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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2327.0. "Replacing rusty hardware" by FSOA::BDONOVAN () Wed Sep 18 1991 13:48

    I purchased a Gibson SG last year,  It is a limited
    issue job with EMGs and black hardware..it looks pretty
    sharp.
    
    However, I was surprised to notice that all of the mounting 
    screws, both for the pickups, and the pickguard, are rusty...
    and the guitar isn't a year old yet.  
    
    Has this happened to anyone else?  Do you think it's because
    I keep it outside?  (only kidding)
    
    Can anyone recommend a place to buy black machine screws?
    
    Any comments would be welcome.
    
    Brian
    
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2327.1CAVLRY::BUCKACE Regional RepWed Sep 18 1991 13:552
    This happens to the black hardware on Ibanez guitars.  It can be rubbed
    back to normal...I guess it's just normal oxidation...
2327.2CURSE YOU GREVE! :^PHAMER::KRONSONIC-REDUCERWed Sep 18 1991 14:374
     yeah it happens to all Of 'em......I pulled mine out and
    sprayed them w/ polyurethane and it stopped happening.
    -KrOnMeIsTeR
    
2327.3GOES11::G_HOUSEHas anybody seen the bridge?Wed Sep 18 1991 15:085
    It's probably related to the climate there in the NE United States,
    I've never had that problem on any of my guitars here in Colorado.  But
    it's very dry here.
    
    Greg
2327.4Gree Vee King's Rust Cure! Nyuk, Nyuk!DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEGreee Veee KingWed Sep 18 1991 17:3712
    
    	The curse of Kron, again.. this is becoming more and more like that
    Madagascar incident... more and more... hmmm.. in that instance I used
    Double-U-D-Fawty to protect the parts from rust, successfully!  Has
    anyone else thwarted KRON's curse using this method...
    
    	What's this: "I took mine out and sprayed it with Polyurethane"? 
    Isn't that dangerous??
    
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA (yes, Igor, Yes, the brain of a chicken,hurry!)
    
    Dr. Grave...
2327.5Quality case causes screw to rust?FSOA::BDONOVANWed Sep 18 1991 18:5320
    
    
    Yeah, and sometimes it's so nice out, I just want to leave it
    out.
    
    You guys will get a kick out of this:  I mentioned my rusty screws
    to a music store employee.  He asked if I had the "nice" Gibson
    case and I said that I did.
    
    He nodded and said that this was a problem with those cases. Quoth
    he, "Yeah, those Gibson cases are practically air-tight and they
    will trap and hold humidity.  From time to time, open the case
    and let it air out before closing it again."
    
    I should have asked him, "Up to how many atmospheres will this case
    be effective?"
    
    Brian, prop.
    
    New England Hermetically-Sealed Guitar Cases, Inc.
2327.6Wanna buy some silica gel?MANTHN::EDDHay mow! Hay mow!Wed Sep 18 1991 19:254
    I've had my Gibson bass stored in it's Gibson case for nigh on 20
    years now. No rust.
    
    Edd
2327.7questionsEZ2GET::STEWARTBalanced on the biggest waveWed Sep 18 1991 19:2615
    
    Or put some of those silica gel thingies in your case.  We don't have
    that problem here is So CA - in fact, about the only place drier than
    here is that place in Arizona where they park the moth-balled
    warbirds.
    
    My Les Paul had some grungy stuff on the hardware, too.  After I
    scrubbed that stuff off I put a thin coat of filter oil (for motorcycle
    air cleaners, the only light weight oil I had in quantity) on the
    pieces and wiped them down until they no longer felt totally lubed. 
    Haven't seen any recurrance of the problem, yet.
    
    Question - does silica gel's thirst ever get satisfied?  What happens
    to the moisture it absorbs?
    
2327.8Humasorb!GOES11::G_HOUSEHas anybody seen the bridge?Wed Sep 18 1991 21:3117
    re: .-1
    
    The light coating of oil seems like a good idea.  Works for tools, I
    don't see why it wouldn't work for guitar hardware.
    
>    Question - does silica gel's thirst ever get satisfied?  What happens
>    to the moisture it absorbs?
    
    Yes, it does get saturated at a certain point.  You can heat the stuff
    up like in an oven and drive the moisture back out of it and reuse it. 
    My parents used to use it for drying flowers.  It just absorbs the
    mosture.  
    
    Grab a bag or two the next time you get computer equipment, they always
    seem to include liberal numbers of them in just about everything.
    
    Greg                                                             
2327.9Big Crystals Free!!KURMA::JHYNDMANBig JimThu Sep 19 1991 21:276
    SILICA GEL!! That's what that stuff is in the shipping crates!!!
    A workmate here has been taking those bags of crystal home,crushing it
    up,and snorting it,thinking we had some very good friends stateside.
    	I was wondering why he drinks three gallons of soda each tea
    break.........8-)
    
2327.10silica gel's greatSMURF::BENNETTAsk me about Guitar LessonsFri Sep 20 1991 16:245
	You can do all sorts of things with silica gel. Just make sure
	you DO NOT EAT it.

	
2327.11Not in my case...GANTRY::ALLBERYJimMon Sep 23 1991 12:2310
    
    I would be a little concerned about silica gel absorbing too much
    moisture and drying out the instrument.  I certainly wouldn't put
    any in the case of an acoustic instrument.  In fact, there are
    guitar humidifiers specifically designed to increase the humidity
    inside the guitar case.  Silica gel might be OK for solid body 
    electrics, though.  It seems to me, however, that it might increase 
    the likelyhood of cracking in an ebony fretboard.
    
    Jim
2327.12Rusted pickup pole pieces in New England!NOKNOK::ABATELLIIn Pipeline HeavenFri Aug 02 1996 17:0711
    I have a G&L ASAT and the pickup pole pieces started rusting on me...
    BIG TIME! The bridge looks slightly oxidized and a few pickguard
    screws have also started rusting! This New England weather is killing
    this guitar. Maybe clear nail polish, or clear laquer on the pole
    pieces, but I don't want to hit the covers with laquer...  do the
    pickup covers come off? Hmmmmm...  maybe I'll try that this weekend.
    
    Any suggestions besides moving to a dryer climate. Hey, I heard that
    parts of Arizona had 60% humidity yesterday! 
    
    	Fred
2327.13KDX200::COOPERDO something Mister Peabody!Sat Aug 03 1996 00:182
    Navel jelly?  A little touch with the scotchbrite?
    
2327.14NEWVAX::LAURENTHal Laurent @ COPMon Aug 05 1996 11:4113
re: .13

>    Navel jelly?  

I wouldn't recommend naval jelly (I assume you didn't really mean "navel"
jelly :-).

> A little touch with the scotchbrite?
    
Scotchbrite would be good for removing the rust.  But make sure you don't
use steel wool.  Steel wool and magnets don't play well together.

-Hal
2327.15Chrome don't getcha home!SSDEVO::LAMBERTWe ':-)' for the humor impairedMon Aug 05 1996 18:2410
   re: Scotchbrite

   There are two types, or levels of abrasiveness.  The standard green cloths
   are the courser of the two, and will scratch chromed metal.  The white 
   Scotchbrite cloths are the milder/gentler/smoother of the two, and can be
   used without worry on chrome.

   -- Sam (Harley Davidson owner, and therefore well experienced in keeping 
   	   chrome shiney :-))

2327.16KDX200::COOPERDO something Mister Peabody!Mon Aug 05 1996 18:264
    Seems like the title shouldn't be used in the same note containing
    "Harley".  :-)
    
    (Dough!  Sorry!!   ;-)