
    not even very high on the "innovation" scale.
    
    But somewhere there is a scale that goes something like "what he
    contributes to the band" and this guy is way up on that scale.

    
    
    	re: Kim Simmons
    
    
    	Can you tell us what winery Kim Simmons owns?
    
    
    	tom
    

    re: -.1
    
      I really don't know, maybe I can find out. 
    
      BTW - Kim Simmonds did another Savoy Brown gig last night in Syracuse
    but I didn't go this time. Those weekday nights out kill me and I had
    a meeting at 8:30 a.m. today.
      They are getting ready for a tour to promote their new release real
    soon.
    							-B()()M-

    
    	Andy Latimer from Camel.....tasteful playing....

    
    	Did Andy Latimer play on the Moon Madness album?  That is one
    	of the few titles I can remember from the late '70's (right?).
    
    	good stuff.

    
    
    	Yep....I am actually working out a few of his leads from the album
    Snow Goose...very tasteful Mixo stuff....
    
    	J

    I would say Tommy Bolin is worthy of mention in this note as being a
    very versitile player with many bands, and is one of my favorites. 
    To name a few: Deep Purple, James Gang and Billy Cobham's/Spectrum...
    which is a very good album to get a feal of what Tommy could really do
    when given the room to stretch.
    
    I also blieve this was his last album session before he pasted away.
  
    Dave'
    

    
    Whoa now, is that Bolin on Stratus?  Fuzz tone and kicking ass.

    I haven't searched to see if this is a repeat, but I have three
    nameless honorable mentios for yous guys.  I heard the Outlaws "There
    Goes Another Love Song", and "Green Grass and High Tides" on the local
    Classic Rock stations' Southern Block today, and I remembered seeing
    those guys in April of '78 in Austin, Texas.   WOW! As with many bands,
    you never know the level of talent until you see these guys live!! 
    Talk about a nuclear AXE attack!  3 guitarists, 3 Les Pauls, and a WALL
    of sound!!  I was impressed, and I still know nothing about those guys.
    Anybody go the scoop...names, where they came from, where they went??
    
    Steve (curious)
    

    Rick Cua, the Outlaws' bassist, is now a fairly popular Christian
    solo rock act.  He also doubles as a studio bassist.  He's played bass 
    on the last 3 Phil Keaggy albums, the lastest Whitecross album, and has
    even helped out Amy Grant and Michael W. Smith.
    
    Mike

    Outlaws - now there's some music for ya (I'm havin trouble these days
    wonderin what or why it is with U2's success.) I think they're still
    makin the rounds tho not nearly as big in the past. I also don't think
    it's the same group. The leader back then was a guy named Huey
    Thomason (or something like that). The last album I heard from them
    (about 4 years ago) touted the "return" of Thomason. The album was 
    mostly crap as they sounded like they were trying to update their sound. 
    One song on the album stands out and gives me goosebumps. It's called 
    "Cold Harbor", A civil war song about a guy getting ready for battle. 
    Its a serious song, not a guitar slingers song, but the guitar work sets 
    it up beautifully.
    
    "sakman"  

The Outlaws as we know 'em (There Goes Another Love Song, Green Grass etc),
is way-long-gone...   The only guy who is left of the original band is
that Huey dood.  The guitarists all bailed.

Last time I saw The "Outlaws" was at the Mohawk out by Ft Devens.  It was 
way-lame.  A pity too - as I was a way-big fan.

    How about these two guys, one of which (maybe both) might fit in
    someones top 10 finger men list. I'm thinking about Mark Knopfler and
    Stanley Jordan. I'm thinking I can't name any other guitarist so
    different and identifiable as either of these two.
    
    I was listening to a Mark Knopfler interview for a bit last night.
    Seems like a genuinely nice guy. Anyway, they played along with the
    interview some of his earlier works. Sultans of Swing would rate as one
    of my most favorite songs of all time. I've been listening to it for damn
    near 15 years and it seems everytime I hear it I hear something else to
    admire. Yet for all his brilliance on that tune and several others,
    there are some works that I think are plain lousy - like "Walk of
    Life". Maybe it's cause the guitar is just a background instrument. But
    doesn't that song get alot of airplay like its some sort of something
    special that we should remember for all time? I punch the radio button
    as soon as I hear the first two organ notes.
    
