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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

2126.0. "Neck Finish Question" by SMURF::BENNETT (I'd rather be flailing) Wed Feb 27 1991 14:36

	Does anybody have any experience reducing the glossyness of
	a varnished finish on a maple neck?

		-- sick of getting stuck
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2126.1DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDvictim of unix...Wed Feb 27 1991 14:483
I used to use talc powder to reduce the sticking...

dbii
2126.2Sticky neck.....SWAPIT::LORWed Feb 27 1991 17:0310
    Try finishing steel wool or 600 sandpaper.  If you use the paper
    do a wet sand.   Pritz the neck with water and rub the paper of the
    neck and cut as much finish as desired.  Then clean the sucker up
    and presto....it should work.  You have a satin-smooth finish.
    
    Otherwise ....if you don't want to cut the finish.  Clean the the
    neck often...could use OZ polish or mild soap water solution.
    
    
    Rick
2126.3DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEGreee Veee KingWed Feb 27 1991 20:054
    
    
    
    nother vote for 0000 steel wool
2126.4it rooolzCAVLRY::BUCKI feel a MEAN STREAK coming on...Wed Feb 27 1991 20:101
    yet another vote for 0000!
2126.5SMURF::LAMBERTFender BenderWed Feb 27 1991 20:485
re: .0

	See?  I told ya...  :-)

	-- Sam
2126.6Wet sand your chevy dude...GSRC::COOPERMajor MIDI Rack Puke (tm)Thu Feb 28 1991 03:215
    Wet sanding ??
    
    Yike !!  I'd think this be suicide !!
    
    ;)
2126.7Great!SMURF::BENNETTI'd rather be flailingThu Feb 28 1991 13:116
	I got plenty of 0000 wool, it cleans rosewood real nice. Now how
	many of you have actually undertaken this operation and were
	pleased with the results?

	
2126.8Wet sand or steel woolLEDS::BURATIThu Feb 28 1991 16:004
I've done both. Wet sanding works great. Just don't go overboard with
the amount of water you're using. Steel Wool's fine, too. But I wouldn't use
it if the neck is still on the guitar. (of course on some guitars that's not
an option.)
2126.9SPACC::COOPERMajor MIDI Rack Puke (tm)Thu Feb 28 1991 17:395
    I use steel wool on my Ibanez weekly.
    
    I even thought of using 800 or even 600 grit...  :)
    
    jc (Who hates oily necks)
2126.10Yah Buddy!DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEGreee Veee KingThu Feb 28 1991 20:0613
    
    
    
    
    	I'm losin' it... you'd actually put water on your guitar!!  Jeeze,
    what's left of my mind is blown!
    
    	Bennett unit... I've used the wool on rosewood necks but I usually
    follow it with some uncooked linseed.
    
    Steve
    
    	Get out ya belt sanders and a bucket o' water and go fer it! [;^)
2126.11Let's qualify a few things before you get the wrong ideaLEDS::BURATIThu Feb 28 1991 20:4418
Wet sanding is the best way to rub out orange peel. I bought an old ('54)
Telecaster a while ago, the neck of which somebody had done a bad overspray
job on the back on. (the (well-worn) fretboard had not been sprayed) So to
smooth out the lacquer on the BACK of the neck I gently wet sanded with 600
grit 3M wet-or-dry paper, using only a few drops of water at a time. I
would NEVER wet sand BARE WOOD. But it can't be beat for rubbing down a
finish before polishing. I left the finish unpolished, sort-of-a satin
luster. It feels smooth, none of the "sticking" problems of a high gloss.

Again, you don't (in my book anyway) wet sand bare wood. I was under the
impression that the original query was in regard to a finished maple 
neck.

The finish on the back of '65 Strat's neck is pretty much gone so it
feels pretty good just the way it is.

BTW, I never do anything to my fretboards except oil them occasionally.
2126.12Ayuh...SMURF::BENNETTI'd rather be flailingFri Mar 01 1991 13:037
	Thanks, guys. Another triumph for the Guitar Notes School of
	Guitar Repair. I gently cut down the finish with the old steel
	wool and it feels almost as good as the stock finish on my
	strat. Took me about an hour.

	Now maybe I should strip the body and refinish with fleckstone....
2126.13DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEGreee Veee KingFri Mar 01 1991 19:285
    
    
    
    
    	Yeah, and wet sand it!!!  [;^)
2126.14If you don't know what you're talking about...LEDS::BURATIFri Mar 01 1991 19:5216
I think anyone whose refinished anything with nitrocellulose lacquer
can tell you that nothing works better that wet-sanding. *NOTHING*!

What do think it's going to do, anyway? I ansume anyone trying
to picture this process in their head would envision the instrument 
*WITH ITS HARDWARE REMOVED*. RIGHT?

I refinished my '65 strat with nitrocellulose lacquer from an AEROSOL CAN
and then wet sanded the orange peel out and rubbed and polished it
to a beautiful luster. And the entire process took about 4 hours! Steel
wool doesn't work nearly as well.

Maybe you missed the point, Steve. We aren't talking about bare wood.
But, hey, I can only speek from my own experience and advise folks
accordingly.
2126.15DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEGreee Veee KingFri Mar 01 1991 21:434
    
    
    
    	OOOps, sorry, dude, I should have put more smiley faces, huh?