    
    Then there's Stanley Jordan. This guy is something else. When I first
    heard him, I knew I had to get one of his albums. I did, I bought one
    that was at the time his most recent. It sucks. I was so disappointed.
    He did this rendition of "Stairway to Heaven" that was terrible because
    of the solo. The opening was pretty, given the way he plays. It lends
    itself naturally to that song. But when he turns on the fuzz tone (I
    really think it was a fuzz tone - no kidding) the song disintegrates
    and begins to grate on my nerves. Anyway, his style is unique although
    Brian Donovan once pointed out just because you can play that way
    (difficult) - why do it if you don't have to. Well, I guarantee you
    won't hear me trying to copy him. I'll leave that uniqueness to him.
    Why do it if I don't have to?
    
    "sakman" 

    
    
    I wanted to check out Stanley Jordan a couple years ago and got that
    same album (with Stairway to Heaven on it).  It does suck....
    
    Dave

    I bought it for $4 (CD) ... my butt still hurts.
    
    Jerry

    Good Lord, Stanley Jordan on TV? Gotta be past my bed time like with
    the Letterman show or something eh?

    I've seen Stanley Jordon on TV several times over the years.  I think
    he's incredible to watch, not terribly spectacular to listen to (while
    not watching).  It's amazing to think that he can do all that at the
    same time, but if you're not watching him do it, it just sounds like
    two or three kind of sloppy overdubs to me.
    
    Greg

    re .110
    
    	Yah sakman,. those two would be in my top ten list fer sure,..
    
    	Hmmm,.. sho else?
    
    	Larry Corryell
    	Tuck Andress
    	SRV (sorry Buck!)
    	George Benson
    	Al Dimeola
    	John McLaughlin
    	Jimi Hendrix
    	and dare i say it... Jerry Garcia (no apology Buck :-)
    
    						/Catastrophic
    

How abut Toy Caldwell of Marshall Tucker fame...  Super-tasty chops
on that ole Gibson ES man...

jc (Feeloin' nostalgic :)

    
    Greg,
    
     You hit it on the nose with your assessment of Stanley J.  If you 
    aren't watching him, it isn't that great listening.  He needs to get
    away from the plethora of notes that he plays and show a little more
    tastefulness.  I think he's worked out a number of scales with his 
    method of playing, and tends to use the same scales over and over,
    which is why after a couple of tunes, it's all the same to me. He's
    still amazing to watch however !
    
     I'd like to make an honorable mention of someone whom I don't think
    has ever been what one would consider a great, highly technical
    guitarist, but I always thought his playing was very creative.
    
     Robbie Krieger of the Doors.  At the time the Doors were popular, he
    forged a totally unique style of playing IMO.  Though he wasn't a 
    shredder, his solos always seemed appropriate and tasteful to me.
    I always liked his way with a slide ..very different ideas.  When I 
    hear folks compare the "shredders" of today with the players of 
    yesterday, I think the one thing that they overlook, is the fact that
    people like Jimmy Hendrix, the Doors, and most of the other bands 
    back in the 60's, forged their own sound.  There wasn't anyone who
    was playing like Hendrix for him to model himself after.  The bands
    of the era defined the music styles for the future, and gave future
    bands something to emulate.  Nowadays it's pretty easy to compare
    player A to player B since so many people are basically playing the 
    same type of stuff, in the 60's this wasn't the case. Nobody was doing
    the kind of stuff Hendrix was doing, so who could you compare him to ?
    
    Lv
    
    
     
    
    
    

    I'll give a big second to Robbie Krieger!  I always enjoyed his unique
    sound with The Doors.  He played tasteful understated parts that always 
    fit into the song rather then standing out on their own.
    
    Greg

    I agree about Krieger - very inventive.
    
    And I have to put in my own plug for Danny Gatton, who is also a
    candidate for the Versatility note.  I have his "Unfinished Business"
    album, and anyone who writes him off as "just a Telecaster guitarist"
    hasn't listened to this.  His "Homage to Charlie Christian" is just
    that, and "Cherokee" should be tiled "Homage to Les Paul".  He also
    solos on a Fender Lap Steel on "Lappin' It Up".  And of course, his
    Tele leads, particularly on "Moonlight Serenade", just rip my guts out.
    
    Hey, what's that mess on the floor?
    
    Dave

    Last year, I was out in San Francisco. While there, I happened to catch
    this guitar player in the Hyatt Regency lounge named Jeff Linsky. Jeff
    is one of these guys who I'd be embarrased to mention that I fool with
    guitar. And by comparison, I know a few chords and assorted things.
    This guy was absolutely unbelievable. He's not a rock and roller, and
    the night I saw him he just played a classical guitar.
    
    That isn't to say he played boring assed classical music either. He
    played jazz, all types, all of it upbeat and awe inspiring. Fingers on
    both of his hands were flying as he played the bass lines, rhythm, and
    melody together. I asked him about recording and he said he was expecting 
    to have a CD out for national distribution, but I've never seen it or heard
    about him since. I also asked him about how he came to play so well. As
    you might expect, he's a full timer, he's been playing all his life, and
    has never done anything else.
    
    If any of you tone bros are out there in SF, check this guy out. I
    understand he plays regulary at the Hotel. But beware, there's of course
    no admission, but this is an exclusive hotel so you should be prepared
    to dress up some and spend some bucks for drinks. And, if anyone hears
    of/about Jeff, please let me know. 
    
    "sakman"

  Hey, what do you mean, "boring assed classical music". Some of us happen
    to play and like "boring assed classical music".  8^)
    
    Bob
    

    re .122
    
    Yo Bobby Dooode!
    
    Sorry duke. But then again just because something's "boring assed"
    doesn't make it bad eh? I wish I could play so boringly as any
    classical guitar player I've ever heard (except the beginners)
    
    "sakman"

    Heard another dude I thought I'd mention on the way to work this am.
    How about this guy who does the guitar work for Brian Adams. He's not
    a smoker, machine gunning out miliions of notes - at least not what 
    I've heard.  He's distinctive and tasteful.
    
    And the I love the sound he gets. I've never seen BA live, but my guess
    is that the guitar player uses a Strat with a Marshall. I'm sure his
    Strat has some sort of hi performance pickups though. 
    
    
    "sakman"

>    How about this guy who does the guitar work for Brian Adams. He's not
>    a smoker, machine gunning out miliions of notes - at least not what 
>    I've heard.  He's distinctive and tasteful.

See .61 and .62 of this note!

alan

    re-1
    	On the BA video, he looks like he is playing a Gretsch..
    
    Lowell
    

        I don't have much of a memory for names except to say 'so and so who
        played in such and such band' but I wanted to add a local Boston 
        guitar player that I saw Friday night. His name is Bruce Bartlett
        and he's in Tiger Okoshi's band, Tiger's Baku. I think he leads his
        own trio also in and around Cambridge.  Incredible guitar player.
        Great rhythm and lead work. I think he's on the 2 CD's that Tiger's
        Baku has out.

        Ray Hayes
    

    
    
        I heard Tigers Baku was playing the Reggatta Bar, I can't believe
        I missed it!!!!!!!
    
                                  AGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
                                                                  MC

    How about Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top. I like this guy's general attitude.
    He's another one of these guys that may not have monsterous chops, but
    definitely has style. And talk about low tech. Fercrissakes, I don't
    know what he uses for equipment but damn if it don't sound like he's got
    a pignose or something. He's about the honkiest dude in the business.
    
    Love his lyrics too with such topics as Tube Steak Boogie, She Want a
    Pearly Necklace, Legs, ...they got a lotta niiiice girls...looking for a
    little tush...
    
    Now that's entertainment!
    
    "sakman"

    When I hear Billy Gibbons, I think of another cool player, Brian
    Robertson (ex-Thin Lizzy), who to me, sounds like BG only faster.

    Here's two music makers who's music I get to hear when my wife is in the
    car...not exactly my cup-O-tea, but I occassionally here some pretty
    impressive guitar work outa their bands....
    
    Huey Lewis, and Richard Marx...both have two axe players (I think), one
    of which is pretty tasty and clean....
    
    Steve

    Yeah Steve - Huey Lewis's guitar player is Cris Hayes. Actually, if
    you go back around the base note of this topic you'll find that he was
    one of the one's that first brought this topic to my mind.
    
    Now as for Richard Marx - Don't know anything 'bout the guitax man. I
    do know Richard plays, but I think about as much as Grag Allman or Mick
    Jagger. Richard is primarily a keyboard player. I heard him say once in
    an interview with Bryant Gumbel that his first love is writing music
    and performing it comes second. (I've heard Brian Adams say pretty much
    the same thing.) Actually, I like Richard Marx. I think there's more to
    his success than his good looks.
    
    "sakman"

    Thanks, Sak....
    
    Richard Marx has two guitarists...one of them plays a strat and was an
    actor in the old series about country life in old Virginia..."The
    Waltons"; the other is a shorter curly headed guy who absolutely wailed
    in Richard's version of "Layla"...
    
    any names, anyone?
    
    Steve

    	Have you guys heard any of Kim Mitchel's work. You gotta check it
    out. He's not a shredder but he's got a unique style and can whip it
    out where its required. Seems like he really isn't interested in
    breaking in the US or maybe the record co. execs just couldn't find a
    square hole to peg him in. Style in from country-ish to heavier rock.
    
    	FJE
    

    Honorable mention for the player who did the lead in "On the Cover of
    the Rolling Stone"......"oh, dat's beautiful...."
    
    8^)
    
    Steve

Yep - definately Dr. Hook.  That lead is AMAZING !!

:)

    Kim Mitchell has one song that is emblazoned in my memory:
    
    	"Might as Well Go for a Soda"
    
    I don't know what it is about that tune, but I *LOVE* it.
    
    He gets a REAL cool Strat sound in the descending hook.
    
    I don't know ANYTHING else about him, but that song, and the video
    made a big impression on me.

	Growing up in Buffalo NY gave me a heap of Kim Mitchell in my
	teens listening to the Toronto stations. Can't even find any
	of his stuff in New Hampshire.

    I can't find a Kim Mitchell record in New Hampshuh, but, as I said,
    Rockit Records in Nashua has a book of his stuff in tablature.

    I loved "Go for Soda" too.  Wasn't Kim Mitchel in some one-hit band
    several years ago?  I remember hearing a radio interview with him
    while "Go for Soda" was hot when he was playing in Detroit, I seem
    to remember him talking about being in a band...
    
    Jim

    How 'bout Chicago's guitarists...past and present?
    
    * Terry Kath had a unique (kinda muddy and sloppy, but it was his)
      style and tone...I saw him live twice...I liked his jeans and
      football jersey look; and he was neat onstage...he LOVED his music!
    
    * I saw thier current axeman last summer at King's Dominion....he's
      clean, fast, accurate, and he wails...but he sounds like alot of
      other guys in today's market (to me, anyway)
    
    Steve

    re: Terry Kath
    
    I always loved the solo to "25 or 6 to 4."
    
    Terry was a good rhythm player, and provided and edge to Chicago
    that (IMHO) was very needed.  
    
    Jim

    RE: T Kath
    
    I always like the background riffs in the beginning of
    "Questions 67 and 68".....he was unique.
    
    Steve
    
    

    RE: Kim Mitchel
    
    	He may be one hit wonder south of the border, but up here he's an
    Institution. He was in a band (or rather he was the band) Max Webster
    and has since gone solo with these albums:
    	
    		        Miss Demeanor (EP)
    			Akimbo Alogo
                        Rockland
    			I am a Wild Party (live)
    			Aural Fixations   (Just Released in still in my car
    					   CD player)
    
    	With Max Webster:
    			Max Webster 
                        High Class in Borrowed Shoes
    			Mutiny up my Sleave
               	        A Million Vacations
    
    	These are all I can think of off hand there are 3 or 4 more and I
    was able to find them in the State but in the bargin bins. Probably
    have to order the import. I will post cat numbers if someboby wants (is
    it allowed??) or send to you offline if I'm not. BTW Go For A Soda is
    only one  of the great tunes he's written...there's lots more.
    
    FJE

    re: Terry Kath
    
    I saw Chicago back around '81-'82 timeframe and he burned!  Great show,
    George Benson was also on the bill!
    
    Greg

    RE: -1
    
    When did the "accident" happen that caused Terry's death?  I can't
    remember what year it was.......lots of rumors about a party and a
    playful game of Russian Roulette...any details, anyone?
    
    Steve

    If I remeber right, it would have been late '84 (maybe early '85).
    I think he collected guns, and was showing off a pistol.  The story
    I heard was that he was a bit loaded, and jokingly held the pistol
    to his head and pulled the trigger.  Unfortunately, the gun was
    loaded.
    
    Jim

    Re: .147
    
    Definitely before 1980...by 85 they were on their second or third
    guitarist (anyone out there remember Donnie Dacus?).
    
    						Brian

    I was a big Terry Kath fan (an early influence on the Buckmeister!).
    The shooting/Russian Roulette accident happened in 1978.
    

    RE: -1 "ask Brian"... about Terry Kath and Chicago....
    
    
    I thought so; I remember the shock and disappointment at the news and I
    *thought* it was in the '75 to '77 timeframe....
    
    I had no idea that the current guy was not their second axe man!
    
    Steve

    
    Re:  Terry Kath
    
         Terry died in 1978...he was joking around with the gun,
         stuck it to his head, and accidentally killed himself.
    
         There's a big "but" here, though...
    
         He had been very depressed for a long time and his weight
         gain had been phenomenal in the months before he died...something
         like a hundred pounds.
    
         One of his band members recalled (in an article) that if Terry
         had been in his right mind, he would not have even been
         fooling around with the gun.
    
         I honestly believe Terry channeled Chicago's fire onstage and off,
         and that his death marked the beginning of their movement into
         Muzak.
    
         Brian
    
         PS.  I remember reading that Terry recorded the Chicago Transit
              Authority album with a Stratocaster...whose neck was being
              held on by an automobile radiator hose clamp.
    
    

    RE: Terry Kath,
    
    I LOVED his voice!
    
    Steve

    Guess that wasn't him I saw with them then, I thought it was.  Whoever
    was playing with them then was very good...
    
    Greg

    
    	i saw donnie dacus play with steve stills in new jersey in perhaps
    the worst concert i ever saw!  donnie plays well, but stills really
    sucked big time - glag i got in free for that one.
    
    	bob

    Somewhere in here is mention of Richard Marx's axe-men.  I saw the band
    last night at King's Dominion (outdoor concert).  I recognized one of
    the guitarists from Richard Marx videos (the short curly headed guy),
    but the second guitarist was new.  I assume the former actor who played
    Jason on "The Waltons" TV series is no longer in the group.  The band
    was extrememly tight, Richard's vocal prowess was SO present, and the
    mixing was done right!  The "short curly headed" guitarist is very
    talented and has a collection of strats and les pauls that'll curl yer
    hair!  The newer guitarist is also very talented, there was obviously
    alot of rehearsal with his peer as their two part guitar-harmonies were
    dead on.  He did the slide work on a Les Paul Junior....cool! They came
    back for an encore with "Don't Mean Nuthin'" and they jammed out the end
    ....it was a guitar/sax school!  Gotta make an honorable mention for
    these guys...good band, good show.
    
    IMHO,
    
    Stevo

    Forget the concert...did you ride the GRIZZLY?!?
    

    We have season passes, and live only 42 minutes from the park......the
    Grizzly is rapidly becoming a yawner as the quest for real FEAR grows
    more challenging.......now, the new water park has a freakin' slide of
    doom that gets me heart thumpin'!  This sucker has gotta be 60+ degrees
    and feels like a vertical plummet! 
    
    Steve (the Grizzly IS grizzly, indeed!)

    Well, if you live that close, you must have rode the new Drachen Fire
    over at Busch Gardens Williamsburg by now.  Whaddaya think?

    Buck,
    
    with the investment we made in season's passes to KD, we haven't hit
    Busch this year.....my daughter has, however, and she says the Drachen
    Fire tops the list in fear factor!  I can't wait!
    
    Steve (need new conference!)
    

    How about Billy Gibbons of ZZ Topp. This guy plays some real honky guitar. 
    The thing I like about him is that although he seems to have a signature,
    he never seems to play the same thing, ie. each solo seems unique.
    And the dude definitely has a great sense of humor. Most 
    of ZZ Topp's stuff is great parody. 
    
    I saw 'em once back in the seventies. Too bad at the time I was
    sh!thead about that kind of thing. Since they weren't part of the
    musical elite like Return to Forever, Santana, et al, I didn't
    appreciate 'em at all.
    
    And how about that honky sound Billy gets? Guaranteed his studio equipment
    is something real fancy (NOT) like a Pignose or something.
    I'd imagine he has a bigtime sound system for his stage shows. But on
    record, some of it anyway is like a miked single 6 or 8 inch speaker.
    When I saw them, he was playing a LP thru an Orange. 
    
    "sakman"  
    
    

>    How about Billy Gibbons of ZZ Topp. This guy plays some real honky guitar. 
>    The thing I like about him is that although he seems to have a signature,
>    he never seems to play the same thing, ie. each solo seems unique.
    
    Sakman,
    
    Billy Gibbons is one of my all-time favorites, but we're covering a
    bunch of ZZTOP tunes and I'm beginning to learn that this guy repeats
    himself a lot.
    
    He uses the same turn-around in:
    
    	o "Jesus Just Left Chicago"
    	o "Tush"
    	o another big hit although I can't remember which right now
    
    He also uses an awful lot of 9th intervals in his solos.  It's almost
    like the hallmark of a Gibbons solo.
    
    However, I'm not putting him down for doing that.  The bottom line is
    that "I like it".

    What do you mean by 9th intervals?
    

	a 9th is an octave and a 2nd.

	eg. C - D, G - A, F - G, etc.